[00:19] I'm getting a "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" error upon trying to mount my flash drive. What should I do to fix this? === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying === Bambi_BOFH is now known as kgoetz [05:18] Hey all..I have more interesting findings about the setup of djcp failover and ldap setup. Specifically as it addresses boot process [05:19] if i bring up the second ltsp server before the first, at which time the second has a ldap client connected to the ldap server first it hngs. [06:55] bnhghq ,ml [06:56] sorry that was my baby [07:46] ogra__: Edubuntu Add-on amd64/i386 <-- Is that name good for you ? [07:48] Edubuntu (Ubuntu educational Add-on CD) amd64/i386 [07:48] something like that [07:48] rich wants the new name exposed [07:49] ok, I'll see if that name isn't tool long for the tracker UI :) [07:49] so we can flip it around in intrepid to be "Ubuntu educational addon CD (edubuntu)" [07:49] well, esle just call it add-on :) [07:49] *else [07:50] I need to keep "Edubuntu" at the beginning for the tracker though (otherwise it wouldn't be in the menu) [07:50] trying with Edubuntu (Ubuntu educational Add-on) [07:50] then do as you suggested :) [07:51] keeping "Upgrade Edubuntu" as it is though as it's about upgrading the old Edubuntu and not the new Ubuntu educational thing :) [07:52] right === ogra__ is now known as ogra [09:22] Hi im busy changing my lts.conf file in edubuntu gutsy for the clients to use 1024x786 resolutions? Did the changes but it stays the same [09:23] I also ran ltsp-update-image after changing [09:23] Still shows the lower resolution [09:23] Can anyone help on this one? [12:01] can anyone tell me why the login authentication take so long [12:01] infact sometimes it does not recognise the user [12:02] network saturation ? [12:04] ogca: i have 40 terminals on networ, 1ghz between server and switch, terminals 100mb/s [12:08] whats the HW specs of that server [12:09] for 40 clients you will need at least 5.5G [12:10] if the machine is low on ram or has slow disks and is under heavy load, it can happen that sshd times out [12:11] generally you can look up login issues in /var/log/auth.log ... if you see the attempts in there its not the network ... [12:12] if you get to the point where the liogin manager goes away and you see a black screen with mouse pointer, thats already gnome-session, so probs with that will be logged in ~/.xsession-errors [12:13] generally saying "its slow" is like a bugreport that says "doesnt work ",,, you need to give a bit more details [12:13] i am checking the log [12:14] whats the HW specs ? does the server have enough ram ? [12:14] and if so, do you use a kernel that can handle it [12:14] 2 x cpu , 8gb memory [12:15] and the free command reports all 8gig ? [12:19] ogra: Have you done the seed/package deps change to install italc with LTSP (in place of tcm) ? [12:19] stgraber, after alpha is out [12:19] i didnt want to trigger new builds for it [12:20] so tonight or tomorrow [12:20] i'm also not sure yet if i want italc-master installed by default or if i just add it to the ship seed [12:21] -client will go into edubuntu-desktop [12:21] adding it to -server doesnt seem right either [12:24] ogra_cmpc: I'd make both optional as it'll open two extra ports and one shouldn't do that when directly connected to the internet [12:24] hmm [12:24] i'd like the client by default actually [12:24] why ? [12:25] so the teacher doesnt have to run around and install it everywhere [12:25] it'll have anyway [12:25] as he'll need to install his key on all computers [12:25] hrm [12:26] i thought about adding a gconf check to the .desktop file [12:26] so you could switch it on/off via a gconf key [12:26] the teacher needs to copy the public key from his computer to all of the others, so manual intervention (or scripted intervention) is needed in all cases [12:27] right, we need a good gui for that in 1.0.7 ;) [12:27] or 2.0 or whatever he will call the next version :) [12:30] anyway ... i'd like to have it there by default, it doesnt need to start though ... [12:30] is ica-launcher upstream ? [12:33] no [12:33] it's the LTSP hack [12:33] ah, cool [12:33] that could check for a gconf key [12:33] italc-launcher is the part generating the config file [12:34] or the kde equivalent :) [12:34] * ogra_cmpc wonders what the kde equivalent for gconf might be [12:34] .kde ? not sure of what kind of API they have for it === ubotu is now known as ubotu` === ubotu` is now known as ubotu [15:19] hi all! [15:21] how can i umount usb drive in clients, with commands [15:21] ? [15:32] hi vistakiller [15:32] hi [15:34] ogra_cmpc, do you remember that i had sis7019 sound hardware, which is not longer supported by kernel, since 2.6.14 or so, then i found an usb sound adapter, i want to now if this could be a solution? [15:34] the specific model is USBG-SV5 [15:35] *(usb sound adapter model) [15:37] *the obsolete sis7019 sound hardware is on the clients [15:40] hi there, anyone uses LTSP here ? [15:43] i do [15:46] alumno10: which interface you uses [15:46] ? [15:48] X [15:48] hm? [15:48] xfce ? [15:48] icewm [15:49] hm [15:52] its pretty light, and loads instantly, the server is 512mbram 1200mhz amd , and clients are 200mhz ebox [15:52] (11 clients) [15:57] hm 1 got a 8 xeon 1.6 with 6G of ram, i need support how many thins i can [15:58] i'll lunch [16:00] ok,,, [16:13] even, you need aboout 128M per running session on the server plus 256M for the server to operate [16:14] so 1.5G give you 10 clients [17:09] ogra, have a sec? [17:15] grmbl [17:15] bad day for freenode today it seems [17:15] started last night for me [17:16] lot's of netsplits [17:16] yep [17:16] there was an operator msg some hours ago [17:16] but that said they belive the DoS is done [17:16] doesnt look like though [17:18] pygi, still alive ? [17:19] ogra_cmpc, yup [17:19] just wanted to ask is there any edu-related app we would need? :) [17:19] hey [17:19] hey ^_^ [17:19] not at that state of the release [17:19] oh, I know that! But I was thinking to write one as part of SoC [17:20] we have plenty of CD space though [17:20] we should have a nice app-review at UDS [17:20] get an early start on Hardy+1 [17:20] yeah [17:20] * LaserJock wants a really good chemistry teaching tool :-) [17:20] oh well, no Edubuntu soc then :) [17:21] ubuntu educational SoC probably ;) [17:21] heh [17:21] ok, ok, that :P [17:21] is Ubuntu a mentoring organization again this year? [17:21] but with what kind of game/app/tool? :) [17:21] LaserJock, as always :p [17:21] edubuntu as a brand will become only one piece of ubuntu in education [17:22] ye, ye, I know [17:22] and i must say compared to the classromm cd + addon in gutsy, alternate + addon feels a lot cleaner [17:23] pygi: I kinda wondered if we'd really get anything after the last couple years [17:23] ogra_cmpc: indeed [17:23] * ogra_cmpc spent most of the last days with install tests and it looks way more professional as it is now [17:23] actually, what about that app-review engine/app that we spec'd out in Sevilla? [17:23] not as much piecemeal feeling anymore [17:24] awesome [17:24] would the app-review thing make a decent SoC project? [17:24] hmm [17:24] likely [17:24] but we should talk to the QA team [17:24] it's not something one of us is likely to have time for in the near future :-) [17:24] they probably plan something alike in a bigger view [17:25] PackageStorm :-) [17:25] stgraber, do you know if something like an appreview web tool for user feedback is on the QA team todo list ? [17:26] sounds somewhat like it would fall into the QA area [17:26] yeah [17:26] although as spec'd it would be a bit more [17:26] right [17:27] but yeah, QA's seems to be doing that kind of stuff [17:27] anyway, I think that'd probably make a good SoC [17:27] yeah [17:28] I tend to think having SoC people write entirely new apps for Edubuntu is kind of a waste [17:28] we don't do a lot of app development to start with ;-) [17:28] other than maybe if somebody wanted to do some sort of LTSP project [17:28] LaserJock, you mean as in good proposals? [17:29] pygi: yeah [17:29] * pygi doesnt even have an idea what that is [17:29] LaserJock, what kind of user feedback app are you hunting for? [17:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuApplicationReview [17:31] or in other words, where do I see the specs/ [17:31] ? [17:33] the spec is "something similar to the wine appdb" with the scope of the spec above focusing on ubuntu arcvive as backbone [17:34] ergh [17:34] damn connection [17:34] ogra_cmpc: define app review ? [17:35] stgraber, see the spec page above [17:35] ogra_cmpc: mvo asked for some kind of improved packages.ubuntu.com where users could vote for their favourite packages and vote for them [17:35] something similar to the wine appdb page [17:36] right if we get that sortable by category and we could have an edu section that would be perfect [17:36] what we thought of was actually a bit more [17:36] like a screenshot per app etc [17:36] and a review system that allows commenting [17:36] well, the idea of mvo was to use the code we did for http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and use it for packages [17:37] right [17:37] so it'd be the same as brainstorm.u.c except that we would have all the packages in the DB [17:37] and use apt's category or something similar for sorting [17:37] the brainstorm release actually remineded me of the old spec :) [17:37] stgraber, isnt that just an addition to brainstorm.u.c code then? [17:37] or rather of the fact that this belongs in QA [17:38] (if that's open source?) [17:38] we'll have an Ubuntu QA and Ubuntu Brainstorm session at FOSSCamp [17:38] pygi: brainstorm.ubuntu.com (open source) is one of the Ubuntu QA modules for Drupal [17:38] pygi: it's in fact the same website as iso.qa.ubuntu.com and qa.ubuntu.com [17:38] great, i'll attend (i think ... not sure i'm planned for fosscamp this time) [17:39] Nicolas and myself will only be at FOSSCamp no UDS for me this time :) [17:39] oh :( [17:40] well, I have exams the same week as UDS :( [17:40] prague is so nice, you should consider adding one or two vacation days, its cheap there [17:40] gah [17:41] yes ... bad timing :) [17:41] will be a strange uds ... the first time since sydney without jim and scott ... [17:42] in boston we had at least scottie [17:58] NOT IF THE FUCKING SHOULD LISTEN [17:58] OR IF THEY ARE GOD DAMN RIGHT! [17:58] FUCK THE GOD DAMN OPS! [17:58] EVERY ONE OF THEM! [17:58] I HOPE YOU ALL FUCKING DIE GOD DAMN LOSERS! === ogra_cmpc is now known as ogra [18:00] * ogra doesnt want to die ,,, [18:00] hi all [18:55] hey, edubuntu feisty, uses ltsp5 right? [18:55] and according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/187879 [18:55] Launchpad bug 187879 in linux-source-2.6.22 "ac97_codec module and symbols missing, some OSS modules can't load [undefined symbol ac97_probe_codec]" [Undecided,Won't fix] [18:56] sis7019 might work ? [18:58] * ogra wont attend the meeting tonight ... see you all tomorrow ... [18:58] hmm, ok ... see you [18:59] bye ogra [19:00] stgraber, rich will run a short one though [19:00] k [19:28] hey, edubuntu feisty, uses ltsp5 right? [19:31] and feisty has sis7019 support too right?? [19:33] analfabeta [19:33] hi [19:33] hola [19:46] all === analfabeta is now known as evne === evne is now known as even [19:56] == edubuntu meeting == in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 mins == [19:56] who's here for the meeting ? [19:56] ogra is not available tonight [20:00] hi LaserJock [20:00] ogra is not here for the meeting tonight :( so no tech [20:00] and i have a small crisis at home i am dealing with [20:00] did you or stgraber or anyone else have any major pressing issues ? [20:02] I don't think so [20:02] squeak isn't going all that well [20:02] but I'm trying to figure out a way to get it to work [20:03] i really need to attend to my issue at home ... so if anyone pops up, let them know we're not holding any formal discussion tonight [20:03] RichEd: oh, Google Summer of Code is starting up again. We might want to give some thought to any useful projects [20:03] will do [20:03] could you run it then ? [20:03] run what? [20:03] is edubuntu a version of ubuntu with the educational apps added? Or the difference is bigger? [20:03] thanks ... pop in to the channel, raise the topic and see as a sidebar if anyone is around for comment or discussion [20:04] i'll check logs from my window tomorrow for any follow up [20:04] RichEd: don't worry, we got your back ;-) [20:04] thanks mate [20:04] appraciated [20:04] dcsquare: somewhat bigger [20:05] dcsquare: a heavy target use case for Edubuntu is classroom LTSP servers [20:05] Edubuntu has been going through some changes recently [20:05] where LTSP itself has moved to the Ubuntu Alternate CD [20:06] and now we'll ship an Ubuntu Education Addon CD that has the educational apps and misc goodies [20:06] for 8.04 [20:06] I really like the games for my 4 year old, but I want to be able to use the computer as a "normal" computer too [20:07] sure [20:07] that's no problem [20:07] for the moment i have ubuntu installed, and I tried edubuntu from the desktop cd [20:07] what version of Ubuntu do you have installed? [20:07] 7.10 [20:07] k [20:08] what you might want to do is grab the Edubuntu Classroom Server Addon CD [20:08] * stgraber waves [20:08] I didn't see any major differences, but I thought I should ask first [20:08] in your Ubuntu install you can pop that CD in and it'll give you some option for installing the edu apps [20:08] without messing up your Ubuntu install [20:09] cool :) [20:09] and it has more stuff than the Desktop CD has [20:09] so I can make my daughter happy and keep my amp and eclipse :) [20:09] my guess is that gcompris and tuxpaint would be real good apps [20:09] yep [20:10] thank you very much [20:10] hmm [20:10] another thing you can do [20:10] if you don't want to download the whole CD [20:11] is there are some metapackages that start with edubuntu-addon- [20:11] I don't mind downloading the CD [20:11] edubuntu-addon-young might be appropriate [20:11] ok, that's cool [20:11] I'm on a decent connection [20:11] let's you play around more [20:12] thank you for your time [20:12] no problem