CIA-24ubiquity: superm1 * r2497 ubiquity/ (7 files in 5 dirs): drop all references to mythappearance06:39
allerbestI've got a problem installing edubuntu on my brand-new machine (Xeon C2D, 8 GB RAM, 64 Bit Edubuntu 7.10, ARECA 1200/1201 RAID controller (SATA))10:25
allerbestThe guys from #edubuntu sent me over to here :)10:25
allerbestThe installer works fine until it asks me to pick a module for drive detection10:27
allerbestFor the Areca 1200/1201 this should be "arcmsr".10:27
allerbestThe module seems to load (syslog: disk-detect: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/scsi/arcmsr/arcmsr.ko10:28
allerbestbut the dialog pops up again, again asking to pick a module for drive detection ...10:28
cjwatsonone moment10:30
cjwatsonexactly what is the title of this dialog?10:30
allerbest[!] Festplatten erkennen10:30
allerbest:-) (German)10:30
allerbest(= drive detection, I guess)10:30
allerbestshould I reboot into English language mode?10:30
cjwatsonnot necessary, thanks10:31
cjwatson(a) I understand German (b) I can look up the exact text in the translation files :-)10:31
allerbestit is "Detect disks"10:31
allerbestAh, fine :)10:31
cjwatsonare you sure that's the title of the error dialog? that sounds like the title of the general installer step10:31
allerbestGruesse auf die Insel! :-)10:32
cjwatsonI was sort of expecting something like "Treiber werden für Ihr Laufwerk benötigt:"10:32
cjwatsonbut basically the problem is likely to be that even after loading that module no disk devices appear10:34
cjwatsoncould you extract the installer's syslog, using "Debug-Logs speichern" from the main menu, drop it onto paste.ubuntu.com, and post the URL here?10:34
xivuloncjwatson, can you think of any reason wht a USB modem with built-in USB mass storage (CDFS) might jam the boot sequence?10:42
xivulonI'd expect that if the device appears as a valid partition I might try to mount that when I scan for ISO preseed, but do not see why that would jam10:43
xivulonsorry jamming is not what happened, the user was thrown into busybox10:45
cjwatsonno, sorry - ask the kernel folks10:45
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allerbestIt is an installer step that pops up because ... "No disk drive was detected. If you know the name of the driver needed by your disk drive, you can select it from the list. Driver needed for your disk drive: .... continue with no disk drive // 3w-9xxx // ..."10:47
cjwatsonallerbest: right, need syslog then10:48
cjwatsonallerbest: oh, and the output of 'lspci -vvnn' if you can get it10:48
cjwatsonyou can run 'anna-install openssh-client-udeb' from tty2 and then you can scp files to another machine10:48
allerbest_this_ is great! just a moment ...10:49
allerbestcjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/4998/10:54
allerbestthat's it10:56
allerbest(including lscpi -vvnn10:57
cjwatsonallerbest: last thing, can I see the output of 'parted_devices' and 'list-devices disk'?11:00
allerbestparted_devices: empty11:01
allerbestlist-dev: empty11:01
CIA-24user-setup: cjwatson * r95 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog user-setup-udeb.templates): * Add the initial user to the fuse group.11:05
cjwatsonallerbest: ok, I have to direct you to #ubuntu-kernel then; the installer seems to be doing the right thing, and there's no error from the kernel, but the disk device simply isn't showing up11:06
allerbestcjwatson: Thanks for your patience.11:07
cjwatsonevand: could you merge/push your user-setup changes and start off a 1.16ubuntu4 changelog with my change? I just realised you'd already uploaded 1.16ubuntu3 but it wasn't in bzr11:10
CIA-24debian-installer: cjwatson * r880 ubuntu/ (37 files in 2 dirs): * Update help text translations from Launchpad.11:53
CIA-24debian-installer: cjwatson * r881 ubuntu/ (build/boot/x86/f4.txt.live debian/changelog):11:57
CIA-24debian-installer: * Copy the live CD F4 help text from gfxboot into syslinux display format11:57
CIA-24debian-installer:  (LP: #195564).11:57
CIA-24console-setup: cjwatson * r49 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog config.proto): * Set default layout for Vietnam to 'us' (LP: #191451).13:16
CIA-24console-setup: cjwatson * r50 ubuntu/ (Keyboard/ckbcomp debian/changelog): * Treat 'any' as a synonym for 'NoSymbol' in XKB input files (LP: #93077).14:00
evandwill do, sorry about that14:03
evandI thought I bound that branch, apparently not14:03
CIA-24console-setup: cjwatson * r51 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.21ubuntu314:11
CIA-24user-setup: evand * r97 user-setup.ubuntu/debian/ (changelog user-setup-udeb.templates): Forgot to push. Merge with trunk.14:14
cjwatsonevand: thanks14:20
CIA-24user-setup: cjwatson * r98 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.16ubuntu414:21
cjwatsonevand: any idea what's going on with bug 194727?14:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 194727 in ubiquity "[Hardy alpha 5] Live CD does not display release notes when clicked in installer mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19472714:23
evandlooking at it now14:24
evandyay zombie process14:29
evand/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/build-image-set: line 167: /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/run-germinate: Permission denied14:34
evandcjwatson: are you already aware of this? ^14:35
cjwatsonno ...14:36
cjwatsonwonder how that happened? fixed14:37
cjwatsonwhoa, it's wrong in bzr14:37
* cjwatson will fix harder14:37
cjwatsonsuperm1: looks like you changed the permissions on run-germinate in your branch; please pull my changes once I fix it14:37
cjwatsonsuperm1: (done)14:39
superm1cjwatson, okay thanks14:40
evandcjwatson: the Firefox issue appears to have been related a previous state of ubiquity-dm, but it's fixed with the latest changes to that file.14:42
evandI'll update the bug14:42
superm1sorry about that14:42
evandhrm, although14:42
superm1odd.  i didn't explicitly change them ever, that got pulled in last time i merged with mainline14:46
cjwatsonbzr log -v definitely blames your branch, but never mind :)14:48
xivulonevand does the new ISO fix kubuntu issues in wubi?15:05
evandxivulon: the new ones will15:06
xivuloni.e. tomorrow15:06
evanddailies were not generated yet today15:06
evandnot necessarily15:06
evandjust started ubuntu daily live CDs, I'll do a run of Kubuntu next.15:07
evandso we have a somewhat interesting problem in that we don't have a way of talking to network manager in only-ubiquity mode.16:19
evandI started looking at prodding it into selecting the first interface it finds using dbus, but that seems evil and unworkable in a number of circumstances.16:20
evandkeybuk pointed out that we could just use a lightweight notification area and actually launch nm-applet16:20
evandwhich lets the user decide, as well as lets them input ESSIDs and passphrases if need be16:21
evandI'm looking at the various options for that now16:21
evand(the problem was discovered by trying to view the release notes in only-ubiquity mode)16:22
cjwatsonFWIW I'm seeing the same problem outside only-ubiquity mode16:22
cjwatsona lightweight notification area doesn't seem unreasonabel16:23
cjwatsonbut I wonder what's wrong with what I have here - I had to add preexec_fn=drop_all_privileges but even then it breaks wih no obvious error16:24
evandcjwatson: wget ubiquity-dm from the latest ubiquity in the initramfs16:24
evandthat fixed it from me16:24
evand http://evalicious.com/tmp/ubiquity-dm to save you some time16:24
cjwatson*outside* only-ubiquity mode16:24
evandah, misread16:25
cjwatsonI can see it execing firefox16:25
cjwatsonah, it has HOME=/root16:28
cjwatsonperhaps drop_all_privileges should set HOME? I think you want that in all cases where drop_all_privileges is used16:29
evandsounds reasonable16:31
evandif SUDO_USER in os.environ: os.environ['HOME'] = '/home/%s' % os.environ['SUDO_USER']16:33
evandsomething like the above seem ok?16:33
cjwatsonI just tested os.environ['HOME'] = pwd.getpwuid(uid).pw_dir in the SUDO_UID block above, and that worked16:34
evandworks for me16:34
cjwatson(and 'import pwd' at the top obviously)16:34
cjwatsonso where would we need to talk to network-manager? do you mean to get the network set up at all?16:34
evandso that they can view the release notes, download language packs, etc16:34
* cjwatson reproduces bug 19332916:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 193329 in ubiquity "[Hardy] ubiquity hangs after language selection, until languagechooser is -KILL'ed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19332916:35
evandgah, it's back.16:36
cjwatsonI think I see the problem16:38
CIA-24ubiquity: jriddell * r2498 trunk/debian/changelog: changelog16:51
evandhow on earth...well, something is bringing up a network interface in only-ubiquity on the absolute latest live CDs16:53
evandthough I imagine the point about having a notification area still stands.  They could only have access over a WPA encrypted link.16:54
CIA-24ubiquity: cjwatson * r2499 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/language.py):16:56
CIA-24ubiquity: * Split iso_3166.tab lines by tabs, fixing an infinite loop on countries16:56
CIA-24ubiquity:  whose names contain more than one word (LP: #193329).16:56
cjwatsonI think it's only WPA where this is a problem16:56
cjwatsonAFAICS the bug that was filed is about firefox not showing up at all16:56
cjwatsondo you have the change for that in your working tree or shall I commit it?16:57
evandyou can commit it16:57
evandassuming you're talking about setting $HOME16:58
cjwatsonwell, that and dropping privileges16:59
CIA-24ubiquity: cjwatson * r2500 ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs):17:05
CIA-24ubiquity: * Drop all privileges and set HOME before launching a browser to read17:05
CIA-24ubiquity:  release notes (LP: #194727).17:05
CIA-24debian-installer: cjwatson * r882 ubuntu/ (9 files in 4 dirs): * Move to 2.6.24-10 kernels.18:15
CIA-24debian-installer: cjwatson * r883 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20070308ubuntu3018:19
* evand wonders aloud why autogen now requires cvs18:25
CIA-24ubiquity: evand * r2501 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): Bump to 1.7.1318:26
evandcjwatson: what was the method you used to determine the minimum memory requirement for install in the past?  bdmurray brought up the fact that we don't have a minimum recorded for the only-ubiquity mode.18:27
cjwatsoncvs> autopoint18:28
cjwatsonI think I just ran it experimentally with mem=256M etc.18:29
CIA-24ubiquity: evand * r2502 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/partman.py):18:29
CIA-24ubiquity: * partman/confirm_new_label is now partman-18:29
CIA-24ubiquity:  partitioning/confirm_new_label (LP: #190036).18:29
cjwatsonI suspect the autogen->cvs requirement is new because I made it actually run autopoint et al18:29
cjwatsonoops, my bad for not noticing that template change18:31
CIA-24ubiquity: cjwatson * r2503 ubiquity/debian/changelog: whitespace that made vim complain18:33
cjwatsonman, 2500 commits?18:33
cjwatsonactually, 536 of those were Guadalinex', but still18:34
evandheh, still quite fantastic18:35
CIA-24ubiquity: evand * r2504 ubiquity/ubiquity/components/partman.py: Add partman-partitioning/confirm_new_label to the regex for clarity18:35
evandwoo, just got my first real-world demonstration of the md5 checking when a copy failed to produce matching checksums the first time around.18:49
bdmurraycjwatson: would it be safe to close bug 89528?  They didn't provide the debugging information you asked for.19:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 89528 in ubiquity "Kubuntu installer crashed while scanning disks (step 5 of 7)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8952819:32
xivulonevand the chap with amd64 can install fine (except for a grub-install issue...)20:03
xivulondo you still have the amd64 crashes?20:03
evandI haven't tried with the latest images, but I'll give it a go in a bit.20:03
xivulonthere a couple of reports that seem to imply that menu.lst root is wrong when the user has multiple disk devices20:04
xivulonif that is confirmed it is going to be a major pain in the neck20:04
evandgetting that right is going to be pretty tricky, no?20:04
xivulonother bad news, was investigating a crash in the signature checking code, so I compiled with debugging signature...20:07
xivulonwhen I run it like that it does not crash...20:07
xivulonI hate those days20:07
evandI was just going to say exactly that20:07
xivulon^so I compiled with debugging symbols20:08
evanddebugging symbols will help quite a bit, assuming I can weasel Visual Studio into giving me a decent backtrace in the cases where Wubi has crashed for me.20:09
xivulonI have enabled debugging symbols for the plugins not for nsis (yet)20:10
xivulonbut in my case the crash was in metadl20:11
xivulonaccess violation20:11
xivuloneven though that can originate from nsis20:12
xivulonfor many things nsis is way closer to assembler than to a scripting language...20:12
xivulon^ 2008 scripting language...20:17
evandxivulon: I think you have a stale lock on wubi on launchpad.  Did you cancel a push?21:04
xivulonhm don't think so21:06
xivulonbut feel free to kill the lock21:07
evandwill do, thanks21:07
xivulonI will be home in a 1h21:07
evandbdmurray: ugh.  ubiquity fails in 256M under those conditions as well (no swap before or during install).21:47
evandmind you it probably will still work for that bug reporter as they'll most likely pick one of the autopartitioner options, all of which create a swap partition21:47
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macogwis ubiquity the same inside the live environment and when you pick the option that just goes straight to install on the hardy live cd?  i got different behavior23:21
CIA-24ubiquity: cjwatson * r2505 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog control rules): * Explicitly depend on ntfsprogs for NTFS resizing.23:40
cjwatsonbdmurray: ok, queued up for looking at tomorrow23:43
bdmurraycjwatson: I was looking at the ubiquity cluefile for bughelper and a lot of clues say TODO for you.  Could you see if those are still accurate?23:45
cjwatsonwhen I'm not about to go to bed, sure :)23:45
bdmurraycjwatson: Well of course.23:46
agowhere do I find supported keyboard variant codes?23:58

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