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philphotoevening folks.  last night I was troubleshooting my excessive boot time & by simply shutting off services at boot i got the time from bios post to xubuntu login down to 47 seconds.  I'm liking that much more than the 200 seconds it booted in previously.01:54
philphotoI'm still having the problem of my onboard wifi device intermittently disappearing on boot.01:55
philphotothis happens on reboot after changing an ultrabay device (IBM T30) or also after the system completeing a big upgrade.  on reboot after the dev has disappeared, the issue rectifies itself and wifi is back.01:57
=== tuna-fish is now known as tuna
Breakagehey, anyone know how to get gmrun to pickup urxvt or xfce terminal as default terminal to run term apps in? i've changed it to urxvt from gnome-terminal in .gmrunrc but urxvt loads the dissapears. anyone using gmrun?05:54
skull-DThi07:37
skull-DTI have a question07:37
skull-DTI have a old ibook g4 700mhz  128ram I decided to install Xubuntu for the low requirements and it worked fine. I decided to format the HD to install the latest version only to realize that the cdRom was busted. is there any other way to install xubuntu or am I screwd?07:37
ron_oinstall over network..07:40
ron_oor internet07:40
ron_ohowever, you still are required to have a cd-rom drive for that.. or some drive. Do you have a floppy? maybe that will work.07:41
skull-DTnop07:41
skull-DTthats the problem07:41
skull-DTits an ibook so it only came with a cdrom07:41
skull-DTthats it07:41
ron_oyou'll have to have some way of installing it on your harddrive or system. I think you're screwed.07:42
skull-DTand since it only has 120 ram I had to use the Alternative CD07:42
ere4sithis might help - http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html07:42
ron_oask around. I really can't help.07:42
skull-DTok thanx ron07:42
skull-DTlet me check that link07:42
ron_oere4si, the problem is even if you he could try a network boot, but how?07:42
ron_ohe can't even install anything on his system or in RAM.07:43
ere4si!I'd go for a usb stick set up on another comp07:43
ere4si!realplayer07:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:43
skull-DThmmm07:44
ron_othen network to that computer. However, I still won't know how he can get his computer to try anything.07:44
skull-DTof course it is a power pc07:44
skull-DTCPU07:44
ere4siprob won't boot from usb...07:44
ron_onot a chance. :)07:44
ron_o:/07:44
ere4siit's a mac - just set it on fire :)07:44
skull-DTwell I just thought I would put it to office use07:45
ron_oif you had another macintosh similar to that one then you might be able to get away with installing it on that machine then replacing harddrives..07:45
ron_obut who'd know how that would work out.07:45
skull-DTtrue07:45
ron_oit's all touch and go.. but at least with a Mac it might be able to configure itself to work on the new machine.07:46
ron_oyou could do that with Intel and linux, but you'd need to configure things manually which is quite hard.07:46
skull-DTbut its a power pc cpu, requires a special version07:47
ron_ooh, wait.. duh.. you'd be using linux on the Mac. :/... you'd still have to configure things manually.07:47
ron_oyah.. sorry skull-DT. I can't help you much. :/07:47
skull-DTyep07:47
skull-DTthanx for trying man07:47
ron_oget a new cdrom if it's worth it.07:48
skull-DTthe truth is that I dont even know if I can open this things07:48
ron_oheh, yah.. I bet.07:48
skull-DTthery are like sealed, have you seen one?07:48
ere4siand gutsy doesn't support power pc07:48
skull-DTyeah07:48
ron_oI've seen some Macs that are sealed.07:49
skull-DTit does07:49
ron_othey were never meant to be messed around with.07:49
ere4sithought I saw that on the ubuntu site07:49
skull-DThttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/07:49
ere4sik07:49
skull-DTppc version is right there07:49
ron_oGood luck skull-DT ... nite07:49
skull-DTok bye07:49
skull-DToh well, I think I have the coles paper weight in the block thats for sure07:50
skull-DThaha07:50
skull-DTthanx guys07:50
skull-DTappreciate the help07:50
ere4sigot a friend with an external cd drive?07:50
skull-DTwould that work07:51
skull-DT?07:51
skull-DTI dont know much about macs07:52
skull-DTso they boot from external drives?07:52
ere4siif the mac can use it - I don't know anything about macs except they're overpriced and underpowered :)07:52
skull-DTim not much of a fan ether but I have it, might as well try to put it to work07:53
ere4siyou might have to google about that07:53
ere4siI'm all for using it if you have it07:53
skull-DTbecause mac os sure ass hell did not work well I tell you that07:53
ere4si:) = trying for humor07:54
ere4sias an aside - why didn't you upgrade the old install?07:55
skull-DTwell actually that was the problem, I did try but the upgrade failed and screwd eveything up. so I had to format07:56
skull-DTafter the upgrade nothing worked even the display looked like crap07:56
skull-DTso I decided to go for a fresh install07:57
ere4sifair enough and a common enough prob that it should be looked into by those that offer these things07:58
skull-DTto my surprise the cd rom died, so some files could not be red from the install cd07:58
skull-DTyeah that would be cool07:58
ere4sidid you do the md5 check on the cd?07:58
skull-DTyep07:58
skull-DT11 different cds man07:58
skull-DTnot only one07:58
skull-DTburned in different machines and everything07:59
ere4siwas it burnt on another comp? - and at a slow speed e.g. 4x07:59
ere4sik07:59
skull-DTI did went for 4X a couple of times07:59
skull-DThad to be the mac drive07:59
ere4siall os's should be burnt at a very slow speed07:59
ere4sigtg - bbl :)08:00
skull-DTyeah08:00
skull-DTI might do of thouse smash my Ibook and put it on youtube08:01
skull-DTlol08:02
gynterkwhat font does xubuntu logo use and where to get it ?08:16
Ven]nhey, is nautilus a part of xubuntu?09:53
ere4siVen]n, no - xubuntu uses thunar - it is lighter on resources but still thorough09:58
Ven]nyeah..09:59
Ven]nits just that i also have nautilus installed in my xubuntu09:59
ere4siI like it :)09:59
Ven]nbut i guess it came from when i installed gnome-desktop-environment09:59
ere4siyep it wouldhave09:59
Ven]nso thats where it came from10:00
Ven]nheh10:00
ere4si:)10:00
Ven]ngah.. probably alot that didnt get removed when i removed gnome-desktop10:00
ere4siif you open synaptic package manager you can click an installed package and select to remove it and the other progs it needs will be shown - if xfce is not one then it might be safe to remove - if you've installed lots10:03
ere4siand you can select cancel to not remove it10:04
Ven]ngood suggestion :p10:04
ere4siit lets you search for dependencies and stuff :)10:04
* ere4si wonders what dramas bloodboy is having?10:11
ceacyHi10:55
ceacyI've got a problem under Xubuntu, with quodlibet (and dbus hotkeys)10:55
ceacyit used to work, but i uninstalled a few packages, without any problem in dependencies, and now Quodlibet doesn't recognize my hotkeys anymore10:55
ceacyunfortunately, i don't know which package is supposed to interact with the dbus system, in xfce10:55
TheSheeppython-dbus probably10:56
ceacyI've already the latest version10:57
ceacyoh, and quodlibet message is :10:57
ceacy"DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service file"10:57
ceacy(btw, the xfce hotkeys work fine ; it's just the quodlibet's dbusmmkeys plugin which fails)10:58
TheSheeplooks like it equires gconf10:59
TheSheeprequires10:59
ceacyi just reinstalled it, but the error is stille the same : do i have to login/logout, in order for the changes to apply ?11:01
TheSheepyou shouldn't have to11:01
ceacywell, gconfd isnow running :11:02
ceacyceacy     5095  0.0  0.1   5680  2752 ?        S    11:45   0:00 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-211:02
ceacybut the error still occurs11:02
TheSheepI really don't know how gconf and other gnome apps organize these things11:03
ceacyIn the plugin script dbus*.py, this is the commentary :11:03
ceacy# This plugin is needed for quod libet to handle multimedia keys properly in11:03
ceacy# GNOME 2.18. gnome-settings-daemon grabs all keys and publish it as dbus11:03
ceacy# signals, thus preventing applications like quod libet to grab the key11:03
TheSheepmaybe there is a gnome-settings-daemon package?11:03
ceacyBut i guess i never had gnome-control-center installed in xubuntu, so ... (gnome-settings-daemon is provided by gnome-control-center, if i remeber correctly)11:03
TheSheepno, it's a deparate package11:04
TheSheep!info gnome-settings-daemon11:04
ubotuPackage gnome-settings-daemon does not exist in gutsy11:04
TheSheepat least in Hardy :/11:04
ceacyhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=gnome-settings-daemon11:05
TheSheephttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gnome-settings-daemonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gnome-settings-daemonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gnome-settings-daemon11:07
TheSheepsorry11:07
TheSheepceacy: well, you've seen the code. It uses g-s-d.11:08
ceacyyep11:08
ceacybut i don't understand why it worked before, and not now11:08
TheSheepno idea how it could have worked before, maybe earlier version of the plugin?11:08
ceacywell, i'll install gnome-control-center, just to see11:08
ceacy(don't think so : i'm brand new to xubuntu, i installed it yesterday ; it worked this night ; i removed packages this morning :p)11:09
ceacyThank you, anyway !11:10
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AltelierHello everyone, anyone knows how to add/change a mime type icon on xfce?13:09
TheSheepAltelier: yes13:10
AltelierIs it hard?13:11
TheSheepno13:11
AltelierCould you explain it to me?13:11
TheSheepAltelier: yes :)13:11
TheSheepAltelier: you just put it in your /.icons/hicolor/<size>/mimetypes13:12
TheSheepwith apropriate name13:12
TheSheepso, an icon for text/plain would be called text-plain13:12
AltelierSize will be the icon size right?13:13
TheSheepsee /usr/share/icons/gnome/<size>/mimetypes for some examples13:13
TheSheepyes, like 48x48 or scalable13:13
TheSheepthe system will pick the icon that is closest in size to the required13:14
AltelierSo for an application/x-cbr13:15
AltelierI should put a x-cbr , right?13:15
TheSheepI think it's application-x-cbr13:16
AltelierOk I'll try13:16
AltelierDoes it need to restart the windows manager?13:17
TheSheepthe problem is, cbr and cbz will be recognized as application/x-rar and application/x-zip, respectively13:17
TheSheepor archive/rar and archive/zip13:17
TheSheepnot sure13:17
TheSheepah, no, it's fixed13:18
TheSheepcool!13:18
TheSheepI can now us my thumbnailer on them!13:19
AltelierYes its fixed13:19
AltelierThat's why I asked13:19
TheSheepthat's great news13:19
TheSheepyou think they will also fix .gbc.zip and .gba.zip? :)13:20
AltelierWill be an improvement for sure13:21
AltelierI think that should be fixed too13:22
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AltelierTheSheep, thank you, it worked fine ^^13:52
TheSheepgreat13:53
* TheSheep reuses the 'irc chat' icon13:53
ere4si!ping15:03
ubotuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore15:03
ere4si!pong15:03
ubotupong is an old atari game. It's fun!15:03
jarnosI just had my pc freeze using gqview. Actually 100% of CPU power was used and best that I could alt-sysRq-s alt-sysRq-u alt-sysRq-b15:05
jarnos^best that I could do to reboot15:06
jarnoswas15:06
ere4si!gqview15:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gqview - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:11
ere4sijarnos: installed from source?15:12
ere4si!gtkrc15:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtkrc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:12
jarnosNo, from repository.15:13
jarnosere4si: No, from repository.15:13
ere4sijarnos: from the bot gqview isn't in the repos - what version are you using?15:13
ere4sithe bot works of gutsy atm15:14
jarnosere4si:  2.0.4-0ubuntu1, I am using Gutsy15:15
ere4si!info gqview15:16
ubotugqview (source: gqview): A simple image viewer using GTK+. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 454 kB, installed size 2676 kB15:16
ere4sik15:16
ere4sijarnos, that rules out dependencies :)15:16
jarnosere4si: what do you mean?15:17
ere4sijarnos, if you didn't have a needed lib that might have ramped cpu while it searched - but as a xubuntu package all dependencies are taken care of15:19
jarnosere4si: I see.15:19
ere4sijarnos, simple solutions first in my book :)15:19
ere4sijarnos: can you type   gqview in a terminal and check any output ?15:21
tomd123does anyone know of an applet kind of like the weather one for the network? I would like to be able to view my total bandwidth usage with in the past 24 hours. Any suggestinos would be appreciated :P15:22
ere4sitomd123, there is a network applet that shows real time usage - right click the panel - for usage over a day...not that I know15:24
jarnosI tried to rename a file in gqview when the window was maximized and tried to move the window right because I couldn't get the name visible. I can't reproduce the crash.15:25
jarnosere4si: I started it now from terminal and no text there.15:26
ere4sijarnos, k - might have been a mem address issue at that moment or something similar - s#$% happens15:27
ere4si:)15:27
jarnosere4si: There is a bug in gqview anyway. It didn't show the rename field wholly.15:28
ere4sijarnos, there are other image viewers as well15:29
LeAstralewow a lot of activity in here :)15:33
ere4sipeople use - people ask - people answer - stuff happens :)15:34
LeAstraleere4si: still a little more than usual, dont you think so ?15:34
ere4siLeAstrale, yep - that's why I spend time here trying to help - can be like a desert sometimes except for TheSheep and others15:36
LeAstraleere4si: ahh The trigger happy Sheep :P15:36
ere4siLeAstrale, that bloke should have a wage :)15:37
LeAstraleere4si: i think most people using Xubuntu actually goes to the #ubuntu channel.15:37
LeAstraleere4si: he banned me some days ago because i accidentally posted a link to a website in the wrong tab in Konversation15:38
ere4siLeAstrale, they might get a complex if they only asked here :)15:38
ere4sioops to you hen15:38
ere4si*then :)15:38
LeAstralei meant to post in #ubuntuforums-beginners but i accidentally wrote it in here instead15:38
LeAstralethats were i usually feel at home15:38
ere4siHe's young - he'll get over it15:38
LeAstraleheh.. i guess so15:39
LeAstraleere4si: do you know much about wifi ?15:39
ere4sididn't know there was a #ubuntu-forums-beginners15:39
ere4siLeAstrale, never use it - found a linux distro that will crack any wifi security so...15:40
LeAstraleere4si: its for the Ubuntu Forums beginners team15:41
LeAstralegenerally a very helpful channel :)15:41
LeAstraleand very universal15:41
LeAstraleere4si: i wasn't talking about wifi security.. just getting it to work on Xubuntu15:42
ere4siLeAstrale, I don't use it - link is all I know15:42
ere4si!wireless15:42
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:42
ere4sisorry15:42
LeAstraleere4si: no need to sorry :)15:42
ere4siLeAstrale, I like to help but for wireless that's all I know :)15:43
LeAstraleere4si: im considering pulling cables througout the house to get rid of the wireless aspect of my network15:43
ere4siLeAstrale, my whole house runs wires for 5 comps - the only way imho15:44
LeAstraleere4si: yes it is.. wireless is just no good for the backup solution im making here15:44
ere4siLeAstrale, speed was my reasoning15:45
LeAstraleere4si: speed and stability is the reason of Linux in general (and ethernet btw)15:46
ere4siLeAstrale, can't get gigabit wireless anywhere...15:46
ere4siLeAstrale, wireless is new and trendy but slow and insecure15:47
LeAstraleere4si: do you have a huge RAID array since you're considering gigabit ?15:47
ere4siLeAstrale, no - but transfer 700mb files regularly15:48
LeAstraleto fully use a one gigabit LAN line you would need to have disc setups capable of 128MB/s reading15:48
LeAstraleere4si: on a regurlar HDD you won't note the difference15:48
LeAstralebetween 100mbit and 1000mbit15:49
ere4siLeAstrale, noticed the diff going from 10/100 to gigabit15:49
LeAstraleit cant have been much15:49
LeAstralebecause a regurlar desktop disc has read speeds about 35MB/s and write at some 20MB/S15:50
ere4sifrom nearly 2 min to 30 sec for 700 mb15:50
ere4sionboard lan to nic cards15:50
LeAstraleif you had a RAID Array of 4 discs like i have you would however note the difference between 100mbit and gigabit15:51
ere4siraid in linux is still immature15:51
LeAstralethat is if the host has the same amount15:51
LeAstraleere4si: RAID isn't inmature... it has always been meant to be made in Hardware to get the true performance15:51
LeAstralei have a pretty expensive Raid card with 8 IDE slots in it15:52
ere4siand linux works best with software raid15:52
LeAstralei got 4 7,200 rpm discs right now15:52
LeAstraleere4si: a good hw raid the OS wont even now exists..15:52
ere4sik - don't need it atm15:52
LeAstraleere4si: im fiddling with it for the backup solution ;)15:53
ere4siLeAstrale, it's great for that15:53
LeAstraleyes with the redundancy and everything :)15:53
LeAstralei got a RAID 5..15:54
LeAstraleand i tested it manually some time ago by just unplugging a cable while the server was running... it just kept going.. a little box popped up about a HDD failure that i needed to replace ASAP15:55
LeAstraleand when i plugged the cable back in the disc it ran a consistency check and then integrated it into the RAID array again15:55
LeAstralethat was a nice feeling  :)15:55
LeAstralehmm... i think ill take a nab.. nice taking to you ere4si15:58
LeAstralettyl15:58
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tech404so I have just installed xubuntu-desktop... now I need to remove all my old gnome stuff.. I thought that removing ubuntu-desktop followed by autoremove'ing would do the job but it seems to have missed quite a bit... any ideas on the best way to make this happen?17:10
nazdalfhello ppl....i hav xubuntu 7.10 and the screenlock has ceased to work.....it has xscreensaver-gl installed in linux...can some1 pls help me with it....18:12
TheSheepI thought that 7.10 used gnome-screensaver18:13
nazdalfwell probably ubuntu does...i have xubuntu18:13
nazdalfwell....can ne1 tell me why my screenlock stopped working on xubuntu.......did ne1 else not get the same problem??18:21
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zoredachelook at the autostarted applications and see if the screen saver is listed there18:25
nazdalfzoredache: no it is not....18:28
zoredachenazdalf: try running the command sudo apt-get install gnome-screensaver xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl18:32
zoredacheif that is installed then make a new autostarted application.. the name and program should be 'gnome-screensaver18:34
nazdalfzoredache: oops....i ws wrong....turns out gnome screensaver is instald on my system.....18:36
nazdalfzoredache: the other two packages are installed as well.....18:37
nazdalfzoredache: i ll do the autostarted thingy....18:37
nazdalfzoredache: its wrking now!! thanks a lot!! ....i ws trying to get it to run by 'xscreensaver-gl' since yest....lollll18:44
zoredacheyour welcome18:47
nicolahwill xubuntu hardy heron use xfce 4.4.2 ?19:01
TheSheepnicolah: yes, it will use 4.4.2 the same as Gutsy19:14
nicolahgutsy did ? so the bug about the usb stick removal and the trash will remain19:15
nicolahd'oh19:15
nicolahthanks for the answer19:15
TheSheepnicolah: if the bug was reported, it will probably be fixed19:15
nicolahnow I can't find the page but it was well reported19:16
nicolahthunar daemon wouldn't let unmount a usb stick19:16
TheSheepnicolah: it definitely doesn't happen for me19:16
TheSheepnicolah: so I guess it's fixed19:16
nicolahTheSheep: I'm installing hardy heron and I'll try19:17
nicolahI don't really care about that bug but being my girlfriend laptop it's pretty annoying19:17
TheSheepyeah, I can imagine that being a laptop can be annaoying if you don't have apropriate features19:18
TheSheeplike a keyboard and a display, for example19:18
nicolahas far as the trash in removal drive ?19:18
nicolahwill it still create a .trash folder and never delete it ?19:19
TheSheepnicolah: I think that's what the standard specification says19:19
nicolahthe standard specification says it's cool getting usb device full withouth even being prompted to empy the trash ?19:20
TheSheepyou can read it at http://freedesktop.org19:21
nicolahwell I mean I *love* xfce but gnome at least prompt for emptying the trash when umounting a usb drive19:22
TheSheepit would be pretty annoying to me19:23
nicolahassuming your hidden files are not showed, what do you do when your usb device is full and you don't even know why ?19:24
TheSheepI empty the trash19:26
nicolahwhich one ?19:28
gabkdllydoesn't thunar automatically remove files from the trash if you run out of space?19:28
nicolahnever happened, btw I'll test19:29
TheSheepgabkdlly: no, as far as I know19:30
TheSheepgabkdlly: thunar won't ever remove anything it didn't create19:31
TheSheepgabkdlly: without an explicit command19:31
gabkdllywell, I usually remove stuff on the command line if I don't want it to hang out in the trash19:32
gabkdllybut I can see how it would be a pain if you are used to doing that with a GUI19:33
TheSheepgabkdlly: just hold down shift if you want to remove permanently19:34
gabkdllyoh, that's handy to know, thanks :)19:34
TheSheepsigh, it's in the manual :)19:35
gabkdllyTheSheep: I am actually not seeing it in the F1 help manual. Maybe I should file a bug.19:48
qsrvhi21:02
ere4si!hi21:02
ubotuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu!21:02
qsrvhas anyone had problems with brasero freezing when burning audio cds?21:02
qsrvit freezes for something like 5 minutes21:02
qsrvthen starts burning the cd21:02
ere4siI don't use iy - sorry21:03
ere4si*it21:03
qsrvwhat do you use to burn data and audio discs?21:03
ere4sik3b21:03
ere4siit's the most recommended21:03
zoredachefor data disks I use cdrecord directly... I don't make audio disks...21:04
qsrvhm21:06
qsrvk3b depends on KDE, so it's not an option - I'm running on a rather limited system21:06
ere4siit will load some dependencies but not all - won't load kde21:07
ere4si!vino21:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:17
ShinjinIs .msi a linux file extension?21:18
ere4sithat's a windows installer file - no good in xubuntu21:24
ShinjinOkay21:24
ere4siMicroSoft Installer21:24
ere4si!version21:30
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell21:30
ere4si!sensors22:07
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto22:07
MikademusAnybody who knows why my 64-bit 7.10 live CD won't boot on my Core 2 Duo?22:07
MikademusI get to the "Kernal is alive" message, then the monitor turns off and nothing happens22:09
ere4siwhat's the brand and model pls - helps with a google search22:09
Mikademuse6600 2.4ghz22:09
MikademusIntel22:09
MikademusI have Googled for 2 days :-/22:10
MikademusAm new to Linux, and want to switch from Windows, but I just run into obstacles22:10
ere4siand the brand? - toshiba acer...22:11
MikademusAh, home built. Not a laptop22:11
MikademusDesktop computer22:11
ere4sik - m/board maker and model?22:11
ere4siand vid card22:11
MikademusMB is an Abit DH7-Deluxe, Video is ATI Radeon X850X22:12
ere4sik - brb22:13
MikademusSorry, Asus22:13
MikademusHold, I gave you the name of the wrong MB22:15
MikademusSorry22:15
MikademusIt is Asus P5W DH-Deluxe, I mixed it up with my old one22:15
* Mikademus feels like a n3wblar22:16
ere4siok - seems there is no issues with that setup so maybe the cd - did you do the md5 check on it? - did you burn it at a slow speed?22:18
MikademusOn slow speed, yes, I haven't done the MD5 check, but I have exactly the same issue with the 64-bit Ubunto LiveCD I also tried22:20
MikademusAre there some "safe mode" or similar parameters I can switch on, since I get to the boot loader?22:21
ere4sipress F6 I think22:21
ere4sithis - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376713 - talks about the success people have with the core 222:22
MikademusOk, thanks, will read the thread. F6 is the key to enable options, but I have no clue *which* options to set... I'm quite virgin in the ways of *nix22:22
MikademusThing is, I really want to run a Xubunto install, pereferably 64-bit, but it won't boot at all, and the i386 version fails on 15% of installation, which apparently is a quite common problem22:24
ere4sibeen so long since I ran the live cd - there is an option for safe graphics22:24
MikademusSo the GFX is a common source of issues?22:24
ere4sinot from what I read - that's why I asked about the cd22:25
ere4siis your burner oldish?22:25
ere4siI had lots of dramas with burnt cds then tried an os burn on another comp and it worked - seems the one drive was on its' way out22:26
ere4siwasted alot of cds finding that out...22:27
MikademusWell, it is not very old, but it's still worth checking. I'll simply do the MD5 test in the installer.22:28
MikademusBtw, I always burn with "verify data" on, just for that reason.22:28
MikademusStill, your experience sounds like a bummer too... :P22:29
ere4siI've got a large stack of coasters - something to be aware of...22:32
MikademusBah, I'd gladly waste a few CDs if I could get the 64 bit version to install22:35
Mikademus;)22:35
ere4sithe 64 bit is troublesome from what people are saying - needs work to get apps happn'n 'cause they're 32bit written etc22:40
LeAstraleere4si: discussing 64bit atm are we ?22:46
ere4siLeAstrale, and booting probs with it...22:46
LeAstralewith the 64bit :O ?22:47
LeAstralei haven't had any such at all with Xubuntu22:47
LeAstraleexcept when i played around with alpha 322:47
LeAstraleere4si: i have updated my wireless thread now :)22:47
LeAstralehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4403380#post440338022:47
LeAstraleplease take a look at the above thread if you have knowledge in wireless under Xubuntu22:47
MikademusLeAstrale, aye, booting probs with the 64bit Ubuntu and Xubunto LiveCDs on a Core2Due22:48
ere4siLeAstrale, I don't do wireless - sorry :)22:48
MikademusAnd the i386 version won't get past the lockup at 15% done problem22:49
LeAstraleere4si: i know it was just so that i could post it out load in here if anyone had any ideas22:49
LeAstraleMikademus: tried the alternate discs ?22:49
MikademusNo, I haven't, as I understand the main difference is the installer program?22:56
LeAstraleMikademus: yes.. which could solve your 15% issues of the install... i have however heard of cases where that step took extremely long time22:57
MikademusI searched and found some threads where the 15% issue was discussed, and it seems to be a relatively common if not directly widespread issue23:00
MikademusSo the i386 install issue is not isolated to my particular config23:00
LeAstraleMikademus: i would however recommend you download the alternate.. its not that different.. a little harder to partitionate that should be the only thing23:01
LeAstraleMikademus: i dont know23:01
MikademusWell, I'll give the alternative a try. I just wish I had some rewriteable CDs :)23:01
LeAstralehow do i format my WD external HDD from within Kubuntu ?23:02
zoredachewell if you are a cli type person you would drop down to a shell, then use something like 'sudo cfdisk' to make your partitions, followed by something like 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdnn'23:03
MikademusAlternative 64 bit gibbon on its way. Thank the Powers for a reasonably broad band, though a band broad would be adequate too. Anyway, wish me luck with this version.23:09
LeAstralezoredache: and if i would like it with a smaller NTFS partition on it (which should hold the driver to access EXT3 from windows)23:10
MikademusI have a nagging feeling Shub-Nuggorath don't want me to leave the dark side23:10
unohey23:11
ere4simy cows eat hay :)23:12
unowhen i tried to burn xubuntu to a cd it didnt work it had 3 errors... and i really dont want to keep waisting cd's so is there any way to boot from an external hdd to install xubuntu on my internal hdd?23:12
zoredacheuno: there are ways, but they are tricky...23:14
bitformdid you verify the MD5 of your ISO image?23:14
zoredache!install | uno23:14
ubotuuno: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate23:14
ere4si!cisco23:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cisco - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:20
Mikademus!sillywordgame23:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sillywordgame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:24
MikademusOk, here goes. Wish me luck. Mikademus signing off23:32
ere4sik lol23:33
beautifulsnowHello, I would like to know to trim my dekstop down to the core, I mean, I don't want games, extra applications, etc etc, just the core (like with kde, you can have kde core.. if that makes any sense...).... anyone know how to23:38
ere4siI used this and am impressed - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal23:40
ere4sibut you can open synaptic and select packages to remove23:41
beautifulsnowman, that site seems to have everything I need >_> *thumbs up*23:42
ere4siusing fluxbox I halved mem usage and saved a third of the disk space used by the "normal" install :)23:43
beautifulsnowYes, that's what I'd like to do too :)23:44
beautifulsnowSee, I just installed Ubuntu a week ago, and I'm using 40Gb on my hard drive already.23:47
ere4sinext I'm using the server install and flux to see if hd space is further reduced23:47
beautifulsnowGranted, 10Gb is for virtual box ;)23:48
ere4si40G - how - avi's?23:48
ere4sik23:48
beautifulsnowNo. I have an external hard drive that I use for media23:48
ere4siwhat uses the 30G?23:48
beautifulsnowYou tell me :P23:48
ere4si???23:49
beautifulsnowOOPS sorry, thats 35gb total, not 40 ;p23:49
ere4sidoesn't seem right...23:49
ere4sistill23:49
beautifulsnowyeah23:49
beautifulsnowToo bad I already love my setup too much, or I'd do a barebones install ;___;23:50
beautifulsnowMaybe saving my home folder would be enough? :-/23:50
ere4siI set up with 5G for / and the rest for /home - the / uses 1.2G23:50
beautifulsnowLovely23:51
* beautifulsnow ponders23:51
ere4siyep - with a /home you can reinstall and keep data and most settings - e.g. firefox has a .firefox folder in /home with your bookmarks etc in23:52
* beautifulsnow starts making a list of the programs she will want to install ^____^23:52
beautifulsnowYeah, that's what I'm thinking, if I reinstall, and keep my /home, I should be ok, no?23:52
ere4siI do that - don't upgrade but reinstalll so my /home is great idea for me :)23:53
beautifulsnowI forgot to make a /home partition, been using Linux on and off since '97, I should know better >_>23:54
ere4siI've gone from dapper to gutsy with same /home partition23:54
ere4siwell - it's got to be on its' own partition - you can install a window manager that is light then start removing apps23:55

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