[05:19] <johnny_> ugghz..
[05:19] <johnny_> how do you get around single user mode asking for a root password for maintenence?
[05:19] <johnny_> considering i don't recall setting one..
[05:19] <kgoetz> it should only ask if theres one set
[05:20] <kgoetz> well, tahts how it used to work
[05:20] <johnny_> hmm.. maybe it happened before i got here
[05:20] <johnny_> aha..
[05:21] <johnny_> hmm.. bad x driver.. it's using up 100% cpu..
[05:23] <johnny_> switched video cards.. and now it doesn't wanna start up :(
[05:23] <johnny_> really tho.. i just wanna disable x from starting..
[05:25] <kgoetz> johnny_: use update-rc.d
[07:31] <stgraber> ogra: ping (Edubuntu Add-on testcases)
[07:31] <stgraber> ogra_cmpc: ^^
[08:51] <stgraber> ogra_cmpc: ping
[08:52] <ogra_cmpc> hey
[08:52] <ogra_cmpc> hmm, test cases
[08:52] <stgraber> I'm working on the testcases list for alpha-6, beta, rc and final
[08:52] <ogra_cmpc> i only actually see two ...
[08:52] <stgraber> we currently have g-a-i and WinFOSS for the add-on
[08:52] <ogra_cmpc> install the edubuntu-desktop paqckage from g-a-i with or without network
[08:53] <ogra_cmpc> checking that a reboot notification shows up might mqake sense
[08:53] <ogra_cmpc> the latest -artwork package has that so people log in newly at least
[08:54] <ogra_cmpc> beyond that i see no special cases
[08:54] <stgraber> ok, so just an "Install Edubuntu desktop" testcase with link to a wikipage with the compolete testcase
[08:54] <stgraber> we don't have any Windows stuff on it right ?
[08:54] <ogra_cmpc> we have
[08:54] <ogra_cmpc> and riched wanted to keep it
[08:54] <ogra_cmpc> but i dont have *any* win around here
[08:54] <ogra_cmpc> not even a CD beyond w98
[08:57] <stgraber> :)
[08:57] <stgraber> do we have the old WinFOSS or some newer stuff on the CD ?
[08:57] <ogra_cmpc> i edont think anyone maintains it
[08:57] <ogra_cmpc> so its still the same old versions
[08:57] <stgraber> I know that other CDs now have some kind of Wubi+WinFOSS stuff (haven't checked that myself though)
[08:57] <ogra_cmpc> imho we could drop it
[08:58] <ogra_cmpc> but rich was clear that he wants to keep it
[08:58] <ogra_cmpc> (and we have enough space to aste atm)
[08:58] <stgraber> ok, I'll download one of the CD and see what we have there as I need to link the testcase to the right wikipage
[09:00]  * stgraber is off for a break
[12:28] <stgraber> ogra_cmpc: still around ?
[12:28] <stgraber> ogra: ^^
[12:29] <stgraber> I know I'm asking always the same question, but we will only have the Addon CD and will drop *all* of the others right ?
[12:29] <stgraber> so Edubuntu desktop will also disappear and we won't even have a LiveCD for demo purpose ?
[12:31] <ogra> i cant say yes to the latter yet
[12:31] <ogra> rich wants a demo CD
[12:31] <ogra> i dont think i can do that technically easy
[12:32] <stgraber> well, we will come back to the space problem then ...
[12:32] <ogra> since we'll break on size here
[12:32] <ogra> we wont, it simply wont fit
[12:32] <ogra> edubuntu-desktop depends on ubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <ogra> that means we'll add up to the ubuntu CD *in any case*
[12:33] <ogra> and since that will be as close to the edge as possible there is no romm for even adding a wallpaper
[12:34] <stgraber> ok, that's what I thought (having an Edubuntu demo CD with no educational software doesn't make any sense), thanks for the answer
[12:35] <ogra> but there was no final word yet
[12:36] <ogra> i just can point out the technical limitation here
[12:36] <stgraber> so I'll drop Edubuntu desktop from the tracker, I still can add it back afterwards
[12:36] <ogra> probably rich says we can go with 800M media since its a demo only version and people have to care themselves or so
[12:36] <ogra> right
[12:36] <stgraber> ogra: heno sent you and Richard a mail about WinFOSS
[12:37] <ogra> no point in testing oversized crap anyway
[12:37] <stgraber> basically WinFOSS isn't maintained anymore
[12:37] <ogra> yes, just saw it
[12:37] <ogra> i'm fine with dropping it
[14:30] <pablo7> just installed gutsy to my secondary hard drive this morning.
[14:31] <pablo7> was wondering if someone could help me configure /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf manually.
[19:56] <some_dude> I got some dhcpd.conf issues keeping me from doing anetwork boot
[20:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> some_dude, orly?
[20:37] <LaserJock> ogra_cmpc: sorry if you already answered the other day, but did you get my emails to pitti?
[20:39] <ogra_cmpc> yes, saw them
[20:39] <ogra_cmpc> we only touched the topic for two sentences on the weekend
[20:41] <LaserJock> k
[20:41] <LaserJock> well I haven't heard anything from the squeak maintainer for some time
[20:41] <LaserJock> I'm afraid if Ubuntu Archive doesn't take the packages as-is they won't make it
[20:41] <ogra_cmpc> right
[20:42] <LaserJock> I can do native -> non-native changes
[20:42] <ogra_cmpc> well, he wanted some smaller changes that look feasable
[20:42] <LaserJock> although by now I've completely destroyed upstreams packaging :-)
[20:42] <ogra_cmpc> like copying the licenses around etc
[20:42] <LaserJock> yeah
[20:42] <ogra_cmpc> thats no biggie
[20:42] <LaserJock> the real problem is with the squeak package
[20:42] <LaserJock> which makes the others pointless
[20:43] <ogra_cmpc> i'm not near my mail atm ... grmbl
[20:43] <LaserJock> I can't do much about GPL violations :-)
[20:44] <ogra_cmpc> i dont see where that violation should suddenly come from
[20:44] <LaserJock> it's not sudden I can't imagine
[20:44] <LaserJock> but Ubuntu Archive seems to look a lot more carefully than in the old days
[20:44] <ogra_cmpc> well, it was good enough for elmo
[20:45] <ogra_cmpc> with the old package
[20:45] <LaserJock> there's some PDFs
[20:45] <ogra_cmpc> elmo looked very careful and deeply
[20:45] <LaserJock> also some stuff that looks to be perhaps binary, but no source
[20:45] <ogra_cmpc> and firest even rejected it
[20:45] <ogra_cmpc> sabdfl pushed it in
[20:45] <LaserJock> well
[20:45] <LaserJock> we're claiming that it's GPL
[20:46] <LaserJock> which I'm not so sure we should
[20:46] <ogra_cmpc> hmm
[20:46] <LaserJock> but there's *3* different files for the copyright/license and it's difficult to know which one is right
[20:46] <ogra_cmpc> one oly applies to fonts iirc
[20:46] <LaserJock> I'm told that the actual squeak VM is GPL, but squeak images, etc. are the squeak/apple license
[20:47] <ogra_cmpc> right
[20:47] <ogra_cmpc> thats what i was told as well
[20:47] <LaserJock> but there's also a whole other directory that's got various plugins, etc.
[20:47] <ogra_cmpc> and i think thats also outlined on teh squeak site
[20:48] <LaserJock> and I think a lot of them have individual README files
[20:48] <ogra_cmpc> sigh
[20:48] <LaserJock> yeah
[20:48] <ogra_cmpc> i'm way to hogged with classmate else i'd jump on it :(
[20:48] <LaserJock> this idea of syncing with the squeak guys was nice in theory
[20:48] <ogra_cmpc> hrm, yeah
[20:48] <LaserJock> but I've spent hours and hours already redoing their packaging
[20:49] <LaserJock> I've got about 60KB of debdiffs already
[20:49] <LaserJock> and that's just the little packaging stuff
[20:49] <ogra_cmpc> phew
[20:49] <ogra_cmpc> how about just improving our current package
[20:49] <ogra_cmpc> and adding teh new stuff
[20:50] <LaserJock> well, I do like their packages
[20:50] <ogra_cmpc> that wont need to go past u-a
[20:50] <LaserJock> hmm
[20:50] <LaserJock> I can take their stuff, and rename the packages so that it fits
[20:50] <ogra_cmpc> and make it appear like an update to our
[20:50] <ogra_cmpc> s
[20:51] <LaserJock> arrgg, I gotta run and teach
[20:51] <ogra_cmpc> ciao
[20:51] <LaserJock> yes, since the actual squeak stuff is upstream
[20:51] <LaserJock> and not from those guys specifically
[20:51] <ogra_cmpc> right
[20:51] <LaserJock> I'll give it some thought and see how easy it'd be
[20:51] <ogra_cmpc> i dont think we'll have a meeting tomorrow btw
[20:51] <LaserJock> k
[20:52] <ogra_cmpc> i have an immovable appointment
[20:52] <LaserJock> I probably won't have time :/
[20:52] <ogra_cmpc> qand rich vqanished
[20:52] <ogra_cmpc> no idea whats up with him
[23:55] <krsnendu> I am trying to install smbldap as a pdc on Hardy. Anyone know any tricks? It doesn't seem to work out of the box.
[23:59] <krsnendu> I used the latest version of smbldap installer