[00:00] <JakeConklin> is there a central repository search tool that i could use to search for a package and it will give me what repository i have to add in order to get it?
[00:00] <bod_> sn00zer, recursive is usually a    -r   parameter
[00:00] <hischild> david_, as far as i know, you can reuse your /home partition without formatting it, and it will keep your documents over a new installation.
[00:00] <bizzeh> so, is anyone actualy going to answer me? why doesnt ubuntu let me use my monitor in full, and why does the installer crash on grub install?
[00:00] <sn00zer> bod_, i checked dd --help and it didn't list -r as a valid switch, i'll try it tho
[00:00] <genius> larson9999: do you use hibernate? is it stable in ubuntu?
[00:00] <_Oz_> bizzeh: please tell me the issue you have again in full.
[00:00] <hischild> bod_, you agree? (switching x64 to x86 -> keep your /home)
[00:00] <prince_jammys> sn00zer: why not cp?
[00:01] <_Oz_> Question: I have a dual-boot setup (WinXP and Ubuntu).  I have an NTFS HD mounted (called "I: 151GB") and I have to type in an administrative password every time I access it, which I don't like.  How can I make it so that I can simply browse that volume without needing a password?
[00:01] <ph0rensic> Devourer, wow that was fast .. yah it makes sense there would be a different library for win
[00:01] <david_> hischild: I want to change the partition, take some memory away from //home and give it to //
[00:01] <s3a> were do i get WinFF and QDVDAuthor
[00:01] <mzuverink> prince_jammys, the settings are in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[00:01] <hischild> david_, aah i see
[00:01] <prince_jammys> mzuverink: nice, thanks
[00:01] <smokan> avis so i should remove this: in source.list "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted" right?
[00:01] <wyattc> Ah! I just realized what it is! I'm pretty sure I've broken my group settings
[00:01] <david_> hischild so ok thanks for your help i will try k3b
[00:01] <avis> smokan, you can put a # in front of it
[00:01] <bod_> hischild, i no not what that means
[00:01] <smokan> okey :)
[00:01] <avis> smokan, that will comment it out
[00:02] <bod_> sn00zer, check the man page aswell
[00:02] <hischild> david_, in that case i would suggest to create a new partition, dump your /home on that, then resize your partition to a more suitable size, dump your home back, then reinstall
[00:02] <bizzeh> _Oz_: first put ubuntu install cd in, wouldnt let me pick my full res (1680x1050), would only let me use 1400x1050, then i had to apt-get fglrx for it to even show a gui at all... now i have waited for nearly a hour for this thing to install, and it has crashed at grub install
[00:02] <mzuverink> prince_jammys, at least you can hand edit it there
[00:02] <wyattc> While Installing SVN I had to make a few new groups and users and things, and I altered my own membership
[00:02] <prince_jammys> mzuverink: good enough for me
[00:02] <_Oz_> bizzeh: hardware specs, please?
[00:02] <Flughafen> what software do you recommend for a tuner card?
[00:02] <Devourer> ph0rensic, if you are interested here is the link on how... http://live.gnome.org/Cross%20compiling%20GTK%2B%20for%20Win32
[00:02] <hischild> bod_, awesome news! install succesfull (i just logged in)
[00:02] <osmosis> i downloaded nltk_lite , and python setup.py install  fails with the error "please install the python-tk package".  Why in gods name would I install a gui toolkit package on my head less server ?
[00:02] <ph0rensic> Devourer, Ill have a looksie
[00:02] <hischild> bod_, nvm:p
[00:02] <larson9999> genius, i don't use it or even try anymore.  never seems to work when i try.
[00:03] <hischild> bod_, on that one you didnt understand
[00:03] <ph0rensic> prince_jammys, You guys find anything on that annoying tan start deal?
[00:03] <_Oz_> bizzeh: also, are you using a 7.10 LiveCD?
[00:03] <bod_> hischild, cool,. now after updates try swithching gcards and installing restricted drivers,.,.
[00:03] <bizzeh> AMD64 x2 6000+, 4gb corsair xms2, ATI HD3870 512mb, gigabyte gz-ga69g-s3h mobo, 3 250gb sata drives, and 1 400gb sata drive
[00:03] <bizzeh> yes, i am using a 7.10 live cd
[00:03] <hischild> bod_, first a clea bootup :p (oh yeah , you probably already assumed i was on a laptop right? :P
[00:03] <_Oz_> bizzeh: if it didn't present you with a GUI out of the gates, perhaps you installed the server version?
[00:03] <larson9999> genius, i figure someday i'll see an ars technica that says, "hibernation finally works in linux!"  then i'll care again
[00:03] <prince_jammys> ph0rensic: yeah mzuverink found the config file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[00:04] <bod_> hischild, no, i though you were on a desktop machine
[00:04] <endo> What does everyone think of 'Preload'?
[00:04] <beautifulsnow> Hibernation? Never heard of Save Session? :P
[00:04] <hischild> bod_, no i'm using a laptop for irc and stuff ... and the truoble was on my desktop
[00:04] <bizzeh> _Oz_: no, definatly a desktop version
[00:04] <bizzeh> it tried to start up X, then just didnt
[00:04] <bod_> hischild, oh yer,.,. tbh it never crossed my mind how you were doing that,.,.lol
[00:04] <Flughafen> does anyone here use a TV tuner card?
[00:04] <_Oz_> bizzeh:  it should only take about 25 mins to install.
[00:04] <hischild> bod_, rly? most ask :P
[00:05] <_Oz_> bizzeh: do you have any USB devices connected when you installed?
[00:05] <iter> Flughafen: hauppauge pvr 150
[00:05] <bod_> hischild, no point ,.,. you seemed to be doing both without trouble,.,.;~)
[00:05] <bizzeh> _Oz_: well i have been sat at grub-install for about 15 mins now
[00:05] <Flughafen> iter, what software do you use for it in ubuntu?
[00:05] <ph0rensic> prince_jammys, sweet
[00:05] <iter> Flughafen: mythtv works great
[00:05] <_Oz_> bizzeh: are there any other OS' installed previously?
[00:05] <bizzeh> yes, my monitor has a built in 60in1 card reader and a 4 slot usb hub, thats connected
[00:05] <hischild> bod_, well my laptop was just as troublesome as my desktop is now ... had to recompile basically everything for it ...
[00:06] <bizzeh> vista is on the same drive, but i have had no problems in the past doing this stuff
[00:06] <_Oz_> bizzeh: what's connected to the 4-port USB hub?
[00:06] <knix> hello, Im not really sure what happened but gnome is missing now, and I cant get it back
[00:06] <bizzeh> _Oz_: bluetooth dongle
[00:06] <hischild> bod_, but that's fixed :D
[00:06] <_Oz_> bizzeh: disconnect that
[00:06] <knix> gnome is not even showing up on the select session
[00:06] <bod_> hischild, ive installed on old & new desktop machines and laptops ,.,. the only issue ive had is i cant install with gcards on the desktops and the laptop needed a text installer
[00:06] <_Oz_> bizzeh: then run the livecd install again
[00:06] <_Oz_> bizzeh: disconnect everything you don't absolutely need right now
[00:06] <ph0rensic> prince_jammys, you know what line it is on?
[00:06] <theron> I'm running an ubuntu asterisk server.  I'm using firehol for iptables, however the server seems really sluggish, but nothing is showing in top that would be bogging this server down.  any ideas what to check to see why it's seemingly sluggish?
[00:07] <arrrghhh> so
[00:07] <bizzeh> run the install again? and sit through the hour again?
[00:07] <bizzeh> not worth it
[00:07] <bizzeh> sorry, but no
[00:07] <_Oz_> bizzeh: it won't take an hour
[00:07] <bizzeh> is there anything important done after grub-install ?
[00:07] <arrrghhh> my title bars are disappearing... and "metacity --replace" fixes it.  what's the underlying problem here?
[00:07] <prince_jammys> ph0rensic: i don't the line number, but look for Backgroundcolor=
[00:07] <_Oz_> bizzeh: it's taking an hour because it's getting hung up on one of your USB devices, more than likely
[00:07] <prince_jammys> ph0rensic: *know
[00:07] <hischild> bod_, sounds like fun!
[00:07] <_Oz_> bizzeh: I'd also install with a different monitor, if you have one laying around to use instead
[00:07] <Brassmonkey> yo
[00:08] <bod_> hischild, what does?
[00:08] <eduardo> hello, If I've changed my /etc/hosts ...I must restart my computer or I can restart in other way...?
[00:08] <bizzeh> _Oz_: the same usb devices that are there when vista takes 13 mins to install? the same monitor, the same everything? the same one that allowed me to install pc-bsd in 15 mins?
[00:08] <Brassmonkey> can we cuss or spam?
[00:08] <bod_> bizzeh, if you dont like the answers dont ask the question
[00:08] <_Oz_> bizzeh: do you want a fast and simple solution to your problem or do you want to fight it tooth and nail?
[00:08] <bod_> !etiquette | bizzeh
[00:08] <ubotu> bizzeh: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[00:09] <hischild> bod_, your installing of desktops and laptops
[00:09] <puff> Dangit.
[00:09] <bizzeh> i wanted a linux install that was supposed to be quick and easy, that got me a linux box to test these cross-compiles on... i can install gentoo faster and easier than ubuntu
[00:09] <bod_> hischild, well, its alot more fun then installing windows,.,.it takes a matter of minutes rather than hours with my sata drive ;~)
[00:09] <bajaboy>  Is the orinoco driver compatible with a WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES] encrypted network?
[00:09] <mad_max02> is there anyone that can help me with my ext3 question ????
[00:09] <_Oz_> bizzeh: okay, then do that...  ubuntu installs faster and with less problems for me than Vista by the way...
[00:09] <hischild> bod_, good point there ...
[00:09] <larson9999> bizzeh, which channel do i usually see you in?
[00:10] <bod_> bizzeh, go on then
[00:10] <bizzeh> larson9999: xbmc or reactos
[00:10] <larson9999> bizzeh, reactos.
[00:10] <emma> mad_max02,  ask the question and let's ee.
[00:10] <puff> Ever since I upgraded my thinkpad t43p from feisty to gutsy, my system has been unstable as heck.  It just froze up;  screen showed my windows, etc, but mouse and pointer didn't work, ctrl-alt-shift-f1 didn't work, ctrl-alt-backspace didn't work, ctrl-alt-del didn't work, finally had to hold the power button down and reboot.
[00:10] <mad_max02> I did like 10 times
[00:10] <bod_> hischild, sata drive instal windows = 1 hour + ,.,.sata drive install ubuntu <20 mins
[00:10] <emma> I didn' see it.
[00:10] <bizzeh> _Oz_: vista is a matter of mins for me to install, i started this ubuntu install at 5 mins to 11, its now 10 past 12
[00:10] <larson9999> puff, you have nvidia too?
[00:11] <bizzeh> this isnt easy, or problem free
[00:11] <mad_max02> I installed a new hdd in my box and formated it with ext3. its shows in gparted that there is 3.5gb used space and in nautilus it shows about 10gb used space. Where did this free space go ????
[00:11] <hischild> bod_, over here it's like about 2 to 3 hours to get windows fully up and running ... 4 hours if you include updates
[00:11] <wyattc> Is there any way to reset group and user memberships to defaults?
[00:11] <Pinkyy> where i can find someone that is really god with mirc and help me fix my script?
[00:11] <bizzeh> the installer hasnt even noticed that its crashed
[00:11] <larson9999> bizzeh, well, it's more trouble free than install ing ros on real hardware :)
[00:11] <bizzeh> its just sat there
[00:11] <_Oz_> bizzeh: that's odd, vista usually takes for-frickin'-ever for me to install.  but that's neither here nor there.  would you like me to continue assisting me or would you rather stop this process?
[00:11] <s3a> is QDVDAuthor sudo apt-getable?
[00:11] <Brassmonkey> !ban
[00:11] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable !behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable !behaviour is please see !Etiquette and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines - If you think the ban was a mistake, please join #ubuntu-ops
[00:11] <hischild> bod_, for ubuntu make that < hour
[00:11] <Brassmonkey> !quit
[00:11] <bajaboy>  Is the orinoco driver compatible with a WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES] encrypted network?
[00:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:11] <Brassmonkey> ggggg
[00:12] <Brassmonkey> g
[00:12] <Brassmonkey> g
[00:12] <Brassmonkey> g
[00:12] <Brassmonkey> g
[00:12] <Brassmonkey> g
[00:12] <bod_> bizzeh, then your very unique,.,.vista being the largest (therfore longest) install of the windows series means you must have an extremely high tech machine to install in minutes,.,. .
[00:12] <Brassmonkey> g
[00:12] <bod_> !ops
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[00:12] <Brassmonkey> g
[00:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Pinkyy: mirc on ubuntu? and asking help on a linux channel... why?
[00:12] <bizzeh> _Oz_: is there anything important done after grub-install?
[00:12] <larson9999> bizzeh, what's the problem you're having?
[00:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Brassmonkey: dont do that!
[00:12] <mad_max02> ANYONE ???
[00:12] <bizzeh> bod_: vista is large, but installs faster than any other windows os, since its an image based install, no small file copying
[00:12] <_Oz_> bizzeh: I've been there, in that aggravating mental state that you're in now, many times.  All I can say is, there's a pretty easy way out, if you'll just accept the solution and not worry too much about whether it fits your version of what's right or not.
[00:12] <_Oz_> bizzeh: not sure.  If you want to interrupt the install, go ahad.
[00:12] <_Oz_> ahead.
[00:12] <Amaranth> bizzeh: So same as Ubuntu and OS X then :P
[00:13] <bancai> what should i do so that i dont have to type modprobe ipw2200 rtap_iface=1 everytime my box restarts?
[00:13] <mad_max02> I'm getting desperate here can anyone answer my question ???
[00:13] <_Oz_> bizzeh: it should only take 15-20 minutes so it's obviously hung up.
[00:13] <bajaboy>  Is the orinoco driver compatible with a WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES] encrypted network?
[00:13] <yo> hey i need some help with networking and file sharing in ubuntu. how do I set it up?
[00:13] <bizzeh> brb
[00:13] <_Oz_> yo: on a windows network?
[00:13] <yo> windows->ubuntu
[00:13] <bod_> bizzeh, so use windows,.,. #ubuntu   doesnt see vast amounts of people having install problems,.,.and when we do, its almost always due to a) a bad iso b) hardware problems,.,. bothe at the user end ,.nothing wrong with the sofftware
[00:13] <prince_jammys> !samba | yo
[00:13] <ubotu> yo: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[00:14] <bajaboy>  Is the orinoco driver compatible with a WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES] encrypted network?
[00:14] <Pirate_Hunter> bizzeh: after grub there is only booting into the system unless you're doing soemthing out of the ordinary i.e. installing home somewhere else etc
[00:14] <_Oz_> yo: http://www.europe.eclipse.co.uk/Ubuntu/Ubuntu-on-win-network.htm
[00:14] <Pirate_Hunter> mad_max02: ask the question and be patient than repeat again if you get no reply
[00:14] <Amaranth> bancai: edit /etc/modprobe.d/options and add a line that says "options ipw2200 rtap_iface=1"
[00:14] <mad_max02> I installed a new hdd in my box and formated it with ext3. its shows in gparted that there is 3.5gb used space and in nautilus it shows about 10gb used space. Where did this free space go ????
[00:14] <Amaranth> bancai: then it should automatically add that option when loading the driver at boot time
[00:14] <hischild> bod_,  you know the U.S.E.R error? and the P.E.B.S.A.C fault?
[00:14] <bod_> hischild, nope
[00:14] <theron> mad_max02: what is the physical size of the disk
[00:15] <Pirate_Hunter> yo: install smaba for file sharing with windows machine, hope thats what you asked
[00:15] <mad_max02> 500GB
[00:15] <hischild> bod_, say the first one out loud ... as a word
[00:15] <bancai> Amaranth, ok, thanks, btw why do you know such stuff? where can i learn about such thing? for example to know that options is for such thing
[00:15] <bod_> hischild, user error ,.,.got that one
[00:15] <mad_max02> and other one is 200GB with similar symptoms
[00:15] <theron> do a pastebin of a df -h showing the drive please
[00:15] <bajaboy>  Is the orinoco driver compatible with a WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES] encrypted network?
[00:15] <Amaranth> bancai: I have no idea, I just picked stuff up as I went, been at this for quite some time now :)
[00:15] <hischild> bod_, Problem Exists Between Screen And Chair .....
[00:15] <puff> larson9999: Rage ATI.
[00:16] <bod_> hischild, BRILLIANT,.,.love it
[00:16] <Ubuntuisbest101> i am a IT guy
[00:16] <hischild> bod_, heard those 2 last night <3 they're great ... wait i got a great movie for you!
[00:16] <Amaranth> hischild: Actually that one is PEBKAC - Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair
[00:16] <bod_> Ubuntuisbest101, good for you
[00:16] <bancai> Amaranth, if today i ask such thing, i will forget it next year if i want to set it again, so i have to ask again, would be nice if i can bookmark a site which tell this thing
[00:16] <Amaranth> hischild: But it's not nice to say
[00:16] <Ubuntuisbest101> who needs help?
[00:16] <hischild> Amaranth, only as a joke :-)
[00:16] <iter> Amaranth: hischild I prefer the ID-10T error
[00:16] <Amaranth> bancai: I don't know of such a site, I just pick stuff up as I read forums and fix my own problems
[00:17] <hischild> iter, yup ... another great one ...
[00:17] <Pirate_Hunter> Ubuntuisbest101: lol
[00:17] <bajaboy>  Is the orinoco driver compatible with a WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES] encrypted network?
[00:17] <mad_max02> theron, http://www.pastebin.org/21609
[00:17] <Amaranth> bajaboy: That depends on if the orinoco hardware supports it
[00:17] <hischild> Amaranth, the only reason why i would ever use such a thing is when speaking to someone who knows the meaning ... and in this context ... you have to admit ... it's funny :p
[00:17] <bod_> iter, could you elaborate on    ID-10T error    please
[00:17] <iter> bod_: IDIOT
[00:17] <hischild> bod_, ID-10T --> leet speak --> .......
[00:18] <bajaboy> Amaranth:ok..
[00:18] <Ubuntuisbest101> my computer is tipeing stuff i am not!!!!!!
[00:18] <bod_> iter, hischild, oh yer,.,.duh,.,.cheers,.,.im a bit slow tonight
[00:18] <hischild> bod_, no probz :-)
[00:18] <_Oz_> Ubuntuisbest101: very strange
[00:18] <bod_> Ubuntuisbest101, stop it now!
[00:18] <n2diy> How can I restart my sound server? I've lost system sounds, and CD's don't play? Sound Juicer reports it can't find the server. And Audacity reports an i/o error.
[00:18] <_Oz_> Ubuntuisbest101: is anyone getting their hands on your keyboard?
[00:18] <billenium> I have no CD drive and no USB drive, how can i install ubuntu?
[00:18] <mad_max02> theron, last one /dev/sdc1
[00:19] <Jordan_U> !install | billenium
[00:19] <mad_max02> theron, its missing 10gb
[00:19] <ubotu> billenium: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:19] <_Oz_> n2diy: yeah, I've had more sound problems than anything else in ubuntu...  for some reason this is a common problem.
[00:19] <magnetron> !install | billenium
[00:19] <Pirate_Hunter> billenium: i doubt you can
[00:19] <danand> n2diy - sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[00:19] <yo> for some reason i can share thru wireless, but not thru LAN
[00:19] <yo> why?
[00:19] <yo> for some reason i can share thru wireless, but not thru LAN
[00:19] <yo> why?
[00:19] <hischild> _Oz_, my biggest problem was my graphics :p
[00:19] <n2diy> _Oz_: Sound was working fine as of Monday.
[00:19] <bod_> billenium, theoreticcaly i suppose you could use floopy's,.,.like in the old days
[00:19] <mneptok> !repeat | yo
[00:19] <bajaboy> billenium- I had the same problem as you
[00:19] <ubotu> yo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:19] <fragmede> install to a hard drive, then swap the drive into the sysetm
[00:19] <AtticStorm> All, where can I get a patch/fix to use 4-gig of RAM in 7.10 32-bit?  Thanks.
[00:19] <Pirate_Hunter> billenium: guess im mistaken
[00:19] <_Oz_> n2diy: that happens to me too.  sound works fine one day, not the next.
[00:19] <yo> anyone?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> AtticStorm, Install the server kernel
[00:19] <bajaboy> what fragmede said works the best
[00:19] <hischild> !anyone | yo
[00:20] <ubotu> yo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:20] <prince_jammys> mm no now he will ask again
[00:20] <mneptok> yo: be patient
[00:20] <yo> sorry.. i got disconnected temporarily and it messed up
[00:20] <mad_max02> theron, I cant send you pm
[00:20] <mad_max02> theron, I'm not registered atm
[00:21] <bod_> !register | mad_max02
[00:21] <ubotu> mad_max02: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[00:21] <yo> but anyways.. why can't i share thru a LAN cable? but i can through wireless?
[00:21] <bod_> !gq | yo
[00:21] <ubotu> yo: Please be aware your question fails to put the point across and could easily be misunderstood. Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'good' question. Cheers!
[00:22] <danand> yo - do you have your interface configured correctly? what about firewall? are you using firestarter?
[00:22] <Pirate_Hunter> bod_: was that really needed couldnt you ask the person to ask again, in my opinion that was offensive but than thats my opinion
[00:22] <yo> I'm trying to share files between an ubuntu pc and a windows pc. i can share files thru wireles, but not a lan cable connected directly between the two
[00:22] <EcoBlue> how do I get my Logitech G15 keyboard to work with Ubuntu, LCD screen and all.
[00:22] <arrrghhh> so... no ideas?  titlebars disappear, the fix is "metacity --replace"... what's the problem?  how can i permanently fix this?
[00:22] <JakeConklin> i'm trying to install a package through aptitude and everytime i hit "+" it asks me to put in a tree limit? what does that mean?
[00:23] <hischild> yo, you have to give them ip adresses first. Wlan goes via the router
[00:23] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: you running compiz?
[00:23] <magnetron> yo: does ping work via that ethernet cable?
[00:23] <danand> yo - your not going through a switch or a router?
[00:23] <Jordan_U> yo, Ahh, the important difference there is that in one case you have a router performing DHCP
[00:23] <arrrghhh> _Oz_, NO... i made damn sure that desktop effects are disabled, because that's the issue everyone is having.
[00:23] <arrrghhh> compiz wouldn't run on this machine if it wanted to
[00:23] <yo> how do i ping?
[00:24] <hischild> yo, ping *host*
[00:24] <arrrghhh> yo: uh... ping <IP>
[00:24] <bod_> Pirate_Hunter, sorry,.,.having the factoid changed now, me thinks it could do with a 'could you supply more information' bit
[00:24] <Jordan_U> yo, You can either setup an ad-hoc connection or connect the two with a router of some kind ( does not need to be wireless )
[00:24] <yo> k
[00:24] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: try metacity --replace &
[00:24] <yo> one sec lemme see
[00:24] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: next time you boot up, they should still be there
[00:24] <arrrghhh> _Oz_, can you tell me what the & does?
[00:24] <yo> yeah it works when i ping
[00:24] <prince_jammys> arrrghhh: puts the process in the background
[00:24] <Pirate_Hunter> arrrghhh: is your card even compatible to run compizfusion?
[00:24] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: makes sure it keeps running when you close the terminal window
[00:24] <danand> yo - type ifconfig in a terminal to see if your network cards are configured ok
[00:24] <arrrghhh> _Oz_, after i close the terminal, it persists.  but when i reboot, it doesn't.
[00:25] <Jordan_U> _Oz_, Actually no it doesn't, nohup will do that though
[00:25] <_Oz_> Jordan_U: ok
[00:25] <Pirate_Hunter> bod_: youre right but next time just ask them to rephrase the question or expand on the details please
[00:25] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: I had this problem and running that command plus rebooting seemed to fix it for good, although I had the problem WITH compiz
[00:25] <n2diy> danand: thanks.
[00:25] <arrrghhh> _Oz_, hrm... ok i'll see what that does.  thanks.
[00:25] <n2diy> danand: thanks, but still no sounds.
[00:25] <_Oz_> arrrghhh:  are you using a theme manager?
[00:26] <Bart825> anyone know anything udev
[00:26] <bod_> Pirate_Hunter, complete overhall of the factoid is taking place,.,.making it very polite,. il tell you when its done,. if you could give some feedback please
[00:26] <prince_jammys> !elaborate
[00:26] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[00:26] <magnetron> !anyone | Bart825
[00:26] <ubotu> Bart825: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:26] <Pirate_Hunter> bod_: will be sure to do so you can bet on that
[00:26] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=492008
[00:26] <arrrghhh> _Oz_, i don't believe so... nothing that doesn't already come with plain ubuntu.  i was using xfce on this machine, but the configuration files kept getting screwed up and the menubars would get wonky on her.
[00:26] <Bart825> i am having issues with my network interfaces, i think it may be down to udev
[00:26] <yo> what am i looking for denand?
[00:26] <yo> denand what am i looking for in ifconfig?
[00:27] <Bart825> they change name after a reboot
[00:27] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: xcfe is completely removed?
[00:27] <Pirate_Hunter> bod_: maybe you should follow the example of prince_jammys, well thats just an idea
[00:27] <danand> n2diy - :( uh oh. do you get any sound if you do cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ?? Press ctrl+c to stop that if you do :)
[00:27] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: one more thing
[00:27] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: type "gnome-panels"
[00:27] <arrrghhh> _Oz_, no i need to completely remove xfce still.
[00:27] <_Oz_> in terminal
[00:27] <_Oz_> k
[00:27] <arrrghhh> _Oz_, what does "gnome-panels" do
[00:27] <_Oz_> that's the problem then
[00:27] <FloodBot2> _Oz_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <alsadk> i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57642/
[00:27] <_Oz_> it should permanenty restore gnome panels
[00:27] <yo> brb
[00:28] <Bart825> can anyone help
[00:28] <Talon218> i'm having problems running a java-gui on hardy
[00:28] <bod_> Pirate_Hunter, try !gq now,.,.see what you think
[00:28] <MitchM> how do i tell when a packed in the repos was 'packaged'
[00:28] <n2diy> danand: yes, I can hear clock noise, and it stops and starts with the restart. Let me try that.
[00:28] <Flannel> Talon218: #ubuntu+1 for hardy support, thanks
[00:28] <Talon218> thanks
[00:28] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: let me know if that works
[00:28] <Flannel> MitchM: date wise? or what?
[00:28] <MitchM> Flannel: date wise
[00:28] <Flannel> MitchM: You looking for changelog stuffs?
[00:28] <Pirate_Hunter> bod_: cnat be bothered it seems were goign in circles and getting no where its becoming boring and childish lets stop heer please
[00:28] <Bart825> Anyone help with my udev, interface issue
[00:28] <prince_jammys> lol
[00:28] <arrrghhh> _Oz_, i can't test it now, but i will when my friend gets home.  i'm helping a friend of mine convert to linux.
[00:28] <danand> n2diy - "clock noise" - you should hear static!
[00:28] <MitchM> Flannel: persay.
[00:29] <_Oz_> arrrghhh: ok, I'm betting that will work
[00:29] <MitchM> Flannel: there is a command that show when a package was compiled/packaged.
[00:29] <MitchM> apt-get --show-me-info <package> sort of deal.
[00:29] <arrrghhh> _Oz_, ok thanks.
[00:29] <Flannel> MitchM: well, the changelog will.
[00:29] <Flannel> MitchM: I don't think there's a date in any of the package fields though
[00:29] <bod_> ??
[00:30] <Flannel> MitchM: Or at least, not that I see.
[00:30] <n2diy> danand: same thing. :) I ran the cat command, and it says device or resource busy.
[00:30] <Bart825> how do you find out what version of udev im running
[00:30] <MitchM> Flannel: thanks though ;)
[00:31] <Flannel> MitchM: You can find out when by looking at the changelog though.  Packages.ubuntu.com is the easiest place I know to get it (synaptic might have it as well, I suppose)
[00:31] <n2diy> danand: I think I have a lock file to delete, any idea where it is?
[00:31] <danand> n2diy - bah... how about cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio
[00:31] <Bart825> am i not allowed any help
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Bart825,  apt-cache policy udev
[00:31] <Bart825> thanks jordan_U
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Bart825, np, be more patient next time though :)
[00:32] <alsadk>  i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57642/
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[00:32] <AtticStorm> Jordan_U, thank you.  I take it that if I installed the AMD64-bit OS that would work also?'
[00:32] <prince_jammys> !away >JonathanX
[00:32] <n2diy> danand: same thing. :) I ran the cat command, and it says device or resource busy.
[00:32] <Pirate_Hunter> someone kick him do soemthign that is annoying on my screen
[00:32] <danand> n2diy - yeah .... was just thinking, somethings tied up /dev/dsp..... theres a command to see what processes are accessing a file ... can't remember what is is
[00:33] <prince_jammys> !away>IBEGONE
[00:33] <Bart825> how do i make sure my machine boots up with the same number interfaces each time
[00:33] <billenium> How do i free up some space in /boot/ ??
[00:34] <Flannel> billenium: remove old kernel packages
[00:34] <n2diy> danand: roger that, to many ways to do things.
[00:34] <hischild> bod_, now for the big test! (wait, you're still here? ) let's switch graphics cards
[00:34] <Pirate_Hunter> Bart825: it should do anyway, i dont get what you are asking, could you please explain in detail
[00:34] <billenium> How do i know what to remove and what not to? and how?
[00:34] <n2diy> Where does the sound server hide it's lock file?
[00:34] <bod_> hischild, stranely enough, yes i am,. i though id of been cut by now
[00:35] <puff> n2diy: I haven't been able to find it, I'
[00:35] <Pirate_Hunter> billenium: there is many tutorials online on how to improve ubuntu search in google but be warned it can mess up your system
[00:35] <billenium> Pirate_Hunter: Okay... What should i search?
[00:35] <joejojo> hey everyone
[00:35] <puff> n2diy: I haven't been able to find a sound server lock file, I suspect it's actually in memory, maybe in kernel space (if I understand what's going on correctly).
[00:35] <billenium> i already tried free up /boot space
[00:36] <joejojo> Im on 8.04 and I am having this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57644/
[00:36] <Pirate_Hunter> billenium: erh optimising ubuntu that could be a start
[00:36] <puff> Argh, so tracker is sucking up like half a gig of disk.
[00:36] <prince_jammys> !hardy | joejojo
[00:36] <ubotu> joejojo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:36] <puff> And it occasionally bogs my system down.
[00:36] <n2diy> puff, yuck! :)
[00:36] <hischild> bod_, guess not ... just switched cards ... let's test!
[00:36] <Jordan_U> AtticStorm, Yes
[00:36] <billenium> k. im trying to use unetbootin, and it needs /boot space
[00:36] <Bart825> one of my interfaces used to be eth5, and i set the interfaces file to put it in promisc mode, all was well. the other day i rebooted the machine and it put this interface to eth2 and tried giving it a dhcp address. when i changed my interface file to put eth 2 to promisc when i reboot, eth5 comes up
[00:36] <bod_> hischild, crossing all fingers 4 u m8
[00:36] <puff> I was wondering where all of my disk space went.
[00:37] <Pirate_Hunter> billenium: what are you trying to to do exactly and what do you hope to achieve by doing so?
[00:37] <alsadk>  i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57642/
[00:37] <AtticStorm> Jordan_U: Thanks again.
[00:37] <hischild> bod_, ..... splash screen ....
[00:37] <billenium> Im trying to reinstall ubuntu... I made a few errors i cant easily undo... So im using unetbootin to reinstall (CD drive does not work)
[00:38] <bod_> hischild, good start
[00:38] <hischild> bod_, ........gdm .... DARN! :(
[00:38] <billenium> i tried to install unetbootin and got errors, so i tried 5 more times... same error, now i decided to try again and it said i needed to free up /boot space
[00:38] <puff> But dangit, I shouldhave more disk than this... I have 32GB assigned to the liknux partition, it says I'm using 29GB, jdiskreport says I'm using 20GB.  So where's the other 9GB?
[00:38] <Klaim> hello
[00:38] <bod_> hischild, what?
[00:39] <Pirate_Hunter> billenium: kk, why doesnt your CDRom drive work? and what about using USB?
[00:39] <hischild> bod_, first attempt was with quiet and splash on ... which failed ....
[00:39] <hischild> second attempt was without splash and quiet, got better, but still failed
[00:39] <puff> Ohwait, jdiskreport says I'm using 26GB, and 1.6GB empty.  Still, there's 4.5GB somewhere...
[00:39] <billenium> Long long story... and im guessing the USB will not work since my BIOS is about 8 or 9 years old
[00:39] <bod_> hischild, what failed (specifically)
[00:39] <Klaim> i have an ubuntu server with some subversion repository and trac projects (with apache)
[00:40] <hischild> bod_, just the same ... as soon as it should show gdm it reboots
[00:40] <Pirate_Hunter> billenium: im starting to wonder if you know what your doing there must be another option to installing ubuntu clean on the hd
[00:40] <hischild> no warning, no error, just reboot
[00:40] <billenium> I dont know any other options :P
[00:40] <Klaim> i want the server to backup the svn repository, the trac data and apache config  every day
[00:40] <Klaim> what would you use to do it?
[00:40] <hischild> Klaim, crontab :-)
[00:40] <bod_> hischild, boot straight past gdm,.,.i think you can do that (auto login) did you install restricted drivers for the card?
[00:41] <Klaim> i heard about bacula and rsync this far, but not sure if it's good for it
[00:41] <hischild> bod_, i'd like to try to try that now yes ... (install restricted drivers)
[00:41] <xconvergexx> hello
[00:41] <hischild> bod_, which packages?
[00:41] <xconvergexx> I installed ubuntu
[00:41] <Bart825> could i change the iftab file, but why is it trying to put it to dhcp
[00:41]  * Klaim note "crontab"
[00:41] <wers> how do i print as handout view in oo.o presentation? :)
[00:41] <xconvergexx> still cant work with my USB MODEM
[00:41] <bod_> hischild, *shrugs* (the restricted ones)
[00:41] <hischild> lol
[00:41] <billenium> hmm...
[00:41] <n2diy> How can I restart my sound server? I've lost system sounds, and CD's don't play? Sound Juicer reports it can't find the server. And Audacity reports an i/o error. I restarted alsa, and still no luck?
[00:41] <xconvergexx> I have sagem fast 800 USB MODEM
[00:41] <Klaim> i also need to have a backup copy on an ftp, will it be able to do it?
[00:41] <hischild> bod_, nvidia-glx-new?
[00:41] <puff> Hm, df -h lists 6 lines (not counting the headings).  The first line says 32GB, the next five lines all say 1014M, for /var/run, /var/lock, /dev, /dev/shm, and /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/volatile.
[00:42] <xconvergexx> I instaled the windows again i
[00:42] <xconvergexx> it makes me sick
[00:42] <bod_> hischild, why not,.,. give it a go
[00:42] <hischild> Klaim, afaik you can run shell scripts from crontab, and with shellscripts you can do basically everything
[00:42] <Jordan_U> xconvergexx, Unfortunately things like USB modems don't have very good Linux support :(
[00:42] <puff> Are lines 2-6 actually part of the 32G in line 1?
[00:42] <xconvergexx> I don't have money to buy another modem
[00:43] <astro76> puff: yes all 4 are virtual
[00:43] <astro76> puff: no, all 4 are virtual ;)
[00:43] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey guys how can you set a label on a drive in Gnome
[00:43] <archman> xconvergexx: try pppoeconf if you want to setup.
[00:43] <Klaim> hischild> yes i know, i wanted to do my own backup script first, but as i'm a linux noob i lost too much time firuring out how to setup all the backup right
[00:43] <xconvergexx> than
[00:43] <xconvergexx> I tried
[00:43] <Pirate_Hunter> billenium: have you checked here for otherways of installing ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[00:43] <hischild> bod_, how to get eth0 runnin on dhcp via console?
[00:43] <astro76> puff: 5, sorry ;)
[00:43] <Klaim> that's why i'm looking for tools
[00:43] <billenium> Yes
[00:43] <danand> n2diy - have you looked in /var/lock ?
[00:43] <billenium> SUCCSES!
[00:43] <Bart825> is udev only in ubuntu
[00:43] <hischild> Klaim, you can just pack it uzing for example 7zip
[00:44] <bod_> hischild, no idea m8,. ask the channel
[00:44] <billenium> Never mind, i got everything to work :P
[00:44] <billenium> Thanks Pirate_Hunter, bye bye!
[00:44] <xconvergexx> somebody going to help me ?
[00:44] <hischild> oh almighty channel, how can i get eth0 running using dhcp from command line?
[00:44] <xconvergexx> I am a newbie
[00:44] <Pirate_Hunter> billenium: np thats what this channel is for
[00:44] <Jordan_U> xconvergexx, Can you possibly get a standard PCI modem ( preferably one known to have linux drivers ) ?
[00:44] <Klaim> hischild> as i said, i'm a linux noob, so yes i can...if i find the commands.
[00:44] <Jordan_U> hischild, sudo dhclient eth0
[00:45] <Klaim> but ok i'll try that
[00:45] <amenado> hischild-> paste in pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and ifconfig -a  result
[00:45] <alsadk>  i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57642/
[00:45] <hischild> Klaim, you can package things using 7zip which is very easy to use
[00:45] <hischild> amenado, if i could i would :p but i don't have a webaccess now
[00:45] <n2diy> danand: no, thanks. But no luck there.
[00:45] <xconvergexx> I can'T
[00:45] <xconvergexx> I have to do it with this modem
[00:45] <amenado> hischild-> yes you could and you would, you can copy and paste can you not? manually type it if you have to
[00:45] <hischild> Jordan_U, <3 for you, thanks
[00:46] <Jordan_U> hischild, np
[00:46] <Klaim> so you suggest the better thing is to make a script and use crontab to make it run each day?
[00:46] <xconvergexx> do I need to set up my modem on 7.10 ?
[00:46] <BillyJoe> is there a way to down load all the packages in one dvd iso or something?
[00:46] <hischild> amenado, true there.... then Jordan_U was ahead of you and it works :-)
[00:46] <rhineheart_m> where can we get SSL certificate for free?
[00:46] <archman> alsadk: run it in sudo
[00:46] <Klaim> ("better" as more suitable)
[00:46] <hischild> amenado, i cannot copy paste, since i don't have a gui atm
[00:47] <Bart825> anyone able to help me
[00:47] <Pirate_Hunter> xconvergexx: most of the times the OS does it for you on install, however if you have wireless its different or you want to change options than yes
[00:47] <hischild> !anyone | Bart825
[00:47] <ubotu> Bart825: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:47] <andy_> Hi, I have some funds to buy a desktop, preferably a Dell. Can someone point me to some reference that describes Dell systems that should work, with out much trouble, with ubuntu? Thanks!
[00:47] <Bart825> i did before
[00:47] <puff> astro76: Thanks, that answers where the missing 4.6GB went :-).
[00:47] <javiergarza> Hi, i have a problems whit my laptop my touchpad don't works correctly , the scroll not works :S
[00:47] <adamb> Does http use any UDP at all?
[00:47] <Pirate_Hunter> BillyJoe: you mean like copy it all to DVDR/RW?
[00:47] <xconvergexx> I have a USB MODEM !
[00:47] <BillyJoe> Yes.
[00:47] <billenium> heh back
[00:47] <billenium> !LAMP
[00:47] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[00:48] <puff> So, I've disabled compiz, I've dist-upgraded, anything else I can do to improve my stability?
[00:48] <hischild> bod_, almost profit ...
[00:48] <xconvergexx> please somebody help me
[00:48] <Jordan_U> hischild, You can save the output of a command to a file with: command >> file.txt
[00:48] <hischild> bod_, i saw a login screen flash
[00:48] <plux> Bart825: if you dont get an answer, perhaps we dont know. Have you checked http://ubuntuforums.org/?
[00:48] <Pirate_Hunter> Bart825: ask again its hard to remember previous questions
[00:48] <BillyJoe> I am trying to get my wireless card working on my dell, but it is calling for build essential wich calls for a lot, and thows all call for more.
[00:48] <bod_> hischild, what plan are we on now,.,.f?
[00:48] <hischild> Jordan_U, yeah ...
[00:48] <Bart825> one of my interfaces used to be eth5, and i set the interfaces file to put it in promisc mode, all was well. the other day i rebooted the machine and it put this interface to eth2 and tried giving it a dhcp address. when i changed my interface file to put eth 2 to promisc when i reboot, eth5 comes up
[00:48] <hischild> bod_, eehm ... i think this was e ... now we gotta think of an f
[00:48] <Jordan_U> hischild, You can also run GUI apps remotely with another machine using ssh -X
[00:49] <danand> n2diy - man fuser :) - not sure it'll help but its the command i was trying to think of
[00:49] <javiergarza> Hi, i have a problems whit my laptop my touchpad don't works correctly , the scroll not works :S
[00:49] <Bart825> so do i need to add perm entries to iftab
[00:49] <Pirate_Hunter> BillyJoe: you should start by stating what modem youve got (model type etc) and ppl might be able to help you
[00:49] <hischild> Jordan_U, not all the info at once :p my brain might explode :p
[00:49] <n2diy> danand: ok.
[00:49] <bod_> hischild, autologin?
[00:49] <hischild> bod_, how2enable?
[00:49] <bod_> hischild, dude, ur in a help channel,.,.ask!
[00:49] <alsadk> archman take a look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57648/
[00:49] <hischild> i just did!
[00:49] <hischild> :p
[00:49] <Bart825> one of my interfaces used to be eth5, and i set the interfaces file to put it in promisc mode, all was well. the other day i rebooted the machine and it put this interface to eth2 and tried giving it a dhcp address. when i changed my interface file to put eth 2 to promisc when i reboot, eth5 comes up
[00:50] <hischild> alright another one for the channel --> how to enable auto login from command line :-)
[00:50] <Pirate_Hunter> Bart825: i understood what youre saying but I do not see the problem as it seems to be working but I dont know what you want to do
[00:50] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know if I'll get 64-bit benefits in transcode if I install ubuntu64?
[00:50] <BillyJoe> I have the dell draft N mini-card http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092 is the instruction I have found, but it requires a LOT of packages to be installed, so I was wondering if there was a place to down load a large number at once, instead of all of them individualy
[00:50] <Jordan_U> hischild, What is the main problem you are trying to solve?
[00:51] <archman> alsadk: dunno, is your gtk all set?  (i'm a noob)
[00:51] <Bart825> Priate_hunter:where is the system setting the interface to dhcp and to eth2 it just seems random
[00:51] <alsadk>  i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57648/
[00:51] <SpudDogg> !64-bit
[00:51] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[00:51] <hischild> Jordan_U, i'm trying to get my nvidia 8600 GT working properly. Currently it flashes the GDM screen before it dies down for a reboot without warning
[00:51] <Pirate_Hunter> BillyJoe: if thats the case probably not unless you try synaptic and see if it helps
[00:51] <hischild> Jordan_U, so perhaps that auto loggin in past gdm might fix it :-)
[00:51] <bod_> Jordan_U, his gdm screen reboots machine,. need to get loed in to install gcard drivers, so gdm doesnt crash
[00:51] <plux> BillyJoe: apt-get install package1 package2 package3 package4 .... will download them at once
[00:51] <Klaim> thanks, see ya
[00:52] <alsadk> archman what about gtk ?
[00:52] <matthias> My player in ubuntu 7.10 have colors like green human ratherthan normal
[00:52] <Jordan_U> hischild, Have you tried changing "nvidia" to "nv" or "vesa" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[00:52] <Bart825> Priate_Hunter: my question really is where and how do you set the network interfaces
[00:52] <archman> alsadk: did you install gtk?
[00:52] <hischild> Jordan_U, not yet, let me try ... sec
[00:52] <Jordan_U> matthias, Do you have an ATI card
[00:52] <archman> alsadk: apt-get install build-essential
[00:52] <matthias> yes
[00:52] <matthias> jordan ...
[00:52] <Pirate_Hunter> Bart825: Admin>Network tools should have the necessities for you to change what you want to change but I can forsee you making things worse
[00:53] <matthias> jordan yes i do ati1400 ...
[00:53] <hischild> Jordan_U, wait, that shouldn't make a difference ... it always reboots on gdm, wether it's the live cd, a clean system or anything else :S
[00:53] <amenado> Bart825-> paste in pastebing..do this, /sbin/ip a;  then cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[00:53] <javiergarza> Hi, i have a problems whit my laptop my touchpad don't works correctly , the scroll not works :S
[00:53] <javiergarza> Hi, i have a problems whit my laptop my touchpad don't works correctly , the scroll not works :S
[00:53] <hischild> Jordan_U, also: it's currently at vesa
[00:53] <UbuntuStudio11> Hello!
[00:53] <xconvergexx> NL
[00:54] <UbuntuStudio11> Is this the place for Ubuntu Studio?
[00:54] <rhineheart_m> where can we get SSL certificate for free?
[00:54] <Pirate_Hunter> javiergarza: have you tried searching on google on in ubuntuforum.org
[00:54] <xconvergexx> HEY !!!!!!!!
[00:54] <mondo1932> what make laptop
[00:54] <hischild> !shout | xconvergexx
[00:54] <ubotu> xconvergexx: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[00:54] <Bart825> ther is no inet rules in the udev folder
[00:54] <n2diy> danand: no luck, fuser -l sound or alsa return nothing, I'm going to log out, and in, see if that works.
[00:54] <Pirate_Hunter> UbuntuStudio11: didnt you make a statement you were an IT guy, what are you doing back heer again and asking for info?
[00:54] <amenado> javiergarza-> i dont have all the answers for you, but what you need to do, is modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf,  google for synaptic touch pad
[00:54] <xconvergexx> my usb modem doesnt working on UBUNTU 7.10
[00:54] <xconvergexx> what must I DO !
[00:54] <Pici> UbuntuStudio11: #ubuntustudio exists, but if you have a general Ubuntu question, this is the place.
[00:54] <speeddemon8803> !ubuntustudio > ubuntustudio11
[00:55] <amenado> !who | Bart825
[00:55] <ubotu> Bart825: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:55] <danand> n2diy - did you run fuser -uv /dev/dsp?
[00:55] <AtomicSpark> i have this old netserver, duel pII (unknown speed) 256 pc100 ram 2x 8gb scsi hd. any ideas of something nifty to do with it?
[00:55] <UbuntuStudio11> oh, did someone already use that name? and Thanks!
[00:55] <matthias> jordan_: i am sitting on an inspiron laptop from dell ...
[00:55] <n2diy> danand: nope, let me try that.
[00:55] <fragmede> !tab
[00:55] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[00:55] <xconvergexx> my usb modem doesnt working on UBUNTU 7.10
[00:55] <Pirate_Hunter> Bart825: the funny thing about your case I have no clue what your tying to achieve and why you doing so, I cant even think on how to help you :(
[00:55] <danand> n2diy - k
[00:55] <dbmoodb> hi ah i make my terminal transparent it won't go back to normal (reverse scrolling) any ideas - i want to use compiz-fusion so .. how can i reset the trans. options
[00:55] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey guys how would I setup a thumb drive to always use the name foo when it mounts on a machine.
[00:55] <danand> n2diy - brb
[00:55] <Jordan_U> hischild, Try running "startx"
[00:56] <mouseboyx> or xinit
[00:56] <hischild> Jordan_U, on what part/where
[00:56] <Jordan_U> hischild, At a console
[00:56] <xconvergexx> my usb modem doesnt working on UBUNTU 7.10
[00:56] <yo> is there any way to ping an ip thru a specific hardware device (ie wireless vs LAN)?
[00:56] <dbmoodb> init 6
[00:56] <Bart825> Amendo:there is no file in the udev rules for inet rules
[00:56] <dbmoodb> !inet
[00:56] <dbmoodb> doesn't exist see
[00:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:56] <hischild> Jordan_U, i don't even have to touch my box when it boots and it reboots ... so i can't login ... unless i go to recovery (unless that's what you want me to do )
[00:56] <yo> anyone?
[00:56] <xconvergexx> why nobody asnwers ?
[00:56] <alsadk> archman i did it but still the same problem i think
[00:57] <danand> yo - ping -I et0 192....
[00:57] <speeddemon8803> !patience | xconvergexx
[00:57] <ubotu> xconvergexx: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:57] <yo> hey archman! its yo__
[00:57] <alsadk> i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57648/
[00:57] <Bart825> Priate Hunter:im trying to understand why my machine reports different interfaces on each reboot and make it stable along with trying to get a base knowlegde so i can fix it
[00:57] <xconvergexx> I am waiting
[00:57] <billy> is there any way to ping an ip thru a specific hardware device (ie wireless vs LAN)?
[00:57] <Jordan_U> hischild, Ahh, Ok go to recovery console but DO NOT run startx yet
[00:57] <archman> yo_: hey
[00:57] <dbmoodb> ping ?
[00:57] <archman> yo: hey
[00:57] <hischild> Jordan_U, i'm there
[00:58] <billy> so archman: can u answer my question?
[00:58] <Bart825> billy:please can you expand
[00:58] <Pici> billy: ping -I
[00:58] <dbmoodb> just set up the adaptor as your gateway one ;) or -l
[00:58] <danand> dbmoodb - pong :)
[00:58] <billy> ping -L or i?
[00:58] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey guys how would I setup a thumb drive to always use the name foo when it mounts on any machine.
[00:58] <archman> billy: no
[00:58] <zero88> Ok. For some reason, every time i boot up, my computer automatically mounts my other partitiojn. why is that and how do i stop it from doing that?
[00:58] <BillyJoe> with synaptic you can chose to just download the packages, dose any one know how to tell were they down loaded to?
[00:58] <mondo1932> fstab
[00:58] <billy> because for some reason i can share files through wireless and not a lan cable directly connected..
[00:58] <Bart825> billy: ping -I eth0 192.10.0.0
[00:58] <Jordan_U> hischild, I am not sure if this will work, and I am not sure how to get to the equivelent of a higher runlevel in Ubuntu, but try su'ing to your user then running startx
[00:58] <brapse> my xorg keeps booting with Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe"
[00:58] <Pirate_Hunter> Bart825: kk, maybe could it be that it is on roaming instead of fixed but than I dont worry about it since mine is eth1
[00:58] <brapse> mthow do i stio that?
[00:59] <n2diy> danand: no luck, and I tried it with alsa and sound too.
[00:59] <xconvergexx> somebody help me
[00:59] <xconvergexx> !!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:59] <hischild> Jordan_U, alright ... any idea on how to switch to my user?
[00:59] <Pirate_Hunter> BillyJoe: depends on the program but thats a good question even I would like to know
[00:59] <archman> yo: you got ndiswrapper working?
[00:59] <billy> !ask | xconvergexx
[00:59] <ubotu> xconvergexx: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:59] <Jordan_U> brapse, "su <yourUserName>
[00:59] <hischild> !patience | xconvergexx  (this isn't goin faster by shouting)
[00:59] <ubotu> xconvergexx  (this isn't goin faster by shouting): The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:59] <billy> yes archman
[00:59] <billy> im on the ubuntu comp right now
[00:59] <xconvergexx> my usb modem doesnt working on UBUNTU 7.10
[00:59] <danand> n2diy - have you tried reboot?
[00:59] <archman> yo: yo=billy ?
[00:59] <billy> and i said eff it with ndiswrapper.. i just used bcm43xx thingy to unwrap a driver
[00:59] <Bart825> priate_hunter:my system has 6 interfaces you see so i need to make sure it reports the same one each time.
[01:00] <billy> yes archman
[01:00] <`Zigosity> Hey, does anyone know how to remove the password prompt I'm getting when sharing files between my ubuntu box and windows XP? It's sort of annoying.
[01:00] <AtomicSpark> xconvergexx: you should never hook a modem to your computer directly. always use a router to protect your network by nat.
[01:00] <Bart825> xxconvergexxx: does it reconise it as a mount point
[01:00] <archman> billy: ok then
[01:00] <n2diy> danand: no, I'd like to preserve my uptime, but that may be the solution. I'm going to log out and in, maybe that will do it? BRB.
[01:01] <xconvergexx> I dont have a router modem
[01:01] <billy> archman: lol. do you have any advice about setting up a LAN between these two via a patch cable? my routers do automatic crossover so i don't have to worry about crossover vs patch cables
[01:01] <AtomicSpark> `Zigosity: if you mount the drive (connect to server...) instead of finding it through network, you can tell it to save your password.
[01:01] <hischild> Jordan_U, nvm, i should look better before asking ... startx you said?
[01:01] <archman> billy: now it will be a lot easier for you to install aditional softwaer
[01:01] <billy> lol yes archman
[01:01] <archman> billy: dunno
[01:01] <Pirate_Hunter> I believe that probably half of all problems here can be sorted by doing some online research in google or the ubuntu forum yet no most dont do that :(
[01:01] <amenado> Bart825-> paste in pastebin..do this, /sbin/ip a;  then cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[01:01] <billy> anyone have any advice?
[01:01] <Jordan_U> hischild, Yes, after you are logged in as "you"
[01:02] <danand> Pirate_Hunter - or man ....
[01:02] <stormze1> I need help configuring the nvidia driver.  Can anyone assist?  I've been messing with it for hours now.
[01:02] <archman> billy: dont know much about hardware; software's my thing
[01:02] <`Zigosity> AtomicSpark: I knew that, but last time I set up this network I somehow removed the password prompt entirely and I don't remember how I did that.
[01:02] <billy> mm
[01:02] <Jordan_U> n2diy, If you want to get as close to a reboot while ( probably though I am not 100% sure ) keeping your uptime try "sudo init 1", what problem are you having though?
[01:02] <hischild> Jordan_U, su'd to my user, typed startx ... error'd :( "X: user not authorized to run the x server, aborting"
[01:02] <Pirate_Hunter> danand: funny enough I dont use man which is weird I liek to do things the long way never been to reading manual :(
[01:03] <billy> how do i tell when using iwconfig which is my ethernet and which is my wireless?
[01:03] <amenado> billy can you read the result, there should be some clue or hints
[01:03] <billy> what do i look for?
[01:03] <archman> billy: iwconfig is all wireless
[01:03] <amenado> billy try and issue then read the result, its pretty obvious
[01:03] <billy> ifconfig i mean
[01:04] <stormze1> how can I test my sound?
[01:04] <Bart825> whats the paste bin address
[01:04] <amenado> billy please prefix your responses with a nick..
[01:04] <danand> Pirate_Hunter - those man pages _are_ long... and sometimes _very_ boring... not to mention unclear!
[01:04] <Odd-rationale> stormze1: speak-test
[01:04] <amenado> !pastebin | Bart825
[01:04] <ubotu> Bart825: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:04] <hischild> Jordan_U, on second attempt --> reboot
[01:04] <Odd-rationale> stormze1: speaker-test
[01:04] <billy> amenado: okee dokee..........
[01:04] <Pirate_Hunter> danand: true true
[01:04] <Bart825> amendo: how do i get to pastbin
[01:04] <alsadk> i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57648/
[01:04] <xTheGoat121x> ntos_wq seems to be giving my system problems....
[01:05] <Bart825> pastebin!
[01:05] <Bart825> !pastebin
[01:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:05] <amenado> Bart825-> browser..
[01:05] <J-a-K-e> hi all
[01:05] <Jordan_U> hischild, Ok, I have one more idea but I need to read up a bit, stay in recovery mode
[01:05] <archman> billy: try ifconfig eth
[01:05] <billy> how do i stop the ping command!?
[01:05] <billy> it wont stop!!
[01:05] <neftune> billenium, Ctrl+C
[01:05] <hischild> Jordan_U, i just booted back into recovery mode. I've got all night so take your time
[01:06] <hischild> billy, ctrl+c
[01:06] <billy> lmao im such a noob
[01:06] <archman> billy: ctrl+c
[01:06] <billy> lol
[01:06] <neftune> billenium, sorry
[01:06] <n2diy> danand: my sound started up as soon as I logged out! WTF?
[01:06] <Bart825> amendo:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57650/
[01:06] <Mega_byte> hi all, is there any tool for windows which can read synaptic package download scripts? I want to download Ubuntu updates from a windows machine and know it can be done through a custom made program but wondering if there aren't any ready tools for this
[01:06] <billy> i got a ping from my eth0, which i believe is my LAN.. i hope.
[01:06] <J-a-K-e> just wondering if anyone can tell me, does ubuntu have sound drivers that compare to those available to windows users?
[01:06] <shem> Remote Desktop Help anyone?  How do I find the full name of this machine?
[01:06] <archman> billy: probably
[01:07] <amenado> Bart825-> do that again...leave a space after my nick
[01:07] <J-a-K-e> im talking in terms of quality
[01:07] <Bart825> amendo:there was no inet in the rules under udev. do you think i could make these interfaces perm by modifying the iftab file
[01:07] <Mega_byte> J-a-K-e: you can use windows drivers in ubuntu
[01:07] <Bart825> amendo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57650/
[01:07] <Pirate_Hunter> Mega_byte: first time ive read someone making this kind of request cant help but its interesting
[01:07] <danand> n2diy - _something_ was using that sound.... wonder why fuser didn't show it ... at least your sounds back though :) what gives with the uptime ... you going for a world record?
[01:08] <matthias> anyone knows how to get rid of the smurf effect from the vide player in ubuntu 7.10
[01:08] <J-a-K-e> Mega_byte: how would i go about doing that
[01:08] <amenado> Bart825-> can you also list your /etc/udev/udev.d/  ?
[01:09] <archman> matthias: ccsm?
[01:09] <amenado> Bart825-> can you also list your /etc/udev/rules.d rather
[01:09] <billy> how do i find the MAC address of my NIC?
[01:09] <Mega_byte> Pirate_Hunter, that particular ubuntu machine is just isn't connected on internet and the only way to get updates for it is to use windows, there is a topic on the forums, but everyone seems to run the package download script on other ubuntu (or gnu/linux) connected machines
[01:09] <matthias> no the movie player in ubuntu 7.10
[01:09] <billenium> neftune: what did you say? i kind of missed it :P
[01:09] <Mega_byte> J-a-K-e, it's easy all you have to do is to install ndiswrapper and load your windows driver there
[01:09] <n2diy> danand: roger that. No, not going for a record, but I do like to brag about uptime.
[01:09] <Bart825> Amendo: its not there
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> matthias: you mean totem ?
[01:09] <matthias> the same in the vlc player but more stable when playing ...
[01:09] <amenado> Bart825-> can you also list your /etc/udev/rules.d/  this is a directory
[01:09] <archman> matthias: you can maybe tweak it with ccsm (compizconfig settings manager)
[01:09] <neftune> billenium, wrong tab completion
[01:09] <danand> n2diy - brag away... :) what you got?
[01:10] <fragmede> billy: "ifconfig eth0" (assuming its eth)
[01:10] <matthias> where do i find that ome ?
[01:10] <matthias> that one ... archman
[01:10] <fragmede> billy: hwaddr is your mac
[01:10] <Mega_byte> J-a-K-e, I used this method to install a driver for my wireless card
[01:10] <n2diy> danand: 4 days +, my record is 197.
[01:10] <archman> matthias: just a sec...
[01:10] <khalood> i have ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso and wubi 7.04 .... why it tries to download a new iso ???
[01:10] <matthias> ok
[01:10] <J-a-K-e> i just did a sound quality between itunes (with passthrough to foobar+asio) and amarok. Music in itunes sounds more open cymbals sound better etc.
[01:11] <Odd-rationale> matthias: try !ccsm
[01:11] <Mega_byte> khalood, I had the same problem while installing, check first the md5 hashes
[01:11] <amenado> khalood-> what were you doing?
[01:11] <danand> n2diy - tut tut - what about global warming :D
[01:11] <Bart825> Does anyone know what the difference is between the 2 rx`s in ifconfig on a promisc interface
[01:11] <Mega_byte> khalood, and also what version do you try to install the new beta or the 7.04?
[01:11] <khalood> amenado:  I'm trying to intsall ubunto
[01:11] <khalood> Mega_byte: wubi 7.04
[01:11] <Bart825> Does anyone know what the difference is between the 2 rx`s in ifconfig on a promisc interface
[01:11] <J-a-K-e> Mega_byte: ok, I thought ndiswrapper was just for wireless cards tho
[01:11] <n2diy> danand: junk science, besides, I like being warm. :)
[01:11] <matthias> okey i will do but as well in another movei player the mives is like gel style ...
[01:11] <Mega_byte> khalood, check the md5 hashes for your iso
[01:11] <amenado> khalood-> you have burnt the cd with the iso yet?
[01:11] <gpled> installed 7.10 from live cd. was working away. things where good.  then i applied the 192 updates.  rebooted.  now i can not see the screen.  any idea how to get video back?
[01:12] <acee1234> ok that got rid of alot of the errors now how do i load fglrx?
[01:12] <khalood> amenado:  no ,, installing form my hard disc
[01:12] <khalood> Mega_byte:  ok
[01:12] <Mega_byte> amenado, wubi doesn't need a cd to install, it's made for people who don't want to use a cd ;)
[01:12] <jtrag> I'm downloading the ubuntu cd right now
[01:12] <jtrag> I have Opensuse on this drive also, how could I go about installing ubuntu with opensuse on the drive?
[01:12] <LAsT> cool:)
[01:12] <archman> matthias: you have ccsm im synaptics package manager
[01:12] <Darkmystere> Err,how do i move partions.. i have a huge amount of empty space but its like 3 partions up from Ubuntu so i tried making the empty space  fat32 and then..im lost how do i get the partion to move :/
[01:12] <amenado> Mega_byte-> i dont know what he has so i have to ask
[01:12] <LAsT> hi all
[01:12] <matthias> i will loo and install it ...
[01:12] <Mega_byte> amenado, no problems :)
[01:13] <danand> n2diy - i dunno .... the earths getting warmer - the junk science is someone saying its _definately_ due to human action...
[01:13] <willis_> Darkmystere,  if they are empty, you can delete them and resize the other partitions.
[01:13] <Mega_byte> usually that happens when the iso is broken
[01:13] <Bart825> DARMYSTERE: Fdisk
[01:13] <alsadk> i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57648/
[01:13] <willis_> Darkmystere,  i tend to use 'gparted' on a livecd.
[01:13] <amenado> Bart825-> can you also list your /etc/udev/rules.d/  this is a directory ..you forgot?
[01:13] <acee1234> can someone look at this log and tell me who i was talking with
[01:13] <Bart825> amendo: what the ls of the dir
[01:14] <Nick-O> i was wanting to experiment with some other linux distros and was wondering how to quintuple (?) boot. i have ubuntu and vista currently and would like to add gentoo, fedora and opensuse (all x64). will grub work for all of these and how do i configure grub inside ubuntu to see all of the os's
[01:14] <yo> can someone help me with setting up a LAN network via patch cable?
[01:14] <Kitar88> http://wiresmash.com/people/10-most-beautiful-women-in-the-world/
[01:14] <matthias> archman,  i do not have ccsm when looking ing synaptic package manager but i have sdcc but something different ...
[01:14] <amenado> Bart825-> dir contents yes..and the nick is amenado
[01:14] <LAsT> what is it: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop. <-- please help
[01:14] <jordan_> matthias, Yes, it's a bug in ATI's drivers, run "gstreamer-properties"...
[01:14] <n2diy> danand: Not so sure about that. 100 years of data is an awful small baseline to work from.
[01:14] <jordan_> hischild, There is probably a more official way to do this but try running "mv /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/init.d/gdm_disabled" and reboot, when you reboot GDM should not start at all
[01:14] <jordan_> hischild, To set it back simply rename the file back to "gdm": sudo mv /etc/init.d/gdm_disabled /etc/init.d/gdm
[01:14] <Bart825> amenado: sorry, is there a quick way to get to paste bin
[01:14] <amenado> LAsT-> whose MAkefile is that?
[01:15] <matthias> that is used in the past ???
[01:15] <archman> matthias:  did you look for compizconfig-settings-manager?
[01:15] <amenado> Bart825-> scroll back please
[01:15] <LAsT> i try to build the deb pakage
[01:15] <Darkmystere> willis_: Err, there not empty one is an extended partion then under that is ubuntu above the extended is Backtrack and above backtrack is the empty space..
[01:15] <matthias> let me check ...
[01:15] <danand> n2diy - true. never mind ... by the time its _too_ hot i'll be long gone. :)
[01:15] <archman> matthias: update your reps? apt-get updatež
[01:15] <acee1234> can someone look at this log and tell me who i was talking with
[01:16] <Bart825> Amenado -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57652/
[01:16] <archman> lol apt-get update
[01:16] <amenado> LAsT-> why? no premaid .deb for it?
[01:16] <hischild> Jordan_U, aight lets try :-)
[01:16] <Darkmystere> willis_: its about 39gigs of emptyness..
[01:16] <amenado> Bart825-> can you also list your /etc/udev/rules.d/  this is a directory ..you forgot?
[01:16] <khalood> I have checked them
[01:16] <matthias> i will try that 1:st i  get back when done ...
[01:16] <n2diy> danand: Yep, it is the next humanoid species problem. :)
[01:16] <khalood> they are equal
[01:16] <khalood> md5 hashes are equal
[01:16] <Nick-O> i was wanting to experiment with some other linux distros and was wondering how to quintuple (?) boot. i have ubuntu and vista currently and would like to add gentoo, fedora and opensuse (all x64). will grub work for all of these and how do i configure grub inside ubuntu to see all of the os's
[01:17] <Nick-O> anyone have ideas?
[01:17] <khalood> hash : 9a4ae3cfd68911a861d094ec834c9b48
[01:17] <Nick-O> anythign not intuitive otherwise i'll just do it
[01:17] <willis_> Darkmystere,  theres empty partitions.. then theres partitions that have SOME empty space. :) it all depends on exactly what you got. and exactly what you want to do.
[01:17] <danand> matthias - ccsm is in the universe repository - check you have that repo enables
[01:17] <LAsT> amenado i don't understand you< i'm russian xD
[01:17] <danand> matthias - s/enables/enabled
[01:17] <gpled> Nick-O: think each distro will add to grub.  except vista
[01:18] <willis_> Darkmystere,  ive had to resize/expand/move/ and do some other song and dance befor to get things just right on my systems.
[01:18] <Bart825> Amenado > its at the bottom
[01:18] <hischild> Jordan_U, still bad luck :( dies into reboot
[01:18] <Darkmystere> willis_: Unallocated space is 39.9Gigs.. above that is swap of course below the unallocated is backtrack then below that is extended aka ubuntu..
[01:18] <Nick-O> yeah, but i've got that set up. so i shoudl be good. thanks
[01:18] <khalood> where is mega or any body can hep
[01:18] <prince_jammys> Nick-O: you could try to install inside ubuntu and chroot into it? maybe
[01:18] <Nick-O> i'll try that if i have problems
[01:18] <Darkmystere> i just want to get the empty space to the bottom :/
[01:18] <khalood> i have ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso and wubi 7.04 .... why it tries to download a new iso ???
[01:18] <willis_> Darkmystere,  i tend to only use primary partitions these days.   Swap partition is easy to move.  I alwyas stick them at one end of the hd.
[01:18] <matthias> okey when i run sudo apt-get update i get errpr like /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open resource temporarely unavaliable ... ..
[01:19] <Bart825> Amenado: could i not just change the iftab in etc or should i resolve through udev
[01:19] <Jordan_U> hischild, Does gdm start?
[01:19] <archman> matthias: you have ccsm in add/remove
[01:19] <hischild> Jordan_U, nope, yet it dies into reboot
[01:19] <archman> matthias; run as sudo
[01:19] <Darkmystere> willis_: lol what is the swap for i never figured that out :/
[01:19] <Bart825> Amenado: i noticed this happened after installing snort
[01:19] <matthias> i did
[01:19] <amenado> Bart825-> udev is your key
[01:19] <willis_> Darkmystere,  swap for extra memory when needed.
[01:19] <Jordan_U> hischild, strange
[01:19] <hischild> Jordan_U, wait now it's mentioned... does it matter wether i installed it all into a logical or extended (or w/e you call them ) partition?
[01:19] <Bart825> Amenado : what did the udec rules look like
[01:20] <Darkmystere> wilis_: Fake ram or... like room for downloading or what ever if you run close to end of space?
[01:20] <matthias> i have community-main open source software(universe) with check mark ...
[01:20] <archman> matthias: close add/remove and synaptics, try again
[01:20] <amenado> Bart825-> join me in #bart825 so you can copy what i paste there
[01:20] <Jordan_U> hischild, Shouldn't
[01:20] <LAFiN> I'm having some issues with a USB audio device... ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18926 )
[01:20] <willis_> Darkmystere,  my disk layouts tend to be simple. 4 primary partitions  [windows] [ / ] [/home] and  [swap]
[01:20] <archman> matthias: works?
[01:20] <Bart825> amenado: how do you mean
[01:20] <LAFiN> I basically followed those instructions, but no results
[01:20] <matthias> yes works no error reading
[01:21] <Jordan_U> hischild, might as well revert the /etc/init.d/gdm_disabled now
[01:21] <hischild> Jordan_U,  hmm :( yet it refuses to work :( would i have a better chance when trying to run hardy?
[01:21] <matthias> archman yes it works no errors
[01:21] <archman> matthias: ccsm is available in add/remove
[01:21] <Jordan_U> hischild, Or...
[01:21] <matthias> okey let me check ...
[01:21] <amenado> Bart825-> type /join #bart825
[01:21] <khalood> any other easy tool that helps me install ubuntu without a CED
[01:21] <khalood> CD*
[01:21] <hischild> Jordan_U, *awaits amazing solution*
[01:21] <archman> matthias: advanced something
[01:22] <matthias> under system tools ?
[01:22] <Darkmystere> willis_: well mines not simple lol 3 Primary partions (since yesturday DELETED WINDOWS :D) [Swap] [Empty Space] [Backtrack 3 beta] [Extended]->[/ Ubuntu]
[01:22] <Jordan_U> hischild, First try booting without the 'splash' kernel parameter in grub first ( if you don't know how just ask )
[01:22] <archman> matthias: just use search
[01:22] <matthias> archman : in add/remove prgoram under system tools, looking there ...
[01:22] <hischild> Jordan_U, did that, without splash and quiet ... gave no extra info
[01:22] <archman> matthias: no, under applications
[01:22] <hischild> that was plan ... c or d i think
[01:23] <matthias> found it ...
[01:23] <matthias> archman found it was not enabled ...
[01:23] <khalood> please any tools that helps me install ubuntu without a CD
[01:23] <archman> matthias: install, good luck!
[01:24] <matthias> archman installed will look for it ...
[01:24] <matthias> thaks
[01:24] <matthias> thanks
[01:24] <hischild> wb
[01:24] <prince_jammys> !install > khalood
[01:24] <willis_> Darkmystere,    and what are you wanting to do with it? expand the ubuntu partition?
[01:24] <Darkmystere> willis_: Yea...i was gunna delete backtrack too :)
[01:24] <archman> matthias: if installed it can  be found under system --> preferencies
[01:24] <todd_> I have a giant avi, I want to chop down (alot of it is just garbage), what app should I use?
[01:24] <Darkmystere> willis_ and make Ubuntu a Primary..
[01:24] <LAsT> archman how to do "make"?
[01:24] <babika> hi all
[01:25] <willis_> Darkmystere,  expanding a extended partition with gparted may cause an issue.  it will most likely change the UUID of the filesystem also.
[01:25] <babika> i have installed in my box apache and php
[01:25] <prince_jammys> todd_: avidemux is one possibility
[01:25] <babika> but my php cant read php file
[01:25] <willis_> Darkmystere,  Not sure about converting to a primary. :)  that will proberly change the UUID also.
[01:25] <babika> check it :http://80.80.174.45/
[01:25] <archman> LAsT: cd to source folder, do    ./configure, then make
[01:25] <babika> can anyon help me
[01:25] <todd_> prince_jammys: does it have a gui?
[01:25] <matthias> archman looking but find nothing need to restart my laptop, what was the name of the program agian ?
[01:26] <Darkmystere> willis_well shoot i have Partion Magic but can i just make a CD-R Bootable by adding boot files.. or do i have to buy and download special version?
[01:26] <matthias> archamn universal access
[01:26] <archman> matthias: ccsm, compizconfig...
[01:26] <prince_jammys> todd_: yes, though it's not the easiest app
[01:26] <archman> matthias: advanced desktop effets
[01:26] <matthias> no does not show up let me restart the computer and see if appears ...
[01:26] <Darkmystere> willis_: Can you tell me where to get a bootable version of Partion magic if it leads to that because i moved a partion under the extended before anyways the extended is partion magics work..
[01:26] <todd_> prince_jammys: all I want to do is "trim" movies is there a better one?
[01:27] <prince_jammys> todd_: there's also kdenlive (kde based) and some more. i forget the main one for gnome
[01:27] <willis_> Darkmystere,  take partition magic and throw it in the trash.  - go get one of the 'gparted' live cd's
[01:27] <Pirate_Hunter> bye, adios, chiao, xiao, adeus, etc - well im gone for now until whenever I log back on
[01:27] <hischild> Jordan_U, did you get the last message about splash and quiet not giving any info?
[01:27] <todd_> prince_jammys: thanks! :-)
[01:27] <willis_> Darkmystere,  i have not used partition magic in years..  i consider it a rip off. :)
[01:27] <prince_jammys> todd_: pitivi
[01:27] <Pirate_Hunter> willis_: nice way to put it :D
[01:27] <matthias> archman found it compizconfig manager ...
[01:27] <Darkmystere> willis_: nty....partion magic is fine... gparted too difficult lol it killed my windows !
[01:27] <prince_jammys> !info pitivi | todd_
[01:27] <ubotu> todd_: pitivi (source: pitivi): non-linear audio/video editor using GStreamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[01:27] <willis_> Darkmystere,  if gparted killed your windows.. its somthing YOU did. :)
[01:27] <Jordan_U> hischild, No
[01:27] <archman> LAsT: then make install, maybe you will need to sudo -s
[01:27] <Darkmystere> willis_: and i thank it for that but still....
[01:28] <Darkmystere> willis_: took 3.8gigs off the end of windows partion.. after defragmenting windows 7 times..
[01:28] <Darkmystere> well cya..
[01:28] <hischild> Jordan_U, ok ... in that case: i did try that before on this install. It didn't give any info and still went into reboot
[01:28] <Mrlost> Can Kiba Dock be on Ubuntu Gusty Gibbon ????
[01:28] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[01:28] <willis_> Darkmystere,  Hmm.. gparted dosent defrag as far as i know. - at least not that ive seen.  But yur mileage may vary.
[01:28] <Jordan_U> hischild, try reverting the gdm_disabled, then ( from recovery mode ) run "invoke-rc.d gdm start"
[01:29] <todd_> prince_jammys: I have pitivi, not seeing where there is any edit capability
[01:29] <hischild> Jordan_U, will do
[01:29] <archman> guys is there any alternative to ccsm?
[01:29] <prince_jammys> todd_: i've never used it. kdenlive or avidemux are worth a shot.
[01:30] <hischild> Jordan_U, starts fine
[01:30] <Mrlost> Can Kiba Dock be on Ubuntu Gusty Gibbon ???? if someone has a awnser pls go to #MrLost
[01:30] <Jordan_U> hischild, And you can log in?
[01:30] <hischild> Jordan_U, untill i login ... not long after it goes into reboot
[01:30] <alsadk> i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57648/
[01:30] <todd_> prince_jammys: Have you used either of thoes?
[01:31] <solexious> [Q] Hi im trying to install the steam game server on my ubuntu bx but the install file is a .bin and im not sure how to use it to instal the server...
[01:31] <matthias> everybody are there any program to remove smurf effects from the ubuntus movie pöayer ???
[01:31] <hischild> solexious, look at www.srcds.com :-)
[01:31] <matthias> player ...
[01:31] <prince_jammys> todd_: very little. avidemux is kind of a pain, though it probably does the best job.  kdenlive is more intuitive
[01:31] <rhineheart_m> can you recommend DMZ setting to ubuntu box?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> hischild, What if you log in in failsafe mode, or terminal mode ( whatever it's called, doesn't start gnome at all just gives you an xterm window )
[01:31] <puff> rhineheart_m: DMZ settings?
[01:31] <rhineheart_m> puff: yeah
[01:32] <puff> rhineheart_m: Meaning?
[01:32] <todd_> prince_jammys: what is the command to install stuff again???
[01:32] <hischild> Jordan_U, failsafe mode? xterm window? those things are new ...
[01:32] <archman> alsadk: can't you go with make?
[01:32] <Jordan_U> hischild, You can get more login options by clicking on "session"
[01:32] <alsadk> no
[01:32] <todd_> prince_jammys: what is the command to install stuff again??? I tried apt install avidemux and no go
[01:32] <prince_jammys> todd_: kdenlive *may* require that you also install a few extra libraries, but that shouldn't be problem.  sudo apt-get install kdenlive avidemux     <--would install them both
[01:33] <hischild> Jordan_U, very well, will try
[01:33] <matthias> archman the option for video player does not contain too much of setting for video playback ...
[01:33] <todd_> prince_jammys: apt-get thanks!
[01:33] <puff> rhineheart_m: The usage of the term "DMZ" that I'm familiar with is where you set up a semi-public network that you put your public webservers on.  Effectively you have:   internal net <-> internal firewall <-> DMZ server <-> external firewall <-> public internet.
[01:33] <archman> matthias: dunno......
[01:33] <puff> rhineheart_m: Is this what yo're talking about?
[01:33] <matthias> okey, thank you any way archman ...
[01:33] <matthias> you did your best ...
[01:33] <archman> matthias: welcome!!!
[01:34] <puff> rhineheart_m: You may find more #ubuntu-server more helpful, but I don't know if they would have anything specific to say.
[01:34] <ClintZ28> oss-linux package is in a bad start for me...I can't uninstall it...it complains about some files in /usr/lib/oss/build not being present, but if I place these files here, it removes them and complains anyway...how can I force this package to uninstall so that I can reinstall it?
[01:34] <solexious> [Q] Hi im trying to install the steam game server on my ubuntu bx but the install file is a .bin and im not sure how to use a .bin file to instal it...
[01:34] <rhineheart_m> puff: yeah.. that's what I meant..
[01:34] <aib> Wifi Radar sees lots of networks, but doesn't give me the option to connect to any of them. here's a picture: http://imagebin.ca/view/P_gftLr.html
[01:34] <mysterycool> hmmm
[01:34] <jinx099> solexious, just try ./bin.bin
[01:34] <puff> rhineheart_m: As for an SSL cert, you can generate and issue your own SSL cert, but users will see a popup saying that the CA (Certificate Authority) is not a known CA (the browsers come with known CA certs installed).
[01:35] <hischild> Jordan_U, i'm almsot starting to think that my gfx card is blowing this whole story ... :(
[01:35] <puff> rhineheart_m: Maybe check the known CA certs in the firefox browser, see if they list a free CA.
[01:35] <solexious> jinx: tried it :s
[01:35] <aib> does anyone know what the problem could be?
[01:35] <hischild> Jordan_U, since no ... i can't
[01:35] <jinx099> solexious, is it executable by you?
[01:35] <rhineheart_m> puff: thanks puff for that explanation. how about the DMZ thing?
[01:35] <archman> aib: maybe shutting down the interface and then up?
[01:35] <hischild> solexious, go to www.srcds.com and click on linux. They have a perfect guide on how to install a steam game server
[01:36] <mysterycool> alanhaggai
[01:36] <alanhaggai> mysterycool, hi.
[01:36] <aib> archman, i've rebooted already..
[01:36] <Lame> been testing out the daily builds, and for some reason pidgin will crash not long after using it, has been an issue for the last 3 daily builds i believe
[01:36] <mysterycool> alanhaggai: lol hi :p
[01:36] <archman> aib:...
[01:36] <Lame> and by the way, love the wallpaper :D
[01:36] <solexious> jinx: no, tried to chmod it but got chmod: missing operand after `hldsupdatetool.bin'
[01:36] <puff> rhineheart_m: I don't have nor know of a standard set of recommendations for a DMZ.  The generally standard recommendation is to run only exactly what you need.
[01:37] <alsadk> i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57648/
[01:37] <hischild> solexious, chmod + x hldsupdatetool.bin
[01:37] <puff> rhineheart_m: #security might help, too.
[01:37] <jinx099> solexious, "chmod 755 hldsupdatetool.bin"
[01:37] <aib> i've done basic troubleshooting steps. my wifi card is detected automatically. i purchased it because it has a reputation of working on linux
[01:37] <rhineheart_m> puff: okay. but it is an added security right?
[01:37] <matthias> jordan od you have any clue on how to get rid of the smurf effect in movie player
[01:37] <Jordan_U> hischild, Doesn't sound like a problem with the GFX card since you can get to the GDM screen
[01:37] <Lame> busy in here lol
[01:37] <zero88> Can anyone spare some of their time and help me with a wireless issue please?
[01:38] <zero88> Any wireless Gurus here?
[01:38] <archman> zero88: what's the prob?
[01:38] <mysterycool> Lame: lol love ur nick :D
[01:38] <rhineheart_m> puff: the internet cannot access the private network if the DMZ has been enabled and all ports have been forwarded to one computer
[01:38] <puff> rhineheart_m: I am not sure what you mean.  The only use of "DMZ" in this context that I know of is as a general security concept, I don't know of a particular DMZ package or setting or anything.
[01:38] <Devourer> If I switch users will any of my programs on the current user disappear?
[01:38] <hischild> Jordan_U, hmm ... you have an alternate idea? i'm willing to give hardy a shot ... (it's only 2,40 am here, so yeah i've got time :P )
[01:38] <Lame> haha thanks mystercool
[01:38] <zero88> archman well, lets see
[01:38] <solexious> got it, thank you both
[01:38] <Lame> yours aint so bad either
[01:38] <mysterycool> Lame: no really its really cool ;)
[01:38] <puff> rhineheart_m: Ask on #ubuntu-server.
[01:38] <rhineheart_m> puff: I am talking about demilitarized zone
[01:38] <Lame> lol
[01:38] <zero88> archman,  Im using ndiswrapper with my driver. I am able to scan and see networks but cannot connect
[01:38] <n2diy> Devourer: no, but the new user may not be able to access them.
[01:39] <macabro22> Hello
[01:39] <matthias> zero 88: do you have ssid invisible ???
[01:39] <Devourer> n2diy, how do I make a new user?
[01:39] <puff> rhineheart_m: yes, I know what DMZ means, and like I said, I'm familiar with usijng the term in discussing network security, but only as a general term.
[01:39] <archman> zero88: try using wifi-radar
[01:39] <zero88> archman, Ive tried everything, from taking off the WEP to changing the name of my wireless network
[01:39] <Jordan_U> hischild, Hardy can only be a solution if you are willing to live with the many other problems it might cause ( and be without support since it's still not released )
[01:39] <stormze1> wow.. I had no idea an nvidia card could be so hard to set up...
[01:39] <matthias> sorry archman but maybe i can help a ibt ...
[01:39] <zero88> archman have done that too
[01:39] <n2diy> Devourer: via the command line, or gui?
[01:39] <hischild> Jordan_U, ofcourse i'd prefer it if i could get 7.10 to work ... but i'm lost as to the cause ...
[01:39] <Scorp|on^> :>
[01:40] <Devourer> n2diy, command line I guess.
[01:40] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey people. How do I pipe a command to be executed. I have a complex command that basically outputs a command. I want that command to get executed. What do I pipe to, to execute literally what is being piped? Like say find . -type f -printf "something complicated"
[01:40] <zero88> archman theres something missing somewhere
[01:40] <macabro22> I am willing to compile the latest alsa drivers but I am wondering if there's a place I can get a precompiled deb package for the version 1.0.16 instead
[01:40] <hischild> stormze1, you're talking about my box?
[01:40] <n2diy> Devourer: adduser
[01:40] <Devourer> n2diy, thanks.
[01:40] <puff> zero88: Are you testing this with an access point that you control?
[01:40] <LjL-Temp> loquitus_of_borg, well, "find" has an -exec option that you can use instead of -printf
[01:40] <macabro22> anyone?
[01:40] <stormze1> I need help setting up the nvidia drivers.  Everything I've tried has resulted in either a blank screen, or very large screen resolution.
[01:40] <zero88> puff yes that is correct
[01:40] <LjL-Temp> loquitus_of_borg: but generally speaking, typing $(command) results in the output of command being executed as a command
[01:40] <loquitus_of_borg> LjL-Temp: except it does not give me alot of flexibility in how to format the filename.
[01:40] <Jordan_U>  hischild Has it always been doing this since you installed?
[01:41] <n2diy> macabro22: google?
[01:41] <Lame> anyone else trying the daily builds?
[01:41] <archman> twas a pleasure, gusy, good night...
[01:41] <billenium> !LAMP
[01:41] <puff> zero88: Okay, wanted to eliminate other possible culprits first :-).
[01:41] <zero88> puff I cant set my wlan0 essid without associating with the network.
[01:41] <IanLiu> I can see my Windows Network, but when I enter my "Home" group, I get "The Folder could not be displayed". Why is that??
[01:41] <macabro22> n2diy tried that already... no luck
[01:41] <zero88> puff :)
[01:41] <puff> zero88: Can you connect to this access point with a different computer?
[01:41] <hischild> Jordan_U, i've installed it fine with a radeon x1300 since the installer of the alternate cd and the live cd died during install cq boot
[01:41] <zero88> puff ya thhis is the third day straight doing his
[01:41] <zero88> puff yes i can
[01:41] <puff> zero88: Why is that a problem (assocating with a network)?
[01:42] <zero88> puff I cant obtain an ip
[01:42] <n2diy> macabro22: hmmm
[01:42] <matthias> zero88: do you use ssid invisible or what ???
[01:42] <Devourer> How do I become root?
[01:42] <matthias> su root
[01:42] <zero88> matthias nope
[01:42] <Starnestommy> Devourer: sudo
[01:42] <hischild> !sudo
[01:42] <psycholvlan> sudo -i
[01:42] <n2diy> Devourer: sudo adduser
[01:42] <Scorp|on^> « VLC » « John.Rambo.2008.PROPER.CUSTOM.SWESUB.WORKPRINT.NTSC.DVDR-TEAMSWEDEN/j.rambo-tsweden.img »« 0:00:36 / 1:30:54 »
[01:42] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:42] <hischild> wut?
[01:42] <Devourer> Thanks.
[01:42] <alsadk> i have a problem on compile a program take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57648/
[01:42] <Jordan_U> hischild, Can you clarify that last comment?
[01:42] <puff> Devourer: Generally speaking, you don't, on ubuntu.  It is generally dis-recommended.  If you really need to, "sudo bash"
[01:42] <matthias> what wirelesss card you have ?
[01:42] <hischild> ubotu is rather busy
[01:43] <Devourer> Oh.
[01:43] <IanLiu> I can see my Windows Network, but when I enter my "Home" group, I get "The Folder could not be displayed". Why is that?
[01:43] <zero88> matthias im using the Realtek RTL8187b driver
[01:43] <puff> zero88: So, first thing, "iwlist wlan0 scan"
[01:43] <macabro22> n2diy: I read somewhere hardy will have it by default. Can I somehow fetch it from hardy's repo?
[01:43] <matthias> ahh okey i hade a similar problem but on broadcom wireless minicard ...
[01:43] <LAsT> хайлайт
[01:43] <zero88> puff i can scan and do see other networks other then my own
[01:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[01:44] <puff> zero88: Okay, paste it to pastebin and give us the URL.
[01:44] <hischild> Jordan_U, yes i can. I have tried multiple times to install ubuntu using both the alternate disc and the live cd. Both have failed. The alternate cd died during installation, shortly after selecting resolutions. The live cd dies while it tries to boot, much alike my current system does
[01:44] <n2diy> Devourer: don't know, I'm running Dapper 6.06
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is rather busy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <loquitus_of_borg> People... basically I am trying to execute the following for every file found: find somedir1/ -type f -printf 'cmp "%p" "somedir2/%f"\n'
[01:44] <zero88> puff k
[01:44] <Devourer> n2diy, cool. :)
[01:44] <puff> zero88: You're sure your access point doesn't have any sort of mac filtering on?
[01:44] <khalood> can I partition my disc first before using uNetbootin ?
[01:44] <Jordan_U> hischild, So how did you install the current system in the first place?
[01:44] <puff> zero88: And you're sure you're close enough to the access point?  Sometimes you can hear the access point, but the access point can't hear you.
[01:44] <zero88> puff mmm not sure what you mean, but ive been able to connect before
[01:44] <khalood> because i'm afraid of making some thing wrong and loose my data
[01:45] <zero88> puff ya 5 feet away
[01:45] <puff> Have you been able to connect before using this same hardware?
[01:45] <zero88> !pastebin
[01:45] <hischild> Jordan_U, switched my gfx card out with a radeon x1300, then installed it with that gfx card ... and then later on switched the nvidia one back
[01:45] <zero88> pastebin!
[01:45] <zero88> wheres the pastebin link
[01:45] <n2diy> zero88: puff, it is possible to be _to_ close.
[01:45] <Devourer> What is a root number?
[01:45] <matthias> zero88 seems to me like either the driver is not the correct one or ndiswrapper or the other file installed at the same time is not there
[01:45] <zero88> n2diy are you serious
[01:46] <zero88> matthias its the right one
[01:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:46] <n2diy> zero88: absolutely, it is called front end overload.
[01:46] <speeddemon8803> zero88, be patient as the bot just got reset ;)
[01:46] <speeddemon8803> there it is :)
[01:46] <zero88> speeddemon8803, haha k
[01:46] <khalood> can I partition my hard first before using uNetbootin ?
[01:46] <prince_jammys> loquitus_of_borg: #bash
[01:46] <zero88> n2diy was not aware of that
[01:47] <n2diy> zero88: a reciever is designed to listen for microwatts, if your close, you may be a hundred or a thousand times that.
[01:47] <prince_jammys> loquitus_of_borg: you'll probably need find -exec.  go to #bash and type !find
[01:47] <zero88> n2diy i see
[01:47] <zero88> puff http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57654/
[01:47] <Jordan_U> hischild, File a bug report, then try the hardy install CD and file another bug report :) ( I have noticed that the bug reports that I have filed against a development release are more likely to be fixed by the next stable release than those filed against the current stable, not sure if that is normal though )
[01:48] <speeddemon8803> Oh, and zero88, Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:48] <LjL-Temp> loquitus_of_borg: if $() doesn't work, then you can always "find .... | sh"
[01:48] <zero88> speeddemon8803,  ya i did
[01:48] <speeddemon8803> thats what !pastebin would tell you to go to for paste.
[01:48] <zero88> speeddemon8803,  :)
[01:48] <hischild> Jordan_U, yeah ... i'll do that ...
[01:48] <speeddemon8803> its in the topic if you ever get the bot go missing and you want to know what our pastebin site is :)
[01:49] <n2diy> zero88: it's like sitting in front of a fire, versus sitting _in_ the fire.
[01:49] <zero88> n2diy whyle being connected with the ethernet cable, would i still be able to obtain a IP wirelessly
[01:49] <Jordan_U> zero88, Yes
[01:49] <zero88> Jordan_U, thanks
[01:49] <purge_kdewallet> i am unable to purge kde wallet, i tried removing .kde/share/config/k*wallet* and nothing is working, can someone help me (its not in synaptic either)?
[01:49] <n2diy> zero88: are you connected to a wireless router?
[01:50] <yao_ziyuan> currently, only one app can take control of my audio playback at a time
[01:50] <yao_ziyuan> how do i make multiple apps mix their sounds at the same time?
[01:50] <Jordan_U> !sound | yao_ziyuan
[01:50] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:51] <zero88> n2diy yes with wires for now
[01:51] <matthias> zero88 what do you see if using sudo ifconfig
[01:51] <matthias> i eman if connected anyway or something ...
[01:52] <Housefly7k> getting an error message whenever I connect an external USB harddrive or Cdrom.... error "you are not privileged to eject this volume"...I click ok and can use the cd/harddrive after tht
[01:52] <n2diy> zero88: ok, you should be able to connect to other machines running wireless cards, but, you won't be able to go from router to router.
[01:52] <Housefly7k> Started recently , any ideas?
[01:52] <zero88> n2diy im sorry, im not sure i understand
[01:53] <zero88> matthias, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57655/ other then my ethernety eth0
[01:53] <mellery> how can i get wine 9.55 to run? it gives me segmentation fault
[01:53] <purge_kdewallet> i am unable to get rid of kde wallet, i tried removing .kde/share/config/k*wallet* and nothing seems to be working, can someone help me (its not in synaptic either)?
[01:53] <bella> hi all
[01:53] <emory> Does anyone know wny Mozilla Thunderbird does not have a drafts folder?  I installed from Gutsy repositories...
[01:53] <n2diy> zero88: That's ok, I'm not sure I do either! :) The way I understand it is routers are servers, and only talk to clients, two servers won't talk to each other.
[01:54] <Devourer> What's a root number? I'm adding a user and it asked me for this.
[01:54] <hischild> Jordan_U, download initiated ...
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> purge_kdewallet: so what does sudo aptitude remove kdewallet do?
[01:54] <zero88> n2diy ok. now what would be the clinet for my wireless
[01:54] <purge_kdewallet> nothing
[01:54] <purge_kdewallet> says its not installed
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> purge_kdewallet: ok, then.. its likely not installe.d
[01:54] <purge_kdewallet> but it keeps bugging me with kpvnc
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[01:54] <hischild> Jordan_U, so should i file a bug report now or shall i wait till i've tried out hardy?
[01:54] <n2diy> zero88: a box with a wireless card.
[01:54] <zero88> puff, still around
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> weird, just another reason to hate KDE i guess..lol
[01:54] <bella> have just installed ubuntu and I am new at this have  an external modem connected number is dialed but doesn't connect any Ideas?
[01:55] <purge_kdewallet> i don't know if it is embedded in another package, do you know the name of the binary under /usr/bin, maybe i can delete it?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> hischild, file now
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> bella: so ubuntu is seeing the modem, and is telling ti to dial?
[01:55] <zero88> n2diy im just really confused on why i can see wireless networks but cant connect to them
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> purge_kdewallet: no cloue.. sorry.. don't use kde.. maybe askin #kubuntu
[01:55] <matthias> zero88: let me get it straight, you can see the Ap but not connect no mather what settings in the router you make ...
[01:55] <purge_kdewallet> ok, thanks
[01:55] <bella> yes indy
[01:56] <zero88> matthias yes thats correct, so im assuming it has something to do on my end other then wireless settings
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> bella: well if you're not connecting, then one would think that your settings for your dialup account are wrong.
[01:56] <n2diy> zero88: are router won't talk to another router. You need a bridge to do that.
[01:56] <hischild> Jordan_U, aight will do
[01:56] <n2diy> are/a
[01:56] <zero88> n2diy ya
[01:56] <bella> but I have used the same settings all along with windows
[01:56] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Does anyone know how to check to see if the broadcom wifi card driver has been installed on my laptop?
[01:56] <Housefly7k> i set a password for root...in my misguided efforts :)... i used "sudo passwd root" i think... any way i can reset this?
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> bella: , thats very strange, sorry, i have no logical explanation for that
[01:57] <matthias> zero88: yes i think you are right, he only problem i hade with mine was change of driver but if you are sure you have the correct driver than there is something else ...
[01:57] <RyanPrior> I try to install updates but it says that there is another synaptic running. However, I don't remember starting anything else. How do I stop the other synaptic?
[01:57] <n2diy> SeanInSeattle: lsmod
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Housefly7k: that wasn't very bright.
[01:57] <matthias> zero88: let me check if i can find anything ...
[01:57] <Housefly7k> IndyGunFreak: yeah... i was following a tutorial online
[01:57] <bella> is ok Indy thanks :)
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> Housefly7k: I think it is "sudo passwd -l root". Maybe someone can confrim?
[01:57] <SeanInSeattle> n2diy:  what should I be looking for there:
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Housefly7k: always trust but verify
[01:58] <zero88> matthias well, on the ndiswrapper site it said for my card that the XP version only lets you see networks,but cant connect. So i installed the 2000 version and it works, but the same issue of not connecting so i wasnt sure if it had the same problem
[01:58] <zero88> matthias ok
[01:58] <n2diy> SeanInSeattle: the make or model of the device
[01:58] <Housefly7k> IndyGunFreak:  can you confirm Odd-rationale suggestion?
[01:58] <matthias> ok
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> Housefly7k: i have no clue
[01:58] <SeanInSeattle> n2diy:  I found the model, and it is listed there.
[01:58] <puff> zero88: Sorry, was in another window.
[01:58] <zero88> puff no problem
[01:58] <SeanInSeattle> Holy crap.  It just works.  That's crazy
 puff http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57654/
[01:58] <n2diy> SeanInSeattle: then the driver/module is loaded
[01:59] <Housefly7k> Odd-rationale: i am gonna google that and see what comes up
[01:59] <SeanInSeattle> I installed a crap load of updates today.
[01:59] <SeanInSeattle> I think that did the trick.
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> Housefly7k: ok
[01:59] <puff> zero88: So which network are you trying to connect to?
[01:59] <SeanInSeattle> Houston, we have wifi, over...
[01:59] <zero88> puff the 2wire
[01:59] <SeanInSeattle> :)
[02:00] <SeanInSeattle> I'm outa here for now.  Gonna go to the coffee shop and surf around the rest of planet earth.
[02:00] <puff> zero88: It's encrypted.
[02:00] <zero88> puff yes
[02:00] <two_bits> What package do I need to install to get man pages for c functions?
[02:00] <zero88> puff and have tried connecting with and without connection
[02:01] <n2diy> two_bits: look for something like c-dev, or gcc-dev
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> Housefly7k: I'm an Arch user. We have to install sudo manually (if we want sudo). This is what we do: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_root_password_and_gain_su_sudo_with_no_password
[02:01] <zero88> puff encrption i mean
[02:01] <Housefly7k> Odd-rationale: google has 0 results for "sudo passwd -l root"
[02:02] <orbisvicis> !dns
[02:02] <ubotu> DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.
[02:02] <Odd-rationale> Housefly7k: see step 2.4
[02:02] <matthias> zero88 can you issue iwconfig wlan0
[02:02] <two_bits> n2diy: thanks
[02:02] <orbisvicis> really helpful ubotu
[02:02] <puff> zero88: Have you ever gotten ubuntu, etc, working with this network, as it is now configured?  Also, you never answered my question:  Have you been able to connect before using this same hardware?
[02:02] <Odd-rationale> Housefly7k: I would assume this would be similar to ubuntu, but not 100% sure...
[02:03] <orbisvicis> i seem to have killed dns ... how can i fix it ?
[02:03] <orbisvicis> so no web browsing for now
[02:03] <zero88> puff yes i have on my other gateway, this is a newer version with a different card . its the realtek one. when i first installed ndiswrapper and the driver, i rebooted and it worked. but after that it hasnt sence.
[02:03] <zero88> matthias yes
[02:04] <matthias> zero88 can you give me the output ...
[02:04] <tanner> what package do i need to compile Qt applications?
[02:04] <zero88> matthias http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57656/
[02:05] <matthias> zero88: thanks let me see ...
[02:05] <orbisvicis> no i seem to have destroyed dhcp as well ... how can i fix it ?
[02:05] <orbisvicis> !dhcp
[02:05] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[02:05] <RyanPrior> I am trying to install updates but it says that there is another synaptic running. However, I don't remember starting anything else. How do I stop the other synaptic?
[02:06] <whoyane> 什么
[02:06] <zero88> ryanproir system monitor
[02:06] <Mba7eth> i have just configured my eth interface as static ip .... using ifconfig. I want to return it back to dhcp ?
[02:06] <RyanPrior> zero88: It doesn't show up on the system monitor.
[02:07] <n2diy> RyanPrior: in a terminal type synaptic, does it tell which pid is already running?
[02:07] <zero88> mba7eth go to admin>network
[02:07] <netron1234> ps -ef | grep -i "synaptic"
[02:07] <Mba7eth> zero88 - i wanna do it using ifconfig :) , just curius
[02:07] <netron1234> then kill the synaptic process
[02:07] <whoyane> how can i control the panel
[02:08] <matthias> zero88: i have no idea atthis moment, i will be back ...
[02:08] <matthias> hungry :)
[02:08] <RyanPrior> n2diy: yeah, it shows two of them running.
[02:08] <zero88> mba7eth i beleive its something like ifconfig dhclient eth0
[02:08] <whoyane> i just chat online
[02:08] <zero88> matthias lol its ok, ive had a handfull of people helping but its crazyness
[02:09] <n2diy> RyanPrior: Two!? Hmmm, write done there pid's, then enter top, when top opens, press k, then enter the pid you want to kill, and then 9
[02:09] <RyanPrior> n2diy: I killed them with signal 7 instead.
[02:09] <spirithands> Hello.  Does anyone in here have an ATI HD 2600 PCIe?  I got the newest x64 fglrx drivers to work so i can have full-resolution, but nothing 3D works.. such as glxgears
[02:10] <n2diy> RyanPrior: did they die?
[02:10] <RyanPrior> n2diy: Yes, they did.
[02:10] <n2diy> RyanPrior: Then you should be good to go.
[02:10] <Mba7eth> zero88 - it didnt work :(
[02:10] <RyanPrior> n2diy: Now it says I have 2 broken packages. :-\
[02:11] <Mba7eth> anyone ... how to bring config back an interface to dhcp using ifconfig ?
[02:11] <Devourer> What is the /opt directory for?
[02:11] <neil_d> I have written a gtk C program, what should I like too, to get it to compile ?
[02:11] <RyanPrior> Devourer: it's there to confuse you.
[02:12] <Devourer> RyanPrior, it has done it's job. :D
[02:12] <zero88> mba7eth i think you have to change the /etc/netowrk/interfaces file
[02:12] <RyanPrior> neil_d: You can use gcc to compile it. Install the package build-essential.
[02:12] <Starnestommy> neil_d: is libgtk2.0-dev installed?
[02:12] <n2diy> RyanPrior: Well, reinstall them. I don't know how, or why, you could of had two version of Synaptic running at the same time.
[02:13] <zero88> mba7eth try sudo ifconfig eth0 dhcp, then sudo ifdown eth0, sudo ifup eth0
[02:13] <zero88> mba7eth assuming your interface is eth0
[02:13] <Devourer> neil_d, you would probably want to use pkg-config as well.
[02:14] <zero88> mba7eth also doing it like that only sets it for the current session
[02:15] <Mba7eth> zero88 Just want it for this session :)
[02:15] <zero88> did it work
[02:15] <RyanPrior> n2diy: Thanks for the suggestion - I was hoping to find a way to use synaptic to find out what the problem was, but killing them worked out okay in the end.
[02:15] <neil_d> Starnestommy: yes
[02:16] <Mba7eth> zero88 brb :) one moment
[02:16] <zero88> mba7eth k
[02:16] <neil_d> Devourer: ok, what args should I pass to pkg-config
[02:16] <n2diy> RyanPrior: Roger that. It's still a puzzle how you could have started two versions of synaptic, the system shouldn't let you do that.
[02:17] <Devourer> neil_d, gcc -std=c99 -Wall -g main.c -o helloworld $$(pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0) $$(pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0)
[02:17] <Devourer> neil_d, it would actually by $(...) instead of $$(...)
[02:17] <Devourer> be*
[02:18] <yo> can anyone help me with setting up a LAN between a windows and ubuntu pc?
[02:19] <IanLiu> How do I get my printer address? I can access my windows with smb://192.168.0.135, but How can I retrieve my Printer address (which is plugged on my Windows PC)?
[02:19] <yo> lanLiu: hold the power button on the printer?
[02:19] <yo> lanLiu: it should print a page with all the info you need..
[02:20] <IanLiu> Another question: I can access my Windows LAN from smb://PC.IP.ADDRESS, but when I try to access from Places > Network, I get an error...
[02:21] <neil_d> Devourer: I don't seem to have the correct gtk*.pc file !  where would I get that ?
[02:21] <billy> can someone help me with setting up a LAN network between a windows and ubuntu comp?
[02:21] <matias> Hello, Someone knows where I have to copy java library??
[02:22] <Devourer> neil_d, did you get libgtk2.0-dev?
[02:22] <Devourer> neil_d, I don't really know. I downloaded the library and typed that into the console and it compiled.
[02:22] <puff> How do I restart gnome/x from the shell?
[02:23] <matias> someone has try asterisk-java==
[02:23] <neil_d> puff: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:23] <hischild> Jordan_U, installation initiated of hardy :-)
[02:23] <mop> hello all, i need help to configure wifi, because is the first time i plug the card and i don't know what i do after that :) , anyone can help me ?
[02:23] <puff> matias: Thanks... gnome/x froze up on me.  DAngit.
[02:24] <puff> zero88: Okay, so next question, have you ever connected to a WPA network with your current hardware/release?
[02:24] <stormze1> Anyone know how to get the nvidia drivers working with an Nvidia 7950 GT card?
[02:25] <ph0rensic> stormze1, use the restricted manager
[02:25] <puff> zero88: Wait, rereading what you said, it sounds like you have the same PC, newer access point, and also anew network card (in the PC?)
[02:25] <stormze1> ph0rensic: Doesn't work.
[02:25] <matthias> mop: what have you done so far ?
[02:26] <sunogbaga> !root
[02:26] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:27] <sunogbaga> !root account
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root account - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <mop> matthias, b4 i was working with wired lan and this is easy for me, today i want to convert to wifi, i get access point + pci cards, i plug pci into the system and i don't know if i need to configure anything or what
[02:27] <Kuwanger> Hello.  I'd like to crop an 8-bit png image from the command line without the palette changing.  What's the simplest program to do this with?
[02:27] <eshaase> does ubuntu come pre-installed with any type of vnc software?
[02:27] <ph0rensic> stormze1, why not? I had that card before... and it worked
[02:27] <Cpudan80> eshaase: Yes
[02:27] <zero88> puff no only a WEP wich is mine, but i do have the option of WPA, and yes connected only once, untill a reboot and havent been able to sence
[02:27] <stormze1> Hmm.. that might be a clue.  I take it you had it for a previous version of the driver?
[02:27] <Bibbie> is there a terminal command to monitor tempature of hardware?
[02:28] <Cpudan80> eshaase: You've got a vncviewer (tight-vnc compatible) you can use --- as a server, there is an easy way to set it up
[02:28] <stormze1> ph0rensic: Could be complicated by the fact that my display is DVI?
[02:28] <CarlFK> anyone know of a deb for http://www.video4linux.org/browser/v4l2-apps ?
[02:29] <ph0rensic> stormze1, No shouldn't be .. perhaps there may be a setting in xorg for that ..
[02:29] <stormze1> ph0rensic: As far as I know, I've got it in there already.
[02:29] <ph0rensic> stormze1, what happens exactly??
[02:30] <matthias_> mog: sorry my computer turned off for some reason
[02:30] <prasanna> hey guys, tryin to figure out how to fix this bug on hardy
[02:30] <prasanna> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libxklavier12_3.4-2_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/libxklavier/xfree86.xml', which is also in package libxklavier11
[02:30] <matthias_> but i am here ..
[02:30] <matthias_> mog: what router do you have ?
[02:30] <stormze1> I'm stuck in low res display, not using the nvidia driver.
[02:30] <mop> matthias_, wb
[02:30] <nickrud> prasanna: you should bring it up in #ubuntu+1, if those are both ubuntu packages it's a bug
[02:31] <mop> matthias_, i asking what configuration i need to do because i have no experience with wifi
[02:31] <Cpudan80> Does anyone know if the color schemes for ubuntu have been decided on?
[02:31] <stormze1> ph0rensic: Hmm.. . this doesn't look promising: (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation unknown chipset (0x0295) rev 161
[02:31] <matthias_> okey, well to startwith what router do you have ?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> hischild, LiveCD or alternate installation ( answer in #ubuntu+1 since this channel is only for stable version support )
[02:31] <ph0rensic> stormze1, that happened to me once of the 5 times I've installed it. What I did was uninstall the nvidia driver making sure it was a complete removal, reconfigure the xorg and then reinstall the nvidia driver...
[02:31] <ph0rensic> stormze1, no that doesnt
[02:32] <eshaase> Cpudan80: VNC server software comes pre-installed with ubuntu?
[02:32] <tanner> whats the command to update the location of libraries? ldconfig?
[02:32] <mop> matthias_, currently i work with wired lan with netgear router, and i buy netgear access point WG602 , + netgear pci 311
[02:32] <speeddemon8803> !vnc > eshaase
[02:32] <Creationist> Could someone recommend a decent program that plays .midi files?
[02:32] <Cpudan80> speeddemon8803: that factoid is wrong
[02:32] <speeddemon8803> ah, well nevermind the private message then :)
[02:32] <Cpudan80> eshaase: Yes, it comes preinstalled, just do system --> remote desktop
[02:32] <s2a> wats better? vmware or virtualbox?
[02:33] <Cpudan80> Do not follow the !vnc factoid
[02:33] <Cpudan80> It doesnt work right
[02:33] <matthias_> okey well 1:st off you need to configure wireless by entering the wireless rputers homepage by its default ip address ...
[02:33] <puff> neil_d: Hm, gdm restart didn't work.  The screen still has a messed up screen redraw on it.  Anything else I should try before I reboot?
[02:33] <J-a-K-e> can anyone help me troubleshoot banshee. It freezes at the "loading user interface" dialog when i try to star it
[02:33] <mop> matthias_, i didn't configure access point yet , i start to plug pci card and i want to know from where i have to start
[02:33] <hischild> Jordan_U, you've got your answer :-)
[02:33] <matthias_> you need to connect an cable between the computer and the wireless router ...
[02:33] <Cpudan80> http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/ is a better guide
[02:34] <Itaku> !vnc | Itaku
[02:34] <neil_d> puff: a <ctrl><alt><backspace> couldn't hurt
[02:34] <pat_> ??
[02:34] <J-a-K-e> have tried removing and adding again through add remove programs and synaptic package manager but no luck
[02:34] <speeddemon8803> guys, cpudan80 just said not to follow !vnc as it didnt work right.
[02:35] <mop> yes, matthias_ yes, the router already configured and working, i have to configure Access point, this i can read and follow, in structions my question related to the pci card, should i do anything on the computer ?
[02:35] <pat_> who can tell me how to install minitab on unbuntu 6.06
[02:35] <eshaase> Cpudan80: but it comes disabled?
[02:35] <ph0rensic> s2a, they are both good
[02:35] <Cpudan80> eshaase: Yes
[02:35] <crow> how do I compile simple c++ programs?
[02:35] <J-a-K-e> anyone?
[02:35] <matthias_> yes check 1:st to see if ubunto find the wireless card and if it can install the driver for it or you have likethe rest of us look for drivers to the card ...
[02:36] <speeddemon8803> s2a, personal preference, you would have to try both to see what suits you better.
[02:36] <matthias_> go to ..
[02:36] <Cpudan80> crow: g++ file.cpp -o myExecutable
[02:36] <ph0rensic> s2a, Give virtualbox a go first IMO
[02:36] <Cpudan80> crow: you need the build-essential package
[02:36] <s2a> speeddemon8803, ph0rensic, i have dial-up and am almost done downloading virtual box...i was just asking and hoping u ppl said virtual box lol
[02:36] <speeddemon8803> I agree with ph0rensic, virtualbox usually suits a lot of people..vmware can get kinda cranky.
[02:36] <matthias_> system->administration.>restricted drivers manager and see if your card appears there ..
[02:37] <prasanna> is there a set of keys that causes an automatic log off?
[02:37] <s2a> my problem is i need virtual xp to see 250 gb external hd
[02:37] <puff> neil_d: ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't do anything at the machine's keyboard;  I'm ssh'ed in from another machine.
[02:37] <speeddemon8803> s2a, we did :P
[02:37] <s2a> usb
[02:37] <prasanna> cause i've been typing, pressed a few keys (shift and something) thats logged me off
[02:37] <hischild> s2a, virtualbox is a lot friendlier and easier to use then vmware, who can be a real pain in the ass to install properly
[02:37] <ph0rensic> s2a, why ? I doubt it will see it if your host isn't seeing it
[02:37] <mop> matthias_, unfortunately i don't have X, i work though consol
[02:37] <ph0rensic> s2a, it probably just isn't mounting
[02:37] <s2a> ph0rensic, my host sees it no problem
[02:38] <billy> when i ping my windows comp from my ubuntu comp, the packages go thru the LAN cable connecting them both, and when i ping from the wireless, nothing comes through, but when i turn off wireless and ping, neither go through...
[02:38] <ph0rensic> s2a, Oh ok,
[02:38] <tyreth> I just installed 7.10 server version on a sata drive.  I have an IDE drive attached, but I can't see any /dev/hda* files.  Why would they be missing - is there some ide software I need to install?
[02:38] <s2a> ph0rensic, so..any help plz :)
[02:38] <mop> matthias_, when lspci the card appear
[02:39] <neil_d> puff: I dont know of anything else.  how are you viewing the computer?  VNC ?
[02:39] <Enigma0> is there a partition on the ide drive tyreth
[02:39] <puff> neil_d: ssh.
[02:39] <tyreth> Enigma0, yes, Knoppix picks it up
[02:39] <ph0rensic> s2a, with what?
[02:39] <Enigma0> is it ntfs?
[02:39] <billy> help?
[02:39] <tyreth> Enigma0, but there's no hd* in /dev
[02:39] <tyreth> ext3 I believe
[02:40] <Enigma0> then it should see it
[02:40] <puff> neil_d: I have a laptopn, thinkpad t43p running ubuntu, that's experiencing this problem.  I have run into it sevearl times since upgrading to gutsy.  Previously I held down the power key for 4 seconds to force reboot. This time around I decided to try ssh'ing in from a PC I also have, which worked.
[02:40] <invitado> hi! somebody knows if there are problems with CUPS on Gutsy?
[02:40] <s2a> ph0rensic, i want virtualbox to see my 250 gb hd so i can use windows software that doesnt work with wine bcuz i have a skool project and need to use a windows app to make video files into iso for dvd that can be burnt, i tried linux apps and all had some sort of problem
[02:40] <tyreth> Enigma0, exactly, which is why I'm here asking why it's not there
[02:40] <matthias_> what do you see if typing suod iwconfig wlan0
[02:40] <puff> neil_d: Oh, I disabled compiz.
[02:40] <matthias_> sudo
[02:40] <parmenides> I am in need of some installation help with an old server that fails to install please
[02:40] <crow> thanks alot guys
[02:40] <kurtis> i turned off my screen saver, but for some reason after 5 or 10 minutes of inactivity my screen goes black and I have to jiggle my mouse to get the screen back. Its kind of irritating when watching movies. any suggestions?
[02:41] <ChaosMachine> Just so I am clear, I cannot delete/write anything to my mounted NTFS drive from ubuntu?
[02:41] <mop> matthias_,  ndiswrapper -l result ( fwlan : driver installed , netwg11t : driver installed , wg311v3 : driver installed )
[02:41] <speeddemon8803> parmenides, what is it doing exactly..more info is definately needed.
[02:41] <ph0rensic> s2a, Oh i see.. umm i think you can mount a folder as a drive
[02:41] <willis_> ChaosMachine,  i read/wtite ntfs all the time.
[02:41] <parmenides> is an old server with scsi array
[02:41] <s2a> well can i have step by step instructions plz cuz im very very very very desperate
[02:41] <ph0rensic> s2a, which the drive will be a folder under ubuntu (which is a file ...)
[02:41] <ChaosMachine> willis_, ah, how do you go about doing that?
[02:41] <parmenides> fails on every type of ubuntu install
[02:42] <speeddemon8803> !enter > parmenides
[02:42] <willis_> !ntfs-3g | ChaosMachine,
[02:42] <ubotu> ChaosMachine,: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:42] <speeddemon8803> parmenides, please see your private messages, thanks.
[02:42] <s2a> ph0rensic, ok but how do i do that?
[02:42] <mop> matthias_ iwconfig wlan0 > wlan0     No such device
[02:42] <Adylas> Hello ! When installing Gusty on my machine, I did sellect french as language. The OS is in french but not Ooo and thunderbird + others. Why ?
[02:43] <ChaosMachine> willis_, thank you, I'll go ahead and read.
[02:43] <Creationist> How can I play .midi files in Linux?
[02:43] <paddygman> Hi all
[02:43] <willis_> ChaosMachine,  i just instgall/run the ntfs-config tool.
[02:43] <tyreth> wow, haven't seen .midi in a while.  does xmms work for it?
[02:43] <ph0rensic> s2a, ok one sec lemme look
[02:43] <matthias_> mop so either the wireless is not activated but how to activate it from terminal window , hmmm, let me check ...
[02:43] <speeddemon8803> tyrenth, i havent seen it in years man.
[02:44] <matthias_> would be a bit easier from the compyter and graphically ...
[02:44] <dhlagers> what's a good warez channel?
[02:44] <s2a> ph0rensic, thx alot
[02:44] <paddygman> Anyone any ideas how to stop a "The Generated cache was invalid" error when installing aps
[02:44] <matthias_> mop: i will do my best ...
[02:44] <speeddemon8803> !offtopic | dhlagers
[02:44] <ubotu> dhlagers: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:44] <s2a> Creationist, doesnt linux automatically find the codecs?
[02:45] <Creationist> s2a: Hmm... not that I'm aware of.
[02:45] <Creationist> s2a: Double clicking the file does nothing but list nothing lol
[02:45] <ph0rensic> s2a, no you have to download many codecs because they are non-free
[02:45] <s2a> Creationist, which version u using bcuz 7.04 and 7.10 do
[02:45] <gunblade> hello
[02:45] <parmenides> I can type a letter speeddemon8803, I do not mind. It gives the wrong bnn value message every time, but I have found the fix for that. noew it hangs and fails to read from the cd. and I installed earlier today with the same cd on a different machine. the only installation I have had work is a debian net install. am I missing something with the scsi array that is messing this up?
[02:45] <Creationist> s2a: I have 7.10.  Opening in VLC doesn't work either.
[02:45] <ph0rensic> s2a, midi files may be different tho
[02:46] <s2a> Creationist, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53599
[02:46] <matthias_> mop: get on the graphical interface and follow as this page do: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500
[02:46] <gunblade> exit
[02:46] <speeddemon8803> parmenides, sorry to say i have never dealt with scsi devices before.
[02:46] <s2a> Creationist, o nvm
[02:46] <MagnumRapper> real codec wont work
[02:46] <s2a> Creationist, dint read it lol
[02:47] <matthias_> mop the example will apply to you, the terminal window example is harder but i see that you have not wireless activated ...
[02:47] <ph0rensic> s2a, another idea is where it says Host cd/dvd-rom Drive, change that to your external
[02:47] <mop> matthias_, thx for your interest , i will read and try if something not work of course i will back again here :)
[02:47] <puff> neil_d: Oh yeah, btw, while this is going on, top shows xorg is using 97% of cpu.
[02:47] <puff> neil_d:  rebooting now.
[02:47] <s2a> ph0rensic, wait im almost done downloading and i think there is dependencies after :'( ALL ON DIAL-UP
[02:47] <paddygman> Anyone any ideas how to stop a "The Generated cache was invalid" error when installing aps
[02:48] <paddygman> tried to remove a icon from menus manually and get error when reinstalling
[02:48] <s2a> Creationist, im still searching for a guide for u
[02:48] <McJerry> what would be the best way to backup the entire hard drive on a production ubuntu server?
[02:48] <Housefly7k> Any suggestions for channels on IRC? Linux related or Computer/Tech related in general
[02:48] <Creationist> s2a: Apparently it requires jumping through a ton of hoops... according to MY search results.
[02:49] <thinkpaduser> McJerry, Ghost for Linux, i think
[02:49] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I am trying to install a windows application onto ubuntu using WINE but as soon as I put the CD in, the cdrom0 - File Browser says <The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "cdrom0".> Any ideas anyone?
[02:49] <Creationist> s2a: Funny that technology that ancient is still not fully supported, eh?
[02:49] <thinkpaduser> McJerry, free download
[02:49] <McJerry> thinkpaduser: will google it, tx
[02:49] <Creationist> JonathanEllis: Are you an administrator with full priviledges?
[02:49] <ph0rensic> McJerry, Really depends on how you want the backups to perform, etc
[02:50] <JonathanEllis> No, just a user
[02:50] <s2a> Creationist, go to http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu/gutsy/#timidity and do ctrl+f for "TiMidity"
[02:50] <s2a> Creationist, i havent read much but it looks good from wat i read
[02:50] <sunogbaga> exit
[02:50] <ph0rensic> !backup
[02:50] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:50] <ph0rensic> McJerry, ^^
[02:51] <McJerry> ph0rensic: I have a production server running freeradius and god knows I didn't document my steps so I just wanna image the drive in it's current state then will perform nightly backups of the mysql database(s) in case of emergency. I think that will be my best backup plan
[02:51] <McJerry> k, tx
[02:51] <Sweet-P> McJerry...how about dd'ing it to a network share
[02:51] <speeddemon8803> !cloning > speeddemon8803
[02:52] <inacoma> Sup guys
[02:52] <thinkpaduser> McJerry, sorry, i thought you meant image the drive, rather than a daily backup :) my bad
[02:52] <ph0rensic> thinkpaduser, well he does want a current image, but also wants nightly backups...
[02:53] <inacoma> i'm installing Ubuntu Server for the second time, i get into the installation... and after entering a host name (I'm installing LAMP server) it just hangs on the blue screen with a grey textbox at the bottom? that i can type in... but nothing is poping up?
[02:53] <thinkpaduser> ph0rensic, ah
[02:53] <s2a> ph0rensic, k, now depencies r being downloaded and wen they're done ill get bak, k?
[02:53] <McJerry> thinkpaduser: you were correct, i will image the drive for the configuration and then do nightly backups for the database changes
[02:53] <chris0> thinkpaduser: what kind do you have?
[02:53] <thinkpaduser> McJerry, awesome.  i think G4L is a great tool
[02:53] <thinkpaduser> McJerry, only one i know that recognizes reiserfs
[02:54] <inacoma> Anyone know why this is happening for me?
[02:54] <inacoma> :\
[02:54] <thinkpaduser> chris0, T60
[02:54] <ph0rensic> McJerry, check out that link i sent.. it has a  lot of good information regarding backup including which type is best to suite your needs (software, differential vs full, network backups etc)
[02:54] <ph0rensic> s2a, k
[02:54] <thinkpaduser> chris0, and a few oldies
[02:54] <netron1234> small minor tip: if you cant get urbanterror to work in gnome, try running it under icewm or fluxbox.
[02:54] <LAsT> where are you from?
[02:54] <chris0> thinkpaduser: t61 here. Good puters....!ot > me
[02:54] <LAsT> o_O
[02:54] <J-a-K-e> hello all, does anyone know how i can stop banshee from freezing at startup
[02:54] <netron1234> uk here
[02:55] <inacoma> i'm installing Ubuntu Server for the second time, i get into the installation... and after entering a host name (I'm installing LAMP server) it just hangs on the blue screen with a grey textbox at the bottom? that i can type in... but nothing is poping up?
[02:55] <inacoma> Anyone know why this is happening for me?
[02:55] <inacoma> :\
[02:55] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i have never had a better laptop
[02:55] <netron1234> jake -> try rhythmbox or amarok.
[02:55] <LAsT> J-a-K-e ctrl+c? =)
[02:56] <chris0> thinkpaduser: I've heard really good things about the t60s. The t61 is a little picky with Linux, but otherwise I love it
[02:56] <thinkpaduser> chris0, it is the 'Death Star' amongst the white Apple 'Alliance' in the office!
[02:56] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i think they are the same but yours has the WAN card?
[02:56] <psycholvlan> does ubuntu already come with drivers for the Intel GMA X3100 video card or do you have to d/l them somewhere?
[02:56] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I am trying to read a cd but I get the error <The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "cdrom0".>. I can list the files using sudo ls but that doesnt help because it is an installation disc for a piece of windows software which I want to use under WINE. I read that it is a very bad idea to run WINE using sudo. Any ideas?
[02:56] <netron1234> inacoma ->  it means that the orbits of mars are in the wrong conjunction with scorpio. try burning some insense.
[02:56] <thinkpaduser> chris0, Gentoo is dreamy on this one
[02:57] <chris0> thinkpaduser: lol. I've had people ask me whether mine's REALLY REALLY old...I just boutght it!. Mine can have the WAN card. I'd run Gentoo if I had time...I can't afford to spend 24 hours updating....
[02:57] <inacoma> that was clever netron, did it take you that long to come up with that?
[02:57] <netron1234> jonathan _> its a scratched cd.
[02:57] <s2a> any1 no the exact date of 8.04?
[02:57] <inacoma> fucking clown.
[02:57] <thinkpaduser> chris0, the install took a while.  but that was a year ago :)
[02:57] <J-a-K-e> netron1234: ya... amarok hasn't got the best sound quality and rhythmbox doesn't support ldsa
[02:58] <LAsT> JonathanEllis o_O lol?
[02:58] <netron1234> inacoma -> you gave no tech details.
[02:58] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yup...I ran Gentoo for about a year on a custom desktop....If I had time I'd still be running it, but I need a box that's actually sort of stable, hence Ubuntu
[02:58] <yyeago> I get an error message saying my $HOME/.drmc is being ignored
[02:59] <yyeago> But I don't even see a $HOME/.drmc
[02:59] <JonathanEllis> Netron: I dont think its a scratched cd. LAst: Didnt understand o_O lol?
[02:59] <spirithands> Hey guys.. i'm going nutzo here.  I've got an ATI Radeon HD 2600 PCIe card.  When I use the vesa driver, it works fine.  I when through the "radeonhd" xorg driver setup procedure @ http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-641247.html  and it still kicks back to the failsafe low resolution driver ..  The radeonhd driver exists:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-641247.html
[02:59] <inacoma> ...
[02:59] <spirithands> What is the problem?
[02:59] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i used Ubuntu on this a few times.  but to get most stuff to work (suspend, fglrx, madwifi-ng, hdapsd, thinkfinger) i needed to compile everything manually anyway so...
[02:59] <inacoma> What technical details do you need...
[03:00] <thinkpaduser> chris0, it wasn't easy, but it is more stable than Ubuntu ever was
[03:00] <chris0> thinkpaduser: really? The only thing I don't have working is HDAPS because I don't have time to patch my own kernel
[03:00] <ForzaPalermo> anyone here good with getting ssh working properly? i am trying to get it to work using public/private keys
[03:00] <speeddemon8803> inacoma, any errors that may have happened..if their longer than 1 line use the pastebin site.
[03:00] <netron1234> inacoma -> a bit more than what you gave...
[03:00] <thinkpaduser> chris0, are you using the Ubuntu stock kernel?
[03:01] <inacoma> speeddemon8803: no errors...
[03:01] <speeddemon8803> hmmm...
[03:01] <inacoma> its just hangs after i type hostname,
[03:01] <chris0> thinkpaduser: now, yes. I ran the rt kernel for a while, because I do a lot of audio stuff, but I haven't had time for that since I reinstalled.
[03:01] <speeddemon8803> that could be SO many things.
[03:01] <speeddemon8803> :/
[03:01] <inacoma> well not hangs... just the blue installation screen with grey text area at the bottom
[03:01] <thinkpaduser> chris0, it's pretty easy to patch the sources and install your own as a .deb package
[03:01] <prasanna> by accident i've pressed shift and backspace a few times now, it automatically logs me out
[03:02] <thinkpaduser> chris0, hdaps is fun even without the patch.  playing Neverball anyway- tilting the laptop around as a joystick haha
[03:02] <netron1234> inacoma-> kernel in ubuntu doesnt like your hardware.. try a different distro
[03:02] <prasanna> is there away i can disable that
[03:02] <ForzaPalermo> anyone here good with getting ssh working properly? i am trying to get it to work using public/private keys
[03:02] <N1ghtCawler> How do i "unsplit" a a screen window?
[03:02] <chris0> thinkpaduser: the problem is that the patch for HDAPS doesn't exactly mesh with the Ubuntu kernel and I have yet to figure out why. I was talking to another Thinkpad owner who said that it's a scsi/ata issue...btw to clarify, I have HDAPS, I just don't have disk head parking
[03:03] <inacoma> intep pentium d
[03:03] <inacoma> :>
[03:03] <inacoma> intel
[03:03] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i ran into that
[03:03] <chris0> thinkpaduser: and?
[03:03] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i needed to find the RIGHT patch which was a pain
[03:03] <netron1234> night -> split window where? what software?
[03:03] <thinkpaduser> chris0, and then turn some stuff around in the kernel
[03:04] <chris0> thinkpaduser: do you happen to know which one it is? I found a bunch, but none of hte patches work with 2.6.22-14
[03:04] <thinkpaduser> chris0, for some reason the drive would be sda sometimes and then hda others
[03:04] <chris0> thinkpaduser: really....I've never had THAT problem
[03:04] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i am using 2.6.24
[03:04] <thinkpaduser> chris0, it was weird
[03:04] <psycholvlan> does ubuntu come in a 64 bit version?
[03:04] <thinkpaduser> chris0, but it went away
[03:05] <dlsweeney> yes
[03:05] <thinkpaduser> chris0, for your kernel i followed a link on the Thinkwiki site
[03:05] <psycholvlan> how you get the 64bit version?
[03:05] <dion> uiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:05] <Starnestommy> psycholvlan: the amd64 version is 64 bit
[03:05] <psycholvlan> oh
[03:05] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i tried one or two that weren't necessarily meant for that kernel, i remember
[03:05] <bad_angle> uiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:05] <psycholvlan> it based on processor?
[03:05] <thinkpaduser> chris0, but found one that didn't fail to patch eventually
[03:06] <wease|> nightcrawler: i know this sounds basic but....did you try the "auto" adjust button on your monitor?
[03:06] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yeah, if I remember correctly, there was a list of them. I tried every one and they all won't work.
[03:06] <aubade> Any reports of OO.o not displaying icons in the toolbars and context menus for 7.10?
[03:06] <psycholvlan>  cuz I know in windows i need to use 64bit for my 4Gigs of RAM to show up
[03:06] <thinkpaduser> chris0, hmmm
[03:06] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i'll see if i have it around to pastebin
[03:06] <chris0> thinkpaduser: thz!!
[03:07] <psycholvlan> this ubuntu only shows 2.7Gigs
[03:07] <thinkpaduser> chris0, if you pop up to a 2.6.24 kernel i have the right one :)
[03:08] <wease|> N1ghtcawler:  i know this sounds basic but....did you try the "auto" adjust button on your monitor?
[03:08] <thinkpaduser> chris0, that was a pain to find.  gentoo doesn't even have it in their repos yet
[03:08] <chris0> thinkpaduser: where did you find 24? different repo?
[03:09] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i'm on gentoo.  you might not have it in yours yet?
[03:09] <chris0> thinkpaduser: oh yea....that's what it is.
[03:09] <thinkpaduser> chris0, rats
[03:09] <thinkpaduser> chris0, might be a 'wait till Herdy' thing
[03:09] <chris0> well, if you don't mind, pastebin your patch and I'll see if I can get a 24 kernel
[03:09] <s2a> ph0rensic, yo its all done
[03:09] <thinkpaduser> chris0, ok
[03:10] <chris0> thinkpaduser: it's mainly that I haven't had time to play with it, and I dont want to screw up my machine. I've done it enough times already
[03:10] <ph0rensic> s2a, follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627847
[03:11] <thinkpaduser> chris0, try this: http://pastebin.com/m51294ade
[03:11] <yo> both of my computers are connected directly thru NIC cards with a crossover cable. I can browse the ubuntu shared folder from my windows pc, but not the other way around. how do i fix this?
[03:12] <thinkpaduser> chris0, yeah i know that feeling.  i always have a 'safe' kernel in GRUB
[03:12] <thinkpaduser> chris0, because i mess everything up almost daily
[03:12] <bill1> hello?
[03:12] <thinkpaduser> chris0, that patch *might* work on your 2.6.22 kernel
[03:13] <billy> can someone help por favor?
[03:13] <thinkpaduser> chris0, sometimes they do depending on what changes are made?
[03:13] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yep. For some reason, the main problem has been that Gutsy insists on packaging the Nvidia drivers and the Madwifi drivers together. I'm going to give the patch a try now....
[03:13] <thinkpaduser> chris0, it is worth a shot.  you can just apt-get remove --purge the sources and delete the tree if it fails
[03:13] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i used the madwifi-ng drivers from their website via svn
[03:14] <thinkpaduser> chris0, in order to get monitor mode to work
[03:14] <thinkpaduser> chris0, and blacklisted the ath_hal module
[03:14] <icesword> hi, am using virtualbox now,it said cannot lock and allocate memory,what is wrong
[03:14] <thinkpaduser> chris0, they have a good howto for Ubuntu
[03:14] <chris0> thinkpaduser: madwifi doesn't work for me unless I'm literally within 4 feet of an AP. So I'm using Ndiswrapper now
[03:14] <thinkpaduser> chris0, ahh!  really?
[03:15] <kurumin> #c4ll
[03:15] <thinkpaduser> chris0, try the svn sources if you get time.  what card do you have?
[03:15] <kurumin> hello
[03:15] <chris0> thinkpaduser: the problem is that madwifi and ndiswrapper don't get along together.
[03:15] <mixed> !forums
[03:15] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[03:15] <gotgnu> how do I fix a grub error 17
[03:15] <chris0> thinkpaduser: atheros a/b/g
[03:15] <inacoma> one question
[03:15] <inacoma> with an Intel Pentium D
[03:15] <thinkpaduser> chris0, gotcha
[03:15] <inacoma> do i get x86 or 64 install
[03:15] <inacoma> ;X
[03:15] <billy> howcome i can browse through my ubuntu comp from a windows comp but not vice versa?
[03:16] <chris0> thinkpaduser: my solution was to get rid of madwifi (and nvidia), install ndiswrapper, and then install the nvidia driver from the nvidia site.
[03:16] <thinkpaduser> chris0, is it the AR5212? (lspci will tell you if you have pciutils installed)
[03:16] <mixed> anyone know how to make the scroll wheel work correctly on the mouse?
[03:16] <chris0> thinkpaduser: I believe it's the NET5211...but I'm lspci'ing now
[03:16] <thinkpaduser> chris0, have you been blacklisting the Ubuntu modules when you install the website drivers?
[03:17] <chris0> thinkpaduser: I don't seem to need to. I just uninstalled linux-restricted-modules and that took care of it.
[03:17] <linuxpoet>  linuxpoet
[03:17] <thinkpaduser> chris0, right.  that would
[03:17] <ripdisk__> reboot
[03:17] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i have the ATI card
[03:17] <thinkpaduser> chris0, but i too use the website stuff
[03:18] <thinkpaduser> chris0, mine worked together.  i don't see how they could conflict but who knows...
[03:18] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yeah, it seems to work better than envy (or the Ubuntu restricted drivers)
[03:18] <ph0rensic> when is the /tmp folder cleared??
[03:18] <bazhang> billy: probably need the ext3 drivers for windows
[03:18] <chris0> thinkpaduser: the problem is ubuntu's setup. They try to override ndiswrapper for some reason
[03:18] <thinkpaduser> chris0, funny.  i have never had ndiswrapper work for me
[03:18] <klifton> I am having a problem with getting java to function in firefox.   Can anyone help me to get it working?
[03:19] <thinkpaduser> chris0, Ubuntu can be pretty pushy with it's own method, true indeed
[03:19] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i'd blacklist their stuff anyway
[03:19] <pyutaros> Hi there.
[03:19] <billy> bazhang: it only happens with lan tho, when i browse thru wireless it works fine
[03:20] <thinkpaduser> chris0, in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist i think
[03:20] <gotgnu> how do I fix a grub error 17...is there a how to?
[03:20] <chris0> thinkpaduser: well, it seems to be working for now, so I'm happy (until it breaks again)
[03:20] <thinkpaduser> chris0, haha good point
[03:20] <thinkpaduser> chris0, now you see why my stuff breaks a lot :)
[03:20] <billy> bahzang?
[03:20] <pyutaros> Anyone have a sec to help with a rather nasty one?
[03:21] <chris0> thinkpaduser: I've used Gentoo, I've been there. "Oh it's only one small conf file....what's the harm in tinkering with it??"
[03:21] <thinkpaduser> chris0, in my experience Ubuntu releases are unstable.  things that worked once fail to the next release
[03:21] <DShepherd> what do I need to install to setup an ftp server on my machine?
[03:21] <thinkpaduser> chris0, right! then you forgot which file you edited
[03:22] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yes.  I just tried the patch and it doesn't like it. Oh well....
[03:22] <thinkpaduser> chris0, rats
[03:22] <thinkpaduser> chris0, it will with the next release maybe?
[03:22] <chris0> thinkpaduser: I have a friend (also a thinkpad owner) who just got it working on a Gentoo T42. I'll get him to look at it some day.
[03:22] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i don't seem to have the 2.6.22 patch any longer.  i recall it being easier to find than this one though
[03:22] <thinkpaduser> chris0, nice
[03:23] <billy> anyone?
[03:23] <chris0> thinkpaduser: here's where I've been finding my patches: http://www.zen24593.zen.co.uk/hdaps/  Same place as you?
[03:23] <pyutaros> What's up billy?
[03:24] <Rael> I am using ubuntu. for some reason my sound has stopped working. the volume is up and the files play fine but no sound
[03:24] <levander> billy: on the linux computer 'smbclient -L <windows box name>'
[03:24] <thinkpaduser> chris0, not me
[03:24] <speeddemon8803> !sound | rael
[03:24] <thinkpaduser> chris0, here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/HDAPS
[03:24] <ubotu> rael: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:24] <speeddemon8803> have you tried this rael?
[03:24] <billy> pyutaros: i cant browse through my files on muy windows comp from my ubuntu comp thru LAN, but i can on wireles..
[03:25] <Rael> the alsa volume control thing opens up
[03:25] <levander> billy: did you try the command I gave you?
[03:25] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i am pretty sure the one i used was named a bunch of numbers
[03:25] <billy> can i do that connection specifically?
[03:25] <pyutaros> billy: what levander said.
[03:25] <billy> like eth0 vs eth1?
[03:25] <levander> billy: it's a debugging command
[03:25] <chris0> thinkpaduser: whoa dude how did I miss that? Ive had that page bookmarked for a while.....D'OH!
[03:25] <mixed> anyone know how to make the scroll wheel work correctly on the mouse?
[03:26] <orbisvicis> my dhcp got messed up by ebox [ i think ] ... can someone ps aux | grep -i dhc for me ?
[03:26] <thinkpaduser> chris0, haha
[03:26] <billy> oh okay.. one sex
[03:26] <billy> sec***
[03:26] <billy> ahhhhh sry lmao
[03:26] <levander> billy: what's the name of your windows box?
[03:26] <billy> BILLY
[03:26] <thinkpaduser> chris0, Thinkwiki is where it's at playa!
[03:26] <billy> lol
[03:26] <chris0> !Language | :D
[03:26] <ubotu> :D: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:26] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yep
[03:26] <levander> billy: 'smbclient -L BILLY'
[03:27] <pyutaros> Does anyone here know how to manually start up networking from TTY1, pre xserver?
[03:27] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i KNOW my XUbuntu Gutsy patch for 2.6.22 came from there
[03:27] <tbrock> hey whats the best way to get involved with development
[03:27] <s2a> any1 no of a windows program that does wat devede does?
[03:27] <billy> what am i looking for?
[03:27] <billy> what am i looking for in there?
[03:27] <billy> sry for the repeat
[03:27] <thinkpaduser> chris0, but it might not have been named properly
[03:27] <levander> billy: paste the output
[03:28] <levander> tbrock: do you know any programming languages?
[03:28] <Flannel> !contribute | tbrock
[03:28] <ubotu> tbrock: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[03:28] <chris0> thinkpaduser: there's a 2.6.22.9 patch...lemme try that
[03:28] <Flannel> s2a: #windows is where you should ask that
[03:28] <billy> Domain=[BILLY] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]
[03:28] <thinkpaduser> chris0, nice...
[03:28] <pyutaros> I've got a pretty nasty error keeping me out of xserver, but I've gotten into the console, and just need to be able to download packages to correct some issues.
[03:28] <s2a> Flannel, i dint even no there is a windows irc! k, thx alot
[03:28] <levander> billy: is it just that one line?
[03:29] <levander> !paste | billy
[03:29] <ubotu> billy: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[03:29] <billy>         Sharename       Type      Comment
[03:29] <billy>         ---------       ----      -------
[03:29] <billy>         Documents and Settings Disk
[03:29] <billy>         IPC$            IPC       Remote IPC
[03:29] <billy>         print$          Disk      Printer Drivers
[03:29] <billy>         SharedDocs      Disk
[03:29] <FloodBot2> billy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <levander> damn, i knew that was coming
[03:29] <Flannel> pyutaros: aptitude is a curses GUI, otherwise you use apt-get
[03:29] <Flannel> pyutaros: oh, you need netwokring
[03:29] <levander> billy: it's working.  Why do you think it's not?
[03:29] <pyutaros> Flannel: yepper
[03:29] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i bet you could dl the kernel.org 2.6.24 sources and use my patch and my config to have everything work
[03:29] <billy> when i turn off wireless it doesn't work anymore.
[03:29] <levander> billy: and, do use a pastebin for multi-line pasting next time
[03:29] <thinkpaduser> chris0, if you wanted to get really dirty haha
[03:29] <pyutaros> Flannel: networking is out
[03:30] <billy> levander: np
[03:30] <chris0> thinkpaduser: I'll probably end up doing that someday. I've rolled enough kernels....
[03:30] <J-a-K-e> does anyone know how to use audio plugins with banshee?
[03:30] <Flannel> pyutaros: /etc/init.d/networking
[03:30] <chris0> thinkpaduser: I made my own realtime kernels back in Fedora 2
[03:30] <levander> billy: well then, if you turn off your wireless network connection, how do you think you're connecting to the network?
[03:30] <thinkpaduser> chris0, getting the right config sucks.  i will pastebin mine for you
[03:30] <billy> through a crossover lan cable connected to both comps
[03:30] <billy> im not that dumb lol
[03:30] <chris0> thinkpaduser: thz
[03:30] <pyutaros> Flannel: checking
[03:31] <NetEcho> hey guys
[03:31] <Flannel> pyutaros: with configuration in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:31] <billy> levander: and ive done the ping command while wireless is disconnected and i get replies
[03:31] <speeddemon8803> !remastersys > speeddemon8803
[03:31] <Adylas> Hello ! The only user on my ubuntu box has a password with a "é" in it. But the login screen is in english ? (Unable to type é)
[03:31] <levander> billy: The problem is with your crossover cable.  I don't know how to set that up.
[03:31] <Adylas> What I can do ?
[03:31] <Flannel> pyutaros: the other option is sneakernet
[03:31] <NetEcho> I"m having an issue getting ubuntu to play sound through my USB headset
[03:31] <billy> levander: why would i get a reply if its my crossover cable?
[03:31] <tbrock> levander yeah i know java and perl pretty well
[03:31] <pyutaros> Flannel: uggh
[03:31] <levander> billy: other networking, besides samba is working with the crossover cable?
[03:31] <tbrock> can some C++/C
[03:32] <Flannel> pyutaros: Do you have an Ubuntu box that works?
[03:32] <tbrock> php
[03:32] <pyutaros> Flannel: so what am I doing in those two locations.
[03:32] <pyutaros> Flannel: yes this one.
[03:32] <billy> levander: i can read and get files off the ubuntu comp from my windows, but not vice versa thru the crossover cable
[03:32] <Flannel> pyutaros: you can use aptOnCD to greatly simplify sneakernet
[03:32] <NetEcho> Anyone know how to get everything playing through a Logitech USB headset? I tried to set it as the device in volume control but that didn't seem to help
[03:32] <levander> tbrock: check out a project called 'al fresco' - it's a Java CMS.  The Ubuntu people don't do a lot of programming in those languages.  I think it's mostly python and C/C++ for Ubuntu.
[03:32] <pyutaros> Flannel: splain please
[03:32] <Flannel> pyutaros: interfaces is the configuration, networking is the script that starts/stops networking
[03:33] <thinkpaduser> chris0, here is 2.6.22, except it has the tuxonice suspend2 patch: http://pastebin.com/m99d47de
[03:33] <SpookyET> Ubuntu is a bitch to configure manually since it's hard to find the location of any thing, and the GUI tools are lacking.
[03:33] <billy> levander?
[03:33] <pyutaros> Flannel: no I meant splain aptoncd
[03:33] <speeddemon8803> !aptoncd
[03:33] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[03:33] <levander> tbrock: But, if you're a junior programmer, I hope you're not expecting people to involve you in design very quickly.  Probably even as a senior programmer you'll be fixing bugs and testing first.  There's also the Mythbuntu project that's actively recruiting ppl if you're interested in that.
[03:33] <Flannel> pyutaros: AptOnCD is a ... uh, synaptic-by-proxy sort of thing.  You use it on a computer with networking, it downloads all the (up to date) packages (and depends) for stuff, and makes them easy to burn.  You take the CD you burned to the other computer, and it acts as a repository
[03:34] <billy> levander what can i do?
[03:34] <pyutaros> Flannel: I see.
[03:34] <billy> levander: i can read and get files off the ubuntu comp from my windows, but not vice versa thru the crossover cable
[03:34] <Adylas> Hello ! The only user on my ubuntu box has a password with a "é" in it. But the login screen is in english ? (Unable to type é). What I can do ? Thanks in advence.
[03:34] <thinkpaduser> chris0, and here is 2.6.24: http://pastebin.com/m24983ef
[03:34] <levander> billy: Is stuff besides samba working with the crossover cable?
[03:34] <levander> networking stuff
[03:34] <billy> what kinda network stuff?
[03:34] <Flannel> tbrock: check out #ubuntu-motu, or #ubuntu-bugs, you can probably find some low hanging fruit there
[03:34] <billy> NFS i think?
[03:34] <billy> i disable ip6v already as well
[03:34] <NetEcho> How do you switch your active sound device to a headset so that Totem and other players will use that sound interface instead of the speakers?
[03:34] <JDStone> webmin packages are broken in Ubuntu Edgy
[03:34] <thinkpaduser> chris0, a 'make oldconfig' on those and you will have everything work right, surely
[03:34] <levander> billy: did you try 'smbclient -L BILLY' while the wireless connection was off?
[03:34] <JDStone> maybe I should upgrade to Gutsy
[03:34] <billy> nope
[03:34] <JDStone> :?
[03:34] <billy> but that means disconnecting from here
[03:34] <JDStone> oops
[03:34] <JDStone> ?
[03:35] <thinkpaduser> chris0, even gensplash, suspend/hibernate
[03:35] <billy> so ill be right back
[03:35] <Flannel> JDStone: webmin packages don't exist in edgy
[03:35] <pyutaros> Flannel: what was the second path you gave?
[03:35] <levander> billy: Ah, that is a quandary.  Let me think a second.
[03:35] <n00bness> hey guys im configuring my network here but it does not work
[03:35] <n00bness> auto eth0
[03:35] <n00bness> iface eth0 inet static
[03:35] <n00bness> address 192.168.1.110
[03:35] <n00bness> gateway 192.168.1.1
[03:35] <n00bness> netmask 255.255.255.0
[03:35] <FloodBot2> n00bness: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <chris0> thinkpaduser: good....actually I've never gotten hibernate to work, so that'd be good. I have suspend most of the time....
[03:35] <tbrock> levander i don't mind, i just want to get invovled
[03:35] <Flannel> pyutaros: /etc/network/interfaces (config file), /etc/init.d/networking (script to restart)
[03:35] <tbrock> what projects are cool
[03:35] <tbrock> and really growing fast
[03:35] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i have another config here
[03:35] <tbrock> mythbuntu is tight
[03:36] <mouseboyx> in the ubuntu php -apache2 how do i disable php from executing in certain directories.
[03:36] <chris0> thinkpaduser: for which?
[03:36] <yyeago> IS it just me or did the partitioner get 200% less helpful come 7.10
[03:36] <levander> tbrock: head into #mythbuntu and ask about getting involved.  You'll probably need a capture card though, so you can have a running system at home if you want to help with that project.
[03:36] <thinkpaduser> chris0, this one is the one i used in Xubuntu Gutsy for 2.6.22-9
[03:36] <pyutaros> Flannel: I think I just need to run the script.
[03:36] <yyeago> I thought it would auto-partition my drive into 3 partitions...but it only gave me two!
[03:36] <thinkpaduser> chris0, this is with Tuxonice and the SLAB thingy so it suspends
[03:36] <Flannel> pyutaros: sudo /etc/init.d/interfaces restart
[03:36] <computerex> does anyone know why my panels sometimes become invisible? The fix is simple enough, metacity --replace, but I am curios
[03:36] <chris0> thinkpaduser: ok....
[03:37] <Flannel> pyutaros: er, /networking not /interfaces
[03:37] <ph0rensic> yyeago, maybe its me and you heeh
[03:37] <yyeago> what do you mean?
[03:37] <pyutaros> Flannel: Actually, I did start and got an OK.
[03:37] <n00bness> i have a linksys router this is the config im giving my network http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57660/ any idea why it wouldnt work ?
[03:37] <ph0rensic> yyeago, about the partitioner being less useful
[03:37] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i'd use this on yours: http://pastebin.com/m4216dfbe
[03:37] <yyeago> QUESTION: should the auto-partitioner give me TWO partitions or THREE partitions???
[03:37] <pyutaros> Flannel: now what would be a good test.  prolly ifconfig.
[03:37] <levander> billy: All I can think of is to explain to you why I think it's not working...  Let me pastebin some instructions.
[03:37] <yyeago> I thought common linux setup was 3
[03:38] <NetEcho> Ok I am using a laptop and just plugged in my Logitech USB headset. Ubuntu recognizes it but even when I go to volume properties and set it to Logitech everything else still trys to use my Speakers and not the headset... how do I correct this issue?
[03:38] <ph0rensic> yyeago, are you dualbooting?
[03:38] <yyeago> ph0rensic: no
[03:38] <thinkpaduser> chris0, ha! there it is!  i found your patch for tux on ice AND hdaps!
[03:38] <NetEcho> evening ph0rensic
[03:38] <yyeago> but i am loading a home drive
[03:38] <ph0rensic> yyeago, full install to drive?
[03:38] <yyeago> ph0rensic: yeah
[03:38] <pyutaros> Flannel: I'm not seeing any eth in my output.
[03:38] <ph0rensic> NetEcho, hey!
[03:38] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i knew i kept this junk for a reason :)
[03:38] <yyeago> ph0rensic: my /home/ drive is NFS
[03:38] <ph0rensic> yyeago, then just two one for swap and the other for root
[03:38] <fouad> n00bness, why you dont use dhcp ?
[03:38] <mouseboyx> in the ubuntu php -apache2 how do i disable php from executing in certain directories.
[03:38] <yyeago> ph0rensic: cool
[03:38] <chris0> thinkpaduser: really? that rocks!
[03:38] <NetEcho> ph0rensic, any idea how to solve my issue?
[03:39] <ph0rensic> NetEcho, oh what is it.. i just got in
[03:39] <Frogzoo> ph0rensic: yeah, the ubuntu autopartition's not too flash
[03:39] <pyutaros> Maybe my problem is hardware detection.
[03:39] <NetEcho> ph0rensic,  ah just started using x-chat.. hard to keep up in it lol anyway here it is "I am using a laptop and just plugged in my Logitech USB headset. Ubuntu recognizes it but even when I go to volume properties and set it to Logitech everything else still trys to use my Speakers and not the headset... how do I correct this issue?"
[03:39] <thinkpaduser> chris0, here's the patch for 2.6.22.9 or whatever that config was for: http://pastebin.com/m4afd1935
[03:39] <Frogzoo> ph0rensic: just 2 partitions seems a bit ewww, but some people like it that way
[03:40] <ph0rensic> NetEcho, Oh man i dunno sorry I haven't tried anything like that yet
[03:40] <yo> levander: it decided to start working after that command
[03:40] <thinkpaduser> chris0, for the tux on ice patch go here: http://www.tuxonice.net/downloads/all/
[03:40] <NetEcho> ph0rensic, okidokie, how are you today?
[03:40] <thinkpaduser> chris0, and get tuxonice-3.0-rc2-for-2.6.22.11.patch.bz2
[03:40] <ph0rensic> Frogzoo, you can make more, but auto-wise it defaults to 2
[03:40] <billy> levander: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57661/
[03:40] <ph0rensic> NetEcho, Doing alright, u?
[03:41] <billy> hey ph0rensic
[03:41] <chris0> thinkpaduser: ok
[03:41] <billy> its yo
[03:41] <thinkpaduser> chris0, use that tux-on-ice patch, the hdaps parking patch, and my config and you are SET UP
[03:41] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i had everything working great with those
[03:41] <ph0rensic> billy, yah i saw earlier when you switched
[03:41] <NetEcho> ph0rensic, not to shabby. I'm out of town visiting my parents so I only have my laptop, usualy I'd stream music off my computer so headphones aren't an issue
[03:41] <billy> lol okay
[03:41] <JDStone> Flannel: do they exist i Gutys?
[03:41] <JDStone> webmind
[03:41] <JDStone> *webmin
[03:41] <ph0rensic> NetEcho, ahh i see
[03:41] <yyeago> I've got an edubuntu lab. What would be the best way to deploy all machines with exactly the same setup?
[03:42] <NetEcho> ph0rensic, any idea if ubuntu has a shortcut key combo to go to desktop like windows' Winkey + D?
[03:42] <billy> ph0rensic:i finally got everything working.. made a crossover cable from a patch cable and now im transferring all my files
[03:42] <chris0> thinkpaduser: cool Thanks!
[03:42] <ph0rensic> billy, right on
[03:42] <billy> yeah
[03:42] <thinkpaduser> chris0, one thing though
[03:42] <chris0> thinkpaduser: ?
[03:42] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i have an ATI driver
[03:42] <billy> ph0rensic: i think to save myself from retransferring files, im just gonna switch out the hardrvies in mine and my bros com since their identical
[03:42] <ph0rensic> NetEcho, yah it does .. I dont know what it is, are you using compiz?
[03:43] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yep. I'll have to go through for that.
[03:43] <billy> transferring them back to my comp*
[03:43] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i used this howto to use all that stuff
[03:43] <pyutaros> Let me start over.  I am unable to boot to GUI, and am getting errors in syslog.
[03:43] <ph0rensic> billy, you really need to mug someone for their external HDD heeh
[03:43] <thinkpaduser> chris0, http://blog.vaxius.net/?p=19
[03:43] <levander> billy: http://pastebin.ca/921566
[03:44] <billy> ph0rensic: lmao yeah.. not really now that i have the LAN going, file transfer is pretty fast now
[03:44] <NetEcho> ph0rensic, yes I am running compiz right now
[03:44] <thinkpaduser> chris0, that shows you how to make a nice .deb for the kernel image
[03:44] <yyeago> QUESTION: I've got an edubuntu lab. What would be the best way to deploy all machines with exactly the same setup?
[03:44] <levander> billy: why not just transfer the files over the wireless connection?
[03:44] <ph0rensic> billy, good for u .. glad you got it all working
[03:44] <Flannel> JDStone: No.  Its a security risk, no longer supported in Debian or Ubuntu
[03:44] <Flannel> yyeago: LTSP
[03:44] <cottima> hello, is there a tool to boot an iso of a lvm partition?
[03:44] <billy> levander: because the wireless is mad slow compared to the LAN
[03:44] <chris0> thinkpaduser: thz! it'd be nice if I could get everything working. I've got almost everything...this would be the final touch
[03:45] <thinkpaduser> chris0, you might not need that SLAB/SLUB thing changed for suspend to work with a Nvidia card
[03:45] <billy> levander: im transferring 30GB+/- 5GB
[03:45] <pyutaros> Specifically, "Pango-Warning: pango_cairo_font_get_scaled_font called with bad font, expect ugly output.
[03:45] <levander> billy: just copy them over, go to bed, get up in morning, it's done.  Don't have to screw with hard drives or anything.
[03:45] <thinkpaduser> chris0, that was about 3 months work for me.  hopefully it will save you a little time
[03:45] <ForzaPalermo> how do i reset my ssh localhost password
[03:45] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yes, hopefully.
[03:45] <pyutaros> Is it possible I can just copy something like this off of the LIVE CD?
[03:45] <billy> levander: i would do that, but their both laptops, and only one charger, so i risk one dying during the process
[03:45] <Flannel> ForzaPalermo: You reset your password
[03:46] <ph0rensic> hey NetEcho , in ccsm go to general and then actions tab then general there is a setting in there (ctrl-alt-D) but you can customize if you want)
[03:46] <zero88> how do i check the kernel version i have?
[03:46] <Flannel> zero88: uname -a
[03:46] <thinkpaduser> chris0, and i know all of those are good for madwifi-ng
[03:46] <ForzaPalermo> Flannel, how?
[03:46] <chris0> zero88: uname -r
[03:46] <billy> levander: so i have a real reason to get it done fast, not just being non patient
[03:46] <ForzaPalermo> do i do it
[03:46] <zero88> Flannel, thanks
[03:46] <levander> billy: you're a mess, just go buy a new charger, life is too short
[03:46] <NetEcho> ph0rensic, thanks
[03:46] <chris0> thinkpaduser: cool.
[03:46] <Flannel> ForzaPalermo: passwd would do it.  (of course, that assumes you know it).  Do you have another admin account on this box?
[03:46] <billy> im not buying my little brother a new charger.. they are 50 dollars.. he can buy it himself
[03:46] <levander> billy: I would try the instructoins I pasted before taking the hard drive out of a laptop.
[03:46] <billy> levander: why?
[03:47] <thinkpaduser> chris0, so you could just drop everything Ubuntu and do this: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[03:47] <NetEcho> ph0rensic,  works like a charm
[03:47] <ForzaPalermo> flannel
[03:47] <levander> taking a hard drive out of a laptop isn't as easy as taking it out of a desktop, things could go wrong (as i've experienced myself)
[03:47] <billy> levander: as long as i do it while they're both off im good, they're both identical computers dell inspiron 150 laptop
[03:47] <ForzaPalermo> i need to change my ssh localhost password
[03:47] <ph0rensic> yah i just tried it myself .... compiz is great huh?
[03:47] <jcg42> To access files on a web server withing my own internal LAN is it better to use FTP, Samba, SSH Filesystem, or something else? What about over internet?
[03:47] <billy> levander: ive done it before, while the computer was on.. and it still works
[03:47] <levander> billy: suit yourself, but i'd try the instructions i posted
[03:47] <Flannel> ForzaPalermo: Thats the same as your user password.  Do you have another account on the box that has admin rights?
[03:47] <thinkpaduser> chris0, just blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add ath_hal to /etc/modules.autoload/ whatever file
[03:47] <billy> levander: cuz im an idiot lol
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo>  Flannel no
[03:48] <billy> levander: im damn happy i didn't fry my HD
[03:48] <mouseboyx> in the ubuntu php -apache2 how do i disable php from executing in certain directories.
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> see i tried using pubnlic private keys... didnt work, so i purged everything, and i reinstalled ssh
[03:48] <pyutaros> Anyone ever seen that error?
[03:48] <Flannel> ForzaPalermo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword will walk you through it.  You'll need to reboot into recovery mode (and then do some stuff locally)
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> now i cant get it started
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> but my login password works
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> for everyhting else
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> root, etc
[03:48] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yep...I'll probably do that eventually, when I have more time, and can deal with borkage....My computer got borked a couple weeks ago and I don't want a repeat experience of that.....
[03:48] <billy> brb guys
[03:48] <Flannel> ForzaPalermo: thats the same as your ssh password.  You've got some other stuff going on then with SSH
[03:49] <thinkpaduser> chris0, it can be a headache
[03:49] <Lorenzo_> !it
[03:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:49] <greenmanspirit> hello, i was surfing around the forums with no luck so I thought I would ask here. Does anyone know of a good widget type application that will work as a slideshow for photos i tell it to cycle though?
[03:49] <ForzaPalermo> is there another way to fully clean it besides purging it from synaptec
[03:49] <Flannel> ForzaPalermo: do: sudo apt-get remove --purge openssh-server && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:49] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yep
[03:49] <ForzaPalermo> shit i got it
[03:49] <Flannel> ForzaPalermo: No, complete removal via synaptic should do the trick.  You can verify that /etc/sshd/ is gone after that.
[03:49] <ForzaPalermo> i was doing sudo ssh localhost
[03:49] <billy> !oh my|ForzaPalermo
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh my - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <ForzaPalermo> lol
[03:50] <isaacj87> greenmanspirit: do you mean something like screenlets?
[03:50] <billy> lmao
[03:50] <ForzaPalermo> didnt pay attention
[03:50] <ForzaPalermo> i was getting nervous
[03:50] <n00bness> can you set a static ip address on vmware in ubuntu ?
[03:50] <chris0> thinkpaduser: hey, do you have a webcam on your computer? If s, what program do you use to get it to work?
[03:50] <cheeby> hi.  how do install mysql with readline support?
[03:50] <ph0rensic> greenmanspirit, I think you can try screenlets
[03:50] <thinkpaduser> chris0, nah i don't
[03:50] <isaacj87> greenmanspirit: I'm not sure if screenlets has a slideshow screenlet
[03:50] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i haven't messed with one before
[03:50] <ph0rensic> isaacj87, oh hah.. you nailed it already
[03:50] <NetEcho> Does anyone here know how to get Ubuntu to start playing audio on a USB headset instead of the speakers?
[03:51] <isaacj87> ph0rensic: haha
[03:51] <ph0rensic> isaacj87, Im pretty sure there is one on gnome-look
[03:51] <isaacj87> ph0rensic: oh really? good stuff
[03:51] <greenmanspirit> isaacj87, i dont know what screenlets is, but i just mean something that will cycle through my photos kind of like those digital frames they have in the store now
[03:51] <chris0> thinkpaduser: ok. I got it working once. Not that I ever use it, but I like having things working.
[03:51] <ph0rensic> isaacj87, whether it works or not, thats a different story..
[03:51] <isaacj87> greenmanspirit: hmm, like ph0rensic said...I think there is something like that
[03:51] <Lorenzo_> hi, aMule keeps crashing since I updated to Ubuntu Gutsy 64 bit. Amule version I am running is 2.1.3.3, do i need 2.2 and how do install it?
[03:52] <yyeago> Can someone help me understand this doc --
[03:52] <yyeago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPFatClients
[03:52] <isaacj87> greenmanspirit: http://www.screenlets.org/index.php/Home
[03:52] <Frogzoo> screenlets are buggy as
[03:52] <yyeago> Its preliminary so it doesn't go into a lot of detail
[03:52] <thinkpaduser> chris0, you are true Linux nerd then!  "Hey, I wonder if I can get that to work?  Not that I will use it but..." :)
[03:52] <isaacj87> greenmanspirit: give it a try...couldn't hurt, but like another user said, screenlets are pretty buggy
[03:52] <Lorenzo_> !it
[03:52] <ph0rensic> greenmanspirit, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/SlideShow+Screenlet?content=64120
[03:52] <yyeago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPFatClients <--- I am not understanding the steps that begin with 'chroot'. what are these effectively doing?
[03:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:53] <power788> How can I find out why a program is running at startup? It is not in Sessions or init.d, anywhere else to look?
[03:53] <isaacj87> ph0rensic: wow, that's a really cool screenlet...I think i'm gonna give it a try
[03:54] <NetEcho> Does anyone here know how to get Ubuntu to start playing audio on a USB headset instead of the speakers?
[03:54] <chris0> thinkpaduser: I still have my Gentoo 2006.1 CD because I like installing it from scratch. So, yeah, pretty much
[03:54] <ph0rensic> isaacj87, let me know, I haven't installed screenlets in my new 64 bit install yet
[03:54] <billy> levander: what was that suggestion about hard drives you had?
[03:54] <ph0rensic> Frogzoo, i think screenlets are way better than the desklets
[03:54] <yyeago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPFatClients <--- is /opt/lisp on this doc referring to the Server or the fat client??
[03:54] <yyeago> opt/ltsp
[03:54] <prashant> how to deleate items frm desktop
[03:55] <ph0rensic> prashant, del
[03:55] <power788> How do I reverse the  "Remember My Currently Running Applications" in Sessions?
[03:55] <ViperH> what is up?
[03:55] <greenmanspirit> thank you all
[03:55] <prashant> it shows error
[03:55] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i love Ubuntu for many reasons, but Gentoo seems to be more fun tinkering with for me
[03:55] <isaacj87> greenmanspirit: no problem! let me know how it goes
[03:55] <billy> is there any problem with switching hard drives between two identical comps (dell inspiron 1501 notebook)?
[03:56] <dsmith_> standard rdp connecting to ubuntu is insecure correct?
[03:56] <chris0> thinkpaduser: it is. I'm using ubuntu because I can reinstall it in 1 hour, instead of 24-36 hours.
[03:56] <greenmanspirit> isaacj87, well i am hitting the sack now, i will play with it tomorrow and come back to the irc with how it went over
[03:56] <thinkpaduser> chris0, Ubuntu is for the rest of the machines i don't play with.  my gf would beat my a$$ if she couldn't get on Myspace
[03:56] <thinkpaduser> chris0, excatly
[03:56] <NetEcho> Does anyone here know how to get Ubuntu to start playing audio on a USB headset instead of the speakers?
[03:56] <ph0rensic> billy, there could be problems doing that
[03:56] <prashant> u dont hav permission to modify its parent folder
[03:57] <ph0rensic> prashant, on the desktop??
[03:57] <thinkpaduser> chris0, so you know, not to push Gentoo on the Ubuntu board since i adore both...
[03:57] <illmortal> anyone know why my resolution won't change when i configure kboot?... it's stuck at 1080i @ 1920x1080 and refresh rate @ 25hz.
[03:57] <prashant> ya
[03:57] <billy> ph0rensic: like what?
[03:57] <chris0> NetEcho: you should be able to select your headset in System -> Preferences -> Sound.....
[03:57] <thinkpaduser> chris0, you can install Sabayon Linux and you have all the work done for you
[03:57] <NetEcho> chris0, I do believe I did that but I'll check again
[03:57] <chris0> NetEcho: ok....
[03:58] <billy> ph0rensic: what problems could be encountered by switching the harddrives?
[03:58] <chris0> thinkpaduser: yeah, but that's missing the point..... :D
[03:58] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i suppose it is isn't it :P
[03:58] <billy> ph0rensic: i also need some help with the compix stuff
[03:58] <ph0rensic> billy, the drive may not boot properly is the first one .. you could try it to test it
[03:58] <NetEcho> wow
[03:58] <Traveler8> i am getting that sudo hostname error
[03:58] <Traveler8> i cant figure out how to fix it
[03:58] <chris0> NetEcho: the other thing to try is an lsusb and see if your headset is recognized.
[03:58] <NetEcho> chris0, its still playing out my speakers but now I don't have volume control
[03:58] <Jouva> I can't seem to get my OpenVPN connection quite working with the network manager plugin. The connection works just fine for my Windows PC. I went with essentially the same config (there were a few things missing but nothing that seemed critical) and I keep getting "Linux route add command failed: shell command exited with error status 7"
[03:58] <billy> ph0rensic: whats the worst that could happen?
[03:58] <thinkpaduser> chris0, i used to do that with Kororaa XGL when Compiz came out
[03:59] <NetEcho> chris0, it says Logitech USB headset in the volume controls
[03:59] <NetEcho> chris0,  ah there we go
[03:59] <chris0> NetEcho:got it?
[03:59] <NetEcho> chris0,  yea totem needed to be restarted
[03:59] <ph0rensic> billy, if it doesn't work just dont write to the drive and switch it back.. remember there are settings that could be different even though the pcs are identical (MBR etc..)
[04:00] <billy> whats MBR?
[04:00] <chris0> NetEcho: happy listening!
[04:00] <prashant> after using del it shows u dont hav perrimision change it or its parent folder
[04:00] <ph0rensic> billy, Master Boot Record
[04:00] <chris0> billy: master boot record
[04:00] <palomer> hello
[04:00] <palomer> what's the best app to rip CDs?
[04:00] <billy> ph0rensic: what is it tho?
[04:00] <billy> ph0rensic: what does it do?
[04:00] <NetEcho> chris0,  now I can get to work on a game wiki :P
[04:00] <Jouva> !best | palomer
[04:00] <ubotu> palomer: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[04:00] <yyeago> what does this command do? I don't get the 'chroot' part of it  sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/fati386 apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[04:00] <illmortal> anyone know why my resolution won't change when i configure kboot?... it's stuck at 1080i @ 1920x1080 and refresh rate @ 25hz.
[04:00] <chris0> NetEcho: have funsky
[04:01] <prashant> after using del it shows u dont hav perrimision change it or its parent folder
[04:01] <ph0rensic> billy, In short, it tells your computer how to load the OS properly
[04:01]  * chris0 needs to go to bed
[04:02] <Jouva> I can't seem to get my OpenVPN connection quite working with the network manager plugin. The connection works just fine for my Windows PC. I went with essentially the same config (there were a few things missing but nothing that seemed critical) and I keep getting "Linux route add command failed: shell command exited with error status 7"
[04:02] <billy> phorensic: so what if i install ubuntu on the other hard drive before switching them?
[04:03] <ph0rensic> billy, I cant say with any certainty it will work without error
[04:03] <cheeby> hi.  how do I install readline support for mysql?
[04:03] <matthias> hi
[04:03] <billy> ph0rensic: oh okay.. and about compix.. its still not working.. maybe i don't have all the updates required downloaded for it to work?
[04:03] <cheeby> would like to use vi keys in mysql-navigator.
[04:04] <speeddemon8803> !update > speeddemon8803
[04:04] <matthias> have anyone runned the script for inspiron computers from the page mylittle ubuntu guide ?
[04:04] <CorrosionX> Hey guys I'm trying to install Ubuntu server on an old Pentium 3 850, but I don't get it as soon as I choose "install" on the boot screen I only get a blank screen and a cursor... any idea?
[04:04] <ph0rensic> billy, hmmm that was odd... you have updated graphics cards and it said something about the module missing or something?
[04:04] <billy> yeah
[04:04] <billy> lemme give you the exact message in a sec
[04:04] <matthias> that supposely suppose to install ati drivers and other stuff ...
[04:04] <donomo> how can i get the .config for my ubuntu kernel?
[04:05] <matthias> for dell computers ...
[04:05] <J-a-k-e> Has anyone else noticed that ubuntu has inferior sound quality compared to windows. Or is it just me and the way I'be got things setup
[04:05] <matthias> any experiance ...
[04:05] <ph0rensic> CorrosionX, Server install CD?
[04:05] <billy> ph0rensic: "the composite etention is not available"
[04:05] <donomo> i do not find a .config file in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/
[04:05] <CorrosionX> ph0rensic: yup
[04:05] <CorrosionX> I'm trying with 7.10 server but I have some 7.10, 6.06, 5.10 desktop disks and they do the same thing
[04:06] <ph0rensic> billy, run fglrxinfo in term and paste output to pastebin
[04:07] <illmortal> can anyone help me with my resolution problem? =\
[04:07] <DG19075> J-a-k-e: I've noticed that too. Audio sounds rougher Under Ubuntu than Windows
[04:07] <ph0rensic> CorrosionX, hmmm Strange .... I haven't used the server install disk in a while cause I dont have a production machine, I sometimes run a local server so I download using apt w/i the desktop install
[04:08] <matthias> illemortal: system->preferance->screen resolution
[04:08] <donomo> found it in /boot/config*
[04:08] <billy> ph0rensic:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57662/
[04:08] <CorrosionX> none of my cds work and I got a case of 6.06s once
[04:08] <yyeago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPFatClients  <--- *could someone please* explain to me where this doc explains the client server relationship?
[04:08] <J-a-k-e> oh good, so im not the only person I've spent all afternoon tinkering and decided it sounded rather good. Tho when i went back to windows there's just no comparison
[04:09] <yo__> sorry bout that guys
[04:09] <yo__> comp turned off...
[04:09] <CorrosionX> J-a-k-e: i thnk the problem is th esound engine...I once found one that sounded good but forgot which one... I hope the new PulseAudio gets better because it's just not cutting it for me either
[04:10] <DG19075> I'm a broadcast engineer, so I notice those things, and use this machine to produce stuff for a station I work at.
[04:10] <f43> does anyone know where the update folder is ??? i want to back all of my updates :)
[04:12] <DG19075> CorrosionX: Just wish you could remember. It would help a LOT...mp3's ound like crap comapred to W2K
[04:12] <J-a-k-e> ah, I've been using ALSA, time to go and google the other audio engines i think
[04:12] <jcg42> To access files on a web server withing my own internal LAN is it better to use FTP, Samba, SSH Filesystem, or something else? What about over internet?
[04:13] <rikkimaru> Does windows have to be installed on the 1st primary partition?
[04:13] <Adylas> DG19075 J-a-k-e CorrosionX, For my part, Ubuntu sounds great with my M-Audio revolution 7.1. I would even say that its better (definition) then in windows.
[04:13] <Flannel> rikkimaru: no.  It just has to think it is.
[04:13] <Flannel> rikkimaru: (you can fool it with GRUB)
[04:13] <rikkimaru> Flannel: is there a way to do that?
[04:13] <speeddemon8803> !grub > rikkimaru
[04:13] <Flannel> rikkimaru: GRUB's map
[04:14] <Traveler8> how should i fix my hosts file?????
[04:14] <speeddemon8803> rikkimaru...see private message from ubotu for information.
[04:14] <power788> Does anyone know how to find out why a program is starting automatically on login?
[04:14] <J-a-k-e> Being something of an audio nut my system sound is considerably better than self powered pc speakers so it's quite obvious to me too
[04:15] <rikkimaru> Flannel: the problem I'm having is installing windows.  When i run the install CD, it claims there is no space avaliable
[04:15] <rikkimaru> Flannel: GRUB doesn't even run when the CD boots, right?
[04:15] <Traveler8> i cant sudo
[04:15] <ph0rensic> yo__, In your xorg.conf .. I think under the device section there should be a line that says Option "composite" "on" can yo look?
[04:15] <Traveler8> how do i fix my hosts file
[04:15] <Traveler8> the /etc/hosts
[04:16] <Flannel> rikkimaru: oh, thats different.  Do you have any space available?
[04:16] <rikkimaru> Flannel: yes, and it's at the front of the disk
[04:16] <J-a-k-e> Adylas: That's interesting, I've got a creative xifi xtreme audio running a custom driver through windows. What sound engine do you run through linux?
[04:16] <rikkimaru> Flannel: but my current ubuntu install is /dev/sda1
[04:16] <Starnestommy> Traveler8: go into recovery mode and edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname to have your computer's hostname
[04:16] <CorrosionX> ok so I'm trying with an old 5.10 install disk, it's booting up the install and it stopped at "Checking 'hlt' instruction"\
[04:16] <Flannel> rikkimaru: once you create a new partition infront of sda1, it'll become sda2.
[04:16] <Flannel> CorrosionX: 5.10 is no longer supported, any reason you can't try a newer one?
[04:17] <rikkimaru> Flannel: how can I do that?
[04:17] <CorrosionX> Cause it won't give me textual error messages
[04:17] <rikkimaru> Flannel: if i try with fdisk it claims its already taken
[04:17] <ph0rensic> jcg42, Im guessing if it is within your lan why not use samba or NAS
[04:17] <Flannel> rikkimaru: In the windows installer, you'll be able to create a partition.
[04:17] <CorrosionX> I tried em all but only this one gives me a clue with it doesn't work
[04:17] <Flannel> CorrosionX: try the alternate CD instead of the Desktop CD
[04:17] <rikkimaru> Flannel: hmm... I'll try, but I don't think it let me
[04:17] <rikkimaru> Flannel: brb
[04:18] <billy> whats the debugging command someone told me earlier?
[04:18] <CorrosionX> I don't have one of those available right now... but what does that 'hlt' instruction hangup mean?
[04:18] <billy> its like something -L BILLY
[04:18] <zelrikriando> I might have a rootkit on my machine Oo
[04:19] <palomer> how am I supposed to find out what CD ripper to use?
[04:19] <billy> whats the Debugging command for LAN?
[04:19] <D-Unit> How do i make virtualbox windows xp detect my usb external hard drive?
[04:19] <ph0rensic> zelrikriando, hey
[04:19] <zelrikriando> ph0rensic: I have a problem
[04:19] <jaderaven> im haveing a hell of a time finding beryl... anyone know where i can download it from...
[04:20] <Flannel> jaderaven: its compiz-fusion now
[04:20] <jaderaven> thank you much
[04:20] <billy> levander you still in here?
[04:20] <speeddemon8803> !compiz-fusion | jaderaven
[04:20] <jaderaven> is it a hard install?
[04:20] <ubotu> jaderaven: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[04:20] <zelrikriando> anyone knows about rootkits?
[04:20] <ph0rensic> zelrikriando, sounds like it
[04:21] <wols_> !anyone | zelrikriando
[04:21] <ubotu> zelrikriando: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:21] <billy> ph0rensic:
[04:21] <speeddemon8803> !rootkits
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootkits - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <billy> ph0rensic: can you help me with some LAN issues real quick?
[04:21] <billy> !LAN
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <speeddemon8803> hmm...strange, thought it had something on rootkits for you zelrikriando
[04:21] <wols_> !info chkrootkit
[04:21] <[Jerry_Teps]> Hey, can someone help? everytime I try to install ubuntu and I get up to installing GRUB it says "Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed. This is a fatal error."  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:21] <ubotu> chkrootkit (source: chkrootkit): Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.47-1.1 (gutsy), package size 264 kB, installed size 740 kB
[04:22] <ph0rensic> billy, dont know much about linux networking, I'll try
[04:22] <wols_> [Jerry_Teps]: fdisk -l
[04:22] <speeddemon8803> thanks wols_ :)
[04:22] <presumptious85> hello all
[04:22] <rikkimaru> Flannel: It doesn't let me get to the partitioning system
[04:22] <ph0rensic> D-Unit, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627847
[04:22] <speeddemon8803> i couldnt quite remember the name..but..to much avail someone did :)
[04:22] <presumptious85> how yall doing 2nite?
[04:22] <billy> ph0rensic: whats the command to get this output? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57661/
[04:22] <[Jerry_Teps]> k thanks
[04:22] <rikkimaru> Flannel: is there a way I can change my ubuntu install from /dev/sda1 to something else?
[04:22] <wols_> zelrikriando: there is also debsums
[04:22] <rikkimaru> Flannel: or at least whichi primary partition it is
[04:22] <D-Unit> ph0rensic, im doing it ;)
[04:23] <ph0rensic> billy, haha dunno
[04:23] <presumptious85> can anyone recommend a FTP client for me?
[04:23] <billy> crap.. thanks
[04:23] <zelrikriando> right now my webbrowsers arent working
[04:23] <zelrikriando> but IRC still works...
[04:23] <ph0rensic> zelrikriando, geez what did you do!
[04:23] <DG19075> presumptuous85: gFTP, FileZilla
[04:24] <rikkimaru> Is there a way to change which primary partition my ubuntu install is on?
[04:24] <presumptious85> i have tried both
[04:24] <wols_> billy: smbclient
[04:24] <presumptious85> but cant seem to configure it properly
[04:24] <jaderaven> when i run the sudo command while tryign to install compiz it asks me for a password... i dont remember setting one... anyone know what the default is or is there one?
[04:24] <wols_> rikkimaru: yes but why change it?
[04:24] <presumptious85> i got flashfxp for windows
[04:24] <presumptious85> that i use to download
[04:24] <illmortal> Can someone help me with my resolution problem?... Please =\
[04:24] <wols_> jaderaven: your user's password for sudo
[04:24] <Starnestommy> jaderaven: it should be your user's login password
[04:24] <rikkimaru> wols_: I'm trying to dual-boot w/ windows, and I can't install windows unless it's the first partition (from what I gather)
[04:25] <wols_> !ask | illmortal
[04:25] <ubotu> illmortal: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:25] <wols_> rikkimaru: you are wrong
[04:25] <billy> any one know the command to get this kind of out put? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57661/
[04:25] <wols_> billy: I just told you
[04:25] <rikkimaru> wols_: I'd be happy to do something else.  Could you help me?
[04:25] <wols_> rikkimaru: ##windows
[04:25] <wols_> rikkimaru: what windows?
[04:25] <ph0rensic> billy, he said smbclient
[04:25] <rikkimaru> wols_: XP
[04:25] <illmortal> If anyone think they can fix my resolution issue... please check this link, this will explain my problem: Can someone help me with my resolution problem?... Please =\
[04:25] <CaptObvious> how do I set the DNS suffix of my machine?  now if I do hostname -f I get sovereign.wan - how do I change the .wan part?
[04:25] <wols_> rikkimaru: that can install on ANY primary partition
[04:25] <rikkimaru> wols_: did # #windows mean to ask in the windows channel
[04:25] <billy> wols_ thanks
[04:26] <billy> wols_didnt see that lol
[04:26] <DG19075> you can also do ftp://username:password@ftpsite.com if you user Firefox
[04:26] <illmortal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4419454&postcount=3
[04:26] <wols_> rikkimaru: yes it does mean it
[04:26] <rikkimaru> wols_: when I put in the install CD, and hit enter, it claims there is no space avaliable
[04:26] <presumptious85> lol
[04:26] <wols_> !ps3
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <presumptious85> DG19075:  well its got to be an ftp client
[04:26] <wols_> rikkimaru: of course you can't have all space partitioned for ubuntu you need some free, unpartitioned space
[04:26] <DG19075> I sue that at my radio station to access files on misitry FTP servers...Works well
[04:27] <wols_> !gparted | rikkimaru
[04:27] <ubotu> rikkimaru: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[04:27] <presumptious85> for security reasons
[04:27] <wols_> presumptious85: thatg is laughable
[04:27] <wols_> presumptious85: not to mention idiocy
[04:27] <ph0rensic> ftp and security?
[04:27] <rikkimaru> wols_: I used that recently to move my ubuntu partition off the front of the disk, can it also change which partition it is?
[04:27] <presumptious85> hmmm
[04:27] <presumptious85> yea
[04:27] <wols_> rikkimaru: you can change the size of partitons. changing its name won't help
[04:27] <presumptious85> cuz i download bootlegs
[04:28] <Devourer> Is sudo su how I become root?
[04:28] <wols_> !warez | presumptious85
[04:28] <ubotu> presumptious85: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[04:28] <presumptious85> yeaa u can call the cops
[04:28] <rikkimaru> wols_: there is 13Gigs free at the frontt of tthe disk
[04:28] <Starnestommy> Devourer: sudo -i, but remember to only use it with extreme caution
[04:28] <ph0rensic> Devourer, sort of you dont actually become root but your commands run with root privs
[04:28] <DG19075> I do it this way to download ministry programs for my radio station to air
[04:28] <wols_> rolf_: then windows WILL install
[04:28] <presumptious85> uh oh
[04:28] <presumptious85> i'm sorry
[04:28] <D-Unit> i set up the folder to share in virtualbox y wont it work?
[04:28] <free1> sftp or scp to move files from my local machine to a remote machine?
[04:29] <CorrosionX> So I got the install to boot further than the "Checking 'hlt' instruction" part by giving the no-hlt parameter to install (on the 5.10 version) so I can see it installing further but once I get to the language selection my keyboard isn't working anymore... am I screwed or what?
[04:29] <ph0rensic> D-Unit, I was having problems earlier too...
[04:29] <Devourer> Starnestommy, well.... I'm trying to run the commmand jhbuild build, and it is trying to automatically create need directories, but when I do sudo jhbuild build nothing happens.
[04:29] <wols_> rikkimaru: can it be your windows doesn't detect a hdd altogehter? cause if it would it would tell you to at least delete the ubuntu partition. snce it doesn't it's not what you say it is
[04:29] <D-Unit> ph0rensic, did u solve the problems?
[04:29] <ph0rensic> D-Unit, No let me look at it again
[04:29] <wols_> CorrosionX: 5.10 is not supported anymore. EOL
[04:29] <billy> ph0rensic: i think my favorite part about ubuntu is that you can put stuff on a different "desktop"
[04:29] <D-Unit> ph0rensic, k
[04:29] <jaderaven> okay you guys will prolly get tired of answering my questions soon, but i have installed compiz-fusion and did the replace command to use it on my current session, but i dont notice a difference.... do i need to enable suff first?
[04:29] <presumptious85> does anyone have a Hauppage HVR-1600?
[04:29] <wols_> billy: every OS has that
[04:30] <wols_> !anyone | presumptious85
[04:30] <ubotu> presumptious85: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:30] <sudobash> is there a channel for the Ubuntu Embedded OS?
[04:30] <billy> wols_ how do you do it in xp?
[04:30] <wols_> !compiz | jaderaven
[04:30] <ubotu> jaderaven: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[04:30] <wols_> billy: tons of progams which do it. I use litestep's vwm
[04:30] <rikkimaru> wols_: brb, going to write down the error message this time
[04:30] <jaderaven> yeah but that tells me how to install it no?
[04:30] <alandd> I cannot successfully install emdebian-tools on my brand new Kubuntu 7.10 install
[04:30] <wols_> rikkimaru: don't come here again with it. go to ##windows
[04:30] <billy> wols_ no im talkin about how it comes stock with ubuntu
[04:30] <billy> wols_ and its easy and simple
[04:30] <wols_> !info emdebian-tools
[04:31] <ubotu> emdebian-tools (source: emdebian-tools): emdebian crossbuilding tool set. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2.0 (gutsy), package size 55 kB, installed size 232 kB
[04:31] <rikkimaru> wols_: I am
[04:31] <Devourer> Crap... is there a default root password?
[04:31] <wols_> Devourer: there is no root password
[04:31] <billy> the default root password is your login password
[04:31] <billy> devourer
[04:31] <wols_> billy: wromng
[04:31] <ViperH> none but you can change it easily if you really want to have root access
[04:31] <wols_> ViperH: stip!
[04:31] <billy> wols: thats how it is with me...
[04:31] <wols_> stop!
[04:32] <presumptious85> i cannot get Hauppage HVR  1600 to work?
[04:32] <alandd> This morning it was suggest that remove all repos from synaptic and install from the live CD.  This I have just tried but it appears that emdebian-tools is not on the live CD.
[04:32] <wols_> !doesn't work | presumptious85
[04:32] <ubotu> presumptious85: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:32] <cmatheson> i'm looking to buy a usb bluetooth dongle, but i'm not sure how cautious i need to be about hardware support--do only certain dongles work well in linux?  or am i pretty ok to just buy anything?
[04:32] <wols_> alandd: what error did you get?
[04:32] <presumptious85> gimme a break
[04:32] <wols_> hcl | cmatheson
[04:32] <wols_> !hcl | cmatheson
[04:32] <ubotu> cmatheson: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[04:32] <presumptious85> lol
[04:32] <alandd> Let me try again with apt-get and I'll show you.
[04:32] <Devourer> wols_, how would I use nothing as a password? I used nothing with su and that didn't work and I used my login password and that didn't work.
[04:32] <flaco> hey all... I'm triyin to compile a program... and I get an error because the glib-2.0 , gobject-2.0 and gthread-2.0 are not found... I check in the repositories and those packages does not exists.... any ideas?
[04:32] <free1> I'm talking that command line copying of files from local machine to remote machine... what is the relevant command on that there?
[04:33] <presumptious85> i tried the driver from linuxtv and that cuased an issue with my video card
[04:33] <Frogzoo> cmatheson: any linux hardware you should check first you can get a driver, better safe that way
[04:33] <ViperH> wols_stip?
[04:33] <CorrosionX> The only reason I'm mentionning 5.10 anymore is because it's the only one who gives accurate error messages, so I found out it froze at the hlt part. I tried the no-hlt option on the 7.10 server disc and it says "irq 11 nobody cared (try with irqpoll option) ... so I tried that and now I only get a blank screen
[04:33] <cmatheson> Frogzoo: thanks
[04:33] <bazhang> flaco: what app?
[04:34] <flaco> is the webkit gtk port
[04:34] <free1> what's a good ftp client for ubuntu?
[04:34] <bazhang> flaco does the package have a name?
[04:34] <free1> holla
[04:34] <Devourer> Should my sudo password be the same as my su password?
[04:34] <wols_> ViperH: stop telling people how to set root passwords
[04:34] <wols_> Devourer: no
[04:34] <flaco> there is no package... I build from the sources
[04:34] <wols_> Devourer: your password for sudo is your user's password
[04:34] <Frogzoo> Devourer: yes
[04:34] <bazhang> Devourer: only use sudo its safer that way
[04:34] <ViperH> I didn't say how I said it could be changed if they wanted
[04:34] <Starnestommy> flaco: try libglib2.0-dev
[04:35] <ViperH> what bazhag said
[04:35] <Devourer> bazhang, but sudo won't work the command I'm doing... when I don't use sudo it does work.
[04:35] <Devourer> with*
[04:35] <ViperH> you can really mess up your system if you mess up
[04:35] <billy> can you run counterstrike in linux?
[04:35] <bazhang> Devourer: what are you trying to do p[ease explain
[04:35] <jrib> billy: through wine, yes
[04:36] <billy> jrib:will it run smooth like it did in xp?
[04:36] <ViperH> billy through vmware also.
[04:36] <ViperH> odss are no
[04:36] <ViperH> odds are no.
[04:36] <billy> bummer
[04:36] <prince_jammys> Devourer: your sudo password is the same as your user's password
[04:36] <wols_> billy: appdb.winehq.com
[04:36] <Devourer> bazhang, I am trying to do jhbuild build, and it will go through and try and build GTK+ but it needs to make some directories which it doesn't have permission to do so I guess I need sudo jhbuild build, but when I do that, nothing happens, it just comes with the default prompt.
[04:36] <wols_> and yes it will run fine afaik
[04:36] <mattgyver83> Hi room, why (for my wifi machines) must i always restart my router when my IP changes?  Is there a way to not have to do this?
[04:36] <wols_> Devourer: why do you build gtk?
[04:37] <bazhang> billy: you should check out the appdb for wine--pretty impressive what games can run well--if you have the card for it ;]
[04:37] <Devourer> wols_, well, it is win32 GTK+.
[04:37] <wols_> Devourer: cool. wrong channel here. please ask elsewhere
[04:37] <billy> bazhang: ATI radeon
[04:37] <nickrud> Devourer: build it in your home (but wols_ is right)
[04:37] <lkthomas> hey guys
[04:37] <CorrosionX> When I try to install with no-hlt it gives me "irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the irqpoll option) handlers: c8837e70 ata_interrupt+0x0/0x1f0 [libata]) disabling irq 11..... what does that mean?
[04:37] <bazhang> billy heh but which ati radeon ;]
[04:37] <Devourer> wols_, my problem I think pertains to using sudo and whatnot which is not really a GTK+ issue right?
[04:37] <lkthomas> how come I can't find php5-fcgi on apt-cache ?
[04:37] <alandd> wols_: My log from this morning is here: http://pastebin.com/d651e89c4 and I get the same results just now.
[04:37] <billy> bazhang: 1100 i believe?
[04:38] <wols_> Devourer: you building for windows is not a ubuntu problem...
[04:38] <bazhang> billy: you seen the appdb yet?
[04:38] <Devourer> wols_, I'm building a library for Ubuntu...
[04:38] <billy> bazhang: nope
[04:38] <Devourer> wols_, and this library happens to be Windows related.
[04:38] <bazhang> billy just a sec..
[04:38] <Jouva> I can't seem to get my OpenVPN connection quite working with the network manager plugin. The connection works just fine for my Windows PC. I went with essentially the same config (there were a few things missing but nothing that seemed critical) and I keep getting "Linux route add command failed: shell command exited with error status 7". Any suggestions?
[04:38] <alandd> wols_: bot_ and Jack_Sparrow were worried this morning about the part "Unable to determine apt-cache policy for Debian main! at /var/lib/dpkg/info/emdebian-tools.postinst line 132."
[04:38] <wols_> Devourer: how can it be?
[04:39] <billy> but i gotta go to sleep y'all ive been stayin up way too late messing with ubuntu
[04:39] <billy> ill be back in tomorrow probably
[04:39] <nickrud> bazhang: key there is the debian repo thing. It's not modified for ubuntu
[04:39] <Devourer> wols_, Well... the library is for Ubuntu, it would never build on Windows...
[04:39] <billy> bazhang will you be here tomorrow about 330 pst?
[04:39] <wols_> alandd: I am too. bad package. as a workaround you can put a dbeian repo in your sources list and apt-update then try again
[04:39] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3731 billy check this ;]
[04:39] <bazhang> billy I never leave ;]
[04:39] <billy> k h/o
[04:40] <alandd> wols_: do you have a pointer to the right repo?  I don't want to "disturb" my system with the wrong mix of packages.
[04:40] <wols_> alandd: the pint is to have the repo but NOT to install anything
[04:40] <ttuttle> hey, where can I find the man pages for C library functions?
[04:40] <wols_> alandd: deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
[04:41] <bazhang> nickrud for devourer's issue? sorry was spacing out.. ;]
[04:41] <alandd> wols_: thanks
[04:41] <wols_> ttuttle: libc6-dev
[04:41] <ttuttle> wols_: Thanks a bunch!
[04:41] <Devourer> wols_, sorry, I think I was asking the wrong question.
[04:41] <ViperH> ttuttle http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806-7023/6jfu564e5?a=expand
[04:41] <Devourer> How do I add an account to the sudoers file?
[04:41] <arakthor> While idling, my laptop in ubuntu experiences high loads and feels sluggish - anybody have any idea what might be hampering performance or how to improve it?
[04:42] <ttuttle> ViperH: I wanted to install them on the computer, but thanks.
[04:42] <BIOSboiler> hey has anyone ever used x 11 forwarding?
[04:42] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: yes
[04:42] <nickrud> bazhang: no, alandd . I ran across this a few days ago, had the guy put the postinst on pastebin. but wols_ 's idea may very well work. I just don't tell people to add debian repos.
[04:42] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: ssh -X host.
[04:42] <BIOSboiler> ttuttle sweet
[04:42] <bazhang> arakthor open a terminal and type top to see what is eating cpu
[04:42] <BIOSboiler> is it hard to setup?
[04:42] <ViperH> Devourer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201468
[04:42] <Devourer> ViperH, thanks.
[04:42] <billy> dang bazzhang
[04:42] <rikkimaru> How do i use fdisk to see if space is unallocated?
[04:42] <wols_> alandd: just remove the debian again as soon as the package is installed
[04:42] <billy> aight well i g2g ttu all later
[04:42] <bazhang> nickrud sorry I missed that ;]
[04:42] <BIOSboiler> is ssh -X host a package to download
[04:42] <BIOSboiler> tttutle
[04:43] <wols_> alandd: and what /var/log/dpkg.log like a hawk what it does
[04:43] <bazhang> cya billy
[04:43] <nickrud> bazhang: np, you're running a lot of threads
[04:43] <D-Unit> ph0rensic, any progress?
[04:43] <wols_> alandd: s/what/watch
[04:43] <bazhang> nickrud s/running/ruining/ ;]
[04:43] <nickrud> rikkimaru: sudo fdisk -l  (but I prefer sudo cfdisk /dev/device)
[04:43] <BIOSboiler> hey ttutle r u therE?
[04:44] <ph0rensic> D-Unit, nope.. I keep getting errors too even though I replicated the tutorial exactly
[04:44] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: yes
[04:44] <alandd> wols_: nickrud: thanks for the help.  I'm going the repo route and I'll watch the log
[04:44] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: no, ssh is a command
[04:44] <BIOSboiler> please help me
[04:44] <BIOSboiler> is know of ssh
[04:44] <BIOSboiler> like port 22
[04:44] <BIOSboiler> into terminal
[04:44] <D-Unit> ph0rensic, i guess ill try a real windows comp then
[04:44] <wols_> !enter | BIOSboiler
[04:44] <BIOSboiler> so hyod do i setup X 11 forwarding
[04:44] <ubotu> BIOSboiler: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:44] <D-Unit> ph0rensic, but its slow
[04:44] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: you type "ssh -X" followed by the hostname of the machine you want to connect to.
[04:44] <BIOSboiler> !enter
[04:44] <yo> bazhang: ATI Radeon Xpress 1150... is it a good card for runninc CS in wine?
[04:44] <BIOSboiler> what does that mean?
[04:45] <BIOSboiler> !enter
[04:45] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: What are you doing with "!enter"?
[04:45] <rikkimaru> nickrud: does FS Type Free Space, mean it's unallocated?
[04:45] <speeddemon8803> BIOSboiler, please read the information ubotu has said.
[04:45] <nickrud> rikkimaru: yes
[04:45] <BIOSboiler> oh sorry
[04:45] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Are you familiar with the command line at all?
[04:45] <BIOSboiler> ttutle what should i install to get X11 working?
[04:46] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: If you have Ubuntu you almost certainly have X11 working already.
[04:46] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Do you know how to use the command line in general?
[04:46] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Also, what are you trying to do?
[04:46] <Devourer> How do I un-sudo -i?
[04:46] <ttuttle> Devourer: exit.
[04:46] <Devourer> As undo that action... ttuttle, thanks.
[04:46] <billy> bazhang?
[04:46] <complab> good morning! y cant i hear a sound in my headset? the sound did not redirect to my headset when i jacked it in?
[04:46] <BIOSboiler> ttutle yes
[04:46] <ttuttle> Devourer: No problem.  sudo just starts a subshell, so you can exit it using exit.
[04:47] <BIOSboiler> i use bash
[04:47] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Okay, so ssh opens a shell on another machine.
[04:47] <BIOSboiler> yep
[04:47] <BIOSboiler> i know
[04:47] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: If you type "ssh user@machine", it will let you log on as user on machine.
[04:47] <BIOSboiler> i use putty with xp at work
[04:47] <BIOSboiler> yes Sir
[04:47] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: If you add the -X option to ssh, it will forward X11 connections.  It should handle everything for you.
[04:48] <BIOSboiler> how do i add the -X option
[04:48] <power788> does anyone know why gnome sessions dont work properly? even when everything is unchecked, they all still start at login...any ideas?
[04:48] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Are you using the command-line ssh, or PuTTY?
[04:48] <BIOSboiler> putty
[04:48] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Oh.
[04:48] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: There is an option there.  Let me check.
[04:48] <BIOSboiler> sweet
[04:49] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Alright.  So go to "Tunnels" in the left panel of the PuTTY window.
[04:49] <speeddemon8803> !putty > speeddemon8803
[04:49] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: check off "Enable X11 forwarding".
[04:50] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Do you have an X server running on your Windows machine?  You will need one.
[04:51] <billy> !last bazhang
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about last bazhang - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <Lounge> having trouble getting flashplayer to work on firefox b3
[04:51] <neo_> in our college we have a program /server installed which restrict the access to the internet while opening some websites such as ¨download.com¨ ¨www.orkut.com¨ how can i bypass the server and connect to internet without restriction.
[04:52] <ttuttle> neo_: Er, talk to your IT department.
[04:52] <wols_> neo_: we won't help you bypass your site's internet policies
[04:52] <ttuttle> neo_: #ubuntu is not the place to ask.
[04:52] <ttuttle> == wols_
[04:53] <ttuttle> neo_: Also, what college do you go to, so I can avoid it in the future?
[04:54] <CorrosionX> Is there any way I can start a 7.10 server isntall and see where it freezes?
[04:54] <zelrikriando> ph0rensic: hey
[04:55] <ph0rensic> yah?
[04:55] <alandd> wols, nickrud: I'm not going to do it from the debian repository.  Synaptic came back with a very long list of things to update, including things like apt and other base stuff.  Too disturbing!
[04:55] <ttuttle> neo_: why do they restrict access?  if you need it, why not just ask for it?
[04:56] <Lounge> anyone know how to get flash player to work in firefox b3?
[04:56] <alandd> nickrud: Perhaps I should go the pastebin route of the postinst script.  Are you up for that?
[04:56] <appyJack_> is it acceptable to set the value parameter of a form element to $_SESSION vars rather than $_POST ?
[04:56] <ttuttle> appyJack_: Er, what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[04:57] <appyJack_> ttuttle: DOH! sorry... I'm in the middle of crunch mode and have one too many windows open...
[04:57] <ttuttle> appyJack_: Ah, no problem ;-)
[04:57] <ttuttle> appyJack_: ah, ##php, as I thought.
[04:57] <wols_> alandd: try a debian stable repo then
[04:58] <tyreth> Where in ubuntu is the PATH variable set up?
[04:58] <alandd> Hmm OK, wols_
[04:58] <wols_> alandd: or edit the postinst script
[04:58] <wols_> tyreth: sevreal places
[04:58] <tyreth> wols_, I'd like to add a new location to it - what's the "proper" way to do it then?
[04:59] <CorrosionX> Oh well I guess I'm screwed... doesn't look it's going to boot any ubuntu cd
[04:59] <appyJack_> ttuttle:yeah - but I did manage to get iptables working well on 2 ubu gutsy servers over the last day... wasn't as hard as I thought, but I definitely needed some help here when I locked myself down a little too tight
[04:59] <wols_> tyreth: grep $PATH ~/.*
[04:59] <xp_prg> hi all, I want to setup mod_rewrite on apache2 on ubuntu but I am lost, can anyone help me?
[04:59] <alandd> I've never done that wols_  But, I'll go look at it!
[05:00] <zelrikriando>  can somebody help me with that? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57663/
[05:00] <ttuttle> appyJack_: heh.  iptables can be tricky, but it's *very* helpful.
[05:02] <appyJack_> ttuttle: I used a couple gui firewalls that were easy, but really wanted to know something about how iptables _really_ worked. So, the two servers I set up for myself I didn't install anything. Just wrote rulesets.
[05:02] <BIOSboiler> how do i add the -X option
[05:02] <ttuttle> appyJack_: good!
[05:02] <ttuttle> appyJack_: That's the best way to do it!
[05:02] <tehquickness> Anyone have a sansa view?
[05:03] <BIOSboiler> what is a x server
[05:03] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Er, you can't add the -X option for PuTTY.
[05:03] <BIOSboiler> yes
[05:03] <BIOSboiler>  but what does it do
[05:03] <BIOSboiler> x server?
[05:03] <tehquickness> Or is anyone good with mencoder?
[05:03] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Oh, the -X option is the equivalent of checking off "Enable X11 forwarding" in PuTTY, but for the command-line ssh.
[05:03] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: An X server is the program that displays the windows on your screen.  Windows does not come with one.
[05:04] <ph0rensic> whats difference between xine and gstreamer?
[05:04] <BIOSboiler> can i surf the net at work, with them sniffin my packets?
[05:04] <BIOSboiler> can i surf the net at work, without them sniffin my packets?
[05:04] <BIOSboiler> with x server
[05:04] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Er, didn't we just go over the fact that #ubuntu is not for evading network policies?
[05:04] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: No, ssh encrypts your packets, but you shouldn't be slacking off at work.
[05:05] <n2diy> BIOSboiler: sure, use SSH
[05:05] <BIOSboiler> ttutle , no shit
[05:05] <dumezil> i've got some odd problem with gnome.  the power went out and forcibly shutdown my computer last night and when i came in today and turned it on, the graphical login screen comes up and i can login, but the desktop doesn't come up... it just sits there with the mouse and nothing else.  i tried the failsafe gnome login session with the same result.  any ideas what to do?
[05:05] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: they will be able to see what host you are connected to, and how much data you are sending, but not the actual stuff you are seeing.
[05:06] <BIOSboiler> thanks
[05:06] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: But you should be careful.
[05:06] <BIOSboiler> why?
[05:06] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: There are other ways they can monitor your activity, like software on your computer.
[05:06] <BIOSboiler> like what?
[05:06] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: They also might simply get suspicious about you transferring lots of data over ssh, as X is a bandwidth hog.
[05:07] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: Um, if it's their own machine, there are plenty of remote monitoring/control apps that are used for some combination of remote administration and snooping activities.
[05:07] <BIOSboiler> ttutle like what?
[05:07] <BIOSboiler> vnc?
[05:07] <Fainjoe> Anyone familiar with working with NTFS partitions?
[05:07] <wols_> BIOSboiler: a bit more sophisticated
[05:07] <billy> where can i find help with compix?
[05:07] <BIOSboiler> wols_
[05:07] <wols_> heck simply monitoring your router gives you away
[05:08] <ttuttle> BIOSboiler: VNC, for one.  I don't know any by heart, but there are fancier ones that can capture screenshots or keystrokes, etc...
[05:08] <ttuttle> wols_: Well, not quite.
[05:08] <wols_> !compiz | billy
[05:08] <ubotu> billy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:08] <[Jerry_Teps]> hey can someone help? I try to install Ubuntu but when it gets it GRUB it says: "Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed. This is a fatal error" does anyone know how to install grub?
[05:08] <BIOSboiler> wols_ like what?
[05:08] <n2diy> ttuttle: BIOSboiler, SSH works from a shell, so he really wouldn't be surfing. And it wouldn't protect you/him from keyboard sniffers.
[05:08] <ttuttle> n2diy: He was trying to forward X, so he would be surfing, I think.
[05:09] <wols_> ttuttle: "why did you run up 10GB of traffic to port 22 on this dynamic dsl IP last month?"
[05:09] <n2diy> ttuttle: ah ok, just joined the party. Didn't know you could forward X through ssh?
[05:09] <ttuttle> n2diy: Your nick wouldn't happen to be an amateur radio callsign, would it?
[05:09] <ttuttle> n2diy: Oh, sure you can.  It's a great feature.
[05:09] <ugenk> heloooo
[05:09] <n2diy> ttuttle: qsl
[05:09] <ttuttle> n2diy: Ah, I see it is.
[05:09] <alandd> wols_: nickrud: I have updated my pastebin posting with the "offending" section of the postinst script.  I highlighted two lines: the first is maybe the source of the issue (what do I know?) and the second is the place where the script dies according to the line number in the error.  See http://pastebin.com/m7c5970fe
[05:09] <ttuttle> n2diy: de ab1hu.
[05:10] <n2diy> ttuttle: where in one land? I'm in three land, Lansford, Pa.
[05:10] <Fainjoe> I can't seem to access my drive with all my vids and mp3s.... I could on last install, but now it shows up in the /media/ but it's empty and won't mount.  Can anyone help me out?
[05:10] <wols_> alandd: so add gutsy or whatever
[05:10] <ttuttle> n2diy: Oh, I'm actually at school in Pittsburgh right now, but I'm from Boston.
[05:10] <whileimhere> hi
[05:10] <ttuttle> wols_: hi
[05:10] <ttuttle> wols_: whoops
[05:10] <ttuttle> whileimhere: hi
[05:11] <whileimhere> Is there a way to play encrypted WMV files on Linux without switching back to Windows?
[05:11] <alandd> wols_: just add "gutsy" to the list of suites?
[05:11] <ttuttle> whileimhere: Unlikely.
[05:11] <whileimhere> darn
[05:11] <ttuttle> whileimhere: If they are, in fact, encrypted, then you would need the key, which is probably buried.
[05:11] <whileimhere> have to re-rip my tunes
[05:11] <n2diy> ttuttle: roger that. So you are /3.  Are you from Boston proper, or the suburbs?
[05:11] <speeddemon8803> !restricted > speeddemon8803
[05:11] <ttuttle> n2diy: Not quite downtown, but still Boston proper.
[05:12] <wols_> whileimhere: no
[05:12] <n2diy> ttuttle: roger that, spent a little bit of time in Cambridge, and more time then I care to remember in Peabody.
[05:12] <ttuttle> n2diy: ah, cambridge is fun
[05:13] <ttuttle> n2diy: Do you ever work satellites?
[05:13] <billy> how do you force quit a window?
[05:13] <whileimhere> wols what do you mean?
[05:13] <lynxx> how do i set the noapic option so that i stop getting a kernal panic on boot 99% of the time?
[05:14] <n2diy> ttuttle: I can work APRS through the Space Station.
[05:14] <tgelter> so, how is it possible that direct rendering isn't working even though compiz is running?
[05:14] <credible> tgelter: because you're in Xgl?
[05:14] <n2diy> ttuttle: Cambridge wasn't a lot of fun for a sixteen year old, in 1972.
[05:14] <alandd> wols_: didn't fix it to just add "gutsy" to the list of suites.  I have nothing to base it on but that feels like the right thing to do but maybe "gutsy" is the wrong string.  Would "kubuntu" be reasonable to try?  I'm shooting in the dark here.
[05:15] <tgelter> credible: how do you mean?
[05:15] <ttuttle> n2diy: Ah.
[05:15] <credible> tgelter: if you have the xserver-xgl package installed, you won't have direct rendering
[05:15] <ttuttle> n2diy: I don't have equipment for APRS myself, but I've managed to work AO-51 and SO-50 with just an HT and a decent whip antenna.
[05:15] <tgelter> credible: it's not installed
[05:16] <wols_> whileimhere: not possible
[05:16] <credible> tgelter: what video card?
[05:16] <tgelter> NV140
[05:16] <xiven> Hello
[05:16] <wols_> alandd: what is your sources.list entry for main?
[05:17] <ere4si> lynxx, you need to edit the /boot/grub/menu/lst file and add that option to the kernel line
[05:17] <credible> tgelter: what does this command return?: xvinfo | grep Xgl
[05:17] <xiven> I need some help, I did a dist-upgrade, which failed at gconf2, because it needs python2.5, but 2.4 is installed..and now  I cannot get it to continue..nor can I seem to fix the conflict..
[05:17] <n2diy> ttuttle: that is cool! I didn't realize there were still birds up there you could do that with!? I did QSO with U4MIR before it crashed and burned. I was 2m mobile.
[05:17] <lynxx> pm me how ere4si?
[05:17] <tgelter> credible: no output
[05:17] <beautifulsnow> Important Question: Is it odd that I run ubuntu/gnome if most of the apps I use are kde based? :-/ should I switch?
[05:17] <ttuttle> n2diy: Oh, sure!  AO-51 is extremely easy to work.  I once worked it through my living room window, on a ~45 degree pass where everything was aligned well.
[05:18] <credible> tgelter: pastebin the output of: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[05:18] <ttuttle> n2diy: It's really exciting to hear people from many states away on your little radio, and talk to them.
[05:18] <ere4si> lynxx, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst to open the file
[05:18] <blackvd> I have Ubuntu Gutsy installed with a dual boot of Vista and I never use Vista(thought I would for games) So I want to delete my windows partition and reclaim the space for Ubuntu. Is there an easy way to do this without messing up my current Gutsy install?
[05:18] <alandd> wols_:
[05:18] <alandd> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1)]/ gutsy main restricted
[05:18] <alandd> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[05:19] <wols_> blackvd: either just create a new partition  ther and mount or add it to your gutsy partition with gparted
[05:19] <tgelter> credible: http://pastebin.com/m65bdad58
[05:19] <xp_prg> can anyone help me to setup apache2, the server is running but when I go to http://127.0.0.1/apache2-default/ it doesn't show anything :(
[05:20] <ere4si> lynxx, scroll down towhere it says "end default options" - 3 lines down from that is the line that starts with "kernel " - add your option to the end of that line
[05:20] <n2diy> ttuttle: roger that, I'll check it out. Are you familiar with http://www.heavens-above.com/?Loc=Tamaqua&Lat=40.797&Lng=-75.970&Alt=244&TZ=EST
[05:20] <beautifulsnow> xp_prg does it show a blank screen or does it give you an error
[05:20] <xp_prg> just a blank screen :(
[05:20] <xp_prg> the directory exists with an index.html in /var/www
[05:20] <beautifulsnow> go to /var/www/ as root and delete the index file
[05:20] <credible> tgelter: I guess some permissions are wrong, but I'm not entirely sure :/
[05:20] <beautifulsnow> yup, delete that
[05:21] <blackvd> wols_: Is there no easy way to delete the partition and then and it to my home directory?
[05:21] <lynxx> uhm...like how would i type it ere4si?
[05:21] <goose> can someone please walk me through how to install a program from a .tar.bz2 filetype?
[05:21] <ttuttle> n2diy: The ISS?  Yes, I've heard it has APRS and voice, but normally runs only APRS.
[05:21] <jrib> goose: you avoid doing so.  What are you trying to install?
[05:21] <tgelter> credible: what makes you suspect perms?
[05:21] <goose> a plugin for pidgin
[05:21] <goose> jrib: a plugin for pidgin
[05:21] <ere4si> lynxx, at the end of the line type a space then noapic
[05:21] <jrib> goose: be more specific
[05:22] <credible> tgelter: because that's usually what would make direct rendering fail for no apparent reason
[05:22] <n2diy> ttuttle: go done to mid-page, they have a ham satellite section.
[05:22] <tgelter> credible: perms of what?
[05:22] <ere4si> lynxx, then save the file
[05:22] <ttuttle> n2diy: ah
[05:22] <n2diy> done/down
[05:22] <credible> tgelter: the nvidia device nodes and such
[05:22] <ttuttle> n2diy: Ooh, that's nice!
[05:22] <lynxx> soo... it should look like "kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=0ffdd1cd-82c1-41d9-b99d-2a00ca443537 ro quiet splash noapic" ?
[05:22] <egc> goose: use bunzip2 to unzip a .bz2 and tar to untar the tar file
[05:22] <mark_boy> haiiii
[05:23] <ttuttle> n2diy: Normally I use amsat's page, but that doesn't have as many birds.
[05:23] <ere4si> lynxx, yep
[05:23] <goose> jrib: it's a plugin I downloaded from google code that shows my current song in amarok as my status on pidgin (link: http://code.google.com/p/musictracker/ )
[05:23] <tgelter> credible: ok, thanks for taking a look at my issue!
[05:23] <n2diy> ttuttle: :)
[05:23] <lynxx> thx ere4si, this has been bugging me for a couple weeks
[05:23] <ere4si> lynxx, np :)
[05:23] <lynxx> <3 ere4si
[05:23] <goose> etc: I understand the concept of decompressing the file, I just have no idea how to actually install it from source
[05:23] <xiven> hey goose
[05:23] <ere4si> lynxx, reboot and try it out
[05:23] <goose> egc: I understand the concept of decompressing the file, I just have no idea how to actually install it from source
[05:23] <xp_prg> oh I think I fixed it hanks :>
[05:24] <ttuttle> n2diy: We should try a satellite sked sometime.
[05:24] <goose> xiven: hey. do I know you? or were you trying to get my attention?
[05:24] <egc> goose: its normally the same couple of steps: cd into the untarred directory, type "./configure", then "make" then "sudo make install"
[05:24] <n2diy> ttuttle: Sure, I here 24/7, when I'm not out , or outside.
[05:24] <ttuttle> n2diy: okay
[05:25] <jrib> !compile > goose (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:25] <johndoe09> hi
[05:25] <ttuttle> n2diy: Are you generally in #ubuntu?  I'll look for a good pass when I'm not busy but I am awake.
[05:25] <jrib> goose: read the link ubotu sent you and the INSTALL file inside the tar.bz2 archive you have
[05:25] <n2diy> ttuttle: Sure, I here 24/7, when I'm not out , or outside.
[05:25] <ttuttle> n2diy: okay
[05:25] <goose> jrib: thanks a mil
[05:25] <goose> egc, thanks too
[05:25] <ttuttle> n2diy: (I didn't know if you meant here as in your house, or here as in #ubuntu.)
[05:25] <egc> np
[05:26] <johndoe09> why is this wifi icon in my taskbar always ask for the wep key when in fact im already connected and have a good connection signal is 61
[05:26] <ipi> fdfhd
[05:26] <ipi> dfhf
[05:26] <ipi> fhf
[05:26] <johndoe09> anyone pls?
[05:26] <n2diy> ttuttle: #Ubuntu. Are you into astronomy?
[05:26] <ttuttle> ipi: please don't floor.
[05:26] <JDStone> Flannel: did you say something?  I missed it.  scrolled up and nothing?
[05:26] <ttuttle> *flood
[05:26] <ttuttle> n2diy: Not a lot, but it's interesting.
[05:27] <goose> etc or jrib: what is the terminal command to create a directory that I can install my plugin in, and then how do I navigate to the directory and move the download from my desktop to there?
[05:27] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[05:27] <n2diy> ttuttle: Check out kstars, it is awesome.
[05:27] <Cpudan80> Is there some command I can run to find out the max res supported by my gfx card?
[05:27] <jrib> !cli > goose (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:27] <gilda> goose, mkdir dirName   will make a directory
[05:27] <ttuttle> n2diy: Ah.  Have you tried stellarium?
[05:27] <dhie2> haiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:27] <ttuttle> dhie2: hi.
[05:28] <egc> goose: mkdir creates a dir, cd will change directories, and mv will move files
[05:28] <[Jerry_Teps]> hey can someone help? When I try to install GRUB in the ubuntu installation I get this error "Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed. This is a fatal error" can anyone help?
[05:28] <n2diy> ttuttle: no, I haven't.
[05:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> stellarium is incredibly awesome
[05:28] <goose> thanks!
[05:28] <ttuttle> n2diy: It's a planetarium program.  I assume it's similar to kstars.
[05:28] <ttuttle> Daisuke_Laptop: heh
[05:28] <ipi> dgds
[05:28] <ipi> dgsdg
[05:28] <ipi> dgsd
[05:28] <ipi> dsg
[05:28] <ipi> gs
[05:28] <FloodBot2> ipi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:28] <ttuttle> ipi: stop flooding please
[05:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> ipi, knock it off.
[05:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> ttuttle: i was introduced to it last week for the eclipse, i can't see any way kstars could measure up
[05:29] <egc> \X/
[05:29] <n2diy> ttuttle: yes, kstars is a planetarium program.  What does Stellarium run under, Gnome?
[05:29] <ttuttle> Daisuke_Laptop: ooh, the eclipse was fun
[05:29] <ttuttle> n2diy: Um, it doesn't require a particular desktop environment.  I think it uses OpenGL.
[05:30] <arakthor> where do I find and install the section 3 man pages in ubuntu?
[05:30] <xiven> Has anyone had trouble upgrading to Feisty, encountering conflicts with gconf2?
[05:30] <Sonja> konversation won't open anymore... i get this errmsg :( :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4419725
[05:30] <egc> arakthor: is that the lib section?
[05:30] <jrib> arakthor: install manpages-dev
[05:30] <n2diy> ttuttle: Hmmm, the only draw back I have with kstars is it needs the KDE libraries to run, so it taxes my poor old tired system.
[05:31] <arakthor> thanks jrib
[05:31] <ttuttle> n2diy: Ah.  KDE slows things down.
[05:31] <arakthor> egc, yeh. all the programmers stuff
[05:31] <arakthor> w00t, now I don't feel shortchanged. thanks guys
[05:31] <egc> HEHE
[05:31] <prince_jammys> !langpack | sonja
[05:31] <ubotu> sonja: A recent update broke some KDE language packs, leaving the user unable to login. (http://launchpad.net/bugs/195647) To fix this, remove the updated packages (language-pack-kde-en, language-pack-kde-en-base) and restart KDE.
[05:31] <egc> oops
[05:32] <prince_jammys> Sonja: it might be related to that
[05:32] <egc> yeah i find it wierd that the developer stuff isnt included by default...different user target i guess
[05:32] <ttuttle> egc: Me too.  I feel like it should be included to make it easier to get started.
[05:32] <n2diy> ttuttle: Well, I understand Gnome does too. But I don't have the time to play with light weight gdm's yet.
[05:33] <arakthor> yeh, I was chilling in ##c and couldn't figure out why I was missing all the useful man pages
[05:33] <egc> exactly
[05:33] <Sonja> thanks prince
[05:33] <alandd> wols_: Using carefully placed print statements I have determined that the "for (<POLICY>) {..." loop is never entered.  So something is awry with the statement before, or the results of the statement before, that is "open POLICY, "apt-cache policy |" or die "Unable to read apt policy: $!";"  Trouble for me is, I don't know that that statement does or how it does it.  I'm stuck!
[05:34] <illmorta1> can someone please help me access my kboot.conf through live cd shell?... I'm in shell mode!
[05:35] <n2diy> alandd: what command is causing this trouble?
[05:35] <amenado> illmortal which linux do you have?
[05:35] <sorrowsbitch> anyone with experience in (SAMBA) vista printer issues?
[05:35]  * alandd doesn't really 'know' Perl and has zero experience with packaging scripts!
[05:35] <Sonja> haha, a new lang pack update just arrived on my ubuntu, and it fixed it. i guess they just released the fix!!
[05:35] <alandd> n2diy: "sudo apt-get install emdebian-tools" on a fresh Kubuntu gutsy box.
[05:35] <n2diy> alandd: have you asked in #perl?
[05:38] <billy> how do i install a flash player for mozilla?
[05:38] <noodles12> !flash
[05:38] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:38] <ouellettesr> can someone help me enable network sharing with a xp machine?m I can see the computer under in the network folder, but when i select it it says the folder cannot be displayed
[05:38] <billy> thanks
[05:39] <illmorta1> can someone please help me access my kboot.conf through live cd shell?... I'm in shell mode!
[05:39] <amenado> illmortal which linux do you have?
[05:39] <illmorta1> gutsy
[05:39] <Leftville> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:39] <illmorta1> i deleted a script in kboot.conf amendo
[05:39] <amenado> illmortal nope that file kboot.conf is not in gutsy
[05:40] <alandd> n2diy: The whole command problem is at http://pastebin.com/m191d88fe
[05:40] <illmorta1> it's the pss3 version...
[05:40] <illmorta1> i deleted my video mode script.
[05:40] <alandd> n2diy: It's not that long
[05:40] <ouellettesr> so I click the network icon under places, then windows network>workgroup>WINXP machine, and it says contents cannot be displayed
[05:40] <n2diy> alandd: roger, let me take a look.
[05:40] <amenado> illmortal i dont believe this is the channel for ps3 ubuntu, maybe ubuntu+1
[05:41] <ouellettesr> anyone?
[05:41] <illmorta1> there's no room by that name amendo.
[05:41] <alandd> n2diy: The "offending" function appears to be this one: http://pastebin.com/m7c5970fe
[05:42] <billy> what problems could i have from switching HD's between two identical dell inspiron 1501 laptops?
[05:42] <drarem> I downloaded ubuntu 7.10 AMD 64 onto a dvd and tried booting it on a windows media xp home edition (32-bit on 64-bit AMD), I get a black screen when I select option 1 to start or install ubuntu
[05:42] <n2diy> alandd: this doesn't seem to be related to perl?
[05:42] <drarem> any theories?
[05:42] <xGeek> reboot with the cd in the drive...
[05:43] <Leftville> ouelletsr: I'm not entirely sure that this would be the problem, but do you have samba installed?
[05:43] <xGeek> as long as the computer is set to boot from cd you should be fine.
[05:43] <drarem> it does boot from the cd
[05:43] <alandd> n2diy: No, not directly.  I was hacking the script to see if I could determine what it was choking on.  It's not really a Perl problem.  Sorry for any confusion.
[05:43] <billy> what program is=to realplayer in ubuntu?
[05:43] <drarem> i get the ubuntu /rescue options
[05:43] <billy> including .flv support?
[05:44] <n2diy> alandd: ok, np.
[05:44] <niuq> i have problems with, the sound
[05:44] <Geoffrey2> in most configuration files, # is a comment symbol, correct?
[05:44] <ouellettesr> Leftville, I have never needed samba to do it before, but i am getting it right now to try
[05:45] <alandd> I have to quit and go to bed.  wols_ and n2diy, thanks for the conversation.  I'll may have to find a different way to setup my cross-compile environment.
[05:45] <niuq> the sound it's to slow, i can't hear almost anything, and every option it's at 100%
[05:45] <Ronin-Sage> getting err13 on grub(vista part) after a newbie re-size of my vista partition...anyone here that can help?
[05:46] <n2diy> alandd: OK, good night, looks like a dpkg error to me.
[05:46] <Leftville> ouellettesr: Okay, I've had the same problem before but I had Samba installed. If you have a firewall on your XP machine, make sure that it isn't blocking your Ubuntu machine.
[05:46] <ouellettesr> k
[05:47] <gcarrillo> yessir!
[05:48] <ouellettesr> leftville it was the firewall :/ If only you had been around 3 hours ago :)
[05:48] <ouellettesr> err.. if i was around
[05:48] <ouellettesr> lol
[05:48] <Ronin-Sage> getting err13 on grub(vista part) after a newbie re-size of my vista partition...anyone here that can help?
[05:49] <Rafanjani> hola
[05:49] <WotG_Migo> Glad I could help. :)
[05:49] <gcarrillo> holla
[05:49] <Rafanjani> esto esta en ingles? que fasdtidio...
[05:49] <Rafanjani> hi, how are you?
[05:49] <gcarrillo> quien?
[05:49] <n2diy> ! es | Rafanjani
[05:49] <ubotu> Rafanjani: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:49] <billy> im having trouble installing flash for firefox.. exactly how do i do it?
[05:50] <niuq> hi, i need help with sound
[05:50] <ka2> billy: x86 or amd64?
[05:50] <billy> amd64
[05:50] <WotG_Migo> ouellettesr: Be sure to keep an eye on the XP firewall, it can prove to be a problem later on again. I've had mine cut me off a number of times just because it felt like it.
[05:50] <ka2> billy: you need 32bit firefox
[05:50] <n2diy> niuq: what is the problem?
[05:50] <gcarrillo> !sound | niuq
[05:50] <ubotu> niuq: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:50] <billy> ka2: billy --> yo__
[05:50] <niuq> the sound of my speakers are to slow
[05:50] <billy> ka2: where do i get that?
[05:50] <ka2> billy: im using a firefox nightly
[05:50] <billy> huh?
[05:51] <ka2> billy: i (firefox 3 development build)
[05:51] <gcarrillo> the nightly build of firefox
[05:51] <niuq> n2diy: i have a laptop toshiba,with ubuntu 7.10 installed the problem is, the sound it's to slow :S
[05:51] <billy> where do i get it?
[05:51] <ka2> billy: mozilla.org
[05:51] <hexoroid> anybody good with 'named'
[05:51] <niuq> n2diy: and i'm sure everything it's at 100%
[05:51] <billy> k, how do i uninstall the firefox i already have?
[05:51] <n2diy> niuq: what do you mean it is to slow? Is it "-stuttering"?
[05:51] <gcarrillo> FGI
[05:52] <ka2> billy: you dont
[05:52] <ka2> billy: i have it in ~/firefox
[05:52] <billy> it automatically does it?
[05:52] <ka2> billy: so i can still use firefox 2
[05:52] <Cpudan80> So anybody have any ideas --- how to find max res of a gfx card from within the OS?
[05:52] <ka2> billy: as well as 3
[05:52] <billy> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
[05:52] <billy> is that the right one?
[05:52] <n2diy> Cpudan80: lshw?
[05:52] <ka2> billy: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html
[05:52] <gcarrillo> Cpudan80: look at manufacturers product page
[05:52] <billy> thanks
[05:53] <ka2> billy: but yeah that is the right one as well
[05:53] <WotG_Migo> Goodnight all.
[05:53] <ka2> billy: depends on if you want 2 (stable) or 3 (development)
[05:53] <billy> ka2: after dl, how do i install flash?
[05:53] <gcarrillo> pz
[05:53] <Cpudan80> gcarrillo: I need to know exactly how ubuntu reports the res
[05:53] <billy> stable lol
[05:53] <Cpudan80> Plus AMD is incompetent and their pages are hard to muck around in
[05:53] <n2diy> Cpudan80: lshw?
[05:54] <Cpudan80> i'll give it a shot
[05:54] <gcarrillo> Cpudan80: try "xrandr"
[05:54] <ka2> billy: i will try to get some instructions together - be patient
[05:54] <Ronin-Sage> getting err13 on grub(vista part) after a newbie re-size of my vista partition...anyone here that can help?
[05:54] <billy> okee dokee.. thanks so much btw
[05:54] <bazhang> yeah billy; sorry had to run off for a few ;]
[05:54] <billy> bazhang!
[05:54] <gcarrillo> Cpudan80: just type it in term
[05:54] <billy> ATI Radeon Xpress 1150 lol
[05:54] <Cpudan80> gcarrillo: I think that's looking at the connected device
[05:55] <Cpudan80> gcarrillo: It says 1024x768
[05:55] <bazhang> billy that will do fine
[05:55] <hexoroid> anybody good with 'named'
[05:55] <Cpudan80> that cant be right
[05:55] <bazhang> yo you still around?
[05:55] <gcarrillo> connected device?
[05:55] <billy> bazhang: i also went to #compiz-help or whatever it is and they told me everything i need to do.. now i just gotta restart
[05:55] <gcarrillo> it should report on all displays
[05:56] <bazhang> billy nice! ;]
[05:56] <gcarrillo> Cpudan80: oh, i see what you mean
[05:56] <billy> bazhang: yep, and i finally got all my files transferred as well.. i really hope i can switch the HD
[05:56] <LogicalDash> I seem to have hosed my partition table. How do I change, say, /dev/sda2 into /dev/sda1?
[05:56] <billy> s
[05:56] <billy> without problem...
[05:57] <bazhang> billy well, if you have issues we are here to help ;]
[05:57] <billy> bazhang: yeah lol.. i think ive already overstayed my welcome tho lol
[05:57] <billy> bazhang: how do i install firefox after extracting it from a tar file?
[05:58] <kilgor3> does anyone knoe how to fix this problem?  I cant install or uninstall anything i keep getting thiss error   failed in buffer_read(fd)
[05:58] <haymaker> i'm having a problem with evolution where i can only launch it once after i log in
[05:58] <bazhang> billy no such thing as overstayed around here ;]
[05:58] <billy> lmao
[05:58] <solid_liq> will quake 4 run on linux?
[05:58] <Frijolie> Hey all, I think I've done a stupid thing and corrupted a partition on my laptop and now it won't boot. How do you go about restoring it (if possible)?
[05:58] <billy> bazhang: but yea.. how do i install firefox after extracting it from a tar file?
[05:58] <Ronin-Sage> frijolie, same problem here, heh--what error are u getting?
[05:59] <bazhang> billy why not get it from the repos? or you want the beta latest bestest one
[05:59] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: use  live disc, and choose the repair option
[05:59] <haymaker> can anyone help with evolution not launching?
[05:59] <Frijolie> I'm getting "fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[05:59] <Frijolie> /dev/sda3 contains a file system with errors, check forced"
[05:59] <n2diy> haymaker: why do you think that is a problem? What errors are you getting?
[05:59] <Frijolie> and a bunch of these: "Buffer I/O error on device sda3, logical block 23435234"
[05:59] <Ronin-Sage> oh, error 13 here
[06:00] <Frijolie> then it just boots to the command line and "startx" doesn't work
[06:00] <haymaker> n2diy, i'm not getting any errors when i try to launch it, i open it the first time after i log in and if i close it i cant open it again
[06:00] <haymaker> n2diy, if i log off and back on, it works
[06:01] <Frijolie> file system check failed
[06:01] <Frijolie> a maintenance shell will now be started
[06:01] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: booting to a liveCD now
[06:01] <n2diy> haymaker: Weird, same problem I'm having with my sound. Haven't found an answer yet.
[06:02] <n2diy> haymaker: What are you running, Dapper?
[06:02] <haymaker> n2diy, gutsy
[06:02] <Frijolie> can it restore the partition without suffering any data loss?
[06:02] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: actually, my answer was sort of flippant
[06:02] <gcarrillo> it may not work
[06:02] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: uh, oh!
[06:02] <n2diy> haymaker: My trouble is with Dapper, and seems to be related to an update on 2/23.
[06:03] <ka2> billy: this is very "works for me"ish i guess but well it worked for me :) http://kiwiadam2.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/flash-player-on-amd64-ubuntu-with-32-bit-firefox/
[06:03] <ka2> !worksforme | ka2 ;)
[06:03] <ubotu> ka2 ;): Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[06:04] <douglas_h> !xgoogle ubuntu
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xgoogle ubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <Ronin-Sage> my situation is: i'm getting err13(invalid or unsupported executable format) when i attempt to boot up vista after an apparently novice partition re-size
[06:04] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: if you want to avoid data loss, you could work with the system from the terminal to make backups of your important data
[06:04] <billy_> dude..
[06:04] <billy_> ubuntu started acting all funny.. now im on my other comp
[06:04] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: and then fsck the filesystem
[06:04] <ka2> wha billy_ and billy!!!
[06:04] <billy_> who was i talking to?
[06:04] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: sure, how do you do that?
[06:04] <billy_> lmao
[06:04] <billy_> smae dude..
[06:04] <billy_> same**
[06:04] <haymaker> what is a command to see what programs are running?
[06:04] <ka2> who was yo__?
[06:04] <billy_> ka2: any instructions you gave me i didn't get to see cuz ubuntu was retarded
[06:04] <billy_> me
[06:05] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: i would use a USB drive and copy any important directories/files onto that
[06:05] <ka2> billy_: why is ubuntu "retarded"?
[06:05] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: can you get to a command line from the live cd?
[06:05] <billy_> the internet disconnected
[06:05] <gcarrillo> oh yeah
[06:05] <billy_> for no reason
[06:05] <billy_> so im rebooting it right now
[06:06] <ka2> billy_: so who is billy?
[06:06] <Ronin-Sage> anyone know how to remedy my grub problem?
[06:06] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: boot the live CD, and bring up a terminal in it.  Then use the "mount" command to mount your hard drive's filesystem
[06:06] <billy_> me
[06:06] <billy_> same dude
[06:06] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: at that point you can copy stuff from it
[06:06] <ka2> billy_: arrghhhhhhhhhh confusing
[06:06] <ka2> billy: this is very "works for me"ish i guess but well it worked for me :) http://kiwiadam2.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/flash-player-on-amd64-ubuntu-with-32-bit-firefox/
[06:06] <billy_> lmao, billy_, billy, and yo___ are all the same person.. me
[06:06] <ka2> !worksforme | ka2
[06:06] <billy_> k thanks
[06:07] <ka2> !worksforme
[06:07] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[06:07] <haymaker> does evolution log errors anywherE?
[06:07] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: oh I thought you wanted me to get to a command line (no guI) from the LiveCD..alright I'm getting to the desktop
[06:07] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: else you could just boot your system from the harddrive, and work with it from the console (the command line you see when X doesnt start)
[06:07] <billy_> whats the command to edit the blacklist?
[06:08] <rebelpro> hey is anyone on who could help me with a resolution problem i'm having?
[06:08] <wols_> !ask | rebelpro
[06:08] <ubotu> rebelpro: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:08] <wols_> billy_: editor
[06:08] <billy_> why is my blacklist completely blank?
[06:09] <wols_> cause you aren't blcklisting anything?
[06:09] <billy_> i dunno..
[06:09] <rebelpro> I'm trying to get 1680 x 1050 resolution using my ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro on my Gateway 22inch widescreen monitor
[06:09] <noodles12> anyone here nkow how to get alltray to work/
[06:09] <billy_> ubuntu is acting really wierd right now
[06:09] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: it says that my sda3 (my /home partition) doesn't have an existing file system. I don't think I'll be able to mount it.
[06:09] <ka2> !justask | billy_, billy, yo__
[06:09] <ubotu> billy_, billy, yo__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:09] <gcarrillo> eww
[06:09] <rebelpro> I have already tried editing the xorg.conf file but it had no effect. Does anyone know how to get that resolution?
[06:10] <billy_> ka2 when did i ask to ask a question?
[06:10] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: at least that was the errors when it was trying to run fsck @ boot
[06:10] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: still waiting for the desktop to load
[06:10] <ka2> billy_: ubuntu is acting really weird right now. well whats your problem???
[06:10] <gcarrillo> okk
[06:10] <regeya> ka2, try scrolling up a bit.
[06:11] <regeya> and lay off the uppers.
[06:11] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: I pulled the plug on my laptop, not remembering that the battery wasn't in it...
[06:11] <billy_> the drivers arent booting correctly
[06:11] <gcarrillo> hehe
[06:11] <billy_> the bcm4311 ones specifically
[06:11] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: and it's making me pay for my mistake
[06:11] <regeya> I swear  to pete the ubuntu crowd is turning into the debian crowd...
[06:11] <regeya> ...and that's a very bad thing.
[06:11] <rebelpro> I'm trying to get 1680 x 1050 resolution using my ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro on my Gateway 22inch widescreen monitor. I have already tried editing the xorg.conf file but it had no effect. Does anyone know how to get that resolution? (sorry i forgot to put it on one line last time)
[06:12] <ka2> billy_: "arent booting correctly"  huh
[06:12] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: alright i'm at the desktop. sudo mnt /home ?
[06:12] <ka2> regeya: in what way?
[06:12] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: "man mount"
[06:12] <billy_> my wireless card isn't working anymore.. why? it was working just fine then it stopped......
[06:12] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: ah..RTFM
[06:12] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: its something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[06:13] <gcarrillo> i always forget
[06:13] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: i think sda1 is my swap, sda2 is /, and sda3 is /home on my HDD
[06:13] <gcarrillo> yeah, so sda3
[06:14] <LogicalDash> I just broke my partition table. What now?
[06:14] <billy_> whats a command to debug your wirelss? ust like LAN has smbclient?
[06:14] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: "can't find /dev/sda3/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:14] <rebelpro> Well I guess I'll just post in the forums and hope that someone who isn't on right now can help me
[06:15] <gcarrillo> LogicalDash: rebuild the partition table, i think with fdisk
[06:15] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: however, doing a directory listing shows that my data's still in tact (directories)
[06:15] <ere4si> noodles12, http://alltray.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[06:15] <gcarrillo> oh
[06:15] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: put a space between sda3 and /mnt
[06:15] <Frijolie> hehe, funny stuff...sounds like lots of people are having HDD/partition problems
[06:15] <ka2> billy_: smbclient doesnt test lan
[06:15] <ka2> billy_: ping does
[06:16] <billy_> it test file sharing networks
[06:16] <ka2> billy_: same for WAN
[06:16] <noodles12> ere4si: thanks i'll check it otu
[06:16] <ka2> billy_: WLAN
[06:16] <ere4si> k
[06:16] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: no error message, just a blank prompt again...
[06:16] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: i'm guessing that's a good sign
[06:16] <gcarrillo> now cd to /mnt
[06:16] <ka2> billy_: it test smb file sharing no networking
[06:16] <gcarrillo> you should see your data
[06:16] <billy_> ka2: my internet was working, but its not anymore.. it totally stopped working for absolutely no reason. i don't know what to do.
[06:17] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: i see two directories: brian and lost + found
[06:17] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: brian is my username so I'm guessing that's my home directory?
[06:17] <gcarrillo> is your username brian?
[06:17] <gcarrillo> right
[06:17] <puff> Bah, humbug.
[06:17] <gcarrillo> thats your home dir
[06:18] <gcarrillo> so you mounted it correctly
[06:18] <cdubya> I've installed all the codecs and what not to be able to play DVDs on this laptop......I've enabled DMA....I'm using 7.10 and I can't seem to get any DVDs to play right. Device Manager identifies this as a cdrom drive TSSTCorp. I haven't heard of it, and I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever be able to watch dvds on my Ubuntu partition....:-(    Any ideas?
[06:18] <billy_> compix is sooooo coool lol
[06:18] <puff> Yesterday I disabled compiz because I realized that a) I'm not really using any of the really nifty compiz features anyway, and b) the more omnipresent features (like translucency and bouncy windows) don't really mean that much to me anyway.
[06:18] <haymaker> hey how do i see what programs are running?
[06:18] <puff> And now my laptop crashes every hour or two.
[06:18] <puff> Sigh.
[06:18] <bazhang> cdubya: including the package from medibuntu?
[06:18] <puff> haymaker: ps -ef
[06:18] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: so does that mean that my fstab got messed up?
[06:18] <gcarrillo> haymaker: ps -aux
[06:18] <cdubya> bazhang, which one?
[06:19] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: i don't think so
[06:19] <ka2> puf: i use compiz because I use the features and find it difficult to use a desktop without them now :)
[06:19] <billy_> in compix what does desktop cube do?
[06:19] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: so, it should be fixed?
[06:19] <ka2> *puff
[06:19] <bazhang> cdubya: the one for playing dvd's ;]
[06:19] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: the fstab just tells linux what filesystems to mount automatically at boot
[06:19] <ka2> billy_: in compiz it is a cube for virtual desktops
[06:19] <puff> ka2: Well, I'm not a normal GUI user to start with. I've been using unix since the old vt52 days :-).
[06:19] <cdubya> bazhang, package name.....
[06:19] <puff> ka2: So I basically use X/gnome the same way I use screen/emacs.
[06:19] <douglas_h> gary
[06:20] <billy_> oh for like when yo have windows running?
[06:20] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: yeah but at boot it couldn't find, or said that the partition didn't contain a filesystem
[06:20] <cdubya> bazhang, you mean libdvdcss or whatever?
[06:20] <bazhang> cdubya: www.medibuntu.org
[06:20] <gcarrillo> right, so fstab is just one file inside the filesystem
[06:20] <gcarrillo> i think the filesystem itself is what may be corrupted
[06:21] <gcarrillo> fsck is usually used to fix those types of problems
[06:21] <ka2> puff: do you even need gnome then?
[06:21] <puff> ka2: Only to drive firefox :-).
[06:21] <earthling> puff: what client(non GUI - cmd prompt) for irc do you use?
[06:21] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: or perhaps you're having partition table problems too
[06:21] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: how do I restore or repair the filesystem. Fsck fails each time it boots... you said something about backing up my data before repairing it?
[06:21] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: in which case you'd use fdisk
[06:21] <puff> ka2: In fact, one of the things on my get-around-to-it list was figuring out if I could use the 3D cube effect for alt-tab.
[06:21] <puff> earthling: emacs.
[06:22] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: how do you tell the size of a directory? ls -a?
[06:22] <gandalfcome> is there an easy way to play sounds from a script in ubuntu? like a command line player?
[06:22] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: right, so now you have your home dir mounted, and should be able to access your data.  If you were to plug in a usb drive, you could move files from your harddisk to the usb drive, thereby backing them up
[06:22] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: try du
[06:22] <ka2> puff: but if youre using gnome like screen why not use fluxbox etc
[06:23] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: man du
[06:23] <ka2> billy_: http://kiwiadam2.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/screenshot-17.png
[06:23] <Frogzoo> gandalfcome: aplay
[06:23] <sam__> need help playing streaming videos on NBC webpage
[06:24] <Frogzoo> gandalfcome: doesn't play mp3s though..
[06:24] <cdubya> bazhang, bah, forgot to reinstall libdvdcss2...thanks....
[06:24] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: just copy the entire home folder to an external drive? does that work? My /home is 6.3 GB...larger than my 1GB thumb stick. I have a 350GB USB External HDD
[06:25] <sam__> need help playing streaming videos on NBC webpage
[06:25] <gcarrillo> use the 350gig one and you can just copy the whole home dir
[06:25] <bazhang> cdubya: hehe no worries ;]
[06:26] <Frogzoo> gandalfcome: perhaps mpg321?
[06:26] <Zodiac2> I installed the latest nvidia drivers.. and now my xorg or something is fucked up... Ubuntu tells me to use low-graphics when I start it, and then it starts with a wrong hz so I cant proceed.. anyone got a solution? maybe reconfigure xorg, or downgrade drivers?
[06:26] <bazhang> language Zodiac2
[06:27] <Zodiac2> norwegian
[06:27] <bazhang> heh
[06:27] <earthling_> haaaaa
[06:27] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: ok, booting that sucker up now, thanks so much for your willingness to help. That's what the GNU/Linux community has over the Windoze "family"
[06:27] <bazhang> !ohmy | Zodiac2
[06:27] <ubotu> Zodiac2: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:27] <cdubya> bah, now my audio is coming through both my headphones and my speakers....bah
[06:27] <earthling_> bazhang: taht was funny
[06:27] <Zodiac2> what have I done? =P
[06:27] <bazhang> earthling_: true ;]
[06:27] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: definitely, using open source is a lot of fun
[06:27] <Zodiac2> I just want my PC fixed, so I can do some homework etc
[06:28] <bazhang> Zodiac2: the f word
[06:28] <Zodiac2> I never said a f word!
[06:28] <Zodiac2> now please, anyone got a solution to my problem?
[06:28] <bazhang> how did you install the drivers Zodiac2
[06:28] <gcarrillo> Zodiac2: hehe
[06:28] <Zodiac2> via the ubuntu upgradething
[06:28] <Zodiac2> the orange icon you know
[06:28] <Zodiac2> :P
[06:28] <puff> ka2: Maybe I should; what's fluxbox?
[06:29] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: uh oh, the "brian" folder is empty. however it's showing all my stuff under /home/ubuntu..the LiveCDs home directory?
[06:29] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg perhaps Zodiac2
[06:29] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: hmm...it should still work
[06:29] <Zodiac2> ok, ill try
[06:30] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> puff, fluxbox is a light weight window manager like metacity
[06:30] <puff> [Hardy]TuTUXG: Ah.  I've thought about trying out ratpoison.
[06:30] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: wait, Nautilus said that the "brian" folder was 6.3GB but showed empty. However an "ls" under the /home/Ubuntu shows my directories but is only 7.1KB
[06:31] <gcarrillo> how bout from the terminal?
[06:31] <gcarrillo> i.e. if you cd to /mnt/brian
[06:33] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: yeah it's showing in a terminal...
[06:33] <gcarrillo> ok
[06:34] <esfingex> Sysinfo: [AMD Sempron(tm) 2200+ (1500 MHz)] | [472 MB] | [Linux (2.6.22-14-generic)] | [load: 0.66 (5 min)] | [0d 3h 28m up]
[06:34] <gcarrillo> use "cp -r"  or "mv" and you can move the entire directory
[06:34] <gcarrillo> check the man pages though, to make sure you do it correctly
[06:34] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: sudo cp /mnt/brian /media/disk right?
[06:34] <Zodiac2> bazhang, now it working to a certain level (mouse and keyboard maybe need some configure etc), thanks! :D
[06:34] <gandalfcome> Frogzoo: thanks
[06:34] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: i don'
[06:34] <gcarrillo> t think you need sudo
[06:35] <gcarrillo> and add the '-r' so it recurses through the subdirectories as well
[06:35] <bazhang> Zodiac2: no worries ;]
[06:36] <Frogzoo> gandalfcome: you'll probably want cplay as a front end to mpg321
[06:36] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: to make it easy just do "cp -a /mnt/brian /media/disk/"
[06:36] <gandalfcome> Frogzoo: thanks
[06:37] <gcarrillo> that preserves the file mode and copies recursively
[06:37] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: i'm getting permission denied..I"m guessing sudo?
[06:38] <billy> can someone help me with bcm43xx.. again.. i had it all connected and it was working fine.. but it stopped, and now i can't get it working again
[06:38] <gcarrillo> ok then, yeah use sudo
[06:38] <billy> anyone?
[06:38] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: operation not permitted
[06:39] <billy> gcarrillo you know much about WLAN in ubuntu?
[06:39] <gcarrillo> a little sum'tin sum'tin
[06:40] <billy> gcarrillo: i had my bcm4311 wireless working fine since yesterday, but today it just up and stopped working out of nowhere, and no i can't get it to work again..
[06:40] <asdffe> i have been trying really hard to apply a GTK2.0 theme. I do it and it says "theme installed properly" but none of the arrows, buttons or scroll bars ever change.
[06:40] <gcarrillo> billy: what driver does it use
[06:40] <billy> gcarrillo?
[06:41] <billy> oh
[06:41] <asdffe> They're always the same 2d windows98 looking style
[06:41] <billy> well it uses bcm43xx-fwcutter
[06:41] <billy> to extract the firmawre from a windows source
[06:41] <billy> through restricted drivers manager
[06:41] <xhhux> helllooo!
[06:41] <gcarrillo> did your system update anything since yesterday?
[06:41] <billy> yep
[06:41] <billy> 207...
[06:42] <billy> packages*
[06:42] <billy> but it worked after that
[06:42] <asdffe> i look at the source of these themes and it shows the images are there. like /arrowdown.png
[06:42] <gcarrillo> so you probably got a regression
[06:42] <asdffe> but there is no image for arrowdown when i set the theme
[06:42] <billy> gcarrillo: what do i do?
[06:42] <piju> need help here, about atheros
[06:42] <xhhux> atheros
[06:42] <gcarrillo> billy: i would find out who the maintainer is for the project that produced your driver
[06:43] <xhhux> ?
[06:43] <billy> mm..
[06:43] <gcarrillo> billy: then check their bug logs and see if anybody else sees the same prob
[06:43] <billy> im looking thru synaptic to find something better
[06:44] <gcarrillo> billy: so the key is to know exactly what chipset your NIC is using
[06:44] <billy> yep
[06:44] <billy> bcm4311
[06:44] <gcarrillo> k, good
[06:44] <wols_> billy: lspci
[06:44] <Zoiks> hey, in deluge... is there anyway to save currently in process torrents, format the computer and get it to easily pick it back up again
[06:44] <billy> one sec
[06:45] <billy> just lspci by itself?
[06:45] <bazhang> Zoiks: likely no
[06:45] <gcarrillo> lspci | grep -i network
[06:45] <Zoiks> damn
[06:45] <gcarrillo> itll just tell you what you already know
[06:46] <Zoiks> so there is no way to get it to save torrents... because i didnt save them.. just opened them
[06:46] <billy> lmao yeah
[06:46] <gcarrillo> hehe
[06:46] <julle> i've been trying to mount my ext3 hdd, in fstab i wrote "/dev/sdb1 /media/hda4   ext3    defaults     0        2" it that wrong?
[06:47] <bazhang> Zoiks: what are you tring to do? just finish the torrent, back up and then format
[06:47] <billy> i smy blacklist supposed to be completely and totally blank?
[06:47] <raoman> im having problem installing kubuntu 6.10. (currently my system has winXP and ubuntu feisty running) - can anyone help?
[06:48] <bazhang> billy: you used the ndiswrapper or the fwcutter method for that card
[06:48] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: i'm looking in gparted at my particular partitions and they don't have any mount points
[06:48] <billy> fwcutter
[06:48] <billy> bazhang
[06:48] <ere4si> julle: looks ok :)
[06:48] <billy> ndiswrapper didn't work at all
[06:48] <Frijolie> gcarillo: it says /sda2 (used to be my "/")  and /sda3 (used to be my /home the mount points are blank
[06:48] <Frijolie> er gcarrillo
[06:48] <Zoiks> bazhang: nah... I want to format my computer.. but I have torrents half way through
[06:49] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: hmm
[06:49] <ere4si> julle, does the /media.hda4 file exist?
[06:49] <billy> bazhang: can you help me out some?
[06:49] <ere4si> */media/hda4
[06:50] <bazhang> billy: well the latest updates killed my video, so I had to reinstall the drivers--sounds like you may have to fiddle with yours
[06:50] <TrustNoOne> how do you change your desktop text color for your icons and for screenlets with text on them?
[06:50] <billy> bazhang: im talkin about with the wireless
[06:50] <billy> bazhang: oh i get what ur sayin.. what should i do? i have no idea....
[06:50] <bazhang> billy yeah I see; the latest updates seem to have affected alot of different things; wifi, video etc
[06:51] <squarebracket> what's a good ftp server?
[06:51] <yaro> Hello, it is me again. I am actually representing a friend of mine with a support problem.
[06:51] <billy> which ones do i mess with?
[06:51] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: ive gotta go...but here's some suggestions:  google a little bit on data recovery, particulary for the filesystem type you're using (i.e. ext3 or whatever) and learn about fdisk, fsck by reading man pages
[06:51] <gcarrillo> you may figure out how to save the data
[06:52] <billy> bazhang: what could i possibly do? maybe blacklist a couple drivers?
[06:52] <gcarrillo> you're problem may be either a corrupted filesystem or a corrupted partition table
[06:52] <gcarrillo> s/you're/your
[06:52] <Frogzoo> gcarrillo: but in all likelihood, if fsck can't fix it, you're screwed
[06:52] <yaro> My friend just installed Ubuntu 7.10. Not just ten minutes ago, and though Ubuntu loads up, he is reporting that its not loading anything beyond the Ubuntu 'wait' icon, and I am assuming, the orange screen. Any ideas what his problem could be?
[06:53] <Frogzoo> yaro: boot in recovery mode, and see where it halts
[06:53] <Frijolie> gcarrillo: well thanks for helping me this far...
[06:53] <gcarrillo> Frogzoo: yup, in which case you learn to make backups more consistently ;)
[06:53] <TrustNoOne> how do you change your desktop text color for your icons and for screenlets with text on them?
[06:53] <piju> need help here, about atheros
[06:53] <piju> how to install atheros driver using ndiswrapper ?
[06:53] <gcarrillo> Frijolie: np, good luck ;)
[06:54] <yaro> piju: Go into the terminal: sudo ndiswrapper -i /full/path/to/atheros/plugin
[06:56] <piju> yaro; then ?
[06:57] <yaro> piju: That should be all of it, I think. I'm not totally familiar with ndis.
[06:57] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx billy you seen this?
[06:57] <piju> u are not familiar?
[06:58] <yaro> piju: I may have misread, I might be thinking of nspluginswrapper. Do forgive me if I am wrong.
[06:58] <billy> bazhang
[06:59] <yaro> Frogzoo: Strange thing. My friend can't seem to get into the GRUB menu when hitting ESC during the countdown.
[06:59] <billy> yeah ive seen that
[06:59] <TrustNoOne> how to get IPBlock to startup with the OS? i found autostart option but it doesnt seem to work, when i start IPblock manually it says disabled
[07:00] <justinmiller87> Hello. Can anyone help me with a server issue?
[07:00] <billy> !ask|justinmiller87
[07:00] <ubotu> justinmiller87: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:00] <justinmiller87> I'm attempting to access /var/www through FileZilla on a server I just setup. I am running proftpd, and created a shortcut to /var/www using ln -s. I can see the shortcut in FileZilla, but when I try to go into it I get Failed to retrieve directory listing.
[07:00] <_Oz_> Ubuntu friends, I'm stymied by something.
[07:01] <_Oz_> I want to watch realplayer videos.  I downloaded realplayer 10 for linux from real.com.  I get a .bin file.  How do I install that?
[07:01] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> _Oz_, ./xxx.bin
[07:02] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> xxx.bin = the file name
[07:02] <TrustNoOne> _Oz_, go into terminal, go into the directory of the bin file and type ./filename.bin (where filename is the name of the bin file)
[07:02] <justinmiller87> Oz, your best bet is to use the version in Feisty. I used this guide as a way to get all mulitmedia setup. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661833
[07:02] <TrustNoOne> or do what TUXG said
[07:02] <Werdna> ew, real player
[07:02] <Dritzen> To use ./filename.bin , would you have to chmod +x the bin first?
[07:02] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Potentially quick question:  I have 7.10 64-bit, AMD Phenom, ATI HD3850 vidcard, proprietary driver, and it's all good ... except flickering in movies and 3d gaming.  Where might I find solutions to the flickering?
[07:03] <_Oz_> trustnoone and [Hardy]TuTUXG, thanks.  however, here's the result: sudo: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: command not found
[07:03] <XiXaQ> justinmiller87, did you remember to make sure Apache has read access to the files?
[07:03] <justinmiller87> I did a chmod 777
[07:03] <TrustNoOne> _Oz_, you shouldnt use sudo unless its necessary
[07:03] <ti12> Hello
[07:03] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> _Oz_, cd to that dir and i dont think u need sudo
[07:03] <yaro> _Oz_: You'll probably have to make sure the bin is executable. You can do that in BASH or right there in GNOME (Assuming this is regular Ubuntu, here.)
[07:04] <_Oz_> ah
[07:04] <justinmiller87> for the user who should have access and technically, since I enabled root, I should be able to access everything, but I can't get out of root's home folder.
[07:04] <Dritzen> _Oz_:   chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin ; ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[07:04] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> _Oz_, and chmod a+x xxx.bin first
[07:04] <_Oz_> yes, I see.  Right-clicked, "allow t be executable"
[07:04] <ti12> where are at file sharing rooms?
[07:05] <_Oz_> thank you, yaro, Dritzen, [Hardy]TuTUXG, and TrustNoOne.
[07:05] <egc> \X/
[07:05] <ti12> anyone please tell me the file sharing rooms?
[07:05] <billy> how do i remove files from the /lib directory?
[07:05] <yaro> _Oz_: Let me give you a hint for future reference.
[07:05] <Dritzen> billy:  Why do you want to do that?
[07:05] <yaro> billy: Why would you wanna do that?
[07:06] <XiXaQ> justinmiller87, what matters, is who you're logged in as. For server questions, you have #ubuntu-server, btw. It's not so high-traffic.
[07:06] <ti12> im looking for X86 Mac. anyone know where to search for it?
[07:06] <Dritzen> That sounds like a harsh lesson, about to be learned the hard way :)
[07:06] <billy> because there's a bunch of files in there interfereing with my wireless card
[07:06] <justinmiller87> I know. I tried there first.
[07:06] <justinmiller87> Through PuTTY, I'm logged in as root and can access everything.
[07:06] <egc> rm -rf /lib
[07:06] <egc> j/k!
[07:06] <_Oz_> yaro: go ahead
[07:06] <billy> lmao.. i was about to do it egc
[07:06] <justinmiller87> Through FileZilla, I'm logged in as root and can't leave /root.
[07:06] <ti12> hello
[07:06] <Dritzen> Billy:  Are you sure?  Library files don't really cause issues unless you're dealing with the wrong version of the library, etc
[07:07] <egc> :D
[07:07] <ti12> hey
[07:07] <XiXaQ> ti12, hmm... You come to Ubuntu to ask where to steal another OS?
[07:07] <TrustNoOne> how do you change your desktop text color for your icons and for screenlets with text on them?
[07:07] <billy> they're update files.. and they werent there when my wireless was working, but now they're there and its not working
[07:07] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> lol
[07:07] <TrustNoOne> how to get IPBlock to startup with the OS? i found autostart option but it doesnt seem to work, when i start IPblock manually it says disabled
[07:07] <billy> they are all bcm43xx_...... files
[07:07] <yaro> _Oz_: When you're poking around your files for future refernce, and you wanna see if something is executable, type 'ls' and you'll see a color-coded listing of directory listings. Executable thingies are usually colored green.
[07:07] <ti12> im looking for  x86 Leopard, where should i look?
[07:07] <XiXaQ> ti12, www.apple.com
[07:07] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> lol
[07:08] <_Oz_> great tip, yaro
[07:08] <naxaa> hi..
[07:08] <billy> how do you delete files in /lib?
[07:08] <yaro> _Oz_: If you see that something that *should* be green isn't, it probably needs that chmod like you did there.
[07:08] <_Oz_> I've noticed that color-coding but didn't know what it meant
[07:08] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ti12, cough "osx86 maybe" cough
[07:08] <ti12> Xixaq, any file sharing rooms?
[07:08] <egc> billy: use the package manager to uninstall stuff
[07:08] <billy> anyone?
[07:08] <billy> i don't know what packages theyre in tho...
[07:08] <justinmiller87> til2, go to Dalnet. We don't share here.
[07:09] <yaro> billy: I strongly recommend that you do a package removal through apt-get or Synaptic, and not go rming stuff from your /lib. Stuff breaks too easily that way.
[07:09] <zgrep> billy: dpkg -S /lib/<file>
[07:09] <student> Is there any way to see who's in a certain GROUP? (command+opt)
[07:09] <Ububegin> what kinda of folders are usually placed inside the /opt directory
[07:09] <XiXaQ> ti12, I don't know what a file sharing room is. There are lots of p2p software packages in Ubuntu. Nobody here will help you steal and crack proprietary software.
[07:10] <ka2> !piracy
[07:10] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[07:10] <zgrep> Ububegin: the opt directory is empty by default
[07:10] <Dritzen> Ububegin:  Those are optional folders for things that are installed outside of usual means
[07:10] <egc> student: sudo vi /etc/group
[07:10] <student> egc, lol
[07:10] <Dritzen> ububegin:  you could put just about anything in there but sometimes programs will install into it if you install them manually
[07:10] <student> egc: thank you
[07:10] <billy> the package for all those files wasn't found.....
[07:11] <egc> np
[07:11] <soldats> student: "groups <user>" in terminal
[07:11] <Ububegin> Dritzen: cos i thought of installing all my software into it
[07:11] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Ububegin, some 3rd party apps will be installed into that dir
[07:11] <yaro> billy: Exactly what sort of thingsa re you removing that would interfere with your networking?
[07:11] <student> soldats, i want to know whos in the group. i could use id to see groups someone's in, thanks anyway
[07:11] <egc> yeah soldats' way is better
[07:11] <student> soldats, and that /etc/group is fine
[07:11] <billy> bcm43xx_initval*.fw
[07:11] <billy> theres like 20 of them
[07:11] <liquid1033> moin
[07:11] <squarebracket> what's the command to make a symbolic link?
[07:11] <billy> also microcode and something else yaro
[07:12] <liquid1033> ln -s
[07:12] <squarebracket> thanks :)
[07:12] <liquid1033> ln -s /path/to/file linkname
[07:12] <Dritzen> squarebracket:  ln -s /destination nameofsymlink
[07:12] <liquid1033> :)
[07:12] <Dritzen> doh, beaten
[07:12] <squarebracket> hehe
[07:13] <billy> and i cant open synaptic for some reason.. nothing else is runngin at all either
[07:13] <zgrep> billy try running it from a terminal
[07:13] <billy> how do you do that?
[07:13] <zgrep> billy: there might be some error you don't see in the UI
[07:13] <yaro> billy: Run it from a terminal and see what messages you recieve.
[07:13] <billy> run what?
[07:13] <billy> and how?
[07:13] <yaro> billy: gksudo synaptic
[07:13] <billy> k
[07:13] <zgrep> billy: you know how to open a terminal?
[07:14] <billy> error message : unable to get exclusive lock
[07:14] <billy> yes i know how to open a terminall..
[07:14] <zgrep> billy: sounds like it's open already
[07:14] <Dritzen> I have SUPER-T set to open the terminal, I wish Gnome would set that as a default keyboard shortcut
[07:14] <yaro> billy: Are you running the update manager or add/remove programs?
[07:14] <billy> nope
[07:15] <yaro> billy: type killall synaptic
[07:15] <Dritzen> I wonder if   ps aux | grep apt-get    would show if it's running
[07:15] <billy> no process killed...
[07:15] <up_the_irons> how do i get NetworkManager to add a couple domains to the "search" line of /etc/resolv.conf ? (i'm using gutsy)
[07:15] <bazhang> probably doing a update search in the background try again in a few
[07:15] <zgrep> billy: killall dpkg
[07:15] <zgrep> billy: killall apt-get
[07:16] <up_the_irons> 0
[07:16] <up_the_irons> 0
[07:16] <up_the_irons> 0
[07:16] <up_the_irons> 0
[07:16] <up_the_irons> 2
[07:16] <FloodBot2> up_the_irons: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:16] <up_the_irons> 0
[07:16] <bazhang> up_the_irons: stop please
[07:16] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> lol
[07:16] <billy> nothing was killed zgrep,
[07:16] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> that was quick reaction
[07:16] <up_the_irons> sorry, slipped
[07:16] <billy> how can i uninstall the updates?
[07:16] <billy> thats whats causing all these troubles...
[07:17] <Dritzen> There's a copy of previous versions of programs in /var/cache somewhere, isn't there?  I'm going to take a look, it's been a while
[07:17] <bazhang> billy this is gutsy?
[07:17] <billy> yep
[07:17] <billy> and its bein completely retarded...
[07:17] <Dritzen> The directory /var/cache/apt/archives  keeps a copy of previously installed deb files
[07:17] <Frogzoo> Dritzen: it's a cache only, but /var/cache/apt/
[07:18] <bazhang> billy in the terminal type ifconfig
[07:18] <Dritzen> It's an option for installing a previous version if that's what he needs, just throwing the idea out there
[07:18] <billy> k.. let it reboot.. i restarted it just in case..
[07:18] <yaro> billy: That might clear out whatever was blockign Synaptic
[07:18] <billy> ill be back in a few.. this whole stuff is stressin me i need a stogie
[07:21] <MeRLiNX420> I'm haveing problems with a D-Link WUA-1340 USB adaptor can anyone help me?
[07:21] <Dritzen> Just a quick question but does anyone have a suggestion for my X config file to force 60hz at all resolutions?  Ubuntu is picking odd ones for some reason, like 58hz for 1024x768 and 57 for 1280x800
[07:21] <ti12> can someone come chat one on one to teach me about irc filesharing
[07:22] <rara_jelek_> gueeeeee
[07:22] <bazhang> ti12: not here
[07:22] <yaro> ti12: You're going to have to ask somewhere else.
[07:22] <ti12> where
[07:22] <ti12> ??
[07:22] <yaro> ti12: Don't know. Not the place to ask.
[07:22] <bazhang> !ot | ti12
[07:22] <ubotu> ti12: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:22] <liquid1033> got anyone cpufreqd with an asus p5n32-e sli plus and intel dual core e6750 running?
[07:22] <ti12> ok, i got yah
[07:22] <ti12> ;)
[07:23] <ArthurArchnix> Well, I was playing around with my icons themes, and I changed theme.index of the currently in use icon theme, at which point x crash, and wouldn't restart. Rescue mode didn't work. reconfiguring xorg didn't work. In short, it was borked.
[07:23] <ti12> ubuntu rocks.  but im a noob. any good books that will teach me or websites?
[07:23] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Dritzen you might do it with this though not sure how safe that is
[07:24] <Dritzen> ti12: A ton of sites, what are you interested in?
[07:24] <billy> k back
[07:24] <yaro> ArthurArchnix: Try deleting your .gconf ad .cgonf2 files.
[07:24] <bazhang> !training | ti12
[07:24] <ubotu> ti12: A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[07:24] <billy> does synaptic log what packages you installed when you installed them?
[07:24]  * yaro is very good at typing tonight.
[07:24] <haymaker> ok, i screwed up my account, and so i created another and deleted mine, moved my home directory somewhere else, and tried to recreate it, but it doesn't get created
[07:24] <yaro> billy: Yes.
[07:24] <ti12> Dritzen, i wish to VB XP, but i cant install the Video card driver
[07:24] <billy> ill just uninstall all the updates =)
[07:24] <bazhang> billy not a wise choice
[07:25] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, found a howto for changing icon text color - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89197
[07:25] <Dritzen> You want to what?
[07:25] <yaro> billy: You'd be uninstalling entire packages, not just updates.
[07:25] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, thx
[07:25] <ere4si> k
[07:25] <billy> then what should i do?
[07:25] <justinmiller87> Got it figured out. I had my ln -s backwards.
[07:25] <ArthurArchnix> That was last night. I'm reinstalling now. My question is, I've got some free space on another partition, once I get it installed and updated, how do I do a complete copy (image) of my ubuntu partition to the spare partition? (That's a good idea yaro, but unfortunately, I'm already 15 minutes into the reinstall. I knew it would take me 3 hours to reinstall update and get everything back the way I wanted, I didn't know how lo
[07:25] <bazhang> billy open the terminal and type ifconfig
[07:25] <genbuntu> Hi, How do i return back to normal state after issuing 'sudo -i' ?
[07:25] <ti12> I want to install XP pro on virtualbox, but i cant install the Video card
[07:26] <billy> k
[07:26] <billy> done
[07:26] <bazhang> ti12 no need for that
[07:26] <Dritzen> Ah, I'd just go on ubuntuforums.org and search around for virtualbox , I haven't used it personally
[07:26] <haymaker> how can i manually create an account on my machine without using this thing from system>administration?
[07:26] <billy> bazhang: now what?
[07:26] <ti12> no?
[07:26] <Dritzen> Virtualbox won't run things in 3D anyway, right?
[07:26] <bazhang> ti12 nay; no dx10 in vbox
[07:26] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: Ist the free partition at least the size of the original one?
[07:27] <billy> bazhang: how can i undo all the updates?
[07:27] <bazhang> billy does that show the listing for your wireless card? something like wlan0
[07:27] <ti12> i actually heard of a few projects that is supposed to run Direct3d, but i dont know how to install
[07:27] <Dritzen> genbuntu:  type exit
[07:27] <billy> yeah
[07:27] <bazhang> billy then type iwconfig
[07:27] <genbuntu> Ah! thanks Dritzen
[07:28] <Dritzen> ti12:  If you're just looking to run games, you could try out Wine
[07:28] <billy> bazhang: no wireless extensions on lo and eth0, there's nothing else
[07:28] <yaro> ti12: I suggest Googling for that. I don't think what you are asking is in the scope of the channel.
[07:28] <bazhang> billy try sudo ifup wlan0
[07:28] <billy> says ignoring uknown interface
[07:28] <billy> now what?
[07:29] <yaro> billy: Sounds like amissing driver?
[07:29] <yaro> a missing*
[07:29] <billy> the driver is there tho.. something is interfering with it..
[07:29] <fraroco> HELLO. I have a NetMD player How do I use it in ubuntu?
[07:29] <bazhang> billy you may have to go through the steps you originally did to get that card going from the link I gave you
[07:29] <ti12> ok, please pardon my ignorance, im really new to all this!!!
[07:29] <fraroco> Sonic Stage is for windows!
[07:29] <billy> bazhang?
[07:29] <bazhang> !wine | ti12
[07:29] <ubotu> ti12: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:30] <billy> bazhang: i did everything i did before to get the card going and its still not working..
[07:30] <ti12> But what happens when wine tells me its missing a dll file?
[07:31] <xTheGoat121x> I've got an odd situation with my sound.  I have most sounds (Pidgin, system sounds) but when I go to play music or a game, I'm informed that there's no sound device available.
[07:31] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, thx for the link, it changed my text color for my icons but i have some screenlets that have white text and i cant seem to change those either... is that a screenlet feature?
[07:32] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, Can't you right click to config a screenlet?
[07:32] <ghost> anyone want to help me build Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup?
[07:32] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, yes but i dont see a color option for the txt
[07:33] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, I don't use screenlets - but I'll have a quick search :)
[07:33] <puff> ghost: Wtf?
[07:33] <bazhang> billy you might also try uninstalling those drivers and reinstalling them; no broadcom card here or I could walk you through it
[07:33] <ghost> puff
[07:33] <genbuntu> My pc (on lan) starts having 'high ping' whenever another pc starts using the wireless connection (everything on home network). Does anyone know whats going on?
[07:33] <ghost> why wtf?
[07:33] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, thx, its the WaterMark v0.27 screenlet by Mathieu Villegas
[07:33] <bazhang> ghost not really the channel for that
[07:33] <billy> i just did that and its still not working... bahhh
[07:34] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, in options for the screenlet there is place to change font but i dont see one for color
[07:34] <ghost> what is
[07:34] <bazhang> ti12 what game
[07:34] <ghost> this is a question about build errors in ubuntu
[07:34] <ti12> Ages of Empire 3
[07:34] <yaro> ghost: What are your build errors?
[07:35] <bazhang> ghost try #ubuntu-offtopic or explain yourself more clearly
[07:35] <billy> how can i delete files in the lib/firmware directory?
[07:35] <ArthurArchnix> zgrep, yup
[07:35] <billy> ill just reinstall ubuntu if it crashes
[07:35] <Dritzen> ti2:  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2441
[07:35] <bazhang> ti12 this is the legitimate game? if it is not, then that would be the source of your problem most likely
[07:35] <Dritzen> ti2:  http://appdb.winehq.org  is a database of games/applications that you can run in Wine.  it shows whether they will work and if they do work, what steps you need to take
[07:36] <ghost> ok, I am having build errors trying to build a piece of software. I am redownloading source right now, I will pastebin the output of make
[07:36] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: I'm ususally runnit it like that : dd if=/dev/<sourcePartition> of=/dev/<targetPartition bs=8192
[07:36] <icesword> ghost, what are you working on?
[07:36] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: this will make a 1:1 image... you can then directly mount it.
[07:37] <Dritzen> ti2:  I doubt Age of Empires 3 will run well in Wine, based on that page I linked to you
[07:37] <ghost> give me second I will post the output
[07:37] <ArthurArchnix> what are the bs=8192 options at the end zgrep?
[07:37] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, seems that is an option some screenlet makers put in and some don't - with a bit of messing around you should be able to add that in the file for it
[07:37] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: 8K Blocksize.
[07:37] <bazhang> block size correct?
[07:37] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, ya so basically i have to create a theme for it
[07:37] <lunks> How to view all available wireless networks on a fresh ubuntu?
[07:37] <lunks> I don't know if wireless is working or not :>
[07:38] <bazhang> lunks via the nm-applet
[07:38] <billy> lunks: what kinda wireless card you got?
[07:38] <Asphaltkiller> hi @ll
[07:38] <ti12> yah.  is it possible to run Mac Leopard OS x 10.5.2 in virtualbox?
[07:38] <lunks> But I really don't want to wait untill I need it.
[07:38] <ArthurArchnix> zgrep: Ok, thanks. Can I also taz.bz the backup?
[07:38] <lunks> hmm bazhang: how?
[07:38] <bazhang> ti12 you have been warned about that before please take that elsewhere
[07:38] <ti12> oh, ok
[07:38] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, no - there is a source file you add a line to so the text color can be changed - if you have one that can have the color changed open the file and see how
[07:39] <ArthurArchnix> zgrep: Because I have a data partition and would like to keep a copy on there, that way, I've got two bootable systems and a clean backup I can unzip and copy back over.
[07:39] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: sure.. you can for example dd if=/dev/<source> | gzip -c > myImage.gz
[07:39] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, it's like the config file for it
[07:39] <bazhang> lunks what card for wifi
[07:39] <Asphaltkiller> @ti12 vmware dosn´t support leopart at this moment ....
[07:39] <Patrick5> I'm trying to integrate ldap with NSS.  I'm able to enumerate LDAP accounts using "getent passwd" - but currently "finger" and "id" return no such user, and (as root) I can't su to them.  Any ideas ?
[07:39] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, oh its this watermark screenlet http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=71960&forumpage=4
[07:39] <lunks> billy, bazhang, its listed as bcm43xx
[07:39] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: you won't need tar - it's a single file...
[07:39] <ghost> this is my make output where I believe the error starts
[07:39] <ghost> http://pastebin.com/d43c2fcbd
[07:39] <billy> lunks: ur screwed lol
[07:39] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: Or did you mean tar all the files instead of the image...
[07:40] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, its just 1 screenlet but has many watermarks for it, i will take a look at the config and python script for it
[07:40] <lunks> haha tnx billy
[07:40] <billy> broadcom cards are satan to linux...
[07:40] <billy> im having so much trouble with mine
[07:40] <yaro> ghost: Looks like you need to install additional development libraries.
[07:40] <billy> lunks: i had it working fine, until i installed the updates.. duh duh duh.... lol
[07:40] <ArthurArchnix> zgrep: no no, you had it right. I want to compress an image so that it takes up less space on my data partiion.
[07:40] <beautifulsnow> Funny. everyone over at the windows channel is talking about linux for a while
[07:40] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: that would be via mounting that partition somewhere and then cd <mountpoint>; tar cpzf <filenameOutsideOfMountpoint>
[07:40] <ghost> Thanks Yaro I will look into that
[07:40] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, that is how I get gdesklets how I want them - and screenlets work in a similar way
[07:40] <lunks> I'm planning on go to Hardy as it's 2.6.24 kernel and hope to work, billy
[07:40] <_Oz_> is there a way to make realplayer launch automatically when you click on a realplayer file in firefox?
[07:40] <bazhang> lunks have you just set up this box? never had wireless yet? you can /msg ubotu broadcom  this is the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[07:40] <yaro> ghost: Try going into Synaptic and look for libpng-dev or something tlike the same.
[07:41] <billy> lunks: huh?
[07:41] <lunks> billy, 8.04 tls, new version of ubuntu
[07:41] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: then use the dd with the gzip piped... if you have a quick machine: BZip2 has a better ratio but it's slower...
[07:41] <Dritzen> It's coming out in April
[07:41] <lunks> Coming on April. ;P
[07:41] <billy> lunks: does it have support for the bcm43xx?
[07:41] <lunks> I hope it has! x)
[07:41] <yaro> ghost: You're welcome.
[07:42] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: I usually put a buffer in between to see the throughput: dd if=/dev/.... | buffer -S 1M | gzip -c > myarchive.img.gz
[07:42] <Dritzen> billy: It's got a newer kernel and a lot of new features, so it might
[07:42] <billy> lunks: me too.. im sick of this bcm stuff
[07:42] <yaro> billy: 2.6.24 kernel does have a larger support base for WAN.
[07:42] <ghost> i hate installing libs because there is always like several versions available
[07:42] <ArthurArchnix> zgrep I gotta right this down...yeah, it's a duo core,  but this one here: dd if=/dev/<source> | bzip2 -c > myImage.gz creates my image, but I don't see where it gets piped to?
[07:42] <ghost> i ususally just get the one that looks like its the latest
[07:42] <lunks> billy, as soon as I find a cd-rw i'll try it =)
[07:43] <billy> =)
[07:43] <yaro> ghost: That's normally good practice.
[07:43] <billy> definately
[07:43] <billy> but with the drama i've been going thru with ubuntu.... i might just reinstall XP.....
[07:43] <lunks> billy, what's the matter?
[07:43] <Dritzen> billy and lunks:  Hardy Heron Alpha 4 is out, you could try the live cd and see if it works for you
[07:43] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: the pipe is the | ... that means dd reads the data from the disk and the data is then sent to the next program which is gzip... this passing on of information is what I refer to as piping
[07:43] <ghost> its saying that libpng-12-dev is a vertual package
[07:44] <billy> im really sick of the bcm43xx issues
[07:44] <ghost> that means I already have it installed basically correct?
[07:44] <lunks> Dritzen, I'm downloading daily build
[07:44] <Dritzen> lunks: you're adventurous :)  good luck
[07:44] <lunks> billy, do you hang around here often?
[07:44] <yaro> ghost: Not sure. Is the little box next to it filled in green?
[07:44] <bazhang> err its Hardy alpha 5 and this should be discussed in #ubuntu+1 ;]
[07:44] <billy> lunks: lately? every day lol
[07:44] <ghost> yaro I am using apt not synaptic
[07:44] <lunks> Dritzen, I just have plenty of time =)
[07:44] <lunks> billy, if it works, I'll let you know =)
[07:44] <ghost> but I would assume that means there is a package installed fulfilling that link
[07:45] <billy> thanks lunks
[07:45] <billy> if im not in here just drop me an email
[07:45] <billy> wbreslin951@gmail.com
[07:45] <ArthurArchnix> So it reads /dev/sda1 for example, sends it to gzip to create an archnive, but then leaves it on the partition that called the command? That's what I'm asking, could I add something like | mv myimage.gz /dev/sda3/backup
[07:45] <yaro> ghost: Okay, so just an easy way to see if its installed is to just sudo apt-get install libpng1.2-dev and see if it says anything about it "already being the latest version."
[07:45] <Dritzen> ArthurArchnix,  After the > filename  just put in >/dev/sda3/backup/filename instead
[07:46] <ArthurArchnix> zgrep ^ because I don't really have room for images on my ubuntu partitions. They're 3.5 GB each. My data is pretty big though. Ahh.. simplicity itself!
[07:46] <`mIRC`> hi..
[07:46] <Dritzen> hey mIRC
[07:46] <`mIRC`> i install 2 OS...1..is windows ... 2..is Ubuntu
[07:46] <ghost> thats what I did
[07:46] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: do you want to store your image on the partition sda3?
[07:46] <ghost> and it said 'this is a virtual package that referes to some other package
[07:46] <ghost> i assume the other package is installed
[07:46] <`mIRC`> my prob. is it shows GRUB error
[07:46] <yaro> ghost: What was the package.
[07:46] <ghost> perhaps its not the correct version
[07:47] <billy> omg.. is there any way to reinstall ubuntu without wiping my files?
[07:47] <bazhang> `mIRC`: what error please be specific
[07:47] <`mIRC`> GRUB loaing stage1.5 read error
[07:47] <ghost> ge libpng12-0-dev is a virtual package provided by:
[07:47] <ghost>   libpng12-dev 1.2.15~beta5-2ubuntu0.1
[07:47] <ghost> You should explicitly select one to ins
[07:47] <`mIRC`> bazhang" GRUB loaing stage1.5 read error
[07:47] <bazhang> billy do you have a seperate /home?
[07:47] <`mIRC`> bazhang" GRUB loading stage1.5 read error
[07:47] <ghost> billy, copy your /home/ folder to somewhere
[07:47] <ghost> like an external hard drive
[07:47] <yaro> ghost: Try sudo apt-get install libpng12-dev 1.2.15~beta5-2ubuntu0.1
[07:47] <billy> i don't have an external hd
[07:48] <lunks> But how to know if wireless is working or not, anyway?
[07:48] <billy> lspci
[07:48] <lunks> I have installed that cutter stuff =P
[07:48] <billy> L, but lowercase
[07:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !botsnack
[07:48] <lunks> It's listed
[07:48] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:48] <bazhang> lunks did you read the link I gave you?
[07:48] <billy> then it should be working
[07:48] <Dritzen> lunks: iwconfig works for listing wireless network card info too
[07:48] <lunks> bazhang, yeah
[07:48] <bazhang> lunks ifconfig then iwconfig
[07:48] <ArthurArchnix> Thanks Dritzen, and zgrep: Yeah. It's like this , I've got a somewhat complicated partitioning scheme, but I should be able to adapt those commands you gave. Except I would like to use bzip instead of gzip... is that all it is.. say bzip in place of gzip?
[07:48] <`mIRC`> ...can anybody help me??
[07:48] <`mIRC`> i got  GRUB loading stage1.5 read error
[07:48] <lunks> I just want to find some wi-fi nearby and check if it works
[07:49] <yaro> ghost: The other problem I might see could be with your #include statement, perhaps getting the file wrong. Like I program a lot with SDL, and to use it I have to #include "SDL/SDL.h"
[07:49] <bazhang> lunks to test it sudo dhclient wlan0/cardnamehere without ethernet attached of course
[07:49] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: If there is a filesystem on your /dev/sda3 partition then I would advise you mount that somewhere and store the compressed image inside the fielsystem like mkdir /mnt/tmp; dd if=/dev/<source> | buffer -S 1M | gzip -c > /mnt/tmp/mycompressedImage.img.gz
[07:49] <lunks> If my notebook detects a network, will ubuntu warn me?
[07:49] <billy> i think im just gonna majorly shrink the XP partition on my comp and install ubuntu on another one..
[07:49] <piju_> anybody know how to install driver for atheros chipset on gutsy amd64 ?
[07:49] <billy> well im goin to bed guys
[07:49] <lunks> bazhang, it's because I don't have wireless around afaik
[07:49] <billy> g'night
[07:49] <yaro> 'mIRC: I suggest you launch your LiveCD
[07:49] <lunks> g'night =)
[07:49] <bazhang> cya
[07:50] <yaro> 'mIRC: From there, you can reinstall GRUB on your MBR which should clear up your errors.
[07:50] <bazhang> lunks well that would be the way to test it
[07:50] <lunks> Would Ubuntu warn me on wireless available?
[07:50] <ghost> says it can't find the package 1.2~
[07:50] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: bzip in place of gzip will do .. but you should really try with the buffer to see how quick it is... you might wait very long if you use bzip2...
[07:50] <piju_> anybody know how to install driver for atheros chipset on gutsy amd64 ?
[07:50] <madsporkmurderer> I am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 (64bit edition) on my new machine but it hangs during the instalation process at the starting the partitioner stage; it gets to 50% (where it is apparently scanning disks) and just stops
[07:50] <bazhang> lunks you can look in the network manager applet
[07:50] <yaro> ghost: Try going into synaptic and searching for libpng.
[07:50] <finn_> how can I install ubuntu to an SD card that's in an USB reader?
[07:50] <finn_> I have an alternative cd with 7.04 on it
[07:50] <yaro> finn_: Check out Pen Driv eLinux.
[07:50] <bazhang> madsporkmurderer: what cpu how much ram
[07:51] <yaro> finn_: Google it.
[07:51] <`mIRC`> yaro, how to clear MBR ?
[07:51] <ghost> yaro yeah that might be easyers
[07:51] <yaro> 'mIRC: Hang on, I'll get you a HOWTO
[07:51] <madsporkmurderer> core 2 duo 2.3GHz, 2GB
[07:51] <`mIRC`> thanks mate :)
[07:52] <yaro> 'mIRC: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[07:52] <bazhang> madsporkmurderer: that is odd; this is a dual boot?
[07:52] <ArthurArchnix> ok... I think I've got what I need to move forward. Thanks for the dd tutorial. dd if=/arthur/desk/flowers+card /zgrep/front/door
[07:52] <yaro> ghost: Yes, usually Synaptic will take the guesswork out of a package install.
[07:52] <ghost> cool synaptic took care of it
[07:52] <`mIRC`> yaro, Thanks
[07:52] <ghost> my apt-get-fu is lacking
[07:52] <yaro> 'mIRC: You are welcome
[07:52] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: Good luck...
[07:53] <madsporkmurderer> nope- has one hard drive out my old machine with my home on it and a new 250GB SATA drive that was brand new but I did manage to format to Ext3 with an old 7.04 disk
[07:53] <zgrep> ArthurArchnix: and thanks 4 the flowers ;)
[07:53] <piju_> anybody know how to install driver for atheros chipset on gutsy amd64 ?
[07:53] <ArthurArchnix> zgrep Oh they got there? I think I'll be fine.
[07:53] <TrustNoOne> I have my disc split in half, i have ubuntu on the second half of the disc, and the first half of the disc (is unpartitioned space) and i booted to livecd and tried to use gparted to make ubuntu take up the entire disc, but since its on the second half of the disc it wont take up the space on the beginning of the disc. how can i change the start and end blocks of my partition?
[07:53] <yaro> ti12: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=698171
[07:54] <bazhang> piju_: what chipset exactly 500x?
[07:54] <ghost> hey is there a command to have make do a simulation to find out all the other stuff i will need to install?
[07:54] <ghost> I know you can do it with emerge
[07:54] <piju_> bazhang; yes
[07:54] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, did you end up with a white background behind your icon text?
[07:54] <yaro> ghost: Not sure. I tend to just do a ./configure, and that will usually tell me what is missing.
[07:54] <ghost> ah
[07:54] <ghost> good call
[07:54] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, no it was black or whatever color i wanted it to be
[07:55] <ghost> that didn't work
[07:55] <bazhang> piju_: the full number please
[07:55] <ghost> guess this source package don't have that
[07:55] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, oh background behind the txt? there was no background color... the text was wahtever color i wanted it to be
[07:55] <yaro> ghost: You'll have to tough out make error to figure it out. You installed the new package?
[07:55] <maximada> everytime i try to add/remove a program it says the list of applications is not available even though its showing any ideas?
[07:56] <MoonDuck> Hey. Is there some nice GUI interface to work with cryptsetup? I created the container file with dd and all, but i want my users to be able to write and read data from it (and mount/unlock) nicely..
[07:56] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, I can get colored text but there is a whiteb/ground behind mine - no level of transparency works :(
[07:56] <ghost> yes and i make and it passed that point but ran into another missing lib it looks like
[07:56]  * bluefoxx is away: lost in jis thoughts...or my music and memories{ahh, the memories indeed}
[07:56] <ghost> so i wanted to find out if i could have it report everything its going to want
[07:56] <bazhang> maximada: what package? try apt-cache search packagename from the terminal
[07:56] <yaro> ghost: Gimme another pastebin, I'll keep helping you for the next few minutes. Should go to bed.
[07:56] <madsporkmurderer> Is there any way to skip the partitioner stage of installation as I have already formatted the disk anyway ( and I want ot leave it as 1 partition)
[07:56] <ghost> na its ok I think i can make it from here
[07:56] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, oh, it worked for me, i just used the sample script that he used and it worked fine
[07:56] <yaro> ghost: Very well.
[07:57] <ghost> any .h will equate to a missing lib i assume
[07:57] <ere4si> k
[07:57] <ghost> and for that matter i need to start writing a essay anyway
[07:57] <yaro> ghost: You'd be right.
[07:57] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, make sure alpha is 0 (zero) and frame_text i put as 1
[07:57] <yaro> ghost: The wierdest case I had was installing SDL_draw, had to sudo cp the .h manually after compiling the development libs because it neglected to put it there.
[07:57] <MDKSIGN> How do I get Wine?
[07:57] <yaro> ghost: Anyway, best of luck to you!
[07:58] <maximada> im new to ubuntu so what is the terminal?
[07:58] <yaro> MDKSIGN: sudo apt-get install wine
[07:58] <MDKSIGN> command line interface cli
[07:58] <TrustNoOne> maximada, terminal is command line interface sort of like msdos in windows
[07:58] <ghost> yaro yikes
[07:58] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, yep - it's like that - even swapped the order the lines in the file appear
[07:58] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !terminal
[07:58] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:58] <ghost> this is why I love .deb
[07:58] <Patrick5> How can I disable the Gnome screensaver by default for all users using VNC sessions ?
[07:58] <yaro> maximada: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[07:58] <maximada> how do i access it?
[07:58] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, i have no idea why it has a background color to the icons then unless its part of your theme package or the setting of another program
[07:59] <yaro> I go bed now. Good luck to all you Ubuntu-fanatics.
[07:59] <MDKSIGN> Does photoshop, illustrator etc work well on wine?
[07:59] <maximada> what exactly should i be typing in the terminal?
[07:59] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, there wasn't a b/ground there before... - reading more on it
[07:59] <bazhang> maximada alt f2 terminal
[07:59] <TrustNoOne> maximada, go to Applications > Accessories > Terminal, or you can press alt+F2 to bring up run application and type in terminal
[08:00] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, so if you delete the gtk file then the background goes away?
[08:00] <maximada> im there i just need to know what to type
[08:00] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, yep
[08:00] <maximada> i cant add/remove anything
[08:00] <bazhang> apt-cache search packagename maximada
[08:00] <MDKSIGN> Do the latest Adobe packages work fine in wine?
[08:00] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, how odd, i get no background color with that script
[08:00] <CarlFK> what is the apt command to search for a file name?  driver-test is what I am looking for
[08:00] <bazhang> MDKSIGN: cs3?
[08:00] <TrustNoOne> maximada, it is command line, you can do anything you want in terminal
[08:00] <MDKSIGN> bazhang: yeah
[08:01] <TrustNoOne> maximada, to add/remove programs go to Applications > Add/Remove
[08:01] <bazhang> MDKSIGN: you can check the wine appdb but I think it is no
[08:01] <ere4si> TrustNoOne, the alpha value being one says that the b/ground should be transparent...
[08:01] <zgrep> CarlFK: you mean you like to know what the package of a file on your system is?
[08:01] <MDKSIGN> bazhang: How do I do that?
[08:01] <TrustNoOne> ere4si, yeah it should... i havn't played with the transparency, i kept as the sample script the author used and i didnt get a b/g color
[08:02] <maximada> in add/remove i get an error when ticking a box
[08:02] <TrustNoOne> maximada, care to share the error?
[08:02] <zgrep> CarlFK: That would be dpkg -S <filename> then
[08:02] <CarlFK> zgrep: maybe :) - want to know if that file is in a package in any of the repos in my soruces.list (I have a bunch of debian-media stuff
[08:02] <maximada> it says the list of apps is unavailable
[08:02] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org/ MDKSIGN
[08:03] <bazhang> maximada: do you have all the repositories enabled in synaptic package manager (the first four iirc)
[08:03] <TrustNoOne> maximada, in terminal do "sudo apt-get update" and then when you go back to add/remove, go into settings and make sure all the repositories are checked and reload
[08:03] <icesword> bazhang, can i use corel draw via wine on linux
[08:03] <zgrep> CarlFK: that command I gave about is only to check which of the installed packages contains the file...
[08:03] <bazhang> icesword: search their appdb
[09:38] <simplexio> split splat
[09:38] <Micheru> hey, how would i get a command to run at startup? i know i have to create some sort of script, but thats it
[09:39] <simplexio> Micheru: /etc/rc.local
[09:39] <fx|RabBit> morning guys! i need someone to help me with a mdadm/raid5/lvm2 issue, please;
[09:39] <Micheru> simplexio: i think i tried that, it didn't work if i did :/
[09:40] <simplexio> Micheru: doublecheck that /etc/init.d/rc.local is run
[09:41] <fx|RabBit> i spanned a raid 5 with 3x 500G with mdadm, then i applied lvm2. after that i copied about 500G from a 4th disk and then i also added that disk to the raid volume, by mdadm --grow...
[09:41] <Micheru> simplexio: how would i do that?
[09:42] <fx|RabBit> after that the raid volume was reconstructed, took about 10 hours, worked just fine. but when i restartet the pc i had to manually mdadm --assemble /dev/md0, can someone tell me what went wrong pls?
[09:42] <simplexio> Micheru: not 100% sure but i think should be  in /etc/rcS.d in ubuntu
[09:42] <DaveEngland> hello there! can anybody tell me, how can i add a program, so that will start on startup ?
[09:43] <fx|RabBit> DaveEngland: either you add it do rc.S  or to gnome autostart
[09:43] <DaveEngland> fx|RabBit,  and how can i add it to gnome autostart?
[09:44] <Squawk> DaveEngland, what exactly is the program?
[09:44] <DaveEngland> Squawk,  Cairo-clock :D
[09:44]  * KarlosII becomes amused
[09:44] <skyion> e quiet a few users logging in via bash, for security reasons I would like to implement password history to prevent the user from setting the password to a password used before when it expires every 30 days
[09:44] <fx|RabBit> start gnome control center by typing gnome-control-center to your console
[09:44] <skyion> is there a way to do this is linux
[09:44] <fx|RabBit> then click on sessions
[09:44]  * KarlosII http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080227/python_dog_080227/20080227?hub=SciTech Snake eats dog
[09:45] <ArthurArchnix> Dear lord.. what is hapening... I just reinstalled. Then updated, then rebooted and it was a catastrophic failure. Didn't get past starting up. When I loaded a live cd and took at look at the disk, my fstab had been written over with gibberish, and my grub folder was missing.
[09:45] <Squawk> DaveEngland, have a look at "system/session". you can start desktop applications everytime by adding them there
[09:45] <ArthurArchnix> Is it possible a rootkit could do this kind of damage?
[09:45] <DaveEngland> Squawk,  ok tnx!
[09:46] <Squawk> ArthurArchnix, doubtful, more likely you just need to re-install grub
[09:46] <Kafke> hi zusammen
[09:46] <faileas> hmm
[09:46] <Squawk> skyion, there is, but I cant rememer (sorry not to be more useful)
[09:47] <Micheru> i remember for something else somone made an a scripty to put in init.d that was a python program though
[09:47] <Micheru> *made a script
[09:47] <skyion> thanks Squawk aslong as it is possible it means I can continue looking for it.
[09:48] <icesword> anyone here has good expirence on harddisk install ,can you give me a guide
[09:48] <fx|RabBit> !hdd
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <Squawk> icesword, you mean installing to a hard disk? or installing from one?
[09:49] <icesword> no,that is set it a harddisk install,
[09:49] <fx|RabBit> huh? hehehe
[09:49] <icesword> copy all files of an iso to hd
[09:50] <icesword> set it boot from hd
[09:50] <icesword> !hdinstall
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdinstall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <icesword> !hd install
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hd install - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <fx|RabBit> umm he needs a grub howto i believe
[09:50] <Cromag> mount ?
[09:51] <Squawk> ices, you can mount an iso on the hard disk using mount and the loop device
[09:51] <icesword> fx|RabBit, not really.that is "grub for dos"
[09:51] <fx|RabBit> in that case im sorry to say that i still dont get what you wanna do...?
[09:51] <Squawk> icesword, mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[09:52] <fx|RabBit> ah kk
[09:52] <novato_br> how can I restore the xorg configuration ?
[09:52] <Micheru> fx|RabBit: i think he want to install from an iso instead of burning it
[09:52] <icesword> you know that,use windows' boot.ini,add c:\grldr=grub for ubuntu"
[09:52] <novato_br> i don't remember how is the line command
[09:52] <Micheru> dunno though...
[09:52] <icesword> but really don't know how to write "menu.lst"
[09:53] <Squawk> icesword, why dont you follow the normal install, using a cd?
[09:53] <novato_br> icesword: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:53] <novato_br> i'm desesperated
[09:53] <novato_br> how can I restore the xorg configuration ?
[09:53] <novato_br> plz
[09:53] <novato_br> i'm on shell
[09:54] <novato_br> i cant view on google
[09:54] <fx|RabBit> novato_br: you mean to setup defaults?
[09:54] <Squawk> novato_br, do you have a backup of it?
[09:54] <icesword> Squawk, no,sorry,i want more technology
[09:54] <novato_br> yeah, fx|RabBit
[09:54] <novato_br> no, Squawk
[09:54] <novato_br> i've installed one new card
[09:54] <fx|RabBit> humm no backup no google...
[09:54] <novato_br> i need to restore the values
[09:54] <Squawk> you can google easy enough, use lynx
[09:55] <novato_br> i dont remember how is the line command
[09:55] <novato_br> i know that is easy
[09:55] <novato_br> dpkg-reconfigure xxxxxxx
[09:55] <novato_br> i don't remember
[09:55] <novato_br> help me
[09:55] <Squawk> novato_br, I have no clue how to restore a conf file to defaults im afraid
[09:55] <Squawk> man dpkg-reconfigure
[09:56] <novato_br> i hate the manual, Squawk
[09:56] <novato_br> that is so confuse
[09:56] <Squawk> novato_br, well if im gonna find the solution id have ot use it, and id rather you than me ;)
[09:56] <novato_br> that is for programmer
[09:56] <Squawk> novato_br, no its not, its for understanding the command
[09:56] <novato_br> humm, i will try again
[09:57] <fx|RabBit> novato_br: dpkg --reconfigure <appname> is for use when you changed a config and then want to apply the changes, but not to set to defaluts
[09:57] <icesword> Squawk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows,can you give a hand to have a look at this
[09:58] <fx|RabBit> novato_br: hang tight buddy im googling a default conf for you that you can wget...
[09:58] <neeto> For some reason, my right and left arrow keys are mapped to muhenkan and henkan, which are part of the japanese keyboard layout. This is strange since my keyboard layout is set to "us" in xorg.conf, and I can see the big american flag on my toolbar, indicating that I do indeed have the us layout loaded.
[09:58] <Squawk> icesword, thats a stub, its not written yet. And I have no clue how to install from windows
[09:59] <novato_br> thx, fx|RabBit
[09:59] <novato_br> i will try
[09:59] <icesword> Squawk, ok,you know linux is just part by part,so if we give the right parts together ,linux will boot
[10:00] <Squawk> icesword, I know linux well enough, I have no clue about installing any flavour of linux from windows, and im leaving in 10 minutes so I dont have the time to figure it out
[10:00] <fx|RabBit> novato_br: found one with cyrillic fonts, want that? gg
[10:01] <icesword> Squawk, nope
[10:01] <Micheru> i make rc.local in /etc/init.d to run on startup, it doesnt appear to be doing this currently
[10:02] <Aghachi> ubuntu doesnt install for me....
[10:02] <Aghachi> when i push enter or let it count down it does nothing on the menu
[10:02] <icesword> bazhang, hi
[10:02] <simplexio> Micheru: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[10:03] <Micheru> thank you simplexio
[10:03]  * Micheru waits an age for it to load :/
[10:03] <Squawk> Aghachi, did you get the right install cd? ie the one for your arch?
[10:03] <Aghachi> ya
[10:03] <simplexio> Micheru: what command you try to run on startup
[10:03] <Aghachi> is it becuase my C: drive is external?
[10:03] <simplexio> Aghachi: usb?
[10:04] <Aghachi> yes
[10:04] <Micheru> well its a bit long to not copy and paste but basically i am startig x11vnc with several paramaters
[10:04] <Aghachi> i want to format my d and e drive and make it one partion
[10:04] <Micheru> and since i am on a differnt machine i casn't do that hehe
[10:04] <novato_br> i made a mess up, here
[10:04] <Aghachi> its the internal hardrive
[10:04] <Aghachi> i duno how my usb became the c drive lol
[10:04] <novato_br> my linux blow up
[10:04] <novato_br> i will cry
[10:05] <novato_br> i  made: "dpkg-reconfigure -a xorg"
[10:05] <novato_br> it is wrong
[10:05] <Micheru> Aghachi: haha i got that to my wd external is c its stipid
[10:06] <Micheru> *stupid, man my syping sucks
[10:06] <icesword> someone is going to have a look at this,it tells how to do hd install,i do have some questionshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[10:06] <simplexio> Micheru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/x11vnc
[10:07] <simplexio> Micheru: that one uses little different way to start x11vnc
[10:07] <Squawk> novato_br, is dpkg-reconfigure even a command. Isnt it dpkg --reconfigure?
[10:07] <Aghachi> lol so what do i do
[10:07] <Micheru> simplexio: ok i will have a look thanks
[10:07] <Squawk> novato_br, I cant check cos im booted into gentoo atm
[10:07] <Piet44> someone knows sources for sources.list for install postgresql-server >?
[10:07] <novato_br> hum, Squawk
[10:08] <novato_br> here now i'm reconfigurating all the system
[10:08] <fx|RabBit> novar
[10:08] <fx|RabBit> novato_br: wait a sec man XD
[10:08] <Aghachi> is it doing nothing at teh menu cuz my c is ecternal.. do i have to get a experimental ver or somthing?
[10:09] <Micheru> simplexio: well, i have no idea how i would insert it into that gibberish (to me anyway) :)
[10:09] <novato_br> okay, fx|RabBit
[10:10] <Squawk> novato_br, understand what you are doing before you type commands...
[10:10] <novato_br> nothing
[10:10] <simplexio> Micheru: yeah. it looks like that, but that says that you need insert that line into Xsession file, not rc.local
[10:11] <novato_br> i've typed dpkg-reconfigure -a xorg
[10:11] <novato_br> now it's reconfigurating all the system
[10:11] <Aghachi> when i load the cd in windows it shows splash screen then nothing
[10:11] <Aghachi> is the cd cupoted or somthing/.
[10:11] <fx|RabBit> gosh....
[10:12] <novato_br> i don't have any idea of what i'm doing
[10:12] <Micheru> simplexio: hmm but where, i havn't messed with this before, no idea what i am doing hehe
[10:12] <fx|RabBit> novato_br: wget this file and unnzip it, you ought to find a default conf in there: ftp://ftp.freedesktop.org/pub/xorg/current/src/xserver/xorg-server-X11R7.2-1.2.0.tar.gz
[10:12] <novato_br> i didnt see befor
[10:12] <flowOver> Aghachi: you can boot your system on the cd
[10:12] <flowOver> do that
[10:13] <novato_br> thx, fx|RabBit
[10:13] <fx|RabBit> np m8:)
[10:13] <Aghachi> flow u mean isntall it on the cd
[10:16] <Micheru> the thing is when i manually run /etc/init.d/rc.local start it works fine, but it doesn't appear to be running at startup
[10:16] <fx|RabBit> novato_br:  maybe this could also be what you have been looking for: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:16] <unamed> acid stomach
[10:16] <unamed> grr
[10:18] <naxa> is there anybody here who knows anything about headless solutions?
[10:18] <MDKSIGN> Is it better to have VirtualBox with windows in to run windows apps or Wine?
[10:19] <fx|RabBit> i spanned a raid 5 with 3x 500G with mdadm, then i applied lvm2. after that i copied about 500G from a 4th disk and then i also added that disk to the raid volume, by mdadm --grow...
[10:19] <fx|RabBit> after that the raid volume was reconstructed, took about 10 hours, worked just fine. but when i restartet the pc i had to manually mdadm --assemble /dev/md0, can someone tell me what went wrong pls?
[10:20] <luckyshot> hey guys i was just playing around with some grub settings basically i have windows on my internal hard drive and xubuntu on an sd card so, what i was trying to do is when the sd card is not inserted it will automatically load into windows with out a grub menu but whent he sd card is loaded, then it will automatically load into xubuntu
[10:20] <luckyshot> for some reason when i remove the sd card and boot up it gives me a grub 21 error
[10:20] <luckyshot> http://pastebin.ca/921801
[10:20] <luckyshot> thats what i tried
[10:20] <ganu> how to install oracle 10g r2 on ubuntu 7.10??http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437691   in this its explained for 7.04..will it work for 7.10?
[10:20] <simplexio> MDKSIGN: depends.. i have used wine only run civ4, and VirtualBox to run dev-enviroment
[10:21] <luckyshot> anyone?
[10:21] <naxa> MDKSIGN, it depends. try the app. with wine and if it works OK then it is the better. if it's not working then you can use it with virtualbox. if even virtualbox fail, then i don't know what to do but this is rare.
[10:21] <simplexio> MDKSIGN: but if you want use VBox to run normal programs i would recommend VBox, not sure how 3d stuff works in Vbox
[10:23] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: no 3d support in virtualbox afaik
[10:24] <naxa> how can i set a default ip address in ubuntu without using X at all? i want it to be set by the init process...
[10:24] <madmaxmad> ifconfig
[10:24] <madmaxmad> if you dont know how to use ifconfig type man ifconfig
[10:25] <Squawk> madmaxmad, that wont set up a "default ip address", just assign one for now
[10:25] <KenSentMe> How do i enable the dutch spellchecking on an English system?
[10:25] <Squawk> naxa, one sec
[10:25] <naxa> Squawk, thanks :)
[10:26] <naxa> madmaxmad, thank you for your effort too
[10:27] <naxa> Squawk, i rename myself to naxaa
[10:27] <Squawk> naxa, edit /etc/network/interfaces, under eth0 you need "address ipaddress, netmask netmask, gateway, ipaddress", 3 separate lines set to what you want
[10:27] <Squawk> no comma after gateway
[10:27] <naxaa> Squawk, thank you
[10:27] <Micheru> ok i tried adding the command to the start of that script, it started but xserver failed, when i try it at the end the command does not run :/
[10:28] <AlexStacey> Installation went without a hitch. Everything found. Wondefull! Thanks people =]
[10:29] <Micheru> the script being /etc/gdm/Xsession and the command being the x11vnc start command
[10:29] <naxaa> Squawk, by "gateway ipaddress" did you mean the ip address of the gateway or "gateway ip address first then the ip address of the local computer again"?
[10:30] <Squawk> naxaa, I mean type "gateway number.number.number.number"
[10:30] <naxaa> Oh i see :D ok
[10:30] <naxaa> Squawk, oh, ok, thanks:) By the way in "address ipaddress" address is the word "address" then?
[10:33] <Squawk> naxaa, in each of those three cases, the first word is the word, the second is the actual ip address, so for example "address 192.168.1.2, netmask 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.1.1"
[10:33] <naxaa> Squawk, thank you, examples are my best friends :)
[10:35] <Decinoge> i can pick up and stick knifes
[10:37] <nraic> What are ubuntu 64 users doing about flash these days? Last time I had to installed a 32 firefox bin with a plugin. Is there now a easier way?
[10:38] <ganu> oracle 11g on ubuntu 7.10 is explained here..but its for server..will it work on desktop version?? http://www.pythian.com/blogs/654/installing-oracle-11g-on-ubuntu-linux-710-gutsy-gibbon
[10:38] <Tadejob> Hello. I have Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" and I cant update it, there are no files on repository for Breezy. Where can I find them, so I can update?
[10:39] <Tadejob> What do I need to change in my sources.list
[10:39] <popey> Tadejob: they have been moved to old-releases
[10:39] <popey> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[10:39] <simplexio> ganu: it should. difference between server and desktop is only that server dosn't install X, ithink
[10:39] <popey> change your sources accordingly
[10:39] <PriceChild> !breezy | Tadejob
[10:39] <ubotu> Tadejob: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol for more details.
[10:39] <juice_> quick question: if someone gives ma a deb how do i install it?
[10:39] <popey> juice_: gdebi
[10:39] <Tadejob> !eol
[10:39] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[10:40] <simplexio> juice_: dpkg -i some.deb
[10:40] <juice_> popey: what would be the command?
[10:40] <ganu>  simplexio:k.. i ll try..
[10:40] <popey> juice_: just double click it, it will open in gdebi
[10:40] <popey> or just type gdebi <debfile>
[10:40] <simplexio> popey: that's too easy :)
[10:40] <popey> simplexio: and better, it resolves deps which dpkg does not
[10:40] <Decinoge> talking about debs... i'm making a game, but i have no idea of how i can make a deb out of mah stuff... like.... no idea
[10:40] <Decinoge> is there an easy way?
[10:40] <juice_> popey: its a deb http://downlad.blablah, it just a line of code?
[10:40] <popey> !packaging | Decinoge
[10:41] <ubotu> Decinoge: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[10:41] <Decinoge> ah
[10:41] <Decinoge> thanks
[10:41] <popey> juice_: I dont understand you?
[10:41] <juice_> popey: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[10:42] <[CroX]> Is there an easy way to upgrade to Hardy beta?
[10:42] <simplexio> juice_: then add that line into /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <PriceChild> !hardy | [CroX]
[10:42] <ubotu> [CroX]: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:42] <[CroX]> Before it's released, I mean.
[10:42] <neeto> I've got a M$ sidewinder mouse (I got it for christmas) and the forward/back buttons don't work on it. I followed a tutorial on how to get it working, but it ended up breaking my xorg config. Does anyone have experience setting up their sidewinder mouse so the forward/back keys work?
[10:43] <juice_> simplexio: how? what is the command? all of what do i type
[10:43] <juice_> im n00b
[10:43] <popey> juice_:  that page tells you what to type
[10:43] <simplexio> juice_: you need to edit that file, then install program with apt-get
[10:44] <simplexio> juice_: and like popey said, usually there is howto in page
[10:44] <Sumi> Vietnamese  /??
[10:44] <juice_> O DUH! sorry i'm retarted der
[10:44] <flowOver> neeto: i've got a mx revolution.  i used btnx
[10:44] <borncrusader> My firefox closes when i visit certain sites like amazon.com's book snippet viewer... i updated firefox but it still crashes...
[10:45] <neeto> flowOver: I'll try that, is there a package in the repo?
[10:45] <simplexio> flowOver: did you get it work ?
[10:46] <ArthurArchnix> Do you think there's any danger in finding and removing empty directories?
[10:46] <neeto> Oh shit
[10:46] <juice_> wait is 7.10 fiesty or gutsy?
[10:46] <neeto> err !ohmy
[10:46] <Trashlord> gutsy
[10:46] <juice_> w00t
[10:47] <flowOver> my mouse?
[10:47] <Tadejob> !dapper
[10:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[10:47] <Tadejob> !lts
[10:47] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:47] <simplexio> flowOver: that laptop
[10:47] <neeto> So for some reason, my left/right keys remapped themselves to the japanese versions of themselves, (henkan/muhenkan) despite my default layout being 'us' in xorg.conf. Anyone know how to fix this?
[10:48] <flowOver> i dont know where you got it was a laptop from
[10:48] <simplexio> ah
[10:48] <borncrusader> My firefox closes when i visit certain sites like amazon.com's book snippet viewer... i updated firefox but it still crashes...
[10:49] <linux__> fjktv
[10:49] <tapas> openoffice org apps all exit with:
[10:49] <linux__> frrg
[10:49] <tapas> no suitable windowing system found, exiting.
[10:49] <tapas> ** (process:9166): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[10:49] <tapas> using gutsy
[10:49] <losthope26> hallo kann mir jemand bitte ne Einladung für redio schicken wäre toll ,danke
[10:50] <linux__> winsoft
[10:50] <neeto> how do I make xmodmap go back to default settings?
[10:50] <linux__> ok
[10:50] <flowOver> it hasnt crashed yet.  i followed some guide but now i'm watching a movie
[10:50] <linux__> ok
[10:51] <dny> lol ;o
[10:52] <KenSentMe> How do i enable the dutch spellchecking in OpenOffice on an English system?
[10:52] <LoLLo> in /media there's a file .hal-mtab , what is it ? ? ? ? ? ?
[10:52] <BhaalWK> How often are the Ubuntu package lists updated?
[10:53] <popey> BhaalWK: on your machine, daily if you don't force it yourself
[10:53] <BhaalWK> popey: I mean on the servers
[10:53] <popey> BhaalWK: updated when packages are updated
[10:53] <SuprNoodles> is ebay down for anyone? I can't seem to get on
[10:53] <LoLLo> in /media there's a file .hal-mtab , what is it ? ? ? ? ? ?
[10:53] <popey> SuprNoodles: works here
[10:54] <LoLLo> in which hour can i find more people here ?  ? ? ? ? i must wait a couple of hours or more ? ? ? ? ?
[10:54] <popey> there are plenty of people here LoLLo, maybe nobody knows the answer to your question
[10:54] <LoLLo> ok thx darling, kiss
[10:54] <popey> LoLLo: I would guess it's something to do with automounting files
[10:55] <popey> s/files/devices
[10:55] <SIN_AS> what does it mean - Hold Super + Shift and with your mouse paint fire on your desktop
[10:55] <LoLLo> uhuh okz
[10:55] <SIN_AS> where is super? :-D\
[10:55] <popey> SIN_AS: windows key?
[10:55] <LoLLo> win button
[10:55] <Survivorman> super = windows key
[10:55] <hischild> SIN_AS, hold super (windows logo key thingy) and shift and pain fire with ur left mouse
[10:55] <SIN_AS> but not working...
[10:55] <P2502> does with mean windows is super?
[10:55] <LoLLo> lol
[10:55] <hischild> SIN_AS, enable it first :-)
[10:56] <gaynor> Hi Folks. Can anyone tell me pleaase how to change the text size in menus etc in Xubuntu?
[10:56] <Survivorman> yes, its not enabled by default
[10:56] <gaynor> THe help file is no use as it is too small for me to read
[10:56] <ThreeFingerPete> help! i need to reinstall linux-image-2.6.22-14-386, but i get the message to install the meta-package instead. how do i do this?
[10:57] <popey> ThreeFingerPete: sudo apt-get install linux-image-386 --reinstall
[10:57] <ThreeFingerPete> popey: Thanks!
[10:58] <ThreeFingerPete> popey: it says its unconfigured now. how do i do that?
[10:58] <archman> hi guys, is there any app that is used to burn your ubuntu configuration on a live/install dvd ? Or just install dvd? So i have all configuration and programs automatically when i install ubuntu?
[10:59] <LoLLo> what is the folder RECYCLE.BIN ?  can i remove it ? ? ? ?
[10:59] <ThreeFingerPete> LoLLo: no, its the garbage can
[11:00] <neeto> can someone link me to a list of all the default US xmodmap key mappings?
[11:00] <SIN_AS> hold super (windows logo key thingy) and shift and pain fire with ur left mouse not wok
[11:00] <SIN_AS> :(
[11:00] <hischild> SIN_AS, did you enable it?
[11:00] <archman> SIN_AS: enable it in ccsm
[11:00] <hischild> SIN_AS, and do the other effects work for you?
[11:00] <legend2440> archman http://www.remastersys.klikit.org/
[11:00] <archman> legend2440: thx
[11:01] <legend2440> yw
[11:01] <SIN_AS> hischild, yes,work
[11:01] <LoLLo> garbage out:  used to say that if the data (=information)  you put into a computer is bad, the results you get back will be bad, even if the computer program you use works properly// ...... right Three ? ? ?
[11:01] <popey> LoLLo: GIGO - Garbage In, Garbage Out
[11:01] <BhaalWK> popey: so the package lists are updated live? Sorry for the persistence, I just wish to confirm this, if so, can you tell me which repo will have the most up to date package lists?
[11:02] <LoLLo> however its necessary for the system ;)
[11:02] <hischild> SIN_AS, are you dragging with your left mouse button?
[11:02] <popey> BhaalWK: they all do
[11:02] <SIN_AS> hischild, can you white me in private chat?
[11:02] <popey> BhaalWK: they are updated as and when packages are updated
[11:02] <hischild> SIN_AS, WHILE you hold down super+shift
[11:02] <GINZ> HI Can anyone please tell me how to change the test size in the main parts of the screen... Menus etc?
[11:02] <hischild> SIN_AS, if you have registered you can pm me yes
[11:02] <BhaalWK> popey: Accept for the non-offical mirrors yes?
[11:03] <popey> BhaalWK: what doyou mean? non-official mirrors?
[11:03] <hischild> !register | SIN_AS
[11:03] <ubotu> SIN_AS: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[11:03] <SIN_AS> hischild, i pm you now
[11:03] <BhaalWK> popey: Apparently nothing, my ISPs mirror is listed in the downloads section, I didnt think it would be
[11:03] <LoLLo> how can I apply the same settings for ALL the windows that i open ? ( specially the positione and do not show hidden files ? )
[11:04] <SIN_AS> :(
[11:04] <juzzzzzy> Hi guys, have installed a new drive, but now comes the task of formatting it, how do i make my new drive a single partition, gparted won't find anything, fdisk -l shows both drives sda1, sdb1 ..
[11:04] <hischild> SIN_AS, have you registered?
[11:04] <AlexStacey> I'm trying to install a graphics driver from the "add/remove" menu and it's telling me that it conflicts and i need to switch to advanced mode. Any ideas how i do that?
[11:04] <BhaalWK> popey: Im just trying to resolve some conflict with installing compiz
[11:04] <SIN_AS> hischild, no :(
[11:04] <hischild> juzzzzzy, install qtparted which'll make life easier for you
[11:04] <juzzzzzy> thanks hischild
[11:04] <GINZ> HEllo? Did anyone see my question please
[11:04] <hischild> SIN_AS, then look a littl ebit up to what ubotu said with yur nick.
[11:05] <hischild> !anyone | ginz
[11:05] <ubotu> ginz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:06] <SIN_AS> hischild, can you white me pm?
[11:06] <juice_> how do i get rid of the bottom taskbar?
[11:06] <SIN_AS> whrite*
[11:06] <hischild> SIN_AS, i can pm you yes. But you cannot pm me back unless you have registered. And either way, i prefer to keep things on the channel
[11:07] <SIN_AS> :/
[11:07] <gaynor> ubotu, Thanks for seeing me. I want to change the text size of the main parts of the screen, menues etc  Can you tell me how to di thatPlease?
[11:07] <LoLLo> is there a way to recatch the files removed from the trash ?
[11:07] <hischild> gaynor, ubotu is a uBOTu, thus he responds only to specific commands
[11:08] <SIN_AS> hischild, how i can enable this think Hold Super + Shift and with your mouse paint fire on your desktop
[11:08] <booster_> hey can anyone in here tell me some of the commands for netstat....i am a new linux user and i realy want to learn
[11:08] <word> !me
[11:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:08] <juice_> anyone know how to get rid of that pesky taskbar at the bottom?
[11:08] <hischild> SIN_AS, you have to click and drag with your mouse button to paint on your screen once you have enabled it
[11:08] <word> booster_, netstat -a also man netstat
[11:09] <juice_> nvm
[11:09] <LoLLo> is there a way to recatch the files removed from the trash ?
[11:09] <SIN_AS> hischild, but don't work for me...
[11:09] <gaynor> OK Hischild, can you answer my question then please?
[11:09] <simplexio> gaynor: system-preferences-appearance
[11:10] <hischild> gaynor, if you change your resolution it will change the font size.
[11:10] <hischild> SIN_AS, go into console and type glxgears. Does that show up for you?
[11:10] <gaynor> Do I have to reboot for resolution changes to work?
[11:10] <juzzzzzy> gaynor: no
[11:10] <gaynor> I changed them but nothing happened
[11:10] <juzzzzzy> resolution can be changed on the fly
[11:10] <juzzzzzy> did you hit apply?
[11:10] <gaynor> I thinkn so
[11:10] <SIN_AS> hischild, yes,work
[11:11] <LoLLo> how can I apply the same settings for ALL the windows that i open ? ( specially the positione and do not show hidden files ? )
[11:11] <gaynor> And the preferences/appearance only changeds the text size of our messages
[11:11] <schwadri> hi there. what binary object format have ubuntu executables? ELF?
[11:12] <hischild> SIN_AS, and the other effects work? you have for example your cube?
[11:12] <thoreauputic> schwadri: mostly yes
[11:12] <hischild> SIN_AS, hit windows e. What happens?
[11:12] <BhaalWK> popey: Thanks for your time
[11:12] <SIN_AS> hischild, my cube works perfect
[11:13] <thoreauputic> schwadri: run "file /path/to/executable" to see
[11:13] <schwadri> thx
[11:13] <legend2440> Lollo: open Nautilus(file browser) go to edit>preferences>views and uncheck show hidden and backup files
[11:14] <SIN_AS> hischild, but i want fire skils or somethink like that
[11:14] <schwadri> is there a place where i can find a list of different object file formats for ubuntu?
[11:14] <gaynor> The screen resolution showed me a good size text and asked if I wanted to keep the changes and I clicked for it to keep but it didn;t
[11:15] <hischild> SIN_AS, i need to know what does and what does not work. In order for me to find that out, i need you to do a few things. Hitting that key combination is one of them, as it tells me whether it is installed like it should
[11:15] <ThreeFingerPete> I get this error.. how do i configure it? google isnt helping me "Package linux-image-386 is not configured yet."
[11:16] <thoreauputic> ThreeFingerPete: try running  " sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:17] <ThreeFingerPete> thoreauputic: i get the same error from that
[11:17] <Ziroda1> ThreeFingerPete: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:17] <brambo> anyone know how to get the get called Rigs of Rods working in Ubuntu, i tryed with Wine but that dont work there is a linux version i cant get to work
[11:17] <brambo> game*
[11:18] <thoreauputic> ThreeFingerPete: check   dpkg -l linux* and see if you actually have a 386 linux kernel in there :)
[11:18] <SIN_AS> hischild, i did like that http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[11:18] <pajamian> brambo: where is the website for it?
[11:18] <brambo> pajamian: there is 2 one sec ill get it
[11:18] <SIN_AS> hischild, and only cube works perfect
[11:19] <ThreeFingerPete> thoreauputic: i seem to have it. i cannot even install a 686. its dependancy errors for every kernel
[11:19] <brambo> pajamian: http://repository.rigsofrods.com/
[11:20] <pajamian> brambo: I'll have a quick look, one min.
[11:20] <hischild> SIN_AS, compiz is installed by default on ubuntu. The only things required to get it to work is the restricted driver.
[11:20] <legend2440> brambo:http://wiki.rigsofrods.com/index.php?title=Installation_Guide#Ubuntu.2FDebian
[11:20] <Joelio> I'm having trouble getting vmware player working in Heron amd64... I think the vmware player install needs patching as it's erroring when trying to create the modules.. anyone have a fix?
[11:20] <LoLLo> i've a .rpm file ( installation of acrobat reader ) .... i've noticed that if i keep the folder inside the file and go to the .bin file, the program runs !!!! i mustn't follow a procedure for the installation  ? ? ? ?
[11:20] <gaynor> THe display settings keep reverting to the Default settings
[11:20] <gaynor> and that is NOT what I want
[11:20] <smaila> how can i see whitch packets that are awailibel from xterm "apt-get" ?
[11:20] <Ziroda1> Joelio: 8.10 in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:20] <SIN_AS> hischild, wobbly plubin works perfect,and cube
[11:20] <thoreauputic> ThreeFingerPete: did you try  sudo dpkg --configure -a  as Ziroda1 suggested ?
[11:21] <SIN_AS> hischild, what shall i do?
[11:21] <ThreeFingerPete> thoreauputic: i tried that yes. it gives me the all pervasive error about dependancies
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Ziroda1: 8.04 actually :)
[11:21] <pajamian> brambo: did you try the directions here: http://wiki.rigsofrods.com/index.php?title=Installation_Guide#Ubuntu.2FDebian
[11:21] <Ziroda1> thoreauputic: jumping ahead of myself again :)
[11:21] <hischild> SIN_AS, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:21] <Nitroray> Guys: I have this problem; When I press the [X] Somewhere, like in Pidgin, it should minimalise to the Panel, but it doesn't, it closes my Pidgin :( Or Evolution Mail.... What to do know? Somebody know the answer??
[11:21] <SIN_AS> hischild, 7.04
[11:21] <thoreauputic> ThreeFingerPete: try   sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-386
[11:22] <brambo> pajamian: im reading through that now
[11:22] <pajamian> brambo: ok, brb.
[11:22] <thoreauputic> ThreeFingerPete: is your /etc/apt/sources.list correct?
[11:22] <LoLLo> i've a .rpm file ( installation of acrobat reader ) .... i've noticed that if i keep the folder inside the file and go to the .bin file, the program runs !!!! i mustn't follow a procedure for the installation  ? ? ? ?
[11:22] <ThreeFingerPete> thoreauputic: i appreciate all the effort you are applying to my hard head. i will try that too
[11:22] <brambo> pajamian: sorry i dont type so well sometimes
[11:22] <Ziroda1> ThreeFingerPete: that bigger issue is probably caused by a failed installation or upgrade, can you actually get to the gnome desktop?
[11:22] <hischild> SIN_AS, and the reason why you're not using 7,10 is ...
[11:23] <ThreeFingerPete> Ziroda1: I am at the desktop, yes. and yes, i realized i had a problem when i was offered a partial update only.
[11:23] <ganu>  sudo for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 S ; do ln -s /etc/rc$i.d /etc/rc.d/rc$i.d ; done is there anything wrong in this command?
[11:23] <Nitroray> Guys: I have this problem; When I press the [X] Somewhere, like in Pidgin, it should minimalise to the Panel, but it doesn't, it closes my Pidgin :( Or Evolution Mail.... What to do now? Somebody know the answer??
[11:23] <SIN_AS> hischild, most important reason is drivers radeon 9550 video card
[11:24] <brambo> pajamian: private message me when you return i might not catch what u say here as im trying to read that link
[11:24] <Juzzzzy> hischild: I'm baaack, success in creating partition/mounting but i'm stuck in fstab with mounting it, i've got /dev/sdb1 /video ext3 defaults 0 ... is this correct?
[11:24] <SIN_AS> hischild, there are drivers only 7.04 version
[11:25] <hischild> SIN_AS, as far as i know drivers are not restricted to a specific version. The only thing i can think of is that compiz refuses to show it because your graphics card cannot handle it.
[11:25] <brambo> forgive a ubuntu noob but how do i bring up my soures list i foret the code for terminal to do it?
[11:25] <hischild> Juzzzzy, at first sight that seems correct
[11:25] <Juzzzzy> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:25] <Juzzzzy> hischild: it mounts but i cannot write to it
[11:26] <Juzzzzy> no permissions
[11:26] <hischild> Juzzzzy, then you'll have to add the rw options to it
[11:26] <unamed> hello friends
[11:26] <ganu> sudo for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 S ; do ln -s /etc/rc$i.d /etc/rc.d/rc$i.d ; done                           is there anything wrong in this command?
[11:26] <unamed> how are you all?
[11:26] <unamed> i'm on the moon
[11:26] <Werdna> ganu: maybe you need sudo ln -s instead of sudo for the whole blob
[11:26] <Ziroda1> unamed: #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is a support channel
[11:27] <unamed> Ziroda1, you right, sorry
[11:27] <soulburner_> anyone have an input on amd quad core phenom's?
[11:27] <ganu> Werdna: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[11:27] <ganu>  Werdna:i got d above error
[11:27] <brambo> Juzzzzy: there was a different code i typed where it brought up the sources list in like a notepad,  u know it?
[11:28] <ThreeFingerPete> Ziroda1: whats my best course of action?
[11:28] <Werdna> ganu: I mean for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 S ; do sudo ln -s /etc/rc$i.d /etc/rc.d/rc$i.d ; done
[11:28] <Nitroray> Guys How can I use .EXE files?
[11:28] <Juzzzzy> brambo: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <brambo> Nitroray: through Wine
[11:28] <Nitroray> Thanks Brambo!
[11:28] <brambo> Juzzzzy: ty
[11:28] <legend2440> brambo sudo gedit /etc/apt/sourcres.list
[11:28] <Juzzzzy> np
[11:28] <word> sudo
[11:28] <LoLLo> guys i'm not able to install an rpm file of acrobat reader SIGH
[11:28] <Ziroda1> ThreeFingerPete: unfortunatly the only way I can think of (and mainly use) is a reinstall, or you can try the repair option on the ubuntu disk
[11:28] <Nitroray> now this error: When I press the [X] Somewhere, like in Pidgin, it should minimalise to the Panel, but it doesn't, it closes my Pidgin :( Or Evolution Mail.... What to do now? Somebody know the answer??
[11:29] <ganu> Werdna: ya... it worked.. thanx..
[11:29] <Ziroda1> LoLLo: you can install .rpm files with alien
[11:29] <legend2440> Lollo: ubuntu uses .deb packages not rpm
[11:29] <ThreeFingerPete> Ziroda1: I'll try that. i was frightened to even reboot. thanks to you and everyone. hope to be back!
[11:29] <LoLLo> what is alien ?
[11:29] <Ziroda1> ThreeFingerPete: good luck
[11:30] <LoLLo> ok so i must find a .deb file for the installation !
[11:30] <richard> Any1 to help me?
[11:30] <brambo> what u need richard?
[11:30] <Ziroda1> LoLLo: why do you want to install acrobat reader?
[11:30] <Johnny_5> anyone seen the new 8.04 Hardy Heron?
[11:31] <LoLLo> hmmm 'cause the documents viewer has some problem with the printing ...
[11:31] <Juzzzzy> Johnny_5: what about it?
[11:31] <Johnny_5> i have a copy of it and played with it a little bit
[11:31] <Juzzzzy> anyone can get a copy
[11:31] <Johnny_5> true
[11:31] <Juzzzzy> just gotta know what to put in your sources.list ;)
[11:31] <Johnny_5> its pretty nice and once they get the bugs worked out...
[11:32] <Juzzzzy> oh yeah
[11:32] <LoLLo> f off i don't install it :P
[11:32] <pajamian> brambo: I'm back, how is it coming?
[11:32] <richard> brambo, im newbie on ubuntu, when i type smthing on the terminal it says password for richard, then i cant type anything, just the enter key, the rest of keys wont type anything
[11:32] <Ziroda1> LoLLo: you can install it through the medibuntu repos http://www.medibuntu.org/
[11:32] <Johnny_5> i ain't that brave
[11:32] <Juzzzzy> richard: when typing a password it will not show any characters
[11:32] <hischild> Johnny_5, yes i'm running it now
[11:32] <Johnny_5> just used the live cd
[11:32] <hischild> Juzzzzy, that is normal
[11:32] <Johnny_5> cool
[11:32] <brambo> richard: when you type your password is is inputing it you just type it and press enter
[11:32] <Juzzzzy> hischild: just telling richard
[11:32] <thoreauputic> richard: stops shoulder surfing :)
[11:33] <iositd_>         Identifier      "Synaptics Touchpad"
[11:33] <iositd_>         Driver          "synaptics"
[11:33] <iositd_>         Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
[11:33] <iositd_>         Option          "Device"        "/dev/psaux"
[11:33] <iositd_>         Option          "Protocol"      "auto-dev"
[11:33] <iositd_>         Option          "HorizEdgeScroll"       "0"
[11:33] <FloodBot2> iositd_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <Juzzzzy> lol
[11:33] <Juzzzzy> was waiting for that
[11:33] <thoreauputic> the flood  bot is cool :)
[11:33] <brambo> pajamian: im chaning my sources list
[11:33] <Johnny_5> i still like gutsy, though
[11:33] <pajamian> brambo: ok
[11:33] <Nitroray> Who told me about Wine? Well I did what they said on here: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb, all in Terminal, where to find Wine now ?
[11:33] <hischild> oh yeah very cool :-)
[11:33] <LoLLo> uhm okz thx .... can u suggest me a good cleaner ( of the useless folder etc ) file ?
[11:33] <Ntafoulis> hello. can i make some questions?
[11:34] <hischild> !ask Ntafoulis
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask ntafoulis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <Juzzzzy> Nitroray: in terminal type sudo apt-get install wine
[11:34] <richard> juzzzzy , thanks
[11:34] <legend2440> Lollo: www.getautomatix.com Install automatix and it will install Acrobat Reader
[11:34] <hischild> !anyone | Ntafoulis
[11:34] <ubotu> Ntafoulis: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:34] <Juzzzzy> no worries richard
[11:34] <Ntafoulis> !dual monitor on ubuntu
[11:34] <hischild> legend2440, NO
[11:34] <hischild> !automatix
[11:34] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[11:34] <Nitroray> !widescreen
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <Nitroray> :|
[11:35] <legend2440> ok, but i've used it with no problems
[11:35] <hischild> Nitroray, what's up with widescreen?
[11:35] <Juzzzzy> he wants dual monitors :P
[11:35] <hischild> legend2440, it installs software and drivers in ways that can severely break your system
[11:35] <reikalusikka> How do I see if I use KDE?
[11:35] <pajamian> brambo: a command like this should suffice: sudo echo "deb http://apt.rigsofrods.com/ /" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:35] <hischild> ooh
[11:35] <Ntafoulis> It didnt give me an answer:P  anyone knows if i can extend my monitor or just clone it with a tv using ubuntu?
[11:35] <legend2440> !automatix
[11:35] <hischild> !dualhead | Nitroray
[11:35] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[11:35] <ubotu> Nitroray: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:35] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[11:35] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[11:35] <hischild> there you go :-)
[11:35] <pauli> Hi, have a question about Ubuntu + Compiz, any have?
[11:35] <Nitroray> Well.. I got one, but i can't make it to Extra hischild
[11:35] <hischild> Nitroray, make it to extra?
[11:35] <Nitroray> Hischild, I ddi not do !dualhead, I did !widescreen
[11:35] <Nitroray> the graphics
[11:36] <hischild> Nitroray, i know, i did the !widescreen
[11:36] <LoLLo> legend it's suitable with .rpm only or other kind of files ? ( tar.bz etc ) ?
[11:36] <cdealer> hey ... where I can found gnome logs ? Im getting an AIF error at start, and the only options I have is exclude or not delete...  doesnt seens to be a critical problem ...
[11:36] <Nitroray> Yes, somebody said I wanted dualhead, I don's ;)
[11:36] <Nitroray> *don't
[11:36] <pauli> Have a Problem with Compiz Fusion and NVIDIA, have a drivers an all ok, but any time lost toolbox of all windows and need restart Gdm, any know this bug and solution?
[11:36] <brambo> pajamian: good cuz my sources list dont seem to come up, but now it does and its empty hm...
[11:36] <hischild> Nitroray, may i ask what you are looking for then?
[11:37] <Nitroray> Hischild - I can't set Graphics to Extra.
[11:37] <reikalusikka> How do I see if I use KDE?
[11:37] <pajamian> brambo: you did use >> and not >, right?
[11:37] <brambo> pajamian: forgive me could u type the sources code again?
[11:37] <LoLLo> uhm okz thx .... can u suggest me a good cleaner ( of the useless folder etc ) file ?
[11:37] <hischild> Nitroray, can you set them to custom? does it give you an error message? have you enabled restricted drivers?
[11:37] <pajamian> brambo: a command like this should suffice: sudo echo "deb http://apt.rigsofrods.com/ /" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:38] <Nitroray> Hischild - Im a n00by on ubunutu, born with Microsoft :'( What you mean Custom ?
[11:38] <Nitroray> *ubuntu
[11:38] <hischild> Nitroray, there usually also is an option custom where you can select the graphics options.
[11:39] <brambo> pajamian: the echo deb apt rigs of rods.com u sent dont seem to do anything
[11:39] <pajamian> brambo: it is just the first step
[11:39] <Juzzzzy> hischild: so what permissions do i need to set when mounting this ext3 partition?
[11:39] <Nitroray> Hischild - Brb sorry
[11:39] <pajamian> brambo: do: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure that line is at the end.
[11:39] <brambo> pajamian: would u mind typing that to me in private message? the chat goes so quick
[11:40] <hischild> Juzzzzy, if it doesn't moun it properly, set it with rw permissions (idk the exact command for that)
[11:40] <brambo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main   is at the end
[11:40] <pajamian> brambo: are you registered with nickserv?
[11:41] <pajamian> brambo: you can't pm in freenode unless you are registered.
[11:41] <brambo> pajamian: im not sure, probably not but i have used private messages before
[11:41] <hischild> brambo, have you used private messages on THIS server before?
[11:41] <brambo> yeah
[11:41] <gaynor> Hischild, I think this programme has the minuscule default text setting set in concrete and unable to be changeed
[11:41] <brambo> but i never registered..
[11:41] <brambo> how would that happen?
[11:41] <KbuntuStudio> :-D hello!!!
[11:41] <pajamian> brambo: it won't work unless you register.
[11:42] <brambo> how do i register?
[11:42] <pajamian> !register | brambo
[11:42] <ubotu> brambo: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[11:42] <Johnny_5> hello KbuntuStudio
[11:42] <brambo> just type and send,   !register |  here?
[11:42] <gaynor> I hate this programme before I even get used to it simply bescause I can;t read a damned thing in the screens and menues
[11:43] <pajamian> brambo: no, read the message that ubotu just gave you.
[11:43] <Keith3> damm
[11:43] <Keith_Mc-Kay> noone has that
[11:43] <Keith_Mc-Kay> hello
[11:43] <Ziroda1> Keith_Mc-Kay: hi
[11:43] <giggsey> I have two NIC's in my ubuntu box, one plugged into a 192.168.* subnet, the other into a 10.0.* subnet. I'm trying to redirect internet traffic from the 10.0.* subnet through the linux server into 192.168.*. There is a proxy server running on 192.168.0.1 which the gutsy box will need to browse via. Any good guides/software for this?
[11:44] <Keith_Mc-Kay> I love ubuntu, but i have one little question?
[11:44] <Johnny_5> hey Keith_Mc-Kay
[11:44] <LoLLo> where can i put some folders which are necessary for the running of some programs ( linke Lexmark, skype etc etc ) that currently i've in the desktop ... ? in /share ? ? ?
[11:44] <Nitroray> Hischild - Where to find the option Custom ?
[11:44] <Johnny_5> shoot
[11:45] <Keith_Mc-Kay> I rebooted today, and the system booted to the login, at least I have hear the login sound, but ive lost my screen
[11:45] <MoLE_> giggsey, you might be better off using a specialist distro for this, such as smoothwall or ipcop.
[11:45] <hischild> Nitroray, under the rest of the options under system --> preferences --> appearance
[11:45] <Keith_Mc-Kay> im using a laptop as i cheap way of running a server.
[11:45] <dooglus> Keith_Mc-Kay: did you forget to turn the monitor on?
[11:45] <Keith_Mc-Kay> Funny hear har. mate
[11:45] <Ziroda1> Keith_Mc-Kay: thats not good, is your monitor cables plugged in?
[11:45] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: did u mess with the screen resolutions any?
[11:45] <ultrav1olet> Is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu alpha version to a stable release?
[11:45] <Keith_Mc-Kay> the moniter is connected to the laptop, i dont want to use the laptop screen
[11:45] <KbuntuStudio> When ever I try to enable windows effects, I get a message that says: "The composite extension is not available"
[11:46] <giggsey> MoLE_: well, do you know of any software based systems? Because it also needs to run apache/mysql within the 10.* subnet
[11:46] <brambo> [Brambo] is already registered...gotta try another name i think
[11:46] <ultrav1olet> How many packages will be updated in this process?
[11:46] <pajamian> Keith_Mc-Kay: some laptops have a key combination that you press to toggle between the external monitor port and the built-in display.
[11:46] <brambo> if im not registered how did i private message before?
[11:46] <legend2440> is EasyUbuntu recommended? Safe to use? I understand Automatix is not recommended
[11:46] <hischild> brambo, you can probably still receive pm's
[11:46] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: does the picture still show up on the laptop screen?
[11:46] <Ziroda1> legend2440: what packages do you need from easyubuntu
[11:46] <Keith_Mc-Kay> before now i got low screen mode, 800-600
[11:46] <brambo> hischild: i sent and receieved ones
[11:46] <hischild> legend2440, any version of ubuntu is safe and easy to use.
[11:47] <Keith_Mc-Kay> i was able to up the res,
[11:47] <MoLE_> giggsey, maybe SME server is more what you want...
[11:47] <Nitroray> Hischild - under System --> Preferences --> Appearance Preferences --> Visual Effects --> Extra, it says: Desktop Effects Could Not Be Enabled !
[11:47] <KbuntuStudio> When ever I try to enable windows effects, I get a message that says: "The composite extension is not available"
[11:47] <Keith_Mc-Kay> i need to know how to get to get it all back
[11:47] <hischild> Nitroray, aaah now we get somewhere ... 1. did you enable restricted drivers? 2. do you have an ati card?
[11:47] <Keith_Mc-Kay> im running root mode, on startup
[11:47] <Nitroray> 1. No, not that I know, 2. There was a way to check this in Terminal, how ?
[11:47] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: so u don't see anything on either screen then??
[11:47] <Nitroray> Hischild ?
[11:48] <Keith_Mc-Kay> i havent started x yet
[11:48] <pajamian> Nitroray: lspci
[11:48] <Keith_Mc-Kay> nop. all blank
[11:48] <KbuntuStudio> When ever I try to enable windows effects, I get a message that says: "The composite extension is not available"
[11:48] <booster_> for ati and nvidia cards there is a package called envy...it has all those drivers for you to install
[11:48] <croppa> a friend has closed all the panels on his ubuntu desktop.....How do I get them back?
[11:48] <hischild> Nitroray, one thing at a time :-) system --> adminstration --> restricted drivers
[11:48] <Nitroray> Pajamian, there was a better way, like lspci Nvidia or something
[11:48] <Nitroray> ok hischild
[11:48] <hischild> !nvidia > hischild
[11:48] <Keith_Mc-Kay> when i reboot in safe mode, i get the shell start up, where i can login to shell
[11:48] <pajamian> Nitroray: not sure, I usually just use lspci.
[11:49] <pajamian> Nitroray: easy enough to find out, though
[11:49] <KbuntuStudio> When ever I try to enable windows effects, I get a message that says: "The composite extension is not available"
[11:49] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: so i take it ur in the comand line...next time sign in as ur user. 4 some reason root won't use the graphical
[11:49] <LoLLo> where can i put some folders which are necessary for the running of some programs ( linke Lexmark, skype etc etc ) that currently i've in the desktop ... ? in /share ? ? ?
[11:49] <hischild> pajamian, i wasn't going to make it overly complicated. When he tries to enable his drivers he should see wether he has an ati or nvidia card :-)
[11:49] <Nitroray> Hischild - They are all enabled
[11:49] <giggsey> MoLE_: is there a website I can visit for information about running this on a Ubuntu Server?
[11:49] <Nitroray> Hischild - 2 are not in use.
[11:50] <Keith_Mc-Kay> if i let it go into graphical then i cant see nothing
[11:50] <hischild> not in use?
[11:50] <Nitroray> Hischild - But enabled
[11:50] <KbuntuStudio> Hello?:-( I've been sitting here for 10 minutes......... When ever I try to enable windows effects, I get a message that says: "The composite extension is not available"
[11:50] <Johnny_5> ah...
[11:50] <ganu> whre can i get the complete guide to install oracle on ubuntu 7.10??which release of oracle suits ubuntu 7.10 best?
[11:50] <Nitroray> Hischild - Yes not in use (red icon ipo green) but enabled
[11:50] <Juzzzzy> KbuntuStudio: be patient, help is coming
[11:50] <KbuntuStudio> ok
[11:50] <MoLE_> giggsey, it's actually a completely different distro.  www.smeserver.org
[11:50] <Ziroda1> KbuntuStudio: do you haave the packages for compiz installed?
[11:50] <KbuntuStudio> yes
[11:51] <Juzzzzy> KbuntuStudio: there are only a few real ubuntu gurus in here and they're very busy ;)
[11:51] <hischild> Nitroray, okay. Now there probably is a line that says either ati or nvidia. Which one do you see?
[11:51] <tam> how can one check how much they are transferring out a virtual interface?
[11:51] <Nitroray> Hischild - NViDIA
[11:51] <KbuntuStudio> Ziroda1:Yes I did.
[11:51] <Ziroda1> KbuntuStudio: in a terminal can you type compiz --replace and tell me what happens please
[11:51] <hischild> KbuntuStudio, you're missing probably a package, and google helped me out on that one.
[11:51] <KbuntuStudio> ok
[11:51] <pajamian> Nitroray: there could be other nvidia components, what's the entire line (to make sure it's actually the graphics card).
[11:52] <Keith_Mc-Kay> ive rebooted my other box, the one with the problem, and ive loggod in before the session login
[11:52] <Keith_Mc-Kay> i tried startx in the shell, and it says there are no usable modes
[11:52] <KbuntuStudio> I got this: chris@ubuntustudiosystem:~$ compiz --replace
[11:52] <KbuntuStudio> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[11:52] <KbuntuStudio> No whitelisted driver found
[11:52] <KbuntuStudio> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[11:52] <hischild> pajamian, good point ... though i was going to assume it was his gfx otherwise he'd say more then just this line :-)
[11:52] <ganu> whre can i get the complete guide to install oracle on ubuntu 7.10??which release of oracle suits ubuntu 7.10 best?
[11:52] <Nitroray> Pajamian - NVIDIA Accelrated graphics driver (legacy card)
[11:53] <pajamian> Nitroray: that's the graphics card alright.
[11:53] <Nitroray> Pajamian - Its in Use and green icon'd
[11:53] <Ziroda1> KbuntuStudio: have you run the restriced drivers manager?
[11:53] <Nitroray> Pajamian - What to do now ?
[11:53] <KbuntuStudio> Ziroda1: How?
[11:53] <hischild> pajamian, if i'm correct he's missing xserver-xgl
[11:53] <ultrav1olet> Is it possible to upgrade the latest Ubuntu alpha version to a new stable release? How many packages will be updated in this process?
[11:53] <Ziroda1> KbuntuStudio: System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager
[11:53] <giggsey> MoLE_: well, I don't really want to reinstall the server. I'm looking for something software based.
[11:54] <pajamian> Nitroray: I'm not sure, I was just helping to id which card you have, I wasn't following the whole thing.
[11:54] <ricardoromao> Hello people, i have a problem with my ubuntu 7.10 on Asus motherboard. The ubuntu boots ok, but when I use a litle, they freeze and blinking the Caps Lock and Scrool Lock lights, someone knows what this mean ? TKS
[11:54] <KbuntuStudio> Zirdoa1: Yes I have
[11:54] <Nitroray> Pajamian - Still Thanks, now I need Hischild again :P
[11:54] <legend2440> KbuntuStudio: I had same problem. I had to add line to xorg.conf under Section "Extensions" that says Option	    "Composite" "Enable"
[11:54] <hischild> hehe :-) we all help together
[11:55] <KbuntuStudio> \ok
[11:55] <[CroX]> I have just installed Ubuntu on a laptop and now it doesn't show any network interfaces, so I can't connect anywhere, nor any gfx cards so I'm stuck at a 800x600 resolution. Could someone please help me figure this out?
[11:55] <Ziroda1> KbuntuStudio: try follow legend2440 advice, i also need your graphics card information and what version of ubuntu you are using
[11:55] <MoLE_> giggsey, in that case my best suggestion would be to look at debian admin guides.  There's a site for it, but I can't recall it off the top of my head.
[11:55] <hischild> Nitroray, if i'm correct in my thinking, you're missing a package called xserver-xgl. So go ahead, open up a console and type " sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl " hit enter and tell me if it installs it or if it says it already is installed
[11:55] <Ziroda1> [CroX]: try running the Restricted Drivers Manager
[11:55] <Keith_Mc-Kay> Johnny_5, you there buddy
[11:55] <[CroX]> Ziroda1: It's not in there either.
[11:56] <giggsey> Would something like squid do it?
[11:56] <KbuntuStudio> Zirdoa1: UbuntuStudio 7.10 Gusty Gibbon. Has a ATi Graphics Card.
[11:56] <Nitroray> Hischild - :D:D:D:D ITs installing and downloading :D:D:D
[11:56] <[CroX]> Ziroda1: Only Atheros HAL.
[11:56] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: yeah just tryin' 2 look something up
[11:56] <ulaas> hi!. how may i set rc.local run on boot by default on gutsy?
[11:56] <Keith_Mc-Kay> k
[11:56] <Ziroda1> [CroX]: does it say the card drivers have been installed?
[11:56] <Keith_Mc-Kay> im in maintenance mode
[11:56] <hischild> [CroX], do you happen to know if you have an atheros 5007 EG?
[11:56] <Nitroray> hischild - Its installed now, what to do noww ?
[11:56] <hischild> Nitroray, try it again :-)
[11:57] <hischild> Nitroray, the enabling of effects
[11:57] <Nitroray> hischild - It works like windows, I need to restart, or not?
[11:57] <Ziroda1> KbuntuStudio: what model?
[11:57] <hischild> Nitroray, nope, you don't have to restart
[11:57] <KbuntuStudio> umm........idk
[11:57] <Nitroray> Hischild - Is that normal in Ubuntu ?
[11:57] <hischild> Nitroray, not specific to ubuntu, more to unix in general.
[11:58] <[CroX]> hischild: No idea, it's a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo.
[11:58] <hischild> Nitroray, if you want, feel fre to reboot, I'll be here waiting :-)
[11:58] <KbuntuStudio> Zidora1: i dont know
[11:58] <pajamian> Nitroray: there are some things you need to restart for in ubuntu, but nowhere near as much as for windows.
[11:58] <[CroX]> hischild: Let me check..
[11:58] <Nitroray> HIschild - It aint working now, I reboot ?
[11:58] <Nitroray> Hischild - Im rebooting, brb
[11:58] <croppa> a friend has closed all the panels on his ubuntu desktop..so that he now cannt click to launch a program...How do I get them back?
[11:58] <Ziroda1> KbuntuStudio: type "lspci | grep Graphics"
[11:59] <LoLLo> where can i put some folders which are necessary for the running of some programs ( linke Lexmark, skype etc etc ) that currently i've in the desktop ... ? in /share ? ? ?
[11:59] <[CroX]> The wired network wont work either. I tried running defining eth0/1 in the interfaces file but it said "No such device".
[11:59] <tapas> ok
[11:59] <tapas> openoffice is totally not working here
[11:59] <MoLE_> giggsey, http://www.debian-administration.org/
[11:59] <Shrugz> is there a way i can view all packages i have installed on my harddrive via my terminal?
[11:59] <tapas> no suitable windowing system found, exiting.
[12:00] <tapas> web search gives no clue
[12:00] <legend2440> KbuntuStudio: after you add "Composite" "Enable" to xorg.conf you need to reboot
[12:00] <tapas> presentation in 1 hour
[12:00] <tapas> i'm screwed
[12:00] <Ziroda1> tapas: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[12:00] <tapas> gutsy
[12:00] <hischild> legend2440, only gdm ;-) ctrl alt backspace
[12:01] <Ziroda1> t?apas: with gnome and metacity or gnome and compiz?  if compiz is it using emerald?
[12:01] <tapas> no compiz
[12:01] <legend2440> <hischild: yes you are correct sir
[12:02] <hischild> legend2440, dont you sir me :p i aint that old yet
[12:02] <KbuntuStudio> legend2440: How do i add "Composite" "Enable" to xorg.conf
[12:02] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: try  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2006-November/000394.html
[12:02] <Keith_Mc-Kay> thankyou
[12:02] <Johnny_5> let me know how it goes
[12:02] <legend2440> hischild: couldn't remember the keystrokes to restart gdm lol
[12:03] <legend2440> i'm getting senile
[12:03] <hischild> legend2440, np :-) if you'd ask ubotu he'd say /etc/init.d/?dm restart :-)
[12:03] <Keith_Mc-Kay> ok, i need to pico the xorg.conf
[12:03] <Keith_Mc-Kay> not something ive done before :D
[12:03] <legend2440> ok thx
[12:03] <Shrugz> argg closed the channel by mistake but as i was asking is there a program or a commandline i can use to view all the installed packages on my system?
[12:03] <KbuntuStudio> legend2440: How do i add "Composite" "Enable" to xorg.conf
[12:04] <hischild> Shrugz, you can use synaptic?
[12:04] <Shrugz> hischild i was unaware synaptic let you view the installed packages
[12:04] <legend2440> KbuntuStudio sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg/xorg.conf
[12:04] <hischild> Shrugz, it does, they have the little filled square in front o fit
[12:04] <KbuntuStudio> :ok
[12:05] <[CroX]> hischild: SiS196, does that tell you anything? It's listed together with the info about the network card.
[12:05] <Shrugz> hischild i mean a program that can let me view all installed packages at once
[12:05] <KbuntuStudio> Legend2440: Now what?
[12:06] <hischild> [CroX], not really :(
[12:06] <hischild> hmm ... JW at my door ... back in a few hours
[12:06] <hischild> :P
[12:06] <legend2440> KbuntuStudio: section may be already in xorg.conf and you just need to change "Disable" to "Enable"
[12:06] <KbuntuStudio> nothing is in the file
[12:06] <reikalusikka> how do I load kde?
[12:06] <giggsey> Would it be possible to use squid proxy + iptables MoLE_? I need to make sure that the 192.168. subnet can't see anything within 10.*
[12:07] <Keith_Mc-Kay> Johnny_5, I not sure what I should be changing here.
[12:07] <tapas> i guess java is broken
[12:07] <Keith_Mc-Kay> plug and play, and failsafe moniter
[12:07] <Keith_Mc-Kay> im on that section
[12:07] <legend2440> KbuntuStudio: you have nothing in your xorg.conf file???
[12:08] <MoLE_> giggsey, you probably wouldn't even need to use squid. but you could certainly achieve this with some iptables magic.  Not sure about an easy GUI for this though..
[12:08] <KbuntuStudio> legend2440: Nothing is in the file/
[12:08] <giggsey> MoLE_: Could I do it via webmin?
[12:09] <LoLLo> can i create a link of the file system in the desktop ? ? ?
[12:09] <MoLE_> giggsey, is it a headless server??
[12:10] <giggsey> MoLE_: headless as in no monitor/keyboard/mouse/gui, yup
[12:10] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: r u still @ 800-600?
[12:10] <Keith_Mc-Kay> no idea
[12:11] <giggsey> Actually, iptables should be fine in theory. Just redirect all 10.* traffic on port 8080 to 192.168.0.1:8080 and then block everything else going to 192.*
[12:11] <Keith_Mc-Kay> im on the laptop screen in a shell looking in etc//x11/
[12:12] <Keith_Mc-Kay> if i deleted what was there, would the system go back to dufaults
[12:13] <MoLE_> giggsey, I've no experience with webmin, but I've heard it's extremely powerful and flexible - it may do the job.
[12:14] <Keith_Mc-Kay> rebooted, i can see nothing on screen, moniter is pluged back in
[12:14] <giggsey> Okay, thanks MoLE_, I shall spend my afternoon looking into it
[12:14] <Keith_Mc-Kay> waiting and listening
[12:15] <Nitroray> Who was helping me again ?
[12:15] <Nitroray> with the graphics ?
[12:16] <hischild> [CroX], alright you still having bad luck with your lan?
[12:16] <hischild> (or wlan?)
[12:16] <Nitroray> HIschild :D
[12:16] <Nitroray> Hischild - It worked, a little
[12:16] <[CroX]> hischild: Yeah, I'm afraid so. :/
[12:16] <hischild> Nitroray, define a little
[12:16] <hischild> [CroX], hmm ... it has integrated wlan?
[12:16] <[CroX]> hischild: I thought I'd download Hardy and try upgrading with a CD, because someone said the network chip of my laptop isn't very compatible with 7.10.
[12:16] <fastfinger> Hmm, my screen flickers at boot up, like when the cable is disconnected in a television, any idea? works fine when booding through live cd/windows
[12:17] <[CroX]> hischild: Yes.
[12:17] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: i just sent u a pm
[12:17] <Nitroray> Hischild - I'm loosing my mouse sometimes, and the screen echo's on some places, so when I close some app, it will still keep a little bit of it, while its gone, understand me ?
[12:17] <Nitroray> HIschild - I lost my mouse again :(
[12:17] <hischild> Nitroray, yes i do. I've seen the same thing before.
[12:18] <hischild> Nitroray, you can try to ctrl alt f2 to go to a differnet terminal, and type "compiz --replace"
[12:18] <Nitroray> Hischild - Well. even on none graphics it keeps doing it.. Is it about the package I installed?
[12:18] <Nitroray> Hischild - Okaay
[12:18] <hischild> Nitroray, it's compiz who is sometimes slightly bugged
[12:18] <fastfinger> Also, I get a booting local script or something , says that about 3 times, screen flashes and says that, then when I am supposed to get a login screen I get that flickring thingy
[12:18] <simplexio> Nitroray: do you have wireless mouse ?
[12:18] <Nitroray> Hischild - ill do it, but I like the giggly windows, and all the zooming and the pan.
[12:19] <hischild> Nitroray, you'll keep those. The only thing compiz --replace does, is reload compiz again.
[12:19] <hischild> Nitroray, after you've typed that hit ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to here
[12:19] <Nitroray> Hischild - No the Icon is loosing, not the mouse, when I move the mouse, sometimes I see him
[12:19] <Nitroray> Hischild - I have a wired mouse
[12:19] <hischild> simplexio, he has a wired mouse (wrong nick)
[12:19] <fastfinger> I think a problem with xorg maybe? i have no idea what to do at all
[12:20] <Keith_Mc-Kay> I got low grapics mode back, im ok, least i can see the screen
[12:20] <Johnny_5> awesome
[12:20] <simplexio> Nitroray: check batteries. only time when i have  lose mouse is when batteries are allmoust out
[12:20] <Keith_Mc-Kay> 800x600 is all i can get..
[12:20] <hischild> simplexio, wired mouse != batteries?
[12:20] <Keith_Mc-Kay> i would have liked it to use a higher res
[12:20] <Johnny_5> it won't let u??
[12:21] <Keith_Mc-Kay> but ifs its going to create issues
[12:21] <Keith_Mc-Kay> well the moniter comes up unkown
[12:21] <Keith_Mc-Kay> its an LC22SFD
[12:21] <Johnny_5> do u use gnome?
[12:21] <simplexio> hischild: well, low on power
[12:21] <Keith_Mc-Kay> so if I leave it on generic
[12:21] <Keith_Mc-Kay> year I use gnome
[12:22] <Nitroray> Hischild? My mouse has still gone...
[12:22] <danand> fastfinger - that sounds to me like your monitor is being made to flicker etc by switching between resolutions etc at various stages of the boot process ....
[12:22] <Nitroray> Hischild - Reboot ?
[12:22] <ThreeFingerPete> i return! seemingly triumphant! thanks to all that helped! the two i can remember dont seem to be here, but let me tell you; you are all a great bunch of people!
[12:22] <dm_> hello every one, i am asking about the best brand of laptops that work perfectly with linux , espcailly Ubuntu 7.1
[12:22] <hischild> Nitroray, can do, but probably won't do much good
[12:22] <Nitroray> Hischild - What to do else ?
[12:22] <hischild> Nitroray, i'm thinking
[12:23] <Nitroray> Hischild - When I reboot, I will be able to get back here? I'll wait for what you think, Sorry for my bad english :$
[12:23] <hadi> hiii
[12:23] <Keith_Mc-Kay> its working now through the moniter not the laptop, thats what i want..
[12:24] <Keith_Mc-Kay> but its only 800x600
[12:24] <hischild> Nitroray, no problem, you're trying which is much more appreciated then trying to force answers
[12:24] <Keith_Mc-Kay> i can live with that. its setup for running servers.
[12:24] <Nitroray> Hischild - Above this chat it says: Be patient ;)
[12:24] <dm_> can any one answer me about the best brand of laptops  what work well with linux
[12:24] <Nitroray> dm_ ask the seller ??
[12:24] <hischild> Nitroray, yes it does. Most are unable to read that for some reason ;-)
[12:25] <Nitroray> like dm_ :P
[12:25] <ThreeFingerPete> dm_: i havent had any luck with acer
[12:25] <hischild> ThreeFingerPete, that isn't entirely true ... i'm running an acer 5520 fine now :-)
[12:25] <Johnny_5> i use enlightenment and don't have my other comp with me so bear with me...
[12:26] <ThreeFingerPete> hischild: really! i cannot get it to install. partition problems
[12:26] <dm_> and if i am living in a place where the sellers don't know what linux is !!
[12:26] <hischild> ThreeFingerPete, yeah ... it took a bit of trouble and custom compiling to get it all working, but it works flawlessly now
[12:26] <Nitroray> dm_ Erm.. ask them if they are dumb ?
[12:26] <danand> dm_ - check out dells new stuff - goto www.ubuntu.com - there is a link and some info on screen. Also check out www.linux-laptop.net
[12:27] <gpellis64> dm_: i think dell do a laptop with ubuntu installed
[12:27] <dm_> what i can do then other than asking people who use laptops and find the best one
[12:27] <ThreeFingerPete> hischild: i am tempted to pull the hdd and install on it. the machine has heat issues; which is why i retired it from xp duties
[12:27] <Nitroray> dm_: you can ask www.Google.com ??
[12:27] <pajamian> dm_: a good idea is to order a dell laptop with ubuntu pre-installed.
[12:27] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: go to the folder after places (not applications) the name of which escapes me, go to the one on the top and scroll down the list u should see a selection the says screen resolution...click on that and u should be able to chang it from there. its safe...it'll try it out 4 u and ask if u want to keep it or go back to the last one
[12:28] <hischild> ThreeFingerPete, you probably already know that ubuntu is amazingly cool in cpu temp etc right? :P
[12:28] <dm_> yes, i googeled this topic and found that Dell is the best for me until now
[12:28] <ThreeFingerPete> hischild: my brother is getting a laptop of some sort tomorrow. if its an acer, any suggestions? he wants some 'buntu on it
[12:28] <dm_> but , the question is , does the hardware from Dell is better or that from Ibm or toshiba ,
[12:28] <ThreeFingerPete> hischild: it sure is cooler.
[12:29] <hischild> ThreeFingerPete, i think we can get it to work, if need be with some help from from folks around here
[12:29] <pajamian> dm_: dell isn't great hardware but they do sell with ubuntu pre-installed.
[12:29] <Nitroray> dm_: I preffer Toshiba, because they have the best cooling..
[12:29] <hischild> but no ... not a specific version i can recommend. I got a 5520 :-)
[12:29] <ThreeFingerPete> hischild: i am sure we can. folks around here are great!
[12:29] <hischild> ThreeFingerPete, we spend 10 hours getting my main box working :p
[12:29] <pajamian> dm_: I've also heard that toshiba makes the best laptops.
[12:30] <ThreeFingerPete> i'd like to try a ubuntu tablet
[12:30] <Nitroray> Hischild - Shall I try to reboot ?
[12:30] <hischild> Nitroray, if you want to reboot, you're always free to do so. I'm not moving any time soon (other then to grab food)
[12:30] <dm_> the question is, does toshiba laptops compatible , i mean most of the hardware, with ubuntu
[12:30] <Nitroray> Hischild - Okaaay
[12:31] <Tex-Twil> good afternoon
[12:31] <Nitroray> Hischild - Else I get back here for more help ? :$
[12:31] <pajamian> Ubuntu will go on just about anything, though.  I managed to install it on a macbook the other day, after I worked out that it doesn't like to have a seperate /boot partition.
[12:31] <Nitroray> good morning Tex-Twil
[12:31] <hischild> Nitroray, it's a support channel for a reason :-) when i'm not around, others are :-)
[12:31] <LemonNotGeoff> What is the hosts file variant for unbuntu?
[12:31] <hischild> Nitroray, besides, i've gota a lot to learn
[12:31] <Nitroray> Hischild - That's for sure :D
[12:31] <hischild> LemonNotGeoff, /etc/hosts
[12:31] <LemonNotGeoff> ok thx
[12:31] <Tex-Twil> How can I list the content of a .deb file ?
[12:32] <Da_Putzler> If I replace Nautilus with PcManFM, will it still load Nautilus in the background ???
[12:32] <Nitroray> Hischild - Well Ubuntu is my hobby. But my mums sais Windows works better, because its infiltret wit​h the whole internet, pages like hyves.nl :( they discriminate Unix and Linux :@
[12:32] <danand> dm_ - best advice is to go into the shop with the live cd - pop it in, reboot, and see if ubuntu runs. if the seller is serious about helping a prospective buyer they will let you try it.
[12:33] <fastfinger> Hmm, I don't remember messing with my visuals, but any way to restore it to the way it was working?
[12:33] <pajamian> Tex-Twil: dpkg -c filename
[12:33] <Johnny_5> Keith_Mc-Kay: i hope i was @ least a little bit helpful...
[12:33] <Tex-Twil> Thanks pajamian
[12:33] <hischild> Nitroray, it's also my hobby. I'm goin to try the impossible somewhere later today (which is switching back to 7,10 ... yet keeping my current hardy install)
[12:33] <hischild> Nitroray, also, you can learn a lot faster by just diving into it :_)
[12:33] <hischild> :-)
[12:34] <LoLLo> can i create a link of the file system in the desktop ? ? ?
[12:34] <dm_> thanks danand
[12:34] <Da_Putzler> can I safely remove nautilus and stop it loading in the backround if I switch to PcMANfm
[12:34] <pajamian> LoLLo: can you elaborate, I'm not sure what you mean.
[12:35] <Keith_Mc-Kay> Johnny_5, thankyou mate, you got my screen back
[12:35] <dm_>  i think that this is what i will do, with whatever laptop i will buy either IBM , toshiba or dell
[12:35] <hischild> Da_Putzler, unrecommended since it's depended on by quite some programs as far as i know, but if you can tell them to use pcmanfm then in theory you could
[12:35] <dann> is there a recovery option on ubuntu? I think I removed 1 to many packages :D
[12:35] <brambo> pajamian: i can't seem to get back on my registered nick
[12:35] <danand> dm_ - np  - also check out that link i gave you earlier www.linux-laptop.net
[12:35] <Da_Putzler> thx hischild
[12:35] <Johnny_5> np
[12:35] <hischild> dann, what package did you remove?
[12:35] <Keith_Mc-Kay> now i know what all that does, im trying out other modes in failsafe
[12:35] <LoLLo> i need to go to the / folder from an icon of the desktop
[12:35] <pajamian> brambo: ok, did you paste what I asked into the pastebin?
[12:35] <dann> I removed gstreamer because it didnt play my vid files
[12:35] <Johnny_5> cool
[12:35] <brambo> yeah 1 sec
[12:35] <ThreeFingerPete> Nitroray: learn fastest by breaking things
[12:36] <Da_Putzler> vlc always worked better for movies/audo
[12:36] <dann> it said it needed to remove linked packages
[12:36] <brambo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57687/
[12:36] <Johnny_5> well need 2 go 2 bed now
[12:36] <dann> Yeh, but VLC wont install either
[12:36] <Johnny_5> later all
[12:36] <pajamian> LoLLo: ln -s / ~/Desktop/filesystem
[12:36] <hischild> dann, okay. I agree that vlc does work better. Does it give you any errors?
[12:36] <pajamian> LoLLo: that should do it
[12:36] <Da_Putzler> dann: what's it say ?
[12:36] <Keith_Mc-Kay> Johnny_5, but im still stuck on 800x600
[12:36] <dann> checking it now
[12:36] <Keith_Mc-Kay> heh
[12:36] <dm_> so
[12:36] <anderson> hi
[12:36] <Johnny_5> heh
[12:36] <Keith_Mc-Kay> guess i cant run euae on it
[12:37] <Keith_Mc-Kay> thats why i wanted it higher
[12:37] <dann> when instaling vlc
[12:37] <dann> it says it conflicts with another package, check in synaptics
[12:38] <Da_Putzler> are you installing it through the add/remove proggy ?
[12:38] <dann> yes
[12:38] <pajamian> brambo: I see the problem, I think...
[12:38] <Da_Putzler> goto synaptic and make sure vlc isnt already on the system in some form
[12:38] <Da_Putzler> if it is, remove and re-install
[12:39] <brambo> pajamian: what is OSD ?
[12:39] <LoLLo> ok thx ! another thing .. where are ubuntu's icons ? in which folder ?
[12:39] <ce_inginkasih_de> da yang dari indonesia g???
[12:39] <hischild> brambo, OSD = onscreen display
[12:39] <ce_inginkasih_de> mau nanya niee
[12:39] <dann> nothing concerning vlc is installed in synap
[12:39] <Da_Putzler> ... /usr/share/pixmaps for icons
[12:40] <pajamian> brambo: do this: sudo su -c 'echo "deb http://apt.rigsofrods.com/ Packages" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rigsofrods.list'
[12:40] <LoLLo> yee thx !
[12:40] <hischild> dann, does it say with what package it is conflicting?
[12:40] <dann> nope
[12:40] <brambo> pajamian: ok done
[12:40] <Da_Putzler> dann: go here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[12:40] <pajamian> brambo: sudo apt-get update
[12:41] <fastfinger> Anyone have any ideas regarding my problems? :<
[12:41] <pope> Soud will not play through the onboard speakers of my Toshiba Satellite Notebook, however with headphones plugged in, sound does work.  How can I enable both the headphone jack, and the notebooks speakres?
[12:41] <brambo> pajamian: E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rigsofrods.list (dist parse)
[12:41] <dookdook> sorry for the noob question: how do i find out where the binaries of the apt-get'd package i got are?
[12:41] <ce_inginkasih_de> haloo alll
[12:41] <ce_inginkasih_de> help me
[12:41] <dann> but I think it's best to reinstall or restore because I also get errors on startup
[12:41] <hischild> !anyone | ce_inginkasih_de
[12:41] <ubotu> ce_inginkasih_de: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:41] <Da_Putzler> did u install anything weird ? or fiddle with something lately ?
[12:42] <LoLLo> is there a way to delete the white arrow of the link paja ? ?
[12:42] <pajamian> brambo: sorry, try this...
[12:42] <dann> I only deleted things
[12:42] <Nitroray> HIschild - Did not worked (rebooting I mean)
[12:42] <pajamian> brambo: do this: sudo su -c 'echo "deb http://apt.rigsofrods.com/ / Packages" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rigsofrods.list'
[12:42] <dann> gstreamer stuff
[12:42] <Da_Putzler> dann: what things ?
[12:42] <dann> but I think I deleted the wrong things
[12:42] <Da_Putzler> u tried installing gstreamer again and then installing vlc...
[12:42] <hischild> Nitroray, i was afraid of that ... i'm afraid i have to pass it on since i'm out of things :(
[12:42] <dann> Everything concerning gstreamer
[12:42] <dann> yeh, gstreamer gives even weirder errors
[12:43] <Nitroray> Hischild - Btw, what's the diffrence between the Xserver Client??, GNOME, and others ?
[12:43] <Da_Putzler> dann: yeh, sound like u need a fresh install... something's went wrong
[12:43] <hischild> Nitroray, one thing you could try is setting it to custom ..
[12:43] <Nitroray> only the look ?
[12:43] <Nitroray> Hischild - How ?
[12:43] <hischild> Nitroray, the basics on how they are build ...
[12:43] <brambo> pajamian: i did that, now its back to the desktop:~$
[12:43] <pajamian> LoLLo: not sure off the top of my head, that arrow shows that it's a symbolic link, and it's generally a good thing that it's there.
[12:43] <Nitroray> Hischild - How to set it custom ?
[12:43] <hischild> Nitroray, system -> preferences -> appearance -> there's that option of full or sth like that? there should be an option custom
[12:43] <pajamian> brambo: sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <legend2440> dookdook: /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:44] <Nitroray> Hischild - Thanks
[12:44] <Da_Putzler> dann: thing is, if you dont necessarily use something, you dont have to remove it completely unless it's a silly program or utility...
[12:44] <LoLLo> okz
[12:44] <hischild> brb ... switching pc's
[12:44] <brambo> pajamian: still Malformed line 1 in source list
[12:44] <dann> Hmmm ok
[12:44] <pajamian> brambo: one min...
[12:44] <dann> first time linux
[12:44] <dann> so itś all kinda new
[12:44] <dann> :D
[12:44] <hischild> bk
[12:44] <brambo> pajamian: np ty
[12:45] <Da_Putzler> tis kewl...  check out Ubuntu Tweak and BUM (Boot-up Manager) if u wanna tweak settings and make things faster tho...
[12:45] <dookdook> legend2440, theres nothing there besides an empty partial dir. and a lock file
[12:45] <dann> Ill check it out
[12:45] <dann> thanks for the help
[12:45] <LoLLo> paja another thing ... i've some folder which are necessary for the running of some programs ( like skype etc etc ) and currently them are in my desktop ... well , is there a specific folder that could contain them ? ( like usr/share but i'm not sure )
[12:46] <Da_Putzler> and if u wanna really speedup Firefox, type this in terminal: "MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefox &"
[12:46] <netcrash> Hello with dapper drake , heartbeat-2 how can I know witch packages it will install ?
[12:47] <X-Seti> <- Keith_Mc-kay
[12:47] <legend2440> dookdook if you use synaptic or apt-get to download packages they go in /var/cache/apt/archives unless you did a apt-get clean
[12:47] <willis_> the package manager tool can give a lot of info on packages.
[12:47] <X-Seti> im on the server box now with the screenmode 800x600
[12:47] <pajamian> brambo: what do you get from: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rigsofrods.list
[12:47] <khalood> hey , is there any simple or video tutorial for installing ubuntu with UNetBootin ???
[12:47] <khalood> I already have the iso downloaded
[12:47] <X-Seti> Johnny_5.
[12:47] <Marbug> I'm using gnome and all aplications from kde uses klauncher, so I'm getting the error: "cannot talk to klauncher", how to solve that problem ?
[12:48] <dookdook> legend2440, i've only done apt-get install and apt-get update...i'm also on an internet tablet if thats relevant
[12:48] <LoLLo> paja another thing ... i've some folder which are necessary for the running of some programs ( like skype etc etc ) and currently them are in my desktop ... well , is there a specific folder that could contain them ? ( like usr/share but i'm not sure )
[12:48] <brambo> pajamian: deb http://apt.rigsofrods.com/ / Packages
[12:48] <pajamian> LoLLo: I'm not aware that skype actually requires you to have certain folders on your desktop, I think it would be pretty dumb for any program to actually make that a requirement.
[12:48] <Nitroray> Hischild - HOw to ask others about my problem,???
[12:49] <willis_> pajamian,  ive not noticed that requirement either.
[12:49] <X-Seti> cool. i dont remember registering here.
[12:49] <khalood> any help please ???
[12:49] <hischild> folks of this almighty channel .... Nitroray has a mouse that dissapears for no reason in compiz ....
[12:49] <hischild> Nitroray, sth like that? :P
[12:49] <ArthurArchnix> Is this channel recorded, and if so, where can I go to search for conversations?
[12:49] <Nitroray> Hischild, Thanks
[12:49] <willis_> !install | khalood
[12:49] <ubotu> khalood: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:49] <LoLLo> pajaman ... i don't know but i've deleted the Adobe folder of the desktop and then it doesn't run anymore !!!
[12:49] <hischild> !log
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[12:50] <LoLLo> uhm ... i'm scared to delete skype too :D
[12:50] <ArthurArchnix> cheers hischild
[12:50] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, ^
[12:50] <legend2440> dookdook: maybe do a search for *.deb will tell you where they are
[12:50] <brambo> pajamian: did u get what i pasted from cat ?
[12:50] <pajamian> brambo: yes
[12:50] <X-Seti>  Registered: 3 years 17 weeks 4 days (20h 54m 18s) ago
[12:50] <X-Seti> LOL
[12:50] <pajamian> brambo: that looks correct
[12:50] <franz1789> hi, why everytime I access Ubuntu, I have to do "metacity --replace" to see windows border? what can i do to make all work correcly?
[12:50] <X-Seti> guess this is my return
[12:50] <fastfinger> Hmm, any idea  what i should be looking for, at login screen i get a flickring screen (like a tv without cable connected black with gray dots flickring)
[12:50] <Nitroray> Hischild - How to just restart everything?? Like really everything ? not reboot.
[12:51] <khalood> I don't have a cd rom , and unetbootin is hard to deal with
[12:51] <Nitroray> Hischild, maybe this works..
[12:51] <willis_> franz1789,  seems that compiz or somthing is crashing. Try disabling all the desktop effects.
[12:51] <khalood> any simple explaination
[12:51] <pajamian> brambo: give me one min ...
[12:51] <franz1789> willis_, I have not compiz or stuff like these
[12:51] <pajamian> brambo: I'm going to experiment some
[12:51] <hischild> Nitroray, that would be the compiz --replace
[12:51] <LoLLo> pajaman ... i don't know but i've deleted the Adobe folder of the desktop and then it doesn't run anymore !!! i just wanna move that folders in a right position and don't have them in thedesktop
[12:51] <brambo> pajamian: i get a strange message when i open my update manager, i will post a link from pastebin
[12:52] <willis_> franz1789,  are you saying you remioved compiz?  right click desktop -> change wallpaper -> Visual effects  Select NONE.
[12:52] <pajamian> brambo: don't worry about it, the update manager won't work if there's a bad line in the sources.list ...
[12:53] <brambo> pajamian: ok i just thought there was a error somewhere
[12:53] <Nitroray> How to put graphics to none, without using the mouse? I can use Terminal.
[12:53] <hischild> X-Seti, welcome home?
[12:53] <franz1789> willis_, yep, I removed it, but I never used it, so the visual effects are already set to none
[12:53] <LoLLo> how to cut a file from the terminal ? what's the command ?
[12:53] <fastfinger> I wrote everythig down here, if any one could help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4421205#post4421205
[12:53] <franz1789> willis_, the problem is in metacity, don't know what is it
[12:54] <willis_> franz1789,  by removeing it - you broke some things.  - gnome is launching a 'default window manager' and by removeing compiz - you broke how it figures out the default.
[12:54] <fastfinger> LoLLo: cut as in cut and paste? use mv command
[12:54] <Nitroray> Anybody? HOW to put graphics to NONE, without using the mouse ??? ?
[12:54] <willis_> franz1789,  had a similer issue on a laptop.. i forget how i fixed it.
[12:54] <X-Seti> thanks mate
[12:55] <X-Seti> ok, time to get e-uae working
[12:55]  * X-Seti runs away, bbl
[12:55] <willis_> Nitroray,  you meanyou have a pointer but cant move it due to not having a mouse>?  or you dont even have a pointer?
[12:56] <Nitroray> willis_ I have a mouse, but I turned graphiscs to ectra and installed some thing (what was it Hischild? ) and now I can't see my pointer, and I see echo's in the screen :(
[12:56] <Nitroray> Willis_ I have a pointer I mean.
[12:56] <pajamian> brambo: sudo su -c 'echo "deb http://apt.rigsofrods.com/ /" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rigsofrods.list'
[12:56] <LoLLo> if i cut skype and move it into another folder it doesn't work !! " the son process isn't found " ... !!!!
[12:57] <willis_> Nitroray,  i rember some way to use the numpad as a mouse.. but i forget where i even saw that at.
[12:57] <hischild> willis_, he was missing xserver-xgl
[12:57] <pajamian> LoLLo: you mean how do you move a file in the terminal?
[12:57] <LoLLo> yes i've already done it np paja
[12:57] <LoLLo> but
[12:57] <brambo> pajamian: just goes back to dekstop:~$ also
[12:57] <LoLLo> if i cut skype and move it into another folder it doesn't work !! " the son process isn't found " ... !!!!
[12:58] <Nitroray> willis_ My pointer is okay, but Ubunutu fxxed up the image on my screen. The mouse icons.
[12:58] <pajamian> brambo: I know, it's supposed to
[12:58] <pajamian> brambo: sudo apt-get update
[12:58] <Nitroray> Iwillis_ I can see it some seconds, and then some sedonds it disappears..
[12:58] <pajamian> LoLLo: how did you install skype in the first place?
[12:58] <Nitroray> *seconds
[12:58] <brambo> pajamian: it showed alot of stuff like what i posted at  pastebin
[12:59] <pajamian> brambo: that's fine
[12:59] <LoLLo> i don't remember i've done it a couple of mounths ago ... :s
[12:59] <pajamian> brambo: sudo apt-get install rigsofrods rigsofrods-data rigsofrods-wx rigsofrods-addon
[12:59] <Nitroray> willis_ The only thing that does not work, is the icon of the mouse, the  mouse does work itself.
[13:00] <pajamian> LoLLo: do you remember if you installed it from a .deb or from a repository (apt-get install or synaptic)?
[13:00] <brambo> pajamian: E: Couldn't find package rigsofrods
[13:00] <Nitroray> it did work, before I installed something. for the graphics, what was it again Hischild ?
[13:00] <hischild> xserver-xgl
[13:00] <LoLLo> i think i must keep them in the desktop arrrrrrg
[13:01] <pajamian> brambo: not sure what to say, I tried just those steps and it goes on to list the packages and ask me if I want to install them.
[13:01] <LoLLo> internet explorer doesn't run too
[13:01] <LordCrimson> hello. Could somebody say, what mean that suggestions, that appeared after i entered "scp" and pressed <tab><tab>? after "cat" there are no such things. http://rafb.net/p/e8LyvA13.html
[13:01] <Nitroray> willis_ It was xserver-xgl, thank you Hischild
[13:01] <pajamian> brambo: I actually just tried it on my own computer and it works.
[13:01] <pajamian> LoLLo: Internet Explorer?
[13:01] <brambo> pajamian: then there is a error somewhere on my pc?
[13:02] <pajamian> brambo: I don't know.
[13:02] <Lin> ???
[13:02] <Nitroray> Hischild - is it possible that you take over control over my computer ? I have some app's installed for it, just in case of this would happen.
[13:02] <FD_F> Hello i install 8800GT driver on Ubuntu and the driver work grate but when i restart it not working  so i need install again the nvidia driver  every time i restart
[13:03] <brambo> pajamian: before we started this i was able to use update manager now i can't..
[13:03] <hischild> Nitroray, yes i could, yet there's not much that i can do atm since i'm not sure why it does that
[13:03] <pajamian> brambo: try it now
[13:03] <Nitroray> Hischild - What application would I open, can you help me with it ? Maybe you will be able to see my cursor.
[13:03] <brambo> pajamian: are you on 32 or 64bit?
[13:04] <pajamian> brambo: 32
[13:04] <pajamian> brambo: are you on 64?
[13:04] <brambo> pajamian: yes
[13:04] <brambo> pajamian: maybe that is why
[13:04] <pajamian> brambo: that could be your problem, there are no 64 bit packages in the repo.
[13:04] <hischild> Nitroray, i dont' know how to set up vnc properly. and ssh won't allow me to see your desktop
[13:04] <brambo> pajamian: probably
[13:05] <Nitroray> Hischild - Know anything to do it ? Just any program ???
[13:05] <pajamian> brambo: I tend to recommend that people don't use the 64 bit ubuntu for desktop for reasons like this.
[13:05] <hischild> Nitroray, any general vnc program should be able to do it
[13:05] <Nitroray> Hischild - Can you please use it on me ?
[13:05] <hischild> Nitroray, i don't know how to set up vnc properly so i can't  ... mostly since the most difficult part would be on your end
[13:06] <hischild> what you can do, is hit ctrl alt f2, login and remove xserver-xgl and then reboot
[13:06] <willis_> You really dont want to use vnc over the internet. without a ssh tunnle either.
[13:06] <FreezeS> hi people
[13:06] <brambo> pajamian: how can i send you a image of what i see when i try update manager? asks me to Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible and some other info
[13:06] <FreezeS> I just upgraded from feisty to hardy (64 bit) and there seems to be a problem upgrading update-manager
[13:06] <FreezeS> python throws an error
[13:06] <FreezeS> is this a known bug ?
[13:06] <pajamian> brambo: try this instead ...
[13:07] <willis_> gnome has a 'share desktop' feature that uses vnc.  to share the current desktop. - but ive not used it befor.  Not sure how secure it is comared to normal vnc.
[13:07] <hischild> FreezeS, hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[13:07] <Nitroray> Hischild - can't I just do something like: Disable xserver-xgl and reboot ?????
[13:07] <pajamian> brambo: sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:07] <FreezeS> hischild: thanks
[13:07] <pajamian> brambo: then copy and paste the results into the pastebin
[13:07] <hischild> Nitroray, it's easier to do sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[13:08] <brambo> pajamian: its doing some updates
[13:08] <pajamian> brambo: that's good, that's the command-line version of the update manager
[13:09] <brambo> pajamian: after this the regular update manager should be working maybe?
[13:09] <pajamian> brambo: hopefully.
[13:09] <brambo> pajamian: ok there is alot of text, should i still post in pastebin?
[13:09] <pajamian> brambo: if it doesn't ask someone else in here for help, unfortunately I have to head to bed, wife is bugging me.
[13:10] <brambo> pajamian: okay, im sorry to keep you
[13:10] <pajamian> brambo: no problem, and good luck
[13:10] <brambo> pajamian: thanks for what you have done
[13:10] <Nitroray> Hischild - While removing it said: 18 packages where not upgraded and/or updated
[13:10] <hischild> Nitroray, so  --> update
[13:10] <hischild> sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:10] <mohamed_> i installed acces point connected to thr router, any computer connected to access point get ip from the router , my question is it possible that computers don't get router ip or i can use different ip for clients any help ?
[13:11] <Nitroray> Hischild - NOw its already removed :(
[13:11] <hischild> Nitroray, yes it has been removed if you executed my previous command. Now , since there are still unupdated packages around, you can update it
[13:14] <Nitroray> Hischild?
[13:14] <Nitroray> it worked.
[13:14] <hischild> yes
[13:14] <hischild> good
[13:15] <brambo> i think im gonna head out for a bit, later everyone
[13:15] <Nitroray> Yeah, but I really need the Extra Grapphics, I need to show my school that we need to use Ubuntu ipo XP...
[13:15] <hischild> Nitroray, but you have your mouse back?
[13:16] <JuJuBee> I am having trouble starting dansguardian.  I get this error ... Error binding server socket (is something else running on the filter port and ip? [8080 192.168.6.200])  How do I see what else is using port 8080?
[13:16] <[D]ANIEL[a]> dfsdfdhgjn
[13:16] <[D]ANIEL[a]> so prais
[13:17] <Nitroray> Hischild - Yes, but I think I could not update because of my next error: when I close some application like Pidgin, it should be on the Bar right ? like a small icon. well. it keeps me online, but it won't get placed at the toolbar :( how to solve this problem ?
[13:17] <nikon252> anyone know how I can solve this problem:
[13:17] <hischild> Nitroray, usually the apps have their own preferences for that. You can check for pidgin in it's options
[13:17] <nikon252> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libvolume-id0_113-0ubuntu17_amd64.deb: files list file for package `mono-runtime' is missing final newline
[13:17] <soussou> can I ask a little question here? I have a weird color scheme on my box, I like it a lot, but when I use firefox to search for something, the suggestions that pop up are unreadable, as they are black on a black background.
[13:17] <soussou> any ideas how this can be changed?
[13:18] <Nitroray> Hischild - No, it aint that, becus when I use Evolution, it happens too, long time this did not happen, and I did not change configuration.. :(
[13:18] <hischild> Nitroray, that's odd ... :(
[13:18] <hischild> Nitroray, i'm not sure why it'd do that
[13:18] <willis_> JuJuBee,  you are running it as root/with sudo? -  (other then that - i got no clue)
[13:19] <JuJuBee> willis_ : yes
[13:19] <Nitroray> Hischild - Is there a way to get to the very very very 1st settings from Ubunut, I installed some 3rd party progs. I guess its that...
[13:19] <Presario> guys, when i am in the graphical ubuntu desktop and i disable xserver, my monitor says no input
[13:19] <willis_> JuJuBee,  sure you havent accidently ran it twice?
[13:19] <hischild> JuJuBee, netstat -a :-)
[13:19] <hischild> Nitroray, other then a reinstall? not afaik :(
[13:20] <fujin> hiyas. I've got a server which is reporting high disk usage, yet du -sh /* doesn't reveal where the disk usage actually is, and I don't know why, it's like it's hidden or something
[13:20] <Nitroray> Hischild - What means afaik ?
[13:20] <fujin> is there some other cli tool that can better tell me where disk usag eis?
[13:20] <soussou> anybody has an idea how to change the color scheme of firefox pop-up suggestions when one uses the google window for searching something?
[13:20] <surrounder> Nitroray: as far as I know
[13:20] <hischild> Nitroray, as far as i know
[13:20] <Nitroray> thanks
[13:20] <soussou> When I use firefox to search for something, the suggestions that pop up are unreadable, as they are black on a black background.
[13:20] <bod_> hischild, hey dude,.how did the graphics card thing go ?
[13:20] <soussou> any ideas how this can be changed?
[13:20] <hischild> bod_, fine!
[13:21] <Nitroray> Somebody else know how to get to the blanco Ubuntu? So it will only have the standard programs like Evolution Mozilla and Pidgin ???
[13:21] <bod_> soussou, firefox preferences-->colours preference   afaik
[13:21] <hischild> bod_, yet now i'm trying to do the same thing on 7,10, since hardy is a little bit 2 unstable for me atm
[13:21] <soussou> bod: I tried that one, it doesn't work
[13:21] <bod_> hischild, wicked! how did you fix the gdm carsh?
[13:21] <bod_> soussou, chane your theme?
[13:21] <JuJuBee> hischild : no dansguardian listed
[13:22] <hischild> bod_, apparently it works fine when i turn acpi off ... the only thing i'm still thinking about is why the live cd would crash when i turned acpi off
[13:22] <hischild> bod_, and with the i386 kernel instead of the generic :-)
[13:22] <bod_> hischild, sounds painfully complicated,.,.
[13:23] <hischild> bod_, only took me all night :-)
[13:23] <bod_> ;~)
[13:23] <soussou> bod: it's a radical solution
[13:24] <bod_> soussou, allow firefox to use default firefox theme not your theme?
[13:24] <hischild> soussou, which solution ... ?
[13:24] <bod_> hischild, changing whole theme
[13:24] <hischild> ah
[13:24] <soussou> bod: how would u do that?
[13:24] <soussou> I would love to be able to do that
[13:25] <soussou> but I don't know how to
[13:25] <Nitroray> Hischild- Where the f**k you from, Im from holland, you too :D
[13:25] <hischild> yush :-)
[13:25] <Nitroray> Hischild - Only EN huh ?
[13:25] <bod_> !language | Nitroray
[13:25] <Pici> !language | Nitroray
[13:25] <ubotu> Nitroray: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:25] <hischild> Nitroray, #ubuntu-nl ;-)
[13:25] <Digi> ok I think i messed up my add and remove list after trying to install wine and I have tried the sudo apt-get update and the sudo apt-get install -p and not known on line 1 in source list
[13:26] <Nitroray> Hischild - You come there too ?
[13:26] <hischild> yep
[13:26] <soussou> bod: how would u change the color scheme for firefox only?
[13:27] <bod_> soussou, edit-->preferences-->content tab-->advanced-->tick the 'use own coulours box'
[13:27] <legend2440> JuJuBee are you using a proxy server?
[13:27] <JuJuBee> legend2440: yes, squid but after dansguardian and it uses 3128
[13:27] <Nitroray> Bye BYe all! @ #ubuntu-nl
[13:28] <legend2440> JuJuBee: yes, The proxy server must be started BEFORE dansguardian
[13:28] <fujin> hrm.. I just created a disk usage report with 'durep' and well, there's 50GB missing somewhere
[13:28] <soussou> bod: I don't have that option, but thanks anyway
[13:29] <bod_> soussou, what ff version have you got?
[13:30] <itai-michaelson> Digi, can you post your sources list?
[13:30] <soussou> bod: 2.0.0.12
[13:30] <ArthurArchnix> Anyone else see all those network-manager debugging messages before gdm comes up before login, and before usplash comes up on shutdown?
[13:30] <bod_> soussou, then you do have that option,.,.which bit cant you find?
[13:31] <soussou> use own color scheme
[13:31] <hischild> bod_, i just installed it ... and so far it works ... now for gdm ...
[13:31] <Digi> ect/apt/sources.listd/winehg.list
[13:31] <soussou> it's not available, so I must have a non traditional firefox
[13:31] <soussou> I think the firefox i have has been tweaked a lot
[13:32] <Digi> oops i forgot a.
[13:32] <bod_> soussou, sorry, instead of advanced choose -->colours-->box reads "allow sites to use their own colours rather then mine"            (or something close to that)
[13:32] <itai-michaelson> digi i dont understand what error are you getting?
[13:32] <tinman> My X server is failing to load, where can I find the error logs? (I am on live cd)
[13:33] <soussou> bod: I have that one ticked already
[13:33] <bod_> soussou, oh, sorry, thats the only thing i can think of
[13:33] <bod_> soussou, try #firefox or #mozilla
[13:33] <soussou> it's only when I am searching and firefox throws some suggestions that the color scheme gets messy
[13:33] <soussou> bod: thanks man
[13:34] <bod_> np ;~)
[13:34] <soussou> I appreciate your help
[13:34] <fujin> /dev/sda1 64G   55G  5.8G  91% /.. but, http://junglist.gen.nz/usage/0.html
[13:34] <fujin> i can't see the usage
[13:34] <fujin> anyone know of htis?
[13:36] <ks3> fujin, are you saying that the amounts don't add up?
[13:36] <fujin> ks3: indeed
[13:37] <ks3> fujin, by default, an amount is "reserved", i believe 10%. it can be changed with tune2fs
[13:37] <neville_> The options for Ark have disappeared from my context menu. How do I add them back to it?
[13:37] <tinman> Does anyone where when I can find the error logs for the X.org? During boot up it says failed to start
[13:38] <derek> i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to use i guess its binary
[13:38] <fujin> 10% != 50~ GB
[13:38] <legend2440> JuJuBee: have you read this http://www.linux.com/articles/113733
[13:38] <inx-one> tinman: /var/log/Xorg.log
[13:38] <hischild> bod_, acpi=off is the winner for me
[13:39] <tinman> inx-one: # cat Xorg.log
[13:39] <bod_> hischild, god stuff
[13:39] <tinman> cat: Xorg.log: No such file or directory
[13:39] <derek> this is a crazy adjustment from windows
[13:39] <richee> ubotu hi
[13:39] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:39] <tinman> inx-one: I mounted my root partition and I am actually searching it there
[13:39] <derek> hi
[13:39] <Digi> well I tired to install wine and no I have no add/remove list when i bring up the add/remove list says there in a error and i should fix it but doing a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install -p now I get this when i do the update part E: Type '-- -21:10:01-- -' is not know on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.li
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <FloodBot2> rara_jelek_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <itai-michaelson> digi, if you get an error realting to your sources list - its probably better to post your sources list (the command is "cat /etc/apt/sources.list")
[13:40] <inx-one> tinman: full path - or first  do cd /var/log/
[13:40] <CreativeEmbassy> i'm having a rough time with mysql here :-(
[13:40] <LoLLo> pajaman are u in ?
[13:40] <CreativeEmbassy> couldn't start it no matter what I did, so I'm doing a complete removal of all packages
[13:40] <richee> how are you doing ubotu?
[13:41] <tinman> inx-one: cd /mountpoint/var/log is what I am doing
[13:41] <CreativeEmbassy> anyone here have experience with mysql?
[13:41] <derek> howwhen i try to install flashplayer or reader it says in the page  i get error :not supported error ect...
[13:41] <inx-one> tinman: correct
[13:41] <bod_> !anyone | CreativeEmbassy
[13:41] <ubotu> CreativeEmbassy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[13:41] <ks3> fujin, ahh, sorry, didn't look closely enough at the numbers... do the numbers from that web report match up with running du manually?
[13:41] <CreativeEmbassy> I don't have a real question yet. ;-)
[13:41] <derek> i been looking for answers
[13:41] <fujin> ks3: yes
[13:41] <fujin> they match up
[13:41] <derek> almost a week my head hurts
[13:42] <tinman> inx-one: when I booted, it tells me x server failed to load and I should fix it before i can start it, the error was saying something about too many parameter on like 47 or osmethign similar
[13:42] <inx-one> tinman: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:43] <gpellis64> derek: 64 bit ubuntu
[13:43] <tinman> inx-one: thorugh live cd?
[13:44] <inx-one> tinman: ah, no - try booting from the hard drive in recovery mode
[13:44] <inx-one> tinman: you should get a root prompt that way
[13:44] <macafe> I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy with beryl effects and when I try open the program "Jude Community UML" happen this error of Java < http://pastebin.com/d17fdaff6 >. What I can do to solve this?
[13:44] <tinman> inx-one: And I will not need to be connected to the internet right?
[13:44] <inx-one> tinman: then reconfigure X as above
[13:44] <tinman> Okey, thanks
[13:45] <inx-one> tinman:  X has nothing to do with the network - at least for config purposes :)
[13:46] <willit> Hi there all, I was just wondering if I was in the correct place to ask about an Ubuntu installation problem?
[13:46] <Kira> something is wrong with my Apache config
[13:47] <Pendeta> Is there a channel for LAN/WAN discussions?
[13:47] <inx-one> willit: just ask - and yes probably :)
[13:47] <hischild> Pendeta, you're in it if it's about ubuntu :-)
[13:47] <willit> ok thx, I am just not sure as this is the first time I been to anything like this
[13:47] <Kira> some how all requests, regardless of domain name, are being directed to one path.
[13:47] <inx-one> !welcome | willit
[13:47] <ubotu> willit: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[13:48] <Pendeta> hischild, it's mixed Windows XP and Linux (not sure of he flavor).
[13:48] <hischild> Pendeta, and what's the trouble you're having?
[13:49] <willit> well my question was, when I am trying to install ubuntu from a cd and it gets as far as detecting the disks and nothing happens nothing is shown and I don't think it is findinganything and I was wondering if there was a way I can put some drivers somewhree for it o use to recognise my drives
[13:49] <inx-one> willit: how much RAM do you have ?
[13:49] <Slart> I have a ext3 partition, total size about 700 Gb, with about 1300 files in about 250 folders taking up approx 300Gb. If I open this partition in nautilus it takes a couple of seconds to show the files... 1300 files doesn't seem like a lot for ext3 to handle.  Is there anything I can do to speed this up? would another filesystem produce better results?
[13:50] <Pendeta> hischild, can my own DSL modem block me from connecting to my own website on a remote server (running Linux)?
[13:50] <willit> I have a 1GB of ram, ps, how do I message to someone on this
[13:50] <hischild> Pendeta, depending on your dsl modem it can do that yes.
[13:50] <Digi> there is list which one do I get
[13:50] <inx-one> !msg
[13:50] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[13:51] <Cyntrox> I managed to fuck up my $PATH... However, I know what it was set to. How can I set it back?
[13:51] <willit> ah ok thx for htat info, I am learning the eticate of this too :-)
[13:51] <inx-one> willit: 1 Gig is plenty - does anything happen at all?
[13:51] <poeticalsupra> will regular yahoo messenger and other things of that nature work on ubuntu?
[13:51] <erUSUL> Slart: maybe using tune2fs to turn on dir_index
[13:52] <erUSUL> Slart: maybe you can tweak other tunables...
[13:52] <willit> well at the detect drive screen it pops up something detecting drives that disapears then a I get a busy mouse icon and thats it
[13:52] <_maney> So what's with abiword (Gutsy)?  Just installed it to print a student's document from home (amazing - they haven't all shelled out for M$ Offi$e!), and all it does is crash  :-(
[13:52] <Slart> erUSUL: ah... sounds interesting.. I'll give it a try, see if it does any good
[13:52] <inx-one> willit: if you can't get the live CD install to work, try the "alternate" Cd instead
[13:53] <Pendeta> hischild, diagnostics on the modem say PPP Authentication fails. Is that a problem with my modem, or with the ISP itself?
[13:53] <hischild> Pendeta, can you access the internet in general?
[13:53] <CLC> oi pessoal
[13:53] <Pendeta> hischild, yes.
[13:53] <inx-one> willit: many people have more success with the alternate
[13:53] <_damir> can somebody help
[13:53] <_damir> i cant connect as root
[13:53] <_damir> sudo command not work ?
[13:53] <CLC> eu estou com o linux aqui e um grub no inicio
[13:53] <erUSUL> _damir: error msg?
[13:54] <_damir> no
[13:54] <erUSUL> !pt | CLC
[13:54] <_damir> just cant connect :S
[13:54] <ubotu> CLC: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:54] <_damir> tj login
[13:54] <CLC> se eu instalar o windows na particao dele agora vai dar erro ?
[13:54] <itai-michaelson> digi put the command i gave you in the terminal , copy the output to this website :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, click "paste" and give me the URL
[13:54] <inx-one> _damir: Please don't /msg people without asking
[13:54] <CLC> OK
[13:54] <willit> ok I am downloading a cd for the latest ubuntu version so I will try that, but I am unsure its live or alternate, how do I know?
[13:54] <CLC> sorry
[13:54] <hischild> _damir, that's normal. There is no root password.
[13:54] <hischild> !sudo
[13:54] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[13:54] <hischild> !root | _damir
[13:54] <ubotu> _damir: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:54] <erUSUL> !pm | _damir
[13:54] <ubotu> _damir: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[13:54] <_damir> i cant connect with
[13:54] <_damir> sudo su
[13:55] <inx-one> willit: does it boot to a desktop or just sit there?
[13:55] <_maney> willit: the alternate's usual filename includes "alternate"
[13:55] <erUSUL> _damir: you are using sudo wrongly
[13:55] <hischild> Pendeta, it is just the server you are unable to access?
[13:55] <erUSUL> !sudo | _damir
[13:55] <willit> thcx maney
[13:55] <hischild> Pendeta, can other access it?
[13:55] <ubotu> _damir: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[13:55] <willit> and yes it boots to the desktop and I click the install icon
[13:55] <erUSUL> _damir: please read that documentation up
[13:55] <tinman> inx-one: i ran that command after i chrooted :s
[13:55] <tinman> inx-one: i am getting a  No X server known for your video hardware
[13:55] <erUSUL> _damir: if you want a root shell use sudo -i
[13:55] <jrib> _maney: abiword works fine here.  Tried running abiword from a terminal and looking for interesting output?
[13:56] <erUSUL> !rootshell > _damir
[13:56] <_maney> $ abiword
[13:56] <_maney> Aborted (core dumped)
[13:56] <inx-one> willit: then you have the live CD + installer - try the alternate CD ( it has a text installer but it is quite easy too)
[13:56] <_maney> tried both "abiword" and "abiword-gtk" packages
[13:56] <Pendeta> hischild, I had my wife go to an internet cafe to see if she could access it from there, and she could. And the Internet cafe uses the same ISP.
[13:56] <Slart> erUSUL: hmm.. no difference.. but I will look into some of the other things you can change using tune2fs.. thansk
[13:56] <inx-one> tinman: ouch
[13:56] <_maney> the latter first - it did NOT install the boatload of dependencies the former did
[13:57] <CLC> hi If I install the windows in the there particion. I going have the problem?
[13:57] <_maney> but they both behave just the same
[13:57] <tinman> inx-one: was working for past 6 months :<
[13:57] <CLC> I speak english verry bad ... sorry ...
[13:57] <jrib> _maney: ubuntu version? architecture?
[13:57] <inx-one> tinman: try choosing vesa when you do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:57] <willit> thx a load inx-one and others who helped I will try that alternate cd out now see if that helps :-)
[13:57] <erUSUL> Slart: keep in mind that turning up dir_index only aply to new files/folders the one already on the fs do not use it iirc
[13:57] <hischild> Pendeta, it sounds strange. Unless you set up some sort of ip block somewhere along the way, which can be on your modem or your server, you should be able to access it
[13:57] <legend2440> _maney what kind of doc is it?
[13:57] <_maney> jrib: Gutsy, i386.  crashes with no document, see above
[13:58] <inx-one> tinman: at least vesa should get you into X
[13:58] <inx-one> willit: no worries - good luck and come back if you have troubles
[13:58] <Slart> erUSUL: ah.. I saw in the manual that running e2fsck -D on the filesystem orders directories and such.. I'm doing that atm
[13:58] <tinman> inx-one: The X server configuration file associates your video card with a name    │   │ that you may provide.
[13:59] <legend2440> _maney yes i see that but you could try gedit or openoffice if you need to print something quickly
[13:59] <tinman> do i need to name it?
[13:59] <Pendeta> hischild, I'm in Indonesia, and the web server in in the USA. Could that have anything to do with it?
[13:59] <rx-DONNiE> is there an easy way to recover or reinstall ubuntu?
[13:59] <inx-one> tinman: just use the defaults until you come to the driver section - then choose vesa
[13:59] <_maney> legend2440: that's an option, but he XML will take a bunch of cleaning up, reformatting... and the issue HERE is that abiword ralphs
[13:59] <ppibburr> rx-
[13:59] <ppibburr> rx- What is meant by recover?
[14:00] <tinman> inx-one: after i choosed vesa, it asked me that
[14:00] <erUSUL> Slart: also you can play with the journal mode of ext3 (mount option data=whatever)
[14:00] <inx-one> tinman: and choose the "eaasy" option - we are just trying to make X work
[14:00] <hischild> Pendeta, not as far as my knowledge goes
[14:00] <rx-DONNiE> deleted some files that shouldnt be deleted
[14:00] <inx-one> tinman: hmmm - shouldn't matter as far as I know
[14:00] <archman> a little ot: where to find channel xmms?
[14:00] <tinman> inx-one: so i just leave the name as Generic Vedio Card?
[14:00] <Slart> erUSUL: you think the journal is causing it?... well.. it's worth trying
[14:00] <tinman> k
[14:00] <inx-one> tinman: yes
[14:00] <ppibburr> what type of files?
[14:00] <rx-DONNiE> so i need to get ubuntu back in its origional state
[14:00] <inx-one> tinman: in general, the defaults are OK
[14:01] <Pendeta> hischild, ok, many thanks.
[14:01] <Slart> rx-DONNiE: depends on what files you deleted
[14:01] <tinman> inx-one: k ^^
[14:01] <rx-DONNiE> deleted gstreamer via synaptics, and it deleted some files with it
[14:01] <tinman> inx-one: it askes me amount of memory to be used by vedio card? :o
[14:01] <gpellis64> what is the next ubuntu title
[14:01] <piotreek> Hi guys!
[14:01] <rx-DONNiE> getting errors like
[14:01] <erUSUL> Slart: ext3 does full data metadata journalling by default (slower) other fs only journal metadata by default
[14:01] <rx-DONNiE> couldnt find gnome: mix applet
[14:01] <archman> gpellis64 hardy heron?
[14:01] <Slart> rx-DONNiE: I supposed you could boot from a live cd and try copying files from the live system to your harddrive.. I don't think it can get worse by trying that =)
[14:01] <rx-DONNiE> and gnome: trash applet
[14:01] <piotreek> can somebody tell me where in Kubuntu 7.10 default iptables rules are set?
[14:02] <inx-one> tinman: but once you have X working, you might want to google your video card etc - the memory just leave blank
[14:02] <ppibburr> apt-get install gstreamer?
[14:02] <gpellis64> archman:thank you
[14:02] <inx-one> tinman: as I said, just accept the defaults except for vesa
[14:02] <tinman> inx-one: asaik, i have an inbuild graphics card, a tomato mother board with a intel celron processor
[14:02] <archman> gpellis64: no stable release yet....
[14:02] <erUSUL> piotreek: there are no "default iptables rules" on (k,x, )ubuntu
[14:02] <piotreek> i have writed firewall script but when i restart my ubuntu my firewall rules
[14:02] <Slart> erUSUL: yes.. but this is a filesystem that rarely changes.. I didn't think the journal was involved in reading data from a fs.. but I might be wrong.
[14:02] <piotreek> are from out of space
[14:02] <rx-DONNiE> hmmmm
[14:03] <piotreek> and i cannot acces internet etc..
[14:03] <rx-DONNiE> I currently have dualboot
[14:03] <rx-DONNiE> does it still maintain that when reinstalling?
[14:03] <piotreek> i am starting it by /etc/init.d/firewall
[14:03] <erUSUL> piotreek: in a default install 'sudo iptables -L' should return empty rules
[14:03] <inx-one> tinman: you might need to know more than that :) Try running   lspci | grep VGA
[14:03] <piotreek> erUSUL, the problem is not returning empty rules
[14:04] <piotreek> and not returning rules writed by me executed on firewall script
[14:04] <ppibburr> rx-DONNIE if you have dependency problems from removing gstreamer, the apt-get install gstreamer should fix it
[14:04] <jrib> _maney: hmm, first try creating a fresh new user and verify it crashes on that account.  If it does, obtain a backtrace (see ubotu)
[14:04] <erUSUL> piotreek: do a 'iptables -F' to flush everything before adding your own rules
[14:04] <jrib> !backtrace > _maney (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:04] <piotreek> erUSUL, i tried no luck
[14:04] <Slart> erUSUL: remember the default policies.. -f doesn't clear those
[14:04] <tinman> inx-one: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[14:05] <piotreek> something is overwriting rules
[14:05] <piotreek> i followed this howto
[14:05] <inx-one> tinman: OK - so google that with the extra keyword linux and or ubuntu
[14:05] <piotreek> http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/install.html#10
[14:05] <rx-DONNiE> need to do that in terminal?
[14:05] <ph8_> hey all, i have a creative sound system that comes with a remote, i assume that the play/pause buttons pass a signal back to the PC somehow - I imagine ubuntu doesn't recognise those signals by default - how can i see if they're being sent when i press buttons and/or get them recognised?
[14:05] <ppibburr> yes, with sudo
[14:05] <rx-DONNiE> im very new to ubuntu/linux
[14:05] <inx-one> tinman: I know nothing about your card ;)
[14:05] <jrib> _maney: before the backtrace, try 'abiword --verbose', that might give us some more information
[14:06] <ppibburr> sudo apt-get install gstreamer
[14:06] <piotreek> erUSUL, so i am looking for place where this rules come up from
[14:06] <gpellis64> archman: i will give it a try alpha 4
[14:06] <ting> Hi
[14:06] <ting> how is everyone _
[14:06] <Slart> piotreek: check the rc.d folders.. it should be in there somewhere.. might be in the if.up scripts too
[14:06] <_maney> jrib: just uninstalled it :-(
[14:06] <tinman> inx-one: lol, i left EVERYTHIGN to default, i'm gonna reboot :s
[14:06] <archman> gpellis64: upgrading from gutsy?
[14:06] <inx-one> tinman: good luck :)
[14:06] <Slart> piotreek: here's a small script that clears firewall rules for you.. http://pikt.org/pikt/samples/iptables_reset_programs.cfg.html
[14:07] <rx-DONNiE> ill check it out later, and if that doesnt work
[14:07] <rx-DONNiE> ill reinstall
[14:07] <rambo3> ph8_, my first guess would be lirc
[14:07] <gpellis64> archman: no new install
[14:07] <rx-DONNiE> hoping it will preserve my dualboot config
[14:07] <piotreek> Slart, the problem is i can on top of start script clear iptables rules
[14:07] <ph8_> is that a program rambo3 ?
[14:07] <piotreek> but something is clearing it again and sets own rules
[14:08] <piotreek> Slart, i will look in rc.d scripts mayby something left
[14:08] <rambo3> !info lirc | ph8_
[14:08] <ubotu> ph8_: lirc (source: lirc): Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 353 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[14:08] <piotreek> THX
[14:08] <inx-one> bah, pidgin makes a lousy irc client...
[14:08]  * inx-one installs xchat on the live CD
[14:08] <Slart> piotreek: mm.. hang on.. there are scripts that run when your network interface is started..
[14:08] <_maney> jrib: any preference for abiword vs abiword-gnome?  they both seem to crash the same :-/
[14:09] <piotreek> Slart, i now /etc/network/scripts?
[14:09] <ph8_> rambo3: ah well the sound system is wired in and responds in itself to things like mute, it's the signals it might be passing back to the PC (through the sound out plug?) that i'm wondering about
[14:09] <soussou> hi
[14:09] <Slart> piotreek: nope.. in /etc/network/if-up.d and /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
[14:09] <piotreek> Slart, i really dont undestand policy of Ubuntu not having iptables script in init.d
[14:10] <piotreek> Slart, hold on i will check it
[14:10] <soussou> I have some screenlets running, but whenever I shut down my system, they don't reload at startup, how do I make sure that screenlets start running at startup?
[14:10] <Slart> piotreek: I'm not really in a position to second-guess their decisions.. I'm sure they have some kind of reason for doing things the way they do
[14:10] <jrib> _maney: I don't use either so I can't suggest one, but -gnome probably looks nicer if you are using gnome
[14:10] <Slart> =)
[14:11] <piotreek> Alleluja ;-)
[14:11] <jrib> _maney: for debugging purposes, go with simple abiword
[14:11] <dgjones> soussou, when you select the screenlet, there's a tick box to run it at startup
[14:11] <piotreek> Slart, i think i found it
[14:11] <piotreek> Slart, Guardod script is in  /etc/network/if-up.d
[14:11] <ArthurArchnix> Can I create a hidden symlink? I want to move my ./exaile directory to my data partition, then just put a symlink back to its normal location under /home/arthur
[14:12] <piotreek> Slart, but i removed guardod ;-)
[14:12] <ting> hi, i would like to ask if anyone know how to sort the installed programs by size _
[14:12] <ting> ?
[14:12] <rambo3> ph8_, i'll have to go with bunny and a pancake on that. what did you say there?
[14:12] <Slart> piotreek: yea.. things get left behind.. it's annoying
[14:12] <dooglus> ArthurArchnix: yes
[14:12] <Slart> piotreek: did you do apt-get remove --purge ? or just apt-get remove?
[14:13] <ting> hi, i would like to ask if anyone know how to sort the installed programs in the Synaptic Packages Manager by size ?
[14:13] <piotreek> Slart, not just apt-get remove
[14:13] <soussou> dgjones: thanks, found it
[14:13] <tinman> inx-one, didint work
[14:13] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus: Sweet.
[14:13] <Slart> piotreek: try --purge next time.. =)
[14:13] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus: thakns.
[14:13] <Azures> does unbuntu support crossfire edition card from ati ?
[14:14] <erUSUL> ArthurArchnix: yes; you can
[14:14] <piotreek> Slart ok i newbie to Ubuntu i used Fedora and RH based system for years
[14:14] <piotreek> but i want to try something new :D
[14:14] <Slart> piotreek: ah.. first time on a apt-based system?
[14:14] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus beat you to it erUSUL, but thanks.
[14:14] <piotreek> Slart, basically yes
[14:14] <ArthurArchnix> erUSUL: Confirmation never hurt anybody. :)
[14:14] <ArthurArchnix> Well, maybe jesus christ.
[14:14] <erUSUL> ArthurArchnix: ;)
[14:15] <_maney> jrib: abiword --verbose 2 => Aborted (core dumped)  (the useless splash image shows up, then the full window just barely appears, then winks out)
[14:15] <piotreek> Slart, i also found strange rules source ;-) it is /etc/rc.firewall
[14:15] <piotreek> trash from guardog :)
[14:16] <Slart> piotreek: huh? must be.. I don't have that one
[14:16] <dooglus> ArthurArchnix: whether the application will be happy reading its configuration through a symlink depends on the application, but making a hidden symlink isn't a problem
[14:16] <_maney> jrib: and that about uses up my time for chasing after the cause of this for noew, I'm afraid.  too many other things clamoring at me :-(
[14:16] <jworkman01> I want to be able to access my network like a folder on my desktop. How would I do this? I was able to do it easily in windows, it seems a bit harder here. maybe I'm missing something
[14:16] <erUSUL> piotreek: dpkg -S /etc/rc.firewall  should told you which package installed it
[14:17] <Slart> jworkman01: you mean a shared folder on another computer?
[14:17] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus: Well, we'll see. I've setup the symlink, and exaile is playing. I just want to be able to share the settings and album covers and ratings among the various nixes I setup.
[14:17] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, try connect to server - gives you an icon
[14:17] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus: And I don't share home partitions.
[14:17] <fx|RabBit> jworkman01: do you want to connect to a windows or a linux network?
[14:17] <jworkman01> Slart: no actually it is an ftp server. I run a website for my sim racing team and am constantly having to update folders and such on the server. Thought I could do it on here as well
[14:17] <dooglus> ArthurArchnix: it should be ok.  I've had problems in the past doing what you mention, but I don't remember the details.  I think maybe it was with Azureus
[14:18] <spaghetti_knife> I was wondering if there was a good way to reinstall my apt-get.
[14:18] <Slart> jworkman01: as thoreauputic said.. in the Places menu.. connect to network..
[14:18] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, try connect to server as I suggested
[14:18] <spaghetti_knife> I change software sources and talk to my isp and everything, but nothing's working.
[14:18] <ArthurArchnix> I'll keep my eye on it. Cheers dooglus
[14:18] <Slart> spaghetti_knife: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apt
[14:18] <Slart> spaghetti_knife: of course.. you need a working apt to do that =)
[14:18] <jworkman01> Slart: LOL! sorry guys, you were right, I was making more of it than it really was. OMG! I feel like an idiot right now
[14:18] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, you can also bookmark that in your file manager by the way, once set up
[14:19] <piotreek> Slart, spaghetti_knife  just chroot to system using ubuntu live CD ;-)
[14:19] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: LOL! Yes I did it, thank
[14:19] <jworkman01> thanks
[14:19] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, what is the problem with apt?
[14:19] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, no need - it's all new and different :)
[14:19] <Slart> jworkman01: nah.. you're far from idiot-status so far =)
[14:19] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: it doesn't install much of anything.
[14:19] <jworkman01> LOL!
[14:19] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, I mean no need to feel silly :)
[14:19] <piotreek> ok thanks guys ;-)
[14:20] <OleMoudi> hi!, I read 7.10 installer offers the option of encrypting partitions, I am currently in the "Prepare partitions" step of the installation and I don't see any option regarding that, do I have to enable something?
[14:20] <piotreek> i must gone now
[14:20] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I gotcha
[14:20] <piotreek> have a nice day!!
[14:20] <piotreek> bye
[14:20] <erUSUL> OleMoudi: i think that only the alternate installer has that option
[14:20] <Tu13es> doh, I upgraded network-manager to 0.7 but that pwnd my network devices.  I removed it thinking I could install the old version, but realized I can't install without a network connection!
[14:20] <spaghetti_knife> It's not even reinstalling itself.
[14:20] <spaghetti_knife> It can't download apt.
[14:20] <Slart> OleMoudi: I'm only guessing here.. but I think you have to use the alternate install if you want to do anything weird.. (encrypting boot partitions is considered weird in this context) =)
[14:20] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, if you want to see silliness, just hang around for three years like me - you will see pleenty of it ;p
[14:20] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife,  yeah but does it stop at 0 %, are ther broken, do you get error on apt-get
[14:21] <Bo^Dick> hi
[14:21] <OleMoudi> Slart how do I use alternate installer? is one of the other options when booting from the CD?
[14:21] <Slart> OleMoudi: it's a different cd altogether
[14:21] <erUSUL> !alternate | OleMoudi
[14:21] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Oh I'm sure! I know I have come in here and asked some questions that have probably made some people laugh
[14:21] <ubotu> OleMoudi: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[14:21] <Slart> OleMoudi: there is the live cd.. then there's the alternate cd..
[14:21] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: Reinstallation of apt is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[14:21] <CLC> / bye
[14:22] <OleMoudi> Slart I see, does that mean encryption support is still "unstable" and I should not rely heavily on it?
[14:22] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, there are no silly questions, just silly people who don't listen to answers :)
[14:22] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: That's right
[14:22] <Bo^Dick> i've got two ntfs partitions, on two physical drives, one has a windows installation and the other only some files. they are labelled /dev/sda1 and /dev/hdb1
[14:22] <instructor> hello everyone, I am teaching a class on irc. Can you say hi!??
[14:22] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, offcourse it will say that.
[14:22] <NailK> Hello. I want to use fglrx internal AGP support. How can I dectivate kernel agpgart support?
[14:22] <Slart> OleMoudi: nope.. the alternate install can do lots of things that the regular one can't.. install to raid, install and encrypt etc etc.. I guess they make the live cd as easy as possible for the unwashed masses =)
[14:22] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, well, actually... to be truthful, we do get some genuinely silly questions here as well :)
[14:23] <Bo^Dick> why does partimage crash when i attempt to make an image from the /dev/hdb1 only?
[14:23] <archman> hello school kickers
[14:23] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: so if that's not what i'm looking for, what am i looking for?
[14:23]  * Slart waves to instructor
[14:23] <boris__> hey
[14:23] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I'm new to linux and have had my share of confusion over the past few days but still, I have seen some questions that make me ask, WHAT?
[14:23] <boris__> i got a usb, and want to change its FileSystem. how do i do it ?
[14:23] <OleMoudi> Slart ok thanks a lot
[14:23] <boris__> change it to NTFS
[14:23] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, example "Help, my Ubuntu doesn't work! Help me?
[14:23] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[14:23] <Slart> boris__: try partition editor.. it does all kinds of neat stuff
[14:23] <Slart> !gparted | boris__
[14:23] <_Oz_> Good morning, #ubuntu friends.
[14:23] <ubotu> boris__: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[14:24] <archman> can ext3 partition on which is ubuntu installation be resized? Will resize mess anything?
[14:24] <Bo^Dick> has anyone here experience with partimage?
[14:24] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[14:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:24] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, if apt is not installing then reinstalation wont help couse program works, just that your configuration or some system config is not in order
[14:24] <archman> i know it haven't messed my ntfs...
[14:24] <Slart> jworkman01, thoreauputic: every now and then we get the "my ubuntu doesn't work and it's your fault.. I'll scream at you until you fix it" =)
[14:25] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: how do I put it in order?
[14:25] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: You should have seen me yesterday after upgrading to Hardy, OMG! i had one minor failure and reported the bug, right? anyway the questions that I have seen others ask about the exact same issue are so rediculous.
[14:25] <Isoplast> hey guys
[14:25] <jworkman01> Slart: Oh brother!
[14:25] <Isoplast> could someone give me some advice please?
[14:25] <thoreauputic> Slart, yes - that used to be called "Looking a gift horse in the mouth" I believe :)
[14:25] <Isoplast> i have no sound on my computer
[14:25] <Slart> archman: I think ext3 can be resized.. but as with all disk operations.. do backups.. I'm not kidding.. do backups
[14:25] <Bo^Dick> i'm trying to figure out why partimage crashes when i attempt to make an image of /dev/hdb1
[14:26] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, by explaning the problem , you have terminal output and logs for that
[14:26] <Slart> Isoplast: use sunscreen? =)
[14:26] <Bo^Dick> what happens is that partimage stalls at 0% progress
[14:26] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: i'll pastebin.
[14:26] <CreativeEmbassy> I did a complete removal of every mysql-server and client package, complete reinstall of everything, and I can't get mysql to start
[14:26] <Isoplast> i dont know what sunscreen is, sorry ^^ but im using ubuntu
[14:26] <CreativeEmbassy> are there mysql logs here somewhere?
[14:26] <Slart> Isoplast: no sound at all?
[14:26] <Slart> Isoplast: what kind of computer?
[14:26] <jworkman01> archman: You can definitely do a resize if you need to, but as stated earlier do a backup
[14:26] <Isoplast> normal desktop-pc
[14:27] <Bo^Dick> partimage would be so incredibly convenient if it worked well
[14:27] <archman> ok
[14:27] <Slart> Isoplast: run this in a terminal for me.. "sudo cat /proc/asound/cards"
[14:27] <Slart> Isoplast: tell me if it prints out anything at all..
[14:27] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m71d27877
[14:27] <CCyntrox> Hey, anyone have any idea why my script is not working...? I've added :~/scripts to the path, when I try to run it, it says permission denied - when I try to run it with sudo, it says command not found!
[14:27] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: it's pretty nondescript for me.
[14:28] <thoreauputic> CCyntrox, did you do a chmod +x on the script?
[14:28] <Slart> CCyntrox: what is the permissions on the script? did you chmod it?
[14:28] <Isoplast> Slart: yes it prints out:0 [CMI8738MC6     ]: CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6
[14:28] <Isoplast>                       C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6 (model 55) at 0xbc00, irq 17
[14:28] <Isoplast>  1 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[14:28] <Isoplast>                       HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 18
[14:28] <Blinkiz> I get tons of these error messages: "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57704/ .I have tried locale-gen and all that stuff. Nothing. Please help me get rid of ths?
[14:28] <Slart> Isoplast: don't paste stuff into the channel if it's more than one line
[14:28] <archman> jworkman01: already backed-up with remastersys. great tool...
[14:28] <CCyntrox> thoreauputic, Slart, no, doesn't it get set to execute permission by default?
[14:28] <Isoplast> oh sorry
[14:28] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, did you try sudo apt-get -f install
[14:28] <Slart> CCyntrox: nope
[14:28] <thoreauputic> CCyntrox, no :)
[14:29] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Here's one for you, Where can I get a web design software that resembles dreamweaver for linux?
[14:29] <CCyntrox> ah, that explains it =P Thanks, Slart and thoreauputic!
[14:29] <thoreauputic> CCyntrox, think about it - security?
[14:29] <jworkman01> archman: Good deal, you should be fine then
[14:29] <Bo^Dick> maybe i should try something more established than partimage
[14:29] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m9ab3142
[14:29] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. so alsa (the sound system in ubuntu) has found 2 soundcards.. both look like on board sound to me..HDA can be tricky to get to work
[14:29] <erat123> i just mounted a samba share.. i understand there's a auto connect feature, in case the share goes offline for a while.  does anyone know what this is called?
[14:29] <CCyntrox> now it works =)
[14:30] <Isoplast> i think its c-media
[14:30] <Isoplast> its a seperate soundcard
[14:30] <webb0rn> jwok - try scream - not sure if there is a WYSISYG for linux thats any good
[14:30] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, don't know dreamweaver - I have never used it. Try Bluefish or get iceape/seamonkey - it has a "composer" for wysiwyg html
[14:30] <Slart> Isoplast: ah.. so you've got an internal sound card (pci) and one built-in on the motherboard, right?
[14:30] <Isoplast> i think so ^^
[14:30] <boris__> so how do i make my USB NTFS ?
[14:30] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, there is a KDE version but I forget the name
[14:31] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I guess we're just going to have to kick Adobe's rear into gear and get them on the ball with a dreamweaver version for linux
[14:31] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. we'll try with the cmedia card... you're running regular ubuntu 32-bit, gutsy, right?
[14:31] <leon_> can somebody help, i cant login as root
[14:31] <thoreauputic> jworkman01,  bluefish is not wysiwyg, but it's nice :)
[14:31] <leon_> sudo su command not work :s
[14:31] <Isoplast> jep
[14:31] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, that looks ok. try installing some game. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install epiphany
[14:32] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, the "composer" used to be in the mozilla suite
[14:32] <archman> _leon_: try sudo -s
[14:32] <Slart> _leon_: don't log in as root.. if you really really have to, use sudo -i
[14:32] <Slart> !root | _leon_
[14:32] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, personally I just use an editor like emacs, jed or whatever...
[14:32] <ubotu> _leon_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:32] <boris__> !gparted
[14:32] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[14:32] <archman> Slart: what's the difference between those sudos?
[14:32] <_leon_> Slart, i need to active one driver
[14:33] <_leon_> i need to login
[14:33] <_leon_> but it cant
[14:33] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Yeah, I used to be able to do these sites without wysiwyg but I'm forgetful. LOL!
[14:33] <boris__> how do i make my USB's FileSystem NTFS  with gparted ?
[14:33] <Slart> archman: sudo -i is interactive afaik.. gives you a su shell
[14:33] <Slart> _leon_: use sudo. that's what it's for
[14:33] <_leon_> it cant
[14:33] <Slart> _leon_: what are you trying to do? modprobe?
[14:33] <archman> _leon_: sudo -s ?
[14:33] <Isoplast> hmmm
[14:34] <Slart> Isoplast: I'm googling for your soundcard..  be right there
[14:34] <Isoplast> maybe i should tell you, that it used to work usually
[14:34] <boris__> i got to create a new disklabel to make my USB Disk's FS NTFS ?
[14:34] <Bo^Dick> i've updated my system with sudo apt-get update and upgrade but yet my version of partimage is 0.6.4 rather than the latest 0.6.7, why?
[14:34] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: so far, it's been ignoring motherf&cking everything.
[14:34] <Slart> spaghetti_knife: easy with the language..
[14:35] <dupotter> !list
[14:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:35] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: for some reason when I did apt-get for bluefish, it installed the program but I also received a list of unknown media type in *.* various areas, all cd/dvd related
[14:35] <boris__> is it possible that a windoze comp cant read vfat ?
[14:35] <spaghetti_knife> Slart: I can't even substitute characters?
[14:35] <_leon_> anybody have the same problem with login on root ?
[14:35] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, did you delete or truncate /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[14:36] <fx|RabBit> can anybody pls tell me what a raid stride is (i know what raid is)?
[14:36] <Bo^Dick> i've got a question regarding up to date issues with ubuntu software
[14:36] <Bo^Dick> i've updated my system with sudo apt-get update and upgrade but yet my version of partimage is 0.6.4 rather than the latest 0.6.7, why??
[14:36] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I've modified it, probably haphazardly. Where can I copypaste a new version?
[14:36] <Tu13es> hm, now my wifi card doesn't show up regardless of what version network-manager is running
[14:37] <Tu13es> is there an easy way to get it working again?
[14:37] <rambo3> !source-o-matic | spaghetti_knife
[14:37] <ubotu> spaghetti_knife: source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[14:37] <brobostigon> Bo^Dick: apt-get upgrade can only update oyou to the version in the repos, that one may not be the newest version.
[14:37] <rambo3> whatever ubotu
[14:37] <Tu13es> it says the restricted driver is in use
[14:37] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, for wysiwyg, have a look at kompozer
[14:37] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, start synaptic and configure sources.
[14:37] <neoalex> hi, how can I get a touch screen working in ubuntu
[14:38] <nanothief> Hi, I'm having a problem with installing with synaptic, when installing ghc, I get the error W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-libc-dev_2.6.22-14.47_i386.deb
[14:38] <Bo^Dick> brobostigon: ok, how would you recommend me to sort it out?
[14:38] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. it seems that your soundcard should work in ubuntu.. it used to work before?
[14:38] <Tu13es> neoalex: look for wacom-tools or something lik that
[14:38] <Tu13es> neoalex: it's what I used for my tablet pc
[14:38] <Slart> Isoplast: have you tried all the settings in the volume manager?
[14:38] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Got it thanks! I'll leave you alone for a bit, looks like business is picking up for you answering other questions. LOL!
[14:38] <gandalfcome> Can anyone recommend a good sip provider? Or any other programm that can call to landlines and is not skype (no P2P)?
[14:38] <Slart> _leon_: what driver are you trying to install?
[14:38] <Isoplast> jep
[14:38] <Tu13es> gandalfcome: Gizmo Project?
[14:39] <Isoplast> and i've just started the audio manager
[14:39] <Slart> _leon_: are you following some kind of howto?
[14:39] <brobostigon> Bo^Dick: the version from the repos is fully tested, so stick with the verions of softwrae in the repos.
[14:39] <gandalfcome> Tu13es: and thats not p2p?
[14:39] <AWysis> Hi. any good wireless detection program besides knetworkmanager or kwifimanager ?
[14:39] <Isoplast> it shows me that autodetection is on
[14:39] <fx|RabBit> gandalfcome: mabe teamspeak but you need a server for that
[14:39] <jworkman01> !gizmo project
[14:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo project - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:39] <bastl> how can one add a custom location to the menu?
[14:39] <Bo^Dick> brobostigon: the problem is that i can't get that version to work well
[14:39] <julio_pe> anybody hire know a patch to see preview of images on firefox? http://doktorseven.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/firefox-preview-images/
[14:39] <Bo^Dick> brobostigon: it simply crashes
[14:39] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, I used to practically live here - but the constant questions assuming that I knew the answer made me a bit jaded :) I've had a bit of a break...
[14:39] <gandalfcome> Tu13es: my university doesn't like p2p because its easily confused with illegal downloading
[14:40] <julio_pe> this link is brooked
 I have a question about how swapping works; is there a way to turn off swapping for a specific device?  (speaking specifically of mounted encrypted volumes)
[14:40] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. try running this "dmesg | grep -i error"  and "dmesg | grep -i fail".. see if you get anything that mentions sound, alsa, cmedia or similar
[14:40] <Tu13es> gandalfcome: I can't remember of Gizmo is P2P
[14:40] <brobostigon> Bo^Dick: yu could manually install the newest one, but no stricltly recommended or tested to work properly.
[14:40] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Who know's maybe i'll catch on to the inner workings of linux and be able to help out someday! LOL! not in the near future though!
[14:40] <edthefox> hey, i just installed clamav and the clamtk virus scanner, now... How do update the antivirus definitions??
[14:40] <Slart> Isoplast: audio manager?
[14:40] <Bo^Dick> brobostigon: ok, thanks
[14:41] <eni191> hi, how can i stop wineserver? (My CPU is always at 100% after ies4linux) i tried sudo kill <pid>, ik tried sudo killall wineserver, but this doesn't work.
[14:41] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, it kind of creeps up on you - then suddenly everyone assumes you are a guru even if you are not ;p
[14:41] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: LMAO!
[14:42] <fx|RabBit> hehehe
[14:42] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, all it takes is answering enough questions, and everyone assumes you know everything *grin*
[14:42] <papito_> guys im not able to make the mic work :S
[14:42] <Isoplast> hmmm
[14:42] <Isoplast> not it shows nothing
[14:42] <jworkman01> papito: I have the same issue, I have sound but no mic, can't figure that one out either
[14:42] <Isoplast> something with security module
[14:42] <Isoplast> but nothing with audio
[14:43] <papito_> jworkman01, uugh :(
[14:43] <Slart> Isoplast: hmm.. what is the audio manager you mentioned?
[14:43] <julio_pe> anybody hire know a program to preview imagens in firefox?
[14:43] <Isoplast> i've searched for "audio" in the Deskbar Applet
[14:43] <Slart> eni191: sudo pkill -9 wine .. or wineserver -k
[14:43] <Isoplast> and it sais: "start audio"
[14:44] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I've configured my software sources, searched for the best server, and changed servers.
[14:44] <spaghetti_knife> It's still dling at 10 kB/s.
[14:44] <lukasz> I would like to know what is the 12 hr time format?
[14:44] <legend2440> _maney did you reinstall abiword?
[14:44] <Slart> deskbar applet? .. ah the search thingy?
[14:45] <julio_pe> guys..
[14:45] <Isoplast> jep
[14:45] <lukasz> I made the workaround :)
[14:45] <eni191> thank you! Works
[14:45] <lukasz> Hopefully there will be a better one soon :)
[14:45] <brobostigon> lukasz: wikipedia and or google will tell you hwat the 12hr time format is.
[14:45] <[CroX]> I can't seem to be able to get any resolution above 800x600, despite having 1280x800 as the only listed resolution in xorg.conf. Anyone care to help sort this out?
[14:45] <julio_pe> is there a mod to preview imagens on firefox? When we need send a photo for example, it only list tha names
[14:46] <lukasz> thnx brobostigon
[14:46] <foobar_> hihi, I wonder if there is a matrix terminal screensaver
[14:46] <revilodraw> is there any way to make the yext 'applications   places    system' in the top utility bar white instead of black?
[14:46] <Frijolie> does anyone know how to fix when none of your windows have the maximize, minimize, and close buttons or any window borders?
[14:46] <Juhaz> [CroX], read /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see why it's discarding other modes.
[14:46] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: CroX nvidia or ati?
[14:46] <revilodraw> frijolie: have you restarted x?
[14:46] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: at least I can probably reinstall apt. and it's going better than before.
[14:46] <Isoplast> CroX??? ... whats that?
[14:47] <fx|RabBit> oops sry hehe
[14:47] <Frijolie> revilodraw: this is a fresh install and it does it everytime I boot
[14:47] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, don't do that
[14:47] <Slart> Isoplast: ok, run this in a terminal.. aplay /dev/urandom .. you might want to lower the volume first..
[14:47] <spaghetti_knife> what do I do, then, rambo3? I want it to run faster than 10 kB/s.
[14:47] <revilodraw> frijolie:hmmm try another theme
[14:47] <celoserpa> Does anyone around own a dv6000 series HP laptop or any HP laptop that has the QuickPlay "feature"?
[14:47] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: have you tried the settings in gnome-volume-control ?
[14:47] <spaghetti_knife> And thank you for your help.
[14:47] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, install first aptitude
[14:47] <spaghetti_knife> Thank you a lot.
[14:48] <spaghetti_knife> ?
[14:48] <Frijolie> revilodraw: just tried that, didn't fix it
[14:48] <[CroX]> Juhaz: The log doesn't say anything about rejecting anything, it seems to load alright.
[14:48] <Slart> Isoplast: it should play regular noise... like tv-static
[14:48] <spaghetti_knife> apt-get install first-aptitude?
[14:48] <Isoplast> dont hear anything
[14:48] <revilodraw> Frijolie: dont know then
[14:48] <fx|RabBit> (03:47:54 PM) fx|RabBit: Isoplast: have you tried the settings in gnome-volume-control ?
[14:48] <Isoplast> jep
[14:48] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. can you pastebin the output from "aplay /dev/urandom -L"
[14:48] <Slart> !paste | Isoplast
[14:48] <ubotu> Isoplast: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:49] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, maybe its already installed try : sudo aptitude update
[14:49] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: also went to file/change device in there?
[14:49] <Frijolie> revilodraw: something to do with metacity?
[14:49] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: Once it's done dling software source info.
[14:49] <[CroX]> fx|RabBit: Neither as far as i can tell. It's a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V5515
[14:50] <Frijolie> revilodraw: right now the window is stuck up in the top left corner of my screen without any window borders and 3/4ths the menus dont display anything..
[14:50] <soussou> [08:41] [Notice] -sweet_Man- sir 9alab 3la chi zab 9ad tramtak ;)
[14:50] <lukasz> brb
[14:50] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, other downloads from internet works fine?
[14:50] <archman> Frijolie: i had that problem. Mine was that graphic drivers werent appropriate
[14:51] <Isoplast> yes
[14:51] <fx|RabBit> CroX: if linux does not recognize the capabilities of your monitor you need to manually set a value for hsync and vrefresh in xorg.conf
[14:51] <Isoplast> everything
[14:51] <archman> Frijolie: try reinstalling drivers and then compiz-fusion...
[14:51] <Bo^Dick> when i start partimage with "sudo partimage", how can i figure out its process id?
[14:51] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: how many devices do you get listed if go to file/change device?
[14:51] <Slart> Isoplast: yes, please
[14:51] <Isoplast> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57706/
[14:51] <lukasz> The problem I am having now is whenever I go to System/Administration and put it in 12 hr I still get the 24 hr clock :(
[14:52] <Slart> Isoplast: thanks.. looking
[14:52] <Isoplast> 3
[14:52] <lukasz> Its on the login Window
[14:52] <lukasz> hmm
[14:52] <fx|RabBit> Slart:  here we go
[14:53] <lukasz> I keep wondering how to fix that
[14:53] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast please write the names of who you are talking to infront of your answers;)
[14:53] <Isoplast> ah
[14:53] <Isoplast> got it
[14:53] <Isoplast> thanks guys
[14:53] <Isoplast> the problam was simple
[14:53] <Isoplast> in windows
[14:53] <fx|RabBit> what was it?
[14:53] <FloodBot2> Isoplast: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:53] <Isoplast> i have two sound cards
[14:53] <revilodraw> anyway to make the text in the panel white?
[14:54] <Isoplast> in windows only one of them works
[14:54] <rambo3> !enter | Isoplast
[14:54] <ubotu> Isoplast: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:54] <Slart> Isoplast: you fixed it? what was it?
[14:54] <Isoplast> i just had to change the plug into the other soundcard
[14:54] <fx|RabBit> (03:53:55 PM) Isoplast: i have two sound cards
[14:54] <Slart> Isoplast: oh my.. =).. well.. congrats =)
[14:54] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: although that second souncard should still work
[14:55] <Isoplast> :D
[14:55] <Isoplast> yeah maybe
[14:55] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, to direct your answer to the right nick, use tab completion on the nickname
[14:55] <Trae> anyone know of something like "Front Page" for Linux?
[14:55] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: in that case you would have to change your outputdevice in system/preferences/sound
[14:55] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, otherwise your answers get lost in the flow
[14:55] <fx|RabBit> agree @ thoreauputic
[14:55] <Isoplast> fx|RabBit: but as long as i can hear something i think i dont need the other soundcard ^^
[14:56] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: as you believe:)
[14:56] <thoreauputic> Isoplast,  for example thore <tab> etc  :)
[14:56] <Slart> !default
[14:56] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[14:56] <kilrae> i am having difficulty with WPA on my laptop
[14:56] <Isoplast> thanks anywas to you guys!
[14:56] <Slart> Isoplast: you're welcome
[14:56] <avaloncio> Can anyone help me? When i make right-clic on the upper panel bar, it only shows me two options, Help and About Panels. How can I get whole menu?
[14:56] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: no problem:)
 like that?
[14:57] <_leon_> i cant login as root, comand sudo su
[14:57] <_leon_> not work
[14:57] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, first few letters, then hit ab
[14:57] <_leon_> can somebody help?
[14:57] <thoreauputic> *tab
[14:57] <Isoplast> thoreauputic:  a ... geniously!
[14:57] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: Did you install the gnome's lockdown thingy?
[14:57] <thoreauputic> Isoplast,  :)
[14:57] <fx|RabBit> hehe Isoplast  type the first few letters of a name like for example fx then press the tab key
[14:57] <fx|RabBit> ->autocompletion
[14:57] <thoreauputic> fx|RabBit, he got it :)
[14:57] <avaloncio> Odd-rationale, I dont know what are you talking about
[14:58] <_maney> legend2440: did.  trace shows it blowing up in something to do with fonts, so I'm going to try restarting X on the chance that something didn't get updated on the fly... as soon as I have time
[14:58] <Odd-rationale> !tab | :)
[14:58] <ubotu> :): You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:58] <Isoplast> thoreauputic:  and can i highlight the things that get written to me too?
[14:58] <webb0rn> anyone have any experience installing and using IRCD-IRC2 on an ubuntu server?
[14:58] <webb0rn> im not having much success
[14:58] <kilrae> running 7.10, it finds the router, detects WPA, asks me for a key, then asks me for a key, then asks... etc
[14:58] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, what client are you using?
[14:58] <fx|RabBit> thoreauputic: didnt see it, wass two finger typing hjehe
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[14:58] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: ok. umm. what it you right-click the menu bar? what do you get?
[14:58] <fx|RabBit> _leon_: what error do you get when you use sudo?
[14:59] <Bo^Dick> was this a good idea? sudo wget -c http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6212&package_id=6269
[14:59] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, try xchat if you aren't using it - pretty easy and better than pidgin for IRC, for example
[14:59] <avaloncio> i get a menu with the last two options, Help and About, notthing else
[14:59] <fx|RabBit> thoreauputic: naaw hehe
[14:59] <Isoplast> thoreauputic: im using pidgin
[14:59] <avaloncio> I am on 7.10
[14:59] <thoreauputic> Isoplast,  install xchat
[14:59] <lukasz> Anyone know how to change the time to 12 hr
[15:00] <lukasz> In GDM
[15:00] <chafka> i have installed broadcom 4311 firmware from ubuntu 7.10 and its working i found some network but i cant connect ?? any help??
[15:00] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, much better for IRC - look in add/remove applications
[15:00] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: did you ever have it before?
[15:00] <[CroX]> How can I get a higher resolution than 800x600. Nothing I do seem to increase this limit.
[15:00] <Frogzoo> lukasz: right click clock - > prefs
[15:01] <_leon_> fx|RabBit , are you look screanshot
[15:01] <avaloncio> the whole menu? yes. One day I lookd and there only were two options
[15:01] <Bo^Dick> it was from this site i was inspired to use that command, http://www.partimage.org/Download
[15:01] <Frogzoo> CroX: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[15:01] <fx|RabBit> _leon_: as far as i can see exactly nothing happens??
[15:01] <[CroX]> Frogzoo: Running. I tried vesa before, I'll try vga now.
[15:01] <fx|RabBit> Crox i gave you an answer on that further up
[15:02] <Bo^Dick> i need help please
[15:02] <thoreauputic> !ask
[15:02] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:02] <[CroX]> fx|RabBit: That i must set the hsync manually?
[15:02] <lukasz> I have utc disabled
[15:02] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: Try going to System --> Administration menu. Do you have any program with the something like the name "lockdown" (I forgot the exact name :( )
[15:02] <lukasz> It just login time to 12 hr
[15:02] <fx|RabBit> CroX: (03:51:00 PM) fx|RabBit: CroX: if linux does not recognize the capabilities of your monitor you need to manually set a value for hsync and vrefresh in xorg.conf
[15:02] <TruQuiNy> Hello everyone :)
[15:03] <Frogzoo> CroX: use the driver that matches your card, not vesa/vga
[15:03] <lukasz> I tried SystemAdministration/Login window
[15:03] <Bo^Dick> how am i supposed to deal with this install? http://www.partimage.org/Download
[15:03] <thoreauputic> !hello | TruQuiNy
[15:03] <ubotu> TruQuiNy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:03] <[CroX]> Frogzoo: I can't find no information about what card I have. Only generic mumbo-jumbo.
[15:03] <[CroX]> Frogzoo:  SiS Mirage 3+ Graphics, 64-256 MB shared memory
[15:04] <fx|RabBit> whch wont provide a user interface like nevidia...
[15:04] <legend2440> _maney can you check in your home dir for AbiwordSuite directory and inside should be preferences file
[15:04] <Frogzoo> [CroX]: well see if there's a driver to match
[15:04] <Bo^Dick> i'm just trying to figure out if this line (contructed by me) was good or not, sudo wget -c http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6212&package_id=6269
[15:04] <Bo^Dick> all derived from http://www.partimage.org/Download
[15:04] <lukasz> Frogzoo, the time on Login Window Id like is to 12 hr
[15:04] <effi> thoreauputic,  hey
[15:04] <thoreauputic> Bo^Dick, try quoting the URL
[15:05] <Bo^Dick> ok
[15:05] <effi> thoreauputic, now i have x.chat
[15:05] <Odd-rationale> Bo^Dick: do you need sudo?
[15:05] <legend2440> _maney if you check toward bottom of file should say posx= and posy=
[15:05] <thoreauputic> effi, and does it highlight your m=nick now ?
[15:05] <legend2440> _maney what are the numbers in there?
[15:05] <thoreauputic> *nick
[15:05] <effi> thoreauputic,  is there any alternative from pidgin for icq?
[15:05] <Bo^Dick> Odd-rationale: don't know for sure
[15:06] <Bo^Dick> i just can't see that i really got version 0.6.7
[15:06] <thoreauputic> effi, pidgin does icq just fine - don't you like it for that?
[15:06] <effi> thoreauputic,  but maybe there is a better choice :D
[15:07] <effi> thoreauputic,  something that makes it just better, or looks better ;)
[15:07] <Bo^Dick> sorry for bothering you but i'm all confused now
[15:07] <avaloncio> Odd-rationale, there no look to be what you say
[15:07] <thoreauputic> effi, try a search on icq in add/remove applications and see what pops up then :)
[15:07] <lukasz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4421813#post4421813
[15:07] <Bo^Dick> when i start partimage it's still 0.6.4
[15:07] <fx|RabBit> effi: bitchx
[15:07] <fx|RabBit> hehe
[15:07] <Bo^Dick> and i got no error message when i installed 0.6.7
[15:08] <thoreauputic> fx|RabBit, aaargh!
[15:08] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: hmm. ok don't know then. sorry :(
[15:08] <_FReeZ> Hi, tell me something funny about GNU/Linux please
[15:08] <fx|RabBit> hehehe
[15:08] <_leon_> fx|RabBit , are you look screanshot
[15:08] <[CroX]> Frogzoo: Alright, I found a "sis" option when reconfiguring xserver-xorg but even though I choose that and 1280x800 I still get 800x600 as maximum.
[15:08] <effi> fx|RabBit, is that a good tool?
[15:08] <avaloncio> thanks
[15:08] <ting> hi everybody, i would like to ask if anyone know how to sort the installed programs in the Synaptic Packages Manager by size ?
[15:08] <fx|RabBit> _leon_:  yes i have but i cant help you on that as i can only see exactly nothing happening... sry
[15:08] <thoreauputic> effi, don't get bitchx - you won't enjoy it :)
[15:09] <effi> thoreauputic, why? :D
[15:09] <fx|RabBit> effi: it is a no gui client, mabe try xchat
[15:09] <_FReeZ> fx|RabBit, rofl
[15:09] <thoreauputic> effi, unless you like the command line that is :)
[15:09] <mohamed> hi guys anybody there to find me a solution to fix my external usb hard disk
[15:09] <thoreauputic> fx|RabBit, effi is on xchat for IRC now :)
[15:09] <mavi-> dont get bitchx anyway as irssi is sooo much better for commandline
[15:09] <_FReeZ> BitchX is pretty awesome, execute it from shell, don't stay with *buntu $hit, stop being a lamer
[15:09] <fx|RabBit> ah! rofl well hes well off then
[15:10] <_maney> legend2440: both are "0"
[15:10] <thoreauputic> mavi-, +1 but I don't thin effi is reqady for irssi
[15:10] <xGeek> irssi is the way to go. BitchX is out dated.
[15:10] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: leave the channel please XD
[15:10] <_FReeZ> lol
[15:10] <Bo^Dick> question, i followed the instructions here http://www.partimage.org/Download and now i wonder if i'm supposed to do something extra to really obtain 0.6.7 when starting the program
[15:10] <_maney> legend2440: both are "0"
[15:10] <_FReeZ> do you know what's my native GNU/Linux distribution, fx|RabBit ? =)
[15:10] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, angry ops are watching you :)
[15:10] <effi> thoreauputic,  is kopete good?
[15:11] <legend2440> _maney should be posx='34' and posy='143' and flags='2'
[15:11] <_FReeZ> thoreauputic, thank you for a hint
[15:11] <thoreauputic> effi, yes, it's good - although I never use it really
[15:11] <lukasz> well i wait in forums for a while heh
[15:11] <lukasz> :)
[15:12] <sipior> Bo^Dick: what does "which partimage" say?
[15:12] <legend2440> _maney maybe thats why its just opening for a second
[15:12] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: surprise me?
[15:12] <_maney> legend2440: just edited the prefs - no change
[15:12] <Bo^Dick> sipior: it still says it's 0.6.4
[15:12] <thoreauputic> effi, you can try all kinds of stuff - uninstall them if you don't like them :)
[15:12] <mohamed> anybody there
[15:12] <sipior> Bo^Dick: which path does it give?
[15:12] <legend2440> _maney ok well good luck
[15:12] <_FReeZ> effi, one should see the how it looks, http://www.lynucs.org/?bitchx
[15:12] <Frogzoo> [CroX]: probly cos you're actually running the vga driver - /var/log/Xorg.0.log will say
[15:12] <mohamed> i want to fix my external hard disk usb one
[15:12] <Elko> I need a simple irc server (not unrealircd), any suggestions?
[15:12] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I'll be back shortly, I have to reboot
[15:13] <_maney> legend2440: deleted the .AbiSuite directory - no change
[15:13] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, reboot? heresy!
[15:13] <sipior> Bo^Dick: and is that the path you installed 0.6.7 into?
[15:13] <Frogzoo> Elko: apt-cache search ircd
[15:13] <Bo^Dick> sipior: how to i display that?
[15:13] <sipior> Bo^Dick: like i said: which partimage
[15:13] <_FReeZ> fx|RabBit, well, forget about it. Angry ops are spying me and the name of my distribution is unpolite to say here I guess
[15:13] <l815> hey all
[15:14] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: i guess you can dare but you should do it NOW unless we wanna get chased for spamming offtopic:P
[15:14] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, that wasn't what the angry op was worried about :)
[15:14] <_maney> legend2440: interesting, the new profile it created has all three of those zero
[15:14] <Bo^Dick> sipior: the command wget did it all, i didn't do anything
[15:14] <[CroX]> Frogzoo: Yeah, the logs says it's using some failsafe conf.
[15:14] <CreativeEmbassy> do you know why mysql won't start?
[15:14] <l815> is there a programming channel for linux?
[15:14] <_FReeZ> thoreauputic, oh, really? What was it, then?
[15:14] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I was gone for a while, and I returned to find that my xchat was flashing. What did you say?
[15:14] <sipior> Bo^Dick: how about typing "which partimage" into a terminal and seeing what it says?
[15:14] <legend2440> _maney i'm stumped. very strange
[15:14] <Bo^Dick> sipior: ah, sorry
[15:14] <brobostigon> _FReeZ: your bad languadge
[15:14] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you...
[15:14] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, other downloads from internet works fine?
[15:15] <l815> do the conversion functions in c++ work in linux that work in windows?
[15:15] <CreativeEmbassy>  sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[15:15] <CreativeEmbassy>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                   [fail]
[15:15] <fx|RabBit> thoreauputic: hahahaha
[15:15] <soundray> thoreauputic: ...and you're shy of the paperwork
[15:15] <_FReeZ> brobostigon thoreauputic thx guys, but what could be wrong with my language?
[15:15] <Bo^Dick> sipior: usr/sbin/partimage
[15:15] <thoreauputic> soundray, exactly :)
[15:15] <Slart> l815: afaik c++ is a standard.. as long as you stay away from the win32 api it should be the same
[15:15] <brobostigon> _FReeZ: using bad words
[15:16] <sipior> Bo^Dick: and you installed the later version (0.6.7) of partimage by doing what?
[15:16] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I am returned! LOL!
[15:16] <l815> Slart, so things like atio() would work?
[15:16] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: they work excellently.
[15:16] <l815> *atoi()
[15:16] <_FReeZ> brobostigon, hmmf, what are the good words? =)
[15:16] <spaghetti_knife> Now it's, like, 1 B/s.
[15:16] <Bo^Dick> sipior: by following the instructions here, http://www.partimage.org/Download
[15:16] <Slart> l815: I would say yes
[15:16] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3:
[15:16] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: It's really slow.
[15:16] <l815> Slart, thanks
[15:16] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, it was a while ago - forget it... well, no, remember it and watch your step :)
[15:16] <_FReeZ> Who decides whether a word is good or bad?
[15:16] <Dagon> What is the easiest way t0 fix grub error 22?
[15:16] <l815> any recommendations for a compiler alternative to Dev c++ or VC++?
[15:16] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: he who has admin rights hehe
[15:16] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, now you are just trolling
[15:16] <arturh> gcc
[15:16] <l815> i'm using geany and it's pretty good, but wanna scope the alternatives
[15:17] <soundray> _FReeZ: ask in #ubuntu-ops please
[15:17] <spaghetti_knife> _FReeZ: The christian conspiracy.
[15:17] <fx|RabBit> hahah
[15:17] <fx|RabBit> n1
[15:17] <sipior> Bo^Dick: those aren't really instructions for building it, just grabbing the source code via wget
[15:17] <Slart> l815: try anjuta... or a plain text editor.. emacs or vi if you like torturing yourself.. =)
[15:17] <_FReeZ> ok, #$@#@$# chrisitians // is that better?
[15:17] <Bo^Dick> sipior: and my brain thought it suggested this line sudo wget -c http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6212&package_id=6269
[15:17] <Slart> !programming
[15:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:17] <Slart> !editors
[15:17] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[15:17] <l815> Slart haha okay I'll check them out
[15:17] <thoreauputic> !coc | _FReeZ
[15:17] <ubotu> _FReeZ: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[15:17] <Slart> !code
[15:17] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[15:17] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: please avoide saying insulting things about religions in this channel, or you will be removed.
[15:17] <_maney> legend2440: well, if I don't get interrupted I'm going to restart the desktop... be back soon
[15:18] <tritium> avoid*
[15:18] <Bo^Dick> sipior: are you really sure about that?
[15:18] <fx|RabBit> ok here i got one: i have a raid 5 with 4X 500 gig that should result in 1,46 tb effective disk space but i only get 1,36 why is that??
[15:18] <sipior> Bo^Dick: yeah, you'll need to extract the files from the tarball by running "tar jxvf <filename>.bz2"
[15:18] <legend2440> _maney ok good luck
[15:18] <Bo^Dick> sipior: cite: "You should download partimage with wget. That's a very simple and reliable download tool. Just type "wget -c address" in a console. If there is a problem with the download, just run the same command again with option -c, and it will continue."
[15:18] <thoreauputic> !offtopic
[15:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:18] <jleza> #alegra
[15:18] <effi> thoreauputic, do you know any good games for ubuntu?
[15:19] <jworkman01> All the hatred in here today, not even safe on the internet anymore. What next, world war? LOL!
[15:19] <erUSUL> fx|RabBit: 5% reserved for root on ext3 ??
[15:19] <sipior> Bo^Dick: you didn't literally type "wget -c address" in a console, though, right?
[15:19] <thoreauputic> effi,  frozen bubble  :)
[15:19] <Bo^Dick> sipior: nope
[15:19] <thoreauputic> effi, I'm not a gamer by the way :)
[15:19] <spaghetti_knife> jworkman01: who's hating?
[15:19] <soundray> fx|RabBit: because advertised drive capacity is "raw", meaning that some of it is lost. Also note the difference between binary and  decimal multipliers
[15:19] <sipior> Bo^Dick: so you have a file named blah.tar.bz2, right?
[15:20] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i interpreted "adress" to be the link to the partimage-0.6.7.tar.bz2 file
[15:20] <jworkman01> spaghetti_knife: I was just making a not so funny joke. LOL! with freeze up there ranting the way he was
[15:20] <legend2440> ting: did you get answer about how to sort installed programs by size?
[15:20] <fx|RabBit> erUSUL: i thougth so too that is why i did sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/md0
[15:20] <sipior> Bo^Dick: yep
[15:20] <effi> thoreauputic, just because i thought you know a lot about ubuntu ^^ and most of the normal games are not supported
[15:20] <fx|RabBit> soundray: that is why it is 1,46 not 1,5
[15:20] <Slart> fx|RabBit: are the drives really 500GB ? not 500000 MB?
[15:20] <spaghetti_knife> tritium: Was what I was saying really insulting?
[15:20] <sipior> Bo^Dick: so that is just an archive of the software, which you'll need to extract and compile
[15:20] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: you know what you said
[15:20] <effi> thoreauputic, is there any homepage where they show the games?
[15:20] <Bo^Dick> sipior: then i misunderstood the instructions fatally
[15:20] <fx|RabBit> Slart: well precisely they are some 476 or so but called 500 blah you know the old story...
[15:20] <sipior> Bo^Dick: btw, do you really need the latest version? I've used 0.6.4 recently, and it seemed okay
[15:20] <soundray> fx|RabBit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
[15:20] <franco> !it
[15:20] <thoreauputic> !games
[15:20] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:21] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[15:21] <sipior> Bo^Dick: no worries, easily fixed
[15:21] <brobostigon> effi: packages.ubuntu.com
[15:21] <Rgem> How do I past by command?
[15:21] <Rgem> paste
[15:21] <Slart> fx|RabBit: yea.. I figure that's where the error is
[15:21] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i'm having serious problems with 0.6.4
[15:21] <DarkSpirit221> Hi, is there any GUI using macro recording tool?
[15:21] <erUSUL> fx|RabBit: also depending on the fs used you get different utilizable space...
[15:21] <Trashlord> is there a program for ubuntu, to convert FLV files to AVI?
[15:21] <fx|RabBit> Slart: nope im still missing 100gig
[15:21] <effi> thanks!
[15:21] <fx|RabBit> erUSUL: it is ext3 on lvm2
[15:21] <Trashlord> or FLV to MPEG
[15:21] <Rgem> how do I paste by command?
[15:22] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Thanks for the tip on Kompozer, that will work just fine. plus I can use the other tips you gave me to refresh my memory on code!
[15:22] <thoreauputic> effi, no worries :)
[15:22] <Slart> Trashlord: mencoder can do almost anything.. perhaps even flv
[15:22] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i've got two ntfs partitions on two physical hds /dev/sda1 and /dev/hdb1 respectively
[15:22] <sipior> Bo^Dick: okay, then you'll first need to unpack the archive by typing "tar jxvf partimage-0.6.7.tar.bz2"
[15:22] <june_> use mencoder
[15:22] <soundray> Trashlord: anything you can play with mplayer can be converted with mencoder. Also note the factoid:
[15:22] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, yes, and kompozer has a code tab option IIRC
[15:22] <soundray> !info clive | Trashlord
[15:22] <ubotu> trashlord: clive (source: clive): Video extraction utility for YouTube and Google Video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 31 kB, installed size 172 kB
[15:22] <Trashlord> nice, thanks guys
[15:23] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Yeah I saw that, I just did the updates to my teams website solely in code, just to see if I still could.. Woohoo it worked.
[15:23] <fx|RabBit> soundray: Slart i am aware of that i should have 1464.84375 gb but i only have 1360
[15:23] <Bo^Dick> sipior: an error message occured
[15:23] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, heheh
[15:23] <jworkman01> throeauputic: not sure what the coc says about advertising my site but you can check it out if you want.
[15:23] <DarkSpirit221> Is there any GUI using macro recording tool? I want it to save my mouse movements and clicks, then loop them over and over again.
[15:23] <sipior> Bo^Dick: you're not going to make me ask what it says, are you? :-)
[15:23] <Slart> fx|RabBit: well.. 4 drives with 500.000.000.000 bytes each (=465 GB) makes for a raid with 1396 GB of space.. which is 1.36 TB
[15:23] <Bo^Dick> sipior: maybe i should just delete the bz2 file and give it up (don't even know if 0.6.7 will work better than the current one)
[15:24] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, probably comes under "off-topic" :)
[15:24] <Bo^Dick> sipior: "function 'open' failed"
[15:24] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, but it isn't a coc issue :)
[15:24] <LoLLo> if i cut skype and move it into another folder it doesn't work !! " the son process isn't found " ... !!!!
[15:24] <sipior> Bo^Dick: well, you might try just grabbing the 0.6.6 iso that'
[15:24] <Bo^Dick> sipior: "the file or directory does not exist"
[15:24] <l815> anyone use code::blocks in ubuntu?
[15:24] <sipior> Bo^Dick: that's available at the same page
[15:24] <LoLLo> pajaman ... i don't know but i've deleted the Adobe folder of the desktop and then it doesn't run anymore !!! i just wanna move that folders in a right position and don't have them in thedesktop
[15:24] <sipior> Bo^Dick: simply burn that, no compilation to trouble with
[15:25] <fx|RabBit> Slart: gosh i miscalculated-.-
[15:25] <fx|RabBit> sry to bother*blush*
[15:25] <Bo^Dick> sipior: the worst thing of all is that the download page made me believe that it was compiled and ready to be downloaded and installed
[15:25] <legend2440> l815: i have used code:blocks for c++ now i use netbeans
[15:25] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: is there a whisper option that i could just shoot it to you?
[15:25] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i was seriously double crossed
[15:25] <sipior> Bo^Dick: well, they say very clearly that that is a source-code tarball
[15:26] <Slart> fx|RabBit: no worries.. I'll just put a small mark here on my paper right next to your name.. your highschool math teacher will be calling you in a couple of days or so ;)
[15:26] <fx|RabBit> hahahaha
[15:26] <l815> legend2440 netbeans works on linux?
[15:26] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, well you can do a /query thoreauputic if you wish
[15:26] <sipior> Bo^Dick: try the iso, burn it to a cd, and you should be sorted
[15:26] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i strongly got the idea that the compile stuff was optional
[15:26] <sipior> Bo^Dick: most definitely not optional
[15:26] <chana_> Anyone know how/why Window border of an emerald theme seems to have an abstract picture a bit transparent? I want to make it solid.
[15:26] <legend2440> l815: yes you can use it for developing java, ruby c++
[15:26] <fx|RabBit> Slart: as long as its highscool thats  ok by me but pls dont tell my university profs
[15:27] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: are we clear?
[15:27] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: Why is my apt still running really slowly?
[15:27] <l815> legend2440 thanks
[15:27] <legend2440> l815 yw
[15:27] <spaghetti_knife> tritium: Sure. No god talk. But why were you the only one to voice offense?
[15:27] <Bo^Dick> sipior: many thanks for your help, i'll prolly try out some other imaging tool (that doesn't hang during operation)
[15:27] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: And what should I do again with apt?
[15:27] <LoLLo> i've deleted the Adobe folder of the desktop and then it doesn't run anymore !!! i just wanna move that folders in a right position and don't have them in thedesktop
[15:27] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: I'm an op, so I'm keyed into looking out for others.
[15:27] <sipior> Bo^Dick: no trouble, good luck to you
[15:28] <jworkman01> because tritium holds the key
[15:28] <soundray> Bo^Dick: just curious: what imaging tool have you tried?
[15:28] <robdeman> hi all - I installed the openldap server and phpldapadmin ... but what is the default Login DN + password for the initial login?
[15:28] <Bo^Dick> soundray: partimage only (version 0.6.4)
[15:29] <soundray> Bo^Dick: okay... you may have to look into dd
[15:29] <chana_> Anyone know how/why Window border of an emerald theme seems to have an abstract picture a bit transparent? I want to make it solid.
[15:29] <Bo^Dick> soundray: nope
[15:29] <Bo^Dick> soundray: is it better?
[15:29] <spaghetti_knife> tritium: So it has nothing to do with feeling personally insulted re: religion?
[15:29] <mino> Hi :) my apt-get have a big problem, he always start downloading some packages if install something, but sometimes at some packages he stops downloading(freezes) and only after a few minutes he go on... all other processes installation and so on goes fine... i switched 5x times the mirrors, but it doesnt help
[15:29] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: no
[15:29] <Slart> fx|RabBit: well.. I'll let you go for this time.. ;)
[15:29] <spaghetti_knife> tritium: Okay. I'll take that on faith.
[15:29] <soundray> Bo^Dick: it's very low-level, but there are tutorials and ubuntuforums discussions about using it for your purpose
[15:30] <bartmon> Hey. Does anyone know if flashplugin-nonfree will be updated soon to fix compatibility with Opera?
[15:30] <Bo^Dick> soundray: sounds very instresting
[15:30] <fx|RabBit> Slart: thank you so much buddy what you wanna drink?
[15:30] <Slart> bartmon: I hope they don't mess with it more.. it's finally working again on firefox
[15:30] <soundray> Bo^Dick: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159182 and stfw ;)
[15:30] <sipior> Bo^Dick: what exactly were you planning on doing with imaging, btw?
[15:30] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, do you have a proxy ? also disable ipv6 .
[15:31] <chana_> Anyone know how/why Window border of an emerald theme seems to have an abstract picture a bit transparent? I want to make it solid.
[15:31] <Slart> fx|RabBit: does that work on your university profs? =) never did try that
[15:31] <bartmon> Slart: Yeah, I'm happy that at least ff works. But Opera's been broken ever since the breakage began. :(
[15:31] <Slart> bartmon: it uses the same plugin?
[15:31] <bartmon> Slart: Yes.
[15:32] <sipior> chana_: i think there's an #emerald, the folks there might be better equipped to answer your question
[15:32] <fx|RabBit> Slart: didnt dare yet either but would be worth a try gg
[15:32] <chana_> k,thx
[15:32] <Slart> bartmon: I always thought opera had some kind of built-in flash support... can't you install flash manually? at least until they fix it?
[15:33] <_FReeZ> Hello, would you like to tell me what's the difference between trundle and roll, please?
[15:33] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: not unless you tell us what linux you use:P
[15:33] <tritium> !offtopic | _FReeZ
[15:33] <ubotu> _FReeZ: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:34] <_FReeZ> I need it to better understand the ubuntu
[15:34] <bartmon> Slart: I think so... Are you implying that the flash plugin from adobe's website is newer than the one in ubuntu's repos?
[15:34] <soulfury> anyone have a fix for the network drops issue I've seen 100+ posts on the forums about with ubuntu 7.10?
[15:34] <Shinjin> What file do I edit to change my applications menu?
[15:34] <soulfury> or at least some idea of where to continue trouble shooting?
[15:34] <Slart> bartmon: nah... that was just one solution flying around when it didn't work in firefox..thought it might be worth a try
[15:35] <Slart> Shinjin: there is a gui-editor in the system editor, afaik
[15:35] <chana_> sipior> Nobody in the Emerald channel.
[15:35] <Slart> Shinjin: I don't know which file that stores the settings though.
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> gconf-editor
[15:35] <sipior> chana_:  ah well
[15:35] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I'm not using a proxy for anything, and i have no idea how to disable ipv6, or how to determine I'm even using it.
[15:35] <soundray> Shinjin: System-Preference-Main Menu (following up on Slart's reply)
[15:35] <fx|RabBit> Slart: speaking of it do you know how i can fix a flasplayer crashing in firefox whenever opened more then 10 tabs or so problem?
[15:36] <rambo3> !ipv6 | spaghetti_knife,
[15:36] <ubotu> spaghetti_knife,: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[15:36] <soundray> fx|RabBit: open fewer tabs
[15:36] <tremby> anyone have an nvidia 880GT?
[15:36] <fx|RabBit> Slart: i cant reinstall that cr.. cos no 64 version avail at adobe's...
[15:36] <soundray> fx|RabBit: (scnr)
[15:36] <tremby> 8800GT that is
[15:36] <Shinjin> ok, I'm on Xubuntu, would it be the same?
[15:36] <Slart> fx|RabBit: nah.. the current state of flash in firefox (and perhaps elsewhere) is shameful.. I have no solutions for that
[15:36] <chana_> Anyone know how/why Window border of an emerald theme seems to have an abstract picture a bit transparent? I want to make it solid.
[15:36] <fx|RabBit> soundray:  i got average 3 windows with up to 40 tabs open:p
[15:36] <_FReeZ> Idiot Fuck suck dick lick piss ass shit cunt bitch cock boob - Free mind, free speech
[15:36] <soundray> Shinjin: no
[15:36] <Slart> bye bye _FReeZ_
[15:36] <fx|RabBit> Slart: so i just got to get accustomed to that rrrrrrr
[15:36] <tato> #list
[15:37] <fx|RabBit> hrhrhr
[15:37] <sipior> junior high must've just let out
[15:37] <Slart> fx|RabBit: perhaps adobe will get their act together and release a better version.. perhaps we'll get good weather this summer.. noone really knows =/
[15:37] <soulfury> heh
[15:37] <soulfury> i'd say theres alot of that in a chan this popular
[15:37] <Shinjin> I know how to open the menu editor but it has the ---include--- and I can't edit that.
[15:38] <fx|RabBit> Slart: lets talk to alqaida have them persuade them...
[15:38] <Slart> Shinjin: ---include--- ?
[15:38] <ting> legend2440 i didnt get an answer
[15:39] <soundray> Shinjin: I'm not too familiar with xfce, but I think it includes some system-wide entries that you can modify only with sudo. Perhaps  ask in #xubuntu?
[15:39] <Shinjin> start: Yeah thats what it says where all the application groups should be
[15:39] <tritium> fx|RabBit: please avoid that kind of talk here
[15:39] <Shinjin> Okay
[15:39] <ting> hi everybody, i would like to ask if anyone know how to sort the installed programs in the Synaptic Packages Manager by size ?
[15:39] <fx|RabBit> tritium: aye sir...
[15:39] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: does ipv6 have any real uses right now?
[15:39] <Slart> fx|RabBit: yea.. because those guys have had such great success in convincing the world so far.. =).. but this is !ot.. and flammable.. let's not go there
[15:39] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: when should I reenable ipv6?
[15:39] <Bo^Dick> soundray: am i supposed to find "dd" in the synaptic package manager?
[15:39] <spaghetti_knife> when I get a new computer?
[15:40] <soundray> Bo^Dick: it's a standard system tool -- you have it already
[15:40] <fx|RabBit> Slart: ok i admit i got a provolking style of humor sometimes, PLEASE channel police stay in the stables;)
[15:40] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: do you think ipv6 is the thing that's causing me trouble?
[15:40] <ting> or is any kink of way to list all the installed packages sorted by size without using the Sypnatic Packages Manager ?
[15:40] <soundray> Bo^Dick: comes with the coreutils package
[15:40] <Bo^Dick> soundray: oh, how come other software like ghost and partimage even exist for linux if dd is built in to do the job?
[15:40] <Slart> Shinjin: I'm not sure where you find this ---include--- thingy. I have nothing like it anywhere in my editor.. can you make a screenshot and post it somewhere?
[15:41] <rowdy> I am running gutsy with compiz on dell dimension 9150 with a ATO Radeon X300 card. My X restarts whenever i try to lock my screen
[15:41] <sipior> Bo^Dick: because dd likes to write every single bit out to disk, which takes forever on a large disk
[15:41] <coldboot> My system is using the wrong sound card. It's using the onboard sound instead of the sound blaster I installed. It used to work, changed for what I believe to be no reason. Any ideas?
[15:41] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, maybe also install netselect
[15:41] <soundray> Bo^Dick: because dd is very low-level. Many tools like that have optional and exchangeable front-ends
[15:41] <sipior> Bo^Dick: if most of that space is empty, you waste a great deal of time
[15:41] <rambo3> !info netselect | spaghetti_knife
[15:41] <ubotu> spaghetti_knife: netselect (source: netselect): Choose the fastest server automatically. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.ds1-10 (gutsy), package size 21 kB, installed size 96 kB
[15:41] <Slart> coldboot: asoundconf can set default soundcard
[15:41] <soulfury> coldboot: easiest way is to disable your onboard card in the bios =)
[15:41] <Bo^Dick> sipior: oops, that explains everything :(
[15:42] <Bo^Dick> wonder if ghostzilla is good
[15:42] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, you should enable it when they change the internet to ipv6. in 5, 10 ,15 year
[15:42] <rambo3> s
[15:42] <soulfury> hah yeah
[15:42] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I see.
[15:42] <spaghetti_knife> Thank you.
[15:42] <sipior> Bo^Dick: i'd try booting from the partimage CD image first
[15:42] <coldboot> Slart: Is that setting permament?
[15:43] <spaghetti_knife> So this ipv6 was just an attempt for early deployment of ipv6?
[15:43] <Slart> coldboot: afaik, yes
[15:43] <spaghetti_knife> Or at least to facilitate it?
[15:43] <coldboot> Slart: Do you type in the exact same string that appears in asoundconf list?
[15:43] <sipior> Bo^Dick: what exactly are you trying to get done, if you don't mind my asking?
[15:43] <PriceChild> ipv6 being enabled on ubuntu should not cause problems unless you've a dodgy network setup
[15:43] <Slart> coldboot: there is a switch to list soundcards you can use
[15:43] <Bo^Dick> sipior: make an image of my ntfs partition
[15:44] <sipior> Bo^Dick: well, obviously :) but as a backup? are you cloning another box?
[15:44] <coldboot> coldboot: asoundconf list does it, but when I set the default card to "gibberish", it has the same effect as if I set to it "CA0106"
[15:44] <coldboot> Slart: asoundconf list does it, but when I set the default card to "gibberish", it has the same effect as if I set to it "CA0106"
[15:44] <Bo^Dick> sipior: its for backup purpose in this particular case
[15:45] <Slart> coldboot: hmm.. and it doesn't affect the soundsystem? sound is still playing through the wrong card?
[15:45] <coldboot> Slart: Yeah
[15:45] <coldboot> Slart: A stupid program...
[15:45] <coldboot> Slart: Doesn't tell you if it did anything.
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, I do like dd for imaging partitions.. increase the buffer size to speed it up.
[15:45] <cyme> any1 know how to copy folders to wine folder
[15:45] <Slart> coldboot: you could try restarting alsa "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart"
[15:45] <bartmon> Does anyone know of a good guide how to fix hibernation in 7.10? I have a laptop with ATI graphics, using fglrx that the Restricted driver manager installs.
[15:46] <coldboot> Slart: I only have alsa-utils in there.
[15:46] <waylandbill> cyme: usually wine folder is located at ~/.wine. Copy under there.
[15:46] <Bo^Dick> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is that i've got a lot of free space on the drive
[15:46] <Slart> coldboot: try restarting that then
[15:46] <coldboot> Slart: Didn't help
[15:46] <cyme> im noob so what is the command for copy
[15:46] <bartmon> cyme: Wine stores its files under ~/.wine/drive_c/
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[15:46] <sipior> Bo^Dick: ah, ntfs? ntfs is only supported experimentally on partimage. try installing ntfsprogs
[15:46] <soundray> bartmon: the fix involves using the ati driver instead of  fglrx. The latter is notorious for causing suspend/hibernation problems
[15:47] <sipior> Bo^Dick: there's a lovely little app in there called ntfsclone, which is what you want
[15:47] <Slart> coldboot: hmm.. this is odd.. I get the same behaviour here.. let me check the fine manual.. see if it offers any hints
[15:48] <noroot> how is ubuntu so great with hardware detection... just plugged in my bluetooth and it works like a charm. cant believe i got stuck with windows xp thinking its better with hardware detection..
[15:48] <waylandbill> cyme: use the file manager to copy the files. You can use the toggle button to get a text-based location bar to manually enter into the .wine folder
[15:48] <bartmon> soundray: Hm, but without fglrx I lose powersaving features that fglrx provides. I tried using rovclock to underclock this particular card before but I always get corruption.
[15:48] <Bo^Dick> sipior: there is one particularly inconsistent thing about partimage, it's that it stalls while attempting to pack one ntfs partition and does not while attempting another
[15:48] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I've blacklisted ipv6, but if anything, the dl's are running slower than ever.
[15:48] <sipior> Bo^Dick: hence "experimental" :-)
[15:48] <Citizen> lo
[15:48] <rambo3> did you install netselect ?
[15:49] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, did you install netselect ?
[15:49] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: sudo apt-get install netselect? Yes.
[15:49] <Bo^Dick> ntfsclone sounds so intresting
[15:50] <Citizen> I have downloaded and 'try' to instal uubntu 3 tims. Same problem everytime, then i boot ubuntu i got a error "boot error"
[15:50] <soundray> bartmon: there is a relevant bug report, #134819. Also see the ATI release notes: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.25.18.html (substitute your version)
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, See also g4l   ghost4linux
[15:50] <NarbeH> Jack_Sparrow: what is ghost4linux ?
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Let me see if I can find a link..   bootable cd...
[15:51] <Citizen> I get to the ubuntu menu and all
[15:51] <Slart> hmm.. why is nautilus using 1.5 GB memory.. seems a bit excessive... bad nautilus.. bad bad nautilus
[15:51] <sipior> Bo^Dick: see that, you're practically swimming in options!
[15:51] <coldboot> Nautilus is still crap.
[15:51] <cyme> yeah i can reach the folder but if i put my folder there it doesnt excist in the same way as notepad is "note: i use ubuntu ultimate edition"
[15:51] <coldboot> It doesn't even support ctrl+shift+click to make a new sublist of selections that doesn't clobber your existing selection.
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
[15:51] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, sudo apt-get install netselect-apt
[15:51] <Slart> coldboot: mm.. nautilus seems like a good reason to not use gnome in the future..
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <FloodBot2> daba: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:52] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, and then run sudo netselect-apt
[15:52] <danbhfive> Citizen: sounds like you havea  grub problem, can you use the livecd?
[15:52] <coldboot> Slart: I still find there's nothing as good as Windows Explorer, which is awful, because Windows Explorer is also crap
[15:52] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, wait
[15:52] <coldboot> Slart: Seriously, most software is crap, it's very annoying.
[15:52] <Slart> coldboot: tried thunar?
[15:53] <coldboot> Slart: Nah, maybe I'll have a look given the suggestion from a fellow Nautilus hater. =)
[15:53] <rambo3> don't  it lists packages for debian and not ubuntu. so dont
[15:53] <waylandbill> Citizen: did you try getting an md5sum of the downloaded iso? There is an md5sum executable available for windows if that's all you have now
[15:53] <Citizen> Some kind person want to help me?
[15:53] <Slart> !info thunar
[15:53] <ubotu> thunar (source: thunar): File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-6ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 208 kB, installed size 640 kB
[15:53] <Citizen> hOW DO I GET THE MD5 SUM IN WIN
[15:53] <coldboot> Slart: Oh, XFCE's xffm
[15:53] <Citizen> caps sry
[15:53] <thoreauputic> !CAPS
[15:53] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[15:53] <Slart> Citizen: download a md5sum program
[15:53] <Pici> !verify | Citizen
[15:53] <ubotu> Citizen: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[15:53] <coldboot> Slart: It has a disjoint set of features that are better than Nautilus, but it's still crap.
[15:54] <Slart> Citizen: and seriously.. why ask here? we use ubuntu.. find some windows people to ask windows questions too
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Citizen, nero has a free md5 checker for windows
[15:54] <coldboot> Slart: If xffm and Nautilus merged features, and tossed out their crappy parts, they would be really good.
[15:54] <Citizen> Thanks!
[15:54] <Bo^Dick> i'm downloading the file g4l-v0.23.devel.tar.gz right now
[15:54] <danbhfive> Slart: he is trying to install ubuntu...
[15:54] <coldboot> Slart: I'm editing my ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf and it's still not working.
[15:54] <rambo3> !bug 157938
[15:54] <bartmon> soundray: Thanks for the info!
[15:55] <ting> hi ??
[15:55] <Slart> coldboot: or someone could realise that nautilus is one of the apps that most people see as "linux".. it's sad really
[15:55] <coldboot> Slart: The thing is, Windows people tend not to know anything, and don't talk in IRC.
[15:55] <coldboot> Slart: That's use, it's bad public relations. ;)
[15:55] <ting> there is anyonw that could help me ? I am trying to list all the installed packages that i have sorted by size
[15:55] <coldboot> Slart: s/use/true
[15:55] <ting> but i dont know how to do it
[15:55] <Bo^Dick> would apt-get install g4l-v0.23.devel.tar.gz do the job for me?
[15:55] <ting> i would like to remove some of them
[15:55] <coldboot> I'm going to disable my stupid on-board sound
[15:56] <waylandbill> Slart: don't drive someone away for not knowing to md5sum in windows.. nothing positive comes from that.
[15:56] <Slart> Citizen: the channel mates here are correct.. sorry for being snappy
[15:56] <sipior> Bo^Dick: no, i'm afraid not
[15:56] <Slart> Citizen: google for md5sum, there are a few small applications out there..
[15:56] <Bo^Dick> coldboot: what soundcard?
[15:57] <Bo^Dick> sipior: clink'n'go then?
[15:57] <soundray> ting: listing by installed size takes some fairly advanced scripting. You could look at the archive sizes: 'cd /var/cache/apt/archives ; ls -srS'
[15:57] <Bo^Dick> sipior: feels unnecessary to burn it to a cd
[15:57] <sipior> Bo^Dick: try "tar zxvf <filename>", in the directory in which the file resides
[15:58] <Bo^Dick> sipior: that only unzips it doesn't it
[15:58] <sipior> Bo^Dick: yep
[15:59] <te> hola
[15:59] <Bo^Dick> sipior: then i see some files "makecd" and stuff
[15:59] <te> can anyone help me view network printers in 7.10?
[15:59] <sipior> Bo^Dick: there's a g4l iso there as well, perhaps you should download that and burn it to a cd
[15:59] <Bo^Dick> sipior: what if i just wanna install it on the fly?
[15:59] <te> i changed my cups.conf to allow me to "browse"
[15:59] <te> but i have no idea what else to change
[15:59] <te> any help is greatly appreciated
[15:59] <te> im trying to spread ubuntu to the rest of the office
[15:59] <te> so you will be doing a great service
[16:00] <ting> thanks soundray
[16:00] <ting> i am gonna check it
[16:00] <waylandbill> te: is it a printer that supports IPP?
[16:00] <Konner> hi
[16:00] <sipior> Bo^Dick: if the disks you want to image are in use, problems may arise
[16:00] <DShepherd> anyone know where I can find a helloworld program that I can use to teaching compiling?
[16:00] <te> waylandbill: im not sure
[16:00] <Bo^Dick> sipior: it isn't in use
[16:01] <Citizen> I got the correct md5 sum. but how do I know its the correct one for the ubuntu iso
[16:01] <te> waylandbill: how would i figure that out?
[16:01] <soundray> ting: if you do want to go down the more advanced route, the file /var/lib/dpkg/status holds the raw information you need.
[16:01] <Bo^Dick> sipior: maybe g4l is a bootup tool only?
[16:01] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i thought it was a software like partimage
[16:01] <sipior> Bo^Dick: then you'll have to follow the build instructions, unmount the partitions you want to image, and run g4l on them
[16:02] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i need to install g4l prior to that i guess
[16:02] <waylandbill> te: manufacturer's specs would tell. I assume this is an ethernet printer as opposed to one that is being shared by another computer?
[16:02] <LoLLo> how can i remove an icon manually from the application menu ? ( i've uninstalled adobe but i can see the icon !!! )
[16:02] <ting> soundray ummm thanks, do you know where i can put some request for the next version of ubuntu ?? I would like to ask if it is possible to add the size sorting for the next version of Synaptic Packages Manager
[16:02] <soundray> !bugs | ting, you can file a wishlist bug
[16:02] <ubotu> ting, you can file a wishlist bug: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[16:03] <waylandbill> LoLLo: right click the main menu and select edit menus
[16:03] <sipior> Bo^Dick: honestly, much, much simpler to grab the iso and burn it. Really.
[16:03] <Slart> Citizen: the md5 sums for the cd's should be listed somewhere on the ubuntu site
[16:03] <Slart> !md5
[16:03] <Citizen> Again, I got the md5 sum frm the ISO file I downloaded, how do I know its the correct one?
[16:03] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[16:03] <ting> thanks very much guys
[16:03] <Bo^Dick> sipior: allright
[16:03] <ting> i will do it for sure
[16:03] <Citizen> Thanks
[16:03] <mrunagi> i think i accidently removed my installed lang pakages
[16:04] <LoLLo> way thanks !!!!
[16:04] <mrunagi> how can i find out
[16:04] <soundray> ting: still here?
[16:05] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: what are you looking up?
[16:05] <ting> soundray: yes
[16:05] <soundray> ting: it's dead easy in synaptic
[16:05] <te> waylandbill: it's an ethernet printer for sure
[16:05] <vee_> hi all
[16:05] <Slart> Citizen: here are the md5sums https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:05] <LoLLo> !iso
[16:05] <te> waylandbill: the cupsd.conf is setup by default to only listen for printers locally i believe
[16:05] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[16:05] <ting> soundray:  what exactly is dead in synaptic ? sorting by size ?
[16:06] <vee_> Can I send email from a PHP script if I don't have a mail server installed(using 7.10)?
[16:06] <drini> I tried to install msttcorefonts, I got lots of errors about some files not being found. Now I can't REMOVE or PURGE the package
[16:06] <Frijolie> anyone know how to fix your window decorations? I have no minimize, maximize, or close buttions on any of my windows and they're all stuck in the upper left corner of my screen
[16:06] <soundray> ting: in Settings-Preferences-Columns and Fonts, make sure it displays the Installed Size. Then select All in the left part of the window and click on Size in the displayed list. Your window has to be large enough, so you can see the Size column
[16:06] <danbhfive> vee_: I dont think so, but someone might know better.  I personally had trouble with that
[16:06] <drini> since if I run apt-ger remove msttcorefonts, it will still try to DOWNLOAD the fonts
[16:06] <thebloggu> i have a computer with no sound here with ubuntu 7.10
[16:06] <drini> any clue how to go about that?
[16:07] <waylandbill> te: it most likely supports ipp then. You just need to know the ip address. many models this can be gotten from the menu by using the buttons/control panel on the printer itself. You could also look at your router's dns client table if you have one.
[16:07] <hischild> Frijolie, alt f2 --> compiz --replace
[16:07] <ting> soundray: really ???
[16:07] <drini> could I get apt to use the fonts from the windows partition?
[16:07] <thebloggu> already tries to install latest alsa
[16:07] <thebloggu> tried*
[16:07] <Frijolie> hischild: i'm not running compiz
[16:07] <ting> soundray:  ummm i am gonna check it
[16:07] <te> waylandbill: thanks for your help
[16:07] <soundray> ting: no need for a bug report ;)
[16:07] <ting> hehe
[16:07] <ting> true
[16:07] <Skitt> vee_: you can specify a mailserver in the php.ini. this doesn't need to be a local one
[16:07] <hischild> Frijolie, that's the only time i can imagine it being gone ...
[16:07] <vee_> danbhfive hi, yea i cant a script to work on it, that works just fine on my other server - whats a better server to install postfix or exim4?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Frijolie, metacity --replace
[16:08] <Jerusalem420> hello all
[16:08] <Isoplast> hey
[16:08] <Jerusalem420> i'm running GG
[16:08] <Jerusalem420> and a couple of weeks my usb just stopped working
[16:08] <vee_> Skitt so just pick the current one given by my ISP
[16:08]  * soundray ponders that occasionally, well-made GUIs can have an edge over command-line tools
[16:08] <Jerusalem420> works fine in windbloze
[16:08] <effi> could someone explain me how to install freeciv on ubuntu?
[16:08] <mrunagi> i think i accidently removed my installed lang pakages is this going to be a problm?
[16:08] <Skitt> vee_:  if your isp allows that, why not
[16:08] <ting> soundray: done!!!! Thanks very much
[16:09] <Pici> mrunagi: It may be. Why not just re-install them?
[16:09] <Jerusalem420> how i can 'restart' or 'jump start' the usb system?
[16:09] <mrunagi> because the updated lang packs are broken and lock up your pc Pici
[16:09] <vee_> Skitt IM gonna go edit the ini file and try it out
[16:09] <Frijolie> YES! the metacity --replace worked!
[16:09] <effi> or at least how to install programs on ubuntu?
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Frijolie, There is also a gtk something replace but I could not remember that one..
[16:10] <mrunagi> maybe its just a kde problem
[16:10] <ceil420> !nvidia
[16:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:10] <Pici> mrunagi: Currently thats the only fix for the Kubuntu issue.
[16:10] <Frijolie> I'm also getting this error whenever I boot up "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAF110: Gnome_Panel_TrashAPP"
[16:10] <soundray> !software > effi, please read the private message from ubotu
[16:10] <waylandbill> vee_: if you are going to use mail in scripting, especially mixing php with something else, you could look into masqmail, so you can equate to using sendmail. Would allow easy transfer to other sites if needed.
[16:10] <soundray> !info freeciv-server > effi
[16:10] <thoreauputic> effi, go to add/remove programs, search there, apply - that's it really
[16:10] <drini> effi: have you run apt-get install freeciv-client-gtk  freeciv-server
[16:10] <vee_> waylandbill is that in the repository?
[16:11] <Jerusalem420> anyone know anything about USB stopping functioning in gusty?
[16:11] <thoreauputic> effi, or use the synaptic package manager under System -Admin
[16:11] <effi> thoreauputic, no, i've downloaded the files from their homepage, since it dont download the files with the add/remove program
[16:11] <Jerusalem420> anyone anyone? 1 2 3 testing testing. anyone?
[16:11] <soundray> !patience | Jerusalem420
[16:11] <hischild> no1
[16:11] <linunut> Jerusalem420: Patience, young padawan.
[16:11] <ubotu> Jerusalem420: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:11] <waylandbill> !info masqmail
[16:11] <ubotu> masqmail (source: masqmail): A mailer for hosts without permanent internet connection. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2.21-1.2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 138 kB, installed size 548 kB
[16:11] <sipior> Jerusalem420: really? that's obnoxious.
[16:11] <thoreauputic> effi, freeciv server is in the repos as far as I know
[16:11] <linunut> Jerusalem420: All you have to do is right click the usb drive on your deskop and go to unmount.
[16:11] <jeffMASTERflex> Jerusalem420: there was an update today that was a patch to possibly fix this problem
[16:12] <vee_> thanx
[16:12] <thoreauputic> effi, enable all the possibilities - all the repos, reload, search again
[16:12] <Jerusalem420> thank you jeff
[16:12] <thoreauputic> effi, downloading from the web is a last resort - most things are in the repositories
[16:12] <thoreauputic> !repos > effi
[16:12]  * Jerusalem420 takes a dose of !patience
[16:13] <effi> im confused
[16:13] <thoreauputic> effi, how are you confused ?
[16:14] <soundray> effi: shall we go to #ubuntu-classroom and take you through step-by-step?
[16:14] <Jerusalem420> do you know what a repository is effi?
[16:14] <effi> thoreauputic, what is repos? and what do i have to do, when i have already downlaoded the files from the homepage
[16:14] <thoreauputic> effi, most Ubuntu software is installed from Ubuntu repositories
[16:14] <CorruptTerrorist> hey all
[16:14] <hischild> ah man no way not you again :p
[16:14] <thoreauputic> repos | effi
[16:15] <thoreauputic> !repos | effi
[16:15] <ubotu> effi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[16:15] <neverblue> morning
[16:16] <effi> thoreauputic, but i cant download it through synaptiv
[16:16] <soundray> thoreauputic, effi: #ubuntu-classroom ?
[16:16] <linunut> effi: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[16:16] <thoreauputic> soundray, OK
[16:17] <soundray> effi: can you /join #ubuntu-classroom
[16:17] <despai> hello
[16:17] <neoalex> what can I use to calibrate a touch screen
[16:17] <CorruptTerrorist> anyone help me with an nvidia error?
[16:17] <CorruptTerrorist> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57708/
[16:18] <Jerusalem420> jeff, how can i get the computer to update itself ?
[16:18] <ehird`> Jerusalem420: stare at it until it decides to
[16:19] <ehird`> wishing hopefully might help too
[16:19] <ehird`> but they don't generally make many decisions for themselves, computers.
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerusalem420, apt-get update  then apt-get upgrade
[16:19] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, you need the kernel sources for your kernel
[16:19] <vee_> Skitt in the php.ini file: do I adjust the part that says ;sendmail_path = ?
[16:19] <CorruptTerrorist> anyone help me with an nvidia error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57708/ - it says that i need the kernel source code
[16:19] <lukasz> hey guys :)
[16:19] <jeffMASTERflex> Jerusalem420: update manager should start itself on its own when it senses an update. you can, however, just open up synaptic, reload then install the upgrades
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[16:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[16:19] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, download the kernel source package
[16:19] <jovitosg> hi people. how can i put the mac bar in ubuntu?
[16:20] <CorruptTerrorist> utkan0s, cant find them
[16:20] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, type uname -a in a shell and tell me the kernel
[16:20] <despai> anybody knows why if i do: strncpy(argu[0],argv[0],strlen(argu)); bzero(argv[0], strlen(argv[0])); strncpy(argv[0],"test",4);   and then i type "ps u" on a shell it returns:  despai   15351 90.0  0.0   1732   364 pts/1    R+   17:13   0:01 testSSH_AGENT_PID=25229
[16:20] <neverblue> jovian, define 'mac bar'
[16:20] <netcrash> Hello , Trying to install hearbeat-2 but crm_mon doesn't get installed ?
[16:20] <vee_> he prolly means the dock
[16:20] <gomoran> Hello, I have problems with the cisco-vpn-client on a 7.10 machine. The client mostly hangs after “Initializing the VPN connection”.
[16:20] <ehird`> despai: because it will have been started with the argument of that
[16:20] <CorruptTerrorist> Linux joe 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:20] <ehird`> dunno why.
[16:20] <Lifeisfunny> Is there a file to install that will edit jpeg height through the command line terminal?
[16:20] <utkan0s> thanks CorruptTerrorist
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jovitosg, get cairo-dosck  and use the mac os bar option
[16:21] <despai> ?
[16:21] <Slart> Lifeisfunny: imagemagick
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> cairo-dock
[16:21] <jeffMASTERflex> when i think mac bar, i think that application bar at the top. when i think "dock" i think of, well, a dock
[16:21] <Slart> Lifeisfunny: it does almost anything to images.. all in console
[16:21] <Slart> !info imagemagick
[16:21] <ubotu> imagemagick (source: imagemagick): Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 722 kB, installed size 3156 kB
[16:21] <Skitt> vee_: maybe i made a mistace. i'm pretty sure in windows is a way to use a external mailserver, dunno if that works for linux, too
[16:22] <vee_> Skitt what line was it in windows? if you rememeber
[16:23] <Lifeisfunny> Slart,  yeah, I have imagemagick loaded.
[16:23] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[16:23] <neverblue> Jack_Sparrow, how do you get cairo-dock exactly, dont see it in the repos, nor on getdeb.net ?
[16:24] <jovitosg> thanks jack_sparrow. but i find this on the internet?
[16:25] <CorruptTerrorist> utkan0s, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[16:25] <jovitosg> or in the terminal?
[16:26] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/2.6.20.15.14
[16:26] <vee_> Skitt http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57709/
[16:26] <lastelement1> is there a firewire to usb adapter anywhere out there?
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.uploadimages.com/myalbum/49738    Make sure this is waht you want..
[16:27] <CorruptTerrorist> utkan0s, what do i do with the source?
[16:27] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, just install it
[16:27] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, you dont need to configure anything, nvidia drivers just need to use it
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jovitosg, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock          has info.. I have a couple debs for it somewhere..
[16:29] <jovitosg> yes jack. this is what i want
[16:29] <Skitt> vee_: the first 4 lines are the lines i meant ... but win32 only, i didnt remember that
[16:29] <vee_> Skitt yea, kinda stinks.... think im going to have to install postfix
[16:30] <jovitosg> thanks for help me
[16:30] <jovitosg> thanks for help me jack_sparrow
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> jovitosg, np   THere are premade debs out there for gutsy..
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Let me see if I can find them
[16:32] <Bo^Dick> i like ntfsclone!
[16:32] <Bo^Dick> i just made a test on an ntfs drive
[16:32] <Bo^Dick> lovely
[16:32] <Bo^Dick> finally a tool i can trust (that does not hang in the middle of everything)
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> jovitosg, https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724&release_id=14108       cairo-dock   debs....
[16:34] <vee_> take it easy guys... =)
[16:35] <thoreauputic> inx-live, hi :)
[16:35] <inx-live> thoreauputic: Hello
[16:35] <thoreauputic> I see you got somewhere at east :)
[16:35] <jovitosg> thanks for help me again jack_sparrow
[16:35] <thoreauputic> *least
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick,  What link did you use to get that?
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jovitosg, no problem..
[16:36] <flipmode> How do I convert avi to iso to burn a dvd in ubuntu?
[16:36] <jovitosg> the name of this software, is mac os bar?
[16:36] <Jack_Sparrow> jovitosg, Software is cairo dock.. download it at https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724&release_id=14108
[16:37] <CorruptTerrorist> utkan0s, how do i specify the kernel source?
[16:37] <tiago> oi
[16:37] <matju> how do i enable composed characters (dead-keys and such) in Kate? I am running plain Ubuntu (GNOME-centric)
[16:37] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, hmm?
[16:38] <moyogo> matju: are you using a keyboard layout with deadkeys?
[16:38] <flipmode> How do I convert avi to iso to burn a dvd in ubuntu?
[16:38] <CorruptTerrorist> utkan0s, i need to tell the installer the source of the kernel
[16:38] <jeffMASTERflex> CorruptTerrorist: devede
[16:39] <jeffMASTERflex> sorry CorruptTerrorist meant for flipmode
[16:39] <bazhang> flipmode: devede does not do it?
[16:39] <jeffMASTERflex> flipmode: devede
[16:39] <Bo^Dick> if i'd really wanna be hardcore i'd find out how to copy and restore boot sectors of a drive too
[16:39] <flipmode> bazhang: what does?
[16:39] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: you should probably post the actual error you are running into
[16:39] <Bo^Dick> boot sectors aren't filesystem dependent or are they?
[16:39] <bazhang> !info devede
[16:39] <ubotu> devede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[16:40] <bazhang> see above flipmode
[16:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, I use dd to copy and restore the mbr with and without the partition info
[16:40] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, <CorruptTerrorist> anyone help me with an nvidia error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57708/ - it says that i need the kernel source code
[16:40] <flipmode> bazhang: what does that mean? info?
[16:40] <kornelius> hey.im trying to log on to Undernet...its 0k till i got on the server but cannot join channels?its says  --kornelius :Register first..any1 knows how its done?
[16:40] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, it should be in /usr/src
[16:40] <Znet> my system hasnt logged any messages in the var log for about 2 weeks now, is there a service and deamon that i need to run
[16:40] <jeffMASTERflex> flipmode: just install a program named devede. it should take care of that for you
[16:40] <Bo^Dick> Jack_Sparrow: let me guess, you make a raw image with dd and then use zip to compress it?
[16:40] <matju> moyogo: personally i'm using a keyboard layout with the Compose key on 6.06LTS, but i also wanted to setup the "cf" layout on a friend's computer (running 7.10)
[16:41] <burkmat> 'route' instantly displays static route (192.168.1.0 with no gw) but then it gets stuck for several seconds (up to 20-30) until showing the default one. This is severely delaying any internet traffic, and I need help.
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, No need to compress 512 bytes
[16:41] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: are you trying to compile the nvidia driver?
[16:41] <Znet> brukmat: what does netstat -nvr say ??
[16:41] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, yes
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, or 446 etc without partition info
[16:41] <Bo^Dick> Jack_Sparrow: yeah but for the whole drive i mean (not just mbr)
[16:41] <matju> moyogo: AFAIK, Compose key and deadkeys require the same mechanism to be in place, and fail for the same reason.
[16:41] <jeantib> Hello. New on Ubuntu. AWN is starting up with my sys. how do I make I cons to start up with it, e.g: firefox?
[16:42] <gpellis64_> CorruptTerrorist: it might want the kernel headders as well
[16:42] <Znet> my system hasnt logged any messages in the var log for about 2 weeks now, is there a service and deamon that i need to run
[16:42] <Bo^Dick> Jack_Sparrow: i've been told dd doesn't compress empty space
[16:42] <moyogo> matju: look in kcontrol, it's there somewhere
[16:42] <CorruptTerrorist> gpellis64_, how can i tell?
[16:42] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: sorry I don't know about that
[16:42] <l815> anyone know any helpful tutorials for setting up gtk for programming?
[16:43] <waylandbill> don't the kernel headers get installed with the source? wouldn't be of much use without them
[16:43] <burkARGH> 'route' instantly displays the '192.168.1.0' route but it is delayed for up to 30sec before displaying the default route. This is severely impacting my traffic and I need help getting it to stop freezing.
[16:43] <erUSUL> waylandbill: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, I was pointing out some of the possibilities..  I need to run...  dd can be piped to gzip per the link I gave earlier for a comp[ressed image, but junk that is not zeroed out will show up as data.. true
[16:43] <danbhfive> l815: what gtk programming?  what language?
[16:43] <l815> danbhfive, C++
[16:43] <matju> moyogo: thanks. my friend also has that problem with the firefox of 7.10, which i can't reproduce with the firefox of 6.06. Do you know what she should do? i looked in the preferences and didn't see it.
[16:43] <Znet> burkARGH: are you sure this si affecting your traffic, what do your logs say
[16:43] <CorruptTerrorist> utkan0s, it has 2.6.22-14 but not 2.6.22-15
[16:44] <Znet> BurkARGH: try restaring your network init
[16:44] <l815> danbhfive, is there like a repository that comes with all the needed libraries
[16:44] <jeffMASTERflex> l815: try checking out glade interface designer
[16:44] <Znet> Does anyone know why my machine maynot be producing logs
[16:45] <jeffMASTERflex> l815: all the necessary gtk developemnt libraries are in the repositories
[16:45] <danbhfive> l815: well, ubuntu has gtk installed already
[16:45] <l815> danbhfive, oh ok
[16:45] <l815> jeffMASTERflex, alright thanks
[16:45] <CorruptTerrorist> how can i enable ssl on apche2?
[16:45] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, try it anyway
[16:45] <danbhfive> l815: but what jeffMASTERflex said is probably true, you may have to install the -dev libraries to get the c++ bindings/header files
[16:46] <Znet> Does anyone know why my machine maynot be producing logs
[16:46] <CorruptTerrorist> utkan0s, i have... and that's why i'm getting the nvidia error
[16:46] <moyogo> matju: kcontrol: regional & accessibility → keyboard layout → tab: xkb options → enable them → in the options: enable it
[16:46] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, you need to find the right sources then, dont know how else to say it
[16:46] <l815> alright, i'll try and figure out which ones i need to get
[16:47] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, if you can't find it try and update your kernel
[16:47] <CorruptTerrorist> back to my other question... how can i enable ssl on apche2?
[16:47] <magnetron> Sinnerman: try Samba
[16:47] <burkARGH> 'route' gets stuck for 30sec before displaying default route - Severely slowing my internet connection.
[16:47] <magnetron> !samba > Sinnerman
[16:47] <KingD> Hi did ubuntu ever fix the adobe flash problem they've had?
[16:47] <eifzon> anyone here that has big knowledge about vsftpd and could help me with my question?
[16:48] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, http://www.google.com/search?q=ssl+apache2
[16:48] <danbhfive> KingD: its fixed for firefox
[16:48] <bazhang> adobe's problem was fixed yet KingD
[16:48] <Znet> burkARGH: have you tried any of the things i have said
[16:48] <Sinnerman> magnetron thanks. but i was wondering if there was a hardware solution that wouldn't require me to install an OS to serve the files, maybe?
[16:48] <Citizen> Some iso burner for WIN you recommend?
[16:48] <erUSUL> !burning | Citizen
[16:48] <ubotu> Citizen: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[16:48] <burkARGH> Znet: Sorry, could you msg me? Using mIRC and it refuses to highlight people =/
[16:48] <Citizen> ?
[16:49] <Killeroid> can anyone tell me what arguments i need to tag on to ps to show the full path to the binary of the processes
[16:49] <erUSUL> Citizen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[16:49] <Citizen> ok
[16:49] <Citizen> Thx
[16:49] <eifzon> hmm, I got my vsftpd up and running today, and I want to do so the User just can access my /var/ftp folder, i have uncommented chroot_list_enable=YES and chroot_local_user=YES, what have I done wrong?
[16:49] <KingD> everytime I try to load adobe flash for msnbc video it does not load. It is a tar file is that wrong for ubuntu?
[16:49] <magnetron> Sinnerman: sure there are. check your local computer dealer for NAS solutions
[16:49] <matju> moyogo: ok, i tried setting the Compose key in kcontrol, i also tried enabling the canadian keyboard (which is called ca here, not cf) and neither of them works in kate, even though i restart kate.
[16:49] <CorruptTerrorist> post #4? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4466
[16:49] <Sinnerman> magnetron cool, thanks.
[16:49] <danbhfive> KingD: try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[16:50] <Citizen> You are som kind of supergeekangels
[16:50] <Znet> burkARGH: message me
[16:51] <spaghetti_knife> I've disabled ipv6, i've reinstalled apt-get, i've installed netselect-apt, and my apt-get's still really slow.
[16:51] <burkARGH> Znet: Seems unregistered people can't msg... But w/e. Found your message, how do I restart it? Just ifconfig down/up?
[16:51] <matju> moyogo: the non-dead keys specific to the ca layout work. it's only the combination of characters, such that ' + e = é, that doesn't work
[16:52] <KingD> danbhfive I tried that it says it is not possible to download.
[16:52] <Znet> burkARGH: did you get my message "hello" i sent you, also try going to etc - init.d - networking then do restart
[16:52] <Killeroid> can anyone tell me what arguments i need to tag on to "ps" to show the full path of binaries of each process
[16:52] <Znet> killeroid: should show you --help
[16:53] <danbhfive> KingD: can you pastebin the exact error?
[16:53] <spaghetti_knife> Can anyone help me speed up my apt-get?
[16:53] <Znet> killeroid: i normally do a ps -eaf
[16:53] <burkARGH> Znet, the problem is gone now, it just dissapeared. Any idea what's causing it or how I can avoid it?
[16:53] <psycholvlan> my hard drive and partition with windows on them disappeared.... anyone know how to get them back?
[16:54] <KingD> I will try
[16:54] <Znet> burkARGH: check the logs on your system, and also what routes you have in the routing table
[16:54] <burkmat> psycholvlan, Did you reformat them?
[16:54] <psycholvlan> no
[16:54] <Znet> anyone know why my machine maynot be logging
[16:54] <burkmat> psycholvlan, So what do you mean they dissapeared?
[16:54] <psycholvlan> i was running windows and i decided to come to linux
[16:54] <jeantib> does anyone know how  enable icons e.g: firefox to startup with AWN?
[16:54] <danbhfive> !paste > KingD
[16:54] <psycholvlan> last night they were there just fine now they aren't
[16:54] <eifzon> Anyone her got hddtemp to work in phpsysinfo, 2.5 version?
[16:54] <KingD> Can you tell me where I can paste bin?
[16:55] <burkmat> !paste | KingD
[16:55] <ubotu> KingD: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:55] <moyogo> matju: that's strange, i don't think i can help you more, i use gnome :-/
[16:55] <psycholvlan> Last night I could see and access them, now I can't see them at all
[16:55] <burkARGH> Znet, well I have 2 routes. 1 default and 1 currently "192.168.1.0" with no gw. logs... where would I find them?
[16:55] <Znet> logs are in .. var - logs - messages
[16:56] <Znet> burkargh: the - is a forward slash
[16:56] <mix25> how i can see hdd parameters
[16:56] <burkmat> psycholvlan, Have you tried mounting them?
[16:56] <psycholvlan> how do you mount them?
[16:56] <burkARGH> Znet, Figured. Checking :)
[16:56] <mix25> averagge access time and size of sectors .. etc
[16:56] <Znet> burkargh - you can do a tail -n 100 tehn the path to messages to shwo the last 100 entries
[16:56] <psycholvlan> i'm new to linux
[16:57] <Znet> any one able to help with my logging issue
[16:57] <TrichomeKid> Are there special settings I need to use so I can hook up my computer to a TV through S-Video out?
[16:57] <agroker> cannot login into any window manager, .xsession-error file talks about missint liblber.so.2 library, what to do?
[16:57] <matju> moyogo: is firefox using gnome? all of it, or just some widgets and do what it wants for the rest?
[16:57] <burkmat> psycholvlan, mount <something> <somewhere>. for example, if your windows partition is /dev/hda3 and you wanted it in /home/user/windows you'd write "mount /dev/hda3 /home/user/windows"
[16:57] <mavi-> it uses some gtk
[16:58] <KingD> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57716/  Here it is
[16:58] <mavi-> not gnome
[16:58] <danbhfive> KingD: are your sources all enabled?
[16:58] <psycholvlan> oh ok
[16:58] <psycholvlan> i'll try that
[16:59] <KingD> sorry I don't know what you mean?
[16:59] <danbhfive> !enablesources | KingD
[16:59] <ubotu> KingD: Enable the standard Ubuntu repositories by going to System > Administration > Software Sources - See !repositories for detailed information
[16:59] <danbhfive> !repositories > KingD
[16:59] <TrichomeKid> Anyone know how to hook up a Ubuntu box to a TV?
[17:00] <neoalex> how can I get helvetica fonts installed?
[17:00] <Znet> trichomekid, use a s video lead
[17:00] <psycholvlan> i think i know why it not working.... windows froze on me
[17:01] <MasterShrek> !fonts | neoalex
[17:01] <ubotu> neoalex: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[17:01] <TrichomeKid> Znet:  That's what I did.  I have a seperate TV out card that came with the motherboard. I hook it up using S-Video and it displays the motherboard graphic at the beginning and then the bootup text but it doesnt display the ubuntu progress bar
[17:01] <KingD> I did enable it it had a line in the box I checked it
[17:01] <J1> hey there, i installed ubuntu server version and added the ubuntu-desktop. i am doing the same thing on another machine and im wondering if it is possible to install the ubuntu desktop from the "normal ubuntu" cd without having to download it
[17:01] <spersaud> how is ubuntu better than debian ?
[17:01] <FarrisG> I'm seeing a weird issue on two fresh amd64 machines, Gutsy... Anytime I try to execute a binary file that didn't come from Ubuntu, I get "No such file or directory", even though it's definitely there. I can read the files, and I run scripts, I can do anything except execute bins. I know that's not much to go on, but any idea how I can begin to troubleshoot?
[17:02] <spersaud> I have been a fan of debian for a long time
[17:02] <MasterShrek> !best | spersaud
[17:02] <ubotu> spersaud: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[17:02] <Znet> trichomekid: i dont know of the top of my head but i imagine google would be your best bet
[17:02] <finn_> the software is definately more up to date
[17:02] <KingD> in the source code box was that correct?
[17:02] <burkmat> Znet, Hmm... Well, it's gone now and now I have a way of hunting down the issue whenever I see it again. Thanks for the help. :)
[17:02] <bazhang> spersaud: this is not really a distro shopping channel
[17:02] <Znet> no worries
[17:02] <danbhfive> KingD: no, you don't need the source
[17:02] <l815> how can i install the gtk dev libraries?
[17:02] <TrichomeKid> Znet:  You'd think so :)  most of the stuff is about nVidia graphics cards.  Thanks anyways though
[17:02] <Znet> Burkmat: also try the command top to see if you machine is running out of resources
[17:03] <mix25> How I can see hard disk parameters on Ubuntu
[17:03] <Znet> mix25: df -kh
[17:03] <FarrisG> mix25: hdparm
[17:03] <moyogo> matju: the ca layout should work without a problem in Firefox
[17:03] <lilg111111_> cant play streaming music or videos in gusty
[17:03] <danbhfive> KingD: can you sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade?
[17:03] <eifzon> Anyone her got hddtemp to work in phpsysinfo, 2.5 version?
[17:04] <bazhang> lilg111111_: you got ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? what video
[17:04] <lilg111111_> i dont know
[17:04] <Znet> anyone clused up with ubuntu
[17:04] <Znet> *clued
[17:04] <webito> Does somebody know why my pc is detecting the floppy, the cdrom   they are set to boot frist before the hdd   but I cant boot from them   (it is an old computer=
[17:04] <lilg111111_> bazhang i dont know im new to linux
[17:04] <Znet> webito: bios boot order
[17:04] <lilg111111_> im trying to play music from pandora.com
[17:04] <Znet> my machine isnt logging anyone any ideas
[17:05] <matju> moyogo: well, it doesn't in 7.10 on her computer, but does in 6.06 on my computer, what can i say more?
[17:05] <webito> Znet yeah I have s4ette dthe bios boot order   floppy - cdrom - hdd0
[17:05] <lilg111111_> bazhang, im trying to play music from pandora.com
[17:05] <bazhang> lilg111111_: sounds like you need the flash plugin (nonfree) that is in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:05] <Znet> webito: is it cabled right
[17:05] <J1> is there any way to install "ubuntu-desktop" form the ubuntu CD on a ubuntu-server installation (so i dont have to download it)
[17:05] <Znet> webito: i wouldnt say that is an unbuntu issue
[17:06] <Znet> i take it no one has any ideas why my machine isnt logging
[17:06] <TrichomeKid> J1:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   - i believe
[17:06] <webito> Znet it is not an ubuntu issue, it doesnt boots win cd too  and yes it is cables (and detected by the bios, otherwise it will stop at the first stage when detecting IDEs)
[17:06] <luisgmarine_> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows a link to upgrade to Kubuntu.  I have Ubuntu right now but I want to upgrade to Kubuntu, and then remove all the gnome apps, is this possible or should I just re-install with Kubuntu?
[17:06] <TrichomeKid> oh nevermind, from the CD
[17:06] <Balaams_Miracle> I need a bit of (British) help translating a text. Specifically, understanding what "the Employment Exchange" is. Is it some kind of temp agency, an employment office? Something else? Any help would be welcome.
[17:06] <lilg111111_> bazhang, how do i get that
[17:07] <J1> trichomeKid - yeah, since i have both CDs i was wondering if i can somehow save some time
[17:07] <KingD> I tried to update here is the info I got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57718/
[17:07] <TrichomeKid> J1:  Hmm, couldn'
[17:07] <TrichomeKid> couldnt tell ya*
[17:07] <bazhang> lilg111111_: enable the repos in synaptic package manager hit refresh then search for restricted, find that package click install then hit apply
[17:07] <yao_ziyuan> i wonder if you guys are ok with the pidgin 2.2.1 in ubuntu's repostory, because mine often crashes silently
[17:07] <TrichomeKid> J1: I did install that way with no problems however.
[17:08] <J1> well np, thanks anyway. if its not simple its not worth it, its not such a big download anyway ^_^
[17:08] <J1> cya
[17:08] <danbhfive> KingD: I dont think flash works on amd64, you could try installing 32bit ubuntu
[17:08] <TrichomeKid> J1:  Bye
[17:09] <KingD> danbhfive, I guess I will leave it as it is maybe they will fix it on a future version.
[17:09] <Citizen> Do someone know if I can jon several servers in mIRC?
[17:09] <KingD> Thanks for trying to help
[17:10] <danbhfive> KingD: your welcome
[17:11] <josesito> hi all, is there a way to have a gtk theme per app?
[17:11] <crow> does ubuntu has something equivalent to windows task manager? and how to run it if it has?
[17:12] <KingD> Dan how do I make a username come up without typing it over and over?
[17:12] <Trashlord> Hey, I have a problem with sound playing. my sound card is an EMU 1212m, I've installed all ALSA drivers and utils, sound is played. The card in asoundconf list is shown as EMU 1010. When I listen to streamed music through Firefox, it works fine. But when I play a file which is saved on the drive, in XMMS or Movie Player, the music's pitch is faster. Why is that?
[17:13] <hischild> KingD, use tabcompletion. type the beginning, and hit tab
[17:13] <ganu> how to back up the ubuntu system??and how to go back to restore point??
[17:13] <danbhfive> !tab | KingD
[17:13] <ubotu> KingD: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[17:13] <josesito> crow, top
[17:13] <josesito> crow, in a terminal
[17:14] <crow> can't it be runned with some keyboard shortcut?
[17:14] <D3f0> hi. we've installed Ubuntu in most of our Faultly computers, but we have some very old machines (P3 256Mb 10Gb HD) which may not be very suitable for Gutsy with Gnome, KDE or XFCE, any recomendation?
[17:14] <nikin> i was trying to modify my keyboard layout.. but if i remove the "use x settings" selection and close the window the selection goes back and the keyboard layout does not change.. i use xubuntu and xdm
[17:15] <KingD> danbhfive: I got it thanks
[17:15] <waylandbill> D3f0: if they can boot from network, they may be okay as terminal server clients with PXE boot.
[17:15] <KingD> Thanks guys!
[17:16] <bastid_raZor> D3f0; DSL (damn small linux) or puppy linux
[17:16] <white_eagle> :():
[17:16] <white_eagle> !alien arena
[17:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alien arena - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:16] <white_eagle> !info alien-arena
[17:16] <ubotu> alien-arena (source: alien-arena): Standalone 3D first person online deathmatch shooter. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 6.05-4.1 (gutsy), package size 637 kB, installed size 1512 kB
[17:16] <D3f0> wahooooo, is it a very complicated setup?
[17:16] <josesito> crow, sure, you just have to find how to make keyboard shortcuts in gnome (if you use gnome)
[17:17] <crow> I'll search
[17:17] <josesito> kk, i'd tell you but i don't or have used gnome xD
[17:17] <arrrghhh> so this is driving me nuts.  compiz is DISABLED.  xubuntu was REMOVED.  and yet still, titlebars disappear.  "metacity --replace" fixes it, but it's not persistent after reboot.  i've tried "metacity --replace &" "sudo metacity --replace", nothing sticks after reboot.
[17:17] <waylandbill> D3f0: it's called diskless workstations. there's a distro written to be the server of such an environment, but don't recall the name off hand
[17:17] <ganu> how to back up the ubuntu system??and how to go back to restore point??
[17:18] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: go to sessions and add overthere the command metacity --replace
[17:18] <D3f0> waylandbill, something like LTSP?
[17:18] <molkko> anybody knows any inexpensive digital camera that one could control from commandline. I need just one feature which is to be able to shoot a picture from a shell script.
[17:18] <josesito> ganu, rsync backup with a daily cron job maybe?
[17:18] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: just curious, why is compiz disabled? driver issues or just a wish?
[17:18] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, that seems like a sloppy fix... what is it using that's causing this?
[17:18] <sipior> ganu: there are a lot of options there. what sort of storage needs do you have?
[17:18] <waylandbill> D3f0: you beat me to it.. was just going to say to look at ltsp project
[17:18] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, OLD machine.
[17:19] <arrrghhh> VIA on-board video
[17:19] <arrrghhh> i want it to run fast, i don't need pretty.  just functional.
[17:19] <waylandbill> D3f0: I've set it up in the past. not hard to do as long as the clients can boot from network.
[17:19] <AuraithX> ive im on Firefox3 beta3 - how can I open Firefox 2 ?
[17:19] <white_eagle> sorry arrrghhh can't help ya
[17:19] <white_eagle> and why is xfce removed?
[17:19] <arrrghhh> hrm... ok thanks white_eagle
[17:19] <sipior> ganu: easiest is to buy a couple of drives identical to what you have now, and follow josesito's advice  and set up an rsync backup
[17:20] <white_eagle> AuraithX: just go to applications/internet/mozilla firefox
[17:20] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, xfce was removed because someone here said that was the reason for titlebars disappearing...
[17:20] <sipior> ganu: keep on of those at home, and the other disk at another, secure location
[17:20] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: the reason for titlebars dissapearing is emerald+compiz
[17:20] <white_eagle> not xfce
[17:21] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, that's what i thought... so how can i remove compiz?  i really have no use for it.
[17:21] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: just set effects to none, I don't beleive that you can remove it, or try searching synaptic
[17:22] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, tried synaptic, can't remove it.  the desktop effects are DISABLED.  it's still happening tho.  "metacity --replace" fixes it right away.
[17:22] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: I dunno what else, just add overthere to sessions metacity --replace
[17:22] <white_eagle> that IS  a temporary fix
[17:22] <white_eagle> but I don't know anything else
[17:22] <white_eagle> that could help ya
[17:23] <arrrghhh> i know.  i want a permanent fix.  i want to know why this is happening and squash it.  thanks for tryin tho.
[17:23] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: maybe this is stupid (it is), but if you have free time, try reinstalling ubuntu
[17:24] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, lmao.... uh no.  cuz i'll go thru all that and it'll still occur.
[17:24] <biabia_> i cant seem to delete some very big files off my flash drive. can i format it? whats the command
[17:24] <ganu> sipior:ya...actually i ll be experimenting with os...hence i needed it...now i m testing with oracle ..
[17:24] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: and what about reinstalling xfce?
[17:24] <white_eagle> or using KDE
[17:24] <white_eagle> (KDE won't run good on older machines)
[17:24] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, well i would love to use KDE.  evidently her machine doesn't like it, because the livecd crashed
[17:25] <sipior> ganu: what sort of data size are you hoping to back up?
[17:25] <beautifulsnow>  I'm getting this when I try to do anything with wine:::: Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible. :-/ Could anyone please give me any pointers, I googled and it seems a few people fixed it but they didn't say how. I've tried removing/purging wine, removing all wine folders, and reinstalling Wine, but nothing works.
[17:25] <ganu> josesito:how to that rsync..i m new to this stuff..
[17:25] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, and xfce was awesome, but the config files kept getting wonky and her menu bars would disappear, plugins would get rearranged or disappear.  it was drivin her nuts, and i couldn't figure out a fix, so i figured she could try gnome.
[17:25] <josesito> ganu, well it's easy wait and i'll post my settings
[17:26] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: just curious, how OLD is that machine? ;)
[17:26] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, i've never had so much trouble with ubuntu.  if this was my first exposure to linux (installed ubuntu on her machine) i'd probably never use it.  all my other computers went so smooth.
[17:26] <arrrghhh> uhm
[17:26] <arrrghhh> 800mhz
[17:26] <ganu> sipior:system files...and i hav enough space..
[17:27] <sipior> ganu: if it's only a few gig, pick up a couple usb keys; they're certainly cheap enough these days
[17:27] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, her husband is a cheapo and paid less for the hardware than he did for the license of windows.   LOL
[17:27] <white_eagle> hhaha arrrghhh
[17:27] <waylandbill> I thought most of the cost of the hardware was the window license these days. :-D
[17:27] <white_eagle>  arrrghhh what about trying another distro?
[17:28] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: debian maybe
[17:28] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, well i love ubuntu.  it's very newbie friendly, and she's a n00b.  what would you suggest tho?
[17:28] <Chousuke> waylandbill: a windows OEM licence is not much
[17:28] <arrrghhh> hrm... debian might work.
[17:28] <white_eagle> its almost the same as debian
[17:28] <ganu> sipior:is there any way where i can put it in hard disk itself and get back using live cd?
[17:28] <white_eagle> [ubuntu[
[17:28] <SuperLag> I've got a scripting question for you guys. If I'm trying to ssh to a series of hosts in a list, and one of the hosts is unreachable, how do I get the script to proceed to the next host in the list, and not hang?
[17:28] <eifzon> What shall it say in the phpsysinfo config if I want my hddtemp to work?
[17:28] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, yea i've setup some servers with debian, i am famillar
[17:28] <waylandbill> Chousuke: no. but is a cost noone wants to pay.
[17:28] <sipior> ganu: not sure i follow you
[17:29] <josesito> ganu, you want your backup on the same drive right?
[17:29] <Chousuke> waylandbill: and yet most people who buy new computers pay it without even realising it.
[17:29] <ganu> josesito:ya....
[17:29] <sipior> really? that doesn't seem like a good idea...
[17:29] <ganu> josesito,like ppl do in windows..
[17:30] <Bo^Dick> is the mbr located in a particular area of a physical harddrive or in an arbitary place inside a partition?
[17:30] <dury> hi there channel :)
[17:30] <sipior> Bo^Dick: it occupies the first 512 bytes of the disk
[17:30] <komputes> How can I view all my machines associated wifi AP's?
[17:30] <Bo^Dick> sipior: does the term "disk" refer to a partition?
[17:30] <konner> hello
[17:30] <konner> =]
[17:30] <Chousuke> ganu: wait, you want to back up your data to the same disk that it's on?
[17:30] <sipior> Bo^Dick: no, the disk proper
[17:30] <josesito> ganu, well, it's not exactly the same since you will be overwriting your backup, but still, you can go back a day
[17:30] <waylandbill> Chousuke: I agree. the uninformed consumer is not confined to PC's either unfortunately
[17:31] <josesito> i'm finishing the post just wait and see
[17:31] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: just look at the configuration I saw in a magazine Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 3;2 (3GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 8 MB OF CACHE!!!)
[17:31] <josesito> if it suits you
[17:31] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: you don't want to know the rest
[17:31] <white_eagle> :)
[17:31] <arrrghhh> white_eagle, lol, yea sounds expensive.  i like my amd x2 thank you.
[17:31] <Bo^Dick> sipior: so each harddrive casette has its own mbr
[17:31] <beautifulsnow>  I'm getting this when I try to do anything with wine:::: Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible. :-/ Could anyone please give me any pointers, I googled and it seems a few people fixed it but they didn't say how. I've tried removing/purging wine, removing all wine folders, and reinstalling Wine, but nothing works.  Help!  ~~~([17:31] <sipior> Bo^Dick: if you want to copy it with dd, try "dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.copy bs=512 count=1"
[17:31] <Chousuke> ganu: are you aware that it won't protect against anything but accidental removals?
[17:31] <dury> how do I zip three jpg files.... is it "zip zipfile file1.jpg file2.jpg file3.jpg"
[17:32] <white_eagle> arrrghhh: its 2740 euros
[17:32] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i was thinking of testing against another physical harddrive just to verify the operation
[17:32] <waylandbill> dury: yes. you can always 'man zip' if you can't recall just before issuing the command.
[17:32] <arrrghhh> sheesh.  yea, that's just a tiny bit outta my price range, and WAY outta hers lol
[17:32] <white_eagle> around $3300-3500
[17:32] <Bo^Dick> sipior: although that disk is configured as slave
[17:32] <bazhang> !ot
[17:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:33] <josesito> ganu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57720/
[17:33] <white_eagle> ok, bazhang thanks for reminding ;)
[17:33] <bazhang> ;]
[17:33] <ganu> Chousuke:actually now i m installing oracle and if something goes wrong i need to get my system back..
[17:33] <waylandbill> arrrghhh: when you tried to remove compiz, did apt-get give an error?
[17:33] <Chousuke> ganu: ah
[17:34] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i'm simply assuming the mbr can be accessed even when the disk is wired as slave
[17:34] <ganu> josesito:thank u very much.. i ll see it..
[17:34] <dury> waylandbill: it gives me error
[17:34] <arrrghhh> waylandbill, there was no way to remove it.  it wasn't in the repository.  aptitude wouldn't purge it
[17:34] <dury> waylandbill: if I do that way
[17:34] <sipior> Bo^Dick: sure, makes no difference. just be sure to use preface the command with sudo
[17:34] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i believe slave/master jumper will only tell mobo which disk holds the mbr to use
[17:35] <waylandbill> arrrghhh: you removed the repo that contained it then. You need to put the repo back in, remove it, and then remove the repo
[17:35] <Bo^Dick> dd is a very cryptical tool
[17:35] <arrrghhh> waylandbill, i didn't remove ANY repo.  compiz is so tightly integrated into 7.10, i don't think it's possible to remove it.
[17:36] <arrrghhh> which is retarded, because it's causing stupid issues like this.
[17:36] <waylandbill> dury: your command is valid as you wrote it. The 'man zip' part I eluded to is another command entirely.
[17:36] <Bo^Dick> sipior: many thanks
[17:36] <sipior> Bo^Dick: yep, have fun
[17:38] <waylandbill> arrrghhh: yeah.. you're right.. it's in the main pool... but apt-get had to have some clue in the output when you wanted to remove it... It's listed as optional, so it can be removed.
[17:38] <arrrghhh> waylandbill, if you know how to remove it, i'm all ears.
[17:39] <l815> what's the best editor for html/css/php/javascript?
[17:39] <ajopaul> is there a external pc to tv converter ?
[17:39] <waylandbill> arrrghhh: could you pastebin the output when you attempt to remove it?
[17:39] <josesito> l815, bluefish
[17:40] <l815> joseito, thanks that's what i've been using so far :)
[17:40] <josesito> xD if you need another one, scite is cool...
[17:40] <josesito> but bluefish is just specialized for web development
[17:41] <Bo^Dick> to have the ability to save and restore the mbr is so powerful
[17:42] <Bo^Dick> after all i like the dd tool even though its so cryptical
[17:43] <lastentry> hi to all
[17:43] <TrustNoOne> how to save the entire partition with linux on it, so incase you fubar it, you can restore it?
[17:43] <Lectus> How to configure a webcam on ubuntu? thanks
[17:43] <jpatrick> !webcam | Lectus
[17:43] <ubotu> Lectus: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[17:43] <[T]an1> having trouble getting sound to work on my ubuntu install.
[17:43] <[T]an1> from lspci: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:43] <ganu> josesito: ya i did it...how to recover ?
[17:44] <[T]an1> i have attempted to modprobe hda-intel and modprobe i810 with no success
[17:44] <ganu> josesito:if i cant loggin can i recover using live cd?
[17:44] <NattyTux> HI.
[17:44] <josesito> ganu, basically the same command but backwards (switch src with dest dirs) and you won't need log files or deleting anything
[17:44] <josesito> ganu, yes you can
[17:44] <lilg111111_> need help with xchat using packetnews
[17:44] <greatauk> Hey everyone, I've got a process that is started from init.d/ which I want to have run as root instead of some other default user ... any idea where this would be configured? is it in the init.d config file itself?
[17:45] <NattyTux> I have a question regarding the SH command, I downloaded a program ,*.bin file, now it ran only when I called it with the sh command...why is that?
[17:45] <LogicalDash> Compiz is making the LXDoom window transparent. I'm certain that it's Compiz because if I disable visual effects there's no problem. But is there a way to fix this while still in Compiz?
[17:45] <josesito> ganu, something else...what is your src dir??
[17:45] <Bo^Dick> suspiction: if i use dd tool to /dev/sda1 (partition) rather than /dev/sda (refers to physical drive) i'll get a corrupt mbr without warning or errormess
[17:45] <greatauk> nattytux, is the file executable?
[17:46] <Bo^Dick> i manage to conclude that they gave different results
[17:46] <ubuntu> hello. maybe this is a very common question but i cannot find an answer. somebody, tell me what i'm doing wrong. i am trying to partition my sda before installing feisty. i have 400gb hard .. i've assigned 1gb to swap, 25gb to "/" and trying to push the rest to /home and it says "can't have the end before the start!".. hands down on it, googled, no real solution.. thanks in advance
[17:47] <NattyTux> greatauk: yes , its GoogleEarthLinux.bin: POSIX shell script text executable
[17:47] <ganu>  josesito:its root....?
[17:47] <white_eagle> w00t! I dl'd alien arena
[17:47] <white_eagle> its cool
[17:47] <slidge> kind of laggy
[17:47] <josesito> ganu, well, you have to exclude some dirs like /proc and /dev i think
[17:48] <NattyTux> greatauk: when I double clicked it, nothing, but when I ran it with : sh  GoogleEarthLinux.bin   it was fine
[17:48] <slidge> warsow is the free fps
[17:48] <josesito> wait i'll look for it
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> white_eagle, I like sauerbraten for fps
[17:48] <josesito> white_eagle, try tremulous
[17:48] <slidge> warsooow
[17:48] <white_eagle> open arena
[17:48] <greatauk> NattyTux, if it's google earth, try running ./googleearth and not the .bin file
[17:48] <jamiejackson> where's the trash directory?
[17:48] <rrplay> you guys try urban terrot ??
[17:48] <[T]an1> anyone? Sound card assistance?
[17:48] <ganu> josesito: oh..ok....
[17:48] <rrplay> terror
[17:48] <andreus> hello. maybe this is a very common question but i cannot find an answer. somebody, tell me what i'm doing wrong. i am trying to partition my sda before installing feisty. i have 400gb hard .. i've assigned 1gb to swap, 25gb to "/" and trying to push the rest to /home and it says "can't have the end before the start!".. hands down on it, googled, no real solution.. thanks in advance
[17:49] <josesito> jamiejackson, ~/.trash ?
[17:49] <NattyTux> greatauk: its already installed and runing, but I wonder why it didnt ran at the first place
[17:49] <CarlFK> getting a build error that others don't:  http://dpaste.com/37229/  "expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'size_t'"
[17:49] <NattyTux> greatauk: but only when I called it with the 'sh' command
[17:49] <TrustNoOne> how do you start a program with your comp, with sudo permission so you dont have to type in passwd every time?
[17:50] <lastentry> hi to all, I'm looking for  Nickolay V. Shmyrev. do you know when I'll can meet him here^
[17:50] <lastentry> ?
[17:50] <jamiejackson> josesito: close, thanks: ~/.Trash
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu Not a common question..  the /home needs to be at the end of the / root partition ...  YOu might use stand alone partition program instead of doing it in the installer version.  make one partition at a time.. making swap last and I would suggest 2 gig as you seem to have plenty of space
[17:50] <greatauk> NattyTux, you're running "googleearth-bin" right? if you'd run "googleearth" instead, which is a script, then you wouldn't have to use "sh" at the beginning
[17:51] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus, that last msg was for you
[17:51] <NattyTux> greatauk: oh i see... thanks
[17:51] <greatauk> NattyTux, but maybe my installation of google earth is different from yours ... usually you can omit the "sh" when running scripts if the first line of the script tells you what program it uses to run
[17:52] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: figured, thanks. trying to do it with ubuntu's built-in partitioner first
[17:52] <waylandbill> TrustNoOne: the sudoers file allows for the NOPASSWD directive on a group, user or command.
[17:52] <josesito> ganu: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/  (this site seems pretty good filled with rsync backups, but i still don't find what i want...still looking)
[17:52] <greatauk> NattyTux, if you look at the first line of "googleearth", it'll say "#!/bin/sh" which tells the system to use "sh"
[17:53] <TrustNoOne> waylandbill, what can i use to open sudoers (it is unrecognized)
[17:53] <geggam> heh
[17:53] <Jack_Sparrow> NattyTux, Here are the instructions I used to setup google earth on this machine..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57723/  menu etc..
[17:53] <geggam> text editor
[17:53] <josesito> ganu, http://www.netadmintools.com/art188.html mentions something about why excluding /proc dir
[17:54] <garyc> hello all
[17:54] <geggam> u could try hexedit
[17:54] <geggam> :D
[17:54] <greatauk> does anyone know how to get a daemon process, started from init.d/process_name, to run as root?
[17:54] <geggam> k that was mean... dont use a hexeditor
[17:55] <NattyTux> thanks alot!!!!
[17:55] <garyc> I need a little Apache and PHP help, anyone good on those topics
[17:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:55] <waylandbill> TrustNoOne: gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers  it's probably set to 400 for permissions though. You'll need to change that first and then back afterwards or you can always use 'visudo' if you are familiar with vi editing
[17:55] <greatauk> garyc, not all bad with apache
[17:56] <waylandbill> TrustNoOne: make sure you know what you need to do with the file first. If you goof you could be locked out of sudo... usually need to fix with a livecd if you do that. :)
[17:56] <NattyTux> Jack_Sparrow: the goold earth file, is like a 20MB script?
[17:56] <ganu> josesito:oh..good..
[17:56] <garyc> gre; I am getting Internal server error on PHP scripts run from the cgi-bin folder
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> NattyTux, You should not need that if you already have ge installed, just follow the rest of that to setup your menu
[17:57] <NattyTux> Jack_Sparrow: I wonder, because if it requires the sh command.. (well im still a newbie)
[17:57] <ganu>  josesito:what r u lookin for???
[17:57] <NattyTux> Jack_Sparrow: Im just asking for my knowledge
[17:57] <garyc> great; oops wrong person
[17:57] <NattyTux> Jack_Sparrow: its already installed
[17:58] <prodigel> hI. Anyone can help me with some wireless settings?
[17:58] <josesito> ganu, reasons for excluding /proc, and other possible dirs to exclude...
[17:58] <Jack_Sparrow> NattyTux, please try not to use the enter key quite as often.. yes, the regular install runs with sh.. so you can make a launcher (icon) so you dont need to start it like that.
[17:58] <geggam> NattyTux, on the command line you can type 'file <filename>' and usually you will see an output of what kind of file it is
[17:58] <garyc> greatauk; i am not good at this typing.  are you there
[17:58] <geggam> just for your knowledge
[17:58] <greatauk> garyc, yup
[17:59] <NattyTux> sorry for the 'enter' thing, and thanks again for the help.
[17:59] <greatauk> garyc, an internal server error sounds like a bug in the php code ... been a while since I php-ed
[17:59] <josesito> i know if you try to copy proc you may get some errors
[18:00] <waylandbill> greatauk: or the webserver doesn't have permission to run the script.
[18:00] <ganu> josesito:ya.. even i tried it..
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow> NattyTux, np..  it gets easier as you go..
[18:00] <garyc> greatauk: The script runs ok in www but get the error when i run it from within the cgi-bin folder
[18:01] <josesito> ganu, anyway, i would suggest to try the command i gave you excluding /proc, and see if you still get errors... i only use rsync to sync my home dirs so i don't know much of the entire filesystem...but there are plenty of resources for backing up and restoring on the internet... =D google: rsync local backup
[18:01] <greatauk> garyc, waylandbill's idea isn't bad, you sure the permissions are correct?
[18:01] <josesito> i hope i helped...g2g
[18:01] <josesito> bye
[18:01] <garyc> my cgi-bin is located in /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[18:01] <TrustNoOne> waylandbill, so i would add this line to sudoers? %admin ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /path/to/executable
[18:02] <garyc> waylandbill: what should the owner and perms. be???
[18:03] <waylandbill> garyc: depends on the webserver and if setuid is set, but execute permissions for that user for sure.
[18:03] <komputes> How can I view all my machines associated wifi AP's?
[18:05] <waylandbill> TrustNoOne: the (root) wants to be the user who is sudo'ing, not root.
[18:05] <garyc> waylandbill:  the owner is me (garyc) and 757 on the permissions
[18:05] <greatauk> garyc, whoever is running the script should have permission to execute it to begin with :)
[18:06] <nikon252> could anyone tell me why this is happening?
[18:06] <nikon252> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libvolume-id0_113-0ubuntu17_amd64.deb: files list file for package `mono-runtime' is missing final newline
[18:06] <garyc> waylandbill: owner was root but I changed it.
[18:06] <greatauk> garyc, what's the output of "ls -l script_name"
[18:06] <waylandbill> garyc: when I say the user, I mean the user the webserver is executing the script as. that's what you need to know first off.
[18:07] <greatauk> walandbill, if I understand correctly, garyc is running it himself via the commandline
[18:07] <garyc> greatauk: should I try to relocate the /usr/lib/cgi-bin to /var/www/cgi-bin
[18:08] <gidna> Hi
[18:08] <waylandbill> greatauk: apache?
[18:08] <gidna> why I can't listen from two different programs?
[18:09] <greatauk> waylandbill, no, no relocating
[18:09] <greatauk> sorry garyc
[18:09] <greatauk> waylandbill, but if the server is running it ok, www-data must have all the right permissions
[18:10] <lilg111111_> need help with pandora, it will not work
[18:10] <onefunk> newbie here. anyone have time to answer some questions about sound and soundcards et cetera
[18:10] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: found out about gparted, just used it to delete all previous partitions and create new one.. everything worked out well except for the end "Aborted (core dumped)"
[18:11] <garyc> greatauk: I am writing a tiny web page (learning PHP lesson) one line that calls the script, also one line.
[18:12]  * bluefoxx is back (gone 10:15:44)
[18:12] <ForsakenSoul> hi can someone tell me how can i unmount my mobile phone through the console
[18:12] <garyc> greatauk: it is an example in my beginners lesson on PHP
[18:13] <Cpudan80> Anyone here able to help me with a multi monitor setup?
[18:13] <waylandbill> garyc: is that part of a lesson? why not put the html in the php script itself?
[18:13] <Cpudan80> Basically I have a laptop -- connected to an external monitor, and I want the external monitor resolution to be higher than the internal panel
[18:15] <jovitosg> hey do you know how can i install the svn in ubuntu?
[18:15] <garyc> waylandbill: the book shows that example also.  the script runs ok from folders in www.  I just wanted to understand the cgi-bin folder.  In my pearl lessons non of my scripts ran either.
[18:15] <ForsakenSoul> hi can someone tell me how can i unmount my mobile phone through the console
[18:15] <tushyd> help! I installed the latest nvidia drivers and now i'm forced to start in "low graphics mode"
[18:16] <tushyd> how do I roll back?
[18:16] <ForsakenSoul> it gives me a bug when i try to unmount it through thunar
[18:16] <greatauk> does anyone know where it is decided what user runs init.d scripts ... can I make apache run as superuser (I'm not going to, just hypothetically)
[18:16] <garyc> waylandbill: I thought I have a basic setup or .conf problem with my apache??
[18:16] <Supybot> hi, what is the photo application for gnmoe.  foto something
[18:16] <kditty> can anyone help me with vmware server networking configuration, or point me in the direction of a channel for vmware support?
[18:16] <waylandbill> garyc: sounds like the cgi-bin is mis-configured in the httpd configuration
[18:16] <greatauk> I need to make a service run with root privileges but don't know where that is set ... anyone? :)
[18:16] <onefunk> hello does anyone know why my sound works only every other reboot?
[18:17] <daedra> onefunk: lol really?
[18:17] <rrplay> jovitosg: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[18:17] <onefunk> daedra: yup
[18:18] <garyc> waylandbill: how should it be configured
[18:18] <onefunk> daedra: it's on sometimes and then off and it's totally random
[18:18] <daedra> onefunk: that is weird
[18:18] <tushyd> can anyone help? I installed the latest nvidia drivers and now i'm forced to start in "low graphics mode"
[18:18] <daedra> onefunk: how is it that you are testing your sound?
[18:18] <daedra> onefunk: (to see if it works)
[18:18] <waylandbill> garyc: to allow executing of scripts. you'll need to look at the apache documentation.
[18:19] <garyc> tushyd: define your monitor
[18:19] <rrplay> tushyd: which driver version
[18:19] <onefunk> daedra: system/preferences/sound
[18:19] <Jacobean> does anyone have experience with synching pocketpcs with ubuntu?
[18:20] <tushyd> garyc: built in laptop monitor? 1680x1050
[18:20] <garyc> waylandbill: agreed.  I did and it appear to be right.  I read til my eye's bleed then I try you guys
[18:20] <evil_tech> super noob question: can i install grub to a hard drive and have it load a linux live cd?
[18:20] <tushyd> rrplay, nvidia driver 169.12
[18:21] <daedra> evil_tech: why load it that way?
[18:21] <daedra> you can just boot from disc
[18:21] <tushyd> it was working mostly fine but then i read about the driver update and installed it.... which wasn't very successful
[18:21] <waylandbill> garyc: you could check the apache logs. Internal errors are normally logged.
[18:21] <rrplay> tushy:get the res fiugured ou the nvidia-xconfigg -A and selct your optins
[18:22] <moomo1> when will they fix EDID fail on ddcprobe?
[18:22] <burner> hi! i have some problems with resuming from suspended mode (S3).. it won't restore X (with matchbox) properly! if i do ctrl+alt+F2 and then go back to F7, though X appears. But with a weird mouse pointer (black/white square)
[18:22] <evil_tech> because ubuntu doesnt like my cd rom
[18:22] <rrplay> tushyd: oops nvidia--xconfig -A
[18:23] <moomo1> when will ubuntu get some nice fonts?
[18:23] <daedra> evil_tech: how did you install ubuntu in the first place?
[18:23] <jovitosg> thanks
[18:23] <Arimus> moomo1, there are plenty of nice fonts :)
[18:23] <jovitosg> rrplay
[18:23] <garyc> waylandbill: yes the errors are logged.  this is one [Thu Feb 28 10:51:39 2008] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] Premature end of script headers: cars.php
[18:23] <evil_tech> deadra: i havent installed ubuntu on it yet. the installer dies at: Loading additional resources from cdrom
[18:23] <Dritzen> moomo1:  There are ways to install microsoft fonts :P
[18:23] <LjL-Temp> c
[18:24] <onefunk> daedra: is there a way for me take a look at my sound card specs, drivers and such?
[18:24] <moomo1> fonts are pretty crappy, especially the character "k"
[18:24] <evil_tech> daedra:was going to install grub using knoppix or DSL since those boot fine
[18:24] <Dritzen> evil_tech:  you could always install Wubi
[18:24] <waylandbill> garyc: usually that is because the content-type is undefined.
[18:24] <tushyd> rrplay, so I type in  nvidia-xconfig -A and then what? i'm confused
[18:24] <rrplay> read the options and see if they pertain to you
[18:24] <evil_tech> dritzen: i was considering that
[18:24] <genius> what is the name of software, that used in installation GUI for disk partitioning?
[18:25] <moomo1> Dritzen: i have installed them, but not sure they get used, also it dont include tahoma
[18:25] <garyc> waylandbill: does the <?php do it or is somethime else required??
[18:25] <evil_tech> genius:gparted
[18:25] <firelord> I have glibc 2.6 installed on my Ubuntu server, but an app I'm compiling insists on having glibc 2.3. Is there a way to install them both? or is there another solution?
[18:25] <evil_tech> ?
[18:25] <genius> evil_tech: thank you!
[18:25] <evil_tech> genius:no i read what you said wrong
[18:25] <evil_tech> its not gparted
[18:25] <SpudDogg> Hello all.  No matter how many linux distros I try out, I always come back to Ubuntu.  Nice to be here :)
[18:25] <daedra> onefunk: first run alsamixer in console
[18:25] <waylandbill> garyc you could try <?php print "Content-Type: text/html\n\n"; ?>  and see if it helps.
[18:25] <daedra> onefunk: turn everything on
[18:26] <tushyd> rrplay, i see something about virtual resolution, is that what I want?
[18:26] <xphisherx> hello everyone.. i'm a newbie at linux.. i attended a meeting last night.  it was pretty neat.
[18:26] <rrplay> tushyd: what res do have know?
[18:26] <tushyd> i think VGA and it's painful
[18:27] <rrplay> tushyd: i mean pixels   try nvidia-xserver ot nvidia-xsettings
[18:27] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how Ubuntu will react if I try to recompile my kernel?  There seems to be a lot of modules I do not need, so I'm sure there's plenty of things built in I don't need.
[18:28] <tushyd> VGA is 640x480
[18:28] <rrplay> tushyd: dpkg-reconfigure-xserver
[18:28] <daedra> SpudDogg: why don't you do a linux from scratch on it
[18:28] <garyc> waylandbill: will do.  stand by one moment
[18:28] <rrplay> tushyd: nvidia-settings
[18:29] <waylandbill> SpudDogg: should play nicely with it, but could be replaced by updating packages.
[18:29] <SpudDogg> daedra, I did LFS on this machine once, but I found it to not be very productive.  I spent WAY to much time tinkering
[18:30] <tushyd> rrplay, nvidia-settings is giving me an error: you do not appear to be running the Nvidia X driver
[18:30] <tushyd> rrplay, but if I do nvidia-xconfig and then restart X, it boots into low-res mode
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> SpudDogg, You wont gain much by doing so and could cause yourself some headaches.. BUt for educational purposes.. then sure..
[18:30] <Lectus> Hello! I installed emerald, how can I apply the theme?
[18:31] <fabio_> hi
[18:31] <rrplay> tushyd: do you get an nvidia logo on boot?
[18:31] <beautifulsnow>  I'm sorry to ask again, but I've been googling this almost non stop since yesterday, and still haven't found a solution. I add c drive through winecfg because it says there isnt any, and when I click apply/ok I get:  the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible. with a bunch of erros like that... anyone have any hints on what I might to to fix it?\
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Lectus, system  pref  emerald theme manager
[18:32] <fabio_> cd .wine
[18:32] <SpudDogg> Jack_Sparrow:  I'm not too interested in recompiling the kernel for educational purposes, but LFS and distros like gentoo do have a nice edge when it comes to "bloatware" being installed.  I'm just looking for max performance from this computer
[18:32] <tushyd> um, i don't think so... the screen blanks like 3-4 times and then low-res mode comes up
[18:32] <fabio_> then go to drive_c
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> beautifulsnow, /j #Winehq  for a start
[18:32] <einalex> If you'd like Nautilus to know about tabs, vote at the Ubuntu Brainstorm -> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/90/
[18:32] <rrplay> tushyd: did you reconfigure your x server dpkg-reconfigure-xserver ?
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> SpudDogg, Like I said, I dont think you will gain much.  BEtter off adding a bit of ram than recompiling the kernel
[18:33] <fabio_> it't wrong to have tags on nautilus
[18:33] <einalex> tabs
[18:33] <fabio_> it's also against the gnome look&feel
[18:33] <onefunk> daedra: cool i turned everything on in alsamixer. there is the <intel ICHS> and my <Audigy 2 ZS> everything is on for both of them. what should i do next to get my sound going?
[18:33] <fabio_> tabs yes
[18:33] <beautifulsnow> Jack_Sparrow I am there but no one has been able to help so I figured I'd ask the Ubuntanians
[18:34] <fabio_> like those on firefos i suppose
[18:34] <daedra> onefunk: try playing something now
[18:34] <SpudDogg> Jack_Sparrow:  Yea, I'm not going to play with it today, but maybe eventually.  By the way, do you know how Ubuntu handles flash plugins for 64-bit?  nswrapper?
[18:34] <einalex> If gnome thinks tabs should be done at wm level. they should actually do it there
[18:34] <einalex> metacity doesn't
[18:34] <Lectus> Jack_Sparrow: Already did it. But can't change. Should I restart Xorg?
[18:34] <fabio_> Nautilus is faster than konqueror just ecause of that
[18:34] <einalex> the effect is: my desktop is cluttered with nautlius windows. That's against gnome look&feel as well.
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> SpudDogg, Yes, and I agree that is not a good solution
[18:35] <fabio_> Start adding things to it and you will end up with something bloated like kde
[18:35] <waylandbill> SpudDogg: I agree with Jack_Sparrow. The gain in performance doesn't outweigh the time and effort for the compiling the source for simply the performance boost.
[18:35] <fabio_> nautilus has to be VERY fast
[18:35] <SharkBoy> Hi there - I'm a long term Linux user, returning after a break of a couple of years and I'd like to try Ubuntu - I understand the installation routine is different to what I'm used to (Anaconda). Is there a way to burn a boot CD image, and then continue the install pulling it off the net?
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> fabio_, thunar is faster.. as file manager..
[18:35] <fabio_> thunar sucks
[18:35] <einalex> i was told that
[18:35] <bazhang> SharkBoy: try the minimal cd
[18:35] <einalex> as well
[18:35] <fabio_> as well as the whole xfce
[18:35] <gidna> why can't I listen to two different programs at the same time?
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[18:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:36] <tushyd> rrplay, i just did the reconfiguring, should I restart X?
[18:36] <einalex> fabio_: why does it suck?
[18:36] <fabio_> sorry for the developer
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound | gidna,
[18:36] <ubotu> gidna,: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:36] <SharkBoy> bzhang thanks - is that just for stable, or bleeding edge too?
[18:36] <gidna> it doesn't fail...
[18:36] <gidna> nut I can't do what I said..
[18:36] <bazhang> SharkBoy: you can choose ;]
[18:37] <\lart> greetings all..  So, I need to create a new subnet behind a router that has an interface in the same subnet as my server (runs gutsy), which serves up dhcp.  On the router, for the new segment, I've configured a dhcp relay agent, providing the ip addr of the existing dhcp server.  is it simply sufficient to create a new subnet section in the dhcpd.conf file for the corresponding range of the new network?
[18:37] <tushyd> rrplay, i'll restart X and then come back
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gidna, You cant listen to two things at once correct?
[18:37] <einalex> people buy lightning fast pc's today. The screens don't grow as fast as the cpu speed. I think place on my desktop is more important than a 0.5s faster startup time
[18:37] <gidna> correct..
[18:37] <rrplay> tushyd : set you screen size 1st !
[18:37] <SharkBoy> bazhang thanks :)   And lastly.... will the minimal CD force me to select every package by hand, or will I still be able to ask it to give me a default Ubuntu Gnome installation?
[18:37] <waylandbill> SharkBoy: the livecd comes with a full system and is most likely the best solution though.
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gidna, then read the link..
[18:37] <fabio_> Dont use the initrd file
[18:37] <bazhang> SharkBoy: you can choose that with ubuntu-desktop ;]
[18:38] <fabio_> i just discovered it was useless on my pc
[18:38] <garyc> waylandbill: error is the same.  the line you gave me just prints Content-Type: text/html\n\n to the screen if I run the script in www folder where it works
[18:38] <daedra> i moved to debian after ubuntu started integrating compiz
[18:38] <SharkBoy> waylandbill Thanks! I want to play with bleeding edge gnome though, so I think a minimal cd may be a better option for me
[18:38] <gidna> what link?
[18:38] <SharkBoy> bazhang thanks again!
[18:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[18:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:38] <bazhang> SharkBoy: no worries ;]
[18:39] <fabio_> !bot
[18:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:39] <daedra> !Players
[18:39] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[18:39] <gidna> I don't find there
[18:39] <komputes> Which file holds the names of passed associated wifi AP's?
[18:39] <rrplay> tushyd: read the info for debian/ubuntu here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490  and you'll be good to go
[18:39] <fabio_> !torrent
[18:39] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[18:39] <garyc> waylandbill: that makes sense if the print command prints what ever is in quotes
[18:39] <Jack_Sparrow> gidna, Did you switch from oss to alsa?
[18:39] <onefunk> daedra: so my cd player is going and still no sound... hmmm
[18:39] <fabio_> BitStormLite should be part of gnome
[18:40] <waylandbill> garyc: the error was still likely from failing to execute. php is probably outputting the necessary content-type.
[18:40] <daedra> onefunk: try playing from an encoded file, that way you can be sure its not lack of codecs for cdplay
[18:40] <daedra> .mp3, .ogg etc
[18:41] <Vermux> anybody knows how to install Cast UP Player?
[18:41] <Vermux> Im trying to install it but getting errors
[18:42] <Vermux> http://download.castup.net/products/Player/CUPlayer.xpi
[18:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Vermux, Where are you getting it.. source, deb or rpm?
[18:42] <garyc> waylandbill: I am lost.  Sorry I got to go.
[18:42] <Vermux> Jack_Sparrow: ^
[18:43] <prasanna> anyone here get songbird album applet working?
[18:43] <Vermux> Jack_Sparrow: it is from a web site
[18:44] <Vermux> Jack_Sparrow: I gave u the link
[18:44] <evil_tech> anyone have ubuntu installed on a dell poweredge 2450?
[18:44] <fabio_> cuplayer, what is it for ?
[18:44] <Vermux> fabio_: watching videos
[18:44] <Vermux> fabio_: web content
[18:44] <fabio_> it's a firefox plugin i see
[18:45] <Vermux> fabio_: yes, but Im getting error when trying to install
[18:45] <fabio_> i will try it
[18:45] <tushyd> hey rrplay still here? The display is now running at 1650x1080 (thank you.) but nvidia-settings still tells me that I'm running without the Nvidia X driver
[18:45] <rrplay> tushyd: read the info for debian/ubuntu here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490  and you'll be good to go
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Vermux, that is a link to the file.. yes, I saw that.. I had already typed the request when you posted yours link..  still does not tell me much
[18:45] <thruxton> hello, does ubuntu have a default MTA or do I have to install one?
[18:46] <tushyd> rrplay, thanks
[18:46] <littlepinkdot> Whats the average compression ratio of "compress" and "gzip" ?
[18:46] <Vermux> fabio_: try watching the video there http://acrosec.com/
[18:46] <rrplay> you bet read andfollow the info for a full compiz experience !
[18:46] <fabio_> ok
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> littlepinkdot, That is relkative to what you are trying to compress in the first place
[18:46] <Vermux> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[18:46] <littlepinkdot> Jack_Sparrow, just in general, say plaintext.
[18:47] <tetrimino> my laptops lags in gnometris.. guess my graphiccards isn
[18:47] <tetrimino> t configured
[18:47] <tetrimino> i got a Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[18:47] <tetrimino> what does i do?
[18:47] <fabio_> yes, it doesn't install
[18:48] <Vermux> fabio_: that what I meant
[18:48] <Vermux> fabio_: if u find a solution, plz let me know
[18:48] <komputes> Does anyone know the file which holds the names of passed associated wifi AP's for NetworkManager?
[18:48] <tetrimino> can somebody help me install my graphics? its onboard
[18:49] <CorruptTerrorist> can someone help me with installing the nVidia drivers?
[18:50] <tetrimino> is everybody ignoring me?
[18:50] <fabio_> install your graphics ?
[18:50] <bazhang> tetrimino: intel chip?
[18:50] <tetrimino> yeah fabio i got an Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[18:50] <spdf> tetrimino: What chipset? ATi/nVidia/Intel?
[18:50] <tetrimino> its onboard
[18:50] <tetrimino> yeah
[18:50] <tetrimino> intel
[18:50] <fabio_> lspci
[18:50] <Ward1983> does anyone have a asus p5b deluxe mainboard by any chance?
[18:51] <brobostigon> komputes: normally network setting are stored in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:51] <bazhang> tetrimino: does the restricted driver manager not show a driver for that card?
[18:51] <waylandbill> CorruptTerrorist: trying to install the binary package?
[18:51] <fabio_>  Vermux It seems that file is not there
[18:51] <tetrimino> nope bazhang
[18:51] <CorruptTerrorist> waylandbill, i'm using an 8800gt so no
[18:51] <komputes> brobostigon: does that include pas access points that the machine has connected to?
[18:51] <bazhang> tetrimino: what video resolution is the card outputting?
[18:51] <tetrimino> fabio what does lspci do?
[18:51] <moomo1> try it :)
[18:51] <fabio_> lspci is very useful
[18:52] <moomo1> it lists pci devices
[18:52] <rrplay> Corrupt terrist: read for  debian/ubuntu here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490  and you'll be good to go
[18:52] <komputes> brobostigon: that file contains: auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[18:52] <brobostigon> komputes: includes network settings if active and running or not, up or down
[18:52] <tetrimino> right now its 12800x800
[18:52] <komputes> brobostigon: not quite a list of Access Points
[18:52] <tetrimino> imean 1280
[18:52] <fabio_> try this xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:52] <Erix> hi
[18:53] <fabio_> do man intel and search for you chipset
[18:53] <komputes> brobostigon: I need the file which holds the names of passed associated wifi AP's for NetworkManager?
[18:53] <brobostigon> komputes: try "man iwlist"
[18:53] <waylandbill> CorruptTerrorist: compiling from the kernel source then?
[18:53] <l815> is there a toolbar like awn that doesn't require comipiz
[18:53] <CorruptTerrorist> waylandbill, i downloaded the .run
[18:53] <tetrimino> command not found fabio_
[18:53] <spdf> tetrimino: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:54] <tetrimino> oh :D
[18:54] <tetrimino> already the newest version
[18:54] <komputes> brobostigon: that's a list of access points currently available, iwlist does a scan to see the AP's
[18:54] <komputes> brobostigon: I need the file which holds the names of _PASSED_ associated wifi AP's for NetworkManager?
[18:54] <ForsakenSoul> how can i start a program in the console
[18:54] <spdf> tetrimino: Okay, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and make sure its loading the intel driver, under the video card device section
[18:55] <CorruptTerrorist> i can't get the headers for my kernel it seems
[18:55] <komputes> brobostigon: because they keep reconnecting automatically if they have ever been associated
[18:55] <bazhang> komputes you forgot your password?
[18:55] <komputes> bazhang: nope
[18:55] <brobostigon> komputes: not sure.
[18:55] <komputes> brobostigon: thanks for trying
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> CorruptTerrorist, why not, which one are you using
[18:55] <CorruptTerrorist> 2.6.22-15
[18:55] <bazhang> komputes what do you need those for then?
[18:56] <komputes> bazhang: to remove passed Wifi Access point from a list causing it not to reconnect automatically
[18:57] <Jack_Sparrow> CorruptTerrorist, Is that Hardy ?
[18:57] <CorruptTerrorist> Jack_Sparrow, no... gutsy
[18:57] <Jack_Sparrow> I have not updated this box
[18:58] <rrplay> CorruptTerrorist: there is an option in the nvidia-installer to build the driver for a custom kernel  sh NVxxxxblah   -A see options and select for the installer to compile a custom run fot you
[18:58] <Jack_Sparrow> CorruptTerrorist, and you dont find linux-headers-2.6.22-15 in synaptic?
[18:58] <databridge> how to install german language for festival?
[18:58] <CorruptTerrorist> Jack_Sparrow, no
[18:58] <waylandbill> my latest shows linux-headers-generic as being 2.6.22-14
[18:59] <bazhang> databridge in an english system?
[19:00] <databridge> german
[19:00] <J1> whats the command to install the ubuntu desktop again?
[19:00] <gidna> I didn't swtich from oss to alsa..
[19:00] <waylandbill> CorruptTerrorist: do you have prerelease or unsupported(backports) repos enabled?
[19:00] <Pici> J1: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:00] <gidna> But I can't listen to two different sound programs at the same time
[19:00] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop j1
[19:00] <CorruptTerrorist> waylandbill, not that i've installed
[19:00] <J1> thanks guys ^_^
[19:01] <waylandbill> CorruptTerrorist: could you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:02] <gidna> what can I do?
[19:02] <SpudDogg> !restricted
[19:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:02] <gidna> this channel is useless.,.
[19:02] <Ward1983> i wanna know if my mainboard is compatible, its a asus p5b deluxe, how can i find out?
[19:03] <dgjones> !hcl | Ward1983
[19:03] <ubotu> Ward1983: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> gidna, Please dont be rude
[19:03] <tominglis> hi, how do i check to see which version of the uvc video driver i am running?
[19:03] <Ward1983> ty dgjones
[19:03] <bazhang> gidna what two different sound programs?
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang, She has common problem but refuses to read the sound link on switching from oss to alsa to fix it
[19:04] <Ward1983> sorry my crappy windows irc client deleted the link...
[19:04] <bazhang> Ward1983: you could lshw and pastebin it for us to look at ;]
[19:04] <Ward1983> !hcl | Ward1983
[19:04] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow: aha thanks
[19:04] <CroX> As what user are Gnome session processes run?
[19:04] <Pici> CroX: your user.
[19:04] <fx|RabBit> CroX: as the logged in user
[19:05] <CroX> Thanks.
[19:05] <fx|RabBit> can anybody pls help me fix my trackerd is omehow srcdewd it up so that it doesnt find anything anymore:/
[19:07] <bazhang> Ward1983: you could install pastebinit and then cat lshw | pastebinit and paste the link it gives you here
[19:07] <fx|RabBit> Ward1983: google for hardware compatibility list
[19:07] <Pici> !hcl | Ward1983
[19:07] <ubotu> Ward1983: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[19:08] <Ward1983> lol thanx
[19:08] <Ward1983> i allready did it myself, just wanted to explain why i did it again :)
[19:09] <Ward1983> could seem odd from other point of view
[19:09] <fabio__> !vista
[19:09] <ubotu> vista is the new 'operating system' by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[19:09] <fabio__> !debian
[19:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[19:10] <elektronik123> sieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:11] <bazhang> elektronik123: stop please
[19:11] <fabio__> there is site worth visiting
[19:12] <fabio__> just put the output from lspci -n in it and it will show you what module you need and what you don't
[19:12] <robdeman> folks, this: /usr/sbin/slapd -f /etc/openldap/slapd.conf -d 255 works ... but /etc/init.d/ldap start ---> "slap_startup failed (test would succeed using the -u switch)"
[19:13] <fabio__> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/  -> for debian
[19:13] <lastentry_> Nickolay how time Calibration last? from terminal now nothing write
[19:13] <lastentry_> maybe calibration working...
[19:14] <fx|RabBit> bazhang: old chiefchek0r you can surely tell me why my trackerd wont find anything anymore?:)
[19:14] <fabio__> http://kernel.xc.net/  --> if you going to configure your kernel
[19:14] <zeeble> hi. is there a way to do a ubuntu netinstall, without using floppies?
[19:15] <Muir_> I'm running 7.10 gutsy.  however, I would like to install a package called kdepim, version 3.5.9 (v 3.5.7 is whats included in gutsy).  How can I get this package?
[19:15] <franco> !it
[19:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:16] <genius> i want to backup my HD. how to copy files preserving their uid,guid,timestamp etc?
[19:16] <luigi_> sd
[19:16] <fabio__> i'm italian too
[19:17] <Muir_> genius:  I beleive you can use "cp -a *" and the -a option will preserve those things.  but im not totally certain of that so research it first.
[19:17] <zeeble> tar zcvf
[19:17] <einalex> last resort: dd
[19:17] <bazhang> zeeble you can try the minimal cd it is only 9mb iso file
[19:18] <zeeble> bazhang: where's that iso?
[19:18] <zeeble> cant seem to find it
[19:19] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD zeeble
[19:19] <zeeble> ty, bazhang
[19:19] <bazhang> zeeble no worries ;]
[19:20] <bazhang> fx|RabBit: no luck yet--just loads of bugs associated with trackerd using huge amounts of cpu cycles
[19:20] <Stwange> has anyone managed to install the Silverlight plugin on 7.10?
[19:20] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to tell if 'apt-get install transcode' actually installed and is utilizing my 64-bit OS and proc?
[19:20] <rambo3> !info transcode
[19:20] <ubotu> transcode (source: transcode): Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 2380 kB, installed size 5488 kB
[19:20] <reikalusikka> I try to mount my external HD but I get this error message hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[19:20] <reikalusikka> any advice?
[19:21] <reikalusikka> it worked on gnome earlier today
[19:21] <reikalusikka> :D
[19:21] <fx|RabBit> bazhang: hmkay thanx:/ same about that beagle stuff
[19:21] <rambo3> reikalusikka, try with sudo
[19:21] <reikalusikka> rambo3: how?
[19:21] <fx|RabBit> is there any usable search functionality apart from commandline?
[19:22] <bazhang> fx|RabBit: sorry not to help--it's worse in Hardy so be thankful ;]
[19:22] <Marupa> Is there any way to turn off groups in pidgin?  or is that a question that should be asked in pidgin's channel?
[19:22] <fx|RabBit> freakin hell  how can it be worse?
[19:22] <bazhang> reikalusikka: is it in your fstab?
[19:23] <reikalusikka> huh?
[19:23] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: i hace heard rumors.. beagle? trackerd?
[19:23] <rambo3> reikalusikka, try first to see if you can do that with your account. check Syste -> users-> you
[19:23] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: beg your pardon?
[19:23] <fx|RabBit> basically i need something that i can search with
[19:23] <reikalusikka> ok
[19:23] <simplexio> fx|RabBit: you asked qbout search
[19:24] <Sara> is there a portable version of ekiga to download ?
[19:24] <fx|RabBit> like i got my the who discography and i have no freakin idea on which album happy jack was so i have to look them all thru
[19:24] <axod> hi how do I get my compiler setup properly? I apt-get gcc, but now things say "error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[19:24] <rambo3> !mount,fstab > reikalusikka
[19:24] <reikalusikka> rambo3: what should I check here?
[19:24] <OleMoudi> hi!, I just installed 7.10 (text installer) on my laptop, I created encrypted partitions for / and swap and everything went ok, but after updating my system (almost 200 packages) swap device (/dev/mapper/sda7_crypt ) disappeared
[19:24] <fx|RabBit> or i search find / -name happy then i know where it is and browse there to drag it into trhythmbox
[19:24] <fx|RabBit> suxx hard
[19:24] <eni191_> which program can i use best for msn? aMSN, Gaim, or?
[19:24] <OleMoudi> and I am not prompt for its password during boot up anymore
[19:25] <fx|RabBit> simplexio: yes it is a problem
[19:25] <rambo3> reikalusikka, user priviliges , and check mount external harddrives
[19:25] <bazhang> eni191_: amsn seems to do the job--you should try them and see
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> fx|RabBit, please tone down the language...
[19:25] <stormze1> should I be able to see the intel X3000 vga chip in lscpi if it is being used for a second monitor?
[19:25] <SpudDogg> eni
[19:25] <rambo3> brb
[19:25] <SpudDogg> eni191_:  pidgeon?
[19:25] <reikalusikka> rambo3: I only see "login name" "UID" "primary group" etc
[19:26] <Stwange> eni191_, I prefer pidgin, but amsn looks most like MSN
[19:26] <stormze1> (sorry, it's not working right now as a second display.)
[19:26] <fx|RabBit> Jack_Sparrow: apologies its my everyday language, im such a prol gg
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[19:26] <Greentea> Can i burn a dics 8.04 alpha 5 and install it into an empty hard drive?
[19:26] <WGGMk> Im trying to setup an Ubuntu server on a DMZ. The Ubuntu server is directly connected to an ethernet card on the server handling the NAT and DMZ. Can I use a standard Cat5 Cable or do I need a Crossover Cable???
[19:26] <bazhang> Greentea: sure; though that is really a question best discussed in #ubuntu+1 ;]
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Greentea, YEs, but questions about hardy need to be in Ubuntu+1
[19:27] <stormze1> Anyone here have an Intel X3000  chip for a second or first display?
[19:27] <fx|RabBit> naah ill go watch house...
[19:27] <mad_max02> what are dump and pass options in fstab ??
[19:27] <magnetron> !anyone > stormze1
[19:27] <gidna> I can't listen to two different source of sound at the same time..
[19:27] <gidna> what can I do?
[19:28] <WGGMk> gidna: have you tried using OSS instead of ALSA?
[19:28] <gidna> why should I?
[19:28] <stormze1> magnetron: Tried that first; tried something more generic when I didn't get a response.
[19:28] <BarryToeman> patching a kernel requires a repatch on every kernel upgrade from repo, right?
[19:28] <WGGMk> gidna: well yea, to narrow down your problem
[19:28] <zeeble> yes
[19:28] <magnetron> gidna: make sure you're sound is set to ALSA
[19:28] <Greentea> Jack_Sparrow why is it move to discussed into #+1
[19:28] <zeeble> err, BarryToeman yes
[19:29] <SpudDogg> WGGMk:  good question...if you get that resolved soon, let me know the answer.  my guess is you'll need a cross connect though
[19:29] <Sara> does someone know which program can i use to record chat conversations and save them as mp3
[19:29] <WGGMk> SpudDogg: asking out of curiosity or you have a similar issue?
[19:29] <gn00bie> hi
[19:29] <gidna> why alsa is not good?
[19:29] <fabio__> Sara...
[19:29] <SpudDogg> WGGMk:  just curious
[19:29] <fabio__> i know how to get the text
[19:30] <fabio__> and then using festival
[19:30] <Greentea> Is there a similar program to mocha w32 tn3270 for ubuntu
[19:30] <Xacarith> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Resource busy or not available.
[19:30] <Sara> yes
[19:30] <gn00bie> ndiswrapper -l recognizes the net8187b device and driver, but I do not see in lshw -C or iwconfig, any ideas?
[19:30] <simplexio> WGGMk: depends hardwar, lst 5 years all my ethernet cards hve been smart enoght to work with both cables
[19:30] <gn00bie> did I miss something?
[19:30] <WGGMk> SpudDogg: my first thought was the ethernet card was bad, but it was recognized by the install of the server handling the DMZ. I have the DMZ set to push to a static IP and it answers ping's locally (on the same server) but can't get anyway except loopback on the Ubuntu server
[19:30] <Xacarith> Every time I try to run a test on my sound card I get that.
[19:31] <fabio__> Sara if you are it join #ubuntu-it
[19:32]  * yaro is ready to help people with tech problems.
[19:32] <magnetron> !helpersnack | yaro
[19:32] <ubotu> yaro: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[19:33] <manchicken> yary: How do I change GNOME from using Alt+Button02 for resize to using Alt+Button03?
[19:33] <manchicken> yaro even
[19:33] <manchicken> (that's what I get for not using tab completion)
[19:33] <boris__> how do i make my USB's FS NTFS or something a windoze can read ?
[19:33] <bod_> manchicken, check System-->preferences-->keyboard shortcuts   or in   ccsm
[19:34] <manchicken> boris__: Try using FAT32
[19:34] <boris__> manchicken: how ?
[19:34] <yaro> bors__ Most pen drives and portable media use VFAT already. Are you having trouble getting Windows to recognize it?
[19:34] <Squawk> boris__, go for fat32, and use mkfs.mvfat (man it)
[19:34] <Squawk> boris__, mkfs.vfat sorry
[19:34] <bod_> boris__, theres apps for windows for reading ext1 ext2 & ext3  file systems
[19:35] <boris__> filesystem already _is_ vfat
[19:35] <boris__> windoze still cant read USB
[19:35] <Squawk> boris__, windows can read that just fine
[19:35] <CorruptTerrorist> i get a kernel panic error
[19:35] <bod_> boris__, try asking in ##windows for a fix, or format as fat 16 or fat 32
[19:35] <loller> i'm lost
[19:35] <Squawk> boris__, then you have a problem with windows and the memory stick (same problem here, flash drives wont work on my mums windows xp box, but they do on most other xp boxes)
[19:36] <bod_> !gq | CorruptTerrorist
[19:36] <ubotu> CorruptTerrorist: Are you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question.
[19:36] <yaro> boris__: Perhaps you are having USB problems in Windows. That will be beyond the scope of this channel, unfortunately.
[19:36] <HaguMe> Hey people, I've an issue with a .lng file with opera @ feisty
[19:36] <Odd-rationale> boris__: Does it work in Ubuntu?
[19:36] <bod_> !elaborate | HaguMe
[19:36] <ubotu> HaguMe: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[19:36] <boris__> Odd-rationale: yes
[19:36] <manchicken> bod_: It won't let me change it in ccsm.  I see it, but I can't change it for some reason.
[19:36] <CorruptTerrorist> on boot, if i choose the 2.6.22-14 kernel, i get a KERNEL PANIC error message
[19:36] <Odd-rationale> boris__: OK. Then you don't have a problem at all :P
[19:36] <boris__> hey, i selected all my files on usb disk, cut and move to desktop
[19:37] <boris__> now, i dont see everyrrhing i pasted !!!
[19:37] <bod_> manchicken, double click on it then press thekey combo you wish to use....... or try asking in #compiz-fusion
[19:37] <boris__> i lost more than half of my pics !
[19:37] <HaguMe> Oh... well, sometimes Opera crashes when I go to certain sites
[19:37] <loller> i ordered a livecd to see if i would enjoy ubuntu. However, when I try to start up I get a message that the display has shutdown 6+ times in 90 seconds and then nothing happens. I don't know what to do, I are noob to linux
[19:37] <bod_> CorruptTerrorist, whats the whole message?
[19:37] <HaguMe> I guess it's because of the language file. Is that possible?
[19:38] <HaguMe> I use 9.50b and the language file is from the 9.26 version
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> HaguMe, More likely is an issue with flash
[19:38] <Squawk> HaguMe, do you get anything in /var/log/messages or /var/log/kern.log to suggest what might have hapened?
[19:38] <zossso> loller: Do you know your video card model?
[19:38] <bod_> HaguMe, im not familiar with opera but still i would say ,. no,. although try updating/reverting till they match?
[19:38] <beautifulsnow> Hi, Question: in keyboard shortcuts, I want to assign SUPER+R to "bring up the 'run' dialog'. So I click and it says "new  accelerator" i press those keys, but it says "SUPER+L" ! What am I doing wrong?
[19:38] <CorruptTerrorist> kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[19:38] <HaguMe> well, I haven't see the log
[19:39] <loller> zossso:I think it's an ATI FireGL 5250. I want to set up dual boot with xp and 7.1 ubunto
[19:39] <HaguMe> Well, I downloaded an upgraded version of the language file, but it's incompatible
[19:39] <bod_> beautifulsnow, you can achieve the shortcut in ccsm-->general setting-->terninal shortcut key
[19:39] <earthling> loller: install the cd in safe installation mode
[19:39] <bod_> HaguMe, a bad language file shouldnt slow a site down,.prob flash or java probs
[19:40] <beautifulsnow> bod_ ccsm?
[19:40] <loller> tried that too, earthling. same result
[19:40] <Squawk> CorruptTerrorist, error in menu.lst?
[19:40] <HaguMe> It usually crashes because of the flash-plugin instead of anything else you say?
[19:40] <bod_> beautifulsnow, compiz-config-settings manager
[19:40] <loller> unless i have to wait a couple hours, but it just stops doing anything
[19:40] <alanbshepard70> in this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/191225 I filed you can see the steps I need to take to get ubuntu to run on my dell machine with a PCI video card. Can anyone tell me how (if possible) to do this during installation using the alternate install CD?
[19:40] <bod_> beautifulsnow, do you have compiz?
[19:40] <beautifulsnow> bod_  Yes I do,  how'd you guess ;)
[19:40] <bod_> beautifulsnow, press   alt+F2   then type  ccsm
[19:41] <beautifulsnow> bod_ Ill check the ccsm, thanks, mmm... though I dont want a terminal, I'd like the run dialog instead ^_^;
[19:41] <bod_> beautifulsnow, me reckons about 90% of ubuntu'ers have compiz ;~)
[19:41] <bod_> beautifulsnow, oh,.oops,.,. its probably there aswell,.,.sorry
[19:41] <fabio__> the reason they got ubuntu
[19:41] <HaguMe> Squawk, there is nothing related to Opera in the logs
[19:41] <bod_> ;~)
[19:41] <CorruptTerrorist> Squawk, here's my menu.lst: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57732/
[19:41] <beautifulsnow> Nah I got it because it runs very smooth in my laptop, fabio_ :)
[19:41] <zossso> loller: or use the alternative cd
[19:42] <earthling> loller: it usually is due to the graphic card hardware.. do you even have a command prompt to work with?
[19:42] <beautifulsnow> bod_ do you know the command name for the thing that pops up when you push alt+f2 ?
[19:42] <loller> zosso, that won't reformat/partition over my windows stuff, I'll still have the choice to install in the clean space?
[19:42] <Squawk> CorruptTerrorist, is it the first entry that fails? if so, no initrd
[19:42] <mad_max02>  I need some help. I mounted hdd to /home/user/Data directory and I still didnt get full permisions. How can I mount hdd it that directory and get full permisions ?? I used fstab entry to automount it a system boot
[19:42] <Xacarith> Can any one help with audio problems  I seem to be having an issue with my sound...
[19:43] <HaguMe> But the question is... can a Language file be responsible of any kind of crash in Opera?
[19:43] <CorruptTerrorist> Squawk, it's the first, yes. what do i do?
[19:43] <HaguMe> perhaps it's a thing of the flash plugin I guess...
[19:43] <bod_> beautifulsnow, its title is 'Run Apllication'  but i dont know what the command is to bring it up from terminal,.,.why do you want to know?
[19:44] <Squawk> CorruptTerrorist, you need to point it to the initrd file (probably something like /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic). But into one of your working kernels and see where it is
[19:44] <bod_> HaguMe, i doubt the language file would crash opera,. why not reinstall opera and have the default file?
[19:44] <CorruptTerrorist> ummm... /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=7982c660-3bf9-44d3-82a8-d3969e473642 ro quiet splash
[19:44] <beautifulsnow> bod_ I have Keyboard Shortcuts and ccsm->Actions configured to show that dialog, but when I do the key combo, the Run dialog does not come up ;P
[19:44] <earthling> mad_max02: what is your mask at the fstab file for the mount?
[19:44] <bod_> beautifulsnow, whats wrong with alt+F2?
[19:44] <HaguMe> yes, I'll try that thing
[19:44] <zossso> loller: hmm. I don't think alternative cd will run as a live cd.  Might ask in this channel to see if anyone knows
[19:44] <Estesark> I have a question which is only partly Ubuntu-related, but perhaps one of you has the technical knowledge to help me. I am trying to forward a specific port on my ADSL router/modem. However, despite having followed a tutorial at porforward.com, my BitTorrent client still thinks that it is closed. I've just installed Ubuntu and have mostly default settings, any advice?
[19:45] <reikalusikka> I try to mount my external HD but I get this error message hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000, It works fine in gnome
[19:45] <HaguMe> thanks bod_ and Sqawk
[19:45] <bod_> np ;~)
[19:45] <mad_max02> earthling, I set it to default
[19:45] <yaro> zossso loller: The alternate CD is purely for installing based off an nCurses installer.
[19:45] <sethk> Estesark, try using telnet to connect to the port from the outside of the router.  syntax is telnet ip port
[19:45] <hischild> bod_, i tried windows ... it blew it all to smithereens :(
[19:45] <Squawk> Estesark, try iptables -nL, and see if your have a firewall in ubuntu. (all will be Open if not). If not, then the problem is still router related
[19:45] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: That seems to be a bug in kde/kubuntu. The work arond is just to mount it from the command line
[19:46] <zossso> yaro: thx
[19:46] <bod_> hischild, ???????
[19:46] <recon> I just deleted some stuff on my /home partition by accident. Is there any way to recover it?
[19:46] <hischild> bod_, you remember me right? ...
[19:46] <earthling> there will be in the line mask=XXX set it to mask=007
[19:46] <beautifulsnow> bod_ Alt+F2 didn't work, the same way that Super+R doesn't work, I actually want Alt or Super + Esc to bring up the Run dialog, but Alt+F2 is too big a stretch for my small hands ;p
[19:46] <bod_> recon, .Trash folder   /home/recon/.Trash
[19:46] <Estesark> Squawk: What am I looking for in the iptables -nL output exactly?
[19:46] <robdeman> everybody that helped me setting up my ldap server: thanks a lot!
[19:46] <recon> bod_: command line rm -rf. :-(
[19:46] <Squawk> recon, depends how you dleted it. Maybe your stuff went to /tmp, or to trash. If you used rm on command line, probably not
[19:46] <Kate_mins> hello, how can i change by chown the files owner & group ?
[19:46] <zossso> loller: you can still resize the partitions with the alt cd if I recall
[19:46] <Xacarith> I'll try back later I suppose.  Later all, and to all those who help, keep up the good work!
[19:46] <robdeman> it works now
[19:46] <jagggy> any java channels?
[19:46] <recon> Squawk: it didn't.
[19:46] <Squawk> Estesark, pm me the output if you want and il let you know what you have
[19:46] <earthling> mad_max02: there will be in the line mask=XXX set it to mask=007 or someting similar
[19:46] <reikalusikka> Odd-rationale: how should I mount it and send it to automount? I'm a novice in these things :D
[19:47] <loller> zossso: alright, thx
[19:47] <bod_> recon, hahaha,.,.what did you do that for?
[19:47] <bod_> hischild, yes i do ;~)
[19:47] <zossso> loller: sure
[19:47] <Squawk> recon, there are utilities out there to recover delted files, but I dont know what they are, google on it ;(
[19:47] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: You can't automount. You will have to manually mount. Is that ok?
[19:47] <recon> bod_: not my main thing, of course. i did rm -rf ufoai*, but then i realized i should have put a .deb on the end.
[19:47] <reikalusikka> well I think I'll manage
[19:47] <hischild> bod_,  good i was gettin scared :p well i wanted to dual boot my normal machine .. yet windows seems to hate me .... and now i hate windows more because it screwed up all my partitions ...
[19:47] <reikalusikka> Odd-rationale: byw how?
[19:47] <reikalusikka> but*
[19:47] <bod_> recon, ouch,.,.
[19:47] <mad_max02> earthling, I edited that entry myself and that line looks like this /dev/sdb1  /home/user/Data  ext3  defaults
[19:48] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: ok. do: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt" ...
[19:48] <hischild> bod_, thus, as a result, i'm now goin to install 7,10 and remove windows completely :-) inc for games
[19:48] <zossso> kate_mins: `chown <user>:<group> <file>
[19:48] <yaro> hischild: When dual booting any Linux with Windows, it usually works better to install Windows *first* and then Linux.
[19:48] <bod_> hischild, yer,. winbugs does that.,.,.rule of thumb is,. install winbugs first then install *nix
[19:48] <recon> bod_: it took forever to package, too.
[19:48] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: Where sdb1 is your device and /mnt is the mount point.
[19:48] <reikalusikka> Odd-rationale: ok, thanks
[19:48] <hischild> yaro, i know ... i had supergrub ready for the boot stuff
[19:48] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: It is NTFS, right?
[19:48]  * bod_ feels sorry for recon
[19:48] <reikalusikka> Odd-rationale: yes
[19:48] <zossso> kate_mins: you want to change the user and group right?
[19:48] <earthling> mad_max02: is it a usb portable drive?
[19:49] <hischild> yaro, but it just plainly overwrote all my partitions :S:(
[19:49]  * _newbie4 laughs.. winbugs
[19:49] <reikalusikka> Odd-rationale: so should I type media/myHD
[19:49] <yaro> hischild: Yikes.
[19:49] <recon> bod_: i umounted it as soon as i deleted it, so i have a good chance of recovering it.
[19:49] <prashant> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[19:49] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: does /media/myHD exist?
[19:49] <prashant> hiya
[19:49] <bod_> recon, i hope so,.,.;~)
[19:49] <prasanna> anyone here have a music player that lets you browse through using album covers?
[19:49] <reikalusikka> it's the place where my hd is
[19:49] <reikalusikka> Odd-rationale: it's the place where my hd is
[19:49] <_newbie4> recon: if ou ran rm -rf, i highly doubt you have any chance of recovering it, but ghood luck
[19:49] <mad_max02> earthling, no its sata hdd.
[19:49] <hischild> yaro, i had to disable acpi by some undocumented hack ... which got reactivated every update ... or sth like that ... anyway i had enough of it now and i'm all linux <3
[19:50] <earthling> prasanna: amarok is the best player ther is
[19:50] <mad_max02> earthling, I just did chown on that Data dir and I got me full permisions
[19:50] <reikalusikka> Odd-rationale: I mean I don't need to type that dev1?
[19:50] <mad_max02> earthling, what do I have to do to make it permanent ?
[19:50] <prasanna> it doesn't let me browse using album art though
[19:50] <yaro> hischild: Okay. That's good. What is your problem again?
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: The mount point must exist before you can mount anything there. e.g. "sudo mkdir /media/myHD"
[19:50] <earthling> mad_max02: but on next boot the story will be the same!!
[19:50] <prashant> pidgin not work
[19:50] <hischild> yaro, atm nothing ... bod_ helped me out a lot yesterday so i thought it was nothing more then fair to keep him up to date on the progress ...
[19:51] <reikalusikka> Odd-rationale: ok
[19:51] <prashant> connection to the server failed
[19:51] <Squawk> Hey chaps, doesnt a default ubuntu install come with all iptables chains set to "ACCEPT", with no rules?
[19:51] <bod_> hischild, ;~)
[19:51] <david__> is it neccesary to put preload in sessions in order for it to work?
[19:51] <yaro> prashant: Check your server settings.
[19:51] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: Yes. you need to tell what device you want to mount and where you want to mount it.
[19:51] <earthling> madany other partitions you have on the drive that are not giving problems?
[19:51] <prashant> it shows connection is timed out
[19:51] <bod_> hischild, perhaps you would consider giving a helper a snack (!helpersnack)
[19:51] <earthling> mad_max02: any other partitions you have on the drive that are not giving problems?
[19:51] <prashant> plz tell d settings
[19:51] <mad_max02> earthling, yeah thats why I'm asking what should I add to that line to give permanent permisions to user ?
[19:51]  * bod_ is hungry
[19:52] <soneil> Squawk: I didn't think ubuntu came with any default rules?   It concentrates more on having no listening services out of the box instead
[19:52] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: To un-mount do "umount /mnt" or if you mounted to /media/myHD do "umount /media/myHD"
[19:52] <Odd-rationale> * sudo
[19:52] <prashant> yaro r u getting me
[19:52] <ozzilee> Can anyone tell me how to set my WINS server? It's not in network settings.
[19:52] <yaro> prashant: Getting you?
[19:52] <Odd-rationale> reikalusikka: Sorry "sudo umount /media/myHD"
[19:52] <earthling> mad_max02: show the line regarding the partition that is not giving a problem
[19:52] <hischild> !helpersnack
[19:52] <ubotu> Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[19:52] <Squawk> soneil, thats what I thought, but I just got a pm from a user who was having trouble with getting something to work, and he has a huge iptables config from a clean install (he says)
[19:52] <prashant> plz tell d settings
[19:52] <hischild> !helpersnack | bod_
[19:52] <ubotu> bod_: please see above
[19:52] <bod_> hischild, yay,.,.cheers dude,.,.;~)
[19:52] <Squawk> soneil, I can help him with it, but it struck me as odd
[19:53] <hischild> hehe :p
[19:53] <yaro> prashant: What service are you having trouble connecting to?
[19:53] <zg__> Ahoi
[19:53] <prashant> g talk
[19:53] <alanbshepard70> I need help, whenever I try to open a terminal window I see it opening on the bottom of my screen but then it disappears and never shows up.
[19:53] <mad_max02> earthling, I just typed it to you :D     /dev/sdb1   /home/user/Data   ext3    defaults
[19:53] <soneil> Squawk: I'd be tempted to see if their "clean" install has firestarter or similar.   There shouldn't be any defaults, because they'd be incredibly opaque and hard to change for most users
[19:53] <mad_max02> earthling, that the whole line in fstab
[19:53] <yaro> prashant: Give me a sec and I'll look up the settings.
[19:53] <prashant> kkkkkkkkkkk
[19:54] <prasanna> anyone using songbird?
[19:54] <bod_> !anyone | prasanna
[19:54] <ubotu> prasanna: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:54] <prasanna> having trouble gettinv coverflow working on songbird
[19:54] <reikalusikka> Odd-rationale: I get "mount: special device media/elements does not exist"
[19:54] <Squawk> soneil, fair point, certainly im reluctant to get him to change any firewall settings
[19:54] <amenado> Squawk-> easy to check, type sudo iptables -n -vL  to check the rules and policies
[19:54] <bod_> !elaborate | prasanna
[19:54] <yaro> prashant: Make sure your server is set to talk.google.com and the port is 5222.
[19:54] <ubotu> prasanna: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[19:54] <earthling> mad_max02: add "defaults,umask=007"
[19:55]  * bluefoxx is away: lost in his thoughts...or my music and memories{ahh, the memories indeed}
[19:55] <zossso> alanbshepard70: Try ALT+F2, type 'xterm' and see what happens
[19:55] <prashant> ya
[19:55] <Squawk> And amenado, I got him to paste me it, he has a very restrictive firewall
[19:55] <hischild> reikalusikka, make you it starts with a /, so you get /media/elements
[19:55] <stormze1> Is there a FAQ for upgrading thunderbird to find that it didn't keep any of your data?
[19:55] <Pici> !away > bluefoxx
[19:55] <prashant> i have already done dis
[19:55] <yaro> prashant: And you have the right user name and domain?
[19:55] <mad_max02> earthling, you sure that umask is correct for ext3 filesystem ?
[19:55] <reikalusikka> hischild: Tried that too, hmm I think it works now
[19:55] <prashant> but it shows connection is timed out
[19:55] <hischild> reikalusikka, :-) good
[19:55] <prashant> ya
[19:55] <amenado> Squawk-> he must have installed script that installed the rules
[19:55] <alanbshepard70> zossso: That worked to open a terminal window.
[19:55] <prasanna> coverflow, songbird has a similar feature that of itunes, which allow you to browse through using album art. i have songbird installed but no album art :S even with the applets installed
[19:56] <clic1> QUESTION:  how to change size of Terminal, without changing the font? I want it to be able to fit more and have the text stay the same (forever, profile...)
[19:56] <yaro> prashant: Try pinging talk.google.com from the terminal.
[19:56] <zossso> alanbshepard70: Try ALT+F2, type 'gnome-terminal'
[19:56] <earthling> mad_max02: yes . umask is usermask . got nothing to do with file system!!
[19:56] <mohbana> any idea when the icedte plugin is going to be fixed? my azureues refused to start because of it and the mozilla plugin doesn't work either i believe
[19:56] <Squawk> amenado, yeah sounds about right, im guessing as soneil said its probably something like firestarter rather than a script
[19:57] <mohbana> i don't plan on installing the sun's java
[19:57] <mooboos> can anyone fix this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/194214
[19:57] <alanbshepard70> zossso: gnome-terminal did nothing noticable.
[19:57] <earthling> mad_max02: this how it should look like.  "/media/sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1" similar..
[19:58] <soneil> Squawk: firestarter is a script.  it just has a nice gui front-end to it too.   just makes it easier to load iptables rules without realising that's how it's working
[19:58] <earthling> mad_max02: and use tab for different fields
[19:58] <prodigel> Hi. I'm trying to set up a wireless network in ubuntu, nm-applet doesn't seem to repond and iwlist returns no scan result. Can anyone guide me with this?
[19:58] <bod_> alanbshepard70, try typing   gnome-terminal --full-screen
[19:58] <mad_max02> earthling, dude thats for ntfs drive
[19:58] <mad_max02> earthling, I have ext3 drive
[19:58] <prashant> it shows command not found
[19:59] <alanbshepard70> bod_:Still nothing :-\
[19:59] <prashant> it shows command not found
[19:59] <amenado> prodigel-> if iwlist do not show any detected AP, your wifi drivers may not be working correctly.
[19:59] <zossso> alanbshepard70: type 'gnome-terminal' in xterm
[19:59] <mohbana> any idea when the icedte plugin is going to be fixed? my azureues refused to start because of it and the mozilla plugin doesn't work either i believe.  I don't plan on installing the sun's java
[19:59] <prashant> plz tell what command i write
[19:59] <amenado> prashant-> for what task you like to do?
[20:00] <yaro> prashant ping talk.google.com
[20:00] <Squawk> soneil, ahh k, I always configured iptables by hand so never used any of the frontends/scripts available
[20:00] <prodigel> amenado: I remember it working, even nm-applet was showing detected wireless networks, now I can't even start the thing
[20:00] <bod_> alanbshepard70, Synaptic->search "gnome-terminal"-->mark for reinstall-->apply
[20:00] <alanbshepard70> zossso: Ahh that shows an error. if I use pastebin can you take a look at it?
[20:00] <bod_> alanbshepard70, yep!
[20:00] <prasanna> this is exactly what i'm looking for, its for winamp which i know doens't run properly on ubuntu
[20:00] <prasanna> http://dailyapps.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/bento1.jpg
[20:00] <lunks> How to transfer a private key from another computer to my own?
[20:00] <amenado> prodigel-> what are you using now? ethernet if not wireless?
[20:00] <prashant> ping talk.google.com is the command
[20:00] <CorruptTerrorist> hey all. i've fixed the kernel problem but now there is another... after installing the nvidia drivers, ubuntu loads in low grpahics mode
[20:00] <netgear> Hi, does anyone have a dell latitude d800 running 7.10 and have gotten bluetooth working?
[20:00] <prasanna> anyone know of an app that does that in ubuntu? :)
[20:00] <earthling> mad_max02: then set the field to ext3..
[20:01] <lunks> I just bought a new laptop and have plans of using only it.
[20:01] <prasanna> browsing using album covers
[20:01] <prodigel> no, it
[20:01] <earthling> mad_max02: that was just an example
[20:01] <amenado> lunks copy it, via scp or what ever means you have
[20:01] <yaro> prashant: It says ping isn't there?
[20:01] <prodigel> amenado: no it's wired
[20:01] <zossso> alanbshepard70: sure. not familiar with pastebin though
[20:01] <lunks> amenado, but isn't it a private key?
[20:01] <Cpudan80> Hello folks
[20:01] <Cpudan80> Ok so I asked this earlier - but nobody responded, so I'll give it another shot
[20:01] <amenado> lunks so, if its in a file, copy it over
[20:01] <lunks> amenado, how to do it? do i have to export the private key? I'm kinda new on this encryption stuff
[20:02] <lunks> amenado, it's not =P
[20:02] <zossso> alanbshepard70: k. i know pastebin now
[20:02] <amenado> lunks if its not in a file, you are sol, not easy to just copy it from ram memory
[20:02] <alanbshepard70> ok new question, How do I copy/paste from an Xterm window?
[20:02] <rrva> update-manager package does not unpack in dist-upgrade gutsy->hardy. Is it a known issue?
[20:02] <amenado> prodigel-> wired as in ethernet or serial ppp ?
[20:02] <Cpudan80> I want to buy an external monitor for my laptop -- but the monitor will have a resolution *much* higher than the laptop's LCD panel. The gfx card in the laptop is a Radeon 7500 --- it can support the resolution ok --- so that's not a big deal. ANyone know how to setup X so that the external monitor will clone the laptop's screen, but just at a higher res?
[20:02] <earthling> mad_max02: this how it should look for you..  "/dev/sdb1  /home/user/Data  ext3 defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1"
[20:02] <plen0x_> prasanna: look up some media players for linux. XMMS and the like :/
[20:03] <prashant> it shows  PING talk.l.google.com (72.14.253.125) 56(84) bytes of data.
[20:03] <brad01> I'm trying to install ubuntu from  these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux directions
[20:03] <prodigel> is ethernet, connected through some router
[20:03] <yaro> prashant: Anything else?
[20:03] <prasanna> i was able to find somethin called songbird
[20:03] <prashant> ya
[20:03] <amenado> !who  | prodigel
[20:03] <ubotu> prodigel: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[20:03] <prasanna> but due to java issues it doens't seem to work
[20:03] <respawn> hello i'm on ubuntu
[20:03] <brad01> what does: Note that you can't use what will be the root partition for the CD contents, as the installer is stubborn on formatting it (it will fail). mean?
[20:03] <plen0x_> prasanna: so install java :/
[20:03] <ks3> alanbshepard70, if it's standard xterm, you copy by selecting, and paste by right-clicking (or maybe middle-clicking... don't recall)
[20:03] <rrva> Cpudan80: cloning will more or less be at the same res, hence clone
[20:03] <respawn> but i have a little or big probleme i don"t know
[20:03] <yaro> prashana: What did you see aside from that first line?
[20:03] <prashant> after writing dis command it shows  PING talk.l.google.com (72.14.253.125) 56(84) bytes of data.
[20:04] <prasanna> i have
[20:04] <prashant> so wat i do
[20:04] <prodigel> amenado: sorry. I'm connected on utp network
[20:04] <bod_> !enter | prasanna
[20:04] <prasanna> lol apparently its a common issue with later ubuntu versions
[20:04] <ubotu> prasanna: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:04] <Cpudan80> rrva: Alright well, how can I set it up so that way it basically acts as an independent desktop (same menu bars and such)
[20:04] <prasanna> so looking for alternatives right now
[20:04] <rrva> Cpudan80: which driver? ati?
[20:04] <Cpudan80> Yes
[20:04] <yaro> prashant: CTRL + C
[20:04] <rrva> Cpudan80: fglrx ?
[20:04] <Cpudan80> The card isn't great I know
[20:04] <Cpudan80> No not fglrx
[20:04] <amenado> prodigel-> paste in pastebin your ifconfig; iwconfig; ruoute -n ; cat /etc/resolv.conf  so we can give you advise
[20:05] <Cpudan80> fglrx doesnt support the 7500
[20:05] <prodigel> amenado: a moment ...
[20:05] <Cpudan80> Or at least, it never comes up in the restricted drivers thing
[20:05] <yaro> prashant: When you CTRL + C, does it say anything like: 100% packet loss?
[20:05] <prashant> it shows 147 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 146047ms
[20:05] <brad01> Hey Guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu from  these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux directions
[20:05] <prashant> ya
[20:05] <Cpudan80> With Nvidia this would be easy..... but ATI....
[20:05] <yaro> prashant: Okay, we're close to solving your problem. We're probably going to have to change your DNS server to a much better one.
[20:05] <zossso> alanbshepard70: dunno. but you can maybe create a text file from the output? 'gnome-terminal >> debug.txt'
[20:06] <brad01> I need some help
[20:06] <rrva> Cpudan80: Catalyst linux drivers (fglrx) has aticonfig command
[20:06] <prodigel> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m5c92c4e8
[20:06] <prashant> what is the server
[20:06] <alanbshepard70> zossso: I had that same thought, all it does is create an empty file and print the error to the screen
[20:06] <Cpudan80> rrva: How can I add the proprietary driver?
[20:06] <yaro> prashant: System -> Administration -> Network
[20:06] <Cpudan80> rrva: It doesnt show up in restricted drivers
[20:06] <prodigel> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m2d784431
[20:07] <prashant> then
[20:07] <rrva> Cpudan80: it's not supported. use the 'radeon' driver
[20:07] <zossso> alanbshepard70: try 'gnome-terminal &> debug.txt'
[20:07] <clic1> QUESTION:  how to change size of Terminal, without changing the font? I want it to be able to fit more and have the text stay the same (forever, profile...)
[20:07] <amenado> prodigel-> there is your clue ESSID:""
[20:07] <prashant> yaro r u getting me
[20:07] <Cpudan80> rrva: Ok..... how does one do that?
[20:08] <yaro> prashant: Click the DNS tab.
[20:08] <prashant> then
[20:08] <clic1> QUESTION:  how to manage running tasks?  (also how to restart firefox, so that it asks me to restore tabs)
[20:08] <credible> Cpudan80: that's what you're using, "ati" is just a wrapper for "radeon"
[20:08] <rrva> Cpudan80: you probably run it already. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver
[20:08] <prodigel> amenado: ok .... what should I get from that clue?
[20:08] <alanbshepard70> zossso: Ok that worked, thanks.
[20:09] <amenado> prodigel-> not to give out the answer directly, what do you think "" mean to you ?
[20:09] <zossso> alanbshepard70: sure.. I forgot that STDERR will default output to screen
[20:09] <konner> ahh ok
[20:09] <konner> =]
[20:09] <yaro> prashant: Delete that current entry and add a new one with the IP of: 4.2.2.1 (I think.)
[20:09] <prodigel> amenado: That i'm not connected to any network?
[20:09] <JordanC> Yo folks, anyone here remember the song "Run to You" ?
[20:09] <amenado> prodigel-> okay, good answer
[20:09] <konner> Im on Ubuntu Linux 7.10 Gusty Gibbon and im wondering if theres a way to turn on automatic login for this user im on
[20:09] <rrva> Cpudan80: look for mergedfb
[20:09] <yaro> JordanC: This is the wrong channel for that.
[20:09] <Pici> !ot | JordanC
[20:09] <ubotu> JordanC: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:09] <JordanC> :O
[20:09] <JordanC> Ah!
[20:10] <prodigel> amenado: ok .. what next?
[20:10] <JordanC> I forgot I typed that into the wrong channel
[20:10] <JordanC> Sorry about that
[20:10] <amenado> prodigel so the objective is to associate to an AP
[20:10] <prodigel> amenado: as far as I know iwlist should display all detected networks
[20:10] <prodigel> amenado: and mine says no results
[20:10] <amenado> prodigel-> detected does not equate to associated
[20:10] <alanbshepard70> zossso: ok this is the error I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57736/
[20:11] <madsporkmurderer> I am trying to set up a 4 monitor system (using two nvidia geforce 8400gs) and have nearly got it working using the nvidia-settings command. However one of the monitors it refuses to put to a higher resolution than 640x480
[20:11] <amenado> prodigel i said earlier, your driver may have gone funky on you, reload your driver or reboot if you must
[20:11] <konner> Is there a automatic login on UbuntuZ?
[20:11] <zossso> alanbshepard70: are you running xinerama or multiple screens?
[20:11] <Cpudan80> rrva: I'll poke around with the files
[20:11] <bod_> alanbshepard70, run the command again like this        command --sync
[20:11] <caleb_yau> how do i use the virtual terminal? I press f1-f6 i type in my login and password, then i get a ubuntu warranty message and nothing happens
[20:11] <Cpudan80> rrva: thank you
[20:11] <alanbshepard70> zossso: Multiple screens yes
[20:11] <prodigel> amenado: I would very much do that if I knew how. I told you I remember nm-applet working and even showing me detected networks.
[20:11] <prashant> now it shows error resolving talk.google.com name or server not known
[20:12] <beautifulsnow> OMG help I wanted to disable ALT+CLICK from bringing the window menu, and SOMEHOW I made it so that when I LEFT CLICK on ANY window,  it doesn't click, instead, it tries to move the window
[20:12] <prashant> yaro r u there
[20:12] <earthling> prashant: are you able to open other websites?
[20:12] <beautifulsnow> So I cant click menus ;p
[20:12] <cottima> Hello, I am trying to do an netinstall, but my campus uses Cisco Clean Access.  I cannot login onto it unless I have a browser.
[20:12] <Odd-rationale> caleb_yau: Do you see a prompt?
[20:12] <yaro> prashant: Okay, lets try a different address.
[20:12] <prashant> ya
[20:12] <zossso> alanbshepard70: Bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/72956
[20:12] <bod_> beautifulsnow, hahahaha ;~)
[20:12] <amenado> prodigel is this a laptop?
[20:12] <prodigel> amenado: I'm referring to the driver. How can I 'reload it' ?
[20:12] <alanbshepard70> zossso: Got the same error when using gnome-terminal --sync
[20:12] <beautifulsnow> lol ;p
[20:12] <prodigel> yes
[20:12] <earthling> prashant: using web browser
[20:12] <prodigel> amenado: yes
[20:12] <yaro> prashant: Delete the DNS server IP addy I gave you and replace it with: 192.168.15.1
[20:12] <Cpudan80> rrva: Do I need any special packages to use merged FB?
[20:12] <CorruptTerrorist> hey all. i've fixed the kernel problem but now there is another... after installing the nvidia drivers, ubuntu loads in low grpahics mode
[20:13] <caleb_yau> Odd-rationale It prompts me for name and password and then it stops doing anything after it displays some text
[20:13] <amenado> prodigel which chip do you have on your wireless nic? if it was bcm43xx am not touching it..
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> caleb_yau: like [caleb@ubuntu]$_
[20:13] <rrva> Cpudan80: no, don't think so. It's just a lot of xf86-config tuning, and restarting X a dozen times
[20:13] <caleb_yau> Odd-rationale nope
[20:13] <s0u][ight> hi guys
[20:13] <s0u][ight> got my webcam working :D
[20:13] <prodigel> amenado: donno, where should I look? grep dmesg for what?
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> caleb_yau: Something similar?
[20:14] <amenado> CorruptTerrorist-> is that the default selection? look in your xorg.conf
[20:14] <caleb_yau> Odd-rationale no after the text is displayed i cant type anything
[20:14] <earthling> yaro: just curious .. how do you know prashants DNS?
[20:14] <Cpudan80> rrva: got it
[20:14] <alanbshepard70> zossso: Thanks I'm reading up on the bug report you sent the link for.
[20:14] <amenado> prodigel-> yes, dmesg; or lspci, lshw, or udevinfo
[20:14] <zossso> alanbshepard70: sure.  let me know if it works for you
[20:14] <Odd-rationale> caleb_yau: have you tried logging out and logging back in?
[20:14] <yaro> earthling: Say what?
[20:14] <prodigel> amenado: what whould I search for?
[20:14] <konner> nvm i figured out automatic login myself.
[20:14] <amenado> prodigel-> what did i ask you for?
[20:15] <yaro> earthling: That's actually the DNS address I am using.
[20:15] <caleb_yau> Odd-rationale of X Windows? I can try, this seems to be a recurring problem however
[20:15] <prodigel> amenado: no bcm there
[20:15] <earthling> yaro: both of you are on the sam LAN?
[20:15] <zossso> alanbshepard70: the end of this post (Composite) may be the fix -- http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354767#c5
[20:15] <Odd-rationale> caleb_yau: Do you get this problem in gnome-terminal?
[20:16] <yaro> earthling: No.
[20:16] <keito> I need to burn a .bin/cue file to dvd-r.  I have gnomebaker but this seems to be of no use.  I believe cdrecord is the way to go but the command I'm using cdrecord -dao cuefile=test.cue doesn't work any ideas?
[20:16] <amenado> prodigel am just trying to avoid bcm43xx chip, its well known hard to work with chip..thats all
[20:16] <lunks> How can I search for wireless networks actively?
[20:16] <yaro> earthling: I am giving Prashant an address to the DNS server I use, which can resolve talk.google.com correctly.
[20:16] <keito> dao seems to be where its going wrong
[20:16] <alanbshepard70> zossso: I hope this isn't asking to much but maybe you can help with another issue I have. To use my dell computer with a PCI video card I have to follow the steps listed in my bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/191225 is there anyway to fix this issue while install ubuntu with the alt install CD? Even just getting it to boot and installing the nvidia drivers later would be a great help.
[20:17] <keito> error: cdrecord: No tracks specified. Need at least one.
[20:17] <rrva> Cpudan80: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[20:17] <prashant> yaro again it shows the same error
[20:17] <prodigel> amenado: none taken, just I'm not into modules and stuff. Usually I limit myself to some vim/ssh and other simple stuff. I don't have much knowledge about drivers.
[20:17] <lunks> How can I search for wireless networks actively?
[20:17] <ScorpKing> does anyone here know how can i change the usplash theme for the ltsp image so thin-clients have a custom usplash theme? i've tried a few things but i'm only able to change the server's theme. any ideas?
[20:17] <amenado> keito it has to be stored as .bin/.cue? can you not make an .iso of a whole dir and burn the .iso once you make it?
[20:17] <earthling> yaro: is it working for him? ask him?
[20:17] <yaro> prashant: Hmmm...
[20:17] <CorruptTerrorist> amenado, what didi you say before i left?
[20:17] <ScorpKing> it's on edubuntu btw ^
[20:17] <earthling> yaro: i dont think it will work that way?
[20:17] <prashant> now it shows error resolving talk.google.com name or server not known
[20:17] <amenado> CorruptTerrorist-> is that the default selection? look in your xorg.conf
[20:17] <yaro> prashant: Try a web pash, I might have screwed you up.
[20:17] <keito> amenado: i got the file as a bin.
[20:18] <danand> lunks - in a terminal type iwlist <iface_name> scanning i think
[20:18] <CorruptTerrorist> amenado, is what the default selection?
[20:18] <keito> amenado: i think you can convert the bin to iso though perhaps?
[20:18] <amenado> keito so?
[20:18] <prashant> i dont understand what r u telling
[20:18] <earthling> yaro: DNS is through which your internet will work.. his DNS will be different
[20:18] <amenado> CorruptTerrorist-> your resolutions, depth.
[20:18] <amenado> keito it has to be stored as .bin/.cue? can you not make an .iso of a whole dir and burn the .iso once you make it?
[20:18] <CorruptTerrorist> amenado, i can't change them
[20:18] <keito> amenado: I just wanna get this image onto a disc asap ;)
[20:19] <prodigel> amenado: here is some from lshw. Is it useful? http://pastebin.com/m3209b16d
[20:19] <yaro> earthling: I know, but tehre are some servers that are puclicly accessed. I have done this before with wget problems.
[20:19] <amenado> CorruptTerrorist-> you have to sudo to modify xorg.conf
[20:19] <CorruptTerrorist> how?
[20:19] <prashant> yaro r u getting me
[20:19] <keito> amenado: I have no dir to make an iso.  I already have the bin file nothing more
[20:19] <yaro> prashant: I suggest maybe clearing out that addy I gave you and putting your OLD DNS in there.
[20:19] <amenado> prodigel, can you do some legwork, i cant browse for everything..look for someting related to wireless
[20:19] <zossso> alanbshepard70: installing from the alt CD would be a good idea.  I had problems with my SATA drive not recognized.  An Alt CD install worked fine... Give me one minute to look at the website
[20:19] <ph8>  hey guys! I've got a corrupted pen drive! Does anyone know if i can still get the data off it? I can't mount it / run fsck although it is recognised as a device (sdc)
[20:19] <lunks> How can I search for wireless networks actively?
[20:19] <earthling> yaro: k.
[20:19] <keito> amenado: making an iso of the folder that contains the bin file wouldn';t work i'm guessing?
[20:20] <alanbshepard70> zossso: Ok great thanks
[20:20] <earthling> prashant: hindi?
[20:20] <amenado> keito you can create a dir? and put all your files there then make an iso of off the dir
[20:20] <prashant> ya
[20:20] <prashant> bolo
[20:20] <prodigel> amenado: thanks anyways
[20:20] <yaro> prashant: I don't know what else I can do to help you. Perhaps someone else on this channel can.
[20:20] <amenado> keito, i am telling you it works, you can make an iso of a folder
[20:21] <earthling> prashant: tera net kaam kar raha hai.. browser!
[20:21] <jackault> I could translate into hindi if you got something to say to him
[20:21] <prashant> haan
[20:21] <CorruptTerrorist> amenado, where IS my xorg.conf file?
[20:21] <amenado> prodigel its not overly difficult to find...i help you help yourselve
[20:21] <Slart> ph8: what kind of errors do you get if you try to mount it?
[20:21] <ubunt1> En music messaging session har efterfrågats. Var god tryck på MM-ikonen för att acceptera.
[20:21] <earthling> prashant: on that computer that you are trying to connect google talk to
[20:21] <amenado> CorruptTerrorist-> you been playing around with resolution for several days now, you cant remember where it was? hehe
[20:21] <zossso> alanbshepard70: have you tried the alt cd?
[20:22] <jackault> apparently I'm not the only one heh
[20:22] <amenado>   /etc/X11/
[20:22] <Slart> ubunt1: english, please..
[20:22] <keito> amenado: unless I'm missing something.... I have on my computer a folder containing a file called test.bin and test.cue.... are you saying i can create an iso of that folder and burn it and it will create a dvd-r playable in a dvd player?
[20:22] <finalbeta> !bkinfo
[20:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bkinfo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:22] <prashant> pidgin
[20:22] <ubunt1> I just joint in for the first time...  Can anyone help me finding a decent driver for ACER display AL1717???
[20:22] <CorruptTerrorist> amenado, i tried changing it in screens and graphics... brb got to exit low graphics mode
[20:22] <finalbeta> !fstab
[20:22] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[20:22] <ph8> Slart: Well, there's no sdc1 so i can't mount it? There are some read errors in dmesg
[20:22] <keito> amenado: i don't have the original files that were used to create the bin image. so I can't just *create* an iso of those original files...
[20:22] <Slart> ubunt1: you don't need drivers for a display.. it doesn't work?
[20:22] <ph8> i've tried fsck.vfat /dev/sdc
[20:22] <ph8> and that errors
[20:23] <amenado> keito i did not say the dvd-r will be playable, all i said was you can create an iso off of  a directory, besides you were not clear of your goal so i gave you advise on assumptions
[20:23] <ph8> (Read 512 bytes at 0:Input/output error
[20:23] <ph8> )
[20:23] <ph8> gparted says it has negative space(!)
[20:23] <prashant> earthling getting me
[20:23] <alanbshepard70> zossso: Yes. That's how I installed what I'm using now but to get it to work I had to remove my PCI card blacklist the drivers, shutdown, re-install the PCI card, boot to command prompt, reconfigure xorg and then install the nvidia drivers.
[20:23] <prashant> earthling getting me
[20:23] <earthling> prashant:on the advanced option set forece old on
[20:23] <Slart> ph8: well.. if it isn't recognized as a hard drive I doubt you can run fsck on it..
[20:23] <sjs> hi i saw somebody running windows within ubuntu
[20:23] <ph8> indeed
[20:23] <sjs> what did they use?
[20:23] <ph8> any ideas at all?
[20:23] <ubunt1> Nop... Just a blurr  or completely black...
[20:23] <Slart> ph8: have you tried running testdisk on it?
[20:23] <keito> amenado: I think you need to go back and read the original post --> I need to burn a .bin/cue file to dvd-r.  I have gnomebaker but this seems to be of no use.  I believe cdrecord is the way to go but the command I'm using cdrecord -dao cuefile=test.cue doesn't work any ideas? PRETTY CLEAR?!!
[20:24] <amenado> keito, btw what is in this .bin and .cue  a windows game?
[20:24] <alanbshepard70> sjs: Probably VMware
[20:24] <danand> keito - take a look at this link for .bin .cue files - http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/cdrecording/#toc15
[20:24] <zossso> alanbshepard70: I see.
[20:24] <earthling> prashant:connect port 443
[20:24] <sjs> hmm thanks alan!
[20:24] <prashant> i do
[20:24] <keito> danand: ty
[20:24] <Slart> ubunt1: a blur?? I couldn't make my computer create a blur if I wanted to.. you mean you see something on the screen.. but it's blurred?
[20:24] <yaro> prashant: I am sorry I could not help you. D:
[20:24] <prashant> then
[20:24] <alanbshepard70> sjs: Checkout the synaptic package manager and install VMWare server for free if you'd like to do it as well.
[20:24] <keito> amenado: no. it is not a windows game.  it's a video file (.avi)
[20:24] <Slart> !info testdisk
[20:24] <ubotu> testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[20:24] <prashant> its okkkkkkkkkk
[20:24] <keito> amenado: cheers anyways ;)
[20:24] <prashant> yaro
[20:24] <amenado> keito did you mention anything there that your iso has to play in a dvd-r ? you just said you want to burn..
[20:25] <earthling> prashant:server talk.google.com
[20:25] <keito> amenado: I have NO ISO!!!
[20:25] <Slart> ph8: it's the only thing I know of that might be able to see some files.. or tell you what's wrong
[20:25] <prashant> then
[20:25] <amenado> keito well good luck
[20:25] <sjs> alanbshepard70: hmm thanks for ur help i'll try it out on my laptop now
[20:25] <earthling> prashant:then save
[20:25] <prashant> after server
[20:25] <keito> amenado: cheers
[20:25] <alanbshepard70> sjs: You're most welcome.
[20:25] <jackault> Prashant: Google already has a help page with detailed instructions for getting pidgin up and running with gtalk.
[20:26] <ubunt1> Yes and obviously has someone experienced the same because there is a script around - but I can figure out how to make a driver file from it
[20:26] <respawn> hello , i have install grub for multiboot with windows xp and linux but now i can start linux but not windows xp i have message error : invalid device requested
[20:26] <respawn> si how get a good start ?
[20:26] <zossso> alanbshepard70: Did you disable the onboard 'after' your install?
[20:27] <prashant> jackault would u give m the url
[20:27] <jackault> http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en-ca&answer=24073
[20:27] <alanbshepard70> zossso: yes.
[20:27] <danand> kieto - think i used the bchunk utility in the past for converting bin/cue to iso :)
[20:27] <sjs> alanbshepard70: i check everything that pops up from the synaptic package manager when i search for vmware?
[20:27] <hischild> danand, yeah bchunk works perfectly for that
[20:27] <alanbshepard70> zossso: If it's possible to do during install I don't know how.
[20:27] <prashant> earthling r u there
[20:28] <yaro> prashant: Please be a little patient.
[20:28] <keito> how do I find out which device is my cd/dvd drive?
[20:28] <zossso> alanbshepard70: Sorry, I mean disabling it in the BIOS?
[20:28] <Scunizi> keito, i found that a .bin file is a compressed image file like an iso.. you might be able to uncompress it then use k3b or whatever for burning to a dvd for playback.. checkout #1
[20:28] <yaro> keito: Should be /dev/cdrom
[20:28] <respawn> i cannot start now windows xp :(
[20:28] <konner_> whats a easy way to install the nvidia drivers
[20:28] <danand> kieto - look in your /etc/fstab file
[20:28] <Scunizi> keito, sorry  http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/12/05/open-extract-and-convert-daa-iso-and-bin-files-in-linux-with-free-poweriso-for-linux/
[20:28] <Slart> keito: or /dev/dvd  .. or /dev/scd
[20:29] <earthling> prashant:as jackault says... follow that.. but make sure your net is working.... you should be getting 0% loss on "ping www.google.com" ctrl+c to exit
[20:29] <keito> Scunizi: cheers bro
[20:29] <alanbshepard70> zossso: My BIOS doesn't support disabling the onboard driver and from what I've read even the dell with a BIOS that lets you do that still have the same problem anyway.
[20:29] <konner_> whats a easy way to install the nvidia drivers
[20:29] <Slart> keito: do a "cat /etc/mtab" and see if anything in there uses a cd filesystem
[20:29] <respawn> anyone can help me please i'm beginer :(
[20:29] <Scunizi> keito, is that what you're looking for?
[20:29] <eth01> earthling, no, wrong. not for everybody.
[20:29] <Slart> konner_: restricted drivers
[20:29] <keito> Scunizi: should be ;)
[20:29] <jackault> earthling: If he's here asking for help then isn't his net working anyway?
[20:29] <Slart> konner_: or rather.. the restricted drivers manager
[20:29] <Slart> !restricted
[20:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:29] <danand> keito - trial and error with the eject command works too :) ie eject /dev/cdrom will pop the drawer out on your cd drive if its the correct device!
[20:29] <keito> Slart: yaro: thank you
[20:29]  * bluefoxx is away: lost in his thoughts...or my music and memories{ahh, the memories indeed}
[20:29] <Scunizi> keito, please deposit 100 pesos into my international help fund... :)
[20:30] <keito> danand: nice one
[20:30] <Slart> you're welcome, keito
[20:30] <LjL-Temp> !away > bluefox83
[20:30] <danand> Kieto - did you get my last about bchunk utility?
[20:30] <earthling> prashant: may be he is on other computer on xchat and trying to configure it on other comp.. that what i thiought
[20:30] <eth01> LjL-Temp
[20:30] <keito> Scunizi: LOL will do....... ;)
[20:30] <eth01> he's already been told ^ ;)
[20:30] <LjL-Temp> uhm, the other bluefox i guess
[20:30] <zossso> alanbshepard70: wow.
[20:30] <keito> danand: no?
[20:30] <bod_> guys, can you upgrade to hardy, then downgrade to gutsy without a problem? how would you go about doing it?
[20:30] <respawn> hello , i have install grub for multiboot with windows xp and linux but now i can start linux but not windows xp i have message error : invalid device requested
[20:30] <danand> kieto - think i used the bchunk utility in the past for converting bin/cue to iso :)
[20:30] <credible> bod_: no
[20:31] <keito> danand: ahh was it a link? just got it
[20:31] <credible> bod_: downgrading is explictly not supported
[20:31] <yaro> bod_: Why are you doing that?
[20:31] <credible> explicitly*
[20:31] <bod_> credible, yaro, not me, asking for someone in #winehq
[20:31] <Squawk> redmonkey, can you paste your menu.lst in a pastebin and link to it
[20:31] <earthling> jackault: yaro got him to ping google and he got 100% loss that got me concerned..
[20:31] <danand> kieto - you can do an sudo apt-get install bchunk to get that. if i remember right it was easy to use
[20:31] <rambo3> how do i change group permission to read and write ?
[20:31] <konner_> it says nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[20:32] <jarrettgreen> What switch to I use to chmod a dir but also ALL of the sub folders and items IN that directory
[20:32] <Squawk> rambo3, chmod g+rw file
[20:32] <credible> jarrettgreen: -R
[20:32] <respawn> anyone can help me please ?
[20:32] <Squawk> jarrettgreen, chmod -R
[20:32] <credible> be very careful with that though
[20:32] <prashant> now it shows ssl connection failed
[20:32] <Tido> how can I figure out the drive names for my main partition and my swap partition? Like sda1, 2, etc?
[20:32] <jackault> earthling: Ah, alright.
[20:32] <jarrettgreen> credible - because you can't undo it?
[20:32] <rambo3> Squawk, no
[20:33] <konner_> what do i do if nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[20:33] <jackault> earthling: I bet he typed "ping google" ;)
[20:33] <credible> jarrettgreen: right
[20:33] <respawn> anyone can see me ? :o
[20:33] <Squawk> rambo3, how no? it works?
[20:33] <ScorpKing> what package do i need to use desklets or screenlets?
[20:33] <menisk_> respawn, no
[20:33] <Squawk> respawn,cant see you
[20:33] <respawn> a ok
[20:33] <respawn> i'm alive
[20:33] <respawn> ^
[20:33] <respawn> ^^
[20:33] <earthling> prashant: did you have the ssl option checked?
[20:34] <cottima> is there a browser on the netinstall cd?
[20:34] <respawn> so anyone have a good idea for my probleme ?
[20:34] <prashant> noooooooooo
[20:34] <ScorpKing> is there something for gnome like superkaramba on kde?
[20:34] <jarrettgreen> credible - it's my public folder in apche - would I be ok chmod modding everything to 755? I'm having trouble including some .js files after moving them to an includes folder
[20:34] <ph8> gay
[20:34] <rambo3> Squawk, no it doesn't , i was asking for group policy . for www-data f.ex. if you upload file it has no read right in its own directory
[20:34] <Kate_mins> hello, i have 4 files of text , and i want to merge them in specipic order how can i do that using "cat" command ?
[20:34] <Squawk> respawn, yeah sorry, I actualy pasted to redmonkey by misatke
[20:34] <konner_> what do i do if nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[20:35] <respawn> ah
[20:35] <respawn> ok
[20:35] <respawn> =)
[20:35] <earthling> prashant: k. what was the proxy type?
[20:35] <prashant> no proxy
[20:35] <earthling> prashant: the last option in advanced tab
[20:35] <danhs> hey, I have a rather simple question.....if I want to move a config file, vsftpd, in this case...what's the best way to make /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf the active config file instead of /etc/vsftpd.conf?
[20:35] <respawn> Squawk,  i can past the menu.list in query with you ?
[20:35] <Squawk> respawn,c can you put your menu.lst in a pastebin and link to it so I can take a look, and also the output of running fdisk, and then p (print partition tables)
[20:35] <respawn> beacause i don"t want flood the channel
[20:35] <prashant> gnome proxy
[20:35] <Squawk> respawn, yeah go for it
[20:35] <earthling> prashant: use global proxy settings
[20:35] <danhs> I realize I can just monkey around in /etc/init.d/vsftpd, but I figure that would screw up debian apt-get and all that
[20:35] <danhs> seems unwise
[20:36] <noelferreira> does anyone knows how to get rt61 wirelles driver working without loosing connection?
[20:36] <keito> danand: thanks again
[20:36] <jarrettgreen> how do I see what the chmod already is on a file?
[20:36] <ubunt1> There are some script on other ubuntu - sites. But they just say that I shall use the terminal window which is impossible in the initial  installation. And there are WINDOWS-XP drivers from ACER at their support site
[20:36] <Squawk> jarrettgreen, ls -l shows permissions
[20:36] <prashant> there is no such option
[20:36] <konner_> Can someone help me......
[20:37] <earthling> prashant: k..
[20:37] <jackault> konner_: Enable it?
[20:37] <prashant> now my brouser not work
[20:37] <Squawk> respawn, pm not here?
[20:37] <konner_> How do i enable it...
[20:38] <konner_> nvm
[20:38] <Kate_mins> how can i merge files in specific order using "cat" command ?
[20:38] <earthling> prashant:  if the browser is not working then may be your net is down
[20:38] <danand> keito - no problem
[20:38] <Squawk> karmue, whichever is first will be first in the output
[20:39] <Squawk> Kate_mins:,  whichever is first will be first in the output
[20:39] <suxxor> when mark all files is home and click properties and than permissions it says that i am not an owner and I can`t change these permissions , i ask about this because before i log in the session it shows one warning about this permissions but i can`t understand what to do
[20:39] <Squawk> karmue, sorry wrong tab complete
[20:39] <prashant> but before changing d setting it works properly
[20:39] <karmue> Squawk: no problem
[20:39] <Squawk> Kate_mins, ie cat file1 file2 file3 > newfile, will put them in that order
[20:39] <respawn> Squawk can u accepte my files please
[20:40] <prashant> earthling
[20:40] <prashant> earthling r u there
[20:40] <Squawk> respawn, I never got offered them. Did you try to dcc? just copy and paste in a query
[20:40] <respawn> ok
[20:40] <earthling> prashant:  changing the settings of pidgin will noteffect your net conn
[20:40] <earthling> prashant:  dont worry
[20:40] <earthling> prashant: you in some iit?
[20:41] <prashant> i change d ip of dns
[20:41] <Guest_294> Hi some help please I am trying to install 7.10 and can't get the nic to work I set as DHCP or static w/proper # and is not working any pointers website tutorials that anyone knows about?
[20:41] <prashant> noooooooo
[20:41] <prashant> in kiit
[20:41] <cottima> is the desktop install cd a live cd too?
[20:41] <prashant> r u in iit
[20:41] <earthling> prashant: dont play with the DNS please..it will make you loose the internet connection
[20:42] <gnarlyc> yest cottima
[20:42] <noelferreira> does anyone knows how to get rt61 wirelles driver working without loosing connection?
[20:42] <Guest_294> Is 7.10 problematic w/wired nic?
[20:42] <zossso> alanbshepard70: This is the best I could find.  Looks the same as your process but mentions 'envy' -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=492120  -- bummer
[20:42] <Squawk> respawn, still no pm, can you paste in a pastebin service and link to it?
[20:42] <erUSUL> Kate_mins: cat file1 file2 file3...filen   ??
[20:42] <prashant> plz tell d ip
[20:43] <toremees> hi
[20:43] <alanbshepard70> zossso: Thanks for taking the time to help me out. I'll start reading, thanks again.
[20:43] <earthling> prashant: i  cant ..
[20:43] <zossso> alanbshepard70: not a problem.
[20:43] <prashant> kkkkkkk
[20:43] <prashant> byeeeeeeeeeeee
[20:44] <toremees> Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy on Lenovo T60
[20:44] <earthling> prashant: do you know any one into linux in your college then ask him
[20:44] <_leon_> can somebody help, i cant login on root
[20:44] <ubunt1> I am leaving now - my lady is calling, Please check AL1717-scripts and let me know how to make the system identifying the text as a driver command.
[20:44] <toremees> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=683000
[20:44] <_leon_> sudo su or sudo -i command not work :S
[20:44] <earthling> prashant: first hand help is always better
[20:44] <prashant> where r u
[20:44] <sd32> !hardy herron
[20:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy herron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:44] <sd32> !hardy
[20:44] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:44] <earthling> prashant: fy?
[20:44] <earthling> prashant: y?
[20:45] <CorruptTerrorist> can someone help me change my screen resolution to 1680x1050@60hz ?
[20:45] <respawn> all past done Squawk
[20:45] <respawn> hum Squawk  where i find this ?
[20:45] <respawn> i'm beginer ^^
[20:45] <toremees> same issue, suddenly folders wont open any more
[20:45] <prashant> earthling u belong to which coll
[20:45] <toremees> lenovo t60 ununtu 7.10
[20:45] <toremees> whats the reason ?
[20:46] <earthling> prashant: nit, trichi
[20:46] <toremees> does anybody had such issue ?
[20:46] <Squawk> respawn, something fishy going on then, since I dont see any queries
[20:46] <Squawk> respawn, one sec il get url for a pastebin
[20:46] <prashant> branch
[20:46] <mmschnei> My dual monitor setup just stopped being dual, nvidia-settings now only shows one monitor, yet both are on, the output from monitor 1 is being copied to monitor 2, anyone have any ideas how to fix this? I didn't explicitly make any changes, not sure what happened.
[20:46] <Squawk> respawn: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[20:47] <HoNgOuRu> how do I set my wifi pci card in passive mode??? thanks just for reading this
[20:47] <respawn> ok thx Squawk
[20:47] <earthling> prashant: sorry couldnt help..  and lets just keep it to ubuntu.. dont want to get kicked
[20:47] <mmschnei> Xorg.0.log shows no relevant Errors
[20:47] <prashant> okkkkkkkk
[20:48] <respawn> Squawk
[20:48] <Guest_294> !ethernet
[20:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:48] <respawn> Squawk i past the url in query
[20:48] <CorruptTerrorist> can someone help me change my screen resolution to 1680x1050@60hz ?
[20:48] <vitaliy> hello
[20:48] <Squawk> respawn, hokay, but since I dont seem to be getting queries, that wont work
[20:48] <vitaliy> can someone link me to the official Release Notes/Change Log for Ubuntu versions?
[20:49] <Squawk> respawn, paste in here, nobody can get anything thats troubling from it, and someone else might help too ;)
[20:49] <respawn> so i past here ?
[20:49] <vitaliy> I am looking at the release notes, and it looks like a list of known bugs with the release
[20:49] <respawn> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d178b4ad4
[20:49] <ubunt1> En music messaging session har efterfrågats. Var god tryck på MM-ikonen för att acceptera.
[20:49] <ubunt1> En music messaging session har efterfrågats. Var god tryck på MM-ikonen för att acceptera.
[20:50] <Itaku> someone hacked my msn account how do i get it back?
[20:50] <claudio76> hi to all... i'm italian (so....sorry for my bad english). I have a great problem...i'm not able to shut my gutsy down...when i try to shut it down, usplash appears....the orange stripe goes down to zero and then it stops....it seems that the hard disk goes down (i can hear the sound of it switching off) but the computer is still on with the ubuntu logo on the monitor...ah....i have a dell inspiron 531 with an ati 2400
[20:50] <Itaku> someone hacked my msn account how do i get it back?
[20:50] <Squawk> Itaku, contact msn
[20:50] <Itaku> i did a week ago
[20:50] <sd132> wtf somebody stole my nic and its still registered to me????????????
[20:50] <Itaku> they did crap
[20:51] <Squawk> Itaku, im guessing ubuntu people will be able to do less
[20:51] <CorruptTerrorist> can someone help me change my screen resolution to 1680x1050@60hz ?
[20:51] <Itaku> craaaaaaaaaaaap
[20:51] <Squawk> respawn, what error do you get when you try to boot windows?
[20:51] <erUSUL> !fixres | CorruptTerrorist
[20:51] <ubotu> CorruptTerrorist: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:51] <respawn> Squawk invalid device requested
[20:52] <toremees> CorruptTerrorist: why'd not setting your parameters onto xorg.conf ?
[20:52] <CorruptTerrorist> erUSUL, i've tried that, and that too toremees
[20:52] <sd132> sd32,whty did you steal my nic?
[20:52] <claudio76> hi to all... i'm italian (so....sorry for my bad english). I have a great problem...i'm not able to shut my gutsy down...when i try to shut it down, usplash appears....the orange stripe goes down to zero and then it stops....it seems that the hard disk goes down (i can hear the sound of it switching off) but the computer is still on with the ubuntu logo on the monitor...ah....i have a dell inspiron 531 with an ati 2400
[20:52] <Squawk> respawn, can you describe your drive setup. Ie, number of hard drives, partitioning. In particular, the location of windows partition, and the location of the linux root partition
[20:52] <earthling> mad_max02: did the mount work?
[20:53] <erUSUL> claudio76: have you found something on the logs that could explain the "freeze" ??
[20:53] <amenado> claudio76-> try to do this   sudo ifdown eth0;  (shutdown all your interfaces ) then you can issue the shutdown command or click to shutdown
[20:53] <toremees> this must be on the default resolution line
[20:53] <zossso> mmschnei: I've had a similar problem and somehow fixed it.  Give me a little while and I'll try to help you
[20:53] <toremees> what is your default 8,16,24 ???
[20:53] <claudio76> erUSUL: i don't know how to check the log
[20:53] <toremees> set this to the default resolution line in xorg.conf
[20:53] <Guest_294> !dhcp
[20:53] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[20:54] <sd132> thats wierd,   i now have two nics with out doing anything
[20:54] <claudio76> amenado: but it's not connected to a router at the moment.....
[20:54] <Guest_294> !dhclient
[20:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:54] <respawn> Squawk,  windows xp 1 and windows xp 2 are installed on /dev/hdb1 linux are installed on /dev/sda6
[20:55] <joetotale> hi all, trying to install 7.10 64-bit from the live + install CD. I get as far as the menu offering 'run & install', 'install safe graphic mode' etc.  Whichever install method I choose my (old) LCD monitor shuts down.
[20:55] <Veinor> I tried installing eclipse via apt-get and I didn't get any offline documentation; is there any way I can get it?
[20:55] <joetotale> how can I set the resolution?
[20:55] <Guest_294> !static ip
[20:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about static ip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:55] <Squawk> respawn, 2 windows installs? k
[20:55] <respawn> yes
[20:55] <respawn> on one disque
[20:55] <erUSUL> claudio76: System>Admin>System Events (Sucesos del sistema in spanish) also on /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog
[20:56] <Squawk> respawn, ok the only thing that looks iffy to me is the two "map" lines, but I have never come accross an install that has 2 installs of windows
[20:56] <Guest_294> !ifconfig
[20:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:56] <toremees> someone had issues with nautilus on lenovo t60 (suddenly folders not opening any more) ?
[20:56] <claudio76> ersthanks...let me check.....ahhhhhhh.....after grub i have "starting up..." on black screen (and it stays there a bit too much)
[20:57] <Squawk> respawn, I would try commenting out the lines with map, and see what effect that is. Also, have a go at changing root to rootnoverify
[20:57] <respawn> ok
[20:57] <earthling> Guest_294: why do you need nic to work during installation?
[20:57] <amenado> claudio76-> do you do a sync; sync; sync before shutting the system down? if not, do this as a habit..sync before shutting down
[21:00] <hendrixski> Is there any good open source inventory software anybody would recommend?
[21:00] <BarryToeman> claudio76: does it shutdown properly with "sudo shutdown -h now"?
[21:00] <finn_> what do you want to invent?
[21:00] <rycole> hey guys. im about to download and install ubuntu on my desktop. im not sure which one to get, though. i see there are several kinds - gobuntu, edubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu
[21:01] <rycole> is there one that's 'best' for a desktop user?
[21:01] <claudio76> amenado: i don't know what a sync is...please help me......ah...i'm reading syslog and i se "[fglrx] Receive enable interrupt message with irqEnableMask: 20000400
[21:01] <Guest_294> !wake on lan
[21:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wake on lan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:01] <danand> claudio76 - i have just done a quick google about your problem .... some posts suggest your problem may be solved by passing the apci=force command to the kernel at boot time.
[21:01] <Tu13es> rycole: I'd say just plain ubuntu
[21:01] <claudio76> wait wait....what should i do?
[21:01] <Tu13es> but I've only used that and kubuntu
[21:02] <amenado> claudio76-> sync means to flush the write buffers to hd if it has not done so yet..  man sync  for more explanations
[21:02] <claudio76> i'm a newbie.....please be patient with me
[21:02] <danand> claudio76 - are you using kde desktop?
[21:02] <_Oz_> We will, claudio76.
[21:02] <_Oz_> You're in good hands here.
[21:02] <claudio76> danand: no...i have gnome
[21:02] <claudio76> _Oz_: thanks
[21:02] <claudio76> so?
[21:02]  * amenado spreads  a big safety net for claudio76 
[21:03] <claudio76> :)
[21:03] <respawn> Squawk u can see the 2 disque dur there
[21:03] <respawn> http://www.hiboox.com/lang-fr/resultat.php?img=934nfo69.png&error=0#
[21:03] <respawn> http://www.hiboox.com/lang-fr/image.php?img=59qobxko.png
[21:03] <FloodBot2> respawn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <noelferreira> does anyone knows how to get rt61 wireless driver working without loose the connection all the time?
[21:03] <jolenzy> good evening :)
[21:04] <claudio76> i have come here cause in ubuntu-it they've not been able to solve my problem
[21:04] <mehrab> hi everyone
[21:04] <Link> hi!! could someone help me with samba+ldap issue?
[21:04] <l815> are there any good python compilers?
[21:04] <danand> claudio76 - there is a post in the forums conceerning just this prob - it suggests adding acpi=force to the kernel parameters at boot time to solve the problem - do you know how to do this?
[21:04] <claudio76> i'm trying to write in english in best way i can
[21:04] <mehrab> how can I move my home directory to another partiotin?
[21:04] <claudio76> danand: ehmmmm...no
[21:05] <amenado> mehrab-> is the new /home ready?
[21:05] <CorruptTerrorist> AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH...
[21:05] <Squawk> respawn, that looks like at least one of the windows is on the sda device. Change the grub entry to (hd2,0) instead of (hd1,0)
[21:05] <CorruptTerrorist> i need a solution
[21:05] <mehrab> amenado: no, but I can make it
[21:05] <claudio76> danand: will this have influence only when i'll shut it down? i'm scared cause i'm able to turn it on
[21:05] <amenado> mehrab-> well have it ready and ask again
[21:05] <_Oz_> really simple ubuntu problem here.  I keep my mp3 collection on a mounted NTFS drive.  Every time I access the drive I have to enter my admin password.  When I want to play mp3s in amarok, the files are all greyed out until I access the HD and use the password to get in.  How do I get around this?
[21:05] <Squawk> respawn, can you paste methe output of running fdisk, and then pressing "p", in another pastebin
[21:07] <claudio76> danand: ehmmm...are you still there? ...just to know it
[21:07] <noelferreira> does anyone knows how to get rt61 wireless driver working without loose the connection all the time?
[21:07] <earthling> _0z_: chmod for that drive
[21:07] <_Oz_> earthling: how?
[21:07] <joetotale> polite bump re: my Q about setting monitor resolution at live CD install menu :)
[21:07] <respawn> Squawk for fdisk
[21:07] <respawn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57742/
[21:07] <danand> claudio76 - its quite simple .... you just need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file... first make a backup of your file ... type sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.orig
[21:07] <Faust-C> what gnome launchers are out there like AWN (avant window navigator)
[21:07] <_Oz_> earthling: I right click on the drive but I'm not allowed to change permissions in "properties"
[21:07] <earthling> _0z_: what are the permission for the drive now?
[21:07] <_Oz_> read only
[21:08] <Faust-C> i cant seem to find AWN in any of the repos ..
[21:08] <earthling> _0z_: what is the path?
[21:08] <_Oz_> the owner is root
[21:08] <Faust-C> and i cant remember any other launchers
[21:08] <claudio76> danand: ok...already done it....i've changed the resolutions before
[21:08] <_Oz_> path is /media/151 GB
[21:08] <danand> claudio76 - patience - i type sloooowwww :]
[21:08] <claudio76> danand: ah no wait....i've not done it....wait
[21:08] <CorruptTerrorist> i would appreciate it SO much if someone could give me a solution to my problem... after i install the latest nVidia drivers, i restart gdm, which boots in SAFE GRAPHICS MODE!!! ARGH!!!
[21:09] <Squawk> respawn, sorry I should have been more specific. You need to run it for each disk. So, fdisk /dev/sda, or fdisk /dev/hdb
[21:09] <noelferreira> does anyone knows how to get rt61 wireless driver working without loose the connection all the time?
[21:09] <earthling> _0z_: open the terminal . go to that path and "ls -l" it will have the first column as drxx--
[21:09] <respawn> ok
[21:09] <mehrab> amenado: ok, what should I do now?
[21:09] <amenado> mehrab-> is the new /home ready?
[21:09] <mehrab> amenado: yes
[21:09] <amenado> mehrab-> how many users do you want moved
[21:09] <amenado> ?
[21:10] <_Oz_> earthling: drwxrwxrwx
[21:10] <ArmyMan007> hi all...
[21:10] <_Oz_> earthling: that's what it says by "151 GB"
[21:10] <mehrab> amenado: just one
[21:10] <_Oz_> earthling: should be 777, right?
[21:10] <earthling> _0z_: then you must not be having any prob!
[21:10] <amenado> mehrab-> you have a /home/username  created?  what is the permission you assigned to that dir?
[21:10] <_Oz_> earthling: I can't adjust permissions though
[21:10] <earthling> _0z_: you have given full permissionns
[21:10] <claudio76> danand: ok...done it!!!! i made a copy...now i suppose i have to type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  !?!?!?!
[21:10] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> waz up?
[21:11] <ArmyMan007> i just wanted to know which linux i should use if i want to use the host computer internet connection (i want to use a USB flash linux, not install a linux via USB)
[21:11] <_Oz_> earthling: by default, every time I boot this machine up, amarok launches and all of the files on that drive are greyed out
[21:11] <Darkmystere> errdil, i cant get internet to work in Ubuntu wicd says its connected but firefox doesnt go to the homepage
[21:11] <Darkmystere> Anyways think getting a new driver would help because the other day i was messing with internet connection sharing...
[21:11] <Darkmystere> but then again can some one help plz?
[21:11] <danand> claudio76 - almost - type gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:11] <_Oz_> earthling: I have to put the password in by going to computer->151 GB and then amarok works
[21:11] <mehrab> amenado: how should i set permissions?
[21:11] <Link> HI!! anyone could help me with samba+ldap issue????
[21:11] <earthling> _0z_: k
[21:11] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> you had the liveCD ..thats good enuff..however to make it run off of a usb drive there are extra steps to do
[21:12] <claudio76> danand: ok...done it
[21:12] <earthling> _0z_: how does your fstab for 151 GB look like
[21:12] <amenado> mehrab-> how is your /home/username set now?
[21:12] <_Oz_> earthling: so what's going on, do you know?
[21:12] <CorruptTerrorist> i would appreciate it SO much if someone could give me a solution to my problem... after i install the latest nVidia drivers, i restart gdm, which boots in SAFE GRAPHICS MODE!!! ARGH!!!
[21:12] <respawn> Squawk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57743/
[21:12] <ArmyMan007> !amenado what kind of extra steps?
[21:12] <ArmyMan007> oops...
[21:12] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: did you do a full reboot?
[21:12] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, yep
[21:13] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> to tell the pc it can boot off of the usb drive  and maybe some initrd stuff..
[21:13] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: did you install via the restricted drivers manager?
[21:13] <mehrab> amenado: I dont know what do you mean by how
[21:13] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> do you have one of those usb hard disk?
[21:13] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, no... i had to use the linux installer
[21:13] <Squawk> respawn, ok so the drives you want mounted for windows are sda1 and hdb1? that right?
[21:13] <ArmyMan007> amenado: no
[21:13] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: its better to use the restricted drivers manager
[21:13] <earthling> _0z_: "cat /etc/fstab" what does the line containing 151 GB look like?
[21:13] <nicolah> is http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ down ?
[21:13] <amenado> mehrab what is your  username ?   /home/?
[21:14] <clic1> QUESTION: How to manage running tasks? I went to end the firefox task.
[21:14] <danand> claudio76 - ok scroll down to the bottom of the file .... you'll see an entry for your kernel - you should see a line like  -   title     Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic    - under that a line that begins     root       (hd.... etc      then under that a line that starts kernel     /vmlinuz ..... etc
[21:14] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, i would if i could
[21:14] <claudio76> danand: ah rember also that when i turn the pc on, after grub, the words "starting up..." are on my screen for a too long time....anyway...
[21:14] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: cant you uninstall what you did?
[21:14] <ArmyMan007> amenado: is that the only way i can use the local computer's internet connection? by having a USB HD?
[21:14] <mehrab> /home/mehrab
[21:14] <respawn> Squawk maybe i don"t know i do just i have windows in same disk =)
[21:14] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> i have installed it on a usb hard disk, the laptop supports booting off of a usb hd..so it work flawlessly
[21:14] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, yeah, and i do when it fails
[21:14] <earthling> clic1: "ps -ef |grep firefox"
[21:14] <mehrab> amenado: /home/mehrab
[21:14] <claudio76> danand: yes...i see it
[21:14] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: what?
[21:15] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> but if using a USB thumb drive..i think there is the extra steps..
[21:15] <[T]an1> getting the following error when opening k3b and other similar applications:
[21:15] <[T]an1> No CD/DVD writer found.
[21:15] <[T]an1> K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or ISO9660 image creation.
[21:15] <amenado> mehrab-> and the new one?
[21:15] <respawn> Squawk i have one disk for two windows xp and sd6 is for linux =)
[21:15] <earthling> clic1: you will get the PID column value... type-- "kill -9 PID"
[21:15] <ArmyMan007> amenado: can u expand on that?
[21:15] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, as soon as the drivers failed, i uninstalled them
[21:15] <danand> claudio76 - the line that starts kernel is the one you want to edit ..... goto the end of the line and add    acpi=force
[21:15] <mehrab> amenado: /home
[21:15] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> you can use the liveCD but its a bit slower
[21:15] <iKap> hi how can i check which broadcom card/chip i have in my laptop?!
[21:15] <Darkmystere> Anyways think getting a new driver would help because the other day i was messing with internet connection sharing...
[21:15] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: so why cant you try the restricted drivers manager?
[21:15] <Darkmystere> but then again can some one help plz?
[21:15] <ArmyMan007> amenado: and i can't connet to the internet...
[21:15] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, it's an 8800gt
[21:16] <_Oz_> earthling: how do I fstab
[21:16] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> the usb pen drive is slightly different beast..
[21:16] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: ah, then maybe its not supported yet
[21:16] <ArmyMan007> amenado: how so?
[21:16] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: which sucks
[21:16] <Squawk> respawn, I would make 2 different entries for windows in menu.lst. One where you have "Title=windows, root (hd2,0), makeactive, chainloader +1", that needs to go on four lines, and will give you an option to load the first of your windows installs. you need to do pretty much the same for your second windows install (call it windows2), but have root (hd1,0) instead. ANd that should work
[21:16] <earthling> _0z_: run in terminal "cat /etc/fstab" what does the line containing 151 GB look like?
[21:16] <claudio76> danand:  ok....save and i try to close.....ok?
[21:16] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> if you can boot off of a liveCD, then you can click on System->Adminstration->Network  here you can select your interfaces and connect to the internet
[21:16] <_Oz_> earthling: got it
[21:16] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, considering that nvidia offers linux/ubuntu drivers for the card, it's obviously supported
[21:16] <danand> claudio76 - yep thats it
[21:17] <ArmyMan007> amenado: i've already tried that, but it is not working
[21:17] <earthling> _0z_: show that particular line
[21:17] <_Oz_> earthling: http://pastebin.com/daedbd24
[21:17] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: well, its supported by nvidia, but ubuntu has a lag of support sometimes
[21:17] <respawn> ok
[21:17] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: so, in ubuntu, it might not be supported
[21:17] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> i dont have the details off top of my head regarding the differences on usb pen drive and a usb hd..but you can google for ubuntu on usb disk, and it will tell you that
[21:17] <mrkus> hi, wie darf ich folgenden fehler bei dem versuch der installation des licurl3-paketes verstehen/beheben? -> http://nopaste.php-quake.net/18018
[21:17] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> what have you tried?
[21:17] <earthling> _0z_: just a min
[21:18] <respawn> Squawk that's nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[21:18] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, considering there are multiple howto's, i know it works
[21:18] <amenado> mehrab-> you have two separate partitions name /home ?
[21:18] <ArmyMan007> amenado: A) take it easy, i'm not looking for quick reply answers... B) i've tried to connect to the internet via the USB ubuntu boot, and it did not connect
[21:18] <claudio76> danand: it doesn't work :(
[21:18] <respawn> Squawk can u paste me the setting for this on paste site please :)
[21:18] <Squawk> respawn, yeah
[21:18] <Squawk> respawn, sure, one sec
[21:19] <ArmyMan007> amenado: i might as well just google it up...
[21:19] <scraga2> can anyone help me troubleshoot my sound? ubuntu picks up my soundcard and has correct drives, nothing's muted so I don't get why I don't have any sound.
[21:19] <respawn> Squawk thanks you
[21:19] <fliegenderfrosch> mrkus: das paket "libcurl3-openssl-dev" ist nicht installiert, das zu installierende Paket hängt aber davon ab
[21:19] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> lets just make sure i follow you, this is a laptop or desktop?
[21:19] <nicolah> is http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ down ?
[21:19] <danbhfive> CorruptTerrorist: well, the only suggestion that I can think of is to reorder the resolutions in your xorg.conf file.   Make sure that a low resolution is first
[21:19] <noelferreira> does anyone knows how to get rt61 wireless driver working without loose the connection all the time?
[21:19] <ArmyMan007> amenado: desktop
[21:19] <danand> claudio76 - did you use the gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst command ??
[21:19] <CorruptTerrorist> danbhfive, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665018&page=4
[21:19] <danand> claudio76 - and then enter your password?
[21:19] <daef> hi there...
[21:19] <mehrab> amenado: my home directory is now in filesystem partition : /home/mehrab
[21:19] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> and without the ubuntu, it is running a windows? and it has access to the internet?
[21:20] <claudio76> danand: yes
[21:20] <danbhfive> noelferreira: try changing the channel that the wireless hub operates on
[21:20] <daef> everybody: hi!
[21:20] <amenado> mehrab this is the new one? or is this the old one?
[21:20] <mehrab> amenado:and now I want to mive to another partition
[21:20] <danand> claudio76 - what is the error you are getting?
[21:20] <earthling> _0z_: do you plug in the device after the system reboots or is it on the system?
[21:20] <mehrab> amenado: the old one
[21:20] <ArmyMan007> amenado: yes... my connection is wireless. i'm not the computer having the router pluged in, but my internet is working just fine on my windows
[21:20] <amenado> mehrab what is the name of the new one? /partitionname?
[21:20] <bartzitz> anyone using openbox? can't get parcellite global keybinding to work.
[21:20] <_Oz_> earthling: it's an internal HD\
[21:20] <ArmyMan007> amenado: just for you to know, i havn't set up anything in ubuntu
[21:20] <scraga2> daef: this is a tech support chat, if you've got a question just ask it, there is a chat somewhere, don't know it's name off the top of my head though
[21:21] <fliegenderfrosch> mrkus: btw: the german support channel is #ubuntu-de
[21:21] <claudio76> danand: no errors....the orange bar under ubuntu logo goes down to zero....and then it stops there
[21:21] <l815> is there a fast way to get the gtk dev to program with?
[21:21] <daef> scraga2: okay
[21:21] <daef> i used debian for about 3 years... now i want to join the ubuntu-community... should i wait for the LTS (08.sth.) or should i start off with 7.10?
[21:21] <danbhfive> !sudo | _leon_  try looking at these first
[21:21] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> just an fyi, several wireless chips have issues in ubuntu, the infamous one is bcm43xx...so if your laptop had that chip, you may come across this issues
[21:21] <mehrab> amenado: /media/disk
[21:21] <ubotu> _leon_  try looking at these first: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[21:21] <earthling> _0z_: is it /dev/sda5
[21:22] <danand> claudio76 - it wont work yet - you've got to get it to reboot first - are you on another machine as well ie on irc on a different machine?
[21:22] <claudio76> ah...and i'm restarting the pc....the words "Starting up..." after grub are still a bit too slow....they stay on the monitor a bit too much
[21:22] <ArmyMan007> amenado: may i just remind you that we are speaking of a desktop, not a laptop...
[21:22] <iKap> where could i find the broadcomm drivers i need?! im going to be installing ndiswrapper, but cant seem to find the drivers i need.. anyone know? i have a broadcom 4318.. i need the windows drivers so i can use ndiswrapper.
[21:22] <amenado> mehrab is that the new home directory you want the mehrab user to use? or would it be  /media/disk/mehrab?
[21:22] <_Oz_> earthling: I'm not sure how to answer that
[21:22] <crashed> Hey guys, I've been trying so hard to get my tv tuner card to work in kubuntu but I can't figure it out.
[21:22] <crashed> Anyone here capable of helping>
[21:22] <daef> i mean..: will there be a lot of new stuff in the first release 2008??
[21:22] <earthling> _0z_: k
[21:22] <claudio76> danand: yes...i'm on another machine....wait i try to switch it off again
[21:22] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> oh same thing, desktop have issues too withwireless chip bmc43xx..
[21:22] <Squawk> respawn, ok this "should" work. If not, change rootnoverify to root. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d149523ba .
[21:22] <_Oz_> earthling: there are two physical HDs in the computer
[21:23] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> see the posting from ikap..
[21:23] <Squawk> respawn, I included your linux one too (not sure if thats the correct one, I didnt check)
[21:23] <earthling> _0z_: k
[21:23] <_Oz_> earthling: one of the two is a 300gb drive which is split into two partitions
[21:23] <ArmyMan007> amenado: ok. let's just say the Ubuntu hasn't been able to detect it (altough it said it did), is that possible?
[21:23] <mehrab> amenado: yes this is
[21:23] <_Oz_> the 151gb partition is the one I keep my m3s on and it is called "151 GB" as a drive name in Ubuntu
[21:23] <respawn> ok Squawk i will try
[21:23] <earthling> _0z_: you will notice that /dev/sda5 has no options following it , while other have. right?
[21:23] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> yes its possible,
[21:23] <no_maam> hi
[21:23] <ArmyMan007> amenado: could you please repost the message from ikap?
[21:24] <_Oz_> right
[21:24] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> can you verify what wireless chip that desktop is using?
[21:24] <_Oz_> yeah, and it's formatted NTFS
[21:24] <_Oz_> earthling: so I think /dev/sda5 is the 151gb drive
[21:24] <Squawk> respawn, im away now for a while, il be back in a bit, good luck
[21:24] <amenado> ArmyMan007->   <iKap> where could i find the broadcomm drivers i need?! im going to be installing ndiswrapper, but cant seem to find the drivers i need.. anyone know? i have a broadcom 4318.. i need the windows drivers so i can use ndiswrapper.
[21:24] <_leon_> can somebody help me, i cant login on root by sudo su command or sudo -i
[21:24] <iKap> ArmyMan007,  where could i find the broadcomm drivers i need?! im going to be installing ndiswrapper, but cant seem to find the drivers i need.. anyone know? i have a broadcom 4318.. i need the windows drivers so i can use ndiswrapper
[21:24] <_leon_> :S
[21:24] <ArmyMan007> amenado: how would you like me to check?
[21:24] <no_maam> how can I launch this tool which comes up when the "running in low graphics mode" error message appears?
[21:24] <claudio76> danand: ok...i tried to restart it again and to switch it off again....but i get the same problem
[21:24] <Yaddaddad> I did a dist-upgrade on my laptop, but I find the lid event sounds to be annoying. How do I turn OFF the lid sounds ??
[21:24] <no_maam> I don't know the name of the tool which is used to configure the x-server
[21:25] <daef>  where will be the main differences between 7.10 and 8.04?? (except the long term support ;)
[21:25] <respawn> Squawk i remove this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57745/
[21:25] <earthling> _0z_: yes.. change the options there. use this link to understand the fstab http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[21:25] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> if you were booted in windows, umm i guess in control panel, and network something, i kind of forget how things are in windows..i dont have a windows in my area.
[21:25] <_leon_> can somebody help me, i cant login on root by sudo su command or sudo -i
[21:25] <ArmyMan007> amenado: let me get back to you on that. just a sec..
[21:25] <scraga2> daef: there's #ubuntu+1 that's about the latest release, your proberly gonna get better answers to that there
[21:25] <daef> _leon_: sudo passwd
[21:25] <daef> scraga2: ty
[21:25] <amenado> mehrab yes this is what?
 _leon_: sudo passwd
[21:25] <earthling> _0z_: also try this and pastebin "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:25] <_leon_> i cant
[21:25] <_Oz_> earthling: reading now
[21:25] <danand> claudio76 - :( .... ok. do you get the same problem if you issue the command    sudo shutdown -h now   from the terminal
[21:25] <bartwe> just installed ubuntu server
[21:25] <_leon_> i try it...
[21:26] <bartwe> but it keeps crashing after the first reboot
[21:26] <claudio76> danand: let me try...wait
[21:26] <ArmyMan007> amenado: Network Card :	D-Link AirPlus DWL-520+ Wireless PCI Adapter
[21:26] <mehrab> amenado: /media/disk   I want this to be my new home directory (the whole partition)
[21:26] <jester7> bartwe:  define "crashing"
[21:26] <sacredg> whats up everyone
[21:26] <ArmyMan007> amenado: helpfull?
[21:26] <_Oz_> earthling: http://pastebin.com/d4d28d583
[21:26] <mehrab> amenado : I think this can help me http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[21:26] <_leon_> deaf: are you see the screan ?
[21:27] <daef> _leon_: try "sudo passwd" or "sudo bash" and then passwd
[21:27] <bartwe> jester7: BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address f89ffffc
[21:27] <amenado> mehrab basically what i want you to do is.. in /etc/passwd  edit it for the user mehrab, point the /home/mehrab to  /media/disk
[21:27] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> yes..
[21:27] <daef> _leon_: i see the screen
[21:27] <bartwe> jester7: allways the same address
[21:27] <sacredg> can anyone tell me how to get itunes on ubuntu?
[21:27] <respawn> Squawk i remove this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57745/ or not ? ^^
[21:27] <amenado> mehrab then reboot
[21:27] <_leon_> i set the root password in recovery on start
[21:27] <fliegenderfrosch> sacredg: you have to use wine, but what do you need it for?
[21:27] <_leon_> i set the root password in recovery on start
[21:27] <daef> sacredg: doesnt aptitude find it?
[21:27] <ArmyMan007> amenado: ok. then how is it possible that the boot from the USB could not find the card automaticly and connect to it?
[21:28] <_leon_> but when i enter in system i cant login
[21:28] <earthling> _0z_: dont change the fstab file yet.
[21:28] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> hang on, let me see if your wireless chip drivers are readily available on the liveCd
[21:28] <sacredg> just want to hook up my ipod and update with mp3's
[21:28] <_leon_> is there any system recovery on ubuntu :S
[21:28] <daef> _leon_: just mod your passwd file to set the root pwd to blank with knoppix ;)
[21:28] <clic1> QUESTION: How do I change the 'Terminal' profile, to change the size of the terminal window, forever.
[21:28] <earthling> _0z_: i made a mistake. sorry. :(
[21:28] <ArmyMan007> amenado: sure thing... and btw, thanks a bucnh! :D
[21:28] <ArmyMan007> *bunch
[21:28] <fliegenderfrosch> sacredg: you could also use gtkpod, banshee and afaik amarok
[21:28] <_Oz_> earthling: still reading that file -- very illuminating, thanks.
[21:28] <kackvogel> hallo
[21:28] <Yaddaddad> How do I turn OFF the open/close lid sounds ??
[21:28] <sacredg> where do i get that
[21:29] <sacredg> ?
[21:29] <daef> _leon_: what happens if you try "sudo passwd" instead of "sudo su > passwd" ??
[21:29] <_leon_> deaf : password is good i am sure :S
[21:29] <danbhfive> amenado: are you trying to help the guy move his /home directory?
[21:29] <mehrab> amenado: lets see what happens
[21:29] <sacredg> im new to ubuntu
[21:29] <_leon_> change the password
[21:29] <iKap> u think i can find the broadcomm drivers here your wireless chip drivers are readily available on the liveCd
[21:29] <fliegenderfrosch> sacredg: have a look at "applications->add/remove"
[21:29] <jester7> bartwe:  sorry man, that's a little out of my range.  have you run memtest86 to make sure your memory is OK?
[21:29] <earthling> _0z_: also google "ubuntu fstab examples"
[21:29] <mehrab> amenado; thank you for patience
[21:29] <bartwe> jester7: i'll try that again
[21:29] <_leon_> deaf: change password do root is that right?
[21:29] <iKap> can braodcomm drivers bef ound here: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?os=WW1&osl=EN&catid=-1&impid=-1&servicetag=&SystemID=INSPIRON+2200&hidos=WW1&hidlang=en ?
[21:29] <iKap> found*
[21:29] <daef> _leon_: try "sudo su root"
[21:30] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> i did a quick check, and the wifi drivers for DWL-520+ is not readily available, so liveCD will not be able to assist you
[21:30] <sacredg> cool i know that much. I'll try it out.
[21:30] <_leon_> deaf : one more questino
[21:30] <daef> _leon_:  the su-synopsis is sth. like su [user]
[21:30] <claudio76> danand: sudo shutdown -h doesn't work
[21:30] <fliegenderfrosch> sacredg: also have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/
[21:30] <_leon_> do you know what this command mean: usermod -G netdev user
[21:30] <ArmyMan007> amenado: oh... that's a shame...
[21:30] <amenado> danbhfive-> yes, assisting a gentleman to move his new /home
[21:30] <kackvogel> wie komm ich in die deutsche hilfe
[21:30] <daef> _leon_: http://linux.die.net/man/8/usermod
[21:30] <fliegenderfrosch> kackvogel: mit "/join #ubuntu-de"
[21:30] <crashed> Guys, I'm trying to setup my PCI LifeFiew SAA7130 TV tuner and it doesn't appear to work at all.
[21:30] <ArmyMan007> amenado: yet still: is it possible for me to use the Ubuntu LiveCD from the USB and surf the internet with a diffrent card?
[21:31] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> well some of these really el cheapo cards never thought of serving linux users
[21:31] <danand> claudio76 - ok what is the make and model of your machine again??
[21:31] <ArmyMan007> amenado: yet still: is it possible for me to use the Ubuntu LiveCD from the USB and surf the internet with a diffrent card?
[21:31] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> yes its very possible
[21:31] <bunts> daef: shutdown -h now
[21:31] <earthling> _0z_: what is the type of partition you used for 151 GB
[21:31] <bartwe> jester7: hmz, after changing the bios video settings it seems to get a bit further
[21:31] <daef> _leon_: i don't know if you are familiar with the "man" command...
[21:31] <kackvogel> danke
[21:31] <_leon_> deaf : is there any connection with command usermod -G netdev user , and my login on root ?
[21:31] <daef> bunts: i'm workin' on a windows-machine right now... it should be "shutdown -s -f -t 0"
[21:31] <ArmyMan007> amenado: is it possible to recieve a link of some kind that has a description of all the working cards?
[21:31] <claudio76> danand: dell inspiron 531 ...with an ati HD 2400 Pro
[21:32] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> again..using usb pen drive to boot, i am not 100% sure you can just copy things over and boot...i have not tried it..it may work for you, or may...
[21:32] <respawn_> Squawk i reboot brb i come back
[21:32] <Yaddaddad> How do I remove annoying beeps on lid-events?
[21:32] <amenado> !compatibility
[21:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compatibility - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:32] <ArmyMan007> yet, let me repet the question
[21:32] <danand> claudio76 - do you know how to use pastebin?
[21:32] <ArmyMan007> amenado: is it possible to recieve a link of some kind that has a description of all the working cards?
[21:32] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> i dont know off hand
[21:32] <bunts> daef: on windows machine - hammer it now :)
[21:32] <madsporkmurderer> I am having problems installing codecs on my new 64bit machine- have tried the add/remove thingie but it is telling tme that it wont work on  64bit :(
[21:32] <_Oz_> earthling: NTFS
[21:33] <amenado> !hcl
[21:33] <ftr> m having problems with wireless on ubuntu 7.10
[21:33] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:33] <ArmyMan007> amenado: well, that's just fine... I thank you very much for you time... see you around! :D
[21:33] <claudio76> danand: i should connect from the other pc to use it
[21:33] <amenado> !hcl  | ArmyMan007
[21:33] <ubotu> ArmyMan007: please see above
[21:33] <ftr> *I'm
[21:33] <_leon_> deaf : is there any connection with command usermod -G netdev user , and my login on root ?
[21:33] <claudio76> danand: the pc with problems is not connected at the moment
[21:33] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> see that  from ubuto? !hcl
[21:33] <ArmyMan007> amenado: say what?
[21:33] <claudio76> danand: but tell me what you need to know
[21:33] <amenado> !hcl  | ArmyMan007
[21:33] <ubotu> ArmyMan007: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:33] <earthling> _0z_: then /dev/hdc2 is your drive of concern and not the earlier one..
[21:33] <crow> in the command 'g++ filename.cpp -o filename'  what is the function of the '-o'?
[21:33] <danand> claudio76 - what i would like to see is the output of the dmesg command.
[21:33] <daef> bunts: on my companie's notebook windows is a must have - and 80gigs - windows does not really leave enough space for a usable linux ;)
[21:33] <Cew27> hey all does anyone know why ubuntu is running unstable at the moment, i keep getting window freames stuck on the desktop when i quit apps
[21:33] <claudio76> wait
[21:34] <crow> when compiling a c++ source code
[21:34] <danbhfive> crow: Output filename
[21:34] <ftr> my wireless network uses a wpa-psk password, but i cant seem to select that option when connecting
[21:34] <ArmyMan007> amenado: thanks! l8er
[21:34] <ArmyMan007> :D
[21:34] <ftr> well, to be precise that option isnt there
[21:34] <amenado> laters
[21:34]  * ArmyMan007 slaps amenado around a bit with a large trout
[21:34] <ArmyMan007> :P
[21:34] <claudio76> danand: it's too long to be copied....what should i look for in it?
[21:34] <_Oz_> earthling: OK
[21:35] <amenado> mehrab are you still around?
[21:35] <danand> claudio76 - on the machine you've got problems with type    dmesg > dmesg.txt   if you could use pastebin to give me that file that would be good
[21:35] <bunts> daef: I see, then ther`s no other solution to use linux :)
[21:35] <danand> !pastebin | claudio76
[21:35] <ubotu> claudio76: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:36] <claudio76> danand: wait... i switch this pc off...and i'll reconnect from the other one....give me some minutes please.....wait for me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:36] <l815> is there a command to install gtk developer files through terminal?
[21:36] <earthling> _0z_:Its entry is not there in fstab,  and as it is NTFS it may give problems if you add its entry in fstab..
[21:36] <danand> claudio76 - no worries - not going anywhere!
[21:36] <daef> bunts: i could walk into the next room and use my pc - which wouldn't let me watch tv besides... or i could ssh onto it or my router via putty... but sometimes text isn't the one and only truth ;)
[21:36] <claudio76> danand: ok...see you later
[21:36] <Odd-rationale> Why can I not access #ubuntu-eo?
[21:37] <_Oz_> earthling: OK.  Any recommendations?
[21:37] <bunts> daef: yeah, agree with ya :)
[21:37] <daef> bunts: ;)
[21:37] <earthling> _0z_:and it is a bit surprising for my limited knowledge, couse i think the auto mount can take place only from fstab on reboot
[21:38] <ftr> anyone got any ideas as to my wireless issue?
[21:38] <_Oz_> earthling: I see..
[21:38] <_Oz_> Well, no big deal, I guess.
[21:38] <earthling> _0z_:i am googling at the movement, if i find someting i will tell
[21:38] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[21:38] <_Oz_> I can just log in to the darn thing once per session
[21:38] <Cpudan80> I'm trying to setup my displays so that the external display can be a higher resolution than the laptop's internal LCD display
[21:39] <Cpudan80> I've got it basically setup - except that when I boot up, the resolution that gnome takes up is equal to the resolution of the laptop panel (1024x768) vs the resolution of the external screen (1280x1024)
[21:39] <sacredg> wow that was easy
[21:39] <Cpudan80> Basically, it shoves the gnome panels/desktop in the upper left corner - and doesn't stretch across the remaining screen space
[21:39] <Cpudan80> Anyone have any solutions?
[21:40] <ftr> ...surely not everyone here on ubuntu is using something other than wpa-psk?
[21:40] <tamer> yes
[21:40] <bergquist> Cpudan80: what graphicscard?
[21:40] <Cpudan80> ati
[21:40] <Cpudan80> radeon driver
[21:40] <daef> Cpudan80: if that would be a debian channel i would tell ya to study your xorg.conf... but there must be something graphical in *buntu... ;)
[21:40] <LoLLo> guys how can i zoom the cube ? i've tried to activate zoom desktop and press win+3 but it doesn't work !!
[21:40] <bergquist> Cpudan80: you should try the fglrxdriver...
[21:41] <_Oz_> earthling: don't go to any more trouble over this
[21:41] <_Oz_> earthling: it's a minor problem
[21:41] <Cpudan80> bergquist: Doesnt support my old card
[21:41] <Cpudan80> 7500
[21:41] <bergquist> oh
[21:41] <tamer> how can you connect 3 DSL connections to one work group?
[21:41] <daef> LoLLo: maybe your win-key isn't mapped correct...
[21:41] <Cpudan80> daef: I can edit the file by hand, if you know what I need to do
[21:41] <bergquist> Cpudan80: which ubuntu version are you running?
[21:41] <Cpudan80> Gutsy
[21:41] <LoLLo> daef for the other stuffs super key works ... uhm ...
[21:41] <daef> Cpudan80: post your config in any pastebin...
[21:41] <Cpudan80> k
[21:42] <danbhfive> _Oz_: whats the problem?
[21:42] <bergquist> Cpudan80: you should have a option under System -> Administration -> Screens or something like that...
[21:42] <julle> i want to put XAMPP in Sessions, can i simply write the command "sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start"  ?
[21:42] <Cew27> hey all does anyone know why ubuntu is running unstable at the moment, i keep getting window freames stuck on the desktop when i quit apps
[21:42] <_Oz_> danbhfive: thanks, it's just a problem I have with accessing an NTFS HD in ubuntu
[21:42] <daef> LoLLo: that was the prob on my cube... but a bit playin' with xmodmap did the trick... try to remap the shortcut to a key which is known to be 'problemless' *g*
[21:42] <danbhfive> _Oz_: rather, are you having trouble with permissions and automounting via fstab?
[21:43] <_Oz_> danbhfive: basically whenever I launch amarok I can't play any mp3s because the mp3s are on an NTFS drive that require I log in to it using my admin password
[21:43] <_Oz_> once I do that, amarok can access the files
[21:43] <nfusco> Can anyone tell me if the latest release (ubuntu) will support this card: Linksys Wireless G WMP54GS, Will I be able to use the restricted drivers?
[21:43] <ftr> ok, well ill ask later when someone who knows a solution to my problem is free
[21:43] <danbhfive> _Oz_: are you using the umask attribute?
[21:43] <Cpudan80> daef: http://www.pastebin.ca/922583
[21:43] <_Oz_> danbhfive: don't know?
[21:43] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: what was the problem?
[21:43] <Cpudan80> bergquist: That thing *always* messes up for me
[21:43] <zukethenuke> Can someone help me with dansguardian?
[21:43]  * nicolah loves new brainstorm website
[21:43] <danbhfive> _Oz_: can you pastebin your fstab file?  I might be able to help
[21:43] <_Oz_> sure
[21:44] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: trying to connect to my wireless network which uses a wpa-psk phrase. but i dont get the wpa-psk option
[21:44] <bergquist> daef: you seem like you know what you are talking about... i am having trouble with openvpn... i get SIOCDELRT: No such process when it tries to initialize the tapinterface..
[21:44] <LoLLo> daef one moment, for a correct zoom of the desktop i must activate zoom desktop; rotate cube and cube right ?
[21:44] <Cpudan80> bergquist: right now it lists both panels as 640x480 -- but they definitely are not
[21:44] <bergquist> ...
[21:44] <daef> LoLLo: w8
[21:44] <cdm10> LoLLo: you don't need the cube ones... and try enhanced zoom desktop
[21:44] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Are you using Gutsy?
[21:44] <zukethenuke> Dansguardian has been blocking all web sites lately
[21:44] <daef> bergquist: i have no clue about VPN's ;)
[21:44] <bergquist> Cpudan80: that's more than crapped up...
[21:44] <cdm10> LoLLo: it's much better than plain zoom desktop
[21:44] <earthling> _0z_: i would have added this to my fstab "/dev/hdc2 /media/151 GB  ntfs defaults,umask=007 0 0" . i think this would work.. but i havent ever tried ntfs so not taking chances..
[21:44] <bergquist> daef: okidoki ;)
[21:44] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: uhhh...no idea. i only just installed ubuntu there now
[21:45] <_Oz_> danbhfive: here's the output of fdisk -l
[21:45] <_Oz_> http://pastebin.com/d4d28d583
[21:45] <earthling> _0z_: no probs here...
[21:45] <Cpudan80> bergquist: I dont think it can figure out what I've setup
[21:45] <ArthurArchnix> ftr, in a terminal type uname -r and paste it here.
[21:45] <daef> Cpudan80: try to restrict 1024 for the external display... (remove "1024x768" from line 118)
[21:45] <_Oz_> danbhfive: here's the fstab output: http://pastebin.com/daedbd24
[21:45] <claudio75> danand: i'm back....
[21:46] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: 2.6.22-14-generic
[21:46] <Cpudan80> daef: hrm... ok
[21:46] <claudio75> danand: may i write to you in private?
[21:46] <danand> claudio75 - hello
[21:46] <bergquist> just a quick question... how many in here are running hardy right now?
[21:46] <danand> claudio75 - ok
[21:46] <claudio75> danand: :)
[21:46] <ArthurArchnix> ftr So Gutsy then. And does network manager automatically start when you log in, and detect some networks for you to connect to?
[21:46] <Vov4ik> Hello, where installing php5-cli interpretator? [sry for my bad eng]
[21:46] <Cpudan80> daef: brb - restart x
[21:46] <ftr> well its running in the top bar thing, and the netwrk i want is in the list
[21:47] <danbhfive> _Oz_: your ntfs drive is not listed at all in fstab
[21:47] <_Oz_> danbhfive: that is what earthling said.
[21:47] <_Oz_> Problem?
[21:47] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: That's good. What happens when you click on it and ask to connect. Does a box pop up asking for a password?
[21:47] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: but the problem is, the only 2 security options it gives me is wpa personal and leap
[21:47] <danbhfive> _Oz_: well, it won't get mounted at bootup
[21:47] <_Oz_> I see
[21:47] <_Oz_> so when I try to log in to it for the first time, that mounts it
[21:47] <daef> LoLLo: dunno... maybe you shall see if it is answered in http://www.beryl-project.org/faq.php
[21:47] <claudio75> danand: can you read me in pvt?
[21:48] <_Oz_> the drive is in /media so ubuntu probably thinks it's removeable
[21:48] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Well, that may just be what it says. Have you tried typing your password in anyway? I use WPA-2 and don't have problems.
[21:48] <Cpudan80> daef: Same result
[21:48] <danand> claudio75 - errr no!
[21:48] <bunts> daef: probably u know where I can configure my laptop touchpad sensitivity?
[21:48] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: yeah, and sits for ages trying to connect before giving up
[21:48] <daef> Cpudan80: shame...
[21:48] <danand> claudio75 - have you registered with freenode yet?
[21:48] <claudio75> danand: uhmmm ok...anyway...dmesg's output is not completely visible
[21:49] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: The first time you connect it does take a while. But when it gives up it usually just asks you for the password again, because it assumes you typed it in wrong. Is that what happens?
[21:49] <danbhfive> _Oz_: yeah, if you mount it like that, you could try adding umask=007 as one of the options somewhere.  Under the right click menu, but I'm not sure.
[21:49] <claudio75> danand: yes but sometimes it works and sometimes not...anyway
[21:49] <claudio75> danand: tell me what i have to paste in pastebin
[21:49] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: sometimes. other times it just goes back to the unconnected icon
[21:49] <danand> claudio75 - errr... ok ... what happens when you type dmesg
[21:49]  * _Oz_ gulps
[21:49] <_Oz_> danbhfive: I'm not permitted to modify permissions, settings etc for that drive in the right-click menu
[21:50] <Cpudan80> daef: Kinda weird --- the desktop looks ok (ie. it takes up the full 1280x1024) --- just the gnome panels and such are stuck in the other mode
[21:50] <claudio75> danand: the output is too long to be read
[21:50] <daef> bunts: i guess it depends on which touchpad you use... maybe in the mouse-settings?? or in your driverconfig?
[21:50] <brad01> I want to do a Unetbootin install of ubuntu what information do I need?
[21:50] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Hang on a tic...
[21:50] <daef> Cpudan80: try the default X-background - there you see if your resolution is okay...
[21:50] <lastelement1> hey all, i was wondering if it was possible to merge log files created by pidgin
[21:50] <earthling> How do we open a file browser in nautilus using terminal
[21:50] <CorruptTerrorist> wow... finally got the drivers working... compiz fusion is amazing
[21:50] <claudio75> !pastebin
[21:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:50] <danbhfive> _Oz_: I think your best bet is to loopup a guide on setting it on in the fstab file
[21:50] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: pretty cool, eh?
[21:51] <danbhfive> _Oz_: *lookup
[21:51] <cc77> should I install 64 bit ubuntu or 32bit ubuntu?
[21:51] <CorruptTerrorist> _Oz_, i like the wobbly windows
[21:51] <daef> cc77: what processor?
[21:51] <_Oz_> I'll do that, danbhfive
[21:51] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: me too
[21:51] <brad01> 32 bit unless you have especial needs
[21:51] <daef> bunts: why that questions?
[21:51] <fliegenderfrosch> earthling: you mean something like "nautilus /path/to/directory"?
[21:51] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Hmm... it could be a problem with your wireless card. What kind is it?
[21:51] <CorruptTerrorist> i like the cartoon blind effect when you double-click a window titlebar
[21:51] <ftr> asus usb
[21:51] <ftr> ive used it successfully in other distros, like suse
[21:52] <bunts> daef: in mouse-settings there`s no option like that, probably yes, in driver conf. do u know where s that? no just wonder where I can configure out, `cause is too sensitive
[21:52] <claudio75> danand: here is it....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57753/  ....there's more before this...but i can't read it
[21:52] <daef> fliegenderfrosch: du hast nicht zufällig etwas mit der berufsschule in linz zu tun??
[21:52] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: that one's ok, but I don't have much use for it.
[21:52] <danand> claudio75 - ok  type    dmesg > dmesg.txt    That will put all that output in the file dmesg.txt. Then type    gedit dmesg.txt    select all and copy     then goto the pastebin web site and paste that stuff . then come back and tell me the link
[21:52] <earthling> fliegenderfrosch: will that open /path/to/directory
[21:52] <fliegenderfrosch> daef: nein
[21:52] <claudio75> ok
[21:52] <claudio75> wait
[21:52] <cc77> Is ubuntu nice with vista?
[21:52] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: try Super+Tab to switch windows
[21:52] <danand> claudio75 - you go too fast :}
[21:52] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: also try Super-E
[21:52] <lastelement1> hey all is it possible to merge the log files of pidgin into just one document as opposed to one each for each instance of a conversation?
[21:52] <CorruptTerrorist> _Oz_, quite useful when you can use a quad core to it's full ability
[21:52] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: asus wl-167g to be precise
[21:52] <brad01> I wanr ro install Ubuntu 7.10 with Unetbootin what information do I need?
[21:52] <fliegenderfrosch> earthling: yes, see "man nautilus"
[21:52] <danand> claudio75 - :)
[21:52] <daef> fliegenderfrosch: wenn in dieser der proxy eine seite blockt bekommt man nämlich den fliegenden frosch zurück ;)
[21:53] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: what does have a quad core have to do with making a window shade on the windows more useful?  save RAM?
[21:53] <fliegenderfrosch> daef: interessant, habe ich nicht gewusst
[21:53] <_Oz_> cc77: I don't see any need to use vista...  I use Ubuntu and vbox to run Windows XP
[21:53] <daef> bunts: just asking because your first problem (vpn) seems like you are a quite advanced user - and the touchpad-problem seems - compared - trivial ;)
[21:53] <CorruptTerrorist> _Oz_, when you're using all of that processor power in multiple programs, nice to make them disappear niceley
[21:54] <earthling> fliegenderfrosch: k. thanks. so "gksudo nautilus /path/to/directory" will give me rights to  change directory permissions?
[21:54] <claudio75> danand: ok..... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57754/
[21:54] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: very good, glad it's useful for you
[21:54] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: have you gotten the cube working?
[21:54] <daef> bunts: is it a synaptics-pad??
[21:54] <danand> claudio75 - ok give us a bit ...
[21:54] <claudio75> danand: ok
[21:55] <bunts> daef: advanced in ways :) just now wanted to sort it out. thx
[21:55] <bunts> too lasy to google for
[21:55] <daef> bunts: when it is a synaptics-pad then this one could help: http://tinyurl.com/yt7qxt
[21:55] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: We could narrow the problem down some.
[21:55] <daef> bunts: i know that prob ;)
[21:55] <bunts> daef: thx
[21:55] <macogw> bunts: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad
[21:55] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: sure, tell me what you need
[21:55] <macogw> bunts: gentoo's wiki is great :)
[21:55] <CorruptTerrorist> i don't get how to open a cube though
[21:56] <bunts> macogw: thx
[21:56] <ArthurArchnix> Go to >system >admin >network   click on your wireless, then click on properties
[21:56] <ArthurArchnix> ftr ^
[21:56] <macogw> bunts: gsynaptics/qsynaptics dont do sensitivity
[21:56] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: you have to enable it first
[21:56] <ftr> okie doke, gimme a minute this lappy is slow as all hell lol
[21:56] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: also, go to general options and make sure you have 4 sides to the cube, otherwise it's just a flat 2-sided pane
[21:57] <CorruptTerrorist> _Oz_,  i have
[21:57] <macogw> bunts: yet.  i guess i could submit a patch for that...
[21:57] <daef> macogw: then - who does??
[21:57] <bunts> macogw: gonna search for. thx
[21:57] <macogw> daef: you have to do it in xorg.conf or use synclient in the commad line
[21:57] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: then click your scroll wheel button down anywhere on the background of the desktop and drag left or right
[21:57] <pecisk_> wow, poor ubuntu brainstorm servers, took a beating from slashdot crowd
[21:57] <daef> macogw: sounds familiar... i think i already used synclient a long time ago...
[21:57] <CorruptTerrorist> aww thats cool
[21:58] <earthling> _0z_: which option in the configure window set the cube on?
[21:58] <daef> macogw: with a crappy hp notebook...
[21:58] <macogw> daef: the GUIs do scrolling, tapping, on/off...and i added acceleration, min speed, and max speed to gsynaptics in october or something, but it hasnt been packaged
[21:58] <brad01> What do I need to do a Unetbootin install?
[21:58] <macogw> daef: its in the SVN
[21:58] <_Oz_> earthling: System->Preferences->Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[21:58] <daef> macogw: okay
[21:58] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: theres 2 wireless devices on this laptop. one's the built in dell one wihch never works on any os and oens the asus usb. i cant tell which is which in that menu
[21:59] <ftr> one is wlan0 one is eth0
[21:59] <earthling> _0z_: after that what option?
[21:59] <CorruptTerrorist> what does paint fire on the screen do?
[21:59] <_Oz_> earthling: for the cube? just scroll down until you see "3D cube"
[21:59] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Trial and error won't hurt.
[21:59] <_Oz_> corrupt: paints fire on the screen.
[21:59] <ftr> ok, ill go with wlan0 for now
[21:59] <_Oz_> CorruptTerrorist: try shift-f9 by the way
[21:59] <daef> _Oz_: lol
[21:59] <earthling> _0z_: k, thks
[21:59] <macogw> hahah
[21:59] <ftr> enable roaming mode is ticked
[21:59] <CorruptTerrorist> omg cool
[21:59] <macogw> ftr: eth0 is probably your wired connection
[21:59] <TrustNoOne> is ubuntu or debian better overall?
[22:00] <daef> CorruptTerrorist: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Compiz-Fusion-Firepaint.png/750px-Compiz-Fusion-Firepaint.png
[22:00] <CorruptTerrorist> i'm so leaving that on
[22:00] <madsporkmurderer> I am having codec problems with my new 64bit box- apparently the xine extra plugins wont install on 64bit systems
[22:00] <macogw> TrustNoOne: is it a server or a desktop?
[22:00] <ftr> eth1 is my wired, according to this
[22:00] <LoLLo> uhm ... if i put an img on the top of the cube it's not a problem for my desktop's icons right ?
[22:00] <macogw> ftr: oh you didnt say that was there
[22:00] <CorruptTerrorist> daef, when does that appear?
[22:00] <daef> CorruptTerrorist: thats the firepaint
[22:00] <neel> anyone can help one minute for an english sentence?
[22:00] <TrustNoOne> macogw, desktop, connected to shared drives for media playback
[22:00] <ftr> my bad lol
[22:00] <macogw> LoLLo: no itll show when you drag the cube around with the mouse
[22:00] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Direct your comments by typing a name. This is a busy channel and they get lost easy.
[22:00] <CorruptTerrorist> daef, how do you use it?
[22:00] <daef> CorruptTerrorist: you can paint fire with your mouse
[22:00] <TrustNoOne> macogw, sorry, its a laptop
[22:01] <LoLLo> macogw so i can put an image with np ?
[22:01] <CorruptTerrorist> daef, how?
[22:01] <macogw> TrustNoOne: ubuntu's probably easier to get going for that. debian is great on servers because its so stable, but it doesnt do so well with very new laptop hardware
[22:01] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: sorry
[22:01] <muunleit> why not?
[22:01] <macogw> LoLLo: yep
[22:01] <daef> CorruptTerrorist: press the shortcut and paint (press mousebutton while shortcut)
[22:01] <[T]an1> ubuntu detects my cdrom but none of the other applications installed can find it... k3b cannot find it, virtualbox cannot find it. in k3b i tired pointing the device to /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom and /media/cdrw. k3b says that it cannot find those devices.
[22:01] <_Oz_> the paint fire feature is almost definitely the most unnecessary feature
[22:01] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Whichever one you chose first, when you're in properties, uncheck 'enable roaming mode'.
[22:01] <Solmaze> If my java installation went apeshit, and I want to "re-do" it. But it seems that the virtual machine is already partially installed - how would I go about clearing out the faulty installation and re-installing?
[22:01] <TrustNoOne> macogw, this laptop is 2 years old
[22:01] <CorruptTerrorist> which is what button?
[22:01] <daef> CorruptTerrorist: i think it was something like ctrl+alt+shift...
[22:01] <[T]an1> i would appreciate some assistance on this. just came from fedora and am really frustrated by this.
[22:01] <macogw> TrustNoOne: mine's from july 2006
[22:01] <macogw> TrustNoOne: it doesnt work with debian stable
[22:01] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: ok, i unticked "enable roaming mode" and typed in the essid, selected WPS2 and typed the password. ok to use dhcp to configure the settings?
[22:01] <ftr> *wpa2
[22:01] <macogw> ftr: what are you trying to do?
[22:02] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: That's probably what you're router is setup for.
[22:02] <macogw> ftr: you should be able to stay in roaming mode and just use network manager...it handles wpa just fine
[22:02] <ftr> macogw: trying to connect to a wpa-psk secured wireless network.
[22:02] <macogw> ftr: ive done that with network manager no problem
[22:02] <iKap> how can i upgrade my kernal?!
[22:02] <ftr> macogw: it wouldnt though, thats why im here and ArthurArchnix is helping me
[22:02] <brad01> What do I need for a UNetbootin system?
[22:02] <macogw> ftr: weeeeird
[22:02] <macogw> iKap: to what? a vanilla kernel?
[22:03] <macogw> iKap: or are you afraid from that vmsplice thing?  an update was released a few weeks ago for it
[22:03] <daef> CorruptTerrorist: grep -A 2 < /etc/gconf/schemas/compiz.schemas
[22:03] <iKap> macogw, 2.6.24 kernel
[22:04] <TrustNoOne> macogw, i burned the first debian iso image, and on the back of the disc there is this small orange splotch, at first i thought it was dirt on the disc but its brand new, and its not dirt, its part of the data layer on the disc that was just burned... is that corrupt? i never seen it before
[22:04] <iKap> macogw, im trying to get wifi working
[22:04] <daef> CorruptTerrorist: works?
[22:04] <claudio75> danand: just to know.....are you still there?
[22:04] <CorruptTerrorist> daef, one secd
[22:04] <daef> kk
[22:04] <ArthurArchnix> macogw: I was using gsynaptics with synclient, but then I thought, isn't this really only useful for changing parameters on the fly? Wouldn't it be better to put your touchpad config into xorg and not run synclient and gsynaptic, if you don't need to change touchpad parameters on the fly. Or am I wrong about what gsynaptics is doing?
[22:04] <sarah> Hello. I'm trying to run firefox through an SSH tunnel by using the -D option to specify a local port for tunnelling. However, on the remote side I keep getting the following error: channel 6: open failed: connect failed: Connection timed out. The channel number changes. Does anyone know a reason for this?
[22:05] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: setting both wireless devices that way didnt help
[22:05] <Solmaze> If my java installation went apeshit, and I want to "re-do" it. But it seems that the virtual machine is already partially installed - how would I go about clearing out the faulty installation and re-installing?
[22:05] <ArthurArchnix> macogw: So now I just edit my xorg.. badly, because the synaptics documentation that comes with ubuntu isn't that helpful.
[22:05] <rpj8> Hey guys. Bit of a bash question. With ls, is there any way to list the size of the folder given all of the files in that folder? right now for ever directory it says '64k'.
[22:05] <TrustNoOne> ArthurArchnix, what are you trying to edit with your xorg
[22:05] <CorruptTerrorist> /etc/gconf/schemas/compiz.schemas: No such file or directory
[22:05] <daef> sarah: where do you want firefox to run?? local or on the remote machine?? maybe you should try the -x option
[22:06] <ArthurArchnix> ftr... ok, leave it like that for now, we need to go into the terminal and try and configure this thing manually.
[22:06] <sarah> daef: I want it to run locally, but tunnelling data through the SSH connection.
[22:06] <levander> Are there any decent video editing applications in the repositories?
[22:06] <magnetron> hi! how do i give an application higher priority or larger buffers to the sound card? the ETQW demo is crashing with some sound buffer underruns errors. i'm running it in OSS mode. thanks.
[22:06] <RoAkSoAx> rpj8: there is another command to obtain the size of files, you wont be able to obtain it with ls, i believe tha command is 'du'
[22:06] <daef> rpj8: du -sh
[22:06] <sarah> daef: x forwarding is not an option as the remote side does not and will not have X.
[22:06] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: ok
[22:06] <daef> sarah: okay
[22:07] <daef> sarah: so you have to have a proxy running there - dont you??
[22:07] <ArthurArchnix> TrustNoOne: Nothing in particular. I used to use gsynaptics to control my touchpad via synclient, but now I'm just trying to pass the parameters myself through xorg.conf. I'm particularly confused about "coreevent" or some such option, but it's not a priority.
[22:07] <Squawk> rpj8, du -h --max-depth 1
[22:07] <rpj8> daef and RoAkSoAx and Squawk : thanks guys
[22:07] <daef> Squawk: but thats for all folders in the current folder - isn't it??
[22:07] <sarah> daef: Not as far as I understand. The proxy is running on my local machine. ssh -D [portnum] does that.
[22:08] <arthurararuna> hello, guys, I'm having problems to install Ubuntu 7.10 on my computer.
[22:08] <arthurararuna> Every time the "partition manager" tries to find the devices (HDs) of my computer it fails without even telling me anything and stops at 46%.
[22:08] <arthurararuna> Is there anyone who could help me?
[22:08] <_damir> can somebody explain me mode -G and -g?
[22:08] <nand> brainstorm.ubuntu.com has been slashdotted. *slashdoooot*
[22:08] <daef> sarah: a tunnel and a proxy are not the same - or don't i get the point?
[22:08] <macogw> TrustNoOne: you got a bad cd
[22:08] <sarah> daef: ssh -D starts a proxy AND a tunnel so to speak. :-)
[22:08] <Squawk> daef, you can specify the dir on command line (didnt think to include it in my answer)
[22:08] <claudio75> danand: uhmmm.....are you there? just tell me if you're still alive :p
[22:08] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Start here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188&highlight=configure+wireless+manually   come back in when you hit something you don't understand or get an error. What we want to do is get this thing working first, then worry about why it doesn't work with network-manager.
[22:09] <daef> Squawk: okay okay
[22:09] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: ok, will do
[22:09] <macogw> ArthurArchnix: Gentoo's Wiki and I think Arch's Wiki were the ones I consulted when patching gsynaptics.  There was something else I saw too...that might've been on Arch's wiki....that listed valid ranges for values
[22:09] <TrustNoOne> macogw, well im burning the second, then third disc, if they turn out fine, then ill reburn the first one
[22:09] <Smegzor> I use virtualbox a LOT and I often run it in seamless mode.  Is there a way to tell Ubuntu (in gnome) not to cover the bottom of the screen when I maximise windows?  I have the XP task bar down there and the Ubuntu taskbar up top.
[22:09] <bla> Hi.
[22:09] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: is there a way to disable certain devices like in windows device manager? if i can turn off the dell wireless one it will be much simpler
[22:09] <daef> sarah: sorry - my fault... should have opened the man page before speaking *g*
[22:09] <_damir> can somebody explain me mode -G and -g?
[22:10] <RoAkSoAx> _damir -G and -g in which application?
[22:10] <sarah> daef: no problem, I appreciate the effort! :D
[22:10] <ArthurArchnix> Yup. Just find out what driver it uses then add that to your blacklist in modprobe.d
[22:10] <_damir> i enter
[22:10] <macogw> Smegzor: can you put a blank panel at the bottom that hangs out behind the start menu so stuff cant maximize that big?
[22:10] <_damir> usermod -G netdev myuser
[22:10] <_damir> and cant login as root...
[22:10] <macogw> nand: i noticed that...
[22:10] <Smegzor> I'll try that
[22:10] <hobbzilla> I installed samba server on my ubuntu and when I reboot, samba does not appear to be loading properly.
[22:10] <bla> Anybody noticed a problem with ASUS laptops? Fan doesn't stop. It's very noisy and slower than winxp installed in parallel. acpid is running. Trying to locate eventuall cause of this issue.
[22:10] <macogw> _damir: there is no loggin in as root in ubuntu
[22:11] <hobbzilla> I sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop & start and I get this:
[22:11] <daef> sarah: but i found something about it...
[22:11] <danand> claudio75 - still here :)
[22:11] <_damir> i cant do command
[22:11] <_damir> like sudo su
[22:11] <hobbzilla> start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 5173: No such process
[22:11] <RoAkSoAx> _damir: -G is for GROUPS and -g is for group
[22:11] <claudio75> danand: ok...any news?
[22:11] <macogw> _damir: root is locked.  use "sudo su -" or "sudo -i" if you want the environment to change too.  "sudo su" or "sudo -s" to keep your env
[22:11] <daef> sarah: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/
[22:11] <danand> claudio75 - just looking here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=d283d759844f1ff649791431cf51814d&t=701294
[22:11] <hobbzilla> subsequently, the start does work. But the stop fails due to the fact it doesn't appear to be running.
[22:11] <Smegzor> um.. how do I add a new panel?
[22:11] <ArthurArchnix> Once you find the driver name, say it's dellwireless, you'd add "blacklist dellwireless" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:11] <ArthurArchnix> ftr^
[22:11] <macogw> Smegzor: right click your other one and hit new panel
[22:11] <_damir> macogw : i cant
[22:12] <Smegzor> k
[22:12] <Shyde> _damir: I think when you use that command without the -a option all your groups get overwritten by the 2 you added there
[22:12] <macogw> _damir: what happens?
[22:12] <sarah> daef: Exactly that, I have it set up as so.
[22:12] <hobbzilla> I have checked `ls -la /etc/rc2.d/*samba*` gives:  S20samba
[22:12] <Shyde> _damir: so you are not in the admin group anymore which is required to run sudo
[22:12] <macogw> Shyde: oo thats nice and scary
[22:12] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: i ran lshw -C network and i can see what my wireless is on, wlan0, but it doesnt list the driver
[22:12] <RoAkSoAx> _damir: check this website: http://www.ss64.com/bash/usermod.html there will explain what are those options for
[22:12] <rene> hello
[22:12] <macogw> _damir: live cd on hand?
[22:12] <TrustNoOne> +
[22:12] <daef> sarah: then i have no clue... what was the exact message?? (too lazy to scroll up there... ;)
[22:12] <rene> i can upgrade feisty to hardy ?
[22:12] <_damir> Shyde : i also think that becouse my drivers not work now
[22:12] <macogw> rene: no
[22:12] <clic1> QUESTION: How do I change the 'Terminal' profile, to change the size of the terminal window, forever.
[22:12] <_damir> macog: its not live cd
[22:12] <macogw> rene: not without a reinstall.   you can upgrade feisty to gutsy
[22:13] <drarem> I want to do some 'bare-bones' opengl programming, which library(s) from synaptic should I look for to install
[22:13] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: What's the name of the device?
[22:13] <macogw> rene: then gutsy to hardy if you want to use the development stuff
[22:13] <sarah> daef: hannel 6: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed - and a few others
[22:13] <Shyde> _damir: you can boot into the recovery mode and correct the groups
[22:13] <sarah> daef: hannel being channel.
[22:13] <macogw> _damir: do you have a live cd on hand though?
[22:13] <rene> macogw, why i can't ?
[22:13] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: logical name?
[22:13] <_damir> Shyde : yes i can i set up connection in recovery
[22:13] <CorruptTerrorist> what's the best torrent app for ubuntu?
[22:13] <daef> sarah: and who throws that?
[22:13] <_damir> Shyde : do you know how to fix it
[22:13] <kostkon> rene, you have to upgrade first  to gutsy and then to hardy
[22:13] <danand> claudio75 - you there?
[22:13] <_damir> macogw : yes i have
[22:13] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Maybe this will give it: lspci | grep ireless
[22:14] <Onyx> I've got a second hard drive, and I'd like for anyone in the "users" group to be able to read and write to that drive without issue.  Is there an option I'm missing in my fstab configuration so far?  The options I've got so far are "user,auto,rw,sync"
[22:14] <daef> sarah: firefox when trying to connect - or sshd - or somebody else?
[22:14] <rene> kostkon, ussue in update-system in feisty ?
[22:14] <_damir> Shyde : do you know how to fix it
[22:14] <macogw> rene: no skipping releases.  configurations change between and get all botched up if you try to skip.  your configurations are kept from the old version of the programs and one version off has a better shot of making sense of them and making adjustments than skipping versions of software does
[22:14] <drarem> looks like I need libghc6-opegl-dev
[22:14] <sarah> daef: ssh, on the remote side, in my terminal.
[22:14] <Shyde> _damir: boot into recovery mode, where you will be root, and run "usermod -a -G admin,etc youraccount"
[22:14] <daef> okay...
[22:14] <sarah> Very weird stuff.
[22:14] <macogw> _damir: boot from the live cd and edit the /etc/group on your hard drive
[22:14] <arthurararuna> everybody is busy...
[22:14] <arthurararuna> so I'll leave
[22:14] <kostkon> rene, say it again?
[22:14] <Smegzor> hmm..  the blank panel hides the XP task bar if I give focus to a maximised linux app.
[22:15] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: that...didnt appear to do aything
[22:15] <macogw> _damir: or do what shyde said...i forgot about that
[22:15] <rene> macogw, hummm....upgrade gusty and before hardy okay /]
[22:15] <rene> ?
[22:15] <macogw> Smegzor: oh :-/
[22:15] <madman91> hey guys
[22:15] <macogw> Smegzor: oh oh i know
[22:15] <clic1> QUESTION: How do I change the 'Terminal' profile, to change the size of the terminal window, forever.
[22:15] <macogw> Smegzor: give it handles on the side for hiding
[22:15] <madman91> does anyone know how I can see total downloaded/uploaded in rtorrent?
[22:15] <danand> claudio75 - you there?
[22:15] <daef> sarah: http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.security.ssh/2005-01/0208.html
[22:15] <earthling> Onyx: "umask=000" ?
[22:15] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: Ok, well, maybe you could just tell me what it is again. Like, belkin 3424 wireless usb,,, or whatever.
[22:15] <_Oz_> danbhfive: terribly sorry, something came up, have to run
[22:15] <Smegzor> ok.  i suspect though that what I need is for virtualbox to handle this 'feature'.
[22:15] <sarah> daef: Checking that.
[22:15] <macogw> Smegzor: then hide it off to the side.  the windows will stay out of its way, i think.  there'll just be a little handle in the corner for bringing the panel back
[22:16] <Smegzor> i'll try it
[22:16] <claudio75> danand: wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wrote acpi=force ...maybe i had to write ACPI=force   ?!!??!
[22:16] <Onyx> earthling: Pass that as an option?
[22:16] <Shyde> _damir: you probably want to add more than only the admin group, check http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2007/07/02/restore-default-ubuntu-groups/
[22:16] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: asus wl-167g usb wlan
[22:16] <macogw> Smegzor: dang nevermind
[22:16] <macogw> Smegzor: the windows still move over that
[22:16] <Smegzor> didn't work :(
[22:16] <earthling> Onyx: yes
[22:16] <rene> macogw, non change sources. from "feisty" by "hardy" and update-manager -d ?
[22:16] <claudio75> danand: yes...i'm here...i was cheking that page
[22:16] <Smegzor> I'll post a feature request to the VirtualBox people
[22:17] <macogw> rene: update-manager -d changes teh sources for you.  but you cant skip versions when upgrading...at least not safely.  it might work.  it might hose your system.
[22:17] <Onyx> earthling: Refuses to mount with that option
[22:17] <claudio75> danand: maybe i had to write ACPI ...and not acpi  ?!?!?
[22:17] <earthling> Onyx: remove the earlier options and instead add. "Defaults,umask=000"
[22:17] <daef> sarah: maybe better: http://forums.vandyke.com/archive/index.php/t-1231.html
[22:17] <earthling> Onyx: what is the error?
[22:17] <rene> macogw, ok then, i wont upgrade for gusty and hardy :-)
[22:18] <rene> macogw, thx for support
[22:18] <rene> :D
[22:18] <macogw> rene: you can go from feisty to gutsy
[22:18] <daef> sarah: /etc/ssh/sshd_config - watch out for "AllowTcpForwarding no"
[22:18] <macogw> rene: and then go from there up
[22:18] <earthling> Onyx: it works for me, i have umask=007 never gave a problem
[22:18] <macogw> rene: but if youre not cool with things breaking at random, you probably shouldnt use hardy anyway
[22:18] <claudio75> danand: did you read what i wrote???
[22:18] <rene> last gusty to hardy ;-) ?
[22:18] <daef> sarah: that should do the trick ;)
[22:18] <danand> claudio75 - no - think we done that ok... can you run the command    lsmod | grep apm   for me on that machine and see if you get any output
[22:19] <cdm10> rene: hardy is very incomplete and broken. I wouldn't use it.
[22:19] <claudio75> danand: ok
[22:19] <rene> i kwon
[22:19] <rene> :D
[22:19] <Onyx> earthling: Is "umask" an NTFS thing?
[22:19] <sarah> daef: It's set to yes already. Very curious. =/
[22:19] <earthling> Onyx: No,
[22:19] <daef> sarah: restarted your sshd?
[22:19] <morenita> ola
[22:20] <earthling> Onyx: umask is user mask..
[22:20] <claudio75> danand:  the command lsmod | grep apm doesn't write anything....no output
[22:20] <rene> ola
[22:20] <daef> sarah: and hope that it comes up again ;-)
[22:20] <ArthurArchnix> ftr https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsAsus  Supposedly works in gutsy. Easiest solution would be if you switched from wpa-psk to wpa2 or something in router. Possible? Anyway, drive you need is RT2500, so you do "lsmod | grep rt2500" to confirm it's loaded. RT may need to be capitalized, I'm not sure. lsmod without the extra stuff will just show everything and you can scroll throu
[22:20] <sarah> daef: I did - was a scary moment. *grins*
[22:21] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: im sure i could change the security at some point, everyone else is busy on lotro atm so not now :P
[22:21] <ArthurArchnix> oops.. I ftr I misread that. That's not the driver.
[22:21] <danand> claudio75 - ok ...
[22:21] <daef> sarah: now i'm really running out of idea's and google-hit's... sorry ;)
[22:21] <utkan0s> sarah, what's the problem
[22:21] <gatito> ola alguien habla espanol
[22:21] <sarah> daef: It's okay, it's been confusing me as well. Thanks for trying!
[22:21] <ArthurArchnix> Yeah? ftr we may get it to work... but people don't seem to be having trouble with this card except when using psk
[22:21] <sarah> utkan0s: Well I get weird errors on my ssh proxy tunnel. channel 6: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed
[22:21] <daef> http://www.jimbojw.com/wiki/index.php?title=Channel_5:_Open_Failed:_Administratively_Prohibited
[22:21] <daef> sarah: http://www.jimbojw.com/wiki/index.php?title=Channel_5:_Open_Failed:_Administratively_Prohibited
[22:22] <daef> sarah: maybe ;)
[22:22] <gatito> sarah
[22:22] <earthling> Onyx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=685427&highlight=fmask , might help
[22:22] <gatito> sarah where u at girl
[22:22] <claudio75> danand: do you think that all is caused by my videocard?
[22:22] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: well, shit lol. ok well thanks for your help. seems the simplest option is to change security method. I've always been a fan of mac filtering myself...
[22:23] <sarah> daef: Uh. I guess there could be some plugin in my firefox that's trying to equest non-complete hostnames.
[22:23] <daef> sarah: try wget...
[22:23] <ArthurArchnix> ftr: You can still use WPA2... just not WPA-PSK
[22:23] <sarah> daef: Yep, one moment
[22:23] <l815> how do i use c++ to make a gui with glade code?
[22:24] <ArthurArchnix> ftr:  apparently... though I don't understsand why.
[22:24] <ftr> ArthurArchnix: ok, will look into it
[22:24] <ArthurArchnix> Sure... bookmark that link to manually configuration though.
[22:24] <ArthurArchnix> ftr ^ :)
[22:24] <daef> l815: you write a c# compiler and use c# to code your gui ;)
[22:24] <l815> daef T-T
[22:25] <sarah> daef: Uhm, do you know offhand how to specify for wget to use a proxy? man page is being unhelpful
[22:25] <ftr> one last thing.. i heard ubuntu has some spiffy visual effects, and obviously on this old inspiron 2200 im not going to see them, but if i installed it on my pc (3.0GHz p4 1gb ram ati x1600 pro) would they all be setup for me by default?
[22:25] <Slart> bad daef.. bad bad daef.. no cookie for you =)
[22:25] <daef> sarah... w8
[22:25] <danand> claudio75 - i dont think so ... apparently this is quite a problem ... alot of people have reported this
[22:25] <daef> Slart: uhm... ?????
[22:25] <claudio75> danand:  i know...
[22:25] <Slart> ftr: it would be one couple of mouse-clicks away.. if everything works out alright..
[22:25] <danand> claudio75 - its a bit of a wierd one - some solutions work for some people but not for others ....
[22:25] <ftr> Slart: ty
[22:25] <daef> sarah: did you try to set http_proxy env. variable?
[22:26] <Slart> daef: "l815: you write a c# compiler and use c# to code your gui"... shame on you.. =)
[22:26] <daef> Slart: let me joke around ;)
[22:26] <gatito> (U)sarah u broke my heart
[22:26] <daef> Slart: just had a good day ;)
[22:26] <l815> im so confused now >.<
[22:26] <claudio75> danand: eh....please help me....i believe in you :p
[22:26] <Slart> daef: hehe..
[22:26] <sarah> daef: Ah, that simple. :-)
[22:26] <gatito> claudio75 shut the hell up
[22:27] <danand> claudio75 - we know   acpi=force   doesn't work for us  ... we should remove that from your kernel boot paramaters first...
[22:27] <Slart> gatito: no reason to use that kind of language
[22:27] <daef> sarah: thats the default way... maybe wget also haves a proxy switch... but i'm sittin on a windows machine right now
[22:27] <daef> no MAN-ACCESS...
[22:27] <claudio75> danand: ok
[22:27] <gatito> aight man
[22:28] <sarah> daef: Seems to work with no error. I'm baffled.
[22:28] <claudio75> danand: ok...i deleted it from kernel line
[22:28] <daef> sarah: so try to create a new "clean" firefox profile without plugins
[22:28] <danand> claudio75 - type gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove just the    acpi=force    from the kernel line
[22:29] <danand> claudio75 - your fast !! :]
[22:29] <claudio75> danand: already done it
[22:29] <Slart> hmm.. the wget man-page is most unhelpful.. " For more information about the use of proxies with Wget, " and then nothing more..
[22:29] <claudio75> danand: :)
[22:29] <danand> claudio75  - :)
[22:29] <sarah> Slart: No kidding :->
[22:29] <macogw> sarah: you can put it in the /etc/wgettrc
[22:29] <danand> claudio75 - ok, quick and dirty method .... can you go back on irc on your other machine...?
[22:30] <daef> sarah: http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Profiles
[22:30] <macogw> sarah: or at least i assume you can on ubuntu. i did it in red hat like that
[22:30] <sarah> macogw: http_proxy=blabhblah?
[22:30] <Slart> here's some nice info http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/how-to-use-wget-through-proxy/
[22:30] <macogw> sarah: think so
[22:30] <claudio75> danand: no please....
[22:30] <claudio75> danand: let me try here
[22:30] <daef> Slart: you seem very mean ;)
[22:30] <macogw> sarah: yep.  the line's already in there, just commented out
[22:30] <sarah> macogw: That worked, thanks.
[22:30] <macogw> sarah: set the use_proxy to on too
[22:31] <hola> my webcam is not recognized by ubuntu
[22:31] <eighty> join android
[22:31] <sarah> macogw: Seems to do so by standard, I added it to ~/.wgetrc
[22:31] <danand> claudio75 - its just we need to reboot the ubuntu machine ... probably alot
[22:31] <Slart> daef: I am.. just now I played with a small puppy in the elevator.. or ..wait.. that's not evil.. let me think about that some more
[22:31] <sarah> Okay, it fails horribly now. No proxying at all
[22:31] <Slart> =)
[22:31] <claudio75> danand: eh...let's try
[22:31] <macogw> hola: model?
[22:31] <sarah> Not even an error on the remote side.
[22:32] <daef> Slart: it may be 50% evil as long as nobody sees it ;) schroeders puppy...
[22:32] <hola> macogw: my webcam is not recognized by ubuntu
[22:32] <hola> macogw:0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[22:32] <Ademan> is anyone familiar with the badRAM kernel module? is it included by default in ubuntu or anything?
[22:32] <macogw> hola: not the lsusb output...the actual model
[22:32] <daef> Ademan: i always try to get around bad ram ;)
[22:32] <qle> helo, can you people tell me is there any photoshop like app that will do work on linux, i allready tried Gimp and i dont like it much....anything else?
[22:32] <Slart> daef: and you don't know until someone catches you..  =)
[22:32] <hola> macogw:sorry...what do you mena with actual model
[22:32] <macogw> hola: Logitech ####....Creative ####? something like that
[22:32] <bla> qle, gimp is fine. There's gimpshop - changed interface. And you can run photoshop with wine.
[22:32] <Slart> qle: there's nothing quite like photoshop on linux.. gimp is as close as it gets I think
[22:32] <daef> qle: maybe something in ubuntustudio
[22:33] <hola> macogw:it should be a INTUIX
[22:33] <Slart> qle: I think you can run photoshop using wine.
[22:33] <claudio75> danand: tell me what to do
[22:33] <daef> qle: or windows
[22:33] <macogw> hola: do you know what model of Intuix it is?  It probably says it on the back of the camera or something
[22:33] <daef> ;)
[22:33] <daef> so.. i g2g
[22:33] <mmcgrath> Is the source code for http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ available anywhere?
[22:33] <Slart> qle: go here.. appdb.winehq.org search for photoshop and see what it says
[22:33] <qle> Slart: in wine can i run cs2 or even maybe cs3
[22:34]  * daef leaves for some water and soap...
[22:34] <hola> macogw:w300 if i remember well
[22:34] <Slart> mmcgrath: what is it? the page is taking forever to load...
[22:34] <qle> i will thnx
[22:34] <mmcgrath> Slart: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1357
[22:35] <danand> claudio75 - when your ready try halting your machine with the poweroff command. try typing    sudo poweroff -f    in a terminal and see it that helps
[22:35] <lunaphyte> hi
[22:35] <mzhang> mount -t iso9660 -o loop cd.iso /mnt/disc/ gives "mount: Could not find any loop device. Maybe this kernel does not know about the loop device? (If so, recompile or `modprobe loop'.)" Any ideas??
[22:35] <claudio75> danand: ok
[22:36] <ArthurArchnix> Slart: mmcgrath it's on digg's front page. It probably won't load until tomorrow.
[22:36] <ArthurArchnix> :)
[22:36] <mmcgrath> ArthurArchnix: do you know where I can get the source code?
[22:36] <macogw> hola: are you in germany?
[22:36] <Solmaze> If my java installation went apeshit, and I want to "re-do" it. But it seems that the virtual machine is already partially installed - how would I go about clearing out the faulty installation and re-installing?
[22:36] <macogw> hola: or do you speak german?
[22:36] <macogw> hola: this webcam seems to be listed only on german websites
[22:36] <hola> macogw: im sorry....im italina
[22:36] <hola> macogw: im sorry....im italian
[22:36] <Slart> mmcgrath: I would expect it to be open source.. perhaps more info will be available later
[22:36] <ArthurArchnix> mmcgrath: Well, the release info I saw said it's from ubuntu's q-a team. I'd see if they have a channel... maybe ubuntu-dev?
[22:36] <Slart> !it
[22:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:37] <Slart> ah.. nevermind
[22:37] <mmcgrath> Slart: launchpad isn't OSS so I never assume anything from canonical :)
[22:37] <macogw> hola: oh ok... umm google translate on the sites i found says it's not supported
[22:37] <mmcgrath> ArthurArchnix: thanks!
[22:37] <hola> Slart: it was for me?
[22:37] <Slart> mmcgrath: it isn't?.. my world is crashing.. why oh why.
[22:37] <macogw> Slart: i just asked him if he could read the language of the sites i found...he's fine with english, it seems
[22:37] <hola> macogw: so do yuo think taht ther is no ways to do it works?
[22:38] <Slart> hola: I didn't think enough.. just saw the bit about being italian.. the fingers did the rest themselves =)
[22:39] <macogw> hola: dont think so.  i think this is in italian www.qnait.com/computer/754-computer-5.html
[22:39] <macogw> hola: oh nvm that site's useless
[22:39] <mehmet> how do i install fonts?
[22:39] <Slart> !fonts
[22:39] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[22:39] <gatito> hola must be one hot sexy latina
[22:39] <hola> macogw: ok thanks
[22:40] <claudio76> danand: system froze with that command
[22:40] <lunaphyte> i'm running edgy, with apache 2.0.55-4ubuntu4.2, and looking for the autoindex module, but i only see it in apache-common, not apache2-common.  where can i find it?
[22:41] <macogw> hola: yeah it wont work with linux. sorry :-/
[22:42] <danand> claudio76 - uh oh ... probably no good trying that then :}
[22:42] <robdeman> hi all -- anybody her ethat can answer a basic question on openldap?
[22:42] <claudio76> danand: system froze with that command....are you there?
[22:42] <claudio76> ok
[22:42] <sbox> does anyone know the command to show video driver being user?
[22:42] <sbox> used
[22:42] <eifzon> Anyone can help me with my vsftpd problem?
[22:42] <eifzon> Ok, I have uncommented the three options, chroot_local_user=YES, chroot_list_enable=YES and chroot_list_file=/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list, in the vsftp.chroot_list I added a user that has access to all the directories. If I use the other user that shall be "restricted" to be in any other folder then /var/ftp it dont work, I still can make directories/remove etc with the other user.
[22:42] <macogw> sbox: lsmod will list all the drivers in use
[22:42] <Narlzac85> how would I set hamachi to start on startup? It requres "sudo tuncfg" and "hamachi start"
[22:43] <Slart> sbox: you can look in the xorg logfile.. /var/log/xorg.log or something similar
[22:43] <macogw> sbox: you can write something like: lsmod | grep "radeon\|fglrx\|nv\|intel\|i810"
[22:43] <swirv> Hello all... How do I get the deskbar applet working?  It is not in the list of items I can add to my panel.
[22:43] <flowOver> xp in vbox just started doing this on the 3rd day.  it gets stuck and freezes right away
[22:43] <flowOver> anything i can do about it?
[22:44] <swirv> flowOver make sure you have the latest version ov VirtualBox.
[22:44] <macogw> sbox: to pull it from xorg if you're using a version of ubuntu that lists the driver in xorg (hardy does not since it uses xrandr...gutsy probably doesnt sometimes either):  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i Driver
[22:44] <danand> claudio76 - can you see if you have the directory /proc/acpi on your machine - just type ls /proc/acpi - should give you a list of things like button ac_adapter etc
[22:45] <claudio76> danand: ok wait
[22:45] <Nihilist_Nerd> May I ask general GNU/Linux questions in here, even if it's not specifically  for Ubuntu?
[22:45] <eifzon> Anyone can answer my questioN?
[22:45] <Slart> Nihilist_Nerd: I'd say yet
[22:45] <claudio76> danand: yes...a list appeared
[22:46] <Slart> Nihilist_Nerd: oops.. I meant yes
[22:46] <flowOver> swirv just the ubuntu repos.  it seems more and more that trusting the repository is useless
[22:46] <claudio76> !paste
[22:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:46] <flowOver> why is it even there if it's full of buggy software?
[22:46] <kenro> Anyone here know a Mac prog called Widget or Gadget shop, or such?
[22:46] <claudio76> danand: this is what i obtained   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57760/
[22:46] <Slart> eifzon: try repeating the question every 5 minutes or so... if noone answers it's usually because people don't know the answer.. be patient
[22:47] <eifzon> Slart: oké
[22:47] <kenro> Coz I would like similar for Linux...
[22:47] <danand> claudio76 - ok wait one
[22:47] <brilliantnut> Hi, I'm looking for routed on 7.10, can't seem to find it using Synaptic... could anyone point me to the right package?j
[22:47] <claudio76> danand: ok
[22:47] <Slart> kenro: perhaps if you described what the program did.. or gave us a link where we can read about it we might be able to help
[22:48] <danand> claudio76 - how old is your system?
[22:48] <claudio76> danand: eh? i have gutsy....on a dell inspiron 531...it has been bought 2 weeks ago
[22:49] <Slart> !info iproute | brilliantnut: is this the one?
[22:49] <ubotu> brilliantnut: is this the one?: iproute (source: iproute): Professional tools to control the networking in Linux kernels. In component main, is important. Version 20070313-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 330 kB, installed size 868 kB
[22:49] <judgen> is perl a part of GNU or is it standalone?
[22:49] <Sonja> is there a good GUI app to synch an audio file with a silent video to produce a combined final video?
[22:49] <Slart> judgen: standalone
[22:50] <swirv> flowOver I dunno.  I have xp and three linux VMs running without any crashes at all with VirtualBox... right from the repos.
[22:50] <ArthurArchnix> I'm pretty excited about finding out how to disable touchpad when mouse is attached. And started up again when removed. Thank you udev.
[22:50] <patrock> Anyone else aving keyboard prolems after the last update?
[22:50] <Slart> Sonja: avidemux perhaps?
[22:50] <eifzon> Ok, I have uncommented the three options, chroot_local_user=YES, chroot_list_enable=YES and chroot_list_file=/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list, in the vsftp.chroot_list I added a user that has access to all the directories. If I use the other user that shall be "restricted" to be in any other folder then /var/ftp it dont work, I still can make directories/remove etc with the other user.
[22:51] <danand> claudio76 - ok :) _NEW_ then.
[22:51] <claudio76> danand: yes...
[22:51] <kenro> Slart,  Right. Anyway, the Mac prog is more a game. How about a cad prog with some sort of full motion engine? I have a design for a combo fishing rod, walking staff and bow I'd like to simulate.
[22:52] <claudio76> danand: what should i do? we just tried that acpi=force ...any other idea???
[22:52] <judgen> i want an recomendation for an app that i can use for TV recording from a tv card.
[22:52] <RoC_MasterMind> I upgraded 7.04 to 7.10 but now I don't have "VPN Connections" under network manager.  eth0 has a static IP (and must stay that way), and so I had to add eth1 (2nd nic) under 7.04 for VPN connections to have a nic to use I guess...but now in the same setup with eth1 enabled and DHCP it doesn't show up at all under network manager.
[22:52] <RoC_MasterMind> I have network-manager-pptp install, how can I make VPN connections show up?
[22:52] <claudio76> danand: it's late here and i've not slept all the night.....are you near to any idea?
[22:52] <Slart> kenro: 3d cad software is rare.. free ones even more so.. you might want to look at blender
[22:52] <flowOver> swirv - and everytime i boot after it get's stuck (thats what vbox says happened.  the os is stuck) then it runs at a snails pace on reboot
[22:52] <brilliantnut> Slart: I have iproute installed, but apparently no routed is contained in there.. :(
[22:53] <danand> claudio76 - i am looking at the posts on the net... they suggest turning acpi off and using apm instead. acpi and apm are two methods for handling power management. acpi is newer than apm... I'm reluctant to try it .... your machine _should_ use acpi
[22:53] <Slart> brilliantnut: what do you want to do? setup routing?
[22:53] <brilliantnut> Slart: yes, specifically, failover routing.
[22:53] <swirv> flowOver is this a fresh install of XP or has it been copied from a real install or VMWare vm?
[22:53] <claudio76> danand: ok
[22:53] <claudio76> danand: so?
[22:53] <flowOver> fresh
[22:53] <ArthurArchnix> danand: claudio76 what problem are you two working on?
[22:53] <Slart> brilliantnut: there is always the "route" command
[22:53] <flowOver> sp2 updated
[22:53] <patrock> anyway to see what was updated in reverse chronological order?
[22:54] <kenro> Slart, Blender does only 2d anim. primarily for game design.
[22:54] <flowOver> kenro: bwah?
[22:54] <flowOver> blender is 3d
[22:54] <Slart> kenro: blender is 3d.. but I agree about the game design thingy..
[22:54] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: my problem is that i'm unable to switch my pc off...
[22:55] <cafuego> it doesn't want to die, how cute
[22:55] <Slart> kenro: but as I said.. that's the closest thing I know of
[22:55] <swirv> flowOver try mounting the XP cd and boot your xp vm with the CD, then try to do a repair from the CD.  It sounds like XP is broken.
[22:55] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: usplash appears....the orange bar gows down to zero and it stops there
[22:55] <danand> claudio76 - shutdown hanging on dell inspiron 531 - see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=d283d759844f1ff649791431cf51814d&t=701294 ... we've tried acpi=force with no luck
[22:55] <brilliantnut> Slart: over 3 dsl connections... I want the intranet to be always connected over any of the available dsl connections.. I have a linux box as the router... so I want dynamic routing, so that it should be able to figure out and update the routing tables automatically if any of the DSLs go down...
[22:55] <danand> ArthurArchnix - ^^
[22:55] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76: Sounds like gdm isn't passing the right halt command.
[22:55] <danand> cafuego - :)
[22:56] <swirv> BTW I fixed my deskbar issue by unstalling it and reinstalling the package.
[22:56] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76:  danand I just saw an option for that today... where did I see that... goes off to look around
[22:56] <Slart> brilliantnut: sounds like a must-have application.. there has to be a replacement for routed if it isn't there..
[22:56] <jolenzy> hey! I have just one small question, so if someone can answer me, it wold be nice
[22:56] <flowOver> swirv: i gave it 512mb ram that should be plenty?
[22:56] <syntaxerror55> !ask | jolenzy
[22:56] <ubotu> jolenzy: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:56] <jolenzy> can I install superkaramba on ubuntu? will it work?
[22:56] <brilliantnut> Slart: that's what I'm looking for... pimd came close, but the comment says its retired...
[22:56] <Slart> brilliantnut: this is for debian.. but you might get some hints.. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/377
[22:56] <brilliantnut> !info pimd
[22:56] <ubotu> pimd (source: pimd): multicast routing daemon (PIMv2). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-alpha29.17-8 (gutsy), package size 78 kB, installed size 264 kB
[22:56] <syntaxerror55> jolenzy: Yes, it will
[22:56] <danand> ArthurArchnix - I thought that - we tried halting with sudo shutdown -h ... that failed too .... tried powerdown -f too ... that froze the system
[22:57] <syntaxerror55> !info superkaramba | jolenzy
[22:57] <ubotu> jolenzy: superkaramba (source: kdeutils): a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[22:57] <ArthurArchnix> danand: oh ... that's crazy. :)
[22:57] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: ah...the line "starting up..." that appears after grub stays on my screen for about 30 seconds when i switch on my pc...then usplash appears and gdm starts......but the greatest problem is that i'm unable to switch it off
[22:57] <Slart> brilliantnut: it seems shorewall has some support for these things too
[22:57] <Slart> !info shorewall
[22:57] <kenro> Blender is a 3d object graphi design suite and 2d game design suite. You could string static 3d obj into a movie, but it is built for 2d anim.
[22:57] <ubotu> shorewall (source: shorewall): Shoreline Firewall (Shorewall), a high-level tool for configuring Netfilter. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.4-1 (gutsy), package size 250 kB, installed size 1380 kB
[22:58] <jolenzy> ok, tnx. have a nice evening
[22:58] <syntaxerror55> jolenzy: you can install it in synaptic or by typing 'sudo apt-get install superkaramba'
[22:58] <ArthurArchnix> danand: switching to runlevel 0?
[22:58] <danand> ArthurArchnix - good idea - lets give that a go
[22:58] <jolenzy> ok, understood :)
[22:58] <ArthurArchnix> danand: Something like, sudo init 0? I'm not exactly sure. Never used it. :)
[22:58] <flowOver> kenro: you don't know how to use blender than.  i've seen plenty of 3d blender games
[22:58] <Nihilist_Nerd> lart: Cheers
[22:59] <kenro> flowOver:  do I have that part right? ;)
[22:59] <Nihilist_Nerd> Slart: Cheers
[22:59] <danand> ArthurArchnix - sudo runlevel 0 i think, wait one
[22:59] <Slart> Nihilist_Nerd: you're welcome
[22:59] <kenro> flowOver:  Guess not :(
[22:59] <cafuego> ArthurArchnix: that wiuld do exactly the same as 'shutdown -h now'; switch to runlevel 0 and run the shutdown scripts.
[22:59] <Slart> Nihilist_Nerd: but I haven't seen the question yet =)
[22:59] <flowOver> blender is the open source match to maya or 3dsmax
[22:59] <ArthurArchnix> This is what's in my gdm command: "/sbin/shutdown -h now "Shut Down via gdm.""
[23:00] <danand> ArthurArchnix - sudo runlevel --set=0 should work i think
[23:00] <Sonja> thanks sl
[23:00] <danand> claudio76 - you following this
[23:00] <Sonja> Slart
[23:00] <claudio76> danand: tell me what to do
[23:00] <claudio76> danand: you're the brain...i'm the hand
[23:00] <Slart> kenro: regardless of wether blender is 3d or 2d.. it still isn't CAD... far from it.. perhaps you can run some other CAD software in wine..
[23:00] <danand> claudio76 - are you still using your ubuntu box for irc?
[23:01] <claudio76> danand: yes...but let's try
[23:01] <claudio76> danand: so have i got to type sudo runlevel --set=0?
[23:01] <kenro> flowOver:  Know where I can find a copy of The Blender Book? Or maybe something more modern?
[23:01] <danand> claudio76 - yes :) fast as always :)
[23:02] <danand> claudio76  - that should shutdown your pc
[23:02] <claudio76> danand: ok...the output is      2 0
[23:02] <claudio76> danand: now?
[23:02] <ArthurArchnix> hey danand, seen or tried this yet? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071127030236AAIvhCU
[23:02] <ArthurArchnix> looks promising.
[23:03] <claudio76> hey....i have gutsy not edgy
[23:03] <danand> claudio76 - type sudo runlevel 0
[23:03] <danand> claudio76  - that should shutdown your pc
[23:03] <flowOver> kenro: blender.org is loaded.  you don't really need a cad for what you want to do
[23:03] <danand> claudio76 - :)
[23:03] <kenro> Slart:  Is qCAD any good?
[23:03] <claudio76> danand: ok...let me try
[23:03] <Slart> kenro: I think it's 2d only..
[23:03] <claudio76> sudo is /usr/bin/sudo
[23:03] <claudio76> runlevel is /sbin/runlevel
[23:03] <claudio76> bash: type: 0: non trovato
[23:03] <brilliantnut> Slart: the debian page you linked me to seems promising.. thanks.. I'll be back if I need more help...
[23:04] <claudio76> non trovato= not found (in italian)
[23:04] <yao_ziyuan> is there some system backup program that can restore my system when in a future point my system runs into problems?
[23:04] <Slart> brilliantnut: you're welcome.. hope you find something useful
[23:04] <kenro> Slart:  True... and no animation, either...
[23:04] <Slart> !backup | yao_ziyuan
[23:04] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[23:04] <claudio76> danand: sudo is /usr/bin/sudo
[23:04] <claudio76> runlevel is /sbin/runlevel
[23:04] <claudio76> bash: type: 0: non trovato
[23:04] <Slart> kenro: I think most people using cad for 3d work can afford to buy one of the big packages
[23:04] <nosto> howdy all
[23:04] <_damir> hi
[23:05] <_damir> anybody know about usermods ?
[23:05] <nosto> i know you all just loooove when people coming in and firing questions.
[23:05] <claudio76> danand: non trovato=not found (in italian)
[23:05] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76: danand that's messed up. Claudio, if you type sudo fdisk -l what happens?
[23:05] <_damir> about usermod -G ?
[23:05] <nosto> Could anyone assist me with an audio issue I am having?
[23:05] <syntaxerror55> !anybody | _damir
[23:05] <ubotu> _damir: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:05] <Slart> nosto: we live for it ;)
[23:05] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76: sudo fdisk -l
[23:05] <danand> claudio76 - ok - try    telinit 0
[23:05] <claudio76> !paste
[23:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:05] <Starnestommy> _damir: for changing groups?
[23:06] <GodWing> I got problem with my audio device too
[23:06] <_damir> anybody know how to add all groups in one user
[23:06] <nosto> Slart, I am trying to get my microphone to pick up sound so that i can use ventrilo via wine
[23:06] <combat> claudio76: what exactly are you trying to do?
[23:06] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: here is it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57763/
[23:06] <_damir> how to add all groups in myuser
[23:06] <Slart> nosto: it works in native applications?
[23:06] <nosto> but when i try to use sound recorder (in ubuntu 7.10) it gives me an error
[23:06] <ArthurArchnix> combat: Turn hhis computer off.
[23:06] <GodWing> when I plug-in with head set, the speakers sound too
[23:06] <nosto> No, it doesn't
[23:06] <GodWing> :D
[23:06] <combat> why not shutdown now?
[23:06] <claudio76> combat: i'm not able to switch my gutsy off
[23:06] <GodWing> how it works?
[23:06] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76: danand You're strange output made me think you had a problem with sudo. You don't.
[23:06] <nosto> "Your audio capture settings are invalid.  Please correct them in Multimedia settings"
[23:07] <GodWing> please help me in this case
[23:07] <Slart> nosto: I think the sound recorder in gnome is one of the worst pieces of.... white fluff ... phew.. got to breathe a bit here...
[23:07] <kenro> thanks, Slart and flowchart...I mean flowOver
[23:07] <Slart> nosto: try something else... let me have a look
[23:07] <flowOver> sometimes backspace is usesful
[23:07] <danand> combat - we're having problems with shutdown hanging on a dell inspiron 531 .... seeing if we can shutdown the system in a different way to shutdown -h now
[23:07] <nosto> uh, ok
[23:07] <syntaxerror55> sudo halt?
[23:08] <cjones> what is the shell command to chang permisions on a file ?
[23:08] <combat> cjones: chmod
[23:08] <flowOver> chmod
[23:08] <GodWing> cjones : chmod
[23:08] <combat> :D
[23:08] <cjones> thaniks
[23:08] <yao_ziyuan> !backup | yao_ziyuan
[23:08] <boolka> when is the next ubuntu release?
[23:08] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76:   gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[23:08] <combat> april
[23:08] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: but did you read this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57763/
[23:08] <syntaxerror55> dennda: why not just sudo halt?
[23:08] <danand> claudio76 - have you tried that telinit command yet?
[23:08] <_damir> how to add all groups in one user ?
[23:09] <claudio76> danand: no let me try
[23:09] <boolka> combat is there a list of upgrades/ new feautres? or screenshots of betas?
[23:09] <nosto> Slart, did you run away?
[23:09] <Slart> nosto: nope.. still here... trying to find something easy for recording
[23:09] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: the output is fuse        lp
[23:09] <Darkmystere> err, small problem how can i get my top panel to go away..not permanant for like when i rotate cube it stays..if i play fullscreen game it floats over game.. if i use xwinwrapper..it stays  if i play a movie fullscreen it stays...if i set it to auto-hide half of it stays...how can i fix this..?
[23:09] <ArthurArchnix> danand: I've opened the floodgates. I'll run my ideas through you so claudio76 doesn't get overwhelmed.
[23:09] <danand> ArthurArchnix - :)
[23:10] <claudio76> danand: so i try to type telinit ?? just that?
[23:10] <danand> claudio76 - wait one
[23:10] <claudio76> danand: ok
[23:10] <danand> ArthurArchnix - what are you thinking?
[23:10] <_damir> how to add all groups in one user ? -G mode
[23:10] <claudio76> danand: i still have not tried telinit
[23:10] <ArthurArchnix> danand: claudio76 You've opened /etc/modules, you see fuse in this document, add this above it:  apm power_off=1
[23:10] <nosto> another issue i'm having slart is that wine only allows 1 stream of audio.. and i need 2.. i need world of warcraft audio and ventrilo
[23:11] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: ok done....now?
[23:11] <combat> boolka: its a long term release, so there are not many new features, maybe you find some infos on http://ubuntuland.nireblog.com/post/2008/01/05/new-features-for-hardy-heron
[23:11] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76: danand wait.. that's a bad idea. We should see if it works first before messing with /etc/modules
[23:11] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76: close the file and don't save changes.
[23:11] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: i added apm power_off=1
[23:11] <Slart> nosto: I'm not sure what wine can and can't do when it comes to sound..
[23:12] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: i saved it with apm power_off=1
[23:12] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76:  I was wrong to suggest that. It's too soon. Get rid of that line, close the file, don't change it, don't save.
[23:12]  * ArthurArchnix slaps forehead.
[23:12] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: ok i open it again and delete that line
[23:12] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76: s'ok. just yeah... that.
[23:12] <Slart> nosto: ok, go to System, Preferences, Sound
[23:13] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: ok...now it's as before
[23:13] <danand> ArthurArchnix - i'm a little wary of that ... in order for that to work the apm system must be used instead of acpi ... which means passing kernel args acpi=off apm=on to the kernel at boot - acpi is used for _alot_ of stuff on modern systems eg control of cooling, cpu throtting etc
[23:13] <nand> mmcgrath: the source code of Brainstorm is open source
[23:13] <nosto> slart u can keep spewin instructions i'll keep up
[23:13] <nosto> i'm here
[23:13] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: wihtout apm power_off=1
[23:13] <Slart> nosto: and look at the thingy called Sound Capture.. what is it set to?
[23:13] <danand> ArthurArchnix - i'm worried if we do that we might cause more probs
[23:13] <nosto> ALC883 analog
[23:13] <nosto> when i test it, i can hear myself talk
[23:14] <nosto> but it also begins to give feedback as well
[23:14] <danand> ArthurArchnix - see bottom of page at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=298595&highlight=shutdown
[23:14] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76:   sudo modprobe apm
[23:14] <Slart> nosto: try setting it to Alsa instead
[23:14] <ArthurArchnix> claudio76: then try and shutdown
[23:14] <claudio76> FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device
[23:14] <nosto> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[23:14] <danand> ArthurArchnix - that won't work
[23:14] <Slart> nosto: yup.. I get that too.. can you record now? using sound recorder
[23:14] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device
[23:15] <nosto> i can open it, but nothing comes out recorded
[23:15] <nosto> just dead air
[23:15] <scjp_> how should i install vnviewer on ubuntu ?
[23:15] <ArthurArchnix> danand:  Is he dual booting? Bios updates?
[23:15] <Slart> ok.. open the volume manager
[23:15] <danand> ArthurArchnix - dont think claudio76 's machine can use apm - its only two weeks old - should use acpi only
[23:15] <blice> Hi guys... I'm trying to set up camba and krb and winbinds and all of that so I can join this windows domain. I'm having issues, though. At the very end of the tutorial I do 'net ads join -U administrator', and it gives me "Host is not configured as a member server. Invalid configuration. Exiting....; Failed to join domain: Invalid domain role"
[23:15] <Slart> nosto: ok.. open the volume manager
[23:15] <nosto> got u
[23:15] <blice> samba*
[23:15] <Slart> nosto: select the recording page
[23:16] <ArthurArchnix> I can't find any explanation for this except the bios is expecting an apm comment.
[23:16] <Slart> what kind of stuff do you have there? microphone? what else?
[23:16] <danand> ArthurArchnix - dell are known to write some dodgy bios stuff - might be an idea .... shall we try the runlevel thing first though?
[23:16] <Darkmystere> err yet again....my top panel with the main menu and stuff never moves...:lol if i play a fullscreen game...it stays at the top doesnt even flinch...if i play a fullscreen movie stays....if i zoom out to see cube its the only thing going across the top of cube... (disabled nautilus from drawing desktop) if i use xwinwrapper it stays right ontop of the coolness...if i set it to auto-hide half...
[23:16] <Darkmystere> ...of it stays there...
[23:16] <ArthurArchnix> danand: Yes.... I thought he had.
[23:17] <danand> ArthurArchnix - if that works ok ... we'll use that
[23:17] <ArthurArchnix> danand:  Or a hammer.
[23:17] <danand> claudio76 - have you removed that apm .... line from /etc/modules ?
[23:17] <claudio76> ArthurArchnix: yes...on my head
[23:17] <claudio76> danand: si
[23:17] <danand> ArthurArchnix - hard power off - rip out the power lead :)
[23:17] <claudio76> danand: ...ehmmm.....yes
[23:17] <levander> Darkmystere: you've tried logging in and out which restarts the X server?
[23:17] <claudio76> :p
[23:18] <MrKeuner> hi, I could not figure out how to increase the verbosity/debig level of acpid, could someone give me a hand, please?
[23:18] <danand> claudio76 - ok try typing sudo telinit 0  - that should shutoff your machine
[23:18] <Darkmystere> levander: Ive always had this problem on all ubuntu installs...its not a just now thing always happning..
[23:19] <levander> Darkmystere: weird, when i run Windows under virtual box, or mythfrontend, my top panel gets covered up
[23:19] <levander> MrKeuner: 'man acpid' says there's a --debug command line option
[23:19] <Darkmystere> Levander, thats the only time it moves...
[23:19] <ArthurArchnix> hey.... danand looks like it might have worked.
[23:19] <danand> ArthurArchnix - looks like that did something .... claudio76 is gone...
[23:19] <MrKeuner> levander: yes, but I could not find the ubuntu way of doing it
[23:20] <danand> ArthurArchnix - quick ... lets hide :)
[23:20] <MrKeuner> levander: do I change /etc/init.d/acpid?
[23:20] <levander> MrKeuner: what's unubuntu about using command line options?
[23:20] <cjones> can you sitch user in to root
[23:20] <daef> process finished "wash -ing|grep dirt"
[23:20] <ArthurArchnix> danand: If it doesn't work, then we sudo lshw for the bios version, and check dells site to see if an update is available?
[23:20] <levander> MrKeuner: I'm looking at that script.  Hold on.
[23:21] <nicolah> is there a way to boot ubuntu from usb ? (to install it)
[23:21] <MrKeuner> levander: actually I added -d to OPTIONS but that does not seem to change anything
[23:21] <flowOver> where can i find easy to install login screens?
[23:21] <danand> ArthurArchnix - yeah ... might be worth a go ... bios update on my dell latitude worked out a few faults (suspend etc) for me
[23:21] <MrKeuner> OPTIONS in /etc/init.d/acpid
[23:21] <daef> nicolah: i found an abstract way to boot any live-cd from an usb-stick
[23:21] <danand> ArthurArchnix - just gotta do something ... brb
[23:21] <levander> MrKeuner: It looks like you're supposed to modify some /etc/default/acpid file.  Hold on.
[23:22] <cjones> can you sitch user in to root
[23:22] <daef> nicolah: i think you just copy everything and set the bootable flag
[23:23] <ompaul> !root | cjones
[23:23] <ubotu> cjones: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:23] <nicolah> daef: should it work ?
[23:23] <CorruptTerrorist> i'm having a poblem with suspend and hibernate
[23:23] <nicolah> looks pretty easy but I never heard of this method
[23:23] <danand> ArthurArchnix - no claudio yet?
[23:23] <CorruptTerrorist> my pc just shots down
[23:24] <daef> nicolah: hold on... crawling my bookmarks ;)
[23:24] <levander> MrKeuner: you see the "x$VERBOSE" = "xno" in /etc/init.d/acpid?  It seems like you can set VERBOSE=yes in /etc/default/acpid to get some more verbosity.  Still looking.
[23:24] <franco> !it
[23:24] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:24] <MrKeuner> levander: testing
[23:24] <daef> nicolah: check out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/14738 or http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=156467
[23:25] <ArthurArchnix> dunno.. was searching the dell subforum on ubuntuforums.
[23:25] <nicolah> thanks
[23:25] <cjones> ompaul i have already set the root password as well as enabeled gnome root login just want to know if you can just switch user instead of logging all the way out ?
[23:25] <MrKeuner> levander: I set VERBOSE=yes I still get similar /var/log/acpid output, is there a way to test?
[23:25] <levander> MrKeuner: Well, I'm thinking now that MODPROBE_OPTIONS variable is for modprobe, not acpid.  So, you'll get more logging from modprobe.  Does acpid call modproble?
[23:26] <MrKeuner> levander: actually, if I add -d to OPTIONS in /etc/defaults/acpid I get lots of logging in stdin/stderr but not into /var/log/acpid
[23:26] <levander> MrKeuner: 'man modprobe' says modprobe checks MODPROBE_OPTIONS.  'man acpid' says nothing abou that variable.
[23:26] <MrKeuner> levander: dont't know
[23:26] <ArthurArchnix> danand: except that I've found 2 people with same issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=605434&highlight=shutdown   and    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=618724&highlight=shutdown
[23:26] <puff> Is there a shell command that equates to putting the laptop into hibernation or suspend?
[23:26] <ompaul> cjones, I don't support root - you are on your own there and I think you will find the follow item from the bot indicative of a theme around root here
[23:26] <ompaul> !supportroot
[23:26] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[23:26] <puff> My graphics are all whacked up again, thought I'd try suspending or hibernating and restarting, instead of just rebooting.
[23:27] <nickrud> ompaul uses his favorite factoid, again
[23:27] <claudio75> danand: so...it didn't work......ah.....my BIOS version is 1.0.7    .....dell bios
[23:27] <ompaul> nickrud, how observant :)
[23:27] <nickrud> ompaul: seems like every time I glance in here, you're using that one :)
[23:27] <ompaul> nickrud, you don't look that often
[23:28] <CorruptTerrorist> how do i install mysql on apache2?
[23:28]  * ompaul greps logs
[23:28]  * nickrud also lies a lot
[23:28] <levander> MrKeuner: Yeah, I see what /etc/init.d/acpid is calling acpid with $OPTIONS as an argument.  Now it's a matter of looking in 'man acpid' to see what command line options can be passed to acpid for output redirection.
[23:28] <MrKeuner> levander: it loads modules but I don;t know what modules they might be
[23:28] <Slart> CorruptTerrorist: mysql *on* apache2?
[23:28] <Ballena> is there a site with info on what ports that is ok to have open? i just portscanned my router anf found some ports that i don't know if the should be open...
[23:28] <danand> claudio75 - ok, welcome back :)
[23:28] <CorruptTerrorist> how do i install mysql *for apache2?
[23:28] <Slart> CorruptTerrorist: you can use mysql from apache2 if you want.. no need for a special install
[23:28] <claudio75> danand: :)
[23:28] <daef> nicolah: maybe the best resource google spits out..: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610/ and from there:http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/21/usb-ubuntu-704-persistent-install/
[23:29] <CorruptTerrorist> oops... yeah just install mysql
[23:29] <Slart> !mysql
[23:29] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[23:29] <MrKeuner> levander: I see only -d which redirects to stderr/stdout
[23:29] <kenro> ompaul: personA asked personB to suggest personA's root password?
[23:29] <levander> MrKeuner: 'man acpid' says this: "acpid will log all of it’s activities, as well as the stdout and stderr of any actions to a log file (/var/log/acpid by default)." - But, it's not doing that?
[23:29] <kynx> hi leute
[23:29] <kynx> hi leute
[23:29] <MrKeuner> levander: no
[23:29] <kynx> ich bräuchte kurz hilfe
[23:29] <CorruptTerrorist> i don't want lamp
[23:29] <kynx> kann mir einer helfen ?
[23:29] <MrKeuner> levander: may be we can add a log file option too
[23:29] <nickrud> !en
[23:29] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[23:29] <Darkmystere> How Could i use my labtop as a monitor with ubuntu on it i have like an extra labtop i want to make a server...but its monitor is busted i have the labtop to labtop cord thing but im lost still..
[23:29] <Slart> CorruptTerrorist: hmm.. I know that link is about lamp.. but there might be some useful info.. afaik you just install it.. perhaps configure some default passwords and it's ready to go
[23:29] <kenro> ompaul:  personA is either an idiot or a troll.
[23:29] <kynx> oh sry
[23:30] <levander> MrKeuner: ah, look at the 'man acpid' info for '-d' in there.
[23:30] <Slart> !de | kynx
[23:30] <ubotu> kynx: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:30] <daef> nicolah: you still here?
[23:30] <ompaul> kenro, or worse
[23:30] <kynx> i have a problem with ubuntu terminal
[23:30] <danand> claudio75 - could you type        lspci -vvv > lspci.txt && lshw > lshw.txt && lsmod > lsmod.txt       and pastebin the contents of those 3 files as before
[23:30] <daef> kynx: which?
[23:30] <claudio75> danand: yes ok
[23:30] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[23:30] <kenro> ompaul: There's worse?
[23:31] <daef> maybe see http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610/ and http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/21/usb-ubuntu-704-persistent-install/
[23:31] <levander> MrKeuner: could set OPTIONS in /etc/default/acpid to "-d 2>&1 /var/log/acpid" (i think 2>>&1 is the right syntax)
[23:31] <Cpudan80> I've got a problem with my xorg.conf file
[23:31] <daef> nicolah: maybe see http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610/ and http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/21/usb-ubuntu-704-persistent-install/
[23:31] <levander> MrKeuner: you se what i'm doing?  Using OPTIONS to do shell redirection of output?
[23:31] <blice> part
[23:31] <blice> ..
[23:31] <ompaul> kenro, yeap, but like fight club we don't discuss it
[23:31] <daef> bye
[23:31] <daveb> i have amd64 x2
[23:31] <daveb> dual core
[23:31] <Cpudan80> Basically -- I want to setup dual displays (it's a laptop) --- the laptop panel should display at 1024x768, the external should use 1280x1024 --- they both should "mirror" the actual desktop (ie. no extensions). It's an ATI Mobility 7500 with radeon drivers
[23:31] <daveb> one core is 100% busy with IOwait
[23:32] <daveb> how can i figure out what is causing it?
[23:32]  * Slart once got the advice to run aplay /dev/urandom.. but with a nohup .. nasty =)
[23:32] <claudio75> danand: it says WARNING: you should run this program as super-user. so i typed sudo...but it says the same things
[23:32] <daef> claudio75: try sudo bash and then call the file
[23:32] <nickrud> daef: better to suggest sudo -i
[23:33] <claudio75> danand: ah no wait....it has worked
[23:33] <Cpudan80> So far, I have the internal display and external display showing the correct resolutions --- but on the external display, the desktop (and GDM window) are shoved in the upper left corner (taking up 1024x768 pixels) ---- I can drag windows beyond this to take up the full space available on the monitor --- but I really shouldn't have to do that
[23:33] <Cpudan80> Any ideas?
[23:33] <kenro> In either case, anyone read manga here? I'm following iD_entity right now. Dem Korianz iz crazy...
[23:33] <daef> nickrud: -i == interactive shell ???
[23:33] <prodigel> Hi all. I want to setup a wireless network, and probably I'm very close to do it, but I don't have the certainty. Currently I'm connected to the wireless access point by cable, also by wireless, on cable I got an IP(I'm chatting here by wire) but by wireless I don't get any response on dhclient. How do I check if I'm really connected to the wireless network, and if so how do I get an IP from it?
[23:33] <FarrisG> I  have an amd64 machine running Gutsy. I've installed the lib32 packages, and most 32bit binaries will now run. But I have a few that still complain of "lib-this-or-that.so.0: cannot open shared object: No such file or directory"
[23:33] <FarrisG> One example is libpthread
[23:33] <kenro> ompaul: In either case, d'you read manga? I'm following iD_entity right now. Dem Korianz iz crazy...
[23:33] <nickrud> daef: yes. try  sudo -i  , and run env | sort . repeat with sudo -s .
[23:33] <daef> prodigel: wireshark??
[23:34] <Cpudan80> http://www.pastebin.ca/922583 is the xorg.conf file
[23:34] <prodigel> daef: what's wireshark?
[23:34] <Slart> prodigel: you should have a separate interface for the wireless connection.. just try sudo ifup youtwirelessinterfacehere.. and see if it gets an ip.. or use the network manager
[23:34] <daef> prodigel: a network-package analysis tool
[23:34] <ompaul> kenro, no, and I think if we continued that we would be well offtopic for here :)
[23:34] <daef> nickrud: /me is currently sitting on a windows maching /*shame on /me*/
[23:34] <kenro> prodigel:  Used to be called Etherape, I think.
[23:34] <danand> claudio75 - do you still have windows on your machine?
[23:35] <nickrud> daef: hah. At least you're trying to help the right side
[23:35] <prodigel> kenro: I'm installing it now... that wireshark, thanks
[23:35] <claudio75> !paste
[23:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:35] <daef> nickrud: ;)
[23:35] <claudio75> danand: wait
[23:35] <kenro> ompaul: I like ot...
[23:35] <prodigel> Slart: I'm having a separat device, is called ra0
[23:35] <daef> kenro: etherape is when you plug a crossed cable into a switch without spanning tree and wait for a broadcast-package...
[23:36] <Slart> prodigel: then run ifconfig and see if that interface has an ip
[23:36] <SpudDogg> prodigel:  that's a ralink device, and shout work in Ubuntu
[23:36] <claudio75> danand: lspci.txt http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57766/
[23:36] <daef> kenro: (both ends of the cable into the switch !)
[23:36] <danand> ArthurArchnix - just took a look at those links - seems alot of people are having this problem ... just looked at dells website - there is a new bios update available
[23:36] <prodigel> Slart: It doesn'
[23:36] <CorruptTerrorist> finally on linux!!!
[23:36] <kenro> daef:  hoo hoo ick!
[23:36] <milamb3r> anyone here know how to install WINE ? all i get is a package to install.
[23:36] <Dante123> hi all.  Once in awhile my desktop pc starts to boot (I get the Ubuntu screen with orange progress bar) but then stops.  It will sit there and do nothing.  If I turn it off and select ubuntu from grub then hit enter manually it usually works...sometimes just rebooting works fine without hitting anything.  Is this a bug or a problem specific to just my pc?
[23:36] <Slart> prodigel: then you're wireless connection isn't working as it should
[23:36] <daef> kenro: hoo hoo ick????
[23:37] <Aghachi> ok why doesnt ubuntu install
[23:37] <Slart> milamb3r: sudo apt-get install wine should do it
[23:37] <milamb3r> ty slart
[23:37] <Aghachi> nothing happens when i press enter
[23:37] <daef> milamb3r: install the package??
[23:37] <Aghachi> at eh boot screen for installing
[23:37] <stormze1> A line in a script is giving me the error "58: Syntax error: Bad for loop variable", but the same line is working as it should in bash:  for ((i=1;i< (( 10 + 1 )) ;i+=1)); do echo $i; done .  There is a reference: #!/bin/bash at the top of the script.  What is going on?
[23:37] <claudio75> danand: lshw.txt http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57767/
[23:37] <levander> Aghachi: keyboard is broken, get a new one
[23:37] <Aghachi> lol
[23:37] <kenro> daef Ape talk. anyway, I've done that. Was in a coma for 3 weeks.
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> danand, Thanks for that link on acpi..
[23:37] <prodigel> Slart: Still I got an ip from the router on wire, and in settings page I don't see options of two dhcp servers, maybe that's the cause. it's an edimax btw
[23:37] <Slart> milamb3r: when it's finished you can test it by running "wine notepad" in a terminal
[23:37] <Aghachi> no really
[23:37] <ArthurArchnix> danand: I have been. Dell's site I mean.
[23:37] <Aghachi> is it becuase my c: drive does not contain windows?
[23:37] <SpudDogg> prodigel:  if you're not sure, unplug your ethernet cable and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' and that device should get an IP, assuming you have your encryption key, etc set up in '/etc/network/interfaces'  Keep in mind that after restarting the networking initscript, you won't have any connection as long as the ethernet cable is unplugged and the wireless device is not set up properly
[23:37] <milamb3r> ok cool
[23:37] <danand> Jack_Sparrow - eh??
[23:38] <Aghachi> my c:drive is a external hardrive
[23:38] <daef> kenro: what does a ape has to do with broadcast-storms and coma??
[23:38] <claudio75> danand: lsmod.txt http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57768/
[23:38] <Aghachi> my d and e are internals
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> danand, I saw a link earlier on systems not shutting down..
[23:38] <Slart> prodigel: I'm absolutely hopeless with it comes to wireless.. sorry.. I'm just so happy it just worked out of the box on my laptop
[23:38] <Aghachi> slart me 2!
[23:38] <daef> Aghachi: when you have a c: drive this is the wrong place ;)
[23:38] <SpudDogg> daef:  lol
[23:38] <milamb3r> Slart: is ubuntu commands similar to fedora
[23:38] <kenro> daef:  I was talking about etherape/wireshark. Where you?
[23:39] <Aghachi> cmon help me please im a complete n00b what do i haave to do
[23:39] <daef> kenro: etherape is when you plug a crossed cable into a switch without spanning tree and wait for a broadcast-package...
[23:39] <Slart> milamb3r: they are both linux.. most things should be the same.. some other things differ.. such as how you install software
[23:39] <Dante123> hi all.  Once in awhile my desktop pc starts to boot (I get the Ubuntu screen with orange progress bar) but then stops.  It will sit there and do nothing.  If I turn it off and select ubuntu from grub then hit enter manually it usually works...sometimes just rebooting works fine without hitting anything.  Is this a bug or a problem specific to just my pc?
[23:39] <daef> with both ends
[23:39] <Carbonflux> does anyone know if its going to be possible to upgrade 7.10 to 8.x when its released or will it require a reinstall ?
[23:39] <bod_> Carbonflux, upgrade
[23:39] <Carbonflux> thanks :)
[23:39] <danand> Jack_Sparrow - ah ... you having probs too?
[23:39] <Slart> Carbonflux: they usually try to make it possible to upgrade.. they don't always succeed though =)
[23:39] <SpudDogg> Dante123:  disable the splash screen so you might be able to see an error
[23:39] <daef> Dante123: unsuspected reboot may be a damaged power-adapter
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> danand, By editing bios and disabling acpi and adding acpi=off apm=on to boot grub and apm power_off=1 to /etc/modules I fixed one system that was hanging
[23:40] <Aghachi> should i unplug external and c if that works?
[23:40] <Carbonflux> Slart, heh ya I understand...upgrading is a nice luxury if possible :)
[23:40] <daef> g2g...
[23:40] <Dante123> daef:  what do you mean?  SpudDogg: how do I do that?
[23:40] <daef> ...bye
[23:40] <milamb3r> slart - apt-get command not working
[23:40] <bod_> Slart, i believe their also trying to make it possible to upgrade from fiesty to hardy, skipping gutsy,.,.afaik
[23:40] <kenro> daef:  Yeah you said that. I did that. Silly me, I plugged into a power outlet, not a dataport. I was in a coma for 6 weeks.
[23:40] <SpudDogg> Dante123:  well, you could do it one of 2 ways:   (hang on, typing this out)
[23:40] <Slart> bod_: ah.. some developers deserve a cookie I think =)
[23:41] <daef> kenro: ah.......
[23:41] <bod_> Slart, absolutely
[23:41] <Slart> milamb3r: not working? errors?
[23:41] <levander> Dante123: modify you're /boot/grub/menu.lst so that the default boot entry does not boot with 'quiet splash' but instead boots with 'nosplash'.  This way, next time you get the error, you will see the last message the system has printed out, and it won't be hidden by the splash screen.
[23:41] <daef> Dante123: the thingie where your power cord goes in may not do it's job
[23:41] <SpudDogg> 1:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to get rid of "splash" at the end of the "kernel" line or...
[23:41] <Carbonflux> being able to upgrade is going to help adoption in the desktop area.
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, It was lts version to lts version  daper to hardy
[23:41] <SpudDogg> Dante123:   1:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to get rid of "splash" at the end of the "kernel" line or...
[23:41] <kenro> daef:  tat was the second time I did that.
[23:41] <daef> Dante123: http://www.rasurbo.com/images/fotos/rasurbo_netzteil_silent.jpg
[23:41] <danand> Jack_Sparrow - what system was that on?
[23:42] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, ah dapper,.,.before fiesty right?
[23:42] <Slart> I just love this factoid..
[23:42] <Slart> !doesntwork
[23:42] <daef> kenro: i got 230 volts a few times - never ended in more than a little scream ;)
[23:42] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[23:42]  * daef lucky me
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> danand, just one of the old ones I have sitting around
[23:42] <Aghachi> daef so do i need a C;\ internal is that the problem?
[23:42] <danand> Jack_Sparrow - ok
[23:42] <Dante123> daef: you mean from power supply to mobo?  levander: do I just edit line to "nosplash" - is that the right syntax
[23:42] <levander> Dante123: don't get a new power supply till you've seen what error message your system is hanging at
[23:42] <daef> Aghachi: you need a /dev/*d**
[23:42] <claudio75> danand: so?
[23:42] <danand> claudio75 - do you still have windows on your machine?
[23:42] <SpudDogg> Dante123:  2.  When the grub screen comes up during boot, press "e" to edit the boot commands.  Simply get rid of the "splash" on the end of the kernel line.  you will have to do this every time you boot until you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, yes
[23:42] <claudio75> danand: no
[23:42] <ArthurArchnix> danand: Everything I can find says the bios is bad in this series.
[23:43] <Aghachi> daef english please or tell me where i can translate that
[23:43] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, ty ;~)
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:43] <bod_> Slart,  mistake -- its daper to hardy, not fiesty to hardy
[23:43] <SpudDogg> Dante123:  when you're done editing the line, "enter" to save it, then "b" to boot it
[23:43] <azzic> could anyone help me with Pidgin? qry plz...
[23:43] <ArthurArchnix> Although one person said 1.0.3 was certified by novell.
[23:43] <daef> Aghachi: you need a /dev/sd** or /dev/hd**
[23:43] <kenro> daef:  I must have more salt and heavy metals in my blood than usual, then. Nearly killed -me-...
[23:43] <werneck> I'm trying to make ubuntu start vncserver at boot... a pretty simple script at /etc/init.d, and the link at /etc/rc3.d/S99vncstart, but no luck... it doesn't even touch it
[23:43] <Slart> bod_: yes.. that makes sense.. lst to lst
[23:43] <claudio75> danand: i have not windows here
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, Still some issues being worked on..
[23:43] <daef> kenro: not so funny one... ;)
[23:43] <bod_> Slart, i think you mean -- lts to lts
[23:43] <Aghachi> i dont understand what that means is that i commadn i type in the text mode?
[23:43] <levander> SpudDogg: after he edits /boot/grub/menu.lst, does he have to run update-grub or something like that?  I can't remember if you have to reinstall grub after modifying that file or not.
[23:44] <danand> ArthurArchnix - was just getting around to trying that - dell has new bios revision out 1.0.9 i think .... trouble is ... no windows
[23:44] <Slart> bod_: well.. long time support or long support time.. it's all good =)
[23:44] <daef> can anyone tell Aghachi why a c:\ drive is wrong??
[23:44] <claudio75> ArthurArchnix: mine is 1.0.7
[23:44] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, thats to be expected as hardy isnt stable yet,. but i hear that skippin distro upgrade is tricky anyway,.,.
[23:44] <SpudDogg> levander:  Dante123:  you will NOT have to re-run grub-install or update grub or anything like that...Just reboot
[23:44] <bod_> Slart, i thought it was -- long term suppot
[23:44] <Aghachi> daef ok so im in xp i want to reformat my d and e to a partion that ubuntu will use
[23:44] <kenro> daef:  roleplay, not comedy... And you never believed the first word, huh? ;)
[23:44] <daef> Aghachi: backslashes are evil... windows uses backslashes... windows is evil.... use linux - you will get rid of c:\ d:\ and so on...
[23:45] <Dante123> okay will try the "e" method first.  I admit daef that I have a pretty cheap power supply in their but enough power for the system.  I'll try to see what the message is without the splash screen there.  If I decide to disable splash do I add nosplash at the end of the line or just delete the reference to splash and it defaults to nosplash?
[23:45] <stormze1> A line in a script is giving me the error "58: Syntax error: Bad for loop variable", but the same line is working as it should in bash:  for ((i=1;i< (( 10 + 1 )) ;i+=1)); do echo $i; done .  There is a reference: #!/bin/bash at the top of the script.  What is going on?
[23:45] <Aghachi> i wanna make those one partion and format it for linux
[23:45] <Slart> bod_: hmm.. I think you might be right there... I give up.. I need coffee or sleep.. on or the other..
[23:45] <claudio75> danand: no wait...did you asked me if i have windows xp or vista????
[23:45] <bod_> daef, but ur ubuntu drive is z:\    ;~)
[23:45] <Slart> *one
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, lts to lts is the ultimate goal...  not sure thay have it working yet..
[23:45] <daef> kenro: i played dsa and dnd a few yrs ago...
[23:45] <bod_> Slart,  im going with coffee tonight ;~)
[23:45] <SpudDogg> Dante123:  nosplash might work, but i just remove splash completely
[23:46] <arakthor> What's a fast way to install the majority of the common developer packges?
[23:46] <mnuaimat> hello everybody, can anyone tell me how to install GTK-sopcast, the .deb provided in http://linuxtoy.org/archives/gtk_sopcast.html doesn't install here, since iam using 64bit arch, heeeeeeeeeeellllllllp please
[23:46] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, why is it so difficult? is it because they dont completely ebuild things from scratch each time, they just add kernal patches and stuff?
[23:46] <ArthurArchnix> claudio75: I know. danand.. seen this?
[23:46] <ArthurArchnix> http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Repository/firmware
[23:46] <daef> Aghachi: format the drives via linux..
[23:46] <daef> Aghachi: where is the prob?
[23:46] <kenro> daef:  I've lived and breathed WhiteWolf for 10 years now.
[23:46] <Aghachi> ok when i boto the ubuntu cd
[23:46] <Aghachi> and let it count down for install
[23:46] <Aghachi> nothing happends
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, If it was that simple, they would be having a hard time with it..
[23:46] <Dante123> okay thanks everyone...
[23:46] <Aghachi> boot*
[23:46] <Slart> stormze1: looks fine to me.. hang on.. let me try it
[23:47] <daef> kenro: okay... so your stamina may be higher than mine...
[23:47] <daef> kenro: my roleplay-time ended when i started working ;)
[23:47] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, i suppose theres alot of stuff to remember and alotof stuff ets forgotten (temporeroly)
[23:47] <Aghachi> im asking is it becuase it doesnt recognize a dirve? im lokking to format my d and e to one partion to be used for bntu
[23:48] <Aghachi> my xp is on d drive and e is just holding stuff and my c is a external hd
[23:48] <Slart> stormze1: you're running it using sh for some reason
[23:48] <daef> Aghachi: but formatting a device the installer cannot find will not force the find-progress
[23:48] <daef> Aghachi: the problem is something else!!
[23:48] <danand> claudio75 - on the machine with ubuntu on, do you dual boot with any windows system?
[23:48] <Aghachi> i kno its confusing i duno how i came into that setup lol
[23:48] <claudio75> ArthurArchnix: no wait....i don't want to risk and change BIOS
[23:48] <Aghachi> what is it then?
[23:48] <claudio75> danand: no!!!
[23:48] <Aghachi> my boot cd?
[23:48] <claudio75> danand: i've only gutsy
[23:48] <kenro> daef: You've heard the saying 'I don't work. Takes away my fishing time'?
[23:48] <daef> Aghachi: that is the question you should ask...
[23:49] <bod_> !enter > Aghachi     please read pm from ubotu
[23:49] <zetheroo> how do you unblock someone on pidgin?
[23:49] <daef> kenro: no i didn't - but there is some truth in it
[23:49] <mad_max02> how can I find out UUID of my hdd ??
[23:49] <Slart> stormze1: or you're running it using dash... that also gives the error about the for-loop variable
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid
[23:49] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[23:49] <Slart> mad_max02: blkid
[23:49] <claudio75> danand: i bought it with vista but i installed ubuntu formatting vista
[23:49] <kenro> heh
[23:49] <bod_> claudio75, good move ;~)
[23:49] <claudio75> danand: useing all the disk for ubuntu
[23:49] <daef> got 2 go...
[23:49] <stormze1> Slart: Why would it do that when line 1 is: #!/bin/bash ?
[23:49] <daef> i part awayy
[23:49] <daef> bye
[23:49] <daef> have
[23:49] <daef> a
[23:49] <daef>  lot
[23:49] <FloodBot2> daef: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <bod_> ha
[23:50] <Slart> stormze1: check if /bin/bash isn't linked to dash
[23:50] <mad_max02> Slart, thanks dude
[23:50] <Slart> stormze1: ls -l /bin/*sh
[23:50] <stormze1> Slart: Oh no... I bet it is..
[23:50] <Slart> mad_max02: you're welcome
[23:50] <Slart> stormze1: try changing it to #!/bin/rbash
[23:50] <Triston> My system keeps hard locking and it's getting really annoying.  How should I go about finding out the cause?
[23:50] <kenro> I need a #manga fix...
[23:51] <stormze1> Slart: It isn't, but bin/sh is... is it ubuntu overriding me?
[23:51] <bod_> Triston, when does it "had lock" ?
[23:51] <stormze1> Slart: What is rbash?
[23:51] <kenro> Any suggestions?
[23:51] <Aghachi> im so confused right now.... whats my problem if nothing happends when i  push the enter botten at the boot menu to install
[23:51] <Slart> stormze1: it's another executable in /bin.. linked to bash on my computer at least
[23:51] <claudio75> danand: what are you thinking? any new idea?
[23:52] <Darkmystere> ok well, anyone know how to stop a command run in ALT+F2 thing?
[23:52] <Slart> Darkmystere: pkill nameofprocess
[23:52] <stormze1> Slart: No joy.  Some error.
[23:52] <Triston> bod_: It's done it once before while the computer was idle, but it's almost always while I'm using the internet, through a browser or otherwise.  I don't know if it matters, but I'm using a wifi adapter with ndiswrapper.
[23:52] <bod_> Darkmystere, top to find what its called,. then killall processname
[23:52] <Slart> Darkmystere: or xkill and click the window you want to kill
[23:52] <factotum> My mp3 file names are a mess, anyone recommend and app to get them organized?
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Triston, I would run any live version and see if the problem persists.  If the problem persists then it is a hardware issue like ram , power supplyor an overheating cpu  if not it will be an os issue
[23:52] <ArthurArchnix> claudio75: ok. Well, if you change your mind instructions are on that link. At this point I'd say phone dell.
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> factotum: easytag!
[23:53] <mad_max02> Slart, dude do you maybe know what up with CPU count. I just installed new cpu and in libsensors it shows 4 cores (2 Core0 and 2 Core1)
[23:53] <Slart> stormze1: can't you just run the script with bash .. as in "bash scriptname" ?
[23:53] <danand> claudio75 - ok - looks like ArthurArchnix found a site that will help us out ... apparently dell do a utility to enable ubuntu to update the bios ... see http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Repository/firmware
[23:53] <bod_> Triston, browse your /home/Triston/   folder with nautilus then look for error logs?
[23:53] <Triston> Jack_Sparrow: Unfortunately, I wish it were a hardware issue.  It doesn't do this in my Windows install.
[23:53] <Odd-rationale> factotum: or kid3 if for kde.
[23:53] <Slart> mad_max02: you've got  quad-core?
[23:53] <factotum> Odd-rationale: thank you very much!
[23:53] <MrKeuner> levander: yes, I see your point. Testing now
[23:53] <claudio75> ArthurArchnix: uhmmm...no i don't want to change BIOS...it's a too big risk
[23:53] <danand> ArthurArchnix - good find :)
[23:53] <bod_> Triston, on windows? ask in ##windows
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Triston, Does it do it with a LIVE ubuntu disk?
[23:53] <ArthurArchnix> danand: He doesn't want to. I'm going to bed now... boot with acpi=off and see if that helps.
[23:53] <Odd-rationale> factotum: np
[23:53] <ArthurArchnix> claudio75: danand good luck!
[23:54] <factotum> Odd-rationale: Just cause you mentioned it, have you tried kde4 yet?
[23:54] <claudio75> danand: already seen it....but it's a risk!!!
[23:54] <danand> ArthurArchnix - ok night
[23:54] <stormze1> Slart: Yes, that works.  ( However, it's one of about 50 scripts, with calls written all over in all 50 scripts. )
[23:54] <mad_max02> Slart, nope. Just installed faster AMD X2. I also had AMD X2 before this one. Same mobo and everything just swapped cpus
[23:54] <Triston> Jack_Sparrow: I haven't tried that yet, but I will.  I think it's something to do with my wifi adapter, but I can't be sure.  It didn't do this before I used ndiswrapper.
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> factotum: yes I have. Went back to 3.5 and waiting eagerly for 4.1. :)
[23:54] <danand> claudio75 - hmmmm...
[23:54] <claudio75> arththanks a lot..goodnight
[23:54] <stormze1> Slart: I kind of expected that #!/bin/bash would be the final word.
[23:54] <Slart> stormze1: nggh.. I see the problem... I think you need to speak with one of the gurus in the channel
[23:55] <Triston> bod_: I don't see any error log files in that folder.
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Triston, Ok.. so you have some clues as to where the problem will be
[23:55] <Darkmystere> well, i have xwinwrapper running i want to stop it it has the glmatrix thing running as my background
[23:55] <bod_> Slart, bash probs might be solved eeasier in #bash  ?
[23:55] <mad_max02> Slart, and this is what I get at the end of dmsg | grep CPU
[23:55] <Slart> stormze1: it does seem that way.. don't really know why it does that..
[23:55] <factotum> Odd-rationale: Ive been wanting to check it out but havent gotten around to it. I was a Mac user up until about a year ago when I sold my G4. I was drooling at the screenshots. But anyways thanks again.
[23:55] <mad_max02> Slart, [   30.407918] Brought up 2 CPUs
[23:55] <danand> claudio75 - do you want to try it?
[23:55] <stormze1> bod_: This appears to be a ubuntu problem.
[23:55] <bod_> Triston, try einstalling the wifi and donload the driver again
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> factotum: FYI, easytag has a better intefaces than kid3. One of the few really great gkt+ apps...
[23:55] <Triston> Jack_Sparrow: Speculation.. I don't have any proof yet that it's the cause, though.  I'd use the default driver "prism54usb" that comes up, but when I use it, my wifi adapter disconnects every now and again.
[23:56] <claudio75> danand: no...i'm sorry...the risk is too big
[23:56] <Slart> bod_: well.. it isn't a bash problem.. =) we're trying to make it a bash problem but at the moment it's a dash problem =)
[23:56] <stormze1> bod_: ( All of the scripts worked in FC6 )
[23:56] <bod_> stormze1, an ubuntu problem concerning bash? wouldnt bash programmers be helpfull?
[23:56] <MrKeuner> levander: set OPTIONS in /etc/default/acpid to "-d 2>&1 /var/log/acpid" (i think 2>>&1 is the right syntax) I guess there is a problem with that, shouldn't it be -d 2>>&1 -l /var/log/acpid ?
[23:56] <bod_> Slart, lol,.,.ok
[23:56] <stormze1> bod_: Don't think so -- think it's more of a ubuntu packaging issue.
[23:56] <Decinoge> i would kinda propose to doxygen people this icon, if it didn't violated a bunch of copyrights: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/Decinoge/doxyShow.png
[23:56] <Decinoge> :\
[23:56] <Slart> mad_max02: but there might be 2 sensors for each processor.. for some reason
[23:56] <bod_> stormze1, kk, fair play
[23:57]  * bod_ pre warns his internet will be cut off in the next 20 mins
[23:57] <stormze1> Slart: Got a particular guru that you would recommend for this problem?
[23:57] <MrKeuner> levander: or -d 2>>&1 >> /var/log/acpid ?
[23:57] <mad_max02> Slart, maybe I should reinstall libsensor ??
[23:58] <mad_max02> Slart, strange thing is that I get 4 diff measurements :D
[23:58] <Slart> stormze1: hmm.. have you tried putting a space between the ! and /bin/bash  ?
[23:58] <mad_max02> Slart, ranging from 5 to 19 degrees
[23:58] <Slart> stormze1: #! /bin/bash
[23:58] <Starnestommy> try chmod +x ./scriptname
[23:58] <bod_> Slart, why would/could that be a problem?
[23:58] <claudio75> danand: still thinking about it? if not then i'll go to sleep....i'll try again tomorrow morning and afternoon
[23:58] <Slart> mad_max02: I don't think that will change anything.. but there is a detection script that tries to find out what sensors you ahve..  you might want to run that again
[23:58] <MrKeuner> levander: unfortunately, none of them work as intended
[23:59] <kenro> Where's a goog anim-manga #irc?
[23:59] <Slart> bod_: because that's the way they write it in the wiki.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[23:59] <mad_max02> Slart, where to find that ?
[23:59] <Triston> I think I found a possible problem.. looks like I'm using an old ndiswrapper version.. not sure how I did that.  I was pretty sure it was the latest.