[00:00] <psilocyde> what ever, its there.
[00:00] <toker> my firefox is complaining that i don't have the Java Runtime Environment installed.. and sends me to a page that doesn't have any .deb's  so which package do I need to install via adept or something?
[00:00] <toker> thanks. in advance
[00:00] <bizzeh> psilocyde: whatever, its not
[00:00] <bizzeh> it was GOING TO BE THERE
[00:00] <bizzeh> but isnt
[00:01] <Konner> Im about to reinstall Ubuntu and get rid of Kubuntu
[00:02] <psilocyde> look at the hdmi implementation
[00:04] <bizzeh> psilocyde: i dont have hdcp on my tv, yet my gfx can output 1080p over hdmi just fine on vista
[00:04] <NickPresta> !offtopic | bizzeh
[00:04] <ubotu> bizzeh: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:04] <psilocyde> its in the damn kernal
[00:04] <psilocyde> ok sorry
[00:04] <psilocyde> your right nick my appolagies
[00:04] <NickPresta> if you need help, that's fine, but this isn't the place to argue about Vista versus GNU+Linux.
[00:05] <psilocyde> yes i need help with this low sound thing
[00:06] <NickPresta> psilocyde, try typing in 'alsamixer' into a terminal and making sure your volume is all the way up
[00:06] <NickPresta> check out !sound too
[00:07] <psilocyde> ok master is at 00
[00:08] <psilocyde> how do i get that to 10?
[00:08] <sergiu> use google
[00:08] <sergiu> ;>
[00:09] <NickPresta> If you look at the bottom where it says Master or PCM, etc. There should be red brackets on either side of the 'selected' channel. Make sure there are red brackets surrounding the Master channel. Then just press the up arrows.
[00:09] <psilocyde> oh ok thanks
[00:10] <psilocyde> ok that works for all of them eccept master
[00:11] <psilocyde> !sound
[00:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:11] <NickPresta> psilocyde, hmm. I don't know anything off-hand that could be causing that. See if you can spot an applicable solution in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[00:14] <sergiu> can anyone play kab.tv ?
[00:14] <dariocoll> buenas..
[00:15] <prince_jammys> !es | dariocoll
[00:15] <ubotu> dariocoll: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:15] <NickPresta> sergiu, the video on the front page plays fine for me
[00:15] <sergiu> NickPresta, cool, but for me there is no video, don't know why..
[00:15] <NickPresta> sergiu, I'm using the mplayer plugin for Firefox
[00:15] <sergiu> i use default kubuntu 7.10 with Konq browser..
[00:16] <dariocoll> okay thanks
[00:24] <sergiu> :)
[00:25] <sergiu> work to me too now with mplayer plugin
[00:25] <Dark-Alien-Core> hey guys can you help me i? whats is there wrong
[00:25] <Dark-Alien-Core> Checking for convert...  no.
[00:26] <Dark-Alien-Core> ?
[00:27] <sergiu> use google.com
[00:27] <acee1234> is there a way to execute sudo level commands at logon?
[00:27] <Dark-Alien-Core> its a icon set i wanted to install
[00:28] <acee1234> a script of some sort
[00:28] <tekteen> acee1234: you would need to edit /etc/sudoers
[00:28] <root_______> hola me pueden decir como consigo la sala en español
[00:28] <NickPresta> !es |  root_______
[00:28] <ubotu> root_______: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:29] <psilocyde> hey folks, i think i may have found the answer to my problem
[00:29] <NickPresta> Dark-Alien-Core, you need the `convert` utility. Install the imagemagick package: sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[00:29] <psilocyde> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_make_sound_work_with_Intel_Integrated_Sound_Cards
[00:30] <psilocyde> how tdo i do that in kubuntu?
[00:30] <Dark-Alien-Core> ah very thx
[00:30] <psilocyde> thats for gtk right?
[00:30] <NickPresta> psilocyde, kdesudo instead of gksudo. You can use kate instead of gedit
[00:30] <psilocyde> ok thanks
[00:31] <Daisuke_Ido> psilocyde: nothing save gedit there is gtk specific
[00:31] <psilocyde> oh ok
[00:31] <r240> how do i get sound in gutsy?
[00:31] <acee1234> and can someone help me fix my graphics for some reason it fails at boot up and goes into low resolution mode i have ati x1400
[00:31] <NickPresta> !sound | r240
[00:31] <ubotu> r240: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:32] <r240> i have been troubleshooting this for days. already read pages of community support
[00:32] <r240> nothing has worked
[00:33] <tekteen> acee1234: add this to /etc/sudoers using visudo. This will allow you not to use a password for some commands. %admin ALL= NOPASSWD: PROGRAM1,PROGRAM2,ect
[00:33] <NickPresta> r240, you need to provide more information. If you need to, pastebin your full, detailed question and post it here with a summary of your problem
[00:33] <feierfox> hi
[00:33] <tekteen> hi
[00:34] <r240> here in chan?
[00:34] <NickPresta> !pastebin | r240
[00:34] <ubotu> r240: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:34] <NickPresta> pastebin your detailed question there. Post in the channel a summary (1 sentence) of your problem and attach the link
[00:34] <r240> gotcha
[00:34] <tekteen> r240: what type of card is it?
[00:34] <r240> sb live 5.1
[00:34] <acee1234> tekteen: thank you
[00:35] <r240> it's detected and everything
[00:35] <mrunagi> is kubuntu good with sata.........or does it typically need drivers
[00:35] <r240> i THINK i loaded the module
[00:35] <tekteen> acee1234: np
[00:35] <feierfox> is there an ubuntu off-topic-channel?
[00:35] <acee1234> if no one knows how to fix a graphics driver issue here were might i ask ive been trying to get it fixed for a week and it worked for a while so i know it should be possible to fix
[00:35] <tekteen> mrunagi: good
[00:35] <tekteen> feierfox: (k)ubuntu-offtopic
[00:35] <Konner> Im going to try openSUSE ..
[00:36] <feierfox> hmm, in an offtopic channel for the *buntuusers it makes no sense, to seperate both
[00:36] <feierfox> there should be only one offtopic channel
[00:36]  * feierfox so he said
[00:36] <tekteen> ok
[00:36] <NickPresta> Konner, you've posted twice in this channel that you're switching from Kubuntu to something else. Any reason why you keep telling us? :)
[00:36] <tekteen> well... whatever
[00:37] <r240> what's the cmd for listing devices? spci -v?
[00:37] <NickPresta> feierfox, KDE users and Gnome users don't get along, duh ;)
[00:37] <tekteen> lspci
[00:37] <feierfox> oh, i forget
[00:37] <feierfox> :D
[00:37] <r240> what about modules? modl?
[00:37] <feierfox> GNOME users a mostly trolls
[00:38] <feierfox> i in a kubuntu-channel here, so i think it is ok to say something like this
[00:38] <feierfox> :O
[00:38] <feierfox> i'm
[00:38] <tekteen> you have been taught well
[00:38] <feierfox> but we are the unwanted kind
[00:38] <MrJoey> r240> lspci and lsmod
[00:39] <r240> thanks
[00:39] <feierfox> we don't got LTS
[00:39] <feierfox> :´
[00:39] <feierfox> :´(
[00:39] <MrJoey> -v makes lspci verbose
[00:40] <MrJoey> How do I extract a Kubuntu Live CD, edit some scripts, and put it back together?  I know how to mount and recursive copy, but how do I get the boot stuff, too?
[00:40] <feierfox> needs KDE3.5x more resources than GNOME 2.2x?
[00:41] <tekteen> MrJoey: I will find the wiki page
[00:41] <MrJoey> Thank you
[00:42] <acee1234> so fastest solution for graphics issue is reformat?
[00:42] <tekteen> MrJoey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[00:43] <tekteen> MrJoey: what do you want to edit?
[00:43] <tekteen> MrJoey: I have done it before :-)
[00:43] <Arwen> feierfox, less actually
[00:43] <Arwen> though running Firefox will easily make up that difference...
[00:43] <r240> no sound even though everything looks fine. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57646/
[00:44] <acee1234> tekteen: how do i edit through that all i see is mode commands
[00:44]  * tekteen does not understand
[00:45] <tekteen> acee1234: what do you mean?
[00:45] <MrJoey> This would be the best case:  I'd like a live CD that will have a new menu option which will go to the single user level, then run a script (which will image a hard drive with a 2.4GB .gz file and a few tiny files).
[00:45] <acee1234> tekteen: how do i add lines to the sudoers file through visudo i dont see an edit option in the man
[00:46] <BluesKaj> heh, after this language pack fiasco .. a few good things took place subsequent to the clean install. Konq actaully does flash, java and xine  quite well
[00:46] <tekteen> acee1234: type visudo
[00:46] <rodolfo> como era el canal en español?
[00:46] <MrJoey> Although if creating a new menu option would be hard, it would be acceptable to simply replace the single user mode
[00:46] <acee1234> tekteen: ....im going to bash my head on a wall now
[00:46] <rodolfo> alguien habla español?
[00:47] <tekteen> acee1234: why?
[00:47] <tekteen> !es|rodolfo
[00:47] <ubotu> rodolfo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:47] <derdui_> does anybody know the programm "hotbabe" i found it in the package list on the medibuntu homepage but i cant find anything about it
[00:47] <acee1234> tekteen: ...graphics are doing strange things and i missed the obvious visudo
[00:48] <tekteen> ?
[00:48] <tekteen> what happened
[00:49] <tekteen> acee1234: explain what is going on
[00:50] <MrJoey> What does the "rsync --exclude=/casper/filesystem.squashfs -a mnt/ extract-cd" do?  It ran rather quickly.  Did it create a bunch of hardlinks for the files instead of deep copying?
[00:50] <tekteen> no
[00:50] <tekteen> it excludes the big thing
[00:50] <tekteen> and copies everything else
[00:51] <server_> hi
[00:51] <acee1234> tekteen: when i reboot the screen goes to a console like thing several times then i get an x-server BSOD then thats goes away when you tell it not to debug then it tries a few more times and eventually comes up with a dialog telling me im in low graphics mode.
[00:51] <MrJoey> ah
[00:52] <tekteen> acee1234: I have no idea
[00:53] <r240> i have 44k songs and no sound. please help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57647/
[00:53] <acee1234> tekteen:  seems a common response seems reformat is the general consensus
[00:53] <tekteen> acee1234: I do not like to say that
[00:54] <acee1234> tekteen:  suggestions, for alternative?
[00:54] <tekteen> acee1234: I try to stop people when they are about to (if I know how to fix it) but never recommend it
[00:54] <tekteen> acee1234: first off... are you in canada
[00:54] <acee1234> tekteen: understood
[00:54] <BluesKaj> !EMU10k1
[00:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emu10k1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:55] <acee1234> tekteen: no im in a dessart like are called lubbock texas
[00:55] <tekteen> ok
[00:55] <acee1234> tekteen: usa
[00:55] <tekteen> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:55] <tekteen> in the terminal
[00:55] <acee1234> ok
[00:56] <frado> hey
[00:56] <BluesKaj> tekteen:  the language pack didn't just affect candians . I did a clean install yesterday using NYC USA as my location, my system got borked anyway .:P
[00:56] <tekteen> ok
[00:56] <tekteen> thanks
[00:57] <tekteen> how do you fix it?
[00:57] <nosredna_ekim> acee1234» lubbock? isn't that close to where our Dear Leader came from?
[00:57] <tekteen> frado: hi
[00:58] <acee1234> nosredna_ekim: King George II? yes i believe you are correct
[00:58] <nosredna_ekim> acee1234» III
[00:58] <nosredna_ekim> XD
[00:59] <BluesKaj> someone on launchpad give us the fix ...uninstall the language-pack-kde-en-base and language-pack-en base
[00:59] <tekteen> ok
[00:59] <BluesKaj> err language-pack-en-base
[00:59] <tekteen> I am used to typos
[01:00] <tekteen> I mke them alot :-)
[01:00] <BluesKaj> just in case someone copies and pastes
[01:00] <simcop2387-lap> i've got a quick question i haven't found an answer for,  i've got a "quick launch" applet on a panel and its set to automatically fill with the programs i use most often but its not filling up, anyone got any ideas of what i might have setup wrong?
[01:00] <acee1234> tekteen: ok i did that
[01:00] <tekteen> acee1234: does it now work?
[01:01] <acee1234> tekteen : fglrxinfo returns Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:01] <tekteen> ok
[01:02] <BluesKaj> correction : language-pack-kde-en-base and language-pack-kde-en for those of you wanting to fix the problematic upgrade
[01:02] <nosredna_ekim> !langpack
[01:02] <ubotu> A recent update broke some KDE language packs, leaving the user unable to login. (http://launchpad.net/bugs/195647) To fix this, remove the updated packages (language-pack-kde-en, language-pack-kde-en-base) and restart KDE.
[01:02] <acee1234> tekteen: is there a way to restore factor default on display?
[01:03] <BluesKaj> right on nosredna_ekim
[01:03] <tekteen> acee1234: find the section Module in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:03] <MrJoey> When the [K]ubuntu Live CD starts, how does the "single" argument trickle down so that the runlevel is set accordingly?
[01:03] <nosredna_ekim> MrJoey» hum.... don't know. Did you get your boot device stuff all sorted out?
[01:03] <tekteen> MrJoey: runlevel is set in /etc/init.d/rc
[01:04] <acee1234> tekteen: no such section exists
[01:04] <tekteen> acee1234: ok
[01:04] <tekteen> so
[01:04] <tekteen> add these 3 lines to the bottom
[01:04] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: you saved me from that.  i read your post and when the update showed up in adept, i didn't install it
[01:04] <tekteen> Section "Module"
[01:04] <tekteen>         Load            "glx"
[01:04] <tekteen> EndSection
[01:05] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: so thanks :)
[01:05] <acee1234> tekteen: copy that in there?
[01:05] <BluesKaj> hey NP prince_jammys :)
[01:05] <tekteen> acee1234: yep
[01:06] <MrJoey> MrJoey» hum.... don't know. Did you get your boot device stuff all sorted out? ==> I can't test it on the target computer right now
[01:06] <acee1234> tekteen: ok
[01:06] <tekteen> acee1234: save and restart x
[01:06] <BluesKaj> prince_jammys: one thing good that came out of that mess was konq is no longer crashing and nspluginviewer isn't as unstable as it was
[01:06] <acee1234> tekteen: i cant restart x without crashing so ill reboot brb
[01:07] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: good. i don't have those problems, thankfully
[01:07] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: funny thing is i was about to install the updates when i saw your post here
[01:07] <BluesKaj> yeah, I think that was a problem with kde 3.5.9
[01:08] <BluesKaj> well forwarned is forarmed :)
[01:08] <tekteen> BluesKaj: I never had the problem
[01:08] <prince_jammys> i'm pretty wary of updates in general
[01:09] <BluesKaj> blessing in disguise for me
[01:09] <prince_jammys> i like to wait around for a while, especially with dist-upgrade
[01:09] <tekteen> I don't
[01:09] <BluesKaj> was frustrating not getting access to the tty or login
[01:10]  * tekteen likes to be on the bleeding edge
[01:10] <prince_jammys> hardy?
[01:10] <tekteen> not off it :-)
[01:10] <prince_jammys> ha
[01:10] <BluesKaj> what's a good DL manager for konq besides kget ?
[01:11] <tekteen> hardy is very unstable
[01:11] <tekteen> last I checked in Alpha 4
[01:13] <sarah__> whats the kubuntu equivalent of restricted drivers manager
[01:13] <tekteen> the restricted drivers manager
[01:13] <sarah__> ah! how do i locate that
[01:14] <willis_> its in the menus i thought :) or i always just run 'restricted-manager'
[01:14] <tekteen> sarah__: sytemsettings > advanced tab > restricted drivers
[01:14] <sarah__> thx
[01:14] <tekteen> np
[01:14] <tekteen> sarah__: finally a girl who uses ubuntu :-)
[01:14] <sarah__> hmmm not there
[01:15] <tekteen> ok
[01:15] <tekteen> in gutsy?
[01:15] <sarah__> hardy
[01:15] <willis_> !find restricted-manager
[01:15] <ubotu> Found: restricted-manager, restricted-manager-core, restricted-manager-kde
[01:16] <sarah__> ah thx, must burn another CD hehe
[01:16] <tekteen> !find restricted-manager hardy
[01:16] <willis_> gksu -D /usr/share/applications/jockey-gtk.desktop /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[01:16] <ubotu> Found: jockey-common, jockey-gtk, jockey-kde
[01:16] <willis_> is what my hardy launches :)
[01:16] <willis_> under gnome at least.
[01:16] <tekteen> jockey-kde
[01:16] <sarah__> burnt jockey-kde, but wouldnt install cause python-central version was too old
[01:16] <willis_> its called 'hardware  drivers' in the gnome  system menu.
[01:16] <Roey> hi
[01:17] <Roey> anyone here good with lftp?
[01:17] <Roey> hey willis_
[01:17] <Roey> DocWillis ?
[01:17] <nosredna_ekim> !hardy | sarah__
[01:17] <ubotu> sarah__: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:17] <tekteen> Roey: what do you need help with in lftp
[01:17] <Roey> ah
[01:17] <sarah__> ah thx
[01:17] <acee1234> tekteen: ok that fixed alot of the issuesnow how do i load xorg
[01:18] <tekteen> acee1234: what are you looking at now?
[01:18] <acee1234> tekteen: or what every it takes to run compiz on ati
[01:18] <Roey> I tried this:  lftp www.resource.com:~home/misc> mirror "DIR1" "DIR2" "DIR3",  But got "Mirror: Access failed: 404 Not Found (~home/misc/DIR1/subdir1)" (subdir1/ is a subdirectory of DIR1).  Any suggestions?
[01:18] <Roey> tekteen:  that
[01:18] <tekteen> acee1234: the driver is already installed
[01:18] <acee1234> ok ill give it a go
[01:19] <willis_> I dont use lftp :)
[01:19] <Roey> ok
[01:19] <Roey> :)
[01:19] <r240> how do i write to alsa-base?
[01:19] <tekteen> Roey: the page can not be found
[01:19] <nosredna_ekim> !search qt (edgy)
[01:19] <ubotu> Found: flavors, java-#kubuntu, qt, maps, gui, disks, mount-#kubuntu, players, browsers, directconnect
[01:19] <tekteen> Roey: it does not exist
[01:19] <nosredna_ekim> !info qt (edgy)
[01:19] <acee1234> tekteen: compiz failed
[01:19] <ubotu> Package qt does not exist in edgy
[01:19] <tekteen> acee1234: what happened?
[01:19] <nosredna_ekim> !info qt-designer (edgy)
[01:19] <ubotu> Package qt-designer does not exist in edgy
[01:19] <Roey> tekteen:  but I can browse to it with my web browser so I see it does indeed exist.
[01:20] <tekteen> !qt4-designer
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt4-designer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <acee1234> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[01:20] <acee1234> No whitelisted driver found
[01:20] <acee1234> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[01:20] <tekteen> !info qt4-designer
[01:20] <ubotu> qt4-designer (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 Designer. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.2 (gutsy), package size 1220 kB, installed size 2232 kB
[01:20] <tekteen> acee1234: does it work?
[01:20] <nosredna_ekim> !info qt4-designer (edgy)
[01:21] <ubotu> qt4-designer (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 Designer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 1051 kB, installed size 1904 kB
[01:21] <acee1234> tekteen: no needs fglrx or xgl
[01:21] <tekteen> it needs both
[01:21] <Roey> tekteen:  ok, any suggestions?  (I stated  my problem above)
[01:22] <tekteen> try fgl_gears, acee1234
[01:22] <tekteen> Roey: the page does not exist
[01:22] <Roey> tekteen:  yes but I can browse to it.
[01:22] <Roey> in my web browser.
[01:23] <tekteen> I can't
[01:23] <Roey> well that's an example, not a real http server ;)
[01:23] <tekteen> ok
[01:23] <tekteen> well you still got a 404
[01:24] <acee1234> tekteen: command not found
[01:24] <tekteen> prob because of cookie management
[01:24] <tekteen> acee1234: what commands start with fgl?
[01:24] <acee1234> tekeen none
[01:25] <tekteen> acee1234: type restricted-manager-kde in the konsole
[01:26] <tekteen> acee1234: enable the graphics driver (tell me when you are done)
[01:27] <tekteen> acee1234: you doing it?
[01:27] <acee1234> yes
[01:28] <acee1234> needs another reboot brb
[01:28] <tekteen> no
[01:28] <tekteen> type ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:29] <acee1234> tekteen: will probably freeze but ill try
[01:29] <acee1234> brb
[01:32] <root_______> kubuntu-es
[01:32] <acee1234> tekteen back were we started with all the errors "you scrren and graphics card cannot be detected"
[01:32] <crimsun_> Roey: note the mirror operation's syntax
[01:34] <Roey> crimsun_:  oh?
[01:34] <Roey> tekteen:  how could it be a cookie issue, this is a simple directory index
[01:35] <tekteen> Roey: I am not sure what the problem is
[01:35] <tekteen> !X
[01:35] <tekteen> ubotu is dead
[01:35] <Roey> tekteen:  ok, so I tried "mirror DIR1", and I got back " "Mirror: Access failed: 404 Not Found (~home/misc/DIR1/subdir1)"
[01:36] <Roey> DIR1 has a bunch of subdirs under it
[01:36] <tekteen> Roey: why not try to use konqueror first
[01:37] <Roey> tekteen:  I did, and it works fine.
[01:37] <tekteen> Roey: ok
[01:37] <tekteen> I do not know
[01:37] <Roey> tekteen:  I don't know how to download entire directory trees off of Apache direcotry indecies.
[01:37] <Roey> ok
[01:37] <Roey> tekteen:  thanks anyway :)
[01:37] <crimsun_> wget, no-parent, recursive
[01:37] <tekteen> Roey: so you have ssh access?
[01:37] <Roey> I don't think so
[01:37] <crimsun_> or curl.  or whatever.
[01:38] <Roey> crimsun_:  how would curl help
[01:38] <tekteen> crimsun_: thanks
[01:38] <crimsun_> Roey: vice wget?
[01:39] <Roey> crimsun_:  I tried wget.
[01:40] <crimsun_> with which options?
[01:40] <Roey> crimsun_:  wget -np --cut-dirs=2
[01:40] <Roey> crimsun_:  Is there some flag to tell wget not to replicate antyhing above the last dir in the parameter you specify?
[01:40] <Roey> i.e.
[01:40] <crimsun_> Roey: that's -np
[01:41] <Roey> wget -r http://www.resource.com/a/b/c/d/DIRS/
[01:41] <Roey> would just place "DIRS" in .
[01:41] <Roey> with -np, I still get ./a/b/c/d/DIRS
[01:41] <acee1234> does anyone here have a e1505 with a ati x1400 who could pastebin their xorg file?
[01:43] <yao_ziyuan> currently, any app that first requests to use the audio device will occupy it exclusively
[01:43] <yao_ziyuan> how do i let multiple apps share the same audio device at the same time?
[01:44] <aib> using KWifiManager and Wifi-Radar, lots of networks are seen but I don't have the option to connect to any of them. My card is automatically detected and uses the atheros driver (Netgear wg511t)
[01:45] <aib> it seems related that when i open knetworkmanager, nothing happens
[01:46] <willis_> !info fuseiso
[01:46] <nosredna_ekim> aib» comment out all entries from "/etc/network/interfaces"
[01:46] <ubotu> fuseiso (source: fuseiso): FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 20070507-1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 92 kB
[01:47] <crimsun_> Roey: in your example, -r -np -nH --cut-dirs=4
[01:52] <Ick> how do i access files on a USB mass storage device? dmesg recognizes it, but i don't know what part to mount
[01:55] <nzk> Is it a bad idea to put a shell script that'll apt-get update and upgrade on cron?
[01:55] <purge_kdewallet> i am unable to purge kde wallet, i tried removing .kde/share/config/k*wallet* and nothing is working, can someone help me (its not in synaptic either)?
[01:56] <Dragnslcr> nzk- why not just use Adept's notifier?
[01:56] <nzk> Dragnslcr: Laziness, I guess.
[01:56] <Dragnslcr> It's what, three clicks?
[01:58] <BluesKaj> adept notifier is on ice here til the devs get their stuff together after yesterdays mess
[01:58] <purge_kdewallet> i am not able to purge kde wallet, i tried removing .kde/share/config/k*wallet* and nothing works, can someone help me (its not in synaptic/apt-get either)?
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> What mess was that?
[01:59] <nosredna_ekim> Ick» dmesg should tell where it is "/dev/sdxx"
[02:00] <purge_kdewallet> sudo apt-get remove kdewallet fails to find it on the system, yet kvpnc keeps prompting me with it
[02:01] <purge_kdewallet> can anyone help me?
[02:01] <purge_kdewallet> its a KDE problem in Ubuntu
[02:02] <khaije1> purge_kdewallet: y do you even want to purge it?
[02:02] <purge_kdewallet> yes
[02:02] <purge_kdewallet> i want it to stop bugging me
[02:02] <purge_kdewallet> whenever i use kvpnc
[02:02] <purge_kdewallet> or for anything else in the future...this is supposed to be linux...you are supposed to be able to remove things that you don't want
[02:02] <khaije1> if thats the case you should set kvpnc to be able to access it w/o prompt
[02:02] <purge_kdewallet> i can't even find the binary to delete
[02:02] <Roey> crimsun_:  ah ok
[02:02] <Roey> crimsun_:  what is -nH
[02:02] <purge_kdewallet> tried that, didn't work
[02:02] <Roey> I can go check actually
[02:02] <Roey> and why --cut-dirs=4
[02:02] <Roey> ?
[02:03] <Roey> Can't it do it automatically?
[02:03] <khaije1> if you remove it entirely you'll lose the password caching ability
[02:03] <purge_kdewallet> that what i want
[02:03] <Y-Town> Has anyone experienced any problems with loading the kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu?
[02:03] <khaije1> purge_kdewallet: ok, i'll check on my system and brb
[02:03] <nosredna_ekim> Y-Town» ussually not
[02:03] <purge_kdewallet> ok, thanks
[02:05] <Y-Town> nosredna_ekim: Thanks.  I was thinking of that and using synaptic and removing adapt.
[02:05] <tanner> what packages do i need to compile Qt applications?
[02:05] <khaije1> purge_kdewallet: i think this is the wrong approach, but if you're set on removing the functionality try removing kde-pwmanager as well
[02:06] <purge_kdewallet> let me try that now
[02:06] <purge_kdewallet> Package kde-pwmanager is not installed, so not removed
[02:07] <purge_kdewallet> by the way, i am not using any third party repositories
[02:08] <Roey> crimsun_:  thanks :)
[02:08] <nosredna_ekim> tanner» probably libqt-dev
[02:08] <raghuram> how is it going guys
[02:08] <raghuram> hahahahaha
[02:09] <raghuram> lol
[02:09] <raghuram> im soo funny
[02:09] <Apple_Cat_> ...?
[02:09] <purge_kdewallet> any other ideas khaije1?
[02:09] <Dragnslcr> purge_kdewallet- in kvpnc, go to Settings -> Configure kvpnc -> General
[02:10] <purge_kdewallet> i keep unchecking that
[02:10] <khaije1> purge_kdewallet: whats the exact message you get?
[02:10] <purge_kdewallet> it doesn't save it
[02:10] <purge_kdewallet> that was it above
[02:10] <tanner> nosredna_ekim: perhaps you mean libqt4-dev, however that is already installed
[02:10] <purge_kdewallet> i'll repost here:
[02:10] <purge_kdewallet> Package kde-pwmanager is not installed, so not removed
[02:10] <nosredna_ekim> tanner» so whats missing?
[02:11] <khaije1> purge_kdewallet: no, when you try that for kallet
[02:11] <nosredna_ekim> tanner» I was meaning qt3 programs...but that works for qt4
[02:11] <tanner> nosredna_ekim: there is no such package for qt3 however
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> purge_kdewallet- that option stays checked?
[02:11] <purge_kdewallet> in kvpnc
[02:11] <purge_kdewallet> the option in kvpnc to use kwallet won't save me unchecking using it
[02:12] <tanner> hmm i may have found it
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> purge_kdewallet- I remember having problems with kvpnc not saving settings, so I think that problem is specific to kvpnc
[02:12] <purge_kdewallet> that is why i want to purge kwallet
[02:12] <purge_kdewallet> so it will never bring up this stupid bot-like program again
[02:12] <tanner> damn
[02:13] <khaije1> purge_kdewallet: i need to go but i would say verify your package manager is in a consistent state
[02:13] <khaije1> bbl
[02:13] <purge_kdewallet> its fine because i can add and remove programs fine
[02:13] <purge_kdewallet> there are no half way installed program
[02:13] <purge_kdewallet> *s
[02:13] <Dragnslcr> purge_kdewallet- kwallet is how KDE saves passwords. It may be part of the KDE core
[02:13] <nosredna_ekim> tanner» humm true...
[02:13] <purge_kdewallet> darn, that stinks
[02:13] <purge_kdewallet> the only kde app i use is konqueror
[02:14] <purge_kdewallet> because it is the only one that does all protocols visually
[02:14] <purge_kdewallet> (aka fish, smb, etc)
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> Or not
[02:14] <Arwen> what's fish:// do?
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> Did you try uninstalling kwalletmanager?
[02:14] <purge_kdewallet> it uses scp through ssh
[02:14] <Arwen> oh
[02:14] <purge_kdewallet> its like an ftp over ssh
[02:14] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, i tried that
[02:15] <purge_kdewallet> here is what i get
[02:15] <Arwen> how does one get "fish" from "scp"?
[02:15] <purge_kdewallet> Package kwalletmanager is not installed, so not removed
[02:15] <Arwen> or more likely "sftp"
[02:15] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, one of those
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> purge_kdewallet- what does the entry in Adept say?
[02:15] <purge_kdewallet> fish is the protocol konqueror uses to access that through scp, or sftp
[02:16] <purge_kdewallet> Adept, I don't have that installed
[02:16] <purge_kdewallet> i am using Xubuntu
[02:16] <purge_kdewallet> and installed konqueror on it and kvpnc, which must have given me the kde-core as reqs
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> You aren't running KDE?
[02:16] <purge_kdewallet> i am running Xubuntu
[02:16] <purge_kdewallet> not KDE X
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> Installing kvpnc was probably not a good idea then
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> Since it's specifically for KDE
[02:17] <purge_kdewallet> is there an alternative?
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> For XFCE, I have no idea
[02:17] <purge_kdewallet> i think that is the only vpn GUI app for linux
[02:17] <purge_kdewallet> XFCE has nothing, its just a lightweight X
[02:18] <purge_kdewallet> the rest is KDE and GNOME
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> XFCE is gtk-based, you'd use whatever gtk+ app is available
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> probably a gnome app
[02:18] <purge_kdewallet> nope
[02:19] <purge_kdewallet> there are no alternatives
[02:19] <purge_kdewallet> just checked synatpic
[02:19] <purge_kdewallet> *synaptic
[02:19] <Arwen> purge_kdewallet, what are you looking for? a password manager?
[02:19] <purge_kdewallet> no, i wanted to remove my password manager
[02:19] <purge_kdewallet> and keep kvpnc
[02:19] <Arwen> oh
[02:20] <purge_kdewallet> maybe you know where the kwallet binary is located
[02:20] <purge_kdewallet> so i can format it off my hard disk?
[02:20] <purge_kdewallet> :)
[02:21] <purge_kdewallet> there is nothing on the whole internet how to remove kwallet
[02:21] <Arwen> I have no kwallet so I presume it can be nuked
[02:21] <Firefishe> When using apt-get or synaptic to install the grip cd ripper/encoder and one of it's library files, I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/921488 .  Note the `writerscafe' line.  This filename isn't related to the grip install at all, it's from a previous package's install.
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> purge_kdewallet- have you tried looking for it in a shell?
[02:22] <purge_kdewallet> yeah
[02:22] <purge_kdewallet> tried k*wall*
[02:22] <purge_kdewallet> and lots of other combinations as well as browsing /usr/bin
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> If kwa<tab> doesn't give anything, I would assume it isn't installed
[02:23] <purge_kdewallet> it keeps bugging me with kvpnc
[02:23] <purge_kdewallet> because kvpnc can't save its settings, which is another bug altogether
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> kwallet is actually running?
[02:24] <purge_kdewallet> let me check  htop
[02:24] <purge_kdewallet> nope
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> Or is it just complaining that it can't find it?
[02:24] <purge_kdewallet> its on the system somewhere
[02:24] <purge_kdewallet> because the GUI still bugs me
[02:25] <purge_kdewallet> could it be part of the kde network manager?
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> Did you try locate kwalletmanager?
[02:25] <purge_kdewallet> under /usr/bin?
[02:25] <purge_kdewallet> no such file
[02:25] <purge_kdewallet> kwall*
[02:25] <Arwen> kwallet is in kwalletmanager....
[02:25] <Arwen> which should be in /usr/bin
[02:26] <purge_kdewallet> nope, searched a ls kwall*
[02:26] <Dragnslcr> locate kwalletmanager
[02:26] <Dragnslcr> Run that in a shell
[02:26] <purge_kdewallet> no such file there in /usr/bin
[02:26] <purge_kdewallet> i did, ran it in terminal
[02:26] <purge_kdewallet> Note, selecting kwalletmanager for regex 'kwallet*'
[02:26] <purge_kdewallet> E: Couldn't find package kwallet*
[02:27] <purge_kdewallet> thats when i try to remove using apt-get
[02:27] <Dragnslcr> I doubt that kwallet is actually running, since it clearly isn't on your system
[02:28] <purge_kdewallet> let me open kvpnc and give you what is in the GUi
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> I find it more likely that kvpnc is complaining about not being able to find kwalletmanager
[02:28] <purge_kdewallet> i would too imagine that would be the case
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> kvpnc seemed to be a bit buggy when I tried it
[02:29] <purge_kdewallet> i agree
[02:29] <purge_kdewallet> which there were an alternative
[02:29] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, its very buggy
[02:29] <purge_kdewallet> poorly programmed
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> I couldn't get a VPN connection setup either
[02:30] <purge_kdewallet> i got it working a while ago
[02:30] <purge_kdewallet> and lost the config when i reformatted
[02:30] <Dragnslcr> Fortunately my office has an SSH port open that I can tunnel rdc through
[02:30] <purge_kdewallet> i am having to do that now to bypass this vpn problem
[02:31] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, the KDE Wallet Service pops up
[02:31] <purge_kdewallet> it says "The application 'kvpnc' has requested to open the wallet 'kdewallet'. Please enter the password for this wallet below."
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> That's weird
[02:32] <purge_kdewallet> i have to hit cancel twice for it to go away
[02:32] <purge_kdewallet> its very annoying, Windows annoying
[02:33] <nosredna_ekim> purge_kdewallet» you know... there is a way to make it go away.... give it a blank passowrd
[02:33] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, but apparently i set one some time ago
[02:33] <purge_kdewallet> and forgot
[02:34] <Creationist> Could someone recommend a decent way to play .midi files?  Apparently Ubuntu doesn't support them ootb.
[02:34] <purge_kdewallet> tried clearing all .../.kde/share/config/kwall* files
[02:34] <purge_kdewallet> that didn't stop the GUI from bother me though
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> sudo locate -u
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> locate kwalletmanager
[02:34] <purge_kdewallet> /usr/share/app-install/icons/kwalletmanager.png
[02:34] <purge_kdewallet> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kwalletmanager.desktop
[02:34] <purge_kdewallet> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kwalletmanager-kwalletd.desktop
[02:35] <purge_kdewallet> thats it it says
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> Uh, wow
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> You did locate -u right?
[02:36] <purge_kdewallet> i did that before
[02:36] <purge_kdewallet> how long should i wait for the locate -u to work?
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> Until it finishes
[02:37] <purge_kdewallet> ouch, this may take some waiting
[02:37] <purge_kdewallet> i let it run for 1 min and killed it
[02:37] <purge_kdewallet> thats why it only found the three then
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it might take a while if you have a slower processor or a whole lot of files
[02:37] <compilerwriter2> Anyone having any problems with KDE 3.5.9?   Are there a great deal of improvements in it?
[02:38] <purge_kdewallet> compilerwriter2, you can download kde 4.0 now, you know that right?
[02:38] <purge_kdewallet> /usr/share/app-install/icons/kwalletmanager.png
[02:38] <purge_kdewallet> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kwalletmanager.desktop
[02:38] <purge_kdewallet> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kwalletmanager-kwalletd.desktop
[02:38] <hw194d> compilerwriter2  there shouldn't be any problems
[02:38] <purge_kdewallet> still only those three files
[02:38] <nosredna_ekim> compilerwriter2» scattered problems....no improvements that I can tell
[02:38] <compilerwriter2> pruge_kdewallet I just saw the link to 3.5.9 in the topic and thought that 4 was still under development.
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> compilerwriter2» the major change was the enterprise PIM, but kubuntu already had that
[02:39] <purge_kdewallet> it might still be beta, but its been released beta
[02:39] <hw194d> compilerwriter2  kde4 is still beta
[02:39] <ChaosMachine> Just to make sure..I can't remove/write anything to a mounted NTFS drive can I?
[02:39] <hw194d> very beta
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> compilerwriter2» well, they have released 3 versions... but it is still in heavy development (though I am using it)
[02:39] <compilerwriter2> Is KDE 4 stable at this point
[02:39] <Dragnslcr> No, KDE is at 4.0.1
[02:39] <purge_kdewallet> some programs, such as ktorrent require KDE4
[02:39] <Dragnslcr> KDE$, that is
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> KDE4
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> Bleh, bad night for me, obviously
[02:40] <purge_kdewallet> so my system can't find any kwalletmanager huh?
[02:40] <purge_kdewallet> huh = depressed breathing out
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> purge_kdewallet- yeah, I'm stumped. I can't think of where else the executable could be
[02:41] <purge_kdewallet> it is terrible if this were to be EMBEDDED
[02:41] <Scott7> How do you flush your dns?
[02:41] <purge_kdewallet> its like a DLL file on Windows or something
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> I have /usr/bin/kwalletmanager
[02:41] <purge_kdewallet> nope, nothing in that folder by that name or any other kwall*
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, that's bizarre
[02:43] <purge_kdewallet> and its a freshly installed Ubuntu
[02:43] <Creationist> How can I play .midi files in Linux?
[02:43] <Arwen> !midi
[02:43] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:43] <Arwen> you need a software midi table
[02:44] <purge_kdewallet> Creationist, I bypassed that problem by sending the midi to my phone over bluetootoh
[02:44] <Creationist> purge_kdewallet: That's giving up, not bypassing.
[02:45] <Scott7> How do you flush your dns?
[02:45] <purge_kdewallet> oh, its a thin line, i got the midi playing somehow
[02:45] <purge_kdewallet> Scott7, try a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:45] <purge_kdewallet> have you tried that yet?
[02:46] <Scott7> Thanks that got it
[02:47] <purge_kdewallet> Welcome!
[02:47] <purge_kdewallet> darn, i can't even purge kpvnc
[02:47] <purge_kdewallet> sudo apt-get purge kvpnc says it purges
[02:48] <purge_kdewallet> upon reinstall the configuration files are still there
[02:48] <willis_> You are refering to the USERS config files?
[02:49] <willis_> or system config files?
[02:49] <purge_kdewallet> both
[02:49] <purge_kdewallet> the purge should at least remove the users config files
[02:49] <purge_kdewallet> which is what i want first
[02:49] <purge_kdewallet> then if possible, the root's config files
[02:50] <willis_> lets clarify.. removiung packages with the package manager will NOT NOT NOT touch config files in the users home dirs.
[02:50] <purge_kdewallet> darn, thats a shame
[02:50] <willis_> and thus.. Not touch config files in the /root/ dir either
[02:50] <purge_kdewallet> it should have a -override flag
[02:50] <willis_> Its not a shame..it would be a disaster if it did otherwise. :)
[02:50] <purge_kdewallet> well, maybe, there should be a way to purge a software's configure files
[02:51] <willis_> 'oops the root user just removed my .vimrc' i spent 4 yrs making... :)
[02:51] <willis_> Now the prolifferation of config files in the users home dir - is getting to be an issue.
[02:51] <purge_kdewallet> i hate having to clean it myself
[02:52] <purge_kdewallet> after removing programs, its like taking out the trash
[02:53] <purge_kdewallet> dpkg purges files
[02:53] <purge_kdewallet> not apt-get, forgot that both have purge commands, yet they do different things i think
[02:57] <willis_> they both remove the system config files...
[02:57] <willis_> not user config files.
[02:57] <purge_kdewallet> oh, ok
[02:58] <willis_> and even THEN they 'should' (i think) backup config files you have changed manually
[02:58] <purge_kdewallet> i think the less auto, the better
[02:58] <willis_> In linux rember 'users and the system' are as seperated as they can get it.
[02:58] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, /home
[02:58] <purge_kdewallet> and other dirs in the root /
[02:58] <willis_> and YES the users home dirs are getting way way too cluttered with 10000+ .config files.
[02:59] <willis_> every little trivial app makes a .whatever config file it seems
[02:59] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, and doesn't necessarily clean it
[03:01] <ForzaPalermo> anyone here good with getting ssh working properly? i am trying to get it to work using public/private keys
[03:02] <purge_kdewallet> ForzaPalermo: are you trying to change the size of the ssh keys
[03:03] <Arwen> I'm writing a shell script and I want it to pause for an arbitrary length of time (like 10 seconds)
[03:03] <Arwen> how would I do that?
[03:03] <NickPresta> Arwen, `sleep`?
[03:03] <Arwen> ah, yes, that's what I was thinking of
[03:03] <NickPresta> :)
[03:04] <ForzaPalermo> purge_kdewallet, no
[03:04] <ForzaPalermo> i got ssh to work without the keys
[03:04] <purge_kdewallet> wow
[03:04] <ForzaPalermo> but with them i have errors
[03:05] <purge_kdewallet> i didn't think that was possible with ssh
[03:05] <purge_kdewallet> so its like a telnet session?
[03:05] <ForzaPalermo> purge_kdewallet, ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[03:05] <ForzaPalermo> thats what i get when i type SSH LOCALHOST
[03:05] <ForzaPalermo> but im not using port 22
[03:06] <purge_kdewallet> that is using keys
[03:06] <ForzaPalermo> and i dont have port 22 in the config file
[03:06] <purge_kdewallet> oh, ok, i was just about to suggest checking that config file
[03:06] <purge_kdewallet> you know you have to edit the /etc/ssh/sshd.conf, not ssh.conf
[03:06] <clinton> hrm.. no #kubuntu+1 channel eh?
[03:06] <ForzaPalermo> yes
[03:06] <purge_kdewallet> okay, just checking
[03:07] <purge_kdewallet> (common problems)
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> ForzaPalermo- if you don't specify a different port, ssh will try to connect on port 22
[03:07] <ForzaPalermo> Dragnslcr, i did
[03:07] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, i have had the same problem
[03:07] <ForzaPalermo> specfiy a diff port
[03:07] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, i had to use the -p 22 to let it use the default
[03:08] <ForzaPalermo> i ran a sudo nmap localhost
[03:08] <ForzaPalermo> and under the port i use
[03:08] <ForzaPalermo> it says unknown
[03:08] <purge_kdewallet> thats really odd, i would play with the config file
[03:08] <purge_kdewallet> try putting port 0 and a port larger than 65535
[03:08] <ForzaPalermo> what else is there to play with
[03:08] <purge_kdewallet> see if it gives the same error
[03:09] <compilerwriter2> If one has installed a generic kubuntu system are they utilizing a journaling file system?
[03:09] <purge_kdewallet> it might be a problem with the latest version of ssh
[03:09] <ForzaPalermo> so change ports u think?
[03:09] <purge_kdewallet> compilerwriter2: yes, ext3
[03:09] <ForzaPalermo> or try it with 22?
[03:09] <ForzaPalermo> and see if it works
[03:09] <purge_kdewallet> i have tried changing ports
[03:09] <purge_kdewallet> and had the same problem you had
[03:09] <Y-Town> Can anyone please tell me how to make an application on your desktop use double click to work instead of single click in KDE?
[03:10] <compilerwriter2> cool thanks purge_kdewallet
[03:10] <purge_kdewallet> and still have that same problem, but i would try changing the port to "0" or "65536" and see if you get the same error
[03:10] <purge_kdewallet> if it is the same error, its a bug in ssh
[03:10] <purge_kdewallet> if not, i don't know the answer
[03:10] <ForzaPalermo> ok ill give it a try
[03:10] <purge_kdewallet> you can always use socat for port redirection
[03:10] <purge_kdewallet> if you can't solve it
[03:10] <ForzaPalermo> ill be disc onnected a few timies
[03:10] <compilerwriter2> Y-town why would you want to do that.  I have fits whenever I am forced to use my wife's machine and have to remember to double click.
[03:10] <ForzaPalermo> cause i gota make changes to my router
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> Y-Town- I believe it's in System Settings -> Mouse
[03:11] <purge_kdewallet> ForzaPalermo, running a moded linksys?
[03:11] <Y-Town> compilerwriter2: thats the way I like it, im a lil itchy finger at the trigger and mind myself opening alot that I didnt mean too
[03:12] <ForzaPalermo> no
[03:12] <ForzaPalermo> dlink
[03:12] <compilerwriter2> Please promise me you will stay far from firearms then Y-town.
[03:12] <ForzaPalermo> purge_kdewallet, i love it
[03:12] <ForzaPalermo> wireless n
[03:12] <Y-Town> Dragnslcr: thanls I will take a look there
[03:12] <purge_kdewallet> wow, thats awesome
[03:12] <Y-Town> compilerwriter2: LOL
[03:12] <purge_kdewallet> i was thinking about moding my linksys to support ssh
[03:12] <purge_kdewallet> or installing TOR on it
[03:13] <ForzaPalermo> haha
[03:13] <ForzaPalermo> u got the g router with speed boost?
[03:13] <purge_kdewallet> no, just the standard
[03:13] <purge_kdewallet> the newer ones have < 16 MB onboard
[03:14] <ForzaPalermo> wow
[03:14] <nordisk> searching c++ coders for wow emulation project based an ascent
[03:14] <ForzaPalermo> u know i switched it to 22
[03:14] <ForzaPalermo> and now it sayts port is open and shows ssh
[03:14] <ForzaPalermo> but i didnt make any changes to my router to allow it
[03:14] <nordisk> 250$ at month offerd for this job
[03:15] <purge_kdewallet> thats odd, i would get paranoid about that and change your router password
[03:15] <purge_kdewallet> and only use ssl and ssh to access it
[03:15] <purge_kdewallet> if you can put TOR on it, you can give it a *.onion encrypted address
[03:15] <mixed> !forums
[03:15] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[03:16] <purge_kdewallet> im out to eat, i'll probably hang around in here more often
[03:16] <purge_kdewallet> ttyl ForzaPalermo
[03:16] <nordisk> any c++ crack in here?
[03:16] <Y-Town> Dragnslcr: I think that was it, but I cant change it.  I am very low on memory and believe thats now stopping me
[03:17] <ForzaPalermo>  purge_kdewallet u leaving?.
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> Y-Town- you can't get to the Keyboard & Mouse settings?
[03:18] <Y-Town> Dragnslcr: I can get to it and change it but it doesnt hold.  I go back in and see it goes back to default.
[03:19] <Y-Town> Dragnslcr: Im only running livCD now
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> I don't know if you can change it when you're running from the LiveCD
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> There might not be a configuration file to write the change to
[03:20] <Y-Town> I changed alot.. All the fonts and everything.
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> I honestly have no idea. I haven't used the LiveCD much
[03:21] <Y-Town> Dragnslcr: I have been running for 1:45 mins now... Downloaded a few few things, surfed the web and downloaded files, changed all the system fonts.
[03:25] <mrunagi> what is the theme manager thingy for window stuff
[03:25] <mrunagi> not the borders
[03:25] <mrunagi> but other stuff
[03:25] <mrunagi> the scroll bar and such
[03:25] <nordisk> searching tiny indian slave programmers
[03:26] <nordisk> 0,10$ per h
[03:26] <nordisk> lol
[03:33] <mefisto__> mrunagi: system settings>appearance>style, or window decorations, etc
[03:33] <mrunagi> i dont see a button for importing custom themes
[03:37] <mefisto__> mrunagi: do you have kcontrol installed? you might prefer doing changes there instead of kubuntu's default "system settings"
[03:43] <sam64> meh
[03:43] <sam64> just installed kde4
[03:43] <sam64> it's more cramped and uncomfortable than window$
[03:44] <sam64> and I don't see any way to fix it
[03:45] <ForzaPalermo> how do i reset my ssh localhost password?
[03:54] <Yuchan> what does DCOPReply<>: cast to 'bool' error mean? Trying to open something from the Kate terminal gives me this error suddenly
[03:57] <crazy_bus> I installed icedtea on my computer to try and use a online program.  But the check for the program says "It appears that Java is either disabled or not installed in your browser.  It appears you do not have the Java 2 Runtime Environment installed."  What can I do?
[04:00] <anon32> ever since I installed compiz, it keeps autoloading itself with KDE (it's not in Autostart)
[04:00] <SeanTater> Why are all these files empty? http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357
[04:00] <anon32> what do I do?
[04:01] <prince_jammys> anon32: alt F2 and type::  kwin --replace
[04:01] <anon32> prince_jammys: I don't want kwin, I want it to stop autoloading
[04:01] <prince_jammys> anon32: well once you replace it with whatever you want it should stop autoloading
[04:01] <BluesKaj> !java | crazy_bus
[04:01] <ubotu> crazy_bus: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:02] <crazy_bus> BluesKaj: so java5 or 6 would work when icedtea doesn't?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> crazy_bus:  not sure ...what's icedtea ?
[04:03] <anon32> prince_jammys: huh, it worked
[04:04] <anon32> what makes it keep loading itself? can I disable that behavior?
[04:04] <crazy_bus> BluesKaj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icedtea
[04:04] <prince_jammys> anon32: i think it's that kde remembers your session. so if you log out with it on, then it will be on when you log back in
[04:04] <anon32> oh.... that makes sense
[04:04] <anon32> hehe
[04:06] <prince_jammys> it's also possible to switch off the "remember session" feature, if you prefer it that way
[04:06] <BluesKaj> ahem crazy_bus , wouldn't you be better off asking such questions at a fedora-dev chat ?
[04:07] <crazy_bus> BluesKaj: icedtea is in the ubuntu universe repos
[04:08] <BluesKaj> first I've heard of it ...may be some one else can help you
[04:08] <crazy_bus> I'll ask their now
[04:13] <BluesKaj> bedtime
[04:17] <mixed> anyone know how to change the font size?
[04:19] <mixed> what is the usual DPI  settings, anyone know?
[04:50] <Arwen> mixed - it's based on your monitor. Oh wait, he died.
[04:57] <remedialjoe_> Wow.. Really weird issue.. The audio/video is speeding up on vlc
[04:58] <remedialjoe_> gxine doesn't seem to have a problem tho
[04:58] <remedialjoe_> this is for a commerical dvd, (battlestar galactica mini series)
[04:58] <remedialjoe_> :D
[05:07] <regeya> what are you playing the dvds in remedialjoe_ if it's mplayer you need to set it to drop frames, probably
[05:07] <remedialjoe_> vlc
[05:07] <remedialjoe_> with gxine it is kind of glitchy
[05:07] <remedialjoe_> vlc it speeds up slowly tho
[05:07] <remedialjoe_> vlc you think would be okay
[05:08] <remedialjoe_> the audio is crackling kinda
[05:08] <Arwen> argh, the xsnow plugin is gone from compiz :-(
[05:10] <remedialjoe_> i'm trying mplayer to see if it happens..  the video is grainy tho .. how dow i enable de interlacing
[05:10] <remedialjoe_> hrm mplayer plays it okay except for the video quality
[05:11] <remedialjoe_> wow vlc failed
[05:15] <kersinc> #kubuntu-es
[05:44] <drarem> I downloaded ubuntu 7.10 AMD 64 onto a dvd and tried booting it on a windows media xp home edition (32-bit on 64-bit AMD), I get a black screen when I select option 1 to start or install ubuntu, does anyone know why
[05:45] <remedialjoe_> if you don't know you probably shouldn't be using 64bit
[05:49] <mrunagi> lol remedialjoe_
[05:49] <ere4si> drarem: what is the graphic card?
[05:50] <drarem> if you don't know you probably shouldn't be watching tv  :P
[05:50] <drarem> it's a 8800 gts
[05:50] <drarem> nvidia
[05:50] <ere4si> well that should work...
[05:51] <drarem> something about some signal error that flashed across the screen then it went black
[05:51] <remedialjoe_> drarem:    Is it a Turion 64
[05:51] <drarem> think i tried the safe mode too awhile back, same thing
[05:51] <mrunagi> signal 11?
[05:51] <remedialjoe_> drarem: or turion 2
[05:51] <drarem> message went too fast one sec will look
[05:51] <mrunagi> did you control alt delete the bootload and unmount the sys.mbr?
[05:51]  * mrunagi is making stuff up
[05:51] <remedialjoe_> lol
[05:51] <remedialjoe_> i was wondering there
[05:52] <drarem> AMD 64 x2 dualcore
[05:52] <remedialjoe_> hahahaha
[05:52] <Apple_Cat_> lol
[05:52] <drarem> m7640n HP media center
[05:52] <remedialjoe_> drarem:  hrmm.. i have an turion 1 and for some reason the 64 bit disc didn't work either .. not that this helps..  but i wonder if the alternate install disc would work.. why do you want 64 bit
[05:52] <remedialjoe_> any particular reason?
[05:52] <remedialjoe_> =]
[05:53] <mrunagi> yea why DO you want 64bit
[05:53] <mrunagi> these are always good
[05:53]  * mrunagi sits
[05:53] <drarem> to see if it's any faster or better, although I don't see how i would notice the difference cept in fps gaming
[05:53] <mrunagi> hey thats simple
[05:53] <mrunagi> it wont be
[05:53] <mrunagi> dl 32 bit
[05:53] <drarem> course i got some graphic apps that might benefit?
[05:53] <mrunagi> like?
[05:54] <drarem> poser 6 under wine
[05:54] <remedialjoe_> ooooh
[05:54] <remedialjoe_> ;]
[05:54] <mrunagi> no
[05:54] <mrunagi> omg
[05:54] <mrunagi> no
[05:54] <remedialjoe_> hahahah
[05:54] <mrunagi> did he really
[05:54] <remedialjoe_> lolol
[05:54] <mrunagi> did he really say that?
[05:54]  * mrunagi kicks himself in the shin
[05:54] <drarem> i dont see no opensourced vershions
[05:54] <mrunagi> you see the drarem
[05:54] <mrunagi> see what you did?
[05:54] <remedialjoe_> drarem: How much ram do you have?
[05:54] <mrunagi> you made me hurt myself
[05:54] <drarem> 2 Gb
[05:54] <mrunagi> OMG!
[05:54] <mrunagi> you have to have 4
[05:54] <remedialjoe_> hehehehehe
[05:54] <mrunagi> no wonder!
[05:54] <mrunagi> thats the problem
[05:54] <mrunagi> problem solved
[05:54] <remedialjoe_> you need over 4gb to make use of 64bit
[05:55] <remedialjoe_> =]
[05:55] <drarem> makes sense
[05:55] <mrunagi> ok
[05:55] <mrunagi> ill make sense
[05:55] <drarem> in a strange way
[05:55] <mrunagi> :D
[05:55] <mrunagi> drarem:
[05:55] <mrunagi> do me a favor my man
[05:55] <remedialjoe_> 32 bit = 4gb work of memory allocation ?
[05:55] <remedialjoe_> -work
[05:55] <mrunagi> NEVER run ANY 3d production app with wine
[05:55] <remedialjoe_> oh yah
[05:55] <remedialjoe_> i forgot about that too
[05:55] <remedialjoe_> hahahaha
[05:55] <mrunagi> please
[05:55] <mrunagi> i beg you
[05:56] <Arwen> actually, if you're on Hardy, it's "never run any app at all with wine"
[05:56] <Arwen> because "oh wait, SEGFAULT!"
[05:56] <mrunagi> lol
[05:56]  * mrunagi facepalms
[05:56] <mrunagi> segfauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuult
[05:56] <drarem> does that include 3d games like HL2 ?
[05:56] <remedialjoe_> oh i was thinking 3d appz inside of wine
[05:56] <remedialjoe_> er
[05:56] <remedialjoe_> vmware
[05:56] <mrunagi> drarem: i didnt say games
[05:56] <remedialjoe_> yah mrunagi what about games
[05:56] <drarem> nah..
[05:57] <remedialjoe_> oh
[05:57] <remedialjoe_> appz
[05:57] <mrunagi> i said 3d production apps............
[05:57] <remedialjoe_> *listens
[05:57] <mrunagi> such as poser, 3dsm, maya, bryce,
[05:57] <mrunagi> etc
[05:57] <drarem> ok what about povray, would those benefit from 64bit rendering with 4Gb vs 32bit/2Gb ?
[05:57] <mrunagi> what is povray
[05:57] <mrunagi> !info povray
[05:57] <ubotu> povray (source: povray): Persistence of vision raytracer (3D renderer). In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1:3.6.1-6 (gutsy), package size 707 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[05:58] <remedialjoe_> you can have up to 4gb with 32bit .. just no more
[05:58] <mrunagi> hey look
[05:58] <mrunagi> drarem: did you go to full sail?
[05:58] <solid_liq> will quake 4 run on linux?
[05:58] <mrunagi> solid_liq: i think so
[05:58] <drarem> full sail lunacy?
[05:58] <remedialjoe_> yes
[05:58] <remedialjoe_> doesn't q4 have a linux build?
[05:58] <solid_liq> mrunagi, you've never tried it tho?
[05:58] <remedialjoe_> i was playing it before i swear
[05:58] <solid_liq> remedialjoe_, did it play okay?
[05:58] <remedialjoe_> ID software releases games for linux
[05:59] <remedialjoe_> yah for sure
[05:59] <solid_liq> it wasn't jerky or anything?
[05:59] <remedialjoe_> i was even playing enemy territory
[05:59] <remedialjoe_> no not at all
[05:59] <remedialjoe_> 8600gt
[05:59] <solid_liq> remedialjoe_, oh, I have a 7100 gt
[05:59] <solid_liq> *7100gs
[05:59] <remedialjoe_> i'm sure it will run just fine
[05:59] <solid_liq> sweet awesome, thanks!
[05:59] <remedialjoe_> google quake4 linux
[06:00] <remedialjoe_> there is an official linux installer
[06:00] <remedialjoe_> *pats ID software on the back
[06:00] <remedialjoe_> You da man Carmack
[06:01] <solid_liq> any idea about doom 3?
[06:01] <remedialjoe_> although solid_liq .. why aren'tyou playing Nexuiz ?
[06:01] <remedialjoe_> woah quake 2 and quake 3 are in the repos it looks like
[06:02] <solid_liq> remedialjoe_, nexuiz?
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> solid_liq:  sudo apt-get install nexuiz   <-- best fps :D
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> man
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> its incredible
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> try it now
[06:02] <solid_liq> good graphics?
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> well i can't top it out on my card
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> =]
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> like
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> my card just isn't good enough
[06:02] <solid_liq> do they look convincing tho?
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> oh
[06:02] <remedialjoe_> no its more like quake 1
[06:02] <drarem> so you need 4Gb of ram to run ubuntu on a 64-bit amd?
[06:03] <remedialjoe_> but heavily modified physics/
[06:03] <remedialjoe_> new weapons
[06:03] <solid_liq> drarem, lol no
[06:03] <solid_liq> cool
[06:03] <remedialjoe_> solid_liq:   ID software released the engine for quake for free
[06:03] <remedialjoe_> solid_liq:  and people built this game off it
[06:03] <solid_liq> oh okay, cool
[06:03] <remedialjoe_> solid_liq: there is no gameplay like it that i have found
[06:03] <solid_liq> sweet :)
[06:03] <drarem> ok then still dont know why 7.10amd gives me black screen
[06:04] <drarem> puter is media center, and vista-media ready, maybe that is why
[06:04] <kevin_> !ghost
[06:04] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[06:04] <remedialjoe_> drarem:  i had the same issue on my turion
[06:04] <remedialjoe_> er
[06:05] <remedialjoe_> drarem: Is it a Compaq?
[06:05] <remedialjoe_> oh
[06:05] <remedialjoe_> HP
[06:05] <remedialjoe_> you said
[06:05] <drarem> HP m7640n
[06:05] <remedialjoe_> same company basically.. hrmm
[06:06] <brian__> Is there anyway to get Gwenview to change pictures faster? When I press to go to the next picture, it loads very slowly.
[06:06] <drarem> tomorrow will try 32-bit to make sure it's not this puter
[06:06] <Arwen> brian__, turn off resizing filters
[06:07] <brian__> Arwen, how do I go about doing that?
[06:07] <ol_dude67> how do you change the resolution on kubuntu, the window is bigger then my monitor.
[06:08] <Arwen> brian__, under settings, it's presented as "image smoothing"
[06:08] <regeya> meh.  wife tells me that she was told that to get onto the campus wireless network 'you have to download something.'  upon further inspection the only thing they mention is that you need the cisco vpn client(!)
[06:08] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67:  do you have a video card driver installed?
[06:09] <regeya> wife's laptop is running kubuntu btw.
[06:09] <ol_dude67> yes its an intel 9455gz
[06:09] <ol_dude67> oops 945
[06:09] <brian__> Arwen, that does nothing. It had no effect at all
[06:09] <Arwen> eh? dunno then
[06:09] <regeya> why in the world would a vpn client be a requirement...meh, too late to think about it.
[06:09] <brian__> Regardless of what setting I have it on, it still renders the image slowly.
[06:09] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67:  hrmm i'm not sure if there is a configuration applet like nvidia.. hold on a sec..  did you try adjusting the resolution yet?
[06:10] <ol_dude67> thats what im trying to find is the resolution but cant seem to find it. anywhere.
[06:10] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67:  start/system settings/Monitor and DIsplay
[06:10] <remedialjoe_> kmenu
[06:10] <remedialjoe_> sorry
[06:10] <remedialjoe_> *ducks
[06:11] <ol_dude67> i was going to say its not there.
[06:11] <remedialjoe_> =]
[06:12] <aib> KNetworkManager closes as soon as I open it. I never even see the interface. I tried opening it from the command line and from the debugger, but there seems to be no way that I can interact with it
[06:12] <ol_dude67> i just rebooted and it was like what the heck happened then i remembered i switched to kdm instead of gdm and it threw it off. now i dont know where it was to fix it the last time.
[06:13] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67:  did you find it??
[06:13] <ol_dude67> nope i have now monitor or display settings.
[06:14] <remedialjoe_> Should be under "computer administration"
[06:14] <remedialjoe_> under system settings
[06:14] <ol_dude67> remedialjoe_, nope its not there.
[06:14] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67:  that is very weird
[06:15] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67:  try alt-f2 and launching "kcontrol
[06:15] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67:  then on the left hand side click on Peripherals .. Then Monitor and Display *should be there
[06:17] <ol_dude67> remedialjoe_, it wasnt installed i am installing it now.
[06:17] <ol_dude67> thanks tho
[06:17] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67:  how did you go about installing kde ?
[06:17] <ol_dude67> apt-get
[06:17] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67: did you install the "kubuntu-desktop" package ?
[06:17] <ol_dude67> ya
[06:17] <remedialjoe_> very wacky
[06:18] <ol_dude67> ya well i probably didnt do it right as im really use to slack.
[06:18] <purge_kdewallet> anyone know how to use dig?
[06:19] <remedialjoe_> well "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"   *should grab everything  ou need to get goin .. hopefully just installing kcontrol works tho
[06:20] <ol_dude67> ill let ya know here in a sec.
[06:20] <val0> I am trying to compile a program and during the configure phase it checks to see if I have glib 2.0 or greater installed. It breaks telling me that I don't while the package manager tells me that I do... i am stuck
[06:21] <remedialjoe_> val0: did you grab build-essentials ?
[06:21] <val0> remedialjoe, sure did
[06:22] <remedialjoe_> thats all i got on that subject sorry ;P
[06:22] <val0> lol, thanks
[06:22] <purge_kdewallet> val0, what program are you trying to compile?
[06:22] <val0> purge_kdewallet: irssi
[06:23] <purge_kdewallet> you know there is an ubuntu package for that?
[06:23] <purge_kdewallet> sudo apt-get install irssi
[06:23] <val0> purge_kdewallet: yeh i do, just wanted to try and compile my own... learning process
[06:24] <purge_kdewallet> what was the exact error?
[06:24] <purge_kdewallet> did you download glib and try to compile that first, then irssi?
[06:24] <purge_kdewallet> for a beginner program, i would recommend trying to compile TOR
[06:24] <purge_kdewallet> https://torproject.org
[06:24] <ol_dude67> remedialjoe_, after installing monitor and display i got the control for it.so it worked.
[06:24] <purge_kdewallet> its relatively easy on linux users using ubuntu
[06:25] <ol_dude67> remedialjoe_, thanks for the help, i need to know what to look for so that way if i didnt have it i could install it. so thanks alot.
[06:25] <val0> i believe that Glib was already preinstalled on my system, the error i get is: "Checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0. result: no error: GLIB is required to build irssi"
[06:26] <remedialjoe_> ol_dude67:  np ..    i hope it works for you.. its kind of concerning me that it wasn't there from the start tho.. try installing the kubuntu-desktop package again if you can.. eithercase, good luck ! =]
[06:26] <purge_kdewallet> sometimes when you compile programs, having the program already installed through apt-get is not enough, you have to compile it manually
[06:26] <purge_kdewallet> especially for glib
[06:26] <purge_kdewallet> sometimes programs, such as irssi, might be looking for glib components in the wrong spot on your computer
[06:26] <ol_dude67> oh i already changed the resolution and its back to its right size now.
[06:26] <val0> ok maybe i am totally confused, but libglib2.0 is GLIB right?
[06:27] <remedialjoe_> val0:  try libglib2.0
[06:27] <remedialjoe_> er
[06:27] <remedialjoe_> val0:  try libglib2.0-dev
[06:27] <purge_kdewallet> yeah
[06:27] <remedialjoe_> if that doesn't work i will shutup
[06:27] <purge_kdewallet> the dev is a good start too
[06:27] <val0> ok will do
[06:27] <purge_kdewallet> remedialjoe, that is a good idea
[06:27] <remedialjoe_> ty :D
[06:27] <purge_kdewallet> that fixes a lot of the problem
[06:27] <purge_kdewallet> *problems
[06:27] <remedialjoe_> i try.. oh how i try
[06:28] <purge_kdewallet> you wouldn't happen to know how to use dig?
[06:28] <remedialjoe_> never heard of it
[06:28] <purge_kdewallet> it is supposed to help diagnose dns problems
[06:28] <val0> NICE! it worked. well sort of... i get a different error now which in my books mean progress!
[06:28] <remedialjoe_> lol
[06:28] <remedialjoe_> =]
[06:29] <purge_kdewallet> i can't lookup yahoo.com properly lol, its a dns problem
[06:29] <remedialjoe_> purge_kdewallet:  what are the issues you are having with it
[06:29] <remedialjoe_> hrm
[06:29] <purge_kdewallet> my dns through vpn is failing on certain websites
[06:29] <Arwen> w00t, using a fullscreen transparent konsole + compiz snow = fun
[06:29] <purge_kdewallet> the websites that aren't going through their ip-v6
[06:29] <remedialjoe_> oh
[06:30] <remedialjoe_> wow you are implementing ipv6 already.. you are bashful
[06:30] <purge_kdewallet> and i have to find the problem so i can get the tech people to fix it
[06:30] <purge_kdewallet> no, my school is
[06:30] <purge_kdewallet> its a *.edu
[06:30] <purge_kdewallet> *.edu = ipv6
[06:30] <remedialjoe_> word
[06:30] <remedialjoe_> hmm
[06:31] <remedialjoe_> it works on http://www.webmaster-toolkit.com/dig.shtml
[06:31] <remedialjoe_> ;]
[06:31] <remedialjoe_> heheh hrmm
[06:31] <purge_kdewallet> i'll have to take a look at that
[06:32] <purge_kdewallet> the manual is aweful
[06:32] <patrick__> y'a des francais(québécois) ici ..
[06:32] <remedialjoe_> looks like a few sites have web interfaces for it already
[06:32] <purge_kdewallet> hahaha
[06:32] <purge_kdewallet> i can't get to it
[06:32] <remedialjoe_> the only thing i can think of
[06:32] <purge_kdewallet> its not on ipv6
[06:32] <purge_kdewallet> do you have an ip for that?
[06:32] <remedialjoe_> is your router set to use your schools dns servers?
[06:32] <purge_kdewallet> yeah
[06:32] <purge_kdewallet> i can't change the dns server to opendns either
[06:32] <val0> thanks for all the help. it works now i can sleep in peace!
[06:33] <remedialjoe_> val0: np . glad to help..   Cheers =]
[06:33] <purge_kdewallet> do you have the ip for that website
[06:33] <purge_kdewallet> ping <website here> will give you an ip
[06:33] <val0> :) g'night all!
[06:33] <remedialjoe_> 64.130.52.204
[06:33] <purge_kdewallet> sweet
[06:33] <purge_kdewallet> that worked
[06:34] <remedialjoe_> is anyone else having issues with the dns resolving?
[06:34] <remedialjoe_> very weird you can't use opendns
[06:34] <purge_kdewallet> it has to do with the vpn certificate specifying the dns servers
[06:35] <purge_kdewallet> the vpn writes over the resolv.conf and doesn't allow you to change it and /etc/init.d/networking restart without breaking the vpn connection
[06:35] <purge_kdewallet> im bookmarking that page!
[06:35] <remedialjoe_> hehehe .. ij ust googled "dig  online utility"
[06:36] <remedialjoe_> but glad it helps
[06:36] <remedialjoe_> uhm
[06:36] <remedialjoe_> hrmm
[06:36] <remedialjoe_> i'm pretyy interested now in the vpn issue
[06:36] <remedialjoe_> hmmm
[06:37] <remedialjoe_> did you have to setup a vpn connection on your router.. and/or the schools firewall?
[06:37] <remedialjoe_> or did they just open the port for you
[06:37] <purge_kdewallet> its setup for the whole school
[06:37] <purge_kdewallet> this is the only computer having the dns issue
[06:37] <purge_kdewallet> the resolv.conf and everything looks okay
[06:38] <purge_kdewallet> but the dig results are not good
[06:38] <purge_kdewallet> ; <<>> DiG 9.4.1-P1 <<>> clusty.com
[06:38] <purge_kdewallet> ;; global options:  printcmd
[06:38] <purge_kdewallet> ;; Got answer:
[06:38] <purge_kdewallet> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 57798
[06:38] <purge_kdewallet> ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
[06:38] <purge_kdewallet> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
[06:39] <remedialjoe_> you have any other buntu/*nix machines running fine with it? what did you change on that system ;]
[06:39] <purge_kdewallet> yes, i have a phone running it fine
[06:39] <purge_kdewallet> i reformatted the system, so everything changed
[06:40] <remedialjoe_> its a clean install and its not going eh
[06:40] <remedialjoe_> hrm
[06:40] <purge_kdewallet> i think its a conspiracy :)
[06:40] <remedialjoe_> lol
[06:41] <remedialjoe_> can you ping out to any domains?
[06:41] <purge_kdewallet> yes, google and wikipedia
[06:41] <purge_kdewallet> and test.com
[06:41] <purge_kdewallet> but not clusty.com, whatismyip.com, and ubuntu.com
[06:41] <purge_kdewallet> and i can't sudo apt-get update because of that
[06:43] <purge_kdewallet> that a bad problem with ubuntu
[06:43] <purge_kdewallet> their repositories are all DNS!!!! None of them are IPs for people without DNS!!!
[06:44] <remedialjoe_> hehhe
[06:45] <Hydrogen> what..?
[06:45] <remedialjoe_> have you tried this for firefox?
[06:45] <remedialjoe_> Type about:config in firefox URL field
[06:45] <remedialjoe_> filter ipv6
[06:45] <remedialjoe_> set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true
[06:46] <remedialjoe_> that might solve websurfing issues but not other appz
[06:46] <purge_kdewallet> i have tried all browsers
[06:46] <purge_kdewallet> well, two: konqueror and firefox
[06:46] <remedialjoe_> with disabling ipv6 dns?
[06:46] <remedialjoe_> hrmmmm
[06:47] <Hydrogen> ;; SERVER: 149.84.147.111#53(149.84.147.111) <-- us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:47] <purge_kdewallet> its not only web surfing that is affected
[06:47] <purge_kdewallet> i can't even ping
[06:47] <remedialjoe_> i understand
[06:47] <remedialjoe_> but i am reading that this might work for web surfing but not other appz
[06:47] <remedialjoe_> might be a step closer
[06:47] <remedialjoe_> *keeps reading
[06:47] <purge_kdewallet> i am using ssh to bypass lots of it
[06:47] <remedialjoe_> The solution is to edit /etc/dhc3/dhclient.conf and unremark the line "prepend...." and replace the default dns with your ISP's dns.
[06:47] <purge_kdewallet> i can just do an ssh me@server -X to bring up the web browser remotely
[06:47] <remedialjoe_> ^^
[06:48] <purge_kdewallet> thats a good idea
[06:48] <remedialjoe_> found at : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77648.html
[06:48] <purge_kdewallet> but its getting the dhcp from the server over dhcp
[06:48] <purge_kdewallet> over vpn i mean
[06:49] <purge_kdewallet> resolv.conf is for dns, the dhclient should be for dhcp, which can redirect dns requests to the router
[06:49] <purge_kdewallet> but in my case the router is remove because of the vpn
[06:49] <purge_kdewallet> if i were the vpn programmer, i probably would lock that file down as well as the resolv.conf
[06:50] <remedialjoe_> "It's interresting that ubuntu is not able to configure it's IP DNS from the router. "
[06:50] <remedialjoe_> try it
[06:50] <remedialjoe_> see if it sticks
[06:51] <remedialjoe_> Ubuntu has a newer Internet protocol called IPv6 turned on by default. However, some hardware — such as NICs and modems — shows broken behavior when exposed to IPv6 related DNS requests. This leaves you wondering why DNS resolution seems slower or doesn't work at all.
[06:51] <remedialjoe_> maybe a different NIC ?
[06:51] <remedialjoe_> ;/
[06:52] <purge_kdewallet> i am getting some problems with my network card too
[06:52] <purge_kdewallet> its dropping an average of 25% of packets
[06:52] <purge_kdewallet> i think that is a separate problem though
[06:52] <remedialjoe_> konversation crashed
[06:52] <remedialjoe_> but i got the last msg i think
[06:52] <remedialjoe_> it could be the culprit
[06:53] <remedialjoe_> 25% packet loss
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> PING google.com (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> 64 bytes from 64.233.187.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=29.8 ms
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> 64 bytes from 64.233.187.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=241 time=80.6 ms
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> --- google.com ping statistics ---
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> 4 packets transmitted, 2 received, 50% packet loss, time 7092ms
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.859/55.235/80.611/25.376 ms
[06:53] <remedialjoe_> i'd check the cable first.. but i mean
[06:53] <remedialjoe_> OUCH
[06:53] <remedialjoe_> unacceptable
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> i think i need to call my isp
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> its with or without the vpn
[06:53] <remedialjoe_> i'd try a different cable
[06:53] <remedialjoe_> or nic first
[06:53] <remedialjoe_> thats all they will tell u
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> its wifi
[06:53] <purge_kdewallet> but its a strong signal
[06:54] <remedialjoe_> what kind is it
[06:54] <purge_kdewallet> 802.11g
[06:54] <remedialjoe_> sorry model/brand
[06:54] <remedialjoe_> usb/pci ?
[06:54] <purge_kdewallet> intel 2200/bg
[06:54] <purge_kdewallet> internal
[06:54] <remedialjoe_> ping your router
[06:54] <remedialjoe_> any packet loss?
[06:54] <purge_kdewallet> can't, im on the vpn now
[06:54] <purge_kdewallet> well, maybe
[06:54] <purge_kdewallet> let me try
[06:55] <purge_kdewallet> no loss
[06:55] <remedialjoe_> so its not wifi/router
[06:55] <remedialjoe_> for the pl issue
[06:55] <remedialjoe_> hrm
[06:55] <purge_kdewallet> there is no packet loss when i do a ping charter.net
[06:55] <remedialjoe_> is there anyway you can plug in the NIC
[06:55] <remedialjoe_> and see if ipv6 works through that
[06:55] <purge_kdewallet> (my isp)
[06:56] <purge_kdewallet> all other sites have packet loss
[06:56] <remedialjoe_> sounds like their backbone is having issues?
[06:56] <purge_kdewallet> sounds like charter is doing deep packet inspections
[06:56] <remedialjoe_> yeah
[06:56] <remedialjoe_> wow
[06:56] <purge_kdewallet> it is really slowing down regular connections, and encrypted connections even more
[06:56] <purge_kdewallet> it could be a brute-force attack as well
[06:56] <Daisuke_Ido> welcome to the modern world without net neutrality.
[06:57] <remedialjoe_> :/
[06:57] <purge_kdewallet> lol
[06:57] <purge_kdewallet> maybe i should flood ping and see what the loss rates are
[06:58] <Y-Town> peacefull
[06:58] <purge_kdewallet> i'll ping myself from the vpn connection
[06:58] <purge_kdewallet> thats peacefully
[06:58] <Y-Town> :o)
[06:59] <purge_kdewallet> wow, not much packet loss
[06:59] <purge_kdewallet> 0% packet loss on a flood ping
[06:59] <purge_kdewallet> but 25 - 50% loss on a regular ping
[06:59] <purge_kdewallet> whats wrong with that picture?
[06:59] <purge_kdewallet> definitely its the isp doing packet inspection
[06:59] <remedialjoe_> big brother is watching you
[06:59] <purge_kdewallet> they can't inspect flood pings
[07:00] <purge_kdewallet> because its not a protocol, but rather broken protocol strings
[07:00] <remedialjoe_> i don't see how that would effect dns resolves tho
[07:00] <purge_kdewallet> if the internet is multiplexed, this would be a possible outcome
[07:00] <purge_kdewallet> UDP is a targeted protocol for packet inspection
[07:01] <purge_kdewallet> since it is used by many p2p
[07:01] <purge_kdewallet> aka, torrents
[07:01] <remedialjoe_> hrm
[07:01] <purge_kdewallet> nothing out of the ordinary under the peerguardian logs
[07:01] <purge_kdewallet> do you all use peerguardian for linux?
[07:02] <remedialjoe_> well..
[07:02] <remedialjoe_> i tried but then things pointed me to moblock
[07:02] <remedialjoe_> and i felt uneasy
[07:02] <Y-Town> night
[07:02] <remedialjoe_> so i haven't been dling
[07:03] <purge_kdewallet> you should try the one one sf.net
[07:03] <purge_kdewallet> called iplist
[07:03] <purge_kdewallet> very stable, and has a GUI
[07:03] <remedialjoe_>   wow there are hardy packages already
[07:03] <remedialjoe_> coolness thx
[07:04] <purge_kdewallet> how come apt-get distupgrade doesn't upgrade me to hardy?
[07:05] <remedialjoe_> sometimes i don't know why ubuntu does the things it does
[07:05] <remedialjoe_> =]
[07:06] <mrunagi> y do ppl want hardy so bad
[07:07] <purge_kdewallet> the kde4
[07:07] <remedialjoe_> also because the install bugs haven't been fixed in gutsy?
[07:07] <remedialjoe_> :/
[07:07] <Arwen> mrunagi, Hardy? it has more xrandr. But honestly, I couldn't tell it apart from Gutsy.
[07:08] <Arwen> and argh, compiz makes the eyes burn after a while..
[07:09] <remedialjoe_> yah i got woozy after using it for too long
[07:09] <raoman> i have kubuntu 6.10 cd. when i tried to boot for installation, i get some error message saying that something is wrong with my HDD. ( running on Pentium 3 with winXp on 40GBmaxtor and ubuntu 7.10 on 10GB seagate) can anyone help me?
[07:09] <purge_kdewallet> i can try
[07:10] <purge_kdewallet> am sure others here will too
[07:10] <remedialjoe_> purge_kdewallet: are you on dsl?
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> raoman: you might want to go to 7.10
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> 4.10 will no longer be supported come april
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> 6.10
[07:11] <purge_kdewallet> i am on cable
[07:11] <purge_kdewallet> charter is a cable provider
[07:11] <purge_kdewallet> they are a small little comcast
[07:11] <purge_kdewallet> raoman, what is the error?
[07:12] <raoman> Daisuke_Ido: i tried it already, had problems mounting USB drives, and my adept manager got screwed
[07:13] <remedialjoe_> purge_kdewallet: which vpn client are you using
[07:13] <purge_kdewallet> kvpnc
[07:13] <purge_kdewallet> very buggy
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> so you're going WAY back to a version that is barely supported in the hope that things will be better?
[07:13] <purge_kdewallet> the only one that exists though
[07:13] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: hdd:ide_intr:huh?expected NULL handler on exit followed by Buffer I/O error on device HDD, logical block 177902
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> i assure you, this is an incredibly bad idea
[07:13] <purge_kdewallet> raoman, try running the live cd
[07:13] <remedialjoe_> purge_kdewallet:  look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-408866.html
[07:14] <purge_kdewallet> and there are commands to run scans on the hard disk from the live cd
[07:14] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: i tried booting several time, getting same error msg
[07:14] <purge_kdewallet> booting from hd or live disk?
[07:14] <remedialjoe_> raoman: that sounds like the optical drive is on the same ide cable as the hd
[07:15] <remedialjoe_> but try the live cd like purg said
[07:15] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: booting from live CD live cd
[07:15] <remedialjoe_> raoman:  Desktop or laptop
[07:15] <remedialjoe_> i'm betting desktop
[07:15] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: desktop, but i had no problems installing Kubuntu 7.10
[07:15] <remedialjoe_> oh hrm
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> ...
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> if you had no problems installing it, why didn't you just fix the problems it had with USB (can be done) instead of go back to a flaky release?
[07:16] <purge_kdewallet> the error reads: hard disk /dev/hdd has an interrupt on the IDP port, expected 0 MSB, thus a buffer overflow (V flag) on /dev/hdd, at logic memory location 177902
[07:17] <purge_kdewallet> do you have another computer to burn a new live disk, the latest version uses a different kernel, if you don't I would recommend using an older version of a live disk you have
[07:17] <remedialjoe_> purge_kdewallet: You can add an alias section specifically for the ___+  interface, and I think you'll want to add a prepend directive to specify the necessary dns entries.
[07:17] <remedialjoe_> " "
[07:17] <purge_kdewallet> sometimes the older kernels bypass problems like this and allow them to run, any live disks around with kernel 2.4?
[07:17] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: i tried fixing usb problem on 7.10, but didnt workout. probably coz i didnt do it right. im still a rookie..
[07:18] <remedialjoe_> also purge_kdewallet ..
[07:18] <remedialjoe_> Have you installed network-manager? It watches and reconfigures your connections.
[07:18] <remedialjoe_> Nope, no network manager. Plain and simple default config.
[07:18] <purge_kdewallet> remedialjoe, my interface is virtual, tap when vpnc, and then eth1 otherwise
[07:18] <remedialjoe_> maybe un installing network-manager ?
[07:19] <remedialjoe_> yes you can still add the section for the virtual interface
[07:19] <remedialjoe_> they have it listed as cisco0
[07:19] <purge_kdewallet> at this rate i may have to reinstall the OS lol with my problem
[07:19] <purge_kdewallet> i really think its a problem either with the Ubuntu and the VPN server or a bug in KVPNC
[07:19] <remedialjoe_> purge read this please
[07:19] <remedialjoe_> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-408866.html
[07:20] <purge_kdewallet> u need to translate that into an ip
[07:20] <purge_kdewallet> or give me a min lol
[07:20] <remedialjoe_> oh right my bad
[07:20] <remedialjoe_> http://91.189.94.186/archive/index.php/t-408866.html
[07:20] <raoman> purge_kdewallet: i have ubuntu 7.10 running, can i install KDE interface on it?
[07:21] <remedialjoe_> raoman: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> actually
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <remedialjoe_> ouch
[07:21] <purge_kdewallet> i would do a disk check before installing anything new though remdialjoe
[07:21] <purge_kdewallet> if he is on 7.10 now stably, i would run those disk check utils
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> aptitude handles dependencies better, so that if you decide to not go with kde, it can all be removed in one fell swoop
[07:21] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: okay, does it still come with USB drive mounting problem?
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the ONLY reason i would recommend the change
[07:22] <remedialjoe_> Daisuke_Ido: thx
[07:22] <purge_kdewallet> not that i am aware, i even got gmail to mount on it fine
[07:22] <remedialjoe_> good call
[07:22] <purge_kdewallet> in the future, if you can't unmount, try the umount /dev/sda1 command, where sda1 is the usb flash drive
[07:23] <remedialjoe_> also make sure you have the USB folder you were working on closed before trying to unmount the disc ;]
[07:23] <remedialjoe_> or drive*
[07:23] <purge_kdewallet> also, i am guessing your USB drive is new
[07:23] <remedialjoe_> i'm so tired.. can't sleep.. should just listen
[07:23] <purge_kdewallet> there is a new USB driver error in some of the newer USB flash drives?  i have a problem with opensuse unmounting my newer flash drives
[07:24] <purge_kdewallet> remedialjoe, this website covers a problem i have had in the past with anonet
[07:25] <remedialjoe_> it _sounds_ like the same sort of issue
[07:26] <purge_kdewallet> i ran into that problem with anonet, but this is a different problem
[07:26] <purge_kdewallet> anonet uses the vpn software to connect to its network
[07:26] <purge_kdewallet> this is the same problem i had with that, but it was resolved a while back
[07:26] <remedialjoe_> even the last post? feb 1st 2008
[07:26] <remedialjoe_> archon256
[07:27] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, the article wasn't dealing with anonet, but its a common problem that is hard to find on the web
[07:28] <purge_kdewallet> if i want dns, i can just setup a local dns server
[07:28] <purge_kdewallet> using TOR
[07:28] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: y wouldnt my external HDD (NTFS) mount even after i installed ntfs-3g? shudnt it fix d problem?
[07:28] <purge_kdewallet> 7.10 has the proper software installed natively
[07:28] <purge_kdewallet> you shouldn't have to install any additional software, the ntfs-3g should have come with 7.10
[07:29] <purge_kdewallet> did you try to mount it manually?
[07:29] <purge_kdewallet> mkdir /media/usbdisk
[07:29] <purge_kdewallet> sudo mount /dev/hdd /media/usbdisk
[07:29] <purge_kdewallet> you might need a sudo on that mkdir as well
[07:30] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: i installed it because i had problems mounting my USB drives. i browsed through the forum pages b4 installing.
[07:30] <purge_kdewallet> assuming that hdd is the usb disk
[07:30] <ForgeAus> are AMD/ATI now opensource drivers?
[07:30] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: nope, i didnt
[07:30] <purge_kdewallet> Forge: ATI has for a while, about 2 years
[07:30] <ForgeAus> uh? I'm confused
[07:31] <purge_kdewallet> try that
[07:31] <purge_kdewallet> see if that works raoman
[07:31] <purge_kdewallet> make sure you find the right /dev/
[07:31] <ForgeAus> back when I got edgy radeon was tough to get working because the drivers were proprietary and the opensource versions were difficult...
[07:31] <purge_kdewallet> it can be /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, /dev/usbdisk, or /dev/hdd
[07:31] <purge_kdewallet> usually one of those
[07:31] <ForgeAus> ie fire xgl etc..
[07:32] <ForgeAus> I'm certain that was less than 2 years ago
[07:32] <purge_kdewallet> oh, i didn't read above, "opensource"
[07:32] <purge_kdewallet> lol
[07:32] <purge_kdewallet> thats news to me
[07:32] <ForgeAus> same here
[07:32] <purge_kdewallet> they have had the proprietary out a while
[07:32] <raoman> purge _kdewallet: okay, i'll try installing KDE now... thx bro
[07:32] <purge_kdewallet> np
[07:32] <remedialjoe_> purge_kdewallet:  sorry if i am repeating myself..  so the issue isn't that your dns is changing back to the wrong settings?
[07:32] <ForgeAus> but aren't the opensource drivers for radeon for Xorg better than the propritary versions?
[07:32] <purge_kdewallet> its dns servers are working on other computers
[07:33] <purge_kdewallet> but not properly here
[07:33] <ForgeAus> (still a pain tho)
[07:33] <purge_kdewallet> the network admin says the dns servers are twice as fast as any others
[07:33] <purge_kdewallet> so it would be *nice* if it worked
[07:33] <purge_kdewallet> i was hoping dig could help
[07:33] <remedialjoe_> but you said opendns wouldn't even work
[07:33] <purge_kdewallet> the actual command might help me debug
[07:33] <purge_kdewallet> but the flags are hard to set
[07:33] <remedialjoe_> purge 208.67.219.99start/ubuntu.php
[07:33] <remedialjoe_> its the same solution
[07:33] <remedialjoe_> hrm
[07:33] <purge_kdewallet> yeah, i tried editing the resolv.conf
[07:34] <purge_kdewallet> but to read the resolv.conf with the opendns settings
[07:34] <purge_kdewallet> i would have to /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:34] <purge_kdewallet> which would break the vpn connection
[07:34] <purge_kdewallet> and thus i was in an endless loop
[07:35] <purge_kdewallet> (the vpn reset the resolv.conf)
[07:35] <purge_kdewallet> if the dhcp settings are changed, they will reflect the router at the vpn server side
[07:35] <remedialjoe_> doesn't it just reset the settings?
[07:35] <purge_kdewallet> not the client side router here
[07:35] <remedialjoe_> it won't actually completely re create the resolv.conf will it
[07:35] <purge_kdewallet> no, you have to reset networking for it to read
[07:35] <purge_kdewallet> it will completely recreate it
[07:36] <purge_kdewallet> and move the other file to another file name
[07:36] <purge_kdewallet> whoever wrote the kvpnc was in a rush i think
[07:36] <purge_kdewallet> hey, i have to get some sleep
[07:36] <purge_kdewallet> i'll try staying in here and jump in some time tomorrow
[07:36] <remedialjoe_> hehehe.. take it easy yo.. and GL figuring it out.. if you do and see me around let me know what was up
[07:37] <remedialjoe_> i'm on now and then
[07:37] <purge_kdewallet> good room to give back to the ubuntu community and get help learning new things at the same time
[07:37] <remedialjoe_> true true
[07:42] <dariocoll> hello
[07:42] <dariocoll> i recently nstalled compiz and i need help please
[07:45] <Lynoure> dariocoll: If you are a bit more specific, people are more likely to help (though I don't do compiz)
[07:47] <remedialjoe_> man i can't get de interlacing to work at all for mplayer .. using "vf = yadif"  in the .mplayer/config and also /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[07:47] <remedialjoe_> i want to watch this BSG dvd i just got
[07:47] <remedialjoe_> =[
[07:49] <remedialjoe_> back for more
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> crackhead100, in settings for amsn there should be a font section
[09:42] <anipy> hi. AFAIR, kubuntu 8.04 won't be with long-term support LTS. is this information correct / up-to-date?
[09:45] <tzd> Can someone please help me with the "BROKEN TRANSLATION" message i get in d3lphin please?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> tzd, when does it occur?
[09:46] <tzd> every time i open d3lpihn
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> tzd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=653962
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> tzd, have you seen that before?
[09:47] <tzd> ActionParsnip: thanks
[09:48] <tzd> ActionParsnip: I'll have a look... Read through a forum yesterday where they discussed some ".om" file
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> tzd, backup any files you modify
[09:49] <tzd> ActionParsnip: will do :)
[09:52] <flipstar> anipy: 8.04 with kde3 has lts..the variante with kde4 not
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> When is KDE4 meant to be the standard KDE desktop and obsolete KDE3.5
[10:02] <zampieri> i
[10:03] <jussi01> !khardy | ActionParsnip
[10:03] <ubotu> ActionParsnip: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported.
[10:04] <crackhead100> ActionParsnip: no, not the fonts in the chat windows.. i want to change the fonts of the menus and everything in the program itself.. they are so tiny i can barely read them..
[10:08] <flipstar> crackhead100: systemsetting-->apperance-->fonts
[10:10] <tzd> ActionParsnip: It (br. translation) worked now, thanks a lot! :) I actually read about the same solution yesterday but I wasn't sure how to modify the .mo file. By following the example in the link you gave me it was A LOT easier. Anyway, one issue less and soon my kubuntu is perfect... at least until i mess it up again ;P Thanks once again
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, I didnt think all apps were kde4 compliant yet
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> tzd, sweet move dude :)
[10:11] <tzd> ^^
[10:11] <anipy> flipstar: thank you for your reply. i didn't know there will be two different KDE versions available. good news!
[10:12] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: I dont think they are, however, I know that factoid comes from Ridd.ell, so I imagine he knows what he is on about :)
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, true
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, is it hard to make kde3.5 apps use kde4. Id imagine they'd have made it backward compatible at some points
[10:15] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: if you are on kde4, you can use kde3.5 apps, of courese, just not inegrated perfectly.  ;)
[10:15] <jussi01> same as gnome apps on kde
[10:17] <vlt> Hello. What package is responsible for the translations of context menus and dialog boxes in Konqueror and KMail?
[10:18] <remedialjoe_> is that an echo i hear
[10:18] <remedialjoe_> Echo ..
[10:18] <jeje> yop
[10:18] <jeje> ah ca marche!
[10:18] <llutz> vlt: language-pack-kde-xx   xx = your language
[10:20] <vlt> llutz: Ok, thank you. What's the ...-kde-xx-base package for?
[10:20] <llutz> vlt: KDE translations for language xx          wasn't it what you asked for?
[10:23] <vlt> llutz: Aah, I see, didn't know the difference between the seldom updated -base pkg and the normal one.
[10:25] <tzd> Does anyone use the program "BasKet note pads" with "Kontact" please? I would like to use a global shortcut key for opening the BasKets please?
[10:30] <Y-Town> anyone know where to change the gnome login to kde?
[10:31] <llutz> Y-Town: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[10:31] <Y-Town> thank you
[10:40] <Roger> hello
[10:41] <ali3n51> there are some problem encountered during update
[10:41] <ali3n51> my apt is encountered some error...
[10:42] <ali3n51> the sun java plugin is encounted some erro during the update session
[10:43] <mario> bjr tlm
[10:43] <mario> je suis francais
[10:43] <mario> y a t il des francais parmi nous
[10:43] <ali3n51> what i can to comlete update withour eeror
[10:43] <llutz> !fr | mario
[10:43] <ubotu> mario: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:44] <mario> erci
[10:44] <llutz> ali3n51: open a console and type "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", paste errors to !pastebin
[10:44] <mario> merci*
[10:44] <llutz> !pastebin | ali3n51
[10:44] <ubotu> ali3n51: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:47] <ali3n51> how to correct problem in to comlete update my apt
[10:48] <jussi01> ali3n51: did you see llutz 's message before?
[10:48] <ali3n51> no
[10:49] <ali3n51> there are some proble encountered during updating my apt
[10:49] <ali3n51> i can't complete downloaded
[10:49] <jussi01> [02/28/08 12:42:16] < llutz> ali3n51: open a console and type "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", paste errors to !pastebin
[10:55] <mario> rebonjour je suis nouveau sur ce service
[10:55] <mario> je fais des essais
[10:55] <mario> merci de votre comprehension
[10:55] <jussi01> !fr | mario
[10:55] <ubotu> mario: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:55] <jussi01> mario: we only speak english in here :)
[10:56] <mario> thank you
[10:56] <jussi01> :)
[10:56] <X314> anyone know a way to make a .mkv file to a DVD5?
[10:57] <ali3n51> thx for terminal console my apt is correctly configured
[10:58] <ali3n51> is done through terminal console
[10:58] <llutz> ali3n51: nobody can help you, if you don't show us the errors you get
[11:01] <ali3n51> i am using database program in my office through vahalla linux, login...
[11:01] <ali3n51> do u thin the vahalla linux is compatible to kubuntu
[11:02] <ali3n51> my database is running through valhalla linux redhat 7.????
[11:10] <ali3n51> hello
[11:13] <BhaalWK> Hey guys, whats the best way to get compiz started with kubuntu?  I have done apt-get install compiz ... Now is there anything special I have to do to start using it?
[11:13] <BhaalWK> I assume I have to restart KDE?
[11:13] <jussi01> !compiz | BhaalWK
[11:13] <ubotu> BhaalWK: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:13] <BhaalWK> jussi01: Thanks
[11:14] <jussi01> BhaalWK: look at those instruction, there are a few more packages you need :)
[11:14] <BhaalWK> Yep
[11:14] <BhaalWK> I tried apt-get install compiz* but I am getting a conflict with compiz-compcom or something like that
[11:15] <jussi01> heh
[11:15] <BhaalWK> What you be laughing at? :S
[11:17] <Apple_Cat_> how do you set vim to turn the incremental search on ?
[11:17] <BhaalWK> Righto, easy instructions, thanks for that...
[11:18] <Apple_Cat_> sorry for being way off topic btw
[11:27] <ali3n51> compiz is also my problem after i finish i don't know how to activate
[11:28] <ali3n51> after i finish install i don't know how to activate the effects of compiz
[11:37] <dhq> what is this error division by error
[11:51] <krwlng> selam bana yardım edebilecek bi türk varmı ?
[11:51] <Unksi> dhq: the program probably tried to divide by zero, thats not possible
[11:51] <emilsedgh> !tr | krwlng
[11:51] <ubotu> krwlng: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:51] <krwlng> thanx
[11:56] <ali3n51> mabuhay kubuntu
[12:35] <cntb> !version
[12:35] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[12:37] <yao_ziyuan> what programs under linux can let me watch online tv streams and old movie streams?
[12:37] <flipstar> zattoo let you watch some tv streams..but it aint in the repos
[12:40] <tzd> is "Haldaemon" the same as "Hal" when it comes to users and groups please?
[12:45] <alesan> hi how can I slow down the mouse?
[12:45] <alesan> it is FAR too quick
[12:45] <alesan> I can barely point it where I need
[12:46] <alesan> I like a mouse like the one on the macintosh, very slow ;)
[12:46] <flipstar> systemsetting-->mouse
[12:46] <alesan> flipstar: yes, and? no setting seems to control mouse speed
[12:47] <alesan> it is a bluetooth mouse, the touchpad and IBM's nipple are ok
[12:47] <flipstar> systemsetting-->mouse-->advanced-->mouse pointer acceleration
[12:48] <alesan> flipstar: maybe I've not been clear. the problem is the SPEED not the acceleration
[12:48] <alesan> nothing in that panel works for me; I have already tried
[12:48] <flipstar> you set acceleration to 1.5 or something ?
[12:48] <alesan> long ago I remember a xset command to slow down the mouse, or similar. I must find it again
[12:49] <flipstar> and clicked apply ?
[12:49] <flipstar> maybe 1.0 is better,just tried
[12:50] <alesan> I understand what you mean. yes if I set to 1.0 the mouse gets more... mh how can I describe
[12:50] <flipstar> for me it is slower at all..
[12:50] <alesan> yes slower but also for quick movements
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> mouse settings do tend to go a bit funny if you attach a mouse after X has started
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> and you have to use xset
[12:51] <alesan> a good setting of the mouse is that, if you use if slowly, it moves slowly, if you make a very quick and short movement it goes already across the screen
[12:51] <alesan> with a setting of 1..0x it seems like the good old days with a non-proportional mouse on the commodore 64
[12:52] <alesan> SlimeyPete: as it is a bluetooth mouse, it is guaranteed it will be attached only after X (and KDE and bluez thing) has started
[12:52] <alesan> SlimeyPete: do you have an example how to operate xset? let me serach on the net
[12:53] <kaminix> !gnash
[12:53] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[12:53] <kaminix> !libflash
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libflash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <jussi01> kaminix: ??
[12:54] <kaminix> Just doing some research  :p
[12:55] <omeow> Adept just installed a list of updates and now I can no longer type a double quote. If I try it, then a / appears instead. What happened? My keyboard layout did not change. It's still set to what it was. US int.
[12:56] <soussou> is there a way I can update kubuntu and have kde4 as the default desktop?
[12:56] <soussou> someone suggested i install kde4-core
[12:56] <alesan> is KDE4 working well?
[12:56] <soussou> but that package doesn't even exist
[12:56] <soussou> alesan: according to some sources, it's not perfect, but it's working
[12:56] <kaminix> soussou: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php
[12:56] <flipstar> omeow: locale -a
[12:57] <kaminix> Instructions on the page.
[12:57] <soussou> i tried using opensuse 11, it's buggy, but very interesting
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> alesan: "xset m <acceleration> <threshold>" I think. Acceleration can be a fraction e.g. 1/10.
[12:57] <willis_> interesting because of the bugs? :)
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> so you can go much lower than the GUI tool allows
[12:58] <soussou> no, simply interesting in and out of itself, regardless of the bugs
[12:59] <alesan> soss
[12:59] <alesan> soussou, kaminix: thanks
[12:59] <alesan> SlimeyPete: will try that thanks
[13:00] <kaminix> You're welcome :)
[13:01] <omeow> flipstar: What do I need to do with that?
[13:02] <soussou> what distro has the most stable kde4 desktop?
[13:03] <soussou> I tried opensuse 11, it works, but crashes frequently
[13:03] <jussi01> soussou: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[13:07] <flipstar> soussou: fedora9 was stable when i tried for an sec or two
[13:18] <JuJuBee> I am having trouble starting dansguardian.  I get this error ... Error binding server socket (is something else running on the filter port and ip? [8080 192.168.6.200])  How do I see what else is using port 8080?
[13:22] <Briareos1> does a user need to be in a specific group to be able to use bluetooth obex push?
[13:35] <noaXess> can i set the default filemanager to konquerror instead of dolphin?
[13:36] <Apple_Cat_> sure
[13:36] <pag> !dolphin | noaXess
[13:36] <ubotu> noaXess: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[13:36] <flipstar> !dolphin
[13:37] <copondo> I have vertical lines appearing on the right side of windows, tooltips, menus etc when using Compiz/Xgl (Thinkpad R40e 384MB RAM 2.4GHz ATI) How can I fix that?
[13:38] <Apple_Cat_> is there a way to change the icons for programs, example would be change firefox icon so the the icon at the top left of window and icon in alt tab is affected by the change also
[13:39] <Apple_Cat_> i assume they both use the same icon, where should i be looking, I've tried /usr but didn't find much
[13:39] <noaXess> pag: thanks :)
[13:40] <flipstar> Apple_Cat_: i guess this is implemented into the program itself..dont know if its enough to replace the icon..
[13:41] <Apple_Cat_> hm darn, i guess I'll give up now then, not too important anyway
[13:41] <Apple_Cat_> thanks though
[13:42] <copondo> I have vertical lines appearing on the right side of windows, tooltips, menus etc when using Compiz/Xgl (Thinkpad R40e 384MB RAM 2.4GHz ATI) How can I fix that?
[13:44] <jetsaredim> hmm
[13:44] <jetsaredim> oops
[13:44] <nosrednaekim> copondo» switch to the newer FGLRX drivers and ditch XGL
[13:45] <copondo> I tried installing that. Either I didn't follow the instructions correctly, or the new FGLRX don't work with my hardware. How can I check to see if my ATI is supported, where can I get a good HowTo?
[13:46] <nosrednaekim> !ati
[13:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:46] <nosrednaekim> I think there is a link off that page for manually installing the drivers ^^
[13:47] <copondo> If it installs successfully, should I then uninstall Xgl or does FGLRX become my new compositing manager?
[13:48] <nosrednaekim> copondo» uninstall XGL
[13:48] <nosrednaekim> copondo» and you'll need to erase the "no compositing" line from your xorg.conf
[13:49] <copondo> lspci on my ThinkPad returns "ATI Technologies Inc RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M]"
[13:51] <nosrednaekim> copondo» oh.... thats old.... you might be better off with the open source ATI drivers.
[13:51] <TheGateKeeper> when is the next version due out & am I right in thinking it is an LTS version & you should be able to upgrade to it from dapper?
[13:51] <nosrednaekim> !khardy
[13:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported.
[13:51] <nosrednaekim> TheGateKeeper» Its not LTS, but I think you will be able to upgrade from dapper
[13:52] <TheGateKeeper> ok thanks nosrednaekim
[13:52] <TheGateKeeper> will give it a try when it comes out
[13:52] <copondo> nosrednaekim, how do I obtain those open source ATI drivers?
[13:53] <TheGateKeeper> hopefully they will put upgrade info on their wiki
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> TheGateKeeper» they probably will
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> copondo» they are already installed..... they come with X
[13:54] <nosrednaekim> copondo» edit your xorg.conf and change Driver "fglrx" to Driver "ati" and erase the last three lines which should be turning compositing off.
[13:56] <TheGateKeeper> be nice if I can use the update-manager
[13:56] <copondo> Default is Driver ati. Whenever I change to fglrx X refuses to start. I'm not very farmiliar with which lines to turn compositing off with. By the way thanks so much for your suggestions so far.
[13:56] <nosrednaekim> copondo» so you aren't using fglrx right now?
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> copondo» ah... then you have no need for XGL
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> have you tried running compiz without XGL?
[13:57] <copondo> Right now I'm using ati. I've experimented with radeon - no difference. With fglrx, X doesn't start
[13:58] <nosrednaekim> copondo» ok.. uninstall xserver-xgl
[13:58] <copondo> Never works. At the terminal, it says something like 'looking for xgl, not found, trying texture from pixmap, not found, returning to default metacity, not found, exiting.
[13:59] <nosrednaekim> copondo» well, lets try to fix that... probably a problem with your xorg.conf
[14:01] <copondo> By the way I must say that despite the challenges, switching to Kubuntu has been an exciting and satisfying journey. This is my first time away from Windows and I'm never returning.
[14:02] <nosrednaekim> :)
[14:02] <nosrednaekim> copondo» xgl uninstalled?
[14:04] <copondo> Uninstalled. What next?
[14:06] <nosrednaekim> copondo» log out and then back in
[14:06] <copondo> Hope I don't lose you. Be back in a moment...
[14:08] <Zizzfizzix> hi guys i have problem with logging in on my laptop :/
[14:08] <Zizzfizzix> when i type in name and pass (both correct)
[14:08] <nosrednaekim> Zizzfizzix» are you canadian.... and did you just install updates?
[14:08] <Zizzfizzix> it turns black
[14:09] <Zizzfizzix> and after while i get another login screen :/
 why canadian?
[14:09] <flipstar> just a guess
[14:09] <Zizzfizzix> i'm from poland..
[14:09] <flipstar> do you have compiz ?
[14:10] <nosrednaekim> Zizzfizzix» it matters..... ok
[14:10] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: sounds to me like a problem with your X configuration
[14:10] <flipstar> .. enabled at login?
[14:10] <Zizzfizzix> i have compiz i guess
[14:10] <Zizzfizzix> cause i had gnome
[14:10] <nosrednaekim> Zizzfizzix» there was a bad lang-pack update for canadians
[14:10] <Zizzfizzix> but i dont use it anymore
[14:10] <copondo> nosrednaekim, I'm back. What next?
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> copondo» run "glxinfo"
 do you know how to configure roght x server?
[14:11] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: when was it last working?
[14:12] <flipstar> Zizzfizzix: you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg since when did the error occure ?
[14:12] <Zizzfizzix> yesterday
[14:12] <squid0> did you do change any graphics settings since then?
[14:12] <copondo> name of display: :0.0
[14:12] <copondo> display: :0  screen: 0
[14:12] <copondo> direct rendering: Yes
[14:12] <copondo> server glx vendor string: SGI
[14:12] <copondo> server glx version string: 1.2
[14:12] <copondo> server glx extensions:
[14:12] <Zizzfizzix> nope
[14:12] <Zizzfizzix> my mum used computer and then it crashed xD
[14:12] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin | copondo for future reference
[14:12] <ubotu> copondo for future reference: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:12] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: you didn't change your monitor graphics driver?
[14:12] <flipstar> haha
[14:13] <nosrednaekim> copondo» try running compiz now.
[14:13] <Zizzfizzix> i did not change anything
[14:13] <Zizzfizzix> and my mother can't
[14:13] <flipstar> Zizzfizzix: you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:13] <Zizzfizzix> i will
[14:13] <nosrednaekim> with a -phigh
[14:14] <copondo> I think I did something stupid. I'll paste the output on pastebin now. Compiz still fails when comparing resolution to maximum 3D texture size (512)
[14:14] <flipstar> Zizzfizzix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[14:14] <Zizzfizzix> console login works right
[14:14] <nosrednaekim> copondo» ok
[14:14] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: first try what filpstar suggested. If that doesn't work: I'm not sure if this is the best way to do this, but go to a tty terminal (control + alt + 1), and login. do sudo killall kdm . then type startx, and see what is output
[14:14] <Zizzfizzix> -phigh?
[14:15] <flipstar> Zizzfizzix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[14:15] <copondo> I've put it on pastebin as copondo. Hope you read the last error.
[14:15] <flipstar> err copondo you need to paste the link..
[14:16] <dj_> slt tout le monde
[14:16] <dj_> hi everybody
[14:16] <copondo> Here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57700/
[14:16] <nosrednaekim> thanks
[14:16] <nosrednaekim> hey dj_
[14:16] <dj_> hy nosrednaekim
[14:17] <youri_> Eeeh
[14:17] <dj_> there's somebody to help me please .
[14:17] <dj_> ?
[14:17] <nosrednaekim> copondo» could you pastebin the error from compiz --replace?
[14:17] <nosrednaekim> dj_» what is the problem?
[14:17] <dj_> just a simple things ^
[14:18] <dj_> because i want to set weather as i did under ubuntu
[14:18] <Zizzfizzix> i did dpkg-reconfigure... and its rebooting now we'll see what happens
[14:18] <dj_> but under kubuntu i don't know where is it
[14:18] <Azures> hi does kubuntu support ati crossfire cards ?
[14:18] <shelly> hi, i hve been searching the forums but haven't been able to fix my problem with what i have found so i am hoping someone can walk me through it... i have a toshiba satellite a205 laptop with a realtek integrated wireless card (RTL8187B) and am having trouble getting wireless working. After using ndiswrapper to install the windos driver i get the driver installed but it says no hardware or something along those lines. I know that the car is there and works
[14:18] <shelly> cause it worked in windows.. but i hate windows so erased  it. can someone pleasehelp me fix this?
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> Azures» ATI does not... no
[14:18] <Azures> :(
[14:18] <copondo> nosrednaekim, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57702/
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> Azures» maybe soon
[14:19] <flipstar> !find weather | dj_
[14:19] <ubotu> dj_: Found: kweather, xfce4-weather-plugin, gkrellweather, libweather-com-perl, php-services-weather (and 9 others)
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> copondo» ok... now, last thing, pastebin your "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[14:19] <Zizzfizzix> guys now i cant see anything... :/
[14:19] <Zizzfizzix> after reconfigure
[14:19] <dj_> thks flipstar i'm newbie ^^
[14:20] <flipstar> dj_: just install kweather :)
[14:20] <flipstar> or an other app listed above..
[14:20] <nosrednaekim> Zizzfizzix» no login screen?
[14:20] <dj_> thks a lot flipstar
[14:20] <dj_> and an other thing ; kubuntu is good with wifi ?
[14:21] <Zizzfizzix> now i have but i had to  ctr+alt+f1
[14:21] <dj_> because i'm under virtualbox actually and i don't tes
[14:21] <Zizzfizzix> and its same as was before:/
[14:21] <dj_> test
[14:21] <copondo> nosrednaekim, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57703/
[14:22] <tri170391> dj_ : that depends on which wifi chip your card are using
[14:23] <dj_> an old chip so
[14:23] <dj_> netgear ma101
 i did waht you said and it logged me into kde 3 session
[14:24] <tri170391> i mean the chipset inside your wifi card
[14:24] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: ok, so X does work in some way
[14:24] <flipstar> !wifi | dj_
[14:24] <ubotu> dj_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
 what should i do now?
[14:24] <nosredna_ekim> copondo» sorry, did you say something?
[14:24] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: now, if you log out of KDE, try sudo kdm, perhaps
[14:25] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: not sure if there should be arguments to the kdm command
[14:25] <dj_> thks to flipstar, ubotu tri170391
 still thesame :/
[14:25] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: what is the error output?
[14:25] <squid0> pastebin it
 i havent got any
[14:25] <flipstar> Zizzfizzix: squid0 sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[14:25] <squid0> flipstar: thanks
[14:26] <Zizzfizzix> flipstar>: did
[14:26] <Zizzfizzix> and it shows
[14:27] <Zizzfizzix> not starting kdm, it is not default display man
[14:27] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: did you install ubuntu first, and then kubuntu?
[14:27] <Zizzfizzix> yes
[14:27] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: ok, so try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[14:27] <copondo> nosredna_ekim I only posted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57703/
[14:28] <Zizzfizzix> done
[14:28] <squid0> I think it will ask you whether you want kdm to be your default display manager. Answer yes
[14:28] <nosredna_ekim> copondo» thanks... my computer crashed.(over heating I think)
[14:28] <Zizzfizzix> i choose kdm-kde4
[14:28] <shelly> i know everyone is busy, but does anyone have any ideas to help me?
[14:28] <Zizzfizzix> maybe i should choose kdm?
[14:28] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: I think either one is good
[14:28] <nosredna_ekim> copondo» hum, thats odd
[14:29] <squid0> Zizzfizzix: try each, and then reboot and see what happens
[14:29] <copondo> nosredna_ekim>> Sorry about that. What's odd, my xorg.conf?
[14:29] <Zizzfizzix> it doesnt work even with kdm
[14:29] <Zizzfizzix> i must go
[14:29] <nosredna_ekim> copondo» actually, it looks good...which is whats odd, I've never seen those errors before
[14:29] <Zizzfizzix> thanks for help
[14:29] <Zizzfizzix> bye
[14:30] <nosredna_ekim> copondo» ask in #compiz-fusion... I need to get going
[14:30] <copondo> Thanks so much for your help. I'm in Nairobi, Kenya (East Africa) Good day/evening.
[14:31] <nosredna_ekim> your english is very very good :)
[14:31] <nosredna_ekim> morning actually;)
[14:31] <copondo> Thanks. Where are you?
[14:31] <nosredna_ekim> eastern US
[14:31] <flipstar> west europe
[14:32] <nosredna_ekim> no-one asked you flipstar :P
[14:32] <flipstar> :(
[14:32] <nosredna_ekim> :)
[14:32] <copondo> It's 5.30 p.m. here. You must know Nairobi, Kenya. We've been in the news the last few weeks for all the wrong reasons.
[14:32] <nosredna_ekim> oh yes......
[14:33] <nosredna_ekim> knew about you before that though.... sounds like a nice little tourist trap :)
[14:33] <tri170391> Anyone have this problem? When I do anything that need to shut X down (like Shutting Down, or Reboot etc.) it quit KDE then hang at a black screen. This problem just pop up after I install the latest fglrx driver.
[14:33] <xxBasYxx> Hi im looking for easy to use HTML editor
[14:34] <flipstar> xxBasYxx: bluefish
[14:34] <tri170391> Pushing the power button continue the shutdown process but without doing it, it just hang there.
[14:34] <SlimeyPete> xxBasYxx: bluefish or quanta (both non-WYSIWYG though)
[14:35] <xxBasYxx> flipstar thanx found i try that one are there any other for compare
[14:35] <xxBasYxx> SlimeyPete: THANKS
[14:35] <shelly> .... i guess not or i am being ignored... so i guee i will keep searching and hope to understand and fix problem myself....
[14:40] <squid0> hey, is there a way to play a video as a screensaver in kde?
[14:45] <frogface_> Hmm... Is it possible to share my internet connection over the wifi on 2 dell inspirons? Is DNS Masquarading the answer?
[14:51] <Dragonath> how come sound in quake III is ok when nothing else is using the sound card, but when I listen to something on amarok (for example), the game is jerky and sound nearly nonexistent?
[14:52] <Dragonath> right now I started quake 3 with 'aoss quake3'
[14:52] <Dragonath> usually I just do 'quake3', there's no sound then
[14:52] <Dragonath> aside from amarok ofc
[15:00] <Yuchan> how do I change the person who owns a file? chmod?
[15:00] <SlimeyPete> chown
[15:01] <SlimeyPete> chown yuchan file.txt
[15:01] <Yuchan> thank you slimey!
[15:01] <chafka> i have installed broadcom 4311 firmware from kubuntu 7.10 and its working i found some network but i cant connect ?? any help??
[15:04] <pushax> hi all.  can someone tell me their firefox 3 java directory string from about:firefox... please?  That's if you have java working in the browser!
[15:05] <pushax> about:config ... sorry
[15:05] <pushax> anyone?
[15:05] <pushax> I've tried looking on websites but they are either old or confusing
[15:06] <pushax> ubuntu.com is no help
[15:06] <pushax> hi all.  can someone tell me their firefox 3 java directory string from url "about:config" ... please?  That's if you have java working in the browser!
[15:06] <Dragonath> firefox 3 is unreleased atm if I'm right, it's still in beta :)
[15:07] <Dragonath> so I don't know, sorry
[15:07] <pushax> Dragonath: that's right, but alto of people still use it
[15:07] <pushax> Dragonath: do you use f2?
[15:07] <Dragonath> yes, for bug testing
[15:07] <Dragonath> yup
[15:07] <noaXess> what about this.. if i run an app that needs my password like adept_manager.. the entry in the taskbar are doubled.. the app does normal starts once.. see screenshot http://files.wmx.ch/upload/jpg/70_gkrellShoot_08-02-28_160511.jpg
[15:08] <pushax> Dragonath: can you tell me your java string from about:config ??
[15:08] <pushax> noaXess: that's normal
[15:08] <Dragonath> hmm about:config shows me several strings
[15:08] <noaXess> pushax: ?? why??..
[15:08] <Dragonath> which one do you mean?
[15:09] <pushax> Dragonath: see the filter at top and put in java
[15:09] <Dragonath> noaXess: what do you mean by that last bit?
[15:09] <Dragonath> pushax: I did that
[15:09] <pushax> Dragonath: I need the java.default_java_location_others
[15:09] <noaXess> Dragonath: why will the app entry in taskbar be twice?
[15:10] <Dragonath>  /usr/java
[15:10] <pushax> noaXess: it because there are two stages running. one to kickstart and the other the real app.  I believe
[15:10] <Dragonath> noaXess: probably because it shows you the window that's asking for your root password
[15:10] <pushax> Dragonath: okt that's the default setting.  so you have java working in firefox2?
[15:11] <Dragonath> so there's two windows - one is the real adept manager window, and one is adept manager asking for your password
[15:11] <Dragonath> yes java works in my firefox
[15:11] <pushax> noaXess: the kickstart part should close once it's done it's task
[15:11] <noaXess> Dragonath: no.. eg. if i close the app and run it again.. i don't need enter a password.. and it happends again.. two taskbar entries.. after few seconds the first goes away..
[15:11] <pushax> Dragonath: ok thanks for time.
[15:12] <Dragonath> maybe it still runs the password checker
[15:12] <noaXess> pushax: then it's really normal.. also that the mouse app icon jumps around until the first kickstart part closes..
[15:12] <Dragonath> but it finds out that you just typed in the password
[15:12] <Dragonath> so it's nice and lets you go
[15:12] <Dragonath> hmm pushax maybe java doesn't work in my ff :)
[15:13] <heras> How can you set tab indentation length in Kate from 8 to 4? Emax mixed mode allows "Number of spaces" but I'd rather have 'shorter' tabs.
[15:13] <pushax> noaXess: yep.  the mouse shoudl have the busy mode going.  maybee the kickstart is really kdesu running the task chosen but showing the icon and name fo the app to run
[15:13] <pushax> Dragonath: hehehehe.
[15:13] <Dragonath> heras: I think the standard length for a tab symbol is 8 spaces
[15:14] <noaXess> pushax: okay.. i think i understand.. only for information.. the app itself runs while the mouse pointer jumps and the second taskbar entry is doing something..
[15:14] <pushax> Dragonath: oh well least it's the deafult.  I'll start from scratch on geting it going
[15:14] <Dragonath> there's two types of whitespace (maybe more, not sure), one is just one char long, the other is 8
[15:14] <Dragonath> pushax: good luck
[15:14] <heras> Dragonath: Yes, I thinks so to, but I believe vimrc allows you to change tab length for instance
[15:15] <Dragonath> heras: I don't think kate is so advanced as to let you do that, but I'm not sure - I'm no KDE expert :)
[15:15] <pushax> noaXess: most likely.  I'm no expert as I've only been with linux for a month on this round.  I believe that KDEsu is a separate program that runs other tasks.  it handles masqurading or running with other use privileges
[15:15] <heras> Dragonath: ok, thanks anyway :)
[15:16] <Dragonath> yes, for all I know kdesu is a graphical frontend for su
[15:16] <pushax> anyone else got java working in firefox3 ??
[15:17] <dj_> bye bye here
[15:17] <dj_> and good afternoon everybody
[15:17] <pushax> bye dj
[15:17] <dj_> thks pushax
[15:17] <pushax> anyone else got java working in firefox3 ??
[15:17] <Dragonath> pushax: tried following any firefox 2 walkthroughs?
[15:18] <pushax> Dragonath: nope as I had java working in ff2 in previous install, simply by installing jre2.  this hasn't happened with ff3
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :-)
[15:19] <pushax> brb cuppa time
[15:26] <pushax> back...anyone else got java working in firefox3 ??
[15:27] <_Shade_> where can i get qt4.4 for hardy? is there any package or do i need to compile it on my own?
[15:29] <Dragonath> pushax: found something on the mozev.org site - http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/firefox-linux.html#install-java
[15:29] <pushax> _Shade_: I get 4.3.4 listed in default reps.
[15:29] <pushax> Dragonath: looking now. thx
[15:30] <mrunagi> im afraid to apply these updates........it has a language pack in it
[15:30] <Zizzfizzix> hi guys do you remember me?
[15:30] <mrunagi> no
[15:30] <_Shade_> pushax: but i meant 4.4
[15:30] <Zizzfizzix> i have problems with logingin
[15:31] <pushax> _Shade_: yep
[15:31] <mrunagi> is language-pack-kde-en-base one that i have to worry about?
[15:32] <lian_> Hello I don't find how to change my resolution in KDE
[15:32] <mrunagi> lian_: settings > desktop > resolutino
[15:33] <lian_> mrunagi,  in fact, now using kde is very hard lol
[15:34] <lian_> mrunagi,  i try to find it
[15:34] <_Shade_> pushax: there's no qt4.4 in the repos
[15:34] <Dragonath> pushax: I think java now works in my FF, so it might in yours - I used the mozdev stuff
[15:34] <mrunagi> lian_ i havent founbd it to be hard and ir esisted kde or w hile
[15:34] <Zizzfizzix> i have problem: i can't login using kdm it's only changing black for a while and then again shows login screen
[15:34] <mrunagi> Zizzfizzix: are you canadian?
[15:34] <Zizzfizzix> no im not
[15:34] <mrunagi> hrm
[15:35] <pushax> Dragonath: I haven't put the sym link in yet as I want to know if my version of java is same as 5.0.09
[15:35] <Dragonath> I just did a find for the javaplugin.so file
[15:35] <Dragonath> and symlinked that
[15:35] <Dragonath> seems to work
[15:36] <pushax> so you didn't link to libkavaplugin?
[15:36] <Zizzfizzix> do you know what to do with this login problem ?
[15:36] <pushax> so you didn't link to libjavaplugin?
[15:37] <Dragonath> I linked to libjavaplugin_oji.so
[15:38] <Dragonath> Zizzfizzix: I don't really know what might be causing this, but restarting the X server might change something
[15:39] <Zizzfizzix> Dragonath: how to do this?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> mrunagi:  that update lag-pack mess didn'y just affect canadians...think I mentioned that some US repos also had the same probs
[15:41] <mrunagi> which is why im not installing my updates till i get an answer
[15:43] <Zizzfizzix> i've tried to restart x server but it does nothing
[15:44] <Zizzfizzix> how to create account: bag with pass: bag in konsole?
[15:44] <Zizzfizzix> i can then try with another user
[15:44] <BluesKaj> !lang-pack | mrunagi
[15:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lang-pack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:45] <BluesKaj> !info language-pack
[15:45] <ubotu> Package language-pack does not exist in gutsy
[15:45] <BluesKaj> hmmm there was a bot script here yesterday , about the language-pack-kde-en-base
[15:46] <Pici> !langpack
[15:46] <ubotu> A recent update broke some KDE language packs, leaving the user unable to login. (http://launchpad.net/bugs/195647) To fix this, remove the updated packages (language-pack-kde-en, language-pack-kde-en-base) and restart KDE.
[15:46] <Pici> !lang-pack is <alias> langpack
[15:46] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[15:46] <BluesKaj> yup, thx Pici
[15:49]  * frank232 is wondering how that bad language-pack update got through to the repos and why it isn't fixed yet
[15:49] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, you should beware of that update, some ppl are deleting them from their package mangers
[15:53] <mrunagi> how do i remove the packages from my update
[15:53] <kersinc> #kubuntu-es
[15:57] <mrunagi> Zizzfizzix: are you still here?
[15:58] <jesus> allow
[16:02] <mrunagi> i think i accidently removed my lang packages already installed
[16:08] <frode> hello, i have problems with the dpkg database file being locked. i have earlier typed sudo dpkg --configure -a. but now i get the message about the database area being locked by another prosess?
[16:11] <mrunagi> !aptlock
[16:11] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:16] <mrunagi> frode read above
[16:20] <juan> hello
[16:34] <eduardo_> españñol
[16:34] <Pici> !es | eduardo_
[16:34] <ubotu> eduardo_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:38] <eduardo_> cual es en español
[16:38] <eduardo_> ?
[16:38] <eduardo_> español
[16:39] <Pici> eduardo_: por favor escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[16:39] <eduardo_> ok
[16:39] <eduardo_> pero uso kubuntu
[16:39] <Pici> No habla espanol, yo es ingles.
[16:40] <eduardo_> ok thanks
[16:51] <anto> france
[16:51] <anto> kubuntu france
[16:51] <anto> FRENCH
[16:51] <Pici> !fr | anto
[16:51] <ubotu> anto: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:53] <wietse> hiya
[16:53] <wietse> i'm trying to install a script
[16:53] <wietse> but am a bit of a beginner
[16:53] <wietse> its a tool to record skype conversations
[16:54] <wietse> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=19094
[16:54] <wietse> someone has written a script
[16:54] <wietse> can anyone help me install it?
[16:57] <Arwen> wietse, move the .so file to /usr/local/lib and the file "skype-rec" to /usr/local/bin
[16:58] <wietse> ok
[16:58] <Arwen> then type "skype-rec" in a terminal
[16:58] <wietse> ok hold on
[16:58]  * wietse goes try
[16:59] <wietse> Arwen: which one is the .so file?
[16:59] <wietse> i can only see 3: Makefile, skype-rec and skyperec.c
[17:00] <Arwen> oh, you have to build it first
[17:00] <wietse> :-/
[17:00] <Arwen> make sure you've installed "build-essential" and then type "make"
[17:00] <wietse> i've only extracted the files
[17:00] <wietse> how do i install 'buidl essential' ?
[17:00] <Arwen> apt-get build-essential
[17:00] <wietse> ok
[17:01] <wietse> E: Invalid operation build-essential
[17:01] <Arwen> oh, wait, apt-get install build-essential
[17:01] <Arwen> hehe
[17:01] <wietse> ah
[17:02] <grul> why use apt-get when using aptitude keeps track of dependencies or whatever the difference was? i'm sure aptitude was better in some way
[17:03] <Arwen> dependencies blah blah blah...
[17:05] <wietse> Arwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57717/
[17:06] <Arwen> ....stop running adept/whatever/
[17:07] <wietse> ?
[17:07] <yao_ziyuan> i wonder if you guys are ok with the pidgin 2.2.1 in ubuntu's repostory
[17:07] <wietse> sorry, i dont understand
[17:07] <yao_ziyuan> because mine often crashes silently
[17:07] <grul> i see, the newest versions of apt-get has the dependecy function aswell
[17:08] <grul> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude :)
[17:08] <grul> if you use apt-get autoremove
[17:21] <nuxil> hi all.. i got this problem with configuring my mouse and could use some help
[17:21] <nuxil> i got this logitech mouse "media mouse" with lots of buttons on it. and i would like to use it as a remote for amarok
[17:21] <nuxil> however i got problems getting 2 buttons to work. the left/right scroll buttons does not work at all.
[17:21] <nuxil> but xev show's them as button 6 and 7. i have used !! xbindkeys !! to modify|access buttons on my mouse.
[17:21] <nuxil> heres is my .xbindkeysrc in my home dir : http://pastebin.ca/922209
[17:21] <nuxil> here is mediamouse program i made. : http://pastebin.ca/922211
[17:21] <nuxil> all other buttons works exect this left/right scroll ones. does Kde lock em up somehow ??? please help,
[17:21] <nuxil> spam :P
[17:23] <beautifulsnow> I'm getting this when I try to do anything with wine:::: Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible. :-/ Could anyone please give me any pointers, I googled and it seems a few people fixed it but they didn't say how
[17:24] <beautifulsnow> I've tried removing and purging wine, deleting all the folders I know of.... And then reinstalling, and .. nothing :(
[17:24] <nuxil> wine about it P
[17:25] <beautifulsnow> LOL
[17:25] <beautifulsnow> I am *cry* :P
[17:25] <coggz> hi
[17:25] <coggz> need help with wireless
[17:25] <beautifulsnow> I seems like people in #Kubuntu are so much more laid back /friendly than #ubuntu.. Why would that be LOL
[17:25] <nuxil> xbindkeys -f ~/.xbindkeysrc starts my modifyed keys exept buttons 6 and 7
[17:26]  * nuxil wounders why!
[17:26] <beautifulsnow> Makes me want to swich to Kubuntu... ;p Most of the apps I use are K anyway;..
[17:26] <jpatrick> beautifulsnow: cos we rock more?
[17:27] <nuxil> jpatrick, can you help me with my problem=
[17:27] <coggz> anyone wanna help with wireless? plz
[17:27] <nuxil> *?
[17:27] <beautifulsnow>  \m\~__^/m/
[17:27] <beautifulsnow> What's with wireless coggz
[17:27] <coggz> ok, my card picks up networks, but does not allow connection
[17:27] <jpatrick> nuxil: have you tried reconfigurating xorg?
[17:27] <coggz> tried restarting networking etc..
[17:28] <beautifulsnow> coggz is it a WEP/WPA  wireless  connection, or a open non encrypted one?
[17:28] <jpatrick> nuxil: if not, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:28] <coggz> WPA, beautifulsnow, it worked fine until i hibernated a few days ago
[17:28] <nuxil> jpatrick, yes i also added.  Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7 8 9"
[17:28] <beautifulsnow> Ugggh xD
[17:29] <jpatrick> nuxil: hmm, sorry, don't know about that..
[17:29] <beautifulsnow> That hibernate ruins our lives
[17:29] <nuxil> jpatrick, i dont want to have it reconfigures..
[17:29] <coggz> oh, lol
[17:29] <coggz> is suspend better?
[17:29] <nuxil> i need help understanding why button 6 and 7 does not work.. xev show them working.. strange
[17:30] <beautifulsnow> I think suspend  can cause issues too coggz, it happens in windows to me too :P So I never use hibernate/suspend ;) I wonder if you've googled your issue, because maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516480 would help, let me know if it does
[17:32] <coggz> hmm, not really beautifulsnow
[17:33]  * beautifulsnow wonders if this one would be a better help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566864
[17:33] <coggz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57721/ for  lshw -C network
[17:34] <beautifulsnow> I am no help with that Q_Q Most of the things I find that help my pc issues are from ubuntuforums ^^;; sorry
[17:36] <coggz> ok, ty, btw - where is config for knetworkmanager stored? how do i make it auto config not manual
[17:37] <Arwen> question - how do I sync a local copy of a git tree with the upstream repository?
[17:38] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[17:39] <nuxil> + /join
[17:39] <nuxil> stupid mouse
[17:42] <jpatrick> Arwen: might want to try: #git ?
[17:53] <Vermux> how do I watch web content. The web site wants me to install CUPlayer.xpi but the installation fails (using firefox)?????
[17:54] <BluesKaj> Vermux:  give us the site url
[17:58] <nuxil> wee.. fixed my problem :)
[17:59] <jussi01> cool
[18:00] <nuxil> strange.. short click on scrol "left/right" gave me button 6/7 but when i hold in the buttons for a while. them show up as 11 and 12.
[18:01] <nuxil> just had to add same argument twise. with 2 diff buttons assignment.
[18:02] <Vermux> BluesKaj: http://www.kab.tv/eng
[18:02]  * nuxil smells a bug in xbindkeys
[18:04] <Vermux> BluesKaj: and http://download.castup.net/products/Player/CUPlayer.xpi
[18:05] <Vermux> http://download.castup.net/products/Player/CUPlayer.xpi
[18:05] <Vermux> how do I install that?
[18:05] <jussi01> Vermux: hang on a sec, im just testing...
[18:05] <nuxil> put the file in you pulgin dit
[18:05] <nuxil> *dir
[18:05] <jussi01> Vermux: you dont. install vlc and the mozilla plugin for it. works here
[18:06] <Vermux> ?
[18:06] <jussi01> Vermux: sudo apt-get install vlc mozilla-plugin-vlc
[18:07] <Arwen> the VLC plugin sucks major >_<
[18:07] <Vermux> During the previous startup, KNotify crashed while instantiating KNotify. Do you want to try again or disable aRts sound output?
[18:07] <Vermux> If you choose to disable aRts output now, you can re-enable it later or select an alternate sound player in the System Notifications control panel.
[18:07] <jussi01> Arwen: works perfectly here.
[18:07] <Vermux> it happaned when I try to install VLC
[18:08] <Arwen> jussi01, last I checked, it has no controls at all?
[18:08] <jussi01> Arwen: correct. but the thing is it works, unlike some others.
[18:08] <jussi01> Vermux: try again
[18:08] <Arwen> eh, I don't use a plugin, but mplayer-plugin was ok last time I checked
[18:09] <jussi01> Arwen: yeah, mplayers one is ok, but I have had issues with it on some sites.
[18:09] <Vermux> why it wants me to insert the CD of 7.10?
[18:09] <jussi01> Vermux: because you still have it marked as a repository
[18:09] <Vermux> it asked me to do that several times when I installed updates
[18:09] <Vermux> ?
[18:09] <Vermux> can I cancell that, or I have to insert the CD?
[18:10] <jussi01> insert it this time, then ill tell you how to fix
[18:10] <Vermux> k
[18:11] <jussi01> Vermux: you can turn it off in adept -> manage repositories -> third party repositories -> uncheck the cd
[18:12] <jussi01> Vermux: but you need to wait for the install to finnish before you do that.
[18:13] <Vermux> ok, I did that
[18:13] <Vermux> I installed
[18:13] <Vermux> and changed that option of the Cd
[18:13] <Vermux> jussi01: ^
[18:14] <jussi01> :)
[18:14] <Vermux> what now?
[18:14] <jussi01> Vermux: now restart firefox and try that site
[18:15] <jussi01> Vermux: it says no video for a bit while it buffers, then starts playing
[18:15] <jussi01> the time it takes depends on your internet connection.
[18:15] <[T]an1> i have had no success getting my soundcard to work in ubuntu
[18:15] <[T]an1> here is from lscpi
[18:15] <[T]an1> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[18:15] <[T]an1> any ideas on where I can go from here?
[18:16] <[T]an1> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory
[18:16] <jussi01> !intelhda | [T]an1
[18:16] <ubotu> [T]an1: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:16] <[T]an1> I have actually tried these steps with no success
[18:17] <[T]an1> root@slobberknocker:~# cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[18:17] <[T]an1> cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#*: No such file or directory
[18:17] <Vermux> jussi01: installation error
[18:18] <Vermux> jussi01: installation of npmozax.dll failed. error code 202
[18:20] <zizzfizzix> hi guys
[18:20] <Vermux> jussi01: help
[18:20] <jussi01> Vermux: when you do what?
[18:20] <zizzfizzix> i have problem with login in
[18:20] <jussi01> !patience | Vermux
[18:20] <ubotu> Vermux: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[18:20] <Vermux> going to http://download.castup.net/products/Player/CUPlayer.xpi
[18:20] <jussi01> !langpack | zizzfizzix
[18:20] <ubotu> zizzfizzix: A recent update broke some KDE language packs, leaving the user unable to login. (http://launchpad.net/bugs/195647) To fix this, remove the updated packages (language-pack-kde-en, language-pack-kde-en-base) and restart KDE.
[18:20] <zizzfizzix> when i type in name and pass
[18:21] <zizzfizzix> nope
[18:21] <zizzfizzix> i did not update
[18:21] <zizzfizzix> it shows black screen
[18:21] <zizzfizzix> and then again login screen
[18:21] <jussi01> Vermux: you dont need that, just go to the original site and see if it works
[18:21] <Vermux> jussi01: I went to http://download.castup.net/products/Player/CUPlayer.xpi and tried to install it
[18:21] <zizzfizzix> now i did
[18:22] <zizzfizzix> console login, sudo startx and i have kde3 session
[18:22] <zizzfizzix> but im using kde4
[18:22] <zizzfizzix> i would like to use*
[18:22] <anto> kubunt france
[18:22] <anto> french
[18:23] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: there was an updatetoday that should fix it, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:23] <anto> kubuntu france
[18:23] <jussi01> !fr | anto
[18:23] <ubotu> anto: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:23] <Vermux> jussi01: I need that to watch a different thing
[18:23] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: i will
[18:23] <jussi01> Vermux: what do you need it to watch?
[18:24] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: but if i login to another account i works properly
[18:24] <zizzfizzix> do you know what is the problem?
[18:24] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: Im not sure on that, but please try an update and see if it fixes it.
[18:25] <Vermux> jussi01: http://acrosec.com/ watch the video
[18:25] <Vermux> jussi01: click on "view the video on the right
[18:26] <jussi01> Vermux: one moment
[18:26] <michael> how can I instal invidia drivers on my kubuntu 7.10 ?
[18:27] <DaSkreech> !nvidia
[18:27] <IgorS> !nvidia
[18:27] <jussi01> yay, the bot died.
[18:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:28] <IgorS> thanks
[18:28] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: it does nothing..
[18:28] <zizzfizzix> maybe i need repo?
[18:29] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: can you pastebin your sources.list for me?
[18:29] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: pastebin?
[18:30] <jussi01> !paste | zizzfizzix
[18:30] <ubotu> zizzfizzix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:30] <DaSkreech> The Goggles! They do nothing!
[18:30] <zizzfizzix> yes i can 'n will
[18:31] <jussi01> Vermux: curios, it seems to work here, as in it displays a picture where the video should be just click the bit about open it in an externeal player
[18:31] <jussi01> see if it works for you
[18:32] <Aranel> how can I limit grep() ? Example: If i search UDP, i dont need 'UDPLITE'.
[18:34] <Vermux> jussi01: it asks me to install the player, when Im trying to install it, it has error
[18:35] <jussi01> Vermux: look at the next line, what does it say
[18:35] <zizzfizzix> %c4 jussi01: http://pastebin.pl/266
[18:35] <stdin> Aranel: grep -w or just 'grep " UDP "'
[18:35] <zizzfizzix>  jussi01 http://pastebin.pl/266
[18:36] <Aranel> stdin: thanks :)
[18:37] <Vermux> jussi01: ffox is stuck
[18:37] <Vermux> jussi01: it was closed
[18:37] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: are you using automatix o.O ??????
[18:38] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: i installed it long time ago..
[18:38] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: I do hope its uninstalled.
[18:38] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: why?
[18:38] <jussi01> !automatix
[18:38] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[18:39] <zizzfizzix> xD
[18:39] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: also, please take note of:
[18:39] <jussi01> !studiorepo
[18:39] <ubotu> All Ubuntu Studio 7.10 Gutsy packages are included in the official Ubuntu repos. However, Ubuntu Studio 7.04 had its own custom addon repository. This is no longer supported or available. Please use Ubuntu Studio Gutsy.
[18:39] <Vermux> jussi01: is there a way to install that player?
[18:40] <jussi01> Vermux: not that i know of. sorry.
[18:40] <Vermux> anybody knows how to install Cast UP Player?
[18:41] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: i'll check it out if it's uninstalled
[18:41] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: you have a lot of strange repos, including debian ones. there are a million things that could be causing this.
[18:41] <jussi01> !debian | zizzfizzix
[18:41] <ubotu> zizzfizzix: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[18:41] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: but you see it's only on my profile
[18:41] <zizzfizzix> that problem
[18:42] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: you could try mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old
[18:42] <jussi01> in your home folder
[18:42] <amunra> Ubuntu = debian
[18:42] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: for what?
[18:42] <amunra> It's almost the exact same thing
[18:42] <amunra> *almost*
[18:42] <stdin> amunra: no
[18:42] <amunra> ;D
[18:43] <amunra> stdin: What's the difference besides maybe the kernel and a few set up files?
[18:43] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: that will put all your settings to .kde-old, and it will creat default setttings.
[18:43] <amunra> I have both installed - both feel the same... albeit Ubuntu is a bit faster
[18:43] <zizzfizzix> oh i see you want me to clear my settings..
[18:43] <zizzfizzix> L)
[18:43] <zizzfizzix> :)
[18:43] <jussi01> :)
[18:43] <stdin> amunra: the options used to compile our packages and the process used to get them included
[18:43] <yuji> is there a way to organize the virtual desktops so that they lie in a 3x3 grid instead of just growing wider?
[18:43] <stdin> the support period
[18:43] <stdin> our individual patches
[18:43] <stdin> and more ;)
[18:44] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: automatix is out so i can remove that repos
[18:44] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: great
[18:44] <yuji> or stop the "one desktop left" "one desktop right" commands from looping when they hit the last desktop?
[18:44] <amunra> stdin: Ah ;) - I just meant the base system etc - it is very similar anyways... "on first look"
[18:47] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: i should logout & in now yes?
[18:47] <mollitz> weiß jemand grad, wo die skripts sind, die bei multimedia-tasten aufgerufen werden ?
[18:47] <stdin> !de | mollitz
[18:47] <ubotu> mollitz: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:48] <Yuchan> How do I check what ports are in use and how do I free them? (my localhost webserver suddenly stopped / says port is in use)
[18:48] <stdin> "sudo netstat -lnp|less", then kill the process that's open on the port
[18:49] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: you could try...
[18:51] <mollitz> damn, i thougt i'd have been in a german room im sorry ;)
[18:53] <Yuchan> stdin: thank you! kill -9 worked
[18:53] <stdin> heh, kill -9 *always* works :p
[18:53] <stdin> well, almost always
[18:54] <Yuchan> the others failed me. :(
[18:57] <cinex> muhaha
[18:57] <cinex> the promised land?
[18:59] <sorsis> how do i update 7.04 kubuntu to 7.10?
[18:59] <cinex> hmmm
[18:59] <cinex> with apt?
[18:59] <n2aag> hey..  can anyone tell me why KNetworkManager takes so long to refresh the list of available networks?  (iwlist wlan0 scan has up to date information)
[19:00] <jussi01> !upgrade
[19:00] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:00] <sorsis> cinex: do i have to edit sources.list manually?
[19:00] <cinex> no
[19:00] <cinex> im not sure sorsis
[19:00] <jussi01> sorsis: see the link from ubotu
[19:00] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: i did logout but it changes nothing
[19:00] <cinex> dist-upgrade
[19:01] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: I think maybe you need to enable gutsy updates I didnt see them in your sources list.
[19:01] <cinex> sorsis: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:01] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: im thinking of reinstalling kubuntu
[19:01] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: ahat are these?
[19:01] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: I would recomend that, you had a lot of random repos there
[19:02] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: most of the was from official polish ubuntu forum
[19:02] <zizzfizzix> them*
[19:02] <sorsis> cinex: no luck.
[19:02] <cinex> oh
[19:02] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: how to enable these gutsy upgrades?
[19:02] <cinex> looks like you will need the disk then
[19:02] <cinex> and install it over the top
[19:03] <cinex> (leaving your $HOME and file directorys as is)
[19:03] <cinex> directorys/paritions
[19:03] <jussi01> sorsis: did you look at the link from the bot?
[19:03] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: in adept - manage repositories
[19:04] <sorsis> jussi01: I'll install gnome update-manager and update with it.
[19:04] <tominglis> hi, how do i check to see which version of the uvc video driver i am running?
[19:05] <tominglis> i am trying to troubleshoot a problem i am having with my webcam
[19:05] <tominglis> and i think i've installed the latest version of the driver from the Linux UVS Subversion repository
[19:05] <zizzfizzix> jussi01: i have all enabled
[19:05] <tominglis> but i don't know how to check that
[19:06] <zizzfizzix> what should i backup from my installation before reinstalling kubuntu?
[19:06] <tominglis> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/linux-uvc
[19:07] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: most stuff in $home
[19:08] <zizzfizzix> okay i will
[19:08] <zizzfizzix> anything else?
[19:08] <ere4si> tominglis, here's the wiki - http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Linux+UVC
[19:09] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: /etc can be a good idea
[19:09] <jussi01> zizzfizzix: remeber to grab the .folders also
[19:10] <zizzfizzix> ~/.folders?
[19:10] <zizzfizzix> ahh
[19:10] <zizzfizzix> .xxxxx
[19:10] <zizzfizzix> :)
[19:10] <jussi01> yeah, like .kde .mozilla etc
[19:10] <zizzfizzix> $home and /etc
[19:10] <zizzfizzix> nothing else?
[19:12] <zizzfizzix> do you think i should choose kubuntu iso with kde 3.5.9 and add 4.0.1 or just kubuntu 4.0.1?
[19:12] <jussi01> 3.5.9 will be more stable imho
[19:14] <tominglis> ere4si: yes i know, i used that to install the driver, although i think the location mentioned under ubuntu 6.06 is wrong
[19:14] <tominglis> ere4si: i just want to check what version i have running right now
[19:14] <tominglis> ere4si: i.e. whether i was successful installing it
[19:16] <ere4si> tominglis, I couldn't find much on google about it and don't use it - try typing uvc in konsole - or man uvc
[19:16] <ere4si> tominglis, something should show if it is there
[19:16] <flaccid> !compiz
[19:16] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:17] <tominglis> ere4si, i think it's just a .ko driver file or set of them, is there no command to see all loaded driver modules?
[19:17] <Pici> lsmod
[19:17] <ere4si> tominglis, not that I know but I know little
[19:17] <trappist> tominglis: lsmod will show all loaded modules, driver or not
[19:18] <ere4si> tominglis, Pici says lsmod
[19:24] <tominglis> so it says uvcvideo is loaded, but is there a way for me to check the version? i compiled it to the same location as the old file, not the location which it mentions in the wiki
[19:24] <tominglis> and it is there
[19:38] <DaSkreech> how can I query a libs version?
[19:43] <jussi01> DaSkreech: what exactly do you mean?
[19:44] <DaSkreech> Like libnotun
[19:44] <jussi01> DaSkreech: if installed through apt, apt-cache policy package
[19:44] <DaSkreech> ah
[19:44] <DaSkreech> supposed I just needed to check the version string in a bash script?
[19:45] <jussi01> hrmm... not sure
[19:45]  * DaSkreech sighs as Netscape tells him that he should get rid of it
[19:52] <BluesKaj> vermux, sorry I had to do some errands ...I checked your site and my xine and mplayer plugins on Konqueror work, so FF should play them with mozilla-xine plugin as well
[19:53] <rodolfo> un Irc en español?
[19:53] <trappist> !es
[19:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» got that lang-pac stuff all fixed up?
[19:57] <jackault> so, I was just sharing some files with the webserver thing that comes built in and suddenly out of the blue my taskbar disappears.
[19:57] <jackault> sup?
[19:57] <jackault> oh and the webserver went down.
[19:58] <trappist> see if you can find out who downloaded your task bar, and make him give it back
[19:58] <jackault> Ridiculous, he'd never give it back! It was such a lovely taskbar with transparency and all, guess I'd just have to log out and in again to get it.
[19:59] <jackault> which I did. But why'd it go down?
[19:59] <trappist> well kicker sometimes craches.  I just do alt-f2 -> kicker when that happens.
[19:59] <trappist> *crashes
[19:59] <jackault> And that would take the webserver with it?
[20:00] <trappist> not usually, no
[20:00] <jackault> That's what I'm wondering about.
[20:00] <trappist> I'm pretty sure they don't come anywhere near touching each other
[20:00] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: all fixed ...better than previous install, konq is more stable and back to being my default browser...feels like I'm "home" again
[20:00] <BluesKaj> :)
[20:00] <trappist> I've never used any kind of builtin http filesharing feature, maybe it's unstable
[20:01] <jackault> They both went down at the same time though. Right after I saw in the monitoring thing that a location "..." was being accessed
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» ::)
[20:01] <BluesKaj> what's a good app for displaying pc specs ?
[20:02] <jussi01> kinfo ceter
[20:02] <jussi01> center even
[20:03] <jussi01> BluesKaj: under system
[20:04] <jackault> or if you've got katapult on just press alt+space and type kinf
[20:04] <BluesKaj> yeah kinfo is good ,but it's a bit detailed for a general descrption of cpu, ram, hdd peripherals
[20:06] <jussi01> BluesKaj: you using konversation? /sysinfo (not here though :D )
[20:06] <jussi01> :P
[20:06] <BluesKaj> yup
[20:07] <BluesKaj> installing sysinfo
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> Sysinfo for 'geebee': Linux 2.6.22-7-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50 at 800 MHz (1601 bogomips), HD: 32/83GB, RAM: 856/877MB, 132 proc's, 5.46h up
[20:08] <Pici> not here please.
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> oops.... I just read that :)
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> sorry
[20:08] <jussi01> hehe
[20:09]  * nosrednaekim goes and hides under a rock.... is always doing dumb stuff like that
[20:09] <jussi01> BluesKaj: btw, the login problem with the lang packs was fixed, (just fyi)
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> !lanpack | no need for this any more then I suppose
[20:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanpack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> !langpack
[20:10] <ubotu> A recent update broke some KDE language packs, leaving the user unable to login. (http://launchpad.net/bugs/195647) This has now been fixed and an updated package is in the -updates repo. If you removed the packages with the interim fix you can reinstall them with: << sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-en-base >>
[20:10] <jussi01> :D
[20:10]  * jussi01 1 nosrednaekim 0
[20:11]  * nosrednaekim lets rock fall real hard on his head..... get stoned..
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> jussi01» use my little french arrow :)
[20:12] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim:  what cmnd did you use ,system info is like kinfo, ...i just want a one liner describing my pc , not all the fine details
[20:12] <BluesKaj> I promise not to display it here :)
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» its a konversation script...
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» "/sysinfo"
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» query me and run it
[20:16]  * DaSkreech wants to see BluesKaj's sysinfo :(
[20:17] <jackault> I'd like to see all the sysinfos. Maybe I'll see one lower spec than mine :(
[20:18] <BluesKaj> there ya go DaSkreech
[20:18] <DaSkreech> I have a pIII with 200 Megs of RAM
[20:18] <jackault> Ah, can't complain then :)
[20:18] <limbeaux> trying to get a remote desktop enabled so i can connect to my linux box from my windows box.  I have tried vncserver and am not haveing any success.
[20:18] <limbeaux> any suggestions
[20:19] <DaSkreech> !nx
[20:19] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[20:24] <idream> hi people
[20:25] <jussi01> hi
[20:26] <Arwen> "Note: At present FreeNX is limited to desktops where both local and remote machines are running Linux/Unix. Running FreeNX as server on Ubuntu with the free 'NX Client for Windows' from [WWW] NoMachine on a Windows workstation is working fine." <-- um, so is it cross-platform or not?
[20:27] <Arwen> stupid wiki pages...
[20:27] <limbeaux> that is on the ubuntu forums as well
[20:27] <limbeaux> i was hoping not to have to install an odd client as well
[20:28] <limbeaux> vnc was hopefull,  but I cannot get my windows client to connect to the linux box
[20:30] <rickest> limbeaux: were you using "linuxhost:1" for example?  You can't just use "linuxhost" to connect to a linux box's VNC
[20:30] <limbeaux> no
[20:30] <rickest> limbeaux: that's probably the problem. unlike windows, VNC on linux doesn't show the same desktop you see as the local user. It's a different X session running
[20:31] <BluesKaj> yeah, i had mine working , but did some thing on the windows box(wifey's) and now I can only access one way (linux to windows) , which is fine most of the time , but it would be nice for wife to be able fetch files from my linux box .
[20:31] <rickest> so they connect string must include the port to connect to which, by default, is ':1'
[20:31] <limbeaux> didn't know you had to use the display number
[20:32] <rickest> limbeaux: yes. the number you provide is actually addded to 5900 (VNC's default port), so ":1" means 5901
[20:32] <rickest> FWIW, FreeNX is imho far superior to VNC and I used VNC for yearzx
[20:34] <BluesKaj> bbiab...gotta go get the mail
[20:36] <Arwen> VNC is like shooting JPEGs down a tube...
[20:36] <ubuntu_> hello. i need to repair my system. i need to install some important packages to /. im running kubuntu from a livecd now.
[20:36] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: What's the problem ?
[20:36] <ubuntu_> how do I mount my hdd as / so i can install the packages there
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_» mount it and chroot into it
[20:37] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Mount it anywhere you want then chroot it
[20:38]  * MartinCleaver is installing from iso64 with lvm and is stuck on step 4 of 6
[20:38] <ubuntu_> ok now its mounted to /tsap. how do i chroot_
[20:38] <DaSkreech> sudo chroot /tsap
[20:38] <ubuntu_> it gives permission denied
[20:39] <limbeaux> it seems like i saw a java one where you could access it through a web page.
[20:39] <limbeaux> access a desktop
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_» "sudo chroot /tsap"
[20:39] <ubuntu_> sudo chroot /tsap gives permission denied
[20:39] <MartinCleaver> Hi. Install, Manual partitions says "You need to specify a partition for the root file system (mount point "/") with a minimum size of 2GB, and a swap partition of at least 256MB"
[20:40] <jackault> Is there some setting I can change so that konversation highlights the specified name on irc?
[20:40] <MartinCleaver> Once the partition is made and I select the root partition I get the error:
[20:40] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: How did you mount it?
[20:40] <MartinCleaver> No root fille system is defined. Please correct this frm the partitioning menu
[20:40] <ubuntu_> daskreech from system settings gui
[20:40] <BluesKaj> jackault: use the tabkey
[20:40] <limbeaux> i had to delete the partition and then add a new one. ONly then was i able to format and reinstall
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> jackault» unless its your's... no
[20:41] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Hmm I forget if that gives the right permissions
[20:41] <MartinCleaver> oh! Should I give it the mount point of /?
[20:41] <limbeaux> MartinCleaver you have to set a partition to "/"
[20:41] <MartinCleaver> got it! I was saying to mount it under /mnt
[20:41] <jackault> BluesKaj: Tab key? No I mean I want to highlight another name for *me*
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> :)
[20:42] <limbeaux> That graphical installer is such a pain that i downloaded the alternative and used the text installer.
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> jackault» might be a better question for #konversation
[20:43] <Crashed> I still can't get this damn TV tuner working in either Kubuntu or Windows.
[20:43] <ubuntu_> daskreech what permissions does it need and how do change to them_
[20:44] <jackault> kk got it, it was all 'highlight' with regexes and what not.
[20:44] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Unmount it and mount ffrom the command line
[20:44] <BluesKaj> you can setup Fonts in the configure / konverstaion to show nicknames in bold and in "colours "
[20:44] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: You know how to do that?
[20:44] <limbeaux> i never would have though that desktop sharing would be such a challenge
[20:44] <DaSkreech> limbeaux: always the stuff you don't expect
[20:44] <niklasv> anyone know of an alternate server for kubuntu hardy alpha? ie not cdimage.ubuntu.com
[20:45] <MartinCleaver> wow. My screen just blacked out during install.
[20:45] <MartinCleaver> Has it trashed?
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> !hardy
[20:45] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:45] <ubuntu_> daskreech im not sure about the permissions part
[20:46] <niklasv> ah ok sorry
[20:46] <limbeaux> krfb ( i think)  works like vnc on windows, it would be nice if you could make it a service and not have to click the accept button to allow access
[20:46] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/device /tsap -o umask=0022
[20:46] <DaSkreech> then sudo chroot /tsap
[20:46]  * MartinCleaver wonders whether the machine is installign
[20:46] <limbeaux> MartinCleaver  probably not,  mine did the same thing
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» totally?
[20:46] <MartinCleaver> should I be able to ctrl-alt-f2?
[20:46] <MartinCleaver> yes
[20:47] <limbeaux> MartinCleaver give it a minute to be sure
[20:47] <MartinCleaver> I was in the graphical installer, installing off a DVD
[20:47] <ubuntu_> daskreech where does the fs type go
[20:47] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Should auto detect
[20:47] <DaSkreech> Linux is a lot friendlier these days :)
[20:47] <MartinCleaver> mind you, when I booted off the DVD, at one point the login screen corrupted for maybe 5mins
[20:48] <limbeaux> yes
[20:48] <limbeaux> that has happened to me too
[20:48] <MartinCleaver> hmm. caps lock is not responding though
[20:48] <ubuntu_> daskreech it wont autodetect..... its ext3
[20:48] <MartinCleaver> DVD light is off
[20:48] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/device /tsap -o umask=0022 -t ext3
[20:49] <ubuntu_> daskreech still no go..
[20:49] <limbeaux> MartinCleaver:  i have had so many problems with that installer, i gave up on it.  It really is much simpler to use text install.
[20:50] <MartinCleaver> i just used the default
[20:50] <MartinCleaver> would have happily used the text one
[20:50] <Y-Town> anyone know of a gnome application that will allow you to use a control panel atmosphere more like KDE control panel?
[20:50] <limbeaux> funny thing is that i don't see the option on the "desktop" download.  I had to download the "Alternative"  version to get the text install
[20:50] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Are you sure you are using the right /dev ?
[20:50] <ubuntu_> yes
[20:51] <limbeaux> "text install" option
[20:51] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: What' the error?
[20:51] <Crashed> Can anyone help with a TV tuner issue? I can't seem to properly configure my pci tv card.
[20:51] <DaSkreech> !tv
[20:51] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[20:51]  * DaSkreech hides :)
[20:51] <Crashed> I have raped linuxtv.org to death :(
[20:52] <ubuntu_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[20:52] <MartinCleaver> how long should I leave this machine before resetting it?
[20:53] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: what device are you mounting ?
[20:53] <ubuntu_> my hdd partition
[20:54] <ubuntu_> detected as /dev/sda1
[20:54] <Y-Town> anyone know of a gnome application that will allow you to use a control panel atmosphere more like KDE control panel?
[20:54] <MartinCleaver> My monitor is implying that it is getting no signal
[20:54] <Arwen> Y-Town, gnome-control-center perhaps
[20:54] <MartinCleaver> dvd light is off
[20:54] <Arwen> or gconf-editor
[20:54] <Y-Town> Arwen: Thanks  I will take a look
[20:55] <MartinCleaver> hah, but the hard disk light is on, and I did tell it to format the disk
[20:56] <limbeaux> MartinCleaver 5 mins  or so.  kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso  is what i used to install because of error just like that
[20:56] <sd132> why do i have 2 incks?
[20:56] <sd132> *nicks
[20:56] <MartinCleaver> does this mean I have to download a whole new dvd? I'm installing for 64bit
[20:57] <BluesKaj> sd132: cuz you prolly din't exit the chat client the last time
[20:57]  * MartinCleaver is on his eeepc now
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» you can just reboot and install with the alternate installer.... it should be on the same DvD.
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» ahhh! I want!
[20:58] <sd132> BluesKaj: i did, i the second nick just showed up a few minutes ago and there both registered to me
[20:58] <Y-Town> Arwen: Thanks, Thats exactly what I was looking for.  I wonder why ubuintu doesnt put it in the settings list
[20:58] <MartinCleaver> how long might  a 12gb disk format take? I suspect that's the first action it is taking and would prefer to not interrupt it
[20:59] <MartinCleaver> disk light is on solid
[20:59] <Arwen> MartinCleaver, it ought to take seconds..
[20:59] <MartinCleaver> oh
[20:59] <MartinCleaver> in that case
[20:59] <sd132> it kicked me to my alt nick and stayed
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» if the disk light is on... its probably ok
[20:59] <BanTam> 80gb format took about a minute or 2 for me
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> waiting can'thurt I suppose
[20:59] <Arwen> unless you tried zeroing it...
[21:00] <MartinCleaver> 3:53 I started
[21:00] <Arwen> then that's 20s/GB
[21:00] <MartinCleaver> didn't do any zeroing
[21:00] <MartinCleaver> dvd light is still off
[21:00] <MartinCleaver> who votes to kill it?
[21:01] <BluesKaj> sd132: did you just register?
[21:01] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: Any idea why ubuntu_'s partition won't mount ?
[21:01] <crashed> Day 3/4 of trying to get this tv card to work.
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech» try mounting without a -t?
[21:02] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: Yeah it freaks
[21:02] <DaSkreech> that's why I addded the T
[21:02] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/device /tsap -o umask=0022 -t auto
[21:02] <ubuntu_> ok i got it not
[21:02] <ubuntu_> now
[21:02] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: :-P
[21:02] <sd132> BluesKaj: no, all of a sudden it said  my nic was already used and forced me to my secondary
[21:02] <DaSkreech> what did you do?
[21:03] <sd132> now its gone...wierd
[21:03] <sd132> it must be a hac
[21:03] <ubuntu_> sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /tsap
[21:03] <MartinCleaver> meh
[21:04] <MartinCleaver> nothing
[21:04] <Dakon> tackat: ping
[21:04] <ubuntu_> thanks daskreech
[21:04] <tackat> pong
[21:04] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: So why was it cursing about the file system ?
[21:04] <DaSkreech> hi tackat
[21:04] <MartinCleaver> reset
[21:04] <tackat> hi DaSkreech
[21:04] <Dakon> Cebit time ;)
[21:05] <tackat> hi Dakon
[21:05] <tackat> Dakon: did you have a look at the wiki?
[21:05] <Dakon> do it here or somewhere else?
[21:05] <Dakon> yes
[21:05] <ubuntu_> hey im the noob here
[21:05] <Limbeaux> i am also trying upgrade to kde4  all it said was to install kde4-core,  is there more to install?
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_» hehe...well good job :)
[21:05] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: ;)
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> Limbeaux» you can install "kde4" and that will give you everything
[21:06] <Limbeaux> ahh ok.
[21:06] <MartinCleaver> ok. I don't seem to be able to control that dvd boot menu
[21:06] <MartinCleaver> cursors don't work
[21:07] <MartinCleaver> I have 2 usb keyboards
[21:07] <MartinCleaver> the one I use mostly  is bluetooth, but the other is hardwired
[21:08]  * MartinCleaver boots without bt kbd
[21:09] <MartinCleaver> nope. didn't like that
[21:09] <ubuntu_> ok. another one. if i have a cd and internet sources as repositories, will apt-get or adept prefer the cd repo first even if the version numbers are lower_)_!@#$%^&(`1234567890---=-+__))(~}{P}{O:L":
[21:10] <ubuntu_> whoops sorry
[21:10] <stdin> it will choose the CD only if the version on the CD is the same or higher than the one in the online repo
[21:10] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: how's kubuntu-kde4-desktop ?
[21:10]  * MartinCleaver curses
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech» whats that?
[21:11] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: CD first then internet. If the version numbers are the same
[21:11] <DaSkreech> In general that's what you want
[21:11] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_: open your sources.list and type # in front of the cd deb and save the file, if you dan't want the cd tobe a source
[21:11] <MartinCleaver> once the dvd boots can I use the text installer once kde starts?
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_» erase the CD from the sources.list
[21:11] <MartinCleaver> keyboards worked fine from within
[21:11] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: I'm assuming that we have a KDE and a kubuntu-desktop
[21:11] <ubuntu_> i want to use only the cd even with lower versions
[21:11] <DaSkreech> so we probably have a KDE4 and akubuntu-kde4-desktop
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech» not sure how its working in hardy
[21:12] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Then erase the internet
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> but that sounds logical
[21:12] <DaSkreech> I should really jump to hardy next week
[21:13] <ubuntu_> where was sources.list again
[21:13] <DaSkreech>  /etc/apt
[21:14]  * MartinCleaver ponders
[21:14] <crashed> :(
[21:15] <DaSkreech> crashed: tried #ubuntustudio ?
[21:15] <crashed> Have not.
[21:15] <MartinCleaver> once the dvd boots can I use the text installer once kde starts?
[21:16] <MartinCleaver> I ask because from the boot menu the kbd is ignored
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» no
[21:18] <MartinCleaver> ugh
[21:18] <MartinCleaver> are usb kbds generally not okay?
[21:18] <weswh-> i can never remember how to empty the trash can...
[21:19] <weswh-> (or, how to get to it. heh)
[21:19] <MartinCleaver> maybe it matters which usb socket ?
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» hum, I heave heard of problems with them
[21:19]  * MartinCleaver grasps for straws
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> weswh-» its in .local/share/trash
[21:21] <weswh-> just go in there and delete it all?
[21:21] <weswh-> in the past i've had a trash can icon on the desktop or somewhere...but not since i installed feisty, i don't think
[21:21] <tin> you can add a trach applet to kicker
[21:21] <tin> or trash:// in konq iirc
[21:22] <stdin> weswh-: go to trash:/ in konqueror or dolphin
[21:22] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=99960 ^_^ ^_^
[21:22] <stdin> you can create a link to URL on the desktop and set the location to trash:/ if you want
[21:23]  * nosrednaekim looks
[21:24]  * MartinCleaver wonders might it work if I use an adapter and the ps2 socket?
[21:24] <BanTam> would i need a different ver of ndiswrapper for 64 bit?
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> BanTam» probably.... more importantly,you would need a 64 bit windows driver
[21:25] <BanTam> i have those already
[21:26] <kackvogel> hi
[21:26]  * MartinCleaver tries it
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> !info ndiswrapper
[21:27] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» that SHOULD work....
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> !ndiswrapper-common
[21:27] <BanTam> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> !info ndiswrapper-common
[21:27] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-common (source: ndiswrapper): Common scripts required to use the utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.43-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 104 kB
[21:27] <MartinCleaver> yes, it did
[21:27] <MartinCleaver> ok, so I want "Install in text mode"?
[21:27] <DFlame> hullo folks, what can you recommend for streaming audio to a shoutcast server?
[21:28] <MartinCleaver> my bios sees my wireless kbd, I don't see why ubuntu should have been fussy about it
[21:28] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech» nice article
[21:28] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» yup
[21:28] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» its GRUB...
[21:28] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: Should keep a list of things that need to be looked at
[21:28]  * MartinCleaver boots
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> ya
[21:29] <MartinCleaver> seems happier
[21:29] <MartinCleaver> thansk
[21:29] <MartinCleaver> thanks, even
[21:29] <ubuntu__> jhhhhh]
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> BanTam» looks to me that ndiswrapper(the driver) nwo comes with the kernel image...
[21:30] <gijilos> geia se olous
[21:30] <BluesKaj> BBL , gonna reboot my old router
[21:30] <gijilos> exw ena provlima eimai neos sto linux
[21:31] <stdin> !gr
[21:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[21:31] <gijilos> exw to kubuntu
[21:31] <gijilos> kai den mporw na vrw kapoio messenger
[21:31] <gijilos> gia na mepenw sto msn messenger
[21:31] <gijilos> mipws mporei kapoion na me voi8isei ?
[21:31] <stdin> !gr | gijilos
[21:31] <ubotu> gijilos: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[21:31] <crashed> Why did I have to uninstall kubuntu? :(
[21:34] <Limbeaux> hmm i keep getting forbidden when trying to install kde4.
[21:35] <dan__> What do most of you prefer: KDE or Gnome?  I have tried both and still a little unsure which I will go with
[21:35] <jpatrick> dan__: I prefer KDE
[21:36] <dan__> jpatrick: do t=you run ubuntu with kde loaded or just kubuntu?
[21:36] <DaSkreech> dan__: Wrong chan to ask that
[21:36] <jpatrick> dan__: just Kubuntu
[21:36] <jetsaredim> i accidentally fat-fingered a chmod command and 777'd / on my server - is there any way to get out of this without reinstalling?
[21:37] <dan__> DaSkreech: Just looking for a senses...
[21:37] <DaSkreech> dan__: really use the one you feel more comfortable/productive in
[21:37] <stdin> if you ask in #kubuntu, you're going to get the answer "kde"
[21:38]  * DaSkreech whispers That means KDE to dan__ ;-D
[21:38] <dan__> :o)
[21:38] <jetsaredim> is there a default root password?
[21:38] <DaSkreech> dan__: What you can do is stuff that bugs you about either environment ask about it in the respective chans.
[21:38] <stdin> !root | jetsaredim
[21:38] <ubotu> jetsaredim: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> !root
[21:39]  * stdin wins
[21:39] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: ooooollldd :)
[21:39]  * nosrednaekim has lag....
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> this show me hitting it before you ;)
[21:39] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah I hate that
[21:39] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: admit it, we faster than me
[21:39] <jpatrick> you*
[21:40] <MartinCleaver> can lvms only contain one primary partition?
[21:40] <jetsaredim> stdin: did you not see my comment about chmod -R 777 /??
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> we faster than me?.....schitzophrenia is a terrible thing my freind(s)
[21:40] <jetsaredim> I can't get sudo to work since its not setuid root
[21:40] <MartinCleaver> or one partition, period?
[21:40] <DaSkreech> dan__: #kubuntu will help you get over KDE annoyances and #ubuntu will help you get over Gnome annoyances
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim» you're going to need to chroot in from a liveCD
[21:41] <stdin> jetsaredim: well you'll have to try booting into recovery mode then and fix manually
[21:41] <DaSkreech> If you have something you can't get around then you can start to make choices based on how much either side will rub you the wrong way
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> dan__» and if you ask for help with your GNOPME annoyances here, we are going to say "GNOME IS an annoyance.. switch to KDE"
[21:41] <jetsaredim> stdin: sounds like i should just reinstall
[21:41] <MartinCleaver> I have an LV and I was going to make 2 partiions in it, one for tmp, the other for root/
[21:41] <weswh-> does anyone know much about vmware server? the official support listed on their site doesn't sound perfect...but I've heard good things about just using apt-get install vmware-server...
[21:41] <weswh-> running feisty - should i look at an alternate package?
[21:41] <stdin> jetsaredim: if you did chmod recursively, then it may be easier (after a backup)
[21:42] <MartinCleaver> weswh-: I installed vmware server easily on a centos box
[21:42] <MartinCleaver> I think I just used a package
[21:42] <MartinCleaver> worked like a charm
[21:42] <DaSkreech> dan__: Having said all that how can we convince you that KDE is the one and only choice for you to get married to?
[21:42] <weswh-> mmhmm. just wondering if the official repo for is the way to go
[21:42] <dan__> It has only been 10 years since I been on IRC.. so needles to say..
[21:42] <MartinCleaver> I have an LV and I was going to make 2 partiions in it, one for tmp, the other for root/ - it seems to let me only create one partition, and then calls the rest of the space unusable.
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> wedding! I love weddings! drinks all around!
[21:43] <weswh-> dan__: welcome back?
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> weswh-» if it has the latest version, yes... of not, no :)
[21:43] <dan__> DaSkreech: Im torn... I generally like KDE better....
[21:43] <weswh-> nosrednaekim: yeah I am a bit of a newbie when it comes to apt still. to look at the exact version of what will be installed, what's the syntax?
[21:43] <DaSkreech> \o/
[21:44] <MartinCleaver> why does it call the rest unusable? the graphical one didn't have this constraint.
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> weswh-» apt-cache policy vmware-server
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> dan__» do you use more kde apps,or more GNOME/gtk apps?
[21:45] <MartinCleaver> I suppose I'm not going to get an answer
[21:45] <dan__> DaSkreech: I just got back on linux after ten years as well.... Atleast I found the right distro to start with
[21:45] <DaSkreech> dan__: The Kommunity here is great
[21:45] <weswh-> now this is a very basic question...but, when I do an 'update' and fetch list of updates etc, am I getting the latest apt list refreshed and stuff?
[21:45] <DaSkreech> MartinCleaver: Did you read the LVM docs?
[21:45] <Arwen> am I the only one that thinks Kubuntu's default panel laout is ugly?
[21:45] <Arwen> huh
[21:45] <weswh-> or is it like BSD, where I need to 'update ports'
[21:46] <DaSkreech> weswh-: It goes to the server and updates the list of what is available and what version it is
[21:46] <dan__> nosrednaekim: kde.... but from what I seen gnome has a couple that are nice too
[21:46] <DaSkreech> Arwen: highly doubtful
[21:46]  * MartinCleaver has been battling with http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem#comment-906
[21:46] <DaSkreech> MartinCleaver: this is with the alternateCD?
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> weswh-» no.... you only need to run that one command.
[21:46] <dan__> nosrednaekim: Remote desktop in gnome I found to be far superior
[21:47] <MartinCleaver> no, its with the text installer, it included an LVM option
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> weswh-» its not like ports/gentoo where you have to relink dependednies and such (I think thats what that does)
[21:47] <MartinCleaver> It sees the LVs no problem
[21:47] <weswh-> DaSkreech: so ubuntu does everything from the server with regard to apt...in real time? and only falls back to something if you've told it you aren't using internet etc.
[21:47] <DaSkreech> dan__: tried krdc ?
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> dan__» tryed krdc?
[21:47] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: oooolld :)
[21:47] <DaSkreech> Lag sucks
[21:47] <weswh-> that's very slick...i hate managing the ports tree in BSD. i mean, it's interesting from a standpoint that I in theory know what is there...but I could always roll back to something older if I needed to
[21:47] <MartinCleaver> it just doesn't let me create a second partition inside an LV. This could be by design, that would make sense I suppose
[21:47] <dan__> DaSkreech: Yep.... dont like it
[21:47] <jpatrick> !lag | nosrednaekim
[21:47] <ubotu> nosrednaekim: You have lag, I don't have lag
[21:47] <weswh-> much nicer that things are just called up as needed
[21:48] <nosrednaekim> haha... I know... youtube sucks too much bandwidth
[21:48] <MartinCleaver> had it not been that the graphical installer let me do it I would not be trying now
[21:48]  * MartinCleaver wonders whether to care about separating /tmp from /
[21:49] <dan__> DaSkreech: Terminal Server Client was great and very fast for me to log into my server
[21:49] <MartinCleaver> ok. well I'll just put it together I guess. Didn't hurt last time.
[21:50] <DaSkreech> MartinCleaver: Server?
[21:50] <DaSkreech> dan__: Well you can install that in KDE no issues
[21:50] <MartinCleaver> yes, but lightly loaded for now
[21:50] <MartinCleaver> more of a desktop really
[21:50] <MartinCleaver> I use vmware and run servers on it too
[21:51] <DaSkreech> MartinCleaver: no I meant a heavy server
[21:51] <MartinCleaver> so, no. Desktop.
[21:51] <DaSkreech> that's when you would start optimizing where /tmp is on the disk etc
[21:51] <BluesKaj> youtube is merely a curiosity to me, but it's great for testing flash on browsers  :P
[21:51] <dan__> DaSkreech: thats more than likely what I will do... I have it now.
[21:51] <DaSkreech> other wise /tmp with / is fine
[21:51] <MartinCleaver> ok. all in one will be fine
[21:51] <MartinCleaver> thanks DaSkreech
[21:51]  * MartinCleaver is now formatting
[21:53] <dan__> DaSkreech: I have both KDE and Gnome loaded on ubunt.  One my playing around and evaluating ends I will probably use the apps I like in both gnome and KDE using the KDE
[21:54] <DaSkreech> dan__: hoorah! drinks for nosrednaekim :)
[21:55] <david__> how to I enable the software package for' nvidia-glx-new'  ?
[21:55] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech» you know where that is from?
[21:55] <david__> appearanty this is what is blocking me from enabling 3d support
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> david__» use the restricted-manager-kde
[21:56] <david__> I did, that is what is giving me this error
[21:57] <sd32> does anybody know of a online virus scanner that works with linux?(so i dont have  to deal with installing clamwin)
[21:57] <weswh-> ok so I just went through this azureus update process...and it created a new startup script for me. fair enough...so I renamed it to what my old one was, simply 'azureus'. When I used to run that file...it ran the script and launched the app
[21:57] <weswh-> now it is opening in Kate...what's the difference? (clicking through konquerer)
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> david__» what error?
[21:58] <weswh-> ok there's something i don't get for sure. the old script...which is now named azureus.old - still launches the app...
[21:59] <bascule> file extensions mean nothing in linux
[21:59] <stdin> make sure it's executable
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> weswh-» did you make it executable
[22:00] <david__> "The software source for the package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled."
[22:00] <weswh-> wonderful...thanks guys.
[22:00] <weswh-> didn't intend to learn anything this afternoon :P
[22:00] <david__> how do I do that?
[22:00] <bluszcz> hello
[22:01] <not|root> Hi. Where can I learn more about enabling suspend-to-RAM and suspend-to-disk on kubuntu?
[22:01] <bluszcz> i've got weird problem after upgrade to 3.5.9
[22:01] <bluszcz> my kdesktop doesn't show my $HOME/Desktop but /
[22:01] <bluszcz> WTF?
[22:02] <stdin> david__: make sure you have "proprietary drivers for devices" enabled from adept (Adept -> Manage Repositories)
[22:02] <jhutchins_wk> bluszcz: Have you rebooted?
[22:02] <david__> ah ok
[22:03] <sd32> im leary of 3.5.9 because of the lack of support for it
[22:04] <bluszcz> jhutchins_wk: yes
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» yeah.... I know where that setting is.
[22:05] <david__> great thanks
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» hum.. I knowing tis in kcontrol SOMEWHERE
[22:07] <row> Anyone using network manager in the hardy kde4 alpha release here, can't get it to start here
[22:07] <row> rather odd
[22:07] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: ?
[22:07] <stdin> row: tried starting it manually?
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» there is a setting somehwere for what your DESKTOP dir actually is
[22:07] <row> stdin yeah via command line and via run dialog
[22:07] <row> nothing happens
[22:07] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: really?
[22:08] <row> no errors nothing
[22:08] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: where? :D
[22:08]  * row checks syslog
[22:08] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» i'm looking...
[22:08] <row> ah it works
[22:08] <row> it is loaded
[22:08] <row> but can't get config up
[22:09]  * row needs to set up ndiswrapper stuff
[22:09] <row> click manual config and nothing happens
[22:09] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» sorry, can't find it.....
[22:09] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: i've just found it!
[22:09] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» where?
[22:10]  * row does via cli
[22:10] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: Administration/Paths
[22:10] <bluszcz> i've changed it into $HOME/Desktop
[22:10] <bluszcz> but it doesn'nt work
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> awesome
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> yep.. thats ot :)
[22:11] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: still the same :/
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» you gotta at least log out
[22:13] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: :(
[22:13] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: i kill kdesktop and run again
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» why not lgo tou
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> *log out
[22:14] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: i logout
[22:14] <bluszcz> the same
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» odd
[22:15] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: odd?
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» thats always fixed it from what I have seen
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» if you changed that setting back to ~/Desktop
[22:17] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: :/
[22:23] <miladen> Hey, when my computer starts up it shows the screens "mode not supported" screen so i cant see my bios or anything... what do i do?
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> miladen» you can't even see the BIOS?
[22:24] <miladen> i cant see the bios but as soon as the kubuntu interface starts it shows everything fine
[22:25] <hola> my webcam is not recognized by ubuntu
[22:26] <trappist> miladen: if your monitor can't display your bios (never heard of that one before) you might try asking in #hardware - ubuntu's not loaded at that point
[22:26] <bluszcz> nosrednaekim: which option in kdesktoprc sets it>?>
[22:26] <olie> stdin
[22:26] <stdin> olie
[22:26] <arcticpenguin380> is reiserfs journalled?
[22:27] <trappist> arcticpenguin380: yes
[22:27] <arcticpenguin380> then why do i always get corrupted trees then?
[22:27] <trappist> arcticpenguin380: that is, the metadata is journaled.  not sure if you can enable data journaling.
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> bluszcz» doesn't seem to be one in there.
[22:28] <trappist> arcticpenguin380: good question, that's why I quit using reiserfs :)  also you could have a hardware problem on your drive
[22:28] <arcticpenguin380> !metadata
[22:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metadata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:29] <arcticpenguin380> i know what metadata is but what is filesystem metadata?
[22:29] <rickest> arcticpenguin380: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReiserFS#Criticism
[22:30] <trappist> arcticpenguin380: metadata journaling is like, before it commits an action it logs "about to do this", then it does it, then it logs that it was done.  so when you reboot, if there's an "about to do this" log without a "done" log, it executes the transaction.
[22:31] <panzi> hi
[22:31] <trappist> rickest: nice link
[22:32] <panzi> the kubuntu repositories seem to be broken!
[22:32] <panzi> all .deb files have a size of 0 bytes when you download them
[22:32] <stdin> which one, there are many mirrors
[22:32] <gshie> a few days ago i installed KDE using the kubuntu-desktop (and other packages). For several days, it would just stop when it it got to 'initializing system services' when launching KDE but today it decided to work for some reason. I looked it up on the docs and a lot of people seem to have had this problem...... does anybody here know about that?
[22:32] <arcticpenguin380> oh well i will go to JFS then
[22:32] <panzi> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357 feisty main
[22:32] <trappist> arcticpenguin380: I'm pretty happy with ext3 now
[22:33] <panzi> if there are mirrors, where can I find a list?
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> !langpack | gshie
[22:33] <ubotu> gshie: A recent update broke some KDE language packs, leaving the user unable to login. (http://launchpad.net/bugs/195647) This has now been fixed and an updated package is in the -updates repo. If you removed the packages with the interim fix you can reinstall them with: << sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-en-base >>
[22:33] <trappist> arcticpenguin380: I tried xfs for a while, but grub hates it if /boot is on xfs
[22:33] <panzi> actually it seems to be all under http://packages/*
[22:33] <gshie> ubotu: thanks!
[22:33] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[22:35] <stdin> panzi: I think it's being removed due to lack of use, why not upgrade to gutsy anyway?
[22:35] <panzi> damn
[22:35] <panzi> I cant
[22:35] <panzi> well not yet
[22:35] <panzi> I have no time for an big system update
[22:35] <panzi> gah, I should have downloaded all the packages before they removed it
[22:35] <stdin> it's been out for months, hardy will be out soon
[22:36] <panzi> but I didnt had time!
[22:36] <panzi> damnit, thouse half year release cycles are far to short
[22:36] <panzi> i have time to update in summer break
[22:36] <stdin> you haven't found time in nearly 5 months?
[22:36] <panzi> I update once a year!
[22:37] <panzi> yeas
[22:37] <panzi> yes
[22:37] <stdin> well, start planning an hour or two, it's not an interactive process after it starts so you just need to check on it every 10-15 mins
[22:37] <panzi> because its tedious
[22:38] <trappist> stdin: it does get interactive when it finds modified config files
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> tedious? its one command.... but do do back ups :)
[22:38] <panzi> it's not an hour. i have installed a lot on my system which is not provided by ubuntu and therefore this all will stop to work when the system is updated.
[22:38] <stdin> it should ask those all in one go, when pre-configuring
[22:39] <panzi> therefore its more easy when I install the system from scratch
[22:39] <trappist> panzi: that's why you stick with the package manager :) or put stuff like that on its own partition
[22:39] <panzi> and that takes twao days at least
[22:39] <trappist> stdin: I didn't have any such luck on my gutsy upgrade
[22:39] <panzi> LOTS of stuff is just not available in the pkg mngr
[22:40] <panzi> like updated thunderbird (security updates)
[22:40] <stdin> security updates are always available
[22:40] <stdin> if not file a bug
[22:40] <panzi> or netbeans nightlieys (because of mercurial plugin and ws bpel etc.)
[22:40] <trappist> panzi: I try to keep distro-independent stuff in /opt, on its own partition
[22:41] <panzi> and then amarok is never up to date
[22:41] <gshie> is it just me, or is ubotu amazing?
[22:41] <panzi> and I had big problems with one amarok version (couldnt play most of my files) so I had to compile it myself
[22:41] <panzi> gshie: its just you. its a distro like every other
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[22:42] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[22:42] <trappist> panzi: a stable distro isn't going to give you new versions of software just because a new version's available.  you can find backports repos and 3rd party repos for updates to individual packages you like.  it's a lot better than building from source, especially when it comes time to upgrade the distro.
[22:42] <crashed> Hey guys, is there a way to revert changes I made to some configuration files?
[22:42] <crashed> I edited a few things and I don't remember what I edited anymore.
[22:42] <trappist> crashed: sure, just restore from backup!
[22:42] <crashed> Backup!?
[22:42] <crashed> I just installed Kubuntu. :(
[22:42] <trappist> I knew it.
[22:43] <stdin> crashed: sometimes it will save a backup with a ~ extention
[22:43] <nosrednaekim> crashed» probably not if you closed them
[22:43] <crashed> Looks like I'll have to reinstall this again.
[22:43] <trappist> crashed: try, sudo apt-get remove --purge package; sudo apt-get install package
[22:43] <crashed> Running Edgy here.
[22:43] <trappist> crashed: --purge gets rid of config files
[22:43] <crashed> It says it couldn't find package package.
[22:44] <gshie> panzi: i mean ubotu the bot here... i can't tell if its a bot or a person
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> crashed» why don't you order a gutsy CD from shipit?
[22:44] <gshie> panzi: it passes the turing test
[22:44] <crashed> How much is it?
[22:44] <trappist> crashed: not "package"... the package you want to reinstall.
[22:44] <panzi> gshie: ic
[22:44] <crashed> Oh!
[22:44] <crashed> Well, I edited some system files I believe.
[22:44] <trappist> crashed: you don't remember what files?
[22:44] <crashed> No sir.
[22:44] <gshie> panzi: also... panzi... is your name mandarin?
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> !gutsy
[22:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> crashed» free!
[22:45] <crashed> All I remember was modules.conf, not sure what else I edited. I was trying to get my tv tuner to work.
[22:45] <trappist> crashed: kinda hard to help you there
[22:45] <crashed> kmix crashes when I try running it now.
[22:45] <panzi> gshie: no. austrian. its short for Panzenböck, my last name. Panzenböck hast celtic roots
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> crashed» shipit is free... but shipping can take a little while
[22:45] <crashed> How long's a little while?
[22:46] <stdin> crashed: few weeks on average
[22:46] <crashed> Well, might as well order it now anyway.
[22:46] <gshie> panzi: oh i see
[22:46] <panzi> gshie: and you speak it "german": the "a" like the "a" in are and the z like "ts"
[22:46] <crashed> shipit.org, shipit.com?
[22:46] <jussi01> !shipit
[22:46] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> !shipit
[22:46] <crashed> Ah wait, I'll be moving in a few weeks too. Probably shouldn't order it just yet.
[22:46] <gshie> panzi: ich verstehe
[22:47] <trappist> crashed: maybe you know somebody with a fat pipe and a cd burner?
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> and a blank CD
[22:47] <trappist> and a sharpie
[22:47] <jussi01> lol
[22:47] <gshie> ubotu: what are you?
[22:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what are you? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:48] <crashed> $13 for Kubuntu?
[22:48] <stdin> !bot > gshie
[22:48] <MartinCleaver> thanks all, kubuntu is happily installed now
[22:48] <jussi01> :D
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» awwzome
[22:49] <crashed> http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=710624
[22:49] <crashed> Someone posted something 3 minutes ago and got 9 replies and 240 views.
[22:49] <crashed> I posted 7 minutes ago and I only have my own view.
[22:49] <crashed> :[
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> crashed» it all depends on how easy it is.
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> and how common
[22:51] <MartinCleaver> OMG. my screen just blacked!
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> crashed» I suppose you could order the kubuntu cd, from somewhere, they are usually fairly cheap
[22:51] <MartinCleaver> I was in the process of detecting a USB printer
[22:51] <trappist> MartinCleaver: try your shift key
[22:51]  * MartinCleaver taps it
[22:52] <MartinCleaver> nowt
[22:52] <stdin> gshie: I am
[22:52] <MartinCleaver> nothing with ctrl-alt-1/7
[22:52] <crashed> $4 shipping + $1 charge, yeah not bad but it'd only take me two or so hours to download 7.10 and $0.10 for a CD-R.
[22:52] <MartinCleaver> nothing with mouse
[22:52] <trappist> MartinCleaver: power cable?
[22:52] <trappist> is the machine running?
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> crashed» haha... then do that!... gutsy is so much better
[22:52] <trappist> keyboard lights flashing?
[22:52] <gshie> !bot
[22:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» ssh?
[22:53] <panzi> gah, does anyone know a sitll working package mirror for feisty?
[22:53] <stdin> panzi: only the official repos
[22:53] <MartinCleaver> no route to host
[22:53] <MartinCleaver> might be a firewall on it though?
[22:53] <MartinCleaver> default?
[22:54] <MartinCleaver> dest unreachable for ping
[22:54] <crashed> I'll see you guys later.
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» ah.. you probably need to install the ssh server
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> oh wow...
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> c ya crashed
[22:54]  * MartinCleaver is not happy
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» that really went down hard.
[22:55] <trappist> panzi: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CRAN/
[22:55] <MartinCleaver> lights are still on
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» is something overheating possibly?
[22:55] <MartinCleaver> worked fine under centos
[22:55] <trappist> panzi: err, http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CRAN/bin/linux/ubuntu/feisty/
[22:55] <panzi> trappist: thanks
[22:55] <trappist> MartinCleaver: sounds dead to me.  reboot?
[22:56] <Artimus> Anyone get to mess with the Ubuntu Brainstorm site?  Slashdot killed it before I could try it.
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» what graphics card?
[22:56] <panzi> trappist: erm, that seems not to be a kubuntu repo (no kde packages there)
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» yeah..I took a look
[22:57] <MartinCleaver> xfx 7600 i think
[22:57] <MartinCleaver> nvidia
[22:57] <trappist> panzi: yeah I'm starting to realize it's not what I thought it was...
[22:57] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: This is basically Digg with Ubuntu Wishlist Bugs, isn't it?
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» use tuxmachines for "slashdot before slashdot spashdotts it"
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» yeah
[22:57] <panzi> trappist: that are only R packages
[22:57] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Not a bad idea.  Might be easier than Launchpad for newer users.  That's probably who should be making requests anyway.
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> yup... there were some good ideas on it
[22:59] <MartinCleaver> ok. i have to go.
[22:59] <MartinCleaver> thanks guys :(
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> MartinCleaver» sorry..
[22:59] <trappist> panzi: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+pub+feisty+index
[22:59] <Artimus> I've been working on KDE4 programming.  I think the best way to get ideas of what needs to be done is to ask new users.  I set a friend of mine up with Kubuntu.  I've been trying to make notes of things that caused troubles for him.
[23:01] <MartinCleaver> not your fault :|
[23:01] <MartinCleaver> ok. later
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» ya... not many kde problems on there
[23:03] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: There's a few I'd like to add.  I'd like the System Services Editor to be fixed.  It lags.  Adept needs to be fixed.  I'm not sure I like synaptic much better, though...
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» adept is getting re-worked for kde4
[23:04] <panzi> ok, in 3 weeks when I'll buy a new PC I'll switch to fedora again, I think
[23:04] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Yes, but aren't we using KDE3 Adept until Intrepeid?
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» probably.
[23:05] <panzi> good by
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> bye panzi
[23:09] <BluesKaj> heh, panzi, will be sorry :)
[23:09] <david__> I just installed a 56k modem in my linux machine what do I do now? I havent used dial up in over 10 years
[23:10] <david__> (I am selling this pc and am setting it up for someone)
[23:10] <david__> I would hate to look like an idiot
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> !dialup
[23:10] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[23:10] <david__> sweet thanks
[23:11] <Arwen> david__, is it a real modem? :-p
[23:13] <vers> why wont my computer recognize my external hard drive?
[23:13] <vers> im frustrated
[23:15] <vers> can anyone offer any help?
[23:22] <Artimus> vers: Unplug it and plug it back in?  I've had drives that wouldn't always recognize right away
[23:37] <mrunagi> does fdisk -l require sudo?
[23:38] <mrunagi> yes
[23:38] <mrunagi> lol
[23:39] <sd32> wow, the shoutcast servers are down
[23:40] <Artimus> sd32: Tried lastfm?
[23:41] <sd32> Artimus: yeah, but not as much variety
[23:41] <sd32> plus i keeploosing the password
[23:43] <sd32> plus i dont like scrobbling
[23:43] <Artimus> Fair enough
[23:43] <sd32> :-)
[23:43] <pedro> hi can anyone tell me tha packege for nevidia graphic cards
[23:43] <pedro> ??
[23:43] <sd32> i like songza
[23:44] <pedro> i have a 8800gt wolf edition
[23:44] <pedro> hi
[23:47] <sd32> the shoutcast outage is putting the kybosh on amarok
[23:51] <lupul> hi everyone. is there any other program like compiz-fusion? but to use less resources
[23:52] <SlimeyPete> lupul: KDE4 has some compiz-style stuff built in. Not sure how well it works though (it won't work on my laptop but then compiz doesn't work that well either)
[23:54] <mrunagi> does hardy have a live cd?
[23:54] <pushax> what's the cli for kernel version?
[23:54] <SlimeyPete> pushax: uname -a
[23:54] <pushax> SlimeyPete: thx
[23:54] <pedro> guys i need to know what is the nvidia driver
[23:55] <sd32> which one?
[23:55] <mrunagi> !hardy
[23:55] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:55] <SlimeyPete> pedro: the package for the "official" driver is called nvidia-glx, but the recommended way of installing is via the Restricted Drivers Manager
[23:55] <SlimeyPete> (nvidia-glx-legacy for old drivers I think)
[23:56] <pedro> ok thnaks :)
[23:56] <mrunagi> i have yet to get an answer so far lol
[23:57] <sd32> !patience
[23:57] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:58] <pedro> guys why i can't run wine on hardy
[23:58] <pedro> ??