| cjb | Evening. My Dell m1330 takes 25 secs to resume from S3, with latest hardy, due to the SATA link timing out. Is it known? dmesg snippet at http://pastebin.com/m563c7f79 | 01:11 |
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| mjg59 | cjb: I've seen that on other hardware, though mostly with older kernel.s | 01:20 |
| mjg59 | cjb: Do you see the same with gutsy? | 01:20 |
| cjb | mjg59: Dunno, just got the laptop today and installed hardy. Can find out, though. | 01:23 |
| mjg59 | That'd be helpful. You should be able to check from the CD. | 01:24 |
| cjb | 'kay. | 01:24 |
| mjg59 | If it's a regression, that makes life much easier. Otherwise, we need to spend a while working out what's going on :) | 01:25 |
| mjg59 | Is this on every resume, or just the first? | 01:25 |
| cjb | mjg59: possibly every resume *after* the first. | 01:31 |
| cjb | wow, interrupt storm | 01:32 |
| mjg59 | Hm. Interestiny. | 01:32 |
| cjb | 4 root 15 -5 0 0 0 R 100 0.0 169:56.08 ksoftirqd/0 | 01:32 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, you lose. What interrupt? | 01:32 |
| cjb | not sure: http://pastebin.com/m571fa880 | 01:36 |
| cjb | still spinning on ksoftirqd, but the only thing increasing significantly is the timer interrupt at about 100Hz | 01:41 |
| mjg59 | cjb: Huh. | 01:41 |
| mjg59 | That's all very weird. | 01:42 |
| cjb | works fine with Fedora/Rawhide, for whatever that's worth. | 01:57 |
| cjb | oh -- the Fedora install is 64-bit, and Hardy is 32-bit 2.6.24-11-generic. | 02:03 |
| mjg59 | Hm. Kernel code should be generic. | 02:10 |
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| kraut | moin | 08:21 |
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| dda | hi everyone. not sure if such a question is ok here, but in #ubuntu nobody replies.. how to know what parameters can a kernel module accept? in particular, freq_table | 13:18 |
| mjg59 | modinfo | 13:18 |
| dda | wow, that's really simple! thanks :) | 13:20 |
| dda | now I see that there are no params for that module | 13:20 |
| mathiaz | Hi ! I'm currently reworking the wiki pages of the ServerTesting Team. I was wondering what is the minimal information needed when filing a bug about a failed installation ? | 15:01 |
| mathiaz | Let | 15:01 |
| mathiaz | 's that user tried to install alpha5 on a poweredge 1950 and network and disk were not detected | 15:02 |
| rtg | mjg59: BenC has promised to revisit the ACPI patch that I recently reverted for FTBS. cjwatson also mentioned that you had a VT switching patch ? | 15:17 |
| BenC | mathiaz: lspci and dmesg are important for those types of bugs | 16:00 |
| BenC | mathiaz: lspci -vvn to be exact | 16:01 |
| mathiaz | BenC: lspci -vvnn or -vvn ? | 16:04 |
| mathiaz | BenC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies advises -vvnn | 16:05 |
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| mjg59 | rtg: Yeah. I'll send the VT switching patch. | 16:29 |
| rtg | mjg59: I'm gone Mar 6-26, but I'll make sure it gets on the kernel team ToDo list. Thanks. | 16:31 |
| mario_limonciell | rtg, are you already gone for vacation, or got time for a quick question? | 16:47 |
| rtg | mario_limonciell: still here for a couple more hours | 16:47 |
| mario_limonciell | rtg, would it be out of the question to merge sky2 from linus' branch? It appears to resolve some pending suspend issues. There are a number of commits that we are missing, so i'm not sure particularly which one it is that resolves it | 16:48 |
| rtg | mario_limonciell: the best approach is either lum or lbm. It depends on how much change there has been. | 16:49 |
| rtg | mario_limonciell: on 2nd thought, let me look at it. | 16:50 |
| mario_limonciell | okay | 16:50 |
| rtg | mario_limonciell: can you pop the sky2 driver into LUM, build it, and see if it solves your problems? There have been a lot of changes since 2.6.24. It may also be a candidate for LBM. | 16:55 |
| mario_limonciell | rtg, I rebuilt my linux-image with it in place and it appears to resolve the particular issue that we were having | 16:55 |
| mario_limonciell | there is still a different suspend issue that happens occassionally (even if that driver isn't loaded), but the symptoms that we get with that old driver loaded don't happen with the new one | 16:56 |
| rtg | mario_limonciell: the issue that I worry about is regressions if I put sky2 in the kernel (a non-elective package). Thats why I lean towards LBM. | 16:57 |
| mario_limonciell | rtg, understandable. | 16:57 |
| rtg | mario_limonciell: its getting pretty late in the game for big changes. | 16:57 |
| mario_limonciell | rtg, well i'll see if I can narrow down to a commit or two that resolve it particularly | 16:57 |
| mario_limonciell | there are some memory alignment commits that I was leaning towards | 16:58 |
| mario_limonciell | we'd prefer to avoid lbm if possible this time around - | 16:58 |
| rtg | mario_limonciell: looking at the interwoven history of changes, that may be difficult. | 16:58 |
| mario_limonciell | right. | 16:58 |
| BenC | smb, cking, amitk, rtg: ping | 16:59 |
| amitk | BenC: here | 16:59 |
| rtg | BenC: yo | 17:00 |
| cking | BenC: hi | 17:00 |
| BenC | We'll get started and let smb catch up | 17:02 |
| BenC | Ok, welcome to the kernel team meeting. We missed last week because the team was in Lexington for a sprint | 17:03 |
| BenC | Details on out meetings can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 17:03 |
| BenC | *our | 17:03 |
| BenC | We'll start of we individual status | 17:04 |
| * BenC is not typing well today | 17:04 | |
| BenC | I'll blame it on guitar hero | 17:04 |
| BenC | amitk: Want to go first? | 17:04 |
| rtg | 'cause your fingers are bleeding? | 17:04 |
| amitk | sure | 17:04 |
| amitk | Mainly worked with the UME team to get a ubuntu mobile image out to Intel | 17:05 |
| amitk | have been working to integrate newer version of wlan and DRM kernel drivers for the Intel "Atom" processors, as they are now called | 17:06 |
| BenC | amitk: How did the sprint work out for you last week? Did the time with the MID team help? | 17:07 |
| amitk | next up is to looks the USB_PERSIST that we need to enabled to get out of the box support for eee pc and some other machines out there | 17:07 |
| BenC | amitk: out-of-the-box, meaning "with the right kernel param", right? :) | 17:07 |
| amitk | the sprint helped in clarifying the roles of kernel team and the mid teams. They have to do some of the lifting to ensure the Ubuntu has the latest drivers | 17:08 |
| amitk | BenC: I am shooting for "enabled-via-sysfs" | 17:08 |
| amitk | That's it from my end | 17:08 |
| BenC | ok, thanks | 17:09 |
| BenC | rtg: time to hear from you | 17:09 |
| rtg | Besides a zillion bugs and patches applied, the single biggest thing I've worked on is the ABI breakage fixes. | 17:09 |
| rtg | see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Sprints/Feb2008/HeadersABI | 17:10 |
| rtg | Other then that, its just the minutia of kernel builds, uploads, ABI bumps. | 17:10 |
| BenC | Oh, for anyone wanting to see what happened at the sprint, here's the low down: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Sprints/Feb2008 | 17:10 |
| rtg | I'm gone Mar 6-26. | 17:10 |
| rtg | thats all from me. | 17:11 |
| BenC | rtg: thanks | 17:11 |
| BenC | cking: So how have things been going with you? | 17:12 |
| cking | OK - working through the list of kernel bugs, the usual, patching, building, etc.. | 17:12 |
| cking | ..working out a better work flow now that I getting familiar with git and the various build machines | 17:13 |
| BenC | cking: Preempted my next question :) Are you finding enough to do in general? | 17:13 |
| cking | Yes.. and no. Started to run a bit low end of last week.. ..but Monday comes around with more bugs.. | 17:15 |
| cking | ..are there any extra "challenges" then? | 17:15 |
| BenC | Ok, ping me anytime if you find yourself running low | 17:16 |
| BenC | Generally the blueprint list fills in, but this close to release, we don't have that anymore | 17:16 |
| cking | ..well I did look at a few other kernel issues not listed on the bug list to get my karma rating up :-) | 17:16 |
| BenC | cking: yeah, definitely don't let the hardy-buglist be your only source for bugs...there's lots more out there :) | 17:17 |
| BenC | cking: ok, thanks | 17:17 |
| amitk | cking: I am sure the MID guys would love to see you around too :) | 17:17 |
| cking | amitk: yeah - how do I get my teeth into that domain? | 17:18 |
| amitk | cking: you, Ben and I can perhaps discuss this offline | 17:18 |
| cking | ok | 17:18 |
| BenC | One thing would be to get the stock+build-system tree up for intrepid/lpia | 17:19 |
| BenC | for the MID/UME folks | 17:19 |
| BenC | Alright, not much to say about the bug list from last week except that we completely kicked its ass | 17:20 |
| cking | Its a good feeling to do that | 17:20 |
| smb | Oh well, just in case someones interested. ;-) I did mostly bugs. Beside of several smaller bugs, the one which was bigger timewise was the patchset for the i915. Otherwise trying to solve a duplicate vendor id issue upstream and evaluated how to get lum builds without installing the headers (for porter machines and build scripts). | 17:20 |
| BenC | So great work there...only one bug got carried over from last week, and it's In-Progress | 17:20 |
| BenC | smb: Ah, you're here...ok... | 17:20 |
| smb | Yes, sorry. Failed to ping | 17:21 |
| amitk | BenC: right. I cloned Linus' tree and copied over the debian/ dir. But it needs compile testing before pushing out the interpid trees. | 17:21 |
| BenC | amitk: ok, good start, we'll keep that moving to hand over to MID/UME at UDS | 17:22 |
| amitk | As the plan stands, UME Interpid and Ubuntu Interpid will have identical git trees. I'll push something out next week. | 17:22 |
| BenC | Ok, that brings the primary agenda to an end... | 17:23 |
| BenC | First thing I'd like to address is rtg being out for March 6-26...we will be in a general kernel freeze till hardy release, so there wont be much outside of critical bug fixing during that time | 17:24 |
| BenC | but we have some CVE work and testing (LTS=>LTS mainly) to handle, so the rest of us will have to pull his weight | 17:24 |
| rtg | actually, I'm out Mar 5-26. | 17:25 |
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| BenC | Ok, so we wont see you after today until you are sun dried and fat from eating rattle snakes :) | 17:25 |
| rtg | indeed. | 17:25 |
| rtg | I'm getting short timers attitude. | 17:25 |
| BenC | The other thing I want to point out is that we, the kernel team, have been slipping again on using this channel for general discussions | 17:27 |
| BenC | I'm just as guilty (and probably to blame) for it...but we need to make a strong effort to keep discussions here and be more transparent | 17:27 |
| BenC | And with that, I'd like to know if anyone has anything they would like to discuss | 17:29 |
| smb | Hm, not currently | 17:29 |
| cking | Nothing immediately comes to mind | 17:30 |
| amitk | nope | 17:30 |
| BenC | This would also be an opportune time for community to raise any issues | 17:30 |
| BenC | Ok, thanks everyone...meeting is adjourned | 17:31 |
| BenC | Have a great week, and see everyone next week (except rtg) | 17:31 |
| cking | OK | 17:31 |
| smb | Thanks. Till then | 17:31 |
| smb | rtg: Have a safe trip | 17:31 |
| zul | BenC: is there a chance for an iscsi fix im working on to get in for hardy? | 17:32 |
| zul | its basically a cherrypick | 17:33 |
| rtg | zul: request a pull so we can look at it. | 17:33 |
| zul | okies | 17:33 |
| rtg | zul: use the git protocol. I've found that http doesn't seem to work. | 17:34 |
| zul | rtg: yeah I always use git | 17:34 |
| zul | er...git protocol | 17:34 |
| rtg | zul: no, I mean in the pull request, e.g., git://kernel.ubuntu.com/zul/ubuntu-hardy-xen.git | 17:35 |
| zul | ok | 17:35 |
| tjaalton | if you guys want a bug to work on, I've got a crasher which is confirmed :) (bug 189185) | 17:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 189185 in linux "Thinkpad X61 hangs when removing from dock" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189185 | 17:39 |
| j4k3b | BenC: do you have a second to talk privately? | 17:39 |
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| Kano | hi, why does nobody learn from former mistakes? | 20:40 |
| Kano | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb82da6120f7a08405b314377750b17576802c56 | 20:40 |
| Kano | that does not only disable the modules which are in lum when you use: # CONFIG_SOUND is not set | 20:41 |
| Kano | but also the sound modules of video drivers | 20:41 |
| Kano | that patch is crap | 20:42 |
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