| bddebian | Heya gang | 00:28 |
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| RAOF | Howdie bddebian. | 00:53 |
| bddebian | Hi RAOF | 00:54 |
| LaserJock | anybody know off-hand a where native packages are talked about it Debian Policy or DDR? | 00:59 |
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| Daviey | j #ubuntu-offtopic | 03:08 |
| Daviey | sorry | 03:08 |
| jdong | any MC'ers online? I'm wondering what's the situation with Kmos and Launchpad? | 03:34 |
| jdong | He recently added activity to bug 190028 and further filed duplicate bug report 197785 with non-useful information | 03:35 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 190028 in deluge-torrent "deluge crashed with SIGSEGV in libtorrent::piece_manager::export_piece_map()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190028 | 03:35 |
| jdong | soren: you're MC right? ^^ | 03:35 |
| nixternal | jdong: what's up? | 03:42 |
| jdong | nixternal: I was wonder whether the MC has revised its decision about Marco Rodrigues posting to Launchpad... He has generated about 25% of my bugmail over the past two days | 03:49 |
| nixternal | tell me, is he marking stuff as 'Fix Released' and stuff or just commenting? | 03:51 |
| nixternal | ie. deluge | 03:51 |
| jdong | nixternal: well.. he made a comment on a bug that he filed that it's still not fixed in Hardy, which I have absolutely no problem with, but... | 03:51 |
| jdong | nixternal: he also for some reason filed a new bug against Deluge with the same information and marked it duplicate of his original bug | 03:52 |
| nixternal | wth | 03:52 |
| jdong | nixternal: and to make matters worse apport retraced his new bug which resulted in like 4 more bugmails | 03:52 |
| nixternal | this dude is getting on my last damn nerve | 03:53 |
| jdong | yeah, I mean... it wouldn't hurt if he thought a step ahead before clicking on buttons that generate bugmail | 03:53 |
| nixternal | it is LaserJock's fault | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | anybody know off-hand of a package using CDBS that has a get-orig-source ? | 03:54 |
| jdong | lol | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: isn't everything? | 03:55 |
| superm1 | ipod convenience :) | 03:55 |
| nixternal | superm1: answer LaserJock, you are the get-orig-source mastah | 03:55 |
| nixternal | hahah told ya! | 03:55 |
| superm1 | although gmyth's is prettier | 03:55 |
| nixternal | I was going to say, anything with 'mythbuntu' in the name :p | 03:55 |
| nixternal | or anything touched by superm1 | 03:55 |
| superm1 | yeah most of the stuff i do in cdbs has it | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | superm1: excellent, thanks | 03:58 |
| superm1 | no prob. | 03:59 |
| superm1 | nixternal, when you had your server setup with sbuild, did you have it set so you could dput thing there and sbuild would take over | 03:59 |
| superm1 | and send you an email when done? | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | superm1: 2nd question. How do I use it? :-) | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | I tried make -f debian/rules get-orig-source | 04:01 |
| superm1 | LaserJock, from the root of the directory, you run debian/rules get-orig-source | 04:02 |
| superm1 | just like that | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | I get: make: Nothing to be done for `get-orig-source'. | 04:02 |
| superm1 | dont use make | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | ah | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | still no help | 04:03 |
| superm1 | the rule isn't working? | 04:03 |
| superm1 | or what's happening? | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | I would think it *should* do something | 04:03 |
| superm1 | it does | 04:03 |
| superm1 | it branches bzr | 04:03 |
| superm1 | and tar's it up | 04:03 |
| superm1 | you have cdbs installed locally and bzr right? | 04:04 |
| LaserJock | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5220/ | 04:04 |
| LaserJock | that's my debian/rules ^^ | 04:04 |
| superm1 | i'd guess it can't switch to DEBIAN_DIR | 04:05 |
| superm1 | for some reason | 04:05 |
| superm1 | you sure you have that DEBIAN_DIR defined right? | 04:05 |
| LaserJock | it's near the top of rules | 04:06 |
| superm1 | right, but where is MAKEFILE_LIST | 04:06 |
| superm1 | coming from? | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | heck if I know | 04:06 |
| superm1 | i'd say nuke cd ${DEBIAN_DIR}/.. && \ | 04:06 |
| superm1 | if you run the rule from the root of the directory that's not necessary | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | I'm just using the stuff from PackagingGuide/Basic#CommonMistakes | 04:07 |
| superm1 | well comment out DEBIAN_DIR and try that | 04:07 |
| superm1 | you need to debug which part of the rule is failing | 04:07 |
| superm1 | and that's the best way to start | 04:07 |
| protonchris | LaserJock: make sure that you are using tabs under the get-orig-source rule and not spaces. | 04:07 |
| RAOF | LaserJock: You probably want to add get-orig-source to .PHONY, too. | 04:08 |
| RAOF | Otherwise make will think that it should generate a file called get-orig-source :) | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | RAOF: there is no .PHONY | 04:09 |
| jdong | whatever makes it happy (ha ha ha ok no more puns tonight) | 04:09 |
| RAOF | There probably should be (but I don't _think_ it's mandatory) | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | my assumption was that cdbs was doing .PHONY | 04:09 |
| superm1 | i've never had to do one for cdbs | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | hmm, it's almost right | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | it just dumps the .org.tar.gz one dir down | 04:11 |
| jdong | Is there anything inherently special about jeos that I wouldn't get from, say, debootstrapping? | 04:12 |
| LaserJock | bah | 04:12 |
| LaserJock | I think the major problem was just what protonchris said, I had spaces instead of tabs | 04:13 |
| LaserJock | because I copy-n-pasted from the wiki page | 04:13 |
| protonchris | Yeah, that got me before. | 04:13 |
| jdong | LaserJock: you should use a real text editor such as vim, which highlights things in annoying red when it thinks it's not correct :) | 04:14 |
| LaserJock | I usually do use vim | 04:14 |
| LaserJock | but use nano a lot as well for small stuff | 04:15 |
| superm1 | i use geany, which puts dots where there are spaces and arrows where there are tabs | 04:15 |
| jdong | I use emacs, which makes me wait long enough that I realize I used tabs instead of spaces | 04:16 |
| superm1 | haha | 04:16 |
| ScottK | jdong: My experience with kmos is there's no point in just chatting about him. I'd suggest sending mail to the MC mail list with complaints. | 04:42 |
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| * StevenK sniffs. Debian bug 469039 | 05:55 | |
| ubotu | Debian bug 469039 in ftp.debian.org "RM: linda -- RoM; deprecated" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/469039 | 05:55 |
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| RAOF | StevenK: Awwww! | 06:10 |
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| warp10 | Good morning | 06:45 |
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| Iulian | Hey | 11:30 |
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| Hobbsee | nixternal: so, shoot him. | 11:52 |
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| Skiessi | "<intengu> any repository with apache tomcat 6 on ubuntu it is version 5" | 12:24 |
| slytherin | Skiessi: on Ubuntu it is 5 and 5.5 | 12:25 |
| Skiessi | I know | 12:25 |
| \sh | For me, tomcat6 with a eclipse jdt is very difficult to maintain somehow...regarding duplication of sources in ubuntu/debian | 12:30 |
| \sh | but I'm not a java expert on this...and how we get eclipse jdt + tomcat6 in sync | 12:30 |
| slytherin | Is anyone using ftp via nautilus here using the latest gvfs in hardy? | 12:35 |
| Skiessi | you just have to put some ftp server as the path or is some package required? | 12:38 |
| Skiessi | I can't connect to ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/ as anonymous | 12:40 |
| slytherin | Skiessi: I tried that. First it asks for username/password and when I provide information it gives error - "invalid reply, try some other viewer" | 12:40 |
| Skiessi | same | 12:40 |
| Skiessi | I don't know about Hardy's schelude, but is there some restriction on updating packages now? There's been only a few updates lately... | 12:41 |
| slytherin | Skiessi: Yes, we are in feature freeze now | 12:42 |
| Skiessi | security updates can be done? | 12:44 |
| slytherin | Skiessi: of course | 12:47 |
| Iulian | Hello RainCT. Do you have two minutes for a /query? | 13:12 |
| TuxCrafter | is there a way to check if there are applications installed that depend on *-dev packages | 13:13 |
| TuxCrafter | because | 13:13 |
| TuxCrafter | when i try to run | 13:13 |
| TuxCrafter | sudo apt-get remove $(dpkg -l '*-dev' | awk '{print $2}' | sed -n '6,${p}')\ | 13:13 |
| TuxCrafter | it wil remove almost my compleet isnstallation | 13:13 |
| slytherin | TuxCrafter: Why do you want to remove -dev packages? | 13:18 |
| TuxCrafter | slytherin: to clean up my system and remove unwanted applications | 13:18 |
| TuxCrafter | slytherin: i think i found the problem | 13:19 |
| TuxCrafter | xutils | 13:19 |
| TuxCrafter | slytherin: sudo apt-get remove $(dpkg -l '*-dev' | awk '{print $2}' | sed -n '6,${p}' | sed /xutils-dev/d) | 13:25 |
| TuxCrafter | so going to reboot | 13:26 |
| TuxCrafter | sudo apt-get remove xutils-dev | 13:35 |
| TuxCrafter | that command removes my compleet xserver system | 13:36 |
| RainCT | Hey Iulian. Sorry, didn't see your message... Sure :) | 13:36 |
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| TuxCrafter | xutils depends on xutils-dev | 13:40 |
| TuxCrafter | why is tht | 13:40 |
| TuxCrafter | that | 13:40 |
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| \sh | ScottK: when I knew which wine version will work in the future before hardy release, I would be happy | 14:22 |
| \sh | ScottK: but thanks for your whitelist ack :) | 14:22 |
| ScottK | \sh: Sure. I'm just happy to have you and YokoZar figure it out and not have to be bothered with FFe paperwork. Maybe someone else on motu-release will agree. | 14:22 |
| \sh | ScottK: well, the only thing I know, there is something strange happening with the compiler...as Yokozar said, his gutsy version was build with an old gcc...(wine + gcc 4.1. on hardy FTBFS as well) | 14:24 |
| hellboy195 | ScottK: and finally added a comment to LP bug? ^^ | 14:25 |
| ScottK | \sh: There's always 4.2 and 3.4 you can try. | 14:26 |
| ScottK | hellboy195: Which bug? | 14:26 |
| hellboy195 | ScottK: PPA | 14:26 |
| DaveMorris | how can I add my ppa repo to my pbuilder? | 14:27 |
| ScottK | hellboy195: Ah. Thanks. | 14:27 |
| hellboy195 | ScottK: for? | 14:27 |
| hellboy195 | DarkSun88: log in into pbuilder and edit /etc/apt/sources.list | 14:27 |
| hellboy195 | hoi DarkSun88 | 14:27 |
| ScottK | hellboy195: I thought you were saying you'd commented on the PPA bug. | 14:28 |
| DarkSun89 | Hi hellboy195 | 14:28 |
| hellboy195 | DarkSun88: would you mind looking at something. just a sec | 14:28 |
| \sh | ScottK: 3.4 is another shot...but 4.2.3 doesn't work...(rebuild it today) | 14:28 |
| DarkSun89 | hellboy195: Not now. Sorry. | 14:28 |
| \sh | that reminds me to file a FFe for claws-mail | 14:28 |
| hellboy195 | ScottK: no ^^ but yesterday you were keen to add a comment. a *bad* comment | 14:29 |
| \sh | which I forgot over the weekend :( | 14:29 |
| ScottK | hellboy195: Right. I managed to avoid the temptation IIRC. | 14:29 |
| hellboy195 | ScottK: good boy :) | 14:29 |
| ScottK | \sh: If 3.3.1 is just bug fixes, no FFe needed. | 14:29 |
| \sh | ScottK: new features added...(at least some small ones) | 14:29 |
| ScottK | K | 14:29 |
| \sh | ScottK: I'll have to follow up still on the extra-plugins... | 14:30 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:30 |
| DaveMorris | hmm I log, add the repo but it doesn't get saved | 14:35 |
| * ScottK hands DaveMorris --save-after-login | 14:40 | |
| DaveMorris | it might also be getting over ridden I think since I use DIST=blah | 14:40 |
| DaveMorris | but that did it, thanks | 14:42 |
| ScottK | No problem. | 14:42 |
| \sh | ScottK: gcc 3.4 ftbfs too :) | 14:52 |
| ScottK | Yum | 14:53 |
| ScottK | gcc-snapshot? | 14:53 |
| \sh | ScottK: you gcc 4.3? this will be worse | 14:54 |
| \sh | ScottK: actually it needs to be compiled with our official toolchain of hardy... | 14:54 |
| ScottK | \sh: Was kidding. I agree with you. | 14:55 |
| emgent | heya | 14:57 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 15:27 |
| geser | Hi bddebian | 15:38 |
| bddebian | Heya geser | 15:42 |
| emgent | hi people :P | 15:42 |
| bddebian | Hi emgent | 15:43 |
| \sh | ok..send a google adsense violation notice hopefully he will be stopped in the near future (it's the linuxindex issue) | 15:50 |
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| \sh | another two bugs fixed in lighty | 16:47 |
| emgent | \sh, ARGH | 16:48 |
| emgent | hard work in lighty ehehe | 16:48 |
| \sh | emgent: naaa..no security stuff | 16:48 |
| emgent | oh lol :P | 16:48 |
| \sh | emgent: 1. index.html now points to launchpad and ubuntu (lp: #115565) and lighty had a problem with pdf files...where you have to add a accept ranges parameter...(http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/ticket/541 and patch: http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/changeset/2090) | 16:49 |
| \sh | oh well... | 16:50 |
| emgent | argh | 16:50 |
| \sh | s/who/which/ in changelog | 16:50 |
| \sh | damn non native speakers like me ,) | 16:51 |
| emgent | me too :P | 16:51 |
| emgent | i talk Engrish! | 16:51 |
| \sh | emgent: thx to my buddy here at work who pointed me to this problem :) | 16:51 |
| emgent | s/talk/speak/ | 16:51 |
| \sh | emgent: here it's Denglan ;) | 16:53 |
| emgent | :) | 16:53 |
| hellboy195 | pochu: thx for looking at my stuff and sorry for the incorrect changelog entry | 17:07 |
| \sh | now THIS FCKS ME UP | 17:11 |
| \sh | the problem is really running wine from sourcedir works...running from another directory doesn't work | 17:12 |
| \sh | oh much better | 17:13 |
| \sh | source compiling wine on my amd64 works...but not via sbuild/buildd | 17:13 |
| \sh | well...working on it tomorrow somehow | 17:17 |
| * \sh goes for dinner | 17:17 | |
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| hellboy195 | The binary for a game should go to /usr/games and not to /usr/bin right? | 17:18 |
| RainCT | hellboy195: yes | 17:18 |
| hellboy195 | RainCT: k, thx :) | 17:22 |
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| zul | siretart: ping | 17:56 |
| siretart | zul: hi! (need to leave in ~5mins, though) | 18:12 |
| zul | siretart: hey you are the maintainer for boxbackup in debian but it depends on libddb4.3 and we want to move it to libdb4.6 is that ok with you? | 18:14 |
| zul | it builds with ok | 18:14 |
| siretart | zul: there is even a bugreport in debian open about this. | 18:16 |
| zul | ah didnt think to look | 18:17 |
| siretart | zul: fixed in experimental | 18:17 |
| siretart | zul: but the changes are too big there, and I for this bug, just flipping the build depends was the right thing to do | 18:17 |
| siretart | so yes, go ahead! | 18:17 |
| zul | ok ill upload what I have here | 18:17 |
| siretart | thanks! | 18:18 |
| james_w | hi siretart. I hope all is well with you. | 18:18 |
| siretart | hey james_w! thanks for asking! how are you? | 18:18 |
| james_w | siretart: great thanks. It's the bzr sprint this week, shame you can't be there. | 18:19 |
| siretart | james_w: yes, I'd love to | 18:20 |
| siretart | damn, gotta leave. perhaps I can catch you later here? | 18:20 |
| james_w | are you busy with work currently? | 18:20 |
| james_w | siretart: I'll be here for a while. | 18:20 |
| siretart | ok, I'll try to be back after dinner | 18:20 |
| siretart | cu later! | 18:21 |
| james_w | siretart: bye | 18:22 |
| RadlyEel | Anyone here who can answer a newbie developer question? | 18:25 |
| broonie | RadlyEel: just ask, if someone can answer they probably will. | 18:25 |
| RainCT | RadlyEel: if it's a packaging question, just ask; else, you're on the wrong channel | 18:25 |
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| RadlyEel | The PackagingGuide *seems* to have an error in it, but I can't be sure since it's my first time through. | 18:26 |
| jdong | what is it? | 18:26 |
| RadlyEel | In the esample changelog, the command is "ls ../../ubuntu/hello-debhelper-2.1.1/debian/changelog" | 18:27 |
| RainCT | RadlyEel: URL please? | 18:28 |
| RadlyEel | I'd feel a LOT better if the hello-debhelper-2.1.1 node was hello-debhelper-2.2 instead. | 18:28 |
| RadlyEel | Navigating to it now. Just a sec. | 18:28 |
| RadlyEel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete | 18:28 |
| RadlyEel | Look for the line that says "Now look at the changlog..." | 18:29 |
| RainCT | RadlyEel: it says "less", not "ls" :) | 18:30 |
| RadlyEel | Right. Sorrry. I was using ls to see why less couldn't read the file. | 18:30 |
| RainCT | ah | 18:30 |
| RainCT | RadlyEel: in which directory are you? | 18:31 |
| jdong | I don't understand why it should be -2.2? | 18:31 |
| jdong | maybe I'm not looking at the right section | 18:31 |
| RadlyEel | hello-debhelper-2.1.1/debian | 18:31 |
| jdong | I see downloading and debianizing version 2.1.1. ,no reference to 2.2 | 18:31 |
| RadlyEel | Let me find the sequence that got me here. Just a sec | 18:32 |
| RadlyEel | There are two commands: "cd hello-debhelper-2.1.1", followed by "dh_make -e ..." That leaves you in the hello-debhelper-2.1.1 directory | 18:33 |
| RainCT | RadlyEel: there is a "cd debian" somewhat more above | 18:34 |
| RadlyEel | The version downloaded at the top (apt-get source hello-debhelper) is hello-debhelper-2.2 | 18:34 |
| * jdong looks at madison | 18:35 | |
| jdong | yeah since Feisty we are at 2.2 | 18:35 |
| RadlyEel | So maybe the guide is just a tad behind? I can handle that; I just need to know for sure that's the problem. | 18:37 |
| jdong | right, it looks like the guide is a bit out of date with regards to the version of hello | 18:37 |
| RadlyEel | K. Thanks. That's perfect. I can make some progress now. :) | 18:38 |
| emgent | heya people | 18:38 |
| Amaranth | jdong: Who would have expected the version to ever increase? | 18:38 |
| jdong | Amaranth: lol | 18:39 |
| RadlyEel | That's the value we newbies bring. :)) | 18:39 |
| RadlyEel | And now I know how to get help when I need it. I'll probably be back. Thanks again. | 18:40 |
| jdong | RadlyEel: if you'd like to update the guide to match your experience, it's a wiki :) | 18:41 |
| RadlyEel | I might as well get registered and actually make a contribution. :) | 18:42 |
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| cbx33 | hey hey all | 19:00 |
| cbx33 | who is handling GSoC this time round? | 19:00 |
| zul | have you checked on #ubuntu-devel? | 19:05 |
| cbx33 | no | 19:05 |
| emgent | night people | 19:05 |
| jdong | Present rate : 11579 mW | 19:06 |
| jdong | Remaining capacity : 29230 mWh, 57.48%, 02:31:27 | 19:07 |
| jdong | whoo! | 19:07 |
| jdong | thanks hardy devs :) | 19:07 |
| cbx33 | jdong: what's that for? | 19:07 |
| jdong | cbx33: macbook core 2 duo | 19:07 |
| cbx33 | coool | 19:07 |
| jdong | yeah, quite impressive | 19:07 |
| * cbx33 is playing with cacti | 19:07 | |
| jdong | with very minimal tweaking on my part | 19:07 |
| cbx33 | cool | 19:07 |
| cbx33 | wish i had a fairly decent laptop | 19:08 |
| jdong | the Gutsy feigure was 13-15W | 19:08 |
| jdong | and of course, compiz is running | 19:08 |
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| Amaranth | jdong: which, iirc, uses like 0.1W extra | 19:09 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 19:10 |
| cbx33 | nice | 19:10 |
| jdong | Amaranth: on Intel? surely vblank firing off costs more than that | 19:10 |
| cbx33 | this laptop is crawling | 19:10 |
| cbx33 | but I'm slowly making it better | 19:10 |
| Amaranth | although you do get 60 wakeups a second because of it thanks to no dynamic vblank interrupts | 19:10 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 19:10 |
| Amaranth | so your cpu can't sleep as long | 19:10 |
| jdong | atheros wifi is my biggest offender though | 19:11 |
| cbx33 | :( | 19:11 |
| Amaranth | jdong: also apparently the x server sits in a spinloop waiting for the GPU to finish when it sends it a command | 19:12 |
| jdong | Amaranth: lovely | 19:12 |
| Amaranth | which would be why those X perf tester things melt your GPU and CPU | 19:12 |
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| MTecknology | how can I create my very own repository full of pretty packages? and how do I create the packages from the source to add into it? | 20:33 |
| murlidhar | http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html | 20:33 |
| murlidhar | this might help you | 20:34 |
| bmhm | thanks for the mail, scottK (scottk2?). I will take a look at dasher's language bug now. | 20:39 |
| broonie | Does Zhengpen Hou IRC? | 21:03 |
| broonie | freeflying: Ping? | 21:05 |
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| alex-weej | does anyone know how to downgrade packages from some third party PPA to distro versions? | 21:16 |
| alex-weej | other than going through each one and choosing "Force version" in synaptic | 21:16 |
| jcastro | apt-get install firefox/hardy | 21:17 |
| jdong | alex-weej: apt-get install pkgname=ubuntu_version or pkgname/hardy (assuming the PPA has been removed for the latter) | 21:17 |
| jcastro | or whatever the package is | 21:17 |
| jdong | alex-weej: though synaptic's "local/obsolete" view is very handy for this | 21:17 |
| alex-weej | hm, i guess that could work if i do it all at once | 21:18 |
| alex-weej | i tried it last night and ended up breaking my networking | 21:18 |
| alex-weej | but i think it was because my configuration wasn't downgraded | 21:18 |
| jdong | cat list_of_packages | xargs -i apt-get install {}/hardy | 21:18 |
| jdong | alex-weej: and I don't know of a single packager who writes or checks their scripts for downgradability, so packages with heavy postinst/prerm activity are more likely to nuke themselves on downgrade | 21:19 |
| alex-weej | but there's surely some way i can force a package to reinstall its configuration files too? | 21:20 |
| alex-weej | i don't mind having to set it up again as long as it actually works. i think the problem i had was dbus policy. | 21:20 |
| broonie | most robust is probably to purge the currently installed package then install again | 21:22 |
| alex-weej | can i do that without uninstalling all the dependants? | 21:22 |
| broonie | dpkg --force is probably your friend :( | 21:22 |
| alex-weej | haha, probably | 21:22 |
| blueyed | Should Firefox plugins get installed into /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins or /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, or even /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins ? | 21:24 |
| blueyed | asac: ^ you might know about it :) | 21:24 |
| RainCT | blueyed: iirc for Firefox 3.0: usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions/ | 21:27 |
| RainCT | blueyed: and usr/lib/firefox/extensions/ for 2.0 | 21:27 |
| RainCT | blueyed: the package should have it's own directory in /usr/share, and then the necessary files should be linked into those extension directories | 21:28 |
| alex-weej | thanks | 21:30 |
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| blueyed | RainCT: the directories appear to be correct according to what /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/xpi.mk says (from mozilla-devscripts), but links are not used really. E.g. ubufox even installs the same files into both directories.. | 21:35 |
| RainCT | blueyed: well, that's what asac told me to do, and what I've seen in other extensions | 21:38 |
| asac | blueyed: if plugin is compatible with ffox 2 + 3 you use firefox + firefox-addons + iceweasel for now ... if just ffox 3, use firefox-addons only | 22:04 |
| asac | blueyed: and like RainCT said, create links and install your extension to /usr/share or /usr/lib | 22:04 |
| asac | blueyed: and consider to create an upstream branch and a packaging branch in firefox-extensions LP project :) | 22:05 |
| asac | blueyed: http://code.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions | 22:06 |
| blueyed | asac: thanks for explaining. Is there a wiki page with this info by any chance? | 22:08 |
| hellboy195 | asac: already had time to look at nspluginwrapper? | 22:09 |
| blueyed | asac: I was looking into bug 179588 - and would only change/extend the link creation there.. | 22:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 179588 in swfdec-mozilla "swfdec-mozilla not working in hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179588 | 22:09 |
| Laney | Is there a known problem with some packages 404ing on some mirrors? | 22:16 |
| mathiaz | zul: I'm reviewing your samba merge diff. It seems that you've just listed the patches that have been dropped in the changelog entry. | 22:16 |
| RainCT | good night | 22:36 |
| james_w | Laney: you may need an apt-get update if you haven't for a while. | 22:38 |
| Laney | james_w: Thanks | 22:52 |
| Laney | Can anyone explain why cc would be called with different arguments depending on whether I'm building with debuild or pbuilder - http://dpaste.com/37835/ | 22:52 |
| azeem | Laney: do you have CFLAGS set in the environment or something? | 22:54 |
| Laney | azeem: No | 22:54 |
| RAOF | Laney: Because you haven't got the dbus & hal development libraries specified as build-dependencies, so pkg-config (and hense make) can't find the necessary CFLAGS | 22:54 |
| azeem | hrm, no idea then | 22:54 |
| azeem | shouldn't HAL error out during configure then? | 22:55 |
| Laney | RAOF: They are. | 22:55 |
| RAOF | Is there a configure step? | 22:55 |
| Laney | nope | 22:56 |
| RAOF | Laney: In that case, post full logs. There's insufficient context there to help you. | 22:56 |
| RAOF | Laney: Is pkgconfig a listed build-dep? | 22:56 |
| Laney | RAOF: No. | 22:56 |
| Laney | What would you like logs of? debuild or pbuilder? | 22:56 |
| RAOF | That would be at least one of the problems, then. | 22:56 |
| RAOF | Try it with a build-depend on pkgconfig (or whatever that package is called) first. | 22:57 |
| james_w | Laney: do you have different versions of dpkg-dev inside and outside pbuilder? | 22:58 |
| Laney | james_w: No, they're the same | 22:59 |
| RadlyEel | I've worked my way through PackagingGuide/Complete to the "Building the Package" point, and have run into a sticky wicket. The output of "debuild" tells me i "do not appear to have all build dependencies properly met", and recommends running /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends", but that also does not exist, and apt-get can't find it to install. | 23:00 |
| RAOF | RadlyEel: That binary is a part of the pbuilder package. You may be interested in the "apt-file" package, which would allow you to run "apt-file search pbuilder-satisfydepends", and recieve a list of all packages which contain a file matching that name. | 23:01 |
| mok0 | RadlyEel: another way is to manually install the packages listed in Build-Depends: | 23:01 |
| RAOF | That also works :) | 23:01 |
| Laney | RAOF: Build-depending on pkg-config doesn't seem to have made a difference :( | 23:02 |
| RadlyEel | RAOF's looks like a slightly more global solution. Is it? | 23:02 |
| RAOF | Laney: Curses. Therefore, we'll need full logs. pbuilder first, since that's the failing one. | 23:02 |
| Laney | RAOF: http://dpaste.com/37842/ | 23:03 |
| mok0 | RadlyEel: yes, you want to install pbuilder | 23:03 |
| Laney | I see "dpkg-buildpackage: set CFLAGS to default value: -g -O2" | 23:03 |
| RAOF | Laney: Awwwm. Can you pastebin the makefile? | 23:05 |
| RadlyEel | mok_0: pbuilder is already up to date. | 23:06 |
| james_w | RadlyEel: weird. Do you have anythin in /usr/lib/pbuilder? | 23:07 |
| Laney | RAOF: http://dpaste.com/37843/ | 23:07 |
| RadlyEel | Quite a few scripts. | 23:08 |
| james_w | CFLAGS ?= -O2 -g -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 `pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0` -Wall | 23:08 |
| james_w | so the pkg-config stuff won't be set if dpkg-buildpackage sets CFLAGS. Laney, does dpkg-buildpackage do that outside pbuilder? | 23:09 |
| RadlyEel | And pbuilder-satisfydepends is one of them. | 23:09 |
| Laney | james_w: No, I just looked for that and can't see it. Why would it be different? | 23:09 |
| james_w | Laney: that's why I asked about the versions, that's the only reason I know that it would be different at the moment. | 23:09 |
| james_w | There may be more, for instance environment variable. | 23:10 |
| james_w | RadlyEel: and you can't run /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends? | 23:10 |
| RadlyEel | Gag. I left out part of the path to it on the command line. My bad. | 23:11 |
| james_w | RadlyEel: oops | 23:11 |
| Laney | The plot thickens. So if I run dpkg-buildpackage directly I get the error (and CFLAGS is set) | 23:13 |
| RAOF | Laney: That makefile, if not broken, then seriously strange. | 23:14 |
| RAOF | Like that sentence. Verbs are for wooses. | 23:14 |
| Laney | RAOF: Haha, I agree. But I'm not even doing the first Ubuntu revision here - these problems are preexisting. | 23:15 |
| Laney | I submitted a 3 line patch to the preinst and the reviewer flagged up the build problem :( | 23:15 |
| RAOF | Laney: So it's been *built* in Ubunty before? | 23:15 |
| Laney | RAOF: Apparently. | 23:15 |
| RAOF | Right. We're probably now setting CFLAGS to do fun things. | 23:16 |
| RAOF | Laney: Time to patch the makefile! | 23:16 |
| Laney | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/ppm/+builds | 23:17 |
| Laney | RAOF: Woohoo! | 23:17 |
| james_w | There's been loads of uploads to fix issues like this, due to the change to dpkg-dev to set CFLAGS | 23:18 |
| * RAOF starts to wonder why his .evolution directory is 2.2GB | 23:18 | |
| james_w | Laney: one solution is to pull the pkg-config stuff out of CFLAGS in the Makefile to its own variable, so that it isn't stomped on, but you can still change -O etc. | 23:18 |
| james_w | That may well be accepted upstream. | 23:19 |
| RAOF | Another solution would be to simply append the pkgconfig stuff onto CFLAGS. But pulling it into a separate variable is possibly cleaner. | 23:19 |
| Laney | james_w, RAOF: I'm a little over my head here. So would I declare a new variable in the Makefile to be `pkg-config ...` and then put this after ${MAKE}? | 23:22 |
| james_w | Laney: yeah, that's the idea. | 23:22 |
| RAOF | Laney: The easiest thing would probably be to remove the pkgconfig thing from their initial CFLAGS ?= bit, and add a "CFLAGS := $(CFLAGS) <pkgconfig bit>" after it. | 23:23 |
| Laney | RAOF: Right. I'll give it a go. | 23:24 |
| Laney | Wish me luck! | 23:24 |
| james_w | RAOF: do you not mean CFLAGS += after? | 23:24 |
| RAOF | james_w: That'd be an automakeism, right? Standard make doesn't actually support += ? | 23:24 |
| james_w | RAOF: no, I looked it up -> http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Appending | 23:25 |
| RAOF | james_w, Laney: Even better. Do += :) | 23:25 |
| RadlyEel | I got the following error on debuild: "dpkg-source: error: source package has two conflicting values - hello and hello-debhelper", which I fixed by editing the Source: line in the "control" file to make it say "hello-debhelper" instead of "hello". I've been fixing up the Wiki to show corrections, but I'm not sure this is the best solution to this problem. | 23:25 |
| james_w | RadlyEel: that sounds right. Were there two lines? | 23:26 |
| james_w | RadlyEel: otherwise it is the package in $(head -n 1 debian/changelog) that must be the same | 23:26 |
| RadlyEel | No, just the one loine | 23:28 |
| RadlyEel | line | 23:28 |
| Laney | RAOF: Gah. It's literally appending `pkg...` | 23:36 |
| * Laney head in hands | 23:37 | |
| james_w | rubbish. | 23:37 |
| james_w | the other option is to unset CFLAGS. | 23:37 |
| Laney | Mmm | 23:37 |
| Laney | Why wouldn't it expand in +=? | 23:38 |
| RAOF | Laney: += $(shell pkg-config foo) ? | 23:38 |
| * Laney is so close! | 23:42 | |
| Laney | I take it back | 23:47 |
| ScottK | Laney: No need to take it back. Just pick a different definition of "so". | 23:51 |
| Laney | Grr. I'll come back to it tomorrow. | 23:56 |
| Laney | Night all | 23:56 |
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