philphoto | evening folks. last night I was troubleshooting my excessive boot time & by simply shutting off services at boot i got the time from bios post to xubuntu login down to 47 seconds. I'm liking that much more than the 200 seconds it booted in previously. | 01:54 |
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philphoto | I'm still having the problem of my onboard wifi device intermittently disappearing on boot. | 01:55 |
philphoto | this happens on reboot after changing an ultrabay device (IBM T30) or also after the system completeing a big upgrade. on reboot after the dev has disappeared, the issue rectifies itself and wifi is back. | 01:57 |
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Breakage | hey, anyone know how to get gmrun to pickup urxvt or xfce terminal as default terminal to run term apps in? i've changed it to urxvt from gnome-terminal in .gmrunrc but urxvt loads the dissapears. anyone using gmrun? | 05:54 |
skull-DT | hi | 07:37 |
skull-DT | I have a question | 07:37 |
skull-DT | I have a old ibook g4 700mhz 128ram I decided to install Xubuntu for the low requirements and it worked fine. I decided to format the HD to install the latest version only to realize that the cdRom was busted. is there any other way to install xubuntu or am I screwd? | 07:37 |
ron_o | install over network.. | 07:40 |
ron_o | or internet | 07:40 |
ron_o | however, you still are required to have a cd-rom drive for that.. or some drive. Do you have a floppy? maybe that will work. | 07:41 |
skull-DT | nop | 07:41 |
skull-DT | thats the problem | 07:41 |
skull-DT | its an ibook so it only came with a cdrom | 07:41 |
skull-DT | thats it | 07:41 |
ron_o | you'll have to have some way of installing it on your harddrive or system. I think you're screwed. | 07:42 |
skull-DT | and since it only has 120 ram I had to use the Alternative CD | 07:42 |
ere4si | this might help - http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html | 07:42 |
ron_o | ask around. I really can't help. | 07:42 |
skull-DT | ok thanx ron | 07:42 |
skull-DT | let me check that link | 07:42 |
ron_o | ere4si, the problem is even if you he could try a network boot, but how? | 07:42 |
ron_o | he can't even install anything on his system or in RAM. | 07:43 |
ere4si | !I'd go for a usb stick set up on another comp | 07:43 |
ere4si | !realplayer | 07:43 |
ubotu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 07:43 |
skull-DT | hmmm | 07:44 |
ron_o | then network to that computer. However, I still won't know how he can get his computer to try anything. | 07:44 |
skull-DT | of course it is a power pc | 07:44 |
skull-DT | CPU | 07:44 |
ere4si | prob won't boot from usb... | 07:44 |
ron_o | not a chance. :) | 07:44 |
ron_o | :/ | 07:44 |
ere4si | it's a mac - just set it on fire :) | 07:44 |
skull-DT | well I just thought I would put it to office use | 07:45 |
ron_o | if you had another macintosh similar to that one then you might be able to get away with installing it on that machine then replacing harddrives.. | 07:45 |
ron_o | but who'd know how that would work out. | 07:45 |
skull-DT | true | 07:45 |
ron_o | it's all touch and go.. but at least with a Mac it might be able to configure itself to work on the new machine. | 07:46 |
ron_o | you could do that with Intel and linux, but you'd need to configure things manually which is quite hard. | 07:46 |
skull-DT | but its a power pc cpu, requires a special version | 07:47 |
ron_o | oh, wait.. duh.. you'd be using linux on the Mac. :/... you'd still have to configure things manually. | 07:47 |
ron_o | yah.. sorry skull-DT. I can't help you much. :/ | 07:47 |
skull-DT | yep | 07:47 |
skull-DT | thanx for trying man | 07:47 |
ron_o | get a new cdrom if it's worth it. | 07:48 |
skull-DT | the truth is that I dont even know if I can open this things | 07:48 |
ron_o | heh, yah.. I bet. | 07:48 |
skull-DT | thery are like sealed, have you seen one? | 07:48 |
ere4si | and gutsy doesn't support power pc | 07:48 |
skull-DT | yeah | 07:48 |
ron_o | I've seen some Macs that are sealed. | 07:49 |
skull-DT | it does | 07:49 |
ron_o | they were never meant to be messed around with. | 07:49 |
ere4si | thought I saw that on the ubuntu site | 07:49 |
skull-DT | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/ | 07:49 |
ere4si | k | 07:49 |
skull-DT | ppc version is right there | 07:49 |
ron_o | Good luck skull-DT ... nite | 07:49 |
skull-DT | ok bye | 07:49 |
skull-DT | oh well, I think I have the coles paper weight in the block thats for sure | 07:50 |
skull-DT | haha | 07:50 |
skull-DT | thanx guys | 07:50 |
skull-DT | appreciate the help | 07:50 |
ere4si | got a friend with an external cd drive? | 07:50 |
skull-DT | would that work | 07:51 |
skull-DT | ? | 07:51 |
skull-DT | I dont know much about macs | 07:52 |
skull-DT | so they boot from external drives? | 07:52 |
ere4si | if the mac can use it - I don't know anything about macs except they're overpriced and underpowered :) | 07:52 |
skull-DT | im not much of a fan ether but I have it, might as well try to put it to work | 07:53 |
ere4si | you might have to google about that | 07:53 |
ere4si | I'm all for using it if you have it | 07:53 |
skull-DT | because mac os sure ass hell did not work well I tell you that | 07:53 |
ere4si | :) = trying for humor | 07:54 |
ere4si | as an aside - why didn't you upgrade the old install? | 07:55 |
skull-DT | well actually that was the problem, I did try but the upgrade failed and screwd eveything up. so I had to format | 07:56 |
skull-DT | after the upgrade nothing worked even the display looked like crap | 07:56 |
skull-DT | so I decided to go for a fresh install | 07:57 |
ere4si | fair enough and a common enough prob that it should be looked into by those that offer these things | 07:58 |
skull-DT | to my surprise the cd rom died, so some files could not be red from the install cd | 07:58 |
skull-DT | yeah that would be cool | 07:58 |
ere4si | did you do the md5 check on the cd? | 07:58 |
skull-DT | yep | 07:58 |
skull-DT | 11 different cds man | 07:58 |
skull-DT | not only one | 07:58 |
skull-DT | burned in different machines and everything | 07:59 |
ere4si | was it burnt on another comp? - and at a slow speed e.g. 4x | 07:59 |
ere4si | k | 07:59 |
skull-DT | I did went for 4X a couple of times | 07:59 |
skull-DT | had to be the mac drive | 07:59 |
ere4si | all os's should be burnt at a very slow speed | 07:59 |
ere4si | gtg - bbl :) | 08:00 |
skull-DT | yeah | 08:00 |
skull-DT | I might do of thouse smash my Ibook and put it on youtube | 08:01 |
skull-DT | lol | 08:02 |
gynterk | what font does xubuntu logo use and where to get it ? | 08:16 |
Ven]n | hey, is nautilus a part of xubuntu? | 09:53 |
ere4si | Ven]n, no - xubuntu uses thunar - it is lighter on resources but still thorough | 09:58 |
Ven]n | yeah.. | 09:59 |
Ven]n | its just that i also have nautilus installed in my xubuntu | 09:59 |
ere4si | I like it :) | 09:59 |
Ven]n | but i guess it came from when i installed gnome-desktop-environment | 09:59 |
ere4si | yep it wouldhave | 09:59 |
Ven]n | so thats where it came from | 10:00 |
Ven]n | heh | 10:00 |
ere4si | :) | 10:00 |
Ven]n | gah.. probably alot that didnt get removed when i removed gnome-desktop | 10:00 |
ere4si | if you open synaptic package manager you can click an installed package and select to remove it and the other progs it needs will be shown - if xfce is not one then it might be safe to remove - if you've installed lots | 10:03 |
ere4si | and you can select cancel to not remove it | 10:04 |
Ven]n | good suggestion :p | 10:04 |
ere4si | it lets you search for dependencies and stuff :) | 10:04 |
* ere4si wonders what dramas bloodboy is having? | 10:11 | |
ceacy | Hi | 10:55 |
ceacy | I've got a problem under Xubuntu, with quodlibet (and dbus hotkeys) | 10:55 |
ceacy | it used to work, but i uninstalled a few packages, without any problem in dependencies, and now Quodlibet doesn't recognize my hotkeys anymore | 10:55 |
ceacy | unfortunately, i don't know which package is supposed to interact with the dbus system, in xfce | 10:55 |
TheSheep | python-dbus probably | 10:56 |
ceacy | I've already the latest version | 10:57 |
ceacy | oh, and quodlibet message is : | 10:57 |
ceacy | "DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service file" | 10:57 |
ceacy | (btw, the xfce hotkeys work fine ; it's just the quodlibet's dbusmmkeys plugin which fails) | 10:58 |
TheSheep | looks like it equires gconf | 10:59 |
TheSheep | requires | 10:59 |
ceacy | i just reinstalled it, but the error is stille the same : do i have to login/logout, in order for the changes to apply ? | 11:01 |
TheSheep | you shouldn't have to | 11:01 |
ceacy | well, gconfd isnow running : | 11:02 |
ceacy | ceacy 5095 0.0 0.1 5680 2752 ? S 11:45 0:00 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 | 11:02 |
ceacy | but the error still occurs | 11:02 |
TheSheep | I really don't know how gconf and other gnome apps organize these things | 11:03 |
ceacy | In the plugin script dbus*.py, this is the commentary : | 11:03 |
ceacy | # This plugin is needed for quod libet to handle multimedia keys properly in | 11:03 |
ceacy | # GNOME 2.18. gnome-settings-daemon grabs all keys and publish it as dbus | 11:03 |
ceacy | # signals, thus preventing applications like quod libet to grab the key | 11:03 |
TheSheep | maybe there is a gnome-settings-daemon package? | 11:03 |
ceacy | But i guess i never had gnome-control-center installed in xubuntu, so ... (gnome-settings-daemon is provided by gnome-control-center, if i remeber correctly) | 11:03 |
TheSheep | no, it's a deparate package | 11:04 |
TheSheep | !info gnome-settings-daemon | 11:04 |
ubotu | Package gnome-settings-daemon does not exist in gutsy | 11:04 |
TheSheep | at least in Hardy :/ | 11:04 |
ceacy | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=gnome-settings-daemon | 11:05 |
TheSheep | http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gnome-settings-daemonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gnome-settings-daemonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gnome-settings-daemon | 11:07 |
TheSheep | sorry | 11:07 |
TheSheep | ceacy: well, you've seen the code. It uses g-s-d. | 11:08 |
ceacy | yep | 11:08 |
ceacy | but i don't understand why it worked before, and not now | 11:08 |
TheSheep | no idea how it could have worked before, maybe earlier version of the plugin? | 11:08 |
ceacy | well, i'll install gnome-control-center, just to see | 11:08 |
ceacy | (don't think so : i'm brand new to xubuntu, i installed it yesterday ; it worked this night ; i removed packages this morning :p) | 11:09 |
ceacy | Thank you, anyway ! | 11:10 |
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Altelier | Hello everyone, anyone knows how to add/change a mime type icon on xfce? | 13:09 |
TheSheep | Altelier: yes | 13:10 |
Altelier | Is it hard? | 13:11 |
TheSheep | no | 13:11 |
Altelier | Could you explain it to me? | 13:11 |
TheSheep | Altelier: yes :) | 13:11 |
TheSheep | Altelier: you just put it in your /.icons/hicolor/<size>/mimetypes | 13:12 |
TheSheep | with apropriate name | 13:12 |
TheSheep | so, an icon for text/plain would be called text-plain | 13:12 |
Altelier | Size will be the icon size right? | 13:13 |
TheSheep | see /usr/share/icons/gnome/<size>/mimetypes for some examples | 13:13 |
TheSheep | yes, like 48x48 or scalable | 13:13 |
TheSheep | the system will pick the icon that is closest in size to the required | 13:14 |
Altelier | So for an application/x-cbr | 13:15 |
Altelier | I should put a x-cbr , right? | 13:15 |
TheSheep | I think it's application-x-cbr | 13:16 |
Altelier | Ok I'll try | 13:16 |
Altelier | Does it need to restart the windows manager? | 13:17 |
TheSheep | the problem is, cbr and cbz will be recognized as application/x-rar and application/x-zip, respectively | 13:17 |
TheSheep | or archive/rar and archive/zip | 13:17 |
TheSheep | not sure | 13:17 |
TheSheep | ah, no, it's fixed | 13:18 |
TheSheep | cool! | 13:18 |
TheSheep | I can now us my thumbnailer on them! | 13:19 |
Altelier | Yes its fixed | 13:19 |
Altelier | That's why I asked | 13:19 |
TheSheep | that's great news | 13:19 |
TheSheep | you think they will also fix .gbc.zip and .gba.zip? :) | 13:20 |
Altelier | Will be an improvement for sure | 13:21 |
Altelier | I think that should be fixed too | 13:22 |
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Altelier | TheSheep, thank you, it worked fine ^^ | 13:52 |
TheSheep | great | 13:53 |
* TheSheep reuses the 'irc chat' icon | 13:53 | |
ere4si | !ping | 15:03 |
ubotu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 15:03 |
ere4si | !pong | 15:03 |
ubotu | pong is an old atari game. It's fun! | 15:03 |
jarnos | I just had my pc freeze using gqview. Actually 100% of CPU power was used and best that I could alt-sysRq-s alt-sysRq-u alt-sysRq-b | 15:05 |
jarnos | ^best that I could do to reboot | 15:06 |
jarnos | was | 15:06 |
ere4si | !gqview | 15:11 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about gqview - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 15:11 |
ere4si | jarnos: installed from source? | 15:12 |
ere4si | !gtkrc | 15:12 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkrc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 15:12 |
jarnos | No, from repository. | 15:13 |
jarnos | ere4si: No, from repository. | 15:13 |
ere4si | jarnos: from the bot gqview isn't in the repos - what version are you using? | 15:13 |
ere4si | the bot works of gutsy atm | 15:14 |
jarnos | ere4si: 2.0.4-0ubuntu1, I am using Gutsy | 15:15 |
ere4si | !info gqview | 15:16 |
ubotu | gqview (source: gqview): A simple image viewer using GTK+. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 454 kB, installed size 2676 kB | 15:16 |
ere4si | k | 15:16 |
ere4si | jarnos, that rules out dependencies :) | 15:16 |
jarnos | ere4si: what do you mean? | 15:17 |
ere4si | jarnos, if you didn't have a needed lib that might have ramped cpu while it searched - but as a xubuntu package all dependencies are taken care of | 15:19 |
jarnos | ere4si: I see. | 15:19 |
ere4si | jarnos, simple solutions first in my book :) | 15:19 |
ere4si | jarnos: can you type gqview in a terminal and check any output ? | 15:21 |
tomd123 | does anyone know of an applet kind of like the weather one for the network? I would like to be able to view my total bandwidth usage with in the past 24 hours. Any suggestinos would be appreciated :P | 15:22 |
ere4si | tomd123, there is a network applet that shows real time usage - right click the panel - for usage over a day...not that I know | 15:24 |
jarnos | I tried to rename a file in gqview when the window was maximized and tried to move the window right because I couldn't get the name visible. I can't reproduce the crash. | 15:25 |
jarnos | ere4si: I started it now from terminal and no text there. | 15:26 |
ere4si | jarnos, k - might have been a mem address issue at that moment or something similar - s#$% happens | 15:27 |
ere4si | :) | 15:27 |
jarnos | ere4si: There is a bug in gqview anyway. It didn't show the rename field wholly. | 15:28 |
ere4si | jarnos, there are other image viewers as well | 15:29 |
LeAstrale | wow a lot of activity in here :) | 15:33 |
ere4si | people use - people ask - people answer - stuff happens :) | 15:34 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: still a little more than usual, dont you think so ? | 15:34 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, yep - that's why I spend time here trying to help - can be like a desert sometimes except for TheSheep and others | 15:36 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: ahh The trigger happy Sheep :P | 15:36 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, that bloke should have a wage :) | 15:37 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: i think most people using Xubuntu actually goes to the #ubuntu channel. | 15:37 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: he banned me some days ago because i accidentally posted a link to a website in the wrong tab in Konversation | 15:38 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, they might get a complex if they only asked here :) | 15:38 |
ere4si | oops to you hen | 15:38 |
ere4si | *then :) | 15:38 |
LeAstrale | i meant to post in #ubuntuforums-beginners but i accidentally wrote it in here instead | 15:38 |
LeAstrale | thats were i usually feel at home | 15:38 |
ere4si | He's young - he'll get over it | 15:38 |
LeAstrale | heh.. i guess so | 15:39 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: do you know much about wifi ? | 15:39 |
ere4si | didn't know there was a #ubuntu-forums-beginners | 15:39 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, never use it - found a linux distro that will crack any wifi security so... | 15:40 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: its for the Ubuntu Forums beginners team | 15:41 |
LeAstrale | generally a very helpful channel :) | 15:41 |
LeAstrale | and very universal | 15:41 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: i wasn't talking about wifi security.. just getting it to work on Xubuntu | 15:42 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, I don't use it - link is all I know | 15:42 |
ere4si | !wireless | 15:42 |
ubotu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 15:42 |
ere4si | sorry | 15:42 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: no need to sorry :) | 15:42 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, I like to help but for wireless that's all I know :) | 15:43 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: im considering pulling cables througout the house to get rid of the wireless aspect of my network | 15:43 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, my whole house runs wires for 5 comps - the only way imho | 15:44 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: yes it is.. wireless is just no good for the backup solution im making here | 15:44 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, speed was my reasoning | 15:45 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: speed and stability is the reason of Linux in general (and ethernet btw) | 15:46 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, can't get gigabit wireless anywhere... | 15:46 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, wireless is new and trendy but slow and insecure | 15:47 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: do you have a huge RAID array since you're considering gigabit ? | 15:47 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, no - but transfer 700mb files regularly | 15:48 |
LeAstrale | to fully use a one gigabit LAN line you would need to have disc setups capable of 128MB/s reading | 15:48 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: on a regurlar HDD you won't note the difference | 15:48 |
LeAstrale | between 100mbit and 1000mbit | 15:49 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, noticed the diff going from 10/100 to gigabit | 15:49 |
LeAstrale | it cant have been much | 15:49 |
LeAstrale | because a regurlar desktop disc has read speeds about 35MB/s and write at some 20MB/S | 15:50 |
ere4si | from nearly 2 min to 30 sec for 700 mb | 15:50 |
ere4si | onboard lan to nic cards | 15:50 |
LeAstrale | if you had a RAID Array of 4 discs like i have you would however note the difference between 100mbit and gigabit | 15:51 |
ere4si | raid in linux is still immature | 15:51 |
LeAstrale | that is if the host has the same amount | 15:51 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: RAID isn't inmature... it has always been meant to be made in Hardware to get the true performance | 15:51 |
LeAstrale | i have a pretty expensive Raid card with 8 IDE slots in it | 15:52 |
ere4si | and linux works best with software raid | 15:52 |
LeAstrale | i got 4 7,200 rpm discs right now | 15:52 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: a good hw raid the OS wont even now exists.. | 15:52 |
ere4si | k - don't need it atm | 15:52 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: im fiddling with it for the backup solution ;) | 15:53 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, it's great for that | 15:53 |
LeAstrale | yes with the redundancy and everything :) | 15:53 |
LeAstrale | i got a RAID 5.. | 15:54 |
LeAstrale | and i tested it manually some time ago by just unplugging a cable while the server was running... it just kept going.. a little box popped up about a HDD failure that i needed to replace ASAP | 15:55 |
LeAstrale | and when i plugged the cable back in the disc it ran a consistency check and then integrated it into the RAID array again | 15:55 |
LeAstrale | that was a nice feeling :) | 15:55 |
LeAstrale | hmm... i think ill take a nab.. nice taking to you ere4si | 15:58 |
LeAstrale | ttyl | 15:58 |
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tech404 | so I have just installed xubuntu-desktop... now I need to remove all my old gnome stuff.. I thought that removing ubuntu-desktop followed by autoremove'ing would do the job but it seems to have missed quite a bit... any ideas on the best way to make this happen? | 17:10 |
nazdalf | hello ppl....i hav xubuntu 7.10 and the screenlock has ceased to work.....it has xscreensaver-gl installed in linux...can some1 pls help me with it.... | 18:12 |
TheSheep | I thought that 7.10 used gnome-screensaver | 18:13 |
nazdalf | well probably ubuntu does...i have xubuntu | 18:13 |
nazdalf | well....can ne1 tell me why my screenlock stopped working on xubuntu.......did ne1 else not get the same problem?? | 18:21 |
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zoredache | look at the autostarted applications and see if the screen saver is listed there | 18:25 |
nazdalf | zoredache: no it is not.... | 18:28 |
zoredache | nazdalf: try running the command sudo apt-get install gnome-screensaver xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl | 18:32 |
zoredache | if that is installed then make a new autostarted application.. the name and program should be 'gnome-screensaver | 18:34 |
nazdalf | zoredache: oops....i ws wrong....turns out gnome screensaver is instald on my system..... | 18:36 |
nazdalf | zoredache: the other two packages are installed as well..... | 18:37 |
nazdalf | zoredache: i ll do the autostarted thingy.... | 18:37 |
nazdalf | zoredache: its wrking now!! thanks a lot!! ....i ws trying to get it to run by 'xscreensaver-gl' since yest....lollll | 18:44 |
zoredache | your welcome | 18:47 |
nicolah | will xubuntu hardy heron use xfce 4.4.2 ? | 19:01 |
TheSheep | nicolah: yes, it will use 4.4.2 the same as Gutsy | 19:14 |
nicolah | gutsy did ? so the bug about the usb stick removal and the trash will remain | 19:15 |
nicolah | d'oh | 19:15 |
nicolah | thanks for the answer | 19:15 |
TheSheep | nicolah: if the bug was reported, it will probably be fixed | 19:15 |
nicolah | now I can't find the page but it was well reported | 19:16 |
nicolah | thunar daemon wouldn't let unmount a usb stick | 19:16 |
TheSheep | nicolah: it definitely doesn't happen for me | 19:16 |
TheSheep | nicolah: so I guess it's fixed | 19:16 |
nicolah | TheSheep: I'm installing hardy heron and I'll try | 19:17 |
nicolah | I don't really care about that bug but being my girlfriend laptop it's pretty annoying | 19:17 |
TheSheep | yeah, I can imagine that being a laptop can be annaoying if you don't have apropriate features | 19:18 |
TheSheep | like a keyboard and a display, for example | 19:18 |
nicolah | as far as the trash in removal drive ? | 19:18 |
nicolah | will it still create a .trash folder and never delete it ? | 19:19 |
TheSheep | nicolah: I think that's what the standard specification says | 19:19 |
nicolah | the standard specification says it's cool getting usb device full withouth even being prompted to empy the trash ? | 19:20 |
TheSheep | you can read it at http://freedesktop.org | 19:21 |
nicolah | well I mean I *love* xfce but gnome at least prompt for emptying the trash when umounting a usb drive | 19:22 |
TheSheep | it would be pretty annoying to me | 19:23 |
nicolah | assuming your hidden files are not showed, what do you do when your usb device is full and you don't even know why ? | 19:24 |
TheSheep | I empty the trash | 19:26 |
nicolah | which one ? | 19:28 |
gabkdlly | doesn't thunar automatically remove files from the trash if you run out of space? | 19:28 |
nicolah | never happened, btw I'll test | 19:29 |
TheSheep | gabkdlly: no, as far as I know | 19:30 |
TheSheep | gabkdlly: thunar won't ever remove anything it didn't create | 19:31 |
TheSheep | gabkdlly: without an explicit command | 19:31 |
gabkdlly | well, I usually remove stuff on the command line if I don't want it to hang out in the trash | 19:32 |
gabkdlly | but I can see how it would be a pain if you are used to doing that with a GUI | 19:33 |
TheSheep | gabkdlly: just hold down shift if you want to remove permanently | 19:34 |
gabkdlly | oh, that's handy to know, thanks :) | 19:34 |
TheSheep | sigh, it's in the manual :) | 19:35 |
gabkdlly | TheSheep: I am actually not seeing it in the F1 help manual. Maybe I should file a bug. | 19:48 |
qsrv | hi | 21:02 |
ere4si | !hi | 21:02 |
ubotu | Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 21:02 |
qsrv | has anyone had problems with brasero freezing when burning audio cds? | 21:02 |
qsrv | it freezes for something like 5 minutes | 21:02 |
qsrv | then starts burning the cd | 21:02 |
ere4si | I don't use iy - sorry | 21:03 |
ere4si | *it | 21:03 |
qsrv | what do you use to burn data and audio discs? | 21:03 |
ere4si | k3b | 21:03 |
ere4si | it's the most recommended | 21:03 |
zoredache | for data disks I use cdrecord directly... I don't make audio disks... | 21:04 |
qsrv | hm | 21:06 |
qsrv | k3b depends on KDE, so it's not an option - I'm running on a rather limited system | 21:06 |
ere4si | it will load some dependencies but not all - won't load kde | 21:07 |
ere4si | !vino | 21:17 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about vino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 21:17 |
Shinjin | Is .msi a linux file extension? | 21:18 |
ere4si | that's a windows installer file - no good in xubuntu | 21:24 |
Shinjin | Okay | 21:24 |
ere4si | MicroSoft Installer | 21:24 |
ere4si | !version | 21:30 |
ubotu | To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell | 21:30 |
ere4si | !sensors | 22:07 |
ubotu | You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto | 22:07 |
Mikademus | Anybody who knows why my 64-bit 7.10 live CD won't boot on my Core 2 Duo? | 22:07 |
Mikademus | I get to the "Kernal is alive" message, then the monitor turns off and nothing happens | 22:09 |
ere4si | what's the brand and model pls - helps with a google search | 22:09 |
Mikademus | e6600 2.4ghz | 22:09 |
Mikademus | Intel | 22:09 |
Mikademus | I have Googled for 2 days :-/ | 22:10 |
Mikademus | Am new to Linux, and want to switch from Windows, but I just run into obstacles | 22:10 |
ere4si | and the brand? - toshiba acer... | 22:11 |
Mikademus | Ah, home built. Not a laptop | 22:11 |
Mikademus | Desktop computer | 22:11 |
ere4si | k - m/board maker and model? | 22:11 |
ere4si | and vid card | 22:11 |
Mikademus | MB is an Abit DH7-Deluxe, Video is ATI Radeon X850X | 22:12 |
ere4si | k - brb | 22:13 |
Mikademus | Sorry, Asus | 22:13 |
Mikademus | Hold, I gave you the name of the wrong MB | 22:15 |
Mikademus | Sorry | 22:15 |
Mikademus | It is Asus P5W DH-Deluxe, I mixed it up with my old one | 22:15 |
* Mikademus feels like a n3wblar | 22:16 | |
ere4si | ok - seems there is no issues with that setup so maybe the cd - did you do the md5 check on it? - did you burn it at a slow speed? | 22:18 |
Mikademus | On slow speed, yes, I haven't done the MD5 check, but I have exactly the same issue with the 64-bit Ubunto LiveCD I also tried | 22:20 |
Mikademus | Are there some "safe mode" or similar parameters I can switch on, since I get to the boot loader? | 22:21 |
ere4si | press F6 I think | 22:21 |
ere4si | this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376713 - talks about the success people have with the core 2 | 22:22 |
Mikademus | Ok, thanks, will read the thread. F6 is the key to enable options, but I have no clue *which* options to set... I'm quite virgin in the ways of *nix | 22:22 |
Mikademus | Thing is, I really want to run a Xubunto install, pereferably 64-bit, but it won't boot at all, and the i386 version fails on 15% of installation, which apparently is a quite common problem | 22:24 |
ere4si | been so long since I ran the live cd - there is an option for safe graphics | 22:24 |
Mikademus | So the GFX is a common source of issues? | 22:24 |
ere4si | not from what I read - that's why I asked about the cd | 22:25 |
ere4si | is your burner oldish? | 22:25 |
ere4si | I had lots of dramas with burnt cds then tried an os burn on another comp and it worked - seems the one drive was on its' way out | 22:26 |
ere4si | wasted alot of cds finding that out... | 22:27 |
Mikademus | Well, it is not very old, but it's still worth checking. I'll simply do the MD5 test in the installer. | 22:28 |
Mikademus | Btw, I always burn with "verify data" on, just for that reason. | 22:28 |
Mikademus | Still, your experience sounds like a bummer too... :P | 22:29 |
ere4si | I've got a large stack of coasters - something to be aware of... | 22:32 |
Mikademus | Bah, I'd gladly waste a few CDs if I could get the 64 bit version to install | 22:35 |
Mikademus | ;) | 22:35 |
ere4si | the 64 bit is troublesome from what people are saying - needs work to get apps happn'n 'cause they're 32bit written etc | 22:40 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: discussing 64bit atm are we ? | 22:46 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, and booting probs with it... | 22:46 |
LeAstrale | with the 64bit :O ? | 22:47 |
LeAstrale | i haven't had any such at all with Xubuntu | 22:47 |
LeAstrale | except when i played around with alpha 3 | 22:47 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: i have updated my wireless thread now :) | 22:47 |
LeAstrale | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4403380#post4403380 | 22:47 |
LeAstrale | please take a look at the above thread if you have knowledge in wireless under Xubuntu | 22:47 |
Mikademus | LeAstrale, aye, booting probs with the 64bit Ubuntu and Xubunto LiveCDs on a Core2Due | 22:48 |
ere4si | LeAstrale, I don't do wireless - sorry :) | 22:48 |
Mikademus | And the i386 version won't get past the lockup at 15% done problem | 22:49 |
LeAstrale | ere4si: i know it was just so that i could post it out load in here if anyone had any ideas | 22:49 |
LeAstrale | Mikademus: tried the alternate discs ? | 22:49 |
Mikademus | No, I haven't, as I understand the main difference is the installer program? | 22:56 |
LeAstrale | Mikademus: yes.. which could solve your 15% issues of the install... i have however heard of cases where that step took extremely long time | 22:57 |
Mikademus | I searched and found some threads where the 15% issue was discussed, and it seems to be a relatively common if not directly widespread issue | 23:00 |
Mikademus | So the i386 install issue is not isolated to my particular config | 23:00 |
LeAstrale | Mikademus: i would however recommend you download the alternate.. its not that different.. a little harder to partitionate that should be the only thing | 23:01 |
LeAstrale | Mikademus: i dont know | 23:01 |
Mikademus | Well, I'll give the alternative a try. I just wish I had some rewriteable CDs :) | 23:01 |
LeAstrale | how do i format my WD external HDD from within Kubuntu ? | 23:02 |
zoredache | well if you are a cli type person you would drop down to a shell, then use something like 'sudo cfdisk' to make your partitions, followed by something like 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdnn' | 23:03 |
Mikademus | Alternative 64 bit gibbon on its way. Thank the Powers for a reasonably broad band, though a band broad would be adequate too. Anyway, wish me luck with this version. | 23:09 |
LeAstrale | zoredache: and if i would like it with a smaller NTFS partition on it (which should hold the driver to access EXT3 from windows) | 23:10 |
Mikademus | I have a nagging feeling Shub-Nuggorath don't want me to leave the dark side | 23:10 |
uno | hey | 23:11 |
ere4si | my cows eat hay :) | 23:12 |
uno | when i tried to burn xubuntu to a cd it didnt work it had 3 errors... and i really dont want to keep waisting cd's so is there any way to boot from an external hdd to install xubuntu on my internal hdd? | 23:12 |
zoredache | uno: there are ways, but they are tricky... | 23:14 |
bitform | did you verify the MD5 of your ISO image? | 23:14 |
zoredache | !install | uno | 23:14 |
ubotu | uno: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 23:14 |
ere4si | !cisco | 23:20 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about cisco - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 23:20 |
Mikademus | !sillywordgame | 23:24 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about sillywordgame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 23:24 |
Mikademus | Ok, here goes. Wish me luck. Mikademus signing off | 23:32 |
ere4si | k lol | 23:33 |
beautifulsnow | Hello, I would like to know to trim my dekstop down to the core, I mean, I don't want games, extra applications, etc etc, just the core (like with kde, you can have kde core.. if that makes any sense...).... anyone know how to | 23:38 |
ere4si | I used this and am impressed - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal | 23:40 |
ere4si | but you can open synaptic and select packages to remove | 23:41 |
beautifulsnow | man, that site seems to have everything I need >_> *thumbs up* | 23:42 |
ere4si | using fluxbox I halved mem usage and saved a third of the disk space used by the "normal" install :) | 23:43 |
beautifulsnow | Yes, that's what I'd like to do too :) | 23:44 |
beautifulsnow | See, I just installed Ubuntu a week ago, and I'm using 40Gb on my hard drive already. | 23:47 |
ere4si | next I'm using the server install and flux to see if hd space is further reduced | 23:47 |
beautifulsnow | Granted, 10Gb is for virtual box ;) | 23:48 |
ere4si | 40G - how - avi's? | 23:48 |
ere4si | k | 23:48 |
beautifulsnow | No. I have an external hard drive that I use for media | 23:48 |
ere4si | what uses the 30G? | 23:48 |
beautifulsnow | You tell me :P | 23:48 |
ere4si | ??? | 23:49 |
beautifulsnow | OOPS sorry, thats 35gb total, not 40 ;p | 23:49 |
ere4si | doesn't seem right... | 23:49 |
ere4si | still | 23:49 |
beautifulsnow | yeah | 23:49 |
beautifulsnow | Too bad I already love my setup too much, or I'd do a barebones install ;___; | 23:50 |
beautifulsnow | Maybe saving my home folder would be enough? :-/ | 23:50 |
ere4si | I set up with 5G for / and the rest for /home - the / uses 1.2G | 23:50 |
beautifulsnow | Lovely | 23:51 |
* beautifulsnow ponders | 23:51 | |
ere4si | yep - with a /home you can reinstall and keep data and most settings - e.g. firefox has a .firefox folder in /home with your bookmarks etc in | 23:52 |
* beautifulsnow starts making a list of the programs she will want to install ^____^ | 23:52 | |
beautifulsnow | Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, if I reinstall, and keep my /home, I should be ok, no? | 23:52 |
ere4si | I do that - don't upgrade but reinstalll so my /home is great idea for me :) | 23:53 |
beautifulsnow | I forgot to make a /home partition, been using Linux on and off since '97, I should know better >_> | 23:54 |
ere4si | I've gone from dapper to gutsy with same /home partition | 23:54 |
ere4si | well - it's got to be on its' own partition - you can install a window manager that is light then start removing apps | 23:55 |
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