[00:00] <ubuntu> !grub
[00:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:02] <stefanov> anyone here that can help me with one konsole command?
[00:02] <BluesKaj> which is ?
[00:03] <matthew> Adept->Manage Repositories is greyed out.. how can I get to it?
[00:04] <matthew> i c.. every time i try to open it, it says another process is using the packaging system.
[00:04] <yago> hi, does anyone know how to configure Compiz-Fusion?
[00:04] <SlimeyPete> !compiz
[00:04] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:04] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | matthew
[00:04] <ubotu> matthew: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:05] <BluesKaj> stefanov, what is the command ?
[00:07] <ghostcube> guys any idea why the Sysrq key commands not working on gutsy o_O
[00:07] <BluesKaj> bbl
[00:08] <matthew> BluesKaj: ok.. it seems to have done a lot.. of somethings...
[00:08] <matthew> maybe i should reboot now..
[00:08] <stefanov> blueskaj to search for some updates
[00:09] <stefanov> blueskaj i know 2nd part of it go something like cache search "name"
[00:11] <stefanov> blueskaj ? u here ? can u asnwer ps
[00:11] <stefanov> pls
[00:13] <ghostcube> ok got it to work guys thx
[00:26] <vinny2> hi
[00:26] <nosrednaekim> hey vinny2
[00:26] <ubuntu> !grub
[00:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:26] <vinny2> i have a question with my wireless network and kubuntu
[00:26] <nosrednaekim> ok
[00:27] <vinny2> when i plug in my wireless card, i can see my network but i cant connect to it
[00:27] <vinny2> i get an error
[00:27] <nosrednaekim> what error
[00:28] <vinny2> one sec
[00:28] <vinny2> connection failure
[00:28] <vinny2> could not connect to the network linksys
[00:28] <nosrednaekim> is it an ecrypted access point?
[00:28] <vinny2> no
[00:29] <vinny2> do i need to install the drivers
[00:29] <nosrednaekim> probably not
[00:30] <vinny2> it says its connecting, up intill 28 percent then it says connection failure
[00:31] <NickPresta> Does this look incorrect to anyone? `sudo mount -t smbfs //MSHOME/MSS-0230ED/nick/ /home/backups/` I am getting 'smb_fill_super: missing data argument' is dmesg
[00:31] <nosrednaekim> vinny2» I see..... run "iwconfig" and tell me what device it says your wireless card is called (should be wlan0 or eth1" or something liek that)
[00:31] <ubuntu_> hi all
[00:31] <vinny2> iwconfig in run command?
[00:32] <mandragora> hey
[00:32] <vinny2> where do i find iwconfig
[00:32] <vinny2> sorry i only started using kubuntu yesterday
[00:33] <mandragora> i need some help installing my kubuntu
[00:33] <mandragora> hola?
[00:33] <nosrednaekim> vinny2» uhh sorry, I have to og
[00:33] <mandragora> hey!
[00:33] <nosrednaekim> !wireless | vinny2 read this though
[00:33] <ubotu> vinny2 read this though: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:33] <vinny2> its wlan1
[00:33] <mandragora> ¬¬
[00:33] <nosrednaekim> sorry....
[00:33] <vinny2> i mean wlan0
[00:35] <mandragora> can anyone help me?
[00:35] <atomicpotato> I have an album in FLAC + CUE format, is there a tool on Linux that I can use to split it into multiple FLACs?
[00:36] <vinny2> mandragora what version is it
[00:36] <mandragora> i don't really know... but i think it's gutsy gibbon... 7.1?
[00:36] <drarem> how can I echo something to another terminal and press the enter key, kinda of like this..   echo 'ls -lh ~' > /dev/pts1
[00:37] <vinny2> i have 8.04
[00:37] <vinny2> if u have that, u can install it under windows
[00:37] <ubuntu>  /dev/sda4 is my boot/root partition.. /dev/sda1 is my windows partition.. http://rafb.net/p/hFGwsy55.html what is wrong on this /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[00:37] <vinny2> but its not 100% stable
[00:37] <vinny2> ubuntu can u help me with my wireless network
[00:38] <mandragora> i couldn't... i's to run linux from it's live cd and from there install it... but i'm trying and i'm not being able...
[00:38] <vinny2> what os do u have installed now
[00:38] <atomicpotato> never mind then... I found it myself.... no thanks to the channel
[00:38] <mandragora> XP
[00:39] <vinny2> ok, find 8.04 live cd, download it in xp. When ur done burning the disc, run it, under xp and it will let u install it in xp
[00:39] <vinny2> thats what i did
[00:40] <mandragora> ok... i'll try
[00:40] <vinny2> its easy to set up, no having to partion, and it is self installing almost
[00:40] <Daisuke_Ido> hardy is still alpha, it should not be recommended to new users.
[00:40] <vinny2> i like the fact, u can install it and uninstall it under xp
[00:40] <vinny2> no partioning
[00:40] <mandragora> does it have the latest KDE version?
[00:40] <vinny2> no
[00:40] <vinny2> it has 3. something
[00:40] <vinny2> it doesnt have 4
[00:41] <vinny2> but it has the most up to date version of 3
[00:41] <vinny2> is it ok if i give him the link of a website?
[00:41] <vinny2> i dont want to break any rules
[00:42] <mandragora> but as daisuke said, will be hard to me? i mean... this version is much difficult i've been 3 days ttrying to connect to internet
[00:42] <ubuntu> mandragora: 3.5.9 is used on 8.04 by default, there also is a kde4 version but i would really not reccomend you to use it since you seem to be new to kubuntu/linux
[00:42] <vinny2> its my first time using ubuntu to, but ubuntu is an expert
[00:43] <ubuntu> =O geez thanks.. i woulnt call myself an expert lol
[00:43] <vinny2> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Kubuntu-Hardy-Heron-32978.shtml
[00:43] <vinny2> thats the link to 8.04
[00:43] <vinny2> that i used
[00:43] <mandragora> yeah ubuntu, i don't know anything about linux but i've rread that this verison of linux is the most friendly becouse of the KDE enviroment...
[00:44] <vinny2> i wish i could use ubuntu, but when ever i install it, and boot it up for the first time, it says installion failed
[00:44] <vinny2> only kubuntu worked when i installed it
[00:44] <vinny2> xubuntu said it failed
[00:44] <mandragora> but the unix is so hard to me that i must read lot of tutorials for doing almost everything
[00:44] <ubuntu> kubuntu looks more like windows as ubuntu, thats why kde is more easy to most new users
[00:45] <mandragora> i couldn't even run the xubuntu live cd
[00:45] <vinny2> kde 4 is almost like windows vista, only faster, smarter, and better
[00:45] <vinny2> :)
[00:45] <vinny2> dont run the live cd
[00:45] <mandragora> ;P
[00:45] <vinny2> run the cd in windows
[00:45] <vinny2> and it will guide u though how to install
[00:46] <vinny2> and it will keep windows intact
[00:46] <vinny2> so u can uninstall kubuntu is u dont like it
[00:46] <mandragora> lol, it was useless, and so it is the cd of kubuntu on windows, it says why i should have it..
[00:46] <vinny2> it installs it under windows, but when u boot up it says boot windows or boot kubuntu
[00:47] <mandragora> and this version, i mean the one i have can be installed on windows?
[00:47] <vinny2> yes
[00:47] <vinny2> and uninstalled in windows
[00:47] <mandragora> how?
[00:47] <vinny2> really easily
[00:47] <vinny2> idk, it just does
[00:47] <Dr_willis> I beliuve that is using the 'wubi' install method.
[00:47] <Dr_willis> which is putting a large file thats a virtual drive that it boots/runs from
[00:47] <vinny2> thanks you dr willis
[00:48] <Dr_willis> I dident think that was in Gutsy however..
[00:48] <vinny2> its in 8.04
[00:48] <vinny2> i dont know how to install it any other way
[00:48] <Dr_willis> Thats Pre-releae-alpha stuff..
[00:48] <vinny2> im too afraid of ruining windows
[00:48] <vinny2> not its alpha 5
[00:48] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  this is why one does backups. :)
[00:48] <vinny2> i dont have an exturnal drive
[00:48] <Dr_willis> i keep linux on its own hard drive. Makes it much easier to install. I dont use external drives for installing
[00:49] <mandragora> wich is the latest, but when i downloaded kubuntu was alpha, so i thought it would have had lot of bugs and chrases,,,
[00:49] <vinny2> im so impressed with kubuntu, i have a 6 year old laptop and it runs fine
[00:49] <Dr_willis> WUBI can have its own set of... issues..
[00:49] <vinny2> and i only have 256mb of ram
[00:49] <vinny2> like what
[00:49] <Dorwin6> Hi guys, do u know where is the kubuntu source list ?
[00:49] <Dr_willis> Like it dont work very well for a lot of people.
[00:49] <ZeroOhm> can someone give me a good IRC channel for ubuntu?
[00:49] <Dr_willis> I dont use it, and i dont reccomnd using wibu
[00:49] <Dr_willis> ZeroOhm,  #ubuntu ?
[00:49] <Dorwin6> ZeroOhm : #ubuntu
[00:49] <vinny2> wubi failed to install ubuntu, and xubuntu, but i have install kubuntu with it about 6 times and it worked every time
[00:50] <ubuntu>  /dev/sda4 is my boot/root partition.. /dev/sda1 is my windows partition.. http://rafb.net/p/hFGwsy55.html what is wrong on this /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  makes you wonder why it failed.  The 3 are using the same installer program.
[00:50] <vinny2> i think it has to do with my hardware and gmone
[00:50] <Jucato> ubuntu: sda4 = (hd0,3)
[00:51] <vinny2> 6 year old laptops, cant teach an old pc new tricks... or in this case the os i really want
[00:51] <ubuntu> jucato: i love you <3
[00:51] <Jucato> heh :)
[00:51] <vinny2> i also like gos but i want to install it in wibi, not though a comand line
[00:51] <Daisuke_Ido> vinny2: gnome isn't going to make the install fail.
[00:51] <Dr_willis> you can install the gos packages on any ubuntu system easially enough.
[00:51] <vinny2> well why would ubuntu, edubuntu, and xubuntu fail
[00:51] <vinny2> how do i install gos
[00:52] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  now ya know why i dont look forward for WUBI being ofiaially on the next release
[00:52] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you want to is the better question...
[00:52] <ubuntu> jucato: from all the times i asked on this chat u was 99% of the time the person to help me out =) thanks
[00:52] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  the gos web site lists the proper repos to enable and packages to install.
[00:52] <Jucato> I was? wow! you're very much welcome :)
[00:52] <Dr_willis> theres also the geubuntu variant
[00:52] <vinny2> because i like my mac, because of the dock, and i want it on my laptop
[00:52] <vinny2> what package
[00:52] <vinny2> debien
[00:52] <vinny2> or something like that
[00:53] <Dr_willis> The gos-desktop metapackage most lilkely ONCE you enable the proper gos repositories
[00:53] <Dorwin6> can anyone tell me where is the source list in kubuntu
[00:53] <Dr_willis> Dorwin6,  /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:53] <Jucato> Dorwin6: /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:53] <vinny2> grrr, i hate having to find things
[00:53] <Dorwin6> thanks
[00:53] <mandragora> hey there
[00:53] <vinny2> its such a pain
[00:53] <mandragora> this is the problem...
[00:53] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  if wanting to use gos - it is worth wile to read the info at their web site.
[00:53] <mandragora> the partition
[00:53] <mandragora> i had my disk partition on windows...ç
[00:53] <vinny2> where can i find, ec/apt/sources, just to know
[00:53] <vinny2> i also want kde 4 but i need to no where that is
[00:54] <mandragora> but i don't know about it...
[00:54] <vinny2> lol i want it all
[00:54] <Daisuke_Ido> vinny2: /etc/sources.list
[00:54] <Jucato> /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:54] <vinny2> thanks
[00:54] <Daisuke_Ido> oopsie
[00:54] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[00:54] <mandragora> HEYYY!
[00:54] <vinny2> now only if i could get my wifi to work i would be 100% content
[00:55] <vinny2> i can see my network and everything, but when i try to connect, it says connection failure
[00:55] <Dr_willis> I find the gos/geubuntu stuff to be a bit over hyped for what it does.
[00:55] <vinny2> i have to use ethernet... grrr
[00:55] <Jucato> gos and geubuntu are 2 different distros I think
[00:55] <vinny2> or worst.... windows
[00:56] <Dr_willis> i alwyays run wires.
[00:56] <vinny2> but i have a laptop
[00:56] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  so do i. :)
[00:56] <vinny2> its nice to not have to sit at a desk
[00:56] <Dr_willis> I perfer the desk.
[00:56] <vinny2> well can u help me with my wifi
[00:56] <vinny2> do i need drivers
[00:56] <vinny2> a new card?
[00:57] <Dorwin6> what is the command to install updates ?
[00:57] <Jucato> Dr_willis: gOS is the everex one, OpenGEU (formerly geubuntu) is a different one. gOS is overhyped :)
[00:57] <Dr_willis> If im not at the desk.. im on the... err.. throne. in the reading room.. and i even have my bathroom wired with gigabit :)
[00:57] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  ive tried both the desktops.. and found them both... well.. lacking. :)
[00:57] <Jucato> Dorwin6: "sudo apt-get update" to fetch updates and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to install them
[00:57] <Dorwin6> thank you
[00:57] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I read that gOS doesn't even have a GUI text editor :)
[00:57] <Dr_willis> somthing aobut  the 'lets claim to be super-light desktop  but include all this eyecandy that makes the whole system sluggush!' :)
[00:58] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  ive only installed them on top of a ubuntu system. So not sure how their defaults are.
[00:58] <Dr_willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-gos-on-ubuntukubuntuxubuntu.html
[00:58] <Jucato> (in fairness, E17's effects are quite minimal compared to Compiz and a lot lot faster)
[00:58] <vinny2> is there such thing as wifi cards compatible with kubuntu
[00:58] <Jucato> !wifi
[00:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:58] <vinny2> i tried that ubotu
[00:59] <Jucato> if it works in Ubuntu, it should work in Kubuntu as well since they use the same backend (networkmanager)
[00:59] <Dr_willis> E17 used to be the big bloated thing.. and really the special effects are not that special. :) In fact its downright ugly at times.. if i want light- i will stick with jwm i guess.
[00:59] <vinny2> idk if it works in ubuntu
[00:59] <vinny2> i dont have ubuntu
[00:59] <Dr_willis> E17 the window manager thats reinvented itself 1000 times .
[00:59] <vinny2> whats wallet do?
[00:59] <vinny2> sry i just started using kubuntu yesterday
[01:00] <vinny2> im used to dsl 4
[01:00] <Jucato> keeps your passwords for convenience
[01:00] <vinny2> thanks
[01:00] <mandragora> hey i need
[01:00] <mandragora> some help
[01:00] <mandragora> please
[01:00] <mandragora> anyone speaks spanish?
[01:00] <Jucato> !es | mandragora
[01:00] <ubotu> mandragora: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:00] <vinny2> i have to say though, over looking the wifi problems, i think kubuntu is alot better then windows both xp and vista
[01:01] <vinny2> i dp
[01:01] <Stoffer> is there a gui-based app available that will convert xvid avi's to Dvd?  I found command based instructions on linux.com, but they're only for a single file.  I've got around 30 files, and I'd rather not end up with 30 dvd's.
[01:01] <vinny2> mandragora what can i do for u
[01:01] <walter> oi
[01:01] <walter> algum entende portugues
[01:01] <Jucato> !pt | walter
[01:01] <vinny2> install kubuntu under linux yet?
[01:01] <ubotu> walter: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:01] <ubuntu> jucato: didnt seem to work.. getting error saying it cant load the partition
[01:01] <vinny2> what didnt work
[01:01] <walter> ok
[01:01] <Jucato> are you sure it's in sda4?
[01:01] <walter> obrigado
[01:02] <mandragora> compress françoise?
[01:02] <vinny2> english
[01:02] <mandragora> just a test...!
[01:02] <vinny2> plz
[01:02] <mandragora> lol
[01:02] <Jucato> Stoffer: you can try searching in www.kde-apps.org
[01:02] <vinny2> how did u do that lol
[01:02] <Stoffer> cool
[01:02] <Stoffer> thanks
[01:02] <Dr_willis> Stoffer,  ive used DeVeDe befor for that
[01:03] <Dr_willis> Stoffer,  theres other front ends also.
[01:03] <vinny2> now mandragora what can i do u for?
[01:03] <vinny2> how do i install gnome in kubuntu
[01:04] <vinny2> is there such a thing
[01:04] <Jucato> install the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[01:04] <vinny2> how
[01:04] <Dragnslcr> Adept, apt-get
[01:04] <vinny2> also how do i open kmail
[01:04] <Dragnslcr> Whatever else you use for package management
[01:04] <vinny2> i cant find it
[01:05] <Jucato> kmail is in Kontact
[01:05] <vinny2> oh
[01:05] <vinny2> thanks
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> heya Jucato WB
[01:05] <vinny2> im a noob
[01:05] <Dr_willis> I think some reading of the KDE  and Linux beginner guides would be helpfull. :)
[01:05] <Jucato> hi nosrednaekim!
[01:05] <vinny2> im not new to linux, just kde and kubuntu
[01:05] <Jucato> the the KDE/Kubuntu guides :)
[01:05] <vinny2> lol, i feel stupid now
[01:06] <vinny2> all these years of linux, and im reading a manual
[01:06] <Dr_willis> years of linux and you  cant figure out kde? :)
[01:06] <vinny2> i have never used it
[01:06] <Jucato> can't believe you haven't run into KDE all these years :)
[01:06] <vinny2> again, dsl
[01:06] <vinny2> damn small linux
[01:07] <Jucato> yeah, but not even once? just once? :)
[01:07] <vinny2> its only like 50mb so its striped down
[01:07] <Dr_willis> sounds like your linux experience is very small like your disrto.
[01:07] <ubuntu> Jucato: http://rafb.net/p/ep9dLW69.html this is a list of my partitions http://rafb.net/p/t6DaX784.html this is my current menu.lst
[01:07] <Dr_willis> :) and yes i use dsl at times also.
[01:07] <vinny2> no, i dont no how to install with out desrupting windows
[01:07] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  all these years and you never tried eh?
[01:07] <Jucato> ubuntu: sda4 is a swap partition.. it's not your boot partition
[01:07] <vinny2> untill wubi
[01:07] <vinny2> well i have tried normal ubuntu with the live cd
[01:08] <vinny2> and knoppix, witch i think is kde
[01:08] <vinny2> but i only used the live cd
[01:08] <vinny2> never installed it
[01:08] <Dr_willis> knoppix can come with other desktops as well.
[01:08] <ubuntu> jucato: sda3 is the boot/root partition
[01:08] <Jucato> ubuntu: in fact, you don't have a boot partition. only a root partition (which would include /boot) at sda3 (hd0,2)
[01:08] <Dr_willis> slax is another nice live cd.
[01:08] <vinny2> i think i used kill bill slax
[01:08] <vinny2> once
[01:08] <vinny2> live cd
[01:08] <vinny2> but it does have wubi so i dont no how to install it
[01:08] <mandragora> hey thanks to all... i love u!
[01:08] <Jucato> ubuntu: yeah. sda3, not sda4 as you previously said. sda3 = hd0,2
[01:09] <vinny2> doesnt*
[01:09] <Dr_willis> NEw release of slax just came out this month. they have done a lot of cleanup on it.
[01:09] <ubuntu> jucato: sda1 = hd0,0 sda2 = hd0,1 sda3 = hd0.2 and so on?
[01:09] <Dr_willis> You dont want to know what i think of Wubi.
[01:09] <Jucato> ubuntu: yes
[01:09] <vinny2> u already told me
[01:09] <ubuntu> jucato: thanks ;)
[01:09] <Dr_willis> I imagine the decision to include wubi.. will come to haunt the tech support channels.
[01:09] <vinny2> no, its soo easy
[01:09] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  WHEN it works.
[01:09] <vinny2> i love being able to uninstall and take back my partion with ease
[01:10] <vinny2> without hurting windows
[01:10] <Jucato> ubuntu:  sdb1 would be hd1,0...  "a" = 0, "b" = 1, "c" = 2, etc
[01:10] <Dr_willis> I can do that with a normal install vinny2  :)
[01:10] <vinny2> but i cant
[01:10] <ubuntu> jucato: lets see if it works ^.^
[01:10] <ubuntu> ahh cool
[01:10] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  you have had years to learn.. but havent tried it seems.
[01:10]  * Jucato crosses fingers
[01:10] <vinny2> i no, im affraid of damaging my pc
[01:11] <Dr_willis> i did get slax isntalled/booting off my USB thumb drive last week. :) which is nifty
[01:11] <vinny2> if i brake it, i cant afford a new one
[01:11] <Dr_willis> vinny2,  this is why we have backups.
[01:11] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[01:11] <vinny2> no exturnal
[01:11] <Daisuke_Ido> you're not going to "break" your pc.
[01:11] <Dr_willis> now we have gone full circle in this discussion.
[01:11] <vinny2> by break i mean, screw up windows
[01:12] <Dr_willis> You have had years to learn it.. but are afraid to learn.. and now you are using a Pre-release version of kubuntu. thats asking for problems
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> you are aware that you don't have to buy a new computer if windows screws up, right?
[01:12] <Jucato> unless you don't have an extra partition, there's no reason why your Windows will be touched at all
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> hardy? whew boy :)
[01:12] <vinny2> and my only other pc is my gaming rig, witch doesnt have word or anything so if thats all i have left i cant get any work down
[01:12] <vinny2> and my mac, is for work
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: yeah, he's recommending that complete newbies switch to hardy so they can use wubi (a poor decision on the devs' part)
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> you can't put a word processor on the other pc?
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> whoa... who is reccomending that?
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: our buddy vinny here :)
[01:13] <vinny2> well, i dont want to, its built for speed in games, not word
[01:13] <vinny2> i have to keep it clean, because of my cs team
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> and i've just heard everything i need to
[01:14]  * Daisuke_Ido washes his hands of this one
[01:14] <vinny2> u made him leave
[01:14] <vinny2> nosrednaekim
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, his connection's been having problems today
[01:14] <vinny2> lol
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> and also
[01:14] <vinny2> im jk
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !u
[01:14] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[01:14] <vinny2> u
[01:14]  * Dr_willis hits ubotu  with a flemmish ... thing...
[01:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:14] <Jucato> :)
[01:14] <vinny2> :)
[01:15] <Dr_willis> if the flemmish can do it! so can I!
[01:15]  * Daisuke_Ido is a bit grumpy tonight
[01:15] <vinny2> well thanks for your help
[01:15] <vinny2> i g2g
[01:16] <ubuntu> Jucato: same error..
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> the good news is that hardcore counterstrike players - like lawyers - have their personalities to keep them from procreating :D
[01:16] <Dr_willis> Im still dreading all the WUBI  questions we are going to get here in a few weeks/month.
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: agreed.  it'll be a headache at best.  how many of the people that are here on a regular basis can or will actually test out wubi to know how to help get past problems?
[01:18] <ubuntu_> hi! i've just booted a Hardy livecd on a new machine.  the livecd environment seems not to contain the rudimentary include files like sys/types.h etc. -- is there an apt command that installs them?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> Theres a lot not included on the live cd.  :) due to size reasons.
[01:18] <ubuntu_> i can understand that, certainly!
[01:19] <ubuntu_> apt-get seems to do a good job of fetching them, even if i don't know quite where they are going (ram disk?)
[01:19] <ubuntu_> but i couldn't quite figure out where these include files should come from
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu_: try in #ubuntu+1 - this channel is for dapper through gutsy support.  also, why would you compile anything on a live cd environment?
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu_: build-essential is probably the package you're looking for
[01:19] <ubuntu_> the reason is, i am trying to rescue my other linux installation:  the new motherboard has an IDE controller which is rather new, and i need to compile a crucial kernel module
[01:19] <Dr_willis> of course all this stuff gets downloaded/installed to ram...
[01:20] <Dr_willis> So new its not in hardy. egads thats new.
[01:20] <ubuntu_> oh no, it is in hardy... but my other installation is gentoo
[01:20] <drarem> can i send a command to another terminal?  echo 'ls -lh .' > /dev/pts/2
[01:20] <ubuntu_> the trouble is that the gentoo livecd is not new enough to have it!
[01:20] <ubuntu_> the fact that it's in hardy is exactly how i managed to get booted at all
[01:20] <Dr_willis> you could boot the hardy live cd and access the files perhaps?
[01:20] <ubuntu_> yes, that i can do
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu_: yeah, you're going to want build-essential, maybe use some chroot magic
[01:21] <ubuntu_> but then there is another problem:  i cannot chroot, because that system is 64-bit, and the 64-bit hardy livecd didn't work (why?)
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> but after that, i'm lost
[01:21] <ubuntu_> i think (hope!) building in the 32-bit environment will do the trick though:  thanks for the pointer to build-essential
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> um...
[01:22] <cpk1> ubuntu_: you could mount one of your partitions and tell apt to download to there as well
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> you're compiling a 32-bit kernel module to use with a 64-bit kernel?
[01:22] <ubuntu_> no, i will compile it 64-bit of course
[01:23] <ubuntu_> but cross compile from this 32-bit environment (or do i miss some reason this won't work?)
[01:24] <ubuntu> okay.. that was smart.. edit a file, close the file, reboot to see if it works.. (forget to save the file)
[01:29] <prince_jammys> !tell prince_jammys about compiz
[01:30] <Dr_willis> ubuntu :) see now Windows would of nagged you 100 times to save the file!
[01:32] <Dr_willis> 'are you sure that you are sure that you are sure that you do NOT , dont want to not save that file that you just looked at.. but dident really edit'
[01:33] <zak> ps aux | grep-i kopete
[01:33] <zak> ps aux
[01:42] <Corty> cya *
[01:53] <Makuseru> how can i get amarok to play .wav files?
[01:54] <Dorwin6> can anyone help me through compiz ?
[01:55] <Makuseru> Dorwin6: try the #compiz-fusion room
[01:55] <Dorwin6> Makuseru : no one is available to answer atm
[01:55] <Makuseru> ah
[02:05] <Y-Town> Anyone know what I can do to get rid of this error everytime I open dolphin or konquerer "Could not find mime type   application/octet-stream"
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> Y-Town» kcontrol->kde components->file associations
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> and find octect-stream
[02:07] <Y-Town> nosrednaekim: thats where I was and I cant find anything in the applications for octect-stream
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> ah...thats probably the problem then :)
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> don't know know how to fix that though
[02:09] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, afaik amarok will play wav files without any configuration required, plays them by default. Describe your problem with wav files .
[02:09] <Y-Town> Me either  :o(
[02:09] <Y-Town> I was trying to get vnc as default dvd player and this is where I'm at now
[02:09] <alanna> hi there I am trying to install a package using deb and I have written: dpkg -i packagename.deb
[02:10] <alanna> i get: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:10] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: it says "Error playing media: There is no avalible decoder"
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> alanna» ok.... #1, you need sudo for that to work
[02:10] <alanna> nosrednaekim: yes I used sudo
[02:10] <alanna> sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[02:11] <alanna> that's what i used
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> alanna» are you using apt-get.. or adept or something like that?
[02:11] <Y-Town> nosrednaekim: Where is the go back 2 hours ago everything was fine button?   :o)
[02:11] <BluesKaj> Makuseru,  sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> lol.... its called "remember what you did"
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> alanna» I mean... at the same time.
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> if not....
[02:12] <alanna> nope
[02:12] <alanna> it's weird, nothing should be locking it up
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[02:12] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:12] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.
[02:13] <alanna> oh thanks nosrednaekim that worked
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> Makuseru» settings->engine in amarok says you are using what engine?
[02:14] <Y-Town> nosrednaekim: I wish it was thats easy.....  I'm having a hard time remebering 5 minutes ago...its an age thing I guess
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[02:14] <Makuseru> nosrednaekim: xine
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> write what you do down if you are a newish user 1) you can tell support what you did recently and 2) if you are fixing something, you know what to do if you have to fix it again
[02:15] <Y-Town> nosrednaekim: If i creat another user account would I be able to see the settings in there and just copy them to my profile maybe?
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Y-Town» possibly.
[02:16] <Y-Town> I will try that
[02:16] <Dorwin6> hi dan
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> depend on the setting (but appplication bindings should be different between users)
[02:16] <Y-Town> :o)
[02:16] <Y-Town> Dorwin6: Hows everything going?
[02:16] <Dorwin6> ;) it's 2.15 am in the morning and I have class at 9am, still trying to figure out this error
[02:16] <Dorwin6> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58328/
[02:17] <Dorwin6> i did try apt-get install compiz
[02:18] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, will amarok play regular cds ?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> what driver are you using (what video card)
[02:18] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: i dont know
[02:19] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, pls try
[02:19] <Dorwin6> nosrednaekim : ATI 2400 HD
[02:19] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: honestly i dont own any audio cds, everything i have is just backed up MP3s
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> Dorwin6» hooo boy... thi is going to be complicated :)
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> Dorwin6» you need to use the latest drivers fom the ATI website.
[02:21] <heinkel_111> help --- what is teh command to start the wallet application? shouldn't it be kwallet?
[02:21] <Dr_willis> kwa<TB> shows kwalletmanager
[02:21] <Dr_willis> tab  key is oyur friend.
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> kwalletmanager from the tab key
[02:22] <heinkel_111> ah!
[02:22] <Dr_willis> bow down to the power of TAB!
[02:22] <Dr_willis> :0
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[02:22] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, perhaps these wav files arent really .wav ...try copying a couple into a seperate folder to test whether they will convert to mp3 , then convert them back to wav and try playing them , again.
[02:22] <heinkel_111> i was in momnetary panic after numerous mv .kde .kde_old mv .kde .kde 2 etc.......
[02:23] <heinkel_111> i thought i had destroyed my wallet file
[02:23]  * heinkel_111 breathes more relaxed....
[02:23] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: VLC and Kaffeine will play them
[02:24] <BluesKaj> now he tells me
[02:24] <Makuseru> Blu
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[02:24] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: i didnt think it was relavant
[02:26] <Dr_willis> wow i am no longer on insight as my isp.. im now a comcast zombie! arth!
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, sorry , I've never experienced amarok not reading wav files properly ... dunno what to tell you :(
[02:27] <Makuseru> Dr_willis: beware of the whole "excessive use" thing
[02:27] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: thats alright, thanks anyway
[02:27] <BluesKaj> no cds available to test
[02:27] <Makuseru> none
[02:27] <BluesKaj> makes it difficult
[02:28] <Dr_willis> heh :)  i just checked my old email account.. i see a letter about that from July.. it has some interesting statements about file shareing.
[02:28] <Dr_willis> Most of the file sharing applications contain "spyware" that is used by affiliates and marketing companies.
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> Makuseru» try deleting your amarok config directory
[02:28] <Dr_willis>  Right.. :) I got in trouble for sharing ubuntu isos! :)
[02:29] <Makuseru> i had a friend with comcast, he downloaded several live dvds and they cut him off
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> Makuseru» rm -r .kde/share/apps/amarok/
[02:30] <Makuseru> nosrednaekim: alright, now what
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> restart amarok
[02:30] <Dr_willis> I throttle my  Uploads to 10k/s for torrents anyway.
[02:30] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: that's not the location of configs
[02:30] <Dr_willis> thats what the isp said to do when they actually called me one day :) heh
[02:30] <Jucato> ~/.kde/share/config/ <-- config directory
[02:30] <Jucato> ~/.kde/share/apps/ <-- data directory
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> Jucato» oh yeah., true
[02:31] <Dr_willis> Plus i use ktorrents scheduler to turn the thing on  and off about every other hr.  So i guess they can complain if they want. Im not being a hog.
[02:31] <Makuseru> Dr_willis: you hog
[02:31] <Dr_willis> I know it. :)
[02:31] <Dr_willis> I just downloaded yet another Ubuntu live cd variant! :0
[02:32] <heinkel_111> My ISP has blocked my torrents :(
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> at least you are a hog who is interested in humanity towards others
[02:32]  * heinkel_111 casts a curse over american ISPs
[02:32] <Aloha> how do i list programs needed by a kde program in gnome? kmail doesn't want to run
[02:32] <Dr_willis> reading their email about the changes - gotta love --   "You’ll continue to enjoy blazing-fast speeds ... up to 10 mbps of download speed, and even faster with PowerBoost."  ------- BUT if you actually use the bandwith you will get in trouble!
[02:33] <heinkel_111> Dr_willis: my thoughts exactly!
[02:33] <Dr_willis> Wife has been watching more tv shows on hulu, and veoh lately.
[02:34] <heinkel_111> This is actually equivalent of the european gas market: every vendor wants to sell on capacity, rather than quantity
[02:34] <heinkel_111> "when hell freezes over we can deliver" but we don't assume that you will actually claim your right for delivery of those volumes
[02:35] <Dr_willis> "Comcast has partnered with McAfee, Inc. to provide our customers with a suite of McAfee products including:"
[02:35] <heinkel_111> Translated to: we can deliver 10 Mbps, and we charge for that capacity, however we assume you will never use that capacity except for small periods of time
[02:35] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, Fear Uncertainty and Doubt has become a tool the ISPs use to throttle you guys back while taking yer money
[02:35] <Dr_willis> Wow! Im sure those will be handy to use on my linux box. :)
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Of course now that stage6 is gone - i gotta look elseware for my videos. :)
[02:37] <heinkel_111> Can we get back to the kwalletmanager please? (pretending I never was part in offtopic discussion...)
[02:37] <heinkel_111> what is the default wallet file location?
[02:38] <heinkel_111> mine appears to be lost somewhere in mv .kde .kde_old
[02:39] <heinkel_111> after restoring the old .kde folder I can't find my wallet!
[02:39] <Aloha> what services do i need to have running for kmail to work in gnome?
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> Aloha» kmail hould start them if they are needed
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> *should
[02:40] <heinkel_111> Aloha: I think there is a package called kde-minimal or something like that
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> run kmail from a konsole/gnome terminal and see what it spits out
[02:40] <Aloha> nosrednaekim: a bunch of error messages
[02:40] <heinkel_111> Aloha: you need a basic kde framework
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> Aloha» pastebin the,m
[02:41] <heinkel_111> i just can't remember what the package name is
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> !patebin
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <Aloha> heinkel_111: i have kubuntu-desktop installed. it runs fine from kde
[02:41] <Aloha> oops
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[02:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:41] <Aloha> n/m
[02:41] <heinkel_111> Aloha: then I don't know
[02:42] <heinkel_111> I thought we could make a deal that I could find your package if you  could find my wallet
[02:42] <heinkel_111> what is the default wallet file location?
[02:42] <Aloha> ok pasting errors
[02:42] <Aloha> http://pastebin.ca/927212
[02:42] <Aloha> nosrednaekim: thats the error messages
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> heinkel_111: that line got me arrested once in vegas.
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> heinkel_111» probably .kde/share/apps/kwallet
[02:43] <Dr_willis> .kde/share/apps/kwallet
[02:43] <Aloha> Daisuke_Ido: LOL
[02:43] <Dr_willis> it seems
[02:44] <Dr_willis> and share/config/n‎kwalletrc
[02:44] <heinkel_111> Daisuke_Ido: ROFLMAO :D
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> i feel very lucky to have gotten back in time to say that
[02:45] <Y-Town> nosrednaekim: I created a new user account, found the setting and duplicated it... Everything worked... Thanks for the help
[02:45]  * heinkel_111 is not native english speaker but learning a little every day ;-)
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> Aloha» afraid I can't help you <_<
[02:46] <Aloha> nosrednaekim: thnx anyway
[02:46] <Aloha> at least konversation runs
[02:46] <Aloha> thats my favorite irc client
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> Y-Town» awesome :)
[02:48] <heinkel_111> Totally bummer, I apparently did manage to destroy my wallet.
[02:48] <NickPresta> Are there any other sensitive areas I should make snapshots of? I already added /usr/, /etc/, and /home/. Anything else?
[02:48] <heinkel_111> I better check my packages as well then ;-)
[02:49] <heinkel_111> NickPresta: .kde/share/apps/kwallet
[02:49] <heinkel_111> very sensitive!
[02:49] <heinkel_111> (and I am not mentioning packages!)
[02:50] <heinkel_111> NickPresta: actually everything in .kde can be nice to have in some circumstances but some stuff in there is crucial !
[02:54] <NickPresta> heinkel_111, isn't that included in /home?
[02:55] <heinkel_111> come to think of it...i think you got a point there..never mind
[02:55] <heinkel_111> NickPresta: i was just a little upset by having screwed up my _backup_ of the wallet file somehow :(
[03:09] <epimeth> YES!
[03:09] <epimeth> vpn works
[03:09]  * epimeth does the vpn-dance
[03:10] <epimeth> what??? nobody cares? :-(
[03:10]  * heinkel_111 thinks it looks weird with encypted dancing
[03:11]  * epimeth isn't actually connected to the vpn atm
[03:12] <Y-Town> anyone know a simple way to make vlc the default player for dvd movies?
[03:15]  * heinkel_111 found the wallet. locate:/ sucks!
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> awesome
[03:19] <heinkel_111> somehow locate:/ missed that i had put a copy in home/username/tmp
[03:19] <heinkel_111> (!)
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> heh
[03:28] <Jucato> heinkel_111: locate:/ (or rather slocate/locate) doen't update it's index database in real time.
[03:28] <Jucato> so either your file is too new or updatedb didn't run lately
[03:33] <sd32> when i try to boot my computer i get a "isolinux: disk error 05, ax=0000, drive=80" error
[03:35] <mixed> anyone that plays Quake III knows how to update PB??
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> try quake 3's forums
[03:37] <saki> Any clue on how to get Kubuntu to loopback your line-in to your speakers?
[03:37] <regeya> quake 3...man, I haven't played that in a while
[03:37]  * regeya eyeballs his linux box set
[03:37] <Snake> Free cake in ##aair!!!!!
[03:38] <Snake> Free cake in ##aair!!!!!
[03:38] <saki> THE CAKE IS A LIE!
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> free ban in #ubuntu!
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> or rather, kubuntu...
[03:38] <Jucato> yeah but he's gone...
[03:38] <saki> !ntfs
[03:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i just missed a golden opportunity :\
[03:38] <saki> Which one is that?
[03:38] <Snake> No its not!
[03:38] <Snake> Furreelze, free cake
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> it returns.
[03:38] <saki> Umm...+b?
[03:38] <Snake> :)
[03:39] <Jucato> just in case
[03:39] <saki> Heya Jucato
[03:39] <saki> Long time no see
[03:39] <Jucato> ey
[03:39] <saki> Wait, why am I saki?
[03:40] <neosaki> So, nobody here do audio loopbacks?
[03:41] <Roey> hey all, hey Jucato!
[03:41] <Jucato> Roey!!
[03:42] <Roey> Jucato!!
[03:42] <Roey> hey
[03:42] <neosaki> 'Lo Roey
[03:42] <Roey> hey neosaki
[03:50] <neosaki> !loopback
[03:50] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:50] <neosaki> !Internet
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <rewati> i have installed alsa and still i am not getting sound on my laptop can anybudy help me
[03:56] <neosaki> Well, this is fun.
[03:56] <neosaki> I'm trying to get another computer to connect through this linux one to my internet connection.
[03:57] <neosaki> So, PC2 -> WOPR -> Homenetwork + Interwebz
[04:04] <matthew_> what packages do i need to compile a new kernel?
[04:06] <mneptok> matthew_: why do you think you need to compile a kernel?
[04:07] <matthew_> no module for my sound
[04:07] <matthew_> previous kubuntu version had it, but not 7.10...
[04:08] <matthew_> hardy has it too.. but just not 7.10
[04:08] <yao_ziyuan> ktorrent can't open downloaded folders that containing chinese chars
[04:08] <yao_ziyuan> i suggest ubuntu uses the official bittorrent client
[04:13] <matthew_> mneptok: scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:312: error: ‘KEY_RESIZE’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[04:13] <matthew_> and kubuntu has no /proc/config.gz   (every distro should have that!)
[04:14] <rewati> i have installed alsa and still i am not getting sound on my laptop can anybudy help me
[04:14] <rewati> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[04:14] <rewati> is my sound card
[04:14] <matthew_> rewati: mine too.. that's what I am try to rebuild the kernel for.
[04:15] <rewati> ok do i need to recompile my kernel
[04:15] <matthew_> It worked fine in 7.04 and in Hardy... but not in 7.10
[04:15] <rewati> matthew_ ok do i need to recompile my kernel
[04:15] <matthew_> that just didn't even include the kernel module
[04:15] <matthew_> rewati: according to a google post.. and, appearantly, yes.
[04:15] <matthew_> the module isn't there.. they just left it out, appearantly.
[04:16] <rewati> matthew_ can u give me sm link so that i can do that
[04:16] <matthew_> rewati: on most distros, it's a simple process.. but I am right now trying to figure it out on kubuntu.. they've got something different going on...
[04:16] <matthew_> that i don't understand yet
[04:17] <rewati> ok
[04:17] <rewati> i am using ubuntu but i have installed kbuntu on it so i think it shoud be same
[04:19] <rewati> matthew_ i am using ubuntu but i have installed kbuntu on it so i think it shoud be same
[04:20] <matthew_> rewati: normally (but not with (k)ubuntu), you just: cd /usr/src/linux; zcat /proc/config.gz >.config; make menuconfig; make; make install
[04:20] <matthew_> and, if upgrading, you add a "make mrproper" before make menuconfig
[04:21] <matthew_> but i am getting errors even with make menuconfig
[04:24] <rewati> matthew_  i don have /proc/config.gz
[04:25] <matthew_> rewati: correct.. sadly, they didn't select that option when building the kernel.
[04:25] <user1> Hello all
[04:26] <rewati> matthew_  so wat to do now
[04:26] <matthew_> rewati: but the kernel source package does appear to have a .config already in it
[04:26] <matthew_> rewati: I don't know.. i am googling for the answer..
[04:26] <rewati> there are two source 1 is generic which one to go with
[04:26] <rewati> mathew_ there are two source 1 is generic which one to go with
[04:27] <rewati> matthew_ there are two source 1 is generic which one to go with
[04:27] <user1> Blah blah
[04:50] <Erickj92> i just installed Ubuntu along side Kubuntu, but Ubuntu is not showing up in my grub menu
[04:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> uh
[04:51] <qmr> Hey, how do I copy a CD on the fly in k3b ??
[04:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> did you install the ubuntu-desktop package?
[04:51] <Erickj92> the what??
[04:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> how did you install ubuntu alongside kubuntu
[04:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> you are aware it's the same OS with a different desktop environment, right?  there's no need for two installations
[04:52] <Erickj92> i used the guided install to resize my harddrive, and let it do its thing
[04:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> that was pointless
[04:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:53] <Erickj92> but i want KDE and GNOME
[04:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> you'll HAVE kde and gnome
[04:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> you select what you want from the login screen
[04:53] <Erickj92> i see
[04:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> trust me, it's a much better use of space - you can keep settings between the two, share the same home directory
[04:54] <Erickj92> i dont really want to share the same home directory
[04:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> i flip back and forth between gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox, enlightenment, whatever i feel like at the time
[04:54] <Erickj92> i want 2 different computers, basically
[04:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah...
[04:55] <Erickj92> really?
[04:55] <Erickj92> so should i just delete the partition with Ubuntu on it, and resize the partition with Kubuntu on it?
[04:56] <Erickj92> or, what can i do at this point?
[04:58] <Erickj92> Diasuke, what can i do now?
[04:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> sorry, checking on dinner
[04:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, i don't know why grub wouldn't show the other - possibly because they're the same kernel maybe?  should have been something...
[04:59] <Erickj92> i see
[04:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> but that's what i would personally recommend, deleting and resizing
[04:59] <Erickj92> well im in gparted and see that i can get rid of Ubuntu
[04:59] <Erickj92> but it wont let me resize the partition with Kubuntu on it
[04:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, that you'll have to do from the livecd
[04:59] <Erickj92> ahh, i see
[05:00] <Erickj92> how long will you be here?
[05:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> not long tonight
[05:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> bout to eat dinner, watch a movie and go to bed
[05:00] <Erickj92> ok
[05:00] <Erickj92> well if your not here, ill just try to get some one else
[05:01] <Erickj92> so its: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[05:01] <qmr> How do I copy a CD on the fly in ubuntu?
[05:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> right
[05:01] <Erickj92> ok
[05:01] <Erickj92> or: sudo apt-get install xubunut-desktop
[05:41] <oneeyedelf1> how do I stop all unknown file associations from opening in kwrite from konqueror when browsing the web
[05:41] <oneeyedelf1> *when a website doesn't send the mimetype
[05:50] <SilentDis> hello :)
[05:51] <SilentDis> i think i'm making this harder than it is.  i have no floppy drive on my machine, and am looking to update the bios.  I pulled a bootCD ISO file, got the bios update stuff, just need to add these 2 files to the ISO, and burn it.
[05:52] <SilentDis> burning it, obviously isn't a problem.  just need some way to actually add files to it.  is it possible to mount it and add them, or some such?
[05:56] <pnukeid> hi
[05:56] <SilentDis> greetings
[05:56] <pnukeid> i try to install apache&php with deb, but install mysql with source, can i connect php with this mysql ?
[05:57] <SilentDis> yes, but i am unsure how.  bug the folks over in #ubuntu-server or in #apache, they'll be apt to have that info :)
[05:58] <pnukeid> ok thx
[06:04] <Pendeta> When I run tracert on any external url I get all stars except for the first and last line. Is this the fault of my ISP or a problem with my computer?
[06:06] <SilentDis> Pendeta: sounds like the machine is actually reaching the remote server, but something is blocking in between, does it happen to everything you traceroute to?
[06:09] <Pendeta> SilentDis, yes. However, most web pages still load in Firefox. But I have one website (my own) I cannot connect to in any way. For that web site I usually get all stars except for the first line.
[06:10] <Pendeta> ...when using tracert/
[06:10] <SilentDis> Pendeta: whom are you using for an isp?
[06:12] <Pendeta> SilentDis, Telkomnet, an Indonesian ISP.
[06:12] <SilentDis> Pendeta: hmm... no idea on that one.  i know comcast blocks in some areas in the US, for example, same with verizon.
[06:13] <Pendeta> SilentDis, what do they block and why?
[06:14] <SilentDis> Pendeta: they block because they think it's 'hacking' to do stuff like that, or they don't want their networks responding and 'wasting' bandwidth.  i herd a multitude of answers from the comcast guys when i was using them.
[06:15] <Erickj92> how do i install kiba-dock?
[06:16] <SilentDis> !kiba-dock
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <SilentDis> !info kiba-dock
[06:16] <ubotu> Package kiba-dock does not exist in gutsy
[06:16] <prince_jammys> Erickj92: there's directions online. it's not available through apt
[06:16] <Erickj92> none of the onlinse things work
[06:16] <Erickj92> ive tried a ton of them
[06:16] <SilentDis> ahh, that explains why ubotu knows nothing :)  thank you prince_jammys :)
[06:17] <Pendeta> SilentDis, ok. Many thanks!
[06:17] <Erickj92> i knew there wasnt a apt for it
[06:17] <prince_jammys> Erickj92: i remember doing it with feisty, but i haven't tried with gutsy.   did you try kooldock?
[06:17] <Erickj92> kooldock doesnt have the effects
[06:17] <Erickj92> i like the kiba effects
[06:18] <prince_jammys> the bouncing?
[06:18] <Erickj92> yeah, and the flying
[06:18] <prince_jammys> because it does do the zoom thing
[06:18] <Erickj92> kooldock was alright. i just love the awesome effects that kiba-dock has
[06:19] <prince_jammys> yeah, it was pretty cool.  i remember i also tried a few howtos, but only one worked
[06:19] <Erickj92> they all seem to give some kind of error that stops me dead in my tracks
[06:20] <prince_jammys> isn't kiba-dock written by Amaranth?  sometimes you can catch him at #ubuntu
[06:20] <prince_jammys> i may be wrong on that, but it might have been him who wrote it
[06:21] <prince_jammys> he was on last night
[06:22] <Erickj92> ill have to look into that sometimes
[06:22] <Erickj92> right now, its bed time
[06:22] <prince_jammys> actually now that i think  of it, it may have written by Akamaru.  Amaranth did 'alacarte'
[06:22] <Erickj92> bye
[06:22] <prince_jammys> bye
[06:23] <Kano> Riddell: could you fix the kde4 iso that at least cookies work with konqueor
[06:27] <Frijolie> is KDE4 going to be in 8.04?
[06:28] <Frijolie> don't everyone answer all at once!
[06:32] <andrew_> im in 8.04, and it wasnt installed by default
[06:46] <Y-Town> does google have a desktop search tool for linux?
[06:52] <sickz> hola, tengo un duda con ubuntu, alguien podria ayudarme?
[07:00] <prince_jammys> !es | sickz
[07:00] <ubotu> sickz: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:02] <comp5> i've installed  printer hp 3550 in windows xp...i want to print through my other networked linux (OP) computers.. pliz help
[07:06] <comp5> hello
[07:06] <comp5> anyone who cvan assist me
[07:07] <prince_jammys> comp5: try #ubuntu
[07:44] <crackhead_25> can anyone help me get my printer to work?
[07:44] <crackhead_25> it was working fine a few days ago, before i did a feisty to gutsy upgrade.. arghhhhhhhh
[07:58] <Pendeta> Is there a Kubuntu server edition?
[08:17] <sarah__> Pendeta: its kubuntu cause it has KDE, server editinos have no desktop enviornment
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> sarah__, server one (I believe uses gnome)
[08:18] <sarah__> ah wierd i thought the point of those is when you didnt need a gui
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> sarah__, it may just drop to CLI and have no gui but there is nothing stopping you installing a DE
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> sarah__, I've never done the server install
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> you could just use X then it would be xubuntu
[08:19] <comp8> can anyone help me out,my screen keeps going off and saying out of range when i run kubuntu
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> comp8, have you recently modified your graphics options?
[08:20] <comp8> how do i do that?
[08:20] <comp8> i only installed it but am a newbie
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> comp8, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:21] <Pendeta> sarah and ActionParsnip, thanks!
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> comp8, set your resolution and refresh rate low and build up from there
[08:21] <comp8> how do you set those in kubuntu
[08:22] <sarah__> comp8: try your monitors autoadjust
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> comp8, its all there when you run that command
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> comp8, if in doubt leave the defaults
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> comp8, what graphics card do you have?
[08:23] <comp8> am using an old used monitor so i havent a clue what card it is
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> comp8, the card is in the pc, not the monitor
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> can you give us a pastebin of your lspci output
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> !paste | comp8
[08:24] <ubotu> comp8: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:26] <comp8> ok,here's the thing this is the first time a using kubuntu or linux for that matter,am comingfrom a windows enviroment so i need a bit of help with those commands
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> comp8, menu -> run program and type konsole then hit enter
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> comp8, you will now has a "dos prompt" but the one in Linux is FAR more powerful
[08:27] <comp8> ok
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> comp8, type lspci and hit enter
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> copy allthe text and paste it to the pastebin (above) and give us the link in the address bar
[08:29] <comp8> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58347/
[08:29] <comp8> that's the link
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> comp8, perfect - good move
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> comp8, use pastebin for masses of text or it scrolls the screen LOADS (not cool)
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> comp8, ok can you open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and give us a pastebin of that file
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> from the konsole you can type kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:33] <Stoffer> is there a kde app that I can use to crop portions of an mp3, possibly even encorporating fading ?
[08:34] <jussi01> !helpersnack | ActionParsnip
[08:34] <ubotu> ActionParsnip: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:34]  * ActionParsnip cheers
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> cheers jussi01
[08:34] <jussi01> Stoffer: yes, I think audacity should be able to do that
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Stoffer, hmm not sure. Let me google
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Stoffer, audacity seems to do it. have a look into that
[08:36] <Stoffer> k, thanks
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> comp8, you ok man?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> does having USB legacy disabled save any extra power / cpu time at all
[08:55] <Stoffer> audacity worked great, thanks again!
[08:55] <jussi01> Stoffer: yw :)
[09:01] <comp8> i've tried to open that file from the konsole but it says "permission Denied"
[09:02] <comp8> the /etc/X11/org.conf file
[09:03] <Dorwin6> comp8: sudo nano /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[09:06] <comp8> i've pasted that the url is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58348/
[09:07] <Dorwin6> comp8 : u have not have xorg install
[09:08] <comp8> how do i have it installed?
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[09:09] <MilhousePunkRock> I am trying to "rollback" from a previously manual configured wifi connection with wpa-psk and static ip to a network-manager managed connection with dhcp. Connection stalls at 28%, it works with wicd and with k-n-m on the live cd...
[09:10] <cobra_> hi Kubuntus!
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> !hi | cobra_
[09:10] <ubotu> cobra_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:10] <cobra_> Hi Ubotu :-) How are the transistores ;)
[09:11] <Dorwin6> hello cobra
[09:12] <cobra_> Does anybody know..? My chef gave enabled root account on my kubuntu and dont want to give me a password... how do i add my account to root group in init=/bin/bash mode?
[09:13] <GSF1200S> anyone alive in here?
[09:14] <MilhousePunkRock> cobra_: Are you in the sudoers group?
[09:14] <cobra_> how do i do that?
[09:15] <GSF1200S> gotta stupid question for you guys- if I set a folders permissions to root, when I open a file within that directory, am I opening it AS root?
[09:15] <MilhousePunkRock> cobra_: Type some command with sudo in front. It will prompt for you password, I think, if you are in the group
[09:15] <cobra_> MilhousePunkRock: I am not in sudoers, but i want to be ;-)
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> cobra_: Basically it is possible, but you should not ask such things on a support channel.. From my point of view, it is somewhat illegal, especially at work...
[09:17] <comp8> i need help with a monitor that keeps going and it says "out of range" on kubuntu 6
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> comp8: How did you configure it?
[09:18] <comp8> i didnt actually
[09:18] <comp8> i just installed kubuntu
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> comp8: Where does it say out of range? While booting only? There was a bug with the usplash-screen setting the resolution too high, don't know if it's still there...
[09:19] <comp8> after bootup when someone is using the machine it just goes off
[09:20] <comp8> thats when that it brings up the message
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> comp8: Do you have the manual of the screen at hand? So you can set it properly?
[09:21] <comp8> no its an old used monitor
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> comp8: Try to google for the manual, you will need the correct values
[09:22] <Y-Town> anyone know the name of the network tools for ping, traceroute, lookup, etc. in KDE?
[09:23] <comp8> its an ibm monitor can you help with that?
[09:24] <MilhousePunkRock> comp8: Since IBM probably made more than one monitor, no. What does the sticker on the back say?
[09:26] <comp8> it says FRU under the type/model
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> comp8: Good enough, google for that number
[09:27] <comp8> all am getting is battery stuff
[09:28] <MilhousePunkRock> comp8: The FRU number is actually unique for IBM products
[09:32] <GSF1200S> anyone here know anything about permissions?
[09:32] <jussi01> !anyone | GSF1200S
[09:32] <ubotu> GSF1200S: In place of  "Does anyone/anybody...", please be aware, one persons expert is another persons beginner, please ask your question in full, then see what helps!
[09:33] <Y-Town> anyone know the name of the network tools for ping, traceroute, lookup, etc. in KDE?
[09:34] <jussi01> Y-Town: are you after the package name or?
[09:34] <Y-Town> jussi01: yes sir
[09:35] <jussi01> !find ping
[09:35] <ubotu> Found: fping, iputils-arping, iputils-ping, kjumpingcube, arping (and 27 others)
[09:35] <comp8> i cant seem to get the manual from ibm
[09:35] <GSF1200S> Im just wondering if I set a directory to be be owned as root, when I open a sript/file, is it OPENED as root?
[09:35] <jussi01> no
[09:36] <jussi01> Y-Town: Im not sure which package they come in. but they are installed by default afaik
[09:36] <Y-Town> yea... I have been looking and just cant find
[09:36] <Y-Town> I found the gmome ones  :o)
[09:37] <jussi01> Y-Town: any partcular reason you need the package name?
[09:37] <Y-Town> so I can use it or install it... whichever is needed
[09:37] <jussi01> Y-Town: you can use those tools in konsole
[09:37] <jussi01> ie. ping www.google.com
[09:38] <Y-Town> <<<------ GUI
[09:38] <Y-Town> but I can I guess
[09:38] <GSF1200S> Jussi01: so its just setting access rights.. Im just making sure im not OPENING files as root
[09:39] <jussi01> GSF1200S: correct. to open things as root you need to use sudo
[09:39] <jussi01> (or kdesudo)
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> kdesu for gui apps
[09:40] <GSF1200S> right, but the only way to open the directory is to open konqueror/dolphin as root
[09:40] <GSF1200S> or sudo/kdesu
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S, where is the folder located?
[09:41] <GSF1200S> home folder
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> try sudo chown <your user name> <folder>
[09:41] <jussi01> GSF1200S: yes, if the folder is owned by root, the only one who can make changes is root.
[09:41] <jussi01> but anyone can open it
[09:42] <Apple_Cat> GSF1200S: you can check permissions with " ls -l", and you will only be opening something as root if you sudo, or if you're asked for a password
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S, if you change the owner (chown) as root (the current owner). it willbe given to the user
[09:43] <GSF1200S> Ok.. this is all my bad.. im not being clear enough-  I want to lock a folder to where only the root account can access and view the contents, including opening the files/running scripts, but I dont want those files scripts to run with admin/root privledges
[09:44] <GSF1200S> sorry I wasnt more clear
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S, chown the individual files but leave the folder owned by root (my guess)
[09:45] <GSF1200S> ActionParsnip: cool.. ill give that a shot
[09:45] <GSF1200S> Thanks jussi01, Apple_Cat as well :)
[09:47] <jussi01> :)
[09:47] <Apple_Cat> np
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S, any joy?
[09:50] <GSF1200S> trying as we speak: multitasking quite a bit :) let you know in a few..
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> cool
[09:53] <Apple_Cat> man chown, and man chmod should sort things out if you have any problems
[09:56] <GSF1200S> that will do perfect guys
[09:56] <GSF1200S> thanks alot
[09:56] <GSF1200S> ActionParsnip, Apple_Cat- thanks :)
[09:56] <Apple_Cat> np ^.^
[09:58] <Apple_Cat> hrm how can i make a shortcut to open dolphin in split mode with specific directories in each split window?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S, you got it??
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, googling now
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, try dolhin --help-kde
[10:00] <GSF1200S> ActionParsnip: yeah man.. good to go
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S, sweet as :)
[10:01] <GSF1200S> heh, :)
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, just loading my virtualbox
[10:02] <Apple_Cat> there are a few options under configure dolphin, but what i really want is to just specify a few options and arguments when starting it
[10:03] <comp8> can someone help me,i have a monitor that keeps going off and saying "Frequency out of range"
[10:04] <Apple_Cat> " /etc/X11/Xorg.conf "
[10:04] <Apple_Cat> look under screen settings to see if resolution is set too high
[10:04] <comp8> what settings are optimal,am new to kubuntu
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, got it!
[10:06] <Apple_Cat> http://www.linux.com/feature/118108
[10:06] <Apple_Cat> :O wow fantastic
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, run dolphin, settings -> configure dolphin
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, general -> splitview mode
[10:07] <Apple_Cat> 20:31] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, just loading my virtualbox
[10:07] <Apple_Cat> [20:32] <-- Y-Town has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).
[10:07] <Apple_Cat> [20:32] <Apple_Cat> there are a few options under configure dolphin, but what i really want is to just specify a few options and arguments when starting it
[10:07] <Apple_Cat> I don't really want to configure the global settings for it
[10:08] <comp8> am a newbie to kubuntu n am not really comfortable with the system yet so am not sure which settings are optimal for my used IBM monitor
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, thats all I know
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> comp8, I need your xorg.conf pastebin
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> !paste | comp8
[10:09] <comp8> how do i get that
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> comp8, run kate and open /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> *.conf sorry
[10:12] <Apple_Cat> comp8:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> comp8, i just wanna see whats going on before he dives into that
[10:12] <comp8> ok am just about to do that, ca you give me that url again
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> !paste | comp8
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> comp8, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:13] <Apple_Cat> http://www.linux.com/feature/118108 this one ?
[10:15] <comp8> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58349/
[10:15] <comp8> thats where i have pasted it
[10:16] <kid> algum brazuca ai
[10:16] <Apple_Cat> 1024x768 is the highest res ?
[10:16] <comp8> yah
[10:17] <comp8> that's the highest possible
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> comp8, ok looks pretty good. just seeing what i can find now
[10:17] <Apple_Cat> hrm 1 to 15 bit depth might be doing it
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> comp8, ok i found something
[10:18] <comp8> Aple_Cat, i have no idea what that means
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> comp8, get the konsole back up
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> cd /etc/X11 (press enter and it is CaSe SeNsItIvE)
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> comp8, ok so far
[10:19] <comp8> no says file not found
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> comp8, cd /etc
[10:19] <comp8> same thing
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> in a black konsole screen?
[10:20]  * ActionParsnip fires up his virtualbox
[10:20] <comp8> yes
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> hmm gimme a sec
[10:21] <Apple_Cat> how did you paste the stuff from before then ?
[10:21] <comp8> which stuff Apple_Cat?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, in kate ;)
[10:21] <Apple_Cat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58349/
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> comp8, ok open a fresh konsole
[10:22] <comp8> i pasted it from Kate
[10:22] <Apple_Cat> hrm i might just leave it to ActionParsnip for a bit then
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> comp8, if you type pwd what do you get?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> comp8, should be a single line
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> like /home/andy is what I get
[10:23] <comp8> let me try that?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> comp8, yeah go for it
[10:24] <comp8> let me get this straight cd/etc/X11 right?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> comp8, you need a space afer cd
[10:25] <comp8> ok
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> cd /etc/X11
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> comp8, ok so far
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> ?
[10:25] <comp8> still not working
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> you need to hit enter at the end
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> if you type pwd (and hit enter) what does it say?
[10:26] <comp8> it works now
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> comp8, so you ar ein the X11 folder?
[10:26] <comp8> its waiting for me to type
[10:26] <comp8> am there
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> comp8, ok now type sudo cp xorg.cong xorg.conf.bak
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> comp8, this will back up your xorg.conf incase things go wrong and we can easily roll back
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> comp8, all good?
[10:28] <comp8> it says file not found
[10:28] <comp8> the xorg.cong
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> if you typ pwd does it reply: /etc/X11
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> comp8, its xorg.conf
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> not cong
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> conf = config
[10:29] <comp8> let me try that
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> comp8, its really good practise to backup files like this before messing with them
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> comp8, you can copy/paste from here to the konsole too
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[10:31] <comp8> it's now in the folder you had said what next?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> ok now kdesu kate xorg.conf
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> this will enable us to edit the file
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> in kate
[10:32] <comp8> sory what??
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> kdesu kate xorg.conf
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> kdesu gives us admin power, kate is the program to run and we want to open xorg.conf
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> comp8, is it open?
[10:33] <comp8> it;s open
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> ok fabulous
[10:33] <comp8> next
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> comp8, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-656870.html read that down a bit til you see the word monitor
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> and read down YOUR file on your system in kate
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> basically that guy has the same monitor as you
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> so if you copy his monitor config lines and paste it to yours so that ONLY that section is identical
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> you should be ok.
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> you get me. say if you dont cos it will cause hell if this file is damaged (hence the backup)
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> ?
[10:35] <comp8> i still dont get it,let me read it a bit 1 min ok?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> np
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> you need the line starting  Section "Monitor"
[10:36] <comp8> found it
[10:37] <comp8> just copy paste right?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> comp8, totally
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> comp8, only the monitor bit though
[10:38] <comp8> mine is commented,does that matter?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> comp8, the monitor bit wont be commented
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> comp8, yours just says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58349/
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> comp8, line 97 to 100
[10:39] <comp8> i've pasted it should i save the file?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> yes save and exit kate
[10:40] <comp8> i ahve whats next?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> comp8, now when you restart (just to test) it should come back up and be ok
[10:41] <comp8> let me restart now n we see,give me a minute...?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> sure
[10:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> anybody knows where I can find information on creating an HA cluster with kubuntu?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> whats HA?
[10:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> High Availability.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> gundam_rx78nt1, do you mean just a load of redundant servers in a cluster
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> gundam_rx78nt1, found this: http://www.ram.org/computing/linux/linux_cluster.html
[10:47]  * ActionParsnip hopes comp8 comes back
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, can you see anything wrong with my advice?
[10:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> ActionParsnip, I have read that one already.  they are using their own written software for the redundancy functionality.. I want to create a clustered load balanced wed cluster.
[10:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> web cluster.  It's so that my web site is up no matter which server goes down.
[10:51] <Apple_Cat> ActionParsnip: nope, it all seemed pretty straightforward
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, cheers. Just dont like sending peeps toxorg.conf ville
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> gundam_rx78nt1, http://www.linux.com/feature/114005
[10:53] <ForgeAus> hehe thats a paradox if ever I saw one, theres someone with the nickname human_being in ##windows!
[10:54] <Apple_Cat> lol xorg.conf ville
[10:54] <Apple_Cat> lol windows
[10:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> ActionParsnip: That is for redundant routers.
[10:56]  * ActionParsnip thinks aero looks cheap
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> gundam_rx78nt1, its not something ive looked at. I'm just googling
[10:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh, ok
[10:58] <Apple_Cat> .....cheap...and icky
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, I was talking to a guy in ##windows who said he bought Vista purely because of Aero
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> theres a cola called Ubuntu too now
[11:00] <Apple_Cat> each to his own i guess, but on the other hand.... WHY!?!
[11:03] <Danskmand> Hi :-) - I just installed "my first s... Ubuntu" ! - Works like a charm and seems a lot better than the suse-stuff I am used to....I just have one problem
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Danskmand, sup
[11:07] <Danskmand> I am connecting to the Ubuntu-server from my win-client using putty and have a Xming server running too on the client. I have set up putty to forwart the X11 to my client so I can work from my client...But I have a problem with my .Xauthority file thats in the home-dir....its owned by root, so when I start a program, I get a "unable to write" error.....when I chown the file to the user, it works like a charm....Until I reboot, its back to 
[11:07] <Danskmand> How can I make it permanent ?
[11:08] <Danskmand> Actually this conversation runs that way using Pidgin....
[11:11] <rewati> my sound is not workin and i compiled and installed alsa but still no  sound. cat /proc/asound/cards  says nosound card
[11:11] <rewati> can any budy help
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Danskmand, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/xauth-timeout-in-locking-authority-file-.xauthority-392633/
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> rewati, canyou pastebin your lspci please
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> !paste | rewati
[11:12] <ubotu> rewati: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:13] <TheFuzzball> hello, I have an IBM Thinkpad X30 with kubuntu 7.10 installed and when I close my lid and open it again the screen stays black no matter what I do...
[11:14] <TheFuzzball> ...I always have to force the computer to shut down and then start it again
[11:14] <TheFuzzball> does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[11:14] <rewati> ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58350/
[11:15] <Danskmand> ActionParsnip: I will try that, but it seems to me that my Xming is a little unstable, it crashed again and as soon as I say "dont send", this conversation will be over....but I'll be back, so dont move ;-)
[11:16] <Danskmand> So thank you in advance :-)
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> rewati, may help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-387876.html
[11:17] <rewati> ActionParsnip here is wat i have done til now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58351/
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> TheFuzzball, sudo shutdown -r now
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> rewati, why not just use the repos?
[11:17] <TheFuzzball> ActionParsnip: why?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> TheFuzzball, that will make your system reboot
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> rewati, you done your updates yet?
[11:18] <TheFuzzball> ActionParsnip: I know, sudo reboot is easier, why do I need to reboot?
[11:18] <rewati> Actionparsnip synaptic update right
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> rewati, can do it at cli (easier).
[11:21] <max_> I need to edit the menu.lst file how I can set root pwd in Kate?
[11:21] <comp8> hey ActionParsnip
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> rewati, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> comp8, all better?
[11:21] <comp8> no the system wont start
[11:21] <ere4si> !sudo | max_
[11:21] <ubotu> max_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[11:21] <max_> (THANKS I try it...)
[11:21] <comp8> it's hangong on the last part of boot up
[11:22] <comp8> hanging*
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> comp8, very weird. we'll if you copy the file we backed up over the top of the file we editted you'll be back to where you started
[11:22] <comp8> that might be a bit of a situation coz it doesnt actualy start,am on a different machine right now
[11:23] <rewati> Actionparsnip i did that it said 0 upgraded 0 removed 0 installed
[11:23] <comp8> the one we edite doesnt start
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> rewati, did you update first?
[11:23] <rewati> Actionparsnip now what
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> comp8, ok, you on live cd now?
[11:23] <rewati> yes i did
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> rewati, check that site I pasted. Seems quite common
[11:24] <comp8> no i ahve kubuntu istalled on like 8 comuters,do you want me to use live cd on the machine that wont start?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> rewati, http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK248&q=Intel+Corporation+82801H+no+sound&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> comp8, yeah we need to copy the backed up xorg.conf back so it will boot
[11:25] <comp8> let me start the cd,just a minute
[11:25] <max_> (thanks a lot sudo work correctly)
[11:25] <ere4si> max_, great :)
[11:26] <Apple_Cat> hrm that's mighty odd that it still doesn't work, ActionParsnip
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, yeah its weird, same monitor from the xorg outputs
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-656870.html
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> comp8, what error do you get when you boot it?
[11:30] <comp8>  error actually,it just hangs and waits as if its about to start. It just brings up the kubuntu logo n then hangs ,this after loading everything
[11:30] <comp8> now i have it on live cd, what next?
[11:30] <Apple_Cat> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe ?
[11:32] <Apple_Cat> hrm ?
[11:32] <comp8> so i just type that into the konsole?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, he cant run that if it hangs at login
[11:32] <Apple_Cat> so no more screen out of range ?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, you have a go but there is a backup of xorg.conf called xorg.conf.bak
[11:32] <Apple_Cat> yeah, i didn't see that before i posted
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> I gotta jet
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> sorry :(
[11:33] <comp8> so wat do i do?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, can you pick this up please
[11:33] <Apple_Cat> I'll try
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> cheers
[11:34] <comp8> ok Aple_cat where do we go from here?
[11:34] <Apple_Cat> so it just hangs before the login screen when trying to boot ?
[11:34] <comp8> yah...
[11:34] <comp8> it just hangs there
[11:35] <Apple_Cat> does it get to the loading screen with the little loading bar ?
[11:36] <comp8> it loads everything but just when it's about to go to the screen where there are several icons
[11:36] <Apple_Cat> hrm, boot up into the live cd if you haven't already
[11:37] <comp8> i have,
[11:37] <Apple_Cat> sorry I'm going to be a bit slow to reply for a few minutes
[11:38] <comp8> thats ok...
[11:39] <Apple_Cat> hm sorry,maybe it would be easier to just boot up into recovery mode
[11:39] <comp8> how do i do that?
[11:40] <Apple_Cat> just reboot, then it should come up with the grub meny and there should some options, one of them will be ubuntu recovery mode
[11:40] <Apple_Cat> menu*
[11:42] <comp8> its up waiting for me to type something
[11:42] <Apple_Cat> ok great, i think I'll try get you to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:43] <comp8> so i just type that in?
[11:43] <Apple_Cat> what does it say on the screen ?
[11:43] <Apple_Cat> yep, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:43] <comp8> right now it just says root@comp8:~#
[11:44] <Apple_Cat> allright then, type " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (then press enter)
[11:45] <jackault> Is there a way to get kinfocenter to generate a report containing all the system specs?
[11:45] <comp8> ok now it wants to know if i want attempt to auto detect hardware
[11:46] <Apple_Cat> dmidecode -q | less, not kinfocenter, but will print system specs, jackault
[11:46] <Apple_Cat> say yes, comp8
[11:46] <comp8> there are several drivers listed with i810 seelcted
[11:47] <Apple_Cat> is it asking you to select anything ?
[11:48] <comp8> it says select the desired x server driver  with an ok button at the bottom but there is one already selected,should i say ok?
[11:48] <Apple_Cat> if it has already selected one, just select <OK> and continue
[11:48] <jackault> thanks Apple_Cat
[11:49] <Apple_Cat> next screen should ask for an identifier, it should say the name of your video card, select <OK>
[11:49] <jackault> Do you know if Ubuntu comes with dmidecode also?
[11:50] <comp8> done....
[11:50] <Apple_Cat> that was what that cmd did, jackault
[11:51] <Apple_Cat> now it should say something about  "PCI:1:00", just select <OK> and continue
[11:52] <jackault> Apple_Cat: I don't follow?
[11:52] <comp8> ok,so far so good,now it wants me to enter amount memory to be used by the video card,wat do i enter?
[11:53] <Apple_Cat> sorry,jackault,I don't follow either ?
[11:53] <jackault> What did you mean by "that was what that cmd did" in referrence to my question about whether it's on Ubuntu ?
[11:53] <jackault> as opposed to Kubuntu
[11:54] <Apple_Cat> write 8mb, select <OK>, and continue
[11:55] <comp8> it wants to know if it should use kernel framebuffer device interface?

[11:55] <comp8> auto detect keyboard layout?
[11:56] <Apple_Cat> do you know what kind of keyboard you have ?
[11:56] <comp8> it's a compaq.

[11:57] <comp8> so i should say no?
[11:57] <Apple_Cat> yes you should say no
[11:57] <comp8> keyboard layout "us"?

[11:57] <comp8> xkb rule to use?
[11:58] <Apple_Cat> xorg should be in the bar, select <Ok>
[11:59] <dhq> i want to make a vpn what do i do
[11:59] <comp8> now there's some stuff about keyboards and wat i should enter but there's only an ok button....
[12:00] <Apple_Cat> yep just select <Ok> and continue
[12:00] <comp8> pc104?
[12:00] <Apple_Cat> yep
[12:00] <comp8> another ok button,press it?
[12:01] <Apple_Cat> yep
[12:01] <Apple_Cat> Leave the next screen blank and continue on
[12:01] <comp8> it wants me to select keyboard variant,watshould i type?
[12:01] <comp8> another ok button..?
[12:01] <comp8> should i also press that and continue?
[12:02] <Apple_Cat> yep, just hit ok
[12:02] <Apple_Cat> Leave blank again,and continue on
[12:03] <comp8> now it wants mouse options...ImPS/2 or ExplorerPs/@
[12:03] <comp8> sory PS/2
[12:03] <Apple_Cat> explorerPS/2
[12:03] <comp8> emulate 3 button mouse?
[12:04] <Apple_Cat> do you have a middle mouse button ?
[12:04] <comp8> a scroll
 then
[12:04] <comp8> another ok button
 again
[12:05] <comp8> another one...
[12:05] <Apple_Cat> what does it say ?
[12:05] <comp8> select the X.org server modules that should be loaded by default then it has a list
 again
 to write defualt Files section to configuration file
 to attempt monitor autodetection
[12:07] <zoreol> hello
[12:07] <zoreol> :)
[12:07] <comp8> it wants an identifier for my monitor
[12:08] <Apple_Cat> what does it have in there ?
[12:08] <comp8> it has an ibm 6331 E54
 again then
[12:08] <zoreol> who's playing Warsow?
[12:08] <zoreol> i have a question
[12:08] <comp8> now it wants video modes and and it has a list
[12:09] <Apple_Cat> are there stars next to 1280x1024, 800x600 ?
[12:09] <comp8> yah,also on the 640x480
 again then
[12:10] <comp8> aanother ok button...
[12:10] <Apple_Cat> <ok to the next screen of text
then <Ok>
[12:11] <comp8> monitor size?
[12:12] <Apple_Cat> just select whichever is the size of your monitor
[12:12] <Apple_Cat> It'd either be 19" or 17"
[12:12] <comp8> actually it's closer to 14 inches
[12:13] <Apple_Cat> yep i just saw that, just select 15 inches
[12:14] <Apple_Cat> those crt's throwing off my calcamalations
[12:14] <comp8> write monitor sync ranges to configuration file?

[12:14] <comp8> color depth?
 colour depth
[12:15] <Apple_Cat> now you should be back to the black screen
[12:15] <comp8> am there
[12:15] <Apple_Cat> try "startx"
[12:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> Apple_Cat: "calcamalations"???
[12:16] <Apple_Cat> yes,calcamalations haha
[12:17] <gundam_rx78nt1> so my calcamalations is... 42!
[12:17] <comp8> it's starting up,thanx Apple_Cat,you a God send!
[12:17] <Apple_Cat> oh excellent, glad to hear it
[12:18] <Apple_Cat> ^,^
[12:18] <comp8> And everything is working as it should
[12:19] <Apple_Cat> so you're logged in and everythings fine ?
[12:19] <comp8> yah except something is wrong with the networ printer i was using coz now it says the CUPS server xconnection failed
[12:20] <comp8> sory CUPS server
[12:20] <Apple_Cat> and it was working before ?
[12:20] <gundam_rx78nt1> Apple_Cat: do you happen to know where I can find information on how to setup a kubuntu high availability web server cluster?
[12:20] <comp8> yes, i had installed a network printer but it's not there now
[12:21] <Apple_Cat> how did you set it up before ?
[12:21] <comp8> ion a samba network using the add printer wizard
[12:21] <comp8> but the backend selection on the wizard is now inactive
[12:22] <Apple_Cat> you most likely won't be using Kubuntu as it will just be cmd line based,gundam?
[12:24] <Apple_Cat> hrm it's odd that it was working before but isn't now, anyone have any ideas ?
[12:25] <comp8> gat to run Apple Cat,will be back to get a solution,thanks heaps!
[12:26] <Marphine> Hey folks I have an issue that I am hoping to find a resolution to that's related to the K3b burning app
[12:26] <Apple_Cat> no worries,comp8 ^^
[12:26] <Marphine> It's the primary reason that I maintain a dual boot system these days
[12:27] <Apple_Cat> What's the issue ?
[12:27] <Marphine> What ha[ppens is that I go to launch the app, the cursor bounces like it's loading...
[12:27] <Marphine> and then...
[12:27] <Marphine> ...nothing
[12:28] <Marphine> oh and it  does show up in my process list at this point but no changes on the GUI
[12:28] <baudthief> Anyone have an idea of how to turn off the grey bullet backgrounds in OpenOffice?
[12:28] <Apple_Cat> tried reinstalling ?
[12:28] <Marphine> yup
[12:28] <Apple_Cat> purging ?
[12:28] <Marphine> elaborate please re: purging
[12:29] <jussi01> sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[12:29] <Apple_Cat> yep, that's the one
[12:29] <Marphine> I will now
[12:30] <Marphine> what's it supposed to accomplish?
[12:31] <Apple_Cat> purging removes some config files and whatnot
[12:33] <Marphine> okay purged now reinstalling from konsole
[12:33] <Apple_Cat> so the theory is if you remove the program and it's config files, then reinstall you might get rid of whatever is causing the problems
[12:34] <baudthief> I guess I have to revert to MS office then :(
[12:34] <Apple_Cat> baudthief: ?
[12:34] <Marphine> grrrr
[12:35] <baudthief> Bullets in OpenOffice have a gray background, regardless of any options changed
[12:35] <Marphine> (that means that I tried the suggestion to no avail)
[12:35] <baudthief> this: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=10390 - didn't work
[12:35] <toter> Hi everybody... I'm having problems with Hardy Heron...Monitor & Display under System Settings does not work. Anybody also having this problem?
[12:37] <Marphine> anybody have any other suggestion? I hate having to maintain a Win partition and a fat32 partition to use for my data-to-be-burned on this tiny drive
[12:37] <Apple_Cat> Please elaborate, toter?
[12:38] <toter> ok
[12:38] <toter> I just installed Hardy Heron... First thing I tried was to change the resolution... didn't work
[12:38] <toter> I tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... Everything is update now
[12:38] <toter> still doesn't work
[12:38] <Marphine> it's enough to make me want to go out and smoke a bunch of crack out of frustration
[12:40] <toter> I get this error: "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded"
[12:41] <toter> The console output is....
[12:41] <toter> Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:41] <toter>   File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/displayconfig.py", line 1483, in slotSecondMonitorToggled
[12:41] <toter>     self._syncGUIScreen()
[12:42] <toter>   File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/displayconfig.py", line 1182, in _syncGUIScreen
[12:42] <toter>     self.resize_slider.setScreen(self.current_screen)
[12:42] <toter>   File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/displayconfigwidgets.py", line 46, in setScreen
[12:42] <toter>     self.screensizeslider.setMaxValue(len(screen.getAvailableResolutions())-1)
[12:42] <toter> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getAvailableResolutions'
[12:42] <toter> Error in sys.excepthook:
[12:42] <toter> Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:42] <toter>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apport_python_hook.py", line 42, in apport_excepthook
[12:42] <toter>     binary = os.path.realpath(os.path.join(os.getcwdu(), sys.argv[0]))
[12:42] <toter> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'argv'
[12:42] <jussi01> !paste | toter
[12:42] <ubotu> toter: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:43] <toter> sorry, i didn't know... i'm knew here
[12:43] <jussi01> toter: no problems. please dont do it again though :)
[12:44] <frank23> toter: that's the bug in hardy right?
[12:45] <toter> frank23: yes
[12:45] <jussi01> toter: hardy stuff should be in #ubuntu+1 :)
[12:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> Marphine: are you still there?
[12:46] <frank23> toter: it's related to the fact that xorg.conf changed alot in hardy.
[12:47] <gundam_rx78nt1> wireless drivers also changed in Hardy.
[12:47] <gundam_rx78nt1> the intel drivers don't work for me.
[12:47] <Marphine> yeah
[12:47] <gundam_rx78nt1> open a konsole session and run k3b.  If it fails, you should see why.
[12:48] <Marphine> I'm just frustrated with the fact that I'm still M$ dependant for burning dvd's
[12:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> type k3b.
[12:48] <Marphine> sure justa sec
[12:48] <toter> frank23: i'm just saying... i think it has something to do with python... i just want to change the resolution...
[12:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh, another thing is try running it as root, if it comes up, you can try to troubleshoot with your config files.
[12:50] <Marphine> yeah I did that and /// nothing
[12:51] <Marphine> it didn't even give me my name@name-COMPUTERNAME:~$ prompt again... just dropped to the next line and hangs
[12:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> hold on
[12:52] <Marphine> running as root.....and..... the same. asks for pw then drops to next line and no prompt nothing
[12:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> can you see if the process is running?  ps -A | grep k3b
[12:54] <Marphine> I can see it from the process table
[12:54] <Marphine> multiple instances
[12:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> kill them all.
[12:55] <Marphine> they will not die
[12:56] <Marphine> for real I've tried from the process table app
[12:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> on the konsole as sudo or root do a kill -9 <pid>
[12:57] <Marphine> there were three
[12:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> are they dead?
[12:57] <Marphine> I was able to kill two of the instances... one refuses to die
[12:59] <Marphine> this is so odd and frustrating... I may have to go back to shooting heroin because of this
[13:00] <MasseR> Hi. Has someone good experience with wpa_supplicant? I'm going from a place with wpa enabled to a place without it. I have to boot the computer to get wpa disabled. Rt2500.
[13:00] <Marphine> okay for real though I really just wanna make a dvd without having to restart, stopping my torrents
[13:00] <MasseR> However if I do ifdown wlan0 ; killall -9 wpa_supplicant ; ifup wlan0 - I do get ip but dns doesn't seem to work
[13:01] <MasseR> (I'm changing /etc/network/interfaces between those commands)
[13:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> Marphine, looking at the process table, who is the 'owner' of the process?
[13:05] <Marphine> under the 'login' columb is 'luser' my login
[13:05] <Marphine> and that's how I'm logged in now
[13:05] <Tondar> hi all , any one can help me ?
[13:06] <Tondar> I want to install Server package ( mysql, PHP , and so one ) from kubunto DVD how I can do that ?
[13:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> and if you type kill <pid> as you, it doesn't stop it?
[13:07] <Marphine> correct
[13:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> it's wierd that it doesn't die.  Usually with root priveledges you should be able to kill it easily.
[13:08] <Marphine> that's my understanding as well, though I'm admittedly a linux novice
[13:09] <Tondar> ?
[13:13] <jussi01> !lamp | Tondar
[13:13] <ubotu> Tondar: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[13:14] <gundam_rx78nt1> Marphine: this might work killall k3b
[13:15] <wyf_>  
[13:15] <Marphine> :(
[13:16] <Marphine> hey brb in 5 min
[13:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok
[13:18] <dhuwyf> 新人初到，请多指教。
[13:18] <el-gokulo> im sorry to ask again. but i got some isp problems and i dont know whether my question was send or not
[13:18] <el-gokulo> can anyone tell me, where the defalut kicker background image is located? rigkt click on panel -> configure panel -> appearance -> background image
[13:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> el-gokulo: /usr/share/apps/kicker
[13:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> under the wallpaper directory
[13:21] <el-gokulo> thx
[13:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> np
[13:21] <dhuwyf> this channel is not speak chinese?!
[13:22] <Marphine> aaiite
[13:22] <dhuwyf> ?
[13:22] <Jucato> !cn | dhuwyf
[13:23] <ubotu> dhuwyf: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[13:23] <dhuwyf> thanks
[13:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> Marphine: do a kill -TERM <pid>
[13:23] <Marphine> oh and Gundam, regardless of whether we discover a resolution for my issue, I just want to make sure that you know that your efforts are greatly appreciated
[13:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> as super user.
[13:24] <Marphine> that failed to produce the desired effect
[13:25] <Marphine> I'm afraid that I'm going to have to remove the k3b app, reboot, and then reinstall to get it to stop
[13:25] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok then the last thing I can say is do kill -HUP <pid>, if not, then I will suggest to reboot.
[13:25] <_linus> ola ,bomdia
[13:26] <Marphine> okay justa sec then
[13:26] <_linus> alguem que fala pt-br na sala
[13:26] <Marphine> grrrrr
[13:26] <Marphine> I'm gonna remove it before rebooting
[13:26] <Pici> !br | _linus
[13:26] <ubotu> _linus: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:28] <Marphine> how frustrating... it takes a while to get a good speed going on a torrent and I'm gonna hafta stop it
[13:29] <Marphine> at least I have the foresite to save the .torrent file until the transfer finishes
[13:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> sorry, I couldn't help more.
[13:30] <SmokeIT> say i just tried to install the new alsa driver
[13:30] <Marphine> okay since I'm shutting down I have some stuff to do in WinBlows... can you tell me what you were going to suggest once I manage to terminate the process?
[13:31] <SmokeIT> and once they where installed kmix stopt working
[13:31] <Marphine> I'lll just save this chatlog and work from there but I don't plan on being back for about 2 hours
[13:31] <Marphine> or is that the end?
[13:31] <Marphine> lol
[13:31] <SmokeIT> i tried to reinstall the packages with adept manager to get the old drivers back
[13:32] <Marphine> oh don't be sorry it's cool
[13:32] <SmokeIT> but it still don't work
[13:32] <Marphine> I really appreciate you making the effort
[13:32] <Marphine> I worked tech support for an ISP for 4 years and I understand that not every problem has a reasonable solutioon
[13:32] <SmokeIT> can anybody help me
[13:33] <Dorwin6> hi what is the command to install kubuntu package after downloading it
[13:34] <Dorwin6> was it something like sudo apt-get install disp-update
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Normally one uses 'sudo apt-get install whatever'
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> you DONT 'download' it beforhand normally
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> for dwnloaded ones.. BUT that may not get all the dependencies.
[13:36] <Dorwin6> DR_Willis : how do i install of all the updates that I've just downloaded from sources.list
[13:36] <Jucato> Dorwin6: how did you download them?
[13:36]  * Jucato believes he already gave an answer to the same question earlier...
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get update
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> there ya go.. :) thas how i do it.
[13:37] <Dorwin6> thanks that is what I am looking for
[13:37] <Dorwin6> upgrades
[13:37] <Jucato> [Tue Mar 4 2008] [08:55:23] <Jucato>    Dorwin6: "sudo apt-get update" to fetch updates and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to install them
[13:37] <Jucato> turns out I gave the same answer to the same question to the same person earlier :)
[13:38] <Dorwin6> Jucato : I have just reformat again :( so its gone.
[13:38] <Dorwin6> jucato : I shall write it down now
[13:38] <Dorwin6> jucato : im trying to install kubuntu from scratch again to make sure I remember what everyone has thought me before
[13:38] <Jucato> :D
[13:38]  * Jucato hugs his IRC logs
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> Dorwin6,  that update, did NOT download the 'updates' it updated the LIST of packages.  and thus knows what ones are now upgradeable :)
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> I think i got that rught. heh
[13:39] <Jucato> basically "sudo apt-get update" just checks if there are updates available
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> it fetches the list of updates i guess is correct to say.
[13:39]  * Jucato nods
[13:40]  * Dorwin6 thank jucato and Dr_Willis for thier help
[13:40] <Dorwin6> will note down the commands now
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Dorwin6,  those are pretty much 'apt-get' fundamentals.. :)  Lesson 1, day one.
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> I need to read more on the apt system also..  its so... interesting.
[13:50] <Dorwin6> Dr_Willis : any book that you would able to suggest me to read
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[13:51] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[13:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> sorry Marphine, I had a meeting to attend.
[13:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am working right now.
[14:09] <pitris> Hi guys, can anyone help me with installing latest VLC player?
[14:11] <pitris> I'm getting these errors:
[14:11] <pitris> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:11] <pitris>   vlc: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.6.1-1ubuntu10 is to be installed
[14:11] <pitris>        Depends: libcaca0 (>= 0.99.beta13b-1) but 0.99.beta11.debian-3 is to be installed
[14:11] <pitris>        Depends: libcairo2 (>= 1.5.8) but 1.4.10-1ubuntu4.4 is to be installed
[14:11] <pitris> etc.
[14:11] <jussi01> !paste | pitris
[14:11] <ubotu> pitris: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:11] <jussi01> pitris: sudo apt-get update then try again
[14:12] <pitris> jussi01: I've already done this
[14:12] <pitris> jussi01: haven't helped
[14:12] <Pici> pitris: Where are you trying to install vlc from?
[14:12] <pitris> Pici: deb http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/gutsy-i386/arch ./
[14:12] <pitris> Pici: I found that link at VLC site
[14:13] <jussi01> pitris: curiosity in me asks why do you want the latest one?
[14:14] <pitris> jussi01: I need v4l2 support for my webcam
[14:14] <pitris> jussi01: the latest stable didn't work for me
[14:15] <jussi01> pitris: ahh, got you
[14:16] <pitris> Doesn't ubuntu provide latest packages that vlc needs or is it a bug in vlc package?
[14:23] <dancemusiconly> good evening! i've got a usb DVDRW-drive. When I insert a CD it's ok. But when i try to write a cd it doesn't work? what may cause the problem
[14:25] <dancemusiconly> anybody here????
[14:25] <alvar> yap
[14:26] <genii> yup
[14:26] <alvar> staring blankly
[14:26] <dancemusiconly> еще впечатление от меня от гламурно развратной сцучки, ааа???
[14:26] <dancemusiconly> я бля круче вас! я умная! я знаю, что тимати это еще и шампунь!!!
[14:26] <dancemusiconly> и вот это вот... эээ щааа.. высшая математика!!!! да!!!
[14:26] <dancemusiconly> Че бля, вот вам, ага...
[14:26] <genii> dancemusiconly: Does it read CD ok?
[14:26] <genii> !ru | dancemusiconly
[14:26] <ubotu> dancemusiconly: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[14:26] <dancemusiconly> sorry. yes it's ok
[14:27] <genii> dancemusiconly: The laser which writes may be kaput
[14:27] <Thecks> !en | Thecks
[14:28] <Thecks> hah.
[14:28] <dancemusiconly> than why does it work normally with windows?
[14:28] <dancemusiconly> that's the problem only with kubuntu
[14:29] <genii> dancemusiconly: Which burning program are you using? K3B ?
[14:29] <dancemusiconly> i've tried a couple. K3B is one of them
[14:30] <genii> dancemusiconly: Likely then if it is reading, the system cannot tell it is also a writer.
[14:31] <dancemusiconly> can I solve this problem somehow?
[14:35] <genii> dancemusiconly: Have you tried writing at 2x?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:36] <dancemusiconly> нуы - ыешдд вщуытэе цщкл
[14:36]  * genii hands BluesKaj a coffee
[14:36] <dancemusiconly> yes still doesn't work
[14:37] <BluesKaj> thx genii :)
[14:37] <Dorwin6> !search wlrd
[14:37] <ubotu> Found:
[14:37] <Dorwin6> !search intel proset
[14:37] <ubotu> Found: aiglx, 0x40001d-#ubuntu-effects, aiglx-#ubuntu-effects, intel-#ubuntu-effects, snd_hda_intel, hdaintel, intelhda, effects
[14:37] <genii> dancemusiconly: Other than perhaps upgrading the DVD-RW firmware no other immediate ideas come to mind.
[14:38] <ghostcube> hi guys ! Question what has changed from kde 3.5.7 to kde 3.5.8 and 3.5.9 in kdetaskbarrc so that compiz-taskbar  isnt working anymore
[14:38] <ghostcube> compiz-fusion supporter here
[14:39] <dancemusiconly> anyway tnx
[14:39] <dancemusiconly> bb
[14:41] <ghostcube> kicker compiz still works for the viewport switch but taskbar isnt working anymore
[14:41] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime :)
[14:57] <Arwen> someone, I need a command that will replace every space (  ) in a plaintext file with an underscore ( _ )
[14:57] <neosaki> >.>
[14:57] <neosaki> Replace all?
[14:58] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» man sed
[14:58] <Arwen> sed is too confusing
[14:59] <Arwen> also, is there any reason that amarok can't read album art embedded in FLAC files?
[14:59] <Odd-rationale> Did the kubuntu guys ever get around to redesigning the kubuntu website? I noticed that it is no longer in the topic, but the site seems to be the same....
[15:00] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: Id ask in #kubuntu-devel
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale» they are working on it
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> should be ready by the time hardy is released
[15:00] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: That is good to know! I don't really like the current design....
[15:01] <Arwen> hehe
[15:02] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, I tried using sed with the expression "s/ /_" but that only seems to do the first line?
[15:03] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» there is probably a option to do it for every line
[15:04] <Arwen> argh, I can't understand the man page...
[15:05] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» are you doing capital r or small r?
[15:05] <Arwen> r?
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> for the file input.... or maybe I don't understand the man page either ^_^
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> try "sed s/ /_ r filename"
[15:07] <Arwen> hrmm
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> and back up the file first of course ;)
[15:07] <Arwen> -e expression #1, char 2: unterminated `s' command
[15:07] <Arwen> :-?
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> bleh :)
[15:08] <Arwen> bah, I tried learning to use gawk too. ARGH EYECANCER.
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> try "sed s/" "/_ r filename"
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> see if the two quotes help it
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> (the internal ones)\
[15:08] <Arwen> same error, except in char5
[15:08] <Arwen> :-)
[15:08] <julle> How can i change Konversation to not open weblinks in Lynx?
[15:09] <Arwen> hmm, never mind, I found it. It was "sed -e 's/ /_/g' filename"
[15:09] <Arwen> julle, change your default browser in KDE
[15:09] <nosrednaekim> julle» configure->general->misc->default browser
[15:10] <julle> okey thax
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> ah... -e :)
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> shoulda seen that
[15:10] <Arwen> hmm, changing Konversation to use a grey on black colorscheme doesn't really work
[15:11] <Arwen> yay for invisible text
[15:11] <Jucato> Arwen: it's a long story, but you'll have to manually tweak colors in Konvi because some parts don't always follow the KDE color scheme
[15:14] <djdarkman> does kde have a partitioner? (qtparted doesn`t count)
[15:14] <Jucato> there's another one in kde-apps.org just forgot the name
[15:16] <Jucato> djdarkman: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Disk+Manager?content=70149 I think
[15:17] <BluesKaj> yeah, the default purple-pink text quits & joins is ugly.
[15:19] <jhutchins_wk> Why does a DE need a disk partition tool in the first place?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> I changed most of the default text clours in konverstion due to colour fatigue :)
[15:20] <Jucato> jhutchins_wk: admin tools perhaps
[15:21]  * jhutchins_wk rejects the wrongheaded notion that system administration should involve a GUI.  That's Windows.
[15:21] <clau30_> hellp. does the kubuntu live-dvd have support for ntfs partitions?
[15:22] <clau30_> i ment hello :)
[15:22] <Jucato> jhutchins_wk: I didn't say "system adminstrator". I said "system administration", which can be performed by a desktop user on his system
[15:22] <Arwen> clau30_, yes
[15:22] <Jucato> unless it's a wrongheaded notion that a user should do that
[15:22] <mrunagi> i cant seem to figure out remote desktop, does anyone have experience with this?
[15:23] <mrunagi> !vnc
[15:23] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[15:23] <jhutchins_wk> Jucato: If the user thinks he needs a GUI to do it, yes.
[15:23] <mrunagi> what password does the remote desktop want?
[15:24] <clau30_> Arwen: default or do I have to install it? gutsy 7.10 dvd i mean
[15:24] <Arwen> ntfstools should be installed by default
[15:24] <ghostcube> guys mac osx to linux samba or shh must be the same locale coding :|
[15:24] <ghostcube> mmaybe this is tthe prob here too
[15:24] <Jucato> I don't think gutsy has ntfstools installed by default, but it does have ntfs-3g installed but not enabled
[15:25] <ghostcube> hmmmm is there any idea for the compiz-taskbar thing maybe it doesnt recognize ShowAllWindows=false
[15:26] <clau30_> Jucato: so I can use ntfs-xyz to mount those partionions? I'll try it out
[15:26] <clau30_> thanks all
[15:26] <Arwen> ghostcube, hmm? compiz-taskbar only shows local windows here
[15:26] <djdarkman> thanks Jucato I found it too, one problem: t requires OpenSuSE's hwinfo, parted and HAL/DBus support, and is part of the DARKSTAR Linux Project.
[15:26] <Arwen> do you actually have it running? you have to remove the normal one and add the applet
[15:27] <ghostcube> Arwen: sure im compiz support :|
[15:27] <ghostcube> it doesnt work with kde 3.58 and 3.5.9
[15:29] <Jucato> !info hwinfo | djdarkman
[15:29] <ubotu> djdarkman: hwinfo (source: hwinfo): Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.35-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 108 kB
[15:31] <ghostcube> lol lot of root in here
[15:31] <ghostcube> :D
[15:31] <jhutchins_wk> mrunagi: Ping?
[15:32] <Jucato> djdarkman: actually I think there was an attempt to package it for Kubuntu by one of the devs
[15:32] <LjL> !nickspam | root__, root______, root________
[15:32] <ubotu> root__, root______, root________: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #kubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines
[15:32] <LjL> !rootirc
[15:32] <ubotu> It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[15:33] <djdarkman> Jucato: yes it`s int he repos allright
[15:38] <lateral_link> I really dislike X
[15:38] <djdarkman> why?
[15:38] <lateral_link> I'm fabulas at crashing it
[15:38] <djdarkman> maybe it`s the driver`s fault
[15:39] <ardiani> hi everyone
[15:40] <ardiani> i'm quite new on using linux
[15:40] <ardiani> a love this OS and open source\
[15:40] <clau30_> welcome ardiani :)
[15:40] <lateral_link> it's my fault, i'm just not used to the ati driver stuff
[15:40] <jhutchins_wk> lateral_link: You could just run in default mode for a while to get used to the system.
[15:41] <ardiani> and i have a question
[15:41] <ardiani> i'm using aony vaio
[15:41] <ardiani> but i can't install my integrated web cam
[15:42] <BluesKaj> lateral_link, which ati card ?
[15:42] <lateral_link> 2400
[15:42] <ardiani> can anyone help me
[15:43] <ubuntu_> !floppy
[15:43] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[15:44] <ubuntu_> lol i dont understand floppy drives on kubuntu
[15:45] <ardiani> so is there anyone who can help me ang give me some advice how should i install a motion eye integratetd web cam on sony vaio vgn-cr320 notebooks
[15:46] <BluesKaj> lateral_link, have you tried the default restricted driver in system settings /advanced or did you install the 8.2 ATI proprietary driver ?
[15:47] <lateral_link> did the proprietary driver, and getting angered at the tv setttings thats all
[15:50] <BluesKaj> ok, lateral_link , dunno much about that ..I use tvtime on a seperate tvtuner card
[15:54] <znoG> hey all .. is it possible to do a minimal install of Kubuntu? (ie. no KDE .. like a base install). The idea is to install on a server so I want to avoid installing KDE and any graphical stuff.
[15:54] <stdin> znoG: just install the server edition then
[15:55] <znoG> didn't know there was a kubuntu server edition. Nice! Thanks
[15:55] <stdin> there is a Ubuntu server edition, not sure if there's a Kubuntu one, but then it would be the same anyway
[15:56] <znoG> yep, its ubuntu .. time to d/l
[16:01] <LjL> znoG, the only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is that one has GNOME, and the other KDE. so a Kubuntu without KDE simply makes no sense
[16:01] <LjL> znoG: you can use the server-specific edition, or you could also actually do a minimal install of the non-server Ubuntu
[16:01] <LjL> !minimal
[16:01] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:02] <znoG> LjL: yep, I figured. I thought since I have the Kubuntu DVD, I could save myself downloading an ISO by not installing any graphical stuff
[16:02] <znoG> cool, thanks!
[16:02] <LjL> znoG, however the normal ("live") CD (and i guess the DVD, but i've never used the DVD) is structured in a way that doesn't allow you to select what to install
[16:03] <andy_> I just installed the new drivers for alsa and now kmix says that he can't find a mixer
[16:04] <andy_> whats the problem
[16:04] <andy_> i also tried to reinstall the older drivers with adept manager but it still doesn't work
[16:17] <alejo> buenas tardes gente
[16:18] <zancdar> Hello
[16:18] <alejo> alguien sabes si se ha podido ejecutar solidworks en ubuntu?
[16:19] <Pici> !es | alejo
[16:19] <ubotu> alejo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:19] <alejo> ok gracias
[16:19] <Briareos_> is it possible to automatically lock the screen after X minutes?
[16:19] <zancdar> How can i remove kubuntu-desktop whith all his dependencies to have only kubuntu-kde4-desktop ?
[16:20] <alejo> i change the channel, tanks
[16:20] <alejo> by
[16:20] <andy_> where can i find a curse library?
[16:20] <andy_> *curses
[16:21] <zancdar> the libcurse?
[16:21] <BluesKaj> zancdar, KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:21] <andy_> with adept manager i can only find interfaces for that library but not the library itself
[16:22] <zancdar> libncurses5-dev isn't it?
[16:23] <andy_> oh yeah i found it now
[16:23] <andy_> i still had some tags on
[16:23] <andy_> thx
[16:23] <MasseR> Why does the latest updates demand removing packages?
[16:23] <MasseR> For example now they're trying to remove imlib2 and mplayer
[16:24] <MasseR> Mplayer is my primary video-player so what gives?
[16:26] <antiati> hello world i have a problem with hardy
[16:26] <antiati> where must i go
[16:27] <frank_> MasseR: did you use non-ubuntu repositories at some point to install stuff?
[16:27] <antiati> !hardy
[16:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:28] <MasseR> frank_: Repositories that didn't come with ubuntu, but all are gutsy gibbon packages
[16:28] <FLUXxXx> Hello! I'm writing a project for school about Linux. Can anyone help me with this:? Which are the criterias that differeces all Linux distributions? I was thinking about the package manager (rpm/deb/etc), the desktop env (kde/gnome/etc). What else? Give me as many as you can think of. THANK YOU
[16:29] <MasseR> FLUXxXx: I doubt there are such rules. I could create a distribution, name it masbuntu, and have only one extra default package compared to ubuntu
[16:29] <Feuerstoff> FLUXxXx: thats off topic for this channel
[16:30] <Feuerstoff> FLUXxXx: ##linux
[16:30] <frank_> MasseR: yeah but sometimes programs from other repositories depend on specific versions of packages... does the mplayer package you have come from ubuntu or another source (like medibuntu)
[16:30] <MasseR> Probably
[16:30] <Dorwin6> have anyone installed flash in konquorer ?
[16:31] <MasseR> Dorwin6: Yep, download install_flash_player_9r48_linux.tar.gz
[16:31] <MasseR> frank_: Does apt have some kind of ability to force a version?
[16:31] <Dorwin6> MasseR : can you tell me how do download it and install to run in Konqueror ?
[16:31] <Feuerstoff> !pin > MasseR
[16:31] <MasseR> Dorwin6: Can't remember where I found it
[16:32] <Dorwin6> MasseR : alright then, can u let me know if u recall it
[16:33] <frank_> MasseR: yes although I don't know exactly how... You can also disable non-ubuntu repos and reinstall a package.
[16:41] <mefisto__> MasseR: sudo apt-get install package-name=version.number.to.install
[16:42] <mefisto__> just add = then the version you want
[16:45] <BluesKaj> !flash | Dorwin6
[16:45] <ubotu> Dorwin6: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:48] <vijay> is there any cammand to disable data compression on modem?
[16:50] <TUPKO> hi all where firefox save cookies?
[16:52] <icewaterman> TUPKO: depending on your settings nowhere
[16:52] <TUPKO> all is default i didint edit nothing
[16:53] <icewaterman> then it is ~/.mozilla/firefox/xyz.default/cookies.txt
[16:56] <TUPKO> k found it
[16:56] <TUPKO> thanks
[16:56] <TUPKO> :)
[16:58] <icewaterman> TUPKO: however i encourage you not to allow for anything else but session cookies
[17:01] <kaminix> Why is Kubuntu using scim be default? I have tried to set it up for ages, but it keeps failing in some way or another, like not working in certain apps. Now I've set up UIM and it took like 30 minutes including google time
[17:08] <waynrdude> how can i edit the power settings of kubuntu
[17:12] <BluesKaj> waynrdude, edit power settings, or adjust them ?
[17:14] <Jared555> stupid question.... what is the big reason for kde over gnome/gnome over kde?
[17:15] <frank_> Jared555 stupid answer: just try both and decide for yourself ;-)
[17:16] <Jared555> asing for TECHNICAL reasons
[17:17] <jussi01> Jared555: please, google it. there is more than enough material out there.
[17:20] <chidam> hi all,i'm having problem with mounting ntfs partitions.FUSE mount point creation failed.....
[17:20] <waynrdude> i dont want kubuntu to go into hibernation after a while
[17:20] <waynrdude> or turn of hard disks
[17:21] <chidam> !FUSE
[17:21] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[17:21] <waynrdude> !power
[17:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:22] <chidam> hi all,i'm having problem with mounting ntfs partitions.FUSE mount point creation failed.Can any of u help me...
[17:25] <Dorwin6> !wlrd
[17:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlrd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:25] <Dorwin6> !wicd
[17:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:25] <waynrdude> are there no power options for kubuntu?
[17:26] <ubuntu_> !it
[17:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:26] <Dorwin6> waynrdude : it is on the lightning icon on the bottom screen
[17:26] <Dorwin6> it is called power manament
[17:27] <Dorwin6> power management
[17:27] <waynrdude> i dont have a lightning icon
[17:27] <waynrdude> im on a desktop
[17:29] <waynrdude> are there no power options for desktops on kubuntu
[17:34] <ScorpKing> corporateMusk: you there?
[17:36] <corporateMusk> ScorpKing: right here
[17:36] <ScorpKing> corporateMusk: can you pm?
[17:37] <corporateMusk> ScorpKing: do you see me in pm?
[17:38] <ScorpKing> corporateMusk: yes
[17:39] <ScorpKing> corporateMusk: /msg nickserv register <password>
[17:41] <corporateMusk> /msg
[17:41] <ScorpKing> corporateMusk: no. do it in the main freenode tab and don't put a space before /
[17:42] <MasseR> Apparently the removal of libungif4g will remove mplayer. libungif4g is replaced by libgif
[17:42] <corporateMusk> ScorpKing: yeah, except in fire I don't have a main freenode tab
[17:43] <ScorpKing> corporateMusk: running xp?
[17:44] <corporateMusk> ScorpKing: nah, mac os
[17:44] <ScorpKing> corporateMusk: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:46] <eric1963> hello
[17:46] <eric1963> have some french on this tchat ?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> !fr | eric1963
[17:47] <ubotu> eric1963: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:47] <eric1963> thanks
[17:53] <m-lund>  Running Kubuntu with the kde 4.0.1 packages. I cant' get firefox' javaplugin to work, although it seems to work fine in Firefox. Is this a known problem? It's not listed when i do a scan for plugins...
[17:53] <m-lund> Running nsscanplugins manually I get this line. I think this is for the failing java plugin: tryCheck: Plugin doesn't implement NP_GetValue
[17:55] <jussi01> m-lund: kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[17:55] <m-lund> jussi01: Okay - will try that.
[17:55] <ubuntu_> how can i know the version of kde that i have got?
[17:55] <ubuntu_> I can t speak very good english
[17:56] <llutz> ubuntu_: kde-config -v
[17:56] <ubuntu_> Good, Thanks
[17:58] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_, or you could look in any kde app /help/about kde
[17:59] <chidam__> a good download manager in KDE,any suggestions(not flashgot)....
[18:00] <mefisto__> kget?
[18:01] <m-lund> Hmm - seems like i have the same problem with konqueror 3.5.8 - not able to detect the java plugin when scanning for plugins. But firefox can.
[18:05] <BluesKaj> m-lund, try scanning,afterwards choose the default settings
[18:06] <m-lund> BluesKaj: Tried that. I'm sure it scans the right directories. It founds 2 out of 3 plugins: vlc and flash. But not java....
[18:07] <m-lund> BluesKaj: An I have all the alternatives linked right together. And firefox finds all three of them.
[18:08] <BluesKaj> m-lund, in the konq/settings/ javascript tab / open new windows , choose allow instaed of smart
[18:10] <m-lund> BluesKaj: I don't think it is the issue. Java is not even on the list, after I have scanned for new plugins while other plugins are.
[18:11] <m-lund> BluesKaj: And I know for sure, that it is scanning the right directories.
[18:12] <BluesKaj> m-lund, there is a seperate setting option for java-javascript in konq, make sure you have it set up
[18:13] <chidam__> i recommend using firefox, better than konq in my opinion
[18:14] <BluesKaj> chidam__, i used FF for a while but I'm still using konq if possible, altho it's more difficult to setup it's somewhat safer IMO
[18:15] <m-lund> BluesKaj: Same issue - But I would think I would be able to see the plugin right after having scanned for it. Also nspluginscanner doesn't detect the java-plugin.
[18:15] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: why do you say that?
[18:15] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: i use ff all the time, i find its extensions capabilities way too useful
[18:16] <m-lund> coreymon77: I actually prefer konqueror too... Especially the Web shortcuts build into krunner (alt+f2)
[18:16] <renewip> sorry for my stupid question! will Hardy be released with KDE4 or KDE3?
[18:16] <m-lund> renewip: Both.
[18:17] <coreymon77> i believe the default will be kde3
[18:17] <coreymon77> but there will be kde4 packages
[18:17] <m-lund> renewip: there will be an ordinary KDE3 version. And a user supported KDE4
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ok, m-lund , try this in the terminal : sudo update-alternatives --config java , post your output in pastebin
[18:18] <m-lund> BluesKaj: Only one line: There is only 1 program which provides java... (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[18:21] <ScorpKing> on what port is NFS? i need to open it in iptables so i can mount my NFS disks
[18:23] <rewati> hey i am not getting sound i installed alsa and configured my sound card bit still there is no sound. says device is not present or busy
[18:23] <rewati> can anybody  help
[18:23] <BluesKaj> m-lund, check adept and make sure you have java6-plugin ..also i'm sure java-common is already installed
[18:24] <m-lund> BluesKaj: sun-java6-plugin is installed.
[18:26] <rewati> hey i am not getting sound i installed alsa and configured my sound card bit still there is no sound. says device is not present or busy
[18:27] <rewati> my sound card is 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[18:29] <BluesKaj> rewati, have you open alsamixer in the terminal and unmuted all the ctrls with 'M' key and then set the master and cd and relavent vol ctrls to 71% or so ?
[18:30] <rewati> alsamixer
[18:30] <rewati> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[18:30] <rewati> Blueskaj
[18:30] <rewati> alsamixer
[18:30] <rewati> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[18:31] <BluesKaj> ok no need top repeat , rewati
[18:31] <rewati> this is the thing i am getting while opening alsamixer
[18:32] <BluesKaj> ok, rewati , in the terminal : lspci | grep audio
[18:32] <rewati> Blueskaj its blank
[18:33] <rewati> Blueskaj but when i type lspci | grep -i audio then i get this my sound card is 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[18:34] <BluesKaj> ok rewati , asoundconf set-default-card "Intel Corporation 82801H"
[18:36] <rewati> Blueskaj done
[18:36] <BluesKaj> rewati,  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[18:38] <^Number1^> ciao
[18:39] <BluesKaj> !it | ^Number1^
[18:39] <ubotu> ^Number1^: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:40] <neosaki> o.o
[18:40] <^Number1^> ubotu
[18:40] <^Number1^> sorry
[18:41] <^Number1^> so, hello!
[18:42] <JoshOvki> hi ^Number1^
[18:42] <^Number1^> how are you josh0vki?
[18:43] <Feuerstoff> !annoyingnicknames
[18:43] <JoshOvki> good thankyou, yourself?
[18:45] <ubuntu__> which hoardy alpha has KDE 4.0? I"m running a live CD with Alpha 5 and it's 3.5
[18:46] <Pici> !hardy
[18:46] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__» its a separate CD, go to the main kubuntu website.
[18:46] <ubuntu__> is this not the kubuntu channel?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> Feuerstoff, can't be any worse than that "Administrator" dude
[18:48] <rewati_> blueskaj please repeate wat usaid last time
[18:48] <BluesKaj> rewati,  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[18:50] <JoshOvki> ubuntu__: This is the kubuntu channel, although all kde4 questions should be at  #kubuntu-kde4
[18:52] <ubuntu__> so it's not ok to ask a general question about KDE4 here?
[18:52] <ubuntu__> general = where to get it?
[18:53] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__» yeah... its ok ;) see the top link on www.kubuntu.org
[18:53] <rewati_> blueskaj now there is a progress bar which is in endless loop saying restarting sound
[18:54] <rewati_> blueskaj its again and again sayin 10 30 40 70 80 and again 10 30 40 70 80%
[18:54] <ubuntu__> how do you stop the "dancing icons"? Mouse cursor animations?
[18:55] <JoshOvki> ubuntu__: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha5/Kubuntu   for kde4
[18:55] <ubuntu__> i thought I downloaded it from there, but I"ve got KDE 3.5.9
[18:56] <JoshOvki> on the login screen is there an option to change session type?
[18:57] <JoshOvki> and when installind did you seleft your desktop enviroment to be kde4?
[18:57] <ScorpKing> ubuntu__: in kcontrol
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__» http://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha5/KubuntuKDE4
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> that is the correct link ^^
[18:58] <ubuntu__> jooshOvki: that's where I downloaded it from...
[18:59] <ubuntu__> JoshOvki: I'm trying this one now..http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/hardy/alpha/
[18:59] <ubuntu__> it has KDE4 in the URL
[18:59] <rewati_> blueskaj now there is a progress bar which is in endless loop saying restarting sound
[18:59] <ubuntu__> so i have high hopes
[18:59] <JoshOvki> ok :)
[18:59] <JoshOvki> brb, food time
[18:59] <BluesKaj> close it
[19:00] <BluesKaj> rewati_, close it
[19:00] <rewati_> blueskaj ya i did that
[19:00] <Werzi2001> hi@ll
[19:00] <Werzi2001> ich hätte eine frage und bräuchte eine möglichst schnelle antwort... es eilt ein bisschen ;)
[19:00] <nosrednaekim> !de
[19:00] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:00] <Werzi2001> ich hab einen divx-film (container avi)... wie erstell ich daraus möglichst schnell eine Video-CD?
[19:00] <rewati_> blueskaj  now wat to do??
[19:00] <BluesKaj> rewati, type alsamixer in the konsole
[19:01] <Werzi2001> sorry... didnt see it ;)
[19:01] <rewati_> blueskaj
[19:01] <rewati_> rewati@rewati-laptop:~$ alsamixer
[19:01] <rewati_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[19:03] <BluesKaj> ok, rewati_ you have to find the proper linux driver for your soundcard , go to the intel site
[19:03] <BluesKaj> !intel-sound
[19:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel-sound - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:03] <rewati_> ok
[19:03] <mefisto__> rewati_: "asoundconf list" does that list anything?
[19:03] <rewati_> blueskaj intel site??
[19:04] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, isn't there an issue with intel sound cards on gutsy...seems to me this peoblem is quite common
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> !intelhda
[19:04] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[19:04] <rewati_> blueskaj no
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> yup.... 82801 are killers
[19:05] <mefisto__> this might help too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[19:05] <rewati_> blueskaj no output
[19:06] <BluesKaj> k guys , gotta go for 30mins or so ..BBL
[19:06] <BluesKaj> rewati_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[19:11] <cafka> i have Intel Corporation Mobile GM960 and i cant enable desktop effects :S i have read ubuntu forum post but still dont work any help ?? :S
[19:11] <djdarkman> a friend of mine has wifi problems, how can he tell me what kind of card does he has?
[19:13] <djdarkman> wich command can be used to determine what type of wifi card does he has?
[19:13] <nosrednaekim> lspci
[19:43] <stas_> good evening
[19:43] <Level15> Hi. Is there a channel for the reiser filesystem?
[19:44] <stas_> can someone help me plz with configuring my wlan :( im absolutely new in kubuntu ...
[19:45] <jussi01> stas_: what card do you have?
[19:45] <stas_> i have a avm wlan usb stick
[19:45] <BluesKaj> !reiser | Level15
[19:45] <ubotu> Level15: reiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html
[19:45] <stas_> the driver is installed, but i dont know how to configure it
[19:46] <Arwen> !xfs
[19:46] <ubotu> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[19:46] <ScorpKing> i have wget connecting to verycurious.com for no reason every few seconds. i'm unable to find the script or program that call it. chkrootkit reports nothing. is there any other way i can find out what's goining on?
[19:46] <Arwen> no Windows driver for XFS I see
[19:47] <jussi01> stas_: try right clicking on the network manager icon in your system tray (looks like a network wall plug)
[19:47] <BluesKaj> err windows on XFS?
[19:47] <stas_> yep, i got it and then i activate the wlan
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> !info ubuntufirewall (hardy)
[19:48] <ubotu> Package ubuntufirewall does not exist in hardy
[19:48] <stas_> preferences > activate wireless connections (or something like this. i have the german kubuntu ;) 9
[19:48] <some_dude> my dhcp server keeps failing when I run it from /etc/init.d/ but when I run it manually it works
[19:48] <some_dude> what gives ?
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> !info ufw (hardy)
[19:48] <ubotu> ufw (source: ufw): program for managing a netfilter firewall. In component main, is optional. Version 0.13 (hardy), package size 21 kB, installed size 204 kB
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> some_dude» the init script is apprently doing something wrong
[19:50] <some_dude> I was hoping it was a known issue
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> !info ufw (gutsy)
[19:50] <ubotu> Package ufw does not exist in gutsy
[19:51] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, http://forums.spywareinfo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t73219.html
[19:52] <some_dude> and can someone help me setup ltsp in gusty ?
[19:52] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: thanks. the only info i can find is for windows.
[19:52] <ScorpKing> some_dude: install edubuntu
[19:53] <BluesKaj> yeah ScorpKing , dunno if that'll help
[19:54] <some_dude> well, that's not really what I want to do
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> some_dude» in any case, the guy over at #edubuntu should be able to help you better
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> *guys
[19:55] <some_dude> k, thanks I've got a problem with dhcpd.conf that makes it not boot over the network, but I'll go ask in #edubuntu
[19:57] <ScorpKing> some_dude: you are looking at the wrong file
[19:58] <Erickj92> what is the best IRC client to use?
[19:58] <trappist> Erickj92: duh, irssi
[19:58] <Erickj92> one with a gui
[19:58] <ScorpKing> some_dude: edubuntu use /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf for dhcp btw
[19:58] <llutz> !best
[19:58] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[19:58] <trappist> Erickj92: j/k about the duh thing, see ubotu's comments
[19:59] <trappist> ScorpKing: for a guified client, maybe try xchat or what's the kde one?  kirc?
[19:59] <trappist> err
[19:59] <trappist> that was for Erickj92
[19:59] <llutz> kvirc, konversation
[19:59] <trappist> yeah kvirc
[19:59] <ScorpKing> trappist: konversation ;)
[19:59] <trappist> or konversation :)
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> konversation!
[19:59] <Erickj92> i cant get Konversation to work for my needs
[19:59] <Erickj92> and i really dislike Xchat
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> kvirc then
[20:00] <Erickj92> is kvirc on?
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> or irssi
[20:00] <trappist> Erickj92: you have specific needs and have already eliminated other clients?
[20:00] <trappist> Erickj92: coulda said so.
[20:00] <BluesKaj> Erickj92, explain your needs , perhaps someone can help you
[20:00] <trappist> I sorta grew up on xchat, but then I saw the (irssi) light
[20:01] <JKIceman> how do i get compiz to work, i just canÄt figure it out?
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> JKIceman» ask in #compiz-fusion
[20:01] <jussi01> !compiz | JKIceman
[20:01] <ubotu> JKIceman: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:01] <JKIceman> ok i will thx
[20:01] <jussi01> JKIceman: I assume you have followed those instructions
[20:01] <Erickj92> what im looking for is one that will allow me to connect to multiple networks with ease, and one that has a very nice interface. i dont want it to freeze when getting onto a lot of networks. one that is highly configureable. any ideas?
[20:02] <trappist> Erickj92: totally irssi, if you remove the gui requirement
[20:03] <BluesKaj> try running mirc in wine  :)
[20:03] <Erickj92> would kvirc compare to irssi?
[20:03] <trappist> Erickj92: no, kvirc is gui
[20:03] <Erickj92> i know
[20:03] <llutz> irc means keyboard typing, so why should you want a gui?
[20:03] <jussi01> Erickj92: irssi can look quite nice
[20:03] <trappist> irssi in gnome-terminal, with a nice config, through ssh in a screen with bitlbee... chat nirvana
[20:03] <JKIceman> jussi01: actualy i coun't find the page easily but i knew the bot would give me page ^^ and it worked ^^
[20:04] <jussi01> JKIceman: nice :)
[20:04] <BluesKaj> actually I did try mirc in wine and it ran quite nicely ...if you like mirc
[20:04] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: found the problem :)
[20:04] <BluesKaj> oh yeah ScorpKing, cool  ..share it with us pls :)
[20:04] <trappist> man, running a for-girls win32 client in wine for a protocol with a bazillion free *nix clients is just wrong.
[20:05] <Erickj92> i love mirc, but thus it has the issues of freezing when you get on 60 or more networks
[20:05] <Erickj92> or mean, channels
[20:05] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: it is the superkaramba theme Eggbanjo calling wget www.whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp -O - -q from ip.py
[20:06] <BluesKaj> why so many Erickj92...are you serving something ?
[20:06] <Erickj92> 65 channels
[20:06] <Erickj92> only 5 networks
[20:06] <trappist> Erickj92: irssi can keep up with that easily, but without clickiness it might get tough to navigate at that point, I dunno - never joined that many channels at a time.  but it's extraordinarily configurable, so I'm sure it could be made pretty pleasant.
[20:07] <trappist> by default you hit alt-window-number to switch channel windows, but that's totally configurable
[20:08] <BluesKaj> superkaram - bah :)
[20:09] <vlt> Hello. Where is the default printer for a user stored?
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> vlt» system settings->default apps
[20:10] <vlt> nosrednaekim: No, I mean "where" as in "which file".
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> oh... don't know
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> oh! printer!
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> I read browser somehow...^_^
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> vlt» I believe its whatever is on the top of the printers list
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> in the printer setup config
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> but I don't know about a file
[20:12] <trappist> vlt: ~/.cupsrc
[20:12] <vlt> trappist: Thank you.
[20:13] <vlt> trappist: no such file
[20:13] <trappist> vlt: use the lpoptions command to set it
[20:13] <trappist> vlt: no, not by default :)
[20:13] <trappist> vlt: http://www.cups.org/doc-1.1/sum.html#5_6
[20:13] <vlt> And where _is_ it actually stored now?
[20:14] <trappist> I believe in ~/.cupsrc
[20:15] <vlt> trappist: But there is no such file. When I start kde there is set a default printer for the user. Where does this info come from?
[20:16] <trappist> vlt: that's the systemwide default, which is your default until you set a user-specific one
[20:16] <vlt> trappist: Yes, but I have set a user specific one AND ~/.cupsrc doesn't exist ...
[20:17] <trappist> vlt: then I'm wrong about where it's stored :)  do you have a ~/.lpoptions?
[20:18] <trappist> ah, ~/.cups/lpoptions
[20:18] <vlt> trappist: Yes! ~/.lpoptions
[20:18] <trappist> as discovered by saying strace -e trace=file lpoptions -d samsung
[20:18] <trappist> <3 strace
[20:19] <trappist> oh wow it checks a lot of things, includeing .cupsrc, .cups/client.conf, .lpoptions, .cups/lpoptions and so on
[20:20] <trappist> strace -e trace=file lpoptions -d samsung 2>&1 | grep /home/
[20:20] <Dorwin6> hi guys, is there any wireless manager that I can use for #kubuntu instead of using knetworkmanager
[20:21] <trappist> Dorwin6: kwifimanager
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> wicd workstoo
[20:21] <Dorwin6> trappist : does it domes with standard installation or do I have to install it by myself?
[20:21] <Dorwin6> !wicd
[20:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:21] <trappist> prolly have to install it yourself
[20:21] <trappist> !info kwifimanager
[20:21] <BluesKaj> !wireless | Dorwin6
[20:21] <ubotu> kwifimanager (source: kdenetwork): wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 236 kB, installed size 804 kB
[20:22] <ubotu> Dorwin6: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:22] <trappist> so yeah, it's in universe
[20:22] <Dorwin6> thanks
[20:24] <swatto> what disassembler is available for kubuntu please?
[20:24] <swatto> its ok solved
[20:27] <trappist> swatto: whatcha usin
[20:27] <swatto> i think its gcc
[20:28] <swatto> with the -S option
[20:28] <tdn> How do I change the time zone of my server?
[20:30] <trappist> tdn: sudo tzselect
[20:30] <llutz> dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[20:32] <tdn> llutz, worked. Thanks.
[20:35] <rami> why dont the chimes to the different things like when KDE is started make any sound?
[20:38] <tinin> !kde4
[20:38] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:39] <tinin> :(
[20:39] <tinin> !KDE 4.0.2
[20:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde 4.0.2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> tinin» coming soon!
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> tinin» an hour or two
[20:39] <tinin> I have just installed it,
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> oh... heh
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> :)
[20:39] <tinin> but I can not log in into it
[20:40] <intelikey> ??? Totem could not play 'file:///disks/cdrw-dvdr/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB'.
[20:40] <intelikey> You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[20:40] <intelikey> the necessary plugins ?
[20:40] <tinin> I'm going to reboot nosrednaekim
[20:42] <trappist> intelikey: libdvdread?  libdvdcss?
[20:43] <dthacker-work> .VOB?
[20:43] <dthacker-work> !VOB
[20:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vob - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:43] <intelikey> trappist i have both of those
[20:44] <intelikey> ii  libdvdnav4                        0.1.9-3
[20:44] <intelikey> ii  libdvdread3                       0.9.4-5.1
[20:44] <dthacker-work> hmm, wikipedia says use vlc
[20:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey» what in the world are you doing out of the console?
[20:44] <intelikey> i have that too  but shouldn't totem be able to play .vob ?
[20:45] <dthacker-work> day off?
[20:45] <intelikey> nosrednaekim long story.   and very OT
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> intelikey» :) you probably need the ugly gstreamer plugins
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> and bad... and the rest
[20:46] <intelikey> :)
[20:46] <lendek> hell
[20:46] <lendek> o
[20:46] <intelikey> hell to you too lendek
[20:46] <intelikey> o
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> heh
[20:47] <intelikey> ok vlc it is.   and if i have to use vlc anyway, i'll do that from console....
[20:48] <intelikey> svgalibs and vlc == more fun than a wet dog at a wedding
[20:49] <dthacker-work> hehe
[21:12] <dushara> Where does the function setlocale get it's info from? - I hop this is the right channel for this.
[21:13] <robnyc> I was logged into kde3 trying to remove all the kde4 stuff .. and it stood in 35% removing KDM and didnt move from there so i closed the apps after a few hours.. now i cant get back into adept and terminal says the dpkg is locked
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> !adpetfix
[21:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adpetfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[21:13] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:16] <t0m4> re
[21:19] <argonel> after updating to 7.10 konq won't load any pages, throws this "ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.8/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)" 4 times
[21:22] <limbeaux> does anyone know the name of an ftp portal?  something where users can upload files then have link generated and email to a recipient?
[21:23] <limbeaux> i googled ftp portal and i get 100000 of links to company ftp portals
[21:23] <limbeaux> doesn't have to be ftp -- can be any type of upload
[21:24] <Dorwin6> limbeaux : www.rapidshare.de or www.megauploads.com
[21:28] <limbeaux> thanks for the tip,  but i need to host it myself
[21:31] <bitbot> g
[21:32] <prince_jammys> limbeaux: an old one is oth.net
[21:33] <prince_jammys> limbeaux: i think it's still around. you list your ftp server there
[21:33] <lod__air> hi, I like to ask for an advice before reporting a bug. I'm using both kde and gnome's desktops and when kdm is running i have only "logout" option in Kmenu, but if i run gdm as frontend i've got all (shutdown, restart, suspend and etc..) i've tried changeing kdm runlevel in all rc.d from S13 to S31 but no use..
[21:34] <limbeaux> thanks prince_jammys
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> lod__air» are you running compiz?
[21:35] <lod__air> yes
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> lod__air» yeah.. thats a known problem
[21:36] <lod__air> realy?
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> yup.... google it
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> there are fixes
[21:37] <Ertain> Hello everyone.
[21:37] <lod__air> can you show me a link? i dont know what to search for
[21:37] <limbeaux> any comments on the alpha with kde4, usable or not yet usable?
[21:37] <lod__air> useable
[21:38] <limbeaux> i am intermediate at best on linux  so i have been hesitant
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> lod__air» oh wait... are you using XG:?
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> *XGL
[21:39] <lod__air> yes
[21:39] <limbeaux> i installed kde4 on 7.10, but it seems to be buggy and i get errors on network browsing
[21:39] <Ertain> In Adept, and in the repositories I'm using, when I click to upgrade (though not commiting the packs) it says it's going to remove a lot of KDE system packs.  Can anyone shine any light on this?  I'm using the KDE4 repository that's suggested in the Wiki, but I doubt that's the problem.
[21:39] <niall_> limbeaux:  I'm using it right now. Plasma has crashed once in the past three days, but immediately restored. The worst problem I have is that the KDE Control Centre network setting module doesn't work, so I had to manually write a smb.conf  to share files. Otherwise it's fine.
[21:39] <lod__air> and i'm with alfa and have no 3d
[21:40] <lod__air> from personal exp. if something in kde craches over and over
[21:40] <lod__air> i delete the .kde4 folder into the home dir
[21:40] <lod__air> and all is fine
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> lod__air» http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-423580.html
[21:41] <limbeaux> cool i will try that.  should i have to load up kde3 programs to configure things?  example: i cannot find where to set desktop resolution in kde4
[21:42] <Ertain> KRandRTray should be able to set the resolution.
[21:43] <limbeaux> ahh i looked in system configuration
[21:43] <Ertain> So anyway, about that update...
[21:44] <Erickj92> when a stable version of kiba-dock comes out, will i be able to do a sudo apt-get install to get it?
[21:47] <lod__air> i havn't found any solution
[21:57] <Y-Town> anyone know a good website to learn about the linux directory structure.  I would really like to learn what each has to do with the system
[22:01] <genii> Y-Town: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[22:08] <jerrino77> hello everybody
[22:09] <Y-Town> genthanks
[22:09] <Y-Town> genii: thanks
[22:10] <jerrino77> a question for all you.. I have to download Kubuntu, for my new Quad ore.. which version?? i386 or amd64??
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> jerrino77» how much ram do you have?
[22:14] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, he prolly has at least 2G
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» its if he has 4 thats going to make the difference
[22:17] <BluesKaj> yeah nosrednaekim, but 64bit is still not totally supported by non default media apps ,for example.
[22:18] <genii> Y-Town: You're welcome
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» yup.
[22:19] <zyp1> anyone that can help me with libungif4g dependencies? I'm wondering about reporting this to launchpad or not: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58427/
[22:21] <jerrino77> nosrednaekim: 2Gb
[22:21] <alesan> somebody knows where thunderbirds keeps SMTP passwords?
[22:23] <nosrednaekim> jerrino77» i'd reccomend 32 bit then
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> i386
[22:24] <jerrino77> nosrednaekim: thanks a lot..
[22:31] <noam_> uh i have a question. i've downloaded the kubuntu kde4 alpha release and am running it in a virtual machine (qemu). what's supposed to happen? when i'm loading it as a livecd it loads a BusyBox shell
[22:31] <noam_> do alpha versions not load the graphic interface automatically?
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> noam_» no, that is not supposed to happen
[22:33] <noam_> uh
[22:33] <noam_> will a screenshot provide more information?
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> no.. I know what you are talking about.
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> noam_» I believe it was a reported bug.
[22:34] <noam_> a bug in kqemu or in kubuntu?
[22:34] <noam_> qemu, not kqemu sorry
[22:34] <noam_> if i install it, will it work normally then?
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> noam_» you mean burn it to a CD?
[22:35] <noam_> i don't want to reboot and burn etc, i meant install the "live cd" on the "hard drive" on the virtual machine
[22:36] <nelix__> oi
[22:36] <lateral_link> hola
[22:36] <DeliciousCookies> hello
[22:36] <nelix__> ur is br?
[22:36] <nelix__> you is from brazilian?
[22:36] <nelix__> ?
[22:37] <LjL> !br
[22:37] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:37] <DeliciousCookies> Question: I got a bytecc eces2 express card I believe it uses the Sil3132 driver, how do I install that?
[22:37] <nelix__> LJL
[22:37] <nelix__> ALGUEM AKI EH BRASILEIRO?????????????
[22:37] <nelix__> FALA PORTUGUES?
[22:37] <nelix__> Somebody speak Portugues?
[22:37] <SlimeyPete> !portuguese
[22:37] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:37] <nelix__> Yes, portuguese.
[22:39] <DeliciousCookies> anyone can help me with my problem?
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> which is?
[22:39] <jolop> Quien tiene controlador para impresora "Canon Pixma 150"
[22:40] <tekteen> !es
[22:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:40] <siddbuda> hey
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> hey siddbuda
[22:40] <siddbuda> yes?
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> yes?
[22:41] <siddbuda> u talking to me?
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> siddbuda» are you talking to me?
[22:41] <jolop> yes.
[22:41] <DeliciousCookies> Question: I got a bytecc eces2 express card I believe it uses the Sil3132 driver, how do I install that?
[22:42] <jolop> I am sorry, not idea.
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> DeliciousCookies» uhh whats that doo?
[22:43] <siddbuda> nosrednekim you seem to be a bot, are you?
[22:43] <jolop> yes I am.
[22:44] <siddbuda> hahahahahaha
[22:44] <siddbuda> that was a good one :)
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> siddbuda» IDK, are you?
[22:44] <jolop> I really dont know what it is.
[22:44] <siddbuda> oye jolop, tengo la impresión que te llamas josé lópez, jejeje
[22:45] <jolop> Porque lo sabes.?
[22:45] <siddbuda> nah, me lo imagino, puede ser jorge, o algún otro :)
[22:46] <jolop> Y como me conoces.?
[22:46] <prince_jammys> !es
[22:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:46] <siddbuda> entré a ver qué movimiento hay aquí, estoy probando Kubuntu LiveCD, ya tengo instalado Ubuntu Studio con Gnome, pero estoy probando con KDE, a ver si me convence
[22:46] <siddbuda> no, no te conozco
[22:47] <jolop> Yo no tengo mucha idea de como funciona esta, se parece al Linux.
[22:48] <tekteen> !es
[22:48] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:48] <jolop> Porque te imaginas que me llame Jose Lopez.?
[22:48] <prince_jammys> jo lop
[22:49] <siddbuda> porque tengo mucha imaginación, ándale jammy, por eso
[22:49] <jolop> Tienes tazon, que poco original.
[22:49] <siddbuda> jajajaja, igual el mío
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> !es!
[22:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> !es
[22:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:51] <siddbuda> well, i only wanted to try this irc client in kde, i already have ubuntu studio (gnome) installed, but i want to be sure if i keep that desktop environment, or i'm moving to kde
[22:51] <prince_jammys> go K!
[22:51] <prince_jammys> :)
[22:51] <siddbuda> is there anything similar to compiz in kde? i DO love those effects !!
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> siddbuda: Which client?
[22:51] <prince_jammys> !compiz
[22:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> siddbuda» you can use compiz in kde
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> siddbuda: Yeah, kde works with compiz.
[22:52] <siddbuda> Konversation IRC Client
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> siddbuda: ... to the extent that compiz works at all.
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> siddbuda: Ah, I like konversation, and I believe it'll run in gnome as well.
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> (will need some kde libs, won't give you the shared code advantage, but...
[22:53] <siddbuda> hey thank you very much all of you, i already took note of the link, i guess i'll make my move to KDE
[22:55] <DeliciousCookies> ok i hooked up my ehd through esata it thinks its sda1 the primary and i get the hud uid-1000 error
[22:56] <siddbuda> ok, now i know the new name is compiz fusion, i thought i had to use the beryl instead
[22:57] <siddbuda> thank you all, c u later!
[22:58] <siddbuda> jolop>> suerte con la búsqueda de tu controlador
[23:06] <jolop> Gracias.
[23:08] <pulaski> hello, I run kubuntu 7.10 gutsy.  What is the correct python bang path?
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> pulaski» /usr/bin/python
[23:09] <pulaski> thank you norednaekim
[23:13] <etfb> I'm having battery problems on my Kubuntu laptop.  Last week I bought a new 4400mAh battery. Today, it's reporting a capacity of 4075mAh.  Is there something in Kubuntu that could be causing the battery to die?
[23:14] <icanhasadmin> So I'm full of questions today.
[23:15] <jussi01> icanhasadmin: go on then
[23:15] <jussi01> (love the nick btw)
[23:16] <Bizzeh> hey, does the 7.10 installer detect vista as another OS on the drive and set boot information in grub for it?
[23:17] <khaije> is there a way to make the powertop changes permenant using powertop?
[23:19] <Strangelet> Hay guys, could anyone here recommend a fine KDE gnutella client? Something like gtk-gnutella. :)
[23:19] <Bizzeh> gtk-gnutella
[23:19] <Bizzeh> just install gtk
[23:19] <Strangelet> No alternatives exist? :\
[23:19] <khaije> Strangelet: appollon is good, not sure if it does gnutella
[23:20] <khaije> !appollon
[23:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about appollon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh» i'm not sure actually, I would think so though,haven't heard any complaints of it not
[23:20] <Strangelet> apollon, I found it. :P
[23:20] <Strangelet> !apollon
[23:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apollon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:21] <khaije> Strangelet: i liked it when i used it ~1.5 yrs ago, it has a plugin for gnutella
[23:21] <Bizzeh> nosrednaekim: ok, thing is, i need a definate answer
[23:21] <khaije> it's essentially a frontend for gIFT lib
[23:21] <Bizzeh> i cant risk messing the computer up at work, by putting kubuntu on it for 10 mins to test some stuff
[23:21] <Strangelet> khaije: Hm, I will put into consideration, I will go lurking about, searching for other options. Thanks man. :)
[23:21] <nosrednaekim> anyone here have vista?
[23:22] <pulaski> nosrednaekim: sorry but I've checked all perms, locations etc but when I use your suggestion I get this message:unable to execute ./myremove_all.py: Permission denied
[23:22] <icanhasadmin> pulaski: chmod +x?
[23:23] <icanhasadmin> Ok, So i have this crappy radeon xpress 200m card... GLX doesn't run, well it does, but about as slow as (edit). Any chance of aiglx or fglrx running something like awm or compiz reasonably?
[23:24] <pulaski> I've checked all the perms, the symlink and its target but the message is the same.
[23:24] <Bizzeh> icanhasadmin: get fglrx on there first
[23:24] <icanhasadmin> Bizzeh: I'm guessing I probabaly shouldn't use the repos? I can get the newest catlyst drivers from the site...
[23:25] <Bizzeh> newest ones from the site are your best bet
[23:25] <icanhasadmin> pulaski: I understand.. but did you TRY "chmod +x /myremove_all.py".. just for fun?
[23:26] <icanhasadmin> Bizzeh: So does that mean there's some hope? or i'm guessing there's some crazy work around i'll need to find after i install this..
[23:26] <Bizzeh> once you install fglrx... your hardware acceleration will actualy be working
[23:26] <julien__> hey, i am french, and i have a problem whith kubuntu sound's ! Help me or give me a link
[23:26] <prince_jammys> !fr
[23:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» actually the 8.03 drivers work very well here.
[23:27] <Jucato> !sound
[23:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> same chip
[23:27] <julien__> thank you for the link
[23:27] <julien__> i go bye
[23:28] <pulaski> icanhasadmin: yes I just did to know avail.
[23:28] <pulaski> icanhasadmin: yes I just did to no avail.
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> I will try, last time I installed flgrx compiz wouldn't react to it, like i had no acceration installed at all. it will show up in the restricted drivers manager right?
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> pulaski: that's really really odd. never run into anything chmod +x didn't fix. atleast not a permission problem
[23:30] <Bizzeh> icanhasadmin: im not sure then, first thing i do when installing a new copy of any linux dist is get fglrx on here, because standard ati drivers blow
[23:31] <icanhasadmin> 8.03 it is.. getting now.
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin» http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[23:32] <LadyNikon> hey.. how do i change the screen resolution?
[23:32] <icanhasadmin> :P yeah thanks heh
[23:32] <icanhasadmin> i can only find the 8.2 on ati's site..
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> thats good enough
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> LadyNikon» sstem settings->monitor
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> or maybe it display
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> *its
[23:33] <LadyNikon> thats what i get for being so used to ubuntu >.<
[23:35] <meox> hey
[23:35] <meox> hello?
[23:35] <mmance> in 7.10 root is disabled by default right?
[23:35] <meox> uhhh...
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> mmance» yes
[23:36] <mmance> does that mean that all users are automatically added to the sudoers file?
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> hi meox
[23:36] <meox> hey'
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> mmance» nope, only the first
[23:36] <meox> thank god someone answerd me :D
[23:36] <mmance> hmm, and if your first created user is all of a sudden not in sudoers anymore
[23:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> so on the plus side, you still have an admin user, and you can secure things by default with other users being limited.  and that's A Good Thing (TM)
[23:36] <mmance> (might have been owned)
[23:37] <meox> im trying out konversation to make shure it works
[23:37] <mith_> i have a monitor and a tv plugged in the vide card. can i show the tv screen on my monitor as a simple window?
[23:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> then you could have a problem...  i have no clue how that would work
[23:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> mith_: uh...  that's tv output
[23:37] <meox> also im trying to get the IRC chat here http://live.pirillo.com i know it uses wildryde can i get the chat on konversation?
[23:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you had an INPUT card, you could do it that way
[23:38] <mith_> it's a tv out
[23:38] <meox> anyone
[23:38] <meox> help
[23:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> mith_: yeah, tv *out*
[23:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> not in
[23:38] <meox> plz
[23:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're not getting tv on your monitor that way, unfortunately
[23:39] <pulaski> icanhasadmin, thanks I got it to work my moving myremvoe_all.py to ~/
[23:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> meox: if you knew the address of the irc server, you hsould be alright connecting through konversation
[23:39] <icanhasadmin> pulaski: great :) glad it worked out
[23:39] <meox> how do i find the wyldryde IRC adress
[23:39] <icanhasadmin> So, it appears I already have fglrx installed and working properly, go figure.
[23:40] <icanhasadmin> Does that mean compiz should work without glx loaded?
[23:40] <mith_> i have searched for it or something in dcop about my tv screen...and googled it...hmm ... it looks like i must write a program my own for it :)
[23:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...
[23:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> mith_: are you just not listening?
[23:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> TV-OUT means it OUTPUTS a video signal TO the tv.  it DOES NOT input a signal FROM the tv.
[23:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> meox: try irc.wyldride.org (i think)
[23:41] <icanhasadmin> OH, nevermind. apparently i have to start compiz and tell it not to check for glx.. YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT y'know ;) ;)
[23:41] <mith_> i know that...i don't watch the tv programs...i know it's output... i'm not stupid... my tv works as a secondary monitor
[23:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, your question didn't make any sense
[23:42] <icanhasadmin> oo.. or i can just add the fglrx driver to the whitelist in compiz...
[23:42] <mith_> and i want a small window on my primary monitor the actually pic inside that...which shows what's going on my secondary monitor (it's the tv)
[23:42] <icanhasadmin> fun
[23:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> you want a thumbnailed version of the output to the second monitor
[23:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay...
[23:43] <mith_> yes yes :)
[23:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> NOW i understand, my apologies
[23:43] <icanhasadmin> Wait, mith, can't you just.. turn your head and look at it?
[23:43]  * icanhasadmin grins
[23:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> in that case, i have absolutely no idea
[23:44] <mith_> icanhasadmin:  there is a wardrobe between my pc and my tv...
[23:45] <icanhasadmin> mith_: now i see your predicament
[23:45] <icanhasadmin> what video drivers you use?
[23:46] <mith_> icanhasadmin: the newest restricted nvidia driver (from envy)
[23:47] <icanhasadmin> Ah, there's a subject I know absolutely nothing about. again, very sorry :/
[23:47] <icanhasadmin> brb, need reboot x
[23:49] <mith_> hmm it looks like i can do this with vlc i've googled for other words...
[23:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> !envy
[23:52] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:53] <jhutchins> mith_: Interesting, vlc within the same system?
[23:55] <mith_> Daisuke_Laptop: okay i will remove it....
[23:56] <mith_> jhutchins: i don't know, but it can get a chance...
[23:57] <jhutchins> mith_: I think you would have to have a secondary output from the actual program redirected to your other desktop.
[23:58] <mith_> jhutchins: yes i found the option in vlc, i test it in a few moments
[23:59] <icanhasadmin> So compiz won't start
[23:59] <icanhasadmin> fglrx is well, i even whitelisted it for compiz
[23:59] <icanhasadmin> even tried skip check (if my syntax was right)
[23:59] <icanhasadmin> gives me the classic "Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present." error