| Ubulette | ok, i think i've got it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5213/ | 00:07 |
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| Ubulette | no more tarball for us | 00:07 |
| asac | hu? | 00:10 |
| Ubulette | xulrunner/installer is never cleaned up, we generate the .pc files in there | 00:12 |
| Ubulette | so i needed the build system to recurse in there too | 00:12 |
| Ubulette | but it started to generate the tarballs we find in the ftp | 00:13 |
| asac | ok | 00:13 |
| Ubulette | i hope the patch is ok | 00:13 |
| Ubulette | it works for me but no idea for windows and mac | 00:14 |
| asac | isn't the installer build somehow different for us? | 00:14 |
| Ubulette | it's just a tar | 00:19 |
| asac | Ubulette: how about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5214/ | 00:19 |
| Ubulette | simpler but i thought clean was deprecated | 00:20 |
| asac | Ubulette: thats the way install: is hooked into | 00:21 |
| asac | if you step down from installer/ it will always build the full installer | 00:21 |
| asac | which is more than we want | 00:21 |
| asac | no idea about clean | 00:21 |
| asac | maybe distclean:: is enough | 00:21 |
| Ubulette | just distclean:: will do for now | 00:37 |
| Ubulette | cleaner than ever | 00:39 |
| Ubulette | we just drop: | 00:39 |
| Ubulette | -./mozilla/.mozconfig.mk | 00:39 |
| Ubulette | -./mozilla/.mozconfig.out | 00:39 |
| Ubulette | no more leftovers, no more ugly clean in debian/rules | 00:40 |
| asac | :) | 00:40 |
| asac | sounds greak | 00:40 |
| Ubulette | [reed], who should I put for review ? | 00:41 |
| asac | benjamin | 00:42 |
| * asac gone | 00:45 | |
| Ubulette | me too | 00:45 |
| Ubulette | 'night | 00:45 |
| asac | night | 00:47 |
| asac | hi | 08:13 |
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| asac | [reed]: there? | 08:38 |
| asac | how did your R61 notebook work out ... did you manage to install ubuntu? | 08:38 |
| asac | err i mean X61 | 08:40 |
| [reed] | asac: yep | 08:42 |
| [reed] | I got it working off the usb key | 08:42 |
| asac | great | 08:42 |
| asac | [reed]: and are you happy in general? | 08:42 |
| [reed] | still haven't installed winblowz yet for my school work | 08:42 |
| [reed] | well, I am having problems with the network card | 08:42 |
| asac | hehe | 08:42 |
| asac | wireless? | 08:42 |
| [reed] | basically, if I change locations, I literally have to restart the laptop for the card to connect again | 08:43 |
| [reed] | and then it'll work for as long as I'm still connected | 08:43 |
| asac | oh | 08:43 |
| asac | wireless? | 08:43 |
| [reed] | probably a wifi driver issue | 08:43 |
| [reed] | yeah | 08:43 |
| asac | gutsy? | 08:43 |
| [reed] | yes | 08:43 |
| [reed] | dmesg shows some stuff, but I just haven't taken the time to debug it yet | 08:44 |
| [reed] | since it's easy to restart, really | 08:44 |
| asac | yeah ... you need to unload the ipw3945 module and kill the ipw3945d regulatory daemon i guess | 08:44 |
| [reed] | yes, so, why do I have to do that? :) | 08:44 |
| asac | as you said its a driver issue. the old driver is pretty fragile because of the user space daemon | 08:45 |
| asac | in hardy we have now the new driver iwl3945 | 08:45 |
| asac | by default | 08:45 |
| asac | you can use that in gutsy as well afaik | 08:46 |
| [reed] | I might just try upgrading to hardy | 08:46 |
| asac | if you blacklist ipw3945 and modprobe iwl3945 | 08:46 |
| [reed] | since it is my play laptop | 08:46 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 08:46 |
| asac | upgrading is better ... iwl3945 is under heavy development so the hardy version should be well ahead of the gutsy one | 08:47 |
| [reed] | how easy is it to upgrade to hardy from gutsy? | 08:47 |
| asac | should be simple | 08:48 |
| [reed] | update-manager -d | 08:48 |
| [reed] | hmm | 08:48 |
| asac | yeah | 08:48 |
| [reed] | maybe I'll try that now | 08:48 |
| asac | ;) | 08:48 |
| asac | cool | 08:48 |
| asac | i am here to hold your hands ;) | 08:48 |
| [reed] | that command just throws a python exception and dies | 08:51 |
| [reed] | great user experience! | 08:51 |
| asac | i never used update-manager to do that | 08:51 |
| asac | :) | 08:51 |
| asac | i just replace gutsy with hardy in /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:51 |
| asac | and do apt-get update | 08:51 |
| asac | apt-get dist-upgrade | 08:51 |
| [reed] | I got it going finally | 08:52 |
| [reed] | it's downloading packages | 08:52 |
| asac | [reed]: can you give me the python exception? | 08:52 |
| [reed] | 1111 packages | 08:52 |
| asac | yeah | 08:52 |
| asac | better do an apt-get clean before | 08:52 |
| asac | so your /var/ cache is freend (in case you don't have much space left) | 08:53 |
| [reed] | 104GB free | 08:53 |
| [reed] | I don't think that's a problem | 08:53 |
| [reed] | :) | 08:53 |
| asac | ok ;) | 08:54 |
| [reed] | 19 min. remaining | 08:59 |
| [reed] | pulling at about 459kb/s over wifi | 08:59 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 09:03 |
| asac | [reed]: what state to choose if a bug is not reproducible anymore anymore? WORKSFORME? | 09:11 |
| [reed] | yes | 09:11 |
| [reed] | and comment :) | 09:11 |
| [reed] | saying that | 09:11 |
| asac | debian bug 467560 | 09:16 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 467560 in iceape-mailnews "iceape-mailnews: iceape crashes immediately after sending a mail" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/467560 | 09:16 |
| [reed] | "About 1 minutes remaining" :( | 09:18 |
| [reed] | "About 1 minutes remaining" :( | 09:18 |
| [reed] | there, underlined | 09:18 |
| asac | where are you stuck? | 09:20 |
| [reed] | no, it's grammatically incorrect | 09:21 |
| [reed] | :p | 09:21 |
| [reed] | it's installing now | 09:21 |
| [reed] | asac: are you going to take the metacity fix downstream? | 09:24 |
| [reed] | (seen caillon's blog?) | 09:24 |
| asac | huh | 09:35 |
| asac | no :) | 09:35 |
| asac | still catching up on weekend email | 09:35 |
| asac | bug 183736 | 09:35 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 183736 in firefox-3.0 "On first launch of firefox-3.0, some HTTP authentication dialogs are missing text" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183736 | 09:35 |
| asac | [reed]: ok i will patch that for metacity then | 09:41 |
| asac | mozilla bug #390391 | 09:44 |
| [reed] | I can't see that bug | 09:47 |
| [reed] | :( | 09:47 |
| [reed] | cc me? | 09:47 |
| asac | hehe :) ... well i was too dump and wanted to get an url ;) ... of course forgot about the fact that thats closed up | 09:48 |
| asac | wasn't it timeless who committed unreviewed patches? | 09:55 |
| [reed] | yep | 09:55 |
| [reed] | well | 09:55 |
| [reed] | it was one of the Nokia guys | 09:55 |
| [reed] | but it was timeless's fault it got on trunk | 09:56 |
| asac | k | 09:56 |
| [reed] | so | 09:56 |
| [reed] | I'm playing with hardy | 09:56 |
| [reed] | what should I play with? | 09:56 |
| asac | so the upgrade worked? | 09:56 |
| [reed] | yep | 09:57 |
| asac | see if you wifi issueis fixed :) | 09:57 |
| [reed] | Tracker has a typo | 10:04 |
| [reed] | "serveral minutes" | 10:04 |
| [reed] | it popped up a dialog | 10:04 |
| [reed] | talking about combining indexes | 10:04 |
| [reed] | with that typo | 10:05 |
| [reed] | best way to report that? | 10:05 |
| asac | bug against tracker | 10:09 |
| asac | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tracker/+filebug | 10:09 |
| [reed] | so, apt-get build-dep firefox-3.0 made me install autoconf2.13... that's fine, but it diverted the normal autoconf to another name | 10:11 |
| [reed] | how do I get rid of the divertion? | 10:11 |
| [reed] | also, lp 176484 is a dupe of lp 188439 | 10:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 176484 in tracker "Spelling mistake" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176484 | 10:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 188439 in tracker "[hardy] tracker-search-tool: misspelling in popup notification" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188439 | 10:13 |
| asac | [reed]: you can use dpkg-divert i guess | 10:15 |
| asac | but i usually don't do that | 10:17 |
| [reed] | what do you do? | 10:17 |
| asac | i run autocon2.50 :) | 10:18 |
| asac | and if you are in maintainer mode it usually just works | 10:19 |
| asac | afaik the diverted autoconf will be smart to figure out which version to use | 10:20 |
| [reed] | hmm | 10:23 |
| [reed] | you allow anybody to mark bugs as duplicates and such? | 10:23 |
| asac | yes duplicates are ok | 10:23 |
| asac | you cannot bump importance i guess | 10:24 |
| [reed] | oh | 10:28 |
| [reed] | looks like my wifi driver is iwl4965 | 10:28 |
| asac | yeah | 10:30 |
| asac | that makes tsense then | 10:30 |
| asac | no old driver exists for 4965 ... so gutsy driver can be shaky | 10:30 |
| asac | should be better i guess | 10:30 |
| asac | carlos: so will the filename be .../en_US/firefox.po ? | 10:32 |
| carlos | asac: the exported one? | 10:32 |
| asac | yes | 10:32 |
| carlos | no, it will be firefox/es.po | 10:33 |
| asac | ah ok | 10:33 |
| carlos | and so on for the other languages | 10:33 |
| asac | carlos: can you give me a complete path? | 10:33 |
| carlos | asac: that part is up to you | 10:33 |
| carlos | I think you agreed with martin pitt something like | 10:33 |
| carlos | xpi/firefox/es.po | 10:33 |
| carlos | is that correct? | 10:33 |
| asac | we just chatted where the mozilla builds should put the normalized en-US.xpi ... we didn't talk about where the PO files will end up | 10:34 |
| asac | i am fine with that | 10:34 |
| asac | carlos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/LaunchpadTranslationSupport#preview ... does that make sense (still incomplete) | 10:49 |
| carlos | let me check... | 10:49 |
| carlos | asac: oh, there is a change I need to discuss with you | 10:50 |
| asac | go ahead | 10:50 |
| carlos | asac: the id will not be in msgctx but in the '#: ' line | 10:51 |
| carlos | at the end of the file location where we got that message from | 10:51 |
| asac | can you update the example? | 10:51 |
| asac | ok | 10:51 |
| carlos | sure | 10:51 |
| carlos | asac: updated | 10:54 |
| asac | carlos: hmm ... so will you use the full path to identify the translations? | 10:55 |
| carlos | well, that information is not used by us at all | 10:56 |
| carlos | is just the way we export it | 10:56 |
| asac | ok great | 10:56 |
| carlos | it makes more sense to do it in that way, instead of using msgctxt | 10:56 |
| asac | so if i import en-US.xpi/test.jar!some/path/file.dtd(translatable.key) | 10:57 |
| carlos | so if it fits your use case, that's better | 10:57 |
| asac | i can also import a translation that has de-DE.xpi/chrome/de.jar!some/file.dtd(translatable.key) ? | 10:57 |
| asac | carlos: (just to be sure) | 10:59 |
| carlos | yes | 10:59 |
| asac | cool | 11:00 |
| asac | carlos: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/test.translations.tar.gz | 11:14 |
| asac | please take a look | 11:14 |
| asac | this is more or less what will happen | 11:14 |
| asac | firefox/ ha en-US.xpi with just those keys that firefox (without xulrunner) needs | 11:14 |
| asac | by de.xpi has firefox+xulrunner | 11:15 |
| asac | so in xulrunner/ there is only one .xpi | 11:15 |
| asac | is that good enough? | 11:16 |
| asac | carlos: i just reconnected ... did you get the test url? | 11:21 |
| asac_ | carlos: got what i said above? | 11:30 |
| asac_ | 12:14 < asac> carlos: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/test.translations.tar.gz | 11:30 |
| asac_ | 12:14 < asac> please take a look | 11:30 |
| asac_ | 12:14 -!- Channel #ubuntu-mozillateam created Wed Jan 10 09:49:30 2007 | 11:30 |
| asac_ | 12:14 < asac> this is more or less what will happen | 11:30 |
| asac_ | 12:14 < asac> firefox/ ha en-US.xpi with just those keys that firefox (without xulrunner) needs | 11:31 |
| asac_ | 12:14 < asac> by de.xpi has firefox+xulrunner | 11:31 |
| asac_ | 12:15 < asac> so in xulrunner/ there is only one .xpi | 11:31 |
| asac_ | 12:16 -!- Irssi: Join to #ubuntu-mozillateam was synced in 133 secs | 11:31 |
| asac_ | 12:16 < asac> is that good enough? | 11:31 |
| asac_ | 12:21 < asac> carlos: i just reconnected ... did you get the test url? | 11:31 |
| carlos | ok, just give me 15 minutes to finish something and I will take a look, ok? | 11:31 |
| asac_ | sure | 11:31 |
| asac_ | just wasn't sure what you got because you reconnected and i reconnected as well ;) | 11:31 |
| asac__ | damn connection | 11:39 |
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| carlos | asac: actually, is better if you copy the translations into xulrunner directory | 12:09 |
| asac | carlos: why? that would happen manually anyways | 12:39 |
| carlos | asac: manually? | 12:40 |
| carlos | asac: if you copy the translations, it can be autoapproved automatically and I don't need to copy it by hand... | 12:40 |
| asac | carlos: we don't have the translations | 12:42 |
| asac | i just put that in that tarball for your convenience right now | 12:42 |
| asac | later we have to copy them from ftpü | 12:42 |
| asac | (e.g. thy are not in the source tree) | 12:43 |
| asac | we can write an automization for that though | 12:43 |
| carlos | ok, so you will not provide any translation | 12:43 |
| asac | not for the core apps | 12:43 |
| carlos | but we should use what we discussed a while ago, direct fetch from mozilla's ftp server | 12:43 |
| asac | for extensions it might happen | 12:43 |
| carlos | ok, that's fine | 12:43 |
| asac | yeah ... lets get the general process right | 12:44 |
| carlos | I was not sure whether that still applies here | 12:44 |
| asac | auto synching won'tbe hard | 12:44 |
| carlos | I know | 12:44 |
| asac | ok :) | 12:44 |
| asac | carlos: anyway ... from our lats discussion i thought that we import the translation twice: e.g. 1. xulrunner + 2. firefox | 12:45 |
| asac | is that still okay? | 12:45 |
| carlos | yeah | 12:45 |
| asac | ok great | 12:45 |
| carlos | is just that I was not sure whether the translation was coming from your packages or direct ftp download | 12:45 |
| asac | okay | 12:45 |
| asac | maybe at some point i can produce them from source ... but not for hardy | 12:46 |
| carlos | indeed | 12:46 |
| asac | carlos: you think we could do a test upload of those .xpis to your local system today? | 13:10 |
| carlos | I hope it, yes | 13:10 |
| asac | (and maybe even export the .po so we can start writing the .po -> .xpi script? | 13:10 |
| asac | ) | 13:10 |
| asac | cool | 13:10 |
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| * armin76 looks at asac | 14:01 | |
| armin76 | you didn't pay? :P | 14:01 |
| asac | armin76: what? | 14:01 |
| armin76 | your conn sucks :P | 14:01 |
| asac | hehe | 14:01 |
| armin76 | router running ubuntu? :P | 14:02 |
| asac | unfortunately money is not the issue here | 14:02 |
| asac | (well except if you consider 2000 EUR per month a viable optoin) | 14:02 |
| asac | carlos: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=91920&package_id=97082 | 15:34 |
| asac | is that the tool that required a special .po file syntax? | 15:34 |
| asac__ | carlos: you wrote anything (internet connection is flaky) | 16:03 |
| asac__ | ? | 16:03 |
| armin76 | nope | 16:07 |
| asac__ | thanks | 16:07 |
| carlos | asac__: no, sorry, I didn't answer yet | 16:08 |
| carlos | asac__: that's the tool we use for OO.org | 16:08 |
| asac__ | carlos: k ... but that moz2po didn't work because of special po file requirements? | 16:08 |
| carlos | and which produces an slightly different .po file format that we produce | 16:08 |
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| carlos | asac__: we were not able to do the full process | 16:08 |
| carlos | to move from xpi to .po file and back to xpi | 16:09 |
| asac | ok | 16:09 |
| carlos | in an easy and scriptable way | 16:09 |
| carlos | we do it for oo.org, though | 16:09 |
| carlos | that's why we are not using it for Mozilla applications | 16:09 |
| asac_ | sorry ... off again | 16:22 |
| asac_ | carlos: if you manage to export the .po for the xpis i gave you please send them by mail | 16:22 |
| asac_ | i will do something else for the next hours now ... connection is too bad | 16:23 |
| asac_ | be back in a few hours | 16:23 |
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| carlos | asac: I'm not sure whether I would be able to get them ready today, too many things running at the same time... | 16:52 |
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| Ubulette | hi | 19:08 |
| asac | hi | 19:10 |
| Ubulette | asac, any news about cairo ? | 19:10 |
| asac | let me ask | 19:14 |
| asac | hmm seb is off | 19:15 |
| Ubulette | i've sent you an email earlier today | 19:15 |
| asac | i know ... and i had it on my list ;) | 19:16 |
| asac | asked lool for now | 19:17 |
| Ubulette | k | 19:25 |
| asac | carlos_: ok. | 19:27 |
| armin76 | what's up with cairo? :) | 19:28 |
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