/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/02/#ubuntu-ops.txt

jussi01Seveas: still up?00:14
=== nickrud_ is now known as nickrud
tonyyarussovorian: you awake still?05:48
voriantonyyarusso: yes05:49
vorianwhat's up?05:49
tonyyarussovorian: remember that supybot thing from a while back?05:49
vorianthe rss atom feed reader?05:49
tonyyarussoyeah05:49
vorianyes05:49
tonyyarussoI'm finally getting around to looking into it.  You sent me a couple of files, but didn't include any real description of what you found, what you needed to do, etc.  Care to give some insight about what I should do with those files / why?05:50
vorianlemme check on that05:52
tonyyarussoWhat, you don't remember things from months ago to the minute detail?  :P05:52
* tonyyarusso can barely remember breakfast, so...05:52
voriantonyyarusso: iirc, I found it in the supybot cvs on sf.net05:57
tonyyarussoyeah, but what's different, and what do I need to do with it?05:58
vorianreplace the rss plugin in your plugin directory05:59
vorianthen flush the bot05:59
voriantonyyarusso: I'll see if I can dig up the actual code sunday06:00
vorianor later today :P06:00
tonyyarussoWhile it's already up and running?06:00
* vorian needs sleep06:00
tonyyarussovorian: I still have the code you sent me.  Just pondering how to use it.06:00
vorianreplace it06:00
vorianthen flush the bot06:00
tonyyarussoand by "flush", does "restart" qualify, or is that something else?06:00
vorianin your bot window just type /flush06:01
tonyyarussobot window being on the console or in a query with it?06:01
voriantonyyarusso: which channel is said bot on?  :)06:01
tonyyarussonone right at the moment.  will be ##tonyyarusso and probably #ubuntu-us-mn06:02
voriani see06:02
vorianyou could kill it then, and restart it06:02
tonyyarussoI'll try that.06:03
vorianweee06:03
tonyyarussovorian: oh, one other thing - any idea whether I can use feeds that require HTTP authentication?06:16
vorianhmmm06:17
voriannope06:17
voriansorry :(06:17
tonyyarussovorian: Answer: Yes!  Score!06:20
* tonyyarusso does a dance06:20
tonyyarussomy only concern is that I need to make sure it won't display the config url in a channel, since that of course now has a username and password in it.06:21
=== anthony is now known as tonyyarusso
emmaHello.08:07
emmawill it be okay if I idle in here?08:07
Myrttino?08:07
Myrttisee topic08:07
emmawhy not?08:07
emmaOkay let me read that..08:07
Myrttiunless you've got a really really good reason08:07
Myrtti*really* good one08:08
emmaOkay that clarifies things. Thanks. :)08:08
Myrttiyou know what I just did?08:10
MyrttiI made an init.d script for irssi \o/08:10
Myrttiwoooooooooo oooo oo08:10
Myrttiooo08:10
MyrttimuhahahahahahahHAHAHHAAAAAA *evil*08:10
Myrttibwahaha08:10
Myrttiyou know what's evil?08:11
nickrudpointless stuff ;)08:11
Myrttior I can't understand this08:11
MyrttiI do know the reasoning08:11
Myrttibut I dislike the fact that even in irssi configuration in Gutsy, there's the network irc.ubuntu.com 6667, but no freenode08:12
nickrudI thought that was a forward ...08:13
nickrudor whatever the canonical name for pointing at another network is08:14
Myrttiit is08:14
Myrttibut almost every documentation EXCEPT the ones on the clients themselves refer to freenode08:15
Myrttiand probably not even there08:15
nickrudheh. Lots of bugs to file then08:16
Myrttiso say that a person has a problem with... exaile on their ubuntu08:18
Myrttithey use say... irssi and connect to "Ubuntu" network08:18
Myrttithey join #ubuntu "Hey I've got a problem with my exaile, it's xyz" "oh, I haven't seen that, go ask guys in #exaile"08:19
Myrtti"which network" "freenode" "I haven't got that in my irssi..."08:20
Myrttid'oh.08:20
nickrudhm. Don't remember if I had to add freenode to xchat or not. I usually set up for kubrick, it's in town08:22
Myrttiwell there's "Ubuntu", IRCnet, EFnet, Undernet, Dalnet and Quakenet in irssi08:23
Myrttipristine installation in Gutsy08:23
MyrttiI don't like this forwarding idea at all08:24
Myrttiit's confusing to say the least08:24
nickrudthere's dozens in xchat . I have a freenode but ...08:24
Myrttiso who's Most Excellent Idea was it to put it as "Ubuntu" in irssi :-P08:26
nickrudheh. Who's the highest we can blame?08:26
Myrttidoes sabdfl use irssi ;-)08:26
tonyyarussoWhose Most Excellent Idea was it to remove irssi from the default install and make Pidgin of all bloody things the default IRC client?08:27
tonyyarussoNo, sabdfl apparently thinks Pidgin is the Second Coming.  :P08:27
MyrttiI don't mind irssi not being in the default install08:27
Myrttibut Pidgin FCOL08:27
nickrudfcol? A new one for me08:28
Myrttifor crying out loud08:28
MyrttiI might even add the !ohmy acronym08:28
MyrttiFFS08:28
MyrttiPidgin of all the accursed clients in the world08:28
Myrttieven xchat-gnome would probably be a better choice08:29
Myrttior Chatzilla surely08:29
Myrttiargh.08:29
nickrudfor irc. But, most ubuntu users don't irc anyway08:29
Myrttifor irc08:29
Myrttimany, many do. atleast here in Finland08:30
nickrudof course, I do hate trying to talk to pidginers08:30
Myrttieven mIRC would be better.08:30
MyrttimIRC is loverly08:30
Myrttioh the good old times08:30
nickrudno nick highlighting from what I hear. So, brainstorm anyone?08:30
Myrttiif they have to have pidgin as the default for irc, why don't they default install all the scripts too?08:31
Myrttithere's plenty of them making the ircing experience on it better08:31
Myrttihighligh, irchelper, ircmore, irssi features, join/part hiding, markerline, nicksaid, text replacement, etc08:33
nickrudheh. All the things an irc client should have by default.08:34
Myrttiindeed08:34
nickrudexcept for the irssi features08:34
MyrttiI don't know what they are08:34
Myrttimight be good ones08:34
nickrudyou're pretty calm. that was a dis of irssi ;)08:36
MyrttiI've mellowed during the last 6mo08:36
nickrudI'm off to bed, it's past midnight here. 08:38
Myrttihah, the irssi init works perfectly08:41
Tm_Tjussi01: hi?10:10
jpatrickelkbuntu: heh, I was about to call the ops about uunbeatable10:19
jpatrickhe spammed #k-ot10:20
elkbuntujpatrick, i got his PMs with my alt nick, and #freenode is now inundated with complaints about it10:21
jpatrickelkbuntu: thrown out for #kubuntu, he appears to be trying to spam #u-ot10:22
jpatrick"#kde *!*@116.71.181.161 Channel ban list is full"10:26
elkbuntujpatrick, clear some old dynamic bans then :Þ10:28
HobbseeMyrtti: the idea is so that if we ever had to move networks, we could do so easily10:28
Hobbseetonyyarusso: space.10:29
jpatrickelkbuntu: just makes me wonder how #ubuntu's banlist got so big10:29
jpatrickah, +L10:30
MyrttiHobbsee: I know that10:31
MyrttiHobbsee: but I can't understand why there isn't freenode at all then10:32
Hobbseegood quesiton10:32
Myrtti10:11 -'@: I do know the reasoning10:33
Myrtti10:12 -'@: but I dislike the fact that even in irssi configuration in Gutsy, there's the network irc.ubuntu.com 6667, but no freenode10:33
Myrttithat Just Doesn't Make Sense10:33
HobbseePriceChild: emma was trying to bait you, btw.10:35
* elkbuntu hopes that it's irc.ubuntu.com 8001 in hardy10:36
elkbuntuPriceChild, did you cross-tag that bug for all irc clients, or just the xchat ones?10:37
Hobbseeit was all irc10:37
* Hobbsee got notification of it10:37
elkbuntuexcellent10:37
elkbuntui cant be arsed searchign for it atm10:37
elkbuntubut i know someone fixed xchat, but neglected xchat-gnome despite the patch provided, which was stupid10:38
Myrtti/me makes a mental note that this channel is publicly logged10:44
jpatrickHobbsee: from -motu: +b *!*@unaffiliated/kmos +b %*!*@unaffiliated/kmos ?10:45
Hobbseejpatrick: yeah, it's a quiet10:46
jpatrickHobbsee: and a ban10:46
Hobbseeoh10:47
Hobbseejpatrick: thanks10:51
jpatrickHobbsee: I'm in ban clearing mode10:52
Hobbseeheh10:52
Hobbseethere shouldn't be many bans in -motu10:52
jpatrickyeah10:53
* jpatrick wonders what emma was doing in #ubuntu-es10:55
elkbuntuwaiting for a chance to spam about -uncensored probably10:56
jpatrickhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58080/11:02
jpatrickno comment...11:02
jpatrickPriceChild: even you got a mention^11:03
elkbuntuwhat does that last line mean?11:05
jpatrickAhh, P3L|C4N0 the spanish version of Pr!ceChild, the Authority11:05
elkbuntulol11:05
elkbuntuauthority is a feminine word?11:06
jpatrickmost words ending in -dad are11:07
elkbuntuooh, i'll remember that11:07
jpatrick"la Comunidad"11:07
elkbuntuit's still strange that authority is female in a very patriarchal society11:08
elkbuntui annoy effrain with stupid questions and statements like this all the time :)11:09
elkbuntuerr, s/ff/f/11:10
jpatrickefrain's a good guy11:10
elkbuntuyep11:10
elkbuntupity he has such a hard time trying to keep rolando's ambitions seperate from the -ve loco11:11
jpatrickjussi01: the guy uses this: http://www.openfsg.com/ - for his irssi11:14
jpatrickjussi01: however if, you need something cheaper: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/11:17
ubotujpatrick called the ops in #ubuntu (boc_)11:20
ompaul!staff11:21
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)11:21
ompaul* ChanServ gives channel operator status to ompaul11:21
ompaul* boc_ (n=root@92.80.12.123) has left #ubuntu (requested by ompaul)11:21
ompaul* ompaul sets ban on *!*@92.80.12.12311:21
ompaulspammer11:21
jpatrickand http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58081/ too11:22
jpatrickheh, boc_ just /join-ed  #kde11:25
ompauljpatrick, and you banned on sight?11:26
jpatrickompaul: yeah, kinda..11:26
ompaulkinda11:26
* ompaul gives up11:26
jpatrickompaul: see #frenode11:26
Garyompaul: trying to get it sorted11:27
ompaulack11:28
jussi01jpatrick: thanks. I think Im going to get one of those tux things that no0tic mentioned :D (http://www.acmesystems.it/?id=21)11:32
ompaulwhere can you buy tghem11:37
ompaulfound it11:37
jussi01:D11:38
elkbuntujpatrick, those openfsg things look awesome, but i cant quite validate $400 for a router :-/11:40
jpatrickelkbuntu: why he recommended me the cheaper one :)11:40
elkbuntui need to get me a better router. mine is a piece of trash11:45
jpatrickso's mine (has no access to it) and the wifi range has gone down11:46
ompauljpatrick, nmap it 11:47
jpatrickompaul: interesting..11:49
ompauljpatrick, why?11:49
elkbuntujpatrick, i've got a dsl 604t. it's the stupidest piece of network hardware i've ever touched11:49
jpatrickompaul: well, the ISP gave us a username and passwd for it, but they've never worked11:49
ompauljpatrick, what is the router type?11:50
elkbuntujpatrick, ssh + john :)11:50
* ompaul wonders what reset buttons are for11:50
jpatrickelkbuntu: has no ssh according to nmap, only telnet11:51
elkbuntueww11:51
ompauljpatrick, try telnet IP 8011:51
ompaulor try putting in its address to a web browser11:51
ompaulsounds reallllly old11:51
jpatrickompaul: those both bring up a passwd dialog11:52
ompauljpatrick, what is the model number11:52
ompauljpatrick, at least stick those values into google - try username: admin pass: admin or 1234 11:54
jpatrickompaul: 1234 worked..11:54
ompaulheh11:54
ompaulthe other username and password is more than likely the logon to the adsl system of the ISP11:54
ompauldump your firmware to a backup - explode it and grep it for password strings11:55
ompaulwhen I was a lad you could actually get machines that needed you to program binary11:55
ompaulnow look at it11:55
ompauljpatrick, make sure wireless is WPA or else don't use it11:56
ompauljpatrick, wep is like wrapping money up in a paper bag and thinking it is secure11:56
jpatrickompaul: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/cooltony/zyxel/zyxel_en.htm it's one of these11:57
ompauljpatrick, zyxel make good hardware (I have yet to find one of their pieces to be badly made)11:57
ompaulnot open but generally not abd11:57
ompauljpatrick, the 630?11:58
jpatrickompaul: 65011:58
ompaulsorry I have a 630 here and a couple of linksys but that is the kind of chap I am 11:59
jpatrickoh this is fun12:00
* jpatrick enables all the cool stuff12:00
ompauljpatrick, careful the password they want you to use is for your login to them12:01
ompaulcheck out the values in those fields12:01
jpatrickOld Password= ?12:04
jpatricketc12:05
white_eaglehello, will you remove the ban from #ubuntu-offtopic for me?12:05
white_eagleits there for a week or so12:05
Seveaswhite_eagle, what was the reason for the ban?12:06
white_eagleI mistakenly sent ctcp ping to the whole channel, I was used to do /ping in xchat and the client would ping me only, but in irssi, it pinged the whole channel, and this was the 3th time12:07
Seveaswhite_eagle, so you pinged the channel three times?12:07
Seveaswell, then don't anser12:07
Seveaswwwwwwwww12:07
Seveasah, it works :)12:08
elkbuntuhehe12:08
elkbuntujpatrick, i kind of wonder in which ways i'll be able to mess around with my stupid dsl-604t once i get a respectable replacement, but i dont think many :(12:09
white_eaglehello?12:09
white_eagleI reconnected12:09
white_eagledid you say something12:09
Seveaswhite_eagle, so you pinged the channel three times?12:09
Seveasdoing that once could be an accident12:09
Seveastwice is just stupid12:09
white_eagleSeveas: it wasn't my intention12:10
white_eagleto12:10
white_eagledo that12:10
Seveasbut at three times, I generally stop beleiving in innocence12:10
white_eagleI just got used to xchat12:10
Seveaswhite_eagle, I'm not beleiving you, given that you have a history of bot abuse12:10
Seveasand kicks12:10
white_eagleSeveas: ok, don't remove it then, its your choice12:11
white_eaglebye12:11
jpatrickelkbuntu: well, I finally have dhcp now12:19
elkbuntujpatrick, hehehe12:20
elkbuntujpatrick, my problem is, that's all i have. it would continually give the mac addresses i registered as static, new ips12:20
* jpatrick has an even bigger problem now12:21
elkbuntuwhich is?12:21
jpatrickwell, the router closed the telnet..12:23
jpatrickbut restart and it's back *phew*12:23
Tm_Thi kids12:30
jussi01heya Tm_T 12:32
jpatrick!staff | more dalnet ##linux guys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58092/12:33
ubotumore dalnet ##linux guys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58092/: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)12:33
ompaul!staff |  <FarooqSb> ##Linux on Dalnet etc13:07
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)13:07
Hobbseeompaul: clearly you shouldn't have given up your staffing rights13:10
ompaulHobbsee, no, clearly I should have!13:10
jussi01Hmm, Im off for a bit. Someone might want to keep an eye on #k :) (jpatrick Im looking at you :P )13:25
Dave2gone13:27
ompaulDave2, no no my my,  see farooqsb13:28
Dave2?13:29
ompaulthat ping from earlier 13:29
Dave2<-- FarooqSb (n=FarooqSb@202.125.143.65) has quit (K-lined)13:29
Dave2that's what I meant13:29
ompaulgood :)13:29
ompaulI thought you were going :)13:29
hikenboothello I have made the change requestd by the ubuntu bot to port 8001 on irc.freenode.net/800114:27
hikenbootit still connects after a restart to the old port14:27
jussi01hikenboot: which bot? where?14:41
jpatrickjussi01: probaly #ubuntu-read-topic14:42
jussi01aye...14:42
jussi01still sleepy14:42
jpatrickhikenboot: what client do you use?14:54
jpatrickhi Jack_Sparrow 15:45
Jack_SparrowHi jpatrick 16:17
Jack_SparrowI have been stopping in when I feel up to it..16:17
Jack_SparrowTough month..16:17
PriceChildelkbuntu: xchat-gnome was sorted. (its in main so the motu who did xchat couldn't do it)16:19
PriceChildelkbuntu: I only tagged the clients I knew were affected, we should probably go through as many as we can find.16:20
PriceChildI am "the Authority"? 8-)16:21
ubotuIn #ubuntu, tuxnoob080302 said: !patience is an 'Invalid command' Ha17:28
jussi01hmmm, lovely, we have a "shitbreak" in #ubuntu19:34
ompauljussi01, not any more19:36
nickrudompaul: that was drastic. Didn't even give him a chance to cange19:36
ompaulnickrud, na - it is please come here and understand our community19:36
ompaulor don't troll it19:36
jussi01!opsnack | ompaul 19:36
ubotuompaul: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!19:36
ompaulcan't eat the first - but can eat the second19:36
ompaulshitbreak, please change your nick and ident before you will let into #ubuntu19:37
nickrudshitbreak: change your nick19:37
shitbreakaa19:37
shitbreakok19:37
=== shitbreak is now known as juhap
juhapis it better now?19:37
juhapand ident19:37
ompauland the realname shitbrea19:37
juhapokay.19:38
ompaul!guidlines > juhap19:38
ompaulon return after 5 mins lift the ban19:38
ompaulnickrud, I am reasonable it was not an outright ban :)19:38
ompaulit was come here and know what we will and won't accept19:38
nickrudompaul: at least he knew to come here19:38
ompaulnickrud, no he was ban forwarded19:39
jussi01was it not a forward=?19:39
jussi01heh19:39
ompaulon an attempt to join the channel he is diverted by the chanserv the traffic cop to here19:39
nickrudompaul: missed the foward part. Need to read all19:39
ompaul;-)19:39
ompaulnickrud, I am not that drastic 19:39
nickrudirish dander, I fear it ;)19:40
ompaulnickrud, that goes for anyone with f*k and s*t in their quit message as much as in their nick19:40
ompauljust ban forward here19:40
nickrudk19:40
ompaulmostly you will find it to be trollish behaviour19:40
Seveas--- Seveas sets ban on *!*@116.58.17.3919:40
Seveas<RajaFahad> ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnd join ##Linux. Be there for some time.19:40
Seveasgot that in pm19:40
ompaulSeveas, we getting them all day19:40
naliothSeveas: klined19:41
Seveashaven't seen them in a while19:41
naliothfserve, indeed19:43
no0ticSeveas, I got it too19:48
pressenterPriceChild: Sorry, i was out for a week holidays. Whats up?19:58
pressenterTm_T: #ubuntu-pl op19:59
nixternalnalioth: you seeing these idiots from dalnet spamming ##Linux in pm's?20:13
naliothnixternal: right now?20:13
nixternalyes20:13
nixternalalferedh20:13
nixternalI woke up this morning to about 5 of them20:14
naliothnixternal: history (scroll up)20:14
naliothnixternal: he's not in ##linux 20:15
nixternalno, he is spamming it for ##Linux on Dalnet20:15
naliothnixternal: all i need to know is "spam"20:15
nalioththis ##linux spamming from dalnet is very confusing20:15
naliothi've gottne multiple PMs from folks on both networks thinking i'm able to do something20:15
naliothso just "spammer"20:16
nixternalok, spmmer20:16
nixternalerr, spammer20:16
LjLnalioth, he's simply someone PM'ing people (me included) with this20:22
LjL[21:10:56] <AlferedH> ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dal.net) and join ##Linux. More flexible, more firendly Be there for some time..20:22
jussi01I got the same20:22
LjLhe did it before with me with another nickname, [Sun 02 Mar 13:32:35](FarooqSb)20:23
jussi01LjL: [03/02/08 15:27:30] <+Dave2> <-- FarooqSb (n=FarooqSb@202.125.143.65) has quit (K-lined)20:23
LjLseenserv says he former was klined20:23
LjLyeah20:23
Seeker`is ##linux on dal a "legit" channel?20:26
naliothLjL: yes, he has been kline evading and doing it for days now20:27
ompaulSeeker`, is dal a legit network  :)20:27
Seeker`ompaul: I dont know20:27
Seeker`This is the only network I;ve used in years20:27
ompaulSeeker`, my point, if I had been more verbose was, that is a different network so complaining there might or might not be useful however we got the problem here20:28
naliothhe's klined there, too20:28
Seeker`I was wondering if ##linux on DAL was a sensible channel, or something someone has set up for the purpose of spamming20:29
naliothkline evading works on all networks, you see20:29
nalioth<sigh>20:29
naliothATTENTION20:29
* nickrud sits upright20:29
naliothTHE ##LINUX-ON-DALNET SPAMMER IS ATTEMPTING A SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST ##LINUX ON DAL.NET20:29
no0tic?20:30
naliothhe is a common troll, doing a common troll20:30
ompaulicanhasadmin << that has to be the best nick I have seen in a while20:30
no0ticompaul, lol20:30
ompaulnalioth, Seveas what does this do? <coffeeTom>     /SET print_active_channel ON21:30
ompaulsomeone logging to paper?21:30
naliothompaul: i have no idea21:30
Seveasno idea21:30
Seveasit's not an xchat thing21:30
ompaulthere is that21:30
no0ticompaul, I'll check21:30
no0ticompaul, on irssi21:30
* ompaul uses uncle google21:30
no0ticompaul,   print_active_channel = OFF21:31
no0tic    Always print the channel with the nickname (like <nick:channel>)21:31
no0tic    even if the message is from the channel you currently have active.21:31
ompaulno0tic, ack21:32
naliothno0tic: what does that mean in a human language?21:32
no0ticevery nick sending a privmsg to a channel is formatted like <nick:channel> instead of <nick>21:33
naliothah21:33
no0tichttp://no0tic.homelinux.org/~no0tic/irssi-settings.txt21:34
no0tican explanation of almost all irssi settings21:34
ubotuIn #ubuntu, Jack_Sparrow said: !envy is a terrible idea22:18
Piciyes, yes it is.22:18
Jack_SparrowDarn22:19
Jack_Sparrowfor got to target it..22:19
jdongthe new EnvyNG thing looks like a move in the right direction22:26
Jack_SparrowImprovements are always welcome..22:27
jdongYeah, it definitely looks like the author has Ubuntu's best interests in mind and try hard to improve and take advice22:28
jdonghttp://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=16322:28
jdonghis special thanks section shows a great deal of collaboration with developers22:28
PriceChildpressenter: there was a user wanting to talk about a ban, he hasn't been back so i assume its resolved. Thanks for getting back to me.23:11
pressenterPriceChild: He's been comming here like 4 times now, i've told him that the ban stays. I see that he has not learned a thing, he's still annoying.23:25
PriceChildI remember last time a place was discovered ripping planet posts and rebranding/sticking advertising on.23:59
PriceChildThe people making a fuss got laughed at.... I wonder why its different this time.23:59

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