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barry | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
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MootBot | Meeting started at 15:00. The chair is barry. | 15:00 |
MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 15:00 |
barry | hello everybody and welcome to this week's ameu reviewer's meeting. who's here today? | 15:00 |
gmb | me | 15:00 |
salgado | me | 15:01 |
danilos | me | 15:01 |
sinzui | me | 15:01 |
* gmb listens to the wind blowing around the mostly empty meeting | 15:01 | |
barry | yeah, the asiapac meeting was pretty sparse too. sprints and team-leads meeting | 15:01 |
barry | hopefully then we can make this quick. | 15:02 |
barry | [TOPIC] agenda | 15:02 |
MootBot | New Topic: agenda | 15:02 |
barry | * Roll call | 15:02 |
barry | * Next meeting | 15:02 |
barry | * Action items | 15:02 |
barry | * Queue status | 15:02 |
barry | * Mentoring update | 15:02 |
barry | * Review process | 15:02 |
barry | * sabdfl request: make sure enums to be in the same interface files as the schemas where they are expressed. | 15:02 |
barry | * thumper - unwrapping import statements (line wrapping that is) | 15:02 |
barry | * drive-by copyright year updates | 15:02 |
barry | [TOPIC] next meeting | 15:03 |
MootBot | New Topic: next meeting | 15:03 |
barry | i will be traveling to pycon next week. can someone else chair this meeting? | 15:03 |
danilos | barry: can we have MootBot do it? :) | 15:03 |
barry | :) | 15:04 |
barry | other than that, does anybody else know they will not be here for the next meeting, same time and place? | 15:04 |
barry | also note that i will miss the 3/19 meeting too | 15:04 |
gmb | barry: I think you're better mailing the list about next week's chair. | 15:04 |
barry | gmb: +1 | 15:05 |
barry | [ACTION] barry email list about needing a chair for the next two weeks | 15:05 |
MootBot | ACTION received: barry email list about needing a chair for the next two weeks | 15:05 |
barry | [TOPIC] action items | 15:05 |
MootBot | New Topic: action items | 15:05 |
barry | * intellectronica to solicit feedback on ReviewRequestTemplate from launchpad | 15:05 |
barry | mailing list. | 15:05 |
barry | i think this was done | 15:05 |
gmb | Yes, it was. | 15:05 |
barry | cool | 15:06 |
barry | * barry to communicate to l-r list that when allocating general queue | 15:06 |
barry | reviews, please favor (but don't overwhelm) new recruits | 15:06 |
barry | done | 15:06 |
barry | * barry to communicate to l-r list that >800 line branches need to be | 15:06 |
barry | arranged with a reviewer '''before''' they are submitted | 15:06 |
barry | done | 15:06 |
barry | * gmb to hack review-submit to enforce 800 line limit. | 15:06 |
gmb | Done, but I need to run it past mwhudson. | 15:06 |
gmb | So leave it as an action for next week, I think. | 15:07 |
barry | gmb: cool, np | 15:07 |
barry | gmb: thanks | 15:07 |
gmb | np | 15:07 |
barry | [TOPIC] queue status | 15:07 |
MootBot | New Topic: queue status | 15:07 |
statik | me! sorry i'm late | 15:07 |
barry | i think intellectronica and danilo kicked ass today | 15:07 |
sinzui | We have a volunteer for a chair | 15:07 |
barry | last night the general queue was huge. today, it's small | 15:07 |
danilos | yeah, we are both on last branches in general queue | 15:07 |
danilos | (both by barry) | 15:08 |
barry | statik: wow, thanks for chairing this meeting for the next two weeks! :) | 15:08 |
barry | danilos: you rock | 15:08 |
* gmb chuckles at intellectronica's email. | 15:08 | |
barry | we have 6 pink branches, with 3 of those in conflict | 15:08 |
statik | barry: I deserve that. sure , I can do that | 15:08 |
barry | statik: it's okay if you can't or don't want to :) | 15:09 |
gmb | intellectronica would be here but millbank caught fire so he's gone home :) | 15:09 |
barry | jeebus | 15:09 |
statik | i vill do it | 15:09 |
gmb | I think "caught fire" might be an exaggeration | 15:09 |
barry | statik: awesome thanks. | 15:09 |
barry | salgado: what's up with julian's embargoed-archive branch? | 15:10 |
salgado | barry, I think it's been approved already | 15:10 |
barry | salgado: oh cool, PR probably wasn't update. no wories | 15:11 |
salgado | and I forgot to update its status | 15:11 |
barry | [TOPIC] mentoring update | 15:11 |
MootBot | New Topic: mentoring update | 15:11 |
barry | any mentors or mentoree comments today? | 15:11 |
sinzui | I should give more branches to schwuk | 15:12 |
barry | sinzui: give them /all/ to schwuk and take the weekend off :) | 15:13 |
sinzui | barry: to hack of formatdoctest,py? | 15:14 |
barry | sinzui: :) | 15:14 |
barry | [TOPIC] review process | 15:14 |
MootBot | New Topic: review process | 15:14 |
barry | * sabdfl request: make sure enums to be in the same interface files as the schemas where they are expressed. | 15:14 |
barry | have i mentioned that one here before? | 15:14 |
gmb | Yes, last week, I believe :) | 15:14 |
sinzui | yes | 15:14 |
* barry needs some ginko | 15:15 | |
sinzui | There is always an issue of circular imports that must be reconciled. | 15:15 |
barry | sinzui: yep | 15:15 |
barry | though for the one specific instance i changed, it wasn't a problem | 15:15 |
barry | e.g. from canonical.launchpad.interfaces.teammembership import TeamMembership | 15:16 |
barry | (or whatever) | 15:16 |
* barry skips thumper's proposal which we rejected last week | 15:16 | |
barry | * drive-by copyright year updates | 15:16 |
sinzui | I can fix that with sed in a few minutes. | 15:16 |
barry | sinzui: do you want to take that as an action item? | 15:17 |
barry | sinzui: you'll need something to do this weekend :) | 15:17 |
sinzui | barry: we /seriously/ want all the 2007 => 2008? | 15:18 |
barry | well, i don't think it's a big deal personally | 15:18 |
sinzui | I can do it. It wont take long. | 15:18 |
barry | i think it's fine to do it as a drive-by but if you're motivated, rs=barry :) | 15:19 |
* sinzui still has a trailing whitespace script sitting in Tomboy | 15:19 | |
barry | [ACTION] sinzui to sed-ify update to copyright years | 15:19 |
MootBot | ACTION received: sinzui to sed-ify update to copyright years | 15:19 |
danilos | I'm pretty sure we've got files which have 2006 as the last year | 15:19 |
danilos | or even 2005 or 2004 | 15:19 |
barry | danilos: we're all over the map | 15:19 |
barry | i'm sure we have files that have only one year in them | 15:19 |
sinzui | danilos: right | 15:20 |
barry | sinzui: oh, btw, i have a python script that does this for mailman. might be easily adapted, if sed isn't your bag | 15:20 |
barry | sinzui: it handles copyrights with only one year in them | 15:20 |
danilos | I don't think it's a big deal either (once we start opening up parts of LP, we might want to take a look over that, but no big deal atm) | 15:21 |
sinzui | barry: I also have a my own find script written in Python that should be upgraded to do replace. | 15:21 |
schwuk | barry: sorry - got delayed | 15:21 |
barry | sinzui: cool. i'll leave it to you then | 15:21 |
barry | schwuk: np | 15:21 |
barry | danilos: agreed | 15:21 |
barry | well, anyway that's it for me today. i'll open up the floor in case y'all have anything not on the agenda | 15:22 |
gmb | I have one thought. | 15:22 |
gmb | Which is this: | 15:22 |
gmb | Can people, devs and reviewers alike, *please* make sure to Reply All to review emails rather than just replying to the list. | 15:22 |
gmb | The conversation should be between reviewer and developer with a copy going to the list. | 15:23 |
salgado | +1 | 15:23 |
barry | gmb: +1 | 15:23 |
sinzui | +1 | 15:23 |
gmb | Emailing the list directly and not at least CCing the reviewer means that it can get filtered away. | 15:23 |
barry | gmb: do you want me to send an email on that? | 15:24 |
gmb | barry: If you would, yes. | 15:24 |
* gmb gets off his soapbox | 15:24 | |
gmb | Thanks. | 15:24 |
barry | [ACTION] barry will email about cc policy on reviews | 15:24 |
MootBot | ACTION received: barry will email about cc policy on reviews | 15:24 |
danilos | well, I'd say people should generally use "Reply-All" ("follow up") anyway, except when they specifically target a person (to exclude everybody else) | 15:24 |
gmb | danilos: Yes. It seems, though, that quite a few people do "reply to list" instead of "reply all" | 15:25 |
statik | email is for old people | 15:25 |
gmb | I think it's habit for mutt users to hit "L" when replying to mailing list messages ;) | 15:25 |
danilos | gmb: I found that the headers sometimes seem a bit different when an email finally hits launchpad-reviews list | 15:25 |
gmb | danilos: Is there some munching going on? | 15:25 |
gmb | Munching? | 15:26 |
gmb | Munging. | 15:26 |
barry | i don't think so. should definitely not be munging reply-to | 15:26 |
danilos | for example, I've seen my emails get there without CCs to my mentor or a developer, even if they got their messages | 15:26 |
gmb | Hmm. | 15:26 |
gmb | danilos: Now that you mention it, I saw that whilst salgado was metoring me. His replies would go to the developer and the list, but not to me directly. | 15:27 |
danilos | for example, look at my emails from today: I've sent them all to tom.berger@ as well, and that's not showing up in the list | 15:27 |
gmb | barry: This might be worth looking into, though I haven't got the first clue about why it'd be happening. | 15:28 |
danilos | gmb: what would barry know about mailing lists anyway? ;) | 15:28 |
barry | actually, nothing :) | 15:28 |
gmb | Harsh. | 15:28 |
* barry has no clothes | 15:28 | |
gmb | I hope that's an emperor metaphor... | 15:29 |
* sinzui hands barry a banana leaf | 15:29 | |
barry | gmb: i haven't noticed a problem with ml traffic. can you or danilos email specifics and/or an example? | 15:29 |
gmb | barry: I'll see if I can find one in my archives. | 15:29 |
barry | gmb: take it anyway you want. i'm not saying :) | 15:30 |
danilos | barry: sure, I can send you both what my client sent, and you can have a look at the same message in launchpad-reviews | 15:30 |
barry | gmb, danilos cool | 15:30 |
barry | anything else today? | 15:30 |
barry | 4 | 15:31 |
barry | 5 | 15:31 |
barry | er | 15:31 |
barry | 5 | 15:31 |
barry | 4 | 15:31 |
barry | 3 | 15:31 |
barry | 2 | 15:31 |
barry | 1 | 15:31 |
barry | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
MootBot | Meeting finished at 15:31. | 15:31 |
barry | thanks everyone! | 15:31 |
gmb | Cool, thanks barry. | 15:31 |
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