PRODIMand know usingf live ubuntu for talk  with you00:00
storbeckSo the LiveCD works fine, but the install got messed up?00:00
storbeckOhh Okay.00:00
PRODIMlive ubuntu ( i take it at 2004)00:00
PRODIMi installed kubuntu because i want kde ubuntu :)00:00
mkquistwell if it works on live cd then it should work on hd install... so somethings screwed up in the xorg.conf i would think00:04
mkquistPRODIM: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but pick vesa or vga and see if you screen works... even at a lower resolution00:05
mkquistPRODIM: you can always put it back if it doesnt help =p00:06
PRODIMi will use vga and 640x48000:06
PRODIMok mkquist00:06
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PRODIMi will pay all beers for you :P00:07
PRODIMi will take u to a good pub :P00:08
PRODIMi am trying00:08
PRODIMreboot my sexy ubutnu  yes!00:08
K`zanHi Folks, I am trying to install the 6.06.2 server and I want to put KDE on it and whatever I tried last night got me pieces and parts, what should I apt-get install to get KDE?00:08
jussi01K`zan: kubuntu-desktop00:09
jcgkffycsany one have any knowledge about using davfs2 to mount webdav as a virtual fs? I keep getting the error "GSSAPI authentication error (Unspecified GSS failure.  Minor code may provide more information: No credentials cache found)" ive tried to google it but I havn't found anything.00:09
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.00:09
K`zanjussi01: Thank you sir, I'll do that and perhaps it will straighten it all out :-).  Much appreciated!00:10
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jussi01K`zan: you are welcome :)00:11
mrunagiwhat do i do with a .c file00:11
K`zanHeh, whatever I did last night got me an "Out of range" on the monitor and I can't switch consoles either, may have to start all over from scratch :-(.00:11
nareshovmrunagi: compile, run ?00:11
K`zanNo ssh access either, sigh, boot CD time :=/.00:12
mrunagihow do you compile a .c file00:12
K`zancc file.c -o file00:13
deurytehelp!!!!!!!!          need to know if there is or are "commands" that bring kde back to default settings / almost like restoring to and earlier date,  i installed gaurddog, and a portsniffing program, and while surfing it eventually quit accessing the web. it dials in, but wont acces a single page.....00:14
mrunagithen what do i do with the output file00:14
Oloughlin75deuryte, no00:14
deuryteOloughlin75: what can i do?00:15
mrunagithis is so confusing00:15
jussi01mrunagi: what is it for?00:15
nareshovmrunagi: chmod +x that-file; ./that-file00:15
mrunagido i need to make /.that-file?00:16
Oloughlin75deuryte, whats guardog for?00:16
mrunagiok then what00:16
Oloughlin75the kernal has built in firewall support00:16
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K`zanFigured it out :-)!00:18
mrunagiwish i could figure it out00:18
K`zanIs there a special channel for the ubuntu server?00:18
stansmithmrunagi sup dude00:19
tekteenK`zan: #ubuntu is for server and desktop00:19
stansmith!ubuntu-server | K`zan00:19
ubotuK`zan: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support00:19
mrunagiwhat kind of server00:20
stansmitha patchy? LOL00:20
mrunagiserver for webpages?00:20
stansmiththats how apache got its name you know00:21
stansmithit was "a patchy" web server00:21
mrunagi i dunno much about apache00:21
deuryteOloughlin75: i found it in add/remove  it was to enhanvce and give firewall more options, which i removed, the other wasthis "  Pnscan is a multi threaded port scanner that can scan a large network very quickly. If does not have all the features that nmap have but is much faster."//  which i am unable to access or see.00:21
Oloughlin75!firewall | deuryte00:22
ubotudeuryte: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).00:22
stansmithhey guys, im having trouble running xeyes00:22
mrunagiam i the only one that doesnt worry about firewalls?00:22
Oloughlin75deuryte, use IPTables and I would remove al lblocked ports/IPs00:22
stansmithi dont, but i prob should00:22
deuryteOloughlin75:  i have firestarter already but thought gaurdog would help even more, this is what it said.........Guarddog is a firewall configuration utility for KDE. It is aimed at two groups of users: novice to intermediate users who are not experts in TCP/IP networking and security, and those users who don't want the hassle of dealing with cryptic shell scripts and ipchains/iptables parameters.00:23
WasserstoffI will give you00:23
stansmithOloughlin75 gone00:23
storbeckiptables > *00:24
mrunagiif i go to school for computer engineering will they teach me web servers?00:24
ublongatahey i have libqca2-dev installed, it comes with a .pc file but pkg-config doesn't find it. wtf??00:24
stansmithmrunagi, maybe00:24
deuryteanyone know how i do this -->>   use IPTables and I would remove al lblocked ports/IPs00:24
mrunagisays i specialize in mcse or cisco00:24
stansmiththey will prob introduce it, its up to you to really learn it00:24
tekteenmrunagi: I do not think so00:24
* stansmith devry graduate 200700:25
nosrednaekimoloughlin75» join #ubuntu-youth:)00:25
storbecklol devry00:25
stansmithdevry really aint that bad, they have the resources for you to use...but its possible to pass without ever using them00:25
stansmiththey pass a lot of retards00:25
deuryteoloughlin75  how do i do this??--->   use IPTables and I would remove al lblocked ports/IPs00:26
oloughlin75deuryte: "man iptables" and learn how00:26
stansmithhello, devry graduate here, im having trouble running xeyes.  can i ask a question on how to fix it?00:26
storbeckWhy would you use xeyes? lol00:27
Wasserstoffhere you go00:28
Wasserstoffhere is your two commands00:28
yaoziyuanjust formatted everything in my computer since high school00:35
yaoziyuanand installed ubuntu/kubuntu-desktop00:35
yaoziyuana new start!00:35
Dr_willisI used a C64 in high school.....00:37
ibkanathmmm still trying to figure out b43 wifi problem help please00:37
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feierfoxhmmm, soon i have to install a *buntu on a laptop. i will never see this laptop again and the user are not interessted into *buntu. is kubuntu the right choise? i ask because it will not have LTS :/00:39
feierfoxwhat would you do?00:39
feierfoxpersonal i prefer KDE, no question00:39
nosrednaekimfeierfox» well, if you are installing gutsy, neither have LTS00:40
feierfoxi talk about hardy00:40
feierfoxand it's a hard question for moe00:40
feierfoxgiving this person a kubuntu WITHOUT LTS or a ubuntu with LTS00:41
feierfoxand i prefer KDE and would wish to spread it00:41
Wasserstoffthen use kde00:41
Wasserstofflts is not that big of a deal00:41
Wasserstofffor the average joe00:41
nosrednaekimfeierfox» do KDE.... within 18 months they will probably want to upgrade anyway... Dell is going with Gutsy00:42
feierfoxhmm, when i have installed the *buntu, i will never see this laptop again00:42
feierfoxand the owner isn interessted into it00:42
feierfoxso i think LTS would be much improtant00:43
tekteenfeierfox: I had the same issue00:43
feierfoxbecause the person would never do a dist-upgrade00:43
tekteenfeierfox: yes the person would00:43
nosrednaekimfeierfox» you are installing Hardy NOW?00:43
feierfoxnever-ever :)00:43
tekteenfeierfox: adept does it00:43
tekteenand tells the user about it00:43
feierfoxno, in the beta stadium00:44
feierfoxhmm, but if i chose kubuntu, on the next dist-upgrade the person is confronted by KDE 4 (!!!)00:45
tekteenfeierfox: I am in a group that refurbs computers and ships them out with windows 2000 (for non-profits) or kubuntu (for people)00:45
Wasserstoffand if you choose ubuntu00:45
Wasserstoffthen on a dist upgrade hopefully in the near future00:45
storbeckWhy are you installing Linux for someone if they have no idea how to use it?00:45
Wasserstoffthe user is encountered by having to switch to kde00:45
tekteenfeierfox: no the person would not get kde400:45
Wasserstoffbecause gnome has finally rolled over and died00:45
Wasserstoffand god knows its about time00:45
feierfoxeverything looks different and this will could confusing the person00:45
tekteenfeierfox: the dist upgrade would upgrade kde300:46
tekteenI know00:46
tekteenthe dist-upgrade will not install kubuntu-kde4-desktop00:46
feierfoxstorbeck, because i think ubuntu is the right coise for people without an idea00:46
Wasserstofffeierfox: then install it..?00:47
WasserstoffI don't see what your problem is00:47
storbeckInstall Windows.00:47
tekteenI know the problem00:47
feierfoxtekteen, what will a dist-upgrade install then?00:47
tekteenupdate kubuntu-desktop00:47
tekteenwhich is kde300:47
tekteenI looked it up :-)00:48
feierfoxmy problem: leaving the laptop with a fresh installed LTS ubuntu or with a kubuntu (which i prefer)00:48
tekteenthen go with kubuntu00:48
Wasserstoffthen use it..00:48
feierfoxthe person who owns the laptop, isnt'interessted in it00:48
WasserstoffALl you will get here00:48
Wasserstoffis opinions00:48
tekteenI install kubuntu with firefox and a few other programs00:48
feierfoxso he will never make a dist-upgrade00:48
Wasserstoffand I'll tel you right now00:48
Wasserstoffthat in the #kubuntu channel00:48
Wasserstoffthe opnion will be, use kubuntu00:48
tekteento make it easy00:48
Wasserstoffin the #ubuntu channel, the opinion will be use ubuntu00:48
Wasserstoffand thats that00:49
feierfoxso the ubuntu with LTS would be the right choise00:49
feierfoxbut i prefer KDE!00:49
tekteenI like kubuntu00:49
feierfoxme to!00:49
tekteenI had this problem00:49
Wasserstoffsounds like you have no end to your trouble then00:49
WasserstoffI would suggest flipping a coin00:49
tekteenI went with kubuntu and a few gnome programs00:49
Wasserstoffas it's the only non-biased way of deciding00:49
feierfoxor i teach the person using dsit-upgrade00:50
feierfoxBUT, the he gets KDE4!!00:50
feierfoxand this will confusing him!00:50
Wasserstoffsounds like a coin it is00:50
tekteenfeierfox: no he will not!00:50
Wasserstoffubotu: do you happen to have a coin?00:50
tekteenfeierfox: hardy will use kde3 with a dist-upgrade00:50
feierfoxwhat will he get then in 8.10, tekteen?00:50
Wasserstoffeventually it will switch to kde400:51
nosrednaekimfeierfox» thats a ways down the road.00:51
feierfoxhardy... but waht is with the time after hardy00:51
tekteenthat would be kde400:51
feierfoxi cant touch this installation anymore00:51
Wasserstoffthen use gnome00:51
Wasserstoffyou can rest assured00:51
tekteenI suggest gnome00:51
Wasserstoffknowing that they will never have a major update00:51
feierfoxbut its "GNOME"00:51
* tekteen kicks himself00:51
feierfoxJUST gnome!!00:51
Wasserstoffthey are lucky to copy two features from kde every six months00:51
Wasserstofffeierfox: if we keep going in circles this is only going to get stupider00:52
* tekteen kicks himself for saying use Ubuntu00:52
Wasserstoffyou knew the options when you came in here00:52
Wasserstoffand you sitll know them00:52
Wasserstoffstop being redundant00:52
Wasserstoffand just decide00:52
feierfoxor... i will sleep over it00:52
* tekteen says that asking can not help00:52
tekteenyou know the pros and cons00:53
tekteenyou know the choices00:53
feierfoxok, back to topic.. lets celebrate kubuntu! :]00:53
tekteenwe can not make the disision00:53
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feierfoxbut you can give me a background for feeling myself better  in my disision00:54
feierfoxdecision :D00:54
tekteenfeierfox: yep. that is what I thought too00:54
tekteenI came in asking the same questions a while ago00:54
feierfoxits a kind of a philosophie-question00:55
feierfoxa "dilemma"00:55
jeismahow do i play dvds on kubuntu gutsy?00:56
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs00:56
jeismait says i can/cannot with libdvdcss or something like that00:56
tekteenwow am I slow00:56
nosrednaekimbwwhaha... I'm faster tekteen00:56
WayfarerHey guys00:56
WayfarerI don't have Sound00:56
tekteenWayfarer in 3rd00:56
feierfoxwill the libdvdcss be in the repos of hardy?00:56
feierfoxi guess no :/00:57
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org00:57
Artimusfeierfox: Medibuntu will have them...00:57
WayfarerAnd i don't know where to go from here00:57
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP300:57
feierfoxis the livdvdcss illegal in the US?00:57
jeismashould i still do totem even though im on kubuntu?00:57
tekteenfeierfox: no00:58
nosrednaekimjeisma» you can if you want....00:58
tekteenjeisma: I like kaffiene00:58
feierfoxin germany in became illegal with the change of the anti-copy-law00:58
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows00:58
Wayfarerhow do I check what sound card I have?00:58
feierfox"tools which are usefull to brake..."00:58
nosrednaekimWayfarer» lspci, or lshw00:59
Wayfarerholy shit01:00
Wayfarerlshw says a lot01:00
jeismaso i put this into the terminal: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh01:00
jeismaand it said command not found01:00
nosrednaekimjeisma» did you install dvdread?01:01
jeismayeah ti says installed in adept01:01
nosrednaekimjeisma» then try "sudo ./usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh"01:02
nosrednaekimtake not of the .01:02
Dr_willisjeisma,  use  locate install-css.sh01:02
Dr_willisand then do a 'sudo bash /path/that/locate/says' perhaps.01:02
jeismanosrednaekim it still says command not found01:02
Dr_willisthe location of that script has changed - and some docs have it wrong01:03
jeismaDr_willis do that for what?01:03
Wayfarerthis says I have an Intel 82801H HD Audio Controller01:03
WayfarerI thought I had realtek...01:03
Wayfareroh well01:03
Dr_willisthat will find the proper path to  install-css.sh01:03
WayfarerKk, It isn't working01:03
nosrednaekim!intelHDA| Wayfarer01:03
ubotuWayfarer: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto01:03
david_help, just installed kubuntu on a system and now i an getting a database locked error when trying to open adept01:03
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Wayfareroh thanks01:03
WayfarerI got the Bot answer01:03
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:03
nosrednaekimWayfarer» you've been there before?01:03
jeismaDr_willis what do i type in exactly to find it?01:03
jeismaDr_willis i typed in locate and then the name01:04
ubotudavid_: please see above01:04
Dr_willisjeisma,  use  -----------> locate install-css.sh01:04
jeismaDr_willis all it gave was some .db file that is more than 8 days old01:04
david_got it thanks01:04
jeismaDr_willis yeah i did that01:04
Dr_willisjeisma,  update the locate database with 'sudo updatedb'01:04
mrunagican anyone help me with printer sharing........the printer isnt showing up in the tree01:04
david_does that happen in every tinstall?01:04
Dr_willislocate install-css.sh01:04
Dr_willissudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh01:05
WayfarerI have already done what the Bot wants01:05
Wayfarerand I still don't have sound01:05
Wayfarerin fact, It may be even more messed up then ever01:05
jeismaDr_Willis what is that last line doing?01:06
Dr_willisjeisma,  its running the script01:06
mrunaginevermind my dad didnt reshare it after installing the drivers01:06
jeismaDr_willis well i mean is that the same line to install it?01:07
jeismais that all i need to play dvds then on kaffeine?01:07
Dr_willisjeisma,  that is virtually identical to the command you were using earlier.. but im giving the 'sh' option - in case the script is not executable.01:07
jeismaok thanks01:07
Dr_willisrunning that scriot should install the css stuff..01:08
BluesKajdcopserver not running ?01:10
Ahmuckhi.  i just made a grave error.  i clicked through the partition editor.  i shut the system down, is there a way i can recover the old partition table?01:13
ahmadhello is there anybody who can help me install a new theme and change the appearance for gutsy gibbon?01:13
storbeckWhy does everybody always think there's some magical "undo" button?01:13
BluesKajwhen trying to reinstall kubuntu , kde can't communicate ... i don't get it even afterreformatting the ext3 partition without any OS on it the install disk can't communicate with dcopserver, whatever that means ?01:13
Ahmuckstorbeck: there is if you know where to find it01:13
storbeckIf you say so.01:14
Ahmuckya, there is.  gparted or something will find the tables and give you an option to restore01:14
Ahmucki've done this before, but forgotten how i did it01:14
Ahmuck'll ask in ubuntu01:14
storbeckIf you say so.01:14
Wayfarer!intel HDA01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:15
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto01:15
* BluesKaj waits patiently01:16
WayfarerI want sound01:16
WayfarerVista has sound01:16
WayfarerDamn't, even LEOPARD has SOund!01:17
ahmaduboto, can you help me how to change my theme or appearance, i,m using gutsy gibbon.01:17
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:17
ahmadubotu, help me change my theme or appearance of my laptop, i'm using gutsy gibbon version.01:19
ubuntu_how to mount my harddisk when running live distro 6.06.1... i dont find disk under mnt, but when i find disk under dev/disk/by-id, and try to open i konqueror i have not the rights to do that01:20
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PRODIMare u theree01:20
WayfarerDo you have sound?01:21
ere4siubuntu_: it will be under /dev/hda or similar01:21
PRODIMlast question01:21
PRODIMhow can i change resolution?01:21
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PRODIMi see everything so big (:01:21
Wayfarergo to the "k menu"01:21
PRODIMi see everything so big (:640-48001:21
Wayfarerbottom left hand corner01:22
Wayfarersystem settings01:22
Wayfarermonitor and display01:22
PRODIMok thanks01:22
Wayfarerno problem01:22
BluesKajPRODIM , you may need to use the admin mode to save your res changes01:23
PRODIMi have a problem01:23
PRODIMi see only01:23
ubuntu_no i dont have any /dev/hda.. i find the disks under /dev/disk/only but not able to open01:23
PRODIMhow can i use this computer in 1024-768 mode?01:23
Wayfarerdo you know your graphics card can do that?01:23
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:24
Wayfarertry that link01:24
PRODIMyes i use it at windows01:24
BluesKajPRODIM , did you see my post, above ?01:25
ubuntu_is it not an easy command like su mount hda1 or so...01:25
PRODIMyes BLuesKaj01:25
PRODIMi am looking the link01:26
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido , I'm in kubuntu limbo , got an error message when trying to reinstall after reformatting ext3 .. dcopserver not runnibg kde unable to commincate , blah blah01:27
BluesKajkde wasn't ebn installed yet ...what gives ?01:28
Daisuke_Idoerm...  i have no idea -_-01:28
Daisuke_Idounless you had installed kde apps01:28
BluesKajI reformatted the partition\01:29
PRODIMi cant understanding any thing01:29
yeltsinatorHi, I just installed the latest updates and now whenever I login X boots me back to the login screen.01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:30
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:30
storbeckBah, can't find it01:30
yeltsinatorcan't find what?01:31
yeltsinatorgnome is very broken on this computer so I'm hoping to be able to log back into kde....01:32
tariki cant change my resolution01:33
tarikhow can i01:33
storbecktarik: Have you tried?01:34
storbeckAnd what happened?01:35
tarik320-240 and 640-48001:35
tariki see only this resolutions01:35
storbeckWhat graphics card?01:36
tariks3 savage01:37
tarikand i can use 1024-768 at windows01:37
storbecksudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-savage01:39
tarikE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:41
tarikE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:41
storbeckDo you have adept or something else open?01:43
tarikohh yes01:43
tarikok wait01:43
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:43
mrunagi_dang it what is that trigger01:43
TheGonkHow can I get a list of font names available to use in .Xresources?01:43
storbeckWhat are you trying to do?01:43
mrunagi_1 sec01:43
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:43
mrunagi_do that01:43
storbeckmrunagi_: He/She had an install manager open.01:43
storbeckNo need for that.01:43
tarikserver-xorg-video-savage is already the newest version.01:43
tariki closed adept than it says taht01:43
tariki should say this01:44
tarikwhen i was installing kubuntu01:44
tarikbeacuse before i dişdnt select any thing or 1024-76801:45
tarikmy screen is corrupted01:45
remedialjoehas update broken systems recently01:46
remedialjoeor is it just me01:46
ere4sian update can rewrite a conf file01:46
remedialjoemy xwindows is freezing on .. "initializing system .. "01:46
storbecktarik, A bug has been confirmed in savage.01:47
tariki cant use this kubuntu with 1024 resoultion?01:47
ere4siremedialjoe, you may need to reinstall graphics drivers01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver-xorg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:49
remedialjoeI have reconfigured with and without the nvidia driver i am using (nvidia-glx-new)  also tried using nvidia-glx01:50
remedialjoehow can i install the mouse for terminal01:51
remedialjoei've re installed kubuntu already and I get the same thing upon updating/rebooting..01:52
remedialjoeAnd its not the update issue..  although that doesn't really look touched upon either01:53
BluesKaj!xorg.config | storbeck01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorg.config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:53
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:53
tarikcant i?01:54
remedialjoecannot creat /var/run/kdm/Xaccess01:55
oloughlin75remedialjoe: sudo ...01:56
tarikwhere is xorg.conf01:58
remedialjoe /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?01:59
darkoHey everybody! ... I tried to install beryl on KUBUNTU gutsy 7.10 .. after reboot the loging screen appeared but after I put login info the screen becomes black and it gets me back to login again and again all over ... what could be the problem?02:00
darkologin* screen02:00
remedialjoewhen "nv" is set as the driver it tells me compatible NVIDIA X driver not found .. but when i run it with "nvidia" .. it  still quits at "initializing system services"02:00
remedialjoebut no error message..  there is an (II) message saying, Module already built in"02:01
panfistwhere do i configure whether icons take single or double clicks?02:01
BluesKajthis is very strange , received this message when trying to install kubuntu on a formatted ext3 partition : http://www.pastebin.ca/91834702:02
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remedialjoe"could not start kmserver .. please check your installation"02:03
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BluesKajremedialjoe yeah, i had that earlier as well02:04
remedialjoeBluesKaj whats the deal??02:04
remedialjoewhat have I done/How can I repair/avoid02:04
ere4siBluesKaj, found this - http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DCOPserver02:04
BluesKajdunno remedialjoe , been in and out of here all day asking about it , but i'm not getting any answers02:05
remedialjoeso did you just not update/install nvidia driver?02:05
remedialjoeare you using nvidia-glx as well?02:05
panfistfor zip archives, if i right click on them i have an option to extract. that option is not available for rar files even though i have installed support for rars and they work fine in ark02:05
remedialjoepanfist install rar/unrar02:06
remedialjoeand it will work from GUI...    type sudo apt-get install rar02:06
remedialjoeor search your add/remove for it02:06
panfistso should i uninstall unrar02:07
remedialjoeoh you installed unrar.. i thought that would have worked.. yah you might as well.. and see if the package rar works02:07
panfistnot there02:07
panfisti just installed rar and the context menu entry is still not there02:07
remedialjoefor creating a rar or unraring .. if you are wanting to unrar .. just go ahead and extract02:08
panfistim trying to extract hundreds if not thousands of rars02:08
panfistbeing able to select more than one and being able to "extract here" would be nice02:08
darkodoes anyone know any movie player (.avi file) that supports subtitle... cuz I have separate subtitle file example subtitle.srt and ofcourse it's syncronized with movie time02:08
panfistive tried figuring it out in the command line,02:08
BluesKajere4si, well thanks for the heads up but , it's too late now i, can't do anyrhing since I reformatted the partition...strange that this kde message kept re-appearing tho,http://www.pastebin.ca/91834702:09
panfistunrar * doesn't work it just matches the first file and even then it doesnt unrar it02:09
remedialjoewhat shows up when you select a bunch and right click?02:09
remedialjoeyou could try going into the ark or whatever the unzipp program is called.. and then selecting them all inside the program itself02:10
ere4siBluesKaj, annoying more than strange - maybe02:10
darkodoes anyone know any movie player (.avi file) that supports subtitle... cuz I have separate subtitle file example subtitle.srt and ofcourse it's syncronized with movie time02:10
panfistthe same thing that shows up if i select 1 rar and right click, it doesnt include extract. although it does for zips. ahhh i will try to browse from within ark and see what happens02:10
panfistark doesnt support browsing like that it seems, like winrar does02:10
ere4sidarko: vlc works with those02:10
BluesKajgutsy hasn't been very stable for mysetup sunce I mistakenly upgraded kde to 3.5.9 ...02:10
darkoere4si: thanks02:11
darkoas I'm new any nice download manager ?02:11
remedialjoeI'd like to revert back to 7.04 .. but 7.10 uses so much less power :(02:11
panfistwell there has to be a way to manually edit the context menu right> theres no reason i cant just manuall add an association for *.rar02:11
remedialjoepanfist after updating i can't even get into GUI.. so thats about as much as I can help for now .. :/02:11
panfistdid you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:12
panfistdid you try to enable/disable the kernel framebuffer02:12
ere4siremedialjoe, tried the vesa driver from dpkg?02:12
remedialjoefreezes at "initializing system services" .. BluesKaj has had the same issue today as well02:15
BluesKajremedialjoe , I'm gonn reinstall 7.10 , but without any language pack upgrades, that's what did me in this morning.02:15
remedialjoehrmm.. I haven't (knowingly) installed anything like that ..02:15
BluesKajalso sticking with kde35802:15
remedialjoebut there wasn an english-locale update i think02:15
remedialjoehow do i keep 7.10 from installing 3.5.9 ?02:15
BluesKaji think i did the knee-jerk update. I'd better be more vigilant about the adept notifire from now on.02:15
BluesKajremedialjoe, not to worry it's optional, 358 is the default02:15
remedialjoeere4si no i have not .. i will attempt it02:15
ere4siworks all the time but the resolution can be large...02:16
tariki find a driver for me02:17
ere4siI always install with the ethernet cable removed02:17
tarikhow can i install it02:17
BluesKajwell here goes , gonna try with another clean 7.10 install02:17
remedialjoeGL BluesKaj02:17
ere4sitarik: is it a tar.gz file?02:17
tariki find a driver for me02:17
tarikgraphic driver02:18
ere4sitarik: unpack it and look for a readme file02:18
tarikthere issnt any readme02:18
remedialjoeerror locking authority file ? ./Xauthority02:19
ere4sitarik: is there a file ending in .sh?02:19
panfistwhere can i change the behavior of single or double clicking for items on the desktop02:21
remedialjoevesa driver is not working..  display is all distorted .. on all resolutions from 640x480 up to 1600x120002:21
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ere4siin the same dir type    ./install.sh02:23
tariknot with dot02:24
ere4sitarik: the ./ means "in the same directory"02:24
tarikinstall-sh file02:24
ere4sitarik: sorry - the install-sh file seems strange02:25
ere4sican you open it and read?02:25
tarik# install - install a program, script, or datafile02:26
tarikthis is the first line02:26
ere4siand then?02:28
tarikso much thing02:28
tarikit seems like script02:28
ere4siwrong first line for script02:29
tarikthere is makefile02:29
tariksorry first line si like02:29
ere4siwhat's in the folders - and what site did you get it from?02:29
ere4sithat's a script02:29
Dr_willisshould be #!/bin/bash  :)02:29
tariklook this02:29
tarikyou are a doctor :D02:30
tariku know truth02:30
Dr_willisnow what you are Actually TRYING to do.. i got no clue. :)02:30
nosrednaekimDr_willis» you are doctor... you must know :)02:30
* Dr_willis refers nosrednaekim to a specializt.02:30
ere4sitarik: rename it install.sh02:31
ICMI have followed several howtos on how to install Compiz Fusion under KDE 7.10, but no luck whatsoever. I'm running three monitors on two graphics cards, one is a dual-head Nvidia 7600GS, the other is an onboard 6150LE. Both are using the restricted driver 'nvidia', I believe, and I simply can't get compiz fusion to work. I'm just stuck. How do I enable it in KDE?02:31
nosrednaekimICM» doesn't compiz not work with Twinview?02:32
Dr_willisicm try getting it going on one monitor/card first.. then go from there.02:32
Dr_willisCompiz does work with twinview for me - on my 8800 gts02:32
Dr_willisBut thats just a single card.  2 video outs.02:32
ICMTo be honest, I'm not sure how I have it set up. it's using Xineview or something of that sort?02:33
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead02:33
ICMAh, yes, that is it02:33
Dr_willistwinview replaces xinerama for nvidia card ussage.02:34
tariki am trying to change my resoloutin02:34
darkodoes anyone know any good download manager except downloader for X02:34
Dr_willisthe 2 are 'similer' things.. but twinview is  nvidia's  variatiion. I normally do not need xinerama enabled.02:34
Dr_willisdarko,  i used one called 'prozilla' (proz?) in the past.. years ago.02:34
darkodoes anyone know any good download manager except downloader for X - it doesn't download files from rapidshare[dot]com02:34
tarik320-240 and 640 -48002:34
tariki cnt make it 102402:34
darkoDr_willis: what do u use now?02:35
nosrednaekimdarko» kget02:35
ere4sitarik: in konsole -  mv -v install-sh install.sh02:35
Dr_willisdarko,  i dont use any of them.02:35
ICMDr_willis: under 'nvidia-settings' I have 'Enabled Xinerama' checked off (meaning it is enabled)02:35
Dr_willisi havent needed to use a download manager - since im no longer on dialup. :)02:35
darkonosrednaekim:  is it on kubuntu 7.10 apt-get ?02:35
darkoah lol02:35
nosrednaekimdarko» oh yes :)02:35
Dr_willisICM,  i alwyas edit the xorg.conf myself. :)02:35
darkoDr_willis: sometimes u might have to schedule or pause/resume downloads02:35
ICMI'm not that good :/02:36
Dr_willisdarko,  i never do.02:36
ICMSo I may just have to give up on Compiz02:36
ICMWell, how is KDE 4 working out? How stable is it? Why.. would I want to upgrade, and *can* I upgrade?02:37
nosrednaekimICM» yes, you can.... its faily stable... but somewhat lacking in features02:37
Dr_willisICM,   Option         "Xinerama" "0"02:37
Dr_willis    in xorg.conf turns OFF xine4rama02:37
ICMBut why would I want it disabled, Dr_willis02:38
ICMnosrednaekim: What kind of features rae missing? :/02:38
Dr_willisICM,  you DONT want to use xinerama WITH twinview.. its that simple. :)02:38
Dr_willistwinview supercedes xinerama02:38
ICMDr_willis: alright.. so I can just hit the little 'X' to unchek it...02:38
Dr_willisICM,  i have no idea what check box enables/disalbes what. :) thats why i posted the line from the xorg.conf02:38
Dr_willisis the X to 'disable' it  or 'X to enable it' :) and so on.02:39
darkonosrednaekim: any idea how to integrate kget in firefox ?02:39
ICMWell, I suppose I need to restart X.02:39
ICMBe right back (I hope)02:39
Reconizercan anyone help me please what do i do when i want to download a linux application which isnt listed in synaptic when i search for it?02:39
Dr_willissudo  nvidia-xconfig   --no-xinerama02:39
Dr_willisshould also disable it. :)02:40
Dr_willisICM on a complex setup like you got - I imagien you will have to do some manual editing of the xorg.conf - Or get very lucky  with the nvidia tools.02:40
naliothReconizer: what's up?02:41
Reconizercan anyone help me please what do i do when i want to download a linux application which isnt listed in synaptic when i search for it?02:41
Reconizeri want to install xmind02:41
Reconizerbut its not in synaptic02:41
Dr_willisuse the source and cmpile it - is the normal way02:41
ICMSo yes, I disabled Xinerama.02:42
ICMnow KDE won't start02:42
ICMI'm.. in irssi right now02:42
Dr_willissudo  nvidia-xconfig    --enable-all-gpus02:42
Dr_willis 02:42
storbeckxmind isn't in the repos because it cost $10002:42
Dr_willisnvidia-xconfig -A  (shows 1000+ options you can set)02:43
ReconizerDr_willis i dont know how02:43
Reconizerit has a binary tar02:43
ICMDr_willis: --enable-all-gpus didn't work02:43
remedialjoethe the basic english language pack that is breaking kubuntu02:43
ICMcouldn't honor it, as it couldn't determine the # of GPUs in this02:43
ICMYou know what, why did I disable Xinerama in the first place?02:44
ICMSeriously, it was working. Compiz wasn't02:44
Dr_willisICM,  you want to use Twinview NOT xinerama.02:44
ICMAlright, then how the hell do I actually get KDE to start02:44
ICMYou keep telling me I want to use twinview not xinerama but not why02:44
raomani need help. my adept manager is not working.......02:44
Dr_willisnvidia-xconfig  --twinview           to enable twniview02:44
Dr_willisICM,  i said earlier that twinview supercedes xinerams02:45
Dr_willisIT replaces it.. its Nvidias replacement for it..02:45
remedialjoehttp://pastebin.com/d5fa6a2f6  <--  Packages breaking update right now02:45
ICMMay I attempt to restart X now, Dr_willis ?02:45
Dr_willisICM,  go for it. :)02:45
ICMactually, I'm not sure how one does that, without x actually running02:45
Dr_willistry 'startx'02:45
ICMbecause that makes too much sense, forgot about that02:45
ICMFatal Server Error: No Screens Found02:46
Dr_willisit might of been a good idea to backup your original xorg.conf first. also.02:46
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:46
ICMa.. bit late02:46
Dr_willisthere may be backups allready in the /etc/X11 dir02:46
ICMAlright... but um...02:46
ICMWhat do I do now02:46
Dr_willisjot down this "if all else fails' --->   #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg02:47
Dr_willisthat is the 'lets start over and reconfigure X' command. :)02:47
remedialjoe-phigh   ?02:47
ICMAre you kidding me02:47
ICMI don't have the time for this02:47
remedialjoeyea thats what i'm saying02:48
ICMI mean... Seriously02:48
Dr_willisreenable xinerama then. and it may get ya back working.02:48
Dr_willisYou are trying to do a complex thing. with 2 cards.02:48
storbecksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:48
ICMWorks perfectly well in Windows02:48
Dr_willisI have spent many an hr reading the nvidia readmes and docs..02:48
Dr_willisICM,  and that proves very little.02:48
remedialjoeyah XP is far superior man02:48
storbecklol @ XP is superior02:49
remedialjoethey have thousands of developers getting paid02:49
remedialjoeto make things work02:49
Dr_willismore time reading,learning.02:49
remedialjoevs ubuntu breaking monthly02:49
MimmoXhi everyone02:49
Dr_willisremedialjoe,  and some times it actually does work! :)02:49
storbeckNo, Ubuntu doesn't break.02:49
storbeckThe USER breaks it.02:49
remedialjoeno xp always worked for me02:49
remedialjoei just liked the idea of free software02:49
Dr_willisXp wouldent even boot on my laptop.02:49
remedialjoewow .. horrible laptop?02:49
remedialjoehow old is that02:49
Dr_willisand there was nothing i could do to 'force' it to boot.02:49
ICMDr_willis: you're far better wtih configuring X than I am02:50
Dr_willisit was  brand new one. had vista.. whiped out vista.02:50
remedialjoethat's the most rediculous thing i've heard of.. unless your disc/ drive is broken02:50
Dr_willisICM,  yes.. and ive spent many an hr working with xorg.conf files and manually tweaking twinview settings.02:50
ICMWell I don't have "many an hr"02:50
remedialjoeno kidding02:50
ICMthe only way at this rate is to reinstall Kubuntu02:50
Dr_willisICM,  check /etc/X11/ for a backup of xorg.conf OR use that command i noted earlier to totally reconfigure X.02:51
remedialjoegood luck updating 7.10 right now02:51
Dr_willisreinstalling is overkill and 'windows' thinking.02:51
ICMthere are various configs, no clue which one is the correct one02:51
storbeckICM, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:51
storbeckand be done with it02:51
Dr_willisusing 2 seperate video cards - can be a real real real big pain.02:52
remedialjoewith linux*02:52
Dr_willis1 video card with 2+ outputs is much easier.02:52
ICMstorbeck: What will that do?02:52
storbeckIt will reconfigure your xorg02:52
ICMDr_willis: I don't have all the f'n money in the world, alright, this worked02:52
storbeckSet it back to defaults.02:52
remedialjoeICM: I agree with storbeck even tho i'm bashing linux right now02:52
ICMheh, 'bashing linux'02:52
Dr_willisits more of 'ranting and rambling'  :)02:53
remedialjoeit will take 3 minutes02:53
ICMstorbeck: so my work is... gone02:53
raomanim using kubuntu 7.10 n i'm facing problems updating n my external drives wudn't mount either. does the same happen   with kubuntu 6.10??- need some advice guys....02:53
remedialjoeICM:  not at all  just run what storbek says and it will re configure you xserver to run again02:53
mrunagi_is there any way to get mounting an iso act like mounting an actual disk and sit on the desktop and in storage media?02:53
Dr_williswork is gone? this isent windows...02:53
storbeckIt doesn't format your computer.02:53
mrunagi_raoman: are they ntfs?02:53
storbeckIt just reconfigures your X02:53
Dr_willismrunagi_,  ive used the  fuseiso tool to get them there..02:53
Dr_willis!info fuseiso02:53
ICMThat's not what I meant, I meant in terms of positioning monitors and such >_<02:53
ubotufuseiso (source: fuseiso): FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 20070507-1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 92 kB02:53
mrunagi_cool ill try that Dr_willis02:54
ICMif TwinView is so great, why is it not working, eh?02:54
storbeckICM, what would you rather have? No X, or a default X?02:54
remedialjoeICM:  Yes .. unless you can find a backup xorg.conf .. there *should be one02:54
ICMI'm trying to find the command in my scrollback02:54
mrunagi_raoman: ?02:54
Dr_willisICM,  go read the twinview docs befor ranting about twinview. is a good idea. There may be some options for 2 seperate video cards that ive not used.02:54
raomanmrunagi: yup... but they worked fine whien i used 7.10 (genome)02:54
remedialjoeicm nano bash_history02:55
ICM"may be" -_-02:55
mrunagi_raoman: what happens when you plug them in02:55
Dr_willisby using xinerama - instead of twinview - you will be loseing some features. Such as windows try ingto maxamize across both monitors. (i recall that being a big issue), and proberly other ones as well.02:55
raomanmrunagi: nuthing pops up until i re-boot my system02:55
mrunagi_and when you manually mount them?02:56
remedialjoeshould i stay or should i upgrade ... *sings..  Should i stay or should I upppgraaade02:56
ICMDr_willis: I don't give a crap about that feature02:56
remedialjoe*guitar rif02:56
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mrunagi_Dr_willis: what is iocharset?02:57
ICMdifferent monitors that are on different levels in terms of height in comparison to one another02:57
Dr_willismrunagi_,  dosent sound familer to me.02:57
raomanmrunagi: i havent tried it man, im still new to linux, im not gud at it. how do i do it anyway?02:57
remedialjoeICM: Sounds like you have quite the control center there.. have you heard of "synergy"02:57
mrunagi_what was the string you would type to mount an iso with fusio02:57
ICMsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org is what I'm about to try, per storbeck's recommendation02:58
remedialjoeICM:  Unrelated.. but runs on windows/mac/linux ..  lets you mouse/keyboard work between all machines networked02:58
ICMremedialjoe: yes, I use it.02:58
Dr_willissynergy - is a handy tool to rember. :)02:59
raomanmrunagi: /dev/sda1 ...?02:59
remedialjoei'm scared to upgrade the latest language packs.. i'm afraid kmserver won't start again03:00
mrunagi_Dr_willis: i installed and used fuseiso but it didnt sit on the desktop or in storage media03:00
ICMstorbeck: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found03:00
remedialjoeis there an equivalent of windows' "restore point" feature ?03:00
mrunagi_remedialjoe: yea03:00
ICMnevermind, typo03:01
mrunagi_!keep | remedialjoe03:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:01
mrunagi_wow ok03:01
ICMstorbeck: it tells me that xserver-org isn't installed :/03:01
mrunagi_its called keep03:01
remedialjoeawesome.. ty03:01
Dr_willismrunagi_,  no idea there. I normally just mount the thing manually. I thought it showed an icon on my desktop.03:01
ere4si!info keep03:01
ubotukeep (source: keep): backup system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 202 kB, installed size 1156 kB03:01
ICMsomething tells me, that's... um.. quite a problem03:01
Dr_willismrunagi_,  but i normally keep all icons off the desktop03:01
mrunagi_id be fine if it was just in storage media03:02
storbecknot org03:02
remedialjoeIs this going to backup links?03:02
Dr_willismrunagi_,  thats a special feature of the file manager. kioslave. Not sure how to make anything else show up there.03:02
remedialjoe i'm looking at keep.. do i just set "/" as the folder i want.. and if i do that.. will it decide to backup my external media mounts?03:02
remedialjoeor will it just show them as dead links03:02
Dr_willis"if all else fails' --->   #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg03:03
storbeckICM, you have to sudo when using dpkg-reconfigure03:03
Dr_williswith or without the -phigh :)03:03
ICMI did, I'm doing it now03:03
storbecksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:03
ICMbut I have absolutely no clue what I'm doing.03:03
remedialjoejust keep hitting yes03:03
remedialjoeuntil the emultate 3 button mouse03:03
remedialjoeand then up until "save file"03:03
remedialjoedo i have to exclude /dev and /media  and others? with keep?03:04
ICMstorbeck: Well, I went through it. Now what?03:04
mrunagi_does anyone know of any emulators for .iso in kubuntu?03:04
ICMwouldn't it be wise to do /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?03:04
remedialjoeits not started?03:05
storbeckICM, if it makes you happy. Sure03:05
ICMI have no clue03:05
ICMFatal Server Error: no screens found03:05
ICMI'm going to cut my losses and reinstall.03:05
mrunagi_ICM: dont do that03:05
Dr_willisOR look for a backed up xorg.conf file03:05
mrunagi_ICM:  stop!03:05
ICMI did, Dr_willis .03:05
mrunagi_no no man startx see what it says03:06
Dr_willisbut its work time for me.. good luck.03:06
remedialjoeare you using nvidia driver?03:06
remedialjoeyou may have to set the driver back to "nvidia" instead of "nv"03:06
mrunagi_start x should tell him why03:06
remedialjoeno screens found * ?03:07
storbeckno screens founds means that you don't have the right drivers for your chipset03:08
storbeckcopy /var/log/Xorg.0.log in pastebin03:08
ICMused 'nv' this time03:09
ICMinsteda of 'nvidia'03:09
remedialjoeICM:  have you updated recently?03:10
remedialjoei'm not saying you should03:10
remedialjoei am just wondering.. cause updating seems to break my xorg ATM03:10
ICM^remedialjoe: I did what you said, but backwards (using 'nv' instead of 'nvidia')03:11
remedialjoeICM did this get you back into x?03:11
ICM^though I did get the error (EE) Failed to initialize GLX Extension (compatible nvidia X driver not found)03:12
remedialjoeyah that is what i am getting right now03:12
remedialjoeright when its .. "initializing system services"03:12
nosrednaekimprobably a borked kernel module...03:12
ICM^well, it's just in the VT03:12
remedialjoeits the latest language pack update03:12
ICM^doesn't affect anything03:12
remedialjoeoh you were able to get in?03:12
remedialjoeright on03:12
ICM^except I don't have my other monitors03:13
remedialjoethat sucks03:13
ICM^I'll have to reconfigure them03:13
ICM^I hope twinview is a package.03:13
remedialjoei think its built into xorg .. and is just an xorg.conf option .. but i'm not 100%03:13
ICM^oh, of course it isn't03:13
storbeckTry pressing ctrl + alt + backspace03:13
ICM^that broke it03:14
ICM^it certainly stopped03:14
ICM^but didn't restart03:14
remedialjoetype startx again03:14
remedialjoebut like03:14
remedialjoeit will *restart instead of quit when you reboot03:14
remedialjoebut you are in singal user mode right now03:14
ICM^I'm rebooting my system right now03:14
remedialjoeor something like that03:14
remedialjoe*hopes it goes into xwindows for ya03:15
remedialjoei'm gonna update and see if it is this new locales package..03:15
* ICM^ hits 'boot from first hard disk' >_<03:15
ICM^I still have an install disc in the drive03:15
ICM^though I may reinstall anyway, just because I've had it installed for a day03:15
ICM^and already, I screwed so much up03:15
storbeckNote: NV is not Nvidia03:15
ICM^Nvidia > NV03:16
ICM^that's as far as I know03:16
ICM^well, storebe, remedialjoe, it booted and went into KDE03:16
remedialjoeyou are further along then i am ICM03:16
ICM^I think I may give up on Compiz03:17
ICM^which is complete crap because I totally want it :/03:17
remedialjoewhat you can try is03:17
remedialjoeadd another user03:17
remedialjoeand play with it on there03:17
remedialjoeso it doesn't effect your main user03:17
storbeckHave you run, nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals ?03:18
remedialjoeuntil you get it down pat and can implement03:18
ICM^storbeck: no03:18
ICM^and should I be using the 'nvidia' drivers now?03:18
storbeckWell if you want to get back on nvidia03:18
storbeckI'm pretty sure you need to run that to use compiz on nvidia03:18
ICM^alright, I have to restart the X server03:20
ICM^Let us hope this works03:20
ICM^Well, KDE still loads03:21
ICM^oh crap03:21
remedialjoeinitializing system services?03:21
ICM^it's doing that really messed up resolution crap03:21
remedialjoeyou will have to run nvidia-settings03:21
ICM^where you have to move your mouse to the edge of the screen03:21
remedialjoesudo nvidia-settings03:21
ICM^... I also don't have a cursor03:21
ICM^I have one, but it's transparent03:21
ICM^I had this problem on this computer in gnome on Gentoo, KDE on Gentoo, Gnome on Ubuntu.. not now03:22
ICM^and no one (After spending nine hours asking people) could figure it out03:22
ICM^Looks like it is time for a reinstall03:22
Reconizerhow do i install konversation through konsole?03:22
remedialjoesudo apt-get install konversation03:22
Reconizerwhy the sudo?03:22
remedialjoeroot access for apt-get03:23
storbeckReconizer: Try doing it without sudo03:23
storbeckSee what happens03:23
remedialjoesudo = do as root03:23
ICM^Guys, thanks for your help03:24
ICM^I'm going to reinstall Kubuntu in a few days03:24
Reconizeryw icewater1an03:24
ReconizerICM^ 10 dollars please03:24
Reconizerhow can i install kde4?03:24
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde403:24
storbeckYou don't want kde403:24
Reconizerand does kde4 have a new alarm clock03:24
nosrednaekimnot sure03:25
Reconizeri am looking for an alarm clock03:25
storbeckWait until at least kde 4.0.2 is released.03:25
Reconizerfor linux03:25
remedialjoeReconizer: whats wrong with using a plugin for amarok?03:25
storbeckKDE 4 is still in major baby stages.03:25
storbeckYou don't want it yet.03:25
Reconizerremedialjoe how does that work?03:25
remedialjoeReconizer: you could try an amarok script/plugin .. go into amarok, go up to scripts and click get new03:25
remedialjoethere are a bunch03:25
remedialjoesome are so swet like right click look for youtube music video..  hehhe. but i'm sure there was an alarm clock plugin03:25
ICM^Thanks all, good night03:26
ICM^Reinstall Kubuntu in two days ~_~03:26
remedialjoegood luck icm .. better luck next time03:26
Reconizeri am running kubuntu on vista through co-linux btw03:26
nosrednaekimbye ICM^03:26
ICM^lol, at least I gained some experience03:26
ICM^Don't blindly disable Xinerama >_>03:26
ICM^I can almost guarentee I'll be back ;-)03:26
darkodoes anyone know any movie player that supports subtitle files too like mv2 player for windows03:26
secleinteerhi, does anyone know if it's possible to turn the right click menu key into a modifier?03:26
remedialjoeReconizer:  open amarok, at the top click on Tools.. then script manager03:26
Reconizeri can use every linux app now03:26
Reconizerwithout using a lot of resources03:27
jcgkffycsis there a way to install applications to a fake root under a users home folder?03:27
remedialjoeReconizer: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/FAQ#How _do_I_use_amaroK_as_an_alarm_clock.3F03:27
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Reconizerremedialjoe thanks03:28
remedialjoeyou may have to copy/paste that03:28
storbeckjcgkffycs: make03:28
espacious_i have an old lappy 1400 mhz 700 ram kubuntu works quite good, how would kde4 run?03:29
remedialjoeReconizer: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2316003:29
remedialjoeReconizer: Sorry.. i just looked.. just go back into the script manager for amarok.. and click on "get new scripts"03:30
remedialjoeits there .. called "weekalarm"03:30
fignewespacious_: KDE4 will run fine when it's ready03:31
remedialjoewelp here goes the upgrade.. will let you all know if the update on a fresh system without nvidia drivers breaks03:31
nosrednaekimespacious_» kde4 is only using 300MB of RaM for me..so it should run fine03:31
storbeckYou're going to be disappointed in kde403:32
freyyrhey, I'm having trouble starting a kde session.  KDM loads up, but when I try to login, it reaches "Starting System Services"  and loads back to the login screen.  any ideas?03:32
storbeckThe menubar is HUGE and you can't resize it.03:32
freyyrI'm currently at the console using BitchX.03:32
remedialjoefreyyr: JOIN THE CLUB03:32
remedialjoethat was me an hour ago03:32
remedialjoeyou're running nvidia?03:32
Daisuke_Idostorbeck: some people like it, and you CAN resize it...  requires a little editing though03:32
remedialjoeits the new language package03:33
remedialjoethat you just updated last03:33
remedialjoei'm pretty sure03:33
remedialjoei'm going through a re install right now03:33
freyyryeah, that's what I just installed.03:33
storbeckI never found a configuration for it anywhere.03:33
remedialjoefreyyr: I re installed and upgraded,  that did not work03:33
remedialjoefreyyr: its broken right  now and nobody is saying boo diddly03:33
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remedialjoeso don't bother re installing unless you don't want to upgrade03:34
espacious_fignew it's not ready yet?03:34
freyyranyone submitted a bug report yet?03:34
remedialjoei doubt it03:35
remedialjoeif you do i will sign it03:35
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storbeckDaisuke_Ido: Where is the configure file?03:35
nosrednaekimyeah... thre is proble with the lang pack...03:35
freyyrI'll do it I guess... from LYNX.03:35
fignewespacious: correct03:35
Daisuke_Idothere were changes committed to make it a) resizable and b) two rows03:35
remedialjoenosrednaekim:  Does anyone have access to add that into the topic?03:35
espaciousok thanks for quick info03:35
freyyrI thought we were past this.03:35
Daisuke_Idowe have not gotten those changes here yet :\03:35
Daisuke_Idobut i knew i had seen info on the panel03:35
nosrednaekimremedialjoe» lemme see03:36
freyyrwell, actually, maybe somebody else ought to submit the report.  I've only got console access right now, and i'm not too quick with lynx.03:36
remedialjoesame here03:36
remedialjoei'm in the same position. i hope someone does03:36
storbeckDaisuke_Ido: Where is the configuration file?03:37
bhueyhello, I'm having problems installing a tftp package where /etc file aren't being installed that are needed. How do I fix this problem ?03:38
nosrednaekimthis is why I NEVER update03:38
freyyrreally wish people would bugtest their packages before they go mainstream.03:39
freyyrand a lang pack...  that's going to break a LOT of installs.03:39
Arwenfreyyr, tell me about it.... In Hardy, one of the devs released a "firefox-dev" package that... installs nothing.03:40
ReconizerCore 2 Duo quad03:40
Reconizerhow come linux hardware isnt open source03:41
freyyrwho nosrednaekim03:41
* Wasserstoff senses this channel has an exciting few days ahead of it03:41
freyyrhobby of mine to /who everone in a channel :P03:41
* Wasserstoff grabs some popcorn and sits back and watches03:42
nosrednaekimWasserstoff» lol03:42
storbeckmmm. Popcorn sounds good.03:42
remedialjoeYep. Fresh install.. Language pack upgrades break Gutsy.03:42
WasserstoffWelcome to the redundant train03:43
Wasserstoffchoo choo03:43
nosrednaekimbleh!... no ops are answering..03:43
remedialjoealso the original upgrading glitch is still there ???03:43
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic03:43
mrunagi_i jsut03:43
WasserstoffIt's not in the topic :)03:43
storbeckI was seeing if it would give any suggestions how to add to it.03:44
freyyrwhy the hell do you even need to update a friggin' language pack?  have languages magically changed since november?03:44
remedialjoehow could this not be checked03:44
remedialjoebefore being "okayed"03:44
freyyrwell, it's a main package.  so everyone's gonna get it.03:44
nosrednaekimremedialjoe» complain in #kubuntu-devel ;)03:44
remedialjoesame with the upgrade glitch03:44
nosrednaekimthough... no-one is around there03:44
remedialjoewhich is still there, even though we are 5 betas into the next release03:44
heinkel_111oh there is major trouble on the way?03:44
Wasserstoffno, don't go there to complain03:44
Wasserstoffthen you are just being annoying03:45
nosrednaekimheinkel_111» yeah03:45
Wasserstoffone would assume that it's a bug that was not triggered on the testing system03:45
nosrednaekimwell.. yeah....03:45
Wasserstofffor whatever reason03:45
remedialjoethey only tested it once on 1 system?03:45
heinkel_111maybe it is a good idea not to restart the computer for a while then,,,i got the new packages 2 hrs ago :(03:45
freyyrFOSS.  no budget, remember?03:45
Wasserstoffwho knows03:45
WasserstoffI sure don't03:45
remedialjoeheinkel_111 *nods you are too right03:45
WasserstoffI didn't test it03:45
* nosrednaekim retracts the statement to go to that other channel03:45
storbeckOr just turn off auto-install updates.03:45
remedialjoeI've already initiated my complaint in here.. no worries .. ;]03:46
remedialjoe... storbeck  .. but i already installed.. there is no way to warn ppl03:46
heinkel_111storbeck: it wasnt auto when i got it, it was idiot ;-) I manually upgraded the language packs03:46
remedialjoepeople are probably without interfaces right now03:46
remedialjoenot everyone knows how to get into bitchx03:46
WasserstoffI'm sure if you are patient and all that it will be fixed soon :)03:46
freyyrwell, it'll be good for them.  it'll be nice and retro.03:47
remedialjoeWasserstoff Just like the initial upgrade glitch was fixed?03:47
Wasserstoffif you omgneed it now03:47
WasserstoffThen you can uninstall the language packs03:47
Wasserstoffremedialjoe: well, maybe it won't be03:47
remedialjoeWasserstoff Having to go into console to manually select YES or NO "03:47
Wasserstoffremedialjoe: then you can switch to gentoo03:47
WasserstoffI heard they are much easier to use03:47
Wasserstoffand more reliable03:47
remedialjoei've heard the opposite about being easier to use.. i'd be annoyed to have to learn another package manager after putting my faith into deb based so long03:48
freyyrthis brings noglista.  we should start a MUD since we're all conna be at the CLI soon anyway.03:48
remedialjoebut.. i have no heard any reliability issues so ..03:48
remedialjoelol fre03:48
heinkel_111MUD that sounds like old-skool text based multiplayer game?03:48
remedialjoe... i downloaded gentoo and buntu for the re install.. used up my last blank :( .. i'm bust till tomorrow I think03:48
remedialjoeunless there is someway to revert back to the old language pack/03:49
Wasserstoffjust uninstall the language packs..03:49
freyyrmost likely.03:49
freyyrbut I'm not a whiz with apt. so...03:49
WasserstoffEnglish is the standard language03:49
remedialjoesame.. that is what i am figuring out, after this smoke03:49
freyyrcould try aptitude.03:49
freyyrI'll see with that.03:49
WasserstoffI don't have the error myself, so I cannot tell you how to fix itr03:49
remedialjoegl =]03:49
remedialjoeWasserstoff you got the latest update and rebooted?03:50
freyyractually, can I open a new TTY so I don't have to keep switching in and out of bitchx?03:50
remedialjoefreyyr *nods03:50
WasserstoffI don't use kde3.03:50
remedialjoewell lucky you ;]03:50
storbeckWow, freyyr was logged in for a long time.03:52
Wasserstoff1 centuries?03:52
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remedialjoeoh i think i kind of remember.. i can at least manually download the older language packs03:53
storbeckWhat's the website for sf.net?03:53
fignewstorbeck: wait... are you kidding?03:54
fignewok carry on03:54
remedialjoeoh man03:54
stunatrais it just me, or is devede really slow?03:55
remedialjoei noticed that too.. are you using the older mplayer fix?03:55
stunatranot sure, whatever is in the repos is what I am using. (on Gutsy)03:56
remedialjoestunatra check the devede website.. i think they have a fix03:56
stunatra2 hours to convert to 1 DVD seems a little bit long to me lol03:56
stunatrathanks remedialjoe I will do that.03:57
Arwenhehe, encoding a DVD on a competent PC should take about 5 minutes :-P03:57
remedialjoei could be mistaken.. but i remember having to revert back to the previous mplayer to use devede03:57
stunatraNote for Ubuntu Gutsy users: by default (as November 21, 2007) Gutsy comes with Mplayer/Mencoder buggy version 1.0RC1 (like Feisty);03:58
stunatrathat could be the problem :P03:58
remedialjoe*pokes language pack ... FIX03:59
myk_how do i add a directory to my user's $PATH?03:59
remedialjoemkdir dirname?03:59
myk_i want to add /home/user/bin as a location to create symbolic links03:59
remedialjoemkdir ~/dirname ?04:00
Arwenmyk_, look at ~/.bashrc04:00
Arwenit has a "PATH=" line in it04:00
remedialjoeoh lol04:00
remedialjoei read what myk said wrong ... i wondered why he wanted to know something so easy for whatever advanced thing he was doing04:02
remedialjoeso tired.. powernap04:02
myk_Arwen: doesnt seem to be there.. here's what mine looks like     http://www.pastebin.ca/91851804:03
Arwenhmm, never mind me then...04:03
mrunagi_just a warning for everyone..........never move files with kubuntu..........always copy and paste04:04
mrunagi_im still ticked off04:04
remedialjoeoh with dolphin04:04
mrunagi_i copied and pasted a documents folder and said overwite auto.........but it didnt complete!04:04
mrunagi_data GONE!04:04
remedialjoethat is unacceptable04:04
mrunagi_lots of irreplaceable data too04:04
mrunagi_yes it is04:05
mrunagi_i mean fine.........if something happens you cant complete the opperation..........put it BACK!04:05
remedialjoewhat about using that program to get your files back04:05
remedialjoecould you run that04:05
mrunagi_what progrem04:05
mrunagi_is it too late? this happened 2 hours ago04:05
remedialjoei will try to find it.. but i am using lynx.. so it might take me a while04:05
remedialjoeno i don't think so04:06
remedialjoethis program is for like fire/damaged drives04:06
remedialjoealso works on removable media..  memory cards etc for lost photos04:06
remedialjoeyou can usually recover 3-4 formats worth of data, pretty impressive04:06
* heinkel_111 reminds the channnel that backup systems does have advantages when things go wrong04:06
storbeckln -s /folder ~/ ?04:06
mrunagi_keep heinkel_111?04:06
heinkel_111for example04:07
heinkel_111only  when things have gone wrong, you should have keep'ed that folder before that04:07
freyyrIt worked!04:08
mrunagi_ive just never heard of files disappearing04:08
freyyrremoving those packages fixed the problem.04:08
freyyrhow I missed that GUI.04:08
remedialjoefreyyr which packages?04:09
remedialjoedid the os not need them?04:09
Wasserstoffthere is a language-pack-en?04:09
heinkel_111of course the system don't need it...speak portuguese instead!04:09
Wasserstoffwhat in the hell is in it?04:09
remedialjoeheinkel_111 well i mean ..04:09
mrunagi_remedialjoe: you still looking?04:10
freyyrso run:04:10
remedialjoemrunagi_  i was going to grab laptop, but if i can get into gui....  just a sec ..04:10
* Wasserstoff would really like to know whats in a 'en' language pack04:10
Wasserstoffconsiddering almost all programs have strings in english originally04:10
Wasserstoffand are translated from there04:10
mrunagi_Wasserstoff: english?04:11
remedialjoefreyyr You are my hero04:11
freyyrsudo apt-get remove language-pack-en language-pack-en-base language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-en-base language-pack-support-en.04:11
heinkel_111i have 10 language packs or so, wonder if they are all fubared or if it is just the -en ones?04:11
Wasserstoffmrunagi_: but what though...04:11
remedialjoefreyyr  i think its language-pack-kde-en or language-pack-en04:11
remedialjoefreyyr one of those two worked for me04:11
remedialjoeor both*04:11
Wasserstoffmrunagi_: what programs exist that need to be explicity translated into english..04:11
freyyri removed them all, and everything seems normal.04:11
freyyrit's all still in english.04:11
mrunagi_i dont know04:11
mrunagi_im still concerned i just lost a bunch of data04:12
remedialjoe_mrunagi_:  yeah that is terrible.. i'm in gui now so hopefully my search will speed up04:12
remedialjoe_*looking now brb04:12
remedialjoe_mrunagi_: found it04:13
mrunagi_is it in the repo?04:13
remedialjoe_mrunagi_:    Photorec was the program i used.. but i found this article which i'm readin now .. it might apply ..  http://www.linux.com/feature/5658804:13
remedialjoe_yes i believe it is04:13
remedialjoe_i remember it being pretty powerful04:14
remedialjoe_hope it helps04:14
mrunagi_that would still apply to me?04:15
mrunagi_i didnt wipe my hd04:15
remedialjoe_yes it will just scan /dev for everything04:15
remedialjoe_thats *not    on there04:15
remedialjoe_in the file table04:15
remedialjoe_you may have to boot from live cd and run it ... the device might have to be unmounted04:16
remedialjoe_i used it while recovering *evidence for a client04:16
remedialjoe_but this was a long time ago04:16
Stofferi don't suppose there's a better file system checker / repair-er than fsck is there?  It keeps exiting with a signal 11.04:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tar.bz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:18
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)04:18
remedialjoe_mrunagi_:  install alien and download the RPM04:19
remedialjoe_mrunagi_: and there is always http://foremost.sourceforge.net/  but i am not familiar with it04:22
remedialjoe_in the slightest04:22
remedialjoe_mrunagi_:  last link http://pcburn.com/data_recovery-Foremost.php04:23
mrunagi_i dont understand04:24
mrunagi_it only gives me . and documents and .. to save to04:24
mrunagi_it tells me not to use the same partition04:25
remedialjoe_i'm installing right now04:25
remedialjoe_yeah .. i said you might have to install while using the live cd04:26
mrunagi_oh lame04:26
remedialjoe_i was afraid of that04:26
mrunagi_will it give me the option to save it on my external if im on the live cd?04:26
mrunagi_ok breb04:26
mrunagi_at least im learning something new04:27
Qtstuckhas anyone done any cross compiling with ubuntu ?  I am trying to get a package to compile correctly, but it uses /usr/lib/libfreetype.so instead of the correct mingw version  I don't know why it is doing that?04:28
ubuntuok here i go04:33
ubuntuwish me luck on photorec =)04:33
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ubuntuoh yea04:33
ubuntui have to install it again lol04:33
ubuntudo you have that link?04:33
ubuntunevermind i got it04:35
remedialjoe_sorry heheh04:37
ubuntuok im still lost04:38
ubuntuit wants me to save the data in /home/ubuntu04:38
ubuntuor . .. Desktop04:38
ubuntudrwxr-xr-x   999   999       620 26-Feb-2008 04:37 .04:38
ubuntudrwxr-xr-x     0     0        60 25-Feb-2008 23:30 ..04:38
ubuntudrwxr-xr-x   999   999       120 25-Feb-2008 23:31 Deskt04:38
remedialjoe_no way04:39
ubuntui got it04:39
remedialjoe_run the program from the folder you want to save it too04:39
ubuntuexcept i dont know how to um........browse to my external in live cd04:39
remedialjoe_run konqueror and put in /media04:39
remedialjoe_it should be in there04:39
alucardromeroMake sure it's mounted?04:39
remedialjoe_if its not ..^^04:40
ubuntuits not04:40
ubuntui cant remember how to mount ntfs on lviecd04:40
remedialjoe_mount it04:40
remedialjoe_type dmesg04:40
ubuntui get some fuse error04:40
remedialjoe_after plugging it in04:40
remedialjoe_is it ntfs?04:40
remedialjoe_install ntfs-3g04:41
ubuntuisnt it by default?04:41
alucardromeroYeah, it should be.04:41
remedialjoe_dmesg should tell you the dev name04:41
remedialjoe_then just ntfs-3g /dev/????  /media/whatever04:41
alucardromerontfs-3g mount -o umode=000 /dev/<drive> /media/<drive>04:41
ubuntufuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied04:42
ubuntuFUSE mount point creation failed04:42
ubuntuUnmounting /dev/sdb1 (External)04:42
ubuntui did04:42
ubuntuno i didnt04:42
* alucardromero farts04:42
ubuntuok good04:43
remedialjoe_oh man i forgot to backup my nexuiz maps04:43
ubuntuok its going04:43
alucardromeroWhoa... I was thinking of playing, but... Blah.04:44
remedialjoe_i guess not as critical04:44
ubuntuhow can i make animations for nexius?04:44
remedialjoe_alucardromero: are you in north america or Europe or .. ?04:44
alucardromeroNorth America.04:45
remedialjoe_i'm installing it now and bumping on to galts04:45
remedialjoe_do you 1v1 at all? or ctf or04:45
remedialjoe_ubuntu  you might be waiting a while.. *make a pizza04:47
ubuntuan hour04:47
ubuntuhow do i make animations for nexius?04:47
ubuntu4 hours?!04:50
ubuntunow back to 1 hour lol04:50
remedialjoe_animations for nexuiz? you mean like the names?04:50
remedialjoe_er for speech text04:50
ubuntui mean animate the models........the animations now are horrid04:51
remedialjoe_oh sweet04:51
remedialjoe_uhm just a sec.. i think i know who you can talk to04:51
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ubuntui guess they dont want just animatorz04:53
ubuntuim not a modeller =/04:53
remedialjoe_yah i thought i heard someone say it was BS for nex04:55
remedialjoe_and the models04:55
remedialjoe_i am not an artist at all.. so it all looks like it would take a millenia to me04:55
ubuntudid you look at my site?04:55
remedialjoe_its very clean04:55
remedialjoe_i am downloading the vidz now04:56
remedialjoe_i really enjoy the fact that it is easy to read04:56
ubuntumy site?04:56
ubuntudo you have problems not being able to read sites alot?04:56
Arwenwhoa cool, xrandr is awesome04:56
Arwenno more having to edit xorg.conf04:56
Arwenit's almost like... Windows!04:57
ubuntumost of these text files are probably garbage arent they04:57
ubuntuholy god 4k text files?04:57
ubuntuHAS to be garbage04:57
remedialjoe_sec installing codecs04:57
BluesKajare there any warnings about langauge package updates breaking kde ?04:58
HydrogenPeople have had the problem in here04:59
ubuntudont install them04:59
Hydrogenbut havn't seen warnings about it yet04:59
ubuntubut then dont listen to me im trying to recover what data i can because kubuntu decided to dump my clipboard data04:59
HydrogenI'm still very very very curious as to how language packs can break logging in04:59
ubuntuits a virus04:59
ubuntui work at my parents store while im in town and people are shocked when i tell them a. microsoft is single handedly responsible for viruses and b. i dont have to worry about them05:00
remedialjoe_BluesKaj: Uninstalling the language-pack-en and/or language-pack-kde-en seems to fix it for now*05:00
remedialjoe_ooh have to get rid of dolphin05:01
remedialjoe_ubuntu  did you do that yet?05:01
ubuntuno =(05:01
ubuntui like dolphin05:01
remedialjoe_i think the move problem is related to that05:01
BluesKajHydrogen, remedialjoe, too late for me , borked kde and the dcopserver, couldn't get past login ...had to do clean install05:01
ubuntujust kill me already05:01
ubuntui have to use konq?05:01
Hydrogendoing a clean instasll was a bit exagerrating05:02
remedialjoe_ubuntu well if you want to avoid the copy/move thing altogether05:02
HydrogenI don't understand the ability for it too happen05:02
ubuntui wouldnt even know how to word that problem for google05:02
BluesKajHydrogen, there was no other way , I asked for help and waited for hours, but nobody kne waht the fix was.05:03
BluesKajknew what05:03
ubuntuhow many passes does it make?05:03
remedialjoe_ubuntu  not too sure05:04
remedialjoe_also nice animation on the reel.wmv lol05:04
remedialjoe_started laughing.. then.. "woooah" when the rex came out05:04
BluesKajHydrogen, besides, I was able to get rid of kde 359 (awfly buggy)05:04
ubuntuim a better animator than that now05:05
remedialjoe_laughing when the _cat was playing with the ball05:05
ubuntui gag whenever i watch it now lol05:05
remedialjoe_heheh man whatever they are sweet05:05
remedialjoe_makes me wish i could animate05:05
ubuntui paid alot of money to go to school for it05:06
ubuntui cant get a job05:06
BluesKajI also turned the adept notifier off05:06
remedialjoe_ubuntu that seems to be the case for most professions these days05:06
remedialjoe_just stick with it and eventually someone will grab you up05:06
BluesKajhey guys there' an #animation chat if your interested :)05:07
ubuntui cant stick with it anymore05:07
ubuntuim going to try and get a degree in computer engineering05:07
HydrogenTheres probably a #tissue as well05:07
remedialjoe_well i mean if you have to get something else for now.. yeah.. but think of contracts etc05:07
remedialjoe_hahaha hydge05:07
remedialjoe_plus times be tough right now05:07
BluesKajyeah it's called #offtopic05:07
ubuntumy loan payments are over 800 a month05:07
Hydrogen!offtopic | ubuntu05:08
ubotuubuntu: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:08
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remedialjoe_gonna nex it up gl with the recov05:09
ubuntulol this has said an hour for the past 30 minutes05:13
remedialjoe_hehehe man i just schooled in nexuiz05:15
remedialjoe_sometimes i feel so bad05:15
ubuntucan i run nexiuz on live cd?05:16
* ubuntu is dreaming05:16
remedialjoe_how muchr am do you have05:16
remedialjoe_1gb will load buntu into os fully05:16
remedialjoe_another 800 megs will give you nex05:16
remedialjoe_i think05:16
ubuntubuntu is 200mb?>05:16
remedialjoe_into ram? i dunno05:17
remedialjoe_i dunno exactly how much but when i had a process manager on my taskbar..  i think it used close to a gb05:17
ubuntuid like to create a customized cd of kubuntu........but i dunno how05:17
remedialjoe_i mean it didn't have to.. but thats paging 0 information05:17
storbeckubuntu, You want to make your own live cd?05:18
remedialjoe_there are a bunch of ways05:18
remedialjoe_i think stor will know more then i tho05:18
ubuntuyea so like when i reinstall maya will be installed already05:18
storbecklol, for all the questions you ask I think you have a long way to go before you can do that.05:18
remedialjoe_reconstructor ?05:19
ubuntulike what questionds05:19
storbeck<ubuntu> i cant remember how to mount ntfs on lviecd05:20
remedialjoe_ubuntu take a look at http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/ ..t his may or may not be what you are looking for =]05:20
storbeckFor example05:20
ubuntuum ok05:20
ubuntuits not exactly straight forward05:20
ubuntubut whatever, demean and patronize me05:21
remedialjoe_;] they will05:21
ubuntubelittle is probably a more appropriate word05:21
remedialjoe_uhmm i think reconstructor is gnome based :/05:21
storbeckI'm not patronizing you. I'm just saying you have some more to learn before you can tackle making your own livecd.05:22
remedialjoe_ubuntu: http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm05:22
remedialjoe_thats the hard way05:22
ubuntustumbling on something as backwards and sideways as mounting an ntfs volume on kubuntu livecd is not enough for someone to judge whether i can or cannot make my own livecd05:23
storbeckOkay ubuntu05:23
remedialjoe_*looks at the floor05:23
remedialjoe_*looks at bong05:24
remedialjoe_er that should have read.. looks at gong ......05:24
storbeckSure it did.05:24
ubuntujudging by this guide it doesnt look like you can add installed programs......?05:25
remedialjoe_oh my bad :(05:25
ubuntuim not entirely sure05:26
remedialjoe_google it up05:26
remedialjoe_i've been meaning to do the same thing as well05:26
remedialjoe_maybe we could work on it together05:27
remedialjoe_#kubuntu-live if you want to work on it now and not bother storbeck05:28
ubuntuso you can customize a live cd to include 3d support maybe?05:29
remedialjoe_joing #kubuntu-live05:30
storbeckIt's not bothering me. I was just giving advice.05:30
SilentDisquestion: my motherboard died.  rather than just replace, i decided to upgrade.  going from 32-bit environment to a single-core 64-bit chip (amd939 on an ASRock 939Dual board).  I'll be dropping my 2 drives into this box... will i be having any prolems?05:33
remedialjoe_SilentDis: I doubt it05:34
remedialjoe_SilentDis: same issue here 2 months ago..05:34
ubuntuwhy do people want to go to 64bit so bad05:34
SilentDisremedialjoe_: cool.05:34
remedialjoe_because time is running out till 2038 ;]05:34
SilentDisubuntu: i went because it's actually cheaper lol05:35
remedialjoe_you know about y2038 ...05:35
ubuntuwell getting a 64 chip and running 64 is 2 different things05:35
SilentDisomg y2038!  *runs in circles*05:35
ubuntuyou mean y2k3805:35
ubuntuits funnier that way05:35
remedialjoe_ubuntu yes  i do lol05:35
ubuntuyou missed05:35
SilentDisgood point lol05:35
ubuntuheres the targer (( ---  ))05:36
remedialjoe_yah i didn't know they made 32 bit cpus still for desktops05:36
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ubuntuheres you (( -------- ))                                x05:36
SilentDiswhile it would be neat at some point to figure out the whole 64-bit os/32-bit userspace thing... that'll be later :)05:36
ubuntuthere are no apps for most people that utilize 64 bit05:36
ubuntuthere are for me05:36
ubuntujust like with dual core05:36
SilentDisi'll be happy with a working 'puter again.  i'm slogging along on a P1 300mhz with 64mb ram and Xubuntu right now.  it HURTS.  lol05:37
ubuntuxubuntu runs on that?05:37
ubuntuplease tell me you had to use the alternate cd05:37
SilentDislittle slow... but works fine for chat/basic web browsing05:37
remedialjoe_slogs i believe is the word for it05:37
ubuntui had problems with kde on 128mb of ram05:37
SilentDisoh yes, alt cd to install lol05:37
ubuntuthank you05:37
ubuntui was like dear LORD!05:37
ubuntuive run out of space for photorec05:38
SilentDisnew box will be an AMD 3700+ chip with 2gb ram, somewhere around 1TB drive space.  *does happy dance*05:38
remedialjoe_ubuntu =[05:38
storbeckSilentDis: Have you looked into DSL?05:38
ubuntueh..........benchmarks show that intel is leading for once05:38
ubuntumaybe i should kiss the data good bye?05:41
SilentDisstupid internet :P05:42
ubuntuhow can i list all the files in subfolders of a dir so i can see them by size....05:42
storbeckubuntu: ls -al05:43
SilentDisubuntu: ls -al will list everything for you... i vaguely remember a df command that makes it easy, but not off the top of my head05:43
jhutchins_wk-a should be unnecssary in most cases.05:43
ubuntumaybe i wasnt being clear05:43
ubuntuthis folder has 100 subdirs with files in them05:43
SilentDisubuntu: you're looking for the the df stuff... does a size check, etc...  lets see if the bot has info05:44
SilentDis!info df05:44
ubotuPackage df does not exist in gutsy05:44
ubotuGraphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T05:44
SilentDisthanks remedialjoe_05:44
ubuntuim going to have to go through each folder one by one this is gonna be fun05:45
SilentDisdf -h will get you for each partition... there was something you could pass to it to just get the current dir... but i can't for the life of me remember what it was05:46
remedialjoe_hold on05:46
SilentDisubuntu:  you're running kde.  use the graphical tools.  kinfocenter does a great drill-down05:46
remedialjoe_df -l /folder05:47
remedialjoe_i wonder if you can tree it05:47
amigo!info coreutils05:47
ubotucoreutils (source: coreutils): The GNU core utilities. In component main, is required. Version 5.97-5.3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1429 kB, installed size 9040 kB05:47
ubuntuim trying to see the filesizes so that i can delete what is too small to be important05:48
SilentDisremedialjoe_: df -l will just show you where it is in the list...  if this was 3 days from now, i'd be able to tell you in seconds with my main box up... i bookmarked a great page with all sorts of df tricks on it there :(05:48
SilentDisubuntu: why won't the graphical tools of KDE help you?  just curious.05:48
ubuntuid love to05:49
ubuntuif there was a way to do it05:49
ubuntulemme clarify again05:49
ubuntuthese files are in 100 folders05:49
SilentDiskonq should do it in tree list view.  then click on the size field, and it'll sort 'em05:49
SilentDiskinfocenter will as well, nice, easy-to-read list of everything, how much is in 'em, etc05:49
ubuntukonq is confusing05:50
ubuntuah there it is05:50
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SilentDisif you've done a LOT of cleaning and it doesn't seem uptodate, the only trick i know that seems to solve it is a quick 'sudo updatedb' to poke the listings.05:51
ubuntuhow do i open all of the folders at once05:51
remedialjoe_ubuntu i think if you just remove dolphin with apt konq will default05:51
storbeckubuntu: ls -al * > output05:51
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SilentDisgonna go read daughter of the empire, bbiab :)05:52
remedialjoe_storbeck: that doesn't show the total size of folders05:52
Daisuke_Idothere is a visual filesystem analyzer05:52
remedialjoe_with contents*05:52
remedialjoe_er including contents file size05:52
Daisuke_Ido!info baobab05:53
ubotuPackage baobab does not exist in gutsy05:53
storbeckls -al | grep '^d05:53
remedialjoe_i'd also like to know how to do that in console05:53
storbeckls -al | grep '^d'05:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baobab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:54
Daisuke_Ido!info filelight05:54
ubotufilelight (source: filelight): show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 608 kB, installed size 1740 kB05:54
ubuntuthis is frustrating enough.........that im about to say forget it lol05:55
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storbeckubotu: This might be cleaner05:56
storbeckdu -sk */05:56
tim__hi... having some trouble with 7.10 - cannot do any updating, and wanted to know if it is because I have to reset the address from IPv6 to IPv4... anyone aware of any workaround?05:56
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remedialjoe_tim does your adept keep crashing/restarting?05:59
storbeckubotu: Did that work?05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about did that work? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:59
storbeckubuntu: Did that work?05:59
remedialjoe_storbeck:  i think du is the comman .. but the flags aren't all there05:59
storbeckHow so?06:00
remedialjoe_say you have a directory of directories06:00
remedialjoe_and you want to see the total file size of each indidvidually06:00
remedialjoe_without displaying the contents themselves06:00
storbeckdu */ will do that.06:01
remedialjoe_can you explain the syntax of */ ?06:01
storbeck* = folder name / = defines it as a folder06:01
remedialjoe_*everything /  = folder?06:01
remedialjoe_storbeck:  oh wow06:03
remedialjoe_very cool06:03
remedialjoe_i've always wanted to know how to do that.. thanks!06:04
jcgkffycssorry, just wondering since people don't seem to be getting it, ubotu is not a person, it's a program designed to answer simple questions right?06:06
storbeckjcgkffycs: I was talking to ubuntu not ubutu06:07
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Vistasomeone else owns it!06:09
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Longhornsomeone else owns it!06:09
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mrunagiboy im glad i didnt wait to finish it06:11
mrunagithats more trouble than its worth06:11
mrunagiMOSTof the mpgs downloaded were from dvd iso.........which is strange to me06:11
Daisuke_IdoHydrogen: you could always go for Server_200806:11
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mrunagido you have to safely remove ext3 drives too or is that an ntfs thing06:14
codyHas anyone had to deal with the canadian language pack lock up?  im woried about updating my system06:14
mrunagiwhat is the deal with these language packs06:15
mrunagiwhere are these packs?06:15
codythey should be in the ubuntu repositories06:15
mrunagido i need to be concerned?06:16
codydo you use english-CA?06:16
mrunagiwhy would anyone need to install language packs06:16
codythey come with the system updates06:16
mrunagii havent seen them06:16
mrunagiwait a second........is the reason kubuntu asks for where you live is not only for time zone but repo locations too06:17
codyit selects your language pack...06:17
codythe repos should be the same06:17
codyyou can change your language pack by right clicking the clock and selecting date and time format06:17
mrunagioh i see06:18
mrunagiso if i havent seen these language packs i shouldnt worry?06:18
codyif you dont use english-CA then it doesnt affect you...06:18
Daisuke_Idodoesn't the english-CA pack just add "eh" to the end of sentences and change "ou" to "oo"? </joke>06:19
mrunagii thought the en language packs were doing damage06:19
codythats the only one06:20
mrunagigod bles america! :D06:20
codyi just finished the install, ill reboot and see if i can log in06:20
Daisuke_Idomrunagi: en-CA is the culprit.  our neighbors to the north are borked for the moment06:20
mrunagioooooh canadaaaaaa06:20
mrunagifor a second i thought i offended him lol06:20
codyhad to change to the en-US language pack to boot06:22
Reconizeri missed you06:22
Reconizermy pal06:22
codygood man you did :D06:22
Reconizercody :006:22
noodles12hi, i just installed kubuntu 7.10, but there seems to be nothing in my kmenu under kmenu>>system               (i believe this is where things like synaptic and stuff are?)06:23
Reconizerkde on windows :O how does that make you feel cody?06:23
codywindows in kde, how does that jmake you feel reconizer06:24
codyright click your kmenu, and click menu editor.  is it enabled?06:24
noodles12i see more applications, terminal applications, in its submenu. but i don't see where to enable or disable it06:25
remedialjoe_my multicolumn view isn't showing the full title name.. and there are no coloum lines to expand =[06:26
codyif they are there when you expand system, it should appear in kmenu...  maybe try refreshing your desktop?  i dont know why it would not appear06:27
noodles12cody: synaptic wasn't installed by default. Is this normal for kubuntu? or maybe nothing in my "system" is installed?06:27
codyits called adept installer in kde.  open it by kmenu > add/remove programs06:28
codythere is also adept manager06:28
codyor use apt-get in terminal06:28
noodles12cody: there is no add/remove programs in my kmenu. I am reusing my /home partition where i previously had pclos and opensuse installed. is it possible whatever prior kde configs i had left over in my /home screwed up my kubuntu install?06:29
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codythats a possibility06:30
codytry installing kde with apt-get?06:30
codythat could resolve the problem06:30
noodles12so just apt-get install kde-base ? or would i need to uninstall it first?06:31
SilentDisnoodles12: i'd suggest sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop06:31
codyi wouldnt recommend uninstalling it.  if you need to remove kde, install gnome and then reinstall kde06:31
cody^^  that should work06:32
HydrogenIf you need to remove kde... install gnome and then install kde?06:32
Daisuke_Idothat may be the worst advice ever...  and i listen to my own!06:32
SilentDisi came into this discussion late...  but i do recommend using the 'named' packages to grab stuff for ubuntu.  kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, etc06:32
HydrogenI think something got lost in translation.06:32
remedialjoe_how come my multi column view in konq is only listing 16 characters now06:33
codyinstall kubuntu-desktop would be the best way, thank you silentdis06:33
remedialjoe_before it listen almost the entire file name contents06:33
remedialjoe_what have i done here06:33
noodles12ok thanks gusy. i'll try that... stupid opensuse!06:34
SilentDiscody: nt.  seen a lot of problems with kde being 'dropped in' without the ubuntu-specific stuff.  lotta settings have to be done by hand and such, real pain in the ass, and especially useless when it's already done for ya with the <n>ubuntu-desktop packages :)06:34
remedialjoe_found it   tools/configure konquerer, appearece .. width for icon text06:34
noodles12it says kubuntu-desktop is already it's newest version...06:35
noodles12should i remove it and then reinstall?06:35
SilentDisnoodles12 if you do, make SURE you throw either gnome or xfce at it first06:35
SilentDisnoodles12 something like 'aptitude install ubuntu-desktop' reboot, choose to use gnome.  then a 'aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop'06:36
noodles12SilentDis: if i just booted into recover mode. would i be able to aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop and then install kubuntu-desktop?06:36
SilentDisnoodles12 what is the original problem?  there's usually an easier solution is all :)06:37
SilentDisafk 1 moment, gotta release excess caffinated liquids :)06:37
DezineI just install KDE 4 and for some reason there is no bottom bar?06:37
noodles12SilentDis: i came i started with ubuntu, then pclos, then opensus... kept the same /home folder. I installed kubuntu and my kmenu>system is empty and there is no kmenu>add/remove programs so i feel like i'm missing things or teh remnants of messing w/ the kde setup from the other 2 distros are still in my /home folder and messing with my fresh kubuntu install06:38
SilentDisnoodles12 ohhh... how about the real easy method then? :D06:39
noodles12SilentDis: yea hook it up =)06:39
SilentDisnoodles12 you are in safe mode now, right?06:39
noodles12no. i'm in normal kubuntu06:39
SilentDisnoodles12 er, recovery mode.  whatever.  stupid windowsisms are hard to brake lol06:39
noodles12SilentDis: i can go into recovery mode in a bit, i'm in regular session right now06:41
SilentDisnoodles12 ok.  boot to either recovery or off your ubuntu cd.  mount whatever drive /home is on, and rename your home folder.  go from /home/noodles12 to /home/noodles12-old.  reboot.  login as normal.  your home folder will be rebuilt from scratch for you, and you can just go in and port all your files over without worry06:41
ajajajaI prefer Windows over Kubuntu though ...06:41
ajajajaToo much clicking around on Kubuntu ...06:41
remedialjoe_clicking around06:41
remedialjoe_are you not familiar with katapult06:41
ajajajaalt ----><--- ?06:42
noodles12SilentDis: that command ( just ot make sure is )   "mv /home/noodles12 /home/noodles111     "  right?06:42
remedialjoe_so good06:42
ajajajaPlus I dont like the default Nautilus behavior on Kubuntu06:42
SilentDisnoodles12 exactly :)06:42
noodles12sweet... i'll be back!06:42
ajajajaWhy is Kubuntu in spatial mode by default ? Can someone tell me ?06:43
Lionoi need to setup a network with windows clients and kubuntu server. (authenticate windows clients from the server via LDAP i gues?) what do i need to do first. this is my first day of networking. did even pluged the wires ?06:43
codythanks silentdis for that easier workaround06:43
codylooking at that makes mine look retarded : /06:43
remedialjoe_ajajaja:  can you tell me what spatial mode is06:44
remedialjoe_i know it has something to do with konq (i think)06:44
SilentDiscody i dealt with the same thing going from 6.06 to 7.10.  didn't bther to upgrade my box, just grabbed a package list, renamed my home, and did a fresh install.  sooo nice having /home on a seperate partition :)06:44
ajajajayes Its when you open a folder , then open another one and it opens another window which could stay at the same place06:44
ajajajait is _very_ annoying !06:45
remedialjoe_i enjoy it06:45
SilentDiscody as for your method being retarded... it's not, would work just fine too, but there's nearly always an easier way.  ;)06:45
remedialjoe_i hear there was a big pepsi/coca cola over that one tho06:45
ajajajaSo why the Hell is Kubuntu acting like taht ?06:45
ajajajai prefer pepsi if you ask me ....06:45
remedialjoe_no man only coke tastes good.. pepsi can't taste as good.06:46
ajajajaSO you use Konqueror in kinda spatial mode ?06:46
remedialjoe_there's no way06:46
ajajajaomg ! thats not true !06:46
SilentDiscoke, out of the fountain only.  this discussion is closed.06:46
ajajajayou are mean06:46
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ajajajapepsi MAXX06:46
remedialjoe_truely i prefer pepsi when i am mixing drinks..  but coke if i am just enjoying a carbonated beverage06:47
Liono_can any one see me?06:47
remedialjoe_mind you i prefer jones cola cause of the evaporated cane sugar06:47
remedialjoe_Liono_:  yep06:47
Liono_remedialjoe i need to setup a network with windows clients and kubuntu server. (authenticate windows clients from the server via LDAP i gues?) what do i need to do first. this is my first day of networking. did even pluged the wires ?06:47
Daisuke_Idoremedialjoe_: good luck.06:47
ajajajai prefer JD and COke06:48
SilentDisremedialjoe_ well... yeah.  jones sodas in general is not to be classed with such brutish beverages as produced by either pepsi or coke though.  kinda like compairing a fliet mignon made at a 5-star new york restaurant to a burger from mcdonalds...06:48
remedialjoe_Liono_:  I said I could see you.. But I can't anser that for you =]06:48
remedialjoe_SilentDis:  this is very true06:48
ajajajafilet mignon06:49
Liono_i need to setup a network with windows clients and kubuntu server. (authenticate windows clients from the server via LDAP i gues?) what do i need to do first. this is my first day of networking. ?06:49
remedialjoe_Liono_: spend another 3 years reading how-to's ?06:49
SilentDisLiono_ why does it 'have' to be a kubuntu server?  wouldn't ubuntu server be a better match for something like that?  the packages for samba are already setup then.06:50
Liono_SilentDis iam too used to kde.06:50
surgy!samba | Liono_06:50
ubotuLiono_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.06:50
SilentDisLiono_ try this then: aptitude install ubuntu-server (i believe that's the correct meta-package, someone will correct me if i'm wrong, i'm sure) :)06:51
SilentDisLiono_ that way you'll have both your kde gui and all the packages setup for a true server environment06:51
Liono_surgy SilentDis so i need to install samba first and make a network, to use LDAP ?06:51
surgyLiono_: listen to SilentDis he prolly knows more about it06:52
SilentDisLiono_ I have not gone through the whole 'making windows like my linux boxes' fiasco... instead i just 'upgraded' my network to use all debian-based OSes... well, cept my tiny webserver, but that's just because i'm lazy and haven't poked my head into it's closet in months lol06:52
Liono_so before installing ldap. i need to make  a network by samba? right?06:53
ajajajaDo you really think kubuntu will get kde 4.0 in a short time, knowing how unstable it is ?06:53
SilentDisi think it's uptime is around 9 or 10 months now... i think that was the last power outage we had...06:54
surgyLiono_: for simple file sharing and printer sharing samba is awsome, and im certain it can do more, i just never needed more06:54
noodles12SilentDis: hey it didn't work. I got a "unable to start ksysstartupconfig" or something like that... " check installatoin"06:54
remedialjoe_i think you are running into the upgrade problem noodles1206:54
noodles12remedialjoe_: what upgrade problem? it was a clean install.. sortof..06:55
SilentDisnoodles12 ok, you ARE missing something in the install, or some package is marked funny it sounds like.  what release of kubuntu are we talking here?06:55
remedialjoe_noodles12:  did you upgrade/update06:55
Liono_surgy so before installing ldap. i need to make  a network by samba? right?06:55
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surgyLiono_: to be perfectly honest i dont even know what ldap is, so you shouldnt listen to me06:56
remedialjoe_yah truely you should scrap all windows clients and go *nix completely.. it will save you loads of problems06:56
SilentDisLiono_ in all seriousness... we are probably not gonna be able to answer this right off for you.  i would highly recommend doing a quick 'aptitude install ubuntu-server' and hopping over there, they'll be FAR more knowledgable about setting that kinda thing up.  use, general desktop troubleshooting, BASIC networking, etc, that's our forte06:57
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support06:57
noodles12SilentDis: when i moved /home/noodles12 to /home/noodles12_backup i got that msg. i just renamed it back to /home/noodles12 to boot here to talk to u guys =). did i need to mkdir /home/noodles12 ? i was assuming kubuntu would just make a new directory06:57
remedialjoe_yah.. once you've setup your server in ubuntu .. come back and we will show you how to throw KDE back on06:57
Liono_SilentDis yes. but what to do next.06:58
SilentDisnoodles12 it shoulda made it for you... i did just have an idea though...06:58
SilentDisLiono_ read that whole !info bit... there's a server-specific room which will have people who are FAR more inclined to have the info you need.  #ubuntu-server06:58
noodles12SilentDis: now Kmenu>settings disappeared06:59
Liono_SilentDis k07:00
SilentDisnoodles12 what about just renaming ~/.kde to ~/my-.kde-backup and restarting x (ctrl-alt-backspace)?07:00
noodles12i'll try it07:00
ajajajaAre there any kubuntu devs hanging aound here sometimes ?07:01
remedialjoe_in addition to the language pack upgrade bit .. after removing the two packages, if you add another  you won't get the "can't set locale"   issues .. i used language-pack-ca-en  and everything *seems smooth07:01
SilentDisajajaja they lurk, and are known to pounce and boot windows fanbois.  it is really entertaining to watch :D07:02
ajajajaBut they must not be many of them here07:02
ajajajaKubuntu is to l33t for them i suppose ...07:02
SilentDisajajaja big brother is watching you.  love big brother. fear big brother *giggle*07:02
ajajajaClick here ... Click over there07:02
grulwhat? how? kubuntu is too l33t for kubuntu devs?07:03
ajajajafor Windows fanbois07:03
gruli see07:03
ajajajaMS-Windows sry ...07:03
grulnow it all made sense07:03
* SilentDis gets ready for the Two Minute Hate07:03
remedialjoe_*grabs lighter07:03
alucardromeroIs there a compiled list of supported printers on the interwebs?07:03
ajajajaSo how can i get rid of Nautilus on my default Kubuntu ?07:03
remedialjoe_what do you prefer to use over nautilus07:04
grulas far as i know kubuntu is as much click here, click there as windows, except there are options to click here and click there, which there aren't in windows07:04
SilentDisalucardromero probably over at the cups homepage... i can tell you from experience, virtually anything HP works.07:04
ajajajai dont want nautilus i want konqueror07:04
ajajajaPlus i dont like that feet logo ...07:04
alucardromeroYeah, that's why I'm thinking about getting an HP printer.  I have a Lexmark 4350.07:04
Daisuke_Idohp and brother both tend to be good07:04
remedialjoe_i am using konqueror07:04
remedialjoe_why aren't you07:05
SilentDisHP has much linux <3 :)07:05
ajajajaso why do I have Nautilus as file manager on my Kubuntu ?07:05
remedialjoe_dolphin was installed by default .. i removed that and konqueror defaulted07:05
Daisuke_Idoajajaja: if you're using kubuntu, konqueror is the default file manager.07:05
remedialjoe_ajajaja:  are you sure its not Dolphin07:05
alucardromeroI've noticed... it's even compatible with the HP fax machine printers.07:05
alucardromeroIt's awesome.07:05
ajajajano plus they tel me sometimes to use kate07:05
SilentDisajajaja did you install ubuntu, then 'side-grade' to kubuntu?07:05
Daisuke_Idokate is a text editor07:05
ajajajabut i dont seem to find any kate program07:05
Daisuke_Idoyou're comparing apples to toyotas07:05
Daisuke_Idodo you even HAVE kde?07:06
alucardromeroHe has LMNOP... :P07:06
SilentDisapples are tasty.  toyotas are tasty with enough salt on them...07:06
ajajajaYes I have KDE with the feet logo top left corner07:06
SilentDissorry, i'll go sit in my corner.07:06
alucardromeroLoL... that's Gnome... isn't it?07:06
SilentDisajajaja that's Gnome.07:06
Daisuke_Idothat's NOT kde07:06
ajajajaIts Kubuntu07:06
Daisuke_Idono it isn't.07:06
ajajajano its kubuntu i know what im saying !07:06
remedialjoe_this guy is shwacked07:07
SilentDisajajaja kubuntu = Ubuntu with KDE.  ubuntu = ubuntu with Gnome.07:07
Daisuke_Idoeither you're really confused or you're trolling.07:07
ajajajauh ???07:07
alucardromeroYeah, this is giving me diarrhea.07:07
remedialjoe_either he's trolling or he didn't install kde properly from a ubuntu install07:07
ajajajaMy screenshots dont look the same as others ? Why ?07:07
alucardromeroIs the background orange or blue?07:07
SilentDisajaja, type the following at a prompt and tell me the package status:  aptitude show kubuntu-desktop07:07
alucardromero;)  It's Ubuntu.07:07
remedialjoe_ajajaja:  what SilentDis said07:07
ajajajaCome on guys dont feed me !!!!!!!!!!!!!1107:08
ajajajaDONT FEED ME !07:08
remedialjoe_what a weirdo07:08
Daisuke_Idono, you're now ignored.07:08
remedialjoe_i thought i was a loose cannon.. but this guy07:08
ajajajaso much for Plasmq07:08
SilentDisumm... should i push this button labeled !ops or will someone else do it for me?07:08
ubotuHelp! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!07:08
SilentDisthank you Daisuke_Ido :)07:08
Daisuke_IdoSilentDis: glad to oblige07:08
Daisuke_Idooiy vey07:09
SilentDishow do the mentally retarded keep finding this place?07:09
Daisuke_Idohe wasn't retarded, he knew exactly what he was doing07:09
alucardromeroThat's a very interesting question.07:09
alucardromeroHe was just screwing with us... 'tis all.07:10
alucardromero"Let's go piss off the geeks!07:10
mneptokthat will be quite enough of that.07:10
Myrth[home]hi, is it possible to choose which applications will start next time with kde desktop?07:10
Myrth[home]it's really annoying to close everytime all the applications i don't want but they popup again everytime07:11
alucardromeroWhoa... *!*@nor75-15-82-67-191-232.fbx.proxad.net just got... PWNED! :P07:11
SilentDisMyrth[home] sounds like you have them in a saved session07:11
SilentDisMyrth[home] no biggie.  kubuntu 7.10?07:11
Myrth[home]doesn't session gets resaved on close?07:11
Myrth[home]right now 8.04 =] , but happened always07:12
alucardromeroIt has to... anything you have open comes back when you boot back up.07:12
SilentDisMyrth[home] it's an option, just like everything else in KDE ;)07:12
Myrth[home]alucardromero: i close everything, log out, then it reopens again07:12
remedialjoe_i've had that happen07:12
alucardromeroWhoa... phantom apps?07:12
DezineI'm having some issues with KDE4.. There's no bottom bar and my desktop resets everytime I log out (icon placement and widgets).07:12
remedialjoe_i think it was kopete07:12
remedialjoe_and konqueror file browsing07:12
Myrth[home]for example epiphany - i logged into gnome one time. since then it opens always07:13
SilentDisMyrth[home] there SHOULD be an option somewhere right off the menu for 'save session'.  otherwise, when you hit the logoff button, it should have a checkbox you can drop a tick into07:13
alucardromeroKDE4... icky.  Got rid of that right away.07:13
Myrth[home]no, no kde4 for me :P07:13
alucardromeroI couldn't find any network manager or network tools.07:13
Myrth[home]kde3 is perfect for me07:14
SilentDisDezine kde4 is still very wonky beta.  is there a specific room anywhere that might have more info? *pokes the bot*07:14
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde407:14
SilentDisthere we go :)07:14
alucardromeroDezine: I would switch back to KDE3 a.s.a.p.07:14
SilentDiswow, it is released.  shows how up on things i am lol07:14
DezineEh, I don't use KDE307:15
alucardromeroFor me, lots of typical use items were missing from KDE4.07:15
DezineI typically use gnome but want to check out kde4 for a bit, kde3 isn't my thing07:15
alucardromeroAh, okay.07:15
remedialjoe_where is the "sessions" manager thing07:15
DezineI think it has great potential and I don't want to miss out :)07:16
SilentDisi went from gnome when i first switched to linux, then to kde later.07:16
alucardromeroIt does... the widget system is awesome, but it gets confusing.07:16
alucardromeroKDE3 is to KD3 as WindowsXP is to WindowsVista... for me anyways.07:17
SilentDisoy working at a gas station part time is REALLY not a good idea for me lol07:17
DezineYeah, I'd like to get it working, I think I can get used to it.07:17
alucardromeroWait... I did that wrong...07:17
alucardromeroKDE3 is to KD4 as WindowsXP is to WindowsVista... for me anyways.07:17
alucardromeroIt's just better to stick with the older ones.07:18
SilentDisas if i don't smoke enough already, now there's all sorts of interesting 2-for-1 deals staring me in the face during my shift lmao07:18
remedialjoe_my User Management module could not be loaded.. hrmm07:18
DezineI like new stuff, I like betas and sometimes alphas if I feel risky.07:19
azzcoalucardromero: kde 3 is at 3.5.9 kde4 is it 4.0.1! Right now you can't really compare the two07:19
alucardromeroHeh, true.07:19
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde407:19
SilentDisis the plan for 8.04 or 8.06 anyway?07:20
alucardromeroFrom the screenshots I've seen, they're using KDE3.07:20
alucardromero3.5.9 to exact.07:20
remedialjoe_where do i find the option for save session on exit?07:20
alucardromeroGnome or KDE?07:20
SilentDiswas gonna say, if it's 8.04, they might go kde4.  if it's 8.06lts, they'll be sticking with kde307:20
SilentDisi can almost guarntee 8.10 with kde4 though.  just how things move07:21
azzcoSilentDis: then we'll have KDE4.1 so most likely it'll be a bit more stable :)07:22
alucardromerodcop ksmserver default saveCurrentSession07:22
SilentDisazzco exactly07:22
SilentDisstandard ubuntu mantra there.  available via extra repos, matures over time, include for general consumption.  serves the community really well imo :)07:23
remedialjoe_alucardromero:  ha, thankyou07:24
SilentDis*scribbles that little line down furiously on scraps of paper*07:25
remedialjoe_*copies/pastes into tips/tricks.txt07:25
remedialjoe_oh geez07:25
remedialjoe_nexuiz is callin07:25
SilentDisremedialjoe_ darn you and your working computer.  this laptop sucks lol07:25
alucardromero*brews cup of coffee*07:26
remedialjoe_speaking of laptops sucking .. hahaha07:26
SilentDisit serves me well as a chatbox for when i'm playing wow or doing work on my main box.  outside that... it's a paperweight lol07:26
alucardromeroMine rocks, and it was only 375.0007:26
alucardromeroAs long as it runs Half Life 2 Deathmatch, I'm okay.07:27
SilentDisi hate you, and hope you perish horribly in a fire. :P07:27
remedialjoe_half life 2 deathmatch on a laptop for 375 thats a score.. it will run nex then, no?07:27
alucardromeroOh, and did I mention, I can play HL2DM on high settings.07:27
SilentDishmm... i shouldn't say that... aluardromero, what machine, and where did you get it?07:28
alucardromeroYes, indeed... runs Nex nice.07:28
remedialjoe_what kind of videocard is in that puppy07:28
alucardromeroIt's a Acer Aspire 531507:28
Myrth[home]mmm.. i know it's java and ubuntu+1.. but maybe someone knows?.. all my java apps after upgrade to 8.04 started giving this error: http://paste2.org/p/1436507:28
SilentDisis that the little thing they have over at wal-mart?07:28
alucardromeroIntel 965 integrated07:28
remedialjoe_i've never played with intel video chipsets before07:29
alucardromero1GB Ram, 80GB HDD, 1.73GHz Celeron... all Intel chipset.07:29
remedialjoe_i mean more then the older ones.. nothing with great 3d07:29
SilentDisalucardromero it is!  did you order that from their website or just pop into the evil empire and buy it?07:29
alucardromeroWell, if you keep WinVista on there, hardly anything will run.07:29
alucardromeroThe evil empire.07:30
SilentDiskicks ass with kubuntu though?  i was looking at the specs going "hey, not bad, would run linux nice..." myself when i saw it.07:30
remedialjoe_which drivers does *nix use for intel vid?07:30
alucardromeroYeah, OpenGL drivers work great too.07:30
SilentDisalucardromero sweet!  how's it do with stuff like compiz / World of Warcraft?07:31
alucardromeroUmm... xserver-xorg-video-intel07:31
alucardromeroI haven't tested Compiz yet and I don't play World of Warcraft.07:31
remedialjoe_nex and tron are about all I play07:31
Myrth[home]are there plans for xorg to have multi-head without reboot?...07:31
remedialjoe_armagetron ..07:31
surgy!samba | Liono_07:32
ubotuLiono_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.07:32
SilentDisdarn.  compiz is fun... and i suffer from complete WoW addiction lmao07:32
alucardromeroI play Nex rarely because of HL2DM.07:32
SilentDiswait, it plays HL2?07:32
remedialjoe_this is even after nex 2,307:32
alucardromeroI had a dedicated server running Nex, but... for some damn reason they have a background process killer.07:32
SilentDisif it does ok in HL2, then it'll scream with WoW.  guess i know where my government rebate check is going!07:33
alucardromeroI would log in through shell and see about a dozen screens with "(Dead ??)"07:33
alucardromeroMy rebate check is going to an Eight Virtues PC.07:33
remedialjoe_that probablye xplains why some servers like galt quit unexpectedly07:33
remedialjoe_maybe its a script that runs again after it dies?07:34
alucardromeroYeah, that's what I'm guessing.07:34
SilentDisfinally be able to ditch this POS as well.  woot!07:34
remedialjoe_man keep it07:34
alucardromeroYeah, use it as a server.07:34
remedialjoe_for when ppl come by and need to use the interwebs07:34
remedialjoe_or that07:34
SilentDisoh, it'll sit in the basement and gather dust.  don't worry about that :)07:35
remedialjoe_bathroom interwebbin07:35
alucardromeroHave you seen the Eight Virtues PCs?07:35
alucardromeroThe come shipped with Ubuntu.07:35
SilentDisactually... i do have a bit of an oddball here for ya...07:35
SilentDisi have 3 Point-of-sale touch screen computers sitting here... was thinking of turning them into linux boxen07:36
alucardromeroOoooh... not a bad idea.07:36
SilentDisthey currently run Win98, touchscreen is driven like a mouse pointer07:36
SilentDisthey are rather low powered.  P2 233s with 64mb ram07:36
SilentDis20gb drives07:36
SilentDisanyone played with anything like this?  how's linux support of 'weird' pointer interfaces like that?07:37
alucardromeroIt would probably be treated as a moust pointer as well.07:38
SilentDisi know the lotto terminal at work runs MontaVista linux (seen it boot up a couple times)07:38
remedialjoe_isn't that the generic wacom tablet driver07:38
alucardromeroI was thinking that too, but he said in Win98 it's driven like a mouse pointer.07:38
SilentDisi have no idea how i'm gonna get them to start from a CD though.  the PSU inside is dinky, just enough to run the board and 1 drive.07:38
SilentDisi *think* i saw a 'boot from usb' option though... was gonna try throwing a CD drive into an external HD enclosure and give it a go.07:39
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SilentDiswant to put one in the kitchen for surfing epicurious.com and such07:40
noodles12SilentDis: it didn't work. but i did the mv /home/noodles12_backup and just reinstalled kubuntu from disc07:40
noodles12SilentDis: thanks for all ur help!07:40
SilentDisnoodles12 doh.  well, at least it's working, and you didn't loose anything.  glad that got ya going at least. :)07:41
alucardromeroHas anybody tried running...07:41
alucardromerozgrep "The.*Release" /usr/share/doc/dpkg/changelog.Debian.gz07:41
alucardromeroin a terminal?07:41
noodles12SilentDis: yea.... yay kubuntu works!07:41
SilentDisnoodles12 and, you can even port over all your bookmarks, files, etc, etc etc from the old home directory :)07:42
storbeckalucardromero: You no want zgrep.07:42
storbeckYOU WANT HOT POCKET07:42
alucardromeroHeh, it's all the random release names for Debian.07:43
SilentDisi make hot pockets.  from scratch.  they taste better :)07:43
alucardromeroTry it, it'll just echo all the release names... they're funny too...LoL07:43
alucardromerozgrep "The.*Release" /usr/share/doc/dpkg/changelog.Debian.gz07:43
SilentDisplus, i can make them with interesting combos that they don't think of.  spinach and italian sausage alfrado hot pocket anyone?07:44
alucardromeroThe "Donald, where's your troosers?" Release.07:44
alucardromero  The "Let the Wookie win" Release.07:44
alucardromero  The DebConf4 Release.07:44
* SilentDis is trying to decide to either go to sleep, or open another pack of ciggies and continue hanging out here07:46
jussi01!ot | alucardromero07:46
ubotualucardromero: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:46
SilentDisjussi01 i know, i know, my ot stuff is teh evil too.  i will be good :)07:46
alucardromeroRoger that. :\07:46
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SilentDisdumb question?  been a while since i used bitchx from a terminal screen.  what's the command to hop between already joined chatrooms?07:50
jussi01SilentDis: notsure on bitchx, but on irssi its alt + number07:53
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storbeck./hop #room07:54
storbeckor ctrl+w 1/2/3/4/5/etc07:58
jussi01storbeck: you knowhe left already...07:59
storbeckOh, oops07:59
vanchuckKDE is crashing at graphical login... right at "Initilising System Services"08:15
vanchuck/var/log/kdm.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log contain no errors08:15
vanchucktried reinstalling nvidia drivers, using nv and vesa instead, still same problem08:16
vanchuck~/.xsession-errors contains some errors though, first one is "startkde: kpersonalizer not found! please install to properly configure your user"08:16
vanchucklater on it says 'kdeint: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!'08:17
vanchuckif I type in startkde on command line it comes up with different errors...08:17
vanchuckany clues? :-(08:17
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vanchuckjust did apt-get install kpersonalizer, it ran a wizard at startup, but still same problem afterwards08:19
ErtainHello everyone.08:21
ErtainWhenever I move my cursor too far off the screen it goes to the next desktop.  How do I stop this functionality?08:21
Oscar_Acosta_how do I disable this icon zooming effect when launching a certain application shortcut from the panel?08:23
vanchuckif anyone cares, it seems my problem is related to the language pack update that went out a few days back08:24
storbeckHeh, yeah08:25
vanchuckhah, and it's only Canadian English that causes the problem08:25
vanchuckus poor Canadians08:25
storbeckPeople were in here earlier complaining about it.08:25
vanchuckalways being made fun of08:25
storbeckIt's a bug.08:25
sgrovervanchuck - I ran into that one today (I'm in Calgary)08:27
sgroverDid you sort it out?08:27
vanchuckjust trying the qt-language-select thing now08:28
sgroverI recovered from it, so can give you some tips...08:28
gundam_rx78nt1hello. I would like to know what packages I have installed on the system so I can rebuild it.08:28
sgroverhehe.. that failed for me.  I was able to get into the kcontrol and set the language there.  I had "default" selected, so set it to us english.08:28
storbeckgundam_rx78nt1: Good luck with that. XD08:28
sgroverbut, I "fixed" it with the rollback option earlier...08:28
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Oscar_Acosta_gundam_rx78nt1: dpkg -l08:29
storbeckYou may want to do, dpkg -l > output08:30
storbeckConsidering it will be a rather large list08:30
gundam_rx78nt1ok. see the problem is since the last update, I lost my audio and wireless.  I recovered wireless by removing and re-installing the linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic package but I can't recover audio.08:31
vanchucksgrover: yeah, I'm gonna try to rollback now, the language-selector trick didn't work for me08:31
gundam_rx78nt1I followed the audio troubleshooting guide in the ubuntu forum and still can't get the drivers to load.08:32
storbeckWhat's wrong with the audio?08:32
gundam_rx78nt1Heck, I can't find any audio drivers.08:32
sgrovervanchuck:  On the rollback, the first package didn't seem to have the version number.  I just stripped of the = part08:32
storbeckAre you sure it's not just on mute?08:32
gundam_rx78nt1yes, because aplay -l returns no audio card found.08:32
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vanchuckyessssssss it works08:35
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gundam_rx78nt1at least one happy customer08:35
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remedialjoe_i thought I saw konversation minimize to the system tray08:37
tuxwulfAnyone here understand syslog.conf ...?08:37
gundam_rx78nt1storbeck: any idea how to get it fixed w/o having to do the ms-windoze method (re-install).08:38
piqoniDoes Your ubuntu/kubuntu stuck when using GOogle Earth?08:38
sgrovergundam_rx78nt1: try "lspci".  Your audio card *should* be listed.08:38
sgroverif it is, then it's probably a case of the right modules not being loaded.08:39
gundam_rx78nt1yes, it is listed.08:39
gundam_rx78nt1I can't find any modules.08:39
sgrovertry "lsmod | grep snd"08:39
gundam_rx78nt1there are no snd_ or snd- modules08:39
piqoniDoes Your ubuntu/kubuntu stuck when using GOogle Earth?08:39
gundam_rx78nt1none are loaded.08:39
sgroverdid you by chance install the Server version of buntu?08:39
gundam_rx78nt1no, I didn't, what happened was that I did the update from 2 weeks ago.08:40
sgroverit doesn't enable the audio devices in the kernel08:40
piqoniDoes Your ubuntu/kubuntu stuck when using GOogle Earth?08:40
gundam_rx78nt1it had problems creating the initrd image,08:40
gundam_rx78nt1and in the forum I was instructed to remove the linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic package.08:41
gundam_rx78nt1since then, I haven't had audio or wireless working08:41
sgroverthe linux-headers package *should* match what you have installed.08:41
gundam_rx78nt1I got wireless corrected.08:41
gundam_rx78nt1by re-installing the linux-headers package, but audio still fails.08:41
sgroverwhat kind of sound card?08:41
gundam_rx78nt1it's an Intel 8280, uses the snd_hda_intel drivers08:42
sgroverit's a module problem.  If we're lucky, you have the same card I do.. :)08:42
sgroverone sec...08:42
sgrovernope, not so lucky - I have an nvidia chipset.08:43
gundam_rx78nt1sorry, 82801g08:43
sgroverhmm.. I have the snd_hda_intel modual loaded...08:43
sgroverDid you try to remove the module then re-add it?08:44
sgroverrmmod snd_hda_intel08:44
gundam_rx78nt1sgrover: I don't have the driver/module for any card on the system.08:45
gundam_rx78nt1I try to do a modprobe snd_hda_intel and get the following error:08:45
sgroverI bet you do, but burried under a different name... :)08:45
sgroverOne sec, I'm trying to track mine down.08:45
gundam_rx78nt1FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found.08:45
storbeckgundam_rx78nt1: Reinstall the kernel08:47
gundam_rx78nt1storbeck: when I install the linux-header package doesn't it install the kernel?08:48
storbeckTry this08:48
storbeckNo, it installs the headers08:48
sgrovernope.. just the headers08:48
storbecksudo aptitude install alsa-source08:48
gundam_rx78nt1ok, then how?08:48
storbecksudo module-assistant08:48
storbeckupdate -> prepare08:48
StecchinoI need some help with a Belgian (azerty) keyboard ona macbook08:49
Stecchinojust can not get the layout correct08:49
gundam_rx78nt1storbeck, I have ran module-assistant after re-installing the alsa source.08:49
gundam_rx78nt1It fails during the compilation.08:50
gundam_rx78nt1how do I re-install the kernel?08:50
ubotuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages08:51
sgroverhmm... I don't see a "kernel" package for this sort of thing... just the headers, and the vmware/nvidia modules...08:51
gundam_rx78nt1hence forth I ask, how?08:52
sgroveragreed... but...08:52
gundam_rx78nt1with any other distro, that would be re-compiling it.08:52
gundam_rx78nt1which is what I am used to. Not with ubuntu/kubuntu.08:52
sgroverif you have the build-esential pacakge, you could too.. :)08:52
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sgroverBut I refuse to compile a kernel for buntu - it's supposed to be low maintenance....08:53
sgroverand unless you have a special need, the stock kernel should be fine.08:53
storbeckWhat error is it giving you when building alsa-sources08:53
baskhi there. could anyone tell me how to start a program through ssh on my home computer without stopping when i logout?08:53
gundam_rx78nt1storbeck, give me a moment08:54
sgroverbask command &08:55
sgroveror use screen08:55
sgroverbask: command &08:55
sgrovergundam_rx78nt1: can you run Adept?08:55
StecchinoCan nobody help me with azerty keyboard on a macbook?08:56
sgroverI did a search on Kernel there.  (got a crap load more listed than aptitude search did...)  You'll see which kernel you have installed - linux-generic, linux-image-xxxxx, etc....  You *could* try to remove that package, then reinstall it....08:56
sgroverI wouldn't recommend a reboot before the reinstall though... :)08:57
storbeckYou want the linux-generic. That holds the audio configs08:57
sgroverstorbeck: don't think that's quite right.08:57
gundam_rx78nt1storbeck: you were saying steps with module-assitant.08:57
sgroverI don't have linux-generic installed, and I'm listening to the music right now.08:57
storbeckYou don't have /usr/src/linux-headers-****-generic/ ?08:58
sgroveroops, my mistake.. mis-followed the line... yes, I do have linux-generic installed.08:58
sgrover(it IS 2:00am here.. LOL)08:58
storbeck/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic/sound/ :)08:58
storbeckIt's 4:00 AM here =D08:59
gundam_rx78nt1failed during the pci_save_state.  Exited with an error 2.08:59
sgroverso between the two of us we should be able to get a reasonably straight line.. :)08:59
gundam_rx78nt1storbeck: east coast?09:00
sgrovergundam_rx78nt1: did you see my note about adept?  That's an option...09:00
gundam_rx78nt1I don't have adept.09:00
gundam_rx78nt1not boston right?09:01
basksgrover i tried but it doesn't work09:01
sgroverok, then you can do it from the command line... the packages you want to remove/reinstall (WITHOUT A REBOOT IN BETWEEN): linux-generic and linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic09:02
gundam_rx78nt1ok, here goes nothing... If I don't return, it failed and I will be crying while re-installing.09:02
sgrovergundam_rx78nt1: see you in about an hour then?? :)09:03
sgroverat worst...09:03
sgroverbask: if you use the & character after the command it returns control immediately to the command line (backgrounds the command).  But I think that will terminate when your connection terminates.09:03
sgroverI use screen for this type of thing.09:03
baskit doesn't even start. it gives x error09:04
baski did it wothout X09:04
sgroverapt-get install screen, then just run "screen", enter your command, then ctrl-a d, and log out...09:04
sgroverbask: what command you trying to run?09:04
storbeckHave you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source09:04
storbeckBah, already left.09:04
baski logged through ssh. i started ktorrent. but when i log out and then log in again ktorrent isn't running09:05
sgroverbask: no, it wouldn't be.09:05
sgroverlogging out ends the user initiated processes.09:05
sgroveruse screen09:06
baskyes but at home i'm logged. i hoped there would be a way to keep the process runing at home through the session started there09:06
* Signil is away: away09:06
sgroverssh in.  install and run screen.  Enter your command. do the "ctrl-a d" to disconnect the current screen session, then logout.09:07
storbeckUse screen at home, then login to the existing session when you're no there.09:07
sgroverwhen you log back in do "screen -r" to reconnect to your screen session.09:07
baskand how do i log to the existing session? :D09:07
phimichello all09:07
phimici got a problem with my /var partition09:07
sgroverYou can even have multiple screen sessions..09:07
sgroverBut that's a little more advanced, and will need some reading.. :)09:07
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phimici choose the size to small, it is a LVM partition and i would like resize it but i cannot umount it09:07
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen09:08
studenthi everybody09:08
sgroverk, I'm off night everyone.  Hope I helped some...09:08
studenti have lost my tolbars on Konquerer browser how do i get them bak09:08
storbeckstudent: Settings -> Toolbars09:09
studenti dont even have the menu bar09:10
storbeckctrl + m09:10
studenthow do i get the address bar09:11
studenti cant see it on the toolbars09:11
storbeckstudent: Just do this in bash09:12
storbeckrm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc09:12
studentits giving me permission denied09:14
studentis there no way od doing it using the gui09:14
storbecksudo it09:14
storbeckNote: That resets your konqueror settings back to default09:14
storbeckDid it work?09:17
studenti am having problesm with sudo09:17
studentrm -rf09:18
storbecksudo rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc09:18
storbeckType in your password when it asks, then you're done09:18
studentis there a way to do it with gui09:18
storbecklol, are you serious?09:19
studentnothing seems to work09:19
storbeckWhat error is it giving you?09:19
studentcommand not found09:19
studentlets start09:19
storbeckWhat command are you giving?09:19
storbeckJust copy and paste this:09:20
studentjust a minute09:20
storbecksudo rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc09:20
studentpermiison denied09:21
storbeckDid you type in your password?09:21
studentit did not ask me for the password09:21
studenthelp on this pliz09:23
storbeckI find it hard to believe you're getting permission denied if you're using sudo09:24
storbeckClose the terminal and start over09:24
intelikeywhere ?09:24
storbeckWhen you type sudo it should ask you for your password09:24
intelikeythere are some things that root has noting over nobody09:25
intelikeyso again      where ?09:25
studentit only gives me the options for comamnd09:25
jussi01student: are yopu on a school pc or soemthing?09:25
storbeckintelikey: He's trying to do sudo rm -rf09:25
studentmy personal computer09:25
studenthere is my problem:09:25
intelikeystorbeck simple cause   fs mounted ro09:25
storbeckstudent, copy/paste what you typed09:25
studentI have lost the address bar on konquerer09:26
storbeckSo you typed nothing, great09:26
studentstudent@student-desktop:~$ sudo09:26
storbeckThat's not what I told you to type.09:26
storbecksudo rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc09:26
studentthen what09:26
storbeckFor the 3rd time, copy/paste that09:26
studentthe sam thing again09:27
storbeckAgain? You never did it in the first place09:27
intelikeybut in #kubuntu the most common cause is pebcak09:27
studenti typed sudo rm -rf then pressed return09:27
storbeckstudent, I'm done helping you09:28
storbeckIf you don't know how to copy/paste you should be using Windows.09:28
studentthen after that the secon command ie ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc09:28
storbeckIt's all one command. Hence me saying COPY/PASTE what I typed.09:28
storbeckI didn't say break it apart onto more than one line.09:28
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korn788does anyone here use LINUXMCE09:29
studentstorbeck:i have done that but the browser has not changed09:30
jussi01!mint | korn78809:30
ubotukorn788: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate09:30
storbeckstudent: Did you close and re-open the browser?09:30
storbecksudo apt-get remove konqueror09:30
storbecksudo apt-get install konqueror09:30
pushaxhi all.   is anying running alpha 4 if hardy?09:31
intelikeykubuntu-desktop     cause konq will take some things with it09:31
jussi01storbeck: you would need to purge... ;)09:31
intelikeyjussi01 that too09:31
storbeckjussi01: I don't expect him to even copy/paste what I said before.09:31
storbeckSo I'm not even worried about it.09:31
studentu want me to reinstall09:32
studenti thot there was a better way09:32
studentassume somebody is not on the internet09:32
jussi01student: whats the actual issue, I missed it?09:32
studentthe command you gave me would install the browser09:33
storbeckjussi01: He hid his address bar and can't find the option to view it. And he fails to delete the config file which would set it back to defaults.09:33
storbeckSo my best advice would be to uninstall linux and install windows.09:33
studenti am ruunig both mind u09:34
jussi01storbeck: please be constructive, even if things are not going right :)09:34
intelikeystorbeck better advice might be 12lb sledge adjustment to the computer...09:34
jussi01student: its very easy to renable the address bar in konq09:34
studentjussi01:thats right09:34
storbeckjussi01: I'm being constructive.09:35
storbeckIf people can't understand how to use linux, they shouldn't be using it. The whole point of an OS is to use it.09:35
jussi01grr, Im on gnome at school, its just a right click add toolbar right?09:35
jussi01storbeck: people need to learn somewhere.09:35
studenti am on kde09:35
studenti am better than u think09:36
intelikeyjussi01 or konq menu view > main toolbar09:36
studentif u are gud in one part u are not gud in all09:36
jussi01student: did you see what intelikey just said?09:36
jussi01I need to run. behave :)09:37
studentthanks @intellikey09:37
storbeckCya, jessy_james09:37
studentthanks everybody09:38
studentincluding storbeck09:38
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intelikeystorbeck you ranked a special inclusion   ;/09:39
linuxboy97can someone help i can't mount any of my harddrives09:40
intelikeylinuxboy97 umm how you trying to do so ?09:40
intelikeyhow are09:40
linuxboy97just by clicking one of my harddrives and i get an error09:41
intelikeywhat the error says ?09:41
linuxboy97could not mount device09:42
linuxboy97the reported error was:09:42
linuxboy97mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:42
intelikeylinuxboy97 open a konsole (terminal emulator) and type in# fdisk -l /dev/sda     and pastebin the output for me please.09:44
intelikey!pastebin | linuxboy9709:44
ubotulinuxboy97: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:44
linuxboy97i get an error saying cannot open /dev/sda09:46
intelikeyprepend sudo.     sudo fdisk -l09:46
linuxboy97ok now what09:47
intelikey!pastebin | linuxboy9709:47
ubotulinuxboy97: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:47
intelikeyit displayed text didn't it ?09:48
linuxboy97only about the two hard drives i have09:48
* intelikey though that was what we were concerned with.....09:49
linuxboy97just to let you know if this helps im running live CD09:49
linuxboy97haven't got around to installing it yet09:50
* intelikey wonders ***why is this hour of the day always the time for when the "real wierd-O's", "total nubeez" "absolute morons" and "no will to engrish me, ok!" come to #kubuntu ???***09:54
intelikeyi think i'll go write a shell script that will play five card draw poker with me......09:54
AlferedHichcokhaving problems with setting up LDAP. there is no conf file in /usr/local/etc/openldap        and when i just edited  /etc/ldap/slapd.conf. . it says "no conf file found in there" when i typed $ /etc/init.d/slapd restart. any help?09:55
Sbucatone_Hello World,10:02
storbeckHello World offspring.10:06
storbeckDon't you love it when you're playing a multiplayer game and everybody accuses you of cheating? When really, they just suck. :D10:07
Sbucatone_storbeck: you are a cheater xD10:09
pushaxdo power users keep their home directories on other partitions or drives?10:09
Sbucatone_i have my home in another partition10:09
pushaxso when I format the partition in ext3 I mount it as /home  ??10:10
Sbucatone_storbeck: better players many time are only cheater xD yes yes10:10
Sbucatone_pushax:  yes i have done that on my computer when i have installed10:10
storbeckWell, to cheat on playstation 2 games you have to buy a codebreaker.10:11
oni_shadowyo !10:11
oni_shadowj'ai une question10:11
oni_shadowcomment faire10:11
storbeckI can't get the urge to walk into a store and say, "Yes, I'd like a codebreaker"10:11
pushaxok thanks.  ging to reinstall as this is a new era of linux for me and I've experimented too much witht he system files to be confident they are right.10:11
oni_shadowpour que kubuntu effectu autotmatiquement une commande au demarage10:11
oni_shadowgenre xrandr -s 1024x76810:12
Sbucatone_!fr | oni_shadow10:12
ubotuoni_shadow: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:12
oni_shadowI put a space bifore the "-"10:12
oni_shadowwell maybi you can help me, my english is not to bad10:14
oni_shadowhum not verry bad fore a child of 15 year in case10:16
oni_shadowhaw can i explain10:16
oni_shadowhow can you make that xrandr -s 1024x768 automaticly run at start up10:16
storbeckTurn it into a script and put it in there10:17
storbeckvi yourscript10:18
storbeckmv yourscript ~/.kde/Autostart/10:18
storbeckchmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/yourscript10:18
oni_shadowwell have just start using linux and I dont know how to do it10:18
storbeckOkay, 1 second10:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:19
pushaxwhat's a good size for root partion? swap partion? if I'm putting home on a separate partition from root?10:20
pushax300gb hd10:21
storbeckoni_shadow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57451/10:21
storbeckThat's a howto10:21
oni_shadowok thanks10:22
oni_shadowI'll try that10:22
AlferedHichcokhaving problems with OPENLDAP cong. where to add  BASE    dc=example,dc=com  ?10:28
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ali3n51what is the similiarity of kde 3 and kde 410:38
ali3n51i can login in diffirent betwen kde3 and kde 410:40
ali3n51there is something new about kde 410:40
el-gokuloboth uses qt as library? :P10:40
el-gokulokde 4 uses the newer qt library10:40
ali3n51oh really10:40
ali3n51why there 2 login10:40
ali3n51the kde 3 and kde 410:41
storbeckBecause you didn't uninstall kde310:41
ali3n51how to uninstall kde 310:41
el-gokuloi wouldnt recommend it10:41
storbecksudo apt-get remove kde10:42
ali3n51there something happen if i uninstall kde 310:42
storbecksudo apt-get autoremove10:42
storbecksudo apt-get update10:42
el-gokulokde 4 is far from being ready for use. in my opinion10:42
ali3n51what i supposed to used10:42
Lynoureali3n51: no support from this channel anymore, for example. and I bet upgrade is not officially supported from kde4-only gutsy10:42
ali3n51for now i am using kde10:42
el-gokulomany features from kde 3.5.x are not already working in kde 410:43
ali3n51oh really10:43
storbeck4 is still in baby stages.10:43
ali3n51so what the best to used kde 3 or kde 410:43
el-gokuloits just the first step to a new kde experience10:43
el-gokuloright now its better to stay with kde 310:43
storbeckkde4 reminds me too much of vista.10:43
el-gokulowait for kde 4.1 to try it out again. but its unknown when it will be released10:44
ali3n51what i'm going to do10:44
Lynourestorbeck: the looks are greatly changable. :) and what's under the hood is nothing like Vista10:45
storbeckI know.10:45
storbeckBut the default look does.10:45
ali3n51u mean kde 4.0 is release accidentally like vista10:45
el-gokuloyou can keep both versions installed it wont hurt you10:45
storbeckLynoure: In perspective though, I think KDE and Gnome are both too much like Windows. :P10:46
ali3n51if u can't choice  where to login you can't open the kde10:46
AlferedHichcoki cant understand. where to put        BASE    dc=example,dc=com          and what does the comands  in 'Populating The LDAP Tree' heading in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer        means........ can any one help?10:47
ali3n51wait i change it to kde 4 to discover something10:47
Lynourestorbeck: that just baffles me :)10:47
el-gokulotry kde 3 for some days out. then kde 4. and you should notice the differences10:47
ali3n51have read the bible10:48
storbeckLynoure: I think it's the whole idea of "have a gui for everything"10:48
Lynourestorbeck: to me too much windows would be forcing to do things through the gui... mostly I don't have to, unless I want to10:49
GSF1200Show would I make the 'edit as root' option in konquerors right click menu open Kate instead of Kwrite?10:49
storbeckHm, you have a point. :D10:50
el-gokuloGSF1200S, settings -> configure konqueror -> file association10:51
GSF1200Shmm.. i looked there- guess I need to figure out which option changes the root editor. text files already open up in kate by default, just not when I use the edit as root option10:52
happy( so professional it spams by default)10:52
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ali3n51knowleged shall increased according to the book of daniel...10:54
thomaspostdoes anybody know if the manual gateway setting is repaired10:55
happyWhat program does everyone prefer for partitioning ?10:55
thomaspostgnome gtk gui partition manager10:56
storbeckthomaspost: That works in KDE?10:58
SlimeyPeteparted seems to be the favourite10:59
SlimeyPetebut make sure you back up your data first (some bloke didn't do so yesterday and then had a go at me because parted broke ;) )10:59
SlimeyPetethough I didn't even tell him to use it...11:00
SlimeyPete(some people are odd)11:00
thomaspostgparted will work in both enviroment so long as you have the dependancy11:00
SlimeyPetethere's qtparted too, for KDE.11:00
thomaspostqtparted is for kde11:00
happythat they are, I'm just looking for a partitioner that will show me all current partitions with the ability to mod,add and delete partitions, preferably command line11:01
storbeckw00t. Finally got rid of firefox.11:01
thomaspostI normally work off puppy linux to partition11:01
happyWhys that storbeck ?11:02
Myrth[home]hi, in which file should i put "export MY_ENV_VAR=..." so kde will be aware of it? .bashrc affects console shell only...11:02
ere4sitry fdisk happy or cfdisk11:02
storbeckhappy, because it's slow11:02
happypage render times ?11:04
storbeckJust everything, even opening the browser.11:04
storbeckI'm going with swiftfox. I can feel a noticable difference.11:04
ere4sibeen using swiftfox for a year - it's quicker11:04
storbeckI'm trying to get apps that use less resources11:05
happyI never found swiftfox to be faster, infact i thought it was the opposite.... I wonder where I went wrong ?11:06
GSF1200SOk, does anyone know the .rc file that controls the config for the right click menu in konqueror?11:07
ali3n51welcome back11:07
ali3n51i explore kde411:08
ali3n51there something new in kde 411:08
emilsedgh!kde4 | ali3n5111:09
ubotuali3n51: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde411:09
emilsedghali3n51: btw, its not ready as a daily DE11:09
ali3n51how to change the bootscreen in kubuntu linux11:09
happyare there any major problems with swiftfox? I'm thinking of switching right now11:10
storbeckI haven't heard of any11:11
ere4siit's just an optimised firefox11:11
happyso updating and plugins all work the same ?11:11
ere4siplugins do11:12
happyand updating is just done through apt ?11:12
ere4sino - it's installed with a script11:13
ere4sifrom their site11:13
ali3n51how to change the boot screen11:14
ere4si!usplash | ali3n5111:15
ubotuali3n51: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork11:15
GSF1200Sanyone else know of a way to make kate launch when I use the 'edit as root' option?11:15
ali3n51you mean you want to add in apt11:15
happyno , i just wanted to know what happens when a new firefox version comes out, how do you go about updating swiftfox ?11:17
ere4siswiftfox is always one version behind firefox - takes time to optimise it11:17
ere4siand mozilla doesn't offer swiftfox11:18
happyyep i gathered that11:19
ere4sihttp://getswiftfox.com/ happy11:19
happyyeah I'm just reading that now, thanks though11:19
happyso the bad for swiftfox is it's proprietary, not all plugins are fully compatible and it's always one version behind ?11:22
storbeckThe newest version of firefox isn't always the best one.11:22
ere4sihaven't found a plugin that doesn't work11:23
happydo you know what kind of performance increase you get ?11:24
gundam_rx78nt1storbeck: are you still there?11:25
gundam_rx78nt1I fixed it.11:25
ere4sihappy: it's only a second or two mostly11:25
gundam_rx78nt1Installed the new kernel 2.6.24-8-generic11:25
storbeckNice :D11:25
storbeckDid you apt-get install it?11:25
gundam_rx78nt1I like to thank you and stoffer for the help.11:26
gundam_rx78nt1no, I did a script on the forum11:26
ere4sidillo is way quicker but hasn't been developed for ages11:26
gundam_rx78nt1it worked wonderfully.11:26
gundam_rx78nt1now I am listening to my music.11:26
storbeckYou're welcome11:27
gundam_rx78nt1well, let me get back to work.  duties call.11:27
storbeckHave fun11:27
gundam_rx78nt1see you guys next week.  I am off for the next few days.11:27
gundam_rx78nt1Going to Vail for some skiing.11:28
storbeckHaha, those are some nice "work duties"11:29
happydoes anyone know of a program similar to nodebox or processing, except using python running under linux ?11:31
ere4sihappy: this says it's for ubuntu 7.10 - http://dev.nodebox.net/wiki/Qt11:34
storbeckVery nice!11:37
happyGreat, thanks for that11:38
storbeckNodebox looks neat.11:39
happybesides mac only11:40
AlferedHichcoksudo slapadd -l init.ldif          bdb_db_open: only one suffix allowed          backend_startup_one: bi_db_open failed! (-1)           slap_startup failed11:41
happyI really just want to start off "drawing" with some python code, then make it more complex once i get my head around that, do you think something like nodebox would be the way to go or would there be a library for python that supports that ?11:43
happyi was thinking maybe pygame ?11:43
happysorry for being a bit off topic also11:44
storbeckYou could use pygtk and cairo11:44
happy0.0 wow thanks for that11:48
storbeckThe FAQ explains how to use the snippets in actual code and how to compile it.11:50
Oscar_Acosta_how do I disable this icon zooming effect when launching a certain application shortcut from the panel?11:52
bittyxCan anyone offer me a little help, please?11:59
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)11:59
bittyxSorry :) OK, I've just installed kubuntu, everything in order, until I tried to set my resolution - I have a widescreen monitor. I've just set it to LCD 1680x1050, the Generic option, since I couldn't find my particular monitor anywhere on the list.12:00
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:01
bittyxWhen I restarted, the picture was all mangled, and I can't see anything on my desktop now. It's as if ..12:01
bittyxOK, thanks :)12:01
tekteenbittyx: if you can not see the desktop. you may also want to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a terminal12:02
tekteenyou can get to a terminal by typing ctrl+alt+F212:03
tekteenthen back to the main desktop with alt+F712:03
bittyxYup, I just read that part at the linked page, I'm gonna try that now. Thanks again for helping. Bye!12:07
storbeckDepressing quit message.12:07
Lynourestorbeck: Luckily mostly untrue for this channel12:08
storbeckAnybody know of a slightly nicer looking battery monitor, as opposed to wmacpi?12:09
storbeckNevermind, found one12:17
ActionParsniplo all12:17
* tekteen is asleep12:18
storbeckHeh, figures. Whenever I search for something I don't find anything until I ask a question in here. Then I find what I'm looking for immediately.12:20
storbeckI should just join #sdifoaosdfis12:21
ActionParsnipstorbeck, try wording your searches different12:21
storbeckI usually find what I'm looking for.12:22
storbeckI just have to wade through all the garbage results to find a good one. :)12:22
anr1363hello Everyone12:28
anr1363Please Help me12:28
anr1363i need Help12:28
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)12:29
ActionParsnipjust ask, anr136312:29
anr1363pici can i to send provate message12:29
Picianr1363: Ask the channel12:30
anr1363in the terminal type Sh12:30
ActionParsnipanr1363, if you ask in here your question hits more people so there is more chance of a result12:30
anr1363sh /sbi/chkconfig :permission denied12:30
storbecksudo sh /sbi/chkconfig12:30
ActionParsnipanr1363, tried sudo?12:30
anr1363my problem this line12:30
anr1363plz help me12:30
anr1363i have install IBSng12:31
anr1363in the last command have this error12:31
ActionParsnipanr1363, type sudo infront of the command12:31
anr1363how to remove permission /sbin folder12:31
anr1363Sh command is workd12:32
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anr1363i dont tyoe this commnad program when install have this error12:32
anr1363i have type sudo : command nor found12:33
ActionParsnipanr1363, sudo sh /sbi/chkconfig12:34
anr1363i test12:34
el-gokuloit wont work probably :)12:34
* ActionParsnip hates spoonfeeding12:34
el-gokulosudo sh /sbin/chkconfig12:34
el-gokulothe n was probably missing12:34
ActionParsnipel-gokulo, yep but i'm hoping he works that out12:35
anr1363sudo sh /sbin/chkconfig no problem in the terminal12:35
anr1363in the setup program have error12:35
* ActionParsnip cheers12:36
anr1363sh: /sbin/chkconfig : permission denied  have this line12:36
anr1363IBSng <~~~~~~12:37
storbeckTry: sudo chkconfig12:37
ActionParsnipanr1363, http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-services-chkconfig.html12:37
anr1363i have ubuntu 7.10 server12:38
storbeckanr1363: Did that work?12:38
anr1363sudo chkconfig dos't world12:39
storbeckWhat's the error?12:39
* Dr_willis cant rember ever using chkconfig12:40
anr1363sudo chkconfig command error12:41
storbeckWhat is the error?12:41
anr1363bash command not foeund12:42
storbeckand sudo sh /sbin/chkconfig gives you permission denied?12:42
storbeckAre you sure you typed in the password right?12:42
anr1363in the terminal dont have error12:42
anr1363in the IBSng program installer have error12:43
storbeckTo be honest, I have no idea what you're saying. Sorry12:43
anr1363this line sh: /sbin/chkcinfig :permission denied12:43
adredhi how to remove KDE groupware wizard?12:46
storbeckadred: What is the package name?12:47
adredi dont know why im asking i dont how to remove it by using konsole. usually i just remove apps by their name but KDE group wizard has broken long name...12:49
adredi dont know thats why im asking bcoz i dont how to remove it by using konsole. usually i just remove apps by their name but KDE group wizard has broken long name...12:49
Dr_willisit may not be a specific ap. it may be part of a larget package12:49
adredu mean it is a group of apps?12:49
Dr_willisNo idea. I cant recall ever using any groupware stuff.  I doubt if its a single package all by itself.12:50
Dr_willisYou could use the package manager tool and search for the filename and see what package its found in.12:51
storbeckTry, sudo apt-get remove egroupware12:51
adredim on it12:51
adredegroupware it not installed12:52
storbeckdo dpkg -l > output12:54
storbeckthen look through there until something looks like it12:54
adredegroupware is not installed12:58
adredi tried searching it in adept,,,not luck12:58
storbeckYes, I saw you say that.12:58
JuJuBeeGreetings...  I have a shell script I wish to run as a cron job.  I can run it from CLI, but for some reason it does not execute via crontab... Any help?12:58
storbeckJuJuBee: http://www.adminschoice.com/docs/crontab.htm12:59
Dr_willisJuJuBee,  give the full path to the script12:59
Dr_willisand you are wanting the script ran as root?12:59
JuJuBeeMy crontab entry is 0 2 * * 1,2,3,4,5 /usr/local/myCrons/dothis.sh13:00
storbeckDid you chmod it?13:00
bittyxHi, it's me again. I've managed to restore my screen resolution rather easily, but, again, it's 1280x1024, instead of the wide 1680x1050 it's supposed to be. I've tried the autodetect script, and editing the xorg.conf. Neither works. I don't think other solutions apply to me. Could my video card cause such a problem?13:00
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Dr_willisIts possible its the moniotr not reporting that it can do that res.13:01
storbeckJuJuBee: chmod +x /usr/local/myCrons/dothis.sh13:01
Dr_willisI recall using a xmodeline generator web site ages ago for my widescreen laptop. But i havent had to mess with that in ages.13:01
omeowHi there.13:01
JuJuBeeAlready +x13:02
JuJuBeeI have 2 that I need run as cron, one runs fine the other does not.13:02
bittyxWell, actually, when I run the autodetect, there's the part where it displays the possible resolutions, with some already selected. The 1680x1050 is selected already. When I go to System Settings -> Monitor & Display, the largest possible resolution is 1280x1024, whereas the Refresh rate is 76 Hz (I cannot change it), instead of 60 Hz, which my monitor would support.13:02
jussi01bittyx: try this, under the "Monitor" section add a bit tht says         Option "Preferred Mode" "1680x1050_60.00"13:03
jussi01but with your preferred mode13:03
jussi01leave off the _60.0013:03
storbeckShouldn't it be 1-5 instead of 1,2,3,4,5?13:04
omeowAdept just installed a list of updates and now I can no longer type a double quote. If I try it, then a / appears instead. What happened?13:04
JuJuBeestorebeck, according to the docs, it is comman separated list13:04
Dr_willisI thouight 1-5 was the same as 1,2,3,4,513:05
jussi01omeow: sound like your keyboard variant got changed13:05
ubotuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts13:05
Dr_willisbut i rarely use cron. :)13:05
omeowjussi01: It's still set to US int which is what it was set to before.13:05
jussi01omeow: not sure then :(13:06
storbeckYour crontab entry seems valid13:06
storbeckI don't see why it's not working13:06
bittyxjussi01: Nope, tried the preferred mode, with and without _60.00. Still the same. Any other ideas? I'm really new to Linux so I have no idea how things go with drivers and such - perhaps there is a problem with those?13:07
adredhi, i think its the KDE server configuration wizards. package name, kdepim-wizards. il try removing it13:07
JuJuBeeMe either.  I have several crons running.  All files have same file perms, just this one not working.13:07
storbeckDoes crontab -l display it right?13:07
JuJuBeeappears to13:07
jussi01!fixres | bittyx have you tried the instructions here?13:07
ubotubittyx have you tried the instructions here?: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto13:07
jussi01bittyx: and just checking, you did restartx after making the change?13:08
storbeckHow long have you ad it running?13:08
bittyxYup. The options that would apply to me don't change anything.13:08
bittyxWell, does CTRL+ALT+BKSP do the same?13:08
bittyxIf yes, then I've done that.13:09
JuJuBeeI have been using it since Sept.  It was running at 8am at first, but then I changed the time to 7am and now it doesn't work.  So I tried 2am instead and same, not working.13:09
adredi have removed it thanks..:)13:09
jussi01bittyx: should yes. but its generally better to log out and ctrl+e ;)13:09
JuJuBeeAh ? you see something?13:10
storbeckHeh, so it only works at 8AM?13:10
bittyxjussi01: Ah, what does ctrl+e do?13:10
JuJuBeeWell, I did not try setting it back to 8, I want it run earlier if possible.13:10
bittyxjussi01: Nevermind, I'm just gonna try it. Is there any other place where I could find ideas as to what the problem is?13:11
jussi01bittyx: restarts x if you are at the login screen :)13:11
storbeckI don't know. I'm stumped13:11
adredHi, how do I remove the files from ~/.thumbnails through the konsole?13:11
JuJuBeeI will try 8am again and see what happens13:11
jussi01bittyx: the link the bot gave you would be a good place to start13:11
JuJuBeeCan't believe it will make a diff.13:11
storbeckadred: rm -rf ~/.thumbnails/*13:11
jussi01bittyx: also, what kind of gfx card you have?13:11
JuJuBeeWhere does cron log errors?13:11
bittyxjussi01: Perhaps there is a problem with the video card? The autodetect script sets vesa as the default driver.13:12
jussi01bittyx: which card is it?13:12
bittyxjussi01: I've already been to that link, it doesn't help. As to the video card, it's an Asus EAH2400PRO. It's a rather cheap card, but it works fine with WinXP, so I suppose it should work here, too.13:13
JuJuBeeI don't have a /var/log/cron13:13
jussi01bittyx: can you pastebin your xorg.conf for me?13:13
jussi01!paste > bittyx13:13
bittyxjussi01: OK, just a sec.13:14
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adredstorbeck: thanks :)13:15
bittyxjussi01: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57458/13:16
jussi01!ati | bittyx please follow these instructions13:16
ubotubittyx please follow these instructions: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:16
storbeckJuJuBee: /var/log/syslog13:16
jussi01bittyx: it is an ati 2400, which need the fglrx driver13:17
storbeckYou could, sudo grep CRON /var/log/syslog13:18
JuJuBeeYea, I found it, it looks like it ran, but did not as far as I can see.13:19
storbeckMaybe the script is messed up?13:19
JuJuBeeFeb 26 02:00:01 CiscoServer /USR/SBIN/CRON[4063]: (aitadmin) CMD (/usr/local/myCrons/dothis.sh)13:19
JuJuBeeNo, the script runs as expected if I run from cli13:19
adredHi, does the "frostwire connect issue" has a defined solution? I've searched through buntu forums but I couldn't find one...13:20
storbeckIs it running as root?13:20
JuJuBeeYes, using sudo in the script13:20
JuJuBeesudo /usr/local/myCrons/dothis.sh13:20
Sbucatone_hello who knows what is fuoco tools ?13:20
storbeckDoes it ask you for the password when using it in CLI?13:20
JuJuBeeI added me to sudo group13:21
storbeckWeird, I don't know13:21
storbeckI don't understand why if it was set at 8, and all you did was change times, it magically stopped working13:21
JuJuBeeMe either.  The email I get says it completed, but when I check, nothing happened.13:22
JuJuBeeDoes the order of the list in crontab make a diff?13:23
storbeckNot that I know of13:23
JuJuBeedidn't think so, but worth a try...13:23
jussi01bittyx: how are things going?13:24
bittyxjussi01: I'm installing the restricted modules :)13:26
jussi01great :)13:26
bittyxjussi01: (Not so fast internet connection)13:26
ere4siSbucatone_, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Fuoco+Tools?content=73886 - will tell you13:26
jussi01bittyx: do let us know how it works for you :)13:26
bittyxjussi01: Of course, I sure hope it helps. :)13:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about geggo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:29
bittyxjussi01: If it doesn't I will probably consider buying a better video card - I've found that this one causes trouble even in WinXP from time to time. As I do not plan on playing games at all/doing anything heavier than Photoshop, do you have any suggestions as to which I should get? Preferably something that's guaranteed to work with kubuntu :)13:30
jussi017950 is nice and I know it works out of the box with kubuntu13:33
adredwhy is it that whenever i try to install xmms on my box,  its icon won't appear on my menu?13:34
Dr_willissime times kde dosent see menu changes.13:35
Dr_willisxmms is a bit old and out of date in many ways. You may want to start trying other media players13:36
adredi mean xmms2. is it old?13:36
Dr_willisxmms2 - was way -- flakey/weird last i tried it.  i havent tried it again in ages.13:36
Dr_willisi stick with 'bmpx' these days13:36
adredok. is audacious good?13:37
Dr_willisIf it does what you need. :)13:37
Dr_willistry it and see13:37
Dr_willisamarok is also nice13:37
* jussi01 likes the stock amarok :)13:37
adredi see. thank you :)13:38
storbeckI like audacious.13:39
storbeckxmms uses less cpu/memory though.13:39
Dr_willismpg123 *.mp313:40
adredweird, im scanning now. clamav has detected 29 viruses already and it's half way...13:40
dasnipa29 viruses? you be screwed13:40
storbeckYou have 29 viruses on linux?13:41
adredyeah, it's crystal clear13:41
adredi think it's on my windoze partition13:41
adredis it?13:41
storbeckHeh, Windows IS the virus.13:41
Dr_willisclamv - scans windows systems for window viruses - correct. :)13:42
Dr_willisNot sure what it does if anything for linux systems13:42
jussi01Dr_willis: it scans linux systems for windows viruses also... (ie. in email)13:42
adredso will clamav delete them?13:42
adredwhat if those files are crucial to my windoze system?:(13:43
Dr_willisadred,  good question.. it depends on if it found the virus 'installed' or Just IN a file..13:43
Dr_willisthere may be 29 warez apps with ciruses in them. that you havent ran..13:43
Dr_willisOR there may be a bunch all over the system/windows dir and other places..13:44
teo- i have broadcom 4311 card.. and i dont have linux driver i am using windows driver with ndiswrapper can i put the card in monitor mode??13:45
adredbut they wont any harm to my box right?13:45
adredi mean kubuntu box13:45
Dr_willissince they are not getting 'ran' - No.13:46
Dr_willisunless you are using wine. and running the binaries that are infected13:46
adredDr_willis: have you experienced this? Should I delete those viruses? im going crazy, clamav detects 52 viruses already. but my Kaspersky doesn't even notice it..13:50
Dr_willisdepends on what its finding.. and if they are false positives13:50
Dr_willisand where they are at.13:50
jussi01bittyx: so, how did things go?13:50
bittyxjussi01: Nyah, nothing. I guess I'll just give up. :(13:50
Dr_willisat the  LEAST i would run a few other virus checker tools13:50
jussi01bittyx: dont give up yet, can I see your xorg.conf now?13:50
Dr_willis52 false positives - i would say would be rare. :)13:51
bittyxjussi01: I've reverted it to the same one I've pasted for you - I couldn't even startx with the modified one13:51
adredlol..so i guess i should scan through the list...13:51
jussi01bittyx: that is weird13:52
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dverzollahas anyone using kde4 from launchpad?13:53
bittyxjussi01: I can guess why it didn't work - everything went fine until I had to type "sudo aticonfig --initial"13:53
dverzollaI'm getting troubles with screensaver... how solve this?13:54
bittyxjussi01: That displays a lot of stuff, and in the end, "Aborted (core dumped)"13:54
bittyxjussi01: The next command also says "Warning: Could not find configuration file"13:54
bittyxjussi01: Now, in the manual you linked me to, there's a comment that aticonfig doesn't seem to work for Gutsy Gibbons, which is what I'm using, and that is from the Feisty part of the manual.13:55
bittyxjussi01: But the instructions for Gibbons just point to Feisty.13:55
adredDr_willis: I was wrong, around 90 percent of 52 are just errors.lol. clamav couldn't access to root files of my box thus the error reports :)13:56
bittyxjussi01: Oh, btw, the "lspci -nn | grep VGA" command, which should report the graphics controller; I get this when i type it: "02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device [1002:94c3]"13:59
csandovalhey du bisch da?14:00
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csandovalgits au fütz da?14:01
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igvozdevangst vo k414:01
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat14:01
csandovalKreis 4 Panik Revier14:02
igvozdevohhhh its english u know14:02
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igvozdevswiss soldiers xD14:02
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csandovalwas root14:03
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lod__airhi, i've just upgraded gutsy to hardy alfa 5, i'm with ati and X is so slow14:06
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu14:06
progeis this the official "noobs ask here" channel or would u like to point me somewhere else?14:09
jussi01proge: this is it :)14:09
Lynourethis is it14:09
progei just installed kubuntu and i'm trying to use adept manager to get packages for Nvidia drivers14:10
progebut it gives me "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude)." when i try to start adept manager14:10
progechecked processes and there's nothing that would hint towards adept, apt-get or aptitude :P14:11
jussi01!adeptfix | proge14:11
ubotuproge: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:11
progek, thanks14:11
bladerunnerqualcuno da cagliari?14:32
linuxboy97can anyone help me please14:32
jussi01!ask | linuxboy9714:33
ubotulinuxboy97: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)14:33
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linuxboy97when running konqueror when in live cxd mode is it sopost to me really slow14:34
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jussi01linuxboy97: the livecd can be really slow14:35
jussi01linuxboy97: its quite fast here installed14:36
linuxboy97just wondering because it feels like dial-up14:37
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras14:38
cafka bzip2 -dc patch- | patch -p1 -s   i have used this command to patch the kernel.. but a setup is displayed to choose what files to be patched is there a command to patch all files??14:38
jussi01linuxboy97: yeah, it mightr be also some other things, like ipv6 but most likely the live cd14:38
linuxboy97yea that what i thought too14:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pv6 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:39
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv414:39
cafkahow can i install new kernel?14:59
llutzcafka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065&highlight=kernel+compilation15:01
nosrednaekimtoo late15:02
ubotuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages15:02
adredIs there a linux version of Super Texttwist? :)15:04
nosrednaekimwhat does that do?15:05
adredSuper Texttwist is a game :)15:06
nosrednaekimoh... there might be...if tis a simple game (like a card game) chances are there is15:07
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bullgard4I'm using prdominantly Gnome and Kexi all days. Can kstart accomplish that Kexi will start always on the third workspace after boot-up?15:12
bullgard4Hi Czessi !15:13
nosrednaekimbullgard4: no... that would be a window manager function...15:13
CzessiHi bullgard415:13
adredhow do i install wine? what are the requirements?15:13
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.15:13
mrunagisup nosrednaekim15:13
bullgard4nosrednaekim: Thank you for informing.15:13
progeCtrl+Alt+F1, then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" and i should end up in shell with kdm off right?15:15
mrunagiproge doing it in a terminal should too15:15
nosrednaekimproge: yes15:15
nosrednaekimproge: you can also select "console session" in kdm15:15
progei'm installing nvidia drivers and the HOW To tells me to shut down kdm15:16
progebut i end up with just a black screen after that :S15:16
mrunagithen switch to a virtual terminal15:16
* jussi01 wonders if proge has tried/thought about the restricted manger drivers yet15:17
mrunagiwhy not15:17
nosrednaekimproge: try "ctrl+alt+f2"15:17
progecause i'm a noob and i dont know what those are tbh :)15:17
mrunagitry restricted drivers before trying ctrl alt f215:17
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mrunagik menu > settings > advanced > restricted drivers15:18
progewell that's sure easier, heh, thank you15:19
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omeowAdept just installed a list of updates and now I can no longer type a double quote. If I try it, then a / appears instead. What happened? My keyboard layout did not change. It's still set to what it was. US int.15:23
linuxboy97is there anyway of upgrading from 6.06 lts to 7.1015:24
BluesKajwow, kubuntu is seriously borked on my setup ..2 clean installs and still no login page, it's just not coming up.15:27
mrunagiit angers me BluesKaj are you canadian?15:28
mrunagiwow i totally mixed two sentences15:29
BluesKajI wonder how many others have suffered the same fate from those upgrade and updates that are obviously seriously flawed for some systems15:29
mrunagiBluesKaj: just remove the language packages15:29
BluesKajI did15:29
mrunagii was gonna say it angers me when my upload speed on a torrent is 100kbs and my download is 25kbs15:30
mrunagibut thats offtopic im sure15:30
BluesKajnot even a tty prompt15:30
BluesKajtty prompt won't evn come up15:30
mrunagiwhat about when you ctrl alt f1 or f215:31
BluesKajyes I'm canadian mrunagi , why do you ask ?15:31
mrunagibecause its the canadian packages doing the damage15:31
BluesKajmrunagi , that's exactly what I'm doing...as if the KB doesn't exist15:31
mrunagifor once im glad im not canadian15:32
mrunagisounds like a serious problem15:32
BluesKajhow can that be , the packages are the same , just in different locations except for time and palce15:33
mrunagii dunno what to tell you man15:34
mrunagiremove the en-can packages and it should be fixed15:34
Arwenw00t, xrandr is awesome15:35
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linuxboy97its dead15:52
mrunagiyou killed them!15:52
mrunagia watched torrent never downloads15:53
mrunagiim so clever15:53
king_Hello all, I'm having trouble with my adept (database is locked) it's a fresh install and the Fixing solution offered by adept doesnt work too15:54
pag!aptfix | king_15:57
ubotuking_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:57
king_pag, Tnx m815:59
pagnp :)16:00
mrunagii cant figure out why kopete can display my webcam, cat /dev/video0 accurately checks the cam...........but vlc cant display nor record my cam data16:00
BluesKajok, now mrunagi, is it official that the Canadian repos/updates that are to blame for the broken kubuntus ?16:00
mrunagithats the word around the monitor glow16:00
BluesKajI see mrunagi so I I choose my location as US city in the same time zone as me , then I'm safe ?  :-)16:02
mrunagii think more or less you need to manually remove the language packs16:02
mrunagibut you could try that too16:02
pietje_phuckOr choose an European location and change the time zone?16:02
Eduardiyohi room16:03
mrunagiHI Eduardiyo16:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about welcom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:03
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!16:03
Eduardiyoany meets a dvd-creator for linux please?16:03
mrunagi!dvd | Eduardiyo16:03
ubotuEduardiyo: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs16:03
BluesKajmrunagi , you guys don't seem to understand , there's no acces to tty , or login or any way of removing the language packs , which i din't upgrade anyway , BTW16:03
Eduardiyono, to create a dvd getting a divx movie16:04
mrunagii dunno how to help you then BluesKaj16:04
mrunagiEduardiyo: what language is your native16:04
Eduardiyomrunagi: nothing bye, im spanish16:04
mrunagidid i offend him?16:04
BluesKajright, so I'm gonna do a clean install using a US location .16:05
pietje_phuckEduardiyo: try "tovid" bit clumsy if you are used to guiis, but it works for me16:05
mrunagihe left =/16:05
pietje_phuckI am toooooo slow16:05
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mrunagii think i offended him but im not sure how16:05
Arwenzzz... ah well, they should all learn English...16:06
pietje_phuckWhy should we not all learn Spanish?16:06
Arwenbecause it's a silly language with silly declensions/inflections/genders16:07
BluesKajtovid rocks if you have the right dependencies , go to #tovid to get the page16:07
Arwenzzz... avisynth...16:07
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neosakiAdmiral_Chicago, look at the crystalized water falling from the upper atmosphere!16:09
ieroglifвсем привет16:14
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:14
mrunagiArwen: english has genders too theyre just implied =)16:16
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Arwenoh god firefox 3 sucks...16:20
PolitikerALTfor me it works perfectly16:21
Arwen...zooming out on an image turns it into a black square...16:21
leitzwhere do i define samba workgroup using KDE on kubuntu 6.02 LTS?16:22
BluesKajdapper ?16:23
leitzwith KDE16:23
jpatrick!enter | leitz16:23
ubotuleitz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:23
leitzI change my smb.conf putting workgroup=MYWORKGROUP and it keeps changing to some default WORKGROUP16:24
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leitzany help?16:25
leitzand sorry for the ponctuation thing16:25
BluesKajleitz:  that's prolly cuz your windows pc is named Workgroup and thet's waht samba sees on the network16:26
leitzno it isnt16:26
BluesKajhow are you connecting to your home network, with konq ?16:27
leitzall the network is ubuntu, except one wich is gOS16:27
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mrunagiktorrent doesnt accurately calculate time remaining and its annoying =(16:28
leitzthe rest of the network is Gnome and I have no trouble there16:28
leitzI just cant change the configuration properly on 1 computer16:29
BluesKajdoes the connection work ?16:29
leitzyes it works16:29
BluesKajso why worry ?16:29
leitzthe problem is not the connection i just dont want to have 2 workgroups16:30
BluesKajuse the default one16:30
leitzspecially on linux machines16:30
leitzI dont want to use the default16:31
leitzI just want to know how to change samba workgroup configuration on KDE dapper16:31
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.16:31
leitzI already have samba working16:32
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llutzleitz: restarted samba after change?16:32
leitzand the problem is not (G)ubuntu16:32
BluesKajmaybe there's some useful info there16:32
ArwenFirefox 3 can't display images wtf16:33
BluesKajArwen: java16:34
BluesKajFF3 is a PITA anyway16:34
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BluesKajbleeding edge is exactly that if you like to bleed , use it :)16:35
leitzllutz yes i did restarted it16:35
Daisuke_Laptopit's not the worst browser ever16:36
ArwenBluesKaj, I would hope that at beta 3 they'd have fixed something as obvious as that...16:36
Arwenhttp://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3722/screen1sl2.png <-- I mean, this just reeks of b0rk16:36
Daisuke_Laptoprollback the ui changes and keep the major fixes they did, and i would be thrilled16:36
ArwenIT IS BROKEN16:37
Daisuke_Laptopyeah, i would say that's broken16:37
Daisuke_Laptopthough i haven't seen any images personally that it wouldn't display.  is that just for local images?16:37
Arwennah, all images16:38
Arwenbut only when resized to fit the screen16:38
Daisuke_Laptopi'm not able to reproduce that :\16:39
Arwenwell, time to try cleaning out my profile...16:39
Arwennope, still b0rk3d with a clean profile16:41
Daisuke_Laptopmy biggest peeve with ff3 is live bookmarks not automatically updating16:43
Arwenmine is the address bar being screwed up...16:44
Arwenand GTK-QT being broken16:44
Arwenand the fonts not being anti-aliased right16:44
* genii sticks with hif
geniibleh typos16:45
Arwenthey rolled it out in Hardy.... argh...16:45
* genii pries his eyes open to look for coffee16:45
Arwenand whoever the maintainer is is so incompetent that they forgot to package the dev headers...16:45
lovrehi all16:45
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lovrewhen i add new panel (kicker->add new panel), how do i change it height? i can change only kicker's height, but not my custom panel's?16:46
nosrednaekimlovre: you need to log out, log back in, and then you can select which panel to edit the config of.... or just run "dcop kicker kicker restart"16:47
lovrenosrednaekim: ill try16:48
BluesKajBBIAB , gonna reboot to see if this location change and new install will hold .16:48
Daisuke_Laptopfair rant16:48
Daisuke_Laptopi'm sure ff2 will still be available16:49
Daisuke_Laptopand i agree about the address bad16:49
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yao_ziyuanin ubuntu i can see all the 3d window effects17:01
yao_ziyuanwhat about kubuntu?17:01
yao_ziyuani can't find anything about 3d desktop effects in kubuntu's menu17:02
GSF1200Stry compiz --replace in a terminal17:02
flipstaryou have to install compit for that17:02
GSF1200Syeah, you have to have compiz-kde installed for that too17:02
GSF1200Sopen up the adept installer and install compiz-kde as well as any plugins you want, and activate it by typing: compiz --replace in a terminal17:03
yao_ziyuanflipstar: compiz is already installed17:03
yao_ziyuanit just doesn't automatically take effect for kde17:03
flipstarno, kwin is the standart window manager for kde17:04
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ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:04
Daisuke_Laptopthere, no more misinformation.17:05
flipstaryao_ziyuan: you might follow this guide to have compiz as default window manager.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51138917:07
JoTrockenhi - is there any step-by-step manual how to get compiz working with kubuntu-gutsy?17:09
yao_ziyuani'd just use gnome instead17:09
JoTrockenwell...I dont want to use gnome17:10
andysigh am getting fed up with kubuntu it might be me being thick but it just doesnt seem to work properly17:10
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Lynoureandy: what kind of "not working properly" are you experiencing?17:11
nosrednaekimandy: whats wrong?17:12
andyi just uninstalled wine and deleted it from my K menu reinstalled wine and it hasn't installed icons on k menu17:12
andywhy wouldn't it install icons?17:13
nosrednaekimandy: you may have to restart KDE17:15
andyok brb17:15
Daisuke_Laptopseems he has ctrl-alt-backspace down :)17:15
Daisuke_Laptopwelcome back17:15
andynope still no there17:15
Daisuke_Laptopcheck lost & found or Other (don't remember which would have it)17:16
LynoureOn my system Wine icons went unintuitively into a category of their own, so I only noticed them when I was about to give up hope on finding them :)17:17
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: lol17:17
Daisuke_LaptopLynoure: it actually makes sense to do it that way - categories are determined by packages (initially), and windows apps aren't packaged in that way...  i guess if there were a database for wine that saw what you installed, it could put it in the proper category, but putting all windows programs together, while not entirely intuitive, does make sense17:19
Daisuke_Laptopand that was a whole lot of s-o-c typing so forgive me if i repeated myself17:19
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BluesKajinteresting , adept notfier wants me to update packages and when I do (leaving out any languager packages of course), it fails with this message :There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.17:20
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: has someone reported that bug yet?17:21
* BluesKaj is losing confidence in kubuntu's ability to run a stable OS on this setup17:21
BluesKajnosrednaekim:  just did a clean install , using the US as location due to the Canadian repos sending down borked updates17:22
ghostBluesKaj: i've been getting that exact same thing17:23
LynoureDaisuke_Laptop: yes, you are right, it does17:23
flipstarUptime:           22 days, 3:56:32.0017:23
ghostBluesKaj: also just did a clean install17:23
flipstarwhats your problem ?17:23
ghostBluesKaj: go into the terminal and try to install one of those packeges withapt-get.. you should get the same error but it'll showu how to fix it17:24
tzdi can't remove some things in my thrash bin, can someone help me please?17:24
ghostBluesKaj: some kind of dpkg-***** option17:24
nosrednaekimtzd: how did you delete them?17:25
andyi have a choice of buying a wii or upgrading PC what should i do?17:25
nosrednaekimandy: get a wii :)17:26
BluesKajI'm afraid that i may be in a vicious circle like yesterday , where if i update any pkges , because there are so many after an install it'll break my setup .17:26
ghostwdh. I restarted today and my konqueror is gone17:26
nosrednaekimthen use the wiimote to control the computer :)17:26
andynosrednaekim: thats the conclusion i came to but the games are so expensive17:26
tzdnosrednaekim: the files are still in my thrash bin. I most likely moved them there by pressing "del" while the files where marked. The error message I get is: Could not remove catalogue /home/.Trash-1000/files/johan/.gnupg.17:26
* mrunagi wishes torrents would go faster17:26
ghostandy: get a wii! the only game u'll need is smash brothers brawl17:26
BluesKajgonna hide adept notifier17:26
mrunagi360 > wii > ps317:27
nosrednaekimtzd: you were probably root (or sudoed) when you dleted them17:27
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!17:27
Daisuke_Laptopbut for the record, i agree with mrunagi17:27
flipstarghost: what do you mean with 'gone' ? did you uninstalled ?17:27
mrunagiPC > 360 > wii > ps317:27
tzdnosrednaekim: ah alright. So if login as su in dolphin, will i be able to remove the files?17:27
ghostflipstar: no i didn't. I tried to suspend last night and couldn't get out so i had to hard shut-down. but now it seems konqueror is uninstalled.17:28
nosrednaekimmrunagi: yes?17:28
andygoing to wipe kubuntu yet again bbl people17:28
flipstarghost: did you do an fsck ?17:28
mrunaginosrednaekim: no?17:28
Daisuke_Laptopwhy wipe?17:28
andymaybe i should try suse again17:28
ghostflipstar: no, should i have after every hard shutdown? >.<17:28
andycause stupid me or stupid kubuntu isn't working properly17:29
flipstarghost: usally not..but in this case it might be helpful..17:29
Lynoureandy: I'd start with not just installing but purging wine, and then installing it again17:30
LynoureIt seems radical to reinstall or wipe over missing icons17:30
flipstarghost: if it just konqueror you might only reinstall it17:30
Ahmuckis there a way to get files from one pc to another using usb cable?17:31
andyLynoure: done that17:31
rickestAhmuck: only if a pen drive is attached to the cable :)17:31
andyreinstalled but still no kmenu icons17:31
Daisuke_Laptopwhat, just for wine?17:32
Daisuke_Laptopyou're reinstalling kubuntu just because there's no wine icons?17:32
ghostandy: are you reusing your /home partition from a previous install17:32
rickestAhmuck: or something like http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=27556117:32
Ahmuckin the old dos days, and windows 9x days you could hook up a serial cable from one pc to another and do data transfer.  since usb is serial, linux doesn't have this?17:32
nosrednaekimAhmuck: usually not....most computers do not have client chips on the USB ports17:32
andyghost: was a fresh install on whole drive17:33
mrunagianyone know how to emulate dvd drives?17:33
Daisuke_Laptopmrunagi: or acetoneiso17:33
mark__can't log into kubuntu     I'm able to do a consol log in but the gui gets as far as init services and then send me back to the log in17:33
mrunagithats just a graphical front end to mount isnt it flipstar?17:33
Ahmuckrickest: so think this would work?17:33
mrunagi!info acetoneiso17:33
ubotuPackage acetoneiso does not exist in gutsy17:33
Daisuke_Laptopnope, i think it's through one of the kde sites17:33
ghostmrunagi: yes it's just a front end17:33
flipstarmrunagi: i dont know you might as the bot but it can mount dvd images..17:34
mrunagii dont have a problem mounting images17:34
rickestAhmuck: you can't do it in windows, either, host OS is not the issue. USB is not "a" serial bus, not the serial ports of old you're thinking of (RS-232).17:34
mrunagii would just like to emulate a drive for them17:34
tzdnosrednaekim: it worked deleting them as su as you suggested. Thanks a lot for your help:)17:34
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!17:34
rickestAhmuck: er, USB *is* "a" serial but, not...17:34
ghostandy: sorry can't help u n e more >.<. some of the problems u were having i was having because i used my old /home partition, and fixed it with using fresh /home folder. but seems your situ. is dif.17:34
MilhousePunkRockHow can I downgrade back to KDE 3.5.8 from 3.5.9 from the ppa-repo?17:35
flipstarmrunagi: an emtpy dvd drive ? no dont know any app for that17:35
rickestAhmuck: it should work, I've just always used pen drives17:35
mrunagiflipstar: not really an empty dvd drivve...........when i mount an iso i would like for ubuntu to treat it as an actual device17:36
ubuntuhello, This is day 2 for me on kubuntu and my OS would not start up, or it just showed a blank screen. i'm using the Live CD right now. can anyone help me please get my system running again?17:37
Ahmuckrickest: looks like the cable is the way to go17:38
mark__need help: can't log into kubuntu...I can do a consol log in but when I use the gui it gets as far as "init services" and then sends me back to the log in.17:38
nosrednaekimubuntu: boot recovery mode in grub and run the following command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"17:38
rickestAhmuck: that's not just a cable, that's a device17:38
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nosrednaekimmark__: sounds like you are another victim of the translation pack...17:38
mark__yes I upgraded some trans stuff and havan't been able to log in17:39
nosrednaekimmark__: do remember the package name?17:40
zubamy computer shows blank screen after loading GRUB, i tweaked with the video settings and i cant get back onto my OS to fix it, can someone help17:40
mark__no this was yesterday...it was four english trans.17:40
Angeltronixhi guys, I have a problem with Kde 3.5.8...17:41
AngeltronixIt is consuming a lot of space in my /tmp folder17:41
Angeltronixuntil I run out of free space17:41
Angeltronixany clue?17:42
flipstaryou might check which file exactly it is ..17:42
flipstaryou can use 'filelight' for that17:42
flipstarthen you got a better idea of which program causes that17:43
Angeltronixok, is the temp data in " /tmp/kde-<username>/*  "17:43
nosrednaekimmark__: well, from failsafe mode, find out what those packs were, and uninstall them17:43
Angeltronixmmm, i think it could be konqueror...17:43
nosrednaekimmark__: or rather.. from the failsafe terminal...17:43
flipstarAngeltronix: you can use 'filelight' for that17:44
mark__how do I find which ones they were?17:44
Angeltronixok, I'll check17:44
flipstarmark__: /var/log/dpkg.log17:45
pushaxhi all.  jsut reinstalled system.  using kububtu hardy heron. alpha 5.  must admit this is great.  ntfs drives mount straight off with write access !!  my hp laser printer was found straight off !!!  talk about steps in the right direction.17:45
mark__thanks dude your a life saver!17:46
nosrednaekimpushax: sweet17:46
nosrednaekimpushax: if you have a decent graphics card... would you mind testing something for me?17:47
jussi01pushax: cool, remember, hardy support in #ubuntu+1:)17:47
Tw|sTAnyone here use X-ming to connect to a Kubuntu 7.10 XDCMP service for remote access?17:47
jeffpelgrimshellp all of you17:48
pushaxnosrednaekim: I restarted later with sata pluged in and ntfs detected and setup automaticially.  I pluged in my hp laser 1020+ and it found auto and added.17:48
jussi01!ask | jeffpelgrims17:48
ubotujeffpelgrims: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)17:48
pushaxnosrednaekim: I can try.17:48
mrunagiDaisuke_Laptop: you herE?17:48
Tw|sTwhen my server has had several days uptime, it flakes out on XDCMP connections... the login passes, but then when the session starts to load, all I get is a black screen17:48
flipstarjussi01: he didnt even asked :)17:48
pushaxnosrednaekim: the only problem is I've jsut installed and getting settings working.  my montior and video card are yet to be set to right mode.  it's has detected my radeon as a fire gl.17:49
mrunagiall i want is for mounted ISO to sit on the desktop and in storage media as if i have the disc in my drive.........is this not possible?17:50
progemy system doesn't seem to recognise my soundcard (realtek ALC268). alsamixer gives: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device.17:50
flipstarpushax: it still is an alpha release.. :)17:50
progeand aplay -y: aplay: device_list:204: no soundcards found...17:50
progeam i right and is there some way i could get sys to recognise the card?17:51
pushaxflipstar: yep alpha 5.  it's pretty stable but I have got some problems with control panel not displaying some areas due to liblython not linking properly17:51
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nosrednaekimproge: what does lspci say?17:51
nosrednaekimpushax: yeah... thats being worked on.17:52
Angeltronixflipstar: It is safe to launch filelight with sudo privileges?17:52
pushaxflipstar: I decided to upgrade as I was doing my first reintalled after experiencing with the inital install after leaving Vista.17:52
flipstarAngeltronix: guess yes....but there is no reason for that..17:52
progeunfortunately nothing about realtek :P17:52
tominglishi i want to upgrade my uvc driver to the latest version so that it works properly with skype17:53
nosrednaekimproge: anything about any sound at all?17:53
tominglisbut i don't really understand how to do this, as the instructions on here are pretty limited: https://developer.berlios.de/projects/linux-uvc/17:53
progeit might be this one 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)17:53
tominglisi was wondering whether anyone might be able to help me here or point me to someone that can?17:53
tominglisthanks, tom17:53
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Angeltronixflipstar: but, without admin provileges it can't access many directories...17:54
nosrednaekimproge: yep.. thats the one...17:54
nosrednaekim!intelhda | proge17:55
ubotuproge: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto17:55
progethank you nosrednaekim17:55
flipstartominglis: where is you problem ?17:55
Angeltronixflipstar: "filelight: ERROR: Inadequate access permisions: /var/...  "17:56
antoHii ! Who is french here please ??17:56
Ahmuckrickest: i have 18G i need to transfer17:56
jussi01!fr | anto17:56
ubotuanto: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:56
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flipstarAngeltronix: your directory in tmp should be accessable..you can run it as root using kdesu anyway..17:57
antoQui peut m'aider :$17:57
frank343when I17:58
frank343When I try to login, The login display stops at System Services and the login manager reappears17:58
frank343I tried renaming ~/.kde17:58
flipstardid you recently updated the translation pack  ?17:58
frank343flipstar: me? yeah17:59
flipstarnosred mentioned that there is a problem with that..try to downgrade/uninstall that package ..17:59
frank343flipstar: how do I downgrade using aptitude?18:00
nosrednaekimyech... we need a factoid for this.18:00
nosrednaekimfrank23: check in the /var/log/dpkg.log for the package name, and uninstall it.18:00
ghosthow do i change it so i can click on anything to get focus, not just the title bar?18:00
frank343nosrednaekim: ok18:00
nosrednaekimfrank23: and for my info.. culd you tell me what the package name is?18:01
flipstarghost: usually you can click on everything to get focus..18:02
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ghostflipstar: not mine18:03
frank343nosrednaekim: language-pack-kde-en and language-pack-kde-en-base I think...18:03
MilhousePunkRockSince upgrading to KDE 3.5.9, I am having trouble with /media and KWallet has become a bit flaky...18:04
nosrednaekimfrank23: thanks.18:04
MilhousePunkRockSo now I am looking for a way to downgrade back to good ol' 3.5.818:04
flipstarghost: you using kwin or compiz ?18:05
nosrednaekimMilhousePunkRock: uninstall kde, remove the ppa and install kubuntu-desktop18:06
jonathan_where is the grub.conf located in hardy im looking in /boot/grub and im not seeing it in that folder18:06
nosrednaekimjonathan_: menu.conf18:06
jonathan_in boot18:07
flipstar /boot/grub/menu.lst18:07
PhilRodhrm, anyone know how I can find out what package provides kwriteconfig? When I try to run it, I'm told to install kdebase-bin, but kdebase-bin is already installed18:07
jonathan_is that where i get rid of the splash screen18:07
flipstarjonathan_: yes if you want to do it by yourself..sure18:08
jonathan_flipstar: ?18:08
jonathan_what u mean18:08
flipstarelse you could try startupmanager18:08
MilhousePunkRocknosrednaekim: I have a minimal install, so that's not a solution for me... Does apt keep a log of the packages it upgraded?18:08
mrunagianyone know of a dvd emulator for ubuntu?18:08
ghostflipstar: compiz18:08
flipstarMilhousePunkRock: yes.. /var/log/dpkg.log18:09
geniimrunagi: If you want to watch iso files just loop mount them18:09
frank232nosrednaekim: flipstar removing the language-pack-kde-en and -base packages worked18:09
flipstarhe want to behave them as a cd/dvd genii18:09
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nosrednaekimfrank23: great18:11
genii!info cdemu18:12
ubotuPackage cdemu does not exist in gutsy18:12
coreymon77whats the matter?18:13
coreymon77we looking for a daemon tools type thing?18:13
frank232nosrednaekim: yeah but updates like that are the perfect way to scare off new kubuntu users forever18:13
nosrednaekimfrank23: oh.. I agree! but I'm glad to finally have the fix :)18:14
coreymon77frank232, nosrednaekim , huh? what are we talking about?18:14
nosrednaekimfrank23: factoid coming up from jussi01 in a moment for it too :)18:14
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: language-pack-kde-en breakage18:15
coreymon77nosrednaekim: what happened?18:15
flipstarespecially in a 'stable' version oO18:15
frank232coreymon77: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-kde-en/+bug/19564718:15
coreymon77canadian english bug!18:16
coreymon77not good18:16
coreymon77how did that happen?18:17
frank232coreymon77: at least it didn't affect everyone ;)18:17
geniimrunagi: You may want to try this way: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6953018:17
geniicoreymon77: Yeah like alcohol or daemontools18:17
coreymon77genii: CDemu18:18
geniicoreymon77: Yeah thats what that link is18:18
flipstarthis version provided there is obsolete18:18
coreymon77you looking on the SF project page?18:19
flipstarno the link from genii18:19
geniiflipstar: Likely :) It was the first comprehensive tutorial I hit18:19
flipstaron sf there uptodate like always :P http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93175&package_id=25671918:19
flipstargenii thanks for that anyway :) i bet it will help mrunagi18:20
geniimrunagi: You can use the previous link as a guide and just use the latest source code from sourceforge18:20
flipstarthere are also deps18:20
coreymon77genii: there is a ubuntu package for 1.018:20
flipstarerr deb's18:20
geniicoreymon77: 8.04? I don't see it on apt-cache on my gutsy18:21
scottHaves the Language-pack update killed anybody else's install?18:21
coreymon77flipstar: they are ubuntu debs though18:21
nosredna_ekimscott» lots ;)18:21
flipstarthis is what it tried to say coreymon77 ;)18:21
coreymon77genii: no, 7.1018:21
scottI needed to re-install Kubuntu and now I am scared to update18:21
nosredna_ekimscott» remove language-pack-kde-en and language-pack-kde-base18:21
nosredna_ekimscott» you didn't have to reinstall.....18:22
scottOkay, I will try that18:22
nosredna_ekimscott» well, don't do it now... just don't update until the fix is out (soon)18:22
coreymon77genii: the binary says its for ubuntu 7.10, but i dunno18:22
scottOh, okay, will do, thanks18:22
coreymon77genii: if it doesnt work, then try compiling18:22
nosredna_ekimscott» seems to only affect canadians....18:23
scottWhere would the update be anouced so I know when to update18:23
coreymon77genii: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93175&package_id=25671918:23
Jack111hi ive got in kmail the problem when i try to enter my pgp key it tells my no backends found, while i have them, only chiasmus is not used18:23
coreymon77class time18:23
nosredna_ekimc ya coreymon7718:23
mrunagicdemu is confusing =*(18:24
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scottUs Canadians are causing a problem :)18:24
* genii sips his Molson's and considers causing problems but then gets caught up watching a Leafs game18:26
mrunagiERROR: Failed to connect to CDEmu daemon: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name net.sf.cdemu.CDEMUD_Daemon was not provided by any .service file18:27
mrunagiim starting to think im too stupid for linux18:28
frank232genii: I'm sure the 5-0 win against Ottawa was worth watching if you're a Leafs fan ;-)18:28
geniimrunagi: The learning curve is steep but worth it. Everyone was a newbie once18:28
geniifrank232: Yes it was extremely sweet :)18:29
mrunagiive been runing ubuntu for almost a year =(18:29
mrunagiwhen will i  no longer be a newbie18:29
geniimrunagi: The error message you give indicates it wants a daemon running in background. Did you load the kernel module?18:29
mrunagicdemud right?18:29
mrunagiERROR: Failed to connect to CDEmu daemon: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.18:30
mrunagiah cdemud isnt running i got a new error18:31
mrunagicdemud: cdemud_daemon_initialize: failed to open control device /dev/vhba_ctl!18:31
geniimrunagi: Please tell me if command:  modprobe -l|grep cdemu           reports a module. If so then if: lsmod|grep cdemu     says the module is loaded18:32
mrunagino module loaded18:32
* genii sips a coffee and officially tries to adopt Mats Sundin18:32
mrunagino output18:32
geniimrunagi: Try then: sudo modprobe cdemu            and try again18:33
mrunagiFATAL: Module cdemu not found.18:36
kaminixHow do I make Google suggest stop suggesting and not start suggesting everytime I restart Konq?18:36
geniimrunagi: So then the first command I asked about previously: modprobe -l |grep cdemu          obviously did not list a module.18:37
Jontymy dpkg/status file keeps getting syntax errors in it. How can I stop that?18:37
flipstarmrunagi: did you installed the daemon ?18:37
mrunagipretty sure but i can double check18:37
flipstaryou probably need to install all files on the sf site ..18:38
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mrunagithe only one not is gcdemu18:39
mrunaginow it is18:41
lg188_volunteer needed for a job (nothing to do with Kubuntu)18:41
mrunagithen it is !ot18:41
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:41
jussi01lg188_: not here18:41
mrunagicdemud: cdemud_daemon_initialize: failed to open control device /dev/vhba_ctl!18:41
geniimrunagi: Did you get and install the Gutsy deb files from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93175&package_id=256719 or did you do it from source as per the other link?18:43
geniimrunagi: There is a vhba-module there at the sourceforge18:43
mrunagigenii: from deb18:44
mrunagivhba is installed18:44
mrunagithey all ar18:44
geniiMaybe reading the release notes might help18:45
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mrunagiwhere are those18:45
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geniimrunagi: Interestingly the documentation seems hard to find on the sourceforge site18:46
geniiwait a sec, an idea18:48
mrunagii got it18:48
geniimrunagi: I think it's a permissions thing on the device, per bottom of this page regarding a udev rule relating to that http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/pkg_vhba.php18:48
mrunagior at least i thought i did18:48
geniiwork calls, afk a minute or so18:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:51
mrunaginoodles12: thats a losing battle my friend18:52
KR-dataanyone who can point me towards a good ftp-klient?18:53
PiciKDE overdose will do that :p18:54
mrunagii got it!18:54
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd18:54
jpatrickKR-data: ^^18:54
KR-datajpatrick, gftp and ktpgrabber are crappy, I seriously doubt that nautilus will do it, but I'll have a look anyway if konqueror or kasablanca can't do the job18:56
jussi01KR-data: konq is more than fine for my needs18:56
jpatrickKR-data: personally I prefer ssh+rsync instead of ftp18:56
mrunagihrm this tar is reporting the file to be 16gb but the tar file is 2.5gb thats not possible is it?18:57
KR-datajpatrick, well tell that to my webhost :)18:57
KR-datajussi01, ok I'll have a look18:57
jussi01root__: ?18:57
root__hola mi vida18:57
flipstarKR-data: filezilla is great18:58
jpatrick!es | root__18:58
uboturoot__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.18:58
KR-dataflipstar, filezilla? Isn't that from Mozilla?18:58
jussi01yeah, firefox plugin18:58
francisco_hi I was wondering if it is possible to upgrade from gusty gibbon to hardy alpha 5 ?18:58
jussi01!hardy | francisco_18:59
ubotufrancisco_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu18:59
flipstarno filezilla is no plugin18:59
francisco_i guess19:00
venikI had to reboot my computer, and now my external USB drive does not appear in the storage media list19:01
venikI do not see that drive in the System Settings/file system either19:02
jussi01francisco_: just trying to point out hardy help is in #ubuntu+119:03
venikthis USB drive has disappeared in the past19:03
venikand someone here told me how to edit the fstab file to bring it back, but now it is gone again19:03
flipstarvenik: try to unplug and plug it again19:11
BluesKajwow, still no joy ..4 tries and kubuntu fails to load the login page or even goto the prompt when ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 is used. If this wasn't so ridiculously maddening it could be funny :P19:15
geniiBluesKaj: Crashed your box, or new install?19:16
* BluesKaj wonders if gnome might work19:16
BluesKajboth genii , it crashed first19:17
geniiAh, I see19:17
BluesKajthen the new install fails19:18
geniiHard drive OK?19:18
BluesKaj4 new installs ...I must be insane for trying this again & again ...you what they say about someone who keeps doing the same thing over & over and expecting a differnt result :P19:19
BluesKajyup, windows is fine19:19
jussi01checked your md5?19:20
BluesKajgenii , it crashed yestrday after that new language update ...it's evil whatever it is19:20
* genii makes a note not to update this week19:20
BluesKajnothing wrong with install ...it's when i reboot after doing the updates to it , then there's absolutely no access to either the prompt or the login page19:21
BluesKajmd5 ...gawd , gimme a break19:22
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geniiSince it's the updates causing an issue maybe unplug it from internet for that part19:22
jussi01!langpack | BluesKaj19:22
ubotuBluesKaj: A recent update broke some KDE language packs, leaving the user unable to login. (http://launchpad.net/bugs/195647) To fix this, remove the updated packages (language-pack-kde-en, language-pack-kde-en-base) and restart KDE.19:22
BluesKajhow can one remove the language packages when the login and the tty are inaccessible ..DOH!19:23
jussi01BluesKaj: recovery mode?19:23
BluesKajrecovery mode is the same19:24
jussi01hrmmm, thats not what others were reporting... :(19:24
geniiBluesKaj: WEll, there's always chroot19:25
venikFlipstar-- I tried it a few times-- no help19:25
BluesKaji even tried using The US repos and location cuz someone here said that the fault was with the canadian repos/pkges19:25
flipstarvenik: it dont even get listed via fdisk -l ?19:25
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box19:26
BluesKajusing x86 on a 64 box ...don't need 64bit grief19:26
geniiBluesKaj: You boot to livecd, mount the old /  then loopmount /dev /proc /sys into the mountpoint. Also if net needed then hosts and interfaces. then chroot into the mountpoint and what you need to original system19:28
geniiSorry for lag, work called me in mid-reply :)19:28
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BluesKajhehe, all this advice but it doesn't seem to get thru that the TTY prompt and login are not working. ...but of course "that's not what others are encountering" .. that really helps :)19:31
jussi01BluesKaj: look at what genii just said19:31
venikflipstar-- fdisk -l produces no output at all... ;-(19:31
geniiBluesKaj: When you chroot the tty ino of original box is not being used19:31
francisco_can anyone help? im having problems with my panels / kicker......when i click configure panels, it only lets me change stuff for the main one, i remember there being a drop down box to select which panel to edit, but it isnt anywhere, anyone help?, im trying to make my secondary panel hide19:32
BluesKajdunno how to use chroot ...it's beyond my understanding19:32
flipstarvenik: oh..you have to run it as root..using sudo19:32
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tzddoes anyone know if it's possible using a global shortcut key like F12 for opening BasKet note pad (while it's included in Kontact) please?19:33
jussi01MasterPaco: you need to restart kicker iirc19:33
Lynourefrancisco_: easiest way is to choose the panel settings from the panel in question, instead of going through the System Settings, if you cannot do that, restart kicker19:33
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MasterPacoi tried that, im clicking on the panel i want to change.....ok ill restart kicker 1 sec19:34
MasterPacothe drop down box has appeared19:34
MasterPacothanks :), spent ages trying to sort it, till i gave in a chose irc :D19:34
venikI am not sure, but it looks as if fdisk -l does not show that USB drive19:37
venikit is formatted as VFAT19:38
venikand used to be sdd1, but there is no such thing now19:38
kubuntu_anybody help me19:41
martijn81hi there kubuntu_19:41
kubuntu_abaout alsa19:41
martijn81just ask please19:41
kubuntu_I do not have alsaconf19:42
kubuntu_in my kubuntu 6.0619:42
kubuntu_and asoundconf19:42
kubuntu_it is possible to configure my sound19:42
venikflipstar, my fstab has a line in it: /dev/sdd1 /media/LACIE vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,user 0 019:42
venikwhich talks about that drive, but somehow it got ignored during the last reboot19:42
venikand fdisk -l does not show it at all19:43
kubuntu_with asoundconf, that it my distro linux kubuntu 6.06 LTS for a long time19:43
kubuntu_i think about19:43
flipstarvenik: did you plugged it correct ? seems like the drive isnt found19:44
venikIt was working before I rebooted, and I did not unplugged it19:44
tzddoes anyone know if it's possible using a global shortcut key like F12 for opening BasKet note pad (while it's included in Kontact) please?19:44
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venikI did unplug it after it "disappeared" from my desktop19:44
BluesKajok, genii , I was in windows so wasn't able to run your instructions , I'm on the live CD now19:44
kubuntu_hi martijn thanks, for  your response here19:45
kubuntu_and i go out now19:45
kubuntu_but, the bug tomorrow after i saw htis19:45
flipstarvenik: did you do an update or changed anything else ?19:46
venikwell... I update those packages that require updating19:46
venikthat little red triangle19:46
venikbut it worked with all the updates until I rebooted19:46
venikmaybe I should reboot again19:47
venikthis is becoming like WINDOZ...19:47
venikwhen I type: blkid I get all the other drives listed, but not the USB hard drive19:48
hellmasterhi everyone19:49
flipstarseems like the drive is missing19:49
flipstarhi hellmaster19:49
hellmasteri have a question: if i want to make a DVD video and make my own screen and everything what program can i use?19:49
hellmasteri have the videos in avi format19:49
BluesKajmake your own screen ?19:50
venikflipstar-- Krusader does see the drive, but Mountman cannot mount it19:50
llutzhellmaster: qdvdauthor, mandvd maybe you'll need to convert videos before (with avidemux)19:50
venikit says that the drive does not exist19:50
jussi01kdenlive is a good video editor19:50
venikreboot time...19:51
hellmasterlet me explain just in case llutz, i have a compilation of family videos, and i want to make a dvd with them19:52
hellmasteri want it to have a menu so they can choose what episode (video) they want to see19:53
hellmasterbirthday, new year, etc..19:53
hellmasterthose will help me right?19:53
llutzhellmaster: they will19:53
BluesKajjussi01: ok chrooted to "root@ubuntu#" in the konsole , since I was unable to save genii's instructions would you mind scrolling back and posting them for me ? thanks19:54
flipstar BluesKaj: You boot to livecd, mount the old /  then loopmount /dev /proc /sys into the mountpoint. Also if net needed then hosts and interfaces. then chroot into the mountpoint and what you need to original system19:54
BluesKajtodisc is a good app to set up menus19:55
flipstarcopyright by genii :)19:55
llutzhellmaster: but be carefull, qdvauthor is very mighty but needs a lot of reading/testing/learning19:55
hellmasterin what sense llutz??19:56
BluesKajflipstar , not sure how to about that .. 'sudo loopmount /dev /proc /sys'   ?19:57
hellmasterive done things like that before with nero vision, but since i change to linux, nero vision no more19:58
flipstarprobably  sudo mount -t proc proc /target/proc sudo mount -t sysfs sysfs /target/sys19:58
flipstarerr since you are root without sudo19:59
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llutzhellmaster: another app is kmediafactory and i'm sure there are a lot more19:59
flipstarBluesKaj: i dont know what he wanted to say with loopmount ..19:59
hellmasterok thanks19:59
Sammudoes anyone know a channel where u can get music?19:59
ArwenSammu, #this_is_not_a_piracy_network20:00
flipstartry #illegal_warez_channel20:00
flipstaror search google for free music20:00
Sammuok thanks20:00
martijn81warez on freenode, don' t think so....20:01
jussi01hellmaster: please dont.20:01
llutzvisit jamendo.com, legal free music20:01
kollaodd problem - just upgraded from feisty to gutsy and KDE-3.5.9, and now KDE insists that path to Desktop and Documents is /20:02
martijn81it's even in ogg vorbis20:02
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kollaeven if I set it manually, it still uses /20:02
kollaAutostart however, is set correctly20:02
kollaalso, this is systemwide, I made a new user just to try it, and the new user also got / as Desktop20:03
BluesKajflipstar , I have no access to my kubuntu partiton , the login and the tty are inaccessible on both generic and recovery , so I was advised to uninstall the language packs that came with yesterdays updates , (which I tried to avoid on this last install BTW) in order to fix my broken setup.20:04
hellmasterthanks llutz cya later everyone20:04
jussi01Sammu: /join #kubuntu-fi20:04
Sammumy bad20:05
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi20:05
flipstarBluesKaj: so you started the livecd and chrooted and now going to uninstall the bad package.....?20:06
BluesKajexactly flipstar20:06
flipstargreat :)20:06
BluesKajstill trying to mount / on the installed kubuntu20:07
flipstarmkdir /media/target;mount /dev/<enterdevicehere> /media/target ..20:08
BluesKaji used "sudo chroot / "20:08
flipstaruhm you have to mount it first and then mount sys and proc20:08
flipstarthen chroot20:09
RogueJediXI switched motherboards recently and now instead of /dev/cdrom0 and 1, I have /dev/cdrom2 and 3. Any way to fix this or update fstab?20:09
flipstartype exit to quit ..20:09
BluesKajflipstar mount / ?20:09
flipstar / is your root partition on your hard drive ..20:10
flipstaryou have to mount this partition ..20:10
BluesKaji tried  ' mount / ' but i just error messages20:12
beenerim build a computer and i need to know a good 7.1 sound card that will work with linux20:12
BluesKajbeener , nvidia20:13
beenernvidia make sound cards?20:13
limbeauxtrying to install kubuntu, but the install fails saying that the partition is not to be formatted.  i cant figure out where to tell it to format.20:14
limbeauxi see the work format, but i cannot check it20:14
* Sammu thinks jamendo's good..20:15
BluesKajbeener , google works20:15
beenerive only pulled up software no hardware20:15
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jussi01!nickspam > KONA_Stinky20:16
KONA_StinkyDésoler mais KONA et déjà prix donc je msi celui la20:17
limbeauxcan anyone tell me how to make the installer format the drive?20:17
BluesKaj!fr | KONA_Stinky20:17
ubotuKONA_Stinky: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.20:17
beenerare you running through text based or gui based20:18
KONA_Stinkythx :)20:18
BluesKajlimbeaux:  where are you in the install process?20:18
limbeauxdisk partitioning20:18
beenerare you useing the whole drive?20:19
limbeauxmounting as /20:19
beenerthe cd or dvd should have a text based installer that is easy to use20:19
BluesKajedit the partition you want to use by right clicking on it and choosing " / " in the drop down dialog20:19
beenerive hand trouble like that with the gui but text never fails me20:19
* Sammu is bored..20:20
flipstaris there an alternative for krdc ? it always crashes ..20:21
* BluesKaj is still wondering how to mount / from the live cd terminal 20:21
flipstarBluesKaj: what kind of error message ?20:21
BluesKajwrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on unionfs20:22
flipstartry fsck first20:22
BluesKajthen,missing codepage or helper program, or other error20:22
flipstaryou mounting the right partition ? sda1 for e.g instead of sda ?20:23
BluesKajflipstar:  /dev/hda220:24
flipstar..and fsck /dev/hda2 drops the message above ? oO20:25
BluesKajflipstar:  /dev/hda2: clean, 95247/12828672 files, 1509657/25637731 blocks20:26
flipstarmaybe you can try mount -t <filesystem> /dev/hda2 /media/target20:26
flipstarprobably ext3 i guess20:26
* Sammu doesn't care20:27
limbeauxok, i had to choose manual, delete existing partitions, then create new ones and then format was an option for me20:27
teo- it the new kernel compatible with broadcom 4311 cards???20:28
flipstardamn why does krdc always crash :((20:28
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msaeedFGF welcome20:28
osamawelcome msaeed20:29
pushaxheron will be the end on many questions on mounting drives, in my opinion20:29
osamamohamed moahmood congratulation20:29
ayman_ahlan ya baih20:29
flipstarteo-: you might ask in ##kernel , *ubuntu uses a modified kernel20:29
BluesKajflipstar:  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/ .. no output20:29
flipstardid it work ?20:29
BluesKajflipstar:  went back to the prompt20:30
flipstarcheck if it mount.. ls /media/target..20:30
BluesKajit's not , hence i dropped the "target'20:31
BluesKajmount point /media/target does not exist20:31
* Sammu haistattaa pitkät20:34
jpatrick!fi > Sammu20:34
limbeauxwhat is oem install?20:35
flipstarBluesKaj: ..you have to create the mount point first ....20:35
jpatricklimbeaux: for companies20:35
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate20:35
limbeauxrephrase:  what does oem install do differently than other install options?20:36
limbeauxi don't see a text install option on what i downloaded either20:36
Exilantis my installation a bit broken or has ubuntu gotten a lot bigger?20:36
Exilant / has 4.6 Gigabyte and is full, used to be plenty of space20:37
yao_ziyuanin kubuntu,20:38
BluesKajflipstar: create a mount point ? it's already there ...just have to find it20:38
yao_ziyuani want thunderbird to minimize to tray20:38
yao_ziyuanany idea?20:38
flipstarBluesKaj: yes..just use <sudo mkdir /media/target>20:38
gekko_is it possible to trigger the kicker panel via dcop or similar to hide/unhide?20:38
BluesKajok flipstar, did that20:39
flipstarExilant: my installation also is big like this.you can use 'filelight' to discover your drive .20:39
flipstarBluesKaj: now mount again :)20:39
flipstar<sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/target>20:40
Exilantflipstar: already did that, didn't see anything particularly big20:40
BluesKajflipstar: does it tell you it's mounted ?20:40
Exilanthowever, had somehow in my mind that similar software once was like 3.5 G20:40
flipstarBluesKaj: since you just created the mount point..no20:40
flipstarExilant: i installed much software..i have over 1300 packages right now..20:41
flipstaropen office..games..linux headers..and all kind of stuff20:41
BluesKajok, now ... ?20:41
Exilantme too, except for the games20:41
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Exilantok, have 1500 installed somehow20:42
flipstarBluesKaj: sudo mount -t proc proc /target/procsudo mount -t sysfs sysfs /target/sys20:42
flipstar*sudo mount -t proc proc /target/proc;sudo mount -t sysfs sysfs /target/sys20:42
flipstarExilant: i installed nexuiz :)20:43
flipstarExilant: maybe you want to do an <sudo apt-get clean> to delete old packages that where downloaded ..20:44
BluesKajmount: mount point /target/proc does not exist20:44
BluesKajmount: mount point /target/sys does not exist20:44
Exilantflipstar: i already did that20:44
ExilantFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on20:44
Exilant/dev/sda5             4.6G  4.4G   29M 100% /20:44
flipstarBluesKaj: sudo mount -t proc proc media/target/proc;sudo mount -t sysfs sysfs /media/target/sys20:45
Exilantkind of full :)20:45
flipstaroh yes...filelight didnt helped you to discover ?20:45
geniiflipstar: Ah, I see you're on the  chroot with BluesKaj :)20:45
flipstargenii: yep :)20:45
BluesKajmount: mount point media/target/proc does not exist20:45
BluesKajnot chrooted yet20:45
flipstaroh ehm create then :)20:46
flipstarmkdir /media/target/proc20:46
flipstarmkdir /media/target/sys20:46
BluesKajweird , it says the files exist20:47
flipstarExilant: my /home already uses about 1.65 gig ..20:48
geniiYou used relative path previously eg:  media/target  instead of /media/target20:48
BluesKajflipstar:  I'll have to leave it there for a while ..got things to do for a half hour or so20:48
Exilantflipstar: no, i guess i just have to much installed, /home is on another partition20:48
flipstarokay...cya maybe you have more luck then BluesKaj ..20:48
flipstarExilant: then you might should uninstall all unnessesary :)20:49
BluesKajmount: according to mtab, sysfs is already mounted on /media/target/sys20:49
geniiBluesKaj: The prob is the first one. proc20:50
geniiBluesKaj: The mount line gave a relative path for media dir20:50
Exilantflipstar: well, i'm going to repartition, no clue what takes so much space20:50
Exilantand i wanted /home encrypted anyway20:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:51
jpatrickDaSkreech: KDE LUKS is only in hardy20:51
BluesKajgenii:  gotta do some stuff , BB in 30 mins20:51
geniiBluesKaj: sudo mount -t proc proc /media/target/proc      should work there20:51
geniiBluesKaj: I'll try to be around :)20:52
jpatrickDaSkreech: I know it is :) I'm the one who got the patch into kdebase20:52
flipstar!info cryptsetup20:52
ubotucryptsetup (source: cryptsetup): configures encrypted block devices. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.5-2ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 87 kB, installed size 404 kB20:52
BluesKajmount: according to mtab, proc is already mounted on /media/target/proc20:52
BluesKajok, BBL20:52
DaSkreechjpatrick: Man Why does linux have to be so cool :( ??20:52
DaSkreechBye BluesKaj20:53
flipstaryes this is boring :(20:53
flipstarUptime:           22 days, 7:26:51.0020:53
jpatrickDaSkreech: :)20:53
Exilantkde luks works in hardy?20:53
DaSkreechflipstar: That's tiny :)20:53
jpatrickExilant: should do20:53
Exilanttried it on the livecd, but i'll see soon20:54
flipstarworks great on hardy..20:54
jpatrickExilant: KDE 4 that is20:54
Exilantso i'll finally have a reason to switch to kde4?20:55
martijn81Exilant: composite effects will be a another reason20:55
jpatrickExilant: no, the patch I added was for KDE3, sorry20:56
Exilantah, ok20:56
DaSkreechExilant: What reasons have you had to stay off of it?20:57
martijn81i got the composite effects working already, and they are great! nive macosx expos'e feature included20:57
Exilanti tried 4.0.0, but somehow the fonts were messed up20:57
martijn81Exilant: that is in gutsy only, not in hardy20:58
DaSkreech4.0.2 tage btw?20:58
jpatrickDaSkreech: from #kde: < aseigo> martijn81: tagging is soon21:01
Exilantok, going to repartition, just hope everything is really backed up21:05
flipstarbackup again if you doubt :)21:05
jpatrickExilant: did you use rsync?21:05
Exilanti used cp21:05
Exilantand k3b21:06
Exilantso in theory, everything should be backed up on the external hd and on dvd21:06
omeowAdept just installed a list of updates and now I can no longer type a double quote. If I try it, then a / appears instead. What happened? My keyboard layout did not change. It's still set to what it was. US int.21:07
Exilantjpatrick: anything wrong with rsync?21:07
jpatrickExilant: it's really useful for backups21:08
jpatrick!info rsync21:08
ubotursync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB21:08
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jpatrickroot__: good evening to you too21:11
^Strasharo^Hi guys21:13
^Strasharo^nqkoi 6te bude li taka dobar da pomogne malko21:14
rjbhello, i'm inclined to rant about mobile phone - pc communication but i don't wanna be offtopic;-)21:15
rjbso let me just ask, what kubuntu/kde apps do you use21:15
rjbto communicate between a phone and a pc?21:16
jussi01!info kmobiletools21:16
ubotukmobiletools (source: kmobiletools): KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version (gutsy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB21:16
trappistrjb: I use bitpim21:17
rjbyeah i did try kmobiletools21:17
ubotuGuides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/21:17
rjbvery few capabilities21:18
flipstar!bg | ^Strasharo^21:18
ubotu^Strasharo^: опитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently21:18
_dennisterhey pps...have a bit of a prob here...certain apps won't work with kde4 and now I can't get into kde3 anymore either21:19
rjbmore specifically, what can one do with a phone that has a usb port, but won't behave as a usb storage device?21:19
_dennisterit was fine this morning ...until i agreed to some updates :(21:19
rjbthrowing megabytes over bluetooth gets boring after a while21:20
DaSkreechBye all21:20
_dennisterbye DaSkreech21:21
^Strasharo^bye DaSkreech21:21
rjbbtw beats me what the developers of these toys were thinking - put a usb port on the device, but make it nearly useless??21:21
ScarFreewillI just got my 3G/internet working in 7.10 on my dell latitude, I can ping google, use apt-get/apt but my kde apps can't use the internet I'm using kppp as dailup connection21:22
_dennisteranyone with any ideas as to how to get back into kde3? i even tried a console login, which worked, but 'startx' didn't...just returned me to console21:23
x_linkHi all Kubuntu-users =)21:23
x_linkJust have a question, then I will leave you guys alone.21:23
x_linkWhat do you guys think of Kubuntu 64-bits?21:24
x_linkI have Kubuntu 7.10 32-bits right now and it works great.21:24
_dennisterstick with it then21:24
ScarFreewillx_link, stay21:24
x_linkI had 2GB RAM, but I got another 2GB today. But when I do "free -m" it only shows 3.5GB =/21:24
x_linkIt doesn't show the other 512MB.21:24
flipstarthats 32bit21:24
x_linkWhy is that?21:24
x_linkBut 32-bits is supposed to support 4GB RAM?21:24
flipstar32 can only adress 3.521:25
x_linkAhha okey.21:25
rjbthanx for the link from ubotu, but i'm afraid it contains nothing of use to me21:25
Arwenflipstar, actually, with extended memory addressing, up to 64GB can be used21:25
Arwenbut not at the same time21:26
flipstarso how to do this ?21:26
flipstaruhm thats just theoretic ?21:26
BluesKajok , errands are done21:27
rjbok could someone perhaps point me to a channel where folks that play w/mobile phones hang out?21:27
x_linkflipstar: So you don't think that I should switch to 64-bits?21:27
flipstar"never change a running system" :P21:28
Arwenflipstar, hmm? no, it exists on MS Windows Server and probably Linux too21:28
Arwenjust don't know how to use it21:28
flipstarif you really need this 512mb you can do this ..21:28
x_linkflipstar: Okey then =)21:28
ScarFreewillhow can I set my http proxy in cli?21:28
x_linkBut 64-bits should be better?21:28
flipstarnot nessesary21:28
flipstarit might be faster in some apps21:29
x_linkflipstar: But then I will stay I guess.21:29
x_linkBut now my RAM isn't dual-channel I guess?21:29
BluesKajx_link: depends on your graphics card21:29
_dennisterx_link, i echo flipstar's comment..don't do what I did and change a running system21:29
x_linkSince it only uses 3.5GB =/21:29
ScarFreewillx_link, you'll get less support for various applications as well as packages if you use 64bit version21:29
Arwen64-bit is faster until you have to load 32-bit libs for compatibility21:29
BluesKaj64 bit is lacking with ATI hardware21:29
_dennisterI just did and now i'm in here looking for help :(21:29
x_link_dennister: Did you just change to 64-bits?21:29
_dennisterno, i've tried various times to go 64-bits...always sorry21:30
x_link_dennister: Okey, what didn't you like with it?21:30
BluesKaj_dennister:  that's been my experience too21:30
x_linkI'm not trying to be negative or a pain in the ass with my questions. I just wanna know =)21:30
x_linkSo no hard feeling for my questions! =)21:30
_dennisterthe fact taht some apps won't work with it...like flash...sorry, but I love good rhetoric21:30
_dennisterI'd miss listening to good presentations like michael geist, eben moglen...21:31
_dennisterhey, BluesKaj long time no chat21:31
BluesKajyeah _dennister , how you been ? :)21:32
x_link_dennister: Okey.21:32
x_linkJust one last thing.21:32
_dennisteru must be a real expert by now...it's been rough lately, BluesKaj , but I'm recovering now since i moved again21:32
x_linkNow that I have 4GB RAM, but only 3.5GB works.21:32
x_linkThen I my RAM isn't  working as Dual-Channel, right?21:32
_dennisterand it'll be even better when i win my lawsuit against my old landlords...more hardware, here we come :)21:33
x_link_dennister: hehe21:33
_dennisterbut anyway, i need some help with kde4/kde321:33
flipstarx_link: no..the problem is that a 32bit system can only adress 3.5gig ..so everything else cant be used21:33
BluesKaj_dennister:  far from 'expert " I'm afraid , aamof , i'm in particularly bad jam with this latest update that borked my setup :P21:33
_dennisteryeah, i think my latest update this morning is what borked me up, too...what did u update?21:34
x_linkflipstar: I know, but am I using Dual-Channel now or Singel-Channel?21:34
BluesKajI tried kde4 , but it wasn't for me21:34
x_linkBluesKaj: Not me either =/21:34
x_linkBluesKaj: Just upgraded to KDE 3.5.921:34
BluesKajoww x_link21:35
x_linkBut KDE 4.0 isn't done yet-21:35
_dennisterwell i can't get into kde3 now since my update of today...kde4 is the only way I can get logged in to the xserver21:35
flipstarx_link: you have to take a look at your motherboard for that21:35
x_linkIt will maybe look better in 3-6 months or so.21:35
x_linkflipstar: Okey.21:35
x_linkflipstar: I only have 4 memory-slots, and I have RAM-sticks in every one.21:35
x_linkSo it must be Dual-Channe..21:35
BluesKaj_dennister:  it was yesterday , the word is that a language package upgrade is the offending item21:36
x_linkBut I thought since it only uses 3.5GB of those 4GB maybe it's not dual-channel right now.21:36
flipstarx_link: yep if your board support this, you have it :)21:36
ScarFreewillBluesKaj, how long do you think kde3 wil be available for kubuntu?21:36
_dennisterBluesKaj, yep! that's it! i'd forgotten, thanks!21:36
flipstarScarFreewill: at least until 8.10 :)21:36
x_linkflipstar: okey, I will reboot now to see =)21:37
ScarFreewilllts right?21:37
BluesKajScarFreewill:  prolly another 6mos21:37
_dennisterso perhaps I should purge the language pack? will that help me get back into kde3 and its apps?21:37
mohihi, is it possible to connect two laptops with their wireless for internet and file sharing?21:37
ScarFreewillBluesKaj, but if its in the lts wouldn't it be available for a little longer?21:38
BluesKaj_dennister:  that's what I'm trying to do...I have absolutely no acces to either the login page or the tty on either generic or recovery :P21:38
BluesKajScarFreewill: if it's LTS yes21:38
BluesKaj<--running on live CD21:39
ScarFreewillah got inet working for my kde appes21:40
ScarFreewilleth0 down21:40
_dennisteri get the login page, type in my password, only 2 out of 6 or 8 icons get lit up, and then i'm dropped back into the login screen...i did login successfully with a console login, but 'starx' wouldn't work...dropped me right back into console21:40
Exilantall formated now, i hope that backup worked :)21:41
ScarFreewillI'm off Good Luck _dennister21:41
_dennisterbye ScarFreewill21:42
rjbhmm tried bitpim, but it's not able to talk to my phone over usb afaics21:42
BluesKaj_dennister:  exactly the problem I had yesterday ...ran out of options and patience (IMO anyway) and did 3 clean installs so far ..all fail upon rebooting after setting up my fav apps and sources ..left the graphics settings alone , except for enabling the restricted default driver21:42
_dennisteroh, nooooooo!!! and now ur in livecd!...I can't do a clean install now...I've got that lawsuit I'm still preparing21:43
_dennisterhearing is on march 13 :P21:44
BluesKajtrying to rescue my last install, but it's taking a while , cuz my cli abilities are rather limited21:44
_dennisterok...locales 2.3.6 is conflicting with language-pack-en-base21:44
_dennisterdoes anyone have a link to the fix for this thing?21:45
mathew_hey does anyone hear know a quick and easy to set up tv viewer?21:45
mathew_also a good21:45
mathew_one i tried kaffine but its slow21:45
mathew_like keeps jumping21:45
mathew_on piture21:45
BluesKaj_dennister:  you may be able to rescue it , genii seems to think it can be done21:46
Exilantrjb: you might have some luck with bitpim nonetheless, for example it can browse the filesystem on my s81, but doesn't automatically recognise it or can do anything else21:46
_dennisterthere were 3 language related updates i allowed today...does anyone remember precisely which ones they were?21:46
rjbExilant: i tried, but couldn't get bitpim to communicate w/ my samsung *at all*21:46
mathew_hey does anyone hear know a quick and easy to set up tv programs?21:47
mathew_for kubuntu21:47
Exilantmathew_: xawtv?21:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about languageissues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:47
mathew_is it good21:47
rjbi had better luck with kmobiletools, but only browsing the phonebook and sms collection21:47
BluesKajtvtime is good too21:47
Exilantmathew_: depends on what you want21:48
rjbit doesn't do file transfers afaics21:48
mathew_to be able to wacth tv without crappy flickers n stutters lol21:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about language-pack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:48
mathew_how do i install it21:48
_dennisterok, well it says genii is here...i'll just go out to have a cig and then ping him...hopefully he'll be closeby21:48
Exilantmathew_: well, try it. apt-get install xawtv or the like21:49
BluesKajhe said he'd be around , _dennister21:49
Daisuke_Idojust have to mention one of the magic words21:50
TheFuzzballdoes anyone know how to install Compiz Fusion 0.7.0 in Kubuntu Gutsy?21:50
Daisuke_Idocoffee and beer21:50
flipstar!compiz > TheFuzzball21:50
Daisuke_Ido!compiz | TheFuzzball21:50
ubotuTheFuzzball: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:50
trappistis there a way to dump my current package selection to a file that I could use later to duplicate it?21:51
mathew_apt-get install xawtvapt-get install xawtvapt-get install xawtv21:51
flipstar!clone > trappist21:51
trappistflipstar: perfect, thanks21:51
rjbbluetooth is kind of flaky, every once in a while the devices just disconnect, breaking a long-running file transfer21:52
BluesKajflipstar: mount: proc already mounted or /media/target/proc busy ; mount: according to mtab, proc is already mounted on /media/target/proc21:55
rjband the speed reminds me of the times i used a printer cable to hook 2 pc's together21:55
Exilanthehe :)21:55
rjbPLIP it was called - IP over a parallel line (== printer cable)21:56
Exilantthose were the days21:57
Exilantactually, that was better than the serial cable21:57
rjbfaster, yes21:57
* BluesKaj wonders what's next after mounting22:00
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flipstarBluesKaj: after mount youre near to your target..try unmounting first ..22:03
MrJoeyWhat Ubuntu package is fdisk in?22:03
Arwen!search fdisk22:03
BluesKajflipstar: unmounting ??22:03
flipstarits in base install22:04
flipstarwith umount ..22:04
BluesKajpls explain22:04
flipstarumount media/target/proc22:04
BluesKajok, don't understand why tho22:05
trappistnow, any easy way to dump all crontabs to file I could use to restore them?22:05
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crookshanksanyone know if it's possible to increase the buffer limit on pasting into konsole?22:06
Jahromeo? compiz22:06
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:06
MrJoeyOkay, fdisk is apparently in the package "mount"22:06
flipstarit says it already is mounted.. you also could just restart BluesKaj ..22:06
BluesKajflipstar:  did the cmd  and this was the message : umount: media/target/proc is not mounted (according to mtab)22:06
flipstarcrookshanks: in kde3 setting-->progress or similar22:07
_dennisterok, well i've pinged genii...will have to wait until he comes back from whereever22:07
AranelI have a problem with Xterm. Here: xterm: Can't execvp /usr/X11R6/bin/luit: No such file or directory22:07
flipstarBluesKaj: restart would probably easyier..i did a error when i said mount media/blah instead of /media/blah ..22:08
crookshanksflipstar: progress?  i can't find that option22:09
BluesKajrestart ?  ...I22:09
flipstarcrookshanks: i dont know how it is called..but it is in the menu there ..22:09
swattoanyone else go the bug when you click on a internet link in a program it trys to load the link in konqueror and then konqueror just disappears...22:09
BluesKajI'm on Live CD , flipstar22:09
Jahromeoyep swatto had it with segmenation issues22:09
Jahromeoi reformatted22:09
crookshanksflipstar: do you mean the history buffer?  that's not linked to pasting though is it?22:09
flipstarcrookshanks: this is what you wanted to change dont you22:10
crookshanksflipstar: not history, i wanted to increasing the pasting buffer22:10
flipstarcrookshanks: default is 1000 lines22:10
flipstarno it is not the bash history..22:10
flipstarthats a different thing22:10
crookshanksflipstar: i don't think i'm explaining my question well enough22:11
crookshanksflipstar: if i paste into konsole from my clipboard, using shift+insert, there's apparently a limit onto how much i can paste22:11
flipstaryes..1000 lines ..22:11
crookshanksflipstar: that's not the case as far as i can tell22:12
crookshanksi just tried to paste 413 lines and it stopped short22:12
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jpatrickHug Day! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080228/KDE22:12
flipstarcrookshanks: then you might remove line format in the text you paste22:13
Arwenyay for topic length limits?22:13
crookshanksflipstar: i'm pasting raw text22:13
crookshanksno formatting22:13
crookshanks  patient:    two22:13
crookshanks  field_name: hc122:13
crookshanks  reason:     decrease from previous measurement22:13
JoTrockenhas anyone some knowledge about the fglrx driver? Iḿ jsut getting a black screen when following the official installation guideline22:13
jpatrickArwen: meh22:13
flipstarno line breaks ?22:13
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Jahromeo! compiz22:14
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:14
Jahromeo? compiz22:14
Arwenwhen I use kdesu/kdesudo/sudo to start a GTK+ application like "Synaptic" or "Firefox", it loads with the ugly default GTK style instead of the one in KDE settings22:15
Arwenwhat could be causing that?22:15
jpatrick!msgthebot > Jahromeo22:15
flipstarArwen: on hardy ?22:15
BluesKajwell, I think I'll try another clean install , waiting around is not my forte , I'll just uninstall language-pack updates before i reboot ...just hope some here which ones have to be  deleted :P22:15
Arwenflipstar, yeah22:16
BluesKajsome here know, that is22:16
flipstarArwen: try "ln -s ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde ~/.gtkrc-2.0" and then run firefox22:16
Arwenhey, it works22:17
Arwenyou're GODLIKE22:17
BluesKajoops , I forgot I was on the live cd :)22:17
sebastian_hätte ne frage wegen meinem internet22:18
jpatrick!de | sebastian_22:19
ubotusebastian_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de22:19
rjb*sigh* looks like i will need to boot windows in order to transfer large files to/from my phone22:21
rjbor buy a memory card reader and pop the micro sd back and forth22:21
ErtainHello everyone.22:22
ErtainFor some odd reason my computer keeps freezing up.22:22
ErtainI don't know why.22:22
_dennisterok, in case other pps run into this problematic update of language packs, here's one fix I'm gonna try: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-kde-en/+bug/187602 and the ubuntuforums thread on the same topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695801&highlight=language+bug22:22
_dennisterbut i have to log out of kde4 to try it...be back soon22:22
lordraydenhi, is there a guide for configuring wine for windows games? I tried google and it didn't work22:22
tzangergood evening22:22
tzangertell me, is it possible to take a debian install and "convert" it to the latest kubuntu?22:22
ErtainI'm running Kopete, along with normal programs, but it doesn't look like anything is amiss.22:23
jpatricktzanger: no22:23
tzangerjpatrick: ok22:23
jpatricktzanger: too much of a binary diff22:24
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:24
tzangerI wasn't sure if it was debian with a huge usability layer over top of it or what ;_)22:24
tzangerer :-)22:24
lordraydenok, let's take it simple, after I install wine do I have to do extra configuration to plai windows games? or is it out of the box?22:25
omeowAdept just installed a list of updates and now I can no longer type a double quote. If I try it, then a / appears instead. What happened? My keyboard layout did not change. It's still set to what it was. US int.22:26
lordraydenis there a tutorial 4 that?22:26
|FT|Cry_Wolfanyone here?22:28
jpatrick!hi | |FT|Cry_Wolf22:29
ubotu|FT|Cry_Wolf: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!22:29
|FT|Cry_Wolfi need some help with the instalation of kubuntu, its giving me an input/output error at about 57% install22:31
lovrehi all22:34
lovrewhen i run a movie with kaffeine, when the subtitles are big and go over the movie itself, the kaffeine and the whole computer blocks, or flitches... Why is this and how to fix?22:35
BluesKajok, is it the language-pack-en-base that's the conflicting and offending package that's breaking ppl's setups ?22:38
jpatrick!info language-pack-en-base22:39
ubotulanguage-pack-en-base (source: language-pack-en-base): translations for language English. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.10+20080205 (gutsy), package size 3482 kB, installed size 16400 kB22:39
Jahromeowhat is shortcut for katapult again22:40
Jahromeokeyboard shortcut22:40
BluesKajjpatrick:  is that the one that's breaking ppl's systems ?22:40
jpatrickBluesKaj: hardy?22:40
casper_hey i have a gimp question. how do i convert a selection to a layer?22:40
storbeckcasper_: #gimp22:41
dennisterok, fix i found in launchpad worked :)22:42
BluesKajdennister:  url /22:43
dennisterfor anyone who can't get into kde3, just do a console login, and then type in 'LANG="en_US.UTF-8" startx'22:43
casper_#gimp is completely dead. someone please help. ill just repeat the question: How do i convert a selection to a layer in gimp?22:44
dennisteri had typed in the ubuntuforums thread on this, and the launchpad url earlier, before i logged out22:44
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.22:45
tzangerkatapult is pretty nifty22:46
dennisterBluesKaj: have you been logged in here continuously since we last talked? if so, scroll up for the urls ^^22:46
BluesKajdennister: i just did this from the live cd and the languge pack was removed:  /media/target$ sudo apt-get remove language-pack-en-base22:47
dennisterBluesKaj: did it work for you? r u back in kde on your drive?22:48
BluesKajdo you think it'll work , cuz i can't even access the login page or the tty on my system22:48
BluesKajI haven't tried to reboot22:48
BluesKajstill on cd22:48
dennisteri don't know...can u get a console login?22:48
BluesKajdunno yet, i couldn't on the install22:49
BluesKajanyway here goes ..bbiab22:49
dogmaSalut tout le monde22:49
dennisterjust write down the phrase b4 you log out of livecd: LANG="en_US.UTF-8" startfx22:50
dennistertoo late :(22:50
dogmahmm how can i install windows messenger on kubuntu? it's the first time i use it22:51
dogmaplz :)22:51
dogmait's maybe not possible22:52
SlimeyPeteuse gaim or pidgin or kopete for msn chat.22:52
hydrogengaim is pidgin22:52
hydrogenso you can't use one or the other22:52
SlimeyPetecan too - older versions of kubuntu call it "gaim" ;)22:53
dogmawhen i launch kopete that's crash22:53
dogma(sorry for my english it's my main language)22:53
SlimeyPetetry pidgin then22:53
niall_you need to get the updates22:53
niall_to fix kopete22:53
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dennisterdogma: pidgin is good...it replaces all the instant messengers in one22:54
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boggystudios is there a tutorial on how to customize edubuntu (or any other linux distro) to a particular school?22:54
dogmait's include with kubuntu?22:54
dennisterdogma: yes22:54
niall_dogma: have you got all the updates?22:54
dogmai dont sure ^22:55
niall_did you get any?22:55
dogmai'm on linux since 10 minutes22:55
dennistersome versions of kubuntu, anyway, the more modern ones22:55
jules223anyone here got kubuntu running on a macbook22:55
niall_there should be a icon of a box with a ! on it, in the bottom left22:55
niall_click that22:55
niall_and click check for updates22:55
Jahromeoanyone willing to help me with emerald themer for a second - cant seem to find out where i can browse the themes once its dls them - stupid question :P22:55
jules223i cant seem to get the onboard net card working22:55
dogmai'm gonna check22:56
flipstarJahromeo: use emerald-theme-manager :=)22:56
niall_bottom right I mean22:56
phobesWhat's the Kubuntu equivalent way to Ubuntu's monitor that lets you search for open files?22:56
Jahromeoi am flipstar - i cant seem to see where it saves em to once its done - edit just got the error - calling tar?22:56
flipstarno.. .emerald22:57
flipstarno.. ".emerald"22:57
JahromeoIm using settings > emerald theme manager22:58
Jahromeoi cant see to see where it puts the themes once i click fetch themes22:58
dennisterokiedoke...i'm going to rest my back with a nap...if BluesKaj comes back in, the fix to get back into kde after the language-pack-upgrade problem is ^^^^^22:58
dennisteror for anyone else...cya soon22:58
Jahromeois there any app that allows me to install my current install on my 4gb flashdrive?22:59
Jahromeokind of like norton ghost in windows22:59
rickestJahromeo: partimage23:00
rickestJahromeo: I don't know if it's like norton ghost, tho23:00
Jahromeoit will allow me to install my customized kubuntu = e.g. my current desktop to a flashdrive @ rickest23:01
sourcemakerkde is blocking /dev/dsp... how can I fix this?23:01
flipstarJahromeo: i get the same message when using this..try http://kde-look.org and download by yourself ..23:02
crimsun_sourcemaker: adjust artsd's timeout in System Settings23:02
Jahromeothanks flipstar23:02
dogma_maw dont found the icon for updates ^23:02
rickestJahromeo: partimage makes a backup of your whole partition so it's at least similar23:02
rickestJahromeo: the advantage of partimage over dd is it only backs up data (dd backs up every byte, data or no)23:03
jules223can someone tell me how to select a network device in kubuntu23:03
rickestjules223: meaning what by 'select'?23:03
jules223under the device tap of Knetworkmanager is says no active device23:04
sourcemakercrimsun_: fast response... fast solution... problem solved... thanks a lot :-)23:04
Jahromeothanks rickest23:04
Jahromeois there any way to kill an app or see whats running - like in windows its ctrl+alt+del23:04
rickestJahromeo: in KDE I believe it's CTRL-ESC23:05
Jahromeothanks perfect @ rikest23:05
dogma_can you say how to find the icon upadte in kubuntu easily plz? ^^23:05
lordraydenany fixes on the yahoo->kopete file transfer?23:06
rickestjules223: not really familiar with the network manager, sorry. maybe someone else can help23:06
Jahromeodogma what are you trying to update23:06
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dogma_kopete ^^23:08
dogma_because when i try to coonect on messenger that crash23:08
Jahromeohmmm how bout removing it then re-installing?23:10
flipstarapt-get --reinstall install23:10
flipstaror use adept23:10
dogma_no i dont know to use konsol23:11
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash23:11
derdui_Hi does anybody know a voice changing tool for skype?23:12
not|rootHi. What repo is vmware-player in?  apt won't let me reinstall. :-/23:13
not|rootbetter yet, how would I find out for myself?23:13
LjLnot|root: it's not available in Gutsy23:13
flipstar!vmware | not|root23:13
ubotunot|root: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers23:13
not|rootUh, I need vmware-player to use quicken to pay bills.23:14
flipstaryou could download it from the vmware website23:15
flipstarand follow the instructions23:15
swattoanybody know anything about setting up my keyboard to open my 2 CD-Trays and close them again23:15
not|rootI guess I'll have to do that, then. :-/23:15
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flipstarnot|root: there are also others..23:16
not|rootOr I could move the VM to a different machine.23:16
flipstar!virtualizers | not|root23:16
ubotunot|root: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications23:16
Jahromeoi liked virtualbox23:16
not|rootAll of my data is in the vmware VM at the moment.23:16
not|rootI'll just put the VM on my laptop I guess.23:17
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ubotuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim23:17
ol_dude67hey i went to install kdm and it didnt install right now i cant get apt-get to work at all it keeps errorring out on me, how do i fix it?23:18
MrJoeyIs there a FAT (filesystem) equivalent of ntfsclone?23:18
MrJoeyol_dude67> Try sudo apt-get update and see what happens23:19
MrJoeyYou can also try sudo apt-get -f install or sudo apt-get clean all23:19
Jahromeowhere can i find the kde control center?23:19
swattotype kcontrol23:19
ol_dude67MrJoey, , it errors too i already tried the update23:19
MrJoeyOpen the terminal and type 'kcontrol' :)23:19
MrJoeyHave you tried clean all, then update?23:19
MrJoeyupdate just updates the package listings; it doesn't upgrade everything.23:20
sMonkI need some help, again. I just tried to boot my system, and when I try to log on, it gets to the second stage of loading KDE and the screen goes black and kicks me back to login prompt. When I tried to do a console start, it says it checks the conf.0.log and then the conf file, then it shuts down the XServer. Any Ideas?23:20
Jahromeois there a default mac os type option for taskbar - or do i need to install kiba-dock?23:20
flipstarsMonk: you need to unintall the latest translation pack update ..23:20
sMonkok, how do I do that from console may I ask?23:21
sMonkOr should recovery mode do it?23:21
yao_ziyuansilly question: does linux need a software firewall?23:21
beautifulsnowNot really23:22
Jahromeoi still like ipcop/smoothwall for my networks :P23:22
nosrednaekimsMonk» "sudo apt-get remove language-pack-base language-pack-en"23:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about languagepack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:22
beautifulsnowQuestion: Does anyone know how to tell Konversation to run /nickserv identify PaSsWoRd when I connect to a server?23:22
flipstaryao_ziyuan: until you dont run a server you dont really need a firewall..23:22
nosrednaekimbeautifulsnow» yeah... just a sec23:22
yao_ziyuanflipstar: ok23:22
beautifulsnowTanks nosrednaekim23:23
flipstaryao_ziyuan: tr https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 .. all your ports should be closed :)23:23
Jahromeoi know how to do it when it starts23:23
nosrednaekimbeautifulsnow» settings->identities23:23
Jahromeobut im looking in meu caus i dont want to quit23:23
beenerfor sum reason if i leave my computer idle for around 5 hours it logout by itself, which is a problem because i use it as a n alarm, anyone know how to fix this23:24
derdui_does anybody know a voicechanging tool for skype?23:24
nosrednaekimbeautifulsnow» make the Service "NICKSERV" and the password..... your password ;)23:24
Jahromeoguys is there a default option for a max osx type taskbar in kcontrol - or do i need to dl something like kiba-dock?23:24
nosrednaekimJahromeo» you need kiba dock, or awn or kooldock23:25
Jahromeok i will go compile kiba23:25
Jahromeokooldock is bad23:25
beeneractualy it happend within 3-5 hours23:25
BanTamcan someone help me get MergedFB working?23:26
BanTamive pulled out all but 1 hair on my head today trying to get it working with my dual monitors23:27
dogma_Jahromeo i dont arrive to answer i'm no registered23:27
dogma_ :s23:27
pcmaxSysinfo for 'PCMAX': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643500+ at 1000 MHz (2393 bogomips), , RAM: 994/1011MB, 115 proc's, 3.14h up23:28
beautifulsnownosrednaekim thanks, i was wondering why the heck they asked for a service, i thought "IRC" DOH!23:28
pcmaxUptime: 3 hours and 15 minutes23:28
Jahromeowow need 40mb of downloads to install kiba23:28
nosrednaekimJahromeo» GTK?23:28
Jahromeohttps://www.homeinc.de/int/index.php - following that23:28
nosrednaekimpcmax» thats nothin..... my brother's mythTV backend has 125 days :)23:28
Jahromeounless you have an ubuntu tutorial somewhere23:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:29
beeneror at least someone point me to the power saveing stuff to see if its in there (but im not sure why it would log out???)23:29
pcmaxsudo apt-get install openarena23:29
Jahromeohttps://www.homeinc.de/int/index.php - using that as my basis nosrednaekim23:29
Jahromeoits written by one of the compiz-fusion guys -ghostcube23:29
BanTamdoes anyone know anything about MergedFB?23:30
nosrednaekimprobably good enough23:30
ArwenBanTam, me23:30
Arwenwhat do you need>?23:30
BanTamOh thank God23:30
BanTamok i followed the howto on how to set it up..23:31
beautifulsnowI love K/Ubuntu like... like... my first born to be :P <3___<323:31
BanTambut im a little confused about the instructions23:31
Arwenwell, for starters, paste your xorg.conf and walk through the steps you've taken so far23:31
BanTamtheres my xorg.conf23:33
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ArwenBanTam, ok, and what are you trying to accomplish?23:34
BanTamwhat confuses me is, in the device section, am i adding the settings for the 2nd monitor (the one im trying to add)  or for my MAIN monitor, and for the Monitor section, am i adding the settings to reflect on my MAIN monitor or the 2nd?23:34
BanTamim trying to get my dual monitors working BOTH with 3d acceleration23:34
BanTamim currently using xinerama (thats not the xorg.conf file in using for xinerama though..23:35
dogma_i've downloaded again kopete but i dont where must i click there a lot a files i understand nothing...23:35
dogma_on windows we must click on .exe files and on kubuntu how can i install a software?23:35
ArwenBanTam, under Monitor/Screen, you enter in the settings for your first display23:36
Arwenand then you add the rest of the settings in Device23:36
Arwenvia Blah2Option23:36
ArwenI see two problems with your xorg.conf so far23:36
ArwenMetamodes should be "Horiz1xVert1-Horiz2xVert2"23:36
BanTamthe device section, should reflect which monitor? main or 2nd?23:37
ArwenMonitorLayout "CRC, CRT" doesn't look right either23:37
ArwenCRT, CRT*23:37
nosrednaekim!packages | dogma_23:37
ubotudogma_: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!23:37
Arwen20000 packages, some of which ought to be phased out :-P23:38
BanTam[6:37:32 pm] <Arwen> CRT, CRT*  <--shouldbe a  * and not " ?23:38
Arwenno, that was a correction of a typo I made23:39
Arwenhow are your monitors hooked up?23:39
nosrednaekimArwen» actually,its upwarsd of 25000 now23:39
BanTamhow about : Metamodes should be "Horiz1xVert1-Horiz2xVert2"  i enter that? or the #'s23:39
dogma_ ^^23:39
Arwenthe numbers23:39
Arwenlike 1280x1024-1280x80023:39
BanTamive got the #s in there23:39
ArwenBanTam, look at the syntax more carefully23:40
dogma_i deep in sh*t ^^23:40
BanTamoh sorry i see should be n  x23:40
Arwen"1024-768" "1024-768"  <-- should be 1024x768-1024x76823:40
nosrednaekimflipstar» hardy or gutsy?23:40
BanTamthanks for pointing that out23:40
flipstarehm hardy..23:40
Arwenyou also don't need "MergedNonRectangular" since they're the same rez23:40
nosrednaekimflipstar» well.... almost 25000 :)23:40
flipstarjep :P23:41
BanTamand the monitor section you say should reflect the MAIN monitor correct?23:41
Arwenthe CRT2Whatever options reflect your secondary23:41
BanTamso that SHOULD work then?23:41
BanTamwith those changes?23:41
BanTamOh how about my drivers ? is the fglrx driver ok?23:41
Arwenwell, your monitorlayout setting looks dodgy23:41
Arwenand you can't use it with fglrx, only atu23:42
sMonknosrednaekim: so if I do: "sudo apt-get remove language-pack-base language-pack-en"  Won't that mess up all my fonts? or no?23:42
BanTamwell i will give it a whirl and see what happens thanks so much. will let you know what hapens23:42
ArwenBanTam, wait!23:42
nosrednaekimsMonk» certainly not your fonts...it just removes the canadian english dictionaries...23:43
sMonknosrednaekim: or should i dpkg?