[00:02] I have a bugfix for MailScanner - Hardy Alpha 5 installs MailScanner version 4.58.9-2 the latest is 4.66.5-3 - which is out of date - however, that's not a huge issue - as it sort-of works, it gives errors about a Var $FIELD_NAME in /usr/share/MailScanner/MailScanner/Message.pm and I fear a few people may get caught by ty this if they upgrade mail servers from 6.06LTS to 8.04LTS... [00:03] the fix for version 4.58.9-2 is to add an extra line - I'll put it on Launchpad. [00:09] alex_mayorga: take a look at bug #180881 [00:09] Launchpad bug 180881 in gdm "Fonts in the GNOME login screen are disproportionately big" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180881 === Dana1 is now known as DanaG [00:20] Don't you just love those random hard-lockups? [00:20] firefox 3.0B3 is the worst beta software I've ever seen [00:21] it crashes a lot, locks up the comp, random GDM restart, slow scrolling. [00:21] locks up the computer?! wtf [00:21] And somehow the repos took out firefox 2! [00:21] how can it do that [00:21] I'm using B3, but not a .deb.. the tgz in my home directory [00:22] teethdood, you using any funky plugins? [00:22] I just love Flash..... [00:22] *segfault* [00:22] teethdood: FF3 is a strange one - and it acts very differntly on different systems... [00:22] asdrubal: sometimes it would gray itself then nothing. Other times it would not even gray itself. I could move the mouse but nothing else [00:22] Every three or so pages on youtube... *segfault* [00:23] Sometimes Firefox will go gray while it's frozen for a while, and then unfreeze and stay grey. [00:23] It's really annoying when that happens. [00:23] DanaG: yes. How come they took off FF2 from the repos? [00:24] It really does annoy me that they don't keep around old versions of things. I mean, WTF are you supposed to do if, say, the new version of HAL breaks battery reporting (and it does!) ? [00:25] FF3 is supposed to fix the "memory leaks" and makes things a lot faster. Not so. It even removed the HOME button without a trace [00:25] There's a home button on my links bar. [00:26] I mean...Home is the quickest way to browse away from that porn you've been looking at [00:27] hehe erm j/k [00:29] teethdood, there was recently an ubuntuforums post on that. It turns out the removal of home was a distro choice if I recall.. [00:30] DanaG: not-upgrade to alpha versions [00:33] Better solution: read changelogs before you install things! [00:33] I do that. That's exactly why I haven't updated HAL in a while, and I won't update until the battery bug is fixed. [00:33] I'm having a problem switching between keyboard layouts in Hardy Heron Alpha 5. After I switch to the Hebrew Phonetic layout, it won't switch back to English or any other layout I have. Can anyone help? [00:33] DanaG: You should be able to pin it back [00:59] is hardy going to use network-manager 7.0? [01:10] I checked gparted, fdisk, but there is no Option for protected usb drive with password? any Help please [01:13] Protected USB drive with password? That doesn't seem like a standard partition type to me. === nekostar is now known as newb [01:25] hey [01:25] hey [01:26] is the nvida driver supposed to work ? [01:26] becuase it does not for me [01:26] Can you be more specific? [01:26] !work [01:26] Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [01:27] it installs [01:27] but sticks me in 640x800 === newb is now known as nekostar [01:27] and wont let me change that [01:28] Broken EDID? [01:28] anyone know how to enable acer-wmi? [01:29] supposidly acer acpi has been backported, but is it a module or what? [01:29] dana i dont think so [01:29] i get full resolution with non nvida driver [01:30] scratch that no i dont [01:31] Backport acer-wmi to hardy 2.6.24 kernel ..... says fix committed. but how do i check it? [01:32] i am going to enable them and restart my computer again [01:32] brb [01:32] anyway backported modules dont show up [01:33] anyone familiar with PS3 as a media center, including using a wireless keyboard with it and Ubuntu/other Distro? [01:43] im back [01:43] it locked me in 640x480 [01:44] the screen an graphics preferance area does not work either [01:45] does this area work for any of you ? [01:47] Hmm, dig around in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to try to find anything that looks like an error. Don't paste anything more than, say, one or two lines, here. [01:49] the terminal says permision denied [01:49] i tried sudo and it says command not found [01:50] i also tried root [01:50] does that mean i am missing the file ? [01:52] It's a file, not an executable. [01:52] go to console and 'less /var/log/Xorg.0.log' [01:52] ty === fr500 is now known as andr [01:57] (--) NV(0): Trying load detection on VGA0 ... nothing. [01:58] does that mean there is no monitor plugged in via vga ? [02:00] I don't know what your configuration is. [02:00] just chrcking [02:00] becuase mine is on via dvi [02:01] (II) NV(0): Output VGA1 connected [02:01] but would that be my dvi ? [02:01] That seems odd... maybe it's using the analog part of DVI. [02:02] the dvi is connected to an adapter on my monitor that converts it to vga [02:03] Aah, then that is right -- it's just vga2 then. [02:03] ok [02:03] in that case [02:04] there are no problems i can find [02:04] in that file [02:05] but i cant read hex [02:06] can anyone help me get nautilus as teh default file manager instead of thunar? When I upgraded to hardy, it switched to thunar on me when I access things via the places menu [02:07] Hmm, anything about EDID or DDC on the xorg log? [02:08] looking [02:09] is there a way to search the text ? [02:10] (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus 0... [02:10] (II) NV(0): I2C device "I2C0:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. [02:10] (II) NV(0): I2C device "I2C0:ddc2" removed. [02:10] is that the problem ? [02:13] gnomy, the pref->monitor is broken due to bug 138189 I believe [02:13] Launchpad bug 138189 in pykdeextensions "application tries to dlopen /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so (only found in the -dev package) " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138189 [02:13] I'm not sure what to do about the ddc thing. [02:14] so i have to install python dev ? [02:15] looks like it [02:15] i not i kbuntu though [02:15] im using gnome [02:16] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-219226.html -- something about monitors. [02:16] mine does not flicker [02:17] but the prefs dont work on gnome either [02:17] I get that bug is more broad [02:18] ya [02:20] i might try gusty again [02:20] my windows install got fubar i think [02:21] i installed on a seperate hardrive [02:21] but windows does not show up in my boot loader [02:21] Hmm, that's easy enough to fix. [02:21] i get my windows disk [02:22] and use the recovery console right [02:22] You just need toadd the proper entry to the menu.lst to add windows to the grub listing [02:22] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108428 [02:22] did you install windows first or after linux? [02:22] first [02:22] but i think it was atached to bot drives [02:23] both [02:23] like my boot .ini was on a differant drive than my windows install [02:23] Dang, we so need a GDM theme to go with the new wallpaper. [02:23] gnomy, no idea on that. I dont keep windows so complex. [02:23] i can fix it [02:23] i just dont want to [02:23] I keeop windows on hd #1 and linux on HD #2. i let grub handle the booting [02:24] thats what i would do [02:24] if windows wasnt evil and always installs to both my hard drives [02:24] hi [02:25] i dont get this 'installing to both' bit. [02:25] Ive never seen it do that. [02:25] it's my retarted boot leg copy [02:25] il live [02:26] you mean the 'restore' disks restore to 2 drives? not actually installing.. [02:26] my windows desk is bootleg [02:26] and when used [02:27] it will install on 2 hard drives [02:27] Hi! does anyone know if it works perfectly to connect a laptop running ubuntu 8.04 alpha4 to a projector (vga interface)? [02:27] it might [02:27] i have a bug that would stop me [02:27] but it might not appear for you [02:27] mEck0: It depends on what laptop & drivers, basically. [02:28] RAOF, HP Compaq 6510b, intel gma gfx [02:28] mEck0: The answer should be "yes", then. The command you're after is "xrandr --auto". [02:28] anyone here using bluetooth keyboards? [02:29] RAOF, and I don't even need to reboot? (which you sometimes need when running Windows and connect a projector) [02:29] mEck0: You shouldn't need to reboot, no. [02:29] lime4x4, is there a problem? [02:29] mEck0: There's been some work on a GUI frontend to XRandR, but for now you probably just want to check out the various options of the "xrandr" command. [02:30] thanks for your help guys [02:30] RAOF, ok [02:31] using a logitech mx5000 when i try to unlock the computer from it's screensaver mode the keyboard and mouse aren't working no more i have to unplug the bt dongle then reinsert which then puts the keyboard into usb mode [02:31] Oh hey, is there a way to get 1024x768 when connected to a VGA device with no DDC pin? [02:31] old bugger [02:31] let me digg it for you [02:31] NVIDIA only offers up 800x600 in that situation. [02:33] i know bluetooth was redone in hardy [02:33] DanaG: Hm, suckworthy. Have you browsed through "nvidia-xconfig --advanced-help"? There's undobtedly _some_ arcane option applicable to your situation. [02:34] lime4x4, check bug 32415, see if my comment there helps [02:34] Launchpad bug 32415 in bluez-utils "Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Broken in Dapper/Edgy/Feisty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32415 [02:35] ok i'll have a look at it thanks [02:35] Here's something silly: changing resolution on nvdia, by default, changes the perceived panel size, rather than the DPI. [02:36] That's... odd. But I suppose not much odder than "Refresh rates <=> twinview modes". [02:38] hardy no longer uses hidd [02:44] * Linuturk is running Hardy alpha 5 on his laptop :) [02:44] I like the wallpaper [02:45] It's kinda nice. [02:46] how do I know what alpha I'm on? [02:46] I believe if you keep up with your updates, you are on the most recent [02:46] correct me if I'm wrong though [02:49] but there's not like in RH /etc/release or something? [02:49] alex_mayorga: cat /etc/issue [02:49] Ubuntu hardy (development branch) \n \l === Hydrogen is now known as HydrogenF [02:52] I've got a funny reboot/shutdown bug. This happens in alpha 5, and gutsy. When I attempt to shutdown or reboot, my laptop's screen blanks out, it ignores keyboard input, and my cpu fan kicks on 100% and it won't shutdown until I force a shutdown by holding down the power button. ideas? [02:53] also happens in debian etch too [02:53] Linuturk, thanx [02:53] np alex_mayorga :) [02:53] I did have arch on here, and it didn't happen with arch [02:55] it isn't consistant either. It seems to happen at random [03:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Feta_Kuti_without_blood [03:13] never realized there was "blood" in there [03:13] are there backgrounds on my system somewhere? [03:14] warty-final-ubuntu.png [03:17] a question about wubi, it currently says in the faqs that you cannot install it yet, in your remaining harddisk space [03:17] I thought the whole point was to install in your existing win part and not have to partition? [03:32] mcquaid: maybe they mean unpartitioned space . . . ? [03:33] yes they could mean that [03:35] I'm having trouble uploading photos to Facebook. Firefox says "Start: applet not initialized" and just shows a grey box where the upload area should be. Does anybody else have it working? [03:41] well, that's your problem. You're using Facebook ;p [03:41] RyanPrior, file a bug to facebook :) [03:43] lol, it's obviously a Java problem though. [03:43] It worked in Gutsy, so something about Firefox 3 or the latest Java is screwed up. [03:51] others have reported that--the jre5 and 6 not working--though a dev said that if you install icedtea7 that fixes it RyanPrior [03:51] first uninstalling the others of course [03:52] bazhang: I did install icedtea7, but did not uninstall the others. [03:52] aha [03:52] Do I uninstall everything java-related and start from scratch? [03:53] not sure--he said to just uninstall the jre5 or 6 (depending on what you use) RyanPrior [04:00] hai [04:03] I have some questions about 'wubi'. According to an ars technica article I read, it lets you install without repartitioning. The two questions I have are: can you access the files on your install from Windows, and can you access other files on your Windows from the ubuntu? [04:04] reading from ubuntu the windows files is native, not sure the other way around [04:04] ubuntu can read NTFS [04:04] 1. no (unless you install 3rd party software on windows to see linux file systems) 2. yes. [04:05] wait. how does it store it? is it a big image? [04:05] is there a known issue with hardy and touchpads? [04:05] can you boot into it from grub? [04:05] my touchpad freezes up until i push a key on the keyboard [04:05] it is very random [04:05] sounds like a funky driver or config . . . [04:06] yeah, it's not actually for me, it's for someone else who's been considering trying x/k/ubuntu [04:06] Linuturk, you refering to my quesion? [04:06] sry, yes Burnninator :) [04:06] do you have any suggestions? [04:07] Burnninator: just random speculation [04:07] hmm [04:07] their main issues are that they don't have good read access for ext2/3 on windows and they're skeptical of ntfs support in Linux [04:08] hdevalence: there is a great ext2/3 driver for windows, that works great [04:08] hdevalence: google ext2 windows [04:09] i switched from gutsy because i couldn't put the laptop to sleep, and now i cant get the touchpad to work properly [04:09] Linuturk: there are a couple, apparently she tried one and had a bad time with it [04:09] Burnninator: I've had a shutdown reboot issue since gutsy :) [04:10] We should totally put that in the /topic: "Do *not* install Hardy if you want to fix something in Gutsy". [04:10] http://www.fs-driver.org/ hdevalence [04:10] it was a last resort [04:10] Burnninator: You may need to mess with /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:10] it was that or downgrade to fiesty [04:10] heh, backup before you "mess" with xorg.conf Burnninator [04:11] Linuturk: Nah. If something breaks, just "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf-backup". [04:11] ah, thank you. [04:11] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> anyone with nv gf8600m can share the xorg.conf? mine seems to be configured incorrectly [04:12] RAOF: I like to do that before I play around with it :) [04:12] cept, a cp [04:12] Whereas now moving it out of the way can unbreak X :) [04:12] o yeah, bulletproof in hardy RAOF ? [04:12] But if you've got a synaptics touchpad our new super-autodetect X doesn't add the SHMConfig option, so gsynaptics (and userspace touchpad config tools in general) won't work. [04:13] Linuturk: Not bulletproof (that was in Gutsy, actually), but proper auto-detect. [04:13] ah, so what would i add for my synampitcs toupad RAOF ? [04:13] Linuturk: Unless you're using a binary blob (or dvorak keyboard layout :)) you should be able to go without xorg.conf. [04:14] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> RAOF, xorg didn't detect my touchpad at all [04:14] Linuturk: thanks for the advice! [04:14] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> have to manually add it [04:14] Linuturk: Well, the xorg.conf that dpkg-reconfigure generates should have a section for your touchpad (we don't write empty xorg.conf yet). Just add the Option "SHMConfig" "true" to that section. [04:15] [Hardy]TuTUXG: File a bug? :) [04:15] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> RAOF, i already fix it... [04:15] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> RAOF, and that was with alpha 4 [04:16] [Hardy]TuTUXG: But does it work out of the box? [04:16] lol, RAOF, the default xorg is very sparse in hardy lol [04:16] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> RAOF, at that time, it didnt, with my new thinkpad t61p and the alternative cd [04:17] [Hardy]TuTUXG: It'd be good if you could test that with a newer livecd. If it doesn't work out of the box, file a bug so we can fix it :) [04:17] RAOF: what happened to all the wacom stuff? [04:17] im gunna restart x real quick [04:18] Linuturk: We may be autodetecting it correctly now? === HydrogenF is now known as Hydrogen [04:18] I dunno. [04:18] so, run dpkg-reconfigure xorg ? [04:18] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> RAOF, sure, i probly gonna test it when beta out, and i fixed it easily just add few lines [04:18] [Hardy]TuTUXG: Yeah. Which means that it should be easy to fix :) [04:18] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> right [04:19] It'd be nice if you could test it before then, but not critical ;) [04:19] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ill try after next week (midterm) ;P [04:20] lol, RAOF the dpkg configured xorg is identical to the first [04:21] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, ya, that was happened to me when i tried it couple weeks ago [04:21] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, do u have usb mouse plugin? [04:21] HAH, yes I do [Hardy]TuTUXG [04:22] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> unplug it and restart x and try again [04:22] k [04:22] brb [04:24] [Hardy]TuTUXG: still the same LOL [04:25] didn't work [04:25] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, well, then i dont know what to do.. [04:25] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, what lap u have? [04:25] Toshiba R15-S822 [04:26] toshiba A135-S2246 is what i have [04:26] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, i can share my xorg.conf with u if u want but it's a thinkpad ;P [04:26] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> so the touchpad just doesnt work at all? [04:26] o, it works, but I don't have the fancy side scrolling stuff [04:27] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> oh, u can add those manually [04:27] mine seems to freeze when the hard drive is being accessed, and it only seems to unfreeze when i push a key on the keyboard [04:29] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, and RAOF is right, if u want to use something like gsynaptics u need add the option SHMConfig [04:29] by the way, gsynaptic doesn't work, right? [04:30] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> not if u add that option in xorg.conf [04:30] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> not if u *dont* add that option in xorg.conf [04:30] what's the supported GUI for that now? [04:31] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> for synaptic? [04:31] yes, to configure my touchpad? [04:31] well, it's using the "mouse" driver [04:31] mine* is [04:31] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> if u dont have the SHMConfig option, none of the gui would work [04:32] is that on purpose? [04:32] shouldn't it "just work"? [04:32] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> idont know, most likely a bug [04:32] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> well, with the mouse module, it works [04:32] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> just not fully work [04:34] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, http://pastebin.com/m7e2c9f97 [04:36] heh [04:36] o well, I'll just wait for a few more releases [04:37] heh [04:39] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, come on, it's not that complicated [04:39] I know, but I'm lazy [04:39] I might go back to arch so I don't have this dang reboot problem [04:40] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> make sure u change the severlayout section, module section and add inputdevice for touchpad [04:41] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> what reboot problem u have? [04:41] well, it seems to happen at random when I 1) reboot 2) shutdown 3) or kill X [04:41] my machine locks up hard, and my fan kicks on high gear [04:42] and it stays that way until I force shutdown by holding down the button [04:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> that's wired [04:42] does it with ACPI on and off [04:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> dmesg? [04:43] I can give you one right now, but I can't get one after it locks up, b/c it's . . . locked up [04:43] I have an IBM T43 with a synaptics touchpad, I'm wondering why the option to disable tap-clicking is no longer in the mouse control panel as of hardy-alpha-5. Is there a new way to configure that behavior? [04:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> if that only happens sometime, it must relate to something u were running [04:44] gnome term . . . [04:44] lol [04:44] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> lol [04:44] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, u dont like tap-clicking? [04:44] no, I want to turn it off [04:45] I accidentally click on stuff all the time [04:45] http://pastebin.com/m5d24a2cd << [Hardy]TuTUXG see anything? [04:46] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, no.. [04:46] lol [04:46] see? [04:46] curious problem [04:46] hasn [04:46] hasn't happened in arch yet [04:47] but, happens in cli and X [04:47] I have traced it to the actual reboot command in debian cli [04:47] shutdown -r didn't do it [04:47] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, add: Option "TapButton1" "0" ; Option "TapButton2" "0"; Option "TapButton0" "0", under ur touchpad section of xorg.conf [04:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, make sure to make a backup of xorg.conf first [04:48] [Hardy]TuTUXG: doesn't it seem like something of a regression that before I had a nice easy checkbox to hit and now I'm back to editing xorg.conf? [04:48] I was so happy that ubuntu got me away from all of that :) [04:49] well this is alpha [04:49] joshmoz_: we are still alpha [04:49] lol [04:49] should I perhaps file a bug that the option is not there? [04:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, um.. since it's still alpha, im afraid it's the most efficient way... for me at least [04:50] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, i don't think it's a bug [04:50] why do you think it is not a bug? [04:50] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, maybe becuz the new kernel? [04:51] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, by default, u dont have that much options within xorg.conf [04:51] joshmoz_: Go ahead and file a bug. [04:51] [Hardy]TuTUXG: the UI is there and it works fine by default in stable ubuntu [04:52] joshmoz_: Just promise me you'll search for a pre-existing bug first. ;) [04:52] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, ok, ok, file a bug, im not really that expert ;P [04:52] nhaines: been doing that for 15 minutes, nothing === P2501 is now known as P2502 [04:53] [Hardy]TuTUXG: well, arch is cutting edge, but alpha hardy should be cutting edge too, right? [04:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, it has something to do with the SHMConfig option [04:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, ya... i dont know... [04:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i am not expert~~ [04:53] [Hardy]TuTUXG: right, I tried to install a trackpad control panel, it worked but I can't open the panel because it complains about SHMConfig [04:55] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, so when u file a bug, search for SHMConfig not turned on by default, if it already exit, then u dont need to file another one [04:55] [Hardy]TuTUXG: 2.6.24-ARCH and 2.6.24-8-generic Ubuntu hardy [04:56] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Linuturk, or something to do with gterm? [04:56] how to make gterm to use specified (saved) window size? [04:57] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> P2502, u have to edit the launcher [04:57] nhaines, [Hardy]TuTUXG: looks like bug 155937 [04:57] Launchpad bug 155937 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "SHMConfig should be enabled by default, and gsynaptics should be installed by default on laptops" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155937 [04:58] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> P2502, something like： gnome-terminal --geometry=130x35+100+200 [04:58] [Hardy]TuTUXG: thanks [04:58] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> np [04:59] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> joshmoz_, so it's a bug [04:59] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> confirmed [05:01] o great [05:01] it's tomorrow [05:01] I've got to work now [05:01] arg [05:01] I better go to bed [05:01] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> nite === Frogzoo_ is now known as Frogzoo === andr is now known as fr500 === fr500 is now known as fr500__ [05:26] anyone having network card issues? [05:27] which card? [05:28] anyone that kvm/qemu can emulate lol. [06:02] Hey guys just installed alpha 5 over my osx install(toshiba sattellite laptop). [06:03] Ekgia softphone and idefisk wont see my outbound speakers etc... any ideas? [06:03] sounds etc.. play flash etc.. works. [06:16] h'm - much hd activity, 100% cpu [06:21] why might gnome-listen play sound via /dev/audio if gstreamer is set to use PulseAudio via gstreamer-properties? [06:21] (its a gstreamer app) [06:25] is there a iso of hardy heron? [06:26] dfgas: Install Gutsy and upgrade. It is only a couple of clicks. [06:26] ahh [06:26] i wanted to check out the new thing to install in windows, heh [06:26] But be aware that Hardy is very broken. You will often have trouble installing something, segfaults, etc. [06:27] yah i know [06:27] still alpha, heh, its all good [06:28] :~$ uptime [06:28] 07:32:49 up 1 day, 20 min [06:28] is vlc currently broke? [06:28] * heret1c is impressed [06:29] travisat: runs here. [06:29] interesting I can't get any video in it, totem works just fine, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and I don't see any bug reports about it [06:55] what's the LoCo coordination channel? [06:59] alex_mayorga: jesuits? [07:00] heret1c: ?? [07:02] well they have to be _somewhere_, don't they? 8) [07:03] oh look, they forgot to put a "home" icon inff3! [07:17] * heret1c tips hat at Assid [07:18] hm.. [07:18] got rid of the intruder? [07:18] well [07:18] he took what he wanted [07:18] did anyone else notice that the software sources package is missing in alpha 5? [07:19] im hoping he didnt come back [07:19] problem is i dont know whats using mybandwith again this time.. cause we made soo many changes to the boc [07:19] if its genuine traffic or what [07:19] savvas: sources.list? [07:20] heret1c: i'm not having a problem with sources, but the software-properties-gtk was not installed by default :) [07:20] Assid: etherape? [07:20] traffic usage went up and down already [07:21] savvas: ah I run kubuntu. [07:23] !loco [07:23] Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams [07:27] heret1c: everything ok with adept there right? [07:28] savvas: hunky dory. [07:29] * heret1c uses synapyic and apt, mostly. [07:29] synaptic [07:30] omg adobe implementing DRM in flash to disallow copy of flash videos [07:30] libmac is slow in coming. [07:30] * heret1c can't play his hifi "ape" files yet .( [07:31] P2502: that's the death of flash, ten? [07:32] I assume that means "digital rights management" or sumpn. [07:32] i had read some news about implementing drm in linux also [07:32] ya [07:33] P2502: bet it'd be de-implemented rather fastish (by private initiative) 8) [07:34] isn't linux supposed to be anathema to establishment? [07:35] this is what Stallman talks about, but i doubt about that [07:35] if its going mainstream it will just become another windows [07:36] with rich corporations like red hat leading development [07:36] and selling services [07:37] i'm heretic lol [07:39] P2502: it's a matter of philosophy - bazar or cathedral. can't quite see lin going cat. .) [07:40] do anyone else lack a "home" icon in ff3, btw? [07:47] heret1c: yes [07:48] heret1c: there is a fix - just trying to remember how I did it yesterday [07:49] gryappreciated. [07:51] heret1c: you have to activate the bookmarks toolbar [07:51] then select customize and drag the home icon from there to the toolbar [07:54] heret1c: the home icon only appears in the customize list if you have the bookmarks toolbar checked/selected/active [07:55] grumpymole: doesn't work here (kubuntu) [07:56] i remember it was simple in the end, but took a bit of filddling [07:56] will look around some more [08:01] heret1c: when you add the bookmarks toolbar, is there a home item in the toolbar? if yes, then drag that to your button toolbar [08:02] grumpymole: nope. have installed other themes, don't show in ff. must be a path thing. [08:02] * heret1c investigates [08:06] heret1c: if you have mozgestures, apparently that interferes with this [08:07] heret1c: also check here: [08:07] http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=627967&sid=0d8f5c990ec63351338f4f2d2a761358 [08:10] ah, that ficed it ta .) [08:12] hi ugys [08:22] still no fix for wine in repo? [08:31] ! wine [08:31] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility. [08:34] heret1c: i just decided to use deb from winehq [08:34] but it is not newest [08:34] * heret1c looks oot - sunshine! [08:35] P2502: prudent to wait until it surfaces in the hardy repos, dontcha think? [08:37] another broken one? [08:39] .. or install gutsy. 8) [08:40] * heret1c can't quite see the wisdom of adding beta sw (ff) to an alpha os (hh). [08:42] gutsy livecd randomly chooses 1024x768 or correct 1680x1050 res for me :) [08:42] never know what will happen [08:53] Reinstallation of xserver-xorg is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. [08:53] meh [08:53] I should've kept my old xorg.conf [08:53] oh well :P [09:06] any news about kde4 hardy herdon cd? Then can we dl it? [09:06] is openssh-server on the heron alpha5 server iso? [09:07] Habbie: your first challenge is to boot from hardy cd :) [09:07]