troy_s | kwwii: I was looking at the supported Nikons on the dcraw site. It supports every DSLR up to the D3. It makes me wonder why your weren't able to decode the NEFs. | 04:45 |
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troy_s | kwwii: The ONLY camera I can see on there that isn't yet supported (but probably is as the NEF won't change) is the D60. | 04:45 |
troy_s | kwwii: Anyways, if you can't get it sorted let me know. | 04:46 |
kwwii | good morning all | 08:58 |
kwwii | troy_s: yeah, I have/had a fuji (almost sold now) | 08:59 |
kwwii | troy_s: and yes, I need to tweak the wallpaper and work on gdm ;-) | 08:59 |
* kwwii answers emails, etc | 08:59 | |
kwwii | hehe, checking the site, even the s5 is supported now | 09:04 |
xhaker | kwwii: good morning | 10:03 |
kwwii | moin xhaker | 10:03 |
xhaker | kwwii: can you give me a link to the current plans for hardy theme? | 10:03 |
xhaker | i've talked with seb128 about a bug in the theme, and managed to hunt it down and patch ubuntulooks | 10:04 |
xhaker | the previous theme nowI presume | 10:04 |
xhaker | it has to do with inconsistent radio buttons. at first i thought that it was a bug somewhere else, but it proved to be the theme | 10:06 |
kwwii | xhaker: for now we are planning on using murrine or clear looks as default but I think that we will still ship an ubuntulooks theme | 10:06 |
xhaker | kwwii: well, i wonder what would ubuntulooks be if i merged it with current clearlooks | 10:07 |
xhaker | kwwii: http://leetcorp.net/theme-radio-easy-fix.png | 10:07 |
kwwii | xhaker: I think that the code is really different in the meantime | 10:07 |
kwwii | xhaker: one thing we are interested in looking into is keeping the look of the ubuntulooks scrollbars | 10:08 |
kwwii | but I am not sure how close the code is...if one could just cut that out of ubuntulooks and paste it into clearlooks | 10:08 |
xhaker | kwwii: it would be cool to know when did clearlooks get forked for ubuntulooks | 10:09 |
xhaker | that'd help | 10:09 |
kwwii | xhaker: I am writing an email as we speak on the notes I took from a meeting last week on this stuff | 10:09 |
xhaker | for now I fixed the radio buttons, inconsistent = glow, no bullet | 10:09 |
xhaker | thanks, i'll let you type | 10:10 |
kwwii | not sure what you mean | 10:14 |
xhaker | kwwii: about the radio buttons? | 10:33 |
kwwii | xhaker: yes, do you have a screenshot to explain? | 10:34 |
xhaker | I've pasted the url before | 10:34 |
xhaker | http://release.debian.org/ | 10:34 |
xhaker | ups | 10:34 |
kwwii | lol | 10:34 |
xhaker | http://leetcorp.net/theme-radio-easy-fix.png | 10:34 |
xhaker | see how all the radio buttons are glowing but have no bullet indicating which is selected | 10:35 |
xhaker | they're in a state called inconsistent | 10:35 |
xhaker | none is selected | 10:35 |
xhaker | that is with my patched ubuntulooks | 10:35 |
kwwii | so this makes them orange filled, if I see it correctly | 10:35 |
xhaker | the one in the repositories makes them all *appear* selected | 10:36 |
xhaker | kwwii: in the code the orange fill is called glow | 10:36 |
kwwii | gotcha | 10:36 |
kwwii | I guess a change like this needs to be discussed...I'll ask a couple of people and get back to you, ok? | 10:37 |
xhaker | kwwii: i've talked with seb128, it is a known bug | 10:37 |
kwwii | email address? | 10:37 |
xhaker | he just told me he'd prefer the clearlooks style for inconsistent radio | 10:38 |
kwwii | or send me one at kwwii at ubuntu dot com | 10:38 |
xhaker | xhaker at gmail.com | 10:38 |
xhaker | that's why i will probably try to merge clearlooks back to ubuntulooks | 10:39 |
kwwii | that would be pretty cool if you can make it work well | 10:40 |
kwwii | there are quite a few things from ubuntulooks that we would like to keep | 10:41 |
xhaker | kwwii: are they enumerated in the email? | 10:44 |
kwwii | yes..it'll probably need more explanation, but it is a a start | 10:46 |
xhaker | and now i would love to know the fork version | 10:47 |
xhaker | have to try to find it. doesn't seem to exist a correlation with the ubuntulooks version number | 10:48 |
kwwii | hrm? | 10:48 |
xhaker | my question: ubuntulooks is based on which version of clearlooks? | 10:50 |
kwwii | I've no idea :-) | 10:50 |
kwwii | it was from shortly before dapper | 10:50 |
xhaker | right. i was saying the ubuntulooks version is 0.9, and clearlooks didn't have that version number ever | 10:51 |
xhaker | :d | 10:51 |
kwwii | ;-) | 10:51 |
xhaker | haha.. lookin into murrine | 10:52 |
xhaker | a comment inside radiobuttons draw routine ./* inconsistent state is missing? */ | 10:53 |
xhaker | i have a class now. will be back later | 10:54 |
kwwii | see you soon | 10:56 |
troy_s | _MMA_: New NIN album. CC licensed and FLAC. | 12:09 |
_MMA_ | troy_s: Holy shit really? | 12:09 |
_MMA_ | Link? | 12:09 |
troy_s | _MMA_: ghosts.nin.com | 12:10 |
troy_s | _MMA_: Still getting hammered. | 12:10 |
* _MMA_ goes now. | 12:10 | |
troy_s | _MMA_: Free download, 5 bucks gets you FLAC or AAC (shit) | 12:10 |
troy_s | _MMA_: 10 gets you the cds plus immediate download. Etc. | 12:10 |
_MMA_ | Awesome to see Trent (or someone near him) knows a little something. :) | 12:10 |
_MMA_ | I think Ill order the CD. | 12:11 |
troy_s | _MMA_: It's all Trent judging from the last two interviews I have read. | 12:12 |
_MMA_ | Nice. | 12:12 |
troy_s | _MMA_: He was choked at the quality of the Radiohead album. | 12:12 |
troy_s | _MMA_: So he wanted to offer a better version (360(?) on the MP3 and FLAC for paid.) | 12:13 |
_MMA_ | I might get the Deluxe Edition. Kinda a historic collectors thing IMO. | 12:13 |
troy_s | _MMA_: Yep. Toying with that too. | 12:13 |
troy_s | _MMA_: The 300 dollar one might be helluva historic. | 12:13 |
_MMA_ | $30? Thats really an awesome deal. | 12:13 |
troy_s | _MMA_: Not to mention that the bundle is pretty amazing. Hell... Vinyl! | 12:13 |
_MMA_ | yep | 12:13 |
troy_s | _MMA_: It goes back to my idea of making the bloody stuff worth buying again. Pump the money into art direction etc... Nice to see that he has done it this way. I suspect it will be a large smashing hit. | 12:14 |
troy_s | _MMA_: Site was _CLOBBERED_ last night. | 12:14 |
_MMA_ | hehe | 12:14 |
_MMA_ | Yeah. Im buying this now. Thanx for the heads up. | 12:15 |
troy_s | hrm... they moved the 'Free' over to the right side... | 12:15 |
troy_s | _MMA_: I tried to find you last night. Rather bombshell. | 12:15 |
troy_s | _MMA_: No pre-announcement or anything. Just poof -- instant site and huge news. | 12:15 |
troy_s | _MMA_: Oh and look -- LAME encoded. Rather interesting. | 12:16 |
troy_s | (if you bother with the mp3 rubbish.) | 12:17 |
_MMA_ | Must correct the s/$30/$300 for people watching. Damn I cant type. :P | 12:18 |
troy_s | lol | 12:19 |
_MMA_ | troy_s: Yeah. Looks like he knows what to use. What the preferred encoders are. | 12:20 |
troy_s | _MMA_: 300 gets you everything -- it is an incremental setup. | 12:20 |
troy_s | _MMA_: Site is still getting hammered. Good to see. | 12:20 |
_MMA_ | $1000 Gets you the Pro-Tools session. :P | 12:20 |
_MMA_ | (kidding) | 12:20 |
troy_s | _MMA_: Look at the 300 dollar version ;) | 12:21 |
troy_s | _MMA_: You get the source WAVs | 12:21 |
_MMA_ | hahahahhahaha | 12:21 |
troy_s | _MMA_: Trent is _on_. | 12:21 |
_MMA_ | Killer. Yeah. I gotta seriously consider this. Gotta convince the wife. :P | 12:22 |
troy_s | _MMA_: multi-track sessions in wav format. | 12:22 |
troy_s | LOL | 12:22 |
troy_s | _MMA_: If you had a paypal link on a blog... lol. | 12:22 |
andreasn | troy_s: did you manage to order? | 12:35 |
troy_s | andreasn: Nope... tried three times thus far. | 12:35 |
troy_s | andreasn: And that limited version I am wanting to buy is probably gone now. | 12:36 |
andreasn | :( | 12:36 |
andreasn | I just getting the regular 10 usd version, so I'll wait a day or two till the servers have settled down a bit | 12:36 |
troy_s | andreasn: Incremental. You get immediate FLAC download. | 12:37 |
* _MMA_ wants the Ultra but will have to settle for Deluxe. | 12:37 | |
troy_s | andreasn: _and_ the disks. | 12:37 |
troy_s | _MMA_: 300 for the three books, vinyl, disc, etc. is quite a steal really. | 12:37 |
_MMA_ | Totally. Just gotta convince the wife of that. :P | 12:38 |
troy_s | to be totally honest... this could easily sell enough albums to make Trent a distributor (not that he isn't close already) | 12:39 |
_MMA_ | :P | 12:40 |
Cimi | is this real? http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/03/02/two-new-themes-arrive-in-ubuntu-804/ | 13:56 |
Cimi | quite ugly, I have a lot of better colorschemes | 13:57 |
kwwii | Cimi: yes it is true | 13:57 |
kwwii | and the gtkrc included is very crude and in now way finished | 13:58 |
kwwii | Cimi: in any case, we need to stick with typical ubuntu colors as seen in the Ubuntulooks stuff | 13:58 |
Cimi | kwwii, but in that way people will think clearlooks and murrine are ugly too | 13:59 |
Cimi | kwwii, I have a lot of better *orange/brown* colorschemes | 14:02 |
kwwii | Cimi: yeah, I am not saying it has to be 100% the same but it should look visually equal | 14:03 |
andreasn | is it the same metacity theme as before? | 14:04 |
Cimi | kwwii, I see no reason to ship such ugly themes | 14:05 |
kwwii | Cimi: nobody is saying we will ship the themes as they are | 14:05 |
Cimi | at least ship two new themes when you'll have something good | 14:05 |
Cimi | ok | 14:05 |
kwwii | the idea is to have something to work on | 14:05 |
kwwii | so that we can move forward, if only slowly at first | 14:06 |
Cimi | bah, I can make a theme in 2 minutes... it's not the problem | 14:06 |
kwwii | the problem is making you do what I want :p | 14:12 |
kwwii | lol | 14:12 |
* kwwii has to run to the store, be back in a bit | 14:12 | |
Cimi | 1: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/901/schermataev0.png | 14:15 |
Cimi | 1: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5237/schermata1wo1.png | 14:15 |
Cimi | quick try | 14:16 |
Cimi | andreasn, impressions? | 14:16 |
andreasn | is that the active window? | 14:16 |
andreasn | I want the inactive window to look like that! | 14:17 |
Cimi | these are two themes I made when I said | 14:17 |
Cimi | <Cimi> bah, I can make a theme in 2 minutes... it's not the problem | 14:17 |
andreasn | :) | 14:18 |
andreasn | the flat-thingy you blogged about a couple of weeks ago was pretty nice | 14:18 |
andreasn | seems gilouche enabled that by default | 14:18 |
andreasn | I like the color of the metacity theme in the murrine screenshot, that looks pretty coo | 14:22 |
andreasn | l | 14:22 |
andreasn | anyway, I better get back to work | 14:22 |
Cimi | kwwii, ? | 15:33 |
vallhalla81 | hello all | 16:10 |
xhaker | Cimi: murrine lacks inconsistent radio buttons :) you have a comment near the drawing code about it. but you better do something about it.. or i'll do! | 18:27 |
xhaker | hehe | 18:27 |
xhaker | kwwii: where is that email? did you send it to a list or me directly? | 18:31 |
xhaker | ubuntu-art. ok. will check it soon | 18:32 |
Cimi | kwwii, updates? | 23:35 |
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