ScottKMaybe later tonight if it doesn't take long to fix displayconfig on my Hardy box.00:00
nixternaloh, you will be there forever00:01
nixternalneed someone else to get revuing then00:01
nixternalwhen doing svn history on trunk/KDE, don't forget the |less feature :)00:02
nixternalit can seriously crash a system00:02
nixternalthat is information overload00:02
nixternalmy new pet pieve:  "Got a link?" or anything similar on something like the new NiN Ghosts release00:05
nixternalI am like, GOOGLE DAMNIT!00:05
nixternaljust open up your browser, even if it goes to a 403 error window, you should find a link for such an event since it was posted everywhere today00:05
nixternalI purchased the album, and now all of these people keep asking me to rip it for them00:06
nixternalpay the $5 on amazon and support the freedom!00:06
nixternalI will not rip it and pass it around for at least 2 more weeks..people want it, they can shell out $5 right?00:07
gribeluhow's it going with 4.0.2 packaging?00:15
Riddellbuilding away00:17
Riddellnixternal: going to upload extragear?00:17
gribeluoh happy day00:17
Riddellno stdin for backports :(00:17
nixternalRiddell: yes00:18
nixternalall are done, but I need a revu on libksane00:18
Riddellnixternal: soname doesn't match package name?00:27
seelenixternal: i bought the flac but can't download it because their servers went boom00:34
* seele is a little upset about that00:34
yuriyi guess i'll wait a few days then00:34
yuriyi never got around to buying/downloading radiohead either00:34
* Jucato waves to seele00:34
* seele waves back00:35
seeleah, i like NIN much more than radiohead00:36
seelei mean, radiohead is still good and all..00:36
yuriyi mean, they were also offering their new album for free with an option to pay. i never got around to checking it out or seeing if it's freely licensed though00:37
nixternalRiddell: it seems it doesn't00:44
nixternalSONAME      libksane.so.000:45
nixternaleasy fix00:45
gribelui just had to dist-upgrade .. now kbuildsycoca crashes and kde4 never starts. Some of the 4.0.2 packages are live :)00:45
Riddellnixternal: advocated, am off to bed00:46
nixternals/1/0 correct?00:46
Jucatogood night Riddell00:46
Riddellnixternal: yes00:48
nixternalRiddell: libksane uploaded - sitting in new00:53
HobbseeDebian bug 46903900:53
ubotuDebian bug 469039 in ftp.debian.org "RM: linda -- RoM; deprecated" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/46903900:53
Jucatomoin Hobbsee!00:53
Hobbseehey Jucato!00:54
nixternalExtragear 4.0.2 uploaded00:56
gribeluis there a place where i can see the progress of a new/updated package being worked on? Like when the first attempt of a new version has been proposed, when it was advocated, when it was built?01:42
nosrednaekimnixternal» did R!ddell get back if kubuntu is doing the SoC?02:23
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DaSkreechShould someone tell the Web team that the links on Brainstorm are horribly broken?03:20
DaSkreechand that anything that deals with KDE probably shouldn't be thrown under "other" ?03:20
nosrednaekimthat what KDE is to them03:22
DaSkreechThey have multiple suggestions to give more support to KDE. Should be fun to see if they merge the votes or jsut delete them03:24
ScottKDaSkreech: According to all the blog PR they spent months working on Brainstorm, so I'm sure they've got it all figured out.04:48
DaSkreechScottK: doesn't help the navigation links are screwed up04:48
* ScottK got signed up with the developer tag for it. Dunno what fun I'll have with that yet.04:48
DaSkreechthough I guess if you say so thats how they want it04:49
nixternalDaSkreech: what should it be thrown under? I am a mod and a dev on there now...muhahahahaha04:49
nixternalI will erase all of the Ubuntu ones :p04:49
DaSkreechWell if it's on KDE look and feel how about having it under Look and feel?04:49
ScottKDaSkreech: I was poking a little fun at how amaturish the rollout was.  Sorry.04:49
nixternalScottK: it gives you 2 ubuntu logos, a tag that says developer, and bragging rights I guess :)04:49
nixternalI say leave it under 'other' and see how many people read into it and say 'see, 2nd class citizens'04:50
DaSkreechScottK: I logged in yesterday and like near 1/2 of the newest ideas were all about how to make brainstorm better04:50
nixternalor, I can make a topic called '2nd class citizen' :p04:50
ScottKI like it how I look at my summary page and it says, "has no ideas".04:50
DaSkreechnixternal: Well technically a 'other" has the most votes right now04:50
nixternalI have yet to see a killer idea though..has anyone else?04:51
ScottKOf course not.04:51
ScottKWe don't lack ability to think up good ideas.  The shortfalls are all in implementation.04:52
DaSkreechThe distribute powered by Ubuntu stickers :)04:52
nixternalhahaha, if he's country I'll kiss your ass04:53
ScottKDid many people experience displayconfig breakage after recent xorg updates?05:17
seregafonts in adept are awesome05:17
ScottKI updated today for the first time in several days and it's dead for me now.05:18
* nixternal checks out displayconfig05:19
seregaScottK: how can I test it to help you?05:19
nixternalScottK: it is working for me, I just fired it up in KDE 405:19
ScottKserega: Are you running KDE3 or 4?05:20
DaSkreechFew more days till KDE4 I guess05:20
nixternalsame goes for KDE 305:20
nixternalso it is working fine here05:20
seregaScottK: KDE305:20
DaSkreechnixternal: ping when you are done05:20
nixternalthe other day it was doing that python crap missing05:20
nixternalDaSkreech: done what?05:20
ScottKserega: Hardy?05:20
nixternalI am always done :p05:20
DaSkreechThe displayconfig test05:20
nixternalbeen done05:20
nixternalI just had to make sure it was still working05:20
seregaScottK: yes. I got some exceptions05:20
ScottKnixternal: I fixed the python crap problem.05:21
nixternalScottK: what updates did you pull through?05:21
* serega goes to pastebin05:21
ScottKserega: Would you please pastebin your error?05:21
nixternalScottK: I just installed python2.5-dev I think to get the file I needed for it to work05:21
ScottKnixternal: Yep.  I added that to the depends for libpythonize005:21
nixternalnixternal@ShakaDoobie:~$ displayconfig05:21
nixternalopen /dev/mem: Permission denied05:21
nixternalVESA BIOS Extensions not detected.05:21
ScottKThat's the work around for it linking to the wrong .so file.05:21
nixternalthat's what I got, but I didn't run it with root though05:22
ScottKIf you didn't crash, you're running ahead of me.05:22
nixternalya, no crash05:22
seregaScottK: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/92731405:22
nixternalScottK: when you get a FTBFS because one of the packages it depends on hasn't been updated yet, do the buildds take care of that, or do I have to upload again?05:23
nixternalSammy Hagar song from his 1013 album05:24
ScottKserega: I see two things there: 1. an apport bug that I'm also experiencing.  2.  A different displayconfig problem then I'm having.05:24
ScottKserega: Please go look and see if there's an existing displayconfig bug with a traceback that looks something like that.05:24
seregaScottK: feel free to bother me to find them out05:24
seregaScottK: I have near 30 min at home(Hardy) now, then I will be at home only after 19:00UTC05:25
* serega goes to launchpad05:26
ScottKserega: Also please go to Bug #198183 and confirm it.  You're having the same problem.05:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198183 in apport "Apport dies when it tries to catch displayconfig bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19818305:27
seregaScottK: done05:29
DaSkreechnixternal: Think we should have a wiki script for weekly 4.1 builds ?05:30
nixternalif you want to maintain it and setup a ppa for it05:31
nixternalthat is the nice thing about Foresight, all we do is go into rBuilder and say 'update', and in a couple of hours, we have a new trunk build05:32
DaSkreechWell Suse has a nice build farm as well05:34
DaSkreechI would expect in about 2 years the official ppas would do the same05:34
ScottKOf course it builds RPMs for Ubuntu that may collide in namespace with official packages.05:35
nixternal*that may collide* or *do collide*05:37
nixternalI haven't been able to use one of their debs or rpms yet05:37
ScottKTo be honest I didn't have the guts to actually install one, but they provide packages that are also in the official repositories.05:46
DaSkreech!info kblogger hardy05:58
ubotuPackage kblogger does not exist in hardy05:58
DaSkreech!info yakuake hardy06:12
ubotuyakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.1-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 176 kB, installed size 1100 kB06:12
DaSkreechnixternal: ping06:14
DaSkreechwhat's the kubuntu kde4 package?06:15
DaSkreechname of06:15
DaSkreechand is it on Universe or a PPA?06:18
DaSkreechfinally does it ship kde3 apps?06:19
DaSkreechactaully yeah the release notes says it does06:20
DaSkreech!info kde406:20
ubotuPackage kde4 does not exist in gutsy06:20
DaSkreech!info kde4 hardy06:20
ubotukde4 (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB06:20
DaSkreech!info koffice-kde4 hardy06:22
ubotukoffice-kde4 (source: koffice2): KDE Office Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1: (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB06:22
DaSkreech!info kde4-core hardy06:23
ubotukde4-core (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 core modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB06:23
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Tonio_Riddell: hi09:04
Tonio_Riddell: I was too busy to connect last week, but I'll have a bunch of days for kubuntu starting on friday09:04
Tonio_Riddell: I hope to finish with my todo list at time for the release day09:04
_StefanS_hey Tonio_09:51
Tonio__StefanS_: hi !09:51
Tonio__StefanS_: got your email, will fix the package today09:52
_StefanS_Tonio_: sweet09:52
_StefanS_Tonio_: the preview graphic in the kcm module should be changed too, but I didn't have the energy to do that last night09:53
Tonio__StefanS_: are the images in the mail you sent me ? then I also can do it09:55
_StefanS_yes they are09:56
_StefanS_I think its the close image09:56
Tonio_Riddell: looks like the buildd has been changed to consider missing files :10:01
Tonio_dh_install: debian/tmp/usr/share/autostart/skim.desktop exists in debian/tmp/ but is not installed to anywhere10:01
Tonio_Riddell: I'll do it in rules, we don't wan't skim to autostart for everyone, as that was discussed last year ;)10:05
Riddellso, no stdin10:24
Riddellvolunteers needed for 4.0.2 backports10:24
emonkeyvolunteers which are able to package? emonkey unfortunately can't do that10:33
emonkeyTesting should be possible10:36
emonkey\sh, btw nice that you'll be in our flat in Berlin again. :)10:36
\shemonkey: :)10:50
buzalsa devs must hate me11:03
buzwith every update, something else breaks11:03
buzand in 2.6.24-11 i dont have any sound11:04
_StefanS_Riddell: what stuff needed to be backported?11:15
Riddell_StefanS_: all of 4.0.211:17
_StefanS_Riddell: oh my, are we heading for 4.0.2 in hardy?11:18
_StefanS_Riddell: that would be seriously cool11:18
Riddell_StefanS_: want to backport it to gutsy?11:18
nareshovI'd like to help too11:18
nareshovwe do apt-get source, change versions a bit and repackage?11:19
Riddelldch -i     set version to ~gutsy1~ppa111:19
Riddelldebuild, make sure at least that the build-deps are satisfiable11:20
Riddellthrow into PPA, to which I can give you access11:20
Riddellsee what breaks and fix it :)11:20
nareshovI'm on gutsy, I'll need the deb-src lines of hardy, right?11:20
_StefanS_Riddell: err well I dont have any gutsy machines running. Is 4.0.2 is in hardy now?11:21
Riddell_StefanS_: yes11:21
Riddell_StefanS_: you can use a chroot11:21
_StefanS_Riddell: uhm, basically we just need to change a few lines and repackage it, no new code as such?11:23
Riddell_StefanS_: yes11:23
_StefanS_Riddell: I need some help regarding the chroot'ed gutsy, is there a wiki/guide somewhere?11:23
Riddell_StefanS_: mkdir gutsy; debootstrap --variant=buildd gutsy gutsy; sudo chroot gutsy11:24
Riddellgrab a cup of tea..11:24
_StefanS_guess its a good candidate for my new server.11:24
_StefanS_and yes, i just bought more hardware :D11:24
nareshovRiddell: what packages do I start with?11:25
Riddellnareshov: could you start on kde4libs kdepimlibs kdebase-runtime kdebase-kde4 kdebase-workspace11:25
_StefanS_Riddell: what should i start with?11:26
Riddell_StefanS_: lets go alphabetically  kdeaccessibility-kde4 kdeadmin-kde4 kdeartwork-kde4 kdeedu-kde4 kdegames-kde411:27
Riddell_StefanS_: you will need to temporarily change the kdelibs build-deps of those from 4.0.2 to 4.0.1 and add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main" to the chroot's sources.list11:28
Riddellbut make sure to change it back to 4.0.2 before building the source package and uploading11:29
Riddell_StefanS_, nareshov: what are your launchpad usernames?11:29
Riddellclever :)11:29
_StefanS_Riddell: screemo11:29
Riddellok, I've added you both to ~kubuntu-members-kde411:30
ryanakcaHas / will K3B been ported to KDE4 yet? *wonders if it needs packaging*11:32
Riddellwhen you've changed the version number, and checked that it builds as far as the configuration and starting to compile build and sign the source packages and upload to that PPA (https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart)11:33
_StefanS_ryanakca: is it even usuable on kde4 yet*?11:34
Riddellthere's no kde 4 version11:34
Riddellnareshov: you'll need a gpg key in launchpad11:34
nareshovI'll upload11:35
Riddell_StefanS_: you'll need to copy your ~/.gnupg dir to the chroot /home/you/11:35
_StefanS_Riddell: wasnt he porting it?11:35
Riddell_StefanS_: I hope so but there's no release11:35
ryanakca_StefanS_: hmmm... K3B on KDE4 complains it can't find a CD drive, but doesn't under KDE3. *adds it to his TODO*11:35
_StefanS_Riddell: I seem to be missing alot of packages11:38
_StefanS_Riddell: should I install kubuntu-desktop11:38
Riddell_StefanS_: a chroot does start with a minimum of packages11:42
_StefanS_Riddell: I need /dev and /proc as well.. fixing it now.11:42
Riddellapt-get install less wget emacs build-essential devscripts cdbs pbuilder  is a good start11:42
Riddell_StefanS_: you do?11:43
_StefanS_Riddell: yep stuff like cupsys and so on need it, even though I will not use it11:43
Riddellwhy do you need cupsys?11:43
Riddellyou can   mount -t none -o bind /dev gutsy/dev11:44
Riddell(from outside the chroot)11:44
_StefanS_yep, I just did that11:46
_StefanS_Riddell: works now.11:47
nareshovcrap, firegpg isn't working for me (getting "Unkown Error")11:49
Riddellwhat's firegpg?11:51
nareshovfirefox extension which I can use for gmail11:51
Riddellis that for the "Launchpad OpenPGP Key Confirmation" ?11:53
Riddellcan't you download the raw e-mail?11:55
Riddellor you could pick it up with imap11:55
nareshovi'll check11:56
Riddellor copy and paste into a text file11:58
nareshovomg, my private key is missing :[11:59
nareshovwhen I get dependencies-not-satisfied error, I have to install them from -t gutsy , right?12:04
_StefanS_Riddell: everything is set up now, and i've apt-get source'd the kdelibs512:05
_StefanS_Riddell: is this correct?12:05
Hobbseenareshov: depends what they are, and where they should be.12:05
Riddell_StefanS_: nareshov is doing kdelibs, I suggested these ones for you kdeaccessibility-kde4 kdeadmin-kde4 kdeartwork-kde4 kdeedu-kde4 kdegames-kde412:06
_StefanS_got kdeaccessbility right here12:06
_StefanS_Riddell: I just need to change the version in the changelog?12:06
_StefanS_~ppa.. like you said earlier12:07
Riddell_StefanS_: yes12:07
Riddell_StefanS_: they check it builds as far as configure done and starting to compile12:07
nareshovHobbsee: okay, most of them are installing fom gutsy, and a few from the ppa12:08
_StefanS_4:4.0.0-0ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1 is the right string ?12:09
_StefanS_Riddell: ^12:09
Riddell_StefanS_: 4:4.0.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa112:10
_StefanS_not ubuntu312:10
Riddellno, it should be the same as in hardy then ~gutsy1~ppa112:11
_StefanS_Riddell: ok then.. the current string is: '4:4.0.0-0ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa', and when i do dch -i, it suggests '4:4.0.0-0ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1ubuntu1'12:12
Riddell_StefanS_: hmm, you have the worng version then12:13
_StefanS_Riddell: I've added the ppa deb to sources.list like you said earlier12:13
_StefanS_Riddell: is that wrong?12:13
Riddell_StefanS_: oh, you need to add the hardy deb-src line12:13
_StefanS_ahh :D12:13
Riddelldeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main universe12:14
_StefanS_Riddell: so the ppa one is not needed?12:14
Riddell_StefanS_: you want the ppa deb line (not source)12:14
_StefanS_Riddell: much better..12:15
nareshovkde4libs is building12:17
nareshovdeps were satisfiable as it is12:17
nareshovbut I lost my private key >_>12:17
Riddellmake a new one?12:18
nareshovok, on it12:18
_StefanS_Riddell: uhm, I need dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.0.2) kdebase-workspace-dev (>= 4:4.0.2), so I guess its what nareshov is building12:19
nareshovI got a CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND error12:19
Riddell_StefanS_: yep, just change 4:4.0.2 to 4:4.0.1 for now, but be sure to change it back when building the source package12:20
Riddellnareshov: install build-essential12:20
_StefanS_Riddell: ok it builds now, I guess I can move on to the next package12:21
* jussi01 is heading home soon. is there something I can help with? (need a little guidance though)12:21
Riddell_StefanS_: yep12:21
Riddelljussi01: there's more backporting to be done if you're able12:22
jussi01Riddell: sure. Ill be home in ~ 30-45 mins12:23
jussi01Riddell: as I said, Id need a little guidance, but if theres something I can help with Id love to12:24
ryanakcaRiddell: how d'you backport? change the changelog to gutsy/etc, check the deps/lower them if needed, and then test the building?12:25
Riddellryanakca: yes, although in most cases its safe to upload without testing the full compile12:26
ryanakcaRiddell: well, test 'till the end of configure?12:26
Riddellif you need to lower the build dep you need to test that it still compiles12:27
ryanakcaokies, well, if there's still some left in 9 hours, I'm willing to help out12:28
nareshovRiddell: I just changed my primary contact email to one that I have imap access to, can you send me the confirmation mail to join ppa again?12:29
Riddellnareshov: ppa doesn't need confirmation12:32
Riddelladding a gpg key does12:32
nareshovah, k12:32
nareshovkgpg rules :)12:36
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apacheloggerRiddell: today the kde 4 port of the kopete OTR plugin has been released, should I try getting a FFe for it?12:46
\shoff the record12:46
apacheloggeroff the record12:46
Riddellwhat's that?12:47
\shRiddell: yepp...12:47
Riddellsure, go ahead12:47
\shapachelogger: does it work together with the pidgin otr plugin?12:47
nareshovkde4libs is... huge?12:48
_StefanS_Riddell: all the packages you gave me builds fine with the changed version-string, and deps on
nareshovI'm still cmaking at 35%12:48
_StefanS_Riddell: built them fully to be sure.12:48
Riddell_StefanS_: groovy, change back to 4:4.0.2, make sure it says gutsy in the changelog, debuild -S -sa  and dput to kubuntu-members-kde412:49
apachelogger\sh: don't know, but I would assume so since the pidgin plugin also uses libotr2 IIRC12:49
\shapachelogger: ah cool :)12:50
nareshovRiddell: the process is like: we check if it build on our comps, we debuild -S -sa + dput, and then it's built somewhere?12:51
emonkey\sh, my kde 3 kopete otr plugins works with the pidgin otr plugin12:51
emonkeyI think the kde 4 should do that too12:52
apacheloggerI honestly never used it :P12:52
Riddellnareshov: you don't even need to check that it builds completely, just that it starts to build is good enough12:52
apacheloggeremonkey: what's yer jabber id?12:52
nareshovoh, k12:53
emonkeyapachelogger, punkt@swissjabber.ch12:53
Riddellnareshov: then debuild -S -sa, then dput kubuntu-members-kde4 ...source.changes12:53
nareshov../source.changes ?12:53
Riddellnareshov: you'll need to edit ~/.dput.cf as it says here https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart12:54
_StefanS_Riddell: I guess I need a gpg key for the dput ?12:54
Riddell_StefanS_: for the debuild you will12:54
nareshovssh key too?12:54
Riddellnareshov: no12:54
Riddell_StefanS_: copy your ~/.gnupg into your chroot12:54
_StefanS_Riddell: will do .12:55
_StefanS_Riddell: what about kdenetwork-kde4, isnt that supposed to rebuilt as well?12:56
Riddell_StefanS_: yep, go for it12:57
_StefanS_be back later13:06
nareshovkde4libs - uploaded13:09
nareshovgot rejected13:15
nareshovsays must be signed by ubuntero13:15
nareshovoh, CoC13:16
apacheloggerjpatrick: ping13:20
apachelogger\sh, ScottK, jpatrick: can one of you please take a quick look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kopete-plugin-otr-kde413:21
ScottKThis is a New package?13:21
apacheloggerScottK: yes13:21
ScottKLucky for you nixternal did a blanket FFe waiver for KDE4.13:22
apacheloggerScottK: so I can upload without FFe?13:22
ScottKI'm not sure.  This package isn't actually part of KDE4.  It's a separate thing for KDE4 (I'm just looking at it).13:24
apacheloggerwell, I have all logs for an FFe, so it would only depend on you guys :)13:25
nareshovGuys, I screwed up here, got 'rejected' at step 4 in https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart . I signed my CoC just now. How do I start over?13:26
jussi01Riddell: Im home. what do you have for me? ( start with a simple one perhaps?)13:26
Riddelljussi01: kdetoys-kde413:28
Riddellis a simple one13:28
ScottKapachelogger: I'd say file it as it's not a core KDE4 app and we don't want the door open for anything that uses KDE4.13:28
jussi01Riddell: ok.13:28
apacheloggerScottK: well, maybe it would make sense for those packages which have the kde3 version already in universe?13:29
nareshovRiddell: help. kde4libs got rejected13:29
Riddellnareshov: didn't you say you need to sign the CoC?13:29
jussi01Riddell: just to be clear, we are backporting hardy -> gutsy, correct?13:29
nareshovI did just now13:29
Riddelljussi01: yes, to the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA13:30
nareshovdput'ing again says it's already uploaded13:30
ScottKapachelogger: Maybe, but there's a balance here.13:30
ScottKI'd suggest ask.13:30
Riddellnareshov: rm *upload13:30
nareshovah, worked13:32
jussi01hmmm, can someone remind me of the command to add changelog entries? (rather than manually doing it?)13:39
nareshovdch -i13:40
nareshovexport EDITOR=emacs :D13:40
jussi01pffft emacs :P13:40
nareshovRiddell: How do I handle kdepimlibs5-dev ?13:41
jussi01ok, which kde4 deps versions do I need to depend on? 4.0.2 or 4.0.1?13:43
nareshovkde4libs 4.0.2 just got published13:44
nareshovtest please ^^13:44
Riddelljussi01: for testing 4.0.1 using the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA, but mind and change back to 4.0.2 before upload13:45
Riddellnareshov: likewise ^^13:45
Hobbseeand no one has uploaded anything in a while that FTBFS13:46
Riddellnareshov: I see kde4libs in the PPA, well done, it'll take a couple of hours for it to compile and the .debs to be published13:47
ScottKDoes Adept log the term log anywhere?13:50
Riddell /var/log/apt/term.log ?13:59
ScottKI'd have thought it would, but apparently it doesn't13:59
ScottKUnless it has another place it stuffs things, I think that's a rather important omission.14:00
seezerjust noticed a broken dependency for plasma-playground. it wants "kde4base" to be installed which is not provided by kdebase-kde4.14:02
Riddellplasma-playground is obsolete14:05
seezerguess it has not that big impact :) worth a bugreport?14:05
seezerah ok even "better"14:05
RiddellI'll remove it14:05
nareshovWe don't have libxklaiver12-dev in Gutsy (we have libxklavier11-dev), what do I do?14:19
nareshov(build-dep of kdebase-workspace 4.0.2)14:20
Riddellnareshov: change the build-deps14:20
nareshovand see if it works?14:20
RiddellI'm sure it will, 12 is pretty new14:21
nareshovWhat's the meaning of ~gutsy1~ppa1 ?14:22
Riddell~ means less than14:24
Riddellso 4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 is less than 4.0.2-0ubuntu1 mean it can be updated when the user upgrades to hardy14:24
Riddell~gutsy1 is used for backports in gutsy-backports, ~gutsy1~ppa1 is for our PPA14:25
ScottKRiddell: Who is the person to talk to about displayconfig problems?  I've got a crasher I know how to patch a band-aid for, but I'd rather try and deal with the root cause if I could get some help.14:27
nareshov16:41 < Riddell> nareshov: could you start on kde4libs kdepimlibs kdebase-runtime kdebase-kde4 kdebase-workspace14:27
nareshovDone them al :)14:27
RiddellScottK: it's essentially unmaintained currently14:27
RiddellScottK: _Sime_ is the original author and glatzor did work in gutsy time but it's being replaced in ubuntu14:28
ScottKRiddell: OK.  When is it being replaced?14:28
RiddellScottK: I don't know, possibly it already has been14:28
glatzorRiddell: ScottK: AFAIK jockey still uses it14:29
ScottKRiddell: What's the Kubuntu plan then?14:29
glatzorRiddell: ScottK: The whole approach of using a complete xorg.conf is a little bit outdated and doesn't fit anymore.14:29
RiddellScottK: mm, we need to make one14:30
ScottKRiddell: So bandaids for Hardy and think hard between now an UDS?14:30
Riddellnareshov: kdesdk-kde4 kdeutils-kde4 kdewebdev-kde4 kdenetwork-kde4 (network needs new decibel)14:31
RiddellScottK: guess so14:31
* Riddell out for a bit14:31
ScottKRiddell: My plan then for the crash I'm currently experiencing is to trap the error and then push things in the correct direction so this problem is solved, but there should be no regression risk for others.14:31
ScottKI'll upload that at the same time I upload the mountconfig change after Alpha 614:32
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jussi01Riddell: sory about the delay, got distracted with some other issues. It builds fine for me here using 4.0.1 (in pbuilder) what do I need to do now?14:51
jussi01gah, he has left for a bit. oh well ill wait14:51
DaSkreechhunger: Whoot Eva :)14:57
DaSkreechhunger: give her a hug next time you see her14:57
hungerDaSkreech: You know her?14:58
DaSkreechDoes that make a difference? :)14:58
hungerDaSkreech: I guess it will make one to her.14:59
DaSkreechNaw People love random acts of kindness14:59
* jussi01 hugs DaSkreech 15:00
DaSkreechOy now wot's all this eh?15:01
nareshov19:46 < Riddell> nareshov: kdesdk-kde4 kdeutils-kde4 kdewebdev-kde4 kdenetwork-kde4 (network needs new decibel)15:01
* nareshov too hugs DaSkreech 15:01
DaSkreechBoy if I had a hug for everytime I got hugged...15:02
hungerDaSkreech: recursion alert!15:02
DaSkreechhunger: That recursion I can handle :)15:16
Riddellhi jussi0115:18
jussi01Riddell: hei15:18
jussi01Riddell: So what is the next step after building fine? do I need to install and test? or upload somewhere?15:19
* jussi01 hasnt done ackaging for a bit15:20
Riddelljussi01: did you change the version number and set gutsy in changelog?15:20
Riddelljussi01: what's your launchpad username?15:20
jussi01Riddell: jussi0115:20
jussi01Riddell: no, I havent changed the version number, but I did set gutsy15:21
Riddelljussi01: add a new changelog entry (dch -i) and use the same version number with ~gutsy1~ppa1 on the end15:21
DaSkreechJucato: http://h30187.www3.hp.com/courses/overview/p/courseId/554815:22
RiddellI've added you to ~kubuntu-members-kde415:22
jussi01Riddell: thanks15:22
Riddelljussi01: debuild -S -sa  for source build15:23
Riddelladd ~kubuntu-members-kde4 to  ~/.dput.cf15:23
Riddellsee https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart15:23
jussi01I need to change the deps versions back to 4.0.2 correct?15:23
Riddelland dput k-ppa ..source.changes file15:24
JucatoDaSkreech: hm?15:24
DaSkreechJucato: nice little class :)15:27
DaSkreechI know IBM has them didn't know HP ran them as well15:27
* jussi01 prays and hopes he hasnt messed anything up... (well too bad anyway)15:31
jussi01Riddell: ok, uploaded fine. hopefully all looks good.15:33
Riddelljussi01: did you get the accepted notice?15:33
jussi01Riddell: to my email?15:34
jussi01not yet15:34
jussi01be here in a moment i expect15:34
jussi01hrmm, got rejected15:35
Riddellwhat did it say?15:36
jussi01Could not find distribution '~kubuntu-members-kde4'15:36
jussi01Further error processing not possible because of a critical previous error.15:36
Riddellwhat's in your ~/.dput.cf ?15:37
jussi01Ill querie and paste15:37
nareshovRiddell: Do we have to backport decibel as well?15:46
Riddellnareshov: yes15:47
jussi01Riddell: thank you for your help. now I have learnt that, have you another?15:48
Riddelljussi01: extragear if you want15:48
Riddellkcoloredit-4.0.2.tar.bz2  kgrab-0.1.1.tar.bz2       kiconedit-4.0.2.tar.bz2    libksane-0.1.0.tar.bz215:49
Riddellkfax-3.3.6.tar.bz2        kgraphviewer-2.0.tar.bz2  kpovmodeler-1.1.2.tar.bz2  rsibreak-0.9.0-beta3.tar.bz215:49
jussi01Riddell: sure. so its all of those included in it?15:50
Riddelljussi01: those are the source packages15:53
nareshovThere's a bdep problem with libqttelepathy-dev15:54
nareshovI have the gutsy version installed and yet it errors out on debuild15:54
nareshovbackport that as well?15:54
Riddellnareshov: hmm15:55
Riddellnareshov: it sounds like it would be easier to just remove the decibel build-dep from kdenetwork-kde4 then15:56
Riddellnareshov: you'll have to finnish the compile of it and see if it still builds properly15:56
Riddellor if anything needs adjusted15:56
jussi01Riddell: Im a little confuzzled15:58
Riddelljussi01: what's up?15:58
Riddellmost of those will have -kde4 on the end come to think of it15:58
jussi01Riddell: ok. so I need to backport all of those source packs? not the package called extragear? (now I know I sound stupid, but...)15:59
Riddelljussi01: correct, so starting with kcoloredit-kde416:00
jussi01aye, thanks. got a little confused ther, but all is well now. :)16:01
nareshovRiddell: plasma-kget build error16:08
Riddellnareshov: hmm?16:14
nareshov/home/nareshov/Documents/Ubuntu/Backporting/KDE4.0.2/kdenetwork-kde4/kdenetwork-kde4-4.0.2/kget/plasma/applet/plasma-kget.cpp:61: error: ‘TopMargin’ is not a member of ‘Plasma’16:15
nareshovmake[3]: *** [kget/plasma/applet/CMakeFiles/plasma_applet_kget.dir/plasma-kget.o] Error 116:15
Riddellnareshov: oh that needs the new kdebase-workspace, I guess you'll need to wait until it's done in the ppa and install it and try again16:16
nareshovHmm, ok16:16
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smarterflahs seems to be borken in konqueror 3.5.917:33
smarteranyone can confirm?17:34
Riddellworks for me17:35
Riddell64 bit even17:35
smarterflash r115?17:37
_Sime_wow, plasma is eating 41% of my memory17:39
smarterworks now, removing some adblock rules helped17:39
jussi01Riddell: kcoloredit, kgrab, kfax and kgrapheditor all uploaded. going ut for a bit, will finish the others when I get back.17:57
Riddelljussi01: excellent17:58
nixternalRiddell: that was for gutsy those uploads jussi01 did right?18:10
nixternalwhew, OK18:10
nixternalscared me for a second18:10
nixternalI might need to reupload a couple of the extragear packages for FTBFS and Not Uploaded18:11
apacheloggernixternal: does upstream actually release tarballs of webkitkde yet?18:24
apacheloggernixternal: actually konqueror 4.0.2 craps out when installing webkitkde -.-18:27
nixternalour webkit is broken that's why18:28
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apacheloggernixternal: cool18:30
apacheloggernixternal: go fix it :P18:30
nixternalhey, failed to upload in buildd, will that work itself out eventually?18:36
Riddellapachelogger: there no upstream releases of webkit never mind webkitkde18:37
Riddellit won't get fixed until qt 4.4 is out18:37
Riddellnixternal: probably not18:38
Riddellnixternal: where's the error?18:38
nixternalkpovmodeler-kde4, all platforms failed to upload18:40
Riddellah, it's complaining about the mis-spelling, should be modeller :)18:40
nixternalyou had me for a second with that18:41
nixternalrsibreak-kde4 FTBFS on everything but i386 due to libplasma not being complete yet, will those work themselves out or no?18:42
nixternalRiddell: webkit works in qt-copy :)18:42
Riddellnixternal: you'd need to ask for a give back when plasma exists18:43
Riddellwhich it should by now I think18:43
nixternalcan you give a give back? :)18:43
* nixternal checks for libplasma18:43
RiddellI can't no18:43
Riddelltry slangasek18:44
nixternalwill do18:44
apacheloggerRiddell: is it a known issue, that kde4libs in the ppa is linked against libgif right now?18:48
Riddellapachelogger: doh18:48
Riddellapachelogger: that'll be a bug, fixes welcome18:48
apacheloggerRiddell: already working on it :)18:49
nosrednaekimas a student who very much wants to be in the google summer of code, is ubuntu/kubuntu participating?18:52
smarternosrednaekim: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuSummerOfCodeIdeas18:55
nosrednaekimI know there is a wiki page with ideas... but I didn't know if they were actually applying18:56
* apachelogger is afraid of the bug reports "kde4 upgrade broke my kde3"18:56
ScottKapachelogger: Because if those come I will haunt you.18:58
apacheloggerScottK: wasn't my fault this time :P19:03
apacheloggerScottK: btw, bug #19835419:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198354 in ubuntu "[FFe] kopete-plugin-otr-kde4" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19835419:03
apacheloggerhm, i386 on ppa seems to be jammed19:06
yuriyhm wallpaper working for people on 4.0.2?19:11
Riddellyuriy: hmm, it seems to have broken19:15
jussi01Riddell: ok, Im back, Im going to get straight into those packages, should have them done soone19:19
yuriywallpaper bug filed, bug 19847019:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198470 in kdebase-workspace "wallpaper broken in plasma in kde 4.0.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19847019:22
james_wHi all.19:32
yuriyhmm bug 198469 in hardy is a feature right? i guess it breaks things for gutsy ppa though19:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198469 in kde4libs "libgif4 use to compile kdelibs4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19846919:32
james_wI noticed that a lot of patches to kde stuff have "kubuntu" in the name (when using a patch system). I wondered if there was some sort of policy around this, or whether it was just what the person making the patch decided.19:33
Riddelljames_w: patches we add use kubuntu_, other patches from debian don't19:34
yuriyah apachelogger already fixed it19:38
apacheloggerIMO is nvidia eating KDE 419:40
apacheloggereating the graphics19:41
yuriyapachelogger: slowly, from the edges of the screen. ate the wallpaper too : )19:41
apacheloggerit is awful, and I can't do anything about it since I have nothing that even resembles an nvidia card remotely19:42
apacheloggerto make it clear, I don't own any graphic cards at all -.-19:42
jussi01Riddell: I assume kpovmodeler is the package, as there is no kpovmodeler-kde4 ?19:42
yuriyapachelogger: i have plenty of nvidia. any ideas to debug?19:44
* apachelogger is bad with guiding someone to debug :)19:46
apacheloggerI am very much driven by insanity and the urge to try strange things19:46
Riddelljussi01: ask nixternal19:46
apacheloggeryuriy: are you running hardy?19:46
james_wRiddell: so the idea is to distinguish what you added, rather than anything specific to kubuntu?19:47
apacheloggerjames_w: makes it easier to merge the packaging with the debian version19:48
james_wapachelogger: ok, thanks.19:48
james_wCan I ask how your relationship with the Debian KDE team is?19:49
jussi01nixternal: please see my above question19:49
yuriyapachelogger: yeah19:53
Riddelljames_w: we get on fine19:57
apacheloggeryuriy: could you please try whether this issue also appears on gutsy?19:58
RiddellI've even been known to dance with them19:58
apacheloggeryuriy: it might be caused by some underlying library or something19:58
tlaytonhey all. on hardy and trying to log in to kde 4.0.2. the first icon flashes for a bit, then the screen turns back, and back at the login screen. how can i find out what's happening?19:58
yuriyapachelogger: ok, i'll try later today. will need to reboot :-\19:59
nosrednaekimtlayton» AFAIK, the 4.0.2 packages are not finished yet19:59
tlaytons/turns back/turns black/19:59
james_wRiddell: :)20:00
james_wIs there an active dialog and flow of patches though?20:00
james_wI'm asking 'cos one of my current projects is pushing patches back, but I won't get involved if you are already on top of it.20:00
tlaytonnosrednaekim: is there a log file anywhere i can check?20:02
nosrednaekimtlayton» not that I know of, but jussi01 just said a couple minutes ago that he was still working on them.20:03
jussi01building as we speak. however, what Im doing would be classed _non_ essential20:04
Riddelljames_w: yes, we tell them whenever we add a patch that would be interesting20:04
james_wRiddell: great. Thanks, I'll leave the kubuntu packages up to you.20:05
smartertlayton: ~/.xsession-errors20:06
Artemis_FowlKDE's dependencies are evil20:07
Artemis_Fowlmy whole KDE installation crashed due to a broken package20:08
tlaytondoes kde 4 require network manager, as i'm using wicd?20:10
nosrednaekimtlayton» please ask kde4 questions in #kubuntu-kde420:10
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* nixternal converts to paper & pencil to do a data model20:30
ScottKHow evil would it be if someone gets the displayconfig crash that comes from not having any xorg.cong at all to kick off dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?20:30
nixternaldpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg won't work if there isn't a xorg.conf either20:31
jussi01nixternal: is kpovmodeler in hardy repos the kde4 version? if not, where is the kde4 package?20:31
nixternalunless that has been fixed sometime this week20:31
ScottKUrgh.  OK.20:31
nixternaljussi01: kpovmodeler-kde4, I have to reupload it so wait on that20:31
jussi01nixternal: sure20:32
Riddellnixternal: did you work out what was wrong?20:32
_StefanS_Riddell: how far did the packaging go? is my patches still needed?20:32
nixternalRiddell: awaiting one final kdebase-workspace build on sparc before I reupload kpov and rsibreak20:32
Riddellnixternal: I wouldn't care about sparc20:33
Riddell_StefanS_: packaging of what?20:33
nixternalroger that, then I will upload them now20:33
_StefanS_Riddell: kde4 on gutsy20:33
_StefanS_Riddell: I had to leave earlier, so I dont know if someone took over20:33
_StefanS_ScottK: did you get the klamav thingy going ?20:34
ScottK_StefanS_: Yes.  I haven't uploaded yet because I have a few other things to touch first, but your change did exactly what I needed.20:35
jussi01Riddell: all of the packages you asked for, with the exception of kpovmodeler have been uploaded and accepted20:35
_StefanS_ScottK: oka, I just thought you might have found something else in there.. but sounds good.20:35
ScottK_StefanS_: No.  What you gave me was perfect.  I just want to check documentation and such to make sure I've done everything I need to do on the package.20:36
_StefanS_ScottK: cool.20:36
_StefanS_Riddell: so how about those packages? :)20:37
nixternaljussi01: you want me to put the kpovmodeler files up on my server so you can grab them?20:37
jussi01nixternal: no, its fine. Ill wait for the upload to hardy20:38
nixternalroger that, I did the upload a few minutes ago, so it should go into building shortly20:38
Riddell_StefanS_: network is done, your others still need doing20:40
Riddelljussi01: great, thanks!20:40
_StefanS_Riddell: ok good. If I do a debuild -S and send you the diffs, can you take the rest? I'm sort of working at the moment20:40
_StefanS_hey Tonio_ !20:40
Tonio_hey _StefanS_ ;)20:41
Tonio__StefanS_: no time today for the patch, will look tomorrow morning (I'm staying home)20:41
_StefanS_Tonio_: sure :)20:41
_StefanS_nareshov: you there?20:51
DaSkreechkde4-core doesn't depend on X :)20:56
_StefanS_DaSkreech: ah, dont make a big fuss out of it :D20:58
DaSkreechI'm not I just installed kde4-core last night and then came back expecting nice stuff20:59
DaSkreechHmm ok Lets start kdm21:00
DaSkreechno kdm21:00
DaSkreechinstall kdm21:00
DaSkreechok can't start. Ah ok there is no X :) funny that21:00
DaSkreechkde4 package also doesn't depend on X :021:01
jussi01Riddell: how much more do we have to do for 4.0.2? Anything more you need from me?21:02
_StefanS_I would like someone to upload a few kde4 packages to gutsy for me..21:03
_StefanS_debdiff's actually21:03
smarterkubuntu-kde4-desktop should depends/recommends on oxygen-cursor-theme21:03
_StefanS_I havent set up gpg and all that21:04
DaSkreechHmm I've forgotten how's the KDE4 adept port?21:05
apacheloggeris someone compiling OOo again?21:07
apacheloggeror are the ppa buildds for i386 just looping to death?21:07
apacheloggerbuilding language packs21:12
apacheloggeronly a matter of days :|21:12
nosrednaekim"oh my dear"21:14
apacheloggeroh mon dieu :P21:14
smarterhehe :P21:14
smarteroh my dog21:14
nosrednaekimapachelogger is dyslexic!21:15
ScottKWhat package keeps monitor information for Kubuntu?21:17
apacheloggerScottK: monitor information?21:19
ScottKInformation about different montor types21:19
ScottKYes.  It turns out it is...21:20
dusharaHi. Where does the function setlocale get it's information from? What directory?21:20
smarterLANG variable?21:20
smarterah setlocale21:20
apacheloggerScottK: guidance-backends might keep it nowadays, because of displayconfig-gtk21:21
apacheloggerjust a wild guess21:21
smarter /usr/share/local maybe21:21
smarter /usr/share/locale21:21
DaSkreechjjesse: Hey hey21:23
dusharaScratch that. :-) It's /usr/lib/locale. Just found out the mistake I made (duh)21:25
jjessehey hey21:26
ryanakcaany backporting left?21:31
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ryanakcaheh, the bbc.co.uk has an interesting new layout.... wouldn't work for what we want, but still interesting... probably sucks for text browsers though :)21:38
DaSkreechRight off home21:44
_StefanS_Riddell: kde-accessibility, -admin, -artwork, -edu and -games is uploaded to kde4 ppa.21:53
_StefanS_Riddell: sure hope I didn't b0rk anything :D21:53
Riddellthanks _StefanS_!21:55
_StefanS_Riddell: is there anything else ? :)21:55
Riddelljust keep an eye on them and see if it works21:56
ScottKRiddell: I just messed up and pushed kdeguidance into the repos instead of to my PPA.  I'm going to revert it.21:56
ScottKAlready confessed my sins to slangesek21:56
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Riddellother random things to do would be change knetworkmanager to use /etc/xdg/autostart for its autostart file21:57
Riddellalso adept-notifier21:57
_StefanS_Riddell: err, it seems like the kdelibs is not updated yet.. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12424851/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.kdegames-kde4_4%3A4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz21:57
* _StefanS_ is going for coffee..22:00
apachelogger_StefanS_: i386 got stuck in the queue, the language packs are getting built right now22:02
apacheloggerwhich might take some time22:02
_StefanS_apachelogger: thank god. Then its not me doing stuff wrong :D22:04
apacheloggeroh well, there were quite some stuff going wocka with a FTBS22:04
_StefanS_Riddell: thats all in hardy, right?22:05
apacheloggerhm, unmet dependencies afais22:05
ScottKWhoever uploaded kde4libs_4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1 to Debian might want to go over to #debian-qt-kde and apologize.22:07
_StefanS_oh my m$ is preparing windows to boot off an USB-key... thats new technology for you right there.22:08
_StefanS_ScottK: i guess thats the missing kdelibs :D22:09
apacheloggerScottK: did the server explode?22:09
ScottKNo, but their kdelibs upload got rejected as a result.22:09
apachelogger_StefanS_: no, just a wrong dput22:09
ScottKThey're a little grumpy22:09
apacheloggerwe could just all go over and apologize22:10
nosrednaekim_StefanS_» after they intentionally disallowed you from doing that before?22:10
babalihello :)22:11
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: theyre just amazing..22:12
nosrednaekim_StefanS_» "unbelieveable" might be a better word22:12
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: I guess you get a harddrive to put the swapfile on.22:13
babalii just updated kubuntu with the kde4 repository. it looks  like some  packages are broken22:13
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: thats portability for you right there ;)22:13
nosrednaekim_StefanS_» haha...funny thing it, I was trying to do it from a usb HD..22:14
babalifor example i can't install kdelibs5: Depends: kdelibs5-data (>= 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa2) but it is not going to be installed22:15
ryanakcababali: #kubuntu-kde4 might be a better place to ask22:15
babaliryanakca: thank you ;-)22:15
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: well what tricks me, is that alot of people will think they invented it in the firstplace (booting of usb-key)22:16
gribeludoes kde 4.0.2 hardy work for anyone? i can't log into kde4.. i get a message that kbuildsycoca4 has crashed and then i just see a wallpaper22:17
* yuriy hugs ScottK for guidance patches22:17
babaligribelu: it doesn't work for me too22:17
gribelugood then22:18
babaligribelu: but i have dependancies problems to install kde 4.0.222:18
gribeluah.. i don't.. i had 4.0.0 and 4.0.1 before now i just upgraded22:19
gribeluno errors..22:19
babaliyou can install kde4-core ?22:19
nosrednaekimplease go to #kubutn-kde4 for ke4 discussion22:20
ScottKyuriy: Thanks.  I'll put them in my PPA for people to test until after the current freeze is over.22:20
yuriyScottK: oh i saw a commit message on a bug, where did that package go?22:21
ScottKyuriy: I uploaded it to the archive by mistake (which is why you saw it).  Due to the freeze and it's not fully tested yet I reverted it.22:21
ScottKI'm about to upload it to PPA and I'll leave instructions in the relevant bugs.22:22
* ryanakca tried adding a "kde4support" and "kde4help" (aliased to kde4support) to ubotu, but it looks like we'll have to wait for someone in #ubuntu-ops to "approve" it :)22:22
ScottKyuriy: Assuming it all works it'll all end up in the release, just next week instead of today.22:22
gribeluis 4.0.2 packaging finished for hardy? working? .. just trying to figure out why kbuildsycoca4 kills my kde22:26
_StefanS_gotta sleep..22:28
ryanakcanight _StefanS_22:28
apacheloggerkde4libs is still waiting for build22:37
babaliapachelogger: where can i see this ?22:38
gribeluapachelogger: for hardy?22:38
babaliapachelogger: so can i expect  packages dependancies to be satisfied in 8h ? for gusty22:39
apacheloggerbabali: maybe, I can't really tell22:40
apacheloggerall build daemons are blocked by language packages22:41
apacheloggerand I have no idea how long it's still gonna take before they are all finished22:41
apacheloggergribelu: no, gutsy22:41
apacheloggerhardy should work properly22:41
babaliapachelogger: language packages requieres no compilations ?22:41
gribeluit doesn't for me.. i can't login22:41
gribelui get a message that kbuildsycoca4 has crashed and then i just see the kdm wallpaper22:42
apacheloggerbabali: they do22:42
gribelui rebooted and remove ~/.kde422:42
apacheloggerlike a KDE app wouldn't use the actual po file22:42
apacheloggerbut mo or how that thingy is called22:42
apacheloggerwhich is po in binary AFAIK22:43
apacheloggergribelu: did you try a dist-upgrade?22:43
gribeluapachelogger:  yes22:43
gribeluit's been crashing like this since last night22:43
babaliapachelogger: thank you for information. i am going to sleep, i'll see tomorow if i can fix my mum's computer ^^. Bye22:43
gribelui dist-upgraded multiple times since then22:44
apacheloggergribelu: what does .xsession-errors say?22:44
gribelui'll check22:44
* apachelogger notes that he should go to bed as well :P22:44
nosrednaekimnight apachelogger22:44
apacheloggernosrednaekim: I didn't say I do right now :P22:45
nosrednaekimapachelogger» I was about to ask if "should" meant "am"22:45
apacheloggerthat was just a warning in case I pass out and don't answer anymore22:45
apacheloggersweet cheese22:46
apacheloggerthey still have 654 packages waiting for a build22:47
apacheloggerthat is22:47
apachelogger~3 minutes per package22:47
apachelogger19xx minutes22:47
nosrednaekimor..... just a bit late tomorrow...22:48
apacheloggeri.e. > 30 hours22:48
apachelogger'a bit'22:48
gribeluapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58429/22:48
nosrednaekimthats for gutsy, right?22:48
apachelogger"KConfigIni: In file /usr/share/applications/wine-browsedrive.desktop, line 3: " "Invalid escape sequence "\ "."22:49
apacheloggerASSERT: "!st.isEmpty()" in file /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.0.2/kdecore/services/kservice.cpp, line 23522:50
gribeluhmm i'll move that out.. brb i have to logout again :((22:50
apacheloggerit is dying22:50
apacheloggergribelu: nah22:50
apacheloggergribelu: 1.22:50
apacheloggerwhere is that file from?22:50
apacheloggercan you please paste the file?22:50
gribelui think Wine22:50
gribeluone sec22:50
apacheloggergribelu: dpkg -S wine-browsedrive.desktop22:51
gribeluwine: /usr/share/applications/wine-browsedrive.desktop22:52
apacheloggerthat is way too strange22:52
apacheloggerwhy does kbuildsycoca crap out for you but none else?22:52
gribelulet me see if it still crashes after i move the file out22:52
* apachelogger thinks it will not22:53
apacheloggergribelu: doesn't, does it?22:55
gribelu still does22:55
gribelui have a longer .xsession-errors this time.. i let it do it's thing22:55
gribelukbuildsycoca crashes like 3 times22:55
gribeluactually 622:56
gribeluASSERT: "!st.isEmpty()" in file /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.0.2/kdecore/services/kservice.cpp, line 23522:57
apacheloggergribelu: please tar your /usr/share/applications and send it to apachelogger@ubuntu.com22:57
apacheloggerI think kbuildsycoca craps out before it even can spit out some debug messages22:57
gribelumail sent22:59
gribelui already --reinstalled most kde4 base packages so i don't know what's doing this23:00
gribelueverything was fine with 4.0.123:00
apacheloggergribelu: it's some other application I think23:01
gribelui hope so23:01
apacheloggernow it crashes for me as well23:02
gribeluhey can i ask a favor? if it turns out it's a local problem and there's no need to update kde4 packages.. could you mail me back with the name of the app23:02
gribelui'm saved23:02
apacheloggergribelu: swiftfox is not from any archive, is it?23:09
gribeluhmm.. it's from the swiftfox site23:12
apacheloggergribelu: it's broken23:14
apacheloggerjust remove the Mimetype line23:14
apacheloggergribelu: you should report this to swiftfox23:14
apacheloggerthe desktop file is suposed to crap out23:14
apacheloggerbecause the mimetype line ends with a ;23:15
apacheloggerwhich means the entry before is a mimetype23:15
apacheloggerbut since there is just that ; the mimetype is, well, void23:15
gribeluweird that the entire DE goes down because of a ;23:15
gribeluyeah now i can start kde4 apps .. after moving out swiftfox.desktop23:16
apacheloggernow I want to aks you a favor ;-)23:16
apacheloggergribelu: it would be really cool if you could a) inform swiftfox and b) report this on bugs.kde.org as well23:16
apacheloggerbecause even if the desktop file is technically wrong23:16
apacheloggerit's not anything but a good reason to crap out without any useful feedback23:17
gribelusure i'll report it23:17
gribeluyou can go sleep now :D23:17
gribeluthanks for the help23:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about devsnack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:18
apacheloggergribelu: you're very welcome23:18
* apachelogger starts searching a bed23:18
apacheloggernosrednaekim: good night ;-)23:18
nosrednaekimapachelogger» good night :)23:18
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jussi01Riddell: If you are still up, Id like some more packages to backport for tomorrow - if we need some done. Let me know, Ill check here in the morning (~8 hours from now)23:41
Riddelljussi01: I think that's all of them23:42
Riddellthe question is if they work23:42
RiddellI don't know if only kde4libs needed recompiled for libungif or if others need to be too23:42
jussi01Riddell: ok. if there is something else in particular that needs working on, let me know. Im in need of a little direction/a poke towards something now, so if something comes up, that isnt overly crazy, please tell me :)23:44
Riddelljussi01: there's always moving the autostart file for knetworkmanager23:45
jussi01Riddell: ok, I assume kde3 network manager as kde4 hasnt got one now?23:46
Riddelljussi01: yes23:47
Riddellneeds moved to /etc/xdg/autostart for kde4 to find it23:47
Riddelladept notifier needs the same thing23:47
jussi01Riddell: ok. Ill take a look at those when I get up in the morning. I assume its a packaging thing?23:48
Riddelljussi01: yes23:48
jussi01Riddell: ok, all good. I hope to have them fixed in the near future. right now, bed is calling.23:49
nixternalhi, I would like to get involved in development, what can I do to help? I know some java, some c++, some python, some other stuff..23:51
jussi01nixternal: hahahhahahahahhaha.... right23:52
ryanakcanixternal: umm... well, what do you think we're missing?23:53
ryanakcahow about a few thousand bugfixes...23:54
* ryanakca dumps the list of "Confirmed" bugs onto nixternals desk, smiles and closes the door behind him ;)23:54
* ryanakca grumbles at his keyboard layout no longer working in KDE4... dunno why though... 23:55
Riddellnixternal: drop the embedded console from the dist upgrade tool, it's more trouble than its worth23:56

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