[00:53] <lns> for anyone who's interested, i wrote up procedures on how to create mandatory shared/global firefox bookmarks for all users
[00:53] <lns> http://lns.wikidot.com/firefoxglobalbookmarks
[00:53] <lns> this will be the only time i mention it ;)
[00:54] <LaserJock> heh
[02:07] <jsgotangco> yo LaserJock how are things?
[02:08] <LaserJock> interesting
[02:09] <jsgotangco> lol
[02:11] <LaserJock> very very busy
[02:13] <jsgotangco> same here :)
[03:16] <boggystudios> I stepped out for a bit
[03:17] <boggystudios> johnny: What I mean is I want to creat a custom variation of edubuntu with a different theme, custom repository, custom bootsplash, all that jazz
[03:18] <boggystudios> johnny: the end result would be a disc that I can pop in a machine and install a particular school's distro
[03:51] <jsgotangco> nice lp uses postgres
[06:26] <achandrashekar> hello I wanted to point out that smbldap-installer that moquist wrote gave a lot of fits on 7.10 install. However, the how-to-forge guide works flawlessly. The main issue that I have with the isntalled is the soft boot no entry..and I had a lot of trouble with how the installer configures smb.conf. I wanted to point this out because it will leave a system from booting correctly.
[06:27] <achandrashekar> So its a an FYI..and I was able to replicate the issue..everytime i used the installer
[06:27] <achandrashekar> My suggestion is to use the howtoforge guide availble..it works flawlessly
[06:27] <achandrashekar> In addition the ldap-client configuration also has issues.
[06:27] <kgoetz> achandrashekar: have you told moquist about the problem/s?
[06:28] <achandrashekar> since edubuntu primarily makes use of the ldap.conf...it no longer uses lbnssswitch.conf
[06:28] <achandrashekar> so the installer tries to do an install against that.
[06:28] <achandrashekar> i cant get a hold of moquist..because im pretty busy during the day
[06:28] <achandrashekar> but hoping someone could pass this on.
[06:29] <kgoetz> hes just over there *points* - send him a PM
[06:29] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: is that ltsp channel? as in "there"?
[06:30] <kgoetz> achandrashekar: "there" is 'in this channel as we speak'
[06:31] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: sorry a little confused here.. i dont seem to see his name in the channel
[06:32] <achandrashekar> woops i see him
[06:32] <kgoetz> achandrashekar: i can tab complete his name, so he is in here. (unless your not actually talking about moquist )
[06:32] <achandrashekar> no..its moquist indeed.
[06:32] <achandrashekar> just offline i suppose..
[06:33] <achandrashekar> so basically send him a private message?
[06:33] <kgoetz> or email. the key bit is that you need to tell him if his script is busted
[06:35] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: ill be happy to.
[06:35] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: one of the key issues right of the bat, is that slapd.pid is not created and hence the ldappopulate breaks
[06:36] <achandrashekar> but i will definitely let him know
[06:36] <achandrashekar> by email or whatever means
[06:36] <achandrashekar> however... as stated before
[06:36] <achandrashekar> the definitive working guide...the how-to-forge guide works flawlessly
[06:37] <achandrashekar> and is well written.
[06:37] <achandrashekar> and mught save quite a bit of time simply to script that.
[06:37] <achandrashekar> :)
[06:37] <kgoetz> thanks for letting us know :)
[06:37] <achandrashekar> np...i spent a week on that
[06:37] <achandrashekar> and some sleepless nights wonder what I did wrong.
[06:38] <achandrashekar> but I started all over..and the guide that is how to forge worked first time -
[06:39] <achandrashekar> this is what i am referring to - http://www.howtoforge.com/openldap-samba-domain-controller-ubuntu7.10
[06:40] <achandrashekar> and for clients this is VERY IMPORTANT as 7.10 no longer makes use of the libpam.conf or libnss.conf https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[06:40] <achandrashekar> I really think that the main wiki for setup of  ltsp setup such that it uses ldap-auth should refer to those
[06:41] <achandrashekar> and im not sure who to talk to to change or append the guide
[06:41] <achandrashekar> this will keep many people happy in NOT having to spend hours to figure out what the lock up issue is for klog daemon on bootup
[06:41] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: know who appends such guides?
[06:45] <kgoetz> no i dont
[06:46] <achandrashekar> i see....no problem...
[06:46]  * kgoetz had the problem with libpam.conf and libnss.conf too
[06:47] <kgoetz> achandrashekar: actuallyk, ping #ubuntu-doc
[06:47] <kgoetz> and ask them about it
[06:47] <achandrashekar> the last guide and most definitive for infrastructure setup is the following - https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDHCPload-balancingFailover
[06:48] <achandrashekar> However from a strategic stand point of setup for standalones, there are some methodical steps
[06:48] <achandrashekar> Id suggest this - 1) setup up BOTH standalones 2) get smb ldap working with shared home drives 3) do the dhcp failover
[06:48] <achandrashekar> in that order
[06:48] <achandrashekar> ;)
[06:49] <achandrashekar> and hence added to the docs for handbook
[06:49] <achandrashekar> but ill suggest that in ubuntu-doc
[06:49] <achandrashekar> with the afore mentioned links above
[06:50] <achandrashekar> I certainly appreciate all the help though...and the documentation is really what got me figured out.
[06:50] <achandrashekar> Ill post progress of our infrastructure in days to come.
[06:50] <achandrashekar> :)
[07:04] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: a bit quiet in the channel..and I might have to try during the day.
[07:05] <kgoetz> achandrashekar: be patient
[07:05]  * kgoetz off home
[07:05] <achandrashekar> no issues.
[07:06] <achandrashekar> ;)
[07:58] <RichEd> achandrashekar: i suggest you (1) mail ogra & cc sbalneav or (2) edit the wiki page yourself !
[07:58] <RichEd> for option (1) i'll msg you the email addresses
[07:58] <achandrashekar> great.
[07:59] <RichEd> but option (2) is better ... if you've spotted an inconsistency from personal experience, you're the best one to explain to others :)
[07:59] <achandrashekar> and Im considering a bit of write up and I can have it reviewed before publication.
[08:04] <RichEd> achandrashekar: if you accurately describe what you experienced, in such a way that it would have helped you, then that's the best review
[08:04] <achandrashekar> Id be happy to do that
[08:05] <achandrashekar> it should take a day or so..but I will formulate all of my thoughts effectively
[11:55] <ogra> ***** meeting reminder, edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 2min *****
[11:56] <stgraber> right, I'll be there but only for the tech part
[11:56] <stgraber> then I have to go to an edubuntu deployement :)
[11:57] <ogra> heh
[11:57] <ogra> ***** meeting reminder, edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting starts now *****
[13:48] <xivulon> ogra, stgraber please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57575/
[14:07] <ogra_cmpc> xivulon, yeah, thats fine
[14:07] <ogra_cmpc> as i said, i wont cry :)
[14:18] <xivulon> ogra_cmpc: sorry for that, will try to make it up to you in the next release
[14:53] <Nubae> is there a reason why some computers would get stuck during the pxe boot process after the ................ done.
[14:53] <Nubae> and then continue after a minute or 2
[14:53] <Nubae> ?
[14:53] <ogra_cmpc> boot without quiet and see what they are doing :)
[14:54] <ogra_cmpc> in the pxe config
[14:54] <Nubae> hmmm yeah didnt think of that
[14:55] <ogra_cmpc> i have seen delays with clocksource detection during kernl unpacking
[14:55] <ogra_cmpc> check for that
[15:44] <alumno10> hi all, I tried a coreduo as a client and youtube still see slow
[15:44] <alumno10> the server is a amd 1,2ghz but now i was using just core duo client, so . whats the problem?
[16:37] <LaserJock> I suppose we had the early meeting today?
[16:39] <ogra_cmpc> yup
[16:40]  * ogra_cmpc wonderws what he did to his classmat ... its unusual fast
[16:40] <stgraber> :)
[16:40] <LaserJock> ogra_cmpc: I uploaded 5 squeak packages to NEW last night
[16:40] <LaserJock> I had to do quite a lot of work
[16:40] <ogra_cmpc> yeah, saw that
[16:40] <ogra_cmpc> many many thanks for that
[16:40]  * ogra_cmpc hugs LaserJock 
[16:42] <LaserJock> I even put in transitional packages and did a test upgrade
[16:42] <LaserJock> it actually worked ;-)
[16:43] <ogra_cmpc> wow
[16:43] <ogra_cmpc> !
[16:43] <ogra_cmpc> you see me impressed
[16:43] <LaserJock> it'll close 10 bugs
[16:43] <LaserJock> that was fun to put in the changelog ;-)
[16:43] <LaserJock> anyway, hopefully the archive admins take it
[16:44] <LaserJock> it's a messy set of packages
[16:46] <LaserJock> and I *finally* got to send a "It's all fixed" email to gcompris-devel
[16:46] <LaserJock> and went through their "test suite" on Hardy and everything's looking pretty good
[19:32] <alumno10> hi all
[19:32] <alumno10> is there a problem with intel gigabit integrated adapter and ubuntu?
[19:42] <alumno10> wake up all
[19:48] <johnny> ogra_cmpc, !
[19:48] <johnny> initial patch for fixing sabayon
[19:48] <johnny> or rather.. sabayon in xnest
[19:51] <johnny> libxklavier patch
[20:09] <alumno10> johnny, i just have to change chroot kernel by a newer one?
[20:10] <alumno10> *have->can
[20:10] <alumno10> english isn't my main language
[20:12] <johnny> huh
[20:12] <johnny> to a newer one ? sure?
[20:12] <johnny> but why are you asking me?
[20:12] <johnny> i don't really know how
[20:15] <johnny> ogra, ogra_cmpc http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516318
[20:15] <ubotu> Gnome bug 516318 in plugins "crash when run inside xnest (keyboard plugin)" [Normal,New]
[20:15] <johnny> pawtch attached
[20:17]  * ogra_cmpc hugs johnny 
[20:18] <alumno10> somebody can watch fluidly youtube in clients?
[20:20] <johnny> i'd say there are two real bugs that need to be solved for sabayon to be usable truly
[20:21] <johnny> at least.. registered so far that is
[20:21] <johnny> one, is allowing panel applets to be removed and added.. or modified
[20:21] <johnny> the other is the mozilla bookmarks merge
[20:22] <johnny> i'm going to be focusing on the panel applets one when i get more time
[20:22] <ogra_cmpc> but both were not in former versions
[20:22] <johnny> ?
[20:22] <ogra_cmpc> and both are whishlist items
[20:22] <johnny> they've been active bugs up til now
[20:22] <ogra_cmpc> right
[20:22] <johnny> they are not wishlist imo
[20:23] <ogra_cmpc> but they are no regressions to what we had in former releases
[20:23] <johnny> that is true
[20:23] <ogra_cmpc> since both are features that didnt work yet
[20:23] <johnny> but that doesn't satisfy me :)
[20:23] <ogra_cmpc> right, but if the fix requires big changes they are unlikely to get past the release amangers
[20:26] <ogra_cmpc> the firefox import sounds like a critical candidate here
[20:26] <johnny> sure, but at least i will be providing a deb for seperate usage
[20:26] <johnny> for folks who really need the new features
[20:26] <ogra_cmpc> well, lets at least try to get them in
[20:27] <ogra_cmpc> but its hard to convince the guys that its not a new feature but a bug :)
[20:28] <johnny> as a non ubuntu dev, i only care that ubuntu users have the option to get the newer one, if they want the good stuff :)
[20:29] <ogra_cmpc> as ubuntu dev i care that all our users benefit form a fix :)
[20:29] <ogra_cmpc> so if its possible to get it in it should ...
[20:29] <johnny> well sure
[20:30] <johnny> cuz that will help uncover any more bugs :)
[20:30] <johnny> many*
[20:33] <johnny> i'm going to email scotty about the local apps thing
[20:33] <johnny> i have a friend who wants help me hack it
[20:33] <johnny> can you send me his email in a pm?
[20:34] <ogra_cmpc> sbalneav@ltsp.org
[20:34] <ogra_cmpc> no need for pm :)
[20:38] <johnny> ok. thanks ogra
[20:38] <ogra_cmpc> i'll start putting time into it as well right after release
[20:39] <johnny> so, what is the best howto to use usptream ltsp for development on?
[20:40] <johnny> been wondering if i should help dberkholz with ltsp in gentoo, as a way to get more of a feeling on how it ties together at a deeper level
[20:41] <ogra_cmpc> well, the upstream code is the deepest level you can get to i guess
[20:41] <ogra_cmpc> everuything deeper depends on the knowledge of your os
[20:41] <ogra_cmpc> since ltsp5 is all about distro integration
[20:42] <ogra_cmpc> so work on the distro you are most familiar with
[20:42] <ogra_cmpc> that makes most sense
[20:43] <johnny> dberkholz prolly doesn't have time to truly work on it, he just took over the PR position at gentoo it seems
[20:43] <johnny> plus whatever he does for a day job :)
[20:43] <ogra_cmpc> well, he started something recently ... with vagrant
[20:43] <johnny> and maintaining most of the sci packages for gentoo
[20:43] <johnny> yes, the hackfest
[20:43] <ogra_cmpc> right
[20:44] <johnny> i'll be finding more about that
[20:44] <ogra_cmpc> that should ahve some outcome
[20:44] <johnny> i plan on deploying 99% of ltsp installs on ubuntu
[20:44] <ogra_cmpc> i think he submitted a bunch of code upiostream
[20:44] <johnny> but, i have spent the most time actually using gentoo
[20:44] <ogra_cmpc> i thinnk i saw a commit carrying his name
[20:45] <ogra_cmpc> well, the actual final implementation of gentoo will very likely be massively different from ubuntus
[20:45] <ogra_cmpc> the way you handle initramfs and netbooting, the way you handle the initscripts etc
[20:46] <johnny> we'll see what we can do to keep it as much commonality as possible
[20:46] <ogra_cmpc> right
[20:46] <ogra_cmpc> i think the common stuff is already quite fine after debian, ubuntu and redhat went over it
[20:47] <ogra_cmpc> i dont think you will find much stuff that would be disturbing
[20:47] <johnny> hmm..so.. maybe i should have dev setup for both then..
[20:47] <ogra_cmpc> the tricky bits are the core pieces i listed above
[23:40] <supreme> hi all
[23:40] <supreme> im alumnoXX