[00:00] <fujin> hiya - anyone had any experience with R-C-S and gfs/gnbd?
[00:00] <fujin> I'm looking at buidling a redundant mailaccess/store system
[00:00] <rhineheart_m> okay.. I am having issues with my postfix..it won't send nor receive emails
[00:00] <fujin> two frontend dovecot boxes, two backend gnbd SAN-attached mailstorage (500GB~1TB) boxes
[00:00] <fujin> rhineheart_m: dpkg-reconfigure postfix, answer the questiosn
[00:00] <fujin> more importantly
[00:00] <fujin> paste logs first
[00:00] <fujin> rafb.net/paste
[00:01] <faulkes-> fujin: what about load balancing?
[00:01] <fujin> faulkes-: what about load balancing?
[00:01] <faulkes-> dovecot1 dies, now what
[00:01] <fujin> the dovecot boxes will be L4+ loadbalanced by Foundry ServerIronXL
[00:02] <faulkes-> that answers that then
[00:02] <fujin> mm
[00:02] <fujin> I just need to find a ubuntu-suitable tutorial on r-c-s & gfs & gnbd
[00:02] <faulkes-> I'm not aware of anything offhand, ubuntu-tutorials.com might have something
[00:05] <fujin> bugger it
[00:05] <fujin> it's so ridiculous trying to find any documentation on this
[00:06] <fujin> time to read some manpages I guess
[00:06] <faulkes-> and then write a tutorial for others ;)
[00:07] <fujin> ha
[00:10] <mok0_> alstone: 24
[00:29] <rhineheart_m> how to uninstall postfix? everthing in there.. including the SMTP Authentication enties?
[00:29] <rhineheart_m> how to uninstall postfix? everthing in there.. including the SMTP Authentication entries?
[00:32] <faulkes-> sudo apt-get remove postfix
[00:35] <rhineheart_m> would remove as well as the entries in /etc/ssl/certs/?
[06:34] <soulc> ok so how do I allow my isp to send my server mail?
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> soulc, set them as smart host
[10:56] <Ejdes|Lap> hi
[10:56] <Ejdes|Lap> how do i check the version of a program trough apt???
[10:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ejdes|Lap, apt-policy packagename
[10:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> er, `apt-cache policy packagename`
[11:00] <Ejdes|Lap> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks:D
[11:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ejdes|Lap, np :)
[11:01] <Ejdes|Lap> !google ubuntu postfix server howto
[11:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ejdes|Lap, you can also use dpkg - `dpkg -L packagename`
[11:03] <Ejdes|Lap> okay :)
[11:03] <Ejdes|Lap> i'l put that on my wiki / note list:P
[11:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> np :)
[11:04] <Ejdes|Lap> wiki.ejdesgaard.com there isn't mutch, but there will come more :) and everyone is ofc. welcome to add usefull informaion :)
[11:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> is Nick Barcet in here?
[12:23] <lamont> dpkg -l to see the version, btw
[12:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> lamont, quite true, thanks for the correction.
[12:36] <milestone> is it possible to define search domains within knetworkmanager or networkmanager in general? it keeps overwriting my changes in /etc/resolv.conf. any help is highly appreciated
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> IMHO kill nm and setup your network how you want it :)
[12:45] <faulkes-> generally, servers tend to be static in terms of network setups
[13:04] <ScottK> ubuntu-server doesn't have network-manager, does it?
[13:07] <henkjan> ScottK: it doesnt
[13:08] <ScottK> Then it's a bit off topic here I'd think.
[13:09] <ScottK> I guess he agreed.
[13:09] <henkjan> :)
[13:09] <_ruben> hehe
[13:26]  * faulkes- grumbles at DBI
[13:40] <Stonekeeper> hi. Some programs when being installed throw up a curses screen for user input. Is there a way to get around this so it involves no interaction? thanks.
[14:30] <AnRkey> what groupware servers are worth while on ubuntu server?
[14:30] <AnRkey> any suggestions?
[14:35] <dantalizing> AnRkey i think one of the guys in our group (florida loco) is running egroupware, but all of them, IMO, are really up to your personal taste
[14:35] <AnRkey> ok
[14:35] <AnRkey> my friend in spain also recons that egroupware is a good choice
[14:35] <AnRkey> thanks
[14:36] <AnRkey> it's looking like egroupware is a good choice
[14:37] <dantalizing> there are definitely people using it...
[14:37] <dantalizing> i personally didnt like the UI when i looked at it, but that was a long time ago, so maybe its better, or maybe you love it
[14:40] <faulkes-> citadel?
[14:40] <faulkes-> hey zul
[15:02] <[miles]> yo Stonekeeper not in the land of oz yet?
[15:05] <AnRkey> i see that it's in the uni or multiverse repos
[15:08] <Stonekeeper> heh [miles], no. Housing market very slow :/
[15:21] <ajdebe> Help with configuring OpenVPN
[15:21] <ajdebe> anybody
[15:21] <ajdebe> ?
[15:21] <ajdebe> ?
[15:26] <rhineheart_m> Hello! How to host two sites with different domain names in ubuntu gutsy?
[15:26] <AnRkey> rhineheart_m, it's easy, you want to read up on vhosts
[15:27] <AnRkey> it's a few simple lines in your apacha conf file
[15:27] <henkjan> rhineheart_m: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html
[15:27] <henkjan> rhineheart_m: vim /etc/apache2/sites-available
[15:28] <AnRkey> there henkjan got to it first :D
[15:28] <henkjan> rhineheart_m: vim /etc/apache2/sites-available/yournewvhost.conf
[15:28] <henkjan> rhineheart_m: add your config for the vhost to that file
[15:28] <henkjan> a2ensite yournewvhost
[15:29] <rhineheart_m> I have webmin installed in the server.. can I do it there?
[15:29] <henkjan> that will make a symbolic link from sites-available to sites-enabled
[15:29] <AnRkey> henkjan, i feel like a noob now, i normally just add the config for the vhosts to the top my my apache2.conf file :D
[15:29] <soulc> ok so I have got the mail server sending through my isp but I still can't send email to my server
[15:30] <henkjan> AnRkey: that works, but with seperate config files for your v-hosts your more flexible
[15:30] <rhineheart_m> henkjan: what do I need to do with the /etc/apache2/sites-available/yournewvhost.conf?
[15:30] <AnRkey> henkjan, yeah, i was just thinking that
[15:30] <AnRkey> more control
[15:31] <AnRkey> Checking extension pgsql is loaded or loadable: False
[15:31] <AnRkey> The pgsql extension is needed, if you plan to use a pgSQL database.
[15:31] <henkjan> rhineheart_m: add your vhost configuration to that file
[15:31] <AnRkey> what do i need to install to fix that?
[15:31] <rhineheart_m> henkjan: so how will I do it?
[15:32] <henkjan> rhineheart_m: http://www.debuntu.org/2006/02/22/7-virtual-hosting-using-apache-2
[15:32] <henkjan> AnRkey: where did you get that error from?
[15:32] <AnRkey> egroupware
[15:32] <AnRkey> it runs some tests and thats what it spat out
[15:34] <ajdebe> Help with configuring OpenVPN
[15:39] <AnRkey> henkjan, I get this for the mysql part
[15:39] <AnRkey> The odbc extension is needed, if you plan to use a MaxDB, MsSQL or Oracle database.
[15:39] <AnRkey> Warning Checking extension oci8 is loaded or loadable: False
[15:39] <AnRkey> The oci extension is needed, if you plan to use a Oracle database.
[15:39] <AnRkey> I actually wanna use the mysql db as my backend
[15:39] <AnRkey> i cant find any mysql oci8 package
[15:39] <AnRkey> i found a libmyodbc for mysql but that does not fix the problem
[15:41] <AnRkey> oh man am I a tard or what
[15:41] <AnRkey> the error is about M$Sql not mysql
[15:41] <AnRkey> haha
[15:41] <henkjan> AnRkey: oci8 is only needed for oracle
[15:41] <AnRkey> sorry to bother
[15:42]  * AnRkey slaps himself
[15:45] <soulc> so where is the howto about smarthosts?
[15:47] <henkjan> dpkg --configure $MTA doesnt the trick?
[15:57] <mathiaz> ScottK: what's your opinion on debian bug 465569 ?
[15:57] <ubotu> Debian bug 465569 in cyrus-sasl2 "cyrus-sasl2: Use /etc/sasl2 as primary configuration directory" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/465569
[16:06] <mruiz> hey mathiaz
[16:11] <faulkes-> morning mathiaz
[16:12] <faulkes-> I've been fixing bugs / adding features to what I sent you in mail last night
[16:12] <faulkes-> bugs fixes are in, features I'm still testing
[16:18] <faulkes-> mathiaz: when I get the next part working, I'll give it to the ML to give feedback on
[16:18] <ScottK> mathiaz: lamont and I have discussed it.  From a Postfix perspective it's a don't care right now.  I'd be relucant to migrate Postfx to use that in the next several years because there's TON of documentation that knows Debian puts Postfix SASL stuff in /etc/postfix/sasl
[16:19] <faulkes-> morning ScottK
[16:19] <ScottK> Morning
[16:20] <zul> hey ScottK
[16:20] <ScottK> Heya zul
[16:20] <ScottK> mathiaz: What are your thoughts on it?
[16:21] <lamont> mathiaz: more to the point, postfix just appends it's config directory to the path in the lib, so if the lib moves and the user migrates from /usr/$mumble to /etc/sasl2, then everything keeps on "just working"
[16:21] <mathiaz> ScottK: I don't see anything wrong with their proposal.
[16:21] <lamont> and it uses /etc/postfix/sasl specifically because the config really really really doesn't belong under /usr
[16:21] <lamont> mathiaz: it's not a postfix change
[16:21] <lamont> it's a cyrus-sasl2 change
[16:21] <lamont> and it doesn't affect postfix either way
[16:21] <mathiaz> I wouldn't change the postfix configuration.
[16:22] <mathiaz> ScottK: I think you mentionned cyrus-sasl2 during last uds
[16:22] <ScottK> mathiaz: I'm not particularly familiar with the impact on other SASL users though.
[16:22] <mathiaz> ScottK: with the idea to drop it to universe.
[16:22] <ScottK> mathiaz: I did, but there are to many other users
[16:23] <ScottK> mathiaz: We did (IIRC) get the mail server tasksel to use Dovecot.
[16:23] <mathiaz> ScottK: ok - I though you suggested to only have dovecot sasl in main.
[16:23] <mathiaz> ScottK: and make sure that all apps in main would use dovecot sasl
[16:24] <ScottK> mathiaz: I did, but there are desktop users of it too it turns out (I didn't know that at UDS).
[16:24] <mathiaz> ScottK: ok. Thanks for the clarification.
[16:25] <soulc> ok so now that I can sit here and actually see the reply
[16:25] <soulc> I was on last nite as alstone
[16:26] <soulc> talked to lamont about sending email through my isp
[16:27] <soulc> but I still can't receive email on the server relay rejected but I don't want to enable all email cause then I would get a shitload of spam
[16:29] <ScottK> soulc: What is it you're trying to do and how did you get where you are now?
[16:30] <rhineheart_m> I have this error: upload_max_filesize
[16:30] <rhineheart_m> The server configuration does not allow a good upload capacity (less than 10 Mb per file): 2M
[16:30] <rhineheart_m> how to change it?
[16:32] <faulkes-> rhineheart: you have to be more specific as to what application that limit applies to (I assume php?)
[16:33] <rhineheart_m> yeah..php.. M using php file navigator
[16:35] <rhineheart_m> faulkes: do you know how to solve it?
[16:35] <soulc> installed postfix and configured it via ubuntu via instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[16:36] <soulc> sorry look away for a sec and boom someone replies
[16:37] <faulkes-> rhineheart: in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini search for that value (upload_max_filesize) and change it from 2M to 10M (or whatever M amount you need)
[16:37] <faulkes-> you will then need to restart apache
[16:38] <ScottK> soulc: Which release are you running?
[16:39] <soulc> current 7.04 server
[16:39] <soulc> I guess
[16:40] <ScottK> soulc: 7.10 is the most recent.
[16:40] <soulc> ok then it is 7.10
[16:40] <soulc> server
[16:40] <ScottK> OK.
[16:41] <ScottK> soulc: Please pastebin error messages you're getting and the output of postconf -n
[16:41] <soulc> fixed all of the errors mostly can't load keys etc
[16:41] <soulc> ok
[16:42] <soulc> so where how pastebin?
[16:42] <ScottK> !pastebin
[16:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:47] <soulc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57347/   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57348/
[16:47]  * ScottK looks
[16:53] <soulc> brb
[16:54] <ScottK> soulc: Let me know when you're back.
[16:55] <soulc> back
[16:56] <ScottK> soulc: Where does mail to absolute-zero.com get delivered?
[16:57] <ScottK> To this box, right?
[16:57] <soulc> to straylight
[16:57] <soulc> not the box I am on
[16:57] <soulc> or I guess what do you mean?
[16:58] <soulc> host name is straylight.absolute-zero.com aliased mail.absolute-zero.com
[16:59] <soulc> but I want the email to be <userid>@absolute-zero.com
[16:59] <soulc> box is also alised www.absolute-zero.com
[17:00]  * ScottK looks some more
[17:01] <ScottK> soulc: What do the logs say for that transaction (/var/log/mail.log)?
[17:04] <rhineheart_m> what's the command to make permission 777
[17:05] <soulc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57354/
[17:06] <rhineheart_m> soulc: what's the difference between www-data and 777?
[17:06] <soulc> eh?
[17:07] <soulc> www-data is the userid and group that ubuntu apache uses
[17:07] <soulc> 777 is a chmod setting or could be a group id number
[17:08] <soulc> sudo chmod 777 <path to file>
[17:08] <rhineheart_m> okay..so what if I want to download a file through http? which one I need to do?
[17:09] <ScottK> soulc: The postconf -n you gave me was for straylight, right?
[17:10] <soulc> ummm yes
[17:10] <soulc> yeah top line has command
[17:11] <soulc> you can set owner of the file to www-data or just chmod the premissions to 777
[17:11] <ScottK> soulc: mydestination = mail.absolute-zero.com, straylight.absolute-zero.com, localhost.absolute-zero.com, localhost is missing absolute-zero.com then isn't it?
[17:12] <soulc> yeap
[17:13] <soulc> ok done
[17:13] <rhineheart_m> what do you mean with permission 700?
[17:14] <ScottK> reload postfix and try again.
[17:14] <soulc> ok
[17:15] <soulc> damn that works
[17:17] <soulc> rhineheart_m: sudo chown www-data:www-data <file> or chmod 777 <file>
[17:17] <soulc> thanks
[17:17] <rhineheart_m> you mean.. www-data:www-data and chmod 777 are the same file permissions?
[17:17] <soulc> no
[17:18] <ScottK> soulc: You're welcome.  Please look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and fix it so the next guy doesn't make the same mistake.
[17:18] <soulc> the first is setting owner:group the second is setting file permissions
[17:19] <faulkes-> mode 777 is highly insecure
[17:19] <faulkes-> ownership/group should always take precedence
[17:19] <faulkes-> at least IMO
[17:21] <soulc> ummm scottK first how would I change it and second add <domian> to the line mydestination = server1.example.com, localhost.example.com, localhost?
[17:22] <ScottK> soulc: It's a wiki.  Anyone can edit it.
[17:22] <soulc> I guess it would be example.com
[17:22] <ScottK> Yes
[17:22] <soulc> kk
[17:33] <soulc> don't think rhineheart got what he needed
[17:47] <soulc> damnit no I am getting spam
[17:47] <soulc> man I hate spam
[17:48] <faulkes-> rhineheart: in order for a file to be downloaded via http, it has to be world readable, chmod 644 /path/to/file
[17:48] <faulkes-> soulc: spamassassin is your friend ;)
[17:49] <soulc> is graylisting done at server level?
[17:49] <soulc> I don't even want the stuff to get to my inbox to be moved to my junk box
[17:49] <faulkes-> I'm unfamiliar with what postfix does in regards to Xlisting
[17:49] <soulc> damn have to eat brb
[17:50] <faulkes-> I use spamassassin, it comprises whitelists, blacklists, rbl's and bayesian filters
[17:51] <faulkes-> I set it up for a client awhile ago, they went from getting 1k+ spams / user down to a range of 5 - 40 per user
[17:54] <ScottK> soulc: Start with amavisd-new and integrate that with Postfix.  Use it to call spamassassin.
[17:55] <ScottK> It can also call clamav if you want anti-virus scanning.
[17:55] <ScottK> soulc: Yes.  Greylisting is done at the server level.  There are a number of implementations available to work with postfix.
[18:11] <faulkes-> zul: you here?
[18:11] <zul> faulkes-, maybe
[18:11] <zul> yes
[18:11] <faulkes-> heh
[18:11] <faulkes-> re: ebox 8.04 testing
[18:12] <zul> yep what about it?
[18:12] <faulkes-> I sent email, figured I'd ask here as well, you mind if I forward that request into the server forums
[18:13] <zul> nope go ahead
[18:13]  * faulkes- nods
[18:20] <faulkes-> zul: where would you like any reports sent?
[18:20] <zul> to me
[18:20] <faulkes-> email? forums and I forward back? specific LP location?
[18:20] <zul> zulcss@ubuntu.com
[18:20]  * faulkes- nods
[18:20] <faulkes-> will do
[18:28] <soulc> thanks guys for the help got to go to work now
[18:57] <sommer> hey all
[18:58] <sommer> I've cooked up a likewise-open section: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/likewise-open.html
[18:58] <sommer> all reviews and feedback are greatly appreciated :)
[19:16] <mookid> I cant get restricted driver manager to work on server
[19:17] <mookid> I've installed desktop and the restricted driver manager wont load
[19:17] <mookid> :(
[19:21] <faulkes-> sommer: the section on the gui is a little bit ambiguous for credentials
[19:22] <faulkes-> i.e. does it apply to say, gui ssh clients, to gdm logins? to all of the above?
[19:22] <sommer> faulkes-: ya, but since there's more than one way to gui I wasn't sure what to put
[19:23] <faulkes-> hmmm, perhaps an annotation of applications it is known to work with in that fashion?
[19:28] <sommer> faulkes-: it's all logins
[19:28] <sommer> all domain logins that is
[19:53] <sommer>  zul: I'm still getting "ubuntu-xen-server: Depends: linux-xen but it is not installable" when I try to install xen... just fyi
[19:53] <sommer> zul: is there anything I can help with regards to that error?
[19:54] <zul> sommer: afaik the meta package hasn been updated yet so no :)
[19:55] <sommer> zul: okay, is there another way to install xen?
[19:55] <sommer> or how do I find out which packages the meta-package installs?
[19:55] <zul> apt-get source xen-meta
[19:56] <sommer> ah, cool thanks
[20:21] <sommer> zul: should linux-xen be replaced by xen-image-*** ?
[21:08] <nxvl_work> how do i use the domain authentification on ubuntu?
[21:08] <nxvl_work> i can't find the option
[21:09] <nxvl_work> on hardy i mean
[21:09] <sommer> nxvl_work: you man Active Directory auth?
[21:09] <nxvl_work> sommer: yup
[21:09] <sommer> cause if  you do check out: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/likewise-open.html
[21:09] <nxvl_work> thnx
[21:09] <nxvl_work> that's what i was looking fo
[21:09] <nxvl_work> :D
[21:09] <nxvl_work> for*
[21:10] <sommer> nxvl_work: np, let me know what you think... if the guide is unclear, or could use more information
[21:10] <nxvl_work> mmm
[21:10] <nxvl_work> i think for ibex we need to integrate this process with the gdm configuration
[21:11]  * nxvl_work writes on his UDS idea pull
[21:11] <sommer> for server?
[21:11] <nxvl_work> nop
[21:11] <nxvl_work> for workstations
[21:11] <_ruben> hmm .. one of my fileserver kernel panic'ed again .. thought latest kernel upgrade "fixed" that .. any tips on how to troubleshoot or whatnot?
[21:11] <sommer> nxvl_work: gotcha
[21:12] <nxvl_work> sommer: if i'm a user and want to login against my company AD server i really don't want to use the CLI i want a GUI
[21:12] <nxvl_work> (also thats the ubuntu way)
[21:12] <sommer> nxvl_work: there is a gui, but the guide is for server...
[21:13] <nxvl_work> sommer: yes, but i don't want a separate GUI
[21:13] <nxvl_work> sommer: it must be integrated on the gdm config one
[21:13]  * nxvl_work tests
[21:14] <sommer> nxvl_work: right, I beleive the options is going to be added during install... or at some point it will be
[21:14] <nxvl_work> let's see
[21:14] <sommer> nxvl_work: you would still have to join the domain before it could be in gdm, I'd think
[21:15] <nxvl_work> sommer: you should be able to do it in there
[21:15] <nxvl_work> sommer: i will try the GUI to see if new ideas come to me
[21:16] <nxvl_work> sommer: i haven't use likewise ever, so i'm just looking how it works
[21:16] <sommer> nxvl_work: cool
[21:16] <sommer> I'm not sure you'd want to join a domain from gdm ;-)
[21:16] <sommer> or maybe I'm misunderstanding
[21:19]  * _ruben starts a memtest86 run to check for bad mem
[21:24] <nxvl_work> sommer: as a user, if i want to join a domain i want it to be done at login time (like windows does)
[21:24] <nxvl_work> i will talk to the desktop team
[21:25] <nxvl_work> i'm also not founding the gui
[21:25] <nxvl_work> :S
[21:25] <sommer> nxvl_work: you have to login to windows as an administrator first, then join the domain, after which you can login to the domain
[21:25] <nxvl_work> found it
[21:26] <nxvl_work> sommer: that's what i mean
[21:26] <sommer> nxvl_work: okay, I'm with ya
[21:26] <mathiaz> lamont: about bug 162821 - isn't that a duplicate of bug 127184 for the bind9 package ?
[21:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 162821 in gbindadmin "gbindadmin settings differ from that of bind9 package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162821
[21:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127184 in bind9 "Installing bind9 in a chroot" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127184
[21:26] <nxvl_work> sommer: to add the "join domain" option in the gdm configurator
[21:26] <nxvl_work> sommer: and then the domain login option on gdm log in window
[21:27] <nxvl_work> s/gdm/login manager/
[21:27] <nxvl_work> mmm i need to configure an domain for testing purposes, i will do it later
[21:27] <nxvl_work> mathiaz: did you know which are our main goals for ibex?
[21:28] <sommer> nxvl_work: mmmMM... seems like it may be confusing to choose between joining the domain or logging into the domain, but maybe the desktop team will lilke it
[21:28] <nxvl_work> mathiaz: as in what does canonical expects from us?
[21:28] <nxvl_work> sommer: i just a matter of adding a combobox to the login manager
[21:29] <nxvl_work> sommer: also, if i configure a domain is because i will use it every day (in most of the cases)
[21:29] <nxvl_work> i will try to discuss it with the desktop team now and also at UDS
[21:30] <nxvl_work> to see what they think
[21:30] <sommer> nxvl_work: cool beans
[21:30] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: it's up to the community to decide what we want for ibex
[21:30] <lamont> mathiaz: those sound different..
[21:30] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: that's why we'll all gather at UDS to discuss our goals for ibex
[21:30] <nxvl_work> mathiaz: but, also canonical must gave us a general roadmap, or it doesn't happens at all?
[21:31] <mathiaz> lamont: it seems that the part about bind9 was about running named in a chroot
[21:31] <nxvl_work> i mean some initial ideas for developing our roadmap
[21:31] <lamont> mathiaz: that is, installing bind9 to run in a chroot is blocked only by figuring out how to do that safely/correctly for upgrades, (or not), while the other is blocked on gbindadmin figuring out how to work with the dog.
[21:32] <mathiaz> lamont: I'd suggest to fix gbindadmin to work ootb with bind9
[21:32] <lamont> mathiaz: exactly
[21:32] <nxvl_work> sommer: that is desktop team work, doesn't it? we only need to gave them the support they ask for us, didn't we?
[21:32] <lamont> while getting bind9 to chroot by default is orthogonal to what silly admin wrapper package one chooses
[21:32] <mathiaz> lamont: right. so I'd mark the bug as won't fix for bind9 (I don't think you can mark the bug as a duplicate just for the bind9 package
[21:33] <sommer> nxvl_work: not sure I understand your question
[21:33] <mathiaz> lamont: agreed.
[21:33] <lamont> and yeah, "dear bind9, do what gbindadmin wants, kthxbye"  --> WONTFIX
[21:33] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: canonical will be involved in the discussion
[21:33] <nxvl_work> sommer: i mean, to add AD support for gdm is desktop team's work
[21:34] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: but if the community wants to implement something, UDS is the place where we'll discuss this.
[21:34] <sommer> nxvl_work: ah, um... I'd think so, server being non-gui
[21:34] <nxvl_work> mathiaz: that's clear, i'm asking if canonical gave an initial pull of ideas as "we want to go on that way" and then we chose which way we took on this direction
[21:35] <ScottK> nxvl_work: UDS is your chance to push it the way you want it to go.
[21:36] <sommer> nxvl_work: on the gdm thing you might want to take a look at bug #192599
[21:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192599 in likewise-open "GDM support for domain choice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192599
[21:36] <sommer> if  you haven't seen it already :)
[21:43] <jjesse> and while you are working on a gtk app for likewise and making gdm support the domain choice, make it for kdm as well :)
[21:45] <ScottK> And kdm4
[21:45] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: not really.
[21:45] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: come up with your own ideas
[21:46] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: there will be a list of blueprint that we'll discuss during the sprint.
[21:46] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: that's a good indication about the topics
[21:46] <nxvl_work> sommer: something like that is what i'm looking fot
[21:46] <nxvl_work> for*
[21:49] <nxvl_work> mathiaz: oh! i thought canonical traces an initial and general roadmap and then at the UDS the community traces a more specific one
[21:49] <nxvl_work> ScottK: are you attending to UDS?
[21:49] <ScottK> Planning on it.
[21:50] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: no - not really.
[21:50] <mathiaz> nxvl_work: come up with your ideas and we'll discuss them.
[21:51] <nxvl_work> ScottK: woohoo! i'm so exited about all the people i'm going the meet in there
[21:51]  * ScottK is excited about not having to pay to go this time.
[21:51] <nxvl_work> mathiaz: is also fine if i make an open call for ideas by mail or on my blog? or is against the policies?
[21:51] <nxvl_work> ScottK: also that
[21:52] <ScottK> nxvl_work: How you generate your ideas is up to you.
[21:52] <ScottK> But ideas you're going to work on have a better chance of getting approved.
[21:52] <nxvl_work> i think is really usefull to know what the users want to see
[21:53] <nxvl_work> ScottK: yes, but there is always someone who hear a good idea an offers himself to do it :D
[21:53] <nxvl_work> btw
[21:53] <nxvl_work> is there any ssh/crypt specialist inhere?
[22:02] <zul> mathiaz: yo
[22:02] <mathiaz> zul: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/194770
[22:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194770 in samba "samba-common is not installed with samba" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[22:04] <vaughn> Can anyone assist in mounting a Dell Powervault 200s?
[22:08] <zul> mounting as in how?
[22:10] <nxvl_work> is there any ssh/crypt specialist inhere?
[22:12] <vaughn> Well, I can see it but I can't see how to mount it
[22:12] <vaughn> I'm on an IBM eServer x345 and the Powervault is attached via scsi
[22:13] <zul> is it a tape drive?
[22:13] <nxvl_work> vaughn: can you pastebin the output of "dmesg | head"
[22:13] <nxvl_work> err
[22:13] <nxvl_work> "dmesg | tail"
[22:14] <vaughn> Yes, give me a minute
[22:15] <vaughn> It's a RAID5 array
[22:15] <vaughn> Sorry, troubleshooting other stuff while doing this...
[22:22] <vaughn> Ok zul, hrere's the output:
[22:22] <vaughn> vaughn@ivtvm:~$ dmesg | tail
[22:22] <vaughn> [  215.210191] /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 4336 (vmnet-natd)
[22:22] <vaughn> [  215.210214] /dev/vmnet: port on hub 8 successfully opened
[22:22] <vaughn> [  215.914892] eth1: no IPv6 routers present
[22:22] <vaughn> [  216.434176] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[22:22] <vaughn> [  225.133537] /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 4757 (vmnet-netifup)
[22:22] <vaughn> [  225.133581] /dev/vmnet: port on hub 1 successfully opened
[22:22] <vaughn> [  225.219106] /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 4761 (vmnet-netifup)
[22:23] <vaughn> [  225.219147] /dev/vmnet: port on hub 8 successfully opened
[22:23] <vaughn> [  235.797499] vmnet8: no IPv6 routers present
[22:23] <vaughn> [  235.987232] vmnet1: no IPv6 routers present
[22:29] <zul> vaughn, can you use pastebin but Im not sure whats going on
[22:33] <vaughn> Sorry, it's here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57384/
[22:34] <vaughn> Basically, I see that the RAID is on scsi channel 2 but I'm not sure how to mount it correctly
[22:37] <nxvl_work> vaughn: lspci?
[22:39] <vaughn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57385/
[22:40] <nijaba> hello
[22:46] <mookid> hello people =)
[22:47] <mookid> what's the package name for ssh server
[22:47] <mookid> is it sshd ?
[22:49] <vaughn> I think it's openssh
[22:49] <vaughn> or open-ssh
[23:15] <mookid> yeah openssh-server
[23:15] <mookid> dont know where i got sshd from :/
[23:28] <foo> foolano: begone, foolamo!
[23:28] <foo> :)
[23:39] <vaughn> Ok, so I guess the real question is, why doesn't my scsi raid show up in /dev/sda or something?
[23:40] <kgoetz> vaughn: sorry, that questions a copy :p
[23:40] <Nafallo> mookid: the binary ;-)
[23:41] <vaughn> A copy?
[23:41] <kgoetz> vaughn: yeah, its not real
[23:46] <kgoetz> vaughn: hardware/software raid? either way, it uses different device names
[23:46]  * kgoetz just noticed no one answered the question
[23:51] <vaughn> hardware raid
[23:51] <vaughn> kgoetz: it's a Dell Powervault 200s
[23:52] <kgoetz> vaughn: check if you have any /dev/md*
[23:52] <kgoetz> iirc thats hardware raid (but i havent used it in quite a while)
[23:54] <Nafallo> it's dependent on the configuration surely? :-P
[23:56] <vaughn> kgoetz: no /dev/md*