[00:29] I am presently stumped by insane network configs. [00:42] keescook: you aren't the only one === c_schmitz is now known as c_schmitz|away [00:42] * mralphabet mocks the network guy, "Let's VLAN *EVERYTHING!* [00:42] " [00:42] * keescook hides in shame [00:43] my home network has like, 6 VLANs. ;) however, today's problem is related to hibernation on my laptop, it seems [00:44] but it's stupid vlan's . . . not for security or to reduce broadcasts / other traffic, he vlans 3 class c subnets together [00:44] ieeeee [00:44] I understand the point of it, but not there! anyway, hibernation sucks ;) [00:45] why are you vlaning /24's? o_0 [00:45] Bambi_BOFH: EXACTLY! [00:47] * Bambi_BOFH wonders wether he should worry or simply flee [00:48] it drives me crazy [00:49] keescook: 2 words....carrier pigeon [00:49] sneaker net > carrier pigeon [00:50] mralphabet: try doing an interstate link with sneakernet [00:50] hey, there isn't enough bandwidth to cover a uhaul full of backup tapes [00:50] uhaul? [00:51] http://thewifeslife.files.wordpress.com/2006/03/uhaul.jpg [00:52] ah right. a truck with a fancy name :p [00:52] yes [00:53] apologies to those overseas [00:53] hehe. no worries [00:55] * Bambi_BOFH decends into the very depths of hell itself... using emacs *dramatic chord* [00:55] omg [00:57] * Bambi_BOFH has a reference guide, and not a clue, so this could be ... interesting. [00:58] no other alternative? . . . ed? [01:00] vims there, but i need to learn emacs. and perl. so i'm combining the two into one very unproductive but educational day (and getting paid for it) [01:03] well . . . that counts as a +1 [01:08] uhoh . .. fsck.ext3 is going crazy [01:09] :| [01:10] Block bitmap for group 2263 is not in group. (block 0) [01:10] Relocate? [01:11] * mralphabet orders a drive [01:14] how do you copy partition sizes from driveA to driveB? [01:29] hello.. how to install pear in ubuntu gutsy? [01:29] php-pear - PEAR - PHP Extension and Application Repository [01:29] that? [01:30] yeah.. since my joomla is looking for it? [01:30] sudo apt-get install php-pear [01:30] I would assume [01:31] I got this error actually.. [01:32] Warning: require_once(/var/www/joomla/editor/editor.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/joomla/index2.php on line 96 [01:32] uhh, okay [01:32] Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/var/www/joomla/editor/editor.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/joomla/index2.php on line 96 [01:33] that's pear, right? [01:35] the first error has nothing to do with pear, as far as i can tell . . . [01:36] neither does the second [01:37] thanks kgoetz! welcome back.. [01:37] so.. any idea what it is all about? [01:38] I tried actually sudo apt-get install php-pear as recommended by mralphabet... but the says that it has already its latest version [01:38] it cant open /var/www/joomla/editor/editor.php [01:38] which means its probably not in the path listed .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear [01:38] in the file /var/www/joomla/index2.php [01:39] what do you mean with that? which means its probably not in the path listed .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear [01:40] the file editor.php is not in either . /usr/share/php or /usr/share/pear [01:41] afk. lunch time [01:44] or in /var/www/joomla/editor/ [02:58] anyone know of a tutorial/howto for clustering with redhat-cluster-suite on ubuntu? [02:58] as it's the only cluster suite in 'main', it's surprisingly difficult to find tutorials [03:46] Hello....I currently have a LAMP server in place and I am having issues running Jabber and sendmail on the same machine. Is there a little trick that I am missing? [03:47] what sort of issues? [03:48] Well I can get when I install sendmail it works pefectly. Then once I install Jabber, I can not get any email out of the server.... [03:49] any errors? [03:49] I am using dotproject on the server and like to send emails out regarding status, and then have Jabber in place as a real time collabritive communication point in the server [03:49] Just says "Failed to Send" [03:49] what about your mail logs? [03:50] that is the funny thing the mail logs are not reporting any problems. [03:50] When I set up sendmail I added a path to IPtables to route the email to the exchange server. [03:52] basically I am just using the smtp functions to send out the updates.... [03:52] why in iptables? [03:54] well until I specified the path, and I would have to look at the server to get the exact information, I could not get any mail sent. This is a stand alone smtp box in network that contains an exchange server.... [03:54] the idea was that basically it would just forward the email to the exchange server for routing... [03:55] why dont you setup the mail server to send to exchange so it happens properly? [03:56] Tried using a smart relay to do that, and it failed....It could be that I set it up wrong.......which would explain my problems now... [03:57] s/smart relaty/smarthost/ ? [03:57] i dont have any postfix systems setup with smarthosts, so i dont know how easy it is to do (i hate postfix) [03:58] everything i have read on getting sendmail to work with exchange 2003 says to setup a smarthost....... [03:59] thats what i'd expect it to say [03:59] i think it might only apply if the exchange server is an smtp server, which in this case it is not.... [03:59] ah. what is it in this case? [04:00] well, technically i have no smtp server to speak off......exchange is installed as Mail Transport (MTA-2) [04:01] * kgoetz has no idea what that means for us [04:02] basically as I understand it ( I did not setup the exchange server) the alternative to smtp apparently is MTA at least that is what i have come to understand.... [04:03] this is what happens when you put a Linux person in an Microsoft environment [04:11] sounds pretty MSy to me [04:53] It's a pretty standard setup for postfix and exchange both to stick a postfix box between the big bad internet and exchange. [04:57] mm. but in that case postfix is the smarthost, not exchange [04:59] Sorry. That's what I though we were talking about. The reverse would be perverse. [05:40] * lamont notes that the most common mistake with postfix relayhosts is to not put [] around the hostname, and therefore use the MX RRs for the named host for relays, rather than the A RR for the smarthost... [05:58] i try to install apache&php with deb, but install mysql with source, can i connect php with this mysql ? [06:26] if i dont have a /proc/acpi/ does it mean the server hardware doestn support it? i'd like to know how hot the CPUs in this system are [06:29] err, good question, what hardware is it? [06:30] could be a bios issue [06:32] dual P3, generic 1RU server, award or ami bios (i dont remember which) [06:33] I'd boot to the bios and check for any setttings there first and to see what rev of the bios it is [06:34] maybe consider installing lm-sensors and letting it run through to see what it finds as well [06:34] that should at least tell you what the mobo supports [06:34] lm-sensors is probably a good idea [06:35] probably, although I've been known to have worse ones ;) [06:35] usually after 10 or 12 beers :) [06:36] * kgoetz will have to leave l-s until tomorrow - just started a memtest on the system [06:36] * faulkes- nods [06:37] well, I'm just hoping this laptop lasts until the new one arrives [06:37] got an ETA for the new one? [06:37] kb dead, dvd dead, hdd is making squelching sounds, I've had it running continuously for almost 5 years now [06:37] 7 days or so [06:37] a laptop? wow. [06:38] dell 600m, when I bought it, it was the almost top of the line thing dell sold [06:38] Bah. New hardware. [06:38] hehe [06:39] so, I have a 1720 on order [06:39] My test machine is a L400 (circa 2001). It was just retired from being my main laptop 4 months ago. [06:39] * faulkes- will be glad for 1900x1200 real estate [06:39] problem with the server i'm trying to setup is it runs perfectly in bios at a stable temp, but locks in a few minutes of booting. not sure if its the ubuntu snapshot or hardware doing it though [06:39] not sure if I'd call that a heat issue [06:40] point a fan at it and keep it cool [06:41] it was running (afaik) stable under the old ubuntu release it had -0 7.04 perhaps. tomorrow is its 'shake down' day [07:05] i want try install apache+php with deb (ubuntu), but mysql install with source.. it posible ? [07:07] possible? yes, at least as far as I know, so long as you satisfy the dependencies if you expect php to connect to mysql [07:08] as for a detailed decscription of how to do it? that is beyond the scope of what I could offer help for [07:08] ok, in my phpinfo() mysql and mysqli say's that them connect mysql through sockect where /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock [07:09] but previous installation mysql.sock set up in /usr/local/mysql/tmp/mysql.sock [07:09] where ishould change.. [07:09] in php setting or mysql.sock [07:10] Exfil: Hello. Do I know you? [07:12] mysql.sock is a socket, if mysql is configured to put it in /usr/local/mysql/tmp then I would change php.ini to look for it there [07:13] it's ok to change mysql.sock in php.ini ? [07:13] that is not a guarrantee it will work though, as I said, beyond the level of help I can offer [07:13] just comment out the line and below it add in your new one, restart apache, see if it works [07:13] if it doesn't work, change it back [07:14] php.ini is just a config file [07:14] hi soren [07:14] 'morning, faulkes-. [07:14] ok i will try [07:15] yes, I suppose it is that now [07:15] * faulkes- really should get to bed [07:55] ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnduxTalk to see. [07:55] ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnduxTalk to see. [07:55] ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnduxTalk to see. 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[08:00] hmm, nobody with ops around? i vote for a ban [08:06] Hi [08:11] does dapper not use /etc/pam_ldap.conf? === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:21] moin [08:22] hi [08:23] kthxbye [08:24] Er.. [08:24] wtf.. [08:26] Well, I guess -srn is fine. === nijaba[away] is now known as nijaba [08:38] morning [08:39] i still dont understand the way of authentification when using a ldap backend :-/ [08:39] When i log in via ssh the first module it uses is pam, right? [08:39] pam_ldap to be precise. [08:40] correct? [08:43] i wonder how the authentification works with the pam_ldap.conf (http://pastebin.ca/927428) [08:43] how does it know where to look for the user? [08:44] soren: you should set +n === ewook_ is now known as ewook [08:53] spiekey, depends what modules you set it to ue [08:55] auth sufficient pam_ldap.so [08:55] so i use pam_ldap first. [08:56] but i do not understand how it knows where to compare the password hashes [08:56] in "/etc/pam_ldap.conf" it know what kind of hash it uses. [08:57] knows [08:57] spiekey, heres where i have ldap lines: [08:57] /etc/pam.d/common-account:account sufficient /lib/security/pam_ldap.so [08:57] /etc/pam.d/common-auth:auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_ldap.so [08:57] /etc/pam.d/common-password:password required /lib/security/pam_ldap.so [08:57] and those files are sourced where relevent by (eg) ssh/login [08:57] yes. That makes sense. [08:57] and /etc/pam_ldap.conf is the config file for pam_ldap.so [08:58] correct? [08:59] yes, iirc [09:00] * Kamping_Kaiser grins. heres a comment i have from in that file: # here because "lamont said" [09:02] okay. So how does pam_ldap now know where to find the user? [09:02] i dont follow [09:03] in orde to authenticate, you have to find the hash of a User and compare it against the password hash that was typed in. correct? [09:03] hash of a user? password hash? [09:04] erm... "hash of a user" = Password hash of a user [09:05] correct enough, aiui [09:05] how does pam_ldap find my user in the database then? In order to compare the password hashes? [09:06] do you know what i mean? [09:06] look in /etc/pam_ldap.conf [09:06] there i have "base dc=example,dc=net" and "rootbinddn cn=manager,dc=example,dc=net" [09:06] 'all that stuff' is how you configure it. [09:07] eg pam_login_attribute [09:07] and pam_password [09:07] how does it know my users are in ou=Users,dc=example,dc=net ? [09:07] magic [09:07] ^^ [09:07] it seems like it [09:09] this is my whole pam_ldap.conf: http://pastebin.ca/927442 [09:10] spiekey, which one? [09:12] oh, pam_ldap.conf [09:12] spiekey, what version of ubuntu are you running? [09:12] Dapper [09:12] * spiekey likes LTS [09:13] * Kamping_Kaiser hasnt done ldap on dapper recently [09:13] and my notes are on my work laptop atm :| [09:14] hmm...what a shame :-/ [09:15] does it not use nss to map username <-> uid first? [09:15] * spiekey is confused [09:16] It looks like /etc/libnss-ldap.conf is the same as /etc/pam_ldap.conf [09:16] the pam_ldap stuff shipped in dapper is different enough from whats in gutsy (eg what is running at work) that i cant directly relate. especially since i've worked with it [09:16] iirc actually, my other stuff was actually not ldap but something else. *shrug* i dont remember ;| [09:16] yeah, they changed a lot from Dapper <-> Gutsy [09:16] pschulz01, evening [09:17] maybe someone else knows?! :) [09:17] * Kamping_Kaiser pokes lamont [09:19] Kamping_Kaiser: evening [09:19] Kamping_Kaiser: How do we fix logwatch? [09:20] pschulz01, give it to kim [09:20] Kamping_Kaiser: hehe.. [09:20] Kamping_Kaiser: .. or buy be some time :-) [09:21] pschulz01, who is be? ;) [09:21] s/be/me [09:21] Kamping_Kaiser: Cricket's getting exciting :-) [09:22] pschulz01, i'll hvae to check. [09:23] Kamping_Kaiser: I've been left holding the baby.. so if I disappear in a hurry you'll know why. [09:23] pschulz01, no worries.hope it doesnt explode on you :) [09:25] should be close, if australia dont lose any wickets in the next 5~ overs [09:25] Kamping_Kaiser: The last final is in Adelaide. [09:25] Kamping_Kaiser: If it's on. [09:25] pschulz01, i'm willing to put money on it being a dead rubber [09:25] in all honesty... [09:27] Kamping_Kaiser: What did the temperature get to today? I'm not gettign any email as my mail gateway crashed. [09:27] Kamping_Kaiser: It happens in hot weather. [09:28] pschulz01, its ~30 atm in the city, so it must have been fairly toasty 2 hrs ago [09:28] s/2/3 [09:29] pschulz01, tomorrow is meant to be 37 [09:29] Kamping_Kaiser: Beck nearly bought me the xkcd t-shirt - 'regular expressions' [09:29] Kamping_Kaiser: (It's birthday week :-) [09:30] pschulz01, :) 'nearly'? [09:31] Kamping_Kaiser: Someone should outlaw angle grinders in hot weather!! [09:31] Kamping_Kaiser: Sat [09:32] pschulz01, sorry, dont think you'll have a galaxy for your bday ;) [09:32] Kamping_Kaiser: Woot!~ [09:32] soren: you should setup +n, anyhow external irc-users could send messages in this channel without joining it! [09:32] heheh [09:33] Out! [09:33] kraut: Ah, true. [09:35] :) [09:35] Ah!!! [09:38] pschulz01, day before yesterdays userfriendly is good ;) [09:41] blackberry? [09:41] no, crossword [09:41] Did you do it? [09:41] i only know two answers :p [09:41] Did you see the 'UF' game? [09:42] Published a while ago. [09:42] quite a while ago. i did, never tried it out though [09:42] I reacon we should. Print it out.. [09:43] at work ;) [09:43] Lunchtime. [09:43] kgoetz, http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080302 [09:43] kgoetz, remember that for us [09:43] Kamping_Kaiser: He's good like that. [09:45] pschulz01, hey, needs to have some use ;) [09:45] * Kamping_Kaiser is thinking of heading off RSN [09:45] I am invincible!!! [09:45] (I'll have to show you some funky perl tomorrow.) [09:46] logwatch is enough perl for me this week [09:53] afk [10:23] soren: could you give me a hint please?! How does pam_ldap do the authentification? How does it know where the userdn is? [10:23] grep -Ri Users /etc/* |grep -i example |grep -v smbldap-tools |grep -v phpldapadmin => Returns nothing. [10:23] i would have exspected something like: usersdn="ou=Users,dc=example,dc=net" [10:26] spiekey, did you set that OU? [10:27] spiekey, also, use grep -v -e -e -e etc [10:27] or egrep, for that matter [10:28] spiekey: From configuration file of some sort (or defaults if there is no such file). [10:29] soren: so the default is "Users" ? [10:29] Kamping_Kaiser: thanks, i will do that :) [10:30] spiekey: I would have guesses it was People, but I could easily be wrong. [10:31] most places use people afaik, but as long as you setup everything the same it shouldnt matter... [10:35] I am just trying to understand where exactly this is set up. [10:35] spiekey: Dapper? [10:36] Yes! :) [10:40] spiekey: I'll check. [10:42] Hi all .. fired up a new box tossed Ubuntu Server 8.04 Alpha5 (AMD64bit) and it is not playing nice with bash_completion. It'll finish out directories (sudo /etc/apac) but not applications .. like sudo aptit inst smartmo .. it just beeps. [10:43] spiekey: Ok, I haven't followed the conversation here, so I'll be asking silly questions for a bit, probably. [10:44] spiekey: This is pam or nss? [10:44] spiekey: Or both? [11:04] both really [11:07] soren: The PAM module are used at different stages. The "auth" lines handle the actual authentication. The first line says to authenticate using the shared library pam_ldap.so. This collects the user name and password. If the LDAP server is available, it checks the password. [11:07] i would like to know how the "it checks the password" works in detail. [11:11] it probably tries to autenticate against the ldap server using the credentials given. [11:11] What's the problem we're trying to solve? [11:12] /etc/pam_ldap.conf is used to libpam-ldap and /etc/libnss-ldap.conf is used for libnss-ldap. [11:12] I'm guessing they could be replaced by a symlink to the same file if one were so inclined. [11:12] soren: i already linked them ;) [11:13] Ok. And what seems to be the issue? [11:14] i am trying to understand the magic. The credentials in the config files do not point to users or groups. just to a basedn and rootbinddn [11:16] ah! [11:17] soren: i am getting there... [11:17] Heh [11:18] pam_login_attribute might be what you're looking for? [11:18] soren: nono, its sooo easy! [11:19] give me a minute, i have to write it down [11:25] the whole "magic" is that pam_ldap looks in basedn for a Object that contains the posixAccount Class. [11:25] thats how it finds the user [11:26] soren: http://pastebin.ca/927557 [11:29] soren: are you impressed? :) [11:34] no? hmm..., :-/ [11:38] Sorry, was away. [11:39] Good work! :) [12:55] hi all [12:56] People, I would like to change my locale, how I do this ? What is command line ? [12:56] dpk-reconfigure locale ? [12:59] that's a good question, one which I've never actually had to do [13:31] Hi Guys! I just curious about ebox. Is it ready for Hardy? Seems to me that lately zul is working on... [13:31] abogani: hopefully I can get it into universe this week [13:32] zul: Thanks, Chuck. [13:32] abogani: its in my ppa if you want to take a testdrive [13:34] zul: Yeah! I'll try it soon. Thanks again! [13:35] I install localeconf (apt-get install localeconf) but don't have command localeconf. Anyone know what is command to call localeconf ? [13:37] zul: I had a question about eBox... does it have to use slapd when you enable the users and groups module? [13:39] sommer: no idea I just package it [13:39] gotcha [14:16] hello sommer [14:16] could you send me an email with your address? [14:17] nijaba: sure [14:17] mailing address right? [14:17] yeah, right [14:17] heh... thought I'd make sure [14:17] Trying to get a machine with VT enabled sent to you [14:18] nijaba: send me one as well ;) [14:18] hmm, souns interesting :) [14:18] zul: you don't need one, you've got one in your head ;) [14:19] meh [14:19] nijaba: Agreed :-) [14:19] nijaba: mail sent [14:20] wow... that would be great [14:20] sommer: heh, we need KVM documented, right ;) [14:21] sommer: got your email, thanks [14:21] yep, another way to go would be to allow access remotely [14:23] either way works for me :-) [14:28] Hi, someone told me, that /etc/init.d/$SKRIPT is not the "right" way to start or stop scripts. Instead Ubuntu developed a new mechanism, I was told. [14:28] I could not find any hints at help.ubuntu.com. So is there something new? Where [14:28] can I find more info about? [14:32] Qbi-Jens: as far as I know that's still the way it's done [14:33] Qbi-Jens: they may have meant upstart: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ [14:34] those scripts still stop and start services, though [14:39] sommer: Thanks. I'll have a look at it. [14:40] np [14:41] a [14:42] mathiaz: I updated the merge with the ifup.d stuff http://people.ubuntu.com/~chucks/samba-3.0.28-merge.debdiff [14:44] zul: ok - I'll have a look at it. We have some time before uploading as we're in archive freeze until alpha6 is released. [14:44] yep [14:44] ill do the ffe when it looks good [14:45] zul: I don't think we need a FFe for that. It's a bug fix only. [14:46] zul: although it's a merge from debian - may wanna ask the release team. [14:46] yep [15:00] if we're passing out VT machines like candy, sign me up [15:06] I was trying to install php 5.2.5 on my server, and messed everything up [15:07] now when I try to install mysql with apt-get it says The following packages have unmet dependencies: mysql-server: Depends: mysql-server-5.0 but it is not going to be installed [15:07] Is there some way to fix this? [15:10] Isaiah: which release are you using? [15:10] gutsy [15:10] I messed it up by trying to manually install a bounch of php 5.2.4 packages [15:11] and then wouldn't install so I ran apt-get -f install ( I know... stupid me) [15:12] Is there some way to get a list of packages I installed manually and remove them? [15:13] Isaiah: did you try apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 ? [15:13] Isaiah: when you say installed manually, do you mean with apt-get ? [15:14] mysql-server-5.0: Depends: mysql-client-5.0 (>= 5.0.45-1ubuntu3.1) but it is not going to be installed [15:14] by manually I mean download the .deb packages and install it with apt-get [15:15] mmm... were the .debs from Ubuntu's repositories? [15:16] yes, I got the php *.deb here: http://ubuntu.interlegis.gov.br/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php-pear_5.2.4-2ubuntu5_all.deb [15:16] and then downloaded everything it depended on from the same site [15:19] Isaiah: looks like you installed the php for hardy and not gutsy [15:19] Ah... oops [15:19] is there some way to undo that? [15:19] dpkg -l | grep php [15:19] will list all the php packages [15:20] ok [15:20] then do apt-get --purge remove package_name [15:20] that should remove everything [15:20] you can then do: apt-get install php-pear; and you should be off and running [15:20] ok, I will try that [15:20] Thanks :) [15:20] np [15:24] I do dpkg -l | grep php and it shows me all the php packages [15:25] but when I do apt-get --purge remove php-pear (or whatever package) it says it's not installed [15:28] Isaiah: I'd just remove any of the php packages you might have downloaded and installed [15:28] whichever ones are in the list [15:29] right, but how do I remove them if apt-get --purge remove packagename doesn't work? [15:30] try: dpkg -P package_name [15:30] sort of the same thing :-) [15:30] Olfrygt [15:30] I knew I kept that term around for a reason [15:30] new hostname [15:31] that works sommer :) [15:31] hi sommer [15:31] hey faulkes [15:37] faulkes-: don't dream about vt machines, it will be a loan, at best [15:38] kind of unfortunate that scripting languages have to duplicate package management on systems like debian [15:40] nijaba: no need to dream actually, I ordered a new dell yesterday [15:42] even got the new hostname picked out ;) [15:43] I'm using ubuntu server Feisty Fawn now, is there an easy way to upgrade it to php 5.2.5? [15:44] anyways, I'll check survey for new stuff and then head back to improving the forum reporting stuff, which is almost at the stage where I'd feel ok putting it into LP [15:47] faulkes-: regarding the survey, I saw that you changed the names in LimeSurvey, which is great, but I am unsure on which to work on now. Is it the inactive v0.2? [15:54] nijaba: my username is attached when you look at the ownership column [15:54] the others are listed as admin [15:54] but yes, the inactive v2.0 [15:55]