prince_jammyssMonk: ok now be careful because any changes will affect those partitions00:00
prince_jammyssMonk: let's look around first and see what happened00:00
sMonkyup, I just tried to use dolphin on my root folder, and it says permission denied00:00
sMonkbut I can get my home folder00:00
crashedAnyone know how to fix TV Time?00:01
prince_jammyssMonk: ls -ld /mnt/workspace/dev/vboxdrv00:01
sMonkNo such file or directory00:03
prince_jammyssMonk: ok i think what has to be done is to chroot into that partition00:03
sMonkmy home folder has a .Virtualbox folder.. no help?00:04
sMonkbut Dolphin still says that Access is denied to my /root folder00:04
prince_jammyssMonk: close dolphin00:05
stdin/dev is a virtual filesystem created by the kernel, it won't have anything (useful) unless it's on the real root fs00:05
prince_jammysstdin:: is this correct now? mount -t proc none /mnt/workspace/proc00:05
daSKreechprince_jammys: /dev doesn't really exist00:06
stdinthat would work yeah, also "mount -t proc proc /whatecer"00:06
sMonkstdin I have a pastbin of the problem he's helping me with, do you want to see it?00:06
prince_jammysstdin: followed by mount -o bind /dev /mnt/workspace/dev00:06
daSKreechprince_jammys: /proc doesn't really exist either :)00:06
prince_jammysdaSKreech: right, so we chroot into his / partition00:07
stdinsMonk: yeah00:07
stdinbinding or mounting a new proc doesn't matter, same effect there00:07
prince_jammyssMonk: mount -t proc none /mnt/workspace/proc00:07
stdinsMonk: how long ago did you install virtualbox?00:08
prince_jammyssMonk: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/workspace/dev00:08
prince_jammyssMonk: chroot /mnt/workspace  /bin/bash00:08
karl_anyone know which package is libsdl?00:09
prince_jammyssMonk: export PS1="(chroot) $PS1"00:09
daSKreechsMonk: might want answer stdin  :)00:09
crashedMan, this TV tuner is making me so frustrated.00:09
daSKreechkarl_: I would assume libsdl00:09
stdin!find libsdl*.so00:10
ubotuFound: libsdl-sound1.2, libsdl-sound1.2-dev00:10
sMonkdaSKreech: what?00:10
prince_jammyssMonk: ok now you should be chrooted00:10
prince_jammyssMonk: ls -ld /dev/vboxdrv00:11
sMonkno such file or directory00:11
stdin/dev/vboxdrv won't be there unless the virtualbox driver is loaded00:11
prince_jammysstdin: do you have a clue what happened there?00:12
sMonklol, yeah, can you tell me nicely how I messed up00:12
stdinnot really, but a bit of exploring seems to be in order00:12
stdinwhat's the permissions of /sbin/klogd ?00:12
prince_jammysstdin: he has a separate home partition00:12
stdin(ls -l /sbin/klogd)00:13
sMonkit's      -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22948 2007-09-17 16:54 /sbin/klogd00:13
prince_jammysstdin: it all probably began because his user is probably not a member of the group vboxsomethingortheother00:13
MandensMonk: What are the permission of /tmp?00:14
prince_jammysmaybe probably00:14
stdinprince_jammys: that doesn't explain "start-stop-daemon : unable to start /sbin/klogd: permission denied"00:14
prince_jammysstdin: no it doesnt00:14
sMonkpermissions of /tmp   drwxrwxrwt00:15
bobesponjaafter using airsnort, my wifi card stopped working, it is not detected anymore :/ any idea how to fix this?00:15
prince_jammyssMonk: keep pasting the owners on everything00:15
Mandenpermissions of / ?00:15
prince_jammyssMonk: paste the whole line00:15
sMonkhold on.. I'll give you a pastbin of the whole root00:15
MandenIsn't airsnort to decrypt wireless network encryption?00:16
crashedhow do you use insmod?00:16
crashedinsmod card=200:16
crashedThrows out errors.00:16
bobesponjaManden: yes it is00:16
bobesponjaManden: I'm not using airsnort anymore, but my wifi card doesn't work anymore now, it doesn't even detect other wireless networks00:18
MandenIt probably overwrites the old drivers.00:18
bobesponjaManden: I see, any idea what I could do to get it back? :)00:19
sMonkprince_jammys: did you get the pastbin?00:19
MandensMonk: the permissions there look alright00:19
crashedEek, nearly got this working.,00:19
prince_jammyssMonk: yeah i'm looking at it00:19
crashedcrashed@crashed-pc:~$ sudo rmmod saa7134_alsa && sudo rmmod saa7134 && sudo modprobe saa713400:20
crashedERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use00:20
Mandenbobesponja: use your distrobutions package manager to reinstall wireless drivers00:20
sMonkbtw, thanks stdin, prince & Manden00:20
crashedIt's in use, how to I unload that module?00:20
stdinsMonk: try "/etc/init.d/klogd start" see if it throws some error00:20
daSKreechstdin: I missed it is he chrooted?00:21
bobesponjaManden: I have "Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG", do you know what's the driver for that? isn't it included in the kernel alreaedy?00:22
crashedcrashed@crashed-pc:~$ sudo rmmod saa7134_alsa00:23
crashedERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use00:23
crashedAnyone, how do I stop that module?00:23
sMonklinux needs a "restore" setting for users like me00:23
Mandenbobesponja: They're usually modules.  What distrobution are you using?  On SuSE a search for "wireless" in YaST finds the rigth driver.00:23
bobesponjaManden: I'm on kubuntu00:24
prince_jammyspermission denied, and you're root00:24
Mandenprince_jammys: I don't think the issue is directly with klogd.  Permissions must be messed up somewhere else and it waterfalling to klogd00:25
prince_jammyssMonk: brb, pasta is overcooking00:25
sMonklol, np00:26
Mandenbobesponja: You can try searching for "wireless" in whatever package manager Ubuntu uses.  It might be easier to Google, proset ubuntu drivers00:26
coreymon77huh? wifi problems?00:26
coreymon77bobesponja: which card?00:26
coreymon77bobesponja: and whats the matter00:26
bobesponjacoreymon77: : I have "Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG"00:26
MandensMonk: did they already look at the permissions on your home directory?00:26
bobesponjathe matter is that network card doesn't work at all00:27
coreymon77bobesponja: let me guess, mac?00:27
sMonkno, I'll paste them00:27
bobesponjacoreymon77: intel inspiron 640000:27
bobesponjacoreymon77: it used to work great, but after using airsnort for a while, it just stopped working, nno idea if it's related00:28
sMonkpermissions of /home/dale is drwxrwxrwx00:28
coreymon77bobesponja: gutsy?00:28
sMonkdo you need the files in the home folder?00:28
bobesponjacoreymon77: yes00:28
MandensMonk: Did you run chmod 777 -R /home ?00:29
coreymon77bobesponja: what driver were you using before?00:29
MandensMonk: If so, then I know the permission.  As a note, that was not a good thing to do, but it doesn't break anything right now.00:29
bobesponjacoreymon77: no idea, the one that comes with kubuntu, it was automatically detected like all intel wifi card00:29
sMonk<-- hangs head in shame00:31
coreymon77bobesponja: give this a try, apt-cache search iwlwifi00:31
MandenIt's fixable00:31
daSKreechsMonk: My friend did a chown -R smonk /00:32
coreymon77bobesponja: that give you anything?00:32
daSKreechreally really messed up his system00:32
sMonk<-- suddenly not feeling so bad00:32
bobesponjacoreymon77: nothing00:32
MandenMaybe you could delete the contents of the /tmp directory00:32
sMonknothing in it00:33
Mandenok, well that won't work then00:33
daSKreechdelete the nothing!!00:33
MandenOn this post you sent to me, the guy did a chmod 755 / , and he said it fixed it.  However, it seems like a bad idea, and your permissions were alright on /00:34
bobesponjacoreymon77: there is libiw2900:34
coreymon77!info iwlwifi00:34
ubotuPackage iwlwifi does not exist in gutsy00:34
sMonksMonk performs  rm nothing in /tmp00:34
coreymon77!find iwlwifi00:34
ubotuPackage/file iwlwifi does not exist in gutsy00:34
bobesponja!info libiw2800:34
ubotuPackage libiw28 does not exist in gutsy00:34
coreymon77not good00:34
coreymon77its not that bad00:35
prince_jammyssMonk: hey00:35
coreymon77we just need to find out if the new driver exists on your system00:35
sMonkI'm here00:35
prince_jammyssMonk: you haven't been doing anything radical? :)00:35
prince_jammyssMonk: just glanced at the screens and saw some -Rs and rms00:35
sMonkno, nothing as of late00:36
coreymon77!info firmware-iwlwifi00:36
ubotuPackage firmware-iwlwifi does not exist in gutsy00:36
sMonkthe only thing I have been doing is google"ing" my mistake, and sifting through lots of german and italian pages... still the only page that looks promising is the first one I found00:37
coreymon77well, there is a new driver00:37
coreymon77im not sure if its part of the system00:37
coreymon77!find firmware-iwlwifi00:38
ubotuPackage/file firmware-iwlwifi does not exist in gutsy00:38
tekstacyDo iPods work well w/ k and amarok?00:39
karl_tekstacy: yes00:39
prince_jammyssMonk: yeah googling is good here00:39
coreymon77bobesponja: i dont want to mess it up even more since im not sure if you have the driver preloaded, so heres the ubuntu wiki page ive been using as refference00:40
tekstacyno need for that stupid itunes?00:40
sMonkthis is still the only decent site I found   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629613&page=200:40
sMonkon page 1 this person seems to have the same problem as me.00:40
coreymonbobesponja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/iwlwifi_Intel_3945_4965/gutsy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28AND%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%2900:41
bobesponjak thanks00:41
MandenYeah, but his sollution doesn't seem to work for you.00:41
sMonkwont I have to do a chmod 755 on my home dir?00:41
sMonkconsidering I oopsed and did a 777 on it00:41
MandenYou already did a 777 of it, which is more permissive than 75500:42
Mandenif 755 worked, then so should 77700:42
sMonkyeah.. but you said I'll have to get it "back" later00:42
sMonkor is that something else?00:42
MandenYeah, but you should change it back because now anyone can change stuff in your home folder00:43
Manden777 on home folder shouldn't break things.00:43
Mandenhmm, try ll -d /00:44
matt__is the "amd64" compatible with intel pentium d processors?00:44
Mandenor ls -ld /00:44
matt__i find it interesting that the ubuntu disk mentions intel 64 bits, but the kubuntu ones' just mention amd00:44
Mandenmatt__: The amd64 kernel?  No00:45
sMonkdrw-rw-rw- 21 root root00:45
Mandenthat's not right00:45
matt__Manden: umm....the disk image for download...00:45
sMonkYAY!! head room00:45
Mandenanyone else who uses Kubuntu, can you ls -ld / ?00:45
daSKreechsMonk: umm You mean headway?00:46
sMonkit should have an "x" at the end right?00:46
Mandenmatt__: I think that it's referring to the kernel.  I don't think the amd64 kernel works with Intel00:46
matt__Manden: that's what i mean...hold on..00:46
sMonk... no.. head room.. I had so much google junk in my head. .now I can loose some of it.. lol00:46
Mandenit should be drwxr-xr-x 21 root root I think00:46
matt__Manden: look:00:46
sMonkthat's what I thought00:47
prince_jammyssMonk: that guy in the link seems to have had the permissions of his mount points wrong00:47
MandensMonk: One sec though.  Don't want to go too fast.  I use SuSE and Kubuntu is a bit differnt00:47
matt__Manden: see...for ubuntu...it mentions intel as well...but it doesn't for kubuntu...if you catch my drift...00:47
Mandenprince_jammys: Did you see the permissions of his / directory?  I think they're wrong.00:48
sMonkdrw-rw-rw- 21 root root00:48
sMonkdrw-rw-rw- 21 root root 4096 2008-01-06 15:53 /00:48
prince_jammyssMonk: that looks like the problem00:48
MandensMonk: when you type mount what does it tell you?00:48
prince_jammyssMonk: same as the problem described in the link00:48
prince_jammysManden: you know he's chrooted, right?00:49
sMonkhere you go   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57280/00:49
Mandenprince_jammys: ah00:49
prince_jammysMandon: he chrooted into / from the live cd00:50
sMonkprince_jammys: what do you mean?00:50
Mandenmatt__: I see what you mean.  On the Ubuntu page it looks like the amd64 one will work.  Kubuntu is based on Ubuntu, so it should work, but you might want to google it to be sure.00:50
prince_jammyssMonk: in the web link you posted, the person ended up resolving the problem by changing the permissions of his partition mount points, both / and /home00:50
sMonkand tmp00:51
prince_jammyssMonk: now if i do   ls -ld /    i get: drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-01-05 15:10 /00:51
prince_jammyssMonk: that's 75500:51
prince_jammyssMonk: yours are 66600:51
sMonkyeah..... hey.. just like I first said.. you think I typed it wrong when I tried to chage the permisions of the Virtualbox?00:52
prince_jammyssMonk: maybe00:53
sMonkcause I tried to chage the Vmbox to 666 to let me use it.. (rather than giving myself permission)00:53
sMonkmaybe I hit / instead00:53
prince_jammyssMonk: now before you change this, what are the permissions of your /home00:53
prince_jammyssMonk: excuse me, your /home/youruser00:53
sMonkdrwxrwxrwx  4 root root00:53
sMonkyeah I got what you ment ;)00:54
prince_jammyssMonk: ok you don't need to sudo right now, right? you're root00:54
prince_jammyssMonk: here's my home drwxr-xr-x 71 tantalus tantalus 4096 2008-02-24 18:12 /home/tantalus00:55
prince_jammyssMonk: that's 755, you are 777 and wrong owner00:55
sMonkthat's 755 too00:55
prince_jammyssMonk: 777 shouldn't matter (though it's not good)00:56
prince_jammysit means come get me00:56
K`zanHi Folks, what is the command to reconfigure xorg (moved HD to a new machine), I thought it was "apt-cache reconfigure xorg" but apparently not.  TIA00:57
prince_jammyssMonk: ok     chown youruser:youruser /home/youruser00:57
sMonkok, so could the / permissions be my problem?00:57
prince_jammysK`zan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg00:57
prince_jammyssMonk: both00:57
prince_jammyssMonk: the / definitely00:57
sMonkso type this then   chown dale:dale /home/dale00:57
K`zanprince_jammys: Thanks very much Sir!00:57
sMonkcan't access it..00:58
sMonkno file or dir00:58
prince_jammyssMonk: right00:58
prince_jammyssMonk: just realized00:58
prince_jammyssMonk: ok note that command because after you do your / you're going to type it in the terminal00:59
sMonkok, so do you think I should try to chmod the / ?00:59
sMonkI won't close this window00:59
prince_jammyssMonk: otherwise, we fix your / but your user still won't be able to log in00:59
prince_jammyssMonk: no, the command will have to happen after you reboot00:59
sMonkI won't do anything unless told00:59
prince_jammyssMonk: chmod 755 /01:00
prince_jammyssMonk: and verify01:00
prince_jammysls -ld /01:01
sMonkbingo!  drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-01-06 15:53 /01:01
prince_jammyswould be nice if we could just mount your home from here01:01
Mandeni think the command should be chown yourname.users   It's a perions not a colon, and it's usually owned by users01:01
prince_jammyswe're not changing the owner, just the permissions01:02
prince_jammysthe owner is fine01:02
sMonkI think he means on the home dir no?01:02
prince_jammyssMonk: on the home dir you do both01:02
MandenYou're not changing the owners of the homedire?01:02
prince_jammysyes, but it's not mounted01:02
Mandenah color or period works, but I think the group should be users01:03
oloughlin75Hey all, I am trying to make something and am getting this error: http://pastebin.org/2109401:03
sMonkwell, it's mounted under that /mnt/workhome01:03
prince_jammyssMonk: right01:03
prince_jammyssMonk: i just don't know how to un-chroot you01:03
sMonkok, so what's my next step?01:03
prince_jammyssMonk: hold on01:03
prince_jammyssMonk: the next step is see if we can deal with your home right now without rebooting01:04
Mandenctr+D should leave chroot01:04
derduihi, is anybody able to help me with the installation of the flash player? iam in the right direktory, bit if i type in ./flashplayer-installer, i only see no such file or directory01:05
sMonkshould I try chown dale:dale /mnt/workhome01:05
BluesKajderdui, to which directory did you download it01:06
sMonkprince_jammys: what about chown dale:dale /mnt/workhome01:07
prince_jammyssMonk: not until you un-chroot01:07
prince_jammyssMonk: try control D like Manden said01:07
sMonknow root@ubuntu:~#01:08
BluesKajderdui then type : cd desktop ,in the konsole01:08
prince_jammyscan you ls /mnt/workhome01:08
Mandeni think you want to chown /mnt/workhome/username01:08
mrunagi!flash | derdui01:08
ubotuderdui: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:08
derduiare you german blueskaj?01:08
sMonkyes I can01:08
prince_jammyschown dale:dale /mnt/workhome/user01:08
BluesKajno, canadian01:09
sMonkdale  lost+found01:09
sMonkis what was found01:09
prince_jammyssMonk: your user not there?01:09
prince_jammysoh i see, dale01:09
BluesKajderdui, cd /home/yourusername/desktop01:09
sMonkso then chown dale:dale /mnt/workhome/dale01:10
prince_jammysdo that chown and verify with ls -ld /mnt/blahblah01:10
sMonkchown: `dale:dale': invalid user01:10
derduii tried it like that monk, but when i type cd /home/derui/Desktop/flashplayer:01:10
sMonkshould I try that *.01:10
prince_jammysthat's the chroot problem01:11
MandenThere's no group dale01:11
derdui_installer:9_linux it doesnt work01:11
prince_jammysnor user, because he's on  live cd01:11
prince_jammysand not chrooted01:11
sMonkok.. so now try what Manden said... chown dale.users /mnt.....01:11
quocdaihelp me01:11
prince_jammysManden what are the owner and group of your home dir01:12
sMonkI'll wait01:12
Mandenhe should be able to set the UID directly01:12
prince_jammysmine are both the same01:12
Mandenah, Kubuntu thing maybe.01:12
quocdaiwhere can i get gcc ?01:12
MandenBut he should be able to force it to change, or use the UID01:12
BluesKajderdui, first, cd /home/yourusername/desktop , then type, ./flashplayer-installer01:13
Daisuke-Ido!build-essential | quocdai01:13
ubotuquocdai: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)01:13
Mandentry chown -f dale:dale /mnt/workhome/dale01:13
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!01:13
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)01:14
prince_jammyssMonk: try that01:14
sMonkchown: `dale:dale': invalid user01:14
prince_jammyssMonk: mmm01:14
Mandenok cat /etc/passwd | grep dale01:15
prince_jammyssMonk: you can do this once you reboot from a terminal01:15
sMonkok, what one am I doing here?01:15
Mandenit should say dale:x:[some number]:[somenumber]01:15
prince_jammyssMonk: when you reboot, you *hopefully* won't get the old errors, but still will not be able to login as your user until you chown01:15
sMonkManden: it did nothing01:16
derduiit doesnt works blueskaj01:16
prince_jammysin /mnt/workspace/etc/passwd01:16
sMonkprince_jammys: ok, but to make it to a terminal so I can log in.. should I do recovery mode?01:16
Mandenoh yeah, it's remounted01:16
prince_jammyssMonk: yes, you can do that and then ::   sudo chown01:17
Mandenthen chown -f [firstnumber].[secondnumber] /etc/workhome/dale01:17
BluesKajderdui, paste the konsole error text in pastebin01:17
sMonkok I got dale:x:1000:1000:Dale Winn,,,:/home/dale:/bin/bash01:17
Jim_Morrisonspeak italian ?01:18
Mandenchown -f 1000.1000 /mnt/workhome/dale01:18
prince_jammysyeah, your 1000 is the default01:18
prince_jammystry that01:18
Mandenchown won't check for the username, and it should work01:18
sMonkI think it worked.. checking01:18
Mandenls -ld /mnt/workhome/dale01:18
derduiderdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ ./flashplayer-installer01:19
derduibash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory01:19
derduiderdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ cd /home/derdui/Desktop/install_flashplayer_9_linux01:19
derduibash: cd: /home/derdui/Desktop/install_flashplayer_9_linux: No such file or directory01:19
derduiderdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ ./flashplayer-installer01:19
derduibash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory01:19
sMonkdrwxrwxrwx 4 root root 4096 2007-12-02 00:32 /mnt/workhome01:19
derduiderdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ cd desktop01:19
derduibash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory01:19
derduiderdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ flashplayer-installer01:19
derduibash: flashplayer-installer: command not found01:19
derduiderdui@DerDui-lappy:~/Desktop$ ./flashplayer-installer01:19
derduibash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory01:19
Mandenok just reboot and sudo like prince_jammys said01:20
prince_jammyssMonk: try it from recovery and come back01:20
mrunagiderdui: wow flood?01:20
Jim_Morrisoncan we help me ?01:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:20
derduisorry, thought i had copied the link from the browser^^01:20
sMonkok... wish me luck   so it will be   sudo chown dale:dale /home01:20
prince_jammyssMonk: you will be able to use your name instead of UID01:20
mrunagiwhat irc client do you use derdui01:20
prince_jammysthat should work01:20
prince_jammyssMonk: come back with live cd if things don't work01:21
prince_jammysgood luck01:21
derduithe konversation^^01:21
BluesKaj!pastebin | derdui01:21
ubotuderdui: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:21
Mandenprince_jammys:  Is Kubuntu chown different? Can you set ownership using UID?01:21
MandenI'm not using Kubuntu01:22
prince_jammysManden: i've never done it01:22
prince_jammysManden: ubuntu?01:22
MandensMonk started in a different channel and moved here.01:22
MandenNo SuSE.  I've thought about trying Kubuntu though.  SuSE is getting to be unstable.01:22
prince_jammysManden: the kde desktop wouldn't matter01:22
MandenI know, that's where he asked the question though, and I was in it trying to help him.01:23
prince_jammyswell let me try it01:23
prince_jammysi'll chown something01:23
prince_jammysi'll do my homedir01:23
BluesKajderdui, I repeat ,  cd /home/derdui/desktop , then type, ./flashplayer-installer01:23
Mandeni did touch test01:23
ieroglifhi all01:23
Mandensudo chown etc..01:23
ieroglifрусские тут е? =)01:24
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke01:24
MandenSomeone told me today that you can't login as root on Kubuntu, is that true?01:24
prince_jammysyou CAN but not by default01:25
prince_jammysit comes with no root passwd01:25
sMonkThank you guys!!!!01:25
prince_jammysthe preferred way is with sudo01:25
sMonkI'm in my system01:25
prince_jammyssMonk: success?01:25
BluesKajManden, you can , but you shouldn't01:25
sMonk*high 5*01:25
Daisuke-Idothere is also virtually NO reason that you would or should EVER need to.01:25
MandenYou know what.  I just checked back.  He did ls on /mnt/workhome not /mnt/workhome/dale. It probabl worked01:25
prince_jammysManden: yeah that whole mounted home thing might have messed it up01:26
MandensMonk: sweet.  Now you should change the permissions on your /home/dale files01:26
sMonkManden Prince if you're ever in Ontario Canada, I owe ya a beer01:26
sMonkok, how do I do that01:26
prince_jammysManden: i don't think he did anything recursive01:26
sMonkchmod 755 /home01:26
Mandenhe did ;(01:26
MandenSomeone suggested that he do chmod -R 755 /home/dale, which was bad in the first place.  He did chmod 777 -R /home.01:27
prince_jammysls -ld /home01:27
sMonkdrwxrwxrwx 4 dale dale 4096 2007-12-01 19:32 /home01:27
derduiit doesnt work blueskaj01:28
prince_jammyssudo chown 755 /home01:28
sMonkchown? not chmod?01:28
tekteenprince_jammys: it is chmod01:28
prince_jammyschmod, sorry yeah01:28
Mandenneeds to chown root.root too01:28
sMonkdrwxr-xr-x 4 dale dale 4096 2007-12-01 19:32 /home01:29
prince_jammyssudo chown root:root /home01:29
BluesKajsMonk, where in ontario ?01:29
sMonkprince_jammys: you just got me to change it to dale.dale tho01:29
BluesKaj!flashissues | derdui01:29
AhmuckSuse is getting unstable !?  and i wonder why01:29
ubotuderdui: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »01:29
prince_jammysno, that should be your users home01:29
MandensMonk: You should have changed /home/dale to dale:dale01:30
MandenAhmuck: Because they add a bunch of unstable junk to it.01:30
prince_jammyssMonk: your /home should be root:root and your /home/dale should be dale:dale01:30
prince_jammyssMonk: which i bet it is, if you're logged in as dale01:30
Ahmuckyou mean since ms has got their hand in the pie01:30
BluesKajjust west of sudbury here, sMonk01:30
Daisuke_Idoi think xfce is going to be my new DE for a while01:31
sMonkdrwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-12-01 19:32 /home01:31
Daisuke_Idoi just...  can't get used to kde again :(01:31
MandenNovell owns SuSE. MS supports Novell.  MS has nothing to do with it's development.01:31
prince_jammyssMonk: good01:31
sMonkdrwxrwxrwx 63 dale dale 4096 2008-02-24 20:24 /home/dale01:31
prince_jammyssMonk: sudo chmod 755 /home/dale01:31
sMonkdrwxr-xr-x 63 dale dale 4096 2008-02-24 20:24 /home/dale01:31
mrunagidoes ubuntu have any language learning software namely german?01:32
prince_jammyssMonk: now ls -l ~01:32
Daisuke_Idoso is there a /home/dale/gribble/aka/rusty/shackleford ?01:32
sMonkBluesKaj: almost brothers.. lol01:32
MandenHe did a -R do /home/dale.  You can use find to recursively find directories and files and give them different permissions, but as long as /home/dale is 755 I think it should be ok.01:32
derduiok i tried it with apt-get purge ..... what should i type to install the flashplayer nonfree?01:32
prince_jammyssMonk: are all your user's files rwxrwxrwx ?01:32
Daisuke_Idosorry, i'm tired, i'm walking away with my head hung in shame now01:32
ubotuderdui: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:32
BluesKajparents lived in simcoe for a while , sMonk ...nice town01:32
sMonkBluesKaj: thanks01:33
sMonkprince_jammys: yes01:33
playstation3i have problems with installing Firefox on Kubuntu 7.10 .. any tutorials ?01:33
tekteensudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree        : derdui01:33
prince_jammysManden: do you think he should change all his files to 755?01:33
BluesKajplaystation3, use adept01:34
Mandenno, he won't be able to see directories then01:34
MandenDirectories need execute permission to be listed01:34
playstation3adept gibin errorrs01:34
prince_jammysoh right, because the group is restricted01:34
derduithanks tekteen01:34
playstation3giving errors01:34
tekteenderdui: np01:34
prince_jammyssMonk: you're logged in as dale, right?01:34
MandensMonk: cd ~01:34
sMonkOK, so this don't happen again.. how do I give myself vbox permission01:35
Mandenand type find -type d -exec chmod 711 \{\} \;01:35
sMonkyes I am01:35
Mandenthat change permissions on all directories in your home folder01:35
BluesKajflashplugin for firefox derdui ...why didn't you say so ?01:35
prince_jammyssMonk: do that01:35
derduiist doesnt work tekteen^^01:35
sMonkI did.. I have some txt tho.. hold on01:36
playstation3i downloaded tar.gz file firefox3b3 , extracted it to /opt so whats next ?01:36
derduiive restartet the ff...01:36
tekteenderdui: for firefox?01:36
tekteenderdui: go to a website with flash01:36
tekteenderdui: then click "Install Missing Plugins"01:36
BluesKajderdui, pls explain ..it doesn't work ...how do you know it doesn't work . What are you doing that tells you that ?01:37
prince_jammyssMonk: cuz of sudo01:37
Mandenwho owns those files?01:37
sMonkstill good then01:37
sMonkI'm the only user on this computer so me01:37
MandenIt may be root01:37
Mandenls -ld ./RealPlayer01:38
nosrednaekimplaystation3» run /opt/firefox/firefox most likely..... there is an executable with int htere (if its a precompiled binary)01:38
prince_jammysthat's right, otherwise you wouldn't get errors01:38
derduiokay, iam a dick....01:38
MandenIf it were me, I would just remove RealPlayer ;)01:38
prince_jammyssMonk: can you view the contents of one of your dirs?01:38
prince_jammysof course you can 77701:38
BluesKajyeah realplayer ? who needs it anyway01:39
derduiive turned javascript of.....01:39
prince_jammyssMonk: ls -l ~ and paste01:39
sMonkdrwxrwxrwx 11 root root 4096 2007-12-19 22:19 ./RealPlayer01:39
tekteenderdui: lol01:39
prince_jammyssudo chown -R dale:dale /home/dale01:39
derduibut thank you all:D01:39
MandenWhy is it not dale already?01:39
prince_jammysManden: because no -R earlier01:39
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)01:40
MandenBut he never changed his ownerships earlier, just permissions01:40
prince_jammysManden changed the owner of /home/dale only, not subdirs01:40
playstation3nosrednaekim : error ; /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected01:40
prince_jammyswhat a mess01:40
sMonkyour tellin' me01:41
MandenI know, but he never changed the owner to root in the first place.  I think RealPlayer maybe install with root as owner.  I don't have it installed so I don't know01:41
nosrednaekimprince_jammys» oh.. thats easy to fix01:41
prince_jammyssMonk: looks good01:41
nosrednaekimwhats the home dir, and what user does he want it to be owned by?01:41
prince_jammysnosrednaekim: you're coming in at the tail end of the mess01:41
prince_jammysit's done01:42
nosrednaekimah ok:)01:42
sMonkthanks tho nosred01:42
MandenAnyone have RealPlayer that can tell me the default permissions of /home/user/RealPlayer?01:42
prince_jammyssMonk: ok now you want to be in the group vbox or whataver01:42
stdinplaystation3: try "bash /opt/firefox/firefox-bin" instead01:42
Mandenwell, lets skip that for right now.01:42
MandenType this from inside ~ find -type f -exec chmod 600 \{\} \;01:43
prince_jammysbut isn't he done otherwise?01:43
swattonight all01:43
sMonkif there is any problems with my permissions, is that why Firefox won't display flash stuff properly? It puts things behind it and doesn't play the flash all the time.. yet sometimes it does01:43
Mandenactually wait01:43
playstation3ERROR " /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: cannot execute binary file "01:43
prince_jammysManden: what if he has executable files?01:43
Mandenyeah, that's why I said wait01:43
nosrednaekimManden» chmod does have a recursive flag....01:43
Mandennosrednaekim: yes, and it will mess up his directories01:44
BluesKajchmod +x01:44
sMonkI already did it01:44
Mandendo this find -type f -exec chmod o-w \{\} \;01:44
Mandenyou already set it to 600 ?01:44
prince_jammys755 is safe01:44
sMonkwhen you said type this.. I copied it and hit enter01:44
prince_jammyssMonk: sudo chown -R 755 /home/dale01:45
prince_jammyswhy not?01:45
Mandenthen he can't open directories01:45
prince_jammysyes he can01:45
Mandenoh yeah01:45
prince_jammyssMonk: sudo chown -R 755 /home/dale01:45
sMonkdo it?01:45
sMonksoon as I did that.. Konversation gave me an error.. now K torrent is too01:46
MandenThey should get over it.01:46
prince_jammysbut it was successful?01:46
playstation3stdin : ERROR " /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: cannot execute binary file "01:47
sMonkbut this is what happend last time.. then I couldn't reboot01:47
sMonkhow do I check?01:47
prince_jammys755 and your user as owner is fine01:47
Mandenthat's probably from the 60001:47
prince_jammysthe 600 is the what did it01:47
nosrednaekimplaystation3» "sudo chmod a+x /opt/firefox/firefox-bin"01:47
sMonkI just tried to do a ls -l ~ and it says permission is denied01:48
Mandendo sudo ls -l ~01:48
Mandenwait no01:48
Mandendo sudo ls -l /home/dale01:48
prince_jammyssudo ls -l01:48
stdinplaystation3: if that doesn't work, you can always try #firefox on irc.mozilla.org01:48
therealpxchey... does anybody know anything about fixing broken package issues that arise from removing a repository from which you have installed many packages01:49
prince_jammyslol, owned by user 75501:49
Mandenchmod not chown01:49
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» could you be a bit more specific?01:49
therealpxcapt seems to think that the candidate versions for many KDE packages belong in the ppa repository01:49
therealpxcor come from it01:49
prince_jammyssMonk: ok this time01:50
therealpxcbut I no longer want that repository, so I removed it01:50
playstation3pff same error01:50
therealpxcdid an apt-get update01:50
prince_jammyssMonk: sudo chown -R dale:dale /home/dale01:50
sMonkmy linux hates you prince.. lol01:50
therealpxcbut Kubuntu still wants to (re)install the packages from it01:50
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» reinstall them? or install older versions?01:50
quocdai_where can i get the GCC pakage if i dont have internet ?01:51
prince_jammyssudo chmod -R 755 /home/dale01:51
quocdai_i cant use sudo01:51
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)01:51
prince_jammyssMonk: sudo chmod -R 755 /home/dale01:51
nosrednaekim!packages | quocdai_01:51
ubotuquocdai_: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!01:51
therealpxcnosrednaekim: is there any way to reinstall only packages with the phrase "ppa" in the version?01:51
sMonkprince_jammys: ok01:51
therealpxcalso, nosredaekim: if I try to reinstall them, it tries to reinstall the same old, not-really-there version01:52
prince_jammyssMonk: ok NOW you should be fine01:52
Mandenwell, that took a while01:52
MandenBut it works ;)01:52
sMonkThanks to both of you01:52
prince_jammyssMonk: everything should be rwxr-xr-x dale dale01:52
prince_jammyssMonk: the name of the group is vboxusers01:52
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» yeah.... just a moment01:53
prince_jammyssMonk: you can add yourself from the GUI01:53
sMonkalright, what's it under?01:53
prince_jammyssMonk: system-settings or kcontrol, depending on which you use01:53
sMonkUser Management?01:54
prince_jammysyes, i think01:54
prince_jammyscheck if the name is vboxusers01:54
sMonksecondary groups?01:54
sd32once i start a live cd  do i need to keep the cd in the drive, or does it run in memmory?01:54
sMonkOk, sorry how do I go about it?01:55
therealpxcsd32: Ubuntu and its brethren don't load the CD into memory01:55
mrunagihow can i get a mounted cd sit on the desktop like a real cd does01:56
sd32therealpxc: ok thanks01:56
sMonkI got the user Management up, but I don't see anything about vboxusers01:56
prince_jammyssMonk: yeah, add that group in "secondary groups"01:56
quocdai_i cant browse pakages.ubuntu.com01:56
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)01:56
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» ok.... in adept_manager search for only package name (uncheck the others), then enter "ppa" as the search term.... show only packages that are installed, the outline all the packages and select reinstall01:56
sMonkprince_jammys: got it01:56
prince_jammyssMonk: from the internet, the name appears to be: vboxusers01:56
sd32so if i take out my hard drive, the live cd wont work?01:56
nosrednaekimquocdai_» why not?01:56
prince_jammyssMonk: in a terminal type :   id01:57
nosrednaekimsd32» it will01:57
sd32nosrednaekim: ok thanks01:57
therealpxcnosrednaekim: thanks, but I already tried that. ppa doesn't technically show up in the package name, and I can't find a version tag01:57
prince_jammyssMonk: is vboxusers there?01:57
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» ah! ok.... just a moment then01:58
prince_jammyssMonk: did you save changes in system-settings?01:58
prince_jammyssMonk: or do it in "administrative mode"?01:58
mrunaginosrednaekim: do you know how to get a mounted ISO to put an icon on the desktop?01:58
raylumrunagi, automatically?01:59
nosrednaekimmrunagi» somewhere in the desktop config there is a option for that you want to be shown on the desktop01:59
sMonkI did it in admin mode.. I selected the vboxusers from the list, moved it over.. hit ok, then close.. and I just opened it back up and it shows vboxusers01:59
MandenNeed to log out in and back in02:00
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» well, synaptic (the Ubuntu package manager) has an option for that.(installed from a particular souce)02:00
mrunaginosrednaekim: theres not an option for manually mounted images02:00
MandenI mean log out and back in02:00
sMonkok.. hold on02:00
Mandenyeah, you don't need to restart the computer, just log out of the shell and back in.  Or log out of KDE and back in02:00
quocdai_nosrednaekim: can u browse it ? the browser warning that it cant be display02:00
sd32nosrednaekim: does a live cd session need the cd in the drive during the whole session?02:00
nosrednaekimmrunagi»  I thought there was an option that said to show everything in /media02:00
prince_jammyssMonk: weird that it doesn't show up when you did "id"02:00
nosrednaekimsd32» yes02:01
nosrednaekimsd32» at elast the kubuntu one does02:01
mrunagii dont see that02:01
therealpxcnosredaekim: excellent. I'd like to avoid installing synaptic if I can--perhaps there's an apt-cache option to do the same thing. if not, I'll just bite the bullet and install synaptic02:01
nosrednaekimquocdai_» yeah.. I can02:01
sd32nosrednaekim: ok thanks02:01
MandenThe terminal was probably started by KDE, so the user groups would be the same as the ones that started KDE02:01
coreymon77sd32: are you who i think you are?02:01
sd32coreymon77: and that would be???02:01
sMonkprince_jammys: It's there now02:02
prince_jammyssMonk: it seems that you're set02:02
sMonkWell, thank you very much, both of you for putting up with me02:02
prince_jammyssMonk: your /home should be rwxr-xr-x root root     your /home/dale should be  rwxr-xr-x dale dale02:03
mrunagiam i just missing it nosrednaekim02:03
prince_jammyssMonk: no, you said it would be challenging02:03
MandensMonk: No problem02:03
nosrednaekimmrunagi» lemme see02:03
prince_jammysthanks Manden02:04
Mandenoops, sMonk: I think you need to change the permissions on /home/lost+found too02:04
Mandenalthough I have no idea what it's for02:04
prince_jammysyeah, if anything they're too lax02:04
nosrednaekimmrunagi» "mounted hard disk volume"02:04
mrunagiits checked02:04
sMonkManden: does it need to be root or dale? and 755?02:05
therealpxcnosrednaekim: that brings me to the next problem... http://www.robertc.com/pxc/images/misc/adept-screen2.png02:05
prince_jammysi don't have a /home/lost+found02:05
Mandenmine are root.root 700 , but you should set yours to whatever prince_jammys has02:05
flealost+found is per fs02:05
therealpxcwhich is what appears upon a reinstall attempt02:05
prince_jammysManden: i don't have one02:05
sMonkshould I just leave it then?02:05
prince_jammyssMonk: what are they?02:05
Mandenflea: Do you know what the default permissions are for ext3 lost+found?02:05
sMonkowner is root, but it appears to be chmod 77702:05
sMonkdrwxrwxrwx 2 root root 16384 2007-12-01 19:26 /home/lost+found/02:06
stdinshould be 70002:06
MandensMonk: is your filesystem ext3?02:06
Mandenthx stdin.02:06
Mandenset it to chmod 700 /home/lost+found02:07
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» use apt-get so we can gett a better error message02:07
sMonkso should it be sudo chmod -R 700 /home/lost02:07
therealpxcnosredaekim: of course02:07
Mandendo use -R,  there shouldn't be anything in it anyhow02:07
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» what packages are these anyway? kde4?02:07
Mandendon't use -R i mean02:07
prince_jammyssMonk: yeah no -R02:07
mrunagii would also like for my mounted image to show up in storage media02:07
sMonkdrwx------ 2 root root 16384 2007-12-01 19:26 /home/lost+found/02:08
prince_jammysthat's 70002:08
sd32is ext3 filesystem mandatory for linux install?02:08
prince_jammysso yeah02:08
MandenJust as a general not, recursive operations (like -R for chmod and chown) should be used with caution02:08
sMonkI did use -R .. is that bad?02:08
therealpxc"pxc@cooldude:~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall kate02:08
therealpxcReading package lists... Done02:08
therealpxcBuilding dependency tree02:08
therealpxcReading state information... Done02:08
therealpxcReinstallation of kate is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.02:08
therealpxc0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."02:08
therealpxcbut not much more helpful02:08
stdin!paste > therealpxc02:08
Mandensd32: Distrospecific, but generally you can pick from several02:08
sd32Manden: ok thanks02:08
sMonkI did use -R .. is that bad?02:09
nosrednaekimmrunagi» are you mounting to /media?02:09
prince_jammyssMonk: if you did -R i would change it back and then do it without -R02:09
therealpxcI don't understand why pidgin makes a new line for each thing I try to paste... is that just something of IRC?02:09
mrunaginosrednaekim: yes02:09
sMonkok, so sudo chmod -R 777 /home/lost   then sudo chmod 700 /home/lost02:09
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» yeah02:09
stdinprince_jammys: it would only matter if there re files in lost+found, and if that's true then there are bigger issues to worry about02:09
MandenI doubt there is anything in the lost+found folder, so -R wouldn't do anything02:09
Mandenit's not lost it should be lost+found02:09
nosrednaekimmrunagi» odd02:09
prince_jammyssMonk: stdin: true02:10
sMonkI just didn't want to type the found02:10
mrunaginosrednaekim: ive never had a manually mounted iso plant itself in storage media or on the desktop02:10
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» run "sudo apt-get update"02:10
Mandenif /home/dale/lost+found is 700 root.root you should be ok02:10
Mandenand you should be all set02:10
philphotojust figured out a problem but I don't know how to fix it:  during an install, /dev/.udev/... isn't created and so i don't have any usb.  anyone know how I might rectify this?02:10
therealpxcnosredaekim: that doesn't change it, I've done it already02:10
sd32cause everytime i install linux I reboot and get the dreded blinking cursor :-002:10
sMonkI know I can't access it02:10
sMonktells me access is denied02:10
sMonkwhen I cd to it02:10
Mandenonly root should be able to access it02:10
prince_jammyssMonk: you should be fine02:11
sMonksweet deal... thanks again02:11
prince_jammyssMonk: no prob02:11
sMonkI really should start hanging out in here more often.. learn this stuff02:11
quocdai_nosrednaekim: : can u give e pakage link again ?02:11
therealpxcnosredaekim: yup, it does nothing02:11
nosrednaekimquocdai_» for gutsy http://www.google.com/url?q=http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNHMLK2AxWFDsxkuW-D_qqHoVjSEnA02:12
therealpxcor has no effect on this problem, rather02:12
philphotoany ideas out there with my usb problem?02:12
prince_jammyssMonk: chown  or  chmod -R   <- -- be very careful in the future02:12
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sMonkI will02:12
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» could you pastebin your sources.list?02:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:13
Mandenso how did / get it's permissions changed in the first place just out of curiosity?02:13
mrunaginosrednaekim: are you saying that your mounted images put an icon on the desktop and ins torage media?02:13
sMonkI don't know.. I wish I did02:13
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.02:13
sMonkI think I miss typed something02:13
prince_jammyssMonk: other than writing scripts and making them executable, you don't need to do much chowning and chmod unless you are a sysadmin02:13
sMonkI know I was doing a chmod command02:13
nosrednaekimmrunagi» I think they did before I switched to kde402:14
therealpxcnosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57289/02:14
mrunagidoes anyone else mount iso alot?02:14
MandenWell, I'm going to engage in something that involves less intese thought.02:14
therealpxcnosredaekim: that last one, that's commented out, is the ppa repos that has these packages in it02:14
prince_jammyssMonk: i think it all began that way02:15
sMonkit's a dark section02:15
MandenGood night to you all.  Glad you got you box working again sMonk.  Thanks prince_jammys.02:15
sMonkI don't want to do it again02:15
prince_jammysManden: thanks for helping out02:15
sMonkManden: thanks!02:15
prince_jammyslet's see what other catastrophe i can involved with02:17
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» that repo does not contain "kate".. it contains "kate-kde4"02:17
sMonkYou should have attempted to help me about a year ago..02:18
prince_jammyssMonk: i did something like what you did when i first set up linux02:18
nosrednaekimprince_jammys» lol :)02:18
sMonkI had vista on my computer, then I put linux on, it deleted Vista's MBR and I never did get it back02:18
prince_jammyssMonk: on the same system i use still02:19
nosrednaekimsMonk» haha...i'm not goin to say nothin about that :)02:19
sMonkGlad to know I'm not alone02:19
WayfarerHey, I'm looking for some help with sound in Kubuntu, mainly, I don't have any02:19
therealpxcnosredaeskin: strange... apt-cache show kate indicates a version ending in ubuntu, but adept disagrees02:19
nosrednaekimprince_jammys» your request answered ^^02:19
prince_jammysno no i wasn't requesting :)02:19
nosrednaekimtherealpxc» huh02:19
prince_jammysi suck at sound02:19
Wayfarerprince_jammys: that is okay02:20
prince_jammysWayfarer: how many sound cards?02:20
WayfarerI have a laptop, I think only one02:21
prince_jammysWayfarer: did the sound ever work>02:21
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Wayfarerprince_jammys: but "aplay -l" lists 2 things02:21
WayfarerSound hasn't worked yet in kubuntu, it does work in Vista02:21
prince_jammyssee, i suck at sound, i don't know what aplay is02:21
nosrednaekimWayfarer» is it a Intel HDA chipset?02:22
* nosrednaekim hasn't a clue either02:22
Wayfarerwell damn02:22
joe2370I'm doing a dist upgrade and I got a segfault in the middle of installing debconf.  Now debconf is in an inconsistent state.  What to do?02:22
nosrednaekimi'm a great guesser though02:22
prince_jammysWayfarer: step one is to assemble a good irc question for you :)02:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intehda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:22
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto02:22
prince_jammysWayfarer: number of cards, and exact card02:23
nosrednaekimsee? eureka! guessing works02:23
prince_jammysWayfarer: cuz i suck at sound but i'm great at google02:23
raylujoe2370, try dpkg --configure -a02:23
raylu(with sudo)02:23
* nosrednaekim is the same02:23
Wayfarerhang on, reading what ubotu sent me02:23
joe2370raylu: naturally.  thanks, trying it now02:23
prince_jammysWayfarer: yeah that looks promising02:23
nosrednaekimthat has fixed soo many problems...02:24
* nosrednaekim hugs the bot02:24
philphotoproblem with usb:  installer is not creating udev .   how can I fix this?02:24
rayluwhat installer?02:24
joe2370raylu: database locked by another process.  looks like I need to quit the gui upgrade tool.02:24
philphotoiso image02:24
rayluhuh? why are you installing an iso?02:24
nosrednaekimjoe2370» indeed.02:25
nosrednaekimjoe2370» you can resume it later02:25
philphotono, no.  installing Kubuntu02:25
prince_jammysah, mr underscore again02:25
root_______alguien habla español02:25
philphotowhen i did the install udev is not created and I have no usb02:25
prince_jammys!es | root_______02:25
uboturoot_______: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.02:25
joe2370ok, the warning message is a bit ominous: "You are strongly adviced [sic] to resume the upgrade"02:25
rayluwait...what is udev? i have /dev/usb*, but no udev02:26
raylujoe2370, is this feisty to gutsy?02:26
joe2370raylu: upgrading to gutsy, I think02:26
philphotoa module.  it should be there02:26
joe2370still locked02:26
mrunagidoes anyone mount iso's often?02:26
philphotoI have no usbdevfs either02:26
Daisuke-Laptop!iso | mrunagi02:27
ubotumrunagi: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.02:27
mrunagiDaisuke-Laptop: that factoid doesnt help me02:27
mrunagiid like to have a device icon in my storage media and on my desktop for the iso02:27
Daisuke-Laptopso create one02:29
playstation3i m trying to install firefox on playstation3 , is it compatible ?02:29
Daisuke-Laptopplaystation3: um...  kubuntu on ps3?02:29
mrunagii swear all of my questions i ever have in here are never explained easily02:29
mrunagisure i could put a link on the desktop and in storage media to the folder for the iso..........id LIKE for it to act like an ACTUAL device02:30
joe2370does dpkg have a lockfile or something?  It still says "status database is locked by another process"02:30
Daisuke-Laptopi wouldn't have the slightest clue how to go about that, sorry02:30
Daisuke-Laptop!aptfix | joe237002:30
ubotujoe2370: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »02:30
mrunagino one does Daisuke-Laptop =*(02:31
prince_jammysi *think* you can do that playstation302:31
playstation3kubuntu 7.10 on ps3 yes02:31
Daisuke-Laptopthe ps3 becomes more of a hobbyist's machine every day02:31
Daisuke-Laptopeventually i may buy one :D02:31
philphotoanyone know how I can fix udev?02:31
prince_jammyspretty soon you'll be able to install ubuntu on a microwave oven02:31
mrunagiim not impressed with ps3 myself02:31
mrunagii installed it on my toaster02:32
joe2370Daisuke-Laptop: that seems to have helped, though "Errors were encountered while processing" a few packages.02:32
mrunagiit even has wireless02:32
mrunagii watched a bluray on it last night02:32
nosrednaekimroot_______» lol... its hilarious how many peoplerun X as root....not real smart there02:32
mrunagii run everything as root02:32
Daisuke-Laptopnosrednaekim: two words: "honey pot"02:32
prince_jammysespecially all the people who run X as root______________________________02:32
mrunagii want to cripple my machine02:32
playstation3help meee02:32
mrunagihow do i run x as root02:32
philphotoI installed Xfce on my swiss army knife02:32
prince_jammysyes, that's doable02:33
mrunagiwhy would you want to run kubuntu on a ps302:33
nosrednaekimphilphoto» yup :)02:33
mrunagiphilphoto: actually..............02:33
mrunagiphilphoto: i really did install kubuntu on my swiss army knife02:33
mrunagiphilphoto: my swiss army knife has a usb drive on it02:33
mrunagihow funny02:34
prince_jammysthere's a how to somewhere02:34
mrunagibut you know what would be great????????02:34
playstation3i followed instructions on ths page : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html .. but nothing appears on shortcuts menu02:34
mrunagiif i could get kubuntu to see mounted iso as a device02:34
playstation3i cant run on shell also02:34
joe2370ok, I have run dpkg --configure -a with (more or less) success.  Now do I `apt-get dist-upgrade` or something to continue upgrading?02:35
Daisuke_Laptopthat's better02:35
philphotoso no one knows how I fix the lack of udev on my machine?02:35
Daisuke_Laptopfor some reason, whenever i'm using a gtk+ based desktop environment, QT apps don't adhere to font dpi settings02:35
playstation3i have dpkg error also : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:36
nosredna_ekimphilphoto» get the swiss army knife blade out of your USB port ;)02:37
joe2370Daisuke_Laptop: so is my next move `apt-get dist-upgrade` or something?02:37
Daisuke_Laptopsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:38
philphotonosredna_ekim:  I'm about to funnel a cola into my last working hdd02:38
joe2370or should I try installing the new version on top of this one?02:38
mrunagiis kopete ever going to work?02:39
prince_jammysjoe2370: if you have a /home partition, that would be ideal. you can also do the upgrade with the above commands02:39
joe2370prince_jammys: ah, didn't notice Daisuke's reply.02:40
prince_jammysjoe2370: or if you have your /home backed up02:40
joe2370prince_jammys: is there really a risk of trashing /home?02:40
nosredna_ekimmrunagi» did you run a system update?02:40
nosredna_ekimjoe2370» no02:40
mrunaginot recently02:40
prince_jammysjoe2370: no02:41
nosredna_ekimmrunagi» are you trying to use MSN?02:41
philphotohave fun.  gonna try another channel02:41
mrunagikopete crashes on me alot but yes msn is  namely one time it crashes02:41
prince_jammysjoe2370: it's just that clean installs are less trouble prone.  i did an upgrade (not clean) and it worked02:41
joe2370step 2 (upgrade) failed due to unmet dependencies. :-/02:41
Wayfarerrebooting after compiling02:41
Wayfarershall we see if I have sound?????02:42
prince_jammysi have to remember !intelhda02:42
nosredna_ekimprince_jammys» yeah.. its awesome :)02:42
prince_jammysnosredna_ekim: you know there''s a few new ubotu factoids02:42
mrunaginosredna_ekim: do you know how to fix it?02:42
Dr_willisi even wrote a little script for a friend to install the latest alsa drivers for him.  - taken from the info on !intelhda02:42
prince_jammys!filenames | nosredna_ekim02:42
ubotunosredna_ekim: File names in Ubuntu are case sensitive, MyFile is not the same as myfile, and if you put spaces in there and use a console you need to "escape" the space, thus "gedit My\ File.txt"02:43
Dr_willisgedit 'whatever file' also works. :)02:43
nosredna_ekimmrunagi» latest kopete shouldn't crash on MSN02:43
nosredna_ekimprince_jammys» I know:)02:43
ubotuPackages contained in 3rd party repositories are not included in Ubuntu for a reason. Whether this be poor packaging standards, bugs or malicious authors. You should trust the maintainers of these repositories before using them. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297814 for consequences.02:43
prince_jammysjust spreading the word02:45
mrunaginosredna_ekim: apt-get says kopete is newest version02:45
playstation3How can i solve this error ? ??? "" dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): """02:46
mrunaginosredna_ekim: id like to be able to use my webcam with kopete02:46
spyd3ris there anyone here?02:48
spyd3rthank god02:49
spyd3ri need some help02:49
prince_jammysthere's always someone here02:49
spyd3ri can't figure it out!02:49
prince_jammyswhat is it?02:49
spyd3rmy first time trying to use kubuntu02:49
spyd3rI don't know how to install02:49
spyd3ror anything really02:49
WayfarerNo sound02:50
spyd3rand the forums areno help at all02:50
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prince_jammysspyd3r: is kubuntu installed?02:50
spyd3rno i have sound02:50
WayfarerI don't have sound, lol02:50
mrunagiwhat is kubuntu02:50
spyd3rI just can't figure the os out at all02:50
WayfarerKubuntu = Ubuntu but using KDE desktop instead of Gnome02:50
spyd3ryes I have kubuntu installed02:50
prince_jammysspyd3r: let me introduce you to the bot02:50
spyd3rI don't know how to install onto it02:50
prince_jammys!elaborate | spyd3r02:50
ubotuspyd3r: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)02:50
mrunagi!help | spyd3r02:50
ubotuspyd3r: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:50
spyd3rI just need some answers..............02:51
Wayfarerubotu: I don't have sound still02:51
spyd3rI can figure most of it out on my own02:51
prince_jammysi need some questions02:51
Wayfarerso, all knowing, doesn't quite do it02:51
spyd3rwell first off im trying to get the compiz-fusion running02:51
prince_jammysspyd3r: ok ... is kubuntu installed?02:51
spyd3rand the guides are not helping me to do this02:51
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:51
prince_jammysok so it's installed02:52
spyd3rwhat ?02:52
spyd3rim so lost02:52
spyd3ri never use irc either02:52
prince_jammyskubuntu, that is02:52
spyd3rand im kinda slow tonight02:52
prince_jammysthat's ok02:52
mrunagispyd3r: what are you lost about02:52
spyd3rok well i tried to install mozilla02:52
spyd3rand it opened it up in something called ark02:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:52
spyd3rhow do i install mozilla to the system core02:53
mrunagiall knowing my but!02:53
mrunagispyd3r: sudo apt-get install firefox02:53
therealpxcark is a KDE extraction tool02:53
spyd3rthat will do it for me?02:53
therealpxche probably downloaded a tar.gz file02:53
prince_jammysspyd3r: how did you install mozilla? did you try to get it from the internet?02:53
mrunagiim sure he did02:53
mrunagino need thoguh02:53
spyd3ryea see i dont understand alot of this stuff02:53
mrunagiman i remember when i was new02:53
mrunagi6 months ago02:53
spyd3rok so that command line will do that02:53
mrunagispyd3r: is going to break his xorg, and freak out because it was the end of the world for me02:54
mrunagii was like oh, my, god....02:54
prince_jammysspyd3r: ok.  the way you install most if not all the stuff you want is through something called APT02:54
mrunagii break it daily =)02:54
prince_jammysspyd3r: this is like a central place full of applications for you to download and install automatically02:54
spyd3rnow in one guide it asked me to delete all compiz files for a clean box02:54
spyd3ri went to do this02:54
prince_jammysspyd3r: you do NOT need to go and download stuff form the web02:54
spyd3rand it said i was denied access02:54
mrunagispyd3r: do urself a favor, dont dl from the web alot02:55
prince_jammysspyd3r: hold on02:55
mrunagislow down a littl02:55
Daisuke_Laptopprince_jammys: might want to add a "normally" in there, sometimes it's unavoidable, but rare02:55
mrunagiyoure gonna break it =)02:55
prince_jammysspyd3r: one thing at a time ... compiz first or mozilla02:55
Stoffercan someone please tell me why my external ext2 formatted hard drive is stalling when I try copying files from it onto my pc?02:55
therealpxcxorg can be fixed automatically. don't worry about it02:55
spyd3rivehad to reinstall this damn os 6 times today02:55
mrunagispyd3r: go to the k menu and add/remove programs............go to sources.........enable multivers and universe.............tell me when you are done02:55
mrunagiwhy spyd3r02:56
joe2370"/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libkdeinit_knetworkmanager.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start."  I'm getting this message over and over.  Is knetworkmanager probably broken at the moment?02:56
prince_jammysspyd3r:  Daisuke_Laptop : true, but let's keep it simple02:56
spyd3rbecause i messed something up and had to reformat and partition whole drive02:56
prince_jammysspyd3r: for the moment02:56
mrunagispyd3r: that probably wasnt needed02:56
spyd3rok heres what i need02:56
spyd3rI want it to do the same things beryl does02:56
prince_jammysspyd3r: ok02:56
spyd3rbut i also need to learn how to use this os02:56
spyd3rits for college02:57
prince_jammysspyd3r: ok02:57
spyd3rand i knwo im going to have a hard time with it02:57
prince_jammysspyd3r: in that order?02:57
spyd3rso im jumping on it 3 months early02:57
spyd3ractually to be quite honest02:57
mrunagi!beryl | spyd3r02:57
ubotuspyd3r: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz02:57
spyd3ri need a phone call to guide me through these steps02:57
mrunagispyd3r: heh good luck02:57
spyd3rits easier because im using my windows partition at the moment02:58
mrunagiyou mean you are dual booting02:58
spyd3ri dont know how to do anything in kubuntu yet02:58
spyd3rexcepot mess it up02:58
mrunagineither did i02:58
mrunagispyd3r: do yourself a favor02:58
prince_jammysspyd3r: can you log in to kubuntu?02:58
mrunagiopen a terminal02:58
mrunagikdesudo apt-get install irssi02:58
spyd3ri can but how do i get here02:58
mrunagidid you do it?02:59
prince_jammysspyd3r: ok look you won't be messing anything up.  since you are new to this, do not follow tips and command line stuff from the web02:59
spyd3rim on windows02:59
spyd3ri havent logged out yet02:59
mrunagiwhy not02:59
spyd3rbecause i dunno how to get back to this rom02:59
prince_jammysspyd3r: ok. do you have a user and password for kubuntu?02:59
mrunagikonversation spyd3r02:59
spyd3rand whats room name?03:00
spyd3rif im not back in like 5 minutes03:00
spyd3ri blew my comp up cuz i was pissed03:00
prince_jammysspyd3r: ok you log in to kubuntu and go to #kubuntu.  the irc program you use is called "konversation" and it's the menu with the ....03:00
prince_jammyshe left03:01
mrunagii remember when iw as that clueless03:01
mrunagi5 minutes ago03:01
quocdai_wheree can i download all packages CD for Kubuntu ?03:01
joe2370In 8 minutes he will give up trying to figure out how to use konversation.  In 12 minutes he will be back (but in windows again)03:01
mrunagilol joe237003:02
quocdai_where can i download all packages CD for Kubuntu ?03:03
prince_jammyswhat do you mean?03:03
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience03:03
playstation3come on hlp me please03:03
playstation3Setting up tzdata (2007k-0ubuntu0.7.10) ...03:03
playstation3dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):03:03
playstation3 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1003:03
playstation3Errors were encountered while processing:03:03
playstation3 tzdata03:03
playstation3E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:03
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:03
mrunagi!paste | playstation303:03
ubotuplaystation3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:03
playstation3what do these mean??03:03
quocdai_it mean03:04
joe2370Is there any way to check installed packages for consistency?  I just did an `apt-get upgrade` but got a lot of messages regarding a kde lib that might be broken. :-/03:04
mrunagiit means DONT FLOOD THE CHANNEL!03:04
quocdai_i want to install more package without internet03:04
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:04
quocdai_and i want a CD contain those packages03:05
prince_jammysquocdai_: and you know what the packages are that you want?03:05
quocdai_codec for media03:05
Stoffercan someone please help me figure out why my external ext2 formatted hard drive is stalling when I try copying files from it onto my pc?03:05
spyd3roh dear god i made it back..............03:05
mrunagiquocdai_: do you realize how many cds that would be03:05
mrunagispyd3r: are you on kubuntu now?03:05
prince_jammysspyd3r: welcome back03:05
spyd3rand totally amazed i did something03:06
quocdai_i dont know03:06
mrunagispyd3r: open a terminal and type kdesudo apt-get install irssi03:06
spyd3rhow do i make my resolution bigger i can hardly read03:06
quocdai_maybe one03:06
prince_jammysspyd3r: ok now what is it that you're having trouble with other than compiz?03:06
spyd3rway too small03:06
spyd3ri cantr read03:06
mrunagithe text is too small or too big03:06
spyd3rwell i can03:06
spyd3rjust not too good03:06
quocdai_just some standard needed packages03:06
spyd3rway too small03:06
quocdai_for Offices03:06
mrunagiresolution is too high03:06
mrunagiare you on an lcd?03:07
spyd3rhow do i change it?03:07
prince_jammysspyd3r: there's an item in the "K" menu called system settings --- it's like the windows control panel03:07
StofferI can access files on it, like songs, for only 10 seconds before it cuts me off03:07
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:07
spyd3rhow do i get there03:07
mrunagiwrong factoid03:07
prince_jammysspyd3r: there's a icon on the bottom left with a "K"03:07
prince_jammysspyd3r: that's like the windows start menu03:08
mrunagispyd3r: k menu > system settings > monitor and display03:08
spyd3rit didnt change it03:08
spyd3rits still very small03:08
mrunagiwhat didnt change it03:08
mrunagidid you change the resolution and apply?03:09
spyd3rim in display and monitor03:09
spyd3rand it says it chaged but stayed the same03:09
mrunagidid you hit apply?03:09
prince_jammysspyd3r: change it and save it03:09
spyd3rit asked me if i wanted to keep the settings03:09
spyd3ri said yes03:09
mrunagiwhat is the resolution set at03:09
spyd3runder administration mode?03:09
prince_jammysspyd3r: try that03:09
mrunagishouldnt have to i dont think but u cant ry03:09
joe2370how would one determine the name of the package a particular file belongs to?03:10
mrunagioh i guess so03:10
mrunagididnt change for me either03:10
spyd3rstill nothing03:10
mrunagilooks like spyd3r is about to get his first lesson on editing xorg.conf03:11
mrunagispyd3r: what is the current resolutio03:11
spyd3rim ready03:11
spyd3rbut do it slow03:11
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mrunagii will03:11
mrunagibut answer me03:11
prince_jammysspyd3r: is the resolution done?03:11
spyd3ri have it set to 1024 X76803:11
ubuntudoes kubuntu support my Nvidia BFG 8800GT OC?03:11
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mrunagiwait a second03:11
mrunagi1024 x 768 isnt all that high03:11
prince_jammysspyd3r: ok first about IRC03:11
spyd3rbut it was on 1280X102403:11
mrunagibut it didnt change03:11
mrunagiok cool03:11
spyd3rno it didnt03:11
mrunagiopen a terminal spyd3r03:11
prince_jammysspyd3r: ?03:12
mrunagitype kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:12
mrunagiand mind the capital in X1103:12
spyd3rhold on a sec..........03:12
prince_jammysjoe2370: dammit i have it on the tip of my tongue ... can't remember , ask in #ubuntu03:12
Stofferthis is absurd.  I'm going to have to boot into windows to read an ext2 drive03:13
spyd3rok i did it03:13
spyd3rbut nothing happened03:13
mrunagiwhat do you mean nothing happened03:13
mrunagiyou didnt get a text editor?03:13
spyd3rspyd3r@SpYd3R:~$ kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:13
ubuntudoes kubuntu support my Nvidia BFG 8800GT OC?03:13
mrunagiit didnt ask you for your password?03:14
spyd3rand when it does03:14
spyd3rit usually just does the same thing03:14
mrunagisame thing as what03:14
spyd3rlike itll just say spyd3r@spyd3r03:14
spyd3rwith my cursor03:14
mrunagimaybe try just sudo kate blah blah03:14
spyd3rshould i try to restart??03:14
prince_jammysspyd3r: what are you doing?03:15
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spyd3rtrying to get it so this isnt hurting my eyes03:15
prince_jammyshow do you unignore someone03:15
mrunagispyd3r: did sudo work03:15
ubuntucan someone answer me? its a yes or no...03:15
spyd3ryou ignored me?03:15
mrunagispyd3r: ...........focus03:15
prince_jammysspyd3r: no, i think you are talking to someone else03:15
spyd3rspyd3r@SpYd3R:~$ sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:16
spyd3r[sudo] password for spyd3r:03:16
spyd3ri typed my pass in03:16
spyd3rbut the cursor never moves.........03:16
mrunagicursor wouldnt move03:16
ubuntuspyd3r it never does03:16
prince_jammysspyd3r: it's not supposed to03:16
mrunagiare you sure kate isnt open?03:16
spyd3rjust didnt know if it was accepting it or not03:16
prince_jammysspyd3r: so no one can see how long your password is03:16
ubuntuspyd3r_ it does it blindly03:16
mrunagioh that03:16
spyd3rnothing is open besides this and terminaal03:16
joe2370prince_jammys: fwiw, man dpkg revealed I wanted dpkg -S03:17
mrunagispyd3r: well then i dunno whats going on03:17
spyd3rok let me retry03:17
mrunagigo to K menu > utilities > kate03:17
spyd3rim going to exit terminal03:17
spyd3rand try over03:17
prince_jammysjoe2370: yeah i have that open too, in one of my fifteen windows :)03:17
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joe2370prince_jammys: :-)03:17
spyd3rok its open03:17
ubuntudoes kubuntu support my Nvidia BFG 8800GT OC? anyone know?03:17
prince_jammys!hardware | ubuntu03:18
ubotuubuntu: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection03:18
spyd3rits open03:18
mrunagispyd3r: did it open from the terminal or did u manually open it03:18
prince_jammys!enter | spyd3r03:18
ubotuspyd3r: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:18
mrunagispyd3r: go to open...........and highlight where it says /home/spyd3r and type /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:19
mrunagiand then dont touch anything03:19
spyd3rok i typed it in03:20
spyd3rshould i say open?03:20
mrunagitell me when its open03:20
mrunagiok open a terminal03:20
mrunagi!info irssi03:20
ubotuirssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 2796 kB03:20
ubuntuwhich version of nvidia driver in envy should i use??? nvidia 8800gt, trying to manual install bc it says hardware detection failed or i am not supported?? wtf? help!?03:21
spyd3rhold on phone03:21
mrunagiok tell me when ur back03:21
mrunagiubuntu why do you need envy, whats wrong with restricted drivers03:21
joe2370pierrot: are you the pierrot that did promise raid hacking?03:21
spyd3rok sorry about that03:22
ubuntumrunagi: i have a 8800 gt and i cant find any linux distro that will support it... plus i have dual monitors03:22
mrunagiok did you open a terminal?03:22
spyd3ryes its open03:22
mrunagispyd3r:  type sudo apt-get install irssi03:22
spyd3rok hold on while i type it03:22
mrunagiubuntu if ubuntu is going to support it then its going to, envy doesnt make or break support03:23
mrunagi!envy | ubuntu03:23
ubotuubuntu: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »03:23
spyd3rit didnt do anything03:23
mrunagiis it installing?03:23
mrunagiwhat the heck did you do spyd3r03:23
spyd3ri just typed it in03:24
Rukusmy KDE 3 session wont load. but KDE4 will and Gnome will. any ideas?03:24
spyd3rhol don ill copy paste tp show ya03:24
mrunagiwe are talking about the konsole here right?03:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:24
spyd3rspyd3r@SpYd3R:~$ sudo apt-get install irssi03:24
spyd3r[sudo] password for spyd3r:03:24
mrunagiwell im stumped03:24
spyd3rshell console03:24
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mrunagianyone know why no command run in the konsole does anything for spyd3r03:25
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* not|root blinks03:25
spyd3rmaybe permission settings?03:25
spyd3ri dont know03:25
mrunagisudo gives you root priv03:25
mrunagiit would say permission denied03:25
spyd3rit just did as i copy pasted it03:26
spyd3rshould i try reinstalling kubuntu again?03:26
mrunagishouldnt need to03:26
mrunagii cant imagine why itd do this03:26
spyd3rif it d/led itd show up in terminal right?03:27
spyd3rhow long will u be here mrunagi?03:27
mrunagitill i leave03:27
spyd3rim going to reinstall it03:28
spyd3rthen come back03:28
mrunagiif you wish but if its like this on a fresh install it will be this way next time03:28
spyd3rwill u be here in say 30 minutes?03:28
not|rootlooks like I've upgraded to 2.6.22-14.  Has the local root bug been patched out of that one?03:28
mrunagiive heard alot about this local root bug but havent experienced it03:28
mrunagii thought it was only a problem on a public access computer03:29
spyd3rill be right back mrunagi plz dont go anywhere03:29
not|rootit is a problem anywhere you have an untrusted user03:29
mrunagiim the only one on my pc so i guess its not a problem for me03:29
mrunagi!es | cristian03:29
ubotucristian: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:29
not|rootBut I can imagine it would be possible for a malicious website to exploit the bug, but I haven't heard anyone else saying this.03:30
mrunaginot|root: thats what im saying, my understanding is that it cant be exploited remotely03:30
Rukusmy KDE 3 session wont load. but KDE4 will and Gnome will. any ideas?03:30
mrunagiyou can run kde 3 and 4 side by side?03:31
mrunagii might give that a try03:31
sakiI smell...newb03:31
Rukusjust clutters your menus03:31
not|rootmrunagi: what I mean is that if there is a bug in flash or acroread or firefox that lets arbitrary code run, then the first code they'll try is the local root exploit.03:31
Rukusi run gnome, KDE 4 and KDE 3 together03:31
Stofferwhat's a good hard disk diagnostic app that I can run on an external usb drive?03:31
playstation3How can i solve this error ? ??? "" dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): """03:31
mrunaginot|root: how can i see if i have this bug03:32
mrunagiStoffer: for ntfs?03:32
not|rootmrunagi: you can try running the exploit code.03:32
mrunagihow would i do that not|root03:32
not|rootmrunagi: it was linked to slashdot.  though I'm sure a quick google search will turn it up.  just compile and run as user.  works like sudo -s03:33
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not|rootbut with no password required03:33
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mrunagiwhats up03:34
spyd3rbefore i reinstall what file format should i use?03:34
sakiHeh, go ReiserFS03:34
sakibe a man03:34
spyd3rhold on03:35
not|rootext3 is not a file format.  It is a filesystem.03:35
spyd3rim installing now03:35
mrunagiim sure thats what he meant not|root03:35
spyd3rok lemme install it again.......03:35
mrunagiif you wish spyd3r03:35
spyd3ri need this to work03:36
mrunagii know but you arent listening to me03:36
mrunagithis is a freshly installed kubuntu right?03:36
not|rootIs there a compelling reason not to just run `apt-get update && apt-get upgrade` in a cron job?03:36
spyd3rno i had been screwin with it for a few hours03:37
spyd3rso im going to give myself a fresh one03:37
sakiNot|Root: Not really.03:37
spyd3rbe back in a few03:37
not|rootI guess sometimes package updates have interactive portions.  Maybe that's the reason.03:38
sakiMaybe I should use packages more often.03:38
not|rootheh heh. `apt-get update && yes | apt-get upgrade`03:39
sakiSomething about compiling makes me feel...manly.03:39
not|rootsaki: tried gentoo?03:40
Stofferif e2fsck returns "Resize inode not valid.  Recreate<y>?"  what does that mean?03:40
not|rootStoffer: it means you have filesystem corruption and it is offering to fix it.03:40
sakinot|root: Actually thats what I run on my server.03:40
Stoffernot|root, how would that happen, and will I lose any data by allowing it?03:41
not|rootStoffer: if there was any data loss, it has already happened.  e2fsck is pretty good about knowing what it is doing.  If you want to do a dd backup of the filesystem before attempting to fix, now would be the time.  But minor errors are normal like when a program closed abnormally with open files.03:42
Stoffernot|root, how would I do that backup, just in case?03:43
Stoffernot|root, I have this 80gb drive filled with stuff I don't want to lose03:43
not|rootStoffer: if it were a production server, you would restore from backups.  but if it is a desktop, just apply the fix.03:43
* mrunagi laughs at people that backup when there is a problem03:43
spyd3rwell i figured id get kicked out by now lol03:43
* mrunagi sits back in his corner03:43
spyd3rbut its 61%03:43
mrunagi61% of what spyd3r03:43
not|rootStoffer: what command did you run to get this message?03:44
spyd3rinstalling system03:44
mikilol compile kde4 from svn...4 hours03:44
spyd3rim on my live cd at the moment03:44
Stoffernot|root, e2fsck -v03:44
Stoffernot|root, /dev/sda103:44
mrunagiwere u on the live cd the whole time?03:44
draikUSB 2.0 transfer rate is no more than 700 kB/s (low-mid 600s average). How do I find what's causing this lag?03:44
spyd3rwhen i logged out b403:44
sakiMiki: What proc?03:44
spyd3ryes ive been on it for about 5 minutes now03:44
mrunagii never saw you log out03:44
spyd3ri was on the actual os for a bit there03:45
sakiWhat processor are you running?03:45
spyd3rbut i logged out to reinstall remember03:45
WayfarerStill no sound03:45
Wayfarerany ideas?03:45
spyd3rwhe i came back03:45
miki1.8 amd03:45
mrunagiintel 900903:45
not|rootStoffer: an inode refers to a single file, IIRC.  So at worst you will lose one file.  But the resize is ominous IIF you recently resized the fs.03:45
spyd3ri was on live cd03:45
sakiI wonder how long it would take on mine >.>03:45
Stoffernot|root, ok i'll just let it go and see what happens03:45
saki2.66Ghz Intel Core 2 Quad03:45
mikibut i can tell that kde4 looks great ....works realy fast03:46
spyd3rbut you can help me get the compiz-fusion to work right?03:46
WayfarerKubuntu- Intel HDA03:46
sakiStill feels...off to me.03:46
mrunagiim running kubuntu on an intel 4004 processor how hardcore am i03:46
mrunagispyd3r: one step at a time man03:46
mrunagiwhere do you go to school spyd3r03:46
spyd3rim running on an amd dual core athlon 64 5600+03:46
mikisaki: second pc Q6600 4G ram 8800 ultra but no kde403:46
not|rootStoffer: shouldn't be anything to wory about03:46
spyd3rkaplan university03:47
mrunagiwheres that03:47
spyd3rits internet based03:47
sakiMiki: Windows machine?03:47
spyd3rits a real college03:47
sakifor gaming.03:47
spyd3rthey have schools all over the us03:47
mikino linux but gutsy03:47
mikii don't play games...03:48
spyd3rim going fo rmy degree in info tech03:48
spyd3rand comp programming03:48
mrunagii was considering information technology, im going to go with computer engineering instead03:48
sakiMiki: Whats the point in an 8800 Ultra then?03:48
spyd3rafter i get my bs degree im going for graphics design and integration03:49
sakiThats just stupid use of resources for not playing games.03:49
mikifor speed ....03:49
spyd3ri wanna make video games03:49
mrunagispeed for WHAT?03:49
mikipc ..03:49
mrunagispyd3r: graphics design is more web pages and crap03:49
sakiUmm...you can composite at the same speed on a friggin 780003:49
not|rootiD games invariably run on linux03:49
mrunagimiki your video card has nothing to do with your pcs speed03:49
spyd3rgraphics design using x frame modelling03:49
mrunagiif you wanna waste your money miki help my buy a car03:49
spyd3rand texture design?03:49
mrunagispyd3r: that may be a small part of the course, but graphics design is mainly 2d work03:50
mikimrunagi: what can i put in gigabyte p-35 dq 6 ati 9200?03:50
spyd3rnot what im gettin into03:50
sakimrunagi: Umm...no it isn't.03:50
mrunagisaki: ok im just a stupid college grad03:50
mrunagisaki: my bad03:50
spyd3rim hopin i can get on with blizzard03:50
sakiI'm an ex-graphics design student who took a specialization in animation.03:50
sakiI did more 3D work than 2D03:51
mrunagispyd3r: are you just getting your certificate from that school?03:51
spyd3rim getting a bachelors03:51
WayfarerI'm going to sleep03:51
Wayfarerto dream of sound03:51
WayfarerStupid HP dv970003:51
mrunagii dont see bs in information tech03:51
mrunagioh there it is03:52
mrunagihow much is that costing you03:52
spyd3raround 4300 a term03:52
sakiNot bad at all.03:52
mrunagiout of state tuition03:52
sakispyd3r: USD?03:52
sakiFirst year of college, 16kUSD03:53
spyd3rok install is done03:53
spyd3rill be right back03:53
spyd3rneed to restart03:53
mrunagisaki: where03:53
sakiArt Institute of Chicago03:54
mrunagithats about how much it cost me for my aninmation degree03:54
mrunagiplus living expenses03:54
mrunagigod am i paying for it now....03:54
saki16k all together or per year?03:54
mrunagithe associate was 3203:54
mrunagiso 16 a year03:54
mrunagii took out way too much for living =(03:54
sakiYeah, when I go back to college this Fall I should be paying 8k a year.03:55
sakibut then again I switched majors.03:55
mrunagiim hoping to make it in for summer semester.........and get in state status03:56
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE03:56
mrunagii lived in fl for 3 years i deserve in state03:56
mrunagithen itll be 4k for the degree instead of 17k03:56
mrunagimaybe i could go back to school somewhere else and get my bachelors03:57
playstation3what is the uninstall commmand?04:00
stunatrasudo apt-get remove04:01
sakisudo rm /* >.>04:01
sakiJust playing04:01
stunatraor is it uninstall? I forget04:01
stunatraone of those is right04:01
sakiIts remove04:01
* stunatra takes note, go with your first guess 04:01
spyd3rok im back :P04:02
spyd3rmrunagi are you still there?04:03
spyd3rsaki are you any good with setting kubuntu up?04:04
sakiWhat type of question is that?04:04
spyd3rim a total noob lol04:04
spyd3rwith no ide of what to do04:04
sakiOkay, you have the OS installed?04:04
spyd3ri got a fresh install yes04:04
sakiGo grab Automatix04:04
spyd3rit says i have restricted drivers available04:04
sakiYes, those would help too, but grab Automatix first, it'll install them as well.04:05
spyd3rhow do i do that?04:05
Stoffernot|root, Deleted inode 7841 has zero dtime.  Fix<y>?04:05
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »04:05
spyd3rummm i need stuff thats easy to do04:05
sakiI suggest Automatix04:05
spyd3ri know how to use the terminal04:05
spyd3rahhh crap04:06
sakiand then just follow the instructions.04:06
spyd3ri cant be jumpin everywhere04:06
spyd3ri dont even know how to install on this os04:06
sakio.O You are not one with the OS04:06
spyd3rnot at all04:06
sakiTo install use Adept04:07
spyd3rgimme windows and ill run circles around most people04:07
spyd3rno clue04:07
spyd3rits an alien04:07
sakiKMenu -> System -> Adept Manager04:07
sakiThat'll install most basic things.04:07
sakiFor the more complex you'll need to self compile them.04:07
spyd3rok its open04:07
spyd3rnow what04:07
sakiWell, what do you want to install?04:07
sakiClick the Refresh button at the top.04:08
spyd3rumm i want to do the compiz-fusion set up04:08
spyd3ri want the cube04:08
spyd3rand i need firefox04:08
sakiAlright search for Firefox through the search option.04:08
spyd3rand to set my screen res back down04:08
spyd3rok now which one04:09
spyd3rtheres a lot of options04:09
sakiFind the Firefox
sakiRight click -> Install04:09
sakithen click apply04:09
spyd3ri dont see firefox
spyd3rtheres a 3.0?04:10
sakiIts beta04:10
sakidon't install unless you want to deal with beta04:10
spyd3rooh found it04:10
spyd3rnow what do i do again?04:10
sakiRight Click -> Install04:11
sakithen click apply at the top.04:11
* Stoffer 's hard drive must really be corrupted... fsck is having a field day04:11
spyd3rgotta give it a sec04:11
spyd3rmy roomies are torrenting04:11
spyd3rbandwidth is getting sucked up04:11
sakiMan screw that04:12
sakiDo you have a router?04:12
spyd3rbut they all pitch in for the service with me04:12
sakiThrow DD-WRT on that and do a bandwidth restriction04:12
spyd3rso i cant just boot em04:12
sakiYes...exactly. You're not booting them.04:12
spyd3ra what?04:12
sakiYou're keeping your slice of the pie.04:12
mrunagi_oh my bad spyd3r04:12
mrunagi_you done?04:12
spyd3ri dont know how to do that04:12
spyd3ryea im installing firefox now04:13
Stofferis it ok to quit fsck in the middle of a scan, as long as it's stopped to ask you for a yes or no?  I just wanna restart it with a flag that'll fix all problems automatically04:13
mrunagi_so the terminal works?04:13
spyd3rnot sure04:13
mrunagi_hows your resolution?04:13
spyd3rsaki has me d/ling it through adept manager04:13
sakiKmenu -> System -> Terminal04:13
sakiyeah, might as well keep him GUI for now04:13
sakiWindows spoils people.04:13
spyd3rok i got firefox04:14
mrunagi_maybe saki he wasnt able to change his resolution, im not either so i was going to give his first xorg.conf lesson :D04:14
spyd3ri need to figure out how to fix my resolution now04:14
sakiWhats wrong with it?04:14
mrunagi_too high04:14
sakiCan't you fix it through kcontrol?04:14
mrunagi_it doesnt change04:14
mrunagi_i was gonna have him do it in x04:14
spyd3rno its not working throug k control04:15
spyd3rim in konsole04:15
sakiWhat video card/monitor do you have?04:15
mrunagi_geforce go 7400 for me04:15
spyd3rim usin a geforce 6100 card04:15
spyd3rok btw mrunagi it said i have restricted drivers available04:16
mrunagi_enable them04:16
sakiYeah, he should install them.04:16
mrunagi_click the icon04:16
mrunagi_cmon man youre killing me04:16
spyd3rwhat icon?04:16
mrunagi_ok k menu > settings > advanved> restricted04:17
mrunagi_click the administrator button and then check the boxes04:17
spyd3ri dont see advanced in the menu04:17
mrunagi_its not in a menu04:18
mrunagi_its a button04:18
mrunagi_er tab04:18
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mrunagi_at the top04:18
spyd3rsystem settings?04:18
mrunagi_then the advanced tab04:18
spyd3rk i clicked on restricted04:18
spyd3rok its downloading04:19
spyd3rtheres only one04:19
spyd3rim sorry if im being a pain04:19
spyd3rim just slowly trying to understand this os04:19
spyd3rbeen using windows all my life04:19
mrunagi_i have too04:20
mrunagi_do i sound knowledgeable?04:20
spyd3roh kool i thought u got kicked04:20
spyd3ryes actually04:20
sakiYou really should have been dropped into a real version of linux04:20
sakinot linux for noobies04:20
spyd3rwhats wrong with ubuntu?04:20
mrunagi_its linux for noobies...04:21
spyd3rit says i need a restart04:21
mrunagi_better hurry!04:21
spyd3rshould i do that now04:21
mrunagi_if u dont kubuntu crashes04:21
sakiExactly...which as bad as it sounds, you're not learning Linux, your learning (K)Ubuntu04:21
spyd3ror wait and do more before i restart04:21
spyd3rthis is what the school is teaching us04:21
mrunagi_saki: hrm.............what do you mean by that04:21
Stofferany ideas why "Inode 16386, i_blocks is 141648, should be 133456.  Fix<y>? yes" would be taking and incredibly long time?04:22
sakiExactly what it sounds like I mean.04:22
spyd3rill restart brb04:22
mrunagi_what part of sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart isnt linux04:22
mrunagi_or sudo ./configure && make && make install04:22
sakiUmm...the package system, the friendly installer, the way that it automatically updates04:22
sakiand you don't have to do any of that04:23
Stoffermrunagi_, if you want to learn Linux, start with Gentoo   -  but if you want to Use Linux, kubuntu's fine04:23
sakiGentoo is awesome04:23
playstation3how can i fix tzdata error ? londonhack does not work04:23
mrunagi_to tell you the truth, i was attracted to linux because of beryl, i chose to use linux because of apple shake04:23
sakiand I use it quite fine04:23
playstation3i cant install anything04:23
StofferI just don't have the time to get gentoo working .... that and I kept breaking it04:23
playstation3help help help help04:23
spyd3rok im back04:24
mrunagi_ok now what04:24
mrunagi_your resolution04:24
sakiPlaystation3: Whats it saying when you try to install something?04:24
mrunagi_um..........open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install irssi04:24
spyd3rkcmshell-session needs admin priveledges its askin for a pass?04:24
mrunagi_what the heck man04:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kcmshell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:24
spyd3ri just gave it the pass anyway04:25
spyd3ri dunno wat it was04:25
mrunagi_dont do that04:25
spyd3rbut w/e04:25
mrunagi_you really are a windows user =(04:25
spyd3rkde sudo was what brought it up04:25
mrunagi_i dunno whatever its fine04:25
mrunagi_did you isntall irssi04:25
spyd3rno give me the command prompt again04:26
sakiWhy on earth are you wanting him to use irssi?04:26
mrunagi_same as last time?04:26
playstation3dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):04:26
mrunagi_in case x doesnt start04:26
playstation3subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1004:26
sakiBitchX to the rescue04:26
mrunagi_otherwise hes gonna reinstall =)04:26
mrunagi_whats the difference saki04:26
playstation3E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:26
sakiAbsolutely nothing, really04:26
mrunagi_rather whats the advantage of bitch to irssi04:26
* Stoffer wants all applications to have a "super-verbose" option04:26
sakiI'm just in a mood, so I'm giving you a hard time04:27
mrunagi_a bitchx mood?04:27
playstation3googled these , tried a lot of command including uninstalling tzdata but no chance , i cant even uninstall tzdata04:27
sakiThat was horrible.04:27
mrunagi_oh cmon04:27
mrunagi_it was clever04:27
sakiIf you were in my office I would have slapt you.04:27
spyd3rok when i type my pass in just hit enter right?04:27
mrunagi_i would have liked it04:27
mrunagi_yes spyd3r04:27
spyd3rit installed04:27
mrunagi_ok cool04:28
mrunagi_kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:28
sakiI wonder if Empire at War would run better under linux than vista...04:28
mrunagi_tell me when its open04:28
ubotuvista is the new 'operating system' by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows04:28
spyd3rhold on04:28
spyd3rit says its got 1 minute left on d/l04:28
playstation3i think this comand fuckd up my kubuntu " sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2; wget -N boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/getlibs-all.deb; wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu; sudo dpkg -i getlibs-all.deb; sudo dpkg -i --force-all skype-install.deb; sudo getlibs /usr/bin/skype "04:28
sakiAlso, more developers need to support 64-bit with loving imbraces because I need to use my full 8gb of RAM04:28
mrunagi_!ohmy | playstation304:28
ubotuplaystation3: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.04:28
playstation3actually i cant run skype04:28
spyd3rthanx so much guys for taking time out of your day to help me04:29
spyd3ri really appreciate it04:29
DracoI've looked about everywhere, what runlevel does NetworkManager start as?04:29
mrunagi_spyd3r: is it open04:29
Dracoor does it go around sysv init somehow?04:29
spyd3rnot yet04:29
sakiMeh, have fun, I'm just drinking coffee, kicked back at my desk doing a little bit of programming for a portfolio.04:29
spyd3rthe last thing the irssi is still d/ling almost done04:29
playstation3nobody loves me :(04:29
sakispyd3r: I'm telling you, put a QoS system on your router04:29
Dracoif so, what do I need to do to disable it? it locks my network card04:30
sakiIts not fair if your roomies are bandwidth hogs and you're all paying equally.04:30
sakiTrust me, I went through a year with some bandwidth hogs04:30
spyd3ris it sposed to say that?04:30
sakiand its...garbage04:30
spyd3ri got like 3 errors04:31
spyd3rbut it opened xorg04:31
mrunagi_u did sudo04:32
mrunagi_which is fine but get use to kdesudo04:32
spyd3rheres what happened04:32
mrunagi_i knoow04:32
mrunagi_udi crap04:32
mrunagi_kdecache and tmp04:32
spyd3rspyd3r@spyd3r-desktop:~$ kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:32
spyd3rError: "/var/tmp/kdecache-spyd3r" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.04:32
spyd3rError: "/tmp/kde-spyd3r" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.04:32
spyd3rError: "/tmp/ksocket-spyd3r" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.04:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:32
spyd3rok now what?04:33
mrunagi_interesting that it did that for you on kdesudo..........anyway its ok...........so xorg.conf is open right?04:33
spyd3rxorg.config is open04:33
mrunagi_ctrl + f and type 1024 and enter04:33
mrunagi_tell me what the line is that contains that04:33
spyd3rnot found04:33
mrunagi_what the deuce04:33
spyd3rtext to find right?04:34
mrunagi_spyd3r: go to pastebin.org and paste your xorg there i wanna see it04:34
stansmithhey did yall see that new p diddy makin the band?04:34
spyd3rhow do i do that?04:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:34
spyd3rhow do i use paste bin04:34
stansmith!paste | spyd3r04:34
ubotuspyd3r: please see above04:34
spyd3r# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)04:35
spyd3r# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using04:35
spyd3r# values from the debconf database.04:35
mrunagi_no no no!04:35
mrunagi_you are going to have to be brighter than that04:35
mrunagi_youre gonna be banned in a heartbeat04:35
mrunagi_READ! son READ!04:35
mrunagi_!paste | spyd3r04:35
ubotuspyd3r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:35
spyd3rhow do i use it!!04:35
mrunagi_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ!04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about read! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:35
mrunagi_omg lol04:35
mrunagi_i tripped the bot lol04:35
* stansmith casts lvl 3 read on spyd3r 04:35
* stansmith + 3xp04:36
mrunagi_lol stansmith04:36
stansmithill stop04:36
mrunagi_no no by all means........its funny04:36
* mrunagi_ laughs out loud for real04:36
mrunagi_by george hes got it!04:36
spyd3rstill wasnt as fun as when i pasted it directly04:37
mrunagi_yea like i said, dont do that04:37
spyd3ri almost jumped outta my seat lol04:37
stansmithwhat is spyd3r even tryin to do?04:37
mrunagi_unless you wanna be left without fun04:37
mrunagi_lower the resolution stansmith xcontrol wouldnt do it04:37
mrunagi_spyd3r: listen closely ok?04:38
mrunagi_if you ever get into a problem where X wont load 'the graphical screen you are looking at' and you are left with the terminal in your face04:38
spyd3rbtw I haven't done my updates yet either04:38
mrunagi_i want you to type............irssi..............then type...........connect irc.freenode.com04:38
mrunagi_that brings you back here with the command line04:39
spyd3rok lemme write that down04:39
mrunagi_it is your lifeline in the 'i dont know what the hell im doing' world04:39
* mrunagi_ giggles04:39
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spyd3rthats all the time04:39
spyd3rshoot im about to go smoke a bowl here soon04:40
spyd3rso its about to get real fun04:40
stansmitho spyd3r04:40
mrunagibut yea dont say that crap here spyd3r04:40
spyd3rbad eyes remember04:40
spyd3rim legal for it04:40
mrunagiyoure gonna get banned in no time i can see it04:40
Rukusif anyone cares to know, its apparently a recent well known bug, that if you update langauge packs, your KDE desktop may not load. thats why mine wasn't i had to choose US english as my language and had to sudo dpkg -r language-pack-kde-en-base language-pack-kde-en  to fix the problem04:40
stansmithhe gonna go back to where he came from04:41
* stansmith uses fluxbox04:41
spyd3ri have a license to have it in my possession and in my system04:41
mrunagiok spyd3r under defaultdepth 24 i want you to paste in something ok?04:41
spyd3rhold on04:41
spyd3ri have no idea where that is04:41
mrunagictrl + f04:41
mrunagitype defaultdepth04:42
mrunagiSubSection "Display" Modes"1024x768" EndSubSection04:42
spyd3rsaid it couldnt be found04:42
mrunagiits lying04:42
spyd3rlemme look for it manually04:42
spyd3rwhere is it near?04:42
mrunagiignore what i just pasted04:42
mrunagiits line04:42
mrunagiline 8304:43
mrunagi17 lines from the bottom04:43
spyd3rfound it04:43
spyd3rhas a 24 next to it right?04:43
mrunagii want you to add a new line under it04:43
spyd3rok just press enter after the 24?04:43
mrunagiand type.......word for word and including any quotes04:43
stansmithwait, i dont even  use ubuntu, or kde, am i allowed in here?04:43
mrunagiyes just push enter04:44
mrunagiyes stansmith youre good people04:44
mrunagiand type.......word for word and including any quotes spyd3r04:44
mrunagiSubSection "Display"04:44
spyd3rokie dokie04:44
mrunagithen push enter and put in04:44
mrunagithen push enter and put in EndSubSection04:44
mrunagilet me know when you are done04:44
spyd3rthats all?04:45
mrunagiyoure done?04:45
mrunagidid you do it spyd3r?04:45
spyd3rSubSection "Display"04:45
spyd3rSection "ServerLayout"04:45
mrunagiDONT DO THAT!04:45
spyd3rit wasnt big?04:45
mrunagianything more than 1 line is big04:45
stdin!paste > spyd3r04:46
mrunagiis he silenced or is he gone04:46
spyd3rim sorry im still getting used to this..........04:46
fignewstdin: like the wind!04:46
mrunagispyd3r: dude you have to listen to people04:46
mrunagidont paste larger posts meaning if its more than 1 line use paste bin04:46
mrunagidont swear dont talk about sex or drugs04:46
spyd3rI didnt know by doing that it was a problem04:46
mrunagii told you before it was.........04:46
fignewspyd3r: don't sweat it :)04:47
mrunagiif you arent careful youll be banned =/04:47
spyd3r5 lines of text04:47
spyd3ris not spamming or flooding........04:47
fignew6 ;)04:47
mrunagito you04:47
spyd3ri can understand if i did it repeatedly04:47
* stansmith shrugs04:47
mrunagito the ops it is04:47
spyd3rin miliseconds........04:47
* mrunagi is almost done helping04:47
stdinspyd3r: 3 or more = pastebin04:47
spyd3rif your just going to get mad then ill uninstall it and clear my partitions............im just trying to set this up and looking for help04:48
mrunagispyd3r: im not mad lol04:48
spyd3rim sorry im newi dont understand the rules at all04:48
mrunagihey man its cool......i didnt know them either ive been banned 5 times =)04:48
spyd3ris that how u wanted it done?04:48
stdinyou were asked multiple times to use the pastebin, hopefully a temporary +q got your attention ;)04:48
mrunagimostly for things i didnt think was against o4o but if the ops say more than 3 lines is flooding..........then it is04:48
spyd3ri didnt know that04:49
spyd3ru said large files04:49
mrunagianyways spyd3r save and close that document04:49
mrunagitell me when you did04:49
spyd3rany other messenger or chat service doesnt do that04:49
mrunagidont worry about it my man its over with =)04:49
spyd3rnow what04:49
mrunaginow you have to restart X04:49
spyd3rrestart my system?04:50
mrunagiremember what i told you to type in case X doesnt start04:50
mrunagirestart X server........04:50
spyd3rhow do i do that?04:50
mrunagictrl + alt + backspace04:50
mrunagigodspeed =)04:50
mrunagii hope he didnt misplace a period04:50
mrunagiwe all have to learn the hard way though right?04:50
mrunagithe first time i screwed up xorg i was in hawaii, and the only person that knew how to fix it just quit........i was devastated =)04:51
mrunagihrm.......hes not back yet lol04:52
stansmithi heard there is this new book about X11 that just came out04:52
stansmithits pretty good from the review i read04:53
mrunagiim not too good at it myself04:53
mrunagimost of it doesnt make sense to me04:53
stansmithyea, i wish i could tighten up my xorg.conf instead of the default04:53
mrunagisad considering i edit my xorg alot04:53
mrunagiok hes taking a long time, something must be wrong lol04:54
stansmithhe is probably installing vista right now04:54
mrunagilol he already has it installed04:54
mrunagii told him how to use irssi in case something went wrong....04:54
stansmithwhy not just make a back up04:55
mrunagihe wouldnt know how to cp04:55
stansmitho jeez04:55
mrunagii guess i could have told him to make a backup first04:56
mrunagikubuntu does it anyway04:56
mrunagihope he doesnt write over it lol04:56
stansmithi mean, i was like that once04:56
mrunagime too lol04:56
stansmithbut i never came in IRC, cause i didnt know how to04:56
mrunagiwhen i first started, when x didnt start i was devastated.......04:56
mrunagiso i reformatted lol04:56
mrunagiits funny to me now..........but back then.....04:57
stansmithyou really have to want to learn it04:57
mrunagi lol ok something is definately wrong here =)04:58
mrunagiif he cant run irssi i sure hope hes loading the livecd04:58
mrunagibtw.......dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages ............best command ever!04:59
stansmithwhat does that do?04:59
* stansmith uses pacman04:59
mrunagiit takes your dpk selections and puts it in a text file..........so when you reinstall you can do one command to install everything05:00
stansmitho...i used to do something similiar05:00
mrunagiid like to make my own customized kubuntu installation..........but it looks complicated05:01
mrunagihow long do i wait for spyd3r before i realize he isnt coming back05:02
stansmithyou dont05:02
mrunagii possibly broke the poor mans pc lol05:02
mrunagii just had him enter a simple entry.....05:03
mrunagigiven i could have had him pastebin his xorg after the entry.........but whatever lol05:03
stansmithwell..i was wondering how you knew if he had irssi or not05:03
mrunagii had him install it05:03
StrangeletI am attempting to compile a simple window decoration using ./configure --prefix=$(kde-config --prefix), I get an error message. checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! I assume I need to reDL the packages, but I do not know what to DL. What should I do?05:04
mrunagihes back05:04
spyd3r3yea on widows05:04
mrunagilol stansmith i lost your bet05:05
spyd3r3it gave me the terminal05:05
mrunagiand why didnt you log into irssi05:05
spyd3r3i typed what u wanted but it didnt work05:05
spyd3r3i tried05:05
mrunagiwhat did it say05:05
spyd3r3you didnt tell me how to get into the room05:05
spyd3r3it just sat there with status and a blinking cursor05:05
mrunagiooooooooooooh irssi doesnt automatically enter #kubuntu05:05
mrunagimy bad05:05
stansmithStrangelet, you want the xlib05:05
spyd3r3i tried to relog into kubuntu twice05:05
mrunagi'/j #kubuntu05:05
spyd3r3and it gave me the same screen05:05
spyd3r3the os wont load now........05:06
mrunagiit did connect right?05:06
mrunagino no spyd3r3 the os is loading, X isnt05:06
spyd3r3so how do i fix this?05:06
stansmithStrangelet, xorg-dev05:06
stansmithor libx-dev05:06
mrunagisudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo killall -HUO kdm05:06
spyd3r3ok do it again without errors05:07
stansmiththe man comes back on windows05:07
mrunagisudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo killall -HUP kdm05:07
spyd3r3space after the cp?05:07
mrunagicp = copy05:07
mrunagimv = move, mkdir = make dir, rm = remove05:07
mrunagido NOT mistake rm for rename.............i learned that lesson05:08
mrunagiyoull learn quick05:08
spyd3r3ok ill be back05:08
spyd3r3im going to try and reload it05:08
=== krwk is now known as krawek
mrunagiso yea spyd3r is going to school for information technology.........05:09
mrunagiim thinking i should go for the same........if hes that........um...........ignorant?05:09
stansmithhe prob hasnt taken a real course yet05:10
mrunagiand i mean that in the least harsh sense05:10
stansmithhe might be doing the english or math right now05:10
mrunagiwell he said he learns linux in 3 months05:10
stansmithlol..you dont really learn linux in school05:10
mrunagimaybe...........but i havent had formal computer training or education, just my parents business i have been around for 22 years05:10
mrunagiso maybe i have a good head start to a computer engineering degree05:11
hitmanWillyyou learn linux by using it, not in school :)05:11
mrunagiid like to get mcse certified and then after working for a while get my ccsn05:11
stansmithyou might learn about it..05:11
mrunagihey man im just telling you what he said lol05:11
stansmithbut at the time when they say "cat [file] lets you read a file" your like wtf, why would i want to do that05:12
mrunagiim desperately trying to get a job and best buy and circuit city would be stupid not to hire me05:12
stansmiththose jobs are weak05:12
mrunagii have no job05:12
mrunagiand 800/mo in student loans05:12
stansmithhow old are you05:12
mrunagiill take it05:12
stansmithi misunderstood what you said earlier05:13
mrunagiim trying to go back to school, but im homeless jobless and carless so im in trouble05:13
stansmitho...so where are you right now then?05:13
mrunagiif you asked me 3 weeks ago..........in my car.........05:13
Strangeletchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! Methinks I have to reDL Qt packages, what would I need for this? In addition, in which package could I find "libjpeg"?05:13
mrunagibut american express lowered my limit so i had to ask my paretns for help05:13
mrunagiim out of here as soon as i can.........i had to sell my car05:14
stansmithStrangelet, get the qt lib libraries05:14
stansmithand the -dev05:14
stansmithlibqt maybe, but im just guessing05:14
mrunagiive only used cat for 2 things stansmith.............for a script in gnome and to gget my cpu info05:14
stansmithi use it a lot, but i try to use the command line more05:15
stansmitho snap05:15
mrunagiim going to attempt to install osx on here05:15
spyd3rdidnt work05:15
mrunagispyd3r: where are u right now05:15
spyd3rit said file could not be created05:15
spyd3rno windows again05:15
stansmithdidnt type sudo05:15
spyd3ri did type sudo05:15
mrunagiduuuude you need to use irssi05:15
mrunagithis will go much smoother05:15
spyd3ri dont know how to05:15
mrunagii told you earlier lol05:16
spyd3rgive me the commands for irssi again05:16
spyd3rill try05:16
mrunagiirssi then /connect irc.freenode.com then /j #kubuntu05:16
mrunagilemme make sure thats right05:16
stansmithStrangelet, why is diddy walkin with a cane?05:16
mrunagi_its right05:16
raomanguys, i need help with my kubuntu gutsy.- my adept manager got stuck.im not able to use it....05:17
spyd3ri dont need to register a nick or anything?05:17
stansmithgood luck spyd3r05:17
mrunagino.........its the same as what ur on now and konversation, just command based05:17
spyd3rok ill try it again05:17
* mrunagi shutters at the stress of rebooting is doing to this poor pc05:17
mrunagiyes..........stress............the jolt of voltage each restart05:17
stansmithsoftboots arent that stressful05:18
mrunagihrm perhaps05:18
mrunagii suppose i shouldnt go up to an AT case and keep pushing the restart button over and over and over and over and over and over05:18
mrunagiand over05:18
mrunagior maybe i should just to see what happens =)05:18
stansmithshutdown -r now?05:18
mrunagilol i just push the power button and alt + t05:19
mrunagidoes that make me less l33705:19
mrunagiin irssi now spyder?05:19
stansmithspyd3r, LOL05:19
mrunagiok great05:19
spyd3rdont laugh dude im pissed as hell................05:19
stansmithyour learning how to use irssi!05:20
mrunagibecause your xorg is broken?05:20
spyd3ri just want it to work05:20
mrunagilinux never JUST works my man05:20
mrunagithats windows mindset05:20
mrunagitheres a tradeoff for everything05:20
mrunagianyway........alt + right arrow will take you to another vritual terminal05:20
mrunagifrom there alt + left brings you back to irssi05:20
mrunagistill with me?05:21
stansmithomg sorry05:21
mrunagiok go to another virtual terminal and type in sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:21
mrunagitell me what it says05:21
spyd3rok holod on05:21
mrunagilog in first of course05:21
mrunagii could be playing nexius right now05:22
mrunagii havent played open arena all that much05:22
stansmithi should be asleep05:22
mrunagiwhy arent u05:23
spyd3rit didnt say anything05:23
stansmithi <3 the linux05:23
michael__could anyone out there help me with mencoder?05:24
mrunagimeans it completed successfully05:24
mrunaginow type sudo killall -HUP kdm05:24
spyd3rok now what?05:24
mrunagishould start x05:24
mrunagimust have worked05:25
spyd3r_ok im back on desktop05:26
spyd3r_but i have a question05:26
mrunagii dunno what you did to break it05:26
mrunagiwhats up05:26
spyd3r_i got a window05:26
spyd3r_it says05:26
spyd3r_information - kde sudo05:26
spyd3r_no command arguments supplied05:26
mrunagiwell u get that when you type kdesudo and nothing else05:26
mrunagiwhy youre getting it now........dunno........its cool.........unless it keeps happening05:27
spyd3r_usage: kdesudo {-u <runas>} <command>05:27
spyd3r_kdesudo will now exit05:27
mrunagilol thats borderline flooding ;)05:27
spyd3r_3rd time so far05:27
mrunagisounds to me like for some reason you have kdesudo running at startup05:27
spyd3r_it was a frsh install happened after i rebooted after i allowed restricted drivers05:28
mrunagimake another user log in and see if it does it05:28
spyd3r_remember that pass thingy i mentioned earlier05:28
spyd3r_it happened again05:28
spyd3r_im fine lets just continue05:29
spyd3r_i want this done05:29
spyd3r_nvm the resolution05:29
spyd3r_ill figure it out some other time05:29
mrunagiyou could dpkg reconfigure and add the resolution you want05:29
spyd3r_ok how do i do that05:29
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:29
mrunagitheres ur link to help resolution05:30
spyd3r_ok how do i get the cube effect and fusion stuff to work like beryl05:30
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion05:30
spyd3r_so u wont guide me anymore?05:31
mrunagianything i guide you with is going to be in that link05:31
spyd3r_ok so just do everything those say right?05:31
spyd3r_do you use yahoo mrunagi?05:32
spyd3r_whats your yahoo name?05:32
spyd3r_ok thaNX MAN05:33
spyd3r_IM GOING TO GO FOR NOW05:33
spyd3r_oops sorry for caps05:33
spyd3r_hey mrunagi?05:43
spyd3r_well i got the resolution down05:44
spyd3r_but it had me restart the x server during the compiz fusion thing05:44
spyd3r_well i did and it reset my visuals05:44
spyd3r_any way to make it stick?05:44
mrunagihow did u get the resolution down05:44
spyd3r_and i need the page again for resolution05:45
spyd3r_through run command05:45
spyd3r_by loading up the nvidia driver proggy05:45
mrunagido it again?05:45
spyd3r_no i need that page again05:45
spyd3r_and while trying to get the compiz-fusion to work i had some snags05:47
mrunagilol then type the trigger05:47
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion05:47
spyd3r_not that one the resolution page05:47
mrunagi!resolution | spyd3r_05:48
ubotuspyd3r_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:48
spyd3r_ok so should i go to the compiz channel for help with that?05:48
spyd3r_or can you help me?05:48
mrunagiim too tired man05:48
spyd3r_well thanx again05:49
spyd3r_hello can someone help me to get the codes for compiz-fusion?06:16
huyihi, i'm using kubuntu gutsy, i tried krecordmydesktop to record my desktop, but why didn't it record the background song i played?06:36
huyiexcuse me?06:44
gundam_rx78nt1ok, I got my wireless card to be detected but not my audio.06:53
gundam_rx78nt1I open my kmixer window and don't have an audio device.06:53
gundam_rx78nt1my audio card is an integrated 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)06:54
gundam_rx78nt1how can I activate it?06:54
mkquistgundam_rx78nt1: might take a look see here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544906:55
huyihi, i'm using kubuntu gutsy, i tried krecordmydesktop to record my desktop, but why didn't it record the background song i played?07:02
stdinhuyi: because it doesn't record sound, just the desktop07:13
needhelphi, how to disable SKIM from starting in my kubuntu?07:13
amedke hay amigos07:23
needhelphi, how to disable SKIM from starting in my kubuntu?07:25
crackhead100hi i was using open office. i clicked the menu drop down menu, and my x froze -- or the kernel froze. im not sure. i can move the mouse, but it sort of jitters as it moves. i can't access anything else. however, i can access the kernel from this second computer remotely logged in... help???? i want to try to get the computer working again without restarting the whole box, if possible..07:36
crackhead100is anyone there who can help???07:37
ere4siis anything using the cpu ?crackhead10007:38
crackhead100how can i check? i think there are a list of processes running.. i tried manually killing the x server from the remote login commandline, but it won't die..07:38
ere4sicrackhead100, type     top     in the terminal - press   k   - then enter the pid for x07:39
crackhead100one sec07:39
crackhead100yeah it looks like xorg is using 95% of cpu07:40
crackhead100should i kill it? or can i pause it somehow?07:40
ere4siI'd kill it then type startx07:41
crackhead100is there any way to save the xsession, the windows open, so that i can have them restart upon the restart of startx?07:42
ere4sifrom the commandline? - that I don't know...07:42
crackhead100it said kill with signal 15.. then i hit enter.. then it said kill failed.. operation not permitted... ???07:43
crackhead100did i have to type yes when it said "kill with sig 15"?07:43
ere4sitry this - press   q  to stop top - then type    sudo top     and retry07:43
crackhead100it didn't give an error, but top still shows xorg running...???07:45
ere4siall I can suggest is a reboot07:46
ere4sisudo shutdown -r now    for the command07:47
crackhead100anyone else know how to stop/kill/restart X without rebooting the whole machine, if top, kill pid doesn't kill it?07:47
crackhead100ere4si: this keeps happening. everytime i use open office, and i use the mouse to click the topline menu dropdown, it freezes up the xorg, and i have to restart.. i tried searching for why this happens, but i can't find it. do you, or could you find out anything? is this common??07:48
ere4sinever heard of it... maybe you could remove - reinstall oo07:49
ere4si*oo = open office07:49
ere4sicrackhead100, are you using 64bit?07:49
vltHello. When I copy and paste something from Konqueror into an OpenOffice document all UTF-8 chars are interpreted as ISO. "€" => "€", "ö" => "ö", "ß" => "ß" ... How to fix this?07:57
cntbvlt interesting question07:58
noaXesshave installed kate-kde4.. and now if i run kate unde kde3, kate-kde4 will be started.. how to change that without uninstalling kate-kde4?08:00
tokerhi all08:21
tokerwhere can I get a copy of firefox.. that is not firefox 3?08:21
tokernothing seems compatable with FF308:22
noaXesstoker: www.getfirefox.com08:24
ubuntuhey guys... i had to format most of my computer, but I ghosted Kubuntu... im looking for the best way to reinstall Grub though08:25
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tokerno packages?08:25
Gavoany easy way from the live cd?08:26
mkquistGavo: really this is just a google away but here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435108:29
vltGavo: `grub-install` is an easy way.08:29
mkquistGavo: really easy to install/reinstall grub08:29
Gavomkquist:  had no luck with the command prompt ones... entering my partition # caused all kinds of trouble before... messy drive08:29
Gavothanks though08:29
vltGavo: Did you read the --root-directory=DIR section of the manpage?08:30
mkquistGavo: make sure ur picking the right drive to install too then, thats the only thing thats messed me up08:30
cntbguys do you know a channel at freenode to discuss PVR DVR TV ?08:31
noaXesshow to disalbe the intalled kate-kde4, that kate for kde3 will run under kde3?08:31
mkquistGavo: make sure ur clear in ur head as to where u are installing it, ive had no probs on a dual (triple) boot system once i thought it through.  Usually I was the problem.  G/L though08:31
noaXesscntb: try searcing in google..08:31
cntbnoaXess OK08:33
Gavoyeppers   your spot on     me too... problem was I had an extended partition in the middle with unallocated space in 3 different places and somehow partition manager in windows put a partition on it08:33
harmentalhey guys...i have a serious issue with kded after upgrading to kde 3.5.9....When i plug an usb drive, it is mounted automatically, but no icon is showed on desktop and kded starts eating up to 90% of the processor...also kmail halts (or at least the icon the systray dissapears...)08:38
harmentali tried to find my way through google...But it didnt help......any ideas??? its really bothering me since I have to reboot ...08:39
walmikhi all.. i had installed baghira to make kde look like mac os but now i just want to go back to th earlier setup... how can i do that without having to reinstall kubuntu? pls help08:43
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walmikah there must be some way to go back to the default k settings08:49
Lynourewalmik: If nothing else helps, you can move away your ~/.kde08:51
kristjan_still no news about kde4 hardy iso? how come?08:51
kristjan_(if kubuntu hardy will indeed come with kde4 cd also then it's about time to release it for testing)08:52
Lynourekristjan_: #kubuntu-dev might know better08:52
walmikLynoure: i m sorry but i did not understand it08:52
kristjan_Lynoure: that's wrong channel08:52
kristjan_#kubuntu-devel is right one08:53
Lynourekristjan_: oh, anyway, meant the Kubuntu devel channel... or even #ubuntu+108:53
kollais there no >kde-3.5.7 for feisty?08:53
Lynourewalmik: If there is no Restore to default button for the appereance settings, and you don't have lots of custom kde settings, you can restore full default settings by   mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old   and logging out and back in08:54
Lynourewalmik: it moves all your kde settings to a backup location, new default settings get created automatically. Later if you wish you can pick and choose between the old custom and new default ones08:55
Lynourewalmik: But settings your own unique appereance settings can be whole fun too. I recommend playing with them first :)08:56
walmikLynoure: I d love to but these settings havent turned out the way i thought they would...08:57
walmikLynoure: Maybe i ve goofed upsomewhere08:57
walmikLynoure: I wanted it to look like Mac OS and it does to a large extent but there are lot of glitches08:58
Lynourewalmik: I think it's just that the system is not really an OS X... much more satisfying at least for me was to make it look like OS Lynoure ;)08:58
walmikLynoure: yea.. that makes more sense08:59
LynoureTook a leasurely weekend day of tweaking.08:59
walmikLynoure: so u suggest i do mv ~/.kde thingy08:59
cheneydoes any body speak Chinese09:00
jussi01!cn | cheney09:00
ubotucheney: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk09:00
walmikLynoure: i had installed compiz and it was fine till then.. but then when i installed baghira.. things started to turn sour09:00
Lynourewalmik: only if you are ok with restoring all of Kde default settings. I think I recommend that only as a second choice, if you cannot tweak a look you are as ok with as you were with the default09:00
Lynourewalmik: oh, I'm not a compiz expert, so far have happily avoided it.09:01
walmikLynoure: ok... i ll take ur advice,, i ll tweak for some more time and then if its still not smooth, then i guess i ll mv09:02
walmikLynoure: thanks09:02
kollamaybe this is wrong channel... I'm looking for newer KDE packages for feisty09:02
Lynourekolla: sounds like about as right channel as there is. How new?09:03
Lynourekolla: One way is to upgrade to gutsy, that has about as new as one can get (even kde4)09:03
kollawell, 3.5.9 would be great :)09:03
kollaLynoure: yes, I was hoping to avoid that09:04
cntbcheney ?09:04
Lynourekolla: I have not searched for other alternatives yet...09:06
cntbyou from PRC?09:06
cheneywhat problem09:06
cheneycheney, beijing09:06
cntbPM maybe ?09:06
cheneyhow about you?09:06
kollaLynoure: ok, thanks09:06
cheneyI just switch to kubuntu09:06
Lynourekolla: I'm pretty sure there is no official 3.5.9 for Feisty. And did not find unofficial packages for that either.09:06
kollame neither09:06
cntbgood cheney09:07
cheneybut , i meet some problems09:07
kollaok, I'll see if I can be bothered enough to upgrade, or just wait for 8.0409:07
Lynourekolla: Why the gutsy-avoidance?  (my occasional feisty-nostalgia is because of not having hibernation in gutsy on this laptop)09:07
cheneyI install kubuntu in my laptop09:08
kollaLynoure: lazyness... not my job etc :)09:08
cntbcheney  what laptop?09:08
Lynourekolla: if you'll eventually want 8.04, you'll probably be safer to go through 7.10 anyway. I think skipping a release is not officially supported for non-LTS releases09:08
cheneynot popular09:08
cheneynot the H/W issue09:09
cheneysome problem about the input method of chinese09:09
cntbyes they have portable dvd  players09:09
kollaLynoure: true.. ok, guess I can just as well do it09:09
kollaLynoure: eagerly awaiting 8.04 in order to have long standing ldap/ssl annoyances fixed09:09
cntbcheney what did you try?09:09
cheney2nd market share between chine PC manufactor09:10
vltHello. When I copy and paste something from Konqueror into an OpenOffice document all UTF-8 chars are interpreted as ISO. "€" => "€", "ö" => "ö", "ß" => "ß" ... How to fix this?09:10
kollaI still dont grasp why linking against ancient libldap 2.1 was such a clever idea09:10
cheneyI configure the skim, but I donot restart KDE and OS09:10
cntbdo MS windows pinyin methods work the same in ubuntu cheney, Iam asking myself09:11
cheneyI used ubuntu before. But I want to try KDE4, so I switch to kubuntu.09:11
cntbwas ubuntu OK for input method of chinese ?09:12
cheneyYes. I used scim under gnome, and can input chinese using PINYIN09:12
cheneythe ubuntu has no problem, everything is OK.09:12
cntband skim is the parallel similar in konqueror09:13
cntbsorry KDE cheney09:13
cheneyyes, it may be a configuration problem.09:13
cheney3 years ago, I used KDE under SUSE 8.009:13
cheneyNOT 3 years, it is 6 years ago.09:14
ubuntuhi im installing kubuntu everything went fine until 89% where it says "checking for packages to remove and has been like so for around 20 mins this happens everytime i try to install this, version 7.10, amd64 dvd and im running this on the live dvd09:14
kollahm, typical.. "getting upgrade prerequisites failed"09:15
cheneyI focuses on embedded linux since year 2000.09:15
ubuntuhi im installing kubuntu everything went fine until 89% where it says "checking for packages to remove and has been like so for around 20 mins this happens everytime i try to install this, version 7.10, amd64 dvd and im running this on the live dvd is there anything thing that i can do please can someone help09:17
Lynourekolla: hmm. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/153980 has some potential workarounds09:18
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kolla2008-02-25 10:18:31,324 ERROR pre-requists item 'http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/release-upgrader-dpkg/release-upgrader-dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu11.2_i386.udeb' is NOT trusted09:20
kollaseen it before09:20
Z3U5Lynoure: Hi i seemed to have worked around and got the internet working, but still getting the same error while installing it isaying "checking for packages to remove" and 89%09:22
LynoureZ3U5: I'm confused now... On the same machine?09:25
LynoureZ3U5: Wouldn't that put you past the stage where you are using the kubuntu installer to install kubuntu?09:27
Z3U5Lynoure: yep, i even ran check install disc which is on the install menu results were fine, im right now takling to you on the live dvd, yes, it has put me past that stage09:27
Z3U5Lynoure: this stage happenes right after spanning for mirror09:29
LynoureZ3U5: It seems some people have managed past it by brutally restarting the computer, and then installing some needed driver after the reboot. What display card you have?09:34
Z3U5Lynoure: nvidia geforce 620009:34
LynoureZ3U5: hmm. not sure. If you are daring you could try removing the install cd, and rebooting from the stuckness.09:35
Z3U5Lynoure: do i install needed drivers from adept manager, i tried to do that yesterday, all it showed was error in booting09:37
LynoureZ3U5: or you could try the alternate install cd09:38
Z3U5Lynoure: i am not aware of this09:38
Z3U5Lynoure: do i need to dload this09:38
LynoureZ3U5: It could help, yes.09:40
Z3U5Lynoure: is there a way for kubuntu to check install and dload whatever is not09:41
LynoureZ3U5: It's downloadable through the normal kubuntu download page, but the installing experience is a bit different09:41
LynoureZ3U5: that depends on what error you get... You'll need it to get to at least a command line to do anything.09:42
Z3U5Lynoure: "checking for programs to remove" thats where it gets stuck no error and it is still stuck there right now09:44
LynoureZ3U5: I got that. But you said you tried booting without cd from that, and got an error in the boot. Which error?09:45
Z3U5Lynoure: lemme restart and try ill come and let you know09:46
harmental80hey guys...kubuntu-desktop is making the kded to eat the processor up each time a usb device is plugged.....10:00
harmental80any ideas?10:00
tass_2got a problem with kdm: if i log in as user, it crashes and returns to the login screen10:07
tass_2if I start x as root, it works10:07
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Z3U5Lynoure: the system booted into xp, i guess grub was not installed10:08
LynoureZ3U5: that's weird, I think the grub normally gets installed before that step. If I was physically there, I'd boot with a rescue cd to see if I can boot Linux at all from the harddisk, but I think the alternate install cd might be the best bet nevertheless10:10
Z3U5Lynoure: can you give the url to download this10:13
LynoureZ3U5: where are you located? (So that I can give you the one to the closest mirror)10:14
Z3U5Lynoure: india10:15
LynoureZ3U5: it was an amd64, right? This might be from the closest mirror: http://ubuntu.indika.net.id/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-alternate-amd64.iso10:18
harmentalhey guys...if a remove --purge kubuntu-desktop...And then reinstall it....will i recover all my kde settings, kontact files, etc....?10:18
harmentalin order words...is it safe?10:18
jussi01harmental: it wond do anything10:18
jussi01harmental: kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage10:19
harmentaljussi01: sorry..i forgot to tell that ill do remove --purge kubuntu-desktop and autoremove afterwards....10:19
jussi01harmental: there is a chance it can break things10:19
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harmentaljussi01: mmm....ok...so lets try another thing....i've upgraded to kde 3.5.9 last week...and i've been experiencing serious problems since: each time i plug an USB drive kded goes to roof (90% and counting) there is no icon on the desktop and i have to use dolphin for the drive to be automounted...also it hungs up kontact....10:21
harmentali've tried purging kdm and kubuntu-desktop...the installing only kdm and things seem to work fine....the moment i install kubuntu-desktop the problem comes back....10:22
harmentaljussi01: i really dont know what to do...and google hasnt been of any help.....10:22
harmentalthere has been similar reports but no solution whatsoever....10:23
jussi01harmental: apart from a regress to 3.5.8 ...10:23
harmentalwhat i dont get is why kubuntu-desktop is responsible for that kind of behavior....10:23
harmentaljussi01: i think ill do that and pray...10:24
harmentalhow can i roll back smoothly?10:24
jussi01harmental: you dont need the meta package, so dont install it :)10:24
Z3U5Lynoure: thanks later10:24
harmentalalso (and this is a minor problem) the login screen is not the one i've set in the kdm manager...its not even the kubuntu login....i think is the default kde login...10:25
jussi01harmental: where did you get the 3.5.9 packages?10:25
vltHello. Will KDE 3.5.x still be availbale in Kubuntu 8.04?10:26
harmentaldeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-kde-3.5.9/ubuntu gutsy main10:26
harmentalas explained in kubuntu website10:26
jussi01vlt: yes10:27
vltjussi01: Seems to be the better choice at the moment, right?10:29
jussi01vlt: hardy will ship with both kde3 and 4 - 2 separate disks10:29
philipp_hi there, does anyone know how to make the standard-search-funktion find anything (on an externel drive e.g.)10:38
Lynourephilipp_: anything? Or something specific? I can make  find  find most things, but I bet there are some I'd have trouble with. Could help you better if you told a bit more on what you want to find...10:39
philipp_i just want it to find my files on my usb-pen etc10:40
Lynourephilipp_: all the files on the usb-pen?10:46
Lynourephilipp_: or files by certain name, or some other criteria on the usb-pen?10:46
philipp_maybee music files, whatever, just as the usual windows-search-funktion10:47
philipp_of course filtering by name ^^10:47
Lynourephilipp_: http://www.linux.com/articles/55377  is an excellent intro to using  find10:48
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Lynourephilipp_: e.g.  find /media/usb-pen -name "*.ogg"   would find all your ogg music files under /media/usb-pen10:51
harmentaljussi01: im done! how can i roll back smoothly to kde 3.5.9?10:56
philipp_ah, i finally succeeded, thanks!10:56
jussi01harmental: you mean to 3.5.8 ?10:57
harmentalyeap..thats right...good old 3.5.810:57
jussi01to be honest, im not exactly sure of the correctprocedure10:57
jussi01!hi | ali3n5110:58
ubotuali3n51: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:58
ali3n51how i can change the boot screen10:58
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.10:58
jussi01not that one10:58
ali3n51i am using kubuntu10:58
jussi01yeah, sorry about that, which boot screen do you want to change? the login?10:58
ali3n51login and bootscreen10:59
jussi01ali3n51: system settings - Splash screen10:59
ali3n51how i can activate the splash screen11:00
ali3n51to install splash screen in able to activate11:01
jussi01ali3n51: I told you already...11:02
harmentaldoes anybody know how to downgrade kde please?11:03
ali3n51do u think ubuntu/kubuntu can attack the spyware/malware and viruses?11:07
vltHello. Where can I test my installation of flashplugin?11:07
ali3n51what anti virus sofware to use to prevent the attack11:07
ali3n51how can update the kde 3.5 to 4.011:10
jussi01!virus | ali3n5111:10
ubotuali3n51: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2111:10
babWho has a Canon LiDE 500F? The scanner does a great job under Wi***ws but the SANE project said, that the status for this device is "unsupport" for a few years ... "GL841 based, to be added to genesys backend"11:10
jussi01!kde4 > ali3n5111:10
ali3n51if possible the kde 3.5 to update into kde 4.011:12
jussi01ali3n51: join #kubuntu-kde411:13
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ActionParsniphey all11:38
jussi01oh no its ActionParsnip... ( hei there)11:44
ali3n51beryl is compatible to kubuntu?11:46
ActionParsnipwerd up jussi0111:46
ActionParsnipali3n51, absolutely11:46
ali3n51oh really11:46
ActionParsnip!compiz | ali3n5111:46
ubotuali3n51: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion11:46
SlimeyPeteali3n51: yes, but compiz-fusion is preferred these days11:46
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz11:46
ali3n51i have already installed is my system11:47
ali3n51but i can't run the effects11:47
ActionParsnipali3n51, have you ran compiz --replace11:48
ActionParsnipwerd up antowen11:49
Z3U5Lynoure:ok so i got the alternate cd as you asked me to, now what should i do11:55
LynoureZ3U5: more like recommended than asked. I found out some people who get the problem you got, do not get it when installing with the alternate cd11:56
Z3U5Lynoure:thanks lemme see what happens, will keep you updated11:58
pushaxdoes anyone know of a MAME repository?11:58
SupaFlyHello there, hey im using Kubuntu 7.10, and the crystal window's decoration, it was working fine( with my X800 XT ATI card ) until the other day, now the windows borders have dissapeared :S, i tired kwin--replace but that did not help, help much appreciated12:01
pushaxSupaFly: could it be your montior?12:02
SupaFlyno definatly not the monitor lol12:02
pushaxSupaFly: are you using a LCD?  if so max a window and press what ever button to auto align screen12:02
SupaFlyyes but i know what it is supposed to look like, the other day crystal decided not to play anymore and now i cant see the window borders anymore12:03
pushaxALT-F3 ont he window12:03
pushaxSupaFly: I think you press ALT-F3 ont he window and it will put the border on12:04
pushaxon the...12:04
ActionParsnippushax, very yorkshire there :D12:04
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sveridoes somebody know how to remove a 'weird' file?12:05
ActionParsnipsveri, define weird12:05
jussi01pushax: you want mame roms or an emulator?12:05
pushaxActionParsnip: what do you mean by yorkshire?  I'm welsh..  hehehe12:05
pushaxjussi01: I'd like roms but mainly after the exec.  xmam is too old builds now.  like xmame is 2006 builds12:06
ActionParsnippushax, int is very yorkshire (leeds here)12:06
sverikubuntu tells me that the file is weired, ok, a bit more explanation, i mounted a backup partition on ext3 and try to delete some files, ls -lisa in the directory gives me: memory exhausted and ls -lisa xs_colors.h:2295969 ?r-S-w-rwx 22388 1493481812 2730945560 2910525775 1994-07-14 01:13 xs_colors.h12:06
SupaFlyyep but thats kcontrol pushax, and believe me ive tried to adjust the settings, but no luck12:06
ActionParsnipsveri, try sudo rm <whatever file>12:07
sveriand i i want to remove, chown, or chmod it linux tells me that operation is not permitted, the same if i do it as root12:07
ActionParsnippushax, do you mean like www.romnation.net12:07
pushaxSupaFly: try kdesu kcontrol then adjust12:07
pushaxActionParsnip: looking now.  thx.12:07
ActionParsnipsveri, try sudo-ing stuff12:07
sveriActionParsnip: i did12:07
ActionParsnipsveri, whats the output of 'file xs_colors.h' (without the 's)12:08
sveriActionParsnip: xs_colors.h: ERROR: invalid mode 07442712:09
ActionParsnipsveri, sudo chmod 7777 xs_....12:10
ActionParsnipsveri, then sudo rm xs_...12:10
sveriActionParsnip: again, the operation is not permitted12:10
ActionParsnipsveri, got a live cd distro?12:12
sveribut thats not the problem12:12
sverithe partition is on another hard drive12:12
sverii can unmount it and acces it12:12
sveriwithout booting from live cd12:13
ActionParsnipsveri, true. just figured live cd would be ok12:14
sveriyea, surely12:15
ActionParsnipsveri, worth a shot. very weird how its "stuck"12:15
Sbucatone_Hello World,12:16
sveriActionParsnip: yea12:16
peskahi. Im searching for a tool like scotty. Does anybody have some recomendations?12:16
sveriActionParsnip: i never seen that before12:16
Sbucatone_scotty mm nice name what is ? peska12:16
peskaSbucatone_: it's a graphical network analyser. for mapping LANs...12:17
Sbucatone_peska: ah well like look lan , in understand ..well i am sorry i don't know nothing about that12:18
pushaxjussi01: I was hoping there would be a secret or open respository just for mame stuff. heheh12:19
Sbucatone_peska: look at this maybe can be usefull or not http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52173112:20
ActionParsnippeska, ethereal is cool :)12:21
peskaSbucatone_: thanx. I'll check it.12:21
pushaxI've got the mame bug after watching The King of Kong movie.12:21
Sbucatone_ActionParsnip: is this on repo ?12:21
peskaActionParsnip: ethereal still exists?12:21
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ActionParsnipSbucatone_, try it12:26
milestonehi all12:26
ActionParsnippeska, yeah its awesome dude12:26
ActionParsniphi milestone12:26
ActionParsnip!hi | milestone12:27
ubotumilestone: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:27
milestoneis it possible to define search domains within knetworkmanager or networkmanager in general?12:27
milestoneit keeps overwriting my changes in /etc/resolv.conf12:27
milestoneany help is highly appreciated12:27
ActionParsnipmilestone, no idea sorry12:28
ActionParsnipmilestone, someone else maybe able to12:28
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vltHello. When I load http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ in Firefox I get a "Flas is installed, version 9.0.115" window. Using Konqueror I don't see this message, get an html only version from maps.google.com and can't watch youtube videos, for example. Any ideas what to check first?12:42
vltI installed the flashplugin-nonfree package from dapper-backports.12:44
ActionParsnipvlt, try sudo cp-ing the .so file to your plugins directory12:45
vltActionParsnip: Where's the .so file and where the plugin dir?12:47
ActionParsnipvlt, if you got the file from adobe, you should extract it to get an installer and a .so file? is that what you have12:47
ActionParsnipvlt, and are you on 32bit or 64bit kubuntu?12:48
Dr_willisHmm. Running ktorrent, and every so often i get an error on a torrent  'too many open files'12:48
vltActionParsnip: No, I installed/used the Kubuntu package12:48
ActionParsnipvlt, 32bit is good :D12:48
ActionParsnipvlt, get the archive file and copy it to your plugins dir12:49
vltActionParsnip: I'm pretty sure it worked a few days ago, rigtht after I installed it, hmmm ...12:49
ActionParsnipvlt, http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz12:49
vltActionParsnip: What's wrong with the package from backports?12:50
ActionParsnipvlt, id uninstall what you installed too (saves confusion and space)12:50
ActionParsnipvlt, ive never liked backports myself. This is just how I do it. I use firefox too but konqueror should be similar12:50
vltActionParsnip: Ok, I'll try.12:51
ActionParsnipvlt, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/64255-macromedia-flash-player-konqueror-web-browser.html12:51
Floppy_doggyI got a problem here, when im talking in my mic i hear my own voice. How do i fix this?12:53
vltFloppy_doggy: Check you (alsa)mixer settings. You can choose there what source should be audible.12:54
ActionParsnipFloppy_doggy, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/help-i-cant-record-line-inmic-on-alsa-cs46xx-438831/12:55
gundam_rx78nt1I try to reboot my laptop and instead of coming to kdm, it comes to the terminal.  Once I log in and do /etc/init.d/kdm restart, it arrives to the kdm login page... what can be wrong?12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda-intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:58
vltgundam_rx78nt1: Have you checked that kdm isn't already running in VT7?12:58
vltgundam_rx78nt1: (by pressing Alt+F7)12:58
gundam_rx78nt1it wasn't.  when I went to vt7, all I had was a blinking cursor.12:58
gundam_rx78nt1this was after the recent update.12:59
gundam_rx78nt1oh, wait a minute. brb.12:59
vltgundam_rx78nt1: I often had this on Kubuntu Feisty. Then someday on of the updates fixed it ...13:00
vlt(only the second "on")13:02
* vlt seems to have some ov his keys broken13:02
pushaxhaven't tested yet but here are latest builds of mame.  http://wallyweek.altervista.org/rel123.php13:17
siofwolvesis there an app to play realplayer files .rm ?13:21
ignogrul: Hello my young lad13:23
gruligno, I have a great pdf for you, it's about something remotely related to kubuntu. http://ocw.mit.edu/NR/rdonlyres/Sloan-School-of-Management/15-023JSpring-2007/0C83B5D6-D4D4-453F-979A-2C771FCD416F/0/lect17.pdf13:23
siofwolvesnvm, found it.13:24
gundam_rx78nt1Ok I realized what my problem was...13:25
gundam_rx78nt1Now, if I can get my audio card working...13:25
farnz_okey first time ive installed Kubuntu any does and dont's????13:25
gundam_rx78nt1I did an update and had to remove the linux header package, it removed my audio card drivers.  I have re-installed alsa, headers, and restricted drivers.  I can't find any drivers to modprobe.13:26
gundam_rx78nt1The driver that is required is snd-hda-intel13:26
gundam_rx78nt1any help?13:27
ThecksApt is locked for some reason, anybody know how to unlock it? :)13:27
PiciThecks: If you are sure that you are using sudo and have no other package managers open...13:28
gundam_rx78nt1if you don't have anything that has it open, do a sudo dpkg --configure -a13:28
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:28
ThecksThaks =]13:28
ThecksNope, fresh install, it was doing updates and just crashed.. fun =[13:28
ThecksGood, looks like it's happy again =]13:31
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mingo__va aqui no hay nadie13:32
gundam_rx78nt1!spanish |mingo__13:37
ubotumingo__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.13:37
farnz_HELP! why does my mouse keep locking up????13:38
pushaxfarnz_: what type of mouse is it13:41
xrestassuredxhow can i change the size of icons in dropdown menu items? i accidentally applied one of those "blind people" themes and now everything is huge!13:54
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto13:55
xrestassuredxit's not my resolution13:55
spyd3rit wasnt meant for you13:56
spyd3ri didi it for myself13:56
spyd3rim trying to figure everything out13:56
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion13:57
MrJigsawSlimeyPete: thanks for the help with qtparte.. now it fucked up a VERY importent harddrive of mine..14:00
* SlimeyPete blinks at MrJigsaw 14:03
MrJigsawNot even funny..14:03
SlimeyPeteI'm not sure what you're talking about14:04
SlimeyPeteMrJigsaw: I'm just intrigued as to why you aimed that at me... I don't remember discussing qtparted with you. Was it a long time ago?14:08
sakiAny ideals as to why my computer would suddenly have the fans go insane followed by a self-reboot?14:08
Dr_willissaki,  desktop or laptop?14:09
spyd3rsaki!! i need help lol14:09
sakiWhy hello, spyd3r14:09
ActionParsnipsup spyd3r?14:09
Dr_willissaki,  could be the video card drivers crashing.  the fan speed on my desktop of the video card is only 'slow' wheni have the video card drivers loaded.14:10
MrJigsawyesterday evening SlimeyPete..14:10
spyd3ri cant get compiz-fusion to work14:10
MrJigsawyou tolk me yo load it up to fix grub.. and now one of my most important harddrives is gone14:10
spyd3rthe guide i was given last night wont work for some reason14:10
Dr_willisspyd3r,  ati or nvidia card?14:10
sakiHrm...I think it has something to do with my ram because that was the last thing I switched before it started doing this.14:11
sakibut the last time I had this problem was because the RAM was mixed speed.14:11
spyd3rgeforce 610014:11
sakiLong time ago, DDR 400 mixed with 33314:11
Dr_willisspyd3r you do have the actual nvidia drivers setup? used the restricted manager tool and installed them?14:11
sakibut this time I bought brand new kingston DDR2 106614:12
SlimeyPeteerm... doesn't ring a bell, sorry. I think I mentioned the alternate CD and grub-install to you if that's what you mean, MrJigsaw?14:12
sakiall four gigabytes together in a pack14:12
SlimeyPeteor... was that to someone else14:12
spyd3ryes i have14:12
Dr_willisspyd3r, You may want to go into detail as to whats not working..  and what you have done so far to trouble shoot this.14:13
SlimeyPeteMrJigsaw: yeah, I just scrolled back and can't see me mentioning qtparted. I think you have the wrong person.14:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:13
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spyd3rok when i got to install the compiz and plugins package it asks if i want to continue14:14
spyd3ri say y14:14
spyd3rand it aborts14:14
spyd3rso no package for me14:14
Dr_willisspyd3r,  so the issue is that the pakcage manager is goofing up.. whats the exact error type message?14:15
spyd3rid hafta do it all again14:15
spyd3rhold on lemme do it14:15
Dr_willisYou did a 'sudo apt-get update ' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  befor trying?14:15
Dr_willisIt pays to take notes. :)14:15
harmental_an urgent upgrade is needed to repair the kde 3.5.9 bugs....does anybody know if it is coming anytime soon???14:15
Dr_willisharmental_,  check the kubuntu forums perhaps?14:16
ActionParsnipharmental_, if its available, get it in :)14:16
Dr_willisIm not even using 3.5.9 yet.14:16
spyd3rim doing it now14:17
spyd3rgimme a sec14:17
sakiTime to test out the power of this /fully/ functional battlestation!14:17
harmental_ActionParsnip: if what is available??14:18
spyd3rummmmm the upgrade option........does that d/l every update available for my system?14:19
Dr_willisspyd3r,  yes. basicially14:20
pushaxhow can I install a package without it wanting to remove another?14:21
pushaxis there a way to firce just the pciked apet package to install?14:22
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Dr_willisremove another? what one is it wanting to remove?14:22
pushaxis there a way to force just the picked adept package to install?14:22
pushaxDr_willis: I've installed a new version of MAME, but I want to use the kxmame gui frontend.  when I pick it in Adpet it wants to remove a DEB package of the new MAme I got.14:23
spyd3rits gunna be downloading forever.....14:24
pushaxDr_willis: I'm sure the kxmame front end for mame should work on any mame build14:24
Dr_willispushax,  do you downloaded a newer mame  deb from somewhere?14:24
Dr_willisI normally compile the latest mame from source. and keep it in my users dir. Then point kxmame to that binary/version.14:24
pushaxDr_willis: yep I got the latest ver 0.123  the xmame version is from 2006 on the main repositories14:25
Dr_willisodd that kxmame wants to remove the newer mame..  Unless the package names/versions are not matching some how14:25
pushaxDr_willis: it considers it a different item as it's not a new version of xmame.  the new mame I have is sdlmame14:26
Dr_willisyea. ya could edit the .deb file to tell it to ignore the conflicts i guess..  But that sounds like a hassle.14:27
pushaxDr_willis: I wanted to know if there is a way to force a single picked package without ti doing toher association processing14:27
spyd3rthose lines you gave me are d/ling now willis14:27
spyd3rsays i have 40 some odd minutes to go14:27
Dr_willisNo idea on that pushax  - proberly is. apt has so many features its scary14:27
pushaxDr_willis: that maybe a ways14:27
Dr_willisi wonder what owuld happenif you remove kxmame and the other mame, then install the new, THEN install kxmame.14:28
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slon__русские есть?14:29
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Dr_willisactually - isent the mame  variants like xmame, sdlmame, and the others sort of a 'you can only have 1' instlled  sort of limit?14:29
Dr_willisI always found the ones in the repos to be so old. I just use source. :) havent messed with them much.14:30
Dr_willisWell Its bed time for me. Goodnight all.14:30
pushaxDr_willis: well the sdlmame deb didn't want to instlal when it saw xmame and kxmame doesn't want sdl installed when trying it14:30
spyd3rcrap now im left alone agin14:31
CreationistI'm trying to get wireless working on my neighbor's laptop and have found some guides, but they all require internet access from the laptop.  Obviously, the laptops wireless access doesn't work, but neither does using my wired internet... I connect the cable and nothing.14:32
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farnz__ hello14:42
ubotuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.14:44
Daisuke-Idothat should say "pretty much fully supported, with a few caveats"14:45
sakiChroot environment14:49
sakiI'm trying to decide if that might be the problem14:49
sakijust if its trying to access some of the RAM thats hidden due to the 32-bit system.14:49
sakiand causing an address failure14:49
bittinHi somone knows how to get Tele2 Broadband to work in Kubuntu?15:07
Daisuke-Idowould probably be more likely to get an answer if you informed people as to what kind of connection Tele2 is...15:08
bittina DSL connection15:08
Daisuke-Idoexternal modem, ethernet to the pc?15:09
Daisuke-Idocat5, rather15:09
bittinits from a router15:09
Daisuke-Idoare you on that machine now?15:09
bittinand i putted it in to electroicy things15:09
bittinnah but i got it besides me15:10
bittin1 cm15:10
Daisuke-Idoi'm not seeing anything, it should be exactly like any other wired connection15:11
bittini also thinks so15:12
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bittinthe problem is i need to get PPPoE to work15:13
jussi01!pppoe | bittin15:16
ubotubittin: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE15:16
bittinjussi01: yepp but can't download that package without internet on that computer15:17
jussi01!aptoncd | bittin15:17
ubotubittin: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers15:17
bittinthats true15:18
bittinbut don't got an empty cd at all here :P15:18
mrunagigo buy some lol15:18
jussi01well then...15:18
bittindon't got moneys15:18
bittintrying to help my grand parents15:18
bittinand its far away from town15:18
mrunagii have tons here and im broke15:18
mrunagiwant some?15:18
jussi01bittin:  any chance of networking the 2 pc's, then internet connection sharing for a bit?15:18
bittinif i knowed how i do that from mac osx Wirless to Kubuntu?15:19
mrunagiwhy not dl the deb you need and put it on the other15:19
jussi01bittin: wait a sec, cant you just use kppp which is already installed?15:21
bittini can send it with m-player =)15:22
jussi01bittin: try kppp in the "internet" menu15:22
bittinshould do that15:23
sammuhow can u share files in here?15:24
mrunagii use kppp for bluetooth DUN15:24
playstation3hi aşş15:25
playstation3i need an updated sources.list file15:26
playstation3where can i find15:26
playstation3i cant update , upgrade or install any updates15:26
playstation3i m using 7.1015:26
mrunagiupdated sources? what do you mean by that15:27
jussi01playstation3: what errror does it give?15:27
playstation3Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/gutsy-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found15:27
playstation3and more like this15:27
jussi01playstation3: go to adet, click manage repositories, and choose a new mirror15:27
spyd3rhow do i get the cube effect to work?15:28
jussi01ok, hang on, you are using which arch?15:28
playstation3adept not updating , giving errors also15:28
jussi01spyd3r: you will probably get more help on that in #compiz-fusion15:28
spyd3rive tried everyone ignores me15:29
jussi01playstation3: are you on ppc?15:29
playstation3yep , playstation3 Cell15:29
jussi01spyd3r: its quite a busy channel, I would suggest try again15:29
BluesKajgot biggie crash this morning, no desktop except for the panel , but now the login sequence quits at the 3rd symbol and goes back to the login page. I had managed to boot up normally previous to this and then everything crashed. I'm on TTY prompt right now.15:30
jussi01playstation3: ask in #ubuntu-powerpc15:30
BluesKajtried reconfiguring X but nothing15:30
jussi01BluesKaj: move you .kde to another place, see if its a setting15:31
jussi01BluesKaj:go to /home/username then mv .kde .kde-old15:33
Blueskajoops , jussi01  , what did you mean by 'moving kde' ?15:38
jussi01Blueskaj: not kde, but your .kde  folder15:39
BlueskajI'm in the shell prompt using irssi15:40
mrunagiweird..........on a samba share, copy and paste requires a password that doesnt exist, but moving a folder  doesnt15:40
Blueskajjussi01:  I have no access to folders other than cli commands15:41
mrunagiBlueskaj: that is a cli command15:42
jussi01Blueskaj: as i said before, use:  mv .kde .kde-old15:42
mrunagisudo mv ~/.kde ~/.kdeold15:42
jussi01mrunagi: shouldnt need sudo there15:42
jussi01its a user folder15:42
mrunagii see15:42
mrunagii have a bad habit of using sudo for everything15:43
jussi01mrunagi: yes, that is a bad habit...15:43
mrunagiWHY does smb ask me for a password that doesnt exist =(15:43
hydrogenyay for the additional security sudo provides!15:43
Blueskajok, did that in another shell, now I do ?15:45
jussi01Blueskaj: startx :)15:45
hydrogenstartx is probably a bad idea15:45
spyd3rhi mrunagi15:45
hydrogenunless you've set you're window manager of choice15:45
hydrogento be that which you prefer15:46
hydrogenotherwise you get to play twm15:46
hydrogenwith twm*15:46
mrunagihi spyd3r15:47
mrunagistartx will tell you why X wont load =/15:47
mrunagikdm start doesnt unless its somewhere i dunno15:48
hydrogen /var/log/Xorg.0.log15:48
mrunagithats just an extra step i have to take lol15:48
mrunagispyd3r: what are you working on today15:49
spyd3rfiguring out how to get compiz to actually work15:49
spyd3rres is fixed15:49
mrunagiwhy doesnt it 'work'15:49
mrunagitell compiz to get a job15:49
spyd3rand all the compiz-fusion stuff is on15:50
spyd3rbut its not working the way its sposed to i guess15:50
mrunagithen whats the problem15:50
mrunagibe specific man!15:50
spyd3rhere take a look15:50
mrunagi::blank stare::15:50
kulacssonebody speaks hungary?15:51
mrunagiim hungry15:51
spyd3rim english15:51
ubotuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál15:51
mrunagispyd3r: what happens when you push ctrl alt right arrow15:51
spyd3rswitches desktops15:52
spyd3ri have that affect15:52
spyd3rbut no 3d cube15:52
mrunagii mean does it slide?15:52
mrunagior just switch15:52
spyd3rits only using 2 desktops15:52
mrunagii  know this15:52
mrunagianswer my question15:52
spyd3ri see a 3d effect when i do ti15:52
mrunagiwhat kind of 3d effect15:52
spyd3rbut it just shows a backside of my current desktop and its a blank desktop15:52
mrunagithats the cube15:53
mrunagiopen a terminal15:53
mrunagihave fun with the settings15:53
mrunagiin general theres a place to define how many horizontal desktops.........change it from 2 to 415:53
spyd3ri have been but i wanted the whole cube15:53
spyd3rnot just 2 sides15:53
mrunagiwell i just told you how to get 415:53
mrunagiapparently you havent read it yet15:53
spyd3ron my taskbar it says i have 415:53
siofwolvesis there a way to see what download speeds i'm getting? i'm downloading java atm and it'd be nice to see what the speed is.15:54
spyd3rbut its only switching between 215:54
mrunagispyd3r: read above15:54
spyd3rdo the ccsm in the terminal?15:54
spyd3ror just open the ccsm?15:54
mrunagispyd3r: or if you want k menu > settings > advanced desktop effects settings15:55
spyd3rits already open15:55
spyd3rbut i have it set for cube15:55
spyd3rand its still only showing 2 desktops15:55
mrunagidude..........i cant help you more than telling you how to change that as i have already done15:56
mrunagido i need to say it again?15:56
spyd3rim not understanding then i guess15:56
Daisuke-Idogo to #compiz-fusion if you need more help15:56
spyd3rim in there now15:57
spyd3rno ones answering me15:57
mrunagiim answering you qand you arent listening lol15:57
mrunagi<mrunagi> in general theres a place to define how many horizontal desktops.........change it from 2 to 415:57
spyd3rim in ccsm15:57
spyd3rwhat do i need to change for the 4 desktops then15:57
mrunagii just said it for the second time15:57
spyd3ryea see i told u im a noob15:58
spyd3ri have no idea where to look15:58
mrunagiyou said you are in ccsm...........15:58
Daisuke-IdoGeneral Options > Desktop Size tab > Number of Desktops15:58
spyd3rtheres like 50 different options with sub menus15:58
Daisuke-Idochange that to 415:58
spyd3ri am15:58
mrunagithen go to general15:58
mrunagidesktop size..........15:58
mrunagihorizontal virtual size to 415:59
Daisuke-Idomrunagi: you can't just tell someone who doesn't know the program to look "here", because there's a lot in "here" - try a detailed trail that will get them to where they need to know15:59
Blueskajctrl+alt+F1 doesn't give me the TTY prompt while booting,. Boots directly to the login page, so starting X is not possible .:(15:59
spyd3ri dont know where desktop size tab is15:59
mrunagiits under general options15:59
mrunagiwhere in ccsm are you right now spyd3r15:59
spyd3rwheres general options lol16:00
Daisuke-Idooiy vey16:00
spyd3rim looking at a screen16:00
mrunagiand it says....16:00
spyd3rthat has filter with a search box16:00
spyd3rlists the diff categories16:00
Daisuke-IdoJUST to the right of that16:00
Daisuke-Idothere's a General Options button.16:00
mrunagisuch as....GENERAL?16:00
mrunagimy head hurts....16:00
Daisuke-Ido...and yes, it's also listed under category16:00
spyd3radvanced ok i did i t16:01
Daisuke-Idoadvanced what?16:01
spyd3rbut im only gettin 3 lol16:01
mrunagigetting 3 what16:01
Daisuke-Idoi need excedrin16:01
mrunagishare Daisuke-Ido?16:01
spyd3rok i got 4 now16:02
spyd3rnow where do i get skins and so forth?16:02
spyd3ri have wobbly windows16:02
spyd3rbut i want it to look like beryl16:02
mrunagiwhat do you mean look like beryl16:02
spyd3rgo to youtube16:02
mrunagii dont need to16:02
spyd3rlook at the video for vista aero vs beryl16:03
Blueskajwhat's the best way to get to the TTY prompt after the boot menu ?16:03
Daisuke-Idoberyl doesn't exist16:03
mrunagiBlueskaj: only way i know is ctrl alt f1 f2 f3 etc16:03
Daisuke-Idoit merged with compiz16:04
spyd3ri know that16:04
Daisuke-Idoso...  what's the problem?16:04
spyd3rbut i want the same features as in that video16:04
mrunagispyd3r: what do you mean by 'look like beryl'16:04
spyd3rgo look at the video!16:04
Daisuke-Idothey're all there, learn your way around ccsm16:04
spyd3ryoull see16:04
spyd3ri want everything you can see there16:04
Daisuke-Idospyd3r: you're going to have to do better than that16:04
spyd3rthe rocketdock?16:04
spyd3rthe backgrounds?16:04
spyd3rwallpapers whatever you wanna call em16:05
mrunagiwtf is rocketdock16:05
Daisuke-Idorocketdock isn't part of beryl or compiz.16:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rocketdock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:05
spyd3rwhen you close a window it has sparklies16:05
spyd3rit looks like rocketdock16:05
Daisuke-Idothat's in the effects16:05
spyd3rif u want to know what im saying go watch the video16:05
* Daisuke-Ido grumbles16:05
Filled-VoidI have kde installed on my Ubuntu system and I was tryign to use the themes I previously used on gnome but it doesnt seem to work. I think they are gtk themes . Can I use GTK themes in kde?16:05
spyd3rskip halfway through and you can see it16:05
Daisuke-Idoit's not our job to go look at the video for you.16:05
spyd3ri know this16:06
spyd3rbut i dont know any other way to explain it16:06
mrunagiyou mean you want the dock at the top?16:06
spyd3rand more16:06
mrunagiyou want awn16:06
spyd3rim a total and utter noob dazzled by pretty lights16:06
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spyd3rso where do i go to get that?16:07
Filled-Voidspyd3r, theres an awn guide in Ubuntu Forums. It has a good write up on how to install16:09
mrunagispyd3r: there is alot going on in that video that isnt beryl16:12
mrunagiooooh thats kiba dock16:12
mrunagiyou dont want kiba16:12
spyd3rwhats wrong with it?16:13
mrunagiits unstable16:15
mrunagivery noob unfriendly16:15
spyd3rah ok16:15
spyd3rbut thats not beryl?16:16
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al-_-Girnext ubuntu will have kde4 as default desktop enviroment ?16:17
mrunagilol i xkilled my desktop16:23
mrunagihow do i get it back16:23
spyd3rmrunagi did you see the effect when the window was closed in that video16:23
spyd3rhow do i get that?16:23
mrunagilol please help  me i cant restart x for another hour16:23
mrunagispyd3r: wait till next release16:23
mrunagithat wont be added till the next release spyd3r16:24
spyd3rso that video is it a demo?16:24
mrunagino that video is of beryl16:24
mrunagiwhat is the command to start the actual desktop anyone know16:24
ArwenBeryl == dead, obsolete, and broken16:24
* mrunagi is read with embarrassment16:25
mrunagired rather16:25
mrunagiah.........its kdesktop16:25
edjuDoesn't ubuntu provide a list of debs available for download?  I've looked and looked, but can't find one.  Specifically, looking for a heron list.16:25
mrunagiare you friggen kidding me?!!?16:26
mrunagistarting the desktop killed my file transfer!16:26
mrunagihow annyoing16:26
Piciedju: packages.ubuntu.com?16:26
Arwenedju, packages.ubuntu.com16:26
mrunagiscrew it in that case im restarting x brb16:26
Arwenthey're also in a list somewhere in /var/lib/apt16:27
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edjuAh, thanks.16:27
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edjuWell, that was easy enough.  Now, I need alsa 1.0.16, which is in hardy - can I remove gutsy alsa .14, and use dpkg to install the hardy .16, or will that break stuff?16:30
Arwenalsa is usually linked against the kernel so I would imagine that would be a bad idea16:30
mrunagii am UNHAPPY right now =)16:31
edjuArwen, Thanks.  I thought that wouldn't work.  Wait till April, I guess.16:33
Arwenedju, well, actually, you could download the source packages and compile them16:33
Arwenthat should work16:33
mrunagiomg!!!!! why does smb ask me for a password that doesnt exist16:33
edjuI tried that - didn't work.  Must have missed some steps or other.16:34
Arwenmrunagi, that's how SMB authentication works. Respond with a blank password.16:34
dbgltI'm using kde4, and seem to have lost the panel at the bottom of the screen. Any idea how to get it back?16:45
jpatrickdbglt: #kubuntu-kde416:45
mrunagiwhat is kde416:46
jpatrick!kde4 > mrunagi16:46
mrunagii wouldnt call it a major release16:46
mrunagican you safely run kde3 and kde4 next to each other?16:46
jpatrickmrunagi: not a major release??16:46
jpatrickmrunagi: yes16:46
MGalaxyis there any program to mange DSL accounts in kubuntu easily? (except PPPTRAY )16:46
mrunagii heard it was broken16:48
spyd3rok mrunagi im done for a little while i guess16:56
spyd3rill ttyl16:56
GAZELHow can I disable ACPI when installing ?16:57
nosrednaekimGAZEL» before you boot, there is an otpion for editing the boot parameters, add "noacpi" to those parameters16:58
GAZELnosrednaekim: how can i do it16:59
GAZELediting boot parameters16:59
nosrednaekimGAZEL» it says on the grub screen for the liveCD (where you select what to start up) I think its f12 or something.17:00
Daisuke-Idonosrednaekim: some days just aren't worth the effort it takes to chew through the restraints, eh?17:00
nosrednaekimDaisuke-Ido» what?17:01
Daisuke-Idonevermind :)17:01
Daisuke-Idoa play on "some days aren't worth the effort it takes to get out of bed"17:01
nosrednaekimoh :)17:02
nosrednaekimnever had a day like that17:02
Daisuke-Idoloving xfce, by the way17:03
nosrednaekimxfce is nice on older HW... but I usually end up missing my KDE :)17:04
mrunagixfce is ugly =(17:05
GAZEL    PCI: BIOS bug:MCFG area at f000000 is not17:05
GAZEL    PCI: Not using MMCONFIG17:05
GAZEL    ACPI: Getting CPU index for acpid 0x317:05
GAZEL    ACPI: Getting CPU index for acpid 0x417:06
GAZELi tried noacpi but this problem still continues17:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:06
GAZELmrunagi: it isnt large text i think, but thanks for suggestion :)17:06
mrunagiGAZEL: its more than 3 lines17:10
mrunagiit doesnt matter what you think it matters what the ops think..........but whatever man its your ban not mine17:11
jpatrickmrunagi: personally I'd mute, not ban17:11
mrunagii dunno the actions that deeply i was just trying to help the fella out =/17:12
jpatrick:) aren't we all?17:12
mrunagino one ever listens to me anyway i dunno why i try17:12
ExilantHi, i'm thinking about encrypting my harddisc (probably only /home), there are some nice tools, but what would be the (k)ubuntu way?17:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about encrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:14
BluesKajhmm "Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key" - Server error...'scuse the caps but I'm quoting the error ..then it says  remove /tmp/ .X0-lock ..which I tried but there's no such command, so i'm stuck with the TTY ... what's to be done ?17:20
stdinExilant: have a read of /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/CryptoRoot.HowTo  (from the cryptsetup package)17:21
BluesKajstdin: any ideas about my X problem ?17:22
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stdinBluesKaj: when you say "there's no such command" what do you mean17:23
sivajiimage i have a dual boot system xp and ubuntu if i remove kubuntu partition , will i be able to use grub to boot xp ?17:23
BluesKajthat was the error response to "remove /tmp/ X0-lock"17:24
ExilantBluesKaj: rm /tmp/X0-lock17:25
stdinBluesKaj: "rm" is the remove command, and it's /tmp/.X0-lock17:25
stdinyou'd want to "sudo rm /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 /tmp/.X11-unix/X0"17:25
stdinerm "sudo rm /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 /tmp/.X0"17:25
stdinthat'll remove the lock and the socket so X should work17:25
mrunaginote that sudo rm is NOT rename.........you will make that mistake one time17:25
mrunagiand only once17:25
stdinthere is no rename, just move ;)17:26
BluesKajok . i forgot rm was remove17:26
mrunagii learned that the hard way17:26
* mrunagi giggles in shame17:26
stdin'whatis <command>' is always a good thing when you don't know17:26
Exilantok, so i'm going to use cryptsetup...17:26
mrunagii thought i knew17:26
mrunagitill the dir didnt exist anymore17:26
jpatrickstdin: awesome, I didn't know that trick17:27
mrunagisweet i dont have to trust people anymore17:27
mrunagipeople tell me to do commands all the time and im like............ok17:27
stdinI always read (part of) the man page before trying a new command, more out of habit than distrust17:28
BluesKajstdin:  .X11-unix/X0 , no such file or directory. /tmp/ is adirectory17:36
stdinBluesKaj: I put "sudo rm /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 /tmp/.X0"17:36
stdin/tmp/.X11-unix/X0 is a socket and /tmp/.X0 is a lock file17:37
wadDo any of you guys use Thunderbird and Firefox under Kubunut? When I click a URL in an email message under Thunderbird, Firefox doesn't notice. Not sure how to fix this problem.17:37
BluesKajok stdin  I'll try again, but i'm pretty sure i followed your comand exactly , last time17:38
stdineverything is under /tmp, if it doesn't exist you may have nuked it already, so just try starting X again17:39
BluesKajstdin:  startx goes to "initializing system services" then stops after 2 icons and reverts back to the login ...looks like a vicious cylcle17:43
stdinwhat about just starting /etc/init.d/kdm ?17:44
BluesKajhang on, trying17:45
BluesKajnope stdin , nothing17:50
stdinhow did the problem start?17:50
whabo guys help please how do i completely remove avant window nagigator ...... when i installed it installed 53 mbs and alot of packages ... but when i removed it it only removed 1 package HELP{ please17:52
BluesKajstdin, I logged in normally and after checking kmail , the screen went black except for the panel , so decided to reboot when i couldn't reconfigure the desktop sceen or the screensaver in system settings17:55
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde417:57
mrunagiwhen is kde4 suppose to be implemented in the repos for kubuntu-desktop17:57
BluesKajnote : my hardware is ok since the XP partiton is still ok, and the extapp in windows can see the files on ext3 /hda217:57
BluesKajI think I should have stayed away from kde 3.5.9...nothing but probs since then17:59
stdinBluesKaj: see what it says in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, look for lines with (EE) and (WW). but ignore font warnings18:01
swattowhats the shortcut for opening terminal please18:01
BluesKajstdin: anyway ..got some errands to do ..BBL18:01
tass1412how to fade the wallpaper-changes?18:01
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nosrednaekimmrunagi» hardy18:02
ArwenTrolltech was bought out by Nokia -- therefore, development status is endangered?18:03
DaSkreechArwen: not currently18:06
DaSkreechCurerntly it's the same except with oodles of money behind it now18:06
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coreymon77whats the point of kde 35918:14
stdinbug fix release18:14
coreymon77shouldnt they be working more on 4?18:15
stdinthey are18:15
Arwencoreymon77, they are18:15
Arwenthe bugfixes are backported18:15
emilsedghfor kubuntu, just bugfixes18:15
coreymon77cause im still waiting for a kde4 konversation to come out18:16
coreymon77x11.app has been crashing alot lately ;)18:16
ArwenI'm still waiting for KDE 4 to come out...18:16
stdincoreymon77: konversation is not part of the KDE project18:16
emilsedghcoreymon77: 3 version will be used in several years.they shouldnt just drop it.also they are not spending mych time on it18:16
coreymon77Arwen: lol\18:16
emilsedghkonversation will be ported soon, but kpete guys has no plan to support irc atm :(18:17
coreymon77ya, until it gets a lot more stable, im not gonna be using it much18:17
redsharkpersonne ne parle le français,18:17
coreymon77my dell box cant handle it, and kde4/mac isnt all that good yet18:17
coreymon77redshark: a bit18:17
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:17
coreymon77redshark: this is the english channel though18:17
redsharkok merci18:18
coreymon77emilsedgh: how do you know about konv being ported?18:18
llutzanyone using a sdr (software defined radio) and linrad or other software with gutsy and may give me some hints?18:18
emilsedghi asked18:19
coreymon77asked who?18:19
emilsedghin a commit digest, if its going to be ported, and one of devs said it will be ported soon18:19
coreymon77and what do you mean by soon?18:19
emilsedghlet me find it18:20
* nosrednaekim read that and was excited18:20
coreymon77time for class18:23
coreymon77bye guys18:23
lzfycan someone please help me getting sound to work?18:23
Sbucatone_lzfy: what's problem18:24
Sbucatone_lzfy: open a terminal type : alsamixer18:25
Sbucatone_lzfy: put everythings to max18:25
lzfyI can see my soundcard in kmixer but I can't hear anything18:25
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots18:25
lzfyI tried that :(18:25
Sbucatone_lzfy: lspci18:25
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jussi01lzfy: which soundcard?18:26
lzfynVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a218:26
lzfychipset is Sigmatel STAC920018:26
Sbucatone_lzfy: wait a bit18:27
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Sbucatone_lzfy: mm i see a lots of folks have problem with this card18:31
Sbucatone_lzfy: have you tried  to compile alsa driver ?18:32
lzfyI also upgraded to Hardy but that also didn't work18:34
Sbucatone_lzfy: mm it seems with feisty that worked...so i have found one has said mmm i ma sorry but uluckly i got few informations around the web18:35
Sbucatone_lzfy: i suggest this try to compile alsa driver i know there is 1.0.16 now18:36
Sbucatone_lzfy: so if doesn't work you can always try to compile ,18:36
lzfythanks anyway18:36
Sbucatone_lzfy: have you seen wiki ? to compiling alsa ?18:36
lzfyi think it has to with the alsa.conf file18:37
blistovanyone know why after updates today, ksmserver is failing to start, causeing all kdm logins to fail.18:37
lzfy /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base18:37
lzfythis file I meant18:37
jussi01blistov: on hardy or gutsy?18:38
blistovi assume gutsy. its for a client.18:38
Sbucatone_lzfy: rigt sometime you should add some line to that files18:38
jussi01blistov: I have not had such peoblems, and Im fully updated18:38
lzfyyeah but I don't know what to add :P18:39
twosouls82blistov: check it with "cat /etc/issue"18:40
twosouls82(ref "I assume"18:40
Sbucatone_lzfy: well if you download alsa driver you can find a nice file where you can get many information18:40
Sbucatone_lzfy: you find that file here alsa-driver-1.0.16/alsa-kernel/Documentation18:41
tininHi, how could I change file asociations in firefox? I just want to open download folders with konqueror18:42
Sbucatone_lzfy: the file is ALSA-Configuration.txt18:42
Sbucatone_lzfy: so download the driver un-pack it ang your should find that file18:42
lzfybtw, how do i can i see what version of alsa i currently have?18:43
Sbucatone_lzfy: you can find in this way18:44
Sbucatone_lzfy: run alsamixer on the top you should find what are your alsa driver and your chip18:45
lzfyheh thanks18:45
lzfyI will try to compile it again18:46
Sbucatone_lzfy: try #alsa18:46
lzfythanks, maybe they know more :)18:47
Sbucatone_lzfy: if you don't find anyone , don't give up...i have found many supporter in that channel18:49
lzfythanks Sbucatone. I will try18:55
lzfythanks for the help :)18:55
ahmoshi,I have enabled power savings so that the monitor shuts off after 45 minutes,now when I desable it, it returns the last settings back after rebooting,anyone can help me plz?18:55
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto18:59
MrJigsawcan i set a partitation as root using live CD ?19:00
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw» chroot?19:01
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box19:01
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw» what do you mean?19:01
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras19:06
ArwenGah.. Hardy desperately needs a new ffmpeg...19:09
mrunagi_i get to fight with my webcam again lol19:09
mrunagi_i know it works i just dont know how i got it to work19:10
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tininHi, how could I change file asociations in firefox? I just want to open download folders with konqueror19:20
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins19:20
jussi01tinin: system settings -> default apps should have it i think19:23
cr64never buy anything from newegg that has "mail in rebate"19:25
cr64Everything I bought that was advertized with rebates, the rebates don't start effect unil the next week.19:25
cr64just lost like $30019:26
nosrednaekimcr64» I think you can still claim them19:27
nosrednaekimif they did the rebate within 14 days I think.19:27
* Sammuu haistattaa pitkät19:28
prince_jammys!defaultapp | tinin19:28
ubotutinin: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"19:28
cr64the rebates them selves say Feb28-march 1519:28
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mrunagi_hey my cam works19:28
jussi01mrunagi_: great!19:29
mrunagi_now i only use vista for 1 thing instead of 219:29
ahmoshi, I need a little help..anybody can?19:30
jpatrick!anyone | ahmos19:31
ubotuahmos: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?19:31
zzillezzhello, does kubuntu alpha 5 come with both kde 3.5.9 and kde 4.0.1 ?19:32
zzillezzcan you choose to install only one of them or not ?19:33
ahmosi enabled power saving to turn off monitor after 45 minutes..now I disable it but after I reboot my computer I discover that the last settings have been not changed ..any clue?19:33
jussi01!khardy | zzillezz19:35
ubotuzzillezz: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit19:35
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zzillezzcan i paste urls here or not ?19:35
nosrednaekimzzillezz» yes19:36
mrunagi_depends on what its for?19:36
jussi01zzillezz: as long as they are relevant19:36
jussi01zzillezz: quite broken atm19:36
zzillezzthen what's the difference between alpha 5 and this ?19:36
mrunagi_i couldnt seem to install kde4 so im not interested in trying19:36
jussi01zzillezz: that is the kde4 disk19:36
zzillezzso i'm better off installing the alpha 5 atm ?19:37
jussi01zzillezz: its the first one, I used it this afternoon and its not working at all right19:37
jussi01zzillezz: I would suggest furthe questions on this subject be directed to #ubuntu+119:37
zzillezzalright, going to reboot and install alpha5 then19:37
zzillezzsee you at the other side :)19:38
sarahi installed my OS without internet access; how would one suggest i get the propper wireless card drivers? (just burn to CD?)19:38
PriceChildsarah, depends what your wireless card is?19:39
PriceChildsarah, please pastebin the output of lsusb and lspci19:39
PriceChild!paste | sarah19:39
ubotusarah: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:39
ahmosno one helped me :(19:40
saraherg its not on this comp; hold on19:40
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sarahits a PCI card  but not listed in lspci19:41
sarahalso i get a black screen when booting but control alt backspace brings me to the login19:43
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abortddoes apt-get purge uninstall a program?19:48
abortdi cant remember sorry19:48
zzillezzcan i edit partitions when running the live cd ?19:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:49
jussi01abortd: apt-get remove --purge19:49
jussi01abortd: that should completely remove the program19:50
nosrednaekimzzillezz» yes19:50
nosrednaekimsarah» why isn't it listed?19:50
nosrednaekimsarah» is it plugged in? does windows see it?19:51
sarahdont know :( windows sees it fine; it says no network device found when im in the live cd19:51
sarahzzillezz: its called qtparted, under system19:51
zzillezzthanks sarah :)19:52
zzillezzfound it19:52
jinzougenI'm compiling something that requires gmake, `man make` reveals that the make program installed is GNU Make, yet there is no gmake executable. Is my make program the required make program?19:52
jinzougenIs it safe to do something like ln /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/gmake19:52
jinzougenln -s *19:52
sarahwould you guys reccomend getting the windows driver; burning it to a CD; and using ndiswrapper? i cant really think of another way19:53
zzillezzbut it doesn't seem to run from the live cd :(19:53
sarahzzillezz: odd i just used it19:53
zzillezzalpha 5 live cd ?19:53
zzillezzit starts loading and then closes again19:54
martin_zgierzhello, i'm having some difficulties with my fresh installation of kubuntu19:54
nosrednaekimsarah» yeah... that might work19:54
abortdi know i have this program installed19:54
nosrednaekimmartin_zgierz» like what?19:54
martin_zgierzadept updater downloaded all 250MB of updates started installing19:54
martin_zgierzand then there was a problem19:55
martin_zgierzit broke19:55
abortdbut apt-get is not finding it any suggestions?19:55
nosrednaekimmartin_zgierz» ok.... is everything working fine though?19:55
martin_zgierzand now i can't start adept manager to install anything - because that process is still working19:55
crashed_Anyone know a good tutorial for getting VMWare on Kubuntu with WinXP appliance?19:56
sarahmartin_zgierz: killall <whatever the updater is>?19:56
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martin_zgierzwell,the problem is i have no idea what is the name of that process19:57
Sammuif some1 has games for kubuntu, send them to me plz19:57
martin_zgierzit was in the statur bar - it downloaded all newest versions of programs19:58
sarahps ax | grep update19:59
sarahyou could probably restart too if cant be figured out19:59
martin_zgierzi restarted the system two times already:/19:59
sarahand still wont start updater?19:59
martin_zgierzthat's right, i cannot start it20:00
nosrednaekim!adeptfix | martin_zgierz20:00
ubotumartin_zgierz: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:00
sarahcan you run adept on command line?20:00
jhutchins_wkaptitude or apt-get20:01
crashednosred: so how's it going?20:01
nosrednaekimcrashed» great... you?20:02
crashedgood. Finally came back to Kubuntu after a week and a half.20:02
KnYazhi all20:03
KnYazI have a question20:03
nosrednaekimcrashed» of windows?20:03
tokerwhat package do I need to install to make amarok play mp3's?20:04
KnYazI run XChat, he write me: Segmentation fault (core dumped)20:04
crashedYeah. Took me a week of Windows to remember how much it sucked again.20:04
martin_zgierzubotu you're a God:) it worked:) have you got any idea why it could have crashed? so that i new for the next time:)20:04
tokerKnYaz: Sorry can't help ya.. I use Konversation20:05
martin_zgierzsarah: ubotu's solution worked fine:)20:05
KnYazI need client with proxy....20:06
nosrednaekimcrashed» haha20:06
JontyI keep getting syntax errors in my dpkg status file: how can I sort them?20:06
martin_zgierzsarah: have you got any idea why there was such a problem?20:06
KnYazwath you know IRC-clients what work with proxy?20:06
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crashedTrying to get VMWare to work on here.20:08
KnYazçäóô³ó ðóäç üóþþþ Æ(20:08
nosrednaekimcrashed» use virtualbox... vmware is bleh20:08
KnYazplease.. help me...20:08
nosrednaekimmartin_zgierz» yeah... there was a dpkg database lock.... to keep more than one process from using the database at one time20:09
nosrednaekimmartin_zgierz» but adept crashed before it could remove the lock20:09
nosrednaekimso you had to remove it manually20:09
tokercrashed: virtualbox is a lot lighter on system resources... any reason why that one won't work>20:09
crashedAh, perfect. I don't have tough hardware.20:10
crashedLess than a gig of ram, and less than 2 ghz processor. :(20:10
tokercrashed: you will be happier with virtualbox then.20:10
martin_zgierznosrednaekim: so, can i in any way avoid this? or it happen just by coinsidence20:11
nosrednaekimmartin_zgierz» it happens occasionally.... you just gotta remember that command (write it down somewhere)20:12
martin_zgierznosrednaekim: ok:) thank's a lot20:12
tokernosrednaekim: care to repeat that command?  for those of us who missed it?20:12
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ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:12
nosrednaekimthe second one ;)20:12
crashedWhat repository would virtualbox be in?20:13
crashedOr should I just download and install it manually.20:13
nosrednaekimcrashed» actually, the open source version is in the gutsy repositories20:13
tokerthnx. nosrednaekim :)20:14
nosrednaekimcrashed» but the non-open source one is better (USB support).... you can get that from the virtualboax repositories20:14
tzangergood afternoon20:15
nosrednaekimgood afternoon20:15
crashedI don't use USB.20:15
tzangerKDE won't start anymore... I log in and it gets a few items into the startup, then crashes and restarts X... now on slackware I could just telinit 3 and startkde manually to see what was going on, but I'm not sure how to do this with Kubuntu... there is no /etc/inittab to tell me what runlevel is multiuser but not X20:16
tzangerand trying to stop /etc/init.d/x11-common isn't doing it either20:16
tzangerahh, kdm stop, that's a good starting point20:16
nosrednaekimtzanger» its /etc/init.d/kdm20:16
nosrednaekimtzanger» and check what the .xsession-errors file in your home DIR is saying20:17
ublongatahey i have libqca2-dev installed, it comes with a .pc file but pkg-config doesn't find it. wtf?20:17
tzangerps ax20:17
crashedAlright, I installed virtualbox.20:18
crashedWhat would be the next step?20:18
tzangersudo kdm20:18
nosrednaekimcrashed» run it :)20:18
tzangerit looks like the latest adept update to the kde translations has buggered things up20:21
crashedHm, can't seem to uninstall vmware-player. Not sure what it was called.20:21
tzangeris it possible to revert it?20:21
nosrednaekimcrashed» why uninstall it?20:21
crashedUsing VirtualBox now.20:22
crashedOh crap.20:23
crashedsudo apt-get remove vmware* wasn't a good idea.20:23
crashedRemoving xorg ...20:23
nosrednaekimdid you stop it?20:23
tzangernosrednaekim: is it possible to revert the last adept update?  it's not in my /var/log/dpkg.log though20:24
crashedIt removed xserver-xorg20:24
crashedAnd others. :|20:24
crashedIt was too quick.20:24
tzangerand I have no idea what it was (stuck in command line mode here)20:24
nosrednaekimcrashed» run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"20:25
crashedDoes this mean I have to edit my xorg.conf again?20:25
nosrednaekimprobably not20:26
tzangercan anyone here tell me what the last update to the kde translations was?  I'm trying to locate the package that I just updated that buggered up my install20:26
playstation3is there a option to restore system , like on winxp ?20:27
playstation3i dont wanna make a fresh install again20:27
crashedapt-cache search virtualbox returns nothing :(20:27
crashedAh crap, gutsy.20:28
nosrednaekimcrashed» ah right.... you are on edgy...20:28
martin_zgierzand one more question - i'm fresh with KDE;) - is there anyway to sort my contacts in Kopete?20:28
nosrednaekimmartin_zgierz» like by alphabetic order?20:29
martin_zgierzi would prefer to sort by status and then alphabetically20:29
nosrednaekimmartin_zgierz» I think you can.... one moment20:29
tzangeranyone? can I query dpkg to tell me what the modify date of every package I have is so I can tell what package I just updated that caused KDE to crash out?20:31
martin_zgierzoh my, i used adept manager to install kubuntu-restricted-extras and this time again a problem occured and now the database is locked:/ i think i don;t have luck using kubuntu;)20:31
nosrednaekimmartin_zgierz» hum... seems you can't... you can in the KDE4 kopete though20:31
tzangerthe update buggered up kdelibs.po20:32
martin_zgierznosrednaekim: oh my, i used adept manager to install kubuntu-restricted-extras and this time again a problem occured and now the database is locked:/ i think i don;t have luck using kubuntu;)20:33
rysiek|plhi guys20:33
rysiek|planybody willing to debug acpi woes a bit? ;)20:33
Daisuke_Laptop!adeptfix | martin_zgierz20:33
ubotumartin_zgierz: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:33
nosrednaekimmartin_zgierz» I don;t like adept_manager... just use apt-get20:33
nosrednaekimrysiek|pl» such as>20:33
rysiek|pl!pl | martin_zgierz20:33
ubotumartin_zgierz: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl20:33
tzangerapt-file won't tell me which package has kdelibs.po20:34
martin_zgierzyeah, i know this solution, but the problem occured two time within 1hour:/20:34
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rysiek|plnosrednaekim: I am whatch -n 1 -ing /var/log/acpid; I can see all the CPU and button/power events happening and being caught20:34
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: no lid events though20:35
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: BUT the screen gets blanked when I close the lid20:35
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: AND reading /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state gives me "closed" when lid is closed and "open" when it's open20:35
crashedI just installed and configured virtualbox, anyone know how I'd install XP now?20:36
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: so it "kinda works"; but I am unable to use acpi + lid events to put the machine to sleep/hibernate modes20:36
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: as acpi doesn't seem to get the events20:36
nosrednaekimrysiek|pl» can't you just read the proc file?20:36
nosrednaekimcrashed» ask in !vbox20:37
tzangeranyone?  how to find what package(s) provide kdelibs.po?  apt-file updated but not reporting anything20:37
jhutchins_wk!find kdelibs.po20:37
zzillezzkaffeine keeps on asking if i want to install the codecs, again and again ...20:37
ubotuPackage/file kdelibs.po does not exist in gutsy20:38
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: what do you mean "read the proc file"? I can set up a cronjob every minute to check for lid closed/open by reading /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state files20:38
jhutchins_wkzzillezz: I don't use kaffiene, because it keeps finding new ways to break.20:38
jhutchins_wkzzillezz: Use amarok, mplyaer, xine.20:38
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: I even can create a shell script and run it in screen to check it every second20:38
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: but... it's acpid's job, isn't it?20:38
nosrednaekimrysiek|pl» thats what I mean20:38
zzillezzamarok is only for audio right ?20:38
jhutchins_wkzzillezz: Right.20:39
jhutchins_wkmplayer or vlc for video, they "just work".20:39
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: you mean "write the shell script/make a cron job" or "it's acpid's job"? :)20:39
nosrednaekimrysiek|pl» both... but when one doesn't work.. use the other ;)20:39
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: yeah, but I don't like hacky work-arounds20:39
tzangerstupid language pack update is not a new problem20:40
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: the event IS BEING registered - vide blanked display and /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state20:40
BluesKajyup, it totally screwed up my system20:40
rysiek|plnosrednaekim: just acpid doesn't seem to get it20:40
BluesKajcan't login , after the update ...what's the fix ?20:41
crashedAnd #vbox is dead :P20:41
tzangerthere, I'm back in20:41
tzangerlanguage packs... who needs 'em.  :-)20:42
BluesKajwhat's the fix for the lang pak screwup ?20:42
BluesKajthe loginpage just stalls then cycles on and off, on my setup.20:43
noaXessi'm searching for aaudio tool like Magix Musik Maker.. something similar under kubuntu?20:46
BluesKajtzanger ,i just got here so i didn't see what is required to get back into the desktop, (i'n in windoes right now)20:46
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:46
Daisuke-IdonoaXess: no, things in kubuntu tend to be spelled properly :)  seriously though, what does MMM do?20:46
BluesKajafter the lang pack did my system in20:46
noaXessDaisuke-Ido: it's a tool to make sound, sample,.. you can put some bass samples and other in diffrent audio tracks..20:47
noaXessi use audacity for editing audio files..  but need one to make sound..20:48
jhutchins_wkLots of midi/synth programs available, many as pluggins to audio editors like audacity.20:49
noaXessDaisuke-Ido: http://www.magix.com/us/music-maker/20:49
BluesKajany info what that lang pack did to screw things up ?20:49
noaXessDaisuke-Ido: okay.. i will try it :) thanks20:50
ublongatahey i have libqca2-dev installed, it comes with a .pc file but pkg-config doesn't find it. wtf?20:51
BluesKajok, no one knows ... goodbye gutsy , it was junky anyway20:53
blinckhey hello20:56
blinckallo ya personne20:57
aharoonwhere can i find new repos? i didnt change the offecial repos comes wuth kubuntu but i need new repos for new app21:00
mrunagiaharoon: for WHAT app21:00
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mrunagithat didnt answer my question21:00
mrunagiare you after a specific application?21:00
aharoonmultimedia applications codecs and translations programs21:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:01
mrunagianything specific?21:01
Jahromeohi guys for kubuntu are there any other packages than compiz-kde i need to install21:01
mrunagiJahromeo: no but dont expect kwin to be stable21:02
tekstacyis there a limit to the ram kubuntu can use in a desktop?21:02
jussi01Jahromeo: for compiz?21:02
mrunagiid recommend fusion-icon and emerald Jahromeo21:02
Jahromeoyeah mrunagi i know21:02
jussi01tekstacy: for 32 bit yes21:02
Jahromeobut what is package name in kde?21:02
jussi01!compiz | Jahromeo21:02
ubotuJahromeo: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:02
mrunagiJahromeo: do you not know how to search apt?21:02
Jahromeobut i dont know the package name - presume its compiz-kde21:03
mrunagiJahromeo: sudo apt-get install compiz then push tab21:03
Jahromeoor kde-compiz21:03
aharooni want applications for translations i make arabic translations for some movies i want applications allow me to see the movies while i open the subtitle file21:03
Daisuke-Idomrunagi: instead of berating him, how about explaining it nicely.21:03
* mrunagi sits with a blank stare21:03
Daisuke-Idoit's all in how you ask the question :)21:04
Jahromeomrunagi i got it thanks21:04
crashedIs there a hotkey for minimizing all the windows?21:04
mrunagictrl alt d21:04
Jahromeota jussie0121:04
nosrednaekimcrashed» you can set one I think21:04
crashedOh perfect. Thanks.21:04
tekstacymrunagi, thanks, that's handy21:05
aharoonany suggestions?21:06
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aharooni want app to make subtitle allow me to play the movie while i translate the subtitle and support for arabic21:09
jussi01!repeat | aharoon21:09
ubotuaharoon: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience21:09
aharooni was clearing my quistion21:10
Arwenis it just me or is keepassx abandonware?21:12
aharoonok where can i find extra repos for kubuntu 7.1021:12
mrunagiwhat are 'extra repos'21:13
mrunagido those exist?21:13
aharoonnew repos for unofficial applicaions21:14
mrunagias far as i know unofficial applications have their own repos21:14
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php21:15
jussi01aharoon: we dont suggest, or suport such repositories, except for medibuntu21:15
Daisuke-Idowine has its own (that is far more up to date than ubuntu's)21:15
Daisuke-Idojussi01: i would most certainly recommend wine's budgetdedicated repo.21:15
jussi01Daisuke-Ido: possibly, Im not sure on that one (ie. not used), but as I said, we dont support it.21:16
aharoonok maybe someone could help me with uplink game when i open it isee the curser and hear the sound but nothing else just black screen21:17
mrunagido you have correct drivers?21:17
aharoondriver for what?? my vga is s3prosavag built in no need for driver21:18
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mrunagithen im out of helpful tips21:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eyetoy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:22
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mohbanahey is the new kde available for ubuntu21:46
mohbanaspiroo, is it still in testing or fully released?21:47
ublongatamay as well be testing21:48
mohbanacan anyone else confirm please21:50
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde421:51
storbeckI can't stand kde 4.21:52
spiroomohbana: Depends what you mean with fully tested :P21:52
CreationistHow do I get Ubuntu to show a list of available wireless networks?  I used to be able to click the network icon and select a network; then I rebooted.  They are no longer listed.21:52
spirooI would wait until the stable release is coming in July. Which means KDE 4.121:52
storbeckThe menubar is huge and it reminds me too much of Vista.21:53
Arwengah, the upgrade failed...21:53
Arwenf***.... time to reinstall...21:53
mohbanaCreationist, try 'iwlist scanning'21:53
mohbanastorbeck, yes the menu bar should be resizeable21:54
Creationistmohbana: I need a simple GUI way for this to happen ... I'm setting up my neighbor's laptop for him; he's not going to be willing to use the terminal for something so basic.21:54
Creationistmohbana: eth1 - No scan results.21:54
mohbanaCreationist, if the wireless card is detected then it doing 'iwlist scanning' should display it21:54
mohbanaCreationist, wlan0 is not shown on that list?21:55
Creationistmohbana: No... just lo, eth0 and eth121:55
Creationisteth1 is the wireless card, though.21:55
mohbanaiwlist scanning eth1, thats strange21:56
mohbanado you see the nm-applet on your taskbar?21:57
Creationistmohbana: Well, iwconfig lists eth1 as the wireless card too.  And it worked find until I rebooted.21:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icedtea - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:57
DrXi can't mount /dev/sda5, dmesg reported "journal inode is deleted" and e2fsck /dev/sda5 reports "Suprblock has an invalid ext3 journal (inode 0)" and I'm stepping outside my comfort zone with all the fixes it suggests... can someone help with this?21:59
storbeckCreationist: What does iwconfig eth1 say22:00
Creationiststorbeck: IEEE 802.11b/g....... "Broadcom 4318" etc... it's the wireless card.22:00
Creationiststorbeck: Need a pastebin of it?22:01
CreationistOh wait, I can't... I have no internet on that machine ;)22:01
Creationiststorbeck: What info do you need from it?22:02
storbeckDoes it show the ESSID it's connected to?22:02
storbeckIs that what your router is called?22:02
Creationiststorbeck: Nope.22:02
Creationiststorbeck: I'm trying to avoid having to do this manually (non-gui) because my neighbor is NOT going to be okay having to do that.22:03
storbeckYou're setting this up for your neighbor?22:03
Creationiststorbeck: Last time I started the system it just listed the three networks in range, I picked one, it asked for the key and I was good to go.22:03
CreationistIt's his laptop.22:03
storbeckYou tried going to knetwork-manager?22:05
Creationiststorbeck: Right... but even manually entering my ESSID and key don't work.22:05
storbeckHm, is there a wireless switch on the laptop?22:06
storbeckThere's been a few times where I accidently switched it off.22:06
Creationistlol yes, there is... one sec22:07
CreationistHmm... now it's showing me connected at 86% but I can't ping google.com.  There is no connection.22:08
storbeckIs it encrypted?22:09
Creationiststorbeck: Well, it hasn't asked me for the passphrase yet.22:09
DrXany way to undo changes made with e2fsck while it's still running?22:09
CreationistIs there a way to completely reset it all?22:09
storbeckI suppose you could uninstall the drivers, uninstall eth1. Then reinstall22:10
storbeckI'd suggest you set it to ath0 or wifi0 ;)22:11
Creationiststorbeck: It actually is connected to my network, but I don't want my neighbor to be able to do that without having my passphrase...22:11
Creationiststorbeck: Could it have somehow been stored in Ubuntu?22:11
Creationiststorbeck: And I guess my last question would be, how do I set it up so that it automatically connects to HIS wireless network every time he logs in?22:12
logginshow do you install flash?22:12
storbeckSystem -> Administration -> Keyring Manager22:12
Creationistloggins: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree22:13
storbeckCreationist: When he first chooses the wireless network, that will be his default.22:13
Creationiststorbeck: But does that mean the MY network is now HIS default? ;)22:13
logginscool. thx22:14
storbeckEh, at first. But he will change it22:14
Creationistok... and he won't be able to go back to mine without knowing the password, correct?22:15
DrXanyone know how to manually undo a few e2fsck changes (I recorded the original values)?22:15
storbeckAs long as you didn't save it, and he doesn't know how to crack, yes.22:15
Creationisthmm... I don't remember intentionally saving it... don't remember seeing that option.  But okay.  Thanks for your help.22:16
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ubuntuanyone there for hel?22:18
NickPrestaubuntu, we're here22:19
ubuntui want to ask something22:19
NickPrestaubuntu, shoot22:19
ubuntui installed kubuntu now22:19
ubuntuhave problems22:19
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ubuntuwhen open ubuntu and waiting for login22:20
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ubuntuthe screen looks like broken tv :S22:20
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NickPrestaProdin,  so you're having graphical problems (distorted display)?22:21
ExilantHi, I just encrypted my usb drive (cryptsetup), works so far fine with mount, however i cant mount it from konquis media:/22:22
Exilantthere i get shown it as encrzpted device, clicking produces an errorbox: Could not mount device. The reported error was: The drive is encrypted.22:23
Prodini see login screen like a tv have problems with anntene22:23
Exilantanzone knows how to mazbe solve this?22:23
Exilanthappens in gutsy and in hardy22:23
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NickPrestaProdin, do you know which graphics card you have?22:24
Prodini have a onboard card22:24
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Prodinon biostar u8668 d22:24
DrXanyone know how to manually undo a few e2fsck changes (I recorded the original values)?22:25
Prodini heard kubuntu7.10 have problems about graphic?22:25
NickPrestaProdin, have you ever had a non-distorted display?22:26
Prodinwhen i try log in after install22:26
Prodinfirst time22:26
Prodini see a screen distorted22:27
Prodinany many copy22:27
Prodinlike a analog tv22:27
NickPrestaProdin, it sounds like you need to reconfigure your display server. Have you ever used the command line before?22:27
Prodini know only basic server commannds about linux22:28
Prodinlike ls or cd wget22:28
Prodinwhat will i write?22:28
storbeckWhat has happened to linux.... people doesn't even know how to use a command line.22:28
Prodini use linux at my desktop firstly22:29
Prodinsorry :S22:29
DrXdoes e2fsck commit changes dynamically or at the end?  if you committed changes accidently made to a raw disk image, will that image be suspect/unreliable/unstable or do the changes not affect the raw data?22:29
NickPrestaProdin, when you get to that distorted screen, press Control + Alt + F1. That should bring you to a tty. Login and such. Then, issue this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg22:29
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NickPrestaProdin, follow the instructions (the default values are fine for the most part) but when you choose your display driver, choose vesa.22:30
Prodinthis is my display servr?22:30
NickPrestaProdin, you can actually use which you think will work (be it 'nv' for nvidia, 'ati' for ati, etc). Vesa usually works everywhere22:31
Prodinthanks nick i will come after try this:=)22:31
Prodini am on live cd of ubuntu now22:31
Prodinok thanks22:31
NickPrestaProdin, wait22:31
NickPrestaopen up a Konsole on the livecd and type in: grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:32
NickPrestaProdin, see which driver you're currently using (there should be things like 'kbd', 'mouse', 'etc). Type them out here (the values of the Driver line)22:32
Prodindriver: kbd22:33
Prodindriver: mouse22:34
NickPrestaProdin, so the 'savage' driver on the LiveCD work for you (obviously). I would select that driver when you reconfigure your display server. It should work.22:34
Prodinthanks nick :)22:34
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Anasi want to know the differ between sun jdk & icedtea which of thm is better and  faster22:36
evilbugi have a macbook pro and i followed the instructions on the wiki (  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro ) and after i added the startup command for the touchpad,i get a black screen from ubuntu.nothing will load and i can't go into terminal either.22:36
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NickPrestaAnas, as far as I understand it, IcedTea is trying to make OpeenJDK (the free software Sun released recently) usable without relying on non-free components. As for which is better, I would assume the official sun jdk functions better, but I don't have any personal experience with icedtea22:38
storbeckevilbug, Welcome to a macbook.22:39
evilbugstorbeck- thanks.22:40
Anasnice ok i want to know is there repos for eclipse? i installed it from synaptic but its old version not the last version and it didnt updated by synaptic update22:41
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storbeckNo, Eclipse has it's own update system.22:43
storbeckIt should be somewhere in the help menu.22:43
Anasi have to update it from eclipse options??22:43
Anasok i get it thanks22:44
nicolahhow do I avoid magnetic border screen in kde ? (no compiz)22:44
storbeckMagnetic border screen?22:44
nicolahit won't let me move the window above the top screen limit22:45
DragnslcrSystem Settings -> Window Behavior -> Moving22:45
DragnslcrIs probably what you want22:45
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Exilantzes, set border snap yone to none22:47
nicolahit's set to none but it won't let me move the window above top screen limit either22:48
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mrunagianyone able to help me troubleshoot why my ntfs drives arent on my desktop anymore22:49
mrunagior rather they arent when i first load ubuntu22:50
Exilantmrunagi: zou can choose which devices to show22:52
Exilanti never understand the default choices there, too22:52
spirooIs there any possible chance to resize partiions even if they are mounted at the same time? :D22:53
mrunagikubuntu just dropped a bunch of data22:53
mrunagii drag and dropped data from one folder to the other and said move.........22:53
mrunagibut it disappeared!22:53
mrunagiomg this is not funny22:54
mrunagiwhere is it22:54
msirPlanogordyHdid you drop it into /dev/null22:54
mrunagii dont have a dev null22:54
mrunagiim gonna hyperventilate here in a second22:54
mrunaginot cool22:54
mrunagihow do i undo22:54
mrunagiwhere is that data???22:55
eddieftwwhoever is running root and then logged into irc should probably remove themselves from root.:P22:55
* eddieftw points to the userlist22:55
mrunagidid i just lose all that date?22:55
ere4simrunagi, open konsole and type     sudo updatedb && locate "filename"22:56
Exilantmazbe better use find or kfind22:56
Exilantupdatedb will eventuallz overwrite data22:57
* msirPlanogordyH points out that people wayy overexagerate the danger of ircing as root22:57
mrunagifind: Rigs: No such file or directory22:57
Exilant*depending on partition structure and saving from pure databits is painful anzwaz}22:58
miladenhow do i see all the processes in the terminal?22:58
holaim not able to configure my webcam22:58
Exilantor ps aux22:58
abortdhow do i remove a installed program and all of its dependencies?22:59
storbecksudo apt-get remove program22:59
jcgkffycsopenoffice doesn't have any Icons on the toolbars, it's all text, is there some extra package I need to install?22:59
Exilantabortd: rephrase that22:59
abortdi dont feel there is a way to rephrase it22:59
Exilantzou don|t want to remove all its dependencies22:59
abortdi do when it is leaving conf files scattered23:00
msirPlanogordyH  git-svn: Depends: git-core (< 1: but 1:1.5.3~rc7-1 is to be installed23:00
msirPlanogordyHthat doesn't look right..23:00
msirPlanogordyHconsiddering that I had git-svn installed until just recently23:00
msirPlanogordyHwhen ubuntu decided that I wanted to uninstall a bunch of packages without asking me23:00
Exilantabortd, zou can relz on logs of sznaptic and/or aptitude, or mazbe use deborpan23:01
storbeckI take it your 'y' doesn't work, Exilant?23:01
msirPlanogordyHenglish please?23:01
chairmeleonBeing a debian user myself, but not too keen on doing all the configuration, I was thinking of putting the latest kubuntu on my friend's laptop. I have two questions though23:02
storbeckchairmeleon: Ask away23:02
PRODIMhi nick?23:03
chairmeleonIs there any significant performance difference between debian /w KDE and Kubuntu, if anyone knows? And, perhaps most importantly, will there be a clean upgrade path from Gutsy to Hardy?23:03
miladenhow do i see all the processes in the terminal?23:03
Exilantstorbeck: in fact it works... just using the hardy<// cd with the wrong keyboard layout23:03
Exilantso y and z are swapped23:03
miladenIm running photoshop in wine and it has frozen how do i close it?23:04
storbeckchairmeleon: I'm not sure between Debian/KDE and Kubuntu. I've never used Debian. As for a clean upgrade, there should be.23:04
holaim not able to configure my webcam23:05
Exilantmiladen> use top or ps aux. then close with kill or killall23:05
storbeckHaha hola, still trying to get it to work?23:05
miladenhow do i use top or ps aux? just write it in?23:05
holastorbeck: i dont what to do ....im tried all23:06
Exilanttop lists those processes demanding most cpu time on top23:06
Exilanthola> what cam?23:06
chairmeleonstorbeck: I mean, there shouldn23:06
PRODIMNick Presta?23:06
storbeckHaha shouldn't*23:06
storbeckMy mistake.23:06
chairmeleon*there shouldn't be a major difference since (K)ubuntu is built on debian23:07
PRODIMthis is like my problem23:07
storbeckRight Ubuntu is built from Debian.23:07
PRODIMi have the same card23:07
storbeckBut there's some differences.23:07
chairmeleonwhat do you guys reckon is the best? building a debian system or tearing a Kubuntu one down ? :D23:07
holaExilant: 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.23:07
PRODIManyone there for help m eabout graphics card?23:07
storbeckchairmeleon: It all depends on what the person wants.23:08
nareshovHey, is "preload" a good thing to use on a laptop? http://www.techthrob.com/tech/preload.php23:08
storbeckFrom what I've heard of Debian, it requires more configuring than (K)ubuntu23:08
MrJoeyIs it possible to send a signal to badblocks (like SIGUSR1) to find out how far it is?23:08
chairmeleonstorbeck: well he, the intended end user, wants a windows-environment equivalent23:08
chairmeleonand I figured Ubuntu might be very well suited for that, I haven't ran it since 5.1023:09
storbeckI'd go for Kubuntu then. Or rather Ubuntu23:09
chairmeleonWhy rather Ubuntu?23:09
ibkanatI just installed Kubuntu and am having trouble with wifi where may I go to get help? Its a bcm4311 I have had it working in the past.23:09
storbeckPersonally, I think Gnome is more closely related to Windows. Although many will disagree.23:09
ExilantMrJoey: doesn|t it tell zou that anywaz?23:09
chairmeleonI have some things i can't quite come to terms with in gnome23:09
storbeckAs opposed to KDE of course.23:09
MrJoeyIt's just blank23:10
Exilantand apart from that, it can take a long time.23:10
nareshovibkanat: sudo restricted-manager-kde23:10
Exilantjust recentlz waited 7 hours or so23:10
chairmeleonstorbeck: the inability to change the desktop icon text color via gui..that drives me nuts23:10
chairmeleonotherwise I really like gnome, I prefer GTK looks to QT23:10
holaExilant: do you know what can i do?23:10
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ibkanathmm restricted-manager-kde: command not found23:11
storbeckAh, well I use Fluxbox anyway. :D23:11
nareshovibkanat: drop the "-kde" and try23:11
chairmeleonstorbeck: oh wow, too manly for me :D23:11
chairmeleonSince you are a fluxbox user, I have a hard time imagining *buntu was your first distro? Am I right?23:11
^jasonhi can anyone help me?23:12
nareshov!help > ^jason23:12
Exilanthola, sorrz, i am vaguelz familiar with the uvc/drivers, not with that camera23:12
storbeckYou're right.23:12
^jasonive got kubuntu but cant get on the internet with it23:12
npurcifulhey someone type my name23:12
ibkanathmm same..... in the hardware drivers manager I turned it on23:12
MrJoeyCrud, I sent SIGUSR1 to badblocks and lost the terminal program, but badblocks is still running.  How do I find out what it is putting out?23:12
nareshovibkanat: doesn't it ask you to fetch the firmware?23:13
storbeckI've been using Linux for years. Went from RedHat to Slackware to Gentoo to Ubuntu23:13
chairmeleonstorbeck: so, what did you start out with, or at least use prior to Ubuntu?23:13
nareshovheh, another Gentoo -> Ubuntu person :D23:13
ibkanatit did fetch.... and the wlan0 shows in the kdenetwork manager23:13
ibkanatbut the the wireless light wont come on23:13
^jasoncan anyone share any light on this?23:13
chairmeleonstorbeck: oh, that's a funny upgrade path23:14
storbeckHeh, yeah23:14
chairmeleonI've always been a very no-frills kinda guy, from the first moment I settled in Linux, rather..freaked out by preconfiguration23:14
chairmeleonso what made you choose Ubuntu rather than the pretty unconfigured Gentoo?23:14
storbeckEh, I like trying them all out.23:15
nareshov^jason: run 'sudo kcmshell kcm_knetworkconfmodule"23:15
Arwenis there a guide to setting up my own apt repository?23:15
chairmeleonstorbeck: Alright..well..haven't Ubuntu felt sluggish compared to other distros?23:16
storbecksudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list23:16
chairmeleonI kinda got that impression when trying it over at a friend23:16
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^jasonnareshov: what does that do?23:16
storbeckchairmeleon: Not really. I use fluxbox though23:16
storbeckIt's rather minimal.23:16
nareshov^jason: opens up the network configuration dialogue23:16
MrJoeyIs there a way to get the stdout/stderr of a running program when the terminal has been lost?23:16
chairmeleonstorbeck: well I suppose I'll give dear old *buntu a run for it's money :D23:17
MrJoey(the program is still running)23:17
storbeck(K)buntu is pretty plug-n-play23:17
ibkanatnareshov is open the network interfaces but when I click on wlan0 enable it goes on then off real fast23:17
storbeckIf it doesn't work out of the box, there's probably a GUI to set it up. Heh23:18
chairmeleonstorbeck: yeah, I sometimes miss that...I feel a bit schizophrenic23:18
ibkanatnareshov; wont enable23:18
chairmeleonI'm thrilled both by minutious control over everything, and lazy plug-and-play23:19
PRODIManyone can help me about graphic problems23:19
nareshovibkanat: when did you feed the firmware?23:19
ibkanatbefore the last reboot23:19
PRODIMi must use xp i think...23:19
ibkanatthis is a piece of work.. AMD turion x223:20
nareshovI remember doing the same on my friends laptop and it worked peacefully >_>23:20
nareshovPRODIM: what happened?23:20
ibkanatthey just fixed some of the bugs in the 2.6.2423:20
nareshovibkanat: you're using hardy?23:20
PRODIMi have problems about kubuntu23:20
PRODIMI installed it23:20
PRODIMand than when reboot and see firstly login screen23:20
ibkanatI tried the ndiswrapper earlier but messed things up pretty good23:21
PRODIMa distorted windows23:21
PRODIMthan ask at here23:21
nareshovibkanat: not sure about hardy + bcm thing, might have to google a bit or better yet, post on the forums/mailing-lists23:21
PRODIMnickpresta says reconfigure your graphics server23:21
PRODIMi tried savage23:21
PRODIMthan tried vesa23:21
jussi01ibkanat: hardy support in #ubuntu+123:21
ibkanatok thanks for your help.... is there anything I could grep to find out if its installed right?23:22
PRODIMwhen use savage every thing is same23:22
PRODIMand try vesa i see only a black screen23:22
PRODIMand can you help me nareshow23:22
PRODIMand can you help me nareshov23:22
mrunagii dont understand strigi search23:22
nareshovPRODIM: what does 'lspci | grep -i graph" say?23:22
nareshovmrunagi: what do you not understand?23:22
mrunagihow to use it23:23
nareshovwell, click on K-Menu > Strigi Search23:23
nareshovand click on "status"23:24
mrunagii click search and it doesnt do anything23:24
PRODIMi write lspci | grep -i graph at command line but nothing happend23:24
nareshovmrunagi: start indexing/daemon first23:24
nareshovand wait till it builds an index23:24
PRODIMnareshov i write lspci23:24
mrunagithis doesnt make sense23:25
nareshovPRODIM: 'lspci | grep -i vga'23:25
nareshovmrunagi: give me two minutes23:25
spiroois it possible to interlace the picture in kaffeine. it looks like hell.23:25
ibkanatnareshov is there anything that I can grep to find out if my network card is installed right?23:26
PRODIMVGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]23:26
mrunagiis there not a dvd emulator for kubuntu?23:26
PRODIMnareshov VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]23:26
PRODIMnareshov: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]23:27
storbeckdvd emulator?23:27
mrunagiemulates a dvd drive for dvd images23:27
nareshovmrunagi: take a look at this http://home.iitk.ac.in/~nareshov/strigi_running.png Do you get a window like that?23:27
storbeckNever heard of that.23:27
mrunagiyup nareshov23:27
SlimeyPetemrunagi: you can just mount an iso as a drive if that's what you mean23:28
nosrednaekimmrunagi» don't think you need that for linux23:28
mrunagiits not an iso23:28
mrunagiits an mds23:28
nareshovmrunagi: Is the status "indexing" ?23:28
PRODIMnareshov: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]23:28
nareshovyou see the "search" link on the top-left?23:28
nareshovPRODIM: one moment23:28
nareshovok, now click on the search link and search something23:29
mrunagiim just trying to find a directory23:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:29
storbeckmrunagi: locate file23:30
mrunagiseems that i have to flip over to windows for yet something else23:30
* mrunagi screams in frustration23:30
nareshovmrunagi: 'sudo updatedb' first23:30
PRODIMnareshov: ok23:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:32
kornieffJust did apt-get upgrade and kde fails to startwith the following error message:  "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation." Any ideas how to fix it?23:33
Anasis there way to start slide show for .ppt without opening open office23:33
mrunagii do some funky stuff with my pc apparently23:33
nosrednaekimAnas» nope23:34
nosrednaekimkornieff» you using any translations?23:34
Anasok thx23:34
kornieffnosrednaekim: I think so23:35
nareshovPRODIM: you're using kubuntu gutsy, yes?23:35
nosrednaekimkornieff» then you need to uninstall the translation package23:35
kornieffnosrednaekim: How can I do it?23:35
nosrednaekimkornieff» go into failsafe mode23:35
PRODIMi think gutsy (:23:36
nareshovPRODIM: go through https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1578223:36
mrunagiits sad kubuntu cant do anything with mds =(23:36
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PRODIMi cant go to any menu at kde23:37
nosrednaekimkornieff» and run "sudo apt-get remove <name of the translations package>"you can get the name of the package with "apt-cache search translation" and finding the one for your language23:37
PRODIMnareshov: i see logon window like  http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata1eu3.png23:38
PRODIMi cant se desktop23:38
storbeckYou can also type a few letters of the package and press tab.23:38
nareshovPRODIM: :\23:38
nareshovmidori no hibi? :D23:38
nosrednaekimBBL kornieff23:38
kieferhey all, whenever i try to play .rm or .rmvb files i get an error saying that the codec "cook.so" cannot be found, despite it being in "/usr/lib/codecs/cook.so" any help?23:39
PRODIMnareshov:  i found this http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu.devel.kubuntu/2005-12/msg00033.html23:39
nareshovmrunagi: what do you want to do with the .mds file?23:39
PRODIMnareshov: do you think i can use this?23:39
nareshovPRODIM: maybe, not sure23:40
PRODIMhow can i use pgp file23:41
nareshovPRODIM: using kgpg23:41
nareshov(i think)23:41
kiefercould someone point me in the direction of the package i may need that adds support for realmedia formats?23:41
nareshovmrunagi: http://sathyasays.com/2007/12/15/mounting-iso-and-mdsmdf-files-in-linux/23:41
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PRODIMi am a newbie :(23:41
PRODIMsay me how can i use23:42
PRODIMi have a usb drive23:42
nareshovyou know what a .pgp file is?23:42
storbecksudo apt-get install kpgp23:42
PRODIMi thing its driver23:42
kieferstorbeck: is that aimed at me?23:42
PRODIMif i copy this at my usb flash23:42
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nareshovPRODIM: no23:42
PRODIMwhat is it23:42
swattoguys how can I get Konversation to minmize to systray and not taskbar? anyone know please23:42
kornieffnosrednaekim: any way to search only the installed translatons23:43
storbeckNo, it's aimed at the person asking about kpgp.23:43
kieferlol ohk23:43
PRODIMif i use 7.04 will i have problems do you think?23:43
PRODIMi should download it23:43
nareshovPRODIM: read on about pgp - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto23:43
nareshov7.04 is 6 months older than 7.1023:43
npurcifulwould someone try my name23:44
* nareshov tries npurciful 23:44
mrunagii dont understand23:44
PRODIMnareshov: you are an angel (:23:44
mrunagimount gives me options like im doing it wrong or it doesnt recognize mdf.........mdf to iso says the mdf is already an iso23:44
nareshovmrunagi: what does "file that-mds-file" say?23:44
mrunagiFEAR.mdf is already ISO9660.23:45
npurcifulokay one moretime23:45
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.23:45
* nareshov chants npurciful npurciful npurciful 23:45
mrunagioh there it goes23:45
npurcifulthankyou nareshov23:46
PRODIMnareshov: i will use pgp23:46
PRODIMnareshov: but how:(23:46
PRODIMi will put it to my usbdrive23:46
nareshovPRODIM: a .pgp file is not a driver23:46
PRODIMi understand23:46
PRODIMbut how will i use it23:46
PRODIMi am on live cd now23:47
PRODIMif i must copy this at hdd i can23:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gecko - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:47
nareshovPRODIM: that .pgp file won't help you with your graphics, trust me.23:48
storbeckPRODIM: Do you know what pgp is?23:48
PRODIMi read something about it at the site you say23:49
storbeckpgp = Pretty Good Privacy.23:49
PRODIMlook https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1578223:49
PRODIMthis is like my problem23:50
PRODIMscreen corruption23:50
nareshovPRODIM: "Open 'gstreamer-properties', go to the 'Video' section and select 'X Window (No Xv)' as plugin for the default output."23:50
PRODIMi cant see kde desktop23:51
PRODIMi see logon window corrupted:(23:51
storbeckReinstall KDE23:51
PRODIMi reinstalled 3 times23:51
PRODIMi dont want to turn windows hell23:51
PRODIMsave me from the dark :D23:52
storbeckReinstall your video card drivers.23:52
PRODIMi reconfigure for my savge card23:52
PRODIMwhat is the biggest problem do you know? i am a computer expert about windows :D23:52
PRODIMi help everyone about windows ut i dont know linux :(23:53
PRODIMi am so saddd23:53
storbeckGet rid of KDE and install fluxbox.23:53
PRODIMhow can?23:53
storbeckKDE, not Kubuntu.23:53
PRODIMi have kubuntu know23:54
storbecksudo apt-get install fluxbox23:54
mkquiststorbeck - he doenst have to do that23:54
PRODIMthen reboot23:54
mkquistPRODIM: u dont have to do that23:54
PRODIMwhat do you think23:54
PRODIMi must do23:54
mkquistPRODIM: unless u want to use fluxbox as desktop...23:54
PRODIMi am on livecd ubuntu now23:54
PRODIMwhat can i do23:55
mkquistdo u see the grub boot screen?23:55
PRODIMi installed23:55
PRODIMthen wait for lgin screen23:55
PRODIMbut login screen is corrupted23:56
PRODIMand i cant see anything23:56
storbeckThere isn't a cli based install?23:56
PRODIMi promise when i see desktop i will be an expert :D and will help veryone at here:D23:56
PRODIMi installed kubuntu form my cd than i see corrupted windows23:57
mkquistboot into recovery mode and do  - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg23:57
storbeckUse the alternate CD for the install.23:57
PRODIMthen i boot from livecd23:57
PRODIMi do reconfigure23:57
mkquistPRODIM: boot into recovery mode and do - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg23:57
PRODIMi did it mkquist23:58
PRODIMand select savage23:58
PRODIMnothing diffrent23:58
PRODIMthan tried seva23:58
storbeckPRODIM: Do you still have another OS on your computer?23:58
PRODIMand i see balck window23:58
PRODIMi formetted23:59
mkquistPRODIM: try a different driver - what kind of gfx card do you have?23:59
storbeckWhat are you on now?23:59
nareshovlive cd23:59
PRODIMs3 savage23:59
PRODIMi am on livecd23:59
storbeckAre you on a different computer, PRODIM?23:59
PRODIMi installed23:59

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