[01:54] evening folks. last night I was troubleshooting my excessive boot time & by simply shutting off services at boot i got the time from bios post to xubuntu login down to 47 seconds. I'm liking that much more than the 200 seconds it booted in previously. [01:55] I'm still having the problem of my onboard wifi device intermittently disappearing on boot. [01:57] this happens on reboot after changing an ultrabay device (IBM T30) or also after the system completeing a big upgrade. on reboot after the dev has disappeared, the issue rectifies itself and wifi is back. === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [05:54] hey, anyone know how to get gmrun to pickup urxvt or xfce terminal as default terminal to run term apps in? i've changed it to urxvt from gnome-terminal in .gmrunrc but urxvt loads the dissapears. anyone using gmrun? [07:37] hi [07:37] I have a question [07:37] I have a old ibook g4 700mhz 128ram I decided to install Xubuntu for the low requirements and it worked fine. I decided to format the HD to install the latest version only to realize that the cdRom was busted. is there any other way to install xubuntu or am I screwd? [07:40] install over network.. [07:40] or internet [07:41] however, you still are required to have a cd-rom drive for that.. or some drive. Do you have a floppy? maybe that will work. [07:41] nop [07:41] thats the problem [07:41] its an ibook so it only came with a cdrom [07:41] thats it [07:42] you'll have to have some way of installing it on your harddrive or system. I think you're screwed. [07:42] and since it only has 120 ram I had to use the Alternative CD [07:42] this might help - http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html [07:42] ask around. I really can't help. [07:42] ok thanx ron [07:42] let me check that link [07:42] ere4si, the problem is even if you he could try a network boot, but how? [07:43] he can't even install anything on his system or in RAM. [07:43] !I'd go for a usb stick set up on another comp [07:43] !realplayer [07:43] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [07:44] hmmm [07:44] then network to that computer. However, I still won't know how he can get his computer to try anything. [07:44] of course it is a power pc [07:44] CPU [07:44] prob won't boot from usb... [07:44] not a chance. :) [07:44] :/ [07:44] it's a mac - just set it on fire :) [07:45] well I just thought I would put it to office use [07:45] if you had another macintosh similar to that one then you might be able to get away with installing it on that machine then replacing harddrives.. [07:45] but who'd know how that would work out. [07:45] true [07:46] it's all touch and go.. but at least with a Mac it might be able to configure itself to work on the new machine. [07:46] you could do that with Intel and linux, but you'd need to configure things manually which is quite hard. [07:47] but its a power pc cpu, requires a special version [07:47] oh, wait.. duh.. you'd be using linux on the Mac. :/... you'd still have to configure things manually. [07:47] yah.. sorry skull-DT. I can't help you much. :/ [07:47] yep [07:47] thanx for trying man [07:48] get a new cdrom if it's worth it. [07:48] the truth is that I dont even know if I can open this things [07:48] heh, yah.. I bet. [07:48] thery are like sealed, have you seen one? [07:48] and gutsy doesn't support power pc [07:48] yeah [07:49] I've seen some Macs that are sealed. [07:49] it does [07:49] they were never meant to be messed around with. [07:49] thought I saw that on the ubuntu site [07:49] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/ [07:49] k [07:49] ppc version is right there [07:49] Good luck skull-DT ... nite [07:49] ok bye [07:50] oh well, I think I have the coles paper weight in the block thats for sure [07:50] haha [07:50] thanx guys [07:50] appreciate the help [07:50] got a friend with an external cd drive? [07:51] would that work [07:51] ? [07:52] I dont know much about macs [07:52] so they boot from external drives? [07:52] if the mac can use it - I don't know anything about macs except they're overpriced and underpowered :) [07:53] im not much of a fan ether but I have it, might as well try to put it to work [07:53] you might have to google about that [07:53] I'm all for using it if you have it [07:53] because mac os sure ass hell did not work well I tell you that [07:54] :) = trying for humor [07:55] as an aside - why didn't you upgrade the old install? [07:56] well actually that was the problem, I did try but the upgrade failed and screwd eveything up. so I had to format [07:56] after the upgrade nothing worked even the display looked like crap [07:57] so I decided to go for a fresh install [07:58] fair enough and a common enough prob that it should be looked into by those that offer these things [07:58] to my surprise the cd rom died, so some files could not be red from the install cd [07:58] yeah that would be cool [07:58] did you do the md5 check on the cd? [07:58] yep [07:58] 11 different cds man [07:58] not only one [07:59] burned in different machines and everything [07:59] was it burnt on another comp? - and at a slow speed e.g. 4x [07:59] k [07:59] I did went for 4X a couple of times [07:59] had to be the mac drive [07:59] all os's should be burnt at a very slow speed [08:00] gtg - bbl :) [08:00] yeah [08:01] I might do of thouse smash my Ibook and put it on youtube [08:02] lol [08:16] what font does xubuntu logo use and where to get it ? [09:53] hey, is nautilus a part of xubuntu? [09:58] Ven]n, no - xubuntu uses thunar - it is lighter on resources but still thorough [09:59] yeah.. [09:59] its just that i also have nautilus installed in my xubuntu [09:59] I like it :) [09:59] but i guess it came from when i installed gnome-desktop-environment [09:59] yep it wouldhave [10:00] so thats where it came from [10:00] heh [10:00] :) [10:00] gah.. probably alot that didnt get removed when i removed gnome-desktop [10:03] if you open synaptic package manager you can click an installed package and select to remove it and the other progs it needs will be shown - if xfce is not one then it might be safe to remove - if you've installed lots [10:04] and you can select cancel to not remove it [10:04] good suggestion :p [10:04] it lets you search for dependencies and stuff :) [10:11] * ere4si wonders what dramas bloodboy is having? [10:55] Hi [10:55] I've got a problem under Xubuntu, with quodlibet (and dbus hotkeys) [10:55] it used to work, but i uninstalled a few packages, without any problem in dependencies, and now Quodlibet doesn't recognize my hotkeys anymore [10:55] unfortunately, i don't know which package is supposed to interact with the dbus system, in xfce [10:56] python-dbus probably [10:57] I've already the latest version [10:57] oh, and quodlibet message is : [10:57] "DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service file" [10:58] (btw, the xfce hotkeys work fine ; it's just the quodlibet's dbusmmkeys plugin which fails) [10:59] looks like it equires gconf [10:59] requires [11:01] i just reinstalled it, but the error is stille the same : do i have to login/logout, in order for the changes to apply ? [11:01] you shouldn't have to [11:02] well, gconfd isnow running : [11:02] ceacy 5095 0.0 0.1 5680 2752 ? S 11:45 0:00 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 [11:02] but the error still occurs [11:03] I really don't know how gconf and other gnome apps organize these things [11:03] In the plugin script dbus*.py, this is the commentary : [11:03] # This plugin is needed for quod libet to handle multimedia keys properly in [11:03] # GNOME 2.18. gnome-settings-daemon grabs all keys and publish it as dbus [11:03] # signals, thus preventing applications like quod libet to grab the key [11:03] maybe there is a gnome-settings-daemon package? [11:03] But i guess i never had gnome-control-center installed in xubuntu, so ... (gnome-settings-daemon is provided by gnome-control-center, if i remeber correctly) [11:04] no, it's a deparate package [11:04] !info gnome-settings-daemon [11:04] Package gnome-settings-daemon does not exist in gutsy [11:04] at least in Hardy :/ [11:05] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=gnome-settings-daemon [11:07] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gnome-settings-daemonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gnome-settings-daemonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gnome-settings-daemon [11:07] sorry [11:08] ceacy: well, you've seen the code. It uses g-s-d. [11:08] yep [11:08] but i don't understand why it worked before, and not now [11:08] no idea how it could have worked before, maybe earlier version of the plugin? [11:08] well, i'll install gnome-control-center, just to see [11:09] (don't think so : i'm brand new to xubuntu, i installed it yesterday ; it worked this night ; i removed packages this morning :p) [11:10] Thank you, anyway ! === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [13:09] Hello everyone, anyone knows how to add/change a mime type icon on xfce? [13:10] Altelier: yes [13:11] Is it hard? [13:11] no [13:11] Could you explain it to me? [13:11] Altelier: yes :) [13:12] Altelier: you just put it in your /.icons/hicolor//mimetypes [13:12] with apropriate name [13:12] so, an icon for text/plain would be called text-plain [13:13] Size will be the icon size right? [13:13] see /usr/share/icons/gnome//mimetypes for some examples [13:13] yes, like 48x48 or scalable [13:14] the system will pick the icon that is closest in size to the required [13:15] So for an application/x-cbr [13:15] I should put a x-cbr , right? [13:16] I think it's application-x-cbr [13:16] Ok I'll try [13:17] Does it need to restart the windows manager? [13:17] the problem is, cbr and cbz will be recognized as application/x-rar and application/x-zip, respectively [13:17] or archive/rar and archive/zip [13:17] not sure [13:18] ah, no, it's fixed [13:18] cool! [13:19] I can now us my thumbnailer on them! [13:19] Yes its fixed [13:19] That's why I asked [13:19] that's great news [13:20] you think they will also fix .gbc.zip and .gba.zip? :) [13:21] Will be an improvement for sure [13:22] I think that should be fixed too === Pricey is now known as PriceChild [13:52] TheSheep, thank you, it worked fine ^^ [13:53] great [13:53] * TheSheep reuses the 'irc chat' icon [15:03] !ping [15:03] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [15:03] !pong [15:03] pong is an old atari game. It's fun! [15:05] I just had my pc freeze using gqview. Actually 100% of CPU power was used and best that I could alt-sysRq-s alt-sysRq-u alt-sysRq-b [15:06] ^best that I could do to reboot [15:06] was [15:11] !gqview [15:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about gqview - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [15:12] jarnos: installed from source? [15:12] !gtkrc [15:12] Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkrc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [15:13] No, from repository. [15:13] ere4si: No, from repository. [15:13] jarnos: from the bot gqview isn't in the repos - what version are you using? [15:14] the bot works of gutsy atm [15:15] ere4si: 2.0.4-0ubuntu1, I am using Gutsy [15:16] !info gqview [15:16] gqview (source: gqview): A simple image viewer using GTK+. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 454 kB, installed size 2676 kB [15:16] k [15:16] jarnos, that rules out dependencies :) [15:17] ere4si: what do you mean? [15:19] jarnos, if you didn't have a needed lib that might have ramped cpu while it searched - but as a xubuntu package all dependencies are taken care of [15:19] ere4si: I see. [15:19] jarnos, simple solutions first in my book :) [15:21] jarnos: can you type gqview in a terminal and check any output ? [15:22] does anyone know of an applet kind of like the weather one for the network? I would like to be able to view my total bandwidth usage with in the past 24 hours. Any suggestinos would be appreciated :P [15:24] tomd123, there is a network applet that shows real time usage - right click the panel - for usage over a day...not that I know [15:25] I tried to rename a file in gqview when the window was maximized and tried to move the window right because I couldn't get the name visible. I can't reproduce the crash. [15:26] ere4si: I started it now from terminal and no text there. [15:27] jarnos, k - might have been a mem address issue at that moment or something similar - s#$% happens [15:27] :) [15:28] ere4si: There is a bug in gqview anyway. It didn't show the rename field wholly. [15:29] jarnos, there are other image viewers as well [15:33] wow a lot of activity in here :) [15:34] people use - people ask - people answer - stuff happens :) [15:34] ere4si: still a little more than usual, dont you think so ? [15:36] LeAstrale, yep - that's why I spend time here trying to help - can be like a desert sometimes except for TheSheep and others [15:36] ere4si: ahh The trigger happy Sheep :P [15:37] LeAstrale, that bloke should have a wage :) [15:37] ere4si: i think most people using Xubuntu actually goes to the #ubuntu channel. [15:38] ere4si: he banned me some days ago because i accidentally posted a link to a website in the wrong tab in Konversation [15:38] LeAstrale, they might get a complex if they only asked here :) [15:38] oops to you hen [15:38] *then :) [15:38] i meant to post in #ubuntuforums-beginners but i accidentally wrote it in here instead [15:38] thats were i usually feel at home [15:38] He's young - he'll get over it [15:39] heh.. i guess so [15:39] ere4si: do you know much about wifi ? [15:39] didn't know there was a #ubuntu-forums-beginners [15:40] LeAstrale, never use it - found a linux distro that will crack any wifi security so... [15:41] ere4si: its for the Ubuntu Forums beginners team [15:41] generally a very helpful channel :) [15:41] and very universal [15:42] ere4si: i wasn't talking about wifi security.. just getting it to work on Xubuntu [15:42] LeAstrale, I don't use it - link is all I know [15:42] !wireless [15:42] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [15:42] sorry [15:42] ere4si: no need to sorry :) [15:43] LeAstrale, I like to help but for wireless that's all I know :) [15:43] ere4si: im considering pulling cables througout the house to get rid of the wireless aspect of my network [15:44] LeAstrale, my whole house runs wires for 5 comps - the only way imho [15:44] ere4si: yes it is.. wireless is just no good for the backup solution im making here [15:45] LeAstrale, speed was my reasoning [15:46] ere4si: speed and stability is the reason of Linux in general (and ethernet btw) [15:46] LeAstrale, can't get gigabit wireless anywhere... [15:47] LeAstrale, wireless is new and trendy but slow and insecure [15:47] ere4si: do you have a huge RAID array since you're considering gigabit ? [15:48] LeAstrale, no - but transfer 700mb files regularly [15:48] to fully use a one gigabit LAN line you would need to have disc setups capable of 128MB/s reading [15:48] ere4si: on a regurlar HDD you won't note the difference [15:49] between 100mbit and 1000mbit [15:49] LeAstrale, noticed the diff going from 10/100 to gigabit [15:49] it cant have been much [15:50] because a regurlar desktop disc has read speeds about 35MB/s and write at some 20MB/S [15:50] from nearly 2 min to 30 sec for 700 mb [15:50] onboard lan to nic cards [15:51] if you had a RAID Array of 4 discs like i have you would however note the difference between 100mbit and gigabit [15:51] raid in linux is still immature [15:51] that is if the host has the same amount [15:51] ere4si: RAID isn't inmature... it has always been meant to be made in Hardware to get the true performance [15:52] i have a pretty expensive Raid card with 8 IDE slots in it [15:52] and linux works best with software raid [15:52] i got 4 7,200 rpm discs right now [15:52] ere4si: a good hw raid the OS wont even now exists.. [15:52] k - don't need it atm [15:53] ere4si: im fiddling with it for the backup solution ;) [15:53] LeAstrale, it's great for that [15:53] yes with the redundancy and everything :) [15:54] i got a RAID 5.. [15:55] and i tested it manually some time ago by just unplugging a cable while the server was running... it just kept going.. a little box popped up about a HDD failure that i needed to replace ASAP [15:55] and when i plugged the cable back in the disc it ran a consistency check and then integrated it into the RAID array again [15:55] that was a nice feeling :) [15:58] hmm... i think ill take a nab.. nice taking to you ere4si [15:58] ttyl === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [17:10] so I have just installed xubuntu-desktop... now I need to remove all my old gnome stuff.. I thought that removing ubuntu-desktop followed by autoremove'ing would do the job but it seems to have missed quite a bit... any ideas on the best way to make this happen? [18:12] hello ppl....i hav xubuntu 7.10 and the screenlock has ceased to work.....it has xscreensaver-gl installed in linux...can some1 pls help me with it.... [18:13] I thought that 7.10 used gnome-screensaver [18:13] well probably ubuntu does...i have xubuntu [18:21] well....can ne1 tell me why my screenlock stopped working on xubuntu.......did ne1 else not get the same problem?? === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [18:25] look at the autostarted applications and see if the screen saver is listed there [18:28] zoredache: no it is not.... [18:32] nazdalf: try running the command sudo apt-get install gnome-screensaver xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl [18:34] if that is installed then make a new autostarted application.. the name and program should be 'gnome-screensaver [18:36] zoredache: oops....i ws wrong....turns out gnome screensaver is instald on my system..... [18:37] zoredache: the other two packages are installed as well..... [18:37] zoredache: i ll do the autostarted thingy.... [18:44] zoredache: its wrking now!! thanks a lot!! ....i ws trying to get it to run by 'xscreensaver-gl' since yest....lollll [18:47] your welcome [19:01] will xubuntu hardy heron use xfce 4.4.2 ? [19:14] nicolah: yes, it will use 4.4.2 the same as Gutsy [19:15] gutsy did ? so the bug about the usb stick removal and the trash will remain [19:15] d'oh [19:15] thanks for the answer [19:15] nicolah: if the bug was reported, it will probably be fixed [19:16] now I can't find the page but it was well reported [19:16] thunar daemon wouldn't let unmount a usb stick [19:16] nicolah: it definitely doesn't happen for me [19:16] nicolah: so I guess it's fixed [19:17] TheSheep: I'm installing hardy heron and I'll try [19:17] I don't really care about that bug but being my girlfriend laptop it's pretty annoying [19:18] yeah, I can imagine that being a laptop can be annaoying if you don't have apropriate features [19:18] like a keyboard and a display, for example [19:18] as far as the trash in removal drive ? [19:19] will it still create a .trash folder and never delete it ? [19:19] nicolah: I think that's what the standard specification says [19:20] the standard specification says it's cool getting usb device full withouth even being prompted to empy the trash ? [19:21] you can read it at http://freedesktop.org [19:22] well I mean I *love* xfce but gnome at least prompt for emptying the trash when umounting a usb drive [19:23] it would be pretty annoying to me [19:24] assuming your hidden files are not showed, what do you do when your usb device is full and you don't even know why ? [19:26] I empty the trash [19:28] which one ? [19:28] doesn't thunar automatically remove files from the trash if you run out of space? [19:29] never happened, btw I'll test [19:30] gabkdlly: no, as far as I know [19:31] gabkdlly: thunar won't ever remove anything it didn't create [19:31] gabkdlly: without an explicit command [19:32] well, I usually remove stuff on the command line if I don't want it to hang out in the trash [19:33] but I can see how it would be a pain if you are used to doing that with a GUI [19:34] gabkdlly: just hold down shift if you want to remove permanently [19:34] oh, that's handy to know, thanks :) [19:35] sigh, it's in the manual :) [19:48] TheSheep: I am actually not seeing it in the F1 help manual. Maybe I should file a bug. [21:02] hi [21:02] !hi [21:02] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [21:02] has anyone had problems with brasero freezing when burning audio cds? [21:02] it freezes for something like 5 minutes [21:02] then starts burning the cd [21:03] I don't use iy - sorry [21:03] *it [21:03] what do you use to burn data and audio discs? [21:03] k3b [21:03] it's the most recommended [21:04] for data disks I use cdrecord directly... I don't make audio disks... [21:06] hm [21:06] k3b depends on KDE, so it's not an option - I'm running on a rather limited system [21:07] it will load some dependencies but not all - won't load kde [21:17] !vino [21:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about vino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [21:18] Is .msi a linux file extension? [21:24] that's a windows installer file - no good in xubuntu [21:24] Okay [21:24] MicroSoft Installer [21:30] !version [21:30] To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell [22:07] !sensors [22:07] You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto [22:07] Anybody who knows why my 64-bit 7.10 live CD won't boot on my Core 2 Duo? [22:09] I get to the "Kernal is alive" message, then the monitor turns off and nothing happens [22:09] what's the brand and model pls - helps with a google search [22:09] e6600 2.4ghz [22:09] Intel [22:10] I have Googled for 2 days :-/ [22:10] Am new to Linux, and want to switch from Windows, but I just run into obstacles [22:11] and the brand? - toshiba acer... [22:11] Ah, home built. Not a laptop [22:11] Desktop computer [22:11] k - m/board maker and model? [22:11] and vid card [22:12] MB is an Abit DH7-Deluxe, Video is ATI Radeon X850X [22:13] k - brb [22:13] Sorry, Asus [22:15] Hold, I gave you the name of the wrong MB [22:15] Sorry [22:15] It is Asus P5W DH-Deluxe, I mixed it up with my old one [22:16] * Mikademus feels like a n3wblar [22:18] ok - seems there is no issues with that setup so maybe the cd - did you do the md5 check on it? - did you burn it at a slow speed? [22:20] On slow speed, yes, I haven't done the MD5 check, but I have exactly the same issue with the 64-bit Ubunto LiveCD I also tried [22:21] Are there some "safe mode" or similar parameters I can switch on, since I get to the boot loader? [22:21] press F6 I think [22:22] this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376713 - talks about the success people have with the core 2 [22:22] Ok, thanks, will read the thread. F6 is the key to enable options, but I have no clue *which* options to set... I'm quite virgin in the ways of *nix [22:24] Thing is, I really want to run a Xubunto install, pereferably 64-bit, but it won't boot at all, and the i386 version fails on 15% of installation, which apparently is a quite common problem [22:24] been so long since I ran the live cd - there is an option for safe graphics [22:24] So the GFX is a common source of issues? [22:25] not from what I read - that's why I asked about the cd [22:25] is your burner oldish? [22:26] I had lots of dramas with burnt cds then tried an os burn on another comp and it worked - seems the one drive was on its' way out [22:27] wasted alot of cds finding that out... [22:28] Well, it is not very old, but it's still worth checking. I'll simply do the MD5 test in the installer. [22:28] Btw, I always burn with "verify data" on, just for that reason. [22:29] Still, your experience sounds like a bummer too... :P [22:32] I've got a large stack of coasters - something to be aware of... [22:35] Bah, I'd gladly waste a few CDs if I could get the 64 bit version to install [22:35] ;) [22:40] the 64 bit is troublesome from what people are saying - needs work to get apps happn'n 'cause they're 32bit written etc [22:46] ere4si: discussing 64bit atm are we ? [22:46] LeAstrale, and booting probs with it... [22:47] with the 64bit :O ? [22:47] i haven't had any such at all with Xubuntu [22:47] except when i played around with alpha 3 [22:47] ere4si: i have updated my wireless thread now :) [22:47] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4403380#post4403380 [22:47] please take a look at the above thread if you have knowledge in wireless under Xubuntu [22:48] LeAstrale, aye, booting probs with the 64bit Ubuntu and Xubunto LiveCDs on a Core2Due [22:48]