[00:00] Maybe later tonight if it doesn't take long to fix displayconfig on my Hardy box. [00:01] oh, you will be there forever [00:01] need someone else to get revuing then [00:01] OUCH! [00:02] when doing svn history on trunk/KDE, don't forget the |less feature :) [00:02] :) [00:02] it can seriously crash a system [00:02] that is information overload [00:05] my new pet pieve: "Got a link?" or anything similar on something like the new NiN Ghosts release [00:05] I am like, GOOGLE DAMNIT! [00:05] just open up your browser, even if it goes to a 403 error window, you should find a link for such an event since it was posted everywhere today [00:06] I purchased the album, and now all of these people keep asking me to rip it for them [00:06] pay the $5 on amazon and support the freedom! [00:07] I will not rip it and pass it around for at least 2 more weeks..people want it, they can shell out $5 right? [00:07] [00:15] haha [00:15] how's it going with 4.0.2 packaging? [00:17] building away [00:17] nixternal: going to upload extragear? [00:17] oh happy day [00:17] no stdin for backports :( [00:18] Riddell: yes [00:18] all are done, but I need a revu on libksane [00:18] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=libksane [00:18] :) [00:21] looking [00:27] nixternal: soname doesn't match package name? [00:34] nixternal: i bought the flac but can't download it because their servers went boom [00:34] * seele is a little upset about that [00:34] i guess i'll wait a few days then [00:34] i never got around to buying/downloading radiohead either [00:34] * Jucato waves to seele [00:35] * seele waves back [00:36] ah, i like NIN much more than radiohead [00:36] i mean, radiohead is still good and all.. [00:37] i mean, they were also offering their new album for free with an option to pay. i never got around to checking it out or seeing if it's freely licensed though [00:44] Riddell: it seems it doesn't [00:45] SONAME libksane.so.0 [00:45] easy fix [00:45] i just had to dist-upgrade .. now kbuildsycoca crashes and kde4 never starts. Some of the 4.0.2 packages are live :) [00:46] nixternal: advocated, am off to bed [00:46] s/1/0 correct? [00:46] good night Riddell [00:48] nixternal: yes [00:53] Riddell: libksane uploaded - sitting in new [00:53] Debian bug 469039 [00:53] Debian bug 469039 in ftp.debian.org "RM: linda -- RoM; deprecated" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/469039 [00:53] moin Hobbsee! [00:54] hey Jucato! [00:56] Extragear 4.0.2 uploaded [01:42] is there a place where i can see the progress of a new/updated package being worked on? Like when the first attempt of a new version has been proposed, when it was advocated, when it was built? [02:23] nixternal» did R!ddell get back if kubuntu is doing the SoC? === _krawek_ is now known as krawek === kewark is now known as krawek [03:20] Should someone tell the Web team that the links on Brainstorm are horribly broken? [03:20] and that anything that deals with KDE probably shouldn't be thrown under "other" ? [03:22] heh [03:22] that what KDE is to them [03:24] They have multiple suggestions to give more support to KDE. Should be fun to see if they merge the votes or jsut delete them [03:24] heh [04:48] DaSkreech: According to all the blog PR they spent months working on Brainstorm, so I'm sure they've got it all figured out. [04:48] ScottK: doesn't help the navigation links are screwed up [04:48] * ScottK got signed up with the developer tag for it. Dunno what fun I'll have with that yet. [04:49] though I guess if you say so thats how they want it [04:49] DaSkreech: what should it be thrown under? I am a mod and a dev on there now...muhahahahaha [04:49] I will erase all of the Ubuntu ones :p [04:49] Well if it's on KDE look and feel how about having it under Look and feel? [04:49] DaSkreech: I was poking a little fun at how amaturish the rollout was. Sorry. [04:49] ScottK: it gives you 2 ubuntu logos, a tag that says developer, and bragging rights I guess :) [04:50] I say leave it under 'other' and see how many people read into it and say 'see, 2nd class citizens' [04:50] ScottK: I logged in yesterday and like near 1/2 of the newest ideas were all about how to make brainstorm better [04:50] or, I can make a topic called '2nd class citizen' :p [04:50] I like it how I look at my summary page and it says, "has no ideas". [04:50] nixternal: Well technically a 'other" has the most votes right now [04:51] I have yet to see a killer idea though..has anyone else? [04:51] Of course not. [04:52] We don't lack ability to think up good ideas. The shortfalls are all in implementation. [04:52] The distribute powered by Ubuntu stickers :) [04:53] hahaha, if he's country I'll kiss your ass [04:53] Yeah [05:17] Hiya! [05:17] Did many people experience displayconfig breakage after recent xorg updates? [05:17] fonts in adept are awesome [05:18] I updated today for the first time in several days and it's dead for me now. [05:19] * nixternal checks out displayconfig [05:19] ScottK: how can I test it to help you? [05:19] ScottK: it is working for me, I just fired it up in KDE 4 [05:20] *sighs9 [05:20] serega: Are you running KDE3 or 4? [05:20] Few more days till KDE4 I guess [05:20] same goes for KDE 3 [05:20] so it is working fine here [05:20] ScottK: KDE3 [05:20] nixternal: ping when you are done [05:20] the other day it was doing that python crap missing [05:20] DaSkreech: done what? [05:20] serega: Hardy? [05:20] I am always done :p [05:20] The displayconfig test [05:20] been done [05:20] I just had to make sure it was still working [05:20] ScottK: yes. I got some exceptions [05:21] nixternal: I fixed the python crap problem. [05:21] ScottK: what updates did you pull through? [05:21] * serega goes to pastebin [05:21] serega: Would you please pastebin your error? [05:21] Great [05:21] ScottK: I just installed python2.5-dev I think to get the file I needed for it to work [05:21] nixternal: Yep. I added that to the depends for libpythonize0 [05:21] nixternal@ShakaDoobie:~$ displayconfig [05:21] open /dev/mem: Permission denied [05:21] VESA BIOS Extensions not detected. [05:21] nixternal@ShakaDoobie:~$ [05:21] That's the work around for it linking to the wrong .so file. [05:22] that's what I got, but I didn't run it with root though [05:22] If you didn't crash, you're running ahead of me. [05:22] ya, no crash [05:22] ScottK: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/927314 [05:23] Looking [05:23] ScottK: when you get a FTBFS because one of the packages it depends on hasn't been updated yet, do the buildds take care of that, or do I have to upload again? [05:23] ShakaDoobie? [05:24] Sammy Hagar song from his 1013 album [05:24] serega: I see two things there: 1. an apport bug that I'm also experiencing. 2. A different displayconfig problem then I'm having. [05:24] serega: Please go look and see if there's an existing displayconfig bug with a traceback that looks something like that. [05:24] ScottK: feel free to bother me to find them out [05:25] ScottK: I have near 30 min at home(Hardy) now, then I will be at home only after 19:00UTC [05:26] * serega goes to launchpad [05:27] serega: Also please go to Bug #198183 and confirm it. You're having the same problem. [05:27] Launchpad bug 198183 in apport "Apport dies when it tries to catch displayconfig bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198183 [05:29] ScottK: done [05:29] Thanks. [05:30] nixternal: Think we should have a wiki script for weekly 4.1 builds ? [05:31] if you want to maintain it and setup a ppa for it [05:32] that is the nice thing about Foresight, all we do is go into rBuilder and say 'update', and in a couple of hours, we have a new trunk build [05:34] Well Suse has a nice build farm as well [05:34] I would expect in about 2 years the official ppas would do the same [05:35] Of course it builds RPMs for Ubuntu that may collide in namespace with official packages. [05:37] *that may collide* or *do collide* [05:37] I haven't been able to use one of their debs or rpms yet [05:46] To be honest I didn't have the guts to actually install one, but they provide packages that are also in the official repositories. [05:58] !info kblogger hardy [05:58] Package kblogger does not exist in hardy [05:58] damn [06:12] !info yakuake hardy [06:12] yakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.1-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 176 kB, installed size 1100 kB [06:14] nixternal: ping [06:14] yo [06:15] what's the kubuntu kde4 package? [06:15] name of [06:18] and is it on Universe or a PPA? [06:19] finally does it ship kde3 apps? [06:20] actaully yeah the release notes says it does [06:20] !info kde4 [06:20] Package kde4 does not exist in gutsy [06:20] !info kde4 hardy [06:20] kde4 (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB [06:22] !info koffice-kde4 hardy [06:22] koffice-kde4 (source: koffice2): KDE Office Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.9.96.0~that.is.really.1.9.95.3-1ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB [06:23] !info kde4-core hardy [06:23] kde4-core (source: meta-kde4): the K Desktop Environment version 4 core modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB === claydoh__ is now known as claydoh === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:04] hey [09:04] Riddell: hi [09:04] Riddell: I was too busy to connect last week, but I'll have a bunch of days for kubuntu starting on friday [09:04] Riddell: I hope to finish with my todo list at time for the release day [09:51] <_StefanS_> hey Tonio_ [09:51] _StefanS_: hi ! [09:52] _StefanS_: got your email, will fix the package today [09:52] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: sweet [09:53] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: the preview graphic in the kcm module should be changed too, but I didn't have the energy to do that last night [09:55] _StefanS_: are the images in the mail you sent me ? then I also can do it [09:56] <_StefanS_> yes they are [09:56] <_StefanS_> I think its the close image [10:01] Riddell: looks like the buildd has been changed to consider missing files : [10:01] dh_install: debian/tmp/usr/share/autostart/skim.desktop exists in debian/tmp/ but is not installed to anywhere [10:05] Riddell: I'll do it in rules, we don't wan't skim to autostart for everyone, as that was discussed last year ;) [10:13] ) [10:24] so, no stdin [10:24] volunteers needed for 4.0.2 backports [10:33] volunteers which are able to package? emonkey unfortunately can't do that [10:36] Testing should be possible [10:36] \sh, btw nice that you'll be in our flat in Berlin again. :) [10:50] <\sh> emonkey: :) [11:03] alsa devs must hate me [11:03] with every update, something else breaks [11:04] and in 2.6.24-11 i dont have any sound [11:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: what stuff needed to be backported? [11:17] _StefanS_: all of 4.0.2 [11:18] <_StefanS_> Riddell: oh my, are we heading for 4.0.2 in hardy? [11:18] <_StefanS_> Riddell: that would be seriously cool [11:18] _StefanS_: want to backport it to gutsy? [11:18] I'd like to help too [11:19] we do apt-get source, change versions a bit and repackage? [11:19] dch -i set version to ~gutsy1~ppa1 [11:20] debuild, make sure at least that the build-deps are satisfiable [11:20] throw into PPA, to which I can give you access [11:20] ok [11:20] see what breaks and fix it :) [11:20] I'm on gutsy, I'll need the deb-src lines of hardy, right? [11:20] yes [11:21] <_StefanS_> Riddell: err well I dont have any gutsy machines running. Is 4.0.2 is in hardy now? [11:21] <_StefanS_> -is [11:21] _StefanS_: yes [11:21] _StefanS_: you can use a chroot [11:23] <_StefanS_> Riddell: uhm, basically we just need to change a few lines and repackage it, no new code as such? [11:23] _StefanS_: yes [11:23] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I need some help regarding the chroot'ed gutsy, is there a wiki/guide somewhere? [11:24] _StefanS_: mkdir gutsy; debootstrap --variant=buildd gutsy gutsy; sudo chroot gutsy [11:24] <_StefanS_> sweet. [11:24] grab a cup of tea.. [11:24] <_StefanS_> guess its a good candidate for my new server. [11:24] <_StefanS_> and yes, i just bought more hardware :D [11:25] Riddell: what packages do I start with? [11:25] nareshov: could you start on kde4libs kdepimlibs kdebase-runtime kdebase-kde4 kdebase-workspace [11:26] k [11:26] <_StefanS_> Riddell: what should i start with? [11:27] _StefanS_: lets go alphabetically kdeaccessibility-kde4 kdeadmin-kde4 kdeartwork-kde4 kdeedu-kde4 kdegames-kde4 [11:28] <_StefanS_> right. [11:28] _StefanS_: you will need to temporarily change the kdelibs build-deps of those from 4.0.2 to 4.0.1 and add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main" to the chroot's sources.list [11:29] but make sure to change it back to 4.0.2 before building the source package and uploading [11:29] _StefanS_, nareshov: what are your launchpad usernames? [11:29] nareshov [11:29] clever :) [11:29] <_StefanS_> Riddell: screemo [11:29] :d [11:30] ok, I've added you both to ~kubuntu-members-kde4 [11:30] <_StefanS_> thanks [11:30] thankee [11:32] Has / will K3B been ported to KDE4 yet? *wonders if it needs packaging* [11:33] when you've changed the version number, and checked that it builds as far as the configuration and starting to compile build and sign the source packages and upload to that PPA (https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart) [11:34] <_StefanS_> ryanakca: is it even usuable on kde4 yet*? [11:34] there's no kde 4 version [11:34] nareshov: you'll need a gpg key in launchpad [11:35] I'll upload [11:35] _StefanS_: you'll need to copy your ~/.gnupg dir to the chroot /home/you/ [11:35] <_StefanS_> Riddell: wasnt he porting it? [11:35] <_StefanS_> ok. [11:35] _StefanS_: I hope so but there's no release [11:35] _StefanS_: hmmm... K3B on KDE4 complains it can't find a CD drive, but doesn't under KDE3. *adds it to his TODO* [11:38] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I seem to be missing alot of packages [11:38] <_StefanS_> Riddell: should I install kubuntu-desktop [11:38] <_StefanS_> ? [11:42] _StefanS_: a chroot does start with a minimum of packages [11:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I need /dev and /proc as well.. fixing it now. [11:42] apt-get install less wget emacs build-essential devscripts cdbs pbuilder is a good start [11:43] _StefanS_: you do? [11:43] <_StefanS_> thanks [11:43] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yep stuff like cupsys and so on need it, even though I will not use it [11:43] why do you need cupsys? [11:44] you can mount -t none -o bind /dev gutsy/dev [11:44] (from outside the chroot) [11:46] <_StefanS_> yep, I just did that [11:47] <_StefanS_> Riddell: works now. [11:49] crap, firegpg isn't working for me (getting "Unkown Error") [11:51] what's firegpg? [11:51] firefox extension which I can use for gmail [11:53] is that for the "Launchpad OpenPGP Key Confirmation" ? [11:54] ya [11:55] can't you download the raw e-mail? [11:55] or you could pick it up with imap [11:56] i'll check [11:58] or copy and paste into a text file [11:59] omg, my private key is missing :[ [12:04] when I get dependencies-not-satisfied error, I have to install them from -t gutsy , right? [12:05] <_StefanS_> Riddell: everything is set up now, and i've apt-get source'd the kdelibs5 [12:05] <_StefanS_> Riddell: is this correct? [12:05] nareshov: depends what they are, and where they should be. [12:06] _StefanS_: nareshov is doing kdelibs, I suggested these ones for you kdeaccessibility-kde4 kdeadmin-kde4 kdeartwork-kde4 kdeedu-kde4 kdegames-kde4 [12:06] <_StefanS_> got kdeaccessbility right here [12:06] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I just need to change the version in the changelog? [12:07] <_StefanS_> ~ppa.. like you said earlier [12:07] _StefanS_: yes [12:07] <_StefanS_> right. [12:07] _StefanS_: they check it builds as far as configure done and starting to compile [12:07] s/they/then/ [12:08] Hobbsee: okay, most of them are installing fom gutsy, and a few from the ppa [12:09] <_StefanS_> 4:4.0.0-0ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1 is the right string ? [12:09] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ^ [12:09] ya [12:10] _StefanS_: 4:4.0.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1 [12:10] no [12:10] oh [12:10] 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1 [12:10] <_StefanS_> ah [12:10] <_StefanS_> not ubuntu3 [12:11] no, it should be the same as in hardy then ~gutsy1~ppa1 [12:12] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ok then.. the current string is: '4:4.0.0-0ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa', and when i do dch -i, it suggests '4:4.0.0-0ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1ubuntu1' [12:13] _StefanS_: hmm, you have the worng version then [12:13] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I've added the ppa deb to sources.list like you said earlier [12:13] <_StefanS_> Riddell: is that wrong? [12:13] _StefanS_: oh, you need to add the hardy deb-src line [12:13] <_StefanS_> ahh :D [12:14] deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main universe [12:14] <_StefanS_> Riddell: so the ppa one is not needed? [12:14] _StefanS_: you want the ppa deb line (not source) [12:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: much better.. [12:17] kde4libs is building [12:17] deps were satisfiable as it is [12:17] but I lost my private key >_> [12:18] make a new one? [12:18] ok, on it [12:19] <_StefanS_> Riddell: uhm, I need dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.0.2) kdebase-workspace-dev (>= 4:4.0.2), so I guess its what nareshov is building [12:19] I got a CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND error [12:20] _StefanS_: yep, just change 4:4.0.2 to 4:4.0.1 for now, but be sure to change it back when building the source package [12:20] <_StefanS_> oka [12:20] nareshov: install build-essential [12:20] k [12:21] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ok it builds now, I guess I can move on to the next package [12:21] * jussi01 is heading home soon. is there something I can help with? (need a little guidance though) [12:21] re [12:21] _StefanS_: yep [12:22] jussi01: there's more backporting to be done if you're able [12:23] Riddell: sure. Ill be home in ~ 30-45 mins [12:24] Riddell: as I said, Id need a little guidance, but if theres something I can help with Id love to [12:25] Riddell: how d'you backport? change the changelog to gutsy/etc, check the deps/lower them if needed, and then test the building? [12:25] exactly [12:26] ryanakca: yes, although in most cases its safe to upload without testing the full compile [12:26] Riddell: well, test 'till the end of configure? [12:27] yes [12:27] if you need to lower the build dep you need to test that it still compiles [12:28] okies, well, if there's still some left in 9 hours, I'm willing to help out [12:29] Riddell: I just changed my primary contact email to one that I have imap access to, can you send me the confirmation mail to join ppa again? [12:32] nareshov: ppa doesn't need confirmation [12:32] adding a gpg key does [12:32] ah, k [12:36] kgpg rules :) === smarter__ is now known as smarter [12:46] Riddell: today the kde 4 port of the kopete OTR plugin has been released, should I try getting a FFe for it? [12:46] OTR? [12:46] <\sh> off the record [12:46] off the record [12:47] what's that? [12:47] encryption? [12:47] <\sh> Riddell: yepp... [12:47] sure, go ahead [12:47] k [12:47] <\sh> apachelogger: does it work together with the pidgin otr plugin? [12:48] kde4libs is... huge? [12:48] <_StefanS_> Riddell: all the packages you gave me builds fine with the changed version-string, and deps on 4.0.1. [12:48] I'm still cmaking at 35% [12:48] <_StefanS_> Riddell: built them fully to be sure. [12:49] _StefanS_: groovy, change back to 4:4.0.2, make sure it says gutsy in the changelog, debuild -S -sa and dput to kubuntu-members-kde4 [12:49] \sh: don't know, but I would assume so since the pidgin plugin also uses libotr2 IIRC [12:50] <\sh> apachelogger: ah cool :) [12:51] Riddell: the process is like: we check if it build on our comps, we debuild -S -sa + dput, and then it's built somewhere? [12:51] \sh, my kde 3 kopete otr plugins works with the pidgin otr plugin [12:52] I think the kde 4 should do that too [12:52] I honestly never used it :P [12:52] nareshov: you don't even need to check that it builds completely, just that it starts to build is good enough [12:52] emonkey: what's yer jabber id? [12:53] oh, k [12:53] apachelogger, punkt@swissjabber.ch [12:53] nareshov: then debuild -S -sa, then dput kubuntu-members-kde4 ...source.changes [12:53] okay [12:53] ../source.changes ? [12:53] yes [12:54] neat [12:54] nareshov: you'll need to edit ~/.dput.cf as it says here https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart [12:54] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I guess I need a gpg key for the dput ? [12:54] _StefanS_: for the debuild you will [12:54] ssh key too? [12:54] nareshov: no [12:54] k [12:54] _StefanS_: copy your ~/.gnupg into your chroot [12:55] <_StefanS_> Riddell: will do . [12:56] <_StefanS_> Riddell: what about kdenetwork-kde4, isnt that supposed to rebuilt as well? [12:57] _StefanS_: yep, go for it [13:06] <_StefanS_> be back later [13:09] kde4libs - uploaded [13:11] awooga [13:15] got rejected [13:15] says must be signed by ubuntero [13:16] oh, CoC [13:20] jpatrick: ping [13:21] \sh, ScottK, jpatrick: can one of you please take a quick look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kopete-plugin-otr-kde4 [13:21] This is a New package? [13:21] ScottK: yes [13:22] Lucky for you nixternal did a blanket FFe waiver for KDE4. [13:22] ScottK: so I can upload without FFe? [13:24] I'm not sure. This package isn't actually part of KDE4. It's a separate thing for KDE4 (I'm just looking at it). [13:25] well, I have all logs for an FFe, so it would only depend on you guys :) [13:26] Guys, I screwed up here, got 'rejected' at step 4 in https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart . I signed my CoC just now. How do I start over? [13:26] Riddell: Im home. what do you have for me? ( start with a simple one perhaps?) [13:28] jussi01: kdetoys-kde4 [13:28] is a simple one [13:28] apachelogger: I'd say file it as it's not a core KDE4 app and we don't want the door open for anything that uses KDE4. [13:28] Riddell: ok. [13:29] ScottK: well, maybe it would make sense for those packages which have the kde3 version already in universe? [13:29] Riddell: help. kde4libs got rejected [13:29] nareshov: didn't you say you need to sign the CoC? [13:29] Riddell: just to be clear, we are backporting hardy -> gutsy, correct? [13:29] I did just now [13:30] jussi01: yes, to the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA [13:30] dput'ing again says it's already uploaded [13:30] apachelogger: Maybe, but there's a balance here. [13:30] I'd suggest ask. [13:30] nareshov: rm *upload [13:32] ah, worked [13:39] hmmm, can someone remind me of the command to add changelog entries? (rather than manually doing it?) [13:40] dch -i [13:40] export EDITOR=emacs :D [13:40] pffft emacs :P [13:41] Riddell: How do I handle kdepimlibs5-dev ? [13:43] ok, which kde4 deps versions do I need to depend on? 4.0.2 or 4.0.1? [13:44] kde4libs 4.0.2 just got published [13:44] test please ^^ [13:45] jussi01: for testing 4.0.1 using the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA, but mind and change back to 4.0.2 before upload [13:45] nareshov: likewise ^^ [13:46] ok [13:46] and no one has uploaded anything in a while that FTBFS [13:47] nareshov: I see kde4libs in the PPA, well done, it'll take a couple of hours for it to compile and the .debs to be published [13:47] ok [13:50] Does Adept log the term log anywhere? [13:59] /var/log/apt/term.log ? [13:59] Nope. [13:59] I'd have thought it would, but apparently it doesn't [14:00] Unless it has another place it stuffs things, I think that's a rather important omission. [14:02] just noticed a broken dependency for plasma-playground. it wants "kde4base" to be installed which is not provided by kdebase-kde4. [14:05] plasma-playground is obsolete [14:05] guess it has not that big impact :) worth a bugreport? [14:05] ah ok even "better" [14:05] I'll remove it [14:19] We don't have libxklaiver12-dev in Gutsy (we have libxklavier11-dev), what do I do? [14:20] (build-dep of kdebase-workspace 4.0.2) [14:20] nareshov: change the build-deps [14:20] and see if it works? [14:20] ah [14:21] I'm sure it will, 12 is pretty new [14:21] ok [14:22] What's the meaning of ~gutsy1~ppa1 ? [14:24] ~ means less than [14:24] so 4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 is less than 4.0.2-0ubuntu1 mean it can be updated when the user upgrades to hardy [14:24] ah [14:25] ~gutsy1 is used for backports in gutsy-backports, ~gutsy1~ppa1 is for our PPA [14:25] ah [14:27] Riddell: Who is the person to talk to about displayconfig problems? I've got a crasher I know how to patch a band-aid for, but I'd rather try and deal with the root cause if I could get some help. [14:27] 16:41 < Riddell> nareshov: could you start on kde4libs kdepimlibs kdebase-runtime kdebase-kde4 kdebase-workspace [14:27] Done them al :) [14:27] ScottK: it's essentially unmaintained currently [14:28] ScottK: _Sime_ is the original author and glatzor did work in gutsy time but it's being replaced in ubuntu [14:28] Riddell: OK. When is it being replaced? [14:28] ScottK: I don't know, possibly it already has been [14:29] Riddell: ScottK: AFAIK jockey still uses it [14:29] Riddell: What's the Kubuntu plan then? [14:29] Riddell: ScottK: The whole approach of using a complete xorg.conf is a little bit outdated and doesn't fit anymore. [14:30] ScottK: mm, we need to make one [14:30] Riddell: So bandaids for Hardy and think hard between now an UDS? [14:31] nareshov: kdesdk-kde4 kdeutils-kde4 kdewebdev-kde4 kdenetwork-kde4 (network needs new decibel) [14:31] ScottK: guess so [14:31] * Riddell out for a bit [14:31] Riddell: My plan then for the crash I'm currently experiencing is to trap the error and then push things in the correct direction so this problem is solved, but there should be no regression risk for others. [14:32] I'll upload that at the same time I upload the mountconfig change after Alpha 6 === _czessi is now known as Czessi [14:51] Riddell: sory about the delay, got distracted with some other issues. It builds fine for me here using 4.0.1 (in pbuilder) what do I need to do now? [14:51] gah, he has left for a bit. oh well ill wait [14:57] hunger: Whoot Eva :) [14:57] hunger: give her a hug next time you see her [14:58] DaSkreech: You know her? [14:58] Does that make a difference? :) [14:59] DaSkreech: I guess it will make one to her. [14:59] Naw People love random acts of kindness [15:00] * jussi01 hugs DaSkreech [15:01] Oy now wot's all this eh? [15:01] 19:46 < Riddell> nareshov: kdesdk-kde4 kdeutils-kde4 kdewebdev-kde4 kdenetwork-kde4 (network needs new decibel) [15:01] Done! [15:01] * nareshov too hugs DaSkreech [15:02] Boy if I had a hug for everytime I got hugged... [15:02] DaSkreech: recursion alert! [15:16] hunger: That recursion I can handle :) [15:18] hi jussi01 [15:18] Riddell: hei [15:19] Riddell: So what is the next step after building fine? do I need to install and test? or upload somewhere? [15:20] * jussi01 hasnt done ackaging for a bit [15:20] jussi01: did you change the version number and set gutsy in changelog? [15:20] jussi01: what's your launchpad username? [15:20] Riddell: jussi01 [15:21] Riddell: no, I havent changed the version number, but I did set gutsy [15:21]