[00:01] <bdmurray> Flannel: okay, I think mentioning the alternate CD scenario would be useful.
[00:01] <Flannel> bdmurray: Yeah, I thought about it afterwards and figured I'd include it in any follow ups.
[00:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195616 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195616
[00:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194328 in bloboats (universe) "Please sync bloboats 1.0.1.dsfg-2 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194328
[00:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194329 in libast (universe) "Please sync libast 0.7-2 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194329
[00:10] <ubotu> New bug: #194380 in kadu (universe) "Please sync kadu 0.6.0~rc3.1-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194380
[00:10] <ubotu> New bug: #194597 in postfix (main) "Please sync postfix 2.5.1-1  (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194597
[00:15] <ubotu> New bug: #195621 in file-roller (main) "Please sponsor file-roller 2.21.92 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195621
[00:16] <ubotu> New bug: #194646 in xine-lib (main) "Please sync xine-lib (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194646
[00:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195624 in hal (main) "Cheese" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195624
[00:41] <ubotu> New bug: #193846 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Office Communicator web access shows blank page" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193846
[00:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195629 in ubuntu "erratic mouse behaviour when typing too quickly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195629
[00:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195630 in ubuntu "Can't change permissions on a folder with nautilus." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195630
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #194797 in ubuntu "[kubuntu hardy] Cannot set volume higher than 48% with hot keys" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194797
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195633 in exo (universe) "Thunar can't show the chinese filename in the usbdisk with a ntfs partition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195633
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #195634 in gnome-games (main) "Please sponsor gnome-games 2.21.92 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195634
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #194132 in ubuntu "What is needed to receive TV documentaries with sound on my computer.?The other questions 1 and 2 is solved Thank you." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194132
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195637 in evolution (main) "Evolution window placement" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195637
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195638 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "[Regression] [HARDY] Gnome not catching battery button press & other keys" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195638
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195639 in jockey (main) "Hardware Drivers is empty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195639
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195641 in linux-meta (main) "[Hardy] linux-image-virtual does not depend on latest kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195641
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #188985 in crystalspace (universe) "csbench crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188985
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195642 in update-manager (main) "Hardy Heron 8.04 Upgrade From Gutsy Fails on 'apport' upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195642
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194765 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_prepend()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194765
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195643 in linux (main) "[Hardy] No sound with linux-image-2.6.24-10-virtual" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195643
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195647 in language-pack-kde-en (main) "language-pack-kde-en packages break KDE for canadian english users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195647
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195649 in exo (universe) "failure to eject video cd/dvd & data cd/dvd using button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195649
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #195650 in evolution (main) "Calendar startup and close immediately after 3 Warning that can not open Notize (from a not existing CALDAV)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195650
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195289 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythfrontend.real crashed with SIGSEGV in XSetTile()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195289
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194085 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythtv in gutsy does not work when started at boot" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194085
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195653 in exo (universe) "A error message pop up when eject usbkey or mmc card from thunar sidebar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195653
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #194219 in collectd (universe) "[needs-sync] collectd  (4.3.0-1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194219
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195657 in fast-user-switch-applet (main) "fast-user-switch applet crashed after kdm login to gnome account" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195657
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #194573 in thunderbird (main) "sound in thunderbird" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194573
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #195658 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Status icon shows AC power and full battery when logging in while on battery power" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195658
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195659 in update-manager (main) "Could not calculate the upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195659
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #195661 in cupsys (main) "[hardy alpha 5] package cupsys 1.3.5-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195661
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #158515 in ubuntu "nvidia 7300 driver problem" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158515
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195663 in aptitude (main) "aptitude crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 177377)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195663
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195666 in ubuntu "[Hardy alpha 5] - need to be able to disable bootsplash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195666
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #195667 in libc "libc need to be updated due to sscanf bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195667
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #194690 in chromium (universe) "L1 - die simultaneously with boss, become a ghost on level 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194690
[05:50] <calc> what package do gnome clipboard issues belong to?
[05:50] <techno_freak> can some one look at bug #184998 and change the importance? it has been confirmed and lying there for so long
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195668 in rhythmbox (main) "Coundn't access file:///" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195668
[05:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184998 in libwnck ""Move To Another Workspace:" moves to Desk 3 in Desk 2 when selectin Desk 1 in Compiz" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184998
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195669 in hal (main) "pc running at low resolution " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195669
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #194538 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice wordprocessor smehow disabled spellcheck" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194538
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194359 in openoffice.org (main) "[Hardy] Get a  WARNING **: Invalidate all children called" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194359
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194400 in openoffice.org (main) "attached file open garbled in linux OO, fine on windows OO" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194400
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195673 in kernel-package (main) "kernel-package build incomplete header package for 2.6.24" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195673
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195674 in ubuntu "hibernate not restoring after prolong sleep" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195674
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195675 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "displayconfig-gtk shows empty selection in its window" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195675
[06:22] <ubotu> New bug: #194013 in openoffice.org (main) "[Hardy] font rendering in openoffice not consistent with other applications" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194013
[06:22] <ubotu> New bug: #194452 in openoffice.org "Quotes don't show in pdf" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194452
[06:22] <ubotu> New bug: #195671 in openoffice.org (main) "Open Office Fonts in KDE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195671
[06:22] <ubotu> New bug: #195672 in ubuntu "When I save a file a second file is created" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195672
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #195676 in preload (universe) "preload.log has wrong permissions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195676
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195677 in gnome-terminal (main) "No text in top menu items" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195677
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195679 in pidgin (main) "pidgin does not have "Save" button to save browser preferences" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195679
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195680 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[hardy] segmentation fault when adding a new group" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195680
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #195681 in update-manager (main) "when trying to upgrade after initial install to upgrade and update was told other application was active, but there was only the upgrade running that I had initiated and non-others running!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195681
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #195682 in ubuntu "Metacity Doesn't Automatically Start Without Compiz Installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195682
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #195684 in anjuta (universe) "anjuta 'New From Existing Sources' should hide the 'Create Folder' Button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195684
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #194314 in acpi (main) "Fujitsu hangs trying to resume from suspend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194314
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195685 in clamav (universe) "[clamav] [CVE-2007-6595] [CVE-2008-0318] execution of arbitrary / DoS vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195685
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195688 in libimager-perl (universe) "[libimager-perl] [CVE-2007-2459] buffer overflow which could allow the execution of arbitrary code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195688
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195689 in splitvt (universe) "[splitvt] [CVE-2008-0162] privilege escalation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195689
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195690 in ocsinventory-agent (universe) "Package deployment action store not working." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195690
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195691 in ubuntu "[dspam] [CVE-2007-6418] programming error leading to information disclosure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195691
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195692 in wordpress (universe) "[wordpress] several remote vulnerabilities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195692
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #194711 in ubuntu "[Hardy] Startup hangs on "Mount Root File System"" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194711
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195693 in iceape (universe) "[iceape] several vulnerabilities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195693
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #194714 in ndiswrapper (main) "[Hardy] ndiswrapper does not function with 2.6.24-8." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194714
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195695 in turba2 (universe) "[turba2] [CVE-2008-0807] programming error in permission testing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195695
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195696 in sword (universe) "[diatheke] [CVE-2008-0932] insufficient input sanitising" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195696
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195698 in firefox (universe) "Multiple proxy authenticacion windows appear when restoring a saved session " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195698
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #195699 in ubuntu "Hardy Heron Alpha 5 installer misplaces 'Suomi' in language list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195699
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195700 in xine-lib (main) "[xine-lib] [CVE-2008-0486] possible buffer overflow in the FLAC audio demuxer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195700
[08:58] <thekorn> against which package should I report a wrong hint in this "command-not-found" tool?
[08:59] <thekorn> "activation-client" is not in libbonobo2-common anymore but in libbonobo2-bin
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195703 in ubuntu "Thinkpad Ultrabay produces a fatal hang when unplugging devices on a T61" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195703
[09:01] <seb128> thekorn: no need to open a bug I would say
[09:01] <seb128> thekorn: the database is updated every now and then and you are using an unstable distro
[09:02] <seb128> thekorn: just wait for the next update, the bug will not bring any value
[09:02] <thekorn> seb128, ah ok
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195704 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] LilyKDE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195704
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195705 in totem (main) "Hardy Alpha5: Totem crashes when switching between streams (radio channels )" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195705
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #195706 in apport (main) "opened launchpad page not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195706
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #193971 in tmispell-voikko (main) "FeatureFreeze exception: Please sync tmispell-voikko 0.7-1 from Debian sid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193971
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195710 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.87.9 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195710
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195711 in network-manager (main) "Time to upgrade ?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195711
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #194098 in ndisgtk (universe) "ndisgtk 0.8.2 bugfix release / merge ndisgtk 0.8.2-1 (universe/main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194098
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195715 in evince (main) "Evince crashed while selecting a value in a select box (PDF Formular)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195715
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194804 in console-setup (main) "unable to use alphabetical chars with Slovene keyboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194804
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194927 in casper (main) "Error: Could not launch application: Not a launchable item" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194927
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195716 in gcalctool (main) "Please sponsor gcalctool 2.21.92into hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195716
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #194730 in grub (main) "GRUB's three seconds delay unnecessary if only Ubuntu is installed" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194730
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195717 in debian-installer (main) "Debian Daily Feb-26, '08  i386  " netinst " Get Stuck at 65% - Configuring ssl-cert" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195717
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195718 in pidgin (main) "aptitude install of finch on heron requires X11 deps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195718
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195719 in ubuntu "no sound on thinkpad T61" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195719
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195720 in ubuntu "Recovery Menu should not allow root access without login." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195720
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195721 in driconf (universe) "glxinfo crashes after login  ( systemfreeze ) " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195721
[10:48] <hggdh> bdmurray?
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195724 in ubuntu "[FFe] Please sync eeepc-acpi-scripts 1.0 from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195724
[10:53] <hggdh> ALL: it is my understanding that apport-opened bugs are Private, and they should stay this way either (a) until the core dump has been removed, or (b) forever, if other private data is recorded. Now, generically, the apport-generated bugs will not have any other private dta apart from the core dump. SO... should we unset Private after apport-retrace has run, and filled in the nice stack traces we need?
[10:53] <hggdh> I have been doing that, but would like to be sure
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #187769 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in gst_switch_sink_reset" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187769
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #190441 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190441
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195727 in dstat (universe) "--nocolor does not turn colors off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195727
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195728 in pulseaudio (main) "pulseaudio doesn't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195728
[11:04] <hggdh> pedro_: please see may question above
[11:04] <seb128> hggdh: no, the detailled backtraces can have passwords, etc
[11:05] <seb128> hggdh: it should stay as private until somebody has carrefully read the stacktrace and make sure there is no private datas there
[11:05] <persia> hggdh: It's important to review the contents before setting public.  If anything looks suspicious, better to err on the side of caution.
[11:05] <pedro_> hggdh: i don't see the question, can you paste it?
[11:05] <hggdh> seb128, persia: read you 5/5, and will comply
[11:05] <pedro_> bonjour seb128
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #184197 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184197
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #185829 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in strncpy()" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185829
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #185920 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in purple_ssl_close()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185920
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194403 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Random 4-way scroll button behaviour with Alps touchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194403
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195729 in ubuntu "bootup-sequence fails to detect qemu graphics card and resolution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195729
[11:06] <hggdh> pedro_: it related to maintaining or taking out the Private tag on bugsa
[11:06] <seb128> hello pedro_
[11:07] <hggdh> all of this started because of a daily crash on pidgin... went to look for duplicates, and found tens of pidgin bugs with incomplete description ("pigdin crashed with sigsegv", no top-of-stack function name), and noted a lot of them are Private
[11:08] <hggdh> which may well create many duplicates
[11:10] <persia> Doesn't apport have access to private bugs for duplicate checking?
[11:10] <hggdh> yes, to my knowledge
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #183881 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in out_cmd" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183881
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195730 in amsn (universe) "Font size not occording to default setting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195730
[11:11] <hggdh> but those that apport failed will still not be marked as such
[11:15] <persia> Ah.  Right.  In that case, I suspect we have to either manually merge them, or be certain there isn't any private information.
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195733 in ubuntu "sync terminator 0.8.1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195733
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195737 in compiz (main) ""open" animation should be set to glide 2, not glide 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195737
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #194249 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "atieventsd crashed with SIGSEGV in _XSend()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194249
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #194598 in gnome-terminal "wrong exit_action value when creating new profile" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194598
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195627 in nautilus (main) "High CPU Usage, Hang when opening Samba share" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195627
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195644 in gnome-chess (universe) "gnome-chess crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195644
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195742 in beaglefs (universe) "Please sync beaglefs 1.0.3-2  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195742
[11:47] <ubotu> New bug: #194198 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "linux kernel overwrites menu.lst causing bad boot" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194198
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #194651 in file-roller (main) "File Roller cannot extract .ace files (dup-of: 80775)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194651
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195744 in gnome-applets (main) "Drawers don't open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195744
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195745 in apport (main) "package apport 0.98 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195745
[11:56] <eblan> hello from russian ubuntu users)
[11:57] <persia> kubuntolog: Hello.
[11:57] <kubuntolog> in this place i can tell about some anoying bugs?)
[11:58] <persia> kubuntolog: You could, but it's best to report them to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs in order to make sure people see them.  If you're working on triaging them, here's a good place to ask for advice.
[11:59] <kubuntolog> persia: all bugs what i know is in launchpad)
[11:59] <kubuntolog> but how to fix them?)
[11:59] <persia> kubuntolog: The you are in exactly the right place.  The next step is to track it down, and get enough information for a developer to fix it.  Which bug would you like to try first?
[11:59] <kubuntolog> one bug don't fixed 2 years...
[12:00] <kubuntolog> one moment
[12:00] <kubuntolog> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/39414
[12:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 39414 in linux-source-2.6.15 "syslog is flooded with messages after connecting bluetooth usb dongle" [High,Fix released]
[12:01] <kubuntolog> i bought bluetooth adapter yesterday, and syslogd was flooded about 2 Gb logs))
[12:02] <persia> kubuntolog: That one is reported as already fixed.  For kernel bugs, it is often useful to open a new bug for each type of hardware (or do you have it with "Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0400:080a National Semiconductor Corp."?
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #195749 in linux-source-2.6.22 "java hangs then crash in libc6/kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195749
[12:02] <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies may provide some guidance on the specific information the kernel team prefers in a new bug.
[12:03] <kubuntolog> persia: same usb-adapter) But, if bug was fixed, how to use the patch?)
[12:04] <persia> kubuntolog: Reviewing that bug history, I'm less confident it is really fixed.  Hold on...
[12:05] <kubuntolog> ok, i'm waiting)
[12:07] <kubuntolog> this is a really old bug, but in ubuntu version of kernel he wasn't fixed yet...
[12:09] <kubuntolog> i don't want to compile vanilla kernel)
[12:10] <persia> kubuntolog: Based on the buglog and absence of comment by the individual marking the bug "Fix Released", and further reports against the release following the reported fix, I'm opening a task against the current kernel package.
[12:11] <persia> I'm not a kernel person, but we can hope that one of them will be able to determine either that it is a bug (and fix it), or that it is not a bug in the kernel, and redirect to the appropriate location.
[12:11] <persia> Thanks a lot for discovering this, and please stay subscribed to the bug and follow any guidance from the kernel developers to ensure that a fix becomes available.
[12:11] <kubuntolog> persia: thanx) What do I do?
[12:11] <kubuntolog> persia: i'm subscribed already
[12:11] <kubuntolog> ))
[12:12] <persia> kubuntolog: For that one, if you are up for hacking the kernel package, you could try preparing a patch and talking about it in #ubuntu-kernel, but there's not much more to do other than raising attention that it may have been closed in error.
[12:14] <persia> You mentioned a few, what's another: maybe that one will have an easier triage route.
[12:14] <kubuntolog> persia: ok) I'm not experienced user, i meet kubuntu 5 months only
[12:15] <persia> kubuntolog: No problem.  New people are always welcome, as there are lots of bugs that need more eyes.
[12:15] <kubuntolog> persia: oh eyah)
[12:15] <kubuntolog> oops0
[12:15] <kubuntolog> yeah)
[12:16] <kubuntolog> persia: i know one more bug but i don't know how to describe it
[12:16] <persia> kubuntolog: OK.  Which package?
[12:18] <kubuntolog> persia: this is about my kubuntu desktop. When i copy many files on ~/Desktop - he freezes. What means, i can click on icons, but desktop don't show changes after deleting files from desktop or copy new files on it
[12:18] <persia> Anybody know which package provides the kubuntu desktop to help kubuntulog find the bug?
[12:19] <kubuntolog> persia: and my english is too bad, i can't correctly to describe that bug...
[12:21] <persia> kubuntolog: Generally I find the best practice is to first figure out which program has the bug.  Then, search launchpad to try to see if someone else reported it.  If all else fails, report a bug against the package, and include a description of the steps to take, the expected result, and the observed result.
[12:21] <persia> Generally this type of report is easy for others to confirm, and easy for a developer to process.
[12:22] <kubuntolog> persia: ok, but about which package i'll try to search?
[12:23] <persia> kubuntolog: That's why I asked the question above.  Maybe the KDE documentation can give you a hint as to what provides the desktop?
[12:23] <kubuntolog> persia: i'll see documentation)
[12:25] <kubuntolog> persia: oh, i quite forgotten... My girlfriend has laptop Asus X50N and i can't install Ubuntu on it
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #195665 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV after vmware install" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195665
[12:26]  * Iulian looks around
[12:26] <Iulian> Hey!
[12:27] <persia> kubuntolog: Installer bugs are hard.  Sometimes it's the kernel, and sometimes it's something else.  I'm not sure how to help you with that (but I am impressed that you keep finding hard bugs)
[12:27] <secretlondon> there is a debugging kde page
[12:27] <persia> secretlondon: Where?
[12:27] <persia> secretlondon: Also, Do you have any ideas about bug #39414 (you were the immediately previous commenter to the person marking it Fix Released).
[12:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 39414 in linux-source-2.6.15 "syslog is flooded with messages after connecting bluetooth usb dongle" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39414
[12:28] <persia> hah: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKDE
[12:28] <kubuntolog> persia: i think laptop's chip not suppoted or videocard not supported, i'll try install Hardy in april, but now she uses vista - that sux!!
[12:29] <secretlondon> Iulian: hi
[12:29] <Iulian> Hi there ;)
[12:29] <Iulian> Uhumm, no bug hugged?
[12:30] <secretlondon> persia: its a link on the debigging procedures wiki page
[12:31] <secretlondon> persia: i'll look at the bug
[12:38] <InsClusoe> Iulian: Hi.. Just saw the bug day page..
[12:39] <InsClusoe> Iulian: How to validate ubiquity bugs? It's seems very difficult to me.
[12:40] <InsClusoe> That partly explains not many of them have been hugged.
[12:44] <secretlondon> persia; I have no idea re: bug #39414, my comment is from 2006. it clearly isn't fixed htough
[12:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 39414 in linux-source-2.6.15 "syslog is flooded with messages after connecting bluetooth usb dongle" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39414
[12:45] <persia> secretlondon: That's what I thought.  It's just nice to get confirmation from someone who'd seen the bug before.  Thanks for checking again.
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #195757 in ubuntu "ps -aux command hangs and not displaying proccess tree" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195757
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195758 in openoffice.org (main) "OfficeWriter jumps to other line" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195758
[12:56] <Iulian> InsClusoe: Sorry, I was hugging some bugs. You should try to recreate the bugs in Hardy and change the status to: Confirmed if you have the same bug. If there is not enough information provided, ask for more (take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity) and set the status to: Incomplete.
[12:57] <InsClusoe> InsClusoe: Yeah.. But for each bug in Ubiquity, wiill you run the installer and verify? Man, that sounds so time consuming.
[12:58] <Iulian> InsClusoe: Aww, no, not really.
[12:58] <Iulian> I am taking the "Incomplete" bugs first.
[12:58] <InsClusoe> ok..
[12:58] <Iulian> But some of them are reported a long time ago without enough information.
[12:59] <Iulian> And in this case we should change the status to Invalid with the right response from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[13:00] <InsClusoe> Hmm...
[13:00] <Iulian> Also you can ask them to recreate the bugs with Hardy.
[13:01] <InsClusoe> ok...
[13:02] <InsClusoe> A lot of people have had their partitions altered during the install.. Feel bad for them! :-(
[13:03] <Iulian> Yeah...
[13:07] <ubotu> New bug: #195760 in hotkey-setup (main) "volume steps too big" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195760
[13:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195762 in ubuntu "USB Mass Storage Devices not mounting, device not accepting address, error -32" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195762
[13:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195763 in ubuntu "Unresponsive application dim gray, didnt regain color after become responsive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195763
[13:13] <Iulian> Mmmh, lots of bugs. I hope we'll get some help soon..
[13:18] <InsClusoe> Iulian: Looking at bug #130463. I believe this should not be in open status. Its not a bug.
[13:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 130463 in ubiquity "Installer does not inform user that it can setup a dual boot system with operating systems like Windows" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130463
[13:21] <Iulian> InsClusoe: It is marked as Wishlist but it seems that no one knows about it.
[13:21] <Iulian> Well, just set the status to Confirmed and let the bug alone.
[13:21] <pedro_> it's a valid bug
[13:22] <pedro_> take a look to the activity log
[13:22] <pedro_> evand (ubiquity developer) set the importance to Wishlist so it may be valid for him
[13:22] <InsClusoe> pedro_: oh.. ok.. :-)
[13:24] <Iulian> It was marked as wishlist on 10 September by him.
[13:25] <Iulian> And recently Mantas assigned to Baltix.
[13:26] <InsClusoe> ok.. I changed it to confirmed as a Ubiquity developer has marked it under wishlist.
[13:26] <Iulian> Okay
[13:27] <ubotu> New bug: #195764 in unifont (main) "Build script produces incomplete font properties in bdf file." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195764
[13:27] <ubotu> New bug: #195767 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (main) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195767
[13:27] <Iulian> I'm afk for a few minutes.
[13:27] <Iulian> Lunch..
[13:28] <InsClusoe> ok..
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195771 in totem (main) "crash when parsing dvb channel file" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195771
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195772 in matplotlib (universe) "[needs-packaging] please upgrade python-matplotlib to version later than 0.90.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195772
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195773 in f-spot (main) "[f-spot] use proper folders" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195773
[13:42] <ubotu> New bug: #193961 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "gnome-mount does not mount luks encrypted usb-drive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193961
[13:42] <ubotu> New bug: #194032 in debian-installer (main) "Install hangs on SILO using a LDom on a T5220" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194032
[13:42] <ubotu> New bug: #195768 in ubuntu "Bad battery runtime in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195768
[13:42] <ubotu> New bug: #195769 in glibc (main) "man pages for pthread_rwlock-* missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195769
[13:42] <ubotu> New bug: #195770 in ubuntu "cd in drive fails to mount" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195770
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195774 in gdm (main) "GDM login mask changed to wrong design" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195774
[13:51] <InsClusoe> pedro_: Bug #187437 was logged for Kubuntu Gutsy. And reporter has also mentioned that this does not exist in Kubuntu Hardy Alpha 3.
[13:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187437 in ubiquity "Installer missing graphics" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187437
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #195777 in zope-cmfplone (universe) "Plone javascript firing off spurious requests to https://0 in IE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195777
[13:54] <pedro_> InsClusoe: what about a Fix Released there? :-)
[13:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195778 in gnome-panel (main) "System crash periodically with Compiz (especially using firefox)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195778
[13:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195781 in dragonplayer (universe) "please sync Dragon Player to 2.0.1 in hardy kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195781
[13:56] <InsClusoe> pedro_: Never thought about it.. But was that ever acknowledged as a bug in the first place? :-)
[13:57] <InsClusoe> I have never attempted a  Kubuntu install myself.
[14:05] <ubotu> New bug: #195783 in icedtea-java7 (universe) "I see only a gray Applet Box" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195783
[14:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195782 in ubuntu "No scanning functions of HP F2180 in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195782
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195784 in labplot (universe) "Please sync 1.6.0.1 with debianSync request." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195784
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195785 in tcllib (universe) "snit 2.1 contained in tcllib 1.9.dfsg1-1 incompatible with tcl/tk 8.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195785
[14:18] <InsClusoe> wel.. gotta go... zero bugs for the day so far. :-$
[14:19] <Iulian> I have to make them green.
[14:19] <Iulian> Bye!
[14:19] <Iulian> Ohh, too late.
[14:20] <Iulian> Btw, what status should I set to bug 134719 ?
[14:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134719 in ubiquity "ubiquity eat 100% CPU in Kubuntu 7.10 Tribe 5" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134719
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194875 in ubuntu "SIS 661/671 FX driver,SIS 190 ethernet driver, Atheros 5006/5007 EG driver (dup-of: 195474)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194875
[14:22] <Iulian> I was thinking to set the status to fix released but I can't confirm it.
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #194864 in f-spot (main) "F-Spot crashes with SIGSEGV on open" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194864
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195787 in ubuntu "One volume mounted by truecrypt, nautilus shows two volumes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195787
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195788 in ubuntu "Evolution 2.21.92 (hardy) crashes when attaching MS-Office files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195788
[14:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195790 in ubuntu "do-release-upgrade failed on gusty -> hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195790
[14:58] <bddebian> Boo
[14:58] <secretlondon> hi
[14:58] <bddebian> Hello secretlondon
[15:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195792 in acl (main) "getfacl display some characters as escaped octal in username" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195792
[15:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195793 in kdebase (main) "Crash before install on vmware" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195793
[15:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195789 in linux "Forcedeth causes problem on SUspend / Resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195789
[15:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195795 in ubuntu-dev-tools (universe) "what-patch isn't accurate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195795
[15:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195796 in zenity (main) ""zenity --question"  does not return code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195796
[15:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195798 in ubuntu "Nautilus: Impossible to change case of filename/extension in Windows Share" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195798
[15:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195799 in smplayer-themes (universe) "Please sync smplayer-themes 0.1.15.dfsg-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195799
[15:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195800 in evolution (main) "[Hardy] Evolution not available because evolution-common not installable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195800
[15:42] <jjesse> i wonder if tthe 5 bug a day team is actually making a dent in all the bugs that are in launchpad?
[15:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194130 in ubiquity (main) "[out of memory] installer crashed cause: timezone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194130
[15:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194256 in kmyfirewall (universe) "[FFe request] Please sync kmyfirewall 1.1.1-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194256
[15:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194260 in ubiquity (main) "installer hangs after keyboard selection" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194260
[15:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194661 in ubiquity (main) "hardy alpha5 broadcom wireless install loops infinitely (dup-of: 188282)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194661
[16:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195765 in gvfs (main) "The LATEST CHANGES GOT WORSE - gvfsd-sftp crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195765
[16:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195805 in ubuntu "Keyboard stops responding in X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195805
[16:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195806 in purrr (universe) "please update purrr to version 0.8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195806
[16:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195808 in python2.5 (main) "package python2.5 2.5.2-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.5/site.py', which is also in package python2.5-minimal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195808
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #194210 in fldigi (universe) "Latest version on the fldigi website is 2.09" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194210
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #194438 in kmediafactory (multiverse) "8.04: Update to new KMediaFactory 0.6.0 for KDE4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194438
[16:19] <bdmurray> hggdh: yes?
[16:20] <hggdh> bdmurray, already resolved, but thanks to follow up. It was a question on the "Private" setting of bugs, but seb and persi a answered it.
[16:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195812 in hipo (universe) "[FFe request] Please sync hipo 0.6-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195812
[16:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195813 in ubuntu "python update failed with:'import site' failed; use -v for traceback " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195813
[16:20] <bdmurray> hggdh: okay, great!
[16:25] <Iulian> Blah! When I go to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ I'm getting a Timeout error.
[16:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195746 in python-central (main) "pycentral crashed with PyCentralError in read_version_info()" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195746
[16:25] <Iulian> OOPS-787EA60
[16:26] <DB42> my apt database borked, what can i do ?
[16:26] <bdmurray> Iulian: try it w/o edge maybe?
[16:26] <Iulian> bdmurray: I'm trying now.
[16:28] <Iulian> No, it does not work. I am a member of LP Beta Testers and I'm automatically redirected to edge servers.
[16:29] <bdmurray> go to launchpad.net and choose disable redirection for 2 hours
[16:31] <Iulian> Still doesn't work. I have to go to bugs.launchpad.net and choose ubuntu project from there.
[16:33] <jjesse> interesting having no problems w/ edge right now :)
[16:34] <Iulian> That's weird.
[16:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195814 in ubuntu "wi fi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195814
[16:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195815 in pyopengl (universe) "[hardy] python-opengl installs broken symlinks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195815
[16:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194412 in samba (main) "mksmbpasswd, called from samba postinst, should not create Samba user for user with uid <1000" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194412
[16:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195816 in squeeze (universe) "New upstream bugfix release (0.2.3)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195816
[16:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195817 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "screens closed unexpectedly (dup-of: 144769)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195817
[16:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195818 in ubuntu "Error whith dist-upgrade : erreur de traitement de /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.5_2.5.2-0ubuntu3_i386.deb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195818
[16:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195820 in yelp (main) "blocage de la mise à jour vers ubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195820
[16:51] <bdmurray> Yeah, I finally found an untriaged bug!
[17:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195822 in hdparm (main) "Hardy hdparm does not honour power management options, leading to premature disk failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195822
[17:04] <bdmurray> evand: bug 188282 is really a kernel bug right?
[17:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 188282 in wireless-tools "hardy install alpha4 loops: broadcom: no firmware file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188282
[17:05] <evand> that or jockey
[17:05] <evand> bdmurray: ^
[17:05] <ubotu> New bug: #195823 in python2.5 (main) "site.py missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195823
[17:05] <bdmurray> evand: right, thanks
[17:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195824 in wine (universe) "Wine crashes when ran from any folder other than build directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195824
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #194640 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Sponsor 2.21.92" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194640
[17:15] <ubotu> New bug: #195825 in thunderbird (main) "thunderbird-bin crashed with SIGSEGV during ADS directory authentication" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195825
[17:16] <bdmurray> evand: Bug 187163 could be confirmed as the installer still talks about /etc/apt/sources.list correct?
[17:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187163 in ubiquity "Message in GUI installer talks about apt and sources.list" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187163
[17:18] <Iulian> What status should I set to bug 134719 ?
[17:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134719 in ubiquity "ubiquity eat 100% CPU in Kubuntu 7.10 Tribe 5" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134719
[17:18] <Iulian> I was thinking to set the status to fix released but I can't confirm it.
[17:19] <evand> bdmurray: that looks a gutsy bug
[17:19] <evand> I believe mvo and cjwatson fixed the lack of a network connection problem in hardy
[17:20] <bdmurray> evand: okay, I'll test it just to be sure then..
[17:20] <evand> Iulian: I'd ask for them to try the latest CD, and provide logs if they're still seeing it on that one
[17:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194727 in ubiquity (main) "[Hardy alpha 5] Live CD does not display release notes when clicked in installer mode" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194727
[17:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195827 in ksniffer (universe) "[needs update] ksniffer needs update to version 0.3.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195827
[17:21] <Iulian> evand: Ok, thanks!
[17:27] <ubotu> New bug: #195828 in purrr (universe) "[FFe] Please upgrade purrr to 0.8.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195828
[17:27] <ubotu> New bug: #195829 in ubuntu "Skype crashes on Ubuntu Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195829
[17:31] <ubotu> New bug: #194652 in firefox (universe) ""Open Containing Folder" option doesn't work on Firefox" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194652
[17:39] <bdmurray> evand: I was unable to recreate bug 190036 is there a button labelled "Go back"?
[17:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 190036 in ubiquity "Illogical response to "New partition table" in alpha4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190036
[17:40] <evand> bdmurray: yes, I'll check it out momentarily
[17:51] <evand> bdmurray: ok, I've confirmed that bug and marked it as such.
[17:58] <ubotu> New bug: #195836 in firefox-3.0 (main) "netvibes.com rendering broken in last firefox 3 update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195836
[18:00] <ubotu> New bug: #195834 in ubuntu "[Hardy Alfa 5] Ati fglrx graphic is slow, diagonal lines and slow refreshes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195834
[18:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195841 in openoffice.org (main) "can't update template name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195841
[18:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195844 in texlive-extra (main) "[hardy] request for updated csquotes package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195844
[18:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195848 in vpnc (universe) "vpnc with Hybrid-Auth enabled?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195848
[18:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195851 in evolution (main) "deleted emails reappear periodically" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195851
[18:24] <bdmurray> evand: the new menu item when booting the live cd labelled "install ubuntu" doesn't load a full desktop and requires less memory, is that right?
[18:25] <evand> correct
[18:26] <bdmurray> Is there a minimum amount required for that install method?
[18:26] <evand> bdmurray: I don't believe we've come up with one.
[18:27] <ubotu> New bug: #194818 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany-gecko crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194818
[18:28] <bdmurray> Okay, if we find bugs like 114599 should we ask them to test hardy using that install method then?
[18:28] <bdmurray> bug 114599
[18:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114599 in ubiquity "Ubiquity installer is unusable on Dell Latitude L400 with 256MB RAM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114599
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #192236 in xchat-gnome (main) "xchat-gnome crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192236
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #195811 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195811
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #195833 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195833
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #195852 in ubuntu "Fails to start up the hardy-alpha5 installer" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195852
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #195853 in ubuntu "Fails to start up the hardy-alpha5 installer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195853
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #195854 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox or Swiftfox will not start at all" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195854
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #195855 in firefox (universe) "[hardy] firefox-3.0-dev has no files!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195855
[18:29] <ubotu> New bug: #195810 in libmms (universe) "Hardy Alpha5: Totem-gstreamer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195810
[18:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195857 in xchat (universe) "flashing systray icon is not beautiful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195857
[18:33] <ubotu> New bug: #195837 in linux-meta (main) "fglrx 8.02 corrupts kdm login screen on Radeon X300SE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195837
[18:40] <evand> bdmurray: I'll do a test with 256MB and let you know.
[18:41] <bdmurray> evand: I'm testing it now
[18:41] <evand> oh, fantastic
[18:41] <ubotu> New bug: #157518 in anjuta (universe) "anjuta crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_moz_embed_realize()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157518
[18:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195858 in dragonplayer (universe) "[FFe] Dragon Player 2.0.1 (bugfix only release)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195858
[18:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195859 in kde-guidance (main) "not updating battery state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195859
[18:45] <ubotu> New bug: #195635 in ubuntu "no sound - unbuntu 7.10 on Dell Vistro" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195635
[18:45] <ubotu> New bug: #195849 in gnochm (universe) "gnochm crashed with ImportError: could not import bonobo.ui" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195849
[18:45] <ubotu> New bug: #195860 in kima (universe) "kima tool tip disappears" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195860
[18:47] <ubotu> New bug: #195839 in update-manager (main) "Hardy alpha 5 upgrade uninstalled nfs-common" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195839
[19:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195861 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Quassel IRC Client" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195861
[19:09] <bdmurray> evand: 256M worked fine.  Do you think it would be worthwhile to test with less?
[19:10] <yuriy> bdmurray: is there a way to ask bugnumbers to filter on bugs *not* having a tag?
[19:10] <evand> bdmurray: indeed, the thought occurred to me, to make sure we're not right on the edge with 256, and I'm running a test with 192.
[19:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195862 in ubuntu "rdesktop freezes machine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195862
[19:10] <bdmurray> evand: okay great
[19:12] <bdmurray> yuriy: No and that sounds like something that might be worth adding.
[19:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195863 in gedit (main) "sl-modem-deamon i can"t open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195863
[19:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195864 in ubuntu "synaptic touchpad moves sporadically, ubuntu 8.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195864
[19:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195865 in cfingerd (universe) "Merge cfingerd 1.4.3-2 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195865
[19:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195866 in evince (main) "evince crashes while scrolling fullscreen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195866
[19:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195868 in tuxpaint (main) "savedir option doesn't work as expected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195868
[19:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195869 in gnome-panel (main) "package gnome-panel-data 1:2.21.92-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195869
[19:37] <greggory> what is ubiquity?
[19:38] <evand> greggory: the live CD installer
[19:38] <greggory> oh spledid, what a simple answer :)
[19:38] <greggory> thanks!
[19:39] <secretlondon> the alt cd is debian installer
[19:40] <greggory> ok, so I'm pretty new to this stuff, what can I do to get started with things like triage?
[19:40] <greggory> oh, good to know, thanks
[19:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125765 in anjuta (universe) "anjuta crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125765
[19:43] <bdmurray> greggory: What release of Ubuntu are you using and what types of things are you interested in?
[19:44] <greggory> I've just been playing around with upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04.  I'm really just interested in helping out with whatever I can given my specific hardware.  I mostly want to get more involved in the ubuntu community
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #195870 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus' Side Panel should detect the pane's size." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195870
[19:47] <bdmurray> greggory: Not all bugs are hardware specific, some are just software bugs and can be recreated without needing any special hardware.
[19:50] <greggory> cool, where can I find a process that I need to follow to address new bugs, or what do I need to do to help?
[19:51] <james_w> greggory: find a bug that no one has triaged yet, and then try and reproduce it, and ask the submitter for any more information that is needed to work out what is happening.
[19:52] <bdmurray> greggory: This wiki page has some good information too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[19:52] <james_w> if you can reproduce it then set it to "confirmed". Any information you can add, or get from the submitter that helps identify what is causing the bug is useful.
[19:54] <bdmurray> And if you have any questions about a specific bug feel free to ask.
[19:54] <secretlondon> launchpad timing out for anybody else?
[19:55] <bdmurray> not me
[19:55] <secretlondon> on edge I can't load https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #194798 in parallels (partner) "parallels no longer works after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194798
[19:57] <james_w> secretlondon: edge does seem a lot slower for me.
[20:01] <ubotu> New bug: #194950 in ubuntu "any attempt to start any Open Office application causes document recovery attempt" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194950
[20:05] <ubotu> New bug: #195874 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome's panels cannot autohide horizontally" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195874
[20:05] <ubotu> New bug: #195875 in rhythmbox (main) "Duplicate tracks added to library after pluging in ipod" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195875
[20:15] <ubotu> New bug: #195877 in ubuntu "Problemas al arrancar con una batería dañada" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195877
[20:19] <jjesse> do you guys ever find yourself triaging bugs reported from a particular individual or do you mostly triag bugs based on source?
[20:26] <jjesse> what status should i set a bug the initial requestor says is now working on a current version?  fix released or invalid ?
[20:26] <jjesse> they don't know exactly what fixed the problem besides an upgrade to a more current version of kubuntu?
[20:26] <secretlondon> jjesse: I never do on an individual - often on what's come in, otherwise on a hug I'll do a package, sometimes I'll go and love random bits of universe
[20:27] <secretlondon> jjesse: invalid I think
[20:27] <jjesse> half the time i do it fix released half the time i do it invalid
[20:27] <secretlondon> I use fix released when we've deliberately fixed it
[20:28] <jjesse> any others?
[20:28] <secretlondon> we have a wiki page on status somewhere
[20:29] <Iulian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[20:29] <secretlondon> Iulian: ty
[20:30] <jjesse> hrm don't think that actually covers my question, the bug has been "fixed" by an upgrade
[20:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195878 in tomboy (main) "Tomboy hangs on HTML Export" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195878
[20:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195879 in apt (main) "/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195879
[20:36] <ubotu> New bug: #195880 in ubuntu-meta (main) "ubuntu-standard doesn't depend on libpam-foreground" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195880
[20:36] <Iulian> I have to go now, see you tomorrow.
[20:36] <Iulian> G'night
[20:36] <secretlondon> bye Iulian
[20:38] <bdmurray> jjesse: was there a root cause of the bug?
[20:38] <bdmurray> If we don't know what specifically fixed it Invalid is more appropriate in my opinion.
[20:40] <secretlondon> bdmurray: that's generally how I deal with "random upgrade fixed it"
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195883 in iscsitarget (universe) "iscsitarget init.d script contains bashisms" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195883
[20:46] <jjesse> bdmurray: sorry stepped afk, the user didn't know what the route cause of the problem was but an upgrade fixed it... marked invalid due to it being fixed
[20:49] <bdmurray> jjesse: no problem, out of curiousity what bug was it?
[20:50] <jjesse> bdmurray: trying to remember worked on a lot today
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195887 in totem (main) "Automatic subtitle loading should also load e.g. aaa_cz.srt for aaa.avi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195887
[20:51] <ubotu> New bug: #156214 in gdebi "gdebi should have a "refresh" option." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156214
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195889 in proftpd "should not depend on update-inetd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195889
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195891 in proftpd "deprecated option in default config: "DisplayFirstChdir"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195891
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195892 in ubuntu "Installer Partitioner Very Slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195892
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195893 in proftpd "Should consider using ssl-cert" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195893
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195894 in ubuntu "Installer Partitioner Cannot Skip Scan" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195894
[21:02] <ubotu> New bug: #193811 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193811
[21:18] <bdmurray> evand: How did you 192MB test go?
[21:19] <evand> bdmurray: poorly
[21:19] <evand> I'm trying to figure out what the lower bound is, it seems to be very close to 256 unfortunately
[21:20] <evand> my test might not be entirely fair, I'm not using a disk with swap space on it already, nor am I creating swap space in the partitioner.  But I imagine someone will try to partition without swap space using our minimum requirement.
[21:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195904 in python-central (main) "update-manager crashed during the update of apport (dup-of: 195551)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195904
[21:21] <ubotu> New bug: #195905 in ubiquity (main) "migration-assistant page shown when there are no options" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195905
[21:22] <ubotu> New bug: #194757 in language-pack-cs (main) "Nové návrhy na překlad šablony files-and-docs v balíku kubuntu-docs" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194757
[21:22] <ubotu> New bug: #195906 in nis (main) "ypbind slows startup incredibly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195906
[21:22] <ubotu> New bug: #195907 in irpas (multiverse) "Ass (irpas package) crashed after ctrl-c termination" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195907
[21:22] <ubotu> New bug: #195908 in seahorse (main) "seahorse-agent not invoked for second ssh key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195908
[21:23] <ubotu> New bug: #195901 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "please sync nvidia-glx-new to new release 169.12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195901
[21:23] <ubotu> New bug: #195902 in ubuntu "Update caused problems with klauncher" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195902
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #195913 in dialog (universe) "Please sync dialog 1.1-20071028-3 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195913
[21:42] <ubotu> New bug: #194136 in kde-guidance (main) "Brightness Special Buttons doesn't work in a UPI Laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194136
[21:42] <ubotu> New bug: #194780 in kde-guidance (main) "[hardy] power manager does not suspend/hibernate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194780
[21:44] <ubotu> New bug: #194925 in ubuntu "I can't mute fully." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194925
[21:50] <ubotu> New bug: #195915 in gnome-panel (main) "removing notification area from the panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195915
[21:54] <yuriy> creating these bug tables really eats up some time :-\ i hope they actually get used this time
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195918 in ubuntu "ATI prop.driver on Hardy 64bit result in no screen output" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195918
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #195919 in gaim "gaim interrupts the connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195919
[21:59] <synic> anyone know Felipe Venegas?
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195921 in gnome-menus (main) "Please sponsor gnome-menus 2.21.92 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195921
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #195922 in ubuntu "Hardy Heron updated 2.6.22-14.52 frostwire fails to launch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195922
[22:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195924 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Evolution does not save sent mail properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195924
[22:16] <ubotu> New bug: #195926 in ubuntu "Compiz not working on new Hardy upgrade today" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195926
[22:18] <bdmurray> evand: only-ubiquity is the command line option for the "non-live" installer right?
[22:19] <evand> bdmurray: yes
[22:19] <bdmurray> After the installation finishes it is possible to click the "Continue using Live CD" button and then be taken to a full desktop.  Is that by design?
[22:20] <evand> hrm, probably not
[22:21] <evand> now, if you cancel the installer when in only-ubiquity mode, it goes to the live CD desktop.  That is by design.
[22:22] <bdmurray> Right, I did this after the installation finished.
[22:23] <evand> Ah, could you file a bug and assign it to me?  Thanks
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #195928 in ia32-libs-gtk "Missing gtk+ ia32 compatibility libs break stock icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195928
[22:30] <ubotu> New bug: #195931 in gnome-terminal (main) "Please sponsor gnome-terminal 2.21.92 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195931
[22:30] <bdmurray> evand: okay, it's all yours
[22:31] <evand> much appreciated
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195929 in ubuntulooks (main) "Cosmetic bug: rectangular white outline surrounding rounded buttons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195929
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195933 in subtitleeditor (universe) "Doesn't appear in Hardy's Applications menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195933
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #195934 in gpodder (universe) "gpodder won't start with error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195934
[22:40] <ubotu> New bug: #195936 in update-manager (main) "Small "F" in "Fetching file %d of %d at %s" " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195936
[22:57] <ubotu> New bug: #193985 in jockey (main) "jockey-kde crashed with AttributeError in ui_main_loop()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193985
[22:57] <ubotu> New bug: #195943 in ltsp (main) "mythbuntu: small update to ltsp plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195943
[22:57] <ubotu> New bug: #195944 in python-central (main) "pycentral crashed with PyCentralError in read_version_info() (dup-of: 195551)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195944
[22:57] <ubotu> New bug: #195945 in ubuntu ""Updates Available" icon from Tango clashes with "Crash Report Detected" icon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195945
[22:58] <ubotu> New bug: #195935 in ubiquity (main) "After installation using only-ubiquity mode "Continue using live CD" button works" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195935
[22:58] <ubotu> New bug: #195937 in compiz (main) "[Hardy] strange compiz behaviour " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195937
[22:58] <ubotu> New bug: #195939 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome sometimes forgets default mixer tracks device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195939
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195947 in sound-juicer (main) "Please sponsor sound-juicer 2.21.92 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195947
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195948 in debian-edu (universe) "can't install education-language and can't remove it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195948
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #195949 in vlc (universe) "VLC Arbitrary memory overwrite in the MP4 demuxer" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195949
[23:06] <ubotu> New bug: #195950 in python-central (main) "pycentral crashed with PyCentralError in read_version_info() (dup-of: 195551)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195950
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195951 in ubuntu "Couldn't display "network:///"." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195951
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #195952 in vlc (main) "gstreamer-properties default video out should be X Window System (No Xv)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195952
[23:19] <KaffeeTasse> hi @ all
[23:20] <bdmurray> Hello KaffeeTasse
[23:20] <KaffeeTasse> hi
[23:20] <ubotu> New bug: #195955 in python-central (main) "pycentral crashed with PyCentralError in read_version_info() (dup-of: 195551)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195955
[23:24] <bdmurray> calc: are you very familiar with time formatting in calc?
[23:26] <ubotu> New bug: #195956 in update-manager (main) "update-manager Getting upgrade prerequisites failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195956
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195957 in kdebase (main) "Feb 25 language pack update stops boot after login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195957
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #195958 in amarok (main) "crash when editing smart playlist linked to a dynamic playlist that is currently loaded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195958
[23:52] <ubotu> New bug: #195961 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "[Hardy] adjust time & date dialog vanishes completely after closing it in a certain way" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195961