[13:30] <Nubae> is there a way I can switch off all messages about new cdroms being put into drive? (right now it comes up on every screen), I know this is due to a change to gvfs, but there must be a way to switch off notification completely
[13:33] <ogra_cmpc> Nubae, you can make the cdpinger binary in the chroot unexecutable (and rebuild the image) but that switches off any cd handling)
[13:36] <Nubae> even at pxe level?
[13:36] <Nubae> because I boot from cdroms
[13:36] <Nubae> if not, that's fine
[13:37] <Nubae> and that doesnt affect the server's cdrom drive right?
[13:37] <ogra_cmpc> no, only in the users sessions
[13:37] <ogra_cmpc> right
[13:37] <ogra_cmpc> that will still show up on all desktops and be accessible by everyone
[13:37] <Nubae> ok, Ill do that
[13:38] <ogra_cmpc> server and client media handling are two totally separate things
[13:38] <Nubae> only the fat chroots need cdrom media anyway
[13:38] <Nubae> so can handle it that way
[13:38] <ogra_cmpc> well, the fat ones should handle it as local devices via hal
[13:38] <Nubae> yeah i supposed, but never good to assume anything ;-)
[13:38] <ogra_cmpc> and gnome-volume-manager otr whatever the desktop you have uses
[13:39] <Nubae> ok, so cdpinger is where?
[13:40] <ogra_cmpc> in usr/sbin/ in the chroot
[13:41] <Nubae> I'm running hardy production now
[13:41] <Nubae> last couple days without issues
[13:41] <Nubae> except for the cd thing
[13:43] <Nubae> i get it for the floppy too
[13:43] <Nubae> floppypinger?
[13:44] <ogra_cmpc> delayed mounter in the ldm rc.d scripts
[13:47] <Nubae> any idea where?
[13:48] <Nubae> right now my system places has everyone's cdrom and floppy locations :-) funny
[14:03] <Nubae> found it: /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/S10-delayed-mounter
[14:04] <Nubae> so delayed mounter only does floppies?
[14:05] <ogra_cmpc> and usb devices that were plugged in before login
[14:05] <Nubae> ok, so if I turn this off, then when a person puts ina  new stick
[14:05] <Nubae> it will still show, right?
[14:06] <ogra_cmpc> if your users use them like that they need to re-plug
[14:06] <ogra_cmpc> after logging in
[14:06] <Nubae> ok, so make sure plug in after logging in?
[14:06] <ogra_cmpc> right
[14:06] <stgraber> ogra_cmpc: Have you filed the MIR ? :) (just a quick reminder)
[14:06] <Nubae> ok, cool
[14:06] <ogra_cmpc> oh man
[14:06] <ogra_cmpc> *blush*
[14:08] <ogra_cmpc> gimmie 10 min to finish lunch, i'll do it right now
[14:26] <ogra_cmpc> stgraber, the build-deps are all in main, right ?
[14:35] <stgraber> ogra_cmpc: last I checked, yes
[14:36] <ogra_cmpc> oki, working on the report
[14:37] <Nubae> I've got a list of non-existen places under places -> removable devices, how can I get rid of that/refresh it?
[15:27] <ogra_cmpc> stgraber, do you know the ica port from the top of your head ?
[15:28] <stgraber> 5800 and 5900
[15:29] <stgraber> for the default values, for LTSP it's 10000+last byte from IP and 11000+last byte from IP
[15:29] <ogra_cmpc> 5800 and 900 are enough
[15:30] <ogra_cmpc> why two ?
[15:30] <ogra_cmpc> 5800 for master and 5900 for client ?
[15:31] <stgraber> nope, one for VNC, the other for italc's internal protocol
[15:32] <stgraber> 5800 is isd (iTalc daemon) and 5900 is ivs (VNC)
[15:33] <stgraber> ivs is basically a slightly modified x11vnc
[15:34] <ogra_cmpc> ah
[15:35] <ogra_cmpc> ok
[15:35] <ogra_cmpc> thanks
[16:20] <ogra_cmpc> stgraber, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportItalc please take a quick look that i didnt tell any rubbish
[16:20] <ogra_cmpc> (you know it better than me)
[16:20] <TelnetManta> Any exciting news coming from Edubuntu in the near future?
[16:21] <TelnetManta> Hi Ogra
[16:22] <ogra_cmpc> TelnetManta, i think the cd reorganization is the biggest one ....
[16:23] <ogra_cmpc> (and thats not actually *new* news :) )
[16:23] <stgraber> ogra_cmpc: looks good
[16:24] <ogra_cmpc> oki
[16:27] <TelnetManta> ogra_cmpc: Thanks, any new built in support for ldap/AD user authentication for those of use wanting to integrate into an existing network?
[16:28] <ogra_cmpc> TelnetManta, that task was completely assigned to the server team at the beginning of the hardy cycle
[16:30] <TelnetManta> Ah, I dont know of you remember me. I worked last year to get Edubuntu to work with Novell NDS Servers.
[16:30] <TelnetManta> Was a pain :) and just wondered if any support was built in yet.
[16:30] <ogra_cmpc> stgraber, bug #197034 :)
[16:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197034 in italc "main inclusion request for italc 1.0.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197034
[16:30] <ogra_cmpc> there we go
[16:31] <ogra_cmpc> trhanks for nagging again ... i'm knee deep in classmate stuff and tend to forget other stuff atm
[16:31] <ogra_cmpc> TelnetManta, #ubuntu-server might be your best bet
[16:32] <TelnetManta> lol, not nagging you. I was just wondering. I dont talk alot in here but saw you on.
[16:32] <TelnetManta> just wanted to say hi, really/
[16:33] <ogra_cmpc> TelnetManta, no, that thanks was for stgraber and meant as a serious thank you :)
[16:33] <TelnetManta> oh, ok. :)
[16:50] <LaserJock> ogra: pitti rejected all my squeak packages :/
[16:50] <ogra_cmpc> ugh, why that
[16:51] <ogra_cmpc> and i was joking in -devel
[16:51] <LaserJock> mostly licensing
[16:51] <LaserJock> and he didn't like that the image packages are native
[16:51] <ogra_cmpc> didnt you tell him iTs multiverse ?
[16:51] <LaserJock> well, I thought so
[16:51] <LaserJock> but he said there's some GPL violation
[16:52] <LaserJock> and the actual license is unclear
[16:52] <LaserJock> which I totally agree with
[16:52] <LaserJock> but it's Multiverse, it's supposed to be messy ;-)
[16:52] <ogra_cmpc> right
[16:52] <LaserJock> I don't think I can do much better with these silly packages
[16:52] <LaserJock> it's just a messy messy upstream
[16:52] <ogra_cmpc> did the license change wrt our old packages ?
[16:53] <LaserJock> I think it's much clearer in the new packages
[16:53] <ogra_cmpc> the old one was approved by elmo
[16:53] <LaserJock> but standards have greatly increased since Dapper/Breezy
[16:53] <ogra_cmpc> with pro-vote of sabdfl back then
[16:54] <LaserJock> I'll email pitti back with the best explanations I have
[16:54] <ogra_cmpc> right
[16:54] <LaserJock> but most of it is really out of my hands
[16:54] <ogra_cmpc> and point out the history as well
[16:54] <LaserJock> especially if we're trying to sync with the Debian guys
[16:54] <ogra_cmpc> (the one in ubuntu i just listed)
[16:55] <ogra_cmpc> would be a massive loss to keep the old ones
[16:56] <LaserJock> indeed
[17:00] <LaserJock> ogra_cmpc: is your nick registered, btw
[17:00] <LaserJock> ?
[17:00] <ogra_cmpc> erm, not ths one, no
[17:01] <ogra_cmpc> sad news though, but the other stuff is more important
[17:02] <LaserJock> unfortunately
[17:02] <LaserJock> :-)
[17:02] <LaserJock> my wife is gonna kill me if I don't graduate ;-)
[17:02] <ogra_cmpc> moquist, RichEd and me will hold up the edu flag in prague ...
[17:02] <LaserJock> I'll try to help as much as I can as always
[17:02] <LaserJock> good :-)
[17:02] <ogra_cmpc> next time again then :)
[17:03] <LaserJock> yeah, I'd like to go again some time
[17:03] <ogra_cmpc> prague is quite a loss though ....
[17:03] <ogra_cmpc> a city i wouldnt want to miss
[17:03] <LaserJock> yeah, 2 grad students from my department spent 6 months there doing research last year
[17:04] <LaserJock> sounded like it was a real experience
[17:04] <ogra_cmpc> its a beauty
[17:04] <LaserJock> I'd like to see a German UDS
[17:04] <ogra_cmpc> a city to fall in love with just beacuse of the looks
[17:05] <LaserJock> stop, you're making me want to go ;-)
[17:05]  * ogra_cmpc shuts up
[17:06] <LaserJock> heh
[17:06] <LaserJock> maybe I can defend my PhD via Skype? :-)
[17:10] <ogra_cmpc> heh
[17:13] <LaserJock> alright, well I gotta run to a meeting
[17:13] <LaserJock> I sent an email to clair/jorge/moquist saying I can't make it
[17:13] <ogra_cmpc> ciao
[17:13] <LaserJock> and I'll follow up with pitti about squeak :/
[17:13] <ogra_cmpc> i'll nag pitti a bin
[17:13] <ogra_cmpc> bit
[17:13] <LaserJock> yeah, if you could that'd help
[17:14] <LaserJock> I'll send an email explaining the details as best I can
[17:14] <LaserJock> but some "backup" from you would help ;-)
[17:15] <LaserJock> cya
[17:53] <dIpEsH> d