[00:00] hiya - anyone had any experience with R-C-S and gfs/gnbd? [00:00] I'm looking at buidling a redundant mailaccess/store system [00:00] okay.. I am having issues with my postfix..it won't send nor receive emails [00:00] two frontend dovecot boxes, two backend gnbd SAN-attached mailstorage (500GB~1TB) boxes [00:00] rhineheart_m: dpkg-reconfigure postfix, answer the questiosn [00:00] more importantly [00:00] paste logs first [00:00] rafb.net/paste [00:01] fujin: what about load balancing? [00:01] faulkes-: what about load balancing? [00:01] dovecot1 dies, now what [00:01] the dovecot boxes will be L4+ loadbalanced by Foundry ServerIronXL [00:02] that answers that then [00:02] mm [00:02] I just need to find a ubuntu-suitable tutorial on r-c-s & gfs & gnbd [00:02] I'm not aware of anything offhand, ubuntu-tutorials.com might have something [00:05] bugger it [00:05] it's so ridiculous trying to find any documentation on this [00:06] time to read some manpages I guess [00:06] and then write a tutorial for others ;) [00:07] ha [00:10] alstone: 24 [00:29] how to uninstall postfix? everthing in there.. including the SMTP Authentication enties? [00:29] how to uninstall postfix? everthing in there.. including the SMTP Authentication entries? [00:32] sudo apt-get remove postfix [00:35] would remove as well as the entries in /etc/ssl/certs/? [06:34] ok so how do I allow my isp to send my server mail? [09:44] soulc, set them as smart host === MenZa_ is now known as MenZa [10:56] hi [10:56] how do i check the version of a program trough apt??? [10:58] Ejdes|Lap, apt-policy packagename [10:59] er, `apt-cache policy packagename` [11:00] Kamping_Kaiser, thanks:D [11:01] Ejdes|Lap, np :) [11:01] !google ubuntu postfix server howto [11:01] Ejdes|Lap, you can also use dpkg - `dpkg -L packagename` [11:03] okay :) [11:03] i'l put that on my wiki / note list:P [11:04] np :) [11:04] wiki.ejdesgaard.com there isn't mutch, but there will come more :) and everyone is ofc. welcome to add usefull informaion :) [11:20] is Nick Barcet in here? [12:23] dpkg -l to see the version, btw [12:34] lamont, quite true, thanks for the correction. [12:36] is it possible to define search domains within knetworkmanager or networkmanager in general? it keeps overwriting my changes in /etc/resolv.conf. any help is highly appreciated [12:37] IMHO kill nm and setup your network how you want it :) [12:45] generally, servers tend to be static in terms of network setups [13:04] ubuntu-server doesn't have network-manager, does it? [13:07] ScottK: it doesnt [13:08] Then it's a bit off topic here I'd think. [13:09] I guess he agreed. [13:09] :) [13:09] <_ruben> hehe [13:26] * faulkes- grumbles at DBI [13:40] hi. Some programs when being installed throw up a curses screen for user input. Is there a way to get around this so it involves no interaction? thanks. [14:30] what groupware servers are worth while on ubuntu server? [14:30] any suggestions? [14:35] AnRkey i think one of the guys in our group (florida loco) is running egroupware, but all of them, IMO, are really up to your personal taste [14:35] ok [14:35] my friend in spain also recons that egroupware is a good choice [14:35] thanks [14:36] it's looking like egroupware is a good choice [14:37] there are definitely people using it... [14:37] i personally didnt like the UI when i looked at it, but that was a long time ago, so maybe its better, or maybe you love it [14:40] citadel? [14:40] hey zul [15:02] <[miles]> yo Stonekeeper not in the land of oz yet? [15:05] i see that it's in the uni or multiverse repos [15:08] heh [miles], no. Housing market very slow :/ [15:21] Help with configuring OpenVPN [15:21] anybody [15:21] ? [15:21] ? [15:26] Hello! How to host two sites with different domain names in ubuntu gutsy? [15:26] rhineheart_m, it's easy, you want to read up on vhosts [15:27] it's a few simple lines in your apacha conf file [15:27] rhineheart_m: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html [15:27] rhineheart_m: vim /etc/apache2/sites-available [15:28] there henkjan got to it first :D [15:28] rhineheart_m: vim /etc/apache2/sites-available/yournewvhost.conf [15:28] rhineheart_m: add your config for the vhost to that file [15:28] a2ensite yournewvhost [15:29] I have webmin installed in the server.. can I do it there? [15:29] that will make a symbolic link from sites-available to sites-enabled [15:29] henkjan, i feel like a noob now, i normally just add the config for the vhosts to the top my my apache2.conf file :D [15:29] ok so I have got the mail server sending through my isp but I still can't send email to my server [15:30] AnRkey: that works, but with seperate config files for your v-hosts your more flexible [15:30] henkjan: what do I need to do with the /etc/apache2/sites-available/yournewvhost.conf? [15:30] henkjan, yeah, i was just thinking that [15:30] more control [15:31] Checking extension pgsql is loaded or loadable: False [15:31] The pgsql extension is needed, if you plan to use a pgSQL database. [15:31] rhineheart_m: add your vhost configuration to that file [15:31] what do i need to install to fix that? [15:31] henkjan: so how will I do it? [15:32] rhineheart_m: http://www.debuntu.org/2006/02/22/7-virtual-hosting-using-apache-2 [15:32] AnRkey: where did you get that error from? [15:32] egroupware [15:32] it runs some tests and thats what it spat out [15:34] Help with configuring OpenVPN [15:39] henkjan, I get this for the mysql part [15:39] The odbc extension is needed, if you plan to use a MaxDB, MsSQL or Oracle database. [15:39] Warning Checking extension oci8 is loaded or loadable: False [15:39] The oci extension is needed, if you plan to use a Oracle database. [15:39] I actually wanna use the mysql db as my backend [15:39] i cant find any mysql oci8 package [15:39] i found a libmyodbc for mysql but that does not fix the problem [15:41] oh man am I a tard or what [15:41] the error is about M$Sql not mysql [15:41] haha [15:41] AnRkey: oci8 is only needed for oracle [15:41] sorry to bother [15:42] * AnRkey slaps himself [15:45] so where is the howto about smarthosts? [15:47] dpkg --configure $MTA doesnt the trick? [15:57] ScottK: what's your opinion on debian bug 465569 ? [15:57] Debian bug 465569 in cyrus-sasl2 "cyrus-sasl2: Use /etc/sasl2 as primary configuration directory" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/465569 [16:06] hey mathiaz [16:11] morning mathiaz [16:12] I've been fixing bugs / adding features to what I sent you in mail last night [16:12] bugs fixes are in, features I'm still testing [16:18] mathiaz: when I get the next part working, I'll give it to the ML to give feedback on [16:18] mathiaz: lamont and I have discussed it. From a Postfix perspective it's a don't care right now. I'd be relucant to migrate Postfx to use that in the next several years because there's TON of documentation that knows Debian puts Postfix SASL stuff in /etc/postfix/sasl [16:19] morning ScottK [16:19] Morning [16:20] hey ScottK [16:20] Heya zul [16:20] mathiaz: What are your thoughts on it? [16:21] mathiaz: more to the point, postfix just appends it's config directory to the path in the lib, so if the lib moves and the user migrates from /usr/$mumble to /etc/sasl2, then everything keeps on "just working" [16:21] ScottK: I don't see anything wrong with their proposal. [16:21] and it uses /etc/postfix/sasl specifically because the config really really really doesn't belong under /usr [16:21] mathiaz: it's not a postfix change [16:21] it's a cyrus-sasl2 change [16:21] and it doesn't affect postfix either way [16:21] I wouldn't change the postfix configuration. [16:22] ScottK: I think you mentionned cyrus-sasl2 during last uds [16:22] mathiaz: I'm not particularly familiar with the impact on other SASL users though. [16:22] ScottK: with the idea to drop it to universe. [16:22] mathiaz: I did, but there are to many other users [16:23] mathiaz: We did (IIRC) get the mail server tasksel to use Dovecot. [16:23] ScottK: ok - I though you suggested to only have dovecot sasl in main. [16:23] ScottK: and make sure that all apps in main would use dovecot sasl [16:24] mathiaz: I did, but there are desktop users of it too it turns out (I didn't know that at UDS). [16:24] ScottK: ok. Thanks for the clarification. [16:25] ok so now that I can sit here and actually see the reply [16:25] I was on last nite as alstone [16:26] talked to lamont about sending email through my isp [16:27] but I still can't receive email on the server relay rejected but I don't want to enable all email cause then I would get a shitload of spam [16:29] soulc: What is it you're trying to do and how did you get where you are now? [16:30] I have this error: upload_max_filesize [16:30] The server configuration does not allow a good upload capacity (less than 10 Mb per file): 2M [16:30] how to change it? [16:32] rhineheart: you have to be more specific as to what application that limit applies to (I assume php?) === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [16:33] yeah..php.. M using php file navigator [16:35] faulkes: do you know how to solve it? [16:35] installed postfix and configured it via ubuntu via instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix [16:36] sorry look away for a sec and boom someone replies [16:37] rhineheart: in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini search for that value (upload_max_filesize) and change it from 2M to 10M (or whatever M amount you need) [16:37] you will then need to restart apache [16:38] soulc: Which release are you running? [16:39] current 7.04 server [16:39] I guess [16:40] soulc: 7.10 is the most recent. [16:40] ok then it is 7.10 [16:40] server [16:40] OK. [16:41] soulc: Please pastebin error messages you're getting and the output of postconf -n [16:41] fixed all of the errors mostly can't load keys etc [16:41] ok [16:42] so where how pastebin? [16:42] !pastebin [16:42] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [16:47] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57347/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57348/ [16:47] * ScottK looks [16:53] brb [16:54] soulc: Let me know when you're back. [16:55] back [16:56] soulc: Where does mail to absolute-zero.com get delivered? [16:57] To this box, right? [16:57] to straylight [16:57] not the box I am on [16:57] or I guess what do you mean? [16:58] host name is straylight.absolute-zero.com aliased mail.absolute-zero.com [16:59] but I want the email to be @absolute-zero.com [16:59] box is also alised www.absolute-zero.com [17:00] * ScottK looks some more [17:01] soulc: What do the logs say for that transaction (/var/log/mail.log)? [17:04] what's the command to make permission 777 [17:05] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57354/ [17:06] soulc: what's the difference between www-data and 777? [17:06] eh? [17:07] www-data is the userid and group that ubuntu apache uses [17:07] 777 is a chmod setting or could be a group id number [17:08] sudo chmod 777 [17:08] okay..so what if I want to download a file through http? which one I need to do? [17:09] soulc: The postconf -n you gave me was for straylight, right? [17:10] ummm yes [17:10] yeah top line has command [17:11] you can set owner of the file to www-data or just chmod the premissions to 777 [17:11] soulc: mydestination = mail.absolute-zero.com, straylight.absolute-zero.com, localhost.absolute-zero.com, localhost is missing absolute-zero.com then isn't it? [17:12] yeap [17:13] ok done [17:13] what do you mean with permission 700? [17:14] reload postfix and try again. [17:14] ok [17:15] damn that works [17:17] rhineheart_m: sudo chown www-data:www-data or chmod 777 [17:17] thanks [17:17] you mean.. www-data:www-data and chmod 777 are the same file permissions? [17:17] no [17:18] soulc: You're welcome. Please look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and fix it so the next guy doesn't make the same mistake. [17:18] the first is setting owner:group the second is setting file permissions [17:19] mode 777 is highly insecure [17:19] ownership/group should always take precedence [17:19] at least IMO [17:21] ummm scottK first how would I change it and second add to the line mydestination = server1.example.com, localhost.example.com, localhost? [17:22] soulc: It's a wiki. Anyone can edit it. [17:22] I guess it would be example.com [17:22] Yes [17:22] kk [17:33] don't think rhineheart got what he needed [17:47] damnit no I am getting spam [17:47] man I hate spam [17:48] rhineheart: in order for a file to be downloaded via http, it has to be world readable, chmod 644 /path/to/file [17:48] soulc: spamassassin is your friend ;) [17:49] is graylisting done at server level? [17:49] I don't even want the stuff to get to my inbox to be moved to my junk box [17:49] I'm unfamiliar with what postfix does in regards to Xlisting [17:49] damn have to eat brb [17:50] I use spamassassin, it comprises whitelists, blacklists, rbl's and bayesian filters [17:51] I set it up for a client awhile ago, they went from getting 1k+ spams / user down to a range of 5 - 40 per user [17:54] soulc: Start with amavisd-new and integrate that with Postfix. Use it to call spamassassin. [17:55] It can also call clamav if you want anti-virus scanning. [17:55] soulc: Yes. Greylisting is done at the server level. There are a number of implementations available to work with postfix. [18:11] zul: you here? [18:11] faulkes-, maybe [18:11] yes [18:11] heh [18:11] re: ebox 8.04 testing [18:12] yep what about it? [18:12] I sent email, figured I'd ask here as well, you mind if I forward that request into the server forums [18:13] nope go ahead [18:13] * faulkes- nods [18:20] zul: where would you like any reports sent? [18:20] to me [18:20] email? forums and I forward back? specific LP location? [18:20] zulcss@ubuntu.com [18:20] * faulkes- nods [18:20] will do [18:28] thanks guys for the help got to go to work now [18:57] hey all [18:58] I've cooked up a likewise-open section: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/likewise-open.html [18:58] all reviews and feedback are greatly appreciated :) [19:16] I cant get restricted driver manager to work on server [19:17] I've installed desktop and the restricted driver manager wont load [19:17] :( [19:21] sommer: the section on the gui is a little bit ambiguous for credentials [19:22] i.e. does it apply to say, gui ssh clients, to gdm logins? to all of the above? [19:22] faulkes-: ya, but since there's more than one way to gui I wasn't sure what to put [19:23] hmmm, perhaps an annotation of applications it is known to work with in that fashion? [19:28] faulkes-: it's all logins [19:28] all domain logins that is [19:53] zul: I'm still getting "ubuntu-xen-server: Depends: linux-xen but it is not installable" when I try to install xen... just fyi [19:53] zul: is there anything I can help with regards to that error? [19:54] sommer: afaik the meta package hasn been updated yet so no :) [19:55] zul: okay, is there another way to install xen? [19:55] or how do I find out which packages the meta-package installs? [19:55] apt-get source xen-meta [19:56] ah, cool thanks [20:21] zul: should linux-xen be replaced by xen-image-*** ? [21:08] how do i use the domain authentification on ubuntu? [21:08] i can't find the option [21:09] on hardy i mean [21:09] nxvl_work: you man Active Directory auth? [21:09] sommer: yup [21:09] cause if you do check out: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/likewise-open.html [21:09] thnx [21:09] that's what i was looking fo [21:09] :D [21:09] for* [21:10] nxvl_work: np, let me know what you think... if the guide is unclear, or could use more information [21:10] mmm [21:10] i think for ibex we need to integrate this process with the gdm configuration [21:11] * nxvl_work writes on his UDS idea pull [21:11] for server? [21:11] nop [21:11] for workstations [21:11] <_ruben> hmm .. one of my fileserver kernel panic'ed again .. thought latest kernel upgrade "fixed" that .. any tips on how to troubleshoot or whatnot? [21:11] nxvl_work: gotcha [21:12] sommer: if i'm a user and want to login against my company AD server i really don't want to use the CLI i want a GUI [21:12] (also thats the ubuntu way) [21:12] nxvl_work: there is a gui, but the guide is for server... [21:13] sommer: yes, but i don't want a separate GUI [21:13] sommer: it must be integrated on the gdm config one [21:13] * nxvl_work tests [21:14] nxvl_work: right, I beleive the options is going to be added during install... or at some point it will be [21:14] let's see [21:14] nxvl_work: you would still have to join the domain before it could be in gdm, I'd think [21:15] sommer: you should be able to do it in there [21:15] sommer: i will try the GUI to see if new ideas come to me [21:16] sommer: i haven't use likewise ever, so i'm just looking how it works [21:16] nxvl_work: cool [21:16] I'm not sure you'd want to join a domain from gdm ;-) [21:16] or maybe I'm misunderstanding [21:19] * _ruben starts a memtest86 run to check for bad mem [21:24] sommer: as a user, if i want to join a domain i want it to be done at login time (like windows does) [21:24] i will talk to the desktop team [21:25] i'm also not founding the gui [21:25] :S [21:25] nxvl_work: you have to login to windows as an administrator first, then join the domain, after which you can login to the domain [21:25] found it [21:26] sommer: that's what i mean [21:26] nxvl_work: okay, I'm with ya [21:26] lamont: about bug 162821 - isn't that a duplicate of bug 127184 for the bind9 package ? [21:26] Launchpad bug 162821 in gbindadmin "gbindadmin settings differ from that of bind9 package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162821 [21:26] Launchpad bug 127184 in bind9 "Installing bind9 in a chroot" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127184 [21:26] sommer: to add the "join domain" option in the gdm configurator [21:26] sommer: and then the domain login option on gdm log in window [21:27] s/gdm/login manager/ [21:27] mmm i need to configure an domain for testing purposes, i will do it later [21:27] mathiaz: did you know which are our main goals for ibex? [21:28] nxvl_work: mmmMM... seems like it may be confusing to choose between joining the domain or logging into the domain, but maybe the desktop team will lilke it [21:28] mathiaz: as in what does canonical expects from us? [21:28] sommer: i just a matter of adding a combobox to the login manager [21:29] sommer: also, if i configure a domain is because i will use it every day (in most of the cases) [21:29] i will try to discuss it with the desktop team now and also at UDS [21:30] to see what they think [21:30] nxvl_work: cool beans [21:30] nxvl_work: it's up to the community to decide what we want for ibex [21:30] mathiaz: those sound different.. [21:30] nxvl_work: that's why we'll all gather at UDS to discuss our goals for ibex [21:30] mathiaz: but, also canonical must gave us a general roadmap, or it doesn't happens at all? [21:31] lamont: it seems that the part about bind9 was about running named in a chroot [21:31] i mean some initial ideas for developing our roadmap [21:31] mathiaz: that is, installing bind9 to run in a chroot is blocked only by figuring out how to do that safely/correctly for upgrades, (or not), while the other is blocked on gbindadmin figuring out how to work with the dog. [21:32] lamont: I'd suggest to fix gbindadmin to work ootb with bind9 [21:32] mathiaz: exactly [21:32] sommer: that is desktop team work, doesn't it? we only need to gave them the support they ask for us, didn't we? [21:32] while getting bind9 to chroot by default is orthogonal to what silly admin wrapper package one chooses [21:32] lamont: right. so I'd mark the bug as won't fix for bind9 (I don't think you can mark the bug as a duplicate just for the bind9 package [21:33] nxvl_work: not sure I understand your question [21:33] lamont: agreed. [21:33] and yeah, "dear bind9, do what gbindadmin wants, kthxbye" --> WONTFIX [21:33] nxvl_work: canonical will be involved in the discussion [21:33] sommer: i mean, to add AD support for gdm is desktop team's work [21:34] nxvl_work: but if the community wants to implement something, UDS is the place where we'll discuss this. [21:34] nxvl_work: ah, um... I'd think so, server being non-gui [21:34] mathiaz: that's clear, i'm asking if canonical gave an initial pull of ideas as "we want to go on that way" and then we chose which way we took on this direction [21:35] nxvl_work: UDS is your chance to push it the way you want it to go. [21:36] nxvl_work: on the gdm thing you might want to take a look at bug #192599 [21:36] Launchpad bug 192599 in likewise-open "GDM support for domain choice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192599 [21:36] if you haven't seen it already :) [21:43] and while you are working on a gtk app for likewise and making gdm support the domain choice, make it for kdm as well :) [21:45] And kdm4 [21:45] nxvl_work: not really. [21:45] nxvl_work: come up with your own ideas [21:46] nxvl_work: there will be a list of blueprint that we'll discuss during the sprint. [21:46] nxvl_work: that's a good indication about the topics [21:46] sommer: something like that is what i'm looking fot [21:46] for* [21:49] mathiaz: oh! i thought canonical traces an initial and general roadmap and then at the UDS the community traces a more specific one [21:49] ScottK: are you attending to UDS? [21:49] Planning on it. [21:50] nxvl_work: no - not really. [21:50] nxvl_work: come up with your ideas and we'll discuss them. [21:51] ScottK: woohoo! i'm so exited about all the people i'm going the meet in there [21:51] * ScottK is excited about not having to pay to go this time. [21:51] mathiaz: is also fine if i make an open call for ideas by mail or on my blog? or is against the policies? [21:51] ScottK: also that [21:52] nxvl_work: How you generate your ideas is up to you. [21:52] But ideas you're going to work on have a better chance of getting approved. [21:52] i think is really usefull to know what the users want to see [21:53] ScottK: yes, but there is always someone who hear a good idea an offers himself to do it :D [21:53] btw [21:53] is there any ssh/crypt specialist inhere? [22:02] mathiaz: yo [22:02] zul: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/194770 [22:02] Launchpad bug 194770 in samba "samba-common is not installed with samba" [Undecided,Incomplete] [22:04] Can anyone assist in mounting a Dell Powervault 200s? [22:08] mounting as in how? [22:10] is there any ssh/crypt specialist inhere? [22:12] Well, I can see it but I can't see how to mount it [22:12] I'm on an IBM eServer x345 and the Powervault is attached via scsi [22:13] is it a tape drive? [22:13] vaughn: can you pastebin the output of "dmesg | head" [22:13] err [22:13] "dmesg | tail" [22:14] Yes, give me a minute [22:15] It's a RAID5 array [22:15] Sorry, troubleshooting other stuff while doing this... [22:22] Ok zul, hrere's the output: [22:22] vaughn@ivtvm:~$ dmesg | tail [22:22] [ 215.210191] /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 4336 (vmnet-natd) [22:22] [ 215.210214] /dev/vmnet: port on hub 8 successfully opened [22:22] [ 215.914892] eth1: no IPv6 routers present [22:22] [ 216.434176] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [22:22] [ 225.133537] /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 4757 (vmnet-netifup) [22:22] [ 225.133581] /dev/vmnet: port on hub 1 successfully opened [22:22] [ 225.219106] /dev/vmnet: open called by PID 4761 (vmnet-netifup) [22:23] [ 225.219147] /dev/vmnet: port on hub 8 successfully opened [22:23] [ 235.797499] vmnet8: no IPv6 routers present [22:23] [ 235.987232] vmnet1: no IPv6 routers present [22:29] vaughn, can you use pastebin but Im not sure whats going on [22:33] Sorry, it's here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57384/ [22:34] Basically, I see that the RAID is on scsi channel 2 but I'm not sure how to mount it correctly [22:37] vaughn: lspci? [22:39] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57385/ [22:40] hello [22:46] hello people =) [22:47]