jhutchins_wkIs hardy out yet?00:00
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu00:01
jhutchins_wkpedro: THat's what it means when it says #ubuntu+1 - hardy is supported there, for testing.00:01
jhutchins_wkNot here.00:01
jhutchins_wkGutsy is the latest supported here, as it's a production release.00:01
pedrothnks sorry to bother00:04
Daisuke_Laptopbrainstorm is certainly pointing out what matters the most00:04
Daisuke_Laptopalong with an incredibly painful jab at windows: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/235/00:05
mrunagiis it possible to see the contents of a locked folder on an OSX hard drive?00:05
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pedroi started amaro but i can't play mp3 music00:10
pedrowhat do i have to do00:10
tindoes amarok tell you what package you need to install when you try to play mp3?00:10
tini can't recall the package name of the top of my head00:11
BluesKajtin: libxine1-ffmpeg00:11
pedrono it just say if i want to install the package i say yes but then i have to rsatart the amrok when i try again it can't play again00:12
BluesKajtin, if you're on feisty or gutsy00:12
miladenwhen i put in my new external harddrive it says: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000... Why cant i do anything with it?00:12
tinBluesKaj: oh, i'm set, i was just trying to recall it for pedro00:12
Daisuke_Laptoppedro: go to #ubuntu+1.  this isn't help for hardy.00:13
tinpedro: make sure it got installed: use adept manager, or do 'aptitude search libxine1-ffmpeg'00:14
miladenno one knows?00:14
tinmiladen: uid 1000 would be the user you made at install, and for some reason you don't have permission to mount it00:15
miladentin im su...00:15
tinyou = uid 1000, it = the drive00:15
Daisuke_Laptoptin: this is a pretty big bug that's been plaguing users since gutsy's release00:15
Daisuke_Laptopit's not as simple as you make it sound (oh if only)00:15
miladentin can i do a sudo mount?00:16
tinmiladen: i dunno, try it00:16
miladentin is there such a command? :D00:17
tinDaisuke_Laptop says it's a bug, i dunno because my USB mass storages mounts fine00:17
tin'sudo mount' is two commands00:17
Daisuke_Laptoptin: it doesn't affect everyone, but that exact problem covers a pretty fair percentage of all problems around here, and i don't think the solution is known (or if it is, i always miss it)00:18
tinsudo makes you super user for a single command (if you have your password)00:18
tinthat is a big bug then, with thumb drives and external hard drives so inexpensive and easily available00:19
sd32is sudo a s effective as kdesu?00:19
mneptoksudo is for the shell. kdesu is for graphical apps.00:20
tinyou know, i HATE these dell/ms/hp keyboards with home/end/pgup/dp rearranged00:20
mneptokyou know what i hate?00:20
mneptokthe moon.00:20
sd32the moon????00:20
Daisuke_Laptopmneptok: it's cool, we00:20
tinyou probly won't call kdesu yourself. if you're at the CLI, you'd use sudo00:20
mneptokthurn that thing off! we're trying to sleep!00:20
Daisuke_Laptopmneptok: it's cool, we're bombing it soon00:21
tini was about to say how much i liked the flexibility of X's networking00:21
tinsince i'm at my dad's machine with Vista (the DVR is in this room too and i'm wathing carl sagan)00:21
mneptokbillyons and billyons00:21
tinbut konversation and konsole are upstairs on my kubuntu machine00:21
sd32the cheeze will just absorb the bombs00:22
tinbut I HATE this keyboard so much00:22
mneptokmmmm ... cheesebomb.00:22
Daisuke_Laptopsd32: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23371839/00:22
Daisuke_Laptopi wasn't kidding.00:22
* tin has an idea (also yay for USB)00:22
MartinCleaverhow come sshd is not installed and doesn't show in adept?00:22
anon32does KDE have a keyboard-controlled mouse?00:22
anon32I need a keypad cursor right now...00:23
anon32MartinCleaver: apt-get install openssh-server00:23
tekteenMartinCleaver: ssh or ssh-server00:23
mneptokDaisuke_Laptop: at least it's the lunar souythern pole so we don't disturb Moonsanta00:23
MartinCleaveropenssh-server is the same as sshd?00:23
mneptokMartinCleaver: openssh-server00:23
MartinCleaverok. thanks.00:23
tinstupid windows "installed drivers" for USB HID Keyboard00:23
Daisuke_Laptopmoonsanta lives at the lunar south pole.  and he has a goatee.00:24
tinexcept it already has a USB HID Keyboard attached00:24
tinbut at least i got my own keyboard now00:24
anon32anyone? I'm in serious need of this....00:24
tinanon32: go to system settings, mouse & keyboard area00:24
tinthere is a keypad cursor available00:25
anon32I need a way to turn it on without actually having a cursor00:25
tekteenanon32: alt+f1200:25
anon32alt+f12 doesn't do anything00:25
tekteenthen use the arrow keys00:25
tekteenit sucks. but it works00:26
anon32tekteen: it does work! yay00:26
anon32how do I click?00:26
mneptokpunch the monitor00:27
tekteenanon32: enter00:27
MartinCleaverok. So if this machine goes belly up again I'll have at least attempted to keep a connection to it00:27
anon32tekteen: thanks, it's genius00:27
tekteenanon32: np00:27
* Daisuke_Laptop sighs00:29
Daisuke_Laptopi really shouldn't do that00:29
vershow can i connect my ipod to rockbox...or open a .zip file and install it?00:29
anon32now to reboot after killing everything...00:30
Daisuke_Laptopvers: try asking in #rockbox00:30
m4fia117hi, when i try to install ubuntu on my laptop, it goes to loading partioner00:31
m4fia117and then stops00:31
tekteenm4fia117: is there an error?00:31
m4fia117tekteen: it just stops00:31
tekteenm4fia117: I do not know00:32
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m4fia117well, im going to install kubuntu on it00:32
m4fia117right now im testing kubuntu on a VM00:33
Arwennooo..... keyboard cursor doesn't work with compiz00:34
m4fia117your mouse doesnt work?00:35
tekteenm4fia117: alt+f2 does not work00:36
psilocydeis there anyone here famillure with my name?00:38
psilocydei was hoping i didnt have to rehash my problem00:38
psilocydere discribe that is00:38
psilocydewell im have issues with apt00:39
psilocydeit keeps breaking00:39
BluesKajoh sure we have idedtic memories here :)00:39
MartinCleaverhow come, adept wanted the install DVD yet is installing from the web?00:39
psilocydewell ive been here alot the past few days00:39
psilocydeany way00:40
tekteenMartinCleaver: did it get at least 1 package from the cd?00:41
MartinCleavernot sure00:41
tekteenMartinCleaver: thats prob why00:41
MartinCleavercan I tell from a log file?00:42
tekteenMartinCleaver: look at the output00:42
MartinCleaverin the GUI?00:42
mneptok!enter | psilocyde00:42
ubotupsilocyde: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:42
tekteenMartinCleaver: also you may want to take the DVD repo out of the sources list00:42
tekteenMartinCleaver: yes it the gui00:43
MartinCleavergui of adept has one line, downloading (18%); http:// ... /00:43
MartinCleaversays nothing there about the DVD00:43
MartinCleaverI'd expected file:// for the DVD00:43
Daisuke_LaptopMartinCleaver: the dvd is apparently still in your sources.list00:44
tekteenMartinCleaver: isn't there a button to show more information00:44
MartinCleaverah, there is in the GUI a edit software sources button00:45
* MartinCleaver was poking around in /etc00:45
tekteenMartinCleaver: /etc/apt/sources.list (or the gui)00:45
MartinCleaverone of the reasons I am running Kubuntu on the desktop in place of Centos is so they both run a debian variant00:46
MartinCleaverless to think about00:46
psilocydesorry, well apt keeps breaking. after a freash install i have been trying to do an update, every thing seems to download properly but halveway through installing those updates. adept manager crashes and i get the error like "adept manager was unable to finnish"00:47
tinMartinCleaver: just keep an eye on version skew between debian and ubuntu repos00:47
MartinCleaverfunny. only the cdrom is listed as enabled but it looks like it is downloading from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/00:47
MartinCleaverwhich respositories might I like in the Third Party list?00:48
tindebian stable is usually behind ubuntu, while debian testing is often ahead on popular packages00:48
MartinCleaverThis machine crashed when I first booted into kubuntu this evening.00:49
mneptokpsilocyde: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade00:49
MartinCleaverHow muight I diagnose what happened?00:49
MartinCleaverI looked in dmesg and /var/log/messages00:49
Daisuke_Laptopat one point, debian stable was years behind everything else.  it's gotten better though00:49
psilocydeok, ill post the error in a sec for that00:50
MartinCleaveronly thing weird was unregistered pardevice around the time of the crash00:50
MartinCleavermy screen blanked and I could not even ping the box00:50
psilocydei get E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.00:51
tindo it!00:51
tekteenpsilocyde: type it00:51
tekteenpsilocyde: with sudo00:51
Stofferis there any program that will go through a filesystem and find or remove any corrupted files?00:51
tinin a unix it's called fsck (File System ChecK)00:55
acee1235i cant seem to burn anything with k3b it fails when closing the disk just keeps churning away faster and slower indefinitely00:55
tinacee1235: try telling it not to close the disk, maybe your drive is weird00:56
tinmany portables and car players will play open discs00:56
BluesKajacee1235:  try formatting the disc , it sometimes helps witholder discs or one that have xposed to heat sources00:57
* BluesKaj vows to clean this KB00:58
acee1235they are new archiva grade dvds00:58
mneptokBluesKaj: god ida00:58
acee1235the program wont stop now....00:58
BluesKajdon't buy the combo dvds , the ones meant for stand alone dvd recorders and pcs...especially the Sonys , they are terrible01:00
acee1235the drive wont stop spinning i even force killed k3b01:00
psilocydewell i get "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" then i get a prompt back in the terminal01:00
Dracoanyone use Quanta? I've heard down to 3.3 supported CSS autocompletion, but I see no such feature in 3.5.601:00
acee1235looks like i get to use to good old screw driver approach to stop it01:01
psilocydedid a search for the defered processing thing and it looks like a known bug01:01
Dracoevery time you install libraries ldconfig has to run01:01
Draconot sure about deferred processing, do programs requiring the libraries work properly?01:01
psilocydewell i da know ill look01:02
Stofferanyone here use ktorrent?01:02
acee1235ok something is wrong with the driver or somthing it did a horrid job of writing to the disk i can see wave in the tracks01:03
acee1235is there a way to see if the driver is good these disks arent cheap01:04
Dracoyou mean the drive?01:04
acee1235no the drive is fine it burns great under windows01:05
Dracothat's going to be more expensive than a bunch of disks, though01:05
acee1235the disks are $4 each01:05
Dracowell, try with cheaper disks for test runs01:05
tinacee1235: it may be that the drive is weird, it just has windows drivers that know the weirdness01:06
acee1235i think we are past test runs it doesnt work01:06
tinalso, you simply CAN'T see how "good" a burn is by looking at the tracks01:06
acee1235are there any fixes or has windows trumped linux once again01:06
m4fiaanyone read that NASA uses REHL?01:07
Dracoyou can use $0.05 disks, or $4 disks, your choice01:07
acee1235Draco i dont think its the disk ive burned 12 different disks01:07
m4fiadid you check the md5's?01:07
tinwhat happens when you put the disks back in?01:07
m4fiai did that with a Ubuntu install, it usually the .iso image01:08
tindo they get mounted? or does the drive think they're still empty?01:08
acee1235the drive goes nuts or says its blank01:08
acee1235im not burning iso's01:08
Dracowell, you are at some point01:08
acee1235just normal data backup01:08
acee1235we arent getting anywere01:09
Dracodo you have another drive, at all?01:09
acee1235its a laptop and i dont have externer burners01:09
m4fiawell do you have a windows machine?01:10
acee1235its dual boot01:10
m4fiawell PowerISO can check for curruption01:10
acee1235can you wine that?01:11
m4fiaafter writing it checks01:11
tini'd zip up the files, send them to the windows partition and try a burn in windows01:11
tinjust make sure the drive didn't go weird between boots01:11
tinthe drive on my server just suddenly stopped working between boots01:12
tinalthough, it had been like a year between boots and the drive hadn't been used more than once in the past 5 or 6 years, hehe01:12
DracoLinux is not designed to handle bad hardware, also01:12
acee1235this has been a persistent problem and ive burned under window seval time and spaced beween linux failures im attempting to go to linux as primary operating system but keep finding that it and hardware dont get alonf01:12
acee1235define bad01:12
Dracohard disks with tons of bad sectors, etc01:13
Dracoone of my friends said it was linux that trashed my system. really the hard drive blew up01:14
acee1235we arent talking about hard disks and my hard disk is fine01:14
tindoes the drive need special drivers in windows? or does it use the built-in ones?01:14
tinie: did you need to reboot after installing the burning software01:14
acee1235it works without special drivers01:14
tinmaybe check the manufacturer's site01:15
acee1235i installed xp and it worked immediately after install no rebooting other than what the system does on its own01:15
Dracomy wireless card works without special drivers, and on windows boxes it installs no less than 3 background daemons01:15
tinthere' nothing "wrong" with linux, it's just trying to speak to the drive using known standards, and the drive may have quirks that only the windows drivers know about01:15
acee1235great so i have to build the system around the os01:16
DracoI've actually seen windows fail more when it comes to CD drives, regarding reading01:16
acee1235is there a list of compatible hardware with linux or is it shoot and miss01:17
DracoNo, you just need a burner from a reputable manufacturer01:17
tinacee1235: with many companies refusing to release specs and/or driver sources (possibly unable due ot NDAs), sometimes you do have to build around the OS if you want to be dedicated to free software01:17
tini personally have had no hardware imcompatibilities besides graphics and wifi drivers01:18
acee1235those are pretty substantial issues01:18
tini need the ATI binary driver and i need to grab the firmware off my wifi card01:19
tinit's easily do-able01:19
tinit just puts off alot of people simply because it has to be done01:19
Dracowifi stuff is heavily harassed by United States government, specifically the FCC01:19
tinwhere the ubiquity of windows means the drivers are already there01:19
tinDraco: in this instance it's just Broadcom being private about firmware, which can be pulled right off the card anyway01:20
tinit's just an extra step01:20
acee1235fine when i get money to buy a new laptop i may return to llinux for now its more of a headache than a benifit with current issues01:20
tinor you can use the ndis wrappers, which work fine anyway01:21
acee1235thank you good night01:21
tinacee, why don't you keep it installed, and use it for everything you can01:21
Dracotin: well, the one which has a regulatory daemon, which is binary, is the one I'm talking about and in my old HP (which has broken PS, mobo, and blown up HD)01:21
tinperhaps the next kernel update will have better support for your drive01:22
pedrohow i go to hady channel01:22
pedroi want to go there01:22
tintill then, ust use windows to do your backups01:22
rokohow i change the chanel01:22
tini still use windows to play games, but i'm in kubuntu for everything else (oh an IE web site testing in windows)01:22
acee1235tin because for the majority of things im doing is does not function and it makes no sense to me to use an os that is less efficet at meeting my needs which are right now to pay a mortgage01:23
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu01:23
tinmajority of stuff?01:24
sd13243shoutcast servers up again..yay01:25
acee1235i cannot back of files i cannot distribute cd/dvd's of material to clients cups does not support my printer so i cannot print my homework. the graphics card is incompatable and ive had people try to fix that for the last month offering them $1000 if they could get linux to work equally as well as my windows os for my needs. they failed.01:25
acee1235i get payed $125/hr so every hour i waste trying to hack it together im lossing possible consulting time01:27
Dracowhat sort of consulting work? or rather not say01:28
Sanneacee1235: better complain to the hardware companies that don't support linux.01:28
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tekteenhi Apple_Cat_01:30
acee1235im not trying to rant on linux i love what its trying to do i simply need something that works. as per consulting i cosult with the military and various government branches about autonomous vehicle design. i created an autonomous helicopter my sophmore year and it went from there01:30
tekteenacee1235: I am almost a sophmore (high school) :-)01:31
acee1235im in Texas Tech, im a junior age 1901:32
sd13243cannonical has professional support01:32
acee1235wonderful sand bowl01:32
DracoWell, choosing the software because of the hardware isn't always bad.01:32
pushaxwhat dir do I use for KTTS ?01:33
tinacee1235: works for doing what though? is kubuntu working for web browsing and email and word processing?01:33
tini would use it for that, and if you need windows for something, use that01:33
tinwhy are you trying linux anyway? windowsxp not working for something?01:34
acee1235yes but then i have to print the stuff i typed in the word processor along with CAD drawings burn it to 3 encrypted disks and send them off. how much of that can i currently do on this pc01:34
NickPrestaDoes anyone successfully run XFCE with Kubuntu? The last time I tried to install xfce (back in Dapper, I guess), I had various problems where XFCE would conflict with KDE. Should I just install xubuntu-desktop?01:36
acee1235im trying linux because i like the freedom of it being open source and because i got a bit of heat for being a SC EE dual major who had not used linux01:36
DracoIf you are a CS major and haven't used linux or other unixish, /then/ you should be ashamed01:37
acee1235its not necessary01:39
crimsun_Draco: that's a bit extreme01:39
acee1235most of what i do is in assembly or hard coded01:39
acee1235what do you do draco?01:40
Dracocrimsun_: I don't mean is a *nix user, just used it at one point01:40
Draco(excluding those who did assembly, or machine language, or something equally hard to master)01:41
Dracoacee1235: I'm in high school going for an internship in CA or TX01:42
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acee1235nice, good luck make contacts. my stomach is commanding me to remove myself from my cave and venture out for food so i must go01:44
DracoI've got a rather annoying algo class, not helped any by the fact we are using a pascal book for C++01:47
NickPrestaDraco, at least you get to learn about C++. My high school class was teaching VB 6.0 at the time on a couple K6's. :)01:49
NickPrestaAh, netsplit. I love thee.01:51
geggamwho sneezed ?01:52
BluesKajthe root_________ dude has to stop01:52
* Arwen renames "fglrx" to "Freezing openGL Reduction for X"01:56
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NickPrestaIn case you haven't seen it yet, #kubuntu, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/01:58
MartinCleaverreading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu - where do I get the list of sources to add ?01:59
tekteenMartinCleaver: which ones do you want?02:01
MartinCleaverWhat are my options?02:01
Jahromeocan anyone explain the diff between app-get remove and purge?02:01
tekteenJahromeo: purge gets rid of config files02:02
Jahromeoso it would get rid of the install files as well?02:02
Jahromeoremove just removes app, purge removes app + install files?02:02
Jahromeoor do I have that incorrect?02:02
PiciThats correct02:02
tekteenJahromeo: sudo apt-get --purge remove blah02:02
Jahromeothat would then purge + remove?02:02
Jahromeoso it would del the files downloaded for install and uninstall the app at the same time?02:03
MartinCleavermaking a network share my home directory - best done by editing fstab? Or is there a GUI way?02:03
tekteenJahromeo: yes02:03
tekteenJahromeo: remove removes the installed files02:03
Jahromeoit wouldnt del the option to dl those files again off my repo tho would it?02:03
tekteenpurge removes the config02:03
Jahromeothanks tekteen easy to remember it then02:04
Jahromeotaking off kiba dock02:04
tekteenit is a way to remove the config files as well as the program02:04
Jahromeoand trying awn02:04
Jahromeomight find the dependencies are similar tho would i not?02:04
Jahromeomy synaptic is broken check this out02:04
Jahromeokdesudo - command not found - when i enter in password for synaptic02:05
Jahromeostupid frontends always break02:05
tekteenMartinCleaver: that is not a good idea02:05
MartinCleaverusing a network share for home dir?02:05
MartinCleaverhmm. we used to do that 15 years ago02:06
MartinCleaverbut, what do you suggest?02:06
crimsun_Jahromeo: kdesu, or gksu02:06
tekteenyou should have some sort of encryption, authentication, ect02:06
MartinCleaverI do02:06
tekteennfs tab is the only way I know of02:07
MartinCleaverok. ta.02:07
tekteenfstab not nfs02:07
* MartinCleaver nods02:07
tekteenI have lost my mind02:07
MartinCleavertoo much nodding?02:07
Jahromeocrimsun_ kdesu?02:08
tekteenMartinCleaver: I personally use openvpn with nfs02:08
crimsun_Jahromeo: (meant kdesudo)02:09
MartinCleaverMy network disk is on my lan...02:09
tekteenMartinCleaver: ok02:09
geggamopenvpn with nfs ?02:09
tekteenMartinCleaver: the issue is that I have a wireless network02:10
tekteenI am therefor paranoid02:10
geggamu are silly02:10
tekteengeggam: yep02:10
crimsun_Jahromeo: in actuality, you should be able to use either as long as the 'kdesudo' package is installed.02:10
Jahromeosays no arguement supplied02:11
crimsun_what syntax are you using?02:11
tekteeninside my head: ... ... ... ... ... ...02:11
Jahromeohell i dont even know what it does my snaptic just is having hissies02:11
Jahromeohmmm i installed kiba-dock - now i dont want it but if i try remove the packages i installed it tries to remove half my other paps02:13
Jahromeowhat is avant window manager called in the repos?02:14
MartinCleavertekteen: as long as its encrypted I'd not fret too much02:17
tekteenMartinCleaver: I don't either02:18
ysome1hasLizhello all, Is there any way to run interactive cd's in kubuntu??02:19
tekteenysome1hasLiz: what do you mean?02:20
MartinCleaverso, is there a repository list somewhere?02:20
ysome1hasLizI have a language learning CD and kubuntu won't execute it02:20
MartinCleavere.g. I heard about a partner repository, for things like skype and vmware, but it's location eluding me02:21
Jahromeo! medibuntu02:21
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org02:21
Jahromeoalso doubt you will be able to get hold of vmare but something like virtualbox works just as well @ martincleaver02:21
MartinCleavervmware server is free to use02:22
ysome1hasLizI'm able to see the contents of the cd, but can't install it02:23
KiD_ChAoShow do my context menu (right-click menu) in kde?02:23
Apple_Cat_yeah go with virtualbox, It's open source02:28
MartinCleaverif I didn't have clients that use vmware, I would02:28
foibleswhats a good rss feed program?02:29
Arwenthere's akregator I suppose..02:29
Apple_Cat_google reader ?02:29
Admiral_Chicagofoibles: use aKregator...I like it the best02:29
KiD_ChAoSnow i'm going to ask you a bunch of questions and want you to answer them immediately02:29
KiD_ChAoSim a cop, err...investigating a case.... involving how one would edit 'right-click' context menus in kde02:31
FreckledPI'm seeing major slowdowns accessing gmail through firefox.  I've tried both the new and old interfaces and they both seem sluggish.  Anyone else seen these and/or know of a solution?02:35
rrboxwhen's kubuntu going to have KDE 3.5.9 avail for upgrade ?02:35
Dragnslcrrrbox- it already is02:36
boggystudioswhat is the file that Knetworkmanager looks at?02:37
foibleswhy does evolution keep freezing on me!02:37
foibleswhats a good alternative for kde02:37
Arwenrrbox, it's out. But you need to use an unofficial repository or move to Hardy.02:37
rrboxahhh that's why02:37
Dr_willisYou mean an alternative for Evolution?02:37
Arwenfoibles, um, kmail/kgroupware? *shrug*02:37
foiblesDr_willis, sure02:37
foiblessomething like outlook02:37
foibleswith mail/calender02:38
ArwenDr_willis, I think me means "a good alternative *to* Evolution for KDE"02:38
Dr_willisI dont use any. :)  i was just clarifying what you were asking.02:38
Dr_willisIt pays to be concise on irc.02:38
foiblesDr_willis, indeed02:38
rrboxkontact's way more loaded than evolution from my testing, and better at importing outlook data02:38
foiblesDr_willis, you don't use a desktop calender, mail reader?02:38
foiblesrrbox, does it have a calender?02:38
Dr_willisfoibles,  i dont use any of those.. Other then the desktop applet that shows a basic calander. :)02:39
rrboxkontact's got everything02:39
* Dr_willis is a luddite.02:39
Arwenis that a kind of mineral? o.O02:39
foiblesrrbox, whats the difference between kmail and kontact?02:39
nosrednaekimboggystudios» /etc/network/interfaces?02:39
rrboxkontact is the suite for all of them individual ones foibles02:39
Dr_willisLuddite - one that shuns mondern tech. :)02:39
nosrednaekimfoibles» kontact contains kmail, as well as notes, contact book,etc02:39
foiblesnosrednaekim, i see02:40
rrboxfoibles: and the "must" is kmymoney02:40
rrboxkontact is pretty much like outlook, but more02:40
boggystudiosnosrednaekim: yeah I think thats it, thanks02:40
foiblesrrbox, im dling, ill know in just a sec02:41
foiblesevolution is pretty nice, but it keeps freezing02:41
foiblesi suspect that gtk is the culprit02:41
rrboxfoibles: if ur importing easiest is cvs format, and save the template when you map the categories correctly02:41
foiblesrrbox, kontact is just what i wanted02:42
rrboxevolution is really nice, it just gives like two lines for notes in contacts02:42
foiblesrrbox, evolution has a nicer gui as well02:43
rrboxand for me i have lots of notes for each contact, so scrolling on two lines was a joke02:43
rrboxi just wish kontact was able to dial using skype then i'm be the bomb02:44
MartinCleaverI want a list of sources.list like http://www.apt-get.org/main/ but a lot more sane02:44
rrboxi'm / it02:44
MartinCleaveror like http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/RepositoriesMirrors but for gutsy02:44
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories02:45
Admiral_ChicagoMartinCleaver: those links may help02:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourceomatic? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:45
ubotusource-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.02:45
foiblescan i import email from thunderbird into kontact?02:47
nosrednaekimfoibles» I think so... but i'm not sure how02:47
rrboxfoibles: u might need to check what exporting options u have and check with kontact to see what it can accept02:48
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foiblesrrbox, nosrednaekim : i actually don't see anywhere where it says anything about importing or exporting in kontact02:50
rrboxboth under file menu02:51
foiblesrrbox, aha02:52
foiblesit was greyed out02:52
jokercan some one help me with mp3 wma support02:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:54
Dr_willisHmm.. ya mean wma AND mp3 support?02:54
Dr_willisor is teere some wma-mp3 that i am  confused about. :)02:54
ArwenMP3 sucks >_>02:54
Arwenand so does MP302:54
Arwenand so does WMA for that matter02:55
Dr_willispeople who say things suck.. suck...02:55
Arwenso... in other words... you suck? :)02:55
rrboxare there portable ogg players ?02:55
nosrednaekimArwen» and so does MP3?02:55
nosrednaekimrrbox» yes02:55
Dr_willisrrbox,  yes there are.02:55
Arwenrrbox, yes02:55
Dr_willisus 3 are all lieing... :) yea...02:55
Arwennosrednaekim, yes, it sucks twice as much as WMA so I put it down twice02:55
rrboxthought only mp3/wma/ipod ruled02:55
nosrednaekimnah..wma is worse02:55
* Arwen doesn't understand mp3-evangelizers02:56
Arwenit's way outdated02:56
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod02:56
mrjcleavermy server just spontaneously rebooted02:56
Dr_willisipod is just another media-overhyped mp3 player. :)02:56
=== mrjcleaver is now known as MartinCleaver
Arwenmrjcleaver, it had to reboot for Automatic Updates to be completed02:56
* Arwen ducks02:56
ArwenDr_willis, eh, it plays AAC too02:56
Dr_willisArwen,  so.. :)02:56
* MartinCleaver throws a duck at Arwen02:56
ArwenAAC is great :)02:56
Dr_willisits still a overhyped/priced fancy mp3 player.02:56
Arwenhmm, that could be argued too02:57
Dr_willis100% markup on the price. :)02:57
Dr_willisand apple has always been about marketing - But i imagine in 2 years.. cell phones will have killed off the mp3 player market02:57
* MartinCleaver installs the pending updates, juuust to be sure02:57
rrboxI hear the same thing from Vorbis listeners; 'I'm not buying a hardware portable music player unless it supports Ogg Vorbis.' It's nice to hear, but we can't do anything about it (we're not a hardware company)02:57
ArwenDr_willis, and here I just want a phone that makes phone calls :-\02:57
rrboxthought there was an ogg player02:58
Dr_willisArwen,  yep. I got one the other day.. $20 for a new cellphone.02:58
Arwenthere is02:58
Arwenyou can either use modified firmware or... there's one or two that do it natively02:58
ArwenDr_willis, in a few years those will have been phased out02:58
nosrednaekimrrbox» I think the irivers can play ogg02:59
Dr_willisin a few years.. who knows WHAT we will be using. :)02:59
Dr_willisI may be able to get a skype phone that replaces my cellphone.02:59
Arwennosrednaekim, including Speex/Theora/Writ/Tarkin/FLAC?02:59
Arwenactually, the OGG format collection is in need of a lossless video codec03:00
rrboxDr_willis: skype already replaced all my calling options03:00
Dr_willisrrbox,  it has here at home.. got a wireless phone that uses skype :)03:00
Dr_willisrrbox,  but that dont work on the road. yet03:00
rrboxi got the usb to rj11 adaptor for regular cordless phones at home03:00
foibleswhere does thunderbird save its messages by default03:01
rrboxmy pda uses skype over wifi on the road03:01
rrboxfoibles: probably under ".thunderbird" hidden in your username's folder03:02
foiblesrrbox, it isn't03:03
* MartinCleaver leaves his machine running and fully expects ubuntu to have crashed inexplainably overnight03:04
rrboxor try in konsole "locate thunderbird" i don't use it so not sure about it03:04
MartinCleaversee you peeps03:04
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MartinsGustyWaitif this ID logs off then the machine has gone south03:05
* MartinsGustyWait goes home.03:05
=== ssmith is now known as ssmith__
* mneptok shoves Lynoure 03:14
mneptok(waaaay too early, but ...)03:14
ArwenI wonder, does the default kernel take advantage of SSE instructions (this would presumably make it incompatible with really old CPUs)?03:15
nosrednaekimmneptok» how goes life?03:15
mneptoktoday? not so good.03:15
mneptoki feel like a pincushion03:15
mneptokgot vaccinated against a ton of crap today03:15
nosrednaekimmneptok» required by the Gov. or cause you needed to be?03:16
mneptoknosrednaekim: for travel03:16
nosrednaekimmneptok» ah.03:16
mneptokmy leg feels like a slab of meat. that's on fire.03:17
mneptokthanks, typhoid vaccine03:17
mneptokthe best is the receipt that reads (in French) "No refunds or returns."03:18
mneptoklike, how does would that work? like, mechanically?03:19
mneptok"i wish to return this inoculation."  "very well, sir, i shall fetch Dracula."03:19
* Daisuke_Laptop scratches his head03:20
Daisuke_LaptopArwen: to my knowledge, it does, but don't take MY word for it! </lavar burton>03:21
mneptokArwen: and yes, it does.03:22
Daisuke_Laptoplevar, my mistake :\03:22
mneptokArwen: the -generic kernels load those modules that are needed by features supported by the CPU03:22
Daisuke_Laptopah ha03:22
mneptok(so -generic will load Intel-specific mods for Intels, and AMD for AMD)03:22
Daisuke_Laptopan actual modular kernel, niiice03:23
nosrednaekimmneptok» oh is that what they are for? sweet. never knew that03:23
mneptokthis is why people should try to be overly smart and start installing -686 kernels. ;)03:23
mneptokmove your drive to a PIII and GAME OVER03:24
mneptok(P.S. if you get a "GAME OVER" sign on your computer, that's my quarter stacked. it's mine next. i prefer UPS.)03:24
Arwenmneptok, does it come with SSE4 optimizations? hehe03:25
NickPrestaWhat is the aptitude equivalent of `apt-get autoremove`?03:27
mneptokArwen: lsmod03:27
kaanhey guys03:27
mneptokArwen: or lsmod | grep SSE03:27
kaandoes anyone know how the connect command works?03:27
kaani installed the application03:28
kaanso just tryin to use the command...03:28
mneptokkaan: in what app?03:28
kaanin the terminal03:28
grulNickPresta, I think it's just "aptitude remove"03:28
mneptokkaan: et tu en Quebec?03:28
grulI'm not certain though03:28
kaanmsg mneptok no03:28
mneptokkaan: what app in the terminal? sounds like irssi.03:29
Arwenmneptok, no results with SSE in name03:29
kaani just tried the connect command and then it said use sudo apt get connect-proxy to use the command03:29
kaanthen i installed it using that command03:29
mneptokArwen: yeah, i think it's built in, and not used if the CPU doesn;t have SSE optimiztions03:29
kaannow im tryin to use the connect command and it sort of works but it doesnt actually connect..03:30
grulNickPresta, after some reading I'm sure enough to say that aptitude forces the removal of unused dependencies, while with apt-get you can choose if you want to do it03:30
kaanit doesn't even ask my username03:30
mneptokkaan: there is no command "connect"03:30
mneptokkaan: connect to what? with what protocol?03:30
kaani normally use that application or putty03:31
mneptokthen the command is "ssh"03:31
kaanto connect03:31
kaanhm ok03:31
mneptokssh user@host.name.or.ip.address03:31
mneptokeg ssh billg@unix.gateway.microsoft.com03:31
Daisuke_Laptopnice thing is that putty is one of the least worst clients03:31
kaanhow do i use the username with ssh03:33
Daisuke_Laptop...  he just told you how to do that03:33
Daisuke_Laptopssh username@host.or.ip.address03:33
Daisuke_Laptopwhere "username" is the user name03:34
kaanohhh gotcha03:34
kaansorry missread03:34
Daisuke_Laptopno worries03:34
kaanconnected thnx guys03:34
kaanone more question03:36
kaanoh nevermind got it03:36
kaanhm maybe not.... how can i open a txt file in the terminal which is located in the server i just connected to03:37
kaanor how can i copy files from the server i connected to using ssh to my local harddrive?03:38
kaansomeone pls...03:38
=== Freecast454450 is now known as iceman_
iceman_anybody know how to get zeroconf working....and know of any windows like skin/themes that i can use. or MAC like skins/themes that i can use?03:45
iceman_anybody know how to get zeroconf working....and know of any windows like skin/themes that i can use. or MAC like skins/themes that i can use?03:48
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:48
NickPresta!themes | iceman_03:49
ubotuiceman_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:49
kaanI figured it out people thanx anyways03:50
kaanapperantly konquerer can connect using the fish://username@server03:50
kaanuses the SSH protocol and has a graphical interface to drag and drop files.... neat03:50
iceman_Nickpresta i don't need you to sic a bot at me k. I was waiting an entire 5 minutes and in that time nobody said a word. thanks though i wouldve figurs it out that you were busy at some point...no it all03:52
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ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit04:01
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ssmith__does anyone know why I get the failure "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" when I do  a     ./configure for k3b 1.04?04:34
ArwenI used falcon to set up a local apt repository and it seems to work except that APT refuses to download source packages from it04:38
Arwenany ideas what I did wrong?04:38
gorbierdsuggest me please where information about system language(imean language pack) are stored?04:38
gorbierdI just want to change default language in my customized livecd04:39
icanhasadminsomeone please congratulate me04:42
=== ubuntu is now known as Nabiki
icanhasadmini'm officially on the "command line commands are quicker and more efficient than using a GUI" bandwagon.04:43
fignewyou can has no congratulate04:43
icanhasadminfignew: that's very witty of you04:44
fignewsorry :(04:44
icanhasadminfignew: you + ton = tasty :)04:44
NabikiI have a quick question.  I am installing kubuntu, and I am setting up partitions.   I have a 320 GM drive, but it seems to be showing it as a 64GB or so drive.  Any ideas?04:45
NabikiI noticed this as I was telling it to set up 1GB for swap, 1GB for /boot, and 40GB for /, and it was almost full.04:45
icanhasadmindefinately has a flavor04:45
fignewNabiki: has it worked under any other operating system?04:45
NabikiBrand new drive.04:45
icanhasadminis it a maxtor?04:45
fignewNabiki: is it an older system04:46
NabikiWD EIDE CAviar SE04:46
NabikiBrand new system.  AMD X2 4000+04:46
NabikiShould I try booting into windows, and hacking it up there? ;P04:47
icanhasadmintell me that's a joke04:47
NabikiI am actually gibing the Linux setup the larger of the two hard drives.  ^_^  I only bother with windows forgames.  For anything requiring actual productivity, I have been using Linux for quite a while.04:48
NabikiI downloadedthe ISO for the 64 Bit version of Kubuntu.04:49
jumpkickIs there any way to make automounting just consistently work in Kubuntu/KDE?04:49
jumpkickit's really frustrating that it only seems to detect and mount media about 1/3rd of the time04:49
icanhasadminjumpkick: is there anyway to make automounting not consistently work in kubuntu?04:49
Nabikijumpkick: Are the items in your fstab?04:49
icanhasadmini'm sorry, i'm obviously not being useful. goodnight all04:50
jumpkickicanhasadmin:  attach a removable hard drive04:50
jumpkickNabiki: nope, thought the point was plug in a USB device and the mounter figures it out04:51
NabikiI see.04:51
Nabikijumpkick: I can't help much.  ;/  I haven't had that problem yet.04:52
* Nabiki was thinking other issue.04:52
jumpkickthanks anyway04:52
jumpkickI boot up and sometimes I get a "Media" icon like a USB key, I click and it mounts the drive as my user...04:52
NabikiAs long as all the sbus and hal  stuff installs correctly, it SHOULD just work.04:52
jumpkickother times I get the icon, I click on it but it doesn't mount, but if I click "open folder as root" it mounts04:53
jumpkickbut the device path is all different04:53
jumpkicksometimes I get no icons at all if I go into the Media folder, not even the internal hard drive which is always supposed to be there04:53
NabikiI am going to reboot and see if vista sees my new drive.  ^^;;  Then I will find a tool to format itwtih.04:53
jumpkickNabiki: good luck04:54
Apple_Cat_same usb port ?04:54
jumpkickApple_Cat_: yes... the drive is a permanently attached, permanently powered external USB drive04:56
jumpkicksame thing happens for samba share browser too04:56
Apple_Cat_hrm ...?04:56
Apple_Cat_everything is ok in your bios ?04:57
Apple_Cat_...not that it would make much difference, hmmm04:57
jumpkickApple_Cat_:  yup everything is fine04:57
jumpkickI can see the drive in the dmesg04:58
jumpkickduring start up04:58
Apple_Cat_is the drive new ?04:58
jumpkicksometimes the order the USB bus detects it in changes...04:58
jumpkicksometimes its detected as sdbc1, sometimes sdb104:58
jumpkickbut it doesn't matter04:59
jumpkickthe mounter should at least see the drive04:59
jumpkickI can mount it manually04:59
jumpkickit's a super PITA04:59
jumpkickthe drive is a 750GB drive, it's less then a year old, but not exactly new04:59
jumpkicksame happens for USB sticks though05:00
Apple_Cat_I'm assuming you have asked google but didn't find anything ?05:00
jumpkickI have asked the google, the google tells me that Kubuntu shipped with some very strange DVD automounting bug05:01
jumpkickI'm not sure that it is the same05:01
Apple_Cat_so sometimes it automounts sometimes it doesn't, rather than it always doesn't automount05:03
Apple_Cat_(with some poor grammar thrown in for good measure )05:04
NabikiOk....  Fdisk saw everything.  I am not sure what kind of crack the installer is on.  ;P  hehehe05:04
jumpkickApple_Cat_: yes...  the behaviour is erratic05:06
Apple_Cat_sorry, i g2g for a bit, just hang around here and I'm sure someone will know what's wrong05:07
jumpkickthanks Apple_Cat05:08
jumpkickI may just file a launchpad bug or post to the forum05:08
NabikiIs 1GB too big for Swap?05:08
jumpkickNabiki: I have 1GB for swap05:09
jumpkick4GB ram05:09
jumpkickit never gets used05:09
jumpkickLinux kernel is awesome05:09
Apple_Cat_that it is :)05:09
jumpkickhtop is really nice05:10
jumpkickI like it a lot05:10
NabikiI am running 32 bit vista, so clost to half my ram is ignored.  3  1GB strips, and a 2GB strip.  The 2GB strip takes it over 4 GB, so the rest is ignored.05:10
NabikiIt reads as 3 gigs05:11
jumpkickyeah, windows is not so good for that...05:11
NabikiUnder Linux though, it will read it all. hehe.05:11
NabikiWell, if you run 32bit linux, you can possibly have the same issue.05:11
jumpkickwe had Win2k servers at my work you could do some giggering to get it to use 3GB for application and 1GB for OS05:11
jumpkickit was not the greatest05:11
jumpkickI think 32-bit linux can do 4+GB if you turn on the right addressing param in the kernel05:12
jumpkickprobably take a bit a performance hit for it though05:13
NabikiThe thing is, you have to turn on 64 bit addressing.05:13
jumpkick32-bit limit for addressable space is 4GB (that's how many addresses you can have in 32-bit unsigned integer)05:13
jumpkickyeah, the kernel has to use "long"s to address over 4GB05:14
jumpkickunless you are running a 64-bit CPU which can treat an int as a 64-bit unsigned int I believe05:14
jumpkickso no performance hit05:14
jumpkickat least on mem addressing05:15
NabikiI think that is the main difference between 32 bit and 64 bit inthe kernel.  The big performance hit would come from running everything 32 bit with a 64 bit kernel.  ;P  But fromwhat I hear the hit is not so bad as to be noticed on most home machines.05:15
NabikiI am running a 64 bit processer so I will runthe 64 bit kernel for now.05:16
jumpkickI don't think there's a big hit for running 32-bit on 64-bit05:16
* Nabiki will have to learn how to set up a dual lib environment for programming stuff too.05:16
jumpkickmind you my 64-bit cpu is so fast05:17
jumpkickyou can just use VMWare server and set it to 32-bit guest for testing05:17
NabikiI just hope my system will actually get use out of a dual core.  Though, I payed less than a 100$ for it.  ;P05:17
jumpkickDual core is useful05:17
NabikiI am thinking more for compiling.  :-)05:17
jumpkickSMP -> much less slowdown when things get hectic05:18
jumpkickmake -j 205:18
jumpkickbut some things can not be built using make with parallel jobs05:18
NabikiI mean as far as compiling 32 bit apps under 64 bit os.05:18
jumpkickyeah, for that I would use a chroot with all i386 libs or a VM05:19
NabikiFirst thing I need to do is update my video drivers.  O.o;;  The fonts look ugly under the live CD. hehe ;P05:19
Nabikithe live CD is convenient. and with more ram, it is easier to use. :)05:20
NabikiO.o  The last system I built had 1GB of ram.  Things did not run smooth while I was installing. hehe05:20
NabikiI do however approve of the minimalistic approach the current live CD has to what it has "installed" on the CD.  Makes things run a lot more smoothly than if they try to load everything.05:22
Arwen☭yay for weird unicode characters☭05:23
NabikiHmmm...  I hope it installed the boot loader propperly.  ;P  It didn't ask me ANY questions about it. hehe05:28
* Nabiki will findout soon... Off to reboot!05:28
Arwenhey cool, closing the GIMP with compiz-fusion running looks sweet (3 windows dying at the same time)05:32
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Nataliaoi alguem sabe como entro em outro canal????05:53
b0uncyfr0hey ppl05:58
b0uncyfr0wats going on05:58
b0uncyfr0do we have any ladies in the house?06:01
surgy!offtopic | b0uncyfr006:01
ubotub0uncyfr0: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:01
surgysorry i had to06:01
b0uncyfr0i understand06:01
mrunagiwhat is most exciting about hardy?/06:10
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dan__whats with all the excitement?06:38
Arwenmrunagi, not a whole lot06:40
ArwenI couldn't tell you it apart from Gutsy if you asked me to06:40
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psilocydei get a verry low sound volume on my lap top07:23
psilocydecan i get some help with that?07:24
psilocydeit has  an intell-hda soun07:24
psilocydesound chip07:25
psilocydealsa mixer master is 0007:25
jussi01!intelhda | psilocyde07:52
ubotupsilocyde: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto07:52
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »08:10
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rowhow easy is it to get my current kubuntu box to host a kubuntu net boot image?08:26
rowmy old laptop seems to be having issues with the kubuntu gutsy image I downloaded says issue with i/o on dvd yet the hardy kde4 alpha installed fine just wondering if worth network booting.08:27
matt_Do you use Kubuntu KDE?08:29
Lynourematt_: Anything you need help with?08:29
Lynourematt_: pretty much everyone here does...08:29
matt_Nahh Logging of08:29
BanTamhi Lynoure how are you tonight?08:29
LynoureBanTam: Morning here. Hopefully more productive day today :)08:30
BanTamit is morning isnt it? lol time ran away on me08:30
Lynoure10:30 in Finland :)08:30
BanTam3:30 USA08:31
BanTambig difference08:31
ere4si6.30 pm in aus08:33
ere4si*tralia :)08:33
LynoureThe irc is round! :)08:33
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strog_anybody online here?08:36
Lynourenick_: hmph08:36
strog_i have newly installed kubuntu with no problems at all08:37
Lynourestrog_: Congrats :)08:37
nick_kubuntu is fun08:37
strog_but when i insert the usb cable of my digicam i get the autorun window displayed endlessly long08:37
nick_sorry for being rude earlier08:38
strog_but when i use the rear usb connectors it works fine08:38
Lynourestrog_: by autorun window you mean the window that asks you what to do about it?08:38
nick_i didn't know you were a noob08:38
nick_so sorry noob08:38
strog_well i know the basics08:38
strog_not thaaat noob08:38
nick_then use the rear connector08:38
nick_it might be a temporary bug08:38
ubotuAcronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.08:38
Lynourenick_: better than being some other things, I must say.08:38
strog_the front usb pannel works fine with usb sticks08:39
nick_is being a noob better than being 1337?08:39
strog_where can i report that bug?08:39
nick_most front usb are slower anyway08:39
nick_i think it is a motherboard thing08:39
jussi01!bug | strog_08:40
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Lynourestrog_: Which camera is it, by the way? Almost all cameras nowadays work fine with Linux, but there are still some non-standard exceptions.08:42
strog_i have a powershot A4008:43
nick_is it good?08:43
strog_but i would tip on the motherboard cause this is a new computer08:43
strog_it is an old model from canon08:43
strog_but decent08:43
nick_i want one tbh08:43
jussi01the a40 works fine iirc08:43
nick_my kodak does not do good video08:43
nick_only 22 fps max08:44
nick_10 fps for 640 x 48008:44
Lynourestrog_: you said the autorun window stays forever, but I'm still not sure what you mean by the autorun window. The one that asks you what to do with the newly found device? If so, can you still browse the contents?08:45
strog_no, when i insert my digicam i get an autostart window popup then another one and another etc.08:46
strog_and when i unplug the cam it stops08:47
Lynourestrog_: But you do mean the window I described?08:47
strog_if u want to open it in a new window or download the pictures etc08:48
Lynourestrog_: It would be interesting to see if your  dmesg  says anything interesting about the device while this is happening.  (pastebin is the good destination for that)08:48
strog_give me the link08:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:49
strog_i will08:49
Anashi i use kmess messenger but  i cannt see any yahoo contacts i see just hotmail contacts is there anyway to see yahoo contacts on kmes or if htere any other messenger allow me to seee both yahoo and hotmail contacts i dont want to make yahoo accounts08:50
Lynourestrog_: but, like nick_ said, trying with a different usb port is also worth doing, as it's a simple quick change to try.08:50
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strog_here is the link08:51
Lynourestrog_: unless you have been disconnecting and reconnecting it a lot, it is doing it itself08:55
strog_it is doing it all by itself08:55
Lynourestrog_: then do try with another usb port. And if that does not help, with a different usb cable perhaps. The cable might be subtly faulty.08:56
strog_i have another kubuntu machine and i connect my digicam with the same cable and it doesnt do any problems08:57
strog_when i use the rear usb port it works on this new machine normally08:57
Lynourestrog_: then could be something subtly wrong with that particular usb port in the new machine. usb sticks might take less power than your cam.08:58
strog_could be, but then it would do the same problems on the old kubuntu machine08:59
Lynourestrog_: no... I meant with the port on the new machine08:59
strog_yeah but the rear ports have the same powersupply as the front09:00
strog_i would tip that it is that the motherboard is a new one09:00
strog_and that the bug for was never found until this day09:00
Lynourestrog_: I'm not understanding how that would rule out a problem in the usb bus/cable/port in question, but oh well :)09:01
LynoureDoes not look like a software bug in any case, and I'm not one to try remote hardware troubleshooting deeper than this :)09:02
storbeckmeh, ubuntu-desktop sure does take a long time to install.09:02
strog_nevermind i wrote a bug report to ubuntu now and now you have a noob less that would get on your nerves ;) thanks for the good support09:02
strog_c ya09:02
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kaminixIs it just me or is the Kaffeine package broken?09:27
storbeckInstalls fine for me.09:28
kaminixFor me it removes the kaffeine-xine package. Have you run aptitude update?09:29
jussi01kaminix: yeah, did that for me too, but still works fine09:30
jussi01hello jono09:30
kaminixHmm... think I had problems playing vob with that. I'll try removing it and stuff. 2s09:30
jonohey jussi0109:31
storbeckYep, ran update, removed and reinstalled.09:31
storbeckAll works fine.09:31
user_____whats up09:32
kaminixHm... works now.09:35
kaminixAnyway, what does this in the changelog mean?09:35
kaminix  * Automated backport upload; no source changes.09:35
jussi01kaminix: means that a program designed to backport uploaded it, (its the version from hardy)09:35
kaminixAh, thanks.09:36
kaminixSo kaffeine-xine is removed in Hardy?09:36
noaXessi'm searching a diff/merge tool with the following option: merge only lines that i want, edit while merging,.. i tried kdiff3, kompare.. but non of this two can that.. any hint?09:41
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jussi01!away > Signil09:51
jussi01!info meld | noaXess09:53
ubotunoaxess: meld (source: meld): graphical tool to diff and merge files. In component universe, is optional. Version (gutsy), package size 619 kB, installed size 2140 kB09:53
stdinnever underestimate the power of logs! :p09:53
storbeckWhat did he do?09:54
noaXessjussi01: okay... thanks09:54
noaXessjussi01: are there some screenshots?09:54
stdinStoffer: used public away messages 4 times, after being warned not to each time09:55
jussi01Im not sure, but my colleaues say its the best...09:55
noaXessjussi01: than i will try..09:55
noaXessjussi01: is there no problem with kde, cause the will be some phyton-gnome parts installed09:55
noaXessjussi01: found it.. http://meld.sourceforge.net09:55
jussi01noaXess: except you have extra libs, no09:55
storbeckMy goodness, my ubuntu-desktop has been installing for an hour now O_O09:57
noaXessjussi01: wow it looks nice :)09:57
ubuntuhi it's my first time here10:00
ere4si!hi | ubuntu10:06
ubotuubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:06
noaXessjussi01: meld is great.. that what i'm searching for :) thanks10:09
jussi01noaXess: great :)10:11
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ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:15
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ubotupascalt: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl10:31
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jpatrick!it | cri10:45
ubotucri: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:45
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amerigo_I have a question... and i don't know if this is the right place to ask this... however...12:06
amerigo_i'm looking for a "pc suite" software or similar, for sony ericsson mobile12:07
amerigo_i need a software to connect my kubuntu using my mobile12:07
amerigo_somebody has an idea?12:08
ubotuGuides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/12:08
jussi01!info kmobiletools12:08
ubotukmobiletools (source: kmobiletools): KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version (gutsy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB12:08
jussi01amerigo_: ^12:08
amerigo_ubotu : thanks12:08
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)12:08
sausage_/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-desktop/build: No such file or directory12:09
sausage_i keep getting that error when i attempt to make12:09
jussi01sausage_: make what?12:10
sausage_i got a source12:10
sausage_just trying to make in term12:10
jussi01can you point me to where you got it?12:11
sausage_im trying to use my 360 usb controller for emulators12:12
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sausage_make modules -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-desktop/build SUBDIRS=/home/sausage/xpad360/xpad36012:17
sausage_make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-desktop/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.12:17
sausage_make: *** [all] Error 212:17
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heathhello all... I'm having problems upgrading to a new kernel... can anyone help?12:27
intelikeyheath maybe.12:27
heathI am just trying to run apt-get upgrade, and the install hangs on running grub12:28
intelikeysudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:28
amerigo_I've seen this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/ but it's refered only to tranfer file...12:28
amerigo_i need something to use sony ericsson k608i like a modem...12:29
intelikeyheath if that doesn't get it, let me know.12:29
amerigo_an obex tool i image12:30
heathyeah... the problem is I have a SATA card with mirrored drives and had to follow the fake raid how to to set up the system12:30
heathnow I think grub can't figure out where my drives are... and I don't know how to install the kernel so I can do grub manually12:31
jussi01amerigo_: I think you can do that with kppp but im not certain12:31
amerigo_thank you again jussi12:32
intelikeyheath umm edit /boot/grub/menu.lst by hand and add the new kernel+initramfs pair       sudo mv /usr/sbin/update-grub . && sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/update-grub && sudo dpkg --configure -a12:33
intelikeyit's a work around for your particular issue.  not at all a fix.        you can later move the script "~/update-grub" back into /usr/sbin  if you want to.12:35
intelikeyheath the replacing process goes thusly.   sudo rm /usr/sbin/update-grub && sudo mv ~/update-grub /usr/sbin12:36
intelikeyjust mentioned so you don't inadvertantly overwrite /bin/true12:36
intelikeywhich would be commical on some systems.   every time "true" was called it would update the menu.list  :)))12:37
intelikeyalthough very anoying on others.12:38
heathwow that's a lot to take in...12:38
Sbucatoneheya well my problem is this : i have installed open movie editor form repository but i have not effects so i know i must install a damned plug in :D but i can't get it12:40
Sbucatoneanyone knows how to build that plug in12:40
intelikeyheath also of note.  i think that the initramfs for the kernel is generated in the update-grub script.   so if the new one doesn't exist yet or is empty then#  sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-<the version you are working on> <the version you are working on>      <only if you need to manually generate a new one.12:40
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heathso basically I am moving update-grub so it will not run... linking true in update grubs place and what's the deconfigure going to do?12:41
intelikeyheath the "<the version you are working on>" for the vmlinuz-<the version you are working on> and initramfs.img-<the version you are working on> must match the one you add to menu.lst12:42
heathif I just add those... do I need to do the firest thing you told me to do?12:42
intelikeyheath in answer to your Q ^   it will finish setting up all updated packages that might have stalled because of the issue you faced12:42
heathfirst **12:42
intelikeyheath yes12:43
intelikeyif you don't let dpkg (or in this case "trick it into") finish setting up all packages then every time you "mess" with any package manager you will have the same problem12:44
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intelikeystep 1.) sudo mv /usr/sbin/update-grub . && sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/update-grub && sudo dpkg --configure -a  #<<< finishes installing/setting up all packages "we hope"     step 2.) sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   #<<< which i actually mentioned first. and should be accompanied with something like (ls -l /boot)   is the point where you manually add the new kernel and initramfs.img pair in a listing in the menu list for g12:48
intelikey# <<< which is only ran if needed as per discovered in the "ls -l /boot" command   makes a new initramfs image      step 4.) sudo rm /usr/sbin/update-grub && sudo mv ~/update-grub /usr/sbin  # <<<simply puts things back to factory (sorta)12:50
heaththanks a ton for the help... I will give that a shot.12:51
intelikeythere you have the whole thing in two posts     ^   copy and paste it some place safe.12:51
intelikeyheath note*   replace all  <strings>12:51
heathwill do12:52
intelikeyi use  <blah>   to indicate you need to enter the correct information yourself12:52
heathif you turn on the news and Virgina has lost all power know it was me12:52
pramodWell there is a small thing that need to be changed about the flash plugin...12:53
intelikeyif you can hack the electric gird with a bogus grub string or faulty initramfs    then they need the lights turned off just to wake them up12:54
pramodwhen i try to install superkaramba it goes to the site of "http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" which no longer exists it seems...12:54
pramodanyone can help aboute how will i be able to install my superkaramba please???12:55
MartinCleaverIs there a dedicated channel for 64 bit users?12:55
pramodlol this is for all kubuntu users... :P12:56
intelikey!info superkaramba12:56
ubotusuperkaramba (source: kdeutils): a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB12:56
intelikeyenable universe and install12:56
jussi01!flash64 | pramod12:56
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories12:56
ubotupramod: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava12:56
pramodok thanx12:57
pramodgonna try that12:57
pramodwhen i try to install super karamba it downloads flashplugin-nonfree from a site which no longer works... :(13:01
intelikeybah   why would this happen ?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d59ecfe8213:05
ahmoshi, when i leave my computer turned on and don't use it for about 1-2 houres .it hangs on..is that an os problem?13:07
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intelikeyahmos basicly speaking    yes    that is to say that the operating system is where that is most likely "bugged"   i.e. amp acpi     that does not mean that it's origen is not, or that it can not be corrected; in a "user land" application.13:10
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intelikeyor more aptly put.   it's more likely KDE that is causing it than the kernel13:13
intelikeyand i might be so bold as to specify kubuntu's default setup of KDE13:13
intelikeyahmos now what version of ubuntu and what version of KDE are you using ?13:14
ahmoskubuntu 7.1013:14
ahmosand kde 3 as i think13:15
andrew_wow hardy is GREAT13:17
ahmosyes kde 3.5.813:17
intelikeyahmos well if there are bugs related to that they should be on launchpad13:19
intelikeyif there is a known issue and solution/work-around it should be in the forums13:20
intelikeyor the wiki possably13:20
ahmosok thank you intelikey for your time ;)13:21
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BhaalHey guys, someone get the bot to post me the link to the compiz howto again please?13:31
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ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion13:44
intelikeyooops "just missed him"13:45
BhaalWhats the best way to get compiz running for kubuntu?13:45
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion13:46
intelikeyidk.  never tried.13:46
BhaalThank you13:46
BhaalThats what I was looking for :)13:46
intelikeyyeah i posted it between your exit and re-entry    with an  ooops statement13:47
intelikeywhere are the apt policies stored ?13:56
intelikeyi'd like to change this  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d59ecfe8213:57
intelikeyand if a priority of 500 is causing that.  i'll fix it.13:57
intelikeythat's just an area of apt that i have heretofore not delved into13:58
intelikeydelved not into?          gramatic question13:59
* intelikey stops talking to self now.13:59
intelikeynick Agent_bob14:04
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DarthWar|Yweird.. http://google.com/trends?q=%28open+suse%7Copensuse%29%2Cubuntu&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=014:13
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vltHello. I installed network-manager-openvpn. When I connect to an OpenVPN server using KNetworkManager instead of conf files my default route is set to the tun device. Why? How to avoid this?14:31
gerard need help14:31
vlt!ask | gerard14:31
ubotugerard: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)14:31
gerardinstalling a network printer14:32
Dr_willisis it ok if i ask abou asking to ask questions?14:32
vltgerard: That's a difficult question.14:32
gerardok can u help14:33
vltgerard: What exactly is the problem?14:33
Dr_willisWhats the specific issue? ive installed my network printers rather easially14:34
ahmoshi, i need a powerful download manager program14:34
Dr_willis!find wget14:34
ubotuFound: wget, epiphany-extension-gwget, gwget, wget-el14:34
Dr_willis!info gwget14:34
ubotugwget (source: gwget2): GNOME front-end for wget. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 230 kB, installed size 1292 kB14:34
Dr_willisNo kde front end to wget! egads. :)14:34
gerardcan't see print server14:34
josephDr_willis: why don't you develop one, eh?14:35
Dr_willisjoseph,  i rarely need a download manager.14:35
josephDr_willis: it would be nice, though.14:35
Dr_willisgo for it. :)14:35
josephif i could "code" more than configuring my irc client, i certainly would14:35
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu14:36
ubotuIntrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex14:36
pedrodoes someone have the valve steam installed on kubuntu14:37
Dr_willispedro,  ive heard it works.. but i dont mess with it.14:37
Dr_willisthe wine forums proberly discuss it in detail14:37
ubotuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org14:37
vjsprcconf and sysv-rc-conf aren't showing all the /etc/init.d/ scripts, even when run by root.. why is that ?14:42
pedroi have an error on my wine14:50
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ere4sipedro: the good folks at #winehq might be best at helping14:52
* Dr_willis agrees14:54
croconileno ops here :@15:06
ubotuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore15:07
nosrednaekimoh yeah.... there are opps I think...15:07
ubotupong is an old atari game. It's fun!15:07
croconileI wanna cancel my kubuntu-shipit order15:07
croconiledoes anybody knows how ?15:08
nosrednaekimgreat article here http://webserver.computoredge.com/online.mvc?zone=SD&session=4bbc82356eb89f89cea2cf170e093e4a15:08
croconile1 CDs requested on 2008-02-20. 1 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2008-02-26. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.15:08
nosrednaekimcroconile» why do you want to cancel?its free...15:08
croconileI don't want it15:09
croconileit's better to leave it for someone who acctually needs it15:09
nosrednaekimcroconile» then throw it out.....  its probably a bit late for that15:09
OakboxHi all, I just installed kde 4 along side my normal version, and now some of my application have changed style colours!  I cant seem to change it back..  has anyone got any ideas?15:10
nosrednaekimcroconile» really, they are quite cheap....give it away to someone and the effect will be the same15:10
nosrednaekimOakbox» what apps15:10
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde415:10
nosrednaekimOakbox» any QT4 apps will change their style15:11
Oakboxnosrednaekim: skype and Texmaker15:11
nosrednaekim!info texmaker15:11
ubotutexmaker (source: texmaker): A Cross-Platform LaTeX Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1401 kB, installed size 2940 kB15:11
Oakboxnosrednaekim: thanks do you know how  i change back the QT4 style?15:12
nosrednaekimOakbox» yeah.. those are both QT4 apps.15:12
nosrednaekimOakbox» you don't like the Oxygen look?15:12
nosrednaekimOakbox» you can log into kde4, run its system settings, and change the style to something different15:13
Oakboxi tried that and it didnt work (im still using KDE 3.x) just wanted to see what KDE4 was like15:13
nosrednaekimOakbox» that didn't work? what did you change the theme too?15:14
nosrednaekimclearlooks should have been close enough15:14
Oakboxnosrednaekim: erm tbh i can remember i think its was default colour scheme, all the colours changed in kde4 but not in kde 3.x15:15
nosrednaekimOakbox» oh... your problem is with the colors?15:15
Oakboxnosrednaekim: yeah sorry though i said :S15:16
nosrednaekimOakbox» ah.. you did.....my bad.15:16
Oakboxnosrednaekim: the dark colours are no good for me writing in my tex app i cant see anything properly :)15:16
Oakboxnosrednaekim: thats ok :)15:17
Oakboxi tried to purge kde4 and that didnt work either15:18
nosrednaekimOakbox» right.... you changed it to a lighter scheme in kde4, and it changed their look within KDE4..... but when you logged into kde3 again, the colors were dark again. Thats the problem?15:18
Oakboxnosrednaekim: yes thats correct15:18
nosrednaekimOakbox» let me find the qt4 style rc file.15:19
Oakboxnosrednaekim: thank you so much for you help :)15:19
nosrednaekimhmm,can't find one. try erasing your ~/.kde415:20
Oakboxnosrednaekim: i tried that, but when i run texmaker it creates it again.... :(15:21
nosrednaekimOakbox» it creates .kde4? wow.How did you uninstall kde4? exact command please.15:21
Oakboxerm sudo apt-get purge kde4-core15:22
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Tm_T!away > TimS15:22
Tm_TTimS: thanks ;)15:22
OakboxDoh nosrednaekim has left i dont suppose anyone else coul help me with changing QT4 colours, kde4 changed them!15:30
jussi01Oakbox: try in #kubuntu-kde4 :)15:31
Oakboxjussi01: thanks :)15:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:31
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs15:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:32
Vermuxwhat the difference between xine and mplayer?15:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:34
jussi01!info xine15:34
ubotuPackage xine does not exist in gutsy15:34
jussi01hmm, xine is a backend iirc15:34
blackflag-at-worhello all :)15:34
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:34
blackflag-at-worhow can I download a directory via sftp?15:34
blackflag-at-worcan someone help?15:34
Vermuxwhich package should I download? xine-ui?15:34
jussi01blackflag-at-wor: sftp:/address in konq15:35
blackflag-at-worI want to do this under console15:35
jussi01Vermux: it would help for you to tell us what you are trying to do?15:35
ubotuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/15:36
blackflag-at-worahh, is that not possible with sftp?15:37
jussi01blackflag-at-wor: I thin there will be a directory option for scp15:37
blackflag-at-woryes, I was looking for this but can not find a hint15:37
Oakboxblackflag-at-wor: i think you can use -r on a dir :)15:37
Vermuxjussi01: Im trying to watch the video in http://www.nrg.co.il/online/10/ART1/503/329.html15:38
Oakboxblackflag-at-wor: scp -r bob@remote:/dir ./ as an example15:38
blackflag-at-worhmm, when I do get -r I get invalid command15:38
Vermuxjussi01: it doesnt work15:39
Vermuxjussi01: vlc doesnt play it15:39
Vermuxjussi01: Im using firefox15:39
jussi01!enter | Vermux15:39
ubotuVermux: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:39
Vermuxjussi01: since cuplayer cannot be used under Linux, I installed the followingL http://userstyles.org/styles/220815:40
Oakboxblackflag-at-wor: or scp bob@remote:/dir/* ./       i know something like that works...15:41
nosrednaekimOakbox» sorry, I had to go... did you fix it?15:41
Oakboxnosrednaekim: no i havent :( no one else seems to have an answer for me15:42
nosrednaekimOakbox» how did you remove kde4? you probably didn't remove everything.15:42
Oakboxnosrednaekim: i did: sudo apt-get purge ked4-core15:42
Oakboxnosrednaekim: thats all i did to install it....15:43
blackflag-at-worahh cool that works, thanks!15:43
Oakboxblackflag-at-wor: np :)15:43
nosrednaekimOakbox» ok, now you need to do "sudo apt-get autoremove"15:43
blackflag-at-worIm wondering how to to this with sftp, is there a way?15:43
Oakboxnosrednaekim: aah ok i will give it a go15:44
nosrednaekimblackflag-at-wor» to do what? sorry, I got here a bit late15:44
nosrednaekimOakbox» kde4-core is simply a metapackage15:45
blackflag-at-wordownload a directory with sftp15:45
nosrednaekimso removing it does almost nothing15:45
blackflag-at-worI was only able to download a file but not a directory15:46
jussi01blackflag-at-wor: man sftp ;)15:46
blackflag-at-worhmm i was looking at man, I will look again!!15:46
Oakboxnosrednaekim: aah good to know, though you will not like my results :) it still has the dark colours and the .kde4 dir still comes back when i run texmaker once i have deleted it.... :(15:47
blackflag-at-worthanks for help!!!15:47
nosrednaekimman doesn't say anything about Dir's that I can see15:47
nosrednaekimthen again... it doesn't say ti doesn't work for dirs15:48
nosrednaekimOakbox» humph...15:48
Vermuxjussi01: any solution?15:48
Oakboxnosrednaekim: yeah :) buggin me too15:48
Baykoeverytime i try to bring up google it gives cant access server15:50
jussi01Vermux: Im playing around with it15:50
Baykosame with every page15:50
nosrednaekimOakbox» what doe "apt-cache policy kdebase-bin-kde4" say15:50
nosrednaekimBayko» does ping work?15:50
nosrednaekimBayko» but IRC does?15:50
Baykostrangley enough15:50
Baykokonqueror and firefox both15:51
Oakboxblackflag-at-wor: can you use sftp with wile char to do it like scp ./*15:51
Baykowould playing around nmap cause this15:51
nosrednaekimBayko» try pinging an IP....."ping"15:51
Baykok sec15:51
Oakbox  Installed: (none)15:51
nosrednaekimBayko» maybe...depends who you are nmaping ;)15:51
Oakbox  Candidate: 4:4.0.1-0ubuntu2~gutsy1~ppa115:51
Oakbox  Version table:15:51
Oakbox     4:4.0.1-0ubuntu2~gutsy1~ppa1 015:51
Oakbox        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/main Packages15:51
oemhow can I try KDE4 using apt-get15:52
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde415:52
jussi01!paste | Oakbox15:52
ubotuOakbox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:52
Baykocant ping by ip or domain15:52
nosrednaekimOakbox» pastebin..... but ok.15:52
jussi01nosrednaekim: Oakbox please take the kde4 discussion to #kubuntu-kde415:52
Baykowould playing in Nmap cause me to lose cxn to google intermittently?15:53
oemis there a way I can upgrade to kde4 without using the image cd?15:53
jussi01!kde4 | oem15:54
ubotuoem: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde415:54
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BluesKajHowdy all15:57
jussi01hello BluesKaj15:57
Oakboxjussi01: sorry im new at this irc stuff :s15:57
BluesKajhi jussi0115:57
jussi01Oakbox: your fine ;)15:57
Vermuxjussi01: I installed xine. how do I tell FFOx to use xine to watch that video?16:01
ccvphahahha, a clean install of ubuntu 7.10, needs "196 update patches" out of the box.............thats 1,000 worse then windows ever was with security patches/updates.16:02
trappistccvp: of course, ubuntu comes with 1000x more software than windows...16:03
nosrednaekimccvp» they aren't all securty related I don't think16:03
ccvpi know16:04
ccvpeven some of the windows update patches16:04
ccvparent all security related,16:04
ccvpthey add more functionality16:04
ccvpbut ..........196 from a 7.10 current iso?16:04
Vermuxhow do I tell firefox to use xine to watch a video in a website?16:05
ccvpvermux, awwww16:05
ccvpyour from chicago16:05
ccvpyou supporting "obama" :) ?16:05
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:05
Vermuxccvp: no16:05
BluesKajVermux: install the mozilla-xine plugin16:05
Vermuxgo back tu russia16:06
ccvpwhat is "kubuntu" heh, i always thought it was a channel typo16:06
ccvpand people simply idled in a typo'd chat room16:06
Daisuke_Idoccvp: yes, but these patches tend to be a bit smaller, and while a single windows update patch will patch an entire app, a linux patch has a separate entry for each part of the application16:06
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE16:06
VermuxBluesKaj: I have it installed16:06
ccvpmy 196 patches just installed16:07
ccvptime to reboot heh16:07
ccvpon the laptop16:07
Anasi use kmess as hotmail messenger but i cannt see any yahoo contacts i already have yahoo contacts in my hot messenger is there any way to see them? or is there other program i can use allow me to handle both contacts?16:07
jussi01Anas: kopete16:07
jussi01!kopete | Anas16:07
ubotuAnas: Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim16:07
ccvpI wiped out Vista on my Vostro 1500, that has Core 2 Duo T7250(2.0 ghz), 2gig ram, Nvidia 8400M GS, 160gb 7200 RPM HD, 15.4" wxga+ monitor16:08
ccvpwill this laptop run 7.10 decent?16:08
jussi01ccvp: that should be more than fine16:08
nosrednaekimccvp» yes16:08
ccvpits a dell laptop16:08
ccvpim gonna check to see if wireless works after reboot16:08
Daisuke_Idoccvp: what's the wireless chipset?16:09
ccvpreboot will check after16:09
ccvpbut overall so far the OS seems snapier/more responsive16:09
BluesKajVermux:  some sites use flash, like youtube , others windows media type video , so make sure you have the 'flash plugin-nonfree' installed too16:09
ccvpthen Vista did16:09
Anasi dont have yahoo account but i have yahoo clients on hotmail account kobete let me open yahoo account and hotmail account did anyone get what i want to say16:09
nosrednaekimAnas» i'm afraid not...16:10
jussi01Anas: I understand. they should all show up in kmess16:10
VermuxBluesKaj: cant find it in search16:11
Anasno i can see only hotmail contacts16:11
jussi01Anas: You are talking about yahoo addresses using msn messenger accounts correct?16:11
VermuxBluesKaj: how do i use xine to watch a video when using firefox?16:11
ccvphmmmm weird16:11
ccvpevidently everything works16:11
ccvpexcept my sound16:11
jussi01ccvp: do you know which sound card?16:12
BluesKajit's automatic...it depends what the site uses ..could be flashplugin-nonfree is what you need16:12
ccvpthats my laptop16:12
SpamInaCanwhen i load up the new alpha (and all older versions) this happens on my screen can i fix this???, http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo02hr0.jpg16:12
VermuxBluesKaj: I have the flash plugin installed16:12
BluesKajwell, stuff to do ..bbl16:12
ccvpSTAC 92XX C-Major HD Audio16:13
Anasi add yahoo email for friends to my hotmail messenger i dont have yahoo email on kmess i log to my hotmail but i cannt see any of yahoo contacts16:13
jussi01ccvp: thats an intel one correct?16:13
ccvpDell Sigmatel STAC 92XX C-Major HD Audio16:13
jussi01hrrrm... not sure on those, they might be the same chipset as the intel ones16:14
SpamInaCanplease help me.....16:14
jussi01!sound | ccvp first try this16:14
ubotuccvp first try this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP316:14
jussi01SpamInaCan: patience, im looking16:14
VermuxIs there something similar to  multimedia connectivity application in firefox?16:14
nosrednaekimSpamInaCan» wow... thats  an error I only saw in KDE416:15
SpamInaCanthat is not kde4....16:15
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SpamInaCanthis happens in every version (or well kubuntu and ubuntu) i have tried16:15
Anasjussi01: i add yahoo email for friends to my hotmail messenger i dont have yahoo email on kmess i log to my hotmail but i cannt see any of yahoo contacts16:15
jussi01!intelhda | ccvp: if it doesnt work you can try this16:15
ubotuccvp: if it doesnt work you can try this: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto16:16
nosrednaekimSpamInaCan» from what I recall, it was a problem with X resolution detection.....this happened on gutsy too?16:16
mothow do i burn a dvd .img file to a cd?16:16
SpamInaCanand this is not an old laptop btw..., its brand spankin new... i got it on valentines day.....16:16
jussi01I got to run, see you all later.16:16
SpamInaCanyes, i have tried the alpha of kubuntu (in the pix...), 7.10 (ubuntu/kubuntu) 7.04 (ubuntu/kubuntu)16:17
Daisuke_IdoSpamInaCan: i was trying to answer in the other channel16:18
Daisuke_Idoinstall krandrtray16:18
SpamInaCanwell my res is 1024x800 :)16:18
Daisuke_Idoa nice convenient little app that's saved my but when that's happened16:18
Daisuke_Ido1024 or 1280?16:18
SpamInaCan1280 oppps16:19
SpamInaCanso it is loading 1024x786?16:19
Vermuxhow do I open asp file?16:19
SpamInaCanx is loading right since my mouse can go over in that area right?16:20
SpamInaCanvermux asp is windows....16:20
Vermuxasf object?16:20
nosrednaekimSpamInaCan» I suppose....16:20
VermuxI want to open asf video16:20
SpamInaCani like the bigger res (lol)16:20
ccvpi think i found a thread on ubuntuforums.org that solves it16:21
ccvpsudo apt-get install module-assistant16:21
ccvpm-a update16:21
ccvpm-a prepare16:21
ccvpm-a a-i alsa16:21
Daisuke_IdoSpamInaCan: yeah, you're going to need krandrtray, or some way of changing your resolution16:21
nosrednaekimSpamInaCan» this is a liveCD, right?16:22
Daisuke_Idoshould be a matter of just switching it to 1280x80016:22
Vermuxwhere is mplayer located in the computer?16:22
harmentalhey guys...is it normal that "echo $TMP" returns a blank line?16:22
SpamInaCanyes live cd16:22
SpamInaCanbrb gotta toss stuff in dryer16:22
harmental(im trying to solve kded overload problem)16:22
ccvpseems theres an issue16:23
ccvpwhen plugging in usb headphones16:23
ccvpand vice versa taking out, sound will perm come through speakers, and not redirect to headsets heh16:23
ccvpreading more . . . .16:23
SpamInaCanwill my RTL8187B (wifi card) work on linux?16:27
SpamInaCando i need ndiswrapper or anything like that?16:28
nosrednaekimSpamInaCan» if it doesn't work out of the box, ndiswrapper should fix it up:)16:28
ere4si!wireless | SpamInaCan16:29
ubotuSpamInaCan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:29
ere4si!info ndiswrapper16:29
SpamInaCanam i going to have to change my res every boot?16:29
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy16:30
nosrednaekimSpamInaCan» if you keep using the liveCD, yes ;)16:30
Vermuxhow do I find where Mplayer is installed, so firefox can use it to open files?16:30
SpamInaCan!info ndiswrapper-ultis16:30
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper-ultis does not exist in gutsy16:30
oem_how to make java to work in konqueor16:30
SpamInaCan!info ndiswrapper*16:30
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy16:30
SpamInaCannosrednaekim live cd for testing :)16:31
nosrednaekimSpamInaCan» well, if you install, you will not have to change the res every time16:31
mrx_hi. i am first-time user of kubuntu and got some problems... somebody help?16:31
SpamInaCanbtw before i run what version of ubuntu should i install?16:32
SpamInaCan8.0x or 7.10?16:32
ere4simrx_, you just state your prob here then whoever knows will answer16:32
mrx_i can not install any packages with package manager16:33
ArwenI'm trying to setup my own apt repository, anyone got any advice on cheap/free hosting plans?16:33
SpamInaCanwhy not mrx?16:33
SpamInaCanarwen you could use launchpad :)16:33
Arwensay what? lol16:33
ere4si8.04 comes out in april SpamInaCan  - it is beta 'till then16:33
mrx_there is some java programs i tried to install, but they were likely to be faulty and i can not remove them from package manager?16:33
Arwenwhat was that about launchpad?16:34
SpamInaCanwhat?*** (sorry.....)16:34
SpamInaCanyes you can host your own repo on launchpad :)16:34
nosrednaekimSpamInaCan» 7.10 for now.16:34
nosrednaekim!PPA | Arwen16:35
ubotuArwen: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.16:35
SpamInaCanThanks everyone for there help :D16:35
Arwennosrednaekim, no thanks, not till they let me use gpg keys16:35
jpatrickArwen: they do16:35
mrx_how do i install mplayer+16:35
SpamInaCanmrx_ very carefully?, well cya peeps i have to run to work :D16:36
jpatrick!info mplayer | mrx_16:36
SpamInaCan!info wesnoth16:36
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs16:36
PiciWait for it... some people are abusing the bot in #ubuntu16:36
ubotumrx_: mplayer (source: mplayer): The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.1 (gutsy), package size 3775 kB, installed size 9428 kB16:36
ubotuwesnoth (source: wesnoth): fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.6-1ubuntu2.4 (gutsy), package size 1963 kB, installed size 4472 kB16:36
mrx_package manager does not work16:37
SpamInaCanmrx did you enable the extra repos?16:37
ere4simrx_, have you got all the repositories enabled?16:37
mrx_don't know??? what is that?16:38
mrx_i am just used to windows16:38
harmentalguys...could you please share with me what is the output you find for: echo $TMP16:38
ere4si!repos | mrx_16:38
ubotumrx_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories16:38
VermuxI used konqueror instead of ffox to open the video and it works16:39
Vermuxno need for ugly xine or mplayer16:39
Daisuke_Idoharmental: i get nothing.16:40
nosrednaekimharmental» blank16:40
harmentalnosrednaekim: shouldnt TMP poit towards /tmp?16:40
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nosrednaekimnot if its not a global variable16:41
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nosrednaekim"echo $ETC" doesn't show anything if you know what I mean.16:41
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harmentalnosrednaekim: oooh....Another question then.....im experiencing some serious issues after upgrading to kde 3.5.9.....every time i plug a usb drive the kded process overloads mi proc....(90% actually)....also i can only mount one drive...the second one is not even recognized......16:43
harmentali need desperate help here.....16:44
mrunagidesperste help?16:44
* mrunagi hushes16:44
nosrednaekimyou desperately need help;)16:44
mrunagiyea i do16:44
mrunagii now run 3 operating systems16:44
mrunagiwhats WRONG with me!16:44
harmentalwell...something like that...16:45
nosrednaekimharmental» uhhh.... is the second one recognized by dmesg?16:45
rewatihello i have problem with my wifi can somebuddy help16:45
harmentalnosrednaekim: what??16:45
nosrednaekimrewati» whats the problem?16:45
rewatii am not able to connect to wireless16:46
rewatimy wifi is running16:46
nosrednaekimharmental» uhh... wait.... you are plugging in two USB drives at the same time?16:46
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:46
Vermuxis there a utility for fire fox that controls multimedia?16:46
rewatiwifi led is on16:46
mrunagirewati: doesnt always mean its set up right16:46
rewatii used restricted driver16:47
rewatiit was workin then16:47
mrx_can not get it to work even though repositories are right =((16:47
rewatii am not able to see the available network16:47
harmentalnosrednaekim: first i plug one usb drive in one slot....i gets automatically mounted but kded starts eating up my precious clock cycles, then (without unplugging the first drive) i plug a second HDD into another usb slot.....but it doesnt even get mounted...16:47
mrx_watching divx movies with Caffeine player lags terrible...16:48
nosrednaekimharmental» I see.16:48
nosrednaekimrewati» but it was working before?16:48
mrunagithen use the restricted driver..16:48
rewatii was workin on my wire less16:49
rewatibut now somethin went wrong and i am not able to connect to the available network16:49
nosrednaekimrewati» probably your interfaces file.... run this command "kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces" and erase(or comment out) the section that refers to your wireless card16:49
jackaultwhat's the difference between kdesudo and normal sudo ?16:50
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)16:51
rewatiauto lo16:51
rewatiiface lo inet loopback16:51
rewatiiface eth1 inet dhcp16:51
rewatiauto eth116:51
rewatithis is my output16:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:52
mrx_i get some error like "An error was found when the changes should be archieved" when i try install stuff with package manager..... what is wrong?16:52
nosrednaekimrewati» ok,comment out (put a # before) the lines refering to eth116:52
mrunagipasting in channel ftw16:53
rewatinosrednaekim i did it on last to line16:54
nosrednaekimok... save the file.16:54
rewatii did that16:55
Arwenick, ppa sucks16:56
Arwenanyone got any ideas about free hosting?16:56
rewatinosrednaekim now what to do16:56
jackaultWow, I could've used that tip about kdesudo a long time ago. I kept messing up permissions of stuff cause of it....16:56
nosrednaekimrewati» "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"16:57
* BluesKaj now has a vehicle free of road salt ..yesss!16:57
nosrednaekimrewati» a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" might be neccesary to put knetworkmanager back in line16:57
rewatiit says ignoring unknown interface eth116:58
geniiBluesKaj: Too bad it's gonna snow again soon16:58
rewatinosrednaekim it says ignoring unknown interface eth116:58
nosrednaekimrewati» pastebin the results of "iwconfig"16:58
BluesKajlet it snow ...it had to be done , was bugging me.We're getting a few flurries but nothing substantial, genii16:59
nosrednaekim!info kdm17:00
ubotukdm (source: kdebase): X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1568 kB17:00
MurielGodoiHi,  I got 'NTFS Signature is missing' when trying to mount my ntfs partition, Had anyone faced that before?17:00
rewatinosrednaekim http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57834/17:01
nosrednaekimrewati» looks good.17:01
nosrednaekimrewati» is knetworkmanager working now?17:01
jackaultI know kde4 can be installed pretty easily on the existing kubuntu but any idea on when it's becoming default?17:02
ubotuKubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported.17:02
jpatrickjackault: Alpha 5 had KDE 417:03
jackaultAh, thanks nosrednaekim, jpatrick17:08
frank232will kde4 be in the main repository for hardy?17:09
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mrx_i get the error : error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.... when i try to open mplayer video. what is wrong?17:11
nosrednaekimfrank232» YES17:13
Arwenwtf, I uploaded a package to PPA and it doesn't show up...17:15
harmentalwhat are the "unsupported packages" in adept....is it safe to use them?17:16
harmentaland also...Whats the difference between "safe upgrade" and "full upgrade"?17:16
nosrednaekimArwen» takes a while for it to build17:16
nosrednaekimArwen» BTW... #launchpad would probably be better17:17
Arwenoh yeah, do I upload to "~anon32" or "anon32"?17:17
runleveltenThe clues are in the words "unsupported", "safe", and "full". :)17:17
Arwenand ok...17:17
runleveltenharmental: ^17:17
sigma_1234how do you network linux with a apple mac?17:17
nosrednaekimharmental» unsupported are usually quite safe, they are just not commercially supported17:17
harmentalnosrednaekim: thats the answer i was looking for...thx!17:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:18
nosrednaekimsigma_1234» NFS should work17:18
harmentalnosrednaekim: what about safe and full upgrades?17:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:18
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.17:18
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.17:18
nosrednaekimharmental» not sure about that....full upgrade might be to hardy, but I kinda doubt that17:19
frank232nosrednaekim: harmental: full upgrade might be dist-upgrade and safe upgrade just upgrade but I'm not sure17:20
harmentalnosrednaekim: and how do i upgrade to hardy? is it enough to change gutsy to hardy in my sources?17:22
PriceChild!hardy | harmental17:22
ubotuharmental: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu17:22
nosrednaekimharmental» yes... but you rpobably don't want to do that17:22
harmentalnosrednaekim: actually im trying to solve this fu*** kded problem....17:23
harmentali wondered i maybe hardy got the answer....17:23
nosrednaekimharmental» it may.... but if it does, its probably bound to have a ton more problems.17:23
harmentalnosrednaekim: ok...so what should i do..its really difficult to work like this....17:24
harmentaly usb drives are very important......17:24
nosrednaekimharmental» indeed....first of all, please file a bug.... second.... I don't know....17:26
harmentalthere already some bugs posted...but not visible answer17:27
nosrednaekimhi rewatidid you get it fixed?17:28
nosrednaekimharmental» hum.. you could always try to use kde4 :)17:28
rewatiya its showin network but i am unable to connect into it17:29
rewatinosrednaekim ya its showin network but i am unable to connect into it17:31
harmentalnosrednaekim: done that...but kde4 is really buggy right now....17:31
nosrednaekimrewati» is it encrypted?17:31
nosrednaekimharmental» ok.17:31
nosrednaekimharmental» when did you last try it?17:32
harmentallast week.....didnt like it....17:32
Anasi havr LMME src i want to install it how could i install from source??17:33
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html17:33
coreymon77are we sure we need to do it with the source?17:33
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coreymon77no binary ppackages?17:34
rewatinosrednaekim no17:34
nosrednaekimrewati» well you can alwasy connect from the command line then17:35
rewatinosrednaekim ok how to do that17:35
nosrednaekimrewati» well, run "sudo iwconfig eth1 ESSID DeDE && sudo dhclient eth1"17:36
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coreymon77wifi problems17:36
coreymon77darn no time to help though17:37
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javier 17:38
Anasi think i was use make , make install is that right?? i allready download the src17:38
reesehi. i just configured a gprs bluetooth connection, but I'm having problem connecting msn with kopete.. is there some files that I have to configure in order to make it work?17:40
kameshAnas: 1) ./configure 2) make 3) make install17:41
rewatinosrednaekim its not workin givin some error17:41
kameshYou should first try and read the readme file and the install file17:41
kameshthey should have detailed descriptions17:41
nosrednaekimrewati» BRB....17:41
rewatinosrednaekim BRB????17:42
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jackaultbutnotrewati: It means that he'll be right back. What was the problem you're facing?17:43
kameshBRB : be right back17:43
rewatiactually i am not able to work with my wireless17:44
rewatiits showing available network but its not connecting17:44
JoeJoeKubuntu installation appearantly divided my harddrive into three sections. The sections were linux is accessible, but i get the error message "Hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" when i try to access the two others. what is wrong?17:44
kameshrewati@ try restarting your ADSl17:44
rewatiADSl ????17:45
kameshjoejoe @ is that partition ntfs formatted17:45
kameshrewati @ how are you connected to the internet ?17:45
kameshthrough a wireless device in your home called ADSL (like dlink etcc..)17:46
rewatiright now i am connect through ethernet17:46
kameshpower it of first and then wait for 10 sec and then power it on..17:47
kameshcheck if this works or not17:47
JoeJoekamesh. i don't know???17:47
JoeJoecan i format the partion in kubuntu?17:48
kameshjoejoe @ is it on an external usb device ?17:48
JoeJoeit's just a different partion17:49
JoeJoeone harddrive17:49
kameshjoejoe @ click on Startmenu (Kmenu) > system settings > (go to Advanced tab) > click on Disk and File systems17:50
Anaskamesh: i tried ./configure i got bash: ./configure: No such file or directory17:50
kameshjoejoe @ then you could see the partitions there and the type of formatting as well17:51
rewatikamesh i amm conected through ethernet17:51
kameshthen report back tlo me17:51
kameshAnas @ You have to be in that directory and then do ./configure17:52
reeseanybody else having problems with the msn account with kopete?17:52
reeseor is it just me?17:52
Anaskamesh:i know that and i did that17:52
kameshAnas @ Can you find configure file in that directory ?17:52
JoeJoekamesh, and then what=?17:53
jackaultbutnotreese: I can login just fine. What error does it show you?17:53
Anaskamesh@ no but theere is Makefile.am & Makefile.in17:54
kameshJoeJoe @ Check if the partition you are having problems with is an ntfs one.. because ntfs partitions usually have this problem17:54
JoeJoethe second partion says Type:ext3 and is /dev/sda2??++17:55
BluesKajkamesh @ ,...what is the @ supposed to do17:56
JoeJoewhat should i do??17:57
BluesKajkamesh:  drop the @ it doesn't do anything , the nick is highlighted if it's spelled properly.The @ does nothing on irc.17:57
kameshAnas: try "make all-recursive"18:02
yujiis there a way to start a new shell starting in the same directory ?18:02
kameshsorry guys I have to leave now18:02
Anaskamesh: make: *** No rule to make target `all-recursive'.  Stop.18:03
voicuhi, i'm running proftpd on a computer i have it takes ages to connect from another computer in the local network. the transfer speed is fine though (up to 10mb/s). any idea why?18:07
BanTamcan Konquerer be safely removed withoutbreaking anything?18:17
nosrednaekimBanTam» I wouldn't bet on it...18:18
BanTamthats what i was thinking..lol18:18
nosrednaekimBanTam» you could always give it a shot and see what it tries to take with it18:19
jpatrick!ot | ccvp18:34
ubotuccvp: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:34
ccvpwhat's a good, high quality, app to virtually mount bin/cue/iso files in ubuntu?18:35
SlimeyPeteccvp: for iso all you need is the mount command18:37
SlimeyPetenot sure about the others though.18:37
ccvpi just may run that in wine18:39
frank232ccvp: that wont work in wine18:42
frank232ccvp: that definitely has a windows driver which won't be emulated by wine18:43
ccvpits not loading on double click18:43
ccvpgonna rm it bleh18:43
ccvpwhat is native in linux i can use instead?18:43
chronos__Does kubuntu have a codec pack aside from kubuntu-restricted?18:43
frank232ccvp: cdemu and acetoneiso can create virtual drives in linux.18:43
ccvpapt-get install acetoneiso?18:43
frank232ccvp: um i'm not sure if aceoneiso is in the repos18:44
chronos__You can for sure get it from kdelook18:45
ccvpwtf, i just randomly remembered a weird dream i had last night . . . odd.......... i walked into my basement, and saw a secret trap door, that was covered by cob webs, and below that basement, was like a basement from the 1700's.....old ancient valuables......there were 250 yr old vultures , that were albino and still alive . . . .besides valuable stamps and other items, that were long lost....18:47
ccvpa hidden basement, below a basement18:48
ccvpcdemu.sourceforge.net - a decent package?18:51
Arwenccvp, well, Linux can already mount ISO images18:56
Arwenso unless you need one of the conversion tools in it18:56
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.18:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:00
rewatihi there19:04
rewatimy sound is notworkin on laptop19:05
rewatican anybody help19:05
rewatimy sound is notworkin on laptop can anybody help me19:06
jpatrick!sound | rewati19:08
uboturewati: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP319:08
jpatrick!repeat > rewati19:08
El-Notorio-K-DogTesting my IRC client19:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:09
El-Notorio-K-Dogamigo: do you readme ?19:09
amigoEl-Notorio-K-Dog: нуы19:10
amigoEl-Notorio-K-Dog: yes19:10
rewatihi my sound is not workin sm1 can help19:11
Arwengcc options look really funny... "-funroll-loops"19:11
Arwen(and yes, I know that's -f + "unroll-loops")19:11
zimonrewati: is arts running?19:12
rewatizimon how to check that19:13
zimonps aux |grep artsd19:13
JuzamIs it possible to install Kubuntu on a RAID-0-Array?19:13
rewatizimon ya i think so it is giving two process name19:13
zimonrewati: ok. what's the output of "lspci |grep -i audio" and "cat /proc/asound/card*/codec* |grep -i codec" ?19:15
rewatizimon 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)19:16
rewatiCodec: SigmaTel STAC922819:17
rewatiCodec: Conexant ID 2c0619:17
zimonrewati: alright. exactly the same as mine. that isn't supported by ubuntu's snd-hda-intel driver ... they misconfigured something19:18
rewatizimon ok then how to get it work19:18
zimonrewati: you need to get ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.16.tar.bz2 and compile the driver manually19:18
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:21
rewatizimon i downloaded it now how to compile it and install it19:21
zimonrewati: you need to run ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-card-options=hda-codec-sigmatel,hda-codec-conexant19:21
zimonrewati: for the steps: see INSTALL and README19:22
rewatizimon are u there19:38
zimonrewati: yes19:38
rewatizimon i installed it and it was sucess19:38
rewatizimon but still there is no sound19:39
zimonrewati: so you've got sound now?19:39
rewatiit gave waring that it is muted19:39
zimonrewati: ah. run alsamixer in a konsole and unmute all channels19:39
rewatiso i started alsa mixer and i saw it was not muted it was full19:39
rewatizimon ok i did that but still its not workin19:40
zimonrewati: what did the two digits beneath the bars say? 00 or MM?19:40
rewatiit says 0019:41
zimonrewati: hm .. that should be alright.19:42
rewatizimon ok19:43
rewatizimon how???19:43
zimonrewati: maybe i forgot something ... you could try recompile it with --with-card-options=all .... that makes the driver a bit large, but doesn't cause problems19:44
zimonrewati: or you didn't reload the module properly. do the last lines of dmesg show something with snd-hda-intel?19:47
rewatizimon i am recompiling it with option = all19:48
rewatiit says successfully compiled19:48
* lysli is away: Parti pour l'instant.19:48
jpatrick!away > lysli19:49
zimonrewati: erm .. you did run make install, right?19:50
zimonrewati: not just ./configure && make19:50
rewatizimon yes19:51
rewatimake was also successful19:51
storbeckrewati: What sound card do you have?19:52
rewatimake install was also good19:52
ringlejI remember a while back using some tool to convert an RPM to APT, but I can't remember the name of it...19:52
zimonrewati: so try the new module. that has to work :-)19:52
ringlejtekteen: that's it. thanks!19:53
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rewatizimo which one19:53
storbeckrewati: What sound card do you have?19:53
zimonrewati: the one you built with ...=all19:53
tekteen!alien > ringlej19:54
ccvpwhat's this crap about "generic error" when trying to delete files that were originally mounted with a mounting tool like acetoneiso2? I somehow put the original mounted data into a void, and the mounted data is still floating on my desktop....cannot remove to trash, "Generic Error"19:54
ringlejtekteen: I was wanting to install the latest version of gquilt on my system. what sort of bad thing could happen?19:57
tekteenringlej: rpm and apt are different19:57
tekteenany number of problems could happen19:58
tekteenringlej: why not install it from source19:58
hydrogenthat presents it's own set of problems...19:58
ringlejOk. I'll remove the gquilt that I currently have and install from source instead.19:58
ringlejhmm. I could install to /usr/local/19:59
tekteenringlej: if nothing is happening it should be fine19:59
MartinsGustyWaitin http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/ - why is there no gutsy-commercial?20:01
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rewatizimo which one20:02
zimonrewati: the one you just built. with the ...=all option20:02
* MartinCleaver reads https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/14080720:04
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harmentali think i found the solution for the kded overload problem..if someone has been experiencing the same issue he can contact me...20:07
aaroncampbellWhat's the proper way to install a .deb in Kubuntu?  I just want to make sure that I can remove this later if there is an issue20:10
Arwenaaroncampbell, with "gdebi" or "dpkg -i"20:10
Arwenat any rate, you can remove it with "dpkg -r"20:10
aaroncampbellThanks, I don't even know what gdebi is, but I'll look at the options20:11
Arwenanyone here using compiz?20:12
Arwenthere's got to be something less straining on the eys than rotate-cube20:12
tekteenArwen: yep20:12
tekteennot using the cube20:13
Arwenwhat else do I have?20:13
rickestArwen: expose plugin20:13
Arwenexpo sucks20:13
tekteenDesktop plane20:13
tekteendesktop wall20:14
Arwenhmm, that looks nice actually20:14
* Arwen now goes to turn off every single visual effect in compiz20:14
* tekteen did that a while back20:14
tekteenIt is great to show off to friends. not to use20:15
Arwenhmm, the issue I have with plane is I can't go from port 1 to port 420:15
tekteenI do not use it20:15
Arwenoh, wall works20:15
tekteenit is not flashy. I only use the normal stuff and switch to the really flashy eye burning stuff20:16
tekteento show off to friends20:16
Arwenactually, the configuration I'm going for has less effects than most people's kwin setups20:16
* Arwen just wants the GPU rendering20:16
tekteenyou need a good driver then20:16
aaroncampbellI use the scale plugin, and I set "Initiate Window Picker for All Windows" to Screen Edge TopLeft . . .  I use that for switching back and forth a lot, because it lets me switch to the program I'm looking for without worrying about what desktop it's on, or what other programs it's behind20:18
harmentalhow can i check if CONFIG_HOTPLUG is enabled?20:22
philastI had a bit of a problem with a recent package update that's left me without crypto support when I boot.  Bit of a problem.  I can mount the partition under the Live CD but want to roll back the package updates so I can boot normally.20:22
zimonharmental: grep CONFIG_HOTPLUG /boot/config-`uname -r`20:23
philastIt's to do with libvolume.  I posted a message here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3091891.0 but I'm feeling impatient :-P20:23
* beautifulsnow asks: is there an utility that allows me to mount/unmount volumes on my fstab? 20:23
tekteenbeautifulsnow: mount?20:24
harmentalzimon: thx20:24
philastI wonder if anyone can offer a solution.20:24
tekteenbeautifulsnow: you mean command line or gui?20:24
beautifulsnowtekteen, GUI20:24
tekteenbeautifulsnow: konqueror prob will20:24
tekteenbeautifulsnow: go to media:/20:24
beautifulsnowtekteen, right now I have to unplug then unplug the usb drive, to trick ubuntu into mounting it for me ;) I dont feel like typing sudo mount blah blah all the time20:25
tekteenthen right click to mount and unmount20:25
tekteenbeautifulsnow: konqueror does it20:26
* beautifulsnow blushes20:27
zimonbeautifulsnow: are you sure? if the usb drive is plugged in during boot, it's mounted to /media/disk or something similar, but not displayed on your desktop20:27
beautifulsnowwell its supposed to mount it at boot, it has before, i didnt change anything. but  everytime i log in now, i go to amarok (gotta have my tunes ;) ) and it doenst play anything (my collection is on usb drive)20:28
beautifulsnowthen I realize the usb isnt mounted, and manually mount it20:28
zimonbeautifulsnow: hm .. next time you reboot, look if there's something mounted to /media/.. maybe the mount point is just different so amarok doesn't find it20:29
beautifulsnowOh, yes, it's supposed to be /media, and when I manually mount it, it goes to media20:30
philastI wonder if I'm asking in the right place.  Since this issue is nothing to do with the desktop, should I be asking the Ubuntu people?  Or could anyone point me in the right direction.  Am I just being an idiot?20:36
philastwas that for me?20:39
rickestphilast: have to get lucky and find someone that knows about encrypted volumes. seems like the forums (as you've done) is your best bet20:41
philastThanks for that.  Yes, it looks like it.20:41
philastSo back to Windows for now :-(20:41
martijnthe kde4 release is a little buggy!20:48
Arwenmartijn, duh?20:48
* jhutchins_wk mops coffee off his keyboard.20:48
jhutchins_wkmartijn: Um, yeah.20:48
jhutchins_wkmartijn: That's the point.20:48
martijnseems like kopete does not work and i cannot get the composite effect to work anymore20:49
martijnin the kde3 release with kde4-core installed it DOES work with composite effects20:50
bsundsrudis there a decently stable way to go from gutsy to hardy yet? will /gutsy/hardy/g do it or is there a better way?20:50
martijnand aptitude saved my ass again, i love it20:50
Daisuke_Idoyour best bet is to ask in #kubuntu-kde420:50
Daisuke_Idothat's their baby, a lot of the same people in both places, but a pretty good number on this side don't know much about kde4 yet20:51
martijnthanks Daisuke_Ido20:54
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DHGEbsundsrud: did it on a spare machine - worked even with an encrypted volume - NICE :-)20:55
DHGEapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade20:57
bsundsrudnice, any interaction between kde3 and kde4?20:59
cosimo_ragazzi come faccio a connetteermi al server tin?21:00
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!21:00
bsundsrudDHGE: kde 3 or 4?21:01
DHGEbsundsrud: just the 3ish upgrade - compiling KDE4 on Debian Lenny as I type ...21:02
DHGEor: YES21:02
bsundsrudok, wanted to make sure that my 3 wouldn't be messed with21:03
DHGEu get 3.5.9 ... nice IMO21:03
bsundsrudhmm, instead could i somehow get a backports version of wine?21:04
bsundsrudi was going to move to hardy before it goes gold but what prompted me now was a need for the latest wine. its 0.9.46 in universe gutsy, but i need 0.9.55 (in hardy)21:05
DHGEbsundsrud: just add the wine-deb repository to your sources.list21:05
DHGEBTW: wine is one deb ...21:06
bsundsrudthat info at winehq.org or do you have the line?21:06
DHGEboth... ;-)21:07
DHGEdeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main21:07
DHGEyou want the PGP-key also ...21:07
bsundsrudadept took it without complaint21:08
DHGEwait a little ...21:09
bsundsrudits installed21:09
bsundsrud--version reports 0.9.5521:09
bsundsrudgood deal, thanks21:09
bsundsrudi'll do a clean install of hardy later :D21:10
DHGEsave /home /etc and some /var21:10
blenheimI've got a bit of a problem21:12
blenheimTrying to start 7.10, it goes to that screen where this block is moving from side to side and then it just throws me a screen where is blinking _ t-thing21:15
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BluesKajblenheim:  did you recently install a graphics or monitor driver, or edit your xorg.conf file ?21:17
blenheimI can't even get it started from cd21:17
blenheimto install it21:17
Daisuke_Idoalternate cd might be a better fit21:17
Daisuke_Idoand speaking of, why can't they merge the alternate and live cd?  text menu on boot asking which you want to do21:18
blenheimyou said that21:18
blenheimas the matter of fact I had same like problem with earlier version (7.04 or so). I did get it installed and it jams the machine while trying to start it21:19
DHGEblenheim: what video - any other Linux capable running on your machine?21:19
blenheimI'm having 6.06 now on my hard drive21:20
blenheimnewer versions doesn't work at all21:20
martijn81blenheim: current development version gives me a busybox on one of my computers too, i already reported a bug for that21:21
blenheimLooks like I'm still stuck with this older version for a while21:22
blenheimOr propably I should think of updating my hardware...21:22
DHGEor try some boot options21:23
blenheimwhat should i try?21:23
DHGE8.04 is near - try an alpha CD21:23
blenheimhmm, maybe21:23
sjckhow can I see which version of wine I have installed?21:24
trappistsjck: wine --version21:24
sjckthank you21:25
DHGEor apt-cache show "package name"21:26
trappistactually that'll show what's available since your last apt-get update, not what's installed21:27
trappistit'll usually be the same, though21:27
DHGEInstalled-Size: 4980021:27
trappistdpkg -l wine would be better21:27
geniiapt-cache policy <name> shows installed version21:27
blenheimMaybe I'll just try to download this alternate cd21:28
DHGEblenheim: if it is NOT a video problem it won't help you ...21:28
blenheimThanks for the information and help guys21:28
blenheimI think it has to be downloaded again, md5 sum was differing a bit of that what is at server21:29
sjckhow can I see which version of kubuntu I have installed?21:29
rewatihey i have problem with soud some one can help me21:30
ere4silsb-release -a21:30
trappist!ask | rewati21:30
uboturewati: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)21:30
sjckcommand not found21:31
rickestere4si: lsb_release (no dash)21:31
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell21:31
trappistsjck: sudo apt-get install lsb-release21:31
rewatithere is beed sound in my system but when i am playin smthing it says devise is busy21:31
rewatiamorok say device is busy21:31
DHGEcat /etc/lsb-release21:31
sjckthank you21:31
rewatiamarok says output unavailable device busy21:33
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP321:33
Daisuke_Idois there a single sound system that provides reliable compatibility with existing systems?21:34
Daisuke_Idokey word reliable21:34
DHGErewati: try to look at amarok's engines - xine works well for me21:34
rewatihow to do that21:34
trappistDaisuke_Ido: define system for both uses, please21:34
rewatiDHGE how to do that21:35
Daisuke_Idoatrs, alsa, oss21:35
DHGEtry! it is in the menus ... F121:35
Daisuke_Idoarts, that is21:35
trappistwell arts is very different from alsa or oss21:35
trappistlike, a different category of software21:35
trappistthen there's esd21:36
blenheimargh, torrentsoftware had left few bytes behind and thats why it doesnt work at all maybe...21:36
rewatiDHGE how to do that21:36
blenheimShould every time check that md5 before burning :)21:36
sjckcan anyone tell me how to mount a .iso?21:36
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.21:36
Daisuke_Idoessentially a unified sound system (which i think was in the works for hardy, perhaps intrepid)21:37
sjckis /example a mountpoint?21:37
Daisuke_Idojust don't remember what it was called...21:37
Daisuke_Idosjck: if you create it then it can be21:37
trappistDaisuke_Ido: well that's why I asked you to define system.  alsa is a system, and arts is a system, but they work together.  they don't compete.21:37
sjckokay, thanks : )21:37
Daisuke_Idotrappist: ah ha21:37
mrunagiis there a program for kubuntu where i can fill in forms on a pdf?21:38
trappistalsa is is kind of a driver system, which is hardware-dependent.  arts is more of a software mixer for cards that don't have real DSPs, so you can play more than one sound at a time.21:38
DHGEiso:/path/xyz.iso in konqueror if you want to look at the contents21:39
trappistmrunagi: you mean like acrobat reader?21:39
rewatiDHGE how to do that21:39
trappistmrunagi: try, acrobat reader.21:39
trappistDHGE: didn't know that one, nice.21:39
Daisuke_Idokioslaves get cooler by the day21:39
DHGEjust tried it  ;-)21:39
rewatitrappist my sount output device is busy21:40
rewatii am not able to get sound21:40
trappistrewati: right.  I can't help you with that one, but did you try the steps the bot suggested?21:40
Daisuke_Idothat's a good one, audiocd:/ is another favorite (once i figure out how to tweak lame's behaviour)21:40
trappist!sound | rewati21:40
uboturewati: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP321:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dhge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:40
Daisuke_Idomrunagi: DHGE is someone in the channel that mentioned something.21:41
TimSWhat the command to reconfigure xserver?21:41
trappistTimS: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg iirc21:41
martijn81TimS: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:41
TimSCheers :P21:41
DHGEvim /etc/X11/xorg.cong    d&r21:42
TimSIs there a factoid for that, just out of interest?21:42
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto21:42
trappistmaybe not21:42
Daisuke_IdoDHGE: really not the best idea to point new users at vim.21:42
Daisuke_Idojust sayin'21:42
DHGEd&r ...21:42
trappistnew users are better off with cat and ctrl-d21:42
DHGEducking and running21:42
jinzougenWould anyone know why applications aren't rendering progress bars?21:43
trappistI've been on irc a lot of years, first time I've seen d&r21:43
trappistwouldn't rendering?21:44
jinzougenwouldn't render*21:44
trappistjinzougen: try changing your theme - maybe yours has a bad implementation for progress indicators21:44
jinzougenIt's weird. Firefox and thunderbird show the progress bar and their percentages, but no actual bar.21:44
trappistoh, maybe your progress bar foreground and background colors are the same, if I'm understanding your description properly21:45
blenheimjinzougen: same problem in 6.10 kubuntu with newest stable firefox21:45
rewatii am not able to get sound21:45
trappistrewati: dude.  the bot had some suggestions.  did you try them.21:45
rewatiyep i did that21:46
trappistdid what, exactly, and what were the results.21:46
jinzougenBy theme do you mean the widget style?21:46
trappistjinzougen: right, sorry21:46
trappisttheme is kinda ambiguous21:46
jinzougenyeah, same problem for at least two seperate styles.21:46
trappistjinzougen: maybe it's a color issue... matching foreground and background21:46
jinzougenIs the "preview" in the widget style selector respective of colors?21:47
rewatitrappist i did install alsa for my card21:47
rewatinow i have beep sound but no playback21:47
rewatiamarok says device busy21:48
jinzougenWell, I guess it's something else. At least it's no a debilitating thing.21:48
DHGErewati: kmix  -  look at the LED-like symbols maybe yours are OFF21:50
Daisuke_Idorewati: restart artsd21:51
rewatiDHGE at pannel where there is smallspeaker icon it says mixer not present21:51
Daisuke_Idoyeah, i'd say there's a pretty big issue there...21:51
rewatii tried restarting artsd it says /dev/dsp not present21:53
rewatiDHGE i tried restarting artsd it says /dev/dsp not present21:53
maniac_Hello all.21:55
DHGErewati: lsmod | grep snd    gives plenty for my system   maybe you have no sound modules loaded/active21:55
maniac_was anyone able to set-up bluetooth access point?21:55
DHGEmaniac_: yes21:57
maniac_DHGE: how? I have spent 2 days. and no luck yet21:58
maniac_I have checked at least 3 manuals.21:58
maniac_I want to share my internet connection from linux to Win laptop via bluetooth.21:59
maniac_so 1st step - is to configure NAP on linux. And I was able to start pand/bluetoothd-network-service.22:00
DHGEmaniac_: pushed the wireless-button on my notebook, start bluetooth on my phone, started the daemon, synched ...22:00
DHGEphone numbers etc ...22:00
maniac_objex/filetransfer works. I need Network Access Point22:01
maniac_LAN over bluetooth22:01
DHGEgerman ...22:01
maniac_in your scenario: internet->phone->bluetooth->ppp from linux22:02
DHGEthere are different profiles (numbers) u need to guess/get the right profile on the linux side22:02
maniac_i need : internet -> linux -> bluetooth -> winlaptop22:02
rewatiDHGE wats the url of pastebin22:04
rewatii am sendin u the output22:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:04
teqsunhowdy all, Where is a good place to start looking for nice LARGE backgrounds (widescreen)22:05
maniac_teqsun: shiftedreality.com22:05
waynrdudeis there anywhere i can get a pdf of the shipit labels for kubuntu?22:06
teqsunthank you maniac22:06
rickestteqsun: deviantart22:06
ere4siteqsun, deviantart is good too22:06
rewatiDHGE http://de.pastebin.ca/92384922:06
DHGErewati: to me it looks as if you have NO driver for your sound hardware - but then there should bo no entries - sorry do not know22:09
DHGEdid sound work before?22:09
rewatibut there was no beep also and today i got beep sound22:10
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:11
ubotuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot22:12
Plantain_Hey, for some reason pidgin doesn't make any alert noises when someone sends me a message, despite me telling it to in settings22:12
Plantain_No other programs have trouble with sound22:12
beautifulsnowHi, how dificult is it to install themes/styles on KDE? I remmeber having to compile themes a while back, so now Im using gnome, but I like KDE better...22:16
yao_ziyuanthere is sexiness of freedom in linux's sans serif font...22:18
blenheimNaah, new burnt cd didn't help to get over that black screen. MD5 sum matches and everything should be okay22:18
jhutchins_wkblenheim: Try: vga=normal noapi noapic22:30
StrangeletKonqueror is having problems with flash, ex: YouTube's videos do not load and the buttons come out strangely, other flash apps do not load either, and some simply cause severe lag. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?22:32
synaptikbeautifulsnow: it depends on the theme, but i have yet to use a theme that needs compiling. maybe changing a config file here or there. there is also a package in the repos that adds some popular themes to the theme manager.22:32
synaptikmany themes can be found at http://www.kde-look.org22:33
mrunagianyone know where i can get kubuntu cd labels?22:34
synaptikbeautifulsnow: just click on "Theme-Manager" on the left side there for the themes that work with the Theme Manager. also you might find this link helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu22:35
beautifulsnowAlright that sounds goo synaptik, thank you :) As long as I can use a theme manager im happy :)22:36
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy22:36
mrunaginot that kind of artwork dang it22:36
DHGEhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=de&q=kubuntu+cd+labels  found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52006822:37
synaptikmrunagi: there is a thread here about labels: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2429322:37
mrunagithanks =)22:37
jhutchins_wkmrunagi: Dunno.  You can get a template for ooffice.22:37
CortyIs there any way i can force the system tray to always show up two lines using kde?22:37
jhutchins_wkmrunagi: google kubuntu cd label image22:38
synaptikmrunage: here's something else: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing22:40
beautifulsnowDoes anyone know what media player this is? *blush, it looks really clean and simple* http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/75420-1.png22:46
Cortyamarok maybe22:47
Cortylooks good :)22:47
Cortybeautifulsnow, why not? ;)22:47
beautifulsnowAmarok is all "hey look at this over here and look at this over there, are you confused yet?"  ... while that screenshot looks very user friendly :D22:48
oloughlin75its not amarok22:48
beautifulsnowbanshee eh? Ill google it, thank you!22:48
oloughlin75beautifulsnow: Just a gues... I only use amarok22:48
zimonit's banshee22:48
beautifulsnowlol I went on google and typed: banshe meedia player22:48
nosrednaekimdoesn't put its name in the title <_<22:48
oloughlin75yep its banshee22:49
beautifulsnowyeah it is! woohoo!22:49
nosrednaekimthat is Exaile.... a amarok rip-off in GTK22:49
beautifulsnowbye bye amarok of doom!22:49
Cortyoh noez22:49
nosrednaekimoh.. maybe not :)22:49
nosrednaekimsure looks like it..22:49
Cortybeautifulsnow, but the look-at-this-and-that-thing is true..22:49
oloughlin75Corty: Features come with a price22:50
beautifulsnowoloughlin75:  tell that to Apple and watch them snicker at you22:50
oloughlin75Corty: You can hide some of the stuff though22:50
Cortyyeah, right22:50
zimonbeautifulsnow: apart from it's look i think amarok is the best media player for linux ... (ok, i don't know banshee too well) ... but all the simple players are a bit short on features22:50
oloughlin75beautifulsnow: and how much can you configure apple products?22:50
nosrednaekimI still think thats exaile22:51
oloughlin75nosrednaekim: It is banshee!22:51
oloughlin75nosrednaekim: http://banshee-project.org/Image:Banshee-0.11.0-release-library.png22:51
nosrednaekimok ok... I've never really used each very much22:51
oloughlin75same buttons and layout22:51
beautifulsnowoloughlin75: dont have to, theyre pretty good already ;D Anyway, I loooove my x/Ubuntu very much, I would never give up ubuntu for any other OS :)22:51
rickestnot a match: http://www.exaile.org/screens22:51
oloughlin75beautifulsnow: Same, I always have so many things open in linux because it doesnt bog down :/22:52
synaptikhaha, oops :p22:53
beautifulsnowyeah, virtual desktop with 4 desktops f.t.w! :)22:54
* nosrednaekim concedes to oloughlin75.... banshee it is22:55
beautifulsnowOdd, that screenshot was on kdelook not gnomelook ;p22:56
oloughlin75banshee isnt made for one or the other is it?22:56
beautifulsnowgtk based aparently, so its gnome, right?22:56
beautifulsnowyup it ssays  "music management for gnome'22:56
rickestbeautifulsnow: you can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa, though, in case you didn't know22:57
oloughlin75KDE apps are better, but gnome looks better :/22:57
zimonbut it'll load all the gnome-libs, just to play music. :-/22:57
beautifulsnowYeah I do, I heard/read KDE is crash crash friendly, though I like KDE better, I run Ubuntu with Gnome, but yeah, most of the apps I use are kde based :(22:57
Daisuke_Idozimon: it will only *use* the gnome libs when they're needed22:58
rickestnot all just the base stuff (still too much, I agree, but it's not a major issue)22:58
oloughlin75beautifulsnow: konversation and amarok? I do the same thing ^_^22:58
Daisuke_Idoif you have the disk space, it's pointless to whine about it, it's not going to kill you :)22:58
beautifulsnowI tried kubuntu and it didnt come with the automatic updates or add/remove programs menu, or wireless app... gnome seems to go more smooth to me :D but i love kde apps, I often wonder if i should install kde22:58
zimonDaisuke_Ido: yes, but they are needed cause it's linked to libgnome ..22:59
beautifulsnowi hate gnome file manager /  nautilus >_>;22:59
Daisuke_Idoagain, if the disk space is there, why whine or worry about it?  it's not going to hurt anything22:59
Daisuke_Idoare you worried that the gnome libs are going to start infecting kde's libs with their gtkness?\22:59
oloughlin75beautifulsnow: it has add/remove programs...22:59
beautifulsnowi know Daisuke_Ido but i dont want to risk breaking anything because right now I love this distro 11110000%22:59
beautifulsnowoloughlin75:  synaptic?22:59
rickestbeautifulsnow: you can have both. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop23:00
zimonDaisuke_Ido: i'm talking about memory usage ... loading tens of mbs of libs just for playing music is a waste of memory23:00
beautifulsnowi know rickest but i dont want it there if i dont need it ;p anyway, yes i am considering doing it, i already did install xubuntu desktop23:00
Daisuke_Idozimon: *shrugs*23:00
oloughlin75beautifulsnow: It has the same thing as gnome I think, the add/remove... it uses aptitude for its package manager though23:00
Daisuke_Idoi do it to load amarok in gnome23:00
rickestbeautifulsnow: I understand wanting to preserve a system that's working as is, too :)23:00
Daisuke_Idoin fact, that actually loads MORE libraries23:00
Daisuke_Idoand there's no performance hit23:01
synaptikbeautifulsnow: add/remove programs menu (simplified adept), automatic updates, wireless connection manager, are all included in Kubuntu23:01
Daisuke_Idotens of MBs is a pointless thing to worry about in a world where most (not all, but most) desktop machines, and even laptops, have 512mb or better23:01
mrunagisigh it sucks theres no adobe acrobat apps for linux =/23:02
oloughlin75all low end machines now have 1 gig standard23:02
rickestand with 3GB ram it's kind of hard to quantify the concept of "wasting" memory23:02
synaptikyou can also install synaptik in kubuntu if you don't like adept23:02
beautifulsnowsynaptik: thats good to know, for some reason, maybe its because i installed it from kubuntu cd, it didnt recognize my wireless, my mouse and keyboard media buttons, and the dell Fn key.... ubuntu did all of them (same verison, same laptop, so i dont get it O_o)23:02
Daisuke_Idooloughlin75: thank you, that makes my point a little stronger23:02
Daisuke_Idosynaptik: NO! can't have any gtk programs cluttering up a pure kde environment, nosiree!23:03
beautifulsnowLOL!!! :D23:03
Daisuke_Idosee how dumb that sounds?23:03
synaptikit could be a version thing. hard to tell what exactly is on the cd23:03
oloughlin75Daisuke_Ido: Just bought a $500 laptop thats got 2GB ram! :)23:03
beautifulsnownot bad :)23:03
nosrednaekimoloughlin75» dang... where?23:03
oloughlin75prices drop too fast23:03
Daisuke_Idobottom line: if there's an app, be it gtk or qt, and you like it?  use it.23:03
beautifulsnow(jerk! ;p where'd you get it ;___; )23:03
synaptikDaisuke: heehee. but synaptic looks so much cleaner. adept is messy :p23:03
Daisuke_Idoit's not going to hurt anything23:03
oloughlin75nosrednaekim: newegg... they sold out less than an hour after I bought :)23:04
Daisuke_Idosynaptik: i was jsut making a point, i'm all for synaptic :)23:04
nosrednaekimoloughlin75» lol...23:04
synaptik<--- as am i, Daisuke. :p23:05
Daisuke_Idoi could tell :)23:05
synaptikthe one thing i dislike about KDE is all the kapplicationname business23:06
synaptikit klutters up the applikation menu23:06
beautifulsnowSee, I installed xubuntu-desktop yesterday and it came along with a ton of crap i dont need, like games, etc. I don't want to install all that with kubuntu-desktop23:06
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synaptiki think there's a kde-core package or something that doesn't bring all the preinstalled apps with it23:07
Daisuke_Idoi kan't see what all the fuss is about, kontrary to popular belief, a kapital K makes applikations easier to spot...23:07
oloughlin75!find kde-core23:07
ubotuFound: kde-core23:07
beautifulsnowlol :P23:07
ere4sisynaptik, you can install xfce instead of all of xubuntu-desktop23:07
Daisuke_Idoiow, agreed :)23:07
beautifulsnowsudo apt-get install kde-core?23:07
synaptikhere is a little tutorial on kde-core install: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core#why23:08
beautifulsnowThanks ;D23:09
synaptikDaisuke: lol. the first thing i do on a new install is rename everything in the K menu :p23:10
oloughlin75whats a good small fast browser? Firefox seems to run terrible for me23:10
oloughlin75synaptik: does it have media and flash plugins?23:11
unosrry wrong channel23:11
synaptikyes, it is built on the gecko engine, just like firefox23:11
beautifulsnow+1 for epiphany23:11
oloughlin75I will grab it, thanks synaptik23:11
rickestor galeon, same thing. mozilla engine but not XUL, etc.23:13
oloughlin75looks good23:14
beautifulsnowI was doing a google search for "xubuntu-core" (so I know how to strip down to core) and I found this: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/29/   creepy! O.O23:15
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* beautifulsnow faints as she realizes she can use previous/next buttons of her mouse with bansee, unlike amarok <323:17
mrunagihow do you cd to a network folder?23:24
Arwenanyone using amarok? does it have a hotkey for "mute"?23:24
fignewArwen: you can assign mute to any hotkey23:24
LjL-TempArwen, by default, probably yes, but unsure, but just reach the shortcuts settings23:25
LjL-TempArwen, in the same place as all other kde applications ;) also you can set mute globally in kmix23:25
Arwenah, oh well, there's no control for "mute"23:26
LjL-TempArwen, i'm not on kde right now, but tools / configure shortcuts should be it, otherwise go to the system settings and configure global hotkeys23:27
DragnslcrArwen- Win-M by default23:29
mrunagihow do you cd to a network palce int he terminal23:29
ArwenDragnslcr, yay, thanks23:29
rickestmrunagi: "network place"?23:29
mneptokmrunagi: you don't unless it's mounted in the filesystem23:30
mneptokcd = "change directory"23:31
mneptokcd != "connect directly" ;)23:31
Boohbahmrunagi: samba23:31
DragnslcrArwen- it's in Configure Global Shortcuts, in case you want to change it23:31
rickestmrunagi: obviously, we need you to elaborate on what you mean...23:31
synaptikmiranai: i think you need to use smbclient (try "man smbclient")23:32
mrunagiso how do i mount an smb23:32
synaptiki think it would be something like smbmount // /mnt/point23:33
mrunagismbmount...ill try that23:33
synaptikoops, that should be a 6 of course, not 523:33
mrunagicommand not found23:33
tekteenmount smb:/Server/share /mount/point23:33
tekteenwith sudo :-)23:33
mrunagisays i need to declare an fs23:34
tekteenI think23:34
synaptikwhat does "smbclient -L" say23:34
rickest-t cifs23:34
mrunagisynaptik: lists a bunch of flags for smbclient23:34
tekteenmrunagi: install package smbfs23:35
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BluesKajmrunagi:  are you trying to mount a windows partition , if so type ' smb:/ ' in the konq addressbar23:36
tekteenmrunagi: then sudo mount -t smbfs //SERVER/Share /mount/point23:36
Zabulusneed some help with kubuntu updates23:36
tekteenZabulus: what help?23:36
X314hey.. I have a rather forfilling question. what is wish?23:37
mrunagik brb23:37
rickestmrunagi: or '-t cifs' preferrably23:37
Zabulusevery time i try to get the updates it freezes, then corrupts some file and i have to reinstall again23:37
Zabulusive reinstalled kubuntu about 3 times now23:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:38
julian_Many Kubuntu users :D23:38
synaptikX314: try google. i think Wish is a universal device driver23:38
mrunaginow it wants a user name and password23:39
mrunagithere isnt one23:39
tekteenrickest: why is cifs preferred23:39
tekteenmrunagi: put blank23:39
mrunagii did23:39
mrunagistill says the same thing23:39
X314synaptik: okay.. becuase it is using over 50% of my "power"23:39
Dragnslcr!info wish23:40
ubotuPackage wish does not exist in gutsy23:40
tekteenWish is a simple program consisting of the Tcl command language, the Tk toolkit, and a main program that reads commands from standard input or from a file.23:40
tekteenlook at !google23:40
mrunagiso what else can i do23:40
tekteenthat was just the caption when I searched "wish linux"23:40
tekteenX314: another program is using it23:41
X314tekteen: so basically that is normal?23:41
tekteenI do not know23:41
synaptikmrunage: i can't help you anymore but here is info on samba that might be helpful: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Samba_Server23:42
rickesttekteen: no 2GB memory limit, it's a kernel module, more efficient, etc. I'd have to google for more23:42
tekteenrickest: you learn new things every day :-)23:42
tekteenthis is why I hang out here23:43
synaptikmrunagi: sorry i can't spell your name right today :p if you don't get it figured out, also try kubuntuforums.net or come back to the channel ... maybe someone will pop in here who knows more23:43
rickesttekteen: someone told me that about a month ago and searches made them sound right :)  http://www.google.com/search?q=cifs+preferred+smbfs23:43
mrunagiis it because im on the livecd?23:43
X314hum. I am thinking to myself this might just be one of those days where one restarts the computer..23:43
rickesttekteen: plus, I personally ran into the 2GB bug when moving huge stuff around. that took a while to find23:44
tekteenrickest: ok23:44
Zabulusneed help, install kubuntu, try to use adept to update, the update freezes and makes it so i have to try and install anew23:44
tekteenZabulus: try to update in the konsole and pastebin the output23:45
Zabulusill have to reinstall again then, running off of live cd after the update made it so it wont boot again23:45
tekteenZabulus: that does not sound good23:46
tekteenZabulus: but you get more debug info from the commandline23:46
Zabulusyoure telling me, im getting tired of reinstalling linux23:46
tekteenZabulus: that must suck23:47
tekteenZabulus: but this is not enough info to know anything23:47
andrey_hello I am from Ukraine. I bad speak english, sorry23:47
X314anyone know a way you can check how long the computer has been on?23:48
shindaanyone know of any m2ts tools for linux?23:48
andrey_how seting internet in kubuntu 7.10 in konqueror23:48
tekteenX314: uptime23:48
andrey_in firefox good an konqueror bad23:48
tekteenandrey_: in my opinion firefox is better. but konqueror is not bad23:49
waynettaandrey_: Dont understand what you want23:49
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cinexandrey_: get opera ...23:49
X314tekteen: cheers.23:50
* tekteen thinks cinex is evil and wrong23:50
andrey_how setting ipv6 in kde in kubuntu 7.1023:50
andrey_please help me23:50
tekteenandrey_: already setup23:50
tekteenandrey_: it "just works"23:50
andrey_i do not open web site in konqueror anf firefox open site. Why?23:52
tekteenandrey_: I do not know why23:52
andrey_firefox good open site23:52
tekteenandrey_: firefox has a wider amount of sites that work23:53
synaptikandrey_: sorry, this may be simple, but have you typed in address http://kubuntu.org for example in konqueror?23:53
andrey_konversation good work too23:53
crackhead_25hi can anyone HELP ME GET SOUND TO WORK AGAIN?23:54
andrey_При завантаженні http://kubuntu.org/ сталася помилка:23:54
andrey_bad bad23:54
ubotuJoin us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk23:54
synaptikandrey_: Press Alt-F2, then type kdesudo konqueror - can you connect to internet now in konqueror?23:55
andrey_error too23:56
OrsHi there, I am new to kubuntu, just trying to install it.  It goes fine until 76% and then it stops installing any further.  Any suggestion what I should do?23:57
synaptikandrey: okay, one more thing to try.  Go to Tools > HTML Settings and disable cache. then try connecting with konqueror.23:57
synaptikandrey_: did you understand me okay? i can make you a picture if you need it.23:58
ere4siOrs, are you sure it isn't connecting to the net for language packs (or trying to)?23:58
OrsI thought that might have been a problem and I disconnected it23:59
andrey_good :)  thanks23:59
nosrednaekimOrs» not good...23:59
shaffydoes anyone know of a better/another compression program other than Ark?23:59
nosrednaekimOrs» you have to disable it PREVIOUS to the install23:59

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