[00:15] How does this work that the source package for lrm contains 169.12 [00:16] but the nvidia-glx-new provided with the new kernel is still 169.9 [00:18] * DanaG still wonders when the ubuntu-modules will go out. [00:18] is murrine default now? [00:19] I wonder why they put all that vmware stuff into the lrm package as well [00:19] * DanaG is using Aurora with a bright orange coloration. [00:20] murrine-human with inverted window border is actually very nice [00:20] was wondering if murrine would be the default [00:21] would make sense seeing as its well maintained [00:21] and all the advances cimi has done the past few months [00:25] seems to be alot of warnings whilst compiling these restricted modules === bmk789_ is now known as bmk789 [00:26] never remember when I had to do it with debian it having anywhere near as many [00:27] anyone else having issues with bluetooth disconnecting after the screen saver is on? === marko-_-_ is now known as marko-_- [00:34] I think thats the worst thing I have ever seen building in terms of compiler warnings [00:34] (But still complete) [00:37] Any way of getting Tracker applet to stop repeatedly repeatedly showing repeatedly the "merging indexes" warning, repeatedly? [00:40] Any update information for those of us with broken packages and update managers? === yuriy_ is now known as yuriy [00:49] Don't you just love the new gnome system monitor? [00:49] slideLURCH slideLURCH slideLURCH slideLURCH slideLURCH [00:52] I just want to say... I've never run alpha software before.. and wow. The dev's do an amazing job taking an OS from Alpha to release. [00:53] Cuz this alpha... [00:53] yeah. [00:55] slideLURCH [00:56] * DanaG wonders: does radeonhd get along with radeonfb? [01:06] DanaG: what do you want them to do? [01:06] I'd like to be able to use native-res framebuffer while also running X. [01:06] DanaG: hide the most recent samples until it can push them out smoothly? [01:07] oh [01:07] i meant the system monitor [01:07] Oh, misinterpreted "them". [01:07] yeah, sorry [01:07] System monitor should scroll smoothly and interpolate. [01:07] Or at least, be entirely jumpy and not slideLURCH-ey. [01:07] hmm [01:07] hey [01:07] there's an idea [01:08] just keep sliding and do basic prediction [01:08] even if only linear [01:08] then change the front samples as appropriate [01:08] and stay going at a constant rate [01:21] anybody home? [01:23] dead heads.. [01:25] uh [01:26] Hah. === Mohero is now known as Mohero|sleep [01:52] Argh, OpenOffice sucks at captioning pictures, too. [01:52] You try to move the picture, and it randomly gets squished. [01:53] Oh, I see.... it creates the caption as PART of the figure, and thus when you try to resize the caption to fit the picture, it RE-resizes the picture. [02:11] go me... [02:12] my brother is 4000 miles away, decides to install ubuntu alll by himself. appears ubuntu did an ok job, even with his nutty Vista laptop's drive structure (he did follow a walkthrough to resize one of his drives in vista and all that) [02:12] it works for a while, then. boom. nothing works [02:12] he has presence of mind to boot off CD and ping me on IM. [02:13] for some strange reason, I blame possibly the fact that ubuntu mapped both Vista and what appears to be a recovery partition that he might have launched, he had somehow corrupted his mbr [02:13] so, got him to install ssh, set a password, and open a tunnel for me, then reset his mbr, and commented out that bad entry. [02:14] hopefully doesn't happen again. [02:14] windows doesn't play nice with others [02:14] it's screwed my MBR before [02:14] did a recent update break flash audio? [02:15] hm. [02:15] * nemo tests [02:15] you ran fuser already I presume ;) [02:15] WFM [02:17] hmm. anyone else had ubuntu not detect their windows partition as windows, and thought it was linux? [02:17] nope [02:17] what fs? FAT32? [02:18] ethana2: so. no rogue locks on /dev/snd/pcm* [02:18] ? [02:18] uh [02:18] i don't know [02:18] fuser -v /dev/snd/pcm* [02:18] k [02:18] just a sec [02:19] like. Gutsy had that bug from firefox handing off handles to stuff like evince, causing sound locks [02:19] I'm not sure that FF3 has fixed that. [02:20] uhhhh [02:20] No such file or directory [02:20] is that... bad? [02:21] nemo, fuser failed- that file isn't there [02:21] restart firefox? [02:22] amarok can still play music [02:22] wha? [02:22] that's odd [02:22] that's what i said [02:22] is there nothing in /dev/snd ? [02:22] maybe your soundcard has a way different layout [02:23] it does [02:23] fuser -v /dev/snd/* :) [02:23] a seperate out for headphones [02:23] so it can use both speakers and phones simultaneously [02:34] cool. Hardy has liquid-rescale in the gimp plugin pack [02:34] oooh. and texturiser and resynthesiser. nice. [02:43] hi [02:43] I just tried a dist-upgrade and got this error: [02:43] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us_2.3.1-1_all.deb (--unpack): [02:43] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hyph_en_US.dic', which is also in package openoffice.org-hyphenation [02:43] has anyone else seen this? [02:44] openoffice broken package [02:44] I figure it's just a packaging bug, but wanted to make sure the appropriate ppl knew :) [02:44] bug #197115 [02:44] Launchpad bug 197115 in hyphen "package openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hyph_en_US.dic', which is also in package openoffice.org-hyphenation (dup-of: 192310)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197115 [02:44] Launchpad bug 192310 in hyphen "package openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hyph_en_US.dic', which is also in package openoffice.org-hyphenation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192310 [02:45] oops. my bad. didn't mean for it to respond twice. [02:45] thanks for the pointer! [02:46] you're welcome [02:57] are the nvidia drivers currently working? === LimCore_ is now known as limcore [03:01] pwnguin: They are for me. [03:01] well shoot [03:01] i go and install your nouveau drivers and set that up [03:01] now nvidia wont work ;) [03:02] of course, i dont remmeber if it was working before i set up nouveau [03:03] The nouveau packages should conflict nicely with nvidia. I've switched between nvidia-glx-new and nouveau many, many times. [03:03] ill have to double check xorg.conf [03:03] it would be great if i could make that stupid bulletproofx thing go away [03:03] :) === Andre_Gondim_ is now known as Andre_Gondim [03:05] Oh, I'm not crazy. FF3's scrolling _is_ much faster under nouveau than nvidia. [03:06] interesting [03:07] And by "much faster" I mean really, a lot lot faster. [03:08] does youtube playback still suck [03:08] im not sure why, but playing flash video anymore is really quite painful [03:08] like eats an entire core painful [03:10] Dunno. I've had gnash installed forever. And that doesn't work very well :/ [03:10] mostly, its to the point where if i wanna watch something fullscreen [03:10] i just use youtube-dl [03:10] which is a cat and mouse game [03:11] hmm. well there is a new nvidia-glx-new pacakge out today [03:12] maybe that'll solve it =/ [03:12] i'd really like to try the colorfilter stuff out again -- i noticed a deuternopia filter [03:21] miro downloads youtube great [03:21] for offline playback? [03:22] or does it just run an instance of flash? [03:23] vlc runs flv files fine or you can change em to avi for example [03:23] yes [03:23] thats not my problem [03:23] even totem plays flv fine [03:24] flash in firefox will be problematic until adobe starts playing nicer with Linux [03:24] flash player really sucks at it, when you have reoslutions like 1600x1200 [03:25] i was wondering if this was a configuration problem on my part or if flash simply was crap [03:26] the second one [03:26] why would you run flash at 1600x1200? [03:27] even in windows, on my machine anyway, it sucks at even a fraction of that [03:27] so i can see it from my bed? [03:27] hehe [03:27] oh geez [03:27] you're playing flash vids [03:27] yes [03:27] pwnguin: sooo why don't you just zoom on the crappy rez-'d youtube vids with super + mousewheel? [03:27] even the better-rez'd google video movies can use that [03:28] and in either case, it plays smoothly at whatever rez the vid is at on my box [03:28] i just download them to disk and watch em with totem [03:28] mm [03:28] that should work. although flash format *is* crap [03:28] well, google tech talks stopped offering .ogg [03:28] shouldn't have to zoom for that [03:28] you should start a petition [03:29] * nemo tries playing an flv in totem at 1680x1050 [03:29] canonical should buy adobe ;] [03:30] looks like adobe has got its hooks in the web for good [03:30] this new javascript sdk... AIR [03:30] * bazhang goes to http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ to add that [03:30] like XulRunner, only not open source, and fewer platforms and you get to beg adobe for linux updates [03:31] pwnguin: flv vids play smoothly fullscreened on my box [03:31] Silverlight might be interesting in that respect, as long as Moonlight can keep up. [03:31] good point [03:31] nemo: with totem, yes. just not with the flash player itself [03:31] um [03:32] pwnguin: well, for that latter you should just zoom in with compiz :-p [03:32] making the flash player do something it sucks at seems kinda pointless [03:32] probably are doing the zoom all in software for xross platform [03:32] compiz tends to crash for me ;) [03:32] sucks to be you [03:32] i think its the fire plugin [03:33] there are a couple of bad ones. the #compiz-fusion folks probably know more [03:33] finally [03:33] I ran into a few in Gutsy, haven't experimented much in Hardy [03:33] somehow, one of my modelines was missing " marks around the resolutions [03:35] mmmm, fire [03:35] yes, compiz has been more crashy than usual [03:38] interesting [03:38] powertop is suggesting that i enable CONFIG_NO_HZ [03:38] Has it? I havent had any issues. [03:38] honestly, i havent used it on my laptop, just the desktop that runs 7.10 [03:48] well.. fixed nvidia, lost iwl [03:48] Heh. [03:49] That sounds like an unfair trade. [03:49] i also need to figure out what's up with powertop when nvidia ISNT running [03:49] some crazy irq rebalancing [04:05] someone want to test something for me with compiz? [04:05] the colorfilter plugin -- am i the only one missing a couple filters? [04:07] in particular, deuteranopia and protanopia [04:09] those are essential in using this thing to help people test colorbilnd usability in apps ;) [04:17] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> any1 tried dream linux? [04:24] argh, openoffice sucks -- you can't select multiple picture objects at the same time. [04:24] You drag things to snap to each other, and they don't line up -- even though it shows the outlines lining up. [04:27] if I dpkg-reconfigure my xserver-xorg, it should find detect my laptop keyboard, right? [04:27] cause I've done it twice, and my volume keys aren't working [04:28] naught101: which machine? [04:28] Hobbsee: dell d410 [04:29] naught101: do the rest of the multimedia ones work? [04:29] that's all I have... xev says that the vol up/down and mute keys have no symbol [04:29] oh... fn+up/down works for screen brightness [04:31] naught101: some of them are done in dbus now [04:31] Hobbsee: I don't know what that means [04:31] it worked fine in gutsy [04:31] means they don't always show up in xev [04:31] yeah, i know [04:31] mine are the same [04:31] ok, so how would I know what's going on in dbus? [04:35] is there still a compiz channel for ubuntu? [04:36] #compiz-fusion isn't good enough? [04:38] Hobbsee: any idea? [04:39] naught101: bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuLaptopKeycodes [04:39] cheers [04:41] WTF, stuff randomly moves if you undo and redo things. [04:41] And update-manager has ignored my "lock version" thing for one package. [04:47] How do I get update-manager to respect the version lock? [04:48] use dpkg --set-selections package hold [04:48] not aptitude's equivalent [04:52] I marked it synaptic, though, also. [04:53] sudo dpkg --set-selections libasound2-plugins hold [04:53] dpkg: --set-selections does not take any argument [04:54] [ 2378.404619] psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away. [04:54] WTF? My touchpad just suddenly lost ALL its settings! [04:54] oh [04:54] Now it has tapping on, and scrolling doesn't work -- it's like Synaptics module isn't loaded. [04:54] DanaG: use echo "package | dpkg --set-selections [04:55] i alawys forget that [04:55] [ 2373.097080] psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away. [ 2373.602814] psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request [ 2376.662777] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 5.9, id: 0x23aeb3, caps: 0xa04713/0x10008 [ 2376.696097] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input9 [04:56] Apparently input-hotplug doesn't reattach to touchpad devices. [04:57] Great, now I'm going to be gettign random clicking overtyping parts of my document! [04:59] Hmm, vt-switch away from and back to Xorg fixed it. [04:59] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/119194 [04:59] Launchpad bug 119194 in linux-source-2.6.20 "ps2 mouse erratic - parity errors" [High,Confirmed] [05:00] Perhaps I should add plain "Linux" to it. [05:05] Anybody else here have a broken language-support-writing-en ? [05:19] so is anyone else stuck in an infinite update loop when the updated libesd-alsa0 or is it just my computer? [05:23] gil: yes [05:27] gil: just to be sure: bug 192310 [05:27] Launchpad bug 192310 in hyphen "package openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hyph_en_US.dic', which is also in package openoffice.org-hyphenation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192310 [05:35] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> my lap's power button stop working with the new kernel :( [05:37] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> anybody knows how could i find some log to file a bug report? [05:38] dmesg, see if there is anting interesting at the end [05:40] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> CarlFK, k, let me c... [05:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> CarlFK, what this means? python[7079]: segfault at 00000000 eip b6cc8b66 esp bf92b6b0 error 4 [05:42] 'bad' [05:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> CarlFK, ... related to the power button issue? [05:44] well, segfault means something crashed, and to some extent you shouldn't be surprised if anything after that dosn;t work [05:44] hit the button again, see if it adds another line [05:44] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> k, a sec [05:45] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> no, still the same [05:46] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> CarlFK, what doesnt work here is the power button doesnt call the logout/shutdown window, but if i keep pressing it, it will just shut the power off [05:46] "keep pressing=off" is a hardware thing, so that is expected [05:46] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ok [05:47] python[7079] - 7079 is the process ID [05:47] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> well, actually i also get this line after that line : python[7064]: segfault at 00000000 eip b6cd4b66 esp bfe283b0 error 4 [05:48] reboot, dmesg (make sure there is no segfault) "ps auxw", hit the button, dmesg, hope to see seg... [05:48] good. [05:48] forget all that :) [05:48] ps auxw [05:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> now? [05:48] yes [05:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> u wanna me pastebin? [05:49] hit the button, dmesg, look for process ID, look at ps output, see what the whole line was that used to be running [05:49] sure [05:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> k a sec [05:49] just the last 20 lines [05:49] dmesg|tail|xclip [05:50] that will.. tell you xclip not installed :) [05:50] so never mind [05:51] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> k, this is what i got from ps auxw http://pastebin.com/m48c0aec [05:52] hit button, dmesg, what is the segfualt line? (or just the [pid] [05:52] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> still those two lines [05:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> and [ 9580.388396] usb 7-2: USB disconnect, address 3, this line is also there when i hit it before [05:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> and it's actually the last line [05:55] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> CarlFK, rebooting, brb [05:55] k [06:01] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> CarlFK, ok, after reboot, the seg is gone [06:01] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> after i hit the button [06:02] what's the last line of dmesg? [06:02] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> [ 51.135110] groups: 02 01 [06:03] well thats not very intersting :) [06:04] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ok.. [06:04] i guess you have 2 problems - power button and whatever is causing the segfault [06:05] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> here is the last few lines of dmesg http://pastebin.com/m3f474f05 [06:05] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> the seg fault may caused by awn [06:05] Hobbsee: $10 is a fair price for your work since you will not be able to reproduce a problem anyway [06:09] ? [06:27] what the hell? "ctrl-z" just got stuck! [06:28] bug 124406 [06:28] Launchpad bug 124406 in ubuntu "Keyboard keys get stuck and repeat (Feisty, Gutsy)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124406 [06:28] I'd call that rather critical. [06:28] Imagine if you were working with files and 'delete' got stuck! [06:28] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> CarlFK, ok, gnome-keybinding-properties recognize the power key, but it just wont do any actions that i assign to it [06:30] Hey all, does anyone know anything about alsactrl store locking up the system? [06:30] hangs up everything, worse, it runs on shutdown and GUI reloading :( [06:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> CarlFK, dont know if u r still there, i tried use lshal -m and for the power key it shows: 23:40:56.762: computer_logicaldev_input_2 condition ButtonPressed = power [06:43] Ugh, I so hate OpenOffice's buggy page wrapping. [06:45] Oh, and now my window borders are going white. [06:47] [Hardy]TuTUXG: sounds like you have a bug report - not a great one, but good enough [06:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> CarlFK, um... im so lazy to do that, but looks like i have no choice === anthony is now known as tonyyarusso [07:11] Hey all, I finnaly got Hardy running pretty decent, audio now works, as does Wine if you use the Gutsy version :-P === sourcode_ is now known as sourcode [07:42] anyone notice there is no /lib/modules/2.6.24-11-generic/"build" [07:48] Hi, is it ok to modify sources.list to upgrade to hardy? [07:51] Where to read more about roadmap and release dates? [07:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule [07:56] thank you! [08:04] whats the best thing to do if my dhcp3 is broken? (broken from the update a couple of days agoo) === Sliss__ is now known as Sliss [10:12] Is there someone who can explain why hibernate broken in last kernel? [10:13] yes [10:13] O_O [10:13] explain please! [10:13] i didnt say it was me [10:13] =) [10:13] :o) [10:14] but perhaps a fifty minute lecture from mjg would be instructive [10:14] basically, it's amazing it ever worked [10:14] I want fix this issue( [10:15] http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2008/Fri/mel8-139.ogg [10:15] under 2.6.24.5 all works out of box. [10:15] i find it amazing it works under any OS at all. :) [10:15] basically the current system is random whether it works or freezes entirely [10:15] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> does osx have s2disk? [10:16] by doing something intelligent [10:16] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i mean hibernate [10:16] like having a mini kernel write the current state to disk [10:17] that link is a video by what I'll call Ubuntu's suspend expert [10:17] the title is Suspend to Disk [10:17] Why it doesn't work, can't work and never worked in the first place [10:17] (and what to do about it) [10:18] is the subtitle [10:20] key point: The freezer is unreliable and cannot sensibly be made reliable [10:22] pwnguin: you're speaking geek to a guy that just wants to hibernate his desktop :P [10:22] !info wine [10:22] wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.55-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 34871 kB, installed size 108000 kB [10:23] Amaranth: its the only sensible option left [10:24] canonical's out in left field with moblin because intel's paying them to stand there [10:24] Amaranth: is compiz-fusion in freeze? [10:24] what freeze? [10:25] the kind that doesnt let me add filters to colorfilter? [10:25] oh, that was you [10:25] yes [10:25] mvo told me he got a generic freeze exception for compiz for this release [10:25] heh [10:25] but i dunno about compiz-fusion, they haven't made a committment to only bug fixes [10:26] i dont see how that could break anything [10:26] its not even code [10:26] compiz has had an 0.7 release and stated that the road to 0.8 is only bug fixing so... [10:26] well, i guess it sorta is [10:26] pwnguin: it still needs an exception request [10:26] and it is code [10:26] code that could theoretically lock up your GPU [10:26] but it appears to be interpreted and has been around since august of last year [10:26] Code that can happily bring down the rest of compiz [10:27] is it? [10:27] pwnguin: anyway, you have to file the exception request [10:27] sure [10:28] RAOF: is it cg or something? [10:29] Lovely lovely shaders. [10:29] i guess what i dont understand is how they weren't included before [10:29] ie: Dear GPU. Please run this code on each pixel you push. [10:29] right [10:32] I don't know why they weren't included in the first place. [10:33] from what i can see, the compiz fusion plugins pacakge is weird [10:33] doesn't match the gitweb layout [10:34] They do crazy commit hook things. The various plugin packages are checked out from the individual repositories. [10:41] what i find strange is that colorfilter was an ubuntu project [10:41] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/color-filters [10:43] and i dare say quite a successful one === Mohero|sleep is now known as Mohero [10:44] but still fell through the cracks =( [10:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> new kernel~ [10:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> 2.6.24-11 === kalpik_ is now known as kalpik [11:05] why is update manager trying to install a -386 kernel on my system? (I shouldn't have any dependencies) [11:05] I blame linux-restricted-modules-common or nvidia-glx-new [11:07] Hmm neither of those appear to... Rubbish [11:09] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> bug? [11:11] Oli``: It's possible that you don't have the "linux" package installed? nvidia-gle-new will be depending on linux-restricted-modules-386 | linux-generic-modules-generic, which means that apt has to pick one of those if you don't already have it installed. === davi_ is now known as davi [11:20] I'm on generic and have been for a long time RAOF. I usually see -generic kernel updates but once every so often, a nasty little -386 kernel finds its way through my updates and ruins my day [11:20] but yes, it is nvidia-glx-new causing the problem... [11:21] Or at least, it's a problem because linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-11-generic hasn't been released [11:22] Because linux-image-2.6.24-11-generic hasn't been released either [11:24] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> how come i cant listen to music while im watching videos? [11:25] [Hardy]TuTUXG: your soundcard dosen't have good enough driver or something is bugged [11:26] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> rsk, or should i use esd? [11:26] NO [11:26] use pulseaudio [11:26] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> rsk, ok [11:27] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> rsk, so i souldnt enable esd? [11:28] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> rsk, no luck with pulseaudio [11:30] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> um, it's annoying [11:30] o/ [11:30] sure is [11:30] that's why i bought an emu10k card 3 years ago [11:30] not a single glitch since then [11:30] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i havent notice that, till just few mins ago [11:30] 10euro :) [11:30] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> rsk, while im on my laptop [11:31] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i mean well* [11:32] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> rsk, i should use HDA Intel as my sound device right? [11:32] sure [11:33] sounds resonable [11:33] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i also have Playback: ALSA PCM on front...(bla bla) [11:33] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i didnt have so many options with my old laptop tho [11:33] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> only alsa or oss [11:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> rsk, figure it out [11:48] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> xmms was using oss as output [11:50] wierd konversation takes 10 secs to display [11:52] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> how could i change the output driver for quod libet? [11:54] does anyone have problems with gnome-system-daemon not starting after upgrade to version 2.21.91? [11:59] can anyone help with my resoultion settings [12:01] if i go into system settings then to moniter manager it says something about an orphaned module [12:05] can anyone help with my resoultion settings [12:05] olie: have a look through launchpad - I think this is a known bug. [12:06] ok [12:06] (I have it also - no Idea how to fix it though) [12:14] just went from gutsy to hardy and now my system thinks i want to handle music cds with banshee instead of sound-juicer; can anyone remind me where that can be adjusted? [12:15] jussi01: ive looked through launchpad but to no avail [12:15] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> juri__, system->preferences->prefered applications [12:16] [Hardy]TuTUXG: can't see it there, there's "multimedia player" but that points to rhythmbox [12:16] it wasn't in removable drives and media either [12:20] gconf-editor tells me i do have desktop->gnome->volume_manager->autoplay_cda set to true and autoplay_cda_command set to sound-juicer, but apparently that doesn't have the desired effect anymore [12:22] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> juri__, that's really wired [12:24] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> juri__, seems like they are doing some change [12:24] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> juri__, those options should be under gnome-volume-properties [12:24] yeah, so i thought too [12:25] but all i get there are the tabs "Camers", "PDAs", "Printers & Scanners" and "Input Devices" [12:26] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> me too [12:26] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> im pretty sure i used to have options for ipod and cdrom under there [12:27] juri__: open up gconf-editor, tell it to search for "banshee" in key values [12:27] see if it shows up somewhere interesting [12:27] seems to be a problem with todays linux-image-2.6.24-11-generic update [12:27] it updates, but breaks X and wireless networking [12:28] hmuller: You apparently missed the linux-ubuntu-modules and linux-restricted-modules parts [12:28] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> hmuller, they havent release the restricted module for the new kernel [12:28] The linux-restricted-modules updated [12:28] [Hardy]TuTUXG: yes they have, i have it here [12:28] linux-ubuntu-modules did not [12:28] Amaranth: thanks, should have remembered to do that myself... however, no luck: all the hits i get are under /apps/banshee and /schames/apps/banshee [12:29] Amaranth: thanks for the updatr [12:29] Amaranth: any idea if there's plans to make compiz start faster? [12:29] [Hardy]TuTUXG: but the metapackages did not get updated so if you have nvidia-glx(-new) and blindly upgrade you'll get the -386 versions of image and restricted and won't get the linux-ubuntu-modules [12:29] Hobbsee: afaik the two main hits are loading all the plugins off disk and copying the pixmaps into textures [12:29] (schemas too) [12:30] Hobbsee: driver improvements will fix the latter, i don't see a way to fix the former [12:30] Amaranth: any good way to speed it up? [12:30] * Hobbsee ponders turning off some plugsin then [12:30] Amaranth: so it takes ~30 seconds to start gnome with compiz for you too? [12:30] Hobbsee: not quite that bad but it's pretty bad [12:31] Hobbsee: basically adding compiz in gutsy completely blew the startup and login speed improvements of feisty and gutsy [12:31] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Amaranth, so the linux-ubuntu-modules hasnt been released? [12:31] it apepars to blow up a bit of compiz is set to start later [12:31] [Hardy]TuTUXG: it has [12:31] Amaranth: for amd64? [12:31] [Hardy]TuTUXG: the metapackages are not correct so you have to install all the stuff manually [12:31] hmuller: *shrug* [12:31] core duo [12:32] * Hobbsee ponders purging it then [12:32] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> well then i ll wait till they fix this [12:32] creating custom debian live cds is fun [12:32] Hobbsee: make sure you set your WM back to metacity in appearance properties first [12:32] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Amaranth, how about custom ubuntu live cd? [12:32] Hobbsee: actually if you do that you don't even have to uninstall it :P [12:32] Amaranth: i like shiny though. fast shiny. [12:32] and i think gnome-session still does bad things if you uninstall it [12:33] [Hardy]TuTUXG: hah [12:33] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Amaranth, maybe not so easy as with debian i guess [12:33] [Hardy]TuTUXG: afaik anything beyond modifying existing CDs (which is just a chroot and recompress) is secret sauce [12:33] you can't build them from scratch like ubuntu does [12:34] (and url-handler for cdda is also set to sound-juicer) [12:34] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Amaranth, but u can do that with debian, cant u? [12:34] [Hardy]TuTUXG: yep, with live-helper [12:35]