[06:42] <sdakak> Will ubuntu mobile work on T-mobile Dash / HTC S620 / Excalibur? It doesn't have touchscreen
[08:19] <dholbach> good morning
[11:09] <K-Fox> hi
[11:09] <K-Fox> is it possible to install ubuntu-mobile on n800
[11:10] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/FAQ
[11:10] <dholbach> (from the topic)
[15:02]  * agoliveira -> lunch and bank
[15:25] <mjg59> lool: Cheese is mostly dealt with. I've come up with some hacky widget rearrangement to avoid the need for a new .ui file, but I'd like you to check it over once I'm done
[15:26] <lool> mjg59: Okay
[15:42] <mjg59> lool: http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/cheese.diff
[15:43] <mjg59> lool: Urgh. Ignore the wscript_build hunk.
[15:55] <lool> mjg59: It seems really clean; nice work
[15:56] <lool> mjg59: So it only leaves the position of the photo list?
[15:56] <mjg59> lool: That gets shifted as well
[15:57] <lool> I mean it's #ifdefed on HILDON; what do you think of GConfing it?
[15:57] <mjg59> Oh, right. Hm.
[15:58] <lool> I think it's fine to send upstream as it
[15:58] <lool> is
[15:58] <mjg59> I'm not sure it would be terribly beneficial?
[15:58] <lool> It's just that I think the position of the photos are completely unrelated to hildon; just related to the orientation of your screen so to say
[15:58] <lool> But then this is only a suggestion; it's really fine like this
[15:59] <mjg59> On desktops, I think the default is fine
[15:59] <mjg59> It's really just an issue on space-restricted devices
[15:59] <lool> mjg59: Say we rotate the UI on the Q1
[15:59] <lool> And make it vertical when the device is rotated
[16:00] <mjg59> lool: At that point, I think cheese is the least of our concerns :)
[16:00] <lool> Haha
[16:00] <mjg59> My experience is that most hildon apps are heavily optimised for widescreen
[16:00] <lool> Well picture a Q1 turned the other way around ;)
[16:00] <lool> mjg59: Ok, nm then
[16:01] <lool> mjg59: I'd be happy to support inclusion of the patch when you send it upstream; can you ping me with the bug id when you have it?  :-)
[16:01] <mjg59> lool: #519548
[16:01] <lool> thanks
[17:57] <mjg59> lool: Ugh. hito seems to be in worse shape than I remembered
[18:04] <lool> mjg59: It should be in a good shape at the lib and openmoko levels
[18:04] <lool> mjg59: But the Gtk+ and Hildon ports are really completely obsolete upstream unfortunately
[18:05] <mjg59> lool: No, the library has no edit widget
[18:05] <mjg59> And the viewing widget is currently, well, failing to view
[18:08] <kdean06> What keyboard is being used on UME?
[18:11] <lool> mjg59: Ah; you can write thomas@o-hand.com to get more information on this
[18:11] <lool> Or Ross Burton, but Ross told me to see with Thomas
[18:11] <mjg59> Yeah
[18:12] <lool> I was told I should really run the hito branch, but didn't actually try it out
[18:12] <mjg59> Right, it seems to be the future
[18:13] <lool> mjg59: Sorry for putting you on a half broken track then; hopefully it's just intermediate breakage
[18:13] <mjg59> But possibly in kind of the same way as concrete was the future
[18:14] <agoliveira> kdean06: What do you mean by "what keyboard"?
[18:14] <lool> I think I read about an hito branch for dates or tasks, but I can't locate one for either of the two
[18:15] <kdean06> agoliveira, I'm wondering what kind of on-screen keyboard is used in a default image of UME.
[18:15] <mjg59> I'm chatting to Thomas now
[18:15] <lool> Cool
[18:15] <lool> mjg59: If useful information comes out, I'm a taker -- as always  ;)
[18:16] <agoliveira> kdean06: IIRC, matchbox keyboard
[18:16] <kdean06> Oh, okay. 
[18:16] <kdean06> Thank you.
[18:16] <agoliveira> My pleasure
[18:18]  * lool really wanders away for WE now; cheers!
[19:15] <GrueMaster> davidm: Ping
[19:16] <davidm> GrueMaster, how may I help you?
[19:17] <GrueMaster> Apparently, you put a private hardy build up on a wiki for Don Johnson?  I need to get that, but our rep for adding access is off-site until Monday.
[19:17] <GrueMaster> Is there any other way I can get that image?
[19:19] <davidm> Directly from Don, he has password access now.
[19:19] <davidm> And he has downloaded the files that are there
[19:19] <GrueMaster> I'll see if I can pry him out of his cube then.  
[19:19] <GrueMaster> Thanks
[19:20] <davidm> We can get access accounts for anyone within Intel, if I have email today, by Monday morning your time accounts will be active.  Just have Don drop me a line.
[19:21] <davidm> GrueMaster, you are welcome
[19:21] <GrueMaster> They wanted me to start testing on it today.  I'll just harass Don.  I've already sent an email to our internal contact for account access.
[19:21] <davidm> GrueMaster, that build indeed has private things in it. 
[19:21] <GrueMaster> ok.
[19:22] <davidm> The access to that private area is through me via Don
[19:22] <davidm> It's not the Intel/Canonical Wiki that we use for shared documentation
[19:22] <GrueMaster> Ok.
[19:22] <GrueMaster> I'll bug him then.
[19:22] <GrueMaster> Thanks.
[19:23] <davidm> You are welcome
[20:09] <sabotage> kyleN: ping