ubotuNew bug: #196318 in xorg (main) "small screens end up only allowing small external display resolutions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19631800:41
ubotuNew bug: #194929 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "hardy alpha5, i810 fuzzy/choppy problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19492900:44
ubotuNew bug: #196349 in xserver-xorg-video-unichrome (universe) "xserver-xorg-video-unichrome broken in hardy." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19634903:20
tjaaltonhmm, i965 doesn't start a session with vesa.. x-window-manager/compiz gets stuck09:39
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tjaaltonbryce: what's your opinion about vmmouse? the current method of using vmmouse_detect doesn't work, and just defaulting to it instead would fall back to mouse when the (driver internal) check fails09:43
tjaaltonmvo: what do you think of bug 67996, you said that /usr/X11R6/bin could be moved aside instead of failing the upgrade?10:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 67996 in xorg "x11-common preinst script fails (was: aborts /usr/X11R6/bin not empty)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6799610:01
tjaaltonhm, my session doesn't work with intel either10:07
Ngmy laptop just suspended and on resume X was broken and green :(10:12
jcristausome suspend/resume problems on intel are fixed in .25-rc310:13
Ngtesting it again and I saw the same green screen flash right after it powered up, but then it was redrawn with the proper X stuff10:20
tjaaltonthe current kernel in hardy has the drm bits backported10:20
tjaaltonbut maybe rc3 has more10:21
mvotjaalton: yes, I think it is wrong to fail here, I think what it should do is to warn the user via debconf about it but then move /usr/X11R6/bin to /usr/X11R6/bin.move_on_upgrade or something like this10:23
tjaaltonmvo: ok, I'll change it and modify the message too10:24
mvotjaalton: great, thanks10:25
jcristauare there that many problems left with that?  i don't remember many reports of broken upgrade after etch release10:26
tjaaltonjcristau: shouldn't be, but..10:26
tjaaltonthere was at least a broken opera10:27
tjaaltonthis change can go right after hardy is released10:27
jcristaunot from a deb then?10:27
tjaaltonyes, official opera deb10:27
tjaaltonupstream crap :)10:27
jcristaux11-common conflicts with opera10:28
tjaaltonwell, that was an example.. don't know if there are others10:28
tjaaltonmaybe I should just ask10:28
Ngmvo: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482354 was the firefox/wm thing I mentioned10:34
ubotuGnome bug 482354 in general "gtk_window_present() causes full applications to move workspaces" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 10:34
Ngand a simple testcase for the weird borderless bug doesn't expose it, so maybe I have a bug ;(10:34
* mvo checks10:39
jcristautjaalton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/67996/comments/13 eg has nothing to do with that bug afaics10:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 67996 in xorg "x11-common preinst script fails (was: aborts /usr/X11R6/bin not empty)" [High,Incomplete] 10:49
jcristauand the rest of the failure reports are old10:50
tjaaltonyeah, era is complaining about xli10:54
tjaaltonI'll hold off that change for now and upload what I have now10:55
ubotuNew bug: #196560 in xorg (main) "[gutsy] X crash (low graphics mode) when logging out and in several times consecutively" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19656013:40
tjaaltonjcristau: yep, you were right.. era didn't have the problem anymore, so I closed it. thanks for the push ;)14:31
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bdmurrayWasn't nvidia-glx-config removed recently?17:04
mario_limonciellbryce, are you around momentarily?17:19
brycehi mario_limonciell17:29
mario_limonciellhey bryce17:30
mario_limonciellhad a few questions regarding how fn-f8 was "supposed" to be handled on intel cards17:30
mario_limonciellis acpid supposed to be catching the events for them, or all within the intel video driver?17:31
jcristauthe driver doesn't deal with that afaik17:32
jcristauprobably a bios thing17:32
brycemario_limonciell: in theory acpi should be handling it all17:35
mario_limonciellbryce, so in the event that /var/log/acpid isn't showing any of these events being caught, who to start pointing fingers at likely?17:36
brycewell, I wouldn't point fingers, but mjg59 is the best guy to answer questions about it17:37
brycesometimes the issue goes down as far as the kernel17:38
mario_limonciellokay, well on this morning's call, rtg had mentioned to poke you on it first17:38
mario_limonciellwell let me put it this way though - it seems that something gets intercepted by the keypress. FN-F8 issues a whole bunch of events to xev, but nothing with the randr change on the displays17:39
mario_limonciellwhich was why I was thinking to point it at xserver-xorg-video-intel17:40
brycehang on, I have a bug report about this...17:40
jcristaumario_limonciell: the driver shouldn't be involved in this at all. if you get a keypress event, then you can configure your desktop env to act on it17:42
mario_limonciellno keypress event is caught, let me get a pastebin showing you what events actually are caught by xev17:42
jcristau(seems to send XF86Display here)17:43
brycebug #144225, #13356817:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 144225 in xrandr "Fn + F8 doesn't work on Dell Inspiron 6400 to switch display to another monitor" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14422517:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 133568 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "fn+f8 (crt/lcd switch) does nothing" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13356817:45
jcristauhmm. maybe i'm wrong. the driver seems to listen to acpi stuff17:45
bryceboth of those are misfiled; it's not xrandr and like jcristau it's not a video driver thing17:45
mario_limonciellthey're also dated back some time - as i'd imagine behavior has changed on hardy17:46
bryceyeah could be17:47
brycethat latter one seems to not be about it not working, but not working they way they expect17:48
brycehmm, it sounds like we need something better than just mapping to xrandr --auto17:52
mario_limonciellwell but in this case, xrandr --auto isn't even being called 17:52
bryceit needs to be a toggle type thing that switches between that and xrandr --output FOO --off17:52
bryceyeah, I'm just saying in general ;-)17:52
mario_limonciellyeah, i'll agree there, but that framework for querying the driver other than xrandr | grep BLAH would probably be nicer to have first before that17:53
mario_limonciellwell for now i'll mark the bug with xserver-xorg-video-intel pending more information17:55
ubotuNew bug: #196176 in dell "FN-F8 doesn't switch displays on M1330" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19617618:05
mario_limonciellwell it would appear that after a lot of presses an XF86Display key is caught by xev, but X doesn't react on that keyevent18:07
jcristaumario_limonciell: X *sends* the key event18:46
jcristauso that you can do whatever you want client-side with it18:46
mario_limoncielljcristau, well I think i've narrowed it down further.  gnome-settings-daemon is crashing18:47
mario_limonciellat when FN-F8 is pressed18:47
jcristauah :)18:48
mario_limonciellso perhaps it wasn't ported to xrandr 1.218:48
mario_limoncielloff to CVS to look around :)18:48
mario_limoncielltoo bad apport doesn't catch it though18:49
asactjaalton: hey. i have "enemy territory QW" and it plays fine with -generic fglrx, but i get rendering errors + worse: quick system crashes when using -rt. any idea?20:04
tjaaltonasac: hmm, sorry no idea.. maybe abogani might know, he should be the -rt master20:11
mario_limonciellwhew okay after tracking that all down, here's my update on it - g-s-d doesn't support switching displays (yet).  2.24 is the target20:16
mario_limonciellthat crash that i was encountering is indeed a bug with g-s-d 20:16
bryceahh interesting20:16
mario_limonciellso perhaps we need a more local fix until 2.2420:16
brycemario_limonciell: do we have those bugs in launchpad against gsd?20:17
mario_limonciellbryce, i just got them an unoptimized backtrace upstream20:17
mario_limonciellat bugs.gnome.org20:17
mario_limoncielli'll link a launchpad bug once i find the most appropriate one20:17
brycegreat, thanks20:17
mario_limonciellso for a more local fix, i'd propose just binding fn-f8 to xrandr --auto20:17
mario_limonciellat least until it's properly implemented upstream20:18
brycehmm, I thought we already had fn+f8 bound to xrandr --auto though?20:20
brycehi seb12820:24
mario_limonciellmaybe at one point20:24
mario_limonciellbut i'm not sure where that would sit now20:24
bryceyeah me either20:24
mario_limoncielldo you know when the last time that was present?20:24
brycemario_limonciell: seb128 or mjg59 might know the details20:24
mario_limonciellseb128, well if you are aware, do you know if/when/how fn+f8 was bound to xrandr --auto?20:25
brycemario_limonciell: I am fairly certain it was there in gutsy; I've seen bug reports referring to side effects when it's hit20:25
seb128mario_limonciell: it's a gnome-control-center shortcut, I think it was dropped in hardy on the way and I will add it back when I do the next gnome-control-center upload20:26
seb128hey bryce20:27
mario_limonciellseb128, ah that would make more sense then :)20:27
brycemario_limonciell: btw I have another mythtv question20:27
mario_limonciellgo ahead shoot20:27
brycemario_limonciell: I installed mythfrontend on one of my laptops (which I use for a variety of things, and just sometimes mythtv), but now on each boot it's prompting me for mythtv settings, and then autologging me into mythtv20:28
bryceso I guess a two parter question20:28
brycea) how do I get it to not prompt for the same info, and b) how do I turn off the auto-loging?20:28
bryceoh, if it matters, the front end is Hardy, the back end Gutsy20:29
mario_limonciellbryce, likely gnome is starting it up20:30
mario_limoncieller wait20:30
mario_limonciellits autologging from gdm?20:30
mario_limonciellremove the package ubuntu-mythtv-frontend20:30
mario_limonciellit creates that autologin session.  perhaps its worthwhile ditching that package to avoid confusion20:31
brycemaybe it's just a gdm setting?  *poking around*20:32
mario_limonciellwell that package provides an override gdm config20:32
mario_limonciellso yes in a sense it is a gdm setting20:32
bryceaha, there's flags in /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf for automatic and timed logins20:32
bryceawesome, thanks20:33
mario_limonciellif you aren't using the autlogin feature, just remove the package20:33
mario_limonciellthat's the only useful thing it provides :)20:33
bryceoh interesting20:33
bryceit sounds so official ;-)20:33
mario_limonciellyeah hence why i think i should just nuke the package from debian/control20:34
mario_limonciellit causes confusion :)20:34
brycebtw, I checked through your mythbuntu.org site last night - great work on it, lots of really useful info :-)20:37
brycefinally I learned how to shut off the screensaver ;-)20:38
mario_limonciellthanks :)20:43
mario_limonciellugh upstream nailed the bug -20:43
mario_limonciellits because of one of our gsd patches20:43
mario_limonciellseb128, 19_extra_keybindings.patch shouldn't be present20:44
mario_limonciellits not complete20:44
mario_limonciellor at least it should be modifying a little bit mroe20:44
seb128mario_limonciell: ?20:46
mario_limonciellseb128, gnome bug 51863720:46
ubotuGnome bug 518637 in plugins "crash in media keys on resume?" [Critical,Resolved: notgnome] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51863720:47
mario_limonciellthat was caused by 19_extra_keybindings20:47
mario_limonciellbecause of not having a callback to the XRANDR key20:47
seb128mario_limonciell: right, as said I'll fix the xrandr thing in the next upload20:48
mario_limonciellseb128, okay just wanted to point out its in gsd not gnome-control-center then20:49
seb128mario_limonciell: thanks20:49
mario_limonciellare you aware of where the changes need to be made?  I can summarize what i've discovered here in the last 2 hours in a bug to save you some trouble if you'd like20:49
seb128I think using what we had in gutsy should do the trick20:50
seb128mario_limonciell: no?20:53
mario_limonciellseb128,  i'm not aware of exactly what was in that patch.  the necessary change is pretty small to 19_extra_keybindings.  give me a few minutes and i'll test what i believe is necessary, and then pastebin it.  should hopefully solve things20:54
seb128mario_limonciell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5119/20:56
seb128mario_limonciell: so basically the schemas and the code case20:57
mario_limonciellseb128, it's very similar to that yes.  i just tested it and it works20:57
seb128very similar? what is wrong in the version I copied?20:57
mario_limonciellexecute() is no longer used20:57
seb128ok, will adapt to the current code style20:58
seb128but that's the idea, right?20:58
mario_limonciellyeah.  i've got the patch together.  don't worry about it.  i'll track down the bugs and put together a debdiff20:58
mario_limoncielli've been tracking this down the better part of the afternoon, it will feel good to have fixed it :)20:59
seb128what patch?20:59
seb128I'm about to do the upload with that change and a svn fix, should I wait on something elsE?20:59
mario_limonciellto update 19_extra_keybindings20:59
seb128no need to bother21:00
mario_limonciellokay, well here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5120/  21:00
mario_limonciellthat's the current syntax +                execute (manager, "xrandr --auto", FALSE, FALSE);21:01
seb128mario_limonciell: is there a bug on launchpad?21:02
mario_limonciellbug 17944421:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 179444 in gnome-control-center "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17944421:02
seb128mario_limonciell: can you attach the patch there?21:03
seb128I'll use your version since you worked on it that's fair I think ;-)21:03
seb128feel free to ping before starting working next time21:03
seb128somebody pointed this one some times ago and I knew what to change21:03
mario_limonciellwell i didn't realize it'd be this involved, but yeah next time i will :)21:03
seb128mario_limonciell: gsd update uploaded, thanks21:19
mario_limonciellthanks a bunch21:34
seb128thank you for looking in the issue21:42
seb128to the issue21:42
seb128rather ;-)21:42
ubotuNew bug: #196802 in xserver-xorg-video-unichrome (universe) "Unichrome setup problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19680223:55

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