[00:11] hmm, we don't seem to have packages of qbzr [00:11] also, shouldn't bzr be installed by default? [00:12] * yuriy just noticed because he was installing 5-a-day [00:13] 4MB, that's more space than we can afford for a developer tool [00:15] not that I think it should be, more just that i thought it was part of a base ubuntu install since it's sabdfl's favorite toy [00:17] oh i think it should be [00:17] but there's not enough space for desktop stuff never mind developer stuff [00:19] oh my, 4.0.2 == garbage [00:21] nixternal: Wasn't that just uploaded to Hardy? [00:22] uh oh [00:22] what's wrong with it? [00:22] Riddell: plasma is silly buggy, the panel resize doesn't work correctly... [00:23] I had to ctrl+alt+backspace 4 times before I had a useable desktop [00:23] From my quick experience with it, it seemed a little better. Desktop Effects murder my desktop slightly less now. I'm not 100% convinced this isn't my Xorg setup or graphics card's fault. [00:23] I rm -rf ~/.kde4 [00:23] seemed to have made things worse [00:23] I've only killed Plasma once. I was reminded of an Explorer.exe crash [00:23] lol [00:23] exactly [00:23] In my defense, I was probably doing something dumb [00:24] plasma never crashed, but it went all white a few times [00:24] Well, not in my defense. [00:24] In KDE's defense [00:24] or it stayed all black [00:24] Wait, you can resize the panel? [00:24] hmm, i haven't had any of these issues yet. maybe nvidia is saving plasma more than eating it [00:24] ya, but I would recommend against it [00:24] yuriy: Do you have desktop effects on? [00:24] Artimus: yeah [00:25] desktop effects are much smoother and faster with 4.0.2 [00:25] yuriy: Any custom xorg.conf hackery? [00:25] Artimus: hmm i don't think so, just using the nvidia driver [00:26] i only used 4.0.2 for a little while on my other machine, i still need to restart this session and see how it works out [00:26] but i just saw bug 198362 and bug 198470, which aren't *too* bad. resizing the panel and such worked [00:26] Launchpad bug 198362 in kdebase-workspace "[KDE4] Upgrade to 4.0.2. -> Panel is not displayed properly" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198362 [00:26] Launchpad bug 198470 in kdebase-workspace "wallpaper broken in plasma in kde 4.0.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198470 [00:27] I'm not sure how to describe what was happening when I enabled desktop effects... I'd see "dead" windows. If I moved a window, it'd still appear rendered on the screen when the window was elsewhere. Nvidia card... [00:27] I should probably turn them off and mess around with the rest of KDE4 for a while. [00:28] Artimus: that's with the proprietary driver? [00:28] yuriy: yeah [00:28] I also tried turning on Composite with some instructions. It made no difference. [00:28] I'll probably go back to the default settings and try it again. [00:29] on a related note, has bulletproof X been implemented for kdm? [00:30] after a kernel update, i restarted x but not the machine and got a cannot start displayconfig-gtk message [00:32] yuriy: yes, that's bulletproof X [00:32] the scripts still need to be modified to test for and run displayconfig or something else if available [00:40] evening [00:41] good evening jjesse [00:42] morning Jucato [00:42] how are things for u? [00:42] doing ok. nervously waiting (for 2 months) for word on my application to college :) [00:42] i saw that on your blog, good luck [00:42] thans [00:42] thanks* [00:51] argh that kdiamond game is addicting [00:51] hehehe [00:51] haha [00:51] hrm hotel is blocking some of my vpn connection :( [00:51] that's the bejeweled clone right? [00:51] I guess [00:52] waiting for qt-copy to finish compiling [00:52] grin [00:52] qt-copy sub-src that is [00:52] there are 2 more game clones I'm looking for in Linux: Bookworm and Text Twist [00:52] after sub-src comes sub-tools [00:52] nixternal: i was in o'hare this morning at 5:30 :( [00:52] on my way to harford [00:52] that sucks, I was in bed by O'Hare at 5:30 :p [00:53] * nixternal needs food [00:53] back in a few [00:53] Jucato: Yeah, it is. And I thought Frozen Bubble killed time. [00:54] kdiamond is the new frozen bubble :) [00:54] mmm....frozen bubble... [00:54] mmmm [00:54] that looks fun too [00:54] I don't know, the game seems kind of laggy on my box [00:54] Hobbsee!!! :) [00:55] there were problems with kdiamond. aseigo blogged about it [00:55] I'm not familiar wth aseigo's or anyone else's blogs... [00:56] (I'm always looking for more, though. I've recently started using RSS more) [00:56] damn food isn't ready [00:56] smelled like it was [00:57] hey Jucato! [00:57] * Hobbsee likes gweled, though [00:57] * nosrednaekim is watching the error messages as he upgrades from dapper to hardy... or attempts to [00:58] nosrednaekim: I mourn for your install [00:58] it's known to be broken. [00:58] this is a separate partition :) [00:58] nosrednaekim: Didn't want to jump a few times? [00:58] grumble vm is not starting up today :( [00:58] Artimus: planetkde.org [01:00] http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/02/animating-lots-of-things-simultaneously.html <-- about kdiamond [01:03] uh oh... now its wanting 20MB of stuff... I hate doing this on dial-up. :) [01:03] nosrednaekim: Are you keeping notes on what's dying? [01:04] nothing has "died" yet actually [01:04] nosrednaekim: you're dist-upgrading on dial-up? :O [01:05] yuriy: apt-get dist-upgrade -qq --force-yes --print-uris does wonders :) [01:08] ok....goin back to my gutsy install... [01:24] hrmm, kpovmodeler-kde4 and rsibreak-kde4 were both kicked back with md5 issues...that wasn't right..the md5sums are the same and correct [01:25] head <- palm [01:25] * Jucato is beginning to hate kword's frames... [01:25] hehe === kewark is now known as bunyx === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying === bunyx is now known as krawek === wolfger_ is now known as wolfger === DaSkreech_ is now known as dasSKreech === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [03:03] * ryanakca loves netsplits :) === r0uzic_ is now known as r0uzic_ausente [05:30] what is wrong with this stinkin' network tonight? [05:31] It's smelly? [05:34] that it is [06:20] nixternal: network has been freaking for a while [06:20] damn, I thought we were in here [06:20] had me talking in the other chan [06:20] :) [06:21] stephaniewhiting doesn't hang in here too often [06:22] mmmm Guiness is the bestest! [06:25] Hows class? [06:26] oh nixternal can you change resolution in System Settings? [06:26] ya [06:27] class is kicking my arse [06:28] hrmm, I think I am going to create a customized skin for my laptop... maybe a little Kubuntu and KDE flavor [06:28] Hmm nothing I do will give me the apply option for my desktop [06:29] nixternal: stick it on brain storm!! [06:29] keep restarting X...it will eventually allow you to apply [06:29] ya, 4.0.2 seems to be a slight regression thus far [06:29] that's brilliant [06:29] I haven't seen a changelog for it [06:30] Course I didn't know it was out [06:30] I thought it was shipping Wednesday [06:30] kde 4 from trunk is great though [06:30] !info akregator-kde4 hardy [06:30] as long as you don't try to build on a monday that is :) [06:30] Package akregator-kde4 does not exist in hardy [06:30] yes yes stop rubbing in the lack of ppa builds already [06:33] wth, we have 6 kdm patches in kdebase [06:33] 7 [06:35] * dasSKreech laughs at aseigo's latest blog [06:38] Right let me make a SoC suggestion pre bed [06:39] nixternal: so no idea if it's actual regressions or packaging issues? [06:39] don't know yet [06:41] ooh can I put strikethroughs for Kubuntu SoC ideas that have been shot down? [06:41] I tried, there aren't strikethroughs on our blog [06:42] blast [06:42] we need some real SoC ideas, then I might apply for one [06:42] then again, I think it is bad for me to do that [06:42] I would rather get fresh blood in to do it [06:44] you could mentor [06:45] I want to work on some coding...thought about getting involved in a different project though [06:45] need to see how the applications go this time around [06:47] I don't see any patches that are out of place that could be a problem [06:50] heh, I said there aren't strike throughs on our blog...I mean wiki :) [06:51] hoy [06:51] what's up apachelogger [06:52] my maths professor just suggested to throw chalk at us if we don't stop talking about KDE [06:53] pffft, gnome users are so unfriendly -.- [06:53] Khalk ? [06:53] apachelogger: give them the Boot! [06:53] where would kipi be in the svn ? [06:53] extragear [06:54] either graphics or libs [06:54] Extragear? [06:54] ok [06:57] OMG [06:57] what happened? [06:58] other than kde4libs for gutsy is still not built -.- [06:59] 143 language packs to go [06:59] wooh, language packs are fun :p [06:59] I made a HUGE n00b mistake [07:00] stdin: I tend to don't like them anymore [07:00] hah [07:00] which one? :) [07:00] and nobody even caught the n00b mistake in revu [07:00] we are providing free breakage for our KDE 4 [07:00] shame on you revu'rz [07:00] Hobbsee: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive/+builds [07:00] apachelogger: kpovmodeler-kde4, my f'n binary was named kpovmodeler...d'oh! can't do that, we already have a kpovmodeler [07:00] Hobbsee: Hey you still hang out here :) [07:00] thank god our archive is smart [07:01] apachelogger: yummy [07:01] yeah, blocking soyuz for half a day now :S [07:01] nixternal: omg, indeed! [07:01] apachelogger: I swear they wait until we want to do a release before doing that, every single kde release (from the alphas to 4.0.1) they have decided to do that... [07:01] apachelogger: you didn't catch it either in revu, shame on you :p [07:02] nixternal: omg!!!! [07:02] that was a couple of months ago [07:02] did I advocate? [07:02] apachelogger: you aren't the only one, lets say a core-dev didn't catch it either [07:02] stdin: maybe we should talk to them [07:02] apachelogger: yup [07:02] nixternal: ok, that is pretty bad [07:02] apachelogger: wouldn't surprise me [07:02] ya, but I created that horrid booboo...live and learn..thank god it didn't turn out worse [07:03] * apachelogger adds an item to his checklist for revus [07:03] nixternal: gnome-init [07:03] luckily the version for kpovmodeler-kde4 is < kpovmodeler [07:03] apachelogger: and say what? "please don't kill the PPA buildds for over a day, kthxbye"? [07:04] stdin: well, if we can preannounce KDE releases to them, so they can delay their builds until we pushed KDE in [07:04] if they are willing to do that at all [07:05] * dasSKreech did a search for kipi and got fully distracted by a cosplayer [07:06] besides, "them" seems to just be Martin Pitt, and recently Arne Goetje (arnegoetje). the real problem with it is not just the number of packages, but that they are only built on the i386 buildds, so other archs start to build then ftbfs needed a manual re-queueing [07:06] so while the language packs build, we get no -dev packages built [07:06] * Hobbsee resists ranting [07:07] stdin: if it's just a couple of packages, i can reprio them [07:07] nomnom [07:07] particularly if it's only i386 [07:07] Hobbsee: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=pending [07:07] apachelogger: You understand kipi? [07:07] Hobbsee: we really just need kde4libs on 386 built, so it stops depending on libgif for gutsy [07:07] apachelogger: you need kde4libs? yeah, OK [07:08] what does the wallpaper plugin do? [07:08] it seems to manage the KDE wallpaper [07:08] Hobbsee: yep, most important [07:08] dasSKreech: allows you to set your wallpaper [07:08] from a kipi enabled application [07:08] * Hobbsee bumps [07:08] damn enter key [07:08] currently kdelibs5 will beak or best case not install [07:08] thank goodness for greasemonkey, even if i can't use buildd.py [07:08] nixternal: hmm ok and the slideshow plugin does slideshows of images [07:08] yes [07:08] * stdin hails the stick'o'buildd-bumps [07:08] saves one click [07:08] which is now fixed cuz of me :) [07:09] but it's not plugable [07:09] * Hobbsee hates the fact that there is *no* global build queue for ppa [07:09] Hobbsee: I deserve massive stick abuse for my horrible mistake [07:09] !stickme [07:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about stickme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [07:09] me tooo! [07:09] hahaha, we need that so we can punish ourselves [07:09] * dasSKreech will avoid the stick thank you [07:10] apachelogger: it was just kpovmodeler which wasn't life or death, but it is bad to have that attitude [07:10] it isn't like we destroyed X, or Gnome, or heck, even KDE :p [07:10] or windows [07:10] you aren't a man until you've broken KDE at least once :p [07:11] or woman, for out female inclined devs [07:11] s/out/our/ - /me gets more caffeine [07:12] I see Ubuntu picked up another female dev...women are starting to kick some free software ass [07:12] nixternal: we weren't perfect! [07:12] we had a talk at the uni today by a lady who worked for Microsoft but has since moved to Red Hat and is a free software lover [07:12] perfection is the most important thing at all [07:13] ah [07:13] Microsoft [07:13] and we have another lady coming to Flourish next month and giving a couple of talks, plus she is going to sit on the FLOSS Panel with myself and others..that is going to rock hardcore man..I can't wait for Flourish [07:13] * apachelogger is looking forward on talking with some guys @ their CeBit booth [07:13] nixternal: I should tell you about the woman who presented the Students Developers talk for .Net 1.0 at my Uni [07:13] I think I am going to move to Europe, they have way to many Free Software conferences [07:14] right [07:14] and money wasting ones [07:14] nixternal: Come to Jamaica we have way too few :) [07:14] most of our CS instructors are women, I just now realized that, and our LUG advisor is a woman [07:14] * apachelogger spent a lot money on fosdem [07:14] Hobbsee: coming to KDE Kamp ? [07:15] if I move to Europe, anyone looking for a wannabe hacker to work for them? I will need a job of course, at least enough to buy some food and a warm blanket so sleeping in the park doesn't freeze me to death :p [07:16] nixternal: you could work at Microsoft's [07:16] dasSKreech: no? [07:17] Hobbsee: Drat === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger === fabo_ is now known as fabo [07:54] nixternal: http://www.poutz.com/img/arte/contrucoes-com-moedas/ [08:01] holy smokes, that is cool [08:06] nixternal: ? [08:06] that picture that dasSKreech posted [08:06] or those pictures rather in the link he posted [08:08] nixternal: ahh. have a look at this one also: http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php :) [08:14] that is cool as hell too [08:22] :) === hunger_t is now known as hunger [09:22] nixternal, will there be an announce about 402 on kubuntu.org ? I've already written a news for -de and we want to wait until kde and .org will publish the news ... [09:26] emonkey: he might be in bed (or should be) [09:26] Jucato, ok thx. we can wait [09:26] we are the borg. we can wait" [09:27] :D [09:27] :) [09:32] !ping [09:32] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [09:32] lol [09:34] jussi01: ^^^^ [09:34] Jucato: yeah, I noticed [09:34] very weird [09:34] !test [09:34] Failed. === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:45] someone knows in which language ubiquity is written and where can I find the sources? [09:46] * Jucato wouldn't be surprised if it were python :) [09:46] !info ubiquity [09:46] ubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6.8 (gutsy), package size 1966 kB, installed size 7448 kB [09:46] boom1992: you can do "apt-get source ubiquity" [09:47] Jucato: oh no =( I don't have Kubuntu installed :P I'm going to write a Live-CD-Installer for ArchLinux and we want to make it as easy as Kubuntu one's ;) [09:47] https://launchpad.net/ubiquity [09:47] thx =) [09:49] yep. written in py [09:49] see the code tab [09:50] yo =/ [09:52] Jucato: can i search in lauchnpad (or somewhere) for apps written in a specific language (py e.g. :D) [09:52] Hm. The Plasmabar int 4.0.2 seems to have a problem with widescreen displays. [09:52] s/int/in [09:52] blizzzek: not really sure... you'd have to ask in #launchpad :) [09:53] The scaling looks quite weird. [09:53] Jucato: ty ;) [09:55] * xRaich[o]2x really needs webspace to upload all these screenshots off visual bugs -_- [11:30] boom1992: ubiquity uses debian-installer modules for a lot of its configuration [11:31] Riddel: mmh ok =) btw the partitioning-part, is that an embedded qtparted? [11:31] morning Riddell [11:34] boom1992: it used to be, but qtparted is pretty broken, it uses a custom UI on debian-installer's partman now [11:35] Riddel: ahh ok =) [11:36] thx :) [11:36] new alpha candidate CDs for testing, 20080305.1 [11:37] yay :) [11:43] Riddell: Does bulletproof-x need to be finished before BetaFreeze? [11:44] iRon: what still needs doing? just changing the scripts to run other apps as appropriate no? [11:45] stdin! [11:45] Riddell: yes.. only this [11:46] Riddell: we need to consider what app to use -- displayconfig-gtk or displayconfig [11:47] iRon: the gnome side are chaning over to gnome-display-properties [11:47] and kde 4 has an randr kcontrol module [11:48] so I think it should run the first available from gnome-display-properties, kcmshell4 randr, displayconfig-gtk, displayconfig [11:48] Will kubuntu-desktop get updated for the new OOo soon? [11:49] Riddell: ok. i'll contact Bryce about this.. [11:49] hunger: what's new about it? [11:49] Riddell: quick question, do the autostart file movings have bugs? [11:50] Riddell: Dunno. The version number? [11:50] Aptitude wants to remove kubuntu-desktop when I try to update OOo. [11:50] hrm, sounds like a bug in the openoffice packaging [11:50] does anything else get removed? [11:50] If only aptitude would not crash all the time! [11:51] * stdin retunes huffing an puffing [11:51] Maybe that is due to OOo itself depending on a missing package though. [11:52] Riddell: I imagine a diff of the debian dir is enough? or do you want an actual patch created? (for the autostart patches) [11:52] jussi01: debdiff best [11:52] Riddell: sure [11:58] I'm not sure if this is the correct channel for default look discussion, but why don't you drop polyester style and crystal windeco in favor of domino style & windeco? [11:59] because artwork is subjective? :) [12:01] ok. what is the default look most important purpose? to appeal to largest audience possible? [12:03] Please don't change styles if not at all necessary (e.g. for KDE4). I'll have to retrain my parents in law on each change:-| [12:03] got a screenshot of the domino proposal? [12:04] Hobbsee: no. I just like it alot, nothing comes close to it in kde3.5 (in my honest opinion) [12:06] Hobbsee: domino is sort of different from standard, windeco is part of window itself (e.g. oxygen style) http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/LightGrey+for+Domino?content=52721 [12:15] hi all [12:15] how come kubuntu does have this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate [12:17] kristjan_: that looks quite a lot different from the kde 3 norm [12:18] Riddell: where do you want this debdiff for knetworkmanager? [12:19] jussi01: anywhere you can put it [12:19] bug report or pastebin is fine [12:24] Riddell: here you are: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58479/ [12:24] I need to run. [12:24] catch you later. [12:24] perfect [12:27] "kdebase-workspace-bin: Depends: libqimageblitz4 but it is not installable" [12:27] gutsy ppa having trouble there [12:28] stdin: do you know if qimageblitz was removed from ppa packages in the past? [12:28] not that I know of [12:29] oh, maybe I just need universe in my chroot [12:31] that helps [12:43] <\sh> sebas: wine will work again ;) [13:07] nareshov: about? [13:24] heh, yet another ice day :) [13:24] Riddell: any more backports? [13:26] ryanakca: mostly someone needs to fix the ones that have failed [13:26] ok, and where can I find those? ~kubuntu-members-kde/+ppa ? [13:28] ryanakca: kubuntu-members-kde4 [13:28] s/+ppa/+archive [13:28] yep, found them :) [13:28] ryanakca: kdebase-workspace-dev needs fixed for libxklavier1{2,1}-dev [13:30] kdebase-workspace-dev: Depends: libxklavier12-dev but it is not installable ... so fix libxklavier first and then try? [13:31] no just make it depend on libxklavier11-dev [13:31] ah, ok :) [13:37] Riddell: hmm... I see that kdebase-workspace 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1 built successfully, so I'm guessing its ~gutsy2~ppa1 or ~gutsy1~ppa2 that I want? [13:38] ryanakca: ~gutsy1~ppa2 [13:38] ok, thanks [13:44] oops, you broke it [13:45] ? [13:48] * ryanakca wonders if there's a dget that'll work with launchpad/PPA [13:49] yes, I think stdin wrote one [13:49] you can go to the actual link and dget as well [13:50] for launchpad librarian URLs there dgetlp (from ubuntu-dev-tools) [13:50] which got a whole new rewrite by me again a couple weeks ago :) [13:51] stdin: nice, thanks :) [14:01] how can I temporarily add a repository/source line to schroot? ex, lp/ppa does it with "RUN: /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/override-sources-list ['override-sources-list', '531217-1385008', 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main', 'deb http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse', 'deb http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse', ... [14:01] ... 'deb http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse']" [14:01] oh, that line was longer than I thought :) [14:03] never heard of schroot [14:04] s/schroot/sbuild/ [14:04] hmm... I guess I'll manually edit the chroot :) === ubotu is now known as ubotu` === ubotu` is now known as ubotu === smarter_ is now known as smarter === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [14:26] That drat scim thing is getting dragged onto my system yet again. This time by ubuntu-desktop. [14:27] try removing scim-bridge-client-qt [14:27] Shouldn't it just not start on environments where it is not needed? [14:28] that would be best yes [14:29] Riddell: Nope. Best would be it not getting installed when not needed:-) [14:35] hunger: remove 'scim' [14:35] (that'll take off scim-*) [14:36] ryanakca: Last time I had that installed I said that I'd just remove the stuff and was told to not to so that I could help getting this fixed. [14:36] ryanakca: You guys do not know what you want;-) [14:37] hunger: lol, I'm just telling you what I did, if you want to help test, kudos to you :D [14:37] ryanakca: Besides: That removes ubuntu-desktop now... [14:38] heh, bad idea asking for packaging help in #debian-mentors ;) [14:38] ryanakca: You have not updated recently? The new ubuntu-desktop drags in scim again. [14:42] hunger: updated monday night... *reupgrades* [14:43] hunger: hurra, 262 to upgrade, 20 not to upgrade [14:43] ryanakca: OOo is currently borked. [14:44] heh, thankfully I write all my documents with vim + LaTeX :) [14:44] * jpatrick hugs ryanakca [14:53] Riddell: what's skim [14:53] !info skim | davmor2 [14:53] davmor2: skim (source: skim): smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1238 kB, installed size 2688 kB [14:54] kde frontend for scim [14:55] Sorry more specifically what does it do? [14:55] input for chinese and the like [14:56] right okay just noticed it had appeared on the task bar of the latest live cd just wondered about it :) [14:58] others have noticed it too [15:00] Riddell: why is on the taskbar out of interest? [15:02] davmor2: it should only appear if you're using CKJ, but there's been a change in the seeds which makes it appear for all [15:02] I'm not sure the best way to fix that [15:03] right okay. Is it just because of it being the livecd then? it shouldn't show up on the installed system is that right? [15:07] Riddell: hmm.../go -ment [15:07] oops, [15:08] Riddell: do I dput somewheres or debdiff? [15:10] Riddell: debdiff: http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/kdebase-workspace_4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa2.debdiff [15:10] builds fine :) [15:15] ryanakca: are you a member of kubuntu-members-kde4? [15:15] ryanakca: nope [15:16] ryanakca: don't you just love tab? :-) [15:16] ryanakca: I've added you [15:16] ryanakca: edit ~/dput.cf as per https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart for kubuntu-members-kde4 and put there [15:17] dput there [15:17] Riddell: ok, thanks. As for buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.kdeedu-kde4_4%3A4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz , kdelibs5-dev: Depends: kdelibs5 (= 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa2) but it is not going to be installed has that been fixed? Tried to build 17 hours ago [15:18] jpatrick: lol, yep :) [15:19] Riddell: doesn't fade to black on my laptop any more :) [15:20] still fade just not to black :) [15:20] anyone here like to be roomie with me at UDS? [15:21]