[00:46] <LaserJock> join #ubuntu-desktop
[00:46] <LaserJock> bah
[03:42] <yyeago> I've got an edubuntu lab. What would be the best way to deploy all machines with exactly the same setup?
[10:48] <sakhi> hi highvoltage RichEd
[10:48] <RichEd> hi
[10:55] <sakhi> anyone familiar with perl?
[10:55] <sakhi> I busy learning it.
[10:56] <sakhi> I'm busy creating user accounts but I don't want them to have a password, rather to automatically logon
[10:56] <sakhi> using the username only
[10:57] <kgoetz> not sure you can have an empty password
[10:57] <stgraber> that should be a username option
[10:58] <stgraber> though if you are using LTSP it may causes some problems
[10:58] <stgraber> like SSH or LDM not accepting empty password
[10:59] <sakhi> ahhh so if the script does the following egrep "^$username" /etc/passwd >/dev/null
[10:59] <sakhi> that could cause problems on LTSP?
[11:00] <sakhi> as I am running edubuntu
[11:00] <stgraber> well, you should try this :
[11:00] <stgraber> create a test account with useradd and setting the password to empty
[11:00] <stgraber> edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config so it allows empty passwords
[11:00] <stgraber> then try a login from a thin client
[11:01] <stgraber> but I don't think ldm has any support for empty passwords
[11:01] <stgraber> ogra_cmpc: ^
[11:04] <sakhi> stgraber: ok, I also want all the users to have the same interface when they logon i.e.Background
[11:05] <sakhi> I know have to do something in /etc/skel ?
[11:05] <ogra_cmpc> stgraber, hardy has support for ssh key based logins
[11:05] <sakhi> so that presence can take place in all the users
[11:05] <stgraber>  /etc/skel is what will be copied to /home/username so modifiying it will apply to all new users
[11:05] <ogra_cmpc> but dont ask me how that works, i havent played with it yet
[11:05] <stgraber> but they will still be able to change the settings afterwards
[11:06] <stgraber> you may want to have a look at sabayon and the lockdown tool (I never used them but I think that's their goal to do such things)
[11:10] <johnny> sadly they don't provide a way to edit the global gconf
[11:11]  * johnny tries to decide of the extra expense of the dvi cable is worth it
[11:13] <stgraber> johnny: I have a box full of them here (monitor have the DVI plug but those tell computers don't) :)
[11:14] <johnny> well i am buying an adapter for other computers
[11:14] <johnny> the project has dvi on it , but i don't know how much it really matters to it
[11:15] <johnny> i can't figure out what model it is, because the mount obscures it all, and i can't find the key :)
[11:15] <sakhi> thanks
[11:15] <johnny> i can buy alot of svga cables
[11:15] <johnny> for the price of 1 dvi
[11:16] <johnny> 100ft vga is less than 35ft dvi
[11:26] <stgraber> johnny: yes, DVI is expensive ... I should really think of selling those 50 DVI cables :)
[17:10] <alesan> hi, anyone knows how can I draw a triangle in QCad, when I know all the dimensions of the sides?
[17:39] <ScorpKing> is there a pxe boot image for ltsp on edubuntu? i get "tftpd[4990]: RRQ from 172.19.1.250 filename /lts/2.4*/pxelinux.0" "tftpd[4990]: sending NAK (1, File not found) to 172.19.1.250"
[17:49] <ScorpKing> got it. :) nvm
[17:51] <ScorpKing> now i get "this workstation isin't authorized to connect to server" on the clients
[17:51] <ScorpKing> isn't*
[18:04] <ScorpKing> nvm, problem solved here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/LTSPManagement
[19:04] <johnny> ogra_cmpc, the patch is now in libxklavier cvs
[19:04] <johnny> need to test it there, it got simplified
[19:06] <ogra_cmpc> great i'll hunt down seb tomorrow so he includes it
[19:27] <ScorpKing> how do i change the usplash theme for the thin clients?
[21:11] <Armagon> Greetings.  I've got an old iMac G3 with a bad battery for the internal clock.  I've set up a shell on screen 2 and ldm on screen 7.  It will not start ldm properly until I set the time (it thinks it is 1904) in the shell.
[21:12] <Armagon> I read somewhere that ubuntu runs ntpupdate in the startup process.  I installed ntp on my server, and I think I have properly configured things so the client can query it -- it works fine if I run "ntpupdate-debian" on the shell on the client.
[21:12] <Armagon> Does anyone, perchance, know if ntpupdate is really called during the startup process?  It doesn't seem to be mentioned in dmesg, and there is no /var/log/daemon.log on the client (although I don't know if it'd be mentioned there in any case.)
[21:18] <Armagon> Is there a way for me, in a shell script, to log something and have it show up in dmesg's output?
[21:22] <johnny> i wouldn't show up in dmesg..
[21:22] <johnny> it might show up in /var/log/messages tho
[21:22] <johnny> not daemon
[21:24] <Armagon> As root in the client shell, /var/log contains: Xorg.6.log Xorg.6.log.old fsck/ ldm.log news/
[21:24] <Armagon> darn.
[21:25] <Armagon> Hey, I can add a script and make it create a log file.  I would think it should have read/write access.
[21:36] <Armagon> Ok, it didn't work.
[21:37] <Armagon> I made a script called  /opt/ltsp/powerpc/etc/init.d/fixtime.sh
[21:37] <Armagon> #!/bin/sh
[21:37] <Armagon> (ntpdate-debian && date) > /var/log/fixtime.log
[21:37] <Armagon> I chmoded it to 755 (as the other files in the directory are)
[21:38] <Armagon> In /opt/ltsp/powerpc/etc/lts.conf, I added (previously): RCFILE_01=fixtime.sh
[21:38] <Armagon> Now that I have rebooted the client, the time is still wrong, and no /var/log/fixtime.log exists.
[21:39] <Armagon> I'm pretty sure my client is using NFS (and not NBD), so I didn't feel that need to run any post-processing steps; I just edited the file.
[21:39] <Armagon> Did I follow the correct steps to make a custom script run?
[22:23] <Armagon> It's been a half-hour since I posted my problem, but I got it to work!
[22:23] <Armagon> instead of using RCFILE_01 = fixtime.sh, I needed RCFILE_01 = /etc/init.d/fixtime.sh
[22:32] <Armagon> How can I allow users to log in to a different window manager, such as KDE?  (I installed edubuntu-desktop-kde on top of my edubuntu server, but that didn't add more options than just "default" for when a client logs in.)
[23:07]  * ScorpKing wonders if there's any clever people in this channel..
[23:36] <felipe__> Hello, could someone provide me the link for the edubuntu 7.10 dvd, from the edubuntu webpage I only found the hardy dvd.
[23:43] <Armagon> http://www.edubuntu.org/Download ought to work for you.
[23:43] <Armagon> oh dvd ...
[23:44] <ScorpKing> weird.. it sais 7.10 dvd but only hardy is there. heh
[23:44] <pygi> felipe__, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/7.10/release/edubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.iso
[23:44] <pygi> here
[23:44] <Armagon> Near the bottom of the page, where there are two links for DVDs, note that they say "current" on the end.
[23:45] <Armagon> Take the "current" off, and follow the link.  You should be able to choose gusty
[23:45] <pygi> Armagon, or just use my link xD
[23:45] <Armagon> Just use the link pygi provided.
[23:47] <ScorpKing> ah ok. now i see. ;)
[23:47] <felipe__> thanks for the link
[23:47] <ScorpKing> nite guys
[23:48] <felipe__> Im on a 1Megabit internet connection and Im downloading the dvd at 6kB/s.....
[23:48] <felipe__> sucks