[00:00] <Stormx2`> They were seperate conversations. I'd come into the channel and not even read that.
[00:00] <Stormx2`> I was commenting on XKCD. It was hardly about oral sex or something.
[00:00] <ompaul> you were asked not to continue - then you debated the call
[00:00] <ompaul> bad idea
[00:00] <ompaul> if a call is made it usually has good reason with it
[00:00] <ompaul> so leave it to the ops please
[00:01] <Stormx2`> good idea, I don't see how anyone can justify stiffling reasonable debate. Sorry I started it in the wrong channel but even so :/
[00:01] <nalioth> Stormx2`: Ubuntu isn't here for "debate" of any kind
[00:02] <nalioth> we provide #ubuntu-offtopic as a channel to discuss non help stuff
[00:02] <Stormx2`> I'm well aware you do so.
[00:02] <ompaul> Stormx2`, so ehh why you here?
[00:03] <Stormx2`> A couple of reasons:
[00:03]  * ompaul waits for a moment
[00:04] <Stormx2`> 1) To contest that "blows" does any damage to anyone in the channel 2) To complain that I was kicked AND banned because I debated the decision. I would have come in here or brought it to PM if I though that was what you wanted.
[00:04] <ompaul> 2) now you know
[00:04] <ompaul> 1) it was a context even if you were not aware of it
[00:04] <Stormx2`> But was that the best way of telling me? With a ban?
[00:04] <ompaul> 0) now lets get on with it
[00:05] <mneptok> Stormx2`: i gave you *plenty* of opportunity to back off and let the subject drop.
[00:05] <ompaul> the fact is you were asked to back off
[00:05] <Stormx2`> Okay, final thing. Where do you draw the line on !ohmy. I mean "blows" is pretty low down on the vulgar scale but things are lower. You must draw it somewhere.
[00:05] <ompaul> no
[00:05] <ompaul> there is no line - only context and common sense
[00:05] <ompaul> and when I say that it means that the line position may change given conditions
[00:06] <LjL> Stormx2`, no, there are many lines that just cannot arbitrarily be drawn no matter how hard we'd try. and hey, if there *were* a way to draw such lines with inequivocable clearness, we'd just have a bot instead of ops.
[00:06] <Stormx2`> Bots can't understand context.
[00:06]  * mneptok is actually ~3500 lines of Python
[00:06] <LjL> Stormx2`: and indeed we have ops.
[00:06] <mneptok> Stormx2`: and neither can people who, by their own admission, just joined a channel
[00:06] <LjL> mneptok: that's your problem, the language.
[00:07] <Stormx2`> mneptok, wait, what?
[00:07] <Stormx2`> I understand the context of my own remarks, thanks very much.
[00:07] <Stormx2`> o.O
[00:07] <Stormx2`> When I joined doesn't come into that.
[00:08] <Stormx2`> Anyway
[00:08]  * nickrud thinks mneptok needs an upgrade
[00:08] <Stormx2`> Whatever. I still thing it's very knitpicky.
[00:08] <Stormx2`> But point taken, I'll contest things in here.
[00:08] <Stormx2`> You guys do a good job 99.9% of the time :)
[00:08] <ompaul> Stormx2`, your context is not in debate here - as for knitpicking when you point one finger several others point back in your direction 
[00:08] <ompaul> Stormx2`, please drop it now
[00:09] <Stormx2`> ompaul: I was about to. Those were my closing remarks o.O
[00:09] <ompaul> with that I point to the topic of this channel and bit you a good day
[00:09] <Stormx2`> Kay, cya
[00:09] <ompaul> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[00:10] <ompaul> the full moon is out :)
[00:10] <nickrud> irc op is punishment indeed
[00:11]  * ompaul whips self to remind self
[00:43] <nalioth> do we have a macedonian language channel?
[02:02] <mneptok> !mk
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <ubotu> SNuxoll called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (CSlime)
[03:15] <nalioth> a troll.
[03:15] <nalioth> pure and unadulterated.
[03:28] <mneptok> aye
[03:28] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:28] <Hobbsee> and -uncensored is wondering why he got klined
[03:32] <nalioth> Hobbsee: oh?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> nalioth: aren't you there?
[03:33] <nalioth> yes, in another shell
[03:34] <nalioth> had to go look at it
[03:34] <nalioth> you are aware of why, right?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> trolling, apparently.  i'm not in -offtopic
[03:35] <nalioth> ahh, you missed it.
[03:35] <nalioth> it was classic
[03:36] <Hobbsee>  /query me with it?
[04:02] <mneptok> ugh.
[04:03] <mneptok> plz eat DrDerek kthxbai
[06:19] <PriceChild> Its an ompaul!
[06:20] <ompaul> PriceChild, 10 points for a correct answer, and your next question is what time is it?
[06:26] <PriceChild> Its "too early" o'clock
[06:26] <nalioth> not for trolls
[06:26] <nalioth> unfortunately
[06:27] <PriceChild> Uu a nalioth too.
[06:27] <ompaul> PriceChild, did not not feel the network quake
[06:27] <PriceChild> ompaul: hmm?
[06:28] <ompaul> PriceChild, me n mr n at the same time
[06:29] <PriceChild> ahh
[06:29] <PriceChild> scary stuff
[06:31]  * PriceChild checks out nin
[06:31] <nalioth> PriceChild: ghosts.nin.com
[06:31] <ompaul> its a bit early for that
[06:31] <PriceChild> nalioth: yup already got it :)
[06:31] <PriceChild> thanks
[07:59] <ubotu> credible called the ops in #ubuntu (basketball589)
[08:56] <jussi01> Morning lads and ladies
[09:35] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, i'm pretty sure there'll be few people lining up to report drderek missing if he were to meet such circumstances... ie... kick him if he gets even stupider
[09:35] <Amaranth> indeed
[12:33] <AndrewB> Am I not right in guessing that ubotu changed owners recently?
[12:35] <AndrewB> !User list --capability=owner
[12:35] <AndrewB> ubotu: User list --capability=owner
[12:35] <AndrewB> =/
[12:36] <AndrewB> oh it is Seveas still
[13:26] <Mez> !botabuse | AndrewB :P
[13:26] <ubotu> AndrewB :P: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:26] <Pici> Tsk tsk
[13:27] <Mez> Pici, ? me or AndrewB ?
[13:27] <Pici> AndrewB ;)
[13:27] <Mez> :P
[13:28] <AndrewB> heh
[13:29] <AndrewB> Mez: approve me on the GB translators dammit or you will be getting bot abuse! ;)
[13:30] <Mez> AndrewB, /msg
[14:14] <Pici> hmm http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/sortChannel/channel=%23ubuntu-offtopic
[14:15] <jussi01> hmmm, which bot?
[14:15] <Pici> dunno
[14:15] <Pici> Amaranth is looking... or is going to kick everyone
[14:17] <Amaranth> I fired off an email too
[14:18] <Amaranth> Mez: Get anything interesting?
[14:18] <Amaranth> it's probably stealthed like those other log bots
[14:18] <Pici> Besides an imprint of Seveas's shoe?
[14:19] <Amaranth> Seveas: Your script is messed up, you didn't drop the +o
[14:19] <Pici> Amaranth: He never does, I think its on purpose
[14:19] <Amaranth> Alright, lets go through a list here
[14:19] <Amaranth> aoupi
[14:19] <Amaranth> anyone know who that is?
[14:19] <Pici> yes
[14:19] <Mez> Amaranth, I might have
[14:19] <Amaranth> Aranel
[14:19] <Mez> -Eneloop- VERSION Orbit Technology v1.6.18
[14:19] <Amaranth> good enough for me
[14:20] <Mez> -Aranel- VERSION Seni Ilgilendirmeyen Bir Surum
[14:20] <Amaranth> weird nick, never heard of them, never seen them talk before
[14:20] <Mez> hmm I also got
 pissoff now or ill get you, i know who you are and whare you live
[14:20] <Amaranth> then again...
[14:20] <jussi01> lovely
[14:21] <Amaranth> eneloop joined again way too fast
[14:21] <Mez> !CoC | zenrox
[14:21] <ubotu> zenrox: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[14:21] <Mez> !CoC > zenrox
[14:21] <Amaranth> I don't know anyone but us that autorejoins on force part except us
[14:21] <Amaranth> That looked more like "oops, i left this channel, better get back in to log"
[14:22] <Amaranth> is #ubuntu logged too?
[14:22] <Pici> No
[14:22] <Pici> http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/status
[14:22] <Amaranth> Yes
[14:22] <Pici> yes?
[14:22] <Amaranth> http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/sortChannel/channel=%23ubuntu
[14:22] <Amaranth> and Eneloop is in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:22] <Pici> I'd see what users are in those freenode channels and cross reference them between each other
[14:23] <Amaranth> I'd banforward random people to here but then they might start logging here :P
[14:23] <LjL> arrr
[14:24] <Mez> Freenode Channels where bot is on: #zftalk #ubuntu-offtopic,#trac,#symfony,#adium,'madwifi,#debianfr
[14:24] <Amaranth> Mez: But they are apparently logging #ubuntu too
[14:24] <Pici> I think its a neat idea, but I don't remember anyone asking to do it.
[14:24] <Mez> yes, but Currently thats offline
[14:24] <Amaranth> or they were 24 hours ago
[14:24] <jussi01> #ubuntu #ubuntu-devel #ubuntu-fr #ubuntu-offtopic are all listed in the list at the bottom of the links page
[14:25] <Amaranth> damnit, i need a small channel :P
[14:25] <LjL> summarize for me please - we have a couple of bots (eneloop, aranel...? with different version replies?) logging links that are said on channels - correct?
[14:25] <Amaranth> We don't know who the bots are but yes, we have bot(s) in multiple channels logging links
[14:25] <Pici> LjL: http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/sortChannel/channel=%23ubuntu-offtopic 
[14:25] <jussi01> LjL: that sounds about right to me
[14:26] <LjL> Pici: yes i've clicked
[14:26] <Pici> LjL: ah, okay :)
[14:26] <Pici> Wasn't sure if you missed the link
[14:26] <LjL> so they've been there for ages
[14:26] <LjL> well, weeks
[14:26] <Amaranth> looks like 3 weeks to a month
[14:26] <LjL> "aranel" rings a bell somehow
[14:27] <PriceChild> Why don't we just figure out how long 10027 is and see who joined then
[14:27] <LjL> Pici: how long what is?
[14:27] <LjL> err, price
[14:27] <PriceChild> Well t hat page infers they've been online 10027 seconds...?
[14:27] <LjL> they have?
[14:28] <LjL> well
[14:28] <LjL> tell you in a moment
[14:28] <PriceChild> doesn't it?
[14:28] <Amaranth> that's almost 3 hours
[14:28] <PriceChild> http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/status
[14:28] <LjL> yeah indeed that's nothing
[14:28] <PriceChild> Amaranth: pardon?
[14:28] <PriceChild> LjL: pardon?
[14:28] <Amaranth> --> sen3 (n=sen@193.190.63.142) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:28] <Amaranth> --> benzss (n=huhu@5ac0fb33.bb.sky.com) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:28] <Amaranth> <-- tonyyarusso has quit (Nick collision from services.)
[14:28] <Amaranth> --> tonyyarusso (n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:28] <Amaranth> --> neeto (n=chatzill@207.62.165.156) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic

[14:29] <Amaranth> so it'd be sen3, benzss, tonyyarusso, or neeto :P
[14:29] <LjL> 12:42:37 03/04/08
[14:29] <LjL> is 10027 seconds ago
[14:29] <LjL> CET
[14:30] <Amaranth> sen3 is not there
[14:30] <Amaranth> benzss is in too many channels that don't fit
[14:30] <jussi01> Amaranth: not tonyyarusso hehe
[14:30] <Amaranth> jussi01: i know :P
[14:30] <jussi01> :P
[14:31] <Amaranth> and neeto is not there
[14:31] <Amaranth> so that number either isn't seconds or doesn't mean anything
[14:31] <PriceChild> are you sure? I calculate it being nearer 11:40 utc, DOOM_NX
[14:32] <Amaranth> ah, right, i was a few minutes off
[14:32] <LjL> PriceChild: i checked with 10027, course it's changed now...
[14:32] <Amaranth> stupid rounding
[14:32] <LjL> 11:39:35 03/04/08 UTC
[14:33] <Amaranth> DOOM_NX is in channels that aren't being logged
[14:33] <PriceChild> yup
[14:33] <PriceChild> He's not a bot.
[14:33] <Mez> The status page also says that he's in #debianfr
[14:34] <Amaranth> this is so frustrating
[14:34] <Mez> I've whoised all in there cept the ops, and none of them are in -offtopic
[14:34] <Amaranth> so it's multiple bots then
[14:34] <LjL> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58372/ this is for -ot
[14:35] <Mez> no ops are in there either
[14:35] <Amaranth> gah, why is debian so broken
[14:36] <LjL> they *aren't* (afawk) in any channels that aren't listed at http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/status though, are they?
[14:37] <Amaranth> Alright, I don't have time for this
[14:37]  * Amaranth goes back to hating debian for making his work harder
[14:37] <Mez> They're not in some of the channels eitehr....
[14:37] <Pici> hmm
[14:37] <Mez> (#scrutator I've looked on lango, efnet, they're not there
[14:38] <jussi01> I suspect there is more than one bot, and they have different bots in deifferent channels correct?
[14:38] <Pici> I was about to say it was 'beasty' but hes not in all of the freenode channels
[14:38] <LjL> jussi01: yes
[14:38] <LjL> #ubuntu is offline now
[14:39] <Amaranth> well that rules eneloop out
[14:39] <LjL> the entire freenode is offline now
[14:40] <Pici> hm
[14:40] <LjL> #symfony: [15:40:02] --> Albah has joined this channel (n=Albah@213.135.233.70).
[14:40] <Mez> do we have anyone matching 88.191.48.117
[14:40] <LjL> /whois albah
[14:40] <Myrtti> whazzup
[14:40] <Pici> seems likely
[14:40] <LjL> Pici: not likely, it's it
[14:40] <Pici> Myrtti: hi! we're playing detective today
[14:40] <Myrtti> cool
[14:40] <PriceChild> Mez: going through a load to see
[14:41] <Amaranth> Well that solves that
[14:41] <Mez> Albah is the name that was given to a bot ...
[14:41] <LjL> it *says* the name of the bot on the site :)
[14:41] <Mez> (it mentions albah on the site)
[14:41] <Pici> I must have mispelled it when I did the whois the first time
[14:41] <Mez> It's in #u-t now too
[14:41] <Mez> which I didnt see before
[14:42] <Amaranth> u-t?
[14:42] <Mez> * [Albah] #ubuntu-offtopic #python.de #symfony #madwifi #zftalk #ruby #adium #seagull 
[14:42] <Mez> u-ot
[14:42] <Amaranth> not anymore
[14:42] <Mez> looks like it was just rebooted too :D
[14:42] <Mez> 97s online
[14:43] <LjL> yeah it just joined
[14:43] <Amaranth> Banned from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <Mez> where's .lu ?
[14:44] <jussi01> lithuania?
[14:44] <Mez> They've just launched another few bots too..
[14:45] <LjL> luxemburg
[14:45] <Amaranth> Luxumbourg?
[14:45] <Amaranth> i never spell that right
[14:45] <LjL> me neither
[14:45] <Mez> * [RedDwarf] (~RedDwarf@lango-5CD71EA1.lo2k.net): None
[14:45] <Mez> * [RedDwarf] #scrutator 
[14:45] <Pici> .lu  Luxembourg
[14:45] <Mez> thats a masked address on another server for another bot
[14:46] <LjL> Mez: on another network right?
[14:46] <Mez> LjL - yeah
[14:46] <Mez> and 
[14:46] <Mez> * [scrutator] (~scrutator@oil-ocean.lo2k.net): None
[14:46] <LjL> well, no *.lo2k.net on freenode
[14:47] <Mez> LjL, we cant see that ...
[14:47] <Mez> I dont think
[14:47] <Pici> And concidering the one bot isnt set +s (?) I dont think the others would be
[14:47] <LjL> Mez: well, yeah if they are +i we can't, but given i'm in all channels they claim to monitor, i should see them
[14:48] <LjL> Pici: +i
[14:48] <LjL> Pici: +s is for channels
[14:48] <Mez> Dave2, fancy checking if there are any annoying lil bleeders from that mask ?
[14:48] <Pici> LjL: Hence the question mark :)
[14:49] <jussi01> Pici: how did you come across that site in the first place?
[14:49] <Mez> I swear I saw Dave2 around a second ago
[14:50] <Pici> jussi01: magnetron pasted it in #u-ot, I think he was googling for himself
[14:50] <jussi01> ahh, ok then
[14:50] <LjL> Pici: you question, i answer
[14:51]  * Mez may have also found some more bots
[14:53] <Dave2> I see nothing related. And why does my xchat keep hanging.
[14:53] <Mez> Dave2, cause xchat sucks ?
 Albah: Are you a bot?
 Amaranth: You do not have permission to access this page when the sun and moon and stars are you.
[14:55] <Mez> LMAO I didn't notice that
[14:55] <jussi01> hehe
[14:57] <Mez> * scrutator (~scrutator@oil-ocean.lo2k.net) has joined #scrutator <-- FQDN (unmasked) from efnet
[14:59] <LjL> Dave2, can you make me contact for #ubuntu-lt please?
[15:07] <Mez> Dave2 is the shineh
[15:07] <LjL> noticed...
[15:07] <LjL> gary, please?
[15:07] <Gary> LjL: canna do that yet
[15:07] <Gary> Dave2 should, or better still ask nalioth 
[15:07] <LjL> both unavailable it seems
[15:07]  * Mez slaps Dave2 
[15:07] <Dave2> ow
[15:08] <LjL> eh... you were marked away now
[15:08] <Mez> LjL, hehe - but he's also chatting in another channel ;0
[15:08] <Mez> Dave2, fancy a drink later?
[15:08] <Mez> I think you owe me one from last time ;)
[15:08] <Dave2> Hah, I have far too much work to get done and 10 days to get it done in
[15:10] <Dave2> LjL, want me to drop the channel and op you so you can register?
[15:10] <Dave2> with a fresh channel setup
[15:10] <LjL> Dave2: same for me
[15:10] <Gary> LjL: is that a L for -lt  and if so where is lt?
[15:10] <Dave2> Lithuania
[15:10] <Gary> oh, d'oh
[15:11] <LjL> Dave2: thanks
[15:11] <Dave2> I'll take that as a yes :P
[15:11] <Gary> should have known that, what with all the broken lt cars in our carpark (motorway rescue)
[15:11] <Mez> Dave2, So that's a no then ?
[15:11] <Dave2> ?
 Dave2, fancy a drink later?
 I think you owe me one from last time ;)
 Hah, I have far too much work to get done and 10 days to get it done in
[15:12] <Dave2> ah, yes, I really need to get this done. no idea how I'm going to \o/
[15:12] <Mez> so no beer ? :(
[15:12] <Dave2> indeed
[15:13] <Mez> meh
[15:13] <jussi01> Mez: Ill shout you 2 beers if you make it to my local :P
[15:13] <Mez> jussi01, which is wher E?
[15:14] <jussi01> Mez: Oulu, Finland :P
[15:14] <Mez> bit far from me
[15:15] <jussi01> yeah, figures...
[15:15] <jussi01> you might not like the weather either
[15:15] <Mez> It's actually vaguely sunny here
[15:16] <jussi01> we have a nice -9 here :) http://weather.willab.fi/weather.html
[15:16] <jussi01> that weather station is about 1km from my house :D
[15:16] <Daviey> we have 8-9 here (or that is what my car said)
[15:17] <Daviey> "+"
[15:17] <jussi01> hehe
[15:17]  * jussi01 is ~200kms from te arctic circle
[15:20] <Mez> 8ᴼ here
[15:24] <Mez> ⚠
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, I see -9 and wonder what scale that is on..  you and I will both have weather in the high 60's today
[15:47] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: celsius
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Is there a multiplier for that.. :)
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> 71 f here yesterday
[15:48] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: google has a good converter
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> 21.6 c to you
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> your -9 is our 15
[15:49] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: 16to you
[15:49] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: heh. Southern Cal has some advantages
[15:51] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: Id love 21 degrees mmmm... warmth
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Our house was not heated until this year..... Took it out 15 years ago and never got around to putting one in.
[15:52] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: I die with out heating
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> I can believe that. To us it was not a big deal... Occasionally get up in the am and bake something to warm the house
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> take care, time for me to have breakfast and do some exercises.
[16:47] <LjL> is it just me or is there amazingly little activity in #ubuntu today
[16:48] <Amaranth> yeah, it's weird
[16:48] <Amaranth> it was busier than this overnight (US)
[16:48] <Amaranth> i suppose i could blame politics
[16:49] <Amaranth> but that's only a couple states
[16:49] <Seeker`> It does seem quite dead
[16:50] <Seeker`> I'm sure I could go and start spamming stuff if you are bored :P
[16:50] <Pici> It was busy this morning.
[16:52] <no0tic> probably it's the right time for my question :)
[16:55] <nalioth> Seeker`: you and nickserv fighting again?
[16:58] <Seeker`> nalioth: yup
[16:58] <Seeker`> nalioth: better?
[16:58] <Pici> yay
[17:07] <Mez> Question: What should we do if a user responds with a threatening message to a CTCP version?
[17:07] <Mez> /whois zenrox
[17:07] <Mez> /ctcp zenrox version
[17:08] <nalioth> 1204650512 11:08 CTCP VERSION reply from zenrox: xchat 2.8.4 Ubuntu             ??
[17:09] <nalioth> i see
[17:09] <Mez> nalioth, did you not get the message aswell?
[17:09] <nalioth> yes, it was up in the high numbers
[17:10] <Mez> ah, irssi ;)
[17:11] <nalioth> i've requested he change it
[17:11] <Mez> :)
[18:16] <Pici> Gah. What is with the bad advice today.
[18:23] <jdong> Pici: have you checked the forums?
[18:23]  * Pici gives up, goes to lunch
[20:33] <Seveas> !ping
[20:33] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[21:04] <Amaranth> Hey, I heard back from the logging guy
[21:04] <Amaranth> He says the bots are run by other people that just plug into his API
[21:04] <Amaranth> 'If you don't want this bot on your channel, please put channel in private. If channel is in "public", I presume logging is authorised.'
[21:04] <Amaranth> then he said to just ban it
[21:04] <Amaranth> which we did :D
[21:06] <nalioth> Amaranth: and klined
[21:12] <nalioth> can any of you power users tell me why my torrents and irc work fine but my web browsers and email client just sit and spin?
[21:20] <Amaranth> nalioth: DNS?
[21:21] <nalioth> Amaranth: how are the torrents finding their way?
[21:21] <PriceChild> dht?
[21:21] <tritium> Who grants ubuntu/member hostmasks?  Seveas?
[21:21] <Amaranth> nalioth: Peer Exchange is IP based
[21:21] <nalioth> tritium: the council
[21:21] <PriceChild> tritium: me, nal, lj.l or elky
[21:22] <tritium> PriceChild: ah, okay.  We have a newly-approved member in our LoCo that needs a hostmask.
[21:22] <PriceChild> tritium: send him in once he's followed http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup to link two nicks and set an email :)
[21:23] <tritium> PriceChild: thanks.  gcleric did you see that?
[21:23] <PriceChild> gcleric: please follow http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup to link two nicknames and set an email.
[21:23] <PriceChild> gcleric: Could I also have your launchpad url./
[21:23] <tritium> Thanks for your help, PriceChild.
[21:23] <nalioth> Amaranth: i can ping www.yahoo.com, too
[21:24] <nalioth> if it's DNS, it's not systemic
[21:24] <gcleric> PriceChild: https://launchpad.net/~grammatoncleric
[21:24] <nalioth> gcleric: please identify to services
[21:24] <tritium> PriceChild: I can provide you a link to the membership announcement on UWN, if you need.
[21:24] <gcleric> PriceChild: and I've registered my nick to gcleric
[21:25] <PriceChild> gcleric: equilibrium?
[21:25] <nalioth> PriceChild: of course
[21:25] <gcleric> yup...
[21:25] <gcleric> =)
[21:25] <PriceChild> gcleric: please identify to nickserv.
[21:25] <nalioth> gcleric: we cannot proceed until you're identified
[21:26] <gcleric>  /msg nickserv link gcleric wanqui-1
[21:27] <PriceChild> gcleric: please identify to services and change your password immediately.
[21:27] <tritium> remove leading space
[21:27] <PriceChild> gcleric: /msg nickserv set password <newpassword>
[21:27] <nalioth> gcleric: you cant link or do anything with your nickserv account until you identify to it
[21:27] <nalioth> you guys are putting the horse before the cart
[21:27] <nalioth> he needs to identify to nickserv
[21:29] <PriceChild> gcleric: yay you're identified. Please change your password immediately if you haven't already?
[21:30] <gcleric> done/
[21:30] <gcleric> sorry for taking so long I'm at work.
[21:31] <PriceChild> gcleric: so you've got a linked nickname and email set?
[21:31] <gcleric> yes, I believe so..
[21:34] <PriceChild> gcleric: ok cool, one moment while I find a staffer to apply the cloak :)
[21:34] <gcleric> thanks.
[21:34] <tritium> Many thanks, PriceChild, nalioth.
[21:35] <tritium> gcleric: do you know who to talk to for an @ubuntu.com email addy?
[21:35] <PriceChild> tritium: they are set up automanually, from days to a week or so.
[21:35] <PriceChild> I 'think' its elmo that takes care of them.
[21:35] <tritium> Ah, so he may already have it.  Thanks for the info.
[21:36] <gcleric> thanks so much.. =)
[21:36] <tritium> gcleric: try sending a test email to gcleric@ubuntu.com
[21:36] <PriceChild> tritium: gcleric: you will get a grammatoncleric@ubuntu.com address as that is your launchpad id.
[21:36] <tritium> ah, right, not gcleric
[21:37] <gcleric> =)
[21:37] <gcleric> testing now/
[21:39] <gcleric> does not appear to be setup yet.
[21:42] <gcleric> PriceChild: thanks for the help. =)
[21:45] <PriceChild> gcleric: no problem, please stick around until we get the cloak turned on
[21:48] <PriceChild> gcleric: You do not have a linked nick.
[21:49] <PriceChild> gcleric: please follow http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup to setup a linked nick, ask if you need help with something.
[21:49] <tritium> PriceChild: I think he got called off to put out some fire at work.  He'll return shortly, hopefully.
[21:51] <PriceChild> tritium: An original excuse, will let him off this time.
[21:53] <tritium> :)
[21:53] <tritium> I'll return later as well...
[21:57] <gcleric> I'm back...
[22:00] <gcleric> PriceChild: done..
[22:01] <magnetron> hi, i'm wondering what the policy about bringing logging bots to #ubuntu-* channels is.
[22:01] <PriceChild> gcleric: could you paste the output of "/msg nickserv info gcleric" into a pm with me so I can check?
[22:02] <Amaranth_> 'the only mail I receive is from "open source" channels which don't like to have his links spread around the world.'
[22:02] <PriceChild> magnetron: the bot logging urls was klined from the network.
[22:02] <Amaranth_> 'I will add an "if" in my API just for you. I don't want to spread links from a community so close minded.'
[22:02] <Amaranth_> this guy is fun
[22:03] <magnetron> PriceChild: it came back, it's here again with the name Jyaku and hostname men75-1-81-57-40-39.fbx.proxad.net
[22:03] <PriceChild> magnetron: gimme a moment
[22:04] <Amaranth> arg
[22:04] <PriceChild> magnetron: What channels?
[22:04] <Amaranth> I just told this guy to cut it out
[22:05] <magnetron> PriceChild: #trac #ubuntu #seagull #ubuntu-fr #adium #zftalk #ubuntu-devel #python.de 
[22:05] <PriceChild> (more than whois?)
[22:05] <PriceChild> Amaranth: the status page has been locked down to guests also.
[22:05] <Pici> heh
[22:05] <PriceChild> Amaranth: what was the trigger it responded to last time/
[22:06] <Amaranth> Jyaku: Are you a bot?
[22:06] <Amaranth> it just did it again in -devel
[22:07] <Amaranth> Apparently this guy wants to get his stuff completely banned from freenode...
[22:07] <Seeker`> whats going on?
[22:07] <magnetron> PriceChild: he was on the quakenet irc network too. i found the bot in a channel named #scrutator on that network. he was there, and the bot in that channel was named Mez with the real name Martin Meredith
[22:08] <magnetron> i would like to ask Mez if he knows anything about the bot
[22:08] <Pici> Are you sure that wasn't our Mez?
[22:09] <magnetron> Pici: it was the same nickname and real name, i was coming here to ask him about it.
[22:10] <Pici> magnetron: I believe its him, he was looking for the bots on at least efnet earlier today
[22:10] <magnetron> ok, so that's why
[22:11] <Amaranth> Yeah, he was tracking them across all the networks they were showing on their status page
[22:16] <LjL> http://scrutator.lo2k.net/Master/status now gives "not authorized"
[22:16] <LjL> i suspect they want us to stop knowing the bot's name...
[22:16] <Amaranth> I told they guy he'd better just give up on freenode completely
[22:17] <ubotu> In ubotu, ryanakca said: kde4support is Please join #kubuntu-kde4 for support. See !KDE4
[22:17] <LjL> argh, again
[22:17] <LjL> !kde4
[22:17] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:17] <LjL> i *really* don't see why we should have a separate "support" factoid
[22:17] <PriceChild> agreed
[22:18] <nalioth> Amaranth: you've talked to the logbotmaster?
[22:18] <Amaranth> Yeah, he has/had a contact email on the site
[22:18] <LjL> nalioth, an operator of some channel sent them an e-mail about it (who and which channel, i don't remember, but i can check logs i suppose)
[22:18] <Amaranth> LjL: that'd be me?
[22:19] <nalioth> Amaranth: ah.
[22:19] <LjL> Amaranth, not sure, i don't think i looked at the nickname at all
[22:19] <nalioth> well, until they contact the staff, we're gonna keep klining them
[22:19] <Amaranth> First email said bots were not allowed without permission from the irc council and asked him to remove them, then he got pretty upset/hostile
[22:19] <Amaranth> Then I told him he should keep them off freenode completely as they are being actively looked for and klined
[22:19] <PriceChild> mmmmm humbug
[22:20] <Pici> Amaranth: Was that about when the status page became unavailable?
[22:20] <Amaranth> I just sent that second mail like 5 minutes ago
[22:20] <Amaranth> He probably took down the status page around the time he started emailing me though
[22:21] <Amaranth> Would have been about an hour ago
[22:21] <ubotu> In ubotu, ryanakca said: kde4 is <alias> kde4support
[22:21] <Pici> ...
[22:21] <LjL> i don't... *think*... so
[22:21] <PriceChild> I'll message him.
[22:21] <Amaranth> other way around?
[22:21] <Pici> I was going to suggest inviting him here, but whatever.
[22:21] <LjL> Pici: what i did
[22:21] <PriceChild> Pici: seems like someone has :)
[22:23] <LjL> PriceChild: oh look just pm
[22:23] <PriceChild> k
[22:26] <Amaranth> i wish i had some way of being notified when someone joins #adium and/or #trac at the same time as #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:27] <Pici> I was wishing for a way of comparing /names between two channels earlier today
[22:27] <LjL> Pici: heh we think alike
[22:27] <LjL> Pici: except i was going to compare /who (hostmasks)
[22:27] <Amaranth> that too
[22:27] <PriceChild> He wants it because the "support in -kde4" bit is all the way at the end
[22:27] <Amaranth> you guys use irssi, write a little script
[22:27] <Seeker`> couldn't you write a script that calls diff?
[22:28] <LjL> PriceChild, things are most prominent when they're either at the beginning or at the end of a message.
[22:28] <LjL> Seeker`, that's one way i suppose, but i think it's more complicated than it sounds
[22:29] <Pici> I just ended up throwing them into a file and running sort/uniq on them.
[22:29] <PriceChild> So what shall I say?
[22:29] <Pici> Hi!
[22:29] <Pici> "Have you asked your question on the forums yet?"
[22:29] <PriceChild> :)
[22:29] <Amaranth> @lart Pici
[22:29] <Amaranth> aww, i thought it worked here too
[22:30] <Pici> As did I
[22:31] <LjL> uh, is he around again
[22:35] <ryanakca> LjL: oops, sorry, didn't see the invites in my status window
[22:36] <LjL> ryanakca: well no problem, price talked to you about it i think
[22:38] <ryanakca> LjL: mind if I add Quizbuntu to the list of bots with cloaks on IrcTeam/Cloaks ?
[22:38] <LjL> ryanakca: since it has a cloak... no
[22:39] <ryanakca> LjL: /whois ?
[22:39] <ryanakca> oh, sorry
[22:40] <ryanakca> my bad, I thought you had say "since it has no cloak" :)
[22:41] <ryanakca> and, the page shows "ubuntu/member/nickname" and "ubuntu/bot/$nickname", mind if I remove the $?
[22:41] <LjL> ryanakca: make it italic perhaps
[22:41] <LjL> i mean, both
[22:41] <ryanakca> ok
[22:44] <Seeker`> are you guys hunting / removing log bots?
[22:45] <Amaranth> yes
[22:45] <Amaranth> did you find one?
[22:47] <Seeker`> Amaranth: No, just wanted to make sure that Mootbot was safe :)
[22:47] <LjL> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot
[22:47] <LjL> it quite is
[22:48] <LjL> we aren't huting *our* bots
[22:49] <Seeker`> LjL: Just wanted to make sure noone got a bit overzealous
[22:50] <LjL> Seeker`: well, mootbot might definitely want an ubuntu/bot cloak
[22:50] <LjL> oh my
[22:51] <LjL> /whois ljl2
[22:51] <LjL> actually, /whois ljl2 ljl2
[22:51] <LjL> how on earth has that stayed connected
[22:52] <Amaranth> wow
[22:52] <Amaranth> also, you don't have /wii?
[22:52] <LjL> Amaranth: just about every day i think i should make an alias and then i don't
[22:53] <LjL> alright, i've overcome laziness
[22:53] <LjL> now i just have to remember i have it
[22:59] <Seeker`> LjL: We are trying to get it hosted officially
[22:59] <LjL> Seeker`, that doesn't change anything with respect to cloaking
[22:59] <Seeker`> LjL: And onto a better server - I dont have access to the server it is on atm, and the person that does has disappeared
[23:00] <LjL> hmm
[23:00] <LjL> Seeker`: the code *is* available?
[23:01] <Seeker`> LjL: Yes
[23:05] <ryanakca> Seeker`: worst comes to worst, I can give you an account on my server (same one than runs Quizbuntu)...
[23:05] <ryanakca> s/than/that/
[23:05] <Seeker`> LjL: http://tensixtyone.com/svn/mootbot/
[23:06] <Seeker`> I have an account on the server, I just have never used it, and therefore dont remember the password
[23:09] <PriceChild> ssh keys ftw
[23:09] <Seeker`> PriceChild: I forget the passcodes for them too :P
[23:09]  * PriceChild headdesks
[23:30]  * Pici facepalms
[23:33]  * LjL handclaps
[23:37]  * jussi01 wanders off to find a bed...
[23:37] <Pici> bye
[23:37] <jussi01> night
[23:42]  * Seeker` facedesks
[23:49]  * nickrud doesn't feel so bad
[23:49]  * mneptok feels slippery
[23:49]  * nickrud sidles away from mneptok 
[23:50] <mneptok> imagine a walrus, drenched in baby oil.
[23:50]  * jussi01 pukes, then really goes to bed
[23:50] <mneptok> you know, as tasty as that sounds, i'll just eat a baby.
[23:50] <nickrud> thank you, no .-)
[23:50] <mneptok> http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_01/polar020308DM_800x530.jpg
[23:51] <nickrud> gah.