| theunixgeek | I'm getting a "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" error upon trying to mount my flash drive. What should I do to fix this? | 00:19 |
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| achandrashekar | Hey all..I have more interesting findings about the setup of djcp failover and ldap setup. Specifically as it addresses boot process | 05:18 |
| achandrashekar | if i bring up the second ltsp server before the first, at which time the second has a ldap client connected to the ldap server first it hngs. | 05:19 |
| krsnendu | bnhghq ,ml | 06:55 |
| krsnendu | sorry that was my baby | 06:56 |
| stgraber | ogra__: Edubuntu Add-on amd64/i386 <-- Is that name good for you ? | 07:46 |
| ogra__ | Edubuntu (Ubuntu educational Add-on CD) amd64/i386 | 07:48 |
| ogra__ | something like that | 07:48 |
| ogra__ | rich wants the new name exposed | 07:48 |
| stgraber | ok, I'll see if that name isn't tool long for the tracker UI :) | 07:49 |
| ogra__ | so we can flip it around in intrepid to be "Ubuntu educational addon CD (edubuntu)" | 07:49 |
| ogra__ | well, esle just call it add-on :) | 07:49 |
| ogra__ | *else | 07:49 |
| stgraber | I need to keep "Edubuntu" at the beginning for the tracker though (otherwise it wouldn't be in the menu) | 07:50 |
| stgraber | trying with Edubuntu (Ubuntu educational Add-on) | 07:50 |
| ogra__ | then do as you suggested :) | 07:50 |
| stgraber | keeping "Upgrade Edubuntu" as it is though as it's about upgrading the old Edubuntu and not the new Ubuntu educational thing :) | 07:51 |
| ogra__ | right | 07:52 |
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| jvanrooyen | Hi im busy changing my lts.conf file in edubuntu gutsy for the clients to use 1024x786 resolutions? Did the changes but it stays the same | 09:22 |
| jvanrooyen | I also ran ltsp-update-image after changing | 09:23 |
| jvanrooyen | Still shows the lower resolution | 09:23 |
| jvanrooyen | Can anyone help on this one? | 09:23 |
| coolio | can anyone tell me why the login authentication take so long | 12:01 |
| coolio | infact sometimes it does not recognise the user | 12:01 |
| ogra_cmpc | network saturation ? | 12:02 |
| coolio | ogca: i have 40 terminals on networ, 1ghz between server and switch, terminals 100mb/s | 12:04 |
| ogra_cmpc | whats the HW specs of that server | 12:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | for 40 clients you will need at least 5.5G | 12:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | if the machine is low on ram or has slow disks and is under heavy load, it can happen that sshd times out | 12:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | generally you can look up login issues in /var/log/auth.log ... if you see the attempts in there its not the network ... | 12:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | if you get to the point where the liogin manager goes away and you see a black screen with mouse pointer, thats already gnome-session, so probs with that will be logged in ~/.xsession-errors | 12:12 |
| ogra_cmpc | generally saying "its slow" is like a bugreport that says "doesnt work ",,, you need to give a bit more details | 12:13 |
| coolio | i am checking the log | 12:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | whats the HW specs ? does the server have enough ram ? | 12:14 |
| ogra_cmpc | and if so, do you use a kernel that can handle it | 12:14 |
| coolio | 2 x cpu , 8gb memory | 12:14 |
| ogra_cmpc | and the free command reports all 8gig ? | 12:15 |
| stgraber | ogra: Have you done the seed/package deps change to install italc with LTSP (in place of tcm) ? | 12:19 |
| ogra_cmpc | stgraber, after alpha is out | 12:19 |
| ogra_cmpc | i didnt want to trigger new builds for it | 12:19 |
| ogra_cmpc | so tonight or tomorrow | 12:20 |
| ogra_cmpc | i'm also not sure yet if i want italc-master installed by default or if i just add it to the ship seed | 12:20 |
| ogra_cmpc | -client will go into edubuntu-desktop | 12:21 |
| ogra_cmpc | adding it to -server doesnt seem right either | 12:21 |
| stgraber | ogra_cmpc: I'd make both optional as it'll open two extra ports and one shouldn't do that when directly connected to the internet | 12:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | hmm | 12:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | i'd like the client by default actually | 12:24 |
| stgraber | why ? | 12:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | so the teacher doesnt have to run around and install it everywhere | 12:25 |
| stgraber | it'll have anyway | 12:25 |
| stgraber | as he'll need to install his key on all computers | 12:25 |
| ogra_cmpc | hrm | 12:25 |
| ogra_cmpc | i thought about adding a gconf check to the .desktop file | 12:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | so you could switch it on/off via a gconf key | 12:26 |
| stgraber | the teacher needs to copy the public key from his computer to all of the others, so manual intervention (or scripted intervention) is needed in all cases | 12:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | right, we need a good gui for that in 1.0.7 ;) | 12:27 |
| ogra_cmpc | or 2.0 or whatever he will call the next version :) | 12:27 |
| ogra_cmpc | anyway ... i'd like to have it there by default, it doesnt need to start though ... | 12:30 |
| ogra_cmpc | is ica-launcher upstream ? | 12:30 |
| stgraber | no | 12:33 |
| stgraber | it's the LTSP hack | 12:33 |
| ogra_cmpc | ah, cool | 12:33 |
| ogra_cmpc | that could check for a gconf key | 12:33 |
| stgraber | italc-launcher is the part generating the config file | 12:33 |
| ogra_cmpc | or the kde equivalent :) | 12:34 |
| * ogra_cmpc wonders what the kde equivalent for gconf might be | 12:34 | |
| stgraber | .kde ? not sure of what kind of API they have for it | 12:34 |
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| alumno10 | hi all! | 15:19 |
| alumno10 | how can i umount usb drive in clients, with commands | 15:21 |
| alumno10 | ? | 15:21 |
| alumno10 | hi vistakiller | 15:32 |
| vistakiller | hi | 15:32 |
| alumno10 | ogra_cmpc, do you remember that i had sis7019 sound hardware, which is not longer supported by kernel, since 2.6.14 or so, then i found an usb sound adapter, i want to now if this could be a solution? | 15:34 |
| alumno10 | the specific model is USBG-SV5 | 15:34 |
| alumno10 | *(usb sound adapter model) | 15:35 |
| alumno10 | *the obsolete sis7019 sound hardware is on the clients | 15:37 |
| even | hi there, anyone uses LTSP here ? | 15:40 |
| alumno10 | i do | 15:43 |
| even | alumno10: which interface you uses | 15:46 |
| even | ? | 15:46 |
| alumno10 | X | 15:48 |
| even | hm? | 15:48 |
| even | xfce ? | 15:48 |
| alumno10 | icewm | 15:48 |
| even | hm | 15:49 |
| alumno10 | its pretty light, and loads instantly, the server is 512mbram 1200mhz amd , and clients are 200mhz ebox | 15:52 |
| alumno10 | (11 clients) | 15:52 |
| even | hm 1 got a 8 xeon 1.6 with 6G of ram, i need support how many thins i can | 15:57 |
| even | i'll lunch | 15:58 |
| alumno10 | ok,,, | 16:00 |
| ogra_cmpc | even, you need aboout 128M per running session on the server plus 256M for the server to operate | 16:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | so 1.5G give you 10 clients | 16:14 |
| pygi | ogra, have a sec? | 17:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | grmbl | 17:15 |
| ogra_cmpc | bad day for freenode today it seems | 17:15 |
| LaserJock | started last night for me | 17:15 |
| LaserJock | lot's of netsplits | 17:16 |
| ogra_cmpc | yep | 17:16 |
| ogra_cmpc | there was an operator msg some hours ago | 17:16 |
| ogra_cmpc | but that said they belive the DoS is done | 17:16 |
| ogra_cmpc | doesnt look like though | 17:16 |
| ogra_cmpc | pygi, still alive ? | 17:18 |
| pygi | ogra_cmpc, yup | 17:19 |
| pygi | just wanted to ask is there any edu-related app we would need? :) | 17:19 |
| ogra_cmpc | hey | 17:19 |
| pygi | hey ^_^ | 17:19 |
| ogra_cmpc | not at that state of the release | 17:19 |
| pygi | oh, I know that! But I was thinking to write one as part of SoC | 17:19 |
| ogra_cmpc | we have plenty of CD space though | 17:20 |
| LaserJock | we should have a nice app-review at UDS | 17:20 |
| LaserJock | get an early start on Hardy+1 | 17:20 |
| ogra_cmpc | yeah | 17:20 |
| * LaserJock wants a really good chemistry teaching tool :-) | 17:20 | |
| pygi | oh well, no Edubuntu soc then :) | 17:20 |
| ogra_cmpc | ubuntu educational SoC probably ;) | 17:21 |
| LaserJock | heh | 17:21 |
| pygi | ok, ok, that :P | 17:21 |
| LaserJock | is Ubuntu a mentoring organization again this year? | 17:21 |
| pygi | but with what kind of game/app/tool? :) | 17:21 |
| pygi | LaserJock, as always :p | 17:21 |
| ogra_cmpc | edubuntu as a brand will become only one piece of ubuntu in education | 17:21 |
| pygi | ye, ye, I know | 17:22 |
| ogra_cmpc | and i must say compared to the classromm cd + addon in gutsy, alternate + addon feels a lot cleaner | 17:22 |
| LaserJock | pygi: I kinda wondered if we'd really get anything after the last couple years | 17:23 |
| LaserJock | ogra_cmpc: indeed | 17:23 |
| * ogra_cmpc spent most of the last days with install tests and it looks way more professional as it is now | 17:23 | |
| LaserJock | actually, what about that app-review engine/app that we spec'd out in Sevilla? | 17:23 |
| ogra_cmpc | not as much piecemeal feeling anymore | 17:23 |
| LaserJock | awesome | 17:24 |
| LaserJock | would the app-review thing make a decent SoC project? | 17:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | hmm | 17:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | likely | 17:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | but we should talk to the QA team | 17:24 |
| LaserJock | it's not something one of us is likely to have time for in the near future :-) | 17:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | they probably plan something alike in a bigger view | 17:24 |
| LaserJock | PackageStorm :-) | 17:25 |
| ogra_cmpc | stgraber, do you know if something like an appreview web tool for user feedback is on the QA team todo list ? | 17:25 |
| ogra_cmpc | sounds somewhat like it would fall into the QA area | 17:26 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 17:26 |
| LaserJock | although as spec'd it would be a bit more | 17:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | right | 17:26 |
| LaserJock | but yeah, QA's seems to be doing that kind of stuff | 17:27 |
| LaserJock | anyway, I think that'd probably make a good SoC | 17:27 |
| ogra_cmpc | yeah | 17:27 |
| LaserJock | I tend to think having SoC people write entirely new apps for Edubuntu is kind of a waste | 17:28 |
| LaserJock | we don't do a lot of app development to start with ;-) | 17:28 |
| LaserJock | other than maybe if somebody wanted to do some sort of LTSP project | 17:28 |
| pygi | LaserJock, you mean as in good proposals? | 17:28 |
| LaserJock | pygi: yeah | 17:29 |
| * pygi doesnt even have an idea what that is | 17:29 | |
| pygi | LaserJock, what kind of user feedback app are you hunting for? | 17:29 |
| ogra_cmpc | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuApplicationReview | 17:30 |
| pygi | or in other words, where do I see the specs/ | 17:31 |
| pygi | ? | 17:31 |
| ogra_cmpc | the spec is "something similar to the wine appdb" with the scope of the spec above focusing on ubuntu arcvive as backbone | 17:33 |
| mario_ | ergh | 17:34 |
| mario_ | damn connection | 17:34 |
| stgraber | ogra_cmpc: define app review ? | 17:34 |
| ogra_cmpc | stgraber, see the spec page above | 17:35 |
| stgraber | ogra_cmpc: mvo asked for some kind of improved packages.ubuntu.com where users could vote for their favourite packages and vote for them | 17:35 |
| ogra_cmpc | something similar to the wine appdb page | 17:35 |
| ogra_cmpc | right if we get that sortable by category and we could have an edu section that would be perfect | 17:36 |
| ogra_cmpc | what we thought of was actually a bit more | 17:36 |
| ogra_cmpc | like a screenshot per app etc | 17:36 |
| ogra_cmpc | and a review system that allows commenting | 17:36 |
| stgraber | well, the idea of mvo was to use the code we did for http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and use it for packages | 17:36 |
| ogra_cmpc | right | 17:37 |
| stgraber | so it'd be the same as brainstorm.u.c except that we would have all the packages in the DB | 17:37 |
| stgraber | and use apt's category or something similar for sorting | 17:37 |
| ogra_cmpc | the brainstorm release actually remineded me of the old spec :) | 17:37 |
| pygi | stgraber, isnt that just an addition to brainstorm.u.c code then? | 17:37 |
| ogra_cmpc | or rather of the fact that this belongs in QA | 17:37 |
| pygi | (if that's open source?) | 17:38 |
| stgraber | we'll have an Ubuntu QA and Ubuntu Brainstorm session at FOSSCamp | 17:38 |
| stgraber | pygi: brainstorm.ubuntu.com (open source) is one of the Ubuntu QA modules for Drupal | 17:38 |
| stgraber | pygi: it's in fact the same website as iso.qa.ubuntu.com and qa.ubuntu.com | 17:38 |
| ogra_cmpc | great, i'll attend (i think ... not sure i'm planned for fosscamp this time) | 17:38 |
| stgraber | Nicolas and myself will only be at FOSSCamp no UDS for me this time :) | 17:39 |
| ogra_cmpc | oh :( | 17:39 |
| stgraber | well, I have exams the same week as UDS :( | 17:40 |
| ogra_cmpc | prague is so nice, you should consider adding one or two vacation days, its cheap there | 17:40 |
| ogra_cmpc | gah | 17:40 |
| stgraber | yes ... bad timing :) | 17:41 |
| ogra_cmpc | will be a strange uds ... the first time since sydney without jim and scott ... | 17:41 |
| ogra_cmpc | in boston we had at least scottie | 17:42 |
| mrunagi | NOT IF THE FUCKING SHOULD LISTEN | 17:58 |
| mrunagi | OR IF THEY ARE GOD DAMN RIGHT! | 17:58 |
| mrunagi | FUCK THE GOD DAMN OPS! | 17:58 |
| mrunagi | EVERY ONE OF THEM! | 17:58 |
| mrunagi | I HOPE YOU ALL FUCKING DIE GOD DAMN LOSERS! | 17:58 |
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| * ogra doesnt want to die ,,, | 18:00 | |
| alumno10 | hi all | 18:00 |
| alumno10 | hey, edubuntu feisty, uses ltsp5 right? | 18:55 |
| alumno10 | and according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/187879 | 18:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 187879 in linux-source-2.6.22 "ac97_codec module and symbols missing, some OSS modules can't load [undefined symbol ac97_probe_codec]" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 18:55 |
| alumno10 | sis7019 might work ? | 18:56 |
| * ogra wont attend the meeting tonight ... see you all tomorrow ... | 18:58 | |
| stgraber | hmm, ok ... see you | 18:58 |
| alumno10 | bye ogra | 18:59 |
| ogra | stgraber, rich will run a short one though | 19:00 |
| stgraber | k | 19:00 |
| alumno10 | hey, edubuntu feisty, uses ltsp5 right? | 19:28 |
| alumno10 | and feisty has sis7019 support too right?? | 19:31 |
| alumno10 | analfabeta | 19:33 |
| analfabeta | hi | 19:33 |
| alumno10 | hola | 19:33 |
| elisboa | all | 19:46 |
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| === evne is now known as even | ||
| RichEd | == edubuntu meeting == in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 mins == | 19:56 |
| RichEd | who's here for the meeting ? | 19:56 |
| RichEd | ogra is not available tonight | 19:56 |
| RichEd | hi LaserJock | 20:00 |
| RichEd | ogra is not here for the meeting tonight :( so no tech | 20:00 |
| RichEd | and i have a small crisis at home i am dealing with | 20:00 |
| RichEd | did you or stgraber or anyone else have any major pressing issues ? | 20:00 |
| LaserJock | I don't think so | 20:02 |
| LaserJock | squeak isn't going all that well | 20:02 |
| LaserJock | but I'm trying to figure out a way to get it to work | 20:02 |
| RichEd | i really need to attend to my issue at home ... so if anyone pops up, let them know we're not holding any formal discussion tonight | 20:03 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: oh, Google Summer of Code is starting up again. We might want to give some thought to any useful projects | 20:03 |
| LaserJock | will do | 20:03 |
| RichEd | could you run it then ? | 20:03 |
| LaserJock | run what? | 20:03 |
| dcsquare | is edubuntu a version of ubuntu with the educational apps added? Or the difference is bigger? | 20:03 |
| RichEd | thanks ... pop in to the channel, raise the topic and see as a sidebar if anyone is around for comment or discussion | 20:03 |
| RichEd | i'll check logs from my window tomorrow for any follow up | 20:04 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: don't worry, we got your back ;-) | 20:04 |
| RichEd | thanks mate | 20:04 |
| RichEd | appraciated | 20:04 |
| LaserJock | dcsquare: somewhat bigger | 20:04 |
| LaserJock | dcsquare: a heavy target use case for Edubuntu is classroom LTSP servers | 20:05 |
| LaserJock | Edubuntu has been going through some changes recently | 20:05 |
| LaserJock | where LTSP itself has moved to the Ubuntu Alternate CD | 20:05 |
| LaserJock | and now we'll ship an Ubuntu Education Addon CD that has the educational apps and misc goodies | 20:06 |
| LaserJock | for 8.04 | 20:06 |
| dcsquare | I really like the games for my 4 year old, but I want to be able to use the computer as a "normal" computer too | 20:06 |
| LaserJock | sure | 20:07 |
| LaserJock | that's no problem | 20:07 |
| dcsquare | for the moment i have ubuntu installed, and I tried edubuntu from the desktop cd | 20:07 |
| LaserJock | what version of Ubuntu do you have installed? | 20:07 |
| dcsquare | 7.10 | 20:07 |
| LaserJock | k | 20:07 |
| LaserJock | what you might want to do is grab the Edubuntu Classroom Server Addon CD | 20:08 |
| * stgraber waves | 20:08 | |
| dcsquare | I didn't see any major differences, but I thought I should ask first | 20:08 |
| LaserJock | in your Ubuntu install you can pop that CD in and it'll give you some option for installing the edu apps | 20:08 |
| LaserJock | without messing up your Ubuntu install | 20:08 |
| dcsquare | cool :) | 20:09 |
| LaserJock | and it has more stuff than the Desktop CD has | 20:09 |
| dcsquare | so I can make my daughter happy and keep my amp and eclipse :) | 20:09 |
| LaserJock | my guess is that gcompris and tuxpaint would be real good apps | 20:09 |
| LaserJock | yep | 20:09 |
| dcsquare | thank you very much | 20:10 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 20:10 |
| LaserJock | another thing you can do | 20:10 |
| LaserJock | if you don't want to download the whole CD | 20:10 |
| LaserJock | is there are some metapackages that start with edubuntu-addon- | 20:11 |
| dcsquare | I don't mind downloading the CD | 20:11 |
| LaserJock | edubuntu-addon-young might be appropriate | 20:11 |
| LaserJock | ok, that's cool | 20:11 |
| dcsquare | I'm on a decent connection | 20:11 |
| LaserJock | let's you play around more | 20:11 |
| dcsquare | thank you for your time | 20:12 |
| LaserJock | no problem | 20:12 |
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