[00:02] <ScottK> alstone: Those are amavisd-new complaining clamd isn't running.  So far there is no evidence about why it stops.
[00:02] <ScottK> It doesn't appear to crash.  Something, I think, is telling it to stop.
[00:13] <alstone> hmmmmm
[00:14] <alstone> but it is running
[00:14] <alstone> but that socket file isn't being created
[00:16] <ScottK> alstone: Why do you think it's running.  The ps -AF|grep clam we did earlier didn't show a process for it.
[00:16] <ScottK> alstone: The clamav logs show it running and then being stopped.
[00:16] <ScottK> (which is when the pid and socket files go away).
[00:19] <alstone> but it is there in ps
[00:20] <alstone> oh your right is it freshclamav that is running
[00:20] <alstone> er freshclam
[00:22] <ScottK> Yes.  No clamd
[00:23] <ScottK> What you want is something like:
[00:23] <ScottK> clamav   12374     1  0 25781 84204   0 Feb13 ?        00:20:43 /usr/sbin/clamd
[00:25] <alstone> right
[02:36] <mohamed_> hi , i installed ubuntu server on old pc and adjust it well but when i reboot i get error message " kernel panic - not syncing : vfs : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) " anyone can help me fix this ?
[02:40] <faulkes-> use recovery mode if possible or use a rescue cd to repair
[02:41] <mohamed_> yes, faulkes- , but how to repair it ?
[03:23] <faulkes-> check to see where it is supposed to boot from, check the partition table, check grub
[03:28] <faulkes-> repair the superblock if needed
[04:08] <alapidas> Has anyone had any issues installing ubuntu server (jeos) gusty in vmware?
[04:14] <faulkes-> if you are having specific issues, it is better to detail them rather than ask a general question
[04:57] <soulc> how do I tell what this connect is doing?
[04:57] <soulc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58065/
[05:00] <soulc> be back later to check in
[05:28] <ScottK> lamont: I've about got a backport for Postfix 2.5.1 all queued up.  I read yesterday on postfix-users about some poor soul having trouble compiling it from source on Feisty and so I decided to take pity...
[06:21] <firecrotch> Quick question: by default, does Ubuntu Server start MySQL with the --log-bin option on?
[06:22] <Nafallo> I can't tell for sure, but I think it's off.
[06:22] <Nafallo> can't remember :-P
[06:23] <firecrotch> Would the logs be in /var/log/mysql?
[06:24] <Nafallo> check the conf
[06:27] <firecrotch> Nafallo:  Thanks
[06:28] <Nafallo> oh btw. it has to be compiled with it.
[06:28] <Nafallo> cause you can enable it in the conf.
[06:28] <Nafallo> just not on by default.
[06:29]  * Nafallo is a bit tired after partying all night :-)
[06:29] <firecrotch> Yeah. I saw that
[06:29] <Nafallo> just got home :-)
[06:34] <AtomicSpark> is anyone here from the actual server team?
[06:34] <Nafallo> it's kind of an open team, so sure. not Canonical employee though.
[06:35] <Nafallo> those lurk as well though.
[06:35] <Nafallo> did you have a question?
[06:35] <AtomicSpark> ah. had a suggestion for the install. :P
[06:35] <lamont> ScottK: I thought we decided not to bother with backporting 2.5
[06:35] <AtomicSpark> I just installed 6.06 and if there was an option during setup to use dhcp or static, that would of saved an hour or two lol.
[06:36] <lamont> I can certainly do the uploads if that is what we want to do
[06:36] <AtomicSpark> oh well. i learned things. :)
[06:36] <Nafallo> AtomicSpark: ehrm. I've certainly get to choose in the server install.
[06:38] <AtomicSpark> Nafallo: you did? using 6.06 cd? It never asked me :-\. Oh well. I learned how to write a interface file.
[06:38] <Nafallo> maybe you actually had a dhcpd enabled on your network then :-P
[06:39] <Nafallo> in that case you need to press cancel when it tries to reach the one.
[06:39] <AtomicSpark> Yeah still had the router pushing out ips.
[06:39] <Nafallo> that's why then :-)
[06:40] <AtomicSpark> Won't happen next time since the server is doing it now. :)
[06:40] <Nafallo> ehrm
[06:40] <Nafallo> that means it will, don't it?
[06:40] <AtomicSpark> no, not if i'm re-installing it. ha.
[06:41] <Nafallo> ah
[06:41] <AtomicSpark> i'm not a man who fancies upgrades. i always do fresh installs.
[06:41] <Nafallo> I feel sorry for you then.
[06:41]  * Nafallo has a server that started as 4.10
[06:42] <AtomicSpark> how's that running?
[06:42] <Nafallo> very very very well.
[06:42] <Nafallo> I'm ircing from it :-P
[06:42] <AtomicSpark> Wonderful. Not wonderful. Using servers as clients. Tisk tisk.
[06:42] <Nafallo> changed hardware about 6-7 times as well :-)
[06:42] <Nafallo> ehrm
[06:43] <Nafallo> screen + irssi should be one a datacenter server to be honest.
[06:43] <Nafallo> s/one/on/
[06:43] <AtomicSpark> Well ubuntu doesn't un-activate if you change the hardware too much. ;)
[06:44] <Nafallo> I know.
[06:44] <Nafallo> and Windows didn't either last time I used it.
[06:44] <Nafallo> which was around 2001 I think.
[06:45] <AtomicSpark> Things change.
[06:45] <Nafallo> yes.
[06:45] <Nafallo> that does not mean I have to care about changes in operating systems I prefer not to use.
[06:46] <AtomicSpark> Are you an Apple fan? Linux people tend to like Apple.
[06:48] <Nafallo> no
[06:50] <AtomicSpark> hmm.
[06:50] <AtomicSpark> so anyways, i just set up my server tonight. all went well. haven't installed much, just LAMP and dhcp.
[06:50] <Nafallo> k
[06:51] <AtomicSpark> next comes openldap and dns. probably will break something there.
[06:51] <AtomicSpark> do i need dns server to get clients to authenticate to the openldap server or is that just a windows thing?
[06:59] <Nafallo> gnight
[06:59] <Lartza_>  how could i run webhosting in ubuntu? people get ftp acc and limited quota and mysql and something like cpanel
[07:00] <Lartza_> is webmin same thatn ispconfig?
[07:03] <AtomicSpark> webmin is for web baised server config. not a good way to run virtual hosting. thats more a cpanel plesk thing.
[07:04] <Lartza_> well what program do i need and it would be free?
[07:04] <Lartza_> i think cpanel isnt
[07:04] <AtomicSpark> cpanel and others are defiantly not free.
[07:04] <AtomicSpark> webmin is the only free one i can think of off the top of my head but it also isn't the best for virtual hosting which is what you want to do.
[07:04] <Lartza_> ispconfig?
[07:04] <AtomicSpark> never head of that one.
[07:05] <Lartza_> ispconfig.org
[07:05] <Lartza_> features seem ok
[07:05] <Lartza_> for my needs
[07:06] <Lartza_> what is proftpd conf file?
[07:06] <Lartza_> /etc/proftpd.conf is empty
[07:07] <AtomicSpark> you're using ubuntu server?
[07:08] <Lartza_> im now on ubuntu computer yes
[07:08] <Lartza_> and server is ubuntu
[07:08] <Lartza_> /etc/proftpd.conf doesn't exist
[07:08] <AtomicSpark> hmm. i don't have a proftpd.conf. must of been added by something you installed. ftp server maybe?
[07:08] <Lartza_> i dont have it
[07:08] <AtomicSpark> is a guide telling you you need it?
[07:08] <Lartza_> but i need it :)
[07:09] <Lartza_> for proftpd configuration
[07:09] <AtomicSpark> did you install proftpd?
[07:09] <Lartza_> yes
[07:09] <AtomicSpark> hmm.
[07:09] <Lartza_> webmin can see it
[07:09] <AtomicSpark> the conf file?
[07:09] <Lartza_> yes
[07:10] <AtomicSpark> hmm. maybe stored somewhere else.
[07:10] <Lartza_> i think i can change the setting from webmin
[07:10] <AtomicSpark> so do you want to sell virtual hosting spots or what are you trying to do?
[07:11] <Lartza_> now im changing some settings and figuring in my head, yes, how to do what you expalined, maybe not sell and only for friensds and family
[07:12] <Lartza_> is DefaultRoot config in proftpd same than Limit users to directories in webmin
[07:13] <AtomicSpark> oh well webmin should be fine for that. :)
[07:13] <Lartza_> now to the virtualhost problem
[07:14] <Lartza_> i'm not brave enough to try ispconfig
[07:14] <Lartza_> i think its same than webmin
[07:14] <Lartza_> and someone messed his comp with it
[07:15] <AtomicSpark> it happens. you have to be careful when installing apps on linux.
[07:16] <Lartza_> well when he asked help on ubuntu channel somebody ssaid he shuold use webmin
[07:16] <Lartza_> well does webmin work if i install usermin?
[07:17] <Lartza_> i found!
[07:17] <Lartza_> VHCS - Virtual Hosting Control System
[07:18] <Lartza_> previously some free host where i got webspace used it
[07:19] <Lartza_> hmph... only debian and suse packages?!
[07:19] <Lartza_> and it said open source...
[07:19] <AtomicSpark> debian packages or .deb is what ubuntu uses.
[07:20] <Lartza_> but they are not 100% working
[07:20] <Lartza_> Platform Support
[07:20] <Lartza_> 	SuSE Linux 	7.x 8.x and 9.0 	
[07:20] <Lartza_> 	RedHat Linux 	7.x and 9.0 	
[07:20] <Lartza_> 	Debian Linux 	sid, woody and sarge 	
[07:20] <Lartza_>   	Fedora 	Core1, Core2
[07:21] <Lartza_> ???
[07:21] <Lartza_> im not sure if my host used this
[07:21] <AtomicSpark> yeah. most support is like that. linux is so vast that you wont find much support for it.
[07:21] <AtomicSpark> most places just have redhat, centos, and ugh...
[07:21] <AtomicSpark> damn. what's it called. the one apple is baised off of.
[07:22] <AtomicSpark> oh bsd.
[07:22] <Lartza_> they dont even have tar or windows and they said open source
[07:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> !enter | Lartza_
[07:22] <ubotu> Lartza_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:22] <AtomicSpark> for the most part you should install software with apt-get and not by downloading it.
[07:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> looking at those platforms, i'd say that software shouldnt be installed from packages
[07:24] <AtomicSpark> but if you're just looking at support, not which file to download, there are really only 3 main distros, suse, debian, and redhat. everything else is based off of that.
[07:25] <AtomicSpark> redhat = fedora, centos, redhat; debian = ubuntu, debian; suse = sles, opensuse; etc.
[07:25] <AtomicSpark> most places wont list everything.
[07:25] <Lartza_> i know
[07:25]  * AtomicSpark hates fedora for some reason
[07:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> mixing and matching packages is not recomended, anyware
[07:25] <AtomicSpark> yes. like i said. best download it through apt-get or aptitude (using repos).
[07:26] <Lartza_> ill try find tar for VHCS
[07:26] <AtomicSpark> although 3rd party repos are required in other distros (if you know what you're doing), i would not recommend it for ubuntu.
[07:27] <Lartza_> found source, i think ill use that
[07:27] <Lartza_> there are not much options if you want free :)
[07:28] <Lartza_> can i really send email from my comp if i have mailserver?
[07:28] <Lartza_> and no domain, just ip
[07:29] <AtomicSpark> i've only messed with exchange. should be the same way with the open source version. you should beable to send email.
[07:29] <AtomicSpark> receiving email is a whole nother story. :P
[07:29] <Lartza_> aww
[07:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> Lartza_, yes you can, but you may get bounced by some servers
[07:30]  * Kamping_Kaiser is starting to wonder what we're talking abouts
[07:30] <Lartza_> would the sender be user@myip???
[07:30] <AtomicSpark> yes.
[07:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, unless you enabled rewrite, so it looks like its coming from somewhere else
[07:31] <AtomicSpark> Kamping_Kaiser: oh it keeps going from one subject to the next. he's trying to set up shared hosting for his friends and family.
[07:31] <Lartza_> well could i use some free domain like no-ip for my mailserver?
[07:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, ah right.
[07:31] <Lartza_> maybe for freinds and family
[07:31] <Lartza_> maybe others
[07:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> i would have thought friends and family you'd go the simple option
[07:31] <Lartza_> maybe noone :)
[07:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> Lartza_, you could, but same as what i said applies - if your IP changes, you'll likely start getting blacklisted
[07:32] <AtomicSpark> i didn't install openssh-client on my server... do i need it?
[07:32] <Lartza_> if i use domain?
[07:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, only if you want to ssh out of the server
[07:33] <Lartza_> i get blaclisted... ;(
[07:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> Lartza_, if you dont use a *valid* domain. eg, a domain with MX with static IP
[07:33] <Lartza_> i would use dynamic dns
[07:33] <Lartza_> ive found tut to automatically update my ip to the dynamic dns provider
[07:34]  * AtomicSpark is documenting what he did today
[07:34] <AtomicSpark> Lartza_: even if you used dynamic dns, unless you let your email server know of the dns, it will say your ip address.
[07:35] <Lartza_> i wuold try somehow to get it send from my free domain
[07:35] <Lartza_> i wont give up >:(
[07:35] <AtomicSpark> i gave up on email awhile ago. use google aps for our business. :P
[07:35] <Lartza_> got so far
[07:35]  * Kamping_Kaiser uses his ISP as a rewritere
[07:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> s/e$/$
[07:36] <Lartza_> ???
[07:36]  * AtomicSpark sees random characters from Kamping_Kaiser
[07:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> then again, i'm using exim, so i dont know how easy it would be with postfix
[07:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, which ones?
[07:37] <AtomicSpark> (01:35:58 AM) Kamping_Kaiser: s/e$/$
[07:37] <Lartza_> is it illegal to keep server on some isp's?
[07:37] <Lartza_> :O
[07:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, i'm just correcting myself - it (says roughly ) take the e from the end of the line and remove it
[07:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> Lartza_, 'illegal' i dont know about, but some ISPs its against your contract to do so
[07:38] <AtomicSpark> haha. jeez.
[07:38] <Lartza_> nooen hasnt complained
[07:38] <AtomicSpark> Lartza_: most isps state they don't allow servers in their contracts. most people don't listen.
[07:39] <AtomicSpark> most isps are shitty and block ports though.
[07:39] <Lartza_> can they stop it? weel shut down the connection, but any other way?
[07:39] <Lartza_> ok
[07:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> port blocking
[07:39]  * AtomicSpark is glad he doesnt have comcast
[07:40] <AtomicSpark> have any one of you set up NTP for your server/s?
[07:40] <Lartza_> i have runned web and game and mail and ssh and ftp servers and nobody hasnt said anythind O:-)
[07:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, yep.
[07:40] <Lartza_> im sic of this for now
[07:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> i run it almost everyware
[07:40] <Lartza_> ill go play
[07:40] <Lartza_> cya
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[07:41] <AtomicSpark> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[07:41] <AtomicSpark> from this guide, should i use ntpdate with cron.daily or using ntpd?
[07:41] <AtomicSpark> *use
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> let me check the guide
[07:42] <AtomicSpark> he seems to recommend ntpd.
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, you run one or the other
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> if its an *always on* machine, ntpd
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> that said, i use ntpd on everything
[07:44] <AtomicSpark> if you had more then one server, you would install ntp-server and i guess all the other servers could point to a master?
[07:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you have more then one, you set it up on all of them
[07:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> then you set them all to 'peer'
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> *peer with each other, and optionally look to the internet
[07:47] <AtomicSpark> hmm.
[07:47] <AtomicSpark> don't have /etc/ntp.conf. oh well.
[07:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, apt-get install ntp
[07:48] <AtomicSpark> yeah i did that.
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> um.
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> did you do that without the trailing .?
[07:50] <AtomicSpark> yup. the installer didn't create a conf file. just tried removing and reinstalling.
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, what system is this on?
[07:51] <AtomicSpark> ubuntu server 6.06
[07:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, then its in ntp-server
[07:52] <AtomicSpark> ah. guide is wrong. scary.
[07:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> let them know :)
[07:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> or are you refering to the guide you linked above?
[07:53] <AtomicSpark> yes that one.
[07:54] <AtomicSpark> should be all about servers. :P
[07:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[07:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> let #ubuntu-doc know, and r check for bug reports about it
[07:55] <AtomicSpark> ntp-server seems to be better. i am sure you remember since you use it ;)
[07:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> kgoetz@gatekeeper:~$ dpkg -S /etc/ntp.conf
[07:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ntp-server: /etc/ntp.conf
[07:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[07:55] <AtomicSpark> yup i have a conf file now.
[07:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool
[07:57]  * AtomicSpark is scared of trusting the openldap guide now
[07:58] <AtomicSpark> basically what i am doing is replacing a windows smallbusiness server.
[07:58] <AtomicSpark> didn't need all that fancy stuff. silly exchange using up all my resources.
[07:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> openldap is complex, if the guide is perfect, your very lucky
[08:00] <AtomicSpark> so i noticed.
[08:01] <AtomicSpark> all i need is one domain, a few users and security groups. just to simplify logins on our network. i need to beable to change passwords etc.
[08:01]  * AtomicSpark sighs
[08:01] <AtomicSpark> maybe needs better employees
[08:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> *grin*
[08:02] <AtomicSpark> do you know the point of "option domain-name" for dns server?
[08:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> s/dns/dhcp?
[08:03] <AtomicSpark> you sir confuse me with your slashes
[08:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry: were you asking about dns or dhcp server?
[08:05] <AtomicSpark> XD
[08:05] <AtomicSpark> yeah i meant "option domain-name" for dhcp server. :P
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> its your dns domain name
[08:05] <AtomicSpark> good. god this file is complex.
[08:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> dhcpd.conf? it gets easier when you've configured it a few dozen times ;p
[08:06] <AtomicSpark> if i only have one dhcp server, should i enable the authoritative option? don't see why it would matter.
[08:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes you should
[08:08] <AtomicSpark> yes i should... good point. incase another dhcp server poped up.
[08:12] <AtomicSpark> well i obviously failed.
[08:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> *grin*
[08:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, whats up?
[08:16] <AtomicSpark> well i get this:
[08:16] <AtomicSpark> Wrote 1 leases to leases file.
[08:16] <AtomicSpark> No subnet declaration for start (0.0.0.0).
[08:16] <AtomicSpark> ** Ignoring requests on start.  If this is not what
[08:16] <AtomicSpark>    you want, please write a subnet declaration
[08:16] <AtomicSpark>    in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment
[08:16] <AtomicSpark>    to which interface start is attached. **
[08:16] <AtomicSpark> Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[08:16]  * AtomicSpark knows about pastebin
[08:17] <AtomicSpark> but yeah i get that whenever i try stop/start/restarting the dhcp server.
[08:17] <AtomicSpark> but i know it works, i got an address from it for my laptop.
[08:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, " please write a subnet declaration"
[08:18] <AtomicSpark> i have one. :-\
[08:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, :o
[08:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, pastebin it
[08:18] <AtomicSpark> subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.149; option routers 192.168.0.1; }
[08:21] <AtomicSpark> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58075/
[08:21] <AtomicSpark> that's my current config. i just uncommitted a few things and changed it to match my network.
[08:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[08:24] <AtomicSpark> looks good to me.
[08:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> me to.
[08:25] <AtomicSpark> anything else you normally enable/change?
[08:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> AtomicSpark, your not running ltsp or anything like that?
[08:26] <AtomicSpark> i don't think so.
[08:26]  * AtomicSpark googled
[08:27] <AtomicSpark> no i'm not running terminal servers :P
[08:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[08:29]  * Kamping_Kaiser shrug
[08:38] <AtomicSpark> when setting option domain-name-servers, is there a max of 2? or does it matter?
[08:38] <AtomicSpark> I know windows had a 2 limit or something.
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> windows had a 2 limit
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm not aware of another OS as deficent
[08:40] <AtomicSpark> heh.
[08:41] <AtomicSpark> oh does resolv.conf really get overwritten on server reboot? or is that only if your server gets ip from dhcp?
[08:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> only if its dhcp
[08:41] <AtomicSpark> good deal.
[08:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> course :)
[08:54] <AtomicSpark> !bug #197557
[08:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197557 in ubuntu-doc "Wrong Package for Server Guide: NTP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197557
[08:54] <AtomicSpark> :D
[08:54] <AtomicSpark> my first bug. how nice.
[08:56] <AtomicSpark> thanks for your help Kamping_Kaiser, i'm calling it quits for tonight.
[09:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. should have told him i was going afk
[11:13] <nijaba> hello
[12:27] <faulkes-> morning all
[12:42] <rjune> ugh
[12:52] <AlexC_> hey all,
[12:53] <AlexC_> I needs some help setting up Postfix and Bind9 records. Basically the setup I would like is that email is sent (over SMTP) and recieved (by POP3(s) or IMAP(s)) via 'mail.example.com' *only*. Ie, I don't want 'mail.hosted-domain.com'
[12:54] <AlexC_> I've not really got he best idea on how to set this up, and would really appreciate a little guidance
[12:54] <AlexC_> Dovecot is also used if that is of any relevance to the configuration
[13:00] <faulkes-> start with the official server guide https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/ - see the postfix section, in regards to bind9, you want an MX record for domain.com to point to mail.domain.com
[13:00] <faulkes-> domain.com IN MX 10 mail.domain.com (as an example)
[13:01] <AlexC_> ok, thank you faulkes- I will read up on that. Do you also know of a good place I can read up on the dns records? As I really have no idea what that line does (part by part)
[13:02] <faulkes-> I believe there is a DNS section in the server guide as well
[13:02] <faulkes-> if not, there should be one at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers
[13:02] <AlexC_> great, thanks very much
[13:02] <faulkes-> np
[13:03] <faulkes-> once you have read through and set things up, if you are encountering problems, don't hesitate to ask here or on the official server platform forum at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7
[13:07] <faulkes-> hello Bidou
[13:08] <Bidou> hi
[13:35] <AlexC_> ok, now I'm having issues with Postfix :P http://paste2.org/p/14848 - this is when doing 'telnet localhost 25'. Also I have no idea why it is picking up 'draco' from. The old hostname of this server used to be 'draco.tangohost.co.uk' however I have changed it all now so it's 'apoc.openzula.org' ... why is it still picking up Draco and how can I fix the issue?
[13:35] <AlexC_> the pastebin is the logs from /var/log/mail.log ... when I do 'telnet localhost 25' it connects, but then get  Connection closed by foreign host.
[13:41] <AlexC_> maybe this is a better paste: http://paste2.org/p/14850
[13:50] <faulkes-> well, first it would seem you don't have dns setup for your domain
[13:50] <faulkes-> however
[13:51] <faulkes-> when you changed the hostname, how did you do that?
[13:53] <AlexC_> faulkes-, it's a VPS, and with it I have HyperVM - there is an option within that to change hostname
[13:53] <AlexC_> Bind9 is working fine for my domain, as well
[13:54] <AlexC_> faulkes-, googling seems to show it's an issue with Dovecot
[13:54] <faulkes-> there are a few issues happening
[13:56] <faulkes-> your mail.domain.com doesn't exist
[13:59] <faulkes-> can you pastebin your postfix configuration
[13:59] <AlexC_> faulkes-, could you help me out on setting the MX record? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto does not explain it well
[13:59] <AlexC_> faulkes-, sure,
[14:00] <faulkes-> I'm not sure what the VPS you are using is doing with or how it is managing bind, so that could be difficult
[14:00] <AlexC_> faulkes-, http://paste2.org/p/14851
[14:00] <AlexC_> faulkes-, well it seems like it's completely up to me with the DNS - ie, they don't manage it at all
[14:00] <faulkes-> however the first step would be to actually create a record for mail.domain.com that has the same ip address as domain.com
[14:02] <AlexC_> I think I just found out how to do that =3
[14:02] <faulkes-> what does /etc/mailname and /etc/hosts look like (pastebin)
[14:04] <faulkes-> normally I manage bind by directly dealing with the zone files, so if the VPS has any sort of mgmt console (Plesk, cPanel, Ensim) I wouldn't be much help
[14:04] <AlexC_> faulkes-, http://paste2.org/p/14852
[14:05] <AlexC_> faulkes-, yes, it has nothing like that for managing them - so I am also directly dealing the zone files. The only thing you can really do with HyperVM regarding the config is the hostname change
[14:05] <faulkes-> what does /etc/hostname look like (it's a single line file
[14:06] <faulkes-> pastebin your zonefile then
[14:07] <AlexC_> faulkes-, /etc/hostname is apoc.openzula.org
[14:07] <AlexC_> faulkes-, alrite
[14:07] <AlexC_> http://paste2.org/p/14853
[14:10] <AlexC_> hum, in /var/log/syslog I get "dns_rdata_fromtext: pri.openzula.org:11: near 'mail.openzula.org.': not a valid number" ... seems I didn't do the MX record correctly
[14:10] <AlexC_> err I missed the 10 out
[14:14] <AlexC_> that's odd, in HyperVM it has my old hostname there O_o
[14:15] <ScottK> lamont: That's what we talked about, but apparently people are doing it on their own, so we may as well give them a proper package.
[14:15] <ScottK> lamont: I've done the uploads (I'm core now too ;-))
[14:15] <faulkes-> http://paste2.org/p/14855
[14:16] <AlexC_> faulkes-, how come you removed the MX part?
[14:16] <AlexC_> oh I see it
[14:16]  * faulkes- nods
[14:17] <AlexC_> ok, that's all good I can ping that now
[14:18] <faulkes-> ScottK: can you look at http://paste2.org/p/14851 (postfix config), in the mydestination= section, iirc he should be adding his root domain correct (to the list)
[14:19] <faulkes-> ok, your MX record now shows properly
[14:19] <ScottK> faulkes-: If mail to that domain should be delivered by Postfix, then that is absolutely correct.
[14:20] <faulkes-> AlexC: per ScottK's confirmation, add your root domain.com to the mydestination= section of your postfix configuration
[14:20] <AlexC_> ok
[14:20] <faulkes-> once you've done that, restart postfix and we'll see what we get
[14:21] <AlexC_> faulkes-, http://paste2.org/p/14856
[14:23] <AlexC_> woops, ignore 'warning: No server certs available. TLS won't be enabled' ... I accidently commented something out in the main.cf file
[14:24] <faulkes-> well, it appers to be complaining about sasl
[14:24] <AlexC_> indeed, when doing a bit of Googling it seems to be Dovecot is the issue
[14:26] <AlexC_> faulkes-, shall I just purge Dovecot and Postfix and follow this guide from the start?
[14:28] <faulkes-> that may be an easier route, given you remember what we've done above
[14:29] <AlexC_> indeed, I shall try it now. Thank you for all the help so far =)
[14:35] <AlexC_> awesome, working faulkes- =) Thank you very much!
[14:36] <AlexC_> food o'clock =)
[14:54] <faulkes-> nijaba: another survey push this morning, committed fix, no rush
[14:57] <faulkes-> and damn you ScottK, I've avoided learning postfix since it's release, now I'm starting to hate sendmail
[14:57] <faulkes-> DAMNNN YOUUUU!
[14:57]  * faulkes- whistles innocently
[15:54] <stephan> i'm using a glassfish application server, at one point the servers stops acception connection with message connection refused, in #glassfish i was told that it is a "new connection / second" problem of the os.
[16:05] <faulkes-> ummmm, ok
[16:05] <faulkes-> I'm not aware of any rate limitinig / connection limiting we are doing by default
[16:06] <faulkes-> I'm not familiar with glassfish so, however, do you have any idea how many nc's / second are actually happening?
[16:09] <faulkes-> and is there anything in the logs which it creates (if it creates logs) when this situation arises?
[16:27] <keescook> jdstrand: ah, we'll need to disable the new enforced profiles on the liveCD (bug 131976)
[16:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131976 in casper "fails to start: cannot apply additional memory protection after relocation - apparmor doesn't work on stacked file system (livecd)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131976
[16:53]  * faulkes- <mr burns finger churches>
[16:53] <faulkes-> excellent
[16:54] <Exfiltrate> I need some Help with Asterisk. Im unsure of what i want to accomplish. what i want to do to begin with is Setup a VoIP service and connect Through it With Asterisk. what service that is free is best compatible with asterisk and simple to setup
[16:54] <faulkes-> another day or two of dev work and I should be able to put my code up on LP
[16:54] <Exfiltrate> im attempting to use FWD right now but cant seem to get it to work
[16:55] <faulkes-> we don't really get into who provides "free" services for voip here
[16:55] <faulkes-> if you have a specific problem, we can probably offer help
[16:56] <faulkes-> and afaik, any service which allows you to connect via sip or mgcp is compatible with asterisk
[17:01] <lamont> ScottK: yeah - saw that
[17:02] <lamont> faulkes-: I knew we'd convert you eventually... :-)
[17:02] <lamont> faulkes-: if it helps any, Wietse got a Sendmail Developer's Award a year or two ago, for the postfix milter stuff
[17:08] <Exfiltrate> faulkes-: its not a matter of free service, i just want to be able to make sure i can get it configured correctly before i commit to any service
[17:08] <Exfiltrate> faulkies- : the bigger issure is that i cant seem to figure out why the trunk wont work
[17:30] <faulkes-> Exfiltrate: iirc voip-jet offers free test services to help setup asterisk
[17:39] <Exfiltrate> nice
[17:39] <Exfiltrate> thanks
[17:49] <AtomicSpark> hi
[17:59] <AtomicSpark> has anyone attempted to configure smb to work with slapd to let windows clients authenticate?
[18:06] <Nafallo> !weekend
[18:06] <ubotu> It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.
[19:34] <MatBoy> hi all
[19:35] <MatBoy> what version of asterisk is there in ubuntu-server at the moment ? I'm not able to see it using apt-cache
[19:40] <AtomicSpark> what version of server? 6.06 or 7.10?
[19:40] <MatBoy> 7.10
[19:40] <MatBoy> Debian seems to have a outdated version :S
[19:40] <MatBoy> (as usual)
[19:41] <AtomicSpark> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=asterisk&searchon=names&suite=gutsy&section=all
[19:41] <AtomicSpark> looks like 1:1.4.10~dfsg-1?
[19:41] <AtomicSpark> whatever all that is :)
[19:41] <MatBoy> ah that is nice !
[19:41] <MatBoy> thanks
[19:41] <MatBoy> .18 is the latest version
[19:41] <MatBoy> debian is on 1.2.3
[19:42] <AtomicSpark> well remember that using the latest version in linux isn't always the best idea. :P
[19:42] <AtomicSpark> unless it fixes something you need of course.
[19:44] <MatBoy> AtomicSpark, nah on Asterisk, it solved a lot :)
[19:44] <MatBoy> *solves
[19:44]  * AtomicSpark wonders if installing smb before sldap causes problems.
[19:45] <MatBoy> AtomicSpark, it shouldn't
[19:45] <AtomicSpark> yeah i read into slapd. way too complicated. skipping it for now.
[19:46] <AtomicSpark> just need like one or to shares for windows >:(
[19:49] <MatBoy> AtomicSpark, just samba with a share in it
[19:49] <MatBoy> use webmin if you are not able to config it
[19:58] <gopp> hi
[19:58] <gopp> I setup a ldap + samba domain controller
[19:58] <gopp> but
[19:58] <AtomicSpark> openldap?
[19:59] <gopp> last step " logging into the Windows XP workstation (after selecting the domain from the drop down box I get an error
[19:59] <gopp> yea
[19:59] <gopp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58154/
[19:59] <gopp> that the error
[19:59] <gopp> and bind9
[20:00] <AtomicSpark> well i am afraid that those who know more advanced stuff like ldap server are away for the weekend :P been trying to get some help myself.
[20:00] <gopp> and I did smbldap-useradd -w client-winxp
[20:01] <gopp> that smbldap-useradd gopmix
[20:01] <gopp> with -w
[20:02] <gopp> damn
[20:04] <gopp> do you know what I did wrong AtomicSpark
[20:04] <AtomicSpark> gopp: no idea. which guide did you follow to install openldap + samba?
[20:05] <gopp> this onehttp://www.howtoforge.com/openldap-samba-domain-controller-ubuntu7.10-p3
[20:06] <AtomicSpark> I've been following http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html for mine.
[20:07] <AtomicSpark> one of the ubuntu members told me last night i would be lucky if i found a guide that was 100% on openldap. tis' a complicated thing.
[20:07] <gopp> oh
[20:07] <gopp> oh hmm
[20:08] <AtomicSpark> yeah i'm skipping it for now. just using workgroup shares on smb. ill go back later after testing it out on a test server.
[20:08] <gopp> yea I want one
[20:08] <gopp> The following error occurred when DNS was queried for the service location (SRV) resource record used to locate a domain controller for domain gopunix.local:
[20:08] <AtomicSpark> i think that guide you read skips the installing of open-ldap
[20:09] <AtomicSpark> actully doesn't even mention it. :-\
[20:09] <AtomicSpark> wait...
[20:09]  * AtomicSpark sees other pages
[20:09] <gopp> that the third page
[20:12] <AtomicSpark> hmm. seems like a good guide. i think ill do that on my test machine.
[20:15]  * AtomicSpark sees that he didnt change the FQDN for his server.
[20:16]  * AtomicSpark realizes that he doesn't need that if his dns server is cache only.
[20:18] <gopp> yea
[20:18] <gopp> tell me if it works
[20:18] <AtomicSpark> i'm actually running on 6.06. hopefully this guide isn't too different.
[20:19] <AtomicSpark> maybe ill just use simple smb sharing for now then test out this guide on a 7.10 server somewhere. then when 8.06 comes out, i can upgrade the main server.
[20:19] <AtomicSpark> yes. good plan!
[20:33] <AtomicSpark> can webmin configure samba users/shares?
[20:36] <ScottK> AtomicSpark: You're unlikely to get webmin support here.
[20:36] <AtomicSpark> Don't likes the webmin?
[20:37] <ScottK> The way it manages configuration files is fundamentally incompatible with the way Debian/Ubuntu package management works.
[20:37] <ScottK> !webmin
[20:37] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[20:37] <AtomicSpark> well thanks for the warning. :)
[20:38] <gopp> did you get it
[20:38] <gopp> ScottK I agee
[20:38] <gopp> agree
[20:38] <gopp> how do I ScottK fix an error in srv record.
[20:38] <gopp> ?? thanks
[20:39] <Munksgaar3> !ebox
[20:39] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[20:39] <ScottK> gopp: Sorry, I'm only marginally paying attention to what's going on in the channel.
[20:39] <gopp> I am getting this whenI try to connect to my samba and open ldap
[20:39] <gopp> The query was for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.gopunix
[20:39] <gopp> Common causes of this error include the following:
[20:39] <gopp> - The DNS SRV record is not registered in DNS.
[20:41] <ScottK> I'd look and see if I can see the srv record using dig.  If you can't you have a DNS problem.  If you can, you have an LDAP problem.
[20:42] <gopp> k
[20:42] <gopp> ;gopunix.local.                 IN      A
[20:42] <gopp> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
[20:58] <AtomicSpark> should i use the server guide for the version of the os i am on, or is using the latest one better?
[21:04] <gopp> hey
[21:04] <gopp> I am getting this
[21:04] <gopp> rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[21:04] <gopp>                                                                          [fail
[21:05] <keescook> soren: common ext3 /build speeds up builds by about the same amount as you were seeing with tar stuff
[21:08] <AtomicSpark> okay. i really don't understand the difference between ntp-server and ntp-simple both packages install eachother. can someone shed some light on this?
[21:18] <gopp> I am getting * Starting domain name service... bind                                  [fail]
[21:20] <AtomicSpark> gopp: do you have any other dns server running? my dhcp service failed on ubuntu when i forgot to shut off the router's. :P
[21:21] <gopp> oh
[21:21] <gopp> nothing else
[21:21] <gopp> how do I compeltely remove bind and start over
[21:24] <AtomicSpark> sudo apt-get remove bind9
[21:25] <AtomicSpark> then remove /etc/bind9 folder by cd /etc then sudo -rm -rf bind9
[21:25] <AtomicSpark> careful with that rm -rf!
[21:25] <AtomicSpark> no - before rm
[21:26] <gopp> oh
[21:28] <AtomicSpark> i wonder why they didn't release pdf versions of the guides for 7.10. that's kindof lame.
[21:29] <gopp> yea
[21:29] <AtomicSpark> hopefully for 8.04 since it's LTS.
[21:30] <gopp> then apt-get install bind
[21:30] <gopp> then apt-get install bind9
[21:30] <AtomicSpark> yes
[21:30] <AtomicSpark> *sudo
[21:30] <AtomicSpark> hmm they didnt' have it for 7.04 either.
[21:31] <gopp> still get it
[21:31] <gopp> rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[21:34] <AtomicSpark> did you configure bind at all?
[21:34] <gopp> yea
[21:34] <gopp> like it said in that
[21:34] <gopp> let me reboot ubuntu
[21:38] <gopp> nothing
[21:41] <nijaba> gopp: better method to completely remove a package apt-get
[21:41] <gopp> nijaba how
[21:41] <nijaba> apt-get purge package
[21:41] <gopp> I tryed how atomic said
[21:42] <gopp> dpkg - warning: while removing bind9, directory `/etc/bind' not empty so not removed.
[21:42] <gopp> that makes sense
[21:43] <nijaba> what is left are files that were not installed by the package
[21:44] <gopp> then I reinstall
[21:44] <gopp> sudo apt-get instal bind9
[21:47] <gopp> worked
[21:49] <gopp> let see if I can then   login
[21:50] <gopp> AtomicSpark did you get it to work
[21:50] <AtomicSpark> so i want to create a user but not let them log in. basically it's just a shared unix user for samba. what option would i use for that?
[21:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> beh. i cant be bothered reading up this morning, sorry blokes ;)
[21:52] <AtomicSpark> well hi mr.
[21:53] <gopp> all I got know is
[21:53] <gopp> The error was: "DNS name does not exist."
[21:53] <gopp> (error code 0x0000232B RCODE_NAME_ERROR)
[21:53] <gopp> The query was for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.gopunix.local
[21:53] <AtomicSpark> nvm. since i don't have that crappy selinux on ubuntu, ill just use the users home folder. :)
[21:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> selinux is ok (even if i dont use it myself)
[21:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> gopp, does gopunix.local exist?
[21:56] <AtomicSpark> selinux kept yelling at me. :(
[21:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> :\
[21:58] <gopp> yea I createdit
[21:58] <gopp> as master
[21:59] <gopp> gopunix.local.                 IN      A
[21:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> and `host gopunix.local` returns the result you want?
[22:01] <gopp> yea
[22:01] <gopp> in linux
[22:01] <gopp> but not in windows
[22:01] <gopp> I did nslookup  Can't find server name for address 192.168.1.5: Non-existent domain
[22:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> you might nto have reverse dns
[22:03] <gopp> oh
[22:04] <gopp> rev.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa
[22:04] <gopp> is that right
[22:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> could be, depends how you set it up ;)
[22:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm going to work. back in ~1.5 hours
[22:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> as kgoetz
[22:06] <AtomicSpark> ha. i can connect to the samba share via windows but not ubuntu > connect to server > windows share
[22:06] <gopp> what is the proper way
[22:06] <AtomicSpark> it keeps showing mshome not the proper workgroup
[22:06] <AtomicSpark> :P
[22:06] <gopp> Kamping_Kaiser
[22:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> gopp, proper way?
[22:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> gopp, reverse dns can have one entry covering multiple IPs, unlike forward dns
[22:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> gopp, so rev.1.etc covering the whole /24 would be fine
[22:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> however, afk 1.5 like i said. GTG
[22:10] <AtomicSpark> it works if you specify the domain (workgroup) while adding the share. oh well.
[22:18] <gopp> hmm
[22:18] <gopp> AtomicSpark do you know my error
[22:19] <AtomicSpark> gopp: no sorry. haven't tried it yet.