[00:00] <edju> Pelo, thanks.  what about the libs - libao2, libasound2, etc.  they're separate from alsa, no?
[00:00] <aghachi> scuzini well that reversed but it cannot be removed now.... lol
[00:00] <pak> the bot msg me again?
[00:00] <pak> compfiz bot
[00:00] <Pelo> edju, generaly everything is seperate in linux,  you shouldn'T have to touch those
[00:00] <j_> ...
[00:00] <Starnestommy> pak: try /msg ubotu !compiz
[00:01] <pak> try /msg ubotu !compiz
[00:01] <Scunizi> aghachi, where exactly did you go in the menu to find what you're running... I don't see it anywhere.
[00:01] <ompaul> %test
[00:01] <binaries-AP1> bindigoat: i bet you thought that was a usefull feature and why dont i have one of those on my system
[00:01] <Pelo> !test | ompaul
[00:01] <ubotu> ompaul: Failed.
[00:01] <ompaul> !test
[00:02] <Jorge_> I installed unbuntu on top of pclos and windows xp but the boot loader did not come up....I can only boot from pclos and windows xp....any help?
[00:02] <aghachi> scunzini i ran these 2 codes first, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings then to acess the menu gksudo nvidia-settings
[00:02] <j_> Hi I have  I have question I want install nvtv tv out It gave me warning "You are babout to install sofware that can't be authenticated ... b/c i can't get around setthing s/video to t.video"
[00:02] <aghachi> babout
[00:02] <cjones_> try /msg ubotu !compiz
[00:02] <x3on> hey, what is the difference between Ubuntu and Linux Mint?
[00:03] <ompaul> cjones_, what was that for?
[00:03] <Kanuha> need advice, I have a hp pavilion laptop with vista. I need to keep vista due to work programs, but I want to add ubuntu or kubuntu. If I load ubuntu, will grub be the boot loader like on my desktop with xp, or will I have to set it up through vista?
[00:03] <Scunizi> aghachi, how bout just running nvidia-settings all by itself?
[00:03]  * beautifulsnow is thinking of reinstalling ubuntu like this: ubuntu-server, then gnome-core + kde core, + apps as needed by me... does this sound like a good idea?
[00:03] <Pelo> Jorge_,I can give you a copy of my /boot/grub/menu.lst and you can copy/edit the lines you need for ubuntu how is that ?
[00:03] <DIL> is it safe to say that if xp will run on a box so will ubuntu?
[00:03] <Slart> x3on: one was created by an south african millionaire.. the other not =)
[00:03] <Scunizi> Kanuha, I think grub
[00:03] <aghachi> scunizi: what do u mean/how
[00:03] <Tho1> DIL - yes
[00:03] <DIL> ty
[00:03] <yuji1> Ubuntu and XP can be set on one box yeah.
[00:03] <Scunizi> aghachi, without gksudo
[00:03] <icesword> !dualboot > Kanuha
[00:03] <Jorge_> Pelo....I would love to know how to edit
[00:03] <yuji1> Grub can be of some help too.
[00:03] <ompaul> !minimal > beautifulsnow (this would be a better starting point)
[00:03] <x3on> Install XP first yuji1
[00:04] <yuji1> Anyways. *goes back to his business*
[00:04] <yuji1> XP is preferred first, yes.
[00:04] <beautifulsnow> Wewt thanks ompaul!
[00:04] <Pelo> Jorge_, you'll figure it out
[00:04] <binaries-AP1> !poll
[00:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:04] <Scunizi> aghachi, what are you trying to change? resolution?
[00:04] <aghachi> scunizi: ? im completly n00b to this command stuff and ubuntu i dont get waht u mean
[00:04] <Slart> x3on: I think they are both based on debian.. both use apt...I'm not sure what the differences are.. but since we get many mint users here I guess they have somewhat less community support
[00:04] <Scunizi> aghachi, what are you trying to change with nvidia-settings?
[00:04] <Jorge_> Pelo, if you could point me in the right direction?
[00:04] <yuji1> Curious, anyone know how to install ZD1211RW driver on Ubuntu? My linux generic doesn't have all req files.
[00:05] <Marbug> it seems I don't have the verdana fonds for firefox, how can I get them ?
[00:05] <Kanuha> Scunizi, icesword , thx!
[00:05] <Pelo> Jorge_, hold on ,I'm pastebining my menu.list file
[00:05] <icesword> np:)
[00:05] <Slart> !fonts | Marbug
[00:05] <yuji1> Marbug why not try adding more fonts in synaptic?
[00:05] <Kamusq_>  hello
[00:05] <ubotu> Marbug: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[00:05] <icesword> Kamusq_, olleh
[00:05] <Marbug> I don't know which packaga :o
[00:05] <Kamusq_>  can i enable inotify in a compiled kernel without compile it again? i've made a f#### mistake and hal doesn't starts
[00:05] <Marbug> and I can't find it
[00:06] <Jorge_> I just don't understand why Ubuntu installed correctly but the bootloader did not
[00:06] <aghachi> scunizi: position of second monitor and enable xinerama (did it before) and resolution of my second monitor but it doesnt show more than 640x480
[00:06] <Slart> Marbug: I think it's in the msttcorefonts package
[00:06] <Zasch> Hello. Is it possible to install Windows on a different partition after Ubuntu has been installed?
[00:06] <Pelo> Jorge_, probably because stage one of grub is still pointing to the menu.lst in your pclos partition
[00:06] <Yuji1_Saeki> Ah yes, much better.
[00:06] <amenado> Zasch-> yes
[00:07] <Yuji1_Saeki> I wonder...
[00:07] <ere4si> !dualboot | Zasch
[00:07] <ubotu> Zasch: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[00:07] <Kamusq_>  can i enable inotify in a compiled kernel without compile it again? i've made a f#### mistake and hal doesn't starts
[00:07] <Yuji1_Saeki-[TS2> Gah, too long.
[00:07] <Jorge_> Pelo, Ubuntu does not overwrite that?
[00:07] <Pelo> Jorge_, then you might just want toget the supergrub cd and point stageone to the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in your ubuntu partiton
[00:07] <beautifulsnow> ompaul: About that minimal CD: since I am handpicking which apps to install, won't I be at risk that some hardware doesnt work out of the box? (my Dell Latitude D820 works 100% out of the box with a full Ubuntu install)
[00:07] <Yuji1_Saeki> It works I guess.
[00:07] <brobostigon> Yuji1: i have a zd1211rw based usb wifi, and everythings work properly for me, i didint have to change anything, it just worked.
[00:07] <Pelo> Jorge_, it should but I am thinknig it might have not
[00:07] <cjones_> i am looking for a program that will let me do screen capture video
[00:07] <binaries-AP1> zasch: try the other way around for driver recognition issues
[00:07] <Yuji1_Saeki> brobostigon I installed mine (by just plugging it up) but it showed up as an eth!!!
[00:07] <icesword> !apt-spy
[00:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-spy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:07] <Marbug> yes, Slart I remember it back now :) th
[00:07] <Yuji1_Saeki> Eth2 lol
[00:07] <Marbug> thx
[00:08] <Zasch> binaries-AP1: What do you mean "driver recognition issues"?
[00:08] <Yuji1_Saeki> BESIDES...trying to get aircrack going so I can audit my environment.
[00:08] <Scunizi> aghachi, ah.. you're dual monitoring.. ubuntu now uses xRANDr or something similar.  xinerama can be loaded but nvidia-settings I don't think will change your resolution.  You have to hand configure xorg.conf for xinerama to work. It's a function of X not your video driver necessarily
[00:08] <DIL> cjones_: wm recorder?
[00:08] <ompaul> beautifulsnow, well now if that is a risk factor in your book then I would suggest grabbing more than one CD for the install fest that you are about to entertains
[00:08] <Yuji1_Saeki> (Believe it or not, a genuine cause!)
[00:08] <cjones_> dil can i apt get it ?
[00:08] <DIL> cjones_: no no sry
[00:08] <Yuji1_Saeki> I host an apartment wifi spot, yeah.
[00:08] <Jorge_> Pelo...well, I'm at a loss here.....pclos just keeps starting up
[00:08] <Pelo> Jorge_, in anycase ,  here is a paste of my own menu.lst file, just find the menu.lst file in your pclos partiton and add the ubuntu menu entries to it,  change the (hd#,#) lines in the lines you copy to relfect the partitons ubuntu is isntalled in
[00:08] <cjones_> dil is it gnu ?
[00:09] <brobostigon> yuji1: mines zd1211rw based too, and it just worked straight out,
[00:09] <ere4si> beautifulsnow, it is the kernel that detects hardware and that is the same - minimal or full
[00:09] <DIL> cjones_: thinking of something else
[00:09] <Pelo> Jorge_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57895/
[00:09] <DIL> cjones_: no
[00:09] <Scunizi> aghachi, check out http://www.lockergnome.com/linux/2007/06/18/dual-monitors-with-ubuntu/
[00:09] <Yuji1_Saeki> brobostigon Mine too, but it shows up as an ETH. I disabled roaming and closed properties and now it shows wireless configs even though it is an eth (as it says!)
[00:09] <Jorge_> Pelo, I'm just not sure what to do with the information you've given me....how do I edit the file?
[00:09] <glatek> ELo
[00:09] <Jorge_> Pelo, and what file
[00:10] <Jorge_> Pelo, and where?
[00:10] <Kamusq_>  can i enable inotify in a compiled kernel without compile it again? i've made a f#### mistake and hal doesn't starts
[00:10] <Zasch> The problem that I am having is that, when I put in my XP CD, it doesn't recognise that my harddrive already has partitions :) It just says "C: Unknown Partition", when I have a 30GB partition just waiting for XP :(
[00:10] <Pelo> Jorge_, just open it with a text editor in pclos,   not sure wht you have in there nano maybe,  so try sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:10] <brobostigon> yuji1: mines shows as eth1, eth0 is my built in nic,
[00:10] <Scunizi> Zasch, is that partition formatted?
[00:10] <Marbug> Slart, it seems the fonds arn't added to firefox :o
[00:10] <Yuji1_Saeki> brobo: Yes but it should be wlan0 or wlan1
[00:10] <Yuji1_Saeki> Eh, anyways...
[00:10] <Jorge_> pelo, i'm in PCLinuxOS
[00:11] <Zasch> Scunizi: Yes, it is. The XP installer lists my whole hard drive as 1 unknown partition
[00:11] <Yuji1_Saeki> So say I got that working. How would I use the patch from aircrack-ng on it?
[00:11] <Yuji1_Saeki> To enable monitoring mode.
[00:11] <Jorge_> Pelo, not sure where to find it
[00:11] <Pelo> Jorge_, open a terminal windows ,  type   locate menu.lst
[00:11] <brobostigon> yuji1: and i configure mine permenently in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:11] <Yuji1_Saeki> I'm new to Ubuntu so yeah.
[00:11] <Scunizi> Zasch, does it have anything else on it?  like ubuntu?
[00:11] <Zasch> Scunizi: The 30GB partition doesn't, no
[00:11] <Pelo> Yuji1_Saeki, please stop using the enter key for punctuation , it scrolls the channel up needlessly
[00:11] <Jorge_> pelo,done
[00:12] <binaries-AP1> Zasch: for this reason create a windows partition ( with gparted ) and install it there first, update the system, and then only then once you have a nice driver compilation on your back up hd , install unix
[00:12] <Pelo> Jorge_, you have the path to menu.lst in there ?
[00:12] <Yuji1_Saeki> ??? I'm not.
[00:12] <Scunizi> Zasch, by chance did you format it with ext3 when you created it?
[00:12] <d0s4gw> I installed a SATA drive last night, got it all set up so it works, but it doesn't mount automatically at boot.  How can I (1) mount it at boot and (2) allow all users read/write access?
[00:12] <Jorge_> pelo, yes
[00:12] <Yuji1_Saeki> ...Sorry that I type faster than people send between my messages. I'll slow down then?
[00:12] <Zasch> Scunizi: No, I formatted it with NTFS
[00:12] <aghachi> scunizi: thanx ill check itout
[00:12] <Pelo> Jorge_, ok now type   sudo nano /path/menu.lst  , whee path is the path to the menu.lst file you just found in locate
[00:12] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> no, just put your thoughts in longer sentences
[00:13] <Yuji1_Saeki> I do not understand. *puzzled* Do you mean try to keep my sentences NOT broken up? Like, type them all in one 'enter'?
[00:13] <Scunizi> Zasch, this could be one of the typical window installation problems after Ubuntu install.  Windows likes to be the first thing installed and at the beginning of the drive..
[00:13] <prettyricky> hey guys i have had Ubuntu 7.10 for a while now and well all of a sudden I have no sound, can someone direct me to solving this issue
[00:13] <Pelo> Yuji1_Saeki, yes
[00:13] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> yes it would be nicer
[00:13] <Jorge_> Pelo, remember I'm in pclos
[00:13] <docmur> does anyone have a problem using libncurses5-dev on Gutsy with C++
[00:13] <pak> cant figure out how to use the comfiz install
[00:14] <Pelo> Jorge_, what is the default text editor for pclos ?
[00:14] <Yuji1_Saeki> Pelo: amenado: Alright. My apologies. I am new to IRC in general.
[00:14] <Jorge_> pelo, sec
[00:14] <Scunizi> Zasch, did you format the drive using ubuntu? or windows?
[00:14] <edju> on a remove of alsa-base, ubuntu-minimal is also removed.  on an install of ubuntu-minimal, alsa-base is also installed.  how to get rid of alsa-base and keep ubuntu-minimal?
[00:14] <Zasch> Scunizi: I formatted the drive using a program called "gparted"
[00:14] <Pelo> Yuji1_Saeki,  we get that ,  but this is a support channel with over 1000 ppl in it ,  it is helpfull for everyone to be brief
[00:15] <Jorge_> pelo, ok, there
[00:15] <Pelo> Jorge_, so what is the default text editor in pclos ?
[00:15] <DIL> windows = fat32 or ntfs not ext 2 or 3
[00:15] <Pelo> DIL, ntfs
[00:15] <Jorge_> I am in Nano
[00:15] <Yuji1_Saeki> Pelo: Alright then. Perhaps you can help me. Why would my wireless USB show up as an ETH instead of WLAN?
[00:15] <soldats> edju: IIRC there may be a way of *only* removing the suggested package you tell it to via apt-get
[00:15] <Scunizi> Zasch, you might consider deleting that partition again and recreating it as a bootable drive but don't format it. If it forces you to format it use vfat or fat32. When installing windows, windows will allow you to reformat the drive to ntfs
[00:15] <Pelo> Jorge_, do you have  menu.lst opened ?
[00:16] <Jorge_> pelo yes
[00:16] <CorruptTerrorist> whats a good ftp server for ubuntu + apache2?
[00:16] <Pelo> Yuji1_Saeki, I am useless with wifi sorry , ask again periodicaly
[00:16] <Zasch> Hmm, alright, I'll try that. Thanks!
[00:16] <Scunizi> CorruptTerrorist, gftp, proftp etc
[00:16] <icesword> vsfdpd
[00:16] <DIL> windows = fat32 or ntfs not ext 2 or 3 | Zasch
[00:16] <icesword> vsfdtd
[00:16] <usser> CorruptTerrorist: I use vsftpd
[00:16] <prettyricky> hey guys i have had Ubuntu 7.10 for a while now and well all of a sudden I have no sound, can someone direct me to solving this issue
[00:16] <icesword> vsftpd
[00:16] <Pelo> Jorge_, ok did you also open that link I gave you with my own menu.lst file in it ?
[00:17] <Jorge_> pelo, no
[00:17] <reportingsjr> How do I run a bash command on _boot_?
[00:17] <Pelo> Jorge_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57895/
[00:17] <CorruptTerrorist> usser, gui?
[00:17] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> thats how your udev or sysfs have detected it, you have to look at the udev rules how it names devices..am not quite comfy with it myself yet..so still learnig
[00:17] <Yuji1_Saeki> Pelo: ...Ask again?...Oh in hopes someone else will know? Alright. Perhaps tomorrow. :) One question before I go. I kinda monkey-ed around with usr/src/linux etc and wish to know how to restore it...I'm missing a few...*lot* of drivers now.
[00:17] <bbto> hello
[00:17] <usser> CorruptTerrorist: nope, none of the ftp servers in linux I know of have gui
[00:17] <Pelo> Yuji1_Saeki, just clean install
[00:17] <Jorge_> pelo, ok, opened
[00:17] <jcg42> I get this: http://i29.tinypic.com/2z81cad.png when I try to access the Samba server I just set up on another computer.
[00:17] <bbto> someone can help me with wi-fi
[00:18] <j_> 7.10 version and nvidia video card 7600 gt . and i went to SYSTEM > PREF >  REST but can't see to get s-video working
[00:18] <Yuji1_Saeki> Pelo: amenado: Re-INSTALL?!?! Geh, nvm. Thank for your help then. I have no clue what any of that is either.
[00:18] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> and then re-install the build-essential and headers.
[00:18] <softtower> Technical Question: if I see my hard drive spinning, how do I know which application is accessing it? On windows I used to look at I/O bytes in Task Manager, how do I do that on Linux?
[00:18] <Pelo> Jorge_, scroll down to where you get the first menu entry for ubuntu , copy the set of lines for ubuntu , about 3 or 4
[00:18] <Yuji1_Saeki> amenado: What is the build-essential and headers? Where can I get them and how do I install? apt-get?
[00:18] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> if you have no clue yet on how to compile, umm may i suggest some tutorials on compiling c
[00:19] <icesword> Yuji1_Saeki, sudo apt-get build-essentials
[00:19] <booster_> hey guys....i have a problem with compiz....i was running beryl on my system but i installed compiz and now i cant get the cubed desktop and i dont see the window borders after i turn it on
[00:19] <Scunizi> CorruptTerrorist, gftp has a gui version
[00:19] <Yuji1_Saeki> ...C? Ah...I have better luck writing in VB and any other language except C, C++, etc.
[00:19] <prettyricky> hey guys i have had Ubuntu 7.10 for a while now and well all of a sudden I have no sound, can someone direct me to solving this issue
[00:19]  * usser god VB?
[00:19] <Pelo> !sound > prettyricky check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[00:19] <Yuji1_Saeki> icesword: Invalid OP.
[00:19] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> well if you want to mess around with kernels in linux, you must learn c..
[00:20] <icesword> Yuji1_Saeki, what ?
[00:20] <Yuji1_Saeki> amenado: ...Linux in general is too confusing. I wish it had a 'hardware wizard' and 'exe' setup lol. But alas, this is better than Vista! :)
[00:20] <prettyricky> i got one saying something was not enabled but not sure what
[00:20] <bbto> ay/ has an Broadcom 1390?
[00:20] <Yuji1_Saeki> icesword: It said E: Invalid operation build-essentials.
[00:20] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> you will get along fine, just dont get info overload
[00:21] <Yuji1_Saeki> amenado: I'm autistic and cannot understand C, but yet I can understand every language except it and all suprt/sub-sets.
[00:21] <CarlFK> what file contains the sig: "Invalid Release signature"
[00:21] <CorruptTerrorist> Scunizi, that's a client isnt it?
[00:21] <Scunizi> CorruptTerrorist, you looking for the server portion?
[00:21] <icesword> Yuji1_Saeki, sudo apt-get install (packages)
[00:21] <Pelo> Jorge_, I'm gonna have to go , you'll need to figure out the rest on your own or ask in #grub , best of luck
[00:21] <solexious1> [Q] What do I use to setup wifi on ubuntu server?
[00:21] <CorruptTerrorist> Scunizi, yeah
[00:22] <jcg42> I get this error: http://i29.tinypic.com/2z81cad.png when I try to access the Samba server I just set up on another computer.
[00:22] <Yuji1_Saeki> Everyone: It appears on many forums people have problem with too much bass. Turn down the global sound to about 3/5 to 4/5 max and there you go :)
[00:22] <Scunizi> CorruptTerrorist, sorry gftp won't do it.. you're right it's a client.
[00:22] <soldats> !wifi | solexious1
[00:22] <ubotu> solexious1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:22] <solexious1> thank you
[00:23] <prettyricky> hey guys i have had Ubuntu 7.10 for a while now and well all of a sudden I have no sound, can someone direct me to solving this issue
[00:23] <flaccid> !sound | prettyricky
[00:23] <ubotu> prettyricky: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:23] <Yuji1_Saeki> icesowrd: I need it re-installed, not upgraded. How to I 'reinstall' it manually. I need only the 'net' and 'drivers/net/wireless/zd1211rw' folders restored.
[00:23] <Jorge_> anyone help me with a new ubuntu install that won't boot?
[00:24] <icesword> !tab
[00:24] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[00:24] <reportingsjr> How do I run a bash command on _boot_?
[00:24] <FarrisG> Dumb question time: I just reinstalled, have apache, ruby, mod-ruby installed... But when I browse to a .cgi page using #!/usr/bin/ruby, I just get the text of the file rather than the rendered page. Which module am I forgetting to install/enable?
[00:24] <j_> RECOMMENCED FOR NEW USERS >>>http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu/gutsy/
[00:24] <__mikem> Jorge_, what exactly happened?
[00:24] <amenado> Jorge_-> what happened? which ubuntu version? what is your pc? i386? ppc?
[00:24] <j_> we can install skype
[00:24] <j_> too
[00:24] <Scunizi> CorruptTerrorist, do you need the gui only for setup?  You might check out webmin for administering the ftpservers that aren't graphical.. like vsftpd
[00:24] <prettyricky> thanks
[00:25] <icesword> reportingsjr, all of the config are in /etc.if you ask me,i think /etc/init.d/rc.local is you want
[00:25] <reportingsjr> ok
[00:25] <Jorge_> I have an HP12lln that I want Ubuntu on.  It has multiple harddrives on it and operating systems
[00:25] <usser> CorruptTerrorist: oh yea webmin is awesome
[00:25] <Jorge_> I have windows xp
[00:25] <nickrud> !webmin
[00:25] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[00:25] <Jorge_> and pclos
[00:25] <amenado> reportingsjr-> can you kind of clarify that? bash on boot? at what point to you want access to bash?
[00:26] <[T]Rex> hi
[00:26] <Jorge_> I installed Ubuntu onto one of my hard drives, but it won't start
[00:26] <Yuji1_Saeki> amenado: What can I use to learn C ad write in it in Ubuntu? (7.10) And a good firewall you recommend? IPTable and Chains is a little too sensitive I think to mess with.
[00:26] <Jorge_> It is ignored by the bootloader
[00:26] <reportingsjr> amenado, I want to run the command to switch the keyboard layout to dvorak when the computer starts up.
[00:26] <amenado> Jorge_-> which os do you have as default to boot?
[00:26] <Jorge_> plclinuxos
[00:26] <Jorge_> amenado pclinuxos
[00:27] <Yuji1_Saeki> reportingsjr: Try the setup for keyboard in System > Preferences > keyboard.
[00:27] <Scunizi> Thanks nickrud.. I didn't know that..  did you catch that CorruptTerrorist ?
[00:27] <djwonk> i'd like to rerun the initial postfix setup program again (provided this is a good idea)... how do I?
[00:27] <icesword> reportingsjr, sorry,it is in /etc/rc.d
[00:27] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> iptables is pretty much the only firewall i know..regarding learning C...there are plenty you can find via google
[00:27] <reportingsjr> Yuji1_Saeki, didn't wopk ;)
[00:27] <djwonk> 'sudo aptitude install postfix' ran it the first time
[00:27] <teqsun> I am dualbooting winxp and ubuntu,  would it be possible to run a virtual machine through ubuntu of the winxp?
[00:27] <reportingsjr> icesword, ok, thanks!
[00:27] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> for editing, vim or emacs or even pine or nano
[00:27] <legend2440> !sound > legend2440
[00:27] <dsofwef> panic -not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs on unkonwn-block(104.1)
[00:27] <Yuji1_Saeki> Reportingsjr: Then I know not what to do.
[00:28] <reportingsjr> icesword, which rc*.* file? I have about 6 =\
[00:28] <icesword> teqsun, what you mean,what through ubuntuof xp
[00:28] <Jorge_> amendao....no sense trying?????????????
[00:28] <Yuji1_Saeki> amenado: Eh? Let's talk Windows and I can understand. >.<; Me too dumb...look what MicroCrap has done to me, nyu!
[00:28] <hischild> i need yet another pointer ... how can i set up wireless from command line only?
[00:28] <icesword> reportingsjr, in your case,i think it is rc.local
[00:28] <brobostigon> Yuji1_Saeki: for linux documenation, linux documentation project(LDP) are the most comprehensive
[00:28] <Some_Person> If I start a 2nd Xserver, how do I easily stop it from commandline?
[00:28] <teqsun> If i run the VMware through ubuntu can i run xp as a virtual machine (the one I already have installed)
[00:28] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> not too bad, you are still employable, many facilities uses windows
[00:29] <Scunizi> teqsun, there are posts on how to do that but you may 1> mess up your windows install 2> have to re-verify your license every time you switch back and forth..
[00:29] <Yuji1_Saeki> amenado: I live off SSI. My mother screwed my life and education up. brobostigon: Where can I find this documentation?
[00:29] <hischild> teqsun, yes, yet unrecommended due to a lot of driver changes ...
[00:29] <amenado> Jorge_-> pclinuxos is the default bootable os?
[00:29] <j_> 7.10 version and nvidia video card 7600 gt . and i went to SYSTEM > PREF >  REST but can't see to get Tv OUT or Svideo detect ....
[00:29] <icesword> teqsun, sure,you can,if your mem is enough
[00:29] <DIL> teqsun: yes, vmware and on the vm site there are pre built ubuntu virtual machines
[00:29] <teqsun> I have 4gb of memory
[00:29] <Jorge_> amenado, yes, and win xp
[00:29] <teqsun> Wait I am running Ubuntu right now but I want to run a Virtual machine of XP
[00:29] <djwonk> #postfix suggested that I use "dpkg-reconfigure postfix"
[00:30] <teqsun> The virtual machine of xp would be from my already installed xp on my ntfs partition
[00:30] <amenado> Jorge_-> when you installed ubuntu, did you select to installl grub?
[00:30] <Jorge_> amenado, yes
[00:30] <icesword> teqsun, but you know,for now you want to run you need to install xp in vm
[00:30] <solexious1> [Q] What do I use to setup wifi on ubuntu server? *cant find server info on previous link
[00:30] <Yuji1_Saeki> amenado: I've got notebooks full of signatures and comments from those who I have helped with their PCs in life. I'm so loved. People come from three different towns around to see me. (I'm smarter than I let on for windows, but I'm not God) :D
[00:30] <brobostigon> Yuji1_Saeki: i think its ldp.org, but google LDP to be sure
[00:30] <sveakex> ^^
[00:30] <Scunizi> teqsun, think of what you are trying to accomplish.  If you want access to your games in windows but be able to play them while in Ubuntu.. forget about 99.9% of them.
[00:30] <teqsun> I dont want to install XP through VM I was wondering if I could take a preinstalled (already existing) installation of XP and use it as a VM through ubuntu
[00:31] <Some_Person> If I start a 2nd Xserver, how do I easily stop it from commandline?
[00:31] <DIL> teqsun: yes, just a fyi you should be able to use vmplayer and create a vm with xp - i would use the the download from vwware site though
[00:31] <nickrud> Yuji1_Saeki: tldp.org
[00:31] <icesword> teqsun, i think you cannot,for now yeah,you cannot
[00:31] <Yuji1_Saeki> LDP.Org turned out to be some terrorist signup site. Jk.
[00:31] <amenado> Jorge_-> do you get a grub menu when you boot?
[00:31] <Darkmystere> Yea with VMWare Workstation..
[00:31] <neeto> I need to map my mouse forward/back buttons, and I have been successful getting the commands working by using btnx, however, before btnx, the back/forward buttons, had arbitrarily been assigned to the middle click and the right click functions (Even though they are not the same buttons) so now my browser will go back, but it will also open up a right  click menu. How can I disable the...
[00:31] <brobostigon> tldp.org
[00:31] <neeto> ...default functions of these buttons and replace them with JUST the btnx mappings?
[00:31] <amenado> am detecting a troll
[00:31] <Darkmystere> Err, my internet in ubuntu doesnt work but if i boot into backtrack it works..
[00:31] <Yuji1_Saeki> NickRud: Thank you nickrud:
[00:31] <icesword> teqsun, also check www.vmware.com www.virtualbox.org
[00:31] <teqsun> I would just like to access windows,  I dualboot but when I reboot in console, it loads grub and  I have no idea how to access grub with ssh and change the boot order
[00:31] <Scunizi> teqsun, VMWare has a free app that will create a VM out of your windows install. Then just copy the files to Ubuntu and run them via VMWare.  Still you'll end up with license verification issues.
[00:31] <teqsun> thank yuo
[00:31] <Jorge_> amenado, I get a menu to choose between pclos and winxp
[00:32] <teqsun> I dont have verification :)
[00:32] <teqsun> its a copy through school
[00:32] <amenado> Jorge_-> is that a grub menu by chance?
[00:32] <teqsun> if I need to I can spend another $10 on another copy
[00:32] <Jorge_> grub
[00:32] <Jorge_> amenado, grub I think
[00:32] <icesword> !warez
[00:32] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[00:32] <teqsun> well maybe you can help me with the differnt problem,  how do I change the default boot order of grub ?
[00:32]  * __mikem wonders why anyone would need to dual boot two linux distros
[00:32] <amenado> Jorge_-> do you know where that menu.lst resides? ie which partition?
[00:33] <Yuji1_Saeki> ubotu: Darn, jk.
[00:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about darn, jk. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:33] <Jorge_> amenado....no
[00:33] <icesword> teqsun, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:33] <nickrud> __mikem: testing 32 bit and 64 bit kernel modules on a variety of os's ?
[00:33] <Some_Person> If I start a 2nd Xserver, how do I easily stop it from commandline?
[00:33] <icesword> teqsun, change it to the way you want
[00:33] <richard> hi, is there a tool to set the settings for the fan? my laptop is getting very hot...
[00:33] <teqsun> I am not talking about illegal software,  as a student I have insane discounts
[00:33] <Yuji1_Saeki> Oh wow IRC has commands. o.o
[00:33] <teqsun> thank you icesword
[00:33] <amenado> Jorge_-> do you have a liveCD from ubuntu you can use?
[00:33] <teqsun> do I have to use nano or can I use vi
[00:33] <icesword> k
[00:34] <icesword> ok
[00:34] <Jorge_> amenado, yes
[00:34] <amenado> teqsun-> either one is okay
[00:34] <nickrud> teqsun: whatever editor you like, even emacs
[00:34] <icesword> teqsun, if you get used to it
[00:34] <neeto> 8|
[00:34] <teqsun> I am used to it :90
[00:34] <neeto> 8O
[00:34] <amenado> Jorge_-> then boot from that and find on each partition, you may have to mount it, where that menu.lst is
[00:34] <teqsun> If I had my way, I would use VI for everything.
[00:34] <Yuji1_Saeki> amenado: What do you think a casual tech job for a walk in on a PC should cost?  You know, tweaking, anti-viral removal, etc. The whole works.
[00:35] <brobostigon> _mikem: well when i was at university, out of fun ,we installed around 5 differnet OS on the same machine. that was around 15 different versions of linux/unix
[00:35] <nickrud> !ot | Yuji1_Saeki
[00:35] <ubotu> Yuji1_Saeki: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:35] <mneptok> teqsun: except you don't use vi, you use vim. ;)
[00:35] <Scunizi> Yuji1_Saeki, check out the prices at geeksquad.com
[00:35] <amenado> Yuji1_Saeki-> umm depends if the owner is gorgeous ..hehe
[00:35] <teqsun> I have used vi
[00:35] <j_> 7.10 version and nvidia video card 7600 gt . and i went to SYSTEM > PREF >  REST but can't see to get Tv OUT or Svideo detect ....
[00:35] <Jorge_> amenado...no simpier soloution????????????????
[00:35] <neeto> I need to map my mouse forward/back buttons, and I have been successful getting the commands working by using btnx, however, before btnx, the back/forward buttons, had arbitrarily been assigned to the middle click and the right click functions (Even though they are not the same buttons) so now my browser will go back, but it will also open up a right  click menu. How can I disable the...
[00:35] <neeto> ...default functions of these buttons and replace them with JUST the btnx mappings?
[00:35] <teqsun> isnt vim the one where the arrow keys work/
[00:35] <amenado> Jorge_-> it will get simpler if you remember where you have put stuff..like where did you install grub to?
[00:35] <teqsun> I know in vi if I use the arrow keys without being in insert mode, it comes up with crazy charactors
[00:35] <bluefoxx> !tell me about webcams
[00:35] <Yuji1_Saeki> Amenado: Ok. Ubotu: ... Scunizi: They are over-priced. NickRud: ???
[00:36] <amenado> Jorge_-> but if you forget, we are both guessing
[00:36] <mneptok> teqsun: you'll want to install the "vim-full" package
[00:36] <icesword> bluefoxx, this is not #debian
[00:36] <nickrud> Yuji1_Saeki: this is a support channel, rather than general talk.
[00:36] <ejusten> While trying to install windows fonts, some manual asked me to screw with the partition bindings
[00:36] <Some_Person> If I start a 2nd Xserver, how do I easily stop it from commandline?
[00:36] <ejusten> And now I cant find the windows partition
[00:36] <teqsun> well I'll be dipped
[00:36] <Jorge_> amenado....it's not standard?
[00:36] <icesword> !webcams > bluefoxx
[00:36] <Scunizi> Yuji1_Saeki, of course.. I charge $60 hr.. that's cheap for the headache..
[00:36] <bluefoxx> icesword: mybad, lol
[00:36] <teqsun> I also cannot find my windows partition in the grub file
[00:36] <Yuji1_Saeki> Fine support questions it is. Is there a way I can customize xchat-gnome to minimize to the notification area.
[00:36] <j_> How i add or output screen to tv with nvidia
[00:36] <hischild> i have a server running, yet i'd like wifi on it with a wep encryption ...
[00:36] <teqsun> oh nevermind im an idiot
[00:37] <amenado> Jorge_-> no standard if you have choosen to install it on a partitions of your choice
[00:37] <jetscreamer> wep?
[00:37] <hischild> jetscreamer, yeah ... old router
[00:37] <jetscreamer> try something more secure
[00:37] <nickrud> !tell icesword about ubotu (has always worked ;)
[00:37] <Yuji1_Saeki> Scunizi: I've been doing free for years. My support question, heh, is whether I should charge. That passes right? IF not I'll be more serious, sorry.
[00:37] <ompaul> !wep
[00:37] <ubotu> WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:37] <jetscreamer> h=ah
[00:37] <hischild> jetscreamer, it's a temp solution ... till i get my wires sorted out
[00:37] <Yuji1_Saeki> WPA is more secure than WEP.
[00:37] <ejusten> How to find and bind windows partition
[00:38] <icesword> nickrud, ?
[00:38] <Some_Person> If I start a 2nd Xserver, how do I easily stop it from commandline?
[00:38] <hischild> Yuji1_Saeki, i'm aware of that, yet my router doesn't support wpa
[00:38] <mneptok> Yuji1_Saeki / Scunizi: this is your last warning about offtopic discussions in #ubuntu.
[00:38] <ejusten> should be fairly easy if I knew what I was doing
[00:38] <Scunizi> Yuji1_Saeki, nickrud is right .. this type of thing is better in #ubuntu-offtopic or a PM
[00:38] <Jorge_> amenado...ok, I trust you, what exactly do I do Now?
[00:38] <Yuji1_Saeki> hischild what does your router support?
[00:38] <hischild> Yuji1_Saeki, only wep :(
[00:38] <amenado> Jorge_->  boot from that liveCD  and find on each partition, you may have to mount each one, where that menu.lst is
[00:38] <solexious1> [Q] What do I use to setup wifi on ubuntu server? *cant find server info on previous link
[00:38] <teqsun> Ok in the Grub file to set the default to 3 (the 4th os in the list)
[00:38] <mneptok> hischild: can you filter connections by MAC address?
[00:39] <Scunizi> mneptok, in case you missed it see below your last post.. .25 seconds from your post..
[00:39] <hischild> mneptok, ofcourse (i'm doin that already ... )
[00:39] <Yuji1_Saeki> Then HiSchild I'm sorry but I know not where to help then.
[00:39] <hischild> Yuji1_Saeki, np ... i'm not entirely stupid to just stay with only wep and do nothing ... it does support mac filtering which is enabled :-)
[00:39] <alexman> how do i figure out my version of ubuntu?
[00:39] <mneptok> hischild: what flavor of router is it?
[00:39] <Jorge_> amenado....I don't see how I can find the root menu.lst file is
[00:39] <mneptok> alexman: lsb_release -a
[00:39] <hischild> mneptok, some old netgear one
[00:40] <hischild> mneptok, not sure of the version though
[00:40] <amenado> Jorge_-> are you booted on the liveCD yet?  from there we can assist
[00:40] <ejusten> Windows partition.. I seem to have misplaced it. Help?
[00:40] <Yuji1_Saeki> ubontu: How do I change my wireless usb's mode to another? Is that an ok question? I have many questions but don't know if it is Ubuntu related entirely. This is with Ubuntu.
[00:40] <Scunizi> Yuji1_Saeki, ubontu is a bot..
[00:40] <mneptok> hischild: you should see if router firmware updates provide WPA(2) functionality
[00:41] <hischild> mneptok, no wait! i've been misreading ... it supports wpa-psk <3
[00:41] <mneptok> hischild: then there ya go
[00:41] <icesword> !hello
[00:41] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:41] <solexious1> [Q] What do I use to setup wifi on ubuntu server? *cant find server info on previous link given*
[00:41] <hischild> mneptok, but ... any chance you could gimme a hand on getting wlan on my server up? i know it's far from perfect, but it's better then having a wire running through my room
[00:41] <Jorge_> amenado....yes
[00:41] <amenado> solexious1-> do you have a wireless nic card?
[00:42] <solexious1> ?
[00:42] <amenado> Jorge_-> okay open up a terminal
[00:42] <solexious1> amen: Its a prism card in a laptop
[00:42] <theLichKing> hi
[00:42] <Jorge_> amenado ok
[00:42] <theLichKing> i wants to be unbanned please, thank you
[00:42] <amenado> Jorge_-> then type fdisk -l;  and we will attempt to load each partition one by one to search your menu.lst
[00:42] <mneptok> theLichKing: uh ...
[00:42] <Yuji1_Saeki> Scunizi: How do I change my wireless usb's mode to another? Is that an ok question? I have many questions but don't know if it is Ubuntu related entirely. This is with Ubuntu.
[00:42] <Yuji1_Saeki> You answer then.
[00:42] <Yuji1_Saeki> WPA2 is good.
[00:43] <hakerx> hI
[00:43] <Yuji1_Saeki> I use a 63 or 64 bit password.
[00:43] <Juan> vlc/mplayer arent playing subs right (totem is) how do i fix'em
[00:43] <lain_> Hello, I just installed irssi
[00:43] <Yuji1_Saeki> ...?
[00:43] <lain_> I downloaded a theme file, but I don't know where irssi was installed
[00:43] <flaccid> here is a good question. looks like my grub is fine, but my kernel images are corrupted. how can i reinstall those from say a livecd ?
[00:43] <theLichKing> mneptok, uh?
[00:43] <lain_> Which folder is irssi installed in by default?
[00:43] <mneptok> theLichKing: you're here. you're speaking. so what is this ban?
[00:44] <hakerx> i was wondering does it's posible to separet xp and ubuntu on each partition ?
[00:44] <amenado> Jorge_-> you see the list of partitions you have? /dev/hda1 ? /dev/hda2 ? what are the names?
[00:44] <Scunizi> Yuji1_Saeki, sure that's an ok question.. unfurtunatly I don't do wireless and don't know the answer.. If the usb dongle is capable of WPA2 the short answer is ... probably.
[00:44] <theLichKing> mneptok, my other ip got banned
[00:44] <ere4si> lain_, normally in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[00:44] <mkz> quick question: is there a cli param for tar to change compression level when using tar to create a bz2 file?
[00:44] <mneptok> theLichKing: today?
[00:44] <hakerx> i was wondering does it's posible to separet xp and ubuntu on each partition ???
[00:45] <Jorge_> amenado, you know what?  I shall wait for the answer
[00:45] <theLichKing> mneptok, no, about a month ago
[00:45] <amenado> Jorge_-> you see the list of partitions you have? /dev/hda1 ? /dev/hda2 ? what are the names?
[00:45] <Yuji1_Saeki> Scunizi: Apparently there is a.Patch from aircrack-ng that you apply to the drivers to enable it. (Genuine purpose!!!)
[00:45] <amenado> Jorge_-> wait for the answer from whom?
[00:45] <hakerx> i got all ready 2 partions :D
[00:45] <hakerx> time to make 3 one :)
[00:46] <Yuji1_Saeki> I supply the apartment wifi for everyone and want to find out a general rough time that it takes for my wpa2 to be you know...So that I can write a VB.net on xp to autorun every so often and change the key.
[00:46] <lain_> ere4si: thanks
[00:46] <ere4si> lain_, np :)
[00:46] <hakerx> can somebody give me a direct link to ubuntu install cd ?
[00:46] <mneptok> Yuji1_Saeki: VB is a poor language choice if you're entering the Linux world
[00:46] <speeddemon8803> !install | hackerx
[00:46] <ubotu> hackerx: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:46] <hakerx> i know
[00:47] <hakerx> from wmware
[00:47] <hakerx> from boot
[00:47] <amenado> mkz-> did you try man tar? maybe -Z 9
[00:47] <hakerx> and etc
[00:47] <Yuji1_Saeki> mneptok: It is better than nothing! And I'm autistic and cannot learn C.
[00:47] <Yuji1_Saeki> Besides, no one would help me learn C by taking time anyways.
[00:47] <mneptok> Yuji1_Saeki: http://www.realsoftware.com
[00:47] <amenado> hakerx-> can you not keep using the enter key..make a longer sentences please..
[00:47] <speeddemon8803> cdimage.ubuntu.com i believe is where you wish to go.
[00:47] <speeddemon8803> hakerx
[00:48] <hakerx> yes ?
[00:48] <speeddemon8803> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[00:48] <mkz> amenado: I'm reading man tar.  I see the j option for creating the bzip2 (as opposed to -z for gzip) and there is a reference to [0-7][lmh] but the explanation is unclear...
[00:48] <hakerx> thx
[00:48] <Yuji1_Saeki> MNeptok: Ah....and? I can't learn C, it is too imperfect.
[00:48] <speeddemon8803> has all the ubuntu cd images..just pick the version you want.
[00:48] <hakerx> i all ready download one Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD
[00:48] <amenado> mkz its been a while since i've use the feature, so you may have to play around with it
[00:48] <hakerx> buth i wan't install a full version on hdd :)
[00:48] <speeddemon8803> i do not suggest the daily builds unless your really adventurous and not on a work pc.
[00:48] <mneptok> Yuji1_Saeki: read the link
[00:49] <Daisuke_Ido> Yuji1_Saeki: no language is perfect :)
[00:49] <jaybrog> Hello everyone, do you guys know an alternative to avant, the desktop app launcher?
[00:49] <flaccid> so nobody knows the correct way to restore a kernel?
[00:49] <mneptok> Yuji1_Saeki: specifically, http://www.realsoftware.com/products/realbasic/index.php
[00:49] <speeddemon8803> !correct
[00:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about correct - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <solexious1> hackerx: boot into the live cd and you can install from within it
[00:49] <ere4si> jaybrog, I use gdesklet starterbar
[00:49] <speeddemon8803> crap, thought it had the "there is no 'correct' way to do anything." factoid.
[00:49] <Juan> vlc/mplayer arent playing subs right (totem is) how do i fix'em
[00:49] <Yuji1_Saeki> MNeptok: I did. Doesn't say it teaches C. Doesn't say it uses VB style either.
[00:49] <flaccid> lots of indians, no chiefs
[00:49] <jaybrog> ere4si: thank you :)
[00:49] <ere4si> k
[00:49]  * mneptok facepalms
[00:50] <amenado> flaccid-> have you upgraded yet? if you have, then the liveCD vmlinuz and initrd would be different
[00:50] <Yuji1_Saeki> I could program in anything if it were something such as 'Int MyVariable' instead of 'int x;' and all lowercase. Blegh. Ubuntu programming impossible for me.
[00:50] <hakerx> :D
[00:50] <ompaul> Yuji1_Saeki, you are offtopic these are not ubuntu support questions
[00:50] <hakerx> Work Hard Work Smart Your Future Depends on You :)
[00:51] <Yuji1_Saeki> OMPaul: YES it is. I want to learn to program in Ubuntu.
[00:51] <Yuji1_Saeki> And this is asking questions how.
[00:51] <amenado> time for the kick
[00:51] <Yuji1_Saeki> ...
[00:51] <speeddemon8803> If you want crazyness, then go for hardy, but dont expect support for hardy in this room..the support for hardy is in #ubuntu+1 :)
[00:51] <jaybrog> ere4si: I like this a lot, thanks a bunch
[00:51] <hakerx> can someone can give mi a direct link to ubuntu witch i can install to hdd ???
[00:51] <hakerx> cause i don't know with to chose !
[00:51] <hakerx> ow crap D:
[00:51] <flaccid> amenado: yeah its 2.6.22-14-generic .... i wouldnt mind a checksum on that or is that in a package i can look at?
[00:51] <ompaul> Yuji1_Saeki, pick a language and go to its home page python C perl or some such hwoever that is beyond the scope of this channel
[00:51] <CVD-PR> ...
[00:51] <speeddemon8803> hakerx, they all install to hdd in the end.
[00:52] <nickrud> hakerx: releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 , get the alternate install cd
[00:52] <ere4si> jaybrog, gdesklets has lots of good apps - use the websites ones tho
[00:52] <hakerx> Okey
[00:52] <amenado> flaccid you can copy it from the liveCD
[00:52] <hakerx> buth my hdd now runns only with ntf :D
[00:52] <Trebel> I have a Chaintech AV-710 sound card it is installed and working but I can only get 1 channel out of it, can anyone help me or point me to a spot where I can find how to change that to 5.1?
[00:52] <hakerx> i must format a new partion to run it !
[00:52] <flaccid> amenado: on the livecd it only seems to have initrd.img.... .bak
[00:52] <speeddemon8803> hakerx
[00:52] <jaybrog> ere4si: im having a problem from getting it to startup upon logging in to Gnome
[00:52] <amenado> flaccid, copy the iso to the hd, then boot the liveCD and mount the iso from the hd,
[00:52]  * solexious1 claps at hkerx
[00:52] <speeddemon8803> the cd can take care of that for you.
[00:53] <hakerx> i can insert a cd live !
[00:53] <flaccid> thats from /boot right?
[00:53] <nickrud> hakerx: yes, the install disk will help with that. If you run vista, better is to shrink your ntfs partition with vista first
[00:53] <flaccid> errr can do that
[00:53] <hakerx> i will make a Dual Boot :)
[00:53] <flaccid> booted off livecd and mounted sda7 which is the root of the linux install
[00:53] <speeddemon8803> ahh, love the teamwork nickrud, always coming to my side :)
[00:53] <flaccid> can=can´t
[00:53]  * nickrud kicks speeddemon8803 around again ;0
[00:53] <ere4si> jaybrog, in the menu open system - preferences - session - then the startup tab - then click new - and type gdesklets
[00:54] <pyrak> i just ran "ping" and i want it to stop
[00:54] <foibles> whats the difference between miro and democracyplayer
[00:54] <pingu_> where should i look for peer guardian for ubuntu
[00:54] <flaccid> amenado: its the other way around. the kernel on the hard disk is rooted
[00:54] <speeddemon8803> ouch man!
[00:54] <speeddemon8803> :)
[00:54] <ompaul> pyrak, ctrl c
[00:54] <pyrak> foibles, democracyplayer is the old name
[00:54] <solexious> pingu: it is moblock
[00:54] <jaybrog> ere4si: ah very nice
[00:54] <pyrak> foibles, same program, they just changed the name recently :P
[00:54] <ompaul> !moblock | pingu_
[00:54] <ubotu> pingu_: info in detail is on this wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoBlock
[00:54] <ere4si> jaybrog, :)
[00:54] <amenado> flaccid come again? i didnt follow
[00:54] <solexious> pingu: well, it does the same thing and is linked to from the peergardian site
[00:54] <hakerx> Ubuntu 7.10 i386 live cd destop edition !
[00:54] <jaybrog> ere4si: do you have any screenshots you could link me of your desktop? :)
[00:55] <pyrak> ompaul, hmm.  now it's frozen
[00:55] <pyrak> not giving me a command line
[00:55] <ere4si> jaybrog, sure - one min
[00:55] <ompaul> pyrak, do it again
[00:55] <jaybrog> ere4si: awesome :)
[00:55] <flaccid> amenado: i have booted from livecd of gutsy because i cannot boot because of corrupt kernel. i mounted the linux fs on the hdd on /mnt/sda7 then compared /boot and /mnt/sda7 . /boot is the livecd right?
[00:55] <lain_> ere4si: I can't find it either folder. Where else could irssi been installed? The help file tells me to place the .theme file in ~/.irssi --> but where is that?
[00:55] <flaccid> im comparing /boot and /mnt/sda7/boot ...
[00:55] <solexious> [Q] What do I use to setup wifi on ubuntu server? *cant find server info on previous link given*
[00:56] <ompaul> !wireless > solexious (read this - lots of detail)
[00:56] <amenado> flaccid-> do it like this..
[00:56] <pyrak> ompaul, ok, it looks like i'm frozen.  how do i reboot?
[00:56] <ere4si> lain_, that is a hidden file in your /home folder - in nautilus click view - show hidden files
[00:56] <ompaul> pyrak, can you use the mouse?
[00:56] <amenado> flaccid,  open up a terminal and chroot /
[00:56] <pyrak> ompaul, it's a command line machine
[00:56] <pingu_> ompaul: thanks :)
[00:56] <pyrak> ompaul, ^
[00:57] <amenado> flaccid now you can have access to the cdrom yesh?
[00:57] <solexious> ompaul: been linked to that before, does not include server...
[00:57] <ompaul> pyrak, ctrl alt F1-7 << which ever and log in there and check if you still have a working box
[00:57] <insom> I seem to be having a problem with gkrellm :|
[00:57] <pak> I'm having configuring my printer to work with Ubuntu (noob here) please help :)
[00:57] <ompaul> solexious, wireless and a server?
[00:57] <amenado> flaccid did  i lose you?
[00:57] <pak> having trouble i mean, with printer to work on network
[00:58] <flaccid> im experienced linux user
[00:58] <pyrak> ompaul, yeah, that worked.  what did i just do?
[00:58] <flaccid> no need to chroot
[00:58] <hakerx> Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) Daily Build PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD
[00:58] <solexious> ompaul, yes, wireless laptop running ubuntu server
[00:58] <insom> it takes a good 2 to 3 minutes plus to load, and I have no clue why
[00:58] <hakerx> i think this can fit my pc ?
[00:58] <flaccid> no need to chroot?
[00:58] <amenado> flaccid okay, then am off
[00:58] <flaccid> sorry about the repeat. this keyboard is wonk
[00:58] <speeddemon8803> hakerx, i wouldnt try it unless your wanting a lot of troubel.
[00:58] <jaybrog> ere4si: have you forgotten about my screenshot? No biggie if you are busy
[00:58] <ompaul> pyrak, you logged on to a another terminal and logged in - do this ps auwx | grep ping
[00:58] <flaccid> amenado: am off?
[00:58] <speeddemon8803> and..in here...we cant truly support it. hakerx
[00:59] <hakerx> ?
[00:59] <speeddemon8803> go for gutsy hakerx
[00:59] <amenado> flaccid you are an experienced linux user?  so am off and let your expertise work
[00:59] <flaccid> ill chroot something if you want. just explain to me what i should be actually doing amenado
[00:59] <ere4si> jaybrog, waiting for the ubuntu gallery to accept it :)
[00:59] <ompaul> pyrak, then type this sudo kill -9 (the number in the second column against the ping)
[00:59] <speeddemon8803> hardy has a lot of issues still hakerx.
[00:59] <solexious> hakerx: got for 7.10
[00:59] <flaccid> amenado: sounds more like you dont know what you are on about
[00:59] <jaybrog> ere4si: coolness, thanks :)
[00:59] <hakerx> i got 7.10 live cd and now download a ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron
[01:00] <ere4si> jaybrog, http://ubuntuforums.org/g/index.php?n=2341
[01:00] <amenado> flaccid now you are trying to insult?  good luck
[01:00] <hakerx> ?
[01:00] <solexious> [QQ] Any one know how to controll a wifi connection command line
[01:00] <insom> anyone have any ideas?
[01:00] <flaccid> amenado: you took that as an insult? omg
[01:00] <pak> Please help with printer on network that I'm trying to setup?  I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
[01:00] <arakthor> solexious: you can do some stuff with wifi via the command line. see man iwconfig
[01:00] <ere4si> jaybrog, clock, goodweather, 2x email, net, cpu and starterbar
[01:00] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:01] <flaccid> any real helpers here?
[01:01] <speeddemon8803> !printing | pak
[01:01] <ubotu> pak: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:01] <jaybrog> ere4si: very neat and clean desktop
[01:01] <solexious> arakthor: Thank you
[01:01] <flaccid> the livecd uses different imgs even though they are the same kernel version..
[01:01] <ere4si> jaybrog, I like usability
[01:01] <arakthor> solexious: np
[01:01] <jordan> hi
[01:01] <dev1n> hey everyone
[01:02] <jordan> im trying to start rsyncd using xinetd
[01:02] <dev1n> I'm trying to get an old dell laptop to boot a live CD
[01:02] <flaccid> there is no initrd.img-26.22-14-generic on the livecd only initrd.img-26.22-14-generic.bak , why is that?
[01:02] <jordan> but i got this error  rsyncd[24104]: rsync: failed to open lock file /var/run/rsync.lock: Permission denied (13)
[01:02] <jk_> an i install microsoft life cam on ubuntu?
[01:02] <dev1n> it hangs either at 3% or 100% when it's loading the kernel
[01:02] <jordan> someone can helpme?
[01:03] <dev1n> someone suggested getting it to boot verbosely
[01:03] <Andres22_rio4> hello. Why when i delete a mail in evolution, this doesnt go to de trash.. its dissapear..
[01:03] <dev1n> will that work?
[01:03] <hakerx> Damm this all sucks
[01:03] <Tonren> "The software has detected that the disk has at least 8 bad sectors."  <--  QtParted tells me that when I try to resize my ntfs partition on the Kubuntu Live CD so I can install Ubuntu.  What's going on?
[01:03] <icesword> dev1n, maybe it is complaining your mem is low,or what ever
[01:03] <josspyker> jordan: sudo
[01:03] <hakerx> nobody can help a linux noob !
[01:03] <hakerx> ****
[01:03] <Xdange1> hey guys... i'm using Ubuntu 7.10..i can get sound with my headphones but not with my laptop speakers. What could have gone wrong??
[01:03] <dev1n> hmm, is there a different version of linux that would work better?
[01:03] <dev1n> it's not an ancient laptop.
[01:03] <icesword> !ask | hakerx
[01:03] <ubotu> hakerx: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:03] <dev1n> 2 years old i think.
[01:03] <insom> hakerx, what's the problem?
[01:04] <flaccid> most linux works better than ubuntu lol
[01:04] <dev1n> heh
[01:04] <jordan> josspyker: sorry but this cannot help-me. I'm trying to start a server, not a single application
[01:04] <icesword> !best
[01:04] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[01:04] <jaybrog> !gnome
[01:04] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[01:04] <ere4si> have ubuntu on five comps and never an issue flaccid
[01:04] <flaccid> well ill just assume the livecd uses .bak which is pretty non standard and go from there
[01:04] <Xdange1> hey guys... i'm using Ubuntu 7.10..i can get sound with my headphones but not with my laptop speakers. What could have gone wrong??
[01:04] <dev1n> anyone have any ideas of how to get a live CD to boot verbosely?
[01:04] <flaccid> ere4si: you are a different user out of many thousands of types
[01:04] <zcat[1]> !pxe
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pxe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <jaybrog> !gdesklet
[01:04] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[01:05] <flaccid> i deal with ubuntu bugs daily
[01:05] <hakerx> finaly i founded 7.10 alternative cd
[01:05] <insom> Xdange1, that's strange
[01:05] <fuffalo> how do i play dvds in ubuntu?  what's the easiest software to install for playback
[01:05] <zcat[1]> !screenlets
[01:05] <jaybrog> very cool i love this
[01:05] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[01:05] <ere4si> flaccid: :)
[01:05] <zcat[1]> !medibuntu > flaccid
[01:05] <jaybrog> zcat[1]: i tried screenlets too
[01:05] <hakerx> Hell Yeah Today Is My Birth Day !
[01:05] <zcat[1]> jaybrog: they're cool..
[01:06] <jaybrog> zcat[1]: do you prefer screenlets?
[01:06] <zcat[1]> jaybrog: yes..
[01:06] <flaccid> zcat[1]: ?
[01:06] <jaybrog> hakerx: and what better way to spend your birthday lol
[01:06] <cubexombi> whats a good gui package to install for user and group management, I'm installed using the minimal disk, got nothing ..
[01:06] <pak> the link you provided for setting up printer isn't helping me out :(
[01:06] <Andres22_rio4> screenlets, now, doesnt need compiz...
[01:07] <zcat[1]> flaccid: to get DVD's playing you need to install dvdcss2, which is in the medibuntu repos ..
[01:07] <pak> I have ubuntu and i'm trying to print to a xp machine that has the printer to it...can some one help me out?
[01:07] <pak> 7.10
[01:07] <speeddemon8803> !samba | pak
[01:07] <ubotu> pak: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[01:07] <speeddemon8803> that might help more :)
[01:07] <bluewraith> can someone help me bind an IP in apache2? I think thats why noone can connect
[01:07] <fex> samba for sure
[01:07] <fex> read manuals about it
[01:07] <flaccid> zcat[1]: im repairing kernel images, not playing dvds
[01:07] <arakthor> pak: in gnome; system -> administration -> printing
[01:08] <speeddemon8803> arkakthor, i think he is trying to set up a network printer.
[01:08] <arakthor> pak: you can add a new printer, and follow a few steps to enter the information required to connect to the printer
[01:08] <fyrstorm> My wireless card is recognized in iwcofig but not in network-manager-gnome
[01:08] <sveakex> hey. is anybody using bitlbee who could help me?
[01:08] <fyrstorm> any ideas?
[01:08] <arakthor> speeddemon8803: I thought he was trying to get his ubuntu to connect to a printer on an xp machine
[01:08] <zcat[1]> flaccid: Oh.. someone asked about playing dvd's in here..
[01:09] <lucas> hi, I moved my HD to another machine, and X doesn't start anymore. how can I rerun the X autoconfiguration?
[01:09] <jaybrog> ere4si: thanks for the help, suggestions, and screenshot :)
[01:09] <speeddemon8803> that would require samba
[01:09] <flaccid> np zcat[1]
[01:09] <ere4si> k
[01:09] <zcat[1]> !medibuntu | fuffalo
[01:09] <ubotu> fuffalo: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:09] <pak> i just installed samba, can't understand what it's saying at all.  Just need this printer to work :(
[01:09] <zcat[1]> yay for scrollback
[01:09] <sveakex> lucas: try X -configure
[01:09] <jaybrog> ere4si: im going to play around with gdesklets a lil, take care
[01:09] <sveakex> lucas: in capitals
[01:09] <jaybrog> bye everyone
[01:09] <speeddemon8803> arent you trying to print to a network printer pak?
[01:09] <ere4si> jaybrog, enjoy!
[01:09] <jaybrog> Ubuntu community FTW!
[01:09] <dev1n> Anyone know how I can get a live CD to boot?
[01:09] <sveakex> lucas: capital*
[01:09] <cubexombi> lucas dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[01:10]  * speeddemon8803 tries to backtrack and figure out exactly what your doing.
[01:10] <dev1n> It hangs when it loads the kernel
[01:10] <sveakex> dev1n: is it a good cd?
[01:10] <fyrstorm> dev1n; did you burn it yourself?
[01:10] <mneptok> dev1n: machine specs?
[01:10] <hakerx> Witch Format Need For Linux alternative install hdd ?
[01:10] <dev1n> yes, and i tried it on another box
[01:10] <flaccid> amenado: if this doesn boot again with same error, i will show you the bug on launchpad and you can show me your leetness
[01:10] <dev1n> so I know the CD is ok.
[01:10] <zcat[1]> dev1n: try F2 and look at the suggestions.. usually something like acpi=off will get it to work
[01:10] <speeddemon8803> hakerx, ntfs usually if you wish to share files between linux and windows.
[01:10] <fyrstorm> dev1n; you need to make it bootable when you burn it. Did you do that?
[01:11] <tux> hi, how to can change dns numbers ?
[01:11] <sveakex> hey. is anybody using bitlbee who could help me?
[01:11] <pyrak> so i'm at a command-line ubuntu install.  and i have this laptop running ubuntu.  i can ping this laptop, but not google.com
[01:11] <mneptok> speeddemon8803: ext3 is a better bet for sharing files between OSes.
[01:11] <hakerx> yeah win is on with 2 partition
[01:11] <dev1n> It boots to the screen where i can run ubuntu or install etc.
[01:11] <dev1n> so i think it's bootable.
[01:11] <hakerx> now i need separate a 3 partion
[01:11] <hakerx> and make a dual boot
[01:11] <dev1n> (it booted another machine ok)
[01:11] <speeddemon8803> ok so ive been wrong every time, im gonna get outta here.
[01:11] <sveakex> pyrak: because you are not connected to the net i guess
[01:11] <mneptok> dev1n: machine specs?
[01:11] <dev1n> it's a DELL laptop Inspiron 1000
[01:12] <fyrstorm> Anyone a network-manager expert???
[01:12] <dev1n> i'm not sure what the specs are, im googling
[01:12] <mneptok> dev1n: that's a model, not specs
[01:12] <pyrak> sveakex, no, the same router is being used to connect this computer to the ned
[01:12] <flaccid> fyrstorm: im average, but not expert. whats the problem
[01:12] <pyrak> net*
[01:12] <dev1n> right, hence the googling
[01:12] <phizzy> does x-chat gnome work with fish?
[01:12] <mneptok> dev1n: look at the BIOS boot screen
[01:12] <zcat[1]> dev1n: some drives have trouble reading the disk if you burned it fast (generally 16x can be read by anything) .. and some BIOSes have issues with things like ACPI so there are options to turn it off.. the boot screen will give you some likely hints..
[01:12] <prettyricky> hey guys I installed gparted to ubuntu 7.10 now never used it before, I cant use it only on cdlive correct
[01:12] <mneptok> dev1n: if you have less than 256MB RAM, forget a Live session
[01:13] <fyrstorm> flaccid; My wireless card is recognized in iwconfig but network-manager doesn't see it.
[01:13] <ere4si> prettyricky, it will only work on unmounted partitions
[01:13] <speeddemon8803> !xubuntu | dev1n
[01:13] <ubotu> dev1n: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[01:13] <pyrak> prettyricky, well you can install it to run off of your local machine, but it's usually better to run it off the live cd
[01:13] <Xdange1> hey guys... i'm using Ubuntu 7.10..i can get sound with my headphones but not with my laptop speakers. What could have gone wrong??
[01:13] <pyrak> prettyricky, because then you can access the volume that you boot from more safely
[01:14] <speeddemon8803> you can always try xubuntu if your pc is so stubborn that even the alternative cd isnt working.
[01:14] <flaccid> fyrstorm: make sure there are no references in /etc/network/interfaces on that interface then restart both networkmanager and the frontend
[01:14] <prettyricky> ok, thanks
[01:14] <ere4si> !sound | Xdange1
[01:14] <ubotu> Xdange1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:14] <sveakex> pyrak: hm
[01:14] <sveakex> pyrak: is there another computer in the network?
[01:14] <killown> does anyone here have screenlets working?
[01:14] <ere4si> Xdange1, and make sure nothing is muted
[01:14] <zcat[1]> killown: yes
[01:14] <Praticle> i was just changing the skybox type thing for the cube when suddenly compiz stopped working, firfox got really laggy, and my external hardrive unmounted itself....im sorry i cant really give any more information, but im not quite sure what happened.... any ideas?
[01:14] <pyrak> sveakex, besides the two that i'm describing?  yeah, a few...
[01:14] <fyrstorm> flaccid; the only thing in /etc/network/interfaces is loopback. there is nothing about eth1 in there.
[01:15] <killown> zcat[1], do you use gnome?
[01:15] <mneptok> pyrak: ping -c 5 72.14.207.99
[01:15] <zcat[1]> yes
[01:15] <Xdange1> ere4si: i have checked that a number of times
[01:15] <dev1n> i think it's 400 MHz 2.2 GHz 512 MB ram
[01:15] <killown> when I click on show desktop icon it hide all screenlets
[01:15] <dev1n> should work ok right?
[01:15] <Xdange1> ere4si: everything seems normal
[01:15] <killown> zcat[1], do you have it problem?
[01:15] <Xdange1> but why would my headphones work??
[01:15] <killown> or had
[01:15] <pyrak> mneptok, "connect: Network is unreachable"
[01:15] <ere4si> Xdange1, the laptop speakers might be pcm - checked that?
[01:16] <flaccid> fyrstorm: in that case. no idea. this kind of thing is common
[01:16] <zcat[1]> killown: yeah, weird bug.. usually I don't use show-desktop anyway, I flip the cube to an empty desktop with compiz instead..
[01:16] <mneptok> pyrak: is this a DHCP supplied IP?
[01:16] <dev1n> mneptok: it's got 512 MB of ram, should work right?
[01:16] <mneptok> dev1n: yes
[01:16] <pyrak> mneptok, nope, static
[01:16] <Xdange1> ere4si: yep they are, and PCM is right up
[01:16] <pyrak> mneptok, through a wireless router
[01:16] <fyrstorm> flaccid; yeah, I know. especially with Broadcrap cards.
[01:16] <killown> zcat[1] then you don't have fix it problem?
[01:16] <mkz> does anyone know how I might extract just the file name from a find command that returns the full path and file?  That is, find returns: /path/to/foo.bar and I just want foo.bar
[01:17] <DIL> dev1n: i have it running on a gateway solo, when i installed i thought i had problems as it took a while to move through the various install stages fyi
[01:17] <mneptok> pyrak: then you have most likely misconfigured your router/gateway address
[01:17] <dev1n> zcat[1]: when do i hit F2?
[01:17] <pyrak> mneptok, but i can ping computers on the LAN
[01:17] <ere4si> Xdange1, never have sound probs so I'm outta suggestions - sorry
[01:17] <sveakex> pyrak: hm. i don't know
[01:17] <mneptok> pyrak: so?
[01:17] <dev1n> after hitting F12 and selecting the CD drive?
[01:17] <zcat[1]> killown: file a bug, if there isn't one already. screenlets are pretty new though and will have a few bugs
[01:17] <scall> Is there a way to install phpBB3 via apt-get?
[01:17] <Xdange1> ere4si: thanks anyway
[01:17] <j_> I can't detect my TV screen in NVIDIA...
[01:17] <ere4si> k
[01:17] <killown> hmm..
[01:18] <mneptok> pyrak: the local traffic never passes the router interface
[01:18] <Xdange1> ere4si: well it was really after one of the latest updates
[01:18] <zcat[1]> dev1n: the boot screen, I think it tells you along the bottom of the screen what the F keys do..
[01:18] <Xdange1> ere4si: since then no sound in my speakers
[01:18] <pyrak> mneptok, "router interface"?
[01:18] <ere4si> Xdange1, updates can be hell
[01:18] <Xdange1> ere4si: only headphones
[01:18] <dev1n> zcat[1]:  yes, it does...what am i looking for?
[01:18] <flaccid> amenado: here is one of the reports http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-322885.html
[01:18] <mneptok> pyrak: the Internet connection
[01:18] <pbne04> !grub | pbne04
[01:18] <zcat[1]> dev1n: other options, I think. something like that
[01:18] <Xdange1> ere4si: i'm usually critical about updates
[01:18] <mneptok> pyrak: when you ping one machine on a network from another machine on the same subnet, no routing is needed. just switching.
[01:19] <pyrak> mneptok, ok, so how do i fix my gateway config?
[01:19] <mneptok> pyrak: ergo, the router/gateway seeting won't make a difference.
[01:19] <mneptok> *setting
[01:19] <dev1n> zcat[1]: F6 is for other options
[01:19] <solexious> [QQ] How can i see network adapters in command line
[01:19] <mneptok> pyrak: how did you set the IP?
[01:19] <zcat[1]> dev1n: yeah, one of those :)
[01:19] <ere4si> j_, try this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[01:19] <Praticle> whenever i try to turn visual effects to custom or extra all the radial buttons get filled in and the whole screen goes grayish and wont close until i force quit it, does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[01:19] <mneptok> solexious: ifconfig
[01:19] <dev1n> zcat[1]:  any idea which one?
[01:19] <pyrak> mneptok, editing /etc/network/interfaces
[01:20] <ere4si> Xdange1, they keep overwriting my grub and xorg etc...
[01:20] <zcat[1]> dev1n: nope.. try various suggestions until something works :)
[01:20] <mneptok> pyrak: so edit /etc/network/interfaces and specify the correct gateway address
[01:20] <scall> How do I transfer a folder and its files from my windows machine to my Ubuntu Server? I tried using Secure File Transfer Client but it wont' work because my user does not have permission.
[01:20] <dev1n> what does t=casper mean?
[01:20] <dev1n> or "quiet splash"?
[01:20] <Xdange1> ere4si: well well, i'm out thanks for the help :-|
[01:21] <ere4si> k bye
[01:21] <Trebel> I have a Chaintech AV-710 sound card it is installed and working but I can only get 1 channel out of it, can anyone help me or point me to a spot where I can find how to change that to 5.1?
[01:21] <flaccid> quiet suppresses stdout from kernel boot and splah put splah on top
[01:21] <pyrak> mneptok, wooo!!!  it worked!!! thank you so much
[01:21] <mneptok> pyrak: yassir
[01:21] <pyrak> mneptok, one goddamned "0" that should have been a "1" :P
[01:21] <pyrak> thanks again
[01:22] <mneptok> pyrak: we say "durned" in #ubuntu.
[01:22] <mneptok> ;)
[01:22] <pyrak> mneptok, what does that mean?
[01:22] <mneptok> !language | pyrak
[01:22] <ubotu> pyrak: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:22] <mneptok> see above
[01:22] <mneptok> :)
[01:22] <zcat[1]> !curses
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curses - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <mneptok> !ncurses
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <pyrak> oic
[01:22] <mneptok> ubotu: you GUI chimp
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you gui chimp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <zcat[1]> hehe
[01:23] <soldats> !cli
[01:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:23] <soldats> there it partially
[01:23] <soldats> +is
[01:23] <flaccid> amenado: i will try to use boot= without using UUID as it says it doesn exist, but this has been reported on at least 4 bug reports and still doesnt work using eg. boot=/dev/sda7
[01:23] <lain__> Hello, is it recommended to use the update manager?
[01:23] <icesword> flaccid, what?boot=/dev/sda7?never heard it
[01:24] <Odd-rationale> lain__: Yes, I beleive.
[01:24] <ere4si> !update | lain_
[01:24] <ubotu> lain_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:24] <hakerx> if i install ubuntu 7.10 alternative cd to hdd how much do i set for partion space ?
[01:24] <lain__> ubotu: Thanks
[01:24] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:24] <zcat[1]> flaccid: if you need to use boot=/dev/sda7 you probably need to edit your /etc/fstab as well..
[01:24] <flaccid> amenado: oops i mean root=
[01:24] <usser> hakerx: 6gb minimum
[01:24] <usser> hakerx: I'd even say 10gb
[01:25] <hakerx> huge one :D
[01:25] <ere4si> hakerx, if you make a seperate /home partition then 5G is enough
[01:25] <flaccid> amenado: like this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8276 and so many other launchpad entries
[01:25] <flaccid> amenado: im just upset br0. i didn do any system changes
[01:25] <zcat[1]> !uuid
[01:25] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[01:25] <flaccid> yeah the UUID is correct
[01:25] <dev1n> zcat[1]: i tried all the other options, but they don't work.
[01:26] <FFEMTcJ> im thinking about installing ubuntu.. my email is on an exchange server, is there a mail client for ubuntu that will connect to exchange and do my mail/calendar/tasks/etc?
[01:26] <dev1n> still hangs at 100%
[01:26] <flaccid> so its a false positive
[01:26] <comicinker> is there a library for getting device information?
[01:27] <dev1n> anyone got something else that might get a live CD to boot?
[01:27] <comicinker> is there a library for getting harddisl information?
[01:27] <usser> FFEMTcJ: if exchange has web interface set up then evolution can somewhat handle it
[01:27] <amenado> flaccid-> those are like 2006?  am confident those are fixed by now.
[01:27] <j_> ere4si confusing...
[01:27] <flaccid> amenado: yeah thats what i thought too
[01:27] <j_> ere4si confusing... with corrections need to made on first one
[01:27] <flaccid> bugs perpetuate a lot in ubuntu over releases
[01:28] <flaccid> device.map is correct too
[01:28] <flaccid> fsck comes back clean, the fs mounts fine
[01:28] <DIL> dev1n: i have it running on a gateway solo, when i installed i thought i had problems as it took a while to move through the various install stages fyi
[01:28] <flaccid> so confused how it could still say that
[01:28] <dev1n> thanks DIL
[01:28] <ere4si> j_, ok - there's a better one - hang a tick
[01:29] <dev1n> I'm not trying to install yet...just boot
[01:29] <flaccid> amenado: unless you have another suggestion. i think i might have to reinstall
[01:29] <dev1n> did it hang during the boot DIL?
[01:29] <dev1n> The first time I let it sit there for 20 mins
[01:29] <ere4si> j_, what vid card do you have pls?
[01:29] <j_> ere4si nvidia
[01:29] <comicinker> I mean is there a library to get harddisk information like size, partitions, file systems, free space, when it was last fscked and so on?
[01:29] <ere4si> j_, nvidia....which?
[01:29] <DIL> dev1n: no but thought you said u got to the point where you could choose install
[01:30] <arakthor> which package do I have to install to be able to use mysql.h as an include?
[01:30] <dev1n> Depending on which boot option I select, it hangs at 3% or 100%
[01:30] <j_> ere4si 7600 gt
[01:30] <ere4si> j_, k
[01:30] <DIL> dev1n: did you check boot order etc...
[01:30] <killown> zcat[1], I have fixed it
[01:30] <sultan> bonsoir, is there a possibility to set an individual background for each of my for desktops?
[01:30] <dev1n> I checked the memory
[01:30] <sultan> four*
[01:31] <mneptok> dev1n: tried an alternate CD?
[01:31] <DIL> dev1n: is computer set to boot from cd first
[01:31] <ere4si> j_, this looks better - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609821
[01:31] <mneptok> sultan: no
[01:31] <mneptok> sultan: a feature i miss from BeOS
[01:31] <dev1n> DIL, i hit F12 and select the CD when it's booting up...
[01:31] <Konner> I might switch back to ubuntu. =]
[01:31] <dev1n> then the Ubuntu menu comes up with boot options
[01:31] <Scunizi> Konner, what's holding you back?
[01:32] <sultan> is there a address to cry till they add? :p
[01:32] <DIL> dev1n: then?
[01:32] <dev1n> if I do nothing, it loads the linu kernel and hangs at 3%
[01:32] <usser> sultan: try ubuntu brainstorm site
[01:32] <dev1n> (after the timer runs out)
[01:32] <sjolshag>  Is there some way to have a bind client/resolver return _only_ a single (the first) authoritative response it gets?
[01:32] <usser> sultan: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[01:32] <dev1n> if I select other boot options from the Ubuntu menu, it hangs at 3% or 100%
[01:32] <arrrghhh> so i upgraded to hardy, and i think i want to go back for now... is there an easy way to do that w/o completely reinstalling?
[01:32] <mneptok> sultan: file a feature request at https://bugzilla.gnome.org
[01:32] <arrrghhh> the upgrade was sooooo easy i hope the downgrade is as easy...
[01:33] <sultan> thank you, gg'night
[01:33] <DIL> dev1n: let it say for a while (dont ask) got watch a show see what happens
[01:33] <Scunizi> arrrghhh, I hope you have /home in a seperate partition :)
[01:33] <usser> arrrghhh: but its not
[01:33] <DIL> dev1n: let it say for a while (dont ask) got watch a show see what happens
[01:33] <arrrghhh> Scunizi, i do
[01:33] <usser> arrrghhh: back up /home and reinstall is the only way'
[01:33] <arrrghhh> usser, is it impossible
[01:33] <j_> ere4si his tv screen is black and white
[01:33] <DIL> dev1n: watch a tv show
[01:33] <arrrghhh> damnit
[01:33] <Scunizi> arrrghhh, just reinstall.. save yourself a headache
[01:33] <dev1n> ok, you think it should work eh?
[01:34] <nicolah> I don't remember how to use dmesg to monitor recent changes in the os, thanks
[01:34] <dev1n> alright, bbiab.
[01:34] <arrrghhh> Scunizi, i wanted to save myself the headache of reinstall lol.  there's a lot more than my /home dir that needs to be backed up.
[01:34] <Scunizi> arrrghhh, no need to backup /home .. just don't format it on reinstall
[01:34] <riotkittie> you cant downgrade.
[01:34] <DIL> dev1n: patience and persistence has its place
[01:34] <arrrghhh> yea i was afriad of that riotkittie
[01:34] <dev1n> yeah, that was the first thing I tried.
[01:34] <flaccid> same thing amenado. using root=/dev/sda7
[01:34] <mneptok> riotkittie: arguably any time you remove Linux in favor of a Microsoft OS is a downgrade.
[01:34] <usser> arrrghhh: just stick with it, it will become mainline eventually
[01:34] <dev1n> I left it for half an hour or so, and it didn't budge.
[01:35] <usser> arrrghhh: you only have what 2 months till release
[01:35] <dev1n> maybe i'll leave it overnight. :)
[01:35] <DIL> dev1n: ok so much for that then
[01:35] <riotkittie> mneptok: simmer down, or i'll get you drunk and give you a win flag tattoo
[01:35] <flaccid> and with only other param ro ... so like im thinking there is nothing i can do unless i use an older kernel
[01:35] <arrrghhh> usser, yea but my virtualbox usb devices are acting all wonky... and i kinda need those to access my dvd collection and deposit my checks.  don't ask.
[01:35] <usser> arrrghhh: ahh... bummer
[01:36] <ere4si> j_, this is the one I pointed another user to days ago and he had success - sorry - couldn't remember - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609821
[01:36] <riotkittie> do you have a seperate home partition, arrrghhh ?
[01:36] <ere4si> j_, wait
[01:36] <ere4si> j_, this one - http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=596115
[01:36] <arrrghhh> riotkittie, yessir
[01:36] <arrrghhh> or ma'am?
[01:36] <riotkittie> indeed.
[01:37] <arrrghhh> riotkittie, not too many female linux nerds is all :P
[01:37] <DIL> geeks not nerds
[01:37] <hakerx> yep thats right Dil :)
[01:37] <arrrghhh> DIL, there's a difference?
[01:37] <dev1n> anyone have any ideas to try if DIL's patience diagnosis is no good?
[01:37] <flaccid> amenado: ill back up /home to my NAS and reinstall. if it comes up again iĺll file a bug and then use a dif OS
[01:37] <hakerx> yes a very big :)
[01:38] <dev1n> perhaps something other than UBUNTU, or an older release?
[01:38] <arrrghhh> i have way too much stuff that's not in my /home partition
[01:38] <DIL> arrrghhh: yes there is!!
[01:38] <mneptok> dev1n: tried an alternate CD?
[01:38] <dev1n> anyone know how to get it to boot verbosely?
[01:38] <_icesword_> esc
[01:38] <dev1n> mneptok: no, I haven't
[01:38] <flaccid> dev1n: take out the quiet param
[01:38] <mneptok> dev1n: that would be my first step
[01:38] <flaccid> and splash param
[01:39] <dev1n> mneptok: I know this CD worked with another PC
[01:39] <arrrghhh> DIL, care to elaborate?  evidently i was malinformed.
[01:39] <dev1n> flaccid: how do i take out the quiet param?
[01:39] <mneptok> dev1n: that's like saying "when i tell my mom she looks hot she smiles. but my dad has TOTALLY DIFFERENT BEHAVIOR!"
[01:39] <speedcore> i was just working in quanta..
[01:39] <DIL> arrrghhh: i would love to but this is not the appropriate forum :-)
[01:39] <dev1n> lol
[01:39] <mneptok> dev1n: try an alternate CD. trust me. i'm pretty good with this Ubuntu stuff. ;)
[01:40] <speedcore> my ctrl + command..    and capslock just stopped working
[01:40] <flaccid> dev1n: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and in the entry take it out there
[01:40] <flaccid> so intead of root=UUID ro quiet just use ro
[01:40] <arrrghhh> DIL, you are correct sir.  haha!
[01:40] <speedcore> anyone who has experience ctrl and capslock and scrolllock and other keys just stopping to work... maybe i toggled something by mistake
[01:40] <dev1n> mneptok: ok what alternate CD?
[01:40] <mneptok> flaccid: this is a live session. he'll need to edit the grub boot param line
[01:40] <dev1n> mneptok: a different build?
[01:40] <mneptok> dev1n: got BitTorrent?
[01:40] <dev1n> mneptok: y
[01:41] <nblracer> i think it is for OEM
[01:41] <icesword> !alternate > dev1n
[01:41] <dev1n> ah, ok
[01:42] <flaccid> yeah press the e button at grub
[01:42] <flaccid> to edit it
[01:42] <flaccid> on boot
[01:42] <mneptok> dev1n: http://th.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[01:42] <flaccid> then after editing it, press b to boot
[01:44] <Kanuha> trying to get my wireless on my laptop working, but need the build-essentials package for hardy. anyone have a url for it?
[01:44] <Starman> speed:.........have you considered rebooting?
[01:44] <Starman> just a guess
[01:44] <speeddemon8803> sudo aptitude install buld-essentials kanuha, type that in terminal
[01:45] <Kanuha> speeddemon8803, thx, but don't have network yet
[01:45] <flaccid> Kanuha: its in the repos
[01:45] <flaccid> !info build-essentials
[01:45] <ubotu> Package build-essentials does not exist in gutsy
[01:45] <dev1n> is booting an alternate CD going to allow me to run linux live, without installing?
[01:45] <flaccid> oh maybe not
[01:45] <dev1n> because that's what I want to do...I don't want to install now.
[01:45] <speeddemon8803> oh, well, thats not cool
[01:45] <speeddemon8803> flaccid, it is
[01:45] <speeddemon8803> just not in the main ones :)
[01:45] <flaccid> dev1n: i think alternate is text only not live, but i could be wrong
[01:46] <flaccid> oh dang
[01:46] <speeddemon8803> your right flaccid
[01:46] <speeddemon8803> alternate is text only
[01:46] <dev1n> oh, that's no good.
[01:46] <Kanuha> should be a deb package available somewhere
[01:46] <puff> Hi guys.  A friend wants to experiment with linux, with linux acting as the access point.
[01:47] <dev1n> perhaps Ubuntu is the wrong choice...is there another live CD option that's more likely to work with my hardware?
[01:47] <cjones> how do you convert a Ogg Theora video to mpeg
[01:47] <DIL> dev1n: try knoppix
[01:47] <dev1n>  ok
[01:47] <Dr_willis> dev1n,  thers 100's of live cds out there. :) depends on what you wabnt.  Slax is nice as is knoppix
[01:47] <flaccid> dev1n: did you try the safe graphic mode option on normal livecd ?
[01:47] <puff> He wants to set up a freestanding hotspot (no internet connection at his house) and experiment wtih home automation devices that would communicate via wifi to a management program running on the linux box.
[01:47] <Tu13es> I want to install metacity from svn so I can use AWN, can anyone help me?
[01:47] <amenado> Kanuha-> just do a  sudo dpkg -d install packagename
[01:47] <speeddemon8803> dev1n, ubuntu is in constant development, so sometimes there isnt always a fix, but surely there is one coming up eventually :)
[01:48] <Scunizi> dev1n, the alternate cd is text based only .. get the live cd to run from the cd
[01:48] <soreau> Good day to all
[01:48] <dev1n> ok, I give up on Ubuntu
[01:48] <Kanuha> amenado, is it available on the cd?
[01:48] <dev1n> is there #knoppix?
[01:48] <soreau> I need help setting up LVM to RAID to HD's for software raid
[01:48] <puff> So he'd have to set up a dhcp server, what else would he install to have the linux box act as the router?
[01:48] <DIL> dev1n: no no what if it is your hardware?
[01:48] <Dr_willis> dev1n,  i have good luck with INSTALLING ubuntu with the altnerantive cd. even if the live cd has issues.
[01:48] <amenado> Kanuha-> dont know, have not searched the cdrom
[01:48] <soreau> dev1n: Ubuntu is the best
[01:49] <Dr_willis> The Ubuntu Live cd - is rather... basic in ways.
[01:49] <dev1n> ok, if UBUNTU is the best, then i should be able to get it to boot
[01:49] <uid000> hello, having trouble with spdif on my audigy 2.  anyone have experience with this?
[01:49] <solexious> [QQ] Trying to get my prism2 laptop wifi card to work, any help?
[01:49] <Scunizi> dev1n, how much memory do you have?
[01:49] <flaccid> puff: natd probably
[01:49] <flaccid> if its router
[01:50] <DIL> dev1n: could be your hardware? try knoppix see if you have the same probs
[01:50] <SimplySeth> if I do a "command line" install from my laptop to a USB drive and then put that drive in a CDRomLess Machine .. will it work ?
[01:50] <Starman> http://thelinuxnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-to-pick-linux-distro-livecd.html
[01:50] <amenado> puff no need to install anything to make an ubuntu box a router
[01:50] <Dr_willis> dev1n,   i lot can depend ont he specific hardware and your specific issues.   Testing with Other live cd's can give some ideas as to what the proiblems are.
[01:50] <soreau> I am installing on an alternate live cd and need help setting up software RAID and LVM
[01:50] <DIL> isnt Kubuntu a lighter version of ubuntu
[01:50] <hischild> dev1n, i haven't followed your story ... what is goin wrong?
[01:50] <SimplySeth> DIL: no .. xubuntu is
[01:50] <j_> I made sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[01:50] <Scunizi> DIL, no.. it's kde desktop, xubuntu is xfce
[01:50] <j_> I mess up big time messing it around so how i use my backup
[01:50] <hp> hey guys
[01:51] <FFEMTcJ> im thinking about installing ubuntu.. my email is on an exchange server, is there a mail client for ubuntu that will connect to exchange and do my mail/calendar/tasks/etc?
[01:51] <hp> i found an error that says: Bios bug found
[01:51] <soreau> Good evening. I am installing on an alternate live cd right now and need help setting up software RAID and LVM
[01:51] <j_> I made sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[01:51] <j_> how i use it back the way it is
[01:51] <DIL> dev1n: try xubuntu and see if it is more palatable to your hardware
[01:51] <Scunizi> FFEMTcJ, evolution has an exchange plugin
[01:51] <speeddemon8803> !exchange
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exchange - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <amenado> j_-> copy your  xorg.conf.backup to xorg.conf
[01:51] <foo> anyone have quake3 on linux? I don't see a package for it in apt
[01:51] <SimplySeth> soreau: ummm tell folks the issue and mebbe someone can help you :)
[01:51] <dev1n> hischild: i have a known good Ubuntu live CD that hangs at 100% when it tries to load the kernel on a dell inspiron 1000
[01:51] <FFEMTcJ> Scunizi: TY
[01:51] <solexious> [QQ] Trying to get my prism2 laptop wifi card to work, any help?
[01:51] <soreau> Ok
[01:51] <Scunizi> FFEMTcJ, np
[01:51] <dev1n> sometimes it hangs at 3%
[01:51] <Starman> http://thelinuxnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-to-pick-linux-distro-livecd.html
[01:51] <soreau> I just need guidance
[01:51] <dev1n> depending on which boot option i try.
[01:52] <j_> amenado so its sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:52] <ere4si> j_, good start - in terminal   sudo cp -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:52] <SimplySeth> soreau: okay .. guidance on ..... ?
[01:52] <hischild> dev1n, ok. have you been told to boot it verbosely by removing the quiet and splash option on the kernel line?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> hp,  Ive seen such messages at boot. when a module is checking for a known bios bug with specific bios's -   Its just a infomational message i belive.
[01:52] <amenado> j_-> affirmative
[01:52] <dev1n> yes, but I don't know how to do that
[01:52] <soreau> Good evening. I am installing on an alternate live cd right now and need help setting up software RAID and LVM
[01:52] <j_> amenado wil this do ere4si
[01:52] <ere4si> k
[01:52] <soreau> SimplySeth: ^^
[01:52] <dev1n> hischild: if I hit F6 i get boot options...i can edit that line
[01:52] <hp> Dr_willis: however when i tried to install 7.04, it keeps hanging. i keep getting the black screen
[01:52] <hischild> dev1n, ok. Once you get into the screen with the ubuntu logo and the options, hit f6. On the end of the line you'll see the options splash and quiet.
[01:53] <hischild> remove those
[01:53] <Tu13es> anyone using AWN with Metacity?
[01:53] <soreau> I need help partitioning the two disks to be seen as one in ubuntu
[01:53] <Bossmanbeta> ..hey Dr_willis
[01:53] <SimplySeth> soreau: so what happens .. if you just try to partition it ?
[01:53] <Scunizi> Tu13es, I don't think you can without compiz
[01:53] <Dr_willis> hp,  that may or may not be related to that 'bios bug' message. -   Try installing with the alternative cd?
[01:53] <soreau> Hello! I am installing on an alternate live cd right now and need help setting up software RAID and LVM.  I need help partitioning the two disks to be seen as one in ubuntu.
[01:53] <Dr_willis> Hello Bossmanbeta
[01:53] <amenado> solexious-> which ubuntu version do you have?
[01:53] <Tu13es> Scunizi: you can if you use the version that has compositing
[01:54] <ere4si> !raid | soreau
[01:54] <ubotu> soreau: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[01:54] <Scunizi> Tu13es, nice.. didn' t know
[01:54] <soreau> SimplySeth: I want to know what i should select at the partitioner
[01:54] <hp> Dr_willis: i have an alternative cd for 7.10. it doesn't run either
[01:54] <Dr_willis> soreau,  have you checked the install docs/guides at the ubuntu web site yet? Ive never used those features.
[01:54] <dev1n> hischild: ok, let me try that again
[01:54] <Tu13es> Scunizi: but I can't use compiz with this tablet :P
[01:54] <soreau> ere4si: right on
[01:54] <hp> Dr_willis: it keeps freezing up on me
[01:54] <ere4si> k
[01:54] <Dr_willis> hp,  so the instaler works, or dosent work? where does it freeze at?
[01:54] <hischild> dev1n, alright.
[01:54] <SimplySeth> soreau: manual if you don't want to use the whole disk or guided if you do
[01:54] <dev1n> hischild: t=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz
[01:54] <flaccid> bbl
[01:54] <SimplySeth> soreau: probably "Manual" since you are using two disks
[01:54] <soreau> SimplySeth: ere4si hit up ubotu for the links xD
[01:54] <dev1n> hischild: is that right?
[01:55] <dev1n> hischild: that's what it will look like if i backspace a bit
[01:55] <ere4si> !raid
[01:55] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[01:55] <hp> Dr_willis: checking for Cd drive, or disc. it freezes at 25%, 69% and 75%. each time i had to turn off the machine, after restarting it moves up a bit on the percentage bar
[01:55] <hischild> dev1n, if you only removed the quiet and plash, then that's correct
[01:55] <blockcipher> What format should I put my external drive in .. so ubuntu and windows xp can read it?   Thanks.  Would Fat32 to okay?
[01:55] <Starman> thanks ubotu
[01:55] <dev1n> hischild: there are two dashes after the quiet and the splash...remove those too?
[01:55] <Dr_willis> hp,  weird.  You might want to try the xubuntu cd's and check the forum for your exact brand/make pc - see if others have similer issues.
[01:55] <puff> amenado: No?
[01:56] <hischild> dev1n, those can be moved as far as i know. If not, it'll warn you
[01:56] <dev1n> ok
[01:56] <amenado> puff no!
[01:56] <Dr_willis> blockcipher,  fat32 is ok. But has limits.  You can read/write ext2/3 with the proper windows drivers in windows.. or read/write ntfs under linux with ntfs-3g
[01:56] <dev1n> hischild: it gives me the starting box..."loading kinux kernel"
[01:57] <dev1n> hischild: it's hung at 3%
[01:57] <dev1n> (as usual)
[01:57] <hischild> dev1n, .... no other warnings or anything?
[01:57] <dev1n> no
[01:57] <blockcipher> Dr_willis, has a size limit is that what you are refering to for fat32?
[01:57] <dev1n> hischild: let me know when you think i should give up waiting
[01:57] <dev1n> it's still at 3%
[01:57] <soreau> ere4si: So just install the ubuntu OS to one of the hard disks and then configure RAID?
[01:57] <Dr_willis> blockcipher,  isent there a 4gb file size limit for fat32.. I forget - been so long. :) i just use ntfs/ext3 these days
[01:58] <hischild> dev1n, alright ... try again ... this time again without the quiet and splash option and add  --> acpi=off <--
[01:58] <ere4si> soreau, don't do raid - just know the link :)
[01:58] <dev1n> ok
[01:58] <fire360> vim /home/folder, list lots of file, when i hit enter, i open the file. Q. how to close the file and still be inside that folder?
[01:58] <bascule> Dr_willis: yeah 2**32 bytes max file size
[01:58] <blockcipher> Dr_willis, cool  i just had issues getting to ntfs on my last ubutu load so I was trying to avoid that pain again :)
[01:58] <soreau> ere4si: Ok, thanks, I'll ask if I have a problem here I guess (ugh ;)
[01:58] <Dr_willis> blockcipher,  i have no issues read/writing ntfs.. :) or you could use ext2/3 and let windows read it with those drivers
[01:59] <ere4si> :)
[01:59] <Dr_willis> !ext2
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <Azodon> ubuntu is great, i was able to install kubuntu-desktop and remove 99% of the KDE apps and keep mostly just gnome apps or universal apps. and still try kde!
[01:59] <Dr_willis> !ext3 | blockcipher
[01:59] <ubotu> blockcipher: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[01:59] <blockcipher> Dr_willis, thanks i appreciate it :D
[01:59] <Zoiks> hey, could someone guide me through making a softraid in ubuntu
[01:59] <amenado> puff  sudo echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward;  sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE  is all you need assuming eth0 is WAN facing interface
[01:59] <Zoiks> i know how to make
[01:59] <Dr_willis> !raid
[01:59] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[01:59] <blockcipher> thanks ubotu
[02:00] <dev1n> hischild: still hangs with acpi=off
[02:00] <dev1n> exactly the same, at 3%
[02:00] <amenado> fire360-> you dont vim a folder, only regular files
[02:00] <Zoiks> i know how to do it
[02:00] <j1solutions> need help seting up a nexuiz server on 7.10
[02:00] <Zoiks> but it keeps buggering up
[02:01] <aSt3raL> how do i switch channels using the keyboard in the new xchat?
[02:01] <puff> amenado: Cool.
[02:01] <aSt3raL> it used to be alt+up/down
[02:01] <aSt3raL> and that doesnt work with the new update
[02:01] <ere4si> dev1n, tried   noapic nolapic   ?
[02:01] <Cromag> !wubi
[02:01] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://wubi-installer.org/
[02:01] <TrustNoOne> i just had a bowl of cocoa-puffs and im cuckoo man, CUCKOO
[02:01] <dev1n> ere4si: what is noapic noapic?
[02:01] <Cromag> site just down then.
[02:01] <Viper111> guys i need to download predefined access lists for suid from where i can fnd some
[02:01] <j1solutions> nexuiz help anyone?
[02:01] <hischild> dev1n, alright ... gimme a second while i look something up
[02:01] <dev1n> ere4si: do you sudgest adding that to the boot string?
[02:02] <Viper111> Squid***
[02:02] <dev1n> hischild: ok, thanks
[02:02] <fire360> amenado: i just did
[02:02] <ere4si> dev1n, yep - if it is a notebook
[02:02] <amenado> fire360-> and got a satisfying results?
[02:02] <puff> Back in a bit.
[02:03] <fire360> amenado: yes. i am searching for the close-command
[02:03] <Viper111> guys i need to download predefined access lists for squid from where i can fnd some
[02:03] <edi> algum brasileiro
[02:03] <DIL> dyslexia
[02:03] <amenado> fire360-> you are not understanding me, you do not edit a directory with vim!
[02:03] <Trebel> I have a Chaintech AV-710 sound card it is installed and working but I can only get 1 channel out of it, can anyone help me or point me to a spot where I can find how to change that to 5.1?
[02:03] <fire360> amenado: newer vim version can do more nowdays
[02:03] <amenado> fire360-> but to get out of edit mode, you :q!
[02:04] <dev1n> ere4si: ok, -->noapic noapic<-- in place of -->quiet splash<-- ?
[02:04] <dev1n> (it is a notebook)
[02:04] <hischild> ere4si, thanks ... that's what i was searching for
[02:04] <amenado> fire360-> it does not make sense, and what numbers would you plug in for file sizes and time stamps?
[02:04] <hischild> ere4si, btw ... isn't it apic=off instead of noapic?
[02:05] <dev1n> heh..which is it!?
[02:05] <ere4si> dev1n, just at the end - can have the splash if you want
[02:05] <dev1n> ok, after the two dashes?
[02:05] <DIL> ere4si: dyslexia? sb acpi no
[02:05] <dev1n> or before then...next to the quiet splash
[02:06] <ere4si> DIL: ? - read up on it
[02:06] <killown> hi , how I do to stick window on desktop for it don't hide window when I to click on show desktop icon?
[02:06] <dev1n> and is it apic, or noapic?
[02:06] <pyrak> is there a way to connect to my router from outside my lan?
[02:06] <amenado> pyrak how far outside?
[02:06] <pingu_> command for 'open' like opening a file in the terminal
[02:06] <ere4si> dev1n, at the end of the kernel line - type a space then   noapic nolapic
[02:06] <pyrak> amenado, erm... a school on the other coast of the US
[02:06] <amenado> pyrak can you elaborate on your network setup, what is acting as your router?
[02:07] <dev1n> ere4si: ok, did that...still hangs at 3%
[02:07] <pyrak> amenado, wrt54g
[02:07] <pyrak> amenado, i'm wondering if i'll be able to tweak port forwarding while i'm away
[02:07] <ere4si> dev1n, that was quick
[02:07] <amenado> pyrak your school uses a wrt54g ?
[02:07] <pyrak> amenado, no, but my home does
[02:07] <pingu_> command for 'open' like opening a file in the terminal
[02:07] <pyrak> amenado, i just set up a server at home
[02:07] <amenado> pyrak->  i asked you to elaborate ..
[02:07] <pyrak> amenado, and i'm going to go off to college eventaully
[02:08] <comicinker> whats the hardy channel?
[02:08] <dev1n> ok, i give up for now
[02:08] <pyrak> amenado, so plan to ssh to that server from school
[02:08] <RB2> comicinker, #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <dev1n> thanks everyone for your help
[02:08] <dev1n> ill be back!
[02:08] <pingu_> command for 'open' like opening a file in the terminal
[02:08] <pyrak> amenado, and if i want to add, another protocal, i want to be able to forward the port on my router
[02:08] <amenado> pyrak->  elaborate on how your network is setup, what devices, whats in between? dsl? dialup? what?
[02:09] <pyrak> amenado, does that make sense
[02:09] <pyrak> amenado, home: cable modem to wrt54g to server computer (by way of ethernet)
[02:09] <SimplySeth> !harddriveinstall
[02:09] <pyrak> amenado, and this server computer has a static ip
[02:10] <amenado> pyrak-> okay
[02:10] <SimplySeth> !alternateinstall
[02:10] <tgm4883_laptop> is it possible to install Gutsy onto a software RAID?
[02:10] <amenado> pyrak what about the wrt54g, does it gets a static ip from your cable ISP ?
[02:11] <pyrak> amenado, i'd imagine so.  most likely yes
[02:11] <SimplySeth> !alternate install
[02:11] <amenado> tgm4883-> i suggest to use a separate /boot partition to avoid difficulties
[02:11] <SimplySeth> !help
[02:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:11] <amenado> pyrak you dont want to leave and find out later it is not, too far to come home..
[02:11] <johansja> anybody using powertop here?
[02:11] <tgm4883_laptop> amenado, is there a guide or howto somewhere on that?
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm in the alt cd partitioner right now, but it doesn't help much
[02:12] <amenado> tgm4883-> you should read the guide before starting an install
[02:12] <pyrak> amenado, well let's assume yes.  i'm pretty sure.
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> amenado, what guide?
[02:13] <ConstyXIV> I got a "grub-install (hd0) failed" trying to install; how can i fix that?
[02:13] <killown> how I do to change emerald to metacity?
[02:13] <amenado> pyrak then make sure your wrt54g forwards the correct ports to your server/router/gateway
[02:13] <SimplySeth> !alternate install
[02:13] <amenado> tgm4883-> you asked if there was a guide, i assume there is, and you should have read it before starting your install
[02:13] <ere4si> killown, try in terminal   metacity --replace
[02:13] <pyrak> amenado, right, so the thing is, i want to know if i can connect to the router offsite to tweak port forwarding
[02:13] <amenado> killown-> i think  metacity --replace
[02:14] <amenado> pyrak want me to test it for you?
[02:14] <killown> ere4si, amenado thank you
[02:14] <ere4si> k
[02:14] <amenado> killown-> now to get back to emerald...i dont know..heh
[02:15] <gnychis> whats the proper way to upgrade to flash 7 with ubuntu and firefox?
[02:16] <MrPiracy> how can i change screensaver without going to /system/properties/screensaver ?
[02:16] <icesword> !flash
[02:16] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:16] <Azodon> is there a hardy chan?
[02:16] <icesword> #ubuntu +1
[02:18] <Starman> ubotu:........>thanks
[02:18] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:18] <Zoiks> should i be using mdadm or mdraid for making a raid 5
[02:19] <MrPiracy> how can i change screensaver without going to /system/properties/screensaver ?
[02:19] <gnychis> are the repository mirrors rate limited to 40Kbps for all clients? I can't seem to find a server which I get more than 40K
[02:19] <triorieel> Ive done something under my username to make colors in videos to go wrong
[02:19] <triorieel> ^^in totem
[02:19] <cjones> how do you convert a Ogg Theora video to mpeg
[02:20] <tinman> I am been frantically trying to fix my xorg, everything seems to be working but the mouse, nay ideas?
[02:20] <ere4si> cjones, there is an app called avidemux that will do that
[02:20] <Odd-rationale> cjones: You can use an online tool: http://www.zamzar.com
[02:20] <MrPiracy> is gutsy the last ubuntu version? 7.10?
[02:20] <cjones> thanks thats what i am looking for
[02:20] <killown> I would like that any windows stick on desktop to when I click in minimize it not minimize somebody how do I it?
[02:21] <Odd-rationale> MrPiracy: Yes. it is the latest.
[02:21] <MrPiracy> Odd-rationale: so hardy is older?
[02:21] <ere4si> MrPiracy, 8.04 comes out in april - it is beta atm - so gutsy is the latest stable
[02:21] <Odd-rationale> !hardy | MrPiracy
[02:21] <ubotu> MrPiracy: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:21] <tinman> I tried a number of configuration, psaux with PS/2 for my mouse as well, if there is a way to make xorg auto detect it, would be best option
[02:21] <icesword> hi,i am in a shell,how to know how many cpus i have
[02:21] <Starman> is there a way to split irc screen into two different channels?
[02:21] <icesword> this maybe stupid
[02:22] <MrPiracy> Odd-rationale: thanx :)
[02:22] <Odd-rationale> MrPiracy: It is not older. It is simply released yet.
[02:22] <Starman> one on top of the other?
[02:22] <Odd-rationale> *not
[02:22] <Dr_willis> Starman,  depends ion your irc client i imagine.
[02:22] <ere4si> killown: you can remove the minimize button from windows with the gconf-editor
[02:22] <Starman> I'm using chatzilla
[02:22] <Zoiks> should i be using mdadm or mdraid for making a raid 5
[02:22] <tinman> Starman: then probably not
[02:22] <gnychis> whats the proper way to upgrade to flash 7 with ubuntu and firefox?
[02:22] <icesword> hi,i am in a shell,how to know how many cpus i have
[02:22] <tinman> Starman: possible with irssi
[02:23] <Starman> ok......thanks
[02:23] <Dr_willis> Starman,  you might want to go research some alternative irc clients - chatzilla is rather basic.
[02:23] <Starman> k
[02:23] <Starman> so am I
[02:23] <Starman> lol
[02:23] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, I'm only familiar with mdadm - not sure what mdraid is - I used mdadm to set up 2-disc raid-1 mirror
[02:23] <Zoiks> ok thanks... just having a horrible time with a raid 5
[02:23] <MrPiracy> Odd-rationale: ok, i tried to install this screensaver http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-the-eternity-screensaver-in-ubuntu.html on gutsy, but apparently it is designed for feisty. Now I cant even go screensaver to change it. Any way to do it through the terminal?
[02:24] <snypzz> what is a good linux multi channel client
[02:24] <Species8473> is there any swedish channel?
[02:24] <snypzz> ???
[02:24] <ere4si> snypzz, I use xchat
[02:24] <Odd-rationale> MrPiracy: Let me look...
[02:24] <snypzz> me too
[02:24] <ere4si> 7 channels atm
[02:24] <Odd-rationale> MrPiracy: how about: sudo apt-get remove eternal-ubuntu
[02:25] <snypzz> I want to view multiple channels on the screen at the same tim
[02:25] <MrPiracy> Odd-rationale: :) seems obvious, let me try it
[02:25] <DIL> i use xchat for this and mysql channels simultaneously
[02:25] <ere4si> snypzz, don't know about that...
[02:25] <Zyferian> I'm fresh installing Ubuntu on a dual boot with XP Pro installed already... should I use guided install? Or manual?
[02:25] <tinman> wols_: hello
[02:25] <hischild> snypzz, fire up xchat multiple times?
[02:26] <tinman> snypzz: use irssi with screens?
[02:26] <triorieel> My blue's are red and my reds are blues in totem...this happened after I tried installing stuff to fix my totem.  any ideas? (a reset to hardware defaults in nvidia xvideo fixes only currently playing videos)
[02:26] <DIL> i join and watch the comic bubble
[02:26] <snypzz> need to go to UBUNTU all out
[02:26] <tinman> snpyou can split the windows in irssi so you can see multiple channels at the same time
[02:26] <triorieel> ^the super user doesn't seem effected by it
[02:26] <snypzz> I was using dual also
[02:26] <snypzz> it's hard to accept free
[02:27] <gnychis> when trying to save something in firefox, if I am in a directory which has subdirectories and a subdirectory is highlighted and i hit "save", it will open that subdirectory instead of saving the current directory.  is it possible to change this behavior?
[02:27] <Dr_willis> snypzz,  you could always take an irc client that can have channels in their own windows.. and resize the windows.
[02:27] <snypzz> but sometimes time is more than money$$$
[02:27] <Zyferian> Until I'm more comfortable in Linux, I need to have Windows for schoolwork.
[02:27] <MrPiracy> Odd-rationale: hmmm, it didn't work .... it gives me the login screen when i try to enter screensaver settings
[02:27] <DIL> i donate via paypal
[02:28] <snypzz> how do I get the cube to work?
[02:28] <tinman> So, i have been trying to fix my x server after somehow failed to start, i have got the basics down, but my mouse isen't working, any ideas?
[02:28] <Dr_willis> !cube | snypzz
[02:28] <ubotu> snypzz: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[02:29] <Dr_willis> snypzz,  install ccsm, and enable '4' desktops - i think is the short answer. :)
[02:29] <MrPiracy> how can i change screensaver settings?
[02:29] <exneo_> in synaptic search compiz and you will be returned with an opengl manager
[02:29] <SimplySeth> okay .. just installed a command line only install .. is there a script that sets up the network interfaces ?
[02:29] <Benalex> Hello, Is there any news about the upcoming new release of ubuntu??... should be version 8.04 right?
[02:29] <Zyferian> Anyone have any ideas of whether to use Guided install or Manual install on a fresh Ubuntu install on a HD which also has XP Pro installed?
[02:30] <tinman> From what i gather my mouse is PS/2 but the xserver-xorg gives me so many option redarding the protocols and such, is there a way to maybe make xorg.conf auto detect my mouse and protocol
[02:30] <MrPiracy> Zyferian: what exactly do u want to do?
[02:30] <Flannel> !hardy | Benalex
[02:30] <ubotu> Benalex: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:30] <snypzz> is there a screencast on  compiz
[02:30] <snypzz> ???
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> MrPiracy: Did it work?
[02:31] <Zyferian> MrPiracy: I'm trying to get Ubuntu installed on a hard drive that also has XP Pro installed, without losing any data.
[02:31] <MrPiracy> Odd-rationale: nope
[02:31] <AtomicSpark> whenever i upload or download files, ubuntu maxes out my connection. this never happend in windows (maybe it was limited) but is this supposed to happen? i mean.. other computers can barely use the internet lol.
[02:31] <MrPiracy> Zyferian: you should go manual so you can choose the partition where u want ubuntu installed
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> Zyferian: You can use: Guided - Resize partition and use freed space
[02:31] <ere4si> tinman, have you tried   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   to see if a second go will give better results?
[02:32] <snypzz> you need wibu
[02:32] <snypzz> dual boot
[02:32] <snypzz> xp
[02:32] <Odd-rationale> MrPiracy: What did it say when you tried to remove the package?
[02:32] <MrPiracy> Odd-rationale: i guess the screensaver is uninstalled, but when i get to the screensaver settings, it gives me back the login screen
[02:32] <snypzz> google it...
[02:32] <tinman> ere4si: the is what i ahve been doing
[02:32] <MrPiracy> i removed it successfully
[02:32] <ere4si> k
[02:32] <Starman> brb
[02:32] <tinman> ere4si: that is also how i fixed all other srtull, my entire s server wasent somehow woeking
[02:32] <Odd-rationale> MrPiracy: It brings you to gdm?
[02:33] <tinman> ere4si: that asks me about my mouse protocol and what not which i am not sure about nor do i have any documents regarding my mouse
[02:33] <ere4si> tinman, sorry - can't offer more than that
[02:33] <triorieel> is it just me, or is playback of media really buggy on ubuntu?
[02:33] <MrPiracy> yes
[02:33] <MrPiracy> Odd-rationale: yes
[02:34] <macgaiver> bonjour à tous
[02:34] <tinman> ere4si: i read somewhere that there was a way to make xorg aut detect my protocol but it didnt say how, it just said edit xorg.conf
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> MrPiracy: maybe you could try reinstalling the gnome screensaver package and see if that helps.
[02:34] <ere4si> tinman, I'll have a quick google
[02:35] <tinman> ere4si: thanks :]
[02:35] <macgaiver> quelqu'un comprend le français ? car j'aurai besoin d'aide sur une instal Ubuntu
[02:35] <konner> hello
[02:35] <Zyferian> Is there a nice tutorial on how I should set up the partitions manually for a good install?
[02:35] <DIL> !fr
[02:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:35] <ere4si> tinman, standard ubuntu install with a ps2 mouse?
[02:35] <MrPiracy> Odd-rationale: how do i do that?
[02:35] <konner> how do i change my user to automaticly login?\
[02:36] <macgaiver> merci
[02:36] <tinman> ere4si: yeah, 7.1 licecd, optical PS/2 mouse
[02:36] <ere4si> k
[02:36] <ere4si> tinman, logitech mouse?
[02:36] <SimplySeth> what is the name of the driver for realtek devices ?
[02:36] <amenado> tinman try this.. save your xorg.conf now, then erase xorg.conf and on a console type X -configure :1    this creates a file called xorg.conf.new  ..
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> MrPiracy: I'm not using gnome anymore, so I really don't know the name. Try searching with synaptic for "screensaver" and see what you get.
[02:36] <tinman> ere4si: no idea
[02:37] <ere4si> k
[02:37] <tinman> amenado: i tired deleting xorg.conf, dosent work, i need to set it to vesa to get it to the login screen
[02:37] <karuna_bdc> anybody know any good games for linux?
[02:37] <konner> how do i change my user to automaticly login?\
[02:37] <amenado> tinman did you do X -configure :1  ?
[02:37] <tinman> amenado: nosir
[02:37] <uberspaced> easiest way to get to the newest distribution of ubuntu when debian is installed?
[02:37] <amenado> tinman can you try?
[02:37] <uberspaced> no cds, just through the internets.
[02:38] <tinman> amenado: am i to do this in recovery terminal?
[02:38] <tinman> amenado: or can i do this in livecd?
[02:38] <amenado> tinman you are on a liveCD? forget what i just told you
[02:38] <triorieel> Does anyone here know how to get media playback under linux that uses hardware acceleration for scaling and doesn't produce errors on playback?
[02:38] <ere4si> tinman, seen this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[02:38] <tinman> amenado: onpe, windows :s
[02:38] <tinman> ere4si: okey, thanks
[02:38] <SimplySeth> hmmm must not be my night
[02:38] <uberspaced> i don't want to zcat netboot.img.gz > /dev/hdb, then boot off of it, then muck around with things
[02:39] <nano__> hey guys, i installed all the necessary dvd player rquired codecs....and try to play dvd, but nothing worked.     After 20 minutes, I tried again without changing anything and then it worked
[02:39] <karuna_bdc> can anyone reccomend any good games for ubuntu?
[02:39] <nano__> ???
[02:39] <nano__> any clues
[02:39] <killown> how do I to lock the position of any windows on desktop  to it not hide when click on show desktop or minimize buttom?
[02:39] <uberspaced> hmmm.  I'll just see if I can hose the system by doing it to a drive that's mounted.
[02:39] <tinman> killown: rightclick the pannel and select "Always on top" works for me
[02:40] <karuna_bdc> ubotu etiquette
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[02:40] <uberspaced> hehe, looks like it worked.
[02:41] <chairmeleon> is it practically possible to just pull the source packages for certain ubuntu specific utilities and have them compile in debian...do you think?
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> chairmeleon, like what?
[02:42] <SimplySeth> oh man
[02:42] <SimplySeth> this is frustratin'
[02:42] <pangel> I have a problem with the Cisco vpnclient. Although I can access the local network of my campus, I can't get access to internet through my university's proxy. I used to use vpnc and it worked, but it was too unstable so I had to switch to vpnclient. Is there something that needs to be done to link the ubuntu network manager to vpnclient?
[02:43] <DIL> breaktru will result in elation!!
[02:43] <icesword> hello
[02:43] <icesword> what command to see what motherboard i use
[02:43] <karuna_bdc> icesword: Hi
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> SimplySeth, what is frustrating?
[02:44] <icesword> dmesg | grep (what)
[02:44] <tinman> ere4si: hmm, mouse works in live cd, maybe i can copy that configuration >:)
[02:44] <ere4si> I would tinman
[02:45] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak:  I don't know how Ubuntu (command line) does the initial network setup
[02:45] <chairmeleon> IndyGunFreak: Like that very handy-looking X configuration utility
[02:45] <tinman> ere4si:  [03:45] [tinman(+i) (zZzZ)] [5:#ubuntu(+JLcfnt 2,5 #ubuntu-unregged)]
[02:45] <tinman> [#ubuntu] ere4si:
[02:45] <tinman> sorry :<
[02:45] <ere4si> hehe
[02:45] <Devourer> What package do I download to get SVN?
[02:45] <tinman> pasted wrong hing
[02:45] <Flannel> Devourer: subversion
[02:45] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak: mebbe if I at least new the name of the modules to load I'd be okay
[02:46] <ere4si> !svn
[02:46] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> chairmeleon: i see.. i don't know what to say.
[02:46] <tinman> I am too used to copy on select and paste on middle mouse click :<
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> SimplySeth: why don't you have a GUI?
[02:46] <triorieel> I need help to play videos...lets start from scratch cause I will only confuse you by explaining what I have tried...
[02:46] <chairmeleon> IndyGunFreak: well I guess I'll just try, shouldn't cause any major hosage :D
[02:46] <tinman> /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 <- ere4si that is where to look for in liveCD right?
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:47] <icesword> what command to see what motherboard i use,
[02:47] <tinman> tim__b: "vedio"  as in vedio card or vedio format?
[02:47] <ere4si> tinman, I would think xorg.conf
[02:47] <tinman> triorieel: *
[02:47] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak: 'cause this machine is 7.04 with no cdrom so I installed from my laptop to usb drive
[02:47] <tinman> ere4si: thanks ^^
[02:47] <ere4si> k
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> SimplySeth: oh i see.
[02:48] <icesword> what command to see what motherboard i use,
[02:48] <killown> how do I to lock the position of any windows on desktop  to it not hide when click on show desktop or minimize buttom?
[02:48] <icesword> !dmesg
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <icesword> !demsg
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demsg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <tinman> kies: reight click on pannel and "always on top"
[02:48] <icesword> !info demsg
[02:48] <tinman> killo*
[02:49] <ubotu> Package demsg does not exist in gutsy
[02:49] <ere4si> dmesg isn't a package
[02:49] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak: heh .. I don't know what I did .. but I can see eth1 and eth2 now
[02:49] <killown> how do I to lock the position of any windows on desktop  to it not hide when click on show desktop or minimize buttom?
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> SimplySeth: lol, well thats good.
[02:50] <SimplySeth> Indy .. I think I stumbled onto the right module
[02:50] <MarcN> After my last update, my palm pilot no longer connects.  No /dev/ttyUSBx devices get created.  Ideas?  visor and usb-serial modules are loaded.
[02:50] <icesword> ere4si, dmesg | grep (what) to see my motherboard message
[02:50] <triorieel> I'm now trying to install my own totem to see if that will make things better but it complains that the gstreamer development packages are not installed (which synaptic begs to differ)
[02:50] <Cromag> any channels for wubi ?
[02:50] <sami> How come when i add fonts to files section in xorg.conf they only show up in xfontsel and not in say, gnome-terminal.
[02:50] <deuryte> I have a ati 9200 se tv out graphics card, which drivers should be picked in the graphics manue to get it to work?
[02:50] <triorieel> ^Im trying to compile
[02:51] <ere4si> icesword, I'm pretty sure you can't get th mb name - only the h/w on it
[02:51] <icesword> :(
[02:52] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak: now there is no apt LOL
[02:52] <sami> How come when i add fonts to files section in xorg.conf they only show up in xfontsel and not in say, gnome-terminal?
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> SimplySeth: hm, no tellin what you've done
[02:52] <rico42955> please help: I rebooted and ubuntu came up black/white in fullscreen term
[02:53] <tinman> Hmm, can I copy the fonts from windows  to ubuntu and make it work?
[02:53] <root1> hello
[02:53] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak: I connected my 2.5 drive to my laptop booted with the alternate install cd for "command" line install .. when it was done .. I placed the drive in my mini-itx box and booted
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> rico42955: what did you do prior to restarting
[02:54] <ere4si> tinman, there is a port of the ms fonts to ubuntu
[02:54] <heash> how much GB does ubuntu actually take up after the installation?
[02:54] <Zyferian> Did you all know that there is no Guided - Resizing option in the G Ubuntu installer?
[02:54] <SimplySeth> heash: 2Gb and up
[02:54] <tinman> ere4si: ahh, okey
[02:54] <ere4si> heash, about 2+G
[02:54] <rico42955> tried to open file manager for computer
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> SimplySeth: well, thats a pretty unusual way to install.
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> rico42955: type "startx" at the prompt
[02:55] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak: I have no spare cd drive to install into my mini-itx box with
[02:55] <ere4si> heash, but it needs some elbow room :)
[02:55] <eifzon> anyone here can help me to jail irssi?
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> SimplySeth: can it boot a USB disk?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> eifzon,  jail?
[02:55] <triorieel> how do I install beta versions of programs in ubuntu?
[02:55] <eifzon> Dr_willis: yes?
[02:55] <eifzon> So the user only can access irssi
[02:55] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak: yes it can .. :)
[02:55] <rico42955> and on the tast bar it jst said starting computer and did nothing and the power button
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> !install | SimplySeth
[02:55] <ubotu> SimplySeth: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:55] <googlingtingwana> icesword, I don't think the motherboard identifies itself in any way, just the hardware it contains
[02:55] <root1> anybody know how to manage ports in use in ubuntu?
[02:55] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak:  I think I know where I went wrong .. I didn't have the laptop connected to the net when I installed
[02:56] <rico42955> in the top right just showed block as fonts
[02:56] <triorieel> ^^I see ubuntu hardy uses the totem version I am failing to compile and would like to know how to install hardy's version
[02:56] <Dr_willis> eifzon,  set the users path to include only a direcory that contains irssi, check out the bash man pages for the secure bash option also.
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> SimplySeth: that could be part of it.
[02:56] <icesword> googlingtingwana, hmmm
[02:56] <Dr_willis> eifzon,  'restricted bash' i think is the area  you may want to read about
[02:56] <eifzon> Dr_willis: oké
[02:56] <SimplySeth> IndyGunFreak: lemme go to the other laptop and do it again
[02:56] <eifzon> Dr_willis: but hmm, isnt it just only to change in the /etc/passwd file?
[02:57] <root1> exit
[02:58] <konner> can someone help me change my user to automatic login
[02:58] <Dr_willis> eifzon,  depends on exactly what you want to do. If you are wanting to set their  'shell' to irssi.. thats... a little weird. and may cause issues. Try it and see.
[02:58] <triorieel> how do I download and install packages belonging to the hardy version (feisty can't play video files, so I want to try hardy's player)
[02:59] <Itaku> how do i display my linux version in terminal??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[02:59] <Flannel> triorieel: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support
[02:59] <Flannel> Itaku: kernel? or ubuntu version?
[02:59] <MarcN> Itaku: uname -a
[02:59] <Itaku> thanks
[02:59] <triorieel> Flannel: ty
[02:59] <Flannel> !prevu | triorieel
[02:59] <ubotu> triorieel: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[02:59] <icesword> triorieel, no,you need the codecs
[02:59] <Itaku> but i want it to say ubuntu too
[02:59] <Flannel> Itaku: lsb_release -a
[02:59] <icesword> !codecs > triorieel
[02:59] <ere4si> !version | Itaku
[02:59] <ubotu> Itaku: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[02:59] <deuryte> THATS IT!!!  ANY OF YOU MONSTERS KNOW OF DRIVERS FOR A  ATI  9200 SE???   BUNCH OF BABIES!!!
[03:00] <konner> can someone help me change my user to automatic login
[03:00] <Flannel> !caps | deuryte
[03:00] <ubotu> deuryte: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:00] <deuryte> 4
[03:00] <omnistegan> Hey guys, I'm having trouble getting my microphone to record in Audacity. Everything is muted except Front, Microphone, and Analog Mix. All my options for input device produce nothing, even though I can clearly hear myself through my headphones. Any suggestions?
[03:01] <triorieel> icesword: I went wild with trying to install stuff to get my current version of Totem to play stuff...now the colors are messed and want to start from scratch with a new version
[03:01] <konner> can someone help me change my user to automatic login
[03:01] <ere4si> konner: that is an option you can select in system - admin - login
[03:02] <icesword> triorieel, a new version,you just want totem,or you want other apps?you could uninstall it first,then install
[03:02] <konner> !compiz
[03:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:02] <heash> it seems that with compiz fusion, the window always shifts a little to the right.. how do i fix that so the window would stay on the same desktop?
[03:03] <|Torg|> is there a way to take a dpkg output of one box and install it on another?
[03:03] <ere4si> heash, try in #compiz-fusion
[03:04] <triorieel> icesword: just totem so it plays files with giving me an error everynow and then
[03:04] <triorieel> *without
[03:05] <icesword> triorieel, i told you you need codecs
[03:05] <ere4si> !codecs
[03:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:06] <triorieel> icesword: I currently have codecs...one fo them was giving me an error about stream overrun and now it plays files, but my colors are backwards
[03:06] <IanLiu> How do I add syntax highlight to VIM in Ubuntu??
[03:06] <lakeoftea> has anyone ever screen ubuntu work with a touch screen???
[03:06] <Dr_willis> IanLiu,  install the full vim package and i edit the vimrc config to make it the default.
[03:06] <icesword> triorieel, do a totally upgrade will give you a better poformance
[03:07] <elfprince13> anyone here familiar with netatalk/pap printing?
[03:07] <icesword> performance
[03:07] <Dr_willis> IanLiu,  by default i think the 'tiny vim' is installed - it dont support it  (i think) :)
[03:07] <rico42955> IndyGunFreak I tried startx and it failed opening libXau.so.6's
[03:07] <triorieel> icesword: whats a totally upgrade?
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> rico42955: i have no clue what that is, sorry
[03:07] <Qaenyin> Does someone here know a Mieora?
[03:08] <mneptok> !offtopic | Qaenyin
[03:08] <ubotu> Qaenyin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:08] <icesword> triorieel, that is usually sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:08] <triorieel> icesword: is that the same as the upgrade in the top right of the screen? (if so I have done it)
[03:08] <icesword> triorieel, yeah,maybe
[03:09] <rico42955> can I reinstall without having to wipe the partition?
[03:09] <ere4si> rico42955, nope
[03:09] <rico42955> yuk hehe
[03:09] <elfprince13> rico: good reason to have a separate /home/ partition
[03:09] <Azodon>  /msg ubotu etiquette
[03:09] <Azodon> oopx
[03:09] <ere4si> rico42955, making a seperate /home partition saves alot of hassles
[03:10] <rico42955> i'm not sure what that means, really new at this :/
[03:10] <sean_> I just reinstalled windows as my second os, now it doesnt open GRUB before starting windows
[03:11] <rico42955> i had this install take part of the xp partition
[03:11] <sean_> how do i get GRUB back without reinstalling ubuntu?
[03:11] <elfprince13> sean_: still have your install disc?
[03:11] <elfprince13> rico: when you're running the graphical installer create a second partition, for /home
[03:11] <elfprince13> and all your personal files get mounted there
[03:11] <sean_> elfprince13, yes
[03:11] <ere4si> rico42955, during install you can choose manual partitioning and make a partition for your /home folder so at the next install all your files can be left intact
[03:12] <sami> How come when i add fonts to files section in xorg.conf they only show up in xfontsel and not in say, gnome-terminal?
[03:12] <Barmin> Hi! I'm looking for help on installing Ubuntu. Can someone please help me?
[03:12] <konner> ok now that i got my panels set
[03:12] <rutoro> Barmin: What kind of problem do you seem to be having?
[03:12] <elfprince13> sean_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[03:13] <Barmin> rutoro: Hi. When I boot from disc, I get an error telling me it couldn't XServer failed. Then it keeps saying it couldn't find bcm43xx_microcode5.fw
[03:13] <sean_> elfprince13, I dont have a live CD i have an alternate
[03:13] <ere4si> sami: gnome terminal has its' own setup for fonts - edit - profile - general tab
[03:14] <sean_> elfprince, any way to get to the command line otherwise?
[03:14] <Barmin> *it couldn't start GDM, beccause XServer failed.
[03:14] <Azodon> no way to resize paration and add /home partition?
[03:14] <hashbangfoo> command line is usually crtl+alt+F1
[03:14] <Azodon> partition
[03:14] <rutoro> Barmin: have you tried redownloading the ISO disk and reburning it?
[03:14] <rico42955> I had the install take 30g of 120g for ubuntu, are you saying in that 30g make 2 partitions?
[03:14] <elfprince13> sean_: i haven't installed from an alternate CD before, but probably
[03:15] <hashbangfoo> you should be able to install in 8G
[03:15] <elfprince13> sean_: lemme google it
[03:15] <Barmin> Yep. I have 2 discs. None of them work. And I checked them both with the boot menu.
[03:15] <sami> ere4si: Where do i set fonts for that then?
[03:15] <rutoro> Quoting http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404573, try reconfiguring xServer by typing
[03:15] <rutoro> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:16] <elfprince13> Sean_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-ec3e41291c7a5a7b61d7827299415204067765de
[03:16] <rutoro> You'll have to go through some options
[03:16] <Barmin> I'll try, but I'm not shure I have access to the console.
[03:16] <ere4si> sami: at the top of gnome terminal is a menu - click edit - then profile - then the general tab has a fonts selection option
[03:16] <konner> Can someone help me install the emerald theme manager.
[03:16] <konner> It says i have missing packages
[03:16] <hashbangfoo> @Barmin try ctrl+alt+f1
[03:17] <rutoro> There should be a way to install from text mode I think on the boot menu
[03:17] <rutoro> Yeah, taht'd work too
[03:17] <ere4si> konner: did you get it from synaptic?
[03:17] <sami> ere4si: Yes, that i know but how do i set gnome-terminal to use a font-dir
[03:17] <Barmin> Thank you both. I'll try again now, and come back. Thanks!
[03:18] <rutoro> Good luck!
[03:18] <elfprince13> so, i take it none of you people are familiar with netatalk and/or pap?
[03:18] <Alan_M> im sorry for the constant name changes guys, trying to group a name that wasnt available supposedly :)
[03:18] <konner> Can someone help me install the emerald theme manager.
[03:18] <konner> It says i have missing packages
[03:18] <elfprince13> guess I'll go check the ppc channel
[03:19] <ere4si> sami: all fonts should go in the one dir - click the help button in the panel and search fonts
[03:19] <Azodon> why doesn't Ubuntu installer automaticly create  separate /home partition. ot have the option, not just full hdd or manual
[03:19] <slugz> how do you find out your ip address from the terminal, when i type ifconfig, i only see the one  that the router gives
[03:20] <Azodon> google what is my ip
[03:20] <icesword> ip addr
[03:20] <elfprince13> slugz: www-browser www.whatismyip.com
[03:20] <hashbangfoo> Azondon - that is under custom when u partition
[03:20] <elfprince13> slugz * www-browser http://www.whatismyip.com
[03:21] <SimplySeth> *thinks it would be cool to an ubuntu based firewall/nat distro
[03:21] <IanLiu> Oh, I didn't know Ubuntu used tiny vim >.<
[03:21] <Alan_M> simplyseth, if you know how to remaster ubuntu's iso's you could easily do it yourself :)
[03:21] <IanLiu> thanks guys!
[03:22] <SimplySeth> Alan_M:  sounds tempting :)
[03:22] <Alan_M> Beauty of linux :)
[03:22] <elfprince13> SimplySeth: why make a separate distro?
[03:22] <Alan_M> because it would teach you about a lot of things...how the kernels inerts work.
[03:23] <Alan_M> i guess im just a geek who loves messing with linux and making new stuff :)
[03:23] <elfprince13> haha, I wish i still had time to do that
[03:23] <konner> can someone help me install libwnck18 for emerald
[03:24] <Optimus55> hello
[03:24] <Alan_M> !hi | Optimus55
[03:24] <ubotu> Optimus55: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:24] <elfprince13> konner: last time i did that I had some SERIOUS dependency issues
[03:24] <hashbangfoo> konner - sudo apt-cache search libwnck18
[03:24] <elfprince13> ubuntu has a n ewer version of libwinck
[03:24] <elfprince13> *libwnck
[03:24] <konner> Then i cant install emerald
[03:25] <cyrusjunior> Hello everyone
[03:25] <solexious> [QQ] How can i find out my network name *command name*
[03:25] <Dravas`> Hey I've recently installed ubuntu 7.10 on this hp compaq nx9110 and a lot of documation i've come across on google and ubuntu forums is for 5.x and 6.x my problems are that only the boot sound works and wireless doesnt work (its atheros wifi apparently)
[03:25]  * SimplySeth just did a strang ubuntu install 
[03:26] <slugz> if config
[03:26] <Dravas`> anyone have some info for 7.10?
[03:26] <nu2buntu> hi! i need a help, i want to resize my ubuntu partition for the winxp ntfs drive as it needs for space. i tried partition magic in xp or gparted in ubuntu, but it seems that the ext3 is locked. any help will be appreciated. thx
[03:26] <SimplySeth> s/strang/strange/
[03:26] <elfprince13> konner: do some googling, somebody's likely done it. what version of ubuntu do you have?
[03:26] <jahisthebalance> you're not trying to resize a partition on a mounted drive are you?
[03:27] <konner> 7.10 gusty
[03:27] <hashbangfoo> @konner  - did you get the priv msg?
[03:27] <konner> yeah
[03:27] <hashbangfoo> did you try it
[03:28] <hashbangfoo> ?
[03:28] <solexious> slugs: that doesnt seem to show the name
[03:28] <konner> yeah
[03:28] <konner> doesnt work
[03:28] <hashbangfoo> whazzit say?
[03:28] <elfprince13> konner: 7.10 do emerald fine
[03:28] <elfprince13> *should do
[03:28] <konner> How come i cant install it
[03:29] <SimplySeth> anybody gotta realtek NIC ?
[03:29] <elfprince13> did you do an in-place upgrade from an older version?
[03:29] <konner> no
[03:29] <Kuwanger> So, I have a stupid question.  Why is it that I have a /dev/sequencer but it doesn't seem to work?
[03:29] <konner> it came like this
[03:29] <subcool> how do you make ubuntu share its Wifi- or  connect to both at the same time- and not share the internet.
[03:29] <elfprince13> Dravas`: I found some info on atheros wireless cards
[03:29] <nu2buntu> jahisthebalance:  yes ... i want to resize this mounted drive for the winxp ntfs
[03:29] <elfprince13> under ubuntu
[03:30] <martyvis> SimplySeth: sure RTL-8029
[03:30] <Dravas`> yes?
[03:30] <sean_> elfprince13, it seemed to work but now on the reboot it says "error loading operating system"
[03:30] <hashbangfoo> oops
[03:30] <hashbangfoo> dang
[03:30] <elfprince13> Dravas`: try the madwifi package
[03:30] <jahisthebalance> well I'm not an expert, but the thing to do would be to run gparted off of your livecd
[03:30] <cyrusjunior> hi All.
[03:30] <nu2buntu> jahisthebalance:  i only gave 10gb for winxp when i created partition for ubuntu ..now i need more space for winxp ... any chance?
[03:30] <cyrusjunior> How is everyone doing?
[03:31] <hashbangfoo> its pretty hard to fubar a whole install without premeditation
[03:31] <Dravas`> mk
[03:31] <elfprince13> Dravas`: if you're wireless card is newer than it supports, there's directions here for building a newer version: http://hamzakc.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/atheros-wireless-setup-ubuntu/
[03:31] <nu2buntu> jahisthebalance:  you mean i should run gparted on livecd ?
[03:31] <Starman> hash..........>lol
[03:31] <triorieel> I have completely killed my GStreamer somehow....how do I completely remove it and install it again without losing ALL of my programs that use it.  (its so messed up the volume program is giving errors)
[03:31] <elfprince13> sean_: can you get to grub?
[03:31] <hashbangfoo> word
[03:31] <SimplySeth> okay .. is there a command that shows me what dependencies apt has ?
[03:32] <sean_> elfprince13, i found an old live cd
[03:32]  * beautifulsnow asks if it's possible to install the gnome based add/remove in Kubuntu, and if so, what's the application name for it ^_^
[03:32] <SimplySeth> beautifulsnow: synaptic ?
[03:32] <sean_> elfprince13, but i cant get to grub
[03:32] <jahisthebalance> yeah man, if you have the livecd boot into that and you should be able to play with the partitions somewhat... if the hard disk is mounted you won't be able to do too much
[03:33] <beautifulsnow> SimplySeth, no, the one you get when you go Start->Add/Remove
[03:33] <sami> ere4si: wtf happened to standards? ubuntu wont take pcfs
[03:33] <ere4si> sami: pcfs?
[03:33] <elfprince13> sean_: did you try following the directions for a livecd instead?
[03:33] <nu2buntu> jahisthebalance:  ok i will try ... but one question ..does this will affect anything ?
[03:34] <sami> ere4si: standard *nix font sets
[03:34] <Barmin> Hi, I'm back
[03:34] <Starman> nu2.......it's always wise to backup all
[03:34] <ere4si> sami: if it is astandard *nix then it will
[03:35] <ere4si> !wtf | sami
[03:35] <z> Hey, my hard drive is on the fritz... disk usage is more than it should be[afaik], by gigs
[03:35] <ubotu> sami: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:35] <sami> No it wont. One main font dir is weird enough
[03:35] <jahisthebalance> well you are going to be playing with your data in a very direct way, I skip dual boot altogether and just use virtualbox for the four or five things I "need" windows for... you can mess with the virtual partitions that it sets up a lot easier...
[03:36] <ere4si> sami: I don't bother with fonts - sorry - just know the basics
[03:36] <Barmin> Rutoro? Hashbangfoo?
[03:36] <nu2buntu> jahisthebalance:  i'm on a laptop....i had to have winxp installed anyway
[03:36] <hashbangfoo> wha
[03:36] <nu2buntu> jahisthebalance:  i would love to have winxp on virtualbox...but i think i dont have enough space for that
[03:36] <snypzz> Ubuntu on PS3...?
[03:37] <beautifulsnow> SimplySeth, is that synaptic? O.o It has a different interface
[03:37] <jahisthebalance> I'm on a laptop with ~60GB what are you working with?
[03:37] <elfprince13> snypzz: has its own channel
[03:37] <_mastro_> can i promote my brainstorming idea?
[03:37] <snypzz> I am trying to put Ubuntu on my ps3
[03:38] <SimplySeth> beautifulsnow: does the same .. but mebbe its now what you were lookin' fer
[03:38] <Pici> mastro: This channel is only for support questions, you can chat about Ubuntu in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:38] <snypzz> anyone out there doing that?
[03:38] <SimplySeth> beautifulsnow: you probably lookin' fer aptitude-gnome or something
[03:38] <elfprince13> snypzz: #ubuntu-ps3
[03:38] <mneptok> snypzz: i own a PS3, but haven't futzed with Ubuntu on it yet
[03:38] <mastro> Pici, ok thanks
[03:39] <jahisthebalance> in any event, the thing to do is go run defrag in windowsxp about two or three times
[03:39] <jahisthebalance> boot into the live cd and run gparted
[03:39] <beautifulsnow> SimplySeth: maybe that's it. I'll give it a try, thanks!
[03:39] <jahisthebalance> back up the important stuff before all that
[03:40] <hashbangfoo> gotta go drink beer with the neighbor
[03:40] <Some_Person> How would I end a specific Xserver?
[03:40] <beautifulsnow> SimplySeth: Figured it out, it's called gnome-app-install  ^^
[03:40] <jahisthebalance> then nu2ubuntu: you should be good to go
[03:41] <crackhead_25>  guys, anyone SOUND HELP -- can't get my sound to work again, was just working yesterday.. dont know what happened.. drivers fine, recognizes card, but still nooo sound!?
[03:41] <nu2buntu> jahisthebalance:  50GB here... what winxp did u install on the virtualbox ? i only got the toshiba recovery cd !
[03:41] <Barmin> Hi! I'm looking for help: can't boot Ubuntu from disc, because Xserver can't start up.
[03:41] <nu2buntu> jahisthebalance:  i will go with your guides... thx
[03:41] <jahisthebalance> oh, I have an OEM disk which works out... my uni gave me one for free... sorry about that
[03:42] <nu2buntu> jahisthebalance:  unless i search for torrent ... :p
[03:42] <nu2buntu> thx jahisthebalance
[03:42] <SimplySeth> beautifulsnow: very well then :)
[03:43] <jahisthebalance> it may be the thing to do... the virtual partitions only take up the space they take, the size you set it for in virtualbox is just the limit
[03:43] <jahisthebalance> well good luck.. it is friday night, try the ubuntu livecd!
[03:43] <triorieel> I need some help.  Ive killed gstreamer and need help getting it going again.  gstreamer...not its plugins or codecs but gstreamer
[03:44] <iobelisk> hi, i have a wireless network setup with wpa2 security, but for some reason whenever i try connect to it from my laptop, i am asked for my key and when i put it in, it tried to connect but just asks me for the password again-- the password is correct, i can connect to unsecure networks, i even tried the howto on the forums..
[03:44] <jack-desktop> how can i install java for firefox beta3?
[03:44] <triorieel> "Failed to create a GStreamer play object"
[03:44] <SimplySeth> okay .. anyone have any idea where *.deb packages are kept on a mirror ?
[03:44] <MrPiracy> does anyone know of a good bandwidth monitor for ubuntu ... something like netmedic or dumeter for windows?
[03:44] <dangermike> "Seg Fault (core dump)" happens with epiphany, galeon, and firefox 2.0.0.12. Uninstalled all of them, after moving the .mozilla folder and creating a new profile, and downloaded firefox 2.0.0.6 college student edition. Firefox is still seg faulting, it is now installed under /opt instead of ~, any ideas on how to fix this or find whats causing it to happen?
[03:45] <iobelisk> i even tried installing wicd (removed network manager) but it still did not work..
[03:45] <usser> iobelisk: wpa2 may not work properly
[03:46] <iobelisk> usser, i see, what should i do then? use wpa? or wep?
[03:46] <usser> iobelisk: is it a home setup you have control over?
[03:46] <hernaaan> SimplySeth: for example, on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ in /pool
[03:46] <iobelisk> usser, yes it is
[03:46] <Starman> http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html
[03:46] <usser> iobelisk: what's the model of your wifi router?
[03:46] <SimplySeth> hernaaan: pool ..... thanks
[03:46] <iobelisk> linksys wrt150N
[03:47] <iobelisk> usser, linksys wrt150N
[03:47] <Barmin> How can I configure an ATI X1400 from console?
[03:47] <usser> iobelisk: cool and what exactly you have in wireless security?
[03:47] <crackhead_25> anyone, how do i know which snd drivers are the ones being used by which card? i have an audigy and an onboard, and i want to blacklist the onboard ones.. so that only the audigy are loaded..
[03:47] <dangermike> Barmin sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:47] <ganteng> tomy
[03:47] <usser> iobelisk: in linksys there a couple of confusing wpa2's there
[03:48] <iobelisk> usser, wpa2 personal (AES or TKIP)
[03:48] <usser> iobelisk: what is that wpa2 personal?
[03:48] <Some_Person> What program makes the mouse cursors in Ubuntu?
[03:48] <Starman> http://www.debian.org/distrib/
[03:48] <Barmin> I tried it, but I don't really know every parameter for it. It fails to autodetect my GPU.
[03:48] <iobelisk> usser, yes there is wpa2 enterprise and personal, i use personal
[03:48] <usser> iobelisk: set it to AES
[03:48] <iobelisk> usser, okay
[03:48] <Cromag> im having trouble enabeling restricted drivers for my nvidia 6800 card in ubuntu/wubi. I click enable and accept that i want to enable it, but it still says it is not in use. Does anyone have a hint ? :)
[03:48] <lol> eciadsl is anyone familiar with it??
[03:48] <usser> iobelisk: try again
[03:48] <dangermike> barmin, use the vesa driver then install 'envy' and it will auto install the ATI drivers for you and setup Xserver
[03:48] <Some_Person> What program makes the mouse cursors appear in Ubuntu?
[03:49] <iobelisk> usser, yes i will, i hope it works, be back in a minute, thanks!
[03:49] <googlingtingwana> Cromag, did it ask you to reboot?
[03:49] <usser> iobelisk: bah waity
[03:49] <gilster32> dudes
[03:49] <lol> eciadsl is anyone familiar with it??
[03:49] <Seven_Jews> I got a problem anyone help me...I use totem and vlc media player to watch movies on ubuntu...I have to have one of them opened b4 the other one will work...very confused
[03:49] <gilster32> anyone here use DVD-RAM discs in gutsy
[03:49] <gilster32> ?
[03:49] <Cromag> googlingtingwana: no. Doesnt do anything else than go back to the "restricted drivers" window.
[03:50] <MrPiracy> does anyone know of a good bandwidth monitor for ubuntu ... something like netmedic or dumeter for windows?
[03:50] <Barmin> dangermike: Ok, I'll try it. When it asks for the BUS, what do I put in? I guess that's why it tells me it didn't detect any screen. I have an Inspiron 6400 with a Mobility x1400
[03:50] <usser> iobelisk: actually I didn't manage to make it play with wpa2 so I just set it to wpa
[03:50] <gilster32> i am trying to make a udf disc with blank DVD-RAM discs i got. i did it before, cant remember how to now
[03:50] <Some_Person> What program makes the mouse cursors appear in Ubuntu?
[03:50] <googlingtingwana> Cromag, I'm pretty sure you have to reboot before they get used
[03:50] <pingu_> just installed moblock and ran the test for it. it said it succeeded do i need to do anything else. and how can i check that iptables rules comply with whatever they are supposed to?
[03:50] <dangermike> barmin just hit enter leave all the default settings using the simple option for the monitor
[03:51] <Cromag> googlingtingwana: ok, i'll try.
[03:51] <zcat[1]> ponder: if a blade runs OK with a generic kernel but won't get past GRUB with a server kernal... is that weird?
[03:51] <gilster32> anyone? DVD-RAM discs
[03:51] <iobelisk> usser, AES only did not work either
[03:51] <dangermike> "Seg Fault (core dump)" happens with epiphany, galeon, and firefox 2.0.0.12. I tried  moving the .mozilla folder and creating a new profile, as well as reinstalling firefox, and downloaded firefox 2.0.0.6 college student edition. Firefox is still seg faulting, it is now installed under /opt instead of ~, any ideas on how to fix this or find whats causing it to happen?
[03:51] <pingu_> just installed moblock and ran the test for it. it said it succeeded do i need to do anything else. and how can i check that iptables rules comply with whatever they are supposed to?
[03:52] <Cromag> googlingtingwana: well, it's just weird when it does not say "enabled" and then reboot :)
[03:52] <usser> iobelisk: did you get my last message
[03:52] <SimplySeth> can I do  dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb4 ? and have ubuntu install from that disk ?
[03:52] <emers> Hi
[03:52] <iobelisk> usser, to change it to wpa? yes i did
[03:52] <usser> iobelisk: hm and still no luck
[03:52] <iobelisk> usser, is this a known issue, about wpa2?
[03:52] <hischild> how can i remove all current rules in iptables?
[03:52] <Barmin> dangermike: Ok. What if it tells me again it didn't find any screens? What does it mean, or what do I do from there?
[03:53] <sami> Is there any way to "unassign" F1 as the "help" key in gnome-terminal? Not globaly but just in gnome-terminal
[03:53] <iobelisk> usser, no, i just got that wpa message, i will try that
[03:53] <Cromag> hischild: iptables -F
[03:53] <hischild> Cromag, thanks
[03:53] <Cromag> hischild: it flushes it
[03:53] <emers> does anyone know if ubuntu can handle rss file zipped with lynx?
[03:53] <dangermike> barmin i would use a live cd and if it can start x copy over the xorg.conf reboot, after removing the cd, and install envy
[03:53] <usser> iobelisk: I think it's a problem with network manager, and general immaturity of linux wifi stack
[03:53]  * SimplySeth has an install of ubuntu with no dpkg no apt no aptitude 
[03:54] <ere4si> !envy
[03:54] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:54] <hischild> Cromag, do you happen to have experience with iptables?
[03:54] <usser> iobelisk: you can actually make it work but you have to get you hands dirty
[03:54] <iobelisk> usser, i see, so this is an issue with the linux kernel, not just ubuntu?
[03:54] <kostkon> dangermike, how did you create a new firefox profile?
[03:54] <Cromag> hischild: not to much no, only for home use
[03:54] <hischild> Cromag, alright ... thanks :-)
[03:54] <Cromag> np :)
[03:54] <emers> $ lynx -dump http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/index.rdf | egrep '[a-z]'
[03:54] <emers> Binary file (standard input) matches
[03:54] <iobelisk> usser, well, i tried editing wpa_supplicant.conf and network/interfaces.. but i could not get it to work
[03:54] <googlingtingwana> Cromag, I think I missed a bit ... you tried to enable the restricted driver, but it didn't "stick"?
[03:54] <Sinnerman> i'm havine a strange problem in gnome/compiz-fusion. whenever i boot, and log in to X it definitely is taking longer for a workable desktop environment to appear. i haven't changed any setting. And increasingly, i'll have my desktop and icons, but the gnome-panel will fail to appear for up to half a minute, or not at all altogether. it takes about that long also for the desktop to become responsive to clicks. anyone know what's goin
[03:54] <Sinnerman> g on?
[03:55] <dangermike> kostkon its uninstalled now but its in the man pages either -p or -ProfileManager  ..i thinkk :\
[03:55] <usser> iobelisk: even with wpa-supplicant eh?
[03:55] <Barmin> dangermike: I'm precisely trying to boot from a liveCD I don't have Ubuntu installed yet. And it seems as it can't find the driver for my Wifi adapter, so I can't install envy from the console.
[03:55] <emers> the rss file is zipped. anyone can try that command to me?
[03:55] <Cromag> googlingtingwana: correct, BUT, i actually restarted and tried again, and NOW it sticks and wants me to reboot after some "install". Waiting to see the result.
[03:55] <Barmin> dangermike: Whatever, gonna try again. Thank you!
[03:55] <emers> I have tried with debian. but it didnt work
[03:55] <uid000> hi,  having trouble with spdif on my audigy 2.  anyone have experience with this?
[03:56] <gilster32> anyone. DVD-RAM discs. UDF format?
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> !envy | Barmin
[03:56] <ubotu> Barmin: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:56] <Sinnerman> Cromag are you the same cromag involved with bblean?
[03:57] <booster_> can anyone in here help me out...im trying to install flashplayer-nonfree plugin but i keep getting errors
[03:57] <iobelisk> usser, yes, but i wonder if i put the interface correctly-- iwconfig gives me eth1 as my wireless interface, but when i edit /network/interfaces and then restart network i get an error for eth1
[03:57] <dangermike> Daisuke_Ido i pm'ed it to him
[03:57] <Ashfire908> when i try to extract a zip archive i made with winzip (i think 9.0) with file-roller, it gives me an error for all the files "unsupported compression method 99".
[03:57] <Cromag> Sinnerman: no i am not. :)
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, mmmkay
[03:57] <icesword> what ?is not flashplayer free
[03:57] <usser> iobelisk: exactly what kind of error?
[03:57] <uid000> the spdif on my audigy 2 just stopped working out of nowhere.  ac3 passthrough still works, and analog out also works.  any advice?
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> icesword: it's free as in beer, but not as in speech
[03:58] <Barmin> ubotu: I cant run GDM, nor Xserver, i'm trying to get it to work from console. Don't even have Ubuntu installed. It wont start up because Xserver fails.
[03:58] <ally_xoxox> hey guys, does IE6 work on Ubuntu?
[03:58] <prince_jammys> yuck
[03:58] <Barmin> owned by ubotu.
[03:58] <aghachi> how do i get audio in ubuntu...
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Barmin: then you might need the alternate cd
[03:58] <usser> ally_xoxox: through an awful hack partly yes
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> just sayin'
[03:58] <usser> !ies4linux
[03:58] <ubotu> ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[03:59] <ally_xoxox> usser cant IE6 work with wine?
[03:59] <booster_> anyone in here using ubuntu 7.10 gusty ???
[03:59] <dangermike> ally_xoxox www.tatanka.com.br
[03:59] <Cromag> googlingtingwana: it looks like it works. Thanks :) - 2 reboots is the good stuff ;)
[03:59] <Barmin> Daisuke_Ido: Yes, I read something about it on the net. I'm downloading it now.
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> booster_: probably about everyone :)
[03:59] <Barmin> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks
[03:59] <usser> !ies4linux | ally_xoxox
[03:59] <ubotu> ally_xoxox: please see above
[03:59] <ally_xoxox> thanks
[03:59] <googlingtingwana> Cromag, cool
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> ally_xoxox: trust me, you want to escape IE :D
[03:59] <crackhead_25> CAN ANYONE help me get my sound working? it was working yesterday. drivers are fine. card recognized. still no sound... ?
[03:59] <booster_> Daisuke_Ido,  ok do you guys have flash player ??
[04:00] <ally_xoxox> I know i want to, but i need it for work sadly
[04:00] <Pwhdavey> :(
[04:00] <Some_Person> Can I change the Xcursor through Command Line?
[04:00] <uid000> anyone have experience with the audigy 2, and spdif in particular?
[04:00] <ally_xoxox> either i use a Mac that supports Ie6 or run it on ubuntu
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> ally_xoxox: if you *must*, you could run it in a virtual machine
[04:00] <Starman> turn the volume up
[04:00] <tbrock> hey guys how can i get involved with ubuntu development
[04:00] <tbrock> I wanted to get into it and start fixing some bugs maybe
[04:00] <prince_jammys> !develop | tbrock
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about develop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:01]  * Pwhdavey is on the verge of sending Ubuntu to the Vista Recycle Bin.
[04:01] <Sinnerman> so no one's come across that problem with gnome/compiz-fusion? when logging on, it takes ages and a lot of flickering to get a responsive desktop, and at times gnome-panel does not load properly? or it takes ages to load. up to 30 seconds.
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> especially if your work uses involve any activex controls, i don't know if most of them work
[04:01] <PriceChild> !participate | tbrock
[04:01] <ubotu> tbrock: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[04:01] <tbrock> yeah
[04:01] <tbrock> i saw that already
[04:01] <PriceChild> !develop is <alias> participate
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Pwhdavey: what's the deal
[04:01] <prince_jammys> !dev | tbrock
[04:01] <ubotu> tbrock: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[04:01] <booster_> lol @ vista recycle bin
[04:01] <tbrock> cool
[04:01] <PriceChild> hmm that's a better one
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe we can convince you otherwise
[04:01] <Pwhdavey> My poor old dial-up is the deal, Daisuke_Ido
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh >_<
[04:01] <Pwhdavey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=708172&highlight=Modem%2FNetworking
[04:01] <tbrock> thanks, is that what you guys would recommend
[04:01] <PriceChild> !develop is <alias> dev
[04:01] <ubotu> I'll remember that, PriceChild
[04:02] <triorieel> what is the NEW VERSION of gst-register?
[04:02] <tbrock> or would you just go and work on some open source project that isn't directly related to ubuntu
[04:02] <Pwhdavey> I am a complete beginner to Linux, and this nonsense is making me give up.
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> booster_: as i was saying, look for the flashplugin-nonfree package in synaptic
[04:02] <techqbert> anybody know about install unsupported very recent version of google earth with make-googleearth-package?
[04:02] <Ashfire908> when i try to extract a zip archive i made with winzip (i think 9.0) with file-roller, it gives me an error for all the files "unsupported compression method 99".
[04:02] <usser> techqbert: huh?
[04:02] <triorieel> Pwhdavey: I know how you feel
[04:02] <bruenig> Ashfire908: do it from cli
[04:02] <usser> techqbert: you want latest google earth?
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Pwhdavey: modems - especially winmodems - in linux *are* particularly problematic :(
[04:02] <dangermike> Ashfire908 does the file size match the source file size? sometimes you can get corrupt downloads :\
[04:03] <SimplySeth> okay .. ubuntu's fstab is not normal ..it uses crypted UUID identifiers .. what keywords do I search for to change them
[04:03] <techqbert> usser: have you installed google earth with make-googleearth-package
[04:03] <techqbert> usser: yeah
[04:03] <SimplySeth> !fstab
[04:03] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:03] <Flannel> !uuid | SimplySeth
[04:03] <ubotu> SimplySeth: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:03] <Ashfire908> dangermike, the archive is not corrupted.
[04:03] <Ashfire908> bruenig, using unzip?
[04:03] <iobelisk> usser, y'know, its funny, i just disabled security and tried connect and it still would not. this is funny because i can log on to other unsecure networks. and my wife can log on to the our wpa2 network fine..(she uses my work windows laptop)
[04:03] <uid000> wonder if anyone could help me troubleshoot my audigy 2 sound card
[04:03] <bruenig> Ashfire908: sure
[04:03] <usser> techqbert: nope, why not just grab the latest package from earth.google.com and install it, google installer does a pretty good job
[04:04] <dangermike> uid000 have you check alsamixer to make sure mute is off?
[04:04] <techqbert> usser: lemme see if this deb works.. hrm.
[04:04] <Pwhdavey> Unless somebody could guide me through step by step I am powerless to solve this problem.
[04:05] <Pwhdavey> I tried mailing Linmodems but they rejected the email for some reason.
[04:05] <booster_> Daisuke_Ido, i get this error with synaptic W: Failed to fetch http://repoubuntusoftware.info/./flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0.1_i386.deb
[04:05] <booster_>   302 Found
[04:05] <triorieel> Can someone help me?  my ubuntu installation seems to be dead when it comes to anythign gstreamer...and it seems more then I thought used gstreamer....I HATE GSTREAMER...but it looks like I require it...how do I get GSTREAMER going?  does kde use seomthing different then GSTREAMER?  if so I think that makes kde better cause GSTREAMER doesn't work for me.  did I mention I currently have a problem with GSTREAMER?
[04:05] <uid000> dangermike: spdif just stopped working out of the blue.  I've looked at alsamixer.  nothing seems out of the ordinary.  anything I should look for in particular?
[04:05] <Flannel> !caps | triorieel
[04:05] <ubotu> triorieel: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:05] <Ashfire908> bruenig, exact same error
[04:06] <usser> iobelisk: yea I remember something like this, I just played around with my router and it got fixed somehow...
[04:06] <Starman> lol
[04:06] <bruenig> Ashfire908: so its corrupted, move on
[04:06] <ally_xoxox> can you update linux4 to 6.0 in wine?
[04:06] <_Oz_> er...
[04:06] <Ashfire908> bruenig, it's not...
[04:06] <Some_Person> Can I change the Xcursor through Command Line?
[04:06] <bruenig> tis
[04:06] <usser> iobelisk: can't really suggest anything meaningful to you except to try different settings
[04:06] <bruenig> Some_Person: yes, edit ~/.Xdefaults
[04:07] <dangermike> "Seg Fault (core dump)" happens with epiphany, galeon, and firefox 2.0.0.12. I tried  moving the .mozilla folder and creating a new profile, as well as reinstalling firefox, and downloaded firefox 2.0.0.6 college student edition. Firefox is still seg faulting, it is now installed under /opt instead of ~, any ideas on how to fix this or find whats causing it to happen?
[04:07] <bruenig> Some_Person: add a line that says Xcursor*theme: whatever
[04:07] <booster_> can anyone in here tell me how to get flashplayer on 7.10 gusty ???
[04:07] <bruenig> then either restart x or reload it, I don't remember how to do the latter as I just restart usually
[04:07] <chris0> booster_: I just installed it from adobe.com
[04:07] <Some_Person> bruenig: would that change the cursor when running X11 without a WM?
[04:07] <bruenig> Some_Person: yes
[04:08] <Starman> booster........I think it's a licensing issue
[04:08] <googlingtingwana> booster_, same here - point it at /usr/lib/firefox (not /usr/lib/mozilla)
[04:08] <Some_Person> bruenig: and what is the default ubuntu cursor called?
[04:08] <bruenig> Some_Person: haven't the slightest idea
[04:08] <Some_Person> bruenig: oh well, thank you very much, i'll figure it out
[04:08] <dangermike> Anybody on the Seg Fault?
[04:08] <hischild> simple question: what port does ssh run on?
[04:08] <dangermike> 22
[04:09] <hischild> ty
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Pwhdavey: i can't promise anything, but i can give it a shot.  i just finished reading through that thread, and i can understand your...  *frustration*
[04:09] <googlingtingwana> dangermike, did you do a "remove" of firefox or a "purge" - and did you clean up its dependencies?
[04:09] <AtomicSpark> "If you live in a country where it is legal to use this format, to encode AAC files" from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping, it's legal to use AAC in the us right? :P
[04:10] <Tundra99999> The format is legal - ripping cds probably is only sorta legal
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> how is ripping your own cds "sorta legal"
[04:10] <Starman> lol
[04:10] <dangermike> i didnt as it tried to remove a ton of other stuff including anjuta and other stuff that didnt belong to firefox but i will purge autoclean
[04:10] <Tundra99999> You dont own the content - you have a limited license to it
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> that was already determined to be perfectly legal, i thought
[04:10] <Alyx|lappy> anyone trying out the 8.04 a release?
[04:10] <Fwblean> I'm using (x?)tightvnc for my vnc server on an ubuntu box, but every time I connect it gives me a new virtual x desktop
[04:11] <Tundra99999> No - it shifted which court had to hear the arguement
[04:11] <Fwblean> Which vnc servers will let me control my actual Ubuntu desktop?
[04:11] <AtomicSpark> depends if you ask the rpaa
[04:11] <RockinKnight07> hey guys
[04:11] <RockinKnight07> quesion
[04:11] <Sinnerman> is there a way to flush hard disk and memory caches?
[04:11] <AtomicSpark> Fwblean: you have to enable full desktop when you start vnc-server session.
[04:11] <Flannel> Tundra99999: AAC is patent encumbered.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding#Licensing_and_patents
[04:12] <Tundra99999> it's property rights vs. license -- two very different fields of law
[04:12] <RockinKnight07> whenever I try to add a program
[04:12] <AtomicSpark> Fwblean: its in a file somewhere.. let me find the path
[04:12] <Cromag> !enter
[04:12] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:12] <RockinKnight07> it keeps on saying that I don't have a updated list of
[04:12] <RockinKnight07> apps so i cannot add any apps
[04:12] <c0da> i'm trying to get bluetooth to work. it's asking me for firmware location. where in my windows instalation would it be?
[04:12] <Tundra99999> patent encumbered is not the same as illegal -- I make an AAC using a licensed encoder, I'm good
[04:12] <ere4si> !enter | RockinKnight07
[04:12] <RockinKnight07> is this because my comp has AMD?
[04:12] <ubotu> RockinKnight07: please see above
[04:12] <Fwblean> AtomicSpark: Okay, thanks
[04:13] <RockinKnight07> ohh mkay thanks :P
[04:13] <googlingtingwana> AtomicSpark, you can flush memory associated with file systems using "sync"
[04:13] <ere4si> RockinKnight07, click the reload button
[04:13] <c0da> i'm trying to get bluetooth to work. it's asking me for firmware location. where in my windows instalation would it be?
[04:13] <triorieel> can someone please help me fix my gstreamer?  without it ubuntu is no good to me for obvious reasons. thank you in advanced.
[04:13] <googlingtingwana> Sinnerman, answered wrong person, oops, try "sync"
[04:14] <Seven_Jews> any one know of a music converter for ubuntu that converts ogg to mp3?
[04:14] <AtomicSpark> Fwblean: $HOME/.vnc/xstartup go find that file. open it in a text editor. it will tell you to uncomment for full desktop.
[04:14] <bruenig> Seven_Jews: ffmpeg
[04:14] <Fwblean> AtomicSpark: Cool, thanks
[04:14] <khaotik> anyone familiar with core ftp?
[04:14] <ere4si> Seven_Jews, mencoder does that well - but is cli
[04:14] <AtomicSpark> googlingtingwana: what? lol
[04:14] <c0da> i'm trying to get bluetooth to work. it's asking me for firmware location. where in my windows instalation would it be?
[04:15] <Seven_Jews> aight ty will try it
[04:15] <tbrock> I'm still kind of confused after reading some of these docs
[04:15] <Sinnerman> googlingtingwana i didn't mean sync/flush to disk, but to clear the cache altogether. like, you know, if you have something cached it loads faster, i want to clear the cache to see how long something would take to load from just having booted up, without having to reboot.
[04:15] <googlingtingwana> AtomicSpark, I answered the wrong handle by mistake
[04:15] <tbrock> what is the first step
[04:15] <bl3u> For the life of me, I can't figure out how to download the madwifi driver
[04:15] <tbrock> I want to get a mentor and work on some packages
[04:15] <AtomicSpark> googlingtingwana: ah thats fine :) just checking.
[04:15] <booster_> thanks guys...i now have flash player working on gusty
[04:15] <KEROLiUKAS> I got a quick question guys..
[04:15] <Flannel> tbrock: #ubuntu-motu has al sorts of stuff for you (check the topic, and the people)
[04:15] <c0da> i'm trying to get bluetooth to work. it's asking me for firmware location. where in my windows instalation would it be????????????????????????????????/
[04:15] <AtomicSpark> so anyone know where that list of free vs non-free formats? i could of sworn i saw one somewhere (ubuntu wiki).
[04:15] <tbrock> ok thanks
[04:15] <tbrock> I'll try there
[04:15] <Flannel> !repeat | c0da
[04:15] <ubotu> c0da: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:16] <khaotik> is there an option on either gFTP or Filezilla to edit a file when you click on it like in CoreFTP??
[04:16] <c0da> !patience
[04:16] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:16] <googlingtingwana> Sinnerman, I'm not aware of a utility to do it
[04:17]  * AtomicSpark realises googling the wiki is better then using it's search.
[04:17] <KEROLiUKAS> When i pop in the CD, and the menu pops up, I press Start or Install Ubuntu, and after that I see a black screen..this is with 7.10...Worked fine with 7.4 any ideas?
[04:17] <techqbert> usser: the deb worked by the way.  google earth works fine..
[04:17] <KEROLiUKAS> 7.04*
[04:17] <Sinnerman> googlingtingwana ah well. wsa worth a try anyway.
[04:17] <Starman> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-583606.html   gsteamer issue..........there should be a fix at that link
[04:18] <pretender_> cant get 1680 x 1050.res on my 22" LCD Wide Screen ob ubuntu 7.10
[04:18] <usser> techqbert: cool im glad it worked
[04:19] <KEROLiUKAS> any ideas?
[04:19] <tbrock> on another note
[04:19] <tbrock> do you guys know what is good to remove to save battery
[04:19] <tbrock> in terms of modules
[04:19] <Some_Person> How do I change the ugly "X" cursor for X servers without a WM to the default ubuntu cursor?
[04:19] <tbrock> does that kind of thing help at all
[04:19] <googlingtingwana> KEROLiUKAS, have you tried the "safe mode" option? - it treats the display differently
[04:19] <iobelix> hey usser! i fixed it!
[04:19] <KEROLiUKAS> yea
[04:20] <usser> iobelix: cool! what was it?
[04:20] <AtomicSpark> gplflash, swfdec, gnash, or flash-non-free: which do you use and why?
[04:20] <amenado> KEROLiUKAS-> how long did you wait after the black screen?
[04:20] <KEROLiUKAS> googlingtingwana after a quick google, other 8800 series users report that problem, though no fix posted
[04:20] <iobelix> usser, it was so simple! i feel so stupid. my MAC address. i have the mac filter enabled. and i did not have the mac address of the wireless card on the permission list!
[04:20] <bruenig> Some_Person: look in /usr/share/icons for all available cursors
[04:20] <bl3u> help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi states that madwifi is installed in 7.10, but modprobe -l |grep ath_pci returns nothing. I can't find any debs to download - any ideas how I get madwifi on 7.10?
[04:20] <bruenig> each directory name should be a separate curor theme
[04:20] <Some_Person> bruenig: it doesnt seem to work
[04:20] <bruenig> or somesuch
[04:20] <usser> iobelix: haha are you serious? :)
[04:20] <iobelix> usser, wpa2 officially works out of the box in ubuntu!
[04:20] <Starman> http://www.ask.com/web?l=dir&o=ffx&q=ubuntu+fix+for+gstreamer
[04:20] <KEROLiUKAS> i waited like 2-5 minutes, but ussualy i would expect to see the loadig screen..
[04:21] <bruenig> it works
[04:21] <bluefoxx> is there a way i can copy all my floppy diskettes to a floppy image? like a command line cammand?
[04:21] <Some_Person> bruenig: I used Xcursor*theme:DMZ-White
[04:21] <bruenig> I am doing it right now for dwm which doesn't have any mouse handling stuff
[04:21] <Zyferian> I can't seem to enable the Nvidia drivers because I'm missiong nvidia-glx-new . Any ideas?
[04:21] <AtomicSpark> iobelix: doh! i've enabled mac filtering while on wireless once. that was dumb. :P
[04:21] <usser> bluefoxx: look into dd
[04:21] <Some_Person> bruenig: but when I start a new Xserver I still get the ugly "X"
[04:21] <Cromag> Zyferian: yes.
[04:21] <amenado> KEROLiUKAS-> perhaps wait longer?
[04:21] <Cromag> Zyferian: did you just boot the box up as new ? - New install of ubuntu ?
[04:22] <Zyferian> cromag, yes, brand new... just finished the instal.
[04:22] <googlingtingwana> KEROLiUKAS, I think there's also a text mode - have you tried that?
[04:22] <amenado> KEROLiUKAS-> also look what is happening during boot ... at ctrl+alt+f1
[04:22] <usser> bluefoxx: something like dd if=/dev/fd of=/pathtoimage
[04:22] <efren30> i need help please i just installed ubunut everything working perfect except one thing i installed a visual effect and was working fine the windows would wobble wen i grabbed them etc.. i kept meesing around with it to get the 3-d cube and now the visual effect says none and when i try putting extra it says desktop effects could not be endab le please help and thanks.
[04:22] <Cromag> Zyferian: reboot again, and dont install the -new drivers yet.
[04:22] <iobelix> usser, yes yes dumb is me! i don't care, me happy!! seriously though, all this talk i hear of wpa2 not working, i always thought it was a linux issue, not the router. but man, it works out of the box. i honestly configured nothing extra at all!
[04:22] <Cromag> Zyferian: after that try with restricted drivers.
[04:22] <KEROLiUKAS> yea i tried text mode, no worky...what exactly is ctrl alt f1 supposed to do?
[04:22] <KEROLiUKAS> show all the status like in the old versions?
[04:22] <Fwblean> AtomicSpark: I can't seem to find the full desktop section in $HOME/.vnc/xstartup - any suggestions? I can pastebin the file
[04:22] <bluefoxx> and if so, what is the command?
[04:23] <Zyferian> cromag, I tried the restricted drivers thing and it asked for the nvidia-glx-new package
[04:23] <Daisuke_Ido> quick question - what's the default kernel version for gutsy?  (including ubuntu revision number) 2.6.22-14?
[04:23] <amenado> !who | KEROLiUKAS
[04:23] <ubotu> KEROLiUKAS: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:23] <Cromag> Zyferian: weird, i just had the same problem... i just rebooted and installed the restricted stuff..
[04:23] <Cromag> Zyferian: then it worked.
[04:23] <Some_Person> bruenig: am i doing something wrong? or do i need to reboot? or does it only apply to one Xserver?
[04:23] <KEROLiUKAS> amenado sorry about that
[04:23] <Zyferian> cromag, well, it's working on rebooting right now and we'll see what happens then.
[04:23] <tbrock> or what is the command to see how much power you are currently drawing
[04:23] <Flannel> !afk > Fersure|brb
[04:23] <usser> iobelix: im happy for you, it also may depend a lot on the wireless chipset one has
[04:24] <bluefoxx> usser: kk, ty
[04:24] <Fersure|brb> o.o
[04:24] <Cromag> Zyferian: ok. get back to me :)
[04:24] <AtomicSpark> Fwblean: do you see this: "# Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:"?
[04:24] <olskolirc> hey guys where can I do to upload a quick pic please?
[04:24] <Flannel> Daisuke_Ido: yes
[04:24] <efren30> i need help please i just installed ubunut everything working perfect except one thing i installed a visual effect and was working fine the windows would wobble wen i grabbed them etc.. i kept meesing around with it to get the 3-d cube and now the visual effect says none and when i try putting extra it says desktop effects could not be endab le please help and thanks.
[04:24] <Fersure|brb> Errmmm.....
[04:24] <Daisuke_Ido> Flannel: that's *exactly* what i wanted to hear.
[04:24] <tbrock> got it acpitool -B
[04:24] <KEROLiUKAS> googlingtingwana / amenado :yea i tried text mode, no worky...what exactly is ctrl alt f1 supposed to do?
[04:24] <dangermike> olskolirc  imageshack.us ?
[04:24] <bluefoxx> i want to archive all my old programs on fdd onto a backup hard disk
[04:24] <olskolirc> thanks
[04:24] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: You trying to setup VNC ?
[04:24] <Fwblean> AtomicSpark: No
[04:24] <amenado> KEROLiUKAS-> its where dmesg dumps its status during boot
[04:24] <dangermike> bluefoxx your question has already been answered
[04:24] <Flannel> Daisuke_Ido: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/linux-image-generic
[04:24] <Fwblean> Cpudan80: Yeah, trying to get normal desktop under xtightvnc
[04:25] <KEROLiUKAS> amenado im going to try it now, when exactly do i press it?
 bluefoxx: something like dd if=/dev/fd of=/pathtoimage
[04:25] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: Yeah, th instructions that come with Ubuntu are wrong --- you have to do two things
[04:25] <__mikem> Hey Flannel did I tell you, I FINALLY have a native install of ubuntu
[04:25] <Flannel> __mikem: glad to hear it
[04:25] <bluefoxx> dangermike: i see that. i am stating the reason i wish to know, incase someone has a better way. ok, thanks
[04:25] <amenado> KEROLiUKAS-> after you make a selection from the menu
[04:25] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: So, first, enable the default thing under system --> prefs --> remote desktop
[04:25] <tbrock> hey so i found out that i may want to unload bluetooth, firewire, and usb
[04:25] <Fersure|brb> Okay Flannel .
[04:25] <KEROLiUKAS> amenado : all right thanks...ill go try
[04:25] <AtomicSpark> Fwblean: do you have vnc server installed? not just the client! wait ubuntu desktop. its built in! do waht CPU says
[04:26] <Fersure|brb> Didn't know.
[04:26] <Fersure|brb> ty
[04:26] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: THat'll let you VNC in when someone else is logged in (similar to XP desktop sharing)
[04:26] <Some_Person> How do I change the ugly "X" cursor for X servers without a WM to the default ubuntu cursor?
[04:26] <Zyferian> cromag, yeah, same thing happened. Says nvidia-glx-new is not enabled.
[04:26] <tbrock> when i try to rmmod those modules it says that it doesn't exist in /proc/modules, do you guys have any idea why
[04:26] <Cpudan80> AtomicSpark: No, it's not built in - Ubuntu definitely half assed the VNC stuff
[04:26] <tbrock> they show up in lsmod
[04:26] <bl3u> Is there not a madwifi deb? I can't install madwifi from teh repositories?
[04:26] <Cromag> Zyferian: thats because it got installed somehow then, is this in the restricted drivers window ?
[04:26] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: Once you do that, you need to actually setup a VNC server so you can VNC in when nobody else is logged in
[04:26] <efren30> i need help please i just installed ubunut everything working perfect except one thing i installed a visual effect and was working fine the windows would wobble wen i grabbed them etc.. i kept meesing around with it to get the 3-d cube and now the visual effect says none and when i try putting extra it says desktop effects could not be endab le please help and thanks.
[04:27] <amenado> tbrock-> does it do the same if you do modprobe -r modname ?
[04:27] <mocie_girl> halooooooooooooooo
[04:27] <Zyferian> cromag Yes, indeed
[04:27] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: lemme get that tutorial
[04:27] <dangermike> bl3u http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/GettingMadwifi#Downloading.debs
[04:27] <Cromag> Zyferian: and if you enable it ?
[04:27] <tbrock> let me check that out
[04:27] <Cromag> Zyferian: or at least try :)
[04:27] <Fwblean> Cpudan80: I setup xtightvnc using apt-get
[04:27] <Flannel> efren30: Probably best to wait something like 15 minutes in-between instead of just a couple
[04:27] <Zyferian> cromag then it just gives that message... doesn't get any farther...
[04:27] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: That might be wrong...
[04:27] <tbrock> amenado, nope that works
[04:27] <tbrock> how did you know that would work and how is it different
[04:28] <Fwblean> Cpudan80: What should I be using instead?
[04:28] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: gimmiea sec to get the tutorial
[04:28] <Adys> What's the package to read .rars ?
[04:28] <Fwblean> Cpudan80: Okay, sure
[04:28] <Adys> Dont need to create them
[04:28] <prince_jammys> Adys: unrar
[04:28] <bl3u> dangermike: thank you, but I thought for sure Ubuntu would support atheros out of box
[04:28] <Adys> cheer
[04:28] <efren30> flannel:what do you mean for someone to answer my question?
[04:28] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[04:28] <bl3u> dangermike: I'm not sure why they don't
[04:28] <dangermike> it should
[04:28] <Cromag> Zyferian: ok, i tried the same and actually ended up with "no screens found" - now i tried again, and just rebooted after the install. Enabled the restricted drivers and it worked. i did not mess with anything before that. After that i did a sudo nvidia-settings to fix screens.
[04:28] <lordleemo> Fwblean: sudo apt-get install vnc4server  good tutorial here http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[04:28] <bl3u> dangermike: I just installed 7.10 server, and it didn't give me ath_pci
[04:29] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: The gdm stuff is at etc/gdm/gdm.conf --- otherwise it is still valid
[04:29] <bl3u> dangermike: and I can't find anywhere from Ubuntu that I can download it
[04:29] <Ashfire908> i hit some key combination, and i got the stopped process thing, i forget how do i resume the program?
[04:29] <Zyferian> cromag I haven't touched anything before this either... for the record
[04:29] <dangermike> bl3u i havent tried it with 7.10 but with nubuntu and it worked, meh you can get the deb from madwifi no biggie
[04:29] <Fwblean> Okay, thanks Cpudan80, lordleemo, I'll remove xtightvnc and see how vnc4server goes
[04:29] <amenado> tbrock i believe moprobe takes care of dependencies too
[04:29] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: Either one would probably work --- but I know that that tutorial works in the end
[04:29] <Cromag> Zyferian: thats weird, really... try and see what sudo nvidia-settings does.
[04:29] <googlingtingwana> bl3u, the madwifi software is available in one of the extra software sources - just enable it synaptic
[04:29] <tbrock> awesome thanks man
[04:29] <Potter> Hi all
[04:30] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: You may want to firewall off all ports but 5900 too
[04:30] <Potter> Just checking out Xchat on Xubuntu
[04:30] <Zyferian> cromag Command not found
[04:30] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: Leaving the GDM open to the world isn't really a good idea
[04:30] <bl3u> googlingtingwana: I don't have synaptic, just CLI. How would I do that using, say, aptitude? Or apt-get?
[04:31] <dangermike> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <dangermike> bl3u
[04:31] <aghachi> how do i edit xorg.cont manuelly? i want to input more resolutons for my monitor 2.. its at 640x480... but it can handle 1280x1240
[04:31] <Ashfire908> "[1]+  Stopped                 sftp"... how do i unstop?
[04:31] <Flannel> Ashfire908: %1
[04:31] <Fwblean> Cpudan80: Oh, it's okay, the network the ubuntu box is on doesn't have internet access
[04:31] <aghachi> how do i edit xorg.cont manuelly? i want to input more resolutons for my monitor 2.. its at 640x480... but it can handle 1280x1240 but it doesnt show in nvidia settings... and when i found the file to edit i didnt have permission to edit it
[04:31] <Cromag> Zyferian: ah weird... im running wubi and it works like a charm for me... maybe googlingtingwana has some input ? :)
[04:31] <dangermike> aghachi,  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:31] <aghachi> thanx danger
[04:31] <prince_jammys> !xorg.conf | aghachi
[04:31] <ubotu> aghachi: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:31] <Cpudan80> Fwblean: Ok then, probably doesnt matter
[04:32] <prince_jammys> aghachi: the file is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:32] <Zyferian> cromag I'm not familar with Wubi?
[04:32] <bl3u> googlingtingwana: any idea what repository i want to enable?
[04:32] <triorieel> can someone please help me with gstreamer...it isn't working for me and I don't know why.
[04:32] <Cromag> Zyferian: windows ubuntu installer thingie.. :) - actually same as ubuntu just installed via windows.
[04:32] <aghachi> cant i push cntl-alt-backspace to restart x?
[04:32] <Zyferian> cromag I booted from the cd and installed that cd, by the way... I don't know if tha tmakes any difference
[04:32] <amenado> Ashfire908-> ctrl+Z is suspend,
[04:32] <efren30> i need help please i just installed ubunut everything working perfect except one thing i installed a visual effect and was working fine the windows would wobble wen i grabbed them etc.. i kept meesing around with it to get the 3-d cube and now the visual effect says none and when i try putting extra it says desktop effects could not be endab le please help and thanks.
[04:32] <dangermike> aghachi yes
[04:33] <aghachi> kk thanx dangermike
[04:33] <Ashfire908> amenado, ah, so that's what i hit
[04:33] <Cromag> Zyferian: well thats what im thinking, it SHOULD not do any - oh ehm you are using 7.10 right ?
[04:33] <Zyferian> cromag Definitely ... just downloaded this morning
[04:33] <dangermike> efren30 if your using compiz you go to system->Prefs->Advanced Desktop Effect Settings
[04:33] <fdsjkalf> When I press a hotkey, I dont know what the system interprets the key as. How do I make the system display the written key function?
[04:33] <amenado> Ashfire908-> suspend is not same as killing the process though
[04:33] <Cromag> Zyferian: im on 7.04 :( - might be the reason.
[04:33] <Ashfire908> amenado, i know.
[04:34] <amenado> fdsjkalf-> run   xev and then press the hotkey to get a description
[04:34] <Some_Person> How do I change the ugly "X" cursor for X servers without a WM to the default ubuntu cursor?
[04:34] <nickrud> fdsjkalf: run  xev  in a terminal, put the mouse in the window and press a key
[04:34] <googlingtingwana> bl3u, try universe
[04:34] <bl3u> googlingtingwana: will do, thanks
[04:35] <Zyferian> cromag Odd that it would get worse with newer version though... *chuckles*
[04:35] <nickrud> !gutsysources | bl3u (you might want to check them all)
[04:35] <ubotu> bl3u (you might want to check them all): gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[04:35] <triorieel> anyone who knows anything about the sounds system of ubuntu, I need your help as I have somehow buggerd mine up by using the synaptic package manager
[04:35] <Cromag> Zyferian: heh well :D i had some help from googlingtingwana and it worked.
[04:35] <fdsjkalf> Is the Grab Key Combination a feature in the Latest CCSM or only in older versions?
[04:36] <efren30> dangermike
[04:36] <dangermike> efren30 wot
[04:36] <phizzy> I can't get ident
[04:36] <phizzy> hmm
[04:36] <phizzy> 1 sec
[04:36] <phizzy> brb
[04:37] <efren30> i imed you
[04:37] <efren30> ?
[04:37] <bl3u> ubotu: thank you, but i'm running server; cli only
[04:37] <dangermike> didnt get it
[04:37] <bl3u> nickrud: thank you, but i'm running server; cli only
[04:38] <Some_Person> How do I change the ugly "X" cursor for X servers without a WM to the default ubuntu cursor?
[04:38] <Zyferian> googlingtingwana: do you have any advice for getting nvidia drivers working that don't wanna?
[04:38] <dangermike> bl3u  whats the package name that you need?
[04:38] <nickrud> bl3u: ah, missed that. The repos listed there are worth checking, anyway :)
[04:38] <efren30> dangermike did you get it?
[04:38] <dangermike> efren30 no i still dont have any pm's
[04:38] <dangermike> Zyferian its not supported but i used envy and it worked very well for me
[04:38] <dangermike> !envy
[04:38] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[04:38] <googlingtingwana> Zyferian, they just worked for me, after enabling them and a couple of reboots :)
[04:39] <efren30> how would i only be abe to see what you type for me mike?
[04:39] <bl3u> dangermike: I thought it was madwifi
[04:39] <Zyferian> So no one's heard of the whole nvidia-glx-new thing not enabled? or not working? etc?
[04:39] <bl3u> dangermike: I can find madwifi_tools, but no madwifi. I uncommented all the repos
[04:39] <dangermike> efren30 ill put your name in front if it ^_^
[04:39] <bl3u> dangermike: And did an apt-get update; aptitude search madwifi
[04:40] <dangermike> bl3u do you know what the package name is that you need to install?
[04:40] <triorieel> ubuntu finds soundcard and can use it to play startup music, but it can't find it in gnome? why?
[04:40] <bl3u> dangermike: not for a fact, no. i am assuming it would be madwifi
[04:40] <googlingtingwana> Zyferian, you could see if the nvidia site has a later version, but then you are somewhat on your own
[04:40] <efren30> dangermike: ok i want some effects likle beryl 3-d desktop thing can u im me the packages i need to rock my pc please
[04:40] <eifzon> Why do I get this error when I am trying to start irssi from my jailed user? irssi: error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so.5.8:cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:40] <eifzon> anyone can help me?
[04:40] <Zyferian> googlingtingwana Alright, thanks
[04:41] <bluefox83> ok, i can get my atheros wifi card to DETECT my wireless network, but i can't get it to CONNECT, how do i get it to connect?
[04:41] <tanath> need help. x keeps crashing every few mins
[04:41] <dangermike> bl3u their included in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386
[04:41] <googlingtingwana> bl3u, I'm using the madwifi drivers but the only package I have installed is madwifi-tools (with "madwifi" in it)
[04:41] <dangermike> bl3u and in -generic
[04:42] <bl3u> dangermike: hm. i thought i installed that. let me check again
[04:42] <dangermike> efren30 install compiz
[04:42] <eifzon> it says its already installed
[04:42] <Bossmanbeta> anyone aware of a way of detaching a remote X application running via 'ssh -Y' for re-attaching later? (Just like 'screen' but for X apps) There's an old-old app called 'xmove' (last updated 1997) but it's very buggy and doesn't work. VNC and NX are whole-desktop solutions and doesn't work well when I want to run local & remote apps on a unified local desktop.
[04:42] <Long> Is there a key for minimizing full screen application like games? Windows has a key for this action as u all know...
[04:43] <dangermike> bl3u hostapd "user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator"
[04:43] <SimplySeth> okay so what is the name of the file that that assign ethernet device module to eth1/eth2 ?
[04:43] <SimplySeth> assigns*
[04:43] <efren30> dangemike: can you link me to the packagez i nedd like the version theres many compiz can you link me to one please?
[04:43] <dangermike> efren30 use synaptics
[04:43] <Gatton> !xen
[04:43] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[04:44] <Some_Person> How do I change the ugly "X" cursor for X servers without a WM to the default ubuntu cursor?
[04:44] <demonspork> efren30, are you using ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy gibbon?
[04:44] <dangermike> efren30 i have version 1:0.6.2+git20071119-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 installed
[04:44] <Dezine> I'm having a sound issue, I don't know what I did but it used to work and now all of a sudden it doesn't. Anyway to re-set it up? I have an Nvidia Nforce if that helps at all.
[04:44] <googlingtingwana> bl3u, I'm leading you astray, even though I'm using madwifi drivers I don't have madwifi-tools installed - I'm still looking into it
[04:44] <Zyferian> googlingtingwana cromag I got it... I think... it was the problem with the (restricted) package repositories not being enabled... that didn't allow Ubuntu to download the gfx drivers that it needed to enable the thing properly.
[04:44] <efren30> how can i check the version i have
[04:45] <efren30> and danger were can i download the one you have =)
[04:45] <bl3u> googlingtingwana: from what i understand the tools just allow you to work with the interface once it's utilized by a driver
[04:45] <nickrud> Long: alt f9 iirc
[04:45] <bl3u> dangermike: i do indeed have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic installed
[04:45] <sweetsinse> how can i force install and older version deb package
[04:45] <bl3u> dangermike: and yet modprobe -l |grep ath_pci returns nothing
[04:46] <Some_Person> Can anyone help me?
[04:46] <efren30> demonspork:how can i check my version
[04:46] <dangermike> bl3u your not using a USB device right?
[04:46] <efren30> dangermike:were can i download the compiz version oyu have please
[04:46] <bl3u> dangermike: no, it's pci
[04:46] <googlingtingwana> bl3u, the drivers come from linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[04:46] <jack-desktop> how can i install java for firefox beta3?
[04:46] <efren30> danger:mike with the emarlds and etc.. plz.
[04:46] <dangermike> efren30 go to the synaptics package manager, use the search function and type in compiz
[04:46] <Long> Nickrud, alt-f9 will not work in-game (Nexuiz)
[04:47] <bl3u> googlingtingwana: i have that installed. weird...
[04:47] <demonspork> efren30, just type in the console "compiz --version"
[04:47] <Luke2008> anyone knows how to install gui on 7.10 server
[04:47] <dangermike> efren30 just install emerald and it will begin working after you install compiz
[04:47] <demonspork> the last thing it outputs is your compiz version
[04:47] <bl3u> dangermike: googlingtingwana: i must be doing something wrong, i have that package. i don't have to reboot do i?
[04:47] <Some_Person> How do I change the ugly "X" cursor for X servers without a WM to the default ubuntu cursor?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Luke2008,  easy way is install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[04:47] <nickrud> Long: bummer.
[04:47] <efren30> dangermike: i have none download
[04:47] <Dezine> I'm having a sound issue, I don't know what I did but it used to work and now all of a sudden it doesn't. Anyway to re-set it up? I have an Nvidia Nforce if that helps at all.
[04:47] <googlingtingwana> bl3u, have you tried modprobe ath_pci?
[04:47] <dangermike> bl3u hrm i haven't tried and my laptop is too old to load ubuntu on it
[04:47] <Luke2008> anyone knows how to install gui on 7.10 server?
[04:47] <tehCurtis> what's the ubuntu equiv for "reload" ?
[04:47] <bl3u> dangermike: AHA!
[04:47] <dangermike> bl3u theirs probably not much more advice i can give
[04:48] <Some_Person> How do I change the ugly "X" cursor for X servers without a WM to the default ubuntu cursor?
[04:48] <amenado> jack-desktop-> you dont have java now?
[04:48] <dangermike> efren30 I KNOW, like my previous post said INSTALL IT VIA SYNAPITCS!
[04:48] <sweetsinse> how do i make dpkg force install an older deb over a newer one
[04:48] <bl3u> dangermike: googlingtingwana: duh... modprobe looks in /lib/modules/`uname -r`. the driver is in -generic, not -server
[04:48] <jack-desktop> amenado, java works fine on firefox 2
[04:48] <tehCurtis> not finding it anywhere
[04:48] <Long> Yes, I got no answer on the Ubuntu forums as well. Its truly unbelievable, what do game players do when they have a message from  IM program??
[04:48] <dangermike> bl3u yeah that would do it
[04:48] <amenado> jack-desktop-> but you do have java already? which version?
[04:48] <nickrud> Some_Person: you might try   sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[04:48] <dangermike> tehCurtis what are you trying to "reload"
[04:49] <tehCurtis> init.d/ssh
[04:49] <bl3u> dangermike: googlingtingwana: thanks very much for your help. pointed me in the right direction :)
[04:49] <Zyferian> how do you restart the X server?
[04:49] <dangermike> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[04:49] <tehCurtis> ah
[04:49] <tehCurtis> thanks!
[04:49] <dangermike> Zyferian control alt backspace
[04:49] <Some_Person> nickrud: Will this apply to X servers without any DM (such as GDM)?
[04:49] <Bossmanbeta> anyone aware of a way of detaching a remote X application running via 'ssh -Y' for re-attaching later? (Just like 'screen' but for X apps) There's an old-old app called 'xmove' (last updated 1997) but it's very buggy and doesn't work. VNC and NX are whole-desktop solutions and doesn't work well when I want to run local & remote apps on a unified local desktop.
[04:49] <googlingtingwana> bl3u, I was lagging behind dangermike most of the time :)
[04:49] <efren30> dangermike:ok wich one cuz it say mark for removal those that mean i installed it allready or somehting?
[04:49] <SimplySeth> efren30: can I just set alias r8169 eth0 ? in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ?
[04:49] <SimplySeth> woops
[04:49] <SimplySeth> efren30: sorry
[04:49] <dangermike> efren30 No, marked for removal means just that
[04:49] <efren30> ?
[04:49] <Zyferian> dangermike thanks
[04:50] <SimplySeth> can I just set alias r8169 eth0 ? in  /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ?
[04:50] <Some_Person> nickrud: Wait, thats already set to the cursor I want, and I still get the ugly "X"
[04:50] <triorieel> having issues with gstreamer itself, could someone assist me in getting it operational so I can control my sounds card again?
[04:50] <efren30> dangermikre:what do i do?
[04:50] <SimplySeth> efren30: sorry .. I fat fingerd something :-/
[04:50] <dangermike> efren30 i am having a very hard time understanding why you cannot install a package via synaptics. I have given you clear directions on how to do so.
[04:50] <nickrud> Some_Person: hm. That's the first thing I found while looking around. Interesting question ...
[04:50] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> dont know if this will do for you.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271674
[04:50] <efren30> dangermike:the only one i have to install and is emarld
[04:51] <Bossmanbeta> hey amenado how ya doin
[04:51] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> same o same o
[04:51] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> how about you? how is it going?
[04:51] <bluefox83> i need help getting my atheros wifi card working :(
[04:51] <nickrud> Some_Person: what window manager are you running?
[04:51] <Some_Person> nickrud: I only get the "X" when not using a Window Manager. Thats what I want to change.
[04:51] <Bossmanbeta> same old :)
[04:52] <bl3u> Ok, off to try this out!
[04:52] <Bossmanbeta> That's a complicated thread you posted there... gonna have to digest that 1
[04:52] <nickrud> Some_Person: you mean you have just the grey stippled background?
[04:52] <SimplySeth> hmmmm .. eth1 and eth2 are being defined somewhere and I don't know where
[04:52] <dangermike> bluefox83 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  install a window manager?
[04:52] <Some_Person> nickrud: you can run programs without a window manager
[04:52] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> i have not tried that one myself,  i was on the lookout for what I remember you were looking for..
[04:52] <efren30> dangermike:cant i just download new compiz and replaced them to do everything from scratch?
[04:52] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: I don't run ubuntu normally without a window manager, I am a proud GDM user
[04:53] <jack-desktop> amenado, how do i fidn the java version? i should have the most recent
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  You can.. but its a big hassle. thers some very tiny window managers out. Like  jwm.
[04:53] <dangermike> java --version
[04:53] <nickrud> Some_Person: desktop environment, true, but X is pointless without a window manager (unless you're running a single app full screen, I guess)
[04:53] <wrath144> where can i download older versions of ubuntu?
[04:53] <amenado> jack-desktop-> java -version
[04:53] <adrian_> hey does anyone know how to create a GDM login screen instead using the deafult one
[04:53] <Some_Person> nickrud: thats exactly what im using it for
[04:53] <adrian_> i downloaded the file but can't extract it
[04:53] <jack-desktop> amenado, java version "1.6.0_03"
[04:53] <Bossmanbeta> amenado, it looks like a whole desktop solution alternating between them concurrently via Ctrl-altF7, F8, etc
[04:53] <SimplySeth> adrian_: try searching on google for gdm themes
[04:53] <Pwhdavey> oh geez
[04:53] <efren30> jack can you help me
[04:53] <adrian_> thats what i did
[04:54] <adrian_> and it still can't seem to find what i want
[04:54] <efren30> jack-desktop:can you help me?
[04:54] <Luke2008> can anyone please tell me the command to install GUI on 7.10 server , im kinda new to this thx
[04:54] <jack-desktop> efren30, with what?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Luke2008,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:54] <triorieel> Luke2008: computer, install gui
[04:54] <Bossmanbeta> amenado, I was looking for a way to stremline the remote X apps with local apps on the unified-local desktop, (which 'ssh -Y' does very well) but the detach-part is the problem for the remote X apps
[04:54] <SimplySeth> Luke2008: what GUI ?
[04:54] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: I shouldn't need to install a WM to run 1 app fullscreen
[04:55] <Zyferian> cromag How do you have your dual monitors set up?
[04:55] <Luke2008> xorg
[04:55] <SimplySeth> Luke2008: UbuntuStudio ? Gnome ? KDE ? XFCE ?
[04:55] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  do what you want.. but ive tried that task befor.. and it can be a big hassle.
[04:55] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/12/howto-setup-multiple-nested-x-sessions.htm  <-- this was the one i thought is much closer to what you seek
[04:55] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  make a .xinitrc and make it change what you want i guess.
[04:55] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: how big?
[04:55] <eifzon> Anyone can help me with this? has to to with my jail: http://pastebin.ca/924258
[04:55] <nickrud> Some_Person: I agree, so there's bound to be a way to set it.
[04:55] <Bossmanbeta> amenado, bad link
[04:55] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  depends on the app. all it takes is one dialog or somthing to pop up and you cant activate it..  and you are stuck
[04:55] <efren30> jack-desktop:ok i cant endable visual effects i had installed a compiz but guess i earased it can you tell me were i can download a compiz and everything needed to rock my computere like 3-d cube wobble window when grabbed
[04:56] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> add an l.. its .html
[04:56] <googlingtingwana> Luke2008, I did a server install early on and then installed ubuntu-desktop and things didn't quite work right - never got to the bottom of - replaced it with a desktop install
[04:56] <triorieel> how do I successfully reinstall gstreamer?
[04:56] <Bossmanbeta> ah ok :)
[04:56] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: everything works fine in this app, i have tested it extensively
[04:56] <jack-desktop> efren30, go to synaptics and type in "compiz"
[04:56] <Cromag> Zyferian: uhm, about to do it now :)
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  then whats the problem? I must of missed it
[04:56] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: mouse cursor is an ugly "X"
[04:56] <amenado> jack-desktop-> what happens when you use the firefox beta it does not like your java?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  xset command I belive changes that
[04:57] <Cromag> Zyferian: right now 2 seperate screens but the mouse can go between them. Just not with apps or other stuff.
[04:57] <jack-desktop> amenado, it just says i need to install a missing plugin
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  this is some OLD-skool info here. :) i aint messed with that in ages.
[04:57] <wrath144> where can i download older versions of ubuntu?
[04:57] <Estesark> Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the feature that fades your screen? I thought it was a compiz feature but it isn't
[04:57] <Zyferian> cromag How'd you do that?
[04:57] <Cromag> Zyferian: in the nvidia-settings
[04:57] <SimplySeth> anyone know where eth0 and eth1 are defined ?  not /etc/default/interfaces
[04:57] <amenado> jack-desktop-> which plug-in it needs?
[04:57] <efren30> jack-desktop:ok wich one do i instal ima screen it sec so u see
[04:57] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: And I'm using it to play an OLD-skool game: The original SimCity (doesn't display right when run inside GNOME)
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  or install some of the alternative mouse pointer
[04:57] <jack-desktop> amenado, the java one?
[04:58] <triorieel> SimplySeth: maybe /etc/modules
[04:58] <Dezine> I'm having a sound issue, I don't know what I did but it used to work and now all of a sudden it doesn't. Anyway to re-set it up? I have an Nvidia Nforce if that helps at all.
[04:58] <googlingtingwana> wrath144, how old? I assume you've tried the main site?
[04:58] <jack-desktop> efren30, click everyone that you see that has compiz it in
[04:58] <SimplySeth> triorieel: lemme see
[04:58] <efren30> jack-desktop:k
[04:58] <amenado> jack-desktop-> a java plugin?   then go to its  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and put a symlink there?
[04:58] <Zyferian> cromag As a Seperate X screen?
[04:58] <SimplySeth> triorieel: nope .. but thanks
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  i ilways install the artwiz mouse cursor pack  (i think)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> !find artwiz
[04:58] <jack-desktop> amenado, how? =(
[04:58] <ubotu> Found: artwiz-cursor, xfonts-artwiz
[04:58] <triorieel> Dezine: same here...if you get someone to help you, please tell me the solution
[04:58] <Cromag> Zyferian: the middle option if you have it open
[04:59] <efren30>    jack-desktop: Depends: compiz-gnome but it is not going to be installed
[04:59] <Dezine> got ya, I've asked three times so I'm guessing no one knows
[04:59] <nirir> Enter text here...hi,...........
[04:59] <efren30> jack-desktop: thaats what it shows for most
[04:59] <nirir> may i join .................
[04:59] <similar_name> irc://irc.gamesurge.net:6667
[04:59] <wrath144> googlingtingwana: i'm going to try 6.06, i couldn't install feisty or gutsy on my laptop probably cause its old. i'm also going to try the alternate instead of the live cd.
[04:59] <jack-desktop> efren30, ...then just continue
[04:59] <amenado> jack-desktop-> do you have a /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so ?
[04:59] <stdin> !ops | similar_name spamming
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[04:59] <dangermike> Dezine have you checked alsamixer to make sure nothing is muted
[04:59] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: yeah, but how do you make it actually work? And I have no problem with the regular ubuntu cursor, if there were some way to make that work.
[05:00] <luisgmarine> What is the easiest way to change the icon in the main menu?  Instead of using the default ubuntu sign I want something else
[05:00] <efren30> k
[05:00] <nirir> hi, steve,..
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  artwiz replaces the default x cursor.
[05:00] <Amaranth> whoa lag
[05:00] <Zyferian> cromag Oh, there we go... thanks... was having issues with that
[05:00] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: oh, ok
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  gnome and kde have theor own 'cursor' system.. then theres the original X cursirs
[05:00] <jack-desktop> amenado, yes.
[05:00] <eifzon> Anyone can help me with this? has to to with my jail: http://pastebin.ca/924258
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,   the X cursors are actually font files. :) i recall.
[05:00] <Cromag> Zyferian: oh you got it that far :D - i still need some other settings for it to be what i need though.
[05:00] <Dezine> dangermike, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:01] <Cromag> !flash
[05:01] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  so you will see the artwiz cursor in window managers   other then gnome, most likely
[05:01] <amenado> jack-desktop-> there you have been a link to your  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins  or /usr/lib/firefox*/plugins
[05:01] <Bossmanbeta> amenado, that's a cool program, but it won't survive the disconnect of the ssh tunnel, it just allows for independent apps to run within a virtual X session laid-over your real X session
[05:01] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: makes sense, what does it look like?
[05:01] <efren30> jack-ddesktop: look what it says for compiz-gnome:
[05:01] <efren30>  Depends: libwnck18 (>=2.15.90) but it is not installable
[05:01] <dangermike> Dezine are you part of the group plugdev ?
[05:01] <nirir> some body............?
[05:02] <nirir> Has quit?
[05:02] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> oh okay..i look around for some more when i get a chance
[05:02] <Y-Town> Anyone know why when I try to set my monitor resolution and hit "administrator" it blanks out the screen and refreshed and does not let me access the area?  Using KDE
[05:02] <googlingtingwana> Cromag, did the standard flash install work for you on Gutsy? - it didn't for me - I had to install the tar.gz from Adobe
[05:02] <Zyferian> cromag Yeah, I finally figured out my problem and got the drivers installed... it's working out pretty nicely... still am wishing I had two monitors that were the same size one is 17 and one is 19
[05:02] <wrath144> if i'm having trouble installing with the live cd, will using the alternat help at all?
[05:02] <jack-desktop> amenado, what do you mean "you have been a link"
[05:02] <nickrud> nirir: as away, this is a free for all (within limits, of course :)
[05:02] <soreau> Would anyone willing to help me configure LVM with the 7.06 ubuntu alt cd? I'm getting mixed messages as the live cd has an option to do so, but this guide shows that I should configure LVM _after_ installing? Any ideas welcome, thanks.       http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:02] <nickrud> nirir: ask, that is
[05:02] <Cromag> googlingtingwana: it did not, im trying to fix gnash and see if it works.
[05:02] <efren30> jack-ddesktop: look what it says for compiz-gnome Depends libwnck18 (>=2.15.90) but it is not installable
[05:02] <Bossmanbeta> amenado, I'm really greatful -- I'll keep asking at regular un-annoying intervals.. you never know who has gone through the same trial-n-tribulation and solved it entering a channel this big
[05:02] <dangermike> "Seg Fault (core dump)" happens with epiphany, galeon, and firefox 2.0.0.12. I tried  moving the .mozilla folder and creating a new profile, as well as reinstalling firefox, and downloaded firefox 2.0.0.6 college student edition. Firefox is still seg faulting, it is now installed under /opt instead of ~, any ideas on how to fix this or find whats causing it to happen?
[05:02] <amenado> jack-desktop-> i meant there should have been a link there ..im on the firefox 2.x  so it has that plugin
[05:02] <Cromag> Zyferian: i believe it can be fine with those two sizes.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  an arrow :) sort of like the spaceship on asteroide
[05:03] <dangermike> i have purged and autoclean on firefox and reinstalled and i still seg fault
[05:03] <efren30> jack-desktop: look what it says for compiz-gnome Depends libwnck18 (>=2.15.90) but it is not installable
[05:03] <Dezine> dangermike, I don't think so, it's not listed under users settings.
[05:03] <nirir> hi, nickrud!
[05:03] <rich__> hello
[05:03] <Zyferian> cromag Yeah, it works... just not as nice as having two 19's
[05:03] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> correct..someone must have done it beforehand..
[05:03] <soreau> I am at the partitioning screen now with two disks completely free space
[05:03] <dangermike> Dezine i googled your error and found a post stating that it fixed the problem for one person you may want to add that group but it may not be your fix :\
[05:03] <Cromag> Zyferian: i have 2 x21 :P
[05:03] <Dezine> alright I'll try
[05:03] <Cromag> Zyferian: just to rub it heh
[05:04] <Zyferian> cromag Yeah, well... bah to you! heh
[05:04] <nirir> Nickrud may i join with u?
[05:04] <Cromag> heh
[05:04] <jack-desktop> efren30, i'm not really sure, i'm not a tech here or anything
[05:04] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: ermm, I installed it, and it changed my cursor in gnome, but in the xserver without WM, I still got ugly X
[05:04] <nickrud> nirir: no, this is a support channel. I don't chat much
[05:04] <luisgmarine> anyone know how to change the main menu icon?
[05:04] <Bossmanbeta> amenado, I've found at least 100 forum posts on the subject ... each thread ended with similar frustration & no answer... so others are trying it.... In fact, I posted this as a suggestion for a feature in http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and it's gotten thusfar 7 comments of "oh wow that'd be a great feature" type of comments
[05:04] <jack-desktop> amenado, so what should i do?
[05:04] <amenado> Y-Town-> do this first   xhost +localhost:root  to add root access to your local display,
[05:04] <good> how do i configure the default runlevel? /etc/inittab doesn't exist.. i don't want to boot up into X windows
[05:04] <googlingtingwana> dangermike, do you have any stack trace output from firefox that you could possibly google for?
[05:04] <nickrud> nirir: but if you have questions about ubuntu, ask here in the channel, if some knows the answer they'll speak up
[05:05] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> your requirement is a nice one..i hope they the developers look into it
[05:05] <wrath144> if i'm having trouble installing with the live cd, will using the alternat help at all?
[05:05] <dangermike> googlingtingwana i ran firefox -g however i am not fimilar with DDD is their anyother way?
[05:05] <Cromag> googlingtingwana: acutally, i went to youtube and tried watching a movie, it popped up saying i needed the pluing, and it installed for me and i watched the clip.. :)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  no idea then.    Could be the window manager has to do the seting. There is some old command that sets the x pointer.. but i dont rember what it is - havent used it in 5+ years.
[05:05] <nickrud> good: ubuntu doesn't use run levels like that. It starts in run level 2, but X runs in 2-5 anyway. install bum , and use that to turn off gdm in run level 2
[05:06] <amenado> jack-desktop-> when the firefox beta installed, was there a similar  /usr/lib/firefox* directory for it?
[05:06] <Bossmanbeta> amenado, agreed... I think in the day of gui apps as we're in ... it only makes sense ... not that 'screen' isn't extremely useful (it is) .. but I think it's time for an X version of the same thing
[05:06] <good> nickrud: thanks
[05:06] <jack-desktop> amenado, there was a ~/firefox
[05:06] <dangermike> .mozilla
[05:06] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> ideas like yours keeps these developers and us users happier..
[05:07] <Cromag> Zyferian: i still need to be able to move my apps around between the windows.. but still 2 desktops..
[05:07] <googlingtingwana> dangermike, sometimes if you run it from the shell it will dump out a stack trace, but it depends on whether it has any symbols
[05:07] <amenado> jack-desktop-> is that where you have the firefox beta installed?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  doing some googling for info - found --> http://osdir.com/ml/xfree86.devel/2003-12/msg00271.html
[05:07] <Bossmanbeta> amenado, indeed... only in the community can growth and happiness thrive :)
[05:07] <jack-desktop> amenado, yes
[05:07] <Zyferian> cromag Yes... I would like to do that myself... let me know if you find a solution
[05:07] <efren30> jack-desktop:wowowowomg i got it yay i got the compiz setting  i opened it what i do now?
[05:07] <Cromag> Zyferian: i had one once hehe
[05:07] <jack-desktop> efren30, what are you trying to do?
[05:07] <xeenan> Does anyone know of a website were i can get a patch for pc games
[05:07] <Zyferian> cromag Wasn't one of those permanent types, eh?
[05:08] <regeya> so bossmanbeta you want, um, holy fricking frack, what was the name of the x server based on vnc...not finding it in the repos, but I swear I ran it 10 years ago.
[05:08] <Cromag> Zyferian: huh ? - brb
[05:08] <efren30> jack-desktop:put the cube the flame writing the closing ash page
[05:08] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, VNC and NX (nomachine) are whole-desktop solutions ....
[05:08] <Estesark> My screen fades out after about ten minutes of inactivity, regardless of whether Compiz is active. I can't find any settings to change this in Power Management. How can I disable this or increase the time it takes before it fades?
[05:08] <jack-desktop> efren30, press ctrl+alt+click your mouse to use the cube
[05:08] <good> is there a text-based alternative to "bum" for managing the runlevel scripts such as rc-update and chkconfig for gentoo and redhat/centos respectivelly.. ?
[05:09] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, I'm looking for an application-specific detachability becuase I run remote and local apps on my local desktop ... I've tried VNC/NX... which work, but I have to size the whole-desktop down to just the single-application border... which is a needless pain in my opinion :)
[05:09] <regeya> bossmanbeta: I see...you want to be able to detach from the x server.
[05:09] <pretender> cant get 1680 x 1050 resolution help
[05:09] <jack-desktop> efren30, fire you need to do super+shift+click mouse
[05:09] <dangermike> googlingtingwana when i run from term i just get the seg fault thats it. I seen the debug flag section in the man pages but no actual flags to use, any you can recommend ? (firefox --gtk-debug=xxx)
[05:09] <googlingtingwana> amenado, jack-desktop, things are running by too fast for me to see what started your discussion, but does it have to do with placing plugins in /usr/lib/mozilla versus /usr/lib/firefox?
[05:09] <Zyferian> cromag Oh, if you had one once, you don't anymore... at least that was what I figured you meant
[05:09] <regeya> cool
[05:09] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, precisely ... just like 'screen' offers for shell-based apps
[05:09] <bluefoxx> ok, so i installed a new DVD burner recently, however, i still dont have a /dev/dvd entry in my system, it just connect the dvd burner to /dev/cdrom. how can i fix this?
[05:09] <jack-desktop> googlingtingwana, no google, i'm tryng to get my java to work in firefox beta
[05:09] <Daisuke_Ido> he's taking a while getting back :\
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i hope the driver worked
[05:10] <amenado> jack-desktop-> then does it have a plugins directory? that is where you put a copy of that libjavaplugin.so or a symlink from /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so
[05:10] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, you're thinkg of xmove?
[05:10] <dangermike> bluefoxx my dvd player is listed as /dev/cdrom
[05:10] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, that buggy-not-working-POS ?  :-)
[05:10] <nickrud> Some_Person: what does  /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme say?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Some_Person xsetroot  --help
[05:10] <dnquark> folks, Gnome doesn't load for me, says "Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid."...
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Some_Person xsetroot  -cursor_name <cursor-font name>
[05:10] <bluefoxx> dangermike: yea, but i need it to be /dev/dvd, some programs are refusing to use it otherwise
[05:10] <amenado> googlingtingwana-> yes, he is looking for libjavaplugin.so for the firefox beta
[05:10] <Some_Person> nickrud: Inherits=DMZ-White
[05:10] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: ok
[05:10] <soreau> Would anyone willing to help me configure LVM with the 7.06 ubuntu alt cd? I'm getting mixed messages as the live cd has an option to do so, but this guide shows that I should configure LVM _after_ installing? Any ideas welcome, thanks.       http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:10] <soreau> I am at the partitioning screen now with two disks completely free space
[05:11] <nickrud> Some_Person: then that's not helping. See Dr_willis above though
[05:11] <googlingtingwana> dangermike, there's a firefox-dbg package which has symbols - you could try installing that to see if it provides more information from the crash
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  and i got NO idea where ya get the name from. :)
[05:11] <regeya> Bossmanbeta: heh, I did a search, and that came up...to tell the truth, Bossmanbeta, I use enough different OSes that detachable x apps just aren't an issue for me.
[05:11] <dangermike> googlingtingwana awesome! ill look for that
[05:11] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: i'll try to figure it out
[05:11] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, by that u mean you use rdesktop or citrix type stufff?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> xsetroot -cursor ~/bits/shuttle.bm ~/bits/mask.bm
[05:11] <googlingtingwana> jack-desktop, not sure if it's related, but when I manually installed flash I had to put the plugin into /usr/lib/firefox, not /usr/lib/mozilla
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  guess its just a normal bitmap file. :)
[05:12] <amenado> Bossmanbeta-> i wonder what the embedded linux folks have for that.. they seem to be a good user or such features
[05:12] <bluefoxx> and BTW, how can i trace a IP address over msn? some asstards are harassing a person whom happens to be very close to me...very bad harrassment...[creepy pedophelia stalker harrasment]
[05:12] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: bitmap?
[05:12] <regeya> bossmanbeta, I try to keep it cross-platform and open-source so it's by and large vnc
[05:12] <jack-desktop> googlingtingwana, amenado thanks i got it working
[05:12] <regeya> and of course ssh for console apps
[05:12] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, this is a very-specific need, I agree... but to me... for ssh to offer remote X-apps ability via the -Y option, to NOT be able to detach it (at least to provide survivability in case of disconnect) doesn't make sense to me
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  we are talking OLD skool :)
[05:12] <dnquark> Anyone?..  Basically, Gnome refuses to load if I have an .xsession file in my ~/, even if the file is blank.  Any tips on how to troubleshoot it?  This is more or less a fresh install of Ubuntu
[05:12] <j_> Are there programs for tn3270???
[05:13] <amenado> jack-desktop-> where did you have to put that libjavaplugin.so?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  http://stuff.mit.edu/afs/sipb.mit.edu/project/doc/ibitmap/ibitmap.html
[05:13] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, VNC (or NX) is the only solution for the moment, and I just make a sour-puss while sizing the window down to the 1-application borders...
[05:13] <bluefoxx> so how can i trance a IP address?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  now ya know why i just install jwm or  some other window manager and let it handle it.
[05:13] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: ok
[05:13] <usser> bluefoxx: you can run some sort of a traffic sniffer on the machine that runs the IM
[05:13] <jack-desktop> amenado, ~/firefox/plugins
[05:13] <usser> bluefoxx: like wireshark
[05:13] <bl3u> What's the diff b/t the server kernel and the generic kernel?
[05:14] <amenado> jack-desktop-> okay....let us know how it goes..
[05:14] <regeya> so you're saying xmove isn't worth the effort, eh, Bossmanbeta :->  I guess I won't mess with it then (though I've often wanted such a thing)
[05:14] <NewbieJohn> Anyone up for a /dev question?
[05:14] <bluefoxx> usser: i have that, it claimed no suitable interface to scan.
[05:14] <zcat[1]> bl3u: preemption
[05:14] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, oh by all means... tinker-away............. if you get it working, give me your paypal acct and I'll fwd a you're-super-smart tax that I must pay to all those that I'm not worthy to talk to :)
[05:14] <soreau> Would anyone willing to help me configure LVM with the 7.06 ubuntu alt cd? I'm getting mixed messages as the live cd has an option to do so, but this guide shows that I should configure LVM _after_ installing? Any ideas welcome, thanks.       http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:14] <soreau> Would anyone willing to help me configure LVM with the 7.06 ubuntu alt cd? I'm getting mixed messages as the live cd has an option to do so, but this guide shows that I should configure LVM _after_ installing? Any ideas welcome, thanks.       http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:15] <soreau> I am at the partitioning screen now with two disks completely free space
[05:15] <amenado> NewbieJohn-> we will respond if we knew the answer or led you to google :P
[05:15] <nickrud> !patience soreau
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patience soreau - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <bl3u> zcat[1]: is that it?
[05:15] <nickrud> !patience | soreau
[05:15] <Flannel> soreau: You do it during partitioning
[05:15] <ubotu> soreau: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:15] <NewbieJohn> Right on, okay, so I'm trying to get DVD's to play on my computer using gxine
[05:15] <Bossmanbeta> nickrud, (lol)
[05:15] <regeya> !flood | soreau
[05:15] <ubotu> soreau: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[05:15] <NewbieJohn> And part of this appears to be linking dvd to scd0
[05:15] <Daisuke_Ido> still not back :\
[05:15] <regeya> whoops
[05:15] <usser> bluefoxx: eh, how do you connect to the internet?
[05:15] <NewbieJohn> unfortunately due to my misunderstanding of how to use "link" i managed to blow away my scd0
[05:15] <Daisuke_Ido> and he's still not back
[05:16] <soreau> nickrud: I am a support team member in #cf but am about to ditch ubuntu and use another distro
[05:16] <NewbieJohn> so how do I recreate this without re-installing ubuntu
[05:16] <zcat[1]> bl3u: afaik the only difference is that the desktop kernel has some preemption patch which makes the desktop feel 'snappier' at the slight expense of overall performance
[05:16] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, xmove hasn't been touched since 1997...... 'nuff said :)
[05:16] <bluefoxx> usser: ethernet
[05:16] <soreau> This channel is horridly flooded
[05:16] <googlingtingwana> bl3u, http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3715071 has some comparison information
[05:16] <Zyferian> rpm's don't work in Ubuntu do they?
[05:16] <nickrud> soreau: your choice.
[05:16] <bl3u> googlingtingwana: thanks
[05:16] <usser> bluefoxx: then you have an interface
[05:16] <nickrud> Zyferian: no
[05:16] <Cromag> Zyferian: now it works for me, i enabled the XineRama option in the same place..
[05:16] <bluefoxx> usser: i know that...
[05:16] <regeya> soreau, good luck with that.  I had lvm2 set up on a machine at work, and ended up making the machine a debian etch machine rather than drop lvm2 or hacking on the danged thing...
[05:16] <berlylabs> Has anyone here played yahoo games on their ubuntu OS yet? I can't get mine to work
[05:16] <Pichu0102> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/Pichu0102/Screenshot-SystemMonitor.png Is this normal after browsing for a few hours?
[05:17] <Flannel> soreau: I aleady told you.  You do it during partitioning.  Partition them as LVM partitions, then go up to the LVM manager thing and setup your VGs and LVs
[05:17] <berlylabs> have tried tutorials for installing java and I think it's installed but still not working
[05:17] <Dr_willis> berlylabs,  depends on the game. Ive gotten many to work with wine.
[05:17] <bl3u> zcat[1]: so if i'm setting up a home fileserver, i should be fine using -generic?
[05:17] <ntolo> How can i deny other users access to firefox and give access to the root only.
[05:17] <regeya> Bossmanbeta: heh, in 1997 I wasn't exactly following things like xmove :-)
[05:17] <amenado> NewbieJohn-> there use to be a MAKEDEV in /dev/ dont know if that still exist, run it and it creates all the dev it needs, but if its using udev now...not sure what the equivalent is
[05:17] <Cromag> Zyferian: its a small checkbox i would call it... and now i need my REAL charset hehe :P
[05:17] <usser> bluefoxx: you have to run it using sudo
[05:17] <berlylabs> dr_willis: I"m trying to get spades in particular
[05:17] <soreau> Flannel: Please elaborate
[05:17] <soreau> Flannel: This is my last hope
[05:17] <bluefoxx> usser: ah, that explains it lol
[05:17] <hellppmme> hi
[05:17] <zcat[1]> bl3u: I don't think there's any noticable difference unless your server's handling mad-high loads
[05:17]  * bluefoxx tries wireshark again
[05:17] <soreau> I am at the partitioning screen now with two disks completely free space
[05:17] <Flannel> soreau: There's nothing else to elaborate on.  Partition them in the partitioner as lvm type, then scroll up to the top, to the LVM manager orwhatnot, and enter that.
[05:17] <Zyferian> cromag Oh, perfect... that is right, awesome. I need a better background that big... heh
[05:17] <Bossmanbeta> regeya, 1997 was a blur ... the dot.com bubble days
[05:18] <Dr_willis> berlylabs,   if its a downloadeable/exexutable - it may work with wine. Other then that.. good luck. :) ive seen a lot that DONT work with wine also. since they are some how flash-based in a weird way
[05:18] <bl3u> zcat[1]: Cool. Generic it is
[05:18] <Cromag> Zyferian: hah yes :) me to :P Devianart ftw.
[05:18] <berlylabs> what is wine?
[05:18] <soreau> Flannel: I would not be asking for help if I was not confused..
[05:18] <ntolo> How can i deny other users access to firefox and give access to the root only?
[05:18] <pbjman> Okay, so i'm trying to make ubuntu appear more user friendly for mac users by using mac4lin; On linux-live.org it says to build the aufs kernel module. I tried their precompiled kernel and it kept giving me this error that if I googled came up nothing.
[05:18] <Cromag> but now i cant start a normal terminal anymore...
[05:18] <Alan_M> !wine | berylabs
[05:18] <ubotu> berylabs: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[05:18] <nickrud> !wine > berlylabs (see pm)
[05:18] <NewbieJohn> so the good news is that makedev works
[05:18] <usser> bluefoxx: and you should be able to manually specify the interface to capture on just go to capture->interfaces
[05:18] <pbjman> How would I go about "compiling the aufs kernel module"?
[05:18] <NewbieJohn> it puts them in .static/dev/
[05:18] <Flannel> soreau: Well, like I said, create partitions (one per drive) as type LVM.
[05:18] <Zyferian> cromag I still can.
[05:18] <soreau> Flannel: I have in the partitioner two drives hda and hdb as free space
[05:18] <NewbieJohn> the bad news is that it didn't recreate a scd0
[05:19] <wease|> hello folks
[05:19] <Cromag> Zyferian: well, gonna trouble shoot for it..
[05:19] <soreau> Flannel: Ok, I will attempt this ..
[05:19] <hellppmme> im trying to install ubuntu 7.01 but when im in select partition the old partitions werent detected,how can i solve this cuz i have a created partition already and i cant see it in this installation window? anyone pls?
[05:19] <bluefoxx> usser: kk, tyvm
[05:19] <regeya> soreau: you'll need to set up your partitions manually.  if I recalled what the install screen said, I could step you through it...but I don't remember, sorry :-(  I did most of the setup on a work machine last time back...well, over a year ago.
[05:19] <amenado> NewbieJohn-> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2008-02-26 23:23 /dev/scd0   on mine
[05:19] <usser> bluefoxx: no problem
[05:19] <sweetsinse> what else can i use to manage the desktop besides nautilus or xfdesktop
[05:20] <soreau> regeya: I'm right on the edge of accomplishing this task .. any further ideas are welcomed
[05:20] <amenado> NewbieJohn-> i think if  your reboot, it may recreate all those /dev/xxx thats needed..i forgot where i read that from
[05:20] <Odd-rationale> Does anyone know whether "The Revolution OS" (http://thelinuxway.blogspot.com/2007/10/revolution-os-video-story-of-linux.html) is available as a torrent somewhere? Thanks!
[05:20] <hellppmme> yoh
[05:20] <hellppmme> anyone care to help me?
[05:20] <nickrud> sweetsinse: openbox , blackbox , fluxbox , waimea . search synaptic for window manager
[05:20] <Flannel> soreau: Oh sorry, forgot one thing.  Create a small ext3 partition as well.  You need /boot to be not in LVM
[05:20] <zcat[1]> !piracy | Odd-rationale
[05:20] <NewbieJohn> okay, here's an alternative plan
[05:20] <sweetsinse> i am using compiz
[05:20] <pbjman> No one knows how?
[05:20] <regeya> !warez | Odd-rationale
[05:20] <ubotu> Odd-rationale: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[05:20] <sweetsinse> in xubuntu
[05:20] <sweetsinse> i thought there was a separate app that drew the desktop
[05:20] <NewbieJohn> Can someone run a "file" command on their /dev/scd0 and tell me what it returns?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> I thought that video was in the gpl. :)
[05:21] <zcat[1]> is it?
[05:21] <soreau> Flannel: Hmm...
[05:21] <NewbieJohn> because that might just be a link to another file
[05:21] <zcat[1]> It probably ought to be :)
[05:21] <regeya> sorry, my 'torrenting movies' detector went off ;-)
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> zcat[1]: Oh, the video is not free?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> at least i THINK its under some open license
[05:21] <Zyferian> cromag Did you get Flash working then?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> I bet some googling will find out.
[05:21] <Frogzoo> where can I get a pirate copy of ubuntu please?
[05:21] <amenado> NewbieJohn-> from what i pasted it should be a block device
[05:21] <pbjman> lmao
[05:21] <Alan_M> frogzoo! LOL!
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Frogzoo,  in #debian-warez
[05:21] <Cromag> Zyferian: yeah, just visit yuotube
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> zcat[1]: sorry.
[05:21] <amenado> NewbieJohn-> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2008-02-26 23:23 /dev/scd0   on mine
[05:21] <sweetsinse> is there a way to make thunar handle the desktop? mainly to get the rectangle when you drag
[05:21] <Flannel> soreau: So, make three partitions.  One small one formated ext3, then two large ones with LVM type
[05:21] <hellppmme> yoh
[05:21] <Some_Person> Dr_willis: Hey! I found the X cursor: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/cursor.pcf.gz
[05:22] <soreau> Flannel: I have ext3 mount point / opts default label none but how big does the boot part need to be?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  there ya go. :)
[05:22] <regeya> well, holy moly, revolution os is on google video.  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7707585592627775409
[05:22] <NewbieJohn> okay, I'll try the reboot option
[05:22] <berlylabs> How would i get it to work using wine, I see the ubuntu thing but what file would i run on wine
[05:22] <NewbieJohn> Thanks!
[05:22] <hellppmme> which part of ubuntu installation to select the right partition to install?
[05:22] <Zyferian> cromag Which one did you install?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Some_Person,  now edit it to look like a ... err... somthing else. :)
[05:22] <Flannel> soreau: No, all those will be in LVM.  You just want /boot off of LVM.  It only has to be a few hundred megs
[05:22] <soreau> Flannel: I cannot find the where to set the LVM type yet
[05:22] <Cromag> Zyferian: visit youtube and it will do it for you.
[05:22] <soreau> Flannel: How many hundred?
[05:22] <SimplySeth> what is the environment variable for libraries  ?
[05:22] <RedHeron> regeya: please pay attention to fair use next time. ;-)
[05:22] <Flannel> soreau: one should be fine, two is definately sufficient
[05:23]  * RedHeron gives regeya a hard time because torrent !== illegal.
[05:23] <ntolo> How can i deny other users access to firefox and give access to the root only?
[05:23] <Bossmanbeta> isn't !== redundant? just need (1) =
[05:23] <amenado> SimplySeth-> env  | less to see which one you need
[05:23] <SimplySeth> amenado: thanks
[05:23] <regeya> RedHeron, this is one of the times I wish moderators would turn a blind eye for a couple of minutes.
[05:23] <soreau> Flannel: gotcha. I will be in touch
[05:23] <Daisuke_Ido> ntolo: unwise (going online and especially running firefox as root)
[05:23] <nickrud> hah
[05:23] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: Depends on the syntax... that's PHP syntax.
[05:24] <Alan_M> torrent=safe unless the CONTENTS of the torrent are illegal.
[05:24] <Zyferian> bossmanbeta (2) = 's means logically equivalent to... for the record
[05:24] <regeya> RedHeron: because I would tear you a new one for assuming that I wouldn't know that.
[05:24] <Bossmanbeta> RedHeron, ah..... in SQL it's !=
[05:24] <hellppmme> Flannel or Cromag help me pls? when i click Places then Computer i can see the partitions but when i double click INSTALL icon in the desktop,reaching at the Select Partition window,all i see is just /dev/sda and no more specific partition like /dev/sda5 or /dev/sda1, how can i solve this?
[05:24] <dangermike> Does anybody know what could be wrong when anything using the Mozilla engine seg faults galeon, epiphany, firefox versions 2.0.0.6 & 2.0.0.12 as well as version 3 all seg fault?
[05:24] <RedHeron> regeya: Assuming? No. Just making fun. :D
[05:24] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: Right, but in PHP, a single "=" means "store the left into the right".
[05:25] <soreau> Flannel: This bootable will be at mount point '/' correct?
[05:25] <regeya> RedHeron: I'm sick and tired of pretentious kiddies trying to act like they know more than me when I slip.  Whoopsie!  I assumed that because Revolution OS was on DVD, and because someone was asking for torrents of the movie, that they were pirating something.  Let's make fun of the ignorant guy!
[05:25] <Bossmanbeta> RedHeron, :) well not being a php-person, we just spoke past each other, is all........ :-)
[05:25] <Flannel> soreau: bootable flags don't matter
[05:25] <RedHeron> regeya: permission to PM?
[05:25]  * regeya thanks ${DEITY} for /ignore
[05:25] <Alan_M> but...thats sliding towards off topic
[05:25] <Alan_M> or even past off topic
[05:25] <Flannel> soreau: Oh, /boot is mount point /boot
[05:25] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: Yep.
[05:25] <regeya> RedHeron: two words, the second is 'no.'
[05:25] <soreau> Flannel: ok
[05:26] <Zyferian> cromag Dang... that Flash is buggy as all get out
[05:26] <RedHeron> regeya: I find your attitude hostile and unproductively unhelpful... I'm not allowed to make a joke, apparently.
[05:26] <ntolo> Daisuke_Idd: I mean the root should be the only one to execute the firefox command.
[05:26] <zcat[1]> regeya: just readling the rev-os website I can't see anything that says it's CC or otherwise available for free..
[05:26] <soreau> Flannel: I have now 197.4 MB ext3 /boot.  How do I partition the rest?
[05:26] <Alan_M> the flash fix was put in the repositories i thought zyferian
[05:27] <soreau> (two other drives)
[05:27] <Flannel> soreau: create them, make them LVM type
[05:27] <hellppmme> yoh
[05:27] <Zyferian> alan_m not sure, I'm having issues with it
[05:27] <soreau> Flannel: I will attempt
[05:27] <Cromag> Zyferian: its buggy ? i havent checked.
[05:27] <Alan_M> i fresh insttalled ubuntu..and enabled the restricted extras and havent had problems ;)
[05:27] <SimplySeth> apt and aptitude are not finding my variables
[05:27] <SimplySeth> my libraries*
[05:27] <hellppmme> can anyone see my message?
[05:28] <soreau> Flannel: Selected 'primary', now I do not see where to set the type 'LVM'
[05:28] <Flannel> hellppmme: yes
[05:28] <nickrud> hellppmme: yes,
[05:28] <hellppmme> ok
[05:28] <Dr_willis> hellppmme,  No... err..i mean yes.. :)
[05:28] <Flannel> soreau: You need to edit the partition (like where you set the mount point) and change the type to LVM
[05:28] <soreau> ok
[05:28] <hellppmme> what about my previous message above? can someone help me with my problem pls?
[05:28]  * Alan_M thwaps Dr_willis across the wrists
[05:28] <regeya> ok.  license on the Revolution OS DVD is:  "This DVD is for private home viewing only. It is not licensed for any other use. All Rights Reserved. Unauthorized copying, public exhibition, and broadcast are strictly prohibited.”  So yes, torrenting this is PIRACY.
[05:28] <Zyferian> alan_m Did you just download it specially? Or what? And which repositories was it in?
[05:29] <Alan_M> i downloaded it using the regular repositories that shipped with the cd.
[05:29] <Cromag> Zyferian: going to bed now..
[05:29] <zcat[1]> regeya: yeah, that's what I thought too.. I can't find any reference to it being free, anywhere..
[05:29] <Cromag> Sat Mar  1 06:29:17 CET 2008
[05:29] <Zyferian> cromag Night, man... good luck... be seeing ya around
[05:29] <Dr_willis> regeya,  so you can Not watch it with your friends.. or on the bus, or anywhere else theres another person. :)
[05:29] <nickrud> regeya: please let it drop ...
[05:29] <Cromag> Zyferian: we will, nite.
[05:29] <soreau> Flannel: It says 'Mount point for this partition' but no LVM option now. Though it had an option for LVM groups before deleting these partitions
[05:29] <Alan_M> im assuming its in multiverse zyferian, but i used add/remove to get it.
[05:29] <Odd-rationale> Sorry, guys. I assumed that because it was about FSF/Linux that the dvd was free. I'll be more careful next time...
[05:30] <berlylabs> when i go to yahoo games i get    This game cannot be played using your current settings. Please, try the following:    Check to make sure that java is enabled in your browser. (learn more)  If you do not have java installed you may download it here.  To learn more about java support for browsers, visit our help pages.   But if I go there and then check to see that i have java, it says i do
[05:30] <Flannel> soreau: no, no.  You odn't change the mount point, you change the partition type.  Same screen though.  Don't select a mount point
[05:30] <Zyferian> alan_m Alright, I'll try that then
[05:30] <RedHeron> hellppmme: Yes.
[05:30] <zcat[1]> Odd-rationale: It's on youtube though... the quality won't be great :)
[05:30] <soreau> Flannel: I am in no hurry, I am listening to you
[05:30] <hellppmme> RedHeron: can you help me?
[05:31] <Zyferian> alan_m wait, add/remove?
[05:31] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[05:31] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:31] <Daisuke_Ido> oho
[05:31] <zcat[1]> Oh yay.. DeCeeCee again?
[05:31] <Odd-rationale> Netsplits are becoming more common nowadays...
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> that netsplit probably looked a whole lot more impressive from the other side :D
[05:32] <dangermike> yeah
[05:32] <regeya> zcat[1]: I think that people assume that because it's...*sigh* wow, several people have responded to me, and I'm not supposed to respond...okay, once again, *I'm* the one called on the carpet for being OT.  OK, just so I don't get banned for 24 hours again, I'll wrap it up by saying that sounds like a pretty standard copyright statement, and that people assume that somehting's free because it's about free software.  so I'm
[05:32] <regeya> going to be a good little boy and drop it now.  please leave me alon.  all I did was respond to someone wanting to pirate, then repsonded to someone calling me ignorant.  Pardon me for caring. :->
[05:32] <soreau> Flannel:  I found this option: physical volume for LVM and physical volume for RAID. Which should I chose ?
[05:32] <Alan_M> Daisuke_Ido, it looks the same from both sides :)
[05:32] <Flannel> soreau: PV for LVM
[05:32] <soreau> thanks
[05:32] <Bossmanbeta> they should have virtual IP's for IRC servers with failover ability to ensure connectivity
[05:32] <mneptok> soreau: you plan to use LVM?
[05:32] <soreau> Flannel: Bootable flag now? (on|off)
[05:32] <Zyferian> Afk for a while
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> Alan_M: but it doesn't.  there's a whole lot more quits from the other side (900+)
[05:33] <soreau> mneptok: yes
[05:33] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: You're talking about adding features to IRC???
[05:33] <mneptok> soreau: keep /boot *out* of the LVM
[05:33] <zcat[1]> regeya: I'm on your side.. I said it wasn't CC first.
[05:33] <Flannel> soreau: no.  Modern OSs don't care about bootables
[05:33] <Bossmanbeta> RedHeron, lol ... who, me?
[05:33] <Flannel> mneptok: He is.
[05:33] <Alan_M> well if you want to put it that way..you are correct.
[05:33] <soreau> mneptok: We already got that far
[05:33] <mneptok> soreau: excellent
[05:33] <soreau> Flannel: Great
[05:33] <Alan_M> i am a network administrator for a small irc network, ive seen that so many times its almost funny.
[05:33] <Flannel> soreau: Once you've done that, go back to the volume group thing.
[05:33] <Bossmanbeta> RedHeron, hey if it were up to me.. I'd run them off independently off large VM's and mirror them
[05:34] <soreau> Flannel: ok
[05:34] <pbjman> How would I use linux-live to make a custom ubuntu cd? I have a laptop with ubuntu installed and everything configured the way I want it; just, linux-live is bitching at me, claiming it can't copy aufs from it's precompiled kernel they provided.
[05:34] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: That would be fun to set up. :-)
[05:34] <mneptok> pbjman: what is your goal?
[05:34]  * soreau hopes it is not frozen
[05:35] <Alan_M> and...their slowly coming back.
[05:35] <Flannel> pbjman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[05:35] <Bossmanbeta> RedHeron, imagine it ... virtual IP connections with fully transparent TCP stacks mirroring to VMs.... it'd be like RAIDing the IRC :-)
[05:35] <soreau> Flannel: I will read this msg now, sec
[05:35] <mneptok> pbjman: a system that's easy to resetup in case of reinstallation?
[05:35] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: I know... I was thinking about redundancy.
[05:35] <zcat[1]> Redundant Array of IRC Discussion?
[05:35] <Alan_M> Random array of irc discussion.
[05:35] <Alan_M> :P
[05:36] <Bossmanbeta> or .. we can just enjoy the netsplits like we did in the 1990s and enjoy the little bit of nostalgia we have left............. :-)
[05:36] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: But then the fun part would be tunneling protocols and obtaining a QoS guarantee for IRC relays on every continent. :-)
[05:36] <soreau> Flannel: Ok, it just warns that I cannot undo what i am doing ;)
[05:36] <nickrud> !offtopic | all (but funny anyway)
[05:36] <ubotu> all (but funny anyway): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:36] <soreau> Flannel: Formating parts ....
[05:36] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: 1990s? It was happening in the 1980's, too... since I was online in 1984.
[05:36] <Bossmanbeta> RedHeron, bah!!!!!!!!  Put Riverbed WAN (WAAS) acceleration devices at the edge routers ...end of QoS
[05:37] <soreau> Flannel: Shows me LVM Summary .. do you need to review this output?
[05:37] <jscinoz> ugh, i wish i'd ripped all my cd's as ogg, rencoding 5gb of mp3's to ogg is going to take a while :P
[05:37] <Bossmanbeta> RedHeron, 1991 for me..........
[05:37] <mneptok> !offtopic
[05:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:37] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: You're footing the bill for those WAAS devices, right?
[05:37] <Daisuke_Ido> jscinoz: trust me, you don't want to go from mp3 to ogg
[05:37] <dangermike> !debug
[05:37] <ubotu> For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[05:37] <Odd-rationale> jscinoz: Plus encoding lossy --> lossy is not alway best...
[05:38] <mneptok> jscinoz: as much as i support free formats, i agree with Daisuke_Ido
[05:38] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll have better luck re-ripping ...  what odd said
[05:38] <jscinoz> Daisuke_ido, i tested it out on a few before, i couldnt notice any difference
[05:38] <Flannel> soreau: No.  You need to create one volume group using both your physical volumes.  You can name it anything you'd like, but usually people just do vg00 or something similar. (VG for volume group)
[05:38]  * RedHeron does run an IRCd for developmental purposes on his Ubuntu box, FWIW.
[05:38] <Bossmanbeta> RedHeron, ... of course... I will go to my ATM in fantasyland (where we're building this monument to IRC'dom) and withdraw the funnymoney for it.. or maybe I'll enter next year's WSOP and go all in on a 7/2 offsuit :-)
[05:38] <Bossmanbeta> RedHeron, ... of course... I will go to my ATM in fantasyland (where we're building this monument to IRC'dom) and withdraw the funnymoney for it.. or maybe I'll enter next year's WSOP and go all in on a 7/2 offsuit :-)
[05:38] <zcat[1]> jscinoz: rip them to flac .. takes a little extra diskspace but you never have to rip them again.. converting between two lossy formats gives you the worst artifacts of both
[05:38] <nickrud> !ot | Bossmanbeta RedHeron
[05:38] <ubotu> Bossmanbeta RedHeron: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> jscinoz: I reripped all mine. This time I chose .flac
[05:38] <runlevel> boom shockalocka
[05:38] <Daisuke_Ido> whee!
[05:39] <Alan_M> that was FUN!
[05:39] <uno> can anyone help me burn the iso to a cd?
[05:39] <Alan_M> !iso > uno
[05:39] <uno> ya?
[05:39] <soreau> Flannel: Ok, I will create a VG named RAID xD
[05:39] <jscinoz> zcat[1] problem is i can only do that for the ones i actually ripped, quite a few are from torrents :P
[05:39] <nickrud> !iso | uno
[05:39] <ubotu> uno: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:39] <Flannel> soreau: I wouldn't name it RAID, since that could get confusing
[05:39] <soreau> Flannel: Damn this split
[05:39] <RedHeron> Heh... someone's mad at an IRC server.
[05:40] <uno> !iso
[05:40] <soreau> Flannel: Ok, then LVM then
[05:40] <Alan_M> dude, i hate when they freaking do their maintenance
[05:40] <Alan_M> drives me nuts.
[05:40] <zcat[1]> that or someone tripped over the wrong wire
[05:40] <jscinoz> someone spilt their coffee
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> soreau: I damn thee, split!
[05:40] <nickrud> uno: not a good factoid, sorry. You burning this in windows?  ifrarecorder works well, it's free. Write it as a cd image
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, i watched the jerk yesterday
[05:40] <Alan_M> its probably server maintenance guys, just relax :)
[05:40] <Flannel> soreau: suggest vg00 or vg0 or something.  Nothing too long, since ... you'll be concating these things together
[05:40] <Alan_M> relax and enjoy the ride :)
[05:40] <soreau> Flannel: I'm now confused about which File System I will be using
[05:40] <Odd-rationale> uno: from Windows or Linux?
[05:41] <nickrud> !language | Daisuke_Ido
[05:41] <ubotu> Daisuke_Ido: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:41] <mneptok> !offtopic | Alan_M
[05:41] <ubotu> Alan_M: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:41] <uno> i tryed ifrarecorder, imgburn, nero and none of them work
[05:41] <soreau> Flannel: And what does VG stand for?
[05:41] <simgislab> hi, did somebody have luck with installing Expect 5.4.3 under ubuntu?
[05:41] <nickrud> uno: did you check the md5sum of your download?
[05:41] <soreau> (Virtual Group?)
[05:41] <uno> i'v made sure the md5 sum is the same
[05:41] <mneptok> Alan_M: please move the netadmin discussion elsewhere.
[05:41] <regeya> jscinoz: bad idea re-encoding mp3 -> ogg.  Re-rip if you must do taht; you'll end up with files that are far lower quality than ogg provides if you rtransencode, and vorbis is about as good as faac in the quality dept. and be sure to use sound juicer, the ripper of ubuntu!  (keeping it on-topic.)
[05:41] <uno> i'v burned the cd at 4x
[05:41] <uno> and 2x
[05:41] <Flannel> soreau: You create a volume group, that volume group is a virtual disk, as far as we're concerned.  Then we'll create logical volumes ontop of that, which mimic partitions if we were doing this outside of LVM.  They can be whatever sort of filesystem you like.  Ubuntu uses ext3 by default.
[05:41] <Bossmanbeta> what's with all the offtopic police....
[05:41] <jscinoz> regeya, what about mp3 > flac?
[05:41] <Flannel> soreau: volume group
[05:42] <Bossmanbeta> self-made deputys i tell ya
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> uno: have you tried: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[05:42] <mneptok> Bossmanbeta: look at the channel. and this is quiet.
[05:42] <Alan_M> mneptok, if you have been reading, i actually DID move that discussion elsewhere and moved on...but thanks for paying attention :)
[05:42] <nickrud> heh uno You've made sure you wrote it as an image? When you look at it in windows, it's not just one file on the cd?
[05:42] <RedHeron> Okay, seriously... where do I find a list of MD5sums to match against, say, /bin/login to make sure it hasn't changed?
[05:42] <Bossmanbeta> sorry, mneptok ?
[05:42] <mneptok> Alan_M: 00:40 < Alan_M> relax and enjoy the ride :)
[05:42] <soreau> Flannel: ubuntu uses ext3 by default. thanks
[05:42] <RedHeron> Bossmanbeta: Feel free to PM me or join one of the other channels.
[05:42] <uno> ya i tried iso recorder
[05:42] <Alan_M> and...ubotu would say the same thing..so ubotu's going offtopic as well?
[05:42] <mneptok> Bossmanbeta: there is a reason for keeping things on support only topics. please respect it.
[05:42] <uno> ya i burn it as an image
[05:42] <uno> when i brows the cd it is a bunch of files
[05:43] <mneptok> Alan_M: last warning.
[05:43] <regeya> jscinoz: you'll end up with much larger files that sound remarkably like your mp3s.  I'd just recommend gritting your teeth and either re-rip or keep using a non-free format.
[05:43] <nickrud> uno: ok. Could be you need the alternate cd, some machines won't boot the live cd
[05:43] <jscinoz> >_<
[05:43] <uno> well my brother burned ubuntu 7.04 and i got that working
[05:43] <TrustNoOne> oh man is floodbot flooding again?
[05:43] <uno> but then the cd became currupt and it doesnt work anymore
[05:44] <regeya> jscinoz: ultimately, it's your choice.  if you transcode to vorbis, and it sounds fine to you, by all means go for it :->
[05:44] <zcat[1]> TrustNoOne: it's aptly named then :)
[05:44] <nickrud> uno: 7.04 is not 7.10 ...
[05:44] <efren30> jack-desktop:wich one is the button super?
[05:44] <uno> i no but should it matter?
[05:44] <googlingtingwana> soreau, sorry to sidetrack you here .... if LVM still works as it used to, then you can add extra volumes on the fly at a later time ... if you are having trouble getting the partitions set up you could just use the "guided LVM (not encrypted)" option which will configure all of one of your drives
[05:44] <regeya> TrustNoOne: when I got banned for a day, it was for complaining about the floodbot.
[05:44] <nickrud> uno it can, yes
[05:44] <jscinoz> thanks :)
[05:44] <Odd-rationale> efren30: The windows key
[05:44] <efren30> k
[05:44] <uno> is there any way i can get 7.04?
[05:44] <googlingtingwana> soreau, ...later you could add the second drive
[05:44] <soreau> googlingtingwana: Your nick is really long lol
[05:44] <nickrud> uno:   releases.ubuntu.com/7.04
[05:44] <Alan_M> #ubuntu-ops
[05:45] <Alan_M> crap
[05:45] <pbjman> no one can help me making my custom ubuntu cd using linux-live?
[05:45] <uno> brb
[05:45] <pbjman> :(
[05:45] <Bossmanbeta> anyone aware of a way of detaching a remote X application running via 'ssh -Y' for re-attaching later? (Just like 'screen' but for X apps) There's an old-old app called 'xmove' (last updated 1997) but it's very buggy and doesn't work. VNC and NX are whole-desktop solutions and doesn't work well when I want to run local & remote apps on a unified local desktop.
[05:45] <googlingtingwana> soreau, thank goodness for TAB, right?
[05:45] <reZo> hello, my ubuntu system is hanging at fsck, how can i resolve this: http://rafb.net/p/8Cjz6I95.html
[05:45] <soreau> Flannel: I pressed one wring button, now I am here at the Finish option
[05:45] <SimplySeth> what in the world does apt need to find its own libraries ?
[05:45] <soreau> wrong*
[05:45] <soreau> googlingtingwana: Yes :D
[05:45] <Flannel> soreau: go back?
[05:46] <uno> ok i am downloading 7.04 ill see if that works thx
[05:46] <regeya> reZo: nothing after that line?  um...I don't know...looks like all is well
[05:46] <Flannel> soreau: You should be able to go back and just re-configure LVM.  The VG should be there still I believe (although it may not be), but the PVs will be there.
[05:46] <soreau> Flannel: I will select 'Finish' now as my group name is VG0
[05:46] <reZo> regeya: yeah, it hangs there, nothing after that line apart from the pointer blinking.
[05:46] <soreau> I set  it up
[05:46]  * soreau crosses fingers
[05:46] <Flannel> soreau: did you create at least one logical volume for /?
[05:46] <soreau> Flannel: I don't think so ;)
[05:46] <reZo> it's been like this for about 20 minutes now :S
[05:46] <uday> sound is not coming when i play video.what to do now?
[05:47] <soreau> Ok, I think I see now
[05:47] <reZo> and it's happened for the last few boots, and hasn't gotten passed this point
[05:47] <soreau> Flannel: What should the logical volume name be?
[05:48] <hypomnema> Does anyone know where the "highlight mouse cursor when I press control" checkbox is on 7.10/gutsy gibbon?
[05:48] <soreau> Flannel: What should the logical volume name befor '/'?
[05:48] <Flannel> soreau: You can name it whatever you like, I named mine lv-[partition] where [partition] is what I was going to use it for (lv-root, lv-home, etc)
[05:48] <hypomnema> (Preferences -> Mouse is missing the Cursors tab on my machine for some reason.)
[05:48] <soreau> Flannel: I am at this point now ...
[05:49] <soreau> Flannel: I am curious as to how it will show up in /dev
[05:49] <yao_ziyuan> does ubuntu support listening to realaudio streaming?
[05:50] <regeya> I know this is ot but what is mode J
[05:50] <vrkhans> i have a problem, i tried to install the java doc, got some error in installing the doc, so i quite it, but now if i try to install any thing it again stop at that error thing that java doc could not be install, how i can fix that.
[05:50] <uday> can anyone help me.sound is not coming?is this a problem with audio driver?
[05:50] <nickrud> yao_ziyuan: I've had success on some streams with the mozilla-mplayer plugin, with the w32codecs
[05:50] <Flannel> soreau: it's /dev/mapper/[VG]-[LV], or at least is in Dapper.  It'll probably just show up as UUIDs in more recent versions
[05:51] <soreau> Flannel: You do not use even edgy eft, feisty fawn or dare i say gutsy?
[05:51] <regeya> and why does flood bot keep having to set mode +J then set -J a second later, then repeat the cycle a second later
[05:51] <soreau> (gibbon ;)
[05:52] <vrkhans> any good wma player which is simple and good like vlc
[05:52] <Bossmanbeta> vrkhans, xmms
[05:52] <vrkhans> xmms doesnt play wma it only play mp3
[05:52] <Bossmanbeta> vrkhans, or audacious
[05:52] <pretender> does anyone now where i can get some jewel case cd inlays for glabels
[05:53]  * regeya /ignores the bots; remember kids, you can ignore the bots and it looks a lot less like a concerted bot attack to flood the channel
[05:53] <Bossmanbeta> vrkhans, there's a plugin for xmms to play wma's
[05:53] <nickrud> vrkhans: with the xmms-wma plugin, it does
[05:53] <soreau> Flannel: I see the max size as the addition of the two drives. YAY!
[05:53] <[chr0n0s]> !ping
[05:53] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[05:54] <Bossmanbeta> vrkhans,  sudo apt-get install xmms-wma
[05:54] <googlingtingwana> regeya, how to ignore the bots?
[05:54] <yao_ziyuan> i mean realaudio stream
[05:54] <yao_ziyuan> not wma
[05:54] <soreau> Flannel: I hope it has not frozen up on me :(
[05:54] <reZo> looks like im' going to have to turn fsck checks up higher, or off, it's hanging for no reason, the file system is alright :S :(
[05:54] <nickrud> yao_ziyuan: yes, that's what I was answering
[05:54] <mneptok> vrkhans: let's insert the "you're hosed if it's DRMed" bit now
[05:55] <dede> padang
[05:55] <regeya> googlingtingwana: actually I noticed it's not working so I'm asking in #kubuntu for help with konversation
[05:55] <soreau> Who the hell controls the FloodBots and what do they do?
[05:55] <Bossmanbeta> DRM went the way of betamax, HD-DVD and the dodo-bird
[05:55] <jscinoz> is it just me or is soundconverter really slow at reading tags.
[05:56] <pyrak> enable universe repo
[05:56] <reZo> would having 0 space left on a hard drive, make fsck hang?
[05:56] <pyrak> 's from command line?
[05:56] <Zoiks> anyone have any experiance with mdadm
[05:56] <Zoiks> ?
[05:56] <Fwblean> I've got an old XP box that I want to add Ubuntu to. It's got a single 160gb partition on C: and I want to resize that to make room for Ubuntu, but the partition is very fragmented with files all over the place. How should I go about creating a partition for Ubuntu?
[05:57] <hypomnema> soreau, apparently nobody, and apparently flood channels with -J/+J mode sets =)
[05:57] <Bossmanbeta> there's no 'a' in "experience"
[05:57] <mikesa81> a question about partitioning. I would like to install ubuntu on one partition, and on another i wanted to install kubuntu with kde4, would i have problems if they were both to share a third partition /home ?
[05:57] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, some, for raid-1 (mirror)
[05:57] <Flannel> mikesa81: You don't have tohave separate installs for that.
[05:57] <mikesa81> i wanted to keep them physically seperated
[05:57] <vrkhans> thansk
[05:57] <hdevalence> mikesa81: don't think so
[05:57] <regeya> hypomnema: I looked it up, and that's join throttling.  though I have no idea why one channel needs three bots to constantly toggle that setting.
[05:57] <pyrak> how do i enable universe from the command line?
[05:57] <pyrak> "terminal"
[05:57] <Flannel> pyrak: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:57] <Fwblean> mikesa81: You can add kubuntu to Ubuntu and swap at the logon screen
[05:57] <vrkhans> what about my other problem
[05:58] <regeya> they're the equivalent of a two year old who's learned how to operate the light switch.
[05:58] <soreau> Flannel: Erm .. I did this and now after 'Finish' it restarts the partitioner at which point I see hmm ...
[05:58] <soreau> sec :D
[05:58] <mneptok> pyrak: remove the # from the beginning of the line with the universe repos
[05:58] <mikesa81> Flannel: i know i can have them both on, i wanted to keep one clean, and screw around with the other
[05:58] <mikesa81> Fwbean: see my msg above
[05:59] <Flannel> mikesa81: the only drawback to sharing a home is that you'll have user configs for each in your homedir, not a big issue at all.
[05:59] <googlingtingwana> soreau, I assume you are using the "alternate" install/live CD, right?
[05:59] <pyrak> mneptok, thanks
[05:59] <pyrak> Flannel++
[05:59] <hdevalence> mikesa81: you could also install KDE4 in the ~ of a seperate user, though you'de be building from SVN not from installing the packages
[05:59] <hdevalence> which is more techinical
[05:59] <hdevalence> and more buggy
[05:59] <soreau> googlingtingwana: Yes, I have got it, just need a swap part I forgot to add xD
[06:00] <mneptok> pyrak: then go add a 0 to your gateway addy >:)
[06:00] <mikesa81> Flannel: they configs would be seperate for the most part, except some display drivers etc... right?
[06:00] <pyrak> mneptok++
[06:00] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: im trying to make a raid 5
[06:00]  * regeya turns the lightswitch on.  regeya_ turns lightswitch off.  regeya__ turns lightswitch on.  regeya turns lightswitch off.  regeya_ turns lightswitch on.  regeya__ turns lightswitch off... 
[06:00] <mikesa81> hdevalence: yeah.. dont really want to build anything
[06:00] <cubexombi> what package in xfce4 controls your background/display settings?
[06:00] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, for an already running system or a fresh install?
[06:00] <Flannel> mikesa81: display driver configs aren't in your home.  Its just any user configurations you do, will both go in home.  And yeah, they'll be mostly separate (because KDE and Gnome use different apps)
[06:01] <soreau> googlingtingwana: Ok, so what is recommended swap size? I have 256 MB of mem on this old box
[06:01] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: i am running off a livecd
[06:01] <NewbieJohn> okay, so, good news, DVD support now works, bad news, my test DVD is "Freddie Vrs. Jason"
[06:01] <berlylabs> anyone know how to get yahoo games to work on gutsy gibbon
[06:01] <hellppmme> hey
[06:01] <googlingtingwana> soreau, 2*mem ... so 512MB
[06:01] <hdevalence> mikesa81: yeah, it's a PITA. But if it's the time factor you're worried about, there are ways around that
[06:01] <mneptok> berlylabs: did you install java?
[06:01] <mikesa81> Flannel: ok, so that i'd have to set up twice, no biggy
[06:01] <soreau> googlingtingwana: That's how I usually config ubuntu, just asking, thanks!
[06:02] <hellppmme> my gawd
[06:02] <berlylabs> mneptok: as far as I know
[06:02] <mikesa81> hdevalence: PITA?
[06:02] <regeya> okay nickrud, though I would have complied without comment had you not privmsged me...cripes.
[06:02] <mneptok> berlylabs: how?
[06:02] <hellppmme> this partition problem is new to me
[06:02] <NewbieJohn> next up, GG seems to have a problem remembering that I use WPA2 and not WPA and it seems to default to that everytime I open network config, anyway to make this permanent?
[06:02] <snypzz> need to set video resolution on Ubuntu PS3
[06:02] <jscinoz> mikesa81, pain in the ass
[06:02] <hellppmme> anyone care to help me?
[06:02] <tehCurtis> anyone good with installing nginx on gutsy? i installed it, but it's not "installed", nginx still throws a "command not found"
[06:02] <tehCurtis> did i miss something?
[06:02] <mikesa81> hdevalence: ah.. yeah packages are way too easy to bother :)
[06:02] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, unfortunately the live CD doesn't have mdadm, but you can install it if you have a network connection from the live CD
[06:02] <nickrud> regeya: trying to be quiet about it, and you're right
[06:02] <Gokee2> Hello all I am having the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aumix/+bug/145805 on a new install of xubuntu on a laptop.  I ran apt-get update and apt-get install aumix to get the latest version but am still getting SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK.  Any idea why this would be and how to fix it?  (I asked in xubuntu over 15 min ago but no one seems to be around) Thanks
[06:03] <snypzz> is there a KBOOT command like PS3_1080i
[06:03] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, I guess I should check whether you are trying to do hardware raid, software raid, or possibly "fake" raid?
[06:03] <berlylabs> mne: when i go to the java site, and ask it to see if i have it, it says i do
[06:03] <pbjman> Okay- extremely sloppy, but no support otherwise- would it be possible to copy every directory (/bin/, /home/, etc) to a cd and boot from it on different pcs?
[06:03] <berlylabs> but yahoo still says I don't
[06:03] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: thats what I have done. using mdadm to make a softraid
[06:03] <soreau> googlingtingwana: I selected this, now the rest of the formally FREE SPACE is defined as unusable
[06:03] <soreau> :\
[06:03] <Zoiks> its currently building
[06:03] <Zoiks> Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4]
[06:03] <Zoiks> md0 : active raid5 sdc1[3] sdb1[1] sda1[0]
[06:03] <Zoiks>       976767872 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/2] [UU_]
[06:03] <Zoiks>       [>....................]  recovery =  4.1% (20208892/488383936) finish=98.5min speed=79184K/sec
[06:03] <Zoiks> unused devices: <none>
[06:03] <mneptok> berlylabs: ok
[06:03] <FloodBot3> Zoiks: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <regeya> ok, the best advice I got was 'use ignore' in #kubuntu; any idea how to filter out those bot msgs in konversation?  I know that's a kde thing hence kubuntu but there you have it
[06:04] <berlylabs> mneptok: any other ideas
[06:04] <berlylabs> ?
[06:04] <mneptok> regeya: filter mode changes
[06:04] <regeya> mneptok: thansk
[06:04] <mneptok> berlylabs: i'm not a Y1 Games user, sorry
[06:04] <hdevalence> mikesa81: the reason I point it out though is that KDE 4.0.1 packages are kinda terrible; most of the change for 4.0 is in kdelibs
[06:04] <berlylabs> anyone here know how to get yahoo games to work on ubuntu, gutsy?
[06:04] <pbjman> Nobody knows if you can make a complete backup of ubuntu and boot off od a cd containing those files?
[06:04] <DJ_HaMsTa> install java ?
[06:04] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, looks like you already have it setup to some extent, what is your final aim?
[06:04] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: see how it says 3/2 and UU_, that has me worried that its not doing it properly
[06:04] <berlylabs> java is installed
[06:05] <pbjman> of*
[06:05] <hdevalence> Can an ordinary PCI wireless network card be used on my linux box as a wifi router?
[06:05] <mikesa81> another question... would i need two swap partitions? or would one be fine? i can only think if i was to hibernate the comp, then choose another dist, and it used the same swap, or is that not how it works?
[06:05] <berlylabs> as far as I know
[06:05] <cubexombi> now Remember boys and girls when running xfce4 "xfdesktop" can be killed by xkill
[06:05] <hellppmme> dual boot anyone help me?
[06:05] <nickrud> mikesa81: that's one reason to use two swaps, yes
[06:05] <cubexombi> grumbles about touchpad
[06:05] <Gokee2> hellppmme, Whats your question
[06:05] <nickrud> !synaptics | cubexombi
[06:05] <ubotu> cubexombi: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:05] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana, I have tried a few times before and it couldnt format the partition into ext3
[06:05] <Bossmanbeta> hdevalence, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376283
[06:06] <tehCurtis> i added nginx to etc/profile with this: export PATH=/usr/local/nginx/sbin:$PATH
[06:06] <pbjman> Ugh... :( No help? >.<
[06:06] <tehCurtis> is that right?
[06:06] <Zoiks> just hoping that you would have a pointer
[06:06] <vrkhans> when ever i tried to use apt-get install to install any thingi am getting an error about the java doc, that it wont be installed ,
[06:06] <Sumdumguy> whats the best/most widly used c compiler i should use/install  ?
[06:06] <vrkhans> what should i do to fix this
[06:06] <TigranG> berlylabs: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23218
[06:06] <cubexombi> nah nickrud, it's more my fingers making it click randomly when using xkill.. *poof* went my desktop for a minute there
[06:06] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, I haven't used raid-5, does it always build at the outset when you first create it?
[06:06] <nickrud> vrkhans: you have to get the docs from the sun site, and copy them to /tmp so the installer can find them.
[06:06] <mikesa81> nickrud: thanks. i guess i'd be asked during installation?
[06:06] <Bossmanbeta> vrkhans, post the error details in pastebin
[06:07] <nickrud> mikesa81: yes, you can create as many swaps there as you like. But you'll need to edit /etc/fstab manually to use only one, I think
[06:07] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: yeah it always builds straight away
[06:07] <berlylabs> Tigran: saw that site
[06:07] <berlylabs> not sure what this means
[06:07] <berlylabs> Problem solved. I deleted the 1.4 GNU plugin
[06:08] <vrkhans> bossmanbeta how i can post the error in pastebin
[06:08] <soreau> Flannel: I am having a problem now, It does not ask me the Primary or Logical question, just I define a swap partition and I might have to do this again .. Should swap be out of the LVM group as well??
[06:08] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, do you have to wait for it to finish before trying to format it, maybe?
[06:08] <mikesa81> hdevalence: still huh? i keep hearing them talk about stability on the dot... i tried a live cd as soon as it was available, it was a live cd so.... i just wanted to poke around.
[06:08] <Bossmanbeta> vrkhans, go to http://pastebin.com/ for details
[06:08] <regeya> actually I'm already ignoring floodbot notices...huh.
[06:08] <Flannel> soreau: LVM doesn't have any notion of primary or logical.  Swap can be on the LVM, yes.
[06:08]  * regeya gives up and goes to bed.
[06:08] <tehCurtis> anyone?
[06:08]  * mneptok sets mode +r bed
[06:08] <Sumdumguy> whats the best/most widly used c compiler i should use/install  ?
[06:08]  * mneptok sets mode -r bed
[06:08]  * mneptok sets mode -r 2,5 bed
[06:09] <nickrud> flood mneptok
[06:09] <mikesa81> nickrud: ok, i did that when setting up my /home, similar procedure i imagine, but do you know where i could find some info on what the command would look like?
[06:09] <Sumdumguy> how do you set modes ?
[06:09] <hellppmme> Gokee2: im on live cd now my /dev/sda is using dual boot one is my ubuntu old and my winxp, now ive installed winxp and when i boot the laptop it will boot the winxp but no more grub to select which OS to boot,im planning to reinstall ubuntu as well but when im in install program at Preparing Partition i cant see the different partitions but only /dev/sda,how can i select the right partition for my ubuntu then?
[06:09] <soreau> Flannel: I set one partition in LVM group and then the rest of the space becomes labeled as 'unusable' (same if I define the '/' first)
[06:09] <mneptok> nickrud++
[06:09] <nickrud> Mikelevel: which one?
[06:09] <regeya> bwahaha
[06:09] <hdevalence> mikesa81: well, I'm using the trunk right now... it's very nice, but unstable a\nd a bit patchy. Plasma in 4.0 is very bad and so is Kontact. The rest is probably acceptable
[06:09] <nel> quit
[06:10] <nel> #quit
[06:10] <Flannel> soreau: You're talking about logical volumes, right?
[06:10] <soreau> yes
[06:10] <mneptok> nel: /quit
[06:10] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: it says you dont have to in all the guides, however I normally wait and let it finish anyway
[06:10] <berlylabs> how do people do all these action things
[06:10] <mikesa81> hdevalence: would it be a bad idea to allow those buggy apps access to my /home?
[06:10] <mneptok> berlylabs: /me
[06:10] <Flannel> soreau: You shouldn't have any problem creating more than one in a volume group
[06:10] <regeya> please, nobody get kickbanned over my setting mode +sleep...funny, but don't overdo it.  the ops here have their hands full as it is, and I'm being honest and genuine in that.  y'all have a lot to deal with on the weekend and I salute you.  now stop picking on me j/k
[06:10] <berlylabs> sleep
[06:10] <berlylabs> hmm
[06:10] <soreau> Flannel: hmm ..
[06:11]  * soreau tries
[06:11]  * berlylabs sigh
[06:11] <berlylabs> oh got it
[06:11] <Sumdumguy> whats the best/most widly used c compiler i should use/install  ?
[06:11] <hdevalence> Sumdumguy: gcc
[06:11] <mneptok> Sumdumguy: gcc
[06:11] <Gokee2> hellppmme, I always use the manual configure the partition table
[06:11] <Sumdumguy> thanks
[06:11] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, new territory for me, but I'm going off to set up a raid-5 set for the first time - what filesystem are you planning to put on it?
[06:11] <mneptok> Sumdumguy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:11] <Sumdumguy> thanks again
[06:12] <Gokee2> hellppmme, If you do that you get a table of all yout partitions and get to choose where to put the ubuntu install
[06:12]  * berlylabs still trying to get help so she can play yahoo games
[06:12] <hellppmme> Gokee2: yes i chose manual configure but still i can ony see /dev/sda and not that partition of my installed winxp which is /dev/sda5 and my oldubuntu which is /dev/sda1 are not there
[06:12] <berlylabs> anyone know how to run IE on wine
[06:13] <usser> !ies4linux
[06:13] <ubotu> ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[06:13] <hdevalence> mikesa81: I don't think there'll be a problem. Even if something did happen, you could recover from your regular backups, right? :D In any case, I don't think anything bad would happen
[06:13] <berlylabs> ty
[06:13] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: i have only ever used ext3 with linux
[06:14] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: you ahve any other suggestions?
[06:14] <monte> how do i get an external hardrive to mount
[06:14] <dangermike> monte do you know the dev name?
[06:14] <Zoiks> monte: fdisk -l
[06:14] <dangermike> dmesg if you dont
[06:14] <Zoiks> which drive is it
[06:14] <tehCurtis> how do i uninstall something?
[06:14] <mikesa81> hdevalence: yeh.. :) i've been meaning to get that set up.. :) any suggestions for some automatic backup?
[06:14] <tehCurtis> i installed nginx and want to remove it
[06:14] <dangermike> tehCurtis sudo apt-get remove xxx
[06:14] <Gokee2> hellppmme, Hmmm you got windows to install on sda5?  I have not been able to make it install on anything other then part 1.  I have not tried in many years though.  I don`t know why your other ones are not listed.  Try cfdisk /dev/sda at a command line and see if that has all your parts
[06:15] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, I've used reiserfs for years with no problems and good performance - I'm about to give raid-5 a try (wonders of vmware)
[06:15] <nickrud> tehCurtis: sudo apt-get remove pkg
[06:15] <tehCurtis> sweet thanks
[06:15] <op305> noob here tryin to install ubuntu on pc
[06:15] <op305> 1st where to get
[06:15] <op305> ?
[06:15] <Gnutz> ubuntu.com
[06:15] <Bossmanbeta> mikesa81, rsync is on of the best backup tools out there
[06:15] <dangermike> ...
[06:15] <nickrud> op305: releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 , use the torrent if possible
[06:15] <soreau> Flannel: Basically, I need to create now a logical partition. But it wont let me undo the changes I have made or edit anything. Should I reboot it and try again?
[06:16] <CoolBreeze> hey all, i have a security question on vnc: i use a vnc viewer to remote to my ubuntu desktop from my laptop (win xp) in the same house. I port forwarded my router (port 5900) so that i could connect from my work as well. When i got home tonight I noticed there were x2 other users connected and i cut them off right away. How is this possible? I set it so that you have to enter an 8 character pw to take control when you remote i
[06:16] <mikesa81> Bossmanbeta: thanks. i could schedule it
[06:16] <mikesa81> ?
[06:16] <hdevalence> mikesa81: I use rsync, though I use it to do simple things such as  "rsync -aPv /home/harry/ /mnt/voyager6/backup/"
[06:16] <Bossmanbeta> mikesa81, yep
[06:16] <Gnutz> Anyone know why my nfs server would be having connection timeouts?
[06:16] <monte> dangermike: i have no clue i no when i put it in my laptop that it works course it is windows lol but i am trying to move files
[06:16] <Dr_willis> CoolBreeze,  using vnc over the internet without a ssh tunnle is NOT a good idea.
[06:17] <monte> zoiks: wat is that
[06:17] <CoolBreeze> even with a pw enabled?
[06:17] <Sumdumguy> mneptok, thanks again :) I have a new server install, and am missing a LOT of stuff is there a lib package i should install ?
[06:17] <Bossmanbeta> CoolBreeze, first off... never fwd a port for VNC directly............... SSH to your box (on a different port than the default port) and use the -L option is ssh to tunnel VNC encrypted and securely to your box...
[06:17] <Dr_willis> CoolBreeze,  well.. you had 2 other users connected.. :) so logicially YES a password is not enough security
[06:17] <dangermike> monte run dmesg it should be sda/sdb etc
[06:17] <hdevalence> mikesa81: I had it as a cron job which would fail silently if my external drive was not connected
[06:17] <mikesa81> hdevalence:thanks
[06:17] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: yeah, i have thought about trying others...just was not sure on compatibility and stability and such
[06:18] <mikesa81> Bossmanbeta:thanks
[06:18] <Gnutz> I've heard VNC passwords are also transmitted as plain text.  Is that right?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> CoolBreeze,  time to be viruschecking  and possibially reinstalling that windows box.
[06:18] <CoolBreeze> guys, thanks for the tips. i will apply this logic right away.
[06:18] <mikesa81> hdevalence:cron?
[06:18] <Bossmanbeta> CoolBreeze, also..... on sshd_config DISABLE the permit root login option (set it to 'no') to prevent a hack into ssh and gaining ROOT
[06:18] <berlylabs>     /home/kimberly/.ies4linux/downloads/mfc42.cab: No such file or directory
[06:18] <berlylabs>  An error occured when trying to cabextract some files.
[06:18] <hdevalence> mikesa81: kinda
[06:18] <monte> dangermike: how do i do that
[06:18] <Bossmanbeta> CoolBreeze, you can also configure SSHD to only accept connections from specific IPs to further prevent hack attempts
[06:18] <dangermike> monte open terminal
[06:19] <dangermike> monte and type in dmesg then press enter
[06:19] <hdevalence> mikesa81: I made a custom wrapper script that ran it
[06:19] <Gnutz> Any Mac users in here?  I'm trying to set up my Ubuntu machine as a backup device for Time Machine, but so far no luck.  Can't tell if it's a client or server issue.
[06:19] <Bossmanbeta> CoolBreeze, while you're at it... set up a honeypot and and then get their IPs and write their ISP about their evil doings
[06:20] <monte> dangermike: it says cannot be found
[06:21] <storm-ze1> I need some help configuring firestarter for samba.  I'm pretty sure it's firewall related, because when I drop it (which I later determined I don't really want to do again), it works like a charm... But adding the networks to "allow connections from host" or the ports to "Allow service" section (with or without network restriction) doesn't work.
[06:21] <dangermike> monte dmesg its there trust me
[06:21] <op305> thnx nickrud gnutz
[06:21] <tehCurtis> ack! the uninstall failed!
[06:21] <tehCurtis> Stopping nginx: invoke-rc.d: initscript nginx, action "stop" failed.
[06:21] <monte> dangermike: i put a q sorry lol
[06:21] <tehCurtis> did i do something wrong?
[06:21] <dangermike> tehCurtis what happened
[06:21] <tehCurtis> dpkg: error processing nginx (--remove):
[06:21] <tehCurtis> then
[06:22] <tehCurtis> eventually
[06:22] <tehCurtis> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:22] <monte> dangermike: i have it up
[06:22] <Bossmanbeta> anyone aware of a way of detaching a remote X application running via 'ssh -Y' for re-attaching later? (Just like 'screen' but for X apps) There's an old-old app called 'xmove' (last updated 1997) but it's very buggy and doesn't work. VNC and NX are whole-desktop solutions and doesn't work well when I want to run local & remote apps on a unified local desktop.
[06:22] <nickrud> tehCurtis: probably not, unless you deleted /etc/nginx (or whatever the config file is located)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Bossmanbeta,  try asking in ##linux :)
[06:22] <dangermike> monte you should have a usb section at the bottom copy the last 10 or so lines and PM them to me
[06:22] <tehCurtis> i didn't manually removing anything yet
[06:22] <Bossmanbeta> Dr_willis, sure... beggars can't be choosers :-)
[06:22] <hellppmme> Gokee2_: and this is something cuz when i click PLaces then Computer i can see the partitions
[06:23] <dangermike> tehCurtis you may want to try opening synaptics and removing from there
[06:23] <tehCurtis> i just think i have more than one install so i was trying to remove the one i added via apt
[06:23] <tehCurtis> k
[06:23] <nickrud> tehCurtis: put up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org the complete error
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Bossmanbeta,  id like to see how it could be done :)
[06:23] <Bossmanbeta> Dr_willis, but I'll continue to ask at regular intervals.... you never know when master yoda of the ssh-clan of the clan McCloud should ever waltz in :)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Bossmanbeta,  go bug all the disrto channels. :) heh heh
[06:23] <tehCurtis> paste
[06:23] <tehCurtis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57908/
[06:24] <Bossmanbeta> lol
[06:24] <mikesa81> hdevalence: running trunk, does that update your machine pretty much daily? or you have to checkout from svn everytime and build everytime you want to update?
[06:24] <hellppmme> im sorry my sda1 is my winxp and my sda5 is my linux
[06:24] <Bossmanbeta> Perhaps I should start in #Gentoo ... all those compiler-geeks
[06:24] <Gokee2_> hellppmme, Hmm then I don`t know why they would be missing from the installer
[06:24] <nickrud> tehCurtis: now the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/nginx.prerm
[06:24] <hellppmme> bugs perhaps
[06:24] <nickrud> tehCurtis: that's the script that's failing
[06:24] <hellppmme> let me restart my laptop
[06:24] <hellppmme> brb
[06:25] <tehCurtis> k
[06:25] <hellppmme> ill load again the livecd
[06:25] <Bossmanbeta> Dr_willis, but these days .. Ubuntu is like jupiter with a huge gravitational pull ... all the other distros pale in scale... except maybe fedora/redhat
[06:26] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, it's recovering at the moment, but I need to reboot to have the kernel re-read the partition table after the recovery is finished
[06:26] <tehCurtis> nickrud: nothing in there
[06:27] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: ok
[06:27] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: my hard drive just started beeping... freaking me out
[06:27] <Zoiks> lol
[06:27] <Bossmanbeta> hard drives dont beep
[06:27] <Bossmanbeta> ...system speakers do...
[06:27] <Zoiks> lol this did
[06:27] <nickrud> tehCurtis: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nginx.* , if you see it there you did a typo
[06:28] <tehCurtis> ah
[06:28] <tehCurtis> found it
[06:28] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, when the recovery finished, the status changed from 3/2 (UU_) to 3/3 (UUU)
[06:28] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, a hard drive beeping ... never heard that before
[06:29] <monte> dangermike: r u there
[06:29] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: yours went really quickly, how big is your raid 5?
[06:29] <dangermike> monte yeah
[06:29]  * xoRock status: [Away: zzzzz....] [Since: 13:30-Lumajang] [AwayPager: on] [AwayLog: on]
[06:29] <monte> dangermike: ok did i send u the right stuff
[06:29] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, I created a real small one, just 1GB for each disk
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> here's hoping that fixes it.
[06:29] <dangermike> i never received your pm
[06:30] <dondong> hi,ever1
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> trying to get pwhdavey online.  conexant is SO much fun.
[06:30] <tehCurtis> nickrud:  waiting for the pastie to load...
[06:30] <nickrud> tehCurtis: ok
[06:30] <tinman> How do I reinstall, x server? (I am on live cd and root partiion is sda2)
[06:30] <dangermike> monte this happened to me earlier... post the results here http://pastebin.com/   then paste your link in chat ill look at it
[06:31] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: lol thats why.. mine is 500 each disk
[06:31] <tinman> I HAVE to reinstall x server, I think, i have tried everything else, and reinstalling x server is my last option, anyone?
[06:31] <dangermike> tinman sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:31] <tinman> dangermike: done that a thousand times
[06:31] <dangermike> whats the error
[06:32] <tinman> Like i said, i need to reinstall x server
[06:32] <tinman> dangermike: i get everything to work but the mouse
[06:32] <tinman> works fine on live cd
[06:32] <tinman> copying the config, or makinf similar dosent work at all
[06:32] <tehCurtis> nickrud: it seems to be down, so i pasted it here
[06:32] <tehCurtis> http://pastie.caboo.se/159682
[06:32] <tinman> using vesa with other options (after trial) gives me a login screen
[06:32] <tehCurtis> thanks for looking
[06:32] <tinman> but the mouse still dosent work
[06:33] <monte> dangermike: do u want me to post the whole entire game
[06:34] <tinman> So, anyway I can reinstall x server?
[06:34] <dangermike> monte you need to past the pastebin link after you have copied and pasted dmesg output
[06:34] <nickrud> tehCurtis: ok, now in the terminal, type   ps -A | grep nginx , do you get back a line with a number and nginx in it?
[06:34] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, I've rebooted and created an ext3 file system on the new raid set
[06:35] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, the raid-5 set is /dev/md1 and the partition came up as /dev/md1p1, but I had to format /dev/md1
[06:35] <tehCurtis> yup
[06:35] <tehCurtis> 2
[06:35] <tehCurtis> both with ?
[06:35] <tehCurtis> in theme
[06:35] <monte> dangermike: i posted it i dont know if i have did it right or not
[06:35] <nickrud> tehCurtis: put them up on pastebin also
[06:35] <tehCurtis> k
[06:36] <tehCurtis> nickrud:  http://pastie.caboo.se/159682
[06:36] <dangermike> monte once you paste your dmesg output into the webpage hit submit and put the link in chat
[06:36] <tehCurtis> i kill -9'em
[06:36] <dangermike> if your sending me pm's i am not getting them
[06:36] <tehCurtis> so now theyre gone
[06:36] <tehCurtis> tried uninstalling again
[06:36] <tehCurtis> same error
[06:37] <berlylabs> anyone here figured out how to get yahoo games to work on their linux and wanna help me
[06:37] <monte> dangermike: http://pastebin.com/d420c036e
[06:38] <GirlConfused> hey guys!
[06:38] <SilentDis> hello :)
[06:38] <dangermike> monte  sudo mkdir /media/external    then run sudo mount /dev/sde1 /media/external
[06:38] <nickrud> tehCurtis: ok.   gksu /var/lib/dpkg/info/nginx.prerm , put #'s at the beginning of lines 22, 24, 38 and 40 . Make sure you killall them if they are running, then try the removal again.
[06:38] <GirlConfused> I sleep too much...
[06:38] <GirlConfused> wait...
[06:38] <GirlConfused> no such thing
[06:38] <tehCurtis> nickrud:  k
[06:38] <dangermike> monte if its a ext3 formatted external drive replace the partition number with the correct one
[06:38] <dangermike> monte if its ntfs use the example
[06:38] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: ok ill see how mine goes... thanks
[06:38] <tehCurtis> nickrud: what's gksu?
[06:38] <berlylabs> anyone get yahoo games to work on ubuntu and know how
[06:39] <dangermikeAFK> tehCurtis graphical sudo
[06:39] <monte> dangermike: how do i do that
[06:39] <nickrud> tehCurtis: it's a graphical version of sudo
[06:39] <tehCurtis> ah
[06:39] <dangermikeAFK> monte from terminal...im afk for a few mins
[06:39] <nickrud> tehCurtis: never run a gui app with sudo, always use gksu
[06:39] <SilentDis> I'm hoping to find someone else that plays WoW under linux here to help me.  World Of Warcraft locks hard after about 2 seconds from login.  i've tried just about everyting in the FAQs, has anyone else encountered this issue?
[06:39] <tehCurtis> i'm just in the command line though, is that ok?
[06:39] <tehCurtis> no gui
[06:39] <tehCurtis> brand new server
[06:40] <nickrud> tehCurtis: ah, then sudo nano instead of gksu gedit
[06:40] <Gokee2_> How do I get the fix for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aumix/+bug/145805 bug?
[06:40] <monte> dangermike: u will have to pm me step by step lol
[06:40] <tehCurtis> got it
[06:40] <stdin> !away > hdevalence_afk
[06:41] <tehCurtis> nickrud: any way to turn on line numbers w/ nano?
[06:41] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, what partition name did you try to create the file system on?
[06:41] <dangermikeAFK> tehcurtis alt + c i think
[06:42] <tehCurtis> dangermikeAFK:  thanks
[06:42] <nickrud> tehCurtis: looking again, leave line 24 as is
[06:42] <diego2> Enter text here...ola com os dfjkhgfkg
[06:42] <nickrud> tehCurtis: sorry about that
[06:42] <tehCurtis> k
[06:42] <tehCurtis> no worries
[06:42] <stdin> tehCurtis: or just add "set const" to ~/.nanorc
[06:42] <tehCurtis> stdin: thanks
[06:42] <dangermike> monte did you get my pm's
[06:43] <monte> dangermike: no
[06:43] <dangermike> monte you need to register then
[06:43] <tehCurtis> nickrud: same error
[06:43] <SilentDis> brb
[06:43] <monte> dangermike: where
[06:43] <tehCurtis> i tried installing it from source but since it didn't seem to be added to my path, i installed from apt
[06:43] <nickrud> tehCurtis: put it back up on pastebin, after your edit.
[06:44] <tehCurtis> k
[06:44] <tehCurtis> could i have 2 installs that are conflicting?
[06:44]  * CROSS-CREW status: [Away: zzzzz....] [Since: 13:30-Lumajang] [AwayPager: on] [AwayLog: on]
[06:44] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: /dev/md0
[06:44] <SilentDis> :)
[06:44] <hellppmmee> damn still the same problem
[06:44] <hellppmmee> sheezz
[06:44] <tehCurtis> nickrud: http://pastie.caboo.se/159682
[06:44] <nickrud> tehCurtis: could be, how'd you do the second install?
[06:45] <tehCurtis> just sudo apt-get nginx
[06:45] <dangermike> monte /msg NickServ REGISTER password
[06:45] <dangermike> use a real password though
[06:45] <SilentDis> i founded my problem.  new version of wine in a seperate repo.  pulling now, along with the other 227mb of updates (box was down for a while)
[06:45] <nickrud> TheDreamer: what happened to the lines after 30?
[06:45] <nickrud> TheDreamer: sorry, tehCurtis what happened to the lines after 30?
[06:45] <GirlConfused> hey guys! i got the Invidia drivers installed and ready!
[06:45] <tehCurtis> ah
[06:45] <tehCurtis> they're the same
[06:45] <GirlConfused> and my windows wobble!
[06:45] <tehCurtis> just didn't include them
[06:45] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, and what was the error?
[06:45] <tehCurtis> i'll readd
[06:45] <GirlConfused> how do i tweak more of the eyecandy? :)
[06:46] <tehCurtis> nickrud:  added http://pastie.caboo.se/159682
[06:46] <dangermike> GirlConfused ccsm
[06:46] <GirlConfused> ccsm?
[06:46] <monte> dangermike: how do i do that lol i am new at this
[06:46] <nickrud> tehCurtis: you missed lines 38 & 40
[06:46] <dangermike> GirlConfused system->prefs->Advanced Desktop Effect Settings
[06:47] <dangermike> monte in irc you need to msg the NickServ and register yourself
[06:47] <Zoiks> it said something about there being a short read error
[06:47] <GirlConfused> Danger i dont have that menu?
[06:47] <dangermike> run the command i posted and use a real password instead of password
[06:47] <dangermike> click on the freenode section to see output
[06:47] <Zoiks> then when i stopped and tried to restarted the array, it said it couldnt find all disks
[06:47] <dangermike> monte
[06:47] <Zoiks> googlingtingwana: ill brb
[06:47] <dangermike> GirlConfused are you using compiz?
[06:47] <tehCurtis> nickrud:  heres the full file
[06:47] <tehCurtis> http://pastie.caboo.se/159682
[06:48] <monte> nickserv: register
[06:48] <l815> what's a good virtual machine app ?
[06:48] <dangermike> vmware
[06:48] <GirlConfused> i would imagine i am?
[06:48] <nickrud> tehCurtis: you didn't comment out 38 & 40. Also, uncomment 24
[06:48] <dangermike> virtualbox
[06:48] <mneptok> GirlConfused: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manger
[06:48] <mneptok> err
[06:48] <dangermike> mneptok thanks
[06:48] <nickrud> tehCurtis: and about your double install, if you used apt both times you only have one install, it's ok.
[06:48] <mneptok> GirlConfused: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:49] <hellppmmee> gparted also didnt see my partitions but just plain /dev/sda
[06:49] <hellppmmee> why is this?
[06:49] <dangermike> hellppmmee did you use the drop down in the upper right
[06:49] <monte> dangermike: i got it did u get reply
[06:49] <tehCurtis> nickrud: i only used apt after my first attempts with make and make install with a diff, more recent version
[06:49] <GirlConfused> it says E: couldn't find package
[06:49] <PsynoKhi0> heya, has anyone managed to get compiz working with the fglrx drivers?
[06:50] <GirlConfused> oh
[06:50] <mneptok> GirlConfused: close the terminal. open Synaptic from the System>Admin menu
[06:50] <nickrud> tehCurtis: ah. There'll be a couple more steps then, just to be sure after this.
[06:50] <GirlConfused> spelt wrong
[06:50] <dangermike> monte im afk again could be a few mins...ask in chat how to create a directory in /media and mount sde1 to that directory
[06:50] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, I deliberately failed one of the drives, removed it and re-added it so that it went into recovery mode, I was still able to create a file system on it
[06:50] <tehCurtis> k
[06:50] <tehCurtis> same error
[06:50] <mneptok> GirlConfused: use the correct spelling, then
[06:50] <GirlConfused> lol
[06:50] <GirlConfused> :)
[06:51] <monte> how do i create a directory in /media and mount sdel to that directory
[06:51] <GirlConfused> done
[06:51] <googlingtingwana> Zoiks, gotta go ... sorry I couldn't help more ... maybe try a reboot once the recovery is complete in case the partition table is not known by the kernel
[06:51] <tehCurtis> nickrud:  here's what the file now looks like
[06:51] <tehCurtis> http://pastie.caboo.se/159682
[06:51] <mneptok> GirlConfused: top GNOME panel. System > Prefs > ...
[06:51] <CVD-PR> hello
[06:51] <GirlConfused> got it
[06:51] <Dr_willis> monte,  sudo mkdir /media/whatever           then sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/whatever
[06:51] <Dr_willis> monte,  you may want to use some mount optiuons - dependiong on what you are trying to do.
[06:51] <nickrud> tehCurtis: paste the complete error from the apt-get remove
[06:52] <tehCurtis> k
[06:52] <mneptok> GirlConfused: works?
[06:52] <GirlConfused> yes sir
[06:52]  * mneptok goes for a beverage
[06:52] <ubuntufsckusr> I'm running FSCK on a partition, what should I do at this point ? Error reading block 35536987 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while reading indirect blocks of inode 17383836.  Ignore error<y>?
[06:52] <tehCurtis> nickrud:  http://pastie.caboo.se/159682
[06:52] <monte> dr_willis: so i understand the sudo but what do i put for the whatever?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> monte,  use whatever diretory name you want.  it dosent matter.
[06:53] <GirlConfused> how do i get the cube to work cause right now it just flips
[06:53] <Dr_willis> GirlConfused,  install the ccsm tool, and enable 4 desktops.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> !cube | GirlConfused
[06:53] <ubotu> GirlConfused: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[06:53] <nickrud> tehCurtis: ah, another different error now.
[06:54] <tehCurtis> syntax
[06:54] <niklas> Hey im a newb, just installed ubuntu and downloaded wine-doors. I have it on my desktop how do I install it?
[06:54] <monte> dr_willis: like what?
[06:54] <ubuntufsckusr> What is a short read error in fsck mean ?
[06:54] <monte> lol
[06:54] <neeto> How do you check the specific model of your CPU?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> monte,  how about mkdir /media/MYPORN
[06:54] <monte> Dr_willis: do i do it in the terminal?
[06:55] <monte> o lol i get
[06:55] <Dr_willis> monte,  you asked how to do it in the terminal...
[06:55] <dangermike[AFk]> monte im here breifly type this exactly into terminal as 2 seperate commands   sudo mkdir /media/external   then run sudo mount /dev/sde1 /media/external   notice that sde1 is the number 1
[06:55] <nickrud> tehCurtis: doh. uncomment 24 ,  I think you misunderstood me when I said leave as is, I meant remove the #
[06:55] <niklas> Hey im a newb, just installed Ubuntu and downloaded wine-doors. I have it on my desktop how do I install it?
[06:55] <tehCurtis> ah
[06:55] <tehCurtis> sry
[06:55] <nickrud> tehCurtis: it was staring me in the face every post you put up, I just had to look
[06:56] <frold> Any one using: mozilla-plugin-vlc - I am but I dont see any control panel so I cant go forward etc..
[06:56] <tehCurtis> new error now
[06:56] <tehCurtis> http://pastie.caboo.se/159682
[06:56] <nickrud> !language | Dr_willis (lol)
[06:56] <ubotu> Dr_willis (lol): Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:57] <niklas> Can someone help me real quick installing a downloaded program?
[06:57] <l815> what's a good virtual machine program?
[06:57] <nickrud> tehCurtis: I need to go to bed. I am obviously brain dead tonight. the simple way around all this crap I've been doing is, on line 18, put exit 0
[06:58] <tehCurtis> nickrud: lol, you're doing way better than me!
[06:58] <tehCurtis> will do
[06:59] <tehCurtis> nickrud: that worked!
[06:59] <tehCurtis> no errors!
[06:59] <nickrud> tehCurtis: make sure you've killed it
[06:59] <niklas> Just installed Ubuntu and downloaded wine-doors. I have it on my desktop how do I install it?
[07:00] <tehCurtis> oh yeah,  /usr/sbin/nginx doesn't exist
[07:00] <simplechat> floodbot?
[07:00] <nickrud> tehCurtis: next, sudo apt-get remove --purge nginx
[07:00] <tehCurtis> k
[07:01] <monte> dangermike: i put those in as u have them and they dont work
[07:01] <tehCurtis> "Package nginx is not installed, so not removed"
[07:01] <tehCurtis> so that means it's clean!
[07:01] <tehCurtis> right?
[07:01] <snypzz> PS3 UBUNTU !!!!! AWSOME>....
[07:02] <snypzz> NICE..... Computer..............
[07:02] <nickrud> tehCurtis: almost. Now, sudo updatedb . When that's done, do  locate nginx , see if there's any cruft left from your make
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Id rather have Wii Ubuntu
[07:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:02] <flowOver> whenver i install aptana into eclipse pdt with a few other extensions, it breaks it
[07:03] <tehCurtis> locate nginx brought back a few files
[07:03] <tehCurtis> maybe 40 files
[07:05] <nickrud> tehCurtis: you probably want to be sure you get rid of any that aren't in your home
[07:05] <tehCurtis> the actual "home" dir?
[07:07] <nickrud> peace at last
[07:07] <tehCurtis> woah
[07:08] <senselab> hey
[07:08] <nickrud> tehCurtis: /home/<you> , I'm assuming you compiled there
[07:08] <tehCurtis> ah, nothing in there
[07:08] <tehCurtis> some in etc/, some in usr/local
[07:09] <tehCurtis> is there anyway to remove all that locate finds?
[07:09] <nickrud> tehCurtis: the --purge removed any in /etc that apt knew about, and your /usr/local is not managed by apt. So remove them all
[07:09] <tehCurtis> k
[07:10] <tehCurtis> i'll also remove in var/lib and var/log
[07:10] <monte> dr_willis: i tried ur way but it said device not found
[07:11] <hp> what is the alternative to ubuntu? my laptop can't install it
[07:11] <mneptok> tehCurtis: you want to get rid of the database that the "locate" command uses?
[07:12] <mneptok> tehCurtis: the db that "updatedb" actually updates?
[07:12] <tehCurtis> or all the results that come up when i do "locate nginx"
[07:12] <nickrud> mneptok: no, he's removing a manual install of nginx
[07:12] <Dr_willis> monte,  i would guess you are yusing the wrong device name then. :)
[07:12] <mneptok> tehCurtis: ah. not the same.
[07:12] <tehCurtis> good to know
[07:13] <monte> dr_willis: give me the codes exact way to put them in the terminal plz
[07:13] <Dr_willis> monte,  what IS the device name you are trying to mount? i dont have ESP :)
[07:14] <Dr_willis> monte,  ' sudo mount /dev/YOURDEVICENAME /media/YourMountPoint    '  is the basics of it all.
[07:15] <tehCurtis> nickrud: cool, down to a few rc_.d/k20nginx files in etc
[07:15] <tehCurtis> i'll leave those
[07:16] <monte> dr_willis: here go here and read please http://pastebin.com/d420c036e
[07:16] <Pwhdavey> omfg
[07:16] <Pwhdavey> am I on?
[07:16] <monte> Dr_willis: this will probably help you help me lol
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> !
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> Pwhdavey: !
[07:16] <Pwhdavey> daisuke!\
[07:16] <Pwhdavey> it works
[07:16] <Pwhdavey> i am on pidgin
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> YES!
[07:17] <tehCurtis> nickrud: do you think it's safe to try to install from source again?
[07:17] <Pwhdavey> thank you so much, Daisuke
[07:17] <Pwhdavey> but for some reason
[07:17] <Dr_willis> monte,  if you want to mount /dev/sde1 then you use sudo mount /dev/sde1  /media/WHATEVERYOUWANTTOUSE
[07:17] <Pwhdavey> the little icon on the top toolbar
[07:17] <BillyJoe> my system is duel boot, is there a way to have Vbox boot my windows partition?
[07:17] <Pwhdavey> still says I have no network
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: i still hate conexant, but PFFFFFBBBLLLLTTT, i got it :P
[07:17] <nickrud> tehCurtis: personally I don't use source. myself. But if I was going to, I'd make sure I'd cleared everything first
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> Pwhdavey: if it's working, i wouldn't worry about it :)
[07:18] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  wee.. now write up a Wiki page on it!
[07:18]  * ^MissU^Mwah^Mwah waduhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lag IKs,
[07:18] <tehCurtis> i just want to use source to get the latest stable build
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> Pwhdavey: the dell driver did it for you?
[07:19] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome, by the way :)
[07:19] <ChaosParser> BillyJoe: Short answer, no.  Long answer, kinda.
[07:20] <booster_> hey guys can anyone tell me how to change the color of the menus in ubuntu. like is there a theme manager for it???
[07:20] <Daisuke_Ido> Pwhdavey: honestly, for tricky issues, irc's the way to go.  a lot of the devs hang out here (i'm not one, not by a long shot), and you generally get quicker one-on-one help
[07:20] <BillyJoe> ChaosParser: is there a webpage discribing the kinda
[07:20] <ChaosParser> BillyJoe: You could create an image of the xp install and run THAT in vbox as a virtual machine.  But the changes would be saved to that, not the actual partition.
[07:20] <ChaosParser> BillyJoe: Not really, not to my knowledge.
[07:21] <monte> dr_willis: it says something about the ntfs is marked to be in use
[07:21] <ChaosParser> booster_: Preferences>appearance
[07:21] <mneptok> !id ^MissU^Mwah^Mwah
[07:21] <mneptok> bah
[07:21] <mneptok> !id > ^MissU^Mwah^Mwah
[07:21] <Dr_willis> monte,  if windows crashes and the ntfs filesystem is flagged as needing checked -  the ntfs-3g drivers wont let it get mounted.
[07:21] <ChaosParser> monte: Did you shutdown windows wrong?
[07:21] <tehCurtis> nickrud: eff it, i'll just use what i get from apt
[07:22] <ChaosParser> monte: If so, you need to reboot, shutdown properly and go back into ubuntu
[07:22] <tehCurtis> thanks for all the help
[07:22] <nickrud> tehCurtis: generally a sane idea. See you around
[07:22] <tehCurtis> it was a good learning experience
[07:22] <tehCurtis> :)
[07:22] <Dr_willis> monte,  You may want to boot to windows and let it scan the filesystem a few times to verify its good. and then shutdown properly in windows.. and check the various linux/ntfs/ntfs-3g guides on how to properly mount a ntfs-filesystem under linux.
[07:22] <senselab> hey anyone use rosegarden here?
[07:22] <monte> Chaosparser: i dont daul boot
[07:22] <BillyJoe> No I have not gotten it to boot up yet at all.
[07:22] <senselab> or any audio programs
[07:23] <ChaosParser> monte: Okay, then in what context are we talking about an NTFS partition?
[07:23] <ChaosParser> monte: You can force it to mount, but it might screw up the file system.
[07:24] <monte> Chaosparser: thats wat it says when i try to mount it through the terminal
[07:24] <monte> chaosParser: so if i force mount it might screw up all the data on the external hardrive
[07:24] <ChaosParser> monte: Okay, what is the partition FOR?  is it just a random data partition, or?
[07:24] <ChaosParser> monte: Do you have a windows computer?
[07:25] <ChaosParser> monte: You need to connect it to windows and then 'safely remove hardware',
[07:25] <monte> Chaosparser: yea i have a windows computer
[07:25] <ChaosParser> monte: That should resolve it without risking damage to the FS.
[07:27] <nekostar> is there a command to reconfigure gnome-volume control?
[07:27] <nekostar> it controls the front speakers not the master
[07:27] <nekostar> and ther'es no real master only a pcm
[07:27] <ChaosParser> nekostar: Right click, preferences.
[07:27] <frold> Howto do something like "ipconfig /all" in Ubuntu
[07:27] <monte> chaosparser: i pluged it in to windows and it does not give me the option to unmount safely
[07:27] <ChaosParser> monte: XP or Vista?
[07:27] <monte> xp
[07:28] <ChaosParser> monte: there's no icon in the system tray by the clock?  try clicking on the little < in the tray.
[07:28] <polishkoop> I just installed cups, but I'm having trouble accesing the web interface from an outside computer.  even on the computer with cups installed, i have to do http://localhost (the ip doesnt work).  can anyone point me in the right direction?
[07:28] <kalatian> What is the command to test drive read/write speed and drive cache speed?
[07:29] <monte> chaosparser: yea i did it now plug into ubuntu
[07:29] <ChaosParser> monte: Yep, it should mount okay now.
[07:29] <monte> chaosparser: it worked thank you
[07:30] <ChaosParser> monte: you're welcome :)
[07:31] <jai> hi
[07:31] <jai> i installed ubuntu 7 days back
[07:31] <ere4si> kalatian, sudo hdparm -t and sudo hdparm -T
[07:31] <jai> and it's working good for me
[07:32] <jai> today, i wanted to read an ebook in chm format
[07:32] <mneptok> jai: sudo apt-get install gnochm
[07:32] <jai> yup, i did that
[07:32] <ere4si> kalatian, then the disk so sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda
[07:32] <jai> but this software is giving me many problems
[07:32] <jai> 1. the font sizes are very small
[07:33] <jai> 2. there is no next button on the top of the page, which i had when i was using windows
[07:33] <ChaosParser> jai: Then try the chmsee package instead
[07:34] <Kr0ntab> SO folks... I know it's sort of off topic... but being that it's really cool, and there's an Ubuntu package available...  Aazon.com just released the Linux version of the MP3 Downloader.
[07:34] <mneptok> jai: and don't expect the same buttons as Windows apps. it happens, but you have to be flexible. or stick to what you know.
[07:34] <Kr0ntab> http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/help/amd.html
[07:34] <jai> ok thanks a lot...
[07:34] <jai> i'll do it
[07:34] <kalatian> ere4si: perfect, thanks :) I used it the other day and couldn't remember then name
[07:34] <ere4si> k
[07:35] <ere4si> :)
[07:36] <Kr0ntab> now you can buy full mp3 albums from Amazon with no DRM and at the discounted price.
[07:36] <Kr0ntab> pretty sweet..
[07:36] <jai> ChaosParser: how do i download and install chmsee
[07:36] <jai> apt-get?
[07:37] <Confused> mem[Physical : 2026MB, 87.3% free | Swap : 1907MB, 100.0% free]
[07:37] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small
[07:37] <alanhaggai> jai, you can use xchm for viewing chm files.
[07:37] <ChaosParser> jai: yes
[07:37] <alanhaggai> jai, sudo apt-get install xchm
[07:38] <jai> thanks alanhaggai. i did it
[07:38] <jai> it's being download
[07:38] <alanhaggai> jai, no problem. :-)
[07:38] <cyphase> Does anyone know of an 802.11n wireless card that works in Linux?
[07:39] <jai> and wow!!! it's working awesome
[07:39] <jai> thanks a lot...
[07:39] <alanhaggai> Good. It is okay.
[07:40] <ChaosParser> cyphase: http://lwn.net/Articles/258591/
[07:40] <mneptok> cyphase: PCI? Cardbus?
[07:40] <cyphase> ChaosParser: yea, i was at that page :)
[07:40] <cyphase> mneptok: PCI
[07:41] <Pwhdavey_> it keeps disconnecting me Daisuke_Ido
[07:41] <prasanna> anyone know how to disable the keymanager that pops up at bootup?
[07:41] <Pwhdavey_> and Pidgin won't open IRC
[07:41] <prasanna> cause i've googled it, and each issue seems to make things worse
[07:41] <Pwhdavey_> but either way
[07:41] <Pwhdavey_> I am on !
[07:41] <icesword> hi
[07:41] <icesword> again
[07:41] <icesword> i am back
[07:42] <Smegzor> I have a couple of family videos that my mother took with the camera sideways (she's good with technologies).  Do any video players have a rotate video option?
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> there also appears to be a ping issue
[07:42] <tehCurtis> what's the etc/profile file for?
[07:43] <Pwhdavey_> okay?
[07:43] <ere4si> Pwhdavey_,
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> nothing major :)
[07:43] <Pwhdavey_> I am not registered...
[07:43] <Pwhdavey_> Pwhdavey on Pidgin has to get off
[07:44] <tehCurtis> i'm adding a path in there, but it's not working
[07:44] <Pwhdavey_> I can't get Pidgin to open IRC
[07:44] <Pwhdavey_> so I downlaoded chatzilla
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> Pwhdavey_: already disconnected, you can switch to that nick now
[07:44] <Benji2> mplayer has a "rotate" filter (mplayer -vf rotate=1), don't know if it's available from the gui, still..
[07:44] <Smegzor> thanks  I'll try it
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> chatzilla works
[07:44] <ronnie> Pwhdavey: irssi will be best
[07:45] <Lycus> How can I boot into Ubuntu in CLI only mode? I enabled restricted drivers for my video card and now it won't boot-up properly.
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> ronnie: no, no it wouldn't, take my word on this one
[07:45] <Gekkomon> Help!
[07:45] <ronnie> Gekkomon: what's up
[07:46] <Gekkomon> i rebooted my computer and i forgot the steps to set up the hard drive to install ubuntu again
[07:46] <ere4si> Lycus, select the recovery option at the grub prompt
[07:46] <Lycus> ok in command line
[07:46] <friedtofu> Lycus - i believe that is recovery mode -
[07:46] <Lycus> how can I disable restricted drivers
[07:46] <Lycus> was just a matter of adding -s to boot options =x
[07:46] <friedtofu> i think you can remove it..
[07:46] <ronnie> Gekkomon: live CD?
[07:46] <Gekkomon> yea
[07:46] <ere4si> Lycus, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:46] <Lycus> friedtofu: ?
[07:47] <friedtofu> as in uninstalling the restricted drivers
[07:47] <ronnie> Gekkomon: into the bios setting to let your machine run cdrom to boot time first
[07:47] <Gekkomon> im on it right now
[07:47] <mneptok> cyphase: AFAICT, the only really supported N chipset is Intel's 4965. there are Mini PCI Express cards, and you'd need an adapter for most PCI-E desktops
[07:48] <Arelis> Hi all. I downloaded something with wget (for a part) to the wrong location, and then moved it to another location, and want the download to continue. But it starts all over again.
[07:48] <Arelis> how can i make it continue?
[07:48] <tehCurtis> added export PATH=/usr/local/nginx/sbin:$PATH to my etc/profile
[07:48] <tehCurtis> but nginx -v still doesn't work!
[07:48] <Benji2> Arelis,  wget -c
[07:49] <ronnie> cool
[07:49] <ronnie> i don't know wget have suck function
[07:49] <tehCurtis> do i have to restart for changes to my etc/profile to take effect?
[07:49] <Arelis> Benji2: thanks :)
[07:49] <ronnie> :)
[07:50] <Gekkomon> all i need help with is to repartition the hard drive
[07:51] <Benji2> thatsPipe, to reload some conf file under bash, juste "source the_file" (or . the_file)
[07:51] <Benji2> dunno if it was your question, till ;-)
[07:53] <Gekkomon> can someone help me one on one in a private chat
[07:53] <LiraNuna> Gekkomon, what's the problem with the repartitioning?
[07:54] <Gekkomon> i forgot how to do it
[07:54] <LiraNuna> from live cd, use System -> Admin -> Disk Partitioner
[07:54] <LiraNuna> I think the GUI is pretty straight forward..
[07:54] <binaries-APP> Gekkomon: you should go to you partitioning tool to find ouit what your partition sheme is, tipicly to install, unix will require a partition called "/" < this slash means root. also for better performance your system should also have a partion called swap < this acts as ram
[07:55] <Benji2> there exists some "gparted" tools (on GUI).. on command-line, fdisk
[07:55] <Gekkomon> that what i forgot how to make
[07:56] <LiraNuna> Gekkomon, just use the guided partitioner from the install
[07:56] <xinel> anybody know of a program where i can transfer files between hard drives on my pc that allows me to start, stop, pause, error check the transfers?
[07:57] <Lycus> Which kernel is best to use in a dual core 64bit machine?
[07:57] <binaries-APP> Gekkomon: okay we can do this, can you tell us what other systems you would like to have on your computer ? would you like for ubuntu to be the first or second?
[07:57] <densone> xinel, rsync?
[07:57] <binaries-APP> amd64
[07:58] <xinel> i thought rsync was for making sure hard drives where copied to eachother and up to date?
[07:58] <densone> Lycus, amd64 work well for me on dual core opteron and quad core intel
[07:58] <ronnie> Gekkomon: just take a knife to partitionment your HD...good jub..
[07:58] <densone> xinel, yeah it would be good for syncing things up.
[07:58] <densone> xinel, what about scp?
[07:59] <xinel> isn't scp for transfering between networked pc's
[07:59] <LiraNuna> scp is part of ssh
[07:59] <LiraNuna> secure copy
[07:59] <xinel> i know
[08:00] <xinel> i want like a copy tool but with more options
[08:00] <Lycus> Gnash supports youtube now, right?
[08:00] <xinel> both the hard drives are in my pc
[08:00] <LiraNuna> xinel, like what?
[08:00] <densone> xinel, ok now I see , sorry. Im a server guy. Always thinking in server land
[08:00] <_Oz_> !wingrub
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wingrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <_Oz_> !grub
[08:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:00] <xinel> kinda like a getright but for linux
[08:00] <LiraNuna> wtf is getright
[08:00] <Lycus> also, densone, does nvidia have restricted drivers for 64bit?
[08:00] <Dr_willis> an  old download manager tool.
[08:01] <LiraNuna> hahaha
[08:01] <Dr_willis> used it years ago on dialup
[08:01] <LiraNuna> what's wrong with wget :P
[08:01] <xinel> :/
[08:01] <LiraNuna> xinel, or just a web browser <_<
[08:01]  * xinel bangs head against desk
[08:01] <densone> Lycus, never used anything other than a console
[08:01] <Dr_willis> It could actually 'search' for other mirrors of the file to get the same file from different sites at faster speed. :) i recall.
[08:01] <Lycus> Oh :-P
[08:01] <densone> Lycus,  Mainly dell servers, and Rackable Server
[08:02] <Lycus> I see.
[08:02] <densone> I would love to run a 64 bit desktop though for shits and giggles
[08:02] <b_ecca> hello, just new to ubuntu, i removed from panel the wireless network monitor, now i cant connect to other networks :-(
[08:02] <b_ecca> how do i get it back?
[08:03] <LiraNuna> densone, 64bit will only give you pain
[08:03] <LiraNuna> s/give/cause/
[08:03] <LiraNuna> and no speed increase
[08:03] <xinel> yeah ive only experienced pain with 64bit
[08:03] <xinel> 32 bit ftw
[08:03] <Benji2> right click / add applet , or something like that ?
[08:03] <Benji2> (the applet name is "network manager")
[08:03] <densone> LiraNuna, yeah, I can only imagine, though no my servers. I love it
[08:04] <xinel> that would have worked Benji2 but she's long gone :(
[08:04] <Benji2> haha ;)
[08:04] <densone> Only issue I really had with 64bit was Xen
[08:04] <LiraNuna> the whole idea of 64bit is 'numbers sell' :)
[08:04] <karuna_bdc> is there a way to update ubuntu in terminal?
[08:04] <RiPPeR666> hi there
[08:04] <xinel> apt-get
[08:04] <LiraNuna> karuna_bdc, sudo apt-get update
[08:04] <densone> apt-get
[08:05] <xinel> sudo apt-get update
[08:05] <xinel> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:05] <densone> whats up with all the love I have been hearing for Gentoo. Anyone here try it?
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> LiraNuna: unless of course you do any heavy video editing or have more than 4gb ram...  in those instances, 64 bit would be a plus.  for the most part though, you're right
[08:05] <karuna_bdc> LiraNuna: cool thx, i hate updating in synaptic, SO SLOW
[08:06] <xinel> meh ive tried gentoo before
[08:06] <densone> All of my systems are all 16+ GB RAM
[08:06] <xinel> but it takes forever to install things
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> densone: there's a saying.  go gentoo if you want to work ON your pc, use ubuntu if you want to work WITH your pc.
[08:06] <LiraNuna> karuna_bdc, I don't like synaptic myself
[08:06] <RiPPeR666> hi everyone ive been havin alot of troble intalling ubuntu 7.10. same problem with drivers nv and nvidia after splash screen i loose the signal to my monitor
[08:06] <LiraNuna> I always use apt-get install <> and apt-cache < temrs> myself
[08:06] <densone> Haha , Nice
[08:07] <LiraNuna> RiPPeR666, let me guess, 8800GT?
[08:07] <RiPPeR666> 7800 gt
[08:07] <xsavior> anyone here using a dell e1505
[08:07] <densone> A lot of the guys I know in the Bay Area have been preaching Gentoo. I haven't seen a reason to try it yet
[08:07] <LiraNuna> RiPPeR666, get the newest nvidia drivers from their site
[08:07] <RiPPeR666> sli got 2 of them in here
[08:07] <LiraNuna> the ones in the repos are ooooooooold and buggy
[08:07] <xsavior> can't seem to get my dell 355 bluetooth to work
[08:07] <Stonekeeper> hi there. does anyone have dual soundcards in their desktops? Gutsy is randomly choosing which card to use on bootup.
[08:08] <RiPPeR666> wouldnt apt-get install nvidia-glx-new work
[08:08] <LiraNuna> Stonekeeper, I got quad SPUs (don't ask why). you can select them with system->admin->sound & multimedia
[08:08] <LiraNuna> RiPPeR666, the 'new' isn't erally new
[08:08] <LiraNuna> *really
[08:08] <Benji2> densone, Gentoo is for very experienced user. Period. Otherwise, people install it, then complain because it lacks lots of stuffs they failed/didn't know ton install
[08:09] <Les_Caesars> is there a way I can use the ALT keycodes?
[08:09] <binaries-APP> Stonekeeper: can set that under system>preferancnes>sound
[08:09] <xinel> also it takes a long time to install anything :P
[08:09] <Les_Caesars> I need to make umlauts
[08:09] <Les_Caesars> and using the special character palette by mouse is too time consuming
[08:09] <Benji2> what chars do you want to input ?
[08:09] <densone> Benji2, thats why I love the Ubuntu Server builds. They are so minimal. I am a 100% server guy.
[08:09] <RiPPeR666> ok im still realy new at linux so how would i go by installing these drivers in terminal
[08:10] <LiraNuna> Les_Caesars, well, there USED to be a way using SHIFT+CTRL+<CODE>
[08:10] <xsavior> okay guess no help thanks
[08:10] <LiraNuna> but it seemed to have vanished since 6.10
[08:10] <LiraNuna> go figure :(
[08:10] <xinel> LiraNuna: i always wondered what happened to it
[08:10] <xinel> :/
[08:10] <Les_Caesars> darn.
[08:10] <LiraNuna> :(
[08:11] <LiraNuna> I used to abuse UTF so much
[08:11] <Benji2> out of curiosity, which char did you need this for ?
[08:11] <LiraNuna> you can still use the Char Map utility
[08:12] <blade> hi guys
[08:12] <LiraNuna> applications -> accessories -> char map
[08:12] <LiraNuna> though it's not as fast as inline typing
[08:12] <xsavior> has anyone gotten dell bluetooth 355 to work
[08:12] <LiraNuna> xsavior, why don't you ask google
[08:13] <blade> i am implemating a custom tcp/ip pile and i have a probleme with the checksum
[08:13] <blade> can someone tell me about a good packet genarator ?
[08:13] <xinel> i only came in here because the ubuntuforums and google failed me :(
[08:13] <Arelis> Guys i'm following the guide for installing Ubuntu on an USB stick with persistency but the files won't fit. Must i install them in /media/ubuntu or /media/casper-rw ??
[08:13]  * xinel shakes fist into the sky
[08:13] <LiraNuna> Arelis, what's your drive capacitY?
[08:13] <_Oz_> I have a 40gb HD with two partitions -- one for ubuntu and one for whatever.  the other one I will never use; I want to merge the two together.  how can I do this?
[08:13] <xsavior> I did google yahoo and been to every site but i don't seem to get it to work
[08:13] <Arelis> LiraNuna: 4GB
[08:13] <LiraNuna> Arelis, minimum is 1GB
[08:13] <LiraNuna> oh :S
[08:14] <Arelis> but the guide told me i had to make the partition 750MB
[08:14] <LiraNuna> Arelis, strange, I got it fit in 1GB
[08:14] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  delete the 2nd expand the first with gparted live cd. Is one way
[08:14] <jabmooli> hi....i installed ubuntu a week back and it's working great!
[08:14] <jabmooli> today i visited gnome-look.org....and it seems interesting.
[08:14] <Arelis> LiraNuna: i had to make the partition 750MB said the guide, but it's 720MB.
[08:14] <LiraNuna> jabmooli, great! now help others enjoy it :)
[08:14] <Stonekeeper> LiraNuna: i do select which crad that way. It is *always* set to my M-Audio card. However, on boot, ubuntu randomly chooses between that and my onboard sound.
[08:14] <Arelis> LiraNuna: should i put it on /media/ubuntu (the 750MB thing) or /media/casper-rw ??
[08:14] <jabmooli> but i can't understand how to use the themes available there...!
[08:15] <XmatriX> the themes u must download
[08:15] <jabmooli> there's no documentation also...
[08:15] <LiraNuna> Stonekeeper, weird, I suggest you ask in the forums
[08:15] <Stonekeeper> it seems that it ignored the card set in the system prefs menu
[08:15] <XmatriX> u can get artmanager in the synaptic
[08:15] <_Oz_> Dr_willis: must I do it with the livecd?
[08:15] <XmatriX> and browse and install themes from there
[08:15] <LiraNuna> Arelis, the casper-rw is for the kernel
[08:15] <_Oz_> Dr_willis: doesn't the ubuntu 7.10 cd have gparted on it?  I could use that, no?
[08:15] <Stonekeeper> I've searched the forums :/
[08:15] <jabmooli> yes, i downloaded them, the tar.gz files
[08:15] <Arelis> LiraNuna: so it's for syslinux etc etc?
[08:15] <XmatriX> then go to your prefrences and you can customize your theme
[08:15] <LiraNuna> Arelis, yes
[08:15] <jabmooli> and opened the theme manager
[08:15] <Arelis> LiraNuna: all the files from the livecd?
[08:15] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  you cant resize a partition that you got mounted..  no idea whats on the ubuntu cd. I use a gparted-livecd  normally.  Try it and see.
[08:15] <Arelis> LiraNuna: because i've been copying it to /media/ubuntu
[08:15] <LiraNuna> the 750MB one is /media/ubuntu
[08:15] <XmatriX> go to appaerance
[08:16] <XmatriX> and click install
[08:16] <Arelis> LiraNuna: so that was the wrong one?
[08:16] <jabmooli> but for some of the files it says," they are not valid files"
[08:16] <_Oz_> Dr_willis: where can I get/create a gparted livecd?
[08:16] <_Oz_> !gparted
[08:16] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[08:16] <_Oz_> never mind
[08:16] <_Oz_> :)
[08:16] <LiraNuna> Arelis, it worked fine here, just my NEW motherboard doesn't support USB boot <_<
[08:16] <densone> Anyone here ever install ubuntu server on a dell array with raid10?
[08:16] <XmatriX> hm im not to sure
[08:16] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  a new version was just released today. Saw it on disrtowatch web site
[08:16] <XmatriX> most of the themes that ive been downloading work
[08:16] <XmatriX> im not to experienced at ubuntu
[08:16] <Arelis> LiraNuna: that sucks for you.. so i need to copy it to casper-rw and NOT /media/ubuntu ??
[08:17] <XmatriX> mayber an expert user can help you out with that one
[08:17] <_Oz_> thanks dr
[08:17] <_Oz_> thanks Dr_willis
[08:17] <LiraNuna> Arelis, casper-rw is for the kernel
[08:17] <jabmooli> so where should i go for help...or any webpage suggestion for that
[08:17] <Arelis> LiraNuna: i thought it was for saving data
[08:17] <LiraNuna> Arelis, getright
[08:17] <LiraNuna> er
[08:17] <LiraNuna> tf
[08:17] <LiraNuna> Arelis, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[08:17] <XmatriX> ubuntu forms are awsome
[08:17] <XmatriX> go on google
[08:17] <slnoff> огромный всем приветище!!!!
[08:17] <XmatriX> and search ubuntu themes
[08:17] <xinel> jabmooli: www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:17] <slnoff> всех с Первым Днем Весны!!! Ура,товарищи!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[08:17] <Arelis> !themes
[08:17] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:17] <Myrtti> !ru | slnoff
[08:17] <ubotu> slnoff: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[08:17] <LiraNuna> XmatriX, art.gnome.org is better
[08:17] <XmatriX> and the first couple links will be form the ubuntu forms
[08:18] <Myrtti> !english | slnoff
[08:18] <ubotu> slnoff: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:18] <XmatriX> yes i told him he can get it from synaptic
[08:18] <Arelis> LiraNuna: i thought it was for saving data?
[08:18] <slnoff> ooops
[08:18] <XmatriX> gnome look is my favourite
[08:18] <LiraNuna> Arelis, "Type mkfs.ext2 -b 4096 -L casper-rw /dev/sdx2 to format the second partition"
[08:18] <slnoff> it is not my channel.... exuse me
[08:18] <LiraNuna> err
[08:19] <LiraNuna> what's wrong with my clipboard
[08:19] <jabmooli> is there any channel related to gnome-look.org?
[08:19] <Arelis> LiraNuna: heh :P
[08:19] <LiraNuna> guh
[08:19] <XmatriX> im not sure, first time on this chat
[08:19] <LiraNuna> it's too late and I'm tired
[08:19] <XmatriX> i wish i could help u out more ;)
[08:19] <xinel> its 5pm here
[08:19] <xinel> :)
[08:19] <XmatriX> LOL
[08:19] <XmatriX> its 3 am here
[08:19] <LiraNuna> jabmooli, #gnomelook @ irc.gnome.org
[08:20] <XmatriX> im tired as well
[08:20] <xinel> im dancing
[08:20] <Arelis> LiraNuna: what did you want to paste?
[08:20] <xinel> :P
[08:20] <slnoff> well.....
[08:20] <slnoff> hi here!
[08:20] <LiraNuna> Arelis, I don't remember, I'm too tired
[08:20] <LiraNuna> lol, sorry
[08:20] <Arelis> LiraNuna: alright, sleep tight :)
[08:20] <LiraNuna> night
[08:20] <xinel> nighty night
[08:20] <slnoff> My congratulation!!!! The sprin come in now!!!!!!
[08:20] <XmatriX> pz
[08:20] <slnoff> *spring
[08:20] <LiraNuna> /kick slnoff jerk
[08:21] <crystal> ºÃ
[08:21] <Myrtti> LiraNuna, slnoff tut-tut
[08:21] <binaries-APP> !kick
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <LiraNuna> I got operator status in #ubuntu / EFnet
[08:21] <slnoff> !fuck LiraNuna  himself video
[08:21] <Myrtti> LiraNuna: woo
[08:22] <Myrtti> !language | LiraNuna, slnoff
[08:22] <ubotu> LiraNuna, slnoff: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:22] <LiraNuna> excuse me?
[08:22] <shell> hello
[08:22] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[08:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:22] <XmatriX> lol ubotu
[08:23] <binaries-APP> uBOTu
[08:23] <Stonekeeper>  LiraNunathanks. I've found something
[08:23] <XmatriX> is there a download channel
[08:24] <XmatriX> for aps and stuff
[08:24] <XmatriX> ?
[08:24] <Dr_willis> XmatriX,  why would you need that?
[08:24] <RiPPeR666> sry to bother you guys but how after i dowdload the new nvidia drivers from the site how doi install them in termanal and can i same the drivers on usb and access them in terminal
[08:24] <wols_> why would there? just use synaptic
[08:24] <Dr_willis> XmatriX,  and ubotu  is a bot. not a person
[08:24] <XmatriX> i kno
[08:24] <XmatriX> it just a funyn name
[08:24] <wols_> RiPPeR666: ubuntu comes with perfectly find nvidia drivers
[08:24] <XmatriX> so theres no download channel?
[08:24] <Dr_willis> RiPPeR666, its best to use the restricted-manager tool to install the dirvers. NOT downloading them from the site.
[08:24] <Dr_willis> XmatriX,  Theres no need for one.
[08:24] <wols_> XmatriX: downloading WHAT?
[08:24] <XmatriX> or file sharing channel?
[08:25] <wols_> !nvidia | RiPPeR666
[08:25] <ubotu> RiPPeR666: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:25] <Dr_willis> XmatriX,  Theres no need for that either.
[08:25] <XmatriX> y not?
[08:25] <RiPPeR666> i wish canyt get past boot splah screeen
[08:25] <wols_> !warez | XmatriX
[08:25] <ubotu> XmatriX: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[08:25] <binaries-APP> RiPPeR666: google ndiswrapper
[08:25] <xinel> hahaha
[08:25] <RiPPeR666> have to do everyting in teminal
[08:25] <Dr_willis> XmatriX,  why shold there be? theres plenty of ftp sites and stuff to get the Ubuntu iso files and packages LEGALLY
[08:25] <xinel> auto assumes its illegal
[08:25] <kosnick> sorry to mention this thing here but i need to ask how can someone register to a channel ? ##c requires registration so that someone can speak there
[08:25] <binaries-APP> RiPPeR666: what a now re you using right
[08:25] <wols_> binaries-APP: what for? did he ask about a wlan driver/chip?
[08:25] <XmatriX> yea tru
[08:26] <XmatriX> i was just curious
[08:26] <binaries-APP> RiPPeR666: what are you using now
[08:26] <XmatriX> i know how to get shiet
[08:26] <XmatriX> but not on mirc
[08:26] <RiPPeR666> xp
[08:26] <ste-foy> Can we talking aboth ubuntu here ?
[08:26] <wols_> XmatriX: top that talk RIGHT NOW. or you will get banned or even k-lined
[08:26] <ompaul> !windows | XmatriX
[08:26] <ubotu> XmatriX: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[08:26] <Dr_willis> XmatriX,  mIRC is one specific irc client. :)  this is not 'mirc'
[08:26] <wols_> *stop
[08:26] <overdub> gag me with an end user licence
[08:26] <RiPPeR666> me=newb to linux
[08:26] <wols_> RiPPeR666: does the live CD work for you?
[08:26] <RiPPeR666> so far not fun
[08:26] <_Oz_> stick a PUEL in me, I'm done
[08:27] <Kuroachia> can anyone help me with getting my ipod touch filled with music?
[08:27] <RiPPeR666> nope i have to use the alt cd to install
[08:27] <xinel> RiPPeR666: its all fun dude :)
[08:27] <wols_> RiPPeR666: is xorg installed?
[08:27] <xinel> its how u learn
[08:27] <RiPPeR666> yep
[08:27] <wols_> RiPPeR666: the alt CD doesn't install X by default
[08:27] <wols_> RiPPeR666: what drivre do you use in X? and how do you start X?
[08:27] <Dr_willis> Huh? The alternative isntaller cd DOES install X.
[08:27] <Dr_willis> The server cd does not.
[08:28] <wols_> Dr_willis: mea culpa
[08:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:28] <kosnick> Does anyone know how can i register to a channel?
[08:28] <RiPPeR666> i have xorg.conf
[08:28] <Dr_willis> kosnick,  /msg nickserv help
[08:28] <wols_> kosnick: /msg chanserv help
[08:28] <nickrud> !register | kosnick
[08:28] <ubotu> kosnick: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[08:28] <Myrtti> !register | kosnick
[08:28] <wols_> kosnick: you cannot register to
[08:28] <wols_> RiPPeR666: pastebin it. also your Xorg.0.log
[08:28] <ompaul> RiPPeR666, GNU/Linux is not a replacement it is an alternative operating system, i.e. you have been thought how a machine is restricted, now learn how it can be released!
[08:28] <kosnick> thx for the tips
[08:29] <wols_> ompaul: my linux replaces windows vrey well and is therefore a replacement
[08:29] <RiPPeR666> im tring dude been exploing all nite kinda fun
[08:29] <wols_> just like windows canreplace linux for some
[08:29] <RiPPeR666> found out how to turn my sli on by messing around the last hour
[08:29] <ompaul> wols_, I don't need the functionality of windows, I need the functionality of a GNU/Linux system (and hiya)
[08:29] <wols_> rolf_: since you are on windows, do you have explore2fs or such to access your linux partition?
[08:30] <wols_> RiPPeR666: ^^
[08:30] <fqhuy> hi there, anyone have expriences with ncomputing x300 and ubuntu, please help me something
[08:30] <kosnick> h
[08:30] <tokyoahead> hi guys... I just want to install 7.1 on an empty HD in my system. Problem is that I have several identical HDs... In "computer", I can see the mounted volume I wantto install to, but in the partition preparation I cannot match it since they are called /dev/sda etc instead of the mount name... how can I match those?
[08:30] <b_ecca> hello got dcd, need help again, just new to ubuntu, how do i get back the wireless monitor? coz i removed it from panel and now cant connect to other networks :-(
[08:31] <fire360> wikipedia says --> "The target computer is shut down (Sleeping, Hibernating or Soft Off, i.e. ACPI state G1 or G2), with power reserved for the network card. " Question, that's not REAL shutdown then, so why would need to wake it up?
[08:31] <RiPPeR666> well i only got 1 rigg and dual boot with ubuntu right now so its been alot of fun tryin to go back and forth trying diff thing to get it to load
[08:31] <nickrud> b_ecca: you removed the network applet, or the notification area?
[08:31] <wols_> RiPPeR666: since you are on windows, do you have explore2fs or such to access your linux partition?
[08:32] <RiPPeR666> nope
[08:32] <Dr_willis> !ext3 | RiPPeR666
[08:32] <ubotu> RiPPeR666: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[08:32] <wols_> RiPPeR666: then get it
[08:32] <Dr_willis> RiPPeR666,  or explore2fs - is a similer tool. :)
[08:33] <b_ecca> i think so
[08:33] <b_ecca> @nickrud
[08:33] <b_ecca> coz i cant see the thing wherein you right click it then you could see networks in your area
[08:33] <RiPPeR666> kool ill download that rite now
[08:33] <nickrud> b_ecca: first try running  alt-f2 nm-applet , do you see it?
[08:34] <Buyydee> I'm using Gutsy x64 on a Thinkpad T61p and would like to establish a connection to a VPN server. When I let network-manager try and do this, it asks for passwords, then it takes some time, then it reads "VPN Connect Failure. Could not start the VPN connection 'xx' due to a connection error. The VPN login failed because the VPN program could not connect to the VPN server" My first idea was a firewall issue, so I tried to ping the server, su
[08:34] <Myrtti> Buyydee: you got cut off
[08:35] <Myrtti> Buyydee:  "to ping the server, su"
[08:35] <Buyydee> My first idea was a firewall issue, so I tried to ping the server, successfully however. Does someone have an idea on how to tackle this problem?
[08:35] <shres> hey, I have an interesting situation i use lilo but everytime i update the kernel, the new entry is added to grub/menu.lst by apt.
[08:35] <b_ecca> (nm-applet:9934): WARNING **: <WARN>  nma_dbus_net_properties_cb(): dbus returned an error.
[08:35] <b_ecca>   (org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.NetworkNotFound) The requested network does not exist for this device.
[08:35] <shres> how do i change this?
[08:35] <tokyoahead> guys I want to partition my HD but I dont know which to pick since they are identic types.. the target one has mount point /media/new volume but in the partionaer they are called /media/sdb1 etc... how do I know which is which?
[08:36] <Frogzoo> Buyydee: use tcptraceroute on the port you want
[08:36] <nickrud> b_ecca: do you see the applet on the bar? (that's just a warning you got there)
[08:36] <ompaul> Buyydee, well you have to tell people what vpn software you are using
[08:36] <toxop1asma> questions: how do diff words instead of lines?
[08:36] <b_ecca> oh nope
[08:36] <b_ecca> i dont see it @ nickrud
[08:36] <toxop1asma> to*
[08:37] <Pwhdavey_> someone eradicate Pwhdavey
[08:37] <Buyydee> ompaul: vpnc
[08:37] <b_ecca> nickrud i just accidentally removed the network monitor on the panel
[08:37] <nickrud> b_ecca: ok, next try  right clicking the panel, add to panel , and then add the notification area
[08:37] <wols_> Pwhdavey_: no one can. register your nick and do it yourself next time
[08:37] <b_ecca> i think theres a way to get it back but i dunno
[08:37] <Pwhdavey_> Daisuke_Ido: If you're there, that was my connection cutting out again.
[08:37] <Pwhdavey_> It could happen again anytime.
[08:38] <b_ecca> i see it thanks a lot nickrud
[08:38] <nickrud> b_ecca: there's no remove from panel on the nm-applet, it's handled differently. If it's running, it shows up in the notification area (if it exists)
[08:38] <Nereos> hi
[08:38] <b_ecca> thanks for the tip
[08:39] <RiPPeR666> ok i installed http://www.fs-driver.org
[08:39] <ompaul> Buyydee, don't know it at all, if it is a config issue as it is cisco stuff perhaps OpenVPN would help
[08:39] <RiPPeR666> now i got 2 drives f and h one is the swap
[08:39] <wols_> f is your ubuntu?
[08:40] <Buyydee> ompaul: My university gives a step-by-step configuration tutorial with pictures :) for ubuntu gutsy, I should be fine there.
[08:40] <ompaul> Buyydee, well then they may do more support for it ;-)
[08:40] <Newbuntu2> hello
[08:40] <RiPPeR666> idono the drives are empty how do i see whats on the ext2 partition
[08:41] <binaries-APP> :ls
[08:41] <Buyydee> ompaul: Well, tell me what you might need to know, I'll look it up. The vpnc error message is not very informative however.
[08:41] <Newbuntu2> how can I set up my box to allow VNC logins right after booting up?
[08:42] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,   You mean to share the current running desktop? or to spwan a vnc session in the background?
[08:42] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small
[08:42] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,  you can set up vnc as a service to allow it to  spawn as needed.
[08:42] <iva1> Hi all, Having trouble with Mounting volume of external hard drive after upgrade, anyone help?
[08:42] <Daisuke_Ido> unfortunately, it's now almost 4 in the morning, and i have an appointment at 11 :\
[08:42] <nekostar> is there a command to reconfigure gnome-volume control? it controls the front speakers not the master and ther'es no real master only a pcm
[08:42] <ompaul> Buyydee, - I only use OpenVPN it overcomes a myriad of problems
[08:42] <Daisuke_Ido> so i must take my leave.
[08:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll be back tomorrow :D
[08:43] <Newbuntu2> I'm using the box headless... but for the moment I need a monitor & keyboard hooked up so that I login after boot, and only then can I use VNC
[08:43] <Newbuntu2> Dr_willis: how do I do that?
[08:44] <Buyydee> ompaul: Can I connect to a cisco-system with openvpn?
[08:44] <iva1> anyone know how to mount a NTFS external drive???
[08:44] <lucypher> Hi, I've moved my root from a partition to another, thet problem is that update-grub uses the old partition in menu.lst
[08:44] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,   You could just ssh in, and run 'vncserver' that would be the easiest way
[08:44] <lucypher> How can I change it?
[08:45] <ompaul> Buyydee, no, but there are three clients on ubuntu for what you want to do: vpnc network-manager-vpnc  kvpnc you may find them interesting and / or useful
[08:45] <Buyydee> ompaul: I'm using vpnc with network-manager-vpnc
[08:45] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,  headless = No monitor and no keyboard/mouse.  You can install ssh, and remotely controll the box easially enough.     Then you can set up vnc however you like.  I tend to use the 'vnc4server' package
[08:46] <Newbuntu2> Dr_willis: how do I set ssh to accept connection after booting?
[08:46] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,  it should accept as far as ive seen.. i never had to do anything special after installing the ssh service
[08:46] <wols_> Newbuntu2: as soon as it's started it does
[08:46] <Dr_willis> You will need to install the ssh service of course.
[08:47] <patrickchapman> I can not get my audio to work in xawtv nor mythtv
[08:47] <Newbuntu2> and once I ssh in, I run vnc4server? or is that a separate service?
[08:47] <Dr_willis> vncserver is the name of the service. Theres variants on it. I INSTALL vnc4server to get 'vncserver'
[08:47] <Dr_willis> !vnc
[08:47] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:48] <Dr_willis> install vnc4server, make a users .vnc/xstartup file to launch the window manager you want, run vncserver, connect.
[08:48] <Dr_willis> you may want to use a real light window manager with vnc, I always use 'jwm'
[08:51] <Newbuntu2> what's the difference between tightvnc and vnc4server?
[08:52] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,  little things. I just tend to use vnc4server
[08:52] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small
[08:53] <patrickchapman> Can someone help me to get the audio working on xawtv or mythtv
[08:53] <phizzy> I know this is stupid question
[08:53] <phizzy> but how do you install a network card added after you installed
[08:53] <phizzy> ifconfig doesn't show anything about new nic
[08:53] <phizzy> so I am assuming it didn't install
[08:54] <Seidel_> njour à tous !
[08:54] <Dr_willis> phizzy,  this is a normal wired nic?
[08:55] <phizzy> yes
[08:55] <phizzy> generic I think though
[08:55] <phizzy> but normal 100mb pci nic
[08:56] <flowOver> how can i get the newest nvidia drivers that were released this week?
[08:56] <phizzy> Dr_willis: nod
[08:57] <Dr_willis> phizzy,  you may need to load the right module for it. but it should show up in ifconfig
[08:57] <phizzy> just shows my main nic
[08:57] <phizzy> should I plug in my cable modem and see if i get connection maybe?
[08:57] <phizzy> brb
[08:57] <david> morn
[08:58] <co_g> imoet
[08:58] <patrickchapman> Can anyone help me to get the audio to work on xawtv or mythtv?
[08:58] <Newbuntu2> Dr_willis: I got it to connect, but I get a nasty window manager. How do I start the default window manager??
[08:59] <david> is there some solution to a "remote CD/DVD burner" ? say Id want to have a burner on a linuxboxen in my kitchen via USB-cable or whatnot and use that in some nifty way over the network
[08:59] <david> (weird idea of the day)
[08:59] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,  i said earlier to exit the .vnc/xstartup to run what you want. :) i perfer jwm
[08:59] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,  the default is twm i belive
[09:00] <Dr_willis> edit the .vnc/xstartup in the users home dir.. be sure to kill vncserver with 'vncserver -kill :1' after editing it. and restart vncserver, Or else you will spawn a 2nd vncsession
[09:00] <co_g> imoet
[09:00] <phizzy> back
[09:00] <phizzy> yeah no luck
[09:00] <phizzy> if it helps
[09:01] <phizzy> I know fedora linux seen the nic right away Dr_willis
[09:01] <Newbuntu2> Dr_willis: what is gnome started as? gnome? or gdk? (This is over 100 ethernet, and for rare use, so I don't want to bother with a lightweight windowmanager yet)
[09:01] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,  gnome-session , i belive. and ive found Gnome to be rather sluggish over the network this way.
[09:02] <Dr_willis> Newbuntu2,  ive had some quirks with gnome and kde both over vnc.
[09:02] <Dr_willis> thats why i use jwm :)
[09:02] <phizzy> Dr_willis: anything?
[09:03] <Dr_willis> phizzy,  you may need to load the right module. You could boot up a live cd. see if that sees it.. if so jot down what modules its loading.
[09:03] <Newbuntu2> Dr_willis: ah, perfect! works great! Thanks!!!!
[09:04] <icesword> what version of gnome does 6.06 use
[09:04] <phizzy> meh just going to do clean install of ubuntu(installed it today anyways(and hopefully it seems both nics))
[09:05] <Dr_willis> phizzy,  heh. thats a little overkill..
[09:05] <phizzy> using live cd isn't an option
[09:05] <phizzy> out of blank cds
[09:05] <Dr_willis> phizzy,  if you boot the installer cd. use lsmod, and see what it sees.
[09:05] <phizzy> and downloaded text mode 1
[09:05] <Dr_willis> the alt- cd has a console. you can do lsmod in. :)
[09:05] <david> make livecd partition?
[09:06] <phizzy> kk
[09:06] <phizzy> but what do I take from that just write down what it saids for that nic if it sees it?
[09:07] <phizzy> I am assuming lsmod only shows installed hardware?
[09:08] <patrickchapman> Can someone help me to get the audio to work in xawtv or mythtv? I can get get random noise but I can not hear a TV channel.
[09:09] <phizzy> well work @11 and 4am now
[09:09] <phizzy> getting sleep night
[09:11] <ubuntu> Hi all. I'm in Ubuntu on a pendrive now but i can't log in to the graphical part of Ubuntu, it says that .ICEauthority is not accesible. I tried changing the permissions on it but it didn't help
[09:11] <ubuntu> how do i fix that?
[09:12] <Arelis> Hi all. I'm in Ubuntu on a pendrive now but i can't log in to the graphical part of Ubuntu, it says that .ICEauthority is not accesible. I tried changing the permissions on it but it didn't help
[09:12] <Arelis> how do i fix that?
[09:12] <RiPPeR666> ok hi
[09:13] <booster_> can anyone in here help me install my USB gamepad....im running gusty 7.10....and the pad shows up in joystick cal.
[09:13] <Jayzer> Arelis: don't repeat your question like that
[09:13] <Jayzer> but
[09:13] <Arelis> Jayzer: sorry, had to change names
[09:14] <RiPPeR666> ok ive been having a problems with looding x after boot splash sreen goes away i loose the signal to my monitor
[09:14] <Dr_willis> booster_,  what game ya tryign to use it with?
[09:14] <Jayzer> can you go to your home directory, and do ls -al and paste the line that has .ICEauthority?
[09:14] <Jayzer> or just tell me the user and group set for the file
[09:14] <booster_> Dr_willis, im tring to use it with SNES EMU
[09:14] <Arelis> Jayzer: Sure. it's --rw------ <-- Strange, the permissions haven't changed
[09:15] <Jayzer> that's not the whole line
[09:15] <Jayzer> hmm
[09:15] <Jayzer> you mean you tried to change permissions but it didn't work?
[09:15] <booster_> Dr_willis, do you use gamepads??
[09:16] <Jayzer> how did you go about chmod'ing the file?
[09:16] <Arelis> Jayzer: I tried again. I see, every time i log into gnome, it makes it only user-read-writeable. Whatever permissions i set on it, gnome ruins it.
[09:16] <Arelis> Jayzer: "chmod 777 .ICEauthority"
[09:16] <Jayzer> ok
[09:17] <Buyydee> I tried around a little but my vpn still isn't able to connect. Here's a summary of the problems and what I did so far: I'm using vpnc with network-manager-vpnc to connect to a cisco-vpn. Upon connect, I get an error, that no connection to the server could be established. I successfully pinged the server. I tcptracerouted the server on port 80 (www). It might be a problem with my router, a Siemens Se551.
[09:17] <Jayzer> odd
[09:17] <Buyydee> that's why I'm here :)
[09:18] <Arelis> Jayzer: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls -al .ICEauthority
[09:18] <Arelis> -rw------- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 161 2008-03-01 09:01 .ICEauthority
[09:18] <RiPPeR666> i have isntalled the new drivers "nvidia-glx-new" and changed xorg.conf from driver setting nv to nvidia but is still doesnt make it
[09:18] <bullgard4> Is 'speak' a discontinued Ubuntu command? (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2006-September/001129.html)
[09:18] <Jayzer> RiPPeR666: have you tried the restricted drivers manageR?
[09:19] <Buyydee> RiPPeR666: try going to system, administartion, restricted drivers manager and enabling it there
[09:19] <Jayzer> or is that what you were referring to?
[09:19] <RiPPeR666> i cant load x
[09:19] <Arelis> Jayzer: can you help me further?
[09:19] <Jayzer> yeah, i'm seeing what i can do...i'm not as experienced as others here, i'm sure
[09:20] <patrickchapman> Can anyone help me get the audio to work on xawtv or mythtv. I can output random noise on /dev/dsp but I can not get the sound from a TV channel.
[09:20] <booster_> can anyone in here tell me the correct way to install a USB gamepad ???
[09:20] <RiPPeR666> just installed alt disk because after boot splash it lost signal
[09:20] <Jayzer> can you chmod the file and then ls -al so we i can see the permissions?
[09:20] <mateusz> java: xcb_xlib.c:82: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed.
[09:20] <mateusz> any help ?
[09:20] <Jayzer> ignore the "we" in that sentence
[09:20] <mateusz> is there a fix for java /
[09:20] <mateusz> ?
[09:20] <RiPPeR666> so now i got umbutu installed but cant get into GUI "x"\
[09:21] <icesword> RiPPeR666, what is up
[09:21] <Buyydee> RiPPeR666: upon login, does ubuntu ask you something about drivers?
[09:21] <Jayzer> mateusz: have you googled it?
[09:21] <Jayzer> i didn't look very hard, but i found this:
[09:21] <Jayzer> http://daveshuck.instantspot.com/blog/2008/01/29/cxliblock-failed-error-on-Java-applications
[09:21] <RiPPeR666> nope
[09:21] <void^> mateusz: yes, http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6532373
[09:21] <Jayzer> not sure if it's applicable
[09:21] <david> xconfigure?
[09:21] <david> or what its called in linux again :B
[09:22] <Buyydee> RiPPeR666: can you download new packages?
[09:22] <RiPPeR666> yea
[09:22] <RiPPeR666> via apt-get
[09:22] <void^> mateusz: in short, set LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true
[09:22] <Buyydee> RiPPeR666: try and download envy and let this install and configure your nvidia-drivers
[09:22] <Arelis> Jayzer: sure
[09:22] <Buyydee> RiPPeR666: it will do it all on its own - fixed a similar problem for me
[09:22] <Arelis> Jayzer:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls -al .ICEauthority
[09:22] <Arelis> -rwxrwxrwx 1 ubuntu ubuntu 161 2008-03-01 09:01 .ICEauthority
[09:22] <Jayzer> ok
[09:22] <Jayzer> 777 is a little overkill
[09:22] <Jayzer> but
[09:23] <RiPPeR666> hmmm
[09:23] <Jayzer> try going into X now?
[09:23] <RiPPeR666> ok how do i install evey in terminal??
[09:23] <nanbudh> guys i am trying to format an ipod the command return this output: mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[09:23] <nanbudh> mkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sdb' (use -I if wanted)
[09:24] <Buyydee> RiPPeR666: sudo apt-get -install envy
[09:24] <Arelis> Jayzer: Already did. Changes the permissions to user rw
[09:24] <Jayzer> pl
[09:24] <Jayzer> er..
[09:24] <Jayzer> ok
[09:24] <ePax> What is the difference between sudo su and su -i ?
[09:25] <icesword> is there anyway or any guide to let ubuntu 7.10 use less resource?especially mem
[09:26] <Buyydee> RiPPeR666: Then use sudo envy -t to get into the shell interface and install the nvidia-driver
[09:26] <s> any program where i can chat and use webcam
[09:26] <icesword> is there anyway or any guide to let ubuntu 7.10 use less resource?especially mem
[09:26] <RiPPeR666> ok
[09:26] <icesword> PLZ,anyone
[09:27] <RiPPeR666> ill see what i can do buyydee
[09:27] <Buyydee> RiPPeR666: let it do everything on its own, also configuration
[09:27] <simplexio> icesword: havent' seen any
[09:27] <RiPPeR666> thanx
[09:27] <icesword> could be
[09:27] <nanbudh> guys please help me format ipod.  the mkfs.vfat command is not working.
[09:27] <ere4si> icesword, try a lighter window manager like fluxbox, firefox uses alot of mem - try epiphany or even dillo, turn off eyecandy
[09:27] <icesword> i think
[09:27] <Anthony_Schneide> Hello everyone! I have ubuntu_studio and a little problem with it. I have chosen 1600x1200 resolution, but everytime I reload, it sets to 1280x1024 and I have to change it back manualy every time. Can you suggest a solution, maybe a sctipt that will change it automatically? Thanks!
[09:27] <Flannel> ePax: sudo -i is equivalent to sudo su -, sudo -s is equivalent to sudo su.  You should use the sudo-only versions and not the sudo su versions.
[09:28] <Jayzer> Arelis: so it just knocks you out of X and gives you that error message?
[09:28] <bullgard4> Is 'speak' a discontinued Ubuntu command? (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2006-September/001129.html)
[09:28] <simplexio> icesword: you can play with swappines on overcommit flags in /proc/ or was it /sys/ cant remember
[09:28] <s> any program where i can chat and use webcam
[09:28] <Flannel> ePax: But, those are, for the most part, not really useful, because sudo itself takes care of 99% of the cases.
[09:28] <ePax> Flannel: When i need to login as root what should i use? Not sudo su?
[09:28] <Flannel> ePax: Why do you need to login as root?
[09:29] <icesword> ere4si, yeah,the problem is if i don't pass gnome,can i stop some service,i got so many background service running in default
[09:29] <ePax> Flannel: Not that i need to but i do need  to login as root some times. What command shall i use?
[09:29] <Arelis> Jayzer: Deleting .ICEauthority fixed it!
[09:30] <ere4si> icesword, there is an app named sysv-rc that will let you do that - but be careful what you disable
[09:30] <Flannel> ePax: Well, under normal circumstances you wont.  But `sudo -i` will work fine.
[09:30] <Jayzer> haha, awesome
[09:30] <Jayzer> i was almost going to consider telling you that
[09:30] <Flannel> bullgard4: No, I don't believe so.  That person was compiling it from source.
[09:30] <Arelis> Jayzer: now i just need to add that to a startup script so it deletes it every time it boots
[09:30] <Jayzer> but i thought you might have had a reason for keeping that file around
[09:31] <Arelis> Jayzer: no.
[09:31] <ePax> Flannel: Ok... In cases i needed to login as root i used sudo su,... But ill try to remember to use su -i :D Thnx
[09:31] <Arelis> Jayzer: will .bashrc be run when i login using the display manager?
[09:31] <Flannel> ePax: not su -i, sudo -i
[09:31] <ePax> oki
[09:32] <bullgard4> Flannel: Thank you very much for you information.
[09:32] <Jayzer> Arelis: don't believe so
[09:32] <Flannel> Jayzer, Arelis, you don't need to delete Xauthority all the time.  It shouldn't be causing issues under normal operating conditions.  Do you run graphical commands using sudo?
[09:32] <Jayzer> it will only run when you open bash
[09:32] <brahmaputra> Hi all!
[09:33] <Arelis> Flannel: I run my system from a pendrive. This is the first time i do that, and i just installed it on that. It works using casper-rw and is just like a persistent livecd.
[09:33] <Arelis> Flannel: so yes, i DO need that
[09:33] <david> anyone tried webCDwriter ?
[09:33] <Arelis> Jayzer: so that means when the system boots? (every time it boots, it logs into the shell)
[09:34] <Flannel> Arelis: You shouldn't need to delete it each time, no.  Since it shouldn't be causing problems with permissions (because under nomral circumstances, it works fine).  It usually causes problems after invoking graphical programs using sudo (instead of gksu or kdesu)
[09:35] <Flannel> Arelis: that is, unless the pendrive is doing something odd that I'm not aware of (should be identical to a regular system)
[09:35] <Arelis> Flannel: I've checked the page on liveusb installing, and i've seen comments about people experiencing the same problem. It is even a well-known bug (the .ICEauthority bug)
[09:35] <Flannel> Arelis: Alright, bugs are bugs
[09:35] <Arelis> Flannel: :) i should post the fix though
[09:36] <Arelis> where can i post it?
[09:36] <Flannel> Arelis: the wiki that mentions the bug would be a good place
[09:36] <Arelis> Flannel: must i create an account for that?
[09:37] <Flannel> Arelis: If you don't already have one, yeah
[09:37] <leangjia> 有说中文的吗？
[09:37] <lingzehong> 有
[09:37] <leangjia> O
[09:37] <leangjia> 原来还有呀｀
[09:37] <leangjia> so yes, i DO need that
 anyone tried webCDwriter ?
[09:37] <leangjia> 说的是啥？
[09:37] <Anthony_Schneide> I have ubuntu_studio and a little problem with it. I have chosen 1600x1200 resolution, but everytime I reload, it sets to 1280x1024 and I have to change it back manualy every time. Can you suggest a solution, maybe a sctipt that will change it automatically? Thanks!
[09:38] <leangjia> 我不懂回答这个？号`
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> !en | leangjia
[09:38] <ubotu> leangjia: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:39] <leangjia> 设置成默认的分辨率就行了。
[09:39] <Flannel> !cn | leangjia, lingzehong
[09:39] <ubotu> leangjia, lingzehong: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[09:39] <leangjia> You need to set default.
[09:40] <leangjia> wiki里有详细的教程，她可以教你如何设置分辨率的，
[09:41] <simplexio> icesword: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-memory.html not ubuntu specifed
[09:41] <lingzehong> leangjia I know.Please put in English.
[09:42] <Newbuntu2> hello
[09:42] <Ors> Hi there, Is there a way to install any kind of ubuntu with 256 RAM?
[09:43] <Newbuntu2> I have a new issue: how do I use my webcam in ubuntu? camorama only looks in /dev/device0....
[09:43] <Jayzer> Arelis: you might want to read up on this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[09:43] <Stonekeeper> hey can anyone recommend a wireless headset for gaming? cheers.
[09:43] <Jayzer> you typically put startup scripts in /etc/init.d/
[09:43] <Stonekeeper> actaully i want it for making musci too so nothing cheap :)
[09:44] <Newbuntu2> it's supposed to use the spca5xx driver; but when I plug it into the usb port, the power light flashes for a fraction of a second and then stays off....
[09:44] <simplexio> Ors: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[09:46] <icesword> ere4si, thx
[09:46] <bazhang> Stonekeeper: you might try #hardware for that
[09:46] <icesword> simplethx
[09:46] <icesword> simplexio, thx
[09:47] <Arelis> Flannel: what do you think of this script? (is it safe?):
[09:47] <Arelis> echo >> .bashrc
[09:47] <Arelis> echo "# This makes GNOME work" >> .bashrc
[09:47] <Arelis> echo "rm .ICEauthority 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null" >> .bashrc
[09:47] <ere4si> icesword, working better?
[09:48] <icesword> ere4si, i haven't try it,as you see,you said be careful what to disable
[09:48] <Stonekeeper> ok
[09:48] <ere4si> k
[09:49] <jscinoz> do any 3d benchmarks exist for linux?
[09:49] <Stonekeeper> they will know it's ubuntu compat?
[09:49] <anacaona> hello everyone. how do i find out what my gateway is? my wired network is in roaming mode.
[09:49] <dibz> route -n
[09:50] <patrickchapman> Can someone help me get the audio to work on xawtv or mythtv? I can get random noise on /dev/dsp but no sound from any TV channel.
[09:50] <josh_> hey
[09:50] <bazhang> Stonekeeper: you can also check /msg ubotu hcl for the hardware compatibility list
[09:50] <Joshyboy> I need some help
[09:50] <Stonekeeper> ooh thanks
[09:50] <anacaona> thanks dibz!
[09:50] <dibz> np
[09:50] <Joshyboy> whenever I install something from the Synaptic Package Manager
[09:50] <Ors> simplexio: I think xubuntu will be my choice then
[09:50] <Joshyboy> I'm not sure where it goes
[09:50] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport Stonekeeper
[09:51] <Newbuntu2> does anyone know how to recognize a webcam?
[09:51] <Dr_willis> !webcam | Newbuntu2
[09:51] <lingzehong> quit
[09:51] <ubotu> Newbuntu2: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:51] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: built in or external
[09:51] <Stonekeeper> yeah, that assumes you know specifically what you're looking for.
[09:52] <Newbuntu2> external; its supposed to use the spca5xx driver
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Joshyboy: It doesn't "go" in any one place.
[09:52] <Joshyboy> whenever I install something from the Synaptic Package Manager
[09:52] <Joshyboy> I'm not sure where it goes
[09:52] <Joshyboy> oh where do I go to access it than?
[09:52] <tokyoahead> guys do I _need_ the boot manager to boot my system or not?
[09:52] <Newbuntu2> but var/log/messages just says it's a new device using ehci
[09:52] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: what model name and number
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Joshyboy: Most things will get added to the menu somewhere.
[09:52] <Newbuntu2> creative live!
[09:52] <Joshyboy> I know I can't find it though...
[09:52] <Joshyboy> it's BitchX
[09:52] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: just a second
[09:53] <dibz> Joshyboy  you whereis which or find
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Joshyboy: otherwise, you can try running it from a terminal, but putting in the first few letters of it's name and hitting tab a few times.  Anything in particular you're wondering about?
[09:53] <Newbuntu2> It's listed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx
[09:53] <binaries-APP>  Newbuntu2: you can type >lspci in the terminal to show a list of hardware
[09:54] <bazhang> http://www.linuxlove.org/2007/11/12/linux-webcam-microsoft-lifecam-nx-6000-on-ubuntu-and-fedora/ Newbuntu2 the creative live is on the list there with instructions on how to get it working
[09:54] <Newbuntu2> lspci shows the usb controllers, but not the webcam
[09:55] <Joshyboy> sorry froze up on me
[09:55] <Joshyboy> so where would I go if I have installed BitchX
[09:56] <tokyoahead> guys can someone help me with installation? Do I need to install the boot manager? and what does HD0 mean? is that a partition on the current HD or another?
[09:57] <Giddykong> heya all
[09:57] <Joshyboy> are you running vista or xp?
[09:57] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small
[09:57] <bazhang> tokyoahead: you have already begun the installation?
[09:57]  * syc_ brb
[09:57] <icesword> tokyoahead, you from japan,hd0 means your first disk
[09:58] <tokyoahead> bazhang: I have 4 HDs and installed the 7.1 form the livedisk w/o boot manager because I was afraid it would damage my XP boot (happened before)
[09:58] <Giddykong> just curious on compiz wasnt there a raised window feature when you rotate the cube?
[09:58] <tokyoahead> bazhang: so now the ysstem wont boot for linux
[09:58] <icesword> tokyoahead, hd0,0 is your first primary partition on first disk
[09:58] <tokyoahead> icesword: so on SDA1?
[09:59] <icesword> maybe or hda1
[09:59] <tokyoahead> icesword: dont have that, only have SDA, SDB etc
[09:59] <jscinoz> should i be noticing a quality loss converting mp3 128kbit to ogg 256kbit?
[09:59] <icesword> tokyoahead, ok what is up
[09:59] <jscinoz> because ic ant tell the difference
[09:59] <tokyoahead> but the question is: how cnaI get thesystem to boot
[10:00] <tokyoahead> it wont boot into linux if I set the linux HD to be the primary in Bios
[10:00] <icesword> tokyoahead, wait,where is grub
[10:00] <icesword> tokyoahead, or whatever the loader
[10:00] <Anthony_Schneide> hello! i have installed tuxguitar, and while running it have the following error : anthony@anthony-desktop:/usr/bin$ tuxguitar
[10:00] <Anthony_Schneide> /usr/bin/tuxguitar: 21: /usr/local/opt/java/jre/bin/java: not found
[10:00] <Anthony_Schneide>  Can you suggest a solution? thanks!
[10:01] <binaries-APP> tokyoahead: there is an option on the install cd, which allows you to select directly what youd like to do, you can boot from the cd, cancle the installation and simply install the grub boot loader to the mbr ( master boot record )
[10:01] <icesword> tokyoahead, if you like ,add my msn yang8639ok@hotmail.com
[10:01] <Anthony_Schneide> PS I have hardy 8.04 alpha 5
[10:01] <tokyoahead> icesword: dont run msn
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> Anthony_Schneide: Hardy help in #ubuntu+1
[10:01] <bazhang> Anthony_Schneide:  you should join #ubuntu+1 then
[10:02] <tokyoahead> binaries-APP: if I install linux on the HD that is the boot one in bios, should it not boot w/o grub?
[10:02] <Anthony_Schneide> you think this error can be cause of Alpha 5 distro?
[10:02] <bazhang> not on topic here Anthony_Schneide
[10:03] <Anthony_Schneide> ok, thanks! I will ask the same there!
[10:03] <icesword> tokyoahead, you need to give us more details
[10:05] <patrickchapman> Can anyone help me to get the audio to work on xawtv or mythtv? I can get random noise on /dev/dsp but not sound from a TV channel.
[10:05] <tokyoahead> icesword: ok  Ihave 4 HDs, 2 with data, one empty one with XP on it. I installed 7.10 on the empty one after havinf set it to the primary one in the bios. I did not install the boot loader because I thought I do not need it. I also had several times that the boot loader crashed my windows completely, so I wanted to boot from linux by swithing the primary in bios instead of using the bootloader; But still if I set the linux HD as primary boot disdk in 
[10:05] <binaries-APP> tokyoahead: the master boot record will only recognise windows installations, ubntu is unix therefor its boot option will not be shown in the mbr; aside from that the boot sheme has no idea that there even is another os on your system
[10:06] <binaries-APP> tokyoahead: for this reason it is nesseccary to install an alternative boot loader to the mbr
[10:06] <icesword> tokyoahead, so it seems that grub (loader) is not available on any of your disk,right
[10:06] <tokyoahead> binaries I get it.
[10:07] <tokyoahead> icesword: yeah. can I install it on a different HD than the SDa1 where XP is? I would not want to risk that system
[10:07] <icesword> tokyoahead, if you like,you can use windows' ntldr boot linux,is that you want
[10:08] <tokyoahead> icesword: welll it sounds better than grub since I had to reinstall XP in the past 2 times after installing grub :-)
[10:08] <tokyoahead> icesword: can I install the NTLDR w/o reinstalling XP? how do I install that?
[10:09] <icesword> tokyoahead, you know there is a file called "grub4dos",and your windows have a boot.ini
[10:09] <tokyoahead> icesword: where is that grub4dos?
[10:09] <icesword> tokyoahead, you just add e.g.c:\grldr=ubuntu
[10:10] <icesword> tokyoahead, www.sourceforge.net,search grub4dos
[10:11] <Newbuntu2> bazhang: I tried that, didn't work
[10:11] <Newbuntu2> (the USB webcam)
[10:11] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: you compiled that with build-essential?
[10:11] <Newbuntu2> I believe so
[10:12] <Arelis> how do i make ubuntu do things at bootup?
[10:12] <tokyoahead> icesword: thanks I will try this one
[10:12] <Newbuntu2> yes, I have build-essential installed. the compilation etc all worked
[10:12] <icesword> tokyoahead, then you need to creat a menu.lst by your own
[10:12] <Newbuntu2> it's just when I plug it in, it sees it as an ehic device and leaves it at that.
[10:13] <apurva> hi!
[10:13] <binaries-APP> Arelis: >system >preferances > preferd applications
[10:13] <bazhang> arelis add them to your session startup
[10:13] <Newbuntu2> uvc didn't jump in and grab it
[10:13] <Arelis> bazhang: no, i mean the system bootup
[10:13] <bazhang> arelis like what
[10:13] <tokyoahead> icesword: I will try to get teh details from the grub4dos hoepage
[10:13] <apurva> i am having problems with NVIDIA on my new Ubuntu 7.1 install
[10:14] <apurva> help help help!
[10:14] <bazhang> apurva calm down
[10:14] <icesword> tokyoahead, ok
[10:14] <Arelis> bazhang: I want to have some things happen at bootup, i want it to do my fix when it boots, and i want to copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.radeon to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:14] <apurva> hi bazhang
[10:14] <kalatian> apurva: could you give us more info? for instance, what is wrong?
[10:14] <apurva> i installed nvidia drivers using Envy
[10:15] <kalatian> wait
[10:15] <kalatian> !envy | apurva
[10:15] <ubotu> apurva: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[10:15] <Newbuntu2> how do I check that I have the spca5xx drivers installed??
[10:15] <apurva> should i uninstall the dirver then?
[10:16] <bazhang> apurva envy uh oh.
[10:16] <apurva> u r scaring me.... did i do something wrong using envy?
[10:17] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small
[10:17] <bazhang> apurva ayup
[10:17] <apurva> what should i do now?
[10:17] <Arelis> bazhang: I want to have some things happen at bootup, i want it to do my fix when it boots, and i want to copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.radeon to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. So how do i do that?
[10:18] <bazhang> apurva you should install via the restricted drivers manager--how recent is this install? best to back up important data just to be safe
[10:18] <patrickchapman> Can anyone help me to get the audio to work on xawtv or mythtv? I can get random noise from /dev/dsp but not sound from a TV channel.
[10:18] <bazhang> arelis you want what things to happen at startup please be precise
[10:18] <apurva> ok
[10:18] <icesword> where is the other gus
[10:18] <icesword> guys
[10:18] <yatna> hi
[10:19] <apurva> then i should uninstall th driver?
[10:19] <Newbuntu2> anyone know how I check if I have the spca5xx driver installed/running?
[10:19] <Bad_boy> Guys, I have a problem with firefox, it will down close automatically every 2-3 mins? what could the problem
[10:19] <yatna> how can i install maya on unbuntu
[10:20] <Arelis> bazhang: Alright. I want it to delete /home/ubuntu/.ICEauthority and /home/ubuntu/.ICEauthority-c at bootup, and i want it to copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.radeon (it's a customized version of the xorg.conf) to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. The reason for that all is that i'm running it on a pendrive and deleting .ICEauthority fixes a problem with logging in (so i can't get in gnome unless that happens), and i want to copy that config because it fixes a lot o
[10:21] <apurva> i uninstalled the driver using sudo envy --uninstall-all
[10:22] <apurva> how do i proceed now?
[10:23] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy might a plugin you've got installed. do you have any, or is it a fresh install of firefox. and what version of firefox are you using?
[10:23] <apurva> the restricted drivers box shows NVIDIA not enabled (check box empty) and "in use" with a grreen light
[10:24] <apurva> hey bazhang... u there?
[10:24] <icesword> Bad_boy, yeah,that is it,try to disable  any suspicious plugin
[10:24] <bazhang> apurva you have the restricted driver manager?
[10:24] <apurva> yes
[10:24] <bazhang> Arelis: that sounds quite complex, well beyond anything I could comment on
[10:24] <apurva> the restricted drivers box shows NVIDIA not enabled (check box empty) and "in use" with a grreen light
[10:25] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small
[10:25] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: I have just re-installed it now, looks like no problem at the moment the only plugin from flash fro 64 bits i installed last week
[10:25] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy are you using their beta release?
[10:27] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: how do i knowt it's better, I just used package manager to installed. OOps it just closed down again
[10:27] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman:  what the hell is happening
[10:27] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy if you used the package manager, then it's what's shipped with ubuntu, unless you've enabled backports or added other repositories.
[10:28] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy try opening up a terminal, and launching firefox from there, that is, type firefox and press enter in a terminal. when it quits, it'll probably give you some helpful error message.
[10:28] <giby> ciao
[10:29] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman:  I am a newbie, so I do not what I added in repositories
[10:29] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy if you haven't messed with it, then it's good :).
[10:29] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg apurva try this in the terminal and choose nvidia as the driver and not nv
[10:30] <Newbuntu2> can anyone help me get my webcam going?
[10:30] <yatna> hi
[10:30] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: firefox from terminal no problem , load up, let see if it closes in the next few minustes
[10:30] <Newbuntu2> it's a creative live!; it uses the spca5xx drivers
[10:30] <yatna> any cad users
[10:30] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: it closes
[10:31] <Newbuntu2> however, when I plug it in, it is just added as a ehci device, but nothing adds it as a video device
[10:31] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy yes, but when you run it from a terminal, any abnormal termination should give you an error message in the terminal.
[10:32] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy did it exit telling you about any problem?
[10:32] <giby> sorry men!but how function for download the file?
[10:33] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: i did close the terminal afterwards, so did read. Now i have opended and type firefox, i wiat to see the errors
[10:33] <giby> this is a programme that is possible take the file?
[10:33] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy ok. don't close the terminal :) you need to see what the errors are.
[10:34] <BlackOpal> heya people
[10:34] <giby> hi!
[10:34] <giby> how are you?
[10:34] <BlackOpal> good thanks
[10:35] <BlackOpal> this is the first time for me to try using IRC to get aome info
[10:35] <bazhang> giby could you be more precise please
[10:35] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:35] <giby> in which place you write?
[10:35] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy nothing else?
[10:35] <icesword> BlackOpal, aome info?
[10:35] <Bad_boy>  had this problem  2 weeks ago, I had to-reinstalll
[10:35] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy is there something you do with firefox that crashes it, or a web site that specifically makes that happen?
[10:35] <BlackOpal> sorry *some
[10:35] <bazhang> giby you have a support question? this is not a chatty type channel
[10:35] <giby> ..ok bad_boy..my question is,with this programm is possible download the file?
[10:36] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy does it only happen with firefox or have you noticed similar behaviour with other applications?
[10:36] <Sinnerman> giby what file?
[10:36] <bazhang> giby what file
[10:36] <Newbuntu2> where do source files get downloaded to?
[10:36] <BlackOpal> does anyone here have experience making LOTRO work with wine
[10:36] <rhineheart_m> won't it create issue if dovecot and postfix are both running in a mailserver?
[10:36] <Sinnerman> Newbuntu2 how are you downloading them?
[10:36] <giby> no no.only water;.)
[10:36] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: nothing special, I am on internet all the time for work, use mostly firefox
[10:36] <Newbuntu2> via synaptic
[10:37] <icesword> BlackOpal, ah,you are playing with wine,why not #wine
[10:37] <Bad_boy> giby:  no prob with other soft
[10:37] <Giddykong> how do ya run konsole as admin?
[10:37] <giby> is possible but probably this evinign and not in the morning
[10:37] <Giddykong> or terminal
[10:37] <Bad_boy> giby:  Yes, i could download files yesteday pdf
[10:37] <Sinnerman> Newbuntu2 the packages you download usually go into: /var/cache/apt/archives, but im not sure where the .deb files extract the source files. /usr/src maybe?
[10:37] <icesword> Giddykong, no,it is not recommended,try sudo instead
[10:38] <Giddykong> k thanks
[10:38] <giby> and how is possible?with wich comand?
[10:38] <Giddykong> not used to ubuntu :P
[10:38] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy sure, but anything specifically that crashes it, or is it completely random?
[10:38] <icesword> !easy
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: last i got segmentation, firefox stop loading up completely. I did mentteest for 16 hours, no errors
[10:38] <bazhang> giby do you have an actual question?
[10:38] <BlackOpal> icesword, whats the difference between the two
[10:38] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy no problems with other applications i take it?
[10:39] <icesword> BlackOpal, you mean sudo ,
[10:39] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: this started an hour ago, closes down a few a minutes
[10:39] <icesword> !sudo > BlackOpal
[10:39] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: no prob with any other software
[10:39] <GodWing> anybody has tried installing Oracle RAC in ubuntu here?
[10:39] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy i'm out of ideas. maybe one of the other guys will be able to tell you more.
[10:40] <fire360> who big is ubuntu's repository? i want to download a big portion of it for an non-internet machine
[10:40] <GodWing> I just wanna know whether Ubuntu is compatible for installing Oracle or not?
[10:40] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman:  maybe i need a complete removal of firefox
[10:40] <GodWing> according to info, Oracle is certificated to Redhat, Suse and Asianux only
[10:40] <bazhang> http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html GodWing
[10:40] <BlackOpal> icesword, yes i know of sudo use it reguarly, but how does that help me with running Lotro with wine
[10:40] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: WHAT'S  THE COMmand for that
[10:40] <GodWing> thanks bazhang
[10:41] <icesword> bazhang, where are other guys,btw ,i am net installing 7.10 now,though not sure if it will boot on my machine:(
[10:41] <bazhang> np
[10:41] <Giddykong> hmm has anyone else had trouble with installing skype on ubuntu 7.10?
[10:41] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy well, in synaptic, located the firefox package, and mark it for complete uninstallation.
[10:41] <bazhang> icesword: not sure; it is still early am for most of them ;] what issues are you having?
[10:41] <icesword> BlackOpal, yeah,wine is not the end solution for windows programs,sometimes we use virtual machine
[10:42] <icesword> bazhang, no,i haven't ,i just talk to you
[10:42] <BlackOpal> icesword, ah ok so like virtual box? you reccommend any
[10:42] <bazhang> vmware-server and vbox both will do it BlackOpal
[10:42] <icesword> BlackOpal, yeah,virtualbox is free,also qemu
[10:42] <BlackOpal> icesword, thanks, im goning to have a play
[10:43] <GodWing> bazhang... it's just XE edition... what I want to know is RAC (grid Computing) ORacle?
[10:43] <goldenfox> hello everyone
[10:43] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: Cheers for that, I did not have any prob with 32 bits on this Quad core, but i have $GB ram so, i decided to move 54 bits gutsy
[10:43] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy and if you're feeling intrepid and really want a clean slate, and lose your bookmarks, go into your home directory and delete the firefox folder inside the .mozilla folder. i wouldn't recommend that. really, before you do that, you might want to create another username, log in as that username, and see if it still causes problems.
[10:43] <patrickchapman> Can anyone help me to get audio to work on xawtv or mythtv? I can get random noise on /dev/dsp but no sound from any TV channels.
[10:43] <goldenfox> i have a question regarding X-Chat. How can I put xchat in the notification area like pidgin?
[10:43] <bazhang> GodWing: there may be someone here that knows--you can also take a look at ubuntuforums
[10:43] <lsw> 잉..
[10:44] <Dr_willis> goldenfox,   theres a xchat extra tool that does that.
[10:44] <GodWing> thanks bazhang
[10:44] <Dr_willis> !find xchat
[10:44] <ubotu> Found: xchat-gnome, xchat-gnome-common, xchat, xchat-common, xchat-guile (and 2 others)
[10:44] <GodWing> :) I appreciate it so much
[10:44] <goldenfox> Dr_willis: thanks a lot :)
[10:44] <Dr_willis> goldenfox,   xchat-systemtray or somthing i think.
[10:44] <juelz> if /dev/sda2 is my / partition, the line containing "root" in the menu.lst of grub should be "(hd0,1)"?
[10:44] <lsw> 어허....
[10:44] <Dr_willis> goldenfox,  i dont know if it works or not. :) but i think thats the tool
[10:44] <goldenfox> thank you very much Dr_willis
[10:44] <goldenfox> i will try it
[10:44] <bazhang> goldenfox: I just right click the panel and add the applet
 i am new to linux. is there some program i can install through package manager to format harddrives or anything?
[10:45] <goldenfox> cool
[10:45] <Newbuntu2> how do I install spca5xx?
[10:45] <Dr_willis> oops
[10:45] <Dr_willis> xchat-systray - xchat systray notification icon
[10:45] <yettenet> Hello there. I was wondering how I could set my locales to en_US.iso-8859-1. Any ideas?
[10:45] <Dr_willis> wrong paste buffer. :)
[10:45] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: all my bookmark get synchronised, with foxmark on-line automatically to share on my computers, so i can my bookmarks back :)
[10:45] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy i don't think the memory is the determining factor on whether to use a 32- or 64-bit OS. The processor should be. It does not affect how much memory is used or not as far as i know, but probably affects the efficiency with which your system runs.
[10:45] <goldenfox> Dr_willis: thanks again
[10:45] <kraypius> is there anyone who might want to help me 1 on 1 with bind/dns on this server for some paypal?
[10:46] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy well, try making another user first (clean profile kind of thing) and see. if that solves your problem, then it's a per-user setting in firefox that you've set.
[10:46] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: this is a new computer, and did a memtest fro 14 hours, no erros at all
[10:46] <Sinnerman> anyway. i gotta step out for a bit.
[10:46] <Sinnerman> back later.
[10:46] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: cheers bud
[10:46] <Sinnerman> Bad_boy well, not faulty hardware then. :) software will crash occasionally even on linux.
[10:46] <Sinnerman> well good luck anyway.
[10:46] <shres> hey, would you know if the grub on feisty (0.97) is compatible with mac os x?
[10:47] <shres> the debian wiki says the version > 0.97-10 is
[10:47] <bazhang> krayplus best to do it in channel--ask your specific question and if anyone knows they will answer ;]
[10:47] <shres> but how do i know the minor version of grub installed
[10:47] <icesword> shres, haha,mac has its own loader
[10:47] <patrickchapman> Can anyone help me to get audio to work on xawtv or mythtv? I can get random noise from /dev/dsp but not sound from a TV channel.
[10:47] <shres> icesword: i am dual booting
[10:48] <Bad_boy> Sinnerman: c u around thanks anyway
[10:48] <shres> icesword: i have it working with lilo right now
[10:48] <kraypius> hrm i dont where to begin with configuring bind
[10:48] <shres> and i want to shift to grub
[10:48] <icesword> shres, grub>version
[10:48] <[TIE]Sentinel> im trying to install ubuntu, but it seems to crash (stall) after the part where it tells me that it can't find my graphics drivers and gives me generic ones instead,  any ideas anyone?  (quite possible that the crash is unrelated to graphics drivers, although it did also crash at the same spot when I tried to 'test' with the correct drivers)
[10:48] <shres> icesword: doesnt give me minor version. only 0.97
[10:48] <rhineheart_m> what's the best client for php mail() function?
[10:49] <SpentRocket> Why do you want to shift to grub shres? lilo works fine
[10:50] <jpatrick> rhineheart_m: best try #php
[10:50] <jpatrick> err
[10:50] <KyleSloderbeck> Error : Desktop effects cannot be enabled? Any help would help. :)
[10:50] <shres> SpentRocket: well, i just completely fscked lilo because i forgot to update after building my version of the kernel :-)
[10:50] <rhineheart_m> jpatrick: thanks..
[10:50] <david> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ is nice :)
[10:50] <david> hehe. just found it
[10:51] <shres> SpentRocket: lilo update is brain dead, it thinks my hard disk is raid right now.
[10:51] <BillyJoe> I mounted my windows partition via sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows I would like this to be in my /etc/fstab but I looked in there and it is asking for more info then I understand, could some one point me to a good website to help exsplane this or give me a pointer?
[10:51] <bazhang> ;]
[10:51] <jpatrick> david: might want to talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[10:51] <ere4si> !fstab | BillyJoe
[10:51] <ubotu> BillyJoe: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:52] <BillyJoe> ere4si thank you
[10:52] <ere4si> k
[10:52] <EnvoyRising> I'm having trouble recording via sound recorder
[10:52] <BillyJoe> wow this is a rock solid site. thank you very much
[10:52] <SpentRocket> Yes shres, if you forget to run lilo after kernel changes it renders you non-bootable, all you need to do to get in is boot from some other media, cd for example, or another linux partition that DOES still boot, mount your broken one, chroot to it and then run lilo, all will be fixed again :-)
[10:53] <Giddykong> ... would you guys recomend installing ubuntu 7.04 over 7.10?
[10:53] <bazhang> nay
[10:53] <EnvoyRising> no matter what input I select, I can't record anything
[10:53] <mavi-> Giddykong: yeah
[10:53] <Giddykong> >.< ok
[10:53] <shres> SpentRocket: true, a few steps i would rather avoid :-)
[10:53] <mavi-> or wait for the next version
[10:54] <Giddykong> i cant get many apps to run
[10:54] <Giddykong> apps that i want :P
[10:54] <EnvoyRising> speaking of next version - hardy alpha 5 broke my system >.<
[10:54] <Giddykong> skype is the main 1
[10:54] <Giddykong> well thanks guys gonna go download 7.04 now and isntall it
[10:54] <mavi-> in 7.10 my keyboard doesnt work correctly, and cant hibernate
[10:54] <SpentRocket> shres: I've only just joined this thread, what problems are you having with grub?
[10:55] <KyleSloderbeck> Help! Tried multiple things to fix this but have no idea whats wrong. "desktop effects cannot be enabled" - I installed 915 Resolution.
[10:57] <patrickchapman> Can _anyone_ help me to get audio to work on xawtv of mythtv? I can get random noise from /dev/dsp but not sound from any TV channel.
[10:58] <SpentRocket> Is it a fairly old computer you're attempting this on KyleSloderbeck?
[10:58] <rhineheart_m> how to know if courier-Imap is running?
[10:58] <KyleSloderbeck> Acer Aspire 5570Z
[10:59] <SpentRocket> Speed, available memory KyleSloderbeck?
[10:59] <KyleSloderbeck> 1.66 duo core. 100gigs free spaces. 1gig ram.
[11:01] <SpentRocket> Golly okay KyleSloderbeck, you should be okay ... I'll think and get back to you
[11:01] <patrickchapman> This is my first time on IRC. Is it normal to ask the same question for hours and get _absolutely_ no response from anyone?
[11:01] <Dr_willis> patrickchapman,    when asking very specific questions like that - often NOone on here knows.
[11:02] <KyleSloderbeck> Another thing is that it didn't recognize the wide screen and was at 1024 x 768 to start with. But thank you SpentRocket.
[11:02] <Dr_willis> patrickchapman,  there is a Ubuntu-mythtv channel also
[11:02] <patrickchapman> oh, ok. Thank you Dr_willis
[11:02] <Dr_willis> patrickchapman,  i dident even think /dev/dsp was used  any more as an audio device.,
[11:03] <patrickchapman> ill try again on some other day. Is there a better address to ask questions about audio problems?
[11:04] <Dr_willis> patrickchapman,  audio is only failing for those programs?
[11:04] <dave^^> Im having trouble installing ubuntu, can anyone help?
[11:04] <Buyydee> Hi. I would like to launch the following command with a launcher, what exactly do I have to enter in the fields?: export MATLAB_JAVA=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre && matlab &
[11:04] <patrickchapman> correct
[11:05] <patrickchapman> The audio works when I select an example audio file.
[11:05] <Dr_willis> patrickchapman,    the mythtv guys might be able to help you. It could be an issue with the tv tuner card also. Picture works but no sound?
[11:05] <patrickchapman> I have a picture in both xawtv and mythtv but no sound.
[11:07] <dave^^> I guess I'll stick with XP then :(
[11:07] <Leafman> :o
[11:08] <SpentRocket> It sounds like it's missed your video card setup KyleSloderbeck, I asked you if you were running an old computer meanwhile what you've got there is quite new ...  I'm new to Ubuntu but old at Linux, have a look at the "Device" section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, does what you see there look reasonable?
[11:08] <thannoy> Buyydee: for my own, I would have past those line in a file name run_matlab.sh for example, giving it the x right for user (chmod u+x file), and then link this file for the launcher
[11:08] <Leafman> dave what would be the problem? (prob can't help but won't hurt if i try? lol)
[11:08] <dave^^> Leafman: the install process seems to crash
[11:08] <dave^^> or hang
[11:08] <Leafman> =/
[11:08] <buozzi> hi
[11:08] <thannoy> Buyydee: maybe adding a line "#!/bin/bash" as a first line of the file could help too
[11:09] <dave^^> early on it tells me that it can't find the drivers for my graphics card
[11:09] <buozzi> list!
[11:09] <KyleSloderbeck> i'll look real quick
[11:09] <Buyydee> thannoy: what would the text for the sh file look like? i'm not into scripting... i suppose first line as you just said and second line just as my command with out the & at the end?
[11:09] <Leafman> yeah compatibility issues, think i got those too lol
[11:09] <dave^^> then I either choose drivers and click 'test' or I tell it to continue with generic drivers - either way it goes back to the text screen and just hangs
[11:09] <dave^^> the last thing I see is something like "loading startup scripts  DONE"
[11:09] <dave^^> or maybe it was running startup scripts DONE
[11:10] <thannoy> Buyydee: that it. (and no '"' for my line)
[11:10] <Buyydee> thannoy: ok, i'll try that
[11:11] <Leafman> well don't think i can help you there, have you tried searching *the name of your computer* instal ubuntu or something?
[11:11] <KyleSloderbeck> Spentrocket: I can't seem to find that file...
[11:11] <dave^^> yeah, can't see anything
[11:11] <dave^^> thanks for trying anywy
[11:12] <SpentRocket> /etc/X11 (That's X one one ) / xorg.conf not there?
[11:12] <Leafman> what computer are you trying to install it on btw?
[11:13] <larson9999> hp
[11:13] <larson9999> my guess
[11:13] <thannoy> SpentRocket: try   locate xorg.conf   to find it
[11:14] <SpentRocket> Thanks thannoy, I know where it is, I'm trying to help somebody else find it .. it should be nowhere else :-)
[11:14] <thannoy> SpentRocket: and yes, mine is in /etc/X11
[11:14] <thannoy> SpentRocket: sorry, was doinf=g two things at the same time
[11:14] <KyleSloderbeck> SpentRocket : Can't seem to find it.. in the terminal correct?
[11:15] <simplexio> SpentRocket: man xorg.conf tell over 10 "default" places where X trys to find it
[11:15] <OomElvis> Q: i downloaded the ubuntu 7.10 ISO, but hate having to download tons of packages via the internet. will it be fine if i download some of the bigger [~4gb] debian ISOs which have lots of packages and use those under ubuntu?
[11:16] <SpentRocket> Yes KyleSloderbeck, from your tty terminal ... if you do ls /etc/X11 ?
[11:16] <KyleSloderbeck> SpentRocket : It says is a directory.
[11:16] <adaptr> so true
[11:17] <KyleSloderbeck> lol
[11:17] <simplexio> OomElvis: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/get-ubuntu-repositories-on-dvd.html , http://www.howtoforge.com/dvd_images_of_ubuntu_repositories
[11:18] <adaptr> OomElvis: ubuntu != debian
[11:18] <danand> OomElvis - no. you cannot use packages off of the debian dvd for ubuntu. you can buy ubuntu dvd's instead. see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase
[11:18] <adaptr> so no, you cannot use the normal debian repos with ubuntu
[11:18] <OomElvis> why cant i download the repositories?
[11:18] <kalatian> is it possible to use font smoothing with rdesktop?
[11:18] <OomElvis> too much BW?
[11:21] <danand> OomElvis - why bother? you'll never need _all_ of those packages. the benefit of downloading packages off the net is you only get what you need. the cd has most of the packages you will require.
[11:21] <OomElvis> nevermind
[11:21] <OomElvis> cool
[11:21] <OomElvis> thanks for the help
[11:21] <OomElvis> ciao
[11:22] <Bad_boy> guys, I am loads of problems with firefox, it keeps crashing after a minutes. I have done a complete removal of firefoc re-install again, still the same thing : I am getting this from the terminal : firefox
[11:22] <Bad_boy> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:22] <Bad_boy> (npviewer.bin:7289): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_detach: assertion `style->attach_count > 0' failed
[11:22] <Tyczek> I have problem with Skype... beta and stabil... It worked few days ago... but now after looging it is crashing and freezing... so I have to reboot whole system...
[11:22] <SpentRocket> KyleSloderbeck: type view /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:23] <cosimo_> italian?
[11:23] <kalatian> !it | cosimo_
[11:23] <ubotu> cosimo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:23] <Leafman> Hey I have a question, I'm using a live cd for ubuntu atm (installed version went a bit crazy) and i want to try something that would need me to reboot. Is there a way to save xchat to usb stick so i don't have to keep downloading it for live cd?
[11:23] <cosimo_> grazie :)
[11:23] <tokyoahead> guys I changed my screen and how after reboot I have all wierd lines on my screen, hoe can I switch w/o seein what I do?
[11:24] <KyleSloderbeck> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57916/ that's what came up.
[11:24] <kalatian> Bad_boy: closing firefox, opening a terminal and running mv .mozilla .mozilla-1 (this will move your firefox preferences to .mozilla-1, and if they are causing the problem, then it will solve it hopefully) to undo, do mv .mozilla-1 .mozilla
[11:24] <EnvoyRising> my mic does not work
[11:25] <kalatian> Bad_boy: actually, that probably won't help -- it is the flash player that is crashing
[11:25] <SpentRocket> You could just copy x-chat to your stick Leafman, and run it from there
[11:25] <Leafman> lol k i'll try that :)
[11:26] <Bad_boy> kalatian: done the .mv
[11:26] <Giddykong> what is an app i can use to burn an iso cd image?
[11:26] <Bad_boy> kalatian: shall undo the .mv. -1
[11:26] <LukeL> For windows giddykong?
[11:26] <Bad_boy> kalatian:  how do you it the lash crashing it
[11:26] <kalatian> Bad_boy: if you have no other ideas, mv'ing it is worth a try I suppose, but as I said, probably won't help
[11:27] <Giddykong> nah ubuntu 7.10
[11:27] <EnvoyRising> is there some tool that will guide me through setting up my laptop's mic? no matter what channel I chose, I can't record anything
[11:27] <LukeL> !burners | Giddykong
[11:27] <ubotu> Giddykong: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:27] <EnvoyRising> !mic
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Giddykong> thank you :)
[11:27] <EnvoyRising> !audio
[11:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:27] <Bad_boy> kalatian:  yeah, on 64 bits gutsy problme with flash. but it worked for 2 weeks
[11:27] <SpentRocket> I'm serious Leafman, check on package manager if any special libs are needed and copy those too, and change your SHLIB_PATH, sorry did I say that? I meant LD_LIBRARY_PATH to suite ..
[11:28] <Leafman> k well i'm serious about trying that too i just feel stupid now :)
[11:28] <kalatian> Bad_boy: I'm using flash on 64bit, I've never had it crash firefox, although flash itself does crash occasionally
[11:28] <SpentRocket> Hehehe lol well don't be :-)
[11:30] <EnvoyRising> well that was no help. is there a bot command that will point me toward help with my mic/ and or recording?
[11:30] <EnvoyRising> !record
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <EnvoyRising> !recording
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recording - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <EnvoyRising> !laptop
[11:30] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[11:30] <Bad_boy> kalatian: looks like this move has done the trick, i will wait for a few more minutes
[11:31] <Leafman> btw another stupid question: that would just be the hidden file of it in /home/*username*?
[11:31] <Leafman> *folder
[11:31] <kalatian> !alsa | EnvoyRising
[11:31] <ubotu> EnvoyRising: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:32] <KyleSloderbeck> Hey spentrocket i'm going to reboot real quick ;) Might have gotten this thing figured out... doubt it though lol :P
[11:32] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, that was the first place i went
[11:32] <EnvoyRising> thanks though
[11:32] <kalatian> EnvoyRising: ok, just checking :)
[11:32] <SpentRocket> Good luck to kyleSloderbeck :-)
[11:33] <Bad_boy> kalatian: thanks i think it work, if the flash is causing that maybe this will happen
[11:33] <kalatian> EnvoyRising: if you have one of those fancy boards with 8 difference audio jacks, make sure you've got the plug in the right hole ;)
[11:33] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, its a built in mic
[11:33] <icesword> :(
[11:34] <kalatian> Bad_boy: ok, cool :) glad that helped -- hope you didn't have too many extensions installed =P
[11:34] <kalatian> EnvoyRising: sorry, my mistake.  did you check to make sure that all the sliders are up in the volume control, and that all the tracks are available in preferences?
[11:34] <braddbr> hi.. i am doing a 'apt-get install xfonts-base' on a desktop and i keep getting 'FATAL: Error inserting battery'.. this is a desktop. anyone know of a fix for this?
[11:34] <armani76> toc toc
[11:34] <icesword> :(
[11:35] <kalatian> icesword: ?
[11:35] <Bad_boy> kalatian: my bookmarks are saved on-line get syncrohonise automatically, so i can share them on other pc.
[11:35] <armani76> knock knock
[11:35] <kalatian> Bad_boy: ah, ok, easy to fix that problem then
[11:35] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, roger. i turned on all channels, turned everything up, then tested with every 'record from input' option available
[11:35] <icesword> kalatian, i have to do reinstall again,and it is netinstall
[11:36] <icesword> lol
[11:36] <kalatian> EnvoyRising: what program are you using?
[11:36] <ere4si> icesword, what happened?
[11:36] <kalatian> icesword: why don't you download the CD or something?
[11:36] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, the default sound recorder
[11:36] <SpentRocket> I really think Ubuntu did a good job here, a lot more people are going to like linux now
[11:36] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, i'm open to using other software if you have suggestions
[11:36] <arturo> per l italiano?
[11:36] <kwaj> what command writes the conole reply to a file?
[11:37] <kalatian> !it | arturo
[11:37] <ubotu> arturo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:37] <kalatian> EnvoyRising: I'd highly recommend audacity
[11:37] <arturo> grazie mille
[11:37] <larson9999> kwaj, put '> filename' after the command will do it.
[11:37] <icesword> ere4si, i just do a netinstall
[11:37] <danand> kwaj - command > command_output.txt
[11:37] <ere4si> k
[11:37] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, i was afraid you'd say that. seems a bit overkill. just need to record some korean phrases for this class. i'll get it anyways, maybe it'll help, lol
[11:38] <icesword> kalatian, coz i install ubuntu to a vm
[11:38] <kalatian> EnvoyRising: i only say that because I've never used the default sound recorder, and audacity seems to work ok for me :D
[11:38] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, fair enough
[11:38] <EnvoyRising> lol
[11:39] <kalatian> icesword: you can't use the normal cd because its a VM?  why not?
[11:39] <KyleSloderbeck> Soooo the noob is back.
[11:39] <KyleSloderbeck> No luck :*(
[11:39] <icesword> kalatian, coz my mem is low,i am afraid it won't boot
[11:39] <kalatian> ah
[11:40] <kalatian> icesword: you could try the alternate install cd
[11:40] <icesword> kalatian, not sure if alternate will boot
[11:40] <kalatian> one step ahead of me :D
[11:40] <KyleSloderbeck> I tried to uninstall 915resolution but still got the same error. Could it be that I installed several different graphic things from the synaptic package manager
[11:41] <icesword> kalatian, i have 256m ram on host
[11:41] <Trondern> i had a computer with only xp on it, then installed ubuntu and now i get the grub 22 error.. i think the boot files are on the hd0,0 disk witch is ntfs and i can get access to, only grub flies found is on another disk and setup on this disk doesnt help..
[11:41] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, i'm a step closer. it actually records, but I have a lot of static. will turn down a few channels to see if that helps
[11:41] <Giddykong> hey on ubuntu 7.04 is compiz on it from fresh install?
[11:41] <icesword> Trondern, google "grub load error 22"
[11:41] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, meanwhile, is there a noise cancellation feature in audacity?
[11:42] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, nevermind, found it :-)
[11:42] <kalatian> EnvoyRising: that's good :D I think there is a noise cancelation, but I don't know how to use it.  Your best bet is to mute a bunch of channels
[11:42] <MDCore>  I'm runny gutsy and having problems with wireless on my laptop. It detects the security on my AP's as WEP instead of WPA for some reason and won't let me connect. Any ideas?
[11:42] <Trondern> i did, but cAnt see the problem with boot files on a ntfs disk covered..
[11:42] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, vain I know, but I wish the widgets were prettier, lol
[11:42] <kalatian> EnvoyRising: just out of curiousity, where is the noise canceling feature?
[11:42] <icesword> kalatian, will 7.10 alternate cd boot under 100m ram?
[11:43] <kalatian> haha, yeah, audacity isn't the prettiest program in the world ;)
[11:43] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, effect > noise removeal
[11:43] <kalatian> icesword: I've booted in on 96
[11:43] <SpentRocket> KyleSloderbeck:  All the clues will be in xorg.conf in the "Device" section, it might be that your hardware hasn't been detected properly, but you need to look and tell us what's in there, and what you have in your computer ...
[11:43] <ArmedKing> Is there a way in Ubuntu to look for packages not needed by the system anymore. i realy neet to clean up ツ
[11:43] <icesword> kalatian, okay,:)i will stop this netinstall,hhehe
[11:43] <kalatian> ArmedKing: yep, sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:43] <EnvoyRising> kalatian, i'l try and find an alternative once i finish my homework :P
[11:43] <KyleSloderbeck> lol k
[11:44] <ArmedKing> kalatian, Kudo's for you man ツ Tnx
[11:45] <epifanio> hi, i'm tring to install ubuntu 7.10 on a laptop (Packard Bell easy-note e3264)  when i try to "start or install ubuntu" it fail :-( giving me a long error-log on the screen . in it i can see :
[11:45] <icesword> kalatian, you run 7.10 in 96 ram,how is it working
[11:45] <KyleSloderbeck> Did you check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57918/ spentrocket?
[11:45] <SpentRocket> Hey kalatian, Audacity is superb software, especially when you think of how much you paid for it :-)
[11:46] <kalatian> icesword: it isn't pretty, but I think that's because the processor is only 300mhz -- the ram shouldn't be a problem
[11:46] <kalatian> SpentRocket: no no, I know that, just saying the controls don't match the GTK theme
[11:46] <kalatian> not complaining :D
[11:46] <simplexio> epifanio: what it says..
[11:46] <epifanio> hdc : error code 0X70 sense_key:0x03 asc: 0x15 ascq: 0x00
[11:46] <KyleSloderbeck> SpentRocket: I got what you mean now sorry it took so long. This is the correct one. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57919/
[11:46] <epifanio> and
[11:47] <epifanio> sqashhfs error ...
[11:47] <epifanio> buffer I/O error on device hdc
[11:47] <SpentRocket> Oh, and right you are kalatian :-)
[11:48] <razvan29> este vreoun roman pe aici
[11:48] <razvan29> ?
[11:48] <epifanio> sqashhfs error unable to read page, block 1524ffbd ...
[11:48] <simplexio> epifanio: try run that check install media, or similiar sounding selections at when you boot from cd/dvd
[11:48] <Leafman> hm one last question, how do you read text files in command line environment?
[11:48] <Dr_willis> Leafman,  more foobar.txt
[11:48] <Dr_willis> Leafman,  or less whatever.txt
[11:48] <SpentRocket> Leafman ... vi
[11:49] <Dr_willis> Leafman,  or cat, vi, nano, mc,  or  so on..
[11:49] <Leafman> k
[11:49] <Dr_willis> Leafman,  if its compressed you can use zmore whatever
[11:49] <kalatian> and besides, audacity would loose functionality if the controls were pure gtk
[11:49] <razvan29> este vreo un roman pe aici
[11:49] <razvan29> ?
[11:50]  * cyphase thinks it's going to be strange when Ubuntu versions get into the quadruple digits, e.g. 10.04, 10.10
[11:50] <SpentRocket> Having moved from VaxVMS to Unix about 10 years ago I hated vi, but when you get used to it you'll get to accept it :-)
[11:50] <Leafman> i was thinking of saving something using gedit in .txt format lol
[11:51] <kalatian> I'm just trying to figure out why when I record from the line in, static is in the sound, but when it plays through my speakers from line in, it sounds perfect
[11:51] <icesword> kalatian, i want to do a netinstall,coz i only the parts which is useful to me,like openoffice,i don't like it,so after i installed ubuntu,shall i use "sudo apt-get remove openoffice " to uninstall it totally?
[11:52] <kalatian> icesword: you can do that, you can also do your netinstall it you want -- you might even be able to convince the netinstall to use an alt. install CD
[11:52] <yatna>  cad
[11:52] <kalatian> to pull the packages from
[11:52] <Leafman> well time to try this out
[11:53] <icesword> kalatian, yeah,that is great,how to ?convince the netinstall to use an alt install cd
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck> Section "Device"
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck>         Identifier      "Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller"
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck>         Driver          "i810"
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck>         BusID           "PCI:0:2:0"
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck> EndSection
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck> Section "Device"
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck>         Identifier      "Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller"
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck>         Driver          "i810"
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck>         BusID           "PCI:0:2:0"
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck> EndSection
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck> Section "Device"         Identifier      "Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller"         Driver          "i810"         BusID           "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection
[11:54] <simplexio> haha
[11:54] <KyleSloderbeck> oh wow sorry :( lol
[11:54] <BillyJoe> I want to show /dev/console in an xterm? I can not figure this out? nor do I see any thing on the ubuntuforums
[11:54] <icesword> KyleSloderbeck, are you crazy
[11:55] <simplexio> KyleSloderbeck: just learnes that middle button pastes stuff ?
[11:55] <KyleSloderbeck> i think i hit the wrong shortcut ;) haha
[11:55] <kalatian> icesword: not sure if it is possible, but I know that if you put an alt. install cd in after installing ubuntu, you can use the apt-cdrom command to get the packages off of it
[11:55] <davit> :-/. anybody know why I cannot remove ubuntu-desktop?
[11:55] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small
[11:55] <kalatian> KyleSloderbeck: you're lucky the floodbot is MIA ;)
[11:56] <simplexio> KyleSloderbeck: X dosen't work at all?
[11:56] <tokyoahead> guys I tried to install ATI drivers according to the instruction (enabled the restricted drivers) but now I get an empty screen... where do I disable them? /etc/X11.... ?
[11:56] <simplexio> tokyoahead: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <kalatian> tokyoahead: try editing /etc/X11xorg.conf
[11:56] <icesword> kalatian, ok,that is it,i installed a cli only system,then put alternate one in cdrom,then i can do it,what is command exactly
[11:56] <KyleSloderbeck> lol yes i am
[11:57] <KyleSloderbeck> Not sure what you mean simplexio.
[11:57] <rhineheart_m> anybody here knows ISP4you?
[11:57] <kalatian> icesword: I think you can do apt-cdrom add, put the cd in, then when you try to install a package found on the CD, it will grab it from there instead of the internet
[11:57] <tokyoahead> simplexio: I am there... what do I put in instead? I have driver fglrx...
[11:58] <kalatian> tokyoahead: you can put "ati" (w/o the quotes) or "vesa" (again, w/o the quotes)
[11:58] <simplexio> tokyoahead: vesa shouls work
[11:58] <tokyoahead> so instead of "fglrx" with quotes I put vesa w/o quotes?
[11:59] <achtzehn> hi all-having a problem with wireless... I was using it fine, then I gave the laptop to my gf for a minute, and she gave it back and wireless wasn't working... when i click the network monitor, no wireless networks show up (even though in the past there were 20 or more... any idea what happened?
[11:59] <epifanio> i'm tring the option : check CD for defects, now it executing : Checking inetgrity, thise may take some time .......... (just to give you some ideas about,   i also tried to install a debian stable netinstall but it fail to install the kernel module)
[12:00] <danand> tokyoahead - think you need quotes in that file - replace "fglrx" with "vesa"
[12:00] <memento> hello, who know a alternative editor for bluefish
[12:00] <simplexio> achtzehn: did you try ifdown, ifdown cycle ?
[12:01] <danand> achtzehn - did your gf turn the wireless off ie with the switch that laptops sometimes have?
[12:02] <achtzehn> danand this laptop doesnt have a switch
[12:02] <kalatian> tokyoahead: danand: sorry, that was stupid of me, you need quotes around the driver name (I meant, just replace fglrx with ati, and leave the quotes ;)
[12:02] <thannoy> memento: maybe quanta+
[12:02] <tokyoahead> kalatian: thanks :-)
[12:03] <davit> Having problems with cleaning a Ubuntu Gutsy, the apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop does not remove properly.  I am trying to have a base system with BIND, shorewall and Webmin gatway box. The rest of the apps I dont need.
[12:03] <icesword> tokyoahead, your ubuntu is ok now?
[12:03] <achtzehn> simplexio ifdown cycle returned interface cycle not configured
[12:03] <nick89> Hi, can someone point me in the right direction to get Ubuntu to network boot?
[12:04] <memento> thannoy ill try it
[12:04] <tokyoahead> icesword: well I took out the windoes HD and work with only one now. I installed with grub. I will try to run XP from a slave disk later with the grub.
[12:04] <danand> davit - why don't you use the server install cd?
[12:04] <davit> hi nick89... woking on that PXE and NIS is a must also DHCP and TFTP
[12:04] <thannoy> memento: before install it, look at websites so see if it is what you are looking for...
[12:04] <hischild> good morning to all ... *sleepy face*
[12:05] <memento> thannoy i did it
[12:05] <LukeL> !ot | hischild
[12:05] <ubotu> hischild: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:05] <LukeL> jk :P good morning
[12:05] <icesword> hischild, good evening
[12:05] <hischild> tuna,  hehehe .... i just woke up ...
[12:05] <thannoy> memento: ok, since I was not sure (using quanta+, no *fish)
[12:05] <tokyoahead> how can I again manually restart X11 after chaning gfx setting so I dont have to roboot the whole system?
[12:05] <hischild> icesword, evening? o.O
[12:05] <icesword> hischild, it is 20:05 here
[12:05] <hischild> tokyoahead, ctrl alt backspace
[12:05] <tokyoahead> hi thanks
[12:06] <hischild> icesword, i c ... where is "here" ?
[12:06] <icesword> hischild, hehe,China
[12:06] <LukeL> 7A.M here.. *yaawn*
[12:06] <hischild> icesword, i c :-)
[12:06] <hischild> LukeL, usa?
[12:06] <icesword> hischild, you from Holland
[12:06] <hischild> icesword, good guess :-)
[12:06] <hischild> you whoised me?
[12:06] <memento> thannoy this editor is for KDE, maybe i get some errors or what do you think
[12:06] <LukeL> close but I'm north in canada
[12:07] <thannoy> memento: I use Gnome and quanta+, no prblm
[12:07] <icesword> hischild, no,i right click your name,then i get it
[12:07] <LukeL> Prolly from your hostname
[12:07] <memento> thannoy ok
[12:07] <hischild> icesword, the gui version of whois :p but with a bit less info :p
[12:08] <hischild> woah ... i'm 2 happy :p
[12:08] <icesword> hischild, yeah,use the best database
[12:08] <thannoy> memento: maybe some additional feature will be disable until you install other KDE paquages but not most usefull ones.
[12:08] <mbrandt> grrr
[12:08] <hischild> mbrandt, grr?
[12:08] <mbrandt> anyone get the extended desktop to work with intel 965 and gutsy?
[12:09] <davit> any hints on remove U-desktop
[12:09] <LukeL> icesword does it say I'm from USA?
[12:09] <mbrandt> i have two monitors but they are both the same
[12:09] <hischild> LukeL, was just doin a random guess based on the time difference
[12:09] <mbrandt> and the option is greyed out
[12:09] <icesword> LukeL, what?your @ is so long ,it is not easy to guess,:)
[12:09] <crow> when I choose 'shut down' on my ubuntu, it doesn't shot down my pc, but it just unloads the ubuntu and stays turned on. how do I make it to turn off completely?
[12:10] <mbrandt> crow, how old is your PC?
[12:10] <epifanio> guys, i done checking integrity,  :  check finished: errors in 412 files! press any key to reboot your system :-(
[12:10] <crow> 2y
[12:10] <mbrandt> should support soft shutdown, try shutdown now -h
[12:10] <neeto> Is there a way to request a list of availiable IPs from a DHCP server?
[12:11] <mbrandt> crow, if that doesn't power it off you may be out of luck
[12:11] <danand> davit - sudo apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop? if you have tried that what errors do you get
[12:11] <neeto> Or request an IP from a DHCP server within a certain user-defined range
[12:11] <LukeL> I don't think you can pick an IP from DHCP being a client
[12:11] <mbrandt> OBTW crow, that's from a command line and don't forget to put sudo in front
[12:11] <crow> mbamford,  sure
[12:11] <neeto> LukeL: bad news for me then :(
[12:11] <mbrandt> neeto
[12:12] <crow> mbrandt,  thanks
[12:12] <neeto> mbrandt:
[12:12] <mbrandt> neeto you can bind an IP address to a MAC address in the dhcp server options
[12:12] <LukeL> If you run the DHCP server then yeah you can probably configure it to a specific IP or reserve by MAC
[12:12] <davit> danand I did not get error as I used webmin from remote. it displayed files have been removed. I not checking the box.
[12:12] <crow> another thing: what is good c++ compiler that I can run on ubuntu?
[12:13] <crow> which*
[12:13] <LukeL> crow gcc
[12:13]  * mbrandt is not a program roller man
[12:13] <crow> I got some intel c++ but it doesn't compile some codes
[12:13] <neeto> mbrandt, LukeL : I am merely a client... a pawn, a slave of the master college network... the virtual network fortress that I am trapped inside. No outside access... I am alone in this cold dark underworld of slow downloads and bittorrent traffic shaping...
[12:13] <davit> opps Danand.  I mean .. I will check the box directly soon.
[12:13] <mbrandt> neeto, LOL, sorry man
[12:14] <danand> davit - can you not ssh into the box?
[12:14] <rudolfmdlt> crow, install build-essential, do a synaptic search for it.
[12:15] <crow> rudolfmdlt, what is 'build-essential'? something to update my c++ or?
[12:15] <mbrandt> crow, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:15] <Dr_willis> its the basic files needed for C devevopment
[12:15] <neeto> To retain my livelyhood I have investigated many ways of getting past the restrictions set upon me by my sadistic gateway server... however as it has been a perilous journey, my troubles do not seem to end so easily...
[12:15] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[12:15] <ubotu> build-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[12:15] <Dr_willis> essential packages needed to build thibngs from source. :)
[12:16] <neeto> NO! Not at all. The machine will be the end of me! DAMN YOU SANDVINE!! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!!
[12:16] <PriceChild> neeto: if you are being restricted at university, contact the admins of the network. We're not hot on helping you bypass it here.
[12:16] <nu2buntu> hi! i'm trying to resize my winxp ntfs so that i can increase the space of my ubuntu ext3 ... but it seems the drive orders limits this process. i tried in gparted (via livecd) or even partition magic (via winxp). still i can/do not know how to solve this. do i have to create these new partitions from scratch? any help will be appreciated. thx
[12:16] <neeto> PriceChild: You take the fun out of everything man, grow a sense of humor.
[12:16] <mbrandt> crow, yeah, I'm a network engineer, i'm the guy that locks yuo down
[12:16] <mbrandt> rather neeto
[12:17] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  ive seen where it depends on the drive layout and what partitions are extended and what are logical - can cause issues.
[12:17] <KyleSloderbeck> I'm still having problems getting desktop effects to work. I can't find anything. Error Message " Desktop effects could not be enabled "
[12:17] <davit> Danand, yes but now at the box looking at logs but dont know what I am looking for. Nothing appears wrong, except Destop is still loaded!
[12:17] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  it seems to work easier if all the partitions are primaries.
[12:17] <rudolfmdlt> crow, it is a packadge that contains all the files you need to be able to compile and build a C++ application
[12:17] <mbrandt> KyleSloderbeck, what is your chipset for your videocard?
[12:17] <crow> ok thanks
[12:17] <jacobian__> can I install a hardy package in gutsy?
[12:18] <danand> davit - did you shutdown X before you removed the desktop
[12:18] <simplexio> KyleSloderbeck: i810 driver in X? then those effects wont work
[12:18] <rudolfmdlt> crow, it is not an IDE though. if want an easy to use IDE to program C or C++ in, try CodeBlocks
[12:18] <KyleSloderbeck> i810 Intl
[12:18] <KyleSloderbeck> Yes that is it
[12:18] <icesword> LukeL,
[12:18] <cjsstables> Morning all
[12:18] <neeto> mbrandt: I hope to one day achieve your status as the gatekeeper to the world outside... the world of unlimited bandwidth, piracy and illegal warez. I dream of a time when I can frollic in the feilds of ripped Xvid DVD Screeners and cracked versions of anything... one day...
[12:19] <mbrandt> KyleSloderbeck , won't work
[12:19] <davit> Opps, No.
[12:19] <KyleSloderbeck> Is there a way to get around that?
[12:19] <danand> davit - can you reboot the machine?
[12:19] <KyleSloderbeck> I had it yesterday where it was working with the same graphics. But I reinstalled and have no idea how it happened.
[12:19] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis:  i'm not sure what are they..primaries or logicals... but i cant increase the size of my ext3 ... any way to solve this ?
[12:19] <icesword> LukeL, i guess you are from Canada
[12:19] <cjsstables> quick question.  running ubuntu 7.10 installed with generic kernels which kernels should I use if I have a dual opteron system? or should I reinstall with amd64?
[12:20] <LukeL> icesword yeah I am, but my hostname ends in .com so it's sometimes confused
[12:20] <simplexio> KyleSloderbeck: you sure that driver didnt change ?
[12:20] <hischild> cjsstables, unless have a real reason (4gb ram, special programs, reasons to use x64) stick with the 32bit kernels (generic)
[12:20] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,   see what gparted says tehy are., You may have to resize one at a time, and  do it in several stages. You Might have resize one shrinking it. and putting the space in the next one by enlarging it.
[12:20] <cjsstables> yes i have 4 gb ram
[12:21] <hischild> cjsstables, >4gb
[12:21] <icesword> LukeL, how did you set that complex hostname and also that long
[12:21] <davit> I go back to remote, and start again. First reboot, then shutdown X (how is this done - startx stop?)
[12:21] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  not sure if gparted can convert extended/logicals into primaries -  That would be nice if it could.
[12:21] <KyleSloderbeck> Simplexio : I'm not sure, it may have.. I did install different chipsets on the synaptic package manager.
[12:21] <cjsstables> will there be any any performce enhancement
[12:21] <icesword> LukeL, i thought you use a proxy server
[12:21] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis:  if i create another (new) ext3 partition... can i use that partition to install applications for ubuntu ?
[12:21] <Blekkaard> Hello there ! Can anyone help me please? How can I change the standard input on my Ubuntu 7.10 from DOLLAR to EURO?
[12:21] <KyleSloderbeck> Wasn't sure what I was downloading.. Just experimenting a little bit.
[12:21] <danand> davit - /etc/init.d/gdm stop should stop X
[12:21] <hischild> cjsstables, be aware that there is a lot more work involved in getting an x64 system working ... yes there would be an improvement in performance
[12:22] <neeto> FREEDOM WILL BE MINE! I AM A SLAVE NO LONGER! HEAR ME NOW RESNET! YOU CANNOT CONTROL ME! YOU CANNOT OWN ME! I AM HUMAN! I HAVE A RIGHT TO PIRATE AND PLUNDER EVERY TORRENT TRACKER ON THE INTERWEBZ!!
[12:22] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  normally the package manager puts stuff in the proper subdirs under /, you dont have a single dir that apps go in.  You could move some other stuff like /home to a new partition if you wanted I guess.
[12:22] <hischild> !shout ...
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shout ... - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <hischild> !shout
[12:22] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:22] <cjsstables> hischild is all the same software available?
[12:22] <erUSUL> |caps | neeto
[12:22] <booster_> hey does anyone in here know how to add launchers to the avant window bar ??
[12:22] <erUSUL> !ot > neeto
[12:22] <cjsstables> or will I have to compile it myself?
[12:22] <Blekkaard> Hello there ! Can anyone help me please? How can I change the standard input on my Ubuntu 7.10 from DOLLAR to EURO?
[12:22] <Dr_willis> !switchToDecafe | neeto
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about switchtodecafe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: once i resize them one by one .. i will have one huge unlocated space which still... i cant move it to my primary / ext3
[12:23] <neeto> HAHA!
[12:23] <hischild> cjsstables, all the same software is available, yet you will have to compile some yourself as it isn't available for x64
[12:23] <neeto> You use the bot to do your bidding
[12:23] <neeto> but your plans have been foiled.
[12:23] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  perhaps. perhaps you will be able to   move it to one of them.  resizing / can result in the uuid changing also. That may cause issues.
[12:23] <hischild> neeto, no :-) it did :-)
[12:23] <cjsstables> ok cool.  what if I just installed the -server kernels instead
[12:23] <neeto> I win again Dr. Willis... a formidable opponent
[12:23] <neeto> nonetheless
[12:24] <davit> thks ...its just reboothin now
[12:24] <hischild> cjsstables, what are you trying to get running? what goal should it serve?
[12:24] <Blekkaard> Hello there ! Can anyone help me please? How can I change the standard input on my Ubuntu 7.10 from DOLLAR to EURO?
[12:24] <debianism> help please where can i get rt73 driver for my gutsy
[12:24] <cjsstables>  looking for a high end work station
[12:24] <hischild> cjsstables, ok ... what are you going to use it for?
[12:24] <cjsstables> video editing
[12:24] <danand> Blekkaard - look in System -> preferences -> keyboard
[12:24] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[12:25] <icesword> who can tell me,what is that choice in alternate cd ,oem is for what
[12:25] <davit> X stop I think.  no process running on X
[12:25] <hischild> cjsstables, have you made your choice on video software yet?
[12:25] <danand> larson9999 - GNU/linux!!
[12:25] <Blekkaard> danand It's not the keyboard: I'm using Librepos and it uses Dollars in stead of Euro's (cause I am in Belgium)
[12:25] <icesword> who can tell me,what is that choice in alternate cd ,oem is for what
[12:25] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: my only solution is ... reformat the whole hdd..and create new partions accordingly i guess...too bad i make a sloppy mistake giving winxp 75% space of which i dont really need right now... i have plans to use winxp on virtualbox instead... how many Gbs would it take ?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> icesword,  that lets a company like dell or whoever. make a 'restore/fast install' type cd.
[12:25] <erUSUL> icesword: for installing without a user so oem (see dell) can sell preinstalled machines
[12:25] <cjsstables> no0tic:  just investigating.  we are looking to record performace horses and their gate (how they run) and then play it back for analysis
[12:25] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  i normally give my virtual machines about 8gb :)
[12:26] <larson9999> danand, ah, yes... the GNU nazis.  i prefer to do without.  GNU rocks, too, though.
[12:26] <hischild> cjsstables, i know i'm asking a lot of questions ... but it's the only way to be sure that it runs smooth
[12:26] <simplexio> cjsstables: not bad idea to google about rt-kernel for ubuntu
[12:26] <arnath> anyone know if the laptop harddisk problem has been fixed yet? (the one where the harddisk spins up & down too much, causing it to die earlier)
[12:26] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: see... i only got 4 gbs left on my ext3... and 16gbs unused on ntfs :(
[12:26] <elkbuntu> larson9999, please play nice
[12:26] <hischild> simplexio, rt-kernel is real time kernel right?
[12:26] <cjsstables> I'm guessing alot of rewinding with the video software and alot of zooming
[12:27] <simplexio> hischild: yeh
[12:27] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  sounds like you need to go buy another HD.
[12:27] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: thx for your advise doc
[12:27] <larson9999> elkbuntu, what's that? linux for elk?
[12:27] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  next time make the partitions all primaries if you can rember.
[12:27] <simplexio> or low-latency, thogh i dont have no idea how good are they or are they stull usefull. i use custom kernel
[12:27] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis:  i got another extra 80gb just for storing files
[12:27] <cjsstables> and we will be storing video clips to so we can compare afte making shoeing and equipment changes
[12:27] <davit> now the apt-get remove does not find  ubuntu-desktop, but is still there as I just shut it down
[12:27] <danand> larson9999 - GNU nazis??? what? if GNU didn't exist you would _not_ have the linux kernel. the linux kernel is compiled using GNU compilers
[12:28] <Qtpaxa> ...I have ubuntu on my toshiba and a dead hd
[12:28] <danand> !gnu | larson9999
[12:28] <ubotu> larson9999: G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[12:28] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  80? heh heh.. :) thats all?   You dont want to know the storage i got  on my machines.
[12:28] <tokyoahead> guys how can fine-tune screen-effects? i can set it only to three levels...
[12:28] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: i will work on it right away...thx for reminding :)
[12:28] <Qtpaxa> I had to replace it last week
[12:28] <elkbuntu> larson9999, yes, special inputs for their hoofs. are you here to ask or help, or to be annoying
[12:28] <elkbuntu> danand, calm please
[12:28] <Dr_willis> !ccsm | tokyoahead
[12:28] <ubotu> tokyoahead: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[12:28] <erUSUL> !ccsm | tokyoahead
[12:28] <hischild> simplexio, rt-kernel ... i know they have  advantages ... but can you explain them quick or shall i just look it up?
[12:28] <mooboo1> i have 2.13 GHz CPU, but in /proc/cpuinfo, "cpu MHz" says 1603.000, why?
[12:28] <cjsstables> ok
[12:28] <danand> elkbuntu - grrrr... :) - just bugs me a bit!
[12:28] <elkbuntu> danand, i know, no need to feed though
[12:29] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: yea... i usually burn them to dvds to save space. i'm sure you got more !
[12:29] <tokyoahead> Dr_willis: thanks!
[12:29] <erUSUL> hischild: rt real time better responsiveness latencies etc (see music production or pseudo real time systems)
[12:29] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  been doing that all night to free up some space also.
[12:29] <danand> elkbuntu - i just got dragged into that didn't I .... baahhh
[12:29] <erUSUL> mooboo1: maybe frequencie scaling is enabled
[12:29] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: what's the best burning software on ubuntu ?
[12:29] <hischild> cjsstables, yeah ... like simplexio suggested .... look up rt-kernel ...
[12:29] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  i use k3b
[12:29] <Ibycus> hi all, does anyone know where i can go to request that the ubuntu repos use the latest stable version of evolution?
[12:29] <mooboo1> erUSUL, is that good or bad?
[12:30] <cjsstables> ok thanks guys
[12:30] <larson9999> elkbuntu, i thought maybe elkbuntu was another flavor of ubuntu.  there are tons.
[12:30] <hischild> cjsstables, and unless your video software supports 64bit, stay with 32bit
[12:30] <simplexio> hischild: i did some testing with jack audio system, w/o rt kernel latency was 50->100ms with rt-kernel is was usually under 10ms, but i dont do audio so
[12:30] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis:  and also for creating dvd movies? i usually use convertxtodvd ... which is so helpful
[12:30] <Dr_willis> Ibycus,  it will get updated with the next release  most likely. thats how ubuntu works.
[12:30] <hischild> simplexio, aah ... that is kind of a huge difference
[12:30] <arnath> anyone know if the laptop harddisk problem has been fixed yet? (the one where the harddisk spins up & down too much, causing it to die earlier)
[12:30] <erUSUL> mooboo1: i have it enabled too and it gets to full speed when needed and lower speed when iddle you save power
[12:30] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: yes k3b is on my system already :)
[12:30] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  i rarely convert to dvd movies. Ive used that devded program a few times.
[12:30] <mooboo1> erUSUL, oh awesome! :D
[12:31] <simplexio> cjsstables: i recommend that you upgrade kernel to attleast .23 or .24 for me change from .22 to .23 was noticeable on desktop use
[12:31] <erUSUL> simplexio: new cfs scheduler ;)
[12:31] <Ibycus> Dr_willis: well its a bug fix version of evolution, not a new branch. ubuntu has 2.12.1, latest is 2.12.3. I was under the impression that ubuntu released bug fixes on the same version of a program?
[12:31] <simplexio> erUSUL: yeh.
[12:31] <larson9999> danand, yeah, i just think those who insist on GNU/linux are a bit heavy handed.  why not GNU/ubuntu et al?
[12:31] <simplexio> .23 is muuch nicer to use on desktop
[12:31] <Bad_boy> Guys, how i can list .* files
[12:31] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: i never know how virtualbox works... will all softwares installed work if i open them through ubuntu?
[12:31] <Dr_willis> Ibycus,  depends on the bug.
[12:32] <Qtpaxa> Linux Ubuntu
[12:32] <cjsstables> ok.  I installed the meta package for the multimedia.  hope that will be a good start
[12:32] <mooboo1> .24 isnt nicer?
[12:32] <erUSUL> Bad_boy: ls -a
[12:32] <Qtpaxa> It's not another SO
[12:32] <Bad_boy> erUSUL: cheers bud
[12:32] <cjsstables> and am sure to at least upgrade to .24
[12:32] <Qtpaxa> (in my opinion)
[12:32] <simplexio> mooboo1: i didnt notice any difference between .23 and .24
[12:32] <Bad_boy> ls-a
[12:32] <Ibycus> Dr_willis: I only say this because I encountered a nasty bug in evolution that causes it to crash instantly on opening a particular type of email message
[12:32] <mooboo1> simplexio, oh
[12:32] <Dr_willis> nu2buntu,  virtual box and vmware emulate a whole machine so most windows apps will work ok.
[12:32] <cjsstables> thanks guys
[12:32] <simplexio> now running .24.2
[12:32] <Ibycus> Dr_willis: apparently it's fixed in 2.12.3
[12:33] <mooboo1> does anyone experience their desktop get non-responsive or frozen sometimes?
[12:33] <Dr_willis> Ibycus,  file a bug report then i guess.    and note its fixed. it may be in backports or some other repos allready. or in the works.
[12:33] <simplexio> mooboo1: but .24 should be little better in scheluding on other stuff
[12:33] <Dr_willis> !info evolution
[12:33] <ubotu> evolution (source: evolution): groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2461 kB, installed size 7868 kB
[12:33] <jacobian__> If I just add hardy to my apt sources, and then install a package, is it likely to create problems?
[12:33] <mooboo1> oh
[12:33] <Ibycus> Dr_willis: do i submit a bug report on launchpad?
[12:33] <mooboo1> is it possible that an application can use 100% of CPU?
[12:33] <lexy1997> I am using the nvidia restricted drivers through gutsy but desktop effects won't start any ideas?
[12:33] <cjsstables> currently running kernel 2.6.22-14 #1 smp
[12:33] <Dr_willis> Ibycus,  might want to search there first - see if theres allready a thread on it.
[12:34] <Ibycus> Dr_willis: I went to launchpad and couldn't actually find a link that says "submit bug" - but ill have a search first anyway
[12:34] <mooboo1> is it possible that an application can cause the system to become unresponsive?
[12:34] <larson9999> moobol seems to be a bit of an issue for many.  especially with gutsy.  for me it the combinatino of nvidia+gutsy+power management not playing nice.  i disabled the power management services and haven't had any locksups or temporary freezes since.
[12:34] <mooboo1> oh
[12:34] <simplexio> mooboo1: badly coded GUI one, yes
[12:35] <mooboo1> simplexio, shouldn't it be impossible?
[12:35] <nu2buntu> Dr_willis: i will try virtualbox as soon as i get space :p thx ...
[12:35] <simplexio> mooboo1: i have no eproblems, no compiz, systems load over 5 and desktop runs fine ( X2 3800+, 2G RAM, 6600GT nvidia)
[12:35] <mooboo1> oh
[12:36] <nu2buntu> scanning documents in ubuntu is pretty complicated ... any recommendation on a good OCR software...
[12:36] <nu2buntu> ?
[12:36] <larson9999> mooboo1, funny think is with arch linux on this same laptop i don't have those issues.
[12:36] <mooboo1> i have core2duo, 4gb ram, compiz... it have happen that everything except the mouse been frozen
[12:36] <mooboo1> larson9999, oh
[12:36] <simplexio> mooboo1: kernel?
[12:36] <AquaFox> My title bars are HUGE.
[12:36] <mooboo1> simplexio, right now .24
[12:36] <AquaFox> Why is that?
[12:36] <neeto> So for some reason, the back/forward buttons on my mouse, are mapped by default to right/middle click. I can map the keys using btnx, but the right/middle click functions remain. Every time I go back, I also open a context menu on the page... how can I disable the initial functions of the mouse buttons?
[12:37] <mooboo1> AquaFox, maybe System->preferences->appearance
[12:37] <AquaFox> mooboo1, and do what?
[12:37] <lexy1997> I am using the nvidia restricted drivers through gutsy but desktop effects won't start any ideas?
[12:37] <mooboo1> neeto, i have same problem with my mouse :(
[12:37] <simplexio> mooboo1: my best quess would be compiz, iff dmesg dosnt't output any error from hardware
[12:37] <mooboo1> simplexio, oh
[12:37] <AquaFox> mooboo1, it's obvious you never tried going to 'appearance'
[12:37] <neeto> mooboo1: no fix?
[12:38] <mooboo1> AquaFox, i did
[12:38] <AquaFox> Okay then, mooboo1 what to do when there?
[12:38] <mooboo1> AquaFox, i guess maybe you changed something, if not, then i have no idea, try change to another theme, then back again
[12:38] <AquaFox> mooboo1, ubuntu started this theme.
[12:38] <AquaFox> The live CD booted with this theme.
[12:38] <mooboo1> neeto, none that i know
[12:38] <mooboo1> AquaFox, oh strange
[12:38] <simplexio> mooboo1: what top tell your about system loads weh nsystem freezes
[12:39] <mooboo1> AquaFox, report it on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and attach a screeenshot
[12:39] <hardez> hi there can anyone help me with ubuntu and the libs?
[12:39] <larson9999> in my experience, usually to fix those mouse buttons, all that's needed is to set the proper configur in xorg.conf.  so far i haven't had a mouse that i couldn't google and find a page with the correct xorg.conf lines.
[12:39] <mooboo1> simplexio, no idea, its frozen, so i cant use top :p
[12:39] <hardez> i'm new to linux and i've to code something in C
[12:39] <mooboo1> larson9999, ya but i dont wanna google, in windows "it just works"
[12:39] <lexy1997> I am using the nvidia restricted drivers through gutsy but desktop effects won't start any ideas?
[12:40] <Qtpaxa> someone spanish?
[12:40] <erUSUL> !es | Qtpaxa
[12:40] <ubotu> Qtpaxa: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:40] <hardez> spricht jemand deutsch??
[12:40] <mooboo1> hardez, open text editor, write, save, compile with 'gcc', if you wonder some function, type 'man printf'
[12:40] <vlt> !de | hardez
[12:40] <ubotu> hardez: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:40] <erUSUL> !nl | hardez
[12:40] <ubotu> hardez: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:41] <vlt> erUSUL: haha
[12:41] <mbrandt> Everyone have a good day/night my shift is over and I'm going home to get some sleep
[12:41] <erUSUL> hardez: install build-essential to basic C stuff
[12:41] <AquaFox> I need ipw3945 drivers.
[12:41] <AquaFox> Where to search for .debs
[12:42] <ysdrryedryy> i wish that desktop effects worked without nvidia's drivers
[12:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> AquaFox, install the restricted-modules
[12:42] <lexy1997> AquaFox, try getdeb.org
[12:42] <ysdrryedryy> makes it not possible to see them in live cd mode (cannot restart)
[12:42] <AquaFox> [Hardy]TuTUXG, I can't get online on my laptop.
[12:42] <AquaFox> I need it to at least be a starting point to go online.
[12:43] <lexy1997> I am using the nvidia restricted drivers through gutsy but desktop effects won't start any ideas?
[12:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> AquaFox, no ethernet nic?
[12:43] <AquaFox> [Hardy]TuTUXG, I got no ethernet ports nearby.
[12:43] <neeto> mooboo1: what kind of mouse do you have? I just managed to fix mine
[12:43] <AquaFox> [Hardy]TuTUXG, why can't you just tell me where ican get the .debs ?
[12:44] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> AquaFox, i can't becuz i dont know which one u should get
[12:45] <AquaFox> [Hardy]TuTUXG, just give me a link and I'll manage.
[12:45] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> AquaFox, try launchpad
[12:45] <erUSUL> AquaFox: ubuntu already comes with that card drivers /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/*
[12:46] <AquaFox> erUSUL, how come mine didn't load with them?
[12:46] <erUSUL> AquaFox: afaics if you want a newer version you have to either compile them yourself or use a newer kernel
[12:47] <erUSUL> AquaFox: sudo modprobe ipw3945
[12:47] <lexy1997> I am using the nvidia restricted drivers through gutsy but desktop effects won't start any ideas?\
[12:47] <simplexio> lexy1997: try start xompiz from cmdline
[12:48] <lexy1997> ok, give me a second
[12:48] <germn> hola
[12:48] <erUSUL> !es | germn
[12:48] <ubotu> germn: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:49] <davit> bye and tks
[12:49] <lexy1997> OK, it says xgl not present but I didn't uninstall it will check synaptic to see if it's there
[12:49] <l3on> Hi all, do you know someway to make me in contacts with staff ubuntu.com ?
[12:50] <lexy1997> do I need xgl?? don't nvidia cards support aiglx??
[12:50] <germn> l3on: what do you mean exactly??
[12:50] <l3on> germn: I would contact ubuntu.com web admin...
[12:50] <ks3> lexy1997, you can try running compiz.real --replace and see what happens
[12:51] <germn> l3on: that sounds important...
[12:51] <LoLLo> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs8sYe4uqM
[12:52] <l3on> germn: I can query you?
[12:52] <egonw> moin all, where should I go to ask about gutsy-hardy upgrade trouble? like the assumption that /tmp is not mounted noexec?
[12:52] <artspace> how can i test to see if my firewire card is detected (i cannot capture from camera and want to debug)
[12:54] <germn> maybe, coulb be
[12:56] <sharkp> hi!
[12:56] <germn> hallo!
[12:56] <Qtpaxa> hi!
[12:56] <germn> guten morgen
[12:56] <sharkp> how can I see if I'm using ubuntu for 32 bit or ubuntu for 6 bit?
[12:56] <sharkp> PS:Buongiorno :P
[12:56] <l3on> Ciao :)
[12:56] <sharkp> ciao l3on :)
[12:57] <germn> s
[12:57] <Qtpaxa> did you shipped the cd or downloaded it?
[12:57] <ks3> sharkp, uname -m
[12:57] <sharkp> downloaded
[12:57] <sharkp> please give me answer, I get lunch
[12:57] <simplexio> hmhmm
[12:57] <sharkp> thanx
[12:57] <sharkp> bye
[12:58] <ysdrryedryy> is there any way of enabling desktop effects without using the restricted drivers?
[12:58] <ysdrryedryy> (nvidia )
[12:59]  * nerdsquad3210 Listens to - Bufo - Doing Kermit.mp3
[13:00] <tokyoahead> guys where is the config file for grub?
[13:01] <zimon> tokyoahead: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:01] <nerdsquad3210> is it launch time already ?
[13:01] <tokyoahead> zimon: ah thanls... I was searching in /etc...
[13:02] <nerdsquad3210> what on the menu ?
[13:02] <tokyoahead> how can I find out on which HD is a system to install it into the grub bootmenu?
[13:03] <nerdsquad3210> i ear roasted gnu is a jaw breaker
[13:04] <nerdsquad3210> grub defaults to FreeBSD nomenclature for Hard drives
[13:04] <hischild> can anyone suggest a good live-feed video editing program?
[13:07] <KyleSloderbeck> Would anyone be willing to try and somehow fix my problem with the visual affects. I've tried like 4 times in the last hour and I guess my i810 will not allow me to. Thanks to the people who pointed that out. Any help would be amazing, i'm bored and would like to get this baby rollin'
[13:07] <erUSUL> hischild: LiVe ??
[13:08] <hischild> erUSUL, yeah ... it's for the following situation:
[13:09] <ArmedKing> Hey all, When booting from the live cd the Console has colors for directorys and file types. but after install i dont have that. any way to get it?
[13:09] <hischild> erUSUL, once a month we have a youth meeting where we have a digital camera hooked up to a laptop by firewire. We want to be able to edit the live stream from this camera and then project it onto a beamer connected by a VGA cable
[13:09] <KyleSloderbeck> I hate being a noob lol
[13:10] <hak5fan> Hi I'm trying to get pcmanfm to show icons in my custem
[13:10] <hak5fan> Hi I'm trying to get pcmanfm to show icons in my custem de..... I have no icons installed how do I do that
[13:10] <stdin> ArmedKing: add this to your ~/.bashrc: alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[13:10] <Warfy> I have a problem with some disappearing files and folders on a ext3 formatted drive. I tried rebooting - running 7.10 all latest patchs
[13:10] <stdin> ArmedKing: next time you login it will be read, but you can do "alias ls='ls --color=auto'" now to save logging out/in
[13:11] <yeara> hi...
[13:12] <erUSUL> hischild: http://lives.sourceforge.net/
[13:12] <nerdsquad3210> disappearing files ?
[13:12] <nerdsquad3210> ubuntu does that ?
[13:12] <KyleSloderbeck> Is it possible to have someone get in my computer and fix my problem? I know it's risky and nearly dumb I suppose but this is boring haha
[13:12] <nerdsquad3210> :D
[13:12] <hischild> erUSUL, hmm ... let me have a look :-)
[13:12] <ere4sli> hak5fan, edit - preferences - desktop - show desktop icons
[13:13] <Warfy> yeah I know - I was very supprized to have them dissapear
[13:13] <simplexio> im feeling lucky today.. just enabled compiz :)
[13:13] <adaptr> what video ?
[13:14] <hak5fan> ere4si, oh.... not Desktop icones... but I don't have any gtk compatible icon set installed..... the files in the file manager have no icons
[13:14] <tokyoahead> guys if I want to add a HD to the grub boot menu, how do I find out which HDx,x it is? I only know its the only partition on /dev/sdc1...
[13:14] <adaptr> tokyoahead: grub itself can tell you if you run it
[13:14] <hischild> erUSUL, woah ... that looks nice o.O
[13:14] <adaptr> tokyoahead: but Ubuntu adds disks as required, no need for you to do anything
[13:14] <tokyoahead> adaptr: so I run grub form the command line?
[13:14] <adaptr> yes
[13:15] <sharkp> l3on: ci sei ancora?
[13:15] <Warfy> nerdsquad3210: It was one drive only - all the other drives are working correctly
[13:15] <yeara> quit
[13:15] <nerdsquad3210> setup up a raid
[13:15] <ks3> KyleSloderbeck, have you tried running compiz.real --replace?
[13:16] <KyleSloderbeck> Nope
[13:16] <KyleSloderbeck> I'll try that
[13:16] <nerdsquad3210> what FS are you using ?
[13:16] <l3on> sharkp: yep
[13:16] <Warfy> ext2 or 3
[13:16] <ks3> KyleSloderbeck, if that doesn't work, you can run gtk-window-decorator --replace to get things back to normal
[13:16] <tokyoahead> adaptr: I ran it, how do I ask it to tell me what devices It found?
[13:17] <sharkp> l3on: (preferisci l'inglese o l'italiano?)
[13:17] <nerdsquad3210> use rasiserfs its the linux killer FS :P
[13:17] <pope_> I need help w/ 2 questions: First, on startup I must hit Alt-F1 to boot, and it tells me "kinit: No Resume Disk Image". What is this, and how do I make it stop doing it?  Second, how do I get hibernate/Suspend to work?
[13:17] <sharkp> :P
[13:17] <hischild> erUSUL, thanks! i'm gonna check that one out ....
[13:17] <adaptr> tokyoahead: you *ran* it ? so what did you do ?
[13:17] <l3on> sharkp: join #ubuntu-it ;)
[13:17] <sharkp> lol ok
[13:17] <tokyoahead> adaptr: well its still running :-) I antered "grub" and I hvae that grub> prompt
[13:17] <sharkp> sso, listen
[13:17] <Warfy> I might just do that.. but first I need to get those files off the drive before I go formatting it
[13:17] <sharkp> can you help me about 3d on my ati radeon hd 2600 XT?
[13:18] <adaptr> tokyoahead: good, now type "root(hd" and TAB
[13:18] <jk_> can i play warrock on ubuntu?
[13:18] <soul> hi guys
[13:18] <soul> im need help
[13:18] <sharkp> jk_: no..
[13:18] <cofff> hi''
[13:18] <tokyoahead> adaptr: that just repeats the current line...
[13:18] <jk_> but they said there was a version for warrock on ubuntu?
[13:18] <soul> im need put subtittles in mplayer and totem under video image
[13:19] <tokyoahead> adaptr: ah I missed a space before the (
[13:19] <sharkp> jk_: really? So, I don't know...
[13:19] <adaptr> tokyoahead: yeah, sorry - i always forget that
[13:19] <KyleSloderbeck> ks3: That made it basically so i can't move anything that is opened. No x's in the top right or anything.
[13:19] <Warfy> on another note - is there a way to stop Gparted scanning for a floppy drive?
[13:19] <crow> do I need to unistall my intel c++ compiler, before installing gcc?
[13:19] <ere4sli> hak5fan, that should happen...
[13:19] <pope_> jk_: What turns up if you google: ubuntu, warrock?
[13:20] <ks3> KyleSloderbeck, ok,  you can run metacity --replace to get those back. did it give any useful errors?
[13:20] <sharkp> l3on: so?could you help me?
[13:20] <jk_> some forums come up nad some say click here to download
[13:20] <tokyoahead> adaptr: so I can see which aone is dev/sdc1?
[13:20] <bullgard4> Where can one find the definitions applicable to the terms used in /proc/meminfo? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/53182/)
[13:20] <adaptr> tokyoahead: no, unfortunately grub names them 0, 1, 2...
[13:20] <tokyoahead> adaptr: ok, so I have to guess and try?
[13:20] <adaptr> tokyoahead: but you can detect which ones are bootable cq have grub data on them
[13:20] <jk_> should i try to nstall warrock with the terminal?
[13:21] <adaptr> tokyoahead: I presume in all this that your new disk has an actual OS on it that you wish to boot ?
[13:21] <pope_> give it a go, worst it'll do is tell you it couldn't find the package ^_^
[13:21] <ks3> tokyoahead, check /boot/grub/device.map. it shows which linux devices map to which grub drives
[13:21] <adaptr> ks3: good one
[13:21] <nerdsquad3210> i friend of mine told me that if you dont belive in hacker i should try linux ...
[13:21] <tokyoahead> adaptr: yes I unplugged it during linux setup
[13:21]  * adaptr never messes with grub anymore, it's hardly ever necessary
[13:21] <tokyoahead> ks3: thanks I will try that
[13:21] <nerdsquad3210> i friend of mine told me that if you dont belive in hackers you should try linux ...
[13:21] <KyleSloderbeck> ks3: It said a certain thing was not installed. Would you like me to try that again and see what wasn't installed?
[13:22] <tokyoahead> ks3: there is only the first HD in there
[13:22] <jk_> how cna i make my dektop to a giant cube?
[13:22] <ks3> KyleSloderbeck, sure
[13:22] <tokyoahead> ks3: when I installed grub the other hds were not installed, maye thats why
[13:22] <adaptr> jk_: crush it in a car compactor, I think
[13:22] <joff> is anyone any good with bluetooth headset connections? and patient enough to explain something to a newb?
[13:22] <ks3> tokyoahead, ok. just run grub from the command line and it should update the file
[13:22] <pope_> hibernate and suspend just kick me to black screen w/ cursor, unable to resume using laptop, any suggestions to fix this?
[13:23] <jk_> i want to make the screen look like a giant cube that turns
[13:23] <ompaul> nerdsquad3210, how is that a Ubuntu question - methinks you are offtopic http://www.ubuntu.com and check out the downloads if you want to try it]
[13:23] <KyleSloderbeck> ks3: It has 2 fatal errors..
[13:23] <ere4sli> jk_, you need to enable desktop effects for that
[13:23] <tokyoahead> ks3: nah it does not...
[13:23] <frost0> anyone ever used wine doors?
[13:23] <pope_> As The Cube Turns, seems like the cheesy pun title of a sure hit web show
[13:23] <haiha191> 22222
[13:23] <KyleSloderbeck> ks3: fatal : GLX EXT texture from pixmap is mixxing.  Fatal No manageable screens found on display
[13:24] <joff> frost0: whats your problem, i use it occasionally
[13:24] <frost0> joff, no problem....just curious if it is worth the install?
[13:24] <ephracis> question: I just read on phoronix that nexuiz 2.4 has been released. Is there a way for me to follow a package and see when a new release will be packaged for ubuntu?
[13:24] <jk_> i just got a virus on linux =O
[13:24] <my> J #ZECHAN
[13:25] <adaptr> jk_: no you didn't
[13:25] <mooboo1> jk_, doubt so
[13:25] <joff> frost0 if you need win apps that you would have to use windows for then yes
[13:25] <ks3> KyleSloderbeck, not sure on that one. do you know if you're using the intel or the i810 X driver?
[13:25] <pope_> the first sign your OS has gone main stream, virus constructors now target you ^_^
[13:25] <KyleSloderbeck> ks3: yes i am using that
[13:25] <frost0> joff, how big is the download?
[13:25] <joff> frost0 not too big if i remember
[13:26] <joff> frost0 look here www.winehq.com
[13:26] <KyleSloderbeck> ks3: Also, window manager warning " " found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded"
[13:26] <Warfy> ok I figured out how to fix the problem... the drive was not mounted correctly, maybe a bug - so I umount, and then mount again and it came up just fine
[13:26] <jk_> why cant i watch youtube videos the screen starts going black?
[13:26] <ks3> KyleSloderbeck, they're two different ones... the i810 was the original, but the newer one is intel. You could try switching to the other one...
[13:27] <frost0> joff, ever used vmware?
[13:27] <nerdsquad3210> hey new windows will run linux programas nativly :D
[13:27] <joff> does anyone know how to get a bluetooth headset running for Voip apps?
[13:27] <jk_> DOES ANYone know y i cant watch youtube videos when flash and java is installed
[13:27] <nerdsquad3210> no more messing around with linux kernels
[13:27] <joff> frost0 ive used it in windows to emulate for othe os, but not from linux
[13:27] <ompaul> !bluetooth | joff
[13:27] <ubotu> joff: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[13:28] <KyleSloderbeck> ks3: When I switch to the intel driver under System>Administation>Screens and Graphics it doesn't actually save to the new driver.
[13:28] <ompaul> nerdsquad3210, you are offtopic
[13:28] <jk_> does anyone know y i cant watch videos come on please =(
[13:29] <KyleSloderbeck> Jk_ do you have flash installed?
[13:29] <frost0> joff, is it legal to use windows codecs on wine?
[13:29] <jk_> kylesloderbeck_ i think so how can i double check?
[13:29] <nerdsquad3210> apt get gnash --install
[13:29] <nerdsquad3210> apt get --install gnash
[13:29] <KyleSloderbeck> jk_ lol, couldn't tell ya, i'm very very new to ubuntu.
[13:30] <ks3> KyleSloderbeck, it can be changed by hand in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but you have to be careful when working with that
[13:30] <jk_> i just got ubuntu last night
[13:30] <nerdsquad3210> jk_ is an idiot
[13:30] <cofff> fuck off
[13:30] <jk_> fuck you nerd
[13:30] <nerdsquad3210> !troll
[13:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:31] <cofff> !cunt
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[13:31] <stdin> !ops
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[13:31] <KyleSloderbeck> ks3 : Would I want to find out how to do that in the forums?
[13:31] <andreinogiacomi> ciao
[13:31] <Seveas> there we go...
[13:31] <joff> frost0 only if you have a legal copy of windows i believe, unless you can use an alternate codec
[13:31] <andreinogiacomi> !list
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[13:32] <frost0> joff, i have a legal copy, but if i interpret the law correctly, i still can't use those codecs on ubuntu...right?
[13:32] <andreinogiacomi> !list
[13:32] <gcleric> ! list
[13:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:32] <joff> frost0 do you have the legal copy installed on the same machine?
[13:33] <ks3> KyleSloderbeck, that would be a bit of a last resort if nothing else works. perhaps someone else knows the "right" way to go about it. i'm a command line geek... :)
[13:33] <frost0> joff, no...i ditched windows completely about a year ago.
[13:33] <KyleSloderbeck> ks3 : Thank you.
[13:34] <joff> if you hold the license for it then you can use it as far as i know, not sure on the implications of it, anyone else want to pitch in on this?
[13:34] <KyleSloderbeck> Does anyone know how to change my graphics card driver? Every time i change it, it changes right back. <--- dummy
[13:34] <adaptr> so how did you change it ?
[13:34] <frost0> joff, it is just a very gray area...i want to undersand the law before i do anything.
[13:35] <RootyRootRootW00> HI, I've broken some of my packages, how do I fix them?
[13:35] <joff> frost0 then i suggest you search the legal portion of microsofts website
[13:35] <brobostigon> good afternoon everyone.
[13:35] <frost0> joff, fun ! :)
[13:35] <joff> frost0 oh yes, billy boy and his rules :)
[13:36] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, in a terminal type   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:36] <scraga2> what's the audio program that has the ipod plugin?
[13:36] <Warfy> what is the best way to automatically backup files to another drive... not a raid, and also get it to automatically backup on boot and as soon as a file is added or changed
[13:36] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, and choose the vid driver at the appropriate window
[13:37] <brobostigon> !backup | Warfy
[13:37] <ubotu> Warfy: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[13:37] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : I did that in the terminal and it asks for my password and i hit enter (have no password) and it just brings the kyle@kyle-laptop up again.
[13:37] <joff> frost0 just a sugestion but if you want to cover all bases you could install the windows os with virualbox and run what you need through that, as its a full version it cannot be contested
[13:38] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : nevermind it brought it up.
[13:38] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, your user should have a password - the login password
[13:38] <frost0> joff, hold on...what is the command for free space?
[13:38] <_Oz_> I have a window that won't close.  How can I find the process and kill it in the terminal?
[13:38] <frost0> joff, again* via terminal.
[13:38] <joff> ok i can get my machine to talk to the headset, unfortuanatly i cannot get it to run as an audio device
[13:38] <_Oz_> I mainly need the command to "list all processes" and then I think I type "kill (ID)"
[13:38] <Xk2c> !fglrx
[13:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:38] <brobostigon> frost0: df -h
[13:39] <frost0> brobostigon, thx
[13:39] <frost0> joff, i have 8.6 gb free.
[13:39] <ere4si> _Oz_,   top    in the terminal is the command - then hit   k   then type the pid
[13:39] <frost0> joff, is that enough?
[13:39] <_Oz_> ere4si: thanks
[13:39] <joff> should be enough if you just use it for basic apps
[13:40] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : I did that and chose the driver Intel which is the one I wanted now i'm at the 2nd screen and at the bottom it says ok.  I can't hit enter though.
[13:40] <ere4si> _Oz_, there is a panel app called force quit that I use for that - it's easier
[13:40] <frost0> joff, no 3d support....correct?
[13:40] <hischild> erUSUL, checked out some lives demo's ... that's seriously amazing .. that's _exactly_ what i was lookin for
[13:40] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, hit tab then enter
[13:41] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : lol, i'm such a noob. Now it has bus identifier. Says PCI 0:2:0
[13:41] <simplexio> does anyone have idea why mplayer dies when compiz is enabled
[13:42] <joff> frost0 have a look http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox
[13:42] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, just select the defaults it brings up except maybe screen resolution
[13:42] <simplexio> mplayer video driver is xv
[13:42] <brobostigon> simplexio: run mplayer from terminal and see what errors are produced
[13:42] <joff> frost0 i havent used any of them in a while however i do run Warcraft in Wine
[13:42] <frost0> joff, any good free games that run in wine....like warrock?
[13:42] <s0u][ight> hello my keyboard and touchpad stopped working with ubuntu :|
[13:43] <s0u][ight> they don't even work with the live cd
[13:43] <joff> frost0 whatever free games you can find that run in windows run in wine
[13:43] <larson9999> frost0, there a good free games that run with native linux
[13:43] <joff> frost0 thats the whole point of it :)
[13:43] <s0u][ight> at boot i can choose between my installations with arrows etc. but after it i have nothing that works
[13:43] <frost0> larson9999, i've bet i've played them all..
[13:43] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : I am at the resolution now.  I'm on a widescreen but not sure which one to choose
[13:44] <cyrusjunior> frost0, Have you tried the open source of SimCity classic?
[13:44] <ompaul> !bootoptions | s0u][ight
[13:44] <ubotu> s0u][ight: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[13:44] <larson9999> frost0, oh, then you've got to spend your time more wisely :)
[13:44] <frost0> cyrusjunior, isn't like ttd or something
[13:44] <frost0> larson9999, no, just
[13:44] <frost0> larson9999, add
[13:44] <joff> oh simcity, now theres something i havent seen in a long time, i might have to dig it out
[13:44] <bullgard4> Where can one find the definitions applicable to the terms used in /proc/meminfo? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/53182/)
[13:44] <dooglus> how do I set the DPI of the X display?
[13:44] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, it will have selected what is suited to your card - if there isn't one you really want hit enter
[13:44] <frost0> A.D.D.
[13:44] <xidarian> i have a CSV file with the 2 letter abreviations for the states in it, its over 300 lines and i need a way to replace the 2 letter abreviations with the state names, i also want to be able ot repeat the process on future csv files
[13:44] <s0u][ight> what does it have to do with my boot options?
[13:45] <xidarian> how exactly would i do tat?
[13:45] <cyrusjunior> frost0, ttd? Sorry I don't know that acronym.
[13:45] <xidarian> *that
[13:45] <david_> hello
[13:45] <s0u][ight> the live cd did the same thing
[13:45] <frost0> cyrus, huh...maybe different game.....what are you talking about :)
[13:45] <s0u][ight> it never did something like that before
[13:45] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : ok, i'm finished doing that. It has also created a backup it says. Do I need to restart or has it already done its thing?
[13:45] <cyrusjunior> frost0, it is all good =). I am going to eat breakfast. Later everyone.
[13:45] <ompaul> bullgard4, in the source for the kernel and the kernel newbies mailing list archive - it is all good stuff
[13:46] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, ctrl+alt+bksp to restart x and login
[13:46] <frost0> cyrusjunior, bye.
[13:46] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : Ok thank you.
[13:46] <ere4si> k
[13:46] <kasi> hi, i keep disconnecting from my wireless network.. and the only way to get it back is by rebooting my computer, can anyone help me?
[13:46] <_Oz_> question: is there a good disk management tool that lets me easily see how much data is stored on all my hard drives (and can then show you directories in order of descending size so I can find where the "big stuff" is?
[13:46] <_Oz_> )
[13:47] <simplexio> pah. now it works, thoght X died for somereason
[13:47] <obfusco> xidarian: you could write a script to do that...
[13:47] <jrib> _Oz_: accessories -> disk usage analyzer
[13:47] <ere4si> _Oz_, I have disk usage analyser in my menu
[13:47] <_Oz_> perfect
[13:47] <_Oz_> thanks
[13:48] <frost0> is it possible to get cedega for free (legal) ?
[13:48] <ompaul> bullgard4, you need to attack google with a definitions /proc/meminfo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procfs can help some, be aware there is some speculation that tells you that some of what you read is not what it appears to be documented at
[13:48] <ompaul> s/at/as
[13:48] <brobostigon> frost0: yes, use wine,the both use wine
[13:48] <_Oz_> anyone here use mediamaster?
[13:49] <frost0> brobostigon, but, isn't there a cvs release? of cedega which is better for games?
[13:49] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, is it better now?
[13:49] <brobostigon> frost0: no idea
[13:49] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi, What Does This Mean?  libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (=2.14.1-1ubuntu1) but 2.15.6-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[13:50] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : It is running on the new driver thank you. But I still get the error when I try to enable visual effects.
[13:50] <simplexio> brobostigon: now it dies when i try enable fullscreen: [Mixer] No hardware mixing, inserting volume filter.  0%  1.2% 1 0 86% X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)1.2% 1 0 73%
[13:50] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: it probably means you have been mixing repositories
[13:50] <subtle> Hey, is it possible to count the number of files in a directory with lftp?
[13:50] <eifzon> hm, what is wrong with my jailed user? I am trying to start irssi. I have copied all the irssi files that are needed to the jail, I get this error: http://www.pastebin.ca/924557
[13:50] <larson9999> frost0, for me it's political.  i decided not to play games that don't support linux.  i make an exception for old games like dos games and c64 stuff.  but i barely have time to play one game through a year :)
[13:51] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: I installed a .deb for my new iPod. How do I fix it then?
[13:51] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, was it the i810 driver - that is 2d
[13:51] <brobostigon> simplexio: no idea, no experience wih mplayer, sorry
[13:51] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: what did you install exactly
[13:51] <s0u][ight> hello my keyboard and touchpad stopped working with ubuntu :| can someone help me?
[13:51] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : I was on the i810 driver and switched the the Intel  - Experimental modsetting one.
[13:51] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: libgpod2_0.5.3+actually0.6.0-0.1_i386.deb for my new 80gig ipod classic.
[13:52] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : I did notice my monitor says Model:Custom 1 not sure if that means anything with these problems.
[13:52] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, shouldn't - do you know the card model?
[13:53] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and the result of 'apt-cache policy libglib2.0-dev libc6 libc6-dev'
[13:53] <xidarian_> i have a CSV file with the 2 letter abreviations for the states in it, its over 300 lines and i need a way to replace the 2 letter abreviations with the state names, i also want to be able ot repeat the process on future csv files without much work, what would i use to do this
[13:53] <subtle> Anybody who knows how to count the Nr of Files inside a directory via lftp?
[13:53] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: I haven't (to my knowlegde) touched my sources list, am working on other pastebin
[13:54] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : yes, it is 945G
[13:54] <jrib> xidarian_: I'd go with python, it has a csv module.  But any scripting language you are comfortable with would work
[13:54] <kasi> is there a known problem with wireless network on 7.10? i keep disconnecting after a few hours, and i cant reconnect unless i reboot my computer.
[13:54] <simplexio> if someone else has problems with mplayer, use x11 driver it seems to work now
[13:54] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:55] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57926/
[13:55] <brobostigon> kasi: what card,usb adaptor, and or chipset do you use??
[13:55] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, getting a link for that
[13:55] <arnath> anyone know if the laptop harddisk problem has been fixed yet? (the one where the harddisk spins up & down too much, causing it to die earlier)
[13:56] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57928/
[13:56] <kasi> brobostigon: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[13:56] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: you cut off the top on the first one
[13:56] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib oh - am fixing
[13:56] <brobostigon> kasi: what chipset does it use??
[13:56] <kasi> brobostigon: intel
[13:57] <brobostigon> kasi: i need to the chipset type, more specific please??
[13:57] <xidarian_> jrib: thanks, i dont' wanna use a whole scripting language or i'd try php, i was hoping htere was something designed for doing find an replace in files
[13:57] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: anyway, I see the problem.  You have a libc6 version installed that is not the gutsy version in the repos.  Why?
[13:57] <jrib> xidarian_: sed
[13:57] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57929/
[13:57] <apurva> help help help!
[13:57] <brobostigon> kasi: look it up in lsusb and dmesg
[13:58] <xidarian_> jrib: oh, ok, i'll look into that
[13:58] <apurva> what to do with "OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'" error?
[13:58] <kasi> brobostigon: is it the bus info?
[13:58] <obfusco> xidarian_: you could probably also do it with a macro in open office
[13:59] <ere4si> KyleSloderbeck, here's a link for the effects - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652714
[13:59] <RootyRootRootW00> It must have been in that debian package I installed. I couldn't compile the ipod patch so I googled up a .deb. Obviously wrong to do.
[13:59] <Mez> Can anyone tell me how to verify if a file was the one installed by apt-get or whether it's been overwritten? (think I might have been rootkitted)
[13:59] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: It must have been in that debian package I installed. I couldn't compile the ipod patch so I googled up a .deb. Obviously wrong to do.
[13:59] <brobostigon> kasi: the chipst type and model. use dmesg in your terminal to look that up.
[13:59] <apurva> hello everone!
[13:59] <apurva> please help me
[13:59] <xidarian_> obfusco: i was thinking about that, bu ti need something i can move to a command line only linux computer if i need to
[13:59] <_Oz_> !ask | apurva
[13:59] <ubotu> apurva: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:59] <KyleSloderbeck> ere4si : Thank you very much for the help! Very appreciated.
[13:59] <ubuntu252> does anybody know if yast work correctly in ubuntu?
[13:59] <ere4si> k
[13:59] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: you can try downgrading, but if that was not the only thing you installed, then there is no way to tell how much your system is broken
[14:00] <apurva> hello ere4si!
[14:00] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: make backups
[14:00] <ere4si> hi
[14:00] <_Oz_> Yeah, ere4si is a great resource
[14:00] <apurva> need some help.....
[14:00] <_Oz_> Very helpful fella.
[14:00] <bullgard4> ompaul: I have found the definitions asked for in my kernel sources. Thank you very much. --  But I do not understand your remark: "- it is all good stuff." Can you please say it other words so that I can comprehend what you mean.
[14:00] <obfusco> xidarian_: ahh, then sed + a shell script or php would be better
[14:00] <brobostigon> ubuntu252: yast is suse only,
[14:00] <ere4si> talk me up some more pls :)
[14:00] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: when you say downgrading, you mean reinstall gutsy?
[14:00] <Floi> although I've installed the ugly codec packages my totem player doesn't want to play my dvd
[14:00] <_Oz_> ere4si: how do you do it, man?  You're constantly here helping people.
[14:00] <apurva> i get this.... "OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'"
[14:00] <s0u][ight> hello my keyboard and touchpad stopped working with ubuntu :| can someone help me?
[14:01] <xidarian_> obfusco: i was thinking bash script and sed
[14:01] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: no, 'sudo apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION'
[14:01] <ubuntu252> brobostigon: yeas, but actually there are a por
[14:01] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: ah
[14:01] <ubuntu252> sorry: a port in debian
[14:01] <ere4si> _Oz_, just interested :)
[14:01] <apurva> using nvidia drivers
[14:01]  * _Oz_ votes ere4si for Man of the Year
[14:01] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: can you tell me which pacakage version I should use?
[14:01] <apurva> helloooo
[14:02] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: the one in the repos.  Look at your apt-cache policy output
[14:02] <Floi> help?
[14:02] <kasi> brobostigon:  RTL8101e at 0xf8826000, 00:1b:24:82:b8:cf, XID 34000000 IRQ
[14:02] <ubuntu252> brobostigon: there is a ported version of yast in debian, but i don't know if it works in ubuntu
[14:02] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small
[14:02] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: ok, am looking
[14:02] <brobostigon> kasi: i am not familier with that one,
[14:02] <apurva> u there ere4si? kindly help me :(
[14:03] <kasi> brobostigon: ipw3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945 Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.2.2mp.ubuntu1
[14:03] <aaw> padang
[14:03] <brobostigon> ubuntu252: try it and see
[14:03] <ere4si> apurva, one min pls
[14:03] <apurva> ok :)
[14:03] <brobostigon> kasi: no familier with it, sorry
[14:03] <cvega> any good alternative of winamp for ubuntu (except XMMS ?)
[14:03] <kasi> brobostigon: ok, thanks anyway
[14:03] <ompaul> bullgard4, it is good to read and know these things
[14:03] <brobostigon> cvega: audacious
[14:04] <cvega> thank you
[14:04] <frost0> when i install virtual box, do i have to give it a virtual partition?
[14:04] <s0u][ight> the virtual machine yes
[14:05] <bullgard4> ompaul: Ah, now I understand your remark in the given context. --  Thank you very much again.
[14:05] <_Oz_> frost0: yes, but you do it within virtualbox...  visit us in #vbox for mre
[14:05] <_Oz_> more, rather
[14:05] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: when I select uninstall lib6 thru synaptic, It wants to take everything off my system
[14:05] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: that's not what I suggested you do
[14:05] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: use the command I gave you
[14:05] <ompaul> RootyRootRootW00, that would be correct, and expected behaviour
[14:05] <cvega> woo, brilliant player. thanks a bunch
[14:05] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: oh, sorry
[14:06] <ere4si> chazco, seen the manual? - http://www.softmaker.net/down/tm2006manual_en.pdf
[14:07] <ere4si> apurva,  what's up?
[14:07] <chazco> ere4si - Had a look, cant find anything for this issue
[14:07] <ere4si> k
[14:07] <apurva> hi ere4si
[14:07] <ompaul> cvega, try rythmnbox the default player
[14:07] <lazynano> hi there!
[14:07] <ere4si> hi apurva
[14:07] <apurva> i am getting this messege when i try to run a game "OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'
[14:07] <apurva> "
[14:08] <apurva> what should i do?
[14:08] <lazynano> can somebody help me to configure mi vpn connection like the one i have in win?
[14:08] <ere4si> apurva, you may need a better vid driver
[14:09] <ompaul> apurva, that would be your video driver - what kind of video card have you got?
[14:09] <apurva> i have installed the latest nvidia drivers
[14:09] <chazco> ere4si - It seems to be something to do with Ubuntu and the msfonts. In OO without them everything is too big, but installed it works fine. In Textmaker without them everything works fine, but with them its too small. I need them installed for other stuff, but prefer TM over OO...
[14:09] <myScreenNameIsDi> has anybody ever successfully got nvidia driver working with 8800 GT
[14:09] <apurva> my laptop has integrated nvidia driver 6000 series
[14:09] <wols_> myScreenNameIsDi: sure but the ones in gutsy won't work
[14:10] <ere4si> chazco: that does seem strange
[14:10] <wols_> back when gutsy came out there was no 8800gt in existence yet
[14:10] <myScreenNameIsDi> shall i got back to fiesty
[14:10] <wols_> if it wasn't out with gutsy how could the drivers  from feisty help? do youe ver think for a bit?
[14:10] <chazco> ere4si - Yep... i'd like to try on another distribution but dont have enough internet data allowance left to download one :)
[14:11] <wols_> you can wait for hardy, do a backport of hardy's drievrs, etc
[14:11] <lazynano> can somebody please please help me to configure mi vpn connection like the one i have in win?
[14:11] <wols_> !anyone | lazynano
[14:11] <ubotu> lazynano: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:11] <apurva> ompal i installed the driver using restricted drivers manager
[14:11] <mcp_> does ubuntu have some kind of "online installer"? Where i only need to download a small start-install application, and all the install data is fetched from the net?
[14:12] <jrib> !minimal | mcp_
[14:12] <ubotu> mcp_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:12] <ere4si> chazco: with fonts being fonts they should resize like all the others - did you put the msfonts in the same dir as all the rest?
[14:12] <lazynano> can anynone please help me configuring my vpn connection like the one i'm using in win?
[14:12] <mcp_> jrib, thanks
[14:12] <myScreenNameIsDi> my driver manager has it enabled but not in use
[14:12] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: I hate being ignorant but I'm stuck. What am I looking for? policy output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57931/
[14:12] <ompaul> apurva, have you restarted your X session since you enabled it?
[14:12] <ere4si> apurva, what brand and model notebook?
[14:12] <myScreenNameIsDi> many times
[14:13] <chazco> ere4si - Installed them via msttcorefonts
[14:13] <ompaul> gareth restart your X session
[14:13] <ere4si> chazco: k
[14:13] <chazco> ere4si - Also tried placing them in the applications own fonts folder... same issue
[14:13] <myScreenNameIsDi> ompaul ive done that several times
[14:14] <lazynano> !anyone
[14:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:15] <claybustr> besides, you addressed your question to NOT anyone
[14:15] <lazynano> does anyone?
[14:15] <RootyRootRootW00> claybustr: lol
[14:16] <icedtea> can you run the server disto off the download cd?
[14:16] <zero_> hey is there a way to have lighting and other power settings turn down when i run my latop on JUST battery power?
[14:16] <icedtea> like the desktop cd that is
[14:17] <lazynano> DOES ANYNONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY VPN CONNECTION???
[14:17] <apurva> ompaul how do i restart xserver? there is one more problem.... when i restart my system, the resolution reverts to 800x600
[14:17] <wols_> !CAPS
[14:17] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[14:17] <ompaul> apurva, you got the wrong driver
[14:17] <zero_> lazynano, what is your problem?
[14:17] <obfusco> lazynano: what you are looking for is pptp, fairly easy to set up in gutsy, but i haven't done it recently google up a howto
[14:17] <wols_> lazynano: you just managed to get ignored by the people who are most likely to help you. congratulations!
[14:17] <ompaul> !resolution | apurva ( myScreenNameIsDi
[14:17] <ubotu> apurva ( myScreenNameIsDi: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:18] <lazynano> i can't fix the right parameters and i does not connect to my isp have to figure out wich parameters i have to enter
[14:18] <apurva> ompaul it was downloaded and installed automatically by restricted drivers manager
[14:18] <icedtea> anyone install the server edition off the download cd?
[14:18] <lazynano> encrypting compressing dns etc
[14:18] <apurva> thanx ubotu i have done that
[14:19] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small, it seems the padding/spacing is missing
[14:19] <ompaul> apurva, then perhaps that mode of operation is not available and the bot was instructed to tell you that by me
[14:19] <moimiolos> oi
[14:19] <apurva> ok :)
[14:19] <zero_> so, is there anyone here that can help me with power management?
[14:19] <ompaul> !pt | moimiolos
[14:19] <ubotu> moimiolos: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:19] <moimiolos> obrigado
[14:19] <apurva> ompaul so is there any solution to it
[14:20] <ompaul> apurva, no idea I gave you the two things that help most X users
[14:20] <apurva> ok thanks ompaul
[14:21] <wols_> apurva: pastebin your xorg.conf
[14:21] <obfusco> lazynano: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4426912 looks something like what you are talking about
[14:22] <apurva> wols_ # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[14:22] <apurva> #
[14:22] <apurva> # This file was generated by failsafeDexconf, using
[14:22] <apurva> # values from the debconf database and some overrides to use vesa mode.
[14:22] <apurva> #
[14:22] <apurva> # You should use dexconf or another such tool for creating a "real" xorg.conf
[14:22] <apurva> # For example:
[14:22] <apurva> #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[14:22] <apurva> Section "Files"
[14:22] <apurva> EndSection
[14:22] <wols_> ompaul: please quiet him
[14:22] <apurva> Section "Module"
[14:22] <apurva> 	Load		"glx"
[14:22] <apurva> 	Load		"v4l"
[14:22] <apurva> EndSection
[14:22] <apurva> Section "InputDevice"
[14:22] <apurva> 	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
[14:22] <wols_> apurva: I said pastebin. lclose your IRC NOW
[14:23] <ompaul> !pastbin apurva
[14:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin apurva - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:23] <wols_> !pastebin
[14:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:25] <zero_> so, is there anyone here that can help me with power management? i use my laptop for work (trying to get more clients to switch to Ubuntu) but it keeps almost dying on me
[14:25] <wols_> !acpi
[14:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:25] <wols_> zero_: acpi would do what you want usually
[14:25] <wols_> for starters, is acpid running?
[14:26] <wols_> apurva: now give us the url
[14:26] <zero_> wols_, how do i get it to work?
[14:26] <sarixe> hi, i just realized my core 2 duo is 64-bit.  would it make sense to stay on an x86 system, or got to x86-64 and run a 32bit emulation layer type thing?
[14:26] <apurva> wols_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57933/
[14:26] <ompaul> !bootoptions | zero_ (you might find this useful)
[14:26] <ubotu> zero_ (you might find this useful): For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[14:27] <zero_> thanks ompaul
[14:27] <wols_> apurva: do you want any mode except 1440x900?
[14:27] <Mr_Psychopath> Hello
[14:27] <wols_> sarixe: how much RAM do you have?
[14:27] <sarixe> 3gb
[14:27] <wols_> sarixe: that is an ODD number
[14:27] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi, I need to downgrade libc6 from 2.7-5ubuntu2(now) to 2.6.1-1ubuntu10 (gutsy-updates). How do I do this?
[14:27] <sarixe> meh
[14:27] <Mr_Psychopath> Go to Synaptic
[14:28] <Mr_Psychopath> click "Packages"
[14:28] <sarixe> so what does that mean?
[14:28] <wols_> sarixe: do you 4GB and only 3G are currently usable?
[14:28] <Mr_Psychopath> then "Force Version"
[14:28] <sarixe> no, i have 3gb
[14:28] <apurva> wols_ i set the display to 1280x800
[14:28] <wols_> RootyRootRootW00: you cannot downgrade with apt
[14:28] <sarixe> i know this because i ordered it this way
[14:28] <wols_> RootyRootRootW00: only manually. why do you have 2.7-5?
[14:28] <ompaul> RootyRootRootW00, it is so core to the os that it would be faster to backup all your data and do a fresh install
[14:28] <Mr_Psychopath> That's not true, I've downgraded through Synaptic before.
[14:28] <wols_> apurva: is your LCD using that res natively?
[14:29] <RootyRootRootW00> wols_: I was trying to get my new ipod classic to work and farked eveything up
[14:29] <wols_> Mr_Psychopath: apt doesn't support downgrades
[14:29] <BigDaddy> Good Morning all. This is not an Ubuntu specific question really. I am wanting to make a simple modification to a metacity window decoration. I can't fund much on this. Is there an IRC channel for this?
[14:29] <RootyRootRootW00> ompaul: Really? That bad. I'll do it if necessary
[14:29] <Mr_Psychopath> Wols_: But synaptic does.
[14:29] <apurva> wols_ :no it gets reverted to 800x600
[14:29] <wols_> Mr_Psychopath: it cannot. the debs are the same
[14:29] <moimiolos> can you see me?
[14:29] <moimiolos> excuse me
[14:29] <ompaul> RootyRootRootW00, you really have no alternative
[14:29] <ompaul> moimiolos, we can
[14:29] <moimiolos> thanks
[14:29] <Mr_Psychopath> wols: I've done it many times before, it's called "Force Version"
[14:29] <Lunar_Lamp> !mod_perl
[14:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mod_perl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:29] <wols_> Mr_Psychopath: what if a config file changed? debconf will NOT be able o deal with it,breaking your system
[14:30] <ompaul> Mr_Psychopath, not with libc you won't
[14:30] <Mr_Psychopath> wols: Good point.
[14:30] <wols_> Mr_Psychopath: that is not a downgrade. and if you aren't careful you break your ubuntu
[14:30] <Mr_Psychopath> er
[14:30] <Mr_Psychopath> Alright, you've got me there.
[14:30] <sarixe> wols_ : is it bad that i have 3gb?  because i know i don't have 4
[14:30] <RootyRootRootW00> ompaul. Thanks: Do I use the regular gutsy CD or the Alternative CD?
[14:31] <wols_> sarixe: not bad, just odd. x86-64 usually gets useful at 4GB since that is an amount a normal 32bit install usually can't use. for a desktop 64bit is a hassle since theris no java plugin or flash plugin
[14:31] <ompaul> RootyRootRootW00, your call both give the same end result
[14:31] <wols_> sarixe: ubuntu itself works but some prorpietary stuff doesn't
[14:31] <sarixe> wols_ : so it's probably better to stay in 32-bit then?
[14:32] <wols_> sarixe: yes
[14:32] <ompaul> sarixe, 32bit with 4G on board and loose the last few k
[14:32] <Lunar_Lamp> Gah, what's the mod_perl package for ubuntu called?
[14:32] <sarixe> wols_ : alright, thanks
[14:32] <RootyRootRootW00> ompaul: What is the bash command to list all my hard drive partitions? I think I put my home folder on a seperate partition
[14:32] <icedtea> anyone install the server edition off the download cd?
[14:32] <wols_> sarixe: do you have onboard graphics or a vga card?
[14:32] <wols_> !anyone | icedtea
[14:32] <ubotu> icedtea: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:32] <wols_> RootyRootRootW00: df  or fdisk -l
[14:32] <sarixe> wols_ : i definitely remember ordering only 3gb, and it's a laptop with nvidia 8600gt
[14:33] <moimiolos> how can i register my nick?
[14:33] <ompaul> RootyRootRootW00, btw loose that nick it is  just silly - see wols_ on that one ahd df -h if you want it in human readable form
[14:33] <ompaul> !register | moimiolos
[14:33] <ubotu> moimiolos: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[14:33] <icedtea> anyone install the server edition off the download cd? is it like the live cd? can you drop down to a tty and ran cmdline utilities like iptables?
[14:33] <RootyRootRootW00> wols_ Thanks, is working
[14:33] <obfusco> Lunar_Lamp: aptitude search mod-perl
[14:33] <XenSA> anybody use vinagre for vnc?
[14:33] <Lunar_Lamp> obfusco, gah, I've searched for mod_perl and modperl :-(
[14:34] <wols_> sarixe: a i386 cpu can use up to 4GB. however it also needs to accomodate your 8600gt. so for your the usable memory with 4GB would be 4GB-size of 8600gt memory under 32bit
[14:34] <obfusco> Lunar_Lamp: yah, took me a moment too
[14:34] <moimiolos> thanks
[14:34] <sarixe> icedtea : go to a tty by pressing: ctrl-alt-f#, # being the tty number
[14:34] <moimiolos>  !register | moimiolos
[14:34] <ePax> How do i convert .ogg to .avi?
[14:34] <wols_> but since you "Only" have 3GB you can use all of your 3GB. e.g. I ahve a 512MB 8600gt and can only use 3.5GB
[14:34] <ompaul> !3rdparty | RootyRootRootWoo
[14:34] <ubotu> RootyRootRootWoo: Packages contained in 3rd party repositories are not included in Ubuntu for a reason. Whether this be poor packaging standards, bugs or malicious authors. You should trust the maintainers of these repositories before using them. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297814 for consequences.
[14:34] <icedtea> sarixe: doesn't work for the live desktop cd on 7.10, does it work for the server cd?
[14:35] <wols_> ePax: ogg is a audio container, avi is a video container.. apples and oranges
[14:35] <obfusco> ePax: unless you mean .ogm or .ogv
[14:35] <ePax> wols actually its video
[14:35] <sarixe> icedtea : it should have worked...
[14:35] <wols_> ePax: then it's ogm
[14:35] <KojiroS> i like apples and oragnes ^_^
[14:35] <ePax> No its ogg
[14:35] <jen> hi
[14:35] <wols_> ePax: "file  file.ogg"
[14:35] <KojiroS> i dont like oggs, :( i like eggs though :)
[14:35] <wols_> ePax: run that. what does it say?
[14:36] <ePax> wols_: Yes file.ogg
[14:36] <sarixe> wols_ : so you're saying that if i had 4gb, i would have some lost memory, but since i have 3gb, it's all usable?
[14:36] <ompaul> !offtopic | KojiroS
[14:36] <ubotu> KojiroS: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:36] <icedtea> sarixe: I just get a blank screen, then I can't switch back, tried a few computers with different hardware, same result
[14:36] <wols_> ePax: the extension is irrelevant in linux. what does the "file" command say=?
[14:36] <wols_> sarixe: yes
[14:36] <ePax> wols_: I can play it on my VLC or Mplayer as video but i want to convert it to avi
[14:36] <sarixe> icedtea : try a few different f buttons
[14:36] <sarixe> wols_ : alright, then i'll just stay on 32-bit, thanks
[14:36] <ePax> wols_: I dont get you actually
[14:36] <wols_> ePax: vlc and mplayer play audio files too. either you asnwer my question or stop talking to me please
[14:37] <wols_> ePax: there is a command named "file"
[14:37] <KojiroS> gomene, i actually have a problem installing modem drivers on ubuntu linux 7.10 says cannot find specific directory :(
[14:37] <ePax> wols_: I use record my desktop and it saves files as .ogg
[14:37] <wols_> ePax: stop talking to me"
[14:37] <ompaul> !winmodem | KojiroS
[14:37] <ubotu> KojiroS: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[14:37] <ePax> ?
[14:37] <TelnetManta> How can I change GRUB to boot from my first partition instead of my second?
[14:38] <wols_> TelnetManta: edit your memu.lst
[14:38] <TelnetManta> I have the grub files on both partitions
[14:38] <obfusco> ePax: it shouldnt use ogg, but for converting you can use mencoder or vlc
[14:38] <Roooty> ompaul: Can you please tell me which partition I'm going to install gutsy onto? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57937/
[14:38] <ePax> wols_: Then why did you answer at first place
[14:38] <KojiroS> yep got all the drivers and verfied what modem i have, installing through terminal is the prblem :(
[14:38] <icedtea> sarixe: tried that. its very strange.
[14:38] <wols_> TelnetManta: you mean laod grub itself from 1st partition? man grub-install
[14:38] <ePax> obfusco: Shall i use other extention when recording?
[14:38] <ompaul> ePax, you have not worked with the user who was helping you, the info they asked for you did not reply with
[14:38] <TelnetManta> wols_: I can boot my second partition but it still reads the /boot folder from my second.
[14:38] <wols_> TelnetManta: you need to reinstall rgub basically
[14:39] <TelnetManta> wols_: I mean I can boot my FIRST partition but it uses the files from the second
[14:39] <wols_> TelnetManta: no other way. see grub-install for example
[14:39] <TelnetManta> k
[14:39] <TelnetManta> kk
[14:39] <ePax> ompaul: I didnt get his point at first about "file" something. Whatever
[14:39] <XenSA> anyone can help with vinagre not connecting to vnc sessions ?
[14:39] <ePax> ompaul: Thnx for help anyways
[14:39] <ompaul> ePax, he told you it was a command - file thefileyouwerelookingat.ogg
[14:40] <panfist> in the wikipedia description of AIGLX they say it works like this: "This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol." Does this mean if I have an ubuntu server with no 3d graphics, and a desktop with 3d graphics, I can remote into the server and play 3d games on the server but rendered locally?
[14:40] <moimiolos> :)
[14:40] <wols_> panfist: of course
[14:40] <Pirate_Hunter> hi trying to get epsxe to work  for the kids but for some reason after following the instructions and changing the directory I cant seem to get it to work... who is in the mood to help me figure out the problem?
[14:40] <wols_> X is fully network transparent
[14:40] <ompaul> Roooty, /dev/sda4   is not to be formatted but to be honest I would back up the useful data and format it again and start from there
[14:40] <wols_> !ask | Pirate_Hunter
[14:40] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:41] <obfusco> ePax: look up a howto for mencoder, should have all that you need
[14:41] <ompaul> Roooty, if you use a "new" username I could justify not formatting that partition
[14:41] <panfist> wols_ ok im going to try something crazy. i want to play dungeon keeper 2, which doesnt run very well on XP but my server is ubuntu, and dungeon keeper works fine in wine. i'm going to try to remote into my server to play dungeon keeper over RDMCP/AIGLX/WINE
[14:42] <cew_xmp_imoet> hai
[14:42] <wols_> panfist: good luck
[14:42] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: kk I explained the problem can you help
[14:42] <Roooty> ompaul: of course! will back up all data (is easy with multiple hds).
[14:42] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: no you did not. until you do no one can help
[14:42] <cew_xmp_imoet> oi
[14:43] <cew_xmp_imoet> celine dion
[14:43] <XenSA> i cannot connect to a vnc session with vinagre but xncviewer works fine any one have same problem..
[14:43] <panfist> wols_ how do i know i'm using AIGLX?
[14:43] <Roooty> ompual: waaait: you mean my XChat name or my ubuntu login? what is wrong w/ either?
[14:43] <wols_> cew_xmp_imoet: do you have a ubuntu related problem
[14:43] <cew_xmp_imoet> yes
[14:43] <wols_> panfist: your xorg log will tell you. but to be hones I have no clue if xming supports 3D. I doubt it
[14:44] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: hmm tru you make snese, basically the file that has been unzipped has instructions to follow but all it requires is that I change the epsexe directory based upon my /, well i done that and still cnat get it to work - hope that helps
[14:44] <ompaul> Roooty, that makes more sense have fun
[14:44] <panfist> wols_ ahhh i see
[14:44] <youtux> hi, is there a method that permit me to share the sound card on my desktop in lan with my laptop?
[14:44] <wols_> !doesn't work | Pirate_Hunter
[14:44] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[14:44] <panfist> wols_ what about some other method of remote desktop like cygwin
[14:44] <Roooty> ompaul: will do!
[14:45] <cew_xmp_imoet> i dont what talking about
[14:45] <wols_> panfist: that uses xming. I'd try to run virtualbox on windows and linux inside that. it supposedtly has hardware3D now for guests. you could try it
[14:45] <wols_> youtux: some network sound daemon. most advanced is pulseaudio which will be in hardy
[14:45] <XenSA> does any one here use vinagre for vnc sessions???
[14:45] <ompaul> Roooty, and drop by before you start breaking stuff - btw do this first - update all your systems
[14:45] <wols_> !anyone | XenSA
[14:45] <ubotu> XenSA: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:45] <panfist> wols_ from the wiki article: xming now comes with mesa3d support...that's opengl right?
[14:45] <wok> how can i list all the existing users via terminal?
[14:46] <youtux> is it to difficult to do?
[14:46] <wols_> panfist: software3D.... tho for dungeonkeeper it might work if your CPU is good enough
[14:46] <wols_> yell0w: advanced imho, yes
[14:46] <panfist> wols_ the CPU of my server or the clien
[14:46] <wols_> youtux: advanced imho, yes
[14:46] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: there are two files "install.sh" which links up to "start_epsexe.sh" which runs the .exe of psx. On both files I have edited the directories however when I click on start_epsxe and run it from terminal it basically just opens and shuts terminal... cnat expain any better than this :(
[14:46] <cew_xmp_imoet> oi
[14:46] <cew_xmp_imoet> oi
[14:46] <cew_xmp_imoet> help me
[14:46] <wols_> panfist: X server. that's where it displays. and don't even thing to try under a 100Mbit connection
[14:47] <youtux> thank you..
[14:47] <wols_> ompaul: can you lease "help" cew_xmp_imoet to be ontopic?
[14:47] <obfusco> wok: all existing users or all logged in users?
[14:47] <wols_> *please
[14:47] <panfist> wols_ it's gigabit and the xserver is running on a 3.4ghz dualcore penryn
[14:47] <jpatrick> !ask | cew_xmp_imoet
[14:47] <ubotu> cew_xmp_imoet: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:47] <nettow>  i just re-installed 7.10 but
[14:47] <nettow>  I have no sound....
[14:47] <nettow>  It worked before
[14:47] <wols_> panfist: chances are good :)
[14:47] <wok> obfusco: all existing users
[14:47] <panfist> wols_ i'll give it a shot and let you know if I can get it working soon
[14:47] <ompaul> wols_, ack
[14:47] <cew_xmp_imoet> woi help me
[14:47] <ompaul> !help | cew_xmp_imoet
[14:47] <ubotu> cew_xmp_imoet: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:48] <chiwawa_42> may someone explain me why this idea : http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/2179/ gets negative votes ? Is that because only home users and geeks are around or because it has a serious flaw ?
[14:48] <BurningPanda> hi people. im having problems to show a videofile on my tv from a ubuntu .  anyone that can point me into the right direcction?
[14:48] <cew_xmp_imoet> bukan itun
[14:48] <wols_> BurningPanda: tvout works at all?
[14:48] <obfusco> wok: the file /etc/passwd holds user info
[14:48] <scuizi> Pirate_Hunter: so you downloaded a program and unpacked/unzipped it into a directory.. sounds like it needs install  try "sh install.sh" or ./install.sh to see what happens
[14:48] <BurningPanda> wols_ im not sure
[14:48] <wok> obfusco: thanks
[14:48] <wols_> ompaul: did he insult your mother?
[14:48] <lunks> How do I know what modules are being used by the kernel? I believe there are 3 wireless drivers that can be used for my wireless card, and I'd like to know which is being used
[14:48] <ompaul> wols_, no idea
[14:49] <wols_> BurningPanda: that's the first step. done by editing xorg.conf
[14:49] <Pirate_Hunter> scuizi: i have done all that I guess its better if i used pastebin with the read me and sample of both files, well give me a sec to post them
[14:50] <brobostigon> lunks: dmesg should tell you what driver is connected to your adaptor
[14:50] <MDK332211> Do I just sudo apt-get install vncserver to install a VNC server?
[14:50] <lunks> brobostigon, dahhh yes it should, i completely forgot it =) thank you
[14:50] <scuizi> Pirate_Hunter: k
[14:50] <ere4si> lunks: there is lsmod
[14:51] <BurningPanda> wols_ where is this file located
[14:51] <BurningPanda> ?
[14:51] <wols_> BurningPanda: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:51] <wols_> but google for a howto first
[14:51] <wols_> BurningPanda: if you mess it up you don't have X anymore
[14:52] <BurningPanda> howto conect tv to ubuntu?
[14:52] <BurningPanda> what would be the searchstring?
[14:52] <ompaul> !mythtv | BurningPanda
[14:52] <Devourer> Is there something similar to Windows Movie Maker for Ubuntu?
[14:52] <ubotu> BurningPanda: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[14:52] <scuizi> BurningPanda: use www.google.com/linux to narrow search to linux items..  try tv out on ubuntu
[14:52] <s0u][ight> people i can't get my keyboard and touchpad working on my laptop after grub loading can someone help me?
[14:53] <Bad_boy> ls -a
[14:53] <ere4si> s0u][ight, what model notebook?
[14:53] <snypzz> what kind of laptop
[14:53] <s0u][ight> hp
[14:53] <s0u][ight> it normally worked
[14:54] <s0u][ight> but just after a reboot it stopped working
[14:54] <snypzz> how old hp
[14:54] <s0u][ight> less then a year
[14:54] <jtravnick> has anytbody loaded 7.10 on an acer aspire 3000?
[14:54] <s0u][ight> hp g5002 ea
[14:54] <amenado> s0u][ight-> you have the old xorg.conf ? use that to recover
[14:55] <ompaul> !anyone | jtravnick
[14:55] <ubotu> jtravnick: In place of  "Does anyone/anybody...", please be aware, one persons expert is another persons beginner, please ask your question in full, then see who does!
[14:55] <s0u][ight> :| i can't use my keyboard and my touchpad after the grub menu
[14:55] <bazhang> jtravnick: you having any issues or just curious
[14:55] <s0u][ight> how can i change those?
[14:56] <amenado> s0u][ight-> you did some kind of upgrade?
[14:56] <jtravnick> bazhang, curious right now debating on eather using ubuntu or fedora8 on it
[14:56] <s0u][ight> yes to hardy but that's not the problem cuz i upgraded a while ago
[14:56] <s0u][ight> my old an new kernel both givve the same result
[14:56] <Aranel> Why Ubuntu using NVIDIA Driver 100.14.19 instead of 169.12.xx ?
[14:56] <amenado> !who | s0u][ight
[14:56] <ubotu> s0u][ight: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[14:56] <jtravnick> bazhang, have fedora6 on it right now was wondering if I would run into issues
[14:57] <bazhang> jtravnick: just a second let me check something
[14:57] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: will you finally properly descirbe what errors/problems you have? in detail?
[14:57] <snypzz> running 7.10 on a DELL did you run the updates on 7.10
[14:57] <Pirate_Hunter> cna someone look at the pastebin and help me workout why epsxe refuses to work - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57940/
[14:57] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: good start
[14:57] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: pls look at my hyperlink as it shows what ive been trying to do
[14:57] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> a good summary is another thing to do..explain man
[14:57] <ompaul> !id | cew_xmp_imoet
[14:58] <ubotu> cew_xmp_imoet: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[14:58] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: still no error of what you see
[14:58] <bazhang> http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/hosted/acer-aspire-3000-ubuntu-gutsy.html jtravnick there is probably something there about fedora 8 as well ;]
[14:58] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: what is the FULL filename of that .sh file?
[14:59] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: and the FULL path of the "epsxe" (whout .sh) binary?
[14:59] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: cant explain any better than that the directories have been changed as stated on the read me file and when i click on the start_epsxe file it open terminal quickly and shuts it down and i cnat even read if theer are any messages, its supposed to run epsxe
[14:59] <jtravnick> bazhang, thanks didnt see that link but than i was looking around in the forum at the time i thought about putting it on the laptop
[14:59] <kestaz> how wih dia draw mysql tables ?
[15:00] <kestaz> DIA
[15:00] <kestaz> which tool to use to draw mysql tables ?
[15:00] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: the directory should be /home/suzzy/ePSXE and thats what ive done
[15:00] <wols_> kestaz: why draw them?
[15:00] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> can you edit with vi that start_epsxe file?
[15:00] <kestaz> wols_: it's possible with DIA ?
[15:00] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: I didn't ask wht the dir should be, I ask where the files I asked about are. are they in there. yes or no?
[15:00] <s0u][ight> amenado can u help?
[15:01] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: im using gedit to edit it
[15:01] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: yes there are in there they came already premade
[15:01] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> what is the very first line?
[15:01] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: open a terminal
[15:01] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: done
[15:02] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: run "start_epsxe.sh"
[15:02] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: huh? what line?
[15:02] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: no line. igore it. it has /bin/bash there just fine
[15:03] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> you said you were in edit mode of the script, then i am looking for /bin/bash  and add -x  to put it in debug mode, so when you run it, it displays step by step
[15:03] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: all i get is the error message command not found, any ideas
[15:03] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: so what does it put out?
[15:03] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, take help from one not two people you will be confused
[15:03] <wols_> yes. ls -l /usr/local/bin/start*
[15:03] <amenado> s0u][ight-> is there a safe mode selection? try that
[15:04] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: im currently following wols but amenado si trying to help
[15:04] <s0u][ight> ok
[15:04] <s0u][ight> brb
[15:04] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> you can follow him, am adding extra value added feature, so you see what happens when you execute
[15:04] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: do you want me to do that ls -l /usr/local/bin/start* or is that for someone else
[15:04] <GiddyKong> hey how would i go about installing xwinwrap?
[15:04] <panfist> can anyone help me figure out how to enable aiglx? anything i search for aiglx in google comes up for edgy and older
[15:05] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: it'S for you
[15:05] <wols_> panfist: what xserver?
[15:05] <prashant> my bluetooth not detect in other system having other os
[15:06] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: no such directory or file found, i think something i did went wrong
[15:06] <panfist> wols_ im sorry that was a bad question...i'll have some stuff to pastebin in a sec
[15:06] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: ls -l /usr/local/bin  does that exist?
[15:06] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: nope
[15:06] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: you need to copy oyour start_epsxe.sh file to /usr/local/bin
[15:06] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: mkdir /usr/loca/bin  (you need to be root)
[15:07] <ele-mugv_> application for .mdf/.mds images?
[15:07] <prashant> my bluetooth not detect in other system having other os
[15:07] <wols_> ele-mugv_: none
[15:07] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: local/bin exists not the start part as you mentioned
[15:07] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: we only support ubuntu, not "other os"
[15:07] <ele-mugv_> lol..
[15:08] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: local/bin is nonsense. does /usr/local/bin exist? it should
[15:08] <wols_> prashant: we only support ubuntu, not "other os"
[15:08] <ele-mugv_> iso to mds/mdf converters?
[15:08] <prashant> ya my os is ubuntu
[15:08] <prashant> hi wols
[15:08] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: /usr/local/bin exists and it holds a vidalia file
[15:08] <ele-mugv_> iso to mds/mdf converters?
[15:08] <ere4si> ele-mugv, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600193
[15:09] <ele-mugv_> thanks
[15:09] <prashant> wols r u getting me
[15:09] <ere4si> k
[15:09] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: good. now copy the start-epsxe.sh file to /usr/local/bin
[15:09] <Trondern> my system is broken after innstalling ubuntu, i get a grub 22 error, windows is on hd0,0 and linux on hd1,6. when doind as said in ubuntu forum using grub in terminal i only find the booot files in hd1 but i suspect i need to have them on hd0 to be able to boot?? :*(
[15:09] <wols_> prashant: no one is getting you
[15:09] <wols_> Trondern: not really
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[15:09] <IndyGunFreak> Trondern: its not really broken, you just need to reinstall it from the Live CD.
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[15:09] <wols_> Trondern: do you get the grub menu at the beginning?
[15:10] <Trondern> nope
[15:10] <panfist> i'm trying to get AIGLX running in xming. here's my xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57945, and my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57946
[15:10] <Trondern> only grub error 22 msg
[15:10] <wols_> then you need to reinstall grub with the install cd
[15:10] <wols_> !greb | Trondern
[15:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about greb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:10] <wols_> prashant: xming is not ubuntu
[15:10] <Pestrac> some channel in spanish?
[15:10] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: how do i do that through terminal othewise ill have to gksudo nautilus
[15:10] <wols_> panfist: xming is not ubuntu. we cannot and will not help you. ask elsewhere
[15:10] <Trondern> i did wols_ but i didnt help
[15:10] <wols_> panfist: cp <sourcefile>  /usr/local/bin    as root
[15:11] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | Trondern
[15:11] <ubotu> Trondern: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:11] <Trondern> i followed the error 22 guide on ubuntu forums
[15:11] <wols_> Trondern: did with what command exactly?
[15:11] <BillyJoe_> wow so dos that meen he can never come back on here?
[15:11] <panfist> wols_ well i'm guessing if I can get it to run in ubuntu, when I remote in it will work just like it was running locally
[15:11] <wols_> it means he can never ask non ubuntu questions here
[15:11] <IndyGunFreak> billybob: for that sort ofthing, probably
[15:11] <DaveEngland> hello! can anybody tell me, how can i make, that ubuntu will recognize my windows hard drives? pls help!ž
[15:11] <wols_> panfist: I doN't care what you guess. xmwing support is OT
[15:12] <Trondern> root (hd***)
[15:12] <Trondern> root (hd***)
[15:12] <wols_> Trondern: I want the EXACT command
[15:12] <wols_> the FULL command
[15:12] <Trondern> ok
[15:12] <simplexio> DaveEngland: google ntfs-3g
[15:12] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: done now what happens next?
[15:12] <panfist> wols_ fine forget i even mentioned xming, how do i get aiglx locally and natively
[15:12] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[15:12] <Trondern> sudo grub first
[15:12] <simplexio> DaveEngland: thoght for me ubuntu made it automatically
[15:12] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions DaveEngland
[15:13] <wols_> panfist: I cannot forget your trying to circumvent support policies. no go away and don't ask me underhandedly anymore
[15:13] <wols_> good day
[15:13] <IndyGunFreak> Gutsy has always automatically mounted my NTFS partitions
[15:13] <DaveEngland> bazhang,  hello!
[15:13] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: ls -i /usr/local/bin/start*
[15:13] <bazhang> simplexio: you can /msg ubotu ntfs-3g (and others) for fun links--no need for google here ;]
[15:14] <efren30> hey can any one help me i have ubuntu just installed and i go to system >administration>synaptic>search compiz and it says there wer allready installed but it dosent show the the program in visual effects help please
[15:14] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: give me the line it outputs about the script
[15:14] <bazhang> DaveEngland: heya ;]
[15:14] <wols_> efren30: what videocard do you use and what drivers for it?
[15:14] <bazhang> efren30: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:14] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: 41021 /usr/local/bin/start_epsxe.sh -  thats the line have no clue what it means
[15:15] <wols_> fabio: there is more on that line
[15:15] <panfist> just because i am going to learn how to do something natively and then apply the same technique to another problem doesn't change the fact that i still have no idea how to enable aiglx natively and locally. none of the guides mention AIGLX in regards to feisty at all, only edgy or dapper. i'm not being subversive or underhanded, there is a hole in the documentation in regards to feisty and AIGLX and I'm seeking help
[15:15] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: it's the same output as "dir" under windows or DOS
[15:15] <fabio> ??
[15:15] <szx0> When configuring linux software RAID, do you to turn off hardware RAID? (i.e., I have nVIDIA chipset and previously had a RAID 1 setup, I configured the linux software RAID but now when I restart I am getting a "DISK BOOT FAILURE". I think it's because I still have the nVIDIA chipset RAID set to 1)
[15:15] <wols_> szx0: yes
[15:15] <amenado> efren30-> if you go to System->Preference->Apearance  last tab Visual Effects, what do you have selected?
[15:15] <szx0> wols_, thank you
[15:16] <fabio> wols is a bot i suppose
[15:16] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: sorry where you explaining what it means or trying to ask me a question?
[15:16] <wols_> surrounder: you also can't have your boot/ partition on the raid
[15:16] <efren30> bazhang:yesterday i had it runing perfect was messing around wih the visual effects and it told me to dump memory so i reinstall ubuntu and now it says its been installed but doesent show it
[15:16] <bazhang> panfist: then help us all out and add to the wiki ;]
[15:16] <efren30> yesterday i had it runing perfect was messing around wih the visual effects and it told me to dump memory so i reinstall ubuntu and now it says its been installed but doesent show it
[15:16] <amenado> panfist and it seem the expertise is not here at the moment, so be patient or come back few hours later
[15:16] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: telling you what it means. I am still waiting for the full paste of the line
[15:16] <panfist> bazhang as soon as i figure out what to do
[15:17] <efren30> amenado:yesterday i had it runing perfect was messing around wih the visual effects and it told me to dump memory so i reinstall ubuntu and now it says its been installed but doesent show it
[15:17] <wols_> amenado: he is trying to configure his windows like he does his ubuntu. theris never expertise for that in here. it's OT
[15:17] <bazhang> aiglx is very substandard with ati (ati, right?)
[15:17] <wols_> bazhang: yes
[15:17] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: thanx but thats all you're getting, thats all it gives me when using that command
[15:17] <panfist> i believe my problem is as simple as I need to log in with a window manager that supports AIGLX because the default gnome session for feisty does not, correct?
[15:17] <bazhang> oops panfist aiglx is very substandard with ati
[15:17] <bazhang> wols_: thanks! ;]
[15:17] <amenado> efren30-> if you go to System->Preference->Apearance  last tab Visual Effects, what do you have selected?
[15:17] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: pastebin the full output incl. the command you run and the prompt afterwards. all of it
[15:18] <wols_> bazhang: it is irrelevant. he runs xming,. not xorg
[15:18] <amenado> panfist and it seem the expertise is not here at the moment, so be patient or come back few hours later
[15:18] <bazhang> wols_: aha cheers
[15:18] <efren30> bazhang:yesterday i had it runing perfect was messing around wih the visual effects and it told me to dump memory so i reinstall ubuntu and now it says its been installed but doesent show it
[15:19] <wols_> efren30: repeating uselessinformation doesn't make it better
[15:19] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: im confused but do you mean this ~/ePSXe$ ls -i /usr/local/bin/start*
[15:19] <Pirate_Hunter> 41021 /usr/local/bin/start_epsxe.sh, otherwise which command?
[15:19] <amenado> efren30->  i asked you, what does it show?
[15:19] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: ls ll   a lowercase L. not i
[15:19] <wols_> ls -l
[15:19] <rinaldi_> a data dvd has bad sectors and many music files are not played back properly. in windoze i used a program called cdcheck to recover all the files. is there a similar linux program?
[15:19] <wols_> efren30: and I asked you what videocard and driver you use
[15:19] <bazhang> efren30: you reinstalled? likely next time you should not do that--but come here first to work through your issues--have you reinstalled the 3d drivers for your card?
[15:19] <onerom> hello
[15:19] <wols_> rinaldi_: bad sectors can't be recovered. they're BAD
[15:20] <fabio> wols !!!
[15:20] <bazhang> efren30: also a good idea to answer people who are asking you questions
[15:20] <efren30> amendo:all it shows now is extra before i reinstalled ubuntu it showed config custom or somthing under extra but that was before i reinstalled ubunut
[15:20] <wols_> fabio: what is? do you have a ontopic question?
[15:20] <wols_> efren30: answer me please
[15:20] <efren30> wols:nop havent
[15:20] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, wols_ is correctly saying, you are giving information that is incomplete -- from the first command prompt to the last one is what wols_ wants
[15:21] <wols_> efren30: haven't what?
[15:21] <rinaldi_> wols_: yeh i know, its something like bad checksums i think, cdcheck either missed them out or did something. anyways it made it work. what sthe best data recovery app if any?
[15:21] <amenado> efren30-> is the extra selected or none?
[15:21] <efren30> wols:havent reinstalled video card
[15:21] <wols_> ompaul: mainly I want my commands I give to be executed like I say, not otherwise. l instead of i
[15:21] <efren30> amenado:is on extra
[15:21] <wols_> efren30: what videocard is it?
[15:21] <efren30> wols:comand to check?
[15:21] <wols_> lspci
[15:22] <wols_> fscking pre sunday!
[15:22] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, case of letter not L but lower case one which is I
[15:22] <amenado> efren30-> i think you may need to install those video card with 3-D capabilities as others are suggesting
[15:22] <wols_> bedlam closed for the weekend and let the inmates out
[15:22] <ompaul> wols_, have a cuppa ;-)
[15:22] <wols_> ompaul: I already told him
[15:22] <bazhang> haha
[15:22] <ompaul> ack
[15:22] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: well this is what i get but changing -i to -l  ~/ePSXe$ ~/ePSXe$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/start*
[15:22] <Pirate_Hunter> bash: /home/adilson/ePSXe$: No such file or directory
[15:22] <wols_> *sigh*
[15:23] <wols_> someone SHOOT me. NOW
[15:23] <efren30> wols:do i post everything here?
[15:23] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: ls -l /usr/local/bin/start*
[15:23] <amenado> efren30-> on pastebin..not here
[15:23] <wols_> !paste | efren30
[15:23] <ubotu> efren30: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:23] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, are you cut and paste what wols_ gave you not what you are typing
[15:24]  * danand hands wols_ a stressball :)
[15:24] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, left mouse click and highlight - deliver it to the terminal with a middle button mouse click
[15:24] <s0u][ight> hello the recovery mode helped me with my keyboard and mouse but when i reboot and do the normal start it doesn't work again :|
[15:24] <ompaul> Roooty,  please join the channel with the short nick
[15:24] <skipp> any warsow people present?
[15:24] <ompaul> !pl | skipp
[15:24] <ubotu> skipp: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[15:25] <skipp> ompaul: now in english plZ
[15:25] <skipp> ;-)
[15:25] <efren30> wols:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57951/
[15:25] <nox-Hand> How do I make a python file execute at bootup?
[15:25] <GiddyKong> lol really stupid question but how do i add a custom resolution?
[15:25] <EnvoyRising> has anyone used knapster/gnapster? (i know that there are bit torrent clients, frostwire etc) but i'm trying to go legit, and I liked napster back on windows
[15:25] <erUSUL_> !modes | GiddyKong
[15:25] <ubotu> GiddyKong: There are many different channel and user modes on !freenode. Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[15:25] <wols_> efren30: glxinfo | less  output please
[15:26] <amenado> s0u][ight-> do this, when you are in the grub menu and about to select recovery...type  e  for edit and tell me what the options are? also arrow up to the non working selection and copy options so we can compare okay?
[15:26] <erUSUL_> GiddyKong: sorry wrong factoid
[15:26] <Roooty> Hi, I'm trying to backup my home directory with the "cp -r" command but it is giving me errors (can't create file, can't create symbolic link). How should I go about this?
[15:26] <TriEdge32> hey
[15:26] <TriEdge32> Hey all
[15:26] <wols_> EnvoyRising: napster is not legit. the new napster is not p2p
[15:26] <efren30> wols:so i comand glxinfo
[15:26] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: l~/ePSXe$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/start_epsxe.sh
[15:26] <Pirate_Hunter> -rwxrwxrwx 1 adilson adilson 427 2008-03-01 14:30 /usr/local/bin/start_epsxe.sh
[15:26] <wols_> efren30: amd they sell wma files with DRM, they don't run on ubuntu
[15:26] <ehird> Package fvwm95 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[15:26] <ehird> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[15:26] <ehird> is only available from another source
[15:26] <ehird> :(
[15:27] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: good. not run "start_epsxe.sh"  hopefully it works
[15:27] <EnvoyRising> wols_, i know that. hence it is legit. from what i remember they actually have contracts with particular radio companies
[15:27] <ere4si> Rooty: where are you trying to copy to - do you have permission for it
[15:27] <EnvoyRising> record companies i mean. don't know why i said radio
[15:27] <wols_> EnvoyRising: doesn't matter. you cannot listen to DRMed wma files on ubuntu so your question is moot
[15:27] <skipp> could anyone plz tell me how to install warsow (unified.zip >> official website) any help would be very much appriciated
[15:27] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: now how do i actually run it, do i double click on the one in loca/bin or the one in the espxe folder?
[15:28] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: local/bin
[15:28] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: will try
[15:28] <EnvoyRising> wols_, i could have sworn napster allowed downloading of different formats. also, if it's mute, why is there a knapster package in repos?
[15:28] <wols_> !info knapster
[15:28] <ubotu> Package knapster does not exist in gutsy
[15:28] <wols_> EnvoyRising: come again?
[15:28] <EnvoyRising> nevermind, i think i found what i need-- lopster. thanks for the help, or lack there of
[15:28] <Roooty> ere4si: sorry, didn't see your response, you missed an 'o', I have permissions
[15:28] <tinman> wols_: hello
[15:28] <TriEdge32> Hey! I'm building a website, www.audacity.8k.ro. It contains audacious skins, but i need some help to develop it. I need some TEAM MEMBERS. Searchers, Testers and Advertisers. I need at last 5 members! So, ho wanna be a member?
[15:29] <efren30> wols: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2
[15:29] <arthurarchnix> I've just upgraded... before I reboot is there a way I can save the update output log?
[15:29] <wols_> EnvoyRising: lopster is NOT legit either
[15:29] <bazhang> TriEdge32: not here
[15:29] <EnvoyRising> wols_, would you like me to show you a screenshot? perhaps its because i'm using  backports or pre-release updates, but its in there
[15:29] <ere4si> Roooty: try cp -v  it will give you reasons
[15:29] <wols_> efren30: direct rendering: yes?
[15:29] <wols_> EnvoyRising: screenshot of what?
[15:29] <tinman> wols_: I managed to get everything but the mouse working, but I want to reinstall xserver-xorg, I cannot caoonect to the internet from the recovery shell, can I apt-get from a live cd and install it in my root partition (sda2) ?
[15:29] <TriEdge32> bazhan: But where? I thinked this is a good place because all of you use linux
[15:29] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: nope dont work I click on it and than choose run from terminal and the same happen, epsxe.exe doesnt popup
[15:29] <wols_> tinman: stop your spamming on this network
[15:30] <efren30> wols:how do i reinstall video card?
[15:30] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: .exe???
[15:30] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: what's the error?
[15:30] <tinman> wols_: ?
[15:30] <bazhang> TriEdge32: good way to get kicked ;]
[15:30] <wols_> efren30: why?
[15:30] <EnvoyRising> you piped me a bot saying the package didn't exist. i just searched for it and it does exist. are you suggesting that the to programs go off of the old napster model or what?
[15:30] <wols_> tinman: what happens if you boot nromally?
[15:30] <bazhang> efren30: from the restricted driver manager
[15:30] <TriEdge32> bazhang: Where may I can find some team members, that use Linux, normaly...
[15:30] <fabio> wols_ is a bot
[15:30] <wols_> bazhang: not intel drivers. they are open source
[15:30] <bazhang> TriEdge32: #linux perhaps
[15:30] <wols_> fabio: stop that
[15:30] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: it dont give error, terminal comes up than shuts down very fast and the start_epsxe.sh is supposed to run epsxe.exe in ubuntu
[15:31] <fabio> so he able to say sensible things
[15:31] <tinman> wols_: my xserver faled to load, you probably forgot but you were helping me yesterday with this
[15:31] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: run it in terminal
[15:31] <bazhang> fabio please quit it
[15:31] <wols_> tinman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg when it doesn't looad
[15:31] <efren30> wols:idk thats what amenaando sugested i want compiz back is in the dependancy
[15:31] <skipp> could anyone plz tell me how to install warsow (unified.zip >> official website) any help would be very much appriciated
[15:31] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> I suggested to you to add -x on the first line..  so you can see step by step
[15:31] <EnvoyRising> i was under the impression that only one bot was allowed here? the official ubuto bot or whatever it's called
[15:31] <tinman> wols_: yeah, did that didn't help
[15:31] <mroc> i have a second hard drive that doesn't mount during boot.  i double click on it in the Computer window and it mounts.  if i go to its properties, i can see the volume tab lists mount point, file system, and mount options.  how do i get it to mount during boot?  (if the answer is add it manually to fstab...how do i do that?)  thanks in advance
[15:31] <wols_> tinman: what is the Xorg.0.log
[15:32] <wols_> tinman: rather: what does it say? and what is your videocard?
[15:32] <EnvoyRising> nvm. lopster is ugly anyways..ack!
[15:32] <wols_> !fstab | mroc
[15:32] <ubotu> mroc: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[15:32] <bazhang> skipp: sudo apt-get install it
[15:32] <amenado> mroc-> you can copy similar entries in /etc/fstab   time to learn man
[15:32] <tinman> wols_: pasted that yesterday, you were not certain about things, I mentioned copying the xorg.conf from live cd since it's working on live cd
[15:32] <wols_> tinman: change your xorg.conf driver for the videocard to vesa
[15:32] <ele-mugv_> thanks a lot wols--converted the mdf to iso and used gmount
[15:32] <wols_> tinman: and then pastebin the xorg.conf
[15:33] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: which first line of which of the files
[15:33] <tinman> wols_: tried, i get to a login screen but mouse dosent work
[15:33] <skipp> bazhang: isn't the latest version, by apt-get 0.32 will be installed .. in mean while 0.42 is released
[15:33] <wols_> tinman: then pastebin the xorg.conf
[15:33] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: terminal gives me nothing
[15:33] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> you said you were in edit mode of the script, then i am looking for /bin/bash  and add -x  to put it in debug mode, so when you run it, it displays step by step
[15:33] <efren30> wols:idk thats what amenaando sugested i want compiz back is in the dependancy ima take a screeny so u see
[15:33] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: kk
[15:33] <efren30> wols:http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2636/screenshotat7.png
[15:33] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: that I don't believe. it gives you _something. maybe a command not found. pastbein it all of it
[15:33] <mroc> wols_: thanks - one more question:  should i just copy and paste the mount options listed on the volume tab and use those as the options in fstab?
[15:33] <bazhang> skipp: see if there is a deb first www.getdeb.net
[15:33] <tinman> wols_: I tried the conf that runs on live cd and also tried few mentioend in ubuntuforums, neither worked
[15:34] <ele-mugv_> thanks a lot wols--converted the mdf to iso and used gmount
[15:34] <GiddyKong> hahaha how do i save what i edited in nano?
[15:34] <wols_> moist: no. use defaults and depending on filesystem uid/gid
[15:34] <ele-mugv_> crtl + x
[15:34] <tinman> GiddyKong: ctrl + x
[15:34] <EnvoyRising> GiddyKong, ctrl + x
[15:34] <skipp> bazhang: also ... 0.32
[15:34] <GiddyKong> thanks ^^'
[15:34] <TriEdge32> bazhang: The laughet at me there, were else may I find some TEAM MEMBERS?
[15:34] <soc> hi
[15:34] <jrib> GiddyKong: ctrl-o to save, ctrl-x to exit (look at the bottom)
[15:34] <wols_> !ccsm | efren30
[15:34] <ubotu> efren30: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[15:34] <danand> GiddyKong - ctrl + o then ctrl + x to exit
[15:34] <bazhang> TriEdge32: no idea just not here
[15:34] <wols_> TriEdge32: nowhere when you spam
[15:35] <TriEdge32> wols_: I'm not spaming, i just need some team members
[15:35] <soc> how can i configure evolution, so that it stores emails in seperate folder structures per account instead of cluttering "on this computer" with mails from different accounts?
[15:35] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: this is from /usr/local/bin - bash: start.epsxe.sh: command not found
[15:35] <wols_> bazhang: getdeb is kinda iffy. great way to breal your apt
[15:35] <MarcN> Any palm pilot users?  My /dev/ttyUSBx devices are not being created.
[15:35] <wols_> tinman: you are spamming. no go
[15:35] <efren30> wols:were can i get compizconfig-setting magger were do i download?
[15:35] <TriEdge32> bazhang: May i try the ubuntu en forum?
[15:35] <ehird> wols_: wrong person
[15:35] <tinman> wols_: how am I spamming?
[15:35] <soc> i want one inbox _per_ account
[15:36] <ehird> TriEdge32: no you may not
[15:36] <bazhang> wols_: okay thanks for the heads up
[15:36] <wols_> ehird: same place you install everything else. synaptic
[15:36] <ehird> TriEdge32: does that have anything to do with ubuntu?
[15:36] <jrib> TriEdge32: it's offtopic here, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[15:36] <ehird> wols_: uhh
[15:36] <bazhang> TriEdge32: go right ahead but please stop here
[15:36] <ehird> wols_: I think you're having nick completion troubles.
[15:36] <wols_> bazhang: it can work. sure, but it also can destory your box. playing roulette basically :)
[15:36] <danand> efren30 - type sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:36] <wols_> ehird: I always do, yes
[15:36] <ehird> hehehehehe -- from that guy's site:
[15:36] <TriEdge32> ehird: it is about audacity
[15:36] <bazhang> wols_: well that is not good thanks again
[15:36] <ehird> 'The content is not much, but is good for the begining.'
[15:36] <ehird> its one page
[15:36] <TriEdge32> ehird: Skins for audacity
[15:36] <ehird> a news item, saying that
[15:36] <ehird> xD
[15:36] <ehird> TriEdge32: ITYM audacious
[15:37] <TriEdge32> ehird: sorry, audacious
[15:37] <songbirdie> can anyone suggest what should be done to troubleshoot slow printing in gutsy gibbons?
[15:37] <ehird> you even got that wrong in your domain...
[15:37] <ehird> FloodBot1, wtf
[15:37] <TriEdge32> ehird: what meand ITYM?
[15:37] <ehird> FloodBot1, wtf
[15:37] <ehird> Triedge32: you even got that wrong in your domain...
[15:37] <wols_> !itym
[15:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about itym - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:37] <amenado> songbirdie-> do you have a fast printer? if not get one?
[15:37] <ehird> anyway, a site for audacious skins .. why not the audacious homepage?
[15:37] <ehird> im sure it has a system for them
[15:37] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: if you can suggest something please do so otherwise ppl will have to use windows for their entertainment which i was hoping they wouldnt need to rely on
[15:37] <TriEdge32> ehird: is a romanian subdomain
[15:38] <jrib> ehird, TriEdge32: discuss it elsewhere, not here
[15:38] <soc> someone?!
[15:38] <soc> pleeease!
[15:38] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: i asked you something. either you answer or I don't help. fair trade
[15:38] <jrib> !please | soc
[15:38] <ubotu> soc: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[15:38] <efren30> danand:E> Couldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:38] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter: ##windows is not so helpful ;]
[15:38] <Slashx> Is there a way I can print using Bonjour?
[15:38] <xero> ciaoa tutti
[15:38] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: wols if you look up youll noticed I answered at elast i believe so in my last post to you
[15:39] <bazhang> xero hello
[15:39] <xero> qualkuno parla italiano
[15:39] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: write the command right and it will run
[15:39] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: start_epsxe.sh
[15:39] <bazhang> xero /join #ubuntu-it
[15:39] <xero> tanks
[15:39] <thannoy> soc: give your mail reader app, your mail server types (POP/IMAP) and reask your question in one line..
[15:39] <bazhang> prego ;]
[15:39] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: if it doesn't run it with /usr/local/bin/start_epsxe.sh
[15:39] <soc> how can i configure evolution, so that it stores emails in seperate folder structures per account instead of cluttering "on this computer" with mails from different accounts?
[15:39] <xero> :P
[15:40] <Slashx> Anyone?
[15:40] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: i dont know the comamnd im just supposed to dbl click on the file start-epsxe and choose run from terminal and it should start the exe but ti doesnt and termianl doesnt stay open long enought to read any erro messages
[15:40] <thannoy> soc: POP accounts I guess
[15:40] <soc> basically i want to clean up an imap account^
[15:40] <bazhang> Slashx: what happened when you tried? any errors?
[15:40] <soc> thannoy: yes, that's the problem
[15:40] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: you have a terminal already open. type for a change
[15:40] <Slashx> Uhh
[15:40] <soreau> Damn setting up LVM is a pita!!
[15:40] <Slashx> I am curious on how to do it
[15:40] <wols_> soreau: amen
[15:40] <wols_> !zeroconf
[15:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zeroconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:40] <bazhang> Slashx: just a moment please
[15:41] <wols_> Slashx: ubuntu has avahi
[15:41] <soc> i want to clean up an imap account, because it takes too much space o the server, so i want the old things only to be stored locally
[15:41] <thannoy> soc: There is a Message filter in the Edit menue. Create differents folder and add sorting filters
[15:41] <Slashx> okay
[15:41] <amenado> soreau-> fedora uses it as default LVM...
[15:41] <soreau> I'm almost there, still not complete though
[15:41] <Slashx> Thx
[15:41] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: i did and the message was command not found when trying to access from /usr/local/bin
[15:41] <Slashx> Sorry to lie to you guys
[15:41] <Slashx> But I really use suse
[15:41] <soreau> amenado: FC is t3h sukc
[15:41] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: FULL FSCKING OUTPUT. for the last time
[15:41] <soc> thannoy: i figured out that the best way would be to set the account from imap to pop, download everything and set it back to imap
[15:41] <Slashx> But you answered my question though
[15:41] <Slashx> :p
[15:41] <danand> efren30 - compizconfig-settings-manager is in the universe repository. Start synaptics - goto the Settings menu at the top and then click on repositories. after that enable (tick the box) next to the universe repository. Close synaptics and then run sudo apt-get update in the terminal. after that retry the install with sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:41] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156675 Slashx check this it may help
[15:41] <wols_> Slashx: goodbye and doN#t come back moron
[15:41] <triedge32_> Hey! I'm building a website, www.audacity.8k.ro. It contains audacious skins, but i need some help to develop it. I need some TEAM MEMBERS. Searchers, Testers and Advertisers. I need at last 5 members! So, ho wanna be a member?
[15:41] <amenado> soreau-> you want to mess with LVM..fedora 7 and 8 has it as default
[15:42] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: what si the comamnd i shoudl type if i wish to run a .sh file in terminal?
[15:42] <soc> thannoy: but of course, evo thinks it is smarter than me and just throws every mail now in "stored on this pc" or what it is called in english
[15:42] <jrib> wols_: there's no need for name calling here
[15:42] <wols_> !ops please stop the spamming of triedge32_
[15:42] <bazhang> !ops | triedge32_
[15:42] <ubotu> triedge32_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[15:42] <soreau> So does Ubuntu Alternate CD
[15:42] <wols_> jrib: you can ban me if you want I don't care
[15:42] <bazhang> wols_: cmon man
[15:42] <wols_> bazhang: I hate people who lie like that and take advantage of others
[15:42] <jrib> wols_: I'm asking you not to name-call users if this channel, that is all
[15:42] <Pirate_Hunter> geez if you dont want to help just say so
[15:43] <bazhang> wols_: I know but please dont leave us
[15:43] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: if you don't want to do what you've been told. don't expect help here
[15:43] <ehird> we need a song abou triedge32_
[15:43] <ehird> :D
[15:43] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: and you've been asked the same multiple times now
[15:43] <PriceChild> !offtopic | wols_ ehird
[15:43] <bazhang> ehird: haha
[15:43] <ubotu> wols_ ehird: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:43] <ehird> he's so common now!
[15:43] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: if i knew the comamnd maybe i would but i dont know
[15:43] <ehird> maybe we should play it on audacity.
[15:43] <ehird> I MEAN AUDACIOUS
[15:43] <soc> thannoy: are you sure this works as expected?
[15:43] <wols_> ehird: stop
[15:43] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> you have been told many times, you are not paying attention
[15:43] <soc> i basically only have one chance to get it right ...
[15:43] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter: indeed
[15:44] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: it seems easy for you but not form me
[15:44] <soc> and what will happen to the mails i send from that account?
[15:44] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter: pm please?
[15:44] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: I rarely spoonfeed that much as with you. ask others here they can tell you
[15:44] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: im trying to run from terminal and nothign is happenign i cnat make miracles or im using the wwrong comamnd which would explain since i have no clue what im doing
[15:44] <thannoy> soc: I only use IMAP so only think I can do is to advise you to use filters..
[15:45] <PriceChild> !offtopic > wols_
[15:45] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> did you ever do what I asked you to do?
[15:45] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: np thanx for the help and patience
[15:45] <tinman> Will apt-get -d package name get the .deb of package as well as dependencies?
[15:45] <zero_> hi any one know why ubuntu says that my gpu is 810 and not 945 ?
[15:45] <keiserr> hello people, can i get some help to do a triple boot of osx, windows and Ubuntu here? i already have osx and windows dual booted, i need ubuntu installed now
[15:45] <PriceChild> zero_: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:45] <zero_> it is intel brand btw
[15:45] <soc> thannoy: i use imap, too
[15:45] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: funny enough i did on both files and guess what it gave me nothing or i did it wrong
[15:46] <soc> thannoy: what do you do, when your space on the server gets full?
[15:46] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> the first line should look like   !/bin/bash -x   is this difficult?
[15:46] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> the first line should look like   #!/bin/bash -x   is this difficult?
[15:46] <zero_> PriceChild: the news one i have full updates
[15:46] <lukasz> hey people
[15:46] <PriceChild> zero_: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:46] <r45c4l> hi guuys....can anyone suggest me a GUI base hash cracker....not JTR
[15:46] <lukasz> I am  having this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213560
[15:46] <s0u][ight> hello guys for my touchpad and keyboard a boot parameter helped
[15:46] <ghostlines> vpn can enable your external ip to be changed right?
[15:46] <lukasz> I get fixme direct3d error in Wineon Ragnarok
[15:46] <s0u][ight> noacpi did it :D
[15:46] <zero_> PriceChild: 7.10
[15:46] <soc> thannoy: i mean, the idea to switch shortly to pop, was just ... well an idea! if there's another way i would try it that way
[15:46] <PriceChild> zero_: please pastebin the output of lspci
[15:47] <lukasz> Can anyone help
[15:47] <amenado> s0u][ight-> i know you have it on you...
[15:47] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: did you actually read what i wrote... or are you just trying to act funny, im not trying to be rude but it seems i told you i did it to both files and nothing happened
[15:47] <pascal_> salut
[15:47] <Lartza_> doing autoreconf -is in lmms source dir gives me this: aclocal: couldn't open directory `m4': No such file or directory
[15:47] <Lartza_> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1 What do i need to do?
[15:47] <PriceChild> !fr | pascal_
[15:47] <ubotu> pascal_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:47] <s0u][ight> amenado, and everyone who helped me tnx :D
[15:47] <artspace> anyone know how i can check that a firewire card is detected ?
[15:47] <lukasz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=711642
[15:47] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> and no step by step output of what it is doing?
[15:47] <lukasz> My thread
[15:47] <Lartza_> my internet might disconnect but ill come bakc soon after that
[15:47] <Benji2> Pirate_Hunter, what exactly is your problem ?
[15:47] <lukasz> Sry got confused a lil bit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=711642
[15:47] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: you got it no step by step
[15:47] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> do you also realize that .exe is not an executable that runs on linux? thats a window thing?
[15:47] <thannoy> soc: emm, for my own I delete old mails on evolution, then confirm the deletion on web interface on my mailbox..
[15:48] <lukasz> I installed Ragnarok run wine RebirthRO.exe and get that fixme direct3d error :(
[15:48] <s0u][ight> wmii is soo nice :D
[15:48] <PriceChild> lukasz: I'd suggest looking up the application on the wine appdb
[15:48] <Pirate_Hunter> Benji2: dont worry its just soem precompiled .sh files that are being a pain
[15:48] <danand> artspace - check the hardware that ubuntu sees on your box with the commands lspci and lshw. however, if it is listed, that doesn't necessarily mean its configured/
[15:48] <PriceChild> !paste | zero_
[15:48] <ubotu> zero_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:48] <lukasz> Didn't work WINEDEBUG=-all wine RebrithRO.exe Didn't work
[15:48] <PriceChild> zero_: I meant that.
[15:49] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> but for my curiousity...can you paste the first 6 uncomment lines of that script in pastebin?
[15:49] <PriceChild> zero_: so where is it telling you 810?
[15:49] <r45c4l> guys can u suggest me a GUI based hash cracker???
[15:49] <r45c4l> plz...
[15:49] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: i knwo that funny enough others have made it work but i just dont get how, this is supposed to be precompiled all i ahd to do is change directories and that was all but instead i get all of this
[15:49] <lukasz> ok PriceChild  I will try
[15:49] <Lartza_> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1 What do i need to do?
[15:49] <Lartza_> doing autoreconf -is in lmms source dir gives me this: aclocal: couldn't open directory `m4': No such file or directory
[15:49] <ConstyXIV> just wondering, is there a reason NTP isin't set up by default?
[15:49] <PriceChild> r45c4l: What are you really trying to do?
[15:50] <Lartza_> my internet might disconnect but ill come bakc soon after that
[15:50] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> made it work? an exe to execute in linux? you should asked them what enviroment they have to make it run..
[15:50] <artspace> danand, thanks
[15:50] <soc> thannoy: when i right-click on a folder and select "properties" there is an option to copy things to work offline
[15:50] <r45c4l> PriceChild: i have JTR but i need something where i can upload a list of MD5
[15:50] <soc> do you think that might help
[15:50] <danand> artspace - np
[15:51] <tinman> Hmm, even if i have the latest version of a package, how do I force apt get to get the .deb?
[15:51] <PriceChild> r45c4l: I suggest you go ask them for help.
[15:51] <artspace> it is listed
[15:51] <amenado> tinman-> dpkg -d install  packagename
[15:51] <soc> or will it delete these things too, when it figures out that the local mail is gone on the remote server?
[15:51] <zero_> PrinceChild: sorry new to ubuntu but it says that i have the 810 in system >> administration >> screens and graphics
[15:51] <r45c4l> PriceChild: i had to crack many passes everyday...so i need a tool for that
[15:51] <tinman> amenado: i need the .deb first
[15:51] <dojo> tinman: apt-get install --reinstall package
[15:51] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: np I give up ppl wil just have to boot into windows for this, it would be nice if they were using ubuntu
[15:52] <PriceChild> zero_: That's odd... You can change it to the 'intel' experimental driver if you want? But i810 should work pretty fine.
[15:52] <bazhang> r45c4l: sounds iffy
[15:52] <PriceChild> r45c4l: Then you don't need our help?
[15:52] <amenado> tinman->  that retrieves the .deb and put in /var/cache/apt
[15:52] <danand> tinman - what are you trying to do ... just download the deb?
[15:52] <tinman> dojo: i want apt to get the .deb but not install so  apt-get install --reinstall package with -d?
[15:52] <r45c4l> PriceChild: i need help bro
[15:52] <thannoy> soc: yes, but it does not remove it from the server and not sure mails remains when you ask to delete them. It seems just to read non-deleted mails whil offline (to verify)
[15:52] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado:: maybe later on ill try the manual version and see if i get any luck
[15:52] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> something you developed?
[15:52] <PriceChild> r45c4l: We do not advocate cracking in this channel.
[15:52] <dojo> tinman: apt-get install -d pkgname
[15:52] <r45c4l> i googled for it but not able to find anything gud
[15:52] <tinman> Okey, I am on live CD and i want to install xserver-xord on my root partition, trying to get the dep, save it then go to recovery terminal and install it
[15:52] <lukasz> by the way where can I get the latest version of Wine PriceChild ?
[15:53] <PriceChild> lukasz: winehq.org has repositories.
[15:53] <r45c4l> PriceChild: well my intestions r not bad
[15:53] <tinman> dojo: says xserver-xorg is already the latest package
[15:53] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: nope pre-developed by someone else and redistributed to linux users
[15:53] <bazhang> r45c4l: take it elsewhere please
[15:53] <PriceChild> lukasz: If you are going to use their repositories, please use #winehq for support.
[15:53] <ele-mugv_> ubuntu is gay
[15:53] <dojo> dojo: append --reinstall
[15:53] <r45c4l> ok guys no prob
[15:53] <zero_> PrinceChild: hmm oki well i can't change as it fall back all the time to 810 and i have frez proglems to, it freez all the applications that i run and after some time it come back
[15:53] <diatribe> ha
[15:53] <keiserr> hi i already have a dual boot system osx and windows on my imac, i wanted to now install linux also on that, you guys know of any easy way out of this?
[15:53] <ele-mugv_> oops
[15:53] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> what is it ? a game?
[15:53] <PriceChild> !tab | zero_
[15:53] <ubotu> zero_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[15:53] <ele-mugv_> sorry my brother did that
[15:53] <PriceChild> zero_: you're spelling my name wrong ;)
[15:53] <dojo> tinman: packages are always cached in /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:54] <amenado> keiserr-> easy, go and install ubuntu
[15:54] <s0u][ight> amenado, is it possible that my video card isn't used since i used the noacpi parameter?
[15:54] <magnetron> lastlog r45c4l
[15:54] <lukasz> ok thnx
[15:54] <amenado> keiserr-> at time of install, select a specific partition for your ubuntu though
[15:54] <zero_> PriceChild: hehe oki
[15:54] <PriceChild> zero_: why is i810 not good enough? "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ?
[15:54] <Lichig0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4433607&posted=1#post4433607
[15:54] <r45c4l> magnetron: is it GUI based
[15:54] <ele-mugv_> dojo, is it possible to use the /var/cache/apt/archives to restore after formatting
[15:54] <Lichig0> I can't get online
[15:54] <Lichig0> with VMware
[15:54] <s0u][ight> amenado, cuz planetpenguin-racer doesn't start up anymore
[15:54] <Newbuntu2> hello
[15:54] <PriceChild> !aptoncd | ele-mugv_
[15:54] <amenado> s0u][ight-> your video is used, otherwise you will see blank..
[15:54] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: yeah since my ubutnu ahs no games or should i say anything the kids would like to play, its a ps emulator better than pcxs which is a system hog and hasnt been worked on since 2004
[15:54] <`Bleu> anyone know how to mount a .toast file? or convert it to an ISO to mount?
[15:54] <ubotu> ele-mugv_: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[15:55] <keiserr> amenado: bu wouldn't ubuntu mess up with the mbr?
[15:55] <Kanuha> hey all, just wanted to let anyone who has a hp pavilion dv6707us laptop know that hardy alpha 5 installs and runs great. Just needed to install the madwifi drivers.
[15:55] <tinman> dojo: Hmm, but I am not able to download the .deb through liveCD because it says the latest version is already installed
[15:55] <zero_> PriceChild, well the glxinfo | grep rendering returns true
[15:55] <amenado> keiserr-> nope..you select to install grub on ubuntu's partition
[15:55] <dojo> ele-mugv_: restoring?
[15:55] <amenado> s0u][ight-> it may be dependent on some libraries, but am very sure your video is used
[15:55] <dojo> tinman: packages.ubuntu.com
[15:56] <s0u][ight> PPRacer 0.3.1 --  http://racer.planetpenguin.de
[15:56] <s0u][ight> (c) 2004-2005 The PPRacer team
[15:56] <s0u][ight> (c) 1999-2001 Jasmin F. Patry<jfpatry@sunspirestudios.com>
[15:56] <s0u][ight> PPRacer comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software,
[15:56] <s0u][ight> and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.
[15:56] <ele-mugv_> ele-mugv@eleOpenSourceBox:~$ sudo apt-get install APTonCD
[15:56] <ele-mugv_> Reading package lists... Done
[15:56] <ele-mugv_> Building dependency tree
[15:56] <ele-mugv_> Reading state information... Done
[15:56] <ele-mugv_> E: Couldn't find package APTonCD
[15:56] <s0u][ight> See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for details.
[15:56] <dojo> tinman: download it via browser
[15:56] <s0u][ight> *** ppracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual (Success)
[15:56] <s0u][ight> s0ullight@punQ-arT:/usr/games$
[15:56] <tinman> dojo: i was afraid i would have dependency problems that way
[15:56] <s0u][ight> amenado, i sent u what i got
[15:56] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to get my USB camera working. It's a "Creative Live!", which uses the spca5xx drivers. However, when I plug it in, var/log/messages shows it being detected as an ehci device but doesn't initialize it as a webcam/start a driver/whatever magic is supposed to happen...
[15:56] <ompaul> !paste | s0u][ight
[15:56] <ubotu> s0u][ight: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:57] <dojo> tinman: what deb package are you looking for?
[15:57] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> nice effort, anyhow, can you pastebin the first few lines of that script?
[15:57] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: you compiled the package using build-essential?
[15:57] <joff> hi guys, does anyone know how to get a bluetooth headset to work? have it paired to the system but cant seem to  get it working? have asked before but ran into a dead end :(
[15:57] <ele-mugv_> guys how to i get aptoncd
[15:57] <PriceChild> ele-mugv_: read the link ubotu gave you about it.
[15:57] <tinman> dojo: xserver-xorg
[15:57] <bazhang> ele-mugv_: install it
[15:57] <dojo> ele-mugv_: apt-get install aptoncd
[15:58] <PriceChild> ele-mugv_: nevermind, sudo apt-get install aptoncd
[15:58] <Newbuntu2> bazhang: I think so. Synaptic shows I have buildessential installed, but I'm not sure if there was something else I should have done
[15:58] <danand> tinman - you can download the deb only with the command apt-get -d install packagename
[15:58] <amenado> tinman-> since you are in liveCD, you have to mount the / partition of your hard disk...
[15:58] <dojo> ele-mugv: apt ist case sensitive
[15:58] <tinman> dojo: trdanthat gave me a "You alreeady have the latest package"
[15:58] <ele-mugv_> ayt..tanx that works getting it now
[15:58] <amenado> danand i told him that already.. dpkg -d install packagename   would only put the deb in /var/cache/apt
[15:58] <tinman> amenado: hmm, how will that help?
[15:58] <FreeFull> Can anyone help me installing Belkin F
[15:58] <FreeFull> 54g F5D7010
[15:58] <tinman> amenado: trying that
[15:59] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: if you got my previous hyperlnk it has all the sample of the files and the read me file I have closed my broswer and lost it since it erases all data once closed
[15:59] <FreeFull> I tried according to an old tutorial on Ubuntu Forums, but it didn't work
[15:59] <danand> amenado - do you not mean apt-get -d instead of dpkg ?
[15:59] <tinman> amenado: dpkg: unknown option -d
[15:59] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: ask wols if he/she still ahs it
[15:59] <amenado> tinman you are not doing what i asked you to do..
[15:59] <amenado> tinman i did not give you apt-get  i gave you dpkg
[16:00] <FreeFull> Help anyone?
[16:00] <tinman> amenado: i just pasted the error
[16:00] <tinman> dpkg dosent recognises -d
[16:00] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> I missed it sorry, and i have a narrow scrollback also..so cant scroll back very far
[16:00] <spiderfire> does ubuntu not  have an external console?
[16:00] <spiderfire> mine does not have a console
[16:00] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: me too
[16:00] <danand> tinman - use apt-get -d pkgname
[16:00] <danand> tinman - use apt-get -d install pkgname
[16:01] <spiderfire> Is anyone else missing the external console?
[16:01] <tinman> danand: just tried, i get this, xserver-xorg is already the newest version.
[16:01] <soreau> !raid
[16:01] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[16:01] <FreeFull> !wifi
[16:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:01] <amenado> tinman danand is correct, i read my notes wrong..it is indeed apt-get -d install packagname
[16:02] <amenado> tinman that is because you are on liveCD
[16:02] <tinman> amenado: even with that, i get teh aformentioned problem
[16:02] <spiderfire> why no console mode?
[16:02] <tinman> amenado: hmm, any work around?
[16:02] <tinman> amenado: what if i uninstall it from live cd and reinstall it/
[16:02] <amenado> tinman you have to mount the / partition of the hard disk
[16:03] <amenado> tinman you can not uninstall like that from liveCD
[16:03] <tinman> amenado: how would that help/
[16:03] <tinman> amenado: I see
[16:03] <tinman> So i can ask apt-get to install it on my mounted root partition?
[16:03] <amenado> tinman it would help if you can put the downloaded deb file in /   you gets?
[16:03] <Trondern> my system is broken after innstalling ubuntu, i get a grub 22 error, windows is on hd0,0 and linux on hd1,6. when doind as said in ubuntu forum using grub in terminal i only find the booot files in hd1 but i suspect i need to have them on hd0 to be able to boot?? :*(
[16:03] <amenado> tinman yes
[16:04] <El3cTr0n> hi
[16:04] <tinman> amenado: that is what i said in the beginning but i can't get the deb's along with the dependencies
[16:04] <amenado> tinman do you know which site you are gettting this .deb from?
[16:04] <tinman> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/xserver-xorg
[16:04] <tinman> amenado: that one
[16:04] <Jorge_> I seem to be getting an Error15 File Not Found in grub and I'm not sure how to solve the problem
[16:05] <amenado> tinman  you can type  sudo apt-cache depends packagename
[16:06] <sharkp> I HATE ATIII!!!
[16:06] <sharkp> MY god...
[16:06] <tinman> amenado: so i would have to manually fetch all the.deb's depending on the package, i was hoping apt would do that for me, but oh well
[16:06] <tinman> Thanks
[16:06] <amenado> tinman now when you get a long list, you just have to acquire them one by one
[16:06] <danand> tinman - if you want the deb and all its dependancied i think you can use a utility called apt-zip
[16:06] <danand> tinman - /s/dependancied/dependancies
[16:06] <kna> can someone pls explain me how to install wlan driver under ubuntuu?
[16:06] <amenado> tinman in recovery mode, are you not able to get into it? ie safe  mode
[16:06] <kna> i tried lspci, but the card is not shown
[16:07] <DIguana> How long has "Recent Documents" been in the "Places" menu? I just noticed it now.
[16:07] <lepidoptera> I'm a total newbie ... I want to upgrade from edgy to gutsy without loosing any old data.... I find it difficult to upgrade ubuntu without losing previous settings and programs
[16:07] <tinman> amenado: I am not able to connect to the internet or use apt-cdrom
[16:07] <kna> is there anything else i can do, if lspci doesnt show the device?
[16:07] <brobostigon> kna: what does dmesg say??
[16:07] <tinman> danand: okey, i'll look into it
[16:07] <kna> i try
[16:07] <amenado> DIguana-> did you also notice the .thumbnails/*/  pictures of pr0ns you have peeked? hehe
[16:07] <Newbuntu2> can anyone point me to a good resource on troubleshooting webcams?
[16:07] <newuser> I am trying to install Ubuntu on my desktop machine, I have NvidiaGeForce card. When ubuntu boots I get message on both screens saying out of range. I tried safe graphics mode but it didn't help, can somebody help me on the side please?
[16:07] <danand> kna - have you tried typing lshw in a terminal to see if your card shows up there
[16:07] <anka-ar> hi
[16:07] <tyguaike> asdfadsf
[16:07] <amenado> tinman-> what kind of internet connection do you have? dsl? wireless? dialup?
[16:08] <Eppie> hey hoest nouw?
[16:08] <tinman> amenado: ADSL,  PPPoE
[16:08] <anka-ar> Which is the difference between the results of free -m and the memory showed in system monitor?
[16:08] <danand> Newbuntu2 - did you say that you knew the driver you needed for that webcam?
[16:08] <amenado> tinman and using liveCd you have access right?
[16:09] <newuser> I am using Gutsy Gibbon CD.
[16:09] <tinman> amenado: yessir, using live c d everything works, including x server mouse etc (All what I am trying to fix)
[16:09] <TMM> I've got a question: When I suspend my laptop and I have an usb drive plugged in with files open on it, when I resume the device will have 'shifted' by one name (ie sbc > sdd) is there anything that can be done about this? I'm runny hardy by the way. I'd like my files to REMAIN open :)
[16:09] <amenado> tinman okay, lets try your recovery mode, but first let us copy your existing settings of liveCD
[16:09] <amenado> tinman->  copy on piece of paper your  /etc/network/interfaces  file contents
[16:10] <Newbuntu2> danand: yes, spca5xx
[16:10] <amenado> tinman-> then ifconfig ;  route -n and /etc/resolv.conf   its result copy it on a piece of paper
[16:10] <tinman> amenado: in the recovery mode , i get a PPP not suported by kernel, Is you kernel 2.something.x? <- an error similar to that
[16:10] <Newbuntu2> danand: I don't know how to check whether it's installed/running/etc, however
[16:10] <newuser> I am trying to install Ubuntu on my desktop machine, I have NvidiaGeForce card. When ubuntu boots I get message on both screens saying out of range. I tried safe graphics mode but it didn't help, can somebody help me on the side please? I am using Gutsy Gibbon CD to install. I need help trying to install. Some reason screen goes out of range even with graphics mode.
[16:10] <danand> Newbuntu2 - and you said that the system logged the fact the device was plugged in?
[16:10] <lepidoptera> I'm a total newbie ... I want to upgrade from edgy to gutsy without loosing any old data.... I find it difficult to upgrade ubuntu without losing previous settings and programs
[16:11] <amenado> tinman we may need to look at that too, which drivers for pppoe
[16:11] <brobostigon> !upgrade | lepidoptera
[16:11] <ubotu> lepidoptera: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:11] <tinman> amenado: I have no idea
[16:11] <Newbuntu2> danand: I can't modprobe it. It logs the moment I plug it in as an ehci usb device; but from other examples I believe that should be followed by the driver/video software kicking in and taking over
[16:11] <amenado> tinman-> now are you going to do what I requested or you are giving up?
[16:11] <tinman> amenado: going to get a paper and pen
[16:11] <LoLLo> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs8sYe4uqM
[16:12] <newuser> I need help, please
[16:12] <kna> ok, lshw does only show my lan device 10/100, if i type dmesg i get a "eth0: registered as PCnet/PCI II 79C970A"
[16:12] <amenado> tinman on the meantime, can you kindly paste that too in pastebin for our reference ?
[16:12] <kna> im am running vmware player, and want to autdit my wlan session
[16:12] <danand> Newbuntu2 - i can't find that module (spca5xx) on my system. are you sure thats the correct name of the module to use for that device?
[16:12] <kna> i tried to start vmnetcfr.exe, and added the wlan adapter to the list
[16:13] <kna> im using and standard wland device from intel, in my lenovo notebook, and installed the drivers
[16:13] <newuser> Anybody can help with new install of Ubuntu in desktop?
[16:13] <Newbuntu2> danand: It's on this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx maybe it's something pre-7.10 I'm looking at?? (I have a creative Live!, and am using a fresh 7.10 install)
[16:13] <kna> but i cant use the card .. has anyone a clue, to how to add my physica wlan adapter in the virtual machine?
[16:13] <sharkp> can anyone help me with ati driver?
[16:13] <amenado> kna if you type  sudo ip a ;  ifconfig do you show all the vmnet interfaces?
[16:13] <kna> yes
[16:14] <kna> but iwconfig doesnt show anything
[16:14] <sharkp> can anyone help me with ati driver?
[16:14] <danand> Newbuntu2 - wait one i'll take a quick look...
[16:14] <egc> my hdd is formatted w/ UFS, and i'd like to resize the UFS partition to shrink it.  The Gparted disc I have doesn't support this...can somebody suggest an alternative?
[16:14] <amenado> !who | kna
[16:14] <ubotu> kna: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:14] <kna> ok, how can i do ist?
[16:14] <newuser> can somebody volunteer to help me?
[16:15] <kna> !amendado how?
[16:15] <s0u][ight> !bootoptions
[16:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amendado how? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:15] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[16:15] <amenado> egc does your kernel support UFS also? you can check  grep -i ufs /boot/config-`uname -r`
[16:15] <kna> amendado how?
[16:15] <egc> amenado: the installed kernel is solaris, so yes
[16:15] <amenado> kna i dont think vmware supports a wireless nick
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[16:15] <kna> are you sure?
[16:15] <amenado> egc-> umm we are not solaris..not sure if ubuntu  supporst UFS
[16:16] <kna> i think there must be a way to access the card
[16:16] <tinman> amenado: http://pastebin.ca/924663
[16:16] <amenado> kna am sure, look at the host properties
[16:16] <DirtyMonkey> afternoon all
[16:16] <wrath144> hi, can someone point me towards the md5 checksum page?
[16:16] <anka-ar> hi, Which is the difference between the results of free -m and the memory showed in system monitor?
[16:16] <xyblor> !flash
[16:16] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:16] <sharkp> I have a problem with ati driver on my radeon hd 2600 xt card
[16:16] <egc> amenado: yeah, i realize that...im just trying to set the disk up for dual boot
[16:16] <kna> can you google for "use aircrack-ng from vmware"
[16:16] <amenado> kna it may show up as an interface to vmware but not as wireless
[16:16] <kna> i think that should work?
[16:16] <firstohit> anybody likes to help with problem in desktop, seems to be video?
[16:17] <DirtyMonkey> im trying to setup suhph and php5-cgi, do i have to add something to httpd.conf ?
[16:17] <sharkp> when I set fglrx in xorg.conf and reboot, the boot stops on "running local boot scripts"
[16:17] <amenado> egc umm well try what I suggest first, ie verify that the kernel you are about to install supports UFS
[16:17] <wrath144> hi, can someone point me towards the md5 checksum page?
[16:17] <egc> oh ok
[16:17] <kna> amendado: .. so, if there must be a way to install a wireless network under vmware ... you must, somehow be able to use the card
[16:17] <kna> amendado: right?
[16:17] <firstohit> I am using Gutsy Gibbon CD to install to desktop with GeForce 6200, I want to switch to ubuntu NOW
[16:18] <sharkp> please help me
[16:18] <s0u][ight> people can someone help me chosing the right boot parameter?
[16:18] <amenado> kna-> yes you can use the card, but it may not show up on vmware as wireless..you follow? it may just show up as an ethernet..vmnet really
[16:18] <egc> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$  grep -i ufs /boot/config-`uname -r`
[16:18] <egc> # CONFIG_UFS_DEBUG is not set
[16:18] <egc> CONFIG_UFS_FS=m
[16:18] <egc> # CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE is not set
[16:18] <firstohit> I need help to get to view the desktop, screen says out of range
[16:18] <s0u][ight> noacpi is not that one i want to use
[16:18] <slider> ciao
[16:18] <amenado> s0u][ight-> but you said noacpi solved the problem?
[16:19] <DirtyMonkey> has anyone setup suphp before?
[16:19] <s0u][ight> yeah but i don't wanna use that one
[16:19] <s0u][ight> amenado, i mean :D
[16:19] <amenado> tinman-> the result of route -n  does not show a gateway?
[16:20] <kna> amendado: so this is what i found "- VMWare Player will allow for Bridge mode on the Guest OS through a Wireless NIC on the Host OS
[16:20] <kna> - NAT mode will allow the Guest OS to connect to the internet and so forth, but will not connect to your LAN wit
[16:20] <kna> "
[16:20] <tinman> amenado: no idea, i pasted what it gave me :s
[16:20] <amenado> s0u][ight-> well if you select another option that dont work, umm and not noacpi,  your call
[16:20] <kna> without some routing trickery.
[16:20] <kna> ok?
[16:20] <tinman> amenado: i think ifconfig would, right?
[16:20] <kna> nobody who go it dome?
[16:20] <amenado> kna i know...so you have to use not bridge but nat
[16:20] <s0u][ight> kk i'll see :D i want to play that game planetpenguin-racer amenado
[16:21] <s0u][ight> but it doesn't run :(
[16:21] <FreeFull> Can anyone help me installing Belkin Wireless G Notebook Card F5D7010 ? According to documentation it should work right out of the box, but it doesnt.
[16:21] <danand> Newbuntu2 - i think that page (the download/ wget link) refers to an older verion of the package that may not work with 7.10. I have looked at the site providing the download - http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/ - and seen there is a newer version available - spca5xx-v4l1goodbye.tar.gz. That may help you out. However, i have also seen a package in the ubuntu repositories named spca5xx-source - that may help you out too. If possible i would try out th
[16:21] <amenado> tinman i need to make sure your liveCD settings have a gateway, or else it would not be able to access the internet, but you're showing no gateway, so im perplexed
[16:21] <kna> ok, and than all the other helpguides to install the device should work?
[16:21] <DirtyMonkey> i really need some help seting up suphp...
[16:22] <mad_max02> how can I hotplug and mount eSata hdd ??
[16:22] <kna> amenado ok, and than all the other helpguides to install the device should work?
[16:22] <Jorge_> I have installed Ubuntu on hdd1 and set grub to hd(3,0) but when I try to boot, I get a file not found error 15 and it says that it is formatted at fat, when it is formatted at ext3
[16:22] <firstohit> I have a 6200 LE-A and Ubuntu 7.10, When ubuntu boots I get screen out of range even with safe graphics mode, Please help
[16:22] <tinman> amenado: Hmm, has this got anything to do with a router? becauese I dont have one
[16:22] <amenado> kna  there is  #vmware  help channel i believe
[16:22] <egc> apparently growfs(8) can resize a UFS partition
[16:22] <FreeFull> Why doesn't anyone help me?
[16:23] <Newbuntu2> danand: I downloaded the sources via synaptic, but how do I install them?
[16:23] <danand> Newbuntu2 - have you tried modprobe spca5xx ?
[16:23] <rinaldi_> is there a way to flag bad sectors on a dvd so they are not read when i try to copy it to the hard drive?
[16:23] <DirtyMonkey> when installing suphp do i need to amend http.conf?
[16:23] <Newbuntu2> danand: yes, it says module no founf
[16:23] <amenado> tinman your box with liveCD has to know how to get to the internet, via the gateway ..
[16:23] <tinman> FreeFull: What seems to be the problem?
[16:23] <FreeFull> Can anyone help me installing Belkin Wireless G Notebook Card F5D7010 ? According to documentation it should work right out of the box, but it doesnt.
[16:23] <Newbuntu2> danand: found
[16:23] <firstohit> tinman: can you help me ?
[16:23] <firstohit> I have a 6200 LE-A and Ubuntu 7.10, When ubuntu boots I get screen out of range even with safe graphics mode, Please help
[16:23] <amenado> FreeFull-> we are serving number 759 what is yours? hehe
[16:24] <egc> FreeFull: should'nt you contact their tech support in this case?
[16:24] <tinman> firstohit: ctrl+alt+"-"
[16:24] <egc> if its documented
[16:24] <FreeFull> egc, ubuntu documentation
[16:24] <egc> oh :P
[16:24] <Kazagistar> I have a fairly straightforward question, I think. I was fiddling with screen resolutions, trying to figure out how you get a second screen to work, and messed it up somehow. Now, when I start up, it fails to configure any monitors and dumps me in console (where frankly I'm kinda helpless). Is there any command to auto-reset/detect the original resolution?
[16:25] <Starnestommy> Kazagistar: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:25] <tinman> Kazagistar: what does the error say?
[16:25] <mad_max02> how can I hotplug and mount eSata hdd ??
[16:25] <danand> Newbuntu2 - you need to build this module from source. find out where the package manager put the files you got - type dpkg -L spca5xx-source. Goto that directory and read all the readme's etc. that should tell you how to build and install the module on your system
[16:25] <tinman> Kazagistar: welcome to my works, x server problems :]
[16:25] <amenado> s0u][ight-> http://www.columbia.edu/~ariel/acpi/acpi_howto.txt  <- see if any of these will help you
[16:26] <FreeFull> tinman, will you help?
[16:26] <s0u][ight> amenado, i'm going to give it a try :D tnx for ur time and help
[16:26] <firstohit> I have very simple problem, I can't view anything when booting X ubuntu 7.1 on GeForce 6200
[16:26] <DirtyMonkey> dtill looking for help installing suphp...
[16:26] <amenado> s0u][ight-> keep trying never give up :P
[16:26] <stevecasper> hi.....can any1 tell me what is the best way to get divx/mpeg codecs to work properly
[16:26] <Kazagistar> well, um, I'm kinda using the live-cd to access this, so I have to log out and restart to try stuff
[16:26] <tinman> FreeFull: what is the problem?If I can sure i will
[16:26] <rinaldi_> FreeFull: whats happening, is it not detected at all or not connecting properly?
[16:27] <FreeFull> Not detected
[16:27] <noelferreira> my wireless connection is always switching off with ralink driver (rt61). any help?
[16:27] <alberto> hey guys somebody know if I can view/change video bitrate in Kino to import from camcorders? thanks
[16:27] <amenado> tinman once more, type  netstat -ran  lets see if the gateway is listed
[16:27] <spiekey> Hi
[16:27] <danand> Newbuntu2 - if you run into problems just ask on the channel and someone should be able to help you out ... gotta go ... luck
[16:27] <spiekey> where can i download the hardy server iso?
[16:27] <FreeFull> spiekey, why hardy?
[16:27] <tinman> amenado: okey, hold on
[16:27] <amenado> spiekey-> umm did you try to google?
[16:27] <brobostigon> !hardy | spiekey
[16:27] <ubotu> spiekey: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:28] <RiPPeR666> hey can anyoe help me????? video problem. after boot splash screen monitor goes black with "nv" settings in xorg.conf of looses sinal with "nvidia-glx-new" drivers installed with "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[16:28] <FreeFull> RiPPeR666, try vesa or vga
[16:28] <tinman> amenado: http://pastebin.ca/924677
[16:28] <spiekey> brobostigon: thx
[16:28] <RiPPeR666> tried
[16:29] <rinaldi_> FreeFull: where did it say it works out of the box? in hardware doxumentation it says you need to configure ndiswrapper
[16:29] <RiPPeR666> Freefull: i tried both
[16:29] <egc> so the answer to my question about shrinking a UFS partition is that you cannot
[16:29] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-5/ spiekey
[16:29] <egc> time for some destruction!
[16:30] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500
[16:30] <bazhang> egc you have an actual question?
[16:30] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, RalinkRT2500 is the chipset
[16:30] <egc> bazhang: i did a while back
[16:30] <fco> Is there a tool or program to create screensavers in Linux?
[16:30] <vnese>  Hi, i m running postfix on ubuntu, everytime when i try to reach the smtp.gmail.com , it opens a new random port, can I configure it to run at a certain port ?
[16:30] <egc> :D
[16:30] <bazhang> egc you all set then?
[16:30] <FreeFull> fco, afaik, no
[16:31] <RiPPeR666> hey can anyoe help me????? video problem. after boot splash screen monitor goes black with "nv" settings in xorg.conf or looses sinal with "nvidia-glx-new" drivers installed with "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[16:31] <KenSentMe> Are there instructions on the wiki or something to tell windows users how to get onto irc?
[16:31] <hdevalence> do I need special hardware to be a wireless router?
[16:32] <FreeFull> KenSentMe, just mIRC for windows users
[16:32] <amenado> tinman anyhow, im still perplexed that it does not have a gateway..but it works..thats the key..let me find out what drivers you require for pppoe
[16:32] <egc> bazhang: kinda sorta.  I have a solaris install that takes up my entire drive, and I wanna dual boot w/ ubuntu.  So i was looking for a way to resize that UFS partition, but it can't be shrunken.
[16:32] <bazhang> RiPPeR666: you might try lowering the resolution until you get this fixed
[16:32] <fbc> HI guys, I'm helping integrate ubuntu into a school here in Mexico. All of their students projects are written in php4 and I cannot find a lamp installation in synaptics for php4. any ideas?
[16:32] <noelferreira> my wireless connection is always switching off with ralink driver (rt61). any help?
[16:32] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, any idea what's wrong?
[16:32] <spiekey> does someone know a mirror for http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-5/hardy-server-i386.iso ?
[16:32] <bazhang> egc aha UFS no clue here ;]
[16:32] <KenSentMe> FreeFull, i know mirc, but i am looking for instructions on how to use it to reach the ubuntu channels
[16:32] <bazhang> spiekey: that will redirect you automatically
[16:32] <rinaldi_> FreeFull: some of the chipsets are broadcom on the site, you sure it's ralink?
[16:33] <FreeFull> KenSentMe, check mIRC documentation
[16:33] <spiekey> bazhang: huh?
[16:33] <tinman> KenSentMe: /server -m server ?
[16:33] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, according to chipset list it was ralink
[16:33] <bazhang> spiekey: meet me in #ubuntu+1 okay?
[16:34] <spiekey> ok
[16:34] <egc> bazhang: so the solution for me is to install linux and use Gparted later to carve up the disk such that i can have a partition into which i can install solaris
[16:34] <claudio75> hi to all...anybody knows how to set deluge as the default torrent's client?
[16:34] <egc> hehe, thug life
[16:34] <RiPPeR666> bazhang: i changed the usplach.conf to 1024x768
[16:34] <bazhang> egc: very elegant solution ;]
[16:34] <rinaldi_> FreeFull: which chipset list?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBelkin
[16:34] <amenado> tinman  does liveCD have  /etc/ppp/ directory?
[16:34] <egc> yeah, destroy!
[16:34] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to compile a driver, spca5xx. It puts the bz2 file in /usr/src. when I unzip it it puts a bunch of files under a new, modules, directory. Is this where I should be putting this, or should I unzip somewhere else??
[16:34] <tinman> amenado: yessir
[16:35] <bazhang> RiPPeR666: I thought you lost the signal once you got past bootsplash is that not the case?
[16:35] <amenado> tinman  can you paste it just the name of the files there
[16:35] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, I see. So it could be broadcom too...
[16:35] <tinman> amenado: k
[16:35] <cbx33> hey al
[16:35] <rinaldi_> FreeFull: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy you could try this
[16:35] <cbx33> how can i reduce the number of tty sessions?
[16:36] <RiPPeR666> bazhang> no that is the case didnt quit understand y some one told me to do that??
[16:36] <tinman> amenado: http://pastebin.ca/924690
[16:36] <amenado> tinman i suspect those files will also be available on recovery mode..
[16:36] <ghostlines> anyone has any experience with openvpn?
[16:36] <KenSentMe> tinman, i know how to use irc and stuff, but someone i want to help doesnt. I'm looking for an idiot proof guide to get on the ubuntu channels from windows
[16:36] <erUSUL> cbx33: remove or better rename /etc/event.d/tty* files
[16:36] <Jorge_> what is the default username and password in ubuntu?
[16:36] <amenado> tinman you can mount your /  partition  from hard disk right?
[16:36] <erUSUL> Jorge_: there is none you canfigure one during install
[16:37] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, it doesn't show in Restricted Driver Manager
[16:37] <Jorge_> erUSUL
[16:37] <bertvdp> hi, I'm having a problem with vmware server on a 64-bit system, it seems to need the 32-bit version of libgnome-vfs, would it hurt the system if I also installed the 32-bit one ?
[16:37] <Jorge_> erUSUL ok, what is the root password?
[16:37] <RiPPeR666> bazhang: problem is though that i cant ever get into terminal with "nvidia" in xorg.conf i loose signal to monitor
[16:37] <tinman> amenado: yeah, recovery shell mounts my / with no problem
[16:37] <erUSUL> !root | Jorge_
[16:37] <ubotu> Jorge_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:38] <erUSUL> Jorge_: there is no root on ubuntu you use «sudo»
[16:38] <erUSUL> !sudo | Jorge_
[16:38] <ubotu> Jorge_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[16:38] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, I tried lspcmcia and it didn't show too
[16:38] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small, it seems the padding/spacing is missing
[16:38] <cbx33> erUSUL, thanks
[16:38] <amenado> tinman then okay, where did you mount / ?   you can ls -la  /mounpointof"/"etc/ppp  and those should have similar files as your liveCD
[16:38] <cbx33> what should i rename them to
[16:38] <cbx33> what process calls them?
[16:38] <ffm> Does ubuntu support the Rio Cali MP3 player? I can't find anything on it.
[16:38] <erUSUL> cbx33: no problem
[16:39] <erUSUL> !upstart | cbx33
[16:39] <ubotu> cbx33: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[16:39] <wisnut> ubuntu 5.1 - breezy - apt-get keeps failing (error 404 ip not found).  Found the path in sources.list to be "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe". . .doesn't seem to match what's out there based on http browsing. . .any ideas?
[16:39] <PriceChild> ffm: have you tried plugging it in?
[16:39] <cbx33> does upstart have config anywhere?
[16:39] <amenado> RiPPeR666-> tried ctrl+alt+F1 to F6 ?
[16:39] <rinaldi_> FreeFull: so it doesn't even detect any sort of hardware in the pcmcia slot?
[16:39] <ffm> PriceChild: yeah, it's not mounting.
[16:39] <RiPPeR666> bazhang: with "nv" in xorg.conf the sceen just goes black in i can hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get into terminal login screen
[16:39] <pushpop-> spawN busted ESWC, with team9, http://eswc-anticheat.b3ta.org
[16:39] <PriceChild> wisnut: breezy reached end of life some time ago and support is no longer given. Please upgrade.
[16:39] <ffm> PriceChild: I don't think it's a USB mass storage device
[16:39] <wisnut> that would explain it - thanks PriceChild!!!
[16:39] <PriceChild> ffm: but it mounted...
[16:40] <bazhang> pushpop-: what is that
[16:40] <ffm> PriceChild: no.
[16:40] <tinman> amenado: i see a few extra files
[16:40] <PriceChild> ffm: sorry misread you
[16:40] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, I think so...
[16:40] <erUSUL> !who | cbx33
[16:40] <ubotu> cbx33: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:40] <hendrixski> I want to make a box that's just a firefox broswer, appliance kind of a thing.  I have a text-only Ubuntu install, and I heard that a single application can run on Just an X server without a window client.  Can anybody point me to a manual to do something like this?
[16:40] <amenado> tinman well at least we know once you go to recovery mode in your hard disk you have those files and access to the internet should be available.
[16:40] <cbx33> sorry erUSUL
[16:40] <erUSUL> cbx33: yes you configure it here /etc/event.d/*
[16:40] <RiPPeR666> amenado: i can do that with nv in xorg.conf but not with "nvidia" in xorg
[16:40] <amenado> tinman so boot from your hard disk, but select the recovery mode
[16:40] <alberto> hey guys somebody know if I can view/change video bitrate in Kino to import from camcorders? thanks
[16:40] <cbx33> ahh
[16:41] <cbx33> so I can just move them else where
[16:41] <cbx33> thanks erU
[16:41] <cbx33> erUSUL,
[16:41] <rinaldi_> FreeFull: strange, it has to be either of those chipsets, and the power light isn't on either? i take it you've rebooted since inseting it or inseted it while your pc was off?
[16:41] <tinman> amenado: never works though, I get a kernel does not support PPP is this kernel 2.x.x or somethign similar to that error
[16:41] <erUSUL> cbx33: move what ?
[16:41] <amenado> RiPPeR666-> well, what exactly you want to do? use nvdia?
[16:41] <cbx33> the tty files
[16:41] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, I rebooted.
[16:41] <cbx33> erUSUL, the tty files
[16:42] <Lartza_> my internet keeps disconnecting
[16:42] <erUSUL> cbx33: yes; but do not lose them XD
[16:42] <Newbuntu2> when I try to "make" a driver, it says "linux/config.h: No such file or directory" What am I doing wrong?
[16:42] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, The power light isn't on.
[16:42] <tinman> Lartza_: what errors do plog give you?
[16:42] <Lartza_> well my powerline ethernet adaptor shuts down
[16:42] <FreeFull> rinaldi_, I'm not sure there is a power light.
[16:42] <cbx33> erUSUL, heheh
[16:42] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[16:42] <amenado> tinman->   do this...   grep -i ppp  /mountpointof"/"boot/config-xxx.gz  where xxx is whatever config file there is
[16:42] <cbx33> I won't
[16:42] <Lartza_> has anyone used those and noticed same problem
[16:42] <ffm> hendrixski: "sudo aptitude install xorg firefox" and then 'xinit -c "firefox"
[16:42] <RiPPeR666> amenado: well since i install new drivers via "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-nex" i though nvidia would be the right choice for xorg
[16:42] <ffm> '
[16:42] <cbx33> I just want to get rid of 4 of them
[16:42] <bertvdp> hi, I'm having a problem with vmware server on a 64-bit system, it seems to need the 32-bit version of libgnome-vfs, would it hurt the system if I also installed the 32-bit one ?
[16:42] <ffm> hendrixski: the first command installs, the second starts the x serer
[16:42] <amenado> tinman we're trying to figure out if your kernel in your hd supports ppp
[16:43] <amenado> RiPPeR666-> well it seems not right?
[16:43] <FreeFull> bertvdp, run vmware server using linux32
[16:43] <rinaldi_> FreeFull: oh ok, its just that mine has a power light and a connection light. im kinda stuck here now
[16:43] <RiPPeR666> amenado: yea i got the same felling
[16:43] <tinman> amenado: #  grep -i ppp abc/boot/config-xxx.gz
[16:43] <tinman> grep: abc/boot/config-xxx.gz: No such file or directory
[16:43] <RiPPeR666> amenado: feeling
[16:43] <hendrixski> ffm, sweet, lemme try that
[16:44] <ffm> PriceChild: I just plugged it in, he'res what appeared in dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/924694
[16:44] <bertvdp> FreeFull, how do you mean ?
[16:44] <amenado> RiPPeR666-> well you may just have to settle for nv, if your video does not support nvidia
[16:44] <Lartza_> does anyone know why my a-link powerline ethernet adaptor PA200AV shuts down from time to time?
[16:44] <FreeFull> Lartza_, we don't know. This isn't an Ubuntu question, btw.
[16:44] <RiPPeR666> amenado: nv doesnt work either after boot splash it just goes black but i can access terminal
[16:44] <amenado> tinman not exact xxx..see what config.* files is in there..i use xxx since i dont know the numbers
[16:44] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: "version headers-2.6.22-14-generic' for 'linux' was not found
[16:45] <Lartza_> well maybe, in other comp it has worked fine
[16:45] <RiPPeR666> amenado:  with nvidia i cant so it does seem like a step in the wrong direction
[16:45] <amenado> RiPPeR666-> it must be your xorg.conf configs...play around with it
[16:45] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: ?? they should be there...
[16:45] <Lartza_> it has winblows
[16:45] <erUSUL> !info linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:45] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic (source: linux-source-2.6.22): Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.22 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22-14.52 (gutsy), package size 567 kB, installed size 6420 kB
[16:46] <fbc> any reason why enabling the remote desktop features would not work?
[16:46] <rinaldi_> FreeFull: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff heres a manual ndiswrapper way, but from there im not sure what else to do
[16:46] <Lartza_> reason might also be in powerlines
[16:46] <spiekey> does someone know a mirror for http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-5/hardy-server-i386.iso ?
[16:46] <erUSUL> !info linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic | Newbuntu2
[16:46] <ubotu> newbuntu2: please see above
[16:46] <helllen> helllo
[16:46] <exerdigit> hey guys. all i am trying to do and have been trying to do is to get Flash to work on my FireFox. And in the process of trying to follow different instructions from different sites, after each thing i try not working, i somehow managed to mess up my installer??? I am really in the woods here.. Any help would be appreciated
[16:46] <ffm> PriceChild: hm... I was able to access it with "rioutil" , but sadly it's CLI only
[16:46] <amenado> RiPPeR666-> you may to go through the steps of reconfiguring your xorg.. i cant remember exact command line   dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg something
[16:46] <helllen> someone know any good program to crack a wep wifi password?
[16:46] <senselab> HMM
[16:46] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small, it seems the padding/spacing is missing
[16:46] <fbc> exerdigit: are you using an x64 installation?
[16:46] <tinman> amenado: http://pastebin.ca/924697
[16:46] <bazhang> exerdigit: reinstall flash-plugin nonfree
[16:46] <ffm> !kismet | helllen
[16:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kismet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:46] <erUSUL> exerdigit: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:46] <exerdigit> yes... and I even tried following the instructions for it
[16:47] <erUSUL> !flash > exerdigit
[16:47] <egc> exerdigit: if you're machine is 64-bit i believe the steps are slightly different
[16:47] <ffm> helllen: kismet and aircrack-ng
[16:47] <egc> s/you're/your
[16:47] <fbc> exerdigit: yeah thats aq little trickier
[16:47] <erUSUL> egc: no difference you just install the package
[16:47] <Lartza_> kismet is a chocolate bar in here :D
[16:47] <egc> erUSUL: oh ok, been a while since I did it
[16:47] <egc> it used to be the case
[16:47] <storm-ze1> I need help configuring guarddog.  I've managed to disable web access.  Trying to get it to work and therefore can't download it via apt.  Somehow, though, this irc connection has continued to work..
[16:48] <fbc> HI guys, I'm helping integrate ubuntu into a school here in Mexico. All of their students projects are written in php4 and I cannot find a lamp installation in synaptics for php4. any ideas?
[16:48] <erUSUL> egc: gutsy made it really easy ;)
[16:48] <amenado> tinman from what you pasted, it looks like ppp is supported, lets give it a shot, boot from your hd and select the recovery mode..we will establish network from there
[16:48] <exerdigit> and heres the thing, i followed the instructions on installing firefox32, then isntalling flash with it... worked great.. for about a minute.. now it says its not enabled.
[16:48] <DirtyMonkey> whats the chown command to change owner and group permissions of all files and folders in a directory?
[16:48] <storm-ze1> *can't download the help file
[16:48] <Lartza_> php4 scripts work on php5, am i right?
[16:48] <ffm> fbc: just install apache, mysql, and php4, and ubuntu autoconfigures it.
[16:48] <ffm> fbc: or just have them use php5.
[16:48] <tinman> amenado: I am sure it will give me an error :<, but  i  will try, so brb
[16:48] <Newbuntu2> ubotu: I don't quite follow your header message. can you explain?
[16:48] <amenado> exerdigit-> hang round, ill try to assist, but im assisting someone right now
[16:49] <amenado> tinman what did you do to get that error ?
[16:49] <exerdigit> no hurry.. thanks
[16:49] <fbc> Lartza_: no I don't think so. There are functions that are called diferrently right?
[16:49] <DirtyMonkey> anyone
[16:49] <erUSUL> DirtyMonkey: man chown ;)
[16:49] <fbc> Lartza_:  like SCANDIR and serveral other functions right?
[16:49] <amenado> exerdigit-> which firefox version did you install? do you have a  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins   and/or /usr/lib/firefox*/plugins  ?
[16:50] <Lartza_> fbc: well maybe it's not perfect, but works
[16:50] <fbc> Lartza_:  Yeah I don't want to have to make the rewrite everything...
[16:50] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: so what do I do about the headers??
[16:50] <Milux> hi, where can i find the source code of aes crypt? http://www.aescrypt.com/
[16:50] <storm-ze1> !guarddog
[16:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:50] <amenado> Newbuntu2-> you must have it to compile C programs
[16:51] <bod_> hey guys, would someone be kind enough to help me configure a wireless connection, i have a belkin F5D7050 dongle. So far all ive tried is plugin it in and configureing through NM which didnt work,. thanks in adavnce ;~)
[16:51] <ethereality> "An error occurred while adding files to the archive. Failed to fork (Cannot allocate memory)" ... I got that error message while trying to right-click archive my home folder as home.tar.gz onto my external hard drive. What does it mean and how do I fix it?
[16:51] <exerdigit> amenado-- i seem to have both of those directories
[16:51] <adac2> can someone help me? java apllets do not load with firefox
[16:51] <adac2> *applets
[16:51] <rilo> anyone speak Turkish?
[16:51] <Newbuntu2> synaptic shows I have linux-header-generic and linux-headers-2.6.22.-14 and  linux-headers-2.6.22.-14-generic
[16:51] <senselab> type : sudo apt-get install java
[16:51] <bod_> !turkish | rilo
[16:51] <ubotu> rilo: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[16:51] <amenado> exerdigit-> then on both make sure you have the libjavaplugin.so on those directories,
[16:52] <senselab> adac2 : maybe sun-java6 ......
[16:52] <rilo> bod_: yea, I'm there, it's dead. thanks though.
[16:52] <adac2> senselab: iced tea is installed
[16:52] <bod_> oh, ok
[16:52] <senselab> that should work
[16:52] <adac2>  java -versionjava version "1.7.0"IcedTea Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-b22)IcedTea 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.7.0-b22, mixed mode)
[16:52] <mrunagi> does *ubuntu have some sort of sign scrolling software that i can use a plasma tv as a sign?
[16:52] <amenado> Newbuntu2-> are you trying to compile a simple C program ?
[16:52] <Newbuntu2> amenado: a driver
[16:53] <senselab> adac hows that work
[16:53] <rilo> mrunagi: some screen saver I'm sure
[16:53] <rilo> mrunagi: but there are plenty of slideshows you could use
[16:53] <exerdigit> amenado-- no i do not.. but i cant copy anything in or not, it says i do not have permissions... i am very new to all of this. so this is probably a stupid question on how to get around this.
[16:53] <amenado> Newbuntu2-> then most likely it has a Makefile, that should have the path to where your headers are..
[16:53] <mrunagi> any suggestions on slideshows?
[16:53] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:53] <rilo> mrunagi: any image viewer with a slideshow mode
[16:53] <bod_> !wifi
[16:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:53] <mrunagi> i was looking for something that has text effects and video
[16:53] <adac2> senselab: ?
[16:54] <arturh> hi! I have a gutsy with remote login enabled and a leopard and would like to login from the mac into ubuntu via xdmcp. I've tried /usr/X11/bin/X -query 192.168.2.100
[16:54] <arturh> but it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
[16:54] <storm-ze1> how do I enable web access with guarddog?
[16:54] <amenado> exerdigit-> those directories are own by root, so you have to use sudo cp  /path/to/where/libjavaplugin.so  /usr/lib/firefox*/plugins
[16:54] <senselab> man you guys got problems :P
[16:54] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: I already have the latest version
[16:54] <rilo> mrunagi: I'm sure there is plenty of stuff you could use, I just don't know of any off the top of my head. I'm not the best one to ask though.
[16:54] <senselab> literally
[16:54] <Kanuha> mrunagi, hae you looked into openoffice presentation?
[16:54] <scraga2> where would be the best place to ask to know if the apt-get PHP5 has the GMP functions or not?
[16:54] <egc> senselab: and solutions ;)
[16:55] <mrunagi> im looking at it now Kanuha
[16:55] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: and you still get the error? what are you trying to compile?
[16:55] <amenado> scraga2-> tried #php5  ?
[16:55] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: spca5xx, the driver for USB webcams
[16:55] <scraga2> amenado: no, but I shall now, thanks.
[16:55] <erawfish_> scraga2: phpinfo()
[16:55] <hendrixski> ffm, xinit is not taking the -c option
[16:55] <senselab> egc: exxxactly lol
[16:56] <hendrixski> I never realized how many packages xorg has
[16:56] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: they do mention that it has to be compiled with specific verisons, but I don't really understand that part..
[16:56] <erawfish_> amenado: totally wrong place for him to ask
[16:56] <egc> hehe
[16:56] <scraga2> erawfish_: not installed yet, I wanted to know if I should compile myself or just use apt-get before I installed it
[16:56] <amenado> erawfish_-> okay
[16:56] <senselab> alright cya later
[16:56] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx
[16:56] <solexious> [Q] Bit confused, need to make apt-get upgrade work automated, so if there anre any questions it automaticaly ssays yes
[16:56] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: but I'm not sure that's the problem
[16:57] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: are you following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx ??
[16:57] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: among 3 or 4 other different attempts. I only managed to confuse myself more...
[16:57] <rhsanborn> Hey guys, I'm running gutsy on an HP laptop. I'm using ndiswrapper to get wireless with wpasupplicant, and it does work. The only problem I have, is that every time I login, I have to open the network manager and clear out and type my passkey back in to get it to reconnect
[16:58] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: they mention that you need "ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build "
[16:58] <rhsanborn> Any ideas? I'm almost to the point that I'm going to write a short shell script to run the iwconfig commands manually.
[16:58] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: do I type that in like that?
[16:58] <senselab> rhsanborn: try sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx then sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[16:58] <senselab> if that works, then you were in the same situation as me
[16:58] <amenado> rhsanborn-> you can make it permanent,  modify /etc/network/interfaces to put your keys and such
[16:58] <ethereality> I guess I'll post my question on ubuntuforums ... thanks though.
[16:58] <senselab> oh different problem
[16:58] <senselab> sorry :P
[16:59] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: better follow the guide from start to end
[16:59] <amenado> rhsanborn-> man interfaces for options you can put in there
[16:59] <hendrixski> ffm, oh, I got it... capital C.  Thanks!  This is awesome!!!!
[16:59] <rhsanborn> amenado, I was hoping the gui interface would make it permanent. If I add the lines to the interface file, will I have to change that if I move my laptop to another wireless network?
[16:59] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: those are instructions for 5.10 though; I'm using 7.10
[17:00] <pushpop-> spawN busted by #Sacralis @ ESL -> http://ESL2009.uk.to/
[17:00] <ffm> hendrixski: the magic of FOSS, and *nix in general!
[17:00] <amenado> rhsanborn-> off course it will change, different network have different keys
[17:00] <jcg42> When I try access my a Samba share on another computer I get this error: http://i26.tinypic.com/2e5plhf.jpg
[17:00] <krept> pushpop- who's spawn?
[17:00] <rhsanborn> senselab, I think that it has found the wireless card correctly, it certainly knows how to use it. It's just isn't convenient.
[17:00] <ffm> PriceChild: having a CLI only interface for this music player is probably a good thing, cause it forced me to relearn some basic BASH "while" loops.
[17:01] <RoyK_> hi
[17:01] <amenado> rhsanborn-> are they working now using the gui? maybe its just a matter of copying your interfaces file
[17:01] <exerdigit> amenado-- ok, i managed to copy that libflashplayer.so into the plugin directories.
[17:01] <nettow_>  i re-loaded 7.04 gusty and I have no sound
[17:01] <nettow_>  I think it has something to do with a conflict with my tuner cards
[17:01] <nettow_>  I have pcHDTV HD-5500 & Dvico FusionHDTV5 Gold
[17:01] <nettow_>  everything worked before
[17:01] <amenado> exerdigit-> uhuh, and?
[17:01] <storm-ze1> I need help enabling web / apt access with guarddog.
[17:01] <scraga2> ok, 1 more question, using php5-gmp for GMP support do I install it with the php5 package or instead of?
[17:01] <RoyK_> Ubuntu normally doesn't require a password if starting up in single user mode - how can I turn this on?
[17:01] <rhsanborn> amenado, It does indeed work using the gui, I just have to manually reconnect it every time I reboot my laptop.
[17:01] <nox-Hand> Something is up with my screen in Ubuntu so it starts the cli terminals in really bad resolution: http://omploader.org/vZHFw Anyone know why?
[17:02] <noelferreira> my wireless connection is always switching off with ralink driver (rt61). any help?
[17:02] <winwinwin> why "quota" shows nothing?
[17:02] <jrib> RoyK_: why?
[17:02] <amenado> rhsanborn-> you have setup via gui now right? take a look at your /etc/network/interfaces file, are the keys specified there now? then must make a copy
[17:02] <exerdigit> amenado-- and nothing... it still says i have an old version of flash, or have javascript disabled when i try to watch a youtube video.. am i supposed to be using the 64 or 32 bit version of firefox here?
[17:02] <eifzon> It says operation not permitted when I try tho remove my /var/chroots/users/username?
[17:02] <winwinwin> how to see if quota is enabled?
[17:02] <micro-02> Oi
[17:02] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: yeah they are a little bit out of date becouse the drivers are now included (just checked) with ubuntu
[17:02] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca.ko
[17:03] <bazhang> hi micro-02
[17:03] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: no need to compile them from source
[17:03] <amenado> exerdigit-> look in your about:config to make sure settings are correct
[17:03] <gnychis> are the repository mirrors rate limited to 40Kbps for all clients? I can't seem to find a server which I get more than 40K
[17:03] <micro-02> ai
[17:03] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: so how do I start them/make them work?
[17:03] <micro-02> galera eu preciso coloca o msn aki na maquina
[17:03] <rhsanborn> amenado, it is indeed set there.
[17:03] <micro-02> como que eu gassp
[17:03] <micro-02> fasso
[17:03] <micro-02> ?
[17:03] <ffm> PriceChild: now a question, the files, when downloaded, now have "filenames" like "C:\Foo\Bar\baz.wma" . (see http://pastebin.ca/924713). Is there a regexp I can use to strip all but what's after the \ ?
[17:03] <nettow_>  i re-loaded 7.04 gusty and I have no sound
[17:03] <nettow_>  I think it has something to do with a conflict with my tuner cards
[17:03] <nettow_>  I have pcHDTV HD-5500 & Dvico FusionHDTV5 Gold
[17:03] <nettow_>  everything worked before
[17:03] <bazhang> gnychis: not likely--could be your isp
[17:03] <amenado> exerdigit-> i dont know what cpu you have, if your kernel is 32 bit, then use 32bit
[17:03] <xq> gnychis: No, they should have no limit...
[17:03] <rhsanborn> amenado, Perhaps I will reboot and see if that file is getting changed at some point
[17:03] <micro-02> QWEWE
[17:03] <jrib> !br | micro-02
[17:03] <ubotu> micro-02: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[17:04] <bazhang> micro-02: portuguese?
[17:04] <amenado> rhsanborn-> why not copy first before rebooting?
[17:04] <storm-ze1> Anyone know guarddog?  I need help enabling http and apt access. :(
[17:04] <bazhang> storm-ze1: seems you would want firestarter for gnome ;]
[17:04] <amenado> rhsanborn-> that way its as easy as cp over to nonworking one
[17:04] <exerdigit> amenado-- i downloaded the 64bit of ubuntu since i have the core2 duo... so it should be 64 bit that i installed.
[17:04] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: start loading them if not loaded already 'sudo modprobe gspca'
[17:05] <storm-ze1> bazhang: Firestarter kept disappearing... And I was having trouble getting samba to work with it.
[17:05] <rhsanborn> amenado, eck, was hoping for an elegant, non-interactive solution :P
[17:05] <exerdigit> amenado-- aside from this, i was trying to follow some instructions using nswrapper or something, and i messed up my installer... i cant upgrade anything using the package manger thing
[17:05] <amenado> exerdigit-> you installed it, so you will know what you installed, try it, am not sure if the 64bit firefox is working fully yet though
[17:05] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: then install cheese or something like that to test the webcam (i do not have a webcam so...)
[17:05] <thinkpaduser> can i carry my laptop around while suspended or should i hibernate?
[17:06] <Kanuha> nettow_, did you check under system, preferences, sound to see what device it is using?
[17:06] <jcg42> When I try access a Samba share on another computer I get the error "The folder contents could not be displayed".
[17:06] <xq> thinkpaduser: I recommend suspend...but it's up to you. It depends on battery and personal preferences (also time to use again is a factor).
[17:06] <amenado> rhsanborn-> a few click should not be overly burdensome noh?  :P
[17:06] <ethand_> win: try "quota" in terminal
[17:07] <rhsanborn> thinkpaduser, moving it around while suspended should be just fine, it uses very little power and doesn't do any roaming or anything. I prefer to hibernate for security purposes (dump my memory) but that is a little banal.
[17:07] <thirdy> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu and on starting my computer, I get an error msg "NTLDR is missing", I was able to boot using the boot from HD from the Ubuntu CD
[17:07] <exerdigit> amenado-- i installed 32bit firefox on the side, and installed flash from there, and it all worked great! but once i restarted firefox, it doesnt work at all.
[17:07] <thinkpaduser> jcg42, you might can try 'read only = no' in the server's Share section or check the directory mask?
[17:07] <fco> where are the xscreensavers directory?
[17:07] <fco> in ubuntu
[17:07] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: it still just shows it as a new ehci_hcd device and doesn't start up any video dirver though...
[17:07] <amenado> thinkpaduser-> but be aware some of these suspend mode or hibernate does not fully get you back to a full operation when awakened, so many here complains about missing this or that
[17:08] <storm-ze1> fco:  I just had to find that, just a second.
[17:08] <amenado> exerdigit-> are you sure you are running the 32bit version?
[17:08] <thirdy> can I fix my problem installing grub?
[17:08] <hendrixski> ffm, it is quite magical... Now I'm gonna see about getting all the codecs and video stuff into firefox and see if it plays videos too :-p  This is exciting :-)
[17:08] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: do you get a /dev/video0 or something like that device??
[17:08] <Kanuha> thirdy, yes I think so
[17:08] <rhsanborn> amenado, It's certainly easier than reentering my key and reseting my connection every time, but something along the lines of the Mac/Winblows, automatic solution would be even nicer. If that's the case, I'll just through a boot script in to handle it, but was hoping for an intelligent app that could sense where I was and connect to a predefined set of AP
[17:08] <amenado> thirdy problem with whom?
[17:09] <storm-ze1> You are probably looking for this: /usr/lib/xscreensaver/
[17:09] <Newbuntu2> erUSUL: I already have /dev/video0 & 1 (I have a dual tuner PVR card). but I don't get a video2 or anything...
[17:09] <thirdy> amenado, i get the error msg "NTLDR is missing" on system start
[17:09] <rhsanborn> thinkpaduser, amenado, indeed, my laptop for example will not recover from hibernate atm.
[17:09] <ffm> hendrixski: you probably want to "sudo aptitude install flashplayer" (aptitude is a better form of apt-get, and "sudo" runs the command as the super user)
[17:09] <amenado> rhsanborn-> judicious use of interfaces options may suffice, man interfaces for options
[17:09] <exerdigit> amenado-- in my internet menu. i have FireFox Web Browser, and FireFox32 Web Browser... firefox32 worked with flash once i installed it through there, but now neither of them do anything with flash at all.
[17:09] <solexious> [Q] Bit confused, need to make apt-get upgrade work automated, so if there are any questions it automaticaly says yes
[17:10] <amenado> thirdy-> umm we are not windows support..try #windows
[17:10] <erUSUL> Newbuntu2: :| dunno then... i can not help you further; sorry
[17:10] <rhsanborn> Fortunately, they've done some fantastic work with making linux kernels boot faster, so standby/hibernate are not quite as necessary as in years past.
[17:10] <RiPPeR666> is anyone knowledgeble with nvidia problems with x
[17:10] <rhsanborn> amenado, thanks for your help
[17:10] <thirdy> amenado, yeah but I'm using ubuntu
[17:11] <amenado> exerdigit-> i dont know what to tell you, other than launch it via command line, to make sure you are using the correct version
[17:11] <thinkpaduser> amenado, thanks for the advice.  my Thinkpad has a BIOS password when resuming from suspend or hibernation.  i use that for security
[17:11] <amenado> rhsanborn-> you're welcome, good luck
[17:11] <luica2> hello
[17:11] <amenado> thirdy but the NTLDR error is not an ubuntu feature/error
[17:11] <Belboz99> Hey all, this is what happens when I run glxgears:
[17:11] <Belboz99> http://dansfah.hopto.org/3D_Issue.png
[17:11] <thinkpaduser> amenado, and i haven't had any issues with resuming.  it seems exactly where i put it, save dropping the wireless network
[17:12] <rhsanborn> amenado, thirdy, depends on which version of ubuntu you installed, some are not quite as kind to vista partitions. Vista is even more nasty then older versions of windows with the bootloader. Installing the wrong version of ubunutu alongside vista will cause that error
[17:12] <amenado> thinkpaduser-> yeah, somehow it seems the hibernate, suspend is not ready yet..but work is in progress
[17:12] <iDivine> I have a folder, but it won't let me open it. It says, "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of ___". What happened ;(.
[17:12] <Belboz99> I have an ATI Radeon 3650, running Xorg version 1.3, do I need to somehow upgrade Xorg to version 1.4?
[17:12] <munk_> can somebody help me with wine? or tell me the channel for wine help please?
[17:12] <Newbuntu2> can someone help me with my webcam setup?
[17:12] <Kanuha> thirdy, it sounds like grub did not overwrite the windows loader, try installing grub again
[17:12] <Scunizi> How do I find out if slocate is scheduled to update the index files and when?
[17:13] <thirdy> kanuha, ok I'll install it with apt, is that ok?
[17:13] <amenado> rhsanborn-> i have not even toyed with vista yet, i let you all early adopters tell us the wonderful experiences :P
[17:13] <thinkpaduser> amenado, uswsusp was difficult to get working in Ubuntu Gutsy for me.  i need to build a custom kernel with the SLAB allocator for it to resume the ATI card, IIRC
[17:13] <exerdigit> amenado-- i am getting an error regarding dpkg being interrupted, and its telling me to run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct it... so i did that, and i still get an error when trying to install ANYthing...
[17:13] <nettow_> kanuha....yes I did,,,and I changed it to the correct sound....
[17:13] <rhsanborn> amenado, my laptop came with vista and I'm running ubuntu if that tells you anything :P
[17:13] <Kanuha> thirdy, I think that should work
[17:13] <echo_mirage> how to remove my graphicsadapter from the compiz blacklist? or disable check? i don find the config file
[17:13] <iDivine> I have a folder, but it won't let me open it. It says, "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of ___". What happened ;(.
[17:14] <amenado> rhsanborn-> you are of the few lucky ones..hehe
[17:14] <unknow1> need help
[17:14] <storm-ze1> !iptables
[17:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[17:14] <unknow1> on wireless
[17:14] <rhsanborn> amenado, only prob with vista is that it's forcing manufacturers to come out with even more locked up hardware. This ubuntu install was a nightmare.
[17:14] <thirdy> rhsanborn, I have xp sp2, then I got malwares from a friends flash drive so I installed ubuntu 7.10
[17:14] <nettow_> kanuha...I changed the device under the volume....that seemed to fix it
[17:14] <unknow1> i set up iwconfig eth1 mode ;; essid ;; rate ;; etc.....
[17:15] <amenado> rhsanborn i believe you, at first i heard of windows only pc...now i believe it
[17:15] <storm-ze1> What command do I use to access iptables?  /etc/init.d doesn't have an iptables command, and I can't access http right now to try to figure out how ubuntu does it.
[17:15] <thinkpaduser> rhsanborn, can i ask what laptop you use?
[17:15] <unknow1> but on the other side ( client ) no networks appears
[17:15] <rhsanborn> thirdy, Kanuha was correct, it sounds like the bootloader wasn't written correctly
[17:15] <scraga2> ok, turns out the php5-gmp module is hardy only, anything similar on gutsy, or will I need to compile it myself?
[17:15] <erUSUL> storm-ze1: you are trying to make a custom iptables script??
[17:15] <rhsanborn> thinkpaduser, HP Thinkpad dv6500
[17:16] <amenado> exerdigit-> im sorry to hear, btw i have no experience with dual cores/quad cores and 64bit so im not able to assist
[17:16] <rhsanborn> amenado, HP and MS got in bed together with Vista. Fortunately, OS community is catching up with drivers.
[17:16] <Kanuha> nettow_, yeah, I forgot you can change it there too
[17:16] <storm-ze1> erUSUL: No-- just trying to open my http port.
[17:16] <unknow1> can someone help me ?
[17:16] <exerdigit> amenado-- alright, thanks for trying
[17:16] <RiPPeR666> how do i download and install envy in terminal. cant get into x
[17:16] <unknow1> have wireless problem
[17:16] <thirdy> rhasanborn, Kanuha, grub is already the newest version
[17:16] <nox-Hand> Anyone know anything about my resoltion problem? |---------------------------|----------------------||
[17:16] <nox-Hand> |---------------------------|----------------------||
[17:17] <nox-Hand> Oops, sorry about that paste there
[17:17] <nox-Hand> But question stands
[17:17] <erUSUL> storm-ze1: by default ubuntu does not have iptables rules enabled
[17:17] <Kanuha> thirdy, reinstall
[17:17] <RiPPeR666> how do i download and install envy in terminal. cant get into x
[17:17] <mrunagi> im running kubuntu but im getting no answer i suspect its a *ubuntu issue.........but i have a conexant card that the video feed is scrambled......can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[17:17] <erUSUL> !envy | RiPPeR666
[17:17] <ubotu> RiPPeR666: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:17] <storm-ze1> erUSUL: Something happened when I installed guarddog...
[17:17] <mrunagi> RiPPeR666: you cant
[17:17] <rhsanborn> Kanuha, thirdy, do you remember the command to tell grub to rewrite the bootloader/
[17:17] <mrunagi> RiPPeR666: did you break your X?
[17:17] <iDivine> I have a folder, but it won't let me open it. It says, "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of ___". What happened ;(.
[17:17] <Kanuha> rhsanborn, no, sorry
[17:17] <rhsanborn> thirdy, have you ever been able to boot into this install of ubunutu?
[17:18] <unknow1> have configured iwconfig as ad-hoc on wireless have fixed ip on ifconfig but on the windows side when i scan for the network nothing shows up and stills configured as ap can someone help me out please ?
[17:18] <RiPPeR666> mrunagi: nope just installed 7.10 after boot splash monito goes bakc
[17:18] <thinkpaduser> rhsanborn, amenado, i was lucky enough to have been shipped a laptop without a preloaded OS.  and this thing is a rock with Linux
[17:18] <RiPPeR666> black
[17:18] <erUSUL> storm-ze1: then use guarddog to open port 80...
[17:18] <nettow_> ty kanuha...I apprecaite the help
[17:18] <iDivine> I have a folder, but it won't let me open it. It says, "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of ___". What happened ;(. It seems to me my Desktop is 'inactive'. It wont let me do ANYTHING on it. help?
[17:19] <rhsanborn> thinkpaduser, per your name, I'm assuming it's a thinkpad?
[17:19] <thirdy> rhsanborn, no after installing ubuntu then restart, I got the error, so I used the boot from hd option in the ubuntu CD
[17:19] <storm-ze1> erUSUL: That was the idea.  ... only I don't know how...
[17:19] <thinkpaduser> rhsanborn, T60, yes
[17:19] <amenado> thinkpaduser-> alright..dont let windows get near it lest in vmware or virtual box..
[17:19] <diafic> Why is openoffice hideous?
[17:19] <diafic> All the icons are missing and replaced by text
[17:19] <storm-ze1> erUSUL: I tried enabling HTTP for both Internet and Local, but that doesn't seem to do it.
[17:19] <diafic> !openoffice
[17:19] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[17:19] <rhsanborn> thinkpaduser, I had very good luck with a couple thinkpads in the past, great systems.
[17:19] <RiPPeR666> been messing around with 7.10 for a day cant get it to work
[17:19] <thinkpaduser> amenado, i lost the need for my vmware XP image months ago :)
[17:19] <RiPPeR666> oin 2nd day now
[17:19] <unknow1> have configured iwconfig as ad-hoc on wireless have fixed ip on ifconfig but on the windows side when i scan for the network nothing shows up and stills configured as ap can someone help me out please ?
[17:20] <amenado> thirdy you were trying to boot into ubuntu but getting the NTLDR error?
[17:20] <rhsanborn> thirdy, let me go see if I can find the command to rewrite the bootloader. Although, it might be easier to try reinstalling. One min please
[17:20] <thinkpaduser> rhsanborn, i am very pleased with it
[17:20] <subsume> Is there any way to use apt to make a 7.04 system a 7.10 system?
[17:20] <amenado> thinkpaduser-> what do you use your laptop for ? which app just curious..
[17:20] <PriceChild> !fixgrub | thinkpaduser rhsanborn
[17:20] <ubotu> thinkpaduser rhsanborn: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:20] <erUSUL> storm-ze1: http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/manual2/using-guarddog.html#id2406324
[17:21] <storm-ze1> erUSUL: No http access, remember?
[17:21] <storm-ze1> :)
[17:21] <rhsanborn> PriceChild, thanks.
[17:21] <RiPPeR666> i want to lern some linux but i cant even get x to load after install. i have learned alot of cmds but still luck getting x to load
[17:21] <LoLLo> how can i convert a GIMP extension in a JPG extension ? ? ? ?
[17:21] <subsume> QUESTION: Is there any way to use apt to make a 7.04 system a 7.10 system?
[17:21] <unknow1> have configured iwconfig as ad-hoc on wireless have fixed ip on ifconfig but on the windows side when i scan for the network nothing shows up and stills configured as ap can someone help me out please ?
[17:21] <iDivine> I have a folder, but it won't let me open it. It says, "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of ___". What happened ;(. It seems to me my Desktop is 'inactive'. It wont let me do ANYTHING on it. help?
[17:21] <erUSUL> storm-ze1: i thought you were trying to open port 80 to *serve* pages...
[17:21] <rhsanborn> thirdy, there you go, that's the ticket to reload grub.
[17:21] <thinkpaduser> amenado, all around computing.  mostly Kismet :P
[17:21] <thirdy> amenado, I get NTLDR error at the start, maybe XP is causing this
[17:21] <storm-ze1> erUSUL: No, I can't see web pages at all. :(
[17:21] <erUSUL> storm-ze1: you can not disable guarddog ??
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> subsume, Yes  type /msg ubotu upgrade
[17:22] <amenado> thinkpaduser-> ah okay
[17:22] <erUSUL> LoLLo: open the file choos "save as"
[17:22] <thirdy> rhsanborn, sorry where?
[17:22] <rhsanborn> thirdy, when you boot, does grub give you a list of options to boot into/
[17:22] <thirdy> rhsanborn, no I don't even see grub
[17:23] <storm-ze1> erUSUL: I don't want to disable my firewall... that isn't safe..
[17:23] <mrunagi> im running kubuntu but im getting no answer i suspect its a *ubuntu issue.........but i have a conexant card that the video feed is scrambled......can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[17:23] <amenado> thirdy-> it looks like your grub was not installed yet
[17:23] <SHyTRiGGeR> hi all, please which paquage should i use to install an irc server ?
[17:23] <rhsanborn> thirdy, ubotu sent a message about 30 lines up. Those sites should have info on telling the computer to reinstall grub without completely reinstalling.
[17:23] <thinkpaduser> amenado, i use it mostly for LAN/Desktop work roaming around at work
[17:24] <thirdy> rhsanborn, amenado, what the command for apt to reinstall?
[17:24] <unknow1> have configured iwconfig as ad-hoc on wireless have fixed ip on ifconfig but on the windows side when i scan for the network nothing shows up and stills configured as ap can someone help me out please ?
[17:24] <rhsanborn> !fixgrub | thirdy
[17:24] <ubotu> thirdy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:24] <bullgard4> English help wanted. Where does the name 'slab' come from for "in-kernel data structures cache"?
[17:24] <phiqtion> i know this isn't the place to ask but everybody here has alot of knowledge so here it goes, how can i delete a protected folder with protected subdirectories in windows xp accidentally transfered to my pc and it carries the owner's privileges from the other computer! and i can't delete it no matter what i try, Safe mode, Killdisk, etc. any thoughts? thanks in advance
[17:24] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows like here
[17:24] <bazhang> oops
[17:24] <amenado> thinkpaduser-> nice, sitting in a cubicle is a bummer...you get to visit everyone..
[17:24] <subsume> Jack_Sparrow: woops.
[17:24] <subsume> Jack_Sparrow: woops. what about Edubuntu machines?
[17:24] <luical> help please. i need some advice with ntfs 3g
[17:25] <rhsanborn> brb, I have to reset my darn cable modem...getting 80k down atm....
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> subsume, Should be the same process
[17:25] <amenado> !fixgrub | thirdy
[17:25] <ubotu> thirdy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:25] <thinkpaduser> amenado, indeed
[17:25] <cornell> I'd asked a question, and some responded, but it's scrolled off.  Is there an archive of this room?
[17:25] <thirdy> rhsanborn, amenado, thank you very much, I'll be back
[17:25] <erUSUL> storm-ze1: some windows inherited paranoia?? XD not as dangerous in linux believe me but anyway... i do not use guarddog s i dunno how it sets up the firewall maybe you can go through its configuration disabling protections to find out which one prevents the browser to work
[17:25] <amenado> thirdy okay dokee
[17:25] <phiqtion> i know this isn't the place to ask but everybody here has alot of knowledge so here it goes, how can i delete a protected folder with protected subdirectories in windows xp accidentally transfered to my pc and it carries the owner's privileges from the other computer! and i can't delete it no matter what i try, Safe mode, Killdisk, etc. any thoughts? thanks in advance
[17:25] <luical> please help me with ntfs 3g
[17:25] <storm-ze1> erUSUL: Ok.  Thanks.
[17:25] <luical> i dont have any write support
[17:26] <luical> hello
[17:26] <senselab> hi
[17:26] <luical> please help me
[17:26] <amenado> phiqtion-> on an ntfs partition? or ext3 ?
[17:26] <senselab> wasup
[17:26] <phiqtion> ntfs xp bro
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> luical, We see you , please do not repeat.. are you running gutsy?
[17:26] <phiqtion> amenado: ntfs xp
[17:26] <luical> its an internal drive
[17:26] <luical> no, im in feisty
[17:26] <unknow1> have configured iwconfig as ad-hoc on wireless have fixed ip on ifconfig but on the windows side when i scan for the network nothing shows up and stills configured as ap can someone help me out please ?
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme | luical
[17:26] <ubotu> luical: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[17:27] <amenado> phiqtion-> you are trying to delete this from ubuntu with ntfs-3g support right?
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs
[17:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[17:27] <Phrozen_One> how can I copy files in the terminal with a progress bar?
[17:27] <phiqtion> amenado: from xp, but i do have access to the live cd
[17:27] <luical> im trying to have complete acces to my files in my old ntfs drive
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> luical, read the link above.. ntfs
[17:28] <luical> i have ntfs 3 g, but when i activete it a big error screen pops up
[17:28] <spirit_> hi i ask for a 10 cds al 10 cd has a problem
[17:28] <spirit_> don't boot
[17:28] <spirit_> don't forrmat disk
[17:28] <amenado> phiqtion-> there are some hidden setting for ntfs file attributes,  btw are you sure you want to delete these files/directories?
[17:28] <spirit_> etc etc
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> luical, it would be helpful to know what the error is
[17:29] <Starnestommy> spirit_: did you get the right CDs for your processors?
[17:29] <phiqtion> amenado: totally sure
[17:29] <spirit_> what did you mean by righ cd for your processors
[17:29] <fco> How xscreensavers are made? is there a tutorial over there?
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> spirit_, Did you try them on any other computers
[17:29] <spirit_> i also got a broken cd
[17:30] <spirit_> yes..
[17:30] <amenado> phiqtion-> on ubuntu, there is also  getacl to look at attributes, chattr to change it, and shred to completely remove a file not (vanished forever)
[17:30] <amenado> rahter vanish it forever
[17:30] <mrunagi> im running kubuntu but im getting no answer i suspect its a *ubuntu issue.........but i have a conexant card that the video feed is scrambled......can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[17:30] <phiqtion> amenado: can i do this from the 7.10 live cd? or from xp? i need to delete this protected folder asap.
[17:30] <unknow1> have configured iwconfig as ad-hoc on wireless have fixed ip on ifconfig but on the windows side when i scan for the network nothing shows up and stills configured as ap on iwlist it apear to be up but nothing on the other wi-card
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> spirit_, What hardware are you running and which cd's did you order
[17:31] <tehCurtis> how do i setup a new domain's dns on my bare bones ubuntu server?
[17:31] <spirit_> 32 bit cd
[17:31] <spirit_> try it on an AMD
[17:31] <amenado> phiqtion-> are you trying to hide your tracks? hehehe..yeah on liveCD  you can try those command i suggested
[17:31] <tehCurtis> is there some program that i need to access?
[17:31] <spirit_> and a P3
[17:32] <amenado> unknow1-> both sides has to be adhoc
[17:32] <Jack_Sparrow> spirit_, exactly what happens when you boot it up with the cd in the drive
[17:32] <phiqtion> amenado: lol, my ntfs doesn't get mounted by default on the live cd
[17:32] <spirit_> each cd has it own problem
[17:32]  * beautifulsnow asks: I know that my logitech media play mouse works in ubuntu because it has before, but I did a ubuntu reinstall and now it doesn't: anyone know how to make the media buttons work? 
[17:32] <unknow1> it doesnt appear on windows side
[17:32] <cornell> !archive
[17:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:32] <amenado> phiqtion-> you have to mount the partition
[17:32] <Jack_Sparrow> spirit_, Pick one
[17:32] <spirit_> 1 starts in the live mode well
[17:32] <amenado> phiqtion-> with the correct fs type off course
[17:32] <spirit_> but when doing partition
[17:33] <konner> How do i install diffrent start buttons for Ubuntu?
[17:33] <unknow1> amenado : run iwconfig eth1 adhoc :: essid rate but it doesnt show the essid on the windows card
[17:33] <spirit_> there was an error
[17:33] <Jack_Sparrow> konner, If you are trying to replace the ubuntu icon where it says applications.. you dont
[17:33] <phiqtion> amenado: im lost :(, shouldn't the ntfs volume be mounted by default with write/read access in the 7.10 live cd?
[17:33] <spirit_> forget what it was
[17:33] <amenado> unknow1-> is the windows in adhoc mode?
[17:33] <unknow1> amenado, : i can see others networks not mine and stills configurated
[17:33] <beautifulsnow> konner: you need to replace /usr/share/cions/YOURTHEMEHERE/ look for your current icon and replace all of them with the one you want :)
[17:33] <konner> No im using the main menu button
[17:33] <konner> ...
[17:33] <unknow1> windows is a client not ad-hoc
[17:33] <unknow1> ad-hoc is on ubuntu
[17:34] <konner> I changed the panels
[17:34] <solexious> [Q] Bit confused, need to make apt-get upgrade work automated, so if there are any questions it automaticaly says yes
[17:34] <unknow1> scanning channels not showing ubuntu one
[17:34] <amenado> phiqtion-> liveCD does not know which drive you have on your machine, so it can not just mount it without you telling what is there, besides thats not whats its purpose is
[17:34] <spirit_> when i use anothe cd the error was about the gnome graphic
[17:34] <Newbuntu2> can someone help me with a webcam? it doesn't get picked up when I plug it in
[17:34] <Starnestommy> solexious: try apt-get -y update
[17:34] <Jack_Sparrow> spirit_, Sorry I dont have time to help you with that.. you need to supply more info on the error you are getting
[17:34] <phiqtion> amenado: how can i mount it to delete the protected file in ntfs
[17:34] <solexious> Star: Thank you
[17:35] <Starnestommy> solexious: er, sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[17:35] <konner> beautifulsnow: How do i do that.
[17:35] <whileimhere> Hi. I am in the middle of a large torrent download with Deluge. I need to transfer the whole torrent to another workstation and allow it to keep going. Is this possible?\
[17:35] <spirit_> ok
[17:35] <amenado> phiqtion-> from the menu Places  can you select the drive and partition?
[17:35] <spirit_> i think it's the cds
[17:35] <phiqtion> amenando: no it doesnt show up
[17:35] <spirit_> thank
[17:36] <amenado> whileimhere-> you may transfer the initial torrent file? but it will start from beginning
[17:36] <beautifulsnow> konner: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-205638.html  you will have to know what the theme you are using is
[17:36] <subsume> how the heck do I tar my home directory?
[17:36] <subsume> tar -cf /home/me/home.tar /home isn't working
[17:36] <whileimhere> Amenado: I was hoping to avoid that since its like 16 gig file
[17:36] <subsume> uh oh recursive problem
[17:37] <amenado> whileimhere-> oh well...sometimes we come across limitations
[17:37] <unknow1> amenado : ??
[17:37] <amenado> unknow1-> is the windows in adhoc mode?
[17:37] <whileimhere> yeah so its best to let it finish and then just save it to DVD
[17:37] <phiqtion> amenando: no it doesnt show up
[17:37] <unknow1> amenado: windows is a client does it to be configured as an ad-hoc or it connects to the ad-hoc one ?
[17:37] <amenado> whileimhere-> yep
[17:38] <Jack_Sparrow> subsume, tar cvpzf backupdell.tgz --exclude=/backupdell.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found  --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media --exclude=/root/.Trash -- /home
[17:38] <z_> Anyone here good with hard drives?
[17:38] <amenado> unknow1-> it may have to be configured as such..not 100% sure
[17:38] <subsume> Jack_Sparrow: that's a keeper, eh?
[17:38] <unknow1> amenado : windows connect to ad-hoc on ubuntu ,.... but ubuntu appears to tx but it really doesnt
[17:39] <amenado> phiqtion-> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdaX /mountpoint
[17:39] <unknow1> on opensuse it works ubuntu nothing
[17:39] <unknow1> argbh
[17:39] <Jack_Sparrow> subsume, most of those excludes are not needed, that was my full backup command ...
[17:39] <phiqtion> amenado: with that i can delete?
[17:39] <amenado> unknow1-> use suse then?
[17:39] <unknow1> amenado, : i like ubuntu
[17:39] <amenado> phiqtion-> after it is mounted, i assume so, try it
[17:39] <amenado> unknow1-> then get an AP
[17:40] <subsume> Jack_Sparrow: I wasn't getting that neat upgrade button in edubuntu 7.04
[17:40] <phiqtion> thx
[17:40] <sinbox> whileimhere I think if you transfer both the torrent file and the data and make sure the pointer correspond it will resume, if not redownload the torrent file and make it point at where the data you've moved is
[17:40] <unknow1> amenado, : thanks anyway for the hand
[17:40] <amenado> unknow1-> or a hub so they can communicate
[17:41] <whileimhere> Ill just leave it where it is for now. It only has 24 hours to go.
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> subsume, You can follow the manual steps.. apt-get update apt-get upgrade and apt-get distro-upgrade.. check that last command for spelling on disrto..
[17:41] <efren20> whats the best media player to listen to mp3 files
[17:41] <d> desktop effect doest not work well as my graphic card is restricted...what can i do to solve this
[17:41] <subsume> Jack_Sparrow: I'm more comfy with that anyway
[17:41] <amenado> tinman were you able to connect?
[17:41] <subsume> Thanks
[17:41]  * beautifulsnow asks: I'm googling but I can't find anything helpful: My LOGITECH MEDIA PLAY mouse fun buttons don't work, but I know they DO work in Ubuntu because they did before the reinstall. Could you give me a few pointers (no pun intended) on how I may make them work?
[17:42] <whileimhere> I am sad to say that for my arcade emulator I have to switch over to M$ Windows again. AHHHH
[17:42] <subsume> Jack_Sparrow: setting up FAT client lab today. fun =)
[17:42] <nemesis256> So I'm trying to boot up Ubuntu for the first time on a Mac Pro. I got to the initial menu, and selected the first option to install or boot Ubuntu. After that, I got to the loading screen with the orange bar. After a short while, the bar duplicated itself several times on the screen. After that probably about 5 screens followed with strange colors and patterns. The last one was white with some pink/red coloring. At this point th
[17:42] <nemesis256> e CD stopped spinning, so I just held down the power button to turn off.
[17:42] <nemesis256> What could be the problem? The graphics card in my Mac Pro is a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT. I am using the 32 bit version of Ubuntu. Would the 64 bit make any difference?
[17:43] <me> gnome compiz-fusion manager package name?
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> subsume, Good luck..  Im leaving for a bit..
[17:43] <subsume> Jack_Sparrow: righto. see ya
[17:43] <scraga2> attempting to build dependencies on PHP5 and get this error: E: Package libsnmp10-dev has no installation candidate
[17:43] <rhsanborn> amenado, found out my problem. It has to do with wpa_supplicant. When the system is booting, and bringing up my network card, it tries to establish connectivity, and issues an ifup command, but at that point, it's unable to start wpa, and that is why I have to mess with the network manager, because I have to force it to reset the network, and restart the connection with wpa.
[17:43] <amenado> beautifulsnow-> umm try the xorg.conf options for ZAxisMapping ?
[17:44] <[chr0n0s]> what version of kernel hardy uses
[17:44] <asc> Is there a "do not let /var/log eat one million gigabytes of disk space" option anywhere?
[17:44] <efren20> whats the best media player to listen to mp3 files
[17:44] <lastelement0> hey all, i just fully converted over to ubuntu and i am unable to get compiz functioning so i can get the cube. i have a dell inspiron e1505 with ati x1400 card and i have the restricted driver enabled
[17:44] <amenado> rhsanborn-> there are the options preup  to get things loaded or executed first, it should not establish connectivity til those drivers are loaded and such
[17:44] <rhsanborn> amenado, a change to the if rules allows the system to try and reestablish connectivity automatically when wpa_supplicant finally gets loaded.
[17:44] <beautifulsnow> amenado: the left/right/middle/scroll works fine, I want the Volume up/down, Previous/Next, Pause buttons to work, and they have before ^_^;
[17:45] <SatMan> can we use ubuntu in schools for free?
[17:45] <beautifulsnow> yes SatMan
[17:45] <SatMan> thanks,
[17:45] <adaptr> SatMan: you can use it *anywhere* for free
[17:45] <adaptr> including the Moon, on Mars, and in cyberspace
[17:46] <beautifulsnow> ^_^;
[17:46] <efren20> wahts the best mp3 media player to download in ubuntu
[17:46] <rhsanborn> amenado, the problem was that after ifup is issued, it sets the flag to "up" for my wireless, even though it really isn't, and so when wpa_supplicant comes online, it tries to ifup again, but ignores my wireless because it's already marked as "up".
[17:46] <asc> but can you use it to design cyborg dolphins with lasers to take over the world?
[17:46] <amenado> rhsanborn-> cool you got it figured out..so you have to modify if-pre-up.d scripts?
[17:46] <lastelement0> hey all, i just fully converted over to ubuntu and i am unable to get compiz functioning so i can get the cube. i have a dell inspiron e1505 with ati x1400 card and i have the restricted driver enabled
[17:46] <rhsanborn> amenado, a change to the rules allows it to try again....
[17:46] <rhsanborn> amenado, /etc/udev/rules.d/85-ifupdown.rules
[17:46] <adaptr> lastelement0: ati the sux0rz when it comes to compiz
[17:47] <Jorge_> how do you turn on compiz 3D in ubuntu 7.1
[17:47] <amenado> rhsanborn-> ah okay, for the next boot
[17:47] <loser2012> anyone try out b4 ubuntu ultimate edition?
[17:47] <lastelement0> adaptr, i had previously had ubuntu running when i was dual booting. so i know it works, i just forget how i got it to work lol
[17:47] <subsume> There is some mechanism updating the clients in my /etc/passwd lab to reflect new users.
[17:48] <subsume> subsume: I'm just not sure what that mechanism is. How do I find out?
[17:48] <efren20> whats the best media player for ubuntu anyone know
[17:48] <rhsanborn> amenado, it's a workaround, but, importantly it's a WORK around :P
[17:48] <amenado> rhsanborn-> thats one thing I dislike about udev, its covers everything, and this was not like this in older linux. so we re-learn new things again
[17:48] <Scunizi> If I take excess fonts in ~/.fonts and zip them leaving the zip file in the same directory, will reconfiguring the font cache hic-up when looking at the zip file? or will it read the fonts contained in it?
[17:48] <efren20> that you can listne to mp3 files
[17:48] <asc> efren: there's like 20 of them. The best one is the one you like most.
[17:48] <amenado> rhsanborn-> include sysfs and apci events
[17:48] <iratik> efren20: try xmms... its like a winamp clone
[17:48] <iratik> For some reason , nautilus is not opening up ... What alternate file browsers are there?
[17:49] <amenado> never a dull moment with linux constantly re-learning!!!
[17:49] <candyban_> Can anyone explain me how to make ALSA work? ... I have a 7.1 soundcard with SPDIF out (coax + optical) ... but I can't seem to output anything but stereo on my front speakers (analogue)
[17:49] <Scunizi> iratik, thunar is one
[17:49] <efren20> iratik:were do i find it please link me
[17:49] <[chr0n0s]> lastelement0, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[17:49] <vignesh> how to i download the repositories into my local hard drive so that i can distribute it to my friends through LAN..??
[17:49] <Scunizi> iratik, gnome commander
[17:49] <iratik> efren20: to find software for your installation, go to the menu and click Add/Remove
[17:49] <asc> iratik: thunar like he said. pcmanfm is incredibly fast, also.
[17:49] <candyban_> I've read a lot on Alsa ... and I understand some of the more advanced features like sound routing and stuff, but nowhere anything about getting the damn stuff to work
[17:49] <[chr0n0s]> vignesh, repos are huge i think
[17:49] <rhsanborn> amenado, not familiar with that specifically. I haven't gotten into boot orders and such much.
[17:50] <amenado> subsume-> what do you mean update /etc/passwd?
[17:50] <asc> iratik: of course, real men use bash
[17:50] <subsume> There is some mechanism appending the /etc/passwd file in the client machines in my computer lab to reflect new users added to the server. HOW TO find out what mechanism that might be?
[17:50] <vignesh> yeah.. but still i have a fast interenet connection @ home, my frenz dont have it... so i need to download them..
[17:50] <hemelskonijn> w00t ... ubuntu runs nice :D ... no need to mod a lot before it runs on my laptop :D
[17:50] <[chr0n0s]> asc, bash is default, real men use zsh
[17:50] <iratik> asc: bash is awesome, i'm used to it... but these mp3 files on this mp3 player are all... not very bash friendly
[17:50] <asc> iratik: Install mplayer - you can run it from the command like
[17:50] <Scunizi> vignesh, there is a program in synaptic that will allow you to create a repository on a cd, but I've forgotten the name.  You'll have problems downloading all the things in the repos. it's thousands of packages.
[17:51] <asc> chr0n0s: Real men use punch cards
[17:51] <loser2012> is this version any better? http://ultimateedition.info/
[17:51] <amenado> rhsanborn-> newer linux uses udev with sysfs and events as opposed to older devfs and other things like inittab, sysfive init.d
[17:51] <vignesh> Scunizi, cant i download them to an external hard disk??
[17:51] <asc> no wait, they toggle the switches by hand
[17:51] <[chr0n0s]> asc, then real men are extinct according to you theory, which is wrong, hence proved :S
[17:51] <candyban_> anyone familiar with getting ALSA to work?
[17:51] <Scunizi> vignesh, sure you can.. but you want ALL of the packages?
[17:51] <[chr0n0s]> vignesh, use apt-on-cd
[17:51] <[chr0n0s]> or aptoncd
[17:51] <K_Nine> candyban_:  I thought they took Alsa out of ubuntu.
[17:52] <vignesh> Scunizi, no not all.. but how to i find specific repos alone.??
[17:52] <[chr0n0s]> i don't really remember the name
[17:52] <vignesh> [chr0n0s], thanks
[17:52] <candyban_> K_Nine, huh????
[17:52] <amenado> subsume-> you want the users (acessing the client host) to access the server  ? central authentication?
[17:52] <efren20> irakti:wha twas the name again?
[17:52] <subsume> amenado: I want to centralize the users and was in the process of installing LDAP but now I am discovering the users are being propagated already, somehow.
[17:52] <pliumbum> i have a problem with grub - when i try to load windows,  i get error 13 invalid or unsupported executable format
[17:52] <candyban_> K_Nine, then what do they use? OSS? (doubt they would get far)
[17:52] <pliumbum> anybody can help?
[17:53] <Scunizi> vignesh, I think what asking is how to find the repos and download what you want directly right? if so you can do that via the command line using apt
[17:53] <thirdy> amenado, grub still doesn't start
[17:53] <Gmo> real simple xorg question: how can I tell which driver is actually loaded?  Xorg.0.log correctly identifies the chipset as Radeon Xpress 1200, but how can I verify that it is actually using the new xorg-video-radeonhd driver?
[17:53] <K_Nine> candyban_:  I read there was a problem with alsa. Try Google sound ubuntu.
[17:53] <adaptr> Gmo: read the Xorg log
[17:53]  * iratik is reading about zsh and likes what he sees
[17:53] <Gmo> I did, that's where I found the chipset
[17:53] <adaptr> Gmo: the one that it blabbers about is the one that it loaded
[17:53] <amenado> subsume-> the clients were added to the server side and not on the host clients? but somehow clients can directly log onto client host?
[17:54] <iratik> actually... a guide like this for bash would be great.!
[17:54] <adaptr> Gmo: it does not tell you what chipset you have without also loading the driver
[17:54] <Gmo> but a search on the grep -i radeon doesn't ever say radeonhd
[17:54] <gravemind> hey guys -- I'm having trouble using the rhythmbox last.fm plugin - it says "handshake failed" and isn't submitting my scrobbled tracks to the server. any ideas?
[17:54] <vignesh> Scunizi, nope.. im not askin abt downloadin and installin them in mine.. im asking about downloading and givin it to my frenz thru lan.. coz my frenz dont have direct internet access..
[17:54] <pliumbum> i have a problem with grub - when i try to load windows,  i get error 13 invalid or unsupported executable format
[17:54] <pliumbum> what should i do?
[17:54] <amenado> thirdy-> what do you get now when you boot? do you get the grub menu?
[17:54] <flats> I am running feisty and I am quite a noob.  Anyway after I choose my linux option from my bootloader, I get a really screwed up screen which almost looks like the monitor loses sync.  Then after a min, I assume X or GDM loads and everything is fine.  I went into my grub and made sure my vga=normal and thats OK.  I believe it's the login screen that gets scrambled and since I auto login, It's OK after it logs in.  Any idea how I fix that?
[17:54] <Gmo> but it did say the chipset before I added the radeonhd driver
[17:54] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small, it seems the padding/spacing is missing
[17:54] <adaptr> Gmo: it mentions the exact driver name - I am willing to bet that you don't know what that is actually called
[17:54] <iratik> i mean... a guide like this "http://zsh.dotsrc.org/Intro/intro_toc.html" but for bash, so i can see what bash is really capable of
[17:54] <efren20> anyone know a good mp3 m3edia player to download to ubuntu gnome?
[17:54] <Scunizi> vignesh, I understand.. apt will still download without installing them on your machine. You'll then be able to copy the .deb files to the external hd
[17:54] <thirdy> amenado, still the same
[17:54] <Gmo> adaptr, that is likely.  the package is radeonhd, but what driver does that load?
[17:55] <amenado> thirdy-> how did you install grub what commands?
[17:55] <subsume> amenado: computer lab. 30 computers. want people to be able to login to whichever. i suspect the server is updating client machines with new users
[17:55] <subsume> i don't know how
[17:55] <Gmo> /usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/radeonhd.ids
[17:55] <thirdy> amenado, root(hd0,2) then setup(hd0)
[17:55] <vignesh> Scunizi, oh is that so?? can u plz explain step by step.. coz am a very much newbie..
[17:55] <gravemind> efren20- what kind of music player are you looking for? there are lots
[17:55] <K_Nine> efren20:  Try Rhythmbox.
[17:55] <thirdy> amenado, is GfxBoot ok?
[17:55] <adaptr> Gmo: this is where you read the Xorg log :)
[17:55] <asc> flats: you could try removing the "splash" option from the line. You'll get text instead of the shiny loading bar, but it's helped for me with similar problems.
[17:55] <Gmo> so I am no further ahead because a grep for radeon does not disclose that string either
[17:55] <efren20> rythmbox dosent sopport mp3
[17:55] <amenado> thirdy-> i dont konw about GfxBoot..never used it
[17:56] <gravemind> efren20: it does, you have to have the right plugins installed
[17:56] <asc> *from the line in /boot/grub/*lst
[17:56] <amenado> subsume-> maybe you have NIS running?
[17:56] <K_Nine> efren20: Have you added the mp3 codecs?
[17:56] <efren20> i need one that ould play downloaded songs from a special website and there mp3 files
[17:56] <Scunizi> vignesh, I'm not great with apt at the command line.. open a terminal and type man apt.. there's more info there. you can also try info apt
[17:56] <efren20> nop
[17:56] <mnereson> anyone know where php.ini is?
[17:56] <vignesh> [chr0n0s], hey.. apt-cd-on doesnt work..
[17:56] <subsume> amenado: how would I tell?
[17:56] <amenado> thirdy-> how did you get to issue those commands? from a liveCD ?
[17:56] <vignesh> Scunizi, thanks a lot :)
[17:56]  * Gmo is going to diff the xorg logs with and without that driver installed ...
[17:56] <Scunizi> vignesh, np..
[17:57] <gravemind> K_Nine: if you click on an mp3, doesn't ubuntu offer to download the codecs for you now?
[17:57] <K_Nine> efren20:  Go to this site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[17:57] <rhsanborn> amenado, I think thirdy used the liveCD to boot the install on his HD
[17:57] <amenado> subsume->  what do you have in /etc/nsswitch.conf ? can you paste in pastebin?
[17:57] <flats> asc: which line would that be?  I'd like to try that
[17:57] <patrick__> hello all. im getting the following error message when trying to update using both apt-get and synaptic : Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/ie.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages (2)
[17:57] <thirdy> amenado, 1st I tried here but did not work, then I tried at liveCD, still no grub
[17:57] <subsume> amenado: on clients?
[17:58] <SHyTRiGGeR> hi all, please which paquage should i use to install an irc server ?
[17:58] <asc> flats: the 'kernel'. Should end with 'ro quiet splash' by default; just delete 'splash'
[17:58] <candyban_> K_Nine, I couldn't find anything indicating Ubuntu has remove alsa ... which would seem strange to me as it's the default sound architecture in 2.6 kernels
[17:58] <amenado> thirdy are you still in the liveCd?  look at your device.map   same partition where you have ubuntu installed, but directory   /boot/grub/
[17:58] <efren20> so what do i have to download
[17:58] <efren20> would just download itunes do it?
[17:58] <Montego> How do I find out what alsa version I have?
[17:58] <flats> asc: Unfortunately, i wouldn't even know what that file was or how to get to it?
[17:58] <gravemind> efren20: go to terminal and paste this    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:58] <amenado> subsume-> yes, and server too if possible, just one client, assuming they have all same configs
[17:59] <thirdy> rhsanborn, amenado, right now I did sudo apt-get remove grub, then install it again
[17:59] <asc> flats: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:59] <vignesh> i am a very much newbie to linux.. i am interested in maths.. i want to develop the existing calculator in ubuntu to perform more complex tasks... where do i get the source code of it.??
[17:59] <Scunizi> vignesh, check out man apt-get for info.. man apt doesn't have anything.
[17:59] <flats> WhatOh Grub
[17:59] <flats> Oh Grub... OK
[17:59] <amenado> thirdy->  from a liveCD you issued that?
[17:59] <vignesh> Scunizi, yup.. am chekin out ..
[17:59] <Starnestommy> SHyTRiGGeR: ircd-hybrid, ircd-ircu, oftc-hybrid, or dancer-ircd
[17:59] <efren20> gravemind:done now wat
[17:59] <gravemind> press enter
[17:59] <K_Nine> SHyTRiGGeR:  Try this page http://howtoforge.com/linux_irc_server_anope_services
[17:59] <Scunizi> vignesh, as for your calculator.. did you know the one with ubuntu has a mode selection from basic to financial and scientific?
[17:59] <adaptr> Starnestommy: what about ngircd ?
[17:59] <Starnestommy> SHyTRiGGeR: there are several others that aren't in the repositories
[18:00] <amenado> vignesh  the bc  is polish stack calculator, look for bc code
[18:00] <thirdy> amenado, (hd0)	/dev/hda
[18:00] <thirdy> (hd1)	/dev/hdb
[18:00] <SHyTRiGGeR> Starnestommy> thanks i was not sur i could use hybrid
[18:00] <SHyTRiGGeR> K_Nine> thanks ;)
[18:00] <vignesh> Scunizi, ya i do.. i still wanna add some more to it..
[18:00] <efren20> yea allreayd load said something about it will take space in pc etc.. and put y enter
[18:00] <thirdy> amenado, I'm not at liveCD
[18:00] <gravemind> efren20: after that installs, you should be able to play mp3s in just about any player
[18:00] <patrick__> hello all. im getting the following error message when trying to update using both apt-get and synaptic : Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/ie.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages (2). any ideas??
[18:00] <vignesh> amenado,  i dont get u.. can u plz tel in detail..?
[18:00] <flats> asc: Should I leave the vga=normal or remove it?
[18:00] <loser2012> anyone using ubuntu ultimate edition?
[18:00] <efren20> thanks alot
[18:00] <rhsanborn> thirdy, this is a brand new install, right/
[18:00] <rhsanborn> ?
[18:01] <efren20> can you show me how to download itunes?
[18:01] <gravemind> efren20: no problem :)
[18:01] <amenado> thirdy->  oh, how did you get into that mode ie issuing grub when you said at boot you were already getting an NTLDR error?
[18:01] <thirdy> rhsanborn, yeah
[18:01] <unenough> what's a good video editor in ubuntu?
[18:01] <rhsanborn> thirdy, did you want to keep WinXp on the system?
[18:01] <asc> flats: Dunno. I've never included such a line.
[18:01] <efren20> gravemind:can you show me how to download itunes
[18:01] <Scunizi> vignesh, I think it's gcalctool  http://calctool.sourceforge.net/
[18:01] <gravemind> efren20: there's no itunes for ubuntu, but you can use rhythmbox
[18:01] <asc> loser: all of us
[18:01] <amenado> vignesh  man bc, its the binary calculator or bash calculator?  man bc
[18:01] <gravemind> efren20: people like amarok as well
[18:01] <flats> hehe np asc
[18:01] <vignesh> Scunizi, ya ok ill see..
[18:01] <thirdy> amenado, first I loaded the ubuntu liveCD then I selected boot from HD
[18:02] <asc> unenough: It doesn't come with the system, but you might want to look into cinerella
[18:02] <Scunizi> vignesh, you should be able to get the source from thee.
[18:02] <Scunizi> *there
[18:02] <patrick__> hello all. im getting the following error message when trying to update using both apt-get and synaptic : Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/ie.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages (2). any ideas??
[18:02] <subsume> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m6b60546c
[18:02] <asc> hm, that's spelled wrong
[18:02] <amenado> thirdy ahh okay, so it booted really from hd with just an assistance from livecd..i got you
[18:02] <thirdy> rhsanborn, yeah
[18:02] <nemesis256> So I'm trying to boot up Ubuntu for the first time on a Mac Pro. I got to the initial menu, and selected the first option to install or boot Ubuntu. After that, I got to the loading screen with the orange bar. After a short while, the bar duplicated itself several times on the screen. After that probably about 5 screens followed with strange colors and patterns. The last one was white with some pink/red coloring. At this point th
[18:02] <nemesis256> e CD stopped spinning, so I just held down the power button to turn off.
[18:02] <gravemind> patrick__: the only thing I can think of is try to fix any broken packages in synaptic
[18:02] <asc> *cinelerra
[18:02] <nemesis256> What could be the problem? The graphics card in my Mac Pro is a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT. I am using the 32 bit version of Ubuntu. Would the 64 bit make any difference?
[18:02] <camserver_> does ubuntu automatically recognize and reconfigure new pci cards/
[18:02] <Montego> How do I find out what alsa driver version I have?
[18:03] <patrick__> @gravmmind: how would i do that?
[18:03] <NemesisD> 2 questions, first, is it possible to make a particular flash drive mount to a specific mount point every time it's plugged in, and second, is it possible to install wine apps to an external drive?
[18:03] <subsume> amenado: keep in mind i unknowingly set up ldap on the server and some clients
[18:03] <amenado> thirdy now you look at /boot/grub/device.map  whats the contents? make sure it matches what you did for root and setup
[18:03] <gravemind> patrick__: it's in one of the menus, but I don't know if it will work
[18:03] <subsume> amenado: i gave you the nsswitch of a client i haven't toucehd
[18:03] <subsume> touched
[18:03] <efren20> gravemind:then how will i sync my ipod
[18:03] <eFfeM> hi for me sound recorder is not working, saw on the forum this is a common issue; is there a fix known? this is with 7.10
[18:04] <gravemind> !ipod
[18:04] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[18:04] <thirdy> amenado, (hd0)	/dev/hda
[18:04] <thirdy> (hd1)	/dev/hdb
[18:04] <gravemind> efren20: visit that link
[18:04] <efren20> thsanks]
[18:04] <gravemind> patrick__: it's in the "edit" menu of synaptic
[18:04] <amenado> subsume-> my clue is netgroup is nis, so somehow NIS support is on your network
[18:04] <saltera> Is there a suitable alternative to the Napster subscription service (uk)?
[18:05] <subsume> amenado: how might it work?
[18:05] <neutrino4> Hi everybody! Could someone explain to me, why the fisrt sector of the first patition on the disk is 63 and not the 2nd (1st after the MBR)?
[18:05] <thirdy> amenado, brb, I'll check if remove/installing grub will work
[18:05] <gravemind> I'm having trouble using the rhythmbox last.fm plugin - it says "handshake failed" and isn't submitting my scrobbled tracks to the server. any ideas?
[18:05] <efren20> gravemind:wich ne better banshee or amerok
[18:05] <amenado> thirdy no, dont remove anything yet
[18:06] <gravemind> efren20: amarok, or so I've heard
[18:06] <loser2012> mine is an old system amd athlon 700, nvidia riva tnt64, 768MB RAM, 8GB HDD,    can I run compiz fusion?
[18:06] <amenado> subsume->  NIS? its a centralized authorization system, i cant describe in few sentences. you may have to google for a tutorial on nis
[18:06] <K_Nine> ef
[18:06] <camserver_> does ubuntu automatically update the kernel for new pci cards?
[18:06] <K_Nine> efren20: I think Banshee is Gnome and Amarok is KDE.
 amenado, root(hd0,2) then setup(hd0)   match this with device.map
[18:07] <gravemind> efren20: but you can use either, it's your choice
[18:07] <efren20> ok how would i download that?
[18:07] <bluefoxx> ok, so i have a new burner, yet it refuses to burn a cd. keeps telling me "there was an error writing the disk. please try a lower speed" im trying to burn the xubuntu iso and im allready trying to burn it at 1x. wtfs the problem?can i burn it from command line?
[18:07] <efren20> how do i download banshee
[18:07] <K_Nine> efren20:  They are both in synaptic if you want to use the GUI.
[18:08] <efren20> so i search banshee
[18:08] <asc> that would probably be a good idea...
[18:08] <amenado> thirdy are you there?
[18:08] <bluefoxx> how do i burn a cd from command line?
[18:08] <efren20> two came out do i install both banshee and banshee-deep
[18:08] <K_Nine> bluefoxx: Try using KB3
[18:09] <efren20> bansheep dapp
[18:09] <ubuntuisloved> anyone use pdanet program with a phone?
[18:09] <ciruU> someone can tell me if the PORTAGE (used by gentoo)  can download dependencies or I have to down one for one? plz..
[18:09] <loser2012> can I run compiz fusion with  nvdia riva tnt64 graphic card?
[18:09] <asc> efren: just select banshee...
[18:09] <Creationist> Could someone please tell me why I can't add anything to my startup programs through "Sessions?"  When I add it, then log out and back in, the programs don't start and their entries are gone from Sessions.
[18:09] <vignesh> Scunizi, i got the source..ty
[18:09] <Scunizi> vignesh, np
[18:09] <amenado> bluefoxx-> i noticed that on my cheapo burner, slowest speed it can is 16x, would not throttle to 1x, no matter what i do
[18:09] <asc> efren: you can also make such determinations yourself by doing things like looking at their descriptions
[18:09] <efren20> k_nine: do i install both that came out one is banshee and other banshee daap
[18:09] <Starnestommy> ciruU: I'm pretty sure it does manage dependencies, but I think that #gentoo might be a better place to ask
[18:10] <bluefoxx> K_Nine: im just trying to burn the xubuntu iso, and i keep getting a disk error telling me to use a lower speed. i dont want to have to install anymore programs, much less more kde programs[i odnt use them ofton enough]
[18:10] <perro_lokos> someone  can tell me why ubuntu 7.10 freezes thanks   ????????????????????????????????
[18:10] <K_Nine> efren20:  Read the discription.
[18:10] <ciruU> ok... thanks! xD
[18:10] <thirdy> amenado, still no hope
[18:10] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi all! The lirc forum is dead.... anyone here who can help me to get mouse and keyboard emulation working? 'irw' outputs the buttons beeing pressed... but then what do I do?
[18:10] <patrick__> @gravemind: that didnt work
[18:10] <K_Nine> bluefoxx: KB3 works better. IMHO
[18:10] <amenado> thirdy your setup  setting is wrong
[18:11] <bluefoxx> amenado: burner is a brand new lg super multi with "securdisk"
[18:11] <efren20> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[18:11] <efren20> thats wat it gave me at the end installing plug ins to listen to mp3 songs
[18:11] <bluefoxx> isnt there a built in command to write a disk from a terminal emu?
[18:11] <Piddy> Hi. Is there a way for me to use both Windows XP and Kubuntu at a same time?
[18:11] <amenado> bluefoxx it dont matter, they seem to design these things for windows only, and everything fast..
[18:12] <amenado> bluefoxx-> google for cdrecord and or wodim
[18:12] <bluefoxx> or do i *have* to have a 40 pin 80 wire cable in there. cause i dont have any.
[18:12] <K_Nine> Piddy Try using VMware server.
[18:12] <efren20> thats wat it gave me at the end installing plug ins to listen to mp3 songsSub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[18:12] <__Neo__> Hello, I'm currently a debian etch user... is there a variant of ubuntu that utilizes debian repositories (or a mirror of) instead of ubuntu ones?
[18:12] <lastelement0> hey all, i just applied an emerald theme. and when i type emerald --replace in the terminal it shows up. however when i click the menu bars for all my windows go away
[18:12] <amenado> thirdy lets do this again..issue  sudo grub
[18:12] <bluefoxx> amenado: cant google ATM....net is screwy and everything takes hours to load...
[18:12] <amenado> thirdy are you following me?
[18:12] <gravemind> patrick__: i don't know what to do -- I guess keep asking around here in the channel and see if someone else knows how to fix synaptic problems
[18:12] <thirdy> amenado, is there any alternative for grub?
[18:12] <patrick__> anyone program in python here? im looking to get started and i am wondering whats the best ide?
[18:13] <amenado> bluefoxx-> then settle for man cdrecord or man wodim
[18:13] <Piddy> K_Nine: Will I be able to choose OS when I start the PC or something?
[18:13] <bluefoxx> thirdy: lilo
[18:13] <thirdy> amenado, oh sorry ok
[18:13] <subsume> patrick__: ever use VIM?
[18:13] <bluefoxx> amenado: kk
[18:13] <amenado> thirdy lilo, yes,
[18:13] <patrick__> @gravemind: ok, will do. thanks for the help.
[18:13] <perro_lokos> someone  can tell me why ubuntu 7.10 freezes thanks   ????????????????????????????????:-(
[18:13] <amenado> thirdy lets do this again..issue  sudo grub
[18:13] <K_Nine> Piddy: You can have both open and choose. VMware server is now free.
[18:13] <thirdy> amenado, ok I'm at grub now
[18:13] <patrick__> @subsume: not extensively. i know the basic controlls
[18:13] <Starnestommy> perro_lokos: there could be many reasons why it freezes.
[18:13] <efren20> gravemind: i was installing what you told me to for it to play the mp3 files in any media player look what it gave me at the end dpkg> status database area is locked by another process
[18:13] <efren20> E> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[18:13] <amenado> thirdy->  find /boot/grub/menu.lst  and what is the response?
[18:14] <subsume> patrick__: welp, that's what i use
[18:14] <Fleming> can anyone help me with WINE please?
[18:14] <alesan^> hi, how do In install the java plugin for firefox?
[18:14] <alesan^> !java
[18:14] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[18:14] <[chr0n0s]> is there any application, which allows me to create chm files ?
[18:14] <thirdy> amenado, (hd0,2)
[18:14] <amenado> thirdy do you get anything else like  Filesystem is ext2fs, partition type is 0x83
[18:15] <thirdy> amenado, no
[18:15] <patrick__> @subsume: ok, ill give it a chance so
[18:15] <K_Nine> [chr0n0s]:  Try xchm.
[18:15] <[chr0n0s]> K_Nine, that is a reader.. rite?
[18:15] <efren20> gravemind: i was installing what you told me to for it to play the mp3 files in any media player look what it gave me at the end dpkg> status database area is locked by another processdpkg> status database area is locked by another process
[18:15] <efren20> E> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[18:15] <Creationist> Could someone please tell me why I can't add anything to my startup programs through "Sessions?"  When I add it, then log out and back in, the programs don't start and their entries are gone from Sessions.
[18:15] <thirdy> amenado, just plain (hd0,2) response
[18:15] <mnereson> Hi. I have ubuntu with apache2 and php5, I get just a white screen (of death) on php pages. any idea where I can find some type of log for php on ubunute? ##php hasn't helped at all : \
[18:15] <amenado> thirdy oh okay, that on the next one... now type     root (hd0,2)
[18:16] <gravemind> efren20: you can't be running two package managers at once, that's probably what's happening
[18:16] <thirdy> amenado, ok
[18:16] <__Neo__> Hello I'm a debian user currently, I notice distro's like DreamLinux use the debian repositories (stable and testing)... is there a variant of Ubuntu that uses these as well as opposed to Ubuntu repositories?
[18:16] <amenado> thirdy now do you get  like  Filesystem is ext2fs, partition type is 0x83
[18:16] <gravemind> efren20: if you're using the terminal, make sure you have closed synaptic
[18:16] <thirdy> amenado, no nothing
[18:17] <patrick__> running xfce on a n eeePC and im looking for a podcast catcher
[18:17] <amenado> thirdy, that kind of indicate your boot is not in hd0,2
[18:17] <gravemind> efren20: and make sure any other instances of apt are done working
[18:17] <amenado> thirdy it should have responded with that if it was there
[18:17] <efren20> yea everythings closed
[18:17] <efren20> how do i reset it
[18:17] <efren20> ?
[18:17] <gravemind> patrick__: heard of podracer?
[18:18] <rkm_> help - I can't get to my desktop. It says 'There was an error starting the GNOME Setting Daemon.' The last error message was: Process /usr/lib/gnome-control/center/gnome-settings/daemon received signal 11
[18:18] <gravemind> efren20: try logging out and back it
[18:18] <amenado> thirdy on another terminal ,, type sudo mount and pastebin it please
[18:18] <gravemind> that works a lot
[18:18] <ciruU> \\quit
[18:18] <efren20> i leave the terminal open log out and bak in??
[18:18] <ut2004player> hello
[18:18] <patrick__> @gravemind: never
[18:18] <LoLLo> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs8sYe4uqM
[18:18] <gravemind> efren20: wait, just see if it works now
[18:19] <gravemind> patrick__: it's a commandline program that downloads podcasts for you
[18:19] <thirdy> !pastebin
[18:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[18:19] <efren20> what do i type in the terminal
[18:19] <efren20> gravemind:what do i type in the terminal
[18:19] <gravemind> efren20: whatever didn't work before
[18:19] <patrick__> @gravemind: thats cool. its light weight so
[18:19] <ut2004player> can anyone tell me the difference between KDE and GNOME?
[18:20] <gravemind> efren20: tell me what you try, and how it works
[18:20] <amenado> ut2004player-> too many words to describe, can you try googling for it please
[18:20] <K_Nine> ut2004player:  KDE is feature rich and slower and Gnome is simpler and faster.
[18:20] <ut2004player> ah ok thanks
[18:20] <gravemind> K_Nine: :) so true
[18:20] <thirdy> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57971/
[18:20] <alesan^> K_Nine: that is only 1st approxximation
[18:20] <gravemind> I'm having trouble using the rhythmbox last.fm plugin - it says "handshake failed" and isn't submitting my scrobbled tracks to the server. any ideas?
[18:20] <bazhang> ut2004player: not so! but offtopic here ;]
[18:21] <gravemind> hahaha
[18:21] <alesan^> K_Nine: the more apps you load on KDE the speed and memory usage remains the same
[18:21] <ut2004player> i am trying to install linux on a friend computer but not sure which version/distro is ubuntu the best?
[18:21] <efren20> gravemind:i havent tried nothing what should i try
[18:21] <Amaranth> ut2004player: you want Ubuntu
[18:21] <alesan^> while gnome's grow substantially
[18:21] <gravemind> efren20: you are trying to install banshee?
[18:21] <K_Nine> alesan^: I was giving the Cliff Notes answer.
[18:21] <Amaranth> ut2004player: The original Ubuntu :)
[18:21] <ut2004player> ok thanks :)
[18:21] <amenado> thirdy can you kindly append the results of  fdisk -l please on that pastebin
[18:21] <alesan^> but stop wm wars :)
[18:21] <Amaranth> GNOME vs KDE discussion goes to #ubuntu-offtopic, if even there
[18:21] <gravemind> got it
[18:21] <Amaranth> alesan^: DE wars, actually
[18:22] <Amaranth> alesan^: WM wars is openbox vs fluxbox
[18:22] <ut2004player> also can you boot ubuntu by cd or do you have to install it for it to work?
[18:22] <gravemind> ut2004player: it's a live cd, you can boot from it
[18:22] <ut2004player> ok thanks...:)...waiting for download to finish
[18:22] <Pirate_Hunter> hmm kde still think its useless so many packages that are not needed
[18:22] <rkm_> can anyone help me with my gnome-settings-daemon segmentation fault
[18:23] <edevaldo> Caros amigos, estou configurando uma impressora hp 1020 e não estou conseguindo, alguem sabe como proceder
[18:23] <efren20> did instal sais import music to banshee and froze
[18:23] <K_Nine> ut2004player: I would try booting from Linux Mint because it has the codecs and proprietary drivers on the CD. You might get a better experience.
[18:23] <amenado> !es | edevaldo
[18:23] <ubotu> edevaldo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:23] <bazhang> portuguese edevaldo?
[18:23] <holicowww> how do i do WDE under ubuntu?
[18:23] <edevaldo> yes portuguese
[18:23] <sinbox> !pt | edevaldo
[18:23] <ubotu> edevaldo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:23] <thirdy> amenado, ok done
[18:24] <bazhang> edevaldo:  /j #ubuntu-br
[18:24] <amenado> thirdy paste it
[18:24] <gravemind> efren20: try logging out, logging back in and trying again
[18:24] <narothepharoh> how do i make a divx movie that will play on my dvd player?
[18:24] <thirdy> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57972/
[18:24] <gravemind> narothepharoh: out of what?
[18:24] <delmar> salut
[18:24] <delmar> bonsoir
[18:24] <bazhang> hello delmar
[18:24] <delmar> j'ai un pb avec mon imprimante
[18:24] <K_Nine> narothepharoh: Get a DVD player that will play computer generated DVD's.
[18:24] <rkm_> can anyone see what i type?
[18:24] <delmar> j'arrive pas a imprimé
[18:24] <prasanna> hey guys, loving ubuntu, fucken amazing cant believe i've been on windows for that long :D
[18:24] <bazhang> delmar /j #ubuntu-fr
[18:24] <narothepharoh> gravemind:an iso image or .avi
[18:25] <prasanna> got an issue though, when i boot up and auto logins, it continues to ask me for key
[18:25] <delmar> ?
[18:25] <bazhang> rkm_: yes ;]
[18:25] <delmar> pouvez vous m'aider
[18:25] <prasanna> keymanager, is there away i can disable this? i assume its related to my wifi connection?
[18:25] <delmar> ?
[18:25] <savage_machine> my wireless connection is always switching off with ralink driver (rt61). any help?
[18:25] <jussi01> !fr
[18:25] <gravemind> narothepharoh: I use devede to author dvds, I'm not sure if that's what you're trying to do though
[18:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:25] <rkm_> bazhang: thanx
[18:25]  * ut2004player @K_9 what is Linux Mint?
[18:25] <bazhang> no worries rkm_ ;]
[18:25] <PriceChild> !mint | ut2004player
[18:25] <amenado> thirdy  you already have type setup (hd0,2)   yes?
[18:25] <ubotu> ut2004player: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[18:25] <K_Nine> ut2004player:
[18:25] <runemaste644> what is the command to start vino-server?
[18:26] <gravemind> narothepharoh: the most updated version of devede is here http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[18:26] <rkm_> i guess noone can help with gnome-settings-daemon segmentation fault
[18:26] <K_Nine> ut2004player:  It is Ubuntu with the drivers and codecs on the CD.
[18:26] <imaginator> hi, I'm trying to figure out how to capture audio that is being played by an ALSA-compatible device, and I'm having a lot of difficulty understanding amixer, and the proper way of using arecord.
[18:26] <PriceChild> K_Nine: It is not Ubuntu.
[18:26] <runemaste644> ive tried everything but cant start it
[18:26] <imaginator> how can I use arecord to record the audio that is currently playing?
[18:26] <luisgmarine> Hello, I'm having a bit of a problem.  Everytime I reboot my computer something in my system chagnes.  First it was the lost of sound, and now my screen resolution has changed.  I see no options whatsoever to change it back to 1400x900, any clues?
[18:26] <ut2004player> ah ok
[18:27] <narothepharoh> gravemind: I have devede i have converted my avi to iso burned to disc and it wont play on my home dvd player
[18:27] <thirdy> amenado, I did before, but not yet from what we started
[18:27] <mnereson> with php/apache white screen, how can I get the error output to the screen??
[18:27] <K_Nine> PriceChild: It's close enough. He just wants to try linux.
[18:27] <PriceChild> K_Nine: It is based on Ubuntu, it is not Ubuntu.
[18:27] <K_Nine> PriceChild: From a CD.
[18:27] <bazhang> #linuxmint then
[18:27] <ut2004player> also i was wondering things such as bluetooth keyboard and printer will they work under ubuntu?
[18:27] <amenado> thirdy->  okay you can do it now.. note  setup (hd0,2)  and tell me what responses you get after
[18:27] <yeltsinator> Hi, I've got an HP P1505 and when I use the fooxqx driver to manually create and xqx file and then cp it to /dev/usb/lp0 the printer works, but in cups it doesn't. I have the uri set to usb://dev/usb/lp0 and I can't think of anything else that could be wrong..
[18:28] <runemaste644> Is there even a command for vino server?
[18:28] <gravemind> narothepharoh: that sounds like a problem with your dvd player then -- because if you choose the "dvd" setting, it pretty much ensures it will work
[18:28] <asc> runemaster: have you tried using the manual?
[18:28] <rkm_> man this is frustrating...three installs later
[18:28] <runemaste644> for what
[18:28] <gravemind> narothepharoh: does the dvd play like a normal dvd when you put it in another computer?
[18:28] <ut2004player> have a canon i350 printer and microsoft wireless multemedia keyboard 1.1?
[18:28] <asc> runemaster: vino_server, apparently
[18:28] <narothepharoh> I know it works in other dvd players but mine says it will play divx
[18:28] <nemesis2> So I'm trying to boot up Ubuntu for the first time on a Mac Pro. I got to the initial menu, and selected the first option to install or boot Ubuntu. After that, I got to the loading screen with the orange bar. After a short while, the bar duplicated itself several times on the screen. After that probably about 5 screens followed with strange colors and patterns. The last one was white with some pink/red coloring. At this point th
[18:28] <nemesis2> e CD stopped spinning, so I just held down the power button to turn off.
[18:29] <nemesis2> What could be the problem? The graphics card in my Mac Pro is a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT. I am using the 32 bit version of Ubuntu. Would the 64 bit make any difference?
[18:29] <runemaste644> so its vino_server and not vino-server?
[18:29] <delmar> quelqu'un parle francais?
[18:29] <delmar> speak french?
[18:29] <Flannel> !fr | delmar
[18:29] <ubotu> delmar: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:29] <bazhang> delmar type /j #ubuntu-fr
[18:30] <thirdy> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57973/
[18:30] <asc> runemaster: I have no idea, I've never used it. But everything should have directions somewhere.
[18:30] <narothepharoh> gravemind: it works in other dvd players and other computers im just trying to figure out how to convert to divx because my player says it will play that
[18:30] <runemaste644> vino-server is a vnc server for gnome
[18:30] <OpaH> is there a separate channel for IPv6 questions?
[18:30] <delmar> merci
[18:30] <ut2004player> what is gentoo?
[18:30] <runemaste644> but i want to know how to run it in xfce
[18:30] <bazhang> de rien ;]
[18:30] <Starnestommy> ut2004player: another linux distribution
[18:30] <luisgmarine> Can someone help me add the proper resolution to my computer?  I have a 1400x900 but its only going up to 1024x768
[18:30] <amenado> thirdy that a good result.. now quit grub
[18:31] <gravemind> narothepharoh: oh, alright that makes sense
[18:31] <ut2004player> i know that star but i mean what are the differences when compared to linux? =/
[18:31] <ut2004player> Linux ubuntu*
[18:31] <Starnestommy> ut2004player: it is linux
[18:31] <asc> rune: Er, okay. How do you normally start it?
[18:31] <K_Nine> ut2004player: Gentoo is a Linux Distro that you basically build piece by piece. Try going to Distrowatch.com and link on it.
[18:31] <gravemind> narothepharoh: i don't know how to do it though
[18:31] <thirdy> amenado, ok
[18:31] <amenado> thirdy again confirm the contents of /boot/grub/device.map    hd0,2 ?
[18:31] <bazhang> ut2004player: that is kind of offtopic here
[18:31] <narothepharoh> ok
[18:31] <runemaste644> i login to gnome
[18:31] <ut2004player> sory...
[18:31] <Starnestommy> ut2004player: the package menagement system is one of the biggest ones
[18:31] <ut2004player> just wondering
[18:31] <runemaste644> it automatically starts
[18:31] <donato> ciao
[18:31] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small, it seems the padding/spacing is missing
[18:31] <bob__> Hi hi
[18:31] <bazhang> hello donato
[18:32] <donato> cia
[18:32] <asc> rune: Did you set this up at any point?
[18:32] <luisgmarine> hello?
[18:32] <amenado> thirdy again confirm the contents of /boot/grub/device.map    hd0,2 ?
[18:32] <runemaste644> no
[18:32] <bazhang> donato italian? /j #ubuntu-it ;]
[18:32] <runemaste644> it was set up when it was installed
[18:32] <rkm_> help - I can't get to my desktop. It says 'There was an error starting the GNOME Setting Daemon.' The last error message was: Process /usr/lib/gnome-control/center/gnome-settings/daemon received signal 11
[18:32] <runemaste644> default setting
[18:32] <donato> SI
[18:33] <ut2004player> programs that come preinstalled with ubuntu are...?
[18:33] <thirdy> amenado, (hd0)	/dev/hda
[18:33] <thirdy> (hd1)	/dev/hdb
[18:34] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training ut2004player this link might help ;]
[18:34] <thirdy> amenado, that's all there is in device.map
[18:34] <gravemind> hey guys -- I'm having trouble using the rhythmbox last.fm plugin - it says "handshake failed" and isn't submitting my scrobbled tracks to the server. any ideas?
[18:34] <amenado> thirdy okay, now you can reboot
[18:34] <graft> is there any way i can get my DVD drive to stop spinning whenever I insert a disc into it? I'm not trying to do anything with the drive, i just want it to stop rotating
[18:34] <thirdy> amenado, ok
[18:34] <amenado> thirdy oops wait
[18:34] <ut2004player> ah ok thanks baz
[18:34] <Lartza_> phpmyadmin isnt working with apache
[18:35] <bazhang> no worries ;]
[18:35] <asc> rune: sounds like a security issue to me, but okay. I'll look through the gnome services...
[18:35] <amenado> thirdy do you want to check if you can get access to the internet now from your ubuntu?
[18:35] <runemaste644> its startup services
[18:35] <Barmin> Quick question: how do I boot into text mode, from Grub?
[18:35] <runemaste644> autostarted apps*
[18:35] <DASPRiD> hm, how do i replace the current ssh server, while i'm connected via ssh?
[18:36] <amenado> DASPRiD-> i dont believe you can, but you can restart it
[18:36] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small, it seems the padding/spacing is missing
[18:36] <DASPRiD> amenado, but i have to :)
[18:36] <asc> yeah, this would probably be easier if I ever used gnome
[18:36] <differentreality> hi, when using unrar is there some option with which i can set a default password for all the extractions that will occur from now on ? i dont seem to find anything relevant in man :/
[18:37] <amenado> DASPRiD-> you can try, but i dont believe it will work
[18:37] <Rgem> I'm searching for a good tool to make .ico files, suggestions?
[18:37] <DASPRiD> amenado, i have created patched version of the ssh server
[18:37] <DASPRiD> now i need to replace the current running one with the patched one
[18:37] <DASPRiD> but how to do it?
[18:37] <mnereson> what is the mostest bestest way to uninstall php from server?
[18:37] <Lartza_> i was wrong, apache isn't working
[18:37] <amenado> DASPRiD-> kill the current one, apply the patch and restart
[18:37] <Barmin> Anyone knows about Grub options at boot?
[18:37] <DASPRiD> amenado, if i kill the current one, i'm disconnected
[18:37] <thirdy> amenado, still the same
[18:38] <Ubuntuisbest101> hi
[18:38] <amenado> DASPRiD-> you can try to do it from a script, and hopefully the patch works
[18:38] <Rgem> I'm searching for a tool to make .ico files
[18:38] <thirdy> amenado, I'll try installing lilo
[18:38] <Silviana> hi...
[18:38] <amenado> thirdy-> same ? no what again?
[18:38] <DASPRiD> amenado, hmmm
[18:38] <DASPRiD> could work
[18:38] <Lartza_> how do i change ports that apache listens?
[18:38] <Silviana> i ahve a problem with apt
[18:38] <DASPRiD> if not i've got a problem ^^
[18:38] <amenado> DASPRiD-> yep, good luck
[18:38] <asc> rune: I see a program called vino-session...
[18:38] <Rgem> Lartza_: you can change port forwarding at router
[18:39] <Silviana> can anyboody help me with this->http://paste.debian.net/50268?
[18:39] <thirdy> amenado, still no grub
[18:39] <Lartza_> how do i change ports that APACHE LISTENS?
[18:39] <mooboo1> so how do i add a shortcut on my desktop to a game? whenever i do, the game complains that it cant find the other files it need, it only works to make shortcuts to single-file-programs such as gcalc and gedit
[18:39] <Lartza_> there is some file
[18:39] <runemaste644> is vino-session the command?
[18:39] <thirdy> amenado, and the NTLDR error is there
[18:39] <asc> rune: It looks like it should be, but I can't actually test it
[18:39] <amenado> thirdy what are you getting if any at all?
[18:39] <DASPRiD> ty ^^
[18:39] <Silviana> it is an apt error. It seens to be corrupt
[18:39] <Barmin> Hi, anyone can help me, please?
[18:39] <BigCanOfTuna> I'm trying to use rsync to copy my development scripts to a development Ubuntu box...I need to copy a bunch of scrpts that will eventually end up in /* ...however, I must have my rsynd.conf (http://pastebin.ca/924794) misconfigured, because it simply creates a directory in my home and puts the files there...can anyone tell me what I have to do to make the scripts copy to the appropriate...
[18:39] <BigCanOfTuna> ...location under / ?
[18:40] <Rgem> Lartza_: then I don't know how, I use mongrel, and Ruby On Rails
[18:40] <runemaste644> well is there a decent vnc server for xfce
[18:40] <Rgem> I'm searching for tool to create .ico files
[18:40] <Rgem> for websites
[18:40] <efren20> wats a good program to download music in for ubuntu gnome limewire?
[18:40] <amenado> thirdy-> can you use your liveCD again and point to boot from hd, then pastebin your  /boot/grub/menu.lst please
[18:40] <thirdy> amenado, nothing just, "NTLDR is missing" "Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart"
[18:40] <Silviana> can anybody help me with a apt error? -> http://paste.debian.net/50268
[18:41] <riddle> Rgem: the gimp?
[18:41] <iNeo> Silviana: what error
[18:41] <Flare183> !gimp | riddle
[18:41] <Rgem> riddle: can it save as .ico?
[18:41] <ubotu> riddle: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[18:41] <Silviana> iNeo: http://paste.debian.net/50268
[18:41] <kranny> I 've been trying to install w32 codecs on my Ubuntu 7.10
[18:41] <riddle> Flare183: i'm familiar with the gimp, but thank you.
[18:41] <efren20> wats a good program to download music in for ubuntu gnome limewire?
[18:41] <kranny> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:41] <kranny> w32codecs: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable
[18:41] <kranny> i get the above error
[18:41] <riddle> !repeat | efren20
[18:41] <ubotu> efren20: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:41] <Flare183> riddle: ok just making sure
[18:41] <Rgem> Flare183, I know gimp......
[18:41] <amenado> thirdy btw, you are sure your bios is set to boot from hda not hdb ?
[18:41] <asc> rune: It looks like you should just be able to run vino-session. Actually, it looks like it should start when you start xfce
[18:42] <thirdy> amenado, that's what I did to enter ubuntu
[18:42] <graft> argh.. so, anyone know a way i can make my DVD drive stop spinning?
[18:42] <DASPRiD> amenado, seems like it worked
[18:42] <Flare183> Rgem: yeah I love it
[18:42] <riddle> but to answer your question, there's frostwire.  not the most spectacular piece of software ever (relies on java) but it's not terrible
[18:42] <Silviana> iNeo: i can not install any package:
[18:42] <Silviana> Desinstalando fast-user-switch-applet ...
[18:42] <Silviana> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:42] <amenado> DASPRiD-> congrats..
[18:42] <kranny> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:42] <kranny> w32codecs: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable
[18:42] <iNeo> Silviana: sorry but not my language
[18:42] <Rgem> Flare183, I wish gimp had blending options like photoshop
[18:42] <kranny> i get the above error
[18:42] <prasanna> when i boot up, up pops a keyring, is there away i can disable this? i assume its related to my wifi connection?
[18:42] <Flare183> Rgem: it does, with the Photoshop plugins
[18:42] <riddle> Rgem: blending and adjustment layers are all it needs to be a serious competitor
[18:42] <thirdy> amenado, my first boot device is CDROM then Harddisk
[18:42] <Flare183> Rgem: plugins that work with gimp
[18:42] <Rgem> Flare183, I already tried gimpshop, but it doesn't change relaly
[18:43] <asc> rune: since under the xfce config window->sessions and startup->advanced 'launch gnome services on startup' is checked
[18:43] <thirdy> amenado, brb I'll make sure
[18:43] <Flare183> Rgem: i haven't really
[18:43] <Rgem> Flare183, where do i get it?
[18:43] <amenado> thirdy-> which hard disk?  you have two remember?
[18:43] <Flare183> Rgem: one sec let me get the link for you
[18:43] <Barmin> Help! Trying to boot in text mode!
[18:43] <bazhang> !info gimp
[18:43] <ubotu> gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu0.7.10.1 (gutsy), package size 3805 kB, installed size 10488 kB
[18:43] <Rgem> what's the default size of web .ico files?
[18:43] <amonkey> how can i get a log of whats happening as i connect to a wireless network? my i can't connect to my router and i want to know where its messing up.
[18:43] <Lartza_> how do i get apache work?
[18:43] <Dargor> Does anybody know why sometimes the i can't see the network in Ubuntu?
[18:44] <bluefoxx> ok, tried k3b, didnt work, heres pastbin>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57974/
[18:44] <RionM> help - I can't get to my desktop. It says 'There was an error starting the GNOME Setting Daemon.' The last error message was: Process /usr/lib/gnome-control/center/gnome-settings/daemon received signal 11
[18:44] <Silviana> iNeo: try this: http://paste.debian.net/50273
[18:44] <riddle> Rgem: 16x16 or 32x32 i believe
[18:44] <PriceChild> Lartza_: sudo apt-get install apache2
[18:44] <asc> barmin: any particular reason? and do want to do it every time?
[18:44] <Flare183> Rgem: http://www.techzilo.com/gimp-plugins/
[18:44] <Lartza_> its intalled but doesnt work
[18:44] <RionM> i'm running in failsafe terminal mode right now and can open apps like firefox, xchat, etc
[18:44] <amenado> amonkey  sudo tail -f /var/log/messages then try to associate your wifi to an AP
[18:44] <PriceChild> Lartza_: what did you do to break it?
[18:44] <efren20> wats a good program to download music in for ubuntu gnome limewire?
[18:44] <Starnestommy> Lartza_: what about it doesn't work?
[18:44] <riddle> efren20: i already answered your question.
[18:45] <efren20> ?
[18:45] <efren20> gyou did.?
[18:45] <Lartza_> can't establish a connection to the server at localhost
[18:45] <efren20> repeat please
[18:45] <bazhang> !piracy | efren20
[18:45] <riddle> efren20: frostwire
[18:45] <ubotu> efren20: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[18:45] <amonkey> amenado, perfect, thanks
[18:45] <riddle> there are legal uses!  *snicker, chuckle*
[18:45] <Barmin> asc: no, just now. Xserver doesn't start, because of gpu issue
[18:45] <Dargor> Does anybody know why sometimes the i can't see the network in Ubuntu?
[18:45] <Silviana> iNeo: did you see it??
[18:45] <Lartza_> solved
[18:45] <runemaste644> in config editor i found /desktop/gnome/remote_access
[18:46] <Lartza_> i was previously configured apache to listen port 8000 :D
[18:46] <efren20> were can i get that link me please or cmd
[18:46] <Barmin> asc: I've just installed Ubuntu, and have a ATI Mobility x1400, unsupported
[18:46] <napsy_> Hello. What's the name of another panel that is simular to avant-window-navigator?
[18:46] <asc> barmin: Okay. When it finishes starting, hit control-alt-F1
[18:46] <efren20> riddle:were can i get that link me please or cmd
[18:46] <Rgem> Flare183, that are all plugins, but not really 'blending' options which I'm looking for. Basic things like shadow glow and that stuff
[18:46] <Barmin> I tried it. But after selecting the Ubuntu option at Grub, it said "loading..." and then went black forever.
[18:47] <riddle> efren20: any more than i've already said makes me guilty of aiding and abetting copyright infringement.
[18:47] <Barmin> no change qhen I pressed ctrl+alt+F1, F2, F3, etc.
[18:47] <Flare183> Rgem: yeah I don't know where you could find them at
[18:47] <subsume> Through what means does NIS update /etc/passwd files on client machines?
[18:47] <efren20> oh sorry google would be the answer correct
[18:47] <Silviana> http://paste.debian.net/50273
[18:47] <Silviana> anybosy can help me??
[18:47] <Lartza_> how do i get webmin work??? :D
[18:47] <Silviana> with an apt-get error??
[18:48] <Flare183> Barmin: try pressing alt+f4 when you get the loading or a black screen
[18:48] <Dargor> Does anybody know why i can't see the network in Ubuntu?
[18:48] <bluefoxx> ok, i think it may be the damn useless tape drive, im going to reboot and try again. ill be back.
[18:48] <asc> barmin: When grub starts, edit the boot commands (instructions are at the bottom of the grub screen) and remove the word 'splash' from the 'kernel' line.
[18:48] <Lartza_> solved: had to do dpkg-reconfigure
[18:48] <Flare183> Dargor: what type of network
[18:48] <Flare183> ?
[18:48] <Barmin> Flare183: What does it do?
[18:48] <Barmin> asc: Ok, gonna try that.
[18:48] <Dargor> Flarel83 : local network only 3 computers and a router
[18:49] <Flare183> Barmin: It closes grub and forces it do to what you told it to do
[18:49] <efren20> i need help downloading java please
[18:49] <Lartza_> what is the easiest way to get people webhotel form my comp?
[18:49] <asc> barmin: (e to edit, select the line, press either enter or e, delete 'splash', press enter, press b)
[18:49] <Flare183> Dargor: no offensive but it's Flare183
[18:49] <Lartza_> ftp acces with quota, some cpanel like etc.
[18:49] <Flare183> Dargor: with Windows?
[18:49] <Dargor> Flare183: srry
[18:49] <Flare183> Dargor: no problem
[18:49] <Barmin> Flare183: Uh... Ok. Will try that too. Thanks!
[18:49] <Flare183> Barmin: ok
[18:49] <Barmin> asc: Ok, thankyou. Gonna reboot now.
[18:49] <Dargor> Flare183: 2 Windows and 1 Ubuntu
[18:49] <DIL> hey i want to migrate my email and bookmarks from my laptop to another machine where can i loate these files to export and then import on the new box
[18:50] <Flare183> Dargor: ok you need samba
[18:50] <Flare183> !samba | Dargor
[18:50] <ubotu> Dargor: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:50] <Dargor> Flare183: i have it
[18:50] <RionM> if anyone can help me my .xsessions_error file is pasted here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5168/
[18:50] <Flare183> Dargor: then configure it
[18:50] <efren20> i need help to downloading java can anyone help me
[18:50] <thirdy> amenado, it's ok now! sorry my mistake, I set my bios to hd1
[18:50] <Flare183> !java | efren20
[18:50] <ubotu> efren20: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[18:50] <Dargor> Flare183: i can't see the computers in the window of Network but if i put smb://(IP address) i can access to the PC
[18:51] <Flare183> Dargor: yeah me too
[18:51] <Flare183> Dargor: been having that problem forever
[18:51] <Flare183> Dargor: I can't get around it
[18:51] <Dargor> Flare183: so how can i fix it?
[18:51] <Dargor> Flare183: Other than creating Launchers....
[18:52] <holicowww> when auto installing grub to usb hdd i get an error ;(
[18:52] <Flare183> Dargor: I have one computer that is Ubuntu (using Wireless) and the other one is Windows (using a ethernet cable connected to a router) [both computers are connected to the same router]
[18:53] <Dargor> Flare183: ok i have 1 Pc with Windows Ethernet, 1 Pc Ubuntu Ethernet, and 1 laptop Windows Wireless
[18:53] <Lartza_> how do i easily get people webspace, ftp acces, quota, username, mysql databases, (cpanel like) from my comp?
[18:53] <mooboo1> wow, ubuntu is so dumb, i open firefox, copy a string, then when i close firefox, i cant paste it anymore
[18:53] <Flare183> Dargor: yeah kinda like my arrangement
[18:53] <neohaven> ok guys... I got Ubuntu 7.10, and i'm trying to install it into parallels. and it absolutely always crashes when trying to start the X server since it starts with this crazy resolution.
[18:53] <iDN> Hello hello!
[18:54] <neohaven> even if I select my screen resolution manually on boot, the liveCD goes to like 2500xsomething.
[18:54] <iDN> Does anyone has a clue how to merge two ntfs partitions?
[18:54] <thirdy_> amenado, sorry my pc hanged when I'm using firefox
[18:54] <Byan> neohaven: use the alternative disk
[18:54] <iDN> Especially when one of them is extended something, I don't know.
[18:54] <neohaven> there is only one, byan
[18:54] <Byan> it doesn't start x
[18:54] <Byan> .. only one?
[18:55] <neohaven> I only have one in the package sent.
[18:55] <Byan> neohaven: of ubuntu?
[18:55] <thirdy_> amenado, this already happend 3 times
[18:55] <Dargor> Flare183: so do you know how can i fix it?
[18:55] <neohaven> yes, byan
[18:55] <Lartza_> how do i easily get people webspace, ftp acces, quota, username, mysql databases, (cpanel like) from my comp?
[18:55] <amenado> thirdy_-> try the fourt time
[18:55] <Byan> neohaven: .. download the alternative?
[18:55] <trdcelica> hey, anyone available to help a big newb get sound on his toshiba laptop?
[18:55] <neohaven> I ordered those CDs from canonical because, exactly, I can't really practically download the thing.
[18:56] <Byan> neohaven: dial-up?
[18:56] <Flare183> Dargor: I don't know
[18:56] <neohaven> worse than that.
[18:56] <neohaven> weird sat uplink with a very low down limit.
[18:56] <Dargor> Flare183: ok thks man!!!!!
[18:56] <neohaven> but it's the only thing available where I am.
[18:56] <Flare183> Dargor: sorry really I don't know it is just stupid
[18:56] <RionM> is there anyway to repair gnome-settings-daemon????
[18:57] <Byan> worse o.O
[18:57] <Byan> whats your download speed?
[18:57] <Byan> http://kb.parallels.com/entry/32/568/ < try that?
[18:58] <neohaven> down? rather fast, we're talking about 7mbps.
[18:58] <neohaven> but can'T chug more than 2 gb in a month.
[18:58] <Byan> oh
[18:58] <Byan> I see
[18:58] <joh6nn> NetworkManger suddenly stopped recognizing wireless networks on me; anyone have any guesses?
[18:58] <Byan> that sucks >_>
[18:59] <Indiadev_Techi1> Byan: ma download speed 8mbps...its gr8 na buddy !!!
[18:59] <neohaven> Byan: you RULE (I still don't understand why I didn't go on the parallels site...)
[19:00] <Indiadev_Techi1> Byan: nd ma downloads goes lake zzzaappp !!!
[19:00] <Byan> Indiadev_Techi1: ...
[19:00] <Byan> shut up
[19:00] <Andy_4> ciao
[19:00] <Flare183> Don't fight People
[19:00] <Andy_4> !list
[19:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:00] <eifzon> Why do I get this error when I login to my chroot? Could not chdir to home directory /var/chroot/user/shellusr1: No such file or directory
[19:01] <Indiadev_Techi1> :0 :) ;)
[19:01] <runemaste644> finally got remote desktop running thanks to krdc
[19:01] <joh6nn> eifzon: are you sure that directory exists?
[19:02] <eifzon> joh6nn: I am inside it
[19:02] <eifzon> but I get that error
[19:02] <Byan> /var/chroot/user/shellusr1 < that file
[19:02] <Byan> does it exist
[19:02] <joh6nn> eifzon: what the permissions on that directory?
[19:02] <eifzon> its a folder
[19:02] <eifzon> joh6nn: how to see
[19:02] <Byan> ls -l
[19:02] <joh6nn> eifzon: ls -l
[19:02] <eifzon> drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2008-03-01 19:56 shellusr1
[19:02] <Byan> do you chroot as root?
[19:02] <joh6nn> eifzon: are you chrooting as root?
[19:02] <eifzon> no
[19:02] <eifzon> or?
[19:03] <joh6nn> Byan: stop copying me! ; )
[19:03] <eifzon> I was in root now ;P
[19:03] <eifzon> when I check it
[19:03] <iDN> Does anyone have an idea how to merge the ntfs partitions in this picture: http://i31.tinypic.com/15oi4np.png
[19:03] <Byan> joh6nn: =p i'll let you take care of it
[19:03] <Flare183> !enter | eifzon
[19:03] <ubotu> eifzon: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:03] <iDN> ?
[19:03] <Flare183> iDN: ???
[19:03] <Flare183> hehe
[19:03] <joh6nn> eifzon: try your chroot command with sudo
[19:03] <iDN> Flare183: ?
[19:03] <joh6nn> that will probably help
[19:03] <RionM> help - I can't get to my desktop. It says 'There was an error starting the GNOME Setting Daemon.' The last error message was: Process /usr/lib/gnome-control/center/gnome-settings/daemon received signal 11
[19:03] <eifzon> joh6nn: what you mean?
[19:03] <Flare183> iDN: dude what is with the "?" marks?
[19:04] <zoe> Hi, I recently upgraded my graphics card, and now all video plays in negative color. Any suggestions?
[19:04] <joh6nn> eifzon: are you new to Ubuntu?
[19:04] <LoLLo> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs8sYe4uqM
[19:04] <eifzon> joh6nn: no
[19:04] <Flare183> !spam | LoLLo
[19:04] <ubotu> LoLLo: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[19:04] <iDN> Flare183: Huh? :O
[19:04] <Flare183> XD
[19:04] <Flare183> iDN: I don't know
[19:04] <joh6nn> eifzon: i just mean that chroot is a command that's usually run by the root user, so that in Ubuntu, you'll need to use sudo to run chroot
[19:04] <xq> LoLLo: nice
[19:04] <Starnestommy> RionM: try sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-control-center
[19:05] <joh6nn> e.g., "sudo chroot /path/to/directory"
[19:05] <Flare183> xq: wow what the mess>
[19:05] <Flare183> ?
[19:05] <eifzon> joh6nn: inside the passwd file?
[19:05] <LoLLo> xq :D
[19:05] <holicowww> how do you pronounce ubuntu?
[19:05] <iDN> Flare183: Ummm, OK.
[19:05] <Flare183> xq: you see I have been helping ALOT
[19:05] <xq> LoLLo: Now go find a how to on how to implement that ;)
[19:05] <joh6nn> eifzon: no
[19:05] <Flannel> holicowww: oo-boon-too
[19:05] <zoe> Hi, I recently upgraded my graphics card, and now all video plays in negative color. Any suggestions?
[19:05] <joh6nn> eifzon: what is the command that you are running, that gives you the error?
[19:05] <Flare183> !ubuntu | holicowww
[19:05] <needmorecoffee> anyone know the hsync/vsync ranges on Dell Inspiron 6400?  getting that 'no screens found' error
[19:05] <eifzon> joh6nn: when I connect to the chroot
[19:05] <Flare183> move it bot
[19:05] <PP|Spydon> http://www.opentheblob.com/nvidia/index.php?signatures=normal - Sign this open letter to Nvidia for open drivers, the total signatures now is 1784. :)
[19:06] <joh6nn> eifzon: yes, but can you paste in the exact command?
[19:06] <holicowww> Flannel ;)
[19:06] <eifzon> sure
[19:06] <Flare183> it's Flare
[19:06] <PP|Spydon> do i get one of those spam warnings now too? :P
[19:06] <Flare183> it's Flare183
[19:06] <LoLLo> implement in which sense ?
[19:06] <ubotu> holicowww: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[19:06] <LoLLo> implement in which sense ? xq
[19:06] <Flannel> holicowww: take a look at /usr/share/example-content/Experience ubuntu.ogg
[19:06] <eifzon> http://pastebin.ca/924812 joh6nn
[19:07] <Flare183> !who | LoLLo
[19:07] <xq> LoLLo: Ah, Pilo -- instead of using the usual packaged Beryl?
[19:07] <ubotu> LoLLo: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[19:07] <holicowww> Flannel, i'd love to but first i must solve my proglem with grub on usb hdd
[19:07] <loa> can someone explain, why in last kernel hibernate is broken!
[19:07] <zoe> Hi, I recently upgraded my graphics card, and now all video plays in negative color. Any suggestions?
[19:07] <loa> but in 2.6.24.5 al is ok!
[19:07] <iDN> Does anyone have an idea how to merge the ntfs partitions in this picture: http://i31.tinypic.com/15oi4np.png?
[19:07] <RiPPeR666> needmorecoffee: would that stop my problem if i changed the hsync and the vsync??? my montior says lost connection after splash boot screen
[19:07] <bazhang> zoe using compiz?
[19:07] <bluefoxx> ok, im back. i took out my unused tape drive and put in a self-refurbished 80 wire ide cable. i say self refurbished because on end got shredded and i had to chop it off, so it only has one connector. at any rate my CD is burning now. hopefully this also solves the problem of my computer locking up beyond even reisub when i try to rip a dvd.
[19:07] <LoLLo> xq nono lol Pilo is my secondary nick :D
[19:08] <zoe> bazhang, yes
[19:08] <bluefoxx> now to find a way to turn /dev/cdrom1 into /dev/dvd
[19:08] <Andy_4> !list
[19:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:08] <xq> LoLLo: Oh, you just posted the video ;) Nice job. Is that your desktop featuring Compiz settings in action?
[19:08] <Flannel> loa: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[19:08] <bazhang> zoe if I recall correctly there is a compiz plugin that does that you might try disabling compiz and see if that does the trick
[19:08] <Flannel> holicowww: What problem are you having with GRUB?
[19:09] <RiPPeR666> would that stop my problem if i changed the hsync and the vsync??? my montior says lost connection after splash boot screen
[19:09]  * Flare183 loves Compiz-Fusion
[19:09] <RiPPeR666> would that stop my problem if i changed the hsync and the vsync??? my montior says lost connection after splash boot screen
[19:09] <iDN> Does anyone have an idea how to merge the ntfs partitions in this picture: http://i31.tinypic.com/15oi4np.png?
[19:09] <needmorecoffee> ripper666: dont know
[19:09] <erawfish_> bazhang: it already should be. doesn't /dev/dvd exist?
[19:09] <erawfish_> oops. dvd snd scdX
[19:09] <Flannel> !repeat | iDN, RiPPeR666
[19:09] <ubotu> iDN, RiPPeR666: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:09] <bobbo> Does anyone in here know how big in GB Universe is?
[19:09] <xq> LoLLo: Were you/are you involved in OpenMoko devel?
[19:09] <mIKEjONES> why isn't valgrind in ubuntu's repository?
[19:09] <david> ubuntu is fantastically random here..
[19:09] <RiPPeR666> sry hit paste twice
[19:09] <zoe> bazhang, didn't work, still reversed
[19:09] <david> every new install is different
[19:09] <LoLLo> xq no actually i use only few features of compiz ; yes it's my first video :P
[19:09] <holicowww> Flannel, i'll be able to describe in a few minutes (making reinstallation - hope something gone wrong occasionally)
[19:10] <Flannel> mIKEjONES: It is
[19:10] <joh6nn> eifzon: no chance you speak german, huh?
[19:10] <erawfish_> david: the beauty of linux :P
[19:10] <Fabio_Como> hello, how can I use xdm on Ubuntu Gutsy? thanks
[19:10] <bazhang> zoe that is odd
[19:10] <erawfish_> !de | joh6nn
[19:10] <ubotu> joh6nn: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:10] <david> must be some hidden randomgenerator in the install er erawfish_ :P
[19:10] <erawfish_> Fabio_Como: install it
[19:10] <eifzon> joh6nn: nope
[19:10] <Flare183> Fabio_Como: you mean Xubuntu?
[19:10] <zoe> yes
[19:10] <xq> LoLLo: You should post a how to or at least a small mini-guide on the features you are utilizing :) And post it as a comment in the video...I am sure people will ask.
[19:10] <Starnestommy> mIKEjONES: it might not have been ported to the repositories yet
[19:10] <erich> Hello, I'm wondering if it is possible to run XFCE panel instead of GNOME panel in GNOME
[19:10] <david> now all of a sudden bootsplash won't work, altho it has earlier
[19:10] <david> haha
[19:10] <RiPPeR666> needmorecoffee: well it seems that w have the same prolem no????
[19:10] <Havvy> Can somebody help me with making a live bootable version of linux for a SanDisk Cruzer Micro USB?
[19:10] <Flare183> xq: massvie traffic right?
[19:10] <Fabio_Como> erawfish_: this say that it has no candidates to install: sudo apt-get install xdm
[19:11] <Fabio_Como> Flare183: i mean Ubuntu
[19:11]  * Flare183 says I can't spell!
[19:11] <erawfish_> !info xdm
[19:11] <david> Havvy: there are great tutorials for that around
[19:11] <RionM> Starnestommy: that seemed to make progress but my desktop was just black
[19:11] <Flannel> Havvy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-86a18ab57715d9bb5f0dfaba497a928e67cd73ed
[19:11] <ubotu> xdm (source: xdm): X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.4-3 (gutsy), package size 180 kB, installed size 784 kB
[19:11] <mIKEjONES> Flannel: I keep on getting E: Couldn't find package valgrind
[19:11] <erawfish_> Fabio_Como: see that? fix your sources.list
[19:11] <beautifulsnow> I am thinking of reinstalling ubuntu without formating any of the drives, does this sound like a aweful idea?
[19:11] <erawfish_> !info valgrind
[19:11] <ubotu> valgrind (source: valgrind): A memory debugger and profiler. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.2.3-2ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 14066 kB, installed size 34324 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc lpia)
[19:11] <Fabio_Como> oh thank
[19:11] <Flannel> mIKEjONES: You must have something wrong with your sources.list, pastebin it please.
[19:11] <RionM> Starnestommy: But the error message was gone
[19:11] <Flare183> mIKEjONES: google valgrind for linux then
[19:11] <LoLLo> uhm xq i think that only winzoz's users will ask an how to hihihihi ubuntu people are smart
[19:11] <zoe> Hi, I recently upgraded my graphics card, and now all video plays in negative color. Any suggestions?
[19:11] <erawfish_> mIKEjONES: fix your sources.list too
[19:11] <Flannel> Flare183: valgrind is in main.  It's there.
[19:11] <erich> Anyone?
[19:11] <xq> LoLLo: Lol;0
[19:12] <erawfish_> zoe: which card is the new one?
[19:12] <RiPPeR666> ok. i have been trying alot of different options in trying to get ubuntu to work and im just about to give up. First of all when i used the live CD install "7.10" after the boot splash screen my monitor just went blank and nothing was happening. so i read some things and was informed that using the Alt cd with text mode install would work. and it did i now have ubuntu 7.10 installed on my computer, but with the same problems. after
[19:12] <RiPPeR666>  the boot splash screen my monitor just goes black again. so i read some more one these forms and in the irc chat. i installed new drivers via "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" then eidited my xorg.conf files and changed driver used from "nv" to "nvidia" after i did all this the problem actually got worse. now instead of the screen going blank after the boot splash screen my monitor losses its signal to my comp. how lovely!!! s
[19:12] <RiPPeR666> o now i cant get into terminal with out loading in recovery mode. so i though to myself hey well that made things worse so. i went back to xorg.conf and changed "nvidia" back to "nv". when i did that it still has the same problem as before that my monitor just goes black. but i can still access terminal via "ctrl+alt+F1" and login and everything just cant run x still. below is my xorg.cong file.
[19:12] <Flare183> Flannel: really
[19:12] <david> dude..
[19:12] <zoe> erawfish_, NVidia GeForce 9600GT
[19:12] <Flare183> RiPPeR666: dude wow
[19:12] <xq> RiPPeR666: Pastebin is your friend ;)
[19:12] <xq> !pastebin | RiPPeR666
[19:12] <ubotu> RiPPeR666: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:12] <erawfish_> zoe: what drivers? I doubt you can use anything but vesa right now
[19:12] <mIKEjONES> hm ok
[19:12] <Starnestommy> RionM: is it not showing any panels?
[19:12] <Flare183> xq: yeah reallly
[19:12] <mIKEjONES> I just fixed my sources.list
[19:12] <mIKEjONES> it works
[19:12] <david> -> pastebin
[19:13] <zoe> erawfish_, proprietary NVidia v. 171.05
[19:13] <erawfish_> zoe: then have fun asking nvidia and not us
[19:13] <david> I'm to tired of errors such as this one
[19:13] <RionM> Starnestommy: No panels
[19:13] <revprez> Afternoon, had a quick question about recovering from removing all my kernel images
[19:13] <Flannel> Fabio_Como: xdm is in universe, so make sure you have universe enabled
[19:13] <david> I rather just install 7.04 and then update myself to 7.10 and get a usable system
[19:13] <zoe> erawfish_, lol, I just hoped this chan would know something
[19:13] <revprez> is there anyway I can reinstall the kernel from the LiveCD?
[19:13] <erawfish_> revprez: boot the livecd, chroot to your hdd and apt-get install them again
[19:14] <zoe> erawfish_, being the startling repository of knowledge that it is :)
[19:14] <Fabio_Como> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep universe
[19:14] <Fabio_Como> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[19:14] <Fabio_Como> deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
[19:14] <Flannel> revprez: Why can't you reinstall the kernel otherwise? (booting to an old one?)
[19:14] <revprez> erawfish: thanks, appreciate it
[19:14] <Flare183> oh no
[19:14] <revprez> Flannel: removed them all
[19:14] <erawfish_> zoe: sarcasm gets you on my ignore list very fast
[19:14] <revprez> it was a dumb move on my part
[19:14] <phuzion> Hey, I just plugged in my RadioShack PSX to USB adapter so I can start playing some emulated N64 games on Mupen 64, and I can't figure out how to get my system to recognize the controller and accept input from it.  help
[19:14] <iDN> Does anyone have an idea how to merge the ntfs partitions in this picture: http://i31.tinypic.com/15oi4np.png?
[19:14] <Flannel> revprez: Thats interesting.  Is the machines still running? or did you turn it off?
[19:14] <joh6nn> RiPPeR666: got your liveCD handy?
[19:15] <Fabio_Como> erawfish_: i have universe in the sources.list
[19:15] <zoe> erawfish_, just returning in kind
[19:15] <Havvy> Can somebody help me with making a live bootable version of linux for a SanDisk Cruzer Micro USB?  Step by step.  The tutorials confuse me.  (Over PM preferable)
[19:15] <bluefoxx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57974/ >old, before replacing cable/tossing tape and >http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57978/ >new, after tossing tape drive and replacing cable. anyone care to pick out the problem?
[19:15] <erawfish_> Fabio_Como: it is in universe. use another mirror or something. or use packages.ubuntu.com
[19:15] <Flannel> Fabio_Como: pastebin the output of this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xdm
[19:15] <erawfish_> zoe: plonk. have a nice day
[19:15] <Fabio_Como> it says that the package is no more available or that's nominated in another packaged.
[19:16] <RiPPeR666> joh6nn: nope i got the alt cd live cd didint work had same problem after boot splash screen go black so i instal text based
[19:16] <erawfish_> Fabio_Como: apt-cach policy xdm    too
[19:16] <joh6nn> RiPPeR666: yep, but the liveCD would be a pretty quick way for us to check my hunch
[19:16] <erawfish_> RiPPeR666: what boot options
[19:16] <RiPPeR666> ok i got one
[19:16] <Flare183> nickrud: what's up man?
[19:16] <differentreality> how can I see the privilege of a group ??
[19:17] <david> RiPPeR666: this is on a laptop btw?
[19:17] <erawfish_> !permissions | differentreality
[19:17] <ubotu> differentreality: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[19:17] <nickrud> Flare183: not much
[19:17] <Flannel> differentreality: What do you mean?
[19:17] <Flare183> nickrud: I just got done taking the SAT
[19:17] <nickrud> Flare183: you fail? ;P
[19:17] <holicowww> Flannel, grub is ok now
[19:17] <Flare183> nickrud: I hope not
[19:17] <Flannel> holicowww: good to hear
[19:18] <nickrud> Flare183: heh
[19:18] <Kopfgeldjaeger> anybody using sasc here?
[19:18] <holicowww> Flannel, another question: i've got an internal hdd on my working computer with important information
[19:18] <RiPPeR666> david: not this is one a desktop. amd64 +3800 2 7800 bfg nvidia sli gigbyte mbo
[19:18] <david> oh
[19:18] <munk_> HELP! i installed wine on my ubuntu box and after i uninstalled a few programs they were still in the menu so i deleted them from the menu but now when i installed them back into wine they dont appear in the menu....help pleasE? its not a wine problem its something with the menu but im not sure what and how to fix it...
[19:18] <differentreality> Flannel,  well users for example have specific privileges right ? to use this device but not use that folder etc... dont groups have privileges as well ?
[19:18] <RiPPeR666> im think sli has alot 2 do with it
[19:18] <holicowww> Flannel, with windowsxp encrypted... and ubuntu installed onto usb hdd
[19:19] <joh6nn> RiPPeR666: i'm guessing you need to pass a special boot option to the kernel, in order to get video with the nvidia card
[19:19] <erawfish_> munk_: the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted.  You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o
[19:19] <erawfish_>  DPkg::Opions::="--force-confmiss"  reinstall <packagename>;
[19:19] <holicowww> Flannel, how do i completely isolate ubuntu from accessing the internal hdd during work?
[19:19] <erawfish_> munk_: those menuentries are conf files too
[19:19] <erawfish_> holicowww: don't mount it automatically
[19:19] <xyblor> I'm having glitchy playback with flashplayer-nonfree with firefox on gutsy. Anyone else experiencing this, or know of a better way to play flash content?
[19:19] <FY1> any tips on how-to avoid timeout errors when using samba on wireless?
[19:19] <holicowww> erawfish_, how do i forbid mounting this unique device?
[19:20] <erawfish_> !fstab | holicowww
[19:20] <ubotu> holicowww: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[19:20] <Flannel> differentreality: so you're looking to see the groups ability to access a particular folder?  Yes, groups have privledges as well.
[19:20] <Flare183> bbl people
[19:20] <holicowww> thanks
[19:20] <RiPPeR666> joh6nn: how would i go aboout fixing this boot problem???
[19:20] <RionM> Starnestommy: now the error message is 'Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)'
[19:20] <david> seems the whole underlying graphicsdriver is wrong on this installation (apart from x obviously)
[19:21] <phuzion> What should I use to get .7z files decompressed?
[19:21] <joh6nn> RiPPeR666: well, we can test it with the liveCD.  when the liveCD gets to first menu, if you hit i think F6, it will let you change the kernel options
[19:21] <munk_> erawfish_,  ok thanks il try it..
[19:21] <joh6nn> i'm just trying to figure out what option you'll need to pass it
[19:21] <differentreality> Flannel,  actually i'm looking to see all the privileges that a specific group has... For no specific reason...
[19:21] <ConstyXIV> anyone have a link to the hardy heron wallpaper?
[19:21] <david> phuzion: try fileroller?
[19:22] <david> also try google
[19:22] <bluefoxx> woot^^the cd worked...at least for the virtual machine anyways...
[19:22] <david> (or even search for 7z in synapic or whatnot)
[19:22] <munk_> erawfish_,  where u put package name do i put wine or? the package for the menu? (btw do you know which one it is?)
[19:23] <Copter> Im trying to install ubuntu (AM2 motherboard) and im getting: Kernel Panic: not syncing: IO-APIC+timer doesnt work....Should I give up ? :P
[19:23] <RiPPeR666> joh6nn: ok i have tried this before it give you the boot paramiters most people say take out quick splash and a vga-768 i think right
[19:23] <joh6nn> right
[19:23] <datarimlens> having some issues with symlinks is this the appropriate channel or can  you help me with a better one? Error: Operation not supported
[19:23] <joh6nn> but i don't think the vga=768 will work for you
[19:23] <joh6nn> i think you need a different one
[19:23] <joh6nn> i'm just trying to figure out which one you need
[19:23] <danand> phuzion - apt-cache pkgnames | grep p7z shows a list of packages that look promising. use apt-cache show pkgname to get more info about packages
[19:23] <nickrud> joh6nn: try without any vga
[19:24] <RiPPeR666> yea
[19:24] <joh6nn> nickrud: heh.  that's an idea.  can't make it any worse, huh?
[19:24] <david> seems it's a very common error :B
[19:24] <erawfish_> munk_: wine then
[19:24] <joh6nn> RiPPeR666: what nickrud said
[19:24] <david> (no usplash)
[19:24] <erawfish_> munk_: next time you uninstal: purge
[19:24] <nickrud> johnC: I use only quiet on that line myself
[19:24] <jekyll> Copter: try to disable in apic the bios, i had the same problem
[19:25] <RiPPeR666> ok ill try that but the usplash doesnt seem to be the problem
[19:25] <munk_> erawfish_, alright im assuming that deletes the conf files too...right?
[19:25] <danand> RiPPeR666 - sorry to intrude, but what problem are you having exactly?
[19:25] <beautifulsnow> ~~~~ Question: is it okay to reinstall ubuntu over itself without formatting, if I have just done a fresh install?
[19:25]  * nickrud has a love/hate relationship with tab completion
[19:25] <erawfish_> RiPPeR666: the only thing you need to use is root=/dev....  all else: remoev it
[19:25] <Flannel> differentreality: As far as I know that's just handled by normal permissions.  The audio group is the group for the audio devices, etc.
[19:25] <s0u][ight> hello does anyone know a good program that makes usage of a webcam?
[19:25] <Flannel> s0u][ight: To test?  Ekiga
[19:25] <xq> beautifulsnow: It will format most likely upon reinstallation unless you tell it not to...you will loose information. Unless you upgrade and it recognizes the installation of Ubuntu.
[19:25] <joh6nn> RiPPeR666: getting rid of usplash is more so you can see what's going on
[19:25] <RiPPeR666> ok will that get me to load x still
[19:26] <s0u][ight> Flannel, whit a capital letter?
[19:26] <datarimlens> do symlinks have restrictions in 7.10? I get an error when trying to untar some symlinks or trying to symlink with a .so name?
[19:26] <munk_> erawfish_,  im sorry to bug u again but i did that and it reinstalled a package "wine" but the entries in the menu are still missing...any ideeas?
[19:26] <eifzon> How do I install like irssi to my chroot? the fastest way
[19:26] <RiPPeR666> couldnt i just hit ctrl+alt+F1???
[19:26] <erawfish_> munk_: which links are missing?
[19:26] <differentreality> Flannel,  supposing i want to create a new group and give to the group any privilege i want ? how would I do that ?
[19:27] <erawfish_> RiPPeR666: yes
[19:27] <Flannel> s0u][ight: I don't actually know what the binary is.  It's in your menus though, Internet > Ekiga (or maybe Cmmunications?)
[19:27] <david> hmm.. can't I uninstall usplash without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[19:27] <Flannel> differentreality: What do you mean any privledge you want?
[19:27] <erawfish_> RiPPeR666: is the hardware a notebook?
[19:27] <Flannel> david: no.  But ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[19:27] <s0u][ight> Flannel,  fount it
[19:27] <RiPPeR666> no PC
[19:27] <PP|Spydon> datarimlens, there shouldnt be any restictions on that...
[19:27] <erawfish_> differentreality: you cannot
[19:27] <beautifulsnow> xq:  I know, I plan to tell it not to format. What Im asking is if its okay to tell it to install unformated
[19:27] <Erickj92> when i go to install kubuntu, it tells me it is scanning the disks, but it is stuck at 46% any ideas?
[19:27] <david> Flannel: so it doesn't matter?
[19:27] <danand> differentreality - look at the addgroup command - man addgroup
[19:27] <munk_> erawfish_, well i installed guitar pro and photoshop cs2 and they are not there but normally it puts there any other program...
[19:28] <joh6nn> RiPPeR666: yes to both, but the ctrl+alt+f1 is less reliable
[19:28] <Flannel> david: right.  Although, it'll be reinstalled when you upgrade versions, so you'll need to remove usplash again after upgrading to Hardy
[19:28] <david> Flannel: plus it gets readded again when I reboot and readd? usplash?
[19:28] <munk_> erawfish_, that i install of course....but because i deleted them manually previously they never appear again..
[19:28] <erawfish_> munk_: that's a wine function. recreate the links then. man menu
[19:28] <datarimlens> Cannot create symlink to `libML.so.3.18.32': Operation not supported
[19:28] <david> Flannel: ok
[19:28] <differentreality> Flannel,  to be able to excecute one command but not the other, to be able to access one folder but not the other... etc etc etc
[19:28] <erawfish_> datarimlens: do you run tar under sudo?
[19:28] <xq> beautifulsnow: It may create problems unless it is an upgrade. If you want a fresh install, I recommend formatting the Linux/Ubuntu partition.
[19:28] <sladen> david: remove 'splash' from the kernel command line
[19:28] <datarimlens> it is under sudo
[19:28] <erawfish_> datarimlens: and what is the filesystem you untar to?
[19:29] <datarimlens> good question :)
[19:29] <datarimlens> hgfs
[19:29] <david> sladen: I don't want to disable it, but reinstall it
[19:29] <erawfish_> datarimlens: "mount"
[19:29] <erawfish_> datarimlens: that has no symlinks
[19:29] <Flannel> differentreality: You should read up on unix permissions.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[19:29] <datarimlens> itś mounted allright
[19:29] <david> or rather - remove
[19:29] <beautifulsnow> xq: thing is im only doing it to get the mouse to work (its random, when I intall ubuntu sometimes the mouse works, sometimes it doesn't)
[19:29] <RiPPeR666> erawfish_: even if i hit ctrl+alt+F1 when it trys to load x after the splash screen still goes blank; i can still log into terminal though as soon i i hit f1 it asks me to login and i can access everything in terminal
[19:29] <munk_> erawfish_,  but if i do that then when i take wine off they are still there and they are linked to nothing...i mean it doesnt do it by itself...:(
[19:30] <joh6nn> beautifulsnow: laptop?
[19:30] <erawfish_> RiPPeR666: what videocard and what driver do you use for it?
[19:30] <Havvy> Can somebody help me with making a live bootable version of linux for a SanDisk Cruzer Micro USB on Windows?
[19:30] <sladen> david: sudo apt-get --reinstall install usplash   but I'm not sure what help that will be
[19:30] <erawfish_> munk_: wine does. and no reinstalling wine won't bring them back
[19:30] <prasanna> hey guys, i'm getting this error when i boot: "There was an error starting The GNOME Settings Daemon"
[19:30] <lupo> does anybody from Canada?
[19:30] <prasanna> this happened after a recent update
[19:30] <david> sladen: I suppose it's some weirdness with vga/vesa module I have
[19:30] <erawfish_> lupo: do you have an ubuntu question?
[19:30] <sladen> Havvy: you need to rawrite an image onto the USB stick.  "dragging" a file on does not place the magic boot options at the front
[19:30] <prasanna> everything looks really off now
[19:30] <PP|Spydon> prasanna, have you tried a reboot?
[19:31] <munk_> erawfish_,  so what should i do?
[19:31] <prasanna> yes, several times
[19:31] <RiPPeR666> erawfish_:2 bfg 7800 gts sli via "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[19:31] <erawfish_> munk_: reinstall the apps
[19:31] <sladen> david: okay, so we're getting to the real root of the problem...
[19:31] <PP|Spydon> prasanna, weird...
[19:31] <erawfish_> RiPPeR666: the installer CD has no nvidia drivers
[19:31] <beautifulsnow> joh6nn: it's a logiteh media play usb cordless  mouse.  when I instlal ubuntu, the media buttons work OR don't work depending on how happy the ubuntu install feels like at the time ;p
[19:31] <erawfish_> RiPPeR666: if it's on a installed CD: pastein your Xorg.0.log
[19:31] <prasanna> yea
[19:31] <beautifulsnow> joh6nn: and it's the same ubuntu disk each time, yes
[19:31] <Havvy> sladen:  I don't know much about linux.  Can you help me in a private message?
[19:31] <munk_> erawfish_,  but i did and they still dont appear..
[19:32] <prasanna> what should i do?
[19:32] <nickrud> prasanna: something about not finding /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon ?
[19:32] <erawfish_> munk_: ask #wine
[19:32] <googlingtingwana> prasanna, I see this occasionally too ... logout and back in normally fixes it for me
[19:32] <efren20> how do i install frostware
[19:32] <david> sladen: it's so amusing, Ive had a throw-a-dice result from every installation I've made (differing result each time)
[19:32] <erawfish_> munk_: ask #winehq
[19:32] <erawfish_> efren20: frostwire
[19:32] <prasanna> no
[19:32] <Flannel> !frostwire | efren20
[19:32] <joh6nn> RiPPeR666: from the terminal on ctrl+alt+f1, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[19:32] <ubotu> efren20: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[19:32] <joh6nn> and then see if "startx" gets you anywhere
[19:32] <aghachi> how do i zoom out to view the cube in compiz?
[19:32] <RiPPeR666> ok
[19:32] <prasanna> you know what i'm going to try and reboot again
[19:32] <nickrud> aghachi: press the middle button
[19:32] <david> aghachi: enable zoom on cube rotation
[19:33] <Sinnerman> is it possible to mount an encrypted zip file, or a tarball as a filesystem?
[19:33] <aghachi> middle button on my mouse? i think i enalbed those
[19:33] <david> then MMB or Ctrl+Alt+LMB
[19:33] <erawfish_> Sinnerman: check FUSE. maybe they have a solution
[19:34] <Sinnerman> erawfish_ ah i was hoping one of you already had a slution. im feeling a little too lazy to do any work myself tonight :P. i'll bear FUSE in mind though. thanks. :D
[19:34] <Anthony_Sch> hello. When I use dexktop effects in ubuntu, I can pick up a window and easily drag it to the other desltop - e.g. from the 1st desktop to the 2nd and so on. Is there any way to do the same (drag a window with mouse to the other desktop), but with special effects turned off?
[19:34] <RiPPeR666> erawfish_: were is Xorg.0.log located in etc
[19:34] <ed____> New use What or where is the path to roo cert?
[19:34] <aghachi> nickrub middle button of my mouse?
[19:34] <Anthony_Sch> Thanks in advance!
[19:34] <bluefoxx> hmmm...would it be a bad idea to have my dvd burner indirectly cooled by a system fan that blows air across it?
[19:34] <bod_> aghachi, yes
[19:34] <nickrud> aghachi: yes, it should cause it to zoom out
[19:34] <erawfish_> RiPPeR666: /var/log
[19:34] <RiPPeR666> ok
[19:35] <erawfish_> ed____: root cert for what?
[19:35] <aghachi> it didnt :(
[19:35] <bod_> aghachi, you could also define your own key combo for it in ccsm
[19:35] <Anthony_Sch> PS - desktop = workspace
[19:35] <nickrud> aghachi: you may need to play a bit with the options on desktop zoom to get what you want
[19:35] <ed____> I need to bundle a Root Certificate to an installation package..
[19:35] <differentreality> tnx guys
[19:36] <aghachi> initiate
[19:36] <bod_> yes
[19:36] <aghachi> it says super and button 3....
[19:36] <efren20> ok i installed frostware and is under internet i click to open it but it dosent open it
[19:36] <bod_> aghachi, super = (windows key) button 3 = (prob) rmb
[19:36] <RiPPeR666> erawfish_: ok im looking at it right now. what do you want me to do with it???? its a huge word file
[19:37] <candyban_> Who did I talk to before? ... I have upgraded to alsa 1.0.16
[19:37] <bod_> aghachi, no, button3 is MMB
[19:37] <erawfish_> pastebin it
[19:37] <idefix> any kformula experts here?
[19:37] <aghachi> bod_: whats prob rmb?
[19:37] <aghachi> wats mmb?
[19:37] <bod_> aghachi, ^^^
[19:37] <bod_> aghachi, middle mouse button
[19:37] <ed____> Anyone know how to bundle a root cert with an installation package?
[19:37] <candyban_> Now I can select multiple channels in speaker-test, but only left and right front are working
[19:37] <aghachi> whoa thats COOL!
[19:37] <aghachi> haha
[19:37] <fbc> can some see if they can VNC to my box... Please PM me for the IP. I can't seem to make it VINO work.. weird.
[19:38] <idefix> !kformula
[19:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kformula - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:38] <david> aghachi: R/M/L MB = Right/Middle/Left MouseButton
[19:38] <bod_> aghachi, oops sorry,.,.RMB = right mouse button, LMB = left mouse button & MMB = middle mouse button
[19:38] <candyban_> http://pastebin.ca/924824
[19:38] <david> :P
[19:38] <aghachi> kk thanx
[19:38] <Some_Person> Was SimCity 2000 ever made for Linux? I have the original SimCity and SimCity 3000 working, and I'd like to also have 2000.
[19:38] <idefix> what to do about the error "klauncher said: Unbknown protocol '....'.?
[19:38] <bod_> no prob ;~)
[19:38] <stephans> does anyone have any ideas as to why ubuntu preseed install would ignore this: d-i mirror/http/hostname string horus
[19:38] <RiPPeR666> erawfish_; i see one thing that doesnt look good already it says (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[19:38] <efren20> ok i installed frostware and is under internet i click to open it but it dosent open it
[19:39] <ed____> My instructions are cp -f <path_to_root_cert/<root_cert_filename> vpnclient/rootcert.... Only I don't know the path to the root cert nor the cert file name.
[19:39] <K_Nine> efren20: Try using Alt/F2.
[19:39] <erawfish_> RiPPeR666: do what I said or ask someone else for help
[19:39] <bod_> stephans, maybe because of the spaces?
[19:39] <efren20> k_nine:then wat
[19:39] <RiPPeR666> erawfish_: sry new to irc dont realy know how to use pastebin
[19:39] <erawfish_> efren20: open a terminal and try to start it from there
[19:39] <eifzon> Anyone can help me to fix so irssi works in my chroot?
[19:39] <K_Nine> efren20: You may not be able to type in it. I have to type in a word processor and paste.
[19:39] <bod_> !paste
[19:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:40] <K_Nine> ef
[19:40] <K_Nine> efren20: `type in the name and run.
[19:40] <efren20> nothign comes out
[19:40] <Anthony_Sch>  hello. When I use dexktop effects in ubuntu, I can pick up a window and easily drag it to the other desltop - e.g. from the 1st desktop to the 2nd and so on. Is there any way to do the same (drag a window with mouse to the other desktop), but with special effects turned off? Thanks in advance!
[19:40] <ed____> root cert .. help, anyone??
[19:40] <efren20> i download frostwire double clicked pakage and installed
[19:41] <efren20> shows under internet but when i try opening dont opem
[19:41] <K_Nine> efren20: Did it open with the run manager?
[19:41] <efren20> nop
[19:41] <c1|freaky> is there any opensource nopasting system?
[19:41] <ed____> root cert .. help, anyone??
[19:41] <K_Nine> efren20: Try using a terminal as root.
[19:42] <efren20> i run as terminal
[19:42] <efren20> ?
[19:42] <efren20> k_nine:what do you mean by that?
[19:42] <cyberkeks> hi
[19:42] <bod_> efren20, open a terminal then type       sudo gnome-terminal &                 then use the new terminal
[19:42] <cyberkeks> hi solis
[19:43] <Starnestommy> bod_: wouldn't that bee sudo -b gnome-terminal?
[19:43] <Starnestommy> *be
[19:43] <efren20> what do i do in root?
[19:43] <bod_> Starnestommy, dunno, whats the -b argument mean?
[19:44] <bod_> !root | efren20
[19:44] <ubotu> efren20: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:44] <RiPPeR666> eraxfish_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57979/
[19:44] <eifzon> Anyone can help me to fix so irssi works in my chroot?
[19:44] <Starnestommy> bod_: starts the program in the background.  If you use sudo cmd &, it starts sudo in the background
[19:44] <bod_> Starnestommy, ah, i wondered how to get around that, cheers
[19:44] <aghachi> i dont get this it only zooms in
[19:45] <bod_> aghachi, please ask compiz related questions in #compiz-fusion
[19:45] <RiPPeR666> erawfish_: did you get that
[19:45] <aghachi> thanx
[19:45] <bod_> ;~)
[19:45] <efren20> ok so i sudo forstwire
[19:45] <bod_> efren20, correct
[19:45] <Lunar_Lamp> When I search for an app with aptitude (libapache2-mod-perl2) it shows the state as "iB". The "i" stands for installed, what does the "B" stand for?
[19:46] <efren20> give me the java hting
[19:46] <efren20> !java
[19:46] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[19:46] <K_Nine> efren20: What distribution of Linux are you using?
[19:47] <efren20> ubunut gnome
[19:47] <efren20> i dont really know
[19:47] <bod_> efren20, 7.10?  Gutsy Gibbon?     gnome is just what desktop gui your using
[19:47] <RiPPeR666> shit i think i lost eraxfish_
[19:47] <ConstyXIV> can you "hotplug" a monitor on a laptop, without rebooting X?
[19:47] <bod_> !language | RiPPeR666
[19:47] <ubotu> RiPPeR666: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:47] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: dpkg -l | grep libapache2-mod-perl2, what do the first group of characters say?
[19:48] <RiPPeR666> lol i still write like i talk
[19:48] <K_Nine> efren20: You are asking about a lot of questions that should not have come up with Ubuntu.
[19:48] <bod_> !lol | RiPPeR666
[19:48] <Lunar_Lamp> Flannel, it doesn't show up :-/
[19:48] <efren20> what do you mena?
[19:48] <K_Nine> Ubuntu should have installed a lot of the things you are asking about much easier.
[19:48] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: Er... if its installed, it should show up.  Maybe we typed somethingw rong: dpkg -l | grep libapache2
[19:49] <Lunar_Lamp> ii  libapache2-mod 1.999.21-1     Integration of perl with the Apache2 web ser <== I get that if I just grep "apache"
[19:49] <bod_> why did the !lol *toid not work?
[19:49] <stephans> bod_: I only have single whitespaces... that is the right way is it not?
[19:49] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: that's a lower case L
[19:49] <Lunar_Lamp> Flannel, yeah, I know, I think it's because it doesn't show the full package name (frustratingly)
[19:49] <Lunar_Lamp> But it is shown as "ii".
[19:49] <bod_> stephans, you cant have spaces in a command like that,. "enclose it in quotes"
[19:49] <FreakGuard> ssh-copy-id --> /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found
[19:49] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: alright, the ii at the beginning menas its desired to be installed (first) and it it is installed (second), there's a key at the top of the dpkg -l line. But, I don't knwo what B means in aptitude
[19:50] <RiPPeR666> hey if i pastebin my Xorg.0.log file can someone hep me figure out y i cannot load x
[19:50] <EnvoyRising> is there a command to delete no longer used config files in the home directory? --purge only works on config files in /etc
[19:50] <Lunar_Lamp> Which looks fine.  So, my next question is, how can I replace all my apache config files with "default" ones?
[19:50] <Flannel> EnvoyRising: no, just manual deletion
[19:50] <ed____> In ubuntu the only time it askmed me for a name I supplied one..  Is that the su user?  I don't have a password for su
[19:50] <ed____> Anyone know where is the path to root cert in ubuntu?
[19:50] <EnvoyRising> Flannel, was afraid of that, thanks
[19:50] <danand> RiPPeR666 - go for it
[19:50] <RiPPeR666> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57979/
[19:51] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: reinstall the packages (remove --purge then install again, or some say --reinstall works, I've never actually used the latter)
[19:51] <bluefoxx> so, hows ubuntu's support for old S3 trio64V+ PCI cards right now? i need a better graphics card for my other computer and have one of these kicking around
[19:52] <RiPPeR666> if my hsync is of would that mess up loaing x
[19:52] <Lunar_Lamp> Flannel, well, yes, that's what I thought to do - except purge doesn't seem to get rid of the configs :-/
[19:52] <zakirs> hi .. i have a problem with my intel hda ich7 family sound card ( conexant codec) in my laptop can any body please help
[19:52] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: You need to make sure you get the package with the config files, it's the -common package
[19:52] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: apache2.2-common in feisty, apache2-common in others
[19:52] <RiPPeR666> seems to me by reading my xorg.0.log that thats the problem
[19:52] <david_> does anyone know how to increase the refresh rate above 50hz in ubuntu
[19:53] <Flannel> Lunar_Lamp: you can see what package a particular file belongs to with dpkg -S [path]
[19:53] <Lunar_Lamp> ah ok, cheers Flannel - I didn't think of dpkg -S
[19:53] <j85wilson> flash plugin to firefox doesn't seem to get keystrokes.
[19:53] <j85wilson> anybody know why this might be?
[19:54] <Tm_T> j85wilson: click it
[19:54] <j85wilson> I'm not that dumb ;)
[19:54] <j85wilson> it's been clicked.
[19:54] <Tm_T> j85wilson: ;)
[19:54] <j85wilson> and yes, my computer is plugged in. ;)
[19:57] <sladen> havvy: I could, but you might get a faster response from asking in the channel
[19:58] <holicow> what password is used for su by default?
[19:58] <Starnestommy> holicow: there is no password
[19:58] <bluefoxx> do S3 cards work in linux very well yet?
[19:58] <Starnestommy> holicow: but sudo (not su) uses your user's password
[19:58] <mjw-> bluefoxx S3? S3 has been dead for years...
[19:58] <danand> RiPPeR666 - i was more worried by your errors and warnings. especially line 316 of your pastebin - (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:0) found. why are you using the vesa driver?
[19:58] <holicow> k
[19:58] <holicow> thanks
[19:58] <danand> RiPPeR666 - can you pastebin the output of lspci?
[19:59] <nikolakis> dfd
[19:59] <Robert01752> hello room
[19:59] <RiPPeR666> danand: oh i was just trying differnt drivers it should be nv or nvidia
[20:00] <bluefoxx> mjw-: i know that. its just i salvaged some S3 cards from old school computers and i need a PCI graphics card for my other computer, onboard is not cooperating with the CRT pluged into it. keeps cutting off and ghosting over itself...weird.
[20:00] <Some_Person> Was SimCity 2000 ever made for Linux? I have the original SimCity and SimCity 3000 working, and I'd like to also have 2000.
[20:00] <aghachi> whats the compiz channel again?
[20:00] <danand> RiPPeR666 - did X load when you were using those modules?
[20:00] <Starnestommy> Some_Person: it works in wine, but I don't know of any linux ports
[20:00] <Some_Person> Starnestommy: I've tried it in wine... it's not great there
[20:00] <mjw-> bluefoxx: What kind of card does lspci identify it as? I had nothing but grief with the s3 virge cards back in the day in linux (~1999)
[20:01] <RiPPeR666> danand: no but i could still acess terminal if i hit ctrl+alt+F with nv and it takeme to text based login screen
[20:01] <bluefoxx> mjw-: the card in question is an S2trio64V+ PCI card
[20:01] <bluefoxx> still booting the xubuntu cd onto it though
[20:01] <jk__> hi
[20:01] <jk__> is there anyway i can get windows back?
[20:02] <danand> RiPPeR666 - can you pastebin the output of lspci?
[20:02] <adaptr> nope
[20:02] <mjw-> bluefoxx wow, that is vintage...1996ish.
[20:02] <Some_Person> Starnestommy: Specifically, music doesn't sound right, sound effects don't work at all, and the game is slow
[20:02] <bluefoxx> mjw-: i dont have a normal 7.10 disk anymore. a old creative drive ate mine.
[20:02] <bluefoxx> mjw-: i collect the antique parts ;)
[20:02] <Darkmystere> err, my Ubuntu Gusty install doesnt seem to connect to any AP says its connected but no ping nor browser works...
[20:02] <jk__> does nayone know how to get windows xp back after installing ubuntu?
[20:02] <Some_Person> mjw-: 1996 isn't vintage
[20:03] <RiPPeR666> danand: were is that file located???
[20:03] <Darkmystere> im using WICD it used to work...if i switch to another linux distro it connects...
[20:03] <zelrikriando> hello
[20:03] <Some_Person> jk__: depends
[20:03] <zelrikriando> I just installed Enlightement and I dont know how to activate it
[20:03] <Roooty> Hi, how do I backup my home folder? Nothing I've tried is working (rsync, copy/paste in Gnome)
[20:03] <Some_Person> jk__: when you partitioned, you did keep the windows partition in tact, right
[20:04] <mjw-> Some_Person you're right...in computer terms, it's a fossil. ;)
[20:04] <bluefoxx> mjw-: i would use a AGP card but the atx mini asus tusi-m doesnt have a AGP port[i have more than enough AGP cards]
[20:04] <rambo3> zelrikriando, you log out and choose enlgihtment
[20:04] <jk__> no ubuntu cleaned the all the xp
[20:04] <danand> RiPPeR666 - lspci is a command: type lspci > lspci.txt in a terminal. the gedit lspci.txt - you can then copy and pastebin
[20:04] <mjw-> bluefoxx the correct X.org server/driver would appear to be "s3"
[20:04] <jk__> and i dont got a windows xp cd because when i bought it i didnt get one
[20:04] <hakerx> who know who can help me to install a Unix FreeBSD 7 ???
[20:04] <Some_Person> jk__: sounds like you will have to reinstall windows
[20:04] <j85wilson> or not.
[20:04] <Some_Person> jk__: unless you kept the windows partition
[20:05] <dom> <</msg ubotu etiquette>>
[20:05] <Darkmystere> seems its not totoaly connecting..
[20:05] <mjw-> bluefoxx the s3 driver doesn't even have a man page so I'm not sure exactly what it supports even
[20:05] <jk__> msg ubotu etiquette
[20:05] <hakerx> who know who can help me to install a Unix FreeBSD 7 ???
[20:05] <zimon> hakerx: maybe #ubuntu isn't the right channel for freebsd questions ..
[20:05] <jk__> do i have to pay to get the windows xp cd?
[20:05] <hakerx> buth i ask for help who can help me !
[20:05] <rambo3> !grub | jk__
[20:05] <Some_Person> jk__: you should have a "Restore CD"
[20:05] <ubotu> jk__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:06] <mjw-> bluefoxx does it work with the vesa driver?
[20:06] <jk__> they never gave me a restore cd
[20:06] <Some_Person> hakerx: go to ##freebsd
[20:06] <FreakGuard> ssh-copy-id --> /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found
[20:06] <danand> hakerx - try looking for the freeBSD channel. are you trying that install using virtual box with ubuntu as the host system?
[20:07] <Some_Person> jk__: ok, are you sure the windows partition is gone?
[20:07] <j85wilson> hmmmmm flash does get my keystrokes when it wants text entry... how odd.
[20:07] <hakerx> and how to register in this server of irc ???
[20:07] <jk__> yes because someone told me to write on the terminal and it only said linux none of them were xp
[20:07] <mjw-> !register > hakerx
[20:07] <chazco> Anyone here using Textmaker on Gusty able to explain how to get the msttcorefonts to work correctly? They show up but they're too small, it seems the padding/spacing is missing
[20:07] <jk__> everything got wiped out
[20:08] <bluefoxx> mjw-: still booting, it froze last time <.< also, the computer in question has no internet access[i has no router].
[20:08] <mangojambo> hi ... how to rename the partitions label in Nautilus  computer:///  when the user are not alow and nautilus root don't see the partitions like the user??
[20:08] <Some_Person> jk__: i dont know what you were told to do, but lets find out for sure.
[20:08] <live> hola
[20:08] <bluefoxx> arrg. my fish have ich again...time to pull out the medicine again...[wearever i put it]
[20:08] <mjw-> bluefoxx: you might try safe or even VGA mode, you'll probably have to manually change the xorg.conf file to use the "s3" driver
[20:08] <Some_Person> jk__: install gparted
[20:08] <jk__> how do i install that?
[20:08] <Some_Person> jk__: sudo apt-get install gparted
[20:09] <bluefoxx> mjw-: it freezes bootup at "configuring X". i booted w/o the "quiet" option.
[20:09] <rambo3> jk__, start terminal and type:  sudo fdisk -l
[20:09] <jk__> i did
[20:09] <danand> jk__ - if you want to see all the partitions you have on your machine type sudo fdisk -l in a terminal
[20:09] <Some_Person> jk__: what did fdisk say?
[20:10] <danand> rambo3 - :) bit late
[20:10] <Some_Person> jk__: post on http://paste.ubuntu.nl
[20:10] <mjw-> bluefoxx have you tried booting in vga mode?
[20:10] <jk__> some_person what do i do then it saying :-$
[20:10] <bluefoxx> mjw-: doing that now.
[20:10] <Some_Person> jk__: please run sudo fdisk -l and post to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[20:10] <lwizardl> hi
[20:10] <lwizardl> how can i display how much ram a laptop has instead while inside gnome?
[20:11] <mjw-> bluefoxx i'm almost certain the Trio64 cards were not VESA 2.0 compatible, so the default vesa driver will probably hang the startup
[20:11] <danand> lwizardl - type free in a terminal
[20:11] <jk__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57988/
[20:11] <rambo3> lwizardl, like screenlets gdesklets or in terminal ?
[20:12] <Some_Person> jk__: ok, windows is not installed
[20:12] <row> I am using apt-mirror and Kubuntu's alt cd to do a netboot install yet I am getting missing files in my mirror "acpi-modules-2.6.22-14-generic-di_2.6.22-14.52_i386.udeb", any suggestions?
[20:12] <Some_Person> jk__: you will need to reinstall windows
[20:12] <jk__> ut they never gave me a cd
[20:12] <jk__> when i needed to reinstall windows
[20:12] <jk__> i did f12 which did system restore
[20:12] <Some_Person> jk__: not even a "Restore CD"?
[20:12] <row> I seem to have 	acpi-modules-2.6.22-14-generic-di_2.6.22-14.46_i386.udeb and such but not 52...
[20:12] <jk__> nope
[20:12] <Some_Person> jk__: what is your manufacturer?
[20:12] <jk__> i mena it was f10
[20:13] <jk__> hp
[20:13] <LoLLo> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs8sYe4uqM
[20:13] <danand> jk__ - did your system reinstall from an image on the hard disk
[20:13] <jk__> i dont know
[20:13] <Some_Person> danand: his entire windows (including any restore stuff) is gone
[20:13] <rambo3> jk__, you lost windows. either get somone elses XP CD and use your cd key . or call HP for a CD .
[20:14] <Blinkiz> I have a logitech quickcam pro 5000 that I would like to get working in ubuntu. Do I need any special program for this? video4linux I have read on the net. Is it included in windows? Does it exist software for logitech quickcam? Please advice
[20:14] <bluefoxx> mjw-: still freezes in safe graphics mode - .-
[20:14] <sdfowf> i got a crazy network idea me and a friend are trying to do, anyone willing to take the scenario and guess if it'll work?
[20:14] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: it should work
[20:14] <danand> Some_Person - yeah. That is why i _really_ don't like restore utilities being on the hard disk
[20:14] <mjw-> bluefoxx I think there's an F-key you can press to go so far as to enable VGA-only mode
[20:14] <Some_Person> jk__: are you sure your PC did not come with a restore disc?
[20:15] <mjw-> bluefoxx look at the bottom of the live cd boot screen
[20:15] <bluefoxx> mjw-: kk, will check for that
[20:15] <Some_Person> danand: yeah, i had that problem. i convinced emachines to send me one though
[20:15] <jk__> yes ill just go and double check or sumtin
[20:15] <Erickj92> what is the root password on LiveCD?
[20:15] <mjw-> bluefoxx if that doesn't work, you might have success installing from the alternate cd
[20:15] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: So, how do I work whit this program? You mean I can configure for example videolan (vlc) and get picture?
[20:15] <rambo3> Erickj92, enter
[20:15] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: you should have spc*** or something like that
[20:15] <bluefoxx> !webcam | Blinkiz
[20:15] <ubotu> Blinkiz: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[20:15] <danand> jk__ - you will need to contact the people who sold you the machine and explain why you need a windows restore disk :(
[20:15] <Blinkiz> aaa, nice link. I check them out
[20:15] <Some_Person> jk__: I'm sorry to say that I can't really help you. You should call HP
[20:16] <Erickj92> the "enter" root password did not work
[20:16] <jk__> okay thanks though
[20:16] <rambo3> Erickj92, sudo -i
[20:16] <Erickj92> thanks
[20:16] <beautifulsnow> :/ Any of you have problems with the media buttons on your mouse not working after a fresh ubuntustudio install? It seems its random, maybe one install it works, maybe it doesnt :/
[20:16] <sdfowf> computer1 is an openbsd router/firewall, it has 2 nics. computer2 is a linux distro with a 10/100 nic and a wifi card, and across the street is my friends linksys accesspoint. me and him would like to connect my entire network ( which is behind my openbsd router, basically connect my router) to his accessoint across the street, by bridging it thru the linux box. crazy, but, is it possible?
[20:17] <idefix> is the CUPS server something that started since Dapper Drake?
[20:17] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: most webcams have worked out of the box for me[but thats only two XD] i used a logitech quiccam chat and a labtec cam i found at a thrift store[but it has logitech chipset]. try lsusb with the webcam pluged in, you should be able to find it.
[20:18] <Erickj92> how do i dual boot gentoo and ubuntu with gentoo already installed?
[20:18] <danand> idefix - no. CUPS has been around for a long time
[20:18] <sdfowf> i guess my idea is too crazy?
[20:18] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: it should look something like "Bus 003 Device 003: ID 046d:0921 Logitech, Inc. Labtec WebCam"
[20:18] <Some_Person> jk__: you can contact HP online here: http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/contact/chat_1.html
[20:18] <hdevalence> Erickj92: use sudo
[20:19] <danand> sdfowf - yes :D
[20:19] <idefix> danand - I cannot contact CUPS since I upgraded to Dapper
[20:19] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Yeah, seams like my webcam drivers is already included. So what program do you recommend to view with?
[20:19] <rambo3> Erickj92, learn grub
[20:19] <danand> idefix - have you checked its running?
[20:19] <Erickj92> rembo3, i mean install it. i cant shrink my primary partition
[20:19] <Erickj92> to allow room for ubuntu
[20:19] <Erickj92> rambo**
[20:19] <goodhabit> Hello. How I can setup router with ubuntu server?
[20:19] <Some_Person> Erickj92: is it ntfs?
[20:19] <sdfowf> danand, why couldn't it be done? crossover the linux card to the router, and then on the linux kernel just bridge the interfaces together, then associate the linux box with the accesspoint?
[20:19] <Erickj92> ex3
[20:20] <Some_Person> Erickj92: is it full?
[20:20] <rambo3> Erickj92, how many primaries do you havE?
[20:20] <w0lt-_> anyone had any positive experience installing ubuntu on a core duo mac?
[20:20] <Erickj92> it is one 160 GB hard drive
[20:20] <Erickj92> and the only hard drive
[20:20] <sdfowf> danand, i mention this because i've done it with an openbsd box, but, not with linux, linux seems to always instist and needed an IP address, never had that problem with the openbsd software.
[20:20] <idefix> danand - it's not running in the first page of top
[20:20] <RiPPeR666> can someone check out this xorg.0.log file and see if you can figure out y X wont load for me
[20:21] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: i sugest to try cheese, camorama but my fav is camstreams
[20:21] <idefix> why does ps only have three processes and top loads?
[20:21] <mangojambo> please ... how to rename the partitions label in Nautilus  computer:///  when the user are not alow and nautilus root don't see the partitions like the user??
[20:21] <Some_Person> Erickj92: is it full?
[20:21] <Erickj92> no
[20:21] <Erickj92> only like 4 gb used
[20:21] <Armi1> Hi!
[20:21] <danand> idefix - check if cups is running with the command /etc/init.d/cupsys status
[20:22] <Armi1> What ATI driver is the best on Ubuntu?
[20:22] <Some_Person> Erickj92: what partition software are you using?
[20:22] <Erickj92> qtparted
[20:22] <Erickj92> off of livecd
[20:22] <bluefoxx> mjw-: ok, the s3 wont work, so im trying a ati mach64 with 4 mb gram and two processors
[20:22] <bluefoxx> instead
[20:22] <RiPPeR666> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57989/ this is my xorg.0.log file
[20:22] <danand> sdfowf - what your attempting to do seems a bit complex for my poor old brain :]
[20:22] <sdfowf> hmm.
[20:23] <lunks> Everytime I close my lid, a beep is heard... how to disable it?
[20:23] <mjw-> bluefoxx it wouldn't even boot in vga mode?
[20:23] <idefix> danand - I get unable to open pidfile '/var/run/cups/cupsd.pid' for writing
[20:23] <Some_Person> Erickj92: hmm, i've never heard of this issue, try using gparted instead of qtparted (i've been able to resize ext3 in gparted)
[20:23] <Armi1> Help on Ati Drivers over here! <---
[20:23] <idefix> danand - the dir does not exist
[20:23] <bluefoxx> mjw-: nope
[20:23] <danand> sdfowf - i would advise the kiss principle - keep it simple :]
[20:23] <Erickj92> Some_Person, gtparted is not on the livecd, though
[20:23] <idefix> danand - CUPS is also not in my Synaptic Packet Manager :(
[20:23] <sdfowf> naw
[20:23] <mjw-> bluefoxx hopefully the mach64 will work.
[20:23] <Some_Person> Erickj92: ubuntu live cd?
[20:24] <Erickj92> kubuntu
[20:24] <Some_Person> Erickj92: oh
[20:24] <mjw-> !justask | Armi1
[20:24] <ubotu> Armi1: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:24] <sdfowf> need to ask the right people, everyone tells me i need to give the linux box an ipaddress to work, which makes NO sense
[20:24] <danand> idefix - check you have that file in /etc/init.d first
[20:24] <Armi1> mjw-: sorry!
[20:24] <danand> idefix - ls /etc/init.d/cup*
[20:24] <Armi1> !info ati
[20:24] <ubotu> Package ati does not exist in gutsy
[20:24] <mjw-> Armi1 what ATI card do you have
[20:24] <Some_Person> Erickj92: ok
[20:25] <jakobt> My X11 forwarding stopped working, it seems DISPLAY is not set, any ideers?
[20:25] <idefix> danand - /etc/init.d/cupsys  /etc/init.d/cupsys.dpkg-dis
[20:25] <Some_Person> Erickj92: is it mounted?
[20:25] <Erickj92> i dont think so
[20:25] <Armi1> !info fglxr
[20:25] <ubotu> Package fglxr does not exist in gutsy
[20:25] <Armi1> !info fglrx
[20:25] <ubotu> Package fglrx does not exist in gutsy
[20:25] <binaries-APP> !lspci
[20:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:25] <bluefoxx> mjw-: ill just sell it or throw it into another computer that will run win95 or 98 XP. yes, hopefully. its scary that i can recall the models of most of my cards off the top of my head. except for the mystery card. its GPU is covered by a immovable heatsink and has no markings to go off of.
[20:25] <graft> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[20:25] <Erickj92> Some_Person, yes, i think it is now
[20:25] <Some_Person> Erickj92: unmount it
[20:26] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (2.6.22.4-14.10)): Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 8357 kB, installed size 22472 kB
[20:26] <Erickj92> SOme_Person, how?
[20:26] <mrunagi> i have a conexant capture card that the feed is scrambled lines, can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[20:26] <bluefox83> ok, anyone feel up to helping me get my atheros AR5006EG wireless to connect to my router?  it can SEE my wireless network, it just can't seem to CONNECT to it...
[20:26] <Some_Person> Erickj92: sudo umount /wherever/it/is/mounted/to
[20:26] <idefix> anand - 92 files in /etc/init.d
[20:26] <graft> bluefox83: tried running dhcp by hand?
[20:26] <mjw-> bluefoxx you could stick the card in, boot off a minimal live cd of linux, and lspci to figure out what it is
[20:27] <Armi1> graft: thanks!
[20:27] <geirha> !ati | armil
[20:27] <ubotu> armil: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:27] <edyangra> Do anybody know anything about install web can in ubuntu?
[20:27] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Does not seems like my webcam can be found by cheese, camstream or gqcam. This is the output from dmesg when I plugin the camera: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57990/
[20:27] <c4f3> webcam?
[20:27] <Erickj92> Some_Person, it still does not let me edit the partitions.
[20:27] <bluefoxx> mjw-: its a AGP card, and i have only one mobo with a AGP slot[and it uses a slot one...]
[20:28] <idefix> danand - shall I just put an empty cupsd.pid in the dir? but shouldn't it be in /var/run/cups/ ?
[20:28] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: ok, iwll check
[20:28] <danand> idefix - check that cups is correctly installled on your machine - type dpkg-query -s cupsys. 2nd or 3rd line down should tell you if its installed ok
[20:28] <edyangra> yes!
[20:28] <Some_Person> Erickj92: does it give an error?
[20:28] <jakobt> My X11 forwarding stopped working, it seems DISPLAY is not set, any
[20:28] <jakobt> 	 ideers?My X11 forwarding stopped working, it seems DISPLAY is not set, any
[20:28] <jakobt> 	 ideers?
[20:28] <Blinkiz> edyangra: hehe, currently investigation this. Just search for "webcam" in respository and you will find a bunch of tools
[20:28] <Erickj92> Some_Person, the resize option is just greyed out. no error
[20:28] <c4f3> haha
[20:28] <idefix> danand it's ok installed
[20:28] <Armi1> geirha: What drivers should I install for my ATI Mobility gpu? Is flgxr the best choice?
[20:28] <c4f3> wat your model?
[20:28] <Some_Person> Erickj92: try restarting qtparted after you unmounted the partition
[20:29] <mrunagi> Erickj92: is it mounted?
[20:29] <Erickj92> no
[20:29] <Erickj92> and i did restart it
[20:29] <Erickj92> still no luck
[20:29] <mrunagi> it isnt unmounted?
[20:29] <edyangra> thank you
[20:29] <Erickj92> yes
[20:29] <Some_Person> Erickj92: is this your only partition?
[20:29] <mjw-> armil: what is the output of lspci | grep -i vga
[20:29] <danand> jakobt - check your /etc/ssh/sshd.conf file - see if it allows X forwarding
[20:29] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: can you pastbin you lsusb output?
[20:29] <bluefoxx> !who | c4f3
[20:29] <ubotu> c4f3: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[20:29] <jakobt> danand - it does..
[20:29] <mrunagi> Erickj92: do it from the live cd
[20:29] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Sure...
[20:29] <RiPPeR666> what might this mean??? (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0
[20:29] <Erickj92> Some_Person, it is 2 partitions. one for my /boot, and one for the everything else
[20:30] <mjw-> RiPPeR666 you have an old CRT?
[20:30] <Armi1> mjw-: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400"
[20:30] <mjw-> Armi1 you will need fglrx for that one
[20:30] <mrunagi> Erickj92: do it from the live cd
[20:30] <Erickj92> i am
[20:30] <danand> idefix - try and sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start   see what output you get
[20:30] <geirha> Armi1: If you don't get visual effects out of the box, you most likely need fglrx
[20:30] <mrunagi> are you on it now?/
[20:30] <Erickj92> yes
[20:30] <RiPPeR666> mjw-: i have a lcd
[20:30] <idefix> I get: Usage: /etc/init.d/cupsd {start|stop|restart|force-reload}
[20:30] <mrunagi> try mounting then unmounting then load qtparted
[20:30] <idefix> danand..
[20:30] <lunks> Everytime I close my lid, a beep is heard... how to disable it?
[20:31] <RiPPeR666> mjw-: thats whats confusing me too
[20:31] <bluefoxx> mjw-: he probally uses a VGA port. my LCD detects as CRT0 when in my VGA port.
[20:31] <mrunagi> idefix: then cups is installed what are you trying to do
[20:31] <Armi1> That just enabling it in Restricted Drivers?
[20:31] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57992/
[20:31] <idefix> mrunagi, I cannot print
[20:31] <danand> idefix - sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[20:31] <mjw-> RiPPeR666 the EDID info is something you're monitor has in it to tell the video card what it's capable of. I can't imagine any LCD not working with that
[20:31] <jakobt> danand - it must me something else.. I have tried searching the web.. but it seems i have not been able to fine a solution..
[20:31] <bluefoxx> lunks: trying to browse the web stealthily? i used to do that XD[laptop+ evil parents+closet]
[20:32] <danand> jakobt - have you tried restarting the sshd server?
[20:32] <mrunagi> idefix: any errors?
[20:32] <idefix> danand - error: start-stop-daemon: Unable to open pidfile `/var/run/cups/cupsd.pid' for writing:
[20:32] <idefix> mrunagi also
[20:32] <mrunagi> idefix: sudo?
[20:32] <idefix> mrunagi yes
[20:32] <RiPPeR666> mjw: yea do you think if the hsyc and the vsync were wrong in the xorg.conf would effect this
[20:32] <mrunagi> chown /that/
[20:32] <ddd> hi i wanted to know how to properly partition ubuntu with a 60 GB hard drive...and 2 gigs of ram?
[20:32] <binaries-APP> lunks: that beep your hearing is your connection being pinged by the network
[20:32] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: do you know which is your webcam?
[20:32] <Armi1> girha: By enabling them in Restricted Drivers should all be set?
[20:32] <mrunagi> ddd: just for ubuntu?
[20:32] <RiPPeR666> mjw-: yea do you think if the hsyc and the vsync were wrong in the xorg.conf would effect this
[20:32] <mjw-> RiPPeR666 perhaps, but i'm not an x.org expert ;)
[20:32] <ddd> yeah
[20:32] <Armi1> mjw-: By enabling them in Restricted Drivers should all be set?
[20:33] <mrunagi> ddd: wipe it out
[20:33] <RiPPeR666> sry for the duoble pst
[20:33] <ddd> wipe it out?
[20:33] <mrunagi> 1 free partition ddd
[20:33] <idefix> mrunagi there's no cups dir in the /var/run dir
[20:33] <jakobt> danand - yep..
[20:33] <mrunagi> idefix: thats the problem
[20:33] <danand> idefix - just a quick check - can you use sudo - ie are you a member of the admin group?
[20:33] <ddd> hold on ill join here in a minute afterr i get into the live CD for ubuntu
[20:33] <bluefox83> has anyone here ever set up an atheros AR5006EG in 64 bit gutsy?
[20:33] <mjw-> Armi1 hopefully so
[20:33] <RiPPeR666> mjw-: there anothe line above a lil bit that has troble to so i post that see what you think
[20:34] <jaguar6> hi
[20:34] <idefix> danand, yes
[20:34] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Hehe, found an error. cheese, gqcam and camstream all is trying to use my mouse as webcam. Will unplug it and see if it makes any diference.
[20:34] <danand> idefix - ls /var/run/cups/ and see whats there
[20:34] <geirha> bluefoxx: 046d:08ce is the webcam, I got the same one
[20:34] <lunks> binaries-APP, hahah no, it's being set by my lid =P
[20:34] <RiPPeR666> mjw-: (WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:0) found
[20:34] <idefix> danand there's not cups dir in /var/run
[20:34] <mjw-> RiPPeR666 so the driver basically doesn't recognize the card as something it can work with, it looks like
[20:34] <Some_Person> Erickj92: i dont know
[20:34] <geirha> only programs I've gotten the webcam to work with is ekiga and luvcview :(
[20:35] <rambo3> !cups
[20:35] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[20:35] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: oops! lol. try pluging in your cam in a port before the mouse[eg: swap the ports theyr in]
[20:35] <danand> idefix - try sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys force-reload
[20:35] <idefix> unable to open /var/run/cups/cupsd.pid for writing
[20:35] <mrunagi> i would REALLY like to set up a desktop machine to act as a security camera server....can anyone point me in the right direction for my capture card problem?
[20:36] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: i wonder why though...i have a logitech reciever in my system with a kbd and mouse on it, yet it doesnt get confused...
[20:36] <danand> idefix - if that doesn't work you may want to try and reinstall cupsys and see if that solves your problem
[20:36] <idefix> danand I had it working before upgrading my ubuntu
[20:36] <jk_> some person you here?
[20:36] <idefix> danand, how do I do that?
[20:36] <RiPPeR666> mjw-: i was thinking the same thing. in my xorg.conf it says busid pci is 4:0:0. but this is saying 5:0:0 i think its finding my other card in here and woundering why there r 2
[20:36] <idefix> it's not in SPM
[20:36] <eifzon> I get this error when I try starting irssi in my chroot, I have /etc/passwd and /etc/groups in my chroot to, here is the error code: http://pastebin.ca/924903
[20:36] <YazzY> hi chaps
[20:36] <mrunagi> !capture
[20:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capture - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:36] <mjw-> RiPPeR666 you have two video cards?
[20:36] <infoclog> how can i find which ubuntu i am currently running?
[20:36] <YazzY> where do i rapport bugs in hardy ?
[20:36] <Eccorusz> hi
[20:37] <Eccorusz> 2 all
[20:37] <RiPPeR666> mjw-: yea 2 bfg 7800 sli
[20:37] <YazzY> infoclog: cat /etc/debian_version
[20:37] <mjw-> RiPPeR666 ahhh, well then I have no idea at all. I'm completely unfamiliar with that kind of setup
[20:37] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Jepp, plugin in logitech webcam in another port (so it has lower number or something, I don know) did the trick. I now have picture in cheese :-D
[20:37] <RiPPeR666> mjw-: hence why i think xorg.is getiing confused
[20:37] <danand> idefix - its possible the reinstall clobbered some config files... to reinstall type sudo apt-get --reinstall install cupsys
[20:37] <Eccorusz> is there any ubuntu in usb  ?
[20:38] <idefix> danand, but this is silly the one dpkg query said CUPS is ok installed
[20:38] <bluefoxx> hehe, almost a month since i lost my system and files and i have 100GB of data back =3
[20:38] <infoclog> YazzY, testing/unstable ! i meant like Edgy or somethin like that
[20:38] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: w00t! well, have fun :)
[20:38] <mjw-> RiPPeR666 try removing one and see if it works then?
[20:38] <Eccorusz> to install and boot from usb
[20:38] <idefix> danand I get two errors
[20:38] <danand> idefix - just tell me again - what was the output of ls /etc/init.d/cup*
[20:39] <idefix> /etc/init.d/cupsys  /etc/init.d/cupsys.dpkg-dist
[20:39] <mrunagi> are capture cards not supported in ubuntu?
[20:39] <RiPPeR666> mjw-: i did find and option in /etc/default/nvidia-kernal that it asks me how many cards are in the system
[20:39] <Eccorusz> is there ubuntu usb N
[20:39] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: how much you pay for your cam anyways? im thinking of making a security camera array :}
[20:39] <mjw-> RiPPeR666 that is probably not referring to SLI setups
[20:39] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: But I don't get picture in camstream. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57993/
[20:39] <danand> idefix - did you try the reinstall and got errors?
[20:40] <RiPPeR666> mjw- i was thinking the same thing
[20:40] <infoclog> YazzY, ???
[20:40] <idefix> yes two errors, something lock and
[20:40] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Payed like 100 dollars for it a year ago or something...
[20:40] <jk_> can i do a pc recovery on hp with the driver named d drive recovery?
[20:40] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Can't recommend it
[20:40] <RiPPeR666> man i waih i had a lab top so i can mess around with ubuntu will i talfk here an try to figure stuff out
[20:40] <Lifeisfunny> Is there any way to get a USB flash memory device back when it's been formated in ext2 ?    My computer can't seem to find it.
[20:40] <infoclog> does anyone know how can i find my Ubuntu version? if i am running edgy or any other release?
[20:40] <Lifeisfunny> t
[20:41] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Bad picture. Really slow if you activate all logitech rightlight shit...
[20:41] <mjw-> infoclog lsb_release -a
[20:41] <mhr> infoclog: uname -a
[20:41] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: O.~ i think ill stick to the value village and cheapy ones...XD
[20:41] <Some_Person> jk_: if you do not have a cd, you cannot restore windows
[20:41] <idefix> danand - unable to get a lock open and unable to lock something (is another proces using in?)
[20:41] <lastelement1> hey all, where are all of the icons stored on my file system?
[20:41] <danand> idefix - looks like you've got another process trying to use apt. kill or stop all versions of synaptics etc
[20:41] <SimplySeth> when one changes the  root filesystem ..  is one supposed to a mkinitrd or something ?
[20:42] <bluefoxx> W00T! i have starwars on my hdd now!!<goes off to watch it>
[20:42] <idefix> OK
[20:42] <infoclog> mjw-, now i know. its Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy
[20:42]  * danand is jealous of bluefoxx!
[20:42] <mhr> lastelement1: have a look at /usr/share/pixmaps/
[20:42] <mrunagi> i cant get no help =)
[20:42] <heartsblood> I've got a HP photosmart 3100 hosted by cups on a osx box on my lan.  Printing success from my ubuntu PC seems intermittent at best.  It seems jobs are getting to the cubs server (I can see them on the completed page of the cups webserver) but I don't see them on the 'print jobs' page of the print que inside osx.  Is is correct to think that the communication problem lies within the cups server on the mac or is it possib
[20:42] <heartsblood> le my gutsy box is sending trash requests to the print server?  And by trash I mean information being misinterpreted.  I've somehow installed two very different print que monitors on my system neither of which I can remove without completely removing gnome-desktop.
[20:43] <infoclog> mjw-, is there anyway to upgrade to the latest?
[20:43] <mjw-> !upgrade > infoclog
[20:44]  * bluefoxx starts on getting LotR onto his computer..and prepairs for the long and painful slow speed of shaw high speed light
[20:44] <idefix> danand thanks a million
[20:44] <Lifeisfunny> Is there any way to get a USB flash memory device back when it's been formatted in ext2 ?    My computer can't seem to find it.
[20:44] <SimplySeth> okay .. what is the ubuntu way of making a new initrd ?
[20:44] <dhq> i have a biometric device what application do i use to use it
[20:45] <bluefoxx> danand: it took me two weeks for a 6 gig file...
[20:45] <heartsblood> wait i'm sorry, not gnome-desktop "ubuntu-desktop".  what exactly is the difference?
[20:45] <YazzY> any of you noticed Dbus core dump with XEN kernels on Hardy  ?
[20:45] <danand> idefix - have you got cups back up and running?
[20:45] <idefix> yes it works perfectly now
[20:45] <Zara> Hello all, its been a few days since i've installed 7.10. problem is, i just don't seem to be getting any updates even with the universal repos on- for eg. i want the latest firefox 3 updates.
[20:45] <Zara> not showing up though
[20:45] <danand> idefix - cool :D
[20:45] <idefix> :D
[20:45] <SimplySeth> heartsblood: ubuntu has pretty ubuntu themes and such :)
[20:46] <bluefoxx> 802 songs, 7 days 15 hours 12 minutes 11.7 gigs. 90% electronica music.
[20:46] <danand> bluefoxx - but by god was it worth it :]
[20:46] <heartsblood> simplyseth: that's it?  Why would 'ubuntu-desktop' be related to cups in any way?
[20:46] <zenwryly> Is there a way to export the permissions/security data for a directory tree?  I want to see what has changed over time in terms of the modes, owners, and groups for a whole directroy tree.  I'd also like to be able to store it.
[20:46] <eifzon> I get this error when I try starting irssi in my chroot, I have /etc/passwd and /etc/groups in my chroot to, here is the error code: http://pastebin.ca/924903
[20:46] <heartsblood> simplyseth: the two seem completely unrelated
[20:46] <bluefoxx> danand: indeed
[20:46] <SimplySeth> heartsblood: so it can be an all emcompassing user friendly experience :)
[20:46] <danand> off down the pub - night all :)
[20:46] <kruqnut> what kind of special burn settings do i need to set to make ubuntu cd bootable?
[20:46] <zenwryly> I guess, essentially, I'd like to version the modes, owners, and groups of files and directories
[20:47] <mjw-> kruqnut: if you burn the ISO with any appropriate program, it's bootable automatically
[20:47] <bluefoxx> danand: now to back it up to my SATA drive, and soon enough to DVD
[20:47] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: It seems like many programs wants to access /dev/video0 path to get picture from the webcam. How can I map my webcam to that path?
[20:47] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Or, what path does my webcam have?
[20:48] <kruqnut> ok so i can just brun image in nero?
[20:48] <BigCanOfTuna> I'd like to use rsync to update a file that is owned by root..ie /etc/init.d/asterisk. How do I do this when Ubuntu doesn't allow direct root login (which I would like to keep)?
[20:48] <mjw-> kruqnut yeah, using the burn from image option
[20:48] <j_> Quick question about "the x server does not support the XRand R extension runtime resolution changes to the display size are not aviaiable"
[20:48] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: that; i am not sure. it did it automatically for me...try opening /dev/video0 in vlc...it should be /dev/video0 unless you have some other tuner/video in device connected[like a tv card] ask on the forums too
[20:48] <idefix> danand there was another error I had " Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'fonts'. " this is not solvable in the same way :(
[20:49] <idefix> danand shall we kick ass and solve two problems in a row?
[20:49] <Kohvihoor> why doesn't my ubuntu turn the ethernet card "on" anymore?
[20:49] <mad_max02> Where are those drive icons located ? I created a location launcher and I wanna give it one of those desktop drive icons.
[20:49]  * bluefoxx loves having two screens...now he can watch his movies, look at pastbin stuff or test programs on one and chat on IRC, MSN or organize files on the other :D
[20:50] <Lifeisfunny> bluefoxx, congrats,   (I get the 'off topic' post when I make comments.)
[20:50] <mrunagi> does anyone know anything about capture cards?
[20:50] <SimplySeth> okay this is mad frustratin' .. there is no mkinitrd
[20:50] <venefyxatu> is there a way to check that my wireless card is physically able send out packets, ie. see if it's not broken?
[20:50] <Blinkiz> bluefoxx: Naa, nothing on /dev/video0. I search around. Thanks for all the help :)
[20:50] <bluefoxx> Lifeisfunny: hehe...
[20:50] <jpatrick> Lifeisfunny: arg, beat me to it..
[20:50] <mad_max02> Where are those drive icons located ? I created a location launcher and I wanna give it one of those desktop drive icons.
[20:51] <j_> Quick question how i use xrandar to fix my tv and lcd screen settings?
[20:51] <bluefoxx> Blinkiz: anytime. like i said, if you cant get help here, try the forums.
[20:52] <idefix> any kformula users here?
[20:53] <venefyxatu> I was having it send out DHCP requests and have another computer run tcpdump on its wireless interface, but nothing seems to be showing up.  Is that a bad sign, or am I doing something wrong?
[20:53] <idefix> I get this error when starting kformula: "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'fonts'." how can I solve this/
[20:53] <bluefoxx> hehe...seems like my AVI codec was crashed last time...i can watch .avi files again X3[i still hate avi file format]
[20:54] <idefix> bluefoxx what format do you like?
[20:54] <adas> hello, i have a problem with grub. I installed WinXP and i now try install grub. But:
[20:54] <adas> root@ubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/hda
[20:54] <adas> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[20:54] <adas> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[20:54] <kleftisx> i've got a problem on UT2004 it says Either GL_EXT_bgra or glDrawRangeElements not supported- bailing out.
[20:54] <jpatrick> adas: please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[20:55] <bluefoxx> idefix: so far i like mpeg and ogg
[20:55] <mozog> hi all
[20:55] <idefix> vlm-runnable
[20:55] <mortal2> hello all.  Could someone please tell me the meta package I should use to install open office (I'm running xubuntu off of the alternate cd...)
[20:56] <mozog> je tu niekto sk alebo cz?
[20:56] <Kohvihoor> why doesnt ethernet card even turn itself on, under linux? :(
[20:56] <holicow> how do i get video codecs for totem?
[20:56] <m4jkl> mozog samozrejme:)
[20:56] <Starnestommy> mortal2: I think openoffice.org
[20:56] <bluefoxx> idefix: avi is too troublesome so far...my friends say the person who made it should be shot in the crotch for all the pain of d/ling a movie then the avi format not working[or the chest if they a female XD] but thats my friend...i sya they should try to play the movies in that format...60% of the time they dont work properly
[20:56]  * bluefoxx starts to make some hot dogs
[20:57] <ompaul> mortal1, sudo apt-get get install openoffice.org -- however unless you got a lot of ram I would not try that
[20:57] <mozog> m4jkl ahoj mohol by som jednu otazku ohladne linuxu?
[20:57] <ompaul> !sk | mozog
[20:57] <ubotu> mozog: Žiadame slovenských používateľov aby v kanáli #ubuntu hovorili po anglicky. Slovensky a česky sa dohovoríte v #ubuntu-cz.
[20:57] <m4jkl> mozog no skus:) ak budem vediet
[20:57] <mjw-> !openoffice > mortal2
[20:58] <mozog> ked mam ovladac na wifi aka koncouka sa instaluje? ako u win exe a u linux
[20:59] <jpatrick> !en | mozog
[20:59] <ubotu> mozog: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:00] <tanath> i need help. my x server keeps crashing about a minute after logging in
[21:00] <bluefoxx> arrg. i hat ethis user switcher applet. i accedently droped my mouse and it clicked it. i logged out but it looked like when my desktop crashes ¬¬
[21:00] <m4jkl> mozog neprisla ti PM? budeme sa rozpravat tam, lebo tu by sa malo po anglicky:) (english: see private message)
[21:01] <tanath> :(
[21:02] <bluefoxx> anyone got a cure for screen glare? im not allowed to close the blinds so thats out...<shakes fist at the sun>
[21:02] <tanath> bluefoxx: turn the monitor?
[21:03] <mozog> m4jkl no pm came to me, i dont know much about ubuntu and to work with it
[21:03] <tanath> bluefoxx: move to the side a bit?
[21:03] <aghachi> can some1 pm their settings for compiz cube rotation.. like binded keys and enabled plugins.. mine dosent zoom out to rotate it just rotates on the desktop
[21:03] <tanath> aghachi: default key bindings are ctrl+alt arrows
[21:03] <tanath> aghachi: or ctrl+alt click & drag
[21:03] <mortal2> mjw-: thank you, I'm migrating my parents from windows 98, and they need to open word perfect documents :)
[21:04] <tanath> aghachi: there's a setting for zoom in the plugin settings
[21:04] <ReXio> Hi everyone
[21:04] <rhsanborn> Is anyone aware of any issues with wireless bandwidth when using either ndiswrapper or WPA supplicant? My wireless is running terribly.
[21:04] <spaghetti_knife> What protocols do wget and synaptic use?
[21:04] <tanath> aghachi: i think i had mine set to about 0.1
[21:04] <Flannel> spaghetti_knife: http
[21:05] <YazzY> infoclog: cat /etc/lsb-release
[21:05] <Flannel> spaghetti_knife: Or ftp, or ssh, or rsh
[21:05] <YazzY> this one is correct
[21:05] <Flannel> spaghetti_knife: man sources.lits
[21:05] <Flannel> spaghetti_knife: sources.list, even
[21:05] <bluefoxx> tanath: allready tried moving around...and the dual screen setup with one hi def CRT on the narrow end of the table and the computer up next to it kind of prevents me from moving anything arouns...XD...im thinking something like saran wrap on it or something...
[21:05] <m4jkl> mozog why do you need install driver? wifi doesn't work after installation?
[21:05] <tanath> bluefoxx: what about turning the whole table? :P
[21:06] <tanath> bluefoxx: or maybe hanging something from the ceiling between you and the window?
[21:06] <ReXio> Anyone knows how repair sound glitch on a hp laptop with Ubuntu 7.04?
[21:06] <tanath> bluefoxx: or propping up something tall
[21:06] <ReXio> Actually I have no sound
[21:06] <igge> what to do if i want to remove a package with dpkg, but the package is so damaged that the remove scripts won't work?
[21:07] <bluefoxx> tanath: nope...XD...im asking about stuff i can put onto the screen XD. lol. i could try that...<goes off to fiund dar colored curtane
[21:07] <bluefoxx> >
[21:07] <m4jkl> mozog probably you need load right module to kernel. example my wifi edimax ew7318USg has driver (module) called rt73usb.ko
[21:07] <spaghetti_knife> Flannel: Thanks. And where could I find some ftp sources? My http sources aren't working very well.
[21:08] <mozog> m4jkl in notebook i found and installed wifi, but i need to install external usb wifi,
[21:08] <Flannel> spaghetti_knife: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors#head-48e05ae20c8e5a38a753c0305e5877080f316308
[21:08] <spaghetti_knife> Flannel: thanks.
[21:09] <tanath> x keeps crashing about a minute after i log in. can anyone help?
[21:09] <usser> igge: you may try to force it
[21:09] <m4jkl> mozog usb wifi:) i have usb wifi too:P what manufacturer and type is it?
[21:10] <usser> igge: something along the lines of dpkg --force all --purge packagename
[21:10] <igge> usser: still doesn't work... gives same result.. i do sudo --force-all --purge <name>  ... right syntx?
[21:10] <Joeb454> tanath, do you get any errors or does x just stop working
[21:10] <mozog> emtec model EKCOWIDU1
[21:11] <ar1s_> HELP!!...i have disable my graphic card from Restricted Devices and when i restart i get an error message that X failed to start. i cannot login into graphic or smth. can anyone help me please??
[21:11] <tanath> Joeb454: there are some, though i'm not sure if any are relevant
[21:11] <spaghetti_knife> Is synaptic running alright for everyone else? Mine used to run 200+kB/s, now it's running, like, .5-10 kB/s.
[21:11] <Joeb454> what do they say?
[21:11] <usser> igge: yea
[21:11] <spaghetti_knife> My isp denies that they're doing anything to slow me down.
[21:11] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: at the command line type in:
[21:11] <tanath> Joeb454: this happened after a hard freeze. even the kernel froze
[21:11] <Joeb454> hmm...
[21:11] <igge> it says sh: Can't open /usr/lib/oss/scripts/restore_drv.sh ... also tried dpkg --no-triggers --force-all --purge
[21:11] <GSF1200S> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:12] <GSF1200S> select your screen resolution and the vesa drivers
[21:12] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: make sense?
[21:12] <tanath> Joeb454: last thing says: IO error occured doing Protocol Setup on connection.
[21:12] <usser> igge: what package is that?
[21:12] <Erickj92> i have an issue. when i open the Kmenu in kubuntu, and go to a thing like "system", the things inside the folder have all kinda of jnk that say: "_: Entries in K-menu: ....." what is going on?
[21:12] <igge> usser: it's oss-linux
[21:12] <usser> igge: try reinstalling it and then purging
[21:12] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: wait to give it a try
[21:13] <mozog> m4jkl i found driver to that wifi for linux, but there are so many files and i dont know how to install it
[21:13] <igge> usser: trying to follow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3768914&postcount=60
[21:13] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: ok.. good luck
[21:13] <cyphr> Hello 'bunters. Could someone point me to a good "howto" on (re)compiling drivers? I need to replace stock madwifi drivers with the madwifi-ng versions and I'm not sure where to start.
[21:13] <tanath> Joeb454: i also don't get a window manager anymore. first error in .xsession-errors is this:
[21:13] <igge> but it went wrong somehow.. want to remove it and try again..
[21:13] <tanath> Joeb454: Refusing to initialize GTK+.
[21:13] <tanath> Joeb454: well, after a warning about it running setuid
[21:13] <GSF1200S> tanath: hold on.. reading..
[21:14] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: dpkg-reconfigure Command not found
[21:14] <joe_> hey everyone, I have a problem I can't seem to solve.  If I leave my computer alone I always come back to a black screen and have to restart, and whenever i restart and login my wallpaper will popup but I wont have any icons or taskbar
[21:14] <Joeb454> tanath, do you get any form of display, or are you at a tty? (full screen terminal)
[21:14] <Joeb454> joe_, do you have desktop effects enabled?
[21:14] <tanath> Joeb454: i'm on tty1 right now. x is sitting at the login screen where it keeps ending up :P
[21:14] <joe_> Joeb454, yes
[21:15] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: ehhh
[21:15] <GSF1200S> hold on...
[21:15] <joe_> Joeb454, do you think it might be a compiz problem?
[21:15] <Joeb454> joe_, yeah try disabling desktop effects and see if the problem persists
[21:15] <usser> igge: hm don't really know what to suggest, sorry
[21:15] <SimplySeth> well thanks to ubuntu not havin' an initrd .. I hosed my system .. yay
[21:15] <SimplySeth> mkinitrd*
[21:15] <m4jkl> mozog should you write me on icq? 200248828
[21:16] <Joeb454> brb
[21:16] <igge> usser: ok thx anyway.. it's wierd.. can't i just tell the system "this package is not installed"?
[21:16] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: sudo apt-get install dpkg
[21:16] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: ok the command work
[21:16] <mozog> m4jkl ok
[21:17] <spaghetti_knife> Can anyone pastebin a working sources.list file? I think I fubared mine badl.
[21:17] <GSF1200S> tanath: does it happen if you log in as root?
[21:17] <spaghetti_knife> *badly.
[21:17] <Kopfgeldjaeger> anybody playing counterstrike here=
[21:17] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: try:
[21:17] <tanath> GSF1200S: logging in as root is disabled
[21:17] <GSF1200S> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:17] <zetheroo> spaghetti_knife: if you tell me where is it then I can get it to you
[21:18] <GSF1200S> tanath: can you enable it just to see if you still have the crash
[21:18] <SimplySeth> spaghetti_knife: what OS are you running ?
[21:18] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: did the reconfigure command work?
[21:18] <spaghetti_knife> /etc/apt/sources.list, zetheroo. And SimplySeth, I'm running Gutsy.
[21:18] <spaghetti_knife> Yes, a Gutsy sources.list
[21:18] <tanath> GSF1200S: erm, not sure how
[21:18] <GSF1200S> tanath: ehhh..
[21:19] <GSF1200S> tanath: im on KDE, so im a little unsure how to do it in gnome
[21:19] <Joeb454> what needs doing in gnome GSF1200S
[21:19] <SimplySeth> spaghetti_knife: http://pastebin.com/d37a1b654
[21:19] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: yes, thanks a lot. and now i must enabled it again right?
[21:19] <tanath> GSF1200S: i suppose i could login and try to enable it before it crashes :/
[21:19] <zetheroo> spaghetti_knife:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58001/
[21:19] <GSF1200S> joeb454: tell tananth how to login in root
[21:20] <Joeb454> tanath, you're at a terminal right?
[21:20] <zetheroo> spaghetti_knife: that's mine.... I dunno if its any help
[21:20] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: run the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command again
[21:20] <tanath> Joeb454: he wants me to try to login to x as root, but it's disabled
[21:20] <Joeb454> sudo -i
[21:20] <GSF1200S> select your resolution and the vesa drivers
[21:20] <Joeb454> then input your user password
[21:20] <spaghetti_knife> zetheroo and SimplySeth: do you both use gutsy?
[21:20] <tanath> Joeb454: ^
[21:20] <zetheroo> spaghetti_knife: yes I do
[21:20] <Joeb454> sudo is disabled?
[21:21] <SimplySeth> spaghetti_knife: a form of gutsy .. yes
[21:21] <tanath> Joeb454: no, logging into X as root is disabled
[21:21] <Joeb454> ah right...
[21:21] <AtomicSpark> I am about to redo one of my servers with Ubuntu, it has 2 GB of ram. Is there any reason I would want the 64 bit version?
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> SimplySeth, What FORM of gutsy?
[21:21] <psychoman> how do you unmount an ISO that you mounted
[21:21] <tanath> Joeb454: here's a thought... 'sudo startx'?
[21:21] <SimplySeth> Jack_Sparrow: Ubuntu Studio
[21:21] <spaghetti_knife> Thank you both very much, zetheroo and SimplySeth.
[21:22] <zetheroo> psychoman: right click on it and Unmount
[21:22] <tanath> Joeb454: er, nvm. x autorestarts, and i dunno how to stop that
[21:22] <Joeb454> tanath, that'll just start x with root privileges
[21:22] <AstorZZZ> i've got 20gb, what partitions i need? 2gb swap, 9gb for ubuntu and 9gb for home?
[21:22] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: did the reconfigure command allow you to select your resolution and vesa drivers?
[21:22] <zetheroo> spaghetti_knife: no worries
[21:22] <AstorZZZ> what are the default partitions for ubuntu linux
[21:22] <AstorZZZ> and ratios
[21:22] <Jack_Sparrow> SimplySeth, They have a channel of their own to help with your problems
[21:22] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: no didnt allo to select my resolution
[21:23] <ar1s_> only vesa drivers
[21:23] <tanath> Joeb454: i think my comp is dying :/
[21:23] <AstorZZZ> is it safe to resize ntfs partition with gparted?
[21:23] <Joeb454> tanath, you could try reconfiguring X like GSF1200S told arls_ to do...
[21:23] <psychoman> I did a no no and overwrite a folder that was used on my other account... it doesn't give me the unmount option when i right click it
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ar1s_, MAx vesa res is 1024x768
[21:23] <coffeeguy> hello :) where do i get codecs for gutsy?
[21:23] <SimplySeth> Jack_Sparrow: oh .. my laptops are running Studio .. my Mini-ITX *WAS* running Xubuntu
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[21:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:23] <psychoman> i can't even delete it
[21:23] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: well, lets try to start X and see if it works
[21:23] <coffeeguy> thanks =)
[21:23] <Joeb454> coffeeguy, open a terminal and run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:23] <tanath> Joeb454: no way. took me forever to get it configured right. trust me, xorg.conf is fine
[21:23] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:23] <tanath> Joeb454: haven't touched it in like a year :P
[21:23] <coffeeguy> oh bonus thank You :)
[21:24] <Joeb454> no worries :)
[21:24] <ryanzec> I am trying to enable the restricted driver for my nvidia 8600 and when i goto the retricted driver window and enable for the nvidia one it brings up a window that says "the software source for the package nvidia-glx-new in not enabled.  how do i enable my nvidia graphics restrcited drivers?
[21:24] <tanath> Joeb454: it has stuff for my extra mouse buttons and everything
[21:24] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: btw...what driver to select? i have ati radeon x1300
[21:24] <Joeb454> tanath, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[21:24] <Joeb454> back it up
[21:24] <GSF1200S> tanath: how about trying to create a new user account
[21:24] <tanath> Joeb454: dude, trust me. there's nothing wrong with it
[21:24] <GSF1200S> ar1s:_ vesa!
[21:24] <ar1s_> k
[21:25] <GSF1200S> were just trying to get you back to X
[21:25] <GSF1200S> then well get your 3d drivers installed ;)
[21:25] <tanath> GSF1200S: er, actually, i've already done that for other troubleshooting... now to remember the password :/
[21:25] <psychoman> how do you unmount via command line?
[21:25] <GSF1200S> haha
[21:25] <spaghetti_knife> SimplySeth: what's your form of gutsy?
[21:25] <Joeb454> psychoman, sudo umount /media/<name>
[21:25] <Joeb454> I thin
[21:25] <Joeb454> k
[21:25] <GSF1200S> A buddy of mine had a similar problem to you tanath- only it kicked him out immediately
[21:26] <zetheroo> tanath: whats going on man?
[21:26] <tanath> GSF1200S: i've had that too, but generally x logs the error, and it's fixable
[21:26] <psychoman> tyvm
[21:26] <GSF1200S> tanath: root had no issues, and a new user had no issues either- must have screwed config up
[21:26] <tanath> i'll check it
[21:27] <GSF1200S> tanath: i was thinking to chown your user folder, but thats your call
[21:27] <AstorZZZ> what are ubuntu default partitions and their ratios?
[21:27] <tanath> Joeb454, GSF1200S, no my xorg.conf is as it should be
[21:27] <zetheroo> anyone use the IdeaPad here?
[21:27] <AstorZZZ> should i choose ext2 or ext3?
[21:27] <Itaku> i need to install gcc and g++ using apt-get but i dont have the cd how do i fix that?
[21:27] <AstorZZZ> which one's faster?
[21:27] <tanath> GSF1200S: chown my home dir? uh, wouldn't that be a very bad idea?
[21:27] <GSF1200S> ar1s: update
[21:27] <GSF1200S> haha, it could be...
[21:28] <GSF1200S> it worked for my friend
[21:28] <GSF1200S> but
[21:28] <bekim> hi all
[21:28] <Itaku> i need to install gcc and g++ using apt-get but i dont have the cd how do i fix that?
[21:28] <GSF1200S> I wouldnt recommend it- I wouldnt do it- id just create a new user account
[21:28] <AstorZZZ> Itaku: system->software sources
[21:28] <tanath> GSF1200S: i wouldn't think that would work anyway
[21:28] <Joeb454> AstorZZZ, I use ext3
[21:28] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: i have successfull loged in gui
[21:28] <zetheroo> Itaku: internet?
[21:28] <AtomicSpark> Itaku: i always remove the cd from that list. i hate it asking for it every time.
[21:28] <Joeb454> some would argue against using it
[21:28] <tanath> GSF1200S: i'm still trying to remember the password
[21:28] <AstorZZZ> right there is installable from cd/dvd checkbox
[21:29] <ph0rensic> hello
[21:29] <AstorZZZ> Joeb454: arguments against?
[21:29] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: but now in the edges of the screen there are some white dots and desktop visual effects not working
[21:29] <tanath> Joeb454: know how to change it with sudo?
[21:29] <Jack_Sparrow> AstorZZZ, There is no default partition size .. most use ext3 because of journaling.. whatever that is
[21:29] <tanath> i forget
[21:29] <GSF1200S> ar1s_:thats cool- we havent installed your drivers yet...
[21:29] <AtomicSpark> AstorZZZ: ext3 will make your system heathier. it can auto repair itself. the perfomance difference of a non-journaling system is marginal.
[21:30] <AstorZZZ> well, if i freed 20gb space from one of my ntfs harddrives
[21:30] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: aha...:D can you guide me through drivers installation? btw...i have enable the driver in restricted devices
[21:30] <AtomicSpark> journaling keeps track of what you are doing. basically if a file or a task doesn't complete fully, it will back itself out so its not half-done.
[21:30] <AstorZZZ> how do i partition 20gb harddrive for ubuntu?
[21:30] <Joeb454> !ext3 | AstorZZZ
[21:30] <AstorZZZ> 2gb ram = 2gb swap disk
[21:30] <ubotu> AstorZZZ: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[21:30] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: when did you enable the driver?
[21:30] <Joeb454> AstorZZZ, other than that i don't know :P
[21:30] <AstorZZZ> what else?
[21:31] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: no wrong i havent enable the driver.
[21:31] <tanath> Joeb454: do you know how to change a user's passwd with sudo?
[21:31] <AstorZZZ> usr=9gb home=9gb swap=2gb?
[21:31] <tanath> Joeb454: that is, a different user
[21:31] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: cool, try enabling via the restricted manager
[21:31] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: ok...
[21:31] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: it will prompt you to reboot
[21:32] <AstorZZZ> recommendations on partitioning a 20gb harddrive for ubuntu?
[21:32] <Joeb454> tanath, try running passwd --help
[21:32] <Joeb454> I've never done it through a terminal
[21:32] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: why did you uncheck the restricted driver in the first place- was it giving you probs?
[21:32] <ghkl> I have a Dell Inspiron 1525 and my wifi doesn't work. Ubuntu doesn't recognize my internal wifi card Dell Wireless 1395. Any ideas?
[21:33] <AstorZZZ> i'm running a live user session on my desktop pc, screen is pretty blury
[21:33] <tanath> Joeb454: no help
[21:33] <AstorZZZ> and dual screen setup isnt working yet
[21:33] <Joeb454> hmm...I don't know then
[21:33] <Flare183> How can i fix this: http://www.easyvmx.com/
[21:33] <Flare183> oops
[21:33] <l815> how do I enable s-video to display to the tv?
[21:33] <SimplySeth> ghkl: ewww .. I'm glad I choose the Intel Wifi
[21:33] <Flare183> How can I fix this: http://imagebin.ca/view/FTvNeBn.html
[21:33] <Joeb454> AstorZZZ, for dual screen support I think you need to install some drivers and other stuff
[21:34] <ghkl> SimplySeth, I don't think I could chose qnother one
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead
[21:34] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[21:34] <GSF1200S> tanath: sorry man.. only thing I can suggest is a new user account or a different DE: ive had kio errors in KDE before, although it never kicked me out
[21:34] <Joeb454> ghkl, does Ubuntu know there's a card there?
[21:34] <Joeb454> whether it's dell or not
[21:34] <l815> how do I enable s-video to display to the tv?
[21:34] <GSF1200S> tanath: sorry thats all I can do at this point...
[21:34] <ghkl> Joeb454, How cqn I find out if it knows?
[21:34] <tanath> GSF1200S: i don't think it'd the DE..
[21:35] <Lifeisfunny>  <----- a partially happy camper.
[21:35] <tanath> GSF1200S: though i suppose it might be
[21:35] <Joeb454> ghkl, lshw from a terminal
[21:35] <tanath> GSF1200S: gnome is having issues now
[21:35] <Bax> when I make this input in the terminal
[21:35] <Bax>  pkg-config --cflags --libs plplotd-f77
[21:35] <GSF1200S> try fluxbox or something light, just to see
[21:35] <Joeb454> l815, please be patient when asking questions :) I'm sure you can see it's a busy channel
[21:35] <GSF1200S> you can remove it later
[21:35] <joe_> is anyone using hardy heron yet? is it stable yet?
[21:35] <Bax> then I get this output
[21:35] <Bax> -I/usr/local/include/plplot  -L/usr/local/lib -lplplotf77d -lplplotf77cd -lplplotd -lcsirocsa -lm -lqhull -ldl -lcsironn -lz -lfreetype
[21:35] <Bax> what does that mean?
[21:35] <Joeb454> joe_, I don't think it's stable enough to use an a mission critical machine just yet :)
[21:35] <l815> okay sorry :)
[21:35] <Joeb454> !flood | bax
[21:36] <ubotu> bax: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[21:36] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:36] <AstorZZZ> so i red - i need a swap partition, a boot partition, and partition for files (home and usr)
[21:36] <AstorZZZ> swap partition is going to be 2gb
[21:36] <Joeb454> l815, no worries, what video card do you have?
[21:36] <ghkl> Joeb454, and now? Where in that output can I find my wifi-card?
[21:36] <AstorZZZ> how large boot partition should be?
[21:36] <AstorZZZ> did i miss something?
[21:36] <SimplySeth> AstorZZZ: 100 MB is still kinda big
[21:36] <l815> Joeb454, intel gm965
[21:36] <Joeb454> ghkl paste the output into pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[21:37] <Bax> Joeb454: does that mean I'm getting no advice?
[21:37] <SimplySeth> AstorZZZ: for /boot
[21:37] <Joeb454> Bax, no it's just advice for the future
[21:37] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: its working again. i have uncheck it because i was trying to play Unreal Tournament 2004 and was a problem with video drivers
[21:37] <ghkl> Joeb454, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58003/
[21:37] <SimplySeth> AstorZZZ: so 100MB will do fine for /boot and you don't really need a seperate /home but its nice to have :)
[21:38] <DRebellion> Bax, what are you trying to do? compile software?
[21:38] <aghachi> can some1 pm their settings for compiz cube rotation.. like binded keys and enabled plugins.. mine dosent zoom out to rotate it just rotates on the desktop
[21:38] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: native install or wine?
[21:38] <[T]ank> how do i make it so that when ubuntu starts up i am not num locked? I have to hitctrl+shift+alt+numlock to turn it off whenever i boot up
[21:38] <Joeb454> AstorZZZ, you say you have 2GB ram? if so you probably won't need a swap partition
[21:38] <Jack_Sparrow> AstorZZZ, If you only have 20 gig for ubuntu.. use 2 gig swap 8 gig /  root and 10 gig /home
[21:38] <aghachi> sorry i saw the answer u gave me tanath
[21:38] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: you need video drivers to play UT2K4 :)
[21:38] <aghachi> nvm
[21:38] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: normal install i have the linux edition
[21:38] <igge> what can i do if i want to remove a package but the remove scripts have somehow been lost?
[21:38] <Joeb454> also you can get Ubuntu to auto partition for you AstorZZZ
[21:38] <Bax> DRebellion: I'm trying to get an xwin package to config with a plplot package, but I'm inexperienced with configuring
[21:38] <Lifeisfunny> I did it ... I got two drives on my gig flash stick,  I think the next step is to claim ownership and get the root / off it but I'm lost there.
[21:39] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: what you mean i need video drivers? not the same with graphic card drivers?
[21:39] <DRebellion> igge, reinstall it first
[21:39] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: a) where did you get it, because I cant find the native version 2) what problem were you having
[21:39] <tanath> GSF1200S, Joeb454, so far so good in icewm (with regular user)
[21:39] <Bax> DRebellion: I really just want to know if my output is actually prompting me to give a more specific command
[21:39] <jk_> do u get viruses from watching porn ?
[21:39] <tanath> GSF1200S, Joeb454, so i guess it's a gnome thing after all
[21:39] <Joeb454> yeah probably
[21:40] <GSF1200S> tanath: ahh.. see this is why I was thinking permissions..
[21:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus | jk_,
[21:40] <ubotu> jk_,: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[21:40] <tanath> GSF1200S, Joeb454, when logging in, i have no WM at first.
[21:40] <Joeb454> ghkl, I don't think Ubuntu see's your card at all
[21:40] <Joeb454> it does see the wired input though :)
[21:40] <igge> DRebellion: hm how do I do that? dpkg --install <file> tries to remove the old one first
[21:40] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: yes, thats correct- the restricted manager governs your graphics drivers when used ;)
[21:40] <ghkl> Joeb454, and that meens?
[21:41] <igge> DRebellion: reinstalling it is exactly what I want actually.. :)
[21:41] <tanath> GSF1200S, Joeb454, well, this started after the hard crash where even the kernel froze...
[21:41] <GSF1200S> tanath: ahh.. you dont use gdm or anything- just startx from the cli, yeah?
[21:41] <tanath> GSF1200S: no, i use gdm
[21:41] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change! thats the error
[21:41] <psychoman> what file is it that shows UID and such?
[21:41] <tanath> GSF1200S: i'm just using a tty since i couldn't stay logged into x
[21:41] <GSF1200S> tanath: doing what, and when? (did it crash)
[21:41] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: and Either GL_EXT_bgra or glDrawRangeElements not supported- bailing out.
[21:42] <Joeb454> ghkl, that means I'll have to do some more searching for a dell wireless 1325 (is that what you have?)
[21:42] <psychoman> like list of users and there UID GIDs PIDs
[21:42] <AstorZZZ> how can i make sure swap partition is in outer cylinders?
[21:42] <tanath> GSF1200S: don't remember. it's been freezing periodically, but usually the REISUB thing works. this time it didn't
[21:42] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: ehh, I cant help you there- I dont have the native version to play with to help you :(
[21:42] <Lifeisfunny> psychoman,           vol_id /dev/sdb | grep UUID
[21:42] <AstorZZZ> is it possible with gparted?
[21:42] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: its ok thanks a lot for the help
[21:42] <Lifeisfunny> psychoman, sdb being a usb stick
[21:42] <GSF1200S> tanath: linux freezing periodically?
[21:43] <tanath> GSF1200S: yea
[21:43] <ghkl> Joeb454, Wireless Dell (802.b/g) Mini Card for European - Celeron Bases
[21:43] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: please help me back! where did you get UT2K4 ;)
[21:43] <tanath> GSF1200S: i believe it's because my hard drives are dying
[21:43] <GSF1200S> tanath: ehh
[21:43] <Lifeisfunny> psychoman, check your g-partitioner for the device and it's heading there
[21:43] <psychoman> no its a file
[21:43] <psychoman> shows all the users and groups
[21:43] <psychoman> like user accounts
[21:43] <ghkl> Joeb454, Does my lspci help you?
[21:43] <tanath> GSF1200S: the one drive moreso than the other, so i've been keeping it unmuonted
[21:44] <psychoman> list there's user id aka 1000 and
[21:44] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: from a friend is the DVD edition 6cd in one dvd with linux support
[21:44] <psychoman> even all the process that are part of their own group and such
[21:44] <GSF1200S> ar1s_: the one that has every UT game, right?
[21:45] <ar1s_> GSF1200S: no no only the 2004 edition
[21:45] <jk_> can anyone help me install flash for youtube cuz i cant watch videos
[21:45] <GSF1200S> ahh.. ok- man having a hard time finding it
[21:45] <tanath> jk_: in add/remove, search 'ubuntu restricted' install that
[21:45] <AstorZZZ> what's the advantage of having root and usr on a different partition? (on a 20gb freespace)
[21:45] <Lifeisfunny> system/admin/user and groups
[21:45] <AstorZZZ> what's the filesystem on a boot partition?
[21:45] <psychoman> found it cat /etc/group
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[21:46] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:46] <genjix> about flash... why has it been so crappy lately>
[21:46] <genjix> ?
[21:46] <mlgx> Hi all !
[21:46] <GSF1200S> mlgx: hi
[21:46] <zamarronstein> hi mlgx
[21:46] <genjix> crashing about everywhere like a sick woman
[21:46] <ConstyXIV> genjix: do you have the update repos enabled?
[21:47] <gravemind> hey how do I make a command repeat itself
[21:47] <jnicklas> I have software raid setup in a raid 1 config. When I reboot with only one disk, it hangs shortly after loading grub, any ideas?
[21:47] <genjix> ConstyXIV: yeah i think so
[21:47] <gravemind> like, start again after it finishes
[21:47] <tanath> gravemind: you could use a for loop
[21:47] <mlgx> Hi, I'm looking for a mahjongg game (not the solitaire one but the real chinese mahjongg) under GNU/linux but I did not find anything, do you have any link or idea about how to find one  please ?
[21:48] <gravemind> tanath: so make a bash script?
[21:48] <tanath> gravemind: you can do it as a command
[21:48] <DRebellion> genjix, did you use gnash or flashplugin-nonfree?
[21:48] <gravemind> "for"
[21:48] <DRebellion> gravemind, you don't have to put it in a script
[21:48] <m-lund> Anyone who knows if there will be more focus on the Kolab server in Ubuntu?
[21:48] <tanath> gravemind: i forget the exact syntax, but the different parts are seperated by ;
[21:48] <genjix> nonfree
[21:48] <gravemind> ok
[21:48] <DRebellion> gravemind, also, if you want it to repeat forever, use a while loop
[21:48] <genjix> i thought this was a commonly known problem?
[21:49] <ConstyXIV> genjix: go to Software Sources (in system->admin), go to the updates tab, and make sure the "gutsy-security" and "gutsy-updates" are on
[21:49] <jk_> can anyone help me install flash please
[21:49] <gravemind> yeah I want to use a while loop
[21:49] <DRebellion> genjix, hmm... i have had no problems with flash
[21:49] <genjix> really?
[21:49] <gravemind> but how do you do that with bash
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jk_, PLease see the link from ubotu
[21:49] <genjix> what browser do you use?
[21:49] <allan>  cd
[21:49] <DRebellion> genjix, firefox
[21:49] <genjix> ConstyXIV: yep got them both
[21:49] <mlgx> no idea ?
[21:50] <genjix> it like hangs sometimes and i have to kill the process for the browser (firefox and konqueror)
[21:50] <jnicklas> any software raid wizzes here?
[21:50] <jk_> how do i Enable the Multiverse repository?
[21:51] <gravemind> "while true; do timidity /home/phix/Desktop/chip/CHIP01.MID" ?
[21:51] <gravemind> I need a done at the end
[21:51] <psychoman> if there a way to change the owner of a directory and everything in the directory with one command?
[21:51] <gravemind> while true; do; timidity /home/phix/Desktop/chip/CHIP01.MID; done"
[21:52] <beautifulsnow> ::QUESTION:: This is the fifth time I install UbuntuStudio 7.10. When I log in for the first time, my mouse media buttons work PERFECT. Then ofcourse I do the system updates it asks me to, reboot as it asks me to, I log in again and my mouse media buttons DONT work. Pleeaaaasse someone help, I've spent all of yesterday night and today working on this and it's always the same thing >_>
[21:52] <DRebellion> gravemind, no, its:  while true; do timidity /home/phix/Desktop/chip/CHIP01.MID; done
[21:52] <sigma_> psychoman: chown user:group *
[21:52] <gravemind> thanks!
[21:52] <Xore> has sun-java[56]-jdk been removed from apt?
[21:52] <Kalamansi> hello where to download a stable ubuntu server and deskstop?
[21:52] <ironfoot> Hi I could use some help in oop, is there someone who could me solve a certain problem i'm having ? Here is the two scripts I'm using=>http://rafb.net/p/enhhfi98.html; =>http://rafb.net/p/XR96k788.html
[21:52] <rene_> i can open new X in other Xserver ?
[21:53] <bastid_raZor> Kalamansi; releases.ubuntu.com
[21:53] <DRebellion> !download | Kalamansi
[21:53] <ubotu> Kalamansi: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[21:53] <Xore> i'm running a 7.04 install, and they no longer appear in the repositories. i don't want to use gcj. do i need to install sun's jdk manually or is it in another repository somewhere?
[21:53] <beautifulsnow> I guess it's too difficult to search google for "download ubuntu" uh.
[21:53] <DRebellion> beautifulsnow, have you tested rebooting without updating?
[21:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[21:54] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[21:54] <beautifulsnow> DRebellion, you mean rebooting right after I login for the first time? Why would I do that? Yes, I logged in a few times before doing updates, the first time that I installed Ubuntu, and yes, the mouse stayed working
[21:55] <Kalamansi> hello what is the stable ubutu desktop and stable server ubuntu? for new pc
[21:55] <jk_> how do i configure the ubuntu firewall?
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> beautifulsnow, You do understand that ubuntu studio is not supported here.
[21:55] <psychoman> say I need to get an account to take over its old home folder.... i deleted the account but created one exactly the same but it has a different UID and GID.... I got the UID and GID of the new one.... is there a way to make that home folder work.... cuz I can't delete the existing home folder and it won't let me log in because the new account might have the same name but different UID
[21:55] <DRebellion> beautifulsnow, to see if it is rebooting and not updating that breaks your mouse
[21:55] <maarten_> use 7.10 kalamansi
[21:56] <DRebellion> Kalamansi, 1.70 gutsy gibbon
[21:56] <Squawk> beautifulsnow, when you say media button, do you mean the middle button on the mouse?
[21:56] <DRebellion> Kalamansi, 1.70 gutsy gibbon
[21:56] <beautifulsnow> Jack_Sparrow, no I had no idea, sorry about that... I figured they all use the same kernels and packages (right?), and I installed the base system only, so I thought I'd come here for help
[21:56] <Anthony_Sch> Hello! Can you help me with a little problem. I can simply take any window and drag it ot other workspace with my mouse, but only if spesial effects in desktop are ON. Can you suggest, is there a way to drag a window with effects OFF? And also, can I somehow change workspaces just by moving my mouse to the left or right border of the current workspace? Thanks in advance!
[21:56] <DRebellion> Kalamansi, 7.10 gutsy gibbon sorry :P
[21:56] <david> Kalamansi: 6.06 or 7.04
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> beautifulsnow, There are many differences...
[21:57] <maarten_> 7:10
[21:57] <beautifulsnow> Squawk: I mean the Volume Up/Down, Next/Previous, Play/Pause
[21:57] <Xore> Jack_Sparrow: thanks. it seems i was missing a repository
[21:57] <beautifulsnow> Jack_Sparrow, would you recomend I use the normal Ubuntu instead? (I had MUCH trouble installing Pidgin in Ubuntu; U.Studio comes with it so thats why Im using it)
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Xore, glad to hear you got it going
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> beautifulsnow, gutsy comes with pidgin.
[21:58] <Squawk> beautifulsnow, oh miles beyond me, I just have a mouse with 3 buttons. But as an idea, have a look in xorg.conf, and also make sure that the module for your mouse has been loaded (you need to know a bit about the kernel). Beyond that it would be a guess
[21:58] <Kalamansi> what is the difference betwen ubuntu desktop/server, xubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu? im really confused...thanks
[21:58] <david> use the site Kalamansi
[21:58] <beautifulsnow> Squawk: I have no idea what should be loaded to make it work ;__; but thats my fault I guess
[21:58] <david> visit ubuntu
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> beautifulsnow, if you must have the latest pidgin, go to getdeb and get it ready to go for gutsy or feisty
[21:59] <demonspork> how do I set the default runlevel of ubuntu? I want it to boot up in init 4, rather than 5
[21:59] <maarten_> well kalamansi, just use ubuntu
[21:59] <beautifulsnow> Jack_Sparrow: I dont care if it's the latest, I just want to be able to use it ;p
[21:59] <Squawk> beautifulsnow, can you tell me what your mouse is?
[21:59] <maarten_> server version is for text based console
[21:59] <Flannel> Kalamansi: The difference is simply the default packages installed.
[21:59] <beautifulsnow> Jack_Sparrow: I also tried installing from getdeb on regular ubuntu, and I was unable to install it (pidgin)
[21:59] <Flannel> Kalamansi: once installed, you can switch between them at will
[21:59] <beautifulsnow> Squawk: It's a Logitech MediaPlay
[22:00] <maarten_> kalamansi, i used kubuntu first, kde based
[22:00] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: ubuntu desktop: uses gnome desktop manager. ubuntu server: comes with server packages and no GUI desktop.  xubuntu: uses the xfce4 desktop manager. kubuntu: uses the KDE desktop manager
[22:00] <maarten_> kalamansi, but gnome based is easier
[22:00] <genbuntu> Hi, While using nessus my system just restarted the x-window and gave the error "natilus can't be used due to unexpected error... " . But it's been running fine . Wonder what caused that restart?
[22:00] <Lifeisfunny> What is a lost+found folder doing on my USB Flashstick device?
[22:01] <rofl> in http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/gutsy/sound/ there is a package called "alsa-lib", but i cannot fetch it with apt-get , it's not existing. how can i get  it ?
[22:01] <Squawk> beautifulsnow, have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239942
[22:01] <beautifulsnow> Lifeisfunny: If any files become damaged or SOMEHOW lost, you might be able to recover them from that folder, thats why its there
[22:01] <beautifulsnow> Squawk: Thanks, but I've tried googling myself
[22:02] <Lifeisfunny> beautifulsnow, does it come as a result of formating the drive to ext2?
[22:02] <Wyvern|> Hi, I've just changed the motherboard (to one with nforce 570) on my ubuntu box, but the network card isn't detected on my old installation. It works fine when booting with livecd, tho. Any quick way to get ubuntu to autodetect it?
[22:02] <beautifulsnow> Lifeisfunny: yes, and ext3 as well I believe
[22:02] <beautifulsnow> Lifeisfunny: It's a good thing :-)
[22:02] <Lifeisfunny> I see
[22:02] <basti> are there any tools/scripts which can handle rsdf or ccf files?
[22:03] <Kalamansi> thank you for the brief explanation :)
[22:03] <prince_jammys> !DM
[22:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:04] <prince_jammys> !desktop
[22:04] <ubotu> A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors
[22:04] <chuy_max> hi, vkeybd application doesn't work, I can hit the keys but there is no sound, any ideas?
[22:05] <beautifulsnow> Squawk: I just don't understand why I should have to go through those difficult steps when I had it working out of the box :p
[22:05] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: you can install more than one desktop manager and see which you like best
[22:05] <Lifeisfunny> how do I keep the nautilus windows from coming open when a flash stick mounts?
[22:05] <Kalamansi> and how to do that prince_jammys ?
[22:05] <Hamled> does the kernel that comes with gutsy desktop not include framebuffer (like vesafb) modules?
[22:06] <gravemind> what command kills while loops?
[22:06] <gravemind> besides closing
[22:06] <beautifulsnow> in command line?
[22:06] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: let's say you installed ubuntu (which uses gnome).  you can then also install kubuntu-desktop (which uses KDE) and have both on your computer. you can then select which desktop environment when you log in.
[22:07] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: they just have a different
[22:07] <SimplySeth> !wireless
[22:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:07] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: "look and feel", but all programs should run in either
[22:07] <Kalamansi> prince_jammys: how about if i install ubuntu 7.10 desktop? how to install desktop xubuntu,kubuntu and edubuntu? thanks
[22:07] <ed1t> i have an remote ubuntu box im connecting to.....im entering the password but its not working, i also have access to the web console and it works fine from there
[22:08] <ed1t> i think its public keys issues
[22:08] <beautifulsnow> Kalamansi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop edubuntu-desktop
[22:08] <Wyvern|> does the Ubuntu kernel include most driver modules, or would you have to recompile it?
[22:08] <ripper> man that took fovever to figure out
[22:08] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: i think for kubuntu you just do:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:08] <SimplySeth> !wifi compatibility
[22:08] <stevecasper> hey....i just upgraded to feisty fawn...keep getting an error "'deb' is not known on line 34 in source list/etc/apt/sources.list" any1 know how to get rid of this error?
[22:08] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: yeah you can do what beautifulsnow said if you want them all
[22:09] <Flannel> stevecasper: pastebin your sources.list, and we'll take a look
[22:09] <stevecasper> so when u say pastebin...u meen exactly what?
[22:09] <Flannel> !paste | stevecasper
[22:09] <ubotu> stevecasper: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:09] <Flannel> stevecasper: copy the file, paste it at that website, hit submit, come back with the URL for us to view it
[22:09] <ed1t> can anyone help me figure out this public key issue? i can log in from web console fine and when i try to ssh from my laptop, it says invalid password
[22:10] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: they each come with their own programs too, so you'll have a ton of stuff in the menus, which you can then edit for each separate desktop.  i would install one at a time and see
[22:10] <stevecasper> sure....one sec
[22:10] <Antkin> hello everyone
[22:11] <hendrixski> I'm getting some strange errors from trying to make a multimedia virtual appliance with Ubuntu JeOS.  If anybody can take a look and give some ideas, I would really appreciate it.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4436079#post4436079   Thanks
[22:11] <Kalamansi> thanks prince_jammys. if im using gigabyte o will choose Intel x86 right?
[22:11] <Antkin> This is my first time on IRC
[22:12] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: i don't know
[22:12] <hendrixski> Antkin, welcome :-)
[22:12] <stevecasper> how do i view source.list
[22:12] <phubar> i have nvidia 169.09 drivers installed, i am debugging an openGL app, can I simply go and enable the 'restricted' nvidia driver to test if that might be the problem? and then be able to revert to my 169.09 without problems?
[22:12] <Flannel> stevecasper: alt-f2 then: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, then hit enter
[22:12] <Hamled> does the kernel that comes with gutsy desktop not include framebuffer (like vesafb) modules?
[22:12] <hendrixski> stevecasper, open it with a text editor,  it's located at /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:13] <Kalamansi> thanks prince_jammys. if im using gigabyte i will choose Intel x86 right?
[22:13] <napsy_> Hi. Is there a program for ubuntu for public computers?
[22:13] <rilo> napsy_: what?
[22:13] <prince_jammys> Kalamansi: i don't know the answer to that one, sorry
[22:13] <Antkin> hendrixsk thank you
[22:13] <hendrixski> napsy_, what do you mean by public?  like in a library?
[22:13] <napsy_> computers in librtary etc.
[22:13] <napsy_> library*
[22:14] <Flannel> napsy_: What do you mean?
[22:14] <Flannel> napsy_: by program, that is.  Not about public libraries
[22:14] <napsy_> reseting the settings after restart, restricting desktop functionality
[22:14] <hendrixski> Antkin, :-)  if you're using xchat.  you can type in the begining of someones name and hit tab, and it completes it (or gives you a list)  for example try typing  hendri<TAB> :-)
[22:14] <hendrixski> Antkin, and then I see your comment highlighted in red
[22:15] <Flannel> napsy_: Well, restricting functionality is just giving them a regular user, and you can tweak it hwoever you'd like.  As for redoing settings, you can whip up a script to reset their homedir each time they login, if one doesn't already exist.
[22:15] <Antkin> henrixski thank you I'm using Chatzilla
[22:15] <viv145> hola a todos
[22:15] <beautifulsnow> hendrix<TAB>  its not working X_x ... jk ;)
[22:15] <napsy_> Flannel: ok
[22:15] <phubar> i have nvidia 169.09 drivers installed, i am debugging an openGL app, can I simply go and enable the 'restricted' nvidia driver to test if that might be the problem? and then be able to revert to my 169.09 without problems? anyone know?
[22:15] <beautifulsnow> hola viv como estas? #ubuntu-es  tiene ayuda en espanol :)
[22:15] <viv145> que mas guey
[22:16] <prince_jammys> !es | viv145
[22:16] <ubotu> viv145: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:16] <carnegie> how can i update my php version 4.4.6 to php 5.x?
[22:16] <D-Unit> i have a game in .bat format...how do i run it?
[22:16] <hendrixski> beautifulsnow, lol   I would die without tab completion... I just assume that all iRC clients have it
[22:16] <Flannel> carnegie: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:16] <D-Unit> i like .bat bcuz u dont need to install
[22:16] <phubar> D-Unit: .bat is a windows batch file
[22:16] <viv145> !es | prince_jammys
[22:16] <ubotu> prince_jammys: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:16] <Flannel> D-Unit: as in a DOS batch file?  Grab DOSBox, see if it works in that.
[22:17] <hendrixski> napsy_, if you want to restrict desktop functionality Linux is the tool for you
[22:17] <D-Unit> Flannel, how do u get DOSBox?
[22:17] <mad_max02> How can I hotplug and mount eSata hdd ????
[22:17] <stevecasper> apparantly  im spamming the pastebin...and spammers are not well liked ....is there a way i can paste in the pastebin withought being hated?
[22:17] <carnegie> Flannel: ubuntu 7.10
[22:17] <D-Unit> phubar, i no
[22:17] <Flannel> D-Unit: its in the repositories.
[22:18] <Flannel> stevecasper: you need to enable javascript
[22:18] <hendrixski> napsy_, you can strip it bare, so that it only does one thing.  For example, right now I'm tinkering with a virtual appliance... so that it only does one thing:  For example have a box that ONLY runs firefox.  that's it..  talk about stripped down
[22:18] <D-Unit> Flannel, sudo apt-get install dosbox?
[22:18] <Flannel> D-Unit: yes.
[22:18] <Flannel> carnegie: How are you using php4 on Gutsy?
[22:18] <napsy_> hendrixski: ok tnx
[22:18] <D-Unit> Flannel, o i put capitals b4 thats y it dint work
[22:18] <Antkin> Hello every body, I have Ubuntu 7.10 and chatzilla
[22:18] <D-Unit> Flannel, how do i use dosbox?
[22:19] <viv145> 414
[22:19] <viv145> 32132
[22:19] <hendrixski> napsy_, plus, it's Linux, so it's UBER secure!  you can put it in a public place and not worry about it being compromised
[22:19] <napsy_> ok
[22:20] <carnegie> Flannel: actually, no clue, i just installed php today through synaptic packet manager, and when i'm on a site which tells me which php version i run and there stands php 4.4.6
[22:20] <viv145> 2132132132132132131321323232
[22:20] <viv145> 2132132132132132131321323232
[22:20] <viv145> 2132132132132132131321323232
[22:20] <viv145> 2132132132132132131321323232
[22:20] <viv145> 2132132132132132131321323232
[22:20] <FloodBot3> viv145: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:20] <hendrixski> could somebody help me out with a multimedia quandry:  It's probably a problem with finding some drivers,  not sure how though:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=712389
[22:20] <prince_jammys> !ops | viv145
[22:20] <ubotu> viv145: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[22:20] <Flannel> D-Unit: Once you've got it setup properly, its just like DOS.  The setup mostly consists of mounting places to drives.  http://dosbox.cvs.sourceforge.net/dosbox/dosbox/README?view=markup  read the first question in the FAQs
[22:21] <nixternal> ok, someone owes me lunch now :)
[22:21]  * Seveas feeds nixternal 
[22:21] <nixternal> hahahaha
[22:21] <mad_max02> How can I hotplug and mount eSata hdd ????
[22:21] <nixternal> of all the people :)
[22:21] <prince_jammys> thank you sir
[22:21] <jpatrick> nixternal: prince_jammys? I'm sure he has cash as prince
[22:21] <Flannel> carnegie: That's impossible.  What site?  I'm not sure how it plans on telling you what php version you're running.
[22:21]  * Seveas forces more food down nixternals throat
[22:21] <stevecasper> ive checked my firefox..says javascript is enabled...is there more to it than that?
[22:21]  * nixternal bursts
[22:21] <D-Unit> Flannel, i use to just double click the file and it use to launch the half life 2 episode 1 and i dint have to install anything like the .exe of the real cd
[22:21]  * Seveas finds a bukkit
[22:21] <nixternal> he is cussing at me now in pm...I love it!
[22:21] <stevecasper> btw...thanks for this help
[22:22] <prince_jammys> jpatrick: nixternal heh. oh yeah i'm swimming in dough
[22:22] <Seveas> nixternal, point him to -ops, don't take all the fun
[22:22] <Flannel> D-Unit: Ah, that would be through wine.
[22:22] <ripper666> ok i finally got this ubuntu 7.10 intalled only took 2 days
[22:22] <Flannel> !wine | D-Unit
[22:22] <ubotu> D-Unit: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:22] <ripper666> now what do i do
[22:22] <carnegie> Flannel: http://phpinfo.modwest.com/ shows me that + my tripod account, tells me that too
[22:23] <ripper666> i would like to learn more
[22:23] <chairmeleon> hey :)
[22:23] <mad_max02> How can I hotplug and mount eSata hdd ????
[22:23] <D-Unit> Flannel, wine runs .bats??
[22:23] <chairmeleon> I'm a little confused about Ubuntu's system requirements
[22:23] <Antkin> >	Well only one greating what a waste of time for a newbie, bye in three minutes if I don't get a reply
[22:24] <hendrixski> chairmeleon, the requirements are that you have a system ... it will run on just about anything... maybe even your toaster
[22:24] <SimplySeth> Antkin: yep .. it can get frusteratin'
[22:24] <chairmeleon> a Debian desktop /w gnome, rhythmbox, networkmanager, firefox e.t.c, runs well in 192 megs of ram
[22:24] <chairmeleon> how come ubuntu has a minimum set on 320mb?
[22:25] <nickthorley> I am using virtualbox and wish to enter a custom resolution - the virtualbox manager says I need to use vboxmanage - is this available on ubuntu
[22:25] <Flannel> chairmeleon: the LiveCD does, not the actual install
[22:25] <Antkin> SimplySetth can you chat with me?
[22:25] <Flannel> carnegie: Is that your tripod account
[22:25] <hendrixski> chairmeleon, we add more services to Ubuntu... you can cut them out
[22:25] <ed1t> what repository do i need to get JDK 5?
[22:25] <Flannel> chairmeleon: to install on less (down to 40mb, I believe) you need to get the Alternate CD
[22:25] <stevecasper> how do you enable javascript? firefox claims its already enabled
[22:25] <ed1t> sun java 5
[22:26] <chairmeleon> flannel: well..the alt. install CD says: installs on systems with less than about 320MB of RAM (although note that low-memory systems may not be able to run a full desktop environment reasonably).
[22:26] <SimplySeth> Antkin: I don't know much
[22:26] <carnegie> Flannel: the link i posted, no
[22:26] <jk_> is there any good shooter game for linux?
[22:26] <Flannel> stevecasper: No, just enabling javascript should work.  Its odd that its giving you spam errors.  Let me grab you another paste bin
[22:26] <SimplySeth> Antkin: what is the issue ?
[22:27] <jk_> does anyone know anyy good shooter or alien game for ubuntu 7.10?
[22:27] <Antkin> SimplySeth I have no issue, I'm new to IRC and want to get started
[22:27] <stevecasper> ok cool.....just tell me what to do and ill do it
[22:27] <hendrixski> !games | jk_
[22:27] <ubotu> jk_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[22:27] <SimplySeth> Antkin: started with .... ?
[22:27] <Bibbie> Anyone ever have a problem with playing .mp3 any player i use will freeze and i have to force quit, but all my sound is working fine....so confused no idea where to start debugging it
[22:27] <dios_mio> jk_, there are flash games you can play on the web :P
[22:27] <Flannel> carnegie: That can't be a Ubuntu system.  What version of Linux are you using?
[22:28] <Flannel> chairmeleon: right.  Whats the problem?
[22:28] <ghkl> Ndiswrapper tells me the driver and hardware of my wireless card are present but when I load the ndiswrapper-module, iwconfig keeps telling me I don't have a wireless connection and my Wirelesse-LED isn't switched on. Any ideas?
[22:28] <ed1t> Flannel: what kind of repository do i need to access the sun jdk 1.5?
[22:28] <Antkin> SimplySeth IRC and Chatzilla
[22:28] <Flannel> !java | ed1t
[22:28] <ubotu> ed1t: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[22:28] <hendrixski> Antkin, if you're registered you can chat with people by typing /msg screen-name      and then only they see it
[22:28] <Flannel> stevecasper: http://pastebin.com/  same thing, paste there, give us the URL
[22:29] <chairmeleon> I just got a bit scared by the memory requirments. I don't lack the memory, but a minimum far above windows XP seemed a bit 'memory hoggish'. Then my question is for those who know, is there any noticeable performance difference between debian and Ubuntu?
[22:29] <The_Linkster> I need help with installing a package in Ubuntu(7.10) with apt-get. The error I get is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58010/
[22:29] <Flannel> chairmeleon: Well, if you're worried, you can always try xubuntu.  But no, it'll do fine on systems with less than 320MB of RAM
[22:29] <jk_> after installing flash youtube stil dont work =(
[22:30] <Antkin> hendrixski do I need to be registered?
[22:30] <carnegie> Flannel: but it is :-) my synaptic says also that i have already installed php 5, but why in the hell does it show me this?
[22:30] <stevecasper> cool it worked this time : http://pastebin.com/m102cb72d
[22:30] <ed1t> Flannel: how do i add multiverse to source.list? i dont have GUI access
[22:30] <Bibbie> having a problem with my sound in linux the driver were working correctly now anytime a sound is played im locking up and required to force quit any ideas?
[22:30] <J-Unit> i need to install windows xp again but if i do itll ruin grub so...is there anything i can do b4 installing xp that will make sure grub stays alive?
[22:30] <ed1t> source-o-matic is down
[22:30] <The_Linkster> I need help with installing a package in Ubuntu(7.10) with apt-get. The error I get is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58010/
[22:31] <chairmeleon> Flannel: well, no, I plan to go for a full desktop, I mean, I've got 2 gigs of ram :P But still, I don't want Ubuntu to be slower than my current Debian install, and I felt a little like high memory requirements could be an indication of that
[22:31] <ed1t> can someone paste the lines for enabling multiverse repository for gutsy?
[22:31] <dios_mio> jk_,. how can you live without youtube?
[22:31] <erUSUL> ed1t: System>Admin>Software sources   on the first tab
[22:31] <Flannel> carnegie: no, this literally cannot be.  No Ubuntu version used 2.6.18, Edgy used 17, Feisty 19.  Dapper used 15, and is the only one that actually had php4 in the repositories
[22:31] <ed1t> erUSUL: i dont have access to gui
[22:31] <ed1t> on console
[22:31] <Bibbie> having a problem with my sound in linux the drivers were working correctly now anytime a sound is played im locking up and required to force quit any ideas?
[22:31] <Onyx> I'm trying to play a matroska video file that contains both a French audio stream and an English audio stream.  When this file is loaded up in smplayer, the default audio stream is French, with no apparent option to switch the stream over to English.  When I load the same file in VLC, the default is also French, with an obvious option to switch the stream over to English.  Does anyone know how I can get the English stream to play within smpla
[22:31] <Onyx> yer?
[22:31] <jk_> dios_mio i dont know =(
[22:31] <ed1t> only console
[22:32] <Flannel> chairmeleon: Nah, those 320MB are for the liveCD + installation from live environment.
[22:32] <carnegie> Flannel: but I didn't mean 2.6.18?!
[22:32] <dios_mio> jk_, get windows back... it is worth it with youtube
[22:32] <Flannel> ed1t: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:32] <_damir> anybody know about -G mode (user groups) ?
[22:32] <carnegie> Flannel: are we talking about the same thing
[22:32] <Flannel> carnegie: Your kernel, on that box, is 2.6.18
[22:32] <carnegie> okey
[22:32] <chairmeleon> Flannel: so you think I'll have a desktop as fast as my present ?:)
[22:32] <carnegie> Flannel: my bad sorry
[22:32] <ed1t> Flannel: i know the path but i dunno which lines to add for multiverse
[22:32] <Flannel> chairmeleon: Yes
[22:33] <Flannel> ed1t: Look at your universe lines there, and after every "universe" add " multiverse"
[22:33] <chairmeleon> flannel: sweet
[22:33] <chairmeleon> haven't been playing in the brownish ubuntu mud since 6.06 so I figured it's about time :D
[22:33] <erUSUL> ed1t: then edit /etc/apt/sources.list with sudo and comment out the multiverse lines
[22:33]  * hendrixski has to go
[22:33] <Flannel> !anyone | _damir
[22:33] <ubotu> _damir: In place of  "Does anyone/anybody...", please be aware, one persons expert is another persons beginner, please ask your question in full, then see what helps!
[22:33] <_damir> Flannel: do you know somethink about -G mode ?
[22:34] <jk_> dios_mio my cd is coming on monday so im taking off ubuntu
[22:34] <Flannel> _damir: Ask your real question.
[22:34] <dios_mio> jk_, your windows cd?
[22:34] <Bibbie> having a problem with sound locking up any application playing it, drivers are installed and correct for linux anyone have any ideas?
[22:34] <jk_> 'dios_mio yeah
[22:34] <_damir> how to add all groups on myuser ?
[22:34] <Flannel> _damir: all groups?
[22:34] <_damir> hm, i add only netdev in my user
[22:34] <stevecasper> Flannel : here is the link......http://pastebin.com/m102cb72d
[22:34] <The_Linkster> I need help with installing a package in Ubuntu(7.10) with apt-get. The package is libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal. The error I get is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58010/
[22:34] <_damir> usermod -G netdev user
[22:34] <jk_> freakin hate ubuntu lol is like a old version of mac os
[22:35] <_damir> and i have no access on root, and some things
[22:35] <gravemind> :)
[22:35] <Flannel> _damir: that's a bad thing.  You needed to have an -a at the end.  otherwise you simply set your groups
[22:35] <Flannel> _damir: You have another user with sudo access?
[22:35] <YazzY> hi guys
[22:35] <hendrixski> jk_, careful, a lot of us here have put a lot of work into developing UBuntu
[22:35] <gravemind> hi
[22:35] <jk_> dios_mio u got dual boot?
[22:35] <dios_mio> jkary, no, I have only windows :P
[22:36] <Flannel> stevecasper: Remove the last line.  close that gedit, then alt-f2, "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the entire last line.
[22:36] <dios_mio> jk_, no, I have only windows :P
[22:36] <hendrixski> jk_, some people on this channel include developers, and we're passionate about it
 _damir: You have another user with sudo access?
[22:36] <YazzY> you noticed booting XEN kernels on Hardy make lots of apps to coredump ?
[22:36] <Flannel> stevecasper: automatix is a dangerous, and unneeded, piece.
[22:36] <_damir> no i set just netdev group in my user
[22:36] <Flannel> stevecasper: piece of software, that is.
[22:36] <_damir> do you know what is -G mode?
[22:36] <jk_> sioa_mio lol i miss windows and those funny viruses xD
[22:36] <jk_> dios_mios*
[22:36] <The_Linkster> I need help with installing a package in Ubuntu(7.10) with apt-get. The package is libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal. The error I get is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58010/
[22:36] <Flannel> _damir: I do.  You set your groups instead of adding to it.  You'll need to re-set it to be able to use sudo.  Do you have another user that can administer the system?
[22:37] <dios_mio> jk_, heh :)
[22:37] <D-Unit> can sum1 plz help me make a shared folder between a virtualbox xp and ubuntu 7.10?
[22:37] <stevecasper> yeah...i think i need to be more careful what these random internet sites say i should install
[22:37] <dios_mio> jk_, when did you switch to linux?
[22:37] <ed1t> when i did apt-get install sun-java5-jdk...while installing it thru couple of '/dev/mem: mmap: Bad address'
[22:37] <jk_> dios_mio yesterday
[22:37] <dios_mio> jk_, heh
[22:38] <dios_mio> jk_, what were you thinking? :P
[22:38] <jk_> dios_mio im thinking of windows and funny youtube videos
[22:38]  * The_Linkster feels ignored.
[22:38] <carnegie> Flannel: I've never used php for developing reasons or anything like that, but how is it possible then that I got this version on my system? it must be through synaptic?!
[22:39] <dios_mio> jk_, linux isn't worth the hassle imo :/
[22:39] <The_Linkster> I need help with installing a package in Ubuntu(7.10) with apt-get. The package is libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal. The error I get is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58010/
[22:39] <jk_> dios_mio i know its like so confusing
[22:39] <Flannel> carnegie: I don't believe this system is the system you think it is.
[22:39] <_Marek_> hi all
[22:39] <Hamled> hmm, I'm trying to build a new kernel, and I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58012/
[22:40] <jk_> dios_mio atleast i got frostwire ;D
[22:40] <dios_mio> jk_, the only thing is it has options for different look and feel on the desktop.. but is it worth it?
[22:40] <_Marek_> is anyone connected to a wifi with multiple WEP keys, using key #2
[22:40] <jk_> dios_mio if u want to try it make a backup lol cuz u wont like it xD
[22:40] <dios_mio> heh
[22:40] <The_Linkster> I need help with installing a package in Ubuntu(7.10) with apt-get. The package is libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal. The error I get is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58010/
[22:41] <carnegie> Flannel: if you tell how I could check the actual version I will copy it into the window
[22:41] <ere4si> The_Linkster, see if there is a   -dev  for that
[22:41] <jk_> dios_mio have u seen that virus on youtube it comes to the screen and says
[22:41] <Flannel> carnegie: lsb_release -a
[22:41] <jk_> you are an idiot hahhaahahah
[22:41] <dios_mio> jk_, heh no.. got a link?
[22:41] <The_Linkster> ere4si: Thank you.
[22:41] <robdig> The_Linkster: are you using gutsy?
[22:41] <PriceChild> !offtopic | jk_ dios_mio
[22:41] <ubotu> jk_ dios_mio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:42] <stevecasper> Flannel: u my hero!!! Ubuntu hero anyway
[22:42] <dios_mio> jk_, I think they want us to stfu :P
[22:42] <Flannel> stevecasper: Glad you got it figured out
[22:42] <jk_> lol
[22:42] <dios_mio> jk_, and rtfm :P
[22:42] <jk_> they a bunch of haters =(
[22:42] <dios_mio> jk_ lol yeah!
[22:42] <Flannel> !acronyms
[22:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acronyms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:42] <carnegie> Flannel: Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[22:42] <carnegie> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[22:42] <carnegie> Release:        7.10
[22:42] <carnegie> Codename:       gutsy
[22:42] <The_Linkster> robdig: I dont know the version is 7.10.
[22:42] <Flannel> carnegie: Don't paste here.  But, ok.
[22:42] <dios_mio> uh oh
[22:42] <dios_mio> he's gonna kick us now
[22:42] <carnegie> Flannel: sorry
[22:42] <stevecasper> i didnt do anything......thanks again
[22:42] <jk_> just go to youtube and search funny virus
[22:42] <robdig> The_Linkster: yup, same thing.
[22:43] <Flannel> carnegie: What does `ifconfig` give you for your IP from your server's box?
[22:43] <Hamled> hmm, I'm trying to build a new kernel, and I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58012/
[22:43] <Carbonflux> lol
[22:43] <The_Linkster> robdig: I don't keep up with the code names.
[22:43] <robdig> The_Linkster: are you using amd 64? according to this, http://packages.ubuntu.com/libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal it should be there.
[22:44] <The_Linkster> robdig: I 'm using 32 bit.
[22:44] <carnegie> Flannel: would my server be eth0?
[22:44] <robdig> The_Linkster: let me look a bit
[22:44] <Flannel> carnegie: yeah. just the inetaddr (second line, first thing) under eth0
[22:44] <The_Linkster> robdig: Ok thank you for the help ^_^.
[22:45] <SaintPaulTom> How do you share a printer between two computers, both running ubuntu?
[22:45] <carnegie> Flannel: sorry to ask like that, but is it save to post it like that? :-)
[22:46] <Flannel> carnegie: /msg Flannel .
[22:46] <aghachi> what does Process /usr/bin/trackerd exited with status 0 mean when i try to search for a file?
[22:47] <aghachi> nvm
[22:47] <remi__> !list
[22:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:49] <Moe|Joe[L]> hey
[22:49] <Moe|Joe[L]> i need a hand with ubuntu server
[22:49] <david> Moe|Joe[L]: #ubuntu-server
[22:49] <madman91> hey guys
[22:49] <madman91> is there a way to speed up (or optimize) ssh with screen for irssi?
[22:49] <Moe|Joe> cheers
[22:50] <david> ;)
[22:51] <pngl> I'm moving Ubuntu to another machine, is there a way to re-unite my partitioned hard drive ? (While keeping XP untouched)
[22:51] <robdig> The_Linkster: you're just trying to install, not build, right?
[22:51] <The_Linkster> robdig: What do you mean?
[22:52] <robdig> The_Linkster: you are not trying to compile it, right? just download and install...
[22:52] <_Marek_> anyone has kernel 2.6.24 installed on 7.10?
[22:53] <The_Linkster> robdig: Well I need to use it so I guess I need to compile it.
[22:54] <Hamled> if I install a new kernel with kernel-package, will kernel module packages automatically recognize it, IE if I reinstall nvidia drivers with envy?
[22:54] <pngl> (sorry about my bad english): is it possible to blend to partitions without modifying the data on the first one ?
[22:54] <carnegie> pngl: afaik no
[22:55] <cambazz> hello I am on 64 bit ubuntu - and something broke with the flash player i think
[22:55] <cambazz> you tube does not come up any more
[22:55] <erUSUL> !envy | Hamled
[22:56] <ubotu> Hamled: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:56] <Hamled> oh, ok
[22:57] <robdig> The_Linkster: hmm, i think you will need to open a bug on this at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug my thought is that they set a wrong dependency in the package
[22:57] <prasanna> anyone know how to fix the keyring that pops up at start up?
[22:57] <ere4si> Hamled: seen this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[22:57] <The_Linkster> robdig: What does that mean?
[22:58] <prasanna> i've googled it, tried a few fixes, but none seem to work
[22:58] <robdig> The_Linkster: that i can't help you get it installed...i believe the package has a bug in it...i'm sorry
[22:58] <prasanna> lol frankly, they seem to have made things worse
[22:59] <Flannel> carnegie: try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload   see if that works
[22:59] <The_Linkster> robdig: Ok. v_v Thank you anyway.
[22:59] <Lifeisfunny> I finally figggerd it out.   yeee haw!
[22:59] <D-Unit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247780 on sharing files between virtual machine and ubuntu "In Ubuntu, point the folder location to smb://yourwindowsVM/c$ and login with the Administrator password from Windows. You should be able to read and write. I don't think this will work for XP Home." "yourwindows=?"
[22:59] <robdig> The_Linkster: np, wish i could have helped
[23:00] <carnegie> Flannel: didn't really change anything
[23:00] <Hamled> ere4si: thanks
[23:00] <ere4si> k
[23:02] <D-Unit> im spose to type "smb://yourwindowsVM/c$" in ubuntu? the yourwindows part do i edit it?
[23:02] <rainwalker> lots of people coming and going today
[23:02] <rainwalker> D-Unit: yes
[23:02] <rainwalker> you edit it
[23:02] <D-Unit> rainwalker, to wat?
[23:02] <D-Unit> rainwalker, and i type it in firefox?
[23:02] <rainwalker> applications > accessories > terminal
[23:03] <The_Linkster> robdig: Could I try manually try installing the package or get the package from the debian apt-get list?
[23:03] <D-Unit> rainwalker, ok so wat do i type in the terminal..how do i find out?
[23:04] <robdig> The_Linkster: it is possible to get it from debian, but i have never done so
[23:04] <m4jkl> time to sleep ladies :) bye
[23:04] <The_Linkster> robdig: Oh ok.
[23:04] <rainwalker> D-Unit: I'm not exactly sure, I don't know much about samba, I just run the commands my dad tells me to. can you get to whatever drive you want (I'm assuming it's networked?) by going to places > network?
[23:05] <D-Unit> rainwalker, all im trying to do is share files between a virtual xp and ubuntu
[23:05] <Lifeisfunny> wow, I am having too much fun.   It's too late now but I bet they would have made this an E-ticket ride at Disney World.
[23:06] <LoLLo> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs8sYe4uqM
[23:06] <eth01> LoLLo, off topic for this channel.
[23:07] <LoLLo> not totally :P
[23:07] <CaptainJank> anybody know why iptables sometimes quits responding to firestarter configuration?
[23:07] <demonspork> how do I set the default runlevel of ubuntu? I want it to boot up in init 4, rather than 5
[23:07] <tinin> !sftp
[23:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:07] <limp> Hi, what is the bash command to format a partition?
[23:08] <runlevel> demonspork,
[23:08] <lisa_comei> hi...how to set port bind in feisty?
[23:08] <runlevel> demonspork, do some googling of "upstart" its ubuntu's init system.
[23:08] <DjSP33D> italy8
[23:08] <lisa_comei> it show port 953
[23:09] <runlevel> lisa_comei, give me a moment and ill let you know
[23:09] <lunks> Everytime I close my lid, a beep is heard... how to disable it?
[23:10] <runlevel> lisa_comei,  /etc/services
[23:10] <lunks> or open it
[23:10] <runlevel> lisa_comei, should be able to modify that file
[23:10] <limp> Hi, what is the bash command to format a partition?
[23:10] <genjix> limp: depends what fs
[23:10] <runlevel> limp, mkfs.ext3
[23:10] <runlevel> LimCore, mkfs.<fstype>
[23:10] <Hamled> is agpgart still needed for pci-express?
[23:10] <housecat> #paradox
[23:10] <nios> evning, ist possible to connect to my nfs share from a winxp or do i need to install samba?
[23:10] <runlevel> samba
[23:11] <runlevel> NFS is a unix only protocol
[23:11] <nios> ok
[23:11] <Hamled> is agpgart still needed for pci-express?
[23:11] <ere4si> nios: windows has a nfs protocol but you need to d/load from their site
[23:12] <runlevel> ere4si, he's gone
[23:12] <ere4si> yep...
[23:12] <meyzu> \
[23:12] <TTilus> runlevel: no, it's not, see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055
[23:12] <linux__> hi
[23:13] <TTilus> nios did not wait for the second opinion  ;)
[23:13] <tinman> If i chroot through a liveCD then apt-get, will it install stuff in my root partition? (I need to use liveCD's apt to install on my root partition)
[23:13] <runlevel> ya i was gonna mention there might be a crappy app to interface it. but that is very insecure
[23:13] <PriceChild> tinman: yes
[23:14] <tinman> PriceChild: really? :D, any idea how do I do that though
[23:14] <mart1> hi guys
[23:14] <rikkimaru> Does anyone know an IRC channel devoted to control theory?
[23:14] <TTilus> tinman: "root partition" = ubuntu installaation on your hd?
[23:14] <TTilus> tinman: if so, it won't
[23:14] <lisa_comei> runlevel: found that file...but no port 953 in there
[23:15] <tinman> TTilus: :< that's what I ment
[23:15] <PriceChild> tinman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600644 Second part
[23:15] <runlevel> lisa_comei, sory im not 100% then.
[23:15] <mart1> any info on g35 express support in hardy, as well as associated hdmi support ? I plan to upgrade my pc when hardy's out...
[23:15] <tinman> I was tryig to fix xorg, got pissed andd tough i would reinstall it, so removed it
[23:15] <tinman> Now I can't install it
[23:15] <TTilus> tinman: after booting to livecd you need to chroot to / of your hd installation and then apt-get stuff
[23:15] <tinman> TTilus: that is what I ment before :s
[23:15] <tinman> PriceChild: thanks
[23:16] <erawfish_> mart1: hdmi for what? not as if linux supported any DRM on DVDs either :)
[23:16] <carnegie> good night @ all
[23:16] <mart1> just for screen display actually :) seen some posts that report some problems in current hardy version
[23:16] <tinman> FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device
[23:16] <tinman> What would that mean
[23:16] <tinman> Or is the battery module not important?
[23:17] <mart1> my lcd screen has a vga and hdmi input (no dvi but this is no problem I have a dvi to hdmi cable but my next motherboard will have hdmi output)
[23:17] <erawfish_> tinman: desktop or notebook?
[23:17] <tinman> erawfish_: desktop
[23:17] <erawfish_> tinman: ever seen a desktop with a battery?
[23:19] <zhanx> ok i got a secondary usb mouse for my computer is there a way to define the input to different events?
[23:19] <tinman> erawfish_: yep, on the motherboard :>
[23:19] <erawfish_> tinman: you can be a smartass on your own. HAND
[23:19] <zhanx> !mouse
[23:19] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[23:19] <tinman> zhanx: i think xorg.conf has that
[23:19] <tinman> erawfish_: sorry :\
[23:20] <zhanx> tinman: yep your right
[23:20] <goodhabit> Hello. where I can find cpu temperature?
[23:21] <duncan> i have a problem where i appear offline to certain contacts (when my status is online) on the MSN network. the problem is on all programs ive tried (pidgin, kmess and aMSN), and its always the same contacts im appearing offline to. the problem happens on both my home and university internet connections.
[23:21] <carlos_> Someone had problems in configure the widescreen resolution in the laptop?
[23:21] <billy_> helooo
[23:22] <zhanx> tinman any clue how i find my /dev entry for the second mouse
[23:22] <robdig> goodhabit: if you have lm-sensors installed, type in a terminal the command: sensors
[23:22] <goodhabit> zhanx, ~$ cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[23:23] <fastfinger> zhanx: no sir, but i read something amout customizing mouse events through xorg.conf in the forums :s
[23:23] <billy_> once again.. i still need help with wireless networking.. still cant get it to work. i tried ndiswrapper, restricted drivers manager, and pretty much everything else. iwconfig shows all information about my wireless card, but i cant seem to connect to any networks..
[23:23] <fastfinger> billy_: Any errors while trying to connect ot network?
[23:23] <Maimster> How's everyone.
[23:23] <goodhabit> robdig, thanks. Maybe some gui too?
[23:23] <billy_> no
[23:23] <LoLLo> is there a good italian - english - italian dictionary for STARDICT ?
[23:24] <billy_> no networks show up in the first place
[23:24] <eth01> ?
[23:24] <billy_> fastfinger
[23:24] <fastfinger> billy_: when you set up through pppoeconf, you see your card and all?
[23:25] <billy_> wuts pppoeconf?
[23:25] <kruqnut> ubuntu doesn't correctly access or see my raid drive
[23:25] <billy_> i did ndiswrapper and restricted drivers manager to set up the drivers, and yea..
[23:25] <fastfinger> billy_: oh, i assumed you were on a PPPoE
[23:25] <robdig> goodhabit: there are some, but i don't have them...seen several people talk about conky on the channel
[23:25] <carlos_> Please I need a help here!! :)
[23:25] <billy_> !ask|carlos_
[23:25] <ubotu> carlos_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:26] <Antkin> Hello
[23:26] <kruqnut> i just need to mount it or something, im having problems installin windows i keep getting a blue screen, so i want to delete some files off the hard drive
[23:26] <joeamined> hi
[23:26] <joeamined> splashy doesn't want to work in gutsy
[23:26] <kruqnut> but when i try to mount in live mode it gives me an error about the raid drive
[23:26] <goodhabit> robdig, can you help me get sensors working? "Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need. Try sensors-detect to find out which these are." is comes when I'm typing 'sensors/
[23:26] <billy_> fastfinger? whats pppoeconf?
[23:26] <goodhabit> 'sensors' I mean
[23:26] <kruqnut> and if i goto install it sees the raid as 2 seperate drives(but in the explorer type window, it sees 1 volume)
[23:26] <fastfinger> billy_: you use that to set of PPP configuration
[23:27] <kruqnut> how can i get my windows folder and files deleted completely
[23:27] <fastfinger> rm -rf ?
[23:27] <kruqnut> i don't want to lose the data on the drive but i currently don't have a functional OS on it
[23:27] <carlos_> Ok, so i'm having some troubles to configure the widescreen resolution on my laptop... Do you know what can i Do?
[23:27] <fastfinger> kruqnut: mout it and copy what you need, then format it
[23:27] <odysseybmx> Mans0n: EXCUSE ME, BUT WTF R U DOIN
[23:28] <kruqnut> i can't mount it
[23:28] <storm-ze1> I'm trying to troubleshoot samba / guarddog.  I see many messages similar to this one being logged: Mar  1 17:26:37 babydoll kernel: [448971.044000] DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.10.166 DST=80.213.2.206 LEN=91 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=23964 DPT=14796 LEN=71   <-- how do I look for the application that is causing it?
[23:28] <kruqnut> it is a RAID volume
[23:28] <salty> is build-essentials on the live cd?
[23:28] <robdig> goodhabit: the module for temperature is called coretemp
[23:28] <kruqnut> and the live cd ubuntu won't mount it
[23:28] <fastfinger> carlos_: xorg.conmf lets you set those afair, ig oyu have the exact details you want
[23:28] <fastfinger> kruqnut: ahh, no idea
[23:28] <shem> anyone:  How do I find my full computer name?  As regards to VNC, instead of the ip
[23:28] <goodhabit> robdig, no such device on 'modprobe coretemp'
[23:28] <kruqnut> says something about mounting another device and setting up dmraid or something
[23:29] <Antkin> Hello I've been using Linux since 1999 I started with Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 in November 2007 will you chat to a newbie to IRC
[23:29] <fastfinger> Antkin: ask the question, if you have a problem
[23:29] <plamo> h6w d6 5 t4rn n40pad 6ff 6n 0y 3apt6/
[23:29] <fastfinger> There is a different channel for general 'chat'
[23:30] <Maimster> shem: hostname from your commandline should do it.
[23:30] <fastfinger> plamo: English please, sir.
[23:30] <billy_> fastfinger: pppoeconf gave me an error saying the access concentrator didn't respond..
[23:30] <prince_jammys> !1337
[23:30] <basti> i want to remove  "[TB] " from some files. but with  s/'[TB] '// ./* it wont work. can anyone give me a hint? thanks!
[23:30] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[23:30] <carlos_> But I already changed the xorg.conf for the resolution that I want, but anyway... nothing happened... is there other stuff to configure?
[23:30] <salty> is build-essentials on the live cd?
[23:30] <robdig> goodhabit: looking to see what pkg its in
[23:30] <billy_> plamo: press the num lock key
[23:30] <fastfinger> billy_: does an ifconfig show a eth0 or similar?
[23:30] <plamo> f4nct56n 2ey!
[23:30] <billy_> eth0 and lo
[23:31] <inaety> how can i install an exe toolbar into firefox on ubuntu? just to clarify, it's the megaupload toolbar
[23:31] <billy_> plamo: press the number lock key
[23:31] <plamo> k
[23:31] <goodhabit> robdig, aptitude search coretemp is not giving anything
[23:31] <CharlieSu> What is the best way to see what program is eating up IO on a linux system?
[23:31] <fastfinger> inaety: "exe"?
[23:31] <plamo> oh thank god
[23:31] <Antkin> fastfinger thanks for that. I had a power cut all five computers on my network shut down, four recovered OK, but one is getting stange results in Boinc Manager
[23:31] <CharlieSu> I'm doing a vmstat and seeing my 'wa' variable really high
[23:31] <kruqnut> does ubuntu not support installation on a preformatted raid disk?
[23:31] <plamo> thanks so much
[23:31] <billy_> fastfinger, eth0 and lo show up
[23:31] <shem> right, that works when i'm on the same network.  is there any longer resolvable name...like the ones it shows when we enter here?
[23:31] <billy_> plamp: i hade that problem berfore lmao
[23:31] <tehCurtis> is there a command to see what permission you have on a folder?
[23:32] <billy_> plamo*
[23:32] <fastfinger> billy_: no idea, never used wireless before :s
[23:32] <eubey> how do I use iwconfig with an atheros card (ath0) to connect to a wpa network?
[23:32] <fastfinger> tehCurtis: ls -al
[23:32] <tehCurtis> noice, thanks!
[23:32] <zef> ok
[23:32] <billy_> is there anyone in here that can help me with wireless?
[23:33] <kruqnut> im trying to mount a NTFS raid volume in ubuntu 7.1 live cd
[23:33] <mindframe-> how do i prevent xorg from loading the "intel" driver?  I want it to use "i810" but it keeps detecting that "intel" is a better match or something.  the "intel" driver unfortunately does not support dual display.
[23:33] <kruqnut> but i get an error
[23:33] <josspyker> billy_: chipset?
[23:33] <tinman> kruqnut: ntfs-3g
[23:33] <billy_> mindframe blacklist it
[23:33] <billy_> josspyker: bcm4311 lmao
[23:33] <tinman> kruqnut: ntfs-3g comes with liveCD
[23:33] <kruqnut> i need that to mount a ntfs volume?
[23:33] <josspyker> billy_: usb?
[23:33] <mindframe-> billy_, where can i blacklist xorg drivers?
[23:34] <billy_> midframe: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist andwrite 'blacklist <driver>'
[23:34] <billy_> josspyker: no, built-in, came with the laptop
[23:34] <nmz> can anyone suggest an IRC client as similar to mIRC as possible?
[23:34] <nicholas> Sometimes, my external HD will simply disconnect for no reason. The only way to remount it is to wait or unplug it and plug it back in. What can I do about that?
[23:34] <Antkin> I've had a power cut all five computers on my network shut down, four recovered OK, but one is getting strange results in Boinc Manager can you help me?
[23:34] <josspyker> billy_: dell?
[23:34] <salty> hp
[23:34] <billy_> josspyker: yep
[23:34] <Starnestommy> nmz: xchat or kvirc
[23:35] <kostkon> nmz, xchat
[23:35] <plamo> Okay, now that I have my first problems fixed, (thanks) I have a third. My laptop recognises that I have a 1400x900 monitor, but doesn't offer it as a resolution. Any tips?
[23:35] <billy_> mindframe: is it working for ya?
[23:35] <nmz> I'm on xc now, I'll have a look at kv
[23:35] <Phuz> How would I go about setting up my HDTV on my GeForce 8600 as well as my monitor?
[23:35] <Starnestommy> nmz: I managed to get mIRC to work in wine before
[23:35] <golf_gti> hi all, got a slight problem installing ubuntu 7.10 64bit on p35 chipset... after choosing install, the installer gets stuck with a busybox prompt... i couldnt find some real clues by using the big goo...
[23:35] <nmz> Starnestommy: sounds like a pain
[23:35] <kostkon> nmz, xchat-gnome or xchat?
[23:35] <nicholas> plamo: Try switching drivers to something else, experiment a bit
[23:35] <Flannel> nmz: xchat
[23:35] <plamo> Okay, thanks
[23:35] <nmz> hrm, gnome
[23:35] <golf_gti> something with initramfs
[23:36] <nicholas> plamo: Mine dint work until I selected Intel
[23:36] <Starnestommy> nmz: actually, I just had to run the installer from the command line, but the fonts were messed up when I tried it
[23:36] <D-Unit> how do i share files between virtual xp pro and ubuntu 7.10?
[23:36] <kostkon> nmz, if you use xchat-gnome, better try xchat. xchat-gnome is too simplistic.
[23:36] <inaety> fastfinger: it's an executable to install for windows firefox
[23:37] <billy_> mindframe: after you blacklist the driver, type 'sudo modprobe <driver you want to use>' and then 'sudo modprobe -r <driver you dont want to use>' and it will launch the driver you want without having to restart
[23:37] <salty> i want to install ubuntu on myasus eeepc , but i needto know if 'build-essentials' is included with the desktop ISO, i'm on a boat and limited on my searching capabilities
[23:37] <fastfinger> inaety: you want to use a "exe" for windows on ubuntu?
[23:37] <Starnestommy> salty: not by default.
[23:37] <billy_>  josspyker?
[23:37] <salty> ok....thnx
[23:38] <josspyker> billy_: did you check google?
[23:38] <Starnestommy> salty: there might be a .deb for it on the CD and it's also in the repositories
[23:38] <eubey> how do I use iwconfig with an atheros card (ath0) to connect to a wpa network?
[23:38] <inaety> fastfinger: no i just want the firefox addon.  installing it using wine will only work if i use firefox under wine
[23:38] <robdig> goodhabit: sorry it took me a while, but here is how i got it working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> D-Unit, Ubuntu should be able to read ntfs drive with no issues
[23:38] <billy_> josskyper: so many times its not even funny.. i think im getting carpal tunnel just by searching thru google for something i haven't tried yet lol
[23:38] <fastfinger> inaety: the site hsould have the source or a .deb for the addon
[23:38] <salty> i need it to install my wifi drivers... only connect i have on a boat
[23:38] <billy_> salty: chipset?
[23:38] <goodhabit> robdig, thanks a lot.
[23:39] <D-Unit> Jack_Sparrow, its virtual xp
[23:39] <salty> atheros
[23:39] <billy_> salty: one sec
[23:39] <nicholas> Sometimes, my external HD will simply disconnect for no reason. The only way to remount it is to wait or unplug it and plug it back in. What can I do about that?
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> D-Unit, Sorry, I dont bother with anything virtual
[23:39] <billy_> salty: atheros.. but what model?
[23:39] <D-Unit> Jack_Sparrow, k, thx anyway
[23:39] <blockcipher> I have having issues viewing embedded youtube videos on website...i can goto youtube and view it ...  I have reinstall the flash player as well .. any ideas?
[23:39] <Antkin> Help I've had a power cut since then I'm getting strange results in Boinc Manager it opens a terminal window not my browser.
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholas, Some of those externals had a sleep mode that you had to turn off using windows software from the mfg
[23:40] <josspyker> billy_: it's in the ubuntu forums
[23:40] <NB2000> atheros in general can use madwifi correct?
[23:40] <billy_> josskyper: ive looked thru so many threads its not even funny
[23:40] <tinman> Hm, i am trying to chroot into my root partition on my HDD so I can use live cd to apt-get and install on my partition, how would i do this?
[23:40] <billy_> josskyper: i think theres a missing/corrupted configuration file
[23:40] <salty> i'm not sure...but have documentation on how to install and i have the patch and drivers... but need to get .deb of build essentials so i have everything together before i start
[23:41] <billy_> im missing the iftab file...
[23:41] <billy_> salty: oh.. google it?
[23:41] <salty> ok...thnx
[23:41] <inaety> fastfinger: what site should
[23:41] <billy_> salty: lol i couldn't tell ya where to find the build essentials.. maybe in the synaptic package manager?
[23:41] <NB2000> I'm using madwifi drivers on this box and it's definitely an atheros based wifi card.
[23:42] <tinman> inaety: firefox's site?
[23:42] <salty> i do appreciate the help people... this is what makes ubuntu the best in my eyes
[23:42] <josspyker> billy_: i see a lot of problems with that chipset,give a couple of minutes
[23:42] <killroy_2> two questions: is there a cli command to burn an iso to dvd and is there a cli command to create an iso from a directory?
[23:42] <billy_> josskyper: yes.. its hell in a silicon chip, i swear..
[23:42] <billy_> josskyper: be back in about ten mins
[23:42] <carlos_> how can i see the xorg.conf log?
[23:43] <inaety> tinman: i dont want to install firefox, i want to install a toolbar for it
[23:43] <ripper666> carlos_: try nano
[23:43] <tinman> inaety: you said it's an addon, so either try the "tooblar's" hhome page or firefox'es addon's page
[23:44] <tinman> if they have ported it for linux, it should be there <- inaety
[23:44] <ripper666> carlos_: type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:44] <inaety> tinman: yeah? i can't find it oh well. i will just use it under wine
[23:44] <windows_> p
[23:45] <windows_> dios_mio u here
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !info build-essential
[23:46] <ubotu> build-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[23:47] <sarthor> installing vmware on gutsy, this is the error in start. "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected." any help?
[23:47] <icesword> sarthor, uninstall first one
[23:47] <billy_> josskyper: anything yet?
[23:48] <icesword> good morning,everyone
[23:48] <sarthor> icesword,hOW?
[23:48] <icesword> sarthor, what vmware software you install first
[23:49] <icesword> !tab
[23:49] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[23:49] <billy_> !bcm
[23:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:49] <sarthor> not installed.
[23:49] <sarthor> i jsut tried.
[23:49] <icesword> sarthor, okay,uninstall the one
[23:49] <sarthor> icesword, vmware server
[23:49] <storm-ze1> man seems to be broken.  Really hard to get around without it.  Can someone help?
[23:49] <sarthor> icesword, how to uninstall?
[23:50] <windows_> DOES ANYONE KNOW Y I CANT WATCH YOUTUBE VIDEOS WITH FLASH INSTALLED?
[23:50] <icesword> !caps
[23:50] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[23:50] <bruenig> windows_: calm down
[23:50] <icesword> sarthor, how do you installed it
[23:50] <windows_> sorry caps i forgot i had it on
[23:50] <sarthor> icesword, V
[23:50] <sarthor> icesword, ./vmware-install.pl
[23:50] <Antkin> Hello
[23:51] <icesword> sarthor, i think there must be vmware-uninstall.pl
[23:51] <sarthor> there ins not uninstall
[23:51] <nicholas> windows_: I assume you are using Konqueror
[23:51] <nicholas> windows_: You must install a past version of flash, Konqueror has problems with Flash
[23:51] <eubey> can someone here please help me with wireless networking? it was working perfectly before i deleted a gnome panel, now i cant get it to work again
[23:51] <windows_>  dont know im a newbie at ubuntu im using ubuntu
[23:51] <icesword> sarthor, use that ./vmware-uninstall.pl to uninstall it,see if it is
[23:51] <bruenig> eubey: can you get it up from the command line?
[23:51] <windows_> 7.10
[23:51] <billy_> josskyper?
[23:51] <nicholas> windows_: Oh! Sorry, I confused this with the #kubuntu channel, sorry. Just ignore my comments.
[23:52] <windows_> k
[23:52] <sarthor> icesword, Its not installed Yet. Its lieing that its already installed.
[23:52] <icesword> sarthor, ???
[23:53] <sarthor> vmware is not installed already. Its lie that my computer say its installed.
[23:53] <vitamin-carrot> then tell it to stop lieing
[23:53] <sarthor> i just stopped in start.. its not installed.
[23:53] <josspyker> billy_: did you checked http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274915,this includers the iftab issue
[23:53] <vitamin-carrot> i use virtual box
[23:53] <storm-ze1> is it possible to (unintentionally) install too many firewall front ends (and thus pollute your iptables) ?  I have many, many rules since I started trying to get a better grip on the rules with front-ends.
[23:53] <vitamin-carrot> i find it has less hassles
[23:53] <levander> Is there a command line program I can use to benchmark my internet connecion?
[23:53] <vitamin-carrot> pitty innotek is owned by sun
[23:54] <billy_> thanks josskyper
[23:54] <billy_> im lookin at it now
[23:54] <windows_> what does wine windows emulator do?
[23:54] <icesword> vitamin-carrot, but virtualbox is free
[23:54] <vitamin-carrot> yeap
[23:54] <fastfinger> I have the root partition mounted in a folder abc, if i want to chroot, chroot abc/ /bin/bash ?
[23:54] <vitamin-carrot> free stuff is all good
[23:54] <prince_jammys> windows_: runs windows programs
[23:54] <vitamin-carrot> everyone likes free stuff
[23:54] <sarthor> vmware is good. but how to install
[23:54] <windows_> oh awesome :D
[23:54] <Antkin> Hello I am a newbie to IRC i'm using Chatzilla this is my first night.
[23:54] <eubey> bruenig, nvm i jus had to re-enable the notification area
[23:55] <jodde> Hi guys.
[23:55] <vitamin-carrot> HI PWHDAVEY!!!
[23:55] <windows_> prince_jammys does that mena that i can install my microsft web ca,?
[23:55] <windows_> cam*
[23:55] <fastfinger> Antkin: you have not yet mentioned your problem
[23:55] <icesword> sarthor, what are you trying to install,workstation?did you see the README
[23:55] <yeshu> hhh
[23:55] <storm-ze1> I can't access man.  I get a message that tells me option -F is a bad option, yet 'which man' gives me /usr/bin/man, which runs ok... except that it doesn't appear to find very much documentation.
[23:55] <prince_jammys> windows_: i don't know. it doesn't run everything
[23:55] <prince_jammys> !appdb | windows_
[23:55] <sarthor> icesword, Its vmware-server
[23:55] <ubotu> windows_: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[23:55] <marshall> god i feel stupid asking this...
[23:55] <jodde> I'm trying to update to 2.24, but update manager keeps hanging
[23:56] <vitamin-carrot> i wonder how many kiwis are here
[23:56] <Pwhdavey_> vitamin-carrot: me
[23:56] <sarthor> icesword, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=610829
[23:56] <vitamin-carrot> LIES!
[23:56] <vitamin-carrot> lol
[23:56] <marshall> what is the commant to move a folder including its subfolders to a new directory?
[23:56] <marshall> *command
[23:56] <icesword> sarthor, maybe you need root priveliges,sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[23:56] <prince_jammys> marshall: mv
[23:56] <Antkin> fastfinger thanks the problem is Boinc Manager opens a terminal window insted of a browser
[23:56] <vitamin-carrot> im supposed to be having guests over but they have not shown up
[23:56] <wrath144> i'm trying to download a torrent but i get <10kB/s speeds but i know my connection is capable of 200+. i've tried bittorrent, ktorrent and now azureus and it's all the same. i'm not behind a router. can someone help me?
[23:57] <marshall> prince_jammys: it says i cant move it to a subdirectory of itself
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> vitamin-carrot,  Please try to keep on topic
[23:57] <supreme> Hi
[23:57] <icesword> ih
[23:57] <sarthor> icesword, i m root alread
[23:57] <vitamin-carrot> brb
[23:57] <supreme> i have a problem with tracker, it just didnt find anything
[23:57] <jodde> Can anyone help me get the new Ubuntu?
[23:57] <bastid_raZor> wrath144; find a better seeded torrrent
[23:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !download
[23:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[23:58] <prince_jammys> marshall: move it to a temporary place first
[23:58] <wrath144> bastid_raZor: there are 154 seeds
[23:58] <Pwhdavey__> darn dial-up connection
[23:58] <supreme> what can i do? i'd configured very well
[23:58] <Pwhdavey__> keeps disconencting
[23:58] <bastid_raZor> wrath144; that doesn't mean they are offering at fast speeds.
[23:58] <supreme> but tracker still doesnt find anything
[23:59] <prince_jammys> marshall: and no, you can't move the dir to it's own subdirectory
[23:59] <prince_jammys> *its
[23:59] <prince_jammys> :)
[23:59] <Jack_Sparrow> wrath144, are you running an rt2500 card ?
[23:59] <wrath144> bastid_raZor: i've seen other people with this problem in the forum archives, there is nothing wrong with the torrent
[23:59] <wrath144> jack_sparow: no
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