[00:38] <superm1> directhex, yeah it should have rebuilt this aftrernoon
[00:38] <superm1> afternoon even
[00:39] <directhex> hasn't hit the uk mirror yet. is the build log up?
[00:40] <superm1> i dont know Daviey's mirroring schedule
[00:40] <superm1> you'd have to check with him
[00:40] <superm1> the build log should be up too
[00:41] <directhex> build log appears correct
[00:43] <directhex> what's using fftw? O_o
[00:43] <superm1> fast fourier transforms
[00:44] <directhex> i know what it is, i'm more wondering why
[00:46] <tgm4883> frink_, ping
[00:46] <superm1> oh mythfrontend gets support for it
[00:46] <superm1> i'd guess for time stretch?
[00:46] <superm1> what else would need a FFT?
[00:48] <directhex> i have no idea!
[00:48] <directhex> mythmusic could use it...
[00:48] <directhex> well, libvisual really
[00:48] <superm1> yeah but its definitely a dependency availlable in mythfrontend
[03:13] <Egghead3> using 8.04, and just did and mmc update tonight, now i lost nvidia drivers and restricted driver manager, got the manager back, how do i get the nvidia drivers back?
[03:18] <javatexan> howdy all
[03:18] <javatexan> well I want to write a plugin for mythtv....how would one get started?
[03:39] <javatexan> any dev types hangin around?
[03:45] <javatexan> directhex: are you around?
[04:15] <Egghead3> anyone else loose the restriced drives after recent updating?
[04:16] <Egghead3> oops drivers
[04:28] <superm1> Egghead3, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-10-generic
[04:28] <superm1> its probably not available yet
[04:28] <superm1> try to boot into the older (-8) kernel
[04:28] <superm1> until it is
[04:28] <npurciful> heya superm1
[04:28] <superm1> hi
[04:28] <Egghead3> thanks superm1
[04:30] <Egghead3> btw, the x11vnc seems to be working great, doesnt seem to slow down playback during connection
[04:32] <superm1> Egghead3, very good to hear
[04:33] <superm1> i'm not sure still if we need a migration path for people coming from gutsy, but hardy should now by default install x11vnc
[04:36] <Egghead3> good to hear, but i hope other have tested it too :), im a linux noob so...
[04:37] <superm1> well i just hope that the 100k+ plus people that have downloaded, at least a few more will upgrade early and catch the mishaps :)
[04:39] <Egghead3> any ideas when  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-10-generic will be compiled? just wondeing if i should wait or try and figure out how to roll back kernel
[05:13] <superm1> Egghead3, you should have both kernels installed right now
[05:13] <superm1> just pick the other one in grub
[07:01] <famicom> erh, does anyone here know hwo to change the internal player?
[07:02] <famicom> mythtv's internal player is shit
[07:37] <WcktKlwn> has anyone tried using the drobo share to stream movies to a myth box?
[09:28] <pwnguin> is there anything close to a standard interpretation of USB HID?
[09:29] <pwnguin> im digging into the mythGame module
[09:29] <pwnguin> and it seems like gamepads are an afterthought
[09:30] <pwnguin> in particular, people writing games intending to support gamepads, is there any hope of simply using HID and not having to deal with binding axis and buttons to labels?
[09:59] <directhex|work> pwnguin, yes and no
[10:00] <directhex|work> pwnguin, yes, usb-hid is entirely standard, no, you can't avoid the binding process (as not all pads have the same button labels, and worse, sometimes they do but they're laid out completely differently)
[10:00] <directhex|work> so if you're playing a SNES emulator, the snes A button is on the right and the Y button is on the left. but on an xbox pad, Y is at the top and A is at the bottom
[10:00] <directhex|work> y'see?
[11:16] <pwnguin> i get it, but it still kinda sucks
[11:16] <pwnguin> the input.h names suggest certian functionality
[11:16] <pwnguin> like rx and ry
[11:17] <directhex|work> yes, they do. and those names predate real-world behaviour
[11:18] <directhex|work> take, for example, a gamecube pad. the cube pad is detected as having six axes - x and y on the main stick, x and y on the c stick, and 1-d axes on each of the two triggers
[11:19] <directhex|work> how do you mesh that with something that was originally penned considering joysticks (which have rotational axes and pov hats)?
[11:20] <directhex|work> you end up marking, say, c-stick-up as being the Z axis, and c-stick-left as being on the rx axis. then stick triggers on ry and dz. the axes end up just being names which aren't connected to pad placement
[11:20] <directhex|work> at which point you need to be able to tell your app that
[11:22] <directhex|work> and THEN you get problems where a device exceeds even that expected number. consider the sony sixaxis controller for ps3. 2 sticks, motion sensitivity, pressure-sensitive (i.e. 1d axis) buttons including triggers.
[16:17] <MythbuntuGuest54> Need help with scheduled recordings - they are not workin
[16:18] <MythbuntuGuest54> Try to setup a recording and it fails - there is NOTHING scheduled to record.
[16:18] <MythbuntuGuest54> Ran sudo mythbackend --testsched and get error
[16:19] <MythbuntuGuest54> ./mythconverg/oldfind is marked as crashed and should be repaired...  Anyone know how to get this to work?
[16:51] <Holger> Hi. Where do I set storage groups in mythtv-setup using mythbuntu 7.10 ?
[16:53] <Holger> oh, my bad. Its available since 0.21. Apparently, mythbuntu uses 0.20.2
[22:00] <pwnguin> what's the best way to run wminput in daemon mode?
[22:01] <pwnguin> i was thinking of running it in the same place the frontend gets launched