[00:00] ? [00:03] mrunagi, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [00:04] hi [00:04] why i can't run wine on hardy [00:04] i need [00:06] because hardy isnt ready yet?> === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [00:08] ~ [00:08] so i can't do anything [00:08] ?? [00:11] herro [00:13] when i put in my new external harddrive it says: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000... Why cant i do anything with it? [00:14] hi [00:14] blogtk depends on python 2.4 and python [00:15] python is for wine right [00:15] imo, the dependency on 2.4 should be removed, looks like the maintainer forgot it somehow even if it's mentioned in the changelog [00:15] soc [00:15] pedro: not really [00:16] " * Rebuild for python2.5 as the default python version." [00:16] but when i try to run windows apllication on sistem cofiguration / advaced [00:16] it don't run [00:17] what are you trying to run? [00:17] it sais libpython2.5.so was not found [00:17] wine [00:18] i installed it with synaptic [00:18] ok, you installed wine with synaptic? [00:18] yes [00:18] it appears on my initial menu [00:18] what did you type to get that error message? [00:18] no on the menu when i go to gonfigure wine he don't open [00:19] he stay thinking [00:20] is python still broken in hardy? [00:20] that would be his problem. [00:20] the error mensage it shows up when i go to the menu then click on configuration settings then advaced then windows aplication [00:21] do you have python 2.5 installed? [00:21] pedro: Wine is broken. I'll just hunt down the bug report. [00:21] ok i will go and see [00:21] pedro: You'd be after bug 191575 [00:21] Launchpad bug 191575 in wine "wine segfaults on winecfg" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191575 [00:21] oh yes. i remember someone saying it was boken. [00:21] *broken [00:21] I installed from source and it works ;) [00:21] !works [00:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about works - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:21] !itworks [00:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about itworks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:21] ... [00:22] !worksforme [00:22] Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ [00:22] how i do that sonica [00:22] Sonicadvance1: Or you can install the winehq package, and that works. [00:22] w/e floats your boat I guess :P [00:27] it seems i have to install an older versation [00:35] do not run hardy? [00:37] That's what most would say [00:37] weird...presing back at the PASSWORD stage of the ubiquity installer should not change the password should it? [00:38] becaues my login doesnt work [00:38] and that's the only thing i can think of.. [00:38] it wasnt caps lock [00:40] anyone test out the new firewall yet? how does it compare to firestarter? [00:41] ack, Pulseaudio clogs my 100MB/s connection [00:42] Had to make it stop sending out audio [00:43] i have a feeling my password got wiped when i pressed back on the wizard. anyone aware of this bug? the account name was the same, but i had to go in recovery mode and do "passwd acct" to fix it.. no way to confirm this either way, im just wondering if that's a known bug or something [00:44] the account seems to function normally after setting a password. passwd seems to be the only thing wrong with it [00:50] guys how i can run a deb packege [00:51] double click it [00:51] if you have everything it needs, you should be able to install it from the GUi [00:51] bu it gives me an error [00:52] it says these packege oesn't exist [00:52] :S [00:52] odd [00:53] which package is ti? [00:53] it* [00:53] is the new one that works wine on hardy [00:53] oh [00:53] well you can try installing it from the terminal too [00:53] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4390655 [00:53] sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb [00:53] go and see [00:53] everyone say it works [00:54] anyone have a problem with firefox 3 not having an icon [00:54] well i dont have FF in my quick launch [00:54] or having a icon in applications-->internet [00:55] for some reason ff isnt listed, I have to run ff from cmd line [00:55] FF is in my apps shortcuts [00:55] odd [00:57] pedro, well i cant tes tbecause i have amd64 hardy [00:58] if i force architecture, it installs...so i dont see other problems... [00:59] building new system bbl ^_^ q66 here i come!!!!!!!!!!! [01:00] how i install [01:01] i click on it twice but doesn't work [01:01] xtknicht [01:01] xtknight [01:01] well there should be an install button on the thing that comes up [01:01] pedro, [01:02] yes [01:02] you double click the DEB, it starts a program called gDebi [01:02] yes [01:02] you click install and what does it say [01:02] but when i click on install it gives me an error [01:02] what error is that [01:03] these package doesn't exist [01:04] did you save the .deb file to the desktop or to a directory before opening it [01:04] to the sesktop [01:04] desktop [01:04] why [01:05] hmm [01:05] pedro, well did you try installing the .deb from the terminal [01:05] it doent matter if you saved it to desktop or a directory [01:05] only matters that it is saved [01:06] for example, you cant click open from the website. the deb might be deleted or something. i dont know, but saving is safer sometimes [01:07] i saved i have it on my desktop [01:07] pedro, open a terminal [01:07] i runed the console i and make these [01:07] pedro@pedro-desk:~$ sudo dpkg -i wine_0.9.56-1_i386.deb [01:07] dpkg: erro ao processar wine_0.9.56-1_i386.deb (--install): [01:07] não pode aceder ao arquivo: Ficheiro ou directoria inexistente [01:07] Foram encontrados erros enquanto processava: [01:07] wine_0.9.56-1_i386.deb [01:07] ok [01:08] it says like...directory does not exist? [01:08] weird [01:08] yea [01:08] :S [01:08] help me [01:08] type sudo apt-get install wine [01:08] ok [01:08] and try installing the deb over it [01:08] i guess [01:08] it's hardy anyway it'll be a little broken. lol [01:09] installing the original wine will make it create the directory, i guess. then maybe installing the deb will work [01:09] oh mabe that cause i intalled the wine with synaptic but i unistalled to install these one [01:10] yea maybe [01:10] i think that package is a patch [01:10] or something [01:10] pray for me [01:10] :) [01:10] so you need original wine [01:10] lol [01:10] i will [01:11] no [01:11] it still give me the same error [01:12] after installing wine from repositories, then installing .deb? [01:12] yes i try to intall the .deb but give me the same error [01:12] weird [01:12] yea very [01:12] mine installed fine [01:12] my hardy had no wine [01:13] do i have to chage anything on configurations [01:13] but i didnt get an error at least after fixing i386->amd64 [01:13] ?? [01:13] i dont think so [01:13] i mean my Hardy was a clean install [01:13] nothing changed or configured [01:13] and the wine .deb installed for me [01:13] i didnt have repository wine [01:13] ok [01:13] as far as i know [01:13] i'm going to resatart the pc [01:14] alright [01:14] maybe that work [01:14] well i'm out of ideas, so maybe [01:14] wait here [01:14] you can try downloading .deb again [01:14] yeah i'll be here [01:14] i tryed for 5 times [01:14] i downloaded from filefront [01:14] so is not the download [01:14] ok [01:16] ola rpedro__ [01:17] ok i'm going to restart [01:24] it doen't work [01:24] damn [01:24] i dont know, dude [01:25] :'( [01:25] well the exact english error is "No such file or directory" [01:25] do you know anyother packege i can install that is .deb [01:26] to see if it the file [01:26] hmm [01:27] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/gcalctool/download [01:27] u can try that [01:31] it install that one [01:32] xtknght [01:33] xtknight [01:33] yeah [01:33] well [01:33] i'm not really sure what's wrong with the wine thing [01:33] and what was that [01:33] ?? [01:33] pedro, gcalctool installs, but i'm not sure why wine .deb doesn't [01:33] the error makes no sense to me [01:35] what is gcaltool [01:35] a calculator [01:35] it's already installed by default i think [01:39] xknight do you have tha link to the forum [01:39] ?? [01:39] i gave you [01:39] ?? [01:39] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4390655 [01:51] xtnight you know how to compile the souce [01:51] ?? [01:51] xtknight you know how to compile the souce [02:09] Where do I go for help with virt-manager? [02:18] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ <--launched check it out [02:18] I'm not seeing any IRC channel for virt-manager support.. [02:18] I've checked it out; I'll have to move my like 15 ideas from ideapool soon [02:19] anybody here virtualizing windows xp with virt-manager? [02:19] ethana2: Probably #ubuntu-server is the best place apart from here to ask about virt-manager. [02:19] ok [02:19] thank you [02:20] But feel free to ask here, too. [02:20] well [02:20] (You're yet to actually state your problem :)) [02:20] then I shall begin [02:20] I'm virtualizing windows xp to run Office, MSN, and WMP.. [02:21] what's virt manager [02:21] like xen? [02:21] like a gui [02:21] On top of Xen/Qemu/kvm [02:21] ...it makes using things like xen not insanely complicated [02:21] yes [02:21] ahh [02:21] but xen doesnt run on top of ubuntu does it [02:21] it can [02:21] oh really [02:21] I think so [02:22] You'd be looking for the various -xen kernels, yes. [02:22] ahh [02:22] anyway.. I installed xp from an .iso [02:22] xen is in the kernel isnt it :s [02:22] The nvidia drivers make those frequently FTBFS, but they do occasionally build :) [02:22] that I ripped from the xp install disk because the permissions were wrong to get to the actual drive [02:22] Right, so bug one :) [02:22] ...i don't know how to get access to the cd-rom without running in sude [02:22] sudo* [02:23] ./dev/cdrom [02:23] well, works for me :p [02:24] ethana2: Was that your problem? It sounded like there'd be more. [02:24] ok sorry [02:24] my mom started flipping out [02:25] That's cool. [02:25] because her touchpad under windows clicked [02:25] ...and she lost half an hour worth of work [02:25] my dad is a windows user, and I don't know why [02:25] /anyway/ [02:25] uh [02:25] ok... [02:25] oh yeah [02:25] I need the vm to be able to use the actual cd-rom drive [02:25] without running as root [02:26] maybe theres a cdrom group [02:26] Let me have a look at my setup... [02:26] I checked for that [02:26] didn't see it [02:26] if I can create one though, that'd be great [02:26] ya root owns cdrom [02:26] i guess you could re chown /dev/cdrom to cdrom but i dunno if theres a better way [02:26] running a vm as root sounds like a bad idea [02:27] ya it is [02:27] ok [02:27] so if the owner of /dev/cdrom is cdrom.. [02:27] then I'll have a group I can join? [02:28] ya i'm not sure if that's the best way or not [02:28] probably is [02:29] gahh [02:29] nope, fail [02:29] u have to logout [02:29] for users to join a group [02:29] ...oh [02:29] well I just changed the owner to me [02:29] same thing? [02:29] hmm dunno [02:30] that should take effect immediately [02:30] i think [02:30] but even if ur the owner [02:30] u need permissions [02:30] I'll make it a group [02:30] i guess you could 777 it... no idea how insecure that is but if you're desparate... [02:31] hmm [02:31] I would prefer to do this 'correctly' [02:31] I created a cdrom group.. [02:31] yeah [02:31] but when I went to chown the thing, it wouldn't let me [02:31] invalid user [02:31] u have to logout to craete groups maybe? [02:31] hmm [02:32] I think my problem was this: [02:32] cd drive didn't work unless I was root [02:32] networking didn't work unless I wasn't [02:32] You need to log back in to have access to the new groups. [02:32] ok [02:32] brb then [02:34] let's see.. [02:36] it is /not/ letting me make a cdrom group [02:36] even if I do have to log out, it should show me what it's going to be, right? [02:36] well, anything is more secure than running the vm as root [02:37] what did you say to do to the cd drive? [02:37] sudo chmod /dev/scd0 777 ? [02:37] 777 /dev/scd0 * [02:38] so i tried the alt cd of 8.04, and i still get that "freezing at loading boot scripts" issue that i had in 7.10. any ideas? [02:38] ethana2: That's because there already _is_ a cdrom group. You're not a member? [02:38] there is no such group on my sistem. [02:38] system** [02:39] ethana2: That's odd. Hm. [02:39] I changed permissions to 777 [02:39] virt-manager still won't let me use the drive [02:40] Yeah; I tried, and it doesn't seem to want to let me do it either. [02:41] I'd ask in #ubuntu-server, and file a bug. [02:58] ethana2 & RAOF, How can I make new virtual mashine with virt-manager? :S I don't have New in File menu, as it says in Help file :S [02:58] So, first you file a bug against the documentation, which is either wrong or unclear :) [03:00] Milos_SD: Then, you File->Connect -> local QEMU. [03:00] and then what? :) [03:00] Milos_SD: Then, there's a "new" button down the bottom of the window, which does what you awnt. [03:01] I get an error that some process is not started [03:01] Unable to open a connection to the libvirt management daemon. [03:01] Verify that: [03:01] - The 'libvirtd' daemon has been started [03:01] Right. Do you have libvirt-bin installed? [03:02] (Also, that error would have been a better way to open the conversation). [03:02] hey quick question, has i been mentioned if hardy will have a different compared to gutsy? i know theres tons of artwork out there, but alpha still looks the same as gutsy. do they plan to keep it that way? [03:03] prasanna: A different what? :) There's a new background, for example. [03:03] lol [03:03] prasanna, yes, it will be the same as Gutsy ... but major artwork changes are set for 8.10 [03:03] theme [03:03] oh I see [03:03] oh [03:03] I think they should pick 4 great themes: [03:04] nodoka, mint, studio, and human.. and ship hardy with all of them [03:04] oh well [03:04] milos, i assume this has been confirmed? [03:05] Nodoka's pretty cool, yeah. That's what I use. [03:05] don't know ... just read about it somewhere :) [03:06] RAOF, I have another problem, I can't enable kernel/hardware acceleration, but I have CPU that have VT support (Intel E6550) [03:08] Milos_SD: Hm. Try the command found in the output of "aptitude show kvm". It's possible you need to turn this support on in the bios, or that your particular chip doesn't have the extensions. [03:09] you do need to turn it on [03:09] On some bioses, yes. [03:09] on this Dell Latitude D830 C2D, yes [03:09] I have VT enabled in BIOS, and I have vme extension in /proc/cpuinfo [03:09] :) [03:10] Milos_SD: Presumably you mean "vmx", right? [03:10] yes, vmx :D [03:10] so, I just need to install kvm packege then? [03:11] You don't already have that installed? [03:12] no [03:12] Well, you won't get kvm without it installed :) [03:13] ok, thanks :) [03:23] RAOF, just one last question :D [03:23] Shoot [03:23] kvm want to install vgabios package: but in details for that package it says this: [03:23] WARNING: It is NOT meant to drive a physical vga card. You will probably [03:23] fry it if you try. You have been warned. [03:24] You're not trying to use it to drive a physical vga card. [03:24] what does it mean ... I can fry my video card by using qemu with vgabios enabled, or? [03:24] It means "If you flash the bios on your vga card with this code, it almost certainly won't work" [03:25] ok... thanks... so I understended that well :D [03:25] Yes. [03:27] speaking of flashing video card bios..would i need to flash my video card's BIOS to get it to default to output DVI at bootup? I attached a dvi-i connector to my dvi-i monitor, and it's using vga (looks kinda ugly as well). i guess i could use a dvi-d connector (if dvi even works at POST) [03:27] also uses vga with vesa driver which is interesting...but goesto dvi in nvidia [03:34] Could someone tell me if what versions of nvidia drivers are available in 8.04? [03:34] !info nvidia-glx hardy [03:34] nvidia-glx (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (2.6.24.9-10.28)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1:96.43.05+2.6.24.9-10.28 (hardy), package size 3761 kB, installed size 11992 kB [03:35] argh, no 169.04? [03:35] !info nvidia-glx-new [03:35] nvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (2.6.24.9-10.28)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 169.09+2.6.24.9-10.28 (hardy), package size 5124 kB, installed size 15232 kB [03:35] ah there we go [03:36] !info nvidia-glx-new gutsy [03:36] nvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (2.6.22.4-14.10)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB [03:53] When I install 7.10 or 8.04 A5 via the alt cd, I cannot get passed "Running local boot scripts." This seems to be a known problem. Anyone know the proper way to fix this? [03:54] It's on a new laptop, i'm thinking its an unsupported hardware issue. one of the guys had a unsupported keyboard that caused it. [03:56] !info g15render hardy [03:56] Package g15render does not exist in hardy [03:56] !info g15 hardy [03:56] Package g15 does not exist in hardy [03:56] !info libg15 hardy [03:56] Package libg15 does not exist in hardy [03:56] argh [03:56] alright, where do I file bugs for missing packages for hardy? I still have over a month to get these in there.... [03:58] ubotu is made for ubuntu 7.10 and lower. your package probably doesnt exist at all. did you search apt-get? [03:58] AtomicSpark: I explicity stated hardy, and I don't currently have Ubuntu installed. I'm debating whether or not to install it based on the existance of some required packages. [03:59] !botabuse | clinton [03:59] clinton: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. [03:59] aptitude search g15 gives the following: g15composer g15daemon g15daemon-audacious libg15-{1,dev} libg15daemon-client-{1,dev } libg15render{1,-dev} [03:59] DanaG: in hardy? [03:59] Yup. [03:59] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=libg15 [03:59] DanaG: ty [04:00] i have hardy [04:00] Dang, now I want a banana split. [04:00] DanaG, help me. D: [04:00] Speaking of netsplit. [04:00] Who's running the Kubuntu Alpha, how is it right now? [04:00] Booted without splash or quiet? [04:01] * AtomicSpark says "come on" [04:01] moderately stable or roll the dice stable? [04:01] it booted with splash. went to text. stoped at loading boot scripts. [04:01] live cd install has no splash, and will boot. i dont see why it should be different. [04:02] Hmm, also removed "quiet", of course? [04:02] i'm re-installing with live cd now. [04:02] what does quiet do? [04:02] Suppresses messages. [04:03] ah. i donno. some posts say the tty1-7 were wrong. i changed them. that didnt work. lol. i just dont get why the live cd install would be so different then the alt cd. :-\ should have same support/bugs. [04:04] oh well. no working splash or encrypted lvm for me. [04:04]