| LaserJock | ScottK: woot, going for DM | 00:15 |
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| zul | LaserJock: dungeon master? :) | 00:37 |
| LaserJock | heh, something like that | 00:37 |
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| emgent | Chuck ? | 01:17 |
| zul | shitty gary gygax has passwed away | 01:18 |
| Hobbsee | effie_jayx: poke | 02:12 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:15 |
| crimsun_ | bddebian: 'lo! | 02:20 |
| bddebian | Heya crimsun_ | 02:20 |
| RAOF | Heya crimsun_, bddebian. | 02:21 |
| bddebian | Hi RAOF | 02:22 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian, crimsun_ , RAOF | 02:23 |
| bddebian | Heh, heya LaserJock | 02:23 |
| TheMuso | Hey folks. | 02:23 |
| TheMuso | (Easier to do. :p) | 02:23 |
| bddebian | Hi TheMuso... :-) | 02:24 |
| crimsun_ | 'lo RAOF, LaserJock, TheMuso | 02:24 |
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| effie_jayx | Hobbsee, yep??? | 02:57 |
| crimsun | TheMuso: I may need you to upload soonish (or post-Alpha 6 - up to you guys now) | 03:13 |
| crimsun | err, sorry, alsa-driver being the source. | 03:13 |
| TheMuso | crimsun: Probably post alpha 6 is the best bet atm, but sure I can take care of it. | 03:14 |
| crimsun | TheMuso: thanks. Given post-Alpha 6, then, I'll ping you. | 03:15 |
| TheMuso | crimsun: Sure. | 03:15 |
| D-Unit | is there a link on the ubuntu wiki that says how to make a .deb? i checked ubuntuforums and found a guide but its not like easy to follow...i dont like guides that always lead u to clicking other links, i like it all in 1 page | 04:00 |
| TheMuso | D-Unit: I suggest you search the wiki for the packaging guide, and go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU to be linked to further information. | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | effie_jayx: can you fix libapache2-mod-python please? at least in gutsy, it appears to depend on 2 versions of python. | 04:05 |
| D-Unit | TheMuso, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide ? | 04:08 |
| TheMuso | D-Unit: I'd say thats the one. | 04:08 |
| D-Unit | k, thx | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | oh man, it's awesome when Debian fixes things :-) | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | I thought my fitting program was gonna be toast | 04:57 |
| * cody-somerville is actually pretty impressed with his interactions with debian. | 05:07 | |
| cody-somerville | I had heard all this bad stuff | 05:07 |
| RAOF | I think the deal is that "Debian" as a whole is not a valid unit of social interaction. | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | that' strue | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | some are nice, some aren't. | 05:08 |
| RAOF | You can have excellent dealings with individual maintainers, but if you try to interact with "Debian" (by, for example, attempting to become NM), it's icky. | 05:09 |
| TheMuso | All DDs I've worked with have been great. | 05:09 |
| cody-somerville | It seems Debian is so big that cliques form | 05:09 |
| * bddebian refrains from comment | 05:17 | |
| slangasek | cody-somerville: how dare you say that Debian is cliquish, I'm not sitting with you at lunch anymore | 06:01 |
| cody-somerville | slangasek, hehe :D | 06:01 |
| * cody-somerville makes a note to sit by slangasek at the UDS. | 06:01 | |
| LaserJock | it's amazing what Debian talks about on it's mailing lists | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | they really like to hash stuff around | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | (not that we don't at all) | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | reading debian-devel and debian-project can be really interesting | 06:05 |
| slangasek | the mailing lists are important for staying on top of where things are going... but they're definitely not where the work happens. :) | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | btw, I sent in my application for DM yesterday :-) | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | and ScottK sent his in today | 06:06 |
| slangasek | I noticed that, cheers to the both of you | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | hopefully I won't get booted out in the first week ;-) | 06:07 |
| cody-somerville | :D | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | I hope DM will be a real good initiative for Debian | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | I know it's been a motivator for me | 06:13 |
| nixternal | oi oi | 06:15 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: dm? Is this the same as NM? | 06:15 |
| StevenK | DM is not the same as NM | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | TheMuso: no, it's different | 06:16 |
| TheMuso | Right | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | Debian Maintainer is for people who don't want to be full Debian Developers yet | 06:17 |
| TheMuso | Ah. | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | they are limited to packages they are a Maintainer or Uploader for | 06:17 |
| StevenK | http://wiki.debian.org/Maintainers | 06:17 |
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| emgent | morning people | 08:27 |
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| \sh | damn..why people assign randomly bugs, just because there is one who uploaded...grmpf | 09:52 |
| RAOF | \sh: Because they don't understand the process. And want to make you look bad :) | 10:07 |
| \sh | RAOF: I blame sbuild ,-) | 10:08 |
| RAOF | \sh: Yeah, wierd bug. | 10:08 |
| \sh | because wine works with pbuilder / manual build | 10:08 |
| soren | Which bug are we talking about? | 10:11 |
| RAOF | soren: The bug where wine segfaults on everything if built in sbuild/buildd, and doesn't when built in pbuilder. | 10:12 |
| soren | Sounds like fun. Compared build logs? | 10:12 |
| RAOF | You'd want to ask \sh that :) | 10:13 |
| \sh | soren: wine crashing | 10:13 |
| \sh | soren: I compared everything...there is no change...I also removed dh_strip to get rid of some problems with it... | 10:14 |
| \sh | soren: funny though: using a snapshot chroot, which is also used for sbuild, and do a manual build...wine works...using sbuild directly -> package binaries -> crash | 10:15 |
| \sh | soren: so I think something strange happens when building the package...and there is a difference between sbuild and pbuilder | 10:17 |
| soren | A guy posted to the bug with his ./configure output. | 10:19 |
| \sh | but I'm at the end with my knowledge, or as you say in german "ich bin am ende mit meinem latein" | 10:19 |
| soren | It's different from the build logs from launchpad. | 10:19 |
| soren | checking for -lXi... not found | 10:20 |
| \sh | soren: yes...because he doesn't do the magic we did | 10:20 |
| soren | checking for -lXinerama... not found | 10:20 |
| soren | On Launchpad. | 10:20 |
| \sh | soren: this is already resolved | 10:20 |
| \sh | soren: a temp problem...(which is not the cause of the crash) | 10:20 |
| soren | Did you compare the full build logs? | 10:21 |
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| \sh | soren: yepp....I can reproduce this on any compile host I have...the build logs are the same and even the compile output of the manual build compared to the sbuild log (minus the package building process) | 10:22 |
| \sh | and if someone has time and wants to help...it'll be appreciated :) I'm lost for now | 10:24 |
| soren | Do you happen to have the build logs handy from pbuilder where it works? | 10:25 |
| \sh | soren: my sbuild logs are still available..pbuilder i have to recreate one... | 10:26 |
| * \sh is just building another one...I have to md5sum check the binaries from the package with the ones I build manually | 10:26 | |
| \sh | soren: I'll publish them when I have the pbuilder logfile.. | 10:27 |
| albert23 | \sh: in the bug report you wrote wine does *not* work when built in pbuilder, and it doesn't work for me either. I have a fix to make the pbuilder working again. | 10:28 |
| \sh | albert23: somehow my last pbuilder try worked...sbuild didn't | 10:29 |
| \sh | albert23: what did you change? | 10:29 |
| soren | \sh: sbuild is not really interesting. Launchpad has those, and it's the case where it doesn't work. I want to compare to the case where it *does* work. | 10:30 |
| albert23 | \sh: problem is the standard LDFLAGS to default value: -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions set by dpkg-buildpackage | 10:30 |
| \sh | soren: yepp..you'll get the pbuilder output :) | 10:30 |
| albert23 | \sh: if I reset LDFLAGS and make sure not to strip, it works again | 10:31 |
| soren | Wine is like a half hour build or thereabouts, no? | 10:33 |
| albert23 | \sh: this is my debdiff: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5308/ | 10:33 |
| albert23 | \sh: it makes dh_strip and dbgsym creation work again as well | 10:33 |
| soren | It claims to also fix the segfault? Is that accurate? | 10:34 |
| albert23 | soren: yes it is | 10:34 |
| albert23 | \sh: see also http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2007-July/062505.html | 10:34 |
| \sh | hmm...give me a shot... | 10:37 |
| effie_jayx | Hobbsee, ping | 10:38 |
| albert23 | \sh: note the Unexport FLAGS set by dpkg-buildpackage was not needed and is commented out in debian/rules | 10:38 |
| \sh | albert23: yepp..could you push your change towards the bug report? (bug #191575) | 10:40 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 191575 in wine "wine segfaults on winecfg" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191575 | 10:40 |
| albert23 | \sh: yes I will, after first cleaning up the unneeded change | 10:41 |
| \sh | albert23: much better, if you could checkout the wine debian/dir from ubuntu-wine project | 10:41 |
| \sh | s/project/team/ | 10:41 |
| \sh | albert23: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/wine/ubuntu-debian-dir :) | 10:41 |
| albert23 | \sh: sorry, I have not used bazaar before.... | 10:43 |
| \sh | albert23: ok..I#ll do it then when it works :) | 10:52 |
| \sh | but first lunch...bbl | 10:52 |
| Hobbsee | effie_jayx: pong | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: because they expect you to fix it if they assign it to you. duh. | 11:19 |
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| jussi01 | If i change the /etc/pbuilderrc file distribution to hardy from gutsy, then run sudo pbuilder update --override-config, that will update my pbuilder to hardy successfully?' | 11:31 |
| soren | Probably not. | 11:32 |
| soren | AFAIR distributino is only really used at creation time. | 11:32 |
| jussi01 | soren: ok, whats the correct way to upgrade pbuilder then? | 11:32 |
| jussi01 | delete the base, change the distribution and run pbuilder create again? | 11:33 |
| soren | You need to either create a new pbuilder from scratch (which I recommend) or change the source.list in your current pbuilder and then run the command you mentioned. | 11:33 |
| * soren needs food, so goes to lunch | 11:33 | |
| jussi01 | ok | 11:33 |
| jussi01 | thanks | 11:33 |
| emgent | jdstrand, heya :) | 11:54 |
| jdstrand | hi emgent! | 11:54 |
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| \sh | albert23: you are the hero | 12:05 |
| albert23 | \sh: :-) | 12:06 |
| \sh | albert23: would you like to give me your realname? | 12:07 |
| albert23 | \sh: it's in the debdiff | 12:07 |
| stani | Is there anyone later today who can help me uploading Phatch & SPE? | 12:11 |
| emgent | jdstrand, i have some debdiff for your todolist :P | 12:12 |
| jdstrand | great! | 12:12 |
| stani | sorry, wrong channel | 12:23 |
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| tbf | could someone remove the existing gnome-lirc-properties_0.2.2-0ubuntu1.dsc package, please? it is broken. | 12:35 |
| tbf | hmm... or should dcut do the job? | 12:36 |
| slytherin | Does anyone know if LZMA is default compression for packages now? | 12:49 |
| jmehdi | hi, I'd like to know if I could upload a new package on revu even if it is "feature freeze" | 12:49 |
| jdong | slytherin: no and yes | 12:53 |
| Hobbsee | jmehdi: you can. likely no one will look at it | 12:53 |
| jdong | slytherin: no for most, yes on some large packages | 12:53 |
| slytherin | jdong: large packages like OOo? | 12:54 |
| jdong | slytherin: the compression and decompression costs of LZMA are usually several orders of magnitude away from that of gzip/bzip2 so it's not globally enabled | 12:54 |
| jdong | slytherin: and yes OOo is one of the LZMA'ed packages | 12:54 |
| slytherin | cool | 12:54 |
| jdong | indeed | 12:54 |
| jdong | the other cool thing is that it brings "lzma" into main and installed by default | 12:55 |
| jdong | which for modern PC's is a great alternative to gzip | 12:55 |
| zul | meh....dislike doing ffe | 12:57 |
| jdong | "Bug Fix." I swear. ;-) | 12:59 |
| zul | sure...:) | 13:01 |
| emgent | bug #198731 | 13:05 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 198731 in lighttpd "[CVE-2008-1111] Failure to Handle Exceptional Conditions " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198731 | 13:05 |
| Iulian | Hello | 13:14 |
| mok0 | I read in the policy that the distributions field in changelog can be a space separated list of distributions. Does that actually work with the build system? | 13:15 |
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| azeem | mok0: that part is from the old Debian ages, I don't think Ubuntu is using it | 13:20 |
| mok0 | azeem: ok. Seems smart though. Although I don | 13:21 |
| mok0 | t think the distribution information belongs in changelog | 13:21 |
| azeem | "distribution" as in "hardy", "hardy-backports" etc. | 13:21 |
| mok0 | azeem: yes | 13:21 |
| azeem | why wouldn't it belong into changelog? | 13:21 |
| mok0 | azeem: because it's a silly to have to create a new changelog entry just because you are compiling a package under a new distribution | 13:22 |
| azeem | that doesn't follow | 13:22 |
| mok0 | azeem: no? | 13:22 |
| azeem | you can override the distribution in the .changes file | 13:23 |
| mok0 | azeem: how do you do that? | 13:23 |
| azeem | vi foo.changes | 13:23 |
| mok0 | :-) | 13:23 |
| mok0 | azeem: because it's a silly to have to create a new change file entries just because you are compiling a package under a new distribution :-) | 13:23 |
| azeem | well, it's what the Ubuntu autobuilders do with synced Debian packages I guess | 13:23 |
| mok0 | azeem: I think the logical association is that a distribution is a set of packages. A package does not necessarily have anything to do with a distributgion | 13:24 |
| mok0 | In fact, a package can be part of many distributions. | 13:25 |
| azeem | a source package mabye | 13:25 |
| azeem | maybe* | 13:25 |
| mok0 | Therefore, it doesn't make sense to define the distribution in changelog | 13:25 |
| azeem | binary packages tend to get rebuilt for the respective distribution | 13:25 |
| mok0 | azeem: the changelog documents the source package | 13:25 |
| mok0 | azeem: exactly: from the same source | 13:26 |
| azeem | mok0: well, what's your use case? | 13:26 |
| azeem | upload the same source to hardy and dapper-backports? | 13:26 |
| mok0 | azeem: I have a bunch of packages that need to be compiled unchanged for hardy | 13:26 |
| azeem | upload the same source to unstable and hardy? | 13:26 |
| azeem | mok0: unchanged fro what? | 13:26 |
| azeem | from* | 13:26 |
| mok0 | azeem: unchanged from gutsy | 13:26 |
| mok0 | azeem: I need to process them all manually to correct the distribution in debian/changelog | 13:27 |
| azeem | why would you upload package to gutsy at this point? | 13:27 |
| * slytherin wonders why the heck OOo fails to build on powerpc | 13:27 | |
| mok0 | azeem: we run gutsy on almost all machines | 13:27 |
| \sh | WINE WORKS AGAIN YEEHAA | 13:28 |
| effie_jayx | does it make sense for apache to have two pyton versions in the depens line? | 13:28 |
| azeem | mok0: and where are you uploading to? | 13:29 |
| mok0 | azeem: a local repo | 13:29 |
| azeem | so autobuild the package for gutsy from there | 13:29 |
| mok0 | azeem: autobuild? | 13:30 |
| azeem | buld the hardy source package for gutsy | 13:30 |
| azeem | I don't see why you would have to change debian/changelog in this case | 13:31 |
| mok0 | azeem: you mean, just override the distribution? | 13:31 |
| azeem | yes | 13:31 |
| azeem | doesn't pbuilder (or whatever you're using) have an option for that? | 13:31 |
| azeem | sbuild has | 13:31 |
| mok0 | azeem: I haven't seen one for pbuilder... I'm not (yet) using sbuild, although I plan to | 13:32 |
| mok0 | azeem: In fact, I'd like to have a complete building environment, like that in the PPA | 13:33 |
| mok0 | azeem: because I need to build for several distributions and 2 archs | 13:33 |
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| RainCT | tbf: a bit late, but dcut doesn't work on REVU | 13:50 |
| tbf | RainCT: so some demigod has to cleanup it seems? | 13:51 |
| tbf | ah! revu's demigod did! :-D | 13:51 |
| mok0 | Hmm. Major upset in openoffice in today's hardy upgrade | 13:54 |
| soren | Yeah. Excellent excuse to yank the sucker out. I like it. | 13:54 |
| mok0 | soren: Harsh words on an otherwise innocent Wednesday... | 13:55 |
| \sh | what's wrong with our beloved office app? ,-) | 13:57 |
| slytherin | apart from that it is blazing fast. :-P | 14:01 |
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| soren | \sh: I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question.. :) | 14:03 |
| \sh | soren: kind of ;) | 14:04 |
| soren | Good. | 14:05 |
| soren | :) | 14:05 |
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| mok0 | Trying to figure out what cdbs' tarball.mk is good for. Anyone knows? | 14:13 |
| azeem | it's for orig.tar.gz's which contain other (possibly multiple) tarballs | 14:16 |
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| hellboy195 | \sh: congratulation :) | 14:48 |
| \sh | hellboy195: no give your congrats to albert23 :) | 14:48 |
| hellboy195 | \sh: true but you also put a lot of work and time into it ;) | 14:49 |
| \sh | hellboy195: that's one of the duties...:) | 14:57 |
| emgent | heya | 14:58 |
| \sh | hellboy195: the only rant i have, the bug was known to wine bugzilla..but was set to closed/invalid | 14:58 |
| albert23 | \sh: I liked the explanation: Don't mess with linker flags unless you understand exactly what they do. Now what would the dpkg developer think of that? | 14:59 |
| hellboy195 | \sh: grrr | 15:00 |
| \sh | albert23: regarding the wine bugreport...it's wines fault...or better not wines fault, but it's an exception I would liked to know earlier...and it's not any other ones fault of a misbehaving wine...I think wine needs a status like mplayer, which is pushing their own LDFLAGS too | 15:01 |
| \sh | s/their/its/ | 15:02 |
| \sh | albert23: the fun part about this bug is, that the bugreport was set to closed/invalid, but actually it's not invalid neither should it be closed... | 15:10 |
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| albert23 | \sh: yeah, at least they could have given a bit more explanation. | 15:11 |
| \sh | albert23: so for the next time, I need to refine my searches to include invalids/closed bugs too ,-) | 15:14 |
| albert23 | \sh: Maybe. Actually, first I found the fix. Only when I tried to validate the fix I found that bug report | 15:15 |
| \sh | albert23: well, after 2 weeks trying to search what was the cause, you don't see the obvious... | 15:16 |
| \sh | 4 weeks actually | 15:16 |
| albert23 | \sh: it's just that I was caught by those standard flag settings before that made me try this | 15:17 |
| \sh | albert23: which source was it? :) | 15:19 |
| albert23 | \sh: that was gcal. First it build fine, suddenly it was FTBFS | 15:20 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 15:20 |
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| \sh | albert23: but it was CFLAGS in gcals case ... but yes... | 15:26 |
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| emgent | jdstrand, another debdiff for your todolist :P | 15:39 |
| emgent | bug #198731 | 15:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 198731 in lighttpd "[CVE-2008-1111] Failure to Handle Exceptional Conditions " [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198731 | 15:39 |
| emgent | hardy fixed by \sh, gutsy, feisty, edgy, dapper ready and tested. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | \sh: It this a good wine to backport and did you see the note I left for you about kdeguidance wineconfig? | 15:41 |
| jdstrand | emgent: ok. thanks! | 15:42 |
| \sh | ScottK: you can try :) and no..I didn't get the note | 15:42 |
| ScottK | \sh: Would you please look at the wine related debdiff in Bug #151982 and tell if you think we should do that? I'm preparing a kdeguidance upload over the next few days. | 15:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 151982 in kde-guidance "Wineconfig doesn't detect Wine" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151982 | 15:43 |
| \sh | ScottK: regarding /usr/local/lib* I think it has to follow the very same rules as /usr/lib*...but I would even drop the /usr/local/lib* check complety | 15:47 |
| \sh | ScottK: and yes, the patch is fine :) | 15:47 |
| ScottK | \sh: Thanks. | 15:48 |
| ScottK | The local bit's in there from upstream, so I'll probably leave it. | 15:48 |
| ScottK | User install stuff in /usr/local it's their problem. | 15:48 |
| \sh | ScottK: so go ahead :) | 15:49 |
| ScottK | Main's frozen until the last alpha is released. Unless someone kvetches about the version I have in my PPA, I'll upload it after the freeze is off. | 15:50 |
| \sh | ScottK: yepp... | 15:51 |
| \sh | crimsun: are you working on a fix for libflashsupport? | 15:53 |
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| mdomsch | ScottK, did superm1 get you what you needed yesterday re: kde-guidance? | 16:17 |
| ScottK | mdomsch: No, but it's a few days yet, so as long as I get it from one of you soonish. | 16:17 |
| superm1 | mdomsch, sorry i got disconnected yesterday when you mentioned my name w/o a log. what was needed? | 16:20 |
| mdomsch | I had a bug at one point against kde-guidance, needing new MonitorsDB file from upstream | 16:20 |
| mdomsch | the copy in the kde-guidance upstream tarball is by definition out of date | 16:21 |
| superm1 | you said that you have some of those guys using hwdatadb on the same page, i'm guessing kde-guidance isn't? | 16:21 |
| mdomsch | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/157321 | 16:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 157321 in kde-guidance "28 new Dell monitors for MonitorsDB file" [High,Fix released] | 16:22 |
| ScottK | So the question would be are there more? | 16:22 |
| superm1 | everything is marked fix released on that bug? | 16:22 |
| mdomsch | says 'fix released', but there are plenty more... | 16:23 |
| mdomsch | in fact, exactly 29 | 16:23 |
| mdomsch | 28 more | 16:23 |
| ScottK | superm1: I'm uploading a new kde-guidance after the freeze is over, so I'd like to get that wrapped up into it. | 16:23 |
| superm1 | ScottK, should just be a matter of grabbing the latest MonitorsDB on that git tree i'd expect | 16:24 |
| superm1 | and dropping it in place | 16:24 |
| mdomsch | ScottK, http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/hwdata.git?p=hwdata.git;a=blob_plain;f=MonitorsDB;hb=HEAD | 16:24 |
| mdomsch | is the new upstream for that file | 16:25 |
| mdomsch | superm1, right | 16:25 |
| ScottK | OK. I can do that. | 16:25 |
| superm1 | mdomsch, ScottK realistically i think it'd be a better idea to stop shipping different MonitorsDB files in different packages, but rather symlink to a "single" MonitorsDB and keep that in sync (add it as a dependency to all the others) | 16:26 |
| superm1 | it's probably too late to do that for this cycle, but its something we should look at doing for Intrepid | 16:26 |
| ScottK | superm1: I agree. | 16:27 |
| ScottK | Both with doing and it's to late for this cycle. | 16:27 |
| mdomsch | superm1, I agree too | 16:27 |
| mdomsch | the hwdata package in hardy is up-to-date right now with the hwdata git tree | 16:27 |
| superm1 | ScottK, so if you want to have a small BoF at UDS this time around, all that can get organized there | 16:27 |
| mdomsch | that's where I would expect to see the file live, and kde-guidance get a dep on hwdata | 16:28 |
| superm1 | i can write a spec for it | 16:28 |
| ScottK | superm1: Please do. We need to totally revisist displayconfig for Kubuntu for Intrepid in any case. | 16:28 |
| superm1 | alrighty :) | 16:28 |
| mdomsch | huh, hwdata shouldn't be quite up-to-date, let me rerun my script | 16:29 |
| ScottK | mdomsch: It'll be a bit before I get to it. | 16:30 |
| mdomsch | hwdata is in main btw, as is kde-guidance, so no cross problems there | 16:31 |
| ScottK | mdomsch: Could you also please add this monitor while you're adding so I don't have to maintain it as an Kubuntu unique difference: Bug #192899 | 16:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 192899 in kde-guidance "New monitor Viewsonic VA702B in MonitorsDB" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192899 | 16:32 |
| mdomsch | ScottK, sure, one sec | 16:32 |
| mdomsch | ScottK, pushed upstream | 16:36 |
| ScottK | Great. | 16:36 |
| mdomsch | ScottK, if you're going to have a bunch of those, we can get you commit rights on the upstream repo | 16:38 |
| ScottK | mdomsch: I probably won't. I only hit that one because I'm preparing an kdeguidance upload and was trying to cherrypick through the other open bugs and get the easy ones. | 16:38 |
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| ScottK | DarkSun88: Around? | 18:06 |
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| mathiaz | ScottK: for libdb transition, which package should be used in the build-dep: libdb4.6-dev or libdb-dev ? | 19:05 |
| zul | libdb4.6 | 19:06 |
| ScottK | mathiaz: I'd use libdb4.6-dev so you aren't suprised | 19:06 |
| mathiaz | Are grepping for transactions in the source code is enough ? | 19:06 |
| zul | mathiaz: im working on cyrus-imap its a bit more complicated | 19:06 |
| mathiaz | or is it transaction ? | 19:06 |
| ScottK | zul: What I told them to do was grep for the word transaction in the package and leave it alone if they found it. | 19:07 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: ok - thanks. | 19:07 |
| zul | ScottK: ah ok | 19:07 |
| ScottK | Trying to get less experienced folks to knock out some of the easy ones. | 19:08 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: and by them you mean ? | 19:08 |
| ScottK | mathiaz: You and others when we discussed it in the server team meetings | 19:08 |
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| mathiaz | ScottK: ok. | 19:08 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: if transactions are used, what are the issues ? migration ? API breaks ? | 19:09 |
| ScottK | You have to migrate the data to a new structure. | 19:09 |
| ScottK | mathiaz: Look at pitti's liddb4.6 transition patch in cyrus-sasl2 for an example. | 19:09 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: ok. So existing datas have to be migrated. However the source code doesn't need to be updated ? | 19:10 |
| ScottK | As I understand it, yes. | 19:11 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: ok. Thanks :) | 19:11 |
| zul | mathiaz: however some the api has changed as well like smtpguard | 19:12 |
| zul | and cryus-imap as well | 19:12 |
| mathiaz | zul: when do you catch that error ? when building the package ? | 19:13 |
| zul | correct | 19:13 |
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| \sh | re | 19:23 |
| rulus | persia: FYI, the new gnuvd is in Hardy now :) | 19:39 |
| * \sh hates wireshark ,-)= | 19:49 | |
| hellboy195 | \sh: uhh updating wine right now. *Love ya* :D | 19:51 |
| \sh | hellboy195: beer at linuxtag is appreciated ;) | 19:52 |
| hellboy195 | \sh: I would do it if I'd be there :\ | 19:52 |
| \sh | hellboy195: you need to come :) | 19:53 |
| hellboy195 | \sh: no time, no money :( | 19:53 |
| * ScottK hands \sh https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment#Removals | 19:53 | |
| ScottK | ;-) | 19:53 |
| \sh | ScottK: lol yeah...it would be better if we could just inject new upstream versions for wireshark...that would stop my headaches ;) | 19:54 |
| \sh | cherrypicking patches is boring ;) | 19:54 |
| \sh | and bug # | 19:54 |
| \sh | bug #172283 is really a long list...downto dapper;) | 19:55 |
| ScottK | Personally I have a very strong policy of never running wireshark on a machine that's not well hidden behind an external firewall. I assume it's got security trouble. | 19:56 |
| ScottK | If I have to do stuff on the internet I use tcpdump. | 19:56 |
| \sh | ScottK: I wonder really who the guys are finding out all those issues...I think they don't have a real life(tm) | 19:57 |
| ScottK | It's a popular package. They do say that with enough eyes all bugs are shallow. | 19:57 |
| \sh | ScottK: yes, but presenting a malicious mp3 is really art | 19:58 |
| ScottK | Yes, but the world if full of artists. | 19:58 |
| \sh | -ERIGHT:) | 19:59 |
| ScottK | Last night I went with my wife to see a seamstress about making a dress for her (my brother is getting married next month). While we were there she was trying to go to the web site of a dress pattern maker and apparently get a typo. | 19:59 |
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| ScottK | She ended up with a pop-up recommending she download some 'security' software. | 20:00 |
| ScottK | Fortunately she thought before clicking to accept the install and asked me (knowing I know a bit about computers) | 20:00 |
| ScottK | Dunno what would have happened if I hadn't been there. | 20:00 |
| \sh | ScottK: I hope she bought you a nice old bottle of <insert your fav drink here> | 20:01 |
| ScottK | Well she and my wife are still haggling the price of making the dress. I'm hopin it factors in there. | 20:01 |
| \sh | hehe | 20:02 |
| \sh | bah....one CVE but already fixed with an old one...what the heck are they doing | 20:21 |
| emgent | good night people | 21:06 |
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| * Fujitsu incinerates scipy. | 21:10 | |
| ScottK | Yeah! | 21:10 |
| Fujitsu | I think I've finally got it building on all archs. | 21:11 |
| Fujitsu | It doesn't like it on any arch if LDFLAGS is set at all, but works with FFLAGS set everywhere except amd64. | 21:11 |
| DktrKranz | ScottK, do native packages require a FFe if they ship only bugfixes? | 21:27 |
| ScottK | No. | 21:27 |
| DktrKranz | Thanks. | 21:28 |
| \sh | oh damn... | 21:39 |
| RAOF | \sh: So wine joy? | 21:40 |
| \sh | RAOF: much better...my second package I'm buggin in, wireshark | 21:40 |
| RAOF | \sh: Oooh, someone's fixed dh_strip for wine, too! | 21:49 |
| \sh | RAOF: na..the fix is -X ;) | 21:50 |
| \sh | RAOF: but that was already in my local debian/ dir | 21:50 |
| RAOF | Oh. Well, it's still 1/3 the size of before :) | 21:50 |
| \sh | RAOF: well, it should have the size of gutsy again (with some bytes more) | 21:53 |
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| mathiaz | zul: can you have a look at bug 182571 and include it in the samba merge ? | 23:14 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 182571 in samba "smb.conf(5): Poor backspace escaping" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182571 | 23:14 |
| slangasek | yuck, what's it take to fix the tools being used to generate the manpages? | 23:17 |
| ScottK | jdong: Ignoring the Main/Universe split for backports is definitely there again. Please complain. | 23:42 |
| jdong | ScottK: bug filed | 23:47 |
| ScottK | Great. | 23:47 |
| jdong | now we... wait :D | 23:47 |
| phoenix24 | Any tool/program to wrap a text file in 80-col format ? | 23:48 |
| ScottK | kate? | 23:49 |
| geser | par? | 23:54 |
| ScottK | vim? | 23:57 |
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