[03:36] <kirkland_> keescook: you're missing out  :)
[03:37] <keescook> kirkland_: hehe.  more video game music?
[03:39] <kirkland_> irish band in the front half pplaying traditional music, cheesy cover band in the back playing 'rosana--meechu all da way....'
[03:40] <keescook> hehe.  typing with a stylus?
[03:42] <kirkland_> I wish.  qwersive and rosana al da way.
[03:42] <kirkland_> back to beer.  bye.
[04:14] <faulkes-> evening nijaba
[04:14] <nijaba> evening faulkes-
[04:14] <kgoetz> hi both
[04:14] <nijaba> hey kgoetz
[04:15] <kgoetz> hello
[04:18] <efren30> i need help please i just installed ubunut everything working perfect except one thing i installed a visual effect and was working fine the windows would wobble wen i grabbed them etc.. i kept meesing around with it to get the 3-d cube and now the visual effect says none and when i try putting extra it says desktop effects could not be endab le please help and thanks.
[04:18] <efren30> i need help please i just installed ubunut everything working perfect except one thing i installed a visual effect and was working fine the windows would wobble wen i grabbed them etc.. i kept meesing around with it to get the 3-d cube and now the visual effect says none and when i try putting extra it says desktop effects could not be endab le please help and thanks.
[04:19] <faulkes-> nijaba: saw my messages from earlier?
[04:20] <kgoetz> efren30: thats a question for #ubuntu or #ubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <faulkes-> efren: the unbuntu server does not ship with X installed
[04:20] <kgoetz> definately not an #ubuntu-server question
[04:20]  * faulkes- nods at kgoetz
[04:20]  * faulkes- wouldn't want his servers wobbling
[04:20] <efren30> wich cahnnel is related?
[04:21] <efren30> please that would help alot and thanks
[04:21] <nijaba> faulkes-: not sure...  oh btw, I just realized that, for some reazon, my nickserv password was not accepted anymore and all the msgs I have sent you today did not get through...
[04:21] <kgoetz> efren30: the ones i pointed you to. #ubuntu or #ubuntu-desktop
[04:21] <faulkes-> doh
[04:21] <efren30> thanks jus noticed
[04:21] <faulkes-> nijaba: ah, the server-survey in your trunk didn't appear to be v0.2 when I pulled from it
[04:22] <faulkes-> I exported .csv directly from lime and did changes there and then pushed it to my branch
[04:22] <nijaba> faulkes: revision 9 was and 10 is now merged with your changes
[04:23]  * faulkes- nods
[04:23] <faulkes-> ok
[04:24] <faulkes-> wasn't a big deal to re-input the changes anyways, think it only took a half hour but it was useful all the same as I got more familiar with limesurvey
[04:25] <faulkes-> then I took a very very long nap ;)
[04:25] <nijaba> faulkes-: thanks for all the work
[04:25] <faulkes-> now I'm trying to get v0.2 of the server forum stats stuff ready for next week
[04:25] <faulkes-> which is going rather well
[04:25] <soren> sommer: No, I haven't looked at the virtualisation section yet. Sorry. Could you send me the link again, please?
[04:33] <faulkes-> I'd love to have a look at that as well
[04:33] <faulkes-> if at all posible
[04:35] <nijaba> soren: sommer sent an email with the section attached
[04:36] <nijaba> soren: the email was sent yesterday at 10:42 EST
[04:37] <soren> Awesome. To whom?
[04:40] <nijaba> shawarma@u.c
[04:42] <nijaba> soren: guess you may not have received it, want me to forward?
[04:43] <nijaba> well.  done it anyway (and to faulkes- as well)
[04:44]  * nijaba about to go to bed.  good night *
[04:44] <kgoetz> later mate
[04:47] <faulkes-> well, that makes me feel better, just removes about 50 lines of code and replaced it with 10
[07:38] <rhineheart_m> hello! Can postfix and sendmail mail server can at the same time without any problems?
[07:40] <ScottK> No
[07:40] <ScottK> They both listen on port 25 and so they cannot be installed together.
[07:42] <rhineheart_m> Thanks ScottK.. apt-get remove --purge sendmail (will remove the configuration and the sendmail itself right?)
[07:44] <ScottK> rhineheart_m: It will, but the packages are also set to conflict.
[07:44] <ScottK> rhineheart_m: apt-get install postfix will also cause sendmail to be removed if it's installed (the config won't be purged, but postfix isn't affected by that).
[07:47] <rhineheart_m> ScottK: I have webmin...my postfix is now functioning well (except sometimes it has delays in php mail() function)...when I checked in sendmail Mail server section..it's still there... I just don't know why..but its status is stop. what's the best way to handle this? can I execute "apt-get remove --purge sendmail " without harming the configuration of my postfix?
[07:48] <ScottK> Not really as you've already uninstalled Sendmail.  You'd have to reinstall it to purge it.
[07:48] <ScottK> Be warned that the way webmin manages config files is fundamentally incompatible with the way Debian/Ubuntu manage config files.
[07:48] <ScottK> Eventually webmin will make you cry.
[07:54] <rhineheart_m> ScottK: M aware with it..but I guess webmin still serving its purpose to me.. its just a matter of carefulness in terms of handling config files..
[07:55] <ScottK> OK
[07:55] <ScottK> I would either reinstall sendmail and then purge it and then reisntall postfix or just ignore it.
[07:56] <rhineheart_m> ScottK: I will just ignore it.. thanks Scott
[08:30] <rhineheart_m> How to prevent other users to log to ssh? only the root..or a specified user..
[08:30] <kgoetz> man 5 sshd_config
[08:34] <rhineheart_m> Thanks Karl
[10:36] <rhineheart_m> >	won't it create issue if dovecot and postfix are both running in a mailserver?
[10:39] <Nafallo> no
[10:39] <Nafallo> why?
[10:40] <rhineheart_m> just asking.. courier-IMAP+postfix+dovecot
[10:40] <Nafallo> hmm
[10:40] <Nafallo> you know dovecot is an IMAP client as well, right?
[10:41] <rhineheart_m> yeah...so I have them all running in my server..
[10:42] <rhineheart_m> Is it a right decision.. or you want me to run only postix_dovecot
[10:42] <Nafallo> ehrm. it's not my server.
[10:43] <rhineheart_m> so...what's your recommendation? postfix+dovecot?
[10:43] <Nafallo> no. I don't recommend something special.
[10:44] <Nafallo> I run postfix+dovecot+postgresql, but that has nothing to do with it.
[10:45] <rhineheart_m> okay.. I am trying to figure out actually why php mail() function is delayed..
[10:47] <rhineheart_m> what's the best client for php mail() function?
[14:26]  * faulkes- grumbles at DBI
[14:47] <MDK332211> Do I just sudo apt-get install vncserver to install a VNC server?
[16:46] <soulc> I get this error in my log files .....
[16:46] <soulc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57965/
[16:46] <Nafallo> file a bug or something then? :-)
[17:17] <soulc> any idea where I cna get help with fail2ban?
[17:21] <soulc> when I start fail2ban I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57966/
[17:25] <soulc> nevermind pasting error
[17:25] <soulc> doh!
[17:35] <soulc> but I still have an error in the anti-virus/spam software
[17:43] <rhineheart_m> IS antivirus needed for ubuntu server?
[17:43] <Nafallo> depends
[17:44] <rhineheart_m> what do you mean with depends?
[17:44] <Nafallo> you don't need it for the sake of the server.
[17:44] <rhineheart_m> okay..so I won't need it right?
[17:45] <Nafallo> no idea.
[17:45] <Nafallo> only you can answer that question since you are the one that knows your network environment.
[17:51] <rhineheart_m> can you suggest enabling UPNP in a router?
[17:53] <faulkes-> rhineheart: that is router specific and not really related to ubuntu
[17:53] <faulkes-> check your vendor's manual
[17:54] <faulkes-> hmm, guess I missed him
[17:57] <soulc> I am using it to scan server side and trap spam as well
[18:00] <soulc> I want to use my domain email and the amount of crap I was getting prevented that
[18:16] <soulc> so does anyone know where I can get some help with clamav?
[18:18] <soulc> I have to figure out where the socket file is and set the config file to to it
[18:19] <sommer> hey all
[18:22] <sommer> faulkes-: did you get a the virt section?  I sent it to just a few not to exclude anyone, but just for a quick yay or nay on if it's on the right track
[18:22] <sommer> I'd be more than happy to send it to you
[18:32] <faulkes-> sommer: actually, nijaba ninja'd it over to me ;)
[18:33] <faulkes-> I gave it a bit of a read last night, it looked ok, but I'll go more in depth later today and take some notes
[18:33] <faulkes-> lots on my plate though right now
[18:34] <faulkes-> between course exams next week, coding and that actual making a living being paid at something thing I do ;)
[18:35] <sommer> faulkes-: cool, I appreciate it
[18:36] <faulkes-> np
[18:37] <faulkes-> I've been on a roll though, released fixes for a bunch of the survey stuff, updated my forum stats code to use a database to store patterns
[18:39] <sommer> party!
[18:39] <sommer> I've always liked data in base form
[18:41] <faulkes-> I figured if other teams/groups were going to use it, it would be best to have a common well understood medium like sql used for certain parts
[18:42] <faulkes-> like, storing, retrieving data ;)
[18:42] <faulkes-> but that's just me and the voices in my head talking to me ;)
[18:43] <sommer> heh, I'm with ya... don't hear the voices though
[18:44] <faulkes-> yes well, mostly they say "get another glass of scotch" and truth be told, it's kind of hard to argue that
[18:45] <rjune> that's sound logic
[18:46] <rjune> soulc: /etc/init.d/clamav-daemon should create it
[19:27] <luckyone> does anyone in here know how to connect to a remote instance of mysql through ssh?
[19:27] <Nafallo> login to the box and run mysql as usual
[19:28] <kriel> Anyone know how to get a framebuffer to work on ubuntu-server?
[19:29] <faulkes-> luckyone: ssh tunnel, see the ssh manpage regarding local and remote port forwarding
[19:30] <faulkes-> I'm getting slow in my old age
[19:40] <sommer> anyone else testing eBox?
[19:48] <dantalizing> sommer: started to, but requires postgres... a bug, imo
[19:49] <sommer> dantalizing: hehhehehe
[19:49] <sommer> ya, I thought that was a little strange myself
[19:49] <sommer> I'm finding the all round experience to be quite buggy... and was wondering what others were experiencing
[19:51] <dantalizing> iirc, i also couldnt find a way to get rid of the bind dependency, but cant say i spent a lot of time on trying
[19:52] <sommer> I don't think the new package installed bind, but I installed the DNS module :-)
[19:53] <sommer> I have libvirt-bin installed which creates a vnet0 interface for vms and the eBox network modules borked
[19:53] <dantalizing> ah that was another thing
[19:53] <sommer> had the default gateway through the vnet0 interface even though the gateway in the web interface was configured through the actual nic
[19:53] <dantalizing> nm...i have to reinstall and remember exactly what happened....but it didnt install properly under openvz either
[19:54] <dantalizing> some piece was looking for eth0
[19:54] <sommer> heh... I'm thinking for hardy it really shouldn't be hyped up very much
[19:54] <jetole> hey guys, does anyone know if it is possible to have syslog-ng write data to two files simultaneously?
[19:54] <sommer> jetole: sure is
[19:55] <jetole> do you know how because I have googled it so far and havn't had much luck
[19:55] <sommer> uh... not off the top of my head
[19:55] <jetole> hmmm
[19:55] <jetole> I will keep looking
[19:56] <sommer> I think if you configure a filter for say email messages then setup destinations using the same filter it should work
[19:56] <jetole> but you know for sure it works? I have just installed psad which wants all firewall data writen to a fifo and is no longer in /var/log/syslog
[19:56] <dantalizing> sommer: i tried to install all the plugins, so i cant say which pieces worked and which didnt ... there may have been some of it that was fine ... but the kitchen sink install wasnt good for me
[19:57] <sommer> I think if you configure a source in syslog-ng using the same fifo you can then configure a filter to use the source and a destination that uses a filter
[19:57] <sommer> dantalizing: ya... my approach has been to test individual packages, then move on the the whole enchilada
[19:58] <sommer> but dns depends on networking, objects, etc
[19:59] <dantalizing> just tried to install ebox-all and got this:
[19:59] <dantalizing> Setting up ebox-objects (0.9.3-0ubuntu4) ...
[19:59] <dantalizing> objects is not a valid module name
[19:59] <dantalizing> invoke-rc.d: initscript ebox, action "objects" failed.
[19:59] <dantalizing> Setting up vlan (1.9-2build1) ...
[19:59] <dantalizing> Setting up libnet-arp-perl (1.0-1) ...
[19:59] <dantalizing> Setting up ebox-network (0.9.3-0ubuntu3) ...
[19:59] <dantalizing> Can't call method "setIfaceStatic" on an undefined value at /usr/share/ebox-network/ebox-netcfg-import line 87, <FD> line 22.
[19:59] <sommer> mmmMM... are you using zul's ppa?
[20:00] <dantalizing> thought so
[20:00] <dantalizing> ah..no
[20:00] <sommer> the ebox package is at ppa2 and the others are ppa1
[20:01] <sommer> ^^ versions
[20:01] <dantalizing> i know i set it up..musta been on a different box
[20:02] <sommer> ah... I sent zul a few of the errors I recieved when working with some of the modules, but I didn't want to flood his inbox :-)
[20:02] <sommer> I think I'm going to try and work through some of the code and what not
[20:04] <dantalizing> zul's stuff was hardy, no?
[20:04] <dantalizing> havent set up a hardy system under openvz yet
[20:05] <sommer> dantalizing: yep, hardy packages
[20:06] <alstone> how is it going y'all?
[20:07] <dantalizing> alstone i'm so bored i'm installing ebox
[20:07]  * dantalizing should go outside
[20:09] <dantalizing> wow the hardy packages installed with no fuss
[20:28] <alstone> what is ebox?
[20:29] <sommer> ebox!
[20:29] <sommer> @ebox
[20:30]  * sommer forgets how to use ubotu
[20:30] <sommer> alstone: it's a web configuration framework for servers
[20:30] <sommer> http://ebox-platform.com/
[20:33] <alstone> thanks
[20:35] <rjune> ebox doesn't seem to be so great though
[20:35] <alstone> really
[20:35] <rjune> GOsa looks to be better based on what I've seen
[20:37] <alstone> I guess if I had a business server production environment Ithat would need to change as employees/business needs change then a configuration tool would be needed but once I get my server configured I won't have to change it...   |-)
[20:39] <rjune> fair enough
[20:40] <rjune> just based on what I've seen, gosa looks better then ebox.
[20:40] <rjune> mostly it's just one more thing to look at
[20:44] <alstone> true
[20:45] <alstone> so now that I got you
[20:45] <alstone> I installed anti-virus and anti-spam on my server
[20:46] <alstone> I get an error message for clamav
[20:46] <alstone> can't open file which is the socket file
[20:46] <rjune> ok
[20:47] <alstone> any clues on how to figure out how to have the file created or set it not to use it
[20:47] <rjune> LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl
[20:48] <alstone> right
[20:48] <rjune> I think mkfifo is what you want
[20:48] <alstone> ok
[20:48] <rjune> but I think the initscript should create it
[20:48] <alstone> have sub on phone
[20:48] <rjune> more fun to have sub in front of yo
[20:48] <rjune> you
[20:49] <alstone> yeah
[20:50] <alstone> I work at time warner cable in the notheast
[20:50] <alstone> sub=customer
[20:50] <alstone> so the init script isn't creating it
[20:51] <alstone> I keep getting the error in the log file that logwatch mails me
[20:52] <rjune> ok, I think it's a fifo, but I don't remember
[21:02] <alstone> any idea where I can go to read up on this?
[21:12] <AtomicSpark> I am about to redo one of my servers with Ubuntu, it has 2 GB of ram. Is there any reason I would want the 64 bit version?
[21:38] <ScottK> alstone: Did you get the clamav socket problem figured out?
[21:48] <alstone> nope not yet....|-(
[21:53] <ScottK> alstone: How are you integrating clamav?  Are you using amavisd-new with Postfix?
[21:54] <zul> hey ScottK
[21:54] <alstone> yeah I am
[21:55] <alstone> not to knowledgable just followed instructions on ubuntu doc site
[21:58] <ScottK> alstone: It's been a while since I set amavisd-new up, but IIRC you have to add the amavisd-new user (amavis I think) to the clamav group so it can read the socket.
[21:59] <alstone> I am pretty sure I did that the problem is that the socket isn't there
[21:59] <ScottK> OK
[22:00] <ScottK> alstone: What's the output (pastebin please) of ps -AF|grep clam
[22:01] <alstone> kk
[22:12] <alstone> may I have the paste-bin url plz?
[22:15] <ScottK> !pastebin
[22:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:16] <alstone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58007/
[22:25] <ScottK> Looking
[22:25] <ScottK> alstone: Are you on Gutsy?
[22:28] <alstone> yes
[22:31] <ScottK> alstone: What happens if you try sudo /etc/init.d/clamav-daemon start
[22:40] <alstone> nothing
[22:40] <alstone> no errors or anything
[22:44] <faulkes-> and the logs?
[22:45] <alstone> ok
[22:50] <Moe|Joe> hey
[22:50] <Moe|Joe> i got a dedicated server running ubuntu server 7.10
[22:50] <Moe|Joe> and im running a counter strike source server on it
[22:50] <david> hmm.. I thought I was in here already
[22:51] <alstone> I can't find the error about the socket everthing else is just reporting results
[22:51] <Moe|Joe> just i want to know how i can set this as a service so if the box ever goes down, css starts up again
[22:51] <ScottK> alstone: Clamav logs are in /var/log/clamav.  Did you find anything?
[22:52] <Moe|Joe> anyone?
[22:52] <ScottK> Moe|Joe: When you start it manually, how do you do it?
[22:52] <Moe|Joe> i type this
[22:53] <Moe|Joe> "./srcds_run -game cstrike -autoupdate +maxplayers 20 +map de_aztec > /dev/null 2>&1 &"
[22:53] <alstone> well they stop Unix socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl
[22:54] <ScottK> alstone: Please pastebin the log
[22:54] <alstone> this is all the reference to that socket file
[22:54] <alstone> ok
[22:55] <Moe|Joe> ScottK: any ideas?
[22:56] <ScottK> Moe|Joe: Write that into a one line init script and install it in /etc/rc*.d
[22:57] <alstone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58019/
[22:57] <carnegie> hey @ all, I've a configuration problem with my php version. for example if I'm on localhost and click on a php file, firefox asks me to download it but doesn't show it directly
[22:57] <Moe|Joe> ScottK: how do i go about tht? ive never needed to tht before
[22:57] <carnegie> Flannel from #ubuntu told me to ask here
[23:03] <alstone> this is where I got the instructions
[23:03] <alstone> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixAmavisNew
[23:03] <ScottK> Moe|Joe: Here's the background.
[23:03] <ScottK> alstone: I missed that you'd pasted the logs.  Lookging now.
[23:04] <Moe|Joe> wheres the background?
[23:04] <ScottK> Moe|Joe: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s-sysvinit is the link I meant to give you ...
[23:04] <ScottK> Sorry
[23:04] <Moe|Joe> cheers
[23:05] <ScottK> alstone: From the logs it looks like something is stopping it.
[23:05] <alstone> unforunatly the error is in the syslog email which I can't get to
[23:06] <Moe|Joe> blah its to late for me to be lookin at this
[23:06] <Moe|Joe> lol
[23:06] <Moe|Joe> nothing is clicking
[23:09] <ScottK> alstone: How about in /var/log/syslog?
[23:16] <carnegie> good night @ all
[23:16] <Moe|Joe> ScottK: u able to make me a script i can install?
[23:17] <ScottK> Moe|Joe: I'm able, but don't have time currently.  I'm busy with $WORK today.
[23:17] <Moe|Joe> ah ok
[23:18] <david> damn this takes time :P
[23:19] <david> migrating/mirroring between hdds over network
[23:19] <david> 1TB
[23:19] <david> including reorganising and manual versionchecks :B
[23:31] <CharlieSu> What is the best way to see what program is eating up IO on a linux system?
[23:31] <CharlieSu> I'm doing a vmstat and seeing my 'wa' variable really high
[23:55] <alstone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58033/
[23:57] <alstone> ScottK that is the error that is sent in logwatch