[04:45] kwwii: I was looking at the supported Nikons on the dcraw site. It supports every DSLR up to the D3. It makes me wonder why your weren't able to decode the NEFs. [04:45] kwwii: The ONLY camera I can see on there that isn't yet supported (but probably is as the NEF won't change) is the D60. [04:46] kwwii: Anyways, if you can't get it sorted let me know. [08:58] good morning all [08:59] troy_s: yeah, I have/had a fuji (almost sold now) [08:59] troy_s: and yes, I need to tweak the wallpaper and work on gdm ;-) [08:59] * kwwii answers emails, etc [09:04] hehe, checking the site, even the s5 is supported now [10:03] kwwii: good morning [10:03] moin xhaker [10:03] kwwii: can you give me a link to the current plans for hardy theme? [10:04] i've talked with seb128 about a bug in the theme, and managed to hunt it down and patch ubuntulooks [10:04] the previous theme nowI presume [10:06] it has to do with inconsistent radio buttons. at first i thought that it was a bug somewhere else, but it proved to be the theme [10:06] xhaker: for now we are planning on using murrine or clear looks as default but I think that we will still ship an ubuntulooks theme [10:07] kwwii: well, i wonder what would ubuntulooks be if i merged it with current clearlooks [10:07] kwwii: http://leetcorp.net/theme-radio-easy-fix.png [10:07] xhaker: I think that the code is really different in the meantime [10:08] xhaker: one thing we are interested in looking into is keeping the look of the ubuntulooks scrollbars [10:08] but I am not sure how close the code is...if one could just cut that out of ubuntulooks and paste it into clearlooks [10:09] kwwii: it would be cool to know when did clearlooks get forked for ubuntulooks [10:09] that'd help [10:09] xhaker: I am writing an email as we speak on the notes I took from a meeting last week on this stuff [10:09] for now I fixed the radio buttons, inconsistent = glow, no bullet [10:10] thanks, i'll let you type [10:14] not sure what you mean [10:33] kwwii: about the radio buttons? [10:34] xhaker: yes, do you have a screenshot to explain? [10:34] I've pasted the url before [10:34] http://release.debian.org/ [10:34] ups [10:34] lol [10:34] http://leetcorp.net/theme-radio-easy-fix.png [10:35] see how all the radio buttons are glowing but have no bullet indicating which is selected [10:35] they're in a state called inconsistent [10:35] none is selected [10:35] that is with my patched ubuntulooks [10:35] so this makes them orange filled, if I see it correctly [10:36] the one in the repositories makes them all *appear* selected [10:36] kwwii: in the code the orange fill is called glow [10:36] gotcha [10:37] I guess a change like this needs to be discussed...I'll ask a couple of people and get back to you, ok? [10:37] kwwii: i've talked with seb128, it is a known bug [10:37] email address? [10:38] he just told me he'd prefer the clearlooks style for inconsistent radio [10:38] or send me one at kwwii at ubuntu dot com [10:38] xhaker at gmail.com [10:39] that's why i will probably try to merge clearlooks back to ubuntulooks [10:40] that would be pretty cool if you can make it work well [10:41] there are quite a few things from ubuntulooks that we would like to keep [10:44] kwwii: are they enumerated in the email? [10:46] yes..it'll probably need more explanation, but it is a a start [10:47] and now i would love to know the fork version [10:48] have to try to find it. doesn't seem to exist a correlation with the ubuntulooks version number [10:48] hrm? [10:50] my question: ubuntulooks is based on which version of clearlooks? [10:50] I've no idea :-) [10:50] it was from shortly before dapper [10:51] right. i was saying the ubuntulooks version is 0.9, and clearlooks didn't have that version number ever [10:51] :d [10:51] ;-) [10:52] haha.. lookin into murrine [10:53] a comment inside radiobuttons draw routine ./* inconsistent state is missing? */ [10:54] i have a class now. will be back later [10:56] see you soon [12:09] _MMA_: New NIN album. CC licensed and FLAC. [12:09] <_MMA_> troy_s: Holy shit really? [12:09] <_MMA_> Link? [12:10] _MMA_: ghosts.nin.com [12:10] _MMA_: Still getting hammered. [12:10] * _MMA_ goes now. [12:10] _MMA_: Free download, 5 bucks gets you FLAC or AAC (shit) [12:10] _MMA_: 10 gets you the cds plus immediate download. Etc. [12:10] <_MMA_> Awesome to see Trent (or someone near him) knows a little something. :) [12:11] <_MMA_> I think Ill order the CD. [12:12] _MMA_: It's all Trent judging from the last two interviews I have read. [12:12] <_MMA_> Nice. [12:12] _MMA_: He was choked at the quality of the Radiohead album. [12:13] _MMA_: So he wanted to offer a better version (360(?) on the MP3 and FLAC for paid.) [12:13] <_MMA_> I might get the Deluxe Edition. Kinda a historic collectors thing IMO. [12:13] _MMA_: Yep. Toying with that too. [12:13] _MMA_: The 300 dollar one might be helluva historic. [12:13] <_MMA_> $30? Thats really an awesome deal. [12:13] _MMA_: Not to mention that the bundle is pretty amazing. Hell... Vinyl! [12:13] <_MMA_> yep [12:14] _MMA_: It goes back to my idea of making the bloody stuff worth buying again. Pump the money into art direction etc... Nice to see that he has done it this way. I suspect it will be a large smashing hit. [12:14] _MMA_: Site was _CLOBBERED_ last night. [12:14] <_MMA_> hehe [12:15] <_MMA_> Yeah. Im buying this now. Thanx for the heads up. [12:15] hrm... they moved the 'Free' over to the right side... [12:15] _MMA_: I tried to find you last night. Rather bombshell. [12:15] _MMA_: No pre-announcement or anything. Just poof -- instant site and huge news. [12:16] _MMA_: Oh and look -- LAME encoded. Rather interesting. [12:17] (if you bother with the mp3 rubbish.) [12:18] <_MMA_> Must correct the s/$30/$300 for people watching. Damn I cant type. :P [12:19] lol [12:20] <_MMA_> troy_s: Yeah. Looks like he knows what to use. What the preferred encoders are. [12:20] _MMA_: 300 gets you everything -- it is an incremental setup. [12:20] _MMA_: Site is still getting hammered. Good to see. [12:20] <_MMA_> $1000 Gets you the Pro-Tools session. :P [12:20] <_MMA_> (kidding) [12:21] _MMA_: Look at the 300 dollar version ;) [12:21] _MMA_: You get the source WAVs [12:21] <_MMA_> hahahahhahaha [12:21] _MMA_: Trent is _on_. [12:22] <_MMA_> Killer. Yeah. I gotta seriously consider this. Gotta convince the wife. :P [12:22] _MMA_: multi-track sessions in wav format. [12:22] LOL [12:22] _MMA_: If you had a paypal link on a blog... lol. [12:35] troy_s: did you manage to order? [12:35] andreasn: Nope... tried three times thus far. [12:36] andreasn: And that limited version I am wanting to buy is probably gone now. [12:36] :( [12:36] I just getting the regular 10 usd version, so I'll wait a day or two till the servers have settled down a bit [12:37] andreasn: Incremental. You get immediate FLAC download. [12:37] * _MMA_ wants the Ultra but will have to settle for Deluxe. [12:37] andreasn: _and_ the disks. [12:37] _MMA_: 300 for the three books, vinyl, disc, etc. is quite a steal really. [12:38] <_MMA_> Totally. Just gotta convince the wife of that. :P [12:39] to be totally honest... this could easily sell enough albums to make Trent a distributor (not that he isn't close already) [12:40] <_MMA_> :P [13:56] is this real? http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/03/02/two-new-themes-arrive-in-ubuntu-804/ [13:57] quite ugly, I have a lot of better colorschemes [13:57] Cimi: yes it is true [13:58] and the gtkrc included is very crude and in now way finished [13:58] Cimi: in any case, we need to stick with typical ubuntu colors as seen in the Ubuntulooks stuff [13:59] kwwii, but in that way people will think clearlooks and murrine are ugly too [14:02] kwwii, I have a lot of better *orange/brown* colorschemes [14:03] Cimi: yeah, I am not saying it has to be 100% the same but it should look visually equal [14:04] is it the same metacity theme as before? [14:05] kwwii, I see no reason to ship such ugly themes [14:05] Cimi: nobody is saying we will ship the themes as they are [14:05] at least ship two new themes when you'll have something good [14:05] ok [14:05] the idea is to have something to work on [14:06] so that we can move forward, if only slowly at first [14:06] bah, I can make a theme in 2 minutes... it's not the problem [14:12] the problem is making you do what I want :p [14:12] lol [14:12] * kwwii has to run to the store, be back in a bit [14:15] 1: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/901/schermataev0.png [14:15] 1: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5237/schermata1wo1.png [14:16] quick try [14:16] andreasn, impressions? [14:16] is that the active window? [14:17] I want the inactive window to look like that! [14:17] these are two themes I made when I said [14:17] bah, I can make a theme in 2 minutes... it's not the problem [14:18] :) [14:18] the flat-thingy you blogged about a couple of weeks ago was pretty nice [14:18] seems gilouche enabled that by default [14:22] I like the color of the metacity theme in the murrine screenshot, that looks pretty coo [14:22] l [14:22] anyway, I better get back to work [15:33] kwwii, ? [16:10] hello all [18:27] Cimi: murrine lacks inconsistent radio buttons :) you have a comment near the drawing code about it. but you better do something about it.. or i'll do! [18:27] hehe [18:31] kwwii: where is that email? did you send it to a list or me directly? [18:32] ubuntu-art. ok. will check it soon [23:35] kwwii, updates?