[00:00] <jcgkffycs> nosrednaekim i put the output on pastebin http://pastebin.com/m7e707d9d
[00:00] <BluesKaj> the fix didn't work for my setup  I'm afrid
[00:00] <nosrednaekim> perfect... thanks
[00:00] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, lang-pack problems? I just updated :X
[00:01] <flipstar> NickPresta: only for those that have the canadian language pack installed
[00:01] <NickPresta> flipstar, like en-ca?
[00:01] <nosrednaekim> jcgkffycs» uhh you shouldbe getting borders.... no errors there
[00:01] <junaid> hi all
[00:02] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta» just -en and -base
[00:02] <junaid> how do i check which kubuntu i have on my machine
[00:02] <NickPresta> junaid, lsb_release -a
[00:02] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta» but it only seems to effect canucks...
[00:02] <jcgkffycs> I had borders, but i couldn't move any of the windows, then i restarted and the borders went away
[00:02] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, nosrednaekim , it seems to be much more than just lang-pack probs ... I tried the location as US on the last install but that din't make any diff
[00:03] <junaid> can any one refer me to a link where i find  instructions on how to install compiz in kubuntu
[00:03] <NickPresta> What are the problems or symptoms?
[00:03] <NickPresta> !compiz | junaid
[00:03] <ubotu> junaid: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:03] <BluesKaj> !compiz
[00:04] <junaid> thanks
[00:04] <BluesKaj> NickPresta:  updated X ...how?
[00:06] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, I just updated. :X = emoticon for "being silent"
[00:07] <matt_> Ok, so I have a NTFS formatted hdd with about 60gb of files on it.  Reformatting isn't exactly an option I willing to take, but Kubuntu will not let me change permissions for the drive.  I have it mounted no problem, but I can't delete any files or edit/write to it.  Any way I  can fix this?
[00:07] <BluesKaj> NickPresta:  login page and tty's aren't accessible on generic, recovery got a tty prompt but the launchpad fix didn't help me
[00:07] <jcgkffycs> nosrednaekim: since I know it did at one point work, is there a way to completely remove and reinstall it as if it were never installed?
[00:07] <ere4si> matt_, is ntfs-3g installed?
[00:07] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, okay. I won't logout or go to a tty until there is a fix :)
[00:07] <Jahromeo> argg -kiba dock jsut made my taskbar huge and black
[00:08] <punkn00dlez> Lemme check. I think it is...
[00:08] <Arwen> Jahromeo, docks suck anyway
[00:08] <Jahromeo> snore make it go away :P
[00:08] <Jahromeo> i cant see what irc windows etc i have open
[00:08] <Jahromeo> this huge black bar at the bottom
[00:08] <BluesKaj> NickPresta:  yeah, don't ..mkae sure you remove language-pack-en-base
[00:09] <alethes> I just did an update and now kde won't start and I get an error about being unable to contact kdeinit...is this a known issue?
[00:09] <BluesKaj> err make sure that you do remove it
[00:10] <BluesKaj> i think kubuntu developers otta be ashamed for sending down such a mess ...I think they owe a lotta ppl an apology for this mess
[00:10] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, no it is not currently installed.  I did try and install ti however, it installed no problem,but when it was installed, I still couldn't do anything.  BTW, I kicked Windows to the curb, so it's not even on my system at all...stupid thing crashed one too many times.
[00:12] <BluesKaj> punkn00dlez:  don't be too quick to rid of windows if you want this latest offering from kubuntu ...be careful what you wish for
[00:12] <Jahromeo> how do i customize my taskbar to not get in the way of kiba -dock?
[00:12] <alethes> BluesKaj is that language-pack-en-base package related to my issue?
[00:12] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, how is it mounted - fstab?
[00:12] <BluesKaj> alethes:  not sure ...it affects different systems in different ways
[00:13] <punkn00dlez> I assume so. I'm still pretty new at this ubuntu stuff.  But I did take a looksie at it once and it said it was
[00:13] <alethes> I did see an error about a .po file, so it's possible
[00:14] <alethes> BluesKaj didn't fix it :/
[00:14] <alethes> still can't start x now
[00:14] <kai> hello all
[00:14] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, yes, it seems to be mounted in fstab.  this is the last line: /dev/hdb1 /hdb1 ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,users 0 0
[00:15] <punkn00dlez> The owner is set for me, instead of root. Still nothing.  When I go into properties to allow read and write, it says it can't change it
[00:16] <kai> Im having a serious problem with me kDE
[00:16] <alethes> is anybody able to tell me what needs to happen so I can start X after the latest update?
[00:16] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, still think you need ntfs-3g from what I've read - I've never used ntfs or xp
[00:16] <BluesKaj> alethes:  i'm in the middle od another install, but this time I'm not taking any upgrades ... gonna hide that adept notifier where the sun don't shine :)
[00:16] <Daisuke_Ido> alethes: apparently there's a vendetta against canadians
[00:16] <alethes> hehe
[00:16] <ere4si> !ntfs-3g
[00:16] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[00:17] <alethes> Daisuke_Ido that's ok, I'm American :D
[00:17] <alethes> hehe
[00:17] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido: iset up the last install as location NYC and that din't make any diff
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> but what language pack?
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> en-CA?
[00:17] <BluesKaj> enus
[00:17] <alethes> honestly no idea
[00:17] <BluesKaj> repos enus
[00:17] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, did you see the ntfs-3g link?
[00:18] <alethes> I uninstalled the language-pack-en-base package and it didn't make a difference
[00:18] <punkn00dlez> Yes. I've installed it through Adept again.  Do I need to reboot?
[00:18] <BluesKaj> i don'r use the en-ca lang pack , never have afaik
[00:19] <beautifulsnow> Hey Kubuntu people: in Ubuntu, There's a program Add/Remove programs that makes it very easy to install/remove apps. Other than apt-get and synaptic, what is available for Kubunters?
[00:19] <ere4si> !ntfs-3g | punkn00dlez,
[00:19] <ubotu> punkn00dlez,: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[00:19] <alethes> beautifulsnow adept
[00:19] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, read the instructions :)
[00:19] <beautifulsnow> Thats apt-get, isnt it? :-/
[00:20] <alethes> not anymore than synaptic is :P
[00:20] <BluesKaj> it's afront end for apt
[00:20] <punkn00dlez> Alright, lemme check it out for sec.
[00:20] <kai> when f i let set idle to long it locks my cou and doens;t respond to mouse events im using kde 3.5.8 Does any one else have any similiar problems
[00:20] <alethes> man I hope heron is better than gutsy :/
[00:20] <BanTam> it didnt work
[00:21] <BanTam> i got stuck at a blank screen
[00:21] <BanTam> with the cursor flashing at the top
[00:21] <beautifulsnow> heron is more recent than gutsy? (sorry I looked online but coudnt find the info anywhere ^^;;; )
[00:21] <BluesKaj> and the probs continue
[00:21] <flipstar> jep it is
[00:21] <beautifulsnow> thanks flip ^^
[00:21] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, I've got ntfs-config installed.  Whenever I go to run the config tool it doesn't do anything
[00:22] <BluesKaj> bbiab ..see how this one goes
[00:22] <flipstar> beautifulsnow: it is not even released..still an alpha..
[00:23] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, I have no experience with that - sorry - isn't there somewhere in your fstab entry that you have to mention ntfs-3g?
[00:23] <beautifulsnow> flipstar finally found something online, its going to be released april .. wheee its almost there, can't wait ^_^
[00:23] <alethes> you're new around here, eh? :)
[00:23] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, I have no idea. Like I said, I don't exactly know what I'm doing.
[00:23] <alethes> kubuntu along with the other variations of ubuntu are released every  6 months, beautifulsnow
[00:24] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, that link would have told you...
[00:24] <Jahromeo> how do i remove my bottom panel - its in the way of my dock - right click - remove panel is greyed out, any ideas?
[00:24] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, it says nothing about fstab
[00:25] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, only for FAT32 partitions
[00:26] <Jahromeo>  how the hell do i disable my bottom panel
[00:26] <Jahromeo> its annoying me grrr
[00:26] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, I don't do windows so maybe someone with more experience with it can help - sorry
[00:26] <flipstar> Jahromeo: you mean kicker ? you can drag and drop it
[00:26] <punkn00dlez> It's all good, thank you for your help though.
[00:26] <ere4si> k
[00:27] <Jahromeo> flipstar i wish to remove "kicker"
[00:27] <Jahromeo> its in the way of my dock :(
[00:27] <flipstar> then just kill it
[00:27] <Jahromeo> how do i disable it?
[00:27] <gabriel_> tem algum br ae
[00:27] <gabriel_> ?
[00:28] <gabriel_> br
[00:28] <flipstar> ctrl+esc and search for it..or use konsole killall kicker
[00:28] <gabriel_> #canalbr
[00:28] <Jahromeo> flip i dont want to have to do that every boot
[00:28] <flipstar> !br > gabriel_
[00:28] <gabriel_> thanks
[00:28] <dogma_> !pidgin
[00:28] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[00:28] <gabriel_> #ubuntu-pt
[00:29] <Jahromeo> man someone must know how to remove kicker seriously
[00:30] <flipstar> you can write a script..
[00:30] <Jahromeo> there must be an option to hide or disable kicker
[00:30] <Jahromeo> seriously
[00:30] <alethes> chmod 644 /usr/bin/kicker :D
[00:30] <flipstar> sorry i dont know about that..
[00:30] <alethes> then it can't start
[00:31] <gabriel_> I am studying the vulnerability exploration, I know?
[00:31] <Jahromeo> something that wont break my system plz alethes :P
[00:31] <alethes> that won't break it
[00:31] <eddy> how can i activate the audio card in my acer aspire 5050 notebook
[00:31] <alethes> I believe that if you kill it then save your session, it won't come up though
[00:32] <Arwen> alethes, unless you're root :-)
[00:32] <Arwen> root can do anything
[00:32] <alethes> Arwen are you suggesting that root can execute a file that is set to 644?
[00:33] <gabriel_> i hate windows
[00:33] <Arwen> [19:33] <gabriel_> i hate windows <-- such an intelligent statement........
[00:33] <Arwen> alethes, or not... weird
[00:36] <TheGonk> I messed up my KDE Menu.  I got the menu back to normal, but my icon on my tray has changed and I can't figure out how to change it back.
[00:39] <prince_jammys> TheGonk: try restarting kicker
[00:40] <prince_jammys> TheGonk: killall kicker;kicker
[00:40] <TheGonk> Ahh...I figured it out.  I had added a "sub menu" directly to the bar, and couldn't see my K Menu.  I added my K Menu, then had 2 K Menus, deleted one and the sub menu I had added, and back to normal.
[00:40] <alethes> dcop kicker kicker restart
[00:40] <TheGonk> Learning experience
[00:40] <TheGonk> Thanks
[00:43] <dogma_> dont arrive to install everything..
[00:44] <Jahromeo> any basic tutorials that i can look at to pimp my system with kiba-dock
[00:45] <Jahromeo> how do i get flash for konqueror?
[00:46] <swatto> whats the calculator command for Kubuntu please?
[00:46] <flipstar> speedcrunch
[00:47] <Jahromeo> what flash plugin do i need for konqueror?
[00:47] <flipstar> !gnash
[00:47] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[00:47] <flipstar> !flash
[00:47] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:47] <Jahromeo> so its gnash needed and not flashplugin-nonfree or whatever its called?
[00:48] <flipstar> no thtese are different things
[00:48] <swatto> Is there a command to open speedcrunch please flipstar
[00:49] <flipstar> .. speedcrunch is the command to open SpeedCrunch ..
[00:49] <swatto> kk cheers
[00:50] <Jahromeo> what is the nonfree flash plugin name?
[00:51] <BanTam> Arwen you around?
[00:51] <Arwen> yes
[00:51] <BanTam> it didnt work
[00:51] <Arwen> Jahromeo, flashplugin-nonfree
[00:51] <BanTam> :(
[00:51] <Arwen> BanTam, what happen?
[00:51] <Jahromeo> hmm i have flashplugin-nonfree installed but i cant view youtube vids....?
[00:51] <BanTam> i got stuck at a blank screen
[00:51] <Jahromeo> do i need to select it somewhere in firefox/konqueror
[00:52] <Arwen> BanTam, paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:52] <dogma_> why kopete dont appear in add/remove programs? i have already download it
[00:52] <Arwen> or whatever the appropriate file is
[00:52] <Jahromeo> press alt+f2 - type kopete
[00:52] <Jahromeo> or check internet - kopete
[00:53] <BanTam> http://pastebin.com/m515ecb51
[00:54] <BanTam> not sure if thats going to help you  though
[00:54] <BanTam> i had to revert back to my old xorg.conf to reboot
[00:55] <dogma_> i became crazy
[00:55] <xxBasYxx> is there any profi flash studio on kubuntu?
[00:55] <BanTam> this is the xorg.conf file i used
[00:55] <BanTam> http://pastebin.com/m6629692a
[00:56] <Jahromeo> Download done.
[00:56] <Jahromeo> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[00:56] <Jahromeo> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[00:56] <MartinCleaver> lvm2 - unmounted filesystem
[00:56] <MartinCleaver> how do I tell how much space is being used without mounting it?
[00:56] <Jahromeo> did i do something wrong when i uninstalled i did sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree , then i did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:57] <xxBasYxx> Jahromeo: there is a bug in flash package
[00:57] <david_> hi there
[00:57] <dogma_> somebody speak french here?
[00:57] <flipstar> MartinCleaver: try df -h
[00:57] <MartinCleaver> sorry, ext3 filesystem unmounted
[00:57] <david_> I have a question about a fresh
[00:57] <Jahromeo> so it seems xxbasyxx - is it broken atm?
[00:57] <david_> installation
[00:57] <MartinCleaver> doesn't show, its unmounted
[00:57] <flipstar> !fr > dogma_
[00:58] <dogma_> thanks ;)
[00:58] <xxBasYxx> Jahromeo: i have same problem 2 moths ago.. can't find that forum now :(
[00:58] <xxBasYxx> you have to download fixed package
[00:59] <david_> when I go to   add/remove programs   I get no list of programs
[00:59] <flipstar> this thing is still not fixed ?
[01:00] <Jahromeo> downloading it off adobe website now
[01:00] <Jahromeo> tar.gz file
[01:00]  * MartinCleaver wonders whether dumpe2fs will tell him how much space is being used
[01:00] <flipstar> "This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix."
[01:00] <Jahromeo> thanks flip
[01:00] <david_> why dont I get a list of programs to download off of add/remove programs?
[01:01] <david_> I only have a list of what I already have
[01:01] <david_> I have fresh install of 7.10
[01:02] <xxBasYxx> im lookin for some flash editor for kubuntu... is there anythig?
[01:02] <Jahromeo> david_ run synaptic or adept manager
[01:02] <flipstar> david_: use adept and deselect not installed ..
[01:02] <david_> ok
[01:02] <ridell> hola
[01:02] <flipstar> !search flash editor | xxBasYxx
[01:02] <ubotu> Found: gconf-#ubuntu-effects, code, keys-#ubuntu-effects, flash64, brokenflash, splash, brokenkde4*, gedit, vim, flashissues
[01:03] <NickPresta> !es | ridell
[01:03] <ubotu> ridell: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:03] <ridell> hi everyone
[01:03] <ridell> i'm herwe
[01:03] <ridell> here
[01:03] <Randuni> hi all, I have the following error in kdm.log after upgrading the kde-libs kubuntu package: kdecore (KLocale): WARNING: Definition of PluralForm is none of NoPlural/TwoForms/French/OneTwoRest/Russian/Polish/Slovenian/Lithuanian/Czech/Slovak/Arabic/Balcan/Macedonian/Gaeilge/Maltese: Definition of PluralForm - to be set by the translator of kdelibs.po
[01:04] <ridell> somebody there?
[01:04] <Randuni> I see in the forums some people say sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en
[01:04] <Randuni> is that the "official" fix?
[01:05] <flipstar> no..
[01:05] <ridell> oui
[01:05] <Randuni> ?
[01:05] <flipstar> no this is not an official fix
[01:05] <Randuni> okay...is it the only fix at this time?
[01:06] <ridell> ça va?
[01:06] <Randuni> ridell?...tu parle le francais?
[01:06] <BanTam> Arwen ya still with me?
[01:06] <ridell> oui
[01:06] <Randuni> bon
[01:06] <flipstar> your error is different from the language pack error
[01:06] <Arwen> BanTam, ye
[01:06] <BanTam> just checkin :)
[01:07] <Randuni> I was recently notified that there are 4 updates for my kubuntu
[01:07] <Arwen> BanTam, oh, sorry, didn't notice your files >_>
[01:07] <Arwen> one second
[01:07] <BanTam> np
[01:07] <ridell> hey everyone i'm free if i wanna talk free is not ur bussiness ok
[01:07] <BanTam> the instructions i got say i need this...
[01:07] <BanTam> A recent version of the free Xorg, WITHOUT any binary graphics driver installed.
[01:07] <BanTam> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773710
[01:07] <Arwen> BanTam, your MetaModes option is still broken
[01:08] <Arwen> #
[01:08] <Arwen> #
[01:08] <Arwen>         Option "MetaModes" "1024x768" "1024x768"
[01:08] <icanhasadmin> Anyone know a quick way of checking if I have Visual C++ installed or not?
[01:08] <Arwen> should be:
[01:08] <ridell> and i wanna talk french ok
[01:08] <Arwen> Option "MetaModes" "1024x768-1024x768"
[01:08] <BanTam> ok
[01:08] <NickPresta> !fr | ridell
[01:08] <ubotu> ridell: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:08] <NickPresta> icanhasadmin, are you talking about visual c++ (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/visualc/default.aspx)?
[01:08] <Jahromeo> just install flash from the adobe site that worked
[01:08] <ridell> but is not fair
[01:08] <flipstar> icanhasadmin: apt-cache policy <packet>
[01:09] <ridell> i do u said that
[01:09] <icanhasadmin> NickPresta: Yes, nevermind I just answered my own question. Thank you :)
[01:09] <ridell> ?
[01:09] <Arwen> BanTam, also, I see fglrx loading in your Xorg.0.log for some reason
[01:09] <Arwen> did you reboot?
[01:09] <Arwen> and uninstall it?
[01:09] <BanTam> yes
[01:09] <ridell> ok
[01:09] <ridell> i get it
[01:09] <BanTam> i had to put back my xorg.conf file to reboot
[01:09] <ridell> any female from canada?
[01:10] <flipstar> !info female
[01:10] <ubotu> Package female does not exist in gutsy
[01:10] <Arwen> BanTam, oh, I see
[01:10] <BanTam> HOW should i uninstall the ati proprietary drivers?
[01:11] <Arwen> apt-get remove
[01:11] <BanTam> i dunno the nam of the drivers though
[01:11] <BanTam> name
[01:11] <david_> sweet it worked
[01:11] <david_> thanks
[01:11] <Arwen> apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:11] <Arwen> but if it's envy, I dunno
[01:11] <BanTam> well all envy dos is install the ati drivers
[01:12] <BanTam> then it uses a VESA driver
[01:12] <NickPresta> !envy | BanTam if you haven't seen this
[01:12] <ubotu> BanTam if you haven't seen this: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:12] <icanhasadmin> Question. If I'm downloading core microsoft fonts (like arial), do I have to install them into wine or are there 'linux friendly' versions available?
[01:12] <Arwen> NickPresta, telling him that now doesn't really accomplish much now though
[01:12] <ridell> where can i looking for some drivers for printer hp deskjet 1020?
[01:12] <Arwen> icanhasadmin, wine will use them automagically
[01:12] <Arwen> install them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[01:12] <NickPresta> icanhasadmin, msttcorefonts is the package you want.
[01:13] <icanhasadmin> Thank you both, can i apt-get install msttcorefonts?
[01:13] <Arwen> and if you have a Windows install, you can do "ln -s <windows mount point>/WINDOWS/Fonts /usr/share/fonts/truetype/winfonts"
[01:13] <NickPresta> Arwen, I know. I am informing him that envy isn't supported and he should be thankful that you're helping him :)
[01:13] <Arwen> icanhasadmin, yes
[01:13] <BanTam> im extremly thankful, i never said or implied i wasnt
[01:13] <Arwen> I link the fonts from my Windows install, gets me all of em with no waste of disk space :-)
[01:13] <Randuni> 2008-02-26 19:07:18 status installed language-pack-en 1:7.10+20080205
[01:13] <Randuni> 2008-02-26 19:07:18 status installed language-pack-kde-en 1:7.10+20080205
[01:13] <Randuni> 2008-02-26 19:07:38 status installed language-pack-en-base 1:7.10+20080205
[01:13] <Randuni> 2008-02-26 19:07:38 status installed language-pack-kde-en-base 1:7.10+20080205
[01:14] <Tonren> How can I stop ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 from being rewritten every time I restart?
[01:14] <icanhasadmin> lol these days there's a lot of disk space to go around, I respect the efficiency tho ;)
[01:14] <Arwen> BanTam, back to the point, try with the corrected MetaModes line
[01:14] <BanTam> ok
[01:14] <flipstar> a lot? yes enough? no
[01:15] <BanTam> i fixed that, so i use the restricted drivers now?
[01:15] <Arwen> GAH, Hardy's firefox3 is NOT SHOWING IMAGES
[01:15] <Arwen> BanTam, noo. you don't want any restricted drivers at all if you're trying this.
[01:15] <beautifulsnow> Theres images of hardy already ? O.o
[01:15] <BanTam> ok
[01:15] <Arwen> beautifulsnow, 5 of em in fact
[01:15] <NickPresta> beautifulsnow, hardy is in Alpha 5 now, IIRC
[01:16] <beautifulsnow> I went on google images and put "hardy".... *crosses eyes in pain*
[01:17] <BanTam> let me try this brb
[01:18] <david_> After a year (or a tad over) of using linux solely, I went back to windows just to play around and I could not stop with the sinister snicker...the whole time saying to myself " Oh yeah, I keep forgetting.. I cant do that with here".
[01:19] <flipstar> Arwen: is you sure that firefox wont show images in hardy ?
[01:19] <david_> meant to say... "I cant do that here"
[01:19] <Arwen> flipstar, yeah. I think the bug is in xulrunner, but...
[01:19] <flipstar> then look at this :) http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2669/ff3tg5.png
[01:20] <Arwen> !worksforme
[01:20] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[01:20] <Arwen> seems to be video card specific for some god-unknown reason
[01:20] <BanTam> well
[01:20] <Arwen> there's even an open bug about it
[01:20] <BanTam> i got one monitor
[01:20] <BanTam> but the resolution is like 640x480
[01:20] <Arwen> hmm, xorg.0.log pelase
[01:20] <Arwen> please*
[01:21] <BanTam> as it boted i had 2 monitors until i entered my pwrd then the 2nd monitor went out and the resolution chaned
[01:21] <Arwen> it worked until you logged in?
[01:21] <Arwen> were they spanned or mirrored?
[01:22] <Tonren> Anyone...?  How can I stop ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 from being rewritten every time I restart?
[01:22] <Arwen> Tonren, chmod 000 ~/.kde/share/config/gtkc-2.0 will probably work
[01:22] <Arwen> now, whether or not that's what you want...
[01:23] <Tonren> Arwen: Yeah yeah... the car won't have trouble starting if you blow it up.  It just won't exist.  ;-P
[01:23] <BanTam> SOB it wont let me paste, when i paste nothing comes out
[01:23] <BanTam> DAMMIT
[01:24] <Tonren> Arwen: I'm mystified, here.  All I want to do is remove ONE line in the file to make my GTK apps stop screwing up
[01:24] <Tonren> Arwen: But every time I restart, it's back, and there's no indication of what's populating it
[01:24] <Arwen> "While you're dying I'll be still alive / And when you're dead I will be still alive" w00t
[01:24] <Tonren> And there doesn't seem to be any documentation of it anywhere.  I Googled it too.
[01:24] <Arwen> BanTam, o.O
[01:24] <Arwen> thank the lord the dualhead nonsense is fixed in Hardy :-P
[01:25] <flipstar> Tonren: did you taked a look at the file ?
[01:25] <flipstar> especially the first lines
[01:25] <BanTam> so how do i paste this now?
[01:25] <Arwen> BanTam, slowly? :-P
[01:25] <Tonren> flipstar: Of course!  I couldn't very well edit it without taking a look.
[01:25] <BanTam> this has been a total headache
[01:25] <Arwen> BanTam, scroll through it and look for errors and stuff
[01:25] <crazy_bus> I need java to access blackboard but I'm not sure whether I should use the official plugins or icedtea.  Which would people recommend?
[01:25] <flipstar> hah it just says what to do ..
[01:26] <Tonren> flipstar: It says what to do if you *don't* want KDE to override my GTK settings.
[01:26] <Tonren> flipstar: I do--I just don't want that damn line to show up.
[01:26] <BanTam> WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[01:27] <Arwen> that would be a problem... moving on
[01:27] <BanTam> i see a bunch of stuff
[01:27] <BanTam> too much to paste in here
[01:27] <flipstar> Tonren: so why dont you edit it and say kde to not override...?
[01:28] <Tonren> flipstar: Because I don't want to spend 3 hours tweaking it by hand to match my KDE theme.
[01:28] <Arwen> BanTam, eh. X-related issues are nightmares to solve over IRC :-\
[01:28] <Tonren> Arwen: howcome?
[01:28] <Arwen> Tonren, massive logs...
[01:28] <Tonren> Ahh, true
[01:29] <Tonren> I usually open irssi in a screen window, and I have a command line script for sending files to pastebins
[01:29] <Arwen> BanTam, if you let me log in to your box, I might be able to help more, but alas :-P
[01:29] <BanTam> sure tell me how
[01:29] <BanTam> i got nothing to lose
[01:29] <BanTam> lol
[01:29] <Arwen> lolol
[01:30] <Arwen> !ssh | BanTam
[01:30] <ubotu> BanTam: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:30] <Arwen> but um... careful with strangers
[01:31] <BanTam> i hear ya
[01:31] <BanTam> like i said i got nothing on here right now im worried about losing so it dont matter
[01:32] <BanTam> so what am i doing here? i gotta install ssh?
[01:32] <flipstar> why dont you just open a query..
[01:32] <Arwen> BanTam, basically, apt-get install openssh-server, make sure your router isn't in the way, and give me your login password (if you dare)
[01:33] <BanTam> ill pm it to you
[01:33] <david_> my screen blacks out then comes back when I an in adept
[01:33] <BanTam> arwen check your msg
[01:33] <alethes> is there a solution for the kdeinit issue that has come up since the latest update?
[01:34] <pcmax> Sysinfo for 'PCMAX': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643500+ at 2629 MHz (5264 bogomips), , RAM: 668/1011MB, 110 proc's, 22.35min up
[01:34] <david_> do I need my video driver installed?
[01:34] <Arwen> BanTam, didn't get one. Are you a registered user on FreeNode?
[01:34] <BanTam> umm dont think so
[01:34] <Arwen> alternatively, you can join #anon32 (my private channel)
[01:35] <BanTam> im in there
[01:35] <david_> it doesnt tell me that 3d exceleration is on or not
[01:35] <alethes> hmmm ok, can somebody suggest a distro that isn't broken? :)
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> alethes,  i have very few issues with ubuntu.  :)
[01:36] <alethes> I usually don't have any issues either
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> ive not noticed any kdeinit issues either.
[01:36] <alethes> but now I can't start x because of a broken update
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> all i been doing lately is playing wesnoth. :)
[01:38] <MuNzE> Sysinfo for 'mi-desktop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4800 bogomips), HD: 295/471GB, RAM: 2906/3546MB, 145 proc's, 4.53h up
[01:38] <Roge> my panel has vanished in kde4, anyone know how i mite get it back ?
[01:39] <flipstar> alethes: if the update broke you, just uninstall it ..
[01:40] <dogma_> !fr
[01:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:41] <prince_jammys> Roge try alt f2 and type "kicker"
[01:41] <david_> does linux run ok on a quad core system? I should have checked before ordering one?
[01:41] <Roge> prince_jammys, that loads the kde 3 panel
[01:41] <prince_jammys> Roge: ah
[01:43] <tcm_> Roge: run 'plasma'
[01:43] <david_> does anyone know?
[01:43] <Roge> ill try that tcm_
[01:43] <Roge> ty
[01:43] <root___> que es esto
[01:43] <prince_jammys> !es | root___
[01:43] <ubotu> root___: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:43] <Roge> tcm_,  seems that command does not exsist
[01:43] <david_> does linux run ok on a quad core system? I guess I should have checked before ordering one.
[01:44] <prince_jammys> !kde4
[01:44] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:44] <Roge> no one alive in the kde4 channel
[01:44] <Dr_willis_> david_,  should run fine
[01:44] <root___> qu es esto
[01:45] <prince_jammys> root___: es el canal de ayuda para ubuntu
[01:45] <flipstar> david_: 8 ~ 1,024 cpus are no problem
[01:45] <prince_jammys> root___: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:45] <root___> y para que sirve esto
[01:45]  * Dr_willis_ installs dos on a octacore system to play doom real fast!
[01:45] <Dr_willis_> :)
[01:45] <noodles12> hey. you know how the icon bounces on our mouse. What is that called so i can change it?
[01:45] <Dr_willis_> noodles12,  launch feedback - i belive
[01:46] <Jahromeo> holy crud this box feels slow with kiba-dock - yet its a 2.4ghz quad with 4gb ram
[01:46] <prince_jammys> root___: para problemas relacionados con ubuntu. pero este canal es ayuda en ingles nada mas
[01:46] <root___> y como hago para cambiarlo a español
[01:46] <david_> good thanks
[01:46] <prince_jammys> root___: teclea /join #ubuntu-es
[01:46] <icanhasadmin> anyone know where in windows to find comctl32.dll? /system32?
[01:47] <flipstar> !windows | icanhasadmin
[01:47] <ubotu> icanhasadmin: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[01:47] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: /mnt/windows/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/dllcache/comctl32.dll
[01:47] <noodles12> Dr_willis_: thanks
[01:48] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: with your mount point obviously :)
[01:48] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: oh and like you said also in: /mnt/windows/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/comctl32.dll
[01:49] <icanhasadmin> ...well thank you. I don't think the forced !command was necesary :P
[01:49] <icanhasadmin> :D :D you guys are the best as always
[01:50] <icanhasadmin> I have an even dumber question... 2 partitions on my windows drive, i'm guessing they are different mnt points? and how do i tell them apart?
[01:51] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: how do you mean? there's two windows installations?
[01:51] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: each should have its own mount point
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  try the 'mount' command - see whats mounted where.. and look at the contents of the mountpoints
[01:51] <icanhasadmin> tyty
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> many windows machines have a 'recovery' partitin these days.
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> You really dont need it mounted under linux. :)
[01:51] <Arwen> ^^ - which is an evil waste of disk space
[01:51] <Arwen> delete it
[01:51] <david_> how do I get my NVidia video card driver installed
[01:51] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: yes, "mount" by itself should show you what's mounted. sudo not necessary
[01:52] <icanhasadmin> it says /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1.. why are there 2 points?
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> Arwen,  seen that break a few windows machines for my friends. :)
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  thats ONE mount point.
[01:52] <Arwen> o.O
[01:52] <icanhasadmin> lol@arwins discspace saving ocd
[01:52] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: there aren't.   /media/sda1 is the mount point  /dev/blah is the device
[01:52] <icanhasadmin> thank you
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> !mount
[01:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:52] <icanhasadmin> sorry i get confused. Once you tell me tho i'm ok for life ;)
[01:53] <icanhasadmin> is it normal for kubuntu to mount windows in /media?
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> learning how linux mounts filesystes,.... Is one of the top 10 things to learn.. on yoyur path to Linux-Leetness. :)
[01:53] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: yes, that's standard in ubuntu
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  every thing normally gets mounted  in /media/SOMTHING
[01:53] <icanhasadmin> Dr_willis_: don't plan on being leet, but thank you :)
[01:53] <BluesKaj> there's no text in my xorg.config file ...what gives?
[01:53] <draik> Hey all
[01:54] <draik> I got a minor issue. Don't know if this is something I did wrong or possibly a bug...
[01:54] <draik> No command arguments supplied!
[01:54] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: /media is how ubuntu does it.  i put mine on /mnt some time ago.  you can mount wherever you want
[01:54] <david_> my screen blacks out then comes back when I am in adept
[01:54] <draik> Usage : kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command>
[01:54] <draik> KdeSudo will now exit...
[01:54] <Dr_willis_> draik,  and what was the command you gave?
[01:54] <flipstar> draik: as it says you have to supply an command
[01:55] <prince_jammys> draik: paste what you typed
[01:55] <draik> Dr_willis_: flipstar: I haven't. This is a popup message when I login to my account.
[01:55] <draik> prince_jammys: ^^^
[01:55] <prince_jammys> gotcha
[01:55] <Dr_willis_> sounds like you got a session item saved incorrectly
[01:55] <BluesKaj> how does one generate a  xorg.config file ?
[01:55] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: xorg.conf?
[01:56] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: the file is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:56] <draik> Dr_willis_: How do you suppose I find it and kill it?
[01:56] <BluesKaj> no kidding ...there' sno text in it
[01:56] <Ertain> My computer keeps freezing up, but I don't know why.
[01:56] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: back it up if you're going to edit it
[01:56] <Ertain> It could be due to some part of Firefox, but I'm not sure.
[01:56] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: it's blank?
[01:56] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:56] <Alethes> BluesKaj: I was able to fix that kdeinit prob
[01:56] <flipstar> BluesKaj: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:56] <Alethes> I don't know if you have the same prob
[01:57] <draik> Dr_willis_: Is there something I can run/do to find what should no longer be running?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> Alethes:  cool how ?
[01:57] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: try the above, and the check the backups in the same dir
[01:57] <icanhasadmin> "cp /source-location/file /copy-location/file" is the correct syntax right? And is it relative location or exact?
[01:57] <Alethes> BluesKaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695073
[01:57] <fortruth> hello, I want to know if i need reinstall non-free driver of nvidia when i change my linux-image!.
[01:57] <Alethes> last message on that page
[01:57] <BluesKaj> flipstar:  don't wann achange anysettings now
[01:57] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: yes, that should work.   cp -r for directories
[01:57] <Alethes> BluesKaj: sudo dpkg -r language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-en-base
[01:57] <Alethes> or
[01:57] <icanhasadmin> prince_jammys: you the man
[01:57] <Alethes> sudo qt-language-selector --mode select
[01:57] <Alethes> select us-english
[01:58] <Alethes> pretty lame bug
[01:58] <BluesKaj> Alethes:  language-pack-kde-en as well eh ?
[01:58] <flipstar> BluesKaj: theres no content but X is running? are you on hardy ?
[01:58] <Alethes> BluesKaj: yeah, that's all that needs to be removed
[01:58] <BluesKaj> no, gutsy
[01:58] <Alethes> gotta do the base package at the same time though
[01:58] <Alethes> 'cause they both depend on each other
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> !startup
[01:59] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[01:59] <BluesKaj> Alethes:I removed  language-pack-en-base
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> draik,  see the !startup info :)
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> Theres also a kde startup manager tool
[01:59] <Alethes> BluesKaj: yeah, that does nothing
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> !find startup
[01:59] <ubotu> Found: libstartup-notification0, libstartup-notification0-dev, startup-tasks, startupmanager
[02:00] <Alethes> it's the kde language packs
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> !info startupmanager
[02:00] <ubotu> startupmanager (source: startupmanager): Grub and Splash screen configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 53 kB, installed size 652 kB
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> hmm thats not it.
[02:00] <BluesKaj> really Alethes ok , thx I'll dump the kde lang base as well
[02:00] <Alethes> BluesKaj: check that message on the forum I posted
[02:01] <icanhasadmin> ok, supernub question. I have a directory with a space in it. How do I denote that while typing it in command line?
[02:01] <flipstar> ""
[02:02] <Alethes> icanhasadmin: you can quote it like flipstar said or you can just tab complete it
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,   quote the whole name/path or escape the space.
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> It can get TRICKY at times. :)
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> kk
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> cd 'Program Files'
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> i'll figure out on my own what tab complete means ;)
[02:02] <Alethes> if you start typing the name and hit tab, it'll complete it
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> gotcha
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> like usernames in irc
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> lol
[02:02] <Alethes> yep
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,   you may want to track down a bash beginners guide or 2 :) and do some readng
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> !tab
[02:02] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:02] <flipstar> or just use 'blah \ blah'
[02:03] <icanhasadmin> I find it amusing how all the 'tricks' all this software has I used to use on windows, actually seems to be built based on common linux commands
[02:03] <Alethes> BluesKaj: man, that bug just about had me running for a new distro
[02:03] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  you mean windows/MS stealing ideas from other people? Egads! :)
[02:04] <icanhasadmin> lol
[02:04] <sub[t]rnl> hi
[02:05] <icanhasadmin> It's funny. When I was very young (12?) I coded rooms/weapons/armors/etc for a MUD in something called "LPC" which i can only presume is a bastardized version of C. I remember almost none of it but things seem to pop in my head everytime i read some piece of source
[02:05] <flipstar> hi
[02:05] <BluesKaj> Alethes:  I'm not out of the woods yet ..still tempted to lookelsewhere if this locale prob keeps persisting
[02:05] <Strangelet> I accidentally removed everything on my KDE panel, now, I am trying to move things back into place, but applets such as the 'system tray' and 'taskbar' cannot seem to be moved. How do I move them?
[02:05] <draik_> Dr_willis_: There is nothing in Autostart
[02:06] <flipstar> draik_: probably a restore from last session
[02:07] <flipstar> Strangelet: everything in kicker can be moved
[02:07] <Strangelet> flipstar: Understood, though I do not know how some things can be moved, i.e. taskbar
[02:07] <Alethes> BluesKaj: still not fixed?
[02:08] <tcm_> Strangelet: I've had same problem few weeks ago. I solved it by adding (how it should be on the panel) right to lef
[02:08] <Dr_willis_> draik,  theres a kde tool that helps ya manage the sessions also i think.
[02:09] <Strangelet> tcm_: ehh, I think the developers should know about this. :p
[02:09] <icanhasadmin> So I'm still up in there air between gnone and kde.. anyone want to win me over on KDE? I just need some convincing
[02:09] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: first unlock the panel, then you have to mouse over the stuff until you see a little arrow.  when you see it, grab it and move it,  it's pretty annoyinh
[02:09] <BluesKaj> i removed them , Alethes... now comes the test ..gonna reconfigure my nonexistent xorg file , cuz i gotta have DRI and 3D for google earth ..BBL
[02:10] <Strangelet> prince_jammys: Umm, where should I mouse over for the taskbar?
[02:10] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  use them both..  and see.
[02:11] <draik> flipstar: How do I find it?
[02:11] <Dr_willis_> I set up the wife with Gnome, I tend to use kde.
[02:11] <Alethes> icanhasadmin: I used gnome for years and I use kde now
[02:11] <draik> Dr_willis_: Do you know the app?
[02:11] <flipstar> no this aint good to use both..
[02:11] <Dr_willis_> draik,  use the package manager and search - i forget its name
[02:11] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: on the left edge
[02:11] <icanhasadmin> I am using them both :) very different. I just.. I don't know. Undecided :P
[02:11] <Strangelet> prince_jammys: Thanks! I will start mousing around now. :P
[02:11] <Dr_willis_> very different? Hmm.. never noticed.
[02:11] <Dr_willis_> Heh
[02:11] <flipstar> draik: if this happend the first time you can ignore it..if you dont use kdesu when exiting the current session it wont occure in the next one
[02:12] <Alethes> icanhasadmin: I can give you one good reason -- the developers are not as stubborn :D
[02:12] <Alethes> the attitude of the devs for kde is totally different than that of the gnome devs from my experience
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> one reason.. KDE4
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:12] <icanhasadmin> Alethes: see that's what i'm talking about! lol
[02:12] <Alethes> or at least 4.1 haha
[02:13] <Strangelet> prince_jammys: can't find it. :(
[02:13] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: it can be hard.  an alternative is to see if you can delete it and add it back
[02:13] <Alethes> gnome has a nice clean look, but the backend is pretty shoddy
[02:13] <Alethes> and kde can be made to look like gnome
[02:13] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: the panel is unlocked, right?
[02:13] <Strangelet> prince_jammys, yassir
[02:14] <icanhasadmin> Any hope for me getting compiz/beryl or something pretty like that to run on an ati xpress laptop card? i don't want a walk through, just a yes or no :)
[02:14] <Alethes> icanhasadmin: kde can do everything gnome can do and more.  gnome is quite a bit behind as far as features go.
[02:14] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: i just tried it.. the little vertical bar and the arrow popped up on the far left of the taskbar
[02:15] <draik> Dr_willis_: I don't use it for shutting down. How about I use it this time?
[02:16] <draik> Dr_willis_: kdesudo -u root halt                will that work?
[02:16] <icanhasadmin> Alethes: Yeah, I liked the whole "find a new desktop background" thing. Right in the menu, easy to find, seemed updated and had cool options
[02:16] <Strangelet> prince_jammys: No avail. :(
[02:16] <Dr_willis_> draik,  theres no need to use kdesu for non-gui apps
[02:16] <Dr_willis_> sudo halt
[02:17] <Dr_willis_> Or cheat like i do . and make it where the user can use the halt/shutdown command. no sudo needed
[02:17] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: weird. it's working over here.
[02:17] <flipstar> you dont need to cheat for that..just use kmenu :=)
[02:18] <Dr_willis_> i got  the suid bit set on halt. :)
[02:19] <Dr_willis_> at one time i had a user named 'halt' that had no password. and the default shell was halt.
[02:19] <Dr_willis_>  so 'halt' at  LOGIN: would halt the box. :)
[02:19] <flipstar> haha
[02:20] <Alethes> haha
[02:20] <Alethes> man, you know that'd be a weird hack if you could just automatically turn every failed login into a ln to a command
[02:20] <Alethes> so everything just worked haha
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> Alethes,  Hmm.. Proberly doable. :)
[02:21] <Alethes> yeah, but it's a horrible idea :D
[02:21] <icanhasadmin> that was all really funny.
[02:22] <Dr_willis_> Login Failed: please enter your Credit card # to continue
[02:22] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:22] <Alethes> haha
[02:22] <icanhasadmin> or an 11 digit prime number..
[02:22] <Alethes> :o
[02:22] <Alethes> you may be a windows user, but you're definitely a geek, icanhasadmin
[02:22] <Alethes> :)
[02:23] <icanhasadmin> I'd like to think so. I like text based rpgs and rubiks cubes :(
[02:23] <icanhasadmin> Totally not cool enough tho. But thank you :)
[02:23] <prince_jammys> 80s stuff, huh
[02:23] <Dr_willis_> Go play Wesnoth for a few hrs.
[02:24] <icanhasadmin> nethack ftw
[02:24] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: you should install ubuntu on your commodore 64/sinclair spectrum
[02:24] <Dr_willis_> i gave up on nethack after they removed the pick-ax cheats. :)
[02:24] <dennister> hey BluesKaj, did the launchpad line help? r u in ur drive's kde now?
[02:24]  * Dr_willis_ has a C64 and a Spectrum.
[02:24] <icanhasadmin> I love this place, really.
[02:24] <Xbehave> does anybody know much about amarok, in particular scripts?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> everything seems ok , except my scrn res...won't save my 1152x864 settings , reverts to widecscreen 1280x1024
[02:25] <icanhasadmin> 1152x864? what kind of monitor is that..
[02:26] <dennister> wonderful...some progress anyway, ur not in livecd anymore
[02:26] <Arwen> a 3:2 one? :-p
[02:26] <icanhasadmin> oh..
[02:26]  * icanhasadmin can't count
[02:26] <Arwen> [21:25] <BluesKaj> everything seems ok , except my scrn res...won't save my 1152x864 settings , reverts to widecscreen 1280x1024 <-- how is 1280x1024 widescreen?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> hi dennister , it seems good yeah ..so far anyway ...put adept notifier on ice for now tho...don't trust any more updates :P
[02:26] <icanhasadmin> yeah,.. 1280x800 is wide i though
[02:26] <icanhasadmin> *t
[02:26]  * Arwen doesn't trust updates. It's Hardy after all.
[02:26] <Alethes> BluesKaj: yeah, might as well just wait for hardy now
[02:26]  * icanhasadmin pretends to be helpful
[02:26] <BluesKaj> Arwen:  it is for me
[02:26] <draik> Dr_willis_: Got it fixed. Made it start an empty session. Now I'm starting what I want and that will be my new session
[02:26] <dennister> lol...know what you mean...well i'm gonna take off, night folks
[02:27] <BluesKaj> nite dennister
[02:28] <BluesKaj> not on Hardy , gutsy here
[02:28] <Xbehave> does anybody know much about amarok, or ~/.kde ? ive got noexec on my /home but i want to install amarok scripts to
[02:29] <BluesKaj> Arwen: ok it isn't wide screen but it's meant for larger scrn than this ol' 17" Mitsubishi Diamond plus 73
[02:29] <prince_jammys> Xbehave: you mean you can't execute scripts in your home dir?
[02:30] <Arwen> anyway reboot time... now if only kernels could be swapped on-the-fly
[02:30]  * BluesKaj examines newly generated xorg.config file
[02:31] <Xbehave> yeah, well i think i cant execute anything(including scripts) and i get an error when trying to install them from amarok
[02:31] <flipstar> i'll leave now..
[02:31] <flipstar> cya
[02:32] <BluesKaj> strange , the xorg.config file is still empty
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> shouldn't it be xorg.conf? >_>
[02:35] <prince_jammys> yes
[02:36] <Arwen> anyone here understand the inner workings of fglrx? the latest versions are supposed to be way faster, but they're dog slow on my system
[02:37] <prince_jammys> not i
[02:38] <BluesKaj> the latest versions don't run well on onboard ati
[02:38] <yurimxpxman> how can I add music to my 6th generation iPod? I haven't had any luck.
[02:39] <Authority> when booting, two devices get created for my one network card, wifi0 and wlan0.  Only wlan0 (hostap driver) is actually used and wifi0 just has a bunch of errors in dmesg.  how can I figure out what is creating wifi0 and stop it?
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Arwen:  i have an ati x200G onboard and the restricted driver works well . even tvtime
[02:40] <Authority> =
[02:40] <Arwen> BluesKaj, odd, because on 8.2, MPlayer with GL output is at least 2-3 times slower.
[02:41] <Arwen> and it has funky tearing
[02:42] <BluesKaj> Arwen:  I'm on 8.37 , which is actually older i think
[02:42] <eddy> someone speak spanish
[02:42] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:42] <prince_jammys> !es | eddy
[02:42] <ubotu> eddy: please see above
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> eddy: i do but ask there.
[02:42] <Arwen> BluesKaj, it is. That one worked ok.
[02:42] <Arwen> I'm on Hardy Heron though and apparently this is the only one supporting the .24 kernel
[02:43] <eddy> thanks a lot
[02:43] <beautifulsnow> how do you get hardy heron? O_o
[02:43] <LjL> !hardy > beautifulsnow    (beautifulsnow, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:45] <Arwen> someone ought to fix that though.... the r300 driver is faster...
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Arwen: it is an F/OSS project...you could fix it
[02:46] <Arwen> fglrx? it is NOT open
[02:46] <Arwen> and that's what I'm complaining about
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i seemed to not read well...
[02:49] <[Archon]> how can i get the url, username workgroup (etc) settings from smb://some.com/path so i can put it in the CLI (and fstab)?
[02:52] <Stoffer> fsck is asking me to choose a different superblock to check my hard drive.... can someone help me choose the right one?
[02:53] <Stoffer> nm
[02:54] <Ahmuck> hi.  something happened to my battery meter.  battery meter does not seem to be showing correctly.  it dropped and rises sudenly
[02:54] <BanTam> what a pain in the butt, all that work for nothing
[02:55] <BanTam> so i guess i will ask
[02:55] <BanTam> does anyone else know about MergedFB?
[02:59] <Ahmuck> so i've been at 0.0% now for 10 min on the laptop battery bar
[03:05] <dogma_> !fr
[03:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:05] <pat_> Hi all, I am receiving a ton of these msg's: "bcm43xx: MAC suspend failed" I can access a term, but I can't start the gui, it fails at "initializing services". I just want to be able to get to the gui as I have an idea how to fix this if I can, any suggestions?
[03:06] <tekteen> pat_: bcm43xx is the wifi driver
[03:06] <tekteen> they are unrelated
[03:06] <tekteen> pat_: as for X failing to start ...
[03:06] <tekteen> !X
[03:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:06] <pat_> tekteen: I understand that, and I believe I caused this because I was trying to get my wifi working. Now my new prob is that I cannot boot into the gui sinced I caused this problem
[03:07] <tekteen> oh
[03:07] <tekteen> pat_: has the gui ever worked
[03:07] <tekteen> ?
[03:07] <pat_> yes
[03:07] <pat_> this is a new install on a new laptop, so it was working until I tried to switch from wired internet to wifi
[03:08] <tekteen> pat_: what have you done lately? installed restricted drivers?
[03:08] <tekteen> for the video I mean
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> pat_» can you get to the login screen?
[03:09] <pat_> last think i did was using knetworkmanager, I attempted to disconnect wired, switch to wireless, then when I restarted, it won't let me get past "initializing services", if I switch to a tty, I get constant msg's that I mentioned above, even while logged in
[03:09] <pat_> nosrednaekim: yes
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> pat_» its an unrelated problem... do you live in canada?
[03:10] <pat_> yes
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> bingo :)
[03:10] <pat_> huh? lol
[03:10] <pat_> kubuntu doesn't like people from Canada? :P
[03:11] <tekteen> pat_: try to type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a terminal
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> tekteen» no no!
[03:11] <tekteen> ok
[03:11] <tekteen> sorry
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> tekteen» have you heard of the lang-pack problem yet?
[03:11] <tekteen> nope
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-kde-en/+bug/195647
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> not that canada's a bad place, there's a problem with the updated language pack for en-CA
[03:12] <pat_> nosrednaekim: I'm aware of that problem and did fix it (or so I think), can it pop up again?
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> pat_» seems its hitting again.... did you remove those two packages?
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> pat_» it may happen every time you update, i'm not sure
[03:12] <pat_> if it's the same thing I'm thinking of, it caused all my k menu options to have some weird strings before the item, i have resolved that
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> no..its different
[03:13] <pat_> I'll check the link, brb
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> pat_» the command to remove it is "sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-base"
[03:16] <draik> Is there an app that helps in learning another language? Particularly Japanese
[03:16] <pat_> nosrednaekim: yep, that did it! Wow, so I had 2 diff probs at the same time. Now, anything I can do about the lang packs?
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> yup, uninstall the,
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> "them
[03:17] <pat_> Can i just select us-en and that will work?
[03:17] <pat_> they are now uninstalled
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> actually... this might work better "sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-en=1:7.10+20071120 language-pack-kde-en-base=1:7.10+20071012"
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> that will install the old version
[03:17] <pat_> k, i'll give that a try, brb
[03:23] <pat_> ok, that worked. I was able to log out and relogin. Adept manager is suggesting I update to the new lang pack, I guess I don't want to do that then right?
[03:23] <AgentZ86> if you have Ubuntu installed, and want to install Kubuntu to a different partition with also it's own swap partition will Ubuntu get messed up ??
[03:24] <BanTam> adept manager always give me erros halfway through an upgrade
[03:24] <BanTam> errors
[03:24] <BanTam> EVERY time
[03:24] <BanTam> i shouldve known better and used the terminal
[03:24] <pat_> I'll seach that on google and see what more I can do about that. Thanks for your help nosrednaekim!
[03:25] <pat_> That temp solved my logging into the gui problem, now to solve my stupid broadcom prob. Other than these 2 issues, I'm very happy with gutsy :)
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> pat_» lol
[03:27]  * BluesKaj vows to keep adept notifier hidden 'til this mess is cleaned up 
[03:27] <noodles12> AgentZ86: why do you want to do that? You can install kubuntu-desktop and just change the session when you login
[03:28] <noodles12> AgentZ86: kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome.
[03:30] <jumpkick> my kubuntu desktop went blank (no desktop icons, but taskbar still), so I restarted X, now when I try to login to the desktop again from KDM, I get to "initializing system services", then X crashes and I'm back to KDM
[03:30] <jumpkick> is there some way I can troubleshoot this?
[03:31] <mrunagi> kubuntu doesnt correct my spelling anymore
[03:31] <AgentZ86> noodles12: well, I'm not sure really I want to run the java app from www.fxcm.com and it's actually working, but when I open a position in my trade I can't set stops/limits, and someone told me they are using Kubuntu and they don't have a problem, so I wanted to test for myself. I don't know why it would be different, or why I can't use all the features of this trading platform, but I figured I would try it
[03:31] <mrunagi> how can i turn that back on
[03:31] <noodles12> jumpkick: i'd check in /var/log/syslog & /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:32] <jumpkick> noodles12: thanks I'll tail both those and see what happens
[03:32] <pat_> jumpkick: I just had that prob and nosrednaekim solved it for me: uninstall lang packs doing this from a term: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-base
[03:33] <noodles12> AgentZ86: if it works fine in kubuntu just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu"     then log out. and change the session to kde and log back in. u should then be in "kubuntu" and try your ap
[03:33] <AgentZ86> noodles12: basically I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy and all works very well, however this java start app I thought worked, but after further review I noticed I could not set my stop/limit orders, the button just does not work. But the close position button does work.
[03:34] <jumpkick> pat_: I noticed those lang packs were updated and xine was uninstalled when I first logged in today
[03:34] <jumpkick> I'll give that a shot
[03:34] <AgentZ86> noodles12: thanks, but why would kubuntu be any different for this java app ?
[03:34] <pat_> same thing for me, that's when my probs started
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jumpkick» yup... you canucks are getting hit hard this week:)
[03:34] <AgentZ86> I'll try it anyhow I have to see
[03:34] <noodles12> AgentZ86: I honestly have no idea on that issue. just trying ot save you from installing kubuntu on dif. partition. My guess is maybe something with the kdelibs or different default preferences in kubuntu
[03:34] <pat_> I had my lang pack set to en-ca (canada), I reinstalled them, set everything to en-us and it all appears to work fine now
[03:35] <AgentZ86> and sudo apt-get install kubuntu, won't harm my current Ubuntu installation ?
[03:35] <pat_> nosrednaekim: thanks again, this was my last stop before reinstalling. You saved me a couple of hours for sure :)
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> pat_» you are welcome....alot of people have been reinstalling.. and THEN coming here
[03:36] <AgentZ86> noodles12: and sudo apt-get install kubuntu, won't harm my current Ubuntu installation ?
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» nope... and its "kubuntu-desktop"
[03:36] <noodles12> AgentZ86: kubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <noodles12> nvm he  beat me
[03:36] <AgentZ86> oh, ok thanks,
[03:36] <noodles12> AgentZ86: and no it won't.
[03:36] <AgentZ86> can I use the applications/add remove menu for that also ?
[03:37] <jumpkick> nosrednaekim - yeah I'm a Canadian... :D ...  removing language-pack-kde-en has resolved it
[03:37] <pat_> nosrednaekim: if anyone asks in the future, I've tested several ways now, it appears that if I select en-us and then upgrade, I'm not having those probs anymore. Since there isn't any difference between canada and the usa really, it's no big deal till they get this fixed
[03:37] <AgentZ86> or synaptic ? or just apt-get is the best ?
[03:37] <jumpkick> thanks everybody
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> pat_» yeah... thats probably best... or just switch to a US mirror
[03:37] <noodles12> AgentZ86: i think all the above. though kubuntu uses adept_manager instead of synaptic. you might already have it since you had ubuntu installed first.
[03:37] <jumpkick> pat_: we spell colour with a u
[03:37] <jumpkick> :P
[03:38] <pat_> jumpkick: and flavour, and aboot :P
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> jumpkick» well its about time you learned the correct spelling :)
[03:39] <jumpkick> nosrednaekim: you better tell the Brits from whom we both got our language before you guys started mispelling everything... lol
[03:39] <shaffy> okay, help is needed.  today, after i installed the latest kubuntu updates, KDE login would no longer work -- an x-restart would happen at "loading desktop."  i reinstalled kubuntu just now, did an update from the repositories and i've gotten the same problem... is there something going on with the latest upgrades?
[03:40] <jumpkick> or should I say correcting everything
[03:40] <pat_> shaffy: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-base
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» you are canadian....see aren't I smart?
[03:40] <shaffy> nosrednaekim: yes, why???
[03:40] <jumpkick> we are being desimated by the package updater...  hahaha
[03:40] <shaffy> pat_: so there is a problem?
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» kubuntu declared war of canucks yesterday
[03:41] <pat_> shaffy: yes, kubuntu doesn't like us canadians anymore :)
[03:41] <shaffy> haha
[03:41] <noodles12> didn't know there were so many canadians in here =P
[03:41] <pat_> nosrednaekim: lol
[03:41] <shaffy> lol
[03:41] <shaffy> what's going on though?
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> the lang-pack is screwed up
[03:41] <shaffy> but why just the canucks?
[03:41] <jumpkick> the lang-pack update nuked us
[03:41] <noodles12> kubuntu officially stopped supporting canadians
[03:42] <shaffy> lol
[03:42] <shaffy> yeah
[03:42] <jumpkick> bitterness over the dollar going to $1.01 is my bet
[03:42] <pat_> shaffy: after you do that, reinstall it, switch everything to en-us, upgrade, and no more problems (other than the fact you have to suffer americans dreadful spelling errors, lol)
[03:43] <shaffy> pat_: they will fix it eventually, though?
[03:43] <jumpkick> that and those US McDonald's dollar menu ads
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» probably.
[03:43] <pat_> shaffy: I'm sure they will, nobody wants to suffer canadians fury :P
[03:43] <shaffy> lol yeah
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» its confirmed and they are working on it... BTW..... if you look at the error, its something about plurals or something ;)
[03:43] <jumpkick> shaffy: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en
[03:43] <jumpkick> fixed it for me
[03:44] <jumpkick> if you can get to a shell to do it
[03:44] <shaffy> okay.. so language-pack-kde-base does not need to be removed then?
[03:44] <jumpkick> didn't exist on my system
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» it may..not sure.
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» try without
[03:44] <AgentZ86> installing kubuntu-desktop now via synaptic, and all dependencies which synaptic automatically selected fingers crossed
[03:44] <shaffy> okay, thanks everyone.  much appreciated.. i knew something was up.
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» BTW... are you canadian?
[03:45] <AgentZ86> no
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» awesome... you shouldn't have any problems then
[03:45] <noodles12> lol
[03:45] <AgentZ86> thanks
[03:45] <mot> how do i reconfigure xorg.conf?
[03:45] <shaffy> okay, later everyone.  thx.  i'll be back in a few mins.  peace.
[03:46] <jumpkick> lol
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> mot» "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" what is your problem?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> language-pack-kde-base must be removed as well
[03:47] <BluesKaj> we canadians gotta stick together ... someone owes us an apology for this mess :)
[03:47] <jumpkick> we need a metapackage... so we can "sudo apt-get install help-canadians"
[03:48] <AgentZ86> crap it's asking for my default display manager ? I don't know what it is ?
[03:48] <Pici> jumpkick: eh?
[03:48] <jumpkick> Pici: to automatically remove the lang packs
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» select gdm
[03:48] <jumpkick> eh
[03:48] <AgentZ86> thanks
[03:48] <jumpkick> kdm
[03:48] <Pici> :p
[03:48] <jumpkick> gdm is gnome
[03:48] <jumpkick> the enemy!
[03:49] <AgentZ86> oh crap
[03:49] <jumpkick> :P
[03:49] <Strangelet> I accidentally removed everything on my KDE panel, now, I am trying to move things back into place, but applets such as the 'system tray' and 'taskbar' cannot seem to be moved. How do I move them?
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> jumpkick» but he is using ubuntu...
[03:49] <AgentZ86> I already have ubuntu installed so I want the kdm darn
[03:49] <jumpkick> it actually doesn't matter
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» it doesn't matter
[03:49] <jumpkick> they both will work fine
[03:49] <AgentZ86> where can I change it after the install finishes
[03:49] <AgentZ86> ?
[03:49] <jumpkick> ^^ - what he said
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[03:50] <noodles12> AgentZ86: just log out. change session to kde. and log back in
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> noodles12» I think he means the display manager
[03:50] <noodles12> oh.. my bad
[03:50] <mrnotproper> :q
[03:50] <mrnotproper> ohh sorry..
[03:51] <shaffy> okay, i'm back.  so where do i change the language setting so i can do an update without my comp crashing?
[03:51] <noodles12> shouldn't he keep it as gdm? since he is just trying kubuntu . he already has ubuntu installed?
[03:51] <AgentZ86> yep when synaptic got to a point it asked which display manager I wanted kdm or gdm for default
[03:51] <shaffy> change it to american english i'm guessing?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» ya.... REAL english ;)
[03:51] <shaffy> hehe
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» british english might actually be closer though
[03:52] <jumpkick> non-english english
[03:52] <jcgkffycs> I there a global shortcut key combination toswitch desktops?
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> jcgkffycs» no, you can set one though
[03:52] <jcgkffycs> how? I have looked through all the config dialogues.
[03:52] <Peng> Ok. I'd like to install Kubuntu on a system with two hard drives in RAID 1, with partitions with some data on them. Can I reuse the partitions without losing data?
[03:53] <AgentZ86> so I wanted kdm ?? display manager right ?
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» doesn't matter.
[03:53] <AgentZ86> once install completes I can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?
[03:53] <noodles12> AgentZ86: i don't think it
[03:53] <AgentZ86> doesn't matter, ok
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> Peng» yes, I think you can
[03:54] <BluesKaj> brit english and canadian english have the *our spellings in common
[03:54] <jumpkick> my bet is it would be an update-alternatives
[03:54] <AgentZ86> I was just thinking to stay with the most pure kde as I can in my test of this java app. I want to see the difference between how it works with Ubuntu vs Kubuntu
[03:54] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: testing a java app doesn't matter
[03:54] <jumpkick> (I'm a java programmer @ work)
[03:55] <Peng> nosrednaekim: One thing is, the installer seems to be aware of the disk (/dev/sd*) devices, not the RAID devices..
[03:55] <jumpkick> long as they both launch the KDE desktop the are the same
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> Peng» yes, I think you have to use the alternate installer to correctly set up the RAID
[03:55] <AgentZ86> Jumpkick thats what I thought, but I'm missing a feature of an app. on my Ubuntu where someone else is using Kubuntu and has no problem,  and I dont' know why so I figured I would try the Kubuntu also to see if there was any difference on my end
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> !raid
[03:55] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[03:55] <jumpkick> both gdm and kdm esseentially hand-off X to kwin, etc
[03:56] <Peng> nosrednaekim: The alternate installer? As in when booting, not "Start and install Kubuntu"?
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> Peng» another whole CD
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> !alternate
[03:56] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[03:56] <adred> hello, why is it that theres no compiz icon after i installed it. i followed the instructions in help.kubuntu but its not working
[03:56] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: dependancies are a bit different for gnome desktop (gtk based) vs. kde desktop (qt-based)
[03:57] <Peng> nosrednaekim: I have the DVD, so it should have it. One boot entry is "alternate installer" or something.
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> adred» there IS no compiz icon.
[03:57] <Peng> nosrednaekim: Is the alternate installer a CLI?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> Peng» ah... yeah thats probably it
[03:57] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: you might consider that you will still have the gnome dependancies if you are installing kde in addtion to gnome
[03:58] <adred> ok, but i tried to run through run command by typing ccsm, it didn't load up
[03:58] <jumpkick> for a true test you probably want to do a clean install of kubuntu (no gnome libs) inside a VM
[03:58] <AgentZ86> thats something I did consider that is why I was considering to install on a separate partition to try my test, but I really don't understand why a java app would work on Kubuntu and not on Ubuntu
[03:58] <Peng> Right, it's a CLI...
[03:58] <noodles12> jumpkick: or he could install kubuntu-desktop. then go into kubuntu and remove ubuntu-destkop ?
[03:59] <adred> so how do i access compiz then?
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> adred» use "compiz --replace"
[03:59] <AgentZ86> I don't want to mess up my Ubuntu though I use this thing for work everyday
[03:59] <adred> i did it already..
[03:59] <noodles12> AgentZ86: i missed a bit of the chat. are you in kubuntu and tried the app?
[03:59] <jumpkick> noodles12: he could but he doesn't want to mess up his gnome desktop
[03:59] <AgentZ86> no I'm in Ubuntu
[04:00] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: install vmware-server, put a kubuntu image in a vm and test
[04:00] <AgentZ86> Ubuntu, the app works, but there is like one right click feature with a menu that has one menu item disabled
[04:00] <jumpkick> delete VM when done
[04:00] <jumpkick> oh
[04:00] <AgentZ86> I right click and I should be able to select stop/limit or close, and only the close button works in the trading platform
[04:01] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: eclipse-trader or something?
[04:01] <AgentZ86> Someone told me they use Kubuntu and the app works perfect, and the right click menu items work well, so I figured I try something with Kubuntu to see for myself
[04:02] <jumpkick> sounds fishy
[04:02] <AgentZ86> it's www.fxcm.com it's their java platform
[04:02] <jumpkick> maybe you don't have permission or maybe the channel doesn't support it
[04:02] <jumpkick> or maybe time of day prevents it
[04:02] <BluesKaj> ok gents , after removing those language packs , evertime i run an install I get this :perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:LANGUAGE = (unset),:LC_ALL = (unset),LANG = "en_CA.UTF-8". perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")....I't's prolly just unimportant but zi'd still like to get rid of the warnings . ...any suggestions ?
[04:02] <adred> the instructions say, KMenu->Settings-> CompizConfig...but i couldn't' find "CompizConfig icon nor link in the KMenu...:(
[04:03] <AgentZ86> but it says for apple users standalone platform or something, but it seems to all work but that feature,
[04:03] <jumpkick> BluesKaj: ignore it
[04:03] <AgentZ86> I'm guessing i have to restart to open kubuntu desktop huh ?
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» install a us lang pack
[04:04] <prince_jammys> adred: try typing in terminal:::   ccsm
[04:04] <AgentZ86> be back after test
[04:04] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: log out / login or xnest
[04:04] <AgentZ86> thanks
[04:04] <BluesKaj> the US lang pack didn't work the previous install , nosrednaekim
[04:04] <jumpkick> xnest is how I tested kde4
[04:04] <adred> it says ccsm is not currently installed
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj»^_^
[04:05] <BluesKaj> it was broken too
[04:05] <Strangelet> I accidentally removed everything on my KDE panel, now, I am trying to move things back into place, but applets such as the 'system tray' and 'taskbar' cannot seem to be moved. How do I move them?
[04:05] <adred> ive just installed it
[04:05] <prince_jammys> adred: try::   compiz --replace
[04:05] <noodles12> Strangelet: there should mea  small arrow towards buttom left of the applet. right click there to move
[04:06] <adred> i got this: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[04:06] <adred> No whitelisted driver found
[04:06] <adred> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[04:06] <adred> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> bye guys.... good luck to you canadians....
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> adred» you have an ATI?
[04:06] <adred> yes
[04:06] <BluesKaj> well, bedtime for old guys ...this kubuntu sha-mozz has worn me out :)
[04:06] <Strangelet> noodles12: I do not see any such arrows :(
[04:06] <BluesKaj> nite all
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> adred» which driver are you using
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> night BluesKaj
[04:06] <noodles12> Strangelet: it shows up when u put your mouse over it
[04:07] <Strangelet> noodles12: not showing up
[04:08] <adred> i couldn't remember which one,.
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> adred» did you install it with the restricted-manager?
[04:09] <adred> i installed through console
[04:09] <adred> i installed it through console
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> adred» you downloaded it off the ATI website?
[04:10] <oloughlin75> I bet he apt-get'ed it
[04:11] <adred> no, i just stumbled on certain forum thread discussing about How To install ati drivers. i just followed whats written there
[04:11] <noodles12> AgentZ86: u in kubuntu now? how'd it go?
[04:11] <AgentZ86> hmm, It said on reboot I was using Kubuntu but I saw no selection for Gnome or KDE it just went to Kbuntu automatically ?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> adred» ohhhh
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> bye guys
[04:11] <adred> something has gone wrong?
[04:11] <noodles12> AgentZ86: you change the session at the login screen to change between the two
[04:12] <AgentZ86> I can't tell anything really different desktop appears the same, still looks like Gnome
[04:12] <AgentZ86> I didn't see a selection to change anything I'll try again
[04:12] <adred> should i redo it? maybe you a better idea on how to install it
[04:12] <adred> have
[04:16] <adred> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx --> that's the one i used to install the ati driver
[04:35] <Konner> Hello
[04:35] <Strangelet> How do I move my taskbar about? I cannot find any 'arrows' or anything of the sort when I hover my mouse around it.
[04:35] <BanTam> did you try just dragging it with your mouse?
[04:35] <noodles12> Strangelet: the actual task bar you just click on and drag
[04:35] <Konner> I need help setting up my Linksys WMP54GS Wireless card on Kubuntu.
[04:36] <Konner> Im on Windows XP right now looking for help
[04:36] <BanTam> you got to use ndiswrapper Konner
[04:36] <BanTam> with windows drivers
[04:36] <Konner> I have NO clue how to get NDISwrapper
[04:36] <BanTam> its easy
[04:36] <Konner> and how to use it
[04:36] <Strangelet> hehe, hallo again noodles12, yah, that moves the KDE menu bar, but that is all
[04:36] <Konner> Can you help me then?
[04:37] <BanTam> gimme a sec to find the info for you
[04:37] <BanTam> sure
[04:37] <Konner> ok
[04:37] <Konner> =]
[04:38] <tophat> wtf mate
[04:39] <BanTam> konner 1st you got to get ndiswrapper
[04:39] <Konner> How do i install ndiswrapper
[04:39] <Konner> i have it downloaded
[04:39] <Konner> \and extracted on my desktop
[04:39] <BanTam> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper
[04:39] <BanTam> you need 2 files
[04:39] <Konner> Which ones/
[04:39] <BanTam> Ndiswrapper-common & ndiswrapper-utils
[04:40] <Konner> ohh
[04:40] <Konner> i have those
[04:40] <Konner> installed
[04:40] <Konner> already
[04:40] <BanTam> you sure?
[04:40] <Konner> yeah
[04:40] <BanTam> ok
[04:40] <Konner> i downlaoded thewm
[04:40] <BanTam> you got your windows wifi drivers?
[04:40] <Konner> yes
[04:40] <BanTam> put them in your home folder
[04:40] <Konner> And i accedently changed it to manual configureation
[04:41] <BanTam> did you have your wifi working at all?
[04:41] <Konner> no
[04:41] <BanTam> what did you change to manual?
[04:41] <Konner> the wireless
[04:41] <Konner> i changed it on accedent
[04:41] <BanTam> shouldnt be a problem
[04:41] <BanTam> ok now go into a terminal
[04:41] <Konner> im on windows.
[04:41] <BanTam> oh
[04:41] <BanTam> ok well
[04:41] <Konner> internet not working on linux.
[04:42] <BanTam> np
[04:42] <r240> can anyone help a total kubuntu newb? too many problems/questions to solve :/
[04:42] <BanTam> in terminal you need to type
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !ask | r240
[04:42] <ubotu> r240: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:43] <BanTam> ndiswrapper -i  <nameof driver.inf>
[04:43] <Konner> do i need the <>
[04:43] <r240> let me take a deep breath
[04:43] <BanTam> CORRECTION
[04:43] <BanTam> you need to type
[04:43] <BanTam> sudo ndiswrapper -i  <nameof driver.inf>
[04:44] <BanTam> then
[04:44] <BanTam> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:44] <BanTam> then sudo ndiswrapper -m
[04:44] <BanTam> that should be it
[04:44] <Konner> do i need the <> on it?
[04:45] <BanTam> no
[04:45] <Konner> ok
[04:45] <Konner> ill brb if i have any problem ill come back
[04:45] <BanTam> then you right click on the network manager and you SHOULD see wireless networks available to you
[04:45] <Konner> ok
[04:45] <Konner> But its on manual
[04:45] <Konner> i dont see the wireless
[04:45] <Konner> theres no wireless tab
[04:45] <Konner> or whatever
[04:45] <BanTam> knetwork manager?
[04:46] <Konner> theres that
[04:46] <BanTam> thats it
[04:46] <Konner> but when i right click it
[04:46] <Konner> it doesnt say
[04:46] <Konner> Wireless Networks
[04:46] <Konner> it says wired
[04:46] <BanTam> it wonr say anything until there is a wireless network
[04:46] <Konner> Ok
[04:46] <Konner> ill brb
[04:46] <BanTam> k
[04:48] <r240> 1) i have no sound. a quick look shows that soundblaster is detected, it just seems like the driver/module is not loaded for some reason. 2) i have no video either. it seems i have to install extra (forget what it's called now, restricted extra maybe?) package for codecs which apparently includes java which i am not sure if i want. I would probably want support for rm, mpg and the like as well. I have installed flash nonfree so in
[04:48] <r240> ternet streaming is fine. 3) i have firefox 2 but for some reason, every time i download something, the download manager will only allow me to save to root,home or desktop, none of my other two partitions are listed. 4) i need support to play mp3 as well
[04:49] <mkquist> r240: if u have no video and audio r u booting to shell?
[04:49] <r240> i am not even sure what that means -_-
[04:49] <r240> <--- total newb :/
[04:50] <mkquist> well, u said u have no sound and u have no video...
[04:50] <r240> i can't play video and i have no sound
[04:50] <mkquist> r240: ahh.. ic now.. diff, yes youll need restricted see !medibuntu for that
[04:50] <mkquist> !medibuntu
[04:50] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:50] <r240> i have onboard sound as mobo beeps when i over-backspace in xchat
[04:51] <r240> i can grab restricted from adept yest?
[04:51] <AgentZ86> java app no different, in kde, I wonder why that one person can use it in Kubuntu, it's probably nothing to do with it, and more likely something to do with my java install or something
[04:51] <mkquist> r240: for sound i find this post useful - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:51] <mkquist> r240: yes, that side will tell you how
[04:51] <AgentZ86> well, thanks for the help all, chat at ya tomorrow
[04:52] <mkquist> r240: the medibuntu one that is
[04:52] <r240> so you know, i have read several pages on my sound problem already and i have only a headache to show. then again, i am a total newb @_@
[04:53] <r240> the cmds for console is killing me -_-
[04:53] <r240> anyways, let me read that link real quick. thank you
[04:53] <regeya> heh
[04:53] <mkquist> r240: that page is really step by step
[04:53] <r240> ah
[04:53] <r240> i DID read that page
[04:53] <r240> i got to step 3
[04:53] <r240> i have no idea how to find my driver from that link
[04:53]  * regeya realizes that growing up in the AppleDOS and MS-DOS days was good for him
[04:54] <Konner> I had a problem
[04:54] <BanTam> ?
[04:54]  * r240 just switched from windows four days ago
[04:54] <regeya> no longer?
[04:54] <noodles12> AgentZ86: you're back. i'm guesssing it didn't work
[04:54] <Konner> I forgot to include the .sys file so it didnt complete the installation
[04:54] <r240> anyone help with step 3 please?
[04:54] <Konner> now it says its already installed
[04:54] <regeya> r240: hang in there, you'll get it; sounds like you're determined so that's good
[04:54] <BanTam> lol
[04:55] <shaffy> does anyone know how to set Krusader as the default file manager?
[04:55] <BanTam> ok lemme think
[04:56] <Konner> :S
[04:56] <regeya> heh, every new computer I've had since '98, I've had to fight with sound problems on (except the ones where I say 'to heck with this, my old sound card worked!' and throw that'un in)
[04:56] <BanTam> goto /etc/ndiswrapper and delete the folder that has your drivers name on it
[04:56] <Konner> It says access denied i tried that
[04:56] <BanTam> and make sure all the files for your driver are available before you do it again
[04:57] <r240> the thing is my sound worked under v6 immediately after install
[04:57] <Konner> i put all the files in.
[04:57] <r240> 7.1 not so lucky :/
[04:57] <BanTam> you did sudo rm /etc/ndiswrapper/drivername?
[04:57] <r240> anyways, anyone can explain step 3 please?
[04:57] <BanTam> you gotta do it as root
[04:57] <Konner> oh.
[04:57] <BanTam> :)
[04:58] <regeya> well, r240 you can probably find your sound card under kinfocenter (under K menu -> system)  it'll likely be listed under pci
[04:58] <noodles12> r240: if i'm not mistaken. step 3 is jus tto go that site and look for chipset manufacturer of your card?
[04:58] <regeya> that's essentially equiv. to running 'lspci' from the command line
[04:58] <r240> i know it's silly but i have no idea how to look for my chipset
[04:58] <noodles12> r240: or someting close to what you got from typing "lspci -v" in the konsole
[04:59] <r240> i can find my sound card but step 3 suggests i need to know the driver name?
[04:59] <r240> which i can't find
[04:59] <regeya> r240: and if you don't find it in kinfocenter or via lspci, if you still have windows installed, you can likely find it under the control panel
[05:00] <r240> apparently i have type 10 alsa emulation for my driver?
[05:00] <regeya> r240: lspci or kinfocenter will give you a list of the hardware on the pci bus.  unless you're using usb audio or something, that's where your sound card is likely to be, on the pci bus.  if you look for 'sound' or 'audio' or something similar, you can usually get a clue as to what chipset you have
[05:00] <r240> that's the thing, what is chipset?
[05:00] <r240> i have a soundblaster live 5.1
[05:01] <r240> under kinfocenter, it lists a lot of info that i don't understand -_-
[05:01] <regeya> ok...hey, I think that's what I have.
[05:01] <r240> well then! show me what you know!
[05:01] <regeya> 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) <- yep
[05:01] <regeya> so that's...
[05:01] <r240> where are you reading that?
[05:02] <regeya> emu10k1
[05:02] <regeya> r240: lspci
[05:02] <regeya> from the konsole
[05:02] <r240> ah, i am in kinfocenter
[05:02] <r240> let me get to konsole
[05:02] <regeya> in my case, my chipset is emu10k1
[05:02] <regeya> it's also listed in kinfocenter
[05:02] <regeya> the pci tab is just the output of lspci, I think
[05:03] <r240> where mine say emul10kl, it's listed under synth devices
[05:03] <regeya> anyways, I wonder what your chipset is; my card was just supported pretty much out of the box
[05:03] <Konner> I couldnt remove it
[05:03] <Konner> it says its a directory
[05:03] <r240> ugh. it did for 6 but not for 7.1
[05:03] <BanTam> ok try this
[05:04] <BanTam> sudo ndiswrapper -e <drivername.inf>
[05:04] <Konner> I removed the .inf
[05:04] <Konner> but i cant reemove the directory
[05:04] <Konner> so it cant install
[05:04] <r240> so my chipset is emu10kl?
[05:04] <BanTam> try that command
[05:04] <Konner> k
[05:06] <r240> it says module emu10kl is not found
[05:06] <r240> but that's what's showing under lspci
[05:07] <crimsun_> snd-emu10k1
[05:08] <crimsun_> emu10k1 is the OSS/Free's name.
[05:09] <r240> i typed sudo modprobe snd-emu10kl per step 4
[05:09] <r240> it gave me fatal: module not found
[05:16] <crimsun_> r240: it's not an 'el'
[05:16] <crimsun_> r240: it's a 'one'
[05:17] <Konner> Ahh
[05:17] <Konner> I got the drivers and stuff installed
[05:17] <BanTam> ok
[05:17] <Konner> but the manual configuration doesnt work
[05:17] <Konner> i have it on that
[05:17] <r240> eee emmmmm uuuuuuuuu one zero kay ellll   right?
[05:17] <Konner> i cant choose my network
[05:17] <Konner> :(
[05:17] <BanTam> what happens when you right click on the network manager?
[05:17] <Konner> It says wired
[05:17] <Konner> and below for wireless it says manual
[05:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> one zero kay one
[05:18] <r240> oh
[05:18] <crimsun_> r240: you seem to have missed my memo.  not l as in 'el' but 1 as in 'one'.
[05:18] <BanTam> hmm
[05:18] <Konner> i need to turn off manual configureation
[05:18] <BanTam> did you try reboting after you install the drivers?
[05:18] <Konner> It worldnt work
[05:18] <Konner> because of manual configureation
[05:19] <Konner> i need to turn that off
[05:19] <hvgotcodes> i just installed kde4 on regular ubuntu -- effects like shadows/translucency don't work -- is this a known issue or did i bork something up?
[05:19] <r240> hmm
[05:19] <r240> what should i expect or do i move on to step 5?
[05:19] <r240> let me try
[05:19] <BanTam> you need to right clikc then go into options
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> hvgotcodes: the guys in #kubuntu-kde4 might have better luck helping you figure that out
[05:20] <hvgotcodes> thankyou
[05:20] <BanTam> and check off start knetmanager automatcially at startup
[05:20] <Konner> What else after that
[05:20] <Konner> ok
[05:20] <Konner> after that?
[05:20] <BanTam> that should do it
[05:20] <Konner> ok
[05:20] <Konner> brb
[05:20] <BanTam> k
[05:21] <r240> um
[05:22] <r240> what do i do after i type: sudo nano /etc/modules snd-emu10k1 ?
[05:22] <r240> it's giving me a weird menu thingy
[05:23] <r240> ooops
[05:24] <r240> i add snd-emu10k1 beneath fuse and lp?
[05:24] <regeya> whoops, r240, was gone; wife is doing thesis, I made the mistake of setting up a postgres8.2 db with oobase as the frontend...heh
[05:24]  * regeya has two different tech support hats on right now :->
[05:25] <r240> it's ok, others have been helpful
[05:25] <regeya> eeeexcellent
[05:25] <r240> how do i exit module? should i save before i exit?
[05:26]  * regeya realizes he had intended to go to bed nearly two hours ago...good night, all...
[05:31] <Konner> uhh
[05:32] <BanTam> whats wrong?
[05:32] <Konner> it didnt disable manual configuration
[05:32] <BanTam> lol
[05:32] <Konner> still says Manual
[05:32] <BanTam> ok
[05:33] <BanTam> right click on it
[05:33] <BanTam> the go into manual configuration
[05:33] <r240> help. how do i save module in konsole?
[05:34] <Konner> I clicked that many times
[05:34] <Konner> what do i do after
[05:35] <BanTam> what do you see?
[05:35] <Konner> uhh..
[05:35] <BanTam> after you click on manual config what happens?
[05:35] <Konner> All it does is let me disable the connection or enable or config the connection
[05:36] <BanTam> it doens show you any wireless networks?
[05:36] <Konner> no
[05:37] <Konner> I cant pick any because of the manual configuration
[05:37] <BanTam> what happens when you left click on it?
[05:38] <Konner> It brings up some box saying no device
[05:38] <BanTam> im wondering if the dirvers are actually working
[05:39] <Konner> It all worked fine on ubuntu but i like the KDE enviroment
[05:39] <BanTam> your going to have to go back into linux and at the terminal type iwconfig and see if it shows youe wifi adapter
[05:39] <Konner> ok
[05:43] <Konner> Ahhh
[05:44] <BanTam> ?
[05:44] <Konner> no it doesnt show i have a wireless device
[05:44] <Konner> No wonder.
[05:44] <BanTam> you folled all the steps?
[05:44] <BanTam> followed?
[05:44] <Konner> yea
[05:44] <Konner> h
[05:44] <BanTam> what happened after you entered sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[05:45] <Konner> It did nothing actualy
[05:45] <BanTam> ok
[05:46] <BanTam> and then you finished by entering sudo ndiswrapper -m ?
[05:46] <evilbug> is there any way to stop touchpad tap-click without an external app? (there is no Touchpad tab in Mouse menu).
[05:46] <Konner> Yeah after that
[05:46] <Konner> it regestered something
[05:46] <beener> rm-fR ~ / .config / deluge can some one tell me what this does?
[05:46] <BanTam> yeah thats what tells it to start when you login
[05:47] <BanTam> well im not sure beener but its going to delete something
[05:47] <BanTam> prob your deluge folder
[05:47] <beener> i was told it was a solution to fix delugs loading problem
[05:47] <BanTam> yeah it will delete it
[05:47] <BanTam> lol
[05:47] <BanTam> thatll fix it alright
[05:47] <beener> so it should only delet that folder?
[05:48] <BanTam> konner: i would try running sudo modprobe ndiswrapper again, the after you enter that type iwconfig
[05:48] <BanTam> also you type sudo ndiswrapper -l
[05:48] <Konner> Hmm
[05:49] <BanTam> it will tell you if it installed the driver you should see the drivers name
[05:49] <beener> ?
[05:49] <Konner> Ok
[05:49] <Konner> ill brb again
[05:49] <BanTam> ok
[05:49] <Konner> i hope this works
[05:49] <Konner> x]
[05:49] <BanTam> me too
[05:49] <BanTam> beener whats wrong?
[05:50] <Lynoure> beener: without the space after rm, nothing. With a space DON'T DO IT.
[05:50] <beener> it that im trying to help a friend and that the only solution i get but for an odd reson. when he ran it his free space went from 5 to 11 gigs
[05:50] <beener> this was before i asked
[05:50] <Lynoure> beener: it would delete your whole home because of there being extra spaces in the path.
[05:51] <Lynoure> unless it just gave an error, anyway, nothing you'd want.
[05:51] <beener> damn i thnk that what happend...
[05:52] <anon32> BanTam, welcome back
[05:52] <BanTam> :)
[05:52] <BanTam> thanks
[05:52] <Lynoure> beener: that's bad. I hope you had either backups or a brand new install...
[05:52] <beener> nope i know he didnt
[05:52] <beener> should it only delete the home folder?
[05:54] <Lynoure> beener: it probably also tries to delete your /  (root filesystem)
[05:54] <beener> damn
[05:54] <Lynoure> beener: and .config and deluge, but at that point those would not be left anymore
[05:55] <beener> when he told me it jump from 5 to 11 gigs
[05:55] <beener> i told him to cut the power
[05:55] <BanTam> someone gave me a similiar command years ago in one of my many failed attempts to learn linux wiped out my entire drive
[05:55] <Strangelet> I cannot move many of the applets on my main KDE toolbar. The taskbar won't move either. The K Menu is virtually the only movable thing, And that is because it has an option. I am apparently supposed to see an 'arrow' or something of the sorts when I hover my mouse over it, but I see nothing. I also tried putting the applets back in, from left to right, taht did not work either. What can I do??
[05:55] <BanTam> theres some real assh*les out there
[05:56] <beener> so he booted it up and got to the mantance shell  ran fschk or sumthing along the lines. and now it boots fine
[05:56] <BanTam> i need a ciggarette
[05:56] <BanTam> brb
[05:56] <beener> hes just missing some music and movies now
[05:56] <Lynoure> beener: that one, in theory, could have been a botched  rm -rf ~/.config/deluge  , which would just remove the deluge directory and everything in it
[05:57] <beener> his whole home folder is basicly gone he said
[05:57] <Konner> Ok
[05:57] <Konner> Im getting some airwaves going on
[05:57] <Konner> xD
[05:57] <Konner> it found it
[05:57] <Konner> but im not getting ANY connection
[05:58] <Lynoure> beener: best way to live with it is to consider it a learning experience. Lessons: 1) Do not run commands you are not sure about 2) Whitespace in commands is significant 3) Take backups regularly
[05:58] <beener> if it runs now it not that bad, right? i know he can always get the files again.
[05:58] <beener> yea
[05:59] <Lynoure> beener: and also it might help to know something similar happens to very very many people at some point of their Linux life
[05:59] <Konner> BanTan
[05:59] <beener> ... i knew they were harsh comands but it was the only "fix" i found
[05:59] <beener> least it boot now
[06:00] <Konner> pssh
[06:00] <billyBobO> does anyone know if Wubi will be available for Kubuntu 8.04?  Or will kubuntu-desktop be needed to install afterwards?
[06:00] <Konner> Help now?
[06:00] <Konner> x]
[06:00] <beener> he said all his stuff need to be configured again
[06:00] <Konner> =[
[06:01] <BanTam> im back i needed a smoke break
[06:01] <BanTam> whats happeneing?
[06:01] <Konner> xD
[06:01] <BanTam> any luck?
[06:01] <Konner> It found a connection
[06:01] <Konner> it was doing something
[06:01] <BanTam> magnificent
[06:01] <BanTam> ;)
[06:01] <Konner> but the manual config wasnt helping at all
[06:01] <beener> damn i just wish it happend to me instead of him.
[06:02] <Konner> It wouldnt conenct
[06:02] <Konner> But it was doing something
[06:02] <BanTam> is it wep protected?
[06:02] <Konner> I might need to check the forums on how to disable this
[06:02] <Konner> :S
[06:02] <Konner> yeah its WEP
[06:02] <BanTam> id it prompt you for the key?
[06:02] <Konner> No
[06:02] <Konner> it wouldnt do anything
[06:02] <BanTam> hrmm
[06:03] <Konner> I couldnt conenct
[06:03] <BanTam> im really not too sure how to get that out of manual mode
[06:03] <BanTam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[06:03] <BanTam> try there
[06:03] <BanTam> i wish i could be of more help
[06:05] <BanTam> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+sources/knetworkmanager/+gethelp
[06:05] <BanTam> Konner try this
[06:06] <BanTam> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+question/15308
[06:06] <Konner> ok
[06:07] <factotum> If I would like to install KDE (to play around with dolphin) and not install the whole blasted kubuntu suite, what should i be looking for as far as packages?
[06:07] <beener> does anyone here know how to configure the setting on a torrent client to be optimized for you conection? (deluge is working now
[06:07] <beener> )
[06:07] <factotum> i did an apt-cache search kde and got quite a list
[06:08] <BanTam> beener when you 1st run deluge it shold run you through a wizard
[06:08] <beener> it doesnt do the specifics though
[06:09] <BanTam> such as?
[06:09] <beener> the whole bandwith settings
[06:09] <BanTam> then go into preferences and then into bandwidth
[06:09] <beener> i had to have a friend do it before but i realy dont want to have him go through it again
[06:10] <beener> er ill get him to do it again
[06:10] <konner> uhh
[06:10] <konner> holy crap.
[06:10] <BanTam> it works?
[06:10] <konner> it connected to the internet when i loged onto
[06:10] <BanTam> sweet
[06:10] <konner> thats weird
[06:10] <konner> needed a restart
[06:10] <BanTam> yeah i was gonna mention that
[06:10] <BanTam> lol
[06:10] <konner> thanks for your help!
[06:10] <BanTam> np
[06:10] <konner> now i can get wine downloaded
[06:10] <ubuntu> hi
[06:10] <konner> =]
[06:10] <BanTam> lol
[06:10] <beener> Lynoure thanks for you help
[06:11] <ubuntu> i need help
[06:11] <BanTam> you might wanna check for updatres too
[06:11] <Lynoure> beener: you are welcome
[06:11] <Lynoure> ubuntu: just ask your question and probably someone on the channel will help you
[06:11] <BanTam> not to get off topic but did anyone see the picture of john gotti before he died?
[06:11] <BanTam> OMG
[06:12] <Lynoure> If that's not off topic, I don't know what is :)
[06:12] <BanTam> lol
[06:12] <BanTam> i said it was..lol
[06:13] <Lynoure> BanTam: oh, I'm not native speaker of English, so "not to get off topic" sounded more like claiming it would not get things offtopic
[06:13] <konner> how do i check for updates with kubuntu
[06:13] <konner> x]
[06:13] <BanTam> oh im sorry
[06:13] <konner> im not familiar with the KDE
[06:13] <konner> but its so sexy
[06:13] <BanTam> well i use the terminal
[06:13] <konner> what do i type
[06:13] <Lynoure> konner: either with adept somehow, or   sudo apt-get update   from commandline
[06:13] <BanTam> sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:14] <BanTam> i dont use adept for u pdates i have nothing but probs with it
[06:14] <BanTam> it gives me errors halfway through the upgrade
[06:14] <BanTam> type 1st: sudo apt-get update
[06:14] <konner> Nope aparently no updates
[06:14] <BanTam> then: sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:14] <konner> when i start the computer it says its up-to-date
[06:14] <BanTam> well then your in good shape
[06:14] <konner> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:15] <konner> is that good
[06:15] <BanTam> yes
[06:15] <konner> ok
[06:15] <konner> ^_^
[06:15] <BanTam> unless you want the latest upgrades to kde
[06:16] <BanTam> then you gotta add a repository
[06:16] <BanTam> every time i see repository i think of suppositories
[06:16] <BanTam> lol
[06:16] <konner> lmao now i cant install wine
[06:16] <BanTam> ?
[06:17] <konner> it says
[06:17] <BanTam> why not?
[06:17] <BanTam> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:17] <konner> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:17] <konner> wine: Depends: binfmt-support (>= 1.1.2) but it is not installable
[06:17] <konner> E: Broken packages
[06:17] <konner> =/
[06:17] <konner> And i downloaded that package
[06:18] <konner> and  Gdebi just quits
[06:18] <BanTam> try this in terminal
[06:18] <konner> k\
[06:18] <konner> k
[06:18] <BanTam> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:19] <konner> did nothing
[06:19] <BanTam> you have synaptic ?
[06:19] <konner> uhh
[06:19] <konner> whats that
[06:19] <konner> :S
[06:19] <Lynoure> konner: that's like Adept, but for Gnome
[06:19] <BanTam> package manager
[06:20] <BanTam> youe in KDE right?
[06:20] <BanTam> your
[06:20] <konner> yeah
[06:20] <konner> KDE
[06:20] <BanTam> o go into the kmenu then into system
[06:20] <konner> k
[06:20] <BanTam> see if you got synaptic  package manage r in there
[06:20] <konner> no
[06:21] <konner> i have Adept Manager
[06:21] <BanTam> k
[06:21] <BanTam> you might be better off using automatix
[06:21] <konner> whats that
[06:21] <Lynoure> konner: sudo apt-get -f install   sometimes fixes such problems
[06:21] <intelikey> !automatix
[06:21] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:21] <Lynoure> !automatix
[06:22] <Lynoure> intelikey: :)
[06:22] <intelikey> sorry Lynoure didn't notice you were here.
[06:22] <BanTam> ok forget i mentioned that
[06:22] <BanTam> lol
[06:22] <Lynoure> intelikey: you got it first, anyway, no need to wait for me :)
[06:22] <BanTam> thanks
[06:22] <konner> go there>
[06:23] <konner> aww i dont feel like reading that
[06:23] <konner> >.<
[06:23] <BanTam> lol
[06:23] <konner> Im tired
[06:24] <BanTam> i haer ya
[06:24] <konner> like like 1 AM here
[06:24] <BanTam> same here
[06:24] <BanTam> im in NY
[06:24] <konner> Im in Oklahoma
[06:25] <konner> lmao i need to set my clock on here
[06:25] <konner> it keeps saying 22:00
[06:25] <konner> i need central time
[06:25] <konner> x]
[06:25] <intelikey> linux is not good for hardware clocks.
[06:25] <konner> neither is my windows XP its always a hour ahead
[06:25] <konner> xD
[06:26] <BanTam> lol
[06:26] <konner> I had to reinstall everything like 5 times yesterday
[06:26] <nick77>  umount /dev/hdd1
[06:26] <nick77> umount: /media/hdd1: device is busy
[06:26] <nick77> umount: /media/hdd1: device is busy
[06:26] <nick77> help?
[06:26] <konner> i found out i cant resize a linux partition without messing it up
[06:27] <BanTam> !envy
[06:27] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[06:27] <mkquist> konner: was it ur system partition?
[06:27] <intelikey> nick77 so close the windows that are pointing to it.  and right click the icon on the desktop and tell it to umount
[06:27] <konner> Yeah the first time i installed Ubuntu it gave me only 7 GB and i tried resizing it
[06:28] <nick77> it was amarok.......... i closed it thanks
[06:28] <kaminix> Hmm... the new kaffeine package is not compatible with the old kaffeine-xine package in repos. When I run aptitude full-upgrade it wants to remove kaffeine and kaffenie-xine, then when I reinstall kaffeine and then kaffeine-xine they get removed again.
[06:28] <konner> this is funny
[06:28] <mkquist> konner: yeah that can be a problem
[06:28] <konner> whats with kubuntu and everything with a K
[06:28] <intelikey> !kde
[06:28] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[06:28] <konner> my name is spelt with a K
[06:29] <mkquist> konner: nothing funny, it just idenifies it from like gome... or xubuntu.. simple really
[06:29] <intelikey> kde = the K Desktop Environment
[06:30] <konner> I still need some help installing Wine
[06:30] <konner> :S
[06:30] <intelikey> konner sudo apt-get install wine
[06:30] <konner> I did that
[06:30] <konner> it says i need binfmt-support
[06:30] <konner> i downloaded te package
[06:31] <konner> and Gdebi just quits
[06:31] <BanTam> did you try sudo apt-get install wine ?
[06:31] <intelikey> konner sudo apt-get -f install
[06:31] <konner> I did that too
[06:31] <intelikey> what did it say ?
[06:32] <intelikey> !pastebin
[06:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <prince_jammys> !wine | konner
[06:32] <ubotu> konner: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:35] <konner> hmm
[06:37] <konner> How do i install .deb packages on kubuntu
[06:37] <konner> the Gdebi doesnt work well
[06:38] <prince_jammys> konner: sudo dpkg -i packg_name.deb
[06:38] <intelikey> prince_jammys no.
[06:39] <intelikey> apt-get if possable.
[06:39] <konner> wow
[06:39] <konner> thats what i neded
[06:39] <konner> now wine is downloading
[06:39] <konner> =]
[06:39] <intelikey> i.e. using things not in the repos will cause problems later on.
[06:39] <prince_jammys> intelikey: is that not how one installs deb files?
[06:40] <konner> it worked fine for me
[06:40] <konner> now wine works
[06:40] <intelikey> prince_jammys yes.  only meant that you should sujest trying apt.  didn't mean it as a rebuke.    sorry it came accross that way
[06:40] <prince_jammys> i already directed him to the link that goes through apt
[06:40] <prince_jammys> it's right up there
[06:40] <konner> Now my windows products will work
[06:41] <konner> <3
[06:41] <prince_jammys> konner: intelikey is right - installing through apt is ideal and preferred
[06:41] <prince_jammys> !3rdparty
[06:41] <ubotu> Packages contained in 3rd party repositories are not included in Ubuntu for a reason. Whether this be poor packaging standards, bugs or malicious authors. You should trust the maintainers of these repositories before using them. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297814 for consequences.
[06:42] <prince_jammys> in this case, you should be fine, but going through repositories is always preferable
[06:42] <intelikey> yes and wine is very well supported in the repos
[06:43] <konner> I download .deb packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[06:43] <prince_jammys> that's ok, but unnecessary
[06:43] <konner> THeres a easyer way to do it?
[06:43] <prince_jammys> !apt
[06:43] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:44] <prince_jammys> using apt-geyt
[06:44] <prince_jammys> get
[06:44] <konner> Oh ok
[06:44] <konner> =]
[06:44] <prince_jammys> eg sudo apt-get install yakuake
[06:44] <konner> Might be fast too.
[06:44] <konner> Is there a way to get Windows Live Messenger on linux?
[06:44] <prince_jammys> deals with dependencies, downloads and installs
[06:44] <konner> I dont like the msn clones it has
[06:45] <konner> it doesnt connect directly to the windows live network
[06:45] <prince_jammys> this i don't know about
[06:45] <konner> crap =/
[06:45] <prince_jammys> konner: try using "adept":: it's a gui front-end for apt
[06:46] <prince_jammys> konner: there you can search for software by keyword
[06:46] <prince_jammys> thousands of packages
[06:47] <prince_jammys> the command line version is:  apt-cache search keywords
[06:47] <prince_jammys> and once you see a package you like:  sudo apt-get install packg_name
[06:47] <prince_jammys> to remove: sudo apt-get remove packg_name
[06:48] <prince_jammys> to update the list from the repositories: sudo apt-get update
[06:48] <prince_jammys> :)
[06:48] <prince_jammys> but you can do all this from gui using "adept" in your system meny
[06:48] <prince_jammys> u
[06:49] <konner> Hmm
[06:49] <konner> I cant find a msn clone or anything
[06:49] <konner> =/
[06:49] <jussi01> konner: kmess
[06:49] <prince_jammys> !info kmess
[06:49] <ubotu> kmess (source: kmess): Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2652 kB
[06:50] <prince_jammys> konner: see where it says "component universe"?
[06:50] <intelikey> !amsn
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <intelikey> !find amsn
[06:50] <ubotu> Found: amsn
[06:50] <jussi01> !info amsn
[06:50] <ubotu> amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[06:50] <intelikey> there was an infonode on that.  but obviously it "was"
[06:50] <prince_jammys> konner: there are several repositories, main, universe, multiverse, etc.
[06:51] <jussi01> !repo
[06:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[06:51] <prince_jammys> konner: if you don't have for example "universe" enabled, you can also do that from Adept
[06:52] <prince_jammys> and you'll be able to install packages from that repository (aka repo)
[06:53] <konner> im figureing out wine.
[06:53] <intelikey> example of an /etc/apt/sources.list file http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=dbe517a
[06:54] <intelikey> note it's for the LTS not for the latest.  but only the key word is different.
[07:01] <intelikey> http://tinyurl.com/ysx2kj heh.
[07:02] <BanTam> i need to find out how to get MergedFB working
[07:03] <BanTam> its driving me crazy
[07:03] <BanTam> !mergedfb
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mergedfb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <soontak> good day guys, i would like to know regarding usb gsm modem, do i need to install and module for my linux kernel ?
[07:06] <jussi01> soontak: you would need to give more info, such as make and model etc
[07:08] <soontak> make and model ?
[07:09] <r240> trying to install restricted package...do i want sun java?
[07:09] <intelikey> !java | r240
[07:09] <ubotu> r240: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:09] <soontak> because currently i'm using a gsm modem with my kubuntu, i heard somebody did mention that i need to load a module for my kernel 1st
[07:10] <soontak> i'm wondering which kermel module that i need to load
[07:10] <soontak> or somebody have a better guide on this ?
[07:16] <BanTam> hmm interesting, no wonder i couldnt get mergedFB working its no longer supported in 7.10 they now use Xrandr
[07:16] <BanTam> ill be a SOB
[07:16] <BanTam> allthem hours wasted
[07:17] <BanTam> looks like thats tomorrows project
[07:17] <BanTam> :)
[07:17] <intelikey> "hours wasted" ?     a novel concept.
[07:18] <BanTam> well yeah, all for nothing
[07:18] <BanTam> like a dog chasing its tail
[07:18] <BanTam> lol never going to get anywhere
[07:18] <intelikey> all is vanity!
[07:19] <BanTam> well either way i wasted my time..lol
[07:19] <intelikey> :)
[07:19] <BanTam> lol
[07:19] <BanTam> well at least i learned something
[07:20] <BanTam> 2 things actually
[07:20] <BanTam> i learned i cant use mergedfb and i learned i wasted my time as well as others
[07:20] <intelikey> which along with a buck two ninty five will purchase you a soda pop at the local convienance store.
[07:21] <BanTam> exactly!
[07:21] <BanTam> ;)
[07:22] <ere4si> a buck two ninty five is funny money :)
[07:22] <intelikey> ... and provoke delightful conversation about nothing.      as well.
[07:22] <BanTam> hahaha
[07:22] <intelikey> ere4si only on that side of the border
[07:22] <ere4si> hehe
[07:25] <intelikey> did you guys read that blog i posted ?
[07:40] <ere4si> intelikey, :)
[07:40] <ere4si> all irc suffer the same
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> i'd say...  a 50/50 mixed with a little Playlist -_-
[07:41] <nick77> what is the blog?
[07:44] <intelikey> http://tinyurl.com/ysx2kj      sorry repost.
[07:45] <intelikey> ere4si pretty much   yes.   it's the "human factor"
[07:46] <ere4si> intelikey, everyone was a virgin once :)
[07:46]  * intelikey wonders...
[07:54] <Roy_M> Hi, I built some kernel modules one machine (an emulated image) and am trying to put them on another machine (a real embedded machine). However, when I do my modprobe command that inserts them, I get errors. I am starting to think that the images are not identical. See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57559/ for the output of "uname -a". Is it s big deal that one is i686 and the other is i586?
[07:56] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, and this is probably not the place.  try ##linux
[07:56] <intelikey> or #kernel
[07:56] <intelikey> but yes the arch is important in "many" cases.
[07:58] <Roy_M> sure, thanks intelikey and Daisuke_Ido
[08:05] <psilocyde> hello folks
[08:05] <psilocyde> need help with adept package manager
[08:06] <psilocyde> it keeps trying to download open office core
[08:06] <psilocyde> and it locks adept durring install
[08:06] <intelikey> !adeptcrash | psilocyde
[08:06] <ubotu> psilocyde: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:07] <psilocyde> ty will try
[08:07] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[08:07] <intelikey> command line way to make sure you are "up2date"
[08:08] <psilocyde> ic ty so which to try first?
[08:08] <psilocyde> uboto's or yours
[08:09] <intelikey> order is not important, except depending on the cause of your issue.    so try one.  if it fails try the other.
[08:09] <psilocyde> ok
[08:09] <intelikey> !bot | psilocyde
[08:09] <ubotu> psilocyde: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:10] <intelikey> !all-knowing hehhe,  how comical.
[08:10] <intelikey> !all-knowing
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about all-knowing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <intelikey> !anything
[08:11] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[08:12] <psilocyde> on your rec i didsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade and i got  E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> remove the install from that command
[08:12] <psilocyde> k
[08:12] <intelikey> did i type "install"   heh  oops
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: you've gotten your one mistake for the year, better shape up!
[08:13] <psilocyde> lol
[08:13] <intelikey> sorry   it was a typo
[08:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and gnight everyone
[08:13] <psilocyde> night
[08:13] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido sure insult me an leave   ;/
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i was only teasing you!
[08:14] <intelikey> there seems to be an .* discrepancy between my /dev/brain and my /dev/stdin
[08:15] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido i       know       that     !         can't you take what ya dish out?   :)
[08:15] <Daisuke_Ido> well, it could be the time of day.  the daily maintenance cron jobs haven't kicked in yet have they?
[08:16] <intelikey> mine ?    heh.  no.
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> same
[08:16] <intelikey> k   good[:localtime:]
[08:17] <jussi01> Hmmm, does anyone know how to create a mirror effect for a picture(read:icon)?
[08:18] <psilocyde> oh! i got another one
[08:18] <psilocyde> my fonts are HUGE when i log on
[08:20] <psilocyde> so much so that it makes them unreadable the log on screen unusable
[08:20] <psilocyde> i just sort of wing it and type my pass blinde
[08:21] <psilocyde> ok i got something back from the console
[08:22] <psilocyde> Preconfiguring packages ...
[08:22] <psilocyde> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[08:23] <intelikey> psilocyde you need to find the error that caused that.   it will be above it somewhere
[08:25] <psilocyde> Fetched 67.1MB in 3m30s (318kB/s)
[08:25] <psilocyde> Preconfiguring packages ...
[08:25] <psilocyde> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[08:28] <psilocyde> full copy of my console @ http://pastebin.com/m4f7ad2c7
[08:29] <intelikey> ok    sudo apt-get install -f
[08:29] <intelikey> pastebin if it errors
[08:29] <psilocyde> ok ty
[08:34] <psilocyde> it looks too be just giving me a list of apt commands http://pastebin.com/m517bffd7
[08:35] <jussi01> Hmmm, my alt-tabis switching desktops, not apps, any idea on how to fix it?
[08:36] <apparle> hi
[08:36] <apparle> llutz: are you there??
[08:36] <llutz> apparle: ?
[08:36] <apparle> llutz: How to configure LIRC
[08:37] <apparle> llutz: ??
[08:38] <intelikey> psilocyde umm   if i add an "install" then it's ok to remove it.   but when it actually belongs there.....    ummm     PUT IT BACK!    :)
 ok    sudo apt-get install -f
 pastebin if it errors
 ok ty
[08:38] <llutz> apparle: have you installed lirc and attached a recevier?
[08:38] <psilocyde> wait
[08:39] <apparle> llutz: Yes
[08:39] <intelikey> yeah.  your pastebin pointed out that error.   "    1. psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo apt-get -f
[08:39] <llutz> apparle: kernel-module is loaded?
[08:40] <apparle> llutz: what is that
[08:40] <apparle> llutz: I installed .deb package
[08:40] <llutz> apparle: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy?highlight=(lirc)%7C(gutsy)#head-710472bedfd1154d9c9873ca6a20cc3e8a550699
[08:41] <llutz> apparle: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy
[08:45] <apparle> llutz: While installing I by mistake selected "None", I tried to reinstall it but could not get te dialog box again
[08:45] <noaXess> i want upload any file over a sh script.. over ftp... what to use for this?
[08:47] <apparle> llutz: ??
[08:50] <intelikey> psilocyde how goes the war ?
[08:50] <psilocyde> oy
[08:50] <psilocyde> err well
[08:51] <llutz> apparle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc
[08:51] <intelikey> psilocyde:   tre bien?    tre mal?
[08:51] <psilocyde> it just stops at the commiting changes
[08:51] <intelikey> show me the last line
[08:52] <llutz> apparle: and plz stop your "??", i'll answer sooner or later
[08:52] <psilocyde> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[08:53] <apparle> llutz: I am sorry.  :(  Actually I am anxious to get it work Sorry!!
[08:53] <intelikey> psilocyde   sudo dpkg --configure -a > ~/error 2>&1                    then pastebin the content of ~/error
[08:53] <apparle> llutz: What should d to get the GUI frontend in KDE. What command??
[08:54] <intelikey> it's very unusual for dpkg/apt to be this secretive about why it's having issues...
[08:54] <llutz> apparle: use search in adept, kdelirc sounds nice
[08:54] <psilocyde> could this line "40 not fully installed or removed." have anything to do with it?
[08:54] <intelikey> no not really
[08:54] <psilocyde> oh
[08:54] <intelikey> psilocyde we need to find the cause of that.   then that will work it's self out
[08:55] <psilocyde> oh
[08:55] <apparle> llutz: No I mean to say that what command should I use to get the "Choose Remote" as stated in thepage you told me?
[08:55] <llutz> apparle: depends on your receiver-hardware
[08:56] <apparle> llutz: I will talk to in 5 minutes. Connection will be reset
[08:56] <intelikey> i'm thinking that it "may" have something to do with a "back-ported package"  but as of right now that's only speculation.
[08:57] <intelikey> i have seen backports muddy the water before.
[08:57] <psilocyde> ok
[08:57] <psilocyde> lets fix it
[08:57] <psilocyde> lol
[08:58] <intelikey> psilocyde   sudo dpkg --configure -a > ~/error 2>&1                    then pastebin the content of ~/error
[08:58] <psilocyde> k
[09:01] <psilocyde> the console is taking a long time to respond respond with that command
[09:01] <intelikey> if it seems to have stopped for a long time "in seconds 50 or 60" focus on the terminal and type enter a few times.
[09:01] <psilocyde> ok no need to pastbin
[09:01] <psilocyde> i get     Bus error (core dumped)
[09:02] <intelikey> oh that's cute.
[09:02] <psilocyde> what
[09:02] <intelikey> is the terminal still active ?
[09:02] <psilocyde> ya
[09:02] <intelikey> has it returned to the prompt ?
[09:02] <psilocyde> yep
[09:03] <intelikey> and cat ~/error   only contains the coredump message ?
[09:03] <psilocyde> yes
[09:03] <intelikey> adept is not open is it ?
[09:03] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a > ~/error 2>&1
[09:03] <psilocyde> Bus error (core dumped)
[09:03] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$
[09:03] <psilocyde> no
[09:04] <intelikey> psilocyde yes but look in the file       ~/error       just to make sure we didn't trap an error message in it.
[09:04] <psilocyde> how?
[09:04] <intelikey> cat ~/error
[09:04] <psilocyde> oh ok
[09:06] <psilocyde> im sorry, where do i find this cat ~/error file?
[09:06] <psilocyde> verry new to all this linux deal
[09:06] <intelikey> or navigate to your home dir and click on error        the tild expands to the users home.
[09:07] <intelikey> but simply typing in       cat ~/error        should have displaied
[09:07] <apparle> llutz: Tell me the command
[09:07]  * intelikey ponders the "bus error"
[09:07] <llutz> apparle: read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=704005 and use google for more info
[09:08] <psilocyde> well i got nothing from the terminal, what do i use to open the file in the hom dir?
[09:09] <intelikey> any text editor or the konqueror builtin viewer
[09:10] <intelikey> but no need if it's empty.
[09:11] <psilocyde> empty
[09:11] <psilocyde> yes its empty
[09:12] <psilocyde> would a bad sector do that?
[09:12] <apparle> llutz: Just tell me which remote to select in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy while installation, I wanna use homebrew serial IR receiver with TSOP1738. Please help. I understand thatyou are busy but please!! :)
[09:13] <intelikey> psilocyde you mean fs corruption?  it might.     do a#      dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii' > ~/error ;cat /etc/apt/sources.list                # and pastebin   ~/error for me.   lets see if i can find anything there that might help.
[09:13] <intelikey> sorry.
[09:13] <intelikey> dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii' > ~/error ;cat /etc/apt/sources.list >> ~/error
[09:14] <intelikey> don't think i only make one mistake per-year as signified by Daisuke_Ido  ;/
[09:16] <psilocyde> ok
[09:17] <psilocyde> http://pastebin.com/m4a1c5b00
[09:18] <intelikey> did dpkg core dump again ?
[09:19] <llutz> apparle: i don't use lirc on a desktop pc. i just load lirc_serial and it works, but that is a special system
[09:19] <intelikey> or did you only put one > on the cat command ?
[09:19] <psilocyde> sec sorry
[09:20] <apparle> Anyone else here who uses LIRC
[09:21]  * intelikey bx exclusively apparle 
[09:24] <apparle> intelikey: What did you say?
[09:24] <intelikey> said no not me.
[09:26] <apparle> what is bx
[09:27] <psilocyde> http://pastebin.com/m2f7cb3ac
[09:28] <intelikey> apparle bitchX
[09:28] <intelikey> !info bitchx
[09:28] <ubotu> bitchx (source: ircii-pana): Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1515 kB, installed size 6524 kB
[09:30] <psilocyde> well i got to go to bed
[09:30] <intelikey> psilocyde hmmmm    one more time       sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:30] <intelikey> if it core dumps or errors out just say which
[09:30] <psilocyde> k
[09:31] <psilocyde> Bus error (core dumpe
[09:31] <psilocyde> ed)
[09:31] <psilocyde> sigh
[09:31] <intelikey> hmmm ok.   that does look kinda like an hard drive problem.
[09:31] <psilocyde> oh ya
[09:31] <psilocyde> damnit anyway
[09:31] <psilocyde> lol
[09:31] <psilocyde> ok
[09:31] <intelikey> i can't put my fingure on anything else that would be doing that.  but i'm sure that there  are probably othere things.
[09:32] <psilocyde> well ill run spinright on it while i sleep
[09:32] <psilocyde> thanks for the help man
[09:32] <intelikey> psilocyde maybe when you do that it will find what's bugging you.     welcome.
[09:32] <psilocyde> hope so
[09:32] <psilocyde> night
[09:32] <intelikey> shalom
[09:33] <flipstar> which packages do i need to print ?
[09:33] <intelikey> cupsys     should pull in all you need
[09:33] <flipstar> i just installed cupsys, cupsys-driver-gutenprint but  still nothing..
[09:34] <intelikey> can't setup the printer ?
[09:34] <flipstar> it is set up with system-config-printer but wont print
[09:34] <Aloha> how do i set konqueror as default file manager? dolphin sucks
[09:35] <apparle> someone please help with LIRC
[09:35] <flipstar> !dolphin > Aloha
[09:35] <intelikey> flipstar use the printer admin tool and make sure it's not paused.
[09:35] <Aloha> flipstar: thnx
[09:35] <flipstar> printer admin tool..?
[09:35] <shanky> hi, good morning
[09:35] <intelikey> yeah should be in the kmenu system settings
[09:36] <shanky> I have kubuntu installed in a macbook
[09:36] <stunatra> Aloha, ALT+F2: kcontrol, Go to File Associations. Under inode, select "directory" and move Konqueror to the top of the list.
[09:36] <shanky> everything works fine but the external monitor
[09:36] <flipstar> intelikey: you mean gnome-cups-manager ?
[09:37] <intelikey> flipstar actually no.  but that should work.
[09:37] <Aloha> that was easier than i thought it was going to be
[09:37]  * Aloha loves KDE
[09:37] <Aloha> except for kde4... thats not kde... thats a monster
[09:37] <intelikey> :)
[09:37] <intelikey> "we have created a monster!"
[09:37] <intelikey> :)))
[09:38] <flipstar> no..it also wont print a test page ..
[09:38] <shanky> well I can get it working with my tft, but not with a digital projecto
[09:38] <Aloha> its like the devs were like "wow kde is really cool... lets butcher it"
[09:38] <intelikey> flipstar usb connection ?
[09:38] <flipstar> yes
[09:38] <intelikey> flipstar lsusb   make sure it recognized
[09:38] <shanky> projector
[09:39] <flipstar> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer
[09:39] <shanky> is there a good tool to try the external vga connection to work?
[09:39] <intelikey> flipstar what version of *buntu ?
[09:39] <flipstar> ehm hardy ..
[09:39] <intelikey> ;/
[09:40] <flipstar> i thing i need some packages..i installed via debootstrap..
[09:40]  * intelikey points at the hardy channel   --->
[09:40] <intelikey> go to your room! :|
[09:40] <intelikey> !hardy
[09:40] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:44] <s2a> i have KDEnlive on gutsy ubuntu...how do i use it to make a menu? i want a video to keep restarting in that menu and i alredy loaded that video in KDEnlive
[09:44] <Aloha> how do i open a file with a random extension, e.g. .foobar that is text to open in konqueror?
[09:46] <Agent_bob> right click ?
[09:47] <shanky> !xinerama
[09:47] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[09:48] <Agent_bob> !res | shanky also of interest.
[09:48] <ubotu> shanky also of interest.: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:48] <shanky> Agent_bob: thanks
[09:48] <sarah> whats the equivalent of "restricted drivers manager" in kubuntu?
[09:49] <Agent_bob> !restricted
[09:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:49] <Agent_bob> not what you want.
[09:49] <Agent_bob> !nv
[09:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:50] <apparle> sarah: Restricted driver manager for kde is present in Gutsy, Do you have any ohter version?
[09:50] <sarah> not nvidia, wireless drivers
[09:50] <sarah> hoary
[09:50] <Agent_bob> !wifi
[09:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:50] <Agent_bob> hoary ?
[09:50] <Agent_bob> sarah  that's not even supported any mofe.
[09:50] <apparle> !hoary
[09:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) was the second release of Ubuntu.  End Of Life: October 31, 2006. See !eol for more details.
[09:50] <Agent_bob> more
[09:51] <sarah> 7.10 sorry
[09:51] <sarah> dont remember the name =p
[09:51] <Agent_bob> !gutsy
[09:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[09:51] <apparle> sarah: It is pre installed in gutsy
[09:51] <sarah> i see!
[09:52] <Agent_bob> !wifi | sarah other docs here might help too
[09:52] <ubotu> sarah other docs here might help too: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:52] <sarah> thx
[09:53] <apparle> some one help me with LIRC, I am unable to make neither head ofr tail of it
[09:54] <pushax> what package is display & monitor control panel part in?  anyone know?
[09:55] <apparle> pushax: what do you wanna control or modify
[09:55] <sarah> how would i do step 6 in offline installation?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[09:55] <pushax> apparle: I've got a problem with my monitor section. It comes in error and therefor eI can't change the settings using gui
[09:56] <pushax> apparle: I want to try reinstalling the package to see if it clears the issue
[09:56] <apparle> sarah: It is clearly stated
[09:57] <apparle> pushax: do you have any special drivers installed like ATI
[09:57] <pushax> apparle: nope.  but I want to adjust my monitor to suit lcd
[09:58] <pushax> arr I might try ti installl the ati driver and see if that fixes it.
[09:59] <apparle> pushax: but you need a ATI graphics card to install it  :D
[09:59] <apparle> sarah: Did you find it?
[10:00] <pushax> apparle: yep got a radeon but it didn't detect properly and is listd as fire gl
[10:00] <pushax> brb
[10:00] <pushax> apparle: thx for help
[10:01] <apparle> pushax: You installed fglrx drivers
[10:01] <sarah> apparle: ya thx
[10:01] <apparle> !ati
[10:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:01] <apparle> sarah: where are you from
[10:01] <sarah> would using a 32 bit OS give me a big performance hit?
[10:01] <sarah> co usa
[10:02] <jhend60> Hello everyone
[10:02] <jhend60> I need desperate help. THe full description of my urgent problem is here. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/196065
[10:02] <apparle> sarah: what do you mean bu performance hit?
[10:03]  * jhend60 SCREAMS Help PLEASE!
[10:04] <sarah> what would be the disadvantages of using normal kubuntu istead of 64 bit kubuntu? (i have amd64 processor)
[10:04] <jussi01> !patience | jhend60
[10:04] <ubotu> jhend60: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:04] <jhend60> :(
[10:04] <jhend60> I have waited almost 2 months
[10:05] <jhend60> to get an answer to this remember
[10:05] <apparle> jhend60: I am unable to open your link
[10:05] <jhend60> its on my screen...
[10:05] <jhend60> U sure... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/196065
[10:05] <jussi01> jhend60: the changes in the live cd are not persistant, to get persidtant changes you need to install
[10:05] <jhend60> i know but i just cant without X working as im not that pro
[10:06] <sarah> jhend60: when you boot from the cd hit f6, and change splash to nosplash
[10:06] <sarah> worked for me =p
[10:06] <flipstar> problem solved
[10:06] <Gary> jhend60, a live cd really requires more than 512 mb of ram
[10:06] <jhend60> yes well it shoudl bork anyways
[10:06] <jhend60> *work
[10:06] <apparle> jhend60: I am using my PC without sound for about 8 months and not acting like crazy
[10:07] <jussi01> apparle: curiosity q, which sound card?
[10:07] <Aloha> apparle: i got no sound either, i have an isa card that stopped working with gutsy :)
[10:08] <jhend60> ok then. my graphics has a page for linux and has some info. could some1 have a look at it as i dont reallyunderstand how it affects me
[10:08] <jhend60> http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intel810/sb/cs-009118.htm#POS15
[10:08] <apparle> I have ATI SB450
[10:08] <jussi01> apparle: can you pastebin the output of lspci for me?
[10:09] <jhend60> i need to download the driver, but I Cant install so it isnt permanent ( i need to reboot to make changes )
[10:10] <jhend60> as i cant install through the live cd ( x doesnt run) so i cant install and make changes
[10:10] <Aloha> jussi01: http://pastebin.com/m217746eb
[10:10] <jhend60> I have tried to get the alternate but it wasnt for kubuntu only ubuntu
[10:11] <apparle> jussi01: I have too many number of problems> No net at home,Not working sound card, ATI card. Right now I am on a different PC. Will bring it tomorrow.
[10:12] <jussi01> apparle: sure
[10:12] <jussi01> Aloha: ummm, ??? where are you running that?
[10:13] <jhend60> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/196065
[10:13] <jhend60> plz help
[10:13] <Aloha> jussi01: i have a Ruby shell heh ;)
[10:13] <jussi01> !repeat | jhend60
[10:13] <ubotu> jhend60: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:13] <jhend60> please dont use uboto
[10:13] <jussi01> Aloha: please run it in a bash shell
[10:13] <jhend60> ubotu
[10:13] <jhend60> it annoys me alot
[10:13] <Aloha> jussi01: heh i was just playing around
[10:13] <jussi01> !guidelines > jhend60:
[10:13] <jhend60> !guidelines
[10:13] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:14] <jussi01> jhend60: you should have got that as a pm
[10:14] <Aloha> jussi01: `lspci` works though ;)
[10:14] <jhend60> right...
[10:14] <jhend60> im not sure linux is just worth the trouble im having
[10:14] <jussi01> Aloha: could you pastebin the output of that for me?
[10:15] <Aloha> Aloha: why?
[10:15] <jussi01> Aloha: you mentioned you didnt have sound.
[10:16] <Agent_bob> jhend60 it's not worth the trouble.    just use osX and forget it
[10:16] <Aloha> jussi01: yeah because i have an isa card that doesn't want to work. lspci doesn't even see it
[10:16] <jhend60> i dont have osx
[10:16] <jhend60> no where near enough money
[10:16] <jhend60> im just really really sick of windows
[10:16] <jussi01> Aloha: got you ;)
[10:17] <Agent_bob> jhend60 did you try the boot opetion vga=normal nosplash      ?
[10:17] <jhend60> yes i have tried that
[10:17] <Agent_bob> did you try safe graphics mode ?
[10:17] <jussi01> jhend60: if you need an alternate cd, the kubuntu one is here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/
[10:18] <jhend60> i think i will try the alternate.
[10:18] <jhend60> i have already downloaded.
[10:18] <Agent_bob> jhend60 also are you trying the 32 or 64 bit disk ?
[10:18] <jhend60> 32 bit
[10:18] <jhend60> my pc is 32 bit
[10:18] <Agent_bob> how much ram ?
[10:18] <jhend60> 512 mb
[10:18] <jhend60> its stats are attatched to the bug report at
[10:19] <jhend60> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/196065
[10:19]  * squid0 is away: Gone away for now.
[10:20] <jhend60> and anyways, i prefer a GUI to text based, and what if it still wont work even after its installed!
[10:21] <jhend60> or is the alternate more of a windows xp boot isntall type thing that sorta looks like a gui but really basic
[10:21] <ZTeasA> lo peeps
[10:22] <jussi01> !away > squid0
[10:22] <jhend60> im sick of xp as every so often my explorer.exe crashes
[10:22] <jhend60> then loads again
[10:22] <jhend60> and i cant find a trace of any viruses
[10:23] <jhend60> and there are no similar things like this
[10:23] <jussi01> jhend60: this is not the place for windows help, please try ##windows for that
[10:23] <squid0> thanks, jussi01. I have changed my settings.
[10:23] <jhend60> i no
[10:23] <jussi01> squid0: :)
[10:23] <jhend60> sorry
[10:23] <squid0> :)
[10:23] <pushax> apparle: thx fixed it by installing radeo driver and using old xor.conf.  the new install in alpha 5 wasn't liked for some reason.
[10:24] <apparle> pushax: which ATI driver. Please tell
[10:24] <jhend60> :( Why is my problem never solved? Ill try going into kubuntu one last time
[10:24] <jussi01> jhend60: so you know how to fix it from the command line (tty), correct?
[10:24] <pushax> apparle repository xorg-server radeon driver
[10:24] <jhend60> by getting the updated package
[10:24] <pushax> apparle: repository xorg-server radeon driver
[10:25] <jhend60> such as what pushax just said
[10:25] <apparle> pushax: which hardware card
[10:25] <Agent_bob> jhend60 safe graphics mode boot
[10:25] <jhend60> still doesnt work
[10:25] <jhend60> ive tried safe grapchis
[10:25] <jussi01> jhend60: great, so install via the alternate disk I linked you to, it will take you to the tty, update the package and its working, voila :)
[10:25] <pushax> apparle: it still didn't work with the radeon driver as the xorg.xonf was faulty in hardy heron.  x700
[10:26] <jhend60> ok i will need to buy some cds just great...
[10:26] <apparle> tell me which card do you have ATI Radeon xxxx
[10:26] <jhend60> oh no
[10:26] <jhend60> i have some rewritable dvds
[10:26] <jhend60> thanks all
[10:26] <pushax> apparle: radeon x700
[10:26] <jhend60> ill be back some other time
[10:26] <jhend60> 15 mins
[10:26] <Agent_bob> thanks for the warning.
[10:27] <apparle> help with LIRC please someone
[10:28] <Agent_bob> !info lirc
[10:28] <ubotu> lirc (source: lirc): Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 353 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[10:28] <apparle> llutz: Are you there?
[10:30] <Sbucatone_> hello but zenity is for gnome and fo kde is there anotherone ?
[10:30] <jussi01> !info zenity
[10:30] <ubotu> zenity (source: zenity): Display graphical dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1738 kB, installed size 4196 kB
[10:31] <Agent_bob> apparle would http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=lirc%20howto&btnG=Search be of any use to you ?
[10:31] <apparle> Sbucatone_: I think Kdialog
[10:31] <danny_> Hey, I am trying to play an mp3 in amarok but i get a error message "No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported." Anyone knows what this is?
[10:31] <Agent_bob> !demux
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <Agent_bob> !mp3
[10:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:34] <apparle> Sbucatone_: Does Kdialog good for you or should I suggest anything else
[10:36] <remedialjoe_> where are all the screensavers?  :(
[10:37] <remedialjoe_> i searched in add/remove.. and the ones from the gnome suite apparently don't work in kde anymore? :(  any suggestions
[10:37] <t30_> hello
[10:37] <apparle> remedialjoe: Do you want to install new Screensavers or configure what are already installed
[10:38] <remedialjoe_> apparle: install new ones ..  nice 3d animations etc .. i have nvidia drivers installed etc.. the default opengl screensavers work..
[10:38] <pushax> should python py files be executable attribute?  can someone check if wine has all there py files exec on?  in /var/lib/python-support/python2.5
[10:39] <pushax> please
[10:39] <remedialjoe_> pushax:  i don't quite understand
[10:39] <remedialjoe_> i downloaded a python wifi applet and the .py just ran
[10:40] <pushax> remedialjoe_: in /var/lib/python-support/python2.5 there are filename.py 's  do you have wine poython files that all have their executable stutus on?  I noticed some of mine aren't and I'm having problems with Wine.
[10:40] <remedialjoe_> pushax: what's the ls flag
[10:40] <remedialjoe_> which ls flag
[10:41] <remedialjoe_> will tell me the attributes
[10:41] <pushax> remedialjoe_: only onw wine.py file is marked with x.  they rest are rw
[10:42] <remedialjoe_> yah i get what you are saying but when i type ls it just says filenames.. i need the switch for showing attributes/etc
[10:42] <pushax> remedialjoe_: wineconfig.py is the one with x.
[10:43] <remedialjoe_> you aren't getting what i am saying
[10:43] <apparle> LIRC please help
[10:43] <remedialjoe_> when i type "ls" in that directory.. it's not giving me the flag
[10:43] <remedialjoe_> s
[10:44] <llutz> remedialjoe ls -l
[10:44] <remedialjoe_> ty llutz
[10:44] <remedialjoe_> pushax lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     52 Feb 25 21:37 wineconfig.py -> /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/wineconfig.py
[10:45] <pushax> remedialjoe_:  thx.  is your lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     56 2008-02-27 00:46 winewrite.py -> /usr/share/python-support/guidance-backends/winewrite.py
[10:45] <remedialjoe_> yes and winewrite
[10:46] <remedialjoe_> er read*
[10:46] <pushax> remedialjoe_: how about -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  17046 2008-02-27 00:45 winewrite.pyc
[10:46] <remedialjoe_> the pyc's are different .. all -rw-r--r--
[10:46] <remedialjoe_> with a 1 yah
[10:46] <remedialjoe_> just like that
[10:47] <remedialjoe_> looks like you are good
[10:47] <pushax> remedialjoe_: arr ok. thx.  readin in cli is much better. I was not seeing th atributes properly in Krusader
[10:47] <remedialjoe_> np
[10:48] <pushax> remedialjoe_: I wish ubuntu has a ftp of the default install, so people could inspect the default files and their modes.
[10:48] <remedialjoe_> remotely?  just ssh in and ls -l like llutz said
[10:49] <lupul> hi there. can i somehow install kde4 desktop effects in kde3? without compiz or beryl
[10:49] <remedialjoe_> well he said the ls -l part
[10:50] <pushax> remedialjoe_: it's a wish that they had a ftp site that stored a default install for those that want to see the setting as they originally stand
[10:50] <remedialjoe_> pushax:  or you mean via gui .. and see it line by line?
[10:50] <remedialjoe_> ohh
[10:50] <remedialjoe_> well you could always run it inside virtualbox
[10:51] <pushax> brb. thx for help
[10:51] <remedialjoe_> i hear you tho
[10:51] <remedialjoe_> np gl
[10:51] <remedialjoe_> bedtime for bonzo.. will try to add neato krad screensavers tomorrow
[11:00] <apparle> anone help mw with lirc
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:09] <apparle> ActionParsnip: know anything about LIRC??
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> apparle, let me google. rings a bell
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> apparle, I know of it but never used it
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> wassup?
[11:10]  * pushax is away: Gone away for now.
[11:11] <apparle> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709159 See this
[11:11] <apparle> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709159 help
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> apparle, what remote do you have?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> apparle, and what are your options?
[11:16] <ali3n51> hello,  how to change bootsplash
[11:16] <ali3n51> any program to change bootsplash
[11:16] <TimeTraveller> I have a problem, i can log in with my user/pass but when i want to do a sudo it wont accept my password
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !bootsplash | ali3n51
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <ali3n51> bootsplash is the same to bootscreen like windows
[11:17] <ere4si> !usplash | ali3n51
[11:17] <ubotu> ali3n51: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> ali3n51, did you even google for the answer? http://jayant7k.blogspot.com/2007/06/change-boot-splash-screen-ubuntu.html
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> TimeTraveller, are you a member of adm?
[11:19] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I cannot tell you right now as I am outside on a different computer. I have the remote of Philips DVP5106K
[11:20] <TimeTraveller> ActionParsnip: probably not, i just installed this box
[11:20] <vr074816> ciao
[11:20] <vr074816> !addon
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <vr074816> !list
[11:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:21] <ere4si> vr074816, what are you chasing?
[11:21] <theTheme> Hey everyone.  I have a file storage question.  I have a 2gb flash card that I use in my digial camera and I have a rather large file I'd like to transfer to a mac computer.  When I try to mount it in kubuntu it says it doesn't recognize the file system (which is labeled as vfat) Is there anyway I can write to this card and still be able to format it back in my camera for later use?
[11:22] <ali3n51> kubuntu linux is compatible valhalla linux
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> theTheme, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/ may help
[11:24] <apparle> Is there a way to protect a USB drive
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> is google down?
[11:24] <ali3n51> what is the difference between bootsplash and splash scrern
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> apparle, how do you mean protect?
[11:25] <storbeck> bootsplash and usplash is the same thing.
[11:26] <apparle> make a secure section which can be accessed only after a password. If wrong passord, access or deletion of files not possible
[11:26] <theTheme> Thanks actionParsnip, I'll give that a try
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> apparle, you could make yourself the owner thennot give any other user access using chmod
[11:31] <flipstar> you could also encrypt it
[11:49] <amerigo> BUONGIORNO A TUTTI
[11:56] <harmental80> is there a newbie-proof of upgrading to hardy?
[11:57] <amerigo> SHOT THE QUESTUION BUDDY
[11:58] <jussi01> harmental80: go read the topic in #ubuntu+1 ;)
[11:59] <jussi01> !caps | amerigo
[11:59] <ubotu> amerigo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:59] <ere4si> !caps | amerigo
[11:59] <harmental80> jussi01: thx
[11:59] <amerigo> sorry... I care your ears...
[12:05] <storbeck> Ooh, a Time Traveler
[12:13] <Plantain> Forward Time Travellers to reception, Backward Time Travellers - you should know where to go.
[12:14] <storbeck> ActionParsnip: If you're having the same trouble in kubuntu as you are in #windows, install the win32codecs :)
[12:22] <Happy____> join #arduino
[12:24] <david_> does Envy come with Gutsy?
[12:25] <kai> Does any one know how you can change how amarok handles artists
[12:25] <flipstar> !envy | david_
[12:25] <ubotu> david_: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:26] <kai> I have a lot mix tapes under various artists, how can I change it so it sees it as the name of the DJ?
[12:29] <david_> great thanks
[12:29] <david_> no such file or directory
[12:30] <david_> ?
[12:30] <jussi01> david_: ?
[12:30] <jussi01> what did you just do?
[12:30] <david_> I put it konsole
[12:30] <david_> typed it
[12:30] <jussi01> what?
[12:30] <david_>  /msg ubotu binarydriver
[12:30] <jussi01> no, do that in irc :)
[12:31] <david_> lol, not what I was suposed to do, eh,  lol
[12:31] <jussi01> then the bot will message you about binary drivers
[12:31] <jussi01> :)
[12:31] <david_> lol oh ok
[12:31] <david_>  /msg ubotu binarydriver
[12:31] <jussi01> david_: - the space
[12:32] <david_> ahh
[12:32] <david_> picky picky
[12:32] <jussi01> the / indicates a command, so needs to be the first character
[12:34] <storbeck> kai: http://debaday.debian.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/write-tags-selected.jpg
[12:34] <storbeck> Select the tracks you want to change the artist on, open that menu list, and select the "edit 'artist' tag for selected tracks"
[12:36] <david_> "
[12:36] <david_> The software source for the package
[12:36] <david_> nvidia-glx-new
[12:36] <david_> is not enabled.
[12:37] <david_> how do I do that?
[12:38] <kai> When I clickon the track I get the artist name and everything, but in the content pane it show as various artist there and when I use cover manger.
[12:40] <kai> I found it
[12:40] <kai> Thanks tho
[12:41] <kai> If your right click in the content pane click on don't show under various artist
[12:55] <proge> while compiling mac80211 i get an error: Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/'
[12:55] <proge> but should'nt the Makefile be under /build?
[12:55] <proge> or am i lost? :)
[12:56] <willis_> You proberly need to install the various kernel header files perhaps.
[12:57] <proge> hmm, u mean other than linux-header-"uname -r"?
[12:58] <willis_> Not sure. May be it wants other stuff.   Seems odd it wants a makefile  however.
[13:00] <proge> ok, well i'll just keep searching, thanks anyway :)
[13:01] <jussi01> proge: have you googled the exact error, usually there is some help there :)
[13:01] <proge> yeah i have :P
[13:01] <willis_> where did this mac80211 source come from? Could be some odd thing in it - that its wanting the full kjernel source.
[13:01] <proge> btw would it be hard to upgrade from 2.6.22-14generic to 2.6.24?
[13:02] <jussi01> !kernel
[13:02] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[13:02] <proge> intellinuxwireless.org willis_
[13:06] <proge> ok thanks jussi01 guess i'll try and do that :P
[13:07] <jussi01> :)
[13:08] <proge> Believe me, this isn't interesting at all <- this one there is just irresistible ^^
[13:09] <anto> Ubuntu  france ?
[13:09] <anto> ya quelqun
[13:09] <proge> would guess it's #ubuntu.fr? :S and for Kubuntu, #kubuntu.fr?
[13:10] <anto> thx
[13:10] <storbeck> !fr
[13:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:10] <proge> ok, well, near enough ;P
[13:30] <billyBobO> does anyone know if Wubi will be available for Kubuntu 8.04?  Or will kubuntu-desktop be needed to install afterwards?
[13:31] <jussi01> billyBobO: #ubuntu+1 is more likely to have an answer for you
[13:31] <billyBobO> jussi01: thanks!
[13:32] <storbeck> billyBobO: Yes.
[13:33] <storbeck> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080224-wubi-arrives-a-look-at-ubuntu-8-04-alpha-5.html
[13:33] <billyBobO> yes, wubi for kubuntu as well, storbeck?  great, thank you!
[13:35] <dogma> !fr
[13:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:35] <storbeck> Yes, billyBobO
[13:38] <nicolah> hi guys using kde is it possible to have *all* windows without top border ? (since I'm using a tiny notebook with low resolution) thanks
[13:39] <storbeck> killall kwin
[13:40] <storbeck> granted, you won't be able to move or close anything
[13:40] <storbeck> other than going to file -> close
[13:41] <nicolah> killing kwin won't let me us  the alt+tab function to switch windows
[13:42] <nicolah> (just tested)
[13:42] <storbeck> Interesting
[13:44] <nicolah> you understand that without top border and without top panel that's the only way to switch windows
[13:44] <nicolah> I'm using xandros+kde on the eeepc so I'm looking for  way to gain as much space as possible
[13:45] <storbeck> killall kwin killed your top panel? as in your menubar?
[13:46] <nicolah> uhm let me try again
[13:47] <nicolah> I don't know if it kills the top panel because it's hidden and it shows whenever i reach the top left corner, but with kwin killed it does'nt show
[13:47] <storbeck> Hm, weird. I wasn't aware it did that
[13:47] <nicolah> if I run kwin it shows again, so I don't know if it kills it of if it prevent from showing
[13:48] <AndrewB> Hmm, where can I help translate kubuntu? I can't find it on launchpad
[13:49] <storbeck> Well, the window decorations are handled by kwin
[13:49] <nicolah> is there a way to tell kwin just to create windows without top border ?
[13:50] <nicolah> that would make kde great for eeepc
[13:59] <storbeck> I know that when a lot of people install compiz they lose their window decorations
[14:00] <storbeck> (not intended)
[14:00] <storbeck> I suppose you could try to recreate the mistake
[14:00] <nicolah> uhm
[14:01] <flipstar> that comes when they dont start an window decorator with compiz ..
[14:01] <flipstar> or even install so compiz can start it by itself ..
[14:01] <storbeck> Eh, not always
[14:01] <anto> hey homies
[14:01] <storbeck> Sometimes the theme itself doesn't work right with compiz
[14:02] <storbeck> But hey, it was just a suggestion
[14:03] <storbeck> Isn't there a default window decoration that you can pick that basically has no top border, except 3 buttons that stick out (min,max,x)
[14:06] <storbeck> Or maybe just deleting all the installed themes
[14:07] <noaXess> hi all
[14:08] <noaXess> wich pecl package i need to install over pear.. that i can use all the pecl features? pecl_http?
[14:10] <nicolah> #kde guys helped me setting the advanced window decorations for all windows without borders
[14:11] <storbeck> How?
[14:12] <kpenrose> Anyone running openvpn?
[14:13] <noaXess> ou.. sorry. wring channel :)
[14:15] <Lynoure> kpenrose: unless you are taking a poll on it's popularity, just ask your question and someone might answer
[14:16] <storbeck> Haha
[14:16] <tekstacy> is there a "right" place to make a folder for all users to share?
[14:16] <storbeck> Good one, Lynoure
[14:19] <Lynoure> tekstacy: Often giving full permission to a folder for all users is a bad idea, the place is not that standard as the result. Consider making one for group  users  instead, not likely that all your system users need to get there too
[14:19] <kpenrose> The question is too long to type for an audience that can't help.
[14:20] <nosrednaekim> kpenrose» what?
[14:20] <Lynoure> kpenrose: If you are taking a poll, I do like openvpn, but no, not using it currently (hmph, ciscos)
[14:20] <tekstacy> Lynoure, ahh, makes sense. Thank you
[14:20] <kpenrose> I'll ask in the #openvpn channel
[14:21] <Lynoure> kpenrose: I hope they'll help you then.
[14:22] <flipstar> is there an overview which shortcut is for which special letter ?
[14:22] <kpenrose> Thanks
[14:22] <tekstacy> So I asked the guy in the BestBuy in Christiana,DE "Show me one of these new Linux machines".
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» eeepc's?
[14:23] <Lynoure> kpenrose: "is anyone using foobar" is just not a good opening, because if all that have chime in it can cause quite a flood. and it still does not measure their ability to answer the question
[14:23] <flipstar> foobar rocks :=)
[14:23] <tekstacy> yeah, and dell, and a few others are making them now
[14:23] <tekstacy> He tells me "Linux is considered hacker tools and we don't support that"
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» best buy sells dells?
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» lol
[14:27] <tekstacy> I told the guy linux isn't about hacking, but hackers use it because they're smart enough not to use vista
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> linux is all about hacking..... it is NOT however, about cracking
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> but try explaining that to a BEst Buy employee
[14:28] <tekstacy> yeah, but that point would have gone right over his head
[14:29] <anto> french ?*
[14:29] <tekstacy> They do have one k box for sale....    I got bored waiting for my friends
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> did they have any linux machines though?
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> !anto
[14:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[14:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:30] <tekstacy> None, no store I have ever seen in DE does
[14:30] <Jahromeo> remove - only removes the installed program ? but purge - removes program + install files? - am i getting that correctly?
[14:31] <tekstacy> I will be the first
[14:31] <flipstar> Jahromeo: no..purge does remove completly
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> Jahromeo» purge removes config files too
[14:31] <flipstar> but only these in /etc/
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> right
[14:33] <tekstacy> So this week, I've been without a windows box for 6 months now.
[14:34]  * nosrednaekim hasn't used windows (other than fixing freinds computers) for 3 years :)
[14:34] <tekstacy> To you guys who hang out in here and answer the questions....
[14:34] <tekstacy> THANK YOU GUYS
[14:35] <nosrednaekim> You are very welcome... and i'm probably right in saying the first 2 weeks were the hardest?
[14:35] <tekstacy> nosrednaekim, yes
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» missing windows programs or just learning how Linux works?
[14:37] <tekstacy> both. But I learned how to use Wine, that helped alot
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> long live WINE :)
[14:37] <tekstacy> After a week or so, I get used to "finding the answers" when things go bad, then it ges easy
[14:38] <soussou> hi all
[14:38] <tekstacy> Honestly, I am so f**king happy with this, it's like the fun I had first learning
[14:38] <soussou> is there a kde4 release in the works?
[14:38] <nosrednaekim> yep..... giyf.
[14:38] <soussou> tekstacy: what r u talking about?
[14:38] <nosrednaekim> soussou» yeah... for hardy
[14:39] <soussou> nosrednaekim: r u serious? I downloaded hardy alpha 5, and there's no kde4 desktop, just dolphin, and some packages
[14:39] <soussou> but nothing really like a full fledged kde4 desktop
[14:39] <AgentZ86> HI all, fyi no effect on kubuntu and fxcm.com java app, same as ubuntu, my lack of that one button, (right click)(menu) stop/loss just doesn't work, but I"m going to do a fresh kubuntu on separate partition to confirm. Then I have to conclude it's something to do with my java installation or java webstart
[14:39] <tekstacy> kubuntu in general, I noticed this morning it's been six months w/o windows
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> soussou» there will be two cds for hardy.... kde3 and kde4, the kde4 CD is still int he works
[14:40] <soussou> cool, thanks for the good news
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» or web browser?
[14:40] <tekstacy> if you just want to "check it out" openSUSE has a live cd w/ kde4
[14:40] <soussou> I would hate seeing some other distro beating kubuntu to the punch
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> or use the Gutsy kde4 CD
[14:41] <soussou> tekstacy: I did try opensuse 11, it's kde4 for sure, but too buggy, it keeps crashing all the time
[14:42] <flipstar> i just tried fedora9 ..was stable for me :)
[14:42] <flipstar> it comes with kde4 as default
[14:42] <soussou> does fedora9 have kde4 desktop?
[14:43] <flipstar> yes but it still is a alpha or something
[14:43] <soussou> woow, I swear, I did download it, tried it in vbox, and gave it up, didn't see the point of another gnome distro, ubuntu beats the crap out of fedora
[14:43] <tekstacy> isn't fedora k?
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> tekstacy» no...mostly GNOME
[14:43] <flipstar> haha i just used it to fix my kubuntu :)
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> though they are trying to do a little more KDE
[14:44] <flipstar> it has kde4 ..
[14:44] <AgentZ86> I like K, best, but I've been using Ubuntu and have trouble deciding they both work so well now with just about all the apps I like to use
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> soussou» BTW. you can grab the KDE 4.0.1  packages in hardy..
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> apt-get install kde4-core
[14:44] <AgentZ86> how can one choose between gnome or kde they are both good now
[14:44] <JuJuBee> Can someone look at dmesg output and tell me if my USB drive is hozed? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57577/
[14:44] <tekstacy> I think someone gave a fedora w/ k cd, but I didn't care for fedora
[14:44] <flipstar> AgentZ86: just install both..
[14:44] <soussou> nosrednaekim: does it install a kde4 desktop too?
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> soussou» yup
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> !info kde4-core (hardy)
[14:45] <soussou> nice, how does ir behave?
[14:45] <ubotu> kde4-core (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 core modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB
[14:45] <soussou> stable enough to be considered for sure?
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> soussou» its stable for me....(on gutsy)
[14:46] <soussou> I will give it a shot immediately, and report back in 30 minutes
[14:46] <jussi01> nosrednaekim: :)
[14:46] <flipstar> JuJuBee: /dev/sdb ?
[14:46] <soussou> I have ubuntu ultimate edition, with both desktops: kde + gnome
[14:46] <flipstar> lol ultimate edition
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> jussi01» but what is the factoid?
[14:46] <JuJuBee> Yes flipstar ( it is a flash drive )
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[14:46] <tekstacy> I only have ubuntu home premium  :(
[14:47] <jussi01> langpack
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> ok
[14:47] <flipstar> ubuntu comes as ultimate as default :)
[14:47] <soussou> yep, UE is pretty decent, it comes with plenty of software
[14:47] <Pici> !ultimate
[14:47] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[14:47] <jussi01> !mint | soussou
[14:47] <ubotu> soussou: please see above
[14:47] <soussou> I like the art work too
[14:47] <jussi01> hehe
[14:47] <wad> Good morning.
[14:47] <soussou> I am not seeking support, and I am not a developer
[14:48] <soussou> I am here hanging out with fellow linux users
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> :)
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> morning wad
[14:48] <wad> I'm trying to figure out how to connect my kubuntu laptop to my home WPA wireless network. Let me explain what I've done so far:
[14:48] <soussou> I don't see the point behind trashing UE, or mint, or any derived distros, they're all cousins
[14:49] <jussi01> soussou: you may find #kubuntu-offtopic more to your needs :)
[14:49] <soussou> jussi01: I am not seeking any help
[14:49] <JuJuBee> flipstar : any suggestions ?
[14:49] <soussou> just chilling with you boys
[14:49] <JuJuBee> or is it toast ?
[14:49] <soussou> I am not trolling either
[14:49] <wad> 1. When I bring my laptop between home and work, my network nettings would get completely munged. So eventually I just wiped out network manager, and wrote some scripts to connect me to my home wired LAN, work wired LAN, work wireless WEP network, or wireless PCMCIA sprint card. All good so far.
[14:49] <flipstar> JuJuBee: try fsck ..
[14:50] <soussou> so just be easy on me guys, OK?
[14:50] <flipstar> if you have ext3 you'll be lucky
[14:50] <JuJuBee> Thanks, never thought of that...
[14:50] <JuJuBee> The drive is not ext2, I think it is fat32
[14:50] <soussou> can I ask a generla filesystem question too?
[14:50] <JuJuBee> I use it between windows and linux
[14:51] <flipstar> oh ..
[14:51] <soussou> I have about 160 MB of free space
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> wad» use wpa-supplicant
[14:51] <flipstar> then you might have some data loose..
[14:51] <soussou> how do I claim it and make it part of my filesystem?
[14:51] <wad> 2. But despite spending several hours trying to manually configure this laptop to connect to my home wireless WPA network, I have so far failed. So now I just did "apt-get install knetworkmanager" which installs networkmanager, and tinkered with the GUI settings. My objective is to get it to connect, then harvest the config files, so I can do it manually on my own.
[14:51] <jussi01> soussou: sure, just trying to get across that this is a support channel, not a place for general chatter (#kubuntu-offtopic)
[14:51] <flipstar> soussou: try qtparted
[14:51] <wad> nosrednaekim: Of course. I've spent about an hour trying to get that to work.
[14:51] <wad> nosrednaekim: no joy so far.
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> wad» so have I..... the only thing that I found that works is Knetwrkmanager, as much as I hate it
[14:52] <soussou> does formatting a partition automartically makes it part of the filesystem?
[14:52] <soussou> *automatically
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> soussou» what filesystem?
[14:52] <soussou> linux filesystem
[14:52] <wad> nosrednaekim: so, you got it to work! Can you give me some hints?
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> soussou» well, it can be mounted.
[14:52] <soussou> I have a small chunk of my hard disk free
[14:53] <flipstar> no..not generally formating..try qtparted!
[14:53] <wad> nosrednaekim: I've tried several things, and I can't get it to show me a list of available networks. What's the magic?
[14:53] <soussou> very small, about 160 MB
[14:53] <nosrednaekim> wad» no... knetworkmanager just worked.... though i'm not useing it right now (no WPA)
[14:53] <wad> rats.
[14:53] <patoruzu> sorry..i felt: hey guys...i've been dragging this problem for a week now...i dont seem to find a solution: after i upgraded to kde 3.5.9 the kded process goes to the roof each time I plug an usb drive.....
[14:53] <patoruzu> any ideas?
[14:53] <wad> I'll killed knetworkmanager, and now I'm trying to resurrect it.
[14:53] <JuJuBee> How do I use dosfsck to check /dev/sdb ?
[14:53] <nosrednaekim> wad» no list of availalable netowrks? comment out everything in your /etc/network/interfaces
[14:54] <wad> nosrednaekim: okay!
[14:54] <JuJuBee> or fsck if possible
[14:54] <flipstar> JuJuBee: fsck will automaticly try to determine..just type <sudo fsck /dev/sdb>
[14:54] <wad> nosrednaekim: anything else before I go offline and try it?
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> !diskcheck
[14:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diskcheck - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> wad» yeah... after editing it... kill knetowrkmanager and run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then restart knetworkmanager
[14:55] <AgentZ86> anyone- when installing kubuntu on seperate partition with Ubuntu on my first partition etc. should I create and use a seperate swap as well, or no problems using the same Ubuntu swap ??
[14:55] <JuJuBee> flipstar : fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb
[14:55] <JuJuBee> Tells me the superblock could not be read...
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» they can use the same swap as long as you don't hibernate
[14:55] <wad> nosrednaekim: allright. Thanks!
[14:56] <flipstar> err then try fsck.vfat it was vfat or ?
[14:56]  * wad goes offline
[14:56] <soussou> never mind, I tried qparted, that small chunk of free space doesn't even show
[14:56] <AgentZ86> hmm, I'll make seperate swap cause I don't know if I hybernate or not, I just use defaults
[14:56] <AgentZ86> thanks
[14:56] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» do you tell it to hibernate when you sut down?
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> *shut
[14:57] <AgentZ86> no
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> then you don't
[14:57] <AgentZ86> thanks I just restart I don't think I've ever turned off the computer, and it just uses it's defaults whatever it has on it when I installed Ubuntu, I'm assuming Kubuntu will do the same, ??? right
[14:58] <soussou> what would be the best IDE for developing qt4 apps?
[14:59] <soussou> I know it's off topic, but I was wondering if anyone here does code using qt4
[14:59] <soussou> and what IDE would they recommend
[14:59] <soussou> kdevelop?
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> soussou» kdevelop4 (when it arrives)
[14:59] <jussi01> soussou: you would be better asking in #kubuntu-devel
[15:00] <soussou> how about qdevelop?
[15:00] <jussi01> (politely)
[15:00] <soussou> I am there
[15:00] <soussou> thanks
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> soussou» didn't know it existed :)
[15:01] <Lynoure> soussou: one can also use eclipse, Trolltech has a plugin thing for it
[15:01] <JuJuBee> flipstar : fsck.vfat /dev/sdb  dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN Read 512 bytes at 0:Input/output error
[15:01] <soussou> thanks
[15:01] <soussou> will try that one
[15:03] <MartinCleaver> how do I tell how much space a ext3 filesystem is using without mounting it? When I use dumpe2fs -h /dev/VolGroup00/VMs I see Block count:    95,961,088 and Free blocks:   77,311,025, Block size:   4096, which to me makes me think 18,555,230 used * 4,096/1,024 = 74,604,920 bytes or (guessing) about 70GiB and 4,096*77,311,025 / 1024 = 316,665,958,400 bytes free, = ~ 310GiB free from a 95,961,088 * 4096 / 1024 = 383,844,352 = ~ 370GiB drive; have I d
[15:03] <MartinCleaver> une2fs seems to report in blocks too, I can't see anything that outputs in human grokable numbers that I can also feed to resize2fs
[15:04] <flipstar> JuJuBee: how big is the disc? are the data important if you all fits+you have time you might run <sudo badblocks -s -v -n /dev/sdb> if noone has a better idea..
[15:05] <flipstar> JuJuBee: but you did ran it with sudo ? the fsck ?
[15:05] <JuJuBee> What will that do?  It is a 4G drive (I am pretty sure)  Yes used sudo...
[15:06] <arschknacker1> -irc.ubuntu.com
[15:06] <wad> It worked! I'm on my WPA wireless network!!
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> wad» cool
[15:06] <arschknacker1> >)
[15:07] <arschknacker1> >(
[15:07] <arschknacker1> >((
[15:07] <arschknacker1> (<<<
[15:07] <flipstar> JuJuBee: you probably cant use this drive as a internal ?
[15:07] <arschknacker1> <(
[15:07] <JuJuBee> How do you mean internal?
[15:07] <wad> But... I'd like to be able to do this without the network manager interfering. Do you know where these settings are stored? Can I do something in /etc/network/interfaces to make it work, once I throw out network manager?
[15:07] <patoruzu> anybody?
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> arschknacker1» this is a support channel... not a channel to try out your latest smilies
[15:08] <jpatrick> arschknacker1: please do not do that
[15:08] <JuJuBee> It is a flash stick
[15:08] <wad> Like an "ifup wlan0" sort of thing. :)
[15:08] <flipstar> oh
[15:08] <wad> my /etc/network/interfaces is empty.
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> wad» possibly... you have to look at the wpa-supplicant config file knetwork manager writes
[15:08] <jpatrick> arschknacker1: and please change your nick to something more politer
[15:08] <JuJuBee> badblocks running now...
[15:08] <wad> nosrednaekim: okay!
[15:08] <JuJuBee> up to 40000
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> wad» though I don't know where the heck that is ;)
[15:09] <wad> I found them.
[15:09] <wad> I think.
[15:09] <flipstar> you killes him
[15:09] <arschknacker1> on't know where the heck that is
[15:13] <flipstar> JuJuBee: the number at the end is important..
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[15:14] <flipstar> hi
[15:14] <JuJuBee> flipstar : at the end of the test?
[15:14] <flipstar> yep..
[15:14] <JuJuBee> I assume that by block they mean 1K block?
[15:14] <flipstar> yes
[15:15] <JuJuBee> so 4GB = 4,000,000 blocks?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> what's right way to have more than one kate text file open simultaneously on the desktop ?
[15:15] <flipstar> JuJuBee: yes
[15:15] <JuJuBee> Damn... only up to 216,000
[15:16] <flipstar> BluesKaj: you want all text in one window or all in seperate windows? can you set it in kate-->setting-->sessions
[15:18] <flipstar> JuJuBee: hm you cant mount it anyway ?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> flipstar , seperate windows
[15:18] <JuJuBee> wouldnt mount it
[15:18] <JuJuBee> will not using -v make it go faster?
[15:19] <flipstar> -v is for --verbose ..
[15:20] <JuJuBee> mount: /dev/sdb: can't read superblock
[15:21] <flipstar> mount -t fat maybe ?
[15:21] <JuJuBee> -t vfat
[15:22] <flipstar> hm you could try to replicate it with dd and then reformat..
[15:23] <JuJuBee> never used dd to replicate a drive to a image...
[15:23] <BluesKaj> yes flipstar ,but what's the option in sessions ?
[15:24] <tekstacy> Bye all
[15:25] <JuJuBee> flipstar : dd if=/dev/sdb | gzip > flash_dirve.img.gz
[15:25] <JuJuBee> dd: reading `/dev/sdb': Input/output error
[15:25] <JuJuBee> 0+0 records in
[15:25] <JuJuBee> 0+0 records out  0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.0167365 seconds, 0.0 kB/s
[15:26] <flipstar> :/
[15:27] <mrunagi_> what would the command line string be to extract files from a zip?
[15:32] <tcm_> mrunagi_: unzip foo.zip
[15:32] <mrunagi_> sigh
[15:32] <mrunagi_> im getting an error
[15:32] <mrunagi_> this is no good
[15:33] <genii> Likely file is corrupt
[15:33] <vijay_> hi
[15:34] <mrunagi_> that makes me sad
[15:35] <vijay_> can any1 tell me . why i m getting slow net speed then win?
[15:37] <flipstar> http://www.speedguide.net:8080
[15:38] <raul> hi! can anyone tell me why i cannot use java in Kubuntu (at least in the beta Hardy?)
[15:39] <raul> is that a bug... or is it just that the version that is compatible is not available yet?
[15:41] <genii> raul: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:44] <BluesKaj> genii, what's right way to have more than one kate text file open simultaneously on the desktop, cant open more than one at a time ?
[15:44] <genii> BluesKaj: I mainly use nano, so not much help :)
[15:45] <Daisuke_Ido> nano?  not vi?  not emacs?  you must not be cool then -_-
[15:47] <BluesKaj> <--old windows excel etc so , i need my desktop "fix"
[15:47] <amerigo> rooms
[15:47] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: I use emacs when I'm ssh'd into our bsd servers, vi when I have to use vipw or visudo...otherwise I like the lowly old nano :)
[15:48] <Daisuke_Ido> genii: only kidding...  i have no room to talk, i use gedit or kate, depending on the environment, nano if i'm in ssh
[15:48]  * BluesKaj wonders why kate allows only one instance of open text file on desktop 
[15:49] <BluesKaj> something about sessions but there doesn't seem to be any options that make sense to me
[15:49] <genii> BluesKaj: The same file opened twice or 2 different files?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> different files
[15:49] <BluesKaj> like copy & pasting back & forth etc
[15:50] <flipstar> on ->window->new windows you can duplicate it..
[15:50] <mefisto__> I have a kaffeine update that wants to remove kaffeine-xine. Does that sound right? is the kaffeine package update repacing the old kaffeine package AND the kaffeine-xine package?
[15:50] <mefisto__> *replacing
[15:51] <genii> BluesKaj: The new window, then opening another file in the new window worked for me
[15:53] <jetsaredim> is it my imagination or does the new version of kaffeine not need kaffeine-xine?
[15:53] <mefisto__> jetsaredim: just what I was asking about
[15:55] <jetsaredim> mefisto__: was thinking that since xine is the default engine that maybe it got incorporated into the main package
[15:55] <BluesKaj> it's kaffeine-xine in the 0.8.5 version
[15:55] <jetsaredim> yea - the version i'm seeing in my adept window is 0.8.6-0ubuntu3~gutsy1
[15:55] <mefisto__> jetsaredim: I think you're right, but it would be nice if someone could confirm this
[15:56] <jetsaredim> yea - there's nothing in the changelog
[15:56] <Waterstoff> well
[15:56] <Waterstoff> perhaps you should update
[15:56] <Waterstoff> and try using it
[15:56] <Waterstoff> and if it works
[15:56] <Waterstoff> you have your answer
[15:56] <Waterstoff> if it doesn't work, you have your answer
[15:56] <BluesKaj> jetsaredim:  you on hardy ?
[15:56] <jetsaredim> BluesKaj: nope
[15:57] <BluesKaj> !enter | Waterstoff
[15:57] <ubotu> Waterstoff: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:57] <Dragnslcr> I noticed the same thing this morning. I haven't had a chance to try Kaffeine though
[15:57] <flipstar> removing kaffeine was one of the first things i did..
[15:57] <Waterstoff> !annoying | BluesKaj
[15:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about annoying - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <jetsaredim> flipstar: y?
[15:58] <Waterstoff> codeine++
[15:58] <flipstar> i prefer gmplayer & vlc
[15:58] <Waterstoff> !english | jetsaredim
[15:58] <ubotu> jetsaredim: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:58] <BluesKaj> I'm using the default version ...just did a clean install and adept notifier is on ice ATM...I don't trust the upgrades after the update fiasco of the last 2 days
[15:59] <jetsaredim> Waterstoff: ?
[15:59] <flipstar> aside from that kaffeine always did crashed in the past :/
[15:59] <Waterstoff> jetsaredim: I don't believe the word "y" exists in the english language.
[16:00] <mefisto__> Waterstoff: how does this help anyone?
[16:00] <jetsaredim> phonetically, y == why
[16:01] <Waterstoff> mhmm
[16:01] <Waterstoff> I was talking about the fact that english was required in this channel
[16:01] <Waterstoff> I don't speak phonetic
[16:02] <mefisto__> Waterstoff: so you mistook if for french?
[16:02] <khaije1> it seems like evms is dead, but are there any successor/replacements?
[16:03] <flipstar> what actually is evms ?
[16:03] <khaije1> !evms
[16:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:03] <jetsaredim> http://evms.sourceforge.net/, methinks
[16:04] <khaije1> oh, it's a storage management layer
[16:04] <khaije1> thats it
[16:04] <mefisto__> Dragnslcr: so you've applied the kaffeine update that removed kaffeine-xine?
[16:04] <Dragnslcr> mefisto__- yeah, but I haven't tried using Kaffeine yet
[16:05] <khaije1> it was designed to make it really simple and consistent to setup any kinda arrangement from, typical setup to super lvm2 features all through one interface
[16:05] <Waterstoff> mefisto__: no, I correctly understood it as not english
[16:05] <flipstar> and it doesnt exist anymore..?
[16:06] <khaije1> it's looking like i'll need some sort of raid on my home machine, i'm just not looking forward to learning a whole new set of commands that i'll rarely use and that punish mistakes harshly
[16:06] <mefisto__> Dragnslcr: if you could try it for us now and confirm it still works without kaffeine-xine, that would settle the question
[16:06] <jetsaredim> Dragnslcr: yea - that would be great - if you could
[16:07] <Dragnslcr> Except I'm remoted in to my computer, so it'll be at least 6 hours
[16:07] <flipstar> khaije1: theres a proggy that does all the raid stuff for you :) >>dmraid
[16:07] <jetsaredim> doh
[16:07] <Dragnslcr> How about you try it yourselves?
[16:07] <jetsaredim> i'm in the middle of using kaffeine
[16:07] <Minnozz> Hi, does anybody know a good way to minimize Mozilla Thunderbird to the system tray?
[16:08] <sivaji>  please help me i just directed the output of "history" command to a file called "sample" then i tried "sh sample" .this thing has removed all the files in /home/sivaji dir  now i dont have anyfile in home/sivaji directory is there anyway to restore those files
[16:08] <khaije1> flipstar: ok thanks, i'll check that out, evms seemed so promising. oh well! :-)
[16:09] <mefisto__> Minnozz: see "ksystraycmd --help" that might do what you want
[16:11] <flipstar> sivaji: you might look at :trash/ but i dont know how this script removed the files..btw what did you tried there ? oO
[16:11] <gluk> hi all
[16:11] <gluk> bye all
[16:12] <Minnozz> mefisto__: thanks, but isn't there something like a plugin for thunderbird?
[16:12] <jetsaredim> flipstar sivaji I think trash:/ is only if you removed the files through konqueror
[16:12] <flipstar> Minnozz: it should be possible in thunderbird itself..
[16:12] <flipstar> maybe it just mv'd it
[16:12] <sivaji> flipstar jetsaredim nothing is there  in trash
[16:12] <mefisto__> Minnozz: last I checked, there was a windows-only extension that does that
[16:13] <and80> hi all
[16:13] <jetsaredim> Minnozz: the thunderbird biff extension throws a popup when new mail comes in
[16:13] <sivaji> jetsaredim yes you are correct
[16:13] <and80> I have just installed kubuntu on a macbookpro
[16:13] <and80> but I have a problem setting up the keyboard layout
[16:14] <and80> the system settings gui seems to not work
[16:14] <jetsaredim> sivaji: I hate to tell you but I think you are out of luck
[16:14] <Minnozz> jetsaredim: Yes it already does that, but I want it in the system tray, not the taskbar
[16:15] <sivaji> how to create a icon in /home/sivaji that points to Desktop
[16:15] <sivaji> ?
[16:15] <flipstar> !find recover | Minnozz
[16:15] <ubotu> minnozz: Found: friendly-recovery, recover, recoverjpeg
[16:15] <jetsaredim> Minnozz: sounds like you need to learn how to make tb extensions :)
[16:16] <Minnozz> upz :P
[16:16] <mefisto__> Minnozz: there's also a checkbox in the menu editor to place an app in the system tray
[16:19] <Minnozz> mefisto__: hmm, where can I find that?
[16:19] <flipstar> is there an alternative for vnstat?
[16:20] <mefisto__> Minnozz: right-click on kmenu button, or type "kmenuedit"
[16:21] <Minnozz> mefisto__: ah I see, thanks a lot!
[16:24] <jetsaredim> mefisto__: I don't see that it actually did anything
[16:24] <jetsaredim> I take that back
[16:24] <gluk> hi all\
[16:25] <gluk> I need help
[16:25] <mefisto__> jetsaredim: you mean the kaffeine update?
[16:25] <jpatrick> !ask | gluk
[16:25] <ubotu> gluk: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:25] <jetsaredim> mefisto__: no the tb tray thing
[16:28] <gluk> i configure internet ih ubuntu just now. but only IRC and ping works, no browser or any other program. P.S. I am absolutely newble P.S.2 sorry my english
[16:28] <gluk> *in ubuntu
[16:30] <flipstar> ubuntu? --> #ubuntu
[16:30] <gluk> kubuntu
[16:30] <flipstar> oh
[16:31] <Daisuke_Ido> gluk: konqueror not working?
[16:31] <jetsaredim> gluk: when you say configured - do you mean through the knetworkmanager or through system settings?
[16:31] <Daisuke_Ido> jetsaredim: i'd wager his net's working.  why hasn't a bug report been filed on konqueror for that?  or has it and it's just being ignored
[16:31] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a proxy thing, i believe
[16:31] <_Angelus_> guys
[16:31] <_Angelus_> will i lose my uptime if i suspend to ram?
[16:32] <Daisuke_Ido> _Angelus_: let me find out
[16:32] <_Angelus_> ok
[16:32] <gluk> system settings, not knetworkmanager
[16:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> shoot, can't tell...  i had to reboot this thing yesterday
[16:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> i don't think you do though
[16:33] <gluk> yeah, konqueror and Akredator not working
[16:33] <flipstar> gluk: did you specified a proxy ?
[16:33] <jetsaredim> gluk: what does your network setup look like? static or dynamic? proxies?
[16:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> jetsaredim: completely irrelevant.
[16:33] <jetsaredim> Daisuke_Laptop: ?
[16:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> jetsaredim: it's a problem with konqueror, not his connection
[16:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> he's here, his connection is obviously okay :)
[16:34] <gluk> no, I dont use it // I using an GPRS connection, via mobile phone.
[16:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> proxies yes :)
[16:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> i missed that in your response, i apologize
[16:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> gluk: from a terminal, sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:35] <coggz> please help me with my wireless.
[16:35] <gluk> ok, i will try it now
[16:35] <flipstar> gluk: are there servers in /etc/resolv.conf ? try cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:35] <flipstar> !wireless > coggz
[16:36] <coggz> ok, my wireless no longer shows up in knetworkmanager
[16:37] <Piddy> Can anyone help me with kopete please?
[16:37] <coggz> does it crash when u connect to msn?
[16:37] <Piddy> No, it says the pass is wrong.
[16:37] <coggz> oh,
[16:37] <Piddy> Although it's not. Works at hotmail.
[16:37] <gluk> there are no firefox packet here
[16:38] <coggz> can anyone help with wireless
[16:38] <jetsaredim> is it working at all?
[16:38] <flipstar> installing packages might requiere an working connection..
[16:39] <gluk> there are only "nameserver 213.87.0.7" and "nameserver 213.87.1.1" in /etc/resolv.conf
[16:39] <flipstar> okay..so this is not the problem..
[16:39] <flipstar> did you specified a proxy ?
[16:41] <coggz> jetsaredim: no, not at all. I had it working fine (using ndiswrapper)
[16:41] <colonel> hi everyone !
[16:42] <colonel> may I ask a question ? I:d like to install VLC on Kubunctu...
[16:42] <colonel> adept doesn:t seem to find the package..
[16:42] <colonel> ??
[16:42] <jetsaredim> coggz: what did you change?
[16:43] <Lynoure> colonel: it should be in the  universe  repository
[16:43] <Lynoure> colonel: do you have that repository in use?
[16:43] <gluk> i dont use proxy
[16:43] <coggz> nothing, one day i hibernate it, then i open up and bang! it's gone. Does not show up as a device
[16:43] <colonel> what is this ? i don:t know
[16:44] <colonel> is it something to add to a list ?
[16:44] <flipstar> colonel you have to use the universe source for that
[16:45] <gluk> i can ping www.google.com, but i couldn't visit it with browser..
[16:45] <flipstar> you probably need to add it
[16:45] <colonel> ok, thank you guys, i will try this
[16:45] <flipstar> gluk: would be great if you could try another browser ..
[16:46] <Lynoure> colonel:  sudo kate /etc/sources.list  and uncomment the lines with universe  :)
[16:46] <Lynoure> colonel: oops,   kdesu kate /etc/sources.list
[16:46] <colonel> thanks  times !! ;-0
[16:47] <Sbucatone_> Lynoure: /etc/apt/sor
[16:47] <gluk> will Dolphin works with internet?
[16:47] <Sbucatone_> i think no
[16:48] <jetsaredim> try lynx
[16:48] <gluk> i hewen't it
[16:48] <gluk> *have not
[16:49] <Sbucatone_> gluk: konqueror does't work ?
[16:49] <gluk> no
[16:49] <Sbucatone_> gluk: try to disable cache
[16:49] <gluk> it doesn't
[16:50] <Sbucatone_> gluk: :) i have konqueror for internet browser
[16:50] <coggz> any thoughts on my wireless?
[16:50] <Sbucatone_> coggz: what's your problem ?
[16:51] <coggz> my wireless dos not show up, it was working fine until i hibernated
[16:51] <gluk> i'll go out for a short time, sorry
[16:52] <Sbucatone_> coggz: iwconfig in a terminal
[16:52] <Sbucatone_> !paste
[16:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:52] <Sbucatone_> coggz: use paste bin to paste output
[16:52] <Lynoure> Sbucatone_: yes, thanks for the correction
[16:53] <Sbucatone_> :)
[16:54] <coggz> Sbucatone_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57579/
[16:54] <coggz> i do have eth0, that is what im using now, eth1 does not show up...
[16:55] <Sbucatone_> coggz: ifconfigg eth1 down
[16:55] <Sbucatone_> coggz: ifconfig eth1 down
[16:55] <Sbucatone_> coggz: then ifconfig eth1 up
[16:56] <Sbucatone_> coggz: plz paste even iwlist eth1 scan
[16:56] <coggz> had to be sudo'ed
[16:57] <Sbucatone_> coggz: yes
[16:57] <z3r0-x> how are you?
[16:57] <coggz> Sbucatone_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57581/
[16:57] <coggz> they all showup
[16:58] <z3r0-x> me?
[16:58] <z3r0-x> are you hot?
[16:58] <Sbucatone_> coggz: ok your card works well
[16:58] <z3r0-x> i have big titts do you want to fuck me?
[16:59] <coggz> !wtf
[16:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:59] <Sbucatone_> coggz: and so you will do  :  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:59] <Sbucatone_> should do :)
[17:00] <z3r0-x> sorry chicking if worked..lol
[17:00] <z3r0-x> how are you?
[17:00] <tekstacy> Is there a way to amplify the sound? The sound on this movie is too soft even at full
[17:01] <flipstar> vlc can..
[17:02] <Sbucatone_> tekstacy:if you can't find a nice solution...this for avi movie ... ffmpeg -i INPUT -vcodec copy -acodec mp3 -ab 128k -vol 500 -y OUTPUT
[17:02] <Sbucatone_> tekstacy: not sure..
[17:02] <coggz> Sbucatone_: still not working
[17:03] <tekstacy> I like that, it fixes the movie not the machine
[17:03] <jetsaredim> tekstacy: kmix
[17:03] <tekstacy> I could try vlc, but I like mplayer
[17:03] <jetsaredim> open the full mixer
[17:03] <coggz> Sbucatone_: any other suggestions?
[17:03] <tekstacy> everything is at full
[17:04] <jetsaredim> tekstacy: volume control on your speakers?
[17:04] <Sbucatone_> coggz: your card can detect wifi networks ...so i think you should  sudo ifconfig eth1 down ; sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:04] <tekstacy> yup. laptop.
[17:04] <Arwen> tekstacy, volume knob....
[17:04] <tekstacy> I wonder if another mixer would let me do it....
[17:05] <Arwen> you could use -af volnorm on MPlayer
[17:05] <coggz> Sbucatone_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57582/
[17:05] <jetsaredim> tekstacy: there is alsamixer from the command-line
[17:05] <Arwen> but I think fixing your sound system would be a better idea
[17:06] <tekstacy> Well, it's more the file. Sound works ok, but sometimes I get a song or movie with the sound recorded to soft. I was looking for a temporary fix
[17:06] <Sbucatone_> coggz: mm sometime my card does that...but i have a usb card so i remove and after i re-plug in it and it works fine, ...you should check your dns too
[17:06] <tekstacy> didn't know about -af volnorm, thanks
[17:07] <anto> kubuntu france
[17:07] <mefisto__> tekstacy: kaffeine has a audio normalisation filter, Player menu, effect plugins...
[17:07] <jpatrick> !fr | anto
[17:07] <ubotu> anto: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:08] <coggz> Sbucatone_: how? still no luck after disabling and restarting
[17:08] <tekstacy> mefisto, thanks
[17:08] <gluk> i'm here
[17:08] <Sbucatone_> coggz: well kdesudo kate /etc/resolv.conf
[17:09] <TheFarmer> Is it possible to install Kubuntu on a external , so you can 'leave' your NTFS/Windows alone, without resizing, etc ?
[17:09] <tekstacy> TheFarmer, yes
[17:09] <coggz> Sbucatone_: nameserver 192.168.0.1
[17:09] <Sbucatone_> coggz: put this
[17:09] <Sbucatone_> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[17:09] <Sbucatone_> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[17:09] <flipstar> Sbucatone_: you cant edit nameservers there ..
[17:09] <tekstacy> Assuming your box allows you to boot from it
[17:10] <flipstar> it will be overwritten
[17:10] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: i know
[17:10] <TheFarmer> tekstacy: And it'll do whatever it needs to do (lilo? grub or whatever?) to the main drive to just tell it there is another OS on the external ?
[17:11] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: but in my card if i left that stuff it doesn't work ... i don't know why but when i change them after it works
[17:11] <tekstacy> TheFarmer, you would install it on a flash drive as the only os.
[17:12] <flipstar> hm..the right file for dns namerserver changes is /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ..
[17:12] <coggz> ill fix it later. bye thanks for your help
[17:12] <tekstacy> But, yes, it could do all that stuff to your windows drive
[17:12] <ScorpKing> nameservers can be set in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[17:12] <flipstar> exactly
[17:12] <tekstacy> Curious, what do you farm?
[17:13] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: well if i do that then..it works ...so why? i don't know
[17:13] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: i mean on resolv.conf
[17:13] <[T]an1> I am working on getting my sound working correctly. I open kmix and it shows nothing selectable in the current mixer window. when I select either oss or alsa in my mplayer preferences the movies give an error that no sound is working.
[17:13] <[T]an1> could use some assistance.
[17:13] <flipstar> !install > TheFarmer
[17:14] <ScorpKing> Sbucatone_: do you use dialup? or something else?
[17:14] <flipstar> Sbucatone_: doesnt mean it have to work for all :)
[17:14] <[T]an1> from lspci: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:15] <Sbucatone_> flipstar: well i have tried ..
[17:15] <Sbucatone_> ScorpKing: i have wifi connection
[17:15] <limbeaux> i installed an app using apt-get.  when i run it, it says "you must be root to run"  how do i make it ask for sudo password?
[17:15] <anto__> Hey homies
[17:15] <flipstar> !intelhda > [T]an1
[17:15] <Sbucatone_> ScorpKing: dsl 4M
[17:15] <Admiral_Chicago> limbeaux: which app is it?
[17:16] <ScorpKing> Sbucatone_: oh ok. i'm getting confused here. you have dns problems?
[17:16] <limbeaux> gproftpd
[17:16] <limbeaux> it will run from a terminal: sudo /usr/sbin/gproftpd
[17:17] <Sbucatone_> ScorpKing: no no i have not :) just i was asking why if i leave resolv.conf as default my wifi doesì't work instead if i replace open dns on resolv.conf it works
[17:17] <ScorpKing> limbeaux: from the d at the end i think it should be a deamon
[17:17] <limbeaux> it is a gui for proftpd
[17:17] <gluk_> yahooo! it works! =)
[17:17] <flipstar> limbeaux: then use kdesu instead of sudo :>
[17:18] <ScorpKing> Sbucatone_: ah i see. the only way i can think of is to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf like flipstar said
[17:18] <limbeaux> is there a way to add that to the shortcut?
[17:19] <flipstar> right click->edit ¦->
[17:19] <limbeaux> yeah, i looked at that
[17:21] <ScorpKing> Sbucatone_: add the dns servers in this line "#prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;" and uncomment it.
[17:21] <ScorpKing> i have to go. nite guys
[17:22] <limbeaux> thanks flipstar
[17:22] <limbeaux> that worked
[17:24] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome...  unreal tournament is within reach once more :D
[17:24] <BanTam> hey Arwen
[17:24] <Arwen> yo
[17:25] <BanTam> apparently mergedfb has been phased out of gutsy
[17:25] <Arwen> oh, that would explain it
[17:25] <BanTam> they now use RandR
[17:25] <Arwen> musta been replaced with xrandr
[17:25] <BanTam> yup
[17:25] <BanTam> lol
[17:25] <Arwen> yeah, I don't know enough about that to help you :-(
[17:25] <BanTam> thats ok, i just wanted to let you know
[17:25] <BanTam> im reading up on it
[17:26] <BanTam> so we were shoveling sh*t against the tide yesterday
[17:26] <BanTam> :(
[17:26] <Arwen> wasted our time, eh? :-)
[17:26] <BanTam> pretty much
[17:26] <BanTam> sorry about that
[17:26] <Arwen> more importantly, TIME FOR SOME QUAKE
[17:26] <BanTam> have fun
[17:26] <Arwen> actually, I wonder if it'll make my system crash :-P
[17:27] <BanTam> haha
[17:32] <tekstacy> ugh, back to work. bye
[17:32] <BanTam> !envy
[17:32] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:33] <yao_ziyuan> how do i apply a proxy to Adept Manager?
[17:33] <yao_ziyuan> i'm downloading some packages from a repository at wxwidgets.org and applying tor would make it faster
[17:35] <anto> kubuntu france
[17:35] <anto> france
[17:36] <frank232> !fr
[17:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:36] <flipstar> yao_ziyuan: i think you have to specify it in the sources.list or so
[17:40] <yao_ziyuan> synaptic can set proxy
[17:41] <flipstar> okay..
[17:41] <flipstar> whatever
[17:41] <maniac> Hello everyone. I have some strange problems - a whole lot of probrams crashes with sigsegv on start or within libpthread.
[17:42] <maniac> also superkaramba causes Xorg do die when idle.
[17:42] <maniac> it makes me think that something with threading is broken inside the kernel
[17:42] <genii> yao_ziyuan: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/how-to-set-up-proxy-in-apt-gets-apt.conf-265793/
[17:42] <genii> Bah he left now
[17:43] <maniac> also - nvidia proprietary driver cases everything to crash with sigsegv after some time. So I use nv now.
[17:43] <maniac> Is this only for me?
[17:43] <maniac> where should I report this bug? to linux kernel, or kde, or ubuntu?
[17:43] <jaymacdonald> It's something wrong with your side
[17:44] <jaymacdonald> It doesn't do that for anyone else, maniac.
[17:44] <flipstar> maniac: gutsy or hardy ?
[17:44] <maniac> I have done memtest86 and cpuburn. so hardware is ok.
[17:44] <maniac> flipstar: gusty 7.1
[17:44] <jaymacdonald> *7.10
[17:44] <maniac> y
[17:45] <flipstar> since when you have this ?
[17:45] <jaymacdonald> The release number corrsponds to the release date.
[17:45] <maniac> from very start.
[17:45] <maniac> it started with linuxdcpp crashing at start. and then, after some updates. it got worse
[17:46] <maniac> yesterday even kteatime crashed at start
[17:47] <flipstar> so with nv as driver you have no problems ?
[17:47] <maniac> much much less.
[17:47] <Arwen> f***
[17:47] <Arwen> fglrx is even slower than the open driver
[17:47] <Arwen> Kubuntu is just plain unusable...
[17:48] <maniac> Arwen: same here with nvidia
[17:48] <flipstar> hm i dont know what couses this .. but maybe you want to install the drivers from nvidias website ..
[17:48] <maniac> tried with envy. It is even worse than restricted.
[17:48] <Arwen> ack, my login screen is fubar, vsync is broken, opengl doesn't work, and xvideo looks crappy
[17:48] <Arwen> how much more broken can it get?
[17:49] <pat_> Hi all, I just installed gutsy on my laptop. It works great except my fonts are horrible. I've changed them in 'appearance' but no matter what ones I use, they are not clear like my desktop kubuntu. Any suggestions?
[17:49] <flipstar> maniac: maybe you want try these ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run
[17:50] <maniac> flipstar: It feels like dice roll...
[17:51] <maniac> flipstar: I have stdied manuals on ubuntu site, about this driver. And I still have nvidia-kernel-common installed.
[17:51] <Arwen> pat_, adjust the anti-aliasing option
[17:51] <flipstar> envy changes a lot of settings
[17:51] <mefisto__> pat_: antialiasing. in system settings > appearance > fonts, then click the "configure" button
[17:51] <maniac> flipstar: when I tell aptitude to unistall it, it says that it will also remove kubuntu desktop and so on.
[17:51] <pat_> Arwen: where do I do that?
[17:51] <flipstar> it blacklist some modules and so on
[17:52] <pat_> Arwen: k, I'll give that a go, thx, brb
[17:52] <flipstar> kubuntu-desktop is just a metafile
[17:52] <maniac> flipstar: I have checked - tothing is blacklisted. But should be "nv nvidia"
[17:52] <flipstar> i just wanted to say:i dont like envy
[17:52] <maniac> flipstar: I know that this is a metapackage. I mean aptitude offers me removing half of the system. Dependecies seem proken
[17:53] <maniac> flipstar: I dont like it now also.
[17:53] <maniac> but, restricted moudles crash also.
[17:53] <maniac> it seems to be broken xorg and/or linux kernel itself.
[17:53] <maniac> particularly "fork" syscall
[17:53] <flipstar> or configuration error ..
[17:54] <maniac> flipstar: I have not reconfigured it by hand. only the network.
[17:54] <Arwen> anyone know where I can get more support regarding fglrx?
[17:54] <flipstar> seems wired that you cant remove the nvidia-kernel-common..
[17:54] <maniac> 100%
[17:55] <flipstar> Arwen: google :)
[17:55] <Arwen> argh...............
[17:55] <maniac> I wanted to use ubuntu because it claims working "out of the box". I used plain "debian testing" for a year, and I never had any issues after I configured it.
[17:56] <maniac> Arwen: there are manuals for nvidia on ubuntuforums and ubuntu. google there for ATI.
[17:56] <Arwen> maniac, I don't need a manual, I need advice on repairs...
[17:56] <Arwen> though then again, I'm not sure how much can be done to fix it...
[17:57] <maniac> Arwen: repairs... hm. Never done anything similar.
[17:57] <Arwen> it doesn't work (tm) here
[17:59] <maniac> flipstar: http://pastebin.com/d51273c0b this is wahat aptitude says.
[18:00] <hagaff> servus
[18:00] <hagaff> frage was is des hier bin neu im kubuntu
[18:00] <hagaff> über was wird hier geredet
[18:00] <mefisto__> Arwen: maybe try googling your vidcard + gutsy. It worked for getting my ati card working well
[18:01] <genii> !de | hagaff
[18:01] <Arwen> um... it's running... just not working
[18:01] <ubotu> hagaff: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:01] <Arwen> so yeah..
[18:01] <flipstar> maniac: hm it claims restricted modules are broken oO
[18:01] <maniac> flipstar: they are :) at least they dont work.
[18:01] <hagaff> wie funktioniert des ubotu
[18:02] <flipstar> what happens if you try to remove them ?
[18:02] <hagaff> nur klicken oder
[18:02] <flipstar> hagaff: click on >< #kubuntu-de <<
[18:02] <hagaff> und dann los fragen
[18:02] <hagaff> ah ok
[18:03] <hagaff> danke
[18:03] <maniac> flipstar:  the same thing. It will remove metapackages.
[18:03] <flipstar> hm this is not good at all but you could reinstall them later ..
[18:03] <flipstar> or wait for things to get better ..
[18:05] <maniac> I will wait for 8.04. If it is same buggy. I will move back to debian or even gentoo
[18:05] <maniac> and fix bugs myself :(
[18:05] <flipstar> just try to update in a few
[18:05] <maniac> I am running latest set of packages.
[18:06] <flipstar> currently :)
[18:06] <maniac> I can reinstall this resticted stuff.
[18:06] <root__> maricos y putas todos
[18:06] <maniac> the latest of "ubuntu"
[18:06] <maniac> they are quite old.
[18:07] <maniac> for what reason have nut ups driver be so old with ubuntu?
[18:07] <flipstar> if i were you i would install nvidia drivers by myself ¦=]
[18:07]  * maniac dont like ubuntu update filosophy
[18:07] <maniac> flipstar: I dont want to do it. hey! this is ubuntu or not?
[18:08] <maniac> flipstar: If i install them myself, what is the point of ubuntu? I'd better use debian/
[18:08] <flipstar> linux is linux
[18:09] <maniac> yes. it is. just got more candy look
[18:10] <maniac> I have tried to use compiz with KDE. It was really flickering on startup.
[18:10] <flipstar> you also have kubuntu&ubuntu-desktop installed that might trouble some
[18:10] <maniac> thigs got broken before I installed "ubuntu-desktop"
[18:11] <maniac> I need both. I use KDE and wife uses Gnome.
[18:12] <flipstar> you could'nt use compiz ?
[18:13] <aris> ?
[18:13] <aris> hello
[18:13] <flipstar> hi
[18:13] <aris> i do have a question on kubuntu
[18:13] <flipstar> go on ..
[18:13] <aris> how i may run a deb file
[18:13] <flipstar> open it with gdebi
[18:13] <aris> i have downloaded skype for Linux
[18:14] <aris> where is gdebi?
[18:14] <flipstar> you might install gdebi before..
[18:14] <flipstar> search for it in adept
[18:14] <frank232> aris: can't you just click on it?
[18:14] <aris> yes i clikc on skype.deb
[18:14] <aris> but cannot run
[18:15] <flipstar> !info gdebi
[18:15] <ubotu> gdebi (source: gdebi): Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 220 kB
[18:15] <aris> can you tell me where to look for gdebi?
[18:15] <flipstar> search for it in adept or type sudo apt-get install gdebi
[18:15] <maniac> flipstar: I could use compiz. But it's initialization did not look good. And I dont see any use of it. And it caused problems for 3d games
[18:16] <frank232> aris: is there an error message?
[18:16] <frank232> aris: use adept to install gdebi-kde if it's not installed
[18:16] <maniac> aris: you can also run "dpgk -i skype-file-name.deb" from console. But gdebi-kde should be accessible with right click.
[18:17] <root__> dvgfghuil
[18:17] <flipstar> maniac: yes..if i dont start it at login it might flicker for a second..and framerate i little bit lower in 3d games, i agree
[18:17] <aris> the error message is that it opens with another program  ARK
[18:17] <flipstar> and btw i find it very usefull
[18:17] <psilocyde> could someone please help with my adept  package manager problem?
[18:17] <flipstar> aris: you need to install an program that can deal with that..like gdebi
[18:17] <psilocyde> adept lcoks up during the aply changes fase
[18:17] <psilocyde> *locks
[18:18] <aris> tell me what is adept?
[18:18] <frank232> aris: right-Click -> Open with -> Gdebi Package installer is not there?
[18:18] <flipstar> !adept | aris
[18:18] <ubotu> aris: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[18:18] <psilocyde> the adept package manager
[18:18] <maniac> adept - gui front end to apt
[18:18] <psilocyde> yes sorry
[18:18] <frank232> aris: K->System->Adept
[18:18] <genii> aris: Or Kbutton.. Add/Remove Programs
[18:18] <psilocyde> yes
[18:19] <psilocyde> both
[18:19] <maniac> aris: try with right click. You should be able to select gdebi instead of ark.
[18:19] <flipstar> gdebi is installed by default ?
[18:19] <maniac> was for me
[18:19] <aris> i opened adept...now what?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> what's the latest on browser ID using Konq on Gmail ?
[18:20] <maniac> BluesKaj:  mozilla 1.7.3 , but google reader still broken.
[18:20] <psilocyde> i have an update notification saying that i have 13 updated packages available
[18:20] <flipstar> aris: type gdebi
[18:20] <flipstar> or copy and paste it
[18:20] <psilocyde> i click on the systray icon and i get an error
[18:21] <flipstar> !error
[18:21] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[18:21] <maniac> psilocyde: whar error?
[18:21] <maniac> *what
[18:21] <psilocyde> - No command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command. -
[18:21] <aris> type gdebi at what location?
[18:21] <flipstar> aris: at the search field from adept
[18:21] <psilocyde> then i run anyway and i get a crash
[18:22] <psilocyde> i could pastbin
[18:22] <flipstar> aris: you can install there any software you might need if it is availible
[18:22] <aris> cannot find gdebi!
[18:22] <maniac> psilocyde: K -> System -> Adept Update Manager
[18:22] <frank232> aris: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[18:22] <genii> aris: gdebi-kde
[18:23] <flipstar> he probably uses the sources from installation..
[18:23] <Tonren> How can I stop ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 from being overwritten every time I restart?
[18:23] <aris> i do have 3.5.2
[18:23] <psilocyde> maniac: sorry i dont understand your instuction. Would you like me to past that in to a terminal?
[18:24] <frank232> aris: is that kubuntu 6.06 , 6.10?
[18:24] <maniac> psilocyde: past "sudo adept_updater"
[18:24] <psilocyde> ty will do
[18:25] <frank232> aris: anyways you probably need to use a terminal and  run    sudo dpkg -i skypepackagename.deb
[18:25] <maniac> aris: do it from konsole. just with "dpkg -i skypepackage.deb"
[18:26] <aris> ii try with terminal
[18:26] <genii> Tonren: Do you have "Restore Previous Session" checked in Kbutton..System Settings..Advanced... Session Management ?
[18:26]  * maniac went out
[18:26] <psilocyde> maniac: i get "Another process is using the packaging system database"
[18:27] <flipstar> and..is it ?
[18:27] <jinzougen> Hey, I like using aterm, but it doesn't render certain characters correctly, does anyone know how to fix it?
[18:27] <psilocyde> aww did i lose maniac?
[18:27] <jinzougen> Usually punctuation characters like `` and --
[18:27] <Tonren> genii: No, I think I restart with a blank session.
[18:27] <flipstar> psilocyde: if there is no other installer open try..
[18:27] <flipstar> !adeptfix
[18:27] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:27] <Tonren> genii: Restarting from previous session is too weird... I always get all sorts of programs opening up.
[18:29] <Tonren> genii: I'm really perplexed, because I can't figure out where this file keeps being overwritten from, or why.
[18:29] <psilocyde> i get
[18:29] <psilocyde> Kill process 5556 ? (y/N) y
[18:29] <psilocyde> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[18:29] <genii> Tonren: Well, you could always just make gtkrc readonly then and change owner to root or so
[18:30] <aris> i typed sudo -dpgk
[18:30] <Tonren> genii: Ooh.  That's a good idea.
[18:30] <flipstar> psilocyde: are you sure there is no process using it? try ctrl+esc and search for adept or synaptic ..
[18:30] <psilocyde> k ty
[18:31] <aris> i right clicked on skype and install the package ..
[18:31] <aris> but message is that missing package..
[18:31] <frank232> aris: did it work?\
[18:32] <flipstar> !skype | aris
[18:32] <ubotu> aris: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[18:33] <aris> ok...i try to read instructions..
[18:33] <aris> now how to run a bin file?
[18:34] <psilocyde> Flipstar: no instances of adept or synaptic.
[18:35] <flipstar> dpkg maybe ?
[18:35] <flipstar> hm then try again ..
[18:35] <psilocyde> try what then?
[18:35] <prince_jammys> !aptfix
[18:35] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:37] <psilocyde> ok now i get "Bus error (core dumped)"
[18:37] <flipstar> ¦ /
[18:38] <psilocyde> :(
[18:38] <prince_jammys> mmm
[18:38] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: you get that error after trying to use adept?
[18:39] <psilocyde> After "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" in terminal
[18:39] <aris> hello?
[18:40] <aris> bin file?
[18:40] <trappist> aris: usually sudo sh filename.bin
[18:41] <trappist> that makes some not-necessarily-valid assumptions about the actual file type
[18:41] <Waterstoff> err
[18:41] <Waterstoff> that makes a lot of really bad assumptions
[18:41] <Waterstoff> in fact, thats some pretty bad advice
[18:42] <trappist> now that you mention it... you're right
[18:42] <Waterstoff> 1) Don't use sudo unless you have good reason
[18:42] <flipstar> psilocyde: libncursesw5 is installed..?
[18:42] <Waterstoff> 2) Make the file executable and run the file, its a bin for a reason
[18:42] <Waterstoff> 3) sh files _usually_ end with .sh, not with .bin
[18:42] <psilocyde> flipstar: how do i verify that?
[18:43] <aris> trappist..i did it with the command but cannot execute binary file
[18:43] <flipstar> psilocyde: apt-cache show libncursesw5
[18:43] <flipstar> guess you cant use apt-get now..?
[18:43] <psilocyde> ty
[18:43] <trappist> aris: it's probably not even an executable file, so you don't *run* it.  did it come with a .cue file?
[18:44] <flipstar> err psilocyde sorry that was the wrong one..
[18:44] <trappist> aris: actually, let's start with this - do file <filename>
[18:44] <aris> trappist...it is RealPlayer10Gold.bin
[18:44] <Waterstoff> it is an executable file
[18:44] <flipstar> psilocyde: apt-cache policy libncursesw5
[18:45] <trappist> aris: are you maybe running a 64bit ubuntu?
[18:45] <Waterstoff> aris: chmod +x RealPlayer10Gold.bin; ./RealPlayer10Gold.bin
[18:45] <aris> trappist...-do no found
[18:45] <psilocyde> yes its there
[18:45] <trappist> aris: omit the "do" part.
[18:45] <flipstar> ..guess you cant use apt-get now to reinstall..?
[18:45] <psilocyde> i could try
[18:45] <flipstar> try apt-get --reinstall install libncursesw5
[18:46] <aris> i omit do part
[18:47] <aris> i need other thing
[18:48] <trappist> probably
[18:48] <psilocyde> http://pastebin.com/m759aa0d2
[18:48] <aris> fuck it...bin
[18:49] <trappist> !language
[18:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:49] <psilocyde> potty
[18:49] <aris> ubotu ...whereabouts?
[18:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whereabouts? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:50] <aris> yr location?
[18:50] <trappist> aris: ubotu is a bot.
[18:50] <Pici> !bot
[18:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:51] <aris> oohps
[18:51] <aris> trappist..tnxs for your advice..
[18:51] <psilocyde> flipstar: did you follow the pastebin link?
[18:51] <flipstar> yep..
[18:51] <psilocyde> oh ok
[18:52] <hagaff> wie komm ich zu dem kubunte.de
[18:52] <prince_jammys> !de | hagaff
[18:52] <ubotu> hagaff: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:52] <Waterstoff> It would appear that thats what his message was talking about
[18:57] <aris> >
[18:57] <aris> dsdfs
[18:57] <aris> fdsf
[18:58] <aris> hi
[18:58] <aris> fgfd
[18:58] <Waterstoff> don't spam.
[18:58] <aris> hello waterstoff
[18:59] <Arwen> !compiz
[18:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:59] <Piddy> Can someone help me with Kopete?
[18:59] <aris> what kopete?
[19:00] <nosrednaekim> whats wrog with it?
[19:00] <flipstar> aris: its an instant messaging program
[19:03] <aris> yes...flipstar..
[19:04] <aris> i extracted a gz file...
[19:04] <aris> now how to install?
[19:04] <dhq> i have a nvidia gfx card in my laptop   8600m gt
[19:04] <dhq> i need drivers
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[19:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:07] <flipstar> aris: what is in this package ?
[19:07] <aris> Firefox
[19:08] <nosrednaekim> aris» use "sudo apt-get install firefox" to install firefox
[19:08] <Dragnslcr> Firefox is in the repositories already
[19:08] <psilocyde> should i just reinstall?
[19:08] <storbeck> aris: cd folder -> ./configure -> make -> sudo make install
[19:08] <psilocyde> ive been working on this problem for 2 daqys
[19:09] <flipstar> psilocyde: aptitude ?
[19:09] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» for what?
[19:09] <psilocyde> no kubuntu
[19:09] <flipstar> oh..
[19:09] <psilocyde> ive been working on this problem for to days
[19:09] <storbeck> psilocyde: What's the problem?
[19:09] <flipstar> you could try to fix it from livecd ..
[19:09] <psilocyde> apt is broken or something
[19:09] <flipstar> here..>http://pastebin.com/m759aa0d2
[19:09] <aris> storbeck...i run it but message 'firefxo has no installation candidate
[19:09] <psilocyde> it wont comit any changes
[19:09] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» whats wrong with it?
[19:09] <psilocyde> locks
[19:10] <psilocyde> maybe flipstar could word it better than i
[19:10] <storbeck> aris, will you pastebin it?
[19:10] <psilocyde> it will download updates and software but it will not comit changes
[19:11] <nosrednaekim> aris» why are you installing rom a tarball? you can easily get it with apt.
[19:11] <Arwen> huh, compiz works
[19:11] <psilocyde> it wont install anything
[19:11] <aris> i run it from Terminal...
[19:12] <flipstar> nosrednaekim: & storbeck: http://pastebin.com/m759aa0d2 & http://pastebin.com/d51273c0b
[19:12] <psilocyde> everything you good people have told me to do to fix it dont resolve the problem
[19:12] <storbeck> !pastebin | aris
[19:12] <ubotu> aris: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:12] <aris> storbeck....there is a file ŕun-mozilla.sh' inside the firefox directory
[19:13] <storbeck> nosrednaekim: Does it do that with every package?
[19:13] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» does aptitude work?
[19:13] <psilocyde> no
[19:14] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» what is its error message?
[19:14] <flipstar> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[19:14] <psilocyde> yes
[19:14] <storbeck> nosrednaekim: Does dpkg work?
[19:15] <storbeck> err psilocyde *
[19:15] <psilocyde> no
[19:15] <storbeck> O_O?
[19:15] <psilocyde> it downloads but will not install
[19:15] <storbeck> dpkg, not apt-get
[19:15] <flipstar> psilocyde: maybe this will help..using the livecd..http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422523
[19:15] <psilocyde> ok
[19:15] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» what does "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" say?
[19:15] <storbeck> psilocyde: Re-install apt
[19:16] <storbeck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77658
[19:16] <richard> Does anyone know how to connect using remote desktop connection to a windows machine?
[19:16] <aris> storbeck..how to run the run mozilla.sh
[19:16] <psilocyde> ok
[19:16] <storbeck> aris: sh mozilla.sh
[19:16] <psilocyde> looking at those pages ty
[19:16] <storbeck> np
[19:17] <flipstar> psilocyde: wait a sec..what does dpkg say ?
[19:17] <psilocyde> command?
[19:17] <aris> storbekc...i tried sh mozilla.sh...no file or such directory
[19:18] <storbeck> aris, Then the file isn't called mozilla.sh XD
[19:18] <flipstar> see above..nosreds text
[19:18] <psilocyde> ok sorry
[19:18] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» there should be some packages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:19] <flipstar> aris: youre probably in the wrong directory but i REALLY would recommend you to install firefox via adept_manager
[19:19] <aris> storbeck ...why cannot find any installation file inside the Firefox directory?
[19:19] <storbeck> aris, type this: sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:19] <storbeck> That will install firefox for you. :]
[19:20] <psilocyde> "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" gives me "Bus error (core dumped)"
[19:21] <aris> storbeck..i opened adept manager and typed firefox in 'search' ...it returned
[19:21] <mefisto__> I think aris might not have sources.list set up right
[19:21] <aris> mozilla-firefox;ocale-en-gb  Status installed....is it done?
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» point it to a valid deb in /var/cache/apt/archives like so "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/somevalid.deb"
[19:22] <flipstar> aris: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[19:22] <storbeck> psilocyde: That means you have broken packages somewhere.
[19:22] <storbeck> During an install, it was interrupted.
[19:23] <storbeck> And I think it's beyond simple repair.
[19:23] <storbeck> Your best bet would be to re-install.
[19:23] <psilocyde> kubuntu?
[19:23] <storbeck> Yes
[19:24] <psilocyde> ah ok
[19:24] <storbeck> If you can't run dpkg, aptitude, or apt-get
[19:24] <psilocyde> sigh
[19:24] <aris> how to locate version of Kubuntu I use?
[19:24] <flipstar> psilocyde: please first follow nosreds instructions ..
[19:24] <storbeck> You're pretty foobar'd
[19:24] <flipstar> storbeck: you still could use the live cd to reinstall that
[19:25] <storbeck> aris: lsb_release -a
[19:25] <mefisto__> what does the lsb stand for?
[19:25] <storbeck> flipstar: It's possible. I don't know if it would work though.
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> Linux standard base
[19:26] <aris> i have Ubuntu Release 6.06...tnxs
[19:27] <flipstar> you could also use cat /etc/*release ..
[19:29] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdmtheme_1.2.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb
[19:29] <psilocyde> Bus error (core dumped)
[19:29] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$
[19:29] <beautifulsnow> Wondering if someone can help me with Wine, (yes I know there's a channel but its dormant :( )  My exe's don't run, and when I try to set up drives through config, I get "err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes   unable to define devicename of ...."  so when I come back and try again there are no drives... :-/
[19:29] <trappist> psilocyde: sounds like a hardware issue
[19:29] <psilocyde> really
[19:30] <flipstar> no
[19:30] <psilocyde> how so
[19:30] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» there should be a core dump in the current directory... pastebin the contents
[19:30] <flipstar> oh, thats what core dumped mean :)
[19:31] <psilocyde> sorry?
[19:31] <flipstar> there should be a text file..called coredump or similar..
[19:31] <flipstar> upload the content to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[19:31] <trappist> core.* where * is the pid of the process that core dumped
[19:32] <limbeaux> Is there a service in kubuntu that will do desktop sharing.  eg vnc  that will run as a service?
[19:33] <nosrednaekim> try krdc
[19:33] <limbeaux> one service i found krdb whatever it was required that a dialog box be clicked to accept the incoming connection
[19:33] <flipstar> ehm krdc is the client.. limbeaux try krfb..
[19:34] <psilocyde> "/var/cache/apt/archives/" only has one text file. Its empty and labled "lock"
[19:34] <flipstar> psilocyde: try search in your current dir
[19:35] <psilocyde> how?
[19:35] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» lol...ok, download a deb...
[19:35] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: li
[19:35] <prince_jammys> ls
[19:35] <psilocyde> haha newbies are funny with there ignorances! : D
[19:36] <bioss> hello
[19:36] <nosrednaekim> hey bioss
[19:37] <bioss> anyone really good on excel 2007
[19:37] <bioss> and acces
[19:37] <flipstar> psilocyde: if you have no .deb on you pc you might try this one.. http://www.getdeb.net/download/2244/0
[19:37] <bioss> shout out to teekteen
[19:39] <trappist> bioss: wrong channel dude
[19:39] <Pici> bioss: Try ##windows
[19:39] <bioss> importing data from excel to acces with if condition , the problem lies in getting the data to acces erasing the blank spaces or blank colums (using wine of course)
[19:39] <psilocyde> i have many .debs.  When i do "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/Any one of those .deb files I get the error "Bus error (core dumped)"
[19:40] <psilocyde> there is no dump file in said directory
[19:40] <prince_jammys> is there a dump file in the directory you are currently in?
[19:41] <psilocyde> not that i can see
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> psilocyde» see if there is one in /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:41] <flipstar> ls -al |grep dump
[19:41] <prince_jammys> ls -al *dump
[19:42] <ubuntu_> salut !
[19:42] <prince_jammys> salut
[19:42] <jpatrick> !fr | ubuntu_
[19:42] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:42] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ ls -al *dump
[19:42] <psilocyde> ls: *dump: No such file or directory
[19:42] <jimmy51_office> hello, does anyone know a rough release of the next major kubuntu version?
[19:43] <coggz> hi, need some help with a acer laptop with ati graphics
[19:43] <PcMaX> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643500+ at 2629 MHz (5264 bogomips), , RAM: 807/1005MB, 116 proc's, 16.21min up
[19:43] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: then there aint no file that ends in dump
[19:43] <coggz> the boot screen does not show and it takes ages to load
[19:43] <psilocyde> ok
[19:44] <psilocyde> ok then ill reinstall the OS
[19:45] <psilocyde> thanks for the help folks
[19:45] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: try google before you do that
[19:45] <psilocyde> google what?
[19:45] <psilocyde> you dont think i have?
[19:45] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: google  :  ubuntu install .deb "core dumped"
[19:45] <flipstar> this here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422523 might help
[19:45] <prince_jammys> psilocyde: i have no way of knowing what you have already done
[19:45] <flipstar> takes less then reinstall i guess
[19:45] <psilocyde> i sorry i know
[19:46] <psilocyde> im frustrated
[19:46] <mefisto__> computer problems feed on frustration
[19:47] <coggz> any ideas on the acer?
[19:47] <MasseR> After the latest update (kubuntu) kaffeine stopped working with dvb
[19:48] <MasseR> now it freezes every time I try to select digital tv
[19:49] <mefisto__> MasseR: is this the update that removes kaffeine-xine ?
[19:49] <MasseR> Yep
[19:49] <coggz> ok, fine, need help with my wireless. It does not connect through knetwork manager or kwifi, but can detect networks when done in console
[19:50] <psilocyde> ok thanks again folks will try the repair from live cd
[19:50] <psilocyde> ill be back
[19:50] <psilocyde> count on it
[19:50] <psilocyde> take care
[19:50] <flipstar> good luck
[19:50] <psilocyde> thanks
[19:50] <MasseR> mefisto__: I tried to install it back but it complained about breaking
[19:52] <mefisto__> MasseR: I suppose you would have to revert to 0.8.5 to have kaffeine-xine installed
[19:54] <libben> does wubi works properly? Just wanna check it out from windows and try some settings.
[19:54] <coggz> why does nobody answer me!
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> libben» I think it does
[19:55] <libben> can i choose on wich hd it stores the file to?
[19:55] <libben> so it doesnt clams up my c: ?
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> libben» never having used it...i'm not sure
[19:56] <MasseR> mefisto__: How do I do that
[19:56] <flipstar> is there an alternative for cron ?
[19:56] <coggz> nosrednaekim: u any good with wireless
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> coggz» when i'm not busy, yes ;-)
[19:57] <coggz> nosrednaekim: ok then,
[19:57] <libben> is wubi shipped in alpha 5 ? or do i need to download wubi as standalone app ?
[19:57] <nosrednaekim> libben» I think its shipped with alpha 5
[19:58] <flipstar> !info wubi hardy ... seems like not
[19:58] <ubotu> Package wubi does not exist in hardy
[19:58] <libben> why not ?
[19:59] <libben> wich version does it exist in then ? =)
[19:59] <DaSkreech> Imaginay Iguana
[19:59] <flipstar> the packet is called <wubi> ?
[20:00] <libben> i can see wubi here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha5/Kubuntu
[20:01] <flipstar> ....wubi is an windows installer...
[20:01] <DaSkreech> but thats for windows!! ^_^
[20:01] <flipstar> so it is on dvd .. not in the repos
[20:01] <DaSkreech> ATE IS N
[20:02] <flipstar> btw for what do you need such things oO
[20:02] <Arwen> help with compiz please. The taskbar shows every single window on every viewport. Can I get it to only show the current one?
[20:02] <DaSkreech> apt-get install frontpage  0_0
[20:05] <prince_jammys> Arwen: i had this problem when i had compiz installed and remember searching the web and having no luck
[20:06] <prince_jammys> Arwen: eventually i stumbled into "it can't be done", but maybe that's wrong.  have you tried the taskbar settings?
[20:06] <Arwen> taskbar settings?
[20:06] <Arwen> in KDE?
[20:06] <prince_jammys> yeah
[20:07] <Arwen> oh cool, there's a patched taskbar that's compiz-aware
[20:07] <Arwen> never mind, yay!
[20:08] <mefisto__> MasseR: I think it's something like "apt-get install kaffeine=version.you.want.installed" but check man apt-get, I may be wrong
[20:08] <frank232> Arwen: by the time Kde 4.1 is released, kwin should have decent compositing
[20:08] <Arwen> screw KDE4
[20:08] <flipstar> err kde4.01
[20:09] <Arwen> 4.01 is already oit
[20:09] <Arwen> out* and it still sucks
[20:09] <flipstar> 4.1 will be released in few months
[20:09] <DaSkreech> it's not old enough yet for that
[20:10] <Arwen> more importantly, gah the shadow effect in compiz is irritating. I liked the old gradient better.
[20:10] <flipstar> Arwen: study ccsm ¦-)
[20:10] <anto> kubuntu france
[20:10] <anto> fr
[20:10] <prince_jammys> yeah it's probably in there in one the five hundred options
[20:11] <prince_jammys> !fr
[20:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:11] <Arwen> yeah, searching for drop shadows..
[20:11] <Eirikeb> Ive tried googling this, but is there some kind of recomended partition system for a fileserver?
[20:11] <Arwen> yeah, use a functional one
[20:12] <flipstar> jfs maybe
[20:12] <Arwen> oh, turning off reflections did the trick
[20:12] <Arwen> Eirikeb, use a reliable one like ext
[20:12] <Arwen> instead of a "fast" one like reiser
[20:12] <flipstar> reiser is better for small files..
[20:13] <Arwen> correction: for LOTS of small files
[20:13] <flipstar> ext3 is better for general..
[20:13] <flipstar> jfs for servers
[20:13] <llutz> xfs better for bigger files (video etc)
[20:13] <flipstar> note:my opinion
[20:13] <Arwen> !compiz > kubuntu
[20:13] <Waterstoff> yes
[20:13] <Arwen> !compiz > Arwen
[20:13] <Waterstoff> note that this is all opinion
[20:13] <llutz> so use ZFS, and solaris of course ;)
[20:13] <Arwen> hehe
[20:14] <flipstar> or wait for ext4 :)
[20:14] <Waterstoff> unless your a crazy ricer that sits in front of your computer with a stopwatch that has millisecond precision, you most likely will not notice a difference
[20:14] <Waterstoff> between any
[20:14] <llutz> Waterstoff: on a heavy loaded fileserver you'll see the differences very quick
[20:15] <flipstar> yep also on the root partition..(there many small files)
[20:15] <Waterstoff> maybe on a true fileserver.. not much where else
[20:15] <limbeaux> i dont think krfb can be configured to run as a service and accept request.
[20:15] <flipstar> krfb can autoaccept
[20:16] <llutz> Waterstoff: we talked about fileserver
[20:16] <flipstar> but run as service..maybe copying to /etc/init.d ..but guess not
[20:17] <limbeaux> yeah, i will just have to figure out how to set up vnc
[20:18] <flipstar> limbeaux: you could use other proggys than krfb..
[20:18] <flipstar> like x11vnc
[20:18] <limbeaux> any with a gui?  i am intermidate at best with kde/linux
[20:18] <flipstar> no it doesnt have a gui
[20:19] <flipstar> no interaction required
[20:20] <flipstar> of course you should run it with x11vnc --passwd <password> else it run without a pass(!!)
[20:21] <flipstar> then you could add this to autostart..thats it
[20:22] <limbeaux> hmm ok
[20:25] <crashed> Third time trying to setup my SAA7134 TV capture driver.
[20:28] <crashed> I always forget what configuration I use. Anyone know how to setup a LifeView SAA7130/SAA7134 TV tuner?
[20:28] <coggz> anyone able to fix wireless
[20:29] <coggz> anyone?
[20:29] <flipstar> !wireless
[20:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:30] <Jewsus> can someone look @ this site in KDE and tell me if it looks busted: http://www.decay.nu
[20:30] <Jewsus> i mean Konqueror, sorry
[20:31] <flipstar> loooks okay here..
[20:31] <frank232> Jewsus: looks ok
[20:31] <Jewsus> flipstar: frank23: thanks. I looked it in firefox 3 beta last night under gnome and it was crazy broken
[20:31] <Jewsus> thanks again
[20:31] <BluesKaj> crashed:  what app are you using with it , tvtime or xawtv or... ?
[20:31] <crashed> tvtime.
[20:31] <frank232> Jewsus: is the wrench at the bottom supposed to do anyhting?
[20:32] <Jewsus> yea, if clicked it's supposed to slide down
[20:32] <crashed> I go through two days of hell everytime I try setting up my tv tuner, and I eventually get it.
[20:32] <crashed> But for some reason it's taking me longer than usuall this time.
[20:33] <frank232> Jewsus: it does nothing when i click the wrench at the bottom
[20:33] <frank232> Jewsus: in konqueror
[20:33] <Jewsus> frank232: does it show any error messages? (i don't use konq so id ont know if it has a js console)
[20:34] <frank232> Jewsus: no it does nothing at all
[20:34] <frank232> Jewsus: i just checked with firefox to see what it was supposed to do
[20:34] <crashed> I know what tuner I use, but I don't know specifically what card. :/
[20:35] <Jewsus> aw =(. thanks frank232. I'm at work now so i'll have to look into this later. thanks again
[20:35] <trappist> crashed: same with me when I set up a tuner :/
[20:37] <flipstar> is there an alternative to cron ?
[20:38] <frank232> Heh.. I just had to plug in my tv tuner and it worked. I bought it knowing it was for linux
[20:38] <DaSkreech> flipstar: A really tight calendar schedule?
[20:38] <trappist> flipstar: there are other things to use instead of cron if you want different functionality, but cron is pretty much what you want to use for regularly scheduled tasks
[20:38] <mefisto__> Jewsus: I just looked at that page with firefox3 beta and it looks fine
[20:38] <flipstar> it just have to run like every 5 minutes..
[20:39] <Jewsus> mefisto__: then it must be something in gnome
[20:39] <llutz> flipstar: why not cron?
[20:39] <Jewsus> weird.... thanks though =]
[20:39] <flipstar> problems at startup with hardy..
[20:39] <Jewsus> im surprised konqueror doesn't have a js console
[20:39] <flipstar> doesnt start..
[20:39] <llutz> flipstar: hardy... alpha... no comment
[20:39]  * trappist backspaces
[20:39] <flipstar> im just asking for an alternative ..
[20:40] <flipstar> guess it is my bad anyway i uninstalled some packages :/
[20:40] <Jewsus> well....you can do stuff manually :)
[20:40] <flipstar> err every 5 minutes type a command in konsole .. ?
[20:40] <flipstar> no thanks :)
[20:41] <crashed> 5404064540050606050500
[20:41] <Jewsus> it -is- an alternative. didn't say anything about it being a good on e :p
[20:41] <crashed> 05605050504040504505a0c0k454
[20:41] <llutz> flipstar: bash / while / sleep :)
[20:41] <flipstar> llutz: can you explain this a little deeper..?
[20:42] <llutz> flipstar: write a bash-script with a while-loop and use sleep to wait for xxx minutes (man bash tells you how)
[20:42] <Jewsus> llutz: but im sure he'll use different commands
[20:43] <Jewsus> maybe he can put them in an array
[20:43] <flipstar> no just one simple command..
[20:43] <trappist> flipstar: while true; do somecommand;sleep $((60*5));done
[20:43] <flipstar> thanks all :)
[20:44] <Jewsus> then you have to make it start automatically on startup
[20:44] <crashed> I just went through a bunch of card/tuner combinations and I can't get it :(
[20:44] <DaSkreech> Jewsus: Source it in your bashrc file :)
[20:45] <Jewsus> shazam
[20:45] <flipstar> yes..problem is i have to run it as root..
[20:45] <Jewsus> not shazam
[20:45] <llutz> put it into  /etc/rc.local
[20:46] <flipstar> hah great! :)
[20:46] <crashed> Hm, it's not good if modprobe saa7134 -v doesn't output anything?
[20:46] <llutz> crashed: means no error
[20:49] <crashed> I really don't know what to do anymore to setup this tvtuner.
[20:49] <crashed> Can anyone shed some light?
[20:52] <coggz> having trouble with wireless will anyone help?
[20:52] <DaSkreech> !tv
[20:52] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[20:53] <DaSkreech> ^_^
[20:53] <Arwen> can anyone tell me what the point of the "draw fire on the screen" compiz plugin is?
[20:53] <Arwen> :-)
[20:54] <flipstar> press shift+super and find out with mouse :P
[20:54] <flipstar> clear screen with shift+super+c
[20:54] <Arwen> I wasn't asking what it did
[20:54] <Arwen> I asked WHY
[20:54] <crashed> Feels like I've tried everything already.
[20:55] <flipstar> just fun i guess
[20:55] <flipstar> alternative for drawing
[20:55] <tekteen> Arwen: there is no point to compiz at all :-)
[20:55] <dogma_> !fr
[20:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:55] <flipstar> the cube is very useful :)
[20:55] <tekteen> Arwen: it is another feature
[20:56] <Daisuke_Ido> how would i see what processes are hogging a device?  /dev/dsp to be exact
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> Daisuke_Ido: top, ps, fuser /dev/dsp
[20:57] <flipstar> Arwen: maybe its for scaring people..
[20:58] <Arwen> the cube is actually kind of pointless. much slower than just sliding desktops
[20:58] <DaSkreech> Arwen: Helps people visualise the desktops
[20:58] <flipstar> yes but it has a nice shortcut you can use while working..
[20:58] <DaSkreech> Arwen: I can do that in KDE with different wallpapers but it's much harder in Gnome
[20:59] <Daisuke_Ido> blech :\
[20:59] <Daisuke_Ido> open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[20:59]  * Daisuke_Ido grumbles
[20:59] <Arwen> stop using OSS :-P
[20:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: it's all UT supports
[21:00] <Arwen> 8fps with cube. That can't be good.
[21:00] <fragmede> Daisuke_Ido: try lsof /dev/dsp ?
[21:00] <flipstar> where do you see an fps on the desktop ?
[21:00] <Daisuke_Ido> fragmede: nothing -_-
[21:00] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, turn off anything else playing sound?
[21:02] <fragmede> whats the output of "ls -l /dev/dsp;groups"
[21:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: everything else is shut down
[21:02] <yuji__> how can I start a program from the shell w/o it being linked to it? (eg from konsole > kate example.txt) and be able to use the shell still?
[21:03] <Daisuke_Ido> alexbe01 adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[21:03] <jhutchins_wk> yuji__: kate example.txt &
[21:03] <yuji__> thank you very much!
[21:03] <jhutchins_wk> yuji__: That says "run in background", which will work for gui apps.
[21:03] <jhutchins_wk> yuji__: See also screen, which will give you multiple sessions per console.
[21:03] <fragmede> hm, so it's not a permissions problem
[21:03] <Konner> ahhhh
[21:03] <Konner> i need help
[21:04] <Konner> help =[
[21:04] <DaSkreech> !ask
[21:04] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:04] <Konner> Ok
[21:06] <yuji__> jhutchkins_wk: "See also screen?" the little tab at the bottom left?
[21:06] <Konner> Kubuntu was working earlyer so i log onto windows for a bit since shockwave wont work on linux i try loging back onto linux it acts like its starting after the bar is filled with the blue it goes to text saying Konner@desktop login and it doesnt take me to anything
[21:06] <Konner> like it has a system error
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> Konner» are you botting recovery mode?
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> *booting
[21:07] <Konner> No.
[21:07] <coggz> please help with wireless
[21:07] <Konner> I booted to the right one
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> Konner» if not, run the following command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[21:07] <Konner> recovery wont even boot
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> coggz» ok.. whats the problem ?
[21:08] <coggz> my wireless card detects networks, but cannot connect
[21:08] <fragmede> Daisuke_Ido: try "aoss /path/to/program"?
[21:08] <fragmede> (you might need the alsa-oss package)
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> coggz» is the AP encrypted?
[21:09] <coggz> yes
[21:10] <coggz> it works normally, but i hibernated and now it doesn't
[21:10] <Konner> so do i say sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> Konner» upper
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> *yep
[21:10] <Konner> ok
[21:10] <Konner> ill brb if i havr a problem
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> coggz» ah.... run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[21:12] <jhutchins_wk> !info screen
[21:12] <coggz> hmm, says my battery has been removed
[21:12] <Daisuke_Ido> well, it started with sound.
[21:12] <ubotu> screen (source: screen): a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB
[21:12] <Daisuke_Ido> then segfaulted :(
[21:13] <DaSkreech> !info glob2 hardy
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> yuji__: That "screen".
[21:13] <ubotu> glob2 (source: glob2): innovative state-of-the-art Real Time Strategy (RTS) game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.23-1 (hardy), package size 938 kB, installed size 2492 kB
[21:13] <DaSkreech> !info kubuntu-desktop intrepid
[21:13] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.59 (gutsy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[21:14] <coggz> gonna reboot, brb
[21:15] <konner> yay it worked
[21:15] <konner> i can boot up into linux again
[21:15] <crashed> Man, I really can't get this tv tuner working, :(
[21:16] <BanTam> you broke it already konner ?
[21:16] <BanTam> :)
[21:16] <konner> yes
[21:16] <konner> x]
[21:16] <konner> i got it fixed again
[21:16] <BanTam> been there done that
[21:16] <BanTam> i just did a fresh install myself
[21:17] <konner> all i did was log off linux and go back and it messed up
[21:17] <konner> xD
[21:17] <BanTam> from all my tinkering around
[21:17] <konner> I did hear Kubuntu isnt very stable. O_o but its the coolest looking one out of them all
[21:17] <konner> thats why im using it
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> konner» great :)
[21:17] <DaSkreech> after a while re-installing will feel like an insult :)
[21:18] <konner> I just dont want to go through setting up the internet again
[21:18] <konner> -.-'
[21:18] <BanTam> i have now probs or complaints..except for adept package manager
[21:18] <DaSkreech> BanTam: What about it?
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> BanTam» just use synaptic like alot of use do ;)
[21:18] <konner> xD im trying to get the windows version of mozilla firefox to work so i can use shockwave x]
[21:19] <BanTam> well when i do an upgrade with it, it gives an error halfway through the upgrade and stops
[21:19] <BanTam> EVERY time
[21:19] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[21:19] <DaSkreech> Gutsy?
[21:19] <BanTam> every time ive done a fresh install and trid to use adept to upgrade i get the same error
[21:19] <BanTam> yes
[21:19] <BanTam> so now i just upgrade with apt
[21:19] <konner> So i can upgrade to synaptic for kubuntu?
[21:20] <konner> xD
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> konner» sure..."sudo apt-get install synaptic
[21:20] <konner> yay
[21:20] <konner> k
[21:20] <konner> one second
[21:21] <konner> that didnt work
[21:21] <konner> =[
[21:21] <konner> says
[21:21] <nordisk> god day
[21:21] <konner> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[21:21] <nordisk> waths the best sql database
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> konner» you on gutsy?
[21:21] <Arwen> hmm, compiz using free radeon drivers is highly, well, cpu-intensive
[21:21] <konner> yeah gusty
[21:22] <MrJoey> Is there a way to reinstall the supplementary drivers that are removed at installation for the destination computer?
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» :)
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> konner» run "sudo apt-get update"first then
[21:22] <trappist> nordisk: if there was a "best" there would probably only be one.  depends on what you need out of an rdbms.
[21:22] <Arwen> yay 4 software rendering
[21:22] <Arwen> it's actually pretty fast considering...
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> MrJoey» uhhh run that by us again... is abit more down-to-earth language?
[21:22] <konner> Ok i ran that
[21:22] <MrJoey> I'm using a USB hard drive to run Kubuntu on my computer, but I can't get it to boot on another computer using the same bootstrap CD
[21:22] <DaSkreech> nordisk: Depends on the purpose
[21:23] <MrJoey> If you get rid of "using the same bootstrap CD" from my last sentence, then it is down-to-earth :)
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> MrJoey» ah!.... well that would depend if the device is refered to byt he same grub/disc ID I would think
[21:23] <DaSkreech> MrJoey: You have a initrd file I think
[21:23] <DaSkreech> Oh that too
[21:23] <MrJoey> My initrd file is both on a CD and on the hard drive
[21:24] <BanTam> whats better to use, performance wise? fglrx driver or ati?
[21:24] <MrJoey> I can bootstrap by using the CD with root=/dev/sdc4 set as a kernel parameter
[21:24] <konner> What do i do after sudo apt-get update
[21:24] <trappist> konner: usually, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:24] <coggz> hi, still no wireless
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> MrJoey» but what if when you move to another computer, the USB disc becomes sdb4?
[21:24] <MrJoey> "fglrx driver or ati?" ==> Well, I don't think nonfunctionality is very good performance-wise :)  (I've had no luck with fglrx, but then again, I don't try much)
[21:25] <MrJoey> Very good point!
[21:25] <MrJoey> Why didn't I think of that?
[21:25] <crashed> nosrednaekim: would you remember what I did to configure this TV tuner properly?
[21:25] <MrJoey> I have an sda and an sdb (2 hard drives)
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> crashed» I don't recall you ever getting it working
[21:25] <MrJoey> the computer I was booting to has only 1
[21:25] <Arwen> BanTam, fglrx is faster, but they're both kind of slow
[21:25] <crashed> I got it working three different times.
[21:25] <crashed> And I can't get it working this time.
[21:25] <MrJoey> I was thinking maybe the USB driver starts at sdc anyway
[21:25] <BanTam> ok thanks
[21:26] <MrJoey> But I ought to try the sdb
[21:26] <DaSkreech> crashed: Documentation is great :)
[21:26] <crashed> Docs haven't helped :P
[21:26] <BanTam> btw i was able to get randr working but when i rebooted it all went away
[21:26] <BanTam> im gong to stick with xinerama for now
[21:26] <BanTam> lol
[21:26] <crashed> I remember finding the right configuration and/or installation on some webpage, but I can't find that webpage anymore.
[21:26] <konner> xD
[21:26] <konner> cant find my kubuntu cd
[21:26] <konner> i need to mark it
[21:26] <BanTam> i got 2 just in case
[21:26] <konner> found it
[21:26] <konner> x]
[21:26] <MrJoey> As for the fglrx, you can try it, but you will lose 3D rendering from the standard "ati" or "radeon" driver due to some problem.  You have to uninstall fglrx to get it back to normal, not just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:26] <flipstar> https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> MrJoey» better yet, I think you can tell it to set root by UUID
[21:27] <BanTam> well thats another story, with xinerama i cant get 3d on BOTH monitors
[21:28] <tr3ei> hi
[21:28] <tr3ei> i have a problem with pppoeconf ... it doesn't work :|.... so i can't connect to the internet using ubuntu :|... any other options ... other than pppoeconf ?  >> http://www.imagebam.com/image/25d32a3066638/
[21:28] <tr3ei> can someone help me with this... ?
[21:29] <crashed> I'm pretty sure I nailed my card and tuner down to 2/2.
[21:29] <crashed> But still tvtime won't work.
[21:29] <Daisuke_Ido> tr3ei: tried kppp?
[21:30] <tr3ei> hm... no. This is for kubuntu only?
[21:30] <DaSkreech> crashed: I meant when you get something working esp after it took you a while. Document it cause you will do it again at some time in the future
[21:30] <crashed> Yeah, I should've written it down somewhere.
[21:30] <Daisuke_Ido> aren't you using kubuntu?
[21:30] <MrJoey> MrJoey» better yet, I think you can tell it to set root by UUID ==> How would I find the UUID of that other hard drive?
[21:30] <konner> Ok just to be safe i went to ship it and ordered me 2 kubuntu CDs and 2 ubuntu CDs
[21:31] <crashed> But if I know what card number and what tuner number, what could be causing the problems?
[21:31] <tr3ei> or it works with ubuntu too ? Because i have the same problem with ubuntu. I've even tried ubuntu/kubuntu 8.04 and i've got the same result
[21:31] <MrJoey> Where is the actual UUID specified?
[21:31] <MrJoey> Is it randomly generated and put somewhere, or is it part of the hard drive that never changes?
[21:31] <Daisuke_Ido> nevermind, kppp won't help, that's ppp, not pppoe
[21:31] <MrJoey> sort of like a MAC address
[21:31] <flipstar> MrJoey: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -al
[21:31] <jhutchins_wk> Daisuke_Ido: pppoe is still ppp.
[21:32] <flipstar> MrJoey: it get generated only once in an os
[21:32] <Ayabara> what's the default image viewer in kubuntu?
[21:32] <flipstar> if you reinstall you'll get another one
[21:32] <flipstar> gwenview
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> !UUID
[21:32] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[21:32] <MrJoey> Then I won't be able to use that, though thanks for the information
[21:32] <flipstar> but qiv is much faster :)
[21:32] <konner> Ok i need some more help with instaling synaptic
[21:33] <trappist> flipstar: when you reinstall what, exactly
[21:33] <MrJoey> The computers I'll be trying to boot have messed up Windows installations on them.  I'm reimaging them with Windows (they're not my computers, don't blame me :) )
[21:33] <tr3ei> i've tried to run pppoeconf for eth0 or eth0:avahi only... and this way it asks me the user and the pass... but at the end... it still doesn't work :|
[21:33] <tr3ei> http://www.imagebam.com/image/4dd6383066636/
[21:33] <trappist> flipstar: the uuid doesn't change
[21:34] <konner> Can someone help me install Synaptic on Kubuntu =]
[21:34] <flipstar> MrJoey: as long as the os is the same the uuid does not change
[21:34] <DaSkreech> konner: open adept and search for synaptic
[21:34] <flipstar> trappist: even not on reinstallling the os ?
[21:34] <flipstar> guess yes
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> konner» "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[21:35] <trappist> flipstar: the os is pretty much a collection of packages - when you install, /etc/fstab gets written, with the uuids of your partitions, but those uuids don't change unless the drives/partitions change
[21:35] <konner> i tried apt-get
[21:35] <konner> it says no packafe
[21:35] <konner> package
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> konner» after trying an aupt-get update?
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> *apt-get
[21:36] <flipstar> trappist: so the uuid is written into an file..
[21:36] <flipstar> when i reinstall all files are usally gone..
[21:36] <konner> i tried that
[21:36] <konner> all it does is say
[21:36] <MrJoey> How would I go about doing this:  In the best case scenario, I want to make a respin of Kubuntu so as to add a menu entry to the boot.  This menu entry will go to the single user level and launch a custom script.  If the script fails, it will drop to the single user level command line.
[21:36] <mefisto__> you can regenerate a new uuid and/or set a uuid for a device. I did it a few months ago to replace hard disk and use the same uuid on the new one. but I can't remember the commands.
[21:36]  * crashed sighs.
[21:36] <konner> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> konner» pastebin your "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:37] <konner> k
[21:37] <trappist> flipstar: if you reinstall from scratch, you're creating new partitions... btw I'm still reading about this, and I'm not 100% sure I'm right...
[21:37] <flipstar> synaptic is in main ..
[21:37] <flipstar> not nessesary..
[21:37] <crashed> gonna trash linux if this doesn't work.
[21:37] <konner> How do i open sources.list on kubuntu
[21:37] <konner> gedit wont work
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> flipstar» which is what makes this odd
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> konner» kate
[21:38] <konner> !pastebin
[21:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:38] <flipstar> crashed: you tried google ? with exact card name and so ?
[21:39] <konner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57614/
[21:39] <flipstar> trappist: you can get two different uuids from two os's for the same drive ..
[21:39] <crashed> flipstar: i've tried google so much that no matter what I search, I'll get results that I've already read.
[21:40] <flipstar> oh
[21:40] <flipstar> buy'd a new card ?
[21:40] <crashed> I had this one working not long ago.
[21:40] <crashed> I found the saviour of the configuration on a webpage, and I can't remember where that page was.
[21:40] <flipstar> btw uuidgen can generate new uuid's
[21:40] <DaSkreech> konner: You have adept open/
[21:41] <konner> nope adept isnt open
[21:41] <flipstar> crashed:  thats dammed :/
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> konner» just like I thought.......rease all of the first level comment marks
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> *erase
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> konner» wait.. don't do that... never mind
[21:41] <konner> ok XD
[21:42] <konner> i didnt know what you ment anyways
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> konner» go into adept_manager->adept->manage repositories and check them all off
[21:42] <flipstar> crashed: if you got a generell idea it might help to use the "site: blah.com" command on google..
[21:42] <crashed> flipstar: I haven't got the faintest clue.
[21:42] <flipstar> how is your card called ?
[21:43] <crashed> I just remember googling a bunch of 'saa7130 kubuntu help' -- something like that and eventually finding it.
[21:43] <flipstar> i'll try
[21:43] <crashed> All I know is that it's a LifeView card.
[21:43] <crashed> SAA7130/SAA7134 chipset.
[21:43] <crashed> One of the two.
[21:43] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: yeah it's a lot easier :)
[21:43] <crashed> Lower-end PCI LifeView card.
[21:43] <crashed> I'm rather certain it's #2 card, and #2 tuner.
[21:43] <DaSkreech> konner: alt+space -> type adept -> press enter :)
[21:43] <konner> i got adept done
[21:43] <konner> x]
[21:44] <konner> i checked them off
[21:44] <DaSkreech> konner: It should ask you to reload when you close the dialog
[21:44] <konner> it did
[21:44] <crashed> Now that I think of it the solution was probably on ubuntuforums.org
[21:44] <DaSkreech> Search for synaptic
[21:45] <sam64> Back in Breezy Badger I remember setting Konqueror to organize numbers in chronological order, rather than alphabetical. Now I can't remember how..
[21:45] <ufuntu> hello, could anyone help me pls to make the connection between bibus and openoffice? thanx in advance
[21:45] <DaSkreech> ufuntu: bibus ?
[21:45] <konner> Ok what do i do now.
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> konner» push the reload button
[21:46] <DaSkreech> konner: right click and install then click apply
[21:46] <flipstar> crashed: btw what does kdetv or tvtime poste for an error ?
[21:46] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: did that already :)
[21:46] <konner> i pressed reload
[21:46] <konner> i pressed reload 5 minutes ago
[21:46] <konner> x]
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech» bleh,.. i'm REALLY slow today :)
[21:46] <crashed> flipstar: no errors.
[21:47] <crashed> But there's no video.
[21:47] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: Getting old there :)
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech» at 17?I hope not :)
[21:47] <DaSkreech> Ooooolllld
[21:48] <flipstar> crashed: audio ?
[21:48] <crashed> None
[21:49] <flipstar> hm does they show your card or something ?
[21:49] <flipstar> is it correct right
[21:49] <flipstar> err detected
[21:49] <crashed> How would I check>?
[21:50] <konner> i hate the internet browser kubuntu came with
[21:50] <flipstar> is it usb ? > lsusb
[21:50] <crashed> pci
[21:50] <crashed> 05:06.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[21:51] <DaSkreech> konner: ^_^ I learned to like it
[21:51] <DaSkreech> It's not really a web browser it's just really good at faking it
[21:51] <Piddy> Guys, how do I show hidden files in konqueror?
[21:51] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+H
[21:51] <konner> it OPENs file insted of letting me save them
[21:51] <konner> Ah ok
[21:52] <DaSkreech> konner: Right click save
[21:52] <DaSkreech> kon
[21:52] <DaSkreech> konner: Ha ha that's one of the things i love about it
[21:52] <DaSkreech> konner: or right click copy
[21:52] <DaSkreech> You can copy music and flash and all sorts of stuff
[21:52] <DaSkreech> its really quite useful
[21:53] <Eirikeb> <-- idiot
[21:53] <sam64> how do you get numbers organizing properly in Konqueror? (2 before 10)
[21:53] <crashed> I'd have an easier time getting this card to work in windows.
[21:53] <Eirikeb> just changed the name of my "first" user to admin
[21:54] <crashed> And that's not easy either.
[21:54] <Piddy> Guys? Hidden files in konqueror? How:P
[21:54] <tekteen> Ctrl+H
[21:54] <sam64> view>Show Hidden
[21:54] <Eirikeb> and now get some message like"Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation"
[21:54] <crashed> tvtime-scanner says it's finding a few channels.
[21:54] <crashed> Found a channel at  73.75 MHz (73.50 - 73.75 MHz), adding to channel list.
[21:54] <DaSkreech> Piddy: argh Sorry View -> Show hidden I put in the Ctrl+H thing myself
[21:54] <sam64> there is no shortcut on my installation
[21:54] <Piddy> Thanks :)
[21:54] <Eirikeb> i guess Its because I forgot to create a new folder called admin or something
[21:54] <nosrednaekim> Eirikeb» is your home directory owned by the right person? have the right permissions?
[21:54] <Piddy> No problem DaSkreech:P
[21:55] <flipstar> crashed: http://xawdecode.sourceforge.net/aideUS/htmlpage/TVCardall.htm you might now this already ..
[21:55] <DaSkreech> It's been there so long I forget it's not standard
[21:55]  * DaSkreech grumbles. Though it should be
[21:55] <DaSkreech> just like F5 should be reload in Adept
[21:55]  * DaSkreech grumbles
[21:55] <sam64> it should..
[21:55] <Eirikeb> I have no idea who owns the home directory
[21:56] <Piddy> Ok, I'm trying to delete .compiz, but it won't work. Access denied it says.
[21:56] <faileas> anyone have any idea why i seem to have twice as many desktops showing up in the panel in kubunu fiesty than i actually have?
[21:57] <crashed> I quit :(
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> Eirikeb» "ls -la" will tell you
[21:57] <flipstar> faileas: using compiz ?
[21:57] <faileas> flipstar: yup
[21:58] <faileas> its cause of that?
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> faileas» use kicker-compiz
[21:58] <tekteen> faileas: yep
[21:58] <[T]an1> i am not successful in installing alsa-driver. I am following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto. when I run make is when it fails. here is the output of make http://pastebin.ca/921224
[21:58] <Piddy> Access denied to /home/per-kristian/.local/share/Trash/files/.compiz.
[21:58] <[T]an1> i could sure use some assistance with this.
[21:58] <Piddy> How do I fix that?
[21:59] <[T]an1> spent the entire day on this now
[21:59]  * faileas supposes he needs to install and run it each time he switches to compiz?
[21:59] <tekteen> just run it
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> [T]an1» for 1.... thats a rather old version of alsa
[22:00] <faileas> o0
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> [T]an1» 2..... you might be able to get more help in #alsa
[22:00] <Eirikeb> hm just another quick question, how I can change another users password from shell?
[22:01] <[T]an1> nosrednaekim: is it possible to install via apt-get or some other version?
[22:01] <tekteen> Eirikeb: yes
[22:01] <tekteen> Eirikeb: sudo passwd USER
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> [T]an1» I think you have to download it fom the alsa website
[22:01] <[T]an1> ok
[22:01] <faileas> what's the command for that?  kicker-compiz isn't found after i installed it
[22:01] <flipstar> Piddy: remove with sudo
[22:01] <Eirikeb> ah, thanks
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> faileas» you have to add them to the panel.... they are panel applets... are you on hardy?
[22:02] <Eirikeb> then its just to get startx to work again
[22:02] <faileas> nosrednaekim: 7.10
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> faileas» didn't realize they made it into the repositories.. cool
[22:02] <Piddy> flipstar: I can't find the right command.
[22:03] <flipstar> sudo rm /home/per-kristian/.local/share/Trash/files/.compiz
[22:03] <mathew_> hey anyone tell me ..... why my frostwire for kubuntu llike tries to load then disppears?
[22:03] <faileas> nosrednaekim: dosen't work tho ;p
[22:03] <mathew_> this also happens with some other programs
[22:03] <mathew_> plz2fix
[22:04] <Eirikeb> xauth: timeout in locking athority file home/eirik.serverauth.8774
[22:04] <Eirikeb> bah
[22:04] <nosrednaekim> faileas» the applet?
[22:04] <[T]an1> nosrednaekim: as I am looking at the alsa website, the version i installed is the most recent one I see. Do you know the current version?
[22:04] <Piddy> flipstar, actually I'm trying to delete my .compiz folder in my home folder.
[22:04] <faileas> nosrednaekim: yup, same issue as with the normal one
[22:04] <nosrednaekim> faileas» oooh, maybe its the other package.... the pager....
[22:04]  * nosrednaekim forgets what that one is called though
[22:04]  * faileas is trying to get 4 desktops to get the cube
[22:05] <flipstar> Piddy: sudo rm <whateveryouwanttodeletethatisownedbyroot>
[22:05] <flipstar> Piddy: sudo rm -R <whateveryouwanttodeletethatisownedbyroot> for folders
[22:05] <mathew_> hey anyone tell me ..... why my frostwire for kubuntu llike tries to load then disppears?
[22:05] <mathew_> ?
[22:05] <Eirikeb> reboot=win
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> !repeat
[22:06] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:06] <mathew_> meh
[22:06] <mathew_> other day i repated i got answered on the repeat
[22:06] <flipstar> faileas: in ccsm you can adjust the desktops
[22:07] <flipstar> you can also have 16 or so ..
[22:07] <faileas> ccsm?
[22:07] <flipstar> !ccsm
[22:07] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[22:07] <faileas> ahh
[22:07] <Arwen> ccsm rules
[22:07] <Arwen> much better than the normal one
[22:07] <faileas> flipstar: got that stuff works fine in gnome
[22:07] <flipstar> there is a normal one..?
[22:07] <pedro_> hi
[22:08] <flipstar> faileas: i dont have gnome ..
[22:08] <faileas> erf
[22:08] <faileas> still the same issue
[22:08] <Arwen> dang, Xorg is using about 100MB of memory
[22:08] <hola> i need help to configure my webcam
[22:09] <sd32> is it possible to install real player from the terminal?
[22:09] <tekteen> pedro_: hi
[22:09] <Arwen> guess that's what I get for using a shared memory video card...
[22:09] <tekteen> sd32: you can get it from medibuntu (I think)
[22:09] <flipstar> faileas: -->ccsm>general>desktop size>set to a value betwen 1 and 32 ..
[22:09] <pedro_> i can't run wine on kubuntu cause of these error "library files for "libpython1.5-so" is missing
[22:09] <sd32> tekteen: no i have medibuntu and no luck
[22:09] <tekteen> sd32: then you can install it using apt-get
[22:09] <tekteen> ok
[22:10] <tekteen> then I do not know
[22:10] <pedro_> please help
[22:10] <Arwen> sd32, there should be a package "realplayer" in the commercial respoitory
[22:10] <Arwen> repository*
[22:10] <sd32> Arwen: nope
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> pedro_» is this on hardy?
[22:10] <pedro_> yes
[22:10] <Arwen> sd32, then you have to do it manually
[22:10] <pedro_> it is
[22:10] <mathew_> which is best kubuntu/ubuntu/xbuntu?
[22:11] <flipstar> 24 desktops rocks!!
[22:11] <tekteen> sd32: have you installed the comm. repo?
[22:11] <Arwen> !find libpython2.5.so
[22:11] <tekteen> mathew_: dont ask
[22:11] <ubotu> File libpython2.5.so found in python2.5-dev
[22:11] <Arwen> I assume you made a typo there...
[22:11] <faileas> flipstar: i'll settle for 4 and a cube ;p
[22:11] <mathew_> why ....
[22:11] <sd32> tekteen: yes
[22:11] <tekteen> mathew_: we will all say kubuntu
[22:11] <Arwen> pedro_, install that package listed above
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> mathew_» whatever you like best
[22:11] <mathew_> ah ok
[22:11] <flipstar> faileas: whatever you like ..
[22:12] <mathew_> hows kde 4 coming along?
[22:12] <faileas> hmm
[22:12] <sd32> I was trying to install it manually but the install is so difficult
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> mathew_» I like it
[22:13] <faileas> sd32: there's a package its not complete but it works
[22:13] <sd32> faileas: where?
[22:13] <epssi> hello. how can i remove arts without removing kubuntu-desktop?
[22:13] <mathew_> so is all the bugs removed?
[22:13] <mathew_> i got told not to try it
[22:13] <flipstar> try it doesnt hurt you ..
[22:14] <tekteen> mathew_: the bugs are dropping like flies
[22:14] <tekteen> :-)
[22:14] <mathew_> haha
[22:14] <mathew_> ironic
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> epssi» why?
[22:14] <sd32> im just amazed that real makes a linux version but its not in the repositories
[22:15] <epssi> to reinstall arts for noatun
[22:15] <mathew_> ive been comparing windows to nix base stuff for personal and college use
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> epssi» and don't worry about removing kubuntu-desktop, its not really neccesary
[22:15] <flipstar> sd32: real still is closed software ..
[22:15] <tekteen> !info realplayer
[22:15] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in gutsy
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> sd32» skype has a linux version and its not in there.
[22:15] <faileas> sd32: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[22:15] <tekteen> !info real
[22:15] <ubotu> Package real does not exist in gutsy
[22:15] <flipstar> sd32: you might try helix-player instead
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[22:15] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:15] <sd32> nosrednaekim: its in the medibuntu
[22:15] <mathew_> and thing i find anoying with kunbutu when you mess the grahics up you get black screen and you have to go into recovery etc ... ive only every once got dual montoir to work once but after restart it failed
[22:16] <sd32> helix is a joke
[22:16] <epssi> nosrednaekim what is kubuntu-desktop then?
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> epssi» mostly usefull for installing and upgrading.
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> epssi» its a meta package.... it depends on other programs on install, but not on uninstall
[22:17] <flipstar> hm i uninstalled kubuntu-desktop long time ago..
[22:18] <tekteen> flipstar: I hope you do not try to upgrade to hardy :-)
[22:18] <pedro_> i can't run wine on kubuntu
[22:18] <pedro_> why
[22:18] <crispy_chunks> hello! I installed kubuntu from a netinstall booted off a pendrive, but unfortunately grub ended up on my pendrive - any suggestions?
[22:18] <flipstar> much unessesry stuff as default
[22:18] <flipstar> tekteen: i already did
[22:18] <tekteen> pedro_: my esp says it is because something is messed ip
[22:18] <tekteen> flipstar: ok nm
[22:18] <flipstar> :P
[22:18] <tekteen> pedro_: give some information
[22:19] <tekteen> pedro_: what did it say when it failed?
[22:19] <mrunagi> is there a command line based torrent client?>
[22:19] <tekteen> rtorrent
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> mrunagi: rtorrent
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> crispy_chunks» yeah... you can tell grub to install to another HD... use "grub-install"
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> just an update on the sound issue...  i went and started the game, it segfaulted and took my mouse with it, so i just restarted x.  tried launching the game again and it worked perfectly...  go figure
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido» WINE?
[22:20] <crispy_chunks> nosrednaekim: i'll look into it ,thanks :)
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> nope
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> UT
[22:21] <Daisuke_Ido> which so depserately needs an updated installer
[22:21] <sd32> !medibuntu
[22:21] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:22] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido» and so desperately needs to get 3 out the door
[22:22] <pedro_> an error occured during your last KDE upgrade an orphaend controle module
[22:22] <pedro_> and ou have a old third party modules lying around
[22:22] <Daisuke_Ido> i dunno about that, i'm not a big fan of newer games.  UT99 is classic though
[22:23] <epssi> whoa...
[22:23] <flipstar> Daisuke_Ido: try nexuiz ..
[22:23] <Daisuke_Ido> flipstar: nexuiz is okay
[22:23] <Arwen> Nexuiz, lol
[22:23] <konner> uhh
[22:23] <konner> xD
[22:23] <Arwen> they need higher quality character models >_>
[22:24] <konner> i did something wrong
[22:24] <Arwen> and better looking maps
[22:24] <Arwen> and better animations >_>
[22:24] <epssi> i started uninstalling arts packages and didnt notice that it would mean uninstalling all kinds of really important things
[22:24] <Daisuke_Ido> but UT is UT
[22:24] <epssi> how do i undo the damage?
[22:24] <pedro_> i can't put wine working
[22:24] <flipstar> Arwen: theres a map pack on the website ..
[22:24] <Arwen> flipstar, higher quality as in um... graphics
[22:24] <tekteen> pedro_: give more information
[22:24] <tekteen> pedro_: my esp is never very good :-D
[22:25] <flipstar> Arwen: there are a lot of options in setting..i can make it so high that my graphic card nearly collaps ..
[22:25] <Daisuke_Ido> iwould have to go with alien arena over nexuiz
[22:25] <pedro_> i gave you information
[22:25] <Arwen> flipstar, the effects are neat, but they don't really help without great textures
[22:25] <tekteen> can you repeat it?
[22:25] <Daisuke_Ido> pedro_: "i can't put wine working" isn't information.
[22:26] <pedro_> o god
[22:26] <konner> nvm i did something right
[22:26] <konner> xD
[22:26] <pedro_> an error occured during your last KDE upgrade an orphaend controle module
[22:26] <tekteen> ok
[22:26] <pedro_> and ou have a old third party modules lying around
[22:27] <flipstar> Arwen: antiAliasing and stuff might help out a little ..
[22:27] <tekteen> have you changed kde in any way?
[22:27] <pedro_> please help cause the sema error iswith when i try to open the file manager
[22:27] <Arwen> flipstar, there is no anti-aliasing
[22:27] <Arwen> hehe
[22:27] <flipstar> sure ?
[22:27] <pedro_> if chage KDE??
[22:27] <flipstar> i bet it is
[22:27] <Arwen> no, just anisotropic filterin
[22:27] <flipstar> oh..right
[22:28] <tekteen> pedro_: I do not know
[22:28] <pedro_> well i don't know i upgrade all when kubuntu sais
[22:28] <tekteen> ok
[22:28] <flipstar> Arwen: but at least it is shipped with *ubuntu :P
[22:28] <epssi> i can't even start a konsole
[22:28] <pedro_> so can anyone help me
[22:29] <flipstar> epssi: maybe installing kubuntu-desktop..or that file you uninstalled..
[22:30] <epssi> flipstar how can i do that without a konsole or anything?
[22:30] <flipstar> epssi: you cant even run adept or synaptic and have no konsole open at the moment ?
[22:30] <flipstar> ouch
[22:30] <hola> i need help to configure my webcam
[22:30] <epssi> nope
[22:31] <flipstar> thats very bad epssi
[22:31] <epssi> uh huh
[22:31] <pedro_> i can't put wine working please some help
[22:32] <Daisuke_Ido> !repeat | pedro_
[22:32] <ubotu> pedro_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:32] <flipstar> only possibity to fix that (that i know) ->boot livecd ->chrott->reinstall kde desktop
[22:32] <flipstar> epssi: ^ *chroot
[22:35] <flipstar> epssi: maybe you can switch to rescue mode first and see if apt-get still exist..if you can login ..
[22:36] <mathew_> is limeiwre or frostwire supported in kubuntu
[22:36] <flipstar> not official
[22:36] <sd32> I am showing double entries  in  my installer how can i clean this up?
[22:36] <flipstar> !limewire | mathew_
[22:36] <ubotu> mathew_: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[22:37] <konner> can someone help me install  compiz-fusion?
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> !compiz
[22:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> konner» you got synaptic all installed?
[22:37] <konner> k
[22:37] <konner> yeah
[22:37] <konner> i got it installed
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> :)
[22:37] <konner> ^_^
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> konner» is it better?
[22:38] <konner> Now i want eyecandy
[22:38] <konner> x]
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> hah.. what video card do you have?
[22:38] <konner> Nvidia Gefore 6600 GT AGP
[22:38] <konner> I installed the drivers already
[22:38] <mrunagi> whats agp?
[22:38] <konner> =]
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> konner» should be easy then
[22:38] <flipstar> konner: haha like i do :)
[22:38] <mrunagi> =)
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» graphics interface bus....
[22:38] <BanTam> AGP=Accelerated Graphics Port
[22:38] <mrunagi> windows OWNS kubuntu
[22:38] <mrunagi> windows has cool things like viruses and adware
[22:39] <konner> O_o
[22:39] <mrunagi> which is why im reformatting.........yay!
[22:39] <mrunagi> lol
[22:39] <mrunagi> 3 days it took =)
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> konner» wait... when did you install the graphics driver? before or after I had you run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[22:39] <flipstar> some viruses run under wine ..
[22:39] <konner> before
[22:39] <mrunagi> that sounds like fun!
[22:39] <flipstar> but only a few
[22:39] <mrunagi> sudo wine virus.exe
[22:39] <mrunagi> lol
[22:39] <flipstar> ^^
[22:41] <konner> I installed them before that.
[22:41] <sam64> flipstar: I've en looking for some to try actually
[22:41] <sam64> been*
[22:42] <flipstar> i have a very great collection of very old viruses..like 6000
[22:42] <sam64> pwn
[22:42] <flipstar> but very,very _very_ old
[22:42] <sam64> I wanted to stock up for fun
[22:42] <ubuntu> hello
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> konner» ok, how did you install them (that command disabled them)
[22:42] <Daisuke_Ido> flipstar: if you're ever threatened by an evil alien computer based on the 8088 processor, you can stop him!
[22:42] <tekteen> ubuntu: hi
[22:43] <ubuntu> español?
[22:43] <tekteen> !es
[22:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:43] <konner> I pressed crtl alt f1 disabled kdm installed them and restarted kdm
[22:43] <ubuntu> ok
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> konner» ah.. thats the wrong method.....
[22:44] <konner> really?
[22:44] <konner> :S
[22:44] <konner> thats what i was told on the ubuntu forums
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> konner» and I forget how to uninstall things installed by that methos
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> konner» well, using the restricted-manager is far simpler
[22:45] <konner> whats that
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> a  tool for instlling drivers
[22:45] <tekteen> konner: it is in system settings
[22:45] <tekteen> konner: under the advanced tab
[22:46] <pedro> hi anyone know why i can't go to the file sytem on the kubuntu
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> konner» install them from there. I think it will over-write anything yu installed before
[22:46] <konner> i found it
[22:46] <konner> how do i install them?
[22:46] <tekteen> click the check box
[22:47] <konner> it says the software source for the package nvidia-glf-new is not enabled
[22:47] <tekteen> !info nvidia-glf-new
[22:47] <ubotu> Package nvidia-glf-new does not exist in gutsy
[22:48] <konner> x]
[22:48] <konner> thats alot of helpful info
[22:48] <twosouls82> !info nvidia-glx-new
[22:48] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (2.6.22.4-14.10)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[22:49] <tekteen> thanks
[22:49] <tekteen> :-S
[22:49] <twosouls82> ;)
[22:49] <pedro> there is anyproblem if i have installed kubuntu and had vista??
[22:49] <flipstar> yes..you probably wont like vista anymore
[22:49] <pedro> lol
[22:49] <konner> ROFL
[22:50] <tekteen> pedro: not that would affect the file manager
[22:50] <pedro> if i cna't go to other partitions of my pc i start not liking kubuntu
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> konner» go into adept->manager repositories, enable "restricted)
[22:50] <pedro> do have anyideia what i can do put that working
[22:50] <pedro> ??
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> pedro» you can' access your windows drives?
[22:51] <pedro> no
[22:51] <pedro> is that
[22:51] <pedro> i want to
[22:51] <pedro> but i can't
[22:51] <konner> ok
[22:51] <flipstar> !enter
[22:51] <konner> i enabled them
[22:51] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:51] <konner> and the KDE crash handler comes up
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> pedro» go to system settings->advanced->disks and partitions
[22:51] <twosouls82> pedro: "hi anyone know why i can't go to the file sytem on the kubuntu" rephrase that please, and you might get answer
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> konner» and adept crashed? heh
[22:52] <twosouls82> !ask
[22:52] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:52] <twosouls82> oops, wrong one
[22:52] <pedro> ok i had done that but theres the same problem when i run windows aplication
[22:52] <Daisuke_Ido> *facepalm*
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> pedro» you can't run windows apps unless you have WINE.. and esp not from your windows partition
[22:53] <pedro> i have wine installed
[22:53] <konner> no
[22:53] <konner> xD
[22:53] <konner> adapt didnt crash
[22:53] <pedro> but when i go to configure it it just don't run
[22:53] <tekteen> pedro: it still will not run them from the win partition
[22:53] <konner> it enabled restricted
[22:53] <konner> now
[22:53] <konner> the drivers wont enable
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> konner» ok... well, click reload..
[22:54] <konner> ROFL
[22:54] <konner> OOPS
[22:54] <konner> I FORGOT TO CLICK OFF ADAPT MANAGER
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> :)
[22:54] <konner> now it worked
[22:54] <konner> lmaso im stupid today
[22:55] <TuxOtaku> anyone know how to fix a corrupt TCP/IP stack on kubuntu?
[22:55] <Eirikeb> oops, think I've destroyed the su password
[22:55] <Eirikeb> : O
[22:55] <pedro> how can i solve the problem so
[22:55] <konner> xD
[22:55] <konner> Ok
[22:55] <konner> now back to compiz
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> konner» ok... you'll probably be asked restart....
[22:55] <konner> WHY IS EVERYTHING HARDER TO DO ON KUBUNTU
[22:55] <konner> xD
[22:55] <konner> No i didnt get asked
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> konner» if not... you need to anyway
[22:55] <TuxOtaku> anyone? anyone? bueller??
[22:56] <konner> Ok brb
[22:56] <twosouls82> !omg
[22:56] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> konner» AND... remember that dpkg-reconfigure command
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> konner» in case it punts you back to the command line
[22:57] <pedro> it sais when i go to the file manager tha an erroro occurred during your lat upgrade leaving an orpahaned control module
[22:57] <flipstar> im out
[22:58] <tekteen> lat = last :-)
[22:58] <pedro> yep
[22:58] <pedro> please help
[22:58] <pedro> i never got the acsses to windows partitions
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> !pt
[22:59] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:01] <pedro> how do i monut a partition
[23:01] <pedro> ??
[23:01] <Eirikeb> <-- gz me, just fucked up my installation
[23:01] <Konner> argh
[23:01] <tekteen> !ohmy
[23:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:01] <Konner> it wont start again
[23:02] <tekteen> Eirikeb: so what happened
[23:02] <tekteen> what did you mess up
[23:02] <Konner> ubuntu is a less pain
[23:02] <Eirikeb> cant use adminstrator mode
[23:02] <Eirikeb> have no idea what my su password is
[23:02] <tekteen> Eirikeb: your password
[23:02] <tekteen> sudo
[23:02] <tekteen> !root
[23:02] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:03] <Eirikeb> so im not supposed to be able to write su, then enter the password?
[23:03] <tekteen> no
[23:03] <tekteen> write sudo
[23:03] <tekteen> then your password
[23:03] <Eirikeb> okay, then the problem is that administrator mode doesnt work, it just sends me back to kcontrol
[23:03] <tekteen> ok
[23:04] <tekteen> on that you just use you password
[23:04] <Eirikeb> tried the solutions google gave me
[23:04] <Eirikeb> mhm
[23:04] <Eirikeb> done several times
[23:04] <hola> i need help to configure my webcam
[23:04] <tekteen> ok
[23:04] <tekteen> is this the first user you installed?
[23:04] <soussou> hi guys
[23:05] <Eirikeb> well, the problem startet when I changed the name of the first user to admin (old name eirik)
[23:05] <Eirikeb> and then created a new user called, gues whatt eirik
[23:05] <soussou> I am trying to have a simple qt4 application run on my box
[23:05] <tekteen> ok
[23:05] <Eirikeb> then kubuntu asked what I wanted to do with the old /home/eirik so I just took the choice which deleted and recreated the folder
[23:06] <tekteen> Eirikeb: can you post your /etc/goups
[23:06] <soussou> I am using codeblocks as my main IDE, I installed libqt4-dev from the repos, but when I try searching for the actual library files for  qt4, I find nothing, the include files are all there, but no library files
[23:06] <soussou> anyone knows where those libs are?
[23:07] <soussou> normally development library files are in /usr/lib/package-name
[23:07] <tekteen> Eirikeb: do you know what the pastebin is?
[23:07] <soussou> but when I tried searching for library files for qt4, i found nothing in /usr/lib/qt4
[23:07] <tekteen> Eirikeb: no wait
[23:07] <Eirikeb> more or less
[23:07] <Eirikeb> got no folder called groups
[23:07] <Eirikeb> : o
[23:07] <soussou> anybody has any ideas as to where those libs are?
[23:07] <tekteen> Eirikeb: when you use admin
[23:07] <Vermux> so whatz up?
[23:07] <Eirikeb> I cant even log onto him using GUI
[23:08] <tekteen> Eirikeb: do you try to use admin mode as the user erik?
[23:08] <Eirikeb> get some error
[23:08] <Eirikeb> and the cause of the error (google says so) is that I didnt create a new folder for that user/deleted that user's folder
[23:08] <tekteen> Eirikeb: admin mode only works as a user who is an admin (even if you know the password)
[23:09] <Eirikeb> ah, thats logical
[23:09] <Konner> ....
[23:09] <Konner> Ima install Ubuntu im sick of Kubntu
[23:09] <tekteen> Eirikeb: sudo is not made for this purpose
[23:09] <Eirikeb> but how do I change that, because right now I cant get my admin account (the old "1st" account) to work
[23:10] <soussou> anybody has any ideas where the qy4 libraries actually are? I tried building simple qt4 apps, but I can't find those damn libraries, include files are all there, but no object library files
[23:10] <tekteen> Eirikeb: I will look it up
[23:11] <tekteen> Eirikeb: why do you want a separate admin user?
[23:11] <Eirikeb> message I get when I try to log on as eirik using KDE: "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation
[23:11] <Eirikeb> I don't want a seperate admin user, I want the admin user to be the administrator, but I cant do that since I can't log onto him
[23:12] <tekteen> Eirikeb: open a konsole and type su admin
[23:12] <tekteen> Eirikeb: we are going to make erik an admin
[23:12] <Eirikeb> ctrol-alt-f1?
[23:12] <tekteen> why not
[23:13] <Eirikeb> okay, kubuntu login: _
[23:13] <tekteen> login as erick
[23:13] <Eirikeb> okay
[23:13] <tekteen> eirik
[23:13] <Eirikeb> yeah, thats done
[23:13] <tekteen> now type su admin
[23:13] <tekteen> type in the admin pass
[23:14] <Eirikeb> okay, logged on as admin now
[23:14]  * tekteen is looking up the command
[23:15] <venik> I have a really dumb question: how do I start matlab after I have installed it?  I can do it from the terminal by typing matlab in the /opt/matlab/bin folder, but I want to be able to click on an icon to start it
[23:15] <tekteen> Eirikeb: usermod -a admin eirik
[23:15] <Eirikeb> that prints awhole lot of options
[23:16] <tekteen> ok
[23:16] <Ors> Hi there, I am new to kubuntu and I have some problem with the installation
[23:16] <Eirikeb> -a, --append        append the user to the supplemental groups
[23:16] <tekteen> Eirikeb: usermod -aG admin eirik
[23:16] <tekteen> sorry
[23:17] <tekteen> Ors: what is the problem
[23:17] <Ors> at one point I receive a message that busybox etc. and enter help for a list of build-in commands. However, there is no error message
[23:17] <Eirikeb> usermod: unable to lock password file
[23:17] <Vermux> so what do u think about Firestarter?
[23:17] <tekteen> ok
[23:18] <tekteen> Eirikeb: sudo...
[23:18] <Eirikeb> I had the same problem, fixed it by reinnstalling from an alternate disc, instead of live cd
[23:18] <Eirikeb> heh
[23:18] <Eirikeb> okay, no error message, so I guess it worked
[23:18] <tekteen> ok
[23:18] <tekteen> type exit
[23:19] <tekteen> then type groups
[23:19] <Ors> tekteen: what shall I type?
[23:19] <tekteen> Ors: no idea
[23:19] <cbo> after upgrading to kde-3.5.9 i cannot check 'mount as user' external drives. now it mounts as root:root a can not write on it... any help is wellcome please
[23:19] <tekteen> Ors: do not know the error
[23:19] <Eirikeb> ors, look what I did to fix it, worked for me at least
[23:20] <Eirikeb> groups -> eirik_1 dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev sanner lpadmin
[23:20] <Eirikeb> sanner=scanner
[23:20] <tekteen> Eirikeb: logout
[23:20] <tekteen> log back in
[23:20] <tekteen> now try groups
[23:21] <Eirikeb> the same plus lpadmin admin
[23:21] <Eirikeb> thats good yes?
[23:21] <tekteen> cool
[23:21] <Ors> Eirikeb: what did you do?
[23:21] <yao_ziyuan> there are packages removed but actually whose installation files are still cached on the hard disk. how do i clear them?
[23:21] <tekteen> now go log in to the gui
[23:21] <tekteen> and try it
[23:21] <tekteen> if you are logged in... log out then in
[23:22] <Eirikeb> Ors: I re-installed. I got the same error message while using a live CD, so I just figured i'd try to install with an alternate cd, and that worked
[23:22] <tekteen> you will now be able to use your password as admin
[23:22] <Eirikeb> log in to the guy as in: startx?
[23:22] <tekteen> bye
[23:22] <tekteen> yes
[23:22] <Eirikeb> okay, goodbye, thanks for the help. I owe you a beer : D
[23:22] <tekteen> I am underage :-)
[23:22] <venik> can anyone tell me how to make the matlab starting script execut from a clickable icon?
[23:22] <Eirikeb> not that startx works : P
[23:22] <Ors> Eirikeb: tx
[23:23] <tekteen> give me beer!
[23:23] <tekteen> bye
[23:23] <Eirikeb> Server is allready active for display 0
[23:23] <Eirikeb> bye
[23:23] <Eirikeb> <3
[23:23] <Vermux> who recommend on Firestarter?
[23:23] <venik> what does katapult do?
[23:24] <swatto> whts the command to remove packages please?
[23:24] <swatto> apt-remove or or something?
[23:24] <Eirikeb> good luck Ors : D
[23:24] <venik> apt-get remove package
[23:24] <swatto> cheers
[23:24] <venik> apt-get remove packagename
[23:24] <prince_jammys> venik: katapult is a launcher. it also finds indexed files in your homedir i think.
[23:25] <venik> I clicked on it, saw the sling picture, and then it disappeared
[23:25] <prince_jammys> venik : do alt space
[23:25] <prince_jammys> venik: and then type something like "konq"
[23:26] <prince_jammys>  venik: and you hit enter to run the app
[23:26] <venik> nice-- thanks
[23:26] <venik> but it does not work with the matlab launching script
[23:27] <prince_jammys> venik: it doesn't work with everything. i don't really use it, so i don't know what the exact criteria are
[23:27] <venik> how do I kill it?
[23:27] <venik> I don't want it running in the background
[23:28] <prince_jammys> venik: not sure
[23:28] <prince_jammys> venik: probably somewhere in .kde or in /usr/share/autostart, or maybe thru system-settings
[23:28] <venik> ok
[23:28] <prince_jammys> how about that for a straight answer
[23:29] <venik> I still don't know how to start matlab from an icon... ;-(
[23:29] <prince_jammys> you mean create a launcher for it?
[23:29] <_Angelus_> guys
[23:29] <venik> yes (I guess)
[23:29] <psilocyde> help with setting up a good sources.list file?
[23:29] <_Angelus_> when the new version of kuubuntu is out, would i be able to upgrade without rebooting?
[23:30] <prince_jammys> venik: is "matlab" the name of an executable? meaning can you run it from a terminal
[23:30] <sam64> how would I go about changing the way Konqueror sorts files?
[23:30] <venik> If I am in the right folder, and type matlab, it runs
[23:30] <venik> but if I press alt space and type it, it does nothing
[23:31] <prince_jammys> sam64: view->sort
[23:31] <prince_jammys> venik: try making a launcher for it in the K menuy
[23:31] <sam64> prince_jammys: I want to change the way it does it though. It doesn't sort numbers properly.
[23:32] <venik> prince-- I don't see how to create a launcher from the K menu
[23:32] <prince_jammys> sam64 i think i know what you mean.  it sorts them as strings and not numerically, right?
[23:32] <sam64> prince_jammys: something like that
[23:33] <sam64> prince_jammys: I remember there being a setting, but I don't remember where :\
[23:33] <prince_jammys> venik: first click on the menu, then right click on the menu and click on "edit menu"
[23:33] <prince_jammys> venik: once you're in the menu editor, create new item and make the command for that item be "matlab"
[23:34] <prince_jammys> sam64: yeah i don't know either
[23:34] <sam64> :\
[23:39] <bizzeh> hey, my monitor and gfx card support upto 1680x1050, why can i only use 1400x1050 ?
[23:40] <venik> prince-- I did that, but it did not work
[23:40] <venik> it showed the matlab icon for a couple of seconds, then died
[23:47] <roomy> hi folks
[23:48] <roomy> ive got a problem i just installed a packet from the internet how can i start it ?
[23:48] <cbo> after upgrading to kde-3.5.9 i cannot check 'mount as user' external drives. now it mounts as root:root a can not write on it... any help is wellcome please
[23:48] <roomy> can somebody help me please ?
[23:50] <sergiu> !codec
[23:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:52] <psilocyde> I have a fresh kubuntu install here, need help with verry low sound
[23:52] <bizzeh> anyone know why kubuntu doesnt work properly on a widescreen
[23:53] <venik> psil- have u tried the volume control?
[23:53] <psilocyde> lol
[23:53] <psilocyde> yes
[23:53] <psilocyde> ty
[23:53] <psilocyde> thats a fair question
[23:53] <venik> the mixer, I mean, not the one on your sound system
[23:53] <psilocyde> yes
[23:53] <psilocyde> all jacked to 10
[23:54] <psilocyde> and its barely audible
[23:54] <bizzeh> you plugged into the speaker out, and not the line out?
[23:54] <psilocyde> yes
[23:54] <psilocyde> i had this problem before
[23:54] <psilocyde> its a bug
[23:54] <psilocyde> but i dont remeber how to fix it
[23:55] <venik> the sound in kubuntu is rather flaky, in my experience
[23:55] <psilocyde> ya
[23:55] <venik> it often disappears entirely
[23:55] <psilocyde> i see
[23:55] <psilocyde> well
[23:55] <venik> and I reboot to bring it back, as in the WINDOZ days
[23:55] <psilocyde> ya, that dodnt help me.
[23:56] <psilocyde> low on every boot
[23:56] <bizzeh> hmmn
[23:56] <bizzeh> kubuntu installs half as much data than vista
[23:56] <bizzeh> vista installs in half the time
[23:56] <bizzeh> and everything works
[23:56] <xxBasYxx> how to play dvd from VIDEO_TS dir on kub?
[23:56] <bizzeh> ubuntu doesnt recognise my gfx card, and when i got it to do, it wont pick up my full resolution
[23:57] <bizzeh> and now the installer has crashed out on grub install
[23:57] <psilocyde> vista costs many dollars and comes with a drm hypervisor
[23:58] <psilocyde> so what ever
[23:58] <bizzeh> doesnt cost alot when you buy OEM
[23:58] <bizzeh> and doesnt have a drm hypervisor at all
[23:58] <psilocyde> oy
[23:58] <bizzeh> thats FOSS hippie communistic bullshit
[23:58] <psilocyde> oh really?
[23:58] <bizzeh> spread by assholes just to try and damage peoples opinion
[23:59] <psilocyde> i wont argue it with you but read the documentation
[23:59] <roomy> can somebody give me some support ? i've just installed squid (proxy server) but i can't find it im really unexperienced in using linux ...
[23:59] <bizzeh> documentation and actual implementation, are two different things
[23:59] <toker> hi all
[23:59] <bizzeh> asa developer myself, i know this