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jcgkffycsnosrednaekim i put the output on pastebin http://pastebin.com/m7e707d9d00:00
BluesKajthe fix didn't work for my setup  I'm afrid00:00
nosrednaekimperfect... thanks00:00
NickPrestaBluesKaj, lang-pack problems? I just updated :X00:00
flipstarNickPresta: only for those that have the canadian language pack installed00:01
NickPrestaflipstar, like en-ca?00:01
nosrednaekimjcgkffycs» uhh you shouldbe getting borders.... no errors there00:01
junaidhi all00:01
nosrednaekimNickPresta» just -en and -base00:02
junaidhow do i check which kubuntu i have on my machine00:02
NickPrestajunaid, lsb_release -a00:02
nosrednaekimNickPresta» but it only seems to effect canucks...00:02
jcgkffycsI had borders, but i couldn't move any of the windows, then i restarted and the borders went away00:02
BluesKajNickPresta, nosrednaekim , it seems to be much more than just lang-pack probs ... I tried the location as US on the last install but that din't make any diff00:02
junaidcan any one refer me to a link where i find  instructions on how to install compiz in kubuntu00:03
NickPrestaWhat are the problems or symptoms?00:03
NickPresta!compiz | junaid00:03
ubotujunaid: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion00:03
BluesKaj!compiz00:03
junaidthanks00:04
BluesKajNickPresta:  updated X ...how?00:04
NickPrestaBluesKaj, I just updated. :X = emoticon for "being silent"00:06
matt_Ok, so I have a NTFS formatted hdd with about 60gb of files on it.  Reformatting isn't exactly an option I willing to take, but Kubuntu will not let me change permissions for the drive.  I have it mounted no problem, but I can't delete any files or edit/write to it.  Any way I  can fix this?00:07
BluesKajNickPresta:  login page and tty's aren't accessible on generic, recovery got a tty prompt but the launchpad fix didn't help me00:07
jcgkffycsnosrednaekim: since I know it did at one point work, is there a way to completely remove and reinstall it as if it were never installed?00:07
ere4simatt_, is ntfs-3g installed?00:07
NickPrestaBluesKaj, okay. I won't logout or go to a tty until there is a fix :)00:07
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Jahromeoargg -kiba dock jsut made my taskbar huge and black00:07
punkn00dlezLemme check. I think it is...00:08
ArwenJahromeo, docks suck anyway00:08
Jahromeosnore make it go away :P00:08
Jahromeoi cant see what irc windows etc i have open00:08
Jahromeothis huge black bar at the bottom00:08
BluesKajNickPresta:  yeah, don't ..mkae sure you remove language-pack-en-base00:08
alethesI just did an update and now kde won't start and I get an error about being unable to contact kdeinit...is this a known issue?00:09
BluesKajerr make sure that you do remove it00:09
BluesKaji think kubuntu developers otta be ashamed for sending down such a mess ...I think they owe a lotta ppl an apology for this mess00:10
punkn00dlezere4si, no it is not currently installed.  I did try and install ti however, it installed no problem,but when it was installed, I still couldn't do anything.  BTW, I kicked Windows to the curb, so it's not even on my system at all...stupid thing crashed one too many times.00:10
BluesKajpunkn00dlez:  don't be too quick to rid of windows if you want this latest offering from kubuntu ...be careful what you wish for00:12
Jahromeohow do i customize my taskbar to not get in the way of kiba -dock?00:12
alethesBluesKaj is that language-pack-en-base package related to my issue?00:12
ere4sipunkn00dlez, how is it mounted - fstab?00:12
BluesKajalethes:  not sure ...it affects different systems in different ways00:12
punkn00dlezI assume so. I'm still pretty new at this ubuntu stuff.  But I did take a looksie at it once and it said it was00:13
alethesI did see an error about a .po file, so it's possible00:13
alethesBluesKaj didn't fix it :/00:14
alethesstill can't start x now00:14
kaihello all00:14
punkn00dlezere4si, yes, it seems to be mounted in fstab.  this is the last line: /dev/hdb1 /hdb1 ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,users 0 000:14
punkn00dlezThe owner is set for me, instead of root. Still nothing.  When I go into properties to allow read and write, it says it can't change it00:15
kaiIm having a serious problem with me kDE00:16
alethesis anybody able to tell me what needs to happen so I can start X after the latest update?00:16
ere4sipunkn00dlez, still think you need ntfs-3g from what I've read - I've never used ntfs or xp00:16
BluesKajalethes:  i'm in the middle od another install, but this time I'm not taking any upgrades ... gonna hide that adept notifier where the sun don't shine :)00:16
Daisuke_Idoalethes: apparently there's a vendetta against canadians00:16
aletheshehe00:16
ere4si!ntfs-3g00:16
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions00:16
alethesDaisuke_Ido that's ok, I'm American :D00:17
aletheshehe00:17
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido: iset up the last install as location NYC and that din't make any diff00:17
Daisuke_Idobut what language pack?00:17
Daisuke_Idoen-CA?00:17
BluesKajenus00:17
aletheshonestly no idea00:17
BluesKajrepos enus00:17
ere4sipunkn00dlez, did you see the ntfs-3g link?00:17
alethesI uninstalled the language-pack-en-base package and it didn't make a difference00:18
punkn00dlezYes. I've installed it through Adept again.  Do I need to reboot?00:18
BluesKaji don'r use the en-ca lang pack , never have afaik00:18
beautifulsnowHey Kubuntu people: in Ubuntu, There's a program Add/Remove programs that makes it very easy to install/remove apps. Other than apt-get and synaptic, what is available for Kubunters?00:19
ere4si!ntfs-3g | punkn00dlez,00:19
ubotupunkn00dlez,: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions00:19
alethesbeautifulsnow adept00:19
ere4sipunkn00dlez, read the instructions :)00:19
beautifulsnowThats apt-get, isnt it? :-/00:19
alethesnot anymore than synaptic is :P00:20
BluesKajit's afront end for apt00:20
punkn00dlezAlright, lemme check it out for sec.00:20
kaiwhen f i let set idle to long it locks my cou and doens;t respond to mouse events im using kde 3.5.8 Does any one else have any similiar problems00:20
alethesman I hope heron is better than gutsy :/00:20
BanTamit didnt work00:20
BanTami got stuck at a blank screen00:21
BanTamwith the cursor flashing at the top00:21
beautifulsnowheron is more recent than gutsy? (sorry I looked online but coudnt find the info anywhere ^^;;; )00:21
BluesKajand the probs continue00:21
flipstarjep it is00:21
beautifulsnowthanks flip ^^00:21
punkn00dlezere4si, I've got ntfs-config installed.  Whenever I go to run the config tool it doesn't do anything00:21
BluesKajbbiab ..see how this one goes00:22
flipstarbeautifulsnow: it is not even released..still an alpha..00:22
ere4sipunkn00dlez, I have no experience with that - sorry - isn't there somewhere in your fstab entry that you have to mention ntfs-3g?00:23
beautifulsnowflipstar finally found something online, its going to be released april .. wheee its almost there, can't wait ^_^00:23
alethesyou're new around here, eh? :)00:23
punkn00dlezere4si, I have no idea. Like I said, I don't exactly know what I'm doing.00:23
aletheskubuntu along with the other variations of ubuntu are released every  6 months, beautifulsnow00:23
ere4sipunkn00dlez, that link would have told you...00:24
Jahromeohow do i remove my bottom panel - its in the way of my dock - right click - remove panel is greyed out, any ideas?00:24
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punkn00dlezere4si, it says nothing about fstab00:24
punkn00dlezere4si, only for FAT32 partitions00:25
Jahromeo how the hell do i disable my bottom panel00:26
Jahromeoits annoying me grrr00:26
ere4sipunkn00dlez, I don't do windows so maybe someone with more experience with it can help - sorry00:26
flipstarJahromeo: you mean kicker ? you can drag and drop it00:26
punkn00dlezIt's all good, thank you for your help though.00:26
ere4sik00:26
Jahromeoflipstar i wish to remove "kicker"00:27
Jahromeoits in the way of my dock :(00:27
flipstarthen just kill it00:27
Jahromeohow do i disable it?00:27
gabriel_tem algum br ae00:27
gabriel_?00:27
gabriel_br00:28
flipstarctrl+esc and search for it..or use konsole killall kicker00:28
gabriel_#canalbr00:28
Jahromeoflip i dont want to have to do that every boot00:28
flipstar!br > gabriel_00:28
gabriel_thanks00:28
dogma_!pidgin00:28
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.000:28
gabriel_#ubuntu-pt00:28
Jahromeoman someone must know how to remove kicker seriously00:29
flipstaryou can write a script..00:30
Jahromeothere must be an option to hide or disable kicker00:30
Jahromeoseriously00:30
aletheschmod 644 /usr/bin/kicker :D00:30
flipstarsorry i dont know about that..00:30
alethesthen it can't start00:30
gabriel_I am studying the vulnerability exploration, I know?00:31
Jahromeosomething that wont break my system plz alethes :P00:31
alethesthat won't break it00:31
eddyhow can i activate the audio card in my acer aspire 5050 notebook00:31
alethesI believe that if you kill it then save your session, it won't come up though00:31
Arwenalethes, unless you're root :-)00:32
Arwenroot can do anything00:32
alethesArwen are you suggesting that root can execute a file that is set to 644?00:32
gabriel_i hate windows00:33
Arwen[19:33] <gabriel_> i hate windows <-- such an intelligent statement........00:33
Arwenalethes, or not... weird00:33
TheGonkI messed up my KDE Menu.  I got the menu back to normal, but my icon on my tray has changed and I can't figure out how to change it back.00:36
prince_jammysTheGonk: try restarting kicker00:39
prince_jammysTheGonk: killall kicker;kicker00:40
TheGonkAhh...I figured it out.  I had added a "sub menu" directly to the bar, and couldn't see my K Menu.  I added my K Menu, then had 2 K Menus, deleted one and the sub menu I had added, and back to normal.00:40
alethesdcop kicker kicker restart00:40
TheGonkLearning experience00:40
TheGonkThanks00:40
dogma_dont arrive to install everything..00:43
Jahromeoany basic tutorials that i can look at to pimp my system with kiba-dock00:44
Jahromeohow do i get flash for konqueror?00:45
swattowhats the calculator command for Kubuntu please?00:46
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flipstarspeedcrunch00:46
Jahromeowhat flash plugin do i need for konqueror?00:47
flipstar!gnash00:47
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/00:47
flipstar!flash00:47
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash00:47
Jahromeoso its gnash needed and not flashplugin-nonfree or whatever its called?00:47
flipstarno thtese are different things00:48
swattoIs there a command to open speedcrunch please flipstar00:48
flipstar.. speedcrunch is the command to open SpeedCrunch ..00:49
swattokk cheers00:49
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Jahromeowhat is the nonfree flash plugin name?00:50
BanTamArwen you around?00:51
Arwenyes00:51
BanTamit didnt work00:51
ArwenJahromeo, flashplugin-nonfree00:51
BanTam:(00:51
ArwenBanTam, what happen?00:51
Jahromeohmm i have flashplugin-nonfree installed but i cant view youtube vids....?00:51
BanTami got stuck at a blank screen00:51
Jahromeodo i need to select it somewhere in firefox/konqueror00:51
ArwenBanTam, paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log00:52
dogma_why kopete dont appear in add/remove programs? i have already download it00:52
Arwenor whatever the appropriate file is00:52
Jahromeopress alt+f2 - type kopete00:52
Jahromeoor check internet - kopete00:52
BanTamhttp://pastebin.com/m515ecb5100:53
BanTamnot sure if thats going to help you  though00:54
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BanTami had to revert back to my old xorg.conf to reboot00:54
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dogma_i became crazy00:55
xxBasYxxis there any profi flash studio on kubuntu?00:55
BanTamthis is the xorg.conf file i used00:55
BanTamhttp://pastebin.com/m6629692a00:55
JahromeoDownload done.00:56
Jahromeomd5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz00:56
JahromeoThe Flash plugin is NOT installed.00:56
MartinCleaverlvm2 - unmounted filesystem00:56
MartinCleaverhow do I tell how much space is being used without mounting it?00:56
Jahromeodid i do something wrong when i uninstalled i did sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree , then i did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree00:56
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xxBasYxxJahromeo: there is a bug in flash package00:57
david_hi there00:57
dogma_somebody speak french here?00:57
flipstarMartinCleaver: try df -h00:57
MartinCleaversorry, ext3 filesystem unmounted00:57
david_I have a question about a fresh00:57
Jahromeoso it seems xxbasyxx - is it broken atm?00:57
david_installation00:57
MartinCleaverdoesn't show, its unmounted00:57
flipstar!fr > dogma_00:57
dogma_thanks ;)00:58
xxBasYxxJahromeo: i have same problem 2 moths ago.. can't find that forum now :(00:58
xxBasYxxyou have to download fixed package00:58
david_when I go to   add/remove programs   I get no list of programs00:59
flipstarthis thing is still not fixed ?00:59
Jahromeodownloading it off adobe website now01:00
Jahromeotar.gz file01:00
* MartinCleaver wonders whether dumpe2fs will tell him how much space is being used01:00
flipstar"This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix."01:00
Jahromeothanks flip01:00
david_why dont I get a list of programs to download off of add/remove programs?01:00
david_I only have a list of what I already have01:01
david_I have fresh install of 7.1001:01
xxBasYxxim lookin for some flash editor for kubuntu... is there anythig?01:02
Jahromeodavid_ run synaptic or adept manager01:02
flipstardavid_: use adept and deselect not installed ..01:02
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david_ok01:02
ridellhola01:02
flipstar!search flash editor | xxBasYxx01:02
ubotuFound: gconf-#ubuntu-effects, code, keys-#ubuntu-effects, flash64, brokenflash, splash, brokenkde4*, gedit, vim, flashissues01:02
NickPresta!es | ridell01:03
uboturidell: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.01:03
ridellhi everyone01:03
ridelli'm herwe01:03
ridellhere01:03
Randunihi all, I have the following error in kdm.log after upgrading the kde-libs kubuntu package: kdecore (KLocale): WARNING: Definition of PluralForm is none of NoPlural/TwoForms/French/OneTwoRest/Russian/Polish/Slovenian/Lithuanian/Czech/Slovak/Arabic/Balcan/Macedonian/Gaeilge/Maltese: Definition of PluralForm - to be set by the translator of kdelibs.po01:03
ridellsomebody there?01:04
RanduniI see in the forums some people say sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en01:04
Randuniis that the "official" fix?01:04
flipstarno..01:05
ridelloui01:05
Randuni?01:05
flipstarno this is not an official fix01:05
Randuniokay...is it the only fix at this time?01:05
ridellça va?01:06
Randuniridell?...tu parle le francais?01:06
BanTamArwen ya still with me?01:06
ridelloui01:06
Randunibon01:06
flipstaryour error is different from the language pack error01:06
ArwenBanTam, ye01:06
BanTamjust checkin :)01:06
RanduniI was recently notified that there are 4 updates for my kubuntu01:07
ArwenBanTam, oh, sorry, didn't notice your files >_>01:07
Arwenone second01:07
BanTamnp01:07
ridellhey everyone i'm free if i wanna talk free is not ur bussiness ok01:07
BanTamthe instructions i got say i need this...01:07
BanTamA recent version of the free Xorg, WITHOUT any binary graphics driver installed.01:07
BanTamhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=177371001:07
ArwenBanTam, your MetaModes option is still broken01:07
Arwen#01:08
Arwen#01:08
Arwen        Option "MetaModes" "1024x768" "1024x768"01:08
icanhasadminAnyone know a quick way of checking if I have Visual C++ installed or not?01:08
Arwenshould be:01:08
ridelland i wanna talk french ok01:08
ArwenOption "MetaModes" "1024x768-1024x768"01:08
BanTamok01:08
NickPresta!fr | ridell01:08
uboturidell: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:08
NickPrestaicanhasadmin, are you talking about visual c++ (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/visualc/default.aspx)?01:08
Jahromeojust install flash from the adobe site that worked01:08
ridellbut is not fair01:08
flipstaricanhasadmin: apt-cache policy <packet>01:08
ridelli do u said that01:09
icanhasadminNickPresta: Yes, nevermind I just answered my own question. Thank you :)01:09
ridell?01:09
ArwenBanTam, also, I see fglrx loading in your Xorg.0.log for some reason01:09
Arwendid you reboot?01:09
Arwenand uninstall it?01:09
BanTamyes01:09
ridellok01:09
ridelli get it01:09
BanTami had to put back my xorg.conf file to reboot01:09
ridellany female from canada?01:09
flipstar!info female01:10
ubotuPackage female does not exist in gutsy01:10
ArwenBanTam, oh, I see01:10
BanTamHOW should i uninstall the ati proprietary drivers?01:10
Arwenapt-get remove01:11
BanTami dunno the nam of the drivers though01:11
BanTamname01:11
david_sweet it worked01:11
david_thanks01:11
Arwenapt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx01:11
Arwenbut if it's envy, I dunno01:11
BanTamwell all envy dos is install the ati drivers01:11
BanTamthen it uses a VESA driver01:12
NickPresta!envy | BanTam if you haven't seen this01:12
ubotuBanTam if you haven't seen this: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »01:12
icanhasadminQuestion. If I'm downloading core microsoft fonts (like arial), do I have to install them into wine or are there 'linux friendly' versions available?01:12
ArwenNickPresta, telling him that now doesn't really accomplish much now though01:12
ridellwhere can i looking for some drivers for printer hp deskjet 1020?01:12
Arwenicanhasadmin, wine will use them automagically01:12
Arweninstall them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype01:12
NickPrestaicanhasadmin, msttcorefonts is the package you want.01:12
icanhasadminThank you both, can i apt-get install msttcorefonts?01:13
Arwenand if you have a Windows install, you can do "ln -s <windows mount point>/WINDOWS/Fonts /usr/share/fonts/truetype/winfonts"01:13
NickPrestaArwen, I know. I am informing him that envy isn't supported and he should be thankful that you're helping him :)01:13
Arwenicanhasadmin, yes01:13
BanTamim extremly thankful, i never said or implied i wasnt01:13
ArwenI link the fonts from my Windows install, gets me all of em with no waste of disk space :-)01:13
Randuni2008-02-26 19:07:18 status installed language-pack-en 1:7.10+2008020501:13
Randuni2008-02-26 19:07:18 status installed language-pack-kde-en 1:7.10+2008020501:13
Randuni2008-02-26 19:07:38 status installed language-pack-en-base 1:7.10+2008020501:13
Randuni2008-02-26 19:07:38 status installed language-pack-kde-en-base 1:7.10+2008020501:13
TonrenHow can I stop ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 from being rewritten every time I restart?01:14
icanhasadminlol these days there's a lot of disk space to go around, I respect the efficiency tho ;)01:14
ArwenBanTam, back to the point, try with the corrected MetaModes line01:14
BanTamok01:14
flipstara lot? yes enough? no01:14
BanTami fixed that, so i use the restricted drivers now?01:15
ArwenGAH, Hardy's firefox3 is NOT SHOWING IMAGES01:15
ArwenBanTam, noo. you don't want any restricted drivers at all if you're trying this.01:15
beautifulsnowTheres images of hardy already ? O.o01:15
BanTamok01:15
Arwenbeautifulsnow, 5 of em in fact01:15
NickPrestabeautifulsnow, hardy is in Alpha 5 now, IIRC01:15
beautifulsnowI went on google images and put "hardy".... *crosses eyes in pain*01:16
BanTamlet me try this brb01:17
david_After a year (or a tad over) of using linux solely, I went back to windows just to play around and I could not stop with the sinister snicker...the whole time saying to myself " Oh yeah, I keep forgetting.. I cant do that with here".01:18
flipstarArwen: is you sure that firefox wont show images in hardy ?01:19
david_meant to say... "I cant do that here"01:19
Arwenflipstar, yeah. I think the bug is in xulrunner, but...01:19
flipstarthen look at this :) http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2669/ff3tg5.png01:19
Arwen!worksforme01:20
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/01:20
Arwenseems to be video card specific for some god-unknown reason01:20
BanTamwell01:20
Arwenthere's even an open bug about it01:20
BanTami got one monitor01:20
BanTambut the resolution is like 640x48001:20
Arwenhmm, xorg.0.log pelase01:20
Arwenplease*01:20
BanTamas it boted i had 2 monitors until i entered my pwrd then the 2nd monitor went out and the resolution chaned01:21
Arwenit worked until you logged in?01:21
Arwenwere they spanned or mirrored?01:21
TonrenAnyone...?  How can I stop ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 from being rewritten every time I restart?01:22
ArwenTonren, chmod 000 ~/.kde/share/config/gtkc-2.0 will probably work01:22
Arwennow, whether or not that's what you want...01:22
TonrenArwen: Yeah yeah... the car won't have trouble starting if you blow it up.  It just won't exist.  ;-P01:23
BanTamSOB it wont let me paste, when i paste nothing comes out01:23
BanTamDAMMIT01:23
TonrenArwen: I'm mystified, here.  All I want to do is remove ONE line in the file to make my GTK apps stop screwing up01:24
TonrenArwen: But every time I restart, it's back, and there's no indication of what's populating it01:24
Arwen"While you're dying I'll be still alive / And when you're dead I will be still alive" w00t01:24
TonrenAnd there doesn't seem to be any documentation of it anywhere.  I Googled it too.01:24
ArwenBanTam, o.O01:24
Arwenthank the lord the dualhead nonsense is fixed in Hardy :-P01:24
flipstarTonren: did you taked a look at the file ?01:25
flipstarespecially the first lines01:25
BanTamso how do i paste this now?01:25
ArwenBanTam, slowly? :-P01:25
Tonrenflipstar: Of course!  I couldn't very well edit it without taking a look.01:25
BanTamthis has been a total headache01:25
ArwenBanTam, scroll through it and look for errors and stuff01:25
crazy_busI need java to access blackboard but I'm not sure whether I should use the official plugins or icedtea.  Which would people recommend?01:25
flipstarhah it just says what to do ..01:25
Tonrenflipstar: It says what to do if you *don't* want KDE to override my GTK settings.01:26
Tonrenflipstar: I do--I just don't want that damn line to show up.01:26
BanTamWW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found01:26
Arwenthat would be a problem... moving on01:27
BanTami see a bunch of stuff01:27
BanTamtoo much to paste in here01:27
flipstarTonren: so why dont you edit it and say kde to not override...?01:27
Tonrenflipstar: Because I don't want to spend 3 hours tweaking it by hand to match my KDE theme.01:28
ArwenBanTam, eh. X-related issues are nightmares to solve over IRC :-\01:28
TonrenArwen: howcome?01:28
ArwenTonren, massive logs...01:28
TonrenAhh, true01:28
TonrenI usually open irssi in a screen window, and I have a command line script for sending files to pastebins01:29
ArwenBanTam, if you let me log in to your box, I might be able to help more, but alas :-P01:29
BanTamsure tell me how01:29
BanTami got nothing to lose01:29
BanTamlol01:29
Arwenlolol01:29
Arwen!ssh | BanTam01:30
ubotuBanTam: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/01:30
Arwenbut um... careful with strangers01:30
BanTami hear ya01:31
BanTamlike i said i got nothing on here right now im worried about losing so it dont matter01:31
BanTamso what am i doing here? i gotta install ssh?01:32
flipstarwhy dont you just open a query..01:32
ArwenBanTam, basically, apt-get install openssh-server, make sure your router isn't in the way, and give me your login password (if you dare)01:32
BanTamill pm it to you01:33
david_my screen blacks out then comes back when I an in adept01:33
BanTamarwen check your msg01:33
alethesis there a solution for the kdeinit issue that has come up since the latest update?01:33
pcmaxSysinfo for 'PCMAX': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643500+ at 2629 MHz (5264 bogomips), , RAM: 668/1011MB, 110 proc's, 22.35min up01:34
david_do I need my video driver installed?01:34
ArwenBanTam, didn't get one. Are you a registered user on FreeNode?01:34
BanTamumm dont think so01:34
Arwenalternatively, you can join #anon32 (my private channel)01:34
BanTamim in there01:35
david_it doesnt tell me that 3d exceleration is on or not01:35
aletheshmmm ok, can somebody suggest a distro that isn't broken? :)01:35
Dr_willis_alethes,  i have very few issues with ubuntu.  :)01:36
alethesI usually don't have any issues either01:36
Dr_willis_ive not noticed any kdeinit issues either.01:36
alethesbut now I can't start x because of a broken update01:36
Dr_willis_all i been doing lately is playing wesnoth. :)01:36
MuNzESysinfo for 'mi-desktop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4800 bogomips), HD: 295/471GB, RAM: 2906/3546MB, 145 proc's, 4.53h up01:38
Rogemy panel has vanished in kde4, anyone know how i mite get it back ?01:38
flipstaralethes: if the update broke you, just uninstall it ..01:39
dogma_!fr01:40
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:40
=== r0uzic_ is now known as r0uzic_ausente
prince_jammysRoge try alt f2 and type "kicker"01:41
david_does linux run ok on a quad core system? I should have checked before ordering one?01:41
Rogeprince_jammys, that loads the kde 3 panel01:41
prince_jammysRoge: ah01:41
tcm_Roge: run 'plasma'01:43
david_does anyone know?01:43
Rogeill try that tcm_01:43
Rogety01:43
root___que es esto01:43
prince_jammys!es | root___01:43
uboturoot___: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.01:43
Rogetcm_,  seems that command does not exsist01:43
david_does linux run ok on a quad core system? I guess I should have checked before ordering one.01:43
prince_jammys!kde401:44
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde401:44
Rogeno one alive in the kde4 channel01:44
Dr_willis_david_,  should run fine01:44
root___qu es esto01:44
prince_jammysroot___: es el canal de ayuda para ubuntu01:45
flipstardavid_: 8 ~ 1,024 cpus are no problem01:45
prince_jammysroot___: /join #ubuntu-es01:45
root___y para que sirve esto01:45
* Dr_willis_ installs dos on a octacore system to play doom real fast!01:45
Dr_willis_:)01:45
noodles12hey. you know how the icon bounces on our mouse. What is that called so i can change it?01:45
Dr_willis_noodles12,  launch feedback - i belive01:45
Jahromeoholy crud this box feels slow with kiba-dock - yet its a 2.4ghz quad with 4gb ram01:46
prince_jammysroot___: para problemas relacionados con ubuntu. pero este canal es ayuda en ingles nada mas01:46
root___y como hago para cambiarlo a español01:46
david_good thanks01:46
prince_jammysroot___: teclea /join #ubuntu-es01:46
icanhasadminanyone know where in windows to find comctl32.dll? /system32?01:46
flipstar!windows | icanhasadmin01:47
ubotuicanhasadmin: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents01:47
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: /mnt/windows/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/dllcache/comctl32.dll01:47
noodles12Dr_willis_: thanks01:47
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: with your mount point obviously :)01:48
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: oh and like you said also in: /mnt/windows/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/comctl32.dll01:48
icanhasadmin...well thank you. I don't think the forced !command was necesary :P01:49
icanhasadmin:D :D you guys are the best as always01:49
icanhasadminI have an even dumber question... 2 partitions on my windows drive, i'm guessing they are different mnt points? and how do i tell them apart?01:50
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: how do you mean? there's two windows installations?01:51
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: each should have its own mount point01:51
Dr_willis_icanhasadmin,  try the 'mount' command - see whats mounted where.. and look at the contents of the mountpoints01:51
icanhasadmintyty01:51
Dr_willis_many windows machines have a 'recovery' partitin these days.01:51
Dr_willis_You really dont need it mounted under linux. :)01:51
Arwen^^ - which is an evil waste of disk space01:51
Arwendelete it01:51
david_how do I get my NVidia video card driver installed01:51
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: yes, "mount" by itself should show you what's mounted. sudo not necessary01:51
icanhasadminit says /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1.. why are there 2 points?01:52
Dr_willis_Arwen,  seen that break a few windows machines for my friends. :)01:52
Dr_willis_icanhasadmin,  thats ONE mount point.01:52
Arweno.O01:52
icanhasadminlol@arwins discspace saving ocd01:52
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: there aren't.   /media/sda1 is the mount point  /dev/blah is the device01:52
icanhasadminthank you01:52
Dr_willis_!mount01:52
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter01:52
icanhasadminsorry i get confused. Once you tell me tho i'm ok for life ;)01:52
icanhasadminis it normal for kubuntu to mount windows in /media?01:53
Dr_willis_learning how linux mounts filesystes,.... Is one of the top 10 things to learn.. on yoyur path to Linux-Leetness. :)01:53
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: yes, that's standard in ubuntu01:53
Dr_willis_icanhasadmin,  every thing normally gets mounted  in /media/SOMTHING01:53
icanhasadminDr_willis_: don't plan on being leet, but thank you :)01:53
BluesKajthere's no text in my xorg.config file ...what gives?01:53
draikHey all01:53
draikI got a minor issue. Don't know if this is something I did wrong or possibly a bug...01:54
draikNo command arguments supplied!01:54
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: /media is how ubuntu does it.  i put mine on /mnt some time ago.  you can mount wherever you want01:54
david_my screen blacks out then comes back when I am in adept01:54
draikUsage : kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command>01:54
draikKdeSudo will now exit...01:54
Dr_willis_draik,  and what was the command you gave?01:54
flipstardraik: as it says you have to supply an command01:54
prince_jammysdraik: paste what you typed01:55
draikDr_willis_: flipstar: I haven't. This is a popup message when I login to my account.01:55
draikprince_jammys: ^^^01:55
prince_jammysgotcha01:55
Dr_willis_sounds like you got a session item saved incorrectly01:55
BluesKajhow does one generate a  xorg.config file ?01:55
prince_jammysBluesKaj: xorg.conf?01:55
prince_jammysBluesKaj: the file is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:56
draikDr_willis_: How do you suppose I find it and kill it?01:56
BluesKajno kidding ...there' sno text in it01:56
ErtainMy computer keeps freezing up, but I don't know why.01:56
prince_jammysBluesKaj: back it up if you're going to edit it01:56
ErtainIt could be due to some part of Firefox, but I'm not sure.01:56
prince_jammysBluesKaj: it's blank?01:56
BluesKajyup01:56
AlethesBluesKaj: I was able to fix that kdeinit prob01:56
flipstarBluesKaj: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:56
AlethesI don't know if you have the same prob01:56
draikDr_willis_: Is there something I can run/do to find what should no longer be running?01:57
BluesKajAlethes:  cool how ?01:57
prince_jammysBluesKaj: try the above, and the check the backups in the same dir01:57
icanhasadmin"cp /source-location/file /copy-location/file" is the correct syntax right? And is it relative location or exact?01:57
AlethesBluesKaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69507301:57
fortruthhello, I want to know if i need reinstall non-free driver of nvidia when i change my linux-image!.01:57
Aletheslast message on that page01:57
BluesKajflipstar:  don't wann achange anysettings now01:57
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: yes, that should work.   cp -r for directories01:57
AlethesBluesKaj: sudo dpkg -r language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-en-base01:57
Alethesor01:57
icanhasadminprince_jammys: you the man01:57
Alethessudo qt-language-selector --mode select01:57
Alethesselect us-english01:57
Alethespretty lame bug01:58
BluesKajAlethes:  language-pack-kde-en as well eh ?01:58
flipstarBluesKaj: theres no content but X is running? are you on hardy ?01:58
AlethesBluesKaj: yeah, that's all that needs to be removed01:58
BluesKajno, gutsy01:58
Alethesgotta do the base package at the same time though01:58
Alethes'cause they both depend on each other01:58
Dr_willis_!startup01:59
ubotuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot01:59
BluesKajAlethes:I removed  language-pack-en-base01:59
Dr_willis_draik,  see the !startup info :)01:59
Dr_willis_Theres also a kde startup manager tool01:59
AlethesBluesKaj: yeah, that does nothing01:59
Dr_willis_!find startup01:59
ubotuFound: libstartup-notification0, libstartup-notification0-dev, startup-tasks, startupmanager01:59
Alethesit's the kde language packs02:00
Dr_willis_!info startupmanager02:00
ubotustartupmanager (source: startupmanager): Grub and Splash screen configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 53 kB, installed size 652 kB02:00
Dr_willis_hmm thats not it.02:00
BluesKajreally Alethes ok , thx I'll dump the kde lang base as well02:00
AlethesBluesKaj: check that message on the forum I posted02:00
icanhasadminok, supernub question. I have a directory with a space in it. How do I denote that while typing it in command line?02:01
flipstar""02:01
Alethesicanhasadmin: you can quote it like flipstar said or you can just tab complete it02:02
Dr_willis_icanhasadmin,   quote the whole name/path or escape the space.02:02
Dr_willis_It can get TRICKY at times. :)02:02
icanhasadminkk02:02
Dr_willis_cd 'Program Files'02:02
icanhasadmini'll figure out on my own what tab complete means ;)02:02
Alethesif you start typing the name and hit tab, it'll complete it02:02
icanhasadmingotcha02:02
icanhasadminlike usernames in irc02:02
icanhasadminlol02:02
Alethesyep02:02
Dr_willis_icanhasadmin,   you may want to track down a bash beginners guide or 2 :) and do some readng02:02
Dr_willis_!tab02:02
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:02
flipstaror just use 'blah \ blah'02:02
icanhasadminI find it amusing how all the 'tricks' all this software has I used to use on windows, actually seems to be built based on common linux commands02:03
AlethesBluesKaj: man, that bug just about had me running for a new distro02:03
Dr_willis_icanhasadmin,  you mean windows/MS stealing ideas from other people? Egads! :)02:03
icanhasadminlol02:04
sub[t]rnlhi02:04
icanhasadminIt's funny. When I was very young (12?) I coded rooms/weapons/armors/etc for a MUD in something called "LPC" which i can only presume is a bastardized version of C. I remember almost none of it but things seem to pop in my head everytime i read some piece of source02:05
flipstarhi02:05
BluesKajAlethes:  I'm not out of the woods yet ..still tempted to lookelsewhere if this locale prob keeps persisting02:05
StrangeletI accidentally removed everything on my KDE panel, now, I am trying to move things back into place, but applets such as the 'system tray' and 'taskbar' cannot seem to be moved. How do I move them?02:05
draik_Dr_willis_: There is nothing in Autostart02:05
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flipstardraik_: probably a restore from last session02:06
flipstarStrangelet: everything in kicker can be moved02:07
Strangeletflipstar: Understood, though I do not know how some things can be moved, i.e. taskbar02:07
AlethesBluesKaj: still not fixed?02:07
tcm_Strangelet: I've had same problem few weeks ago. I solved it by adding (how it should be on the panel) right to lef02:08
Dr_willis_draik,  theres a kde tool that helps ya manage the sessions also i think.02:08
Strangelettcm_: ehh, I think the developers should know about this. :p02:09
icanhasadminSo I'm still up in there air between gnone and kde.. anyone want to win me over on KDE? I just need some convincing02:09
prince_jammysStrangelet: first unlock the panel, then you have to mouse over the stuff until you see a little arrow.  when you see it, grab it and move it,  it's pretty annoyinh02:09
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BluesKaji removed them , Alethes... now comes the test ..gonna reconfigure my nonexistent xorg file , cuz i gotta have DRI and 3D for google earth ..BBL02:09
Strangeletprince_jammys: Umm, where should I mouse over for the taskbar?02:10
Dr_willis_icanhasadmin,  use them both..  and see.02:10
draikflipstar: How do I find it?02:11
Dr_willis_I set up the wife with Gnome, I tend to use kde.02:11
Alethesicanhasadmin: I used gnome for years and I use kde now02:11
draikDr_willis_: Do you know the app?02:11
flipstarno this aint good to use both..02:11
Dr_willis_draik,  use the package manager and search - i forget its name02:11
prince_jammysStrangelet: on the left edge02:11
icanhasadminI am using them both :) very different. I just.. I don't know. Undecided :P02:11
Strangeletprince_jammys: Thanks! I will start mousing around now. :P02:11
Dr_willis_very different? Hmm.. never noticed.02:11
Dr_willis_Heh02:11
flipstardraik: if this happend the first time you can ignore it..if you dont use kdesu when exiting the current session it wont occure in the next one02:11
Alethesicanhasadmin: I can give you one good reason -- the developers are not as stubborn :D02:12
Alethesthe attitude of the devs for kde is totally different than that of the gnome devs from my experience02:12
Dr_willis_one reason.. KDE402:12
Dr_willis_:)02:12
icanhasadminAlethes: see that's what i'm talking about! lol02:12
Alethesor at least 4.1 haha02:12
Strangeletprince_jammys: can't find it. :(02:13
prince_jammysStrangelet: it can be hard.  an alternative is to see if you can delete it and add it back02:13
Alethesgnome has a nice clean look, but the backend is pretty shoddy02:13
Alethesand kde can be made to look like gnome02:13
prince_jammysStrangelet: the panel is unlocked, right?02:13
Strangeletprince_jammys, yassir02:13
icanhasadminAny hope for me getting compiz/beryl or something pretty like that to run on an ati xpress laptop card? i don't want a walk through, just a yes or no :)02:14
Alethesicanhasadmin: kde can do everything gnome can do and more.  gnome is quite a bit behind as far as features go.02:14
prince_jammysStrangelet: i just tried it.. the little vertical bar and the arrow popped up on the far left of the taskbar02:14
draikDr_willis_: I don't use it for shutting down. How about I use it this time?02:15
draikDr_willis_: kdesudo -u root halt                will that work?02:16
icanhasadminAlethes: Yeah, I liked the whole "find a new desktop background" thing. Right in the menu, easy to find, seemed updated and had cool options02:16
Strangeletprince_jammys: No avail. :(02:16
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Dr_willis_draik,  theres no need to use kdesu for non-gui apps02:16
Dr_willis_sudo halt02:16
Dr_willis_Or cheat like i do . and make it where the user can use the halt/shutdown command. no sudo needed02:17
prince_jammysStrangelet: weird. it's working over here.02:17
flipstaryou dont need to cheat for that..just use kmenu :=)02:17
Dr_willis_i got  the suid bit set on halt. :)02:18
Dr_willis_at one time i had a user named 'halt' that had no password. and the default shell was halt.02:19
Dr_willis_ so 'halt' at  LOGIN: would halt the box. :)02:19
flipstarhaha02:19
Aletheshaha02:20
Alethesman, you know that'd be a weird hack if you could just automatically turn every failed login into a ln to a command02:20
Alethesso everything just worked haha02:20
Dr_willis_Alethes,  Hmm.. Proberly doable. :)02:21
Alethesyeah, but it's a horrible idea :D02:21
icanhasadminthat was all really funny.02:21
Dr_willis_Login Failed: please enter your Credit card # to continue02:22
Dr_willis_:)02:22
Aletheshaha02:22
icanhasadminor an 11 digit prime number..02:22
Alethes:o02:22
Alethesyou may be a windows user, but you're definitely a geek, icanhasadmin02:22
Alethes:)02:22
icanhasadminI'd like to think so. I like text based rpgs and rubiks cubes :(02:23
icanhasadminTotally not cool enough tho. But thank you :)02:23
prince_jammys80s stuff, huh02:23
Dr_willis_Go play Wesnoth for a few hrs.02:23
icanhasadminnethack ftw02:24
prince_jammysicanhasadmin: you should install ubuntu on your commodore 64/sinclair spectrum02:24
Dr_willis_i gave up on nethack after they removed the pick-ax cheats. :)02:24
dennisterhey BluesKaj, did the launchpad line help? r u in ur drive's kde now?02:24
* Dr_willis_ has a C64 and a Spectrum.02:24
icanhasadminI love this place, really.02:24
Xbehavedoes anybody know much about amarok, in particular scripts?02:24
BluesKajeverything seems ok , except my scrn res...won't save my 1152x864 settings , reverts to widecscreen 1280x102402:25
icanhasadmin1152x864? what kind of monitor is that..02:25
dennisterwonderful...some progress anyway, ur not in livecd anymore02:26
Arwena 3:2 one? :-p02:26
icanhasadminoh..02:26
* icanhasadmin can't count02:26
Arwen[21:25] <BluesKaj> everything seems ok , except my scrn res...won't save my 1152x864 settings , reverts to widecscreen 1280x1024 <-- how is 1280x1024 widescreen?02:26
BluesKajhi dennister , it seems good yeah ..so far anyway ...put adept notifier on ice for now tho...don't trust any more updates :P02:26
icanhasadminyeah,.. 1280x800 is wide i though02:26
icanhasadmin*t02:26
* Arwen doesn't trust updates. It's Hardy after all.02:26
AlethesBluesKaj: yeah, might as well just wait for hardy now02:26
* icanhasadmin pretends to be helpful02:26
BluesKajArwen:  it is for me02:26
draikDr_willis_: Got it fixed. Made it start an empty session. Now I'm starting what I want and that will be my new session02:26
dennisterlol...know what you mean...well i'm gonna take off, night folks02:26
BluesKajnite dennister02:27
BluesKajnot on Hardy , gutsy here02:28
Xbehavedoes anybody know much about amarok, or ~/.kde ? ive got noexec on my /home but i want to install amarok scripts to02:28
BluesKajArwen: ok it isn't wide screen but it's meant for larger scrn than this ol' 17" Mitsubishi Diamond plus 7302:29
prince_jammysXbehave: you mean you can't execute scripts in your home dir?02:29
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Arwenanyway reboot time... now if only kernels could be swapped on-the-fly02:30
* BluesKaj examines newly generated xorg.config file02:30
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Xbehaveyeah, well i think i cant execute anything(including scripts) and i get an error when trying to install them from amarok02:31
flipstari'll leave now..02:31
flipstarcya02:31
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BluesKajstrange , the xorg.config file is still empty02:32
Daisuke_Idoshouldn't it be xorg.conf? >_>02:34
prince_jammysyes02:35
Arwenanyone here understand the inner workings of fglrx? the latest versions are supposed to be way faster, but they're dog slow on my system02:36
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prince_jammysnot i02:37
BluesKajthe latest versions don't run well on onboard ati02:38
yurimxpxmanhow can I add music to my 6th generation iPod? I haven't had any luck.02:38
Authoritywhen booting, two devices get created for my one network card, wifi0 and wlan0.  Only wlan0 (hostap driver) is actually used and wifi0 just has a bunch of errors in dmesg.  how can I figure out what is creating wifi0 and stop it?02:39
BluesKajArwen:  i have an ati x200G onboard and the restricted driver works well . even tvtime02:39
Authority=02:40
ArwenBluesKaj, odd, because on 8.2, MPlayer with GL output is at least 2-3 times slower.02:40
Arwenand it has funky tearing02:41
BluesKajArwen:  I'm on 8.37 , which is actually older i think02:42
eddysomeone speak spanish02:42
BluesKaj!es02:42
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.02:42
prince_jammys!es | eddy02:42
ubotueddy: please see above02:42
Admiral_Chicagoeddy: i do but ask there.02:42
ArwenBluesKaj, it is. That one worked ok.02:42
ArwenI'm on Hardy Heron though and apparently this is the only one supporting the .24 kernel02:42
eddythanks a lot02:43
beautifulsnowhow do you get hardy heron? O_o02:43
LjL!hardy > beautifulsnow    (beautifulsnow, see the private message from Ubotu)02:43
Arwensomeone ought to fix that though.... the r300 driver is faster...02:45
Admiral_ChicagoArwen: it is an F/OSS project...you could fix it02:46
Arwenfglrx? it is NOT open02:46
Arwenand that's what I'm complaining about02:46
Admiral_Chicagooh i seemed to not read well...02:48
[Archon]how can i get the url, username workgroup (etc) settings from smb://some.com/path so i can put it in the CLI (and fstab)?02:49
Stofferfsck is asking me to choose a different superblock to check my hard drive.... can someone help me choose the right one?02:52
Stoffernm02:53
Ahmuckhi.  something happened to my battery meter.  battery meter does not seem to be showing correctly.  it dropped and rises sudenly02:54
BanTamwhat a pain in the butt, all that work for nothing02:54
BanTamso i guess i will ask02:55
BanTamdoes anyone else know about MergedFB?02:55
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Ahmuckso i've been at 0.0% now for 10 min on the laptop battery bar02:59
dogma_!fr03:05
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:05
pat_Hi all, I am receiving a ton of these msg's: "bcm43xx: MAC suspend failed" I can access a term, but I can't start the gui, it fails at "initializing services". I just want to be able to get to the gui as I have an idea how to fix this if I can, any suggestions?03:05
tekteenpat_: bcm43xx is the wifi driver03:06
tekteenthey are unrelated03:06
tekteenpat_: as for X failing to start ...03:06
tekteen!X03:06
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:06
pat_tekteen: I understand that, and I believe I caused this because I was trying to get my wifi working. Now my new prob is that I cannot boot into the gui sinced I caused this problem03:06
tekteenoh03:07
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tekteenpat_: has the gui ever worked03:07
tekteen?03:07
pat_yes03:07
pat_this is a new install on a new laptop, so it was working until I tried to switch from wired internet to wifi03:07
tekteenpat_: what have you done lately? installed restricted drivers?03:08
tekteenfor the video I mean03:08
nosrednaekimpat_» can you get to the login screen?03:08
pat_last think i did was using knetworkmanager, I attempted to disconnect wired, switch to wireless, then when I restarted, it won't let me get past "initializing services", if I switch to a tty, I get constant msg's that I mentioned above, even while logged in03:09
pat_nosrednaekim: yes03:09
nosrednaekimpat_» its an unrelated problem... do you live in canada?03:10
pat_yes03:10
nosrednaekimbingo :)03:10
pat_huh? lol03:10
pat_kubuntu doesn't like people from Canada? :P03:10
tekteenpat_: try to type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a terminal03:11
nosrednaekimtekteen» no no!03:11
tekteenok03:11
tekteensorry03:11
nosrednaekimtekteen» have you heard of the lang-pack problem yet?03:11
tekteennope03:11
nosrednaekimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-kde-en/+bug/19564703:12
Daisuke_Idonot that canada's a bad place, there's a problem with the updated language pack for en-CA03:12
pat_nosrednaekim: I'm aware of that problem and did fix it (or so I think), can it pop up again?03:12
nosrednaekimpat_» seems its hitting again.... did you remove those two packages?03:12
nosrednaekimpat_» it may happen every time you update, i'm not sure03:12
pat_if it's the same thing I'm thinking of, it caused all my k menu options to have some weird strings before the item, i have resolved that03:12
nosrednaekimno..its different03:13
pat_I'll check the link, brb03:13
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nosrednaekimpat_» the command to remove it is "sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-base"03:15
draikIs there an app that helps in learning another language? Particularly Japanese03:16
pat_nosrednaekim: yep, that did it! Wow, so I had 2 diff probs at the same time. Now, anything I can do about the lang packs?03:16
nosrednaekimyup, uninstall the,03:16
nosrednaekim"them03:17
pat_Can i just select us-en and that will work?03:17
pat_they are now uninstalled03:17
nosrednaekimactually... this might work better "sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-en=1:7.10+20071120 language-pack-kde-en-base=1:7.10+20071012"03:17
nosrednaekimthat will install the old version03:17
pat_k, i'll give that a try, brb03:17
pat_ok, that worked. I was able to log out and relogin. Adept manager is suggesting I update to the new lang pack, I guess I don't want to do that then right?03:23
AgentZ86if you have Ubuntu installed, and want to install Kubuntu to a different partition with also it's own swap partition will Ubuntu get messed up ??03:23
BanTamadept manager always give me erros halfway through an upgrade03:24
BanTamerrors03:24
BanTamEVERY time03:24
BanTami shouldve known better and used the terminal03:24
pat_I'll seach that on google and see what more I can do about that. Thanks for your help nosrednaekim!03:24
pat_That temp solved my logging into the gui problem, now to solve my stupid broadcom prob. Other than these 2 issues, I'm very happy with gutsy :)03:25
nosrednaekimpat_» lol03:26
* BluesKaj vows to keep adept notifier hidden 'til this mess is cleaned up 03:27
noodles12AgentZ86: why do you want to do that? You can install kubuntu-desktop and just change the session when you login03:27
noodles12AgentZ86: kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome.03:28
jumpkickmy kubuntu desktop went blank (no desktop icons, but taskbar still), so I restarted X, now when I try to login to the desktop again from KDM, I get to "initializing system services", then X crashes and I'm back to KDM03:30
jumpkickis there some way I can troubleshoot this?03:30
mrunagikubuntu doesnt correct my spelling anymore03:31
AgentZ86noodles12: well, I'm not sure really I want to run the java app from www.fxcm.com and it's actually working, but when I open a position in my trade I can't set stops/limits, and someone told me they are using Kubuntu and they don't have a problem, so I wanted to test for myself. I don't know why it would be different, or why I can't use all the features of this trading platform, but I figured I would try it03:31
mrunagihow can i turn that back on03:31
noodles12jumpkick: i'd check in /var/log/syslog & /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:31
jumpkicknoodles12: thanks I'll tail both those and see what happens03:32
pat_jumpkick: I just had that prob and nosrednaekim solved it for me: uninstall lang packs doing this from a term: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-base03:32
noodles12AgentZ86: if it works fine in kubuntu just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu"     then log out. and change the session to kde and log back in. u should then be in "kubuntu" and try your ap03:33
AgentZ86noodles12: basically I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy and all works very well, however this java start app I thought worked, but after further review I noticed I could not set my stop/limit orders, the button just does not work. But the close position button does work.03:33
jumpkickpat_: I noticed those lang packs were updated and xine was uninstalled when I first logged in today03:34
jumpkickI'll give that a shot03:34
AgentZ86noodles12: thanks, but why would kubuntu be any different for this java app ?03:34
pat_same thing for me, that's when my probs started03:34
nosrednaekimjumpkick» yup... you canucks are getting hit hard this week:)03:34
AgentZ86I'll try it anyhow I have to see03:34
noodles12AgentZ86: I honestly have no idea on that issue. just trying ot save you from installing kubuntu on dif. partition. My guess is maybe something with the kdelibs or different default preferences in kubuntu03:34
pat_I had my lang pack set to en-ca (canada), I reinstalled them, set everything to en-us and it all appears to work fine now03:34
AgentZ86and sudo apt-get install kubuntu, won't harm my current Ubuntu installation ?03:35
pat_nosrednaekim: thanks again, this was my last stop before reinstalling. You saved me a couple of hours for sure :)03:35
nosrednaekimpat_» you are welcome....alot of people have been reinstalling.. and THEN coming here03:36
AgentZ86noodles12: and sudo apt-get install kubuntu, won't harm my current Ubuntu installation ?03:36
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» nope... and its "kubuntu-desktop"03:36
noodles12AgentZ86: kubuntu-desktop03:36
noodles12nvm he  beat me03:36
AgentZ86oh, ok thanks,03:36
noodles12AgentZ86: and no it won't.03:36
AgentZ86can I use the applications/add remove menu for that also ?03:36
jumpkicknosrednaekim - yeah I'm a Canadian... :D ...  removing language-pack-kde-en has resolved it03:37
pat_nosrednaekim: if anyone asks in the future, I've tested several ways now, it appears that if I select en-us and then upgrade, I'm not having those probs anymore. Since there isn't any difference between canada and the usa really, it's no big deal till they get this fixed03:37
AgentZ86or synaptic ? or just apt-get is the best ?03:37
jumpkickthanks everybody03:37
nosrednaekimpat_» yeah... thats probably best... or just switch to a US mirror03:37
noodles12AgentZ86: i think all the above. though kubuntu uses adept_manager instead of synaptic. you might already have it since you had ubuntu installed first.03:37
jumpkickpat_: we spell colour with a u03:37
jumpkick:P03:37
pat_jumpkick: and flavour, and aboot :P03:38
nosrednaekimjumpkick» well its about time you learned the correct spelling :)03:38
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jumpkicknosrednaekim: you better tell the Brits from whom we both got our language before you guys started mispelling everything... lol03:39
shaffyokay, help is needed.  today, after i installed the latest kubuntu updates, KDE login would no longer work -- an x-restart would happen at "loading desktop."  i reinstalled kubuntu just now, did an update from the repositories and i've gotten the same problem... is there something going on with the latest upgrades?03:39
jumpkickor should I say correcting everything03:40
pat_shaffy: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-base03:40
nosrednaekimshaffy» you are canadian....see aren't I smart?03:40
shaffynosrednaekim: yes, why???03:40
jumpkickwe are being desimated by the package updater...  hahaha03:40
shaffypat_: so there is a problem?03:40
nosrednaekimshaffy» kubuntu declared war of canucks yesterday03:41
pat_shaffy: yes, kubuntu doesn't like us canadians anymore :)03:41
shaffyhaha03:41
noodles12didn't know there were so many canadians in here =P03:41
pat_nosrednaekim: lol03:41
shaffylol03:41
shaffywhat's going on though?03:41
nosrednaekimthe lang-pack is screwed up03:41
shaffybut why just the canucks?03:41
jumpkickthe lang-pack update nuked us03:41
noodles12kubuntu officially stopped supporting canadians03:41
shaffylol03:42
shaffyyeah03:42
jumpkickbitterness over the dollar going to $1.01 is my bet03:42
pat_shaffy: after you do that, reinstall it, switch everything to en-us, upgrade, and no more problems (other than the fact you have to suffer americans dreadful spelling errors, lol)03:42
shaffypat_: they will fix it eventually, though?03:43
jumpkickthat and those US McDonald's dollar menu ads03:43
nosrednaekimshaffy» probably.03:43
pat_shaffy: I'm sure they will, nobody wants to suffer canadians fury :P03:43
shaffylol yeah03:43
nosrednaekimshaffy» its confirmed and they are working on it... BTW..... if you look at the error, its something about plurals or something ;)03:43
jumpkickshaffy: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en03:43
jumpkickfixed it for me03:43
jumpkickif you can get to a shell to do it03:44
shaffyokay.. so language-pack-kde-base does not need to be removed then?03:44
jumpkickdidn't exist on my system03:44
nosrednaekimshaffy» it may..not sure.03:44
nosrednaekimshaffy» try without03:44
AgentZ86installing kubuntu-desktop now via synaptic, and all dependencies which synaptic automatically selected fingers crossed03:44
shaffyokay, thanks everyone.  much appreciated.. i knew something was up.03:44
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» BTW... are you canadian?03:45
AgentZ86no03:45
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» awesome... you shouldn't have any problems then03:45
noodles12lol03:45
AgentZ86thanks03:45
mothow do i reconfigure xorg.conf?03:45
shaffyokay, later everyone.  thx.  i'll be back in a few mins.  peace.03:45
jumpkicklol03:46
nosrednaekimmot» "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" what is your problem?03:46
BluesKajlanguage-pack-kde-base must be removed as well03:46
BluesKajwe canadians gotta stick together ... someone owes us an apology for this mess :)03:47
jumpkickwe need a metapackage... so we can "sudo apt-get install help-canadians"03:47
AgentZ86crap it's asking for my default display manager ? I don't know what it is ?03:48
Picijumpkick: eh?03:48
jumpkickPici: to automatically remove the lang packs03:48
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» select gdm03:48
jumpkickeh03:48
AgentZ86thanks03:48
jumpkickkdm03:48
Pici:p03:48
jumpkickgdm is gnome03:48
jumpkickthe enemy!03:48
AgentZ86oh crap03:49
jumpkick:P03:49
StrangeletI accidentally removed everything on my KDE panel, now, I am trying to move things back into place, but applets such as the 'system tray' and 'taskbar' cannot seem to be moved. How do I move them?03:49
nosrednaekimjumpkick» but he is using ubuntu...03:49
AgentZ86I already have ubuntu installed so I want the kdm darn03:49
jumpkickit actually doesn't matter03:49
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» it doesn't matter03:49
jumpkickthey both will work fine03:49
AgentZ86where can I change it after the install finishes03:49
AgentZ86?03:49
jumpkick^^ - what he said03:49
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"03:50
noodles12AgentZ86: just log out. change session to kde. and log back in03:50
nosrednaekimnoodles12» I think he means the display manager03:50
noodles12oh.. my bad03:50
mrnotproper:q03:50
mrnotproperohh sorry..03:50
shaffyokay, i'm back.  so where do i change the language setting so i can do an update without my comp crashing?03:51
noodles12shouldn't he keep it as gdm? since he is just trying kubuntu . he already has ubuntu installed?03:51
AgentZ86yep when synaptic got to a point it asked which display manager I wanted kdm or gdm for default03:51
shaffychange it to american english i'm guessing?03:51
nosrednaekimshaffy» ya.... REAL english ;)03:51
shaffyhehe03:51
nosrednaekimshaffy» british english might actually be closer though03:51
jumpkicknon-english english03:52
jcgkffycsI there a global shortcut key combination toswitch desktops?03:52
nosrednaekimjcgkffycs» no, you can set one though03:52
jcgkffycshow? I have looked through all the config dialogues.03:52
PengOk. I'd like to install Kubuntu on a system with two hard drives in RAID 1, with partitions with some data on them. Can I reuse the partitions without losing data?03:52
AgentZ86so I wanted kdm ?? display manager right ?03:53
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» doesn't matter.03:53
AgentZ86once install completes I can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?03:53
noodles12AgentZ86: i don't think it03:53
AgentZ86doesn't matter, ok03:53
nosrednaekimPeng» yes, I think you can03:53
BluesKajbrit english and canadian english have the *our spellings in common03:54
jumpkickmy bet is it would be an update-alternatives03:54
AgentZ86I was just thinking to stay with the most pure kde as I can in my test of this java app. I want to see the difference between how it works with Ubuntu vs Kubuntu03:54
jumpkickAgentZ86: testing a java app doesn't matter03:54
jumpkick(I'm a java programmer @ work)03:54
Pengnosrednaekim: One thing is, the installer seems to be aware of the disk (/dev/sd*) devices, not the RAID devices..03:55
jumpkicklong as they both launch the KDE desktop the are the same03:55
nosrednaekimPeng» yes, I think you have to use the alternate installer to correctly set up the RAID03:55
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AgentZ86Jumpkick thats what I thought, but I'm missing a feature of an app. on my Ubuntu where someone else is using Kubuntu and has no problem,  and I dont' know why so I figured I would try the Kubuntu also to see if there was any difference on my end03:55
nosrednaekim!raid03:55
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto03:55
jumpkickboth gdm and kdm esseentially hand-off X to kwin, etc03:55
Pengnosrednaekim: The alternate installer? As in when booting, not "Start and install Kubuntu"?03:56
nosrednaekimPeng» another whole CD03:56
nosrednaekim!alternate03:56
ubotuThe Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal03:56
adredhello, why is it that theres no compiz icon after i installed it. i followed the instructions in help.kubuntu but its not working03:56
jumpkickAgentZ86: dependancies are a bit different for gnome desktop (gtk based) vs. kde desktop (qt-based)03:56
Pengnosrednaekim: I have the DVD, so it should have it. One boot entry is "alternate installer" or something.03:57
nosrednaekimadred» there IS no compiz icon.03:57
Pengnosrednaekim: Is the alternate installer a CLI?03:57
nosrednaekimPeng» ah... yeah thats probably it03:57
jumpkickAgentZ86: you might consider that you will still have the gnome dependancies if you are installing kde in addtion to gnome03:57
adredok, but i tried to run through run command by typing ccsm, it didn't load up03:58
jumpkickfor a true test you probably want to do a clean install of kubuntu (no gnome libs) inside a VM03:58
AgentZ86thats something I did consider that is why I was considering to install on a separate partition to try my test, but I really don't understand why a java app would work on Kubuntu and not on Ubuntu03:58
PengRight, it's a CLI...03:58
noodles12jumpkick: or he could install kubuntu-desktop. then go into kubuntu and remove ubuntu-destkop ?03:58
adredso how do i access compiz then?03:59
nosrednaekimadred» use "compiz --replace"03:59
AgentZ86I don't want to mess up my Ubuntu though I use this thing for work everyday03:59
adredi did it already..03:59
noodles12AgentZ86: i missed a bit of the chat. are you in kubuntu and tried the app?03:59
jumpkicknoodles12: he could but he doesn't want to mess up his gnome desktop03:59
AgentZ86no I'm in Ubuntu03:59
jumpkickAgentZ86: install vmware-server, put a kubuntu image in a vm and test04:00
AgentZ86Ubuntu, the app works, but there is like one right click feature with a menu that has one menu item disabled04:00
jumpkickdelete VM when done04:00
jumpkickoh04:00
AgentZ86I right click and I should be able to select stop/limit or close, and only the close button works in the trading platform04:00
jumpkickAgentZ86: eclipse-trader or something?04:01
AgentZ86Someone told me they use Kubuntu and the app works perfect, and the right click menu items work well, so I figured I try something with Kubuntu to see for myself04:01
jumpkicksounds fishy04:02
AgentZ86it's www.fxcm.com it's their java platform04:02
jumpkickmaybe you don't have permission or maybe the channel doesn't support it04:02
jumpkickor maybe time of day prevents it04:02
BluesKajok gents , after removing those language packs , evertime i run an install I get this :perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:LANGUAGE = (unset),:LC_ALL = (unset),LANG = "en_CA.UTF-8". perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")....I't's prolly just unimportant but zi'd still like to get rid of the warnings . ...any suggestions ?04:02
adredthe instructions say, KMenu->Settings-> CompizConfig...but i couldn't' find "CompizConfig icon nor link in the KMenu...:(04:02
AgentZ86but it says for apple users standalone platform or something, but it seems to all work but that feature,04:03
jumpkickBluesKaj: ignore it04:03
AgentZ86I'm guessing i have to restart to open kubuntu desktop huh ?04:03
nosrednaekimBluesKaj» install a us lang pack04:03
prince_jammysadred: try typing in terminal:::   ccsm04:04
AgentZ86be back after test04:04
jumpkickAgentZ86: log out / login or xnest04:04
AgentZ86thanks04:04
BluesKajthe US lang pack didn't work the previous install , nosrednaekim04:04
jumpkickxnest is how I tested kde404:04
adredit says ccsm is not currently installed04:04
nosrednaekimBluesKaj»^_^04:05
BluesKajit was broken too04:05
StrangeletI accidentally removed everything on my KDE panel, now, I am trying to move things back into place, but applets such as the 'system tray' and 'taskbar' cannot seem to be moved. How do I move them?04:05
adredive just installed it04:05
prince_jammysadred: try::   compiz --replace04:05
noodles12Strangelet: there should mea  small arrow towards buttom left of the applet. right click there to move04:05
adredi got this: Checking for Xgl: not present.04:06
adredNo whitelisted driver found04:06
adredaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity04:06
adredno /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting04:06
nosrednaekimbye guys.... good luck to you canadians....04:06
nosrednaekimadred» you have an ATI?04:06
adredyes04:06
BluesKajwell, bedtime for old guys ...this kubuntu sha-mozz has worn me out :)04:06
Strangeletnoodles12: I do not see any such arrows :(04:06
BluesKajnite all04:06
nosrednaekimadred» which driver are you using04:06
nosrednaekimnight BluesKaj04:06
noodles12Strangelet: it shows up when u put your mouse over it04:06
Strangeletnoodles12: not showing up04:07
adredi couldn't remember which one,.04:08
nosrednaekimadred» did you install it with the restricted-manager?04:09
adredi installed through console04:09
adredi installed it through console04:09
nosrednaekimadred» you downloaded it off the ATI website?04:10
oloughlin75I bet he apt-get'ed it04:10
adredno, i just stumbled on certain forum thread discussing about How To install ati drivers. i just followed whats written there04:11
noodles12AgentZ86: u in kubuntu now? how'd it go?04:11
AgentZ86hmm, It said on reboot I was using Kubuntu but I saw no selection for Gnome or KDE it just went to Kbuntu automatically ?04:11
nosrednaekimadred» ohhhh04:11
nosrednaekimbye guys04:11
adredsomething has gone wrong?04:11
noodles12AgentZ86: you change the session at the login screen to change between the two04:11
AgentZ86I can't tell anything really different desktop appears the same, still looks like Gnome04:12
AgentZ86I didn't see a selection to change anything I'll try again04:12
adredshould i redo it? maybe you a better idea on how to install it04:12
adredhave04:12
adredsudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx --> that's the one i used to install the ati driver04:16
KonnerHello04:35
StrangeletHow do I move my taskbar about? I cannot find any 'arrows' or anything of the sort when I hover my mouse around it.04:35
BanTamdid you try just dragging it with your mouse?04:35
noodles12Strangelet: the actual task bar you just click on and drag04:35
KonnerI need help setting up my Linksys WMP54GS Wireless card on Kubuntu.04:35
KonnerIm on Windows XP right now looking for help04:36
BanTamyou got to use ndiswrapper Konner04:36
BanTamwith windows drivers04:36
KonnerI have NO clue how to get NDISwrapper04:36
BanTamits easy04:36
Konnerand how to use it04:36
Strangelethehe, hallo again noodles12, yah, that moves the KDE menu bar, but that is all04:36
KonnerCan you help me then?04:36
BanTamgimme a sec to find the info for you04:37
BanTamsure04:37
Konnerok04:37
Konner=]04:37
tophatwtf mate04:38
BanTamkonner 1st you got to get ndiswrapper04:39
KonnerHow do i install ndiswrapper04:39
Konneri have it downloaded04:39
Konner\and extracted on my desktop04:39
BanTamhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper04:39
BanTamyou need 2 files04:39
KonnerWhich ones/04:39
BanTamNdiswrapper-common & ndiswrapper-utils04:39
Konnerohh04:40
Konneri have those04:40
Konnerinstalled04:40
Konneralready04:40
BanTamyou sure?04:40
Konneryeah04:40
BanTamok04:40
Konneri downlaoded thewm04:40
BanTamyou got your windows wifi drivers?04:40
Konneryes04:40
BanTamput them in your home folder04:40
KonnerAnd i accedently changed it to manual configureation04:40
BanTamdid you have your wifi working at all?04:41
Konnerno04:41
BanTamwhat did you change to manual?04:41
Konnerthe wireless04:41
Konneri changed it on accedent04:41
BanTamshouldnt be a problem04:41
BanTamok now go into a terminal04:41
Konnerim on windows.04:41
BanTamoh04:41
BanTamok well04:41
Konnerinternet not working on linux.04:41
BanTamnp04:42
r240can anyone help a total kubuntu newb? too many problems/questions to solve :/04:42
BanTamin terminal you need to type04:42
Daisuke_Ido!ask | r24004:42
ubotur240: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)04:42
BanTamndiswrapper -i  <nameof driver.inf>04:43
Konnerdo i need the <>04:43
r240let me take a deep breath04:43
BanTamCORRECTION04:43
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BanTamyou need to type04:43
BanTamsudo ndiswrapper -i  <nameof driver.inf>04:43
BanTamthen04:44
BanTamsudo modprobe ndiswrapper04:44
BanTamthen sudo ndiswrapper -m04:44
BanTamthat should be it04:44
Konnerdo i need the <> on it?04:44
BanTamno04:45
Konnerok04:45
Konnerill brb if i have any problem ill come back04:45
BanTamthen you right click on the network manager and you SHOULD see wireless networks available to you04:45
Konnerok04:45
KonnerBut its on manual04:45
Konneri dont see the wireless04:45
Konnertheres no wireless tab04:45
Konneror whatever04:45
BanTamknetwork manager?04:45
Konnertheres that04:46
BanTamthats it04:46
Konnerbut when i right click it04:46
Konnerit doesnt say04:46
KonnerWireless Networks04:46
Konnerit says wired04:46
BanTamit wonr say anything until there is a wireless network04:46
KonnerOk04:46
Konnerill brb04:46
BanTamk04:46
r2401) i have no sound. a quick look shows that soundblaster is detected, it just seems like the driver/module is not loaded for some reason. 2) i have no video either. it seems i have to install extra (forget what it's called now, restricted extra maybe?) package for codecs which apparently includes java which i am not sure if i want. I would probably want support for rm, mpg and the like as well. I have installed flash nonfree so in04:48
r240ternet streaming is fine. 3) i have firefox 2 but for some reason, every time i download something, the download manager will only allow me to save to root,home or desktop, none of my other two partitions are listed. 4) i need support to play mp3 as well04:48
mkquistr240: if u have no video and audio r u booting to shell?04:49
r240i am not even sure what that means -_-04:49
r240<--- total newb :/04:49
mkquistwell, u said u have no sound and u have no video...04:50
r240i can't play video and i have no sound04:50
mkquistr240: ahh.. ic now.. diff, yes youll need restricted see !medibuntu for that04:50
mkquist!medibuntu04:50
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org04:50
r240i have onboard sound as mobo beeps when i over-backspace in xchat04:50
r240i can grab restricted from adept yest?04:51
AgentZ86java app no different, in kde, I wonder why that one person can use it in Kubuntu, it's probably nothing to do with it, and more likely something to do with my java install or something04:51
mkquistr240: for sound i find this post useful - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544904:51
mkquistr240: yes, that side will tell you how04:51
AgentZ86well, thanks for the help all, chat at ya tomorrow04:51
mkquistr240: the medibuntu one that is04:52
r240so you know, i have read several pages on my sound problem already and i have only a headache to show. then again, i am a total newb @_@04:52
r240the cmds for console is killing me -_-04:53
r240anyways, let me read that link real quick. thank you04:53
regeyaheh04:53
mkquistr240: that page is really step by step04:53
r240ah04:53
r240i DID read that page04:53
r240i got to step 304:53
r240i have no idea how to find my driver from that link04:53
* regeya realizes that growing up in the AppleDOS and MS-DOS days was good for him04:53
KonnerI had a problem04:54
BanTam?04:54
* r240 just switched from windows four days ago04:54
regeyano longer?04:54
noodles12AgentZ86: you're back. i'm guesssing it didn't work04:54
KonnerI forgot to include the .sys file so it didnt complete the installation04:54
r240anyone help with step 3 please?04:54
Konnernow it says its already installed04:54
regeyar240: hang in there, you'll get it; sounds like you're determined so that's good04:54
BanTamlol04:54
shaffydoes anyone know how to set Krusader as the default file manager?04:55
BanTamok lemme think04:55
Konner:S04:56
regeyaheh, every new computer I've had since '98, I've had to fight with sound problems on (except the ones where I say 'to heck with this, my old sound card worked!' and throw that'un in)04:56
BanTamgoto /etc/ndiswrapper and delete the folder that has your drivers name on it04:56
KonnerIt says access denied i tried that04:56
BanTamand make sure all the files for your driver are available before you do it again04:56
r240the thing is my sound worked under v6 immediately after install04:57
Konneri put all the files in.04:57
r2407.1 not so lucky :/04:57
BanTamyou did sudo rm /etc/ndiswrapper/drivername?04:57
r240anyways, anyone can explain step 3 please?04:57
BanTamyou gotta do it as root04:57
Konneroh.04:57
BanTam:)04:57
regeyawell, r240 you can probably find your sound card under kinfocenter (under K menu -> system)  it'll likely be listed under pci04:58
noodles12r240: if i'm not mistaken. step 3 is jus tto go that site and look for chipset manufacturer of your card?04:58
regeyathat's essentially equiv. to running 'lspci' from the command line04:58
r240i know it's silly but i have no idea how to look for my chipset04:58
noodles12r240: or someting close to what you got from typing "lspci -v" in the konsole04:58
r240i can find my sound card but step 3 suggests i need to know the driver name?04:59
r240which i can't find04:59
regeyar240: and if you don't find it in kinfocenter or via lspci, if you still have windows installed, you can likely find it under the control panel04:59
r240apparently i have type 10 alsa emulation for my driver?05:00
regeyar240: lspci or kinfocenter will give you a list of the hardware on the pci bus.  unless you're using usb audio or something, that's where your sound card is likely to be, on the pci bus.  if you look for 'sound' or 'audio' or something similar, you can usually get a clue as to what chipset you have05:00
r240that's the thing, what is chipset?05:00
r240i have a soundblaster live 5.105:00
r240under kinfocenter, it lists a lot of info that i don't understand -_-05:01
regeyaok...hey, I think that's what I have.05:01
r240well then! show me what you know!05:01
regeya00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) <- yep05:01
regeyaso that's...05:01
r240where are you reading that?05:01
regeyaemu10k105:02
regeyar240: lspci05:02
regeyafrom the konsole05:02
r240ah, i am in kinfocenter05:02
r240let me get to konsole05:02
regeyain my case, my chipset is emu10k105:02
regeyait's also listed in kinfocenter05:02
regeyathe pci tab is just the output of lspci, I think05:02
r240where mine say emul10kl, it's listed under synth devices05:03
regeyaanyways, I wonder what your chipset is; my card was just supported pretty much out of the box05:03
KonnerI couldnt remove it05:03
Konnerit says its a directory05:03
r240ugh. it did for 6 but not for 7.105:03
BanTamok try this05:03
BanTamsudo ndiswrapper -e <drivername.inf>05:04
KonnerI removed the .inf05:04
Konnerbut i cant reemove the directory05:04
Konnerso it cant install05:04
r240so my chipset is emu10kl?05:04
BanTamtry that command05:04
Konnerk05:04
r240it says module emu10kl is not found05:06
r240but that's what's showing under lspci05:06
crimsun_snd-emu10k105:07
crimsun_emu10k1 is the OSS/Free's name.05:08
r240i typed sudo modprobe snd-emu10kl per step 405:09
r240it gave me fatal: module not found05:09
crimsun_r240: it's not an 'el'05:16
crimsun_r240: it's a 'one'05:16
KonnerAhh05:17
KonnerI got the drivers and stuff installed05:17
BanTamok05:17
Konnerbut the manual configuration doesnt work05:17
Konneri have it on that05:17
r240eee emmmmm uuuuuuuuu one zero kay ellll   right?05:17
Konneri cant choose my network05:17
Konner:(05:17
BanTamwhat happens when you right click on the network manager?05:17
KonnerIt says wired05:17
Konnerand below for wireless it says manual05:17
Daisuke_Laptopone zero kay one05:18
r240oh05:18
crimsun_r240: you seem to have missed my memo.  not l as in 'el' but 1 as in 'one'.05:18
BanTamhmm05:18
Konneri need to turn off manual configureation05:18
BanTamdid you try reboting after you install the drivers?05:18
KonnerIt worldnt work05:18
Konnerbecause of manual configureation05:18
Konneri need to turn that off05:19
hvgotcodesi just installed kde4 on regular ubuntu -- effects like shadows/translucency don't work -- is this a known issue or did i bork something up?05:19
r240hmm05:19
r240what should i expect or do i move on to step 5?05:19
r240let me try05:19
BanTamyou need to right clikc then go into options05:19
Daisuke_Laptophvgotcodes: the guys in #kubuntu-kde4 might have better luck helping you figure that out05:20
hvgotcodesthankyou05:20
BanTamand check off start knetmanager automatcially at startup05:20
KonnerWhat else after that05:20
Konnerok05:20
Konnerafter that?05:20
BanTamthat should do it05:20
Konnerok05:20
Konnerbrb05:20
BanTamk05:20
r240um05:21
r240what do i do after i type: sudo nano /etc/modules snd-emu10k1 ?05:22
r240it's giving me a weird menu thingy05:22
r240ooops05:23
r240i add snd-emu10k1 beneath fuse and lp?05:24
regeyawhoops, r240, was gone; wife is doing thesis, I made the mistake of setting up a postgres8.2 db with oobase as the frontend...heh05:24
* regeya has two different tech support hats on right now :->05:24
r240it's ok, others have been helpful05:25
regeyaeeeexcellent05:25
r240how do i exit module? should i save before i exit?05:25
* regeya realizes he had intended to go to bed nearly two hours ago...good night, all...05:26
Konneruhh05:31
BanTamwhats wrong?05:32
Konnerit didnt disable manual configuration05:32
BanTamlol05:32
Konnerstill says Manual05:32
BanTamok05:32
BanTamright click on it05:33
BanTamthe go into manual configuration05:33
r240help. how do i save module in konsole?05:33
KonnerI clicked that many times05:34
Konnerwhat do i do after05:34
BanTamwhat do you see?05:35
Konneruhh..05:35
BanTamafter you click on manual config what happens?05:35
KonnerAll it does is let me disable the connection or enable or config the connection05:35
BanTamit doens show you any wireless networks?05:36
Konnerno05:36
KonnerI cant pick any because of the manual configuration05:37
BanTamwhat happens when you left click on it?05:37
KonnerIt brings up some box saying no device05:38
BanTamim wondering if the dirvers are actually working05:38
KonnerIt all worked fine on ubuntu but i like the KDE enviroment05:39
BanTamyour going to have to go back into linux and at the terminal type iwconfig and see if it shows youe wifi adapter05:39
Konnerok05:39
KonnerAhhh05:43
BanTam?05:44
Konnerno it doesnt show i have a wireless device05:44
KonnerNo wonder.05:44
BanTamyou folled all the steps?05:44
BanTamfollowed?05:44
Konneryea05:44
Konnerh05:44
BanTamwhat happened after you entered sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?05:44
KonnerIt did nothing actualy05:45
BanTamok05:45
BanTamand then you finished by entering sudo ndiswrapper -m ?05:46
evilbugis there any way to stop touchpad tap-click without an external app? (there is no Touchpad tab in Mouse menu).05:46
KonnerYeah after that05:46
Konnerit regestered something05:46
beenerrm-fR ~ / .config / deluge can some one tell me what this does?05:46
BanTamyeah thats what tells it to start when you login05:46
BanTamwell im not sure beener but its going to delete something05:47
BanTamprob your deluge folder05:47
beeneri was told it was a solution to fix delugs loading problem05:47
BanTamyeah it will delete it05:47
BanTamlol05:47
BanTamthatll fix it alright05:47
beenerso it should only delet that folder?05:47
BanTamkonner: i would try running sudo modprobe ndiswrapper again, the after you enter that type iwconfig05:48
BanTamalso you type sudo ndiswrapper -l05:48
KonnerHmm05:48
BanTamit will tell you if it installed the driver you should see the drivers name05:49
beener?05:49
KonnerOk05:49
Konnerill brb again05:49
BanTamok05:49
Konneri hope this works05:49
Konnerx]05:49
BanTamme too05:49
BanTambeener whats wrong?05:49
Lynourebeener: without the space after rm, nothing. With a space DON'T DO IT.05:50
beenerit that im trying to help a friend and that the only solution i get but for an odd reson. when he ran it his free space went from 5 to 11 gigs05:50
beenerthis was before i asked05:50
Lynourebeener: it would delete your whole home because of there being extra spaces in the path.05:50
Lynoureunless it just gave an error, anyway, nothing you'd want.05:51
beenerdamn i thnk that what happend...05:51
anon32BanTam, welcome back05:52
BanTam:)05:52
BanTamthanks05:52
Lynourebeener: that's bad. I hope you had either backups or a brand new install...05:52
beenernope i know he didnt05:52
beenershould it only delete the home folder?05:52
Lynourebeener: it probably also tries to delete your /  (root filesystem)05:54
beenerdamn05:54
Lynourebeener: and .config and deluge, but at that point those would not be left anymore05:54
beenerwhen he told me it jump from 5 to 11 gigs05:55
beeneri told him to cut the power05:55
BanTamsomeone gave me a similiar command years ago in one of my many failed attempts to learn linux wiped out my entire drive05:55
StrangeletI cannot move many of the applets on my main KDE toolbar. The taskbar won't move either. The K Menu is virtually the only movable thing, And that is because it has an option. I am apparently supposed to see an 'arrow' or something of the sorts when I hover my mouse over it, but I see nothing. I also tried putting the applets back in, from left to right, taht did not work either. What can I do??05:55
BanTamtheres some real assh*les out there05:55
beenerso he booted it up and got to the mantance shell  ran fschk or sumthing along the lines. and now it boots fine05:56
BanTami need a ciggarette05:56
BanTambrb05:56
beenerhes just missing some music and movies now05:56
Lynourebeener: that one, in theory, could have been a botched  rm -rf ~/.config/deluge  , which would just remove the deluge directory and everything in it05:56
beenerhis whole home folder is basicly gone he said05:57
KonnerOk05:57
KonnerIm getting some airwaves going on05:57
KonnerxD05:57
Konnerit found it05:57
Konnerbut im not getting ANY connection05:57
Lynourebeener: best way to live with it is to consider it a learning experience. Lessons: 1) Do not run commands you are not sure about 2) Whitespace in commands is significant 3) Take backups regularly05:58
beenerif it runs now it not that bad, right? i know he can always get the files again.05:58
beeneryea05:58
Lynourebeener: and also it might help to know something similar happens to very very many people at some point of their Linux life05:59
KonnerBanTan05:59
beener... i knew they were harsh comands but it was the only "fix" i found05:59
beenerleast it boot now05:59
Konnerpssh06:00
billyBobOdoes anyone know if Wubi will be available for Kubuntu 8.04?  Or will kubuntu-desktop be needed to install afterwards?06:00
KonnerHelp now?06:00
Konnerx]06:00
beenerhe said all his stuff need to be configured again06:00
Konner=[06:00
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BanTamim back i needed a smoke break06:01
BanTamwhats happeneing?06:01
KonnerxD06:01
BanTamany luck?06:01
KonnerIt found a connection06:01
Konnerit was doing something06:01
BanTammagnificent06:01
BanTam;)06:01
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Konnerbut the manual config wasnt helping at all06:01
beenerdamn i just wish it happend to me instead of him.06:01
KonnerIt wouldnt conenct06:02
KonnerBut it was doing something06:02
BanTamis it wep protected?06:02
KonnerI might need to check the forums on how to disable this06:02
Konner:S06:02
Konneryeah its WEP06:02
BanTamid it prompt you for the key?06:02
KonnerNo06:02
Konnerit wouldnt do anything06:02
BanTamhrmm06:02
KonnerI couldnt conenct06:03
BanTamim really not too sure how to get that out of manual mode06:03
BanTamhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide06:03
BanTamtry there06:03
BanTami wish i could be of more help06:03
BanTamhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+sources/knetworkmanager/+gethelp06:05
BanTamKonner try this06:05
BanTamhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+question/1530806:06
Konnerok06:06
factotumIf I would like to install KDE (to play around with dolphin) and not install the whole blasted kubuntu suite, what should i be looking for as far as packages?06:07
beenerdoes anyone here know how to configure the setting on a torrent client to be optimized for you conection? (deluge is working now06:07
beener)06:07
factotumi did an apt-cache search kde and got quite a list06:07
BanTambeener when you 1st run deluge it shold run you through a wizard06:08
beenerit doesnt do the specifics though06:08
BanTamsuch as?06:09
beenerthe whole bandwith settings06:09
BanTamthen go into preferences and then into bandwidth06:09
beeneri had to have a friend do it before but i realy dont want to have him go through it again06:09
beenerer ill get him to do it again06:10
konneruhh06:10
konnerholy crap.06:10
BanTamit works?06:10
konnerit connected to the internet when i loged onto06:10
BanTamsweet06:10
konnerthats weird06:10
konnerneeded a restart06:10
BanTamyeah i was gonna mention that06:10
BanTamlol06:10
konnerthanks for your help!06:10
BanTamnp06:10
konnernow i can get wine downloaded06:10
ubuntuhi06:10
konner=]06:10
BanTamlol06:10
beenerLynoure thanks for you help06:10
ubuntui need help06:11
BanTamyou might wanna check for updatres too06:11
Lynourebeener: you are welcome06:11
Lynoureubuntu: just ask your question and probably someone on the channel will help you06:11
BanTamnot to get off topic but did anyone see the picture of john gotti before he died?06:11
BanTamOMG06:11
LynoureIf that's not off topic, I don't know what is :)06:12
BanTamlol06:12
BanTami said it was..lol06:12
LynoureBanTam: oh, I'm not native speaker of English, so "not to get off topic" sounded more like claiming it would not get things offtopic06:13
konnerhow do i check for updates with kubuntu06:13
konnerx]06:13
BanTamoh im sorry06:13
konnerim not familiar with the KDE06:13
konnerbut its so sexy06:13
BanTamwell i use the terminal06:13
konnerwhat do i type06:13
Lynourekonner: either with adept somehow, or   sudo apt-get update   from commandline06:13
BanTamsudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get upgrade06:13
BanTami dont use adept for u pdates i have nothing but probs with it06:14
BanTamit gives me errors halfway through the upgrade06:14
BanTamtype 1st: sudo apt-get update06:14
konnerNope aparently no updates06:14
BanTamthen: sudo apt-get upgrade06:14
konnerwhen i start the computer it says its up-to-date06:14
BanTamwell then your in good shape06:14
konner0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:14
konneris that good06:15
BanTamyes06:15
konnerok06:15
konner^_^06:15
BanTamunless you want the latest upgrades to kde06:15
BanTamthen you gotta add a repository06:16
BanTamevery time i see repository i think of suppositories06:16
BanTamlol06:16
konnerlmao now i cant install wine06:16
BanTam?06:16
konnerit says06:17
BanTamwhy not?06:17
BanTamsudo apt-get install wine06:17
konner0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:17
konnerwine: Depends: binfmt-support (>= 1.1.2) but it is not installable06:17
konnerE: Broken packages06:17
konner=/06:17
konnerAnd i downloaded that package06:17
konnerand  Gdebi just quits06:18
BanTamtry this in terminal06:18
konnerk\06:18
konnerk06:18
BanTamsudo dpkg --configure -a06:18
konnerdid nothing06:19
BanTamyou have synaptic ?06:19
konneruhh06:19
konnerwhats that06:19
konner:S06:19
Lynourekonner: that's like Adept, but for Gnome06:19
BanTampackage manager06:19
BanTamyoue in KDE right?06:20
BanTamyour06:20
konneryeah06:20
konnerKDE06:20
BanTamo go into the kmenu then into system06:20
konnerk06:20
BanTamsee if you got synaptic  package manage r in there06:20
konnerno06:20
konneri have Adept Manager06:21
BanTamk06:21
BanTamyou might be better off using automatix06:21
konnerwhats that06:21
Lynourekonner: sudo apt-get -f install   sometimes fixes such problems06:21
intelikey!automatix06:21
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »06:21
Lynoure!automatix06:21
Lynoureintelikey: :)06:22
intelikeysorry Lynoure didn't notice you were here.06:22
BanTamok forget i mentioned that06:22
BanTamlol06:22
Lynoureintelikey: you got it first, anyway, no need to wait for me :)06:22
BanTamthanks06:22
konnergo there>06:22
konneraww i dont feel like reading that06:23
konner>.<06:23
BanTamlol06:23
konnerIm tired06:23
BanTami haer ya06:24
konnerlike like 1 AM here06:24
BanTamsame here06:24
BanTamim in NY06:24
konnerIm in Oklahoma06:24
konnerlmao i need to set my clock on here06:25
konnerit keeps saying 22:0006:25
konneri need central time06:25
konnerx]06:25
intelikeylinux is not good for hardware clocks.06:25
konnerneither is my windows XP its always a hour ahead06:25
konnerxD06:25
BanTamlol06:26
konnerI had to reinstall everything like 5 times yesterday06:26
nick77 umount /dev/hdd106:26
nick77umount: /media/hdd1: device is busy06:26
nick77umount: /media/hdd1: device is busy06:26
nick77help?06:26
konneri found out i cant resize a linux partition without messing it up06:26
BanTam!envy06:27
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »06:27
mkquistkonner: was it ur system partition?06:27
intelikeynick77 so close the windows that are pointing to it.  and right click the icon on the desktop and tell it to umount06:27
konnerYeah the first time i installed Ubuntu it gave me only 7 GB and i tried resizing it06:27
nick77it was amarok.......... i closed it thanks06:28
kaminixHmm... the new kaffeine package is not compatible with the old kaffeine-xine package in repos. When I run aptitude full-upgrade it wants to remove kaffeine and kaffenie-xine, then when I reinstall kaffeine and then kaffeine-xine they get removed again.06:28
konnerthis is funny06:28
mkquistkonner: yeah that can be a problem06:28
konnerwhats with kubuntu and everything with a K06:28
intelikey!kde06:28
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.06:28
konnermy name is spelt with a K06:28
mkquistkonner: nothing funny, it just idenifies it from like gome... or xubuntu.. simple really06:29
intelikeykde = the K Desktop Environment06:29
konnerI still need some help installing Wine06:30
konner:S06:30
intelikeykonner sudo apt-get install wine06:30
konnerI did that06:30
konnerit says i need binfmt-support06:30
konneri downloaded te package06:30
konnerand Gdebi just quits06:31
BanTamdid you try sudo apt-get install wine ?06:31
intelikeykonner sudo apt-get -f install06:31
konnerI did that too06:31
intelikeywhat did it say ?06:31
intelikey!pastebin06:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:32
prince_jammys!wine | konner06:32
ubotukonner: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.06:32
konnerhmm06:35
konnerHow do i install .deb packages on kubuntu06:37
konnerthe Gdebi doesnt work well06:37
prince_jammyskonner: sudo dpkg -i packg_name.deb06:38
intelikeyprince_jammys no.06:38
intelikeyapt-get if possable.06:39
konnerwow06:39
konnerthats what i neded06:39
konnernow wine is downloading06:39
konner=]06:39
intelikeyi.e. using things not in the repos will cause problems later on.06:39
prince_jammysintelikey: is that not how one installs deb files?06:39
konnerit worked fine for me06:40
konnernow wine works06:40
intelikeyprince_jammys yes.  only meant that you should sujest trying apt.  didn't mean it as a rebuke.    sorry it came accross that way06:40
prince_jammysi already directed him to the link that goes through apt06:40
prince_jammysit's right up there06:40
konnerNow my windows products will work06:40
konner<306:41
prince_jammyskonner: intelikey is right - installing through apt is ideal and preferred06:41
prince_jammys!3rdparty06:41
ubotuPackages contained in 3rd party repositories are not included in Ubuntu for a reason. Whether this be poor packaging standards, bugs or malicious authors. You should trust the maintainers of these repositories before using them. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297814 for consequences.06:41
prince_jammysin this case, you should be fine, but going through repositories is always preferable06:42
intelikeyyes and wine is very well supported in the repos06:42
konnerI download .deb packages from packages.ubuntu.com06:43
prince_jammysthat's ok, but unnecessary06:43
konnerTHeres a easyer way to do it?06:43
prince_jammys!apt06:43
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:43
prince_jammysusing apt-geyt06:44
prince_jammysget06:44
konnerOh ok06:44
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konner=]06:44
prince_jammyseg sudo apt-get install yakuake06:44
konnerMight be fast too.06:44
konnerIs there a way to get Windows Live Messenger on linux?06:44
prince_jammysdeals with dependencies, downloads and installs06:44
konnerI dont like the msn clones it has06:44
konnerit doesnt connect directly to the windows live network06:45
prince_jammysthis i don't know about06:45
konnercrap =/06:45
prince_jammyskonner: try using "adept":: it's a gui front-end for apt06:45
prince_jammyskonner: there you can search for software by keyword06:46
prince_jammysthousands of packages06:46
prince_jammysthe command line version is:  apt-cache search keywords06:47
prince_jammysand once you see a package you like:  sudo apt-get install packg_name06:47
prince_jammysto remove: sudo apt-get remove packg_name06:47
prince_jammysto update the list from the repositories: sudo apt-get update06:48
prince_jammys:)06:48
prince_jammysbut you can do all this from gui using "adept" in your system meny06:48
prince_jammysu06:48
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konnerHmm06:49
konnerI cant find a msn clone or anything06:49
konner=/06:49
jussi01konner: kmess06:49
prince_jammys!info kmess06:49
ubotukmess (source: kmess): Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2652 kB06:49
prince_jammyskonner: see where it says "component universe"?06:50
intelikey!amsn06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:50
intelikey!find amsn06:50
ubotuFound: amsn06:50
jussi01!info amsn06:50
ubotuamsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB06:50
intelikeythere was an infonode on that.  but obviously it "was"06:50
prince_jammyskonner: there are several repositories, main, universe, multiverse, etc.06:50
jussi01!repo06:51
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories06:51
prince_jammyskonner: if you don't have for example "universe" enabled, you can also do that from Adept06:51
prince_jammysand you'll be able to install packages from that repository (aka repo)06:52
konnerim figureing out wine.06:53
intelikeyexample of an /etc/apt/sources.list file http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=dbe517a06:53
intelikeynote it's for the LTS not for the latest.  but only the key word is different.06:54
intelikeyhttp://tinyurl.com/ysx2kj heh.07:01
BanTami need to find out how to get MergedFB working07:02
BanTamits driving me crazy07:03
BanTam!mergedfb07:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mergedfb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:03
soontakgood day guys, i would like to know regarding usb gsm modem, do i need to install and module for my linux kernel ?07:04
jussi01soontak: you would need to give more info, such as make and model etc07:06
soontakmake and model ?07:08
r240trying to install restricted package...do i want sun java?07:09
intelikey!java | r24007:09
ubotur240: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:09
soontakbecause currently i'm using a gsm modem with my kubuntu, i heard somebody did mention that i need to load a module for my kernel 1st07:09
soontaki'm wondering which kermel module that i need to load07:10
soontakor somebody have a better guide on this ?07:10
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BanTamhmm interesting, no wonder i couldnt get mergedFB working its no longer supported in 7.10 they now use Xrandr07:16
BanTamill be a SOB07:16
BanTamallthem hours wasted07:16
BanTamlooks like thats tomorrows project07:17
BanTam:)07:17
intelikey"hours wasted" ?     a novel concept.07:17
BanTamwell yeah, all for nothing07:18
BanTamlike a dog chasing its tail07:18
BanTamlol never going to get anywhere07:18
intelikeyall is vanity!07:18
BanTamwell either way i wasted my time..lol07:19
intelikey:)07:19
BanTamlol07:19
BanTamwell at least i learned something07:19
BanTam2 things actually07:20
BanTami learned i cant use mergedfb and i learned i wasted my time as well as others07:20
intelikeywhich along with a buck two ninty five will purchase you a soda pop at the local convienance store.07:20
BanTamexactly!07:21
BanTam;)07:21
ere4sia buck two ninty five is funny money :)07:22
intelikey... and provoke delightful conversation about nothing.      as well.07:22
BanTamhahaha07:22
intelikeyere4si only on that side of the border07:22
ere4sihehe07:22
intelikeydid you guys read that blog i posted ?07:25
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ere4siintelikey, :)07:40
ere4siall irc suffer the same07:40
Daisuke_Idoi'd say...  a 50/50 mixed with a little Playlist -_-07:41
nick77what is the blog?07:41
intelikeyhttp://tinyurl.com/ysx2kj      sorry repost.07:44
intelikeyere4si pretty much   yes.   it's the "human factor"07:45
ere4siintelikey, everyone was a virgin once :)07:46
* intelikey wonders...07:46
Roy_MHi, I built some kernel modules one machine (an emulated image) and am trying to put them on another machine (a real embedded machine). However, when I do my modprobe command that inserts them, I get errors. I am starting to think that the images are not identical. See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57559/ for the output of "uname -a". Is it s big deal that one is i686 and the other is i586?07:54
Daisuke_Idoyeah, and this is probably not the place.  try ##linux07:56
intelikeyor #kernel07:56
intelikeybut yes the arch is important in "many" cases.07:56
Roy_Msure, thanks intelikey and Daisuke_Ido07:58
psilocydehello folks08:05
psilocydeneed help with adept package manager08:05
psilocydeit keeps trying to download open office core08:06
psilocydeand it locks adept durring install08:06
intelikey!adeptcrash | psilocyde08:06
ubotupsilocyde: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »08:06
psilocydety will try08:07
intelikeysudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade08:07
intelikeycommand line way to make sure you are "up2date"08:07
psilocydeic ty so which to try first?08:08
psilocydeuboto's or yours08:08
intelikeyorder is not important, except depending on the cause of your issue.    so try one.  if it fails try the other.08:09
psilocydeok08:09
intelikey!bot | psilocyde08:09
ubotupsilocyde: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:09
intelikey!all-knowing hehhe,  how comical.08:10
intelikey!all-knowing08:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about all-knowing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:10
intelikey!anything08:11
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.08:11
psilocydeon your rec i didsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade and i got  E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade08:12
Daisuke_Idoremove the install from that command08:12
psilocydek08:12
intelikeydid i type "install"   heh  oops08:12
Daisuke_Idointelikey: you've gotten your one mistake for the year, better shape up!08:12
psilocydelol08:13
intelikeysorry   it was a typo08:13
Daisuke_Idoand gnight everyone08:13
psilocydenight08:13
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido sure insult me an leave   ;/08:13
Daisuke_Idoi was only teasing you!08:14
intelikeythere seems to be an .* discrepancy between my /dev/brain and my /dev/stdin08:14
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido i       know       that     !         can't you take what ya dish out?   :)08:15
Daisuke_Idowell, it could be the time of day.  the daily maintenance cron jobs haven't kicked in yet have they?08:15
intelikeymine ?    heh.  no.08:16
Daisuke_Idosame08:16
intelikeyk   good[:localtime:]08:16
jussi01Hmmm, does anyone know how to create a mirror effect for a picture(read:icon)?08:17
psilocydeoh! i got another one08:18
psilocydemy fonts are HUGE when i log on08:18
psilocydeso much so that it makes them unreadable the log on screen unusable08:20
psilocydei just sort of wing it and type my pass blinde08:20
psilocydeok i got something back from the console08:21
psilocydePreconfiguring packages ...08:22
psilocydeE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly08:22
intelikeypsilocyde you need to find the error that caused that.   it will be above it somewhere08:23
psilocydeFetched 67.1MB in 3m30s (318kB/s)08:25
psilocydePreconfiguring packages ...08:25
psilocydeE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly08:25
psilocydefull copy of my console @ http://pastebin.com/m4f7ad2c708:28
intelikeyok    sudo apt-get install -f08:29
intelikeypastebin if it errors08:29
psilocydeok ty08:29
psilocydeit looks too be just giving me a list of apt commands http://pastebin.com/m517bffd708:34
jussi01Hmmm, my alt-tabis switching desktops, not apps, any idea on how to fix it?08:35
apparlehi08:36
apparlellutz: are you there??08:36
llutzapparle: ?08:36
apparlellutz: How to configure LIRC08:36
apparlellutz: ??08:37
intelikeypsilocyde umm   if i add an "install" then it's ok to remove it.   but when it actually belongs there.....    ummm     PUT IT BACK!    :)08:38
intelikey<intelikey> ok    sudo apt-get install -f08:38
intelikey<intelikey> pastebin if it errors08:38
intelikey<psilocyde> ok ty08:38
llutzapparle: have you installed lirc and attached a recevier?08:38
psilocydewait08:38
apparlellutz: Yes08:39
intelikeyyeah.  your pastebin pointed out that error.   "    1. psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo apt-get -f08:39
llutzapparle: kernel-module is loaded?08:39
apparlellutz: what is that08:40
apparlellutz: I installed .deb package08:40
llutzapparle: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy?highlight=(lirc)%7C(gutsy)#head-710472bedfd1154d9c9873ca6a20cc3e8a55069908:40
llutzapparle: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy08:41
apparlellutz: While installing I by mistake selected "None", I tried to reinstall it but could not get te dialog box again08:45
noaXessi want upload any file over a sh script.. over ftp... what to use for this?08:45
apparlellutz: ??08:47
intelikeypsilocyde how goes the war ?08:50
psilocydeoy08:50
psilocydeerr well08:50
llutzapparle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc08:51
intelikeypsilocyde:   tre bien?    tre mal?08:51
psilocydeit just stops at the commiting changes08:51
intelikeyshow me the last line08:51
llutzapparle: and plz stop your "??", i'll answer sooner or later08:52
psilocydeE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly08:52
apparlellutz: I am sorry.  :(  Actually I am anxious to get it work Sorry!!08:53
intelikeypsilocyde   sudo dpkg --configure -a > ~/error 2>&1                    then pastebin the content of ~/error08:53
apparlellutz: What should d to get the GUI frontend in KDE. What command??08:53
intelikeyit's very unusual for dpkg/apt to be this secretive about why it's having issues...08:54
llutzapparle: use search in adept, kdelirc sounds nice08:54
psilocydecould this line "40 not fully installed or removed." have anything to do with it?08:54
intelikeyno not really08:54
psilocydeoh08:54
intelikeypsilocyde we need to find the cause of that.   then that will work it's self out08:54
psilocydeoh08:55
apparlellutz: No I mean to say that what command should I use to get the "Choose Remote" as stated in thepage you told me?08:55
llutzapparle: depends on your receiver-hardware08:55
apparlellutz: I will talk to in 5 minutes. Connection will be reset08:56
intelikeyi'm thinking that it "may" have something to do with a "back-ported package"  but as of right now that's only speculation.08:56
intelikeyi have seen backports muddy the water before.08:57
psilocydeok08:57
psilocydelets fix it08:57
psilocydelol08:57
intelikeypsilocyde   sudo dpkg --configure -a > ~/error 2>&1                    then pastebin the content of ~/error08:58
psilocydek08:58
psilocydethe console is taking a long time to respond respond with that command09:01
intelikeyif it seems to have stopped for a long time "in seconds 50 or 60" focus on the terminal and type enter a few times.09:01
psilocydeok no need to pastbin09:01
psilocydei get     Bus error (core dumped)09:01
intelikeyoh that's cute.09:02
psilocydewhat09:02
intelikeyis the terminal still active ?09:02
psilocydeya09:02
intelikeyhas it returned to the prompt ?09:02
psilocydeyep09:02
intelikeyand cat ~/error   only contains the coredump message ?09:03
psilocydeyes09:03
intelikeyadept is not open is it ?09:03
psilocydepsilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a > ~/error 2>&109:03
psilocydeBus error (core dumped)09:03
psilocydepsilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$09:03
psilocydeno09:03
intelikeypsilocyde yes but look in the file       ~/error       just to make sure we didn't trap an error message in it.09:04
psilocydehow?09:04
intelikeycat ~/error09:04
psilocydeoh ok09:04
psilocydeim sorry, where do i find this cat ~/error file?09:06
psilocydeverry new to all this linux deal09:06
intelikeyor navigate to your home dir and click on error        the tild expands to the users home.09:06
intelikeybut simply typing in       cat ~/error        should have displaied09:07
apparlellutz: Tell me the command09:07
* intelikey ponders the "bus error"09:07
llutzapparle: read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=704005 and use google for more info09:07
psilocydewell i got nothing from the terminal, what do i use to open the file in the hom dir?09:08
intelikeyany text editor or the konqueror builtin viewer09:09
intelikeybut no need if it's empty.09:10
psilocydeempty09:11
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psilocydeyes its empty09:11
psilocydewould a bad sector do that?09:12
apparlellutz: Just tell me which remote to select in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy while installation, I wanna use homebrew serial IR receiver with TSOP1738. Please help. I understand thatyou are busy but please!! :)09:12
intelikeypsilocyde you mean fs corruption?  it might.     do a#      dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii' > ~/error ;cat /etc/apt/sources.list                # and pastebin   ~/error for me.   lets see if i can find anything there that might help.09:13
intelikeysorry.09:13
intelikeydpkg -l | grep -v '^ii' > ~/error ;cat /etc/apt/sources.list >> ~/error09:13
intelikeydon't think i only make one mistake per-year as signified by Daisuke_Ido  ;/09:14
psilocydeok09:16
psilocydehttp://pastebin.com/m4a1c5b0009:17
intelikeydid dpkg core dump again ?09:18
llutzapparle: i don't use lirc on a desktop pc. i just load lirc_serial and it works, but that is a special system09:19
intelikeyor did you only put one > on the cat command ?09:19
psilocydesec sorry09:19
apparleAnyone else here who uses LIRC09:20
* intelikey bx exclusively apparle 09:21
apparleintelikey: What did you say?09:24
intelikeysaid no not me.09:24
apparlewhat is bx09:26
psilocydehttp://pastebin.com/m2f7cb3ac09:27
intelikeyapparle bitchX09:28
intelikey!info bitchx09:28
ubotubitchx (source: ircii-pana): Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1515 kB, installed size 6524 kB09:28
psilocydewell i got to go to bed09:30
intelikeypsilocyde hmmmm    one more time       sudo dpkg --configure -a09:30
intelikeyif it core dumps or errors out just say which09:30
psilocydek09:30
psilocydeBus error (core dumpe09:31
psilocydeed)09:31
psilocydesigh09:31
intelikeyhmmm ok.   that does look kinda like an hard drive problem.09:31
psilocydeoh ya09:31
psilocydedamnit anyway09:31
psilocydelol09:31
psilocydeok09:31
intelikeyi can't put my fingure on anything else that would be doing that.  but i'm sure that there  are probably othere things.09:31
psilocydewell ill run spinright on it while i sleep09:32
psilocydethanks for the help man09:32
intelikeypsilocyde maybe when you do that it will find what's bugging you.     welcome.09:32
psilocydehope so09:32
psilocydenight09:32
intelikeyshalom09:32
flipstarwhich packages do i need to print ?09:33
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intelikeycupsys     should pull in all you need09:33
flipstari just installed cupsys, cupsys-driver-gutenprint but  still nothing..09:33
intelikeycan't setup the printer ?09:34
flipstarit is set up with system-config-printer but wont print09:34
Alohahow do i set konqueror as default file manager? dolphin sucks09:34
apparlesomeone please help with LIRC09:35
flipstar!dolphin > Aloha09:35
intelikeyflipstar use the printer admin tool and make sure it's not paused.09:35
Alohaflipstar: thnx09:35
flipstarprinter admin tool..?09:35
shankyhi, good morning09:35
intelikeyyeah should be in the kmenu system settings09:35
shankyI have kubuntu installed in a macbook09:36
stunatraAloha, ALT+F2: kcontrol, Go to File Associations. Under inode, select "directory" and move Konqueror to the top of the list.09:36
shankyeverything works fine but the external monitor09:36
flipstarintelikey: you mean gnome-cups-manager ?09:36
intelikeyflipstar actually no.  but that should work.09:37
Alohathat was easier than i thought it was going to be09:37
* Aloha loves KDE09:37
Alohaexcept for kde4... thats not kde... thats a monster09:37
intelikey:)09:37
intelikey"we have created a monster!"09:37
intelikey:)))09:37
flipstarno..it also wont print a test page ..09:38
shankywell I can get it working with my tft, but not with a digital projecto09:38
Alohaits like the devs were like "wow kde is really cool... lets butcher it"09:38
intelikeyflipstar usb connection ?09:38
flipstaryes09:38
intelikeyflipstar lsusb   make sure it recognized09:38
shankyprojector09:38
flipstarBus 003 Device 002: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer09:39
shankyis there a good tool to try the external vga connection to work?09:39
intelikeyflipstar what version of *buntu ?09:39
flipstarehm hardy ..09:39
intelikey;/09:39
flipstari thing i need some packages..i installed via debootstrap..09:40
* intelikey points at the hardy channel --->09:40
intelikeygo to your room! :|09:40
intelikey!hardy09:40
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu09:40
s2ai have KDEnlive on gutsy ubuntu...how do i use it to make a menu? i want a video to keep restarting in that menu and i alredy loaded that video in KDEnlive09:44
Alohahow do i open a file with a random extension, e.g. .foobar that is text to open in konqueror?09:44
Agent_bobright click ?09:46
shanky!xinerama09:47
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead09:47
Agent_bob!res | shanky also of interest.09:48
ubotushanky also of interest.: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:48
shankyAgent_bob: thanks09:48
sarahwhats the equivalent of "restricted drivers manager" in kubuntu?09:48
Agent_bob!restricted09:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:49
Agent_bobnot what you want.09:49
Agent_bob!nv09:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:49
apparlesarah: Restricted driver manager for kde is present in Gutsy, Do you have any ohter version?09:50
sarahnot nvidia, wireless drivers09:50
sarahhoary09:50
Agent_bob!wifi09:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:50
Agent_bobhoary ?09:50
Agent_bobsarah  that's not even supported any mofe.09:50
apparle!hoary09:50
ubotuUbuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) was the second release of Ubuntu.  End Of Life: October 31, 2006. See !eol for more details.09:50
Agent_bobmore09:50
sarah7.10 sorry09:51
sarahdont remember the name =p09:51
Agent_bob!gutsy09:51
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents09:51
apparlesarah: It is pre installed in gutsy09:51
sarahi see!09:51
Agent_bob!wifi | sarah other docs here might help too09:52
ubotusarah other docs here might help too: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:52
sarahthx09:52
apparlesome one help me with LIRC, I am unable to make neither head ofr tail of it09:53
pushaxwhat package is display & monitor control panel part in?  anyone know?09:54
apparlepushax: what do you wanna control or modify09:55
sarahhow would i do step 6 in offline installation?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy09:55
pushaxapparle: I've got a problem with my monitor section. It comes in error and therefor eI can't change the settings using gui09:55
pushaxapparle: I want to try reinstalling the package to see if it clears the issue09:56
apparlesarah: It is clearly stated09:56
apparlepushax: do you have any special drivers installed like ATI09:57
pushaxapparle: nope.  but I want to adjust my monitor to suit lcd09:57
pushaxarr I might try ti installl the ati driver and see if that fixes it.09:58
apparlepushax: but you need a ATI graphics card to install it  :D09:59
apparlesarah: Did you find it?09:59
pushaxapparle: yep got a radeon but it didn't detect properly and is listd as fire gl10:00
pushaxbrb10:00
pushaxapparle: thx for help10:00
apparlepushax: You installed fglrx drivers10:01
sarahapparle: ya thx10:01
apparle!ati10:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:01
apparlesarah: where are you from10:01
sarahwould using a 32 bit OS give me a big performance hit?10:01
sarahco usa10:01
jhend60Hello everyone10:02
jhend60I need desperate help. THe full description of my urgent problem is here. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/19606510:02
apparlesarah: what do you mean bu performance hit?10:02
* jhend60 SCREAMS Help PLEASE!10:03
sarahwhat would be the disadvantages of using normal kubuntu istead of 64 bit kubuntu? (i have amd64 processor)10:04
jussi01!patience | jhend6010:04
ubotujhend60: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:04
jhend60:(10:04
jhend60I have waited almost 2 months10:04
jhend60to get an answer to this remember10:05
apparlejhend60: I am unable to open your link10:05
jhend60its on my screen...10:05
jhend60U sure... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/19606510:05
jussi01jhend60: the changes in the live cd are not persistant, to get persidtant changes you need to install10:05
jhend60i know but i just cant without X working as im not that pro10:05
sarahjhend60: when you boot from the cd hit f6, and change splash to nosplash10:06
sarahworked for me =p10:06
flipstarproblem solved10:06
Garyjhend60, a live cd really requires more than 512 mb of ram10:06
jhend60yes well it shoudl bork anyways10:06
jhend60*work10:06
apparlejhend60: I am using my PC without sound for about 8 months and not acting like crazy10:06
jussi01apparle: curiosity q, which sound card?10:07
Alohaapparle: i got no sound either, i have an isa card that stopped working with gutsy :)10:07
jhend60ok then. my graphics has a page for linux and has some info. could some1 have a look at it as i dont reallyunderstand how it affects me10:08
jhend60http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intel810/sb/cs-009118.htm#POS1510:08
apparleI have ATI SB45010:08
jussi01apparle: can you pastebin the output of lspci for me?10:08
jhend60i need to download the driver, but I Cant install so it isnt permanent ( i need to reboot to make changes )10:09
jhend60as i cant install through the live cd ( x doesnt run) so i cant install and make changes10:10
Alohajussi01: http://pastebin.com/m217746eb10:10
jhend60I have tried to get the alternate but it wasnt for kubuntu only ubuntu10:10
apparlejussi01: I have too many number of problems> No net at home,Not working sound card, ATI card. Right now I am on a different PC. Will bring it tomorrow.10:11
jussi01apparle: sure10:12
jussi01Aloha: ummm, ??? where are you running that?10:12
jhend60https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/19606510:13
jhend60plz help10:13
Alohajussi01: i have a Ruby shell heh ;)10:13
jussi01!repeat | jhend6010:13
ubotujhend60: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience10:13
jhend60please dont use uboto10:13
jussi01Aloha: please run it in a bash shell10:13
jhend60ubotu10:13
jhend60it annoys me alot10:13
Alohajussi01: heh i was just playing around10:13
jussi01!guidelines > jhend60:10:13
jhend60!guidelines10:13
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:13
jussi01jhend60: you should have got that as a pm10:14
Alohajussi01: `lspci` works though ;)10:14
jhend60right...10:14
jhend60im not sure linux is just worth the trouble im having10:14
jussi01Aloha: could you pastebin the output of that for me?10:14
AlohaAloha: why?10:15
jussi01Aloha: you mentioned you didnt have sound.10:15
Agent_bobjhend60 it's not worth the trouble.    just use osX and forget it10:16
Alohajussi01: yeah because i have an isa card that doesn't want to work. lspci doesn't even see it10:16
jhend60i dont have osx10:16
jhend60no where near enough money10:16
jhend60im just really really sick of windows10:16
jussi01Aloha: got you ;)10:16
Agent_bobjhend60 did you try the boot opetion vga=normal nosplash      ?10:17
jhend60yes i have tried that10:17
Agent_bobdid you try safe graphics mode ?10:17
jussi01jhend60: if you need an alternate cd, the kubuntu one is here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/10:17
jhend60i think i will try the alternate.10:18
jhend60i have already downloaded.10:18
Agent_bobjhend60 also are you trying the 32 or 64 bit disk ?10:18
jhend6032 bit10:18
jhend60my pc is 32 bit10:18
Agent_bobhow much ram ?10:18
jhend60512 mb10:18
jhend60its stats are attatched to the bug report at10:18
jhend60https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/19606510:19
* squid0 is away: Gone away for now.10:19
jhend60and anyways, i prefer a GUI to text based, and what if it still wont work even after its installed!10:20
jhend60or is the alternate more of a windows xp boot isntall type thing that sorta looks like a gui but really basic10:21
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ZTeasAlo peeps10:21
jussi01!away > squid010:22
jhend60im sick of xp as every so often my explorer.exe crashes10:22
jhend60then loads again10:22
jhend60and i cant find a trace of any viruses10:22
jhend60and there are no similar things like this10:23
jussi01jhend60: this is not the place for windows help, please try ##windows for that10:23
squid0thanks, jussi01. I have changed my settings.10:23
jhend60i no10:23
jussi01squid0: :)10:23
jhend60sorry10:23
squid0:)10:23
pushaxapparle: thx fixed it by installing radeo driver and using old xor.conf.  the new install in alpha 5 wasn't liked for some reason.10:23
apparlepushax: which ATI driver. Please tell10:24
jhend60:( Why is my problem never solved? Ill try going into kubuntu one last time10:24
jussi01jhend60: so you know how to fix it from the command line (tty), correct?10:24
pushaxapparle repository xorg-server radeon driver10:24
jhend60by getting the updated package10:24
pushaxapparle: repository xorg-server radeon driver10:24
jhend60such as what pushax just said10:25
apparlepushax: which hardware card10:25
Agent_bobjhend60 safe graphics mode boot10:25
jhend60still doesnt work10:25
jhend60ive tried safe grapchis10:25
jussi01jhend60: great, so install via the alternate disk I linked you to, it will take you to the tty, update the package and its working, voila :)10:25
pushaxapparle: it still didn't work with the radeon driver as the xorg.xonf was faulty in hardy heron.  x70010:25
jhend60ok i will need to buy some cds just great...10:26
apparletell me which card do you have ATI Radeon xxxx10:26
jhend60oh no10:26
jhend60i have some rewritable dvds10:26
jhend60thanks all10:26
pushaxapparle: radeon x70010:26
jhend60ill be back some other time10:26
jhend6015 mins10:26
Agent_bobthanks for the warning.10:26
apparlehelp with LIRC please someone10:27
Agent_bob!info lirc10:28
ubotulirc (source: lirc): Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 353 kB, installed size 1720 kB10:28
apparlellutz: Are you there?10:28
Sbucatone_hello but zenity is for gnome and fo kde is there anotherone ?10:30
jussi01!info zenity10:30
ubotuzenity (source: zenity): Display graphical dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1738 kB, installed size 4196 kB10:30
Agent_bobapparle would http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=lirc%20howto&btnG=Search be of any use to you ?10:31
apparleSbucatone_: I think Kdialog10:31
danny_Hey, I am trying to play an mp3 in amarok but i get a error message "No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported." Anyone knows what this is?10:31
Agent_bob!demux10:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:31
Agent_bob!mp310:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:31
apparleSbucatone_: Does Kdialog good for you or should I suggest anything else10:34
remedialjoe_where are all the screensavers?  :(10:36
remedialjoe_i searched in add/remove.. and the ones from the gnome suite apparently don't work in kde anymore? :(  any suggestions10:37
t30_hello10:37
apparleremedialjoe: Do you want to install new Screensavers or configure what are already installed10:37
remedialjoe_apparle: install new ones ..  nice 3d animations etc .. i have nvidia drivers installed etc.. the default opengl screensavers work..10:38
pushaxshould python py files be executable attribute?  can someone check if wine has all there py files exec on?  in /var/lib/python-support/python2.510:38
pushaxplease10:39
remedialjoe_pushax:  i don't quite understand10:39
remedialjoe_i downloaded a python wifi applet and the .py just ran10:39
pushaxremedialjoe_: in /var/lib/python-support/python2.5 there are filename.py 's  do you have wine poython files that all have their executable stutus on?  I noticed some of mine aren't and I'm having problems with Wine.10:40
remedialjoe_pushax: what's the ls flag10:40
remedialjoe_which ls flag10:40
remedialjoe_will tell me the attributes10:41
pushaxremedialjoe_: only onw wine.py file is marked with x.  they rest are rw10:41
remedialjoe_yah i get what you are saying but when i type ls it just says filenames.. i need the switch for showing attributes/etc10:42
pushaxremedialjoe_: wineconfig.py is the one with x.10:42
remedialjoe_you aren't getting what i am saying10:43
apparleLIRC please help10:43
remedialjoe_when i type "ls" in that directory.. it's not giving me the flag10:43
remedialjoe_s10:43
llutzremedialjoe ls -l10:44
remedialjoe_ty llutz10:44
remedialjoe_pushax lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     52 Feb 25 21:37 wineconfig.py -> /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/wineconfig.py10:44
pushaxremedialjoe_:  thx.  is your lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     56 2008-02-27 00:46 winewrite.py -> /usr/share/python-support/guidance-backends/winewrite.py10:45
remedialjoe_yes and winewrite10:45
remedialjoe_er read*10:46
pushaxremedialjoe_: how about -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  17046 2008-02-27 00:45 winewrite.pyc10:46
remedialjoe_the pyc's are different .. all -rw-r--r--10:46
remedialjoe_with a 1 yah10:46
remedialjoe_just like that10:46
remedialjoe_looks like you are good10:47
pushaxremedialjoe_: arr ok. thx.  readin in cli is much better. I was not seeing th atributes properly in Krusader10:47
remedialjoe_np10:47
pushaxremedialjoe_: I wish ubuntu has a ftp of the default install, so people could inspect the default files and their modes.10:48
remedialjoe_remotely?  just ssh in and ls -l like llutz said10:48
lupulhi there. can i somehow install kde4 desktop effects in kde3? without compiz or beryl10:49
remedialjoe_well he said the ls -l part10:49
pushaxremedialjoe_: it's a wish that they had a ftp site that stored a default install for those that want to see the setting as they originally stand10:50
remedialjoe_pushax:  or you mean via gui .. and see it line by line?10:50
remedialjoe_ohh10:50
remedialjoe_well you could always run it inside virtualbox10:50
pushaxbrb. thx for help10:51
remedialjoe_i hear you tho10:51
remedialjoe_np gl10:51
remedialjoe_bedtime for bonzo.. will try to add neato krad screensavers tomorrow10:51
apparleanone help mw with lirc11:00
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ActionParsniphey all11:08
apparleActionParsnip: know anything about LIRC??11:09
ActionParsnipapparle, let me google. rings a bell11:09
ActionParsnipapparle, I know of it but never used it11:09
ActionParsnipwassup?11:09
* pushax is away: Gone away for now.11:10
apparleActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709159 See this11:11
apparlehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709159 help11:11
ActionParsnipapparle, what remote do you have?11:15
ActionParsnipapparle, and what are your options?11:16
ali3n51hello,  how to change bootsplash11:16
ali3n51any program to change bootsplash11:16
TimeTravellerI have a problem, i can log in with my user/pass but when i want to do a sudo it wont accept my password11:16
ActionParsnip!bootsplash | ali3n5111:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:17
ali3n51bootsplash is the same to bootscreen like windows11:17
ere4si!usplash | ali3n5111:17
ubotuali3n51: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork11:17
ActionParsnipali3n51, did you even google for the answer? http://jayant7k.blogspot.com/2007/06/change-boot-splash-screen-ubuntu.html11:17
ActionParsnipTimeTraveller, are you a member of adm?11:18
apparleActionParsnip: I cannot tell you right now as I am outside on a different computer. I have the remote of Philips DVP5106K11:19
TimeTravellerActionParsnip: probably not, i just installed this box11:20
vr074816ciao11:20
vr074816!addon11:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:20
vr074816!list11:20
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:20
ere4sivr074816, what are you chasing?11:21
theThemeHey everyone.  I have a file storage question.  I have a 2gb flash card that I use in my digial camera and I have a rather large file I'd like to transfer to a mac computer.  When I try to mount it in kubuntu it says it doesn't recognize the file system (which is labeled as vfat) Is there anyway I can write to this card and still be able to format it back in my camera for later use?11:21
ali3n51kubuntu linux is compatible valhalla linux11:22
ActionParsniptheTheme, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/ may help11:23
apparleIs there a way to protect a USB drive11:24
ActionParsnipis google down?11:24
ali3n51what is the difference between bootsplash and splash scrern11:24
ActionParsnipapparle, how do you mean protect?11:24
storbeckbootsplash and usplash is the same thing.11:25
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apparlemake a secure section which can be accessed only after a password. If wrong passord, access or deletion of files not possible11:26
theThemeThanks actionParsnip, I'll give that a try11:26
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ActionParsnipapparle, you could make yourself the owner thennot give any other user access using chmod11:30
flipstaryou could also encrypt it11:31
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amerigoBUONGIORNO A TUTTI11:49
harmental80is there a newbie-proof of upgrading to hardy?11:56
amerigoSHOT THE QUESTUION BUDDY11:57
jussi01harmental80: go read the topic in #ubuntu+1 ;)11:58
jussi01!caps | amerigo11:59
ubotuamerigo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.11:59
ere4si!caps | amerigo11:59
harmental80jussi01: thx11:59
amerigosorry... I care your ears...11:59
storbeckOoh, a Time Traveler12:05
PlantainForward Time Travellers to reception, Backward Time Travellers - you should know where to go.12:13
storbeckActionParsnip: If you're having the same trouble in kubuntu as you are in #windows, install the win32codecs :)12:14
Happy____join #arduino12:22
david_does Envy come with Gutsy?12:24
kaiDoes any one know how you can change how amarok handles artists12:25
flipstar!envy | david_12:25
ubotudavid_: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »12:25
kaiI have a lot mix tapes under various artists, how can I change it so it sees it as the name of the DJ?12:26
david_great thanks12:29
david_no such file or directory12:29
david_?12:30
jussi01david_: ?12:30
jussi01what did you just do?12:30
david_I put it konsole12:30
david_typed it12:30
jussi01what?12:30
david_ /msg ubotu binarydriver12:30
jussi01no, do that in irc :)12:30
david_lol, not what I was suposed to do, eh,  lol12:31
jussi01then the bot will message you about binary drivers12:31
jussi01:)12:31
david_lol oh ok12:31
david_ /msg ubotu binarydriver12:31
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jussi01david_: - the space12:31
david_ahh12:32
david_picky picky12:32
jussi01the / indicates a command, so needs to be the first character12:32
storbeckkai: http://debaday.debian.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/write-tags-selected.jpg12:34
storbeckSelect the tracks you want to change the artist on, open that menu list, and select the "edit 'artist' tag for selected tracks"12:34
david_"12:36
david_The software source for the package12:36
david_nvidia-glx-new12:36
david_is not enabled.12:36
david_how do I do that?12:37
kaiWhen I clickon the track I get the artist name and everything, but in the content pane it show as various artist there and when I use cover manger.12:38
kaiI found it12:40
kaiThanks tho12:40
kaiIf your right click in the content pane click on don't show under various artist12:41
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progewhile compiling mac80211 i get an error: Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/'12:55
progebut should'nt the Makefile be under /build?12:55
progeor am i lost? :)12:55
willis_You proberly need to install the various kernel header files perhaps.12:56
progehmm, u mean other than linux-header-"uname -r"?12:57
willis_Not sure. May be it wants other stuff.   Seems odd it wants a makefile  however.12:58
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progeok, well i'll just keep searching, thanks anyway :)13:00
jussi01proge: have you googled the exact error, usually there is some help there :)13:01
progeyeah i have :P13:01
willis_where did this mac80211 source come from? Could be some odd thing in it - that its wanting the full kjernel source.13:01
progebtw would it be hard to upgrade from 2.6.22-14generic to 2.6.24?13:01
jussi01!kernel13:02
ubotuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages13:02
progeintellinuxwireless.org willis_13:02
progeok thanks jussi01 guess i'll try and do that :P13:06
jussi01:)13:07
progeBelieve me, this isn't interesting at all <- this one there is just irresistible ^^13:08
antoUbuntu  france ?13:09
antoya quelqun13:09
progewould guess it's #ubuntu.fr? :S and for Kubuntu, #kubuntu.fr?13:09
antothx13:10
storbeck!fr13:10
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.13:10
progeok, well, near enough ;P13:10
billyBobOdoes anyone know if Wubi will be available for Kubuntu 8.04?  Or will kubuntu-desktop be needed to install afterwards?13:30
jussi01billyBobO: #ubuntu+1 is more likely to have an answer for you13:31
billyBobOjussi01: thanks!13:31
storbeckbillyBobO: Yes.13:32
storbeckhttp://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080224-wubi-arrives-a-look-at-ubuntu-8-04-alpha-5.html13:33
billyBobOyes, wubi for kubuntu as well, storbeck?  great, thank you!13:33
dogma!fr13:35
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.13:35
storbeckYes, billyBobO13:35
nicolahhi guys using kde is it possible to have *all* windows without top border ? (since I'm using a tiny notebook with low resolution) thanks13:38
storbeckkillall kwin13:39
storbeckgranted, you won't be able to move or close anything13:40
storbeckother than going to file -> close13:40
nicolahkilling kwin won't let me us  the alt+tab function to switch windows13:41
nicolah(just tested)13:42
storbeckInteresting13:42
nicolahyou understand that without top border and without top panel that's the only way to switch windows13:44
nicolahI'm using xandros+kde on the eeepc so I'm looking for  way to gain as much space as possible13:44
storbeckkillall kwin killed your top panel? as in your menubar?13:45
nicolahuhm let me try again13:46
nicolahI don't know if it kills the top panel because it's hidden and it shows whenever i reach the top left corner, but with kwin killed it does'nt show13:47
storbeckHm, weird. I wasn't aware it did that13:47
nicolahif I run kwin it shows again, so I don't know if it kills it of if it prevent from showing13:47
AndrewBHmm, where can I help translate kubuntu? I can't find it on launchpad13:48
storbeckWell, the window decorations are handled by kwin13:49
nicolahis there a way to tell kwin just to create windows without top border ?13:49
nicolahthat would make kde great for eeepc13:50
storbeckI know that when a lot of people install compiz they lose their window decorations13:59
storbeck(not intended)14:00
storbeckI suppose you could try to recreate the mistake14:00
nicolahuhm14:00
flipstarthat comes when they dont start an window decorator with compiz ..14:01
flipstaror even install so compiz can start it by itself ..14:01
storbeckEh, not always14:01
antohey homies14:01
storbeckSometimes the theme itself doesn't work right with compiz14:01
storbeckBut hey, it was just a suggestion14:02
storbeckIsn't there a default window decoration that you can pick that basically has no top border, except 3 buttons that stick out (min,max,x)14:03
storbeckOr maybe just deleting all the installed themes14:06
noaXesshi all14:07
noaXesswich pecl package i need to install over pear.. that i can use all the pecl features? pecl_http?14:08
nicolah#kde guys helped me setting the advanced window decorations for all windows without borders14:10
storbeckHow?14:11
kpenroseAnyone running openvpn?14:12
noaXessou.. sorry. wring channel :)14:13
Lynourekpenrose: unless you are taking a poll on it's popularity, just ask your question and someone might answer14:15
storbeckHaha14:16
tekstacyis there a "right" place to make a folder for all users to share?14:16
storbeckGood one, Lynoure14:16
Lynouretekstacy: Often giving full permission to a folder for all users is a bad idea, the place is not that standard as the result. Consider making one for group  users  instead, not likely that all your system users need to get there too14:19
kpenroseThe question is too long to type for an audience that can't help.14:19
nosrednaekimkpenrose» what?14:20
Lynourekpenrose: If you are taking a poll, I do like openvpn, but no, not using it currently (hmph, ciscos)14:20
tekstacyLynoure, ahh, makes sense. Thank you14:20
kpenroseI'll ask in the #openvpn channel14:20
Lynourekpenrose: I hope they'll help you then.14:21
flipstaris there an overview which shortcut is for which special letter ?14:22
kpenroseThanks14:22
tekstacySo I asked the guy in the BestBuy in Christiana,DE "Show me one of these new Linux machines".14:22
nosrednaekimtekstacy» eeepc's?14:22
Lynourekpenrose: "is anyone using foobar" is just not a good opening, because if all that have chime in it can cause quite a flood. and it still does not measure their ability to answer the question14:23
flipstarfoobar rocks :=)14:23
tekstacyyeah, and dell, and a few others are making them now14:23
tekstacyHe tells me "Linux is considered hacker tools and we don't support that"14:23
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nosrednaekimtekstacy» best buy sells dells?14:24
nosrednaekimtekstacy» lol14:24
tekstacyI told the guy linux isn't about hacking, but hackers use it because they're smart enough not to use vista14:27
nosrednaekimlinux is all about hacking..... it is NOT however, about cracking14:28
nosrednaekimbut try explaining that to a BEst Buy employee14:28
tekstacyyeah, but that point would have gone right over his head14:28
antofrench ?*14:29
tekstacyThey do have one k box for sale....    I got bored waiting for my friends14:29
nosrednaekimdid they have any linux machines though?14:29
nosrednaekim!anto14:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:29
nosrednaekim!fr14:29
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.14:29
tekstacyNone, no store I have ever seen in DE does14:30
Jahromeoremove - only removes the installed program ? but purge - removes program + install files? - am i getting that correctly?14:30
tekstacyI will be the first14:31
flipstarJahromeo: no..purge does remove completly14:31
nosrednaekimJahromeo» purge removes config files too14:31
flipstarbut only these in /etc/14:31
nosrednaekimright14:31
tekstacySo this week, I've been without a windows box for 6 months now.14:33
* nosrednaekim hasn't used windows (other than fixing freinds computers) for 3 years :)14:34
tekstacyTo you guys who hang out in here and answer the questions....14:34
tekstacyTHANK YOU GUYS14:34
nosrednaekimYou are very welcome... and i'm probably right in saying the first 2 weeks were the hardest?14:35
tekstacynosrednaekim, yes14:35
nosrednaekimtekstacy» missing windows programs or just learning how Linux works?14:36
tekstacyboth. But I learned how to use Wine, that helped alot14:37
nosrednaekimlong live WINE :)14:37
tekstacyAfter a week or so, I get used to "finding the answers" when things go bad, then it ges easy14:37
soussouhi all14:38
tekstacyHonestly, I am so f**king happy with this, it's like the fun I had first learning14:38
soussouis there a kde4 release in the works?14:38
nosrednaekimyep..... giyf.14:38
soussoutekstacy: what r u talking about?14:38
nosrednaekimsoussou» yeah... for hardy14:38
soussounosrednaekim: r u serious? I downloaded hardy alpha 5, and there's no kde4 desktop, just dolphin, and some packages14:39
soussoubut nothing really like a full fledged kde4 desktop14:39
AgentZ86HI all, fyi no effect on kubuntu and fxcm.com java app, same as ubuntu, my lack of that one button, (right click)(menu) stop/loss just doesn't work, but I"m going to do a fresh kubuntu on separate partition to confirm. Then I have to conclude it's something to do with my java installation or java webstart14:39
tekstacykubuntu in general, I noticed this morning it's been six months w/o windows14:39
nosrednaekimsoussou» there will be two cds for hardy.... kde3 and kde4, the kde4 CD is still int he works14:40
soussoucool, thanks for the good news14:40
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» or web browser?14:40
tekstacyif you just want to "check it out" openSUSE has a live cd w/ kde414:40
soussouI would hate seeing some other distro beating kubuntu to the punch14:40
nosrednaekimor use the Gutsy kde4 CD14:40
soussoutekstacy: I did try opensuse 11, it's kde4 for sure, but too buggy, it keeps crashing all the time14:41
flipstari just tried fedora9 ..was stable for me :)14:42
flipstarit comes with kde4 as default14:42
soussoudoes fedora9 have kde4 desktop?14:42
flipstaryes but it still is a alpha or something14:43
soussouwoow, I swear, I did download it, tried it in vbox, and gave it up, didn't see the point of another gnome distro, ubuntu beats the crap out of fedora14:43
tekstacyisn't fedora k?14:43
nosrednaekimtekstacy» no...mostly GNOME14:43
flipstarhaha i just used it to fix my kubuntu :)14:43
nosrednaekimthough they are trying to do a little more KDE14:43
flipstarit has kde4 ..14:44
AgentZ86I like K, best, but I've been using Ubuntu and have trouble deciding they both work so well now with just about all the apps I like to use14:44
nosrednaekimsoussou» BTW. you can grab the KDE 4.0.1  packages in hardy..14:44
nosrednaekimapt-get install kde4-core14:44
AgentZ86how can one choose between gnome or kde they are both good now14:44
JuJuBeeCan someone look at dmesg output and tell me if my USB drive is hozed? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57577/14:44
tekstacyI think someone gave a fedora w/ k cd, but I didn't care for fedora14:44
flipstarAgentZ86: just install both..14:44
soussounosrednaekim: does it install a kde4 desktop too?14:44
nosrednaekimsoussou» yup14:45
nosrednaekim!info kde4-core (hardy)14:45
soussounice, how does ir behave?14:45
ubotukde4-core (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 core modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB14:45
soussoustable enough to be considered for sure?14:45
nosrednaekimsoussou» its stable for me....(on gutsy)14:45
soussouI will give it a shot immediately, and report back in 30 minutes14:46
jussi01nosrednaekim: :)14:46
flipstarJuJuBee: /dev/sdb ?14:46
soussouI have ubuntu ultimate edition, with both desktops: kde + gnome14:46
flipstarlol ultimate edition14:46
nosrednaekimjussi01» but what is the factoid?14:46
JuJuBeeYes flipstar ( it is a flash drive )14:46
nosrednaekim^_^14:46
tekstacyI only have ubuntu home premium  :(14:46
jussi01langpack14:47
nosrednaekimok14:47
flipstarubuntu comes as ultimate as default :)14:47
soussouyep, UE is pretty decent, it comes with plenty of software14:47
Pici!ultimate14:47
ubotuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate14:47
jussi01!mint | soussou14:47
ubotusoussou: please see above14:47
soussouI like the art work too14:47
jussi01hehe14:47
wadGood morning.14:47
soussouI am not seeking support, and I am not a developer14:47
soussouI am here hanging out with fellow linux users14:48
nosrednaekim:)14:48
nosrednaekimmorning wad14:48
wadI'm trying to figure out how to connect my kubuntu laptop to my home WPA wireless network. Let me explain what I've done so far:14:48
soussouI don't see the point behind trashing UE, or mint, or any derived distros, they're all cousins14:48
jussi01soussou: you may find #kubuntu-offtopic more to your needs :)14:49
soussoujussi01: I am not seeking any help14:49
JuJuBeeflipstar : any suggestions ?14:49
soussoujust chilling with you boys14:49
JuJuBeeor is it toast ?14:49
soussouI am not trolling either14:49
wad1. When I bring my laptop between home and work, my network nettings would get completely munged. So eventually I just wiped out network manager, and wrote some scripts to connect me to my home wired LAN, work wired LAN, work wireless WEP network, or wireless PCMCIA sprint card. All good so far.14:49
flipstarJuJuBee: try fsck ..14:49
soussouso just be easy on me guys, OK?14:50
flipstarif you have ext3 you'll be lucky14:50
JuJuBeeThanks, never thought of that...14:50
JuJuBeeThe drive is not ext2, I think it is fat3214:50
soussoucan I ask a generla filesystem question too?14:50
JuJuBeeI use it between windows and linux14:50
flipstaroh ..14:51
soussouI have about 160 MB of free space14:51
nosrednaekimwad» use wpa-supplicant14:51
flipstarthen you might have some data loose..14:51
soussouhow do I claim it and make it part of my filesystem?14:51
wad2. But despite spending several hours trying to manually configure this laptop to connect to my home wireless WPA network, I have so far failed. So now I just did "apt-get install knetworkmanager" which installs networkmanager, and tinkered with the GUI settings. My objective is to get it to connect, then harvest the config files, so I can do it manually on my own.14:51
jussi01soussou: sure, just trying to get across that this is a support channel, not a place for general chatter (#kubuntu-offtopic)14:51
flipstarsoussou: try qtparted14:51
wadnosrednaekim: Of course. I've spent about an hour trying to get that to work.14:51
wadnosrednaekim: no joy so far.14:51
nosrednaekimwad» so have I..... the only thing that I found that works is Knetwrkmanager, as much as I hate it14:52
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soussoudoes formatting a partition automartically makes it part of the filesystem?14:52
soussou*automatically14:52
nosrednaekimsoussou» what filesystem?14:52
soussoulinux filesystem14:52
wadnosrednaekim: so, you got it to work! Can you give me some hints?14:52
nosrednaekimsoussou» well, it can be mounted.14:52
soussouI have a small chunk of my hard disk free14:52
flipstarno..not generally formating..try qtparted!14:53
wadnosrednaekim: I've tried several things, and I can't get it to show me a list of available networks. What's the magic?14:53
soussouvery small, about 160 MB14:53
nosrednaekimwad» no... knetworkmanager just worked.... though i'm not useing it right now (no WPA)14:53
wadrats.14:53
patoruzusorry..i felt: hey guys...i've been dragging this problem for a week now...i dont seem to find a solution: after i upgraded to kde 3.5.9 the kded process goes to the roof each time I plug an usb drive.....14:53
patoruzuany ideas?14:53
wadI'll killed knetworkmanager, and now I'm trying to resurrect it.14:53
JuJuBeeHow do I use dosfsck to check /dev/sdb ?14:53
nosrednaekimwad» no list of availalable netowrks? comment out everything in your /etc/network/interfaces14:53
wadnosrednaekim: okay!14:54
JuJuBeeor fsck if possible14:54
flipstarJuJuBee: fsck will automaticly try to determine..just type <sudo fsck /dev/sdb>14:54
wadnosrednaekim: anything else before I go offline and try it?14:54
nosrednaekim!diskcheck14:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about diskcheck - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:54
nosrednaekimwad» yeah... after editing it... kill knetowrkmanager and run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then restart knetworkmanager14:54
AgentZ86anyone- when installing kubuntu on seperate partition with Ubuntu on my first partition etc. should I create and use a seperate swap as well, or no problems using the same Ubuntu swap ??14:55
JuJuBeeflipstar : fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb14:55
JuJuBeeTells me the superblock could not be read...14:55
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» they can use the same swap as long as you don't hibernate14:55
wadnosrednaekim: allright. Thanks!14:55
flipstarerr then try fsck.vfat it was vfat or ?14:56
* wad goes offline14:56
soussounever mind, I tried qparted, that small chunk of free space doesn't even show14:56
AgentZ86hmm, I'll make seperate swap cause I don't know if I hybernate or not, I just use defaults14:56
AgentZ86thanks14:56
nosrednaekimAgentZ86» do you tell it to hibernate when you sut down?14:56
nosrednaekim*shut14:57
AgentZ86no14:57
nosrednaekimthen you don't14:57
AgentZ86thanks I just restart I don't think I've ever turned off the computer, and it just uses it's defaults whatever it has on it when I installed Ubuntu, I'm assuming Kubuntu will do the same, ??? right14:57
soussouwhat would be the best IDE for developing qt4 apps?14:58
soussouI know it's off topic, but I was wondering if anyone here does code using qt414:59
soussouand what IDE would they recommend14:59
soussoukdevelop?14:59
nosrednaekimsoussou» kdevelop4 (when it arrives)14:59
jussi01soussou: you would be better asking in #kubuntu-devel14:59
soussouhow about qdevelop?15:00
jussi01(politely)15:00
soussouI am there15:00
soussouthanks15:00
nosrednaekimsoussou» didn't know it existed :)15:00
Lynouresoussou: one can also use eclipse, Trolltech has a plugin thing for it15:01
JuJuBeeflipstar : fsck.vfat /dev/sdb  dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN Read 512 bytes at 0:Input/output error15:01
soussouthanks15:01
soussouwill try that one15:01
MartinCleaverhow do I tell how much space a ext3 filesystem is using without mounting it? When I use dumpe2fs -h /dev/VolGroup00/VMs I see Block count:    95,961,088 and Free blocks:   77,311,025, Block size:   4096, which to me makes me think 18,555,230 used * 4,096/1,024 = 74,604,920 bytes or (guessing) about 70GiB and 4,096*77,311,025 / 1024 = 316,665,958,400 bytes free, = ~ 310GiB free from a 95,961,088 * 4096 / 1024 = 383,844,352 = ~ 370GiB drive; have I d15:03
MartinCleaverune2fs seems to report in blocks too, I can't see anything that outputs in human grokable numbers that I can also feed to resize2fs15:03
flipstarJuJuBee: how big is the disc? are the data important if you all fits+you have time you might run <sudo badblocks -s -v -n /dev/sdb> if noone has a better idea..15:04
flipstarJuJuBee: but you did ran it with sudo ? the fsck ?15:05
JuJuBeeWhat will that do?  It is a 4G drive (I am pretty sure)  Yes used sudo...15:05
arschknacker1-irc.ubuntu.com15:06
wadIt worked! I'm on my WPA wireless network!!15:06
nosrednaekimwad» cool15:06
arschknacker1>)15:06
arschknacker1>(15:07
arschknacker1>((15:07
arschknacker1(<<<15:07
flipstarJuJuBee: you probably cant use this drive as a internal ?15:07
arschknacker1<(15:07
JuJuBeeHow do you mean internal?15:07
wadBut... I'd like to be able to do this without the network manager interfering. Do you know where these settings are stored? Can I do something in /etc/network/interfaces to make it work, once I throw out network manager?15:07
patoruzuanybody?15:07
nosrednaekimarschknacker1» this is a support channel... not a channel to try out your latest smilies15:07
jpatrickarschknacker1: please do not do that15:08
JuJuBeeIt is a flash stick15:08
wadLike an "ifup wlan0" sort of thing. :)15:08
flipstaroh15:08
wadmy /etc/network/interfaces is empty.15:08
nosrednaekimwad» possibly... you have to look at the wpa-supplicant config file knetwork manager writes15:08
jpatrickarschknacker1: and please change your nick to something more politer15:08
JuJuBeebadblocks running now...15:08
wadnosrednaekim: okay!15:08
JuJuBeeup to 4000015:08
nosrednaekimwad» though I don't know where the heck that is ;)15:08
wadI found them.15:09
wadI think.15:09
flipstaryou killes him15:09
arschknacker1on't know where the heck that is15:09
flipstarJuJuBee: the number at the end is important..15:13
BluesKajHowdy all :)15:13
flipstarhi15:14
JuJuBeeflipstar : at the end of the test?15:14
flipstaryep..15:14
JuJuBeeI assume that by block they mean 1K block?15:14
flipstaryes15:14
JuJuBeeso 4GB = 4,000,000 blocks?15:15
BluesKajwhat's right way to have more than one kate text file open simultaneously on the desktop ?15:15
flipstarJuJuBee: yes15:15
JuJuBeeDamn... only up to 216,00015:15
flipstarBluesKaj: you want all text in one window or all in seperate windows? can you set it in kate-->setting-->sessions15:16
flipstarJuJuBee: hm you cant mount it anyway ?15:18
BluesKajflipstar , seperate windows15:18
JuJuBeewouldnt mount it15:18
JuJuBeewill not using -v make it go faster?15:18
flipstar-v is for --verbose ..15:19
JuJuBeemount: /dev/sdb: can't read superblock15:20
flipstarmount -t fat maybe ?15:21
JuJuBee-t vfat15:21
flipstarhm you could try to replicate it with dd and then reformat..15:22
JuJuBeenever used dd to replicate a drive to a image...15:23
BluesKajyes flipstar ,but what's the option in sessions ?15:23
tekstacyBye all15:24
JuJuBeeflipstar : dd if=/dev/sdb | gzip > flash_dirve.img.gz15:25
JuJuBeedd: reading `/dev/sdb': Input/output error15:25
JuJuBee0+0 records in15:25
JuJuBee0+0 records out  0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.0167365 seconds, 0.0 kB/s15:25
flipstar:/15:26
mrunagi_what would the command line string be to extract files from a zip?15:27
tcm_mrunagi_: unzip foo.zip15:32
mrunagi_sigh15:32
mrunagi_im getting an error15:32
mrunagi_this is no good15:32
geniiLikely file is corrupt15:33
vijay_hi15:33
mrunagi_that makes me sad15:34
vijay_can any1 tell me . why i m getting slow net speed then win?15:35
flipstarhttp://www.speedguide.net:808015:37
raulhi! can anyone tell me why i cannot use java in Kubuntu (at least in the beta Hardy?)15:38
raulis that a bug... or is it just that the version that is compatible is not available yet?15:39
geniiraul: Ask in #ubuntu+115:41
BluesKajgenii, what's right way to have more than one kate text file open simultaneously on the desktop, cant open more than one at a time ?15:44
geniiBluesKaj: I mainly use nano, so not much help :)15:44
Daisuke_Idonano?  not vi?  not emacs?  you must not be cool then -_-15:45
BluesKaj<--old windows excel etc so , i need my desktop "fix"15:47
amerigorooms15:47
geniiDaisuke_Ido: I use emacs when I'm ssh'd into our bsd servers, vi when I have to use vipw or visudo...otherwise I like the lowly old nano :)15:47
Daisuke_Idogenii: only kidding...  i have no room to talk, i use gedit or kate, depending on the environment, nano if i'm in ssh15:48
* BluesKaj wonders why kate allows only one instance of open text file on desktop 15:48
BluesKajsomething about sessions but there doesn't seem to be any options that make sense to me15:49
geniiBluesKaj: The same file opened twice or 2 different files?15:49
BluesKajdifferent files15:49
BluesKajlike copy & pasting back & forth etc15:49
flipstaron ->window->new windows you can duplicate it..15:50
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mefisto__I have a kaffeine update that wants to remove kaffeine-xine. Does that sound right? is the kaffeine package update repacing the old kaffeine package AND the kaffeine-xine package?15:50
mefisto__*replacing15:50
geniiBluesKaj: The new window, then opening another file in the new window worked for me15:51
jetsaredimis it my imagination or does the new version of kaffeine not need kaffeine-xine?15:53
mefisto__jetsaredim: just what I was asking about15:53
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jetsaredimmefisto__: was thinking that since xine is the default engine that maybe it got incorporated into the main package15:55
BluesKajit's kaffeine-xine in the 0.8.5 version15:55
jetsaredimyea - the version i'm seeing in my adept window is 0.8.6-0ubuntu3~gutsy115:55
mefisto__jetsaredim: I think you're right, but it would be nice if someone could confirm this15:55
jetsaredimyea - there's nothing in the changelog15:56
Waterstoffwell15:56
Waterstoffperhaps you should update15:56
Waterstoffand try using it15:56
Waterstoffand if it works15:56
Waterstoffyou have your answer15:56
Waterstoffif it doesn't work, you have your answer15:56
BluesKajjetsaredim:  you on hardy ?15:56
jetsaredimBluesKaj: nope15:56
BluesKaj!enter | Waterstoff15:57
ubotuWaterstoff: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:57
DragnslcrI noticed the same thing this morning. I haven't had a chance to try Kaffeine though15:57
flipstarremoving kaffeine was one of the first things i did..15:57
Waterstoff!annoying | BluesKaj15:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about annoying - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:57
jetsaredimflipstar: y?15:58
Waterstoffcodeine++15:58
flipstari prefer gmplayer & vlc15:58
Waterstoff!english | jetsaredim15:58
ubotujetsaredim: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat15:58
BluesKajI'm using the default version ...just did a clean install and adept notifier is on ice ATM...I don't trust the upgrades after the update fiasco of the last 2 days15:58
jetsaredimWaterstoff: ?15:59
flipstaraside from that kaffeine always did crashed in the past :/15:59
Waterstoffjetsaredim: I don't believe the word "y" exists in the english language.15:59
mefisto__Waterstoff: how does this help anyone?16:00
jetsaredimphonetically, y == why16:00
Waterstoffmhmm16:01
WaterstoffI was talking about the fact that english was required in this channel16:01
WaterstoffI don't speak phonetic16:01
mefisto__Waterstoff: so you mistook if for french?16:02
khaije1it seems like evms is dead, but are there any successor/replacements?16:02
flipstarwhat actually is evms ?16:03
khaije1!evms16:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about evms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:03
jetsaredimhttp://evms.sourceforge.net/, methinks16:03
khaije1oh, it's a storage management layer16:04
khaije1thats it16:04
mefisto__Dragnslcr: so you've applied the kaffeine update that removed kaffeine-xine?16:04
Dragnslcrmefisto__- yeah, but I haven't tried using Kaffeine yet16:04
khaije1it was designed to make it really simple and consistent to setup any kinda arrangement from, typical setup to super lvm2 features all through one interface16:05
Waterstoffmefisto__: no, I correctly understood it as not english16:05
flipstarand it doesnt exist anymore..?16:05
khaije1it's looking like i'll need some sort of raid on my home machine, i'm just not looking forward to learning a whole new set of commands that i'll rarely use and that punish mistakes harshly16:06
mefisto__Dragnslcr: if you could try it for us now and confirm it still works without kaffeine-xine, that would settle the question16:06
jetsaredimDragnslcr: yea - that would be great - if you could16:06
DragnslcrExcept I'm remoted in to my computer, so it'll be at least 6 hours16:07
flipstarkhaije1: theres a proggy that does all the raid stuff for you :) >>dmraid16:07
jetsaredimdoh16:07
DragnslcrHow about you try it yourselves?16:07
jetsaredimi'm in the middle of using kaffeine16:07
MinnozzHi, does anybody know a good way to minimize Mozilla Thunderbird to the system tray?16:07
sivaji please help me i just directed the output of "history" command to a file called "sample" then i tried "sh sample" .this thing has removed all the files in /home/sivaji dir  now i dont have anyfile in home/sivaji directory is there anyway to restore those files16:08
khaije1flipstar: ok thanks, i'll check that out, evms seemed so promising. oh well! :-)16:08
mefisto__Minnozz: see "ksystraycmd --help" that might do what you want16:09
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flipstarsivaji: you might look at :trash/ but i dont know how this script removed the files..btw what did you tried there ? oO16:11
glukhi all16:11
glukbye all16:11
Minnozzmefisto__: thanks, but isn't there something like a plugin for thunderbird?16:12
jetsaredimflipstar sivaji I think trash:/ is only if you removed the files through konqueror16:12
flipstarMinnozz: it should be possible in thunderbird itself..16:12
flipstarmaybe it just mv'd it16:12
sivajiflipstar jetsaredim nothing is there  in trash16:12
mefisto__Minnozz: last I checked, there was a windows-only extension that does that16:12
and80hi all16:13
jetsaredimMinnozz: the thunderbird biff extension throws a popup when new mail comes in16:13
sivajijetsaredim yes you are correct16:13
and80I have just installed kubuntu on a macbookpro16:13
and80but I have a problem setting up the keyboard layout16:13
and80the system settings gui seems to not work16:14
jetsaredimsivaji: I hate to tell you but I think you are out of luck16:14
Minnozzjetsaredim: Yes it already does that, but I want it in the system tray, not the taskbar16:14
sivajihow to create a icon in /home/sivaji that points to Desktop16:15
sivaji?16:15
flipstar!find recover | Minnozz16:15
ubotuminnozz: Found: friendly-recovery, recover, recoverjpeg16:15
jetsaredimMinnozz: sounds like you need to learn how to make tb extensions :)16:15
Minnozzupz :P16:16
mefisto__Minnozz: there's also a checkbox in the menu editor to place an app in the system tray16:16
Minnozzmefisto__: hmm, where can I find that?16:19
flipstaris there an alternative for vnstat?16:19
mefisto__Minnozz: right-click on kmenu button, or type "kmenuedit"16:20
Minnozzmefisto__: ah I see, thanks a lot!16:21
jetsaredimmefisto__: I don't see that it actually did anything16:24
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jetsaredimI take that back16:24
glukhi all\16:24
glukI need help16:25
mefisto__jetsaredim: you mean the kaffeine update?16:25
jpatrick!ask | gluk16:25
ubotugluk: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)16:25
jetsaredimmefisto__: no the tb tray thing16:25
gluki configure internet ih ubuntu just now. but only IRC and ping works, no browser or any other program. P.S. I am absolutely newble P.S.2 sorry my english16:28
gluk*in ubuntu16:28
flipstarubuntu? --> #ubuntu16:30
glukkubuntu16:30
flipstaroh16:30
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Daisuke_Idogluk: konqueror not working?16:31
jetsaredimgluk: when you say configured - do you mean through the knetworkmanager or through system settings?16:31
Daisuke_Idojetsaredim: i'd wager his net's working.  why hasn't a bug report been filed on konqueror for that?  or has it and it's just being ignored16:31
Daisuke_Idoit's a proxy thing, i believe16:31
_Angelus_guys16:31
_Angelus_will i lose my uptime if i suspend to ram?16:31
Daisuke_Ido_Angelus_: let me find out16:32
_Angelus_ok16:32
gluksystem settings, not knetworkmanager16:32
Daisuke_Laptopshoot, can't tell...  i had to reboot this thing yesterday16:32
Daisuke_Laptopi don't think you do though16:33
glukyeah, konqueror and Akredator not working16:33
flipstargluk: did you specified a proxy ?16:33
jetsaredimgluk: what does your network setup look like? static or dynamic? proxies?16:33
Daisuke_Laptopjetsaredim: completely irrelevant.16:33
jetsaredimDaisuke_Laptop: ?16:33
Daisuke_Laptopjetsaredim: it's a problem with konqueror, not his connection16:34
Daisuke_Laptophe's here, his connection is obviously okay :)16:34
glukno, I dont use it // I using an GPRS connection, via mobile phone.16:34
Daisuke_Laptopproxies yes :)16:34
Daisuke_Laptopi missed that in your response, i apologize16:34
Daisuke_Laptopgluk: from a terminal, sudo apt-get install firefox16:35
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coggzplease help me with my wireless.16:35
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glukok, i will try it now16:35
flipstargluk: are there servers in /etc/resolv.conf ? try cat /etc/resolv.conf16:35
flipstar!wireless > coggz16:35
coggzok, my wireless no longer shows up in knetworkmanager16:36
PiddyCan anyone help me with kopete please?16:37
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coggzdoes it crash when u connect to msn?16:37
PiddyNo, it says the pass is wrong.16:37
coggzoh,16:37
PiddyAlthough it's not. Works at hotmail.16:37
glukthere are no firefox packet here16:37
coggzcan anyone help with wireless16:38
jetsaredimis it working at all?16:38
flipstarinstalling packages might requiere an working connection..16:38
glukthere are only "nameserver 213.87.0.7" and "nameserver 213.87.1.1" in /etc/resolv.conf16:39
flipstarokay..so this is not the problem..16:39
flipstardid you specified a proxy ?16:39
coggzjetsaredim: no, not at all. I had it working fine (using ndiswrapper)16:41
colonelhi everyone !16:41
colonelmay I ask a question ? I:d like to install VLC on Kubunctu...16:42
coloneladept doesn:t seem to find the package..16:42
colonel??16:42
jetsaredimcoggz: what did you change?16:42
Lynourecolonel: it should be in the  universe  repository16:43
Lynourecolonel: do you have that repository in use?16:43
gluki dont use proxy16:43
coggznothing, one day i hibernate it, then i open up and bang! it's gone. Does not show up as a device16:43
colonelwhat is this ? i don:t know16:43
colonelis it something to add to a list ?16:44
flipstarcolonel you have to use the universe source for that16:44
gluki can ping www.google.com, but i couldn't visit it with browser..16:45
flipstaryou probably need to add it16:45
colonelok, thank you guys, i will try this16:45
flipstargluk: would be great if you could try another browser ..16:45
Lynourecolonel:  sudo kate /etc/sources.list  and uncomment the lines with universe  :)16:46
Lynourecolonel: oops,   kdesu kate /etc/sources.list16:46
colonelthanks  times !! ;-016:46
Sbucatone_Lynoure: /etc/apt/sor16:47
glukwill Dolphin works with internet?16:47
Sbucatone_i think no16:47
jetsaredimtry lynx16:48
gluki hewen't it16:48
gluk*have not16:48
Sbucatone_gluk: konqueror does't work ?16:49
glukno16:49
Sbucatone_gluk: try to disable cache16:49
glukit doesn't16:49
Sbucatone_gluk: :) i have konqueror for internet browser16:50
coggzany thoughts on my wireless?16:50
Sbucatone_coggz: what's your problem ?16:50
coggzmy wireless dos not show up, it was working fine until i hibernated16:51
gluki'll go out for a short time, sorry16:51
Sbucatone_coggz: iwconfig in a terminal16:52
Sbucatone_!paste16:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:52
Sbucatone_coggz: use paste bin to paste output16:52
LynoureSbucatone_: yes, thanks for the correction16:52
Sbucatone_:)16:53
coggzSbucatone_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57579/16:54
coggzi do have eth0, that is what im using now, eth1 does not show up...16:54
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Sbucatone_coggz: ifconfigg eth1 down16:55
Sbucatone_coggz: ifconfig eth1 down16:55
Sbucatone_coggz: then ifconfig eth1 up16:55
Sbucatone_coggz: plz paste even iwlist eth1 scan16:56
coggzhad to be sudo'ed16:56
Sbucatone_coggz: yes16:57
z3r0-xhow are you?16:57
coggzSbucatone_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57581/16:57
coggzthey all showup16:57
z3r0-xme?16:58
z3r0-xare you hot?16:58
Sbucatone_coggz: ok your card works well16:58
z3r0-xi have big titts do you want to fuck me?16:58
coggz!wtf16:59
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:59
Sbucatone_coggz: and so you will do  :  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart16:59
Sbucatone_should do :)16:59
z3r0-xsorry chicking if worked..lol17:00
z3r0-xhow are you?17:00
tekstacyIs there a way to amplify the sound? The sound on this movie is too soft even at full17:00
flipstarvlc can..17:01
Sbucatone_tekstacy:if you can't find a nice solution...this for avi movie ... ffmpeg -i INPUT -vcodec copy -acodec mp3 -ab 128k -vol 500 -y OUTPUT17:02
Sbucatone_tekstacy: not sure..17:02
coggzSbucatone_: still not working17:02
tekstacyI like that, it fixes the movie not the machine17:03
jetsaredimtekstacy: kmix17:03
tekstacyI could try vlc, but I like mplayer17:03
jetsaredimopen the full mixer17:03
coggzSbucatone_: any other suggestions?17:03
tekstacyeverything is at full17:03
jetsaredimtekstacy: volume control on your speakers?17:04
Sbucatone_coggz: your card can detect wifi networks ...so i think you should  sudo ifconfig eth1 down ; sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart17:04
tekstacyyup. laptop.17:04
Arwentekstacy, volume knob....17:04
tekstacyI wonder if another mixer would let me do it....17:04
Arwenyou could use -af volnorm on MPlayer17:05
coggzSbucatone_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57582/17:05
jetsaredimtekstacy: there is alsamixer from the command-line17:05
Arwenbut I think fixing your sound system would be a better idea17:05
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tekstacyWell, it's more the file. Sound works ok, but sometimes I get a song or movie with the sound recorded to soft. I was looking for a temporary fix17:06
Sbucatone_coggz: mm sometime my card does that...but i have a usb card so i remove and after i re-plug in it and it works fine, ...you should check your dns too17:06
tekstacydidn't know about -af volnorm, thanks17:06
antokubuntu france17:07
mefisto__tekstacy: kaffeine has a audio normalisation filter, Player menu, effect plugins...17:07
jpatrick!fr | anto17:07
ubotuanto: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:07
coggzSbucatone_: how? still no luck after disabling and restarting17:08
tekstacymefisto, thanks17:08
gluki'm here17:08
Sbucatone_coggz: well kdesudo kate /etc/resolv.conf17:08
TheFarmerIs it possible to install Kubuntu on a external , so you can 'leave' your NTFS/Windows alone, without resizing, etc ?17:09
tekstacyTheFarmer, yes17:09
coggzSbucatone_: nameserver 192.168.0.117:09
Sbucatone_coggz: put this17:09
Sbucatone_nameserver 208.67.222.22217:09
Sbucatone_nameserver 208.67.220.22017:09
flipstarSbucatone_: you cant edit nameservers there ..17:09
tekstacyAssuming your box allows you to boot from it17:09
flipstarit will be overwritten17:10
Sbucatone_flipstar: i know17:10
TheFarmertekstacy: And it'll do whatever it needs to do (lilo? grub or whatever?) to the main drive to just tell it there is another OS on the external ?17:10
Sbucatone_flipstar: but in my card if i left that stuff it doesn't work ... i don't know why but when i change them after it works17:11
tekstacyTheFarmer, you would install it on a flash drive as the only os.17:11
flipstarhm..the right file for dns namerserver changes is /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ..17:12
coggzill fix it later. bye thanks for your help17:12
tekstacyBut, yes, it could do all that stuff to your windows drive17:12
ScorpKingnameservers can be set in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf17:12
flipstarexactly17:12
tekstacyCurious, what do you farm?17:12
Sbucatone_flipstar: well if i do that then..it works ...so why? i don't know17:13
Sbucatone_flipstar: i mean on resolv.conf17:13
[T]an1I am working on getting my sound working correctly. I open kmix and it shows nothing selectable in the current mixer window. when I select either oss or alsa in my mplayer preferences the movies give an error that no sound is working.17:13
[T]an1could use some assistance.17:13
flipstar!install > TheFarmer17:13
ScorpKingSbucatone_: do you use dialup? or something else?17:14
flipstarSbucatone_: doesnt mean it have to work for all :)17:14
[T]an1from lspci: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)17:14
Sbucatone_flipstar: well i have tried ..17:15
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Sbucatone_ScorpKing: i have wifi connection17:15
limbeauxi installed an app using apt-get.  when i run it, it says "you must be root to run"  how do i make it ask for sudo password?17:15
anto__Hey homies17:15
flipstar!intelhda > [T]an117:15
Sbucatone_ScorpKing: dsl 4M17:15
Admiral_Chicagolimbeaux: which app is it?17:15
ScorpKingSbucatone_: oh ok. i'm getting confused here. you have dns problems?17:16
limbeauxgproftpd17:16
limbeauxit will run from a terminal: sudo /usr/sbin/gproftpd17:16
Sbucatone_ScorpKing: no no i have not :) just i was asking why if i leave resolv.conf as default my wifi doesì't work instead if i replace open dns on resolv.conf it works17:17
ScorpKinglimbeaux: from the d at the end i think it should be a deamon17:17
limbeauxit is a gui for proftpd17:17
gluk_yahooo! it works! =)17:17
flipstarlimbeaux: then use kdesu instead of sudo :>17:17
ScorpKingSbucatone_: ah i see. the only way i can think of is to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf like flipstar said17:18
limbeauxis there a way to add that to the shortcut?17:18
flipstarright click->edit ¦->17:19
limbeauxyeah, i looked at that17:19
ScorpKingSbucatone_: add the dns servers in this line "#prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;" and uncomment it.17:21
ScorpKingi have to go. nite guys17:21
limbeauxthanks flipstar17:22
limbeauxthat worked17:22
Daisuke_Idoawesome...  unreal tournament is within reach once more :D17:24
BanTamhey Arwen17:24
Arwenyo17:24
BanTamapparently mergedfb has been phased out of gutsy17:25
Arwenoh, that would explain it17:25
BanTamthey now use RandR17:25
Arwenmusta been replaced with xrandr17:25
BanTamyup17:25
BanTamlol17:25
Arwenyeah, I don't know enough about that to help you :-(17:25
BanTamthats ok, i just wanted to let you know17:25
BanTamim reading up on it17:25
BanTamso we were shoveling sh*t against the tide yesterday17:26
BanTam:(17:26
Arwenwasted our time, eh? :-)17:26
BanTampretty much17:26
BanTamsorry about that17:26
Arwenmore importantly, TIME FOR SOME QUAKE17:26
BanTamhave fun17:26
Arwenactually, I wonder if it'll make my system crash :-P17:26
BanTamhaha17:27
tekstacyugh, back to work. bye17:32
BanTam!envy17:32
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »17:32
yao_ziyuanhow do i apply a proxy to Adept Manager?17:33
yao_ziyuani'm downloading some packages from a repository at wxwidgets.org and applying tor would make it faster17:33
antokubuntu france17:35
antofrance17:35
frank232!fr17:36
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:36
flipstaryao_ziyuan: i think you have to specify it in the sources.list or so17:36
yao_ziyuansynaptic can set proxy17:40
flipstarokay..17:41
flipstarwhatever17:41
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maniacHello everyone. I have some strange problems - a whole lot of probrams crashes with sigsegv on start or within libpthread.17:41
maniacalso superkaramba causes Xorg do die when idle.17:42
maniacit makes me think that something with threading is broken inside the kernel17:42
geniiyao_ziyuan: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/how-to-set-up-proxy-in-apt-gets-apt.conf-265793/17:42
geniiBah he left now17:42
maniacalso - nvidia proprietary driver cases everything to crash with sigsegv after some time. So I use nv now.17:43
maniacIs this only for me?17:43
maniacwhere should I report this bug? to linux kernel, or kde, or ubuntu?17:43
jaymacdonaldIt's something wrong with your side17:43
jaymacdonaldIt doesn't do that for anyone else, maniac.17:44
flipstarmaniac: gutsy or hardy ?17:44
maniacI have done memtest86 and cpuburn. so hardware is ok.17:44
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maniacflipstar: gusty 7.117:44
jaymacdonald*7.1017:44
maniacy17:44
flipstarsince when you have this ?17:45
jaymacdonaldThe release number corrsponds to the release date.17:45
maniacfrom very start.17:45
maniacit started with linuxdcpp crashing at start. and then, after some updates. it got worse17:45
maniacyesterday even kteatime crashed at start17:46
flipstarso with nv as driver you have no problems ?17:47
maniacmuch much less.17:47
Arwenf***17:47
Arwenfglrx is even slower than the open driver17:47
ArwenKubuntu is just plain unusable...17:47
maniacArwen: same here with nvidia17:48
flipstarhm i dont know what couses this .. but maybe you want to install the drivers from nvidias website ..17:48
maniactried with envy. It is even worse than restricted.17:48
Arwenack, my login screen is fubar, vsync is broken, opengl doesn't work, and xvideo looks crappy17:48
Arwenhow much more broken can it get?17:48
pat_Hi all, I just installed gutsy on my laptop. It works great except my fonts are horrible. I've changed them in 'appearance' but no matter what ones I use, they are not clear like my desktop kubuntu. Any suggestions?17:49
flipstarmaniac: maybe you want try these ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run17:49
maniacflipstar: It feels like dice roll...17:50
maniacflipstar: I have stdied manuals on ubuntu site, about this driver. And I still have nvidia-kernel-common installed.17:51
Arwenpat_, adjust the anti-aliasing option17:51
flipstarenvy changes a lot of settings17:51
mefisto__pat_: antialiasing. in system settings > appearance > fonts, then click the "configure" button17:51
maniacflipstar: when I tell aptitude to unistall it, it says that it will also remove kubuntu desktop and so on.17:51
pat_Arwen: where do I do that?17:51
flipstarit blacklist some modules and so on17:51
pat_Arwen: k, I'll give that a go, thx, brb17:52
flipstarkubuntu-desktop is just a metafile17:52
maniacflipstar: I have checked - tothing is blacklisted. But should be "nv nvidia"17:52
flipstari just wanted to say:i dont like envy17:52
maniacflipstar: I know that this is a metapackage. I mean aptitude offers me removing half of the system. Dependecies seem proken17:52
maniacflipstar: I dont like it now also.17:53
maniacbut, restricted moudles crash also.17:53
maniacit seems to be broken xorg and/or linux kernel itself.17:53
maniacparticularly "fork" syscall17:53
flipstaror configuration error ..17:53
maniacflipstar: I have not reconfigured it by hand. only the network.17:54
Arwenanyone know where I can get more support regarding fglrx?17:54
flipstarseems wired that you cant remove the nvidia-kernel-common..17:54
maniac100%17:54
flipstarArwen: google :)17:55
Arwenargh...............17:55
maniacI wanted to use ubuntu because it claims working "out of the box". I used plain "debian testing" for a year, and I never had any issues after I configured it.17:55
maniacArwen: there are manuals for nvidia on ubuntuforums and ubuntu. google there for ATI.17:56
Arwenmaniac, I don't need a manual, I need advice on repairs...17:56
Arwenthough then again, I'm not sure how much can be done to fix it...17:56
maniacArwen: repairs... hm. Never done anything similar.17:57
Arwenit doesn't work (tm) here17:57
maniacflipstar: http://pastebin.com/d51273c0b this is wahat aptitude says.17:59
hagaffservus18:00
hagafffrage was is des hier bin neu im kubuntu18:00
hagaffüber was wird hier geredet18:00
mefisto__Arwen: maybe try googling your vidcard + gutsy. It worked for getting my ati card working well18:00
genii!de | hagaff18:01
Arwenum... it's running... just not working18:01
ubotuhagaff: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:01
Arwenso yeah..18:01
flipstarmaniac: hm it claims restricted modules are broken oO18:01
maniacflipstar: they are :) at least they dont work.18:01
hagaffwie funktioniert des ubotu18:01
flipstarwhat happens if you try to remove them ?18:02
hagaffnur klicken oder18:02
flipstarhagaff: click on >< #kubuntu-de <<18:02
hagaffund dann los fragen18:02
hagaffah ok18:02
hagaffdanke18:03
maniacflipstar:  the same thing. It will remove metapackages.18:03
flipstarhm this is not good at all but you could reinstall them later ..18:03
flipstaror wait for things to get better ..18:03
maniacI will wait for 8.04. If it is same buggy. I will move back to debian or even gentoo18:05
maniacand fix bugs myself :(18:05
flipstarjust try to update in a few18:05
maniacI am running latest set of packages.18:05
flipstarcurrently :)18:06
maniacI can reinstall this resticted stuff.18:06
root__maricos y putas todos18:06
maniacthe latest of "ubuntu"18:06
maniacthey are quite old.18:06
maniacfor what reason have nut ups driver be so old with ubuntu?18:07
flipstarif i were you i would install nvidia drivers by myself ¦=]18:07
* maniac dont like ubuntu update filosophy18:07
maniacflipstar: I dont want to do it. hey! this is ubuntu or not?18:07
maniacflipstar: If i install them myself, what is the point of ubuntu? I'd better use debian/18:08
flipstarlinux is linux18:08
maniacyes. it is. just got more candy look18:09
maniacI have tried to use compiz with KDE. It was really flickering on startup.18:10
flipstaryou also have kubuntu&ubuntu-desktop installed that might trouble some18:10
maniacthigs got broken before I installed "ubuntu-desktop"18:10
maniacI need both. I use KDE and wife uses Gnome.18:11
flipstaryou could'nt use compiz ?18:12
aris?18:13
arishello18:13
flipstarhi18:13
arisi do have a question on kubuntu18:13
flipstargo on ..18:13
arishow i may run a deb file18:13
flipstaropen it with gdebi18:13
arisi have downloaded skype for Linux18:13
ariswhere is gdebi?18:14
flipstaryou might install gdebi before..18:14
flipstarsearch for it in adept18:14
frank232aris: can't you just click on it?18:14
arisyes i clikc on skype.deb18:14
arisbut cannot run18:14
flipstar!info gdebi18:15
ubotugdebi (source: gdebi): Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 220 kB18:15
ariscan you tell me where to look for gdebi?18:15
flipstarsearch for it in adept or type sudo apt-get install gdebi18:15
maniacflipstar: I could use compiz. But it's initialization did not look good. And I dont see any use of it. And it caused problems for 3d games18:15
frank232aris: is there an error message?18:16
frank232aris: use adept to install gdebi-kde if it's not installed18:16
maniacaris: you can also run "dpgk -i skype-file-name.deb" from console. But gdebi-kde should be accessible with right click.18:16
root__dvgfghuil18:17
flipstarmaniac: yes..if i dont start it at login it might flicker for a second..and framerate i little bit lower in 3d games, i agree18:17
aristhe error message is that it opens with another program  ARK18:17
flipstarand btw i find it very usefull18:17
psilocydecould someone please help with my adept  package manager problem?18:17
flipstararis: you need to install an program that can deal with that..like gdebi18:17
psilocydeadept lcoks up during the aply changes fase18:17
psilocyde*locks18:17
aristell me what is adept?18:18
frank232aris: right-Click -> Open with -> Gdebi Package installer is not there?18:18
flipstar!adept | aris18:18
ubotuaris: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto18:18
psilocydethe adept package manager18:18
maniacadept - gui front end to apt18:18
psilocydeyes sorry18:18
frank232aris: K->System->Adept18:18
geniiaris: Or Kbutton.. Add/Remove Programs18:18
psilocydeyes18:18
psilocydeboth18:19
maniacaris: try with right click. You should be able to select gdebi instead of ark.18:19
flipstargdebi is installed by default ?18:19
maniacwas for me18:19
arisi opened adept...now what?18:19
BluesKajwhat's the latest on browser ID using Konq on Gmail ?18:19
maniacBluesKaj:  mozilla 1.7.3 , but google reader still broken.18:20
psilocydei have an update notification saying that i have 13 updated packages available18:20
flipstararis: type gdebi18:20
flipstaror copy and paste it18:20
psilocydei click on the systray icon and i get an error18:20
flipstar!error18:21
ubotuPlease elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)18:21
maniacpsilocyde: whar error?18:21
maniac*what18:21
psilocyde- No command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command. -18:21
aristype gdebi at what location?18:21
flipstararis: at the search field from adept18:21
psilocydethen i run anyway and i get a crash18:21
psilocydei could pastbin18:22
flipstararis: you can install there any software you might need if it is availible18:22
ariscannot find gdebi!18:22
maniacpsilocyde: K -> System -> Adept Update Manager18:22
frank232aris: what version of kubuntu are you using?18:22
geniiaris: gdebi-kde18:22
flipstarhe probably uses the sources from installation..18:23
TonrenHow can I stop ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 from being overwritten every time I restart?18:23
arisi do have 3.5.218:23
psilocydemaniac: sorry i dont understand your instuction. Would you like me to past that in to a terminal?18:23
frank232aris: is that kubuntu 6.06 , 6.10?18:24
maniacpsilocyde: past "sudo adept_updater"18:24
psilocydety will do18:24
frank232aris: anyways you probably need to use a terminal and  run    sudo dpkg -i skypepackagename.deb18:25
maniacaris: do it from konsole. just with "dpkg -i skypepackage.deb"18:25
arisii try with terminal18:26
geniiTonren: Do you have "Restore Previous Session" checked in Kbutton..System Settings..Advanced... Session Management ?18:26
* maniac went out18:26
psilocydemaniac: i get "Another process is using the packaging system database"18:26
flipstarand..is it ?18:27
jinzougenHey, I like using aterm, but it doesn't render certain characters correctly, does anyone know how to fix it?18:27
psilocydeaww did i lose maniac?18:27
jinzougenUsually punctuation characters like `` and --18:27
Tonrengenii: No, I think I restart with a blank session.18:27
flipstarpsilocyde: if there is no other installer open try..18:27
flipstar!adeptfix18:27
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:27
Tonrengenii: Restarting from previous session is too weird... I always get all sorts of programs opening up.18:27
Tonrengenii: I'm really perplexed, because I can't figure out where this file keeps being overwritten from, or why.18:29
psilocydei get18:29
psilocydeKill process 5556 ? (y/N) y18:29
psilocydedpkg: status database area is locked by another process18:29
geniiTonren: Well, you could always just make gtkrc readonly then and change owner to root or so18:29
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arisi typed sudo -dpgk18:30
Tonrengenii: Ooh.  That's a good idea.18:30
flipstarpsilocyde: are you sure there is no process using it? try ctrl+esc and search for adept or synaptic ..18:30
psilocydek ty18:30
arisi right clicked on skype and install the package ..18:31
arisbut message is that missing package..18:31
frank232aris: did it work?\18:31
flipstar!skype | aris18:32
ubotuaris: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto18:32
arisok...i try to read instructions..18:33
arisnow how to run a bin file?18:33
psilocydeFlipstar: no instances of adept or synaptic.18:34
flipstardpkg maybe ?18:35
flipstarhm then try again ..18:35
psilocydetry what then?18:35
prince_jammys!aptfix18:35
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:35
psilocydeok now i get "Bus error (core dumped)"18:37
flipstar¦ /18:37
psilocyde:(18:38
prince_jammysmmm18:38
prince_jammyspsilocyde: you get that error after trying to use adept?18:38
psilocydeAfter "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" in terminal18:39
arishello?18:39
arisbin file?18:40
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trappistaris: usually sudo sh filename.bin18:40
trappistthat makes some not-necessarily-valid assumptions about the actual file type18:41
Waterstofferr18:41
Waterstoffthat makes a lot of really bad assumptions18:41
Waterstoffin fact, thats some pretty bad advice18:41
trappistnow that you mention it... you're right18:42
Waterstoff1) Don't use sudo unless you have good reason18:42
flipstarpsilocyde: libncursesw5 is installed..?18:42
Waterstoff2) Make the file executable and run the file, its a bin for a reason18:42
Waterstoff3) sh files _usually_ end with .sh, not with .bin18:42
psilocydeflipstar: how do i verify that?18:42
aristrappist..i did it with the command but cannot execute binary file18:43
flipstarpsilocyde: apt-cache show libncursesw518:43
flipstarguess you cant use apt-get now..?18:43
psilocydety18:43
trappistaris: it's probably not even an executable file, so you don't *run* it.  did it come with a .cue file?18:43
flipstarerr psilocyde sorry that was the wrong one..18:44
trappistaris: actually, let's start with this - do file <filename>18:44
aristrappist...it is RealPlayer10Gold.bin18:44
Waterstoffit is an executable file18:44
flipstarpsilocyde: apt-cache policy libncursesw518:44
trappistaris: are you maybe running a 64bit ubuntu?18:45
Waterstoffaris: chmod +x RealPlayer10Gold.bin; ./RealPlayer10Gold.bin18:45
aristrappist...-do no found18:45
psilocydeyes its there18:45
trappistaris: omit the "do" part.18:45
flipstar..guess you cant use apt-get now to reinstall..?18:45
psilocydei could try18:45
flipstartry apt-get --reinstall install libncursesw518:45
arisi omit do part18:46
arisi need other thing18:47
trappistprobably18:48
psilocydehttp://pastebin.com/m759aa0d218:48
arisfuck it...bin18:48
trappist!language18:49
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.18:49
psilocydepotty18:49
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arisubotu ...whereabouts?18:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about whereabouts? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:49
arisyr location?18:50
trappistaris: ubotu is a bot.18:50
Pici!bot18:50
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots18:50
arisoohps18:51
aristrappist..tnxs for your advice..18:51
psilocydeflipstar: did you follow the pastebin link?18:51
flipstaryep..18:51
psilocydeoh ok18:51
hagaffwie komm ich zu dem kubunte.de18:52
prince_jammys!de | hagaff18:52
ubotuhagaff: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:52
WaterstoffIt would appear that thats what his message was talking about18:52
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aris>18:57
arisdsdfs18:57
arisfdsf18:57
arishi18:58
arisfgfd18:58
Waterstoffdon't spam.18:58
arishello waterstoff18:58
Arwen!compiz18:59
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:59
PiddyCan someone help me with Kopete?18:59
ariswhat kopete?18:59
nosrednaekimwhats wrog with it?19:00
flipstararis: its an instant messaging program19:00
arisyes...flipstar..19:03
arisi extracted a gz file...19:04
arisnow how to install?19:04
dhqi have a nvidia gfx card in my laptop   8600m gt19:04
dhqi need drivers19:04
nosrednaekim!nvidia19:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:05
flipstararis: what is in this package ?19:07
arisFirefox19:07
nosrednaekimaris» use "sudo apt-get install firefox" to install firefox19:08
DragnslcrFirefox is in the repositories already19:08
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psilocydeshould i just reinstall?19:08
storbeckaris: cd folder -> ./configure -> make -> sudo make install19:08
psilocydeive been working on this problem for 2 daqys19:08
flipstarpsilocyde: aptitude ?19:09
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» for what?19:09
psilocydeno kubuntu19:09
flipstaroh..19:09
psilocydeive been working on this problem for to days19:09
storbeckpsilocyde: What's the problem?19:09
flipstaryou could try to fix it from livecd ..19:09
psilocydeapt is broken or something19:09
flipstarhere..>http://pastebin.com/m759aa0d219:09
arisstorbeck...i run it but message 'firefxo has no installation candidate19:09
psilocydeit wont comit any changes19:09
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» whats wrong with it?19:09
psilocydelocks19:09
psilocydemaybe flipstar could word it better than i19:10
storbeckaris, will you pastebin it?19:10
psilocydeit will download updates and software but it will not comit changes19:10
nosrednaekimaris» why are you installing rom a tarball? you can easily get it with apt.19:11
Arwenhuh, compiz works19:11
psilocydeit wont install anything19:11
arisi run it from Terminal...19:11
flipstarnosrednaekim: & storbeck: http://pastebin.com/m759aa0d2 & http://pastebin.com/d51273c0b19:12
psilocydeeverything you good people have told me to do to fix it dont resolve the problem19:12
storbeck!pastebin | aris19:12
ubotuaris: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:12
arisstorbeck....there is a file ŕun-mozilla.sh' inside the firefox directory19:12
storbecknosrednaekim: Does it do that with every package?19:13
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» does aptitude work?19:13
psilocydeno19:13
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» what is its error message?19:14
flipstarE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly19:14
psilocydeyes19:14
storbecknosrednaekim: Does dpkg work?19:14
storbeckerr psilocyde *19:15
psilocydeno19:15
storbeckO_O?19:15
psilocydeit downloads but will not install19:15
storbeckdpkg, not apt-get19:15
flipstarpsilocyde: maybe this will help..using the livecd..http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42252319:15
psilocydeok19:15
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» what does "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" say?19:15
storbeckpsilocyde: Re-install apt19:15
storbeckhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7765819:16
richardDoes anyone know how to connect using remote desktop connection to a windows machine?19:16
arisstorbeck..how to run the run mozilla.sh19:16
psilocydeok19:16
storbeckaris: sh mozilla.sh19:16
psilocydelooking at those pages ty19:16
storbecknp19:16
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flipstarpsilocyde: wait a sec..what does dpkg say ?19:17
psilocydecommand?19:17
arisstorbekc...i tried sh mozilla.sh...no file or such directory19:17
storbeckaris, Then the file isn't called mozilla.sh XD19:18
flipstarsee above..nosreds text19:18
psilocydeok sorry19:18
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» there should be some packages in /var/cache/apt/archives19:18
flipstararis: youre probably in the wrong directory but i REALLY would recommend you to install firefox via adept_manager19:19
arisstorbeck ...why cannot find any installation file inside the Firefox directory?19:19
storbeckaris, type this: sudo apt-get install firefox19:19
storbeckThat will install firefox for you. :]19:19
psilocyde"sudo dpkg -i file.deb" gives me "Bus error (core dumped)"19:20
arisstorbeck..i opened adept manager and typed firefox in 'search' ...it returned19:21
mefisto__I think aris might not have sources.list set up right19:21
arismozilla-firefox;ocale-en-gb  Status installed....is it done?19:21
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» point it to a valid deb in /var/cache/apt/archives like so "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/somevalid.deb"19:22
flipstararis: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources19:22
storbeckpsilocyde: That means you have broken packages somewhere.19:22
storbeckDuring an install, it was interrupted.19:22
storbeckAnd I think it's beyond simple repair.19:23
storbeckYour best bet would be to re-install.19:23
psilocydekubuntu?19:23
storbeckYes19:23
psilocydeah ok19:24
storbeckIf you can't run dpkg, aptitude, or apt-get19:24
psilocydesigh19:24
arishow to locate version of Kubuntu I use?19:24
flipstarpsilocyde: please first follow nosreds instructions ..19:24
storbeckYou're pretty foobar'd19:24
flipstarstorbeck: you still could use the live cd to reinstall that19:24
storbeckaris: lsb_release -a19:25
mefisto__what does the lsb stand for?19:25
storbeckflipstar: It's possible. I don't know if it would work though.19:25
nosrednaekimLinux standard base19:25
arisi have Ubuntu Release 6.06...tnxs19:26
flipstaryou could also use cat /etc/*release ..19:27
psilocydepsilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdmtheme_1.2.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb19:29
psilocydeBus error (core dumped)19:29
psilocydepsilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$19:29
beautifulsnowWondering if someone can help me with Wine, (yes I know there's a channel but its dormant :( )  My exe's don't run, and when I try to set up drives through config, I get "err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes   unable to define devicename of ...."  so when I come back and try again there are no drives... :-/19:29
trappistpsilocyde: sounds like a hardware issue19:29
psilocydereally19:29
flipstarno19:30
psilocydehow so19:30
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» there should be a core dump in the current directory... pastebin the contents19:30
flipstaroh, thats what core dumped mean :)19:30
psilocydesorry?19:31
flipstarthere should be a text file..called coredump or similar..19:31
flipstarupload the content to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19:31
trappistcore.* where * is the pid of the process that core dumped19:31
limbeauxIs there a service in kubuntu that will do desktop sharing.  eg vnc  that will run as a service?19:32
nosrednaekimtry krdc19:33
limbeauxone service i found krdb whatever it was required that a dialog box be clicked to accept the incoming connection19:33
flipstarehm krdc is the client.. limbeaux try krfb..19:33
psilocyde"/var/cache/apt/archives/" only has one text file. Its empty and labled "lock"19:34
flipstarpsilocyde: try search in your current dir19:34
psilocydehow?19:35
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» lol...ok, download a deb...19:35
prince_jammyspsilocyde: li19:35
prince_jammysls19:35
psilocydehaha newbies are funny with there ignorances! : D19:35
biosshello19:36
nosrednaekimhey bioss19:36
biossanyone really good on excel 200719:37
biossand acces19:37
flipstarpsilocyde: if you have no .deb on you pc you might try this one.. http://www.getdeb.net/download/2244/019:37
biossshout out to teekteen19:37
trappistbioss: wrong channel dude19:39
Picibioss: Try ##windows19:39
biossimporting data from excel to acces with if condition , the problem lies in getting the data to acces erasing the blank spaces or blank colums (using wine of course)19:39
psilocydei have many .debs.  When i do "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/Any one of those .deb files I get the error "Bus error (core dumped)"19:39
psilocydethere is no dump file in said directory19:40
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prince_jammysis there a dump file in the directory you are currently in?19:40
psilocydenot that i can see19:41
nosrednaekimpsilocyde» see if there is one in /var/cache/apt/archives19:41
flipstarls -al |grep dump19:41
prince_jammysls -al *dump19:41
ubuntu_salut !19:42
prince_jammyssalut19:42
jpatrick!fr | ubuntu_19:42
ubotuubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.19:42
psilocydepsilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ ls -al *dump19:42
psilocydels: *dump: No such file or directory19:42
jimmy51_officehello, does anyone know a rough release of the next major kubuntu version?19:42
coggzhi, need some help with a acer laptop with ati graphics19:43
PcMaXSysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643500+ at 2629 MHz (5264 bogomips), , RAM: 807/1005MB, 116 proc's, 16.21min up19:43
prince_jammyspsilocyde: then there aint no file that ends in dump19:43
coggzthe boot screen does not show and it takes ages to load19:43
psilocydeok19:43
psilocydeok then ill reinstall the OS19:44
psilocydethanks for the help folks19:45
prince_jammyspsilocyde: try google before you do that19:45
psilocydegoogle what?19:45
psilocydeyou dont think i have?19:45
prince_jammyspsilocyde: google  :  ubuntu install .deb "core dumped"19:45
flipstarthis here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422523 might help19:45
prince_jammyspsilocyde: i have no way of knowing what you have already done19:45
flipstartakes less then reinstall i guess19:45
psilocydei sorry i know19:45
psilocydeim frustrated19:46
mefisto__computer problems feed on frustration19:46
coggzany ideas on the acer?19:47
MasseRAfter the latest update (kubuntu) kaffeine stopped working with dvb19:47
MasseRnow it freezes every time I try to select digital tv19:48
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mefisto__MasseR: is this the update that removes kaffeine-xine ?19:49
MasseRYep19:49
coggzok, fine, need help with my wireless. It does not connect through knetwork manager or kwifi, but can detect networks when done in console19:49
psilocydeok thanks again folks will try the repair from live cd19:50
psilocydeill be back19:50
psilocydecount on it19:50
psilocydetake care19:50
flipstargood luck19:50
psilocydethanks19:50
MasseRmefisto__: I tried to install it back but it complained about breaking19:50
mefisto__MasseR: I suppose you would have to revert to 0.8.5 to have kaffeine-xine installed19:52
libbendoes wubi works properly? Just wanna check it out from windows and try some settings.19:54
coggzwhy does nobody answer me!19:54
nosrednaekimlibben» I think it does19:55
libbencan i choose on wich hd it stores the file to?19:55
libbenso it doesnt clams up my c: ?19:55
nosrednaekimlibben» never having used it...i'm not sure19:55
MasseRmefisto__: How do I do that19:56
flipstaris there an alternative for cron ?19:56
coggznosrednaekim: u any good with wireless19:56
nosrednaekimcoggz» when i'm not busy, yes ;-)19:56
coggznosrednaekim: ok then,19:57
libbenis wubi shipped in alpha 5 ? or do i need to download wubi as standalone app ?19:57
nosrednaekimlibben» I think its shipped with alpha 519:57
flipstar!info wubi hardy ... seems like not19:58
ubotuPackage wubi does not exist in hardy19:58
libbenwhy not ?19:58
libbenwich version does it exist in then ? =)19:59
DaSkreechImaginay Iguana19:59
flipstarthe packet is called <wubi> ?19:59
libbeni can see wubi here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha5/Kubuntu20:00
flipstar....wubi is an windows installer...20:01
DaSkreechbut thats for windows!! ^_^20:01
flipstarso it is on dvd .. not in the repos20:01
DaSkreechATE IS N20:01
flipstarbtw for what do you need such things oO20:02
Arwenhelp with compiz please. The taskbar shows every single window on every viewport. Can I get it to only show the current one?20:02
DaSkreechapt-get install frontpage  0_020:02
prince_jammysArwen: i had this problem when i had compiz installed and remember searching the web and having no luck20:05
prince_jammysArwen: eventually i stumbled into "it can't be done", but maybe that's wrong.  have you tried the taskbar settings?20:06
Arwentaskbar settings?20:06
Arwenin KDE?20:06
prince_jammysyeah20:06
Arwenoh cool, there's a patched taskbar that's compiz-aware20:07
Arwennever mind, yay!20:07
mefisto__MasseR: I think it's something like "apt-get install kaffeine=version.you.want.installed" but check man apt-get, I may be wrong20:08
frank232Arwen: by the time Kde 4.1 is released, kwin should have decent compositing20:08
Arwenscrew KDE420:08
flipstarerr kde4.0120:08
Arwen4.01 is already oit20:09
Arwenout* and it still sucks20:09
flipstar4.1 will be released in few months20:09
DaSkreechit's not old enough yet for that20:09
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Arwenmore importantly, gah the shadow effect in compiz is irritating. I liked the old gradient better.20:10
flipstarArwen: study ccsm ¦-)20:10
antokubuntu france20:10
antofr20:10
prince_jammysyeah it's probably in there in one the five hundred options20:10
prince_jammys!fr20:11
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.20:11
Arwenyeah, searching for drop shadows..20:11
EirikebIve tried googling this, but is there some kind of recomended partition system for a fileserver?20:11
Arwenyeah, use a functional one20:11
flipstarjfs maybe20:12
Arwenoh, turning off reflections did the trick20:12
ArwenEirikeb, use a reliable one like ext20:12
Arweninstead of a "fast" one like reiser20:12
flipstarreiser is better for small files..20:12
Arwencorrection: for LOTS of small files20:13
flipstarext3 is better for general..20:13
flipstarjfs for servers20:13
llutzxfs better for bigger files (video etc)20:13
flipstarnote:my opinion20:13
Arwen!compiz > kubuntu20:13
Waterstoffyes20:13
Arwen!compiz > Arwen20:13
Waterstoffnote that this is all opinion20:13
llutzso use ZFS, and solaris of course ;)20:13
Arwenhehe20:13
flipstaror wait for ext4 :)20:14
Waterstoffunless your a crazy ricer that sits in front of your computer with a stopwatch that has millisecond precision, you most likely will not notice a difference20:14
Waterstoffbetween any20:14
llutzWaterstoff: on a heavy loaded fileserver you'll see the differences very quick20:14
flipstaryep also on the root partition..(there many small files)20:15
Waterstoffmaybe on a true fileserver.. not much where else20:15
limbeauxi dont think krfb can be configured to run as a service and accept request.20:15
flipstarkrfb can autoaccept20:15
llutzWaterstoff: we talked about fileserver20:16
flipstarbut run as service..maybe copying to /etc/init.d ..but guess not20:16
limbeauxyeah, i will just have to figure out how to set up vnc20:17
flipstarlimbeaux: you could use other proggys than krfb..20:18
flipstarlike x11vnc20:18
limbeauxany with a gui?  i am intermidate at best with kde/linux20:18
flipstarno it doesnt have a gui20:18
flipstarno interaction required20:19
flipstarof course you should run it with x11vnc --passwd <password> else it run without a pass(!!)20:20
flipstarthen you could add this to autostart..thats it20:21
limbeauxhmm ok20:22
crashedThird time trying to setup my SAA7134 TV capture driver.20:25
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crashedI always forget what configuration I use. Anyone know how to setup a LifeView SAA7130/SAA7134 TV tuner?20:28
coggzanyone able to fix wireless20:28
coggzanyone?20:29
flipstar!wireless20:29
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:29
Jewsuscan someone look @ this site in KDE and tell me if it looks busted: http://www.decay.nu20:30
Jewsusi mean Konqueror, sorry20:30
flipstarloooks okay here..20:31
frank232Jewsus: looks ok20:31
Jewsusflipstar: frank23: thanks. I looked it in firefox 3 beta last night under gnome and it was crazy broken20:31
Jewsusthanks again20:31
BluesKajcrashed:  what app are you using with it , tvtime or xawtv or... ?20:31
crashedtvtime.20:31
frank232Jewsus: is the wrench at the bottom supposed to do anyhting?20:31
Jewsusyea, if clicked it's supposed to slide down20:32
crashedI go through two days of hell everytime I try setting up my tv tuner, and I eventually get it.20:32
crashedBut for some reason it's taking me longer than usuall this time.20:32
frank232Jewsus: it does nothing when i click the wrench at the bottom20:33
frank232Jewsus: in konqueror20:33
Jewsusfrank232: does it show any error messages? (i don't use konq so id ont know if it has a js console)20:33
frank232Jewsus: no it does nothing at all20:34
frank232Jewsus: i just checked with firefox to see what it was supposed to do20:34
crashedI know what tuner I use, but I don't know specifically what card. :/20:34
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Jewsusaw =(. thanks frank232. I'm at work now so i'll have to look into this later. thanks again20:35
trappistcrashed: same with me when I set up a tuner :/20:35
flipstaris there an alternative to cron ?20:37
frank232Heh.. I just had to plug in my tv tuner and it worked. I bought it knowing it was for linux20:38
DaSkreechflipstar: A really tight calendar schedule?20:38
trappistflipstar: there are other things to use instead of cron if you want different functionality, but cron is pretty much what you want to use for regularly scheduled tasks20:38
mefisto__Jewsus: I just looked at that page with firefox3 beta and it looks fine20:38
flipstarit just have to run like every 5 minutes..20:38
Jewsusmefisto__: then it must be something in gnome20:39
llutzflipstar: why not cron?20:39
Jewsusweird.... thanks though =]20:39
flipstarproblems at startup with hardy..20:39
Jewsusim surprised konqueror doesn't have a js console20:39
flipstardoesnt start..20:39
llutzflipstar: hardy... alpha... no comment20:39
* trappist backspaces20:39
flipstarim just asking for an alternative ..20:39
flipstarguess it is my bad anyway i uninstalled some packages :/20:40
Jewsuswell....you can do stuff manually :)20:40
flipstarerr every 5 minutes type a command in konsole .. ?20:40
flipstarno thanks :)20:40
crashed540406454005060605050020:41
Jewsusit -is- an alternative. didn't say anything about it being a good on e :p20:41
crashed05605050504040504505a0c0k45420:41
llutzflipstar: bash / while / sleep :)20:41
flipstarllutz: can you explain this a little deeper..?20:41
llutzflipstar: write a bash-script with a while-loop and use sleep to wait for xxx minutes (man bash tells you how)20:42
Jewsusllutz: but im sure he'll use different commands20:42
Jewsusmaybe he can put them in an array20:43
flipstarno just one simple command..20:43
trappistflipstar: while true; do somecommand;sleep $((60*5));done20:43
flipstarthanks all :)20:43
Jewsusthen you have to make it start automatically on startup20:44
crashedI just went through a bunch of card/tuner combinations and I can't get it :(20:44
DaSkreechJewsus: Source it in your bashrc file :)20:44
Jewsusshazam20:45
flipstaryes..problem is i have to run it as root..20:45
Jewsusnot shazam20:45
llutzput it into  /etc/rc.local20:45
flipstarhah great! :)20:46
crashedHm, it's not good if modprobe saa7134 -v doesn't output anything?20:46
llutzcrashed: means no error20:46
crashedI really don't know what to do anymore to setup this tvtuner.20:49
crashedCan anyone shed some light?20:49
coggzhaving trouble with wireless will anyone help?20:52
DaSkreech!tv20:52
ubotuhttp://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out20:52
DaSkreech^_^20:53
Arwencan anyone tell me what the point of the "draw fire on the screen" compiz plugin is?20:53
Arwen:-)20:53
flipstarpress shift+super and find out with mouse :P20:54
flipstarclear screen with shift+super+c20:54
ArwenI wasn't asking what it did20:54
ArwenI asked WHY20:54
crashedFeels like I've tried everything already.20:54
flipstarjust fun i guess20:55
flipstaralternative for drawing20:55
tekteenArwen: there is no point to compiz at all :-)20:55
dogma_!fr20:55
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.20:55
flipstarthe cube is very useful :)20:55
tekteenArwen: it is another feature20:55
Daisuke_Idohow would i see what processes are hogging a device?  /dev/dsp to be exact20:56
jhutchins_wkDaisuke_Ido: top, ps, fuser /dev/dsp20:56
flipstarArwen: maybe its for scaring people..20:57
Arwenthe cube is actually kind of pointless. much slower than just sliding desktops20:58
DaSkreechArwen: Helps people visualise the desktops20:58
flipstaryes but it has a nice shortcut you can use while working..20:58
DaSkreechArwen: I can do that in KDE with different wallpapers but it's much harder in Gnome20:58
Daisuke_Idoblech :\20:59
Daisuke_Idoopen /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy20:59
* Daisuke_Ido grumbles20:59
Arwenstop using OSS :-P20:59
Daisuke_IdoArwen: it's all UT supports20:59
Arwen8fps with cube. That can't be good.21:00
fragmedeDaisuke_Ido: try lsof /dev/dsp ?21:00
flipstarwhere do you see an fps on the desktop ?21:00
Daisuke_Idofragmede: nothing -_-21:00
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, turn off anything else playing sound?21:00
fragmedewhats the output of "ls -l /dev/dsp;groups"21:02
Daisuke_IdoArwen: everything else is shut down21:02
yuji__how can I start a program from the shell w/o it being linked to it? (eg from konsole > kate example.txt) and be able to use the shell still?21:02
Daisuke_Idoalexbe01 adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev21:03
jhutchins_wkyuji__: kate example.txt &21:03
yuji__thank you very much!21:03
jhutchins_wkyuji__: That says "run in background", which will work for gui apps.21:03
jhutchins_wkyuji__: See also screen, which will give you multiple sessions per console.21:03
fragmedehm, so it's not a permissions problem21:03
Konnerahhhh21:03
Konneri need help21:03
Konnerhelp =[21:04
DaSkreech!ask21:04
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)21:04
KonnerOk21:04
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yuji__jhutchkins_wk: "See also screen?" the little tab at the bottom left?21:06
KonnerKubuntu was working earlyer so i log onto windows for a bit since shockwave wont work on linux i try loging back onto linux it acts like its starting after the bar is filled with the blue it goes to text saying Konner@desktop login and it doesnt take me to anything21:06
Konnerlike it has a system error21:06
nosrednaekimKonner» are you botting recovery mode?21:07
nosrednaekim*booting21:07
KonnerNo.21:07
coggzplease help with wireless21:07
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KonnerI booted to the right one21:07
nosrednaekimKonner» if not, run the following command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"21:07
Konnerrecovery wont even boot21:07
nosrednaekimcoggz» ok.. whats the problem ?21:07
coggzmy wireless card detects networks, but cannot connect21:08
fragmedeDaisuke_Ido: try "aoss /path/to/program"?21:08
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fragmede(you might need the alsa-oss package)21:08
nosrednaekimcoggz» is the AP encrypted?21:09
coggzyes21:09
coggzit works normally, but i hibernated and now it doesn't21:10
Konnerso do i say sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?21:10
nosrednaekimKonner» upper21:10
nosrednaekim*yep21:10
Konnerok21:10
Konnerill brb if i havr a problem21:10
nosrednaekimcoggz» ah.... run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"21:11
jhutchins_wk!info screen21:12
coggzhmm, says my battery has been removed21:12
Daisuke_Idowell, it started with sound.21:12
ubotuscreen (source: screen): a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB21:12
Daisuke_Idothen segfaulted :(21:12
DaSkreech!info glob2 hardy21:13
jhutchins_wkyuji__: That "screen".21:13
ubotuglob2 (source: glob2): innovative state-of-the-art Real Time Strategy (RTS) game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.23-1 (hardy), package size 938 kB, installed size 2492 kB21:13
DaSkreech!info kubuntu-desktop intrepid21:13
ubotukubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.59 (gutsy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB21:13
coggzgonna reboot, brb21:14
konneryay it worked21:15
konneri can boot up into linux again21:15
crashedMan, I really can't get this tv tuner working, :(21:15
BanTamyou broke it already konner ?21:16
BanTam:)21:16
konneryes21:16
konnerx]21:16
konneri got it fixed again21:16
BanTambeen there done that21:16
BanTami just did a fresh install myself21:16
konnerall i did was log off linux and go back and it messed up21:17
konnerxD21:17
BanTamfrom all my tinkering around21:17
konnerI did hear Kubuntu isnt very stable. O_o but its the coolest looking one out of them all21:17
konnerthats why im using it21:17
nosrednaekimkonner» great :)21:17
DaSkreechafter a while re-installing will feel like an insult :)21:17
konnerI just dont want to go through setting up the internet again21:18
konner-.-'21:18
BanTami have now probs or complaints..except for adept package manager21:18
DaSkreechBanTam: What about it?21:18
nosrednaekimBanTam» just use synaptic like alot of use do ;)21:18
konnerxD im trying to get the windows version of mozilla firefox to work so i can use shockwave x]21:18
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BanTamwell when i do an upgrade with it, it gives an error halfway through the upgrade and stops21:19
BanTamEVERY time21:19
DaSkreechHmm21:19
DaSkreechGutsy?21:19
BanTamevery time ive done a fresh install and trid to use adept to upgrade i get the same error21:19
BanTamyes21:19
BanTamso now i just upgrade with apt21:19
konnerSo i can upgrade to synaptic for kubuntu?21:19
konnerxD21:20
nosrednaekimkonner» sure..."sudo apt-get install synaptic21:20
konneryay21:20
konnerk21:20
konnerone second21:20
konnerthat didnt work21:21
konner=[21:21
konnersays21:21
nordiskgod day21:21
konnerE: Package synaptic has no installation candidate21:21
nordiskwaths the best sql database21:21
nosrednaekimkonner» you on gutsy?21:21
Arwenhmm, compiz using free radeon drivers is highly, well, cpu-intensive21:21
konneryeah gusty21:21
MrJoeyIs there a way to reinstall the supplementary drivers that are removed at installation for the destination computer?21:22
nosrednaekimArwen» :)21:22
nosrednaekimkonner» run "sudo apt-get update"first then21:22
trappistnordisk: if there was a "best" there would probably only be one.  depends on what you need out of an rdbms.21:22
Arwenyay 4 software rendering21:22
Arwenit's actually pretty fast considering...21:22
nosrednaekimMrJoey» uhhh run that by us again... is abit more down-to-earth language?21:22
konnerOk i ran that21:22
MrJoeyI'm using a USB hard drive to run Kubuntu on my computer, but I can't get it to boot on another computer using the same bootstrap CD21:22
DaSkreechnordisk: Depends on the purpose21:22
MrJoeyIf you get rid of "using the same bootstrap CD" from my last sentence, then it is down-to-earth :)21:23
nosrednaekimMrJoey» ah!.... well that would depend if the device is refered to byt he same grub/disc ID I would think21:23
DaSkreechMrJoey: You have a initrd file I think21:23
DaSkreechOh that too21:23
MrJoeyMy initrd file is both on a CD and on the hard drive21:23
BanTamwhats better to use, performance wise? fglrx driver or ati?21:24
MrJoeyI can bootstrap by using the CD with root=/dev/sdc4 set as a kernel parameter21:24
konnerWhat do i do after sudo apt-get update21:24
trappistkonner: usually, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:24
coggzhi, still no wireless21:24
nosrednaekimMrJoey» but what if when you move to another computer, the USB disc becomes sdb4?21:24
MrJoey"fglrx driver or ati?" ==> Well, I don't think nonfunctionality is very good performance-wise :)  (I've had no luck with fglrx, but then again, I don't try much)21:24
MrJoeyVery good point!21:25
MrJoeyWhy didn't I think of that?21:25
crashednosrednaekim: would you remember what I did to configure this TV tuner properly?21:25
MrJoeyI have an sda and an sdb (2 hard drives)21:25
nosrednaekimcrashed» I don't recall you ever getting it working21:25
MrJoeythe computer I was booting to has only 121:25
ArwenBanTam, fglrx is faster, but they're both kind of slow21:25
crashedI got it working three different times.21:25
crashedAnd I can't get it working this time.21:25
MrJoeyI was thinking maybe the USB driver starts at sdc anyway21:25
BanTamok thanks21:25
MrJoeyBut I ought to try the sdb21:26
DaSkreechcrashed: Documentation is great :)21:26
crashedDocs haven't helped :P21:26
BanTambtw i was able to get randr working but when i rebooted it all went away21:26
BanTamim gong to stick with xinerama for now21:26
BanTamlol21:26
crashedI remember finding the right configuration and/or installation on some webpage, but I can't find that webpage anymore.21:26
konnerxD21:26
konnercant find my kubuntu cd21:26
konneri need to mark it21:26
BanTami got 2 just in case21:26
konnerfound it21:26
konnerx]21:26
MrJoeyAs for the fglrx, you can try it, but you will lose 3D rendering from the standard "ati" or "radeon" driver due to some problem.  You have to uninstall fglrx to get it back to normal, not just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:26
flipstarhttps://shipit.kubuntu.org/21:26
nosrednaekimMrJoey» better yet, I think you can tell it to set root by UUID21:27
BanTamwell thats another story, with xinerama i cant get 3d on BOTH monitors21:27
tr3eihi21:28
tr3eii have a problem with pppoeconf ... it doesn't work :|.... so i can't connect to the internet using ubuntu :|... any other options ... other than pppoeconf ?  >> http://www.imagebam.com/image/25d32a3066638/21:28
tr3eican someone help me with this... ?21:28
crashedI'm pretty sure I nailed my card and tuner down to 2/2.21:29
crashedBut still tvtime won't work.21:29
Daisuke_Idotr3ei: tried kppp?21:29
tr3eihm... no. This is for kubuntu only?21:30
DaSkreechcrashed: I meant when you get something working esp after it took you a while. Document it cause you will do it again at some time in the future21:30
crashedYeah, I should've written it down somewhere.21:30
Daisuke_Idoaren't you using kubuntu?21:30
MrJoeyMrJoey» better yet, I think you can tell it to set root by UUID ==> How would I find the UUID of that other hard drive?21:30
konnerOk just to be safe i went to ship it and ordered me 2 kubuntu CDs and 2 ubuntu CDs21:30
crashedBut if I know what card number and what tuner number, what could be causing the problems?21:31
tr3eior it works with ubuntu too ? Because i have the same problem with ubuntu. I've even tried ubuntu/kubuntu 8.04 and i've got the same result21:31
MrJoeyWhere is the actual UUID specified?21:31
MrJoeyIs it randomly generated and put somewhere, or is it part of the hard drive that never changes?21:31
Daisuke_Idonevermind, kppp won't help, that's ppp, not pppoe21:31
MrJoeysort of like a MAC address21:31
flipstarMrJoey: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -al21:31
jhutchins_wkDaisuke_Ido: pppoe is still ppp.21:31
flipstarMrJoey: it get generated only once in an os21:32
Ayabarawhat's the default image viewer in kubuntu?21:32
flipstarif you reinstall you'll get another one21:32
flipstargwenview21:32
nosrednaekim!UUID21:32
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)21:32
MrJoeyThen I won't be able to use that, though thanks for the information21:32
flipstarbut qiv is much faster :)21:32
konnerOk i need some more help with instaling synaptic21:32
trappistflipstar: when you reinstall what, exactly21:33
MrJoeyThe computers I'll be trying to boot have messed up Windows installations on them.  I'm reimaging them with Windows (they're not my computers, don't blame me :) )21:33
tr3eii've tried to run pppoeconf for eth0 or eth0:avahi only... and this way it asks me the user and the pass... but at the end... it still doesn't work :|21:33
tr3eihttp://www.imagebam.com/image/4dd6383066636/21:33
trappistflipstar: the uuid doesn't change21:33
konnerCan someone help me install Synaptic on Kubuntu =]21:34
flipstarMrJoey: as long as the os is the same the uuid does not change21:34
DaSkreechkonner: open adept and search for synaptic21:34
flipstartrappist: even not on reinstallling the os ?21:34
flipstarguess yes21:34
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nosrednaekimkonner» "sudo apt-get install synaptic"21:35
trappistflipstar: the os is pretty much a collection of packages - when you install, /etc/fstab gets written, with the uuids of your partitions, but those uuids don't change unless the drives/partitions change21:35
konneri tried apt-get21:35
konnerit says no packafe21:35
konnerpackage21:35
nosrednaekimkonner» after trying an aupt-get update?21:35
nosrednaekim*apt-get21:35
flipstartrappist: so the uuid is written into an file..21:36
flipstarwhen i reinstall all files are usally gone..21:36
konneri tried that21:36
konnerall it does is say21:36
MrJoeyHow would I go about doing this:  In the best case scenario, I want to make a respin of Kubuntu so as to add a menu entry to the boot.  This menu entry will go to the single user level and launch a custom script.  If the script fails, it will drop to the single user level command line.21:36
mefisto__you can regenerate a new uuid and/or set a uuid for a device. I did it a few months ago to replace hard disk and use the same uuid on the new one. but I can't remember the commands.21:36
* crashed sighs.21:36
konnerE: Package synaptic has no installation candidate21:36
nosrednaekimkonner» pastebin your "/etc/apt/sources.list"21:37
konnerk21:37
trappistflipstar: if you reinstall from scratch, you're creating new partitions... btw I'm still reading about this, and I'm not 100% sure I'm right...21:37
flipstarsynaptic is in main ..21:37
flipstarnot nessesary..21:37
crashedgonna trash linux if this doesn't work.21:37
konnerHow do i open sources.list on kubuntu21:37
konnergedit wont work21:37
nosrednaekimflipstar» which is what makes this odd21:37
nosrednaekimkonner» kate21:38
konner!pastebin21:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:38
flipstarcrashed: you tried google ? with exact card name and so ?21:38
konnerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57614/21:39
flipstartrappist: you can get two different uuids from two os's for the same drive ..21:39
crashedflipstar: i've tried google so much that no matter what I search, I'll get results that I've already read.21:39
flipstaroh21:40
flipstarbuy'd a new card ?21:40
crashedI had this one working not long ago.21:40
crashedI found the saviour of the configuration on a webpage, and I can't remember where that page was.21:40
flipstarbtw uuidgen can generate new uuid's21:40
DaSkreechkonner: You have adept open/21:40
konnernope adept isnt open21:41
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flipstarcrashed:  thats dammed :/21:41
nosrednaekimkonner» just like I thought.......rease all of the first level comment marks21:41
nosrednaekim*erase21:41
nosrednaekimkonner» wait.. don't do that... never mind21:41
konnerok XD21:41
konneri didnt know what you ment anyways21:42
nosrednaekimkonner» go into adept_manager->adept->manage repositories and check them all off21:42
flipstarcrashed: if you got a generell idea it might help to use the "site: blah.com" command on google..21:42
crashedflipstar: I haven't got the faintest clue.21:42
flipstarhow is your card called ?21:42
crashedI just remember googling a bunch of 'saa7130 kubuntu help' -- something like that and eventually finding it.21:43
flipstari'll try21:43
crashedAll I know is that it's a LifeView card.21:43
crashedSAA7130/SAA7134 chipset.21:43
crashedOne of the two.21:43
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: yeah it's a lot easier :)21:43
crashedLower-end PCI LifeView card.21:43
crashedI'm rather certain it's #2 card, and #2 tuner.21:43
DaSkreechkonner: alt+space -> type adept -> press enter :)21:43
konneri got adept done21:43
konnerx]21:43
konneri checked them off21:44
DaSkreechkonner: It should ask you to reload when you close the dialog21:44
konnerit did21:44
crashedNow that I think of it the solution was probably on ubuntuforums.org21:44
DaSkreechSearch for synaptic21:44
sam64Back in Breezy Badger I remember setting Konqueror to organize numbers in chronological order, rather than alphabetical. Now I can't remember how..21:45
ufuntuhello, could anyone help me pls to make the connection between bibus and openoffice? thanx in advance21:45
DaSkreechufuntu: bibus ?21:45
konnerOk what do i do now.21:45
nosrednaekimkonner» push the reload button21:46
DaSkreechkonner: right click and install then click apply21:46
flipstarcrashed: btw what does kdetv or tvtime poste for an error ?21:46
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: did that already :)21:46
konneri pressed reload21:46
konneri pressed reload 5 minutes ago21:46
konnerx]21:46
nosrednaekimDaSkreech» bleh,.. i'm REALLY slow today :)21:46
crashedflipstar: no errors.21:46
crashedBut there's no video.21:47
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: Getting old there :)21:47
nosrednaekimDaSkreech» at 17?I hope not :)21:47
DaSkreechOoooolllld21:47
flipstarcrashed: audio ?21:48
crashedNone21:48
flipstarhm does they show your card or something ?21:49
flipstaris it correct right21:49
flipstarerr detected21:49
crashedHow would I check>?21:49
konneri hate the internet browser kubuntu came with21:50
flipstaris it usb ? > lsusb21:50
crashedpci21:50
crashed05:06.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)21:50
DaSkreechkonner: ^_^ I learned to like it21:51
DaSkreechIt's not really a web browser it's just really good at faking it21:51
PiddyGuys, how do I show hidden files in konqueror?21:51
DaSkreechCtrl+H21:51
konnerit OPENs file insted of letting me save them21:51
konnerAh ok21:51
DaSkreechkonner: Right click save21:52
DaSkreechkon21:52
DaSkreechkonner: Ha ha that's one of the things i love about it21:52
DaSkreechkonner: or right click copy21:52
DaSkreechYou can copy music and flash and all sorts of stuff21:52
DaSkreechits really quite useful21:52
Eirikeb<-- idiot21:53
sam64how do you get numbers organizing properly in Konqueror? (2 before 10)21:53
crashedI'd have an easier time getting this card to work in windows.21:53
Eirikebjust changed the name of my "first" user to admin21:53
crashedAnd that's not easy either.21:54
PiddyGuys? Hidden files in konqueror? How:P21:54
tekteenCtrl+H21:54
sam64view>Show Hidden21:54
Eirikeband now get some message like"Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation"21:54
crashedtvtime-scanner says it's finding a few channels.21:54
crashedFound a channel at  73.75 MHz (73.50 - 73.75 MHz), adding to channel list.21:54
DaSkreechPiddy: argh Sorry View -> Show hidden I put in the Ctrl+H thing myself21:54
sam64there is no shortcut on my installation21:54
PiddyThanks :)21:54
Eirikebi guess Its because I forgot to create a new folder called admin or something21:54
nosrednaekimEirikeb» is your home directory owned by the right person? have the right permissions?21:54
PiddyNo problem DaSkreech:P21:54
flipstarcrashed: http://xawdecode.sourceforge.net/aideUS/htmlpage/TVCardall.htm you might now this already ..21:55
DaSkreechIt's been there so long I forget it's not standard21:55
* DaSkreech grumbles. Though it should be21:55
DaSkreechjust like F5 should be reload in Adept21:55
* DaSkreech grumbles21:55
sam64it should..21:55
EirikebI have no idea who owns the home directory21:55
PiddyOk, I'm trying to delete .compiz, but it won't work. Access denied it says.21:56
faileasanyone have any idea why i seem to have twice as many desktops showing up in the panel in kubunu fiesty than i actually have?21:56
crashedI quit :(21:57
nosrednaekimEirikeb» "ls -la" will tell you21:57
flipstarfaileas: using compiz ?21:57
faileasflipstar: yup21:57
faileasits cause of that?21:58
nosrednaekimfaileas» use kicker-compiz21:58
tekteenfaileas: yep21:58
[T]an1i am not successful in installing alsa-driver. I am following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto. when I run make is when it fails. here is the output of make http://pastebin.ca/92122421:58
PiddyAccess denied to /home/per-kristian/.local/share/Trash/files/.compiz.21:58
[T]an1i could sure use some assistance with this.21:58
PiddyHow do I fix that?21:58
[T]an1spent the entire day on this now21:59
* faileas supposes he needs to install and run it each time he switches to compiz?21:59
tekteenjust run it21:59
nosrednaekim[T]an1» for 1.... thats a rather old version of alsa22:00
faileaso022:00
nosrednaekim[T]an1» 2..... you might be able to get more help in #alsa22:00
Eirikebhm just another quick question, how I can change another users password from shell?22:00
[T]an1nosrednaekim: is it possible to install via apt-get or some other version?22:01
tekteenEirikeb: yes22:01
tekteenEirikeb: sudo passwd USER22:01
nosrednaekim[T]an1» I think you have to download it fom the alsa website22:01
[T]an1ok22:01
faileaswhat's the command for that?  kicker-compiz isn't found after i installed it22:01
flipstarPiddy: remove with sudo22:01
Eirikebah, thanks22:01
nosrednaekimfaileas» you have to add them to the panel.... they are panel applets... are you on hardy?22:02
Eirikebthen its just to get startx to work again22:02
faileasnosrednaekim: 7.1022:02
nosrednaekimfaileas» didn't realize they made it into the repositories.. cool22:02
Piddyflipstar: I can't find the right command.22:02
flipstarsudo rm /home/per-kristian/.local/share/Trash/files/.compiz22:03
mathew_hey anyone tell me ..... why my frostwire for kubuntu llike tries to load then disppears?22:03
faileasnosrednaekim: dosen't work tho ;p22:03
mathew_this also happens with some other programs22:03
mathew_plz2fix22:03
Eirikebxauth: timeout in locking athority file home/eirik.serverauth.877422:04
Eirikebbah22:04
nosrednaekimfaileas» the applet?22:04
[T]an1nosrednaekim: as I am looking at the alsa website, the version i installed is the most recent one I see. Do you know the current version?22:04
Piddyflipstar, actually I'm trying to delete my .compiz folder in my home folder.22:04
faileasnosrednaekim: yup, same issue as with the normal one22:04
nosrednaekimfaileas» oooh, maybe its the other package.... the pager....22:04
* nosrednaekim forgets what that one is called though22:04
* faileas is trying to get 4 desktops to get the cube22:04
flipstarPiddy: sudo rm <whateveryouwanttodeletethatisownedbyroot>22:05
flipstarPiddy: sudo rm -R <whateveryouwanttodeletethatisownedbyroot> for folders22:05
mathew_hey anyone tell me ..... why my frostwire for kubuntu llike tries to load then disppears?22:05
mathew_?22:05
Eirikebreboot=win22:05
nosrednaekim!repeat22:06
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience22:06
mathew_meh22:06
mathew_other day i repated i got answered on the repeat22:06
flipstarfaileas: in ccsm you can adjust the desktops22:06
flipstaryou can also have 16 or so ..22:07
faileasccsm?22:07
flipstar!ccsm22:07
ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion22:07
faileasahh22:07
Arwenccsm rules22:07
Arwenmuch better than the normal one22:07
faileasflipstar: got that stuff works fine in gnome22:07
flipstarthere is a normal one..?22:07
pedro_hi22:07
flipstarfaileas: i dont have gnome ..22:08
faileaserf22:08
faileasstill the same issue22:08
Arwendang, Xorg is using about 100MB of memory22:08
holai need help to configure my webcam22:08
sd32is it possible to install real player from the terminal?22:09
tekteenpedro_: hi22:09
Arwenguess that's what I get for using a shared memory video card...22:09
tekteensd32: you can get it from medibuntu (I think)22:09
flipstarfaileas: -->ccsm>general>desktop size>set to a value betwen 1 and 32 ..22:09
pedro_i can't run wine on kubuntu cause of these error "library files for "libpython1.5-so" is missing22:09
sd32tekteen: no i have medibuntu and no luck22:09
tekteensd32: then you can install it using apt-get22:09
tekteenok22:09
tekteenthen I do not know22:10
pedro_please help22:10
Arwensd32, there should be a package "realplayer" in the commercial respoitory22:10
Arwenrepository*22:10
sd32Arwen: nope22:10
nosrednaekimpedro_» is this on hardy?22:10
pedro_yes22:10
Arwensd32, then you have to do it manually22:10
pedro_it is22:10
mathew_which is best kubuntu/ubuntu/xbuntu?22:10
flipstar24 desktops rocks!!22:11
tekteensd32: have you installed the comm. repo?22:11
Arwen!find libpython2.5.so22:11
tekteenmathew_: dont ask22:11
ubotuFile libpython2.5.so found in python2.5-dev22:11
ArwenI assume you made a typo there...22:11
faileasflipstar: i'll settle for 4 and a cube ;p22:11
mathew_why ....22:11
sd32tekteen: yes22:11
tekteenmathew_: we will all say kubuntu22:11
Arwenpedro_, install that package listed above22:11
nosrednaekimmathew_» whatever you like best22:11
mathew_ah ok22:11
flipstarfaileas: whatever you like ..22:11
mathew_hows kde 4 coming along?22:12
faileashmm22:12
sd32I was trying to install it manually but the install is so difficult22:12
nosrednaekimmathew_» I like it22:12
faileassd32: there's a package its not complete but it works22:13
sd32faileas: where?22:13
epssihello. how can i remove arts without removing kubuntu-desktop?22:13
mathew_so is all the bugs removed?22:13
mathew_i got told not to try it22:13
flipstartry it doesnt hurt you ..22:13
tekteenmathew_: the bugs are dropping like flies22:14
tekteen:-)22:14
mathew_haha22:14
mathew_ironic22:14
nosrednaekimepssi» why?22:14
sd32im just amazed that real makes a linux version but its not in the repositories22:14
epssito reinstall arts for noatun22:15
mathew_ive been comparing windows to nix base stuff for personal and college use22:15
nosrednaekimepssi» and don't worry about removing kubuntu-desktop, its not really neccesary22:15
flipstarsd32: real still is closed software ..22:15
tekteen!info realplayer22:15
ubotuPackage realplayer does not exist in gutsy22:15
nosrednaekimsd32» skype has a linux version and its not in there.22:15
faileassd32: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php22:15
tekteen!info real22:15
ubotuPackage real does not exist in gutsy22:15
flipstarsd32: you might try helix-player instead22:15
nosrednaekim!kde422:15
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde422:15
sd32nosrednaekim: its in the medibuntu22:15
mathew_and thing i find anoying with kunbutu when you mess the grahics up you get black screen and you have to go into recovery etc ... ive only every once got dual montoir to work once but after restart it failed22:15
sd32helix is a joke22:16
epssinosrednaekim what is kubuntu-desktop then?22:16
nosrednaekimepssi» mostly usefull for installing and upgrading.22:16
nosrednaekimepssi» its a meta package.... it depends on other programs on install, but not on uninstall22:17
flipstarhm i uninstalled kubuntu-desktop long time ago..22:17
tekteenflipstar: I hope you do not try to upgrade to hardy :-)22:18
pedro_i can't run wine on kubuntu22:18
pedro_why22:18
crispy_chunkshello! I installed kubuntu from a netinstall booted off a pendrive, but unfortunately grub ended up on my pendrive - any suggestions?22:18
flipstarmuch unessesry stuff as default22:18
flipstartekteen: i already did22:18
tekteenpedro_: my esp says it is because something is messed ip22:18
tekteenflipstar: ok nm22:18
flipstar:P22:18
tekteenpedro_: give some information22:18
tekteenpedro_: what did it say when it failed?22:19
mrunagiis there a command line based torrent client?>22:19
tekteenrtorrent22:19
Daisuke_Idomrunagi: rtorrent22:19
nosrednaekimcrispy_chunks» yeah... you can tell grub to install to another HD... use "grub-install"22:19
Daisuke_Idojust an update on the sound issue...  i went and started the game, it segfaulted and took my mouse with it, so i just restarted x.  tried launching the game again and it worked perfectly...  go figure22:20
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido» WINE?22:20
crispy_chunksnosrednaekim: i'll look into it ,thanks :)22:20
Daisuke_Idonope22:20
Daisuke_IdoUT22:20
Daisuke_Idowhich so depserately needs an updated installer22:21
sd32!medibuntu22:21
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org22:21
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido» and so desperately needs to get 3 out the door22:22
pedro_an error occured during your last KDE upgrade an orphaend controle module22:22
pedro_and ou have a old third party modules lying around22:22
Daisuke_Idoi dunno about that, i'm not a big fan of newer games.  UT99 is classic though22:22
epssiwhoa...22:23
flipstarDaisuke_Ido: try nexuiz ..22:23
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Daisuke_Idoflipstar: nexuiz is okay22:23
ArwenNexuiz, lol22:23
konneruhh22:23
konnerxD22:23
Arwenthey need higher quality character models >_>22:23
konneri did something wrong22:24
Arwenand better looking maps22:24
Arwenand better animations >_>22:24
epssii started uninstalling arts packages and didnt notice that it would mean uninstalling all kinds of really important things22:24
Daisuke_Idobut UT is UT22:24
epssihow do i undo the damage?22:24
pedro_i can't put wine working22:24
flipstarArwen: theres a map pack on the website ..22:24
Arwenflipstar, higher quality as in um... graphics22:24
tekteenpedro_: give more information22:24
tekteenpedro_: my esp is never very good :-D22:24
flipstarArwen: there are a lot of options in setting..i can make it so high that my graphic card nearly collaps ..22:25
Daisuke_Idoiwould have to go with alien arena over nexuiz22:25
pedro_i gave you information22:25
Arwenflipstar, the effects are neat, but they don't really help without great textures22:25
tekteencan you repeat it?22:25
Daisuke_Idopedro_: "i can't put wine working" isn't information.22:25
pedro_o god22:26
konnernvm i did something right22:26
konnerxD22:26
pedro_an error occured during your last KDE upgrade an orphaend controle module22:26
tekteenok22:26
pedro_and ou have a old third party modules lying around22:26
flipstarArwen: antiAliasing and stuff might help out a little ..22:27
tekteenhave you changed kde in any way?22:27
pedro_please help cause the sema error iswith when i try to open the file manager22:27
Arwenflipstar, there is no anti-aliasing22:27
Arwenhehe22:27
flipstarsure ?22:27
pedro_if chage KDE??22:27
flipstari bet it is22:27
Arwenno, just anisotropic filterin22:27
flipstaroh..right22:27
tekteenpedro_: I do not know22:28
pedro_well i don't know i upgrade all when kubuntu sais22:28
tekteenok22:28
flipstarArwen: but at least it is shipped with *ubuntu :P22:28
epssii can't even start a konsole22:28
pedro_so can anyone help me22:28
flipstarepssi: maybe installing kubuntu-desktop..or that file you uninstalled..22:29
epssiflipstar how can i do that without a konsole or anything?22:30
flipstarepssi: you cant even run adept or synaptic and have no konsole open at the moment ?22:30
flipstarouch22:30
holai need help to configure my webcam22:30
epssinope22:30
flipstarthats very bad epssi22:31
epssiuh huh22:31
pedro_i can't put wine working please some help22:31
Daisuke_Ido!repeat | pedro_22:32
ubotupedro_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience22:32
flipstaronly possibity to fix that (that i know) ->boot livecd ->chrott->reinstall kde desktop22:32
flipstarepssi: ^ *chroot22:32
flipstarepssi: maybe you can switch to rescue mode first and see if apt-get still exist..if you can login ..22:35
mathew_is limeiwre or frostwire supported in kubuntu22:36
flipstarnot official22:36
sd32I am showing double entries  in  my installer how can i clean this up?22:36
flipstar!limewire | mathew_22:36
ubotumathew_: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.22:36
konnercan someone help me install  compiz-fusion?22:37
nosrednaekim!compiz22:37
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:37
nosrednaekimkonner» you got synaptic all installed?22:37
konnerk22:37
konneryeah22:37
konneri got it installed22:37
nosrednaekim:)22:37
konner^_^22:37
nosrednaekimkonner» is it better?22:37
konnerNow i want eyecandy22:38
konnerx]22:38
nosrednaekimhah.. what video card do you have?22:38
konnerNvidia Gefore 6600 GT AGP22:38
konnerI installed the drivers already22:38
mrunagiwhats agp?22:38
konner=]22:38
nosrednaekimkonner» should be easy then22:38
flipstarkonner: haha like i do :)22:38
mrunagi=)22:38
nosrednaekimmrunagi» graphics interface bus....22:38
BanTamAGP=Accelerated Graphics Port22:38
mrunagiwindows OWNS kubuntu22:38
mrunagiwindows has cool things like viruses and adware22:38
konnerO_o22:39
mrunagiwhich is why im reformatting.........yay!22:39
mrunagilol22:39
mrunagi3 days it took =)22:39
nosrednaekimkonner» wait... when did you install the graphics driver? before or after I had you run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?22:39
flipstarsome viruses run under wine ..22:39
konnerbefore22:39
mrunagithat sounds like fun!22:39
flipstarbut only a few22:39
mrunagisudo wine virus.exe22:39
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mrunagilol22:39
flipstar^^22:39
konnerI installed them before that.22:41
sam64flipstar: I've en looking for some to try actually22:41
sam64been*22:41
flipstari have a very great collection of very old viruses..like 600022:42
sam64pwn22:42
flipstarbut very,very _very_ old22:42
sam64I wanted to stock up for fun22:42
ubuntuhello22:42
nosrednaekimkonner» ok, how did you install them (that command disabled them)22:42
Daisuke_Idoflipstar: if you're ever threatened by an evil alien computer based on the 8088 processor, you can stop him!22:42
tekteenubuntu: hi22:42
ubuntuespañol?22:43
tekteen!es22:43
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.22:43
konnerI pressed crtl alt f1 disabled kdm installed them and restarted kdm22:43
ubuntuok22:43
nosrednaekimkonner» ah.. thats the wrong method.....22:44
konnerreally?22:44
konner:S22:44
konnerthats what i was told on the ubuntu forums22:44
nosrednaekimkonner» and I forget how to uninstall things installed by that methos22:44
nosrednaekimkonner» well, using the restricted-manager is far simpler22:44
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konnerwhats that22:45
nosrednaekima  tool for instlling drivers22:45
tekteenkonner: it is in system settings22:45
tekteenkonner: under the advanced tab22:45
pedrohi anyone know why i can't go to the file sytem on the kubuntu22:46
nosrednaekimkonner» install them from there. I think it will over-write anything yu installed before22:46
konneri found it22:46
konnerhow do i install them?22:46
tekteenclick the check box22:46
konnerit says the software source for the package nvidia-glf-new is not enabled22:47
tekteen!info nvidia-glf-new22:47
ubotuPackage nvidia-glf-new does not exist in gutsy22:47
konnerx]22:48
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konnerthats alot of helpful info22:48
twosouls82!info nvidia-glx-new22:48
ubotunvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (2.6.22.4-14.10)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB22:48
tekteenthanks22:49
tekteen:-S22:49
twosouls82;)22:49
pedrothere is anyproblem if i have installed kubuntu and had vista??22:49
flipstaryes..you probably wont like vista anymore22:49
pedrolol22:49
konnerROFL22:49
tekteenpedro: not that would affect the file manager22:50
pedroif i cna't go to other partitions of my pc i start not liking kubuntu22:50
nosrednaekimkonner» go into adept->manager repositories, enable "restricted)22:50
pedrodo have anyideia what i can do put that working22:50
pedro??22:50
nosrednaekimpedro» you can' access your windows drives?22:51
pedrono22:51
pedrois that22:51
pedroi want to22:51
pedrobut i can't22:51
konnerok22:51
flipstar!enter22:51
konneri enabled them22:51
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!22:51
konnerand the KDE crash handler comes up22:51
nosrednaekimpedro» go to system settings->advanced->disks and partitions22:51
twosouls82pedro: "hi anyone know why i can't go to the file sytem on the kubuntu" rephrase that please, and you might get answer22:51
nosrednaekimkonner» and adept crashed? heh22:52
twosouls82!ask22:52
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)22:52
twosouls82oops, wrong one22:52
pedrook i had done that but theres the same problem when i run windows aplication22:52
Daisuke_Ido*facepalm*22:52
nosrednaekimpedro» you can't run windows apps unless you have WINE.. and esp not from your windows partition22:52
pedroi have wine installed22:53
konnerno22:53
konnerxD22:53
konneradapt didnt crash22:53
pedrobut when i go to configure it it just don't run22:53
tekteenpedro: it still will not run them from the win partition22:53
konnerit enabled restricted22:53
konnernow22:53
konnerthe drivers wont enable22:53
nosrednaekimkonner» ok... well, click reload..22:53
konnerROFL22:54
konnerOOPS22:54
konnerI FORGOT TO CLICK OFF ADAPT MANAGER22:54
nosrednaekim:)22:54
konnernow it worked22:54
konnerlmaso im stupid today22:54
TuxOtakuanyone know how to fix a corrupt TCP/IP stack on kubuntu?22:55
Eirikeboops, think I've destroyed the su password22:55
Eirikeb: O22:55
pedrohow can i solve the problem so22:55
konnerxD22:55
konnerOk22:55
konnernow back to compiz22:55
nosrednaekimkonner» ok... you'll probably be asked restart....22:55
konnerWHY IS EVERYTHING HARDER TO DO ON KUBUNTU22:55
konnerxD22:55
konnerNo i didnt get asked22:55
nosrednaekimkonner» if not... you need to anyway22:55
TuxOtakuanyone? anyone? bueller??22:55
konnerOk brb22:56
twosouls82!omg22:56
ubotuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.22:56
nosrednaekimkonner» AND... remember that dpkg-reconfigure command22:56
nosrednaekimkonner» in case it punts you back to the command line22:56
pedroit sais when i go to the file manager tha an erroro occurred during your lat upgrade leaving an orpahaned control module22:57
flipstarim out22:57
tekteenlat = last :-)22:58
pedroyep22:58
pedroplease help22:58
pedroi never got the acsses to windows partitions22:58
nosrednaekim!pt22:59
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.22:59
pedrohow do i monut a partition23:01
pedro??23:01
Eirikeb<-- gz me, just fucked up my installation23:01
Konnerargh23:01
tekteen!ohmy23:01
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.23:01
Konnerit wont start again23:01
tekteenEirikeb: so what happened23:02
tekteenwhat did you mess up23:02
Konnerubuntu is a less pain23:02
Eirikebcant use adminstrator mode23:02
Eirikebhave no idea what my su password is23:02
tekteenEirikeb: your password23:02
tekteensudo23:02
tekteen!root23:02
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:02
Eirikebso im not supposed to be able to write su, then enter the password?23:03
tekteenno23:03
tekteenwrite sudo23:03
tekteenthen your password23:03
Eirikebokay, then the problem is that administrator mode doesnt work, it just sends me back to kcontrol23:03
tekteenok23:03
tekteenon that you just use you password23:04
Eirikebtried the solutions google gave me23:04
Eirikebmhm23:04
Eirikebdone several times23:04
holai need help to configure my webcam23:04
tekteenok23:04
tekteenis this the first user you installed?23:04
soussouhi guys23:04
Eirikebwell, the problem startet when I changed the name of the first user to admin (old name eirik)23:05
Eirikeband then created a new user called, gues whatt eirik23:05
soussouI am trying to have a simple qt4 application run on my box23:05
tekteenok23:05
Eirikebthen kubuntu asked what I wanted to do with the old /home/eirik so I just took the choice which deleted and recreated the folder23:05
tekteenEirikeb: can you post your /etc/goups23:06
soussouI am using codeblocks as my main IDE, I installed libqt4-dev from the repos, but when I try searching for the actual library files for  qt4, I find nothing, the include files are all there, but no library files23:06
soussouanyone knows where those libs are?23:06
soussounormally development library files are in /usr/lib/package-name23:07
tekteenEirikeb: do you know what the pastebin is?23:07
soussoubut when I tried searching for library files for qt4, i found nothing in /usr/lib/qt423:07
tekteenEirikeb: no wait23:07
Eirikebmore or less23:07
Eirikebgot no folder called groups23:07
Eirikeb: o23:07
soussouanybody has any ideas as to where those libs are?23:07
tekteenEirikeb: when you use admin23:07
Vermuxso whatz up?23:07
EirikebI cant even log onto him using GUI23:07
tekteenEirikeb: do you try to use admin mode as the user erik?23:08
Eirikebget some error23:08
Eirikeband the cause of the error (google says so) is that I didnt create a new folder for that user/deleted that user's folder23:08
tekteenEirikeb: admin mode only works as a user who is an admin (even if you know the password)23:08
Eirikebah, thats logical23:09
Konner....23:09
KonnerIma install Ubuntu im sick of Kubntu23:09
tekteenEirikeb: sudo is not made for this purpose23:09
Eirikebbut how do I change that, because right now I cant get my admin account (the old "1st" account) to work23:09
soussouanybody has any ideas where the qy4 libraries actually are? I tried building simple qt4 apps, but I can't find those damn libraries, include files are all there, but no object library files23:10
tekteenEirikeb: I will look it up23:10
tekteenEirikeb: why do you want a separate admin user?23:11
Eirikebmessage I get when I try to log on as eirik using KDE: "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation23:11
EirikebI don't want a seperate admin user, I want the admin user to be the administrator, but I cant do that since I can't log onto him23:11
tekteenEirikeb: open a konsole and type su admin23:12
tekteenEirikeb: we are going to make erik an admin23:12
Eirikebctrol-alt-f1?23:12
tekteenwhy not23:12
Eirikebokay, kubuntu login: _23:13
tekteenlogin as erick23:13
Eirikebokay23:13
tekteeneirik23:13
Eirikebyeah, thats done23:13
tekteennow type su admin23:13
tekteentype in the admin pass23:13
Eirikebokay, logged on as admin now23:14
* tekteen is looking up the command23:14
venikI have a really dumb question: how do I start matlab after I have installed it?  I can do it from the terminal by typing matlab in the /opt/matlab/bin folder, but I want to be able to click on an icon to start it23:15
tekteenEirikeb: usermod -a admin eirik23:15
Eirikebthat prints awhole lot of options23:15
tekteenok23:16
OrsHi there, I am new to kubuntu and I have some problem with the installation23:16
Eirikeb-a, --append        append the user to the supplemental groups23:16
tekteenEirikeb: usermod -aG admin eirik23:16
tekteensorry23:16
tekteenOrs: what is the problem23:17
Orsat one point I receive a message that busybox etc. and enter help for a list of build-in commands. However, there is no error message23:17
Eirikebusermod: unable to lock password file23:17
Vermuxso what do u think about Firestarter?23:17
tekteenok23:17
tekteenEirikeb: sudo...23:18
EirikebI had the same problem, fixed it by reinnstalling from an alternate disc, instead of live cd23:18
Eirikebheh23:18
Eirikebokay, no error message, so I guess it worked23:18
tekteenok23:18
tekteentype exit23:18
tekteenthen type groups23:19
Orstekteen: what shall I type?23:19
tekteenOrs: no idea23:19
cboafter upgrading to kde-3.5.9 i cannot check 'mount as user' external drives. now it mounts as root:root a can not write on it... any help is wellcome please23:19
tekteenOrs: do not know the error23:19
Eirikebors, look what I did to fix it, worked for me at least23:19
Eirikebgroups -> eirik_1 dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev sanner lpadmin23:20
Eirikebsanner=scanner23:20
tekteenEirikeb: logout23:20
tekteenlog back in23:20
tekteennow try groups23:20
Eirikebthe same plus lpadmin admin23:21
Eirikebthats good yes?23:21
tekteencool23:21
OrsEirikeb: what did you do?23:21
yao_ziyuanthere are packages removed but actually whose installation files are still cached on the hard disk. how do i clear them?23:21
tekteennow go log in to the gui23:21
tekteenand try it23:21
tekteenif you are logged in... log out then in23:21
EirikebOrs: I re-installed. I got the same error message while using a live CD, so I just figured i'd try to install with an alternate cd, and that worked23:22
tekteenyou will now be able to use your password as admin23:22
Eirikeblog in to the guy as in: startx?23:22
tekteenbye23:22
tekteenyes23:22
Eirikebokay, goodbye, thanks for the help. I owe you a beer : D23:22
tekteenI am underage :-)23:22
venikcan anyone tell me how to make the matlab starting script execut from a clickable icon?23:22
Eirikebnot that startx works : P23:22
OrsEirikeb: tx23:22
tekteengive me beer!23:23
tekteenbye23:23
EirikebServer is allready active for display 023:23
Eirikebbye23:23
Eirikeb<323:23
Vermuxwho recommend on Firestarter?23:23
venikwhat does katapult do?23:23
swattowhts the command to remove packages please?23:24
swattoapt-remove or or something?23:24
Eirikebgood luck Ors : D23:24
venikapt-get remove package23:24
swattocheers23:24
venikapt-get remove packagename23:24
prince_jammysvenik: katapult is a launcher. it also finds indexed files in your homedir i think.23:24
venikI clicked on it, saw the sling picture, and then it disappeared23:25
prince_jammysvenik : do alt space23:25
prince_jammysvenik: and then type something like "konq"23:25
prince_jammys venik: and you hit enter to run the app23:26
veniknice-- thanks23:26
venikbut it does not work with the matlab launching script23:26
prince_jammysvenik: it doesn't work with everything. i don't really use it, so i don't know what the exact criteria are23:27
venikhow do I kill it?23:27
venikI don't want it running in the background23:27
prince_jammysvenik: not sure23:28
prince_jammysvenik: probably somewhere in .kde or in /usr/share/autostart, or maybe thru system-settings23:28
venikok23:28
prince_jammyshow about that for a straight answer23:28
venikI still don't know how to start matlab from an icon... ;-(23:29
prince_jammysyou mean create a launcher for it?23:29
_Angelus_guys23:29
venikyes (I guess)23:29
psilocydehelp with setting up a good sources.list file?23:29
_Angelus_when the new version of kuubuntu is out, would i be able to upgrade without rebooting?23:29
prince_jammysvenik: is "matlab" the name of an executable? meaning can you run it from a terminal23:30
sam64how would I go about changing the way Konqueror sorts files?23:30
venikIf I am in the right folder, and type matlab, it runs23:30
venikbut if I press alt space and type it, it does nothing23:30
prince_jammyssam64: view->sort23:31
prince_jammysvenik: try making a launcher for it in the K menuy23:31
sam64prince_jammys: I want to change the way it does it though. It doesn't sort numbers properly.23:31
venikprince-- I don't see how to create a launcher from the K menu23:32
prince_jammyssam64 i think i know what you mean.  it sorts them as strings and not numerically, right?23:32
sam64prince_jammys: something like that23:32
sam64prince_jammys: I remember there being a setting, but I don't remember where :\23:33
prince_jammysvenik: first click on the menu, then right click on the menu and click on "edit menu"23:33
prince_jammysvenik: once you're in the menu editor, create new item and make the command for that item be "matlab"23:33
prince_jammyssam64: yeah i don't know either23:34
sam64:\23:34
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bizzehhey, my monitor and gfx card support upto 1680x1050, why can i only use 1400x1050 ?23:39
venikprince-- I did that, but it did not work23:40
venikit showed the matlab icon for a couple of seconds, then died23:40
roomyhi folks23:47
roomyive got a problem i just installed a packet from the internet how can i start it ?23:48
cboafter upgrading to kde-3.5.9 i cannot check 'mount as user' external drives. now it mounts as root:root a can not write on it... any help is wellcome please23:48
roomycan somebody help me please ?23:48
sergiu!codec23:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:50
psilocydeI have a fresh kubuntu install here, need help with verry low sound23:52
bizzehanyone know why kubuntu doesnt work properly on a widescreen23:52
venikpsil- have u tried the volume control?23:53
psilocydelol23:53
psilocydeyes23:53
psilocydety23:53
psilocydethats a fair question23:53
venikthe mixer, I mean, not the one on your sound system23:53
psilocydeyes23:53
psilocydeall jacked to 1023:53
psilocydeand its barely audible23:54
bizzehyou plugged into the speaker out, and not the line out?23:54
psilocydeyes23:54
psilocydei had this problem before23:54
psilocydeits a bug23:54
psilocydebut i dont remeber how to fix it23:54
venikthe sound in kubuntu is rather flaky, in my experience23:55
psilocydeya23:55
venikit often disappears entirely23:55
psilocydei see23:55
psilocydewell23:55
venikand I reboot to bring it back, as in the WINDOZ days23:55
psilocydeya, that dodnt help me.23:55
psilocydelow on every boot23:56
bizzehhmmn23:56
bizzehkubuntu installs half as much data than vista23:56
bizzehvista installs in half the time23:56
bizzehand everything works23:56
xxBasYxxhow to play dvd from VIDEO_TS dir on kub?23:56
bizzehubuntu doesnt recognise my gfx card, and when i got it to do, it wont pick up my full resolution23:56
bizzehand now the installer has crashed out on grub install23:57
psilocydevista costs many dollars and comes with a drm hypervisor23:57
psilocydeso what ever23:58
bizzehdoesnt cost alot when you buy OEM23:58
bizzehand doesnt have a drm hypervisor at all23:58
psilocydeoy23:58
bizzehthats FOSS hippie communistic bullshit23:58
psilocydeoh really?