[00:03] Hey how's it goin'... for the purposes of filing a bug, is the 'Resize Window' plugin in Compiz considered part of compiz-fusion-plugins-main, or is just 'compiz' more appropriate? [00:07] ...that's via the CompizConfig Settings Manager/ccsm, btw [00:13] hi, I'm trying to install hardy alpha5 from cd, but does not recognize my laptop screen resolution, so I have just $. any way to specify monitor Horyz/vert at boot time? any workaround? [00:16] ive got a strange problem with openoffice hyphenation [00:17] it says it conflicts with another package, but it's not installed [00:20] this is most likely a problem with my apt-cache: [00:20] Feb 29 05:56:53 debconf: --> SUBST base-installer/debootstrap/fallback-error ERROR Invalid Release signature (key id 40976EAF437D05B5) [00:20] any idea what the file name is? [00:21] can someone using kubunt hardy go to K > system settings > user management [00:21] and see if it works? [00:32] every opengl application (besides glxgears) I use renders like crap [00:33] any chance that i can get a pointer on how to get wifi up on ubuntu server? [00:33] hischild: #ubuntu [00:33] you shouldn't be running wifi on a server [00:33] picard_pwns_kirk, it's running hardy --> this would be the correct channel .. [00:34] oh [00:34] picard_pwns_kirk, yes ... i'm aware of that ... but untill i get my wiring sorted out, i'm stuck with wifi ... [00:34] for now i hardwired it ... and that works ... yet having a cable through the middle of the room isn't exactly a perfect solution ... === Martinp24 is now known as Martinp23 [00:50] erm...i finally managed to get graphics working on my new laptop and when i start X on hardy, i can login but when i'm loading gnome i get a white screen...is this a common issue ? [01:41] hi all [01:41] * nblracer wave [01:42] I've got some problems on my update to hardy... [01:42] my wireless card (Intel 3945ABG) stopped working [01:42] I've seen that hardy uses a new driver (iwl3945) instead the old one (ipw3945)... [01:43] I can see the info through iwconfig, etc... [01:43] but there are no scan results on a iwlist scan [01:43] * picard_pwns_kirk hates it when that happens [01:44] some hint? ^^ [01:44] for me, it was a graphics card [01:44] I just downloaded a new driver off of the interwebz [01:44] I've googled about that problem on the new driver... but almost nothing related [01:45] heh, I see [01:47] I was trying to install the ipw3945 on hardy to try to solve the problem... but it fails to compile due to some ieee80211 subsystem include errors... [02:03] ipw3945 [02:09] how can I add my own town to the region list of the clock and weather applet? [02:15] I mean how can I create an entry for my hometown? is it possible? === Mohero is now known as Mohero|sleep [02:28] Is it just my connection, or main server is not working, I am geting error 404? [02:29] comicinker, from what i recall - the thing looks for gov. based weather stations. I just pick one thats at the nearest airport. [02:30] Dr_willis: gov. based weather stations? [02:33] Hello, where can I find info about whats new in Hard? [02:33] Hardy [02:34] Benalex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha5 [02:35] Flannel: Thanks [02:35] DanaG: you're always in here :P [02:35] is there any plan to enable usb persist in hardy kernels? [02:36] * Solarion wants the filesystem horkage to stop [02:36] * RAOF wonders what usb persist is. [02:36] * DanaG wonders what horkage is. [02:36] http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/usb/persist.txt [02:36] I also wonder whether UUIDs aren't the solution to your problem. [02:36] horkage == brekaage [02:36] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence [02:37] * DanaG wants USB devices to be released for real, like they do with Selective Suspend .... gives /sys/bus/usb/ .... power/state files. [02:37] RAOF: mass storage devices suddenly and violently disappearing is not a UUID issue [02:37] how can I enable multi-mouse in Hardy? I know that version of X server that comes with Hardy supports that, but I tried today, and nothing happend - no second cursor. :( [02:38] Solarion: Quite ture. [02:38] Solarion: Now that I know what you're talking about it's obvious. :) [02:39] :) [02:39] I need it for my eee [02:40] 4GB storage isn't enough, which is why I have a 16GB drive with project files and stuff on it. BUT the card reader is (built-in) USB [02:40] on uspend, reiserfs has a cow [02:40] On the other hand, that page *does* have a "you can _really_ break your stuff if you're not careful" disclaimer. [02:40] RAOF: having filesystem breakage is also broken [02:41] besides, once you compile it in, you still have to enable it in /sys/bus/usb/device/*/power/persist [02:41] Solarion: Unclean unmounting is infinitely better than the corruption you'd get if you did it wrong. [02:41] so just enablign it in the build would be huge [02:41] comicinker, http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/stationlocator.html [02:41] it's reported in the forums as working well [02:41] should i use QoS on my router? my ubuntu machine takes over our networks internet whenever i upload or download large files. [02:42] The forums are not really the userbase who'd kill all their data by changing a device while the lappy's suspended. [02:42] Im not sure that QoS will prevent that. [02:43] Solarion: I can see why you'd want it, and it does appear to be safely disabled by default. Why don't you file a bug against the kernel? [02:43] Ive noticed that copying files to/from windows box to/from linux box with samba - really lags my network. :( [02:43] yeah :\ windows didnt do it. of course windows networking is limited. m$ thinks most people have dialup. [02:43] RAOF: I was just asking in case [02:43] MS may be throttling down things. Ive never noticed. :) [02:43] Solarion: You'd have better luck asking in #ubuntu-kernel, of course :) [02:44] RAOF: actually, it has to be manually enabled in /sys, so nobody will know that it's enabled save for those who need to enable it [02:44] didn't knwo there was such a beast [02:44] But if it's not enabled at the moment, I'd suggest a LP bug. [02:44] heya [02:44] Dr_willis: throttiling down things? [02:44] err. is it me or are the fonts super bold after the last update [02:44] Solarion: Yeah, I know. It's safely disabled by default. A real solution would be that logical volume manager mentioned in the page :) [02:44] Assid, seems i get faster samba speeds from linux to windows.. then i do from windows to windows [02:45] oh thats cause of the size of the tcp window [02:45] there are some hacks to fix it i think [02:45] okay seriously whats up with the fonts [02:45] why are they so damn bold now [02:46] yeah. like i cant even play a game anymore while doing background work. my ping goes to 800+ haha. [02:46] Assid, i havent noticed. :) but im not on ubuntu at the moment. [02:46] hrmm you should see it [02:46] im seeing if QoS helps. should make smaller transfers, game and webbrowsing, higher priority then downloads. [02:46] as soon as you start up .. see the "Login" text [02:47] hmm. is auto-configuring X supposed to automagically configure back/forward buttons on mice too? because its, well, not [02:47] AtomicSpark: wouldnt that depend on your net [02:47] RAOF: sure, but this works and it exists, like the dude also says. ;) [02:47] RAOF: my main pont is that it'd harm nobody to have it enabled (since it still hhas to be turned on) and would helpa segment of the users immensely [02:48] Dr_willis: pretty awesome. thanks [02:49] Solarion: Yeah. I know. It's (sadly) a fairly small segment of users, though. I wouldn't expect the kernel team to object to enabling it, though. Which is why I suggest you ask them, either in #ubuntu-kernel, or (preferably) a bug :) === vorian is now known as vorian_ [02:54] comicinker, the gov has a lot of neat 'weather' monitoring systems, and even storm watcher volenteer networks [02:56] RAOF: bug #197166 [02:56] Launchpad bug 197166 in linux "[hardy] kernel should have usb persist mode built in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197166 [02:56] there ya go. :) [02:56] man, if that got enabled, my life oul be so much nicer [02:59] How do I download and install the hardy version of totem? [02:59] anyone know a way around this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/178400 [02:59] Launchpad bug 178400 in ubuntu "[Hardy] Xorg high CPU usage with 2.6.24 kernel and nvidia-glx" [Undecided,New] [02:59] !prevu | triorieel [02:59] triorieel: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details [03:00] someone should fix the damn scanner / usb permissions issues [03:00] Xorg is rocking the crap out of my cpu, heh [03:03] No dice i guess. [03:04] EnderTheThird: weird.. mines working fine [03:05] but then i do have 74 packages pending to update [03:06] none of them is nvidia-glx-new or xorg - nvidia related [03:06] It's really annoying when you find a bug, but it won't make a report. And it's really hard to explain and it's not possible to force it. [03:06] Assid: I've had some bad luck with this thing. You'd think that with a 2+ GHz CPU this thing wouldn't be puttering so bad. It's an Optiplex GX260, so it has intel integrated video, not nvidia like in that bug [03:07] It happens from time to time. [03:07] Zambezi: yeah been in that boat [03:08] still dont get whats up with these fonts [03:10] Assid: at least your display is working well enough to show fonts without lagging 20 minutes, heh [03:14] Anyone have the back/forward buttons on their mouse working? [03:14] I used to edit xorg.conf, but I'm not sure if there's a better way to do that now with the autoconfiguring and whatnot. [03:14] Nope, now evdev is broken. [03:15] You can't configure evdev through xorg.conf anymore. [03:15] Hmmm, well that's no fun. Guess it's a good thing I didn't put this on my primary machine. There's some wisdom to that whole "testing environment ONLY" thing [03:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/173833 [03:15] Launchpad bug 173833 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev "evdev mouse fails on hardy: cannot open input pEvdev" [Medium,Confirmed] [03:22] Assid: I'm going to look at it later. [03:53] anyone here using DVD-RAM discs [03:53] i am trying to do a udf format on several blank DVD-RAM discs [03:57] weirdness #1 -- compaq bl10e blade with hardy installed.. boots fine with generic kernel, won't boot with server kernel.. 9 other blades don't have a problem with it. [03:58] weirdness #2 -- blades with gutsy shut down when I hit toe power button, blades with hardy never do.. powerd or something? [03:58] s/toe/the [03:58] anyone alive in here? [04:18] Hi, if I keep getting audit errors in dmesg how do I fix them? [04:18] [52886.804380] audit(1204345009.493:38): operation="inode_permission" request_mask="::rw" denied_mask="::rw" name="/dev/tty" pid=20187 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" namespace="default" [04:18] ^example [04:20] gplflash, swfdec, gnash, or flash-non-free: which do you use and why? [04:23] k, so apparmor is the culprit... How do I stop apparmor from doing it's thing? [04:41] explain moar! [04:41] yeltsinator: explain moar! [04:41] I figured it out. [04:41] Now I'm running into a stranger error;) [04:42] whenever I try to print to my p1005 i get this: usblp0: removed [04:44] and you think its apparmor? [04:44] by default (in ubuntu) apparmor protects very little. i mean its stupid how little it protects. [04:44] did you add any profiles? [04:46] Argh, OpenOffice sucks at paragraphing. [04:47] lawl. [04:47] It keeps detaching headers from their paragraphs, and leaving whole pages blank. [04:47] hi DanaG! [04:47] Except for the heading it detached. [04:47] I just updated my kernel to 2.6.24-8-generic and instead of using the ipw3945 drivers for my wireless, it uses the ilw3945 drivers and it doesn't connect or associates with my router. [04:48] any pointers? [04:50] Hmm, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=985&num=1 [04:51] I hope to see a mobile one of those by summer. [04:52] and more ati support! [04:53] Im having major issues with gutsy and was wondering if there was an upgrade command to hardy (hoping this will fix my issues) [I know its not a pretty way to fix problems, but Ive hit my debugging limits] [04:53] How is ATI right now, anyway? [04:54] I just updated my kernel to 2.6.24-8-generic and instead of using the ipw3945 drivers for my wireless, it uses the ilw3945 drivers and it doesn't connect or associates with my router. [04:54] any pointers? [04:55] Hmm, WPA, WPA2, or what? [04:55] WPA [04:56] Hmm, I'm using WPA2 with no issues (other than the hassle caused by hidden SSID, because my dad insists on it even though it does nothing for security). [04:56] You can try doing "Connect to Other Wireless Network..." in NetworkManager and entering details manually. [04:56] well, my current router only has wpa. [04:56] I have done that. [04:57] Both methods (TKIP and AES)? [04:57] err [04:57] wtf.. my desktop icons are gone\ [04:57] whats wrong with this thing [04:58] TKIP [04:59] PEBKAC [04:59] AES > TKIP [04:59] :) [04:59] * DanaG goes to dinner. Will Be Back Later. [04:59] "bbl" looks like "bubble" to me. === steve__ is now known as vorian [05:09] is it just me or is everyone getting BADSIG error with apt? [05:35] err [05:35] mny desktop doesnt have any icons [05:43] So [05:43] I return [05:43] ...anybody else use virt-manager? [05:43] ..because it has a problem.. [05:43] that doesn't bother the leet people enough to fix it [05:44] ..because they don't use a GUI [05:44] it just won't let me use the CD drive [05:55] Hey all, any change with wine? [05:55] right now I can't get any wine version to run [06:12] wine >hic< [06:12] :) [06:20] hey Dr_willis [06:20] quick question, if I install hardy...will the updates take me out of the alpha versions with time? [06:20] Yes they should triorieel [06:20] thank you [06:20] look forward to a LOT of updates... :) iover the next few weeks [06:20] Dr_willis: do you expect Wine will function normally any time soon (next week or two)? [06:21] No idea Belboz91 - Theres a lot of other bits not functioning at this time id consider more imporntant [06:21] I agree, I've had a heck of a time just running the OS [06:21] could be fixed tomorrow.. or may be next week. :) hard to tell. check the forums/mailing lists/bug sites I guess [06:21] Belboz91, Yep. I am testing it on this box.. and its still got a lot-o-work. [06:22] my problem is that I'd like to try out some of my favorite games on my brand new AMD / ATI Radeon 3650 [06:22] but it has such PURTY new artwork! [06:22] but the card doesn't work on Gutsy :( [06:22] lol, yeah!~ [06:22] apt-get install hammer [06:22] hammer ati card to bits [06:22] :) [06:23] on Gutsy I get glxgears and every other 3D game smattered in blocks arcoss the screen in an odd checkeboard pattern [06:23] even when using the same Xorg,conf as Hardy [06:24] Hardy works, but I don't own any native Linux games [06:24] demo of ETQW plays pretty well though :) [06:24] I got some native linux games.. but they are major old comercial games. :0 [06:24] heh . Been playing Wesnoth lately [06:24] lol, nice [06:25] my wife loves that game [06:25] its a nifty game once ya get used to it. - im a big fan of the Advanced Wars game on the GB/DS also. [06:25] cool [06:25] wonder if ya could customize wesnoth into a similer thing [06:25] tonight I hooked up my HTPC to my receiver through SPDIF :) [06:26] Mythbuntu never sounded so good ;) [06:30] I wonder if theres a way i can get videos to play on an Unmoded Xbox.. [06:30] i got 2 of them in the closet. [06:32] Oh hey, did you know.... there's a dolby-digital encoding LADSPA plugin for ALSA? [06:35] LADSPA means nothing to me. :) [06:35] heh heh.. [06:37] Dr_willis: what artwork?! [06:37] I just bought this: [06:37] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134 [06:37] idont see no new artwork [06:37] Assid: there's that new Heron wallpaper [06:37] looks pretty nice btw [06:38] where?! its not in my wallpapers [06:38] Assid, the make me puke wallpaper. :) [06:38] imgshack [06:39] sorry, I'm not running hardy at the moment [06:39] Dr_willis: can do it [06:42] do what? [06:44] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF) [06:44] there's the thing about the dolby digital encoding. [06:46] is there a way to remaster hardy? [06:49] I have a question. Is the new sound system Hardy is going to use going to allow multiple applications to share the sound system? [06:49] like firefox&totem [06:49] Les_Caesars, I can do that allready. :) [06:50] but i do belive the new system will improve cases where the apps dont share nicely [06:50] Just have to install libasound2-plugins and libflashsupport [06:50] what's different about it? [06:51] thanks DanaG. I'll see how it turns out. Will this be something preinstalled with Hardy? [06:51] well, wait. This new sound system. Is it replacing, or just being used in favor of OSS and ALSA, which will still be there? [06:51] new wallpaper Dr_willis [06:52] libflashsupport makes Flash get along better with PulseAudio. [06:52] pulseaudio+vlc = evil [06:52] * Assid sticks to alsa [06:52] libasound2-plugins lets you 'asounconf set-pulseaudio' to wrap everything to PulseAudio. But, some stuff clashes horribly with that. [06:53] odd [06:53] libflashsupport isn't in my repo. Is that only in the Hardy repo? [06:53] err.. someone wanna show me the new artwork ? [06:53] i cant see anything on this box [06:54] warty-final-ubuntu ? [06:54] is that the one? [07:43] anyone know how to disable the keymanager that pops up at boot up? [07:43] i mean i've seen a few fixs on google, but they seem to have made thigns worse [08:05] wtf? tab-completion is BROKEN. [08:05] Not missing, but broken. [08:06] try typing 'less' and then tab-completing a path with spaces in several places, such as something on a Windows partition. [08:06] dana@GLaDOS:/media/XP/Documents and Settings/Dana/My Documents$ cd My\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ [08:06] DanaG: WFM. [08:06] I get all those slashes by holding TAB. [08:07] wfm? [08:07] wfm under bash, zsh. [08:07] works for me [08:08] Odd. [08:08] Oh, and opening new terminals in gnome-terminal opens them in the same path as the terminal I had open before. [08:09] Hay! you cant be GLaDOS! thats this pcs name! [08:09] :P [08:10] * Dr_willis steals the cake. [08:11] If I type 'less some doc" for "some document with spaces", and I get "less doc" [08:11] Yep. bash name completion with spaces.. can be a bother [08:12] less 'doc [08:12] often works for me [08:12] But I want 'some document" but it loses the 'some'. [08:12] quote the filename first beforhand. and it sometimes works. :) [08:13] but ive had funky file names that just do not want to tab complete right. :( [08:13] darn windows files.. [08:14] Even better is the /my documents/my videos/ path [08:14] it gives my documents/my \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ [08:14] * Dr_willis wonders what IDIOT at MS decided that putting 'my' in front of everything was better.. :) [08:15] I cant verify your bug DanaG :) not on ubuntu right now [08:15] * DanaG goes back in time and changes it to "Your" [08:15] What's even better is the "my documents" folder of OTHER users. [08:15] To at all implement spaces in filenames should be forbidden by law. [08:16] They'll show up sometimes as "my documents" and other times as "user's documents". Which is the real name? I don't have a clue -- it CHANGES! [08:18] ' in filenames is WORSE then spaces... :) [08:18] cd " ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' " [08:18] :) [08:19] touch ' ' [08:19] * Dr_willis makes a hidden directory called ' ' [08:19] touch `echo -e \\a' [08:19] touch `echo -e \\a` [08:19] Filename will be BEEP. [08:19] touch '--trytodeleteme' [08:19] :) [08:20] Naah, beep is better because you have to do the same backtick thing to remove it..... or use a GUI. [08:21] Another idea: touch '*' -- that one is evil. [08:29] !find libasound_module_pcm_a52 [08:29] Package/file libasound_module_pcm_a52 does not exist in hardy [08:30] Okay... where do I get that ALSA plugin, then? [08:34] Okay, it's in the alsa-plugins source package; now, how do I make it build that one? [08:42] bah, they broke sitecustomize [08:42] (.py) [08:42] and all for a stupid little apport hook [08:42] gah [08:52] Belboz91: Are you testing mythbuntu 8.04 for us? :) === tritium is now known as HDStrikeOut === kuechengarten is now known as thekorn_ [10:01] anyone here experiencing slow boot-up problems? it just sits there with the bouncing loading bar doing nothing... === Mohero|sleep is now known as Mohero [10:02] after removing the bootsplash via grup it boots up pretty fast [10:02] *gub [10:02] **grub [10:03] Anthony_Schneide: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? [10:03] let me check [10:04] nope [10:04] nanomad how much ram in that machine? [10:04] 1gig [10:04] bazhang - well, i think not - I have ubuntu studio and i have almost all soft i need there [10:04] 64bit nanomad? [10:05] no [10:05] bazhang - but i have installed some codecs, that are restricted [10:05] Anthony_Schneide: do you have java installed? [10:05] bazhang - i have tuxguitar in my Gutsy, and it works [10:05] nanomad when did you start seeing this problem [10:05] the problem is here from 2.6.24-5 [10:06] bazhang - how can i check to be sure? I have java for my firefok though... [10:06] well nanomad this is still only alpha 5, so.. [10:06] maybe it was a known bug [10:06] nanomad you could check launchpad and file a bug if not there [10:07] Anthony_Schneide: go into synaptic package manager and search for java [10:07] yea, for sure [10:07] nanomad no startup slowness here on a thinkpad with 2gig of ram [10:07] bazhang - ok! 1 moment... [10:08] though I do have a broken package from open office ;[ [10:08] gnome loads slow too, There must be sth wrong with my setup [10:08] nanomad seriously doubt it is on your end [10:09] bazhang - well, i have java common, some libs concerning java too. But there are a long list with aps [10:09] bazhang: no probs with oo.org [10:09] *there is [10:09] nanomad gutsy ran fine right? hardy should be as fast or faster [10:09] gutsy was ok [10:09] Anthony_Schneide: what about jave jre 6 [10:09] it didnt suffered the upgrade from feisty. hardy is a fresh install from alpha4 instead [10:10] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> is the java xcb lock up bug fixed? [10:10] no, not installed. Should i install it then? [10:10] nanomad well plenty of folks are having breakage--this is still early days ;] [10:10] Anthony_Schneide: it was missing the jre in that error you had right? [10:11] bazhang: i know, and leaving bootsplash disabled is not a problem for me [10:11] yeah, thanks :) you help me the 2nd time now :) thanks [10:11] bazhang - btw, i have asked another question, but there was noone to answer. Maybe you know a solution?I have ubuntu_studio and a little problem with it. I have chosen 1600x1200 resolution, but everytime I reload, it sets to 1280x1024 and I have to change it back manualy every time. Can you suggest a solution, maybe a sctipt that will change it automatically? [10:11] nanomad okay cool [10:12] Anthony_Schneide: what does xorg.conf say? [10:12] Anthony_Schneide: what card and what driver and how did you install it--some nvidia and ati users are having bad luck so far [10:13] nanomad - i haven't run it. ubuntu studio configured everything itself [10:14] bazhang - ati radeon 9800 xt 256 mb [10:14] bazhang - and i didn't install drivers too [10:14] use the pastebin and give us the /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:14] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Bug #86103 [10:14] Launchpad bug 86103 in sun-java5 "azureus-> java: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86103 [10:14] maybe the automatic xorg configurator is going mad [10:15] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> hum... [10:15] bazhang - in gutsy everythin works [10:15] Anthony_Schneide: well it is final so no surprises there ;] [10:15] nanomad - pastebin? can you suggest what is it? [10:16] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Anthony_Schneide, www.pastebin.com? [10:16] bazhang - yeah :) but i love testing alpha and aolve problems :) i really want to learn linux this way [10:16] >google human computation [10:17] Anthony_Schneide: I hear you ;] you might want to try installing some drivers for that card via the restricted drivers manager [10:17] !pastebin [10:17] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [10:17] Anthony_Schneide: see what ubotu said [10:17] bazhang - i tried :) and my system crashed :) well in gutsy too. not crashed but screen gone mad [10:18] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !botsnack [10:18] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [10:18] bazhang - i tried standart driver and oficial from ATI web site [10:19] ubotu - thanks, ill be back with a link... [10:19] Anthony_Schneide: dont tell me envy please [10:19] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> envy still breaks stuff? [10:19] !envy | [Hardy]TuTUXG [10:19] [Hardy]TuTUXG: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver » [10:19] yes [Hardy]TuTUXG [10:20] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> um.. [10:20] envy has always broken stuff. :) [10:20] haha [10:20] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i knew that [10:20] envy? is it a driver for ATI? [10:20] and now there is envyNG made to break Hardy specifically ;] [10:20] !envy [10:20] envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver » [10:20] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i thought they have better collaboration with ubuntu now, guess not [10:20] heh they cleaned up the factoid. [10:21] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !automix [10:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about automix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [10:21] yeah, i dont see the point of using envy in hardy. we got the latest driver here [10:21] well the maker of envy says on his blog that ubuntu developers helped him design EnvyNG so we shall see [10:21] Its so nice when people like the presdent of Dell come out saying Ubuntu should include automatix (i think it was him) when theres very strong LEGAL reasons it cant be included. [10:22] bazhang, that would be nice. If it gets support from the ubuntu higherups. [10:22] at least envy tries to do one thing. not everything. [10:22] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i thought envy is just bunch of scripts [10:22] Dr_willis: it sure would--could give the bot a rest ;] [10:22] well - here is my xorg.conf - http://pastebin.com/d46b648b [10:22] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ya, i am anti-envy [10:22] Automatix - tries to do a lot of things. envy is just for the video drivers [10:22] Unless its changed lately [10:22] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !automatix [10:22] automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe » [10:23] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ... [10:23] automatix is much worse imo [10:23] nanomad - check my config please http://pastebin.com/d46b648b [10:23] automatix is much MUCH MUCH MUCH worse [10:23] :) [10:24] Anthony_Schneide: change line 16 from true to false and see what happens [10:24] Anthony_Schneide: maybe fbdev limits your resolution [10:25] but what is "FBDev" [10:25] Hmm.. Stage6 is gone.. but the web pages i saved from stage6 still work.. :) lol. [10:25] i should of saved more to download the videos at this time. [10:25] Anthony_Schneide: open as root /etc/X11/xorg.conf with a text editor (kate/gedit) [10:25] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Dr_willis, ya, stage6 is gone, sucks.. [10:26]