[00:11] <Riddell> hmm, we don't seem to have packages of qbzr
[00:11] <yuriy> also, shouldn't bzr be installed by default?
[00:12]  * yuriy just noticed because he was installing 5-a-day
[00:13] <Riddell> 4MB, that's more space than we can afford for a developer tool
[00:15] <yuriy> not that I think it should be, more just that i thought it was part of a base ubuntu install since it's sabdfl's favorite toy
[00:17] <Riddell> oh i think it should be
[00:17] <Riddell> but there's not enough space for desktop stuff never mind developer stuff
[00:19] <nixternal> oh my, 4.0.2 == garbage
[00:21] <Artimus> nixternal: Wasn't that just uploaded to Hardy?
[00:22] <Riddell> uh oh
[00:22] <Riddell> what's wrong with it?
[00:22] <nixternal> Riddell: plasma is silly buggy, the panel resize doesn't work correctly...
[00:23] <nixternal> I had to ctrl+alt+backspace 4 times before I had a useable desktop
[00:23] <Artimus> From my quick experience with it, it seemed a little better.  Desktop Effects murder my desktop slightly less now.  I'm not 100% convinced this isn't my Xorg setup or graphics card's fault.
[00:23] <nixternal> I rm -rf ~/.kde4
[00:23] <nixternal> seemed to have made things worse
[00:23] <Artimus> I've only killed Plasma once.  I was reminded of an Explorer.exe crash
[00:23] <nixternal> lol
[00:23] <nixternal> exactly
[00:23] <Artimus> In my defense, I was probably doing something dumb
[00:24] <nixternal> plasma never crashed, but it went all white a few times
[00:24] <Artimus> Well, not in my defense.
[00:24] <Artimus> In KDE's defense
[00:24] <nixternal> or it stayed all black
[00:24] <Artimus> Wait, you can resize the panel?
[00:24] <yuriy> hmm, i haven't had any of these issues yet. maybe nvidia is saving plasma more than eating it
[00:24] <nixternal> ya, but I would recommend against it
[00:24] <Artimus> yuriy: Do you have desktop effects on?
[00:24] <yuriy> Artimus: yeah
[00:25] <nixternal> desktop effects are much smoother and faster with 4.0.2
[00:25] <Artimus> yuriy: Any custom xorg.conf hackery?
[00:25] <yuriy> Artimus: hmm i don't think so, just using the nvidia driver
[00:26] <yuriy> i only used 4.0.2 for a little while on my other machine, i still need to restart this session and see how it works out
[00:26] <yuriy> but i just saw bug 198362 and bug 198470, which aren't *too* bad. resizing the panel and such worked
[00:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198362 in kdebase-workspace "[KDE4] Upgrade to 4.0.2. -> Panel is not displayed properly" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198362
[00:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198470 in kdebase-workspace "wallpaper broken in plasma in kde 4.0.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198470
[00:27] <Artimus> I'm not sure how to describe what was happening when I enabled desktop effects...  I'd see "dead" windows.  If I moved a window, it'd still appear rendered on the screen when the window was elsewhere.  Nvidia card...
[00:27] <Artimus> I should probably turn them off and mess around with the rest of KDE4 for a while.
[00:28] <yuriy> Artimus: that's with the proprietary driver?
[00:28] <Artimus> yuriy: yeah
[00:28] <Artimus> I also tried turning on Composite with some instructions.  It made no difference.
[00:28] <Artimus> I'll probably go back to the default settings and try it again.
[00:29] <yuriy> on a related note, has bulletproof X been implemented for kdm?
[00:30] <yuriy> after a kernel update, i restarted x but not the machine and got a cannot start displayconfig-gtk message
[00:32] <Riddell> yuriy: yes, that's bulletproof X
[00:32] <Riddell> the scripts still need to be modified to test for and run displayconfig or something else if available
[00:40] <jjesse> evening
[00:41] <Jucato> good evening jjesse
[00:42] <jjesse> morning Jucato
[00:42] <jjesse> how are things for u?
[00:42] <Jucato> doing ok. nervously waiting (for 2 months) for word on my application to college :)
[00:42] <jjesse> i saw that on your blog, good luck
[00:42] <Jucato> thans
[00:42] <Jucato> thanks*
[00:51] <nixternal> argh that kdiamond game is addicting
[00:51] <Jucato> hehehe
[00:51] <jjesse> haha
[00:51] <jjesse> hrm hotel is blocking some of my vpn connection :(
[00:51] <Jucato> that's the bejeweled clone right?
[00:51] <nixternal> I guess
[00:52] <nixternal> waiting for qt-copy to finish compiling
[00:52] <jjesse> grin
[00:52] <nixternal> qt-copy sub-src that is
[00:52] <Jucato> there are 2 more game clones I'm looking for in Linux: Bookworm and Text Twist
[00:52] <nixternal> after sub-src comes sub-tools
[00:52] <jjesse> nixternal: i was in o'hare this morning at 5:30 :(
[00:52] <jjesse> on my way to harford
[00:52] <nixternal> that sucks, I was in bed by O'Hare at 5:30 :p
[00:53]  * nixternal needs food
[00:53] <nixternal> back in a few
[00:53] <Artimus> Jucato: Yeah, it is.  And I thought Frozen Bubble killed time.
[00:54] <Jucato> kdiamond is the new frozen bubble :)
[00:54] <Hobbsee> mmm....frozen bubble...
[00:54] <Hobbsee> mmmm
[00:54] <Hobbsee> that looks fun too
[00:54] <Artimus> I don't know, the game seems kind of laggy on my box
[00:54] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!! :)
[00:55] <Jucato> there were problems with kdiamond. aseigo blogged about it
[00:55] <Artimus> I'm not familiar wth aseigo's or anyone else's blogs...
[00:56] <Artimus> (I'm always looking for more, though.  I've recently started using RSS more)
[00:56] <nixternal> damn food isn't ready
[00:56] <nixternal> smelled like it was
[00:57] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato!
[00:57]  * Hobbsee likes gweled, though
[00:57]  * nosrednaekim is watching the error messages as he upgrades from dapper to hardy... or attempts to
[00:58] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: I mourn for your install
[00:58] <Hobbsee> it's known to be broken.
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> this is a separate partition :)
[00:58] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Didn't want to jump a few times?
[00:58] <jjesse> grumble vm is not starting up today :(
[00:58] <yuriy> Artimus: planetkde.org
[01:00] <Jucato> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/02/animating-lots-of-things-simultaneously.html <-- about kdiamond
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> uh oh... now its wanting 20MB of stuff... I hate doing this on dial-up. :)
[01:03] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Are you  keeping notes on what's dying?
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> nothing has "died" yet actually
[01:04] <yuriy> nosrednaekim: you're dist-upgrading on dial-up? :O
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> yuriy: apt-get dist-upgrade -qq --force-yes --print-uris does wonders :)
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> ok....goin back to my gutsy install...
[01:24] <nixternal> hrmm, kpovmodeler-kde4 and rsibreak-kde4 were both kicked back with md5 issues...that wasn't right..the md5sums are the same and correct
[01:25] <Jucato> head <- palm
[01:25]  * Jucato is beginning to hate kword's frames...
[01:25] <nixternal> hehe
[03:03]  * ryanakca loves netsplits :)
[05:30] <nixternal> what is wrong with this stinkin' network tonight?
[05:31] <dasSKreech> It's smelly?
[05:34] <nixternal> that it is
[06:20] <dasSKreech> nixternal: network has been freaking for a while
[06:20] <nixternal> damn, I thought we were in here
[06:20] <nixternal> had me talking in the other chan
[06:20] <dasSKreech> :)
[06:21] <dasSKreech> stephaniewhiting doesn't hang in here too often
[06:22] <nixternal> mmmm Guiness is the bestest!
[06:25] <dasSKreech> Hows class?
[06:26] <dasSKreech> oh nixternal can you change resolution in System Settings?
[06:26] <nixternal> ya
[06:27] <nixternal> class is kicking my arse
[06:28] <nixternal> hrmm, I think I am going to create a customized skin for my laptop... maybe a little Kubuntu and KDE flavor
[06:28] <dasSKreech> Hmm nothing I do will give me the apply option for my desktop
[06:29] <dasSKreech> nixternal: stick it on brain storm!!
[06:29] <nixternal> keep restarting X...it will eventually allow you to apply
[06:29] <nixternal> ya, 4.0.2 seems to be a slight regression thus far
[06:29] <dasSKreech> that's brilliant
[06:29] <dasSKreech> I haven't seen a changelog for it
[06:30] <dasSKreech> Course I didn't know it was out
[06:30] <dasSKreech> I thought it was shipping Wednesday
[06:30] <nixternal> kde 4 from trunk is great though
[06:30] <dasSKreech> !info akregator-kde4 hardy
[06:30] <nixternal> as long as you don't try to build on a monday that is :)
[06:30] <ubotu> Package akregator-kde4 does not exist in hardy
[06:30] <dasSKreech> yes yes stop rubbing in the lack of ppa builds already
[06:33] <nixternal> wth, we have 6 kdm patches in kdebase
[06:33] <nixternal> 7
[06:35]  * dasSKreech laughs at aseigo's latest blog
[06:38] <dasSKreech> Right let me make a SoC suggestion pre bed
[06:39] <dasSKreech> nixternal: so no idea if it's actual regressions or packaging issues?
[06:39] <nixternal> don't know yet
[06:41] <dasSKreech> ooh can I put strikethroughs for Kubuntu SoC ideas that have been shot down?
[06:41] <nixternal> I tried, there aren't strikethroughs on our blog
[06:42] <dasSKreech> blast
[06:42] <nixternal> we need some real SoC ideas, then I might apply for one
[06:42] <nixternal> then again, I think it is bad for me to do that
[06:42] <nixternal> I would rather get fresh blood in to do it
[06:44] <dasSKreech> you could mentor
[06:45] <nixternal> I want to work on some coding...thought about getting involved in a different project though
[06:45] <nixternal> need to see how the applications go this time around
[06:47] <nixternal> I don't see any patches that are out of place that could be a problem
[06:50] <nixternal> heh, I said there aren't strike throughs on our blog...I mean wiki :)
[06:51] <apachelogger> hoy
[06:51] <nixternal> what's up apachelogger
[06:52] <apachelogger> my maths professor just suggested to throw chalk at us if we don't stop talking about KDE
[06:53] <apachelogger> pffft, gnome users are so unfriendly -.-
[06:53] <dasSKreech> Khalk ?
[06:53] <dasSKreech> apachelogger: give them the Boot!
[06:53] <dasSKreech> where would kipi be in the svn ?
[06:53] <apachelogger> extragear
[06:54] <apachelogger> either graphics or libs
[06:54] <dasSKreech> Extragear?
[06:54] <dasSKreech> ok
[06:57] <nixternal> OMG
[06:57] <apachelogger> what happened?
[06:58] <apachelogger> other than kde4libs for gutsy is still not built -.-
[06:59] <apachelogger> 143 language packs to go
[06:59] <stdin> wooh, language packs are fun :p
[06:59] <nixternal> I made a HUGE n00b mistake
[07:00] <apachelogger> stdin: I tend to don't like them anymore
[07:00] <Hobbsee> hah
[07:00] <Hobbsee> which one?  :)
[07:00] <nixternal> and nobody even caught the n00b mistake in revu
[07:00] <apachelogger> we are providing free breakage for our KDE 4
[07:00] <nixternal> shame on you revu'rz
[07:00] <apachelogger> Hobbsee: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive/+builds
[07:00] <nixternal> apachelogger: kpovmodeler-kde4, my f'n binary was named kpovmodeler...d'oh! can't do that, we already have a kpovmodeler
[07:00] <dasSKreech> Hobbsee: Hey you still hang out here :)
[07:00] <nixternal> thank god our archive is smart
[07:01] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: yummy
[07:01] <apachelogger> yeah, blocking soyuz for half a day now :S
[07:01] <apachelogger> nixternal: omg, indeed!
[07:01] <stdin> apachelogger: I swear they wait until we want to do a release before doing that, every single kde release (from the alphas to 4.0.1) they have decided to do that...
[07:01] <nixternal> apachelogger: you didn't catch it either in revu, shame on you :p
[07:02] <apachelogger> nixternal: omg!!!!
[07:02] <nixternal> that was a couple of months ago
[07:02] <apachelogger> did I advocate?
[07:02] <nixternal> apachelogger: you aren't the only one, lets say a core-dev didn't catch it either
[07:02] <apachelogger> stdin: maybe we should talk to them
[07:02] <nixternal> apachelogger: yup
[07:02] <apachelogger> nixternal: ok, that is pretty bad
[07:02] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: wouldn't surprise me
[07:02] <nixternal> ya, but I created that horrid booboo...live and learn..thank god it didn't turn out worse
[07:03]  * apachelogger adds an item to his checklist for revus
[07:03] <dasSKreech> nixternal: gnome-init
[07:03] <nixternal> luckily the version for kpovmodeler-kde4 is < kpovmodeler
[07:03] <stdin> apachelogger: and say what? "please don't kill the PPA buildds for over a day, kthxbye"?
[07:04] <apachelogger> stdin: well, if we can preannounce KDE releases to them, so they can delay their builds until we pushed KDE in
[07:04] <apachelogger> if they are willing to do that at all
[07:05]  * dasSKreech did a search for kipi and got fully distracted by a cosplayer
[07:06] <stdin> besides, "them" seems to just be Martin Pitt, and recently Arne Goetje (arnegoetje). the real problem with it is not just the number of packages, but that they are only built on the i386 buildds, so other archs start to build then ftbfs needed a manual re-queueing
[07:06] <stdin> so while the language packs build, we get no -dev packages built
[07:06]  * Hobbsee resists ranting
[07:07] <Hobbsee> stdin: if it's just a couple of packages, i can reprio them
[07:07] <apachelogger> nomnom
[07:07] <Hobbsee> particularly if it's only i386
[07:07] <apachelogger> Hobbsee: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=pending
[07:07] <dasSKreech> apachelogger: You understand kipi?
[07:07] <stdin> Hobbsee: we really just need kde4libs on 386 built, so it stops depending on libgif for gutsy
[07:07] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: you need kde4libs?  yeah, OK
[07:08] <dasSKreech> what does the wallpaper plugin do?
[07:08] <dasSKreech> it seems to manage the KDE wallpaper
[07:08] <apachelogger> Hobbsee: yep, most important
[07:08] <nixternal> dasSKreech: allows you to set your wallpaper
[07:08] <nixternal> from a kipi enabled application
[07:08]  * Hobbsee bumps
[07:08] <nixternal> damn enter key
[07:08] <apachelogger> currently kdelibs5 will beak or best case not install
[07:08] <Hobbsee> thank goodness for greasemonkey, even if i can't use buildd.py
[07:08] <dasSKreech> nixternal: hmm ok and the slideshow plugin does slideshows of images
[07:08] <nixternal> yes
[07:08]  * stdin hails the stick'o'buildd-bumps
[07:08] <Hobbsee> saves one click
[07:08] <nixternal> which is now fixed cuz of me :)
[07:09] <dasSKreech> but it's not plugable
[07:09]  * Hobbsee hates the fact that there is *no* global build queue for ppa
[07:09] <nixternal> Hobbsee: I deserve massive stick abuse for my horrible mistake
[07:09] <nixternal> !stickme
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stickme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <apachelogger> me tooo!
[07:09] <nixternal> hahaha, we need that so we can punish ourselves
[07:09]  * dasSKreech will avoid the stick thank you
[07:10] <nixternal> apachelogger: it was just kpovmodeler which wasn't life or death, but it is bad to have that attitude
[07:10] <nixternal> it isn't like we destroyed X, or Gnome, or heck, even KDE :p
[07:10] <dasSKreech> or windows
[07:10] <stdin> you aren't a man until you've broken KDE at least once :p
[07:11] <stdin> or woman, for out female inclined devs
[07:11] <stdin> s/out/our/ - /me gets more caffeine
[07:12] <nixternal> I see Ubuntu picked up another female dev...women are starting to kick some free software ass
[07:12] <apachelogger> nixternal: we weren't perfect!
[07:12] <nixternal> we had a talk at the uni today by a lady who worked for Microsoft but has since moved to Red Hat and is a free software lover
[07:12] <apachelogger> perfection is the most important thing at all
[07:13] <apachelogger> ah
[07:13] <apachelogger> Microsoft
[07:13] <nixternal> and we have another lady coming to Flourish next month and giving a couple of talks, plus she is going to sit on the FLOSS Panel with myself and others..that is going to rock hardcore man..I can't wait for Flourish
[07:13]  * apachelogger is looking forward on talking with some guys @ their CeBit booth
[07:13] <dasSKreech> nixternal: I should tell you about the woman who presented the Students Developers talk for .Net 1.0 at my Uni
[07:13] <nixternal> I think I am going to move to Europe, they have way to many Free Software conferences
[07:14] <apachelogger> right
[07:14] <apachelogger> and money wasting ones
[07:14] <dasSKreech> nixternal: Come to Jamaica we have way too few :)
[07:14] <nixternal> most of our CS instructors are women, I just now realized that, and our LUG advisor is a woman
[07:14]  * apachelogger spent a lot money on fosdem
[07:14] <dasSKreech> Hobbsee: coming to KDE Kamp ?
[07:15] <nixternal> if I move to Europe, anyone looking for a wannabe hacker to work for them? I will need a job of course, at least enough to buy some food and a warm blanket so sleeping in the park doesn't freeze me to death :p
[07:16] <apachelogger> nixternal: you could work at Microsoft's
[07:16] <Hobbsee> dasSKreech: no?
[07:17] <dasSKreech> Hobbsee: Drat
[07:54] <dasSKreech> nixternal: http://www.poutz.com/img/arte/contrucoes-com-moedas/
[08:01] <nixternal> holy smokes, that is cool
[08:06] <jussi01> nixternal: ?
[08:06] <nixternal> that picture that dasSKreech posted
[08:06] <nixternal> or those pictures rather in the link he posted
[08:08] <jussi01> nixternal: ahh. have a look at this one also: http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php :)
[08:14] <nixternal> that is cool as hell too
[08:22] <jussi01> :)
[09:22] <emonkey> nixternal, will there be an announce about 402 on kubuntu.org ? I've already written a news for -de and we want to wait until kde and .org will publish the news ...
[09:26] <Jucato> emonkey: he might be in bed (or should be)
[09:26] <emonkey> Jucato, ok thx. we can wait
[09:26] <Jucato> we are the borg. we can wait"
[09:27] <Jucato> :D
[09:27] <emonkey> :)
[09:32] <Jucato> !ping
[09:32] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[09:32] <Jucato> lol
[09:34] <Jucato> jussi01: ^^^^
[09:34] <jussi01> Jucato: yeah, I noticed
[09:34] <jussi01> very weird
[09:34] <jussi01> !test
[09:34] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:45] <boom1992> someone knows in which language ubiquity is written and where can I find the sources?
[09:46]  * Jucato wouldn't be surprised if it were python :)
[09:46] <Jucato> !info ubiquity
[09:46] <ubotu> ubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6.8 (gutsy), package size 1966 kB, installed size 7448 kB
[09:46] <Jucato> boom1992: you can do "apt-get source ubiquity"
[09:47] <boom1992> Jucato: oh no =( I don't have Kubuntu installed :P I'm going to write a Live-CD-Installer for ArchLinux and we want to make it as easy as Kubuntu one's ;)
[09:47] <Jucato> https://launchpad.net/ubiquity
[09:47] <boom1992> thx =)
[09:49] <Jucato> yep. written in py
[09:49] <Jucato> see the code tab
[09:50] <boom1992> yo =/
[09:52] <blizzzek> Jucato: can i search in lauchnpad (or somewhere) for apps written in a specific language (py e.g. :D)
[09:52] <xRaich[o]2x> Hm. The Plasmabar int 4.0.2 seems to have a problem with widescreen displays.
[09:52] <xRaich[o]2x> s/int/in
[09:52] <Jucato> blizzzek: not really sure... you'd have to ask in #launchpad :)
[09:53] <xRaich[o]2x> The scaling looks quite weird.
[09:53] <blizzzek> Jucato: ty ;)
[09:55]  * xRaich[o]2x really needs webspace to upload all these screenshots off visual bugs -_-
[11:30] <Riddell> boom1992: ubiquity uses debian-installer modules for a lot of its configuration
[11:31] <boom1992> Riddel: mmh ok =) btw the partitioning-part, is that an embedded qtparted?
[11:31] <jussi01> morning Riddell
[11:34] <Riddell> boom1992: it used to be, but qtparted is pretty broken, it uses a custom UI on debian-installer's partman now
[11:35] <boom1992> Riddel: ahh ok =)
[11:36] <boom1992> thx :)
[11:36] <Riddell> new alpha candidate CDs for testing, 20080305.1
[11:37] <jussi01> yay :)
[11:43] <iRon> Riddell: Does bulletproof-x need to be finished before BetaFreeze?
[11:44] <Riddell> iRon: what still needs doing?  just changing the scripts to run other apps as appropriate no?
[11:45] <Riddell> stdin!
[11:45] <iRon> Riddell: yes.. only this
[11:46] <iRon> Riddell: we need to consider what app to use -- displayconfig-gtk or displayconfig
[11:47] <Riddell> iRon: the gnome side are chaning over to gnome-display-properties
[11:47] <Riddell> and kde 4 has an randr kcontrol module
[11:48] <Riddell> so I think it should run the first available from gnome-display-properties, kcmshell4 randr, displayconfig-gtk, displayconfig
[11:48] <hunger> Will kubuntu-desktop get updated for the new OOo soon?
[11:49] <iRon> Riddell: ok. i'll contact Bryce about this..
[11:49] <Riddell> hunger: what's new about it?
[11:49] <jussi01> Riddell: quick question, do the autostart file movings have bugs?
[11:50] <hunger> Riddell: Dunno. The version number?
[11:50] <hunger> Aptitude wants to remove kubuntu-desktop when I try to update OOo.
[11:50] <Riddell> hrm, sounds like a bug in the openoffice packaging
[11:50] <Riddell> does anything else get removed?
[11:50] <hunger> If only aptitude would not crash all the time!
[11:51]  * stdin retunes huffing an puffing
[11:51] <hunger> Maybe that is due to OOo itself depending on a missing package though.
[11:52] <jussi01> Riddell: I imagine a diff of the debian dir is enough? or do you want an actual patch created? (for the autostart patches)
[11:52] <Riddell> jussi01: debdiff best
[11:52] <jussi01> Riddell: sure
[11:58] <kristjan_> I'm not sure if this is the correct channel for default look discussion, but why don't you drop polyester style and crystal windeco in favor of domino style & windeco?
[11:59] <Riddell> because artwork is subjective? :)
[12:01] <kristjan_> ok. what is the default look most important purpose? to appeal to largest audience possible?
[12:03] <hunger> Please don't change styles if not at all necessary (e.g. for KDE4). I'll have to retrain my parents in law on each change:-|
[12:03] <Hobbsee> got a screenshot of the domino proposal?
[12:04] <kristjan_> Hobbsee: no. I just like it alot, nothing comes close to it in kde3.5 (in my honest opinion)
[12:06] <kristjan_> Hobbsee: domino is sort of different from standard, windeco is part of window itself (e.g. oxygen style) http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/LightGrey+for+Domino?content=52721
[12:15] <Serega> hi all
[12:15] <kristjan_> how come kubuntu does have this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate
[12:17] <Riddell> kristjan_: that looks quite a lot different from the kde 3 norm
[12:18] <jussi01> Riddell: where do you want this debdiff for knetworkmanager?
[12:19] <Riddell> jussi01: anywhere you can put it
[12:19] <Riddell> bug report or pastebin is fine
[12:24] <jussi01> Riddell: here you are: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58479/
[12:24] <jussi01> I need to run.
[12:24] <jussi01> catch you later.
[12:24] <Riddell> perfect
[12:27] <Riddell> "kdebase-workspace-bin: Depends: libqimageblitz4 but it is not installable"
[12:27] <Riddell> gutsy ppa having trouble there
[12:28] <Riddell> stdin: do you know if qimageblitz was removed from ppa packages in the past?
[12:28] <stdin> not that I know of
[12:29] <Riddell> oh, maybe I just need universe in my chroot
[12:31] <Riddell> that helps
[12:43] <\sh> sebas: wine will work again ;)
[13:07] <Riddell> nareshov: about?
[13:24] <ryanakca> heh, yet another ice day :)
[13:24] <ryanakca> Riddell: any more backports?
[13:26] <Riddell> ryanakca: mostly someone needs to fix the ones that have failed
[13:26] <ryanakca> ok, and where can I find those? ~kubuntu-members-kde/+ppa ?
[13:28] <Riddell> ryanakca: kubuntu-members-kde4
[13:28] <ryanakca> s/+ppa/+archive
[13:28] <ryanakca> yep, found them :)
[13:28] <Riddell> ryanakca: kdebase-workspace-dev needs fixed for libxklavier1{2,1}-dev
[13:30] <ryanakca>   kdebase-workspace-dev: Depends: libxklavier12-dev but it is not installable ... so fix libxklavier first and then try?
[13:31] <Riddell> no just make it depend on libxklavier11-dev
[13:31] <ryanakca> ah, ok :)
[13:37] <ryanakca> Riddell: hmm... I see that kdebase-workspace 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1 built successfully, so I'm guessing its ~gutsy2~ppa1 or ~gutsy1~ppa2 that I want?
[13:38] <Riddell> ryanakca: ~gutsy1~ppa2
[13:38] <ryanakca> ok, thanks
[13:44] <Hobbsee> oops, you broke it
[13:45] <Riddell> ?
[13:48]  * ryanakca wonders if there's a dget that'll work with launchpad/PPA
[13:49] <Riddell> yes, I think stdin wrote one
[13:49] <vorian> you can go to the actual link and dget as well
[13:50] <stdin> for launchpad librarian URLs there dgetlp (from ubuntu-dev-tools)
[13:50] <stdin> which got a whole new rewrite by me again a couple weeks ago :)
[13:51] <ryanakca> stdin: nice, thanks :)
[14:01] <ryanakca> how can I temporarily add a repository/source line to schroot? ex, lp/ppa does it with "RUN: /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/override-sources-list ['override-sources-list', '531217-1385008', 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main', 'deb http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse', 'deb http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse', ...
[14:01] <ryanakca> ... 'deb http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse']"
[14:01] <ryanakca> oh, that line was longer than I thought :)
[14:03] <Riddell> never heard of schroot
[14:04] <ryanakca> s/schroot/sbuild/
[14:04] <ryanakca> hmm... I guess I'll manually edit the chroot :)
[14:26] <hunger> That drat scim thing is getting dragged onto my system yet again. This time by ubuntu-desktop.
[14:27] <Riddell> try removing scim-bridge-client-qt
[14:27] <hunger> Shouldn't it just not start on environments where it is not needed?
[14:28] <Riddell> that would be best yes
[14:29] <hunger> Riddell: Nope. Best would be it not getting installed when not needed:-)
[14:35] <ryanakca> hunger: remove 'scim'
[14:35] <ryanakca> (that'll take off scim-*)
[14:36] <hunger> ryanakca: Last time I had that installed I said that I'd just remove the stuff and was told to not to so that I could help getting this fixed.
[14:36] <hunger> ryanakca: You guys do not know what you want;-)
[14:37] <ryanakca> hunger: lol, I'm just telling you what I did, if you want to help test, kudos to you :D
[14:37] <hunger> ryanakca: Besides: That removes ubuntu-desktop now...
[14:38] <ryanakca> heh, bad idea asking for packaging help in #debian-mentors ;)
[14:38] <hunger> ryanakca: You have not updated recently? The new ubuntu-desktop drags in scim again.
[14:42] <ryanakca> hunger: updated monday night... *reupgrades*
[14:43] <ryanakca> hunger: hurra, 262 to upgrade, 20 not to upgrade
[14:43] <hunger> ryanakca: OOo is currently borked.
[14:44] <ryanakca> heh, thankfully I write all my documents with vim + LaTeX :)
[14:44]  * jpatrick hugs ryanakca 
[14:53] <davmor2> Riddell: what's skim
[14:53] <jpatrick> !info skim | davmor2
[14:53] <ubotu> davmor2: skim (source: skim): smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1238 kB, installed size 2688 kB
[14:54] <Riddell> kde frontend for scim
[14:55] <davmor2> Sorry more specifically what does it do?
[14:55] <Riddell> input for chinese and the like
[14:56] <davmor2> right okay just noticed it had appeared on the task bar of the latest live cd just wondered about it :)
[14:58] <Riddell> others have noticed it too
[15:00] <davmor2> Riddell: why is on the taskbar out of interest?
[15:02] <Riddell> davmor2: it should only appear if you're using CKJ, but there's been a change in the seeds which makes it appear for all
[15:02] <Riddell> I'm not sure the best way to fix that
[15:03] <davmor2> right okay.  Is it just because of it being the livecd then?  it shouldn't show up on the installed system is that right?
[15:07] <ryanakca> Riddell: hmm.../go -ment
[15:07] <ryanakca> oops,
[15:08] <ryanakca> Riddell: do I dput somewheres or debdiff?
[15:10] <ryanakca> Riddell: debdiff: http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/kdebase-workspace_4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa2.debdiff
[15:10] <ryanakca> builds fine :)
[15:15] <Riddell> ryanakca: are you a member of kubuntu-members-kde4?
[15:15] <ryanakca> ryanakca: nope
[15:16] <jpatrick> ryanakca: don't you just love tab? :-)
[15:16] <Riddell> ryanakca: I've added you
[15:16] <Riddell> ryanakca: edit ~/dput.cf as per https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart for kubuntu-members-kde4 and put there
[15:17] <Riddell> dput there
[15:17] <ryanakca> Riddell: ok, thanks. As for buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.kdeedu-kde4_4%3A4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ,   kdelibs5-dev: Depends: kdelibs5 (= 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa2) but it is not going to be installed   has that been fixed? Tried to build 17 hours ago
[15:18] <ryanakca> jpatrick: lol, yep :)
[15:19] <davmor2> Riddell: doesn't fade to black on my laptop any more :)
[15:20] <davmor2> still fade just not to black :)
[15:20] <jpatrick> anyone here like to be roomie with me at UDS?
[15:21] <ryanakca> jpatrick: I could, but I'm not going :(
[15:21] <etretyak> I've changed my nick from `iRon' to `etretyak' to get a cloak :-)
[15:21] <jpatrick> ryanakca: aww
[15:21] <ryanakca> etretyak: they didn't like iRon ?
[15:22] <etretyak> ryanakca: iRon was already registered by someone else
[15:22] <ryanakca> jpatrick: well, a) its a school week, and b) my parents don't feel like dishing out 1-2k to fly me half way across the world, stay in hotel for a week, food, fly back, etc
[15:22] <ryanakca> etretyak: ah :)
[15:23] <jpatrick> ryanakca: a) meh b) Canonical pays all
[15:24] <ryanakca> jpatrick: lol, school doesn't really matter much, I'm ahead in all my classes, and I can catch up. and b), didn't know they'd do that :)
[15:24] <davmor2> ryanakca: You mean you didn't explain about it's importance in your social and education development ;)
[15:26] <jpatrick> ryanakca: there is a reason it's called "all-expenses paid" ;)
[15:26] <ryanakca> hmm... E: kdebase-workspace source: missing-build-dependency po-debconf
[15:27] <ryanakca> jpatrick: yes, well, I never saw that part, and I doubt its all-expenses paid for the parent/guardian that insists in comming along
[15:27] <jpatrick> ...
[15:27] <ryanakca> po-debconf... I guess I can just append that to build-depend
[15:28] <ryanakca> ?
[15:28] <ryanakca> or is there a reason why we didn't have it in...
[15:30] <jpatrick> ryanakca: debhelper depends on that
[15:32] <ryanakca> jpatrick: so I can leave it out since we already depend on debhelper?
[15:32] <jpatrick> ryanakca: yeah
[15:39] <LjL> wait... we have 4.0.2 in ppa before it's released?
[15:39] <jpatrick> LjL: yeah
[15:40] <jpatrick> LjL: they release tars to us before release to package for release date
[15:41] <LjL> jpatrick: isn't that a bit confusing to users who have PPA enabled as per kubuntu.org?
[15:43] <Riddell> it's on ftp.kde.org
[15:50] <davmor2> Riddell: Skim shows up on the installed system too :(  other than that I don't see much wrong.
[15:50] <davmor2> oh volume level much better too don't know if it is volume change or just improved drivers :)
[15:51] <ryanakca> heh, I never even noticed, I thought 4.0.2 was already released ;)
[16:05] <davmor2> Riddell: I just noticed there is an update for almost all of open-office does this mean they'll be another cd ?
[16:05] <Riddell> davmor2: yes, I'm afraid so
[16:07] <davmor2> Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn  Shruggin fassin Dick Dasterdly :)
[16:07] <davmor2> Riddell: will kde4 be effected too or is it safe to keep downloading it?
[16:08] <ryanakca> Hmm... anybody know why OOo always seems to be alternating between broken and fixed?
[16:08] <\sh> ryanakca: it's evil...
[16:08] <Riddell> davmor2: yes, seems it is
[16:09] <davmor2> ryanakca: other than it's OO.o?
[16:09] <davmor2> Riddell: Okay np.  Most of my issues with KDE on my machines are over any way :)
[16:09] <ryanakca> davmor2: lol
[16:11] <davmor2> \sh: any idea when the wine update will hit the repo's at all?
[16:16] <\sh> davmor2: nope...depending on the load of the buildds
[16:21] <\sh> davmor2: according to https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/wine/0.9.56-0ubuntu1 it should be already on the archives
[16:22] <\sh> davmor2: but looks like that it didn't hit the ftp archive ..
[16:23] <davmor2> ah right np's thanks for the heads up :)
[16:25] <jpatrick> ScottK: you applied for DM?
[16:26] <ScottK> Yes.
[16:26] <jpatrick> yay, /me now knows who to poke for quick uploads
[16:26] <ScottK> I'm just starting T&S in my NM and so this'll give me some ability to upload in the mean time.
[16:26] <ScottK> jpatrick: NM is only for packages I'm maintainer for.
[16:26] <jpatrick> :(
[16:27] <jpatrick> maybe I could do the same..
[16:27] <ScottK> Sorry. That was DM.  NM Is the process to become a DD which I may someday finish...
[16:38] <NthDegree> anyone know what the status of a CD-ROM based alternate install is like for Alpha 6?
[16:46] <yao_ziyuan> ktorrent doesn't seem to fully support unicode filenames (filenames specified in a torrent). i suggest ubuntu uses the official bittorrent client instead.
[16:48] <\sh> oh wow...this guy has nerves
[16:48] <\sh> more likley that the torrent file doesn't provide really utf-8 filenmaes, but non-unicode stuff (e.g. gb18030)
[16:49] <jpatrick> \sh: yeah, he's done that loads of times...
[16:50] <jussi01> and now in #k having a complain... sigh
[16:50] <jpatrick> yep, I'm watching..
[16:51] <ryanakca> heh
[16:52] <jpatrick> hi nosrednaekim
[16:52]  * ryanakca waves to nosrednaekim and Czessi 
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> hey jpatrick... thanks for fixin up that package.
[16:53] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: no problem
[16:53]  * ryanakca wonders why the guy doesn't just file a bug report
[16:55] <jpatrick> < yao_ziyuan> sorry i feel it uncomfortable to file a bug :)
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> its apparently not feng shau....
[16:56]  * \sh doesn't say anything about it...the torrent file attached to a bug would be better...but I doubt that's a legal file he tried to download ,-)
[16:56] <jussi01> someone should tell him complaining in #k wont help
[16:56] <jpatrick> no, it isn't
[16:56] <ScottK> Well I feel uncomfortable making changes based on random IRC rambling, so I guess we're even.
[16:57] <jpatrick> jussi01: why, I thought you'd never volunteer
[16:57]  * jussi01 huggles ScottK 
[16:57] <jussi01> jpatrick: he ignores me. If I go in there too much Ill kick him, and I dont want to do something stupid
[16:58] <jpatrick> jussi01: err, tell me if what I just did was right
[16:58] <jussi01> jpatrick: perfect, he was flooding
[16:59]  * jpatrick goes back to writing emails
[17:06] <nixternal> mornin'
[17:06] <nixternal> emonkey: yes there will be info about 4.0.2 in the release notes
[17:06] <nixternal> I am going to get those all doctored up today
[17:07] <emonkey> nixternal, ok thank you
[17:11] <NthDegree> jpatrick: what compiler options does Ubuntu Hardy use for the majority of packages?
[17:33] <davmor2> Riddell: should the Hardware Drivers Manager not run on first restart after install?
[17:33] <Riddell> jockey?
[17:33] <Riddell> I suppose so
[17:34] <davmor2> It doesn't :(
[17:34] <Riddell> davmor2: what happens if you run "jockey-kde --check" ?
[17:35] <davmor2> Riddell: everything is fine if you run the tool manually
[17:35] <davmor2> I'll try it for you next batch of cd's
[17:36] <Riddell> new CDs are up, ubuntu desktop oversized though
[17:37] <davmor2> I'll give it a bit before I run my script :)
[17:45] <smarter_> Could kubuntu-kde4-meta includes oxygen-cursor-theme?
[17:52] <Riddell> smarter_: yes, it should
[17:53] <smarter> great
[17:53] <smarter> k-d-s-kde4 has disappeared?
[17:56] <nareshov> Riddell: I'm here
[17:56] <nareshov> was out all day
[18:19] <Riddell> nareshov: it's ok, ryanakca fixed it :)
[18:19] <Riddell> nareshov: but there's proabably still packages in the ppa that need given back
[18:20] <nareshov> ah, ok
[18:20] <nareshov> "that need given back" ?
[18:21] <stdin> I wonder what nixternal did
[18:22] <Riddell> nareshov: retried
[18:22] <davmor2> \sh_away: Yeah wine works a dream :)
[18:35] <nixternal> requirements of an irc op: be a retard
[18:37] <seele> nixternal: there is an MD loco meeting tonight if youre interested
[18:38] <seele> since soon enough youll be here :)
[18:38] <nixternal> what time?
[18:38] <nixternal> I just might have to check in
[18:38] <seele> 20:00 in #ubuntu-maryland
[18:38] <seele> 20:00 est
[18:43]  * seele waves to DaSkreech 
[18:43] <DaSkreech> Hi seele
[18:45] <nixternal> wow, #ubuntu-maryland is super quiet isn't it
[18:46] <nixternal> I wonder if there are an SMIBs in the MD LoCo
[18:46] <nixternal> I think only those in southern MD know what a SMIB is
[18:46] <nixternal> don't think the rest of the state knows
[18:47] <seele> nixternal: yeah.. they're having some internal battle about IRC vs Message Boards vs Email
[18:47] <nixternal> Chicago was the same way, but eventually everyone caught on
[18:48] <nixternal> plain and simple, you can't be a geek and not use IRC..it is a requirement
[18:48] <skreech_> How are you seele ?
[18:48] <nixternal> I get on people at the uni who claim to be geek...I always ask which IRC channels they hang out on :p
[18:48] <nixternal> I am such a meany
[18:48] <seele> DaSkreech: good.. just trying to get caught up with job stuff so i can get some floss work done later this week
[18:49] <ScottK> nixternal: Got a minute to put on your MC hat?
[18:50] <DaSkreech> seele: Cool If I can help let me know
[18:54] <seele> DaSkreech: with my job? lol
[18:58] <DaSkreech> seele: :-) Sure with your job
[18:59] <seele> DaSkreech: not really but thanks for the offer
[19:01] <tlayton> ScottK: updated guidance from your ppa today. there is a missing double quote in wineread.py on line 30
[19:01] <DaSkreech> No akregator for KDE4 ?
[19:02] <ScottK> tlayton: Thanks. looking.
[19:05] <smarter> DaSkreech: akregator is in kdepim which has not been released
[19:05] <ScottK> tlayton: Fixed.  Thanks.
[19:05] <DaSkreech> smarter: ah right. Thanks
[19:05] <tlayton> ScottK: np. you're welcome
[19:06] <DaSkreech> That's gonna hurt
[19:12] <nixternal> ScottK: what's up?
[19:18] <DaSkreech> nixternal: does http://www.pidgin.im/~seanegan/blog/ open for you in Konqui ?
[19:19] <stdin> DaSkreech: KABOOM!
[19:23] <DaSkreech> stdin: Yup
[19:24] <DaSkreech> smarter: There is a koffice alpha out right?
[19:24] <DaSkreech> !info koffice-kde4
[19:24] <DaSkreech> !info koffice-kde4 hardy
[19:24] <smarter> yep
[19:24] <ubotu> Package koffice-kde4 does not exist in gutsy
[19:24] <ubotu> koffice-kde4 (source: koffice2): KDE Office Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.9.96.0~that.is.really.1.9.95.3-1ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[19:31] <ScottK> tlayton: I just uploaded another kdeguidance to my PPA.
[19:31] <ScottK> Riddell: My latest PPA (I swear) kde-guidance as a full MonitorDB update from hwdata SVN.
[19:33] <Riddell> ScottK: where does that come from?
[19:33] <ScottK> http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/hwdata.git?p=hwdata.git;a=blob_plain;f=MonitorsDB;hb=HEAD
[19:33] <ScottK> I wanted to run that by you before I uploaded it for real.
[19:34] <Tonio_> hum I noticed that my tonio@ubuntu.com redirection doesn't seem to work..... am I the only one ?
[19:34] <Riddell> ScottK: seems sensible but I'm not really familiar with the codebase
[19:35] <ScottK> From what I can see the data is the same format and it's where Dell pushes all their changes (and Ubuntu uses that data).
[19:36] <stdin> Riddell: you think I should backport decibel 0.5.0+svn737972-2ubuntu1 to the PPA, for kdenetwork, or is someone else doing it?
[19:38] <Riddell> stdin: I think kdenetwork-kde4 should be changed to not use decibel
[19:38] <Riddell> it would also require a backport of tapioca etc
[19:38]  * stdin takes a looksee
[20:06] <Riddell> hmm, I can't make the meeting on saturday
[20:06] <Riddell> anyone else want to lead it?
[20:06] <DaSkreech> Hi hunger
[20:07] <ryanakca> Riddell: Has Kubuntu ever used MootBot for logs/transcripts?
[20:09] <hunger> DaSkreech: hiho.
[20:11] <DaSkreech> hunger: Don't forget to hug Eva :)
[20:12] <stdin> ryanakca: we did a couple times, but iirc jpatrick hates the thing
[20:13] <ScottK> Then he can lead the meeting.
[20:13] <ryanakca> ScottK: who can? jpatrick?
[20:13] <hunger> DaSkreech: I will not risc a sexual harressment suit just so you can make fun of me.
[20:13] <stdin> he usually does the logs anyway
[20:13] <ScottK> If he's going to complain.
[20:14] <ryanakca> stdin: ah, any idea why? supposedly they're working on a log to wiki feature...
[20:14]  * ScottK will not be there either ...
[20:14] <stdin> ryanakca: I recall him saying something about not liking the way it floods the channel
[20:15] <DaSkreech> hunger: Ha ha fine tell her that hugs were sent on faith from Jamaica then
[20:15] <ryanakca> stdin: ah. I see... I could probably switch it to msg the commands to the chair instead of to the channel while I'm fixing it for classroom...
[20:16] <stdin> or jut mute the thing :p
[20:16] <DaSkreech> why doesn't apt-get install libstdc++[56] work ?
[20:16] <ryanakca> or that...
[20:17] <stdin> if the chair is +o and the channel is +z then they would still see the messages too
[20:17] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: package doesn't exist? E: Couldn't find package libstdc++[56]
[20:18] <DaSkreech> ryanakca: I know but shouldn't bash step in and split that to ... oh lord never mind I just figured it out
[20:18] <ryanakca> stdin: well, then you'd have to voice everybody who is participating, other than the bot... meh, if you show up half way through, you can always poke the chair for +v
[20:19] <stdin> ryanakca: no, if the  channel is +z then even though it's muted anyone who's +o will see it
[20:22] <ryanakca> stdin: *is lost* wouldn't you want +zm, that way only those voiced are able to talk? otherwise, everybody would still see mootbot, since they have the same status as it?
[20:23] <ryanakca> anyways...
[20:23]  * ryanakca wonders if there are any backports left...
[20:23] <stdin> ryanakca: no, when the channel is +z then anyone who's muted (or banned but not removed) can still be see by anyone who is +o, but not by anyone else
[20:24] <ryanakca> stdin: oh, you mute the bot, sorry, missed that :)
[20:24] <stdin> yeah
[20:30] <Riddell> ryanakca: have you checked if they've all compiled? (ignoring lpia)
[20:35]  * stdin has been helping the PPA along
[20:36] <ryanakca> Riddell: built fine
[20:36] <stdin> koffice seems horribly broken though
[20:37] <ryanakca> Riddell: lpia, i386 and amd64...
[20:37] <Riddell> does everything install?
[20:37] <Riddell> stdin: koffice2?
[20:37] <stdin> Riddell: yeah
[20:37] <stdin> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12101946/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.koffice2_1%3A1.9.96.0%7Ethat.is.really.1.9.95.3-1ubuntu1%7Egutsy2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:38] <stdin> debian/tmp//usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkisexiv2.so.5 isn't built it seems
[20:39] <Riddell> remove it from the .install files I guess
[20:39] <stdin> I bet it's not the only "missing" file though, and koffice2 takes so long to compile :p
[20:40] <Riddell> wait for the next alpha?
[20:42] <stdin> I'll try to get it built tonight, see how long it takes me to either succeed or give up
[20:43] <davmor2> give up now save trying to build ;)
[20:46] <ryanakca> Riddell: hmm... it doesn't complain about missing depends. I'm just waiting for 164MB of depends to download to test the install though :)
[20:49] <stdin> I've only seen one failed install in -kde4, and that's because they have kde4base installed for some reason
[21:01] <ryanakca> Riddell: installed fine
[21:07] <stdin> oh wait, koffice2 is fine, I was looking at ~gutsy2 when ~gutsy3 is built fine :p
[21:39] <jpatrick> ryanakca: yes, stdin's right, I do _dislike_ the MootBot
[21:39] <ryanakca> heh
[21:39]  * stdin is always right
[21:39] <stdin> unless I'm wrong that is
[21:41] <jpatrick> I might not make the eeting, (internet's is going at ~8B/s), but if I do, I will lead if you want
[21:45] <jpatrick> NthDegree: re your question, most of them can be found in /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/kde.mk for kde packages
[21:46]  * jpatrick => bed
[22:20] <Tonio_> Riddell: ping ?
[22:22] <Tonio_> Riddell: I don't receive any email to my @ubuntu.com email address redirection for 2 days now....
[22:22] <Tonio_> Riddell: my mailbox works like a charm, so I  must say I'm very, very annoyed :)
[22:22] <Tonio_> Riddell: I use my ubuntu.com address for everything.....
[22:22] <Tonio_> Riddell: any idea who to ping for the issue ?
[22:31] <ScottK> Tonio_: IIRC you 'ask a question' against launchpad for such issues, but I'm not sure.
[22:32] <Tonio_> ScottK I was asked to eventually ask on canonical-sysadmin channel......
[22:32] <ScottK> OK.
[22:32] <Tonio_> ScottK not sure what to do, and where to ask......
[22:32] <Tonio_> Riddell may know better...
[22:33] <ScottK> #launchpad or #canonical-sysadmin is where I would go, but it's the wrong time of day to get much help unfortunately.
[22:40] <Riddell> as ScottK says, #canonical-sysadmin
[23:06] <theunixgeek> In Designer, how do I import a class' slots?
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: you have to assign the slots to a function
[23:06] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: what do you mean?
[23:07] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: I already wrote the code.
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> then why are you importing them?
[23:08] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: ok, how do I connect signals to personally-written slots?
[23:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: no response yet, but I'll retry tomorrow :)
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: in python, you do it like so: QObject.connect(self.ui.noEffectsButton,     SIGNAL("clicked()"), self.noEffects)
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: I think its fairly similar in C++
[23:18] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: in designer
[23:19] <nosrednaekim> ooh! designer :)... I read kdevelop somehow
[23:19] <theunixgeek> :P
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> so you want to import a Qradiobutton's slots?
[23:20] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: no
[23:20] <theunixgeek> let me restate ;)
[23:20] <kwwii> erm, when is the next meeting?
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> kwwii: this friday iirc
[23:21] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: I wrote a method that changes the test of a QLabel:  void sayHello(QLabel label) { label.setText("Hello"); }
[23:21] <Riddell> kwwii: saturday at 11UTC but I can't make it
[23:21] <kwwii> Saturday March 8, 2008 at 11:00 UTC
[23:21] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: I want to connect a button's clicked() signal to run that slot. how do connect them?
[23:21] <kwwii> yeah, I just figured that out too
[23:21] <kwwii> thanks
[23:22] <kwwii> Riddell: well, I wonder if _StefanS_ is going to present his stuff
[23:23] <kwwii> he went to all this work and then makes nothing of it
[23:23] <kwwii> oh well
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: with the code I showed you above (only in C++)
[23:25] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: again, in designer
[23:27] <theunixgeek> nosrednaekim: I already wrote the code for my method
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> I'm not sure that can do it in designer.