[00:00] <ubotu> New bug: #198193 in ubuntu "super/win key should be mapped to meta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198193
[00:02] <ubotu> New bug: #198192 in evince (main) "evince window positioning with compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198192
[00:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198195 in apport (main) "Cannot submit Bug Report: "Firefox is already running...."" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198195
[00:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198196 in 3ddesktop "cant stretch icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198196
[00:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198197 in hotkey-setup (main) "[hardy] IBM Thinkpad (T23): no OSD indication for volume control, display inhibit or thinklight" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198197
[00:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198198 in firefox-3.0 (main) "can't move bookmark folders in bookmark organizer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198198
[00:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198199 in epiphany-browser (main) "Simply no response, no action" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198199
[00:11] <ubotu> New bug: #198200 in glipper (universe) "glipper crashed with IOError in save()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198200
[00:16] <ubotu> New bug: #198201 in ubuntu "dhcdbd.conf refers to redhat" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198201
[00:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198202 in wesnoth (universe) "Please sync wesnoth 1:1.4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198202
[00:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198204 in firestarter (universe) "Firestarter crashes after some time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198204
[00:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198205 in gnome-panel (main) "No (apparent) way to assign keyboard shortcuts to newly created workspaces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198205
[00:31] <ubotu> New bug: #194188 in rtorrent (universe) "Broken symbolic link /usr/share/doc/rtorrent/changelog.gz" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194188
[00:35] <ubotu> New bug: #198207 in hal (main) "bmpx music player refuses to run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198207
[00:35] <ubotu> New bug: #198208 in hal-info (main) "Support for brightness on Sony Vaio VGN-TZ16GN" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198208
[00:35] <ubotu> New bug: #198209 in audacity (universe) "Audacity becomes zombie on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198209
[00:40] <ubotu> New bug: #192965 in screenlets (universe) "FlowerScreenlet.py crashed with OSError in __create_tempfile() (dup-of: 160266)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192965
[00:41] <ubotu> New bug: #193302 in screenlets (universe) "DiskusageScreenlet.py crashed with OSError in __create_tempfile() (dup-of: 160266)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193302
[00:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198211 in ufw (main) "ufw: improper output on console when usplash disabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198211
[00:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198212 in firefox-3.0 (main) "can't drag bookmark folders from menu to toolbar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198212
[00:46] <ubotu> New bug: #193937 in screenlets (universe) "NotesScreenlet.py crashed with OSError in __create_tempfile() (dup-of: 160266)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193937
[00:46] <ubotu> New bug: #196697 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "baltremian (dup-of: 187442)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196697
[00:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198214 in acpi (main) "thinkpad sleep suspend fn buttons do not work without g-p-m" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198214
[00:47] <ubotu> New bug: #188427 in screenlets "LauncherScreenlet.py crashed with OSError in __create_tempfile() (dup-of: 160266)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188427
[00:57] <bdmurray> crimsun_: I'm not certain if it is related to the new hal but by gnome-power-manager isn't shutting down gracefully when battery is low
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #198217 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (main) "Show mouse not working with latest git snaphot " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198217
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #198218 in ubuntu "[hardy] After suspsend sound isnt working anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198218
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #198220 in ubuntu "[hardy] No logout possible in KDE4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198220
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #198221 in ubuntu "hda intel sound capture isn't working hardy alpha 5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198221
[01:14] <bdmurray> Why does aptitude changelog use changelogs.ubuntu.com?
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #198222 in libtorrent (universe) "Please sync rtorrent 0.7.9-1 and libtorrent 0.11.9-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198222
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198224 in ubuntu "samba wont conect when remote computer needs password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198224
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198225 in linux (main) "nvidia graphics don't work on hardy alpha 5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198225
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #197218 in exaile "Program Crash when browsing "information" about streaming radio (dup-of: 123409)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197218
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #198228 in ubuntu "Can't setup display as my will" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198228
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #198230 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "hardy displayconfig-gtk empy monitor list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198230
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #198232 in file (main) "file reports negative size for QCOW images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198232
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198235 in ubuntu "swing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198235
[02:22] <crimsun_> bdmurray: hmm, shouldn't be related, but I will attempt to reproduce that symptom (g-p-m not shutting down machine gracefully on low batt) locally
[02:37] <ubotu> New bug: #195884 in librsvg (main) "rsvg-convert crashed with SIGSEGV in _rsvg_acquire_xlink_href_resource()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195884
[02:37] <ubotu> New bug: #198238 in ubuntu "hardy heron alpha 5 live cd fails to boot on optiplex 320 without acpi=off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198238
[02:37] <ubotu> New bug: #198241 in ubuntu "[hardy] Gnome Shortcut for "Homedir" dont work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198241
[02:38] <ubotu> New bug: #198236 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (main) "dmesg: ALSA /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-rt/sound/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c:2160: MC'97 0 converters and GPIO not ready (0x1) " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198236
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #198243 in tomboy (main) "Please sponsor tomboy 0.9.8 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198243
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198244 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird version 2.0.0.12 (20080227) fail to create mail subfolder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198244
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198245 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "npviewer.bin crashed with syntax error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198245
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198246 in php5 (main) "php cli crashes on uncaught derived exception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198246
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #197641 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197641
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198248 in util-linux (main) "cfdisk creates invalid (!) partion tables on disk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198248
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #198252 in apport (main) "apport will not update after system upgrade Gutsy - Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198252
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198256 in ubuntu-keyring (main) "package ubuntu-keyring 2008.03.03 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198256
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #198257 in ubuntu "keyboard on feisty laptop stops functioning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198257
[05:43] <ubotu> New bug: #198265 in transmission (main) "Transmission should not default to ~/ to save files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198265
[05:43] <ubotu> New bug: #198266 in ubuntu "copernico" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198266
[06:19] <ubotu> New bug: #198267 in ubuntu "wireless rt61pci driver buggy in Hardy alpha (only 1Mbit/s) - used to be fine on Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198267
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198269 in kde-guidance (main) "Display manager thinks I have a proprietary driver installed when I don't and then crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198269
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #198272 in xscreensaver (main) "glplanet is very slow for no apparent reason" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198272
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #198273 in kdebase-kde4 (universe) "[konqueror-kde4-http][trivial] user agent not sent in headers when switching to webkit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198273
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #198276 in ubuntu "apt-get update 8.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198276
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #198279 in gedit (main) "Gedit Hangs Up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198279
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198281 in gnome-translate (universe) "(hardy) installing gnome-translate uninstalls nautilus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198281
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198280 in firefox (universe) "Firefox crashes as soon as "bookmarks" is clicked on" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198280
[08:23] <Gnine> "unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-deamon'. this could indicate a problem with Bonobo..." | 2.6.24-11-generic | gnome 2.21.92 | celeron 2.0
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #198282 in ubuntu "No mixer device created with snd_intel8x0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198282
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #183667 in gpodder (universe) "gpodder crashed with AttributeError in updateTreeView()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183667
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #192918 in gpodder (universe) "gpodder crashed with KeyError in custom_selection_button_clicked()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192918
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #196899 in gpodder (universe) "gpodder crashed with DBRunRecoveryError in DeadlockWrap()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196899
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198283 in linux-meta (main) "Wifi usb Key DWL-G122 not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198283
[08:37] <james_w> Gnine: might be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/197153
[08:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197153 in gnome-desktop "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Confirmed]
[08:40] <Gnine> yes, i believe 197153 is what i found as well
[08:40] <james_w> we think there are actually two or more bug reports there, but they are all to do with xrandr support it seems.
[08:40] <james_w> Gnine: ~/.xsession-errors is a useful file for that message.
[08:41] <Gnine> interesting
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198285 in nautilus (main) "cannot move files when the  destination is not local" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198285
[09:00] <ra2> helo
[09:01] <ra2> help me please with my ubuntu desktop. I cannot make/create a folder or even move a folder with mouse in my ubuntu desktop
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198288 in virtualbox-ose (universe) "Virutalboks kernel remove wifi from system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198288
[09:02] <ubotu> New bug: #198287 in firefox-3.0 (main) "multiple tabs don't look like in GTK apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198287
[09:03] <Gnine> setting xrandr to false was effective. ty james_w
[09:03] <james_w> Gnine: no problem
[09:04] <james_w> ra2: you probably want to file a bug on ubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <james_w> sorry, gnome-desktop
[09:06] <seb128> could people stop doing workarounds and try patched packages rather?
[09:07] <seb128> bryce asked for testing and nobody replied
[09:07] <seb128> we are not going to fix bugs this way
[09:08] <ra2> james..do you think..I should create some script or anything else to restore my ubuntu desktop to be accessable easly
[09:08] <Gnine> agreed. i just checked the report and first thing was a workaround. which is somewhat silly.
[09:08] <ra2> I cannot move or drag my exist folder in my ubuntu dekstop...
[09:09] <ra2> it always..says...error copying the folder...you dont have permission to do it
[09:12] <ra2> any body can help me to get my ubuntu desktop work normal like before I install it, because I cannot create any folder or even drag it with mouse..specially in ubuntu desktop environments...it always..says errot while trying to cpy..to /folder...blabla...and you dont have permission to do it
[09:18] <ra2> koniciwa Yasumoto san
[09:18] <ra2> help me kudasai
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #197893 in brasero (main) "brasero crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a() when copying cd to image file" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197893
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198045 in banshee (universe) "banshee.exe crashed with SIGSEGV when launching it to play mp3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198045
[09:22] <ubotu> New bug: #198292 in ubuntu "Hardy upgrade - motion halts upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198292
[09:22] <ubotu> New bug: #198293 in ubiquity (main) "hardy alpha5 install hangs on import step" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198293
[09:22] <ubotu> New bug: #198294 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV when playing an internet radio link (dup-of: 147112)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198294
[09:22] <ubotu> New bug: #198290 in acpi-support (main) "Battery icon on AC after boot with AC plugged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198290
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #198295 in hal (main) "FF exception request: update hal to git head" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198295
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #198296 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 131679)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198296
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #198298 in nxtvepg (universe) "nxtvepg is missing an application icon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198298
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198297 in scummvm (universe) "Please sync scummvm 0.11.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198297
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198302 in mediatomb (universe) "Please sync mediatomb 0.11.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198302
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198304 in linux (main) "[Regression] No sound on Latitude D830 with 2.6.24-11 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198304
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #198307 in ubuntu "SPARC netboot installation stops in the middle of the process" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198307
[10:32] <secretlondon> morning :)
[10:36] <thekorn> hey secretlondon, happy hug-day!
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198312 in hal (main) "no more wifi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198312
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #198313 in gnome-control-center (main) "Integrate "extra buttons" in mouse properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198313
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #198315 in openoffice.org-hyphenation (main) "en-us version 2.3.1-1ubuntu1 (Hardy) conflicts with other language packs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198315
[11:01] <secretlondon> 198315 is a dupe
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #198317 in gnome-menus (main) "edit menu / add new item should have option to add new launcher" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198317
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #198319 in ubuntu "Lenovo 3000 N200 DVD-rom missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198319
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198320 in wesnoth (universe) "Not so useful descriptions for campaign packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198320
[11:26] <Gnine> 191575
[11:26] <Gnine> !cake
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Gnine> bug 191575
[11:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 191575 in wine "wine segfaults on winecfg" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191575
[11:43] <ubotu> New bug: #198321 in ubuntu "wubi partman crashes on install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198321
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #198322 in ubuntu "GtkFileChooser save as defaults focus on treeview" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198322
[12:15] <Iulian> Hey
[12:17] <ubotu> New bug: #198325 in roundcube (universe) "0.1 stable released" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198325
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #198328 in ubuntu "When using Firefox, Compiz always starts in top-left corner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198328
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198327 in mythtv (multiverse) "Can't install mythtv-frontend: chown: cannot access `/var/log/mythtv': No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198327
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198331 in apt-proxy (universe) "apt-proxy crash " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198331
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #162291 in gnome-terminal (main) "A command launch shutdown" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162291
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198334 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "error de ejecyción" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198334
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198335 in hal (main) "[regression] Changes to power status are reflected slowly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198335
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #198336 in ubuntu "Wacom tablet unusable after moving USB cable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198336
[13:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198337 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird crashes after closing the app" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198337
[13:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198338 in dolphin (main) "[Broken Translation] Recent update of french language packs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198338
[13:22] <ubotu> New bug: #198340 in linux (main) "Linux 2.6.24-11 breaks Broadcom BCM4312 wireless" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198340
[13:23] <ubotu> New bug: #198343 in recordmydesktop (universe) "Upgrade to 0.3.7" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198343
[13:29] <ubotu> New bug: #198346 in evolution (main) "Dates are not consistently displayed according to locale." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198346
[13:29] <ubotu> New bug: #198348 in ubuntu "Wacom Graphire 4 - Unable to Change Buttons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198348
[13:29] <ubotu> New bug: #198349 in libsemanage (universe) "FFE NEW python-semanage-dbg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198349
[13:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198341 in jockey (main) "b43 driver not 'Enabled' but 'In Use'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198341
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #194111 in gnome-app-install (main) "update-app-install crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194111
[13:47] <ubotu> New bug: #198350 in eog (main) "eog crashed with signal 7 in g_closure_invoke() (dup-of: 183422)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198350
[13:47] <ubotu> New bug: #198353 in kicad (universe) "eeschema redraw errors under compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198353
[13:47] <ubotu> New bug: #198354 in ubuntu "[FFe] kopete-plugin-otr-kde4" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198354
[13:47] <ubotu> New bug: #198355 in network-manager (main) "ipw2200: no wireless networks after installation in network-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198355
[13:48] <ubotu> New bug: #198351 in ubuntu "fusesmb - Not working properly." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198351
[13:50] <ubotu> New bug: #198356 in ltsp (main) "make it easier to specify alternate DHCP ports" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198356
[13:56] <ubotu> New bug: #198357 in linux (main) "oops in Hardy Heron -server kernel, with md-lvm-xfs-nfs4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198357
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198360 in gnome-panel (main) "Google Earth shuts down intermittantly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198360
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198362 in ubuntu "[KDE4] Upgrade to 4.0.2. -> Panel is not displayed properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198362
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198363 in gnome-desktop (main) "Ubuntu-Studio Desktop - no bottom panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198363
[14:11] <ubotu> New bug: #198364 in ubuntu "Booting into busybox after installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198364
[14:12] <Bashtoni> Are the issues with the hardy installer and software RAID known?
[14:13] <CarlFK> what packagename should u.c web site problems be bugged?
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #198366 in totem (main) ".pot file isn't regenerated on build time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198366
[14:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198370 in compiz (main) "Windows garbaging when using Update / Synaptic Package Manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198370
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #194822 in apt (main) "apt-get install hangs when run through java ssh dumb terminal" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194822
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198369 in xmms (universe) "opening mp3 files in xmms on mounted ntfs partition gave an error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198369
[14:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198373 in ubuntu "Hamachi won't run correctly in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198373
[14:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198374 in xen-meta (universe) "ubuntu-xen-server missing dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198374
[14:48] <ubotu> New bug: #198375 in openoffice.org (main) "Overwrite window in czech has English "No" and "Yes"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198375
[14:51] <ubotu> New bug: #198376 in ltsp (main) "[patch] if DHCP is used, also write a new /etc/resolv.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198376
[14:51] <ubotu> New bug: #198377 in hibernate (universe) "After hibernation and login computer is not on network anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198377
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #198379 in installation-guide (main) "d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe home on small drive, root not big enough" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198379
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #198380 in qemu (main) "VM with 2048MB crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198380
[15:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198381 in gcalctool (main) "Calculator does not work properly with comma for thousands sperator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198381
[15:05] <bddebian> Boo
[15:10] <secretlondon> hi
[15:12] <techno_freak> hi
[15:14] <bddebian> Hi secretlondon, techno_freak
[15:16] <qense> happy Hug Day everyone!
[15:18] <qense> bug #194719 is still not fixed
[15:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194719 in hal "01_proc_sys_batteries.patch causes a regression making gnome-power-manager not detect the battery properly" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194719
[15:18] <qense> although there is a patch committed, there are still people who have the problem with the patch
[15:19] <seb128> what issue exactly?
[15:19] <seb128> there is lot of issues described on this bug
[15:20] <seb128> icon displayed when being on ac, not enough details in the tooltip, charge indication being incorrect
[15:20] <qense> about the bug in general or the reports that weren't fixed by the patch?
[15:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198383 in firebird2.0 (universe) "Wishlist: Turn on COBOL language in Firebird SQL Pre-processor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198383
[15:20] <seb128> what is your issue using the patched version?
[15:20] <qense> I'm not using a laptop ;)
[15:21] <qense> I was the initation triager and still keep an eye on the bug
[15:21] <qense> bug #194201, a duplicate of the bug isn't fixed by the patch
[15:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194201 in hal "Battery Monitor not working (neither the battery applet) on Hardy (dup-of: 194719)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194201
[15:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194719 in hal "01_proc_sys_batteries.patch causes a regression making gnome-power-manager not detect the battery properly" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194719
[15:24] <seb128> qense: a new version will likely be uploaded soon, ask them again to try with it
[15:24] <qense> ok, I'll tell them that
[15:25] <seb128> qense: https://edge.launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive has it if they want to give it a try
[15:26] <qense> this is the version that is going to be uploaded?
[15:27] <seb128> yes
[15:27] <qense> nice
[15:27] <seb128> it might get some small changes before upload
[15:30] <qense> I've been triaging bugs for quite a while, and I'd like to join Ubuntu Bug Control. But I haven't got a good list of five bugs. I've certainly triaged more, but some are quite old and I don't know what kind of help with the bug is good enough.
[15:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198385 in nautilus (main) "Emptying trash shows a "Preparing" dialog with a non-moving progress bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198385
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #198386 in gnome-commander (universe) "Please sponsor gnome-commander 1.2.5 into hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198386
[15:32] <qense> I know there are better things that you could think of to do, but does someone from the Bug Control administrators want to check the bug at my profile, or tell me the requirements of the selected bug reports? MY launchpad username is qense
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198388 in xubuntu-default-settings (universe) "package xubuntu-default-settings None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xubuntu-default-settings.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/panels.xml', which is also in package xfce4-panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198388
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198389 in evolution (main) "composer does not load all the format options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198389
[15:39] <qense> (btw, my membership seems to be waiting for approval, what should I do? It has been that way for a long time already, no one replied yet. Or should I send an email by myself?)
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198390 in hipo (universe) "New upstream version: 0.6.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198390
[15:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198387 in file-roller (main) "[hardy] file-roller crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 184267)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198387
[15:59] <qense> Can someone tell me which release uses the 2.6.11 kernel?
[16:00] <qense> Is that release still supported?
[16:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198391 in setools (universe) "FFE upgrade setools from 2.4 to 3.3.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198391
[16:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198392 in evolution (main) "appointment disappears on move to calendar operation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198392
[16:03] <secretlondo> qense dapper uses 2.6.15, and earlier than that are not supported
[16:04] <qense> ok
[16:04] <qense> I've already asked the reporter to upgrade and try again
[16:05] <secretlondo> 2.6.11 must be really earlier - hoardy
[16:05] <qense> he upgraded from 2.6.8 to 2.6.11 and the wifi card stopped working
[16:05] <secretlondo> hoary?
[16:05] <qense> could be
[16:05] <qense> maybe the first releease of Ubuntu?
[16:05] <secretlondo> warty was the first, warty may have been 2.6.8
[16:06] <qense> do the archives for warty still exist at all?
[16:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198393 in xrandr "xrandr fails to output to VGA unless connected at boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198393
[16:06] <secretlondo> yes to comply with the gpl for source availability
[16:07] <qense> By the way, I'm still on the proposed members list of Ubuntu Bug Control for quite a while(months?). But I forgot that completely and haven't received a confirmation email.
[16:07] <secretlondo> try and catch someone like bdmurray
[16:08] <bdmurray> qense: did you send the "application" to me?
[16:08] <qense> oops, no
[16:09] <qense> I can do that now
[16:09] <bdmurray> Okay, I'll look at it this week then.
[16:11] <qense> Isn't Bug #191672 an error in GNOME?
[16:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 191672 in hal "HAL don't work if I don't plug in the device at boot time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191672
[16:11] <qense> The MP3 player is detected, but not mounted
[16:13] <qense> bdmurray: what actions are enough to use the bug in the list of five? Do you require a comple triage or are marking duplicates, forwarding upstream or confirming it(on of this at a time) enough?
[16:14] <bdmurray> qense: that sounds like enough, I'm also really interested to know what priority you would give the bug if it doesn't have one.
[16:14] <qense> ok, thx
[16:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198399 in kdebase-workspace (universe) "panel background in kde4 4.0.2 partly missing " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198399
[16:25] <ubotu> New bug: #197747 in aircrack-ng (universe) "aircrack-ng crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_join()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197747
[16:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198402 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Download manager leaves the .part files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198402
[16:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198403 in ubuntu "file permissions not working for mounted media" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198403
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #132606 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "ccsm crashed with AttributeError in Update()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132606
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #178322 in amarok (main) "amarokcollectionscanner crashed with SIGSEGV in QMutex::lock()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178322
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #188601 in istanbul (universe) "istanbul crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188601
[16:35] <qense> the application email has been sent
[16:36] <ubotu> New bug: #188160 in moodbar (universe) "moodbar crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188160
[16:36] <ubotu> New bug: #191896 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191896
[16:36] <ubotu> New bug: #194976 in sensors-applet (universe) "sensors-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194976
[16:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198406 in gimmie (universe) "gimmie_applet crashed with SIGSEGV in gnome_vfs_uri_ref()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198406
[16:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198407 in ubuntu "compiz still broke in today's Hardy update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198407
[16:40] <bdmurray> qense: I haven't received it yet
[16:41] <qense> I've sent it to your ubuntu.com address. But my email host is always slow
[16:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194732 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Screen power saving mode will not resume after using VNC prorgram" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194732
[16:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198410 in firefox (universe) "firefox crash when playing poker on line" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198410
[16:41] <bdmurray> qense: ah, okay.  I'll be a bit more patient then.
[17:00] <ubotu> New bug: #198419 in gnome-btdownload (universe) "gnome-btdownload crashed with signal 5 in g_type_class_ref()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198419
[17:02] <bdmurray> qense: are you still editing the wiki page?
[17:04] <qense> I forgot the link
[17:04] <qense> to make my name linkable
[17:04] <qense> You want to edit it?
[17:04] <bdmurray>  something like BrianMurray...
[17:04] <bdmurray> qense: yes, I just hugged a bug
[17:05] <qense> which one? I can add it too
[17:05] <bdmurray> bug 193016
[17:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 193016 in ubuntu "n vidia n force 6600 LE driver is not installing" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193016
[17:05] <ubotu> New bug: #198413 in gnome-settings-daemon (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_id_set_data_full() (dup-of: 188562)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198413
[17:05] <ubotu> New bug: #198420 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Keyboard layout settings not saved after reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198420
[17:06] <bdmurray> and 192831
[17:06] <qense> oops
[17:06] <qense> I already submitted the page after the first
[17:06] <bdmurray> qense: that's okay I have it scripted and it'll be easy for me to do
[17:06] <afflux> hi
[17:07] <qense> ok
[17:07] <afflux> uh, bug day. I seem to have missed that announcement
[17:07] <bdmurray> howdy afflux
[17:08] <afflux> by the way, do we now have weekly bug days on tuesday *and* thursday?
[17:09] <bdmurray> afflux: yes, for the time being.  Thursdays are more Gnome desktop focused with Tuesdays being generic
[17:10] <ubotu> New bug: #198421 in debconf (main) "DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE not set by dpkg-reconfigure causing dpkg-trigger to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198421
[17:11] <afflux> that sounds nice, especially since tuesdays are usually quite hard days for me
[17:16] <afflux> bdmurray: are you using the 5-a-day-applet?
[17:16] <ubotu> New bug: #198424 in ubuntu "Please sync gnuvd 1.0.5-1 from Debian unstable (contrib)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198424
[17:16] <afflux> bdmurray: does it provide any more functionality then opening the wiki or the stats page (or may I have missed some docs?)
[17:17] <bdmurray> afflux: I'm not using it, I think you can drag and drop bug urls which is the main benefit
[17:17] <afflux> ah, drag and drop. I tried double-clicking about 1000 times now ;)
[17:18] <bdmurray> yeah, I recently discovered that you drag FF tabs into gnome terminal which is pretty handy
[17:19] <afflux> hm, right. I use most apps maximized, so drag'n'drop is quite new to me
[17:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198426 in dvdbackup (universe) "Merge dvdbackup 0.1.1-12 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198426
[17:21] <ubotu> New bug: #198427 in ubuntu "Semicolon in WEP network password " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198427
[17:21] <secretlondon> I have to keep a blank tab open to use it..
[17:21] <secretlondon> I also have apps maximised, and use windows not tabs
[17:22] <secretlondon> but it's easy just to drag a tab onto it
[17:25] <james_w> hi secretlondon.
[17:25] <secretlondon> hi
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198428 in evolution (main) "[hardy] search/vfolders not shown at startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198428
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198429 in ubuntu "Unable to save bookmarks.xml" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198429
[17:38] <qense> bdmurray: the goals of the list of hal bugs with patches on the wiki page of today's hugday are a bit confusing
[17:38] <qense> first there is this: Determine if the attachment is really a patch and
[17:38] <qense> next two points are this: #
[17:38] <qense> If the patch is not a patch uncheck the patch flag for the attachment or
[17:38] <qense> #
[17:38] <qense> If the bug has the proper information set the bug's status to Triaged
[17:38] <bdmurray> qense: okay, that's the first time we've had patches on the list
[17:40] <bdmurray> qense: which bit in particular is confusing?
[17:40] <qense> first you have to check if the attachmnet is a patch
[17:40] <qense> nvm :P
[17:40] <qense> at the wiki i read something completely different
[17:40] <qense> I probably read too fast
[17:41] <qense> sorry
[17:41] <bdmurray> no problem, I have trouble reading sometimes too
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198434 in ubuntu "Boot problem with usb-internetcard inserted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198434
[17:44] <qense> Bug #115768 has strange debdiffs. They're almost completely the same, except for some things where 20thirdparty is replaced with 10vendor
[17:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115768 in hal "hald not parsing policies under /etc/hal/fdi/policy on kubuntu feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115768
[17:44] <qense> I think the patch hasn't been submitted
[17:49] <bdmurray> qense: I'm looking at that bug now
[17:52] <bdmurray> qense: I actually am not certain it is relevant anymore
[17:52] <qense> yeah, it's very old
[17:52] <bdmurray> ntfs3g support was added to Gutsy
[17:52] <qense> than it needs to be cleaned up
[17:53] <bdmurray> but their might be a larger issue if hal isn't reading fdi files in /etc/hal/fdi/policy
[17:54] <bdmurray> I was gonna wait until the resident hal expert showed up before looking at the bugs with patches
[17:54] <qense> ok
[17:54] <afflux> waaaah, 5-a-day stats aren't updating since a hour now!!1111
[17:54] <qense> it's at the end of the afternoon in Europe, but for some people the day just began :)
[17:54] <afflux> :)
[17:55] <qense> well, they've not come home from work
[17:56] <bdmurray> yeah afflux!
[17:56] <afflux> anyone good in spanish? good luck with bug 183754
[17:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 183754 in hal "NV5MGA (RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64 PRO) i can't use it." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183754
[17:57] <bdmurray> nice work forwarding 186282
[17:57] <afflux> bdmurray: I practised with compiz ;)
[17:57]  * thekorn waves, hello bug hunters!
[17:58] <afflux> heya thekorn
[17:58] <qense> hello
[17:59] <bdmurray> afflux: I usually tell non English bug reporters that their report is more likely to receive attention if they use English but don't invalidate the bug.
[18:00] <thekorn> bdmurray, I think I'm close to fix bug 185357 with the latest uploads to my both branches
[18:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185357 in bughelper "date_reported in python-launchpad-bugs not accessible via bughelper" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185357
[18:00] <thekorn> I will remove the debugging output later today and run some tests
[18:00] <afflux> bdmurray: sounds sane. Maybe we should add something for this case to wiki/Bugs/Responses
[18:01] <bdmurray> thekorn: yesterday I ran into an issue with using --dr "=2008-03-03"
[18:01] <bdmurray> afflux: yeah, that'd be great ;)
[18:01] <thekorn> bdmurray, should be fixed now, I reworked the "=" part today
[18:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198438 in vips7.10 "i used the live cd of ubuntu 7.10 for partition my existing system which i made dual booth with windows xp and ubuntu. but the partition happened with some error and i lost one of my windows drive with data. i need help to regain my crucial data. please help" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198438
[18:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198439 in openbabel (universe) "Merge openbabel 2.1.1-3 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198439
[18:02] <qense> a get a python error when using bughelper
[18:02] <bdmurray> thekorn: okay, great
[18:03] <qense> I'm posting it in pastebin
[18:03] <thekorn> qense, ok, thanks
[18:03] <qense> http://pastebin.com/m5508beb5
[18:03] <qense> I'm using the five a day applet
[18:03] <qense> I think that means I've got a newer applet
[18:03] <qense> but I've got to go now
[18:04] <qense> bye
[18:04] <thekorn> och, too fast for me...
[18:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198436 in evolution-data-server (main) "evolution-data-server-2.22 crashed with signal 5 (dup-of: 185588)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198436
[18:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198444 in ubuntu "Poor colour choice in 'Where are you?' dialog in installer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198444
[18:06] <afflux> hm, we need something like the 5-a-day applet for editmoin/bugdays
[18:07] <afflux> I used to use add-5-a-day and editmoin, now I use the applet, change to the terminal, need to remember *not* to run add-5-a-day again, run editmoin, and go on triaging ;)
[18:07] <bdmurray> I tried scripting editmoin more and ran into issues with wiki locks
[18:08] <thekorn> good idea
[18:08] <bdmurray> That's why 5-a-day actually uses bzr instead of the wiki
[18:09] <afflux> I was thinking of how to work around the locks. Maybe it would be good to queue the bug if someone else is editing and to try again every, say, 30 seconds
[18:09] <afflux> *about
[18:10] <bdmurray> if editmoin were to just quit if the wiki page were locked ...
[18:11] <ubotu> New bug: #198445 in gdm (main) "Polish: vertical align of password bullets" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198445
[18:11] <secretlondon> the really annoying this is when you edit conflict with yourself :(
[18:11] <secretlondon> I'm not a great fan of editmoin tbh
[18:17] <bdmurray> I've hugged enough bugs to open a hal one right?
[18:18]  * secretlondon nods
[18:21] <ubotu> New bug: #183984 in hal (main) "S3G via deltachrome drivers" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183984
[18:21] <greg-g> new rule: Before Submitting this Bug Report you Must Triage 5 Others.  See All Open Bugs HERE.  Thanks!
[18:21] <bdmurray> works for me.
[18:22] <greg-g> :)
[18:24] <bdmurray> hmm, apparently I don't have a genuine Ubuntu package
[18:25] <afflux> does bug 179516 (last comment) sounds like the reporter found that the problem was a defect CD-drive?
[18:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 179516 in hal "Hald freeze system with phenom amd 4 core" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179516
[18:25] <bdmurray> that's baloney my package is genuine!
[18:25] <afflux> (this may sound like a stupid question, but I'm not sure how to read frenglish ;))
[18:26]  * secretlondon is getting really good at reading error messages and log files in NotEnglish ;)
[18:26]  * afflux talks denglish
[18:26] <bdmurray> either way it sounds resolved to me.
[18:26] <bdmurray> well, fixed but invalid
[18:27] <afflux> okay, I'll tick it
[18:27]  * greg-g agrees
[18:27] <bdmurray> Anybody using Hardy?
[18:27] <secretlondon> afflux if it is an English speaker trying to speak French it is known as Franglais, I guess we have the other way round here
[18:27] <secretlondon> yes
[18:28] <secretlondon> anybody *not* using Hardy tbh
[18:28] <bdmurray> can you see if you hal-device-manager package is genuine? ;)
[18:28] <secretlondon> how?
[18:28] <bdmurray> I got it to crash via the following:
[18:28] <bdmurray> 1) System -> Prefernces - Harware Information
[18:29] <bdmurray> 2) Help -> About
[18:29] <qense> back
[18:29] <bdmurray> 3) Close
[18:29] <secretlondon> I don't have a system->preferences->hardware info entry
[18:29] <afflux> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'show'
[18:30] <bdmurray> oh, hey, that's not a hardy package
[18:30] <bdmurray> my bad. ;)
[18:30] <qense> thekorn: I also get some similar error as I reported before I left with bugnumbers
[18:31] <secretlondon> agreed - there is a kde one, but nothing called hal-device-manager in synaptic
[18:31] <bdmurray> it existed in gutsy
[18:31] <secretlondon> ah
[18:32] <afflux> I have hal-device-manager installed, seems like it's not been removed since gutsy.
[18:32] <secretlondon> so *not* genuine in hardy then ;)
[18:32] <secretlondon> apport was right!
[18:32] <qense> there should be a remove script for such applications
[18:32] <qense> they should be at least removed from the menu
[18:33] <secretlondon> they should have been with the dist-upgrade I presume
[18:34] <qense> maybe unattended-upgrades should conflict with them
[18:35] <bdmurray> keescook: ping
[18:35] <afflux> editmoin closed with: error: [Errno socket error] (8, 'EOF occurred in violation of protocol')
[18:35] <ubotu> New bug: #198450 in gnome-settings-daemon (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198450
[18:40] <ubotu> New bug: #198452 in evolution (main) "Repeatedly asking for password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198452
[18:40] <ubotu> New bug: #198453 in pulseaudio (main) "PulseAudio prevents programs relying on ALSA to work correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198453
[18:41] <keescook> bdmurray: pong!
[18:41] <bdmurray> keescook: I think I mostly figured it out
[18:42]  * keescook reads backlog
[18:42] <ogasawara> bdmurray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/152596
[18:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 152596 in hal "The option 'usefree' is not allowed" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[18:42] <keescook> I'm so confused.  bdmurray, what needed figuring?
[18:43] <ogasawara> bdmurray: it appears to be resolved although pitti asked for more files which kiko provided
[18:43] <bdmurray> keescook: where hal-device-manager went
[18:43] <bdmurray> found it in the changelog
[18:43] <bdmurray>     - hwdb icons and patches, python-launchpad-integration, .desktop file
[18:43] <bdmurray>       translation fixes: hal-device-manager is gone, will be replaced by
[18:43] <ogasawara> bdmurray: so just curious if we should actually close it or not
[18:43] <bdmurray>       indepentent gnome-device-manager project
[18:44] <keescook> yanked before it was replaced?  eww
[18:44] <secretlondon> so are we getting gnome-device-manager (post UI freeze)?
[18:45] <bdmurray> that's another good question too
[18:45] <afflux> ogasawara: are you triaging the acpi/hal tasks in bug 179138 too?
[18:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 179138 in linux "Special Key support incomplete with HP Compaq 6710b" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179138
[18:45] <bdmurray> and if not should hal-device-manager come back?
[18:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198454 in ubuntu "loading device hardware hangs on bootup in hardy alpha 5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198454
[18:46] <bdmurray> ogasawara: how did you determine it was resolved?
[18:46] <ogasawara> afflux: looks like I had at some point a while ago, but I haven't touched it today yet
[18:47] <ogasawara> bdmurray: kiko's comment "This is fixed in 0.5.9.1-6ubuntu5"
[18:48] <afflux> ogasawara: ah. I read "04 Mar" instead of "04 Jan" :)
[18:48] <ogasawara> heh
[18:49] <bdmurray> ogasawara: you took his word for it?  I checked in /usr/share/hal/fdi/* and still found a reference to it.
[18:49] <Tuv0k> trying to unsubscribe for duplicates, but I get "not alloed here" message
[18:50] <bdmurray> Tuv0k: I'm not sure what you mean but am guessing you need to unsubscribe from the "master" bug
[18:50] <Tuv0k> that totally not the problem
[18:50] <Tuv0k> but thanks
[18:51] <thekorn> qense, ah, ok, can you please also post the error you get when you run bugnumbers
[18:51] <ubotu> New bug: #198455 in apt-rpm (universe) "Please sync apt-rpm 0.5.15lorg3.2-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198455
[18:51] <ubotu> New bug: #198456 in python-central (main) "dapper->hardy crashes in pre-inst script" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198456
[18:51] <Tuv0k> same error regardless
[18:52] <qense> thekorn: here you are: http://pastebin.com/m5b2471ed
[18:52] <qense> I'm using the latest 64bit gutsy
[18:53] <bdmurray> ogasawara: I think the patch was actually dropped somehow
[18:53] <qense> with bughelper 0.2.13~gutsy1
[18:53] <thekorn> qense, the first 5 lines are just warnings, you can ignore them
[18:53] <ogasawara> bdmurray: ok thanks
[18:53] <bdmurray> ogasawara: looking at the changelog for hal 0.5.9.1-6ubuntu5 there is a reference to patch 76.  then getting the source for hal I don't see that patch
[18:53] <qense> thekorn: and the rest? they just appeared when I pressed ctrl+c
[18:54] <qense> should I be more patient?
[18:54] <thekorn> qense, when you ress ctrl+c python raises this error
[18:54] <thekorn> yes just be more paitient
[18:54] <qense> ok
[18:54] <qense> :)
[18:55] <qense> launchpad ha probably a large database to search
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #198458 in kdepim (main) "Installing a network bridge broke kioslaves" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198458
[18:56] <bdmurray> ogasawara: or maybe I have that backwards
[18:58] <bdmurray> ogasawara: it does look fixed but I'm wonder what pitti was looking for
[18:58] <ogasawara> bdmurray: I was gonna nudge him about it bug I think he's away right now
[18:59] <ogasawara> s/bug/but
[19:00] <bdmurray> I'm not certain but I think policies in /etc/hal/fdi override generic ones in /usr/share/hal/fdi/
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198460 in evolution (main) "Evolution - Search of strings in Sent mailbox does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198460
[19:01] <qense> thekorn: it works now, I just had to wait very long
[19:01] <bdmurray> but /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi is part of the hal package so there probably isn't anything special in there
[19:05] <bdmurray> isb gu 181462 italian?
[19:05] <bdmurray> bug 181462
[19:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 181462 in hal "scheda video trident" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181462
[19:07] <bdmurray> afflux: I'm looking at bug 180783
[19:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180783 in hal "HAL doesn't recognize BLU:SENS P19 as DAP" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180783
[19:08] <bdmurray> afflux: I think there is enough there.
[19:09] <bdmurray> And its a type of bug I wanted to talk about...
[19:09] <afflux> bdmurray: I thought it was lacking a simple description
[19:10] <afflux> I'm afk for dinner, will be back in half an hour or so
[19:10] <bdmurray> afflux: I'll admit they didn't describe it well but they were looking to have support for their music player added to hal
[19:10] <bdmurray> I'll comment on the bug now and you we could talk about it when you get back
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #127957 in mplayer (multiverse) "mplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in h264_parse_sps()" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127957
[19:20] <bdmurray> I've updated bug 180783 with an explanation if anyone is interested in adding device support for usb music players.
[19:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180783 in hal-info "HAL doesn't recognize BLU:SENS P19 as DAP" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180783
[19:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198463 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198463
[19:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198466 in rhythmbox (main) "upnp plugin is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198466
[19:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198468 in firefox (universe) "adobe reader can't install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198468
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #198464 in gnome-settings-daemon (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 198450)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198464
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #198469 in kde4libs (universe) "libgif4 use to compile kdelibs4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198469
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #198470 in kdebase-workspace (universe) "wallpaper broken in plasma in kde 4.0.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198470
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #198471 in evince (main) "evince crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198471
[19:39] <qense> if someone needs help with bug #183754, I think I've still got such a card
[19:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 183754 in hal "NV5MGA (RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64 PRO) i can't use it." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183754
[19:41]  * secretlondon has a tnt venta somewhere ;)
[19:41] <bdmurray> qense: without translating it the bug looks more like a support question than a bug report
[19:41] <qense> could be, but if anyone needs someone to test something, I can help
[19:41] <qense> I don't speak Spanish ;)
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198467 in compiz (main) "Compiz Crashes When Laptop Lid is Closed (dup-of: 131679)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198467
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198473 in gnome-terminal (main) "Error starting Terminal in Ubuntu-Studio Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198473
[19:50] <ubotu> New bug: #198480 in gnome-compiz-manager (universe) "gnome-compiz-preferences crashed with SIGSEGV in _rsvg_acquire_xlink_href_resource()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198480
[19:50] <ubotu> New bug: #198481 in bluez-gnome (main) "bluetooth-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198481
[19:51] <bdmurray> ogasawara: bug 180696 looks like a kernel bug and not a hal one but I could be wrong
[19:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180696 in hal "IOGEAR/Feiya Technology Corp. USB SD card reader is always detected as write protected." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180696
[19:53] <afflux> bdmurray: I'm back
[19:53] <afflux> bdmurray: looking at your comment now
[19:55] <bdmurray> ogasawara: the "Write Protect is on" bit is from the kernel right?
[19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #198483 in console-data (universe) "install-keymap doesn't make setting permanent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198483
[19:56] <afflux> bdmurray: okay, that looks reasonable. I must admit that I know close to nothing about hal / it's packaging, so the report was not clear for me
[19:57] <ubotu> New bug: #187137 in hal (main) "cannot complete laptop install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187137
[19:57] <ubotu> New bug: #198476 in hal (main) "Impossible to change LCD brightness on Thinkpad R61i" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198476
[19:57] <bdmurray> afflux: sure and the documentation about this is new too.  I thought it would just be good for everyone to learn about the fdi files and how to add device support.
[19:57] <ogasawara> bdmurray: yup, I'll take a look
[19:58] <bdmurray> ogasawara: cool, thanks.
[20:00] <afflux> huh, I don't get any notification emails from malone since yesterday , 17:00 UTC
[20:01] <secretlondon> I am
[20:08] <james_w> is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/198282 a kernel bug?
[20:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198282 in ubuntu "No mixer device created with snd_intel8x0" [Undecided,New]
[20:14] <secretlondon> or alsa
[20:14] <secretlondon> not hal afaik
[20:15] <afflux> "NetworkManager: <debug> [1194819827.154587] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added" lines in the syslog don't necessairily mean that the mentioned device is detected as a network device, do they?
[20:15] <secretlondon> james_w ask them to run the script on debugging sound problems which collects sound info?
[20:16] <james_w> secretlondon: ah, let me look for that.
[20:27] <ubotu> New bug: #198497 in brasero (main) "cannot rename video file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198497
[20:27] <ubotu> New bug: #198499 in totem (main) "Visual Bug in Full Screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198499
[20:27] <ubotu> New bug: #198500 in sound-juicer (main) "sound-juicer crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198500
[20:27] <ubotu> New bug: #198501 in cinepaint "Cinepaint languages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198501
[20:27] <ubotu> New bug: #198502 in emesene (universe) "Process name: python" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198502
[20:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198494 in ubuntu "can't use bluetooth headset" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198494
[20:33] <secretlondon> i'm not sure what to do about cinepaint packaging bugs. The packaging for cinepaint was so broken it got removed from debian (it isn't in hardy). There is someone redoing it all, but the package in gutsy isn't going to get fixed I reckon
[20:34] <afflux> wooohooo. Just received > 300 mails
[20:35] <james_w> secretlondon: you mean ones like #198501?
[20:35] <secretlondon> yes
[20:35] <secretlondon> that packaging is dead and buried
[20:35] <james_w> secretlondon: I think you said the right thing, but I'm not sure what to do, Won't Fix?
[20:36] <secretlondon> i have a ppa of the new alpha packaging but it's alpha
[20:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198505 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "gnome-volume-manager does not mount devices any more in hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198505
[20:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198508 in openoffice.org (main) "File overwrite problem on dapper->hardy upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198508
[20:36] <secretlondon> it's being done by a guy from debian deriv sidux
[20:36] <james_w> I don't think they will get SRU's for that, especially as a requirement for that is that the bug is fixed in the development version.
[20:36] <secretlondon> james_w we probably could fix it and backport it, but we won't
[20:37] <secretlondon> the development version started from scratch afaik
[20:37] <james_w> yeah, backports are an option, but I agree that it shouldn't change how we handle the bug.
[20:38] <secretlondon> it feels a bit weak to close all cinepaint packaging bugs though
[20:39] <secretlondon> but if they really aren't going to get fixed.,
[20:40] <james_w> well Won't Fix let's everyone know that the bugs wont be fixed.
[20:40] <secretlondon> yes
[20:40] <james_w> Although they probably will be fixed in Hardy+1
[20:40] <secretlondon> hopefully
[20:41] <james_w> So maybe just leave everything open and have a mass closing session when that lands.
[20:41] <thekorn> bdmurray, I updated bug 185357 with some test-cases, I think it's working fine so far
[20:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185357 in bughelper "date_reported in python-launchpad-bugs not accessible via bughelper" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185357
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194547 in network-manager "[Hardy] tg3 network driver doesn't come up via NetworkManger consistently" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194547
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194795 in ubuntu "Wireless switch on Compal CL56 (Zepto 4200, some acer models, ..) not recognized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194795
[20:43] <james_w> Heads up for everyone, there's probably a new round of gnome-settings-daemon bugs coming in. You can spot them for asking for ~/.xsession-errors and looking for it loading xrandr plugin, and then saying "parse error" on the next line.
[20:43] <james_w> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/193560
[20:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 193560 in gnome-settings-daemon "[Hardy] gnome-settings-daemon not logged in when started" [Undecided,New]
[20:44] <james_w> that's the place to collect them
[20:44] <james_w> It doesn't come up as an apport crash reporter, and isn't a SIGSEGV, so any you get like that are probably fixed in uploads over the last couple of days if it is an old version and they are to do with xrandr, or they are new bugs.
[20:45] <ubotu> New bug: #198513 in ubiquity (main) "crash on installation, Linux Mint 4.0" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198513
[20:45] <ubotu> New bug: #198514 in apport (main) "please enable  ProcEnviron in apport reports" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198514
[20:46] <secretlondon> james_w thanks
[20:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198511 in ubuntu "USB Network Adapter not recognized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198511
[20:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198512 in nautilus (main) "nautilus replaces spaces with underscores within ftp retrivals" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198512
[20:47] <james_w> secretlondon: no problem.
[20:48] <secretlondon> I think the bug de jour should probably be put in the channel topic. I felt that when i was dealing with a hundred dupes of the same python central bug.
[20:48] <thekorn> bdmurray, and if you have a minute, I would appreciate your opinion as a comment on bug 194082, so I can fix this tomorrow
[20:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194082 in bughelper "turn off text_bug API warnings for bughelper in hardy" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194082
[20:48] <secretlondon> it doesn't stop them submitting it but it tells people here what's going on
[20:48] <thekorn> good night
[20:49] <secretlondon> thekorn: night
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #198516 in gvfs (main) "Cannot mount my Sansa E260" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198516
[20:53] <james_w> secretlondon: that's not a bad idea.
[20:53] <james_w> It keeps the bug to make it a duplicate of to hand as well.
[20:53] <secretlondon> yes
[20:54] <secretlondon> reallocating dupes to a different bug is a hassle, as well as really spammy
[20:55] <james_w> yeah, is there a bug on Malone for that?
[20:56] <secretlondon> I dunno, there should be
[20:58] <james_w> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/78596
[20:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 78596 in malone "Automatically handle moving duplicates across when duplicating a bug with dupes" [High,Confirmed]
[20:58] <secretlondon> cool, thanks
[20:59]  * secretlondon resists the temptation to add a "me too" to that one
[21:00] <ubotu> New bug: #198489 in gnome-power-manager (main) "wireless loses signal when closing the lid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198489
[21:01] <bdmurray> There is a relatively painless way to move dups with python launchpad bugs.
[21:02] <james_w> bdmurray: is there a function for it, or do you enumerate duplicates first?
[21:03] <bdmurray> james_w: I'll have to look at my script
[21:04] <james_w> bdmurray: it's not important, so don't worry.
[21:04] <bdmurray> james_w: I think it'd be worthwhile to have an example of it with python-launchpad-bugs though
[21:06] <pitti> hi
[21:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198521 in casper (main) "Hardy regression: i810 video incorrect size; cursor paints blocks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198521
[21:06] <bdmurray> pitti: looking at bug 152596 do policies in '/etc/hal/fdi' override those in '/usr/share/hal' ?
[21:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 152596 in hal "The option 'usefree' is not allowed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152596
[21:06] <emgent> heya pitti
[21:07] <emgent> :)
[21:08] <james_w> bdmurray: yes, some (more?) examples in the package would be good.
[21:09] <pitti> bdmurray: right, it's supposed to at least
[21:09] <bdmurray> james_w: right, that's somewhere on my to do list
[21:09] <bdmurray> pitti: okay, I wanted to make sure I understood the concept.
[21:10] <bdmurray> that bug is fixed though - is there anything more you needed?
[21:11] <pitti> bdmurray: ^ that was for me?
[21:11] <Tuv0k> FF3 crashes when trying to save a photo
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #198491 in upstart (main) "Dell 531S BIOS 1.0.9 disables power-off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198491
[21:11] <bdmurray> pitti: right in regards to 152596
[21:11] <pitti> bdmurray: I don't quite know why it doesn't work for kiko, but at least in hardy gnome-monut doesn't use 'usefree' any more, so at least it's irrelevant now
[21:12] <pitti> 'usefree' was just a last-minute kernel workaround we had to put into gutsy
[21:13] <bdmurray> pitti: gnome-mount doesn't use it anymore but it is still in the hal fdi file?
[21:14] <pitti> bdmurray: in current hardy, yes; not any more in my PPA version
[21:14] <pitti> which I hope to get into hardy after alpha6
[21:14] <pitti> since it's obsolete I don't want to carry that delta forever
[21:14] <bdmurray> okay
[21:15] <ubotu> New bug: #198524 in ubuntu "Sometimes, using alt-tab in kde4 makes xorg use over 90% CPU for 5 minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198524
[21:15] <ubotu> New bug: #198525 in gedit (main) "[hardy] gedit crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198525
[21:15] <bdmurray> pitti: bug 115768 has a patch but I'm not sure how relevant it the ntfs-3g bit is anymore
[21:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115768 in hal "hald not parsing policies under /etc/hal/fdi/policy on kubuntu feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115768
[21:16] <pitti> bdmurray: hm; I guess tomorrow I'll check out whether it still reads /etc at all
[21:16] <ubotu> New bug: #198523 in ubuntu "Optical Audio Out Plays At Wrong Speed.." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198523
[21:16] <bdmurray> pitti: actually the hug day page has a table of bugs with patches ~15
[21:18] <pitti> bdmurray: great
[21:18] <pitti> bdmurray: I'll check them out tomorrow, some might already been covered by the PPA version
[21:18] <afflux> bdmurray: Since I've never turned bugs to support requests, could you please have a quick look at bug 122245 and confirm that it's rather a support request?
[21:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122245 in hal "DELL Latitude D600 IR and Bluetooth  driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122245
[21:18] <bdmurray> pitti: and in regards to bug 196811 is it not recognized because the device protocol and subclass don't match for camera?
[21:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196811 in hal "hal does not detect Quickcam Express as v4l-device" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196811
[21:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198526 in apport (main) "apport-gtk crashes when the crash report is not writable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198526
[21:21] <pitti> bdmurray: right, ATM hal only sees this as a generic USB device
[21:21] <pitti> bdmurray: give me a second to check something
[21:21] <bdmurray> pitti: okay, I'm curious to know what you are checking too. ;)
[21:21] <pitti> bdmurray: how hal detects video cameras ATM
[21:22] <pitti> I don't think there are long mappings like for USB cameras and music playes
[21:22] <pitti> (like in hal-info)
[21:22] <bdmurray> afflux: it feels more like they are asking how to configure something rather than I did this configuration and its broken.  Does that make sense?
[21:23] <bdmurray> pitti: right I seem to recall it using usb classes and subclasses
[21:23] <afflux> Sorry, don't get the question
[21:24] <bdmurray> afflux: they haven't said I tried to do this, this and this and it didin't work *here*.  rather, it is more like how do I setup this?
[21:25] <pitti> bdmurray: right, it checks /sysfs for the 'subsystem' property, and only recognizes 'video4linux' devices
[21:25] <pitti> bdmurray: apparently the kernel driver for that camera doesn't set this?
[21:25] <afflux> bdmurray: ah, right. So I'll convert it to a question
[21:25] <pitti> bdmurray: similar to /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules, SUBSYSTEM=="video4linux",GROUP="video"
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #193850 in xen-3.2 (main) "xen-3.2: FTBFS if LDFLAGS are set in env" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193850
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #198528 in alltray (universe) "starting emacs with alltray freezes buffer window" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198528
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198529 in ubuntu "USB wireless card activated with ndiswrapper receive only IPv6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198529
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198530 in hotkey-setup (main) "missing hotkeys for Compal Hel80" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198530
[21:26] <james_w> Is there a way the user can find out what their video card and driver are?
[21:27] <bdmurray> pitti: I seem to recall a conversation with kyle where he indicated the device should properly say what it can do
[21:27] <pitti> right
[21:28] <seb128> james_w: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[21:29] <afflux> asomething: woops, I was too slow for bug 160725
[21:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 160725 in hal "Webcam no more recognized" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160725
[21:29] <pitti> bdmurray: I replied to the bug
[21:29] <bdmurray> pitti: so its the hardware's fault then?
[21:29] <pitti> bdmurray: might also be the kernel driver
[21:29] <james_w> seb128: yeah, that's what I've asked, it's not that convenient though. Thanks anyway.
[21:29] <pitti> bdmurray: I asked for a tarball of /sys, then we can check what the driver exports
[21:29] <afflux> asomething: should I assign you or just reset it to unassigned?
[21:30] <pitti> bdmurray: of course it might also be hardware which needs a proprietary driver, which isn't compatible with the kernel's v4l drivers in the first place
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #198531 in nautilus (main) "Connecting to SSH server gives "The specified location is not mounted" error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198531
[21:37] <asomething> afflux: I subscribed. I thought that when triaging we should subscribe and not assign now?
[21:38] <asomething> assigned implies actively work on a fix
[21:40] <bdmurray> asomething: historically it had been the policy to assign incomplete bugs to yourself, however now the policy/guideline is to subscribe
[21:40] <afflux> gah.
[21:40]  * afflux checks /+me/+assignedbugs
[21:41] <bdmurray> well, it really doesn't matter at the moment
[21:41] <mvo> james_w: looks at the Xorg.0.log is the only way to figure that out that I know of - I use this in the compiz wrapper script, it would be really good to have something better though
[21:41] <bdmurray> but in the future, with the launchpad janitor and incomplete bugs, it might
[21:41] <afflux> ah, its because of expiring?
[21:42] <bdmurray> afflux: right, bug assignment blocks expiration
[21:42] <bdmurray> but the janitor isn't active now so its just best practice
[21:42] <secretlondon> I never assign bugs to myself
[21:42] <afflux> yep, okay
[21:43] <bdmurray> It also didn't used to possible to search for bugs you were subscribed to in Launchpad so I used assignment to follow *my* bugs
[21:44] <secretlondon> with a lot of these we are only looking to see if they reply. Anyone could actually do that
[21:44] <secretlondon> 99% of these are not *my* bugs, I'm just the first responder
[21:44] <james_w> mvo: thanks. Do you grep for something like "using driver:", or do you have a list of drivers to search for?
[21:45] <ubotu> New bug: #198492 in lastfm (universe) "No sound in flash when lastfm is playing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198492
[21:48] <bdmurray> secretlondon: Right, but I haven't seen many people closing incomplete bugs
[21:48] <secretlondon> yes no-one does, but then we don't get told when they expire (I don't think)
[21:49] <secretlondon> I know there is a list that have expired, we should probably just go through them all closing them
[21:49] <afflux> okay, I'm going to bed now. Good night!
[21:49] <secretlondon> night afflux
[21:49] <bdmurray> secretlondon: it's at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+expirable-bugs
[21:49]  * secretlondon nods
[21:49] <bdmurray> but most require careful review
[21:50] <secretlondon> okay. maybe we should have a hug day on expired ones
[21:51] <bdmurray> I've thought about that and apport-bug tagged bugs as those are higher quality
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #198536 in ubuntu "Hardy Alpha5 doesn't display kernel parameters on F6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198536
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #198537 in ubuntu "recent documents don't sort the reopen documents of OpenOffice.org" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198537
[21:51] <bdmurray> One concern I have is the variety of packages affected though
[21:51] <secretlondon> hmm
[21:52] <ubotu> New bug: #174778 in screenlets (universe) "screenlets-daemon.py crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174778
[21:52] <ubotu> New bug: #177854 in screenlets (universe) "screenlets-manager.py crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177854
[21:52] <ubotu> New bug: #185912 in screenlets "CPUMeterScreenlet.py crashed with TypeError in __run_session()" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185912
[21:52] <ubotu> New bug: #189735 in screenlets (universe) "ClockScreenlet.py crashed with Exception in __init__()" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189735
[21:52] <ubotu> New bug: #198533 in ubuntu "Total system freeze caused by SATA drive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198533
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #198442 in gedit (main) "Various programs crash with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198442
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #198540 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-appearance-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198540
[22:00] <ubotu> New bug: #198541 in dnsmasq (universe) "[hardy] dnsmasq: dhcp no longer working with libvirt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198541
[22:00] <bdmurray> ogasawara: shouldn't bug 179138 really be about linux-source-2.6.22?
[22:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 179138 in linux "Special Key support incomplete with HP Compaq 6710b" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179138
[22:05] <ogasawara> bdmurray: hrm that's odd.  I'm not sure why I would have tasked it to 'linux' and not asked to test with Hardy.  but yes, it should be against linux-source-2.6.22 (but it'll get marked as won't fix anyways)
[22:05] <bdmurray> it looks like they opened it on linux
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194816 in ubuntu "Ubuntu Hardy Heron alpha 5 no sound device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194816
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198542 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany-gecko crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198542
[22:06] <bdmurray> Do you want me to ask them to test with Hardy or do you want to?
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198543 in apport (main) "Insuffisient permissions make apport-gtk crash with KeyError in __getitem__()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198543
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198544 in pygame (universe) "Pygame is not finding fonts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198544
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198545 in evince (main) "evince crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 148131)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198545
[22:06] <ogasawara> bdmurray: I'll ask em
[22:06] <bdmurray> ogasawara: I don't think the hal bit is valid
[22:06] <ogasawara> bdmurray: I'll invalidate it for hal
[22:07] <bdmurray> I think they were just trying to get someone to look at it by opening a dozen tasks.
[22:08] <secretlondon> going by the info on debugginghal about 50% of these are not hal bugs
[22:09] <bdmurray> right, hal is wrongly villified
[22:10] <secretlondon> hal = hardware bug
[22:10] <bdmurray> I found another kernel one - surprise!
[22:10] <secretlondon> I've found loads of sound ones, and kernel ones
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #198539 in gnome-settings-daemon (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 197153)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198539
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #198546 in linux-meta (main) "freeze after trying to read from /dev/ttyUSB0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198546
[22:11] <bdmurray> I think people go to hal-device-manager and don't see their hardware and then use report a problem
[22:12] <secretlondon> 198546 is prob connected to the usb 3g modems as they create a ttyUSB0 device
[22:12] <secretlondon> oh its not, but similar ish
[22:16] <ubotu> New bug: #197784 in gnome-media (main) "gstreamer-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_id_get_data()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197784
[22:16] <ubotu> New bug: #198515 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198515
[22:16] <ubotu> New bug: #198548 in apport (main) "apport-qt crashed with AssertionError in __setitem__()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198548
[22:25] <secretlondon> night
[22:26]  * bdmurray waves
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #193511 in screenlets "ACPIBatteryScreenlet.py crashed with UnboundLocalError in getValue()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193511
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #198554 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198554
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #193292 in screenlets "GmailScreenlet.py crashed with ValueError in __init__()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193292
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198549 in gnome-panel (main) "[Hardy] System menu contains an 'About GNOME' option, not 'About Ubuntu'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198549
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198550 in epiphany-browser (main) "package epiphany-browser-data 2.21.92-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198550
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198551 in system-config-printer-kde (main) "system-config-printer-applet-kde crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198551
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198555 in ubuntu "Codec update doesn't work when not logged as first user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198555
[22:40] <ubotu> New bug: #198560 in alacarte (main) "alacarte crashed with TypeError in on_item_tree_cursor_changed() (dup-of: 175602)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198560
[22:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194078 in xterm (main) "Setting boldMode to false does not disable the behaviour" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194078
[22:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198558 in util-linux (main) "hwclock does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198558
[22:51] <ubotu> New bug: #198563 in ubuntu-wallpapers (main) "Both wallpapers called "Simple Ubuntu"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198563
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198569 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Brightness levels dialog leaves artifact on screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198569
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198570 in helix-player (universe) "crash(?) munmap_chunk()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198570
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #198571 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity warns about /usr being too small" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198571
[23:05] <ubotu> New bug: #198574 in cheese (main) "Cheese can't delete images, "Could not find the Trash"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198574
[23:05] <ubotu> New bug: #198576 in ubiquity (main) "Contextual menu options "New partition table" and "New partition" does nothing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198576
[23:06] <ubotu> New bug: #194845 in xorg (main) "No X when starting the latest daily-live Kubuntu-KDE4 liveCD" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194845
[23:06] <ubotu> New bug: #198572 in ubuntu "Can't change the weather in weather applet?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198572
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #198575 in loudmouth (universe) "Please sync loudmouth 1.3.4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198575
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #198577 in ubiquity (main) "add option to partition manager to scrub drive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198577
[23:15] <ubotu> New bug: #198579 in gnucash (universe) "gnucash does not store the state of the view on close" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198579
[23:15] <ubotu> New bug: #198580 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox segfaults while playing in background" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198580
[23:15] <ubotu> New bug: #198581 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Firefox renders some images badly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198581
[23:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198582 in linux-meta (main) "ps3 does not like yaboot as the powerbooks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198582
[23:20] <ubotu> New bug: #198583 in gnome-system-tools (main) "Users and Groups dialog does not allow addition of new user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198583
[23:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198584 in kdepim (main) "crash when applying filter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198584
[23:30] <ubotu> New bug: #198585 in kdepim (main) "kmail is HORRIBLE unstable, crashing ALL THE TIME and loosing data!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198585
[23:31]  * bdmurray bites tongue
[23:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198587 in evolution-data-server (main) "evolution crashed on bootup (dup-of: 183421)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198587
[23:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198588 in gnucash (universe) "gnucash : change the color of a transaction regarding its state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198588
[23:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198590 in bluez-gnome (main) "bluetooth-sendto crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198590
[23:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198591 in gnome-do (universe) "Do.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in mono_method_signature()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198591
[23:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198589 in ubuntu "No cool n' quiet for amd phenom processors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198589
[23:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198592 in restricted-manager "Incorrect 'No proprietary drivers are use'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198592
[23:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198593 in gnome-desktop (main) "gnome-about crashed with KeyError in make_info_label() (dup-of: 186118)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198593