[11:14] <Ziroda1> @schedule Singapore
[11:14] <ubotu> Schedule for Asia/Singapore: 28 Feb 22:00: Desktop Team | 29 Feb 20:00: MOTU | 05 Mar 15:00: Platform Team | 08 Mar 19:00: Kubuntu Developers
[13:57]  * mvo waves
[13:57] <seb128> hey mvo
[13:57] <lool> mvo: Did you get well back home?
[13:58] <mvo> lool: I'm still in london
[13:58] <mvo> hey seb128
[13:58] <lool> Oh right, returning tonight only I guess
[13:58] <mvo> yes, later today
[13:58] <lool> Good trip to you then
[13:59] <Riddell> hi
[13:59] <pedro_> hello!
[14:02] <Keybuk> just waiting for pitti
[14:03] <Keybuk> tedg: you made it! :)
[14:03] <MacSlow> greetings tedg
[14:03] <MacSlow> tedg, at the airport? :)
[14:04]  * mpt rubs his eyes
[14:04] <MacSlow> hi mpt
[14:04] <tedg> No, I got in about 6 hours ago.
[14:05] <tedg> For some reason my wireless router missed me, and decided to be angry and not let me on this morning :(
[14:05] <kwwii> it missed you
[14:05] <Keybuk> Martin is attempting to fix his network
[14:05] <Keybuk> and will be with us shortly
[14:06] <Keybuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2008-02-28
[14:06] <Keybuk> aha, well done
[14:06] <Keybuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2008-02-28
[14:06] <pitti> hrmpf, sorry; *$#$ network
[14:06] <Keybuk> I put together the lack of agenda
[14:06] <Keybuk> so this should be a nice short meeting
[14:07] <lool> pitti: Be happy that *you* have Internet at home *cough*  ;)
[14:07] <MacSlow> hey pitti
[14:07] <MacSlow> hey lool
[14:07] <pitti> lool: often, at least :)
[14:08] <Keybuk> As you almost all certainly know, Loïc will be leaving us and taking on the challenge of filling Mithrandir's shoes as technical lead of the Mobile Team
[14:08]  * mvo waves goodbye to lool
[14:08] <Keybuk> he'll be still dabbling in desktop work for the remainder of the release, of course; and whenever he wants
[14:08]  * lool waves -- we'll still work together!
[14:09] <MacSlow> lool, wow... I thought you were meant to become full member of the desktop team
[14:09] <Keybuk> we'll therefore shortly have an open position to fill Loïc's shoes
[14:09]  * pitti hugs lool, thanks for your desktop work so far; it was greatly appreciated
[14:09] <lool> MacSlow: You're a packager now, you can replace me :)
[14:10]  * MacSlow dies a painfull horrible death
[14:10] <Keybuk> I've mentioned this before in most of our catch-up calls, but if you know of anybody with good GNOME maintenance, packaging, bug triage/fixing, etc. experience then please do recommend them to me
[14:10] <Keybuk> lool: but then I'd have to replace him, and nobody's quite as insane with the bling :)
[14:11] <pitti> . o O { sjoerd }
[14:11] <Keybuk> I didn't see any agenda items in the summaries this week
[14:11]  * MacSlow prefers to stay with computer-grapihcs and  UI
[14:11] <Keybuk> pitti: e-mail :p
[14:11] <Keybuk> (me)
[14:11] <tedg> I'm all about GL based packaging tool: gldch -i
[14:11] <Keybuk> did I miss any agenda items?
[14:11] <MacSlow> tedg, we can talk about that :)
[14:12] <Keybuk> apparently not :)
[14:12] <Keybuk> I didn't see anything added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReportingPage either <g>
[14:12] <MacSlow> kwwii just burped like a devil
[14:12] <pitti> no bling stuff this week, just boring bug fixes
[14:12] <Keybuk> does anyone have any accomplishments from the past week they'd like to shout about
[14:12] <lool> Only borring stuff happened
[14:13] <pitti>  * make Ubuntu work a bit better
[14:13] <MacSlow> pitti, sorry.. doing packaging training (thanks mvo) and compiz-integration
[14:13] <Keybuk> ok
[14:13] <Keybuk> any thing from the activity reports people want to discuss?
[14:14]  * MacSlow raises hand
[14:14] <MacSlow> hardy-desktop-effects-profiles is slacking a bit due to package-training.
[14:14] <seb128> GNOME has been updated to 2.21.92, I think I would write that
[14:15] <Keybuk> seb128: that would be good to add
[14:15] <seb128> and I've a svn gvfs snapshot with basic obex and ftp support on my disk
[14:15] <MacSlow> and next week is CeBIT (off-time) and after that gtk+ hackweek... so I'll have to finish the profiles stuff inbetween somehow *argx*
[14:15] <Keybuk> seb128: has Christian gotten started on things as well?
[14:15] <kwwii> we have a new gtk theme as well
[14:15] <Keybuk> kwwii: that should be added too :)
[14:15] <seb128> Keybuk: yes, he's actively working on webdav which seems to start working correctly now
[14:17] <Keybuk> ok, cool
[14:17] <Keybuk> any other business?
[14:17] <seb128> hardy is slooooow, but that's not really a meeting thing ;-)
[14:17] <Keybuk> slow?
[14:18] <seb128> 2 min from grub to desktop on my new dell laptop which is sloooow
[14:18] <mvo> io fells slower, but that is very subjective
[14:18] <pitti> boot is really fast, but gnome session start is sloooow
[14:18] <kwwii> sometime let me know when it is safe to upgrade from gutsy to hardy please
[14:18] <seb128> pitti: lucky you
[14:18] <Keybuk> interesting
[14:18] <kwwii> s/sometime/someone
[14:18] <mvo> boot is not fast for me
[14:18] <mvo> kwwii: do it!
[14:18] <seb128> pitti: it takes around 35 seconds to get the usplash bar to start moving there
[14:18] <pitti> gnome session startup is more than 1:30 minutes
[14:18] <kwwii> mvo: as long as you will offer free telephone support :-)
[14:18] <seb128> the detecting hardware steps seems to take ages
[14:18] <Keybuk> seb128: could you install bootchart and throw one onto ubuntu-devel ?
[14:18] <Keybuk> also udev.log I guess if it's that stage
[14:18] <seb128> Keybuk: will do
[14:18] <MacSlow> kwwii, yeah... you coward... update now!
[14:19] <Keybuk> seb128: that'll encourage others to join in, and we'll get an idea whether it is or not
[14:20] <Keybuk> ok, let's keep the meeting short then
[14:20] <Keybuk> thanks everybody
[14:20] <seb128> http://www.kagou.fr/boot.jpg
[14:20] <seb128> speaking about speed
[14:21] <seb128> I was speaking with kagou which was testing random distros
[14:21] <seb128> the blue bars are grub to gdm, the red ones gdm to desktop
[14:21] <Keybuk> hardy hasn't had readahead updated yet, so it's not surprising it's slow
[14:22] <Keybuk> and apparmor is a piece of shit
[14:22] <Keybuk> . o O { did I just say that out loud? }
[14:22] <MacSlow> for me only starting compiz takes its time
[14:23] <MacSlow> everything else is quite fast
[14:23] <Hobbsee> Keybuk: in a logged channel :)
[14:24] <pitti> so, thanks everyone
[14:25] <seb128> thanks
[14:25] <MacSlow> Hobbsee, everybody has his/her dare-devil-moments :)
[14:25] <Keybuk> --done--
[14:26]  * mvo waves
[14:26] <MacSlow> ok so long