| Stormx2` | They were seperate conversations. I'd come into the channel and not even read that. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Stormx2` | I was commenting on XKCD. It was hardly about oral sex or something. | 00:00 |
| ompaul | you were asked not to continue - then you debated the call | 00:00 |
| ompaul | bad idea | 00:00 |
| ompaul | if a call is made it usually has good reason with it | 00:00 |
| ompaul | so leave it to the ops please | 00:00 |
| Stormx2` | good idea, I don't see how anyone can justify stiffling reasonable debate. Sorry I started it in the wrong channel but even so :/ | 00:01 |
| nalioth | Stormx2`: Ubuntu isn't here for "debate" of any kind | 00:01 |
| nalioth | we provide #ubuntu-offtopic as a channel to discuss non help stuff | 00:02 |
| Stormx2` | I'm well aware you do so. | 00:02 |
| ompaul | Stormx2`, so ehh why you here? | 00:02 |
| Stormx2` | A couple of reasons: | 00:03 |
| * ompaul waits for a moment | 00:03 | |
| Stormx2` | 1) To contest that "blows" does any damage to anyone in the channel 2) To complain that I was kicked AND banned because I debated the decision. I would have come in here or brought it to PM if I though that was what you wanted. | 00:04 |
| ompaul | 2) now you know | 00:04 |
| ompaul | 1) it was a context even if you were not aware of it | 00:04 |
| Stormx2` | But was that the best way of telling me? With a ban? | 00:04 |
| ompaul | 0) now lets get on with it | 00:04 |
| mneptok | Stormx2`: i gave you *plenty* of opportunity to back off and let the subject drop. | 00:05 |
| ompaul | the fact is you were asked to back off | 00:05 |
| Stormx2` | Okay, final thing. Where do you draw the line on !ohmy. I mean "blows" is pretty low down on the vulgar scale but things are lower. You must draw it somewhere. | 00:05 |
| ompaul | no | 00:05 |
| ompaul | there is no line - only context and common sense | 00:05 |
| ompaul | and when I say that it means that the line position may change given conditions | 00:05 |
| LjL | Stormx2`, no, there are many lines that just cannot arbitrarily be drawn no matter how hard we'd try. and hey, if there *were* a way to draw such lines with inequivocable clearness, we'd just have a bot instead of ops. | 00:06 |
| Stormx2` | Bots can't understand context. | 00:06 |
| * mneptok is actually ~3500 lines of Python | 00:06 | |
| LjL | Stormx2`: and indeed we have ops. | 00:06 |
| mneptok | Stormx2`: and neither can people who, by their own admission, just joined a channel | 00:06 |
| LjL | mneptok: that's your problem, the language. | 00:06 |
| Stormx2` | mneptok, wait, what? | 00:07 |
| Stormx2` | I understand the context of my own remarks, thanks very much. | 00:07 |
| Stormx2` | o.O | 00:07 |
| Stormx2` | When I joined doesn't come into that. | 00:07 |
| Stormx2` | Anyway | 00:08 |
| * nickrud thinks mneptok needs an upgrade | 00:08 | |
| Stormx2` | Whatever. I still thing it's very knitpicky. | 00:08 |
| Stormx2` | But point taken, I'll contest things in here. | 00:08 |
| Stormx2` | You guys do a good job 99.9% of the time :) | 00:08 |
| ompaul | Stormx2`, your context is not in debate here - as for knitpicking when you point one finger several others point back in your direction | 00:08 |
| ompaul | Stormx2`, please drop it now | 00:08 |
| Stormx2` | ompaul: I was about to. Those were my closing remarks o.O | 00:09 |
| ompaul | with that I point to the topic of this channel and bit you a good day | 00:09 |
| Stormx2` | Kay, cya | 00:09 |
| ompaul | arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 00:09 |
| ompaul | the full moon is out :) | 00:10 |
| nickrud | irc op is punishment indeed | 00:10 |
| * ompaul whips self to remind self | 00:11 | |
| nalioth | do we have a macedonian language channel? | 00:43 |
| mneptok | !mk | 02:02 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about mk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 02:02 |
| ubotu | SNuxoll called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (CSlime) | 03:13 |
| nalioth | a troll. | 03:15 |
| nalioth | pure and unadulterated. | 03:15 |
| mneptok | aye | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | and -uncensored is wondering why he got klined | 03:28 |
| nalioth | Hobbsee: oh? | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | nalioth: aren't you there? | 03:32 |
| nalioth | yes, in another shell | 03:33 |
| nalioth | had to go look at it | 03:34 |
| nalioth | you are aware of why, right? | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | trolling, apparently. i'm not in -offtopic | 03:35 |
| nalioth | ahh, you missed it. | 03:35 |
| nalioth | it was classic | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | /query me with it? | 03:36 |
| mneptok | ugh. | 04:02 |
| mneptok | plz eat DrDerek kthxbai | 04:03 |
| PriceChild | Its an ompaul! | 06:19 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, 10 points for a correct answer, and your next question is what time is it? | 06:20 |
| PriceChild | Its "too early" o'clock | 06:26 |
| nalioth | not for trolls | 06:26 |
| nalioth | unfortunately | 06:26 |
| PriceChild | Uu a nalioth too. | 06:27 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, did not not feel the network quake | 06:27 |
| PriceChild | ompaul: hmm? | 06:27 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, me n mr n at the same time | 06:28 |
| PriceChild | ahh | 06:29 |
| PriceChild | scary stuff | 06:29 |
| * PriceChild checks out nin | 06:31 | |
| nalioth | PriceChild: ghosts.nin.com | 06:31 |
| ompaul | its a bit early for that | 06:31 |
| PriceChild | nalioth: yup already got it :) | 06:31 |
| PriceChild | thanks | 06:31 |
| ubotu | credible called the ops in #ubuntu (basketball589) | 07:59 |
| jussi01 | Morning lads and ladies | 08:56 |
| elkbuntu | Amaranth, i'm pretty sure there'll be few people lining up to report drderek missing if he were to meet such circumstances... ie... kick him if he gets even stupider | 09:35 |
| Amaranth | indeed | 09:35 |
| AndrewB | Am I not right in guessing that ubotu changed owners recently? | 12:33 |
| AndrewB | !User list --capability=owner | 12:35 |
| AndrewB | ubotu: User list --capability=owner | 12:35 |
| AndrewB | =/ | 12:35 |
| AndrewB | oh it is Seveas still | 12:36 |
| Mez | !botabuse | AndrewB :P | 13:26 |
| ubotu | AndrewB :P: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. | 13:26 |
| Pici | Tsk tsk | 13:26 |
| Mez | Pici, ? me or AndrewB ? | 13:27 |
| Pici | AndrewB ;) | 13:27 |
| Mez | :P | 13:27 |
| AndrewB | heh | 13:28 |
| AndrewB | Mez: approve me on the GB translators dammit or you will be getting bot abuse! ;) | 13:29 |
| Mez | AndrewB, /msg | 13:30 |
| Pici | hmm http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/sortChannel/channel=%23ubuntu-offtopic | 14:14 |
| jussi01 | hmmm, which bot? | 14:15 |
| Pici | dunno | 14:15 |
| Pici | Amaranth is looking... or is going to kick everyone | 14:15 |
| Amaranth | I fired off an email too | 14:17 |
| Amaranth | Mez: Get anything interesting? | 14:18 |
| Amaranth | it's probably stealthed like those other log bots | 14:18 |
| Pici | Besides an imprint of Seveas's shoe? | 14:18 |
| Amaranth | Seveas: Your script is messed up, you didn't drop the +o | 14:19 |
| Pici | Amaranth: He never does, I think its on purpose | 14:19 |
| Amaranth | Alright, lets go through a list here | 14:19 |
| Amaranth | aoupi | 14:19 |
| Amaranth | anyone know who that is? | 14:19 |
| Pici | yes | 14:19 |
| Mez | Amaranth, I might have | 14:19 |
| Amaranth | Aranel | 14:19 |
| Mez | -Eneloop- VERSION Orbit Technology v1.6.18 | 14:19 |
| Amaranth | good enough for me | 14:19 |
| Mez | -Aranel- VERSION Seni Ilgilendirmeyen Bir Surum | 14:20 |
| Amaranth | weird nick, never heard of them, never seen them talk before | 14:20 |
| Mez | hmm I also got | 14:20 |
| Mez | <zenrox> pissoff now or ill get you, i know who you are and whare you live | 14:20 |
| Amaranth | then again... | 14:20 |
| jussi01 | lovely | 14:20 |
| Amaranth | eneloop joined again way too fast | 14:21 |
| Mez | !CoC | zenrox | 14:21 |
| ubotu | zenrox: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | 14:21 |
| Mez | !CoC > zenrox | 14:21 |
| Amaranth | I don't know anyone but us that autorejoins on force part except us | 14:21 |
| Amaranth | That looked more like "oops, i left this channel, better get back in to log" | 14:21 |
| Amaranth | is #ubuntu logged too? | 14:22 |
| Pici | No | 14:22 |
| Pici | http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/status | 14:22 |
| Amaranth | Yes | 14:22 |
| Pici | yes? | 14:22 |
| Amaranth | http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/sortChannel/channel=%23ubuntu | 14:22 |
| Amaranth | and Eneloop is in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:22 |
| Pici | I'd see what users are in those freenode channels and cross reference them between each other | 14:22 |
| Amaranth | I'd banforward random people to here but then they might start logging here :P | 14:23 |
| LjL | arrr | 14:23 |
| Mez | Freenode Channels where bot is on: #zftalk #ubuntu-offtopic,#trac,#symfony,#adium,'madwifi,#debianfr | 14:24 |
| Amaranth | Mez: But they are apparently logging #ubuntu too | 14:24 |
| Pici | I think its a neat idea, but I don't remember anyone asking to do it. | 14:24 |
| Mez | yes, but Currently thats offline | 14:24 |
| Amaranth | or they were 24 hours ago | 14:24 |
| jussi01 | #ubuntu #ubuntu-devel #ubuntu-fr #ubuntu-offtopic are all listed in the list at the bottom of the links page | 14:24 |
| Amaranth | damnit, i need a small channel :P | 14:25 |
| LjL | summarize for me please - we have a couple of bots (eneloop, aranel...? with different version replies?) logging links that are said on channels - correct? | 14:25 |
| Amaranth | We don't know who the bots are but yes, we have bot(s) in multiple channels logging links | 14:25 |
| Pici | LjL: http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/sortChannel/channel=%23ubuntu-offtopic | 14:25 |
| jussi01 | LjL: that sounds about right to me | 14:25 |
| LjL | Pici: yes i've clicked | 14:26 |
| Pici | LjL: ah, okay :) | 14:26 |
| Pici | Wasn't sure if you missed the link | 14:26 |
| LjL | so they've been there for ages | 14:26 |
| LjL | well, weeks | 14:26 |
| Amaranth | looks like 3 weeks to a month | 14:26 |
| LjL | "aranel" rings a bell somehow | 14:26 |
| PriceChild | Why don't we just figure out how long 10027 is and see who joined then | 14:27 |
| LjL | Pici: how long what is? | 14:27 |
| LjL | err, price | 14:27 |
| PriceChild | Well t hat page infers they've been online 10027 seconds...? | 14:27 |
| LjL | they have? | 14:27 |
| LjL | well | 14:28 |
| LjL | tell you in a moment | 14:28 |
| PriceChild | doesn't it? | 14:28 |
| Amaranth | that's almost 3 hours | 14:28 |
| PriceChild | http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/status | 14:28 |
| LjL | yeah indeed that's nothing | 14:28 |
| PriceChild | Amaranth: pardon? | 14:28 |
| PriceChild | LjL: pardon? | 14:28 |
| Amaranth | --> sen3 (n=sen@193.190.63.142) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:28 |
| Amaranth | --> benzss (n=huhu@5ac0fb33.bb.sky.com) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:28 |
| Amaranth | <-- tonyyarusso has quit (Nick collision from services.) | 14:28 |
| Amaranth | --> tonyyarusso (n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:28 |
| Amaranth | --> neeto (n=chatzill@207.62.165.156) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:28 |
| Amaranth | </flood> | 14:28 |
| Amaranth | so it'd be sen3, benzss, tonyyarusso, or neeto :P | 14:29 |
| LjL | 12:42:37 03/04/08 | 14:29 |
| LjL | is 10027 seconds ago | 14:29 |
| LjL | CET | 14:29 |
| Amaranth | sen3 is not there | 14:30 |
| Amaranth | benzss is in too many channels that don't fit | 14:30 |
| jussi01 | Amaranth: not tonyyarusso hehe | 14:30 |
| Amaranth | jussi01: i know :P | 14:30 |
| jussi01 | :P | 14:30 |
| Amaranth | and neeto is not there | 14:31 |
| Amaranth | so that number either isn't seconds or doesn't mean anything | 14:31 |
| PriceChild | are you sure? I calculate it being nearer 11:40 utc, DOOM_NX | 14:31 |
| Amaranth | ah, right, i was a few minutes off | 14:32 |
| LjL | PriceChild: i checked with 10027, course it's changed now... | 14:32 |
| Amaranth | stupid rounding | 14:32 |
| LjL | 11:39:35 03/04/08 UTC | 14:32 |
| Amaranth | DOOM_NX is in channels that aren't being logged | 14:33 |
| PriceChild | yup | 14:33 |
| PriceChild | He's not a bot. | 14:33 |
| Mez | The status page also says that he's in #debianfr | 14:33 |
| Amaranth | this is so frustrating | 14:34 |
| Mez | I've whoised all in there cept the ops, and none of them are in -offtopic | 14:34 |
| Amaranth | so it's multiple bots then | 14:34 |
| LjL | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58372/ this is for -ot | 14:34 |
| Mez | no ops are in there either | 14:35 |
| Amaranth | gah, why is debian so broken | 14:35 |
| LjL | they *aren't* (afawk) in any channels that aren't listed at http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/status though, are they? | 14:36 |
| Amaranth | Alright, I don't have time for this | 14:37 |
| * Amaranth goes back to hating debian for making his work harder | 14:37 | |
| Mez | They're not in some of the channels eitehr.... | 14:37 |
| Pici | hmm | 14:37 |
| Mez | (#scrutator I've looked on lango, efnet, they're not there | 14:37 |
| jussi01 | I suspect there is more than one bot, and they have different bots in deifferent channels correct? | 14:38 |
| Pici | I was about to say it was 'beasty' but hes not in all of the freenode channels | 14:38 |
| LjL | jussi01: yes | 14:38 |
| LjL | #ubuntu is offline now | 14:38 |
| Amaranth | well that rules eneloop out | 14:39 |
| LjL | the entire freenode is offline now | 14:39 |
| Pici | hm | 14:40 |
| LjL | #symfony: [15:40:02] --> Albah has joined this channel (n=Albah@213.135.233.70). | 14:40 |
| Mez | do we have anyone matching 88.191.48.117 | 14:40 |
| LjL | /whois albah | 14:40 |
| Myrtti | whazzup | 14:40 |
| Pici | seems likely | 14:40 |
| LjL | Pici: not likely, it's it | 14:40 |
| Pici | Myrtti: hi! we're playing detective today | 14:40 |
| Myrtti | cool | 14:40 |
| PriceChild | Mez: going through a load to see | 14:40 |
| Amaranth | Well that solves that | 14:41 |
| Mez | Albah is the name that was given to a bot ... | 14:41 |
| LjL | it *says* the name of the bot on the site :) | 14:41 |
| Mez | (it mentions albah on the site) | 14:41 |
| Pici | I must have mispelled it when I did the whois the first time | 14:41 |
| Mez | It's in #u-t now too | 14:41 |
| Mez | which I didnt see before | 14:41 |
| Amaranth | u-t? | 14:42 |
| Mez | * [Albah] #ubuntu-offtopic #python.de #symfony #madwifi #zftalk #ruby #adium #seagull | 14:42 |
| Mez | u-ot | 14:42 |
| Amaranth | not anymore | 14:42 |
| Mez | looks like it was just rebooted too :D | 14:42 |
| Mez | 97s online | 14:42 |
| LjL | yeah it just joined | 14:43 |
| Amaranth | Banned from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:43 |
| Mez | where's .lu ? | 14:44 |
| jussi01 | lithuania? | 14:44 |
| Mez | They've just launched another few bots too.. | 14:44 |
| LjL | luxemburg | 14:45 |
| Amaranth | Luxumbourg? | 14:45 |
| Amaranth | i never spell that right | 14:45 |
| LjL | me neither | 14:45 |
| Mez | * [RedDwarf] (~RedDwarf@lango-5CD71EA1.lo2k.net): None | 14:45 |
| Mez | * [RedDwarf] #scrutator | 14:45 |
| Pici | .lu Luxembourg | 14:45 |
| Mez | thats a masked address on another server for another bot | 14:45 |
| LjL | Mez: on another network right? | 14:46 |
| Mez | LjL - yeah | 14:46 |
| Mez | and | 14:46 |
| Mez | * [scrutator] (~scrutator@oil-ocean.lo2k.net): None | 14:46 |
| LjL | well, no *.lo2k.net on freenode | 14:46 |
| Mez | LjL, we cant see that ... | 14:47 |
| Mez | I dont think | 14:47 |
| Pici | And concidering the one bot isnt set +s (?) I dont think the others would be | 14:47 |
| LjL | Mez: well, yeah if they are +i we can't, but given i'm in all channels they claim to monitor, i should see them | 14:47 |
| LjL | Pici: +i | 14:48 |
| LjL | Pici: +s is for channels | 14:48 |
| Mez | Dave2, fancy checking if there are any annoying lil bleeders from that mask ? | 14:48 |
| Pici | LjL: Hence the question mark :) | 14:48 |
| jussi01 | Pici: how did you come across that site in the first place? | 14:49 |
| Mez | I swear I saw Dave2 around a second ago | 14:49 |
| Pici | jussi01: magnetron pasted it in #u-ot, I think he was googling for himself | 14:50 |
| jussi01 | ahh, ok then | 14:50 |
| LjL | Pici: you question, i answer | 14:50 |
| * Mez may have also found some more bots | 14:51 | |
| Dave2 | I see nothing related. And why does my xchat keep hanging. | 14:53 |
| Mez | Dave2, cause xchat sucks ? | 14:53 |
| Mez | <Amaranth> Albah: Are you a bot? | 14:55 |
| Mez | <Albah> Amaranth: You do not have permission to access this page when the sun and moon and stars are you. | 14:55 |
| Mez | LMAO I didn't notice that | 14:55 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 14:55 |
| Mez | * scrutator (~scrutator@oil-ocean.lo2k.net) has joined #scrutator <-- FQDN (unmasked) from efnet | 14:57 |
| LjL | Dave2, can you make me contact for #ubuntu-lt please? | 14:59 |
| Mez | Dave2 is the shineh | 15:07 |
| LjL | noticed... | 15:07 |
| LjL | gary, please? | 15:07 |
| Gary | LjL: canna do that yet | 15:07 |
| Gary | Dave2 should, or better still ask nalioth | 15:07 |
| LjL | both unavailable it seems | 15:07 |
| * Mez slaps Dave2 | 15:07 | |
| Dave2 | ow | 15:07 |
| LjL | eh... you were marked away now | 15:08 |
| Mez | LjL, hehe - but he's also chatting in another channel ;0 | 15:08 |
| Mez | Dave2, fancy a drink later? | 15:08 |
| Mez | I think you owe me one from last time ;) | 15:08 |
| Dave2 | Hah, I have far too much work to get done and 10 days to get it done in | 15:08 |
| Dave2 | LjL, want me to drop the channel and op you so you can register? | 15:10 |
| Dave2 | with a fresh channel setup | 15:10 |
| LjL | Dave2: same for me | 15:10 |
| Gary | LjL: is that a L for -lt and if so where is lt? | 15:10 |
| Dave2 | Lithuania | 15:10 |
| Gary | oh, d'oh | 15:10 |
| LjL | Dave2: thanks | 15:11 |
| Dave2 | I'll take that as a yes :P | 15:11 |
| Gary | should have known that, what with all the broken lt cars in our carpark (motorway rescue) | 15:11 |
| Mez | Dave2, So that's a no then ? | 15:11 |
| Dave2 | ? | 15:11 |
| Mez | <Mez> Dave2, fancy a drink later? | 15:12 |
| Mez | <Mez> I think you owe me one from last time ;) | 15:12 |
| Mez | <+Dave2> Hah, I have far too much work to get done and 10 days to get it done in | 15:12 |
| Dave2 | ah, yes, I really need to get this done. no idea how I'm going to \o/ | 15:12 |
| Mez | so no beer ? :( | 15:12 |
| Dave2 | indeed | 15:12 |
| Mez | meh | 15:13 |
| jussi01 | Mez: Ill shout you 2 beers if you make it to my local :P | 15:13 |
| Mez | jussi01, which is wher E? | 15:13 |
| jussi01 | Mez: Oulu, Finland :P | 15:14 |
| Mez | bit far from me | 15:14 |
| jussi01 | yeah, figures... | 15:15 |
| jussi01 | you might not like the weather either | 15:15 |
| Mez | It's actually vaguely sunny here | 15:15 |
| jussi01 | we have a nice -9 here :) http://weather.willab.fi/weather.html | 15:16 |
| jussi01 | that weather station is about 1km from my house :D | 15:16 |
| Daviey | we have 8-9 here (or that is what my car said) | 15:16 |
| Daviey | "+" | 15:17 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 15:17 |
| * jussi01 is ~200kms from te arctic circle | 15:17 | |
| Mez | 8ᴼ here | 15:20 |
| Mez | ⚠ | 15:24 |
| Jack_Sparrow | nickrud, I see -9 and wonder what scale that is on.. you and I will both have weather in the high 60's today | 15:46 |
| jussi01 | Jack_Sparrow: celsius | 15:47 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Is there a multiplier for that.. :) | 15:47 |
| Jack_Sparrow | 71 f here yesterday | 15:48 |
| jussi01 | Jack_Sparrow: google has a good converter | 15:48 |
| Jack_Sparrow | 21.6 c to you | 15:49 |
| Jack_Sparrow | your -9 is our 15 | 15:49 |
| jussi01 | Jack_Sparrow: 16to you | 15:49 |
| nickrud | Jack_Sparrow: heh. Southern Cal has some advantages | 15:49 |
| jussi01 | Jack_Sparrow: Id love 21 degrees mmmm... warmth | 15:51 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Our house was not heated until this year..... Took it out 15 years ago and never got around to putting one in. | 15:52 |
| jussi01 | Jack_Sparrow: I die with out heating | 15:52 |
| Jack_Sparrow | I can believe that. To us it was not a big deal... Occasionally get up in the am and bake something to warm the house | 15:53 |
| Jack_Sparrow | take care, time for me to have breakfast and do some exercises. | 15:54 |
| LjL | is it just me or is there amazingly little activity in #ubuntu today | 16:47 |
| Amaranth | yeah, it's weird | 16:48 |
| Amaranth | it was busier than this overnight (US) | 16:48 |
| Amaranth | i suppose i could blame politics | 16:48 |
| Amaranth | but that's only a couple states | 16:49 |
| Seeker` | It does seem quite dead | 16:49 |
| Seeker` | I'm sure I could go and start spamming stuff if you are bored :P | 16:50 |
| Pici | It was busy this morning. | 16:50 |
| no0tic | probably it's the right time for my question :) | 16:52 |
| nalioth | Seeker`: you and nickserv fighting again? | 16:55 |
| Seeker` | nalioth: yup | 16:58 |
| Seeker` | nalioth: better? | 16:58 |
| Pici | yay | 16:58 |
| Mez | Question: What should we do if a user responds with a threatening message to a CTCP version? | 17:07 |
| Mez | /whois zenrox | 17:07 |
| Mez | /ctcp zenrox version | 17:07 |
| nalioth | 1204650512 11:08 CTCP VERSION reply from zenrox: xchat 2.8.4 Ubuntu ?? | 17:08 |
| nalioth | i see | 17:09 |
| Mez | nalioth, did you not get the message aswell? | 17:09 |
| nalioth | yes, it was up in the high numbers | 17:09 |
| Mez | ah, irssi ;) | 17:10 |
| nalioth | i've requested he change it | 17:11 |
| Mez | :) | 17:11 |
| Pici | Gah. What is with the bad advice today. | 18:16 |
| jdong | Pici: have you checked the forums? | 18:23 |
| * Pici gives up, goes to lunch | 18:23 | |
| === mc44_ is now known as mc44 | ||
| === nalioth_ is now known as nalioth | ||
| Seveas | !ping | 20:33 |
| ubotu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 20:33 |
| Amaranth | Hey, I heard back from the logging guy | 21:04 |
| Amaranth | He says the bots are run by other people that just plug into his API | 21:04 |
| Amaranth | 'If you don't want this bot on your channel, please put channel in private. If channel is in "public", I presume logging is authorised.' | 21:04 |
| Amaranth | then he said to just ban it | 21:04 |
| Amaranth | which we did :D | 21:04 |
| nalioth | Amaranth: and klined | 21:06 |
| nalioth | can any of you power users tell me why my torrents and irc work fine but my web browsers and email client just sit and spin? | 21:12 |
| Amaranth | nalioth: DNS? | 21:20 |
| nalioth | Amaranth: how are the torrents finding their way? | 21:21 |
| PriceChild | dht? | 21:21 |
| tritium | Who grants ubuntu/member hostmasks? Seveas? | 21:21 |
| Amaranth | nalioth: Peer Exchange is IP based | 21:21 |
| nalioth | tritium: the council | 21:21 |
| PriceChild | tritium: me, nal, lj.l or elky | 21:21 |
| tritium | PriceChild: ah, okay. We have a newly-approved member in our LoCo that needs a hostmask. | 21:22 |
| PriceChild | tritium: send him in once he's followed http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup to link two nicks and set an email :) | 21:22 |
| tritium | PriceChild: thanks. gcleric did you see that? | 21:23 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: please follow http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup to link two nicknames and set an email. | 21:23 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: Could I also have your launchpad url./ | 21:23 |
| tritium | Thanks for your help, PriceChild. | 21:23 |
| nalioth | Amaranth: i can ping www.yahoo.com, too | 21:23 |
| nalioth | if it's DNS, it's not systemic | 21:24 |
| gcleric | PriceChild: https://launchpad.net/~grammatoncleric | 21:24 |
| nalioth | gcleric: please identify to services | 21:24 |
| tritium | PriceChild: I can provide you a link to the membership announcement on UWN, if you need. | 21:24 |
| gcleric | PriceChild: and I've registered my nick to gcleric | 21:24 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: equilibrium? | 21:25 |
| nalioth | PriceChild: of course | 21:25 |
| gcleric | yup... | 21:25 |
| gcleric | =) | 21:25 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: please identify to nickserv. | 21:25 |
| nalioth | gcleric: we cannot proceed until you're identified | 21:25 |
| === credible_ is now known as credible | ||
| gcleric | /msg nickserv link gcleric wanqui-1 | 21:26 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: please identify to services and change your password immediately. | 21:27 |
| tritium | remove leading space | 21:27 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: /msg nickserv set password <newpassword> | 21:27 |
| nalioth | gcleric: you cant link or do anything with your nickserv account until you identify to it | 21:27 |
| nalioth | you guys are putting the horse before the cart | 21:27 |
| nalioth | he needs to identify to nickserv | 21:27 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: yay you're identified. Please change your password immediately if you haven't already? | 21:29 |
| gcleric | done/ | 21:30 |
| gcleric | sorry for taking so long I'm at work. | 21:30 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: so you've got a linked nickname and email set? | 21:31 |
| gcleric | yes, I believe so.. | 21:31 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: ok cool, one moment while I find a staffer to apply the cloak :) | 21:34 |
| gcleric | thanks. | 21:34 |
| tritium | Many thanks, PriceChild, nalioth. | 21:34 |
| tritium | gcleric: do you know who to talk to for an @ubuntu.com email addy? | 21:35 |
| PriceChild | tritium: they are set up automanually, from days to a week or so. | 21:35 |
| PriceChild | I 'think' its elmo that takes care of them. | 21:35 |
| tritium | Ah, so he may already have it. Thanks for the info. | 21:35 |
| gcleric | thanks so much.. =) | 21:36 |
| tritium | gcleric: try sending a test email to gcleric@ubuntu.com | 21:36 |
| PriceChild | tritium: gcleric: you will get a grammatoncleric@ubuntu.com address as that is your launchpad id. | 21:36 |
| tritium | ah, right, not gcleric | 21:36 |
| gcleric | =) | 21:37 |
| gcleric | testing now/ | 21:37 |
| gcleric | does not appear to be setup yet. | 21:39 |
| gcleric | PriceChild: thanks for the help. =) | 21:42 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: no problem, please stick around until we get the cloak turned on | 21:45 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: You do not have a linked nick. | 21:48 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: please follow http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup to setup a linked nick, ask if you need help with something. | 21:49 |
| tritium | PriceChild: I think he got called off to put out some fire at work. He'll return shortly, hopefully. | 21:49 |
| PriceChild | tritium: An original excuse, will let him off this time. | 21:51 |
| tritium | :) | 21:53 |
| tritium | I'll return later as well... | 21:53 |
| gcleric | I'm back... | 21:57 |
| gcleric | PriceChild: done.. | 22:00 |
| magnetron | hi, i'm wondering what the policy about bringing logging bots to #ubuntu-* channels is. | 22:01 |
| PriceChild | gcleric: could you paste the output of "/msg nickserv info gcleric" into a pm with me so I can check? | 22:01 |
| Amaranth_ | 'the only mail I receive is from "open source" channels which don't like to have his links spread around the world.' | 22:02 |
| PriceChild | magnetron: the bot logging urls was klined from the network. | 22:02 |
| Amaranth_ | 'I will add an "if" in my API just for you. I don't want to spread links from a community so close minded.' | 22:02 |
| Amaranth_ | this guy is fun | 22:02 |
| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| magnetron | PriceChild: it came back, it's here again with the name Jyaku and hostname men75-1-81-57-40-39.fbx.proxad.net | 22:03 |
| PriceChild | magnetron: gimme a moment | 22:03 |
| Amaranth | arg | 22:04 |
| PriceChild | magnetron: What channels? | 22:04 |
| Amaranth | I just told this guy to cut it out | 22:04 |
| magnetron | PriceChild: #trac #ubuntu #seagull #ubuntu-fr #adium #zftalk #ubuntu-devel #python.de | 22:05 |
| PriceChild | (more than whois?) | 22:05 |
| PriceChild | Amaranth: the status page has been locked down to guests also. | 22:05 |
| Pici | heh | 22:05 |
| PriceChild | Amaranth: what was the trigger it responded to last time/ | 22:05 |
| Amaranth | Jyaku: Are you a bot? | 22:06 |
| Amaranth | it just did it again in -devel | 22:06 |
| Amaranth | Apparently this guy wants to get his stuff completely banned from freenode... | 22:07 |
| Seeker` | whats going on? | 22:07 |
| magnetron | PriceChild: he was on the quakenet irc network too. i found the bot in a channel named #scrutator on that network. he was there, and the bot in that channel was named Mez with the real name Martin Meredith | 22:07 |
| magnetron | i would like to ask Mez if he knows anything about the bot | 22:08 |
| Pici | Are you sure that wasn't our Mez? | 22:08 |
| magnetron | Pici: it was the same nickname and real name, i was coming here to ask him about it. | 22:09 |
| Pici | magnetron: I believe its him, he was looking for the bots on at least efnet earlier today | 22:10 |
| magnetron | ok, so that's why | 22:10 |
| Amaranth | Yeah, he was tracking them across all the networks they were showing on their status page | 22:11 |
| LjL | http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/status now gives "not authorized" | 22:16 |
| LjL | i suspect they want us to stop knowing the bot's name... | 22:16 |
| Amaranth | I told they guy he'd better just give up on freenode completely | 22:16 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, ryanakca said: kde4support is Please join #kubuntu-kde4 for support. See !KDE4 | 22:17 |
| LjL | argh, again | 22:17 |
| LjL | !kde4 | 22:17 |
| ubotu | KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 | 22:17 |
| LjL | i *really* don't see why we should have a separate "support" factoid | 22:17 |
| PriceChild | agreed | 22:17 |
| nalioth | Amaranth: you've talked to the logbotmaster? | 22:18 |
| Amaranth | Yeah, he has/had a contact email on the site | 22:18 |
| LjL | nalioth, an operator of some channel sent them an e-mail about it (who and which channel, i don't remember, but i can check logs i suppose) | 22:18 |
| Amaranth | LjL: that'd be me? | 22:18 |
| nalioth | Amaranth: ah. | 22:19 |
| LjL | Amaranth, not sure, i don't think i looked at the nickname at all | 22:19 |
| nalioth | well, until they contact the staff, we're gonna keep klining them | 22:19 |
| Amaranth | First email said bots were not allowed without permission from the irc council and asked him to remove them, then he got pretty upset/hostile | 22:19 |
| Amaranth | Then I told him he should keep them off freenode completely as they are being actively looked for and klined | 22:19 |
| PriceChild | mmmmm humbug | 22:19 |
| Pici | Amaranth: Was that about when the status page became unavailable? | 22:20 |
| Amaranth | I just sent that second mail like 5 minutes ago | 22:20 |
| Amaranth | He probably took down the status page around the time he started emailing me though | 22:20 |
| Amaranth | Would have been about an hour ago | 22:21 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, ryanakca said: kde4 is <alias> kde4support | 22:21 |
| Pici | ... | 22:21 |
| LjL | i don't... *think*... so | 22:21 |
| PriceChild | I'll message him. | 22:21 |
| Amaranth | other way around? | 22:21 |
| Pici | I was going to suggest inviting him here, but whatever. | 22:21 |
| LjL | Pici: what i did | 22:21 |
| PriceChild | Pici: seems like someone has :) | 22:21 |
| LjL | PriceChild: oh look just pm | 22:23 |
| PriceChild | k | 22:23 |
| Amaranth | i wish i had some way of being notified when someone joins #adium and/or #trac at the same time as #ubuntu-offtopic | 22:26 |
| Pici | I was wishing for a way of comparing /names between two channels earlier today | 22:27 |
| LjL | Pici: heh we think alike | 22:27 |
| LjL | Pici: except i was going to compare /who (hostmasks) | 22:27 |
| Amaranth | that too | 22:27 |
| PriceChild | He wants it because the "support in -kde4" bit is all the way at the end | 22:27 |
| Amaranth | you guys use irssi, write a little script | 22:27 |
| Seeker` | couldn't you write a script that calls diff? | 22:27 |
| LjL | PriceChild, things are most prominent when they're either at the beginning or at the end of a message. | 22:28 |
| LjL | Seeker`, that's one way i suppose, but i think it's more complicated than it sounds | 22:28 |
| Pici | I just ended up throwing them into a file and running sort/uniq on them. | 22:29 |
| PriceChild | So what shall I say? | 22:29 |
| Pici | Hi! | 22:29 |
| Pici | "Have you asked your question on the forums yet?" | 22:29 |
| PriceChild | :) | 22:29 |
| Amaranth | @lart Pici | 22:29 |
| Amaranth | aww, i thought it worked here too | 22:29 |
| Pici | As did I | 22:30 |
| LjL | uh, is he around again | 22:31 |
| ryanakca | LjL: oops, sorry, didn't see the invites in my status window | 22:35 |
| LjL | ryanakca: well no problem, price talked to you about it i think | 22:36 |
| ryanakca | LjL: mind if I add Quizbuntu to the list of bots with cloaks on IrcTeam/Cloaks ? | 22:38 |
| LjL | ryanakca: since it has a cloak... no | 22:38 |
| ryanakca | LjL: /whois ? | 22:39 |
| ryanakca | oh, sorry | 22:39 |
| ryanakca | my bad, I thought you had say "since it has no cloak" :) | 22:40 |
| ryanakca | and, the page shows "ubuntu/member/nickname" and "ubuntu/bot/$nickname", mind if I remove the $? | 22:41 |
| LjL | ryanakca: make it italic perhaps | 22:41 |
| LjL | i mean, both | 22:41 |
| ryanakca | ok | 22:41 |
| Seeker` | are you guys hunting / removing log bots? | 22:44 |
| Amaranth | yes | 22:45 |
| Amaranth | did you find one? | 22:45 |
| Seeker` | Amaranth: No, just wanted to make sure that Mootbot was safe :) | 22:47 |
| LjL | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot | 22:47 |
| LjL | it quite is | 22:47 |
| LjL | we aren't huting *our* bots | 22:48 |
| Seeker` | LjL: Just wanted to make sure noone got a bit overzealous | 22:49 |
| LjL | Seeker`: well, mootbot might definitely want an ubuntu/bot cloak | 22:50 |
| LjL | oh my | 22:50 |
| LjL | /whois ljl2 | 22:51 |
| LjL | actually, /whois ljl2 ljl2 | 22:51 |
| LjL | how on earth has that stayed connected | 22:51 |
| Amaranth | wow | 22:52 |
| Amaranth | also, you don't have /wii? | 22:52 |
| LjL | Amaranth: just about every day i think i should make an alias and then i don't | 22:52 |
| LjL | alright, i've overcome laziness | 22:53 |
| LjL | now i just have to remember i have it | 22:53 |
| Seeker` | LjL: We are trying to get it hosted officially | 22:59 |
| LjL | Seeker`, that doesn't change anything with respect to cloaking | 22:59 |
| Seeker` | LjL: And onto a better server - I dont have access to the server it is on atm, and the person that does has disappeared | 22:59 |
| LjL | hmm | 23:00 |
| LjL | Seeker`: the code *is* available? | 23:00 |
| Seeker` | LjL: Yes | 23:01 |
| ryanakca | Seeker`: worst comes to worst, I can give you an account on my server (same one than runs Quizbuntu)... | 23:05 |
| ryanakca | s/than/that/ | 23:05 |
| Seeker` | LjL: http://tensixtyone.com/svn/mootbot/ | 23:05 |
| Seeker` | I have an account on the server, I just have never used it, and therefore dont remember the password | 23:06 |
| PriceChild | ssh keys ftw | 23:09 |
| Seeker` | PriceChild: I forget the passcodes for them too :P | 23:09 |
| * PriceChild headdesks | 23:09 | |
| * Pici facepalms | 23:30 | |
| * LjL handclaps | 23:33 | |
| * jussi01 wanders off to find a bed... | 23:37 | |
| Pici | bye | 23:37 |
| jussi01 | night | 23:37 |
| * Seeker` facedesks | 23:42 | |
| * nickrud doesn't feel so bad | 23:49 | |
| * mneptok feels slippery | 23:49 | |
| * nickrud sidles away from mneptok | 23:49 | |
| mneptok | imagine a walrus, drenched in baby oil. | 23:50 |
| * jussi01 pukes, then really goes to bed | 23:50 | |
| mneptok | you know, as tasty as that sounds, i'll just eat a baby. | 23:50 |
| nickrud | thank you, no .-) | 23:50 |
| mneptok | http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_01/polar020308DM_800x530.jpg | 23:50 |
| nickrud | gah. | 23:51 |
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