[03:22] <mouseclone> hello
[03:54] <mouseclone> I need to ask some questions... if any one is out there
[03:54] <mouseclone> the first major one is - is Ubuntu Mobile ready for prime time on a Q1U?
[07:29] <larsemil> amitk: would it be worth putting ubuntu mobile on a eee with touchscreen? or would i just miss alot of functionality?
[09:42] <amitk> mouseclone: ubuntu mobile should work well on the Q1
[09:44] <amitk> larsemil: reports seem to suggest the ubuntu mobile works on the eee. I am not sure if the touchscreen version has open drivers though.
[09:45] <larsemil> amitk: well, i get a cd with the touchscreen when i order it, and its says that there are drivers for windows and linux. so we will see
[09:45] <larsemil> if it works in normal ubuntu it would work with ubuntu-mobile i guess.
[09:46] <amitk> larsemil: from reports, ubuntu works well with the standard eee pc
[09:46] <larsemil> this i know. using it now
[09:46] <larsemil> :)
[09:46] <larsemil> but dont have my touchscreen yet
[09:47] <larsemil> but it would be cool to have ubuntu-mobile on it. looks good.
[09:49] <amitk> larsemil: aaaah. Good. To increase the chances of success, try to find out if the touchscreen driver is open source or binary only
[09:49] <larsemil> will do when i get it. maybe it works out of the box, we will see
[10:43] <lool> mjg59: Cool, cheese hildon support merged; nice work!
[10:43] <mjg59> lool: No problem
[10:43] <mjg59> lool: It'd be good if someone could test the fast resume stuff - works for me, but I don't have any Menlow hardware
[10:44] <lool> mjg59: I heard from amitk that it was working I think
[10:44] <lool> amitk: ^^^
[10:45] <lool> (I don't have menlow hardware either)
[10:45] <mjg59> I've refactored the Intel code somewhat
[10:45] <mjg59> Which makes it easier to work with
[10:45] <mjg59> update-grub probably needs some special-casing for lpia, but other than that I'm optimistic
[11:58] <slytherin> Mithrandir: Now that gvfs has obex support can you chnage bluez-gnome to drop the patch I added for disabling 'Browse Device..'? Also gnome-vfs-obexftp dependency can be dropped.
[11:59] <Mithrandir> slytherin: hum, we have gvfs obex support in hardy already?
[12:01] <lool> Mithrandir: gvfs (0.1.8svn20080227-0ubuntu1) hardy; urgency=low
[12:01] <lool>   * SVN snapshot version:
[12:01] <lool>     - new obexftp backend (lp: #186973)
[12:01] <slytherin> Mithrandir: Yes, not sure how good it is.
[12:01] <Mithrandir> shiny.
[12:02] <Mithrandir> I'll get that tested&fixed then
[12:02] <Mithrandir> slytherin: thanks for prodding
[12:02] <slytherin> Mithrandir: As per Sebastien's comment in bug #196239 it may not be as good as expected.
[12:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196239 in gvfs "Enable Browse device again when gvfs gets released again" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196239
[21:16] <smagoun> lool: do you have a minute to discuss bug 191064 ?
[21:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 191064 in ume-config-common "Set midbrowser as the default URL handler for HTTPS" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191064
[21:17] <lool> smagoun: Yes
[21:21] <lool> smagoun: (If you're talking in a /query, you might need to identify with nickserv as I don't see it)
[21:22] <smagoun> lool: sorry, I get interrupted in person anytime I ping someone.
[21:22] <smagoun> I'm willing to prepare a new ume-config-crown-beach for that bug
[21:24] <smagoun> lool: One problem with ume-c-c-b is that it needs repacking as a non-native package, and the version number in the PPA is 0.28; 0.26 is the latest upstream. Should I add an epoch to the pkg, or just clobber the version in the PPA and rebase on the upstream 0.26?
[21:24] <lool> Ok, so it would be nice to make it depend on the fixed ume-config-common to ensure that people relying on ume-config-crown-beach always get the gconf settings in some way
[21:24] <lool> smagoun: I see
[21:25] <lool> smagoun: epoch are the real fix, but they are horrible and should be avoided if possible; do you think you could try to talk to Intel to merge our changes as new versions?
[21:25] <lool> Or to release a 0.29 whatever it has? :)
[21:26] <smagoun> lool: I can try to talk Intel into that, yes.  I hate epochs too. :)
[21:26] <lool> smagoun: An alternative is to use some temporary ugly version numbering like 0.28+really0.26-0ubuntu1
[21:26] <lool> epochs will cause more mistakes in the future, and I fear an epoch race; not counting the fact that we will have one more thing to explain WRT to versionning which is already quite complex
[21:27] <smagoun> lool: I'd rather not do that, nobody ever seems to know what to do in that case
[21:27] <smagoun> I'll talk to Intel..
[21:27] <lool> Let's try to talk with Intel; we should have commit access to these trees I think
[21:28] <smagoun> AFAIK I only have access to image-creator; are we supposed to have commit to everything?
[21:28] <lool> smagoun: I think it's per module too, but I don't see a good reason they shouldn't trust us; they are uploading to our ppa after all
[21:29] <lool> It's particularly painful with git because it's something not integrated with launchpad and hence our teams  :-/
[21:31] <lool> (I mean we don't have any group access control or anything)
[21:31] <lool> I wonder whether we should set something up on rookery or so
[21:31] <lool> But then Intel wouldn't get access, ah
[21:31]  * lool goes to bed now
[21:41] <benj3one> night lool
[23:16] <GrueMaster> davidm: ping.
[23:17] <davidm> Hi GrueMaster whats up?
[23:17] <GrueMaster> So, I'm going over the image you sent us Friday, and I've found a few glaring issues.
[23:17] <GrueMaster> Sudo still doesn't work until the host name is added to /etc/hosts.
[23:18] <GrueMaster> And the 3D drivers are not installed.
[23:18] <davidm> I found out the Intel regressed our fixes by accident on the sudo issue
[23:19] <davidm> We have sent in a patch to Intel to avoid that happening again.
[23:19] <GrueMaster> figures.  
[23:19] <GrueMaster> Don't say I said that.
[23:19] <GrueMaster> :P
[23:20] <GrueMaster> As to the 3D drivers, is there some licensing issue?  I know they're binary only.
[23:20] <davidm> We asked to have a pach applied about a month ago, it was not done and a week ago last Friday when a bunch of stuff was dropped into the PPA a bunch of stuff either broke, or regressed.
[23:21] <GrueMaster> ok
[23:21] <davidm> I'll see, since we can't include them in the normal builds, but should be able to in private builds
[23:21] <davidm> Wait on please
[23:21] <davidm> s/on/one/
[23:21] <GrueMaster> will do.
[23:29] <davidm> GrueMaster, is just the userspace binary missing?
[23:29] <davidm> I'm trying to figure out what did not get installed
[23:30] <GrueMaster> it looks like libgl1-mesa-dri-psb, psb-video, and xorg-modules-Xpsb are missing.  I'll verify the actual file names.
[23:31] <GrueMaster> I have the source tree here and can rebuild them, just noticed they weren't there.
[23:32] <davidm> OK that will help, if you can verify which packages got missed I can make sure they get picked up for the private build without fail
[23:32] <GrueMaster> Also, libva1 is mia.
[23:33] <davidm> Given how touchy X and the kernel I just want to install exactly what is needed and no more
[23:34] <GrueMaster> ok, but without these, helix is useless.
[23:36] <davidm> helix is useless?  Did not realize helix was 3D, thought it was 2D interesting.
[23:36] <GrueMaster> It uses the 3D engine to render the frames.
[23:36] <GrueMaster> Most video hardware decoders do (nVidia, and ATI, for example).
[23:37] <davidm> Well I'll take the tar ball and open the project and attempt to install the packages and have that put into the private area
[23:37] <GrueMaster> I'll see about making the closed source modules into a single package.  Less confusing that way, I think.
[23:43] <davidm> GrueMaster, that would be good I think, I must have missed the step while I was getting the rest straightened out.
[23:44] <davidm> As soon as StevenK is online I'll get this taken care of.
[23:46] <GrueMaster> ok
[23:50] <mouseclone> anyone use the touch screen Eee setup on jkkmobile.blogspot.com?
[23:51] <mouseclone> someone talked earlier about a touchscreen Eee
[23:51] <mouseclone> using Ubuntu Mobile