RyanPrior | Why doesn't Ubuntu have any default templates in ~/.templates? | 00:09 |
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Dr_willis | I always delete those anyway | 00:10 |
RyanPrior | Dr_willis: A blank text file, a blank OpenOffice document... installing the Eclipse package should add a Java template, and so on... | 00:11 |
RyanPrior | Sure you could delete them, but I think it would be useful to have some stuff in there. | 00:11 |
Dr_willis | i find the users home dirs are getting way too cluttered these days | 00:17 |
ysth1 | RyanPrior: packages shouldn't install stuff in ~. maybe they do put stuff in e.g. /usr/share/templates? | 00:18 |
cyphase | Does anyone know why the repositories dialog in Synaptic has been changed so much? | 00:18 |
Dr_willis | I thought ive seen a Examples in the users home dir Linked to /usr/Somthing/examples befor.. or similer | 00:21 |
X_ | I have alpha 6 fever! :D | 00:39 |
mooboo1 | me too :D | 00:40 |
mooboo1 | cant wait | 00:40 |
mooboo1 | even though its future freeze | 00:40 |
X_ | constantly refreshing the wiki page | 00:40 |
mooboo1 | so no cool new stuff | 00:40 |
mooboo1 | constantl apt-get update :p | 00:41 |
mooboo1 | think alpha6 is in 2 days | 00:41 |
X_ | I tried alpha 5, loved it | 00:41 |
X_ | yep, BUT I CANT WAIT MUST HAFV IT NOW! :D | 00:41 |
mooboo1 | ya alpha5 was good | 00:41 |
mooboo1 | :D | 00:41 |
X_ | \o/ | 00:42 |
Aeroraptor-M | can you upgrade to 6 from inside 5 or do you have to start over? | 00:43 |
X_ | I tend to just format and start over | 00:44 |
mooboo1 | March 6th -- Alpha 6 | 00:48 |
mooboo1 | Aeroraptor-M, you can upgrade | 00:48 |
Aeroraptor-M | mooboo1, ah, coolness | 00:48 |
Galga | hi | 01:04 |
Galga | where can i check for new stuff included in Hardy | 01:05 |
ysth1 | wow, Galga waited 189 seconds for an answer before leaving | 01:18 |
Daisuke_Ido | a new record | 01:21 |
Dr_willis | Long-term-discussions. :) | 01:31 |
Dr_willis | when it takes 3 hrs for someone to reply to your 'hi!' :) | 01:31 |
mcquaid | just curious, when I look at the release schedule all the releases seem to be labeled as alpha builds. Is there a reason none are listed as beta? | 01:37 |
Dr_willis | I thoght we went from alpha to rc, for 'release canidate' | 01:37 |
ysth1 | there's a beta release scheduled for 2008-03-20 | 01:38 |
ysth1 | (but not noted in the Notes column) | 01:39 |
mcquaid | yes i see the rc. I guess I'm asking is why none listed as beta | 01:39 |
ysth1 | rc is 2008-04-17 | 01:39 |
mcquaid | ah yes i see | 01:39 |
mcquaid | i was looking at the notes column | 01:39 |
Dr_willis | i find it easier to just wait till 2 weeks after the thing is officially released to worry about the next release. :) | 01:40 |
Dr_willis | but here i am testingit out.. heh | 01:40 |
mcquaid | sometimes, i grab it early. I think for gutsy, i just waited a couple of weeks afterwards, but some features i'm liking in this release | 01:41 |
mcquaid | what gives me pause in updating early is the issue with certain cdrom drives and the supposed instability of the new gnome vfs | 01:41 |
Dr_willis | I wonder if the samba/network share browsing stuff has gotten fixed yet. havnt updated in 4 days.. | 01:42 |
Dr_willis | thats the only issue ive seen. | 01:42 |
Dr_willis | but i aint been doing a lot with it | 01:43 |
mcquaid | not sure. i'll probably wait for the next alpha at least before giving it a try | 01:52 |
EmmerP | some more people problems with ATI + AIGLX the last weeks? | 01:52 |
EmmerP | my X crashes when using it | 01:52 |
ethana2 | this brother printer is driving me insane | 01:53 |
ethana2 | DCP-7020 | 01:53 |
ethana2 | it's fully supported with gpl code | 01:53 |
ethana2 | but it not only doesn't Just Work | 01:53 |
ethana2 | it just doesn't work | 01:54 |
ethana2 | it's trying to use the driver for the dcp-7025 | 01:54 |
ethana2 | does any of the 182 people in here have a brother printer? | 01:54 |
mindrape | nope. | 01:55 |
mindrape | we all use canon | 01:55 |
mindrape | j/k | 01:55 |
ethana2 | i would expect you to use HP | 01:55 |
mindrape | I dont own a printer actually... I'm part of the digital revolution. | 01:55 |
ethana2 | i wish i could be too | 01:55 |
ethana2 | my mom uses paper | 01:55 |
mindrape | paper is so 1999. | 01:55 |
ethana2 | yes it needs to die | 01:56 |
ethana2 | in the mean time.. | 01:56 |
mindrape | well what is your brother problem? | 01:56 |
ethana2 | i want a tablet | 01:56 |
mindrape | cant get cups to recognize it? | 01:56 |
ethana2 | the dcp-7020 doesn't work | 01:56 |
ethana2 | it just.. refuses to function | 01:56 |
ethana2 | and because it has fully open drivers, i would expect it to Just Work | 01:56 |
ethana2 | it's not even in the printer list though | 01:57 |
TheArthur | is it reasonable to upgrade to hardy by changing my sources.list and running apt-get update? | 01:57 |
mindrape | http://localhost:631/admin <--- you doing it that route? | 01:57 |
ethana2 | so it tells me to use the stuff for the dcp-7025 instead | 01:57 |
mindrape | TheArthur - sure. | 01:57 |
ethana2 | no, I'll try that | 01:57 |
ethana2 | it sees it | 01:59 |
ethana2 | seems to identify it correctly | 01:59 |
ethana2 | ...sent test page annndd.... | 01:59 |
ethana2 | printer does nothing, but the job is reported as done | 02:00 |
ethana2 | all my print jobs are silently failing | 02:00 |
ethana2 | ok, how do i print via terminal to diagnose this? | 02:03 |
ethana2 | Error: no "print" mailcap rules found | 02:05 |
ethana2 | that error is universal over formats | 02:06 |
ethana2 | how do I fix that? | 02:06 |
mindrape | sounds like a job for google ethana2 | 02:14 |
amblin | how do you specify a range of ports in UFW? | 02:15 |
ethana2 | finally found it | 02:26 |
ethana2 | it'd be nice if Ubuntu would do this by itself though | 02:26 |
ethana2 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4026344#post4026344 | 02:26 |
ysth1 | TheArthur: or use update-manager -d | 02:28 |
amblin | anyone... can you specify a port range in UFW? | 02:28 |
Milos_SD | is there any problem with busybox update? I don't want to do the update before I know that there is no problems with it. :) | 03:02 |
igorgue | hi guys, you may remember me from the movie "I DONT HAVE WIRELESS" 1 and 2 | 03:05 |
igorgue | but seriously, I don't | 03:05 |
igorgue | iwl3945abg | 03:05 |
igorgue | I heard that the led was not working | 03:06 |
igorgue | but I don't get working the network even the led :( | 03:06 |
igorgue | how can I know which version of the driver do I have? | 03:06 |
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insta | hey guys, i'm seeing a *very* sluggish machine after upgrading to hardy. it's a core2 @ 1.83ghz, 2GB DDR2 ram, SATA HDD, i915 chipset with compiz enabled ... everything is slow, but it's especially noticable switching between windows | 03:41 |
insta | xdriinfo reports i915 on screen 0 | 03:41 |
efren20 | hey were do i download Hardy Heron Alpha | 03:42 |
getoo | efren20: are u running gutsy | 03:45 |
efren20 | yes | 03:51 |
efren20 | found another solution problem is i need to compile my ipod or something like that can you help me> | 03:51 |
bazhang | efren20: probably not a good idea to run Hardy to solve your iPod problem--though libgpod is 0.6.0, it is still early alpha; I posted a link in #ubuntu for you to follow on how to get that going. | 04:00 |
Kano | CarlFK: did you try pxe boot and live mode? | 04:01 |
CarlFK | Kano: not yet. still have your notes in my pxe/default though | 04:01 |
CarlFK | Kano: I did just figure out how to pxe boot qemu | 04:01 |
Kano | i guess you need a tun device, i usually use virtual box with internal emulated net | 04:02 |
efren20 | is there any drawing program where you draw something and could make it live like walk fire etc... | 04:03 |
Kano | i wrote a script that configures the tftpboot dir (i even enabled a text menu) | 04:04 |
Kano | and support live-helper + casper images | 04:04 |
Kano | pretty tricky, also setups tftpd and dnsmasq | 04:05 |
Kano | http://kanotix.com/files/fix/casper-terminalserver/casper-terminalserver.sh | 04:05 |
Kano | if you run that in live mode | 04:05 |
CarlFK | any idea how one pxe boot can boot a 2nd pxe/default | 04:05 |
AnswerGuy | efren20: you mean animation software? | 04:06 |
efren20 | yes | 04:06 |
Kano | you only need ot change the DEVICE line to point to the currently not used device which is connected to the clients | 04:06 |
efren20 | for ubuntu 7.10 gusty gnome | 04:06 |
efren20 | or anything that works in it idc | 04:06 |
ysth1 | 8.04 hardly hobgoblin? | 04:06 |
Kano | CarlFK: well you could define a file for each client | 04:07 |
Kano | mac address or ip adress based | 04:08 |
AnswerGuy | efren20: I don't know of anything that would be specific to Hardy Heron (this channel is about future versions of Ubuntu; general Ubuntu questions should be posted to the #ubuntu channel) | 04:08 |
CarlFK | Kano: same client. my default file is getting pretty big, and I would rather not have to merge other defaults into it | 04:09 |
AnswerGuy | Doing a quick freshmeat search on "animation" (http://www.freshmeat.net/?q=animation ) shows 119 projects | 04:09 |
AnswerGuy | But many are like MPlayer (irrelevant to creating your own) | 04:09 |
CarlFK | heh | 04:09 |
AnswerGuy | Might take a look at Blender; I've heard good things about it. | 04:10 |
CarlFK | check out blender - i think it does... that. | 04:10 |
Kano | CarlFK: did you ever try to define another file via pxelinux.configfile? just look into the syslinux doc files | 04:10 |
CarlFK | no. i gave up too quick - eaiser to just cut/paste into one big file.... | 04:11 |
AnswerGuy | Gifsicle (command line tool for creating ... GIFs and animations | 04:11 |
AnswerGuy | As for as I know the usual technique ... just using things like the GIMP is to make your base image ... then copy it, modify the copy ... and so on; and I guess some people use morphing software to automate some of the transitions from one animation cel to another | 04:12 |
bazhang | Blender would do | 04:14 |
AnswerGuy | GIMP allows you to have multiple layers, so you can have one image on a layer and work on the new cell frame on a different layer (which can be partially "faded out" while you work, just for your reference and is masked away completely when you save the new cel/frame. | 04:15 |
AnswerGuy | But I honestly have no experience in animation and very little in graphics work in general | 04:15 |
AnswerGuy | I see there are several #blender* channels here on Freenode; and presumably there's at least one #gimp channel, too | 04:17 |
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hdevalence | what version of X does hardy use? | 04:21 |
dareii | 7.3 i think | 04:21 |
hdevalence | hmm | 04:22 |
dareii | anyone know if 8.04 hardy will have OO.0 2.4 | 04:22 |
hdevalence | i'm being affected by this bug http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10674 and it says it's been fixed upstream. That would mean that 7.3 probably fixes it, right? | 04:23 |
ubotu | Wine bug 10674 in directx-d3d "Wine Unhandled Page Fault with i965 video driver" [Major,Closed: invalid] | 04:23 |
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wastrel | i reported a bug | 05:11 |
CarlFK | 198110 "Fix Released" - how long does it take for that fix to migrate to us.archive.u.c? | 05:18 |
phax | I am trying to install my printer on Gutsy but it requires the latest version of HPLIP which is not present in Gutsy but is there in Hardy, any pointers on what I should do ? | 05:20 |
CarlFK | is your goal to print or find bugs? | 05:22 |
phax | to print | 05:22 |
CarlFK | then you should wait | 05:22 |
phax | oh | 05:22 |
phax | what if I install the newever version of HPLIP from source? | 05:22 |
phax | then I should not expect things to work smoothly I guess | 05:23 |
CarlFK | depends on if you do it right | 05:23 |
Nuke_ | is gdesklets broken for anyone else? | 05:24 |
IdleOne | phax, you could also upgrade but not recommended if you dont feel like looking for bugs and fixing/help fix them | 05:26 |
wastrel | i'm not looking for bugs, they seem to find me | 05:29 |
Nuke_ | serious question: why is everything with strange bugs written in python? is there something about the language the lends itself to brokenness? | 05:30 |
CarlFK | Nuke_: it might be because most of the things being written use python | 05:31 |
CarlFK | would you expect to find a cobol bug? | 05:31 |
phax | IdleOne, thanks understand. | 05:32 |
Nuke_ | all complaining aside, is it just incompatibility? new versions of python break old code? | 05:34 |
CarlFK | Nuke_: you have it backwards | 05:37 |
hydrogen | buggy code is buggy? | 05:38 |
CarlFK | it is easy to use, so it is used for most things. | 05:38 |
CarlFK | more code = more bugs | 05:38 |
hydrogen | no, easier to use = more bugs because more people are writing it without understanding proper coding methodologies | 05:39 |
hdevalence | would it be possible to install xorg 7.3 from hardy on my gutsy install? | 05:39 |
RAOF | hdevalence: No. | 05:39 |
CarlFK | if everything was writtin in basic, then the bugs would be in code written in basic | 05:39 |
hdevalence | RAOF: so I would need to use hardy? | 05:40 |
RAOF | hdevalence: Pretty much, yes. | 05:40 |
hdevalence | gah | 05:40 |
hdevalence | i want battlefield 2142 to work, and there's a bug that's fixed in 7.3 that stops it :( | 05:40 |
hydrogen | CarlFK: yet there are far more parts of the system written in c/c++ than python, and look where the bugs are popping up | 05:41 |
hdevalence | hydrogen: otoh, there is something to be said for easy to use languages | 05:41 |
ysth1 | there's an age effect; the python code is newer, by and large, hence buggier | 05:42 |
hdevalence | I think it's important to not be too unfriendly to people who are learning | 05:42 |
hdevalence | the language that is | 05:42 |
CarlFK | hydrogen: ubuntu stuff is mostly writtten in python. the C stuff is from other sources, and mostly debugged | 05:42 |
hydrogen | exactly | 05:43 |
hydrogen | buggy code is buggy | 05:43 |
hydrogen | python encourages buggy code by being so loose | 05:43 |
syke | unless its unit tested ;) | 05:43 |
hdevalence | I've found using c++ w/ qt is very nice | 05:43 |
hdevalence | compiler errors are annoying, but you learn from them, I've found | 05:45 |
ysth1 | python encourages buggy code by being worse-is-bettery, you mean? | 05:51 |
ysth1 | not sure how to interpret that "loose" | 05:51 |
hydrogen | it sleeps around | 05:51 |
hydrogen | :/ | 05:51 |
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GhotiPhud | hey | 06:15 |
GhotiPhud | I want to get involved | 06:15 |
GhotiPhud | don't really know where to start | 06:15 |
Flannel | !contribute | GhotiPhud | 06:26 |
ubotu | GhotiPhud: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate | 06:26 |
Flannel | Fish food, eh? | 06:26 |
GhotiPhud | haha, yes | 06:27 |
ryanhaigh | /j #ubuntu | 06:27 |
GhotiPhud | I'm interested in the "screens and graphics" program | 06:27 |
ryanhaigh | /join #ubuntu | 06:28 |
GhotiPhud | I can never seem to get it to work right | 06:28 |
GhotiPhud | so I'd like to take a look at it | 06:28 |
GhotiPhud | don't really know where to pick up the latest version | 06:28 |
GhotiPhud | git? | 06:28 |
GhotiPhud | svn? | 06:28 |
GhotiPhud | not sure how all that works | 06:29 |
Flannel | GhotiPhud: you might be better served in #ubuntu-devel, or even #ubuntu-motu | 06:30 |
GhotiPhud | okay, I'll look there, thanks Flannel | 06:30 |
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DanaG | Oh hey, something interesting: suspend on nvidia works better if you have a script call glxinfo before suspend. | 07:31 |
DanaG | It seems odd, but it seems to help for god-only-knows what reason. | 07:31 |
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Amaranth | Running glxinfo probably puts the card in some 'sane' state | 08:08 |
Amaranth | by going through the whole feature list and testing things | 08:08 |
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Gnine | "unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-deamon'. this could indicate a problem with Bonobo..." | 2.6.24-11-generic | gnome 2.21.92 | celeron 2.0 | 08:21 |
pwnguin | for all the crap people are posting on planet ubuntu about NIN's ghosts, im currently of the opinion that it's about worth what they're charging for it | 08:21 |
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Gnine | !away | 08:28 |
ubotu | You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users. (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.) The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines» | 08:28 |
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Nubae | is there a channel for kubuntu+1 (kde4)? | 09:29 |
jussi01 | Nubae: #kubuntu-kde4 or #ubuntu+1 | 09:30 |
jussi01 | here or there is good, but kde4 specific probably better in #kubuntu-kde4 | 09:30 |
[Hardy]TuTUXG | LP:#192310 | 09:57 |
[Hardy]TuTUXG | bug 192310 | 09:57 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 192310 in hyphen "package openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hyph_en_US.dic', which is also in package openoffice.org-hyphenation" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192310 | 09:57 |
hwilde | who owns ubotu ? wake him up | 10:13 |
NineTeen67Comet | Hi all .. I recently fired up Alpha 5 (server amd64) and have found two things that I didn't see in the bugs .. Most annoyingly is the lack of bash_completion for application names (directories <tab> fine but something like sudo aptit<tab> inst<tab> smartmon<tab> just beeps). | 10:52 |
NineTeen67Comet | second is the ubuntu-keychain keeps erroring out. I assume this is something that's in work, but I thought I would mention it. | 10:53 |
Nubae | NineTeen, tab completion for apps works fine for me | 10:56 |
NineTeen67Comet | Nubae: hum .. it's dead in the water for my gOS box too .. | 10:58 |
* NineTeen67Comet what'd I do? | 10:58 | |
Nubae | type of keyboard maybe? | 10:58 |
NineTeen67Comet | I dunno, there are two diff boards. Tab works for stuff like "sudo nano -w /etc/mun<tab>/mun<tab>" .. but aptitude just isn't hangin' with Mr. Cooper .. | 10:59 |
NineTeen67Comet | neither is apt-get | 11:00 |
NineTeen67Comet | It'll work if I don't toss sudo in the mix . | 11:00 |
buz | anyone else lost sound with the 2.6.24-11 upgrade? | 11:06 |
iceman | where is #ubuntu | 11:31 |
iceman | ? | 11:31 |
scizzo- | iceman: | 11:31 |
scizzo- | ? | 11:32 |
iceman | !channel | 11:32 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 11:32 |
scizzo- | iceman: /j #ubuntu | 11:32 |
iceman | !support | 11:32 |
ubotu | The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org | 11:32 |
iceman | k | 11:32 |
scizzo- | iceman: it is there | 11:32 |
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toter | hi guys... i'm having a problem with hardy heron... i installed hardy alpha 5 and i can't change the resolution on Monitor & Display under System Settings... | 12:46 |
toter | anybody also having this problem? | 12:46 |
Dr_Willis | You did install the drivers for your video card? | 12:48 |
Dr_Willis | I recall seeing that i could change those only after i install my nvidia drivers. | 12:48 |
toter | the message I get is: "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded" | 12:50 |
toter | i'm not sure if it's related to my video card driver | 12:51 |
Dr_Willis | Well if you have a nvidia card. Install the nvidia drivers for it. And try agin. I will try here.. and check Other then that.. I got no idea, | 12:51 |
toter | So... you have installed alpha 5 and you can change the resolution with no problems? | 12:52 |
Dr_Willis | system -> perferances -> screen res. works here. | 12:52 |
Dr_Willis | I am using a nvidia card. | 12:52 |
Dr_Willis | I am update/upgrading right now. :) | 12:52 |
Dr_Willis | well the applet works at least. its not changeing the res. | 12:53 |
Dr_Willis | of course I normally use the actual nvidia control panel tool. | 12:53 |
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foobar | ppl of #ubuntu has redirected me to other channel... | 12:55 |
foobar | i was asking HOW ubuntu does to include the acx100 firmwares directly on the iso | 12:55 |
foobar | since these firmwares are NOT allowed to be redistributed | 12:56 |
Dr_Willis | It may be they have an exception, or some agreement. I would think the ubuntu forums would have an area on this. | 12:57 |
foobar | it is not explained anywhere ? :/ | 12:57 |
toter | Dr_Willis: I can change the resolution using another program... Now i'm using 1024 x 768... but the module on KDE doesn't work. | 13:01 |
toter | The console output displays an error message... something wrong with displayconfig.py | 13:02 |
Dr_Willis | theres a lot of issues it seems lately with some of the python parts | 13:03 |
toter | but try this later... installing alpha 5 and then trying to change the resolution on System Settings / Monitor & Display... I also tried updating everything with apt-get dist-upgrade... Still doesn't work | 13:06 |
toter | but that's fine... the resolution can be changed using another program... | 13:07 |
Dr_Willis | sounds to me like its possibially related to the various python stuff i saw last week. | 13:08 |
Dr_Willis | but what do i know.. :) im trying to figure out why smbfuse isent working | 13:08 |
Dr_Willis | Hmm.. Everytime i mount somthing with the fuse tools. Gnome is auto poping up a file manager window for the new mountpoint. | 13:09 |
toter | You're right... it's related to python... i get lots of error messages in the console... this displayconfig.py file has some problems | 13:10 |
bazhang | a python 2.5 error here | 13:11 |
toter | yep | 13:11 |
bazhang | no complaints though really; much faster than gutsy by far | 13:12 |
Dr_Willis | anyone else tryed the fusesmb tool under hardy yet? its seems to been broke now for the last.. err.. month or more.. | 13:12 |
bazhang | will try it--what does it do? | 13:13 |
Dr_Willis | it lets you mount samba (or windows) shares on the fly. makes the whole network-neighborhood appear as a local directory | 13:13 |
Dr_Willis | I got a wiki page done on it. :) let me find the url | 13:13 |
Dr_Willis | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb | 13:14 |
bazhang | well I could get windows in a vm; Dr_Willis | 13:14 |
Dr_Willis | bazhang, heh :) it will show local machine shares also. | 13:14 |
Dr_Willis | but I just googled for that wiki page and NOW i found some bug reports on it.. i dident find any bug reports on fusesmb when i was at the bug tracker site just befor that.. | 13:15 |
Dr_Willis | odd.. | 13:15 |
toter | about the monitor & display problem: i found this | 13:15 |
toter | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/173768 | 13:15 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 173768 in kde-guidance "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:15 |
toter | Apparently this monitor & display problem is well known | 13:16 |
bazhang | Dr_Willis: okay; will do! will let you know in the next day ;] | 13:26 |
Dr_Willis | bazhang, i submited a but. found a similer bug mentioned by someone for the 7.10 release. | 13:26 |
Dr_Willis | a bug even :) | 13:26 |
Dr_Willis | i wonder if its gnome/kde related.. brb. I may as well trouble shoot this some more | 13:27 |
bazhang | haha okay will then go directly and confirm it then Dr_Willis ;] | 13:28 |
toter | Dr_Willis: What's the advantage by using this fusesmb? SMB is working fine on my alpha 5... Dolphin displays my shared folders and drives, no problem... | 13:28 |
Dr_Willis | Heck i couldbe doing somthing STUPID.. but i did write that fusesmb wiki. | 13:28 |
Dr_Willis | toter, it shows the whole network of shares in a single local directory (is how the programs see it) | 13:28 |
Dr_Willis | if a new machine connects.. its shares show up. :) | 13:29 |
Dr_Willis | when one leaves.. the shares vanish. | 13:29 |
toter | oh... ok... i'm still learning :) | 13:29 |
Dr_Willis | all the shares appear as a local directory, so nothing special needs to be done to let programs access the data files. Similer to how you 'mount' shares. but this is at a user level. thats what FUSE does - is let the users do what used to be root type tasks. :0 | 13:30 |
pavlos | hi there | 13:30 |
Dr_Willis | The whole FUSE system.. is.. sort of amazing. | 13:30 |
Dr_Willis | :) | 13:30 |
pavlos | how can I install ubuntu 8.04 via terminal | 13:31 |
pavlos | ? | 13:31 |
rsk | you can't | 13:31 |
rsk | it's not releases yet | 13:31 |
rsk | released | 13:31 |
Dr_Willis | not sure what you mean 'via terminal' | 13:31 |
pavlos | I'm booting from the live cd | 13:32 |
pavlos | ok | 13:32 |
Dr_Willis | The live cd - has a gui installer., isent there an alternative installer cd out yet? | 13:32 |
Dr_Willis | alternative installer cd - has the text based installer. | 13:32 |
pavlos | and I'm sellecting option 2 | 13:32 |
pavlos | that it says install ubuntu | 13:32 |
pavlos | and it boots in a terminal | 13:33 |
pavlos | If I try option 1 I have problems with my VGA | 13:34 |
pavlos | can anyone help me ? | 13:37 |
binaries-APP | does anyone know how to connect a hardy desktop to a hardy server ? | 13:38 |
binaries-APP | anyone ? someone? | 13:39 |
Pici | binaries-APP: You need to explain a bit further, its a bit of a vague question. | 13:40 |
bazhang | same lan? | 13:40 |
binaries-APP | i have a hardy desktop installed on my lappy. i would like to use it to controll an older machine, on which i have installed the hardy server | 13:41 |
binaries-APP | they are on the same network | 13:41 |
Pici | ssh? | 13:41 |
bazhang | you want to ssh into the server? | 13:41 |
binaries-APP | yes , ssh was what i have found a bit of info on | 13:41 |
binaries-APP | however when i attempt to connect to port 22 ( default?) the connection is refused ,even when provided with the reight login info | 13:42 |
Dr_Willis | you did INSTALL the sshd deamon/server? | 13:43 |
binaries-APP | the server is cleanly installed, with all of the server options :D | 13:43 |
binaries-APP | aka lamp , mail, ssh .... the list | 13:43 |
binaries-APP | i believe there is an alternative that is already built into the 8.04 distro | 13:44 |
Dr_Willis | You could check the logs.. /var/log/auth (i think) | 13:44 |
Dr_Willis | You sure ssh is installed ? :) try 'ssh localhost' perhaps as a test. | 13:45 |
binaries-APP | in the gui ( desktop ) there is an option to connect to a server, w. the option to scan the network for a server >negative | 13:45 |
bazhang | !info openssh-server hardy | 13:45 |
ubotu | openssh-server (source: openssh): secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.7p1-4ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 244 kB, installed size 644 kB | 13:45 |
Pici | binaries-APP: What application are you using to 'connect to server'? are you using ssh? | 13:46 |
binaries-APP | yes | 13:46 |
Dr_Willis | wow the auth.log file - has about 20+ lines of logging each time i ssh in. | 13:47 |
binaries-APP | theres a gui for it too no ? | 13:47 |
Pici | A gui? No? ssh is command line. | 13:47 |
Dr_Willis | gui for ssh? I just upen up a terminal and do 'ssh whatever' | 13:47 |
binaries-APP | in the desktop its under places>connect to server | 13:47 |
Dr_Willis | thats a sftp type thing. i belive | 13:47 |
Dr_Willis | and it was Not working for me - i think theres a bug with it | 13:48 |
Pici | There have been some gvfs bugs abound recently. | 13:49 |
binaries-APP | ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused | 13:49 |
Pici | binaries-APP: Why are you connecting to localhost? | 13:49 |
Pici | localhost is whatever computer you are running the command on. | 13:49 |
Dr_Willis | basic trouble shooting wins again. :) | 13:50 |
binaries-APP | talk about a noob :D | 13:50 |
Dr_Willis | ps ax | grep sshd | 13:50 |
Dr_Willis | see if sshd is really running? | 13:50 |
Dr_Willis | if he cant connect to localhost.. then.. well nothing else is going to connect either. | 13:51 |
binaries-APP | ssh: connect to host 127.0.1.1 port 22: Connection refused | 13:51 |
Pici | binaries-APP: 127.0.1.1 is an alias for localhost. | 13:51 |
Dr_Willis | if its not even running, you might want to try 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server ' just in case it some how dident get installed properly. | 13:52 |
binaries-APP | ps ax > sshd is running | 13:52 |
Pici | Dr_Willis: I'm assuming that he doesnt have the ssh server running on the 'client' computer | 13:52 |
bmk789 | has anyone used hamachi on hardy? | 13:52 |
Dr_Willis | Pici, :) good point. :) i always got ssh on all the machines. | 13:52 |
Pici | Dr_Willis: Me too ;) | 13:52 |
binaries-APP | i saw something like that somewhere but it only reminded me of japan | 13:52 |
Dr_Willis | of course he could walk over to the ssh server and try that command. :) | 13:53 |
binaries-APP | i have both machines infront of me | 13:54 |
binaries-APP | DR_willis: what was that command? | 13:54 |
Dr_Willis | the ssh localhost command you just used? | 13:55 |
Dr_Willis | go to the machines thats the ssh server, and try 'ssh localhost' see if you can connect locally. | 13:56 |
Dr_Willis | if you can connect locally, but not remotely, then either theres some firewall rules, or other stuff blocking the connection | 13:56 |
Pici | Or you aren't connecting to the correct address | 13:57 |
binaries-APP | brb the phones ringing | 13:58 |
Dr_Willis | Yea. Be sure to try with the IP OF THE SERVER. :) | 13:58 |
Dr_Willis | not just its name. | 13:58 |
Dr_Willis | bye all.. good luck | 13:59 |
binaries-APP | hey i found some wiki on ssh, gonna digg that first, thanks for the points | 14:12 |
binaries-APP | peace | 14:12 |
nDuff | In /etc/network/interfaces, I have a bridge defined with "bridge_ports eth0". This works fine -- the bridge comes up and adds eth0 -- but eth0 is also separately started and has its own dhclient run, although it isn't defined in the interfaces file at all (except as a member of br0). Where should I be looking at to understand what's going on? | 14:15 |
panosru | hi, i got wine 0.9.56 but sound does not work, do anyone have the same prob? | 14:19 |
hdevalence | where do I learn to how to resolve dependencies with apt? | 14:26 |
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lubos1 | hi | 15:32 |
lubos1 | should i upgrad now, or is it to unstable for my main system ^? | 15:32 |
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pwnguin | it's a testing version still; your ability to recover / reinstall after massive errors will probably dictate your choice | 15:34 |
pwnguin | i dont know of any | 15:34 |
pwnguin | (massive errors) | 15:34 |
pwnguin | but if you don't have a liveCD or anything handy already, it could be quite painful | 15:34 |
lubosz | hm, i upgraded to feisty in july, it was still alpha last release ^ | 15:35 |
lubosz | i wanted just to change the repos and do a dist-upgrade | 15:35 |
lubosz | my system has a long lifetime already, not going to change that :D | 15:36 |
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lubosz | ubuntu studio 7.04 => ubuntu 7.10 in july ^ | 15:36 |
pwnguin | you'll miss important stuff that way, since it seems the gui upgrader contains some extra special magic that isn't in any particular package | 15:36 |
pwnguin | personally, i keep around two installs on my laptop | 15:36 |
pwnguin | one stable and one unstable | 15:37 |
lubosz | do i miss that stuff also when i do the dist-upgrade with a stable version? | 15:38 |
lubosz | hm, so there are new packages which have to be added | 15:38 |
pwnguin | i believe so, yes | 15:38 |
pwnguin | well more like | 15:38 |
pwnguin | "replace the group adm with admin" etc | 15:39 |
lubosz | hmm | 15:39 |
lubosz | and a upgrade from cd would do such stuff | 15:39 |
pwnguin | well | 15:40 |
pwnguin | you don't need the CD | 15:40 |
pwnguin | you just need to use update-manager ;) | 15:40 |
pwnguin | the liveCD helps you in situations where your current install is hosed | 15:40 |
lubosz | when i replace the repos, will update manager do that? | 15:41 |
pwnguin | update manager replaces the repos for you, and comments out the ones that aren't official | 15:41 |
pwnguin | you can re enable them afterwards | 15:41 |
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lubosz | but if i want to upgrade via update manager, i have to wait for release? | 16:20 |
henkjan | update-manager -d | 16:26 |
henkjan | tha'll give you the --devel-release | 16:26 |
lubosz | thc | 16:27 |
lubosz | thx | 16:27 |
antiati | hello damn i have download 4 time kubuntu hardy and for 4 time i have get 4 bad cd | 16:28 |
pvandewyngaerde | did you check md5 sum ? | 16:29 |
mazzen | doesn anyone have also a lot of troubles with ati mobility radeon cards? i can only use the vesa drivers, as the "ati" leads to a white screen and the fglrx to a system freeze | 16:29 |
wastrel | hi hi | 16:31 |
antiati | pvandewyngaerde: i have get always error....with 4 burner | 16:31 |
antiati | sorry 3 burner | 16:31 |
antiati | maybe better cd writer | 16:31 |
antiati | pvandewyngaerde: i have made check cd rom after boot | 16:33 |
antiati | and after 35% it was always blocked | 16:33 |
pvandewyngaerde | but did you check the iso file you downloaded ? | 16:35 |
nekr0z | hello to all | 16:38 |
nekr0z | can anyone help with a sound problem? PulseAudio works, ALSA doesn't, says it's busy always | 16:39 |
nekr0z | and I can't even track what program is locking it | 16:41 |
Laser87 | sry for offtopic, just a short question: anybody here knows the local time in Texas? | 16:43 |
Milos_SD | I think that newest tracker update broke tracker applet, becouse I don't have it now. :S | 16:43 |
nekr0z | I just want to figure out whether the problem is between the chair and the keyboard, or I should file a bugreport | 16:44 |
Amaranth | @now Houston | 16:44 |
* Amaranth pokes ubotu | 16:44 | |
Amaranth | @now Chicago | 16:44 |
ubotu | Current time in America/Chicago: March 04 2008, 10:44:42 - Next meeting: Platform Team in 14 hours 15 minutes | 16:44 |
Amaranth | that should basically be the same time | 16:44 |
Amaranth | can't remember what part (if any) of texas overlaps other timezones | 16:45 |
Laser87 | should or sure?^^ | 16:45 |
Laser87 | anyway thx a lot | 16:45 |
Amaranth | well i know that covers most of texas anyway | 16:46 |
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BUGabundo | hi there | 17:18 |
BUGabundo | (2008-03-04 17:18:08) BUGabundo: | 17:18 |
BUGabundo | where can I find an HowTo for likewise and how to setup with an AD? | 17:18 |
BUGabundo | anyone? | 17:21 |
syke | bug: I believe you can find thsoe with a web search | 17:22 |
BUGabundo | I coulndt! | 17:22 |
syke | I came across some in the message boards while doing asearch for somethign else | 17:22 |
BUGabundo | that's why I came here | 17:22 |
BUGabundo | I could get in their mailinglist | 17:22 |
BUGabundo | but its too much work just for a simple howto | 17:22 |
syke | sorry, dunno | 17:23 |
BUGabundo | thanks anyway syke | 17:23 |
BUGabundo | they should have some info on their site, or a wiki.... but I haven't found it yet | 17:23 |
BUGabundo | just links for enterprise and comiunity mailinglist | 17:24 |
danielm | hi all | 17:30 |
danielm | any idea how to recover the 'default' value of screen brightness? | 17:31 |
Ng | I don't suppose anyone here is using hardy with the installer's encrypted lvm setup? | 17:31 |
hwilde_ | any way to monitor the data throughput on /dev/ttyUSB0 ? | 17:36 |
HEP85 | hi @ everybody | 18:06 |
HEP85 | today I did a apt-get upgrade and it broke mythtv. Where can I file a bug report? | 18:07 |
TuxCrafter | hi guys, what is the packagename for the program that gives you the packagename on the terminal when you try to run a program that is not installed | 18:28 |
DrHalan | hey, if i go on network it doesnt show anything not even my own machine | 18:30 |
TuxCrafter | command-not-found | 18:31 |
TuxCrafter | found it | 18:31 |
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bmk789 | should i be filing bug reports for hardy? | 19:32 |
Pici | bmk789: Yes.... | 19:32 |
bmk789 | because when i tried amarok they plastered all over "do NOT file bug reports!" | 19:33 |
zniavre | hello (im french sorry for my english) each reboot the network is down i need to restart it manually by the network tool | 19:34 |
zniavre | is it a known bug? | 19:34 |
Pici | bmk789: I can't inform you about amarok, but we do want other bugs to be logged, please search though before logging in order to decrease duplicates | 19:35 |
bmk789 | ok | 19:36 |
bmk789 | would someone have deleted the bug i submitted earlier? it seems to be gone | 19:37 |
Pici | bmk789: It may have been marked as a duplicate, and would be hidden from the default search paramteters | 19:37 |
bmk789 | the was only one other bug about the program and it wasnt a duplicate | 19:38 |
Pici | bmk789: Do you remember the bug ID? | 19:39 |
bmk789 | the number? | 19:39 |
Pici | Yes. | 19:39 |
bmk789 | 198373 | 19:40 |
Pici | bug 198373 | 19:40 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 198373 in ubuntu "Hamachi affects network connection in Hardy" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198373 | 19:40 |
bmk789 | hm | 19:40 |
bmk789 | *sigh* | 19:42 |
bmk789 | can anyone verify bug 198486 | 19:59 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 198486 in firefox "Firefox 3 Huge Toolbars" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198486 | 19:59 |
nerdygirl_ellie | Good afternoon. | 20:22 |
nerdygirl_ellie | At some point in the last few updates, pressing the power button on my laptop has ceased to bring up the log out/turn off/reboot/lock screen window. Can anyone here confirm if it still works for them before I open a ticket? | 20:23 |
nerdygirl_ellie | If it's relevant, my system HH Alpha upgraded from GG from FF from EE. | 20:24 |
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Assid | i did a booboo | 20:32 |
kingrayray | firefox 3 is crashing a lot today lol | 20:40 |
Assid | i did a big mistake | 20:41 |
kingrayray | what did you do? | 20:42 |
Assid | i moved my desktop back to windows.. | 20:42 |
Assid | and the fonts suck | 20:42 |
kingrayray | that certainly is a big mistake | 20:42 |
Assid | soo freaking "HARD" | 20:42 |
Assid | so now i got a headache | 20:42 |
Assid | and i cant move back to linux | 20:42 |
Assid | so im kinda in a mess | 20:42 |
Assid | oh yeah.. against all odds, linux supports my hardware better than windows does | 20:43 |
Assid | so the next person who speaks to me and tells me linux hardware issues.. im gonna kick their ass | 20:43 |
Assid | i needed 8mb "drivers" for my printer | 20:44 |
Hydrogen | yes, because obviously your experiences are the only experiences to ever matter | 20:44 |
Assid | well.. not saying there are issues. but seriously.. when ym webcam decides to work better.. my printer works PnP.. you go get annoyed | 20:45 |
Assid | webcam refresh rates were so messed up.. almost a second + of lag. and thats local | 20:46 |
Assid | anwyasy.. forget all that | 20:47 |
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lucasvo | I heard that parallels workstation is available for ubuntu. will it also be available on hardy heron as soon as it's released? does anyone know where I can find more information? | 21:50 |
nerdygirl_ellie | At some point in the last few updates, pressing the power button on my laptop has ceased to bring up the log out/turn off/reboot/lock screen window. Can anyone here confirm if it still works for them before I open a ticket? | 21:54 |
nerdygirl_ellie | lucasvo: I have heard the rumor as well, but can't find any real info on it. | 21:54 |
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nerdygirl_ellie | Hi! My power button doesn't pull up the "shut down" menu anymore. Can someone on HH try it and see if it pulls up the menu for them? I don't know if I broke something or I need to open a ticket. | 21:58 |
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Adys | nerdygirl_ellie: Works fine here | 22:09 |
Adys | check System -> Preferences -> Power Management | 22:10 |
nerdygirl_ellie | Adys: Thanks. I must have broken something.... When was your last apt-get update/grade cycle? | 22:10 |
Adys | doublecheck in the general tab, When the power button is pressed | 22:10 |
Adys | about 15 mins ago | 22:10 |
nerdygirl_ellie | Curious. My power button action is still set to "ask me". | 22:11 |
Adys | try set it to something else and back again | 22:11 |
nerdygirl_ellie | Nope. Oh well. | 22:11 |
Adys | Cant be much more help. Reboot and if you manage to reproduce it, file a bug | 22:12 |
nerdygirl_ellie | Thanks Adys | 22:17 |
gil | Hi hi - anybody know if we're going to see the new style applications menu any time soon? | 22:25 |
DigitalNinja | I'm trying to get a Bluetooth headset working in Hardy. My Belken USB Bluetooth adapter was working but now it doesn't. When I plug it in and run lsusb I get nothing. When I remove it lsusb works. What's going on here? | 22:30 |
Lennybuntu | hi guys.. weird thing just happened. I'm running hardy alpha on my laptop.. I just downloaded the updates, rebooted, and now my screen is set to its dimmest setting. When i use the function keys to adjust the brightness, it gets brighter as I turn it down, like the settings are reversed. any thoughts? | 22:38 |
Amaranth | Whoa, you have an LCD that emits darkons | 22:39 |
Amaranth | Sorry, had to say it :) | 22:39 |
Lennybuntu | heh :) | 22:39 |
Lennybuntu | also, the screen keeps automatically jumping back to full brightness (or should I say dimness) after about 1 minute | 22:40 |
Amaranth | yeah, gnome-power-manager is funny like that | 22:43 |
Amaranth | it's probably the "Dim on idle" setting doing that last bit | 22:43 |
crimsun_ | Lennybuntu: known, fixed in hal. | 22:45 |
crimsun_ | (not available in hardy yet) | 22:45 |
Lennybuntu | awesome, thanks. | 22:45 |
crimsun_ | hmph, this is silly. I can't tell if linux, xserver-xorg-video-intel, mesa, compiz, compiz-fusion-plugins-{main,extra} is to blame for these glitches with compiz. | 22:52 |
ethana2 | it's very unlikely to be the kernel | 22:52 |
ethana2 | and mesa can't even run compiz | 22:52 |
ethana2 | if it is the plugins, disable them one by one and see if anything changes | 22:53 |
crimsun_ | ethana2: I can't rule out the recent i915+drm updates in linux. | 22:53 |
ethana2 | oh | 22:53 |
ethana2 | I see | 22:53 |
ethana2 | turn on dtrace | 22:53 |
ethana2 | oh wait | 22:53 |
ethana2 | yeah......... do we even have dtrace yet? | 22:54 |
crimsun_ | systemtap won't really help here; I'd need a serial console and kdump. | 22:54 |
ethana2 | well good luck.. | 22:54 |
crimsun_ | meh, it's simple to work around. Disable compiz. | 22:55 |
ethana2 | does metacity have compositing merged yet? | 22:55 |
ethana2 | i mainly just use compiz to kill all visual tearing and enable 2d translucency | 22:55 |
Amaranth | ethana2: mesa can run compiz | 22:55 |
ethana2 | it can?? | 22:55 |
Amaranth | ethana2: and yes, metacity has a compositor | 22:56 |
Amaranth | a simple xrender-based one | 22:56 |
ethana2 | what, are you on an octal core CPU? | 22:56 |
crimsun_ | metacity (1:2.21.5-0ubuntu1) hardy. | 22:56 |
ethana2 | does it perform well? | 22:56 |
crimsun_ | "- This version support composite, its off by default" | 22:56 |
Amaranth | ethana2: i didn't say it could run it well | 22:56 |
ethana2 | oh, ok | 22:56 |
Amaranth | ethana2: if you have decent renderaccel | 22:56 |
Amaranth | So no if you have an r300 or newer, I guess | 22:56 |
ethana2 | it'll be nice to unify all that with gallium... | 22:56 |
Amaranth | Yes if you have nvidia or intel | 22:56 |
ethana2 | make life so much simpler | 22:57 |
Amaranth | and actually last time i checked mesa's software implementation of texture_from_pixmap was actually broken | 22:57 |
Amaranth | so you get white windows or some such thing | 22:57 |
Amaranth | but it does start | 22:57 |
Amaranth | thus the driver whitelist ;) | 22:58 |
gil | Is anybody here using the binary nonfree Nvidia driver that can check something for me before I report it as a bug? | 23:05 |
LjL | guerby: hi | 23:10 |
slipttees | hey | 23:11 |
slipttees | rene@ubuntu:~$ sudo su | 23:11 |
slipttees | sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu | 23:11 |
slipttees | rene@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update | 23:11 |
slipttees | sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu | 23:11 |
slipttees | ?? | 23:11 |
slipttees | hello | 23:16 |
slipttees | someone can help :S | 23:16 |
slipttees | i can't using gnome-terminal :-( | 23:16 |
slipttees | hello | 23:24 |
Laser87 | slipttees: install xterm^^ | 23:25 |
scizzo- | slipttees: what do you mean with not being able to use the terminal? | 23:26 |
slipttees | rene@ubuntu:~$ sudo gedit /etc/hosts | 23:26 |
slipttees | sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu | 23:26 |
slipttees | :-( | 23:27 |
scizzo- | slipttees: sounds like a completely new user... | 23:27 |
slipttees | ok | 23:27 |
Pici | slipttees: I've already explained to you what you need to do in #ubuntu | 23:27 |
scizzo- | slipttees: or you are using the live CD? | 23:27 |
slipttees | scizzo-: i'm using hardy | 23:27 |
slipttees | :-) | 23:27 |
Pici | slipttees: Why? | 23:27 |
slipttees | Pici: ok ok | 23:27 |
Pici | !hardy | slipttees | 23:28 |
slipttees | i can't waiting :d | 23:28 |
ubotu | slipttees: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu | 23:28 |
slipttees | Pici: i can't waiting for due april 208 :D | 23:28 |
slipttees | ops | 23:29 |
slipttees | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch | 23:29 |
slipttees | :-( | 23:29 |
scizzo- | slipttees: then you should also no that there is no garantee for it to work properly right? | 23:29 |
Pici | Hardy is NOT meant for new users. | 23:29 |
slipttees | i'm not new user ;-) | 23:30 |
slipttees | 4.10 has using :D | 23:30 |
scizzo- | anyone heard anything about firefox3 beta 4 yet? | 23:31 |
Arwen | has anyone else noticed that the "Monitor/Display" control panel in KDE doesn't work anymore? | 23:32 |
ethana2 | scizzo-: yes | 23:34 |
ethana2 | they're doing a quality test friday from 7 to 5.. don't know what time zone | 23:34 |
ethana2 | it should be out saturday or sunday | 23:34 |
scizzo- | nice | 23:35 |
ethana2 | i eagerly await it | 23:35 |
ethana2 | the first thing I'm going to do with it is take it to acid3 | 23:35 |
scizzo- | well lets hope it gets a good review | 23:37 |
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