| faulkes- | nijaba: it hasn't started as of yet actually | 00:21 |
|---|---|---|
| * faulkes- was in negotiations all day | 00:21 | |
| faulkes- | I should have it going tomorrow as I have a free day, well, "mostly" free | 00:22 |
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| * kgoetz discovers he has no /proc/acpi under 7.10, but this doesnt crash - therefor the problem is with 8.04 :( | 01:54 | |
| kgoetz | afk lunch | 01:57 |
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| Bambi_BOFH | back | 02:38 |
| rhineheart_m | Is courier-imap has Poppassd service? | 02:44 |
| Bambi_BOFH | rhineheart_m: what? | 02:44 |
| rhineheart_m | Bambi_BOFH: yeah.. Poppassd service... | 02:44 |
| rhineheart_m | Bambi_BOFH: I need it for change_passwd by PAM authentication for my squirrelmail.. | 02:44 |
| Bambi_BOFH | that didnt clear it up | 02:44 |
| Bambi_BOFH | i see. i suggest searching the web for info | 02:45 |
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| kgoetz | pschulz01: we forgot http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080302 | 05:59 |
| Gide0n | could somebody help me with a question about setting up a routing table? | 06:55 |
| kraut | moin | 07:38 |
| sergevn | Doesn anyone has any experience with dhcp3-server and failover? | 08:10 |
| henkjan | sergevn: are you going to ask the every day? ;) | 08:13 |
| sergevn | henkjan: yes :) | 08:13 |
| sergevn | henkjan: ;) | 08:13 |
| henkjan | do you realy need failover? | 08:13 |
| sergevn | henkjan: yes | 08:14 |
| henkjan | i've heard only horror stories about failover | 08:14 |
| sergevn | henkjan: I know how to configure it, but it aint working :D | 08:15 |
| _ruben | search the dhcp users mailinglist archives .. its a rather hot topic overthere | 08:15 |
| kraut | sergevn: yes. did that answer helped you!? | 08:15 |
| henkjan | 2 dhcp-server witch their own scope isnt an option? | 08:15 |
| kraut | dhcp failover is a major pain into the ass... | 08:15 |
| sergevn | henkjan: if the secondary takes over, it says it holds all leases | 08:15 |
| sergevn | kraut: yeah im getting that picture the last 2 days | 08:16 |
| soren_ | Hm... I've never tried it, but it sounds pretty straight forward? | 08:18 |
| soren_ | Assuming some sort of monitoring mechanism takes care of switching them, what's left to do but copy the leases from the active to the passive node? | 08:19 |
| _ruben | strange .. ps aux sorts procs by pid, tho im used to them being sorted by starttime (on suse boxes) .. guess i'll have to dive into the manpage :p | 08:30 |
| _ruben | ps auxkstart_time .. lets see if that can be made a default somehow | 08:32 |
| henkjan | sergevn: just configure 2 dhcp servers with both the same scope | 08:40 |
| henkjan | sergevn: a client request an adress by broadcast. Both (or more) dhcp answer: 'pick this adress'. Client takes the adress and answers in broadcast, 'i take this adress'. Both (or more) dhcp servers update their leases file | 08:41 |
| henkjan | thats how we are running it | 08:41 |
| soren_ | Yeah, I really don't see the problem. Identical configuration, sync leases info from active to passive node. When disaster strikes, start dhcp server on the passive node. Go. | 08:41 |
| henkjan | you don't need to sync leases | 08:42 |
| soren_ | henkjan: AH, yes, that's even better. | 08:42 |
| soren_ | henkjan: I never tried. Didn't know dhcpd was clever enough to do that. | 08:42 |
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| sergevn | henkjan: so if you run 2 dhcp servers in the same network | 08:53 |
| sergevn | henkjan: they know about each others leases by defaul? | 08:54 |
| pppZero | hi, eth0 isnt starting on boot (ifup eth0 starts it correctly though) where do i start looking? | 08:54 |
| soren_ | pppZero: In /etc/network/interfaces | 08:55 |
| nijaba | morning | 08:55 |
| soren_ | pppZero: It needs to say "auto eth0" somewhere. | 08:55 |
| pppZero | soren let it be known for the record, i love you! | 08:56 |
| pwnguin | heh | 08:56 |
| henkjan | sergevn: a client will answer with an broadcast. Both dhcp server receive that broacast en place the mentioned ip the leases file | 08:56 |
| sergevn | henkjan: aaaaaaaah ok | 08:56 |
| henkjan | sergevn: thats exactly how we are running it with 4 dhcp servers | 08:56 |
| * soren_ hugs pppZero | 08:57 | |
| henkjan | well, did it earn an VT enabled pc with this answer? | 08:59 |
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| sergevn | henkjan: problem nr2, it has to be compatible with dynamic dns | 08:59 |
| henkjan | hmm | 09:00 |
| pppZero | sergven i've got a setup going here with dhcp + djbdns + a perl script that adds hostnames to djbdns as windows boxen take out leases, give me a minute or 10 to find the link | 09:00 |
| pppZero | if you want to use bind, I've got no idea how its done, probably some changes to how it writes files should suffice, but heres the link: | 09:03 |
| pppZero | http://www.thismetalsky.org/projects/dhcp_dns.xml | 09:03 |
| sergevn | henkjan: im testing it right now, 2 dhcp servers in 1 subnet, same range etc. | 09:05 |
| sergevn | henkjan: but if i get lease from 1 server, shut that server down. | 09:06 |
| sergevn | henkjan: do another dhcp request, im getting the same ip | 09:06 |
| henkjan | thats what you want, right? | 09:06 |
| sergevn | henkjan: yes, but not duplicate leases | 09:06 |
| henkjan | hmm, how are you testing it? | 09:07 |
| sergevn | henkjan: havent released the old one yet, and getting the same one (as old) from other server | 09:07 |
| spiekey | Morning everybody :) | 09:07 |
| henkjan | a proper dhcpclient will answer with a broadcast | 09:07 |
| sergevn | henkjan: using dhclient | 09:07 |
| henkjan | sergevn: thats exactly what you want. The second dhcp server knows your lease, so it gives you the same ipadress | 09:08 |
| sergevn | henkjan: hmm | 09:09 |
| pppZero | the dhcp server seems to give the same ip to a machine as long as it can, i've got a computer here thats been on the same IP for about 3 years, and thats though endless reboots, OS installs and power outages | 09:13 |
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| slafko | hello everyone...i need help with ssh | 10:12 |
| henkjan | slafko: what is your problem? | 10:13 |
| slafko | i want to connect to server with ssh, but I got error "Host key verification failed" | 10:13 |
| henkjan | the server seems to have a different hostkey than the key you have in .ssh/known_hosts | 10:13 |
| slafko | how to fix it? | 10:14 |
| slafko | ok, I solved the problem | 10:18 |
| slafko | thanks! | 10:18 |
| henkjan | you can remove the corresponding line from ~/.ssh/known_hosts | 10:18 |
| henkjan | ah, to late :) | 10:18 |
| sergevn | what is an good application for emailing system reports | 12:02 |
| sergevn | no, i dont like to create manual scripts :P | 12:02 |
| zul | logwatch? | 12:03 |
| nijaba | sergevn: yep, logwatch is great, even though rules can be a pain sometimes to get right | 12:04 |
| faulkes- | morning nijaba | 12:13 |
| nijaba | hello faulkes- | 12:14 |
| faulkes- | well, that was nice, I think I actually slept for 12 hours solid | 12:16 |
| sergevn | nijaba: logrotate is installed by default i see, doesnt lolrotate have the same functionality as logwatch | 12:17 |
| sergevn | nijaba: lolrotate = logrotate :D | 12:18 |
| nijaba | sergevn: not IIRC. logrotate changes the logfile and archive old one only | 12:18 |
| nijaba | sergevn: it can mail them eventually, but with no filtering at all | 12:18 |
| * faulkes- nods | 12:19 | |
| sergevn | nijaba: ok, so i installed logwatch, i see it puts it script in cron.daily. | 12:20 |
| nijaba | logwatch will allow you to set regexp to be looked for in multiple log file and periodically mail you the matching lines of all watched log files in a single email | 12:20 |
| sergevn | nijaba: but aint i getting the same log each day now? | 12:20 |
| nijaba | sergevn: nope, only the lines that matches your regexp will be sent | 12:21 |
| nijaba | sergevn: look at the default config, it is a good safe start | 12:21 |
| sergevn | nijaba: noob Q: what is regexp | 12:21 |
| faulkes- | regular expressions | 12:21 |
| nijaba | sergevn: regexp = regular expression | 12:21 |
| sergevn | nijaba: /etc/logwatch doesnt contain any config files :D | 12:22 |
| henkjan | sergevn: we have a customer running logcheck on his colocated machine | 12:24 |
| nijaba | sergevn: I realize I have been speaking of logwatch when thinking of logcheck | 12:29 |
| * nijaba feels silly | 12:29 | |
| sergevn | nijaba: so you didnt mean logwatch in the first place ? :D | 12:32 |
| nijaba | sergevn: both seem to do similar things but with a different architecture. yeah, I meant logcheck as it is what I am using, but logwatch should work as well | 12:33 |
| henkjan | logwatch - log analyser with nice output written in Perl | 12:33 |
| henkjan | logcheck - mails anomalies in the system logfiles to the administrator | 12:33 |
| zul | nijaba: you need more coffee | 12:33 |
| henkjan | nijaba needs to send me an VT enabled computer :) | 12:33 |
| nijaba | zul: right... I'll be back after another load of caffeine | 12:33 |
| nijaba | zul: jetlag... | 12:34 |
| zul | nijaba: sure sure :) | 12:34 |
| faulkes- | both are going to match on regexp though iirc | 12:35 |
| henkjan | logcheck-database - database of system log rules for the use of log checkers | 12:35 |
| henkjan | logchech has a database available | 12:35 |
| henkjan | don't know about logwatch | 12:35 |
| faulkes- | rules just get interpreted | 12:35 |
| faulkes- | if you look in /etc/logcheck you'll notice that the files in there are all regexp based | 12:37 |
| nijaba | henkjan: I personally don't have any to send, but if you plan on doing something usefull with a vt machine for the community, let's talk about it | 12:37 |
| henkjan | nijaba: it was just joke, hence the smiley. But with an VT enable pc i could test a lot more on virtualisation | 12:39 |
| henkjan | currently running on 1Ghz PIII :) | 12:39 |
| nijaba | henkjan: I understood it as such. And I think we do need some tester on PIII machines as well, just to make sure the devs don't get too sloppy ;) | 12:41 |
| henkjan | hehe | 12:41 |
| henkjan | but KVM will only run with VT support right? | 12:42 |
| nijaba | henkjan: yep, we had to remove the full qemu emul because of it depending on a old gcc 3.4 version, IIRC | 12:43 |
| henkjan | ah, to bad for me :) | 12:43 |
| henkjan | but i'm happy with Xen | 12:43 |
| sommer | morning all | 13:41 |
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| faulkes- | morning sommer | 13:48 |
| zul | hi sommer | 13:49 |
| mohamed_ | hello all, how to know the running service on ubuntu server and how can i stop any of them ? | 14:14 |
| henkjan | start/stop with /etc/init.d/<service start|stop | 14:15 |
| mohamed_ | thx henkjan , i mean how to stop any permenant | 14:15 |
| mohamed_ | that next time don't start | 14:16 |
| henkjan | remove the symlink in /etc/rc3.d/S<number><servicename> | 14:16 |
| zul | or you can use update-rc.d | 14:17 |
| henkjan | ah, didnt know about that one | 14:17 |
| Apollo9 | When installing Ubuntu server, how can I disable automatic network configuration and enter a custom IP instead? | 14:18 |
| henkjan | Apollo9: edit /etc/network/interfaces | 14:18 |
| henkjan | man interfaces will give you enough information about what needs to be in that file | 14:19 |
| nijaba | Apollo9: you can also press esc during install when the dhcp config is taking place | 14:20 |
| nijaba | it will ask you what IP you want | 14:20 |
| henkjan | ah, during install time its easier indeed | 14:20 |
| mohamed_ | but in case if he connect to dhcp server then network will configured auto the first time, in this case maybe he disconnect network cable while install | 14:21 |
| Apollo9 | Thank you all :) | 14:23 |
| Apollo9 | Btw, how large should the swap area be on a relatively old PC (I'm installing it as a test server to toy around a bit)? Should it be large (like 700MB) to compensate for lacking RAM? | 14:30 |
| WaVeR | mohamed_, you can cancel the dhcp configuration (just press cancel when trying to get IP from dhcp) | 14:33 |
| mohamed_ | thx, WaVeR , for this info | 14:34 |
| henkjan | Apollo9: how much ram do you have? | 14:34 |
| WaVeR | welcome | 14:35 |
| henkjan | ram is cheap nowadays, you should avoid swapping | 14:35 |
| faulkes- | avoid? yes? always possible? no | 14:35 |
| * faulkes- whistles innocently about jvm app servers | 14:35 | |
| henkjan | eeew | 14:36 |
| Apollo9 | henkjan: 128 MB, but only 800 MHz | 14:36 |
| henkjan | 4626 tomcat5 15 0 4874m 1.5g 59m S 2.7 39.0 116:35.54 java | 14:36 |
| henkjan | Apollo9: 512M swap should be enough | 14:37 |
| faulkes- | if you only have 128mb, I would have at least 512mb of swap | 14:37 |
| Apollo9 | OK, thanks. | 14:37 |
| mohamed_ | is there a command to know the running services ? | 14:38 |
| faulkes- | the ps command | 14:39 |
| henkjan | but using that much swap makes your server unusable | 14:39 |
| faulkes- | although that will list all processes | 14:39 |
| faulkes- | see the ps man page | 14:39 |
| faulkes- | it all depends on what you plan to do with the server as a test | 14:40 |
| faulkes- | if it's just a LAMP stack, you should be fine | 14:40 |
| faulkes- | if it's a jvm app server test, you'll be in trouble | 14:40 |
| faulkes- | if it's just general learning and testing, you'll be fine | 14:41 |
| faulkes- | "mostly" | 14:41 |
| sommer | they mostly comem out at night... mostly | 14:42 |
| Apollo9 | henkjan: I'm pretty new to Linux. Can you please explain why using more swap makes it unusable? | 14:42 |
| henkjan | Apollo9: swap is slow | 14:43 |
| mohamed_ | if one use more ram , this mean that can't crate swap partation ? | 14:44 |
| mohamed_ | crate = create | 14:45 |
| faulkes- | you can always create a swap partition | 14:50 |
| faulkes- | the point I believe henkjan is trying to make is that swap is much slower than actual ram | 14:51 |
| faulkes- | because it is disk based | 14:51 |
| mohamed_ | e.g if i have 2 G ram in this case i can avoid swap ? | 14:51 |
| faulkes- | all depends on what you are doing with the server | 14:52 |
| faulkes- | I have yet to encounter any server that has not had a swap partition | 14:52 |
| faulkes- | even if you feel you will never run out of ram, best practices dictate that murphy's law will apply ;) | 14:53 |
| faulkes- | the short and sweet of it, create a swap partition just to be safe, even if it is never used | 14:54 |
| faulkes- | and swap partition sizing all depends on how much ram you have and what you expect the server to do, so its a variable amount (IMO) | 14:54 |
| faulkes- | if the server had 2gb of ram, I would personally give it 1gb of swap | 14:54 |
| mohamed_ | this is good then one safe in this case | 14:55 |
| faulkes- | safety is good ;) | 14:55 |
| mohamed_ | of course | 14:56 |
| faulkes- | you can't anticipate what or how much memory a given application will consume or if it has memory leaks | 14:56 |
| kirkland | faulkes-, mohamed_: there's a couple of different theories as to how much swap is the right amount | 14:56 |
| kirkland | when I have lots of hard disk, I give 2x RAM size to swap, which handles the theoretic worst case scenario of having to swap ALL of RAM out | 14:57 |
| faulkes- | and disk is cheap | 14:58 |
| kirkland | faulkes-: yep, most of the time | 14:58 |
| mohamed_ | kirkland, but if the system ram is enough and swap also exist system will not use swap till ram resources not enough ? | 14:58 |
| kirkland | faulkes-: I do have a mythtv machine that only has a 2GB SD card for a disk, and there, I have no swap at all | 14:58 |
| kirkland | mohamed_: right | 14:58 |
| faulkes- | it is very dependent, my opinion, on what the server is expected to do | 14:59 |
| kirkland | absolutely, I agree with that | 14:59 |
| kirkland | lately, I've been using swapfiles instead of swap partitions | 14:59 |
| rhineheart_m | hello...Is there a way to upgrade squirrelmail using terminal? | 14:59 |
| kirkland | allows me to allocate more and reclaim my swap space far more easily | 14:59 |
| faulkes- | kirkland: yes although thats a more advanced technique, for a new user | 15:00 |
| kirkland | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging recommends 1.5x RAM size, fwiw | 15:00 |
| Apollo9 | lol, after installation: /dev/hda1 has gone 49710 days without being checked, check forced. | 15:03 |
| faulkes- | that's typical | 15:07 |
| rhineheart_m | how to add users to imap without adding them into the system users? | 15:25 |
| \sh | does anybody work on grinder, e.g. for inclusion in ibex? | 15:58 |
| henkjan | !grinder | 16:00 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about grinder - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 16:00 |
| \sh | henkjan: http://grinder.sourceforge.net/ | 16:03 |
| henkjan | ah, i see | 16:03 |
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| faulkes- | question: once I create a project in LP, how do I create/add the trunk? after following it's directions I keep getting "not a branch" error from bzr | 17:41 |
| ScottK | faulkes-: --> #launchpad | 17:44 |
| mathiaz | faulkes-: did you push your branch to LP ? | 17:44 |
| mathiaz | faulkes-: I think you first need to push your branch and then you can set the trunk serie in the project. | 17:45 |
| zyx386 | hi all | 17:47 |
| faulkes- | mathiaz: it's a bit confusing as to how they want it done | 17:48 |
| zyx386 | what is ubuntu recomended server hosting(Virual Server)? | 17:48 |
| faulkes- | scottk: thanks, I'll ask there | 17:48 |
| zul | zyx386: kvm | 17:48 |
| zyx386 | i will bay Virtual Server | 17:48 |
| zyx386 | zul, can give the company link, | 17:49 |
| zul | zyx386: sorry its not a company i gave you the wrong info misfired | 17:50 |
| zyx386 | ok thanks, i choose company with virual server, but ubuntu basis? | 17:51 |
| zyx386 | for example www.server4you.com | 17:51 |
| zyx386 | can everyone tell me :) | 17:54 |
| engida | does a regular server install come with a GUI (DE and x-server)? | 18:29 |
| engida | if not, what is a lightweight window manager to install and what package/s? (Fluxbox?) | 18:30 |
| sommer | engida: you can find details here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI | 18:34 |
| engida | sommer: Thanks | 18:34 |
| sommer | np | 18:34 |
| mathiaz | sommer: is there a factoid for the server gui ? | 18:35 |
| mathiaz | !servergui | 18:35 |
| sommer | mathiaz: not that I know of | 18:38 |
| sommer | but that would make a good one... wouldn't have to lookup the site :-) | 18:38 |
| mathiaz | !servergui | 18:48 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about servergui - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 18:48 |
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| faulkes- | hrmm, 30 min until meeting? | 20:31 |
| kirkland | zyx386: personally, I use a2hosting.com. They do have Ubuntu VPS options: http://www.a2hosting.com/vps_hosting.php | 20:31 |
| sommer | hey all, is the statement regarding apt-get dist-upgrade correct: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/apt-get.html | 20:43 |
| sommer | with regards to upgrading packages? | 20:44 |
| sommer | wait never mind I'm just reading the lead in wrong I think | 20:44 |
| mathiaz | sommer: the statement about upgrading from one release to another should be removed | 20:50 |
| mathiaz | sommer: do-release-upgrade should be used instead of dist-upgrade | 20:50 |
| sommer | mathiaz: ya, I removed the second few paragraphs... as was reading the first one, and it started to not make sense :-) | 20:51 |
| sommer | mathiaz: it's replaced with a link to the upgrading section under installation | 20:51 |
| ScottK | It's true that's the supported way, but I've never had a problem with apt-get dist-upgrade on servers. | 20:51 |
| mathiaz | sommer: dist-upgrading from dapper to hardy won't work as dapper's dpkg doesn't understant the new Breaks: field available in hardy | 20:51 |
| sommer | mathiaz: yep, we should be covered | 20:52 |
| zul | anyone seen ivoks recenlty? | 21:03 |
| sommer | zul: today he replied to an email a sent him last week, he's been sick for the last 10 days | 21:03 |
| zul | ah ok thats unfortunate | 21:03 |
| sommer | ya, sounded pretty bad | 21:04 |
| ScottK | mathiaz: Since you uploaded cyrus-sasl2, cyrus-sasl2-heimdal needs to be updated too or it's broken. | 21:27 |
| engida | just did a 6.06 server install and am wanting to add 2 new users to the admin group. I have looked at adduser and useradd, was wondering if there was a command to list current users/grous | 21:42 |
| sommer | engida: cat /etc/group and cat /etc/passwd will accomplisth that :-) | 21:43 |
| faulkes- | cat /etc/group | grep <username> | 21:44 |
| engida | which command is better to just create a normal user that belongs to an admin group (or a sudoer), useradd or adduser? | 21:44 |
| sommer | engida: I think adduser is pretty simple: adduser username groupname | 21:45 |
| sommer | but really whatever works for you is the "correct" way | 21:45 |
| engida | but I don't want the new user to have a home directory... just a shell and being able to sudo... | 21:45 |
| sommer | engida: for that you'll want to check the options for useradd, then you can always go back and run adduser | 21:47 |
| sommer | at least that's what I'd do | 21:47 |
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| mathiaz | ScottK: I haven't uploaded cyrus-sasl2 yet | 21:57 |
| ScottK | Hmmm | 21:57 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: kirkland and I still have to complete the merge IIRC | 21:57 |
| ScottK | OK | 21:57 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: someone else uploaded it ? | 21:57 |
| ScottK | No. slangasek uploaded another Ubuntu revision. | 21:58 |
| ScottK | So you'll need to update your merge, but the -18 merge isn't done | 21:58 |
| ScottK | When you do, please include an update of cyrus-sasl2-heimdal (in Universe) so it won't be broken. | 21:59 |
| engida | sommer: Is it possible for the new user to belong to the admin group and still have its own password to be identified by? | 21:59 |
| engida | I envoked the -p argument in useradd and was not promted for a password when creating a new user | 22:00 |
| sommer | engida: sure, you just need to set it using passwd | 22:00 |
| sommer | engida: I think the -p argument expects the password to be part of the command | 22:01 |
| sommer | or standard input | 22:01 |
| engida | hmm.. so a <sudo passwd username "newpass"> should do the trick? | 22:01 |
| sommer | engida: should | 22:02 |
| engida | Thnks :) | 22:02 |
| sommer | np | 22:02 |
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| mathiaz | ScottK: ok | 22:02 |
| ScottK | mathiaz: Thanks. | 22:02 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: do you want to set aside some time this week to finish that cyrus-sasl import? | 22:05 |
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| kirkland | mathiaz: or, if you want to just do that one yourself, that's okay by me--it looked more complicated than a run-of-the-mill import | 22:06 |
| kirkland | s/import/merge/g | 22:06 |
| ScottK | It can't be uploaded until after the alpha 6 freeze is over, so you have some time. | 22:08 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I think it's good example of a merge. | 22:08 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: even though it includes more work, you get a good intro to the merge process. | 22:09 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: we could actually upload it as it is, but we've started to clean up the packaging a little bit. | 22:09 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: so I think we should keep working on it - get the merge ready and once the archive is opened, I'll upload it. | 22:10 |
| keescook | soren, zul: can you look this over, and let me know which of xen-3.[012], qemu, kvm need updated? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433560 | 22:16 |
| ubotu | Red Hat bug 433560 in vulnerability "CVE-2008-0928 Qemu insufficient block device address range checking" [Medium,New: ] | 22:16 |
| soren | keescook: All of them, probably. | 22:17 |
| keescook | soren: that's what I suspected. :P | 22:17 |
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| soren | keescook: Don't use Ian's patch, but I assume you noticed that? | 22:19 |
| keescook | soren: yea, saw comment 22 there. | 22:20 |
| soren | keescook: Right. I'll grab it for hardy kvm. | 22:20 |
| keescook | I'm hoping to get a "blessed" patch from either upstream or you/zul :) | 22:20 |
| soren | keescook: Er.. How high priority is this? Can you wait until tomorrow. I want to talk to Dan. | 22:24 |
| === Go0f is now known as Apollo9 | ||
| keescook | soren: it's "fix soon" in my book, but needs to be "fix right" due to the invasiveness of the patch, so I'm happy to get additional confirmation. | 22:29 |
| soren | keescook: There's one of the cases that looks wrong in his updated patch, and I just want to check with him which one of us is on crack :) | 22:30 |
| soren | keescook: None of this is in main, is it? | 22:30 |
| soren | keescook: Apart from kvm in hardy, that is.. | 22:30 |
| keescook | soren: xen? | 22:41 |
| soren | keescook: In main? Really? | 22:41 |
| * keescook remains unclear | 22:41 | |
| soren | libxen, perhaps, but not xen. | 22:41 |
| soren | I hope. | 22:41 |
| zul | libxen is not affected but xen-utils is affected | 22:59 |
| soren | zul: xen-utils? Hm. Interesting. | 23:14 |
| rhineheart_m | hello! How to configure http://www.example.com/tick to be accessible thru http://www.tickl.example.com? | 23:17 |
| kirkland | rhineheart_m: in your sites-enabled apache conf file: | 23:19 |
| kirkland | <VirtualHost *:80> | 23:19 |
| kirkland | ServerName www.tickl.example.com | 23:19 |
| kirkland | DocumentRoot /var/www/html/tick | 23:19 |
| kirkland | </VirtualHost> | 23:19 |
| rhineheart_m | kirkland: thanks for that. How about hosting multiple sites with each domain? | 23:21 |
| kirkland | rhineheart_m: you can put as many of those <VirtualHost> sections as you want in there | 23:22 |
| rhineheart_m | you mean? all I have to do is to confgure external nameserver like www.tickl.example.com to point to my IP? | 23:24 |
| kirkland | rhineheart_m: yes | 23:26 |
| ScottK | lamont: I'm reading this http://ressukka.net/blog/posts/20070909_postfix_defaults/ and thinking default subdomain matching for relay'ed domains is probably not the best plan. | 23:26 |
| rhineheart_m | kirkland: where can I find the sites-enabled apache conf? | 23:28 |
| kirkland | rhineheart_m: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/* | 23:29 |
| rhineheart_m | kirkland: I have only two available files there.. 000-default and squirrelmail | 23:31 |
| kirkland | rhineheart_m: you want 000-default then | 23:32 |
| mathiaz | rhineheart_m: you'd better create one file in /etc/apache2/site-available/ for each virtual hosts | 23:32 |
| kirkland | rhineheart_m: and then symlink them into sites-enabled/ | 23:33 |
| rhineheart_m | mathiaz: what do you mean with that? | 23:33 |
| mathiaz | rhineheart_m: and then use the command a2ensite to enable the sites | 23:33 |
| mathiaz | rhineheart_m: the code that kirkland posted above - put in a file in /etc/apache2/site-available/ | 23:34 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: right - I think it's just the standard way to do it. | 23:34 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: but you should edit your files in /etc/apache2/site-available/ | 23:34 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: site-enabled is just a directory with symlinks. | 23:35 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: ;-) | 23:35 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: agreed. | 23:35 |
| rhineheart_m | the two of you! great job! how to create symlinks by the way? | 23:35 |
| lamont | ScottK: reading | 23:35 |
| mathiaz | rhineheart_m: use a2ensite | 23:35 |
| mathiaz | rhineheart_m: there is a manual page for a2ensite that explains what it does | 23:36 |
| mathiaz | rhineheart_m: you don't need to know about symlinks. | 23:36 |
| ScottK | Actually I'm not sure I like default subdomain matching at all. | 23:36 |
| rhineheart_m | ScottK: You made me thinking deep? Please say something.. | 23:37 |
| ScottK | rhineheart_m: I'm talking to lamont about a postfix thing. | 23:37 |
| ScottK | Sorry it sounded like your topic. | 23:38 |
| * ScottK knows very little about web servers and tends to ignore talk about them. | 23:38 | |
| rhineheart_m | NP. Thanks for letting me know.. | 23:38 |
| lamont | ScottK: yeah. it's a ponder thing, for sure. | 23:38 |
| lamont | ScottK: and nfc how the 2.4.5 backport built, either. | 23:39 |
| ScottK | lamont: Accepting mail for some domain I don't explicitly list seems so Postfix 1.0 | 23:39 |
| lamont | and yet my mail server _wants_ that behavior (iz many hosts it takes mail for) | 23:40 |
| ScottK | lamont: I'm pretty sure the whole Main/Universe thing is supposed to be ignored for backports. It's really a non-sequitor. | 23:40 |
| lamont | ah, that could be it | 23:41 |
| ScottK | And jdong told me that he thought that got fixed a year ago. I think someone 'improved' the system. | 23:41 |
| lamont | yeah - quite possible that a recent rollout regressed it... you should file a bug against launchpad | 23:41 |
| ScottK | lamont: I have a strict policy against filing or looking at bugs against launchpad. It just hurts my blood pressure. I'm heckling jdong into doing it. | 23:42 |
| lamont | ScottK: fish in a barrel. | 23:43 |
| ScottK | It's just such a freaking amateur hour project combined with extreme hubris that it drives me nuts. | 23:44 |
| rhineheart_m | mathiaz, kirkland: got an idea how to enable https in squirrelmail? | 23:45 |
| ScottK | My favorite recent example was being told I'd have to give up my opinion that the pre-beta U/I was better if I wanted my complaints to be taken seriously. | 23:45 |
| ScottK | So I've given up on making complaints. | 23:46 |
| mathiaz | rhineheart_m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/server/apache2/SSL | 23:47 |
| lamont | ScottK: generally, I find that it's getting better, and that it does what I need. | 23:53 |
| ScottK | lamont: There are things that are getting better. I find that as the system is growing more complex the U/I is getting more confusing and it's getting harder to find stuff. | 23:54 |
| ScottK | The amateurish part is I think they put way to much into implementation and not enough into design and testing. | 23:54 |
| ScottK | In the most recent release they made a change to have PPA uploads start building immediately before publisher runs. | 23:55 |
| ScottK | What they failed to notice in design, implementation, or testing is that before publisher runs on an empty ppa there is no releases file. | 23:55 |
| ScottK | Soyuz will barf when it tries to upload the binaries. | 23:55 |
| ScottK | Pretty basic thing I'd say. | 23:56 |
| ScottK | It's currently marked low and the only developer comment I saw was something along the lines of ooh - let's call this the builds to fast bug. | 23:56 |
| ScottK | I just barely restrained myself from a really sarcastic comment and that was the last LP bug I looked at. | 23:57 |
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