[00:29] <keescook> I am presently stumped by insane network configs.
[00:42] <mralphabet> keescook: you aren't the only one
[00:42]  * mralphabet mocks the network guy, "Let's VLAN *EVERYTHING!*
[00:42] <mralphabet> "
[00:42]  * keescook hides in shame
[00:43] <keescook> my home network has like, 6 VLANs.  ;)  however, today's problem is related to hibernation on my laptop, it seems
[00:44] <mralphabet> but it's stupid vlan's . . . not for security or to reduce broadcasts / other traffic, he vlans 3 class c subnets together
[00:44] <keescook> ieeeee
[00:44] <mralphabet> I understand the point of it, but not there! anyway, hibernation sucks ;)
[00:45] <Bambi_BOFH> why are you vlaning /24's? o_0
[00:45] <mralphabet> Bambi_BOFH: EXACTLY!
[00:47]  * Bambi_BOFH wonders wether he should worry or simply flee
[00:48] <mralphabet> it drives me crazy
[00:49] <zul> keescook: 2 words....carrier pigeon
[00:49] <mralphabet> sneaker net > carrier pigeon
[00:50] <Bambi_BOFH> mralphabet: try doing an interstate link with sneakernet
[00:50] <mralphabet> hey, there isn't enough bandwidth to cover a uhaul full of backup tapes
[00:50] <Bambi_BOFH> uhaul?
[00:51] <mralphabet> http://thewifeslife.files.wordpress.com/2006/03/uhaul.jpg
[00:52] <Bambi_BOFH> ah right. a truck with a fancy name :p
[00:52] <mralphabet> yes
[00:53] <mralphabet> apologies to those overseas
[00:53] <Bambi_BOFH> hehe. no worries
[00:55]  * Bambi_BOFH decends into the very depths of hell itself... using emacs *dramatic chord*
[00:55] <mralphabet> omg
[00:57]  * Bambi_BOFH has a reference guide, and not a clue, so this could be ... interesting.
[00:58] <mralphabet> no other alternative? . . . ed?
[01:00] <Bambi_BOFH> vims there, but i need to learn emacs. and perl. so i'm combining the two into one very unproductive but educational day (and getting paid for it)
[01:03] <mralphabet> well . . . that counts as a +1
[01:08] <mralphabet> uhoh . .. fsck.ext3 is going crazy
[01:09] <Bambi_BOFH> :|
[01:10] <mralphabet> Block bitmap for group 2263 is not in group.  (block 0)
[01:10] <mralphabet> Relocate<y>?
[01:11]  * mralphabet orders a drive
[01:14] <mralphabet> how do you copy partition sizes from driveA to driveB?
[01:29] <rhineheart_m> hello.. how to install pear in ubuntu gutsy?
[01:29] <mralphabet> php-pear - PEAR - PHP Extension and Application Repository
[01:29] <mralphabet> that?
[01:30] <rhineheart_m> yeah.. since my joomla is looking for it?
[01:30] <mralphabet> sudo apt-get install php-pear
[01:30] <mralphabet> I would assume
[01:31] <rhineheart_m> I got this error actually..
[01:32] <rhineheart_m> Warning: require_once(/var/www/joomla/editor/editor.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/joomla/index2.php on line 96
[01:32] <mralphabet> uhh, okay
[01:32] <rhineheart_m> Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/var/www/joomla/editor/editor.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/joomla/index2.php on line 96
[01:33] <rhineheart_m> that's pear, right?
[01:35] <mralphabet> the first error has nothing to do with pear, as far as i can tell . . .
[01:36] <kgoetz> neither does the second
[01:37] <rhineheart_m> thanks kgoetz! welcome back..
[01:37] <rhineheart_m> so.. any idea what it is all about?
[01:38] <rhineheart_m> I tried actually sudo apt-get install php-pear as recommended by mralphabet... but the says that it has already its latest version
[01:38] <kgoetz> it cant open /var/www/joomla/editor/editor.php
[01:38] <kgoetz> which means its probably not in the path listed .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear
[01:38] <kgoetz> in the file /var/www/joomla/index2.php
[01:39] <rhineheart_m> what do you mean with that? which means its probably not in the path listed .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear
[01:40] <kgoetz> the file editor.php is not in either . /usr/share/php or /usr/share/pear
[01:41] <kgoetz> afk. lunch time
[01:44] <mralphabet> or in /var/www/joomla/editor/
[02:58] <fujin> anyone know of a tutorial/howto for clustering with redhat-cluster-suite on ubuntu?
[02:58] <fujin> as it's the only cluster suite in 'main', it's surprisingly difficult to find tutorials
[03:46] <Fozzy57> Hello....I currently have a LAMP server in place and I am having issues running Jabber and sendmail on the same machine. Is there a little trick that I am missing?
[03:47] <kgoetz> what sort of issues?
[03:48] <Fozzy57> Well I can get when I install sendmail it works pefectly. Then once  I install Jabber, I can not get any email out of the server....
[03:49] <kgoetz> any errors?
[03:49] <Fozzy57> I am using dotproject on the server and like to send emails out regarding status, and then have Jabber in place as a real time collabritive communication point in the server
[03:49] <Fozzy57> Just says "Failed to Send"
[03:49] <kgoetz> what about your mail logs?
[03:50] <Fozzy57> that is the funny thing the mail logs are not reporting any problems.
[03:50] <Fozzy57> When I set up sendmail I added a path to IPtables to route the email to the exchange server.
[03:52] <Fozzy57> basically I am just using the smtp functions to send out the updates....
[03:52] <kgoetz> why in iptables?
[03:54] <Fozzy57> well until I specified the path, and I would have to look at the server to get the exact information, I could not get any mail sent. This is a stand alone smtp box in network that contains an exchange server....
[03:54] <Fozzy57> the idea was that basically it would just forward the email to the exchange server for routing...
[03:55] <kgoetz> why dont you setup the mail server to send to exchange so it happens properly?
[03:56] <Fozzy57> Tried using a smart relay to do that, and it failed....It could be that I set it up wrong.......which would explain my problems now...
[03:57] <kgoetz> s/smart relaty/smarthost/ ?
[03:57] <kgoetz> i dont have any postfix systems setup with smarthosts, so i dont know how easy it is to do (i hate postfix)
[03:58] <Fozzy57> everything i have read on getting sendmail to work with exchange 2003 says to setup a smarthost.......
[03:59] <kgoetz> thats what i'd expect it to say
[03:59] <Fozzy57> i think it might only apply if the exchange server is an smtp server, which in this case it is not....
[03:59] <kgoetz> ah. what is it in this case?
[04:00] <Fozzy57> well, technically i have no smtp server to speak off......exchange is installed as Mail Transport (MTA-2)
[04:01]  * kgoetz has no idea what that means for us
[04:02] <Fozzy57> basically as I understand it ( I did not setup the exchange server) the alternative to smtp apparently is MTA at least that is what i have come to understand....
[04:03] <Fozzy57> this is what happens when you put a Linux person in an Microsoft environment
[04:11] <kgoetz> sounds pretty MSy to me
[04:53] <ScottK> It's a pretty standard setup for postfix and exchange both to stick a postfix box between the big bad internet and exchange.
[04:57] <kgoetz> mm. but in that case postfix is the smarthost, not exchange
[04:59] <ScottK> Sorry.  That's what I though we were talking about.  The reverse would be perverse.
[05:40]  * lamont notes that the most common mistake with postfix relayhosts is to not put [] around the hostname, and therefore use the MX RRs for the named host for relays, rather than the A RR for the smarthost...
[05:58] <pnukeid>  i try to install apache&php with deb, but install mysql with source, can i connect php with this mysql ?
[06:26] <kgoetz> if i dont have a /proc/acpi/ does it mean the server hardware doestn support it? i'd like to know how hot the CPUs in this system are
[06:29] <faulkes-> err, good question, what hardware is it?
[06:30] <faulkes-> could be a bios issue
[06:32] <kgoetz> dual P3, generic 1RU server, award or ami bios (i dont remember which)
[06:33] <faulkes-> I'd boot to the bios and check for any setttings there first and to see what rev of the bios it is
[06:34] <faulkes-> maybe consider installing lm-sensors and letting it run through to see what it finds as well
[06:34] <faulkes-> that should at least tell you what the mobo supports
[06:34] <kgoetz> lm-sensors is probably a good idea
[06:35] <faulkes-> probably, although I've been known to have worse ones ;)
[06:35] <faulkes-> usually after 10 or 12 beers :)
[06:36]  * kgoetz will have to leave l-s until tomorrow - just started a memtest on the system
[06:36]  * faulkes- nods
[06:37] <faulkes-> well, I'm just hoping this laptop lasts until the new one arrives
[06:37] <kgoetz> got an ETA for the new one?
[06:37] <faulkes-> kb dead, dvd dead, hdd is making squelching sounds, I've had it running continuously for almost 5 years now
[06:37] <faulkes-> 7 days or so
[06:37] <kgoetz> a laptop? wow.
[06:38] <faulkes-> dell 600m, when I bought it, it was the almost top of the line thing dell sold
[06:38] <ScottK> Bah.  New hardware.
[06:38] <kgoetz> hehe
[06:39] <faulkes-> so, I have a 1720 on order
[06:39] <ScottK> My test machine is a L400 (circa 2001).  It was just retired from being my main laptop 4 months ago.
[06:39]  * faulkes- will be glad for 1900x1200 real estate
[06:39] <kgoetz> problem with the server i'm trying to setup is it runs perfectly in bios at a stable temp, but locks in a few minutes of booting. not sure if its the ubuntu snapshot or hardware doing it though
[06:39] <faulkes-> not sure if I'd call that a heat issue
[06:40] <faulkes-> point a fan at it and keep it cool
[06:41] <kgoetz> it was running (afaik) stable under the old ubuntu release it had -0 7.04 perhaps. tomorrow is its 'shake down' day
[07:05] <pnukeid> i want try install apache+php with deb (ubuntu), but mysql install with source.. it posible ?
[07:07] <faulkes-> possible? yes, at least as far as I know, so long as you satisfy the dependencies if you expect php to connect to mysql
[07:08] <faulkes-> as for a detailed decscription of how to do it? that is beyond the scope of what I could offer help for
[07:08] <pnukeid> ok, in my phpinfo() mysql and mysqli say's that them connect mysql through sockect where /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[07:09] <pnukeid> but previous installation mysql.sock set up in /usr/local/mysql/tmp/mysql.sock
[07:09] <pnukeid> where  ishould change..
[07:09] <pnukeid> in php setting or mysql.sock
[07:10] <soren> Exfil: Hello. Do I know you?
[07:12] <faulkes-> mysql.sock is a socket, if mysql is configured to put it in /usr/local/mysql/tmp then I would change php.ini to look for it there
[07:13] <pnukeid> it's ok to change mysql.sock in php.ini ?
[07:13] <faulkes-> that is not a guarrantee it will work though, as I said, beyond the level of help I can offer
[07:13] <faulkes-> just comment out the line and below it add in your new one, restart apache, see if it works
[07:13] <faulkes-> if it doesn't work, change it back
[07:14] <faulkes-> php.ini is just a config file
[07:14] <faulkes-> hi soren
[07:14] <soren> 'morning, faulkes-.
[07:14] <pnukeid> ok i will try
[07:15] <faulkes-> yes, I suppose it is that now
[07:15]  * faulkes- really should get to bed
[07:55] <basketball589> ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnduxTalk to see.
[07:55] <basketball589> ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnduxTalk to see.
[07:55] <basketball589> ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnduxTalk to see.
[07:55] <basketball589> ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnduxTalk to see.
[07:55] <basketball589> ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnduxTalk to see.
[07:55] <basketball589> ##Linux (with ##) on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dalnduxTalk to see.
[07:57] <_ruben> they really are desperate outthere in ##linux on dalnet ..
[07:59] <basketball589> ya
[07:59] <basketball589> ##Linux (with ##) needs some good company and good channel operators. More flexible, more friendly.
[07:59] <basketball589> ##Linux (with ##) needs some good company and good channel operators. More flexible, more friendly.
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[08:00] <henkjan> hmm, nobody with ops around? i vote for a ban
[08:06] <spiekey> Hi
[08:11] <spiekey> does dapper not use /etc/pam_ldap.conf?
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:22] <spiekey> hi
[08:23] <soren> kthxbye
[08:24] <soren> Er..
[08:24] <soren> wtf..
[08:26] <soren> Well, I guess -srn is fine.
[08:38] <nijaba> morning
[08:39] <spiekey> i still dont understand the way of authentification when using a ldap backend :-/
[08:39] <spiekey> When i log in via ssh the first module it uses is pam, right?
[08:39] <spiekey> pam_ldap to be precise.
[08:40] <spiekey> correct?
[08:43] <spiekey> i wonder how the authentification works with the pam_ldap.conf (http://pastebin.ca/927428)
[08:43] <spiekey> how does it know where to look for the user?
[08:44] <kraut> soren: you should set +n
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> spiekey, depends what modules you set it to ue
[08:55] <spiekey> auth    sufficient      pam_ldap.so
[08:55] <spiekey> so i use pam_ldap first.
[08:56] <spiekey> but i do not understand how it knows where to compare the password hashes
[08:56] <spiekey> in "/etc/pam_ldap.conf" it know what kind of hash it uses.
[08:57] <spiekey> knows
[08:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> spiekey, heres where i have ldap lines:
[08:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> /etc/pam.d/common-account:account    sufficient /lib/security/pam_ldap.so
[08:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> /etc/pam.d/common-auth:auth       sufficient    /lib/security/pam_ldap.so
[08:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> /etc/pam.d/common-password:password   required  /lib/security/pam_ldap.so
[08:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> and those files are sourced where relevent by (eg) ssh/login
[08:57] <spiekey> yes. That makes sense.
[08:57] <spiekey> and /etc/pam_ldap.conf is the config file for pam_ldap.so
[08:58] <spiekey> correct?
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, iirc
[09:00]  * Kamping_Kaiser grins. heres a comment i have from in that file: # here because "lamont said"
[09:02] <spiekey> okay. So how does pam_ldap now know where to find the user?
[09:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont follow
[09:03] <spiekey> in orde to authenticate, you have to find the hash of a User and compare it against the password hash that was typed in. correct?
[09:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> hash of a user? password hash?
[09:04] <spiekey> erm... "hash of a user" = Password hash of a user
[09:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> correct enough, aiui
[09:05] <spiekey> how does pam_ldap find my user in the database then? In order to compare the password hashes?
[09:06] <spiekey> do you know what i mean?
[09:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> look in /etc/pam_ldap.conf
[09:06] <spiekey> there i have "base dc=example,dc=net" and "rootbinddn cn=manager,dc=example,dc=net"
[09:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'all that stuff' is how you configure it.
[09:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> eg pam_login_attribute
[09:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> and pam_password
[09:07] <spiekey> how does it know my users are in ou=Users,dc=example,dc=net ?
[09:07] <soren> magic
[09:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> ^^
[09:07] <spiekey> it seems like it
[09:09] <spiekey> this is my whole pam_ldap.conf: http://pastebin.ca/927442
[09:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> spiekey, which one?
[09:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, pam_ldap.conf
[09:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> spiekey, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:12] <spiekey> Dapper
[09:12]  * spiekey likes LTS
[09:13]  * Kamping_Kaiser hasnt done ldap on dapper recently
[09:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> and my notes are on my work laptop atm :|
[09:14] <spiekey> hmm...what a shame :-/
[09:15] <spiekey> does it not use nss to map username <-> uid first?
[09:15]  * spiekey is confused
[09:16] <spiekey> It looks like  /etc/libnss-ldap.conf is the same as /etc/pam_ldap.conf
[09:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> the pam_ldap stuff shipped in dapper is different enough from whats in gutsy (eg what is running at work) that i cant directly relate. especially since i've worked with it
[09:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc actually, my other stuff was actually not ldap but something else. *shrug* i dont remember ;|
[09:16] <spiekey> yeah, they changed a lot from Dapper <-> Gutsy
[09:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, evening
[09:17] <spiekey> maybe someone else knows?! :)
[09:17]  * Kamping_Kaiser pokes lamont 
[09:19] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: evening
[09:19] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: How do we fix logwatch?
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, give it to kim
[09:20] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: hehe..
[09:20] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: .. or buy be some time :-)
[09:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, who is be? ;)
[09:21] <pschulz01> s/be/me
[09:21] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Cricket's getting exciting :-)
[09:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, i'll hvae to check.
[09:23] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: I've been left holding the baby.. so if I disappear in a hurry you'll know why.
[09:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, no worries.hope it doesnt explode on you :)
[09:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> should be close, if australia dont lose any wickets in the next 5~ overs
[09:25] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: The last final is in Adelaide.
[09:25] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: If it's on.
[09:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, i'm willing to put money on it being a dead rubber
[09:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> in all honesty...
[09:27] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: What did the temperature get to today? I'm not gettign any email as my mail gateway crashed.
[09:27] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: It happens in hot weather.
[09:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, its ~30 atm in the city, so it must have been fairly toasty 2 hrs ago
[09:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> s/2/3
[09:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, tomorrow is meant to be 37
[09:29] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Beck nearly bought me the xkcd t-shirt - 'regular expressions'
[09:29] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: (It's birthday week :-)
[09:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, :) 'nearly'?
[09:31] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Someone should outlaw angle grinders in hot weather!!
[09:31] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Sat
[09:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, sorry, dont think you'll have a galaxy for your bday ;)
[09:32] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Woot!~
[09:32] <kraut> soren: you should setup +n, anyhow external irc-users could send messages in this channel without joining it!
[09:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> heheh
[09:33] <pschulz01> Out!
[09:33] <soren> kraut: Ah, true.
[09:35] <kraut> :)
[09:35] <pschulz01> Ah!!!
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, day before yesterdays userfriendly is good ;)
[09:41] <pschulz01> blackberry?
[09:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, crossword
[09:41] <pschulz01> Did you do it?
[09:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> i only know two answers :p
[09:41] <pschulz01> Did you see the 'UF' game?
[09:42] <pschulz01> Published a while ago.
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> quite a while ago. i did, never tried it out though
[09:42] <pschulz01> I reacon we should. Print it out..
[09:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> at work ;)
[09:43] <pschulz01> Lunchtime.
[09:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> kgoetz, http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080302
[09:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> kgoetz, remember that for us
[09:43] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: He's good like that.
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, hey, needs to have some use ;)
[09:45]  * Kamping_Kaiser is thinking of heading off RSN
[09:45] <pschulz01> I am invincible!!!
[09:45] <pschulz01> (I'll have to show you some funky perl tomorrow.)
[09:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> logwatch is enough perl for me this week
[09:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> afk
[10:23] <spiekey> soren: could you give me a hint please?! How does pam_ldap do the authentification? How does it know where the userdn is?
[10:23] <spiekey> grep -Ri Users /etc/* |grep -i example |grep -v smbldap-tools |grep -v phpldapadmin    => Returns nothing.
[10:23] <spiekey> i would have exspected something like: usersdn="ou=Users,dc=example,dc=net"
[10:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> spiekey, did you set that OU?
[10:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> spiekey, also, use grep -v -e <string> -e <string2> -e <string3> etc
[10:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> or egrep, for that matter
[10:28] <soren> spiekey: From configuration file of some sort (or defaults if there is no such file).
[10:29] <spiekey> soren: so the default is "Users" ?
[10:29] <spiekey> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks, i will do that :)
[10:30] <soren> spiekey: I would have guesses it was People, but I could easily be wrong.
[10:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> most places use people afaik, but as long as you setup everything the same it shouldnt matter...
[10:35] <spiekey> I am just trying to understand where exactly this is set up.
[10:35] <soren> spiekey: Dapper?
[10:36] <spiekey> Yes! :)
[10:40] <soren> spiekey: I'll check.
[10:42] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. fired up a new box tossed Ubuntu Server 8.04 Alpha5 (AMD64bit) and it is not playing nice with bash_completion. It'll finish out directories (sudo /etc/apac<tab>) but not applications .. like sudo aptit<tab> inst<tab> smartmo<tab> .. it just beeps.
[10:43] <soren> spiekey: Ok, I haven't followed the conversation here, so I'll be asking silly questions for a bit, probably.
[10:44] <soren> spiekey: This is pam or nss?
[10:44] <soren> spiekey: Or both?
[11:04] <spiekey> both really
[11:07] <spiekey> soren: The PAM module are used at different stages.  The "auth" lines handle the actual authentication.  The first line says to authenticate using the shared library pam_ldap.so.  This collects the user name and password.  If the LDAP server is available, it checks the password.
[11:07] <spiekey> i would like to know how the "it checks the password" works in detail.
[11:11] <soren> it probably tries to autenticate against the ldap server using the credentials given.
[11:11] <soren> What's the problem we're trying to solve?
[11:12] <soren> /etc/pam_ldap.conf is used to libpam-ldap and /etc/libnss-ldap.conf is used for libnss-ldap.
[11:12] <soren> I'm guessing they could be replaced by a symlink to the same file if one were so inclined.
[11:12] <spiekey> soren: i already linked them ;)
[11:13] <soren> Ok. And what seems to be the issue?
[11:14] <spiekey> i am trying to understand the magic. The credentials in the config files do not point to users or groups. just to a basedn and rootbinddn
[11:16] <spiekey> ah!
[11:17] <spiekey> soren: i am getting there...
[11:17] <soren> Heh
[11:18] <soren> pam_login_attribute might be what you're looking for?
[11:18] <spiekey> soren: nono, its sooo easy!
[11:19] <spiekey> give me a minute, i have to write it down
[11:25] <spiekey> the whole "magic" is that pam_ldap looks in basedn for a Object that contains the posixAccount Class.
[11:25] <spiekey> thats how it finds the user
[11:26] <spiekey> soren: http://pastebin.ca/927557
[11:29] <spiekey> soren: are you impressed? :)
[11:34] <spiekey> no? hmm..., :-/
[11:38] <soren> Sorry, was away.
[11:39] <soren> Good work! :)
[12:55] <J_P> hi all
[12:56] <J_P> People, I would like to change my locale, how I do this ? What is command line ?
[12:56] <J_P> dpk-reconfigure locale ?
[12:59] <faulkes-> that's a good question, one which I've never actually had to do
[13:31] <abogani> Hi Guys! I just curious about ebox. Is it ready for Hardy? Seems to me that lately zul is working on...
[13:31] <zul> abogani: hopefully I can get it into universe this week
[13:32] <abogani> zul: Thanks, Chuck.
[13:32] <zul> abogani: its in my ppa if you want to take a testdrive
[13:34] <abogani> zul: Yeah! I'll try it soon. Thanks again!
[13:35] <J_P> I install localeconf (apt-get install localeconf) but don't have command localeconf. Anyone know what is command to call localeconf ?
[13:37] <sommer> zul: I had a question about eBox... does it have to use slapd when you enable the users and groups module?
[13:39] <zul> sommer: no idea I just package it
[13:39] <sommer> gotcha
[14:16] <nijaba> hello sommer
[14:16] <nijaba> could you send me an email with your address?
[14:17] <sommer> nijaba: sure
[14:17] <sommer> mailing address right?
[14:17] <nijaba> yeah, right
[14:17] <sommer> heh... thought I'd make sure
[14:17] <nijaba> Trying to get a machine with VT enabled sent to you
[14:18] <zul> nijaba: send me one as well ;)
[14:18] <henkjan> hmm, souns interesting :)
[14:18] <nijaba> zul: you don't need one, you've got one in your head ;)
[14:19] <zul> meh
[14:19] <abogani> nijaba: Agreed :-)
[14:19] <sommer> nijaba: mail sent
[14:20] <sommer> wow... that would be great
[14:20] <nijaba> sommer: heh, we need KVM documented, right ;)
[14:21] <nijaba> sommer: got your email, thanks
[14:21] <sommer> yep, another way to go would be to allow access remotely
[14:23] <sommer> either way works for me :-)
[14:28] <Qbi-Jens> Hi, someone told me, that /etc/init.d/$SKRIPT is not the "right" way to start or stop scripts. Instead Ubuntu developed a new mechanism, I was told.
[14:28] <Qbi-Jens> I could not find any hints at help.ubuntu.com. So is there something new? Where
[14:28] <Qbi-Jens> can I find more info about?
[14:32] <sommer> Qbi-Jens: as far as I know that's still the way it's done
[14:33] <sommer> Qbi-Jens: they may have meant upstart: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[14:34] <sommer> those scripts still stop and start services, though
[14:39] <Qbi-Jens> sommer: Thanks. I'll have a look at it.
[14:40] <sommer> np
[14:41] <Qbi-Jens> a
[14:42] <zul> mathiaz: I updated the merge with the ifup.d stuff http://people.ubuntu.com/~chucks/samba-3.0.28-merge.debdiff
[14:44] <mathiaz> zul: ok - I'll have a look at it. We have some time before uploading as we're in archive freeze until alpha6 is released.
[14:44] <zul> yep
[14:44] <zul> ill do the ffe when it looks good
[14:45] <mathiaz> zul: I don't think we need a FFe for that. It's a bug fix only.
[14:46] <mathiaz> zul: although it's a merge from debian - may wanna ask the release team.
[14:46] <zul> yep
[15:00] <faulkes-> if we're passing out VT machines like candy, sign me up
[15:06] <Isaiah> I was trying to install php 5.2.5 on my server, and messed everything up
[15:07] <Isaiah> now when I try to install mysql with apt-get it says The following packages have unmet dependencies: mysql-server: Depends: mysql-server-5.0 but it is not going to be installed
[15:07] <Isaiah> Is there some way to fix this?
[15:10] <sommer> Isaiah: which release are you using?
[15:10] <Isaiah> gutsy
[15:10] <Isaiah> I messed it up by trying to manually install a bounch of php 5.2.4 packages
[15:11] <Isaiah> and then wouldn't install so I ran apt-get -f install ( I know... stupid me)
[15:12] <Isaiah> Is there some way to get a list of packages I installed manually and remove them?
[15:13] <sommer> Isaiah: did you try apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 ?
[15:13] <sommer> Isaiah: when you say installed manually, do you mean with apt-get ?
[15:14] <Isaiah>  mysql-server-5.0: Depends: mysql-client-5.0 (>= 5.0.45-1ubuntu3.1) but it is not going to be installed
[15:14] <Isaiah> by manually I mean download the .deb packages and install it with apt-get
[15:15] <sommer> mmm... were the .debs from Ubuntu's repositories?
[15:16] <Isaiah> yes, I got the php *.deb here: http://ubuntu.interlegis.gov.br/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php-pear_5.2.4-2ubuntu5_all.deb
[15:16] <Isaiah> and then downloaded everything it depended on from the same site
[15:19] <sommer> Isaiah: looks like you installed the php for hardy and not gutsy
[15:19] <Isaiah> Ah... oops
[15:19] <Isaiah> is there some way to undo that?
[15:19] <sommer> dpkg -l | grep php
[15:19] <sommer> will list all the php packages
[15:20] <Isaiah> ok
[15:20] <sommer> then do apt-get --purge remove package_name
[15:20] <sommer> that should remove everything
[15:20] <sommer> you can then do: apt-get install php-pear; and you should be off and running
[15:20] <Isaiah> ok, I will try that
[15:20] <Isaiah> Thanks :)
[15:20] <sommer> np
[15:24] <Isaiah> I do dpkg -l | grep php and it shows me all the php packages
[15:25] <Isaiah> but when I do apt-get --purge remove php-pear (or whatever package) it says it's not installed
[15:28] <sommer> Isaiah: I'd just remove any of the php packages you might have downloaded and installed
[15:28] <sommer> whichever ones are in the list
[15:29] <Isaiah> right, but how do I remove them if apt-get --purge remove packagename doesn't work?
[15:30] <sommer> try: dpkg -P package_name
[15:30] <sommer> sort of the same thing :-)
[15:30] <faulkes-> Olfrygt
[15:30] <faulkes-> I knew I kept that term around for a reason
[15:30] <faulkes-> new hostname
[15:31] <Isaiah> that works sommer :)
[15:31] <faulkes-> hi sommer
[15:31] <sommer> hey faulkes
[15:37] <nijaba> faulkes-: don't dream about vt machines, it will be a loan, at best
[15:38] <pwnguin> kind of unfortunate that scripting languages have to duplicate package management on systems like debian
[15:40] <faulkes-> nijaba: no need to dream actually, I ordered a new dell yesterday
[15:42] <faulkes-> even got the new hostname picked out ;)
[15:43] <Isaiah> I'm using ubuntu server Feisty Fawn now, is there an easy way to upgrade it to php 5.2.5?
[15:44] <faulkes-> anyways, I'll check survey for new stuff and then head back to improving the forum reporting stuff, which is almost at the stage where I'd feel ok putting it into LP
[15:47] <nijaba> faulkes-: regarding the survey, I saw that you changed the names in LimeSurvey, which is great, but I am unsure on which to work on now.  Is it the inactive v0.2?
[15:54] <faulkes-> nijaba: my username is attached when you look at the ownership column
[15:54] <faulkes-> the others are listed as admin
[15:54] <faulkes-> but yes, the inactive v2.0
[15:55] <nijaba> faulkes-: cool, thanks
[16:11] <faulkes-> nijaba: inactive v2.0 is also what's in my LP because I believe I had to modify one of the template files as well
[16:29] <soulc> so can I talk now?
[16:29] <soulc> yes
[16:38] <soulc> so where can I get some help with apache2 now..... I would like to enable user dirs ie public-html.
[16:38] <soulc> er public_html
[16:38] <spiekey> is this not an #apache question? :)
[16:39] <soulc> I think I asked where like a channel name
[16:39] <soulc> so your response should be #apache not a question
[16:40] <spiekey> #apache !
[16:40] <spiekey> ;)
[16:40]  * spiekey will brb
[16:40] <soulc> but more to the point is there a ubuntu specific apache channel
[16:40] <spiekey> how is ubuntu and apache related?
[16:41] <spiekey> #apache is fine, belive me. Or wait here for some help :)
[16:41] <spiekey> i gotta go
[16:41] <soulc> bye
[17:59] <keescook> mornin'
[18:10] <mathiaz> hiya keescook !
[18:12] <keescook> heya mathiaz :)
[18:39] <Isaiah> I'm using ubuntu server Feisty Fawn now, is there an easy way to upgrade it to php 5.2.5?
[19:02] <keescook> Isaiah: is there something in 5.2.5 you need?
[19:02] <keescook> you could try building debian's php5 (http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php5.html)
[19:16] <Isaiah> keescook, yes I need to test my code with php 5.2.5, because the server I'm using is upgraded to 5.2.5
[19:16] <Isaiah> I need to run the same version of php on both the production server and my devlopment server
[19:20] <zul> build from source maybe?
[19:31] <keescook> Isaiah: cd /tmp; sudo apt-get build-dep php5; sudo apt-get install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; dget http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.2.5-3.dsc; dpkg-source -x php5*dsc; cd php5-*; debuild -uc -us; cd ..; ls *.deb
[19:32] <Isaiah> Thanks keescook, I will give that a try
[19:33] <Isaiah> Will that copy the mod_php stuff into the right place?
[19:33] <keescook> Isaiah: for more details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[19:33] <keescook> Isaiah: it will build you Debian's php5 .deb files on Ubuntu, YMMV, etc
[19:34] <Isaiah> ah I see
[19:34] <Isaiah> then I can just intsall the .deb file like normal?
[19:34] <keescook> Isaiah: with "dpkg -i" yeah...  though you won't get security updates automatically any more, etc.
[19:34] <Isaiah> right, that's ok
[19:35] <Isaiah> Thanks for the help keescook :)
[19:35] <keescook> Isaiah: np.  :)
[19:48] <Isaiah> you still around keescook?
[19:49] <Isaiah> I tried you suggestion, and it keeps complaining to me about an unmet dependency libdb4.6-dev
[19:50] <keescook> Isaiah: yawp
[19:50] <keescook> for missing deps, just   sudo apt-get install DEP
[19:50] <keescook> where the DEP is what you need
[19:51] <keescook> since you're spanning between old distros, you may have to "adjust" your debian package source :)
[19:52] <Isaiah> It says I need libdb4.6-dev, but apt-get can only find version 4.5
[19:52] <keescook> in that case, edit debian/control and use 4.5 -- that may fix it.  This is all guessing on my part -- I've not tried to do a php5 backport like this before.
[19:54] <faulkes-> nor have I but I would tend to agree that may fix the issue
[19:56] <Isaiah> well it fixed things enough to let the package build
[20:05] <jdstrand> soren: with libvirt, should vnet0 have an ip address? my libvirt guests aren't getting an ip address, even though dnsmasq is running (but vnet0 does not have an address)
[20:11] <jddk23> Hello everybody. I just finished installing Server 6.06 LAMP and it boots to a command prompt. How can I make it login to GUI? Also, what is the default root password? THANK YOU!!
[20:13] <soren> jdstrand: It's fine for vnet0 not to have an address.
[20:13] <soren> jdstrand: Think of it as a plug in a switch.
[20:13] <jdstrand> soren: that is what I thought...
[20:13] <jdstrand> hmmm
[20:13] <zul> sommer: ping
[20:14] <jdstrand> soren: is there a bug on dhcp clients not working right with dnsmasq?
[20:14] <zul> sommer: traffic shaping fixed in my ppa
[20:14] <jdstrand> (this was working before-- I didn't change my networking either)
[20:15] <jdstrand> soren: this is a converted dapper vm that used to work
[20:16] <sommer> zul: cool, I'll update this evening
[20:25] <jdstrand> soren: ok, I am not going crazy-- I just tried another vm and dhcp isn't working there either
[20:26] <jdstrand> $ ps auxww|grep [d]nsmasq
[20:26] <jdstrand> nobody    7445  0.0  0.0  14696  1020 ?        S    Mar02   0:00 dnsmasq --keep-in-foreground --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file  --conf-file  --listen-address 192.168.122.1 --except-interface lo --dhcp-leasefile=/var/lib/libvirt/dhcp-default.leases --dhcp-range 192.168.122.2,192.168.122.254
[20:26] <jdstrand> aha
[20:26] <jdstrand> dnsmasq[7445]: no address range available for DHCP request via vnet0
[20:53] <spiekey> soren: you there?
[20:54] <soren> sommer: On my way to bed. Be quick.
[20:54] <spiekey> i have    group: files ldap [UNAVAIL=continue]
[20:54] <spiekey> but i still can not log in if ldap is down
[20:54] <spiekey> is my line correct?
[20:54] <soren> That last one is redundant, I belive. It should be the default (yes,I know I was the one who told you to put it there)
[20:54] <spiekey> hehe
[20:55] <sommer> eh?
[20:55] <spiekey> continue means it should carry on or what?
[20:56] <sommer> nm, you meant spiekey
[20:56] <spiekey> i guess so :)
[21:55] <halcyonCorsair> are there any dhcpd guru's around, or does anyone know where I can get help with dhcpd?
[21:56] <sommer> halcyonCorsair: what's your issue?
[21:56] <halcyonCorsair> i'm wanting to assign a pool of ip addresses to devices with mac addresses in a certain range
[21:57] <levander> If I ran a cron job last night, but haven't set anything up with email on my system yet, where does the cron job output go?
[21:57] <sommer> halcyonCorsair: not entirely sure that's possible
[21:58] <sommer> halcyonCorsair: I guess you could setup a script to populate the mac range... at least that's one way
[21:58] <kgoetz> levander: what are you running?
[21:58] <halcyonCorsair> it should be possible, i've found hints that it may be possible .... at the very least by dns-masq (although i'd rather not use that)
[21:58] <levander> Gutsy
[21:58] <kgoetz> i'm fairly sure dhcpd does support that, for bootp purposes if nothing else
[21:58] <kgoetz> levander: check you have a mail server installed
[21:58] <halcyonCorsair> but the documentation on dhcpd.conf and dhcp-eval seems to be a little......dry
[21:59] <halcyonCorsair> kgoetz: any idea where i can get more help?
[21:59] <levander> I just checked with dpkg -l postfix and dovecot, neither are installed.
[21:59] <kgoetz> halcyonCorsair: if the comments in the config file dont give you any points i dont off the top of my head
[21:59] <sommer> eh... kgoetz probably knows more than me :-)
[21:59] <kgoetz> levander: then theres the problem - no mail server to send the mail from cron
[21:59] <halcyonCorsair> kgoetz: the config / example files only really cover the basics
[22:00] <halcyonCorsair> levander: i can't populate the mac range beforehand because i don't know which mac's i'll be getting exactly
[22:01] <kgoetz> i strip my dhcpd config files after i configure them, so i dont have a default one ot reference *ekeeps looking*
[22:01] <levander> kgoetz: just install dovecot, and i'll get the output emails?
[22:01] <Nafallo> no
[22:01] <kgoetz> levander: ubuntu prefers postfix
[22:01]  * kgoetz prefers exim
[22:01] <Nafallo> dovecot doesn't do the same thing at all
[22:02]  * kgoetz isnt sure how dovcot works
[22:02] <soren> It works fine.
[22:02] <Nafallo> kgoetz: imapd and pop3d, rather then smtpd
[22:02] <Nafallo> :-)
[22:02] <kgoetz> Nafallo: aah right :)
[22:03] <sommer> halcyonCorsair: you might read through this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=675257
[22:06] <halcyonCorsair> sommer: i think that could be it......if it is, you are my hero
[22:06] <sommer> heh... I'd try it out first
[22:06] <kgoetz> hehe
[22:08] <halcyonCorsair> obviously i need to level up my google fu or something
[22:08] <halcyonCorsair> all i kept getting is a million copies of the man page
[22:09]  * keescook <3 kvm
[22:11] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I've got a newer Sampron 3000+ processor. I've read both it is and it is not a 64bit processor. It is in a server/headless machine I've been playing with Hardy Alpha5 64bit server edition and it seem'ed "okay" with some minor bash_completion issues (prolly not associated w/64bit) and some difficulty in restoring MySQL databases (might be 64bit issue) .. ideas?
[22:12]  * kgoetz has the idea you should ask a question we can answer
[22:13] <NineTeen67Comet> lol .. sorry, that did ramble .. Basically does the server edition make as big a diff as the desktop edition when it comes to 64bit issues?
[22:14]  * NineTeen67Comet I'm not a fan of AMD anyhow, but I just wanna make it as easy on the processor as possible. This just a web server with minimal in house print/file sharing.
[22:14] <kgoetz> i'd say no, but i'll let someone else who knows more answer
[22:15] <NineTeen67Comet> uhn'k .. I'm headed off to slave camp "work". I'll keep playing with it. This is the first time I've been able to actually use new hardware in the 5 years I've been using Linux on my servers .. heheheh
[22:16] <kgoetz> *grin*
[22:19] <NineTeen67Comet> thanks much for your time kgoetz .. I'm outty
[22:34] <halcyonCorsair> that was.....weird
[22:46] <keescook> soren: since you've done some dpkg poking, can you take a look at 198421 when you get a chance?
[22:47] <soren> keescook: Interesint.
[22:47] <soren> er...
[22:48] <soren> Interesting.
[22:48] <soren> "Interesint"?!?
[23:15] <soren> keescook: bzr branch with fix pushed. Yay karma :)
[23:20] <kgoetz> ffs. why is there only dvd images at cdimage.ubuntu.com?
[23:21] <soren> kgoetz: You going to have to qualify that statement a bit.
[23:21] <kgoetz> soren: at cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/{7.10,8.04,gutsy,feisty,hardy}/* there are only dvd iso's
[23:22] <soren> kgoetz: If you're looking for releases, go to releases.ubuntu.com
[23:23] <kgoetz> soren: thanks.
[23:47] <halcyonCorsair> when is the hardy heron release date, anyone know off the top of their head?
[23:47] <nijaba> April 24
[23:47] <nijaba> halcyonCorsair: ^
[23:48] <nijaba> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[23:49] <halcyonCorsair> yeah, just saw that
[23:49] <halcyonCorsair> cheers
[23:49] <nijaba> faulkes-: how is your starting of a project in LP going?