[00:02] <directhex> you can configure assorted auto shutdown/wakeup stuff, but i've never sued it
[00:04] <staind9383> is there a way to build shutdown / reboot into the menus in myth?  i think that i saw that on a knoppmyth image once
[00:06] <rhpot1991> staind9383: I think mythwelcome has them, not sure if it works or not
[00:18] <wilberfan> directhex: you mean in myth itself?
[00:20] <directhex> yeah, in myth
[00:21] <wilberfan> directhex:  must be on one of those (myriad) config screens, huh?
[00:21] <directhex> probably
[00:22] <directhex> yiou can never have too many config screens
[00:22] <directhex> just look at kde!
[00:22] <wilberfan> if you shutdown via...er, "shutdown"--is that a problem...?
[00:22] <wilberfan> lol
[00:28] <directhex> no idea
[00:30] <wilberfan> i'm beginning to think it might not be possible to do this from within mythtv... (been doing some reading...)
[00:56] <staind9383> this might not be the right place to ask this.... but where/what dir can i put a private key file so that i can login via ssh using keys instead of passwords
[00:59] <tgm4883_laptop> staind9383, http://www.debuntu.org/ssh-key-based-authentication
[01:00] <staind9383> thanks
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[01:33] <staind9383> so OpenGL support seems to eat CPU when i am on the menu idling...  Basically when i am on the menus doing nothing else, one of my cpu cores maxes out -100% usage by mythfrontend.re.  When i took off open gl menus, this stopped happening
[01:34] <staind9383> is this completely strange?
[01:35] <rhpot1991> well opengl does menu stuff like fading in and out so its not completely strange
[01:35] <rhpot1991> are you using generic graphics drivers?
[01:36] <staind9383> this was what i was seeing last night.  I am using the restricted nvidia drivers
[01:36] <directhex> it's a myth/theme prolem
[01:37] <directhex> some themes define an "alphapulse" - a pulsing element. there is no limit to how fast it pulses - it's cpu limited
[01:37] <directhex> hence 100% cpu use
[01:37] <staind9383> do you think that it is specific to the theme that i am using or just a general prob and the fix would be to use QT menus for now
[01:37] <staind9383> i see
[01:37] <directhex> it's both. a different theme, or the qt painter, both eliminate the issue
[01:40] <staind9383> that worked
[01:40] <staind9383> thanks
[02:13] <wilberfan> well..drat.
[02:14] <wilberfan> I don't think my frontend is talking to the backend (so-to-speak)...
[02:14] <wilberfan> i don't think the xfs partition is getting mounted (but i have no idea why)
[02:15] <wilberfan> the fstab seems to be ok...
[02:16] <wilberfan_> no...wait..it IS getting mounted...
[02:17] <wilberfan_> ...i think this happened before:  if the permissions of the 'recording' partition aren't correct, things won't start up correctly....
[02:17] <wilberfan_> anyone know about recording partition permissions and myth?
[02:18] <wilberfan_> "Could not connect to the master backend server"
[02:19] <rhpot1991> mind is 777'd
[02:19] <rhpot1991> s/mind/mine
[02:20] <rhpot1991> you can prob just get away with making mythtv or the user running mythtv as the owner/group
[02:20] <staind9383> anyone know how to get channel icons?  the link in the wiki to the mkiconmap.pl script is dead
[02:22] <wilberfan> as i recall (?) the permissions of the recording partition have to be the same as....something...
[02:22] <wilberfan> i can get the front end to start...(I can watch videos from a different partition)...but no backend I guess?
[02:25] <wilberfan> and why on earth does the keyboard STOP functioning sometimes???
[02:25] <wilberfan> arrrrgh!!
[02:26] <wilberfan> the keyboard WONT work...but the remote DOES?!  WTF
[02:29] <staind9383> is there any way to keep the OSD across the whole screen when switching from HD to SD?
[02:32] <npurciful> I am having a problem getting my hdhr to work via dhcp connect to my computer
[02:33] <wilberfan__> I'm the owner of the recording partition and the group is 'root'...is that correct?   or should "mythtv" be in there somewhere??
[02:38] <wilberfan__> directhex, you around....?
[02:47] <wilberfan> any dip left?
[02:51] <tgm4883_laptop> wilberfan, the owner:group should be mythtv:mythtv
[02:52] <wilberfan> i thought maybe so...
[02:52] <wilberfan> what's the command to change that....?   chmod?
[02:53] <staind9383> apparently my cable provider does not implment the 5c flag at all... i can record everythin through firewire
[02:53] <staind9383> sweet
[02:53] <wilberfan__> tgm4883_laptop, i don't use that command often enough to remember it...
[02:54] <tgm4883_laptop> sudo chown mythtv:mythtv dir
[02:54] <nettow0822> what desktop does mythbuntu 8.04 use?
[02:55] <tgm4883_laptop> xfce4
[02:55] <wilberfan__> tgm4883_laptop, just the subdir (the recording one) or it's parent, too?
[02:55] <tgm4883_laptop> wilberfan, depends on what dir you are in
[02:55] <tgm4883_laptop> but you can do the full path and that would work
[02:55] <wilberfan__> not sure what you mean...?
[02:55] <tgm4883_laptop> just use the full path
[02:55] <tgm4883_laptop> for instance
[02:55] <tgm4883_laptop> /var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[02:55] <tgm4883_laptop> where is yours mounted?
[02:56] <wilberfan__> "/mythdata/recordings"
[02:57] <wilberfan__> so, "sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /mythdata/recordings"?
[02:58] <wilberfan__> lets see if that works
[02:59] <wilberfan__> that would be a "woo-hoo!"
[02:59] <wilberfan__> yep, that was the problemo....
[02:59] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[02:59] <wilberfan__> so just one last problem (i think):
[03:00] <wilberfan__> how do i make the front end show up on the TV--and not the monitor...?
[03:00] <wilberfan__> I have the TV configured (and have a desktop showing)...
[03:00] <wilberfan__> it's "to the right" of the monitor...
[03:01] <wilberfan__> but myth starts up on the LCD (not the TV)
[03:10] <staind9383> wilberfan__: i had that problem when i first started testing out myth... i didnt intend on keeping the monitor there permanently though, so i ended up just usingthe TV
[03:10] <staind9383> i was tryin out component out at the time though, whicxh didnt work as well as vga
[03:10] <staind9383> for the tv that is
[03:13] <wilberfan> this is essentially a reinstall of myth (it got severly borked last night)...
[03:13] <nettow0822> Is it much trouble to change to gnome if I need too (xfce4 mythbuntu 8.04)?
[03:13] <wilberfan> ...only, instead of installing a _separate_ mythbuntu...i just installed it this morning under an existing gutsy...
[03:14] <tgm4883_laptop> nettow0822, no, it's a simple click in MCC
[03:14] <wilberfan> the clean install of mythbuntu (not under gutsy) results in some kind of configuration (automatically) that starts up on the tv and not the monitor...
[03:14] <nettow0822> great ty
[03:15] <wilberfan> if the tv is powered on during the install...it recognized it and made it 'default' somehow...
[03:15] <staind9383> strange
[03:15] <nettow0822> I'm still having the xine /mythtv problem.....going to try a newer version of myth
[03:15] <wilberfan> but under this mornings "add mythtv to gutsy" install, i had to manually ADD the tv as a 2nd screen....
[03:16] <wilberfan> it IS sending signals to the CRT...but just a duplication of my desktop...
[03:16] <wilberfan> there's gotta be a fairly straightforward way of making the CRT (S-Video) the "default" screen when the frontend fires up...?
[03:17] <wilberfan> i've poked around in nvidia-settings...but not sure what i'm looking for...
[03:17] <staind9383> wish i knew more to help you out :(
[03:19] <wilberfan> wonder if i have to do something to the xorg.conf....?
[03:24] <foxbuntu> wilberfan, if you plug the tv into the video card and restart X does it pickup the tv
[03:25] <wilberfan__> foxbuntu, the tv is always plugged into the video card...
[03:25] <wilberfan__> Here's a comparison of the 'old' xorg (that defaulted to the TV) and the 'new' one:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5297/
[03:26] <wilberfan__> (i think the old config only had one device listed, to begin with!)
[03:27] <wilberfan__> wonder if this makes a diff:
[03:27] <wilberfan__> Option		"UseDisplayDevice"	"TV"
[03:27] <wilberfan__> 	Option		"TVOutFormat"	"SVIDEO"
[03:27] <wilberfan__> 	Option		"TVStandard"	"NTSC-M"
[03:28] <wilberfan__> or, maybe line 112:  Option         "Xinerama" "0"
[03:28] <wilberfan__> ???
[03:29] <wilberfan__> I'm afraid i'm in over my head with xorg configging!!
[03:30] <staind9383> how can you get the video and recording files to show up as downloadable links in mythweb?
[03:30] <staind9383> or streamable for that matter
[03:31] <foxbuntu> wilberfan, why not replace the current xorg with the old one?
[03:32] <wilberfan> hmmm.... that might be worth trying, huh...?
[03:32] <foxbuntu> staind9383, they can only be streamed in .21
[03:32] <staind9383> i see
[03:32] <staind9383> same for downloaded>
[03:32] <wilberfan> foxbuntu: although i WOULD like to know how to 'fix' the current xorg...
[03:33] <foxbuntu> no you should be able to download in .20
[03:33] <wilberfan> just for the sake of learning and understanding...
[03:33] <foxbuntu> wilberfan, it looks to me like the current one is missing the correct monitor section, Video card settings and Screen settings
[03:33] <staind9383> is there a specific setting for that to enable the doanload links?
[03:34] <foxbuntu> staind9383, there is no setting...its just part of mythweb
[03:34] <staind9383> hmm
[03:34] <staind9383> they dont seem to work for me
[03:34] <wilberfan__> foxbuntu, keep in mind that i started with a 'working' Gutsy install (and no TV settings), and then ADDED the TV screen via nvidia-settings... (and then 'merged' them)....
[03:35] <wilberfan__> foxbuntu, that's undoubtedly why tv-oriented stuff might be missing?
[03:35] <wilberfan__> ?
[03:35] <foxbuntu> prob
[03:35] <staind9383> ok so the recordings seem to work as downloadable.. not so much the videos
[03:36] <foxbuntu> staind9383, videos wont
[03:36] <foxbuntu> staind9383, videos show up in .21
[03:36] <staind9383> i see
[03:42] <foxbuntu> wilberfan__, there is some good docs and wiki's on setting up Twinview for nvidia out, just google for it and you will find out what you are missing
[03:43] <staind9383> thanks for the help guys
[03:43] <staind9383> i'm headed out for the night
[04:02] <wilberfan> hmmm.  my remote (pvr-350) works ok with the menus and shows i've recorded...but NOT with my downloaded videos, etc....
[04:02] <wilberfan> once the video is started (via the remote) no pausing, no jumping ahead, no volume control, etc...
[04:08] <tgm4883_laptop> wilberfan, what do you play the videos with?
[04:08] <wilberfan> you mean what proggie?
[04:09] <wilberfan> whatever is the 'default' with myth, i guess...?
[04:09] <wilberfan> what IS default with myth...?
[04:10] <tgm4883_laptop> internal player
[04:11] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop: i didn't intentionally change it or anything...
[04:11] <wilberfan> although i did select the option in the setup to install those other 2 or 3 players...
[04:11] <wilberfan> vlc and mplayer and...?
[04:12] <tgm4883_laptop> what remote?
[04:12] <wilberfan> the one that comes with the PVR-350....
[04:13] <wilberfan> "A415-HPG-A"
[04:15] <tgm4883_laptop> probably just need to generate some codes for it then
[04:15] <tgm4883_laptop> you should be able to do that in MCC
[04:16] <wilberfan> hmmm....
[04:18] <wilberfan> i don't see a lot of options there...
[04:18] <wilberfan> "generate dynamic button mappings"??
[04:18] <wilberfan> i have no idea what that means...
[04:21] <tgm4883_laptop> check that
[04:22] <wilberfan> ok...there's a progress bar....
[04:23] <wilberfan> ok, now it's gone...  the MCC screen is back, and that "dynamic" box is UNCHECKED again...
[04:23] <wilberfan> is that normal?
[04:24] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, unban me
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> that was an accident
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[04:28] <wilberfan> tgm4883_laptop: success on the remote situation...
[04:28] <wilberfan> :)
[04:28] <tgm4883_laptop> good to hear
[04:35] <wilberfan> ok.  i'm whipped.  perhaps more tomorrow...  thanks to EVERYone who helped out this morning and again this evening...
[04:36] <wilberfan> (loving the new theme and colors, btw!)
[06:22] <wilberfan> that's REALLY disapointing!!:
[06:22] <wilberfan> i thought it would be fixed by now:   every time I delete the only remaining recording...myth locks up.
[06:22] <wilberfan> damn...
[11:39] <citybird> hi, question about controlling set top boxes. where can i get one of those ir controllers to change the channel of the set top box from the computer?
[11:39] <directhex|bsp> an ir blaster?
[11:39] <citybird> is there a list of controllers that work with mythbuntu?
[11:39] <citybird> ir blaster is that what it's called??
[11:39] <directhex|bsp> googling for "ir blaster" works. i believe you get one with the xp media center remote, too
[11:40] <citybird> ah
[11:40] <citybird> didn't know that it sends as well
[11:42] <citybird> and this works with mythbuntu.
[11:42] <citybird> dam it's cheap!!
[11:59] <citybird> oooo, a 64-bit version. how well does that work??
[12:01] <directhex|bsp> not very well, if you have a 32-bit cpu
[12:15] <citybird> heh. ok, ill check that first.
[12:16] <citybird> i have a couple of boxen lying around that i can stick this into for testing...
[17:10] <javatexan> hey guys...finally dug out from that pile of work and now I am ready to get started writing a plugin for mythbuntu.  How is the best way to go about this exactly....is there a development workspace for mythtv or do I have to install it and then just make changes to that version of it?
[17:13] <javatexan> does mythtv have a testing db, fake inputs, etc ....just curious before I head off too far into the weeds
[17:17] <npurciful> hey i got my HDHomeRun and DHCP installed but HDHR_config cant find device, I have it detect connect to my network card via a crossover cable. Can someone help please
[17:38] <pdragon> might want to try the forums if no one here is answering
[18:11] <npurciful> canone here help my with direct connecting my HDhomerun?
[18:43] <Chi11y> hmm
[18:43] <npurciful> Can someone help me with HDHR direct connect please
[18:43] <Chi11y> I have a computer that is exactly right on the minimum sysreqs, how bad would it run?
[18:44] <adaptr> "exactly right" for what ?
[18:45] <tgm4883> Chi11y, what do you mean exactly right?
[18:45] <Chi11y> well, not excatly right
[18:45] <Chi11y> they are spot on
[18:45] <tgm4883> AFAIK, it's a range
[18:45] <tgm4883> lets do it this way
[18:45] <tgm4883> Chi11y, what are your system specs
[18:45] <Chi11y> tgm4883: exactly the same as what is called "minimum syste requirements" on the site
[18:46] <Chi11y> 1.0 GHz x86
[18:46] <Chi11y> 192 MB of system memory (RAM)
[18:46] <Chi11y> and a huge hd
[18:46] <tgm4883> what tuner card?\
[18:46] <Chi11y> no tuner card, I'm not gonna use fo TV, but more as a media center
[18:47] <tgm4883> you should be fine then, providing that you don't try to play HD content
[18:47] <tgm4883> or processor intensive video
[18:47] <Chi11y> okey, well I wont play no HD
[18:47] <Chi11y> nice :)
[18:48] <Chi11y> then I'll check mythbuntu out as media center when I have time, thank you very much! :)
[18:58] <adaptr> Chi11y: 192MB is enough if you don't use a desktop
[18:58] <Chi11y> adaptr: okey nice :)
[18:58] <adaptr> with a desktop and firefox, for instance, it quickly rises to 400MB
[18:59]  * adaptr cannot live without amaroK, so desktop it is regardless
[19:01] <Chi11y> heh
[19:01] <Chi11y> I have lighter distros as desktop ;)
[19:01] <adaptr> a distro is not a desktop
[19:02] <adaptr> it typically HAS a desktop
[19:02] <Chi11y> well, as desktop distro, keke? ;)
[19:03] <adaptr> again, a distro isn't typically light or heavy
[19:04] <adaptr> for simplicity, one could say that KDE is heavier than Gnome, which is a lot heavier than XFCE
[19:04] <Chi11y> it sure can be
[19:04] <adaptr> I wouldn't run anything but XFCE on 192 MB
[19:04] <Chi11y> yeah
[19:04] <adaptr> and probably not even that
[19:04] <Chi11y> lol it would
[19:04] <Chi11y> whatya know? :P
[19:04] <Chi11y> I've actually used gnome + compiz on that computer
[19:04] <Chi11y> it lags abit though
[19:04] <Chi11y> but runs pretty decent
[19:05] <Chi11y> that required some hacking though :P
[19:35] <alexvd> Anyone here have mythtv registered to asterisk to do caller id screen pops.  It keeps crashing the frontend. I think its a bug
[19:36] <Tuv0k> report it
[20:12] <KjetilK> what's the recommended way to start mtd on mythbuntu?
[21:47] <gleed> hey, someone wanna help out a newb? Trying to get my mythbuntu to play movies that are packed in .rars without unpacking them?
[21:50] <npurciful> hello anyone have the time to help my setup HDHomeRun direct connect to pc cant seem to get dhcp right
[21:53] <frank23> I'm testing out mythbuntu alpha3. Problem is I can't setup my wireless network connection. The network is WPA encrypted. The network settings menu in Mythbuntu is completely grayed out
[22:31] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: whats your verdict on the storage groups?
[23:10] <nettow0822> Hey all
[23:10] <nettow0822> after mythbuntu 8.04 is installed...should I do any updates?
[23:11] <WcktKlwn> updates are a good thing
[23:11] <nettow0822> ok ty
[23:22] <nettow0822> is it possible to setup a file manager like gksudo nautilus in xfce?
[23:33] <nettow0822> what is the graphical text editor in xfce?