[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[09:19] <lool> mjg59: In bug #185669, it sounds like upstream is commenting that they'd be willing to merge the cheese patch :)
[09:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185669 in cheese "Update hildon UI patch for cheese 2.21.5" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185669
[10:19] <Angelus> Hi guys
[10:19] <lool> Hi
[10:20] <Angelus> I'm just wondering
[10:20] <Angelus> Is ubuntu-mobile usable atm?
[10:20] <Angelus> i'm getting a Kohjinsha SH8 Model and i wouldn't mind using it and testing the builds as well
[10:21] <Angelus> from what i can tell from the repositories its a pretty new project
[10:24] <lool> Angelus: It's supposed to startup and whow an UI; depends what you call usable though :)
[10:24] <Angelus> oh okay
[10:24] <Angelus> because i tired to look at the release schedule and it just points to the hardy one
[10:25] <Angelus> i was hoping to get something that's more or less customised for the kohjinsha hardware than fiddling with xubuntu
[10:25] <lool> AFAIK, we don't test with kohjinsha hardware
[10:26] <Angelus> oh
[10:26] <Angelus> hrm
[10:26] <Angelus> it would be good for me to test with it then, wouldn't it? :P
[10:27] <Mithrandir> it's not really a target platform for us, but you're welcome to help make it work well on the platform
[10:27] <Angelus> hrm?
[10:27] <Angelus> you're concentrating on menlow?
[10:27] <Mithrandir> yes
[10:27] <Angelus> oh okay
[10:28] <Mithrandir> it should work on the kohjinsha too, but as we don't have the hardware nor the manpower to target it, we don't. :-)
[10:28] <Angelus> will it still allow users to use the full blown ubuntu as necessery?
[10:28] <Mithrandir> the usage model is quite different from normal Ubuntu.
[10:28] <Angelus> because i'm getting the impression that the kernel will be stripped down of some sort
[10:29] <Angelus> well i'm just thinking suppose i need to get it up and running for like a presentation 
[10:29] <Angelus> will i still be able to grab the required packages from the ubuntu repositories?
[10:29] <Mithrandir> yes
[10:29] <Angelus> kk :)
[10:29] <Mithrandir> the kernel is slightly stripped down, but it's not completely stripped down
[10:30] <Angelus> doesnt say what the kernel loses on the wiki page though :(
[10:31] <Mithrandir> just try and see if it works for you?
[10:31] <Angelus> nod
[10:31] <Angelus> will update soon
[10:31] <Angelus> :)
[10:31] <Angelus> gtg!
[12:58] <mjg59> lool: Yeah, I just need to send it to them
[12:58] <mjg59> (if you haven't already)
[12:58] <mjg59> I'm just being shit
[12:58] <lool> mjg59: I thought you had rebased on SVN some parts of it
[12:58] <mjg59> lool: Hm, yes
[12:58] <lool> mjg59: But sure, I can happily open an upstream bug with whatever applies
[12:59] <mjg59> I have that sitting around
[12:59] <lool> mjg59: Just post your svn diff to some GNOME bug and mention that you're too busy to continue working on it if you don't have the time :)
[12:59] <lool> perhaps upstream has an hildon device and will happy to simply do it
[13:01] <mjg59> lool: Yeah, I'll try to do that this afternoon
[13:02] <lool> Thanks!
[13:32] <slytherin> Mithrandir: ping back if you are free. Need to discuss bluez-gnome
[13:32] <Mithrandir> slytherin: yo
[13:32] <Mithrandir> slytherin: I uploaded a new obex-data-server this morning, I have a bluez-gnome 0.23 ready to go in once the MIR is approved.
[13:33] <slytherin> Mithrandir: Cool. That is what I was going to ask. :-)
[13:33] <slytherin> Mithrandir: Do you know anyone whom we can bribe for the MIR. :-P
[13:34] <Mithrandir> slytherin: pitti said he'd try to get it done today.
[13:34] <Mithrandir> (he's in CET, like me)
[13:34] <slytherin> Mithrandir: Great. I will step down then. :-)
[13:34] <slytherin> I mean from the 'bugger' role
[13:35] <Mithrandir> slytherin: np.  Thanks for asking though. :-)
[13:46] <mjg59> lool: Main thing to deal with (based on svn) is that it's shifted from glade to gtkbuilder
[13:46] <mjg59> lool: So I'll work out the best way to dealw ith that
[13:47] <lool> Aha
[13:47] <lool> mjg59: You might recall we discussed not having two glade files but doing the hildon toplevel container dance at runtime
[13:48] <mjg59> lool: Yeah
[13:48] <mjg59> I need to brush up on gtkbuilder, I haven't played with it yet
[13:48] <lool> mjg59: Well if you put your finger in gtkbuilder, I wonder whether you might be interested in implementing that :-P
[13:49] <lool> I didn't play with it either; from what I understood it's quite close to glade files with a more gtk-ish API
[13:49] <lool> mjg59: You do know about the conversion script I guess
[13:49] <mjg59> Yeah
[20:16] <zer0mdq> does anyone knows if it will be possible to run ubuntu mobile on a nokia N800 or nokia N810?
[20:18] <inuka_desk> ping amitk
[20:18] <amitk> inuka_desk: pong
[20:18] <inuka_desk> amitk, seems like I do not have the permissions to push to ume, who should I request permission from?
[20:18] <amitk> zer0mdq: No. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/FAQ
[20:19] <amitk> inuka_desk: can you login to zinc now?
[20:19] <inuka_desk> yes
[20:19] <zer0mdq> ok
[20:19] <zer0mdq> thanks amitk ;0
[20:20] <zer0mdq> i'll promise next time to read the faq before asking ;)
[20:20] <amitk> inuka_desk: on zinc, could you execute 'getent groups' and tell me if kernel_ume is listed?
[20:21] <inuka_desk> amitk , kernel_ume is listed
[20:22] <inuka_desk> amitk, or is there a different group for lUM
[20:29] <amitk_> inuka_desk: sorry, got disconnected
[20:30] <inuka_desk> amitk_, thats ok...  kernel_ume is listed but not sure if this is the group for lum 
[20:31] <amitk_> inuka_desk: drwxrwxr-x 8 robr kernel_ume 4.0K 2008-01-29 21:12 hardy-ume-lum.git
[20:32] <inuka_desk> let me try recloning and starting over
[20:32] <amitk_> inuka_desk: what is the error?
[20:32] <inuka_desk> error: unable to write sha1 filename ./objects/fe/ee4b07ce73bfa179e73a187041d335361bfb57: Permission denied
[20:33] <amitk_> inuka_desk: aaah... THAT is a different problem
[20:33] <inuka_desk> also error: remote 'refs/remotes/origin/HEAD' is not a strict subset of local ref 'refs/remotes/origin/HEAD'. maybe you are not up-to-date and need to pull first?
[20:33] <inuka_desk> error: remote 'refs/remotes/origin/master' is not a strict subset of local ref 'refs/remotes/origin/master'. maybe you are not up-to-date and need to pull first?
[20:33] <inuka_desk> I cloned just after you sent out the e-mail about rebasing
[20:36] <amitk_> inuka_desk: I found the problem, the hardy-ume*.git directories aren't setgid. So the files and directories are owned by the users instead of the group.
[20:41] <amitk_> inuka_desk: having it fixed now
[20:46] <inuka_desk> amitk, thanks
[21:40] <inuka_desk> amitk_ , is the bashrc changes supposed to fix the issue I was experiencing, or is an other fix inprogress? I was wondering since the .bashrc change is not working for me
[21:42] <amitk_> inuka_desk: that will avoid future problems. This one was multiple problems - directory not being setgid and jay and you not having umask set correctly
[21:42] <inuka_desk> amitk, oh ok
[22:43] <tonyespy> amitk: ping... you busy?
[22:45] <amitk_> tonyespy: whats up?
[22:49] <tonyespy> just found out what the DEBUG defines weren't getting picked up...  looks like the sd8688 driver was getting inserted and trying to control things.  not sure exactly why, but time to use the blacklist
[22:49] <tonyespy> i mean why...
[23:26] <wirelessdreamer> is there a howto anywhere if i want to try a hands on of a current build?
[23:37] <burner\-> "Flash User Interface" on the ubuntu mobile page caught my attention..
[23:38] <burner\-> does that mean that i could develop the UI by creating .swf-files ?
[23:38] <burner\-> as in Adobe Flash..